The Great America Show - September 24, 2025


Democrats are AT WAR with themselves & America and it's not going to end well!

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Join me as I sit down with Professor Nick Giordano, a brilliant political mind and a professor of political science, to discuss the assassination of former Vice President Charlie Kirk and the possible cover-up surrounding it.

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00:00:00.000 john well hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with
00:00:06.500 us on this beautiful evening in america thank you so much for spending part of your evening
00:00:10.260 with us here on the great america show we always greatly appreciate it as i always tell you here
00:00:15.780 so much news going on so much going on in the world president trump of course the united nations
00:00:21.700 this week leveling the marxist democrats leveling the globalists who are destroying this country 0.92
00:00:26.560 among many other things going on early this afternoon i sat down with a friend of mine his
00:00:31.520 name is nicholas giordano professor nicholas giordano he's been on the great america show
00:00:35.460 before and you may have seen him on various tv outlets a very very very interesting fellow a
00:00:42.540 good friend of mine a brilliant political mind a professor of political science anyway i sat down
00:00:48.920 with him this afternoon to go on his podcast and it was such a great conversation that i'd be remiss
00:00:53.700 if i didn't bring you the conversation uh that he and i had uh of great great substance
00:00:59.780 you get to sit here every day well i asked the questions so i thought it's important to maybe
00:01:04.760 bring you to the other side where i'm asked a few questions to get uh get my take on uh some of the
00:01:11.360 things that are going on take a listen to to my sit down with professor nick giordano
00:01:16.540 welcome how are you today nick it's always an honor and a delight and uh you've got me woken up early in
00:01:22.320 the morning to come on your show so you know well i have to i mean otherwise you'll be a bum and be 0.74
00:01:27.300 in bed all day but you know in a serious note on sunday we saw the memorial of charlie kirk it was a
00:01:35.000 fascinating event i really give credit to erica kirk especially the powerful message of forgiveness i
00:01:42.140 don't know how she could do i wouldn't be able to do that and i'm a catholic but in any event she's
00:01:46.680 probably better than me in that way what were your thoughts on the memorial service you know it was
00:01:51.280 sad but it was you know i've been saying this over the last few weeks we've gone through i think some
00:01:55.360 of the greatest moments we've seen our country go through in this time period of charlie being
00:01:59.600 assassinated and some of the worst time period this country's ever gone through and what i mean by that
00:02:04.900 before anyone goes crazy is we've seen who are the good people in this country and who are the bad
00:02:09.260 people we've seen the mainstream media we've seen late night television hosts try to celebrate
00:02:14.340 this assassin like he was some sort of savior but on the other side we've seen now a football stadium
00:02:20.820 filled up to capacity with people mourning the life of a man who's done so much for this country
00:02:25.640 who spent who devoted his life literally to a movement that is helping save this country so to
00:02:33.100 see the thousands and tens of thousands of people there gathering to celebrate the life of this man i i
00:02:38.860 think it was such a chilling moment to see erica kirk up there to see president trump hugging her to see
00:02:43.940 elon musk and donald trump sort of reconnecting to come together after this tragedy we're definitely
00:02:49.940 at a turning point no pun intended to this country after that i'm sure we'll get into it but it was
00:02:54.920 just a chilling moment and it was nice to see so many great americans connect to celebrate this great
00:03:01.100 man's life i have to ask for your generation my generation this was the first real political
00:03:07.380 assassination that we've witnessed i mean i was a baby when ronald reagan was nearly assassinated
00:03:13.600 but when we look at charlie kirk and the way it happened compounded with social media and how everyone
00:03:21.120 saw it it's not like something that you could have avoided do you think that had a galvanizing impact
00:03:27.440 on what we're witnessing today yes and no i the social media aspect of it is terrifying the fact
00:03:35.020 that just moments after it happened you were able to see exactly what happened i don't know if it's
00:03:38.780 a good thing i don't know if it's a bad thing it's just a terrible terrible situation the fact is that
00:03:44.700 nick we're at an affliction point right now in this country and we're at a war we're not at war just with
00:03:49.040 mexico and venezuela and iran and you know everyone else who hates america but we're at a war with
00:03:54.760 ourselves and it's a march that's left and it's not a war that maga or the republicans created
00:04:00.440 you have to look now what has happened and what has happened time and time again with these
00:04:05.440 assassinations and these alleged attempt not alleged attempted assassinations we watched
00:04:11.160 two on president trump there's probably many more in people's lives that we just don't even know about
00:04:16.140 that don't come to fruition that don't come to light but we've watched it nick on k what happened to
00:04:21.440 charlie and we have to look at what we're in now we're in a war against people who want us dead
00:04:27.040 there's no hyperbole about it there's nothing metaphoric about it the fact is they want us dead
00:04:33.800 and they're going to take and do everything they can to ensure that happens whether it be their 0.98
