Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) joins Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to talk about his upcoming primary challenge against Joe Biden in the upcoming primary election and what the Republican challenger should do to take control of the House of Representatives.
00:00:06.240After a number of failures, the Pentagon has confirmed it successfully test-fired two hypersonic missiles.
00:00:14.440The United States still lags Russia and China in the hypersonic missile race.
00:00:20.420Russia has fired two variants of its hypersonic missiles at targets in Ukraine.
00:00:25.400China is believed to still have a significant lead in the arms race,
00:00:30.160but the United States is now developing hypersonic missiles under top-secret raps for all branches of our military, including the Space Force.
00:00:40.300America's military may not always be in the lead, but it always does more than just catch up.
00:00:46.460Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent out a tweet alerting us to President Biden's attempt to defy the Supreme Court decision
00:02:13.280I guess, you know, first of all, we're still the greatest country ever in spite of Joe Biden, in spite of the Democrats, in spite of the left.
00:02:19.520And, you know, we just celebrated 246 years since that Independence Day back on July 4th, 1776.
00:02:25.960And it's still just an amazing country, greatest nation ever.
00:02:29.660Everything this administration has done is terrible.
00:02:32.260If, in fact, the American people put us back in power, we've got to try to do everything we can to hold the Biden administration in check, pass the legislation that needs passing.
00:02:41.560But at least we frame it up and we show the country the difference between where Republicans would take the country and where Joe Biden and the Democrats want to go.
00:02:50.400And then we help frame up the 2024 presidential race where, as we've talked before, Lou, I think President Trump's going to run.
00:02:58.500I want him to win because he's a guy who has proven he will do what he said, and he's truly made America great again when he was president.
00:03:05.700And then in addition to all that, if we win this fall and four months from now, we need to also do the investigations that need to be done to just highlight to the country the facts and the truth about all the ridiculous things that the Democrats have been up to.
00:03:23.480They've been up to it now for six years.
00:03:25.320We've entered actually the seventh of the Trump persecutions from the Marxist left authored by none other than Hillary Clinton.
00:03:36.440All of these are known facts, and yet there is no accountability for the Democratic National Committee, for the Hillary Clinton campaign, for Hillary Clinton herself, for the FBI, the Department of Justice,
00:03:48.700who were all knowledgeable about the lies and the farce that was the Russia collusion.
00:03:57.940And we've got to do something about it because this can't just linger, lie there, fetid in history.
00:04:07.340The great irony or the great injustice is no one seems to ever be held accountable from the left, like the Strzok, the Page, McCabe, Comey, Clinton.
00:04:19.020All these people, all these people who were involved in going after President Trump.
00:04:22.760No one ever seems to be held to account for all those actions.
00:04:25.880But meanwhile, the Garland Justice Department is spying on moms and dads, using counterterrorism measures against parents.
00:04:32.320And that's – it's that double standard that so bothers the American people.
00:04:37.780And, well, it should because in our great country, it's supposed to be equal treatment under the law.
00:04:41.660It's supposed to be the same rules for everyone.
00:04:44.240But instead we have one set of rules for the, you know, the, quote, elite, the Clintons and the Comeys and the McCaves, and a different set of rules for us regular folks.
00:04:53.080And it drives the country crazy, as you would expect.
00:04:58.360So this is why I'm committed, if in fact we win, to do the investigation on the border situation, which has to be investigated.
00:05:06.280This is intentional, what Mayorkas and Biden are doing to our southern border.
00:05:10.360Do the investigation needs to be done on the Justice Department's treatment of moms and dads and the political nature of the Garland-Biden administration Justice Department.
00:05:18.720Do the investigation, Lou, on the ways the Means Committee needs to figure out exactly how did thousands of Americans' tax returns get public.
00:05:26.440We need to know that so that it doesn't happen again.
00:05:28.780So all those – the Hunter-Biden situation, all these things, the country deserves the truth and the facts.
