MARXIST DEMS AND DEEP STATE BROUGHT DOWN AN IRON CURTAIN OF DISINFORMATION ON OCT. 14, 2020 THAT CHANGED AMERICAN HISTORY
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The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs, John Paul McIsaac, Corey Mills, and Adam Schiff join me to discuss the latest in the Joe Biden vs. Adam Schiff saga, and why the Democratic Party should be embarrassed.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. Welcome, everybody.
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A lot to talk about today, and you've probably noticed that Joe Biden is day by day, week by week,
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introducing all of us to what America would look and feel like when he gets his way and reduces us,
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finally, to a third world nation. He's certainly trying hard enough, and he's making, unfortunately,
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considerably progress. Empty store shelves, illegal immigrants crossing our border at record high
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levels. At the current rate, by the way, we're talking about 5 to 7 million illegals in this
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country in just the next year. Gasoline prices at all-time highs headed higher still. $6 a gallon
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gasoline now in prospect. We have that runaway inflation that Trump warned us about. Our capital
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markets are having fits, as we can plainly see every day, and Biden has done almost everything
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he could have over the past year to get us into a war with Russia, and he wants to give Ukraine another
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$50 billion to support the Ukrainians, and no one asking why he's doing that. The Republicans are
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going along with him. Why are the Republican rhinos going along with him? We'll be taking all of this
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up with Republican congressional candidate Corey Mills. Tours in Iraq, Afghanistan, a small
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businessman, and we talked with Mills here today. But first, I want to bring in John Paul McIsaac
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to find out where he is in his effort to get justice from those who've caused him to lose his computer
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repair shop, who he says defamed him and cost him his livelihood, all because of the so-called laptop
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from hell. The Hunter Biden laptop that the president's son left off at his shop for repair.
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And that laptop is one of the reasons, the principal reasons, that the FBI, the DOJ, and Attorney General
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Bill Barr knew that Joe Biden was lying in the third presidential debate in 2020. And they allowed
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Biden to change history and to become president. That laptop is still making history, and so is
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John Paul McIsaac. Great to have you with us, John Paul. Great to talk with you again, John Paul
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McIsaac. And since we last talked, you've got a lawsuit now that's rolling out against various
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entities, including CNN and others. Where do you stand with this lawsuit right now?
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Well, I, you know, first off, thank you so much for having me back on the show. I'm excited. I,
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I suffered a pretty substantial defeat against Twitter when I tried to hold them accountable for
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labeling my actions as hacking. And they, they punished me pretty hard financially. So I, I just
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figured that my, my opportunity to defend my actions and hold those accountable in a court of law was
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just evaporated last summer. So I was, I was just overwhelmed in April when Joe Flynn, General Flynn's
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brother, uh, from the America project, uh, stepped up, reached out to my lawyer and offered to fund our
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lawsuits. And we had been planning the Adam Schiff lawsuit for, well, quite some time. Um, it was just
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a matter of really funding. And with that taken out of the picture, now we can be focused in on,
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on holding these people accountable and, uh, basically getting to the bottom of who gave them
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the marching orders. That's what I want to know. I want to get to discovery and I want to figure out
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who told these people and let's go to prepare. Let's go to Adam Schiff and get clarification.
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You said with them out of the way, uh, what do you mean?
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Well, so Adam, Adam Schiff decided to go on CNN, uh, and tell the entire world that
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this laptop was an operation conducted by the Kremlin. And the ramifications for that,
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for me personally, coming from a military family, who's the entire, my, my entire family's time in
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the United States has been served in the air force or the army air Corps. And to have the label
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traitor, because when you basically imply that I worked with a foreign power to affect the outcome
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of a election, you're labeling me a traitor. And to have that tied to my name is just, I won't stand
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for that. So I've, I've had my crosshairs on, on Schiff for a while. It's just with, you know,
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Twitter leaving me financially devastated. Uh, I never saw that as an opportunity. So it's,
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it's getting to, to hold these people accountable is now my number one goal.
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So you're, you're still planning to go ahead with a lawsuit against Schiff. Is that correct?
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Yes. Yes, absolutely. And, and let's go through who all are you right now,
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either, uh, naming in your lawsuit or targeting, uh, give us a sense of just how broad your lawsuit is
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So, uh, CNN obviously, uh, perpetuated a lot of the narrative, uh, Politico, uh, took the,
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the letter that was penned by the 51 pillars of the intelligence community and where it clearly
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stated in the letter though, they don't have any evidence that this was Russian, uh, origin that,
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you know, they, they alluded to it. Politico decided to run with that narrative and they,
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they pushed it. So they, those two were the big news outlets that decided to, uh, push that specific
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narrative. Um, a lot of the other MSNBCs and a lot of those other, uh, institutions, they, they,
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uh, I want to, what is it called the Rachel Maddow defense where, you know, nobody's going to take
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them seriously because they're commentary and whatever they say can't be, you know, grain assaulted.
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So it's, it's going to be hard to push the narrative with that. We're hoping that the,
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the big, the big entities responsible, CNN and Politico, uh, that getting to discovery will reveal
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more and, uh, more importantly, who, who instructed them or who gave them that narrative in the first
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place. The daily beast for a long time. And I believe still today has, uh, uh, had on their
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website, uh, references to the laptop being stolen, which would imply that I'm a thief. So that's,
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uh, that has to be put an end to as well, because I'm neither a Russian nor a hacker. I'm definitely
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not a thief. And, uh, at any time, did you demand an apology or a retraction from any of these people?
