A Jewish professor at Columbia University has been suspended for standing up to pro-Hamas protesters on campus. Why is it that when someone speaks out in defense of Israel, they get intimidated? What is the difference between a pro-Israel and pro-Palestine group? And why does this happen on college campuses?
00:00:52.900But the political division in this country, it's hitting new levels.
00:00:55.940And it's gotten even worse since the Gaza situation with Israel, the war between Israel and Hamas.
00:01:05.420A professor this week at Columbia University suspended, a Jewish professor, Israeli professor, suspended from his duties from Columbia University.
00:01:12.900Now, we haven't heard about this for a while since the initial riots at Columbia University.
00:01:16.940We saw some months ago when the war first started on October 7th.
00:01:21.500Actually, it's almost over a year and a half now.
00:01:24.180But the riots were sometime after October 7th.
00:01:27.780And we haven't heard about this since.
00:01:29.480But now Columbia University this week has suspended this assistant professor for what they say is intimidation for standing up for Israel.
00:01:37.800But you're allowed to have these pro-Palestinian, Hamas sympathizers, in some cases terrorist sympathizers, terrorizing college campuses across this country.
00:01:47.800But when you speak out and you speak up for Israel, you're suspended and you lose your job.
00:02:26.860Well, it shows how higher education, how far it's fallen.
00:02:29.580I mean, when you have university leaders that can't openly condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization responsible for slaughtering innocent civilians, you know you have a problem.
00:02:40.980And it's the effectless leadership that has led to these student groups that have become extremely hostile to take over college campuses, and nothing happens to them.
00:03:15.680And yet these colleges have allowed this to go on for too long, and it's really insulting.
00:03:20.100Columbia University is actually one of the worst offenders in this country where anti-Semitism is just off the charts over there.
00:03:28.980And they're now suspending a professor that speaks out in defense of Israel.
00:03:34.640Yet how many students are still back on campus after they took over a building at the end of last semester and forced finals to go online and canceled graduations?
00:03:46.540It really is stunning, and it shows how rotten to the core higher education has become, where it's deviated far from open debate, intellectual curiosity, the free exchange of ideas, to this mob groupthink mentality.
00:04:01.500And all you are witnessing is the anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism on display.
00:04:08.020And people need to understand that, that it's not just about Israel.
00:04:11.240It's actually about the United States.
00:04:50.740They call people insurrectionists who fight back or just merely stand up and speak out against the status quo and the norm that's not so normal anymore in this country.
00:05:01.680You know what's so interesting to me about this whole thing, Nicholas, is that after October 7th, the months after, we saw these college campuses getting taken over.
00:05:08.860And it just so happens it's in the middle of an election season.
00:05:13.160Now, you know, polling shows that it kind of hurt the Democrats because even if you watch the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the first one.
00:05:22.700But Trump pretty much got out there and roasted Joe Biden because he said the Palestinians hate you and the Israelis hate you because you've not taken either side.
00:05:32.480Nick, you know better than anybody's political science professor.
00:05:34.520It's very hard to be put in the middle of one thing and not be on either side.
00:05:38.740You're a hard right Republican or you're a Marxist dem.
00:05:41.540I mean, but he managed to put himself in the middle of this thing.
00:05:45.620And after polling started to show that these riots and these insurrections across college campuses were hurting the Democrats, they all of a sudden slowly started to dwindle down.
00:05:58.920Now, that doesn't make much sense to me.
00:06:00.440Maybe you can explain this to the audience.
00:06:03.940And how do you go from one day having fires and fire extinguishers and fireworks and this and occupies and camping out to now all of a sudden it just goes away when the polling shows it's hurting one side?
00:07:32.900How many donors came out and said that they are cutting off their contributions to their Alamadas?
00:07:40.620They're no longer going to be donating to these colleges.
00:07:44.040They don't like the radicalism that we're seeing.
00:07:46.100And so once the funding begins to dry up, well, that forces colleges to change their behavior to take a much more proactive approach.
00:07:55.380So I don't think it's necessarily election-related.
00:07:58.580I think it's more funding-related than anything else, and it shows you that it is about the money.
00:08:04.340Well, I'll argue with you on that because on January 6th, the insurrection, the worst day in America, you know, the day that undermined American democracy, the worst,
00:08:12.380we saw a lot of violent people, but it turned out now that some of those violent people weren't exactly Trump supporters,
00:08:19.460and they were there as demonstrators, some from the government, some from a group we know very well called Antifa.
