The Great America Show - February 01, 2022


CHANG:BIDEN BLIND ON CHINA - VAUGHN:OPEN BORDER BIDEN’S FAULT


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

140.55318

Word Count

8,561

Sentence Count

425

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs and Gordon Chang. President Xi Jinping is at it again, trying to intimidate the world while his own country is threatened by another wave of perhaps two variants of the Wuhan Coronavirus he unleashed on an unsuspecting world.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.440 Hello, everybody. Wonderful to have you with us for this edition of the Great America Show.
00:00:19.160 We're still growing this little acorn by leaps and bounds thanks to you.
00:00:23.900 We appreciate your support and sharing part of your day with us as together we fight for truth and justice in the American way.
00:00:32.600 Please be sure to tell your family and friends about us, about the Great America Show, and please listen in.
00:00:38.820 We call the show the Great America Show because that's exactly what America is.
00:00:43.960 We're proud of this great country, and we say so without apology to anyone, to President Biden, to Dr. Fauci, or whomever.
00:00:52.380 And we're here to make sure all who would drag us down fail, and all who are in uniform, who work so hard,
00:01:00.000 who put their lives on the line to keep this land free and our nation great,
00:01:04.900 all have our support and whatever it takes to succeed in keeping this republic of ours vibrant and vigorous and God-willing in perpetuity.
00:01:14.400 And yes, we're dedicated to those working men and women, those small business people in this country,
00:01:19.660 who are the very heart of the nation, our middle class, and all who aspire to it.
00:01:25.280 God bless you, and God bless this great country of ours.
00:01:29.380 Now, you might be getting the impression I'm a little fired up today, and you would be right.
00:01:34.020 And my guess is you'll understand why when we take up some of the events that are taking place,
00:01:38.940 some of the issues facing the country right now,
00:01:41.820 and this hapless, heartless aggregation of leftists who mean to reshape the country,
00:01:47.820 to remove our rights as citizens, to crush Christianity,
00:01:51.340 while destroying the American family, our capitalist system,
00:01:55.740 that brought prosperity to not only hundreds of millions of Americans,
00:01:59.560 but to people all around the world.
00:02:02.340 And now, to the matters at hand.
00:02:04.620 Communist China's President Xi is at it again,
00:02:08.160 trying to intimidate the world,
00:02:10.740 while his own country is threatened by another wave of perhaps two variants
00:02:14.960 of the Wuhan coronavirus he unleashed on an unsuspecting world.
00:02:21.180 This is the Beijing Winter Olympics approach.
00:02:23.880 President Xi telling the West,
00:02:25.820 do not engage in a cold war with all-powerful communist China.
00:02:30.160 He did everything but tell President Biden to bow down
00:02:34.440 when he hears the words President Xi spoken.
00:02:39.380 Joining us now is one of America's foremost experts on China,
00:02:43.160 indeed on global security and geopolitics,
00:02:46.000 and a great American, our good friend, Gordon Chang.
00:02:50.040 Gordon, great to have you with us.
00:02:52.160 Well, thank you so much, Lou.
00:02:54.480 Let's start with President Xi,
00:02:56.840 deciding it was time for him to tell the world not to even think about a cold war,
00:03:01.740 much less a hot one,
00:03:04.680 with the all-powerful communist Chinese People's Liberation Army at hand.
00:03:12.580 What do you make of it?
00:03:14.120 Your thoughts.
00:03:15.620 Yeah, when Xi Jinping talked to Davos,
00:03:18.620 which he has a habit of doing,
00:03:20.520 he always has these 30,000-foot generalities
00:03:23.640 about how the world needs to come together,
00:03:26.320 how everyone needs to cooperate,
00:03:28.400 how we shouldn't have trade wars,
00:03:30.160 how we shouldn't do this,
00:03:31.580 how we shouldn't do that.
00:03:32.860 And that's exactly what we heard a couple days ago.
00:03:36.000 But I think that even Davos is starting to get a little tired of that
00:03:40.160 because the reality is very different.
00:03:42.580 Just to give you an example,
00:03:44.320 while China was ravaged by at least two variants,
00:03:49.560 the Omicron and the Delta,
00:03:50.840 and maybe a new one,
00:03:52.720 what they were trying to do, Lou,
00:03:54.300 was to say,
00:03:55.000 well, look,
00:03:55.640 this Omicron came from Canada on the surface of an envelope,
00:03:58.780 and so therefore don't buy foreign products anymore.
00:04:01.980 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:04:03.520 I've got to say here,
00:04:04.700 if I may interrupt you,
00:04:05.920 I apologize.
00:04:07.180 But I mean,
00:04:07.860 that's so ludicrous and so stupid
00:04:10.520 that it's unbecoming President Xi.
00:04:14.580 It's unbecoming anyone who gives a damn about truth.
00:04:18.600 How dare he?
00:04:20.040 And isn't his country,
00:04:23.000 those who know about it,
00:04:24.640 embarrassed by such a proclamation?
00:04:26.360 You know,
00:04:27.880 I think that Chinese officials below him
00:04:30.400 must be embarrassed,
00:04:32.140 but he's certainly not.
00:04:34.200 And what he's doing by saying these things
00:04:36.220 is he's expecting foreigners like Biden
00:04:38.920 to repeat them as a sign of obedience.
00:04:42.440 So, yes,
00:04:43.620 China does have all of these absurd statements
00:04:45.920 that the ruler makes,
00:04:47.520 but we're expected to not only listen,
00:04:49.920 but to follow and tremble and obey.
00:04:52.200 My gosh.
00:04:54.180 And what's, of course,
00:04:56.160 disconcerting is we don't have a good read
00:04:58.880 on Biden's,
00:05:01.240 we know something about his state of mind,
00:05:03.220 and it's not either good or pleasant.
00:05:05.940 But we don't know what he's thinking about China,
00:05:09.300 what he's agreed to,
00:05:10.360 and what he's not,
00:05:11.680 if anything.
00:05:12.300 So he is really,
00:05:15.380 it's an incredible thing to say,
00:05:17.760 he's an unknown quantity
00:05:19.280 as we are faced
00:05:20.500 with these national security threats
00:05:22.800 from Beijing.
00:05:24.000 Yeah.
00:05:24.720 One thing that we do know
00:05:26.360 in terms of broad outline
00:05:28.080 is that Biden does not consider China
00:05:30.600 to be America's number one
00:05:32.340 national security threat.
00:05:34.160 He believes that climate change is.
00:05:36.980 But climate change hasn't killed
00:05:38.780 855,000 Americans
00:05:40.820 in the last couple of years.
00:05:42.540 But the virus did.
00:05:44.260 And we know, Liu,
00:05:45.560 that this virus probably came
00:05:47.500 from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:05:49.840 We know that, let's say, 95%.
00:05:51.680 But there's something 100% we do know,
00:05:55.240 and that is Xi Jinping made decisions
00:05:57.620 to spread this disease
00:05:59.380 beyond China's borders
00:06:00.800 once it got out into the Chinese public.
00:06:03.900 They lied about transmissibility.
00:06:05.960 And while they were locking down
00:06:07.240 their own country,
00:06:08.220 they were trying to force other countries
00:06:10.240 to take arrivals from China
00:06:11.580 without travel restrictions
00:06:12.880 or quarantines.
00:06:14.220 You put just those two things together,
00:06:16.400 and there are more.
00:06:17.240 But just those two things together,
00:06:18.740 it shows that they wanted
00:06:20.280 to spread this disease.
00:06:21.740 This is the first time in history
00:06:23.300 that one nation has attacked
00:06:24.820 all the others.
00:06:26.560 Yeah, it's really true.
00:06:28.400 And as I said at the time,
00:06:30.100 and you know this,
00:06:31.840 in early 2020,
00:06:34.920 I said this is the moral equivalent
00:06:36.820 of murder
00:06:38.740 to allow this virus
00:06:41.800 to be spread across the world
00:06:45.260 without a warning
00:06:46.700 when they knew precisely
00:06:48.160 what they were doing
00:06:49.080 and the impact of it
00:06:51.280 and the lethality of that virus.
00:06:54.900 You're absolutely right.
00:06:56.080 This is murder.
00:06:57.120 So 5.5 million people
00:06:59.640 around the world,
00:07:00.760 outside China,
00:07:01.520 who died from this disease,
00:07:03.780 we should consider
00:07:04.520 each one of those
00:07:05.760 a murder.
00:07:07.720 No question about it.
00:07:09.380 And we also should consider
00:07:11.840 what in the world
00:07:13.360 is to be done
00:07:14.760 if there are now,
00:07:17.460 as it appears there will be,
00:07:19.460 subsequent waves
00:07:20.620 that look like
00:07:22.440 they're going to,
00:07:23.480 if they do not
00:07:24.700 appear first in Europe,
00:07:28.060 it appears
00:07:29.060 that they're going
00:07:29.840 to be present
00:07:31.240 in China
00:07:32.140 just as the Beijing
00:07:33.720 so-called winter games
00:07:35.540 begin.
00:07:36.900 This has got to be
00:07:37.860 a nightmare
00:07:38.360 for President Xi,
00:07:40.220 for the Communist Party,
00:07:41.580 and for China itself.
00:07:44.880 Yes.
00:07:45.260 I mean,
00:07:45.640 in Beijing,
00:07:46.760 they're reporting
00:07:47.360 Omicron cases.
00:07:48.760 But some people
00:07:49.600 are saying,
00:07:50.080 that this is
00:07:51.480 a new variant,
00:07:53.180 one that has
00:07:53.820 yet to be identified.
00:07:55.660 And we don't know
00:07:56.600 its virulence,
00:07:57.340 and we don't know
00:07:58.080 its transmissibility.
00:07:59.740 Now,
00:08:00.140 these reports
00:08:01.040 are unconfirmed,
00:08:02.780 but the point is
00:08:03.660 that China
00:08:04.120 is not cooperating
00:08:05.340 with the United States,
00:08:06.700 with the World Health Organization.
00:08:08.280 It's not cooperating
00:08:09.180 with anybody
00:08:10.040 in trying to get
00:08:11.360 to the bottom
00:08:11.940 of what's occurring
00:08:12.820 in Beijing.
00:08:13.660 So we have
00:08:14.260 all these athletes,
00:08:15.520 reporters,
00:08:16.660 journalists,
00:08:17.700 officials,
00:08:18.560 all going over
00:08:19.680 to China.
00:08:20.840 And they're going
00:08:21.280 to come back
00:08:21.860 perhaps with something
00:08:22.860 even more nasty
00:08:23.900 than what we've seen
00:08:24.760 up to now.
00:08:26.500 Yeah,
00:08:26.620 and I'm really
00:08:27.360 sort of surprised
00:08:28.280 at Comcast
00:08:29.340 and NBC,
00:08:31.380 the broadcasters
00:08:33.380 of the Olympics,
00:08:35.060 that they're not
00:08:36.040 saying more
00:08:36.880 about the Uyghurs,
00:08:38.300 their captivity,
00:08:40.100 their slaughter,
00:08:41.540 their awful
00:08:43.000 human rights abuses.
00:08:45.080 Because, you know,
00:08:46.320 every time you look
00:08:47.160 at an NFL football game,
00:08:48.660 it says,
00:08:49.320 be love,
00:08:50.480 stop hate.
00:08:51.580 but there's
00:08:52.920 absolute silence,
00:08:55.040 silence from NBC
00:08:56.520 on the oppression
00:08:58.940 of the Communist Chinese
00:09:00.700 against the Uyghurs,
00:09:02.560 the concentration camps,
00:09:05.120 the abuse,
00:09:06.500 and the deaths.
00:09:07.860 Aren't you shocked
00:09:08.980 that they have not
00:09:10.080 not responded at all
00:09:13.500 to the host country's
00:09:16.320 absolute barbarism?
00:09:19.980 Yeah.
00:09:20.720 To be clear,
00:09:22.200 what China is doing
00:09:23.200 is committing
00:09:23.740 acts of genocide,
00:09:24.780 as defined in Article 2
00:09:26.760 of the Genocide Convention
00:09:27.940 of 1948,
00:09:29.180 and is engaged
00:09:30.060 in other crimes
00:09:31.140 against humanity,
00:09:31.940 which includes
00:09:33.000 the mass detentions,
00:09:34.340 the killings,
00:09:35.200 the rapes,
00:09:36.220 the forced slavery,
00:09:37.760 organ harvesting,
00:09:39.080 the imprisonment
00:09:39.820 of children.
00:09:40.920 These are atrocities,
00:09:42.320 Lou,
00:09:42.580 that are comparable
00:09:43.460 to what the Third Reich
00:09:44.640 was doing
00:09:45.200 prior to the mass
00:09:46.220 exterminations of 1941.
00:09:48.940 You know,
00:09:49.180 we always talk about
00:09:50.100 never again,
00:09:51.480 but we have
00:09:52.220 a political class
00:09:53.560 in our country
00:09:54.580 and in other countries
00:09:55.780 that are saying
00:09:56.860 we don't care.
