John Joins Professor Nick Giordano on The P.A.S Report
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In this episode of The Great America Show, host John Fawcett sits down with Nick Giordano, a professor of political science, to discuss everything from tariffs to bringing jobs back to America, to the indoctrination of our schools, and how this country moves forward.
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Hey, everybody. John Fawcett here. I recently sat down with a good friend of mine, Professor
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Nicholas Giordano. He does a great podcast. It's called the PAS Report. He's a professor
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of political science. He's been speaking out for years about the indoctrination of our
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students and everything that's wrong with the political realm, taking over schools and
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universities across this country. I recently, like I said, I recently sat down with him
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to do his podcast, the PAS Report. We take up everything from tariffs to President Trump
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bringing jobs back to America, to the indoctrination of our schools and how this country moves forward.
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It was a great interview, which is why in just a moment, we're going to be rolling it for
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you so you guys can take a listen to what he and I discussed for a little bit over a half
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hour. I think it's a very important conversation, like I said, which is why I want you guys all
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to take a listen and give us your feedback on what you think about the interview. Here it is.
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I have a great guest coming on today. I have a friend, John Fawcett, host of The Great America
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Show. I've known John for several years. He knows politics. He understands what's going on. John,
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Nick, thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it. I know politics as much as I want to. I wish I
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didn't know as much. I'd probably be a lot happier, Nick, to be honest with you, if I was a gardener
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somewhere relaxing. I tell my students that you got like 40 percent of the students that are
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conservative or Republican, 40 percent that are Democrat or liberal or progressive, and then 20
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percent that have no idea what's going on out there. But they're the happiest ones out of everyone.
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That's the amazing part, because when you pay attention to politics, it will drive you nuts.
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You'll end up like me with no hair. Now, Trump's been in office about a month and a half,
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almost two months now. What are your thoughts so far on the lightning pace at which he's going at?
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First of all, I got to address your 20 percent, because it's so true. You know, I still meet people
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today who I'll meet a girl out at a bar somewhere. In full transparency, I'm single, so I'm allowed to
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do that. So ladies, keep that in mind. So I'll go out to a bar and we'll talk about, do you like
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Trump? That's always my first question, because then that dictates where you're going to go.
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You hate Trump. The people don't like Trump, Nick. They hate him so much. So there's like no point
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of wasting your time. And the amount of people you have are just like, I don't care. And I'm like,
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how do you not care? It's weird. It's such a polarized society right now, polarized civilization
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that it's insane. Now, to your point about President Trump moving at a lightning speed,
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Nick, I couldn't have imagined he was going to move like this. Day one, we had ICE in Chicago,
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in New York, raiding out these places. Tom Holman's been moving. Tom's been planning for
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this job for the last four plus years on how he's going to navigate.
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I think Tom has a war room in his basement, right? He's all over the place like for four years.
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Yeah. So President Trump, now he's entering this tariff fight. And you know what? It's not good.
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It's not good for us who have 401ks in stock markets. But the way I look at it and everyone I
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speak to with a brain with a triple digit IQ, Nick, it's a long war. It's a long war that
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was a long time in the coming. That had to be had. We have a ballooning debt, Nick,
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that has not stopped. I mean, we're going to blow through $40 trillion here in just a few years.
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At what point does it stop? What do you do to finally get this thing to stop? So he's moving
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at lightning speeds on absolutely everything. All his nominees getting through. I would like to see
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some people work a little harder. I'm not saying Pam Bondi, but you know, there are some people I
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think who have to start doing a better job. And the way I look at this administration, Nick,
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you either have to put out or get out because we don't have time. It's only four years to make
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this country great again. And if you're not on board from day one, if everything you do isn't
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America first, make America great again. You got to go. I'm sorry.
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Well, it's interesting that you say that. I mean, first of all, I share the whole Pam Bondi thing. I mean,
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when she was first announced, one of the things that worried me is that you need a pitbull as an
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attorney general. You need someone that's going to go in there and show the bureaucracy who's boss.
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Otherwise, the bureaucrats will eat you up and they'll spit you out. They'll work to undermine
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you from day one. And I haven't seen the strength from her to really take on the bureaucracy in the
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way it needs to be taken on. Luckily, over at the FBI, you have Kash Patel, Dan Bajino in there.