00:05:35.100And if we don't have a Justice Department that's going to hold people to account, at least we owe it to the country to give them every single fact, every single piece of evidence to show what exactly took place with these guys.
00:05:45.680And if I may, Congressman, it's also clear that the Marxist Democrats are leading the Democratic Party, that the Democratic Party is in control of our federal government.
00:06:24.240The scary thing is that we now have the left, which controls the Democrat Party.
00:06:29.660The left doesn't like the country, and the left doesn't like those of us who do love the country.
00:06:33.800And because of those two facts, they are willing to weaponize the government against it.
00:06:38.600And we saw it with the IRS 10, 12 years ago when they targeted conservatives and folks who listen to this great podcast.
00:06:43.960We saw it with – excuse me – with what the FBI did to President Trump five, six years ago when they targeted his campaign.
00:06:50.460We've seen it now with the Biden Justice Department going after moms and dads who show up at school board meetings to speak up for their kids.
00:06:58.100So the weaponization of government against the people who love the country and love what made this nation the greatest nation ever, that's what the left is out to get.
00:07:08.920And the other thing the left doesn't like is they not only don't like the country, they don't like us, they don't like elected officials making the decision.
00:07:19.840They want the Fauci's of the world making the decisions, not the people who put their name on the ballot and actually get elected to the United States Congress.
00:07:26.480I love the idea of the investigations until I stop and I think, okay, the Republicans are going to investigate the corruption, the rampant corruption our federal government does.
00:07:40.800That will be the Department of Justice and FBI.
00:07:45.000How in the world can you find facts or justice when those two corrupt entities are the only ones available to the good guys even?
00:07:56.260Well, that's – again, if we win, we will do the congressional investigations.
00:08:01.880We will bring out the truth and the facts.
00:08:03.800What the Garland Justice Department does is up to them.
00:08:06.100I don't know that they'll press and do the things that you and I would want them to do or, frankly, the things that weren't being done.
00:08:13.580But what I do know is if we do the – if we point out the facts and the truth to the American people, that just adds more weight to the decision in 2024 about who's going to be our next president.
00:08:23.220And I think that will just reinforce the focus and the push to make sure President Trump is back in the Oval Office leading this great nation.
00:08:31.040And then when he can then put in place the right attorney general at the Justice Department who's going to do what needs to be done.
00:08:39.120That's the way the American political system works.
00:08:41.640And, frankly, if you want to make real change, particularly in the modern American politics, you want to exact real change in the country, you have to have the White House.
00:08:49.360You have to have the executive branch.
00:08:51.140And so I think a lot of what we're going to have to do is frame up that 2024 race when President Trump – I think he's going to run so that – we frame it up so that he can – he has a better chance of winning.
00:09:02.120I think he's going to win, and then we can do the things that need to be done.
00:09:07.640I, as you know, want Donald J. Trump back in the White House as much as anyone in this country.
00:09:15.660My great, deep, and rising concern is that we don't have until 2024.
00:09:22.140Look at the damage that Joe Biden has done in 18 months.
00:09:26.960We have almost three years to go before 2024.
00:09:32.120I don't know if the country can survive these Marxist Dems, what they've done with the deep state, working with the complicity of the corporate news media.
00:10:00.560But – so then it would only have been a few months of Biden in office, and I was doing a little kind of small little town hall type of event.
00:10:07.120And there was an older lady in her 80s sitting on the front row, and she finally knew the end of the event, spoke up.
00:10:13.880And she actually had kind of – her eyes were kind of glassy-eyed, kind of teary-eyed almost.
00:10:18.340And she looked at me, and she said, I never thought it could get this bad this fast.
00:10:23.120And that is the sentiment of so many Americans.
00:10:25.580And it's scary when you look at literally, and as you point out, Lou, in 18 months, we went from a secure border under President Trump to now complete chaos where we have no border at all.
00:10:36.440We went from stable pricing to the 41-year high inflation – highest inflation we've seen in four decades.
00:10:42.500We went from safe streets to crime up in every major urban area, and we went from energy independence to now $5 gas in most states, $6 gas in some places.
