The Great America Show - CHANG：BIDEN BLIND ON CHINA - VAUGHN：OPEN BORDER BIDEN’S FAULT

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.440 Hello, everybody. Wonderful to have you with us for this edition of the Great America Show.

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00:00:38.820 We call the show the Great America Show because that's exactly what America is.

00:00:43.960 We're proud of this great country, and we say so without apology to anyone, to President Biden, to Dr. Fauci, or whomever.

00:00:52.380 And we're here to make sure all who would drag us down fail, and all who are in uniform, who work so hard,

00:01:00.000 who put their lives on the line to keep this land free and our nation great,

00:01:04.900 all have our support and whatever it takes to succeed in keeping this republic of ours vibrant and vigorous and God-willing in perpetuity.

00:01:14.400 And yes, we're dedicated to those working men and women, those small business people in this country,

00:01:19.660 who are the very heart of the nation, our middle class, and all who aspire to it.

00:01:25.280 God bless you, and God bless this great country of ours.

00:01:29.380 Now, you might be getting the impression I'm a little fired up today, and you would be right.

00:01:34.020 And my guess is you'll understand why when we take up some of the events that are taking place,

00:01:38.940 some of the issues facing the country right now,

00:01:41.820 and this hapless, heartless aggregation of leftists who mean to reshape the country,

00:01:47.820 to remove our rights as citizens, to crush Christianity, 1.00

00:01:51.340 while destroying the American family, our capitalist system,

00:01:55.740 that brought prosperity to not only hundreds of millions of Americans,

00:01:59.560 but to people all around the world.

00:02:02.340 And now, to the matters at hand.

00:02:04.620 Communist China's President Xi is at it again,

00:02:08.160 trying to intimidate the world,

00:02:10.740 while his own country is threatened by another wave of perhaps two variants

00:02:14.960 of the Wuhan coronavirus he unleashed on an unsuspecting world. 0.99

00:02:21.180 This is the Beijing Winter Olympics approach.

00:02:23.880 President Xi telling the West,

00:02:25.820 do not engage in a cold war with all-powerful communist China.

00:02:30.160 He did everything but tell President Biden to bow down

00:02:34.440 when he hears the words President Xi spoken.

00:02:39.380 Joining us now is one of America's foremost experts on China,

00:02:43.160 indeed on global security and geopolitics,

00:02:46.000 and a great American, our good friend, Gordon Chang.

00:02:50.040 Gordon, great to have you with us.

00:02:52.160 Well, thank you so much, Lou.

00:02:54.480 Let's start with President Xi,

00:02:56.840 deciding it was time for him to tell the world not to even think about a cold war,

00:03:01.740 much less a hot one,

00:03:04.680 with the all-powerful communist Chinese People's Liberation Army at hand.

00:03:12.580 What do you make of it?

00:03:14.120 Your thoughts.

00:03:15.620 Yeah, when Xi Jinping talked to Davos,

00:03:18.620 which he has a habit of doing,

00:03:20.520 he always has these 30,000-foot generalities

00:03:23.640 about how the world needs to come together,

00:03:26.320 how everyone needs to cooperate,

00:03:28.400 how we shouldn't have trade wars,

00:03:30.160 how we shouldn't do this,

00:03:31.580 how we shouldn't do that.

00:03:32.860 And that's exactly what we heard a couple days ago.

00:03:36.000 But I think that even Davos is starting to get a little tired of that

00:03:40.160 because the reality is very different.

00:03:42.580 Just to give you an example,

00:03:44.320 while China was ravaged by at least two variants,

00:03:49.560 the Omicron and the Delta,

00:03:50.840 and maybe a new one,

00:03:52.720 what they were trying to do, Lou,

00:03:54.300 was to say,

00:03:55.000 well, look,

00:03:55.640 this Omicron came from Canada on the surface of an envelope,

00:03:58.780 and so therefore don't buy foreign products anymore.

00:04:01.980 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:04:03.520 I've got to say here,

00:04:04.700 if I may interrupt you,

00:04:05.920 I apologize.

00:04:07.180 But I mean,

00:04:07.860 that's so ludicrous and so stupid

00:04:10.520 that it's unbecoming President Xi.

00:04:14.580 It's unbecoming anyone who gives a damn about truth.

00:04:18.600 How dare he?

00:04:20.040 And isn't his country, 0.97

00:04:23.000 those who know about it,

00:04:24.640 embarrassed by such a proclamation?

00:04:26.360 You know,

00:04:27.880 I think that Chinese officials below him

00:04:30.400 must be embarrassed,

00:04:32.140 but he's certainly not.

00:04:34.200 And what he's doing by saying these things

00:04:36.220 is he's expecting foreigners like Biden

00:04:38.920 to repeat them as a sign of obedience.

00:04:42.440 So, yes,

00:04:43.620 China does have all of these absurd statements

00:04:45.920 that the ruler makes,

00:04:47.520 but we're expected to not only listen,

00:04:49.920 but to follow and tremble and obey.

00:04:52.200 My gosh.

00:04:54.180 And what's, of course,

00:04:56.160 disconcerting is we don't have a good read

00:04:58.880 on Biden's,

00:05:01.240 we know something about his state of mind,

00:05:03.220 and it's not either good or pleasant.

00:05:05.940 But we don't know what he's thinking about China,

00:05:09.300 what he's agreed to,

00:05:10.360 and what he's not,

00:05:11.680 if anything.

00:05:12.300 So he is really,

00:05:15.380 it's an incredible thing to say,

00:05:17.760 he's an unknown quantity

00:05:19.280 as we are faced

00:05:20.500 with these national security threats

00:05:22.800 from Beijing.

00:05:24.000 Yeah.

00:05:24.720 One thing that we do know

00:05:26.360 in terms of broad outline

00:05:28.080 is that Biden does not consider China

00:05:30.600 to be America's number one

00:05:32.340 national security threat.

00:05:34.160 He believes that climate change is.

00:05:36.980 But climate change hasn't killed

00:05:38.780 855,000 Americans

00:05:40.820 in the last couple of years.

00:05:42.540 But the virus did.

00:05:44.260 And we know, Liu,

00:05:45.560 that this virus probably came

00:05:47.500 from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:05:49.840 We know that, let's say, 95%.

00:05:51.680 But there's something 100% we do know,

00:05:55.240 and that is Xi Jinping made decisions

00:05:57.620 to spread this disease

00:05:59.380 beyond China's borders

00:06:00.800 once it got out into the Chinese public.

00:06:03.900 They lied about transmissibility.

00:06:05.960 And while they were locking down

00:06:07.240 their own country,

00:06:08.220 they were trying to force other countries 0.98

00:06:10.240 to take arrivals from China

00:06:11.580 without travel restrictions

00:06:12.880 or quarantines.

00:06:14.220 You put just those two things together,

00:06:16.400 and there are more.

00:06:17.240 But just those two things together,

00:06:18.740 it shows that they wanted

00:06:20.280 to spread this disease.

00:06:21.740 This is the first time in history

00:06:23.300 that one nation has attacked

00:06:24.820 all the others.

00:06:26.560 Yeah, it's really true.

00:06:28.400 And as I said at the time,

00:06:30.100 and you know this,

00:06:31.840 in early 2020,

00:06:34.920 I said this is the moral equivalent

00:06:36.820 of murder

00:06:38.740 to allow this virus

00:06:41.800 to be spread across the world

00:06:45.260 without a warning

00:06:46.700 when they knew precisely

00:06:48.160 what they were doing

00:06:49.080 and the impact of it

00:06:51.280 and the lethality of that virus.

00:06:54.900 You're absolutely right.

00:06:56.080 This is murder.

00:06:57.120 So 5.5 million people

00:06:59.640 around the world,

00:07:00.760 outside China,

00:07:01.520 who died from this disease,

00:07:03.780 we should consider

00:07:04.520 each one of those

00:07:05.760 a murder.

00:07:07.720 No question about it.

00:07:09.380 And we also should consider

00:07:11.840 what in the world

00:07:13.360 is to be done

00:07:14.760 if there are now,

00:07:17.460 as it appears there will be,

00:07:19.460 subsequent waves

00:07:20.620 that look like

00:07:22.440 they're going to,

00:07:23.480 if they do not

00:07:24.700 appear first in Europe,

00:07:28.060 it appears

00:07:29.060 that they're going

00:07:29.840 to be present

00:07:31.240 in China

00:07:32.140 just as the Beijing

00:07:33.720 so-called winter games

00:07:35.540 begin.

00:07:36.900 This has got to be

00:07:37.860 a nightmare

00:07:38.360 for President Xi,

00:07:40.220 for the Communist Party,

00:07:41.580 and for China itself.

00:07:44.880 Yes.

00:07:45.260 I mean,

00:07:45.640 in Beijing,

00:07:46.760 they're reporting

00:07:47.360 Omicron cases.

00:07:48.760 But some people

00:07:49.600 are saying,

00:07:50.080 that this is

00:07:51.480 a new variant,

00:07:53.180 one that has

00:07:53.820 yet to be identified.

00:07:55.660 And we don't know

00:07:56.600 its virulence,

00:07:57.340 and we don't know

00:07:58.080 its transmissibility.

00:07:59.740 Now,

00:08:00.140 these reports

00:08:01.040 are unconfirmed,

00:08:02.780 but the point is

00:08:03.660 that China 0.93

00:08:04.120 is not cooperating

00:08:05.340 with the United States,

00:08:06.700 with the World Health Organization.

00:08:08.280 It's not cooperating

00:08:09.180 with anybody

00:08:10.040 in trying to get

00:08:11.360 to the bottom

00:08:11.940 of what's occurring

00:08:12.820 in Beijing.

00:08:13.660 So we have

00:08:14.260 all these athletes,

00:08:15.520 reporters,

00:08:16.660 journalists,

00:08:17.700 officials,

00:08:18.560 all going over

00:08:19.680 to China.

00:08:20.840 And they're going

00:08:21.280 to come back

00:08:21.860 perhaps with something

00:08:22.860 even more nasty

00:08:23.900 than what we've seen

00:08:24.760 up to now.

00:08:26.500 Yeah,

00:08:26.620 and I'm really

00:08:27.360 sort of surprised

00:08:28.280 at Comcast

00:08:29.340 and NBC,

00:08:31.380 the broadcasters

00:08:33.380 of the Olympics,

00:08:35.060 that they're not

00:08:36.040 saying more

00:08:36.880 about the Uyghurs,

00:08:38.300 their captivity,

00:08:40.100 their slaughter,

00:08:41.540 their awful

00:08:43.000 human rights abuses.

00:08:45.080 Because, you know,

00:08:46.320 every time you look

00:08:47.160 at an NFL football game,

00:08:48.660 it says,

00:08:49.320 be love,

00:08:50.480 stop hate.

00:08:51.580 but there's

00:08:52.920 absolute silence,

00:08:55.040 silence from NBC

00:08:56.520 on the oppression

00:08:58.940 of the Communist Chinese

00:09:00.700 against the Uyghurs, 0.99

00:09:02.560 the concentration camps,

00:09:05.120 the abuse,

00:09:06.500 and the deaths.

00:09:07.860 Aren't you shocked

00:09:08.980 that they have not

00:09:10.080 not responded at all

00:09:13.500 to the host country's

00:09:16.320 absolute barbarism?

00:09:19.980 Yeah.

00:09:20.720 To be clear,

00:09:22.200 what China is doing

00:09:23.200 is committing

00:09:23.740 acts of genocide,

00:09:24.780 as defined in Article 2

00:09:26.760 of the Genocide Convention

00:09:27.940 of 1948,

00:09:29.180 and is engaged

00:09:30.060 in other crimes

00:09:31.140 against humanity,

00:09:31.940 which includes

00:09:33.000 the mass detentions,

00:09:34.340 the killings,

00:09:35.200 the rapes,

00:09:36.220 the forced slavery,

00:09:37.760 organ harvesting,

00:09:39.080 the imprisonment

00:09:39.820 of children.

00:09:40.920 These are atrocities,

00:09:42.320 Lou,

00:09:42.580 that are comparable

00:09:43.460 to what the Third Reich

00:09:44.640 was doing

00:09:45.200 prior to the mass

00:09:46.220 exterminations of 1941.

00:09:48.940 You know,

00:09:49.180 we always talk about

00:09:50.100 never again,

00:09:51.480 but we have

00:09:52.220 a political class

00:09:53.560 in our country

00:09:54.580 and in other countries

00:09:55.780 that are saying

00:09:56.860 we don't care.

00:09:58.440 Matter of fact,

00:09:59.320 we don't care

00:10:00.220 was what the CEO

00:10:02.260 of Social Capital

00:10:04.140 actually said,

00:10:05.640 Chamath Palihapitiya,

00:10:08.080 in that All In podcast,

00:10:10.240 where he said,

00:10:10.980 no, I don't care

00:10:11.700 what's going on

00:10:12.480 with the Uyghurs, 0.56

00:10:13.220 and then went on

00:10:14.280 to say that

00:10:15.060 human rights abuses,

00:10:16.440 quote unquote,

00:10:17.020 in the U.S.,

00:10:18.000 were comparable

00:10:18.580 to those in China

00:10:20.140 and then said

00:10:21.120 the Chinese Communist Party

00:10:22.480 was perhaps

00:10:23.380 not a dictatorship.