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So that's a different story. But I want to talk about tariffs for a minute, because I
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think that's an important story. I just released an episode talking about how long will Americans
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stay with Trump, right? I mean, Americans are short term thinkers. And I'm not trying to insult
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the American people. It's just the nature of the beast right now. And the second that Americans
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start to feel a little bit of pain, are they going to bail on him and say, you know what,
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it's too much. It's not worth it. Yeah. You know, I just saw polling out this morning from Mark
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Mitchell and from Rasmussen. And Trump's numbers, Nick, this is like defies absolutely everything in
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politics that President Trump has done, whether it be surviving the assassination attempts,
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coming back to do essentially what's a third term after 2020. He's defied at all odds. His poll
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numbers continue to go through the roof. Now, you had mentioned the lightning speed. As soon as he
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started doing the deportations, I figure, you know, Americans are going to start to feel bad.
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They're going to start feeling a little buyer's remorse. And his poll numbers are going to go
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down. They've only went up as he's continued to do, as I use mass deportations, because it seems to
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be the biggest thing the administration has done so far. I don't think they're going to give up on
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Trump. And it's the reason being what I said before. It's a long war. And if President Trump
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plays... Is it really a long war? You know, I was talking to a colleague today about the, you know,
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1920s and the tariffs that war that took place then. But the world is dramatically different.
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I mean, the United States is the dominant power. We've been losing power and influence for years
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since 2005. There's no doubt about that. But let's be honest. In the 1920s, how many foreign
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countries relied on the United States? Today, most of them do. And so can Canada really wait out the
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United States or Mexico or any other country? Or do they kind of need the United States and they're
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going to have to capitulate kind of soon? Absolutely. That's the truth of the matter,
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isn't it? Our number one export is crude petroleum. So that's fine. If you don't want to buy
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crude petroleum from us, and the next biggest export of ours is refined petroleum. So that's
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the stuff you're putting in your cars, you're putting in your airplanes. So that's fine. You want
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to play tough guy, you want to play gangster, that's fine. And you know what a lot of people,
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and this is what I wish the Trump administration would start to let out to the American people,
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and explain it a little bit better, because I think it'll tune the American people's minds a
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little bit differently. This is a war because of what they've done to us. Now, the only reason
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Donald Trump gets a bad rap for it is because he does it out on the public stage. I attribute it to
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like silent torture from Canada and from these other countries. They tariff us on all these goods
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that we bring in, that we bring into this country. It's only right, Nick, nothing in life is absolutely
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free. So to answer your question, yes, they have no choice. I read this morning, Australia and the
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United Kingdom will not do anything in retaliation to President Trump's retaliatory tariffs. And it's
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a smart thing to do. It's reciprocal tariffs. Now on Canada and Mexico, it's a little bit different
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because of the immigration problem we have, because of the drug problem we have. That's a fight that
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needs to be had, that needs to be had. 100,000 people is far too many. And 100,000, by the way,
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is a complete understatement, because that 100,000 only accounts for people who are autopsied,
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who we know what they died from. Now you figure a family member who has someone died,
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who they know he overdosed or she overdosed. They don't do an autopsy because they've already
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dealt with enough pain in their lives. So we don't know how they died. They just went down
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or whatever natural call. I don't know what they put it down as, but it's probably two or three
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times the number. It's the same thing with the illegal immigration number. So it's a fight that
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needs to be had. Canada wants to play tough guy. Mexico wants to play tough guy. It's going to be
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very short lived. As for those countries, I think I give it probably a month max. You look at what
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Ford did with the electric, the electric tariff. President Trump came back and said,
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that's fine. 50% tariff on all steel. You want to play good ball? And then within two hours,
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he called buff. One more thing I want to hit on. We haven't run a Trade Plus, Nick, in this country
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since 1975. What does that mean? That means every single year, exports exceed imports. So vice versa.
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So in other words, we cannot make our own things here. We rely on everyone else to bring in,
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to bring in. That needs to change, whether it be automobile parts. There's some things I understand
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we have to offshore. Textiles, I understand, will never come back to America. That's fine.
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But let's look at a place in South America where we can start making textiles instead of going to
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Thailand and Taiwan and China. First of all, shipping routes will be far easier to get to
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from South America and from Mexico than it is right now from China. And we'll be doing a good deed
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because I believe if we can help Mexico build up their country, if we can help Panama build up their
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country, and all these countries down south, El Salvador, if we can help them build up their own
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countries, Nick, they're going to want to stay there with their families. They're going to want
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to stay home with their families and make money in their own country. The truth of the matter is
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these Mexican folks and all these people come here, they don't want to come to America. They
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come because they need to, because they need jobs. Yeah. And I think you just, you brought up
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something important and you, you've been in the media a long time. So you understand the importance
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of messaging and narratives. Do you think that Trump administration is missing out on an
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opportunity, not explaining how, why is it fair all these countries get to tariff American products,
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but yet we're not allowed to introduce tariffs on their products? Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
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And as I said, I think the messaging is off. If he came out and whether he or Howard Lutnick,
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I don't think it should be Elon Musk. He's dealing with his own problems right now. And I love the man
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to death. But if one of these guys came out and explained and broke down on a chart, something very
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simple. This is what X charges us. This is what Y charges us. This is what we're charging them.
