GIULIANI： DEMS HIJACKING NH PRIMARY
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On today's show, Lou Dobbs talks about the Democratic Party's attempt to delegitimize President Trump and his supporters. He also discusses the dangers of the "China virus" and how it could have a major impact on the economy.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you
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Tonight. And now the globalist elites all gathered this week in Davos, Switzerland for the World
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Economic Forum. Surrounded by their fellow oligarchs and led by their hair professor, Klaus Schwab.
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They used the forum to figure out how the rich could get richer and how to push a socialist agenda
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across the world. One of corporate America's most powerful bankers, Jamie Dimon, in attendance at the
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forum this week, in between mingling with his fellow oligarchs, he sat down to talk with CNBC
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and he went after the Marxist Dems and gave a reluctant endorsement, but at least it's an endorsement
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I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA,
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you know, and if you travel this country, you know, and the country's unbelievable. We took
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our bus trip this year and Leslie Picker was on Spokane and Boise and Bozeman. People are growing,
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they're hungry to grow, they're innovating. It's everywhere. It's not just Silicon Valley. So
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we've got this great hand. But when people say MAGA, they're actually looking at people voting for
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Trump and they think they're voting and they're basically scapegoating them, that you are like
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him. And, but I don't think they're voting for Trump because of his family values. And if you look,
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just take a step back, be honest. He was kind of right about NATO, kind of right about immigration.
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Tax reform worked. He was right about some of China. I don't, I don't like what he did.
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Yeah, I understand. He may have been right. And I don't like how he said things in Mexico. I don't
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like, but he wasn't wrong about some of these critical issues. And that's why they're voting
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for him. And, and I think people should be a little more respectful of our fellow citizens.
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And when you guys have people up here, you should always ask the why, not like it's a binary thing.
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You're supporting Trump. You're not supporting Trump. Why are you supporting Trump?
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It's hard to hate 75 million of your fellow Americans.
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And you know, the Democrats have done a pretty good job with the deplorables hugging onto their
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Bibles and their beer and their guns. I mean, really, like, can we just stop that stuff and
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actually grow up and treat other people to respect and listen to a little bit? And I do think the
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economy will affect. And I think this, this negative talk about MAGA is going to hurt Biden's
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Diamond seems to be taking a new perspective on American politics. Have you noticed? Although,
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as you heard him say, he didn't agree with President Trump on China.
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That's because Trump treated China as the threat it is. Diamond treats China as though it were his
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master. Diamond, in his praise of Trump, even had a take on illegal immigration. Take a listen.
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If you do not control the borders, you are going to destroy our country. And so I think the people
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who think that somehow is OK. So now, you know, they're sending the immigrants into New York and
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stuff like that. All of my super liberal friends. Now they realize what a problem is. Did it have to be
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that? Diamond was one of the few in attendance to praise President Trump. BlackRock, which is the
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world's largest investment company, doesn't share the same sentiment that Diamond does. BlackRock
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Vice Chairman Philip Hildebrand telling Davos that if President Trump is reelected, it could challenge
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Europe fundamentally, given Trump's determination to embrace America first in matters from trade to
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diplomacy, NATO funding and climate policy. That's right. Indeed, President Trump would. Under President
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Trump, America will not be the world's policeman again and certainly not the world's piggy bank.
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Also in attendance at the forum this week is newly elected President of Argentina, Javier Malay. Malay is
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often referred to as the Donald Trump of Argentina. He didn't hold back from calling out the globalists
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for who they are. He warned that the Western world is in danger because those who are supposed to defend
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the values of the West have been co-opted by a vision of the world that inextricably leads to socialism
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and thereby to poverty. Unfortunately, in recent decades, motivated by some well-meaning,
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the Western world is in danger. And it is in danger because those who are supposed to have to
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defend the values of the West are co-opted by a vision of the world that inextricably leads to socialism
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and thereby to poverty. Unfortunately, in recent decades, motivated by some well-meaning individuals
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willing to help others and others motivated by the wish to belong to a privileged caste,
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the main leaders of the Western world have abandoned the model of freedom for different versions of what
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we call collectivism. We're here to tell you that collectivist experiments are never the solution
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to the problems that afflict the citizens of the world. Rather, they are the root cause.
