HAS AMERICA REACHED IT’S TIPPING POINT？
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Biden's corrupt Department of Justice delivered a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden, but the DOJ didn't even blush. They just kept adding sugar to the deal. No jail, no penalties. And it looks like Hunter skates on every rotten criminal act that he's ever committed.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. Welcome, everybody.
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Let's begin with Joe and Hunter Biden. As nearly everyone expected, Biden's corrupt
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Department of Justice delivered a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden. But the DOJ didn't even
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blush. They just kept adding sugar to the deal. No jail, no penalties, and it looks like Hunter
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skates on every rotten criminal act that he's ever committed. Thank you, Daddy and Uncle Merrick.
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The evidence is piling up against President Biden. The cumulative weight of that evidence
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is overpowering. It would have already crushed anyone who isn't a Marxist dem or deep state
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operative or under their protection. And add this to that mountain of evidence. New testimony implicates
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the president and his son. It was released last night by House Ways and Means Committee Chairman
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Jason Smith. Evidence that paints a new picture of how the government has protected the Biden crime
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family. Here's Chairman Jason Smith with that bombshell testimony.
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Whistleblowers claim the Biden Department of Justice is intervening and overstepping when it
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comes to the investigation of the president's son. Despite what whistleblowers described as a clear
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cut case for tax liability on these payments, IRS investigators say they found themselves hamstrung
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internally. The testimony we have just released details a lack of U.S. attorney independence,
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recurring unjustified delays, unusual actions outside the normal course of any investigation,
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a lack of transparency across the investigation and prosecution teams and bullying and threats from
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the defense counsel. This was a campaign of delay, divulge and deny. Whistleblowers say reoccurring
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unjustified delays pervaded the investigation, including an author authenticating a WhatsApp message
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in which Hunter Biden demands payment from Chinese officials, noting that his father is in the room.
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The whistleblowers revealed IRS investigators were told by U.S. attorney Leslie Wolf that because the
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evidence would be found in the guest house of former Vice President Biden, quote, there is no way,
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close quotes, a search warrant for evidence would ever get approved. IRS whistleblowers told this
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committee that crucial information about the investigation was divulged to Hunter Biden's
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attorneys. For example, even an investigator, investigators had probable cause to search a northern
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Virginia storage unit in which Hunter Biden had stored files. Attorneys for Biden were made aware prior to any
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research providing them valuable time to remove any materials that could be useful evidence. Few Americans
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qualify for such soft glove treatment from federal investigators. Testimony shows that U.S. Attorney of
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Delaware, David Weiss, tried to bring charges in the District of Columbia around March of 2022 and was denied.
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Weiss sought special counsel status from the DOJ in the spring of 2022 and was once again denied. Weiss
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sought to bring charges in the Central District of California in the fall of 2022 and had that request
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denied in January of 2023. The whistleblower says felony charges were initially sought for Hunter Biden
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after the IRS investigator read the incriminating message, a WhatsApp message that Hunter Biden sent to
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his Chinese employer, Henry Zhao, on July 30th of 2017. Here's the message, and I quote from the clear
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evidence of wrongdoing. Quote, I'm sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the
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commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now
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before it gets out of hand. And now means tonight. End quote. The Justice Department, upon learning of
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that message, didn't ramp up an investigation of the Bidens. Instead, they decided to slow walk any further
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investigation into that message. And the IRS whistleblower was removed from the case. Politics
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are heating up in Washington, D.C. Joining us now is Republican strategist and pollster John McLaughlin.
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John, great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show. Let's start with first your
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monthly poll out this week. Among a lot of other polling that's out, tell us what you found in your
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latest survey. Well, I think, first of all, there is a good amount of polling going on right now.
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And our new polls, brand new, is just out of the field. We were in the field from the June 15th
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through the 19th. After the, you know, the Biden, what I say is President Biden crossed the line and
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indicted his leading political opponent. And we were in the field of a scientific survey of a thousand
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likely voters across the country as we do every month. And it was modeled after a 2020 turnout.
