The Great America Show - August 06, 2025


HUGE: The Russia Collusion Hoax was worse than we originally thought!


Episode Stats

Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

162.5744

Word Count

6,992

Sentence Count

447

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Trump administration considers publicly releasing the transcript of a key DOJ interview with a key witness in the Russia collusion investigation. Former FBI Director Robert Mueller, who was tapped to be special counsel to investigate President Trump and the Russia Collusion hoax in 2016, is reportedly living in a memory care facility. Howard Stern is leaving Sirius XM after 20 years.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have you with us. I hope
00:00:06.680 you all are having a great day. We appreciate you spending a part of your evening, night,
00:00:11.520 afternoon, wherever you're joining us from with us here on The Great America Show. Some
00:00:15.780 new details coming out today from the interview that Ghislaine Maxwell did with the Department
00:00:21.540 of Justice just a few weeks ago during her nine hour. Now, this reporting is from ABC
00:00:27.560 News. So for them to be reporting it in favor of Donald Trump, it's probably got to be true,
00:00:33.920 right? During her nine hour of speaking with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, Ghislaine
00:00:39.860 Maxwell said nothing during the interview that would be harmful to President Donald Trump,
00:00:44.260 telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything in her presence that would have caused concern,
00:00:49.480 according to sources familiar with what Maxwell said. Now, the Trump administration is,
00:00:54.840 meanwhile, considering publicly releasing the transcripts from the interview from Ghislaine
00:00:59.100 Maxwell, maybe going as far as releasing the audio from that interview with Maxwell. We'll have to wait
00:01:06.220 and see what they decide to do there. But President Trump, I think, is being as transparent as possible
00:01:12.580 as he possibly could be right now after this whole mishap with Pam Bondi, who decided to absolutely
00:01:20.640 screw the pooch. I don't think it should have gotten this bad. It wouldn't have gotten this bad
00:01:25.120 had Pam Bondi handled it a little bit better. But the good news is, I think we're on the right track to
00:01:30.680 maybe getting things, I guess, fixed, per se. Some other good news happening in America,
00:01:39.980 America's favorite pig, Howard Stern, will be departing Sirius XM after 20 years. It turns out
00:01:49.120 his $100 million contract just wasn't worth paying anymore. Nobody was listening to that weirdo
00:01:54.940 anymore. Nobody wanted to deal with him anymore. So it's apparent that Howard Stern's time has come
00:02:01.300 and gone, just like the rest of the radical lunatic Marxist leftists who have tried to undermine this
00:02:08.300 country, tried to undermine this administration. Good riddance to Howard Stern. I can honestly say I
00:02:15.460 don't think I will miss him, but I'm sure a lot of you guys won't as well. Apple announcing today
00:02:21.500 they're ready to pony up another $100 billion to appease President Trump and his America First agenda.
00:02:30.000 President Trump has been on the backs of American companies, trying to squeak out any dollar they
00:02:37.060 possibly can for these companies to come back and invest in America. So many of them have left over
00:02:42.900 the years, over the years of Barack Hussein Obama, George W. Bush, Joe Biden, departed to other
00:02:50.460 countries for, quite honestly, slave labor. President Trump in his fight for America First, for making
00:02:56.300 America great again, bringing investments back to this country. So it is wonderful that we see it.
00:03:04.320 Yesterday, we told you James Comer, House Oversight Chairman, had subpoenaed a slew of names,
00:03:09.180 Hillary, Bill Clinton, Robert Mueller, Merrick Garland, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch,
00:03:15.960 among other names, to come and testify as for the handling of the Epstein cases while they were
00:03:22.580 all in power. We now find out some interesting news, and we're going to take this up with our guest
00:03:28.260 today in just a few moments, the great Roger Stone, a man who's been at the forefront of the Russia
00:03:34.320 investigation from the inception, quite honestly. We find out today, Robert Mueller, who was the
00:03:40.360 former FBI director, who was tapped to be special counsel to investigate President Trump and the
00:03:45.900 Russia collusion hoax in 2016, is reportedly living at a memory care facility. The news of Mueller's
00:03:53.000 mental health decline comes as Comer has subpoenaed him to show up for a deposition in early September.
