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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:01:23.320 Thanks for being here. Joe Biden breaking with the Supreme Court once again this week on his

00:01:28.620 student loan giveaway that the high court said he can't do. Here he is bragging.

00:01:34.680 Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families

00:01:38.740 with debt relief for their college student debt. Tens of millions of people in debt were literally

00:01:43.940 about to be canceled, their debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress,

00:01:49.040 elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it.

00:01:53.960 They blocked it. But that didn't stop me. I announced we're going to pursue alternative paths

00:01:58.480 for student debt relief for as many borrowers as possible. And that's the effort that's been

00:02:04.020 underway the last two years. I fixed what's called the save plan. It existed, but I fixed it

00:02:09.500 to make it the most affordable repayment plan ever. Good news out of New York. A New York

00:02:14.480 appellate court this week upheld a ruling striking down New York City voting rights for foreigners.

00:02:20.900 Back in 2022, the Marxist-Dem New York City Council voted to give nearly a million foreign nationals with

00:02:28.200 green cards, visas and work permits the opportunity to vote in citywide elections as long

00:02:34.640 as they have resided in the city for at least 30 whole days. Consecutive days on top of that.

00:02:42.020 What an imposition. The appellate court suggested the law would have eventually opened elective offices 0.88

00:02:48.160 to foreign nationals and that foreign voters would become about 15 percent of the city's electorate.

00:02:55.300 Our guest today is Russ Tice, former senior intelligence analyst with the NSA.

00:02:59.860 He's a whistleblower as well. And Russ, as always, good to talk with you. Welcome back.

00:03:05.820 Let's get to a couple of things that are really important, first of all, as we are wont to do here.

00:03:11.380 And it seems everything is growing in importance these days. But I want to talk with you about the

00:03:16.500 reauthorization of the FISA courts and the authorities under the Section 702 to spy on American citizens.

00:03:24.240 Your thoughts about how important it is to either authorize or not authorize FISA.

00:03:30.280 Well, of course, I believe that not only should they not authorize or reauthorize 702,

00:03:35.500 they need to get rid of FISA altogether. Where in the Constitution does it say we have to have

00:03:40.900 some Star Chamber court that allows, you know, secret proceedings behind someone's back,

00:03:47.360 or at least have the ability of someone to go back at some time frame, maybe a year,

00:03:53.300 to find out whether they've been subjected to this kind of treatment. But the 702 itself,

00:03:59.460 in my opinion, that's a front. Because NSA is already collecting everything we say and do.

00:04:05.380 They're putting it in their warehouse. And then they're saying that they're not surveilling

00:04:09.440 until they have someone literally listen to it. So, in my opinion, you know, the 702,

00:04:15.820 it should not be reinstated. But this whole thing is a front.

00:04:21.760 A front for what?

00:04:23.200 A front to legitimize the collection. And now think about it, with all the January 6th people,

00:04:32.040 they're saying that all this information is derived by someone who's talking to someone overseas.

00:04:37.520 Do you think all these people at January 6th have lots of buddies that are overseas in Europe

00:04:42.480 or wherever, and that they've been inadvertently collected by NSA's collection of, you know,

00:04:50.800 some nefarious bad guy in Asia or Russia or wherever? That's nonsense. Yet they use that

00:04:58.120 same information against these people that are being basically put in the D.C. gulag

00:05:04.060 for their political beliefs. So, this whole thing is nonsense. It's just basically something to tell

00:05:10.720 the people, oh, we have this special ability, you know, or these systems that have to be adhered to,

00:05:20.360 and that there's some kind of accountability. In reality, it's not. Everyone that had a cell phone

00:05:26.180 there on January 6th was having their information collected as well as their location. So, they knew

00:05:32.780 exactly where they were. And I doubt that most all of those people had any foreign communications

00:05:37.740 within the last five years.

00:05:40.840 And spatial surveillance is, I personally believe, there's no way that it is not a violation

00:05:50.540 of everyone's privacy and a violation of the responsibility of these intelligence agencies

00:05:56.580 not to be spying on the United States citizens. They're doing exactly that. And by the way,

00:06:01.640 so is the FBI and the NSA, as you and I have discussed for some time now. And as you put it

00:06:09.280 from almost the very first time we talked, NSA is a full-time surveillance operation, and everything

00:06:15.780 that is electronic is being monitored and recorded by the NSA, correct?

00:06:22.980 Well, up until about the end of 2012, beginning of 2013, they didn't have the capability to do that.