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I often call some people on this show great Americans. Malay is a great Argentinian. And we
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have newly released audio that gives more insight into that phone call that led to Secretary of Defense
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Lloyd Austin being taken to the hospital ever so quietly. Here it is. Fairfax County 911. Where is
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your emergency? Yes, ma'am. So my name is and I work for and I am requesting an ambulance to be taken
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aid in court. Okay, and that looks like it's a single family home. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay,
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and it looks like that's a residence. Is that correct? That's correct. And I can I can I ask that can
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the ambulance not show up with lights and sirens? We're trying to remain a little subtle. It seems
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Austin's plan throughout was to keep it a secret that he was sick and would be hospitalized, hiding
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it from both the president and the rest of the world. Austin ultimately wound up spending two weeks
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in the hospital after surgery for prostate cancer. Next week, the first primary of the season in New
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Hampshire and President Trump is full steam ahead. The president has a pack scheduled full of rallies in the
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granite state over the next few days as he's expected to win the state handily. Our guest today is America's
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mayor Rudy Giuliani. Rudy, thank you for being with us. Let's start with what's going on first of all on the
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campaign trail because I'm still excited about that huge victory for President Trump in the Iowa caucuses
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because it shut up a bunch of idiots in the left-wing media. A historic win more than doubling the previous
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record margin of victory. Your thoughts about it, Rudy? Well, my thoughts are this is so ridiculous
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that, you know, they really they really want to run against him, right? You bet. And why are they
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indicted? Why do they indict him four times? They want to run against him. You don't indict somebody four
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times that you want to run against. I mean, it's totally ridiculous. He frightens the living daylights out
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of them. That's why they're trying to hijack New Hampshire now by bringing in all kinds of
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Democrats to vote. I mean, last week they were registering Democrats as Republicans. They had up
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until Friday of last week to do that. And now they can get the independent-leaning Democrats to vote in
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the Republican primary. That's the only chance they have to narrow it. Among Republicans, Trump is
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probably beating them both by the same amount, 30, 35, 40 percent. So it's pretty clear the Republican
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Party wants Donald Trump as their standard bearer and their candidate. And I don't know why Nikki Haley
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and DeSantis are trying to aid Joe Biden, who is clearly demented, in being elected president again.
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Yeah, he's his impairment is is obvious to all who pay any attention at all. Even a glance will tell you
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that. And as to why, why Governor Ron DeSantis wants to be made fun of for another week is beyond me.
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Nikki Haley is a distant third from the president. Yeah. And she's acting like she is some sort of
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hope for the Republican business establishment. It's just crazy.
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I hope she does better in New Hampshire on what the causes of the Revolutionary War were
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than she did on the causes of the Civil War. And, you know, she's in the state that per capita
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lost the most people in the Civil War. And I believe it or not, that one really hurt her there.
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I mean, couldn't be a worse place for that kind of an ignorant statement.
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Yeah. Ignorant is the word and ignorant she was. But what I can't figure out is why she thought there
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was any other answer but slavery. I mean, they're just what what kind of decision treaty you go
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through to come up and leave out. I'm going to leave slavery out of the Civil War. It was
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mind boggling. But, you know, she also pulled another good one, Rudy. And that's when she said
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that she changes personality depending on the state she's campaigning in. I can't. Truth speaks
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loudly. But that thing was roaring across across the country. Sounds like Hillary when she tries to
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put on like a black accent. I'd rather. Well, at least she stopped short of that, at least as far as
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we know. And as we look at the president, I, my gosh, Rudy, we've both known him a long time.
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This man has got stamina. We knew that he has got courage. He's, he is strong as a bull. But what
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he's going through, what is he? He's in Iowa. Then the next thing he is in the courtroom, then he is
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back to New Hampshire campaigning. He does a rally that last night. And, and here he is fresh as a
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daisy. You know, I probably know that part of him as well as anyone since I spent virtually 24 hours a
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day with him for four months in 2016. I used to worry about him. I don't anymore. He thrives on this.
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He gets better. The more, it's the strangest thing. And I, it's absolutely true. The more pressure,
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the better he gets. And he's improving. If that's possible, his speech the other night was one of his
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best. His, his rally the day or two before it was one of his best. And I was there at the first one.
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So I can rate them all. I mean, he's getting, if it's possible, he's getting better.
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Yeah, he is. And you know where he showed, showed me how much better he's gotten.
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He's in the courtroom with a judge who's just issued a gag order against him. And he can't say
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anything about anything. And he had a list of about a dozen things, starting, of course,
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who didn't want him talking about him at all. And he takes control of the closing arguments in the
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trial that Ingeron is running like a kangaroo court or a Soviet style show trial. And he just,
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he wipes the place clean of all of the BS and pretense and says, you know, I'm an innocent man.