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So there's more Biden voters from 2020 in this than Trump voters. But Donald Trump is leading Joe
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Biden 49 to 44. And we're not alone. There's a Mark Penn, who was Hillary Clinton's pollster, has
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the Harvard-Harris poll, has Trump ahead by six. There's a Rasmussen Reports poll, has Trump ahead of
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Biden by six. And it's amazing because we write about it on our blog where we talk about how
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basically Biden's great diversion is failing. Because one of the things that I've learned over
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the years in politics, going back to when I worked for Arthur Fingelstein and different candidates, is
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a lot of times when you see a scandal coming for your candidate, you try to create a diversion.
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And Biden's diversion has been indicting Donald Trump because every time the House Republicans
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decide to put out evidence that Biden probably or allegedly took a bribe from foreign countries,
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even when he was vice president, or the fact that the Biden-Penn Center got over $100 million
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from Hunter Biden's clients that were from communist China, or the Burisma bribes when he was vice
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president, where allegedly he got $10 million for him and his son while he was vice president to get
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a prosecutor fired in Ukraine so that Burisma could go public in the United States. Every time something
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like that happens, all of a sudden the Biden's Justice Department decides they're going to indict
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somebody. And it just so happens it's the candidate who's beating them in the polls, and that's Donald
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Trump. And, you know, it's amazing because in our previous survey, we saw 82% of all voters were aware
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of the Biden-Bragg indictment when the Manhattan District Attorney indicted Donald Trump. And in the May 24th
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survey, when we asked him about the John Durham report that vindicated Donald Trump, said there
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was nothing to the FBI and Justice Department investigation of Trump's campaign and Russian
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collusion, only 55% of the voters were aware of that. And when we asked him about that the Biden
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family got these wires that Congressman Comer has proven, only 55% were aware of the money from
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communist China to the Biden family. And what's interesting about that is, if they were aware
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of the money from communist China to the Biden family, 61% of the voters vote for Donald Trump and
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only 33% for Biden. If they're in the 45% that is not aware, which, you know, are the clueless citizens
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that watch CNN or MSNBC, et cetera, they vote for Joe Biden 52 to 33. So censorship and this diversion
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campaign is an important element to the Biden political campaign to beat Donald Trump, because
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if more voters find out about the Biden family corruption, Donald Trump will be elected decisively.
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And in fact, in that May survey, when we asked them, you know, who they're voting for president in the
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first ballot, the uninformed ballot, where it wasn't biased, it was Trump 47, 43. Then when we told them
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about that, the Biden family took, not the Biden family, but say the Biden Penn Center, where they
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found those documents, took over $100 million from Hunter Biden's clients. And, you know, Trump's lead
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goes to 12 points, 49, 37. And this month, in the unbiased ballot, you're seeing Trump going up in
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spite of the fact that he's been indicted and re-indicted by the Biden administration and their
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allies. And it's the voters, what's good is as the voters get the news, they're not being fooled and
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they're voting for Donald Trump for president. They're voting for him. They don't like the way the
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country's going. And the polling within the Republican Party, the hopefuls, there doesn't
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seem to be, there seems to be only one candidate that's even remotely contesting President Trump's
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assured nomination. And that's Ron DeSantis. Well, is this just to be expected when you have
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this many candidates early in the process? No, actually, what's surprising about this,
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first of all, I'd say DeSantis, when you look at our poll numbers that we publish every month in
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January, DeSantis was within 11 points of Donald Trump in the multi-candidate field, where he was,
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Trump was at 42 and DeSantis was at 31. And now DeSantis is at 19 and Trump is at 51. And you've got
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you've got Tim Scott, you know, at five and Nikki Haley at five and Mike Pence around or four,
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five and Haley at four. But, but I mean, I mean, DeSantis is losing support and one-on-one against
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Trump in January, when we asked the question, it was Trump 52, DeSantis 40. Now it's Donald Trump 68 to
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32. It's not even close. So the more the voters see of DeSantis, the less likely they are going to
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vote for him, because he came in on a false premise. He was saying, I can be Trump without
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being Trump, or I could do better than Trump, or, and he really had no message other than,
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and he was saying, I can win and he can't. Well, the polls defy that. Trump's ahead. Trump's ahead of
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the national popular vote. We never saw that in 2016. We never saw that in 2020. It was always a
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battleground state electoral victory that we won in 2016 that we're looking to win in 2020. Right
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now, Donald Trump is out in the head of the popular vote. Why is Ron DeSantis running? Because
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the only thing he's doing now is helping Joe Biden, because he's running negatives at the
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leading candidate who's beating Joe Biden. And so DeSantis, I think you're going to see all the
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candidates pop up as DeSantis has stalled. And, and, and, you know, conservatives have gone back
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to Donald Trump. I mean, when it comes to securing the border, when it comes to growing the economy,
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when it comes to fighting inflation, when it comes to, you know, restoring law and order,
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I mean, Donald Trump has all those bona fides because he was a successful president in those
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regards. And, and, you know, uh, most Republican primary voters think that, you know, there was
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serious fraud in the election. And, and, uh, right now they're, they're, they're looking for vindication.
