The Great America Show - June 13, 2024


Our National Survival is on the Ballot in November


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Former US Customs and Border Patrol Agent Mark Morgan joins the Great America Show with Lou Dobbs to talk about his career and life in law enforcement and politics. He also talks about the latest in the McCarthy vs. Ryan feud and why he thinks Paul Ryan should be kicked out of the Republican Party.

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00:00:33.660 Hello, everybody.
00:00:35.100 Welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:36.800 Good to have you with us.
00:00:38.600 Well, Rhino, former speaker Kevin McCarthy, rejected once again by his peers.
00:00:44.340 The former speaker has been on a revenge tour against the eight brave Republicans who voted to oust him.
00:00:52.860 Tuesday, his power was put to the test in South Carolina's first congressional district.
00:00:58.780 McCarthy was trying to unseat Congresswoman Nancy Mace with his war chest of millions of dollars.
00:01:05.900 And he failed and failed miserably.
00:01:08.980 Well, Mace prevailed against her McCarthy-backed primary challenger by a winning margin of 27%.
00:01:17.680 That's prevailing.
00:01:19.800 And McCarthy isn't the only Rhino running around on a revenge tour. 0.56
00:01:24.320 His mentor, Paul Ryan, also out of the closet looking for revenge and no longer hiding the fact,
00:01:32.520 Fox board member Paul Ryan on Fox News this week.
00:01:36.800 Now, think about that.
00:01:38.260 How much of a conflict of interest is that?
00:01:41.100 A board member on Fox News railing against Donald Trump.
00:01:47.760 I mean, it's just nuts.
00:01:49.680 And spewing his Trump derangement syndrome all over the screen.
00:01:55.340 Ryan says President Trump, you know he's a big-time qualified character on this, Ryan, that is,
00:02:01.900 says Trump is unfit for office.
00:02:04.940 And, well, who should know about being unfit for office?
00:02:08.220 I mean, that is, that is all about Paul Ryan.
00:02:11.640 Here he is.
00:02:12.720 And I do think character is a really important issue.
00:02:15.580 If you put yourself above the Constitution, as he has done.
00:02:18.560 But what happened?
00:02:19.400 What turned you on?
00:02:20.840 What turned you on?
00:02:21.400 What's the whole January 6th thing?
00:02:23.500 That's a part of it.
00:02:24.260 I think it's a contribution of factors.
00:02:25.720 But I think it really is just character at the end of the day.
00:02:27.740 And the fact that if you're willing to put yourself above the Constitution, an oath you
00:02:31.280 will swear when you take office in federal office, whether it's president or a member
00:02:34.380 of Congress, you swear an oath of the Constitution.
00:02:36.560 And if you're willing to suborn it to yourself, I think that makes you unfit for office.
00:02:41.240 Does it?
00:02:41.880 Ryan obviously still can't get over the fact that Donald Trump got him the hell out of
00:02:47.900 Congress because he is the one unfit for any public office.
00:02:52.840 It looks to me like he's unfit to be on a public company board.
00:02:57.000 He's out talking politics on that company's news network.
00:03:03.500 And our friend, Congressman Troy Nels of Texas had a few choice words for Ryan after hearing
00:03:11.120 what he had to say about President Trump.
00:03:14.080 Here is Congressman Nels.
00:03:16.340 Paul Ryan, you're a piece of garbage.
00:03:18.540 You're a piece of garbage.
00:03:20.060 And we should kick you out of the party.
00:03:22.100 For Paul Ryan to say he's not voting for Donald Trump, that's the problem with some of our
00:03:26.020 Republicans.
00:03:27.000 It's guys like that.
00:03:28.200 Don't go spouting your mouth off and saying you're a conservative.
00:03:31.440 You're spitting in the face of the leader of our party, Donald Trump.
00:03:34.780 I mean, grow up a little bit.
00:03:36.540 Turning now to the cartel-owned southern border, six suspected terrorists with ties to ISIS have
00:03:43.780 been arrested in a sting operation in New York, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia.
00:03:48.820 Those six arrested are reported to have come through the cartel border to the south.