00:09:58.440 Matter of fact,
00:09:59.320 we don't care
00:10:00.220 was what the CEO
00:10:02.260 of Social Capital
00:10:04.140 actually said,
00:10:05.640 Chamath Palihapitiya,
00:10:08.080 in that All In podcast,
00:10:10.240 where he said,
00:10:10.980 no, I don't care
00:10:11.700 what's going on
00:10:12.480 with the Uyghurs,
00:10:13.220 and then went on
00:10:14.280 to say that
00:10:15.060 human rights abuses,
00:10:16.440 quote unquote,
00:10:17.020 in the U.S.,
00:10:18.000 were comparable
00:10:18.580 to those in China
00:10:20.140 and then said
00:10:21.120 the Chinese Communist Party
00:10:22.480 was perhaps
00:10:23.380 not a dictatorship.
00:10:25.380 This is unspeakable.
00:10:29.560 I mean,
00:10:30.260 it's unspeakable
00:10:32.960 and he is part owner
00:10:34.720 of the Warriors,
00:10:36.100 the NBA Warriors,
00:10:37.480 for crying out loud,
00:10:39.180 who have been
00:10:40.800 at the forefront
00:10:41.580 of running this country down
00:10:43.460 and the disgusting
00:10:45.740 social justice warrior,
00:10:47.800 whatever they call it,
00:10:48.620 social justice war.
00:10:50.500 This is just outrageous
00:10:52.580 that the NBA
00:10:53.600 would behave like this,
00:10:55.140 have an owner
00:10:56.020 or anyone
00:10:56.880 who would sit there
00:10:57.900 and compare
00:10:59.040 the United States
00:11:00.180 and communist China.
00:11:02.580 It's sickening,
00:11:03.440 it's disgusting,
00:11:04.140 and there hasn't been
00:11:04.960 a word of protest.
00:11:06.380 And LeBron James,
00:11:07.360 I expect you
00:11:08.240 to make some statement
00:11:10.080 about this fool
00:11:11.220 and what he said
00:11:12.660 because I know
00:11:13.760 you've got to be
00:11:14.440 as upset as I am
00:11:15.700 that anyone
00:11:16.680 would demean
00:11:17.420 this country
00:11:18.160 as he did.
00:11:20.300 What do you think?
00:11:21.600 Should we expect
00:11:23.040 a strong memo
00:11:24.920 from the NBA
00:11:25.980 to their owner
00:11:28.380 of the Warriors?
00:11:30.300 Yeah.
00:11:30.860 LeBron James,
00:11:31.760 in particular,
00:11:32.300 has a lot to answer for
00:11:33.700 because,
00:11:34.880 as you point out,
00:11:35.760 Lou,
00:11:36.140 he is so easy
00:11:38.140 off the trigger
00:11:38.960 to criticize
00:11:40.200 the United States.
00:11:41.960 But he was endorsing
00:11:43.120 a product,
00:11:44.080 Nike,
00:11:44.880 that was knowingly
00:11:45.980 using essentially
00:11:47.720 slave labor
00:11:48.680 of Uyghurs,
00:11:49.940 of a racial minority.
00:11:52.100 Now,
00:11:52.340 this occurred
00:11:53.080 in Qingdao,
00:11:55.780 and it was done
00:11:56.460 through a South Korean
00:11:57.300 subcontractor.
00:11:58.200 But this subcontractor
00:11:59.140 had a long-term
00:11:59.840 relationship with Nike.
00:12:01.580 Nike was auditing
00:12:02.620 these premises,
00:12:03.580 and it was clear
00:12:04.620 just from looking at them
00:12:05.820 that this was
00:12:06.340 a concentration camp
00:12:07.380 where Uyghur women
00:12:08.540 were transported
00:12:09.440 across China
00:12:10.360 to this place
00:12:11.160 from the western part
00:12:12.400 of China
00:12:12.780 to the eastern part
00:12:14.280 of China
00:12:14.700 to work in
00:12:15.880 concentration camp-like
00:12:17.320 facilities.
00:12:18.600 So LeBron James
00:12:19.400 should talk to
00:12:20.220 the American people
00:12:20.880 about that
00:12:21.340 because he's told us
00:12:22.640 that he actually
00:12:23.540 is knowledgeable
00:12:24.320 about all these issues,
00:12:26.120 and so therefore
00:12:26.700 he has a right
00:12:27.600 to lecture us.
00:12:29.640 Well,
00:12:30.240 he has got a right
00:12:31.260 to lecture us
00:12:33.440 with false facts.
00:12:36.120 Well,
00:12:36.240 actually,
00:12:36.620 he does have the right,
00:12:38.400 but he really shouldn't
00:12:40.340 be sitting there
00:12:41.420 talking nonsense
00:12:42.320 and blathering
00:12:43.460 with all these
00:12:44.880 virtue signals
00:12:45.860 when in point of fact
00:12:47.460 what he's saying
00:12:48.180 ignores the very big reality
00:12:51.620 here that the NBA
00:12:53.720 is taking hundreds
00:12:55.360 of millions
00:12:55.980 of dollars
00:12:56.680 from China
00:12:57.420 to compromise
00:12:58.780 its principles
00:12:59.960 and, frankly,
00:13:02.840 its debts
00:13:03.480 to the United States,
00:13:06.140 its home country.
00:13:07.520 It's outrageous.
00:13:09.520 And LeBron James,
00:13:11.040 whatever his politics,
00:13:12.200 that's fine.
00:13:13.500 It's not fine
00:13:14.560 to, you know,
00:13:16.960 well, I'll put it this way.
00:13:18.520 If LeBron James,
00:13:19.820 this is the only thing
00:13:20.860 that concerns him,
00:13:22.060 then there's something
00:13:22.740 really skewed
00:13:23.780 about his moral compass
00:13:25.860 because what the Chinese
00:13:27.680 are doing
00:13:28.360 with the Uyghurs
00:13:29.660 is offensive,
00:13:31.460 it's wrong,
00:13:32.220 it's criminal,
00:13:33.320 and it's disgusting
00:13:34.420 and appalling.
00:13:35.340 And by the way,
00:13:36.420 LeBron James
00:13:37.140 is a minor item
00:13:38.160 in this
00:13:38.580 compared to
00:13:39.260 corporate America
00:13:40.020 and Wall Street.
00:13:40.920 Wall Street
00:13:41.620 that's inviting investors
00:13:43.100 to pour their capital
00:13:44.360 into China.
00:13:46.820 Corporate America,
00:13:48.120 which is,
00:13:48.560 whether it's Walmart
00:13:49.300 or Amazon,
00:13:50.780 bringing in their products
00:13:52.140 by the trillions
00:13:54.760 of dollars
00:13:55.580 to the American
00:13:59.680 consuming public.
00:14:00.820 It's just awful
00:14:01.920 to think about
00:14:02.940 the situation
00:14:03.600 that China is in.
00:14:06.020 And by the way,
00:14:06.980 we Americans
00:14:07.860 are the reason
00:14:08.940 that we are
00:14:11.200 the ones to blame
00:14:12.080 for the position
00:14:13.340 of dependence
00:14:14.060 that we put ourselves in,
00:14:15.560 this position
00:14:16.260 of supporting
00:14:17.040 a communist nation.
00:14:19.440 It's insane
00:14:20.820 that we have gotten
00:14:21.780 ourselves into
00:14:22.640 this mess.
00:14:24.500 Your thoughts?
00:14:25.580 Oh, absolutely.
00:14:26.900 Just before
00:14:27.740 talking about that,
00:14:29.180 the one thing,
00:14:29.960 though,
00:14:30.220 in the NBA,
00:14:31.300 we do have
00:14:32.060 Enos Cantor,
00:14:33.360 who on the day
00:14:33.960 he became
00:14:34.560 an American citizen
00:14:35.500 last year,
00:14:36.600 changed his name
00:14:37.360 to Enos Cantor
00:14:38.480 Freedom
00:14:38.960 because he was
00:14:40.140 so grateful
00:14:40.880 to the United States.
00:14:42.520 And he has spoken
00:14:43.360 out on these Uyghur
00:14:44.520 and other issues.
00:14:46.180 And so,
00:14:46.660 at least there is
00:14:47.560 one player
00:14:48.740 who has stood
00:14:50.020 for what's good
00:14:51.140 in this world
00:14:51.820 and has become
00:14:53.140 and proud
00:14:53.820 to be an American.
00:14:54.560 On your bigger
00:14:56.420 point,
00:14:57.000 Lou.
00:14:57.120 In his Cantor
00:14:58.440 Freedom,
00:14:59.660 it's incredible
00:15:00.880 that he
00:15:02.140 has this kind
00:15:03.800 of courage
00:15:04.360 and he is
00:15:05.100 to be respected
00:15:06.040 mightily
00:15:06.620 by all of us
00:15:07.400 for what he's done
00:15:08.160 and we owe him
00:15:08.940 a great debt
00:15:09.480 of gratitude.
00:15:10.760 But his courage
00:15:12.520 speaks to the cowardice
00:15:14.620 of the NBA
00:15:15.420 and its craven greed
00:15:17.500 to put money
00:15:18.900 ahead of principle
00:15:20.120 and the interest
00:15:21.340 of the nation.
00:15:22.880 It's awful
00:15:23.940 and the NBA
00:15:25.080 should be excoriated
00:15:26.640 on Capitol Hill
00:15:28.020 for what it's doing.
00:15:29.980 The problem there
00:15:31.020 is, of course,
00:15:31.780 the radical Dems,
00:15:33.180 the lost left
00:15:34.960 in this country
00:15:35.740 is aligned
00:15:37.300 more with China
00:15:38.440 than it is
00:15:39.220 with American principles.
00:15:41.100 And that is,
00:15:42.220 of course,
00:15:42.900 not only dangerous
00:15:43.780 but disgustingly so.
00:15:46.120 When you talk
00:15:46.860 about Wall Street,
00:15:47.960 corporate boards,
00:15:49.460 Walmart and Amazon,
00:15:50.480 as you pointed out,
00:15:51.860 they do see
00:15:53.120 their interests
00:15:53.880 more closely aligned
00:15:55.420 with the elite
00:15:56.340 in communist China
00:15:57.500 than they do
00:15:58.120 with their fellow Americans.
00:15:59.840 And we know this
00:16:00.740 because of what they do.
00:16:02.300 The shipping of jobs
00:16:03.660 by the tens of millions
00:16:05.140 over to China,
00:16:06.180 which has meant
00:16:07.040 the impoverishment
00:16:07.900 of Americans,
00:16:09.080 which has meant despair,
00:16:10.640 which has meant
00:16:11.160 drug addiction,
00:16:12.400 which has meant
00:16:12.900 the destruction
00:16:13.520 of communities
00:16:14.620 and the small businesses
00:16:16.080 that you talk about.
00:16:17.640 This is critical.
00:16:19.320 And in this coronavirus epidemic
00:16:21.780 that China flew,
00:16:23.500 we have seen,
00:16:24.640 because of economic forces,
00:16:26.920 small businesses
00:16:27.740 in the U.S. fail.
00:16:29.680 And they've failed
00:16:30.540 because we have
00:16:32.340 the likes of Amazon
00:16:33.320 being able to take advantage
00:16:35.100 of the situation.
00:16:36.420 So you have Amazon,
00:16:37.640 you've got Walmarts,
00:16:38.700 but you don't have
00:16:39.780 those family businesses
00:16:40.980 that built America.
00:16:44.080 It's true.
00:16:44.620 And by the way,
00:16:46.300 just an article
00:16:47.300 came out
00:16:48.060 from a former
00:16:48.740 executive director
00:16:52.520 of the Black Caucus,
00:16:55.000 Congressional Black Caucus,
00:16:56.540 talking about
00:16:57.720 illegal immigration
00:16:58.940 has crushed
00:17:00.100 Black Americans
00:17:02.140 and their job prospects
00:17:03.480 and wage prospects
00:17:04.700 over the course
00:17:06.060 of the last 30 years
00:17:07.500 because that illegal labor
00:17:09.520 has diminished wages,
00:17:11.960 diminished benefits,
00:17:13.280 and economic opportunity,
00:17:16.000 whether it be
00:17:16.540 in the creation
00:17:17.300 of a small business
00:17:18.360 or large,
00:17:19.520 for Black Americans
00:17:21.520 who otherwise
00:17:22.820 would have had
00:17:23.420 that opportunity,
00:17:24.480 those wages,
00:17:25.360 those higher wages,
00:17:26.520 and wealth.
00:17:28.420 And now,
00:17:29.000 there's a greater disparity
00:17:30.380 in income
00:17:32.860 and net worth
00:17:34.460 in this country
00:17:35.140 than would otherwise
00:17:37.600 have been the case.
00:17:38.440 And I've been talking
00:17:40.040 about this,
00:17:40.500 as you know,
00:17:40.920 for 30-some-odd years.
