A top-secret group chat between John Radcliffe and other senior officials on the National Security Council (NSC) was leaked to the press by a reporter from The Atlantic. Is this an inside job? Or is this evidence of espionage?
00:00:15.940Can I provide some context, Senator, to that?
00:00:19.280Yes, but I've got a series of questions.
00:00:21.440But I think it's important because at the outset you made a couple of comments about signal messaging using encrypted apps so that we're clear.
00:00:29.060One of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers.
00:00:40.340One of the things that I was briefed on very early, Senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of signal as a permissible work use.
00:01:12.300It is permissible to use to communicate and coordinate for work purposes, provided, provided, Senator, that any decisions that are made are also recorded through formal channels.
00:01:24.440So those were procedures that were implemented.
00:01:28.940My staff implemented those processes, followed those processes, complied with those processes.
00:01:38.120So my communications, to be clear, in a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include classified information.
00:01:48.600Well, we will, we will make that determination because.
00:01:52.240Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.
00:01:56.580Sparks are flying on Capitol Hill today.
00:01:58.980As Tulsi Gabbard, John Radcliffe, and Kash Patel sat before that Marxist committee.
00:02:06.860That was Senator Mark Warner there of Virginia.
00:02:09.340It looks like they're trying to find something, like make some parallels between this little group chat that has been leaked.
00:02:17.600Now, for those of you who haven't been following it, there was apparently a group chat of Mr. Radcliffe, some NSC staffers, Vice President J.D. Vance, and a few other high-ranking officials, Pete Hegseth.
00:02:29.540And they were speaking about bombing Yemen, the Houthis in Yemen, talking about the plans of it, and, and, and so forth.
00:02:39.700Somehow, we didn't know before this, but we now know how, somehow Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, that Marxist-run newspaper, was added onto that channel.
00:02:49.400President Trump confirming today that it was, he was added by an NSC staffer, one of John Radcliffe's folks.
00:03:34.680Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
00:03:36.280But, clearly, an inside job clearly is set up.
00:03:39.560So, we'll have to wait and see what happens here.
00:03:41.580But, the fact that these Democrats are trying to compare it to Hillary Clinton in the email scandal is abhorrent.
00:03:49.300She deleted 33,000 emails, bleach bit her phone, and when she was told she was under investigation, ran for the hills, obviously metaphorically.
00:04:13.180James Comey and Hillary Clinton set the precedent going forward.
00:04:16.200You can pretty much do what you want and get away with it, unless there's criminal intent.
00:04:21.380It doesn't seem like there's any criminal intent on behalf of Elyse Ratcliffe and Hagseth, maybe the NSC staffer, but not on their part.
00:04:28.840So, just remember, Democrats, you are the ones who set this precedent about what's allowed and what's not allowed.
00:04:36.160President Trump also having a very busy day doing some executive orders, signing, in my opinion, one of the most important executive orders in both his first administration and his second one.
00:06:05.800Those crossfire documents, hurricane documents, were first declassified by President Trump in January, about three or four days before President Trump was set to leave office on January 20th.
00:06:17.120And they were given to John Solomon of just the news.
00:06:21.880John Solomon started Xeroxing copies of it to be published online.
00:06:38.660So John sends them back to his staff, starts Xeroxing them, photocopying them to be released when the embargo is lifted, presumably after Donald Trump left office.
00:06:49.080And he gets a phone call and says, we have to give those documents back.
00:06:56.140You're going to get them right back for whatever reason.
00:06:59.600They just have to be returned back to us momentarily.
00:07:02.020John, like a good journalist and a good American that he is, gives those documents back to Mark Meadows, former White House chief of staff, only anticipating that one day he would have those documents back in his hands.
00:07:13.860One day, very shortly thereafter, it turns out Solomon never got those documents back.
00:07:19.940So now, four years later, they're finally being released again.
00:07:49.320Devin Archer was a former business partner of the Biden family.
00:07:52.720He was prosecuted relating to a fraud investigation.
00:07:58.280But notably, the tone and tenor of that prosecution changed dramatically after he began to cooperate with congressional investigators and serve as a witness against Hunter Biden and the Biden family.
