The Great America Show - JAN 6 PROTEST OF ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENCY AND BIDEN DANGER TO THE WORLD

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.380 Hello, everybody, and thanks for being with us here on The Great America Show.

00:00:19.000 Russian missiles, rockets, and bombs still pummeling Ukraine.

00:00:23.600 11 days of hell raining down on Ukraine's people and their cities.

00:00:27.700 Almost a million and a half Ukrainians have fled their country,

00:00:32.000 the largest number of refugees since World War II.

00:00:35.900 And the war goes on.

00:00:37.700 One U.S. defense report that the Russians have fired 600 missiles already into Ukraine,

00:00:44.260 and almost all of the Russian forces that had been held in reserve on the border with Ukraine

00:00:49.940 have now joined the fighting and are very much in the Russian war against Ukraine.

00:00:56.200 The total of all Russian troops that were positioned in Russia, Belarus, and Moldova

00:01:02.260 numbered 100,000 to 150,000 when that invasion began 12 days ago.

00:01:08.580 Putin has thrown almost all into his war against Ukraine.

00:01:13.300 The Ukrainian military and resistance forces continue to fight hard,

00:01:18.040 despite being outnumbered and facing far superior firepower.

00:01:21.760 And Russia controls the skies, although Ukraine is reporting success in shooting down

00:01:27.700 some enemy aircraft, as many as eight yesterday.

00:01:32.160 The Europeans and the United States have now built up the flow of arms, ammunition,

00:01:37.120 food, and supplies into Ukraine, as well as the anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles

00:01:43.020 that they need so much.

00:01:44.900 President Zelensky wants more, of course, including jet fighters,

00:01:48.580 which the White House and Poland have reportedly approved.

00:01:53.160 Putin's reaction to that report was to order more missile strikes against airports.

00:01:58.660 And President Biden, who has said that he wouldn't sanction Russian oil,

00:02:02.780 is now under tremendous pressure from Capitol Hill to do so.

00:02:07.680 Putin has already said Western sanctions are like an act of war.

00:02:12.060 It's only reasonable to expect that he will react.

00:02:15.400 I understand those political pressures on the White House,

00:02:19.120 and I seldom agree with President Biden on his policies or decisions.

00:02:24.220 But in this instance, I do.

00:02:26.540 I obviously don't know his reasons or motivation for not banning Russian oil.

00:02:31.800 But I do know the risk of the boycott is not trivial.

00:02:35.760 And I believe those calling for the ban, the boycott,

00:02:39.100 are doing so out of an anger that we all share,

00:02:42.380 or their own political reasons, which obviously I don't share.

00:02:47.420 This is a time for President Biden to explain to the nation clearly his reasons for not banning Russian oil.

00:02:55.420 And if he were to change his mind,

00:02:58.240 to tell us what that ban will do to us and the world economy.

00:03:03.120 I'll go first.

00:03:04.520 And here's my thinking.

00:03:05.560 President Biden would be making a mistake to sanction Russian oil

00:03:10.040 because it would have only a negligible impact, in my opinion,

00:03:14.100 on Putin's ability to wage war, and then only over time.

00:03:19.280 Such a ban would have a major impact, however, on our economy.

00:03:24.360 We already have gasoline prices at more than $4 a gallon.

00:03:28.460 The ban would add, I would guess, anywhere from $1 to $3 within a matter of days.

00:03:34.640 Those price increases would ripple through our economy within a matter of a week to 10 days at most,

00:03:41.900 adding to the already high runaway inflation rate,

00:03:45.800 unsettling already volatile markets, and hitting our most vulnerable citizens hardest.

00:03:51.320 The impact on the global economy and the markets would be just as damaging.

00:03:57.260 And importantly, sanctions against Russia have not worked.

00:04:02.060 Not once.

00:04:03.800 Not ever.

00:04:05.360 Yet here we are.

00:04:07.060 Putin's Russia is at war with Ukraine, and perhaps Europe is next.

00:04:11.760 And we're talking about sanctions instead of how to stop Putin and his military.

00:04:18.040 And whatever the answer is, I truly believe it won't be as easy as simply sanctioning Russian oil.

00:04:25.780 All the other answers are hard, and most of them unthinkably so.

00:04:31.320 In times of rising global tensions and even the possibility of war, Americans once put their partisan politics aside and came together as Americans.

00:04:41.680 We did that for a short while, but that ended with Iraq and Afghanistan, and not likely, in my opinion, at all, any chance of coming together.

00:04:55.440 We're coming off a presidential election that half the country believes was rigged.

00:05:10.060 We have a president who ran as an avuncular moderate, but is leading like a Marxist bomb thrower.

00:05:17.000 And the Dems are driving partisan factionalism intensity higher with their January 6th committee and their obvious abuse of power.

00:05:26.280 We'll take that up with one of the leading attorneys defending and helping many of the defendant demonstrators who are accused of rioting in the Capitol.

00:05:36.020 Attorney Joe McBride is with us today.

00:05:38.260 The upcoming January 6th hearings will be a partisan clash like we haven't seen since, oh, well, the days following November 8, 2000, or the second impeachment attempted by the radical Dems.

00:05:52.560 These midterm elections will be critical to both parties, and historically, the party not in the White House picks up on average 26 seats in Congress, four seats in the Senate.

00:06:03.740 And we have with us today, one of the candidates who has his eye on one of those Senate seats.

00:06:10.180 We're delighted to welcome Herschel Walker to the show, a great American, a successful businessman, a Hall of Fame football player.

00:06:18.240 And he's now, for the first time in his life, a politician who's running for the Senate seat in Georgia that's now held by a Democrat, Senator Raphael Warnock, described by many as a socialist.

00:06:31.700 Herschel, great to have you with us.

00:06:32.980 Welcome to the Great America Show, and thanks for being with us.

00:06:36.140 You've been running for office now for a while.

00:06:38.800 You're now a veteran.

00:06:42.600 You had to have some trepidation about doing this, as fearless as you are.

00:06:49.380 What's it been like for you to be a politician?

00:06:54.860 Well, I'm going to say something to you, and I probably wouldn't have said this a month ago.

00:06:58.460 Well, I feel this is the best thing I've ever done in my life, and that's over winning the Heisman, being on the Olympic team.

00:07:06.280 It's the best thing I've ever done.

00:07:08.320 And let me tell you the reason why.

00:07:09.980 I got a chance, as I said, when I decided to run.

00:07:12.780 I was wanting to go around the country, the state of Georgia, and listen to the people.

00:07:17.720 And by me going around and listening to the people, I sort of give them hope.

00:07:21.940 I give them hope.

00:07:23.020 And, you know, being a Christian, you know, that's all I ever wanted to do is, you know, it's not about Herschel Walker.

00:07:27.820 It's about helping your fellow man.

00:07:29.080 Right now, this country is hurting.

00:07:30.900 The state of Georgia is hurting.

00:07:32.020 You see it from all the things that's going on.

00:07:34.540 And I got a chance to give people hope, and I'm going to win this seat.

00:07:37.940 I don't care what people do, what they try to come after me.

00:07:40.760 I'm going to win this seat and do what I can to get this country back to where it should be.

00:07:46.040 Well, God bless you.

00:07:47.660 That's a wonderful philosophy and outlook.

00:07:51.240 And we'd all do well to emulate Herschel Walker.

00:07:55.520 You're a lifelong Georgian.

