The Great America Show - HUNTER BIDEN： A REAL CONVICTED FELON

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00:00:33.860 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:37.040 Great to have you with us.

00:00:38.760 The embattled first son, Hunter Biden, found guilty on three felony counts after just three hours of jury deliberation.

00:00:48.620 Hunter faces 25 years for making false statements and a third count of illegal possession of a firearm.

00:00:58.740 Truth, justice, and the American way prevailing in America at long last.

00:01:04.700 Hunter now awaiting sentencing on the case as he heads to California in September for his tax fraud case.

00:01:11.800 That ought to be a beauty, too.

00:01:13.640 Not looking good for Hunter Biden.

00:01:15.620 New video footage provided to House Republicans this week reveals Nancy Pelosi taking responsibility for January 6th getting out of control.

00:01:27.480 The new footage comes from an HBO documentary that was videoed with Nancy Pelosi admitting the National Guard wasn't present because of her.

00:01:39.260 Listen to this.

00:01:40.140 We have responsibility, Terry.

00:01:42.960 We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have. 0.93

00:01:49.220 This is ridiculous.

00:01:51.360 You're going to ask me in the middle of the thing when they've already breached the inaugural stuff that should we call the Capitol Police? 0.93

00:02:02.620 I mean, the National Guard?

00:02:04.260 Why weren't the National Guard there to begin with?

00:02:09.020 They thought that they had sufficient resources.

00:02:11.100 No, there's not a question of how they had been.

00:02:13.120 They don't know.

00:02:15.020 They clearly didn't know.

00:02:16.660 And I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more.

00:02:21.560 And now, three and a half years later, over $20 million spent on a sham January 6th committee, hundreds of J-6 political prisoners still in the D.C. gulag, and a former POTUS charged. 0.62

00:02:36.440 Pelosi is simply a disgrace to the country.

00:02:39.020 Trump Mar-a-Lago documents judge Eileen Cannon this week rejected one of President Trump's motions to dismiss Trump's team, wasting no time submitting another appeal.

00:02:52.620 The president's attorneys have now filed a motion to dismiss based on spoilation of evidence from Jack Smith's team.

00:02:59.780 And our guest today is investigative journalist Julie Kelly.

00:03:03.940 Julie has been covering all of President Trump's cases very diligently from the inception.

00:03:10.040 No one out there does it any better than Julie. 0.99

00:03:13.480 And now here is Julie Kelly.

00:03:15.660 And Julie, I can't even begin to imagine how busy you are right now.

00:03:19.460 You have your reporting across such a broad spectrum of stories, everything from obviously the special counsel investigation and prosecution of President Trump.

00:03:34.760 The list goes on.

00:03:36.200 You've got you're also reporting on, of course, January 6th and the hand of General Milley.

00:03:45.500 And I'd like to get to that as well.

00:03:47.200 But let's start right now with Hunter Biden just being found guilty.

00:03:53.200 Your reaction?

00:03:55.420 I mean, look, it seemed pretty evident that he was going to and that he was guilty of these three felony charges.

00:04:02.380 So he was convicted on all three.

00:04:04.940 But, Lou, I want to caution everyone.

00:04:07.340 And we can already see on social media this is happening, which is representations by corporate media reporters.

00:04:14.940 And we'll hear this from Joe Biden and perhaps Merrick Garland as well, that these convictions are representative of a fair and equal system of justice, that it doesn't matter what your last name is, whether it's Trump or Biden.

00:04:29.640 You're still held to the same rule of law and accountable.

00:04:32.820 But we know that's not true, because Hunter Biden should be facing dozens of federal criminal charges, human trafficking, fair violations, money laundering.

00:04:44.240 The list goes on and on.

00:04:45.760 And this still represents a slap on the wrist where the Biden crime family is still covered up and protected by this Department of Justice.

00:04:56.320 Well, I think, first, that's well said and certainly a warning to everyone and an admonishment to keep everything in proportion.

