The Great America Show - September 12, 2023


MARXIST DEMS： 2024 AMERICA’S FINAL ELECTION


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

160.92824

Word Count

6,877

Sentence Count

408

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

The government will shut down at midnight on the 30th if Congress does not pass a continuing resolution to keep the lights on and the doors open. Some conservatives in the House have told Speaker McCarthy that they will refuse to support a Continuing Resolution that continues all the crazy policies of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi. The other major issue facing the Republican Party is the impeachment inquiry of President Biden.


Transcript

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00:01:15.040 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs.
00:01:24.300 Welcome to The Great America Show and thanks for being with us.
00:01:27.880 As the U.S. Open Tennis Tournament concluded over the weekend,
00:01:31.820 the U.S. Tennis Association decided not to play the National Anthem.
00:01:36.980 Neither the men's nor women's finals featured our National Anthem.
00:01:41.000 Truly a national disgrace that the finals played in New York a day before the anniversary of September 11th,
00:01:49.660 the National Anthem would not be played.
00:01:52.140 The House of Representatives back in session this week.
00:01:56.020 Two of the biggest items on their list are funding the government and impeaching President Biden.
00:02:01.920 The government will shut down at midnight on the 30th of this month if Congress fails to pass a budget or continuing resolution,
00:02:09.920 which is a temporary budget.
00:02:11.540 Some conservatives in the House have told Speaker McCarthy that they will refuse to support a continuing resolution
00:02:18.840 and will shut down the government until McCarthy starts acting like a Republican.
00:02:25.220 One of those members is Congressman Chip Roy of Texas.
00:02:29.120 He's had a belly full, he says, and he will reject any spending bill that doesn't address the border and its security
00:02:36.260 and says Republicans have an obligation to do their jobs.
00:02:40.840 Remember last December, unfortunately, 17 Senate Republicans joined with the Pelosi Democrats
00:02:46.620 to take away the power of the purse until this September.
00:02:50.060 And then unfortunately with the debt deal that was cut on Memorial Day weekend, I voted against it.
00:02:54.820 We fought it.
00:02:55.420 We actually shut the House down for a week in response trying to send a signal.
00:02:59.020 We're not going to tolerate that again.
00:03:00.520 I can promise you there is a large block of us.
00:03:03.320 You are going to address the border or you're going to have a massive fight on your hands in the House of Representatives.
00:03:09.680 We are not going to tolerate this anymore.
00:03:12.060 It's time for us to do our job.
00:03:13.680 We can't continue this.
00:03:15.760 This is an actual damage being done to the American people, our own constituents getting harmed.
00:03:21.740 We can't allow that to continue.
00:03:23.660 House Republicans have an obligation to step up and do their job.
00:03:27.460 And Congressman Byron Donalds, a member of the House Freedom Caucus,
00:03:31.260 says a continuing resolution is a continuation of the radical policies of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi.
00:03:39.160 He says it needs to stop and it needs to stop now.
00:03:42.820 There is not Republican support in the House for a clean,
00:03:45.920 continuing resolution that continues all of the crazy policies of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi,
00:03:52.220 for that matter.
00:03:52.900 We're not going to do it.
00:03:54.280 Look at what's going on in New York, down on the southern border, in Chicago.
00:03:58.120 Families are sick of what's happening at our border and it's spilling all over the country.
00:04:03.260 Senate Republicans need to step up and do the right thing.
00:04:05.860 It is time to fight to secure our southern border.
00:04:08.260 That starts with this appropriations battle that we are on the precipice of.
00:04:12.500 So if they try to tell us we have a clean CR,
00:04:14.960 I'm telling Mitch and the boys in the Senate the answer is flat out no.
00:04:18.220 The other major issue facing the Republican Party, the impeachment inquiry of President Biden,
00:04:24.080 and some RINOs don't take seriously their responsibility to hold the Biden regime accountable
00:04:29.200 for rampant corruption and acting against the national interest.
00:04:33.660 Congresswoman Nancy Mace says she wants more evidence before an impeachment inquiry.
00:04:39.240 Here she is.
00:04:40.500 Well, we'll know a little bit more information this week.
00:04:42.500 We go into session on Tuesday.
00:04:44.100 Okay, bribery is one of the bases for an impeachment inquiry or articles of impeachment
00:04:49.820 in Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution.
00:04:52.840 But the problem, Dagan, as you know, is we will never get 60 votes in a Democrat-controlled Senate
00:04:58.340 no matter how much evidence we prevent.
00:05:00.560 And so from my perspective, the House oversight, judiciary, ways and means need to continue our investigations.
00:05:07.340 We need to show the American people all of the evidence that we uncover.
00:05:10.720 We need to do it in swift order.
00:05:12.780 We need more subpoenas.
00:05:14.120 I want the bookkeeper.
00:05:15.260 I want Shokin.
00:05:16.100 I want Hunter.
00:05:16.940 I want everybody who is a witness and saw what we saw in the suspicious activity reports.
00:05:21.860 That information we have to win in the court of public opinion
00:05:24.780 so people can decide whether or not this guy who sold out his country
00:05:28.260 for millions and millions of dollars should be president.
00:05:31.320 How much more evidence would Mace like?
00:05:34.080 The bank records, thousands of emails, phone records, witnesses, whistleblowers.
00:05:38.980 How about Joe Biden admitting on video how he himself had a man fired for investigating his son's company?
00:05:47.780 Isn't that enough?
00:05:49.040 We watched President Trump impeach twice over absolutely nothing.
00:05:53.560 A phone call for crying out loud in one case while the Democrats joked and laughed about it.
00:05:59.540 It's time for the Republicans to get tough, to get serious and to get into the fight
00:06:04.180 because they're fighting for this country and our republic.
00:06:08.500 Biden's poll numbers have been horrendous this year and getting worse.
00:06:12.540 His vice president isn't doing any better.
00:06:15.240 A new CBS YouGov poll found almost 60% of Americans disapprove of her performance,
00:06:21.460 while just 18% say she makes them think better of the Biden administration.
00:06:26.700 That would be uphill work under any circumstances.
00:06:31.000 The polling, not good.
00:06:32.620 Really bad, in fact.
00:06:34.420 President Trump's legal team is reportedly weighing a new strategy in his fight
00:06:38.500 against the Marxist district attorney Fannie Willis in Georgia.
00:06:42.780 Trump's legal team says now they may call Republican lawmakers
00:06:46.600 who objected to the electoral votes on January 6th
00:06:50.760 to testify as witnesses in his trial.
00:06:53.720 Trump's team said there could be as many as 250 witnesses at the trial next March,
00:07:00.100 147 of them being the lawmakers who objected.
00:07:05.000 Joining us now is Attorney John Eastman.
00:07:07.640 John, it's a delight to have you with us here on The Great America Show.
00:07:10.600 You've done great things for the country.
00:07:12.540 You've represented President Trump courageously and expertly.
00:07:16.720 I'd like your thoughts now about the president's trial strategy,
00:07:20.080 bringing in scores of congressmen and other witnesses.
00:07:24.960 Well, I think it's important.
00:07:27.660 Look, and I'm doing the same strategy in my California bar trial.
00:07:31.180 I mean, their whole case, Fannie Willis' case down in Georgia,
00:07:36.380 Jack Smith's case in Washington, D.C.,
00:07:38.800 my California bar case,
00:07:40.380 the 111 other bar complaints that were filed against lawyers,
00:07:44.080 their whole case is based on the authoritarian premise
00:07:46.900 that the government officials said there was no election illegality and fraud.
00:07:51.440 And if you continue to insist otherwise,
00:07:53.600 whatever evidence you have is false.
00:07:55.920 And therefore, we're going to criminally prosecute you.
00:07:58.400 It is it.