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They're, they're, they're supporting Donald Trump. And the more that Joe Biden tries to stop Donald
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Trump with these political, uh, persecutions, uh, Donald Trump gets stronger. I mean, I mean,
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seriously, Joe Biden is trying to make, uh, Donald Trump, the Nelson Mandela of America where, uh, uh,
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you know, the Mandela was in prison and he became the most popular person in South Africa and won
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that election. And Joe Biden is trying to keep his family out of prison by putting Donald Trump in
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prison. There's no question about the two tiered justice, uh, system or the one party justice system.
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And that, of course, for the Democrats, this is, it's inescapable. Now the American public sees what's
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happening. They put it in their faces. Uh, I, I never dreamed it would be this bald, raw and proximate,
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uh, to the American voter. Uh, it's going to be interesting to see how this polls, uh, in the months, uh, or two
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ahead. Uh, what do you think? Well, I think, I mean, most voters, the majority of Americans, we've seen
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in our polling where the majority of Americans say that, uh, uh, you know, say that I, I use the
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phrase, it's a double standard and they reject that double standard where they, where they, they
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absolutely, uh, see that, uh, you know, I mean, they, they think there's a big difference between
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the way the justice department, the FBI has treated the investigations into Trump versus president
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Biden, Hunter Biden. And, you know, we've seen in our polling among primary voters, four to five think
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that the radical left has weaponized the justice system to prosecute their opponents. But the other
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part that's more, more visceral, more, more gut level is, you know, they think if you can weaponize
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the justice system against president Trump, they'll be able to do it to any political opponent. So if it
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wasn't Donald Trump right now, if some other Republican was ahead, uh, which would be tough for
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them to endure, cause only Trump could put up with this and have the strength to go through it.
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Uh, most, most voters think that, that Biden and, and, uh, his corrupt allies would do that. And, uh,
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at the same time, they also think that, you know, with Biden in the white house and using the FBI and
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the IRS, they could prosecute average people. I mean, they think they could, you know, I mean,
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they're well aware of the 87,000 IRS agents. They're well aware of, of the misuse and the abuse
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of the FBI. And, uh, the average person is afraid of it because you could be, uh, prosecuted for your
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political thought or beliefs, or you could have the IRS coming after you. I mean, they're tracking,
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the banks are tracking every transaction above $600 now. So, uh, um, you know, Joe Biden wants to have
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an on-diress agent at your house saying, yo, the more in taxes. I think if you're a small business
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owner, if you're a, you know, heck a waiter or a waitress who took cash tips, you can, you know,
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people, people think that this abuse could go on. It's not just Donald Trump, but the, you know,
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as Trump says, they're not just out to, you know, to get him, they're out to get us. And, uh, it's,
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it's an important issue to look at for the future, particularly this election. I mean,
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I wish the election was tomorrow because the majority of, of Americans would reelect Donald
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Trump. Yeah. I think most of us wish it were soon. We're talking with pollster,
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political strategist, John McLaughlin. Stay with us. We're coming right back after these quick messages.
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We're back now. We're talking with John McLaughlin and John, this is a, this poll,
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your monthly poll looks great for president Trump. And I just can't imagine how he feels right now.
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I've talked to him. Uh, I talked to him a week ago with all of the, the incoming that he's dealing
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with. I thought we had seen something when he was being impeached, when the special councils were
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announced. Now he has four active trials. He has one pending still under investigation
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and waiting in the wings. We're sure the Marxist Dems have coordinated another planned legal assault
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against him. Right. I just, this just is incredible to me that he surges in the face of this assault.