00:05:06.740 And Julie's exactly correct.

00:05:08.380 I mean, when you look at the Biden crime family, when you look at Hunter Biden's escapades, all he's accused of and the protection that he's received over the past.

00:05:18.640 Well, now, we're approaching six years of protection for this man.

00:05:23.840 It really is outrageous.

00:05:26.260 That said, a guilty verdict is in.

00:05:31.620 And that would mean, what, up to 25 years in prison.

00:05:35.540 Give us a sense, if you would, where you think this will go, because we can't imagine that it goes straight to a prison somewhere for Hunter Biden.

00:05:45.120 No, and it's important to keep in mind, just like Donald Trump, Hunter Biden is protected as a U.S. Secret Service protectee, as a member of the first family.

00:05:55.200 So his incarceration and, of course, he faces far more years in prison than Donald Trump for his, you know, rigged conviction in New York City.

00:06:06.100 But this poses all sorts of problems because of Hunter Biden's status as a Secret Service protectee.

00:06:12.640 So will they come back?

00:06:15.120 Will the DOJ come back and ask for a few years in prison, home detention?

00:06:22.680 It's hard to see what they are going to be able to ask for in Hunter Biden's case.

00:06:28.120 Now, these are, of course, federal convictions where Donald Trump is not.

00:06:33.340 Those were state charges.

00:06:35.280 I suspect that his sentencing will be scheduled sometime in August.

00:06:39.540 It's usually a few months after a jury verdict where the judge will set, you know, the sentencing date and then both sides will issue sentencing memos, recommendations, what they're looking for.

00:06:50.640 But, Lou, think about this.

00:06:52.280 Hunter Biden could be in a Delaware courtroom in August facing prison time as his father is accepting, you know,

00:07:01.940 his nomination to once again be the Democratic presidential candidate because, of course, the DNC convention will be in Chicago towards the end of August.

00:07:11.980 So interesting optics here.

00:07:14.400 But the bottom line is this is not representative of fair treatment of Donald Trump and his associates and the Biden family.

00:07:21.360 This still, with all the criminal conduct of Hunter Biden, his father, his uncle and others, this still represents a slap on the wrist for Hunter Biden and the entire Biden family.

00:07:32.340 And to your earlier point, which I think is very well taken, what do we do about the Secret Service protection?

00:07:41.340 Do we put them, do they get a suite inside a cell block in a federal prison?

00:07:49.520 What happens and will there have to be, do you expect there would be a workaround of some kind so that Secret Service agents aren't put in that position?

00:08:00.180 I can't imagine that they are going to try to put Hunter Biden in some regular jail facility simply because of the Secret Service angle to that.

00:08:12.800 And, you know, that's a question that people have also asked in the conviction in Manhattan in the Alvin Bragg case.

00:08:18.620 Now, of course, that it would be a stretch for for the government, for Bragg's office to come back and ask for jail time on, you know, that that offense, that conviction, because normally that's not the case, even though this was a concocted indictment to begin with.

00:08:38.080 But this raises far more complications for the Secret Service, for really the judge and certainly the DOJ as to what Hunter Biden's punishment will be.

00:08:49.140 Furthermore, recall, Lou, that Hunter Biden will also be on trial in California in September for other tax charges.

00:08:56.700 So this is not the end or even really, you know, the midpoint of Hunter Biden's legal problems.

00:09:02.220 He has a lot of problems that are starting to build up here.

00:09:07.180 And even though it may be a slap in the wrist, this is this looks like it has the potential to pile up on him.

00:09:13.820 I don't know what the obviously what the outcome will be.

00:09:17.880 But if all of these charges begin to amass, it could get very complicated, not only for Hunter Biden, but for the entire crime family, if you will.

00:09:28.460 Well, what kept striking me is I'm listening to the testimony and this is testimony by his, you know, sister-in-law who was widowed when his brother Bo Biden died.

00:09:41.720 They started having an affair.