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Uh, yeah. Yeah. I pretty much from day one, uh, my lawyer, uh,
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was putting out cease and desist and retractions and requests for amendments. And, you know,
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a lot of those were ignored. So as we proceed here, what are the next steps in that lawsuit?
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Well, um, there's, there's a couple of things that have to happen first. Uh, I, I can't really go
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into too much detail about that right now. Uh, we're hoping to add some additional, um,
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individuals. Uh, so we have to, uh, we have to kind of reconvene this week to, to figure that out.
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So we're not done. Um, this is definitely getting some attention, which is what we want.
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Uh, I want personally to put pressure on these people and hold them accountable. So
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any, any step to get there, in my opinion is, is a step in the right direction. And, uh,
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we have some exciting things coming. That's all I can talk about right now.
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Well, that's, that's wonderful news for you and for the, for, for the American people,
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because we want justice done for you, uh, because you have been, uh, absolutely, uh,
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an innocent in this who's been taken advantage of, uh, and it has to be, it has to be corrected
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and put right. And that's one reason for the courts, uh, to do just that. Let me ask, first of
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all, I guess, after knowing, talking with you, knowing what you've gone through, why just a
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million, uh, are what a lot of people are asking right now, why not more than that for, for all the
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pain, uh, uh, you know, what is the expression pain and suffering? I mean, you've gone through an
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extraordinary life experience here, uh, that, uh, was less than pleasant. I'll put it that way.
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You know, I think a lot of this changed for me on October 14th when
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the iron curtain of disinformation descended on the story. And with, with the truth being blocked,
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so was my ability to tell the truth. And I realized that this is so much bigger than me.
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This was a collaborative effort by such a broad range of big tech and government entities that
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to, to shut down a story. And from that point on, I justice changed for me. It wasn't about
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clearing my name. It was more about this can't ever happen again. We've put way too much faith in our
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mainstream media and we trust them. We put so much reliance on our technology where, you know,
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I read a Pew report that said something like 86 or 84% of people get their news through their
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digital devices. And if somebody's controlling or putting a filter over those devices, we need to know
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because this was an important story with, you know, obviously a consequence towards me, but
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the consequences for the whole nation and justice for me now looks like as long as this never happens
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again, that's going to be justice. Sure. Holding these people accountable, opening the eyes to the
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other half of the country that had the wolf pulled over them, that's going to be justice. And I, I'm,
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I'm for me, it's not about the money. It really was never about the money. Like if it was ever about
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money for me, I, and I was a different person, I would have sold that laptop to a tabloid. I would
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have, you know, sold it to somebody. I would have done something. This has never been about money.
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I've refused money. And I didn't even want to open up a fundraiser before my friend had to convince me
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to do that because we've realized that book sales aren't going to happen for like six months to a
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year. I'm going to start to death. So it's kind of one of those things. If this is about money,
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I would have made it about money a long time ago. For me, this is about getting to the bottom
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of who told everyone because at six 30, the article in the morning, the article came out by
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nine 30 in the morning, three hours later, there was a complete shutdown of the story. That's not
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something that happens on a telephone game. When somebody sees a story and then calls their buddy
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to tell them we need to follow the line. This was prepared for, they were ready and this can't happen
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again. So I'll do whatever I can. And if the lawyers want the money, they can have the money.
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Um, for me, it's about getting to the bottom of this and getting to the truth. So we don't have
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to go through this again. Well, I, I profoundly respect your view and your, your opinion, uh,
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and your values. And I think that's commendable. Um, I, then I look over at a headline. Have you seen
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Hunter Biden now teaming, uh, with a Hollywood attorney to quote unquote, investigate the leak of his
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laptop? Have you seen those stories? I have, and I'm a little concerned that he's kind of throwing
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money away at this point. Um, the like Hunter's lawyer, George Becerra's called me up at the shop
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on October 13th, the eve of the story breaking and asked me if I was still in possession of the laptop.
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So obviously Hunter's lawyer back in October of 2020 knew that there was a laptop and where it was
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because he called me up asking for it. I told him what the FBI told me to tell him, which was to
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stall them and tell them that was offsite and give me 24 hours and collect their information.
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So yeah, I don't understand why there's this big mystery. Uh, it's been very well documented.
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The FBI has a paper trail for the existence of the laptop and where it ended up. Unfortunately,
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they can't figure out where it ended up after that, but at least, I mean, I have a subpoena
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and then if they need any help whatsoever, I could save a lot of time and money. I've been
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pretty good at documenting this entire interaction. I just have a funny feeling they're not going to
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reach out to me. Yeah. Uh, I, you know, I just have to say, when I look at those stories,
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I think to myself, is this, uh, some sort of, uh, predicate they're creating, uh, to go after
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you? Have your attorneys talked to you about that possibility? You know, I don't think I've
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done anything wrong. Uh, the multiple times I've interacted with the FBI, they've never
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alluded or showed any concern that I've broken the law in any way, shape or form. Um, I'd lawfully
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took possession of that product and I handed it over the, to the authorities. And then I
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ultimately handed over a copy to the lawyer for the president of the United States. That's the end
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of my involvement. And that's been thoroughly documented. Uh, I'm more concerned about the
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documentary that this individual is going to be working on that those two showcase Hunter's life
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since the bombshell story broke, that was squashed. Um, because that creating a documentary,
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uh, can, it's basically creating a narrative and then to turn around and have people like Nina,
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who's the governance board czar, uh, who has declined, uh, denied the Hunter Biden's laptop's existence.
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You know, the combination of the two is like now there's a government entity that can give
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legitimacy to this documentary. So I'm more concerned that they're trying to rewrite history
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and then use got newly appointed government resources to make that, that narrative.
