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00:00:33.700Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
00:01:00.580It took only 12 minutes for Trump to break Biden before he went on to his first tirade, got confused, lost.
00:01:08.560And then finally, Jake Tapper bailed him out. What do you make of it?
00:01:11.420Well, you know, when you think about it, we released a poll right before national poll, right before the debate that came out the day before, actually, where Trump was leading Biden in our poll 4644.
00:01:26.240He's been leading him in the national popular vote since 20, since September of 2021.
00:01:33.400And this was a this was a debate that Biden had to try to reestablish himself as a viable candidate for president.
00:01:43.100So he agreed to a debate that CNN would be the venue.
00:01:47.260We had no choice. It was all at Biden's, you know, it was his kind of gamble.
00:01:52.020He set it up. We would have CNN pick the moderators.
00:01:56.160And so you had, you know, Dana Bash and Jake Tapper, who long history being biased against President Trump.
00:02:03.340And, you know, they barred RFK because that would have been unfair.
00:02:07.180You would have four liberals attacking Trump instead of three liberals.
00:02:10.980But, you know, and Trump, the mic, they could cut him off.
00:02:14.360So no audience. So it was all to Biden's benefit.
00:02:20.560And ultimately, you got a better debate in that.
00:02:24.040You know, you have to give credit to Bash and Tapper.
00:02:26.820They ask questions because like when our survey was published, when we ask people the first or second issue, first or second choice for issues, they'd want to have asked.
00:02:36.800Inflation was the number one answer, 49 percent.
00:03:12.820You know, when you think of everything that Donald Trump has endured over the past couple of years or even while he was president with the impeachments, the fake impeachments, you know, they're trying to take away his wealth.
00:03:26.960The only crime that Trump committed was he's ahead in the polls.
00:03:29.660This year, they had a, you know, fake trial in New York where, you know, they rigged it up so that, you know, Manhattan jury on charges.
00:03:39.280No one's ever been charged or convicted over in Manhattan.
00:03:41.520You know, they said he was guilty, but it wasn't a fair trial.
00:03:47.740And then, you know, the bad part for Trump now is he's still ahead in the polls, all the battleground states, national vote.
00:03:54.980But if he stays ahead after July 4th, this Judge Marshawn, whose daughter is one of the leading political consultants for Joe Biden, he could end up putting Donald Trump in Rikers Island.
00:04:06.320I mean, it's just it's just surreal what's going on right now.
00:04:10.140You know, before we get into your poll and we're going to get into that monthly the M&A poll that you do every month.
00:04:14.680You know, why did nobody find it strange that we're now out of COVID, right?
00:04:21.460There's no more masks, no more mask mandates, no more social distancing.
00:04:25.120Why didn't nobody think it was odd that we had a presidential debate with no audience?
00:07:54.300Biden was running last night on a pledge to raise taxes.
00:07:58.220He wants to let the tax cuts expire that would put the country in a recession, if not a depression.
00:08:06.400And he's so Biden is taking a page out of Walter Mondale's book for 1984 and running on a massive tax increase that didn't work well in 84.
00:08:15.980It's not going to work well this year.
00:08:17.860And Trump, he wants to grow the economy.
00:08:20.740And Trump was very specific about revenues going up, about economic growth, about what he wants to do for the country.
00:08:38.600If tariffs are so bad and when Trump gets back in, he pledged that he would he wants to he wants to cut, you know, income tax and maybe raise tariffs on other countries on imports.
00:08:48.600If they were so bad and they're going to they're going to send this country into a recession, why has he left the China tariffs on?
00:08:57.680Yeah. And by the way, in our national poll that we had out before the debate, 62 to 27 percent, all voters approve of no federal income taxes on tips.
00:09:08.120That's that's the Trump proposal to help working people to help.
00:10:40.120What have you got for Kamala Harris and what have you got for Donald Trump?
00:10:43.220Well, we actually tracked the incumbents.
00:10:46.380So we've got President Biden's job approval in there.
00:10:51.220And he's a 41 approved, 57 disapproved.
00:10:54.900The important thing about this debate was, although Trump's ahead in the national polls and there's about 10 percent of the voters that are undecided,
00:11:02.920you have 14 percent that disapprove of the job that Joe Biden's doing that are not yet voting for Donald Trump.
