LOU TALKS MEDIA COMPLICITY IN 2020 ELECTION
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On this episode of the Great America Show, Lou Dobbs sits down with Mike Lindell to discuss the 2020 election and the media s role in covering it. The two discuss the role of the deep state, the media's role in the election, and the possibility that the election may have been rigged.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. I hope you're having
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a great weekend. Yesterday, we brought you my State of the Union address at Mike Lindell's
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2024 election summit. Today, we're bringing you my discussion on the media's involvement
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in the 2020 election, an election that was rigged, and it was a presidency stolen from
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President Trump. I still to this day believe the election was stolen by Marxist Dems, the deep
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state, all of whom were acting in concert, lying, stealing, and without any doubt, stealing President
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Trump's rightful place in the Oval Office. Take a listen to my discussion with Mike Lindell on that
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You come from an era where journalism was journalism. And you were one of my favorite shows all the
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time. And actually, our great real President Donald Trump, he always talked about your show.
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And, you know, back in 2004 or 2005, I seen where the electronic voting machines, you even had
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concerns back then. And you were speaking out, though, back then. And I want you to talk a little
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bit about that. But then I want to say, what changed between now and then? Why are the people that speak
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out now are getting attacked, as you know, and it's totally different? Well, I think my earliest
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reporting, can you hear me? All right. My earliest reporting was, I believe, 2003. Electronic voting
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just coming into play. And most of the critics at that time, and Brenda and I were talking about this
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earlier, most of the critics, the few that were, were Democrats. By the way, that was true in 2020 as
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well, until just a few months before the election. Now, I don't know what happened, but it seemed like
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it was an orchestrated withdrawal of the Democrats from the complaint. They did get the bib up.
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And back then, my concerns were the same as they are to this very day. The machines are
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unreliable. There is no transparency, which is a wonderful word. There's no clarity whatsoever
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about how those little boxes are working. And they're proprietary, and all of the companies
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that have them are private, and they count 90% of the votes in the country. And I'm telling this to
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you, you've spent so much time on this. But it's, what has changed since then? The fact that the
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Democratic Party has been overtaken by Marxist Dems. They have moved farther left. They have become
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an anti-American force in this, in this country. They have actually joined with the deep state
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and created a fifth column in this country that means to do us not only great harm, but they mean
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to destroy the very idea of a constitutional republic.
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Well, I'm going to ask you this. So the Democrats for basically two decades, and I think one time,
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you might have even interviewed Clint Curtis back then, where he set the first algorithms to deal
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with these machines. And he was a Democrat, and then the Republicans are doing it. So he sounds the
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alarm, and you all know the story. The Netherlands listened. They said, well, they asked Clint Curtis,
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they said, what do we do with these machines now that you can hack them? And he said, throw them in
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the ocean. And the Netherlands did, and they got rid of them in four and a half months, forever,
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right? But back then, everybody complained. It was all over the news back then. I've seen a lot of
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your shows back then talking about these electronic machines. But, and people, and the Democrats out
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there, you know, there's whole movies on them in 2018 called Kill Chain, and complaining about them.
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We got to get rid of them. We got to get rid of them. We can't have them. It's not fair.
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But they didn't get attacked, and they didn't get, why do you think it's changed in the last
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couple of years, where, you know, people like me, I say one thing, and I'm sued for $8 billion with a B.
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Now, I'm starting to understand that B number. But I'm only part of a $2.7 billion discussion.
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You mentioned Kill Chain. It couldn't be clearer, the vulnerabilities of these machines and the
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opportunities for evildoers to work their way as they have in, I don't know how many elections,
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how many election cycles have been, the outcome may have been manufactured and produced for,
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you know, for a nefarious purpose. What changed is the Marxist Dems have seized enough control
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of our government. And it really began this iteration with the advances of the Obama administration
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to seize the control of the, of the, of the apparatus of the federal government. Look at
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Hillary Clinton. Suddenly there was the Clinton Foundation, and suddenly it was okay to
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bring up a hundred, what, they're worth $190 million, which is pretty interesting for a couple
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of people who haven't made a lot of money, just working as public servants. And no one wanted to
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acknowledge that the FBI could be as evil as it has become. No one wanted to acknowledge that
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teachers could be actually indoctrinating minor children and talking to them about changing their,
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their gender, suggesting that there are any number of multiples of genders.
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I can't imagine if you had still had your show the last two and a half years.
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You'd have been, you'd have been, I mean, I'm thinking that probably I'd have been canceled.