00:10:52.860And the president of the United States begging OPEC, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela to increase production all while he tells Americans, suck it up, get used to it.
00:11:19.560American – we get through it like Americans always do, and we get to the next presidential election.
00:11:24.320I want to conclude with a question about Joe Biden, and that is, are you shocked, surprised?
00:11:33.800What was your reaction when his director of the Economic Council, the National Economic Council, declared outright that we're going to have to just suck it up, basically, deal with these high gasoline prices,
00:11:51.880all in support of the liberal world order.
00:11:58.420I mean, this is an extraordinary statement by the Biden administration, not qualified, not in any way withdrawn, that they are about one-world government.
00:12:45.780So this is this elitist, arrogant attitude that they have, that they're so much smarter and better than us country folk who live in the heartland where people actually do go to work every day.
00:13:00.480So that's what I think bugs Americans so much.
00:13:04.580And frankly, though, I think it's the reason they're going to lose, this arrogance and this idea that we don't care what the facts are.
00:13:11.560We're going to just suck it up and pay $5 for a gallon of gas and make it tough on your –
00:13:15.960and that attitude is going to be what's going to cost them and why Republicans are going to win this midterm election.
00:13:21.840And with that forecast, which we hope is as accurate as it can possibly be, Congressman, we appreciate your time.
00:13:33.460We always give our guests the last word.
00:13:37.220And if you will, your concluding thoughts on where we are today.
00:13:42.540We've had a Supreme Court that, you know, God bless them.
00:13:45.320They basically said over the last several weeks with these key decisions that came down that the Constitution means what it says.
00:13:52.320And I had a chance to call President Trump a week ago, and I thanked him.
00:13:56.560I said, Mr. President, these great decisions from this court do not happen if you're not president.
00:14:03.280If you're not willing to put up the kind of people you said you were going to put up for the court, if you're not willing to stick with them when they lied about Justice Kavanaugh,
00:14:09.660so many other presidents would have backed away from Justice Kavanaugh after what the left tried to do to him.
00:14:13.700But President Trump hung tough, and I told President Trump, this is part of your legacy, this decision on the life and the sanctity of human life.
00:14:21.760So it's a great country in spite of the left, and we need to keep that attitude as we move forward and head into this midterm election.
00:14:39.260Congressman Jim Jordan, great Republican leader, great American.
00:14:44.720And now we welcome to the show Dr. Mamet Oz, also a great American, and Dr. Oz is running for the Senate in the great state of Pennsylvania.
00:14:53.840He's in the battle for the Senate seat with one of the most left-wing radical politicians in the country, Democrat Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman.
00:15:03.020Dr. Oz, you won one of the toughest primary battles in the country.
00:15:07.800Now you're in a tough campaign with less than four months to go before the big election in November.
00:15:13.040You've succeeded throughout your life.
00:15:15.440So what's driving you now as you campaign across a very big, diverse, and great state of Pennsylvania?
00:15:24.220And I recognize that we spend a lot of time as Republicans picking the right candidate to represent us, and I'm honored with that opportunity.
00:15:32.760My opponent in this race did not have to have a difficult primary, so he's been sitting on his heels collecting money, getting ready to come against me.
00:15:44.000The most important goal in any campaign is to get the word out.
00:15:47.740So that's where a lot of our effort will be spent.
00:15:50.000But let me talk about the strategy high level, and then for folks who are curious, there's all kinds of different ways you win these races.
00:15:57.120And I'll say up front that I think I'm a better candidate.
00:16:01.400So the issues that he's going to run on I don't think will help as much this cycle because so much of what dominates the attention of Pennsylvanians is inflation because they're robbing our savings, especially seniors.
00:16:15.200There's energy prices, which is, you know, we're an energy state.
00:16:18.280We have more natural gas under my feet here than we'd ever could use in 200 years in America.
00:16:23.940And yet we're paying over $5 a gallon like everyone is on average in America.
00:16:28.140That's become a catastrophe because it also hurts our communities.