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Well, let me, let me give you my opinion and you consider it, uh, for what it's worth,
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but you were just talking about all the filters they put over everything, uh, in public media,
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social media, big tech, uh, corporate media, and the curtain descended in, and a car curtain
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of darkness descended over your story. Uh, and this laptop from hell in, and nothing flat
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9 30 AM Eastern time. And we're dealing with a president and Joe Biden who wants to put another
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filter on top of all the filters that you've just mentioned here on this show. And it's called the
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disinformation governance board. And it is precisely for the purpose of giving government
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the power to decide what is true and what is false. And it is one of the ugliest things that
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we've seen develop. And we've seen many examples of ugliness, uh, and surrounding the first amendment
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in this country. This is the ugliest effort I think so far, your thoughts about that.
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Well, I, it's the first step in making 2022 look like 1984. It scares the hell out of me because
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now anybody can write a narrative, can create their own version of the story. And then the government
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has a way to rubber stamp it. And I discovered that not only was the suppression of the story
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affecting me directly because I was being dragged into a narrative that I had nothing. I wasn't a
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Russian. I wasn't a hacker and I wasn't a thief, but the unforeseen consequences were I had no way to
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retaliate. I could not use, nobody could use social media to defend my actions. The story couldn't be
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talked about. So only the one narrative was being pushed. And like I produced YouTube videos that were
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shadow banned, my ability to use these tools, it was a one way street. It was their information
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coming downstream. And I lacked the ability to defend myself using their tools. This puts another
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layer above that, where the story will be allowed to be told by those who deserve to tell it and
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anybody else will be silenced. And that should scare the hell out of everyone.
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Yeah. But I get the sense that it doesn't scare you because you're talking about these people as
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if they were nice folks and that you're, you know, you're just because you didn't break a law
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or just because you told the truth was a sufficient defense against government and social media,
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a conspiracy between the intelligence agencies of this country, a political campaign. And we've seen
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what's happened. They have pursued for seven years, Donald J. Trump as a candidate, as a president,
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and post-presidency. It is, and he has immense resources. And against an individual citizen without
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those resources, it is a, it is a, it should be, I think, a very frightening moment. And anyone in that
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context should look for as many shields, swords, uh, and defenses as he or she can find because they
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are fabricating charges and they are fabricating, look at what they're doing to the January six
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people. Uh, you know, Kevin Klein Smith, an FBI attorney falsified a document and got one year of
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probation. Uh, you know, Brandon Strzok did nothing. He stood outside the Capitol building with his camera
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for eight minutes, didn't touch anyone, didn't talk to anyone and did nothing. He is on three years
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probation after a plea deal with these rabid ideological, uh, crazed persecutors and prosecutors.
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I just, I don't think innocence is any longer a defense. I really don't. Yeah. But the truth though,
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that's the thing is I, I don't feel, I feel confident because I have such support from
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all corners of this country. Like that, that has given me the strength to realize,
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oh, I got a lot of momentum behind me. This is going to lift me up and this is going to give me
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the courage to continue this fight. We, I have the truth. I have the facts and I was taught that,
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you know, the truth will set you free and the Saxons don't lie. It's so, I'm, I have nothing
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to worry about because I have faith. I know I have a large portion of the country behind me
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and, uh, I, and I have the truth on my side and I'm not going to give up. I think, I think that's
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no one wants you to give up by the way. There should, there'll be lots of possibilities and
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choices to make, but, uh, far more in the middle range of give up and prevail. Uh, I believe you
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will prevail, but I believe you're going to face difficult choices because think about it. I mean,
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there's some irony in this, uh, Joe, uh, you know, the facts matter, Joe Flynn, uh, is your attorney
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working for you? His brother, the truth was his defense too. He was framed by the FBI for crying out
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loud. It can happen to anyone and very quickly and very, very, uh, viciously. And that's, that's why I
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made a copy of the drive. I had witnessed what happened to Roger Stone in January of 2019.
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I knew that the, the, the proper channel was the FBI. I believe in the system. I just didn't trust
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the system because I had seen the system be weaponized for so many years. And I, and I guess
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that's why I wasn't really surprised when I got labeled a Russian because that seems to be their
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MO and whoever's doing their marketing is horrible. They need to be fired because they need to come up with
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some new, a new enemy because this, this Russian thing's getting old.