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I mean, could you ever imagine 10, even 10 years ago, these things that we, you know,
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we have to talk about and it's a, but I, but does it surprise you? The biggest things that,
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that, you know, from, well, even you getting let go at Fox, when our voice was taken, what do you
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think, you know, for them to pull this whole thing off, having the, you call it the bad media,
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the laugh, the fake news. I've always said, I think that it's worse is the conservative media
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that say they were silenced, which is your Foxes, your Newsmax, and your Salem media knew. And I've
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compared it to Lou having, they turned into weather channels where you couldn't report hurricanes or
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tornadoes, where you had a list in front of you. Would you ever in your, could you imagine back in the
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day, you have a list now, you can't talk about this. You can't talk about this.
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No, I'm, or my employment with two networks would have been quite a bit shorter than it was.
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Right. It's, it's strange to me that they have aggregated a group of people who will call themselves
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journalists, who will side with power. We're not talking about, you know, you know, every CNN,
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ABC news, whatever it may be. They're not asking questions of this administration. They're not
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demanding answers. Right. They are joining with power because they are representatives of oligarch
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level power, whether the Jeff Bezos, Washington Post, whether it be the CBS news, Disney's ABC news,
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they're all owned. The figure there are numbers, say 12 major national media outlets. They're under
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the control of the very corporatist globalist elites who we fight every day, but we will sit there and
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we will talk about the personalities on them. We'll watch them and not think too, too much about who
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really owns them and who's really pulling the strings. So I think this is a valid issue. I think
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there's another issue as well. And that is straightforwardly, we have an opportunity here
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that goes beyond the, we're not going to be able to just fight on one front, the elections,
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which is the most important front. But we've seen what the power of the purse does and the consumer
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who is taken just as for granted as a unit by these corporations. Look what happened to Anheuser-Busch
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take a look at what happened to Target. And other organizations. We have to be able to coalesce
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around an idea that this is our country. We're not going to be told what to do by corporations.
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We're not going to be told what to do by Marxist Dems and the left in this country. And they damn sure
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And, and you know, the, it's, it's a good time for my pillow commercial, right?
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Exactly. The media, the media hasn't even, you know, they're going to hit me. Mike Lindell
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did commercials during his whole event. I don't know if we've done one or two, and we've been
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just talking about Frank's speech. So promo code, we'll use promo code Mike. That's easy
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to remember. But my promo code Mike, but, um, um, but yeah, because my pillow just, uh,
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what they came after me, you guys got to realize when my pillow, when they did an attack on my
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pillow, this isn't people like we're talking about other, you know, not buying or whatever.
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This is, they do, they went after the companies, the vendors to, to take me down, to take my pillow
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down and attack them with bots and trolls and social media and attack and go, you better not sell,
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you better not carry my pillow. And they, and then these, these companies just fold up and just,
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you know, because we're cowards, you know, they're cowards, not realizing, but any other time
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you would worry about, you know, because we're in a different time where you're, they're attacked
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and I'm going, and I told all those CEOs that from, and CMOs from all these box stores and all
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these shopping channels going, you know, these aren't real people. The real people are going to
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be upset that you do this. You're not their number one selling product in history of all of
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them was my pillow. Every one of them from Walmart to bed, bathroom, beyond to Kohl's to all of them.
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Now, yeah, in bed, bathroom, beyond. But what happened then, then when they did this, people,
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people didn't, they boycotted their stores going, how dare you do this? So it backfired. I was the
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opposite of what they thought. And they, and, uh, you know, thanks to all of you out there, my pillow,
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any other time in history probably would have been destroyed, but by the grace of God and everybody
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supporting them, you know, you're, they're attacking a USA made company with people have careers there
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in families, over 1500 families of all walks of life, all political parties. And, uh, and here,
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they're, you know, they've had to sit there and every day, worry about the job because they just
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continue to get attacked and attacked. And, uh, you know, it's, uh, for me, you know, and the,
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and then it's my, the, my pillow 2.0. Um, yeah, they're back to making their price. But my point
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being is any of the media, the media started it all, you know, and they'd started it all
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when I was the media's darling before, uh, 2016, I would go, I would go, um, across the street and
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there'd be ABC, NBC, all there. Hey, how many people you hire? And boy, you got your recovery
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network, your Lindell recovery network. And how many people did you hire today? And all of a sudden,
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because, you know, I met in a meeting with, uh, with our great president, Donald Trump before he
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was president, August 15th of 20, 2016. And I come back into a press release to say, here's the
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business, man. I just met the guy. We were talking about Maine, America, and all the great things that
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he said he was going to do. And, and I do this. And then they call me a racist. They attacked me.
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And, uh, people, people I broke bread with in the media, all of a sudden they're, you know,
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attacking me. And, uh, it's just, it was, uh, it was a change. So, I mean, how do you explain
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where you think it's just people worrying about their own agenda? It's their bosses and they just
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have to go to this narrative. When you say the people, I don't think the people had much to do
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with it. Frankly, I think that the media, the corporate media, uh, corporate America,
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Wall Street, uh, Donald Trump, let's, let's be honest. I'll be, I'll be straightforward
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and speak only for myself. I love the guy because he was an obvious disruptor. He was
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ready to put America first. And how many, think about how many politicians preceded him in the
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Oval Office who never said America first. It just, it just occurred to Donald Trump.