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Right. Maybe because of it. Well, it is because people totally, I mean, even a CNN poll, which kind
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of skewed against us and every negative question was asked about Trump, nothing about Biden or the Biden
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family corruption. But in that seven out of 10 voters said they saw the indictment as political.
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And, and so Biden's crossed the line and, and he's got more coming. I mean, this is probably the most
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corrupt president we've seen in the history of the United States, more so than Warren Harding,
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uh, you know, Richard Nixon, who a lot of us liked, but, you know, had to resign because of
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Watergate. I mean, he didn't do anything near as corrupt as what Joe Biden is alleged to have done,
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taking millions of dollars from our, not just foreign interests, but our adversaries and enemies.
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And, uh, you know, the fact that the, uh, Russian oligarchs that gave Hunter Biden money were not
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sanctioned. The fact that, you know, you look at it, who benefited from when Biden surrounded
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in Afghanistan, it was China. Um, you know, Biden wants to get rid of fossil fuel, gas, cars,
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cars, and trucks. Well, who's going to benefit from electric vehicles? The Chinese that make the
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batteries. I, it's, it's just kind of astounding how, how corrupt and how, uh, ill-conceived are
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his policies, because you've got two thirds of the country saying we're on the wrong track, 67%.
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You've got 56% of the voters disapproving of Joe Biden. The job he's doing should be higher.
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So partisan Democrats are hanging with him to some extent. Um, you've got the, say the economy is
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going to get worse and not better, uh, 62 to 31. And inflation has negatively impacted 84% of all
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voters, 44% to the point that they can't afford to meet basic necessities and needs. So, you know,
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when you look at how, how, what the decline of is going on in the United States and you look at the
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polls, you know, this is, this is a, uh, this is a really important fight, a really important election
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for the future of the country. And the working men and women of America who are outside the beltway,
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who are not part of the DC establishment that elected Donald Trump in 2016, look like they're
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coming back with a vengeance. And Donald Trump to his credit is handling all this with poise
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and dignity. And he is determined and, you know, his campaign, he's doing things, basic things in the
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campaign that he wants to win again. And, and, you know, I just have a great deal of respect for his
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courage and his, his tenacity, but, but it's amazing the kind of poise that he's handling this.
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I mean, his political opponent, Joe Biden has had him booked and fingerprinted and mugshot. I mean,
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that's, that's what he's doing to his political enemy. Joe Biden is a disgrace that is happening in
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the United States of America. And it's a disgrace that is happening in our democracy because it
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threatens each and every one of us. Without question. And your polling is showing the impact
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of all of that. And the president, it's interesting, his, his opponents, particularly within the
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Republican party, Bill Barr is eviscerating him every other day. He is, Chris Christie is now joined.
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He makes no bones about it. He's there to try to destroy Donald Trump. By the way, that's the
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purpose of Mike Pompeo as well, because Mike Pompeo is not running, but he is sure glad to go on any
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kind of left-wing television and attack Donald Trump. It's irrational. It is visceral. It is
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barbaric what they're doing. What is, what is behind it?
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It's the DC establishment. If you're, I mean, it's, it's a clear line. If you're part of the
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Washington establishment, whether it's inside the Republican party or just, you know, among the
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Democrats, et cetera, you want to stop Donald Trump because they've been exploiting the working men
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and women in this country for years now. You know, Donald Trump is the one who reversed their bad trade
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deals. I mean, the DC establishment gave China most favored nation status. Donald Trump, you know,
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penalized China with a better trade deal for America with tariffs on Chinese products and goods
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where they were taking advantage of. He renegotiated NAFTA. He threw out a lot of the other bad trade
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deals. But, you know, if, if you're part of America where you saw the factories leaving and good
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paying jobs, leaving America and going to foreign countries, um, these are the guys who profited from
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it. And if you're profiting from China right now with, whether it's, uh, high tech products or whether
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it's, uh, you know, some sort of textile products, et cetera, if you're profiting from that, you have to
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stop Donald Trump. And, uh, the sad part is we've got people who are willing to sell out Taiwan. I mean,
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Anthony Blinken, the secretary of state was over in China with Xi. Biden's too weak to even go meet with
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them. Blinken was getting a million dollars a year from the Biden pen center that the Chinese were
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funding. And, you know, okay. So you indict Trump on classified document, you know, laws that aren't
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even, we're not even sure if they're being applied, right. I'm not a lawyer, but let me tell you,
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there's a lot of good lawyers that are saying this shouldn't be the case. And, and, you know,
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and Blinken's over there negotiating with the Chinese, God knows what he's doing, kissing Xi's butt.
