ISRAEL--NEVER AGAIN
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1,300 Israelis have been killed, more than 3,000 wounded, and almost 30 Americans killed in Israel since the invasion by Hamas began a week ago. Israel is now vowing that it will not relent until every Hamas member is dead. President Trump speaks to his supporters, saying that Netanyahu let the Israelis down.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. 1,300 Israelis have been
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killed, more than 3,000 wounded, almost 30 Americans killed in Israel since the war with Hamas began
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just a week ago with the invasion by the terrorists of Hamas from Gaza. Israel is now vowing that it will
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not relent until every Hamas member is dead. Netanyahu says Hamas is ISIS and like ISIS, Hamas will be
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And they are ISIS. They will be destroyed. The way we destroyed, the world destroyed ISIS, we will do
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that with Hamas. I ask you all to support the fighters, the warriors. All the people of Israel
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are behind you or the nation of Israel. And I tell the citizens of Israel and to my colleagues here,
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and I tell all of you, each one will help. In the words of the prophet Joshua, each one will help
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each other. The nation of Israel lives and together, unified, we will win.
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Reportedly, Hamas has been plotting these attacks on Israel for the past two years.
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And Egyptian intelligence officials say they warned Israel of the attack, the planned attack,
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days before it happened. Israeli defense officials deny the report. President Trump speaking to his
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supporters, saying that Netanyahu let the Israelis down when he didn't follow the intelligence. Trump
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also not holding back on Netanyahu when he refused to help the United States kill Iran's Qasem Soleimani.
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While Trump was president. I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That was a very
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terrible thing. I will say that. And so when I see sometimes the intelligence, you talk about the
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intelligence or you talk about some of the things that went wrong over the last week, they've got to
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straighten it out because they're fighting potentially a very big force. They're fighting
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potentially Iran. And when they have people saying the wrong things, everything they say is being
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digested by these people because they're vicious and they're smart. And boy, are they vicious because
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nobody's ever seen the kind of site that we've seen. Nobody's ever seen it. But they cannot play
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games. So we were disappointed by that. Very disappointed. But we did the job ourself and it was
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absolute precision, magnificent, beautiful job. And then Bibi tried to take credit for it. That
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wasn't good. That didn't make me feel too good, but that's all right. So they got to strengthen
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themselves up. The Biden regime never ceases to make a crisis worse. It seems Biden's State
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Department is forcing all Americans trapped in Israel to sign promissory notes to repay all travel
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costs if they decide to be rescued by the U.S. government. Imagine that. The Biden regime gives
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billions of dollars to Ukraine and illegal immigrants, but stranded Americans in Israel, not a dime.
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Our first guest today is Barack Shmuel. He is in Ascalon, Israel. Barack's friend was murdered by
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Hamas terrorists when he went out to surf as the attacks began. Barack joins us now to
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give us an update of what's going on in his country. And I want to first say, Barack, that I'm very sorry
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for your loss. I'm very sorry for what the people of Israel are going through right now. Give us a
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sense of what happened and when you understood clearly that Israel was under attack.
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It started out Saturday morning. I go out every Saturday morning, me and a few friends, we go and
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we work out preparing for the army. And on our way there, we had a siren. But that's not something that
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we're not used to. We're in Ascalon, we get sirens all the time. So when we got to cover, but then
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just the explosions were way, way louder and everything was much more intense. I was I was really
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confused what was going on. Made a run to get home, got caught two times. It was pretty scary.
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But when I got home, all of a sudden, I'm starting to see these videos of terrorists in the in cities.
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And at first, I'd like to be completely honest, I laughed. I thought someone was like, they were
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joking. These were people who were with caught like costumes didn't make any sense to me.
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And then it kept on coming. And it kept on coming. And it would not stop. And I was alone at the time
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my mother was in Italy. So I kind of just went into like a safety mode. I just locked the house. I
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checked to make sure no one's around scared out of my mind, like completely working only on adrenaline.
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I was absolutely terrified. But that's when I realized what was going on. These videos that were
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just absolutely terrible. And as you're rushing home, did you see any of the terrorists? Did you see
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activity that confirmed to you your worst suspicions? I in the beginning, it wasn't in my city,
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which I'm so very thankful for. The rockets, though, I saw them and it was it was I'm used to it. But it's
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it's always a little bit scary. You know, you're outside. I see them just above my head today, multiple
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times. And every single moment that happens, there's always that. Oh, my God. Like, what if it hits? So
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you have friends who are in the Israeli Defense Force. Are they are they now being called up in your
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community around your neighbors, your your your family? Yeah, everyone, everyone is everyone
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also wishes they could be there. That's the thing. My, my older cousin, he's like my older brother,
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we are we're like this. He's in a special forces unit. He was in Costa Rica. They got a flight
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immediately back and he's there now. And I'm very proud of him. And I wish I could be right there
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next to him with a gun protecting my country. And that's what everyone else would tell you.