00:10:25.380 This is unspeakable.

00:10:29.560 I mean,

00:10:30.260 it's unspeakable

00:10:32.960 and he is part owner

00:10:34.720 of the Warriors,

00:10:36.100 the NBA Warriors,

00:10:37.480 for crying out loud,

00:10:39.180 who have been

00:10:40.800 at the forefront

00:10:41.580 of running this country down

00:10:43.460 and the disgusting

00:10:45.740 social justice warrior,

00:10:47.800 whatever they call it,

00:10:48.620 social justice war.

00:10:50.500 This is just outrageous

00:10:52.580 that the NBA

00:10:53.600 would behave like this,

00:10:55.140 have an owner

00:10:56.020 or anyone

00:10:56.880 who would sit there

00:10:57.900 and compare

00:10:59.040 the United States

00:11:00.180 and communist China.

00:11:02.580 It's sickening,

00:11:03.440 it's disgusting, 0.65

00:11:04.140 and there hasn't been

00:11:04.960 a word of protest.

00:11:06.380 And LeBron James,

00:11:07.360 I expect you

00:11:08.240 to make some statement

00:11:10.080 about this fool

00:11:11.220 and what he said

00:11:12.660 because I know

00:11:13.760 you've got to be

00:11:14.440 as upset as I am

00:11:15.700 that anyone

00:11:16.680 would demean

00:11:17.420 this country

00:11:18.160 as he did.

00:11:20.300 What do you think?

00:11:21.600 Should we expect

00:11:23.040 a strong memo

00:11:24.920 from the NBA

00:11:25.980 to their owner

00:11:28.380 of the Warriors?

00:11:30.300 Yeah.

00:11:30.860 LeBron James,

00:11:31.760 in particular,

00:11:32.300 has a lot to answer for

00:11:33.700 because,

00:11:34.880 as you point out,

00:11:35.760 Lou,

00:11:36.140 he is so easy

00:11:38.140 off the trigger

00:11:38.960 to criticize

00:11:40.200 the United States.

00:11:41.960 But he was endorsing

00:11:43.120 a product,

00:11:44.080 Nike,

00:11:44.880 that was knowingly

00:11:45.980 using essentially

00:11:47.720 slave labor 0.98

00:11:48.680 of Uyghurs, 0.98

00:11:49.940 of a racial minority.

00:11:52.100 Now,

00:11:52.340 this occurred

00:11:53.080 in Qingdao,

00:11:55.780 and it was done

00:11:56.460 through a South Korean

00:11:57.300 subcontractor.

00:11:58.200 But this subcontractor

00:11:59.140 had a long-term

00:11:59.840 relationship with Nike.

00:12:01.580 Nike was auditing

00:12:02.620 these premises,

00:12:03.580 and it was clear

00:12:04.620 just from looking at them

00:12:05.820 that this was

00:12:06.340 a concentration camp

00:12:07.380 where Uyghur women

00:12:08.540 were transported

00:12:09.440 across China

00:12:10.360 to this place

00:12:11.160 from the western part

00:12:12.400 of China

00:12:12.780 to the eastern part

00:12:14.280 of China

00:12:14.700 to work in

00:12:15.880 concentration camp-like

00:12:17.320 facilities.

00:12:18.600 So LeBron James

00:12:19.400 should talk to

00:12:20.220 the American people

00:12:20.880 about that

00:12:21.340 because he's told us

00:12:22.640 that he actually

00:12:23.540 is knowledgeable

00:12:24.320 about all these issues,

00:12:26.120 and so therefore

00:12:26.700 he has a right

00:12:27.600 to lecture us.

00:12:29.640 Well,

00:12:30.240 he has got a right

00:12:31.260 to lecture us

00:12:33.440 with false facts.

00:12:36.120 Well,

00:12:36.240 actually,

00:12:36.620 he does have the right,

00:12:38.400 but he really shouldn't

00:12:40.340 be sitting there

00:12:41.420 talking nonsense

00:12:42.320 and blathering

00:12:43.460 with all these

00:12:44.880 virtue signals

00:12:45.860 when in point of fact

00:12:47.460 what he's saying

00:12:48.180 ignores the very big reality

00:12:51.620 here that the NBA

00:12:53.720 is taking hundreds

00:12:55.360 of millions

00:12:55.980 of dollars

00:12:56.680 from China

00:12:57.420 to compromise

00:12:58.780 its principles

00:12:59.960 and, frankly,

00:13:02.840 its debts

00:13:03.480 to the United States,

00:13:06.140 its home country.

00:13:07.520 It's outrageous.

00:13:09.520 And LeBron James,

00:13:11.040 whatever his politics,

00:13:12.200 that's fine.

00:13:13.500 It's not fine

00:13:14.560 to, you know,

00:13:16.960 well, I'll put it this way.

00:13:18.520 If LeBron James,

00:13:19.820 this is the only thing

00:13:20.860 that concerns him,

00:13:22.060 then there's something

00:13:22.740 really skewed

00:13:23.780 about his moral compass

00:13:25.860 because what the Chinese

00:13:27.680 are doing

00:13:28.360 with the Uyghurs 1.00

00:13:29.660 is offensive,

00:13:31.460 it's wrong,

00:13:32.220 it's criminal,

00:13:33.320 and it's disgusting 0.87

00:13:34.420 and appalling.

00:13:35.340 And by the way,

00:13:36.420 LeBron James

00:13:37.140 is a minor item

00:13:38.160 in this

00:13:38.580 compared to

00:13:39.260 corporate America

00:13:40.020 and Wall Street.

00:13:40.920 Wall Street

00:13:41.620 that's inviting investors

00:13:43.100 to pour their capital

00:13:44.360 into China.

00:13:46.820 Corporate America,

00:13:48.120 which is,

00:13:48.560 whether it's Walmart

00:13:49.300 or Amazon,

00:13:50.780 bringing in their products

00:13:52.140 by the trillions

00:13:54.760 of dollars

00:13:55.580 to the American

00:13:59.680 consuming public.

00:14:00.820 It's just awful

00:14:01.920 to think about

00:14:02.940 the situation

00:14:03.600 that China is in.

00:14:06.020 And by the way,

00:14:06.980 we Americans

00:14:07.860 are the reason

00:14:08.940 that we are

00:14:11.200 the ones to blame

00:14:12.080 for the position

00:14:13.340 of dependence

00:14:14.060 that we put ourselves in,

00:14:15.560 this position

00:14:16.260 of supporting

00:14:17.040 a communist nation.

00:14:19.440 It's insane

00:14:20.820 that we have gotten

00:14:21.780 ourselves into

00:14:22.640 this mess.

00:14:24.500 Your thoughts?

00:14:25.580 Oh, absolutely.

00:14:26.900 Just before

00:14:27.740 talking about that,

00:14:29.180 the one thing,

00:14:29.960 though,

00:14:30.220 in the NBA,

00:14:31.300 we do have

00:14:32.060 Enos Cantor,

00:14:33.360 who on the day

00:14:33.960 he became

00:14:34.560 an American citizen

00:14:35.500 last year,

00:14:36.600 changed his name

00:14:37.360 to Enos Cantor

00:14:38.480 Freedom

00:14:38.960 because he was

00:14:40.140 so grateful

00:14:40.880 to the United States.

00:14:42.520 And he has spoken

00:14:43.360 out on these Uyghur 1.00

00:14:44.520 and other issues.

00:14:46.180 And so,

00:14:46.660 at least there is

00:14:47.560 one player

00:14:48.740 who has stood

00:14:50.020 for what's good

00:14:51.140 in this world

00:14:51.820 and has become

00:14:53.140 and proud

00:14:53.820 to be an American.

00:14:54.560 On your bigger

00:14:56.420 point,

00:14:57.000 Lou.

00:14:57.120 In his Cantor

00:14:58.440 Freedom,

00:14:59.660 it's incredible

00:15:00.880 that he

00:15:02.140 has this kind

00:15:03.800 of courage

00:15:04.360 and he is

00:15:05.100 to be respected

00:15:06.040 mightily

00:15:06.620 by all of us

00:15:07.400 for what he's done

00:15:08.160 and we owe him

00:15:08.940 a great debt

00:15:09.480 of gratitude.

00:15:10.760 But his courage

00:15:12.520 speaks to the cowardice

00:15:14.620 of the NBA

00:15:15.420 and its craven greed

00:15:17.500 to put money

00:15:18.900 ahead of principle

00:15:20.120 and the interest

00:15:21.340 of the nation.

00:15:22.880 It's awful

00:15:23.940 and the NBA

00:15:25.080 should be excoriated

00:15:26.640 on Capitol Hill

00:15:28.020 for what it's doing.

00:15:29.980 The problem there

00:15:31.020 is, of course,

00:15:31.780 the radical Dems,

00:15:33.180 the lost left

00:15:34.960 in this country

00:15:35.740 is aligned

00:15:37.300 more with China

00:15:38.440 than it is

00:15:39.220 with American principles.

00:15:41.100 And that is,

00:15:42.220 of course,

00:15:42.900 not only dangerous

00:15:43.780 but disgustingly so.

00:15:46.120 When you talk

00:15:46.860 about Wall Street,

00:15:47.960 corporate boards,

00:15:49.460 Walmart and Amazon,

00:15:50.480 as you pointed out,

00:15:51.860 they do see

00:15:53.120 their interests

00:15:53.880 more closely aligned

00:15:55.420 with the elite

00:15:56.340 in communist China

00:15:57.500 than they do

00:15:58.120 with their fellow Americans.

00:15:59.840 And we know this

00:16:00.740 because of what they do.

00:16:02.300 The shipping of jobs

00:16:03.660 by the tens of millions

00:16:05.140 over to China,

00:16:06.180 which has meant

00:16:07.040 the impoverishment

00:16:07.900 of Americans,

00:16:09.080 which has meant despair,

00:16:10.640 which has meant

00:16:11.160 drug addiction,

00:16:12.400 which has meant

00:16:12.900 the destruction

00:16:13.520 of communities

00:16:14.620 and the small businesses

00:16:16.080 that you talk about.

00:16:17.640 This is critical.

00:16:19.320 And in this coronavirus epidemic

00:16:21.780 that China flew,

00:16:23.500 we have seen,

00:16:24.640 because of economic forces,

00:16:26.920 small businesses

00:16:27.740 in the U.S. fail.

00:16:29.680 And they've failed

00:16:30.540 because we have

00:16:32.340 the likes of Amazon

00:16:33.320 being able to take advantage

00:16:35.100 of the situation.

00:16:36.420 So you have Amazon,

00:16:37.640 you've got Walmarts,

00:16:38.700 but you don't have

00:16:39.780 those family businesses

00:16:40.980 that built America.

00:16:44.080 It's true.

00:16:44.620 And by the way,

00:16:46.300 just an article

00:16:47.300 came out

00:16:48.060 from a former

00:16:48.740 executive director

00:16:52.520 of the Black Caucus,

00:16:55.000 Congressional Black Caucus,

00:16:56.540 talking about

00:16:57.720 illegal immigration

00:16:58.940 has crushed

00:17:00.100 Black Americans

00:17:02.140 and their job prospects

00:17:03.480 and wage prospects

00:17:04.700 over the course

00:17:06.060 of the last 30 years

00:17:07.500 because that illegal labor 0.99

00:17:09.520 has diminished wages,

00:17:11.960 diminished benefits,

00:17:13.280 and economic opportunity,

00:17:16.000 whether it be

00:17:16.540 in the creation

00:17:17.300 of a small business

00:17:18.360 or large,

00:17:19.520 for Black Americans

00:17:21.520 who otherwise

00:17:22.820 would have had

00:17:23.420 that opportunity,

00:17:24.480 those wages,

00:17:25.360 those higher wages,

00:17:26.520 and wealth.

00:17:28.420 And now,

00:17:29.000 there's a greater disparity

00:17:30.380 in income

00:17:32.860 and net worth

00:17:34.460 in this country

00:17:35.140 than would otherwise

00:17:37.600 have been the case.

00:17:38.440 And I've been talking

00:17:40.040 about this,

00:17:40.500 as you know,

00:17:40.920 for 30-some-odd years.

00:17:42.960 And finally,

00:17:43.960 some people

00:17:44.500 are starting to listen,

00:17:45.680 but it's sure

00:17:46.220 taken a lot of pain

00:17:47.600 and economic loss

00:17:49.440 for them

00:17:49.860 to appreciate

00:17:50.700 the reality

00:17:51.520 of what I was saying

00:17:52.780 30 years ago.

00:17:54.500 Yeah.