00:04:38.380 cowards on a rooftop where you can't even look at them the eyes when they have the the intestinal 0.98
00:04:43.280 fortitude to try to kill you they're on rooftops they're shooting you from behind you look at what 0.98
00:04:48.160 happened the united health care ceo right here in our city of new york city who's not going to get 0.97
00:04:52.260 the death penalty because of rogue prosecutors you go down the list of these people they're sick 0.91
00:04:57.740 demented people that want us dead how do we get ourselves out of this i think it's a million dollar 0.85
00:05:02.120 question if i had the answer to i'd be a savior well i want to ask you about that because it is
00:05:08.100 disturbing when you look at the cultural rot that's infecting our country when you look at people
00:05:13.180 celebrating the luigi mangi owns and the shooter the charlie kirk assassin what has happened in our
00:05:20.360 country that has led to such cultural rot what do you what do you think it is there's a level of
00:05:27.280 patriotism on the right i think that has the left absolutely berserk you have a party that's mostly
00:05:33.140 i'd say mostly united when you look at it on the on the front of in the face of it you have a donald
00:05:37.940 trump who's i say on my show nick the president who won three elections three presidential
00:05:42.780 elections ever in the history of this country you have a president nick for the first time in
00:05:47.180 my lifetime probably in your lifetime who means what he says and says what he means he campaigned
00:05:54.240 on doing x he did x and i could go through the list of closing the border of holding china accountable 0.76
00:05:59.020 of bringing jobs back to america of cutting inflation of getting interest rates under control he's the
00:06:03.440 only president in the history of this country in my opinion who's ran and said he's going to do what
00:06:08.800 he's going to do and i think it drives these people on the left absolutely insane that they do
00:06:12.480 not have a donald trump like figure you think about it who they have governor jb pritzker governor
00:06:17.760 gavin newsom gretchen whitmer little josh shapiro in pennsylvania hillary rotten clinton joe biden kamala
00:06:24.760 harris they don't have someone nick on their side who can herd a sheep a bunch of sheep so i think when
00:06:32.060 you couple all of that together and the fact that donald trump says and means what he says getting men at
00:06:38.940 a women's sport you go down the list of litany of things that he said he's going to do and he does 0.94
00:06:43.020 it i think it's driven these people to the fact that they know their party is incapable of winning
00:06:48.640 without cheating and i think it puts some sort of mental derangement in their head that actually drives
00:06:54.440 them to the limit of psychoticness that makes me ask so you have a party the democratic party largely was
00:07:03.060 pretty unified pretty disciplined for years for decades and the republican party was one where we
00:07:10.080 saw a lot of infighting we saw the disunity republicans will stab each other in the back before
00:07:14.800 the the political opponents will but we we see that something is taking hold in the democrat party
00:07:21.120 you have the rise of aoc who now there's talk about her running for president 2028 please yeah you 0.99
00:07:28.420 you have mamdani in new york city what's happening within the democrat party that you're seeing the
00:07:36.620 the far left takeover why is it happening and why are people like john fetterman who could actually bring
00:07:43.660 the party and i can't believe i'm saying this but he could bring the party back to the forefront
00:07:47.080 why is someone like him being marginalized so what's happening in my opinion nick is on a somewhat of a
00:07:53.840 scale of what happened to the republican party in 2016 so before 2016 you know exactly what the
00:07:59.260 republican party was it was the party of rich white conservative men george bush-esque looking people
00:08:05.680 with comb overs on their head all the same haircut no facial hair you know your token typical republican
00:08:13.320 until a bad orange man came along in 2016 with a nice comb over and says no we're tired of your 0.96
00:08:21.320 nonsense we're tired of your bs and he took over the republican party there is no more republican
00:08:27.380 party there is the party of maga america first and then there's the party of rhinos that's the two
00:08:32.500 factions inside of what is ostensibly the republican party there is no more republican party and there
00:08:37.660 never will be we're never going back to those days so i attribute to what's happening right now inside
00:08:42.640 the marxist democrat party a little bit more of a sloppier version of what happened in 2016 inside the
00:08:47.640 republican party you have the the traditional democrats who at one point was chuck schumer and
00:08:52.920 don't get mad at me for saying that but that's just the truth of the matter at what he was he was a
00:08:56.820 mainstream democrat he wasn't some far left ideologue right right hillary clinton's of the world uh hell
00:09:03.180 bill clinton is is more conservative in 2000 than some of the republican rhinos we have right now 0.76
00:09:08.200 so you have that faction of the party nick that now as i said they don't have any ideas they literally run
00:09:15.420 on zero ideas i don't know if you remember but during kamala's run after donald trump came out
00:09:20.700 and said no tax on tips she's coming out saying no tax on it that's literally the democratic part of
00:09:26.120 they don't have an idea of their own so i think they're at an inflection point where they're trying
00:09:30.320 to figure out how to reinvigorate themselves now their idea of reinvigorating themselves is going is