00:08:26.380And it makes you think, because someone by the name of George Soros, who seeks to undermine American democracy each day that goes by,
00:08:36.380has dumped hundreds of millions of dollars into this country in one form or another way,
00:08:40.380it would be to influence elections or, in some cases, funding Antifa.
00:09:30.080So my question to you is, how much of these insurrectionists do you think are paid professionals?
00:09:37.920And how many of them are actually students who care?
00:09:40.900Well, I think a lot of them are actually paid professionals or just random adults that don't even attend these universities.
00:09:48.300And we actually know that through police records with many of them that were arrested, where it's like they weren't even students at these schools.
00:09:55.260And you do have this professional activist class where they go from one protest to another protest.
00:10:27.760You know, college students are supposed to be broke, right?
00:10:30.500So when they're protesting, they get a piece of Otec paper, use a Sharpie marker, and that's their sign.
00:10:36.060Well, they had all these professionally made signs that literally cost thousands of thousands of dollars.
00:10:42.540So there's no doubt that there was funding behind this.
00:10:45.240And I do believe that there was pressure behind the scenes to pull back on these protests going into the fall semester because it's an election.
00:10:54.620But again, I think that the real reason that the colleges took action for many of them was because of the donor class.
00:11:00.840Once you start hurting the gravy train, that's how you force people to react.
00:11:07.340And the gravy train is the most important thing.
00:11:09.540But I don't think it's the end with these protests.
00:12:52.040Folks, are you tired of supporting big box stores and multi-billion dollar corporations that don't support us?
00:12:57.300Corporations that donate tens of millions of dollars a year to push woke Marxist dem ideologies?
00:13:01.480Whether it be Amazon and Jeff Bezos or Target with their transgender clothing for kids, or even Bud Light going totally woke, enough is enough.
00:13:09.020Why should we as lovers of this country continue to support these corporations?
00:13:14.560I constantly get people who reach out to me and ask,
00:13:16.720John, what can we do to save this country?
00:13:18.840Where can we shop and support American-made brands and conservative ideologies?
00:13:22.900Well, we now have a solution to stop shopping at these woke companies and stop funding the deep state and a solution to buy American.
00:13:28.940This is something we can all do right now to kick the deep state in the teeth and stop funding our enemies and vote with our dollars.
00:13:35.880We have a parallel economy for around 450 household products.
00:13:40.100Not only can you cancel woke brands like Procter & Gamble and Johnson & Johnson, you can also cancel the stores that carry them.
00:13:46.240I need you all to head over to switchwithjohn.com, that's switchwithjohn.com, where you can read all about our movement.
00:13:53.560We have access to a conservative manufacturer that will replace these brands and the stores you buy them from.
00:13:59.060It isn't an additional budget item because instead of turning right into Target or left into Walmart,
00:14:03.440you're going to shop directly online, directly with the manufacturer.
00:14:06.820Folks, this is a patriot movement that is happening right now before our eyes.
00:14:10.640Every 47 seconds a shopper is switching to our online store and we need you to partner with us, join us, and band together.
00:14:17.520I just canceled my Amazon Prime subscription because I've truly had enough.
00:14:20.760So what do you say? It's time to put your money where your heart is?
00:14:24.020Join us today and help save this nation.
00:14:25.720Go to switchwithjohn.com, that's switchwithjohn.com, to learn how you can join thousands of other patriots and help take this nation back.
00:14:35.100Switchwithjohn.com. We'll see you there.
00:14:39.200We're back. We're talking with Nicholas Giordano.
00:14:41.180He's a professor of political science at Suffolk Community College.
00:14:44.040And for all you who have watched this show, Lou touted community colleges on this show as the greatest thing that you can possibly do because of these woke universities like Columbia University, like Harvard University, that allow these things to go on.
00:14:59.860You go to a community college, you figure out what you want to do with your life.
00:15:02.840When I went to college, you know, I didn't really know what I wanted to do with my life.
00:15:05.600Never did I think I'd be sitting in front of this camera some 10 years later.
00:15:09.120But nonetheless, you know, community college is a bang for your buck and, you know, you get your money's worth.
00:15:15.960And I think you get, and you're going to answer this for me, a little less indoctrination.
00:15:20.040First, I really want to turn to the gravy train like you mentioned.
00:15:23.600Columbia University did their annual Giving Day fundraiser this week.