00:17:42.960 And finally,
00:17:43.960 some people
00:17:44.500 are starting to listen,
00:17:45.680 but it's sure
00:17:46.220 taken a lot of pain
00:17:47.600 and economic loss
00:17:49.440 for them
00:17:49.860 to appreciate
00:17:50.700 the reality
00:17:51.520 of what I was saying
00:17:52.780 30 years ago.
00:17:54.500 Yeah.
00:17:55.420 Those Americans
00:17:56.260 who are most against
00:17:57.740 this open border policy
00:17:59.260 of the Biden administration
00:18:00.300 are the poorest Americans
00:18:02.800 for the reasons
00:18:03.660 that you point out.
00:18:04.560 But, you know,
00:18:05.720 we have another couple
00:18:06.840 of critical vulnerabilities.
00:18:10.920 We have fentanyl
00:18:12.000 from China
00:18:12.700 coming across
00:18:13.480 our southern border
00:18:14.260 in record quantities.
00:18:16.160 And a country
00:18:17.560 that can't defend
00:18:18.480 its borders
00:18:19.020 doesn't have sovereignty,
00:18:20.800 as you've pointed out.
00:18:22.200 And we know
00:18:22.940 that there have been
00:18:25.200 some very disturbing cases
00:18:26.880 of people
00:18:28.240 who are wanting
00:18:30.140 to attack the U.S.
00:18:31.660 coming across
00:18:32.440 that southern border
00:18:33.500 in recent months.
00:18:35.240 So this is going
00:18:36.360 to be a terrorism issue,
00:18:37.920 especially as the Iranians
00:18:39.520 and others
00:18:40.220 take advantage
00:18:41.180 of this open
00:18:42.600 southern border.
00:18:44.760 And speaking
00:18:45.560 of the Iranians,
00:18:47.080 we're in another mess
00:18:50.500 because there is
00:18:52.560 no doubt whatsoever
00:18:53.700 that they are proceeding
00:18:54.960 quickly and profoundly
00:18:57.800 with their uranium
00:18:58.920 enrichment program,
00:19:00.080 which is to weapons grade.
00:19:01.740 we also know
00:19:03.480 that they are aligned
00:19:05.000 with communist China.
00:19:08.340 And that is being felt,
00:19:10.080 that new and stronger bond
00:19:12.580 between those two countries
00:19:13.920 is being felt strongly,
00:19:16.240 whether it be
00:19:16.840 Southeast Asia,
00:19:19.220 whether it be
00:19:20.060 the Middle East,
00:19:21.540 whether it, in fact,
00:19:22.940 be the Western Hemisphere.
00:19:26.640 Yes.
00:19:28.620 And in the last three
00:19:29.480 or four days,
00:19:30.160 the Iranian foreign minister
00:19:31.280 has actually went to Beijing
00:19:32.620 because they're talking
00:19:33.960 about their strategic
00:19:34.880 partnership deal,
00:19:35.940 which has been in existence
00:19:37.180 for a couple of years,
00:19:38.100 but was announced
00:19:38.820 only last year.
00:19:39.800 This is the deal
00:19:41.420 where China will invest
00:19:42.800 somewhere upwards
00:19:44.080 of $400 billion,
00:19:45.900 maybe a little bit less.
00:19:47.300 But also,
00:19:48.340 this involves
00:19:49.520 Chinese purchases
00:19:50.780 of Iranian oil and gas
00:19:52.840 in violation
00:19:53.760 of UN sanctions,
00:19:55.340 as well as,
00:19:56.260 I'm sure,
00:19:56.840 military cooperation,
00:19:58.280 some of which
00:19:58.740 has been announced.
00:20:00.020 Other parts of that
00:20:00.760 military cooperation,
00:20:01.900 I'm sure,
00:20:02.340 have been kept secret.
00:20:03.560 We know that
00:20:04.600 over the course of decades,
00:20:06.360 China has directed
00:20:07.900 its nuclear weapons
00:20:10.160 technology
00:20:10.820 to the Iranians
00:20:12.320 through the Pakistan
00:20:13.600 Black Market Network
00:20:15.220 of AQ Khan,
00:20:16.140 which Beijing supported.
00:20:18.180 When we look at
00:20:19.100 the Iranian nuclear weapons
00:20:20.480 program,
00:20:21.280 it really has been
00:20:22.720 aided substantially
00:20:23.980 by Beijing.
00:20:26.040 Right.
00:20:26.480 And we know
00:20:28.120 that that relationship
00:20:29.620 is likely to get
00:20:32.000 only stronger
00:20:33.280 and more difficult
00:20:34.180 for the United States
00:20:35.400 and for Europe
00:20:36.440 to contend with.
00:20:38.980 We also know
00:20:40.080 that if President Biden
00:20:41.760 talking about
00:20:42.920 climate change
00:20:44.980 is the great
00:20:46.180 national security issue,
00:20:48.260 yet he still ignores China
00:20:50.240 even on that level
00:20:51.460 because he's not saying
00:20:53.620 anything about
00:20:54.460 China's coal production
00:20:55.700 that's at record levels
00:20:57.140 as they try to
00:20:58.560 avoid an energy crisis
00:21:00.940 in their country
00:21:01.860 if they possibly can
00:21:03.680 by burning ever more coal.
00:21:05.700 And yet there's
00:21:07.080 no protest
00:21:07.840 from the organizations,
00:21:10.180 climate change organizations,
00:21:12.140 climate crisis
00:21:15.320 countries that are
00:21:17.280 focused on this mightily.
00:21:19.120 There's not a word,
00:21:20.540 not a peep from them
00:21:21.680 about what China
00:21:22.940 is doing
00:21:23.440 to their environment
00:21:24.380 and to the world's.
00:21:26.020 The last couple days,
00:21:27.580 Lou,
00:21:27.780 we learned that
00:21:28.800 China's coal output
00:21:30.100 for 2021
00:21:31.100 was up 4.7%
00:21:33.560 over the previous year.
00:21:35.500 And when we talk
00:21:36.440 about climate change,
00:21:37.980 if one says,
00:21:39.420 as Biden does,
00:21:40.460 that climate change
00:21:41.220 is the number one
00:21:41.940 national security threat,
00:21:43.420 then what he should be doing
00:21:45.540 is bringing our factories
00:21:47.440 back to this side
00:21:48.940 of the Pacific
00:21:49.520 because the transportation
00:21:51.880 of materials
00:21:53.040 to Asia
00:21:54.520 and the transportation
00:21:56.600 of finished products
00:21:57.640 from Asia
00:21:58.340 to the United States
00:21:59.560 accounts for
00:22:01.120 a very substantial portion
00:22:02.760 of the world's
00:22:03.800 carbon dioxide emissions.
00:22:05.720 15 of the largest
00:22:06.700 container ships,
00:22:07.540 it is often said,
00:22:08.940 pour as much carbon
00:22:09.980 into the air
00:22:10.940 as all the world's cars.
00:22:13.620 Now,
00:22:14.000 one can argue
00:22:14.720 about that statistic,
00:22:16.180 but the point is
00:22:17.180 that if you really believe
00:22:18.980 climate change
00:22:19.720 is the number one threat,
00:22:21.020 then we should be hearing
00:22:22.060 the President
00:22:22.640 of the United States
00:22:23.440 every single day
00:22:24.580 talking about
00:22:25.560 bringing our factories back.
00:22:26.780 And by the way,
00:22:27.760 that would solve
00:22:28.580 many of our
00:22:29.540 supply chain disruptions
00:22:31.540 which are now
00:22:32.200 resulting in
00:22:33.180 bare shelves
00:22:34.180 in the United States
00:22:35.260 as well as inflation.
00:22:37.120 Yeah,
00:22:37.240 and no one should forget
00:22:38.340 who's responsible for this.
00:22:39.940 It's easy to blame China
00:22:41.460 and they do
00:22:42.620 obviously deserve
00:22:45.940 part of that blame,
00:22:47.160 a large portion of it.
00:22:49.240 But it was,
00:22:50.080 after all,
00:22:50.900 U.S. multinationals,
00:22:52.580 U.S. corporate America,
00:22:54.700 U.S. Wall Street,
00:22:56.780 that decided
00:22:58.480 it'd be just a grand idea
00:22:59.960 to shift those expensive
00:23:01.380 to corporations,
00:23:03.960 middle-class jobs
00:23:05.000 from the United States
00:23:06.220 and leave millions
00:23:08.120 of Americans jobless
00:23:09.520 and put those jobs
00:23:10.560 in cheap foreign labor markets
00:23:12.480 to put our production
00:23:14.100 in cheap foreign labor markets,
00:23:16.360 cheap markets
00:23:17.540 that didn't have
00:23:18.660 environmental controls
00:23:20.880 and regulations
00:23:22.280 that had no labor
00:23:24.880 restrictions whatsoever.
00:23:26.780 So what we have,
00:23:28.480 what we sowed
00:23:30.240 30 to 40 years ago
00:23:32.400 is now paying off
00:23:33.920 in something called,
00:23:35.000 so quaintly,
00:23:36.380 supply chain disruption.
00:23:38.420 It is,
00:23:39.320 this contraption
00:23:41.400 is, frankly,
00:23:43.240 collapsing around us.
00:23:44.900 And the CEOs
00:23:46.440 of the companies,
00:23:48.040 the U.S. Chamber of Commerce,
00:23:49.240 the Business Roundtable,
00:23:50.380 the Business Lobby,
00:23:51.660 Wall Street,
00:23:52.240 all deserve
00:23:53.000 most of the blame
00:23:54.720 for everything
00:23:55.420 that this country
00:23:56.300 is experiencing
00:23:57.040 right now.
00:23:58.540 Yeah,
00:23:59.140 this is greed
00:23:59.900 over patriotism.
00:24:01.440 This is greed
00:24:02.380 over the welfare
00:24:03.120 of fellow Americans.
00:24:04.660 We absolutely
00:24:05.500 have to reverse this.
00:24:07.080 You've been talking
00:24:07.700 about this
00:24:08.260 for decades,
00:24:09.260 and now people
00:24:10.920 are listening
00:24:11.800 because it's so obvious
00:24:13.580 that everything
00:24:14.620 you said,
00:24:15.260 Lou,
00:24:15.400 about this
00:24:16.040 was 100% correct.
00:24:18.400 Well,
00:24:19.140 you know,
00:24:19.680 and there hasn't
00:24:20.260 been a moment
00:24:21.180 when I was speaking
00:24:22.980 to these issues
00:24:23.940 that I wasn't hoping
00:24:26.060 that I was wrong.
00:24:28.580 It's just,
00:24:29.560 the pain
00:24:30.540 that it's caused
00:24:31.140 this country,
00:24:31.820 the economic loss
00:24:32.840 that it's caused
00:24:34.140 this country
00:24:35.240 is deep,
00:24:36.940 it's profound,
00:24:37.840 and we hope
00:24:38.740 can be overcome
00:24:39.600 in the next,
00:24:41.080 in the next decade,
00:24:42.580 perhaps.
00:24:43.420 But we have to
00:24:44.340 turn our minds
00:24:45.100 to it.
00:24:46.220 Let's turn
00:24:47.260 to Hong Kong,
00:24:48.740 flight attendants
00:24:50.360 being blamed
00:24:51.060 for bringing
00:24:51.580 the Wuhan virus
00:24:53.660 variant
00:24:54.440 to Hong Kong
00:24:55.860 and a police
00:24:57.340 action taken.
00:24:58.660 We're watching
00:24:59.380 quite a different
00:25:00.080 Hong Kong now
00:25:01.100 that there's
00:25:01.880 no veil around it,
00:25:03.580 there is no
00:25:04.260 fiction about
00:25:05.820 two systems
00:25:06.780 now that Beijing
00:25:08.260 is in control,
00:25:09.960 right?
00:25:11.120 Absolutely.
00:25:12.440 In 1984,
00:25:13.600 China agreed
00:25:15.880 to provide,
00:25:17.080 to allow
00:25:17.620 50 years
00:25:19.160 of a high
00:25:19.680 degree of
00:25:20.200 autonomy
00:25:20.660 in Hong Kong
00:25:21.580 under the
00:25:22.520 one country,
00:25:23.080 two systems
00:25:23.540 formula.
00:25:24.020 That was to start
00:25:25.080 on July 1st,
00:25:26.000 1997,
00:25:26.660 when Britain,
00:25:28.040 as they said,
00:25:28.820 handed over
00:25:29.460 Hong Kong
00:25:30.200 to Beijing.
00:25:32.240 And with the
00:25:33.420 adoption of the
00:25:34.220 national security
00:25:34.920 law on June 30,
00:25:36.520 2020,
00:25:37.040 we have seen
00:25:38.300 Beijing
00:25:38.920 basically take
00:25:41.040 over Hong Kong
00:25:41.840 and eliminate
00:25:43.120 all forms
00:25:44.460 of autonomy.