00:06:30.620 They didn't have mainly the storage space. But when they built that facility out there in Utah,

00:06:35.880 now they have the ability to store everything that everyone says, including some innocuous little

00:06:42.380 conversation, like I said, about two little girls talking in junior high school about how cute

00:06:46.960 the little Johnny is. It's everything. And they can dig that up anytime in the future on anyone that

00:06:54.240 they want to target.

00:06:56.060 So I want to take up two things in what you said. One, let's go back to when they acquired that capacity

00:07:01.020 that in terms of storage for the, I don't know what's beyond terabytes, but it's zillions of terabytes

00:07:09.980 of storage space. And I want to go back to the FISA issue. And let's do that first.

00:07:16.980 Jim Jordan is trying to reform the FISA reauthorization, but he is not going far enough

00:07:23.780 in the minds of many of those in Congress. And in fact, they have stopped the reauthorization

00:07:30.300 process right now because there is so much division among the Republicans themselves,

00:07:35.500 they can't even begin to get out of committee and they can't begin to get to the floor because

00:07:41.940 the Democrats, of course, want constant surveillance. Conservative Republicans, MAGA Republicans want to

00:07:49.440 protect our basic constitutional rights. I don't know how this ends, but I think it's probably going

00:07:56.980 to end as it has for the past decade. It's going to end up as a compromise that is entirely to the

00:08:04.160 advantage of NSA, the FBI, the CIA in spying on American citizens. What do you think?

00:08:11.600 I think you're absolutely correct. You know, a lot of these politicians on the Hill and in the

00:08:18.320 district, they know that NSA has dirt on whatever they've been doing. And a lot of, you know, none of

00:08:25.360 them are so lily white that, you know, they got where they were in some cases by stepping on people

00:08:32.580 and up the ladder that they're all afraid. They're all afraid they're going to be blackmailed. They

00:08:38.040 know that NSA has this information on them so that they're going to kowtow to the police state,

00:08:45.420 to the deep state, which, of course, NSA controls that communication. The FBI, they get that stuff from

00:08:53.500 the NSA, and so does CIA for that matter. So I think it's going to just continue on, Lou.

00:09:02.640 They may try to, you know, run it through under the radar, but you're absolutely right.

00:09:09.140 And as we look back to what you were saying about the storage capacity and the ability of the NSA

00:09:19.440 to record everything, we've learned talking with Mike Benz, something that you and I've talked about

00:09:27.380 before, and that is the issue of the role of our intelligence agencies in domestic politics.

00:09:36.600 Benz points out that at that time, and as you say, you're talking about the storage capacity and

00:09:43.840 everything else, Mike Benz is acquainting us with the idea and the knowledge that the CIA,

00:09:51.760 as well as the NSA, started building out specific programs using specific tools to censor Americans.

00:10:00.960 And it's been going on for the past decade. And effectively, they've turned all of the

00:10:07.720 technology that they were pointing at ISIS in particular, back in 2014. They suddenly decided,

00:10:16.840 you know, we've got a heck of a deal here, because we got a president in Donald Trump,

00:10:20.480 who is really causing a lot of trouble for the military industrial complex. And that is the

00:10:25.540 surveillance state as well, obviously. And they turned it on the American people. And the effect

00:10:31.840 was, with the 2016 election, as Mike puts it, Donald Trump was the enemy of the state,

00:10:39.520 the deep state, and the enemy of the Marxist Dems. And they decided that they were going to shut down

00:10:46.300 the American people and censor conservative voices as much as they could. We're talking with former NSA

00:10:53.640 senior intelligence analyst, Russ Tice. We're coming right back after these quick words. And we will

00:10:59.640 be taking up just who is running the United States of America. Stay with us. We'll be right back.

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00:12:43.380 We're back now with former NSA intelligence analyst and whistleblower Russ Tice.

00:12:48.960 And, Russ, you stepped forward when you saw that American citizens were being surveilled by the NSA.

00:12:58.760 It's been over 20 years ago, right?

00:13:01.800 It's been about 20 years, yes, sir.

00:13:04.660 And when you did that, you did so out of your conscience and your regard for the Constitution and the love of country.

00:13:14.280 We are watching right now.

00:13:17.340 Apparently, no one in the NSA is stepping forward in these dark times.

00:13:21.860 No one, I shouldn't say no one, but very few people have stepped forward in the FBI to blow the whistle on all sorts of dirty, dark deeds by the FBI, the Department of Justice.

00:13:35.640 We now know that the government is working against both the Constitution and the American people.