00:07:57.300 And that reception that you're getting amongst the Georgians, is it uniformly positive?

00:08:06.420 It is.

00:08:07.220 And that's what's so amazing.

00:08:08.540 It's very uniformly positive.

00:08:10.900 And as I go around the state talking to people, they're excited about it.

00:08:15.060 I think you can see my fundraising and my poll numbers.

00:08:18.340 And, you know, my opponents, they're not too happy with it.

00:08:20.540 They're going to continue to say what they want to say.

00:08:22.100 And what I say to them is, guys, I want to bring this party together.

00:08:25.260 But if I honestly felt that I couldn't win this race, I wouldn't have got in it.

00:08:29.240 But I know I can win it.

00:08:30.680 I know I can win it.

00:08:31.860 And I like to bring them along with me and say, guys, get with me.

00:08:35.780 Let's bring the Republican Party together.

00:08:37.820 Because that's what we've got to do.

00:08:38.900 We can't do it by going after each other.

00:08:41.540 We can't do it by fighting.

00:08:43.280 We've got to come together as one and get this country back together.

00:08:46.640 I love America.

00:08:47.440 I love this country because I've gotten to America's dream.

00:08:51.040 And it can only happen here in America.

00:08:52.940 And by going around the state of Georgia, that's what the people are saying.

00:08:56.720 And I'm like, guys, the people want this here.

00:08:58.720 They want public safety.

00:09:00.220 They want the same thing that most people want.

00:09:02.680 But the only way we can get it is by coming together and not trying to divide each other.

00:09:07.320 Well, good for you.

00:09:09.540 And, again, I agree with you 100%.

00:09:12.060 And I'm so pleased to hear you speak of your own gratitude.

00:09:17.100 I think it's one of the characteristics that's missing in so many people, not just office

00:09:22.740 holders, but the voters themselves.

00:09:26.420 There just right now seems to be a lack of gratitude about the country that we live in,

00:09:31.660 about the people that we live in this country with.

00:09:34.980 It's so good to hear you express that.

00:09:38.340 And I just wish that all Americans would think about how fortunate, no matter how little

00:09:43.560 or how much they have, just how grateful we have to be for this opportunity to make

00:09:50.360 of ourselves whatever we can.

00:09:52.500 You know, my wife says something to me, and it has stood with me for a little bit.

00:09:57.920 And it really bothered me.

00:09:59.400 But I met a young man from Ukraine, and he was on one of my listening sessions.

00:10:03.600 And he's now become a United States citizen.

00:10:05.560 But what's wild about it is he was arrested in his country for being a Christian. 0.67

00:10:10.360 And I think the State Department got here and his family over here.

00:10:13.160 And he's a chaplain for the police department.

00:10:16.000 Well, what's interesting, he said, you know, in my country, I would have to pay someone to

00:10:20.420 go to college.

00:10:21.780 And he said, I have to bribe someone.

00:10:24.340 He said, I was shocked that I can go to college here and I got an engineering degree.

00:10:27.720 And he also said, he said, you know, in my country, he said, you know, the government

00:10:32.940 can go into the school and use different kind of, use our kids for test projects, meaning

00:10:39.140 they can give them the vaccine shots for test projects and testing on our kids without the

00:10:43.580 parents' consent.

00:10:45.360 And by my wife telling me, Hirsch, you got to educate people.

00:10:48.360 And I said, guys, people are looking at the grass being green on the other side.

00:10:52.140 And I'm here to tell you, it's not.

00:10:53.860 I'm not here to tell you that I'm trying to win this seat, just win this seat.

00:10:57.260 I don't need to feather my cap.

00:10:58.460 I'm trying to win this seat because I want everyone to know this is the greatest country

00:11:02.720 in the world.

00:11:03.200 And you can only get those dreams here in America.

00:11:05.620 It can't happen anywhere else.

00:11:07.380 And I'm not putting any other country down because I really don't care about that.

00:11:10.540 I'm running for the Senate in Georgia and I'm running for the Senate to represent the

00:11:14.520 United States of America.

00:11:16.200 Would I be compassionate with other countries?

00:11:18.340 Yes, I will.

00:11:19.380 But the first thing is first is the state of Georgia and the United States of America.

00:11:24.280 Absolutely.

00:11:25.820 Absolutely.

00:11:26.560 And it's great to hear a candidate, a candidate particularly for the U.S.

00:11:31.080 Senate, say that. 0.97

00:11:32.980 Herschel, I want to ask you, you mentioned your poll numbers.

00:11:36.380 I mean, I've seen some strong poll numbers going into a primary.

00:11:39.900 You may be setting some sort of records there, too.

00:11:43.260 You look like you are the runaway winner of the nomination.

00:11:51.560 What do you think?

00:11:52.880 Well, you know, the poll numbers are looking great.

00:11:55.460 And that's what I say to my opponent is, guys, I want to bring you guys.

00:11:58.560 I want us to come together.

00:11:59.860 I want us to go in and work together to win this seat.

00:12:03.280 You know, there's no doubt the people are speaking.

00:12:05.900 And it's like, guys, why don't we listen to them?

00:12:08.040 Let's listen to the people.

00:12:09.120 Let's all come together and get ways that we can get this done.

00:12:12.700 Because I think the people of Georgia know I can win this seat.

00:12:15.560 I think the country, from my fundraiser, know I can win this seat.

00:12:20.020 And I said, guys, let's win this seat.

00:12:21.720 It is so, so important that we take Georgia back.

00:12:25.280 Georgia is not a blue state.

00:12:26.780 Georgia is a red state.

00:12:27.820 And what's strange about it is I'm going to continue to fight.

00:12:31.600 It doesn't matter what they do, what they say.

00:12:33.360 I'm going to continue to fight.

00:12:35.680 Well, and I have no doubt of it.

00:12:38.120 And I don't think anyone who's followed you over the course of your life has any doubt about it.

00:12:42.260 And you're going to have quite a fight with the nomination and going into the general against Senator Warnock.

00:12:50.340 You know, he says he won't renounce Marxism or socialism.

00:12:57.180 What is your reaction to his statement about that?

00:13:01.740 Well, I'm totally shocked.

00:13:03.060 First of all, I'm shocked that he's a pastor.

00:13:05.100 You know, he's a pastor in Martin Luther King's church.

00:13:07.520 Right.

00:13:08.140 Who believes that, you know, what Martin Luther King thought about some of the things he seemed to be going against.

00:13:13.600 You know, one of the first things that shocked me is his way of saying that, you know, he believes in abortion.

00:13:18.660 And he talks about there's no room for a doctor, a mother, and the government in the hospital.

00:13:27.160 But what about the unborn child?

00:13:29.440 What about the unborn child?

00:13:30.700 And you are a Christian.

00:13:31.980 And in the Bible, I told someone, I said, do anyone want to think about the Ten Commandments anymore?

00:13:36.640 Thou shalt not kill.

00:13:38.560 And you never know who is being born.

00:13:40.980 And, you know, every life is important.

00:13:43.360 Or let's go back to the Ten Commandments.

00:13:45.560 And, you know, every man should be treated fairly.

00:13:47.820 That's what it talks about in the Bible.

00:13:49.500 You know, we cannot continue to do that.

00:13:51.320 And the things this senator Warnock voted for, now he's got a record.

00:13:56.620 He's got a record that he's going along with all these terrible things.