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It's very generous of you, John Paul, to, to give counsel to the, to the enemy. But I have to tell
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you, the enemy right now is not giving you counsel, uh, nor are they giving you in any way, uh, comfort
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or relief, uh, from, uh, what they have planned for this country. I want to, I want to turn to that issue,
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uh, of their going after you. Uh, we know that Joe Biden, uh, is, uh, obviously a man with great,
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uh, great conflicts in his past, his business dealings, his political office and authorities
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and responsibilities over the years. We have on that doc on that laptop, sufficient documentation
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that this, any investigation of this, that was principled and above board and ethical would have already
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resolved into charges, at least from what I know. Uh, can you believe that it's taken the Delaware
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U S attorney four years to come up with a grand jury and still, still not be nearing, apparently I, uh,
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a resolution. You know, it's, it's not, it's not surprising to me. Uh, you know, the, the fact that
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the investigation was well into two years and they decided not to announce the investigation until
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after the election, because they were afraid that it would, might affect the election. Well, that kind
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of, that kind of explains why you did it. I just, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that, uh, one of
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Hunter Biden's former associates is involved. Uh, it's, I'm not, I wasn't surprised when, uh, Biden
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appointed somebody for the, uh, a friend for the FEC. And then they turned around and said Twitter was
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not involved in any form of election interference, which in my opinion, blocking an important story
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that had an outcome on the election would be considered election interference in any other
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same world. But we, you know, this is what they do. They stack the deck and they put their friends in
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high places to cover people that do them favors. And it's, it's crystal clear. It's a two tiered system
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of justice. It's, I've seen it for quite some time. Now I'm experiencing it firsthand. And I think
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the best we can do is just inform as many citizens as possible. So the next time we go and vote,
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we can make an informed decision based on what's right for the nation and it'll fix itself. I'm a
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repair guy. You know, I can't help, but I can't help, but want to try to fix something because
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replacing it, you know, it's been around. I love the constitution. These guys thought it up 246 years
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ago. I think they did a good job. I think they, they saw into the future a lot further than our
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politicians see today, but it doesn't mean we can't do it again. We can't continue. I have faith
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in the system. You have faith in the system, but we just went through an election, which you know
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better than anyone else that the president, the then former vice president, uh, Joe Biden lied to the
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American people in the third debate about the laptop that you were in possession of for a time
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about its contents that you were in possession of still, I believe. And I guess I'm correct on that.
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And, uh, the head of the FBI, that is the attorney general is the head of the justice department,
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the chief law enforcement officer in charge of the FBI decided not to intervene and tell the American
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people, the truth, the very word that you use that would defend us all the truth. The truth wasn't
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brought to bear and, and our 50 intelligence officers and five former CIA ads allowed their
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names to be used in the biggest lie in campaign history. And I can't for a moment say to this
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audience of the great America show that I will believe for a moment that truth is enough, that
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innocence is enough. We've got to get engaged. We have got to change our attitude. And I agree with
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you, John Paul, uh, the constitution has it right. Our founders had it right, but we have solid, we have
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solid, uh, nearly every value and we have to restore those values, those founding values to primacy in
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the way in which we conduct ourselves as Americans in this great constitutional Republic. Uh, and by the
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way, that means we have to work together and we need to come together. And right now we haven't done
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that and we're not near it. Your thoughts. Yeah, there's a lot there. Um, I, again, I, I think it's
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better to, to repair than replace. I think that you have to wait. Well, let me be, let me be clear.
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I'm talking about repairing. I'm not talking about replacing. I'm saying that the founding values are the
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founding values. The constitution is the founding document and it will be forevermore as long as we
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defend it. As Benjamin Franklin said, a Republic, if you can keep it in responding to what kind of
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government, but do you have, and this is what we had. I'm not sure we can still say that with absolute
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100% assurance. Well, we can fix it. And I think like we've demonstrated over the past couple of
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centuries, uh, if we stand up and we raise our voice, we can make change. And I, if this is what I
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have to do, if this is a part of that to initiate that change, then this is what I do now for a
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living. This is what I have to do. And I, I, I, I, I, again, I have faith in the system. The system's
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broken. So we got to fix it. Sometimes you got to watch something fail before you can see exactly
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how to fix it. There's 51 intelligence guys. You lost all our credibility, all of it. You know,
00:27:19.420
a lot of them moonlight on MSNBC and NBC and CBS. So it's kind of, you know, their credibility
00:27:27.100
is damaged and we have to spread the word on that and it's working. So then we move on to the next
00:27:34.120
group who question their motives. If somebody's telling you something and they're swearing by it
00:27:41.000
and they have a track record of lying to you, then you look at it and with a, with a different
00:27:45.940
optic. It's, it's going to take some time, but we can't, we can't do what they do. They play dirty.
00:27:51.860
They cheat. They bend the rules. They stack the deck. And that's not anything that I want to be
00:28:00.260
a part of. And that's why I feel like the best thing to do is just stick to the truth and that'll
00:28:06.260
set us free. Yeah. Um, so why didn't it in 2020?
00:28:10.500
Because it's broken and we've seen how, we've seen how broken it is. We've seen how they try to
00:28:17.800
cover it up. You know, they'll, they'll blame Dominion or they'll get a rumor started about
00:28:23.560
Dominion voting fraud and that distracts you from the ballot stuff. So that when the, when it comes
00:28:29.800
up in a Wikipedia article, Oh, it was all the conspiracies of the election. It all gets bundled
00:28:35.480
in and then flushed down the history toilet. So we need to, you know, and then, and then Dominion
00:28:41.540
gets to sue everybody and make, make lots of money. So it's, it's, well, let me be clear how they
00:28:46.920
operate. Dominion hasn't made any money yet. They're trying. Oh yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's a
00:28:55.340
diversion. It's how they hide things. They release fake stuff from the laptop to say it's from the
00:29:00.980
laptop. So it'll discredit the laptop. They have fake election fraud and then they get the real
00:29:07.520
election fraud hidden underneath its skirt. So that's, we're, we're learning so much. Every time
00:29:13.040
they lie to the American people, we learn more and it'll be, it'll come a point in time where they're
00:29:18.920
going to be out of tricks. And then we're left with honesty, integrity, and everything that's right
00:29:23.900
about this country. And hopefully the rest of the country will see that.
00:29:27.020
Well, I love your model of repair. I wish I could accept it as readily as you do, but I give you
00:29:35.920
great credit for all you've gone through, still believing in the system and still in the fight
00:29:42.200
against overwhelming corruption in this country. You know, you've done so much and I want to thank
00:29:48.300
you, John Paul. You've done so much trying to get this country to move from darkness to, to light.