00:13:42.900 And yet the Republican Party, and this is my personal complaint, the Republican Party is not doing nearly enough in the face of all these whistleblowers and what we now know about both the capacity of NSA to store every electronic exchange that we make,

00:14:00.800 and the CIA, the military, all of their agencies, intelligence agencies, they're working against the American people.

00:14:11.520 They're censoring us.

00:14:12.900 They're blocking our voices because we got away with it in 2016, and President Trump was thereby the last man elected in an honest fashion over the last 10 years.

00:14:26.480 Well, you've got to remember, especially with what Mr. Ben said, now we know how we use this sort of information overseas.

00:14:33.460 They manipulated elections, and they manipulate how people think in other countries.

00:14:40.860 I mean, think about what else happened in 2014.

00:14:43.640 Wasn't that the rebellion in Ukraine where they kicked out a duly elected president?

00:14:49.760 And guess who was behind that whole – that was the CIA behind that.

00:14:54.180 So you're absolutely right.

00:14:55.880 They said – and, you know, I mean, look back in the 50s when what we did in Greece and how – back then it was like, well, we have to do this because we can't allow a communist to be elected.

00:15:07.460 Well, okay, that's all good and right.

00:15:10.080 But like everything else, we develop these things, and then ultimately someone decides, hey, you know, we can use this to manipulate the American people,

00:15:20.400 and we can use this to rig American elections for one side or the other.

00:15:25.500 And, oh, by the way, if I'm in the intelligence community, I say one side or the other, as long as you keep money coming to the deep state and to the intelligence community,

00:15:35.540 I'm going to make sure you get elected and you make sure that I'm going to be taken care of.

00:15:40.360 And that's, I think, what's happening, Lou.

00:15:42.060 Yeah, I think so, too.

00:15:44.520 I think – as a matter of fact, I know so.

00:15:47.800 There's just – it's inexplicable otherwise.

00:15:50.400 By the way, we should also point out in 2014, Russia annexed Crimea,

00:15:55.280 and there was not a single word of protest from Barack Obama and his administration.

00:16:03.100 That deal had been cut before it even began.

00:16:06.600 I am absolutely certain of it.

00:16:08.920 I can't prove it, but I am certain of it.

00:16:11.440 Because otherwise, there would have been an entirely different response to the taking of Crimea.

00:16:17.920 It's just – what are your thoughts?

00:16:19.820 Think about what national security interest does the United States have in Ukraine.

00:16:26.600 I mean, okay, they produce a lot of wheat that's for the world grain market.

00:16:33.960 But as far as a national security interest, we really don't have one in Ukraine.

00:16:38.160 That all comes down to – do we really believe that President Putin really wants to take back all of Europe

00:16:48.960 and then wants to go through the Valdigap and take over Western Europe and then, you know, become the hegemon of the planet? 0.76

00:16:56.900 Russ, that's what the CIA has been feeding us.

00:16:59.940 That's been the whole imperative.

00:17:01.440 And, you know, you can't be telling me the CIA would lie to the American people again and again and again.

00:17:08.760 Surely we would wise up if that were the case.

00:17:12.500 He said facetiously.

00:17:13.720 Well, you know, we've got to have a boogeyman, don't we?

00:17:17.920 And we can't – that boogeyman can't be in Asia because too many people are being paid off by that boogeyman.

00:17:24.300 So Mr. Putin becomes that guy.

00:17:27.080 And, you know, we have no national security interest.

00:17:30.420 It's the Russians – what's on Crimea?

00:17:33.640 It's the Vestopol.

00:17:34.620 That's the headquarters for the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

00:17:39.160 So of course they have an interest in that.

00:17:41.940 They can't have the Ukrainians talking about, you know, bringing in NATO when Crimea is literally the headquarters for one of their warm seaports for their military.

00:17:54.120 So this whole thing, you know, I see these people on, you know, oh, we must – you know, if this doesn't happen, we have to go to war with Russia or they're going to try to take over Poland and we have to preemptively – you know, these people, first of all, most of them are warmongers.

00:18:11.860 And they all have ties to the military industrial, you know, community where they're all getting kickbacks and they're all on boards for the big, you know, weapons producers.

00:18:22.820 So this whole thing, like you said, we're all being hyped up and we're being fed the boogeyman.

00:18:29.580 And like Mr. Pence is, they're using those means of manipulation to try to fool the people.

00:18:37.900 Yeah, and it's not just propaganda.

00:18:39.620 Again, I mean, it's outright misinformation, disinformation.