00:25:45.500 We have seen
00:25:46.240 the jailing
00:25:46.940 of Jimmy Lai,
00:25:48.300 the founder
00:25:49.180 of Apple Daily,
00:25:50.140 which is Hong Kong's
00:25:51.000 main newspaper.
00:25:52.320 And now,
00:25:52.980 in the last couple
00:25:53.680 of weeks,
00:25:54.540 independent news
00:25:55.360 sites,
00:25:56.200 Citizen News
00:25:56.780 and Stand News
00:25:57.660 have been
00:25:58.520 shut down.
00:26:00.480 This is really
00:26:01.480 the end of Hong Kong
00:26:02.740 as we know it.
00:26:04.360 People,
00:26:05.120 both expatriates
00:26:06.860 and Hong Kong
00:26:07.840 Chinese are
00:26:09.080 leaving.
00:26:10.240 And this is
00:26:11.060 really a lesson
00:26:12.600 of the value
00:26:14.000 of the word
00:26:14.640 of Beijing.
00:26:16.040 You can't trust it.
00:26:17.620 And this is important.
00:26:18.780 It goes well
00:26:19.480 beyond Hong Kong,
00:26:20.260 as you know,
00:26:20.960 because we've got
00:26:21.620 a president
00:26:22.120 in the United States
00:26:22.900 right now
00:26:23.380 who wants a
00:26:23.900 climate change
00:26:24.440 agreement
00:26:24.860 with China.
00:26:27.360 And whatever
00:26:28.200 one thinks
00:26:28.720 of climate change,
00:26:29.860 if you want
00:26:30.600 to clean
00:26:30.940 the environment,
00:26:31.760 the last thing
00:26:32.340 you do is
00:26:32.960 you come to
00:26:33.420 an agreement
00:26:33.920 with Beijing
00:26:34.680 because Beijing
00:26:35.660 will not honor it.
00:26:36.860 as we've seen,
00:26:37.840 for instance,
00:26:38.320 with this output
00:26:39.200 in coal
00:26:39.980 up 4.7%
00:26:41.580 last year.
00:26:43.140 I think the American
00:26:43.980 people are coming
00:26:44.860 to terms.
00:26:45.520 And by the way,
00:26:46.780 when I say
00:26:47.260 American people,
00:26:48.080 I mean,
00:26:48.860 including the radical
00:26:50.580 dams,
00:26:51.140 even the lost
00:26:51.920 left in this country
00:26:53.000 is now cognizant
00:26:55.020 of the limitations
00:26:56.980 of this president
00:26:58.140 and the inadequacy
00:27:00.060 of the people
00:27:00.620 that he's brought
00:27:01.320 with him
00:27:01.860 to Washington,
00:27:03.020 D.C.,
00:27:03.620 no matter how
00:27:04.820 strongly
00:27:05.640 and compellingly
00:27:07.640 they feel
00:27:09.160 they should be
00:27:09.800 supporting him,
00:27:10.820 they understand.
00:27:12.180 And I think,
00:27:12.980 as I said,
00:27:13.680 most Americans
00:27:14.380 understand this
00:27:15.760 president has
00:27:16.980 no business
00:27:17.600 authoring any
00:27:18.500 initiative,
00:27:19.260 authoring any
00:27:19.920 legislation,
00:27:21.300 authoring any,
00:27:22.460 any significant
00:27:24.160 step on the part
00:27:26.100 of the federal
00:27:26.540 government.
00:27:27.160 He was elected
00:27:28.560 to be not,
00:27:29.660 he was not
00:27:30.280 elected with a mandate.
00:27:31.260 He was elected
00:27:32.040 with a clear
00:27:33.580 expectation
00:27:34.120 that he would
00:27:34.800 be a placeholder,
00:27:36.160 a transitional
00:27:37.200 president,
00:27:38.080 and it is time
00:27:39.300 for him to
00:27:39.960 chirp down,
00:27:41.300 not up.
00:27:42.620 It is time
00:27:43.340 for him
00:27:43.880 to take it easy
00:27:45.360 in the White House
00:27:46.180 and relax.
00:27:47.280 And it is time
00:27:48.240 for the left
00:27:48.980 and the cartel
00:27:50.340 of the far left
00:27:51.320 that controls
00:27:52.040 this presidency
00:27:52.940 to simply stand
00:27:55.200 down,
00:27:55.880 because the American
00:27:56.640 people are going
00:27:57.340 to put up with it.
00:27:58.360 More than half
00:27:59.120 the people think
00:27:59.860 that he has
00:28:01.260 his country
00:28:01.700 in the wrong
00:28:02.180 direction
00:28:02.640 on nearly every
00:28:03.620 major issue,
00:28:07.360 but nearly every
00:28:08.160 issue period
00:28:08.920 in this country.
00:28:10.260 So I don't think
00:28:11.540 we're going to see
00:28:12.320 much more from him,
00:28:13.760 nor for that matter
00:28:14.740 from Schumer
00:28:15.620 and from Pelosi,
00:28:18.060 because he is
00:28:19.320 obviously incapable
00:28:21.640 of leading the country.
00:28:23.740 This last speech
00:28:24.640 was a disgusting
00:28:26.360 assassination attempt
00:28:29.120 against conservatives
00:28:31.120 and moderates
00:28:32.140 and Republicans
00:28:33.700 and anyone
00:28:35.540 who is not
00:28:36.600 on the extreme
00:28:37.800 left of the
00:28:38.460 Democratic Party.
00:28:39.580 Your thoughts?
00:28:41.320 When I think
00:28:42.620 about Biden,
00:28:43.480 I think about
00:28:44.520 his responsibilities
00:28:45.480 to protect
00:28:46.120 the American people
00:28:47.060 from an obvious
00:28:48.800 Chinese enemy.
00:28:51.580 Biden did not
00:28:52.980 raise the issue
00:28:53.840 of the origins
00:28:54.580 of COVID-19
00:28:55.520 during his two-hour
00:28:56.660 phone call
00:28:57.380 in February
00:28:58.000 of last year
00:28:58.700 when he spoke
00:28:59.280 to Xi Jinping.
00:29:00.560 He didn't raise it
00:29:01.480 in his November
00:29:02.160 virtual meeting
00:29:02.960 with Xi Jinping.
00:29:04.160 He probably
00:29:05.200 didn't raise it
00:29:06.040 during his 90-minute
00:29:06.940 phone call
00:29:07.600 last September
00:29:08.260 with Xi Jinping.
00:29:09.720 We're talking
00:29:10.520 about the deaths
00:29:11.300 of over 850,000
00:29:13.140 Americans, Lou.
00:29:15.000 And Biden's
00:29:16.420 highest,
00:29:17.220 most solemn
00:29:18.040 responsibility
00:29:18.740 is to defend
00:29:19.860 the American people
00:29:20.880 from foreign attack.
00:29:22.580 China attacked
00:29:23.600 the American people,
00:29:24.640 took 850,000
00:29:26.840 Americans
00:29:27.560 from us
00:29:28.200 and Biden
00:29:29.120 doesn't raise
00:29:30.000 the issue
00:29:30.560 with Xi Jinping
00:29:31.700 at all.
00:29:32.380 This is a dereliction
00:29:33.420 of duty.
00:29:34.500 And for this reason
00:29:35.260 alone,
00:29:35.840 plus the other reasons
00:29:36.880 that you talk about,
00:29:38.160 but for this reason
00:29:39.140 alone,
00:29:40.140 he should not
00:29:41.200 be president
00:29:41.780 of the United States.
00:29:42.680 If he doesn't
00:29:43.020 want to defend us,
00:29:43.840 that's fine.
00:29:44.840 But he should
00:29:45.420 make sure
00:29:46.000 that he's not
00:29:46.980 inhibiting
00:29:47.740 us from
00:29:50.180 protecting ourselves.
00:29:51.120 The weakness
00:29:53.340 and the vulnerabilities
00:29:54.460 of the United States
00:29:56.280 right now
00:29:56.820 and its national
00:29:57.400 security team,
00:29:58.320 its commander-in-chief
00:29:59.320 are so manifest,
00:30:03.220 so obvious
00:30:04.340 to world leaders,
00:30:05.840 but particularly
00:30:06.380 to Putin,
00:30:07.560 to Xi,
00:30:08.600 that it is
00:30:09.240 a very dangerous,
00:30:11.200 difficult period
00:30:11.880 for the United States
00:30:13.000 as we try
00:30:14.540 to get through
00:30:15.200 this period
00:30:15.820 where we are
00:30:16.580 without question
00:30:17.460 leaderless.
00:30:18.600 We are
00:30:19.280 without question
00:30:20.380 in an extremely,
00:30:22.800 extremely
00:30:23.460 dangerous position.
00:30:25.900 We always conclude,
00:30:28.040 as you know,
00:30:28.660 Gordon,
00:30:29.060 with our guest's
00:30:31.000 final word.
00:30:32.180 You get the final word
00:30:33.100 always on this show.
00:30:34.820 We appreciate
00:30:35.700 you being with us.
00:30:36.740 Your thoughts?
00:30:38.940 Lou,
00:30:39.980 China declared
00:30:41.020 a people's war,
00:30:42.020 quote-unquote,
00:30:42.660 on the U.S.
00:30:43.400 in May 2019,
00:30:44.600 and we have
00:30:46.000 a political establishment,
00:30:47.720 which is
00:30:48.260 Wall Street,
00:30:49.300 the corporate boards,
00:30:50.380 and Washington,
00:30:53.500 which doesn't
00:30:54.840 understand the
00:30:55.520 maliciousness
00:30:56.220 of the regime.
00:30:57.680 You,
00:30:58.180 from the very beginning,
00:30:59.280 have talked about
00:31:00.280 China in blunt terms.
00:31:02.560 You were the one,
00:31:03.340 you were the only one
00:31:04.520 talking about
00:31:05.320 red China,
00:31:06.460 and now
00:31:07.520 the American people
00:31:08.780 are coming around.
00:31:10.520 But, you know,
00:31:11.160 Lou,
00:31:11.580 we are at risk.
00:31:13.140 We are a far
00:31:13.820 stronger country
00:31:14.560 than China,
00:31:15.240 but if we don't
00:31:16.040 defend ourselves,
00:31:16.960 we are going to
00:31:17.980 lose our republic.
00:31:19.380 So, Lou,
00:31:19.840 thank you so much
00:31:20.780 for all that you've
00:31:21.860 done in protecting
00:31:23.100 our great America.
00:31:25.720 Well, Gordon,
00:31:26.340 that's kind of you,
00:31:27.260 and I thank you
00:31:28.680 for everything
00:31:29.360 that you do
00:31:30.120 for this country.
00:31:31.760 And we will
00:31:33.000 stay in the fight,
00:31:33.900 my friend.
00:31:34.560 That's all we can do.
00:31:36.260 Gordon Chang,
00:31:37.120 thanks for being with us.
00:31:38.340 We appreciate it.
00:31:39.220 Look forward
00:31:39.580 to seeing you next time.
00:31:40.800 We're still
00:31:42.440 hearing a lot
00:31:43.360 about how much
00:31:43.980 you enjoyed
00:31:44.500 our interview
00:31:45.000 with President Trump,
00:31:46.360 and I can tell you
00:31:47.720 I certainly enjoyed
00:31:48.760 it immensely.
00:31:50.080 Simply put,
00:31:51.220 Mr. Trump
00:31:51.780 is the president
00:31:52.740 who never quits
00:31:53.540 working for working
00:31:54.820 men and women
00:31:55.480 for small business
00:31:57.360 folks in this country,
00:31:58.620 and he's still
00:31:59.540 putting America first
00:32:00.780 in every way.
00:32:02.420 And man,
00:32:03.240 do I miss
00:32:04.240 our greatest president.
00:32:05.500 I know you do
00:32:06.240 as well.
00:32:07.340 Just think how differently
00:32:08.480 we'd be looking
00:32:09.340 at the world right now
00:32:10.520 were he in the White House
00:32:12.320 instead of Mr. Joe Danger.
00:32:15.160 Biden is a one-man
00:32:16.840 national security threat.
00:32:18.580 He is truly dangerous
00:32:19.980 to have in the Oval Office.
00:32:22.800 And if you haven't heard
00:32:24.060 our talk with President Trump,
00:32:25.900 just check out
00:32:26.520 our podcast list
00:32:27.660 and click on
00:32:28.820 President Trump
00:32:29.680 on Biden's blunders,
00:32:31.300 rhinos, and winning.
00:32:33.000 President Trump
00:32:33.800 left office,
00:32:34.800 as you well know,
00:32:35.880 having made huge progress
00:32:37.220 in securing
00:32:37.900 our borders,
00:32:39.160 I've often said
00:32:40.440 that no president
00:32:41.700 in four years
00:32:43.240 has done more
00:32:44.320 than President Trump.
00:32:46.580 I still believe that.
00:32:48.640 Building much
00:32:50.280 of the promised wall,
00:32:51.600 despite the fierce
00:32:52.680 and subversive opposition
00:32:54.660 of the radical Dems,
00:32:56.380 is no small achievement.