00:03:56.080 Our guest today knows more about that cartel-owned border than perhaps anyone.
00:04:01.520 He is the former head of Customs and Border Protection, Mark Morgan.
00:04:05.500 And now here is Mark Morgan.
00:04:07.980 And Mark, I just got to tell you how great it is to have you on the show again and to talk
00:04:13.360 about, I think, certainly, if it is not the most important issue, one of the most important
00:04:19.140 issues in this election and for this country.
00:04:22.620 Let's start with your assessment of what has happened here to the borders.
00:04:29.420 This administration has, without question, simply turned that border over to the Mexican
00:04:35.040 drug cartels, don't you think?
00:04:37.340 Lou, first of all, it's great to be with you once again.
00:04:39.820 And I couldn't have said it better myself, but I completely agree.
00:04:43.120 We were talking about it a few minutes ago.
00:04:44.680 And at the end of the day, look, there's been challenges on both sides of the aisle when
00:04:49.460 it comes to securing our border for decades.
00:04:51.680 But this is really the first time in our lifetime where an administration intentionally and knownly
00:04:56.800 came in and literally took the most secure border in our lifetime and intentionally unsecured
00:05:02.360 it.
00:05:02.580 And it took me a while because, as an American, I didn't want to come to this realization.
00:05:07.980 But at the end of the day, because we ask each other all the time, why?
00:05:11.820 Well, at the end of the day, we know why.
00:05:13.320 It's about perpetual political power.
00:05:15.620 It's about votes.
00:05:17.060 And really, there's two major things that strive to, one, we know that illegal aliens are 0.88
00:05:22.000 counted as part of the census.
00:05:23.260 So there's a very real redistricting of House seats in favor of the Democrats, which clearly
00:05:28.440 impacts Electoral College.
00:05:30.420 And then they're also playing the long game.
00:05:32.440 And they believe every single illegal alien, they find a pathway to citizenship is going 0.88
00:05:36.980 to equate to a Democratic vote.
00:05:39.080 So they've literally jeopardized our nation's safety and national security in the name of
00:05:43.460 politics.
00:05:45.180 And to that point, I was stunned to see, because as you know, for years, immigration has been
00:05:52.620 at the very top of this country's priorities in terms of political issues, etc.
00:05:59.080 But never before have we seen illegal immigration rise to 62% of those who say we have to have
00:06:08.620 deportations of all the illegal aliens who've come into the country in the past three years
00:06:15.420 and three months.
00:06:18.400 It's stunning to see it.
00:06:20.180 And by the way, it's also reassuring.
00:06:23.540 I agree on both counts.
00:06:25.580 If you would have asked me that the poll would have been 62%, like you said, supporting large
00:06:30.740 scale removal operation in this country, I would have said, no, that's never going to happen.
00:06:35.060 And that's, of course, part of the problem.
00:06:36.560 But I think the reality that's happened is that the past three and a half years, this
00:06:40.960 administration has so blatantly and so boldly opened our borders up again.
00:06:46.220 The last 40 months or so, there's been 10 million in total nationwide encounters, plus another
00:06:52.800 2 million gotaways.
00:06:54.120 At this pace, by the end of his first four years, you're looking around 14 million total
00:06:59.140 nationwide encounters and gotaways, Lou.
00:07:01.320 I mean, that would make it the equivalent to the fourth most populated state in this country.
00:07:05.480 That's insanity.
00:07:06.560 There's no country on the face of the planet that can sustain that.
00:07:10.000 None.
00:07:10.540 And I think the American people, after three and a half years, see that for what it is.
00:07:14.600 And they understand that this cannot be sustained.
00:07:17.760 And part of the solution can't just be to secure a physical border.
00:07:22.660 We also have to take care of the individuals that are here in the country illegally, as well 1.00
00:07:27.380 as go after the cartels, as you mentioned earlier.
00:07:29.840 And I think that's what you're seeing reflected in the polls.
00:07:31.920 And there's another poll I just saw from, I believe it was CNN, that said,
00:07:36.080 President Biden right now is upside down 28 points with respect to his handle on the border
00:07:41.480 as compared to the confidence of how President Trump would handle it.
