JAN 6 PROTEST OF ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENCY AND BIDEN DANGER TO THE WORLD
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The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs. 11 days of hell raining down on Ukraine s people and their cities. Putin's Russia is at war with Ukraine, and perhaps Europe is next. And we're talking about sanctions instead of how to stop Putin and his military.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and thanks for being with us here on The Great America Show.
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Russian missiles, rockets, and bombs still pummeling Ukraine.
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11 days of hell raining down on Ukraine's people and their cities.
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Almost a million and a half Ukrainians have fled their country,
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the largest number of refugees since World War II.
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One U.S. defense report that the Russians have fired 600 missiles already into Ukraine,
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and almost all of the Russian forces that had been held in reserve on the border with Ukraine
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have now joined the fighting and are very much in the Russian war against Ukraine.
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The total of all Russian troops that were positioned in Russia, Belarus, and Moldova
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numbered 100,000 to 150,000 when that invasion began 12 days ago.
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Putin has thrown almost all into his war against Ukraine.
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The Ukrainian military and resistance forces continue to fight hard,
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despite being outnumbered and facing far superior firepower.
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And Russia controls the skies, although Ukraine is reporting success in shooting down
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some enemy aircraft, as many as eight yesterday.
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The Europeans and the United States have now built up the flow of arms, ammunition,
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food, and supplies into Ukraine, as well as the anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles
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President Zelensky wants more, of course, including jet fighters,
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which the White House and Poland have reportedly approved.
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Putin's reaction to that report was to order more missile strikes against airports.
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And President Biden, who has said that he wouldn't sanction Russian oil,
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is now under tremendous pressure from Capitol Hill to do so.
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Putin has already said Western sanctions are like an act of war.
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It's only reasonable to expect that he will react.
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I understand those political pressures on the White House,
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and I seldom agree with President Biden on his policies or decisions.
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I obviously don't know his reasons or motivation for not banning Russian oil.
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But I do know the risk of the boycott is not trivial.
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And I believe those calling for the ban, the boycott,
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are doing so out of an anger that we all share,
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or their own political reasons, which obviously I don't share.
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This is a time for President Biden to explain to the nation clearly his reasons for not banning Russian oil.
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to tell us what that ban will do to us and the world economy.
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President Biden would be making a mistake to sanction Russian oil
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because it would have only a negligible impact, in my opinion,
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on Putin's ability to wage war, and then only over time.
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Such a ban would have a major impact, however, on our economy.
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We already have gasoline prices at more than $4 a gallon.
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The ban would add, I would guess, anywhere from $1 to $3 within a matter of days.
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Those price increases would ripple through our economy within a matter of a week to 10 days at most,
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adding to the already high runaway inflation rate,
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unsettling already volatile markets, and hitting our most vulnerable citizens hardest.
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The impact on the global economy and the markets would be just as damaging.
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And importantly, sanctions against Russia have not worked.
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Putin's Russia is at war with Ukraine, and perhaps Europe is next.
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And we're talking about sanctions instead of how to stop Putin and his military.
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And whatever the answer is, I truly believe it won't be as easy as simply sanctioning Russian oil.
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All the other answers are hard, and most of them unthinkably so.
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In times of rising global tensions and even the possibility of war, Americans once put their partisan politics aside and came together as Americans.
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We did that for a short while, but that ended with Iraq and Afghanistan, and not likely, in my opinion, at all, any chance of coming together.
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We're coming off a presidential election that half the country believes was rigged.
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We have a president who ran as an avuncular moderate, but is leading like a Marxist bomb thrower.
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And the Dems are driving partisan factionalism intensity higher with their January 6th committee and their obvious abuse of power.
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We'll take that up with one of the leading attorneys defending and helping many of the defendant demonstrators who are accused of rioting in the Capitol.
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The upcoming January 6th hearings will be a partisan clash like we haven't seen since, oh, well, the days following November 8, 2000, or the second impeachment attempted by the radical Dems.
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These midterm elections will be critical to both parties, and historically, the party not in the White House picks up on average 26 seats in Congress, four seats in the Senate.
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And we have with us today, one of the candidates who has his eye on one of those Senate seats.
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We're delighted to welcome Herschel Walker to the show, a great American, a successful businessman, a Hall of Fame football player.
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And he's now, for the first time in his life, a politician who's running for the Senate seat in Georgia that's now held by a Democrat, Senator Raphael Warnock, described by many as a socialist.
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Welcome to the Great America Show, and thanks for being with us.
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You've been running for office now for a while.
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You had to have some trepidation about doing this, as fearless as you are.
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What's it been like for you to be a politician?
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Well, I'm going to say something to you, and I probably wouldn't have said this a month ago.
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Well, I feel this is the best thing I've ever done in my life, and that's over winning the Heisman, being on the Olympic team.
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I got a chance, as I said, when I decided to run.
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I was wanting to go around the country, the state of Georgia, and listen to the people.