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And, uh, you know, selling out for, from America for Taiwan and selling out our other allies. And,
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uh, and, and, you know, this corruption has to be exposed and, and basically, you know, the,
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like I said, the working men and women of America, the people out in the heartland and the sunbelt,
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they're being exploited, their savings, their dollar, you know, their, our value of our paychecks
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are worth less ever since Joe Biden took office, you know, you may be making more money, but you
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can't keep up with inflation. So this is, it's a disgrace to that point. People forget until Donald
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Trump walked into the white house in early in January 20th of 2017, American wages for 30 years
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had been stagnant, middle-class working men and women and their families were absolutely stiffed
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by corporate America. They're actually a U S multinationals, uh, and wall street, which is
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working just as hard for China as it is for the United States right now. Uh, and once he left,
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Joe Biden stepped in, we're watching the same thing, the impact of inflation, cutting pay.
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We're seeing wages, uh, stagnate. Uh, it is, it's a very difficult situation. And the anomaly is
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the Trump administration for four years, the working man and woman in this country, just as he promised
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we're benefiting. And as you say, that's why wall street and corporate America are scared to death
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of him and why the Republican establishment along with the left are trying to destroy him outright.
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Right. Right. And you, and you wonder if she said, you know, to blink and really, I really hope you
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put, you know, you do what we do in China, you put your political opponents in jail and, you know,
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China's opening up a military base in Cuba, right? 90 miles. They could put nuclear weapons in there
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and there'll be right within striking distance of Florida. And then you got the Biden administration
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negotiating with, uh, uh, with, with Iran again, to give the Iranians a deal that they'll get nuclear
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weapons and they'll threaten our allies. And that, you know, they'll threaten the United States and
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our troops in Europe, et cetera. And, you know, you just, you just look at how naive and how corrupt
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the Biden administration is. And you wonder about the security of the United States and let alone the
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border. Holy cow. I mean, you can't afford, they're kicking veterans out of hotels, homeless veterans
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to, to give, you know, free healthcare and free housing and cell phones to illegal immigrants,
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people who came here to break the law. And you don't know what country they're from and you don't
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know what crimes they've committed. And they're shipping them around the United States and they're
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in communities all over. And it's just wrong. I mean, law abiding citizens are being penalized
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and law breakers are being rewarded. This is, it's just totally perverse. It's, it's unbelievable.
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This is the upside down world that, uh, that Biden, president Biden has brought us.
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We're talking with Republican strategist and pollster John McLaughlin. We'll be coming right
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back after these quick messages. Please stay with us.