00:17:55.420 Those Americans

00:17:56.260 who are most against

00:17:57.740 this open border policy

00:17:59.260 of the Biden administration

00:18:00.300 are the poorest Americans

00:18:02.800 for the reasons

00:18:03.660 that you point out.

00:18:04.560 But, you know,

00:18:05.720 we have another couple

00:18:06.840 of critical vulnerabilities.

00:18:10.920 We have fentanyl

00:18:12.000 from China

00:18:12.700 coming across

00:18:13.480 our southern border

00:18:14.260 in record quantities.

00:18:16.160 And a country

00:18:17.560 that can't defend

00:18:18.480 its borders

00:18:19.020 doesn't have sovereignty,

00:18:20.800 as you've pointed out.

00:18:22.200 And we know

00:18:22.940 that there have been

00:18:25.200 some very disturbing cases

00:18:26.880 of people

00:18:28.240 who are wanting

00:18:30.140 to attack the U.S.

00:18:31.660 coming across

00:18:32.440 that southern border

00:18:33.500 in recent months.

00:18:35.240 So this is going

00:18:36.360 to be a terrorism issue,

00:18:37.920 especially as the Iranians

00:18:39.520 and others

00:18:40.220 take advantage

00:18:41.180 of this open

00:18:42.600 southern border.

00:18:44.760 And speaking

00:18:45.560 of the Iranians,

00:18:47.080 we're in another mess

00:18:50.500 because there is

00:18:52.560 no doubt whatsoever

00:18:53.700 that they are proceeding

00:18:54.960 quickly and profoundly

00:18:57.800 with their uranium

00:18:58.920 enrichment program,

00:19:00.080 which is to weapons grade.

00:19:01.740 we also know

00:19:03.480 that they are aligned

00:19:05.000 with communist China.

00:19:08.340 And that is being felt,

00:19:10.080 that new and stronger bond

00:19:12.580 between those two countries

00:19:13.920 is being felt strongly,

00:19:16.240 whether it be

00:19:16.840 Southeast Asia,

00:19:19.220 whether it be

00:19:20.060 the Middle East,

00:19:21.540 whether it, in fact,

00:19:22.940 be the Western Hemisphere.

00:19:26.640 Yes.

00:19:28.620 And in the last three

00:19:29.480 or four days,

00:19:30.160 the Iranian foreign minister

00:19:31.280 has actually went to Beijing

00:19:32.620 because they're talking

00:19:33.960 about their strategic

00:19:34.880 partnership deal,

00:19:35.940 which has been in existence

00:19:37.180 for a couple of years,

00:19:38.100 but was announced

00:19:38.820 only last year.

00:19:39.800 This is the deal

00:19:41.420 where China will invest

00:19:42.800 somewhere upwards

00:19:44.080 of $400 billion,

00:19:45.900 maybe a little bit less.

00:19:47.300 But also,

00:19:48.340 this involves

00:19:49.520 Chinese purchases

00:19:50.780 of Iranian oil and gas

00:19:52.840 in violation

00:19:53.760 of UN sanctions,

00:19:55.340 as well as,

00:19:56.260 I'm sure,

00:19:56.840 military cooperation,

00:19:58.280 some of which

00:19:58.740 has been announced.

00:20:00.020 Other parts of that

00:20:00.760 military cooperation,

00:20:01.900 I'm sure,

00:20:02.340 have been kept secret.

00:20:03.560 We know that

00:20:04.600 over the course of decades,

00:20:06.360 China has directed 0.96

00:20:07.900 its nuclear weapons

00:20:10.160 technology

00:20:10.820 to the Iranians

00:20:12.320 through the Pakistan

00:20:13.600 Black Market Network

00:20:15.220 of AQ Khan,

00:20:16.140 which Beijing supported.

00:20:18.180 When we look at

00:20:19.100 the Iranian nuclear weapons

00:20:20.480 program,

00:20:21.280 it really has been

00:20:22.720 aided substantially

00:20:23.980 by Beijing.

00:20:26.040 Right.

00:20:26.480 And we know

00:20:28.120 that that relationship

00:20:29.620 is likely to get

00:20:32.000 only stronger

00:20:33.280 and more difficult

00:20:34.180 for the United States

00:20:35.400 and for Europe

00:20:36.440 to contend with.

00:20:38.980 We also know

00:20:40.080 that if President Biden

00:20:41.760 talking about

00:20:42.920 climate change

00:20:44.980 is the great

00:20:46.180 national security issue,

00:20:48.260 yet he still ignores China

00:20:50.240 even on that level

00:20:51.460 because he's not saying

00:20:53.620 anything about

00:20:54.460 China's coal production

00:20:55.700 that's at record levels

00:20:57.140 as they try to

00:20:58.560 avoid an energy crisis

00:21:00.940 in their country

00:21:01.860 if they possibly can

00:21:03.680 by burning ever more coal.

00:21:05.700 And yet there's

00:21:07.080 no protest

00:21:07.840 from the organizations,

00:21:10.180 climate change organizations,

00:21:12.140 climate crisis

00:21:15.320 countries that are

00:21:17.280 focused on this mightily.

00:21:19.120 There's not a word,

00:21:20.540 not a peep from them

00:21:21.680 about what China

00:21:22.940 is doing

00:21:23.440 to their environment

00:21:24.380 and to the world's.

00:21:26.020 The last couple days,

00:21:27.580 Lou,

00:21:27.780 we learned that

00:21:28.800 China's coal output

00:21:30.100 for 2021

00:21:31.100 was up 4.7%

00:21:33.560 over the previous year.

00:21:35.500 And when we talk

00:21:36.440 about climate change,

00:21:37.980 if one says,

00:21:39.420 as Biden does,

00:21:40.460 that climate change

00:21:41.220 is the number one

00:21:41.940 national security threat,

00:21:43.420 then what he should be doing

00:21:45.540 is bringing our factories

00:21:47.440 back to this side

00:21:48.940 of the Pacific

00:21:49.520 because the transportation

00:21:51.880 of materials

00:21:53.040 to Asia

00:21:54.520 and the transportation

00:21:56.600 of finished products

00:21:57.640 from Asia

00:21:58.340 to the United States

00:21:59.560 accounts for

00:22:01.120 a very substantial portion

00:22:02.760 of the world's

00:22:03.800 carbon dioxide emissions.

00:22:05.720 15 of the largest

00:22:06.700 container ships,

00:22:07.540 it is often said,

00:22:08.940 pour as much carbon

00:22:09.980 into the air

00:22:10.940 as all the world's cars.

00:22:13.620 Now,

00:22:14.000 one can argue

00:22:14.720 about that statistic,

00:22:16.180 but the point is

00:22:17.180 that if you really believe

00:22:18.980 climate change

00:22:19.720 is the number one threat,

00:22:21.020 then we should be hearing

00:22:22.060 the President

00:22:22.640 of the United States

00:22:23.440 every single day

00:22:24.580 talking about

00:22:25.560 bringing our factories back.

00:22:26.780 And by the way,

00:22:27.760 that would solve

00:22:28.580 many of our

00:22:29.540 supply chain disruptions

00:22:31.540 which are now

00:22:32.200 resulting in

00:22:33.180 bare shelves

00:22:34.180 in the United States

00:22:35.260 as well as inflation.

00:22:37.120 Yeah,

00:22:37.240 and no one should forget

00:22:38.340 who's responsible for this.

00:22:39.940 It's easy to blame China

00:22:41.460 and they do

00:22:42.620 obviously deserve

00:22:45.940 part of that blame,

00:22:47.160 a large portion of it.

00:22:49.240 But it was,

00:22:50.080 after all,

00:22:50.900 U.S. multinationals,

00:22:52.580 U.S. corporate America,

00:22:54.700 U.S. Wall Street,

00:22:56.780 that decided

00:22:58.480 it'd be just a grand idea

00:22:59.960 to shift those expensive

00:23:01.380 to corporations,

00:23:03.960 middle-class jobs

00:23:05.000 from the United States

00:23:06.220 and leave millions

00:23:08.120 of Americans jobless

00:23:09.520 and put those jobs 0.82

00:23:10.560 in cheap foreign labor markets

00:23:12.480 to put our production

00:23:14.100 in cheap foreign labor markets,

00:23:16.360 cheap markets

00:23:17.540 that didn't have

00:23:18.660 environmental controls

00:23:20.880 and regulations

00:23:22.280 that had no labor

00:23:24.880 restrictions whatsoever.

00:23:26.780 So what we have,

00:23:28.480 what we sowed

00:23:30.240 30 to 40 years ago

00:23:32.400 is now paying off

00:23:33.920 in something called,

00:23:35.000 so quaintly,

00:23:36.380 supply chain disruption.

00:23:38.420 It is,

00:23:39.320 this contraption

00:23:41.400 is, frankly,

00:23:43.240 collapsing around us.

00:23:44.900 And the CEOs

00:23:46.440 of the companies,

00:23:48.040 the U.S. Chamber of Commerce,

00:23:49.240 the Business Roundtable,

00:23:50.380 the Business Lobby,

00:23:51.660 Wall Street,

00:23:52.240 all deserve

00:23:53.000 most of the blame

00:23:54.720 for everything

00:23:55.420 that this country

00:23:56.300 is experiencing

00:23:57.040 right now.

00:23:58.540 Yeah,

00:23:59.140 this is greed

00:23:59.900 over patriotism.

00:24:01.440 This is greed

00:24:02.380 over the welfare

00:24:03.120 of fellow Americans.

00:24:04.660 We absolutely

00:24:05.500 have to reverse this.

00:24:07.080 You've been talking

00:24:07.700 about this

00:24:08.260 for decades,

00:24:09.260 and now people

00:24:10.920 are listening

00:24:11.800 because it's so obvious

00:24:13.580 that everything

00:24:14.620 you said,

00:24:15.260 Lou,

00:24:15.400 about this

00:24:16.040 was 100% correct.

00:24:18.400 Well,

00:24:19.140 you know,

00:24:19.680 and there hasn't

00:24:20.260 been a moment

00:24:21.180 when I was speaking

00:24:22.980 to these issues

00:24:23.940 that I wasn't hoping

00:24:26.060 that I was wrong.

00:24:28.580 It's just,

00:24:29.560 the pain

00:24:30.540 that it's caused

00:24:31.140 this country,

00:24:31.820 the economic loss

00:24:32.840 that it's caused

00:24:34.140 this country

00:24:35.240 is deep,

00:24:36.940 it's profound,

00:24:37.840 and we hope

00:24:38.740 can be overcome

00:24:39.600 in the next,

00:24:41.080 in the next decade,

00:24:42.580 perhaps.

00:24:43.420 But we have to

00:24:44.340 turn our minds

00:24:45.100 to it.

00:24:46.220 Let's turn

00:24:47.260 to Hong Kong,

00:24:48.740 flight attendants

00:24:50.360 being blamed

00:24:51.060 for bringing

00:24:51.580 the Wuhan virus

00:24:53.660 variant

00:24:54.440 to Hong Kong

00:24:55.860 and a police

00:24:57.340 action taken.

00:24:58.660 We're watching

00:24:59.380 quite a different

00:25:00.080 Hong Kong now

00:25:01.100 that there's

00:25:01.880 no veil around it,

00:25:03.580 there is no

00:25:04.260 fiction about

00:25:05.820 two systems

00:25:06.780 now that Beijing

00:25:08.260 is in control,

00:25:09.960 right?

00:25:11.120 Absolutely.

00:25:12.440 In 1984,

00:25:13.600 China agreed 0.88

00:25:15.880 to provide,

00:25:17.080 to allow

00:25:17.620 50 years

00:25:19.160 of a high

00:25:19.680 degree of

00:25:20.200 autonomy

00:25:20.660 in Hong Kong

00:25:21.580 under the

00:25:22.520 one country,

00:25:23.080 two systems

00:25:23.540 formula.

00:25:24.020 That was to start

00:25:25.080 on July 1st,

00:25:26.000 1997,

00:25:26.660 when Britain,

00:25:28.040 as they said,

00:25:28.820 handed over

00:25:29.460 Hong Kong

00:25:30.200 to Beijing.

00:25:32.240 And with the

00:25:33.420 adoption of the

00:25:34.220 national security

00:25:34.920 law on June 30,

00:25:36.520 2020,

00:25:37.040 we have seen

00:25:38.300 Beijing

00:25:38.920 basically take

00:25:41.040 over Hong Kong

00:25:41.840 and eliminate

00:25:43.120 all forms

00:25:44.460 of autonomy.

00:25:45.500 We have seen

00:25:46.240 the jailing

00:25:46.940 of Jimmy Lai,

00:25:48.300 the founder

00:25:49.180 of Apple Daily,

00:25:50.140 which is Hong Kong's

00:25:51.000 main newspaper.

00:25:52.320 And now,

00:25:52.980 in the last couple

00:25:53.680 of weeks,

00:25:54.540 independent news

00:25:55.360 sites,

00:25:56.200 Citizen News

00:25:56.780 and Stand News

00:25:57.660 have been

00:25:58.520 shut down.