00:13:59.600 You look at inflation.

00:14:00.680 You look at the crime rate that's picked up.

00:14:02.840 You look at kids not going to school.

00:14:05.080 The supply line.

00:14:06.400 You know, you look at all these things.

00:14:07.860 Well, that's his record.

00:14:09.100 He's got to stand behind that.

00:14:11.040 And, you know, and right now, that's happening.

00:14:13.940 You know, I own a business.

00:14:15.380 I know how to run a business.

00:14:16.860 I've done well at running my business that I created from the ground up.

00:14:21.060 You know, and I've traveled all over the world.

00:14:22.940 You know, I've traveled during track and field, during the Olympics.

00:14:25.560 You know, I've been on the Olympic team.

00:14:26.740 And I said, I understand certain things that people don't realize I understand.

00:14:30.220 I'm not just an athlete.

00:14:31.600 I've been very blessed to get a lot of it more experience under my belt.

00:14:36.240 You know, and you started pretty early.

00:14:39.440 You know, a lot of people don't realize you were valedictorian of your class in high school, too.

00:14:44.920 Well, I studied.

00:14:46.180 I studied.

00:14:47.120 I had to study.

00:14:48.060 And that's why I want every American kid to have the right to have a good education, to have a good education, because that's what our Constitution gives you the right to have.

00:14:56.540 And, you know, one of the things, Louie, and I don't want to go off subject, but I'm tired of hearing how they continue to put the African-American people down.

00:15:03.840 And that's what I was going to say.

00:15:04.680 My wife wanted me to educate people.

00:15:06.840 But we have our leaders, the president of the United States, saying, if you don't agree with me, you're a racist.

00:15:12.960 We have our leaders talking about racism.

00:15:14.800 You have our leaders.

00:15:15.580 You have our leaders voting to give people crack pipes.

00:15:19.040 You know, where are we coming to in what they're saying and giving you a crack pipe? 0.99

00:15:23.720 That black people smoke crack. 1.00

00:15:25.180 All black people don't smoke crack. 1.00

00:15:26.640 I don't even know what crack is. 0.98

00:15:27.740 I've never seen it.

00:15:28.760 But the thing is, you have our leaders saying that. 1.00

00:15:30.620 You have our leaders saying you're stupid because you don't know how to get an ID. 1.00

00:15:33.500 They're talking about black people. 1.00

00:15:35.420 And it's like, guys, I want to educate you and let you know that's what our leaders are calling us.

00:15:40.260 Well, I do know how to get an ID.

00:15:41.840 And one of the things I want to give a shout out to the people out there, 2% of people are African-American don't have an ID.

00:15:48.380 Let's be honest.

00:15:48.940 And those that don't have an ID, instead of us being proactive, why don't we be proactive rather than reactive?

00:15:54.720 If you don't have an ID right now and you want an ID to vote, come to and I will help you to get an ID because I want to better your life.

00:16:03.120 I don't want to continue to put you down.

00:16:04.780 I give you a crack pipe rather than putting you in a rehab facility to make your life better.

00:16:09.540 I don't want to do that.

00:16:10.340 I want to make your life better by helping you to get an ID so you can vote legally.

00:16:14.720 I want to help you to get an ID so you can have a bank account, so you can get on an airplane, you can get a job.

00:16:19.900 That's the reason I want to give you an ID.

00:16:21.520 I don't want to keep holding you down.

00:16:23.060 I want to help you to stand up.

00:16:25.040 You know, you're a smart man, Mr. Walker.

00:16:29.920 That's the smartest idea I've heard from a candidate, either party, on the issue of voter ID.

00:16:36.920 Because, you know, I've always said to myself, generally, well, sometimes I share it with the public, but I've always said it is really, it's racism by condescension.

00:16:48.060 It is the tyranny of low expectations.

00:16:53.440 And I have never understood why the African-American community leaders would put up with that for one doggone second. 0.92

00:17:02.840 And I just want to commend you for your offer.

00:17:07.200 Well, let me say something you said that we may need to take back a little bit.

00:17:11.060 And you said the African-American leaders.

00:17:13.400 Well, who voted them as the African-American leaders?

00:17:15.940 Because the leader would stand up and say, no more. 1.00

00:17:18.860 They're not stupid. 1.00

00:17:19.820 We're not stupid. 0.99

00:17:20.780 And we'll start fighting to help them get a job.

00:17:23.680 You know, what happened with the All-Star Game being moved from Atlanta?

00:17:27.300 Guys, who did that hurt?

00:17:28.340 That hurt their small businesses.

00:17:30.080 Well, then they walk it back and say, oh, no, no, no, we didn't do that.

00:17:33.520 Yeah, everything that is happening in this country right now is hurting people that look like me.

00:17:39.040 They're hurting the low-income people.

00:17:40.880 They're hurting people that look like me.

00:17:42.220 And I'm like, guys, wake up and put me in Washington.

00:17:45.760 Go to teamhershel.com.

00:17:47.580 Put me in Washington because I will fight and I'll continue to kick the can down the road, staying on the same thing, but trying to get something finished.

00:17:54.180 Well, I got to say, Herschel, you got my vote.

00:17:59.380 I wish I could vote in Georgia.

00:18:01.560 I have to tell you, I'm so impressed with your idea on voter ID.

00:18:08.360 I can't even express it.

00:18:10.620 But I will make sure that everybody hears what you've proposed and what you've offered because I think it's very, very important to all of us.

00:18:19.520 Let me just sum this up.

00:18:22.940 The Democratic Party has moved in a direction I couldn't even imagine.

00:18:28.480 I know Warnock is reputedly a socialist, but I did not know that Joe Biden was a Marxist, an authoritarian.

00:18:39.400 I mean, this party looks like I can't even describe what they are.

00:18:43.540 I grew up in the ages of Scoop Jackson where he was a moderate Democrat.

00:18:47.920 There is no such thing, as far as I can see, in the Democratic Party any longer.

00:18:53.080 Your thoughts on that?

00:18:55.160 Well, you're 100% correct.

00:18:56.900 We've become a situation where we have, if you're a Democrat, you're a Republican, you can't get along.

00:19:02.780 You've got to fight.

00:19:03.600 You're either this way or that way.

00:19:05.220 And because of the cancel culture that we have right now, it's more on the Democratic side.

00:19:09.600 So you don't even hear the opposing opponent.

00:19:11.980 You don't even hear what they've got to say.

00:19:13.600 And I said, that is not great for this country.

00:19:15.760 This country was built on a foundation of the United States Constitution, which is the greatest, the second greatest thing written since the Bible.

00:19:23.520 And I wish that our elected official would read it because they read it.

00:19:27.420 They can see if they stand behind that.

00:19:29.740 We can solve a lot of these problems.

00:19:31.880 But yet we've become so politicized that now I don't care what the Democrats agree on.

00:19:37.400 I'm going to agree with it, even though it may be terrible for the United States of America.

00:19:41.240 It may be terrible for the state of Georgia.

00:19:42.760 Well, you cannot do that when you say that you're a leader and you're elected by the people.

00:19:48.820 You don't represent yourself.

00:19:50.280 You're elected by the people to do what is right.

00:19:53.200 And I said, that's the reason I'm going to Washington is to do what is right, not to just get along to get along.

00:19:58.200 Like if I disagree with something that I think is going to hurt the Georgians or it's going to hurt this country, I'm going to really look into it and just say, no, I don't think that is great for what we need to be doing.