00:07:45.180 Right.
00:07:45.540 And that is a major, major issue, obviously, for the electorate this year going into November
00:07:52.360 5th.
00:07:52.860 I also wonder just how in the world we're going to get it fixed.
00:07:58.140 I know the president has said he wants the largest massive deportation effort in the country's
00:08:04.120 history, a program to deport all of those illegals.
00:08:07.560 I mean, that is a huge undertaking.
00:08:11.320 No one knows that better than you.
00:08:13.840 What do you think it will take to remove, you said 14 million, let's call it, make it
00:08:19.840 easy, 5 million a year?
00:08:22.620 How in the world can we get them out of that efficiently, effectively, and in a reasonable
00:08:28.920 amount of time?
00:08:30.500 Well, first of all, let's step back real quick for context.
00:08:33.640 Really, to do what we need to do, there's a multilayer strategy.
00:08:36.440 First, we have to secure a physical border.
00:08:38.400 We need resources and policies.
00:08:40.960 I don't have faith that Congress is going to give those to us, so we're going to have
00:08:44.560 to do that through executive action.
00:08:46.100 But President Trump gave us those tools and networks and authorities the last time.
00:08:49.980 I'm confident the same thing will happen.
00:08:51.380 The second leg of that three-legged stool is we have to fundamentally change how we go up
00:08:56.520 to the cartels.
00:08:57.140 We have to defeat them.
00:08:58.040 They cannot remain in existence if we're truly going to have a secure border.
00:09:02.380 And the third thing is interior enforcement, Lou.
00:09:04.700 And here's what I say.
00:09:05.640 I know it's a little tongue-in-cheek, but people say, well, how can we do it?
00:09:08.720 And I say, well, we start with one at a time.
00:09:10.900 And my purpose of saying that is that we can't just give up.
00:09:14.920 We can't say because there's too many, what do we do, just not try?
00:09:17.980 We have the foundation.
00:09:19.700 Enforcement and removal operations, it's a subcomponent of ICE.
00:09:23.100 Look, I think there's some of the best in the world at going after individuals in a
00:09:27.280 country that are here illegally.
00:09:28.940 We just need to help ICE.
00:09:30.460 We need to give them, what I would say, assistance on steroids. 0.85
00:09:34.300 It's going to take a whole other government approach.
00:09:36.240 A lot of different departments and entities are going to have to be involved.
00:09:39.340 And we're also going to need congressional assistance, political will, especially through the funding
00:09:45.140 mechanism.
00:09:45.660 If we have all that together, we can do this, Lou.
00:09:48.940 Well, I certainly believe we can.
00:09:52.140 What I don't understand is the scale of it, because we've never before been bringing in
00:09:58.000 5 million illegals a year.
00:10:00.500 And I'm rounding off your number, 14 million to 5 million a year.
00:10:06.300 It's just how big would ICE have to be to be effective in that role of bringing those
00:10:13.840 people from wherever they are, whatever community, and getting them ready to be transported back
00:10:21.920 to the countries of origin?
00:10:23.740 Yeah.
00:10:23.940 So, Lou, you bring up a very, very good point, right, about the numbers that are coming in.
00:10:29.240 First of all, for interior enforcement to be successful, we have to cut up the spigot first,
00:10:34.460 right?
00:10:34.700 You know, the former chief of Border Patrol said, hey, look, you know, I don't need necessarily
00:10:39.860 more resources this moment.
00:10:42.120 You know, when his analogy was a fire hose, he goes, I don't need more buckets to manage
00:10:47.860 the water.
00:10:48.440 I need you to turn off the fire hose.
00:10:50.580 So one of the first things, strategy, we have to secure the border.
00:10:54.040 We have to shut down the border.
00:10:55.340 We have to stop the introduction.
00:10:57.420 We have to stop catching release of more illegal aliens.
00:11:00.240 That's number one.
00:11:01.000 And then simultaneously going after cartels.
00:11:02.780 But when it comes to interior enforcement, look, we're going to need assistance, including
00:11:07.520 from the United States military.
