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00:01:15.040 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:01:26.280 Thank you for being with us.

00:01:28.160 President Donald Trump is now under almost constant and daily attack,

00:01:32.660 as always by the Marxist Dems and the corporatist globalist national media.

00:01:37.240 But the assault is now in courtrooms up and down the East Coast.

00:01:42.420 Marxist strongholds from Florida to Georgia to Washington, D.C. to New York,

00:01:47.980 where the president faced corrupt Marxist Attorney General Letitia James, 0.61

00:01:52.800 who's prosecuted the president now for years,

00:01:55.900 trying to bar Trump from ever doing business in New York to pay a quarter billion dollars in fines.

00:02:01.700 There is absolutely no victim, no money taken or lost,

00:02:06.500 but pure political persecution of President Trump.

00:02:10.340 Last week, a Marxist judge, Arthur Ingeron,

00:02:13.560 ruled that Donald Trump defrauded banks and insurers while building his real estate empire.

00:02:20.400 The judge's decision was on facts made by the judge.

00:02:24.480 No jury in the case.

00:02:25.640 This the same alleged charge for which the Marxist Dems Attorney General failed to win a criminal indictment.

00:02:33.260 President Trump talked with the media before heading into the courtroom.

00:02:37.480 Trump told reporters this is just a continuation of the rogue witch hunt by Letitia James

00:02:43.300 and which he's had to fight for years and says these orders to persecute him

00:02:47.960 are coming straight down from Joe Biden's Department of Justice.

00:02:52.420 This is a continuation of the single greatest witch hunt of all time.

00:02:59.800 We have a rogue judge who rules that properties are worth a tiny fraction, 1-100.

00:03:07.000 A tiny fraction of what they actually are.

00:03:10.420 We have a racist attorney general who's a horror show who ran on the basis that she was going to get Trump 1.00

00:03:15.840 before she even knew anything about me.

00:03:18.880 She used this to run for governor. 1.00

00:03:20.680 She failed in her attempt to run for governor. 0.53

00:03:22.700 She had virtually no polling. 0.91

00:03:24.800 She came back and she said, well, now I'll go back to get Trump again.

00:03:28.540 And this is what we have.

00:03:29.760 It's a scam.

00:03:30.580 It's a sham.

00:03:32.100 Just so you know, my financial statements are phenomenal.

00:03:35.720 They are actually less in terms of the numbers used than the actual net worth.

00:03:40.780 The actual net worth is substantially more.

00:03:44.000 No bank was affected.

00:03:45.340 No bank was hurt.

00:03:46.120 They don't even know why they have to be involved.

00:03:49.500 And they've so testified.

00:03:51.180 They can't believe that they're involved because they were paid back on time.

00:03:56.160 There were no defaults.

00:03:57.100 There were no problems.

00:03:58.000 And it was like a perfect client.

00:04:02.380 In the meantime, people are being murdered all over the sidewalks of New York.

00:04:06.500 There was no victim here.

00:04:08.300 The banks were represented by the best, biggest, most prestigious law firms in the state of New York,

00:04:15.860 actually in the country.

00:04:17.180 Some of the biggest and best law firms.

00:04:18.860 In all cases, the biggest and best law firms.

00:04:21.040 That's who represented them.

00:04:22.080 The banks got back their money.

00:04:25.500 Again, there was never a default.

00:04:27.340 There was never a problem.

00:04:28.800 Everything was perfect.

00:04:30.400 There was no crime.

00:04:31.900 The crime is against me because we have a corrupt district attorney,

00:04:37.180 but we have a corrupt attorney general.

00:04:39.740 And it all comes down from the DOJ.

00:04:42.620 They're totally coordinated.

00:04:43.840 It's in Washington because I'm leading.

00:04:45.560 I'm the leading candidate.

00:04:46.580 I'm leading Biden by 10 points.

00:04:48.620 And I'm leading the Republicans by 50 and 60 points.

00:04:51.740 That's pretty much, they say, over.

00:04:53.640 I never accept that, but they say it's over.

00:04:57.080 This has to do with election interference, plain and simple.

00:05:01.560 They're trying to damage me so that I don't do as well as I'm doing in the election.

00:05:05.780 Our country's gone to hell.

00:05:06.960 We have a country that's in decline, serious decline.

00:05:10.220 We have a man running our country who has no clue, doesn't know what he's doing.

00:05:13.820 And you know it better than anybody because you have to cover him.

00:05:16.900 What they've done with open borders, what they've done with interest rates and taxes, it's a disgrace.

00:05:24.280 So what we have here is an attempt to hurt me in an election.

00:05:29.540 President Trump is in the fight of his life against these corrupt Marxist stems,

00:05:33.920 whether Letitia James or the Biden regime.

00:05:36.340 All to stop Donald Trump from returning to the White House.

00:05:40.720 President Trump is far from the only innocent American who faces corrupt and weaponized government.

00:05:46.740 One way or another, we all do.