00:03:59.480 Paul Sperry, out of Real Clear Investigations, is reporting that for quite some time over the past
00:04:05.260 few years, in fact, Robert Mueller has been living at an assisted care facility, possibly suffering from
00:04:12.240 dementia. Now, obviously, dementia is not good for anybody, and we don't wish it upon anybody. But
00:04:18.700 what we do find concerning is that Robert Mueller was special counsel, and when they hit him, by the way,
00:04:24.580 they kept Roger, Robert Mueller in the basement, just as they kept Joe Biden in the basement for
00:04:30.160 the 2020 campaign. But Mueller, you know, they didn't want to be seen, heard from, only testified
00:04:36.220 once before Congress. And once he did testify, it was apparent why they were hiding him and why they
00:04:41.480 wanted him nowhere in this year. He was slipping up. He was incoherent. Things he was saying didn't make
00:04:48.300 any sense. And now it's apparent the reason that was was because he was probably suffering from the
00:04:54.840 early onset of dementia. So in my opinion, everything that went on in that Russia collusion
00:05:01.620 investigation, the Russia collusion hoax should somehow be overturned. Now, I don't know how you
00:05:07.060 recuperate the money for people like Roger Stone, who were forced to spend hundreds of thousands and
00:05:12.180 millions in some cases to defend themselves against something that didn't even exist from the
00:05:17.100 from the inception. There was no Russia collusion. There was no Russian interference in the election
00:05:24.220 in the favor of Donald Trump. Yet people were forced to spend life savings, life earnings,
00:05:32.920 defending themselves against something they knew to be an absolute farce. People like Adam Schiff,
00:05:39.400 who, by the way, as it sits right now, is under criminal investigation in Maryland, the great state of
00:05:46.400 Maryland, you may recall just about a month ago, a story broke that Adam Schiff, who refinanced his
00:05:52.540 house, I think it was four or five times over the course of a four or five year period, which those of you
00:05:58.180 who are homeowners know, that's very odd and peculiar thing to do. Adam Schiff refinanced his house and also
00:06:05.380 forgot to mention on his documents that his main residence is not actually in Maryland. It should be in
00:06:12.340 California because he's a senator from California. But Adam Schiff, just as Tish James did, lied on his
00:06:19.880 mortgage application and said that his home in Maryland was his primary residence to get a more
00:06:24.900 favorable mortgage. We know that's not the case because he's a senator from California, not the
00:06:31.040 senator from Maryland. So he lied all the while throwing stones while he lived in a glass house.
00:06:37.420 This is the man who was at the forefront of Donald Trump as a Russian agent. Donald Trump is a Russian
00:06:43.180 stooge. And when push came to shove and it was time to show the evidence of Donald Trump being either of
00:06:49.380 those things, Schiff faltered and was unable to provide evidence because we know it's not exactly
00:06:55.880 true. He is indeed the one who was the Russian stooge. And it's going to be time now for Adam Schiff to
00:07:03.980 start answering some questions about why he lied on a mortgage application. And I think more
00:07:09.400 seriously, why he lied and leaked materials to the mainstream media and news organizations during the
00:07:16.160 whole Russia collusion investigation. So it's time for Adam Schiff to be held to the same standard
00:07:24.160 or a higher standard, perhaps because he lied about so much and is a U.S. senator. But be held to
00:07:31.760 that standard that he held or tried to hold everyone else to, all the while he was the one
00:07:37.260 committing crimes. We're going to be right back, folks. As I said, our guest today is the great
00:07:41.920 Roger Stone, a host of the Stone Zone. There's so much to take up with Roger Stone. The Epstein
00:07:48.280 saga continues. The Russia collusion hoax, who, as I said, Roger has been at the forefront of it
00:07:54.960 from the very beginning, a longtime confidant to President Trump. Roger knows the inner workings
00:08:02.080 of Donald Trump's mind, I believe, and everything Donald Trump related. But Roger was put through
00:08:09.900 this blender, as were many people. You remember the FBI showing up to Roger Stone's house at four
00:08:16.300 o'clock in the morning before they even got there. Of course, CNN was staked out there with cameras
00:08:21.080 ready to film the whole entire thing. The funny part about it all, if there is anything funny
00:08:27.400 about it, is Roger's own attorneys had no idea that he was being raided. Yet somehow CNN knew.
00:08:38.520 Before we take a quick break here and we come back with the great Roger Stone, I want to get to a
00:08:42.460 story that absolutely amuses me. President Trump was on CNBC yesterday morning on Squawk Box and
00:08:51.260 was talking about this new executive order that's going to be coming out in the next few months or
00:08:58.700 weeks that'll hold banks accountable for deplatforming and censoring conservatives. So just
00:09:05.420 moments after President Trump was on Squawk Box, CEO of Bank of America, Brian Moynihan, was on there.
00:09:12.460 And they played the interview for him. President Trump had some not nice words
00:09:16.060 to say about Mr. Moynihan. Take a listen, because I think it's absolutely brilliant.
00:09:21.120 Good morning to you. I should say really good afternoon. Joining me right here in Aspen is Bank
00:09:25.460 of America's CEO, Brian Moynihan. And I originally planned to talk to you about the economy, and I
00:09:30.120 still do. But I have something that was not on my bingo card this morning, because we talked to
00:09:34.980 President Trump on Squawk Box about this executive order that he's planning around banks who he thinks
00:09:41.820 discriminated against conservatives. And your name came up. And so I just wanted to show you what he
00:09:47.420 said and wanted to get your reaction to that. What happens is I call a Bank of America routinely
00:09:55.900 because when I was president, this was after I got out, by the way, I call a Bank of America routinely.
00:10:00.980 And I speak to him and I speak to a couple of people and they have zero interest. Brian
00:10:07.560 was kissing my ass when I was president. And when I called him after I was president to deposit
00:10:14.780 a billion dollars plus and a lot of other things, more importantly, to open accounts. And he said,
00:10:20.880 we can't do it. No, we can't do it.