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And by me going around and listening to the people, I sort of give them hope.
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And, you know, being a Christian, you know, that's all I ever wanted to do is, you know, it's not about Herschel Walker.
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You see it from all the things that's going on.
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And I got a chance to give people hope, and I'm going to win this seat.
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I don't care what people do, what they try to come after me.
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I'm going to win this seat and do what I can to get this country back to where it should be.
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And we'd all do well to emulate Herschel Walker.
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And that reception that you're getting amongst the Georgians, is it uniformly positive?
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And as I go around the state talking to people, they're excited about it.
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I think you can see my fundraising and my poll numbers.
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And, you know, my opponents, they're not too happy with it.
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They're going to continue to say what they want to say.
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And what I say to them is, guys, I want to bring this party together.
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But if I honestly felt that I couldn't win this race, I wouldn't have got in it.
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And I like to bring them along with me and say, guys, get with me.
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We've got to come together as one and get this country back together.
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I love this country because I've gotten to America's dream.
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And by going around the state of Georgia, that's what the people are saying.
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They want the same thing that most people want.
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But the only way we can get it is by coming together and not trying to divide each other.
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And I'm so pleased to hear you speak of your own gratitude.
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I think it's one of the characteristics that's missing in so many people, not just office
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There just right now seems to be a lack of gratitude about the country that we live in,
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about the people that we live in this country with.
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And I just wish that all Americans would think about how fortunate, no matter how little
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or how much they have, just how grateful we have to be for this opportunity to make
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You know, my wife says something to me, and it has stood with me for a little bit.
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But I met a young man from Ukraine, and he was on one of my listening sessions.
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But what's wild about it is he was arrested in his country for being a Christian.
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And I think the State Department got here and his family over here.
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Well, what's interesting, he said, you know, in my country, I would have to pay someone to
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He said, I was shocked that I can go to college here and I got an engineering degree.
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And he also said, he said, you know, in my country, he said, you know, the government
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can go into the school and use different kind of, use our kids for test projects, meaning
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they can give them the vaccine shots for test projects and testing on our kids without the
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And by my wife telling me, Hirsch, you got to educate people.
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And I said, guys, people are looking at the grass being green on the other side.
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I'm not here to tell you that I'm trying to win this seat, just win this seat.
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I'm trying to win this seat because I want everyone to know this is the greatest country
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And you can only get those dreams here in America.
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And I'm not putting any other country down because I really don't care about that.
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I'm running for the Senate in Georgia and I'm running for the Senate to represent the
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But the first thing is first is the state of Georgia and the United States of America.
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And it's great to hear a candidate, a candidate particularly for the U.S.
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Herschel, I want to ask you, you mentioned your poll numbers.
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I mean, I've seen some strong poll numbers going into a primary.
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You may be setting some sort of records there, too.
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You look like you are the runaway winner of the nomination.
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Well, you know, the poll numbers are looking great.
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And that's what I say to my opponent is, guys, I want to bring you guys.
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I want us to go in and work together to win this seat.
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You know, there's no doubt the people are speaking.
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And it's like, guys, why don't we listen to them?
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Let's all come together and get ways that we can get this done.
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Because I think the people of Georgia know I can win this seat.
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I think the country, from my fundraiser, know I can win this seat.
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It is so, so important that we take Georgia back.
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And what's strange about it is I'm going to continue to fight.
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And I don't think anyone who's followed you over the course of your life has any doubt about it.
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And you're going to have quite a fight with the nomination and going into the general against Senator Warnock.
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You know, he says he won't renounce Marxism or socialism.
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What is your reaction to his statement about that?
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You know, he's a pastor in Martin Luther King's church.
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Who believes that, you know, what Martin Luther King thought about some of the things he seemed to be going against.
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You know, one of the first things that shocked me is his way of saying that, you know, he believes in abortion.
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And he talks about there's no room for a doctor, a mother, and the government in the hospital.
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And in the Bible, I told someone, I said, do anyone want to think about the Ten Commandments anymore?
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And, you know, every man should be treated fairly.
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And the things this senator Warnock voted for, now he's got a record.
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He's got a record that he's going along with all these terrible things.
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And, you know, and right now, that's happening.
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I've done well at running my business that I created from the ground up.
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You know, and I've traveled all over the world.
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You know, I've traveled during track and field, during the Olympics.
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And I said, I understand certain things that people don't realize I understand.
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I've been very blessed to get a lot of it more experience under my belt.
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You know, a lot of people don't realize you were valedictorian of your class in high school, too.
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And that's why I want every American kid to have the right to have a good education, to have a good education, because that's what our Constitution gives you the right to have.
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And, you know, one of the things, Louie, and I don't want to go off subject, but I'm tired of hearing how they continue to put the African-American people down.
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But we have our leaders, the president of the United States, saying, if you don't agree with me, you're a racist.