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The American people know nothing in life is free. Okay. If you could explain it to the faction of
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that, I think they'll understand a lot better because they're pretty on board right now. I spoke
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to a good friend this morning who was a lifelong Democrat, who's now a Republican. And he says,
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you know what, if this is going to bring inflation down, if this is going to bring the prices of
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housing down and all that stuff, let it be done. Let it be done. And you know what,
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Wall Street, I hate to see it, but you know what, they ruined America, Wall Street. So now it's
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their time to take a hit. It's time for Main Street America to start making some money. And
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that's those factory workers out in Dearborn, Michigan, those factory workers out in Ohio.
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It's time for the American human being, that blue collar worker to bring home a livable salary to live
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on. And you know what, Wall Street can wait a little while. Well, let's look at Wall Street. So you do
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have Elon Musk living the, you know, the Doge, leading the Doge effort to find the waste,
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fraud, and abuse within government. We know approximately 3,500 government contracts have
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already been canceled out. We know that there's many more that will be canceled out. And this is
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something that I applaud. I've been calling for the downsizing of government for a long time. I've
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been calling out the way, I was Doge before there was a Doge in my classroom. And I've been calling
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out the waste, fraud, and abuse. But when we look at Wall Street, the number of companies that just
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live off the government largesse, right? They just live and move off the federal system. Isn't that
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going to hurt corporate earnings to a certain degree? It absolutely is. And you know what,
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Nick, that's something that nobody's talking about. I spoke about it the other day on my show,
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and you're the only other person I've heard mention it. When you're taking, Nick, when you're
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cutting a trillion dollars out of the GDP, out of the budget, of course it's going to take it. So is the
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market collapsing a little bit? Is it in correction territory? Yes, of course it is. But it's not just
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because of the terror fight. It's because the government, for the first time in our lifetime,
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we're seeing them try to cut a deficit. So when you're taking a trillion dollars out of the deficit,
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of course it's going to hurt the country. Of course it's going to hurt. But you know what, in the long
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run, we'll be okay. We'll start paying down this debt. That's why when they came out and said $5,000
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checks for Doge, I thought it was extremely dumb and irresponsible. We have a debt to pay.
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But $5,000, if you put it in the pocket of the average American, now granted,
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some Americans are going to take that and pay off their credit card debt because credit card debt
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is through the roof right now in America, especially among the elderly, which is a very
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big problem. Property tax among the elderly, it's terrible. If you take that money and you put it
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back into the economy, you drive this thing up. Giving $5,000 checks to people, I'm sorry, folks,
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for you people who are very angry and tuning out right now, it's not the best course forward in the long
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run. Well, and we have recent evidence, right? You know, those stimulus checks during the coronavirus
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felt good as they were coming in, but the American people paid back the stimulus four times over
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because of the inflation it caused. So I'm with you. I'd much rather the $5,000 checks just go to pay
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down our national debt as opposed to just give out money. To me, that doesn't make sense. When we look
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at this effort, though, I mean, the Democrats seem to have lost their mind. Yes. And Chuck Schumer,
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our great senator from New York, the moron that he is, he came out a couple of weeks ago stating,
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of course, there's waste in government. Everyone knows there was waste in government,
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but you don't tackle it with a sledgehammer. You got to use a scalpel. And I'm sitting there like,
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you've been there for 30 years and you haven't lifted a finger to do a damn thing about it.
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The Democrats, one thing they're good at is actually demonizing other people.
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So you see the demonization of Elon Musk going on. And as a result, we're seeing terrorism because
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it's a clear cut definition of terrorism. They're targeting Tesla stations, Tesla electrical,
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the chargers. And we're seeing attacks, gunshots, Molotov cocktails. What are your thoughts on these
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lunatics that are running around attacking Tesla dealerships, but not just dealerships.
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They're also attacking individuals that drive Teslas. Unless those individuals like put on a
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bumper sticker, I don't like Elon Musk. Yep. I actually want to read you a text right now that
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I got from a friend this morning about a guy who owns a Cybertruck. Neil's friend owns a Cybertruck.
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He's selling it because people harassing him. Dog crap on his car, throwing stuff at it,
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trying to destroy his car. Now this is in Staten Island, New York, which is the most conservative
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place in New York City. And these people are doing this. They're not rational people, Nick.