00:26:00.480 This is really

00:26:01.480 the end of Hong Kong

00:26:02.740 as we know it.

00:26:04.360 People,

00:26:05.120 both expatriates

00:26:06.860 and Hong Kong

00:26:07.840 Chinese are

00:26:09.080 leaving.

00:26:10.240 And this is

00:26:11.060 really a lesson

00:26:12.600 of the value

00:26:14.000 of the word

00:26:14.640 of Beijing.

00:26:16.040 You can't trust it.

00:26:17.620 And this is important.

00:26:18.780 It goes well

00:26:19.480 beyond Hong Kong,

00:26:20.260 as you know,

00:26:20.960 because we've got

00:26:21.620 a president

00:26:22.120 in the United States

00:26:22.900 right now

00:26:23.380 who wants a

00:26:23.900 climate change

00:26:24.440 agreement

00:26:24.860 with China.

00:26:27.360 And whatever

00:26:28.200 one thinks

00:26:28.720 of climate change,

00:26:29.860 if you want

00:26:30.600 to clean

00:26:30.940 the environment,

00:26:31.760 the last thing

00:26:32.340 you do is

00:26:32.960 you come to

00:26:33.420 an agreement

00:26:33.920 with Beijing

00:26:34.680 because Beijing

00:26:35.660 will not honor it.

00:26:36.860 as we've seen,

00:26:37.840 for instance,

00:26:38.320 with this output

00:26:39.200 in coal

00:26:39.980 up 4.7%

00:26:41.580 last year.

00:26:43.140 I think the American

00:26:43.980 people are coming

00:26:44.860 to terms.

00:26:45.520 And by the way,

00:26:46.780 when I say

00:26:47.260 American people,

00:26:48.080 I mean,

00:26:48.860 including the radical

00:26:50.580 dams,

00:26:51.140 even the lost

00:26:51.920 left in this country

00:26:53.000 is now cognizant

00:26:55.020 of the limitations

00:26:56.980 of this president

00:26:58.140 and the inadequacy

00:27:00.060 of the people

00:27:00.620 that he's brought

00:27:01.320 with him

00:27:01.860 to Washington,

00:27:03.020 D.C.,

00:27:03.620 no matter how

00:27:04.820 strongly

00:27:05.640 and compellingly

00:27:07.640 they feel

00:27:09.160 they should be

00:27:09.800 supporting him,

00:27:10.820 they understand.

00:27:12.180 And I think,

00:27:12.980 as I said,

00:27:13.680 most Americans

00:27:14.380 understand this

00:27:15.760 president has

00:27:16.980 no business

00:27:17.600 authoring any

00:27:18.500 initiative,

00:27:19.260 authoring any

00:27:19.920 legislation,

00:27:21.300 authoring any,

00:27:22.460 any significant

00:27:24.160 step on the part

00:27:26.100 of the federal

00:27:26.540 government.

00:27:27.160 He was elected

00:27:28.560 to be not,

00:27:29.660 he was not

00:27:30.280 elected with a mandate.

00:27:31.260 He was elected

00:27:32.040 with a clear

00:27:33.580 expectation

00:27:34.120 that he would

00:27:34.800 be a placeholder,

00:27:36.160 a transitional

00:27:37.200 president,

00:27:38.080 and it is time

00:27:39.300 for him to

00:27:39.960 chirp down,

00:27:41.300 not up.

00:27:42.620 It is time

00:27:43.340 for him

00:27:43.880 to take it easy

00:27:45.360 in the White House

00:27:46.180 and relax.

00:27:47.280 And it is time

00:27:48.240 for the left

00:27:48.980 and the cartel

00:27:50.340 of the far left

00:27:51.320 that controls

00:27:52.040 this presidency

00:27:52.940 to simply stand

00:27:55.200 down,

00:27:55.880 because the American

00:27:56.640 people are going

00:27:57.340 to put up with it.

00:27:58.360 More than half

00:27:59.120 the people think

00:27:59.860 that he has

00:28:01.260 his country

00:28:01.700 in the wrong

00:28:02.180 direction

00:28:02.640 on nearly every

00:28:03.620 major issue,

00:28:07.360 but nearly every

00:28:08.160 issue period

00:28:08.920 in this country.

00:28:10.260 So I don't think

00:28:11.540 we're going to see

00:28:12.320 much more from him,

00:28:13.760 nor for that matter

00:28:14.740 from Schumer

00:28:15.620 and from Pelosi,

00:28:18.060 because he is

00:28:19.320 obviously incapable

00:28:21.640 of leading the country.

00:28:23.740 This last speech

00:28:24.640 was a disgusting

00:28:26.360 assassination attempt

00:28:29.120 against conservatives

00:28:31.120 and moderates

00:28:32.140 and Republicans

00:28:33.700 and anyone

00:28:35.540 who is not

00:28:36.600 on the extreme

00:28:37.800 left of the

00:28:38.460 Democratic Party.

00:28:39.580 Your thoughts?

00:28:41.320 When I think

00:28:42.620 about Biden,

00:28:43.480 I think about

00:28:44.520 his responsibilities

00:28:45.480 to protect

00:28:46.120 the American people

00:28:47.060 from an obvious

00:28:48.800 Chinese enemy.

00:28:51.580 Biden did not

00:28:52.980 raise the issue

00:28:53.840 of the origins

00:28:54.580 of COVID-19

00:28:55.520 during his two-hour

00:28:56.660 phone call

00:28:57.380 in February

00:28:58.000 of last year

00:28:58.700 when he spoke

00:28:59.280 to Xi Jinping.

00:29:00.560 He didn't raise it

00:29:01.480 in his November

00:29:02.160 virtual meeting

00:29:02.960 with Xi Jinping.

00:29:04.160 He probably

00:29:05.200 didn't raise it

00:29:06.040 during his 90-minute

00:29:06.940 phone call

00:29:07.600 last September

00:29:08.260 with Xi Jinping.

00:29:09.720 We're talking

00:29:10.520 about the deaths

00:29:11.300 of over 850,000

00:29:13.140 Americans, Lou.

00:29:15.000 And Biden's

00:29:16.420 highest,

00:29:17.220 most solemn

00:29:18.040 responsibility

00:29:18.740 is to defend

00:29:19.860 the American people

00:29:20.880 from foreign attack.

00:29:22.580 China attacked 0.99

00:29:23.600 the American people,

00:29:24.640 took 850,000

00:29:26.840 Americans

00:29:27.560 from us

00:29:28.200 and Biden

00:29:29.120 doesn't raise

00:29:30.000 the issue

00:29:30.560 with Xi Jinping

00:29:31.700 at all.

00:29:32.380 This is a dereliction

00:29:33.420 of duty.

00:29:34.500 And for this reason

00:29:35.260 alone,

00:29:35.840 plus the other reasons

00:29:36.880 that you talk about,

00:29:38.160 but for this reason

00:29:39.140 alone,

00:29:40.140 he should not

00:29:41.200 be president

00:29:41.780 of the United States.

00:29:42.680 If he doesn't

00:29:43.020 want to defend us,

00:29:43.840 that's fine.

00:29:44.840 But he should

00:29:45.420 make sure

00:29:46.000 that he's not

00:29:46.980 inhibiting

00:29:47.740 us from

00:29:50.180 protecting ourselves.

00:29:51.120 The weakness

00:29:53.340 and the vulnerabilities

00:29:54.460 of the United States

00:29:56.280 right now

00:29:56.820 and its national

00:29:57.400 security team,

00:29:58.320 its commander-in-chief

00:29:59.320 are so manifest,

00:30:03.220 so obvious

00:30:04.340 to world leaders,

00:30:05.840 but particularly

00:30:06.380 to Putin,

00:30:07.560 to Xi,

00:30:08.600 that it is

00:30:09.240 a very dangerous,

00:30:11.200 difficult period

00:30:11.880 for the United States

00:30:13.000 as we try

00:30:14.540 to get through

00:30:15.200 this period

00:30:15.820 where we are

00:30:16.580 without question

00:30:17.460 leaderless.

00:30:18.600 We are

00:30:19.280 without question

00:30:20.380 in an extremely,

00:30:22.800 extremely

00:30:23.460 dangerous position.

00:30:25.900 We always conclude,

00:30:28.040 as you know,

00:30:28.660 Gordon,

00:30:29.060 with our guest's

00:30:31.000 final word.

00:30:32.180 You get the final word

00:30:33.100 always on this show.

00:30:34.820 We appreciate

00:30:35.700 you being with us.

00:30:36.740 Your thoughts?

00:30:38.940 Lou,

00:30:39.980 China declared 0.75

00:30:41.020 a people's war,

00:30:42.020 quote-unquote,

00:30:42.660 on the U.S.

00:30:43.400 in May 2019,

00:30:44.600 and we have

00:30:46.000 a political establishment,

00:30:47.720 which is

00:30:48.260 Wall Street,

00:30:49.300 the corporate boards,

00:30:50.380 and Washington,

00:30:53.500 which doesn't

00:30:54.840 understand the

00:30:55.520 maliciousness

00:30:56.220 of the regime.

00:30:57.680 You,

00:30:58.180 from the very beginning,

00:30:59.280 have talked about

00:31:00.280 China in blunt terms.

00:31:02.560 You were the one,

00:31:03.340 you were the only one

00:31:04.520 talking about

00:31:05.320 red China,

00:31:06.460 and now

00:31:07.520 the American people

00:31:08.780 are coming around.

00:31:10.520 But, you know,

00:31:11.160 Lou,

00:31:11.580 we are at risk.

00:31:13.140 We are a far

00:31:13.820 stronger country

00:31:14.560 than China,

00:31:15.240 but if we don't

00:31:16.040 defend ourselves,

00:31:16.960 we are going to

00:31:17.980 lose our republic.

00:31:19.380 So, Lou,

00:31:19.840 thank you so much

00:31:20.780 for all that you've

00:31:21.860 done in protecting

00:31:23.100 our great America.

00:31:25.720 Well, Gordon,

00:31:26.340 that's kind of you,

00:31:27.260 and I thank you

00:31:28.680 for everything

00:31:29.360 that you do

00:31:30.120 for this country.

00:31:31.760 And we will

00:31:33.000 stay in the fight,

00:31:33.900 my friend.

00:31:34.560 That's all we can do.

00:31:36.260 Gordon Chang,

00:31:37.120 thanks for being with us.

00:31:38.340 We appreciate it.

00:31:39.220 Look forward

00:31:39.580 to seeing you next time.

00:31:40.800 We're still

00:31:42.440 hearing a lot

00:31:43.360 about how much

00:31:43.980 you enjoyed

00:31:44.500 our interview

00:31:45.000 with President Trump,

00:31:46.360 and I can tell you

00:31:47.720 I certainly enjoyed

00:31:48.760 it immensely.

00:31:50.080 Simply put,

00:31:51.220 Mr. Trump

00:31:51.780 is the president

00:31:52.740 who never quits

00:31:53.540 working for working

00:31:54.820 men and women

00:31:55.480 for small business

00:31:57.360 folks in this country,

00:31:58.620 and he's still

00:31:59.540 putting America first 0.85

00:32:00.780 in every way.

00:32:02.420 And man,

00:32:03.240 do I miss

00:32:04.240 our greatest president.

00:32:05.500 I know you do

00:32:06.240 as well.

00:32:07.340 Just think how differently

00:32:08.480 we'd be looking

00:32:09.340 at the world right now

00:32:10.520 were he in the White House

00:32:12.320 instead of Mr. Joe Danger.

00:32:15.160 Biden is a one-man

00:32:16.840 national security threat.

00:32:18.580 He is truly dangerous

00:32:19.980 to have in the Oval Office.

00:32:22.800 And if you haven't heard

00:32:24.060 our talk with President Trump,

00:32:25.900 just check out

00:32:26.520 our podcast list

00:32:27.660 and click on

00:32:28.820 President Trump

00:32:29.680 on Biden's blunders,

00:32:31.300 rhinos, and winning.

00:32:33.000 President Trump

00:32:33.800 left office,

00:32:34.800 as you well know,

00:32:35.880 having made huge progress

00:32:37.220 in securing

00:32:37.900 our borders,

00:32:39.160 I've often said

00:32:40.440 that no president

00:32:41.700 in four years

00:32:43.240 has done more

00:32:44.320 than President Trump.

00:32:46.580 I still believe that.

00:32:48.640 Building much

00:32:50.280 of the promised wall,

00:32:51.600 despite the fierce

00:32:52.680 and subversive opposition

00:32:54.660 of the radical Dems,

00:32:56.380 is no small achievement.

00:32:59.360 Fighting the rhinos

00:33:00.700 and his own party,

00:33:01.820 the deep state,

00:33:02.640 and the cartels,

00:33:03.540 of course.