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And you guys are a bunch of crooked fools. And he was right.
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Yeah. And now look at what's happening in Georgia.
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That thing is turning out. It's like falling apart completely with, it looks like there's a
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chance. I mean, these are only allegations. So we'll have to say they're only allegations.
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And they're presumed innocent. But so am I and the president, by the way, presumed innocent.
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The two alleged lovers there want to put us in jail for the rest of our lives.
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And it is somewhat annoying if this is true, that they were making a fortune
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on trying to destroy us falsely. You know, it's one thing for it to be politics, but
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stealing all this money. And the emphasis really should be on the stealing of the money,
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not their love affair, if there was one. That's a lot of money they were taken for very,
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very nice vacations. And they had an extra grand jury that wasn't necessary.
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That first grand jury that I appeared before couldn't recommend an indictment. Now,
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I know something about grand juries. I never heard one that couldn't recommend an indictment.
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So my guess is that was to kind of build up the expenses, get it from $300,000 to $600,000 or $700,000.
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All right. Well, $700,000 is what we're going to talk about next, because that's part of the
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fascinating set of subjects within this story. Fannie Willis, her special, I call her very own
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special counsel, we'll be taking that up with Rudy Giuliani in just a moment. Stay with us.
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We're back now. We're talking with Rudy Giuliani. And Rudy, the Fannie Willis affair,
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I guess we could call it the Fannie Willis scandal. She is in a world of trouble. And her,
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I think you want to call him, I call him special counsel, Mr. Wade. What do you call him?
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Very special. I think we'll go with yours, because very special seems to be where he was. He's
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making, this is a guy who doesn't really have a record of excellence or accomplishment in law.
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In fact, he's never tried a federal case in his life. And somehow he's making over $600,000
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consulting the district attorney who is sponsored, of course, by George Soros.
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Well, he's actually was brought in for a highly unusual grand jury. He was brought in for a
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grand jury before the grand jury that could recommend to the grand jury, which accomplishes
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two things. It doubles the expenses. So there's more money for vacations, allegedly for Fannie and
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a very special counsel. But it also pushed the case over into the election year. So you got to watch
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that special grand jury very carefully now. And this probably was done with consultation with the
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White House, because the very special counsel who knows nothing about RICO, nothing about felony
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prosecutions. It's got to know something about politics. It goes down to the White House for two
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meetings with the White House, I think, counsel. So I've never I've never heard of a case being
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coordinated with the White House counsel's office. So what do you think they were coordinating about?
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Well, it worked out for everybody. They they made allegedly lots of money so they could go to
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very fancy places and they got to push right into the election year so they could interfere with
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the election. So it was like two for one for the Democrats there.
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And they could have boosted those that leverage, too, because if if Fannie and her very special
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counsel on those lavish vacations and to those extravagant bills that they were getting, you know,
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if they were actually deducting that vacation because they were discussing the case, I mean,
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that would be quite a remarkable. Well, we'll have to see. I mean, I do think the case has to be
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dismissed. How about a legal theory like it stinks? Say it again. It's the high heaven of corruption.
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I mean, it's but of course, what would you expect from Atlanta and Fulton County? I have said from the
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very beginning, going back to the election cases and everything else, they picked very crooked
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Democratic cities to play their games and Fulton County would fit right in there. And that was typical
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of Fulton County. And I don't know where the hell the governor is, except he's out of the country
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right now. Yeah, he's in Davos. I mean, you know, he's in Davos. And meanwhile, his state is
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reeking of corruption. Yeah, reeking of corruption. And by the way, there is a hearing that's going to
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be held as early as next month on on Fannie Willis and and specifically on the issue of her very special
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counsel and where that money went. And we haven't even talked about that 14 and a half, well, 14.6
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million dollars. That was a Department of Justice grant to her office, the district attorney's office
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in 2020. And where did that money go? Was it being used to go after Rudy Giuliani, 16, 17 others had
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President Trump? It's interesting that it lasted for three whole years now. And that this is very
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expensive. As you said, one grand jury is expensive, two gets to be lavish.