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These people are, a lot of them are paid agitators from Antifa and BLM and all these
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factions, probably a little less from BLM now, more so Antifa. They're paid by the likes of George
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Soros. We know that from times in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case now.
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We've hit a new low in society. People, the mental health, a buddy of mine looks at Google
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Trends all the time. And if you look at the Google Trends on people on anti-anxiety,
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anti-depression medications, it's through the roof. And it's hard to believe because we put up
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with Joe Biden for four and a half years. And I came on this show every single day in the great
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Lou Dobbs. We came on the show every day and we hit the man and we dealt with it in the public domain
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and we dealt with it responsibly. None of us were going out, burning down cars, going to Delaware,
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destroying his stuff, doing things like that. Hunter Biden, nobody went after him.
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Attacking visiting angels because essentially that's what the White House was.
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Right, right. So the Democrats have a way about going things. And this is only two months in now.
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The only problem this time is you had mentioned New York. Mayor Eric Adams, at least for the
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foreseeable future, is on Team Trump. So I don't think we're going to put up with this stuff in
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New York. And the other day we saw it, arresting people in New York for destroying his dealership
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and defacing his dealership. It's totally pathetic. These people are total losers. And most of them are
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young kids who are ruining their lives. I came out on the show the other day and I said,
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congratulations, you got your video, you got your arrest, send it to your parents because
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they failed as parents. You guys are losers. That's not how you deal. And the sad thing,
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isn't it? And they're not bright because they'll put their faces right on camera and post it.
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Right. Well, some of them are the cowards. They wear the face masks, right? But a lot of these kids go
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to Ivy League schools. And I often joke, some of the dumbest people I've ever met, some of the
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dumbest people I know went to Ivy League schools. I don't think schooling dictates, by the way,
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who you are. I know a lot of smart people who didn't go to college. I know a lot of smart people
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who went to community colleges, smarter than people that went to these Ivy League schools.
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So I don't think because you do well in standardized testing, that dictates who you are. We have
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Barack Obama, an Ivy League graduate, who was perhaps one of the dumbest presidents we've ever
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had in this country, a Hunter Biden, another Ivy League graduate. Now, there are some who make it
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out alive. The great Lou Dobbs went to Harvard. And to this day, the smartest man I've ever met.
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I want to go back to USAID because Marco Rubio said they're cutting about 83% of what they found
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in fraud. And you have to imagine, why are these people going so crazy? What bone did they pick?
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What bone did they strike in these people's heart? And I think they're getting a little terrified
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because he's going to start going through the IRS because these people have made money. It's ill-gotten
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gains. They've made money from places they were not supposed to make money from. Now, I'm not going
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to make any accusations, but I think time will tell where a lot of these people were making their money
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I've spoken for the last several years about the corruption, the absolute corruption within our
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government where you have all this money, trillions of taxpayer dollars that are going out to fund
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quote-unquote non-profits. But they're not really non-profits. They're far-left activist organizations
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that are set up to push a far-left messaging, far-left agenda. And they also work with
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subgroups, sub-agencies. So they'll get the government grant. They'll then pay themselves
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and then give the rest of the grant money to other agencies to perform any duties. It's a whole scam
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to fund the left-wing ecosystem. And it certainly needs to be investigated.
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Do you foresee a lot of criminality within the government? Not just under a Democrat
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administration. This has been going on for the last couple of decades. Like since when have
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non-profits not done anything? Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I say this all the time.
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I don't care if it's Republicans or Democrats. I'm not sitting here and I'm not going to be a
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sycophant for Republicans because there's Republicans out there who are just as corrupt,
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if not more corrupt, than the Democrats. Lindsey Graham, for one. Total Warhawk monger. John
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Bolton, another one who calls himself a Republican. George Bush. You've had these people who have
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gotten us into endless wars, probably getting money on the backside of things, and they've paid no
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prices. Now, you'd mention these non-for-profits. I think we're going to see a massive, massive
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investigation into, I'll name two of the biggest ones, the Catholic Charities of America and the Red
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Cross. Both of them have had stations on the border for the last eight plus years helping
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illegals. If you go right now to the Catholic Charities of New York website, it tells you on
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there if you're an illegal alien, how they can help you, how they can get you lawyers, how they can get
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you out of trouble if you're being sought out by ICE and all these other people. That's criminal
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behavior. You're harboring illegals in this country who are here illegal. In some cases, you're harboring
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domestic terrorists. It's a word you heard from the Democrats a lot, domestic terrorists, also known
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as school board parents. So these non-for-profits. And traditional Catholics. Right, and traditional
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Catholics. So these non-for-profits, these NGOs, have for years, and this is not something new,
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years, been involved, been entrenched in absolute crazy, crazy stuff. I want to bring up something
00:20:13.120
because I interviewed him the other day, and I think you should definitely, I'm on your show.