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How about that? How about make America great again? Suddenly it was Reagan-esque.
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He reminded us we can be proud of our country because our country has been, uh, I mean,
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has been driven down, uh, by the left. There's nothing that America has ever done right.
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We have to have reparations for crying out loud for something that happened 150 years ago.
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Uh, and, and the people are having serious discussions about this craziness. Uh, you know,
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I would like reparations, by the way, for the fact that, you know, my parents had to work two
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jobs and, uh, you know, there's some folks who didn't and, uh, you know, and I think I could make
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a pretty pity on that. So I think we just have to be really very straightforward about this.
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We are a nation right now that, you know, we're, we're close to having a, a mental illness issue of
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immense proportions. Half the country is, you know, is just behaving irrationally. There's no way in
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which you can justify the, the agenda, the programs of destruction on the part of Joe Biden, Barack Obama,
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whomever on the left. It's on, it's, it's uncannily, uh, irrational. And by the way, it's okay to say that
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out loud. It's, it's nuts what we're doing. And, you know, talking about Tucker, the world isn't what we see
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it as. Yes, it is. It's exactly how we see it. What isn't true are the representations of the corporate
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media. What isn't true are the, the representations of corporate America and the fact that they are
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using their power to govern our lives instead of seeking the consent of the governor. And that has
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to change. And, and when we look at what, what is happening to us in the, we've got to admit what
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we've done. We're a, we're a vastly more dependent nation than at any, any point in our history,
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frankly, whether we are dependent upon China for prescription drugs, whether it's, uh, you know,
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clothing, 95% of our apparel, we can't even clothe ourselves in this country. And that's just okay
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with everybody because the prices are low, but they're low because we don't pay our middle class
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and our middle class in this country, working men and women in this country haven't received a
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significant pay increase in the past 35 years with one exception. And that is during the four year
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term of president Trump for the first time. You know, I talked, I talked to our real president
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and, um, he said to me, he said, uh, he goes, Mike, he said, they've destroyed us so much. Do you think
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we can, you know, we may, it might go beyond the point of no return in your opinion on that? I mean,
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can we get, but now you haven't heard the plan yet of securing our elections tomorrow. I'm a man of
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great faith, but I told the president, we get that back. And I said, sir, you get back in there.
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There's nobody that can bring it back faster. Do you believe that? Absolutely. And I just,
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and I just said to everybody here, you know, I hope that we understand it's time for our representatives,
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our senators to join us in surrounding president Trump with absolute support. Frankly, I would,
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I think that each of the candidates running against him, well, I think there's no question
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about they should endorse him. They should be surrogates representing him across the country
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right now. Amen. Huh? No, they really should. And they, uh, you know, the, the, the one thing is
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they're, they're trapped. You know, if it had been, now just think of this, here's another little
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miracle for you all. If those polls would be coming out, if Donald Trump's around 52 and someone's
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around 40 some, I'll tell you what, they would just go, they'd just keep hammering it. But now
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everything they're doing, it just keeps getting wider, right? So they're into the point. When do
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you just say, Hey, why don't you unite us all and endorse our great president Donald Trump? That's what
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they should do. You know, instead, the oligarchs have selected after the DeSantis experiment,
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experiment fails. I've got to tell a story. I shouldn't tell it. I like that. The DeSantis
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experiment. Uh, it was, you know, he was a creature, uh, and I, I apologize to anyone. I offend with this,
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but he, he was a figment of the imagination of the donor class, the, uh, oligarchs who decided,
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the billionaires who decided, uh, that they know long ago, they decided this, that they know far
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better about who should be president or in any other office than, than you and me and our fellow
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citizens. Uh, the president is a genius, a political genius. And he says, he's not a politician,
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but I assure you, he is my judgment, a political genius. He ran through, and I'm going to do it
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this way. He ran through a list with me of names, uh, that he would like to call DeSantis on a
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discussion. I'm, I'm going to break a rule. I'm going to break a rule. Uh, but he told me that,
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that no one will ever unsee this way. I'll put this, what, uh, DeSantis and his wife, uh, did
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as they walked through the destruction of the, of a hurricane in Florida, you may recall this,
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but they were walking through the area with matching white boots, rubber boots. He seized on
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that and he really wanted to use it. And I'm sitting there thinking there was no way that he wouldn't
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use it. He was right about DeSantis from the moment he took him seriously and people should
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understand. He has, I don't care whether it's Ramaswamy, whether it is, uh, Nikki Haley,
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whomever, uh, is Mike Pompeo in or out? I don't know. Uh, he is, he is a absolute genius, uh,
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at politics. And he, and my wife and I have tried to unsee that, uh, at that image, uh, and
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haven't succeeded. So, uh, there you have it. Yeah. A further testament to his genius.