00:15:28.780They received 30% less funds than in previous years.
00:15:32.020The university raised $21.3 million in 2022, a 28% decline this year.
00:15:55.940And so we see the people like Robert Kraft.
00:15:59.120You know, a lot of people like to attack the billionaires, but a lot of these billionaires, they prop up some of the university systems and their endowments and whatnot.
00:16:46.240All these people want to pat themselves on the back as if they're the moral holy warriors of the 21st century.
00:16:51.600When in reality, all they're doing is causing disruption and annoying other people.
00:16:56.580But the donor class pulling back their funds is a really important indicator because it tells us that they're dissatisfied with the higher education system.
00:17:04.300And it goes beyond that, right, because we actually have employers that have publicly announced that they're not going to be hiring students that come out of these universities because they know the quality of employees that they're going to be getting if they do hire them.
00:17:19.560And they don't want to deal with pompous, self-entitled, spoiled brats that want to express political opinions at work and make the workplace a toxic environment.
00:17:29.320They want people who are going to produce.
00:17:31.420So this is going to have a ripple effect.
00:17:33.540And the colleges better wake up before the break.
00:17:35.380You said, you know, you replace one administrator with another and it's almost the same thing.
00:18:31.840Indoctrinating our children and what they're doing to them.
00:18:34.140And there was a statistic I remember reading when I read the book, Cover to Cover, that I may be missing this a little bit.
00:18:43.480But the bottom line was that teachers and professors score among the lowest percentile on standardized testing when they go and do their boards and all those exams, which is kind of funny because these are the same people who want to sit here and teach our children.
00:18:59.280Now, I don't hold standardized testing as the holy grail.
00:19:02.660I think it's absolutely ridiculous and stupid because there are people who are smart who are just very bad test takers.
00:19:08.160I could have probably went to an Ivy League school.
00:19:09.920I didn't care to sit down and study for tests, nor would I ever want to go to an Ivy League school with what I've learned today.
00:19:14.480I probably wouldn't make it out a semester because I would have told one of the professors to go F themselves when they try to indoctrinate me with this garbage.
00:19:25.140But some of the things they're teaching in these schools, Nicholas, in these good schools, we'll take, for example, University of California, San Diego.
00:19:31.700San Diego is rather conservative relative to the rest of California.
00:19:36.280They're rolling out climate change courses and they're requiring that the students take them.
00:19:43.520Now, this is just a new level of indoctrination we're learning about.
00:19:47.700Usually it's, you know, this nonsense of in the past few months was Gaza and Hamas and Israel.
00:19:55.720Now they want you to learn about climate change.
00:19:58.260Nicholas, I talked to Mark Morano, who's one of the best climate change experts very often on this show, and he's excellent.
00:20:05.020And he assures me that there is really nothing to worry about.
00:20:08.320But your thoughts, I mean, as we've hit a new low of stupidity in this country.
00:20:15.780So with the whole climate change thing that UC San Diego is doing, the thing that the audience needs to understand is that these are climate change degree requirements.
00:20:24.820That in order to graduate and get a college degree, regardless of your major, you're going to have to take climate change courses.
00:20:32.700And that's where it falls along the category of indoctrination.
00:20:36.620I mean, if I am going to for criminal justice, well, climate change is irrelevant to my profession.
00:20:43.720Now, if I'm going for earth science, OK, it may make sense to take a course that deals with the climate change issue.
00:20:52.080And it's not just climate change degree requirements where we see this indoctrination being pushed.
00:20:57.740Multiple colleges throughout the entirety of the country have also included diversity, equity and inclusion degree requirements.
00:21:04.640So here in New York State, you have SUNY that now requires that you complete at least six credits of diversity, equity, inclusion certified courses in order to get your college degree.
00:21:16.440Whether you're going to to become a lawyer, an accountant, a gym teacher, it doesn't matter.
00:21:22.560Everyone has to take these courses in order to get the college degree.
00:21:25.580And that's where it goes into the line of indoctrination.
00:22:07.900We're going to push a political agenda and we're going to create the next generation of activists.
00:22:13.080And I could assure you, you could match the decline within our education system with the decline of our nation.
00:22:20.500OK, if we continue down this trend, history will show as we started to go down this road of activism and radicalism within our schools, the United States began to collapse because you can't have a bunch of people graduating that are largely incompetent.