00:20:16.520
Mike McCormick, he's got this new book out. I don't know if you can see it on there.
00:20:19.380
An insurmountable evil. And I just finished reading it. And he goes into how the Biden
00:20:24.460
administration, how the Catholic charities, how the Catholic Church and the Pope along the way
00:20:29.880
have helped harbor illegals, helped cover up the China virus, helped attribute to the China virus.
00:20:37.020
These are criminal acts by criminal organizations as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if it's the
00:20:41.560
Catholic Church or not. If you're a criminal, you're a criminal. I don't care if it's the same
00:20:46.460
thing with the Epstein list, Nick. I don't mean to go off on a tangent. Well, there may be Republicans
00:20:50.380
on there. If Donald Trump's on there, I want to know. I don't care. I'm not sitting here trying
00:20:54.320
to cover up for pedophiles. The worst predators in this world, in my opinion, with the exception of
00:20:59.760
terrorists, are pedophiles. You're talking about a thing called integrity. It doesn't matter if it's
00:21:05.580
Republican. We want to expose the corruption. I want to know if any of these non-profits,
00:21:11.280
if any family members to members of Congress sit on the boards of these non-profits and are getting
00:21:15.840
drawing salaries from these non-profits like Sheldon Whitehouse's spouse is doing, 2.5 million
00:21:21.820
taxpayer dollars, by the way. But I don't care if it's a Democrat or Republican. If we find money
00:21:26.800
being funneled to a non-profit and any of those subcontractors, if there's any family members
00:21:33.580
there as well, we need to know about it. It needs to be exposed. The Epstein list needs to be
00:21:38.280
exposed. The JFK files expose it all. That's the only way you fix this mess is transparency.
00:21:45.780
Yet it seems like a lot of people, they don't want to see the ugliness that exists.
00:21:51.900
You know, the funny thing is, Nick, is this is all going to be uncovered by like
00:21:54.900
five 21-year-old kids who are sitting in a doge office with a damn regular lap.
00:22:00.220
Right. You know the crazy, it's so insane to think we've had thousands. The federal government
00:22:05.500
obviously is the largest employer of people in this country. And to think that there's going to
00:22:09.480
be a day coming very soon where the federal government will no longer be the largest employer
00:22:13.640
of people in this country, it just makes my heart feel so good because this company is built by private
00:22:18.520
sector employees, whether it be Amazon.com or I think Walmart's the number two largest employer in
00:22:25.020
the world. But to think that we're going to see a day now where the federal government won't be the
00:22:29.040
largest employer. It's so insane to me to see that Elon's got a team of, I think, 20 people who are
00:22:34.260
working for him. And with simple computer algorithms, they're going to be able to see
00:22:38.080
who got money, where the money came from. We don't need thousands of people to do this. We don't need
00:22:42.260
millions of dollars to do this. These people are working on a government salary, not making more
00:22:46.360
than $400,000 a year, which is probably three and a half times what they're probably making. I assume
00:22:52.740
some of them are probably making $70,000 to $80,000 a year. And these guys with simple computer
00:22:57.360
algorithms, Nick, these 21-year-old geniuses who probably didn't go to Harvard's and UPenn's,
00:23:02.160
these programmers, are going to figure out the fraud and waste and abuse inside this government,
00:23:07.280
whether it be in the IRS or through these NGOs or USAID. And these people are running for the
00:23:12.680
hills. You see at record numbers, Nick, Democrats not running for re-election. Today we saw, or last
00:23:18.540
week we saw the senator from New Hampshire deciding not to run again for office. We're going to see a lot
00:23:23.460
more of that over the next two years. And to me, it's not by coincidence. These people have been
00:23:27.220
there for far too long to not hold that job until the day they die. Yeah. And let's be honest. I mean,
00:23:33.140
this is a problem that was created by Democrats, Republicans, and the American people for not
00:23:37.920
actually holding government officials accountable, allowing the federal government to get this large
00:23:42.380
calling for federal involvement in like every single issue that exists out there. That's been
00:23:47.760
a big criticism of mine. And when you look at the Democrats and Republicans that are in office,
00:23:53.780
I mean, let's be honest here. If Musk isn't successful, you're never going to see a cut
00:24:00.420
in government. You're never going to see them tackle waste, fraud, and abuse. Do you think
00:24:03.780
this is like our only opportunity to make it happen? Yeah. These next four years is an absolute
00:24:08.420
crucial pivotal point for America. If Donald Trump didn't win this election, it was over. And there's
00:24:12.780
nothing hyperbolic about that. They would have flooded this country with millions of more illegal aliens.