00:09:43.900 He got her hooked on drugs, you know, really just not just a tragic story, but just really low life behavior.

00:09:53.100 And her testimony of him being hooked on drugs and, you know, smoking crack like every 20 minutes.

00:09:59.860 Lou, think of this.

00:10:00.920 This is at the same time Hunter Biden, we were told, was a Burisma Energy board member getting $80,000 a month as he is hooked on drugs,

00:10:13.700 getting his widowed sister-in-law hooked on drugs and exposing both of their children to his heavy drug use.

00:10:23.800 How is and we're still supposed to believe he was a legitimate board member for Burisma instead of, of course,

00:10:30.320 connecting that company and using his influence and access to his father, VP, the vice president, and then, of course, candidate for president.

00:10:40.620 So the idea that now Hunter Biden in any way, shape, or form was a legitimate lawyer, an international advisor,

00:10:48.740 he was running these companies on the up and up, he was a Burisma board member, that all has been shredded

00:10:56.220 because there's no way he was not a functioning, thinking human being for years as they were collecting millions

00:11:02.940 from these hostile regimes across the country.

00:11:06.440 A great point, Julie, and we expect nothing but great points from you, and we are never disappointed.

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00:14:22.140 We're back now.

00:14:23.480 We're talking with Julie Kelly.

00:14:25.020 And Julie, let's turn to your view at least of what is happening now with President Trump.

00:14:32.520 Judge Cannon is making some rulings here.

00:14:36.680 It looks like it's moving from afar.

00:14:40.120 It looks to me like it's moving in President Trump's favor.

00:14:43.940 Give us your insight.

00:14:45.740 Well, Judge Cannon, and this is one reason why she is the target of the corporate media and the Democrats demanding her recusal is because, as we've talked about, Lou, for months, she is really holding Jack Smith and his team, holding their feet to the fire.

00:15:03.760 And as I have described it, sort of putting the DOJ and special counsel on a series of mini trials herself.

00:15:11.520 Now, towards the end of this month, she is going to be holding hearings related to the unlawful, potentially unlawful raid at Mar-a-Lago, which, as you know, I've been covering as well.

00:15:23.180 She is going to hold a hearing about the motion to dismiss based on the unlawful appointment of special counsel Jack Smith, which Ed Meese and a few other former attorney generals have filed amicus briefs in that case saying, explaining why Jack Smith never should have been appointed, that it's against the law.

00:15:44.180 And that these indictments, both in Washington and in Southern Florida, should immediately be dismissed.

00:15:53.180 So she's holding hearings on that towards the end of the month.

00:15:55.780 I will be there covering them as well.

00:15:57.480 But in the meantime, she is allowing the defense to file all sorts of motions and evidence.

00:16:03.320 I posted on Tuesday morning another motion asking to dismiss based on Jack Smith's mishandling of evidence collected during the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:16:17.240 And there's a lot of interesting tidbits in there as to how the FBI executed that raid and mishandled evidence from the very beginning.

00:16:24.560 And now apparently some evidence is even missing.

00:16:26.980 So she is continuing this like death by a thousand cuts approach to Jack Smith's classified documents case.

00:16:34.760 And she really deserves such praise because, you know, this is the sort of thing that Congress really should have been doing.

00:16:42.000 And she is single handedly dismantling this case at great, you know, I don't want to say risk, but she's certainly made herself a target by the left. 0.90

00:16:53.180 And so this is why this case is really falling apart.

00:16:57.520 And I expect we'll get even more bombshell revelations as these motions and hearings continue.

00:17:02.880 She truly has, as you say, she has been a remarkable power and presence on the bench in this case.

00:17:11.540 And Jack Smith, his arrogance, his immaturity, his disrespect that he has let get way out of control.

00:17:23.840 She has just calmly and firmly brought him to ground.

00:17:29.220 I can't believe, as I watch his performance here, I can't believe that he was Merrick Garland's first choice to be a prosecutor.