00:05:49.220 Take, for example, our friend Mike Lindell.

00:05:51.900 He's been under attack from both the federal government and Marxist-im corporations.

00:05:56.080 Over the last two years, Lindell was sued by two voting companies for challenging the integrity of the 2020 election,

00:06:04.100 seeking damages from both Lindell and his company, MyPillow.

00:06:08.280 Just last week, Lindell was informed by American Express that his credit line,

00:06:13.100 which was in great standing, was being cut from $1 million to just $100,000 without explanation.

00:06:20.060 And just yesterday, Mike said he's now under an IRS audit for alleged unlawful employment practices.

00:06:27.620 The last couple of weeks, I've sat through depositions for these machine companies.

00:06:33.100 They attack MyPillow, which is an employee-owned company.

00:06:36.940 And it's amazing, Steve, how all these machine companies get protected.

00:06:40.820 Nobody wants to talk about them.

00:06:42.600 Nobody wants to.

00:06:43.560 All these frivolous lawsuits out there took so much of my time away from MyPillow.

00:06:48.220 So, and believe me, I don't like sitting through depositions, but it's disgusting.

00:06:53.460 Now we're getting an audit.

00:06:54.800 We have an audit coming against MyPillow.

00:06:57.040 All this stuff, they're just attacking.

00:06:59.500 And, yeah, you brought up the MyPillow.

00:07:01.640 Hold it, hold it.

00:07:02.280 Hang on.

00:07:02.680 Ho, ho, ho. 0.99

00:07:03.280 Are you, hang on, hang on.

00:07:04.560 You're breaking news.

00:07:05.220 You're an IRS.

00:07:06.360 The IRS is auditing you guys?

00:07:08.540 Yeah, absolutely.

00:07:09.580 It's, you know, where did that come from?

00:07:11.820 And, you know, so I can't think everybody.

00:07:15.300 But do you think, are you, are you, are you implying, are you implying that you think

00:07:19.260 that this came as a political payback for your efforts to make sure the 2020 election

00:07:24.880 is sorted out?

00:07:26.560 A hundred percent.

00:07:27.860 It's right, you know, we got to get rid of these machines and all I do is get attacked

00:07:31.380 every day for it.

00:07:32.620 And it's the pushback that comes from every bureau, from my phone being taken by the FBI,

00:07:39.220 now the IRS audit, and my company being attacked every single day.

00:07:43.060 Steve, it's an all-out assault.

00:07:45.600 Lindell is far from the only influential pro-Trump public figure who's facing attacks from all

00:07:51.300 sides.

00:07:52.280 The world's richest man, Elon Musk, also under attack from the Marxist Dems for speaking

00:07:57.880 out against the Biden regime.

00:08:00.260 Earlier this year, the SEC announced they were probing Elon Musk's role in Tesla's self-driving

00:08:06.140 cars, accusing Musk of making forward-looking statements about the capabilities of his self-driving

00:08:12.880 cars.

00:08:13.880 Just a few months later, in August, the Department of Justice and SEC announced an investigation

00:08:19.880 of Musk's Project 42, which they claim is a supposed plan to build a secret glass house

00:08:26.100 near his Tesla facility near his Austin, Texas manufacturing facility.

00:08:31.800 Musk is being investigated for a misuse of company funds.

00:08:35.980 And there it goes again.

00:08:37.800 The Biden DOJ also accusing Musk's company, SpaceX, of hiring bias against refugees.

00:08:45.720 SpaceX maintains that the commercial space company's highly classified assets and top-secret

00:08:52.140 technology require the highest level of security.

00:08:55.580 And that means they have to hire U.S. citizens and permanent residents.

00:09:00.560 And just last week, after Musk spoke out against Biden's wide-open border and his publicized visit

00:09:06.820 to the border, Musk was hit with, once again, another Biden investigation.

00:09:12.540 The latest complaint from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, they're suing Musk now,

00:09:17.920 accusing him of allegedly allowing widespread racist harassment of black employees and retaliating

00:09:25.160 against black workers who spoke out against it.

00:09:28.860 The pattern here gets to be a little obvious, doesn't it?

00:09:31.620 Anyone who speaks out against the Biden regime and the Marxist Dems is sure to be retaliated

00:09:38.460 against.

00:09:39.400 And they want everyone to know it, especially conservatives.

00:09:44.040 Turning now to Capitol Hill, where sparks are flying between Congressman Matt Gaetz and Speaker

00:09:49.880 McCarthy and his rhino cronies.

00:09:52.220 Gaetz says he will file a motion to vacate McCarthy's speakership this week for breaking the deal that

00:09:58.820 he made with conservatives when he was elected Speaker back in January.

00:10:03.340 Reports are that McCarthy is using a House Ethics Committee complaint against Gaetz to oust him

00:10:09.980 from the GOP as retribution.

00:10:12.880 It's important to remember that it was McCarthy who broke his promise to pass 12 appropriations

00:10:18.840 bills for a budget to give members 72 hours in which to read proposed legislation.