00:10:26.460 You heard it. Were you watching TV when this was happening?
00:10:29.460 So I got up early because we're on East Coast time. I was working out and I was watching your
00:10:34.240 wonderful show and he came on. And I'm telling you, I'm still trying to unsee some of the visuals
00:10:38.360 that he created with his commentary. But look, the president's after the right thing, which is
00:10:41.940 the laws, rules and regulations around our industry became used to cause things to happen.
00:10:48.540 It's whether it's BSA, ML, whether it's KYC, whether it's reputational risk. And you heard Tim Scott
00:10:53.380 quote about it. It is right to go look at these rules because at the end of the day,
00:10:56.380 they are causing decisions to be made that can be looked at in retrospect and made it differently.
00:11:01.540 We should get these rules right. So our company, my colleague company's industry has been working
00:11:06.060 with the Treasury administration today in this administration, trying to figure out how to get
00:11:10.100 these rules balanced so that we're not subject to this swinging back and forth in this after the
00:11:14.080 fact look. So the president's on the right issue. He asked me about it in Davos. We were there.
00:11:18.220 He talked about it this morning. And I welcome getting this fixed. At the end of the day,
00:11:23.200 we bank 70 million consumers, more small business than anybody else, 12 million small business,
00:11:27.440 more middle market companies. We bank everybody. But the reality is we want to make sure that the
00:11:31.660 rules and regulations don't cause decisions to be made that then are looked at in the aftermath
00:11:35.460 and dealt differently. I love when President Trump makes these elites look like total fools.
00:11:43.360 Moynihan there saying, of course, we need to look at it as he denied President Trump,
00:11:47.900 as you heard him there to deposit a billion dollars in a bank account. Imagine that.
00:11:53.640 I think these people should be fined into an oblivion and let them feel the pain that the
00:11:58.600 regular hardworking American like General Michael Flynn, who was de-platformed and de-banked
00:12:04.860 like Mike Lindell. I think they need to feel the same pain that these people feel
00:12:09.900 because it's only fair. We're going to take a quick break here, folks. As I said,
00:12:14.380 we're going to be joined by the great Roger Stone on the other side of this quick break.
00:12:18.400 Stay with us. The Great America Show continues in just a moment. We'll be right back.
00:12:28.120 Roger, as always, a delight to talk to you. I'm just going to run down a quick
00:12:31.460 list of a few things because there's a lot to talk about. And I'm going to let you choose where
00:12:35.660 we start. Howard Stern, that disgusting pig has been canceled. Apple announces today they're
00:12:40.220 investing one hundred billion dollars in America. Oh, Adam Schiff's under criminal investigation.
00:12:44.960 Glenn Maxwell reportedly told the DOJ she never witnessed Donald J. Trump engaging in any
00:12:50.500 concerning behavior. Robert Mueller has dementia. He's been living in a home for quite some time.
00:12:57.080 One of your good friends. You pick, Roger. Where do you want to pop off on first?
00:13:01.060 Well, I guess let's let's start with the Russian collusion hoax. Thanks to Tulsi Gabbard in an epic
00:13:08.880 struggle with the deep state. She has now declassified several tranches of documents that prove beyond
00:13:17.300 any shadow of a doubt that there was a seditious conspiracy that I think was treasonous to to jam Donald
00:13:27.420 Trump up on a false narrative that Russia had interfered with the U.S. elections on behalf of
00:13:35.020 Donald Trump. And it appears that Attorney General Pam Bondi, based on news reports, has asked a prosecutor
00:13:42.580 to begin presenting evidence to a grand jury, which is good news indeed. What's amazing to me is the way
00:13:51.300 the fake news media tries to pretend that this is still conjecture or that or that Gabbard didn't
00:13:59.800 really prove her case, which is nonsensical. These people are busted. There's no question that
00:14:06.320 they're busted. The only question now is whether they will pay the appropriate price for it.
00:14:12.780 The answer appears to be yes. Robert Mahler, we now know, was non-conjecture.