00:33:04.020 No one likes to mention

00:33:04.980 the cartels

00:33:05.800 when we talk about

00:33:07.320 the corruption

00:33:08.840 on the border.

00:33:10.180 It is, believe me,

00:33:11.200 on both sides

00:33:12.080 of that border.

00:33:13.400 The situation

00:33:14.100 on our southern border

00:33:15.140 is quite different

00:33:16.360 after only one year

00:33:17.740 of President Biden

00:33:18.880 and his betrayal

00:33:20.340 of our national sovereignty.

00:33:22.300 Biden's complete sellout

00:33:24.120 to corporate America,

00:33:25.480 his bended knee

00:33:26.580 to the cartels

00:33:27.660 who are carrying on

00:33:29.260 their sex trafficking

00:33:30.440 and smuggling

00:33:31.280 of illegal immigrants 0.94

00:33:32.360 and deadly drugs

00:33:33.360 across that border

00:33:34.320 in never-before-seen numbers

00:33:36.760 and quantities.

00:33:38.560 Our national sovereignty

00:33:39.780 obviously means nothing

00:33:41.420 to the Biden administration

00:33:42.960 nor the safety

00:33:44.320 and security

00:33:45.300 of the American people.

00:33:48.140 Former Customs

00:33:49.520 and Border Protection

00:33:50.340 Commissioner Mark Morgan,

00:33:52.040 just to give you a sense

00:33:53.020 of how bad it is,

00:33:54.720 says three million

00:33:55.780 illegal immigrants

00:33:56.940 have tried to cross

00:33:57.940 that border

00:33:58.460 in the first year

00:34:00.160 of the Biden administration

00:34:01.780 and there has been

00:34:03.140 no sign

00:34:03.880 of any easing.

00:34:06.040 We are obviously

00:34:07.360 a nation in distress

00:34:08.760 on many fronts,

00:34:09.780 obviously, as well.

00:34:11.420 Whether it's

00:34:12.080 our open borders,

00:34:13.100 our runaway

00:34:13.600 illegal immigration,

00:34:14.900 unstoppable sex trafficking,

00:34:16.860 massive drug overdose deaths,

00:34:18.980 or runaway levels

00:34:20.380 of violent crime

00:34:21.900 in our major cities,

00:34:23.280 the border,

00:34:23.920 the border plays

00:34:25.400 a fundamental part

00:34:26.720 in it all.

00:34:27.560 To take up this crisis

00:34:29.600 we have with us today

00:34:30.900 a good friend,

00:34:33.640 an old friend,

00:34:34.460 Jessica Vaughn.

00:34:35.500 She's the Director

00:34:36.320 of Policy Studies

00:34:37.400 at the Center

00:34:38.040 for Immigration Studies.

00:34:39.900 Jessica,

00:34:40.860 great to have you with us.

00:34:42.200 Thanks for being here.

00:34:44.060 Thanks so much, Lou.

00:34:44.980 I'm delighted

00:34:45.460 to be talking with you.

00:34:47.020 You know,

00:34:47.320 as we go through

00:34:48.340 the litany

00:34:49.880 of issues

00:34:51.280 that are fundamentally

00:34:52.880 about that border

00:34:54.740 being wide open,

00:34:56.620 illegal immigration

00:34:57.540 un-checked,

00:35:00.360 not even slowed down

00:35:01.660 in point of fact.

00:35:03.360 It's really stunning

00:35:04.800 that no one wants

00:35:06.080 to think,

00:35:06.860 in my judgment,

00:35:08.160 about the corruption

00:35:09.560 that has to exist

00:35:10.700 on both sides

00:35:12.100 of that border,

00:35:13.500 in the states

00:35:14.720 that border Mexico,

00:35:16.700 and, of course,

00:35:17.760 in the northern states

00:35:18.880 of Mexico.

00:35:20.000 Your thoughts

00:35:21.480 about the current

00:35:22.380 crisis?

00:35:24.080 Well,

00:35:24.940 we have witnessed

00:35:26.160 the fastest

00:35:27.400 controlled collapse

00:35:28.580 of border security

00:35:29.440 in American history

00:35:30.980 in the 12 months

00:35:33.260 that Joe Biden

00:35:33.980 has been president,

00:35:34.740 and we're going

00:35:35.920 to be paying

00:35:36.380 the price for it

00:35:37.300 for decades to come

00:35:38.740 in so many ways.

00:35:40.620 in the resettlement

00:35:43.020 of all of these

00:35:44.220 illegal aliens

00:35:45.240 into the country,

00:35:46.500 the enormous costs

00:35:47.720 for states,

00:35:49.000 the cost

00:35:49.560 in public safety,

00:35:51.420 especially from

00:35:52.700 the million

00:35:53.940 or more

00:35:54.420 gotaways

00:35:55.080 who've come through

00:35:55.880 that we have

00:35:56.300 no idea

00:35:57.040 who they are,

00:35:58.040 whether they're

00:35:58.720 terrorists, 0.70

00:35:59.440 criminals, 0.62

00:35:59.760 or whatever,

00:36:00.500 and in the strengthening

00:36:02.440 of the

00:36:03.740 transnational

00:36:04.900 criminal enterprises

00:36:06.440 that are facilitating

00:36:08.620 and managing

00:36:09.760 and profiting

00:36:11.100 off

00:36:11.660 these Biden

00:36:13.560 policies

00:36:14.080 that have opened

00:36:14.800 up our border.

00:36:15.880 They are just

00:36:16.940 getting stronger

00:36:17.740 and stronger,

00:36:18.540 and they're going

00:36:19.620 to fight like

00:36:20.860 heck to hold

00:36:21.860 on to

00:36:22.580 this lucrative

00:36:23.940 business.

00:36:25.560 And they can...

00:36:26.300 Who is they?

00:36:26.940 I think we really

00:36:27.620 need to name names

00:36:28.640 here.

00:36:29.520 Who is the

00:36:30.520 they

00:36:31.120 that are

00:36:33.240 profiting

00:36:33.920 from these

00:36:35.320 overdose

00:36:35.780 deaths

00:36:36.820 from the

00:36:38.020 addiction

00:36:38.500 that results

00:36:39.280 from the

00:36:39.860 majority

00:36:40.480 of the

00:36:41.380 major

00:36:41.980 deadly

00:36:42.500 drugs

00:36:43.000 that

00:36:43.220 cross

00:36:43.500 that

00:36:43.740 border

00:36:44.060 every year?

00:36:45.840 Without

00:36:46.380 that border

00:36:47.180 being wide

00:36:48.220 open,

00:36:49.000 at least

00:36:49.820 the majority

00:36:50.640 of drugs

00:36:51.200 being brought

00:36:52.060 into this

00:36:52.600 country

00:36:53.000 would be

00:36:53.840 stopped.

00:36:54.920 Who is it

00:36:55.900 that's profiting?

00:36:57.420 It's the

00:36:58.400 several

00:36:59.040 transnational

00:36:59.860 cartels

00:37:00.920 that run

00:37:01.840 Mexico

00:37:02.300 and the

00:37:03.260 politicians

00:37:03.760 and a lot

00:37:04.840 of the law

00:37:05.240 enforcement

00:37:05.640 agencies

00:37:06.200 there,

00:37:06.620 whether it's

00:37:07.140 Sinaloa

00:37:07.660 or the

00:37:08.040 Gulf

00:37:08.280 cartel

00:37:08.920 or the

00:37:09.300 ones that

00:37:10.380 splinter

00:37:10.820 off,

00:37:11.280 they all

00:37:11.660 have a

00:37:12.140 piece of

00:37:12.840 the territory

00:37:13.620 that is next

00:37:14.740 to the

00:37:15.060 border and

00:37:16.400 the smugglers

00:37:17.880 have to pay

00:37:18.760 them for the

00:37:20.380 privilege to

00:37:21.340 bring people

00:37:22.060 through.

00:37:22.620 Nobody crosses

00:37:23.360 on their own.

00:37:24.120 You can't just

00:37:24.560 wake up and

00:37:25.200 say, I think

00:37:25.580 I'll walk

00:37:26.000 across the

00:37:26.480 border today.

00:37:27.320 You have to

00:37:28.140 pay a smuggler

00:37:28.960 who is paying

00:37:29.840 a cartel for

00:37:30.700 that plaza,

00:37:31.760 that territory

00:37:32.540 next to the

00:37:33.500 border.

00:37:33.780 But you

00:37:34.500 know, there

00:37:34.940 are also

00:37:35.780 people on

00:37:36.460 the U.S.

00:37:37.000 side profiting

00:37:37.760 as well.

00:37:39.100 Yes, I do

00:37:39.640 know.

00:37:40.300 Whether it's

00:37:41.740 the kids

00:37:43.140 who are

00:37:43.420 getting paid

00:37:44.080 by the

00:37:44.500 smugglers

00:37:45.020 to bring

00:37:45.600 people across

00:37:46.400 in their

00:37:46.740 cars or

00:37:47.340 transport them

00:37:48.140 on the

00:37:48.360 other side

00:37:48.760 of the

00:37:48.980 border,

00:37:49.220 or whether

00:37:49.920 it's the

00:37:50.340 NGOs

00:37:50.840 that are

00:37:51.840 getting

00:37:52.180 huge

00:37:52.940 contracts

00:37:53.680 from the

00:37:54.580 federal

00:37:54.840 government

00:37:55.420 to

00:37:56.100 transport

00:37:56.920 and

00:37:57.680 counsel

00:37:58.380 and

00:37:59.420 relocate

00:38:00.600 all of

00:38:01.080 these

00:38:01.440 illegal

00:38:01.920 border

00:38:02.260 crossers

00:38:02.880 who are

00:38:03.220 getting

00:38:03.480 resettled

00:38:04.040 into

00:38:04.320 American

00:38:04.760 communities

00:38:05.480 by the

00:38:06.940 Biden

00:38:07.220 administration.

00:38:08.240 They're paying

00:38:09.000 people, you

00:38:09.700 know, to

00:38:10.120 bring them

00:38:10.560 by planes,

00:38:11.360 trains,

00:38:11.780 automobiles,

00:38:12.740 charter bus,

00:38:14.080 you name it.

00:38:15.360 That's how

00:38:15.800 they're getting

00:38:16.560 around to

00:38:17.580 different parts

00:38:18.080 of the

00:38:18.300 country.

00:38:18.620 And you

00:38:19.700 said the

00:38:21.620 real, I

00:38:23.940 think, the

00:38:24.400 touchstone,

00:38:26.120 those NGOs

00:38:27.300 that are

00:38:28.020 operating on

00:38:29.280 both sides

00:38:29.820 of the

00:38:30.120 border under

00:38:31.340 the pretext

00:38:32.760 of being

00:38:33.460 accommodating

00:38:34.540 humane

00:38:36.040 organizations

00:38:38.260 only there

00:38:39.340 to be

00:38:39.740 helpful to

00:38:40.480 those who

00:38:41.000 might need

00:38:42.740 be troubled

00:38:44.340 or need

00:38:45.420 medical

00:38:45.780 attention,

00:38:46.340 the NGOs,

00:38:47.220 the non-government

00:38:48.600 organizations.

00:38:50.300 These NGOs

00:38:51.240 are running

00:38:52.400 what the

00:38:53.340 cartels

00:38:54.020 aren't.

00:38:54.920 Is that a

00:38:55.300 fair statement?

00:38:56.900 Well,

00:38:57.240 absolutely.

00:38:58.400 And they

00:38:59.200 are

00:38:59.820 incentivizing

00:39:01.020 the migrants 0.88

00:39:01.680 to come

00:39:02.060 take advantage

00:39:02.780 of this

00:39:03.240 criminal

00:39:03.560 infrastructure.

00:39:04.960 The UN

00:39:05.660 is paying

00:39:06.320 organizations

00:39:07.040 to hand

00:39:07.800 out cash

00:39:08.980 cards in

00:39:10.200 southern

00:39:10.920 Mexico and

00:39:11.820 northern

00:39:12.160 Mexico to

00:39:13.380 support these

00:39:14.140 migrants on 0.99

00:39:14.820 their journey.

00:39:15.580 They're

00:39:15.960 counseling

00:39:16.440 them on

00:39:17.280 how to

00:39:18.320 make a

00:39:19.860 false

00:39:20.180 asylum

00:39:20.760 claim.

00:39:21.920 They're

00:39:22.460 organizing

00:39:23.880 buses to

00:39:25.740 bring them

00:39:26.320 from southern

00:39:27.180 Mexico to

00:39:27.980 northern

00:39:28.400 Mexico.

00:39:29.640 They run

00:39:30.260 shelters in

00:39:31.400 the border

00:39:31.880 towns to

00:39:32.860 house people

00:39:33.680 until the

00:39:34.860 smuggler that

00:39:35.700 they're paying

00:39:36.240 can organize

00:39:37.440 their crossing.

00:39:38.740 They are

00:39:39.700 deeply into

00:39:41.100 this game.