00:09:36.260 as far left as possible which donald trump didn't do in in 2016 he didn't go all right he just said
00:09:44.800 things that people like you and i wanted to hear he said things that people haven't heard for years
00:09:51.300 he heard things boiled down to a very normal level of speaking that everyone understands blue collar
00:09:57.860 workers college educated high school educated kids who didn't go to college whatever he boiled everything
00:10:03.340 down for everything to everybody understand now the way the democrats are going about it right now
00:10:07.740 is completely different and completely wrong they're only appealing to one side and that one side 0.96
00:10:13.020 is these crazy liberal blue haired green haired people and they're going to hurt themselves now 0.70
00:10:18.080 the problem is nick is there's nobody in the democratic party who's center left who's smart 0.95
00:10:23.760 enough to save these people because they've managed to pull all of these people in hakeem jeffries now is
00:10:29.860 thinking about endorsing mamdani i don't think hakeem jeffries was that far of a marxist left when he
00:10:35.300 first got into leftist when he first got into politics they're bringing him and brought in
00:10:39.140 nancy pelosi who at one point wasn't a crazy marxist stem they're bringing all of these people
00:10:44.700 in now where they're eventually going to take over the party and it's going to be a marxist party
00:10:49.040 and there's going to be no saving it so to me what i say to them is please keep up the great work
00:10:55.480 it's it's fascinating to watch i mean oh it looks like an implosion to the democrat party
00:11:02.040 and i want to talk to you about some of the rhetoric when we get back from a quick break
00:11:05.620 welcome back to the pas report podcast we got john fawcett host of the great america show everyone
00:11:16.640 needs to check it out so john before the break we were talking about where the democrat party is
00:11:21.660 headed how it's headed towards marxism you have an avowed socialist and communist who possibly could
00:11:28.340 win the mayor's race i mean by the polling he will win unless something changes but what really
00:11:34.000 fascinates me is that the playbook this far left radical group is taking has really been able to
00:11:40.540 silence any normalcy within the democratic party the far left only makes up 20 of the party that's it
00:11:48.600 yet they're the ones with the loudest voices as far as election successes i mean you may be able to win
00:11:55.580 a local election in the five boroughs of new york city to become the mayor but nationwide how is that
00:12:02.300 going to play out on the stage so one of the politicians i once worked for nick told me
00:12:07.160 something he goes if you go and he's a republican obviously the further right you go if you go
00:12:12.600 furthest right nobody could ever primary you these people are in a race to go for the left and they're
00:12:17.780 terrified i mean never did i think nancy pelosi the stock guru would be endorsing all of this crazy
00:12:24.860 crazy stuff i was talking to someone never did i think i would miss tom daschle and dick gephardt but
00:12:29.580 here we are you know i was talking to somebody yesterday and i was talking to him about stock
00:12:34.580 divestments and it was something lou and i were working on the great lou dobbs and i were working
00:12:38.460 on before he passed away and it was putting the pressure on pension funds and corporations to
00:12:43.800 divest from foreign investments now i don't mean to go off on a tangent here but it all ties back and i
00:12:48.580 was telling somebody on wall street that i was having lunch with and he had said to me this is someone who
00:12:52.640 went to columbia the ivy lee columbia and he said to me columbia used to have protests against endowment
00:12:59.920 funds in any sort of fossil fuel energy and i'm sitting there going can you imagine these people 0.91
00:13:05.200 are so dumb to think that fossil fuels are more deadly to america than our investments in china but 0.94
00:13:10.800 that's the way of the left and that's the way of these marches leftists they don't care about all 0.99
00:13:15.960 that they care about just to interrupt you for a second the new york state pension fund the left did
00:13:21.000 that i i did an episode on that years ago where they divested from fossil fuel companies from
00:13:26.680 companies that were giving loans to you know firearm dealers and stuff like that and the new york state
00:13:32.700 comptroller did a study and the only people that got hurt were the investors you know ordinary people
00:13:38.740 that that get these pensions they were the ones that were hurt because they missed the huge returns
00:13:44.120 and so i just wanted to interrupt you for a second to point that out no you're absolutely right and
00:13:48.720 for anyone on this show who has a pension i encourage you go look go open your documents a
00:13:53.640 lot of people don't a lot of people retire they don't want to be bothered by the nonsense and i
00:13:56.700 can't blame them but go look and see where your pension fund is being invested go look on how much
00:14:02.200 of your pension fund is invested in foreign funds i think you're going to be surprised to see but
00:14:07.780 you know that was something that we were working on before he passed away to get the word out
00:14:11.300 going back to mom donnie make no mistake about it i don't care what who you put in that race mom donnie is 1.00
00:14:16.580 going to win the mayor's race and i think this will be part of new york and part of america everything
00:14:22.480 starts in new york nick and then it branches out i think this will be the point where america wakes up
00:14:28.340 now you will see this across the country you will see people continue to put in these marxist left it's 0.91