00:14:19.320 Real quick, Roger. It's not up to Tulsi Gabbard to prove the case even. So these people are a bunch
00:14:23.200 of idiots. Tulsi puts out the evidence and then lets the grand jury prove the case or the courts
00:14:28.460 prove the case. Yes, but it's up to the Attorney General to ask the grand jury to do so. And now
00:14:34.480 appears that Pam Bondi is going to do exactly that. So that's good news indeed. Now, because of the
00:14:43.780 raid at Mar-a-Lago, which I would argue was part of a continuing conspiracy, seems to me that grand jury
00:14:50.520 can be in Florida rather than the District of Columbia. David Schoen, probably the single best
00:14:57.360 criminal defense lawyer in the country, certainly one of the most brilliant legal minds in the country,
00:15:01.920 who will be on my radio show tonight at wabcradio.com at 8 p.m. It is his belief that that would allow
00:15:11.240 this matter to go to trial in Florida instead of going to trial in the District of Columbia, where
00:15:16.680 every single judge is in the tank for the Democrats and while where no reasonable, unbiased jury could
00:15:25.420 possibly be chosen. So that's all very good news. As far as Robert Mueller's concerned,
00:15:31.060 I think it's evident that he was actually non-composmentous at the time he served as the
00:15:37.360 special counsel. Putting him in front of the Congress was a last-ditch attempt to try to squeeze
00:15:45.140 an impeachment out of the Mueller investigation. Once they learned there was no evidence of Russian
00:15:51.160 collusion, they then tried to shift to the question of obstruction of justice. They didn't have a case for
00:15:57.280 that either. Everybody knows that Andrew Weissman was the puppet master here. The op-ed piece in the
00:16:04.380 Washington Post the day after I was pardoned saying Stone was in contact with Russian intelligence
00:16:11.080 assets with an S. Well, I wasn't even in touch with one. I was in touch with Guccifer 2.0 in a 28-word
00:16:21.260 exchange on Twitter direct message, which I myself released a year and a half in advance.
00:16:27.860 Not only is it innocuous, not only does it prove nothing whatsoever, there's no evidence,
00:16:33.140 there's no proof that Guccifer 2.0, that persona on then Twitter, today X, is really a Russian
00:16:39.820 intelligence asset. But even if he was, our brief communications took place weeks after WikiLeaks had
00:16:46.800 already released all their material on Hillary Clinton and the DNC. So from a chronological
00:16:53.340 point of view, that communication was benign, but they chose to target me anyway. So I guess
00:17:03.360 Mueller, who should definitely be indicted along with the rest of them for seditious conspiracy
00:17:08.600 and treason, at least he has a legal defense, which is that he's insane.
00:17:13.500 Yeah. Going back real quick to Tulsi Gabbard, that grand jury that they've reportedly impaneled,
00:17:20.940 asking for more information. Take a listen.
00:17:24.260 Report tonight from the Federalists that the DOJ is actually asking you for more documents
00:17:29.920 in its grand jury probe. Is that true? And what are they asking for now?
00:17:36.020 That is true, Laura. And I just want to point out how important this is, point out how important this
00:17:42.520 is that Attorney General Pam Bondi, through the Department of Justice, is taking this necessary
00:17:48.200 first step toward accountability, which is essential for the American people to begin to
00:17:54.580 have any kind of trust in the integrity of our democratic republic.
00:17:58.800 I met with the Department of Justice prosecutors today, and yes, they are committed to leaving
00:18:05.240 no stone unturned as they conduct this grand jury investigation and find the truth. Obviously,
00:18:11.500 we've already handed over the documents that we've declassified and released publicly over the last few
00:18:17.620 weeks. They have more questions, and they're going to be really taking a deep dive into this. Again,
00:18:22.520 looking everywhere to find the truth and conduct this very serious investigation.
00:18:29.760 No stone unturned. So it seems Pam Bondi may actually finally be getting serious about her job.
00:18:36.840 I haven't seen her on Fox News. I haven't seen her doing any media. And lo and behold, Roger,
00:18:41.420 we're getting the wheels of justice moving.
00:18:44.080 Well, and Tulsi Gabbard, I think, has been methodical and very, very careful and meticulous about
00:18:50.360 what she's put forward. But among the most important declassified documents is email that
00:18:57.240 proves that Hillary Rotten Clinton approved this operation to smear Donald Trump in order to distract
00:19:03.460 from her illegal email server and to spread the false narrative that Donald Trump was assisted
00:19:10.680 in the election by the Russians. Now, there's a huge effort to conflate what was a relatively minor,
00:19:19.440 and I think ineffective effort to sow chaos in our elections, a Facebook campaign that was budgeted
00:19:28.860 less than $200,000, the messaging of which was completely incoherent. Whoever wrote this stuff
00:19:36.060 clearly had English as a second language in an election which $8.9 billion was spent. So this is a
00:19:44.040 variable drop in the bucket. It certainly didn't change the outcome of the election at all. And
00:19:50.280 sometimes the messaging was pro-Trump. Other times it was anti-Trump. Sometimes it was pro-Clinton. Other
00:19:55.960 times it was anti-Clinton. What it was was ineffective. But people like Mark Warner, who is the disgrace that
00:20:04.560 is a U.S. senator from Virginia, tried desperately to conflate that question with whether the Russians
00:20:11.500 sought to help or assist Donald Trump in the election. Of course, there is no evidence to that
00:20:17.940 effect whatsoever. So yes, I agree with you, John. I think that Tulsi Gabbard's done a huge public
00:20:24.280 service here. She's been meticulous about it. I think she has a lot more coming. There's a lot of
00:20:30.960 information for them to evaluate. But it's interesting that Obama felt the need to publicly respond to try to
00:20:40.460 defend himself. And he appointed to the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian
00:20:46.980 collusion, which is which they keep saying is bipartisan. Technically true. There were three
00:20:53.080 Trump-hating Republicans on the committee at that time. And I can tell you that report is a steaming
00:20:59.780 pile of bullshit. There are five different references to me, and every one of them is a cut and paste from
00:21:06.140 the Huffington Post. In other words, it's a collection of accusations, but it involves no
00:21:12.720 evidence or no actual proof of those accusations. And that's true of the entire report.