00:29:54.360
Um, it's going to be, uh, I know, uh, a, a tough, tough battle in the, uh, days, weeks, and months
00:30:02.400
ahead. Uh, but I salute you for doing it. And we're going to be here to, we're going to cover your back
00:30:07.500
as best we can here on the great America show. Let me, uh, let me just say, as we turn to your
00:30:15.720
concluding thoughts, we always give our guests, as you know, uh, last word here. Um, I'd like to hear
00:30:21.960
you, uh, give us a sense of what you think this country is going to look like in five years.
00:30:29.560
Uh, well, hopefully mask free, um, hopefully less, less, less, uh, protesting and less, uh,
00:30:40.400
less upset people overall. You know, I'd, I'd like to get to a place that's actually,
00:30:44.620
uh, you know, where we, we can all focus on the things we agree on and then not fight over the
00:30:51.760
stuff we disagree on. How about abortion? Go back there. Like, Oh, well, you know, that's,
00:30:57.640
I am a white male. So not only am I a terrorist, but, uh, I have no, no place or opinion on that,
00:31:04.320
though. I value all life at, at all times. So, you know, it's, uh, but that's, that's,
00:31:12.960
that's the, there's always going to be opposition to opinions and thoughts and beliefs. And that's,
00:31:18.720
it's how we live together. That I think if we focus our attention and our efforts on,
00:31:24.460
then we'll realize that, Oh, well, you know, we're climbing the same mountain. We're just doing
00:31:28.420
it from different sides. How about border security? How about border security and illegal immigration?
00:31:35.460
I, I, I, coming from a grandfather that fought for this country before he was a citizen,
00:31:41.740
uh, it, it means, uh, immigration is very important to me and having a proper way to allow
00:31:49.200
individuals that want to be a part of this great country. I think an expediting way to do that,
00:31:56.600
uh, a safe and thorough vetting process. I think all these things are great, uh, procedures and
00:32:05.020
policies that need to be put in place to expedite the infiltration of honest, good people that want to
00:32:11.160
be a part of this country. And then for the rest, put a wall up. We, we started building it. It seemed
00:32:16.740
to work. Why, why stop? Walt walls work at Nancy Pelosi's house. They work at Joe Biden's beach house.
00:32:24.340
Why, why not? Why not stop? We would solve so many problems by just completing that wall.
00:32:29.380
I agree. So now with your concluding thoughts, I just wanted to put a few wedge issues in front of
00:32:36.240
you to see how you came down. And, uh, I appreciate your answers. Uh, now we'll, we'll turn to you,
00:32:43.680
John Paul, for your concluding thoughts on the day. And again, we appreciate you being with us.
00:32:49.280
Well, again, it's an absolute honor to be on the show. I want to just,
00:32:53.440
my thoughts every day is I can't believe I've made it this far and I can't believe I have so
00:33:00.120
much support. And this is a life I never even imagined that I would want. I hope I never get
00:33:06.500
used to it. Most of it makes me uncomfortable. I'm not, I'm an introvert. I like helping people
00:33:14.620
and this lets me fulfill that, that want by continuing to fight. But man, if it wasn't for
00:33:20.980
the support that I've received from, from complete strangers from all over this country,
00:33:25.100
I wouldn't be, I wouldn't have the strength to fight. So I just want everybody to know that's,
00:33:29.080
that's prayed for me, said a good word, donated to my, my give, send, go. Um, I, I, I will fight
00:33:38.420
and continue to fight because not only I do, I love my country, but everybody else does. And, and that's,
00:33:45.600
that's just the number one reason to fight. Well said, Paul, thank you very much. John Paul
00:33:52.840
McIsaac, a great American in the fight of his life. Uh, and it's, uh, it's a fight worth having.
00:34:00.360
And that's what makes it so important to him and to all of us as his fellow Americans.
00:34:06.040
And joining us now is the most endorsed Republican candidate running for Congress from the seventh
00:34:10.760
district of Florida. Corey Mills is an Iraq and Afghan war veteran, small businessman. And when
00:34:16.740
he tells you he can make liberals cry, believe him. Here's his most recent commercial running right
00:34:22.400
now. I'm Corey Mills, a U S army combat veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I came home
00:34:30.040
and started a company making riot control munitions for law enforcement. You may know some of our work.
00:34:35.280
And now the liberal media is crying about it. Corey Mills, soldier, conservative outsider.
00:34:46.180
I'm Corey Mills. And I approved this message because if the media wants to shed some real
00:34:50.760
tears, I can help them out with that. Corey Mills. Welcome back to the great America show.
00:34:57.380
The Florida primary is one of the latest in the country, August 23rd. Tell us how you think
00:35:03.620
your campaign is doing right now. Well, thankfully, I appreciate you having me back on. So we're
00:35:09.040
feeling really good about the race. As you know, we're the only Trump appointee who is running in
00:35:14.560
Florida's seventh district. We're currently the most endorsed candidate in the nation. We have over 16
00:35:19.580
sitting members, two senators. We were also endorsed by ACU and CPAC. We run in the lead with the cash on
00:35:27.780
hand and we're up in the polls, two, three points. We just started with our first media ad buy. So
00:35:34.360
we're the first to go up on media. So we think that we're going to see double digit jump in the
00:35:39.140
polls here very soon. So we're looking to turn what is right now a very crowded race into a one
00:35:44.940
person race very soon. Give us a sense of what going up on media means. What kind of messaging are
00:35:51.540
you doing? What kind of commercials are you running? So we just ran our first 32nd media ad buy. It's
00:35:58.900
running on Fox News here in the district. And what I'm responding to is a recent attempted hit piece
00:36:06.080
by Politico, where they ridicule me and my company for its support to our brave men and women in blue,
00:36:13.700
our law enforcement. And what it's in reference to is us supplying less lethal materials to our law
00:36:20.000
enforcement departments to be able to respond to the 2020 riots, the Antifas, the BLM writers who are
00:36:27.920
destroying businesses, threatening innocent civilians, vandalizing homes, shutting down economies. And,
00:36:36.280
you know, the so-called protest of love was anything but. And our brave men and women have
00:36:42.320
needed the less lethal options to be able to try and control those types of things from going on.