00:07:59.180 As I said, it's an authoritarian move.
00:08:01.140 We're the government.
00:08:02.220 What we say must be true.
00:08:03.880 And if you dare to question us, we will destroy you.
00:08:06.220 And so I think the president's strategy of bringing everybody else in
00:08:10.060 who saw the same kind of things we all saw with our own eyes
00:08:13.020 and wanted investigations into it,
00:08:15.820 I think that's a good strategy.
00:08:17.740 Elected officials on the other side of the aisle from the government officials
00:08:21.240 that were saying there's nothing to see here,
00:08:23.420 I think is an important strategy.
00:08:25.460 It strikes me as such because we know everyone listening to us,
00:08:31.160 I'll say nearly everyone,
00:08:33.980 but I would say,
00:08:35.320 but I really believe in my heart it's everyone,
00:08:38.140 understands clearly that there were irregularities,
00:08:41.180 there were anomalies.
00:08:42.160 There were thousands of pages of sworn affidavits
00:08:45.620 that in some cases the courts just said,
00:08:49.220 oh, you know, I credit the government's witness affidavit instead
00:08:54.940 because, you know,
00:08:55.700 he was the one that was in charge and he said everything was fine.
00:08:58.960 So we're just supposed to accept that as gospel truth,
00:09:01.740 despite all the evidence to the contrary.
00:09:03.540 I focused more on the illegality than the fraud,
00:09:07.360 although I think the two go hand in glove.
00:09:09.940 The illegality opened the door for fraud,
00:09:12.440 and we now have proof that in many instances,
00:09:14.440 people walk through that door and engage in significant acts of fraud.
00:09:18.280 But there's no question that elected officials at the county level
00:09:23.240 or the state level or even in the state courts
00:09:25.700 suspended or altered state election law.
00:09:29.680 And the significance of that is Article 2 of the federal constitution
00:09:33.000 quite clearly assigns plenary power to the legislatures of states
00:09:37.720 to direct the manner of choosing presidential electors.
00:09:40.940 And they do that right now by an election code.
00:09:43.880 And if you get rid of signature verification,
00:09:45.540 as happened in Pennsylvania,
00:09:47.660 or weaken it, as happened in Georgia,
00:09:50.020 or you get rid of the voter ID requirements
00:09:52.520 by falsely allowing people to claim they were indefinitely confined,
00:09:55.940 as happened in Wisconsin,
00:09:57.700 or you put up human drop boxes near the college towns,
00:10:02.380 as happened in Wisconsin.
00:10:04.040 Those things were illegal and unconstitutional.
00:10:07.540 And yet that was the backbone of the effort by the Biden campaign
00:10:10.940 and his cohorts in these government official positions
00:10:15.800 to steal the election.
00:10:17.740 There's no doubt in my mind about that.
00:10:21.000 There's none in mine either, to be direct about this.
00:10:25.660 And what is, to me, overwhelming as well
00:10:29.000 is the insistence on the part of, for want of a better expression,
00:10:33.400 the establishment reflex to all of this.
00:10:36.520 And the establishment, I mean, the permanent bureaucracy,
00:10:39.620 the deep state, if you will, of the federal government,
00:10:41.640 the reaction of the establishment state houses around the country,
00:10:48.280 demanding that people not even question,
00:10:52.800 in so much as they watch people in Wayne County, Michigan,
00:10:56.900 putting up boards around the counting room so no one could see.
00:11:02.920 Watching various vote counts from electronic voting machines dip at 2 a.m.
00:11:09.940 simultaneously, or at the worst, concurrently around the country.
00:11:15.200 You know, all of this inexplicable, but at the same time,
00:11:19.180 we found out that we should bear a sackcloth and ashes immediately
00:11:23.840 and be marched off the stage because, my gosh, we're questioning,
00:11:29.680 we're questioning reality simply because it doesn't conform to our sense
00:11:35.180 of what should be there.
00:11:36.580 That is an open, transparent electoral process.
00:11:40.120 Well, that's right.
00:11:41.040 And you had those problems that you identified in Wayne County, Michigan,
00:11:45.380 which is Detroit.
00:11:46.740 You know, we all saw them putting the boards up
00:11:48.700 so people couldn't observe what was going on.
00:11:50.900 They falsely said that there were observers inside the room,
00:11:54.680 except every time an observer left, they would not let them back in.
00:11:58.520 We've got sworn affidavits to that effect.
00:12:00.900 When they left to go to the restroom or go to lunch,
00:12:03.160 they wouldn't let them back in.
00:12:04.460 And so the numbers inside were very skewed.
00:12:06.360 A bigger problem with transparency is the black box contracts,
00:12:10.960 and nobody's allowed to look at the machine software
00:12:13.720 to determine what's actually happening.
00:12:16.620 We've got a couple of examples of that having been done now,
00:12:20.500 one over in Mesa County, Colorado,
00:12:22.820 another short-lived in Fulton County, Georgia,
00:12:26.340 that show there were real problems with what was going on.
00:12:29.300 But they don't want anybody to investigate this.
00:12:31.800 And, you know, they don't want us to exercise our rights as Americans
00:12:34.640 to demand that numbers reconcile.
00:12:37.740 In Wayne County, Michigan, the numbers didn't reconcile.
00:12:41.160 And so two of the four members of the Board of Elections refused to certify.
00:12:44.900 They were then hounded and threatened with their families and at their homes.
00:12:49.540 And they finally said, OK, we will certify if you agree to conduct an audit.
00:12:53.800 The Secretary of State agreed, they signed the certificates,
00:12:57.200 and then she reneged on her promise to conduct an audit.
00:13:01.260 And so they revoked their certificates.
00:13:03.380 And, you know, then they said, well, you can't revoke your certificates.
00:13:05.600 It's already in.
00:13:06.560 We've certified the election.
00:13:07.860 The numbers still didn't reconcile.
00:13:10.000 In Pennsylvania, here we are two and a half years later,
00:13:12.400 and the numbers of ballots cast compared to those people
00:13:16.800 who are shown in their state system as having voted,
00:13:20.500 they still don't reconcile.
00:13:23.140 You know, so these are the kind of things that we ought to,
00:13:26.200 as free American citizens, have answers to.
00:13:28.580 And they just block us at every turn because they're the government,
00:13:32.020 and we're not supposed to question them.
00:13:34.660 This is, as I said, this is authoritarianism,
00:13:37.100 and we have crossed a Rubicon here
00:13:39.220 that is threatening to permanently put at risk our freedom,
00:13:42.840 not just on the questions about the election,
00:13:44.480 but anything else that the American people want to question
00:13:48.320 about what the direction their government is going,
00:13:50.560 whether it's an open border,
00:13:52.160 whether it's, you know, mandated vaccines that are untested,
00:13:56.880 whether it's transgender men
00:13:58.620 in your teenage daughter's showers and locker rooms,
00:14:01.780 these are the things that the uniparty or the deep state,
00:14:04.980 however you want to call it,
00:14:06.300 have deemed to be the official policy,
00:14:08.860 and nobody's allowed to question it.
00:14:10.700 This is not what a free people should tolerate.
00:14:13.580 What is striking in this moment in 2023
00:14:17.200 with the presidential campaign now underway for 2024
00:14:22.260 is that we're seeing much the same demeanor
00:14:26.000 on the part of the Republican Party,
00:14:27.880 which is one of acceptance,
00:14:30.620 very few comments and statements of any substance,
00:14:35.000 and no sign whatsoever of a strong political organization
00:14:40.160 for the presidency or for any other office,
00:14:43.620 for that matter, around the country.
00:14:45.680 I have watched this over the course of now three elections,
00:14:50.080 three cycles,
00:14:51.220 and the Republican National Committee
00:14:53.840 might as well be a subsidiary of the DNC.