00:11:09.380 Now, I'm not saying we're going to be, you know, rolling military out into cities.
00:11:12.840 That's not what I mean.
00:11:13.620 But to help support them on the logistics side, whether that's transportation you talked
00:11:18.240 about, whether that's temporary detention facilities.
00:11:20.580 So we're going to need to augment ICE resources to be able to do that.
00:11:25.100 But I'll give you a look.
00:11:26.440 Eisenhower did this, you know, back in the 50s, right?
00:11:30.120 In one year, we removed over a million.
00:11:32.860 And then what we also saw, and I think the same thing will happen again.
00:11:36.120 They had over 700,000 self-deport.
00:11:38.780 So people are here in the country illegally, really believe we're serious about it. 1.00
00:11:43.420 You're going to have potentially hundreds of thousands actually self-deport as well.
00:11:47.820 And the last thing I'll say about this is that we've got to have the political strength,
00:11:53.120 courage, the will of Congress to support us financially.
00:11:55.540 And I think one way we do that is what ICE has continued to do, and that's prioritize
00:11:59.380 criminals.
00:12:00.240 No one can be off limits, but we prioritize criminals.
00:12:04.740 We go after murderers, rapists, pedophiles, aggravated felons, and gang members first, and
00:12:09.340 we can do this.
00:12:11.020 We're talking with Mark Morgan, the former commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.
00:12:16.780 We're coming right back, and we're going to talk about how do you move 15 million people
00:12:21.620 out of the country.
00:12:23.020 Oh, by the way, once you get that wall built, we'll be right back.
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00:14:05.320 We're back with Mark Morgan, and I want to start with this new executive order from President
00:14:11.880 Biden.
00:14:13.120 The man is a liar.
00:14:15.080 He's cognitively impaired.
00:14:17.220 He's a puppet president.
00:14:19.020 But man, does he have some kind of chutzpah.
00:14:22.680 This guy is telling everybody he's going to take care of the border now in the last five
00:14:27.200 months of this term.
00:14:29.520 And then we get this little proclamation guidance saying the door is now wide open for migrants.
00:14:37.100 Period.
00:14:38.180 And don't worry about all that stuff I've been lying about in public.
00:14:42.100 Here's what we're doing.
00:14:43.280 Bring them in.
00:14:45.080 Were you shocked?
00:14:46.080 I mean, we shouldn't be shocked by this guy.
00:14:47.900 But I actually was still shocked by just the outrageous audacity to go through this.
00:14:56.960 Yeah, Lou, I'm with you on that.
00:14:58.740 I called it.
00:14:59.500 This was a cringeworthy political stunt that did actually surprise me that after three and
00:15:05.540 a half years of saying, quote, there's nothing more that I can do.
00:15:09.780 I'm waiting for Congress to give me the power.
00:15:12.180 That was a lie as well.
00:15:13.880 I mean, because we know he used his executive power to enact 94 executive orders that dismantled
00:15:23.420 and destroyed all the network of tools and authorities we had in place under the John.
00:15:28.420 So he was lying from day one.
00:15:30.500 Hey, Mark, can you hear?
00:15:33.140 Yeah.
00:15:33.720 Yeah.
00:15:34.040 Yeah, you're lagging for some reason.
00:15:36.520 Hold on.
00:15:37.120 I just picked back up there.
00:15:39.880 Can you give us a 10 count?
00:15:41.080 Yeah, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
00:15:47.320 Yeah, it's off.
00:15:48.000 Hold on one second.
00:15:48.560 Let me put it in the lobby.
00:15:49.540 Let me pause.
00:15:50.820 And you're good to go.
00:15:52.480 Yeah, Lou, look, I'm with you on this as well.
00:15:55.000 I kind of refer to this as a cringeworthy political stunt.
00:15:59.120 So I was taken by surprise as well.
00:16:01.260 Five months before election.
00:16:02.400 Remember, this is the same president for three and a half years has been saying, quote,
00:16:06.740 there's nothing more that I can do.
00:16:08.600 I'm waiting for Congress to give me the authority and power to act, to address the crisis.