00:10:24.260 And lastly, it was McCarthy who made a backroom deal with the Marxist Dems over the weekend,

00:10:31.240 a side deal to give money to Ukraine.

00:10:34.100 Gaetz held up his end of the deal.

00:10:36.140 McCarthy didn't.

00:10:37.640 Gaetz spoke on the House floor of McCarthy's betrayal.

00:10:41.480 I rise to raise a question.

00:10:44.660 What was the secret side deal on Ukraine?

00:10:47.240 House Democrats and President Biden have said that as Speaker McCarthy was asking Republicans

00:10:55.460 to vote for a continuing resolution so as to avoid having to take the Senate's plus up in

00:11:02.080 Ukraine money, that the Speaker of the House was actually cutting a side deal to bring Ukraine

00:11:09.740 legislation to this floor with President Biden and House Democrats.

00:11:14.620 So, let me get this straight.

00:11:18.660 To extend Joe Biden's spending and Joe Biden's policy priorities, the Speaker of the House gave

00:11:27.380 away to Joe Biden the money for Ukraine that Joe Biden wanted.

00:11:34.040 It is going to be difficult for my Republican friends to keep calling President Biden feeble while

00:11:41.700 he continues to take Speaker McCarthy's lunch money in every negotiation.

00:11:46.420 Gaetz and his conservative colleagues in the House gave McCarthy the benefit of the doubt in

00:11:50.860 January.

00:11:51.440 They allowed him to become the Speaker of the House after all.

00:11:54.580 And McCarthy failed.

00:11:56.020 He broke his word.

00:11:57.260 It's just my opinion.

00:11:58.660 But I'm afraid the conservatives now are simply too weak to hold McCarthy accountable for any of

00:12:04.800 his actions.

00:12:05.380 I want to bring in our guest today to get his take on what's going on in the House and what we could

00:12:11.800 expect when McCarthy's continuing resolution expires in 42 days.

00:12:17.320 Joining us now, Congressman Scott Perry.

00:12:19.420 He's the head of the House Freedom Caucus.

00:12:21.600 Congressman, as always, great to have you with us.

00:12:24.300 This is an extraordinary moment.

00:12:26.000 I mean, everyone seems to be after everyone's hide in the House.

00:12:30.340 Matt Gaetz wants to take out McCarthy.

00:12:32.320 McCarthy, through the Ethics Committee, seems to want to take out Gaetz, which I suspect means

00:12:37.560 he wants to take out a few other conservatives as well.

00:12:40.740 Your thoughts about all of these internecine conflicts?

00:12:45.220 Yeah, Lou, thanks for having me on.

00:12:47.760 None of that helps the American people.

00:12:50.060 I get the personalities.

00:12:51.940 I get the infractions.

00:12:53.820 I'm not saying that they're not justified.

00:12:56.700 Either one of them, I'm not really sure, you know, about all of that or really any of

00:13:01.680 that.

00:13:02.040 But that aside, I think that we as a Congress and we as individual members, I know I certainly

00:13:08.440 am need to focus on wins for the American people.

00:13:12.560 And that's a lot more a lot more drama from Washington, D.C.

00:13:17.500 that where does it get it at the end?

00:13:19.820 Matt Gaetz isn't in.

00:13:20.980 OK, they get a new representative.

00:13:22.520 The speaker's not in.

00:13:23.480 OK, we get a new speaker.

00:13:24.660 Again, the American people are trying to, Lou, you know this, they can't afford their 0.90

00:13:31.080 grocery bills, their gas bill, their electricity bill.

00:13:33.860 Heaven forbid they're trying to buy a new home or a new car.

00:13:37.240 They're trying to stay out of jail because they, you know, they think conservative and

00:13:41.420 have the guts to go to a school board meeting.

00:13:43.560 And they're worried that the Department of Justice has issued a threat tag on them.

00:13:47.380 I mean, these are real concerns of the American people.

00:13:50.320 They're worried about the border and the fact that thousands upon thousands are coming across

00:13:56.060 illegally every day, bringing fentanyl into their community, into their schools.

00:14:01.600 Those fights in Congress might seem important to the individuals that are having them right

00:14:06.460 now.

00:14:07.860 I'd say we got bigger fish to fry.

00:14:10.480 Well, those those fish to be fried to this point, they aren't even lukewarm.

00:14:17.020 They're not even in the pie in the pan.

00:14:19.480 I mean, the border is an outrage.

00:14:21.580 Yeah, right.

00:14:22.540 It's clear.

00:14:24.400 Look at the spending that's going on.

00:14:26.120 We're talking seven trillion dollars.

00:14:27.700 We're talking three trillion dollars in deficits and including interest on the debt.

00:14:32.460 We're talking about madness right now.

00:14:35.260 Now, a Congress that is impeaching the president of the United States, call it what you will,

00:14:41.380 the the impeachment inquiry, the inquiry.

00:14:44.760 Right.

00:14:44.980 All of that.