00:20:08.680 Democratic policies, Biden policies, are they hurting Georgia right now?

00:20:15.080 Oh, the Democrat policies are killing Georgia right now. 0.87

00:20:17.880 You know, you look at the crime rate and, you know, people get sad when I say this, but it's the truth.

00:20:22.420 And I tell people to look at, look at that.

00:20:24.740 Most Democratic cities that's ran now by Democratic leaders, crime is picked up.

00:20:30.700 You know what's so funny?

00:20:31.540 Crime is picked up.

00:20:32.420 There's no food on the shelf.

00:20:33.640 And look at, we gave up our, we're not energy independent anymore.

00:20:38.200 We're not energy independent no more.

00:20:39.820 We're now dependent on people that don't like us to supply us with energy, to supply us with gas.

00:20:46.700 You know, and I said, guys, we cannot live like that.

00:20:49.320 Our inflation, you know, I know how you don't spend what you don't have.

00:20:53.560 I know that you can't spend what you don't have.

00:20:55.620 Well, that's what we're doing.

00:20:56.600 We're spending it on these social issues.

00:20:58.820 Look at this infrastructure bill.

00:21:00.320 You know, they talked about infrastructure for a little money at the top of it.

00:21:04.040 But at the bottom of that bill, they talked about trees.

00:21:06.780 They talked about climate change.

00:21:08.980 They talked about things that has nothing to do with the infrastructure, things that if people stop and look at it, we have some of the cleanest air, cleanest water of any country out there.

00:21:18.940 So, guys, we need to look at this and take note of it that we can't continue to spend money we don't have.

00:21:24.620 And I said, you go to the Olympics, one of the most proudest moments of my life.

00:21:29.420 Yet we had Speaker Ms. Pelosi warning our athletes not to talk against this regime in China.

00:21:39.060 And I stopped for a moment and I said, it is so amazing that you warned our athletes right before the opening ceremony.

00:21:46.340 Why did you do that?

00:21:47.900 You know, you're not there.

00:21:49.420 Are you putting them in harm?

00:21:51.060 Because here in America, we have the right to speak out whatever we want to do.

00:21:55.440 It was amazing.

00:21:56.280 You didn't tell them not to speak out against the American flag.

00:21:59.420 You're okay with that.

00:22:00.780 You're okay with it.

00:22:01.660 I guarantee you China would laugh at it, too, if some of our athletes decided we don't want to stand for the American flag.

00:22:07.020 You're okay with that.

00:22:08.200 But you tell them don't speak out against China, which brought this pandemic to the United States of America and to so many other countries in this world. 0.94

00:22:15.960 So why did we award a country for bad habits?

00:22:20.940 We awarded them the Olympics.

00:22:22.440 We changed the All-Star game from Atlanta to Colorado, who got the worst, who's worse than Georgia in the Golden.

00:22:29.740 Well, we give the Olympics to China, which they have slave labor. 0.99

00:22:34.780 They have this pandemic, which has hurt the whole world.

00:22:38.420 And yet you didn't say nothing about that.

00:22:40.200 Yeah, they killed millions of people without ever being held accountable.

00:22:46.380 And, you know, shame on all of us in the world for not holding them accountable.

00:22:51.420 And for those 900,000 Americans who were killed, you're exactly right. 0.97

00:22:57.600 I'm curious about one conversation.

00:23:02.440 Apparently, Stacey Abrams said, Georgia is not a place where it can repeal school mask mandates.

00:23:09.680 Won't commit to repeal if she's governor. 0.96

00:23:13.520 What is so different about Georgia where people put up with a governor or a governor's gubernatorial candidate who says,

00:23:23.580 Georgia isn't a place where you do the smart thing for your children.

00:23:27.600 Uh, for your, for your, uh, for your citizens.

00:23:31.560 You know, what's so funny about that?

00:23:33.620 Did you see the picture of Stacey Abrams with these school kids where her mask is off? 0.64

00:23:38.680 That mask is on.

00:23:40.080 And then she walked the bike and said, Oh, I only took it off to take the picture.

00:23:43.800 Well, you didn't tell the kids to take theirs off to take the picture.

00:23:46.520 So it must not.

00:23:47.360 You've taken the opportunity to take the picture.

00:23:48.880 I really told the kids to do that as well.

00:23:50.820 And then I see a video of all the kids cheering when they were announced that, Oh,

00:23:56.300 you don't have to wear the mask anymore.

00:23:58.580 Hey, our kids have to go to school.

00:24:00.600 Do you know,

00:24:01.300 realize what kind of mental issue is doing to our kids that they're not able to socialize like they used to socialize or to do the things that they used to do with those masks off.

00:24:10.280 So when a governor speaks like that, like I said, early on, and so many ran cities ran by Democrat, you see the crime rate is up.

00:24:19.800 You see all the different things that have happened.

00:24:21.900 Inflation is going off the roof and it is just terrible.

00:24:25.280 And I'm not, I'm not telling people that, you know what you cannot, we cannot live like this.

00:24:30.840 It's time for us to move forward and get over this.

00:24:33.880 We got, you know, there's no doubt this pandemic is terrible.

00:24:36.520 This pandemic has hurt the world, but sooner or later we got to move on.

00:24:41.020 And I'm saying, yes, we got to be careful with this pandemic, but we have to move on.

00:24:45.200 If we want to get some kind of enormously in this country.

00:24:49.300 Herschel, I appreciate your time today.

00:24:52.360 It's great to talk with you.

00:24:54.100 I look forward to our next discussion as well.

00:24:57.060 And I always learn something.

00:24:59.380 Herschel, I appreciate it.

00:25:00.860 Thank you for being with us.

00:25:02.580 God bless you.

00:25:03.500 And God bless America.

00:25:04.820 Hey, thank you so much for having me on.

00:25:07.160 I always enjoyed it to talk with you.

00:25:09.040 You're a very intelligent man.

00:25:10.440 And I want to encourage people to continue.

00:25:12.280 Go to teamhersher.com, become a part of team Herschel.

00:25:16.080 And we're going to win this seat and get some normalcy back in this country.

00:25:20.160 All right.

00:25:20.600 Thank you very much, Herschel.

00:25:22.080 All the best.

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00:26:13.200 time, times of peril for our nation and our fellow citizens.

00:26:17.540 Almost 800 of those citizens have been charged on various counts in the January 6th rally and subsequent

00:26:26.540 riot on Capitol Hill.

00:26:28.500 The Marxist leftists and donors and the activists and radical dims all joining with corporate media

00:26:36.180 to call those charged that day insurrectionists.

00:26:39.160 We have with us today one of the attorneys representing a number of those charged, and he's helping several

00:26:45.020 others with representation back with us as attorney Joe McBride to bring us up to date on what has

00:26:51.040 been happening in particular with those who are still in custody till certainly still ensnared

00:26:57.260 in the legal system and the prison system.

00:27:00.340 Joe, it's great to have you here on the Great America Show again.

00:27:04.260 If you would give us an update on the number of folks you're representing who were arrested

00:27:11.320 or charged for activities that day, and the current number of people, as you understand

00:27:17.960 it, being held in custody either in the D.C. jail or elsewhere.

00:27:22.960 Thank you very much, Lou.

00:27:24.620 It is great to be here, and thanks as always for your continued work and support.