00:14:34.100 ilhan omars of the world aocs of the world rashida talibas of the world you will see this and you will
00:14:39.800 continue to see these people first pushing further left the way that we get ourselves out of this is these
00:14:44.540 people self-destruct and eventually they will because
00:14:46.740 eventually people will wake up to realize their numbers aren't adding up one plus one is is two not
00:14:53.900 four so the problem but the problem is that will it be too late by then i mean when you look at
00:15:00.600 you know let's say the communist revolution in china you know they were all for it and then they saw the 0.62
00:15:06.000 effects of it but it was too late when you look at hugo chavez's takeover of venezuela same thing
00:15:11.640 you have the majority of those that are impoverished the poorer people they all were in for it now they
00:15:18.420 had to live under that range so if that does happen unfortunately you seem like a little bit
00:15:23.440 pessimistic over here but if that does happen will it be too late to bring this country back to normalcy
00:15:30.020 or is new york city going to be the test case where people are just going to be like we're rejecting
00:15:36.100 it right new york city is getting worse and worse we're seeing the investments flow out of new york city
00:15:41.340 you're seeing the tax base leave new york city and the only thing left is the people that need the
00:15:46.520 system to survive my good pal mark mitchell of rasmussen reports says i have to give him the
00:15:52.200 credit for this because he's the one who's been saying is we're in the fourth turning right now and
00:15:55.620 for anyone that is it's a theory that every 80 to 100 years the country goes through some sort of
00:16:02.480 massive crisis now if you think back 80 to 100 years what happened in that period you had the great
00:16:06.960 depression and you had world war ii among many other things that happened inside that period and
00:16:13.080 we're you know you think about it 1930 1945 we're right on that that penumbra of 80 to 100 years so
00:16:20.040 something has got to give eventually with with something will we go into world war iii will you
00:16:26.620 have an economic collapse you know i right now if you look at it i think either one of those things
00:16:31.980 is possible at any moment with russia not wanting to seemingly end this war with iran um seemingly
00:16:39.140 provocative towards america drug cartels out in mexico and venezuela whatever point of the world
00:16:46.520 nick you want to look at china constantly knocking on our doors you can look and you can throw a dart 0.92
00:16:51.120 and there's somebody who's ready for war with america once again nothing hyperbolic about it but it's
00:16:56.960 just the truth of the matter you want to go look at the economy credit card debt among people is that
00:17:01.480 an all-time high i think we're going to probably start seeing people foreclosing on homes like we
00:17:06.680 haven't seen since 2008 we're at an inflection point right now in this country where it's all
00:17:15.080 going to come tumbling down and the democrats i think are going to be the marxist democrats are going to be
00:17:20.380 at the the bottom of the avalanche well but it's interesting because president trump did campaign on
00:17:26.860 getting prices down on you know obviously making the economy better and these things take time he's
00:17:32.080 only eight nine months in so it does take time to filter down the effects of these policies if things
00:17:38.600 don't start improving by next year what are your thoughts on the midterm elections where do you see
00:17:44.280 it headed do you think that people are going to blame the trump administration say we elected you to
00:17:49.220 solve these problems and it's the same or getting worse or do you think that they're going to look at the
00:17:54.240 socialist takeover and that message is going to resonate with them saying all right let's give
00:17:59.640 socialism a try because we're desperate no the socialist takeover it's it's not it's going to
00:18:05.220 happen with the select fashion and certain congressional seats where they can do it make no mistake nick the
00:18:10.460 the the economic implosion that could come is no by no making of donald trump he didn't make this in
00:18:16.580 eight months this was over the making of four this is a 37 trillion dollar debt that both republicans
00:18:23.460 the democrats allowed to rack up and the government dependency increasing time and time again so
00:18:28.880 i completely understand that and and the mortgages that were given out 30 years ago and 20 20 years ago
00:18:35.020 so you look at who the you know the president is there who's in charge fhfa you know this is this is over
00:18:39.680 the course of many years you don't just get a house mortgage approved by a bank and then eight months
00:18:43.800 later you say well i need to foreclose right now this is you know a long time coming this is
00:18:47.420 four years in the making of people not being able to afford groceries this is four years in the making of
00:18:52.240 people being able to put credit have to put utilities on credit card bills every month and
00:18:56.500 not being able to pay it out of your checking account which mostly every american does so this
00:19:00.620 is years in the making no as for the midterms i don't think the republicans take the fall on it
00:19:05.760 first of all you got to look at what's happening with redistricting i think it's gonna be very hard
00:19:10.080 for the democrats to to win any seats and i call it redistricting when the democrats do it it's
00:19:15.120 gerrymandering the republicans down in texas had the rightful opportunity to add seats because of
00:19:20.740 people going to the to the uh state and and redistricting well the problem democrats have is