00:16:15.220 We knew that was a lie because we knew he used executive authority to enact 94 executive
00:16:20.360 orders that destroyed, dismantled the network of tools, authorities and policies we had in
00:16:24.760 place under the Trump presidency that really led to the most secure border in our lifetime.
00:16:29.640 But it's even worse than that, Lou, because the executive order, it's a joke.
00:16:33.160 It's meaningless.
00:16:33.760 It's not going to shut down or close the border, not for a day, not for an hour, not for 10
00:16:38.200 seconds.
00:16:38.940 The loopholes would rival a block of Swiss cheese.
00:16:42.420 I mean, it's actually going to allow 22,500 illegal aliens to enter on the southwest border
00:16:47.740 in between the ports of entry before they do anything.
00:16:50.700 That's a million a year.
00:16:52.140 They've also carved out if they use that CBP1 app, they're going to still allow them to come
00:16:57.300 to a land port of entry or fly into one of 45,000 airports and be released in the United
00:17:02.880 States.
00:17:03.400 That's another million plus the few hundred thousand guideaways.
00:17:06.700 That's why, Lou, that's why I keep saying, look, this is not a serious executive order
00:17:10.620 to address the crisis of the border.
00:17:12.460 This is about addressing the crisis at the polls for President Biden.
00:17:16.340 No question about it.
00:17:18.000 Well put.
00:17:18.520 And the idea that this country right now is losing, the estimate is 100,000, my guess is
00:17:28.440 it's well north of that, the number of Americans dying every year from fentanyl.
00:17:34.020 And that means that President Biden is responsible for the deaths of somewhere around 400,000 Americans
00:17:42.960 just in the short time that he has been President of the United States.
00:17:49.140 This is dastardly.
00:17:51.040 I mean, we're talking Vietnam, 58,000 killed.
00:17:55.400 And, you know, we have double that every year to fentanyl.
00:17:59.480 And no one's building a monument to those sorry souls who were addicts and killed themselves
00:18:07.620 on fentanyl, thanks to the CCP that delivered the fentanyl to Mexico and manufactured it. 0.83
00:18:15.440 And then the cartels distributed it in our country.
00:18:19.480 Yeah, Lou, look, once again, you said it better than I could have.
00:18:24.200 Look, this is why I've said for a long time, I'm with you, that both President Biden and
00:18:28.260 Secretary of America have blood on their hands. 1.00
00:18:30.620 Look, no administration, no matter how hard they try, are going to be able to be perfect.
00:18:34.400 But if you actually have an administration that's doing all they can to actually secure
00:18:39.640 the border, then, hey, you look at them saying, hey, are they doing the best they can?
00:18:44.380 That's not what's happening in this administration.
00:18:46.260 They're doing the opposite.
00:18:47.480 As we discussed, they've intentionally unsecured the border.
00:18:51.340 Knowing full, Secretary Mayer, because remember, he was the deputy secretary when I was chief
00:18:54.860 of the Border Patrol.
00:18:55.960 He damn well knows what's happening.
00:18:58.040 He knows the data.
00:18:59.080 He knows that drugs are pouring in every single day.
00:19:01.340 He knows that fentanyl is pouring in from the southwest border every single day.
00:19:05.420 He knows that our borders are unpatrolled and unmanned because they're off the front
00:19:09.900 lines processing illegal aliens.
00:19:13.500 Literally, we've handed operational control over to our southwest border, the cartels, so
00:19:17.600 they continue to push fentanyl across, killing Americans every single day that you just talked
00:19:22.600 about.
00:19:23.260 And the Secretary and the President of the United States know this is happening, and they know
00:19:27.880 it's a direct result of their open border policies.
00:19:31.300 So I do believe absolutely 100% they have blood on their hands.
00:19:36.140 Yeah, as do I.
00:19:37.760 I agree with you 100%.
00:19:39.480 And so as we talk about this, what about Mexico?
00:19:44.540 Everybody leaves, not everybody, a lot of people leave Mexico out of the equation.
00:19:50.080 And now we have a new president.
00:19:52.900 We also have a president that is, well, the old boss is the new boss because she is a disciple
00:19:59.180 acolyte of Manuel Lopez Obrador.