00:32:59.360 Fighting the rhinos
00:33:00.700 and his own party,
00:33:01.820 the deep state,
00:33:02.640 and the cartels,
00:33:03.540 of course.
00:33:04.020 No one likes to mention
00:33:04.980 the cartels
00:33:05.800 when we talk about
00:33:07.320 the corruption
00:33:08.840 on the border.
00:33:10.180 It is, believe me,
00:33:11.200 on both sides
00:33:12.080 of that border.
00:33:13.400 The situation
00:33:14.100 on our southern border
00:33:15.140 is quite different
00:33:16.360 after only one year
00:33:17.740 of President Biden
00:33:18.880 and his betrayal
00:33:20.340 of our national sovereignty.
00:33:22.300 Biden's complete sellout
00:33:24.120 to corporate America,
00:33:25.480 his bended knee
00:33:26.580 to the cartels
00:33:27.660 who are carrying on
00:33:29.260 their sex trafficking
00:33:30.440 and smuggling
00:33:31.280 of illegal immigrants
00:33:32.360 and deadly drugs
00:33:33.360 across that border
00:33:34.320 in never-before-seen numbers
00:33:36.760 and quantities.
00:33:38.560 Our national sovereignty
00:33:39.780 obviously means nothing
00:33:41.420 to the Biden administration
00:33:42.960 nor the safety
00:33:44.320 and security
00:33:45.300 of the American people.
00:33:48.140 Former Customs
00:33:49.520 and Border Protection
00:33:50.340 Commissioner Mark Morgan,
00:33:52.040 just to give you a sense
00:33:53.020 of how bad it is,
00:33:54.720 says three million
00:33:55.780 illegal immigrants
00:33:56.940 have tried to cross
00:33:57.940 that border
00:33:58.460 in the first year
00:34:00.160 of the Biden administration
00:34:01.780 and there has been
00:34:03.140 no sign
00:34:03.880 of any easing.
00:34:06.040 We are obviously
00:34:07.360 a nation in distress
00:34:08.760 on many fronts,
00:34:09.780 obviously, as well.
00:34:11.420 Whether it's
00:34:12.080 our open borders,
00:34:13.100 our runaway
00:34:13.600 illegal immigration,
00:34:14.900 unstoppable sex trafficking,
00:34:16.860 massive drug overdose deaths,
00:34:18.980 or runaway levels
00:34:20.380 of violent crime
00:34:21.900 in our major cities,
00:34:23.280 the border,
00:34:23.920 the border plays
00:34:25.400 a fundamental part
00:34:26.720 in it all.
00:34:27.560 To take up this crisis
00:34:29.600 we have with us today
00:34:30.900 a good friend,
00:34:33.640 an old friend,
00:34:34.460 Jessica Vaughn.
00:34:35.500 She's the Director
00:34:36.320 of Policy Studies
00:34:37.400 at the Center
00:34:38.040 for Immigration Studies.
00:34:39.900 Jessica,
00:34:40.860 great to have you with us.
00:34:42.200 Thanks for being here.
00:34:44.060 Thanks so much, Lou.
00:34:44.980 I'm delighted
00:34:45.460 to be talking with you.
00:34:47.020 You know,
00:34:47.320 as we go through
00:34:48.340 the litany
00:34:49.880 of issues
00:34:51.280 that are fundamentally
00:34:52.880 about that border
00:34:54.740 being wide open,
00:34:56.620 illegal immigration
00:34:57.540 un-checked,
00:35:00.360 not even slowed down
00:35:01.660 in point of fact.
00:35:03.360 It's really stunning
00:35:04.800 that no one wants
00:35:06.080 to think,
00:35:06.860 in my judgment,
00:35:08.160 about the corruption
00:35:09.560 that has to exist
00:35:10.700 on both sides
00:35:12.100 of that border,
00:35:13.500 in the states
00:35:14.720 that border Mexico,
00:35:16.700 and, of course,
00:35:17.760 in the northern states
00:35:18.880 of Mexico.
00:35:20.000 Your thoughts
00:35:21.480 about the current
00:35:22.380 crisis?
00:35:24.080 Well,
00:35:24.940 we have witnessed
00:35:26.160 the fastest
00:35:27.400 controlled collapse
00:35:28.580 of border security
00:35:29.440 in American history
00:35:30.980 in the 12 months
00:35:33.260 that Joe Biden
00:35:33.980 has been president,
00:35:34.740 and we're going
00:35:35.920 to be paying
00:35:36.380 the price for it
00:35:37.300 for decades to come
00:35:38.740 in so many ways.
00:35:40.620 in the resettlement
00:35:43.020 of all of these
00:35:44.220 illegal aliens
00:35:45.240 into the country,
00:35:46.500 the enormous costs
00:35:47.720 for states,
00:35:49.000 the cost
00:35:49.560 in public safety,
00:35:51.420 especially from
00:35:52.700 the million
00:35:53.940 or more
00:35:54.420 gotaways
00:35:55.080 who've come through
00:35:55.880 that we have
00:35:56.300 no idea
00:35:57.040 who they are,
00:35:58.040 whether they're
00:35:58.720 terrorists,
00:35:59.440 criminals,
00:35:59.760 or whatever,
00:36:00.500 and in the strengthening
00:36:02.440 of the
00:36:03.740 transnational
00:36:04.900 criminal enterprises
00:36:06.440 that are facilitating
00:36:08.620 and managing
00:36:09.760 and profiting
00:36:11.100 off
00:36:11.660 these Biden
00:36:13.560 policies
00:36:14.080 that have opened
00:36:14.800 up our border.
00:36:15.880 They are just
00:36:16.940 getting stronger
00:36:17.740 and stronger,
00:36:18.540 and they're going
00:36:19.620 to fight like
00:36:20.860 heck to hold
00:36:21.860 on to
00:36:22.580 this lucrative
00:36:23.940 business.
00:36:25.560 And they can...
00:36:26.300 Who is they?
00:36:26.940 I think we really
00:36:27.620 need to name names
00:36:28.640 here.
00:36:29.520 Who is the
00:36:30.520 they
00:36:31.120 that are
00:36:33.240 profiting
00:36:33.920 from these
00:36:35.320 overdose
00:36:35.780 deaths
00:36:36.820 from the
00:36:38.020 addiction
00:36:38.500 that results
00:36:39.280 from the
00:36:39.860 majority
00:36:40.480 of the
00:36:41.380 major
00:36:41.980 deadly
00:36:42.500 drugs
00:36:43.000 that
00:36:43.220 cross
00:36:43.500 that
00:36:43.740 border
00:36:44.060 every year?
00:36:45.840 Without
00:36:46.380 that border
00:36:47.180 being wide
00:36:48.220 open,
00:36:49.000 at least
00:36:49.820 the majority
00:36:50.640 of drugs
00:36:51.200 being brought
00:36:52.060 into this
00:36:52.600 country
00:36:53.000 would be
00:36:53.840 stopped.
00:36:54.920 Who is it
00:36:55.900 that's profiting?
00:36:57.420 It's the
00:36:58.400 several
00:36:59.040 transnational
00:36:59.860 cartels
00:37:00.920 that run
00:37:01.840 Mexico
00:37:02.300 and the
00:37:03.260 politicians
00:37:03.760 and a lot
00:37:04.840 of the law
00:37:05.240 enforcement
00:37:05.640 agencies
00:37:06.200 there,
00:37:06.620 whether it's
00:37:07.140 Sinaloa
00:37:07.660 or the
00:37:08.040 Gulf
00:37:08.280 cartel
00:37:08.920 or the
00:37:09.300 ones that
00:37:10.380 splinter
00:37:10.820 off,
00:37:11.280 they all
00:37:11.660 have a
00:37:12.140 piece of
00:37:12.840 the territory
00:37:13.620 that is next
00:37:14.740 to the
00:37:15.060 border and
00:37:16.400 the smugglers
00:37:17.880 have to pay
00:37:18.760 them for the
00:37:20.380 privilege to
00:37:21.340 bring people
00:37:22.060 through.
00:37:22.620 Nobody crosses
00:37:23.360 on their own.
00:37:24.120 You can't just
00:37:24.560 wake up and
00:37:25.200 say, I think
00:37:25.580 I'll walk
00:37:26.000 across the
00:37:26.480 border today.
00:37:27.320 You have to
00:37:28.140 pay a smuggler
00:37:28.960 who is paying
00:37:29.840 a cartel for
00:37:30.700 that plaza,
00:37:31.760 that territory
00:37:32.540 next to the
00:37:33.500 border.
00:37:33.780 But you
00:37:34.500 know, there
00:37:34.940 are also
00:37:35.780 people on
00:37:36.460 the U.S.
00:37:37.000 side profiting
00:37:37.760 as well.
00:37:39.100 Yes, I do
00:37:39.640 know.
00:37:40.300 Whether it's
00:37:41.740 the kids
00:37:43.140 who are
00:37:43.420 getting paid
00:37:44.080 by the
00:37:44.500 smugglers
00:37:45.020 to bring
00:37:45.600 people across
00:37:46.400 in their
00:37:46.740 cars or
00:37:47.340 transport them
00:37:48.140 on the
00:37:48.360 other side
00:37:48.760 of the
00:37:48.980 border,
00:37:49.220 or whether
00:37:49.920 it's the
00:37:50.340 NGOs
00:37:50.840 that are
00:37:51.840 getting
00:37:52.180 huge
00:37:52.940 contracts
00:37:53.680 from the
00:37:54.580 federal
00:37:54.840 government
00:37:55.420 to
00:37:56.100 transport
00:37:56.920 and
00:37:57.680 counsel
00:37:58.380 and
00:37:59.420 relocate
00:38:00.600 all of
00:38:01.080 these
00:38:01.440 illegal
00:38:01.920 border
00:38:02.260 crossers
00:38:02.880 who are
00:38:03.220 getting
00:38:03.480 resettled
00:38:04.040 into
00:38:04.320 American
00:38:04.760 communities
00:38:05.480 by the
00:38:06.940 Biden
00:38:07.220 administration.
00:38:08.240 They're paying
00:38:09.000 people, you
00:38:09.700 know, to
00:38:10.120 bring them
00:38:10.560 by planes,
00:38:11.360 trains,
00:38:11.780 automobiles,
00:38:12.740 charter bus,
00:38:14.080 you name it.
00:38:15.360 That's how
00:38:15.800 they're getting
00:38:16.560 around to
00:38:17.580 different parts
00:38:18.080 of the
00:38:18.300 country.
00:38:18.620 And you
00:38:19.700 said the
00:38:21.620 real, I
00:38:23.940 think, the
00:38:24.400 touchstone,
00:38:26.120 those NGOs
00:38:27.300 that are
00:38:28.020 operating on
00:38:29.280 both sides
00:38:29.820 of the
00:38:30.120 border under
00:38:31.340 the pretext
00:38:32.760 of being
00:38:33.460 accommodating
00:38:34.540 humane
00:38:36.040 organizations
00:38:38.260 only there
00:38:39.340 to be
00:38:39.740 helpful to
00:38:40.480 those who
00:38:41.000 might need
00:38:42.740 be troubled
00:38:44.340 or need
00:38:45.420 medical
00:38:45.780 attention,
00:38:46.340 the NGOs,
00:38:47.220 the non-government
00:38:48.600 organizations.
00:38:50.300 These NGOs
00:38:51.240 are running
00:38:52.400 what the
00:38:53.340 cartels
00:38:54.020 aren't.
00:38:54.920 Is that a
00:38:55.300 fair statement?
00:38:56.900 Well,
00:38:57.240 absolutely.
00:38:58.400 And they
00:38:59.200 are
00:38:59.820 incentivizing
00:39:01.020 the migrants
00:39:01.680 to come
00:39:02.060 take advantage
00:39:02.780 of this
00:39:03.240 criminal
00:39:03.560 infrastructure.
00:39:04.960 The UN
00:39:05.660 is paying
00:39:06.320 organizations
00:39:07.040 to hand
00:39:07.800 out cash
00:39:08.980 cards in
00:39:10.200 southern
00:39:10.920 Mexico and
00:39:11.820 northern
00:39:12.160 Mexico to
00:39:13.380 support these
00:39:14.140 migrants on
00:39:14.820 their journey.
00:39:15.580 They're
00:39:15.960 counseling
00:39:16.440 them on
00:39:17.280 how to
00:39:18.320 make a
00:39:19.860 false
00:39:20.180 asylum
00:39:20.760 claim.
00:39:21.920 They're
00:39:22.460 organizing
00:39:23.880 buses to
00:39:25.740 bring them
00:39:26.320 from southern
00:39:27.180 Mexico to
00:39:27.980 northern
00:39:28.400 Mexico.
00:39:29.640 They run
00:39:30.260 shelters in
00:39:31.400 the border
00:39:31.880 towns to
00:39:32.860 house people
00:39:33.680 until the
00:39:34.860 smuggler that
00:39:35.700 they're paying
00:39:36.240 can organize
00:39:37.440 their crossing.