00:18:45.140 It is a propaganda campaign, the largest ever launched against the American people.

00:18:50.840 Its origin, the United States government, in particular, the military, the intelligence agencies.

00:18:58.440 It's outrageous.

00:18:59.980 And we keep talking about – you know, and I don't want to talk about foreign policy too much because it makes us ignore the most important issue of all.

00:19:06.940 And that is what is happening to us in our own country, domestically, brought to us by what has become our most dangerous enemy, our own federal government.

00:19:20.200 The military, the intelligence offices and agencies, the point of fact, the White House itself now and under Obama.

00:19:30.780 We are people who really are completely out of touch with reality.

00:19:36.940 The Republicans have to understand it, their leadership.

00:19:41.000 But I want to just say one thing.

00:19:42.800 Jake Sullivan, the national security advisor the other day, I think two days ago, said that when asked about whether or not President Biden would veto a bill that would secure the rights for free speech,

00:20:00.020 he said we might have to because he didn't – how did he put it?

00:20:05.740 He said that we don't believe that the First Amendment is in the interest of the national security apparatus, effectively, is what he said.

00:20:14.660 I mean, this is a – the national security advisor, the president of the United States, saying they don't like the First Amendment and want to get rid of it.

00:20:23.420 And they're getting rid of it.

00:20:25.360 I mean, I never thought we'd hear an administration official say that out loud, no matter what their intent or purpose.

00:20:33.200 Are you shocked?

00:20:34.000 Not really.

00:20:35.860 I mean, think about it.

00:20:37.720 This weapon has now been used against a former president of the United States.

00:20:42.080 They've used that to also augment the attack that they've put on President Trump to destroy him, all because he's running for president again.

00:20:53.420 This is – when I got out of college and went in the Air Force, they make you – you raise your hand, and you have to promise or you vow to protect the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

00:21:09.100 And I never thought – I'm like, what do you mean domestic?

00:21:11.600 I mean, we're all good.

00:21:12.360 We're all – we want to fight – back then, we had to fight the Soviet communists.

00:21:16.220 And I'm like, it wasn't until finally, after being in the intelligence service, and then being at NSA and that day, that fatal day that I found out what was happening, like being hit in the head with a brick.

00:21:28.220 And then I realized, Lou, that I worked for the agency that was an enemy of the Constitution, a domestic enemy of our Constitution.

00:21:39.500 I mean, it was like literally being – I was dumbfounded.

00:21:43.780 It was just – I was a cog in that machine.

00:21:48.940 Yeah.

00:21:49.360 Well, and that machine, what is distressing, I think, nearly everyone who cares about this country deeply and profoundly like you do, not only serving your country, but doing – following your oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

00:22:08.900 We are a nation right now coming to the realization that we didn't just – that Donald Trump was right in 2020 when he said it's a rigged election and rigged in so many different ways.

00:22:22.940 And here we are, going into this election, and very few people, very few people are talking about the likelihood that this election, that the deep state, the all-powerful intelligence agencies and the Department of Justice and FBI would let this election be free and fair because it is without question an election.

00:22:50.720 They're going to insist on winning because they're going to insist on winning because they know, they know what happened the last time.

00:22:57.080 Donald Trump is an enemy of the deep state.

00:22:59.760 He is an enemy of the establishment.

00:23:02.140 We're coming right back with a lot more that you probably – well, you know, all of us have to understand.

00:23:08.800 We've got to know about this.

00:23:11.140 And what we know is – it's gut-churning.

00:23:15.640 Our country is not what it seems.

00:23:18.160 We'll be right back.

00:23:20.720 Lou Dobbs here.

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00:23:51.280 We're back now.

00:23:57.800 We're talking with Russ Tice, former senior intelligence analyst for the National Security Agency, whistleblower, great American.

00:24:06.800 Russ, let's turn to what we're watching right now at court.

00:24:11.020 Jack Smith going after the president on classified documents.

00:24:15.480 There isn't a person I know who I respect in law who believes anything that the federal government is now pursuing, which is that the president didn't have a right to those documents.

00:24:30.600 It's just what what is your judgment with all of your experience in the NSA and and and watching all of this unfold?

00:24:41.260 What about Jack Smith and that preposterous assault on President Trump's both constitutional rights and and his guaranteed privileges as a former president of the United States?

00:24:56.020 Lou, Lou, I specialized in the special access program, which are which are much higher than the the they have their own security systems and everything.

00:25:05.640 They're beyond T.S.S.D.I., top secret, compartmentalized information.