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We all wish we could be there. Well, that is to your credit and your your fellow citizens.
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Are the sirens still still going? The rockets still flying? You're what Ashkelon is northern,
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the northernmost area of the Gaza area anyway. Yeah, I today I had multiple, multiple rockets
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caught catching me outside. Yesterday was a little bit scarier. I heard gunshots,
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multiple gunshots. There were terrorists in my city. Luckily, they were caught.
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Um, it was it's scary. It's it's continuing. And I know it is. And it will continue. But we'll take
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care of it eventually. I don't have it down my mind. And we know you will. What are you being told?
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Have you got a sense of the fight itself that is going on? We know that the IDF is preparing,
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obviously, to go into into Gaza is Netanyahu has said that he wants every member of Hamas dead.
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Give us your your emotions and your understanding of what's going on.
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My understanding is that situation that has come upon us is devastating and possibly the worst,
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one of the worst this country has ever had. But we will do whatever is necessary to
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ensure the safety for years to come. So whatever needs to be done shall be done. I am worried sick
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for my friends that are that are going to be there. I have multiple friends, my older my cousin,
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great, very close friends of mine that are have been there, have been in firefights.
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It's scared out of my mind. But at the end of the day, you know, this is they're fighting for our
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country, our country. And I whatever needs to be done will be done. And that's it.
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Well, I can hear the pride in your voice, your patriotism, I have to tell you, Barack is inspiring
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and gives us great confidence that Israel will do what it must. We thank you for your time. And we wish
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you all of the very best. Everyone in Israel, you are all in our prayers.
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Thank you very much, Barack Shmuel. Thank you for joining us from Ascalon, Israel. We're all praying
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for you and the people of Israel. Please stay with us. We'll be right back when we continue the Biden
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regime apparently blocking that $6 billion, which they had gifted Iran. We'll be right back.
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We're back now. And thank you for staying with us. The Biden Treasury Department claiming that the
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$6 billion Biden had ordered be released to Iran didn't happen. And Treasury officials now telling
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us that they successfully blocked the transfer of that payment from Qatar to the Hamas. Well,
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the attacks on Israel continue. The Biden regime has denied they possess any knowledge that Iran helped
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Hamas with those attacks on Israel, despite claims from Hamas that Iran was involved in the planning,
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the financing and support of those attacks. Those attacks unrelenting Israel under attack day and night,
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Hamas launching rockets into Israel, terrorists still infiltrating the border and crossing over from Gaza.
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And now Israelis are all in one way or another in the fight of their lives. Joining us now is Dr.
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Eli David. He's coming to us from Tel Aviv, Israel. And it's great to have you with us, Eli, on the
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Great American Show. I realize with this war that these are unbelievably stressful times for
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everyone in Israel. I appreciate you taking time to talk with us. I want to point out to our listeners
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that Tel Aviv is only 50 miles from the border of the Gaza Strip. If you would give us a sense of your
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state of mind, your emotions as you watch your country and your fellow citizens and yourself under
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attack by these Hamas terrorists. Thank you, Lou. Great to be here. It is difficult to express in words
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what the people, me, everyone feels here. It is like in the past few days, every day, I wake up in the
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morning after just a few hours of sleep. And for a few seconds, I just wish or tell myself that was just
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a nightmare. It could not possibly happen. It is so mind-bogglingly horrendous that the mind
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does not grasp it is even possible. And for this nation, this country that was founded on the ethos of
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never again after Holocaust, we're all feeling that we're back then. These are the kind of
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kind of crimes, kind of savage behavior that since the Holocaust, we have not witnessed. So that is
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more or less the feeling of the entire nation here. Well, we feel for you. And to listen to
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your prime minister speak of retaliation with just a clarity of voice, I think I'll just speak for
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myself. I have to tell you, I'm so glad that he is the prime minister right now, because he seems to
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be one with the state of Israel. And I think his leadership has never been more needed. Your thoughts
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about that statement? Well, no doubt there was a tremendous intelligence failure, military failure,
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government failure. Nobody's arguing with that, even people from the top of intelligence, military,
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and government. We allowed our citizens, over a thousand of them being slaughtered in their homes,
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just like the Holocaust. But there is a difference.
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We now are a sovereign state. We can defend ourselves. We are not going to continue to die
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like sheep, as it happened to us in the 1940s. The entire nation has come together. You expect
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when the war is going to start, everyone to flee the country. Everyone I know of is coming back to
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Israel, not just people who are going to fight in the military. The elderly, they're cutting their
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vacation short. They're finding flights with three to four connections just to be here. The country is
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united. Military intelligence, government, all those disagreements we had prior to this
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to this. These events, they're no longer relevant. And I think everyone is behind the government. And now,
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thankfully, we have this. The other main leaders of the opposition also joined it. So,
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the entire nation is looking forward to dealing with this
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And I hope that the Israeli people are aware of the support that they are getting
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from even an administration that was not particularly aligned with Netanyahu or the state of Israel.