00:24:17.740
They would allow them to vote and a Republican would never win in this country again. That's exactly
00:24:22.400
what they want to do. This is our last chance. Absolutely. Because if a Democrat gets in again
00:24:27.500
right after Donald Trump, whether it be J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio, or now they're saying maybe
00:24:33.020
Donald Trump. Elon Musk has, I don't even think it's four years. He's probably got two years
00:24:37.320
to really get this thing going. And he's moving at record pace. Look at what he's found out now
00:24:41.340
in under two months. Imagine what we're going to know in two years.
00:24:45.700
Oh, I could only imagine. Again, this is something I go all the way back to when Senator Tom
00:24:50.640
Colburn, God rest his soul, would go on the Senate floor and just read the ridiculous spending items.
00:24:57.000
And that's when the money was actually appropriated by Congress. It wasn't the discretionary spending.
00:25:02.400
But as the government goes, you know, now we're seeing the Department of Education begin to wind
00:25:06.820
down its operations. Secretary McMahon laid off half the workers from the Department of Education.
00:25:11.660
You have all these Democrats screaming. Why aren't they outraged by the abysmal student
00:25:17.600
proficiency numbers? The failing of students to be able to read, write and do math. They're not mad
00:25:23.640
at that. They're outraged that a federal apparatus that has gotten itself deeply entrenched in academia
00:25:31.180
is now being shut down because it's not performing. It's not achieving the mission that it was set out
00:25:37.340
to do. In fact, it's failing and it's only gotten worse. And yet that's what they're mad about.
00:25:41.720
Do you think Democrats are having a very difficult time on messaging to pick and choose what to fight
00:25:48.620
back, what to push back against, and then when to just keep quiet or say, yeah, we got to get rid of
00:25:53.880
fraud and abuse? Yeah. One of the main issues is the CR, the continuing resolution. The Democrats in
00:25:59.780
the Senate know this is the first time I've seen that I can remember that the Republicans won a budget
00:26:04.640
battle, that the Democrats are going to support this thing and keep the government going because they
00:26:08.660
know they're up for reelection. They're absolutely losing. You don't want to have the Schumer shutdown
00:26:12.680
if you're a Democrat. Exactly. Exactly. The Republicans find a way to own it every single time
00:26:17.300
like total idiots. It's not because the Democrats are smarter. It's because the Republicans are totally
00:26:21.980
feckless. To the education issue, who would be against returning the power to the states? It'll be a
00:26:27.900
more, I don't want to say privatized, but it'll be a more personalized experience to tailor the needs
00:26:32.360
to the states. And you know what? If you want to send your kids to school in New York,
00:26:35.720
where they're going to be indoctrinated and continue to have the lowest scores, that's fine.
00:26:39.680
Maybe you'll pack up and you'll move down to Florida or you'll move to Alabama or you'll move
00:26:43.260
out to Pennsylvania when they get a Republican governor. Buddy, I'm stuck here. Let's take it
00:26:46.940
easy with that. No, but that's just the truth of the matter. And I mean, you, I think, do a terrific
00:26:52.180
job. And to me, as long as I know you, you don't sound like you care about ever losing your job
00:26:57.140
because you're doing such a good job. Not that you can lose your job, but you don't care because
00:27:01.240
you're doing the right thing for the American people. And it's like these teachers have no conscience.
00:27:04.980
They don't care anymore. Our kids are increasingly getting dumber and dumber. And, you know, that's
00:27:10.680
not a slide in America. It kills me inside to know that, that that's the path that we're going down.
00:27:15.380
I was talking to an economist the other day. They don't teach kids economy. I didn't learn
00:27:19.120
economics, Nick, until I went to college. Now, if I didn't go to college, when would I've ever learned
00:27:23.120
about economics? It's ridiculous. We're teaching kids earth science, things that presumably nobody's
00:27:29.680
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So I look at it from this perspective. I don't look at it to teachers. The teachers,
00:28:39.680
some of them are a problem. I would say probably about 25 to 30% of them are dumb. They don't know
00:28:45.800
the subject material. They should not be in the classroom. But you have about 70% of the teachers
00:28:50.240
that are dedicated. However, their hands are tied. They got the Teachers Union, which is a corrupt
00:28:55.960
organization that has done more damage to the education. Randy Weingarten, right, has done more
00:29:01.240
damage to our education system than anyone else. But then a lot of people don't look at the state
00:29:07.060
education boards, the ones that actually draw up the curriculums. I teach at college. So I'm
00:29:12.660
lucky where I have a lot of flexibility in what I teach and how I teach it. It's up to me.