00:27:31.400 You're a great guy and a patriot, and I know that I speak on behalf of a lot of people when

00:27:36.560 I say that we're thankful for your work as well.

00:27:39.660 That's very kind.

00:27:40.260 Thank you.

00:27:41.520 So I represent five individuals charged with January 6 criminal charges.

00:27:48.840 They are criminal defendants in D.C.

00:27:51.860 District Court.

00:27:53.280 I am working now in concert also with John Kiannaga.

00:27:58.840 John Kiannaga is an attorney out of the D.C.

00:28:02.460 area.

00:28:03.580 He's also an ex-Army Ranger.

00:28:06.780 John has five defendants as well.

00:28:11.600 So together between John and I, we represent 10 people jointly.

00:28:17.300 I will second seat some of John's trials.

00:28:20.680 He will second seat some of mine.

00:28:22.560 We're sharing information in terms of a co-defense or joint defense agreement, which enables us

00:28:28.220 to work as a unit and pull together resources.

00:28:30.520 So that is a good thing.

00:28:33.900 In terms of people who are locked up, the number rises every day.

00:28:38.100 I think right now, approximately in the D.C.

00:28:41.960 Gulag, there is somewhere around 45 people.

00:28:45.860 And the number across the United States seems to be increasing.

00:28:50.800 And it's certainly increased since the last time that we spoke.

00:28:54.280 I know there's at least 15 or 20 more people who have been arrested and who are currently

00:28:59.580 awaiting various bail hearings.

00:29:02.600 So there's probably another 60 or so people, if not more, scattered across the country.

00:29:07.700 And that number, the expectation is that number will go up as well.

00:29:11.620 So, you know, it's interesting that that number is rising.

00:29:16.900 And I suppose we don't have any idea, really, at this point in aggregate, how many people

00:29:24.480 have had charges against them dropped.

00:29:26.460 I assume there would be a certain number of those as well.

00:29:30.500 Is there any way to get to that number?

00:29:34.200 Because we're looking at the number of people charged.

00:29:36.900 And surely some of them have had charges dropped because they were just sort of ensnared in

00:29:42.420 a vast net that day.

00:29:45.500 That's a great question, Lou.

00:29:47.480 And I think the best answer is this.

00:29:50.860 In terms of people who have actually been charged and then subsequently indicted, to my knowledge,

00:29:57.300 none of those charges have been dropped.

00:29:59.420 There are over 700 people who have been charged at this point.

00:30:03.140 And they haven't let go of a single case.

00:30:05.960 In terms of people who were looked at and investigated and then not charged, there is certainly

00:30:13.660 a fair number of those people.

00:30:16.960 I want to say it's probably somewhere between 50 and 100, if not more.

00:30:21.980 But those people are persons of interest to the defense bar, for the January 6th defense

00:30:29.560 bar, we'll call it.

00:30:30.460 For instance, there are several civilians or people who we don't know if they are civilians,

00:30:37.160 Ray Epps being one of them, who participated in the events of January 6th in a much more

00:30:45.500 meaningful way or nefarious way than any of my guys have.

00:30:49.860 But despite that reality, they have not been charged.

00:30:53.140 The FBI has cleared them to any wrongdoing.

00:30:56.320 And, you know, there's a big asterisk next to that and then parentheses on what the hell

00:31:00.540 is going on here.

00:31:02.000 So, you know, we have some serious questions about the people who have not been charged.

00:31:07.080 But with regard to those who have been charged and indicted, the government hasn't let go of

00:31:11.480 a single one.

00:31:12.220 Uh, and your clients, uh, are all of them, uh, out of, uh, out of jail right now?

00:31:20.380 Are they free on, uh, bond?

00:31:22.620 Uh, no, Lou, uh, Christopher Quaglin is currently incarcerated, uh, or detained, I should say,

00:31:29.640 in Northern Neck Regional Jail.

00:31:32.000 And, uh, Ryan Nichols is currently being held in what we're calling D.C. Guantanamo Bay or

00:31:38.900 the D.C. Gulag.

00:31:40.440 Uh, they have both been in jail for a very long time.

00:31:43.860 Ryan has been there for over a year at this point.

00:31:46.780 Oh, my God.

00:31:47.400 And Chris is, uh, is suffering badly in, in, in, uh, in jail as well.

00:31:52.980 The, the, the, the Northern Neck Regional Jail has, has not honored the fact that he's

00:31:57.800 had celiac disease.

00:31:59.180 And we spoke about this last time and he's, he's suffering a great deal.

00:32:03.040 And because these guys have been held under these egregious conditions for this long, because

00:32:08.420 Ryan has PTSD and, uh, is being psychologically abused.

00:32:12.680 And because Christopher has celiac disease and he's being denied proper medical treatment,

00:32:17.580 we are going to be filing habeas motions in both of their cases, which amongst other

00:32:24.220 things challenge the late, the legality of their detention in terms of time conditions

00:32:29.440 and duration, and also raise awareness to the fact that, Hey, you're allowed to detain

00:32:34.820 these guys and hold them for safekeeping, but you're not allowed to punish them.

00:32:38.560 We only punish convicted persons in this country.

00:32:40.580 And if you punish somebody pre-conviction, well, that's a violation of their rights of

00:32:45.480 due process.

00:32:46.120 And because of that, they should be released from jail.

00:32:48.900 So those are some of the things we're going to be talking about in these motions.

00:32:52.760 And what are their, the charges against them?

00:32:56.300 Well, most of these guys at this point who are in have been charged with, uh, assaulting

00:33:03.620 officers, uh, at one point or another and, or disrupting the, the governmental proceeding

00:33:09.860 and namely the certification vote that was taking place that day.

00:33:13.240 And then a bunch of in-between crimes, disorderly conduct, picketing, parading, you name it.

00:33:19.000 They, they, they throw the kitchen sink, but the real big ones are the disrupting the electoral

00:33:24.800 proceeding and the assault on officers.

00:33:28.300 Now, sometimes when people hear the assault on officers charged, they get really uncomfortable.

00:33:33.580 They're like, well, gee, if, you know, if these guys assaulted officers, maybe they should

00:33:38.400 be held.

00:33:39.680 And I understand that reaction.

00:33:43.200 Um, but, um, you know, we touched on this a little bit last time as well, but I'll say it

00:33:48.500 again, if, uh, if Tom, the, the, the, the, the, the postal guy and John, the school teacher

00:33:55.040 and Joe, the lawyer and Cindy, the doctor all showed up to January 6th at the Capitol that

00:34:01.900 day, having no prior contacts with the criminal justice system.

00:34:05.640 And then all of a sudden for the first time in their 50, 60 or 40 something years of life,

00:34:10.580 they're being charged with assaulting officers.

00:34:13.480 You have to ask yourself, why did that happen?

00:34:15.580 And the answer is clear is because in many situations, not in all situations, I'm not

00:34:21.100 saying all Capitol police or metropolitan police, but a significant number of them that

00:34:25.520 day attacked civilians.

00:34:27.940 The attacks were brutal.

00:34:29.020 They were unprovoked.

00:34:30.260 Um, and they often, uh, resulted in serious injury and then by instances all resulted in

00:34:36.420 death.

00:34:36.860 So these people stepped up in defense of those other people because what they were seeing

00:34:41.360 shocked them to the extent that they needed to involve themselves.