00:36:49.240
And so I was very proud to supply that. And I was attacked by our media, as well as for people
00:36:54.020
like Representative Cori Bush, even had a letter from the Congress oversight and committee and
00:37:01.360
committee of oversight and reform, excuse me. And to which they were asking which departments we supply
00:37:06.720
to, which is, in my opinion, none of their businesses. My response was, if you want to know
00:37:10.620
all the facts, go ahead and subpoena me. So I put up a recent media ad responding to the whining and
00:37:16.280
crying about our support and supply to our brave men and women. And I stand proudly to defend,
00:37:25.060
And as you suggested, that's going to be a very powerful message in your district. And what a
00:37:33.100
terrific thing that you can support our law enforcement officers in providing them a non-lethal
00:37:43.040
alternative. You would think that the left would be beside themselves with joy at that prospect,
00:37:49.160
rather than attacking you for providing that material to law enforcement. I mean, that's strange.
00:37:59.100
It's completely strange. The idea that you're going to vilify,
00:38:02.820
one, a business owner and military combat veteran, but also keep in mind that we employ over a hundred
00:38:09.400
Floridians. That's a hundred more people and a hundred more families that have back to work that
00:38:14.860
we never shut down during the actual lockdowns or the unconstitutional mandates. We support and
00:38:20.260
supply over 193 law enforcement departments across the country to include our Department of Corrections
00:38:25.900
and the Federal Department of Law Enforcement, not to mention that we also help with the training
00:38:30.320
and the validation exercises for our U.S. military. So I stand strong and proud of the idea that I'm
00:38:35.720
supporting the people who not only just keeps our communities and our streets safe,
00:38:38.700
but our nation safe. Give us a sense of where you stand on Ukraine, the Russian invasion of Ukraine
00:38:48.020
and the Biden administration now wants to raise the amount of money to ship to the Ukrainian government
00:38:56.080
to $40 billion. The original two weeks ago was going to be $33 billion. And even by those standards at
00:39:06.580
that moment, that's more than the rest of NATO combined is providing. What do you make of this
00:39:13.560
administration's apparent interest in expanding the conflict through this kind of aid and taking the
00:39:23.700
lead from the Europeans who should be, it seems to me at least, engaged and supporting Ukraine and not
00:39:32.480
relying on the United States as they did before Donald Trump to provide their national security?
00:39:41.980
Well, I'll tell you, the first thing I'll say is that if President Trump was still in power, this would
00:39:47.300
not be taking place. The China-Russia-Iran geopolitical alignment, which is essentially an axis of evil,
00:39:54.960
has seen the weakness. And that weakness was very easily saw through the botched Afghanistan withdrawal,
00:40:00.940
which, as you know, Lou, my team and I actually conducted the very first successful overland rescue
00:40:06.320
of Americans out of Afghanistan. We rescued a mother and her three children from Amarillo, Texas,
00:40:10.780
Congressman Jackson's district. But I'll tell you what this is, is not about the overtake of Ukraine or
00:40:18.360
the redrawing of lines to the former USSR. What this is about is Chairman Xi and Vladimir Putin's
00:40:26.100
One Road, One Belt initiative to expand the Eurasian border, to take over Africa and Oceania,
00:40:31.820
to recreate a maritime silk road, and to basically choke off supplies to the west by the Horn of Africa,
00:40:38.040
by the Mediterranean, the Red Sea, etc. But on top of that, their real ultimate goal, because they both
00:40:44.160
modified their constitutions to remain in power forever, is to take away the U.S. dollar from being
00:40:50.380
the global currency. And we see that with China, for example, who's already gone into Saudi Arabia and
00:40:55.240
already in discussions with OPEC to replace the petrodollar to the petro-wan. But our involvement
00:41:01.060
in this should not be kinetic. Yes, I'm happy with trying to sell the necessary defense aids to prop up
00:41:07.140
not only American economics, but also to support and go against Russia and their invasion.
00:41:13.420
But we need to look at the facts here. We should have, in 2014, when the Russians came across,
00:41:19.960
we should have already have looked at international sanctions and looking at the 1994 Budapest memorandum
00:41:26.080
that the Federation of Russia, the U.K. and Northern Ireland, the United States, and Ukraine signed up
00:41:32.620
to recognizing the sovereignty and the borders of Ukraine. And it was a nuclear non-proliferation
00:41:38.800
agreement, but it was to recognize their sovereignty, and that was violated. I was in Ukraine in 2015,
00:41:45.100
helping to work with a volunteer battalion called the Nipida Battalion out of the Nipida Kedrovsk.
00:41:49.540
And these are business owners and former military who were coming forward trying to fight the
00:41:54.740
aggressors who was the Russian military that came across in Donetsk and also had just annexed Crimea.