00:14:59.220 It is preposterous that we are watching a party
00:15:02.900 with tens of millions of voters
00:15:05.660 ready to go to the polls
00:15:08.520 a year and whatever it is,
00:15:10.800 three months from now.
00:15:12.740 And the RNC is bereft of leadership,
00:15:17.040 obvious integrity,
00:15:18.180 or any interest in acknowledging
00:15:21.560 that Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee,
00:15:23.860 and as president,
00:15:25.720 as former president of the United States,
00:15:28.880 he is the leader of the Republican Party.
00:15:31.840 And without him,
00:15:33.000 there's no idea for the Republican Party,
00:15:35.380 notwithstanding eight other people
00:15:37.500 who would like to beat him
00:15:39.040 in the primary elections.
00:15:42.620 Lou, I think that's absolutely right.
00:15:44.200 And I think what we have is two parties.
00:15:46.360 We have an elite establishment wing of the party,
00:15:49.460 which is a very small,
00:15:50.740 less than 10% of the party.
00:15:52.540 And then we have the rank and file.
00:15:54.900 And, you know,
00:15:55.320 they are now what we call MAGA,
00:15:57.220 Make America Great Again,
00:15:58.660 Trump Republicans.
00:16:00.260 But that wing of the party,
00:16:02.840 that populist uprising,
00:16:04.100 began a decade before
00:16:05.660 Donald Trump entered the scene.
00:16:09.380 It's an outgrowth of the Tea Party movement,
00:16:12.160 of people that are tired
00:16:13.280 of bankrupting their grandchildren
00:16:14.840 with, you know,
00:16:16.200 excessive pork barrel spending
00:16:18.140 coming out of Washington, D.C.,
00:16:19.940 you know, with no checks on it,
00:16:22.120 no breaks on it,
00:16:23.020 as far as the eye can see.
00:16:24.420 And they are enslaving our grandchildren.
00:16:27.300 And people saw that
00:16:28.220 and started waking up to it.
00:16:29.860 They saw what an open border
00:16:31.620 meant to our sovereignty,
00:16:33.340 to our, you know,
00:16:35.640 standards of living.
00:16:37.220 They saw all that
00:16:38.400 and they started fighting back against it.
00:16:40.020 And the Republicans in charge
00:16:41.240 in Washington
00:16:41.880 in the late 2000s
00:16:44.660 and, you know,
00:16:45.180 up to the 2010 midterm,
00:16:47.700 they saw the Tea Party as a threat
00:16:49.920 rather than an ally
00:16:51.620 and pushing back
00:16:52.820 against the deep state.
00:16:54.080 And at that point,
00:16:54.780 you just have to say,
00:16:55.540 OK, we now have two parties.
00:16:57.100 It's an inside the Beltway
00:16:58.280 or the New York, D.C.
00:16:59.460 Corridor Party,
00:17:00.540 the Uniparty,
00:17:01.400 and we have the rest of the country
00:17:03.600 that are tired
00:17:05.900 of what our leadership
00:17:07.420 in Washington is doing.
00:17:09.240 And it's that
00:17:10.060 that has to be suppressed
00:17:11.500 because it's a threat
00:17:13.720 to their sinecures.
00:17:15.540 It's a threat
00:17:16.120 to their corrupt.
00:17:18.400 I mean, how many people
00:17:19.280 have done nothing
00:17:20.140 in their lives
00:17:20.800 except hold office
00:17:21.720 in Washington
00:17:22.340 that are multimillionaires?
00:17:24.560 I mean, this is insane.
00:17:26.780 And, you know,
00:17:27.200 back in the 18th century,
00:17:28.300 if you got caught
00:17:29.180 with your hand
00:17:29.740 in a cookie jar like that,
00:17:30.880 you would have been
00:17:31.280 run out of town
00:17:32.080 on a rail,
00:17:33.320 tailed and tarred
00:17:34.100 and feathered.
00:17:35.120 And what they are doing
00:17:36.880 is going after the people
00:17:38.020 that are shining a light
00:17:38.960 on the corruption.
00:17:40.140 And so far,
00:17:41.220 they're succeeding.
00:17:42.580 But I think people
00:17:44.620 are awakening
00:17:46.140 to what's going on.
00:17:47.740 It's a reason
00:17:48.360 why I'm getting
00:17:48.960 so much support
00:17:49.720 in my fight
00:17:50.320 out in the California bar.
00:17:51.580 It's a reason
00:17:52.300 people are stepping up
00:17:54.420 to help all the co-defendants
00:17:56.080 in the crazy Georgia indictment.
00:18:00.500 People have had it.
00:18:01.720 They know how corrupt this is.
00:18:03.300 They know that
00:18:04.600 our criminal law
00:18:05.840 is being twisted
00:18:06.720 in unprecedented ways
00:18:08.360 to target
00:18:09.280 the political opposition.
00:18:11.320 They know that
00:18:12.160 Donald Trump
00:18:13.320 was targeted
00:18:14.040 illegally
00:18:14.920 with FISA warrants
00:18:16.040 to spy on his campaign.
00:18:17.540 They continue
00:18:18.620 to spy on him
00:18:19.580 after he was elected.
00:18:21.200 And they continue
00:18:21.840 to spy on him
00:18:22.800 even after
00:18:23.680 he was inaugurated
00:18:24.760 and became
00:18:25.300 the titular head
00:18:26.080 of the executive branch.
00:18:27.260 This is the greatest
00:18:28.080 political scandal
00:18:29.000 in our nation's history.
00:18:31.280 And they continue
00:18:32.400 to try and shuffle
00:18:33.280 it under the rug.
00:18:34.400 But there are
00:18:34.960 a bunch of us out there
00:18:35.840 that are not going
00:18:36.420 to let it be shuffled
00:18:37.120 under the rug
00:18:37.680 that will speak up
00:18:38.860 as often
00:18:39.460 and as frequently
00:18:40.240 and as boldly
00:18:41.220 and as candidly
00:18:42.140 as we can
00:18:42.940 to try and shine
00:18:44.520 a light
00:18:45.000 on the corruption
00:18:45.940 of what's going on.
00:18:47.540 Well, God bless you
00:18:48.840 for doing so.
00:18:49.880 And we're talking
00:18:50.700 with John Eastman,
00:18:52.160 a former attorney
00:18:53.480 to President Trump.
00:18:55.720 Also a great American
00:18:57.480 as you hear him today
00:18:59.520 as we are talking
00:19:00.680 about these efforts
00:19:03.280 to shut down
00:19:04.420 free speech
00:19:04.960 in this country,
00:19:06.140 to squelch
00:19:07.360 the candidacy
00:19:08.780 of President Trump
00:19:10.440 for the election
00:19:11.700 in 2024.
00:19:13.220 And by the way,
00:19:13.900 that scandal
00:19:14.720 that John Eastman
00:19:15.980 is talking about,
00:19:16.840 ladies and gentlemen,
00:19:17.820 right now,
00:19:18.600 we're in the eighth year
00:19:19.780 of the political persecution
00:19:21.220 of President Donald Trump.
00:19:24.000 We're coming right back
00:19:25.000 with John Eastman.
00:19:25.960 We're going to talk
00:19:26.540 about the situation
00:19:27.540 in Georgia,
00:19:28.600 the special counsel,
00:19:29.500 and we're going
00:19:30.100 to talk about
00:19:31.040 the left's efforts
00:19:32.880 to shut down
00:19:34.580 John Eastman's speech
00:19:36.840 and freedom of speech
00:19:38.600 and more
00:19:40.300 when we continue here
00:19:41.640 on The Great America Show.
00:19:42.620 We'll be right back.
00:19:43.300 We are back
00:19:50.360 with John Eastman.
00:19:51.680 John, let's turn
00:19:52.660 to the president's
00:19:53.640 situation now.