00:16:31.600So we're hurting our people, paying more for the right to not have employment in our communities, and then compromising our national security.
00:16:39.920None of this makes sense in Pennsylvanians.
00:16:41.640Crime is a massive problem in Philadelphia.
00:16:45.200We broke the record for all-time murders last year.
00:16:49.120There's a recall taking place for the district attorney whose name is Krasner.
00:16:53.340He was elected based on George Soros funding, and he has been against the cops being able to do their jobs, which, of course, destroys their morale.
00:17:04.620It's happened in San Francisco where they recall the DA in L.A. and New York.
00:17:07.980But the fact that it's happening to this degree in Philadelphia, which is the largest poor city in America, right?
00:17:13.540It's the fourth number four city, but has had fiscal challenges, which makes crime even that more likely.
00:17:21.160And finally, people are furious about the border, which is porous, and together with the human trafficking that's made a ton of money for the cartels, they're now bringing opiates across, which led to 100,000 deaths.
00:17:32.220And one of the drug capitals of the country is in Philadelphia, a place called Kensington, and people here all know about it.
00:17:41.840They're wondering, why can't the liberals figure this out?
00:17:44.040And I tell them whenever I give my rallies, and I did this morning, they have no agenda for prosperity.
00:17:49.940They're not taking us to the promised land.
00:17:52.380There's no shining city on the hill in their stories.
00:17:56.660And I think, although many argue that it's dimmed, if we look in the eyes of Pennsylvanians, you see just as much brightness as it has ever been there.
00:18:04.060So I'm optimistic Pennsylvanians know that we have it in us, and that we can talk about why the liberals have lost confidence in us.
00:18:11.260The polls show most of the countries lost confidence in the Biden presidency.
00:18:15.740Almost eight in 10 now say the country's headed in the wrong direction.
00:18:20.280What you're describing in Pennsylvania is happening all across the country.
00:18:24.220Sky-high inflation, sky-high prices for gasoline.
00:18:28.600We know diesel prices are through the roof, but now we're hearing talk of shortages of diesel fuel in various places across the country.
00:18:36.400All these shortages, whether food, fuel, or baby formula, are tied to the Marxist-dimmed policies of this puppet president.
00:18:44.920Well, Lou, you're the first person who's brought up the shortages issue with me.
00:18:49.580I brought it up of late only because I began hearing about it over the last week.
00:18:54.220Companies that make big stores for distribution centers, trucking companies, they're telling me what you're saying now, which is their primary source of fuel doesn't have fuel anymore.
00:19:07.060So they're going to second or tertiary or quaternary sources of fuel.
00:19:10.460This is probably, you have to drive a long way to get to those sources.
00:19:13.160And then fuel oil, which they need, obviously, just to put the engines, that's in short supply.
00:19:18.120And what I was shocked by is the narrative that this is all caused because greedy energy companies are raising prices.
00:19:26.000And this came up yesterday at an event that I was at, and that person blamed the industry.
00:19:30.320I said, ma'am, you're right that energy companies are raising prices.
00:19:33.020They're doing it because they can't find enough energy.
00:19:34.940And so the realities of supply and demand are if you don't have the energy, you're going to charge more for it.
00:19:43.260But if we had enough energy, which we controlled, Joe Biden specifically could allow us to drill in federal lands, which you and I and everyone listening controls and owns.
00:19:50.820If we could access those federal lands, that's one third of all energy in the country.
00:19:54.340It would actually help with these energy prices.
00:19:56.380It would immediately signal that there's a desire by the U.S. government to procure more energy.
00:20:01.480But we're sending the opposite signs and signals out there.
00:20:04.920And I only bring this up because I can already tell my own campaign that's going to be narrative because my opponent, John Fetterman, who's never worked in a private sector job, doesn't understand the machinery of how countries run and how companies run.
00:20:19.700You have to be able to show up at work on time and make payroll and hire and fire people.
00:20:44.080Class warfare, as you know, is a hallmark of the Marxist Dems.