00:42:00.560
But I want to be clear on something. While I've fought multiple wars, I've spent seven years in
00:42:06.540
Iraq, nearly three years in Afghanistan. I am not for our interventionism. I am not for propping up
00:42:12.060
the military industrial complex or supporting the neocon and neoliberal lobbyists who are basically
00:42:18.100
poisoning Washington. We need to get back to an America first agenda. The idea that we're spending
00:42:23.200
$50 billion to Ukraine, but we can't give $5 billion to secure our southern borders is abhorrent
00:42:30.300
behavior. We've got porous open border policies. We've got soft on crime policies. We have 100,000
00:42:35.840
Americans a year who's dying from fentanyl overdoses, the human drug and sex trafficking coming across
00:42:41.860
that we're turning a blind eye to. And the border czar, Kamala Harris, never even has made an attempt to
00:42:47.240
go down there to see the real travesty. I was just down there seven days ago, Lou. I was in a little
00:42:52.640
place called Roma, Texas. And I kid you not, there was no wall, no fence, no barbed wire, no CBP ice
00:42:59.420
posts, no La Policia on the other side. There was ankle to knee deep water that you could cross 100 yards
00:43:05.640
from Mexico into America, and you would have came in completely unfettered. We are seeing an invasion.
00:43:13.440
And the idea that they're going to try to remove Title 42, which is going to see an increase of 18,000
00:43:18.540
migrants a day. And now they're still talking about $50 billion for Ukraine. It's nonsense, Lou.
00:43:26.160
It is nonsense. And the proximate, the proximate clear and present danger to the United States
00:43:33.760
is that unpoliced, insecure border. It is wide open to whomever wants to cross it.
00:43:43.080
Not only illegal immigrants, but terrorists and whomever makes a choice. And the administration
00:43:53.560
refuses to even acknowledge what a threat it poses to the American people and what the impact is on
00:44:01.820
the United States, the importation of all of this poverty, people who are uneducated,
00:44:08.960
lack skills coming to this country and being distributed around the country. We know not
00:44:17.100
where. It is the most amazing thing. 300 million people can't find out where 2 million in the first
00:44:24.600
year of this presidency went. We know they crossed the border, but where are they? Who are they? And
00:44:31.580
what are they doing? The biggest thing, and you touched on it, Lou, and you're 100% right. And this
00:44:37.480
is what people need to understand. You know, it's not just about the so-called refugees or asylum
00:44:43.120
seekers, but we had 23 people cross just last month that we captured that we know were on terrorist
00:44:49.720
watch lists. We know that there was four Yemeni-age, military-age males the month before who was on a FBI
00:44:56.020
terrorist watch list. We know in the month of December, we had 2,000 Russians and 300 Ukrainians.
00:45:01.580
who were crossing our borders. These are not asylum seekers, Lou. And if we're not cautious and we're
00:45:06.520
not careful, we're going to see another 9-11 happen in America. And the Republican Party,
00:45:12.060
of which you're a part, your leadership isn't doing a thing. And when it had an opportunity,
00:45:20.440
didn't stand up with President Trump. Give us your sense of whether or not there will be enough
00:45:27.960
Corey Mills in this new Congress rather than RINOs to make a difference in the direction of the country
00:45:38.140
Well, first off, I'll just go ahead and say that, you know, for too long, far too long, Republicans
00:45:43.680
fought not to lose and Democrats fought to win. And while that sounds the same on paper, it is two very
00:45:49.880
different strategies. We need to be fighting, not to just control the seat that we sit in, but to fight
00:45:56.000
for the American people, restore power, get back to constitutionality. And if you notice right now,
00:46:02.120
more military combat veterans are running for election in this office than ever before. All of
00:46:08.400
Congress is only made up of about 17% military veterans. Of that, even fewer combat veterans. And
00:46:15.720
these are the people who are thrusting us into these never ending wars. So I'll tell you, Lou,
00:46:20.160
I think that, you know, I tell people I'm a conservative first and a Republican second.
00:46:24.440
You know, I look at the conservative party as a repository or a vessel, which helps to store and
00:46:30.040
protect and preserve our conservative ideals. But if they're not going to do that, Lou, that's where
00:46:35.240
patriots have to rise. That's why I never intended to run for politics. I never wanted to be in
00:46:40.520
politics, but I won't be a politician and I will be a statesman. People who will act and not
00:46:45.580
just talk. We need more fighters in there to get shoulder to shoulder with true conservative
00:46:50.640
America first leaders like Congressman Jim Jordan. We need people in there who's fighting
00:46:56.520
like Congressman Mark Green, Congressman Ralph Norman. We need people in there like Congressman
00:47:01.660
Ronnie Jackson, who's a new conservative who is fighting hard for the America first agenda.
00:47:06.200
And I look to join them on the congressional floor so that we can take back America and secure
00:47:11.040
our borders and get back to domestic production, energy independence and an America first agenda.
00:47:16.600
And I have to say there's a I have a preference in this myself, and that is that we have more
00:47:24.480
veterans who are going to Congress, going to the Senate, because the saying that's become rather
00:47:32.940
cliched here of late is courage is contagious. I think that a lot of people in Congress right now
00:47:41.920
need to have those who've served this country in uniform for, if you will, example and for support
00:47:50.960
and encouragement to stand up and, as you say, be statesmen and to be principled and not to be
00:47:58.280
docile, milquetoast rhinos who are really more Democrat than they are Republican.