00:34:44.600 Do you have video evidence, uh, for your clients, uh, of their, of the event or incidents,

00:34:51.820 uh, incident that occurred, uh, uh, that they're charged with?

00:34:58.760 Uh, yes, we have, uh, we have video evidence of all of it.

00:35:03.040 So, um, yeah, there, there are, uh, there's serious video evidence.

00:35:08.000 So, so this could be adjudicated rather quickly if only, uh, you could get to trial and if you

00:35:15.020 could get them, uh, well, I would, you know, you're talking about habeas corpus, uh, it seems

00:35:21.920 outrageous that if you've got exculpatory evidence that is clear and forthright, or at least even

00:35:29.880 just mitigating, uh, it would seem like this is something that would be in the interest

00:35:34.380 of the judicial system, uh, the legal system, but the penal system for crying out loud to

00:35:41.240 move these people out of there. 0.68

00:35:42.740 And certainly in the name of justice, someone should have already handled this in the course

00:35:48.460 of the past year.

00:35:49.520 Am I, am I just simply wrong?

00:35:51.860 No, you're, you're, you're on the, you're on the right track and your, your, your instincts

00:35:55.940 are, are, are, are great.

00:35:57.260 Uh, the, this is the situation, uh, COVID-19 was used as a pretext to delay everything.

00:36:03.720 Um, and because COVID-19 was used as a pretext to delay everything, uh, the government was

00:36:10.560 able to drag their feet and drag its feet.

00:36:13.160 And in terms of turning over discovery, um, it turned it over incrementally and it's still

00:36:18.440 turning it over.

00:36:19.280 And then very recently they dumped a tremendous amount of information all on us at one time.

00:36:24.960 Now the government has had over a year to sit with this material, to monopolize it, to edit

00:36:30.900 it, to disseminate it to us in a way that serves them and not our clients.

00:36:35.520 And we have to, um, build, um, all of this from the ground up, search through it, parse

00:36:41.280 through it, see what's advantageous, what's disadvantageous, what's innocuous, so on and

00:36:45.580 so forth.

00:36:46.040 That takes time, but because the government is now saying, oh, we've turned over all the

00:36:51.300 information in this case, we're now ready for trial.

00:36:54.720 The judges are pushing us out to trial.

00:36:57.160 And many of us have said, Hey, listen, judge, wait a minute here.

00:37:00.180 Uh, we need some time to go through this information because you just dumped eight months worth of

00:37:05.280 information on us.

00:37:06.320 It is sad that, uh, Christopher Quaglin is inside and it is sad that Ryan Nichols is

00:37:12.320 inside and they shouldn't be, uh, but they are, but I have gotten each of those clients

00:37:17.600 to, to, to, to, to, to agree to the fact that we need to process this information in the

00:37:22.140 most intelligent way possible.

00:37:23.800 So please don't rush us.

00:37:25.580 Give us the time that we need and let us tell you when we're ready at this point that,

00:37:30.140 you know, in order for us to proceed to trial, because we need to process this information

00:37:33.580 in the right way.

00:37:34.340 The judges don't care.

00:37:36.680 They've just said, hire more people.

00:37:38.100 You're going to go to trial next month or in two months or whatever.

00:37:40.660 They don't care.

00:37:41.580 They haven't shown us an ounce of mercy.

00:37:44.100 And this is, this is tactical.

00:37:45.700 The government knew exactly what it was doing.

00:37:47.660 Delayed, delayed, delayed until the COVID restrictions were, were, were, were alleviated.

00:37:52.620 Dump all the information on them at one time, crush the defense guys under the information

00:37:57.160 because the judges are going to send them out to trial.

00:37:59.480 And that's exactly what's happening.

00:38:00.620 Do you, do you have unedited video that we could see on this broadcast?

00:38:06.780 Uh, uh, so, uh, the answer is, is, is, is yes.

00:38:12.240 Uh, and no.

00:38:13.760 So the way it works, Joe, you, with answers like that, you're going to make me think I'm

00:38:19.860 talking with a leading attorney.

00:38:21.320 The answer is, do I have the video in my possession?

00:38:26.360 The answer is yes.

00:38:27.700 Here, here, here's the issue.

00:38:29.640 Um, because the government knows that the video hurts them, the government has filed for

00:38:37.180 protective orders and all of the, what it has labeled as highly sensitive material.

00:38:44.200 So that has to do with closed captioned, uh, body cams, so on and so forth.

00:38:49.500 And because they've labeled it highly sensitive, they made it impossible for us to crowdsource

00:38:55.080 the investigation process, meaning that I could release 20 videos to the public and appeal

00:39:00.660 to the public and say, Hey, if you guys want to help with January 6th related stuff, investigate

00:39:05.200 these, look for these suspicious persons, help us parse through this video.

00:39:08.440 And we can get that done in a week, but, um, in order to prevent us from doing that and

00:39:13.440 prevent the media from seeing the truth, they have filed for these protective orders.

00:39:17.340 And every time I want to show somebody like you, Lou, a video, I have to get permission

00:39:22.300 from the court.

00:39:23.380 Um, and I have been successful in getting some of these things overturned and, and, and,

00:39:28.540 but anytime I want to show you that's anything new, I can't do it without the court's permission

00:39:32.660 and without tipping off the prosecution, which is, you know, it's ridiculous.

00:39:36.280 It's straightforwardly, what I wanted to do was to look at it and then be able to share

00:39:39.960 with the audience of this podcast, what I had seen, uh, and, uh, it, we're going to

00:39:47.160 be adding video as a component to this podcast very soon, but in the interim, uh, just to

00:39:53.860 describe it, uh, is important.

00:39:55.840 Uh, so I, I'm going to, uh, but anyway, so I understand exactly what you're saying.

00:40:01.220 I'm sure the audience does as well.

00:40:02.720 This is a very difficult situation.

00:40:04.580 It's an unfair situation, both to, uh, your clients, uh, to you and to all of us who, uh,

00:40:10.960 as Americans, we not only ask for justice, we demand justice and we're not getting it.

00:40:16.620 Uh, I happened, uh, you know, I, I talked with a number of the Congress people, congressmen

00:40:22.180 and women who have gone down to the DC jail.

00:40:24.940 What they report back to us is just, uh, harrowing, uh, the treatment of people.

00:40:30.100 It's resulted in the head of, uh, the prisons, uh, being replaced.

00:40:34.960 I'm not, I'm not sure about the quality of the people who replaced them.

00:40:38.400 Uh, we also know that they have a huge staff, uh, uh, shortage, uh, and it is a nightmare

00:40:45.400 what these people are going through.

00:40:47.480 Now, some of them may be guilty, but they're still American citizens have rights and should

00:40:51.320 be treated as Americans, uh, irrespective of their, uh, guilt or innocence.

00:40:57.940 But the innocent, my God, they should be out of there now.

00:41:02.600 Uh, it's, it's, it's true.

00:41:04.320 And under the meaning of the bail reform act, even if you are not quote unquote innocent,

00:41:09.780 right, you're still entitled to, the government has to prove each element of every crime charge

00:41:14.360 beyond a reasonable doubt in court in front of a jury of your peers by the rule book.

00:41:19.260 It's, uh, you know, they, they, they have a tall order that they have to accomplish to

00:41:23.400 prove somebody guilty of a crime in this country.

00:41:25.720 And that is a good thing.