00:29:17.500
But when you look at a K through 12 system, you see that they have to teach this ridiculous nonsense.
00:29:23.460
But even worse than that, they've been told that if a student disrespects you, if a student spits on
00:29:29.720
you, if a student frigging hit you, there's no consequences for that student. That you have parents
00:29:35.020
where the kids have been absent for like two months from school, yet the teacher has no recourse and
00:29:40.000
can't fail that student. I was listening to the radio the other day and I was hearing a story about
00:29:44.700
how a girl who graduated with honors from a Connecticut high school is now suing her high
00:29:51.020
school because she's illiterate. She can't do the college work. She's completely illiterate,
00:29:54.800
can't really read or write. And so it's the entire system, the education system itself that has been
00:30:01.100
corrupted that needs to be abolished and rebuilt from the bottom up. The way you mentioned writing,
00:30:06.080
I didn't learn to write. I mean, I knew how to write, but I didn't learn to write until I got
00:30:09.200
out of college, until I started working in media. Lou Dobbs, the first thing I wrote for him, he
00:30:13.420
gave you your grammatical lessons. Oh man, he absolutely annihilated me and abused me. And I
00:30:19.060
was upset at the time. But if it wasn't for the great Lou Dobbs, I wouldn't have known how to write
00:30:23.460
a damn script. I wouldn't have known how to write a story. And he taught every single person who worked for
00:30:27.860
him. It's things you don't learn in college. And going back to my comments about saying earth
00:30:31.600
science, what I think we need to do, Nick, is we need to start tailoring things down and make it
00:30:35.980
more personalized. I had to take language and foreign language in high school and throughout my
00:30:42.240
graduate studies. I will never use it. I speak English. I can go to 99 places, 99% of the world
00:30:48.680
and they understand English. I have no interest. And that's just me personally in learning French
00:30:52.900
or Chinese. Chemistry. I had to take chemistry. I knew early on, I was never going into a field
00:30:59.380
of chemistry. I did not need to learn the periodic table or things like that. I think what we need to
00:31:04.500
do is we need to start tailoring educations. And by getting rid of the Department of Education
00:31:09.040
ostensibly and returning power to the states, I think it allowed these states to start creating
00:31:13.720
programs with inside of high schools where you know somewhat when you're in high school what you
00:31:18.380
want to do. There's kids I went to high school with in a private school who knew they didn't want
00:31:21.580
to go to college. So let's create programs where these kids can go learn HVAC. Let's learn programs
00:31:26.520
because these blue-collar jobs are always going to be around. AI is not going to replace a heating and
00:31:31.920
air conditioning tech, a plumber, an electrician, a car mechanic, which are in high demand right now.
00:31:37.180
You know, you have these kids who we make them take French, we make them take Russian, we make them
00:31:40.960
take Spanish and earth science and chemistry, knowing they're damn well never going to use it again in
00:31:45.460
their life. Let's start tailoring these programs to help these kids be better off when they graduate
00:31:52.340
high school. Because a lot of kids are worse off when they're graduating high school now than when
00:31:56.380
they get into high school, which is hard to believe as an eighth grader. And require them to take courses
00:32:00.920
that teaches them life skills. Like every student should have to take a course in savings, investing,
00:32:05.720
and compound interest. Every school should have to take home economics and learn how to cook a damn
00:32:10.080
meal or take a shop class. These should all be required courses because they're life skills
00:32:15.120
that you could always use whether you go into the field or not. So I completely agree.
00:32:20.500
What do you see happening over the course of the next two years within the United States? What do you
00:32:27.340
think the Trump administration, because for the first time, I'm actually seeing unity from the
00:32:32.120
Republican Party, which is absolutely shocking. How long do you think that lasts? And what do you see
00:32:37.700
taking place? I think in the next few months, it's probably going to be a little rough just based on
00:32:41.400
the people I talk to economics wise, the stock markets. And as I said earlier, this is a time
00:32:47.520
for Main Street to shine. The small businesses, inflation to be cut down, the prices of lettuce,
00:32:52.660
the prices of eggs to start coming down, gas for your vehicles to start going down. And let
00:32:57.100
Wall Street, they've had their times to shine. These people have made lots and lots of money on the
00:33:03.040
backs of the American people. It's time for the American small blue collar worker. And I'll keep
00:33:07.380
saying it to shine. It's time for these people to start making the money they deserve to make
00:33:11.740
because they built this country. And they're the reason this country sustains. So you know what,
00:33:16.720
for the next, I don't know the time period, whether it be six months a year. So what if you can't buy a
00:33:21.120
new car, just hang it out. Let's not cave into this nonsense, you know, importing car parts from
00:33:27.040
Canada, which are like among the highest things from Mexico. Let's hold off on that. If they want to
00:33:32.420
inflate things and they want to raise the prices on tariffs, that's fine. Let's not buy a new
00:33:36.420
computer for six months or a year. Let's not buy a new car for six months or a year. Let's make
00:33:41.220
these people feel the pain that the American people have been feeling for the last four and a half
00:33:45.100
years. Okay. So I think that's, that's the first step we need to just ignore the fear mongering
00:33:50.220
people didn't work out with COVID so well with the fear mongering, but don't fall into that trap again.