00:22:37.100And yet at the same time, instill them with this disdain, this hatred for the United States, that they're one day going to be leading.
00:22:47.940You know, I back when I got into this industry some years ago, it feels like forever now.
00:22:52.960But I was embarrassed that I was a millennial because I thought my generation of people were the dumbest generation of people that we've ever seen in this country, just based on the stupid things that were happening.
00:24:47.800We're talking with Nicholas Giordano, Professor Nicholas Giordano, a professor of political science at Suffolk Community College,
00:24:53.980host of the PAS Report, a great podcast.
00:24:56.940I encourage you all to go subscribe and download and listen to Nicholas's guests and his insights past the show.
00:25:04.080I want to turn to an issue that I mentioned in my opening monologue, Nick, and that's illegal immigration and the effect it's having on our schooling systems.
00:25:12.720Now, I understand it wouldn't affect yours as much because you're in higher education,
00:25:16.040but for kids in grade school, kids in eighth grade and below and kids in high school,
00:25:22.420there's some states now in, like, take, for example, Oklahoma and Texas and Tennessee,
00:25:28.460who are questioning the legality of having illegal immigrants in our schools without legal residency,
00:25:37.400and are they entitled to public education?
00:25:40.700Now, it's an interesting thing to think about.
00:25:43.140I don't know really where I stand on that right now, but it's a really interesting thing if you think about it.
00:27:28.440All these states that wanted to claim their sanctuary states are now reaping the problem of what they were preaching about.
00:27:36.260And they're all complaining because it's not like the federal government's providing the funding for these students.
00:27:41.000This is on the local residents and the state itself to provide this education.
00:27:45.780So it's decimating budgets across the country.
00:27:48.680So you have taxpayer dollars that are being used.
00:27:51.880You have students that can't speak English and are far behind.
00:27:57.060And the schools don't have the resources to take care of them.
00:27:59.960And so it's impacting the quality of education that American citizens and legal permanent residents get.
00:28:05.500And then you have the broader impacts within the society of what happens when you inundate areas with people from other countries that are not supposed to be in this country.
00:28:16.920And it really is a perfect storm that we're witnessing.
00:28:20.340I mean, learning levels are at historic lows because of what they did during the coronavirus.
00:28:25.200The academic achievement gaps are at their widest levels because of what they did at the coronavirus.
00:28:29.820So students are already behind and now they're going to be falling further and further behind as they simply cycle through the system.
00:28:37.800Yeah. You know, you mentioned the humanitarian part of it.
00:28:40.440And I'm kind of like I said when I asked you the question, I'm kind of torn on it because, you know, I know many illegals who are in this country from Mexico and they are good people.
00:28:54.440They're not supposed to be here in the first place.
00:28:56.600And, you know, obviously, as Americans, as human beings, we have hearts and compassion.
00:29:02.180But by allowing them to come here and raise their kids here and allowing them to have what is called an anchor baby,
00:29:08.340where if you have a baby in America and you and your spouse are illegal, the baby is automatically a citizen because he's born here.
00:29:14.600By doing that, you're incentivizing them to come here.
00:29:16.780You're incentivizing them by allowing them to use our schooling system.
00:29:20.260You're incentivizing them to come here.
00:29:22.720So that's why I want to say worse than that.
00:29:24.280You're actually incentivizing human trafficking to a large degree, too.
00:29:27.360I don't think people recognize that, you know, when we look at the numbers, over 300,000 unaccompanied minors have crossed the border.
00:29:36.040So when they're unaccompanied minors, they're not with any parents or anything.
00:29:39.620And they're placed with someone that says that they're a family member.
00:29:43.120So so I think it's actually even worse when we look at it from the humanitarian aspect.
00:29:48.280How is that humanitarian? Because these are the ones that are going to be targeted.
00:29:53.620And when you look at the gangs and recruitment in the gangs, you know, MS-13 isn't coming to me.
00:29:59.540They're not coming to my children. They're not coming to my neighborhood to recruit them.
00:30:03.480Who are they recruiting? Well, they're trying to recruit, you know, those unaccompanied minors that came into the country that don't have any real connections,
00:30:10.500that feel isolated or lonely. That's who they're going to recruit.
00:30:13.420So I think that what this administration has done, in my opinion, it crosses the criminal threshold.
00:30:20.360They opened the borders. They allowed this problem to happen.
00:30:23.560They thought they could control it. They have now lost all control over it.