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You have our leaders voting to give people crack pipes.
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You know, where are we coming to in what they're saying and giving you a crack pipe?
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But the thing is, you have our leaders saying that.
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You have our leaders saying you're stupid because you don't know how to get an ID.
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And it's like, guys, I want to educate you and let you know that's what our leaders are calling us.
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And one of the things I want to give a shout out to the people out there, 2% of people are African-American don't have an ID.
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And those that don't have an ID, instead of us being proactive, why don't we be proactive rather than reactive?
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If you don't have an ID right now and you want an ID to vote, come to and I will help you to get an ID because I want to better your life.
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I give you a crack pipe rather than putting you in a rehab facility to make your life better.
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I want to make your life better by helping you to get an ID so you can vote legally.
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I want to help you to get an ID so you can have a bank account, so you can get on an airplane, you can get a job.
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That's the smartest idea I've heard from a candidate, either party, on the issue of voter ID.
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Because, you know, I've always said to myself, generally, well, sometimes I share it with the public, but I've always said it is really, it's racism by condescension.
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And I have never understood why the African-American community leaders would put up with that for one doggone second.
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Well, let me say something you said that we may need to take back a little bit.
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Well, who voted them as the African-American leaders?
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Because the leader would stand up and say, no more.
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And we'll start fighting to help them get a job.
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You know, what happened with the All-Star Game being moved from Atlanta?
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Well, then they walk it back and say, oh, no, no, no, we didn't do that.
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Yeah, everything that is happening in this country right now is hurting people that look like me.
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And I'm like, guys, wake up and put me in Washington.
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Put me in Washington because I will fight and I'll continue to kick the can down the road, staying on the same thing, but trying to get something finished.
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I have to tell you, I'm so impressed with your idea on voter ID.
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But I will make sure that everybody hears what you've proposed and what you've offered because I think it's very, very important to all of us.
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The Democratic Party has moved in a direction I couldn't even imagine.
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I know Warnock is reputedly a socialist, but I did not know that Joe Biden was a Marxist, an authoritarian.
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I mean, this party looks like I can't even describe what they are.
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I grew up in the ages of Scoop Jackson where he was a moderate Democrat.
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There is no such thing, as far as I can see, in the Democratic Party any longer.
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We've become a situation where we have, if you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, you can't get along.
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And because of the cancel culture that we have right now, it's more on the Democratic side.
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And I said, that is not great for this country.
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This country was built on a foundation of the United States Constitution, which is the greatest, the second greatest thing written since the Bible.
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And I wish that our elected official would read it because they read it.
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But yet we've become so politicized that now I don't care what the Democrats agree on.
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I'm going to agree with it, even though it may be terrible for the United States of America.
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Well, you cannot do that when you say that you're a leader and you're elected by the people.
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You're elected by the people to do what is right.
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And I said, that's the reason I'm going to Washington is to do what is right, not to just get along to get along.
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Like if I disagree with something that I think is going to hurt the Georgians or it's going to hurt this country, I'm going to really look into it and just say, no, I don't think that is great for what we need to be doing.
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Democratic policies, Biden policies, are they hurting Georgia right now?
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Oh, the Democrat policies are killing Georgia right now.
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You know, you look at the crime rate and, you know, people get sad when I say this, but it's the truth.
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Most Democratic cities that's ran now by Democratic leaders, crime is picked up.
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And look at, we gave up our, we're not energy independent anymore.
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We're now dependent on people that don't like us to supply us with energy, to supply us with gas.
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You know, and I said, guys, we cannot live like that.
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Our inflation, you know, I know how you don't spend what you don't have.
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I know that you can't spend what you don't have.
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You know, they talked about infrastructure for a little money at the top of it.
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But at the bottom of that bill, they talked about trees.
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They talked about things that has nothing to do with the infrastructure, things that if people stop and look at it, we have some of the cleanest air, cleanest water of any country out there.
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So, guys, we need to look at this and take note of it that we can't continue to spend money we don't have.
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And I said, you go to the Olympics, one of the most proudest moments of my life.
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Yet we had Speaker Ms. Pelosi warning our athletes not to talk against this regime in China.
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And I stopped for a moment and I said, it is so amazing that you warned our athletes right before the opening ceremony.
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Because here in America, we have the right to speak out whatever we want to do.
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You didn't tell them not to speak out against the American flag.
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I guarantee you China would laugh at it, too, if some of our athletes decided we don't want to stand for the American flag.
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But you tell them don't speak out against China, which brought this pandemic to the United States of America and to so many other countries in this world.
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We changed the All-Star game from Atlanta to Colorado, who got the worst, who's worse than Georgia in the Golden.
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Well, we give the Olympics to China, which they have slave labor.
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They have this pandemic, which has hurt the whole world.
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Yeah, they killed millions of people without ever being held accountable.
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And, you know, shame on all of us in the world for not holding them accountable.