00:14:46.020 We're headed there.

00:14:46.960 Well, you better be because it is certainly headed there.

00:14:50.560 Yeah.

00:14:51.120 The evidence is clear right now that this man in the White House is, first of all, illegitimate. 1.00

00:14:57.040 Secondly, that he is a corrupt crook. 0.99

00:15:00.580 And thirdly, that his family has benefited, obviously, from Hunter Biden's dealings. 0.99

00:15:06.680 So and we look at the cover ups, whether it's an Department of Justice, whether it is.

00:15:11.280 I mean, we go through the list.

00:15:13.020 How in the world could he not be impeached? 0.97

00:15:15.560 But the question is, at the same time, the rhinos in your conference want to give him every damn dime that he asked for in a crazy budget. 1.00

00:15:27.240 This from an impaired president, a puppet president and a corrupt president. 0.99

00:15:32.580 And somebody is embarrassed to challenge, to confront the Biden White House on this crazy, outrageous budget. 0.99

00:15:44.120 I mean, I don't understand this.

00:15:46.620 Yeah, you're absolutely you're absolutely right, Lou.

00:15:49.660 And that is the circumstance.

00:15:51.120 And you've been covering this for a long time, but your your viewers might not know this.

00:15:55.900 So we've had the process, the system that we currently operate under in place for all but 50 years.

00:16:02.160 Right. The Budget Control Act of 1974.

00:16:05.620 And since that time, what we're supposed to do.

00:16:08.940 And this is this is law.

00:16:10.420 This is not just if you'd like to do this is the law.

00:16:12.860 We're supposed to set a top line spending.

00:16:15.100 So that's how much you're going to bring into your household this year, how much you have to spend for the year.

00:16:20.620 That's your top line.

00:16:21.740 And then you figure out what are our payments?

00:16:23.780 What's the car payment?

00:16:24.760 What's the mortgage?

00:16:25.680 What's the tuition payment?

00:16:27.660 What is the vacation payment?

00:16:29.420 And that all adds up to that top line.

00:16:32.180 So that's in the form of 12 separate spending bills.

00:16:35.680 We haven't passed 12 separate spending bills, Lou, since 1996.

00:16:40.940 And as a matter of fact, in that almost 50 year history, it's only happened four times.

00:16:47.060 We have held this speaker's feet to the fire and held his job on the line since January when he promised us and he agreed with us that we would get 12 spending bills to the floor.

00:16:58.940 He's gotten five to the floor.

00:17:01.000 Four have passed.

00:17:01.980 One was too much cuts for a bunch of my colleagues on the right.

00:17:05.700 Too much savings there for them.

00:17:07.600 But we still have seven to go.

00:17:10.420 It is a dereliction of duty.

00:17:12.140 It is mismanagement.

00:17:13.500 It is incompetence.

00:17:14.700 Or maybe it's by design.

00:17:16.700 But we need to get those 12 spending bills done so the American people can see, this is how my representative voted.

00:17:24.300 Why did he or she do that?

00:17:26.200 So we have full transparency.

00:17:27.540 But more importantly, Lou, because if the 12 bills don't get done, four people in Washington, D.C.

00:17:34.020 decide all the spending.

00:17:35.840 They put it all in one big thing called the OmniBus.

00:17:38.520 Omni everything.

00:17:39.880 Bus means it's headed down the road.

00:17:41.640 And they dare you to vote no.

00:17:43.400 Because if you vote no to all the crazy spending bankrupting our country, then you're voting for shutting down the government.

00:17:50.220 And, of course, the ads then in the fall write themselves as your opponents say, oh, representative so-and-so voted to shut down the government.

00:17:58.000 We shouldn't have a choice between bankruptcy and operating.

00:18:02.160 We don't have to bankrupt ourselves, just like in a household.

00:18:05.780 You just limit your spending to pay for the things you can afford.

00:18:09.480 But we're never given the opportunity.

00:18:12.560 Congressman, we know that.

00:18:14.720 You know that.

00:18:15.620 Most of the people in this country know that, that there has not been such a thing as regular order and in memory.

00:18:24.580 There has been no such thing as individual appropriations bills, 12 of which, as you say, are specified and required.

00:18:33.240 So what we have is a corrupt Congress.

00:18:35.720 So that means that Kevin McCarthy, his leadership team, the chairs of each of the committees, are purposely violating the law, as you put it.

00:18:48.160 Because that is law, isn't it?

00:18:49.620 It's law.

00:18:50.280 Yes, it is the law.

00:18:51.160 So we have a group of renegade Republicans, maybe an entire conference full of them, because it's your call.

00:18:58.380 And for some reason, no one's standing up and making that call.

00:19:02.500 And what I suspect is Mitch McConnell has set his tentacles reaching deep into the leadership and right up Kevin McCarthy's nose.

00:19:12.420 And he's afraid that McConnell's going to twist.

00:19:15.740 There's something here that is terribly, terribly wrong.