00:30:27.020And the situation is getting far worse.
00:30:29.920Well, it's not necessarily just this administration.
00:30:32.700It's Obama who gave us DACA that's been sitting in the courts.
00:30:35.900I mean, for years and years and years where he says these people are allowed to come here.
00:31:20.080Yet we have, Nicholas, speaking of college, immigrants coming from or migrants coming from China and Asian countries, but specifically China, who they give out visas like it's absolutely nothing to come to our school system.
00:31:34.500Well, let me tell you a story about what's happening in this country this week.
00:31:37.560Five Chinese graduates of the University of Michigan were caught spying on U.S. military bases, this according to the FBI.
00:31:45.600The incident occurred during Northern Strike Exercises, one of the largest U.S. National Guard training exercises held in America.
00:31:52.380The students were charged with false statements, conspiracy, destruction, alteration of falsification of records in a federal investigation.
00:32:00.120Now, these are people who are doing espionage, right?
00:32:55.640I wrote a whole article about this published in Daily Wire about a year and a half ago where our institutions have become reliant on federal, on foreign monies and on foreign students.
00:33:06.900The reality is that a lot of Americans aren't going into the STEM programs and these college universities need to fill their seats.
00:33:14.880And so they recruit from other countries to fill those seats and they pay exorbitant amounts of tuition.
00:33:21.580Now, China has figured out a way to influence the system and understand that we've seen China influence the system where they have agents on tons of the research universities, the major research universities throughout the country.
00:33:36.060They're there to conduct espionage operations, identify people that could serve as spies, look at the research projects, try and recruit professors.
00:33:46.400Harvard University, Charles Lieber, Professor Charles Lieber, was actually convicted of spying for China.
00:33:52.820I mean, he was feeding China information and he was getting all this money from the Chinese government.
00:33:58.180He was actually on contract with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, interestingly enough.
00:34:04.220But you look at it, it is really dangerous and it's national security that's at risk.
00:34:09.320So this is a measure that Congress should look at is what is the national security threat of having all these foreign students come?
00:34:17.280And even if it's not for espionage purposes, understand that these foreign students will go to some of the best engineering schools here in the United States.
00:34:26.320They are then going to leave, go back to their native countries to improve and bring the technologies to their countries, which are in direct competition with us for global power.
00:34:36.820So it really falls into a national security issue that should be investigated.
00:34:41.100And China is the worst of the worst offenders in this.
00:34:45.080The saddest part of it all is we let them do it.
00:35:16.180There's some people who are fighting back.
00:35:18.660Nevada's women's volleyball team has taken a vote among the team members that they will forfeit against any team who has men playing as women in their sports.
00:35:30.100I mean, it goes against the school's policy, but I mean, hats off to these people.
00:36:02.840And that's why everyone needs to push back.
00:36:04.660I mean, I think that this is one of the unspoken issues that's going to impact the 2024 elections, but the reality is enough with the stupidity, all right?
00:36:15.020And the reality is you don't change anything for maybe 0.1% of society, you know?
00:36:20.740And from a party that claims that they care about women, it's interesting to see them let men dominate in a bunch of women's categories.
00:36:29.460It's interesting to see them let men apply for women-only scholarships, to let men win women-only beauty pageants, to let men win state championships for women-only sports.
00:36:41.720So they don't really care about women the way they say they do, and I think it's an affront to our entire country, and the nonsense just needs that.
00:36:59.060I mean, it's become such a damn joke what we've allowed this country to come to.
00:37:04.280And an overwhelming majority of it is men playing in women's sports because no woman wants to sit in, you know, at least any smart one.
00:37:12.360I don't know a woman who would want to go out and play football with a bunch of men.
00:37:15.140It sounds like a recipe for injury and disaster.
00:37:18.240I mean, Nicholas, this country is going to a hell in a handbasket.
00:37:23.200There's a few people who are doing a good job at not indoctrinating our children and waking them up to the realities of what be, and you're one of them.
00:37:31.380Where can people listen to your podcast?
00:37:55.680Always a pleasure talking to you, John.
00:37:57.580Thanks to Professor Nicholas Giordano at Suffolk Community College for joining us today.
00:38:01.660And letting us in some insight onto what goes on on these college campuses and, you know, some remedies on how we can teach our children to fix them and avoid them if they can at any cost.
00:38:13.800Thank you all for being with us today.
00:38:15.120Please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show as our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.