00:17:38.140 He was much ballyhooed by the lap, but they would ballyhoo a prairie dog if they thought he would be helpful at all to their cause of, well, this coup against President Trump.

00:17:54.420 I just, I marvel at how strong a presence she is from the bench.

00:18:00.420 Your thoughts?

00:18:01.040 Well, she is.

00:18:02.660 And as you know, I've covered this case since she was appointed a special master after the Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:18:08.260 That was September of 2022.

00:18:10.040 She basically said at that time, and this was before Jack Smith was appointed, but she basically said she did not trust the Department of Justice, that they had already mishandled evidence taken out of Mar-a-Lago.

00:18:22.140 She is now exonerated because Jack Smith has admitted that so far and also said she did not trust the DOJ and FBI to conduct the post-raid investigation appropriately because there were already leaks being made to the media.

00:18:37.140 She is exonerated in that even though she was shamefully appealed by the 11th Circuit in her district there, that special master order was overturned.

00:18:48.560 But she has now proven to be right.

00:18:51.060 She has known from the beginning, Lou, how dirty this case is, how corrupt Jay Bratt is, the lead prosecutor, how sloppy this investigation has been and reckless.

00:19:01.760 And, you know, I think that part of this, not just revealing the corruptness of Jack Smith and DOJ, but a little bit of demonstrating that she was right from the beginning about how this whole investigation and prosecution went down.

00:19:15.720 You know, and Smith's acknowledgement, as you point out, is important because it validates exactly what Judge Cannon had been saying.

00:19:25.980 But importantly, too, it shows everybody else who he is.

00:19:29.320 He made that acknowledgement in a filing on a late Friday, which is, of course, the refuge, I would say, of those who want to bury their acknowledgements and documents rather than have them actually be in front of the American public.

00:19:51.580 He is now he's now been shown for what he is.

00:19:56.000 He hasn't helped himself at all.

00:19:57.700 What do you think the prospects are here of something turning to the point that President Trump could have this thing completely dismissed by Judge Cannon?

00:20:13.040 Well, she still has a few motions to dismiss pending.

00:20:16.500 One is on selective vindictive prosecution.

00:20:19.280 And I really do think that that is probably the strongest motion to dismiss because I was in the courtroom two days after Robert Herr gave his congressional and public testimony about his investigation into Joe Biden's mishandling of classified documents, which included binding national defense information.

00:20:39.280 But, of course, he's not being charged.

00:20:41.280 And Judge Cannon, during this hearing, routinely brought up and enforcing the DOJ to admit that this was the first time that any president or vice president or any high-level official had been charged with this Espionage Act violation.

00:20:56.820 Of course, Trump faces 32 counts of that in Jack Smith's indictment.

00:21:00.320 She is very aware of the double standard here, and she is a stickler for the rules.

00:21:07.020 I mean, when you talk about rule of law, she is a stickler for process, for accuracy, for fairness, for doing her job, protecting the rights of defendants, preventing government overreach.

00:21:19.660 And so I think she is appalled by this case.

00:21:23.920 So she could dismiss based on selective prosecution.

00:21:26.800 In the meantime, though, as I said, she is going to, I think, drag this out, and she is going to expose all of this to the public as long as she possibly can.

00:21:36.100 Julie Kelly on the Espionage Act, which is, of course, the brainchild of Jack Smith.

00:21:44.080 We're going to talk to her when we return here very quickly about which takes precedence here, the Presidential Records Act, the Espionage Act, and what is the importance of that distinction.

00:21:58.260 We'll be right back with Julie Kelly.

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00:22:35.760 We're back with Julie Kelly.

00:22:36.900 Julie, I just want to turn to the question I posed going into the break, and that is the Espionage Act.

00:22:43.560 There are those I know who say that the Espionage Act is superseded by the Presidential Records Act, making much of this special counsel case, Jack Smith's case, moot.

00:22:55.540 What are you thinking?

00:22:56.540 What are you thinking?