00:21:19.640 The funny thing to me, Roger, is Russia had more dirt on Hillary Clinton than they had on Donald Trump.
00:21:26.660 And if they were so in the bag for Donald Trump or Donald Trump winning, they would have come out in
00:21:31.760 October just before the election with a surprise, just as the Access Hollywood tape somehow came
00:21:38.360 out, you know, just a few hours metaphorically before the election. Russia had all this information
00:21:44.460 on Hillary that she had to be given tranquilizers, that she was bipolar, that her health was absolutely
00:21:50.180 horrible. All these things flawed with her. If Russia was so in bed with Donald Trump, if Russia was so in
00:21:57.020 bed with Roger Stone, why wouldn't they drop this thing at the 11th hour to absolutely try to
00:22:01.820 obliterate Hillary Clinton? Yeah, you raise an excellent question. Actually, the Clinton campaign
00:22:06.380 actually attacked me in a press release by name, saying that I had raised questions about Hillary
00:22:12.200 Clinton's health in connection with my right-wing allies. Well, I mean, we now know that there were
00:22:19.580 very serious questions about her health. Among other things, they said she had psycho-emotional
00:22:25.900 problems, which is what I think happens when you have a husband who's a serial rapist and you're in
00:22:32.500 charge of killing the people who could point a finger at your husband. That would tend to me to
00:22:39.260 cause psycho-emotional problems. But she was heavily tranquilized and she had various other health
00:22:45.620 issues. So I was right. And then the Clinton campaign, of course, attacked me for it at the time.
00:22:53.260 Once again, I feel completely vindicated. You know, I give you credit, by the way,
00:22:59.100 every day on this show, you can ask any of the audience. You've been so hot on Tulsi Gabbard
00:23:04.520 from long, long before Donald Trump chose her. I mean, it's probably part of the reason why Donald
00:23:10.560 Trump chose her for a cabinet position like that. But you've been long hot on her before anyone else.
00:23:16.920 I've got to ask you something, Roger. I was talking at great depth yesterday with Lou's wife,
00:23:22.120 great woman, Debbie. And we were talking about Seth Rich because Fox News got sued over Seth Rich
00:23:26.820 because Lou Dobbs went on air and wanted to know how Seth Rich was killed. He wasn't robbed. He was
00:23:32.500 murdered in the middle of the night. Nothing was taken from him. How can we get this message to Tulsi,
00:23:39.660 to cash, to anybody in the DOJ who listens? Because if you uncover what happened with Seth Rich,
00:23:46.380 excuse me, you uncover this whole entire Russia collusion hoax and everything that went on inside
00:23:53.340 the DNC, I think it's such an integral part that's being overlooked by so many people.
00:24:01.080 Well, as you probably know, it was in my trial that the FBI admitted that they had never inspected
00:24:07.220 the computer servers of the DNC. They relied entirely on a third-party company called CrowdStrikes.
00:24:16.140 CrowdStrikes had allegedly produced a report that supposedly showed that the DNC had been
00:24:22.920 the target of an online hack by Russian intelligence. But then Sean Henry, who was the CEO of CrowdStrikes,
00:24:31.280 who just happened to have been a deputy to Robert Mueller at the FBI, testified under oath to the
00:24:37.580 House Intelligence Committee, that his report actually included no such proof. Now, I wanted to
00:24:44.040 bring Bill Binney, the former counterintelligence IT expert for the CIA, to my trial as a witness to
00:24:53.680 produce not only expert testimony, but also to present forensic evidence that would have proved
00:24:59.640 that there was no online hack, and that due to the download times of the information that was
00:25:07.540 unloined, that they had been downloaded to some kind of a portable drive and taken out the back door,
00:25:14.660 most likely by Seth Rich. We clearly have a cover-up here in which the FBI tells us they can't find his
00:25:23.040 his computers, the security camera footage from the last establishment he left before his death seems
00:25:32.920 to be missing. The lawyer, Ty Clevenger, has fought now for years to get to the bottom of this case.
00:25:41.080 But as you correctly point out, if you make any assertion about his death, his parents will
00:25:47.160 immediately sue you. Now, that is a change in their position. His father initially said that he was not
00:25:53.540 the target of a robbery, pointing out that his wallet, his cell phone, his jewelry, his cash was all
00:26:00.780 intact. But then once the DNC hired a crisis communications spokesman for the family, they very
00:26:10.160 quickly changed their tune. I'm hopeful that Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard will get to the bottom of
00:26:18.060 this. I notice it is floating back up on social media, people asking legitimate questions about it.
00:26:25.620 But hopefully we'll get to the truth of the matter here through some of these declassified documents.