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Right. No, and he is, he's, uh, yeah, but the, the good hope there is that the polls,
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one of the things I want you all to watch before the next election is there's pollings out there now
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with Rasmussen, Telford, Telfordshire, I think is there's trusting polls. One of the things they
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always had to have it to do this propaganda and all this was polling, they're fake polls,
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just like, uh, Wisconsin before the 2020 election. Oh, it was Donald Trump's down by 17.
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That came out of nowhere. He would say, you know, it was pulling even over, you know,
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the polls we heard about, but the media was only putting out these, their own, what they want,
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the propaganda, you know, you heard all the Texas could turn blue, Texas could turn blue.
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We all know that, you know, the Ken Paxton saving Texas and what does he get for it? Now they,
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you know, they're impeaching him. They put in a rule. Um, you're the attorney general of Texas,
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but you can't prosecute one crime, election crime. Right. But the propaganda, you have to do that
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before they can do the steal, because if it's too far off, it's too big of a deviation and everybody
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would raise up and go, wait, we got people that aren't here that still don't believe things were
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stole. I use this to think all the time that I said, if I told you here in the state of Missouri,
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that Donald Trump won 3 million to Biden's 150 votes, everyone would say, okay, there's a computer
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problem, right? That's what you'd say. You don't say, well, that's great. But if it was reversed,
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same thing. You have to, you have to make the, what you're going to steal. You have to make it
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somewhat close to the, the, you know, the, uh, the, what you can condition people into believing
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because otherwise the deviations are too big. And I'll give an example. When there was a gal and
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I, and I, I love bringing her up. She's in, she's in Georgia. It was a wonderful state down there with
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a crooked Brad running it, but, um, there's a Democrat. Okay. So there's three Democrats running
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in a primary and her and her husband, this was last summer. She gets zero votes in her own
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precinct. Okay. Zero everybody. Now they, somebody screwed up and didn't get the memo. If they would
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have gave her two, they would have said, I'm sorry, ma'am. We can't look into it. Only one loves you,
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but is your husband. You know, that's what they'd have said to her. And she wouldn't have had a leg
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to stand on. We're not going to look into it. I know you only got two, but you know, and they bring
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up a, she could have brought a barrel of other votes. We're going, no, you and your husband, but she got
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zero. So they had to look into it. So this is what I'm saying is the propaganda has to get out there
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first because otherwise you wouldn't believe it. The deviations would be too far apart, but that's
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where our great president is right now is they, the, the polls and they are so far apart. They're not
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even going to be able to lie to cheat, you know, because they cheat and people will demand it this time
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and go, Oh, we fell for it once. We ain't falling for it again. You know? Well, I, I'm not sure that
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I share your, your optimism on that. Uh, and the reason I don't is I don't think we can get to that
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point. I think we have to have demonstrated strength and resolve and numbers as we approach.
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And I'm talking about, uh, beginning with the early part of 2024, we have to demonstrate that
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we're coming together and we are with absolute purpose and resolve again, supporting Donald Trump.
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And by that, I mean, we're in the precincts. We are there as poll watchers. We are there to
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make ourselves known without apology and without any, any retreat from our demand to be there.
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You know, we're a hardworking, ingenious people. We, we've got a, a terrific track record over the,
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the time of this country. And it's time for us to stand up and say, you know, we're not putting up
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with any more nonsense. We, we've got a Supreme court that is making significant changes in our,
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uh, our, our laws. What are the, what are the Democrats doing? Let's take the instance of
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ending affirmative action in our colleges and universities. Joe Biden two days ago said,
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well, we'll show you how to get around the Supreme court. This is a conflict that is underway
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and it has to stop soon. Well, I'm going to ask you this last question. I know Lou, you,
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we talked on the phone and I couldn't tell you the plan over the phone and you still don't know the
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plan. That's it. When I told you that tomorrow at one o'clock central time around the world in 85
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language, we're announcing a plan that will secure our elections immediately. And it's never been done
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before in history, never been talked about before ever. It's a, in your mind, is it, um, I know you
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have great hope, but if I sat here and told you that everyone's going to embrace it, I don't care
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if you're Democrat, Republican of the people now, and then the only ones that aren't, it's going to
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be like a filter going, well, then you must be in on it. How can you not like this plan? So I'm,
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I'm saying to you is, um, um, does that spark your curiosity or do you think that it's impossible?
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And I'm telling you it's a miracle because it's going to happen. Well, you know what? This country
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needs a miracle. That's right. And that, and that's the fact. And I just said, I, I have great faith in
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the unexpected. I'll be watching closely at one o'clock tomorrow. Let's give Lou the biggest hand
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