00:08:53.320He was the man who was brought through the mud because of the Biden crime family.
00:08:59.440Just another victim of their malpractice, their sketchiness, their illegal deeds.
00:09:07.920Always finding somebody to take the fall for them.
00:09:10.420Always finding someone to take the blame for the criminal acts that Joe and Hunter have taken part in their entire lives, their entire careers.
00:09:19.420Folks, our guest today is none other than the great Roger Stone, our weekly guest here on The Great America Show.
00:09:25.600There's so much to take up, so much to talk about.
00:09:28.720What a time it is to talk with the great Roger Stone.
00:09:32.240Roger, as always, it's great to have you with us on The Great America Show.
00:09:39.780President Trump, I think, signing, in my opinion, one of the biggest executive orders of his presidency this time around and last time, declassifying all the Crossfire Hurricane documents.
00:09:51.260Your thoughts as a man who was a victim to this very crimes by the deep state.
00:09:56.200Yeah, I mean, John, the Russian collusion hoax is the greatest single dirty trick in American political history.
00:10:02.380It's nothing less than an epic abuse of power in which the full authority of the United States government
00:10:08.720and the amazing technical capabilities of our intelligence agencies were illicitly and illegally used, utilizing what they knew was falsified evidence,
00:10:20.660the Steele dossier, and the false claim that the Russians had hacked the DNC to try to remove a duly elected president.
00:10:29.180And those who were involved in this, from Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Susan Rice, James Comey, John Brennan, and many others,
00:12:07.500That kind of troubles me a little bit.
00:12:09.360What, I mean, what could have possibly happened in that last four years now, as for manipulating these documents, the original documents that John Solomon had in his hands?
00:12:17.580Look, I think it's a demonstration of the fact that we still have a permanent fifth column inside government.
00:12:25.700It's what Dwight Eisenhower called the military-industrial complex.
00:12:29.840These are bureaucrats who, regardless of who's president, regardless of which party is in power, they are permanently in place inside our national security apparatus, inside the national archives, inside our intelligence agencies, inside the military, inside the think tanks, inside the defense contractors.
00:12:48.480That's the permanent government, and they don't really care about an executive order by the president of the United States.
00:12:55.920We see the exact same thing going on pertaining to the Kennedy assassination documents.
00:13:06.160The president specifically issued an order to declassify and release everything that is in the Kennedy assassination document collection.
00:13:17.720But unfortunately, not all of the audios, videos, and documents that would shed light on who really killed John Kennedy are included in that collection.
00:13:28.240So the National Security Council, the National Security Agency, the Secret Service, Army Intelligence, Navy Intelligence, the Secret Service, the FBI, the CIA, all of them continuing to hold back audios, videos, and documents that would tell a more complete story.
00:13:50.700And what you have instead is a cherry-picked selection of documents that are designed to reinforce the government's false narrative that Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone nut, a Russian communist, shot President John F. Kennedy, three shots all coming from behind.
00:14:08.460If that's true, John, why does a paraffin test conducted by the Dallas Police Department on Lee Harvey Oswald shortly after the shooting of Kennedy demonstrate that he has no powder burns, no nitrates on his chest, his arms, his hands, or his face?
00:14:37.940It is a willful attempt to continue to hide the truth.
00:14:42.100Now, hopefully, unlike the first Trump administration, in this administration, much greater thought has been given to the appointments, much greater thought has been given to who is supportive of the president's agenda and his mission.
00:14:57.560But let's be clear, if Kash Patel, who I think is a very good man, he's going to be one of the great FBI directors in American history.
00:15:05.260But he is now taking over a bureaucracy in which he may be able to count on a couple hundred people at the very top and below him.
00:15:14.380These are the people who were harassing parents for going to school board meetings because they objected to the curriculum being taught to their kids,
00:15:22.040or harassing and calling people who chose to go to the Latin Mass, Catholics who chose to go to the Latin Mass, called them domestic terrorists.
00:15:30.300These are the people who stormed my home at six o'clock in the morning with twenty nine fully armed weapon bearing FBI agents wearing night goggles in a military type operation that cost taxpayers one point one million dollars.