00:19:55.220 Under indictment,
00:19:56.120 four indictments,
00:19:57.120 I've lost track
00:19:58.380 of the number of charges.
00:19:59.520 I know that if he were
00:20:00.520 convicted of all of them,
00:20:01.640 it would amount
00:20:02.080 to 700 years.
00:20:04.560 And I'm sure
00:20:05.600 that the Marxist Dems
00:20:06.880 wouldn't be satisfied
00:20:07.880 with that,
00:20:08.540 even if that were
00:20:09.420 to be the result
00:20:11.180 of it all.
00:20:11.760 give us your assessment
00:20:13.600 of what is going
00:20:14.520 on here.
00:20:16.740 It looks to,
00:20:18.240 I think,
00:20:18.540 most of us
00:20:19.140 as if the Marxist Dems
00:20:21.120 have a monopoly
00:20:22.300 on what they call
00:20:25.220 lawfare,
00:20:26.340 in which they are
00:20:27.060 just trying to destroy
00:20:28.420 everyone they can
00:20:29.580 with these egregiously
00:20:32.220 abusive lawsuits
00:20:33.700 based on
00:20:34.500 really novel,
00:20:36.780 is the kindest way
00:20:37.780 I can say it,
00:20:38.500 novel theories
00:20:39.680 of what is the law.
00:20:41.140 Well, you know,
00:20:42.120 and we don't have to
00:20:43.160 speculate about that.
00:20:44.100 They've said as much.
00:20:45.460 The head of one
00:20:46.700 of these outfits
00:20:47.360 called the 65 Project,
00:20:49.660 this is a group
00:20:50.760 that was funded,
00:20:52.120 well-funded,
00:20:52.920 and created
00:20:54.280 in order to go
00:20:55.080 after all
00:20:56.260 of the attorneys
00:20:57.640 that did anything
00:20:58.620 on behalf
00:20:59.400 of President Trump
00:21:00.260 after the 2020 election,
00:21:01.920 all of the litigations
00:21:02.960 that were filed
00:21:03.540 and what have you.
00:21:04.380 As I understand it,
00:21:05.260 111 complaints
00:21:07.240 for bar discipline,
00:21:08.940 bar disbarment proceedings
00:21:10.440 have been filed.
00:21:11.700 The head of that organization
00:21:12.920 in a very important interview
00:21:14.120 with Axios
00:21:14.900 said,
00:21:15.760 look,
00:21:15.920 our goal here
00:21:16.500 is not just
00:21:17.040 to disbar these people,
00:21:18.700 it's to make them
00:21:19.420 so toxic
00:21:20.180 in their law firms
00:21:21.160 and in their communities.
00:21:22.620 That right-wing legal talent
00:21:23.960 will never want to take on
00:21:25.420 these election challenges again.
00:21:27.360 In other words,
00:21:27.900 what they're trying to do
00:21:28.680 is clear the path
00:21:29.580 for even further fraud
00:21:30.780 and illegality
00:21:31.560 down in the future
00:21:32.600 and scaring people away
00:21:34.780 from ever taking on
00:21:35.740 those representations
00:21:36.580 for fear of what it'll do
00:21:37.620 to their livelihoods
00:21:38.560 and their families.
00:21:39.900 And that's why
00:21:40.960 I'm fighting against it so hard
00:21:42.560 because this is a threat
00:21:44.400 not just to those of us
00:21:46.060 that were trying
00:21:47.280 to have these serious issues
00:21:50.080 litigated
00:21:50.680 but it's a very threat
00:21:52.220 to our adversarial
00:21:53.100 system of justice.
00:21:54.260 If you bar one side
00:21:55.980 from having representation,
00:21:57.760 you have destroyed
00:21:58.380 the notion
00:21:58.880 of adversarial system
00:22:00.420 of justice
00:22:01.020 and you give the other side
00:22:03.200 of carte blanche
00:22:03.900 to do whatever they want.
00:22:05.440 The same thing
00:22:06.120 is now moved
00:22:07.100 into the criminal arena
00:22:08.240 with very creative
00:22:10.000 interpretations
00:22:10.780 of federal criminal law
00:22:12.180 or state criminal law
00:22:13.680 in order to brand
00:22:15.160 political opponents
00:22:16.120 as if they are criminals
00:22:17.300 for doing the same
00:22:18.860 kind of things
00:22:19.560 that the Democrats
00:22:20.560 did in 2000
00:22:21.740 and 2004
00:22:22.740 and 2016
00:22:24.020 but all of a sudden
00:22:25.500 now it's criminal.
00:22:27.500 The guy that they brought in,
00:22:29.920 Jack Smith
00:22:30.380 at the federal level,
00:22:31.920 he was the one
00:22:32.840 that went after
00:22:33.420 the governor of Virginia
00:22:34.480 on a very creative
00:22:35.900 use of federal
00:22:37.760 criminal statutes
00:22:38.740 and the Supreme Court
00:22:39.900 slapped him down
00:22:40.740 nine to zero.
00:22:42.260 That's pretty rare
00:22:43.300 on hotly contentious issues
00:22:45.960 that you get
00:22:46.480 a unanimous decision.
00:22:47.600 But they brought him
00:22:49.040 in anyway.
00:22:50.600 It's like the Al Gore
00:22:52.740 team in 2000
00:22:54.500 bringing in Richard Daley
00:22:55.820 to head the efforts
00:22:57.100 down there.
00:22:58.020 Send a strong message.
00:22:59.920 We're going to steal this
00:23:00.840 if we need to.
00:23:01.660 Bringing Jack Smith in
00:23:02.760 is we're going to do
00:23:04.200 whatever it takes
00:23:05.300 to find a law,
00:23:07.420 to distort a law,
00:23:08.360 to stretch a law
00:23:09.200 in order to treat this
00:23:10.240 as if it's a criminal matter.
00:23:11.400 One of the lawyers
00:23:13.100 on my team
00:23:13.820 is Harvey Silverglate
00:23:14.980 who 15 years ago
00:23:16.360 published a very important book
00:23:18.100 called Three Felonies a Day,
00:23:20.100 How the Feds Target the Innocent.
00:23:22.780 We've got so many
00:23:23.900 vague criminal statutes
00:23:25.040 on the books
00:23:25.660 that if they want
00:23:27.160 to be creative
00:23:28.000 and distort
00:23:29.480 what the meaning
00:23:30.200 of the statute is,
00:23:31.360 any one of us
00:23:32.180 can be charged
00:23:32.780 with three felonies a day.
00:23:34.140 That's the premise
00:23:34.860 of Harvey's book
00:23:35.620 and we're seeing it
00:23:36.420 play out in live
00:23:37.980 real time here.
00:23:39.100 We are.
00:23:40.620 And we're also watching
00:23:42.400 a lot of victims
00:23:43.420 being persecuted
00:23:46.500 is the only word
00:23:47.520 I can think of,
00:23:49.200 hounded, harassed,
00:23:51.500 and every hour
00:23:53.880 the persecution
00:23:55.020 results in another fee
00:23:56.660 for an attorney
00:23:57.620 or a scalp,
00:24:00.980 a notch
00:24:02.220 for the prosecutors.
00:24:04.580 And it's really,
00:24:05.940 it's obscene
00:24:06.640 what is happening.
00:24:07.460 You can't get a fair choice.
00:24:08.480 I say this
00:24:09.940 almost daily.
00:24:11.500 No American
00:24:12.480 can get
00:24:13.260 a fair trial
00:24:14.280 in the United States
00:24:15.140 of America right now.
00:24:16.280 It's so bad.
00:24:17.700 Lawfare
00:24:18.260 is not about
00:24:19.720 any,
00:24:20.300 it has nothing
00:24:20.800 to do with justice.