00:25:12.020 I in my specialty in that field, especially with the space stuff I dealt with, I was able to classify my own information so I could put a classification on my own work,

00:25:22.280 on my own, you know, analysis on my own, you know, after action report or what have you, or when I wrote a mission, you know, where we're about to go do something spooky.

00:25:31.840 But the thing is, when I do that, to try to get that to be unclassified, I would have to go through such horrible machinations.

00:25:43.420 There'd have to be a committee.

00:25:44.600 And this is something that I wrote myself and I'm the mission specialist.

00:25:47.440 It was a nightmare.

00:25:49.760 But there's one guy, there's one guy that could take, no matter what level of security I was dealing with,

00:25:56.740 there's one person that could take that document and with a wave of the hand, like Mickey Mouse and the Sorcerer's Apprentice, the Disney Fantasia,

00:26:07.720 he could just say, this is all unclassified.

00:26:11.460 Everything you did, Russ, is unclassified.

00:26:13.100 And guess what, Lou?

00:26:14.000 It is.

00:26:15.040 And that's all it takes.

00:26:16.580 What they're doing is an outrage.

00:26:20.220 And you know what?

00:26:20.520 They know that.

00:26:21.620 They know that ultimately this thing is going to get thrown out because the president has that right.

00:26:29.320 So this whole thing is, once again, just one more avenue that they're throwing at our president, our former president,

00:26:36.780 to throw him off kilter to make sure that he cannot not win again.

00:26:41.420 What do you make of the insistence on the part of the Marxists who run the Democrat Party to have their puppet president Biden strip President Trump of his privileges on classified documents?

00:26:58.440 I mean, have you ever – could you have ever imagined such a ruse?

00:27:04.440 No, I couldn't.

00:27:06.560 I mean, these profligates, they're nihilists, and they don't care. 0.50

00:27:12.480 Like you said, this is all out in the open now.

00:27:15.040 The gauntlet that they're throwing at President Trump is incredible.

00:27:19.140 You know, I like to think this man must have a spine of titanium to be able to put up with what he's doing, what he's putting up with.

00:27:28.360 They're not – well, of course, the mainstream media, the lamestream media, they're just running with whatever – you know, they're not even journalists.

00:27:37.100 They're stenographers to whatever they're told to pump out there for the weak-minded people that will believe whatever they say.

00:27:45.340 But it's just an outrage.

00:27:48.520 Now, hopefully, if we can maintain a constitutional republic, someday, 100 years from now, when we're all dust and ash, that someday, these evildoers, these retrobates, will be enshrined in history as enemies of the Constitution.

00:28:14.000 And this whole thing will be taught, hopefully, in classes about, you know, how government can be subverted.

00:28:22.380 Yeah, I hope you're right, too.

00:28:24.960 And I hope it happens before – I'd like to see it happen, say, in the next year.

00:28:30.240 That Dustin Ash thing doesn't sound appetizing or too interesting.

00:28:36.500 I have to say that the country has to make a decision right now.

00:28:41.400 We know that they're saying perfectly out front in this administration, they want to pack the Supreme Court.

00:28:48.740 They want to add justices to the Supreme Court to dilute the conservative majority.

00:28:55.000 They ignore Supreme Court orders, whether it's affirmative action, whether it is orders on canceling student loan debt.

00:29:05.960 It's not being within the president's power, but he does it anyway.

00:29:08.980 This is administration – this is a regime now that is telling everyone to go to hell and that this is going to – there's a new dawning and a new America, and they're going to run it.

00:29:20.740 Is there, in your judgment, any possibility that anyone in the intelligence community would have the character, the integrity, and the love of country to stand up and say, no, and here are the goods?

00:29:37.460 We know that there are decent people, obviously, working in that administration, that agency, but what in the world does it take to get to the point that we no longer have to consider not only the opposition party, the Marxist Dems are now officially the enemy, so is the deep state.

00:29:58.980 And they have us in their crosshairs every day in almost every way, and they are changing our society and our way of life.

00:30:08.620 The American way is dying before our very eyes at the hands of these people who are totalitarian, if not an intent in effect.

00:30:19.080 And we can't tolerate it anymore because we're not going to have a government that requires the consent of the government so long as we ignore the fact that the intelligence agencies, the military, the State Department, this crushing establishment of the military-industrial complex is telling us what will be permitted, what will not.

00:30:41.320 And by the way, they'll throw 1,200 of our citizens in jail and throw the key away and not even put them up for trial.

00:30:50.320 This is no better than Russia right now, in my opinion. 1.00

00:30:54.260 Well, this is the highway to despotism is what this is.