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Yeah. And, you know, excuse me, a little personal resentment since they want to put me in jail for the
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rest of my life. Yeah. For doing nothing wrong but being a lawyer. It's a little extraordinary. They
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don't ever look that it looks like the real allegations of crime are the prosecutors, not the
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people they're prosecuting. Have you ever seen the like? I mean, the prosecutors, whether you're
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talking about DOJ prosecutors, whether you're talking about Fannie Willis and Fulton County,
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whether you're talking about Letitia James, the attorney general, the Manhattan district attorney,
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for crying out loud. This is outrageous. It's it's coordinated. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look,
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I keep pointing out Garland would not have picked Smith if he wanted an ethical prosecutor. Smith has
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a record as an unethical prosecutor documented by a nine nothing decision of the Supreme Court
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in which he was excoriated for for prosecuting the governor of Virginia, who then turned out to have
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his case thrown out nine nothing after his career was ruined. So now if you're looking for, you know,
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a squeaky clean prosecutor, you don't go pick a guy with a record like that unless you're looking
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for a guy to fix a case for it. Yeah. How do you get a special counsel, a prosecutor that's,
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you know, ethical and clean when most of the prosecutors, I would guess most of the criminal
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division of the Justice Department have been used up going after American citizens, overcharging them,
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absolutely outrageously so that more the D.C. district courts can then over sentence them
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and keep them in jail in perpetuity without a trial date as three years after the event.
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They've done it. They've done they've wreaked havoc on the Justice Department, starting probably with
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Holder and Obama. That's where I really I think my my friend and former colleague Mukasey was probably the
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last real attorney general. Right. An outstanding man, as you say. We're going to take a quick break
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here. We are talking with Rudy Giuliani and we're going to take up why what happened to the legal
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system in this country? We're going to take up can the corruption be as pervasive as it seems to be to
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any of us? We'll take it up with an expert, Rudy Giuliani. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
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We're back now with Rudy Giuliani. Rudy, I want to ask you, I don't understand why the legal profession
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has reached this depth of corruption. It's pervasive. It's in state and federal government
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courtrooms. It is the D.C. Circuit Court, the D.C. District Courts. They're a bastion of Soviet-style
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justice. It's outrageous. How did how did we get to this point? Well, you know, for a long time,
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we've been talking about a two tiered system of justice. Right. Yeah. And the minute you talk
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about a two tiered system of justice, there's no justice at all. Right. Justice has to be the same
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for everyone. And we started this distinction. And I really do think it goes back to Obama and Holder
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and going after the conservatives, that kind of getting ignored. Remember, they were all held in
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contempt and nobody did anything about it. I mean, they get held in contempt and nobody does anything
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about it. And poor Pete Navarro has ankle bracelets put on him for nothing compared to what they did.
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Right. And then I think we just ignored it. I thought it was a terrible mistake not to prosecute Comey
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and struck and his and his lover page. That would have been a good example, might have prevented the
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cover up of the hard drive if they thought there were consequences. But it keeps it's like, you know,
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you keep giving them more room and they take it. Right. We are. President Trump did a very,
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very statesman like thing when he didn't prosecute Hillary Clinton. The very thing they're accusing
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him of, you know, he's going to be a dictator. Well, they're dictators. He withheld doing that.
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Maybe that was a mistake. Maybe she should have been prosecuted. And maybe it would have awakened
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them to the fact that, you know, we're not a bunch of we're not a bunch of weaklings who will just take
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anything they're willing to do. They've destroyed our country as a bastion of justice. We can
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no longer say to the rest of the world, certainly the civilized world, that we have a truly effective
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system of justice, not when it has such different standards for Republicans, Democrats, conservatives,
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people who have money. I mean, the results we get here are embarrassing. They're like a banana republic.
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Yeah. And in some ways, it's even worse because there's so much power.
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The abuse of authority, so much wealth at stake. And when we talk about the abuse of power here,
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it is, again, the Marxist Dems, and they are Marxist and they are authoritarian. They've taken over every
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department of the federal government, including the military. And there isn't an agency that escapes the
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awesome power and influence of the Marxist Dems and their authoritarian puppet.
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Joe Biden is nothing more than an impaired and horribly compromised puppet president.
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He's doing the bidding of Xi Jinping just as sure as shooting. People will scoff at that. And I say to you,
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if you do, go look at every decision he's made in the relationship with communist China and every
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decision he's made, whether it's draining the strategic petroleum reserves so that we have the
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lowest levels there as we're confronting the possibility of three front wars. It's the lowest.
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It's been in four decades and he's selling some of it to the Chinese. Look at his decisions on simply
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dropping the Chinese task force that was supposed to be stopping a Chinese spying and the theft of
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hundreds of billions of dollars in intellectual property every year. I mean, you just go through
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this, go Taiwan. He says, he goes out to make it clear this past week. No, we're not going to,
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we're not going to support Taiwan. We don't support independence. I mean, it's unbelievable.