00:39:38.740 They are
00:39:39.700 deeply into
00:39:41.100 this game.
00:39:43.580 And, you
00:39:43.760 know, talk
00:39:44.560 about the
00:39:46.200 morality of
00:39:46.960 all of
00:39:47.280 this.
00:39:47.560 I think
00:39:48.340 there's
00:39:48.560 nothing more
00:39:49.180 immoral than
00:39:50.140 having
00:39:50.520 policies that
00:39:51.640 enable these
00:39:53.420 criminal
00:39:53.920 organizations and
00:39:55.280 others to
00:39:55.860 make a
00:39:56.180 profit off
00:39:57.120 of people
00:39:59.120 who've been
00:40:00.240 incentivized to
00:40:02.340 come to the
00:40:02.820 border, who've
00:40:03.220 turned over
00:40:03.640 their life
00:40:04.080 savings to a
00:40:04.880 criminal
00:40:05.160 smuggling
00:40:05.560 organization to
00:40:06.600 try to get
00:40:07.180 here to take
00:40:08.340 advantage of
00:40:09.200 the Biden
00:40:09.600 policies.
00:40:10.240 That's
00:40:10.680 immoral to
00:40:11.340 have people
00:40:11.880 putting
00:40:12.680 themselves in
00:40:13.520 danger and
00:40:14.300 taking advantage
00:40:14.960 and trying to
00:40:16.480 do this, putting
00:40:16.980 their kids into
00:40:18.140 the hands of
00:40:18.820 smugglers to
00:40:19.900 come here.
00:40:20.680 Is it
00:40:21.180 immoral,
00:40:22.380 Jessica, for
00:40:23.700 the national
00:40:24.420 corporate media
00:40:25.660 to be in
00:40:27.460 complicity with
00:40:28.640 the Biden
00:40:29.120 administration,
00:40:30.140 with corporate
00:40:30.820 America that
00:40:32.220 encourages these
00:40:33.280 open border,
00:40:34.920 wide open
00:40:36.720 legal immigration?
00:40:39.780 Is it
00:40:40.300 immoral for
00:40:41.160 a national
00:40:42.140 media that
00:40:42.680 ignores the
00:40:43.640 terrific human
00:40:45.000 toll that
00:40:46.500 is paid
00:40:47.320 every day
00:40:48.200 because of
00:40:48.840 those drugs,
00:40:49.620 because of
00:40:50.500 what these
00:40:52.360 illegal immigrants
00:40:53.600 are actually
00:40:54.280 doing to
00:40:55.760 our wages
00:40:56.600 for
00:40:57.620 Americans,
00:40:58.960 hardworking
00:40:59.520 Americans,
00:41:00.280 often the
00:41:01.360 most low
00:41:02.280 paid Americans
00:41:03.700 in the labor
00:41:04.820 force?
00:41:05.840 It is
00:41:06.500 immoral for
00:41:07.560 them to take
00:41:08.240 part in this
00:41:09.060 big lie of
00:41:10.240 characterizing
00:41:11.160 this as
00:41:11.800 some kind
00:41:12.260 of a
00:41:12.600 humanitarian
00:41:13.200 crisis,
00:41:14.940 of turning
00:41:17.060 their backs
00:41:17.700 on the
00:41:18.840 Americans who
00:41:19.600 are harmed
00:41:20.120 by these
00:41:21.060 policies,
00:41:21.680 as you
00:41:22.020 said,
00:41:22.940 and
00:41:23.240 participating
00:41:24.100 in this
00:41:25.880 attempt to
00:41:28.500 dupe
00:41:29.300 Americans
00:41:29.940 into thinking
00:41:31.120 this is
00:41:31.760 something that
00:41:32.360 it isn't,
00:41:32.900 and acting
00:41:33.260 like this is
00:41:33.800 a force of
00:41:34.420 nature,
00:41:34.840 when it's
00:41:35.620 actually a
00:41:36.320 predictable
00:41:36.760 outcome of
00:41:37.700 deliberate
00:41:38.500 policy choices
00:41:39.660 that the
00:41:40.080 Biden
00:41:40.280 administration
00:41:40.820 has made,
00:41:42.480 and knowing
00:41:44.060 that they are
00:41:44.760 going to reap
00:41:45.300 certain benefits
00:41:46.120 from it
00:41:46.740 politically,
00:41:47.700 and even
00:41:48.880 financially.
00:41:50.060 You and I
00:41:50.860 have been
00:41:51.080 talking about
00:41:51.980 these issues
00:41:53.560 for decades,
00:41:55.280 and I would
00:41:57.880 like to
00:41:58.480 just,
00:41:59.340 everybody to
00:42:00.020 focus on
00:42:00.680 some realities
00:42:01.880 here.
00:42:02.620 You talked
00:42:03.480 about this
00:42:04.060 crisis, but
00:42:05.020 it's a crisis
00:42:05.660 of our
00:42:06.560 making.
00:42:07.280 It's a
00:42:07.920 crisis of
00:42:09.100 our making
00:42:09.620 because our
00:42:10.580 taxpayer money
00:42:11.480 goes to
00:42:12.040 those NGOs
00:42:12.900 who are
00:42:14.400 supporting
00:42:15.040 criminal
00:42:15.540 enterprises,
00:42:16.580 and transnational
00:42:18.340 cartels, as
00:42:20.240 you put it,
00:42:20.660 the Mexican
00:42:21.140 drug cartels,
00:42:22.220 is what we're
00:42:22.640 talking about.
00:42:24.040 They have
00:42:25.000 relationships and
00:42:26.720 networks with
00:42:27.780 the Chinese
00:42:28.900 triads as
00:42:30.340 well, and
00:42:30.900 that's where
00:42:31.280 most of the
00:42:32.320 fentanyl is
00:42:33.380 trafficked,
00:42:33.900 from China
00:42:34.640 to Mexico,
00:42:36.400 into the
00:42:36.900 United States,
00:42:38.040 and the
00:42:38.340 result are
00:42:39.200 at least
00:42:39.580 100,000
00:42:40.580 overdose deaths
00:42:41.480 every year,
00:42:43.180 killing Americans
00:42:44.120 without comment,
00:42:45.440 and the fact
00:42:46.020 of the matter
00:42:46.480 is the
00:42:47.300 Democrats know
00:42:48.120 it, the
00:42:48.460 Republicans
00:42:49.000 know it,
00:42:50.400 guess what?
00:42:51.360 Every mayor,
00:42:52.960 every governor
00:42:53.860 in this country
00:42:54.820 knows it,
00:42:55.640 and they
00:42:56.240 are, well,
00:42:57.420 with great
00:42:58.260 exceptions,
00:42:59.080 including the
00:43:00.280 state of
00:43:00.680 Texas, the
00:43:01.940 state of
00:43:02.400 Florida, where
00:43:03.720 they are
00:43:04.260 making every
00:43:05.140 effort to
00:43:06.100 try to
00:43:07.160 stem the
00:43:08.400 flood of
00:43:10.260 illegal
00:43:10.600 immigration,
00:43:11.760 sex trafficking,
00:43:12.460 and deadly
00:43:13.200 drugs across
00:43:14.100 that border
00:43:14.680 and into
00:43:15.180 their states,
00:43:16.440 right?
00:43:17.580 Absolutely
00:43:18.140 right, and
00:43:19.340 it goes
00:43:20.020 further than
00:43:20.620 a lot of
00:43:20.940 people realize.
00:43:21.880 I sat at
00:43:22.520 a hearing a
00:43:23.680 few months
00:43:24.120 ago put on
00:43:25.620 by Senate
00:43:26.080 Republicans and
00:43:26.920 listened to a
00:43:27.660 mother of a
00:43:29.700 young woman who
00:43:30.540 had overdosed
00:43:31.660 on fentanyl
00:43:34.120 that had
00:43:34.860 been cut
00:43:35.400 into ordinary
00:43:36.820 sort of
00:43:37.780 recreational
00:43:38.320 street drugs
00:43:39.280 that are
00:43:39.680 marketed to
00:43:40.520 young people
00:43:41.380 making bad
00:43:42.300 choices who
00:43:43.340 have no idea
00:43:44.060 that they're
00:43:44.480 ingesting
00:43:44.920 fentanyl.
00:43:45.700 They think
00:43:46.000 they're taking
00:43:46.760 some kind of
00:43:47.340 a party
00:43:47.780 drug and it
00:43:48.420 turns out to
00:43:49.060 be laced
00:43:50.140 with fentanyl.
00:43:51.360 I mean,
00:43:51.520 there is a
00:43:52.140 human cost
00:43:53.060 to allowing
00:43:54.660 this open
00:43:55.320 border.
00:43:56.300 100,000
00:43:57.040 people dead
00:43:57.840 alone from
00:43:59.980 opiates and
00:44:00.740 fentanyl.
00:44:02.120 The state
00:44:03.820 of Rhode
00:44:04.160 Island not
00:44:05.020 long ago
00:44:05.760 made a
00:44:06.480 bust where
00:44:07.140 they found
00:44:07.820 someone with
00:44:08.780 41 kilos
00:44:10.740 of fentanyl.
00:44:12.420 Good Lord.
00:44:13.360 Which is an
00:44:14.320 extraordinary
00:44:15.200 amount of
00:44:16.060 it, and of
00:44:16.740 course it was
00:44:17.460 being trafficked
00:44:18.300 by, in this
00:44:19.500 case, Dominicans,
00:44:22.080 illegal aliens
00:44:23.040 from the
00:44:23.420 Dominican
00:44:23.740 Republic,
00:44:24.660 with fake
00:44:25.580 IDs that
00:44:27.180 they got
00:44:27.700 from stealing
00:44:28.420 the social
00:44:28.880 security numbers
00:44:29.740 of U.S.
00:44:30.700 citizens from
00:44:31.360 Puerto Rico
00:44:32.060 that enabled
00:44:33.440 them to hide
00:44:34.120 in plain sight
00:44:34.840 here and get
00:44:35.380 driver's licenses
00:44:36.280 and so on.
00:44:37.360 But yeah,
00:44:37.860 it's a horrible
00:44:39.520 tragedy that is
00:44:40.760 occurring before
00:44:42.160 our eyes and
00:44:43.360 that is being
00:44:43.860 ignored by the
00:44:45.780 open borders
00:44:46.520 advocates.
00:44:47.980 The open
00:44:48.340 borders advocates.
00:44:49.820 You know,
00:44:50.020 there was one
00:44:50.640 president who
00:44:52.020 decided to take
00:44:53.420 on the cartels.
00:44:54.660 And that, of
00:44:56.500 course, was
00:44:56.960 Donald Trump.
00:44:58.220 The 45th
00:44:59.160 president is the
00:44:59.960 only president
00:45:00.740 who's had the
00:45:01.540 guts to say
00:45:02.720 that he was
00:45:04.260 going to take
00:45:04.880 on these
00:45:05.400 cartels.
00:45:06.660 And guess what
00:45:07.480 the result is?
00:45:08.800 Every corporation,
00:45:10.460 seemingly,
00:45:11.180 every corporation,
00:45:12.820 every business
00:45:14.980 on those borders,
00:45:16.580 every commerce
00:45:17.880 lobbyist,
00:45:19.160 every business
00:45:21.460 roundtable
00:45:22.100 lobbyist,
00:45:23.380 Wall Street
00:45:23.960 lobbyist,
00:45:24.860 went after his
00:45:25.620 hide.
00:45:26.560 And they don't
00:45:27.460 want to talk
00:45:27.980 about the
00:45:28.360 cartels.
00:45:28.940 They don't
00:45:29.160 want to talk
00:45:29.640 about the
00:45:30.040 human cost.
00:45:30.880 And by the
00:45:31.200 way, just
00:45:31.940 recently, the
00:45:33.140 former executive
00:45:34.120 director of the
00:45:35.220 Black Caucus
00:45:36.180 Foundation talked
00:45:38.340 about something you
00:45:39.100 and I have been
00:45:39.600 talking about for
00:45:40.400 decades.
00:45:41.440 The cost to
00:45:42.820 American minorities
00:45:44.460 who then find
00:45:47.360 themselves in
00:45:48.060 competition with
00:45:49.000 these illegal
00:45:49.620 immigrants.
00:45:50.640 And by the way,
00:45:51.080 that's just the
00:45:51.680 most benign damage
00:45:53.260 that's being done
00:45:54.360 to the country.
00:45:55.640 It's not as
00:45:56.700 violent as the
00:45:58.040 overdose deaths.
00:45:59.180 It's not as
00:45:59.720 profound for the
00:46:04.020 country in some
00:46:04.880 respect as all of
00:46:07.440 the other economic
00:46:08.500 impacts.
00:46:09.440 But for African
00:46:11.440 Americans in
00:46:12.260 particular, it's
00:46:14.280 devastating.
00:46:15.460 It's a big
00:46:16.260 deal.