00:26:30.920 Yeah, to me, it was such a shame. I mean, I just started at Fox News and I'd come in and
00:26:36.180 depositions are about to happen. And then midnight one night, I got an email that said no more
00:26:41.020 depositions in the Seth Rich case to me said that there's a settlement made. I don't know what the
00:26:47.000 number was, but it was it was mid into the seven figures. I'd have to imagine. By the way, I just
00:26:52.160 texted Ty Clevenger. I know Ty very well, a good friend of mine. He's been fighting Roger for like
00:26:57.820 five years. OK, the FBI has said we have the computer and then they said that we don't have the
00:27:03.200 computer that we have it. We don't have it. We have the contents of it. We don't have the contents
00:27:06.900 of it. He was the FBI was ordered to turn the computer over to Ty years ago. They still haven't
00:27:13.920 turned it over. What can they buy? It's got to be a lot more than than just this guy taking files
00:27:20.440 from the DNC and giving it to Julian Assange. There's got to be something far deeper than that,
00:27:25.520 that that they're not releasing this, in my opinion. What about you?
00:27:28.440 Well, certainly there proof exists from the material that WikiLeaks did publish that they
00:27:34.020 rigged. They had to rig the process against Bernie Sanders for a year prior to his running for the
00:27:40.060 Democrat nomination was not even a Democrat. He was an independent elected as a socialist.
00:27:46.760 So they had to had to cheat to beat him. By the way, who won the California Democrat primary in 2016?
00:27:53.880 The answer is we don't know because they've never released a vote count. That tells me that Bernie
00:27:59.480 Sanders likely defeated Hillary Clinton. So I think it was the it was much greater than just
00:28:06.920 the falsity of the Russian collusion hoax. I think it was the rigging of the nomination for Hillary Clinton
00:28:15.080 and a number of John Podesta's emails which have been authenticated and know which I did not have in
00:28:22.200 advance of their release are extremely suspicious where he talks about making an example of someone.
00:28:30.060 So hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this now that we have honest people as a head of the FBI
00:28:35.820 and somebody honest as the director of intelligence. Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this very soon.
00:28:42.860 Do you find it odd? This is something I can't fathom. There's very few things that
00:28:52.560 boggle my mind, but when they boggle my mind, they keep boggling Roger and I can't get past it.
00:28:59.760 Are these guys the worst criminals in history? And I'm talking about the John Brennan's.
00:29:04.560 These people, Roger, were literally keeping notes saying what they were going to do,
00:29:09.020 what time they were going to do it and how they were going to do it. These notes then got saved,
00:29:13.980 stored in the FBI headquarters, which are now found. I mean, does that make any sense to you?
00:29:19.000 If you're going to commit a crime, Roger, are you writing it down?
00:29:22.620 Well, but John, you have to admit to date they've gotten away with it, with the complicity of fake
00:29:27.460 news media who's right back at it again. I mean, first of all, Tosi Gabbard's bombshell revelations
00:29:34.260 largely go uncovered by the three major networks, trying to pretend like they
00:29:39.240 never happened, not to mention CNN. So they may be stupid criminals. They may be the Keystone cops,
00:29:48.620 but they've gotten away with it so far. And of course, John Brennan is still in denial. You can see
00:29:54.020 him on MSNBC, if you're one of the very, very few people watching, where he says, well, you know,
00:30:00.120 the Steele dossier may still be true. There's no evidence of that. And they very cleverly,
00:30:08.340 and this was covered in the CIA's report by John Ratcliffe prior to Tosi's disclosures,
00:30:16.000 it was Brennan who insisted the Steele dossier, which he knew was fraudulent, which he knew had
00:30:21.620 been created by Hillary Clinton's campaign, which he knew was a fugazi, as we say in New York,
00:30:26.300 included in the president's intelligence briefing. But then they hit it in a super classified footnote
00:30:34.660 to make sure that nobody saw it. And as the journalist and investigative reporter and author
00:30:41.100 Lee Smith points out, Barack Obama was waiting for it. It was used as the rationale for the FISA warrants
00:30:48.820 to spy on Donald Trump's campaign, also used as the rationale for the appointment of silent Bob
00:30:54.740 Mueller. Today, we know why he was so silent. Go ahead, go ahead. So yeah, on one hand,
00:31:02.260 it's amazing that they kept records of their treachery, of their seditious conspiracy.
00:31:10.540 On the other hand, very clearly, after they stole the 2020 election, I think they believed that they
00:31:17.100 would be in power forever. Yeah.
00:31:19.060 As we all know, it would be impossible for Donald Trump to make a comeback, except for he did just
00:31:24.880 through sheer will, determination, perseverance. And by the grace of God, he made the greatest
00:31:31.940 comeback in American political history. And that leaves these people vulnerable to the truth.