00:24:21.680 The Justice Department
00:24:22.520 has nothing to do
00:24:23.380 with justice.
00:24:24.280 It is about enforcing
00:24:25.760 the left-wing
00:24:27.060 Marxist agenda
00:24:29.140 and enforcing it
00:24:31.360 with all the blood
00:24:33.760 they can manage
00:24:35.220 to create
00:24:36.680 hate and pain.
00:24:38.320 It's a horrible moment
00:24:40.100 in American history
00:24:41.060 and I think
00:24:41.860 most people
00:24:42.360 are oblivious to it.
00:24:44.260 Well,
00:24:44.320 and even if they
00:24:44.880 don't get the scalp
00:24:45.760 at the end of the day
00:24:46.600 and one hopes
00:24:47.320 at the end of the day
00:24:48.800 that there's at least
00:24:49.500 one person
00:24:50.060 on that D.C. jury
00:24:51.120 or that Fulton County,
00:24:52.520 Georgia jury
00:24:53.200 that will understand
00:24:54.360 what's going on
00:24:55.160 and refuse to vote
00:24:56.060 to convict
00:24:56.700 or that the judge
00:24:58.260 in my California
00:24:58.980 bar trial
00:24:59.720 will see
00:25:00.460 and faithfully
00:25:01.140 apply the law.
00:25:01.980 But even if
00:25:03.280 they don't get
00:25:03.840 the scalp,
00:25:04.540 the costs imposed
00:25:05.720 on the people
00:25:06.340 that are the targets
00:25:07.200 of this is immense.
00:25:08.560 I mean,
00:25:08.760 I've already incurred
00:25:10.560 over a million dollars
00:25:11.620 in legal fees
00:25:12.480 defending in 14
00:25:14.800 different actions
00:25:16.060 and counting.
00:25:18.700 You know,
00:25:19.200 we had one
00:25:19.800 filed out of
00:25:20.760 North Carolina
00:25:21.600 up in D.C.
00:25:23.180 I was the lead
00:25:24.380 defendant named in it.
00:25:25.560 Why, I don't know.
00:25:26.400 But along with
00:25:27.340 Rudy Giuliani
00:25:28.200 and, you know,
00:25:30.220 several of the members
00:25:31.220 of Trump's family
00:25:32.140 and Fox News
00:25:33.260 and several Fox commentators
00:25:34.860 and also Mark Zuckerberg.
00:25:36.560 I think the guy
00:25:37.100 didn't get the memo
00:25:38.180 on which side
00:25:38.780 of this fight
00:25:39.240 he was on.
00:25:40.360 But one of the allegations
00:25:41.660 they made against me
00:25:43.000 was that I was
00:25:43.820 a billionaire oligarch
00:25:45.180 trying to undermine democracy.
00:25:47.600 My wife kind of laughed.
00:25:48.680 Are you,
00:25:48.880 you got to fund someplace
00:25:49.900 you're hiding from me?
00:25:51.260 So, but, but, you know,
00:25:52.840 what they're trying to do
00:25:53.940 is bankrupt us
00:25:55.080 so that we will not
00:25:56.720 and other,
00:25:57.660 more importantly,
00:25:58.200 other people
00:25:58.820 will not stand up
00:25:59.840 to fight against
00:26:00.560 this tyranny.
00:26:01.900 And luckily,
00:26:02.900 I've got a high enough
00:26:04.160 profile that people
00:26:05.300 are helping
00:26:05.800 with my legal defense fund.
00:26:07.500 And if you don't mind,
00:26:08.180 I'll give that out.
00:26:09.020 It's give,
00:26:09.660 give, send, go.com
00:26:12.420 slash Eastman.
00:26:13.960 And the benefit
00:26:14.840 of that site
00:26:15.560 was twofold.
00:26:16.380 One, unlike
00:26:17.500 GoFundMe,
00:26:19.300 it wouldn't have canceled me,
00:26:20.380 you know,
00:26:20.700 two minutes into this thing.
00:26:22.040 But two,
00:26:22.760 people can also send prayers
00:26:24.220 to me and my family
00:26:25.260 through that site.
00:26:26.320 My wife and I read them
00:26:27.560 and they're heartwarming.
00:26:28.900 Most of them are.
00:26:29.660 Some people, you know,
00:26:30.460 I pray you got rotten hell.
00:26:31.980 You know,
00:26:32.180 they kind of distort
00:26:33.520 the very notion of prayer.
00:26:36.040 But, but most of the people
00:26:37.160 on there
00:26:37.680 have sent wonderfully
00:26:38.760 heartwarming notes
00:26:40.080 of support
00:26:40.720 and those,
00:26:41.520 and those help
00:26:42.140 in the,
00:26:42.900 in the more troubling moments
00:26:44.020 we deal with.
00:26:44.620 But the financial resource,
00:26:46.020 or their goal
00:26:46.540 is to drain
00:26:47.280 our financial resources,
00:26:48.800 our retirement,
00:26:50.080 and send a message
00:26:50.900 that how dare you
00:26:52.020 have challenged us,
00:26:53.160 the government,
00:26:53.640 and how dare anybody else
00:26:56.280 step up to challenge as well.
00:26:58.880 We'll do to you
00:26:59.880 what we're doing to Eastman.
00:27:01.120 And they're,
00:27:01.600 and they're trying to silence
00:27:02.860 the political right,
00:27:04.520 the conservative legal movement right.
00:27:06.780 They're trying to silence people
00:27:08.240 so that they have a free hand
00:27:09.820 to do whatever they want
00:27:11.220 with activist judges unanswered.
00:27:14.360 And I'm not willing
00:27:15.080 to let that happen.
00:27:15.960 And I know you're not either, Lou,
00:27:17.280 and I suspect a good portion
00:27:18.520 of your audience
00:27:19.160 is not either.
00:27:20.340 We need to fight this
00:27:21.180 with everything we've got.
00:27:23.020 Absolutely.
00:27:24.340 And give us the address again.
00:27:28.300 GiveSendGo.com
00:27:29.620 slash Eastman.
00:27:31.440 And we also use that site
00:27:33.100 to kind of post
00:27:33.920 insightful articles
00:27:35.580 that are talking about
00:27:36.580 what's going on.
00:27:37.500 We use it as kind of an update.
00:27:39.480 And then there's a new site
00:27:40.860 that's been created
00:27:41.760 by a professional operation
00:27:43.160 that I have.
00:27:43.840 I'm sorry,
00:27:44.520 I can't remember the name of it.
00:27:45.400 It may be John Eastman
00:27:46.160 Legal Defense Fund as well.
00:27:48.460 But the give, send, go
00:27:49.640 or just Google
00:27:50.440 John Eastman Legal Defense Fund
00:27:52.020 and you'll find it.
00:27:53.300 And those monies go directly
00:27:54.760 into the fund
00:27:56.480 that helps pay the legal fees.
00:27:58.640 And as I say,
00:28:00.200 they're mounting very quickly.
00:28:02.760 The lawyers down in Georgia,
00:28:04.860 most of the month
00:28:05.560 that I talked to
00:28:06.240 wouldn't even touch this
00:28:07.100 without a million dollars up front.
00:28:08.920 These are the kind of things
00:28:09.820 we're dealing with.
00:28:10.860 And, you know,
00:28:12.220 I've at least got the ability
00:28:14.720 to make a nationwide pitch
00:28:16.420 to help.
00:28:17.680 You know,
00:28:17.960 I feel so sorry for the people
00:28:19.400 like some of these electors
00:28:20.540 who are just ordinary citizens
00:28:22.320 that, you know,
00:28:23.520 are now implicated,
00:28:24.680 like the electors up in Michigan
00:28:26.320 who have been criminally charged
00:28:27.500 for doing nothing different
00:28:28.940 than John Kennedy's electors
00:28:30.560 did in Hawaii in 1960.