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And for those 900,000 Americans who were killed, you're exactly right.
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Apparently, Stacey Abrams said, Georgia is not a place where it can repeal school mask mandates.
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What is so different about Georgia where people put up with a governor or a governor's gubernatorial candidate who says,
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Georgia isn't a place where you do the smart thing for your children.
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Did you see the picture of Stacey Abrams with these school kids where her mask is off?
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And then she walked the bike and said, Oh, I only took it off to take the picture.
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Well, you didn't tell the kids to take theirs off to take the picture.
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You've taken the opportunity to take the picture.
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And then I see a video of all the kids cheering when they were announced that, Oh,
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realize what kind of mental issue is doing to our kids that they're not able to socialize like they used to socialize or to do the things that they used to do with those masks off.
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So when a governor speaks like that, like I said, early on, and so many ran cities ran by Democrat, you see the crime rate is up.
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You see all the different things that have happened.
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Inflation is going off the roof and it is just terrible.
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And I'm not, I'm not telling people that, you know what you cannot, we cannot live like this.
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It's time for us to move forward and get over this.
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We got, you know, there's no doubt this pandemic is terrible.
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This pandemic has hurt the world, but sooner or later we got to move on.
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And I'm saying, yes, we got to be careful with this pandemic, but we have to move on.
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If we want to get some kind of enormously in this country.
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Go to teamhersher.com, become a part of team Herschel.
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And we're going to win this seat and get some normalcy back in this country.
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I don't want to overstate anything, but I'm pretty sure you will absolutely sense at least
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We appreciate the time you spend with us, the time you and I share together in our quest
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to assure that truth, justice, and the American way prevail in this troubling and often difficult
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time, times of peril for our nation and our fellow citizens.
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Almost 800 of those citizens have been charged on various counts in the January 6th rally and subsequent
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The Marxist leftists and donors and the activists and radical dims all joining with corporate media
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to call those charged that day insurrectionists.
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We have with us today one of the attorneys representing a number of those charged, and he's helping several
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others with representation back with us as attorney Joe McBride to bring us up to date on what has
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been happening in particular with those who are still in custody till certainly still ensnared
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Joe, it's great to have you here on the Great America Show again.
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If you would give us an update on the number of folks you're representing who were arrested
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or charged for activities that day, and the current number of people, as you understand
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it, being held in custody either in the D.C. jail or elsewhere.
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It is great to be here, and thanks as always for your continued work and support.
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You're a great guy and a patriot, and I know that I speak on behalf of a lot of people when
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I say that we're thankful for your work as well.
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So I represent five individuals charged with January 6 criminal charges.
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I am working now in concert also with John Kiannaga.
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So together between John and I, we represent 10 people jointly.
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We're sharing information in terms of a co-defense or joint defense agreement, which enables us
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In terms of people who are locked up, the number rises every day.
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And the number across the United States seems to be increasing.
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And it's certainly increased since the last time that we spoke.
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I know there's at least 15 or 20 more people who have been arrested and who are currently
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So there's probably another 60 or so people, if not more, scattered across the country.
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And that number, the expectation is that number will go up as well.
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So, you know, it's interesting that that number is rising.
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And I suppose we don't have any idea, really, at this point in aggregate, how many people
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I assume there would be a certain number of those as well.
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Because we're looking at the number of people charged.
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And surely some of them have had charges dropped because they were just sort of ensnared in
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In terms of people who have actually been charged and then subsequently indicted, to my knowledge,
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There are over 700 people who have been charged at this point.
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In terms of people who were looked at and investigated and then not charged, there is certainly
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I want to say it's probably somewhere between 50 and 100, if not more.
00:30:21.980
But those people are persons of interest to the defense bar, for the January 6th defense
00:30:30.460
For instance, there are several civilians or people who we don't know if they are civilians,
00:30:37.160
Ray Epps being one of them, who participated in the events of January 6th in a much more
00:30:45.500
meaningful way or nefarious way than any of my guys have.
00:30:49.860
But despite that reality, they have not been charged.
00:30:56.320
And, you know, there's a big asterisk next to that and then parentheses on what the hell
00:31:02.000
So, you know, we have some serious questions about the people who have not been charged.
00:31:07.080
But with regard to those who have been charged and indicted, the government hasn't let go of
00:31:12.220
Uh, and your clients, uh, are all of them, uh, out of, uh, out of jail right now?
00:31:22.620
Uh, no, Lou, uh, Christopher Quaglin is currently incarcerated, uh, or detained, I should say,
00:31:32.000
And, uh, Ryan Nichols is currently being held in what we're calling D.C. Guantanamo Bay or
00:31:40.440
Uh, they have both been in jail for a very long time.
00:31:43.860
Ryan has been there for over a year at this point.
00:31:47.400
And Chris is, uh, is suffering badly in, in, in, uh, in jail as well.