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But immediately, the Biden administration dispatching the Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier,
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the strike force, bringing in munitions as quickly as they could be put together and shipped into the
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Israeli Defense Force. I hope that there is that sense that the United States is with the people of Israel.
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Indeed. Indeed. The entire nation is very appreciative of the support of the world,
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but especially and orders of magnitude above all the others, the United States. In these moments
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that we find ourselves and in the worst place we could have been since the Holocaust,
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we see a strong United States behind us. And it makes all the difference. You know,
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it was just not about Hamas. I think it's a much, much bigger thing. Iran is behind that,
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trying to foil the Israeli-Saudi peace agreement. Hezbollah might get involved. They will do just about
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everything to meddle here. And having United States with all the fleet and the aircraft carrier,
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another aircraft carrier also approaching, this is a very clear signal to the Middle East and to that
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one nation. As Biden said, don't, don't intervene.
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You and I have talked over the years about many subjects, but one of the areas that we have talked
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about is understanding the occurrence of modern life, whether it be in Europe or the Middle East or
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the United States. When you mentioned that the intelligence failure of Mossad,
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we've experienced in America, a lot of failures of our intelligence agencies and September 11th,
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the foremost amongst them, without a doubt. But there is also great respect around the world for
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your fighting forces, the Israeli defense forces, the Mossad. Are you, are you confident that Israel is
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prepared to take this to its, uh, in my judgment, rightful conclusion, which is full retaliation for
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what, uh, Hamas and Iran, its sponsor, uh, have, uh, have, have done?
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There is no doubt that Israel has the full capability of doing that. And it had that,
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but it's just a matter of having the will to do that, not just the capability. For the past two
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decades, what, what Israel did was, vis-a-vis Hamas, was a bit like what Winston Churchill said,
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an appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. Uh, there were hopes that,
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well, Hamas is not a terror organization. When day in and day out, they say massacre the Jews,
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they don't really mean that. What they mean is that, uh, they want to do a PR, they want to show
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that they care about all those things, but really they just want to govern. But now we saw that we
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actually should listen to our enemies, not interpret it in our own liberal, civilized world and listen
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to what we want to listen. They said, and they say it for years, we want to massacre Jews. That is
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exactly what they did. So now I think it's a kind of moment of disillusionment for entire country.
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My friends who are at the liberal left, even extreme left, all of them now say that,
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yes, we made a mistake. We thought we could coexist with these people. We made a mistake. It's
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impossible. So now the will part, the entire nation is united behind the will. And I'm confident that
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we have the capability. We're talking with Dr. Eli David from Tel Aviv. We'll be right back.
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We're back with Dr. Eli David. Eli, it is, uh, your, your family, uh, your friends, business associates,
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uh, are they, uh, have you, uh, are they all safe?
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My close family indeed were safe, but I know colleagues, friends, um, a good friend who have lost
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children there in that party. Now hundreds of innocent youngsters that their crime was that they are
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at a party there. They were just slaughtered. They have a friend, uh, lost a daughter there. I have
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another friend who has his own, his two elderly parents. They're both above 80 years old. They've
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both been kidnapped. Every Israeli knows someone who has a close family member killed or kidnapped.
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The stories that you hear are just heart wrenching. Yeah. It is the video that we all see that we've
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seen, uh, what we're seeing the American, the American people right now, looking at that video,
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uh, have to be thinking also about their Southern border right now. Uh, that is wide open. Uh, you had
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great, uh, arguably great defenses, uh, and detectors, uh, uh, along the, uh, the Gaza strip, uh, and they
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failed. We have a wide open border, 2000 miles long now, uh, that is under the control of the Mexican
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drug cartels. Uh, as you, as you are in the midst of this, the shock I know has to be extraordinary,
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but your leadership right now, uh, you feel that you have the resources, you have the manpower,
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uh, you're talking about a half million, uh, reservists and a regular, uh, IDF, uh, being
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brought up, uh, getting ready for war, uh, a war that they, I'm sure to feel that they're just now
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joining, uh, because they mean, it seems based on Netanyahu's statements, uh, that to level, uh,
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the Gaza Strip. Uh, what is, what is your thinking? You know, Gaza Strip has a border
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with Egypt. Israel doesn't control it, nowhere even near it. It's just between Gaza and Egypt.
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So Egypt can just open the border and allow the so-called, uh, innocent civilian refugees
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to flee into Egypt, but it's not doing that. Egypt has imposed strict blockade there.