00:28:33.560 So they had a telethon last week.
00:28:35.660 I did a five-minute appearance
00:28:37.200 on it to help them.
00:28:38.100 But people need help
00:28:39.800 to pay their legal,
00:28:41.080 their significant legal expenses
00:28:42.600 as we try and push back
00:28:44.040 against this lawfare.
00:28:45.180 And you're absolutely right.
00:28:46.080 It's lawfare.
00:28:47.000 It's warfare,
00:28:48.340 manipulating
00:28:48.980 and abusing
00:28:50.060 the system of law
00:28:51.140 that has been
00:28:51.900 such a great mainstay
00:28:53.140 in our freedom
00:28:53.860 in this country.
00:28:54.700 And, you know,
00:28:55.700 and a model
00:28:56.300 for around the world.
00:28:57.080 And they are destroying it.
00:28:58.440 We're going to continue
00:29:00.420 our conversation
00:29:01.280 with John Eastman
00:29:02.280 and talk about
00:29:04.340 in some detail
00:29:05.520 what is happening
00:29:06.360 in the state of California.
00:29:08.480 The bar there
00:29:10.060 has brought
00:29:10.460 a disciplinary action
00:29:11.700 against him.
00:29:13.100 And ladies and gentlemen,
00:29:13.740 I want you to know
00:29:14.440 when John is describing
00:29:15.540 what's happening
00:29:16.260 to attorneys in this country,
00:29:18.340 lawyers who would,
00:29:20.100 not that their philosophy
00:29:21.820 or their ideology
00:29:22.720 or their party
00:29:23.440 is conservative
00:29:24.300 or Republican,
00:29:25.240 but just simply,
00:29:27.080 just simply representing
00:29:28.800 anyone who is on
00:29:31.180 the side of Trump,
00:29:32.680 who is a conservative,
00:29:33.920 who is a Republican,
00:29:36.440 is enough
00:29:37.160 for a major law firm.
00:29:38.980 Big law won't put up
00:29:40.900 with it in this country.
00:29:42.180 And it is a sure end
00:29:44.040 to careers in big law
00:29:46.960 if they do.
00:29:48.380 It is really quite
00:29:49.660 a moment in history.
00:29:51.580 And John is going
00:29:52.260 to explain more of it
00:29:53.300 to us as we go forward.
00:29:54.500 But I want to tell you
00:29:55.300 it was one who has
00:29:56.020 witnessed it up close
00:29:58.660 and personal.
00:29:59.840 It is absolutely barbaric.
00:30:04.160 It is beyond anything
00:30:07.120 that one would have imagined
00:30:08.440 could happen in America.
00:30:09.900 We're talking with
00:30:10.540 John Eastman.
00:30:11.520 Stay with us.
00:30:12.200 We'll be right back
00:30:13.060 after these quick messages.
00:30:20.000 We're back.
00:30:21.000 We're talking with
00:30:21.780 attorney John Eastman.
00:30:23.160 And John is facing
00:30:24.860 an effort to discipline him
00:30:28.060 by the California Bar Association,
00:30:30.100 as I understand it.
00:30:32.620 John, let's get to,
00:30:34.360 I think, everyone.
00:30:35.580 And certainly,
00:30:36.160 I would appreciate
00:30:37.120 telling us
00:30:38.600 how long this disciplinary action
00:30:40.900 has been going on
00:30:42.080 against you.
00:30:42.740 Well, it began
00:30:44.320 with a complaint
00:30:45.400 that was filed
00:30:46.200 by this hyper-partisan group,
00:30:47.820 States United Democracy Center,
00:30:50.120 who, you know,
00:30:51.660 we're never a client,
00:30:52.600 we're never opposing counsel,
00:30:53.860 we're never involved
00:30:54.540 in any litigation
00:30:55.380 I was ever involved in,
00:30:56.580 but they just filed
00:30:57.740 a complaint against me
00:30:58.740 in October of 2021,
00:31:01.140 so almost two years ago.
00:31:03.120 The Bar,
00:31:03.880 unbeknownst to me,
00:31:05.100 began investigating that.
00:31:06.480 They publicly disclosed
00:31:07.980 their investigation
00:31:09.020 in March of 2022
00:31:10.880 under a theory that,
00:31:14.840 because investigations
00:31:16.020 are supposed to be confidential
00:31:17.380 until charges are filed,
00:31:19.060 and they disclosed it anyway
00:31:20.680 on the ground
00:31:22.240 that I was a threat
00:31:23.200 to the public,
00:31:24.600 which is rather extraordinary.
00:31:27.140 And then in May,
00:31:29.580 they sent me
00:31:30.180 the most extraordinary letter,
00:31:32.380 38 single-spaced,
00:31:34.620 38 pages, single-spaced,
00:31:36.440 demanding essentially
00:31:37.880 that I provide
00:31:38.780 every bit of evidence
00:31:39.740 I had for every statement
00:31:41.120 I'd ever made,
00:31:42.400 every brief I ever filed,
00:31:44.240 in any way related
00:31:45.480 to the 2020 election.
00:31:47.540 And I spent
00:31:48.880 three to four months
00:31:50.220 comprehensively responding
00:31:52.460 to that.
00:31:53.480 They had claimed
00:31:54.360 I had no evidence
00:31:55.340 of illegality or fraud
00:31:57.180 or no evidence
00:31:58.940 to base my advice
00:32:00.020 to the vice president,
00:32:01.180 what have you.
00:32:02.800 And I, you know,
00:32:03.900 I comprehensively responded.
00:32:05.220 I took them at their word
00:32:06.680 that if I had an answer
00:32:08.160 for everything,
00:32:09.280 that there would be
00:32:10.120 no charges filed
00:32:10.980 as there should not have been.
00:32:12.640 That didn't faze them.
00:32:14.160 They then,
00:32:14.660 in January of 2023,
00:32:18.240 filed a,
00:32:19.460 hmm,
00:32:20.180 I forget how many pages it was,
00:32:21.920 11 counts,
00:32:23.100 85 paragraphs,
00:32:24.500 something like that,
00:32:25.860 notice of disciplinary charges.
00:32:28.100 And almost every single paragraph
00:32:29.960 had false statements in it.
00:32:32.000 One of them, for example,
00:32:33.040 said Eastman claimed
00:32:34.540 in his speech
00:32:35.360 on the Ellipse
00:32:35.980 on January 6th
00:32:37.540 that dead people voted.
00:32:38.920 That was,
00:32:39.640 that was false
00:32:40.420 and he knew it to be false
00:32:41.560 because as the Attorney General
00:32:42.780 of Michigan has said,
00:32:43.680 only 1,500 dead people voted.
00:32:45.380 In other words,
00:32:46.300 in the very same paragraph,
00:32:47.600 they accused me
00:32:48.240 of making a false statement.
00:32:49.980 They acknowledged
00:32:50.800 that the statement was true.
00:32:52.820 This,
00:32:53.080 this,
00:32:53.380 this goes on
00:32:54.600 in paragraph
00:32:54.980 after paragraph
00:32:55.760 after paragraph.
00:32:56.580 and then
00:32:58.200 we filed
00:32:59.880 112 page response
00:33:02.400 to that
00:33:03.740 and it didn't faze them.
00:33:05.340 Trial was scheduled
00:33:06.120 in May
00:33:07.240 and they realized,
00:33:08.220 you know,
00:33:08.600 the breadth.
00:33:09.300 I mean,
00:33:09.480 they want me basically
00:33:10.540 not just to defend
00:33:12.200 everything I did,
00:33:13.400 but to defend everything
00:33:14.740 any other lawyer
00:33:15.760 working in other states
00:33:17.160 on behalf of President Trump
00:33:18.460 and states I had nothing
00:33:19.440 to do with did.