00:30:57.040 And if you've ever read 1984 and see what Winston, you know, tried to do against the state, he was a functionary of basically new speech and that sort of thing.

00:31:09.660 When he tried to break out, he was tortured.

00:31:14.200 You know, so – and I use that as an example because I know I still have sources inside the intelligence agencies, and they're all running scared.

00:31:25.100 You know, they saw what happened to me.

00:31:26.940 And then we had a courageous young man come out, and he had the documents that proved everything I said.

00:31:33.240 When they said I was crazy for saying it, this young man proved it with their own documents.

00:31:37.540 Where is that young man today?

00:31:40.400 Ed Snowden is not in the United States, is he?

00:31:43.040 He's in money.

00:31:43.560 No, he's not.

00:31:45.260 Isn't that something?

00:31:46.040 So this is what happens when someone steps up.

00:31:47.760 And they do this to make examples of people just like Winston in 1984, and we know what's going to happen to him after, you know, they're going to ultimately kill him.

00:31:57.020 Well, let me be more practical about it, if I may, bring it down a little bit from, you know, from literature and just look at right now.

00:32:07.880 What could the American people do right now to protect the Constitution to assure the – assure that the republic survives?

00:32:18.020 You know, one of the instances would be there's a right to militia.

00:32:21.580 There is a right to the Second Amendment to put guns in our hands. 0.74

00:32:25.940 And we do that.

00:32:26.740 And let's say we start up neighborhood watches, and we stand up for the Constitution and insist upon it.

00:32:34.980 At that point, by the definition of this government and this god-awful national security group, the CIA, the FBI, et cetera, and the national division, the FBI, national security division, I mean, we would be enemies of the state because we're protecting the Constitution, which they want to shred.

00:32:56.280 But that's how upside down it is, how Orwellian it is.

00:33:00.440 I don't know where people turn right now.

00:33:03.060 Do you?

00:33:03.980 Well, you're correct.

00:33:05.900 And it has to be an upwelling of the people themselves.

00:33:09.180 But here's the thing.

00:33:10.560 Because of the security state and the fact that every aspect of everything we do is being watched, we have to be careful about how we ultimately, if we want to use the militias, of course they'll be coming for us.

00:33:24.140 But communications, do not use electrons.

00:33:29.180 And dealing with the folks I dealt with, we knew right away when we were conversing and setting up our little secret meetings in the woods at 3 o'clock in the morning that we could not use any means of communication.

00:33:43.520 No cell phones, no anything.

00:33:45.840 So everything was done with dead drops, and everything was done where we set up codes and everything because we knew the capabilities.

00:33:52.580 People have to understand that if, you know, don't take the cell phone to the meeting where you're going to talk about, you know, setting up your militia.

00:34:02.480 And don't turn on your TV set either.

00:34:05.000 Don't do that.

00:34:05.900 Remember, everything, all these smart TVs, now they have the cameras and they have microphones in your smart TV.

00:34:11.220 The child monitor can be tapped in by NSA.

00:34:15.200 Now people put the little speakers in there, you know, hey Siri, what temperature is it in, you know, some esoteric crazy place.

00:34:24.980 Oh, that's nice to, you know, have something like that.

00:34:27.280 But that's NSA's, you know, concubine that you put right there in your living room or your bedroom for that matter.

00:34:37.380 So with that warning, to all who are hoping to be able to stand up for the Constitution and to protect their families and their own rights,

00:34:50.260 it is a time where I personally, Russ, I have to say I don't think anyone could escape the prying ears and eyes of NSA and the surveillance state.

00:35:01.420 I think everybody has to understand that.

00:35:03.120 I also think we have to understand that we have a political opportunity in this year, but we cannot trust one thing that we're told by the government.

00:35:12.100 We can't trust one thing that we're being told by the Republican Party or the Democrat, except for one thing.

00:35:18.080 We have to be certain that the Marxist Dems, who are the enemy of the American people, never, ever get back to that White House.

00:35:27.100 We have to make certain that we put Donald Trump back in the White House.

00:35:31.740 Russ, we're out of time.

00:35:33.460 I'm going to ask you to come back next week and let's continue the conversation on what it means to be, well, a subject in the Biden Marxist regime.

00:35:44.540 Russ Tice, thanks so much for being with us.

00:35:46.780 My pleasure, Lou.

00:35:47.980 Thanks to Russ Tice and thank you, everybody, for being with us today.

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00:36:19.460 God bless you and may God bless America.

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