00:19:25.720 they gerrymandered every stronghold they have and they can't really gerrymander anymore anymore i mean
00:19:31.380 it's nearly impossible for them where republicans haven't used those tactics some have don't get me
00:19:36.900 wrong but not to the effect that democrats have so they could certainly improve their odds in the
00:19:41.980 house of representatives the only way the republicans lose the house nick is if they do something 0.98
00:19:46.880 catastrophically stupid now that's always a possibility i'm not gonna hold my breath because 0.98
00:19:51.920 these people always find a way to lose and it's not donald trump he literally does whatever he has 0.99
00:19:58.420 to do and i'm not a trump sycophant but i'm just looking at it on his face nick that this man has to
00:20:03.960 bail everybody out every single time 90 plus percent of them who are just lazy and can't carry their own
00:20:10.600 weight i'm quite honestly sick and tired of it and i'm looking forward to the time in 2028 when these
00:20:15.440 people have to work on their own and campaign for themselves and not have donald trump have to carry
00:20:20.200 the water for them i think the republicans do ultimately hold the house and maybe grow some
00:20:25.080 seats in the senate because americans are still optimistic you look at the polling for donald trump
00:20:29.000 americans are still optimistic on everything he's doing from economy to border so you know it's not
00:20:35.520 going to be done overnight i think he does have this economy right now on an uphill tilt but as for the
00:20:40.660 stock market and for inflation but like i said the housing market the credit card debt not something
00:20:45.880 donald trump did but you know will something that will unfortunately i can come down in the next four
00:20:50.560 years i think we have no choice when credit card companies have to start eating debt and foreclosures
00:20:55.920 start going into account now like i said it's it's no doing of donald trump but what are you going to do
00:21:00.800 well one thing that i hope donald trump does is crash the oil prices because you get those lower that's
00:21:06.660 going to change a lot we need to take quick break but when we get back i actually want to talk about
00:21:11.720 the impact of the death of charlie kirk and how that's impacting the national conversation so
00:21:17.320 everyone hang tight we'll be right back
00:21:19.020 welcome back to the pas report podcast i'm with john fawcett host of the great america show john
00:21:30.460 i want to talk about the impact of charlie kirk because obviously we've heard the rhetoric over 0.59
00:21:36.860 the years nazi fascist you know evil domestic terrorists violent extremists that if you are
00:21:43.520 patriotic and fly a american flag or betsy ross flag you're trying to intimidate and harass other people 0.93
00:21:50.340 i mean the rhetoric is completely out there now you would think that democrats would come to the
00:21:55.600 conclusion that this rhetoric not only isn't helpful but it's actually hurting them in the long
00:22:00.820 term i mean anyone that knows anything about nazis you don't use nazi references to describe your
00:22:06.300 political opponents but they haven't i mean the only so senator fetterman came out and he bashed a
00:22:13.540 whole nazi rhetoric that you had a bernie sanders release an eight minute video which i applaud him with
00:22:19.360 but the problem with him is he says by any means necessary constantly we got to overthrow the oligarchy
00:22:25.400 by any means necessary so he uses the rhetoric too do you think that democrats are going to start to
00:22:33.400 wise up i mean you know senator chris murphy every single day is saying how democracy has ended
00:22:39.120 do you think that the death of charlie kirk has woken up i'm not talking about republicans or
00:22:45.060 conservatives i'm not talking about democrats or progressives but the apolitical people out there
00:22:50.880 the people that really didn't get involved in politics you know they would hear things but they
00:22:56.240 didn't like to talk politics do you think it galvanized a ton of americans that haven't been
00:23:02.080 involved that now will get active and involved just real quick uh chris murphy saying democracy has
00:23:07.920 ended if he's saying democracy has ended now but it didn't end when they stole an election in 2020 when
00:23:13.040 they stuffed mail-in ballots and did whatever they had to do to steal an election or when they stole the
00:23:17.160 nomination from joe biden if democracy didn't die then but it died now i would love to talk to chris
00:23:21.600 murphy on what changed as for the ordinary americans who are very peaceful people who go to sleep at night
00:23:27.020 not having to worry about politics and i envy them because i'm very jealous of them and probably none of
00:23:31.780 them are watching this show right now but if you know anyone i'm very envious of them because they live
00:23:35.360 a very peaceful life yes i mean death and tragedy i think does do a certain thing to somebody's brain to
00:23:41.860 somebody's mind regardless if it's left or it's right i think it opens people's eyes if you're not
00:23:47.580 political to uh to say you know what something is not right here and i'll give you one example
00:23:54.480 elon musk elon musk didn't endorse president trump until after he was shot in the ear at butler
00:24:00.040 pennsylvania to which elon said enough is a point it's time to spend a few hundred million dollars
00:24:05.400 and ensure that this man wins because clearly he's saying something right if they're trying to kill
00:24:10.040 him so i think it's going to fire up a lot of people you look at the numbers attorney but do
00:24:15.160 you think it's long term or short term you know i think i think once these people get their feet in