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You know, and that, as you say all that, the reality is, let's assume for a minute,
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he didn't get any of the money, which is ridiculous because we haven't gone into his
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bank account, but let's assume he didn't. His family got $31 million from red China within the
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last six years. Yeah. It has nothing to do with that. Imagine, imagine during the Cold War,
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if Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan got $31 million from the Soviet Union. They'd have been executed.
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I mean, they'd have been tried for treason. Or their families had gotten $31 million.
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It's ridiculous not to see the connection between, you have to just be purposely ignorant not to see
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the connection between the two things. How about giving up Bagram Air Base, 400 miles from China,
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right here at the beginning of his administration? That one drove me crazy when he did it. I mean,
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400 miles from China, we have one of the most advanced air bases that we had spent billions
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of dollars on. It's got to be a strategic advantage. Milley, the chief of staff, argued against it
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internally. And then, you know, liar that he is, he said it wasn't strategically important. How could an
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air base 400 miles from China not be strategically important? They would think we're really stupid?
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Well, we may be. I mean, seriously. When you look at this administration, they're talking about
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providing support to Israel while they are simultaneously trying to undercut them in the
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fight against Hamas and demanding that they take up a two-state solution to the Israeli-Arab conflict.
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This is madness and arrogance. And who in that administration has the intellect and the
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moral high ground to even suggest and demand what Israel do? It's insane.
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Yeah, it is. And they want to fight a never-ending war in Ukraine.
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They have no plan. I mean, here there is now a certain amount of unrest about Ukraine, rightfully so.
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What you would expect is they'd come to us with a plan. Here's our plan. We're going to win it.
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We're going to compromise. We're not going to compromise, but we're going to get this thing
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over with. Instead, what we got is an endless pipeline of a fortune going to what used to be
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regarded as the second most corrupt country in the world with a leader who has compromised himself.
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Zelensky is a product of the biggest money launderer, Kolomoisky, in the Ukraine and,
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by the way, is in possession of all of the facts about Biden's corruption and other corruption
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in Ukraine, including his predecessor, who got a massive bribe that he's never disclosed.
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So here we are tied up with a bunch of organized criminals in a never-ending war,
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where money goes and there's no accountability for it. He's refused all accountability for the
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money to Ukraine. No wonder they're not winning the war.
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Yeah. You know, it's very simple. They've got to have cash flow,
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and they've got it by the tens of billions over 120 billion.
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And who cares about the people? Nobody. Nobody cares. Even if you cared about the
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people of Ukraine, you'd do something about this. I couldn't agree more. And I don't believe
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any of us can watch all of this money that Biden is throwing at Ukraine and not think to ourselves,
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at least, he's paying off a debt of some kind. And he is, whether it's hush money, that it's,
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you name it, he's in it. And by the way, the border, he's turned it over to the Mexican drug cartels.
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Well, you've been on that one, Lou. I mean, you've been on that one since I remember you way back
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before anybody saw it. I really have to give you great credit there. And it really, maybe it's the
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worst thing of all, because we lose our country when we lose our borders. And we've lost our borders.
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I mean, we don't have a southern border. Yeah, we have, as I say, the cartels on both sides of it
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and the border itself. There's only one man, and you and I both know who that is, President Donald
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Trump. He's the only one with the guts and the brains to lead this country out of this quagmire that
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we're in. We're at the precipice of, I think it's an existential crisis without a doubt. You get the last
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word here, Rudy. Well, I think, I don't think, I don't think you're at all. I wish you were
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exaggerating it, Lou. And I do commend you for many of these things you've been a prophet about.
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And seeing the connection to communism is enormously important. A lot of people see all the disparate
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things that are going on, and they seem terrible and awful. They don't realize there's a connection
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there. There is, and it's a very nefarious connection and an extremely dangerous one. And
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some of it's located in Davos as we speak. Right. It's amazing. The complicity of our elites,
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our globalist elites, our business, you know, in any other country, we would call the voligarchs.
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But these businesses, these corporations, they've got much to answer for. And I think they will.
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Rudy Giuliani, as always, it's great to see you. It's an honor to be with you. I mean,
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you've been in the forefront of this. And it's great to see that so much of it is coming out now.
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Thank God. Amen. Thank you. And God bless you, Rudy. Thanks so much.
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