00:31:52.980
The, the, the, the Northern Neck Regional Jail has, has not honored the fact that he's
00:31:59.180
And we spoke about this last time and he's, he's suffering a great deal.
00:32:03.040
And because these guys have been held under these egregious conditions for this long, because
00:32:08.420
Ryan has PTSD and, uh, is being psychologically abused.
00:32:12.680
And because Christopher has celiac disease and he's being denied proper medical treatment,
00:32:17.580
we are going to be filing habeas motions in both of their cases, which amongst other
00:32:24.220
things challenge the late, the legality of their detention in terms of time conditions
00:32:29.440
and duration, and also raise awareness to the fact that, Hey, you're allowed to detain
00:32:34.820
these guys and hold them for safekeeping, but you're not allowed to punish them.
00:32:38.560
We only punish convicted persons in this country.
00:32:40.580
And if you punish somebody pre-conviction, well, that's a violation of their rights of
00:32:46.120
And because of that, they should be released from jail.
00:32:48.900
So those are some of the things we're going to be talking about in these motions.
00:32:56.300
Well, most of these guys at this point who are in have been charged with, uh, assaulting
00:33:03.620
officers, uh, at one point or another and, or disrupting the, the governmental proceeding
00:33:09.860
and namely the certification vote that was taking place that day.
00:33:13.240
And then a bunch of in-between crimes, disorderly conduct, picketing, parading, you name it.
00:33:19.000
They, they, they throw the kitchen sink, but the real big ones are the disrupting the electoral
00:33:28.300
Now, sometimes when people hear the assault on officers charged, they get really uncomfortable.
00:33:33.580
They're like, well, gee, if, you know, if these guys assaulted officers, maybe they should
00:33:43.200
Um, but, um, you know, we touched on this a little bit last time as well, but I'll say it
00:33:48.500
again, if, uh, if Tom, the, the, the, the, the, the postal guy and John, the school teacher
00:33:55.040
and Joe, the lawyer and Cindy, the doctor all showed up to January 6th at the Capitol that
00:34:01.900
day, having no prior contacts with the criminal justice system.
00:34:05.640
And then all of a sudden for the first time in their 50, 60 or 40 something years of life,
00:34:10.580
they're being charged with assaulting officers.
00:34:15.580
And the answer is clear is because in many situations, not in all situations, I'm not
00:34:21.100
saying all Capitol police or metropolitan police, but a significant number of them that
00:34:30.260
Um, and they often, uh, resulted in serious injury and then by instances all resulted in
00:34:36.860
So these people stepped up in defense of those other people because what they were seeing
00:34:41.360
shocked them to the extent that they needed to involve themselves.
00:34:44.600
Do you have video evidence, uh, for your clients, uh, of their, of the event or incidents,
00:34:51.820
uh, incident that occurred, uh, uh, that they're charged with?
00:34:58.760
Uh, yes, we have, uh, we have video evidence of all of it.
00:35:03.040
So, um, yeah, there, there are, uh, there's serious video evidence.
00:35:08.000
So, so this could be adjudicated rather quickly if only, uh, you could get to trial and if you
00:35:15.020
could get them, uh, well, I would, you know, you're talking about habeas corpus, uh, it seems
00:35:21.920
outrageous that if you've got exculpatory evidence that is clear and forthright, or at least even
00:35:29.880
just mitigating, uh, it would seem like this is something that would be in the interest
00:35:34.380
of the judicial system, uh, the legal system, but the penal system for crying out loud to
00:35:42.740
And certainly in the name of justice, someone should have already handled this in the course
00:35:51.860
No, you're, you're, you're on the, you're on the right track and your, your, your instincts
00:35:57.260
Uh, the, this is the situation, uh, COVID-19 was used as a pretext to delay everything.
00:36:03.720
Um, and because COVID-19 was used as a pretext to delay everything, uh, the government was
00:36:13.160
And in terms of turning over discovery, um, it turned it over incrementally and it's still
00:36:19.280
And then very recently they dumped a tremendous amount of information all on us at one time.
00:36:24.960
Now the government has had over a year to sit with this material, to monopolize it, to edit
00:36:30.900
it, to disseminate it to us in a way that serves them and not our clients.
00:36:35.520
And we have to, um, build, um, all of this from the ground up, search through it, parse
00:36:41.280
through it, see what's advantageous, what's disadvantageous, what's innocuous, so on and
00:36:46.040
That takes time, but because the government is now saying, oh, we've turned over all the
00:36:51.300
information in this case, we're now ready for trial.
00:36:57.160
And many of us have said, Hey, listen, judge, wait a minute here.
00:37:00.180
Uh, we need some time to go through this information because you just dumped eight months worth of
00:37:06.320
It is sad that, uh, Christopher Quaglin is inside and it is sad that Ryan Nichols is
00:37:12.320
inside and they shouldn't be, uh, but they are, but I have gotten each of those clients
00:37:17.600
to, to, to, to, to, to agree to the fact that we need to process this information in the
00:37:25.580
Give us the time that we need and let us tell you when we're ready at this point that,
00:37:30.140
you know, in order for us to proceed to trial, because we need to process this information
00:37:38.100
You're going to go to trial next month or in two months or whatever.