00:33:20.840 And so
00:33:21.180 they,
00:33:22.300 they,
00:33:22.540 they got a delay
00:33:23.600 until June.
00:33:25.000 We had two weeks
00:33:25.740 of trial in June,
00:33:27.220 an additional week
00:33:28.640 of trial in August.
00:33:30.300 And we're now
00:33:31.780 in the second week
00:33:32.820 of trial in September
00:33:34.140 and it's likely
00:33:35.360 we're going to have
00:33:36.280 at least another week.
00:33:38.640 So six or seven
00:33:40.120 maybe weeks
00:33:40.960 of trial
00:33:42.100 is,
00:33:43.160 you know,
00:33:43.640 in a bar proceeding.
00:33:45.460 And,
00:33:46.140 you know,
00:33:46.320 of course,
00:33:46.680 you know,
00:33:46.940 I've got teams
00:33:47.720 of lawyers,
00:33:48.500 I've got,
00:33:49.020 you know,
00:33:49.600 courtroom technicians,
00:33:50.800 I got all this stuff,
00:33:52.120 you know,
00:33:52.440 that are,
00:33:53.060 you know,
00:33:53.340 charged by the hour.
00:33:55.320 I mean,
00:33:55.540 you can imagine
00:33:56.180 the fees that are
00:33:57.100 getting racked up.
00:33:58.200 And you can also
00:33:58.880 imagine the fees
00:33:59.780 that are being incurred
00:34:00.980 on the other side
00:34:01.880 because they've got,
00:34:03.040 we have no idea
00:34:03.880 how deep their bench is
00:34:05.760 and we know for a fact
00:34:07.540 that some of the
00:34:08.580 major law firms
00:34:09.640 are providing assistance,
00:34:10.980 whether they're being
00:34:11.720 charged for that
00:34:12.980 or paid for that
00:34:14.460 or just doing it,
00:34:15.280 you know,
00:34:15.660 pro bono,
00:34:16.180 we don't know.
00:34:17.880 But,
00:34:17.980 you know,
00:34:19.480 the amount of money
00:34:21.020 they're spending
00:34:21.660 to try and say
00:34:23.020 that my claims
00:34:24.160 about election
00:34:25.360 and legality
00:34:26.080 are something
00:34:26.600 no reasonable attorney
00:34:27.800 would have ever brought
00:34:28.680 and therefore
00:34:30.440 he should be disbarred.
00:34:33.060 I mean,
00:34:33.340 just,
00:34:33.680 I mean,
00:34:33.840 think about that.
00:34:34.680 This is unprecedented
00:34:36.040 and yet that's what
00:34:37.920 we're dealing with.
00:34:39.600 It's just so
00:34:41.720 outside the bounds
00:34:44.300 of even just basic logic,
00:34:46.360 common sense
00:34:47.060 and common decency
00:34:48.800 that this would be happening
00:34:50.400 in this country.
00:34:52.200 California,
00:34:52.820 I will admit,
00:34:53.580 is often considered
00:34:54.660 a little different part
00:34:56.320 of the country
00:34:56.920 than the rest,
00:34:58.720 but it's the California bar,
00:35:01.820 right?
00:35:02.580 It's the California bar.
00:35:03.700 It's fairly unique.
00:35:04.480 It has a dedicated bar court
00:35:06.540 unlike most bars
00:35:08.100 that just have panels
00:35:09.000 of local attorneys
00:35:10.360 that sit in assessment
00:35:11.420 of disciplinary charges.
00:35:13.500 And look,
00:35:13.880 most times the bars
00:35:15.300 deal with improper relationships
00:35:18.420 between attorney and client
00:35:19.900 or attorneys
00:35:20.760 who have,
00:35:22.300 you know,
00:35:24.300 tapped into their client trust funds
00:35:26.080 or other kind of financial things.
00:35:28.660 And those things
00:35:29.440 usually get resolved
00:35:30.420 without a trial
00:35:31.880 or if it goes to trial,
00:35:33.040 it's usually a day or two.
00:35:34.480 But the notion
00:35:35.760 that we're going to be
00:35:37.180 six or seven weeks
00:35:38.500 in full trial
00:35:40.060 on these charges,
00:35:43.760 you know,
00:35:44.700 even if I am exonerated
00:35:46.900 at the end of the day,
00:35:48.320 as I think any faithful application
00:35:50.980 of the law would require,
00:35:53.100 even if that,
00:35:54.180 I mean,
00:35:54.400 the amount of money
00:35:55.100 that I will have devoted
00:35:56.600 to defending my bar license
00:35:58.160 is just insane.
00:36:00.200 And it doesn't
00:36:02.320 in any way
00:36:03.360 assure you
00:36:04.400 that there won't be one
00:36:05.700 to follow on the heels of this.
00:36:08.480 Well,
00:36:08.720 it could be persecution
00:36:10.240 in perpetuity.
00:36:11.480 It could be.
00:36:12.480 It could be.
00:36:13.200 And my wife and I,
00:36:14.360 you know,
00:36:14.920 there have been ups and downs
00:36:16.200 on this two and a half year
00:36:17.280 rollercoaster ride,
00:36:18.220 I got to tell you.
00:36:18.940 But after one of the
00:36:20.540 particularly low moments,
00:36:21.660 my wife and I
00:36:22.580 kind of woke up together
00:36:24.020 one morning
00:36:24.580 and come to the realization
00:36:26.480 that my whole life,
00:36:28.860 my whole career,
00:36:29.700 my whole devotion
00:36:30.400 to constitutional law,
00:36:31.680 my teaching constitutional law,
00:36:34.080 my participating
00:36:35.600 in more than 200 cases
00:36:37.240 before the Supreme Court
00:36:38.080 of the United States,
00:36:38.820 my serving as a dean
00:36:39.860 of a law school
00:36:41.100 has probably equipped me
00:36:43.080 better than almost
00:36:43.960 anybody else in the country
00:36:45.120 to deal with these things
00:36:46.320 and to confront them head on.
00:36:48.640 And my fortitude
00:36:51.600 kind of equips me
00:36:53.140 to want to do that as well.
00:36:55.100 So, you know,
00:36:56.500 this is the position
00:36:57.900 I've been thrust into.
00:36:59.560 And I hope and pray
00:37:01.480 that I'm up to the task,
00:37:03.240 but we're certainly
00:37:03.780 giving it our best.
00:37:05.360 It is a absolute slur
00:37:07.480 that these people
00:37:09.200 would be conducting themselves
00:37:10.820 that way
00:37:11.300 in the California Bar Association.
00:37:13.500 Is there not,
00:37:14.440 is there not an authority
00:37:16.480 of some sort
00:37:17.620 that exists
00:37:18.260 in our legal system
00:37:19.660 that says,
00:37:21.320 we were watched
00:37:22.860 a president
00:37:23.540 persecuted for eight years
00:37:25.500 without any finding
00:37:26.620 of wrongdoing
00:37:27.440 on any level,
00:37:29.500 who is being persecuted
00:37:31.300 by local
00:37:34.960 and state prosecutors
00:37:36.840 for obvious
00:37:37.860 partisan purposes?
00:37:40.780 Is there not
00:37:41.980 someone decent enough
00:37:44.260 and strong enough
00:37:45.720 and who has
00:37:47.460 the respect
00:37:48.440 of enough people
00:37:49.120 to stand up,
00:37:50.120 whether it's
00:37:50.580 Chief Justice John Roberts,
00:37:52.000 whether it is
00:37:52.860 the deans
00:37:54.360 of law schools
00:37:55.260 around the country,
00:37:56.400 whether it is
00:37:57.280 a corporate leader,
00:38:01.560 a religious leader
00:38:02.900 who can say,
00:38:03.800 this has to stop.
00:38:06.640 This is madness.