00:20:47.380Biden obviously believes he can get away with destroying family budgets, effectively pricing our working men and women and their families right out of the American dream.
00:20:57.820Tens of millions of Americans are in deep financial pain right now because of the Marxist Dems who know nothing about economics or business.
00:21:07.840I think part of it, again, my job is to give America a dose of reality, just using my medical credentials.
00:21:15.400And I do that in part by just trying to figure out, you know, why would he do this?
00:22:35.360I want nothing between you and your doctor.
00:22:37.640And then the worst, in some ways, is education, where they do not believe that parents should be driving choice of schools or the value is taught in those schools.
00:22:47.380And parents in – I'm talking about parents from the inner city, you know, urban Philadelphia, to the most rural parts of Pennsylvania.
00:22:53.940They do not like giving up the safety of their children ideologically to people who have not proven themselves to be trustworthy.
00:23:02.040Whether we're talking about teachers' unions or the Marxist-dim mayors of our largest cities, they're destroying public education.
00:23:09.680They've created our highest crime rates in decades.
00:23:12.940In my opinion, the Democrat Party has gone mad, whether local government or federal.
00:23:18.300Well, if any government is strong enough to give you everything, it's powerful enough to take it all the way.
00:23:22.320And that's what I think more and more Pennsylvanians, anyway, are appreciative of.
00:27:06.500We want to make decisions as a democracy.
00:27:09.440So if we decide – I'll give you an example.
00:27:11.560If we decide that energy companies are hurting the environment and we want to pass rules to govern how they're doing those things, that's one thing.
00:27:18.940But if you purposely delay permits so they can't work, that doesn't help anybody.
00:27:41.540And likewise, they're now going to financial institutions and making it – that's shilling this institution.
00:27:47.920They're not letting them loan money to these endeavors.
00:27:51.060Again, as an American, you say, okay, I've decided that natural gas is a force for good because it actually reduces our carbon footprint and protects our environment better than anything else we could do.
00:28:03.920We don't have enough of the renewables yet.
00:28:05.460So we've all agreed we're going to go forward.
00:28:06.800Well, then you have to let the banks loan to them.
00:28:15.360They'll make it impossible for what they don't want to happen to happen.
00:28:18.280Dr. Oz, I want to ask you your thoughts about the integrity, the security of this upcoming election, whether voters can count on an election in Pennsylvania or nationwide that isn't rigged by the left.
00:28:33.040Most people, Republicans and Democrats, realize that it's important.
00:28:37.420And unfortunately, we've not been able to get it through a Democratic governor.
00:28:41.360But that will hopefully change when we elect a Republican in the fall.
00:28:45.300There are other tactics we're focusing in on to make sure that there is election integrity.
00:28:51.380It's impossible to make any election perfect.
00:28:55.540But we all owe it to each other, and Republicans especially, because we're the party of solutions.
00:29:01.160So my father told me when I was a young boy when he told me we were Republicans because Republicans have better ideas.
00:29:05.900We need better ideas for broader integrity to ensure that signatures are verified, that the ballots are actually submitted by the person who filled them out, that there's not harvesting of ballots.
00:29:15.320But there's a lot of programs now, our campaign and others are at the national party level, pursuing to make sure that the elections are fair.
00:29:24.800We don't want anything, you know, there's no favoritism here.
00:29:27.580Just trying to do it right so everyone feels that their vote's worth exactly the same, but no more than anyone else's vote.
00:29:32.620I'm optimistic we'll get there, but certainly in Pennsylvania we need a few changes to make everyone more comfortable.
00:29:38.160That's only going to happen if we have Republican leadership.
00:29:40.960Well, Dr. Oz, we expect you to be part of that leadership.
00:29:44.180We know you have some hard battles ahead of you in the fight against these Marxist Dems.
00:29:49.160We thank you for all you're trying to do for this country and wish you the best of luck.
00:29:54.280We're looking forward to our next discussion.
00:29:56.820Thanks for being with us and God bless you.