00:37:47.660
Delayed, delayed, delayed until the COVID restrictions were, were, were, were alleviated.
00:37:52.620
Dump all the information on them at one time, crush the defense guys under the information
00:37:57.160
because the judges are going to send them out to trial.
00:38:00.620
Do you, do you have unedited video that we could see on this broadcast?
00:38:13.760
So the way it works, Joe, you, with answers like that, you're going to make me think I'm
00:38:21.320
The answer is, do I have the video in my possession?
00:38:29.640
Um, because the government knows that the video hurts them, the government has filed for
00:38:37.180
protective orders and all of the, what it has labeled as highly sensitive material.
00:38:44.200
So that has to do with closed captioned, uh, body cams, so on and so forth.
00:38:49.500
And because they've labeled it highly sensitive, they made it impossible for us to crowdsource
00:38:55.080
the investigation process, meaning that I could release 20 videos to the public and appeal
00:39:00.660
to the public and say, Hey, if you guys want to help with January 6th related stuff, investigate
00:39:05.200
these, look for these suspicious persons, help us parse through this video.
00:39:08.440
And we can get that done in a week, but, um, in order to prevent us from doing that and
00:39:13.440
prevent the media from seeing the truth, they have filed for these protective orders.
00:39:17.340
And every time I want to show somebody like you, Lou, a video, I have to get permission
00:39:23.380
Um, and I have been successful in getting some of these things overturned and, and, and,
00:39:28.540
but anytime I want to show you that's anything new, I can't do it without the court's permission
00:39:32.660
and without tipping off the prosecution, which is, you know, it's ridiculous.
00:39:36.280
It's straightforwardly, what I wanted to do was to look at it and then be able to share
00:39:39.960
with the audience of this podcast, what I had seen, uh, and, uh, it, we're going to
00:39:47.160
be adding video as a component to this podcast very soon, but in the interim, uh, just to
00:39:55.840
Uh, so I, I'm going to, uh, but anyway, so I understand exactly what you're saying.
00:40:04.580
It's an unfair situation, both to, uh, your clients, uh, to you and to all of us who, uh,
00:40:10.960
as Americans, we not only ask for justice, we demand justice and we're not getting it.
00:40:16.620
Uh, I happened, uh, you know, I, I talked with a number of the Congress people, congressmen
00:40:24.940
What they report back to us is just, uh, harrowing, uh, the treatment of people.
00:40:30.100
It's resulted in the head of, uh, the prisons, uh, being replaced.
00:40:34.960
I'm not, I'm not sure about the quality of the people who replaced them.
00:40:38.400
Uh, we also know that they have a huge staff, uh, uh, shortage, uh, and it is a nightmare
00:40:47.480
Now, some of them may be guilty, but they're still American citizens have rights and should
00:40:51.320
be treated as Americans, uh, irrespective of their, uh, guilt or innocence.
00:40:57.940
But the innocent, my God, they should be out of there now.
00:41:04.320
And under the meaning of the bail reform act, even if you are not quote unquote innocent,
00:41:09.780
right, you're still entitled to, the government has to prove each element of every crime charge
00:41:14.360
beyond a reasonable doubt in court in front of a jury of your peers by the rule book.
00:41:19.260
It's, uh, you know, they, they, they have a tall order that they have to accomplish to
00:41:23.400
prove somebody guilty of a crime in this country.
00:41:27.580
Um, but unless you are an out and out of flight risk or an actual danger to society, you should
00:41:33.880
be able to fight these cases from the comfort of your home.
00:41:36.700
And they have taken that away, um, to, from these individuals and they are constitutionally
00:41:43.140
You know, let me ask you this, Joe, I'm sorry to interrupt, but, uh, it occurs to me what
00:41:53.320
I'm not going to ask you about your clients per se, but I'm of the people who have been
00:42:01.020
Um, what percent of them would you say have, uh, uh, uh, history, uh, a rap sheet, uh, a record,
00:42:12.660
I'd say, uh, conservatively less than 2% and at the most, probably less than 10%.
00:42:26.120
These guys, these people should not be in there.
00:42:31.380
Um, they know that these people are not familiar with the criminal justice system and they are
00:42:37.720
betting that these guys are going to take pleas that are unfair to them in order to wrap this up,
00:42:43.200
uh, most expediently as possible because they simply don't want to be there, um, any, anymore,
00:42:48.880
but that, that's how the coverup happens and that's how justice is averted.
00:42:52.140
Um, and that, that's not what should be happening.
00:42:55.000
They, they shouldn't be leveraging the pretrial, pretrial detention and torturing these guys,
00:42:59.220
um, while, while they're there so that they'll take a bad plea deal.