00:15:49.640When they could have just called my lawyer and said, hey, we're framing your client tomorrow.
00:15:56.740Same thing that did to Peter Navarro, but it's so it's so true and it's so sick and so sad and so sadistic.
00:16:02.880But it's what we expect from this government at this point, which is why I'm never surprised, Roger, with anything that happens in this country to this day.
00:16:10.440Going back, looking at everything that we've been through, you know, the interesting thing was Trump was on Air Force One with one of those guys, Clay, whatever the heck his name is.
00:16:35.500I'm wondering if Donald Trump really knows the truth and he's lying to us, which it's not very like him or he's being fed the same lie that we're being fed, which is even more scary, Roger, because he's the president of the United States.
00:16:47.720Well, we do know in 2017 was the year that legislation passed in the 90s mandated that all of the records pertaining to John Kennedy's assassination be released unless the president decided to hold them back.
00:17:02.540And we know that Mike Pompeo, who I think is an evil individual, a deep stater if he ever was one, persuaded the president to withhold much of the material that we're seeing now.
00:17:18.060When I asked the president what was Pompeo's reasoning, he said, well, the director thinks it will reveal the agency's sources and methods.
00:17:41.520I want to get back to before we go to break real quick, before I forget this.
00:17:45.560In those cross-frame hurricane documents, the whole DNC thing, the Russia collusion, there's a big piece of that that's missing that has to do with Julian Assange.
00:17:54.620And it's the WikiLeaks documents and the Seth Rich assassination.
00:17:59.000To this day, it's something that I've taken near and dear to my heart because Lou Dobbs was sued over at Fox by Seth Rich's family because Lou asked who shot the man.
00:22:13.400One of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers.
00:22:24.700One of the things that I was briefed on very early, Senator, was by the CIA records management folks about the use of Signal as a permissible work use.
00:22:35.760It is. It is. That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration.
00:22:43.160So, Roger, Hillary Clinton deletes 33,000 emails, bleats bits her phone.
00:22:47.940James Comey comes out, says she committed critical criminal acts.
00:22:50.700Now, I'm not justifying. I think it was extremely stupid that they're talking about this on a group chat.
00:22:54.220There's no I'm not saying it's not stupid. It's definitely not criminal, though.
00:22:57.820James Comey told us you need malicious intent.
00:23:01.440So what's your thoughts on this whole issue going on between Hegseth and Waltz and now Radcliffe?
00:23:08.580What was particularly entertaining was watching Senator Mark Warner flip out about this.
00:23:13.640I went back and looked. He didn't seem to have any problem with Hillary Clinton utilizing classified information on an illegal server and then destroying the evidence of it after it was subpoenaed.
00:23:24.100I checked. He had no problem whatsoever.
00:23:26.280Now, I also I've looked at the Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian collusion, which is a cut and paste, almost all of it from the Huffington Post.
00:23:36.460In other words, we take any asinine claim in left wing social media and we just take it as fact.
00:23:45.120Every single reference to me in the Senate Intelligence Committee on Russiagate is categorically false.
00:23:52.540It's just wrong. We just take anything that's on the Internet and decide that it's fact.
00:23:57.200Mark Warner is a pain in the ass and he's politically posturing, but he ought to at least be consistent in his fake outrage.
00:24:05.040There were no state secrets revealed here.
00:24:07.760There were no war plans revealed here.
00:24:10.640Yes, there's going to be in any administration discussions, internal debate.
00:24:16.420But at the end of the day, the president made a decision to attack the Houthis who had been taking pot shots and attacking America in the last administration, which we did nothing about.
00:24:27.500The president had it with these attacks on American interests and he hit back and he made it very clear that we're going to stand up for free traverse, free travel on the high seas.
00:24:38.200I think the president did the right thing. If the vice president briefly questioned that policy, it doesn't matter.
00:24:44.380He ultimately supported it. And the globalists like Mark Warner should be happy because this is what our European allies wanted us to do.
00:24:53.560Yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, the Democrats, we told them, Roger, for the last eight years, you guys are setting a dangerous precedent on every single thing you do.
00:25:03.020You guys want to impeach this guy over nothing. It's a dangerous precedent.