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We're back talking with John McLaughlin and John, again, thanks for being with us here on the great
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America show. We're talking about some of the polling and all of the bad, bad news for, for,
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for Biden. And of course, for the United States, but mainstream media, corporate media, legacy media,
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they, if you will, the propaganda media is not putting those, uh, those stories out. The American
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people are struggling to get the truth. Uh, how is it that we, you know, we see the Republican party
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straining to get a story out? Are they going to have to come up with something new and innovative to
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get, uh, the level of corruption of this administration out to the American people or are
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Well, the important thing is, is social media. We have access to that again, because they censored,
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uh, you know, the, the Trump message in the 2020 campaign, when Twitter kicked them off
00:27:05.880
and when Facebook shut us off and Zuckerberg was funding, uh, you know, those, those, uh, drop boxes,
00:27:13.940
et cetera, with $400 million. So you had, you had big tech against us. And now, uh, you know,
00:27:21.140
with, with at least one house of Congress, we're holding them more accountable and more afraid of
00:27:25.520
us. But in the meantime, Elon Musk has taken over Twitter and put Donald Trump back on and allowed
00:27:31.060
him on Facebook has allowed him back on. And, uh, you know, neighbor to neighbor, we're getting
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out that story alone. You know, the, the algorithms are such and the artificial intelligence is such
00:27:41.240
that with Google, et cetera, they try to suppress what we've got out there, but enough of us getting
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out, it just needs to be more. And, uh, you know, we'll see more evidence of that from, you know,
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like media research centers doing important work and all this where we're kind of shaming them that
00:27:56.180
they have to carry the story. And the other part of it is, you know, a lot of these, whether you're
00:28:02.720
a small business or you're a slightly larger business, you're getting hurt by this. And the good
00:28:07.040
part is, you know, when you think about, uh, American consumers, I mean, Bud Light has paid a price
00:28:13.200
for what, for what they were advocating at a time when people are worried about what their
00:28:18.200
children are seeing and doing and, uh, target the same thing. And, uh, you know, you're going to see
00:28:24.540
more of that where the American consumer, uh, doesn't want to be indoctrinated. They want to,
00:28:29.580
they want, they want to have control of what, you know, what their information, they want to have
00:28:33.380
control of their, uh, you know, their dollars and how they spend it. And, you know, I think you see
00:28:39.400
with the rise of blockchain where instead of Facebook and these other social media companies
00:28:45.160
selling our information, you're going to see consumers asking them to buy their information
00:28:51.020
because blockchain allows that to happen. So, uh, we may see some more democratization of, uh,
00:28:58.200
of our economy through that so that the, the average working person gets to, gets to have more
00:29:04.100
of a say collectively and, and, you know, and tell these big corporations that we know better what's
00:29:09.440
in our interest than they do. Yes. And I really believe that, uh, whether it is Anheuser-Busch,
00:29:15.300
the Bud Light, uh, boycott, uh, whether it is Target, you name the, the company, they, they're not
00:29:23.060
only being boycotted now, but the boycott is sticking. There is no change. There is no red linting
00:29:29.780
so far, uh, in the, in these boycotts. They're persisting and they're insistent that the, their
00:29:37.480
values be honored and respected by these corporations that aren't used to that kind of consumer.
00:29:43.700
Yeah. And, and, uh, being a New Yorker who, uh, a New York Bronx Irish Catholic kid who, uh, uh,
00:29:53.100
did not like to see the Dodgers, uh, honor an anti-Catholic bigot group.
00:29:59.240
Uh, they've been losing since this. So, so the Dodgers have been losing since they decided
00:30:04.820
to honor anti-Catholic bigotry. So hopefully, you know, maybe there'll be some common sense in here,
00:30:12.020
you know, at all levels. You're, you're right about the Dodgers. I mean, the pictures of the
00:30:17.740
empty, empty stadium that day were powerful. I, I, I, is there, is there attendance also falling off?
00:30:25.640
Well, the stadium was empty because thousands of Catholics blocked the highway. If you go to
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Dodger stadium, there's one way in, one way out, it's up a hill and, and thousands of Catholics
00:30:35.700
showed up and it's pretty hard to get Californians out of a car, but they did. They, they, you have
00:30:40.960
thousands of them out there blocking the road. So they couldn't honor those people. Um, because,
00:30:47.040
you know, I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's one of those things where, like I said,
00:30:51.820
the average person in America has hit a tipping point where we're be, we're being exploited and
00:30:57.900
we're tired of it. And, uh, you know, we want our values and we, we want our happiness and
00:31:02.860
we want to be left alone by government and not spied on by the government. And, uh, you know,
00:31:08.500
right now, Donald Trump is our blue collar billionaire who, uh, is standing up against
00:31:13.960
them. So, uh, so that's what, you know, when you look at what's going on in America right now,
00:31:18.660
you're, you're seeing a revolt of the masses against the elites. And, uh, you know,
00:31:24.240
and of course we were in Boston for the Yankees game, uh, Friday night and Fenway after you've
00:31:30.940
got black lives matter across a big, you know, a big banner over on the left, uh, left field.