00:43:03.760
And, you know, when you have somebody like Ryan Nichols, who, um, is a, is a decorated veteran,
00:43:09.180
uh, honorably discharged from the Marine Corps, spends 75 to 80 days a year doing search and
00:43:15.220
rescue work, rescuing people from storms and tornadoes and floods, runs a business in Texas where
00:43:23.260
These are people who are former addicts or former felons, um, and has two young kids at
00:43:30.280
And not only is he there, they've taken away the ability for his family to see him and they've
00:43:35.540
taken away the ability in person and they've taken away the ability for him to even see
00:43:42.380
Every other section of the jail, all of the detainees can see their families on a regular
00:43:48.820
basis, either in person or via video conference, Ryan Nichols and Christopher Quaglin haven't
00:44:02.640
Uh, you know, this, this would be one thing of this jail.
00:44:05.840
We're in Tehran it's in Washington, DC, or it's in, uh, other places, uh, Virginia or
00:44:15.260
But, uh, if this is what we've got going, uh, and I want to give you just pause here for
00:44:21.100
And the last numbers I saw were from, uh, NPR on this 140 federal prosecutors working on
00:44:29.440
the investigation of these people, 725 people that had been arrested initially, 165 pleaded
00:44:38.860
And by the way, uh, when Joe talked about interrupting the U S Congress or disrupting
00:44:44.380
it in business, that is a felony, by the way, it is an absolute felony.
00:44:49.720
Uh, and I'm sure that not a person among them knew understood that, uh, when they were
00:44:56.520
there, but 70 people have been sentenced only about 70.
00:45:00.840
You may be able to update that, uh, Joe, but, and 30 have received prison time and others
00:45:07.100
Uh, this is, this is justice at a snail's pace that, as you said from the outset is that
00:45:18.340
Uh, and they haven't been found guilty in any one of those cases of anything.
00:45:23.560
Uh, this is outrageous and I don't understand why the Republican party is not standing on
00:45:31.020
the throats, uh, of those, uh, who are in charge of the, of the, uh, penal system there
00:45:36.900
in DC, uh, are throughout the Bureau of Prisons demanding that they act like this is a constitutional
00:45:46.020
Well, they're not doing it because these people, um, are objectively, uh, the January
00:45:54.000
6th cohort, they're all, it's, it's the MAGA crowd, they're Trump supporters.
00:45:58.140
And you obviously, you have people on the left who hate president Trump, and then you
00:46:02.160
have a whole lot of people on the right who hate him, um, as well.
00:46:06.360
And the idea is that if you stick up for these people, you are somehow by extension sticking
00:46:10.960
up for president Trump as well, and they won't touch it with a hundred foot pole because they
00:46:17.360
Uh, their biggest fear, um, in the entire universe is, uh, is, is the return, uh, of president
00:46:30.280
They shouldn't want to be associated with the democratic party either.
00:46:33.160
They shouldn't want to be associated, uh, with, uh, president Obama, president Biden,
00:46:38.100
uh, Kamala Harris, uh, Joe Biden is, uh, now president, but also was vice president, shouldn't
00:46:45.640
be one to be associated with the FBI, the justice department, because they are rank corrupted
00:46:56.040
They've spied to stop a, uh, a Donald Trump candidacy.
00:47:00.600
Uh, and when he lost, it's clear that they spied on him and broke the law.
00:47:05.920
There is such a rancid rot in Washington, DC and what the democratic party has done.
00:47:13.980
Anyone who is proud of being a Democrat under those, those kinds of leaders.
00:47:21.080
We're talking about establishment law firms, uh, the, the whitest of the white shoe firms.
00:47:30.220
It is, as I said, rank corruption in this country.
00:47:33.720
And we've all as difficult as it is, have got to understand what we're dealing with.
00:47:39.020
And what Joe is saying, uh, I think is the absolute truth.
00:47:42.760
Uh, we're dealing with, with politics, uh, that is perfectly willing to crush every one
00:47:49.960
of these people to get what they want ideologically.
00:47:58.940
And a lot of these people are no longer loyal to our country.
00:48:01.720
They are, um, they're, they're loyal to this internationalist cohort.
00:48:11.280
And they're trying to impose their way of life on us by any means necessary.
00:48:17.140
They're attacking, and they have been attacking for a very long time, all of our traditional
00:48:25.060
And by the way, look at what's going on at, you know, the, in, in, in, in Canada, you
00:48:32.300
know, uh, Trudeau is, is a graduate of, of, of, of the Klaus Schwab Institute, the whole
00:48:40.680
And what you can't protest in the street, a bunch of truckers dancing to techno music in
00:48:47.460
And now they are debanking everybody and they're declaring martial law over there.
00:48:52.660
They're suspending civil liberties in the name of what?
00:48:55.960
It's horrific to see what we're witnessing in Canada.