00:41:27.580 Um, but unless you are an out and out of flight risk or an actual danger to society, you should

00:41:33.880 be able to fight these cases from the comfort of your home.

00:41:36.700 And they have taken that away, um, to, from these individuals and they are constitutionally

00:41:41.980 entitled to do that.

00:41:43.140 You know, let me ask you this, Joe, I'm sorry to interrupt, but, uh, it occurs to me what

00:41:50.020 percentage, uh, is best you can estimate.

00:41:53.320 I'm not going to ask you about your clients per se, but I'm of the people who have been

00:41:57.760 charged with, uh, serious offenses.

00:42:01.020 Um, what percent of them would you say have, uh, uh, uh, history, uh, a rap sheet, uh, a record,

00:42:10.260 uh, of, uh, previous offenses?

00:42:12.660 I'd say, uh, conservatively less than 2% and at the most, probably less than 10%.

00:42:22.700 Wow.

00:42:24.080 Yeah.

00:42:26.120 These guys, these people should not be in there.

00:42:28.160 There is, there is no question about it.

00:42:31.380 Um, they know that these people are not familiar with the criminal justice system and they are

00:42:37.720 betting that these guys are going to take pleas that are unfair to them in order to wrap this up,

00:42:43.200 uh, most expediently as possible because they simply don't want to be there, um, any, anymore,

00:42:48.880 but that, that's how the coverup happens and that's how justice is averted.

00:42:52.140 Um, and that, that's not what should be happening.

00:42:55.000 They, they shouldn't be leveraging the pretrial, pretrial detention and torturing these guys,

00:42:59.220 um, while, while they're there so that they'll take a bad plea deal. 0.94

00:43:02.980 It's ridiculous.

00:43:03.760 And, you know, when you have somebody like Ryan Nichols, who, um, is a, is a decorated veteran, 0.72

00:43:09.180 uh, honorably discharged from the Marine Corps, spends 75 to 80 days a year doing search and

00:43:15.220 rescue work, rescuing people from storms and tornadoes and floods, runs a business in Texas where

00:43:20.980 he employs second chancers.

00:43:23.260 These are people who are former addicts or former felons, um, and has two young kids at

00:43:27.900 home.

00:43:28.720 He, he shouldn't be there.

00:43:30.280 And not only is he there, they've taken away the ability for his family to see him and they've

00:43:35.540 taken away the ability in person and they've taken away the ability for him to even see

00:43:40.580 his family on a video call.

00:43:42.380 Every other section of the jail, all of the detainees can see their families on a regular

00:43:48.820 basis, either in person or via video conference, Ryan Nichols and Christopher Quaglin haven't

00:43:53.880 been able to see their family in over a year.

00:43:56.160 What is that about?

00:43:57.540 Why is it?

00:43:58.480 They're trying to break the blue.

00:44:00.780 They're trying to break them.

00:44:02.640 Uh, you know, this, this would be one thing of this jail.

00:44:05.840 We're in Tehran it's in Washington, DC, or it's in, uh, other places, uh, Virginia or

00:44:14.220 wherever.

00:44:15.260 But, uh, if this is what we've got going, uh, and I want to give you just pause here for

00:44:20.340 a moment.

00:44:21.100 And the last numbers I saw were from, uh, NPR on this 140 federal prosecutors working on

00:44:29.440 the investigation of these people, 725 people that had been arrested initially, 165 pleaded

00:44:36.480 guilty, most misdemeanors.

00:44:38.860 And by the way, uh, when Joe talked about interrupting the U S Congress or disrupting

00:44:44.380 it in business, that is a felony, by the way, it is an absolute felony.

00:44:49.720 Uh, and I'm sure that not a person among them knew understood that, uh, when they were

00:44:56.520 there, but 70 people have been sentenced only about 70.

00:45:00.840 You may be able to update that, uh, Joe, but, and 30 have received prison time and others

00:45:05.920 with probation.

00:45:07.100 Uh, this is, this is justice at a snail's pace that, as you said from the outset is that

00:45:15.600 incarceration time is punishment.

00:45:18.340 Uh, and they haven't been found guilty in any one of those cases of anything.

00:45:23.560 Uh, this is outrageous and I don't understand why the Republican party is not standing on

00:45:31.020 the throats, uh, of those, uh, who are in charge of the, of the, uh, penal system there

00:45:36.900 in DC, uh, are throughout the Bureau of Prisons demanding that they act like this is a constitutional

00:45:45.420 republic.

00:45:46.020 Well, they're not doing it because these people, um, are objectively, uh, the January

00:45:54.000 6th cohort, they're all, it's, it's the MAGA crowd, they're Trump supporters.

00:45:58.140 And you obviously, you have people on the left who hate president Trump, and then you

00:46:02.160 have a whole lot of people on the right who hate him, um, as well.

00:46:06.360 And the idea is that if you stick up for these people, you are somehow by extension sticking

00:46:10.960 up for president Trump as well, and they won't touch it with a hundred foot pole because they

00:46:16.500 want nothing.

00:46:17.360 Uh, their biggest fear, um, in the entire universe is, uh, is, is the return, uh, of president

00:46:24.700 Trump in 2024.

00:46:26.300 And nobody wants to be associated with that.

00:46:29.900 Well, you know what?

00:46:30.280 They shouldn't want to be associated with the democratic party either.

00:46:33.160 They shouldn't want to be associated, uh, with, uh, president Obama, president Biden,

00:46:38.100 uh, Kamala Harris, uh, Joe Biden is, uh, now president, but also was vice president, shouldn't

00:46:45.640 be one to be associated with the FBI, the justice department, because they are rank corrupted

00:46:51.700 agencies.

00:46:52.720 And there is no question about it.

00:46:54.800 They've spied on a president.

00:46:56.040 They've spied to stop a, uh, a Donald Trump candidacy.

00:47:00.600 Uh, and when he lost, it's clear that they spied on him and broke the law.

00:47:05.920 There is such a rancid rot in Washington, DC and what the democratic party has done.

00:47:13.980 Anyone who is proud of being a Democrat under those, those kinds of leaders.

00:47:19.180 Uh, I mean, we're talking about law firms.

00:47:21.080 We're talking about establishment law firms, uh, the, the whitest of the white shoe firms. 0.95

00:47:27.080 Uh, it's just ignorance. 0.84

00:47:28.900 Uh, it is arrogance.

00:47:30.220 It is, as I said, rank corruption in this country.

00:47:33.720 And we've all as difficult as it is, have got to understand what we're dealing with.

00:47:39.020 And what Joe is saying, uh, I think is the absolute truth.

00:47:42.760 Uh, we're dealing with, with politics, uh, that is perfectly willing to crush every one

00:47:49.960 of these people to get what they want ideologically.

00:47:52.720 And, uh, as partisans, it's outrageous.

00:47:56.740 It's just outrageous.

00:47:57.920 It is outrageous.

00:47:58.940 And a lot of these people are no longer loyal to our country.

00:48:01.720 They are, um, they're, they're loyal to this internationalist cohort.

00:48:07.180 It's this internationalist socialist fascism.

00:48:11.280 And they're trying to impose their way of life on us by any means necessary.

00:48:17.140 They're attacking, and they have been attacking for a very long time, all of our traditional

00:48:21.600 values.

00:48:22.860 Now they are jailing us.