00:25:05.840You want to arrest him, fingerprint him, mugshot him. You're setting a dangerous precedent.
00:25:11.400You want to bring charges against him in every single state of one of the 50 states.
00:25:15.900You're setting a dangerous precedent. When Hillary Clinton got exonerated, it set a dangerous precedent.
00:25:21.380So we're just we're not creating new rules, Roger.
00:25:24.060And like I said, there's no comparison to what Hillary Clinton did to what these guys did.
00:25:28.100OK, but they've set these precedents, Roger, time and time again.
00:25:33.060And the second we come any sort of close to them or mimic anything they've done in the past, it's all of a sudden a double standard.
00:25:42.020And it's like they never did anything in the first place.
00:25:45.880No, it's it's Alinskyism is what it is.
00:25:48.740That is when you attack your opponent for doing exactly what you yourself are doing.
00:25:54.260I've noticed that Bernie Sanders, he used to attack billionaires and millionaires, but now he only attacks billionaires.
00:26:02.220That's because Comrade Bernie and his wife became millionaires by skimming millions of dollars in media commissions from his two presidential campaigns.
00:26:10.120Now, that's not illegal, but I also question whether it's ethical.
00:26:14.680Did he tell his donors that he was taking a healthy cut, 15 percent commission for the placement of all the advertising in his two campaigns for president?
00:26:24.260And then, you know, I used to respect Bernie.
00:27:02.640Goldberg, Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic.
00:27:04.880I mean, this is bad news, Roger, because it means that the same deep staters who we promised we were going to get rid of, who Gabbard said and Walt said and Hegseth said and Cass said, we're going to be gone on day one.
00:27:22.460And a good friend of mine, Russ Tice, former NSA senior intel analyst, told me this was going to happen.
00:27:27.840He said what's going to happen is these folks are going to come in.
00:27:30.280They're all inexperienced in a way, meaning they've never held a job like this before.
00:27:35.160Not that they're inexperienced in the job role.
00:27:37.160And they're going to pull the wool over their eyes.
00:27:40.280This seems like the same crap that we saw happen in 2016 and 2020.
00:27:44.760I mean, what's next in impeachment of Donald Trump at this point?
00:27:47.860Yeah, I mean, it's not incidental that the two Vindman brothers, the guys who falsified the Ukrainian Russian collusion hoax, they were both working for the Trump administration in the national security apparatus.
00:28:00.340I was I was indicted by the Trump Justice Department, even though I did nothing wrong.
00:28:06.880There was no underlying crime to lie about.
00:28:09.660There's no Russian collusion, no WikiLeaks collaboration.
00:28:12.760So I think that the deep state is much deeper.
00:28:15.700The swamp is much, much deeper and much more infiltrated into the government.
00:28:20.280And it really does require a complete and total house cleaning top to bottom.
00:28:25.460The people there who are nonpolitical bureaucrats aren't nonpolitical at all.
00:28:31.560And when you cross reference some of them with their political giving at the Federal Election Commission, you know, you find, John, you find out that most of them supported Biden, Obama and Hillary.
00:28:43.400Yeah, it's the same thing in television.
00:28:46.000Most of my colleagues were all Democrats and used to wince and moan and groan when our little Lou Dobbs area would talk politics, specifically Brett Baer's team of people who are all Democrats.
00:28:58.740I want to take one more quick break here.
00:29:16.780Slippers, bathrobes, pet beds, blankets, mattresses, sleepwear, loungewear, duvets, comforters, potholders, aprons, oven mitts, and so much more.
00:31:11.480But, I mean, can you scrape the barrel, the bottom of the barrel any more than this human piece of debris?
00:31:17.720Yesterday, she said that Senator Ted Cruz should be hit very hard in the head.
00:31:23.020The day before that, she said that Elon, as a birthday gift to her, should be taken down.
00:31:28.700She is clearly abusing her position in Congress to advocate for violence.
00:31:33.520I remember after January 6th, John, if you use the word fight in a speech, as in fight for America, you'd immediately be accused of advocating and fomenting violence.
00:31:44.500But lame brains like Jasmine Crockett can say stuff like this, and there's no public objection.