00:49:05.620
Uh, but also when Joe Biden, uh, sends a message to Justin Trudeau, be tough, uh, and
00:49:13.220
clean up that bridge and let commerce flow between our countries.
00:49:17.320
I, you know, he doesn't care one, one damn about those truckers or anything else.
00:49:23.640
He just wants to move, uh, the wares of the chamber of commerce and the business round
00:49:28.860
table and wall street, uh, and the, and the citizens be damned.
00:49:35.700
I, I, and right now what's happening in Canada, this is, this is their January 6th moment.
00:49:41.360
You know, January 6th here was a, was a protest against, you know, um, against the illegitimacy
00:49:49.900
And it was also a protest against the completely foreseeable danger that a Biden presidency would
00:49:56.620
present to the world, such as starting world war three, such as going to fight over a border
00:50:04.480
When we, when, when, when our, our own border is being invaded at this very minute, but yet
00:50:10.540
we want to go over and draw a black and white, white line in between Ukraine and Russia.
00:50:19.840
Unless your objective is to destabilize the entire world and its economy and make things
00:50:26.900
so difficult for everybody that they're going to force a change that none of us want anything
00:50:31.440
to do with a change that is not consistent with our way of life.
00:50:35.120
And with our way of being, um, I have said this to everyone.
00:50:39.180
I've been shouting this to the mountain, mountain tops for a long time.
00:50:43.060
And it's, you know, to paraphrase what I've been saying, it's, it sounds something like
00:50:49.740
And now is the time to prepare for what's coming because what's coming is not good.
00:50:54.580
It's also the time to ask for forgiveness of sins for yourself, for those who you love
00:51:00.180
and for the sins of the United States of America to beg God for mercy, because we have turned
00:51:09.340
And if you read, uh, history, the rise and fall of empires and or biblical history alongside
00:51:15.200
of it, you will see that there comes a breaking point where, um, enough is enough and people
00:51:23.720
And it's like, well, if you really want to see what the world is like when men are in
00:51:30.740
I don't think that it's a foregone conclusion for our country.
00:51:33.600
I still think that there's hope, but I do believe in the very deepest core of my soul
00:51:39.080
that, um, absent God's direct intervention and absent a spirit of repentance in this country,
00:51:46.400
that, that we may very well be in a situation that can't be fixed.
00:51:50.500
Yeah, it's, uh, it, it is a, a stark statement and one that I think should, should awaken a
00:51:59.860
Uh, but also we are right now as a country, we are faced with greater dangers from within
00:52:10.220
And as we look North to Canada, we see what, uh, authoritarian government looks like.
00:52:18.480
And unfortunately we look to our own nation's capital to see the repression, uh, and the
00:52:24.740
authoritarianism of the radical Dems, the left in this country, the Marxists who share both
00:52:31.560
Marxism and a one world global order, uh, with the left all around the world, the one worlders.
00:52:40.540
It is not a pretty world they have in mind for the rest of us, Joe, I'm going to give
00:52:45.860
you the last word here, uh, as we always do on this broadcast, uh, your last word, your
00:52:54.920
And I thank you so much for bringing us up to date.
00:52:58.660
Well, it's, uh, it's, it's always an honor to be with you.
00:53:01.460
And thanks again for all the hard work that you do to those of you who are listening and
00:53:09.520
Um, I ask you to, to please, to pray and to, uh, separate yourself from social media, separate
00:53:19.900
If everybody in our country for, for one or two days, just turned our phones off and threw
00:53:25.660
them in the jaw, in the drawer, closed our laptops, walked away from our electronics, the
00:53:30.560
powers that be, who are controlling this situation would lose all control in a matter of hours.
00:53:36.200
Um, they are, we're being controlled by our devices because we have an addiction to our,
00:53:42.720
This is what they are using to acquire information about accused persons.
00:53:47.380
This is what they are using to require COVID based passports.
00:53:54.860
So I would encourage you to set aside time every day to separate yourselves from those devices
00:54:00.200
to dig into your faith based beliefs, to spend time with your family and to think about what
00:54:06.720
you want for the future for yourself and not what that phone tells you that you should
00:54:13.860
Uh, do not give up on America, um, have faith, uh, and believe, and, uh, please keep us in your
00:54:26.340
And thank you very much for being with us here today.
00:54:28.720
We appreciate you sharing your thoughts and understanding of what is happening in this, uh,
00:54:37.280
We thank you for everything you're doing to counteract it.
00:54:40.900
And tomorrow, please join us when our special guests will be Mike Lindell.
00:54:44.620
We'll be talking with Mike about his efforts to set the record straight on the presidential
00:54:49.460
election of 2020 and Mike's efforts to make certain that this year in these important
00:54:55.300
midterm elections and 2024, we won't see these elections rigged in any way.
00:55:02.980
Lindell has a multimillion dollar strategy as well.
00:55:08.560
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00:55:23.640
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00:55:27.760
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