00:31:38.800 Absolutely. While we're on the topic of Russia, I guess we've got to mention that the number one
00:31:43.940 senator from Russia, and that's Adam Schiff, who is now reportedly under criminal investigation
00:31:48.740 in Maryland for alleged mortgage fraud. I think he refinanced his house four or five times in the
00:31:56.020 course of four years. I mean, very odd behavior from a man who was throwing bricks, Roger, when he was
00:32:02.480 living in a tinfoil house, I guess. Adam Schiff is perhaps the greatest huckster, the greatest con man,
00:32:11.580 the greatest congenital liar to ever serve in Congress. He was violating both the law and House
00:32:19.920 rules in cahoots with the special prosecutors, the Mueller thugs. So they shared my emails with
00:32:28.900 with him so that he could formulate and fabricate gotcha questions for me, none of which were
00:32:38.240 material. Very clever. But in this case, his defense is that Donald Trump is upset, Schiff says,
00:32:46.800 because he owns two homes. No. The problem here is that he declared both his condominium in Burbank,
00:32:53.240 California, and his home in suburban Maryland. He declared both of them as his principal legal
00:32:59.820 residence. That got him a tax break that he was not entitled to in both states. Also got him a lower
00:33:06.100 mortgage rate and a lower insurance rate. That is, by the way, a felony. If you or I did that, we'd be
00:33:13.920 prosecuted. So he's busted. I saw that report last night. There was evidently a referral from William Pulte
00:33:25.080 at the Federal Home Finance Agency, whose fraud unit discovered this illegality and referred it to the
00:33:32.480 Department of Justice. Hopefully, if we don't have a two-tier justice system, Adam Schiff will be prosecuted.
00:33:39.040 But I think you and I both realize his problems are much, much bigger than that. The inspector
00:33:45.100 general under Biden determined that he and his sidekick, Eric Swalwell, leaked classified information
00:33:53.740 to various media outlets. That's a crime. And then plus his central role in the fabrication of the
00:34:01.040 Russian collusion hope, he's among those who should go to the grand jury. There's no immunity for U.S.
00:34:06.820 senators when they are involved in seditious conspiracy or treason.
00:34:12.560 Going back to Mueller real quick, did you ever meet with Mueller personally?
00:34:16.260 No, it's very interesting because, you see, I never received a target letter. I was never called in
00:34:21.480 front of the grand jury. What they chose to do was the drip, drip, drip of leaking. So every two or
00:34:28.880 three days, there'd be a new story. Stone and Mueller's crosshairs, the noose tightens around
00:34:36.480 Stone's neck. Stone's indictment expected any day now. But I never received any formal confirmation
00:34:43.740 that I was under investigation. And then when I was pardoned, Robert Mueller and Andrew Weissman
00:34:50.660 concocted this op-ed for The Washington Post. And Weissman says, Stone can still be taken in front of
00:34:57.320 the grand jury. Well, you had three years to take me before the grand jury, but you never did. You
00:35:03.120 chose this terror campaign to try to pressure me because ultimately, as you know, what they really
00:35:08.840 wanted was for me to testify falsely against President Trump, which, of course, I refused to do.
00:35:16.100 Robert Mueller has a very checkered past, to say the least. He is, as you know, the person who took
00:35:23.180 the Iranian samples over to Russia so that the Russians could inspect them prior to their purchase
00:35:30.860 of about 80 percent of the enriched uranium in the United States. By the way, that's according to the
00:35:38.720 New York Times. So that's not exactly a right-wing news outlet. I think he's deeply involved in the
00:35:46.040 cover-up of 9-11. It was the FBI director when there were reports of men in North Florida going
00:35:53.140 to a flight school, intently interested in how to take off a plane, but having very little interest
00:35:59.760 in learning how to land one. But they only investigated after the attack on America on 9-11.
00:36:07.460 And therefore, they missed an opportunity, one I think of several, if you listen to former
00:36:13.060 Congressman Kurt Weldon, to prevent that horrific event on 9-11.
00:36:18.260 Yeah, very, very valiant points. A man with a very checkered past, I think, says the least.
00:36:25.820 Absolutely horrendous. Before we wrap up, Roger, I've got to get your take on something. I sent you
00:36:29.700 over something yesterday that I found was rather interesting. We're going to put it up here on the
00:36:35.820 screen for the audience. It was a picture that came out of a photo inside of Jeffrey Epstein's home.
00:36:41.440 By the way, as I mentioned at the top of the show, Glenn Maxwell told the DOJ she did not witness
00:36:47.540 anything inappropriate from Donald Trump engaging in any inappropriate activities in her time with
00:36:53.920 him. And they're reportedly now looking at releasing the evidence. So I sent this to you. I thought it
00:36:58.940 was Bill Gates. It's going back and forth if it's Bill Gates or Woody Allen, whoever it is, if it's Bill
00:37:04.060 or Woody, why would Jeffrey Epstein have a picture of Steve Bannon with whoever the said other is on his
00:37:12.180 mantle? Well, it is very clear, according to the New York Post and also according to former
00:37:18.860 Bannon aide Sam Nunberg, that Bannon had become a fixture at Jeffrey Epstein's New York apartment,
00:37:29.420 his New York home, pardon me, after he was fired by Donald Trump and that Epstein was supposed to
00:37:36.380 finance Steve Bannon's various political projects. We also have the reports that Bannon was coaching
00:37:44.140 Epstein in preparation for a 60 Minutes interview that ended up being canceled, but that Bannon was
00:37:51.220 trying to coach Epstein on how to come across as less threatening and more friendly and to how to
00:37:58.540 deflect the questions about child sex trafficking by saying, well, some of the women I've been seen
00:38:04.340 with, they may appear young, but they were all of age, which, of course, we now know was not true.