00:19:19.720 When we continue, I'd like, if I may, Congressman, to ask you to explain to me and to the audience why Republicans impeaching the president of the United States, trying to bring the fiscal policies of this country into some sort of rationality, can't do the simplest thing, which is follow the law.

00:19:40.140 We'll be right back.

00:19:41.020 We're talking with Congressman Scott Perry.

00:19:42.760 Stay with us.

00:19:43.520 We'll be right back.

00:19:44.360 We'll be right back.

00:19:49.720 We're back now with the head of the Freedom Caucus, Congressman Scott Perry, great American.

00:19:55.340 Congressman, how is it that the Republican Party cannot organize itself around the very simple principle, follow the law, do what's right and best for the nation?

00:20:06.160 Each individual member, Lou, you know, votes for their district.

00:20:10.800 And, of course, their district get things out of the other districts, right?

00:20:15.420 It's all taking from this district to give to that district, whether it's earmarks, as you know, which were brought back.

00:20:21.620 I do not accept any.

00:20:22.820 I don't go fight for any of those.

00:20:24.980 But that's what it is.

00:20:26.140 And what they love to do is do it under the cover of, well, it was in this other bill.

00:20:31.860 I didn't have any choice.

00:20:33.180 And leadership knows that.

00:20:34.880 The members know that.

00:20:35.860 They love that circumstance because there's no accountability.

00:20:39.640 And so what we've been trying to do for the better part of this year, and you're seeing the kind of culmination of that right now,

00:20:45.820 is to shine that spotlight and the disinfecting light of truth on these votes and these members so that their constituents can see.

00:20:58.920 And that's what the Constitution gave us.

00:21:01.060 If their constituents are going to continue to send people that want to bankrupt the country, I can't change that.

00:21:07.460 But what I can change is the fact that their constituents might not know.

00:21:12.140 And so we want everybody to see every vote.

00:21:14.260 So, Lou, I'll give you a case in point.

00:21:16.220 We had an amendment on the floor to stop paying for Ukraine's sovereign debt.

00:21:21.700 This is debt that was incurred by Ukraine prior to the war with Russia.

00:21:26.680 That amendment failed.

00:21:28.320 There were Republicans and Democrats that voted against that amendment.

00:21:32.040 Keep in mind, and you know this, Lou, we're borrowing money from China to pay for Ukraine's debt.

00:21:38.800 You couldn't make this stuff up.

00:21:40.380 I mean, my goodness, if we're going to borrow money from anybody to solve somebody's debt, let's at least solve our own.

00:21:46.960 Citizens need to see these kind of things before they're going to understand the swampiness and the depravity at which this rot has taken this legislature and this form of government.

00:21:59.440 They have to see it in their face, and that's what we're trying to show them.

00:22:02.760 Well, and good for you in doing so.

00:22:06.400 What I wonder is the spectacle of this impeachment, these votes to give an impeachable president everything that he asked for.

00:22:19.020 That is cognitive dissonance on any level.

00:22:23.100 That is madness writ large across Capitol Hill.

00:22:29.460 And yet there is, it seems, no embarrassment.

00:22:32.260 There is no concern.

00:22:34.880 And the omnibus bill is just roaring down the tracks at us, isn't it?

00:22:39.080 Do buses run down tracks?

00:22:40.440 I may have mixed a metaphor there.

00:22:42.300 You get the drift of what I'm saying.

00:22:44.520 Yeah, well, at this point, that's how it's been done, year after year after year.

00:22:50.140 But we are committed and we are firm in our resolve that we are not going to allow it.

00:22:56.440 Now, we only have one half the equation, so that's the other part of this puzzle that we have to solve.

00:23:01.460 So let's just say that we finally force Speaker McCarthy to get all these bills on the floor and we consider them, they get through, et cetera.

00:23:08.940 The House has then moved 12 bills.

00:23:11.080 What do we do with the Senate that has moved zero bills?

00:23:14.520 The House can't force them to.

00:23:16.660 And so we're going to get to the end of this 45 days.

00:23:20.040 Let's just say we get to the end of the 45 days.

00:23:22.360 We've got our work done.

00:23:23.320 We've got 12 bills at least moved through the House in some fashion.

00:23:27.700 What do we do with the Senate that doesn't move any bills?

00:23:30.160 How do we hold them accountable?

00:23:31.580 So the only way I think we're going to be able to do it is to be able to raise the flag and say, here's the bills that we wrote.

00:23:38.140 We're not interested in shutting the government down.

00:23:41.240 What's the Senate doing?

00:23:42.320 What is Chuck Schumer?

00:23:44.660 And quite honestly, the Uniparty, including some of our colleagues on our side of the aisle that work in the Uniparty, what have they done?

00:23:52.960 You know who I'm talking about.

00:23:54.120 Sure.

00:23:54.840 Mitch McConnell.

00:23:55.740 What have they done to move these bills so that America can see where their money is going and who's responsible for it?

00:24:03.140 And I think that's what we're going to be facing.