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You know why? Because Egypt knows very well that these people, given the opportunity,
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they will just as gladly slaughter Egyptians too. When we are dealing with this fundamental ideology,
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Israel may be at the forefront of that, but it will be everywhere. Given the opportunity,
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the same masses who celebrated these atrocities in, in London, in Paris, in New York, given the
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opportunity, they will do the exact same thing in Europe and in North America. So let Israel and what
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happened here to be a wake up call to all the wokes, to all the people who tell stories to themselves
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about diversity, inclusion, multiculturalism. Now, when the, um, the terrorists slaughtered young
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men, women, children, babies, elderly, they didn't ask them if they're right-wing or left-wing,
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religious or secular, what is their pro-peace or anti-peace. They didn't care about that.
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The same may happen and will happen all over the world if we don't wake up.
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And you're, you use the expression wake up because we have been slumbering, uh, and you know, it's as
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if we all forgot that there are radical Islamist terrorists, uh, throughout the world. Uh, and we know
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that many of them have come into, to the United States in the course of just the past three years.
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As, as we, you know, as we watch what's happening in Israel and our hearts go out to you, uh, but our
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blood also boils. I want you to know, um, this cannot, uh, you know, you said it, the ethos of, of
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Israel never again, this had better be never again, because this is, uh, this cannot be tolerated.
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I hear the United nations, uh, uh, uh, talking about under these conventions that you cannot
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retaliate. Uh, I, I believe truly that, that the Israeli people must retaliate, uh, for their
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own existence. Uh, I mean, this is now existential. Uh, we are looking at forces that have awesome
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power to array against anyone, including the United States and to tolerate the, this, this madness.
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Uh, that has gripped, uh, so much of, uh, Europe, uh, the Middle East, uh, this, this, uh, hemisphere,
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the Western hemisphere, uh, it's, it's frightening indeed. And people had better be frightened because
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I think you're exactly right. Uh, we are looking at the consequences of for even a moment, uh, thinking
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that, uh, we are reliably safe, no matter, no matter the precaution. There is no safety in
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telling us stories about how the world should look or how we, we would like it to look. We should look
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at the world as it is and take action accordingly. Even right now, uh, can you imagine that the day
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after 9-11, Osama Bin Laden and his henchmen would be hosted as official guests of one of the close
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U.S. allies and give press conferences? You cannot imagine that, right?
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Right. Do you know where are all the Hamas leadership right now? They're all hosted officially
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in Doha, the capital of Qatar, which according to the official U.S. policy is one of the closest
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non-NATO allies of the U.S. So a close ally of the U.S., so-called ally, the ally of the West,
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is these days, as we speak, officially hosting all the leadership of Hamas, press conferences,
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the video the other day that they're watching TV, looking at these, uh, atrocities and just laughing
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and praying God, thanking him for that, in the middle of the capital of our friend. So this shows
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me that even though the Western world maybe has waken up a bit, it is not complete. Now, if you look
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at it as it is, you would have expected the entire world, the Western world, especially the U.S.,
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to tell the Qatari government that you must arrest all of these criminals the same day. Definitely not
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host them and fund them with billions of dollars. So I'm afraid we're still quite far from the kind of
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realistic view of the world as we should get at. We are looking at a war. I see it as good versus
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evil. How do you see this, this war? And how long do you think the fight will go on?
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It is good versus evil. For years, for decades, all the educated woke liberals are telling us that
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it is more complex than that. There are nuances to that. Well, there are no nuances when you see
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this kind of crimes. When you see 9-11, there are no nuances there. It is good versus evil. I think
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Israel with the support of the U.S. Israel should go all in. You cannot stop halfway. You cannot, when
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fighting the Nazi crime machine, you cannot say, okay, we liberated France and Poland. That's it. Now,
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now let's stop. Let's reason with these guys. The moment some people, some terrorists, get to some
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level of criminality, they tell you there is no way you can talk to them. So the only way forward
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is to finish them. And if that does not happen, that would be the complete, and these are strong words,
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this would be the complete moral bankruptcy of the Jewish state.
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And I think a fateful decision for the existence of Israel and, by the way, democracy throughout the
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world. We pray for your safety, for the good people of Israel, for your victory in this, and even
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achieving victory, I know, will not seem like recompense for the tragedy that has befallen you.
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Thank you. We wish you all the best, Eli David. Thanks so much for being with us.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. And thank you to all our American friends who stand together with
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us in these difficult times. Thank you very much.
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Dr. Eli David, thanks so much. And we pray for you and all the people of Israel.
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today. Our guest tomorrow on The Great America Show,
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Congressman Bob Good. Please join us for that tomorrow and join us each and every day. Follow
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