00:38:08.100 This is a nation
00:38:09.180 that is in the midst
00:38:10.220 of an emotional
00:38:11.160 and psychological break.
00:38:14.040 It's got to stop.
00:38:16.040 Is there such a person?
00:38:17.660 It does have to stop.
00:38:18.720 One of the things
00:38:19.240 we've learned
00:38:19.700 in the past
00:38:20.400 is that the only
00:38:21.380 way it stops
00:38:22.800 is that the shoe
00:38:23.820 ends up on the other foot.
00:38:25.520 The independent prosecutor
00:38:26.700 statute that was deployed
00:38:28.240 against Ronald Reagan
00:38:29.220 and so many of his aides
00:38:30.680 in the 1980s,
00:38:32.580 that was allowed
00:38:33.520 to expire
00:38:34.340 after it ended up
00:38:35.500 being deployed
00:38:36.040 against Bill Clinton
00:38:36.920 as well.
00:38:38.840 What we're seeing now
00:38:40.460 will stop
00:38:41.340 if Republicans
00:38:42.660 get back in power
00:38:43.780 and decide to do
00:38:44.940 the same things
00:38:45.820 to the other side
00:38:46.980 and then that will stop.
00:38:48.620 But the left,
00:38:49.400 if they in fact
00:38:51.180 stole the election
00:38:51.940 in 2020,
00:38:52.800 as I certainly believe,
00:38:55.220 they're not worried
00:38:56.920 about the shoe
00:38:57.700 being on the other foot
00:38:59.000 because they think
00:38:59.720 they've managed
00:39:00.760 to stop it ever
00:39:01.640 from happening that way.
00:39:03.280 And that's why
00:39:04.300 I'm fighting so hard.
00:39:05.220 If that's true,
00:39:06.640 then we no longer
00:39:07.440 control the direction
00:39:08.260 of our government
00:39:08.880 and the very foundational
00:39:10.660 cornerstone
00:39:11.620 of our republic,
00:39:14.040 the consent
00:39:14.560 of the governed
00:39:15.200 is gone.
00:39:16.360 We will cease
00:39:17.180 to be citizens
00:39:18.060 in a free republic
00:39:20.000 and we'll become
00:39:21.120 subjects of an everly,
00:39:22.600 increasingly,
00:39:23.340 tyrannical government.
00:39:24.620 That's what the fight
00:39:25.480 is about.
00:39:26.040 It's much bigger
00:39:26.720 than my bar license
00:39:27.740 or even President Trump.
00:39:29.860 It is about
00:39:30.680 whether we're going
00:39:31.240 to remain a free people
00:39:32.200 or not.
00:39:33.100 And that's why
00:39:33.860 so many people
00:39:35.300 around the country
00:39:36.000 are stepping up
00:39:36.700 to support me
00:39:37.480 and supporting
00:39:38.260 President Trump.
00:39:39.200 So many people
00:39:40.060 around the country
00:39:40.740 in their hometowns
00:39:41.940 are starting
00:39:42.880 to have eyes
00:39:43.660 on their local
00:39:44.400 election officials
00:39:45.240 to at least stop
00:39:46.480 some of the illegality
00:39:47.680 that we saw go on
00:39:49.560 in the last election.
00:39:51.120 But I don't know
00:39:52.720 whether it will be enough.
00:39:54.180 These habits,
00:39:56.400 these illegalities
00:39:57.480 are so well entrenched now.
00:39:59.080 But we're doing
00:39:59.920 what we can
00:40:00.460 to expose them
00:40:01.280 and hopefully
00:40:01.720 that will be enough
00:40:02.540 to secure
00:40:03.200 and restore
00:40:04.540 free systems
00:40:05.600 of election
00:40:06.120 and therefore
00:40:06.960 free government
00:40:07.620 in this country.
00:40:09.100 Free government
00:40:10.060 in this country.
00:40:11.400 John Eastman,
00:40:12.180 I hate to be the one
00:40:13.080 to say this
00:40:13.800 at the conclusion
00:40:14.920 of our fascinating
00:40:16.500 conversation here.
00:40:19.600 You've illuminated
00:40:21.000 so much for us
00:40:21.900 and we're in your debt
00:40:23.580 for doing so.
00:40:25.000 But I have to be
00:40:26.560 straightforward
00:40:26.900 with this audience.
00:40:28.520 I don't want anyone
00:40:29.400 to forget
00:40:29.960 that every agency
00:40:31.520 of every department
00:40:33.000 in the federal government
00:40:34.160 is under the control
00:40:35.600 of the Marxist Dems.
00:40:37.240 This administration
00:40:38.000 has brought in
00:40:38.780 what any of the estimates
00:40:41.240 range anywhere
00:40:41.800 from 8 to 15 million
00:40:43.560 illegal immigrants
00:40:45.120 in the course
00:40:45.740 of two and a half years.
00:40:47.420 We've never seen
00:40:47.980 anything like this.
00:40:49.520 The insistence
00:40:50.900 on vaccine,
00:40:51.760 they're already
00:40:52.300 started the drumbeat
00:40:53.740 for mandatory vaccinations
00:40:55.740 that will surely come
00:40:57.960 if they can find
00:40:59.000 even the suggestion,
00:41:02.000 the intimation
00:41:02.740 that the virus
00:41:04.080 is upon us again.
00:41:06.520 Mandatory masking,
00:41:07.980 which everyone
00:41:08.920 has debunked
00:41:09.920 as absolutely useless.
00:41:13.460 It's a government
00:41:15.720 that is absolutely
00:41:17.260 under the control
00:41:18.020 of the Marxist Dems,
00:41:19.220 the authoritarian left,
00:41:21.220 the Marxist Dems,
00:41:22.740 and that's what
00:41:23.200 this party has become.
00:41:24.940 I just want to say
00:41:26.540 we need to help
00:41:28.320 John Eastman
00:41:29.220 and his defense fund.
00:41:30.400 The address again
00:41:33.080 is
00:41:33.380 givessingo.com
00:41:36.260 slash
00:41:37.380 Eastman
00:41:38.140 and we're going
00:41:38.980 to put that up
00:41:39.540 on the website.
00:41:40.080 We'll have it there
00:41:40.980 and we'll be talking
00:41:41.900 about that
00:41:42.660 legal defense fund
00:41:43.960 for John Eastman
00:41:44.800 for days to come.
00:41:47.120 John Eastman,
00:41:47.620 thanks so much
00:41:48.120 for being with us.
00:41:48.860 You're a great American
00:41:49.700 and God bless you
00:41:51.280 and prevail
00:41:52.480 in this great fight
00:41:53.620 for yourself
00:41:54.540 and the country.
00:41:56.140 Thank you, Lou.
00:41:56.680 Thanks for having me on
00:41:57.500 and thanks for all
00:41:58.060 the great work you do.
00:41:59.760 John Eastman,
00:42:00.520 former attorney
00:42:01.400 to President Trump,
00:42:02.800 also one of the 19
00:42:04.040 indicted by the Marxist
00:42:05.580 District Attorney
00:42:06.400 Fannie Willis.
00:42:07.720 Again,
00:42:08.380 you can help John
00:42:09.440 in his legal fight
00:42:10.540 by going to
00:42:11.740 givessingo.com
00:42:14.040 slash Eastman.
00:42:15.960 That's donating
00:42:17.000 to givessingo.com
00:42:19.600 slash Eastman.
00:42:21.720 Thanks everybody
00:42:22.380 for being with us tomorrow.
00:42:23.600 Our guest is
00:42:24.220 Congressman Matt Gaetz.
00:42:25.980 Please be with us tomorrow
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00:42:38.640 Thanks everybody.
00:42:39.780 God bless you
00:42:40.480 and may God bless
00:42:41.900 and save America.
00:42:43.820 Thank you.