00:31:51.960I think she is crossing the line here.
00:31:56.080She's a hater, but they have nothing to run on.
00:32:03.940They have no solution to solve the affordable housing crisis in America.
00:32:08.100They have no solution to get waste, fraud, and corruption under control.
00:32:13.120We are identifying not millions, not billions, but with Elon Musk's doche, trillions of dollars just flying out the door with no accountability.
00:32:26.440These people have no plan for America.
00:32:40.700I talk about this on the show almost every day, Roger.
00:32:42.960They lost the Democrats lost the last midterm elections.
00:32:45.7202024, they got killed in the general presidential election.
00:32:49.560They lost the Senate and they continue to lose the House.
00:32:52.820At what point do these idiots in the Democratic Party say, we're going to stop following Jasmine Crockett, we're going to stop following AOC and Bernie Sanders, and we're going to try to come back to the middle and win elections?
00:33:13.260I mean, you've lost the last three or four cycles.
00:33:15.660Do you think these idiots get back to the table before 2028, before 2026 even?
00:33:21.480No, I really don't, because the Democrat nominating process is now so completely hijacked by socialists, radicals and lunatics that their process cannot nominate a moderate.
00:33:35.540There are no moderates left in the Democrat Party.
00:33:37.820Now, suddenly they've decided that Chuck Schumer is way too conservative for the party.
00:33:41.900And I don't think AOC will challenge him in the U.S. Senate primary in New York.
00:33:47.200But if she did challenge him, she could beat him.
00:33:49.660But she's not going to make an intermediate step at the U.S. Senate.
00:33:53.740She's going to run for president directly from where she is.
00:33:57.040And she'll be able to raise the money.
00:33:58.620And she'll actually, if Kamala Harris does not run, she'll actually be the favorite.
00:34:05.160I'm going to go to bed tonight and I'm going to pray on it that she does run because, I mean, there's not that many dumb people in this country, Roger, who support what she supports.
00:34:16.760I mean, these people are radical Marxists.
00:34:19.180And the Democrats are nothing but liars.
00:34:21.140There's a Twitter page, Roger, who tracks who goes to these rallies.
00:34:24.620And the Democrats, Bernie Sanders and AOC, have been doing this little tour, touting 25,000, 30,000 people.
00:34:31.140And then when you go through the numbers and look at these people who have been there, 2,000, 3,000 have been at pro-Palestine rallies.
00:34:38.780And when you boil down the numbers, that 25,000 number, now all of a sudden it comes down to 1,500 people at these rallies, which you would get handily at a rally anywhere in this country.
00:35:34.840These people are lunatics, but they aren't going to go away, and the party is moving further and further left into irrelevancy, and they know it.
00:35:45.780If they didn't rig the census in order to rig congressional redistricting, they'd be decimated in the Congress as well, and they know it.
00:35:55.160The problem with these people, as you know, is they cheat.
00:35:57.760President Trump today signing an executive order mandating paper ballots, single-day elections, other important election integrity rules that he's putting in place.
00:36:10.960If we have this Democrat party into honest elections, the Democrats are about to go the way of the Whigs.
00:36:19.200Like you said, I don't see how they sustain anything they've done here.
00:36:22.920Donald Trump is doing everything he promised, and his numbers, Roger, are through the absolute roof.
00:36:28.180The only problem is we can't, regardless of what crazy thing Steve Bannon is working on or crazy thing Steve Bannon's trying to make MAGA look like,
00:36:36.620Donald Trump can't run for a third term, just doesn't work.
00:36:40.360We all wish he could, but he can't, so we're not going to drink the Kool-Aid on that.
00:36:45.460You get the last words here, Roger, as we wrap up.
00:36:48.100Your view of the country, the floor is yours on how we proceed the next three and a half years.
00:37:13.640No person can be elected to more than two four-year terms, and a constitutional amendment to change that would require two-thirds of the Congress and three-quarters of the states.
00:38:00.480He's got to get to work, and he's got to ensure that Congress does their job and gets this thing through, because, like I said, it's our election to lose.
00:38:07.280These people have given us gold to run on.
00:38:10.900Roger, where can people catch you each and every night in your socials?