00:24:05.420 But I think we have to be clear eyed about that proposition and be ready for that battle, because I think it's coming.

00:24:12.140 I hope it's coming.

00:24:13.900 I hope it isn't just a rollover.

00:24:15.920 I hope it's a battle.

00:24:17.880 And I think that the Republicans, if I may say, in my judgment, there's a subtext here.

00:24:24.720 And that just beneath every Republican's chin, there's a there's a statement.

00:24:30.040 I'm scared to death of shutting down the government.

00:24:33.440 Oh, yeah.

00:24:34.140 Right.

00:24:34.280 And so as long as the Republicans feel that way, I don't think it's like going into battle, I would assume, saying, oh, my gosh, I better not raise my head up out of this foxhole.

00:24:46.000 They said charge.

00:24:46.880 But here I am.

00:24:47.980 No, it's actually worse than that.

00:24:50.980 It's going into battle.

00:24:52.080 But first, sending a telegram to your enemy and letting them know that as long as they put up any resistance, you're going to be willing to surrender.

00:24:59.940 You know, the only reason these fights happen is when Republicans are when Republicans are in charge is because Republicans, at least some of us, demand that we quit bankrupting the country.

00:25:11.300 And so then you have these impasses.

00:25:13.060 They always Democrats say, oh, it's, you know, shut down Republicans.

00:25:16.100 It only happens when Republicans are in charge.

00:25:18.320 They're not necessarily wrong about that, but they never tell you the other side of the story.

00:25:22.380 The other side is, is that when Democrats are in charge, they never want to.

00:25:26.560 There's not one Democrat that wants to save one penny.

00:25:29.080 Their argument is over how much more to spend, but they're going to spend more every single time.

00:25:35.080 That is the difference.

00:25:36.480 We've got to expose this so the American people can understand it and and and can see that their votes matter, who they send to Washington matters.

00:25:46.220 And what they say on the campaign trail doesn't often match what they do in Washington, D.C.

00:25:51.980 But again, the American people know that, Congressman.

00:25:54.720 I promise you they actually know it.

00:25:56.880 The American people are a hell of a lot smarter than they're given credit for on those acres, you know, where you reside up there now for a good part of the year.

00:26:05.720 People understand and the polls reflected 70 percent of the American people in some of the most important surveys of this year acknowledge, acknowledge that this is a politically motivated set of indictments against Donald Trump.

00:26:22.840 They're not fooling anybody.

00:26:24.340 And also the majority of people understand what the issue is in terms of who's the cause of inflation, who should be held responsible for the dysfunctional government.

00:26:35.180 By the way, the ABC News Washington Post poll, not exactly conservative entities, their poll showed more Americans by 10 percent will blame the Biden White House and the Marxist Dems for any shutdown that follows.

00:26:53.100 Now, I don't know if anybody in the Republican Party has been paying attention to this or not.

00:26:57.520 The Democrats are in a terrible way.

00:27:00.140 And the only way they can prevail is if they if if the Republican conference is overwhelmed by rhino thought leaders and the conservatives sort of say, well, you know, I've got to go educate folks because they're not as smart as I am. 0.63

00:27:15.580 The truth of the matter is, those people are a hell of a lot smarter than most of the congressmen in the United States on Capitol Hill.

00:27:24.660 I'll put it that way.

00:27:25.680 I'm talking about the Democrats, obviously, not the Republicans.

00:27:28.840 Republicans are exempt for my criticism.

00:27:32.880 Well, you know, I'm an equal opportunity criticizer.

00:27:37.140 And when our side doesn't get the work done in a timely fashion, there are due criticism.

00:27:42.200 But I would say this. There's a bunch of people rotting in jail right now and being persecuted by the federal government for for the crime of obstructing an official proceeding.

00:27:53.360 But when a member of the Democrat Party goes and pulls the fire alarm because he wants to slow us down in Congress, somehow that's a mistake.

00:28:02.100 Lou, as you know, we see that clearly for what it is.

00:28:05.540 And it is this this double standard of no justice in America where some people are connected and and get a pass at breaking the law and other people who barely even maybe questionably didn't even break the law were invited into the Capitol.

00:28:21.440 They go to jail. American people are done with that.

00:28:25.020 Yeah, I would like to hear every Republican, every Republican walk onto that floor and ask who and have Jamal Bowman there.

00:28:34.460 Just say who who in here is above the law.

00:28:38.180 And then I would demand I think you guys are too nice.

00:28:41.980 I really do. Why not hold that S.O.B. up for what he is?

00:28:46.820 OK, he violated a process.

00:28:49.660 He obstructed official proceedings.

00:28:53.100 And you know what? You guys are going to talk about that that nuanced bit of irony and hypocrisy.

00:28:58.460 I say, you know, point straight at him and say, you know what?

00:29:04.000 I think this this the sergeant at arms ought to be marching him off until we decide what's going on.

00:29:09.940 But, well, that's just me.

00:29:11.940 Federal crime. It is a federal crime.