00:48:25.060 And by the way, look at what's going on at, you know, the, in, in, in, in Canada, you

00:48:32.300 know, uh, Trudeau is, is a graduate of, of, of, of the Klaus Schwab Institute, the whole

00:48:37.920 great reset cohort of people over there.

00:48:40.680 And what you can't protest in the street, a bunch of truckers dancing to techno music in

00:48:47.060 the street.

00:48:47.460 And now they are debanking everybody and they're declaring martial law over there.

00:48:52.660 They're suspending civil liberties in the name of what?

00:48:55.960 It's horrific to see what we're witnessing in Canada.

00:48:59.400 That country is no longer a free country.

00:49:01.680 And those truckers are being brave.

00:49:03.780 They're, they're standing tall.

00:49:05.620 Uh, but also when Joe Biden, uh, sends a message to Justin Trudeau, be tough, uh, and

00:49:13.220 clean up that bridge and let commerce flow between our countries.

00:49:17.320 I, you know, he doesn't care one, one damn about those truckers or anything else.

00:49:23.640 He just wants to move, uh, the wares of the chamber of commerce and the business round 0.97

00:49:28.860 table and wall street, uh, and the, and the citizens be damned. 0.69

00:49:32.920 What do you think? 0.94

00:49:33.740 I, I, I agree with you.

00:49:35.700 I, I, and right now what's happening in Canada, this is, this is their January 6th moment.

00:49:41.360 You know, January 6th here was a, was a protest against, you know, um, against the illegitimacy

00:49:47.400 of, of, of, of the Biden presidency.

00:49:49.900 And it was also a protest against the completely foreseeable danger that a Biden presidency would

00:49:56.620 present to the world, such as starting world war three, such as going to fight over a border

00:50:02.860 in a faraway land.

00:50:04.480 When we, when, when, when our, our own border is being invaded at this very minute, but yet

00:50:10.540 we want to go over and draw a black and white, white line in between Ukraine and Russia.

00:50:15.440 That makes no sense.

00:50:17.780 It makes no sense whatsoever.

00:50:19.840 Unless your objective is to destabilize the entire world and its economy and make things

00:50:26.900 so difficult for everybody that they're going to force a change that none of us want anything

00:50:31.440 to do with a change that is not consistent with our way of life.

00:50:35.120 And with our way of being, um, I have said this to everyone.

00:50:39.180 I've been shouting this to the mountain, mountain tops for a long time.

00:50:43.060 And it's, you know, to paraphrase what I've been saying, it's, it sounds something like

00:50:47.020 this, uh, people of God.

00:50:49.740 And now is the time to prepare for what's coming because what's coming is not good.

00:50:54.580 It's also the time to ask for forgiveness of sins for yourself, for those who you love

00:51:00.180 and for the sins of the United States of America to beg God for mercy, because we have turned

00:51:05.720 our back on him, uh, for far too long.

00:51:09.340 And if you read, uh, history, the rise and fall of empires and or biblical history alongside

00:51:15.200 of it, you will see that there comes a breaking point where, um, enough is enough and people

00:51:21.260 are turned over to their own devices.

00:51:23.720 And it's like, well, if you really want to see what the world is like when men are in 1.00

00:51:27.160 charge, well, here you go.

00:51:28.700 It's never a good thing.

00:51:30.740 I don't think that it's a foregone conclusion for our country.

00:51:33.600 I still think that there's hope, but I do believe in the very deepest core of my soul

00:51:39.080 that, um, absent God's direct intervention and absent a spirit of repentance in this country,

00:51:46.400 that, that we may very well be in a situation that can't be fixed.

00:51:50.500 Yeah, it's, uh, it, it is a, a stark statement and one that I think should, should awaken a

00:51:59.180 lot of people.

00:51:59.860 Uh, but also we are right now as a country, we are faced with greater dangers from within

00:52:07.520 than we have ever faced from without.

00:52:10.220 And as we look North to Canada, we see what, uh, authoritarian government looks like.

00:52:16.060 We are witnessing repression.

00:52:18.480 And unfortunately we look to our own nation's capital to see the repression, uh, and the

00:52:24.740 authoritarianism of the radical Dems, the left in this country, the Marxists who share both

00:52:31.560 Marxism and a one world global order, uh, with the left all around the world, the one worlders.

00:52:40.540 It is not a pretty world they have in mind for the rest of us, Joe, I'm going to give

00:52:45.860 you the last word here, uh, as we always do on this broadcast, uh, your last word, your

00:52:52.280 concluding thoughts as we wrap up here today.

00:52:54.920 And I thank you so much for bringing us up to date.

00:52:58.660 Well, it's, uh, it's, it's always an honor to be with you.

00:53:01.460 And thanks again for all the hard work that you do to those of you who are listening and

00:53:06.980 who care about, um, what is going on.

00:53:09.520 Um, I ask you to, to please, to pray and to, uh, separate yourself from social media, separate

00:53:17.840 yourself from, from your cell phones.

00:53:19.900 If everybody in our country for, for one or two days, just turned our phones off and threw

00:53:25.660 them in the jaw, in the drawer, closed our laptops, walked away from our electronics, the

00:53:30.560 powers that be, who are controlling this situation would lose all control in a matter of hours.

00:53:36.200 Um, they are, we're being controlled by our devices because we have an addiction to our,

00:53:40.880 to our, our electronic devices.

00:53:42.720 This is what they are using to acquire information about accused persons.

00:53:47.380 This is what they are using to require COVID based passports.

00:53:51.400 This is how they have access to our life.

00:53:54.860 So I would encourage you to set aside time every day to separate yourselves from those devices

00:54:00.200 to dig into your faith based beliefs, to spend time with your family and to think about what

00:54:06.720 you want for the future for yourself and not what that phone tells you that you should

00:54:11.280 buy next week on Amazon or whatever it is.

00:54:13.860 Uh, do not give up on America, um, have faith, uh, and believe, and, uh, please keep us in your

00:54:21.320 prayers.

00:54:21.740 God bless you all.

00:54:22.780 And thank you very much.

00:54:24.500 Joe first, amen.

00:54:26.340 And thank you very much for being with us here today.

00:54:28.720 We appreciate you sharing your thoughts and understanding of what is happening in this, uh,

00:54:33.800 this nation's Capitol.

00:54:35.160 It is a national disgrace.

00:54:37.280 We thank you for everything you're doing to counteract it.

00:54:40.900 And tomorrow, please join us when our special guests will be Mike Lindell.

00:54:44.620 We'll be talking with Mike about his efforts to set the record straight on the presidential

00:54:49.460 election of 2020 and Mike's efforts to make certain that this year in these important

00:54:55.300 midterm elections and 2024, we won't see these elections rigged in any way.

00:55:02.980 Lindell has a multimillion dollar strategy as well.

00:55:06.060 He's rolling out at least in part this week.

00:55:08.560 You don't want to miss the founder and CEO of my pillow, Mike Lindell.

00:55:13.040 He's our guest here tomorrow.

00:55:14.940 Please be with us.

00:55:16.440 We'll have some fun as well.

00:55:17.880 I guarantee it.

00:55:19.220 Thanks for being with us.

00:55:20.540 God bless you.

00:55:21.940 And God bless America.

00:55:23.640 Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.

00:55:26.820 Stay in the fight.

00:55:27.760 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - March 07, 2022

JAN 6 PROTEST OF ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENCY AND BIDEN DANGER TO THE WORLD

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