00:46:16.940 It's the denial
00:46:18.000 of job
00:46:18.920 opportunities because
00:46:20.020 of unfair
00:46:20.600 competition from
00:46:21.720 employers that
00:46:22.500 would rather hire
00:46:23.320 cheap illegal
00:46:24.020 labor.
00:46:25.360 It's, you know,
00:46:26.460 cutting off these
00:46:28.080 kids' opportunities
00:46:29.240 to build a life for
00:46:30.620 themselves of good
00:46:31.980 employment.
00:46:33.120 And it's destroying
00:46:34.480 their schools and
00:46:35.580 neighborhoods, too.
00:46:37.100 Yeah, I mean,
00:46:37.780 it's devastating.
00:46:39.720 That's all there is
00:46:40.520 to it, to every,
00:46:41.780 every American.
00:46:43.100 one way or the
00:46:44.860 other, except for
00:46:46.060 those who are in
00:46:46.800 direct profit of
00:46:47.880 it.
00:46:49.080 And so what are we
00:46:50.700 going to see
00:46:52.660 happen?
00:46:53.780 Greg Abbott, the
00:46:55.020 governor of Texas,
00:46:55.960 has done a marvelous
00:46:57.040 job of mobilizing his
00:46:58.640 state and trying to
00:47:00.900 secure that border.
00:47:03.260 Anybody else come to
00:47:05.040 mind in the states
00:47:07.020 with particularly
00:47:08.260 interesting initiatives
00:47:09.780 to try to stop
00:47:11.620 this illegal
00:47:12.260 immigration?
00:47:14.020 Yes, there are.
00:47:14.800 And yes, Governor
00:47:15.900 Abbott in Texas is
00:47:17.300 doing a good job.
00:47:18.360 He's trying to
00:47:19.480 prevent people from
00:47:20.780 getting into the
00:47:21.540 country to begin
00:47:22.400 with and to
00:47:23.180 backstop the border
00:47:24.260 patrol in catching
00:47:26.460 the gotaways and so
00:47:27.800 on.
00:47:28.340 But there are some
00:47:29.280 other states, you
00:47:29.960 know, every state, of
00:47:30.860 course, is a border
00:47:31.600 state.
00:47:32.580 You know, when the
00:47:33.680 border is not
00:47:34.180 controlled, that's
00:47:34.780 almost a cliche
00:47:35.440 nowadays.
00:47:35.980 So other governors
00:47:37.520 are trying things
00:47:38.320 as well.
00:47:38.920 Governor DeSantis
00:47:39.680 in Florida has
00:47:40.720 issued a series of
00:47:42.260 executive orders that
00:47:44.180 are doing a number
00:47:45.020 of important things.
00:47:46.260 And one of them is
00:47:47.060 to try to prevent
00:47:48.300 these illegal
00:47:50.940 border crossers from
00:47:52.040 being transported
00:47:53.060 into Florida, not
00:47:54.880 only to stop the
00:47:55.720 smuggling, but also
00:47:56.960 to stop the NGOs
00:47:58.660 from getting
00:47:59.320 contracts with the
00:48:00.400 federal government to
00:48:01.360 bring them in.
00:48:03.540 And so that's
00:48:04.340 really important to
00:48:05.180 just not play
00:48:05.980 along with this
00:48:07.780 catch-and-release
00:48:08.840 policy and say,
00:48:09.900 you know, they're
00:48:10.300 not coming here
00:48:10.940 that easily.
00:48:12.260 He's also going
00:48:13.140 after employers.
00:48:14.540 He's empowering
00:48:15.720 law enforcement
00:48:16.460 agencies to
00:48:17.280 enforce state
00:48:18.260 laws that, if
00:48:20.740 enforced, help
00:48:21.880 disrupt illegal
00:48:23.300 employment and
00:48:24.420 identity theft of
00:48:26.260 the kind that we've
00:48:26.920 been talking about.
00:48:27.940 So there definitely
00:48:29.040 are things that
00:48:30.000 states can do
00:48:30.840 beyond the
00:48:31.780 lawsuits, which
00:48:32.820 are also important
00:48:33.820 as well.
00:48:34.580 I don't want to
00:48:35.500 discount them to
00:48:36.960 fight it out in
00:48:37.720 court to try to...
00:48:40.300 Don't you think
00:48:41.800 we can discount
00:48:42.460 just about
00:48:43.080 everything that's
00:48:44.540 been done to
00:48:45.120 this point?
00:48:45.660 Because we're
00:48:46.240 looking at a
00:48:47.320 crisis, a
00:48:48.680 disaster on our
00:48:49.720 border.
00:48:50.180 We are watching
00:48:51.460 illegal immigrants
00:48:52.560 by the millions
00:48:53.480 coming into this
00:48:54.520 country, and what
00:48:57.100 are they doing?
00:48:57.840 They're going to
00:48:58.360 be counted, and
00:48:59.640 we're counted, in
00:49:00.880 the census.
00:49:01.320 Those states
00:49:02.560 where those
00:49:03.160 illegal immigrants
00:49:04.080 are will attract
00:49:06.400 more districts
00:49:07.580 for Congress,
00:49:08.580 more representation
00:49:09.480 in Congress
00:49:10.440 against every
00:49:11.860 citizen in the
00:49:12.620 country who
00:49:13.640 simply, simply
00:49:15.380 will be
00:49:15.840 underrepresented
00:49:16.720 because of these
00:49:17.940 millions of
00:49:18.580 illegal immigrants
00:49:19.400 who are coming
00:49:19.920 into the country.
00:49:21.200 And by the way,
00:49:22.680 how many of them
00:49:23.560 will be able to
00:49:24.180 vote illegally?
00:49:25.240 Because no one
00:49:26.360 is watching it,
00:49:27.160 certainly not the
00:49:27.800 Republican Party.
00:49:28.760 Well, that's
00:49:30.100 a two-pronged
00:49:32.460 strategy they
00:49:33.120 have, is to
00:49:33.760 flood the
00:49:35.020 districts with
00:49:35.980 new people who
00:49:37.480 aren't here
00:49:38.160 illegally to
00:49:39.100 boost certain
00:49:40.000 districts, but
00:49:40.740 also to pass
00:49:41.980 voting laws that
00:49:44.040 make it tough to
00:49:45.020 crack down on
00:49:46.080 illegal voting
00:49:47.000 itself.
00:49:48.160 So put the two
00:49:48.880 together, and
00:49:49.800 that's a recipe
00:49:50.580 for diluting, if
00:49:53.980 not denying, the
00:49:55.000 votes and the
00:49:55.740 will of Americans.
00:49:56.960 Yeah, it's
00:49:58.600 absolutely
00:49:59.540 horrific.
00:50:01.780 Why don't we
00:50:03.960 have somebody in
00:50:05.400 Congress that is
00:50:06.160 a champion of
00:50:07.840 the middle-class
00:50:09.600 working man and
00:50:11.640 woman, a champion
00:50:13.560 of small business
00:50:14.560 who says, this is
00:50:15.700 tearing us to
00:50:16.400 pieces.
00:50:17.340 Oh, sure, there
00:50:17.820 are some small
00:50:18.380 businesses that
00:50:19.160 benefit, principally
00:50:20.120 in Texas,
00:50:20.880 Louisiana, a
00:50:21.760 number of other
00:50:22.260 places, because
00:50:23.880 they are in
00:50:25.220 residential sales
00:50:27.220 there, and the
00:50:29.020 rental business,
00:50:29.860 whatever it may
00:50:30.400 be.
00:50:32.720 It's just
00:50:33.420 stunning to me
00:50:34.340 that no one
00:50:35.120 wants to see the
00:50:36.280 real result of
00:50:37.480 all of this.
00:50:38.960 And by the way,
00:50:39.860 why don't we ask
00:50:40.440 ourselves at the
00:50:41.280 same time, who's
00:50:42.580 paying off the
00:50:43.620 border patrol?
00:50:45.080 What does it
00:50:45.940 cost to bribe a
00:50:48.880 border patrol agent,
00:50:49.920 and how many are
00:50:50.720 taking bribes, and
00:50:52.060 why can't we
00:50:52.880 get a border
00:50:54.820 patrol that
00:50:55.940 stands up
00:50:56.660 against this
00:50:58.120 onslaught?
00:51:00.060 Well, there's
00:51:01.160 always a risk of
00:51:02.580 corruption, but I
00:51:03.400 think we can get a
00:51:04.940 border patrol that
00:51:05.680 stands up against
00:51:06.680 this, as long as,
00:51:07.840 first of all, we're
00:51:08.380 not constantly
00:51:09.040 enriching the
00:51:09.760 cartels, giving
00:51:10.620 them more money
00:51:11.880 with which to
00:51:12.840 corrupt public
00:51:13.740 officials, but
00:51:14.980 also through
00:51:15.520 policies and not
00:51:16.940 overwhelming the
00:51:18.000 border patrol with
00:51:19.380 all of this
00:51:20.040 illegal migration
00:51:21.540 so that they
00:51:22.960 can, if they're
00:51:23.880 not overwhelmed,
00:51:24.600 they can do
00:51:25.060 their job, and
00:51:26.400 they can take the
00:51:27.160 time to train and
00:51:28.660 monitor.
00:51:29.640 How many more
00:51:30.180 border patrol agents
00:51:31.140 do we have today
00:51:32.140 that we had a
00:51:32.840 decade ago, or
00:51:33.960 two decades ago?
00:51:35.420 We actually have a
00:51:36.280 lot more now than
00:51:37.340 we used to, and
00:51:38.340 most people think
00:51:40.200 that the answer is
00:51:40.800 not more border
00:51:41.660 patrol agents, but
00:51:43.040 letting them do
00:51:43.840 their job, and
00:51:45.340 not having policies
00:51:46.380 that undermine them.
00:51:47.580 I don't want to
00:51:48.100 let them do their
00:51:49.820 job, I want a
00:51:51.020 border patrol that
00:51:51.820 wants to do its
00:51:52.880 job, a leadership
00:51:54.320 who makes certain
00:51:55.740 that they're doing
00:51:56.360 their job, a
00:51:57.160 Congress that has
00:51:58.240 oversight, a
00:51:59.520 president who
00:52:00.360 demands it.
00:52:01.760 This is madness
00:52:03.180 what we're
00:52:03.680 watching.
00:52:04.360 We're building
00:52:04.920 another giant
00:52:06.160 bureaucracy in the
00:52:07.460 federal government,
00:52:08.360 and people walk
00:52:09.300 around on the
00:52:10.760 border saying, I'm
00:52:11.460 a border patrol
00:52:12.120 agent.
00:52:12.800 The only problem
00:52:13.300 is they're not
00:52:14.100 patrolling anything,
00:52:15.160 they're not
00:52:15.580 apprehending anyone,
00:52:17.280 and if they do,
00:52:18.320 they're released
00:52:18.920 into the
00:52:19.360 country.
00:52:19.800 And by the
00:52:20.280 way, it's
00:52:20.840 not like the
00:52:22.020 illegal immigrants
00:52:23.660 or the sex
00:52:24.500 trafficking, those
00:52:25.760 people sort of
00:52:26.520 hide in the dark
00:52:27.500 and make their
00:52:28.080 way north.
00:52:29.260 They're being
00:52:30.000 picked up by
00:52:31.000 government-chartered
00:52:32.080 aircraft and
00:52:33.400 deposited in the
00:52:34.440 dead of night in
00:52:35.900 communities all over
00:52:37.180 this country by the
00:52:38.280 Biden administration,
00:52:40.040 and nobody wants
00:52:41.260 to focus on it.
00:52:43.580 Well, we have to
00:52:44.880 have hope that there
00:52:46.180 are enough people
00:52:47.020 out there, whether
00:52:47.780 they're in the
00:52:48.420 border patrol or
00:52:49.560 in ICE, who are
00:52:50.960 going to outlast
00:52:52.000 the Biden
00:52:52.640 administration and
00:52:54.180 remember what
00:52:55.680 oath they took
00:52:56.560 and know what
00:52:59.140 they owe to the
00:53:00.600 citizens of this
00:53:01.380 country who pay
00:53:02.120 their salaries and
00:53:03.220 who they want to
00:53:05.260 serve.
00:53:06.900 I like to think
00:53:08.120 that they're going
00:53:09.260 to outlast these
00:53:10.280 bad policies.
00:53:11.300 It's going to
00:53:11.660 take a while,
00:53:12.340 it's painful, and
00:53:13.280 some of this
00:53:13.720 damage, frankly,
00:53:14.500 can't be undone.
00:53:15.420 But, you know,
00:53:16.900 we have to get
00:53:17.420 up and go to
00:53:17.840 work every day
00:53:18.520 and keep fighting
00:53:19.180 for it.
00:53:20.280 Yeah, I understand
00:53:22.240 what you're saying,
00:53:23.000 I understand why.