00:24:19.780 the water they're going to want to go swimming and you look at the numbers that turning point has put
00:24:23.400 out with the the high schools and college campuses that want to start chapters now all of a sudden in
00:24:29.060 the wake of this tragedy is extremely telling thousands and thousands and thousands of requests i think
00:24:33.980 once these people get their feet wet and they understand what maga what america first is about
00:24:38.160 they realize that we're all patriots we're all lovers of america and that we want the best for
00:24:42.920 this country i think it's going to start a brand new generation which is exactly what we need
00:24:47.100 because the republican party i hate to say this but it's the truth of the matter their their voting class
00:24:52.100 is of the older class and we need to get more people involved to take over the reins of this to
00:24:57.860 fill in for these people who are not going to be here in 20 years who are not going to be here in 30
00:25:02.680 years i i hate to say that but it's just the truth of the matter we need more people more younger kids
00:25:08.160 to take over the reins of these great patriots who have led this country for 50 60 70 years under a
00:25:14.600 great republican party well it's going to be interesting but one of the things that i see
00:25:20.300 and it's something that i've been speaking about for a long time you have the bureaucracy the
00:25:26.260 bureaucracy has emerged as the fourth branch of government in my opinion and it seems like it
00:25:31.940 believes it's independent from the legislative and executive branch even though the legislature has the
00:25:36.880 oversight and the executive branch as chief executive officer the president is the one that controls
00:25:42.200 the bureaucracy but like they did with the last administration they simply propped up joe biden as
00:25:48.380 if biden was cognitively competent we all know he wasn't when it comes to the bureaucracy when it
00:25:55.160 comes to abuses of power when you you hear the left now talking about a war on free speech when they
00:26:01.260 actually use the government to silence millions of americans understand free speech isn't abc saying
00:26:07.200 you violated the morals clause of your contract and you're suspended the war on free speech is when the
00:26:12.880 government tells the twitter and facebook that they have to delete posts that contain unapproved opinions
00:26:19.540 like carl crawford from the cdc did or when a jen saki says they're flagging posts for the white the
00:26:25.260 white house is flagging posts for facebook that censorship when you have a president that says
00:26:30.640 our patience is wearing thin because people aren't getting the coveted shot yeah that's an attack but
00:26:37.700 do you think that the trump team particularly pam bondi who i am not pleased with none of who i don't think
00:26:44.820 is capable of running the department of justice do you think that she is someone that needs to resign 1.00
00:26:51.240 given her screw-ups when it comes to those that abuse their power within the department of justice 1.00
00:26:57.460 that still remain there the lack of prosecutions of people like james clapper despite tulsi gabbard
00:27:04.240 declassifying thousands of documents showing that the whole russian collusion thing was a fraud and a
00:27:10.240 hoax and they all lied about it and but then you have her saying that her government her doj is now going 0.99
00:27:16.740 to target hate speech as if she is the one that interprets what constitutes hate speech or not she
00:27:22.540 tried to clarify it but to me it wasn't good enough what are your thoughts on it i think it was dangerous
00:27:27.960 to what she did and it's exactly what the democrats want it's exactly what the democrats did free speech 0.83
00:27:33.100 needs to be protected nick me coming out here and saying lewd or bad things to you doesn't constitute
00:27:38.680 the police coming to my house and saying why'd you say it to him you know what i mean i mean there's a
00:27:42.340 very fine line there that i think pam bondi's crossed i think donald trump is not happy i'm not
00:27:46.820 quite ready to call for her to resign yet i haven't been happy with her and i go out every single day
00:27:51.460 and do it and i've been asked by people um i'm not going to say who but i've been reached out to by
00:27:56.560 people asking me to stop and i won't do that because i'm all about truth justice in the american
00:28:01.880 way and i don't care if she's not doing a good job i'm going to call her out for it and i think 1.00
00:28:05.760 she's now created this problem for cash patel i think cash patel is probably i mean i know i know
00:28:12.140 he's a good guy but i think he's probably trying to do the best job that he could possibly do and i
00:28:16.540 think he's being hamstrung a little bit and he's taking the rap for things that pam bonnie wants not
00:28:20.440 done so based on even with cash patel who i i i've met nice guy like him did an awesome job when he
00:28:28.740 was working for congressman devin nunez i know you spoke to him often with dobbs but even with him why
00:28:35.280 isn't he taking a page out of tulsi gabbard's book and saying you know what i'm gonna axe 40 percent of
00:28:40.120 his staff and here's declassifying the documents i think he's being hamstrung right now nick and i
00:28:46.100 think based on the fox news report that i was saying last week todd blanche and pam bonnie
00:28:51.060 apparently quote unquote hate cash patel and quote unquote can't stand him so there's clearly a
00:28:57.300 disconnect there right they're all allegedly maga okay there's a disconnect why would pam bonnie and 1.00
00:29:03.260 todd blanche hate and can't stand cash patel and it leads me to believe that had something to do