00:39:43.580 And, you

00:39:43.760 know, talk

00:39:44.560 about the

00:39:46.200 morality of

00:39:46.960 all of

00:39:47.280 this.

00:39:47.560 I think

00:39:48.340 there's

00:39:48.560 nothing more

00:39:49.180 immoral than

00:39:50.140 having

00:39:50.520 policies that

00:39:51.640 enable these

00:39:53.420 criminal

00:39:53.920 organizations and

00:39:55.280 others to

00:39:55.860 make a

00:39:56.180 profit off

00:39:57.120 of people

00:39:59.120 who've been

00:40:00.240 incentivized to

00:40:02.340 come to the

00:40:02.820 border, who've

00:40:03.220 turned over

00:40:03.640 their life

00:40:04.080 savings to a

00:40:04.880 criminal

00:40:05.160 smuggling

00:40:05.560 organization to

00:40:06.600 try to get

00:40:07.180 here to take

00:40:08.340 advantage of

00:40:09.200 the Biden

00:40:09.600 policies.

00:40:10.240 That's

00:40:10.680 immoral to

00:40:11.340 have people

00:40:11.880 putting

00:40:12.680 themselves in

00:40:13.520 danger and

00:40:14.300 taking advantage

00:40:14.960 and trying to

00:40:16.480 do this, putting

00:40:16.980 their kids into

00:40:18.140 the hands of

00:40:18.820 smugglers to

00:40:19.900 come here.

00:40:20.680 Is it

00:40:21.180 immoral,

00:40:22.380 Jessica, for

00:40:23.700 the national

00:40:24.420 corporate media

00:40:25.660 to be in

00:40:27.460 complicity with

00:40:28.640 the Biden

00:40:29.120 administration,

00:40:30.140 with corporate

00:40:30.820 America that

00:40:32.220 encourages these

00:40:33.280 open border,

00:40:34.920 wide open

00:40:36.720 legal immigration?

00:40:39.780 Is it

00:40:40.300 immoral for

00:40:41.160 a national

00:40:42.140 media that

00:40:42.680 ignores the

00:40:43.640 terrific human

00:40:45.000 toll that

00:40:46.500 is paid

00:40:47.320 every day

00:40:48.200 because of

00:40:48.840 those drugs,

00:40:49.620 because of

00:40:50.500 what these

00:40:52.360 illegal immigrants

00:40:53.600 are actually

00:40:54.280 doing to

00:40:55.760 our wages

00:40:56.600 for

00:40:57.620 Americans,

00:40:58.960 hardworking

00:40:59.520 Americans,

00:41:00.280 often the

00:41:01.360 most low

00:41:02.280 paid Americans

00:41:03.700 in the labor

00:41:04.820 force?

00:41:05.840 It is

00:41:06.500 immoral for

00:41:07.560 them to take

00:41:08.240 part in this

00:41:09.060 big lie of

00:41:10.240 characterizing

00:41:11.160 this as

00:41:11.800 some kind

00:41:12.260 of a

00:41:12.600 humanitarian

00:41:13.200 crisis,

00:41:14.940 of turning

00:41:17.060 their backs

00:41:17.700 on the

00:41:18.840 Americans who

00:41:19.600 are harmed

00:41:20.120 by these

00:41:21.060 policies,

00:41:21.680 as you

00:41:22.020 said,

00:41:22.940 and

00:41:23.240 participating

00:41:24.100 in this

00:41:25.880 attempt to

00:41:28.500 dupe

00:41:29.300 Americans

00:41:29.940 into thinking

00:41:31.120 this is

00:41:31.760 something that

00:41:32.360 it isn't,

00:41:32.900 and acting

00:41:33.260 like this is

00:41:33.800 a force of

00:41:34.420 nature,

00:41:34.840 when it's

00:41:35.620 actually a

00:41:36.320 predictable

00:41:36.760 outcome of

00:41:37.700 deliberate

00:41:38.500 policy choices

00:41:39.660 that the

00:41:40.080 Biden

00:41:40.280 administration

00:41:40.820 has made,

00:41:42.480 and knowing

00:41:44.060 that they are

00:41:44.760 going to reap

00:41:45.300 certain benefits

00:41:46.120 from it

00:41:46.740 politically,

00:41:47.700 and even

00:41:48.880 financially.

00:41:50.060 You and I

00:41:50.860 have been

00:41:51.080 talking about

00:41:51.980 these issues

00:41:53.560 for decades,

00:41:55.280 and I would

00:41:57.880 like to

00:41:58.480 just,

00:41:59.340 everybody to

00:42:00.020 focus on

00:42:00.680 some realities

00:42:01.880 here.

00:42:02.620 You talked

00:42:03.480 about this

00:42:04.060 crisis, but

00:42:05.020 it's a crisis

00:42:05.660 of our

00:42:06.560 making.

00:42:07.280 It's a

00:42:07.920 crisis of

00:42:09.100 our making

00:42:09.620 because our

00:42:10.580 taxpayer money

00:42:11.480 goes to

00:42:12.040 those NGOs

00:42:12.900 who are

00:42:14.400 supporting

00:42:15.040 criminal

00:42:15.540 enterprises,

00:42:16.580 and transnational

00:42:18.340 cartels, as

00:42:20.240 you put it,

00:42:20.660 the Mexican

00:42:21.140 drug cartels,

00:42:22.220 is what we're

00:42:22.640 talking about.

00:42:24.040 They have

00:42:25.000 relationships and

00:42:26.720 networks with

00:42:27.780 the Chinese

00:42:28.900 triads as

00:42:30.340 well, and

00:42:30.900 that's where

00:42:31.280 most of the

00:42:32.320 fentanyl is

00:42:33.380 trafficked,

00:42:33.900 from China

00:42:34.640 to Mexico,

00:42:36.400 into the

00:42:36.900 United States,

00:42:38.040 and the

00:42:38.340 result are

00:42:39.200 at least

00:42:39.580 100,000

00:42:40.580 overdose deaths

00:42:41.480 every year,

00:42:43.180 killing Americans 0.99

00:42:44.120 without comment,

00:42:45.440 and the fact

00:42:46.020 of the matter

00:42:46.480 is the

00:42:47.300 Democrats know

00:42:48.120 it, the

00:42:48.460 Republicans

00:42:49.000 know it,

00:42:50.400 guess what?

00:42:51.360 Every mayor,

00:42:52.960 every governor

00:42:53.860 in this country

00:42:54.820 knows it,

00:42:55.640 and they

00:42:56.240 are, well,

00:42:57.420 with great

00:42:58.260 exceptions,

00:42:59.080 including the

00:43:00.280 state of

00:43:00.680 Texas, the

00:43:01.940 state of

00:43:02.400 Florida, where

00:43:03.720 they are

00:43:04.260 making every

00:43:05.140 effort to

00:43:06.100 try to

00:43:07.160 stem the

00:43:08.400 flood of

00:43:10.260 illegal

00:43:10.600 immigration,

00:43:11.760 sex trafficking,

00:43:12.460 and deadly

00:43:13.200 drugs across

00:43:14.100 that border

00:43:14.680 and into

00:43:15.180 their states,

00:43:16.440 right?

00:43:17.580 Absolutely

00:43:18.140 right, and

00:43:19.340 it goes

00:43:20.020 further than

00:43:20.620 a lot of

00:43:20.940 people realize.

00:43:21.880 I sat at

00:43:22.520 a hearing a

00:43:23.680 few months

00:43:24.120 ago put on

00:43:25.620 by Senate

00:43:26.080 Republicans and

00:43:26.920 listened to a

00:43:27.660 mother of a

00:43:29.700 young woman who

00:43:30.540 had overdosed

00:43:31.660 on fentanyl

00:43:34.120 that had

00:43:34.860 been cut

00:43:35.400 into ordinary

00:43:36.820 sort of

00:43:37.780 recreational

00:43:38.320 street drugs

00:43:39.280 that are

00:43:39.680 marketed to

00:43:40.520 young people

00:43:41.380 making bad

00:43:42.300 choices who

00:43:43.340 have no idea

00:43:44.060 that they're

00:43:44.480 ingesting

00:43:44.920 fentanyl.

00:43:45.700 They think

00:43:46.000 they're taking

00:43:46.760 some kind of

00:43:47.340 a party

00:43:47.780 drug and it 0.80

00:43:48.420 turns out to

00:43:49.060 be laced

00:43:50.140 with fentanyl.

00:43:51.360 I mean,

00:43:51.520 there is a

00:43:52.140 human cost

00:43:53.060 to allowing

00:43:54.660 this open

00:43:55.320 border.

00:43:56.300 100,000

00:43:57.040 people dead

00:43:57.840 alone from

00:43:59.980 opiates and

00:44:00.740 fentanyl.

00:44:02.120 The state

00:44:03.820 of Rhode

00:44:04.160 Island not

00:44:05.020 long ago

00:44:05.760 made a

00:44:06.480 bust where

00:44:07.140 they found

00:44:07.820 someone with

00:44:08.780 41 kilos

00:44:10.740 of fentanyl.

00:44:12.420 Good Lord.

00:44:13.360 Which is an

00:44:14.320 extraordinary

00:44:15.200 amount of

00:44:16.060 it, and of

00:44:16.740 course it was

00:44:17.460 being trafficked

00:44:18.300 by, in this

00:44:19.500 case, Dominicans,

00:44:22.080 illegal aliens

00:44:23.040 from the

00:44:23.420 Dominican

00:44:23.740 Republic,

00:44:24.660 with fake

00:44:25.580 IDs that

00:44:27.180 they got

00:44:27.700 from stealing

00:44:28.420 the social

00:44:28.880 security numbers

00:44:29.740 of U.S.

00:44:30.700 citizens from

00:44:31.360 Puerto Rico

00:44:32.060 that enabled

00:44:33.440 them to hide

00:44:34.120 in plain sight

00:44:34.840 here and get

00:44:35.380 driver's licenses

00:44:36.280 and so on.

00:44:37.360 But yeah,

00:44:37.860 it's a horrible

00:44:39.520 tragedy that is

00:44:40.760 occurring before

00:44:42.160 our eyes and

00:44:43.360 that is being

00:44:43.860 ignored by the

00:44:45.780 open borders

00:44:46.520 advocates.

00:44:47.980 The open

00:44:48.340 borders advocates.

00:44:49.820 You know,

00:44:50.020 there was one

00:44:50.640 president who

00:44:52.020 decided to take

00:44:53.420 on the cartels.

00:44:54.660 And that, of

00:44:56.500 course, was

00:44:56.960 Donald Trump.

00:44:58.220 The 45th

00:44:59.160 president is the

00:44:59.960 only president

00:45:00.740 who's had the

00:45:01.540 guts to say

00:45:02.720 that he was

00:45:04.260 going to take

00:45:04.880 on these

00:45:05.400 cartels.

00:45:06.660 And guess what

00:45:07.480 the result is?

00:45:08.800 Every corporation,

00:45:10.460 seemingly,

00:45:11.180 every corporation,

00:45:12.820 every business

00:45:14.980 on those borders,

00:45:16.580 every commerce

00:45:17.880 lobbyist,

00:45:19.160 every business

00:45:21.460 roundtable

00:45:22.100 lobbyist,

00:45:23.380 Wall Street

00:45:23.960 lobbyist,

00:45:24.860 went after his

00:45:25.620 hide.

00:45:26.560 And they don't

00:45:27.460 want to talk

00:45:27.980 about the

00:45:28.360 cartels.

00:45:28.940 They don't

00:45:29.160 want to talk

00:45:29.640 about the

00:45:30.040 human cost.

00:45:30.880 And by the

00:45:31.200 way, just

00:45:31.940 recently, the

00:45:33.140 former executive

00:45:34.120 director of the

00:45:35.220 Black Caucus

00:45:36.180 Foundation talked

00:45:38.340 about something you

00:45:39.100 and I have been

00:45:39.600 talking about for

00:45:40.400 decades.

00:45:41.440 The cost to

00:45:42.820 American minorities

00:45:44.460 who then find

00:45:47.360 themselves in

00:45:48.060 competition with

00:45:49.000 these illegal

00:45:49.620 immigrants.

00:45:50.640 And by the way,

00:45:51.080 that's just the

00:45:51.680 most benign damage

00:45:53.260 that's being done

00:45:54.360 to the country.

00:45:55.640 It's not as

00:45:56.700 violent as the

00:45:58.040 overdose deaths.

00:45:59.180 It's not as

00:45:59.720 profound for the

00:46:04.020 country in some

00:46:04.880 respect as all of

00:46:07.440 the other economic

00:46:08.500 impacts.

00:46:09.440 But for African 0.84

00:46:11.440 Americans in

00:46:12.260 particular, it's

00:46:14.280 devastating.

00:46:15.460 It's a big

00:46:16.260 deal.

00:46:16.940 It's the denial

00:46:18.000 of job

00:46:18.920 opportunities because

00:46:20.020 of unfair

00:46:20.600 competition from

00:46:21.720 employers that

00:46:22.500 would rather hire

00:46:23.320 cheap illegal

00:46:24.020 labor.