00:53:24.860 But getting up and
00:53:25.780 going to work every
00:53:26.700 day and fighting,
00:53:28.180 when we've been
00:53:29.180 doing the same
00:53:29.800 things over and
00:53:31.040 over and over,
00:53:32.240 since 1986,
00:53:34.620 when the Reagan
00:53:35.940 amnesty took
00:53:37.760 place, we have
00:53:39.660 been absolutely
00:53:41.780 deceived by the
00:53:43.840 Democratic Party,
00:53:44.860 which has become
00:53:46.160 nothing more than
00:53:46.920 an agency for
00:53:47.860 illegal immigration
00:53:48.740 for the drugs
00:53:49.680 that are being
00:53:50.640 shipped by the
00:53:51.380 cartels, sex
00:53:52.720 traffic, and make
00:53:53.460 no mistake, they're
00:53:54.340 aligned with the
00:53:55.260 cartels, whether
00:53:56.460 intentionally or
00:53:57.560 otherwise.
00:53:58.780 They're aligned.
00:54:00.020 Corporate America
00:54:00.660 is aligned with
00:54:02.620 those cartels, and
00:54:04.680 their obscene,
00:54:07.320 corrupt profits.
00:54:10.400 It's disgusting.
00:54:11.560 It is, but I
00:54:13.800 mean, I'm
00:54:15.460 optimistic.
00:54:16.720 Donald Trump
00:54:17.280 showed people
00:54:18.080 that.
00:54:18.380 Let me finish
00:54:19.560 one thing.
00:54:20.340 Okay.
00:54:21.660 Why should we
00:54:23.340 not be direct and
00:54:24.980 honest about what
00:54:25.740 we're dealing with
00:54:26.400 here?
00:54:27.140 We have a corrupt
00:54:28.860 America that is
00:54:30.280 permitting this.
00:54:31.160 You mentioned the
00:54:31.900 Dominicans, the
00:54:32.700 gangs that come up
00:54:33.740 from the Dominicans,
00:54:34.720 primarily on the
00:54:35.820 East Coast.
00:54:37.340 But we've also
00:54:38.660 got MS-13, all of
00:54:40.480 the Central
00:54:40.980 American gangs
00:54:42.060 that are operating
00:54:42.980 here.
00:54:43.560 And when I say
00:54:44.680 gangs, I'm
00:54:45.300 talking about
00:54:46.100 transnational
00:54:47.300 gangs and
00:54:49.760 cartels that
00:54:50.860 have invaded
00:54:53.760 every city and
00:54:55.320 are part of this
00:54:56.320 crime wave that
00:54:57.960 is sweeping
00:54:58.640 America.
00:54:59.680 We've got to be
00:55:00.760 honest about
00:55:01.360 what's going on
00:55:02.100 here.
00:55:02.580 We've got to do
00:55:03.380 more than say
00:55:03.920 this is a policy
00:55:04.840 issue.
00:55:05.780 This is a
00:55:06.380 damn
00:55:06.780 existential
00:55:08.020 issue for
00:55:08.920 American society.
00:55:11.040 It really is
00:55:12.600 when you
00:55:13.380 consider the
00:55:14.280 corruption and
00:55:15.580 the violence
00:55:16.260 that enables
00:55:17.740 it can
00:55:18.960 infect our
00:55:20.660 government and
00:55:22.740 our communities,
00:55:23.840 particularly, you
00:55:24.840 know, with the
00:55:25.280 likes of MS-13
00:55:26.940 and their
00:55:28.460 extortion
00:55:29.360 rackets and
00:55:30.500 the way that
00:55:31.300 they can, you
00:55:32.960 know, because
00:55:33.380 they make so
00:55:34.120 much money and
00:55:35.180 instill so much
00:55:36.220 fear in
00:55:36.840 communities, they
00:55:38.320 can become
00:55:40.080 extremely powerful
00:55:41.300 because people are
00:55:42.460 afraid of them.
00:55:43.200 And we need to
00:55:44.280 say, we need to
00:55:45.060 say that something
00:55:46.400 like 40% of the
00:55:48.140 unaccompanied
00:55:48.720 minors, excuse
00:55:49.780 me, 40% of the
00:55:50.960 MS-13 members
00:55:52.200 arrested by ICE in
00:55:53.480 recent years
00:55:54.260 originally came
00:55:55.340 here as unaccompanied
00:55:57.300 minors.
00:55:57.800 And so to the
00:55:58.760 extent that we
00:55:59.480 allow these
00:56:01.580 kids to keep
00:56:02.980 coming here and
00:56:03.880 released into our
00:56:04.740 communities, we're
00:56:05.980 enabling MS-13 to
00:56:07.440 grow its ranks.
00:56:08.600 And the more
00:56:09.020 they become
00:56:09.760 entrenched here,
00:56:11.260 the harder they're
00:56:11.980 going to be to
00:56:13.000 uproot.
00:56:14.200 There have been
00:56:15.180 towns in
00:56:15.740 California where
00:56:16.960 political leaders
00:56:19.020 have been
00:56:20.320 bought off by
00:56:22.000 MS-13, perhaps
00:56:23.280 not directly,
00:56:24.420 and maybe
00:56:25.480 they're too
00:56:26.120 dim-witted to
00:56:26.960 realize where
00:56:28.160 this money is
00:56:28.740 coming from, but
00:56:29.520 it is a
00:56:30.300 corrupting and
00:56:31.020 can be a
00:56:31.660 deadly corrupting
00:56:32.740 influence, the
00:56:34.160 same way that
00:56:35.280 the mob and
00:56:36.860 other gangs and
00:56:40.080 criminal
00:56:40.840 organizations have
00:56:41.760 done it in the
00:56:42.440 past throughout
00:56:43.140 our history.
00:56:44.840 But yeah, we
00:56:46.080 can't sugarcoat
00:56:47.600 it, we can't
00:56:48.360 deny it's
00:56:49.000 happening, we
00:56:49.620 can't cover it
00:56:50.640 up by saying
00:56:51.280 these are just
00:56:51.900 kids seeking
00:56:52.620 asylum or
00:56:54.100 people fleeing
00:56:55.200 for a better
00:56:55.700 life.
00:56:56.900 We are
00:56:57.700 allowing criminal
00:56:59.480 enterprises to
00:57:00.260 flourish here.
00:57:01.160 And of course
00:57:01.880 that is the
00:57:02.420 fantasy perpetrated
00:57:03.620 by the
00:57:04.060 Chamber of
00:57:04.520 Commerce, by
00:57:05.180 the Business
00:57:05.640 Roundtable, the
00:57:06.900 NGOs that you
00:57:08.200 spoke of.
00:57:08.980 It is the
00:57:09.540 fantasy that so
00:57:11.540 many people want
00:57:12.320 to believe because
00:57:13.060 that's easier than
00:57:14.200 believing their
00:57:14.940 lying eyes as
00:57:15.900 they watch family
00:57:17.280 after family be
00:57:18.380 destroyed by these
00:57:19.580 drugs and
00:57:21.000 lives.
00:57:21.660 devastated if
00:57:24.220 not destroyed.
00:57:25.680 It's just, it's
00:57:26.900 a terrible thing.
00:57:27.960 And we have an
00:57:28.760 administration, as
00:57:30.360 we conclude here,
00:57:31.280 Jessica, and I
00:57:32.280 want to give you
00:57:32.720 the last word as
00:57:33.720 we try to do
00:57:35.840 every podcast, I
00:57:38.200 want to give you
00:57:38.940 the last word
00:57:40.020 because the
00:57:41.000 Biden administration
00:57:42.080 is trying to
00:57:43.080 break our
00:57:44.040 border.
00:57:45.040 No doubt about
00:57:46.060 it, our
00:57:46.360 immigration system.
00:57:47.840 They want the
00:57:48.760 open border
00:57:49.580 society to
00:57:50.520 prevail.
00:57:51.540 They're defying
00:57:52.560 federal law, the
00:57:53.660 Supreme Court, the
00:57:55.360 remain in Mexico
00:57:56.340 policy.
00:57:57.900 You know, you
00:57:58.680 know the numbers
00:57:59.260 far better than I
00:58:00.100 ever will, but we're
00:58:01.340 talking about
00:58:01.700 hundreds instead of
00:58:02.860 tens of thousands
00:58:04.100 who should be in
00:58:07.200 Mexico on the
00:58:08.220 remain policy.
00:58:11.660 This administration
00:58:12.900 is flouting the
00:58:13.920 law, flouting its
00:58:15.980 responsibility to act
00:58:18.840 in the national
00:58:19.540 interest.
00:58:20.080 It is absolutely
00:58:20.900 a crisis, but
00:58:22.220 it's also a
00:58:23.060 disgusting
00:58:23.880 abandonment and
00:58:25.820 betrayal that the
00:58:27.300 American people
00:58:28.220 are the, right
00:58:30.560 now, the passive
00:58:31.880 victims of.
00:58:33.480 Your last word.
00:58:35.600 Well, you're
00:58:36.620 right.
00:58:36.900 I mean, it is
00:58:37.940 disturbing to see
00:58:39.200 that the Biden
00:58:40.840 administration is
00:58:41.760 willing to even
00:58:43.700 behave in contempt
00:58:45.440 of federal courts
00:58:46.540 after having been
00:58:47.420 ordered to restart
00:58:49.160 the successful
00:58:50.520 remain in Mexico
00:58:51.500 program, only
00:58:52.660 subjecting 300
00:58:54.380 people to it when
00:58:56.180 there were more
00:58:56.960 than 170,000
00:58:58.620 people caught at
00:58:59.880 the border.
00:59:00.620 This is how far
00:59:01.720 they're willing to
00:59:02.500 go to enact
00:59:03.740 their no borders
00:59:05.220 agenda, to defy
00:59:06.620 federal court
00:59:07.360 orders all in
00:59:08.500 service of
00:59:09.120 something they
00:59:09.620 think that is
00:59:10.480 going to keep
00:59:11.080 them in power for
00:59:12.880 years to come.
00:59:13.840 But we're also
00:59:15.020 seeing a realignment
00:59:16.280 of even some
00:59:17.500 mainstream politicians
00:59:19.200 who understand what
00:59:20.500 Donald Trump
00:59:21.300 showed, which is
00:59:22.200 that Americans
00:59:23.320 think borders are
00:59:24.980 fundamental to our
00:59:26.060 sovereignty and want
00:59:26.940 to see them
00:59:27.420 enforced, and that
00:59:28.500 that's a politically
00:59:29.960 winning position
00:59:31.640 that they all need
00:59:33.080 to adopt if they
00:59:34.220 want to stay
00:59:34.760 employed in
00:59:36.140 government and
00:59:38.040 representing American
00:59:39.300 voters, that
00:59:39.880 ultimately the
00:59:40.940 people's voice
00:59:41.940 has to be
00:59:43.360 followed if
00:59:45.180 they want to
00:59:45.720 keep their jobs.
00:59:47.460 Yeah, unfortunately
00:59:48.020 the people are
00:59:49.740 being told by
00:59:50.560 by government
00:59:51.860 that they are
00:59:53.320 the people's
00:59:54.660 enemy, whether
00:59:55.960 it's the attorney
00:59:56.540 general saying
00:59:57.480 that he is
00:59:59.120 going to go
00:59:59.780 after parents
01:00:00.580 and school board
01:00:01.280 meetings as
01:00:01.860 domestic terrorists,
01:00:03.360 whether it's the
01:00:04.100 January 6th
01:00:05.120 committee, which
01:00:06.500 is just a rank
01:00:07.360 sham Soviet
01:00:09.020 style.
01:00:11.040 Soviet era
01:00:12.780 show trial.
01:00:14.480 It's disgusting.
01:00:15.620 It's disgusting
01:00:16.340 how corrupt
01:00:16.980 this country is
01:00:17.940 and the
01:00:18.680 passivity with
01:00:19.600 which we
01:00:21.240 seem to be
01:00:22.000 checked by
01:00:23.760 our government.
01:00:27.540 Jessica, thanks
01:00:28.280 for everything
01:00:28.740 you do.
01:00:29.240 I hope you'll
01:00:29.920 come back soon.
01:00:30.820 We've got a lot
01:00:31.480 to talk about.
01:00:32.420 This crisis is
01:00:33.200 only going to
01:00:33.840 get worse and
01:00:35.000 much bigger.
01:00:36.420 Thanks so much
01:00:37.180 for being with
01:00:37.740 us.
01:00:38.040 Jessica Vaughn,
01:00:39.240 the Center for
01:00:39.780 Immigration Studies.
01:00:40.900 Thank you, Jessica.
01:00:42.360 My great pleasure.
01:00:43.380 Thank you.
01:00:44.220 Thank you.
01:00:44.780 Join us again
01:00:45.380 tomorrow for the
01:00:46.300 Great America
01:00:46.940 podcast.
01:00:47.940 Stay in the
01:00:48.440 fight.
01:00:48.900 Truth, justice,
01:00:49.940 and the American
01:00:50.400 way will prevail
01:00:51.520 against all
01:00:52.380 enemies, against
01:00:53.360 all odds.
01:00:54.320 Thank you.
01:00:54.520 Thank you.