00:38:11.260 And then, of course, there's the 15 hours of videotape that Steve Bannon recorded with Jeffrey
00:38:18.260 Epstein that he has yet to release. So their relationship is very curious. We also know that
00:38:24.800 Bannon visited Epstein not just in his New York home, but also visited him at his Paris apartment.
00:38:33.080 So I've called on him, as have others, to release that footage and to clarify his relationship
00:38:40.420 with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, look, a lot of people keep saying to me online, what's your beef with Steve
00:38:48.180 Bannon? My beef is very, very clear. He went to the House Intelligence Committee. He testified under
00:38:54.940 oath, as I did. He was specifically asked, did you ever discuss WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, or these
00:39:02.260 allegedly stolen emails with Roger Stone? And he said, no, never. Asked by Adam Schiff on no occasion,
00:39:10.280 he said, no, never. Now, he was a surprise witness for Robert Mueller and the government.
00:39:16.100 At my trial, he swept into the courtroom, all in black, kind of like a fat Johnny Cash.
00:39:22.260 And he was on the stand. He's asked the exact same question. Did you ever discuss WikiLeaks,
00:39:29.840 Julian Assange, or these allegedly stolen emails with Roger Stone? He said, yes. Stone brought it up
00:39:35.580 in every phone conversation we had in 2016. And then to put icing on the cake, he said, I considered
00:39:41.860 stone our access point to WikiLeaks. Now, I passed a polygraph test, actually, too, on that narrow
00:39:49.320 question. It's a lie. And Steve Bannon perjured himself to help Robert Mueller try to send me to
00:39:55.500 prison for seven to nine years. Now, John, I'm a Catholic. I'm a believer. I take seriously the part
00:40:02.680 of the Bible that tells us that we should forgive those who have trespassed against us. So I have forgiven
00:40:09.080 him, but I have not forgotten. I think I figured out the whole thing as I've been thinking about it
00:40:14.380 for the past few days. I knew Steve probably as long as I knew you. But I mean, I've lost all
00:40:19.120 respect for him for what he did to you. I consider you a good friend. And those who do things like
00:40:25.180 that to my friends are no friend of mine. What I boiled it down to talking with someone very high
00:40:30.180 in D.C. is that it's a jealousy thing. You've been a long, confident and friend of President Trump
00:40:34.660 for a very, very long time. You've had his ear for a very long time and you still do.
00:40:39.740 Steve was kicked out of the White House like a dog by him. So I think I see where the issue is.
00:40:46.120 To me, it boils down to a jealousy thing. Do you think Steve works for a higher power?
00:40:52.080 I think Steve works for money. And I think he's desperate to find money. I think that's what he
00:40:56.580 was looking for with Jeffrey Epstein. What I really don't understand is the total lack of hygiene.
00:41:02.240 That part really vexes me. I mean, I don't understand his aversion to hot water and soap.
00:41:08.140 It just doesn't make much sense. But by higher power, I meant, do you believe he works for CIA,
00:41:13.920 FBI, is he an informant? I mean, I've been told that by many people. I just I don't know.
00:41:18.740 So I don't know either. Roger Stone, always a pleasure. Who's your guest tonight on the Stone
00:41:24.720 Zone? What time? And we've shown the criminal defense lawyer who defended President Donald Trump.
00:41:29.420 He's going to talk about whether there are circumstances under which Barack Obama can be
00:41:35.020 prosecuted. And there's another important question, John. You may remember that President Trump brought
00:41:40.000 a civil suit in Miami laying out the entire Russian collusion hoax. A Clinton judge by the name of
00:41:47.660 Middleton not only threw out the lawsuit, but he fined Donald Trump and his lawyer Alina Haba a million
00:41:54.620 dollars a piece saying that the lawsuit was frivolous. What happens to that lawsuit now that
00:41:59.840 everything in the suit has been proven to be absolutely true? We're going to focus on that
00:42:05.180 question tonight. Folks can tune in by going to wabcradio.com at 8 o'clock p.m. Eastern time. That's
00:42:13.360 wabcradio.com tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern time. And go by the Stone Zone, stonezone.com.
00:42:20.980 I have a new piece put up that I just finished about why I believe that Barack Obama can be
00:42:26.980 prosecuted for seditious conspiracy and treason in the Russian collusion hoax.
00:42:32.860 Let's get you out of here, Roger. I got Enrique yelling at me on the phone that you've got to go.
00:42:36.700 TheStoneZone.com. You catch Roger tonight. 8 p.m. Roger. We'll see you next week, my friend.
00:42:41.380 Thanks, John. God bless you. God bless you, Roger. Thanks to Roger Stone, folks. And thank you all for
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