00:29:08.940 with the emstein files when cash patel and dan bongino well dan bongino didn't show up to work
00:29:13.320 but cash patel was visibly upset and annoyed by the whole interaction and how things were handled
00:29:18.420 it leads me to believe that cash patel is being hamstrung right now now i'm not trying to defend
00:29:22.440 anything he's done that's just me looking at it from the outside knowing cash patel for probably six
00:29:27.700 years working with him on a weekly basis for the last three or four of those that's the way i see
00:29:33.200 things now i saw leo terrell who works in the civil division of the department of justice
00:29:37.340 post on twitter last night that there's people inside of president trump's administration right
00:29:41.960 now who were working against him now i don't know who he's talking about but it leads me to believe
00:29:47.340 that he's working in the department of justice it may be someone over there i think donald trump is
00:29:51.840 getting fed up with tulsi gabbard as well tulsi gabbard pam bonnie as well putting out a tweet over
00:29:56.900 the weekend some people were saying it was a text message to her or whatever but pretty much calling 0.98
00:30:02.280 her out for her bullshit we have this going on we have russiagate we have all these people 0.98
00:30:06.480 who sought to undermine american democracy uh they wanted me in jail or for 700 years they've 1.00
00:30:12.000 indicted me however many times they've done this to me they've done this to our country and these
00:30:15.980 people are still walking the street so i think donald trump is getting a little bit fed up with
00:30:19.300 her he's never expressed any sort of frustration with cash patel publicly or privately to the best of
00:30:24.320 my knowledge i do think she is hanging on by a very very small thread from both maga and president
00:30:32.040 trump well full disclosure i wasn't happy that he picked her in the first place no i wasn't either
00:30:36.740 you know there was many other competent people i think should have been chosen but what are your
00:30:41.740 thoughts on the fcc commissioner because this is a big brouhaha in the republican party now not you know
00:30:46.680 democrats of course they're going to scream fascism but even some republicans didn't like at the fcc
00:30:52.140 chairperson uh car saying we either do this the easy way or the hard way and i'm going to
00:30:58.260 do what's in the public interest on the airwaves now just so everyone knows obviously the federal
00:31:03.680 communications commission regulates the public airwaves it's our tax dollars so it's always been
00:31:08.680 what's in the public interest but would you want a democrat administration to be the ones to determine
00:31:15.020 what's in the people's public interest and do you think that he's another one that his statement
00:31:19.860 causes problems for the administration no i'll tell you why first of all brennan car i know him
00:31:25.160 personally brennan car was one of the first people i've ever interviewed when i was on
00:31:28.240 tv which was kind of funny i interviewed him by accident at cpac one of the first people i've
00:31:32.040 ever interviewed very good guy the difference between abc and cbs and other networks like fox
00:31:37.060 news nick is that they have broadcast licenses which means they are under guise of a certain
00:31:41.420 sort of equal time it's a law you have to give equal time to both sides you have a broadcaster's
00:31:47.060 license you get government funding you have to do that looking at the republican side saying well
00:31:51.500 when the democrats come in maybe they'll do something well no they can't do anything because
00:31:55.720 the republicans get no equal time on any of these broadcast stations anyway fox news doesn't have a
00:32:00.880 broadcaster's license right exactly newsmax does not have a broadcaster's license so what can they
00:32:07.460 possibly do to us nick can they possibly spend um the 800 billion dollars against donald trump in an
00:32:12.600 election you know what can they possibly do to donald trump or to jd vance or to marco rubio or whoever
00:32:18.660 decides to run in 2028 that they haven't already done maybe they'll put a democrat contender on 60
00:32:24.140 minutes and the whole thing i'm not saying that's ever happened before but what can they possibly
00:32:28.160 do at this point i ask you that's a great point but do you think that the language he used
00:32:34.080 was something that should be avoided because again unfortunately if you're republican or
00:32:39.460 conservative it seems like you have to do everything right a hundred percent of the time
00:32:43.700 like that one little slip up of the tongue causes enormous headaches and all republicans have to
00:32:49.500 answer for it including trump whereas democrats could sit there all day lobbing bombs saying
00:32:54.520 nancy pelosi 2019 saying domestic enemies are in the house of representatives and over at 1600
00:33:00.840 pennsylvania and nobody has to answer for that no i i don't think so and i'll tell you why nick because
00:33:07.180 for the last 10 years we've been demonized as human beings anyone who supported president trump we've
00:33:12.020 been well you're subhuman you're not a human being according to the left right you're you're a 0.81
00:33:17.520 misogynist by the way i'm gonna ask mark mitchell i want him to go out and do some polling on 0.95
00:33:21.700 democrats i want to know how many of them actually know what the word fascist means and what anti-fascist
00:33:27.120 means because i guarantee there's like 80 of these people don't even know what the words mean they're
00:33:31.720 told what to say and they all argued in 1948 in the newspaper column that fascism is the most useless
00:33:37.140 word in the english language because it has no meaning everyone uses it i'll ask mark mitchell also to