00:29:13.620 And if Lou Dobbs or any of your friends had done it, I suspect you'd already be cooling your heels behind bars.

00:29:20.600 Oh, I'd I'd be in solitary.

00:29:22.900 I'd probably be in Siberia by now if they got me on that one. 0.97

00:29:26.560 We're talking with Scott Perry.

00:29:28.640 He's the head of the Freedom Caucus, a great American and a great guy.

00:29:31.760 We're coming right back with him.

00:29:33.020 Just stay with us one more moment.

00:29:35.260 We're back now talking with Congressman Scott Perry.

00:29:43.620 And I just want to say, first of all, how great it's been to talk with you here today.

00:29:47.600 And I know you've got a you've got a you've got a mess on your hands up there on Capitol Hill.

00:29:54.100 When is the Republican Party going to straighten out?

00:29:57.460 You've got this.

00:29:59.220 I thought there'd be a deal that could be honored.

00:30:00.920 I was naive enough to think that with all that happened in the in finally negotiating the speakership, that McCarthy would keep his word. 0.83

00:30:10.920 Well, he's awful. 1.00

00:30:11.760 He's obviously a liar and a two faced coward. 1.00

00:30:15.960 And you guys don't want to talk unkindly about him, but that's what he is. 0.99

00:30:21.380 Why don't you why don't you throw him into the impeachment process?

00:30:24.640 Tell me this.

00:30:29.760 How in the world are you going to find leadership that can get to work for this country?

00:30:33.140 Because you've got you've got three investigating committees and a subcommittee when weaponization.

00:30:38.860 They're doing great work.

00:30:40.360 But there is an alarm going off right now.

00:30:43.980 Time is running out.

00:30:45.500 It's running out on the budget.

00:30:47.180 It's running out on the funding of this government.

00:30:49.900 It's running out on those on on a successful impeachment of Joe Biden and his corrupt administration.

00:30:57.640 Why isn't there a fire blazing right now in us in the guts of every every Republican on Capitol Hill?

00:31:05.580 I think there is in half of them, Lou, maybe a little less than half of them.

00:31:09.320 But there's a bunch that come from these Biden districts that hear a different story when they go home and they want to come back to Congress.

00:31:16.500 They want to get reelected and they they don't see the same things that that you and I do.

00:31:21.840 They're hearing different different input from their bosses, their constituents.

00:31:26.420 I can tell you when I go home, my constituents are furious.

00:31:30.700 They've had enough of the high prices.

00:31:32.580 They've had enough of the persecution.

00:31:34.380 They've had enough of the lawlessness by by this administration.

00:31:38.000 And they want us to cut their funding and send a message to them that we're not going to abide by this, that our money is not going to be spent destroying our country.

00:31:48.880 Unfortunately, like I said, we had five of these spending bills on the floor.

00:31:53.060 The one that did the most good was the one that didn't pass because many of my colleagues and Lou, not one Democrat voted for it.

00:32:01.240 Right. You can't count on them to do any of that.

00:32:03.400 Right. But but you can't count. You can't count on Republicans to do the right.

00:32:08.080 But that's what I point. When you lose Republicans over a bill that that trims loop, we're going to we're spending seven point two trillion dollars this year and taking in five trillion or five trillion in revenue.

00:32:21.180 Right. So what what we're trying to get our conference to do instead of spending seven point two is to spend seven point one.

00:32:29.600 It's still two point one trillion over and they're fighting us tooth and nail.

00:32:34.400 They don't want to cut one thing. Most of these programs didn't even exist 20 years ago.

00:32:39.300 If we became a great nation over a couple hundred years without these programs, why can't we live without them now?

00:32:46.020 And even if you can't live without them, can you live without as much of them?

00:32:50.440 They won't even do that. And so this is the fight that we're having over pennies, over pennies, Lou.

00:32:57.140 It is it is absurd. And it's all within our own party.

00:33:00.820 Like I said, the left will not help at all. They want to spend more.

00:33:04.480 And they will. They will. They will.

00:33:06.860 And and I can't wait to hear what happens when the funding is signed up and Biden gets everything asked for.

00:33:15.240 I because I think the first thing that a defense attorney for the president in that impeachment inquiry or if it does turn into impeachment proceedings to say, why are you people even here?

00:33:24.800 If my if my if my client, the president, United States, is so corrupt, so impaired, so compromised.

00:33:32.520 Why in the world did you give him seven point two trillion dollars?

00:33:37.200 That was that. Why would you do that?

00:33:40.160 This makes no sense. And the American people understand it.

00:33:42.580 And so let please my client, this great, faithful American who has the support of everyone in the Republican conference or almost everyone.

00:33:53.920 How could we possibly be impeached?

00:33:56.700 Thank you very much. And we're going home now to the White House.

00:34:00.200 And you all just continue with your squabbling over the margin.

00:34:04.220 Do you see what I mean?

00:34:05.260 Absolutely. And, Lou, you know, this probably as well.