00:20:05.440 And so it's difficult for me to say that there would be any difference.
00:20:10.300 And if there is a difference between AMLO and her, it's going to be probably that she's
00:20:18.960 even going to be worse to deal with than him.
00:20:22.140 At least he preserves the idea of a populist.
00:20:24.420 She's a communist.
00:20:26.020 Yeah.
00:20:26.640 No, look, I think you're saying, look, the parallels between our two countries are really
00:20:31.020 remarkable.
00:20:31.980 I mean, you've got Biden that's holding the seat, but you know Obama is connected to that.
00:20:36.000 And I think the same thing is unfolding in Mexico right now, as you just described.
00:20:40.600 And I think here's something that as United States, we have to come to realization is
00:20:45.940 that Mexico is really no longer a true partner for the United States.
00:20:50.760 And they haven't been for a long time.
00:20:52.920 And we have to fundamentally change how we look at Mexico and how we deal with Mexico.
00:20:58.560 And in turn, then that will help us deal with the cartels.
00:21:01.140 I subscribe to the AG Barr approach to going after the cartels, the kind of planned Columbia
00:21:06.880 approach where we use the United States military.
00:21:09.280 I'm not saying we roll tanks into Mexico, but we use special operations capabilities to
00:21:15.260 use precision surgical kinetic operations to go into Mexico and really strike at the
00:21:22.360 heart of the cartels.
00:21:23.600 We know where all the meth labs are.
00:21:25.060 We know where the fentanyl is coming in.
00:21:26.460 We know where all the drug and human smuggling routes are.
00:21:29.480 And we can defeat them.
00:21:30.800 But that's going to be the only way we can.
00:21:32.260 Because Mexico doesn't have the political will or the capability to actually defeat the cartels
00:21:38.060 at this point.
00:21:39.640 And do we?
00:21:41.240 Do you think that we have the will and the resources to get it done?
00:21:46.700 I think that's a good question.
00:21:48.400 I think we have the resources to get it done.
00:21:50.340 The real question that I'm not sure about is the will.
00:21:53.540 Look, for the past hundred years, Congress has really failed to really step up and give
00:21:59.400 persistent, ongoing legislative fixes that we need to address the illegal immigration
00:22:06.920 flow and secure our borders.
00:22:08.560 The Republicans just blew it again.
00:22:10.720 Speaker Johnson, remember, he promised the American people he's going to, quote, hold the
00:22:15.160 line when it came to H.R.
00:22:16.360 H.R. 2 and not give a foreign aid package.
00:22:19.680 And at the midnight hour, for unspeakable reasons, he walked away from H.R. 2 and still gave
00:22:25.600 $95 billion to other countries to secure and defend their border.
00:22:29.160 So I'm not sure we have the political will to do it.
00:22:32.500 Or perhaps the Speaker of the House to do it.
00:22:36.420 We're talking with Mark Morgan, former Customs and Border Protection Commissioner.
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00:24:52.660 We're talking with Mark Morgan.
00:24:54.280 And Mark, again, just a delight to have you with us today.
00:24:57.660 Look forward to talking with you more in the days and weeks ahead
00:25:01.220 because so much is going to involve everything that your career has been about.
00:25:07.140 the sovereignty of the nation and to control our borders.
00:25:12.540 And, again, I'm just so concerned that we will once again run into a situation
00:25:19.220 where there will be opposition to a wall on the border.
00:25:23.200 There will be opposition to President Trump's plans to get rid of the cartels,
00:25:31.240 his plans to deport those illegal aliens.
00:25:36.080 Your thoughts?
00:25:38.100 I think you're absolutely right.
00:25:39.740 History has shown it again and again.
00:25:41.460 Obviously, we know where the Democrats are going to be.
00:25:43.760 But the challenge that I really have is the Republican side.
00:25:47.160 And you and I have talked about it.
00:25:48.860 Remember, the first two years of the Trump administration,
00:25:53.300 the Republicans controlled the Senate and the House,
00:25:55.420 yet they failed to get a single piece of meaningful border security legislation passed
00:26:00.180 that would have addressed the loopholes and really give the authorities to the president
00:26:04.640 and us on the front lines to do our job.