00:48:06.700
The era of the rhino is gone. It is dead. And we really need to replace rhinos with courage and
00:48:16.780
principle and energy. And that's one of the reasons I'm delighted you're running. And as you say,
00:48:23.100
all of the other veterans as well, running for Congress. Absolutely, Lou. And I'll tell you,
00:48:28.900
it's an honor to be able to serve. And the one thing about military veterans is that we swore an
00:48:34.240
oath. And in that oath, we all know it. We swear to provide and protect and preserve our constitution
00:48:40.220
against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Just because we take that uniform off does not mean
00:48:44.700
that oath expires. And that's why a lot of us are starting to come forward and say, what was it
00:48:50.340
that our brothers sacrificed for? What is our actual optimal goal here? And it's to preserve
00:48:56.020
and protect American citizens, not to protect and preserve the citizens of Ukraine or the citizens
00:49:01.420
of Mexico or Honduras. We are here for the American people and more elected officials need to be the
00:49:08.380
voice of those American people. And that's what I'm here for. And that's what I'm running for, Lou.
00:49:11.980
I know that you've set some high ethical standards for yourself. Tell the audience what you're doing.
00:49:23.100
So I truly believe that for too long, that both on the left and right side, they get elected into
00:49:29.340
office to enrich themselves and to really self-service, not public service. And that's
00:49:34.440
why I talk about the fact of being a statesman and not a politician. So I want to bring back what
00:49:39.420
it is to have public service. And the first thing I've pledged is I will not take a salary while I'm in
00:49:45.800
office. I will have our constituents in my district vote on an actual woman, child or veteran charity
00:49:52.320
every quarter for my check to go through and go to it. But we're going to take a step further,
00:49:57.080
something that should be permanent legislation. Far too often, you have politicians who know that
00:50:03.140
the legislation they're getting ready to pass directly manipulates stocks that they're buying,
00:50:07.320
selling and trading. We need to ensure that myself as well as for others, and I've already pledged
00:50:12.560
this. I will not, my spouse will not, and anyone who operates and works in my office will not be
00:50:18.700
permitted to buy, sell and trade stocks while I'm an elected official. If you and I were to do it,
00:50:24.000
Lou, right now, it would be called insider trading. There should not be a two-tiered system where elitists
00:50:29.400
and politicians enrich themselves off the American people. That stops now.
00:50:33.460
But I'm sure that the audience is pleased to hear you're setting a standard before even being elected
00:50:39.000
for all of Congress to follow. And that is in and of itself leadership. So I compliment you and I
00:50:48.980
thank you for doing that. I want to turn as well here as I know you're pressed for time, but I do want
00:50:56.420
to get your thoughts about what it's going to take to resolve Ukraine and what the Biden administration
00:51:04.980
should be doing in Ukraine rather than perpetuating a war that is obviously devastating Ukraine and its
00:51:14.360
people. Well, you talked about this earlier, Lou, and you're exactly right that the EU, the European
00:51:19.900
Union, should be the ones who are really the steadfast and largest supporters. And I give credit to the
00:51:26.020
UK and Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who has leveraged the biggest sanctions on three of the
00:51:32.480
five large state-owned banks in Russia, which has hurt a lot of the wealthy oligarchs. I do applaud
00:51:37.920
them for their efforts of going over there and trying to see and talk to Zelensky in their support.
00:51:42.620
But the issue is that you have nations like Germany, who over the last two decades have gotten rid of
00:51:47.460
their nuclear and coal energy and have become more and more dependent upon Russian energy. That's why they
00:51:53.400
were so much of an advocate for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that Joe Biden had given the green light
00:51:58.780
to. But America needs to be able to understand that Ukraine has a tremendous amount of resolve. Yes,
00:52:05.660
we definitely need to ensure that they have the necessary defense articles and defense goods to be
00:52:09.740
able to defend their sovereignty. But that doesn't mean that it has to come at the taxpayers' expenses here
00:52:14.740
in America. The EU, the United Nations Security Council, they should be reviewing the 1994
00:52:20.080
International Budapest Memorandum, an agreement that was in violation. They should be looking
00:52:25.700
against crimes of humanity and crimes against the people of Ukraine that was conducted by Vladimir
00:52:30.560
Putin. We need stronger sanctions, diplomatic isolation. We need to stop immediately the oil
00:52:36.580
independence and energy independence on them. We need to not even enter into the agreement for the
00:52:42.240
new Iran nuclear deal that Joe Biden's administration is going to use Minister of Foreign Affairs
00:52:46.680
Lavrov in Russia to be the mediator and negotiator. We need to ensure that we hold all adversaries
00:52:53.060
accountable like China and Russia. But I'll tell you, Lou, the best way to hold China and Russia
00:52:57.340
accountable is to increase domestic production at home, get back to energy independence, stop the
00:53:03.940
reliance and the funding of our adversarial nations who want to destroy us, that being China and Russia,
00:53:09.520
immediately like Indiana's law that has passed, prevent foreign ownership and purchase of American
00:53:15.700
farmlands. We have to understand that this is about economic resource warfare, and that starts at
00:53:23.080
Corey Mills, thanks for being with us on The Great America Show. We wish you continued success with
00:53:32.680
Thank you so much. It's great to be with the great Lou Dobbs, and it's always an honor to be on
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Great to have everybody with us today. Joining us here tomorrow will be Joel Pollack, Breitbart News
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Senior Editor at Large. We'll all be catching up on the spectacular, riveting first week of the
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government's jury trial of former Clinton campaign attorney Michael Sussman. Sussman is charged with
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one count of lying to the FBI, and this case is fundamental to all the charges that Special Counsel
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John Durham is expected to file in the weeks and months ahead. Russiagate being revealed as the
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hoax it was, the years-long attack on President Trump, the most successful political disinformation
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campaign and frame-up in American history. Please be with us for that, and Joel Pollack,
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here tomorrow. Till then, God bless you, and God bless America.