00:46:25.360 It's, you know,

00:46:26.460 cutting off these

00:46:28.080 kids' opportunities

00:46:29.240 to build a life for

00:46:30.620 themselves of good

00:46:31.980 employment.

00:46:33.120 And it's destroying

00:46:34.480 their schools and

00:46:35.580 neighborhoods, too.

00:46:37.100 Yeah, I mean,

00:46:37.780 it's devastating.

00:46:39.720 That's all there is

00:46:40.520 to it, to every,

00:46:41.780 every American.

00:46:43.100 one way or the

00:46:44.860 other, except for

00:46:46.060 those who are in

00:46:46.800 direct profit of

00:46:47.880 it.

00:46:49.080 And so what are we

00:46:50.700 going to see

00:46:52.660 happen?

00:46:53.780 Greg Abbott, the

00:46:55.020 governor of Texas,

00:46:55.960 has done a marvelous

00:46:57.040 job of mobilizing his

00:46:58.640 state and trying to

00:47:00.900 secure that border.

00:47:03.260 Anybody else come to

00:47:05.040 mind in the states

00:47:07.020 with particularly

00:47:08.260 interesting initiatives

00:47:09.780 to try to stop

00:47:11.620 this illegal

00:47:12.260 immigration?

00:47:14.020 Yes, there are.

00:47:14.800 And yes, Governor

00:47:15.900 Abbott in Texas is

00:47:17.300 doing a good job.

00:47:18.360 He's trying to

00:47:19.480 prevent people from

00:47:20.780 getting into the

00:47:21.540 country to begin

00:47:22.400 with and to

00:47:23.180 backstop the border

00:47:24.260 patrol in catching

00:47:26.460 the gotaways and so

00:47:27.800 on.

00:47:28.340 But there are some

00:47:29.280 other states, you

00:47:29.960 know, every state, of

00:47:30.860 course, is a border

00:47:31.600 state.

00:47:32.580 You know, when the

00:47:33.680 border is not

00:47:34.180 controlled, that's

00:47:34.780 almost a cliche

00:47:35.440 nowadays.

00:47:35.980 So other governors

00:47:37.520 are trying things

00:47:38.320 as well.

00:47:38.920 Governor DeSantis

00:47:39.680 in Florida has

00:47:40.720 issued a series of

00:47:42.260 executive orders that

00:47:44.180 are doing a number

00:47:45.020 of important things.

00:47:46.260 And one of them is

00:47:47.060 to try to prevent

00:47:48.300 these illegal

00:47:50.940 border crossers from

00:47:52.040 being transported

00:47:53.060 into Florida, not

00:47:54.880 only to stop the

00:47:55.720 smuggling, but also

00:47:56.960 to stop the NGOs

00:47:58.660 from getting

00:47:59.320 contracts with the

00:48:00.400 federal government to

00:48:01.360 bring them in.

00:48:03.540 And so that's

00:48:04.340 really important to

00:48:05.180 just not play

00:48:05.980 along with this

00:48:07.780 catch-and-release

00:48:08.840 policy and say,

00:48:09.900 you know, they're

00:48:10.300 not coming here

00:48:10.940 that easily.

00:48:12.260 He's also going

00:48:13.140 after employers.

00:48:14.540 He's empowering

00:48:15.720 law enforcement

00:48:16.460 agencies to

00:48:17.280 enforce state

00:48:18.260 laws that, if

00:48:20.740 enforced, help

00:48:21.880 disrupt illegal

00:48:23.300 employment and

00:48:24.420 identity theft of

00:48:26.260 the kind that we've

00:48:26.920 been talking about.

00:48:27.940 So there definitely

00:48:29.040 are things that

00:48:30.000 states can do

00:48:30.840 beyond the

00:48:31.780 lawsuits, which

00:48:32.820 are also important

00:48:33.820 as well.

00:48:34.580 I don't want to

00:48:35.500 discount them to

00:48:36.960 fight it out in

00:48:37.720 court to try to...

00:48:40.300 Don't you think

00:48:41.800 we can discount

00:48:42.460 just about

00:48:43.080 everything that's

00:48:44.540 been done to

00:48:45.120 this point?

00:48:45.660 Because we're

00:48:46.240 looking at a

00:48:47.320 crisis, a

00:48:48.680 disaster on our

00:48:49.720 border.

00:48:50.180 We are watching

00:48:51.460 illegal immigrants

00:48:52.560 by the millions

00:48:53.480 coming into this

00:48:54.520 country, and what

00:48:57.100 are they doing?

00:48:57.840 They're going to

00:48:58.360 be counted, and

00:48:59.640 we're counted, in

00:49:00.880 the census.

00:49:01.320 Those states

00:49:02.560 where those

00:49:03.160 illegal immigrants

00:49:04.080 are will attract

00:49:06.400 more districts

00:49:07.580 for Congress,

00:49:08.580 more representation

00:49:09.480 in Congress

00:49:10.440 against every

00:49:11.860 citizen in the

00:49:12.620 country who

00:49:13.640 simply, simply

00:49:15.380 will be

00:49:15.840 underrepresented

00:49:16.720 because of these

00:49:17.940 millions of

00:49:18.580 illegal immigrants

00:49:19.400 who are coming

00:49:19.920 into the country.

00:49:21.200 And by the way,

00:49:22.680 how many of them

00:49:23.560 will be able to

00:49:24.180 vote illegally?

00:49:25.240 Because no one

00:49:26.360 is watching it,

00:49:27.160 certainly not the

00:49:27.800 Republican Party.

00:49:28.760 Well, that's

00:49:30.100 a two-pronged

00:49:32.460 strategy they

00:49:33.120 have, is to

00:49:33.760 flood the

00:49:35.020 districts with

00:49:35.980 new people who

00:49:37.480 aren't here

00:49:38.160 illegally to

00:49:39.100 boost certain

00:49:40.000 districts, but

00:49:40.740 also to pass

00:49:41.980 voting laws that

00:49:44.040 make it tough to

00:49:45.020 crack down on 0.95

00:49:46.080 illegal voting

00:49:47.000 itself.

00:49:48.160 So put the two

00:49:48.880 together, and

00:49:49.800 that's a recipe

00:49:50.580 for diluting, if

00:49:53.980 not denying, the

00:49:55.000 votes and the

00:49:55.740 will of Americans.

00:49:56.960 Yeah, it's

00:49:58.600 absolutely

00:49:59.540 horrific.

00:50:01.780 Why don't we

00:50:03.960 have somebody in

00:50:05.400 Congress that is

00:50:06.160 a champion of

00:50:07.840 the middle-class

00:50:09.600 working man and

00:50:11.640 woman, a champion

00:50:13.560 of small business

00:50:14.560 who says, this is

00:50:15.700 tearing us to

00:50:16.400 pieces.

00:50:17.340 Oh, sure, there

00:50:17.820 are some small

00:50:18.380 businesses that

00:50:19.160 benefit, principally

00:50:20.120 in Texas,

00:50:20.880 Louisiana, a

00:50:21.760 number of other

00:50:22.260 places, because

00:50:23.880 they are in

00:50:25.220 residential sales

00:50:27.220 there, and the

00:50:29.020 rental business,

00:50:29.860 whatever it may

00:50:30.400 be.

00:50:32.720 It's just

00:50:33.420 stunning to me

00:50:34.340 that no one

00:50:35.120 wants to see the

00:50:36.280 real result of

00:50:37.480 all of this.

00:50:38.960 And by the way,

00:50:39.860 why don't we ask

00:50:40.440 ourselves at the

00:50:41.280 same time, who's

00:50:42.580 paying off the

00:50:43.620 border patrol?

00:50:45.080 What does it

00:50:45.940 cost to bribe a

00:50:48.880 border patrol agent,

00:50:49.920 and how many are

00:50:50.720 taking bribes, and

00:50:52.060 why can't we

00:50:52.880 get a border

00:50:54.820 patrol that

00:50:55.940 stands up

00:50:56.660 against this

00:50:58.120 onslaught?

00:51:00.060 Well, there's

00:51:01.160 always a risk of

00:51:02.580 corruption, but I

00:51:03.400 think we can get a

00:51:04.940 border patrol that

00:51:05.680 stands up against

00:51:06.680 this, as long as,

00:51:07.840 first of all, we're

00:51:08.380 not constantly

00:51:09.040 enriching the

00:51:09.760 cartels, giving

00:51:10.620 them more money 0.52

00:51:11.880 with which to

00:51:12.840 corrupt public

00:51:13.740 officials, but

00:51:14.980 also through

00:51:15.520 policies and not

00:51:16.940 overwhelming the

00:51:18.000 border patrol with

00:51:19.380 all of this

00:51:20.040 illegal migration

00:51:21.540 so that they

00:51:22.960 can, if they're

00:51:23.880 not overwhelmed,

00:51:24.600 they can do

00:51:25.060 their job, and

00:51:26.400 they can take the

00:51:27.160 time to train and

00:51:28.660 monitor.

00:51:29.640 How many more

00:51:30.180 border patrol agents

00:51:31.140 do we have today

00:51:32.140 that we had a

00:51:32.840 decade ago, or

00:51:33.960 two decades ago?

00:51:35.420 We actually have a

00:51:36.280 lot more now than

00:51:37.340 we used to, and

00:51:38.340 most people think

00:51:40.200 that the answer is

00:51:40.800 not more border

00:51:41.660 patrol agents, but

00:51:43.040 letting them do

00:51:43.840 their job, and

00:51:45.340 not having policies

00:51:46.380 that undermine them.

00:51:47.580 I don't want to

00:51:48.100 let them do their

00:51:49.820 job, I want a

00:51:51.020 border patrol that

00:51:51.820 wants to do its

00:51:52.880 job, a leadership

00:51:54.320 who makes certain

00:51:55.740 that they're doing

00:51:56.360 their job, a

00:51:57.160 Congress that has

00:51:58.240 oversight, a

00:51:59.520 president who

00:52:00.360 demands it.

00:52:01.760 This is madness

00:52:03.180 what we're

00:52:03.680 watching.

00:52:04.360 We're building

00:52:04.920 another giant

00:52:06.160 bureaucracy in the

00:52:07.460 federal government,

00:52:08.360 and people walk

00:52:09.300 around on the

00:52:10.760 border saying, I'm

00:52:11.460 a border patrol

00:52:12.120 agent.

00:52:12.800 The only problem

00:52:13.300 is they're not

00:52:14.100 patrolling anything,

00:52:15.160 they're not

00:52:15.580 apprehending anyone,

00:52:17.280 and if they do,

00:52:18.320 they're released

00:52:18.920 into the

00:52:19.360 country.

00:52:19.800 And by the

00:52:20.280 way, it's

00:52:20.840 not like the

00:52:22.020 illegal immigrants

00:52:23.660 or the sex

00:52:24.500 trafficking, those 0.98

00:52:25.760 people sort of

00:52:26.520 hide in the dark

00:52:27.500 and make their

00:52:28.080 way north.

00:52:29.260 They're being

00:52:30.000 picked up by

00:52:31.000 government-chartered

00:52:32.080 aircraft and

00:52:33.400 deposited in the

00:52:34.440 dead of night in

00:52:35.900 communities all over

00:52:37.180 this country by the

00:52:38.280 Biden administration,

00:52:40.040 and nobody wants

00:52:41.260 to focus on it.

00:52:43.580 Well, we have to

00:52:44.880 have hope that there

00:52:46.180 are enough people

00:52:47.020 out there, whether

00:52:47.780 they're in the

00:52:48.420 border patrol or

00:52:49.560 in ICE, who are

00:52:50.960 going to outlast

00:52:52.000 the Biden

00:52:52.640 administration and

00:52:54.180 remember what

00:52:55.680 oath they took

00:52:56.560 and know what

00:52:59.140 they owe to the

00:53:00.600 citizens of this

00:53:01.380 country who pay 0.92

00:53:02.120 their salaries and

00:53:03.220 who they want to

00:53:05.260 serve.

00:53:06.900 I like to think

00:53:08.120 that they're going

00:53:09.260 to outlast these

00:53:10.280 bad policies.

00:53:11.300 It's going to

00:53:11.660 take a while,

00:53:12.340 it's painful, and

00:53:13.280 some of this

00:53:13.720 damage, frankly,

00:53:14.500 can't be undone.

00:53:15.420 But, you know,

00:53:16.900 we have to get

00:53:17.420 up and go to

00:53:17.840 work every day

00:53:18.520 and keep fighting

00:53:19.180 for it.

00:53:20.280 Yeah, I understand

00:53:22.240 what you're saying,

00:53:23.000 I understand why.