00:26:06.920 At the end of the day, we had to really look at and use purely internal policies and executive order
00:26:13.020 to get done what we needed and provide the resources like the wall that we needed.
00:26:18.000 I think the same thing is going to be done.
00:26:19.540 Again, we just talked about Speaker Johnson as a quintessential example.
00:26:22.820 HR2 was the strongest piece of border security legislation that's ever been passed
00:26:27.480 in either chamber of the Congress in our lifetime, Lou.
00:26:30.760 That was over a year ago.
00:26:32.600 And again, Speaker told the American people, Lou,
00:26:34.820 I promise we're going to hold the line on HR2.
00:26:37.420 Once he do, backs off, gives $95 billion to multiple countries to protect,
00:26:42.740 defend, and secure the border.
00:26:43.980 Meanwhile, nothing with respect to HR2 and our ability to secure our border.
00:26:47.880 So I don't have faith in either party that even if President Trump's in the White House,
00:26:52.320 that they're going to give him what he needs.
00:26:53.980 And so we're going to have to use executive order and internal policies
00:26:57.660 to actually secure the border and protect this country.
00:27:01.500 Do you think that finally, at long last, the political admixture is here, finally,
00:27:10.420 to actually put in e-verify, to hold employers accountable for illegal employees,
00:27:16.000 to actually deport illegal aliens who are in this country at the invitation of Joe Biden
00:27:24.300 and have come on over the last three and a half years, some 15 million of them.
00:27:29.160 Do you believe that we're near that in terms of political will and purpose?
00:27:34.240 I don't, Lou.
00:27:35.560 I don't.
00:27:36.520 If Speaker Johnson would have held to HR2 with respect to the foreign aid package,
00:27:43.180 I may have a different response.
00:27:44.900 I may say the Republicans are finally coming together,
00:27:47.820 and they're actually sowing some strength and political courage and will.
00:27:51.140 But they failed once again to hold that line and do what the American people needed them to do.
00:27:57.480 So what I do have faith, though, is that President Trump will come in
00:28:00.880 and give ICE the support they need to do to increase worksite enforcement operation,
00:28:06.200 to go after those companies hard,
00:28:08.740 and go after them every day across this country with respect to hiring illegal aliens 1.00
00:28:14.140 and actually holding the illegal aliens to task as well and removing them as well.
00:28:20.540 I think that's what we're going to need to do.
00:28:22.780 Now, that, I think the American people are starting to see the light,
00:28:26.200 and you're seeing some of that change in the polls that you mentioned.
00:28:28.760 Well, Mark, we're going to give you the concluding thought, the last word here today.
00:28:34.680 Great to have you with us.
00:28:36.220 And if you will, your concluding thoughts.
00:28:39.380 Lou, first of all, it's great to be with you.
00:28:41.100 You look great.
00:28:42.600 And I think, look, I love talking to you every single time
00:28:45.420 because you understand the issue.
00:28:46.960 You have for many, many years.
00:28:48.260 You and I have been talking about this for many years.
00:28:50.280 At the end of the day, if I could tell the American people, it's this simple.
00:28:53.460 Why are we concerned about illegal immigration?
00:28:56.720 Because border security is synonymous with national security.
00:28:59.840 When you flood our borders with millions of illegal aliens, 0.99
00:29:02.440 you pull resources off the front line,
00:29:04.700 away from the law enforcement and national security mission.
00:29:07.600 We literally have handed operation control, a large area of the border, to the cartels,
00:29:12.120 and they exploited to push drugs, criminals, and national security threats.
00:29:15.400 There's no downside to securing our border.
00:29:17.940 Less migrants suffer and die, and less Americans suffer and die. 0.55
00:29:21.360 It's that simple.
00:29:22.120 Mark Morgan, as always, thanks for joining us.
00:29:25.720 God bless you, and great to see you.
00:29:28.900 You too, Lou.
00:29:29.800 Thanks to Mark Morgan for being with us, and thank you, everybody, for being here.
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