00:33:43.340 ask them what is nazism and what do nazis represent because i will guarantee you that
00:33:48.300 apparently us many of them have no idea about world war ii because we have a failed education system
00:33:54.360 a hundred percent the reason is that the reason being where you're not going to get me to agree
00:33:58.080 on the on the brendan carr thing is i i'm just so fed up with everything that we've all been put
00:34:03.460 through for 10 years i mean we just watched charlie kirk be assassinated because donald trump and his
00:34:09.780 agenda the way that they're putting it right because charlie kirk was a champion of free speech
00:34:14.460 a champion of donald trump and a champion of maga enough is enough like i said it's it's hit a point
00:34:19.280 in this country where we're gonna break we have to break we're at a war so the democrats the left
00:34:25.540 the marxist mainstream run media have been doing this to us for 10 years for for brendan carr to come
00:34:31.960 out and say what they're doing to say what the view is doing to say what jimmy kimmel is doing
00:34:36.200 who's to say that these people aren't being radicalized by these people on television which
00:34:40.800 i happen to be well nobody watches jimmy kimmel so whatever is that but that's why he really got
00:34:46.780 suspended let's be honest about that absolutely i have to ask you one final go ahead real quick
00:34:51.660 jimmy kimmel went out just a few months ago and encouraged people to burn down tesla dealerships
00:34:58.460 and he's out there on a broadcast license i mean that's dangerous rhetoric that is leading people
00:35:05.260 to get shot it's leading people to get killed how much more are we supposed to put up with it no but
00:35:09.220 the amazing part is because i got into this argument with someone they were like well you call us
00:35:13.900 communist and i'm like communism is an economic philosophy yes a communism is a political institution
00:35:21.740 within and not for nothing but many democrats today self-identify as communists you look at mom
00:35:28.240 donnie he doesn't refute about being communist he he admits i'm a part member of the democratic
00:35:34.440 socialists of america i believe he openly admitted that and i'm like so i don't understand what your
00:35:39.820 point is but they don't know that either in any event i have to ask you one final question because
00:35:44.720 it got lost in the noise last week operation arctic frost where you had uh the department of justice
00:35:51.860 another example of how it's been weaponized under the national strategy of countering domestic
00:35:56.980 terrorism that had nothing to do with domestic terrorism it was all about targeting political
00:36:01.800 opposition and destroy using the power of the government to crush dissent to crush conservative
00:36:08.460 organizations to crush anyone who questions democrat narratives do you think given all the evidence that
00:36:16.840 exists to this date that republicans must start introducing bills that begins to limit the power of the federal
00:36:25.000 government that begins to strip some of these agencies of their statutory authority because obviously they can't be
00:36:31.360 trusted with this power no because it'll never work they'll never follow their own rules watch what
00:36:35.940 they look what they did with the fisa court nick you can put whatever legislation now in theory yes
00:36:40.400 in reality no because these people don't follow the rules they don't listen when they needed to get
00:36:45.000 fisa warrants they just went to their friends who are judges to go ahead and do it when they need to get
00:36:48.940 legislation brought against donald trump and his administration to stop it they go judge shopping
00:36:52.960 these people nick are the biggest threat to democracy the only thing that is going to stop these people
00:36:58.160 is going to be to lock them up you can do legislation till the sun comes out the next day until the next
00:37:05.240 ice age and they will never follow the rules they don't care they break the rules they lie they cheat 0.64
00:37:10.000 they steal you need to start locking these people up perp walk them and make an example of them like they
00:37:16.660 did to donald trump except donald trump is the only person to have never committed any of the crimes that
00:37:21.640 they told them he's done everything they accused him of doing is what they've done and pam bonnie is letting
00:37:26.420 these people walk the streets right now as criminals well we got to get a handle on this bureaucracy
00:37:31.540 because it is out of control there is a deep state that that's not something that's conspiracy theory
00:37:37.180 that's now fact given all the evidence that we've seen and i will disagree a little bit i believe that
00:37:42.060 congress has an obligation to use their power of oversight to rein in these agencies they definitely do
00:37:48.180 and say you're no longer the fbi we're taking the intel function away from you we don't need you to do
00:37:54.760 intelligence instead you're just going to be the investigatory agency that you were designed to
00:37:59.320 be prior to 9-11 and i think that goes a long way but john always a pleasure to talk to you
00:38:04.780 everyone needs to check out the great america show fascinating guests fascinating conversations
00:38:09.800 john great to have you on nick always a delight thank you for having me my friend and i'll see you
00:38:14.580 on the great america show very soon thanks everybody for being with us today here on the great
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00:38:32.600 our discussion today as much as i did see you back here tomorrow folks until then may god bless you
00:38:36.820 may god bless america and may god bless the great lou dobbs have a great night everybody
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