00:34:08.540 Talking to other folks, we have Republican members of the Judiciary Committee, the Oversight Committee.

00:34:14.620 They won't they won't impeach Mayorkas. 0.99

00:34:17.500 They don't want to entertain impeachment inquiry into the president.

00:34:21.060 And it's not enough that they tell us they go out and tell the Wall Street Journal and CNN.

00:34:27.040 And then I got to listen to the president's spokesperson say, see, this inquiry is all you know, it's all misguided.

00:34:35.020 You know how I know? Because Republicans are saying it's misguided.

00:34:38.660 This is what I have to work with.

00:34:40.660 This is this is what this is what makes it.

00:34:43.500 We expect that out of the left and Democrats.

00:34:45.640 We don't expect that out of Republicans who can clearly see the same facts with their own eyes that Lou Dobbs and its audience can see.

00:34:54.640 Well, if we're saying it, let me tell you, it's pretty obvious.

00:34:57.760 And it's pretty obvious.

00:34:59.120 Pretty obvious.

00:34:59.560 The fact of the matter is that we're coming up on.

00:35:03.200 Well, we'll we'll soon be at 45 days, November 17th.

00:35:09.380 What's going to happen in the interim?

00:35:11.320 What is going what is going to change?

00:35:13.520 What is it that or is it just going to be we're all sitting there waiting for the bus, the omnibus?

00:35:19.620 Well, you know, I guess they'll do that with Democrats because guys like me absolutely will not vote for that.

00:35:27.260 The House has to pass these 12 bills to be on the moral high ground to say we have followed the law.

00:35:32.340 We have upheld our promise.

00:35:33.920 It's a little late, but that's where we are.

00:35:36.080 And if the Senate doesn't do it, the Senate has to own this and the Senate will be responsible for shutting the government down. 0.73

00:35:42.920 And then I hope we can force the Senate to eat some actual spending reductions and border security, force them to take that, force the president to sign that into law, force them to help writing the ship.

00:35:56.820 Even though he's only going to be here for, you know, one short but long year, he's got essentially one year left.

00:36:03.960 But let's force him to start doing the right thing because we have done the right thing.

00:36:08.360 That's what needs to happen at the end of this 45 days.

00:36:13.100 And to that short year that you talk about, one short year, all Americans have seen the just vast damage that he has done to this country, his efforts to destroy the whole the whole kit and caboodle.

00:36:26.820 As it were, he did a lot in just a very short period of time.

00:36:31.540 His first year, we're looking at millions of illegal immigrants.

00:36:34.740 We're looking at trillions of dollars more in the national debt.

00:36:37.560 We're looking at devastating inflation.

00:36:39.760 And the list goes on.

00:36:41.600 And we're talking about one short year.

00:36:45.640 I sure hope it's short and I hope it isn't a year either.

00:36:50.580 Congressman Scott Perry, we always give our guests the last word.

00:36:54.200 Your your thoughts.

00:36:55.200 My thoughts are this.

00:36:57.280 I hope the American people and Lou, your audience certainly does know that we can't keep going under the system we have where we do these omnibuses and a few people at the top decide all our spending.

00:37:09.680 The American public gets fleeced for things that they can't afford and don't want.

00:37:13.920 And we go further into debt, empowering China and our other enemies. 0.99

00:37:18.600 Call up your representative and say, we want to cut this spending, even if it involves things that involve my state, things that programs that I have participate in.

00:37:27.700 It's just too much.

00:37:28.960 We can't afford it.

00:37:30.340 My neighbor can't afford it.

00:37:31.580 Maybe I can.

00:37:32.540 But my neighbor can't afford it.

00:37:33.880 I'm demanding that you find some savings here in this budget where we're going to spend two point two trillion dollars more than we bring in this year.

00:37:42.840 It is unacceptable.

00:37:44.160 Do not agree with Joe Biden.

00:37:45.960 Do not agree with Chuck Schumer.

00:37:47.800 Do not agree with the guy that pulled the fire alarm.

00:37:50.960 Pull your own fire alarm and stop and put this fire out.

00:37:54.380 Stop the bankrupting of our country.

00:37:57.820 Congressman Scott Perry.

00:37:59.180 Thanks so much for being with us here.

00:38:00.680 We appreciate it.

00:38:01.660 And God bless you.

00:38:03.180 Thank you, Lou.

00:38:03.780 God bless you and your audience.

00:38:05.500 Thanks, everybody, for being here today.

00:38:07.340 Tomorrow, we're joined by the great political strategist of Trump advisor and bestselling author Roger Stone.

00:38:14.180 Please join us for that tomorrow and each and every weekday.

00:38:17.880 Follow me on Twitter and Truth Social at Lou Dobbs on Facebook and Instagram at Lou Dobbs Tonight.

00:38:23.400 And be sure to check out the all new Lou Dobbs dot com. 0.99

00:38:26.900 Thanks, everybody.

00:38:27.700 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - October 03, 2023

DEPRAVITY IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR D.C.

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