00:33:55.720
If you have a 401k, if you have stock portfolios, don't panic, don't sell. If you could,
00:34:00.080
if you could afford to hold out and not sell and you have high dividend stocks, hold out.
00:34:05.660
Just, you know, it's not going to be easy. Like I said, it'll probably be a rough next few months,
00:34:11.000
but in the long run, it'll work out. And by long run, I mean, you know, after six months to a year,
00:34:15.760
um, that's number one, number two. Do you think that timeframe, just to interrupt you a second,
00:34:20.240
do you think that timeframe, uh, I think your timeframe is spot on because we know the midterms
00:34:25.420
are going to be coming up. And do you think the Republicans would hold if things still don't
00:34:30.580
improve it by that point? If the messaging is correct. So the, the, what, everything I've
00:34:34.580
been told by key indicators and stuff, if there is going to be a recession, it'll be around June,
00:34:40.000
July ish. Now the thing, the June, July ish, uh, maybe August, the thing about recessions is by the
00:34:45.460
time, you know, you're in one, you're already on your way out. So if it does hit around June,
00:34:49.740
July, August, we'll be on our way out towards, uh, you know, economic freedom and economic prosperity.
00:34:54.460
Yeah. I think they hold on one way or another because of whether it be the economy immigration,
00:34:58.840
I think if the messaging is right out of the white house, they can play this thing off very,
00:35:04.020
very well. If they get a budget through, if they start, uh, some spending cuts, if they start
00:35:07.640
identifying and putting out in the public domain, everything that's gone on in this country for the
00:35:11.120
last four and a half years, the American people, I think we'll start to understand as they have been.
00:35:15.780
I mean, like I said, you look at these poll numbers now with Donald Trump and his job approval
00:35:19.180
and everything like that. Um, I think they'll hold on. So like I say, I give it six months,
00:35:24.520
maybe, uh, six months and we'll be on our way out of this. Now I could be completely wrong and I hope
00:35:29.040
I am. And I hope this is just a moment, a momentary one month, two month thing. And we get this thing
00:35:34.240
sorted out, which is what I think it's going to take Canada and Mexico to wake up and realize that
00:35:39.080
they need us more than we need them. But, um, after that, I think it's, it's green, uh, green grass and
00:35:44.960
clear skies ahead for the Trump administration and for America. So hold on tight folks. It's going to be
00:35:50.240
bumpy before it gets smooth, but, uh, the smooth ride, I think it's going to be a lot longer
00:35:54.260
than the bumpy road ahead. Well, I'm looking forward to it. Cause there's going to be plenty
00:35:58.440
for us to talk about, and I can't wait to have you back on. Everyone needs to check out the great
00:36:02.480
America show with John Fawcett. I'm going to have links up over at the PAS report website,
00:36:06.880
PAS report.com. John, I want to thank you for joining me today. Always a pleasure, Nick. I'll
00:36:11.860
talk to you soon. And as always, I love having you on the great America show and the audience loves
00:36:15.800
you as well. Thanks to everybody who joined us for this interview. I hope you guys enjoyed it as
00:36:20.260
much as I did. Uh, I asked you guys to follow a professor, Nick Giordano on rumble and you can
00:36:25.920
catch his podcast, the PAS report. You catch him on Twitter, PAS report, um, and follow everything
00:36:32.420
that he's doing. Um, very few good professors in this country right now who are doing the right
00:36:38.520
thing, who are speaking out against what the left has done to our schooling system, to our education
00:36:43.660
system. He's one of them. Uh, so I, like I said, I encourage you guys all to follow his podcast
00:36:49.620
and all the great work he does each and every day. Um, thanks again for joining us today
00:36:54.380
here, uh, for this little special clip of the great America show.