00:53:24.860 But getting up and

00:53:25.780 going to work every

00:53:26.700 day and fighting,

00:53:28.180 when we've been

00:53:29.180 doing the same

00:53:29.800 things over and

00:53:31.040 over and over,

00:53:32.240 since 1986,

00:53:34.620 when the Reagan

00:53:35.940 amnesty took

00:53:37.760 place, we have

00:53:39.660 been absolutely

00:53:41.780 deceived by the

00:53:43.840 Democratic Party,

00:53:44.860 which has become

00:53:46.160 nothing more than

00:53:46.920 an agency for

00:53:47.860 illegal immigration

00:53:48.740 for the drugs

00:53:49.680 that are being

00:53:50.640 shipped by the

00:53:51.380 cartels, sex

00:53:52.720 traffic, and make

00:53:53.460 no mistake, they're

00:53:54.340 aligned with the

00:53:55.260 cartels, whether

00:53:56.460 intentionally or

00:53:57.560 otherwise.

00:53:58.780 They're aligned.

00:54:00.020 Corporate America

00:54:00.660 is aligned with

00:54:02.620 those cartels, and

00:54:04.680 their obscene,

00:54:07.320 corrupt profits.

00:54:10.400 It's disgusting.

00:54:11.560 It is, but I

00:54:13.800 mean, I'm

00:54:15.460 optimistic.

00:54:16.720 Donald Trump

00:54:17.280 showed people

00:54:18.080 that.

00:54:18.380 Let me finish

00:54:19.560 one thing.

00:54:20.340 Okay.

00:54:21.660 Why should we

00:54:23.340 not be direct and

00:54:24.980 honest about what

00:54:25.740 we're dealing with

00:54:26.400 here?

00:54:27.140 We have a corrupt

00:54:28.860 America that is

00:54:30.280 permitting this.

00:54:31.160 You mentioned the

00:54:31.900 Dominicans, the 0.88

00:54:32.700 gangs that come up

00:54:33.740 from the Dominicans,

00:54:34.720 primarily on the

00:54:35.820 East Coast.

00:54:37.340 But we've also

00:54:38.660 got MS-13, all of

00:54:40.480 the Central

00:54:40.980 American gangs

00:54:42.060 that are operating

00:54:42.980 here.

00:54:43.560 And when I say

00:54:44.680 gangs, I'm

00:54:45.300 talking about

00:54:46.100 transnational

00:54:47.300 gangs and

00:54:49.760 cartels that

00:54:50.860 have invaded

00:54:53.760 every city and

00:54:55.320 are part of this

00:54:56.320 crime wave that

00:54:57.960 is sweeping

00:54:58.640 America.

00:54:59.680 We've got to be

00:55:00.760 honest about

00:55:01.360 what's going on

00:55:02.100 here.

00:55:02.580 We've got to do

00:55:03.380 more than say

00:55:03.920 this is a policy

00:55:04.840 issue.

00:55:05.780 This is a

00:55:06.380 damn

00:55:06.780 existential

00:55:08.020 issue for

00:55:08.920 American society.

00:55:11.040 It really is

00:55:12.600 when you

00:55:13.380 consider the

00:55:14.280 corruption and

00:55:15.580 the violence

00:55:16.260 that enables

00:55:17.740 it can

00:55:18.960 infect our

00:55:20.660 government and

00:55:22.740 our communities,

00:55:23.840 particularly, you

00:55:24.840 know, with the

00:55:25.280 likes of MS-13

00:55:26.940 and their

00:55:28.460 extortion

00:55:29.360 rackets and

00:55:30.500 the way that

00:55:31.300 they can, you

00:55:32.960 know, because

00:55:33.380 they make so

00:55:34.120 much money and

00:55:35.180 instill so much

00:55:36.220 fear in

00:55:36.840 communities, they

00:55:38.320 can become

00:55:40.080 extremely powerful

00:55:41.300 because people are

00:55:42.460 afraid of them.

00:55:43.200 And we need to

00:55:44.280 say, we need to

00:55:45.060 say that something

00:55:46.400 like 40% of the

00:55:48.140 unaccompanied

00:55:48.720 minors, excuse

00:55:49.780 me, 40% of the

00:55:50.960 MS-13 members

00:55:52.200 arrested by ICE in

00:55:53.480 recent years

00:55:54.260 originally came

00:55:55.340 here as unaccompanied

00:55:57.300 minors.

00:55:57.800 And so to the

00:55:58.760 extent that we

00:55:59.480 allow these

00:56:01.580 kids to keep

00:56:02.980 coming here and

00:56:03.880 released into our

00:56:04.740 communities, we're

00:56:05.980 enabling MS-13 to

00:56:07.440 grow its ranks.

00:56:08.600 And the more

00:56:09.020 they become

00:56:09.760 entrenched here,

00:56:11.260 the harder they're

00:56:11.980 going to be to

00:56:13.000 uproot.

00:56:14.200 There have been

00:56:15.180 towns in

00:56:15.740 California where

00:56:16.960 political leaders

00:56:19.020 have been

00:56:20.320 bought off by

00:56:22.000 MS-13, perhaps

00:56:23.280 not directly,

00:56:24.420 and maybe

00:56:25.480 they're too

00:56:26.120 dim-witted to

00:56:26.960 realize where

00:56:28.160 this money is

00:56:28.740 coming from, but

00:56:29.520 it is a

00:56:30.300 corrupting and

00:56:31.020 can be a

00:56:31.660 deadly corrupting

00:56:32.740 influence, the

00:56:34.160 same way that

00:56:35.280 the mob and

00:56:36.860 other gangs and

00:56:40.080 criminal

00:56:40.840 organizations have

00:56:41.760 done it in the

00:56:42.440 past throughout

00:56:43.140 our history.

00:56:44.840 But yeah, we

00:56:46.080 can't sugarcoat

00:56:47.600 it, we can't

00:56:48.360 deny it's

00:56:49.000 happening, we

00:56:49.620 can't cover it

00:56:50.640 up by saying

00:56:51.280 these are just

00:56:51.900 kids seeking

00:56:52.620 asylum or

00:56:54.100 people fleeing

00:56:55.200 for a better

00:56:55.700 life.

00:56:56.900 We are

00:56:57.700 allowing criminal

00:56:59.480 enterprises to

00:57:00.260 flourish here.

00:57:01.160 And of course

00:57:01.880 that is the

00:57:02.420 fantasy perpetrated

00:57:03.620 by the

00:57:04.060 Chamber of

00:57:04.520 Commerce, by

00:57:05.180 the Business

00:57:05.640 Roundtable, the

00:57:06.900 NGOs that you 0.93

00:57:08.200 spoke of.

00:57:08.980 It is the

00:57:09.540 fantasy that so

00:57:11.540 many people want

00:57:12.320 to believe because

00:57:13.060 that's easier than

00:57:14.200 believing their

00:57:14.940 lying eyes as

00:57:15.900 they watch family

00:57:17.280 after family be

00:57:18.380 destroyed by these

00:57:19.580 drugs and

00:57:21.000 lives.

00:57:21.660 devastated if

00:57:24.220 not destroyed.

00:57:25.680 It's just, it's

00:57:26.900 a terrible thing.

00:57:27.960 And we have an

00:57:28.760 administration, as

00:57:30.360 we conclude here,

00:57:31.280 Jessica, and I

00:57:32.280 want to give you

00:57:32.720 the last word as

00:57:33.720 we try to do

00:57:35.840 every podcast, I

00:57:38.200 want to give you

00:57:38.940 the last word

00:57:40.020 because the

00:57:41.000 Biden administration

00:57:42.080 is trying to

00:57:43.080 break our

00:57:44.040 border.

00:57:45.040 No doubt about

00:57:46.060 it, our

00:57:46.360 immigration system.

00:57:47.840 They want the

00:57:48.760 open border

00:57:49.580 society to

00:57:50.520 prevail.

00:57:51.540 They're defying

00:57:52.560 federal law, the

00:57:53.660 Supreme Court, the

00:57:55.360 remain in Mexico

00:57:56.340 policy.

00:57:57.900 You know, you

00:57:58.680 know the numbers

00:57:59.260 far better than I

00:58:00.100 ever will, but we're

00:58:01.340 talking about

00:58:01.700 hundreds instead of

00:58:02.860 tens of thousands

00:58:04.100 who should be in

00:58:07.200 Mexico on the

00:58:08.220 remain policy.

00:58:11.660 This administration

00:58:12.900 is flouting the

00:58:13.920 law, flouting its

00:58:15.980 responsibility to act

00:58:18.840 in the national

00:58:19.540 interest.

00:58:20.080 It is absolutely

00:58:20.900 a crisis, but

00:58:22.220 it's also a

00:58:23.060 disgusting

00:58:23.880 abandonment and

00:58:25.820 betrayal that the

00:58:27.300 American people

00:58:28.220 are the, right

00:58:30.560 now, the passive

00:58:31.880 victims of.

00:58:33.480 Your last word.

00:58:35.600 Well, you're

00:58:36.620 right.

00:58:36.900 I mean, it is

00:58:37.940 disturbing to see

00:58:39.200 that the Biden

00:58:40.840 administration is

00:58:41.760 willing to even

00:58:43.700 behave in contempt

00:58:45.440 of federal courts

00:58:46.540 after having been

00:58:47.420 ordered to restart

00:58:49.160 the successful

00:58:50.520 remain in Mexico

00:58:51.500 program, only

00:58:52.660 subjecting 300

00:58:54.380 people to it when

00:58:56.180 there were more

00:58:56.960 than 170,000

00:58:58.620 people caught at

00:58:59.880 the border.

00:59:00.620 This is how far

00:59:01.720 they're willing to

00:59:02.500 go to enact

00:59:03.740 their no borders

00:59:05.220 agenda, to defy

00:59:06.620 federal court

00:59:07.360 orders all in

00:59:08.500 service of

00:59:09.120 something they

00:59:09.620 think that is

00:59:10.480 going to keep

00:59:11.080 them in power for

00:59:12.880 years to come.

00:59:13.840 But we're also

00:59:15.020 seeing a realignment

00:59:16.280 of even some

00:59:17.500 mainstream politicians

00:59:19.200 who understand what

00:59:20.500 Donald Trump

00:59:21.300 showed, which is

00:59:22.200 that Americans

00:59:23.320 think borders are

00:59:24.980 fundamental to our

00:59:26.060 sovereignty and want

00:59:26.940 to see them

00:59:27.420 enforced, and that

00:59:28.500 that's a politically

00:59:29.960 winning position

00:59:31.640 that they all need

00:59:33.080 to adopt if they

00:59:34.220 want to stay

00:59:34.760 employed in

00:59:36.140 government and

00:59:38.040 representing American

00:59:39.300 voters, that

00:59:39.880 ultimately the

00:59:40.940 people's voice

00:59:41.940 has to be

00:59:43.360 followed if

00:59:45.180 they want to

00:59:45.720 keep their jobs.

00:59:47.460 Yeah, unfortunately

00:59:48.020 the people are

00:59:49.740 being told by

00:59:50.560 by government

00:59:51.860 that they are

00:59:53.320 the people's

00:59:54.660 enemy, whether

00:59:55.960 it's the attorney

00:59:56.540 general saying

00:59:57.480 that he is

00:59:59.120 going to go

00:59:59.780 after parents

01:00:00.580 and school board

01:00:01.280 meetings as

01:00:01.860 domestic terrorists,

01:00:03.360 whether it's the

01:00:04.100 January 6th

01:00:05.120 committee, which

01:00:06.500 is just a rank

01:00:07.360 sham Soviet

01:00:09.020 style.

01:00:11.040 Soviet era

01:00:12.780 show trial.

01:00:14.480 It's disgusting.

01:00:15.620 It's disgusting

01:00:16.340 how corrupt

01:00:16.980 this country is

01:00:17.940 and the

01:00:18.680 passivity with

01:00:19.600 which we

01:00:21.240 seem to be

01:00:22.000 checked by

01:00:23.760 our government.

01:00:27.540 Jessica, thanks

01:00:28.280 for everything

01:00:28.740 you do.

01:00:29.240 I hope you'll

01:00:29.920 come back soon.

01:00:30.820 We've got a lot

01:00:31.480 to talk about.

01:00:32.420 This crisis is

01:00:33.200 only going to

01:00:33.840 get worse and

01:00:35.000 much bigger.

01:00:36.420 Thanks so much

01:00:37.180 for being with

01:00:37.740 us.

01:00:38.040 Jessica Vaughn,

01:00:39.240 the Center for

01:00:39.780 Immigration Studies.

01:00:40.900 Thank you, Jessica.

01:00:42.360 My great pleasure.

01:00:43.380 Thank you.

01:00:44.220 Thank you.

01:00:44.780 Join us again

01:00:45.380 tomorrow for the

01:00:46.300 Great America

01:00:46.940 podcast.

01:00:47.940 Stay in the

01:00:48.440 fight.

01:00:48.900 Truth, justice,

01:00:49.940 and the American

01:00:50.400 way will prevail

01:00:51.520 against all

01:00:52.380 enemies, against

01:00:53.360 all odds.

01:00:54.320 Thank you.

01:00:54.520 Thank you.

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