00:22:56.800 Well, the Espionage Act, those 32 counts relate to his allegedly taking these national defense information.

00:23:06.500 So it doesn't look like she's going to be able to drop those counts, but it's going to be very hard for Jack Smith to prove that he unlawfully and willingly took those documents, whether he's entitled to them or not.

00:23:20.700 And so that it's going to be, that's a very tough burden of proof for Jack Smith to try to reach.

00:23:26.840 All right.

00:23:27.680 So let me turn to, if I may, this newly leaked video.

00:23:32.880 It's been around for a while, apparently, but suddenly it's a release to the public of Nancy Pelosi taking responsibility for the failure to bring in the National Guard on Capitol Hill on January 6th.

00:23:48.280 Your reaction?

00:23:49.780 Right.

00:23:50.280 So this is video that basically shows Nancy Pelosi admitting, as her daughter is filming, saying, allegedly, that she felt she was responsible for not securing the Capitol.

00:24:01.280 But why are we just seeing this now more than three and a half years later?

00:24:05.220 And now Nancy Pelosi is doing all of these media hits trying to say that, you know, she was doing her job and that, you know, they couldn't reach the authorities who were responsible for deploying the National Guard.

00:24:18.120 That's not true, because we now know that she was on the phone with Ryan McCarthy, the Army secretary, who was the ultimate authority, who inexplicably delayed finally deploying the National Guard until after five o'clock.

00:24:31.760 So still a lot of questions being raised.

00:24:35.100 But why are we just now seeing this video?

00:24:38.760 They know that the January 6th narrative is being completely dismantled and now backfiring as House Republicans and others are investigating not just really what happened on January 6th, but of course, the January 6th committee itself, which we now know destroyed evidence, destroyed all the video evidence.

00:24:56.760 And more importantly, put up a perjured witness testimony by Cassidy Hutchinson.

00:25:02.600 One last question, and that is Thomas Massey, Congressman of Kentucky, are coming up with an idea that I think is terrific, which was that the way to save Steve Bannon and perhaps reduce the time spent in prison of Peter Navarro is to declare the January 6th committee illegitimate, which in one effect, I think very few people would argue with on a technical basis, at least.

00:25:30.800 Your thoughts about that as a way to end the nonsense and stop the pain that the Marxist Dems are trying to inflict on Republicans and America Firsters like Bannon and Navarro.

00:25:47.680 Well, it's unfortunate that both of the judges in that matter did not dismiss those counts.

00:25:53.640 They both knew or were well aware, and one is a Trump judge and one is an Obama judge.

00:25:58.940 They both knew that this committee was not properly formed and that it violated the rules of the House and even its own enabling legislation.

00:26:08.960 So it's unfortunate that both of those judges have allowed these cases to continue.

00:26:15.240 But yes, I think it makes so much sense why they should drop those contempt referrals against Bannon and Navarro.

00:26:26.000 That's something that Representative Tom Massey has suggested.

00:26:27.960 But, you know, again, we're going to find out when we are finding a lot more about the malfeasance and corruption of that January 6th committee, which was, of course, formed by Nancy Pelosi.

00:26:40.720 Absolutely.

00:26:41.800 We're talking with Julie Kelly, and thank you so much for being with us here today.

00:26:45.800 There are a hundred other things I'd love to talk to you about as well.

00:26:49.180 And we'll take that up on your next visit, if we may.

00:26:51.520 I appreciate it, and I wish you all the very best.

00:26:55.080 And Julie has some terrific reporting every day on her Substack.

00:26:59.800 We recommend you check her out on Substack.

00:27:04.440 Julie, thanks so much for being with us.

00:27:06.300 Thanks for all you do.

00:27:07.460 Thanks, Sue.

00:27:08.100 Thanks so much for having me.

00:27:09.760 Thank you, everybody, for being with us here today.

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00:27:30.280 God bless you, and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - June 12, 2024

HUNTER BIDEN： A REAL CONVICTED FELON

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