00:31:37.440
It's, it's a whole different, uh, enterprise there in a good old Boston. I love the Red Sox,
00:31:43.980
uh, and I love Boston, but they're just a little liberal. Uh, so we're looking for some counter,
00:31:50.120
some counterpoint of the, in major league baseball. We were talking about polling. Let's go to,
00:31:56.180
uh, to Trump right now with the evangelicals, a lot of noise, uh, a couple of months ago about how
00:32:03.240
the evangelicals were abandoning Trump and going to, for example, DeSantis, uh, your thoughts and
00:32:10.660
your, uh, your polling on that. Oh, it's, it's definitely not true. I mean, we did a poll for the
00:32:16.860
Trump campaign and, and the Iowa caucus is driven by evangelical Christians because if you're a
00:32:23.640
Republican and you're going to go out on a cold January night where there's a blizzard, um, God
00:32:29.480
better tell you to go, but, but Trump is ahead. We had him ahead, like, uh, uh, in Iowa in the
00:32:35.840
multi-candidate field. We, we had him leading, um, you know, 50, 51 to 19 with Tim Scott was coming
00:32:44.060
up. He was at 9% and Mike Pence was at six. Nikki Hill was only a four and Trump was beating DeSantis
00:32:50.320
60 to 33 in that, uh, in that June 12th poll. It was, and, and it, you know, that was, that was a
00:32:58.000
net five point game one-on-one against DeSantis. So Trump is getting stronger with the evangelical
00:33:02.740
vote, particularly where it counts. And what's important about that is the voters can see the
00:33:07.820
hard work by the president and his courageous, uh, poison dignity in the face of these political
00:33:14.880
persecutions. And Christians can relate to this and they, they admire it. And, you know, there's
00:33:21.100
always, there's always a great story about redemption and, uh, Christianity and, uh, Donald
00:33:28.620
Trump is, you know, working for redemption right now for our country and he's getting a lot of
00:33:34.160
support from Christians. So, uh, you know, they recognize he was the, he really has been the most
00:33:39.460
successful pro-life president in the history of our country. Um, his position is like Reagan's where
00:33:45.240
he's pro-life, you know, and he said that before. And, uh, I, I, I don't see the erosion. I, I, if anything,
00:33:56.000
Well, I, I, I get a kick out of the, the media, the national left-wing media, uh, Jonathan
00:34:03.940
Carl at ABC shocked by the, uh, the showing of what was a statistical tie with, uh, with Biden
00:34:10.860
after he was indicted. I, I had no idea that Carl was so either, uh, earnest or disingenuous
00:34:18.620
as to be shocked by that poll. But that is, that is sort of, uh, an exemplary, uh, uh, reaction from,
00:34:27.200
from the, the left-wing media in this country, isn't it?
00:34:30.780
Yes. And we're going to have to start examining some of their polls because they're going back
00:34:36.260
to under-polling Republicans because remember how they said they were wrong in 2016 and 2020
00:34:40.960
because they couldn't get Trump voters on, on the phone. Well, they didn't try. And now you're
00:34:46.300
getting polls like Quinnipiac where they only have 25, they do, they did like almost 2000 adults,
00:34:52.160
not registered voters, not off a list, random digit dial. Uh, and they didn't screen for them if they
00:34:58.100
were likely to vote, but they only had 25% of Republicans. In the exit polls in, in, uh, 2020,
00:35:05.620
we were 36. So you just shorted Donald Trump 11 points because he gets over 90% of Republican
00:35:11.460
support. So you're going to see bad polls again, because right now you go to the real clear politics
00:35:16.580
average. Trump is leading Biden and, you know, the honest pollsters are, are seeing this, you know,
00:35:23.420
this, this, this play out. So, uh, Mr. Carl may get some more shocking in the very near future
00:35:29.440
because the average person is tired of Joe Biden being president. And more than a little tired of
00:35:36.600
a left-wing media, uh, that gets shocked so easily. We're, uh, we're delighted to have you with us,
00:35:43.040
John. Thanks so much for what has been a great, uh, conversation, uh, John McLaughlin. Thanks for being
00:35:48.580
with us. Lou, thank you very much. Keep getting the message out. That's all for us this week. Thanks
00:35:54.020
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00:35:58.960
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00:36:04.760
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