00:11:09.740So there's more votes for us to go get.
00:11:12.760And what they saw last night should help many to make the decision that they have to vote for Donald Trump.
00:11:17.980And, you know, the CNN, they did their own panel survey of people online after it.
00:11:25.060And the people that watch, they said Trump won that two to one.
00:11:28.560Kamala Harris, by the way, Trump beats her even more than better than Joe Biden.
00:11:33.460She's the one thing about her is she's she's basically impeachment insurance.
00:11:38.580As long as she's around, Biden won't get impeached.
00:11:41.260But and and as far as President Trump goes, his numbers have improved.
00:11:47.040But we really haven't tracked his job approval because he's not president anymore.
00:11:50.840So but most voters, what I've seen in polls, most voters think he did a good job as president.
00:11:56.500He has a positive job approval and people, the majority voters approve his policies.
00:12:02.480But Joe Biden, who used to be somewhat liked, is now, you know, his favorable rating is only 42 percent.
00:12:11.320Just as unfavorable as 56. So it really matches up to his job approval.
00:12:16.020So, you know, people want a president who's going to do something for them.
00:12:20.340It's really not about the personalities of of Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
00:12:25.040We've got severe problems in this country.
00:12:27.240They think the economy is going to get worse.
00:12:28.760Sixty two to thirty one. Eighty four percent, but negatively impacted by inflation.
00:12:33.400Forty nine percent of all Americans to the point where they can't afford basic necessities.
00:12:38.640You know, you have. And by the way, with these prosecutions, Donald Trump, 62 percent of all voters agree that if they could Joe Biden can do that to Donald Trump, he can do it to any American.
00:12:50.240So they've got big problems and they want to feel you know, they want to go back to peace and prosperity.
00:12:56.780They want to feel safe in their communities. They want their dollar to be worth something.
00:13:01.160They want an end to inflation. They want to be able to afford to buy a new car, to buy a home, to basically be able to pay their bills without having to worry how they're going to get through to the next month.
00:13:11.700And that's what Donald Trump was speaking about last night. And Joe, it's just missing the point.
00:13:17.740You know, it's it's even in 2016 when when Donald Trump debated Hillary Clinton.
00:13:22.120Right. They were on rough grounds. They came out. I think they shook hands. Right.
00:13:26.380This time around, it seems that Trump has just had enough.
00:13:31.440You know, you hear people on the left, CNN last night, you know, melting down.
00:13:36.040Van Jones about to cry. Friedman from The New York Times today said he wept after after watching it.
00:13:42.640And, you know, you hear Republicans. Laura Trump was on Fox News after it.
00:13:46.600You know, they feel bad for him. And then they say, you know, we can't feel bad because this man, what he's done to President Trump after these persecutions is just disgusting.
00:13:55.940It's just not it's inhumane. The things that they've done to him.
00:13:59.760And it comes down to a point anymore where, you know, there's no being cordial.
00:14:03.360It's it's you know, it's do or die. They want Trump in jail for hundreds of years.
00:14:09.020And like you said, you know, in July, we're going to see if one chance sends Donald Trump to Rikers Island.
00:14:15.040It's it's a travesty and it's a disgrace.
00:14:17.260What what Joe Biden has turned his DOJ into, you know, and then the whole justice system against President Trump and his supporters.
00:14:26.180Absolutely. Absolutely. And when you think about it, President Trump, I've known him for a long time.
00:14:32.640And, you know, he's he's a very determined businessman, but he's handled all these persecutions with a certain grace and dignified defiance.
00:14:43.100And I often tell him is like, you know, the majority of voters now in the poll, they say that they that Biden wants to put him in jail to stop him from being president.
00:14:50.820I'm 54 to 31. But but I've told President Trump is, you know, he's going to try to make you the Nelson Mandela of America, where we've never seen this.
00:15:02.200It's unprecedented in the history of America. But he went through all these indictments, the mugshots, the the the the the trial, the purple.
00:15:11.360Or it's, you know, they're trying to humiliate him and break him.
00:15:16.300And he he's fighting, like he says, this is not about me. This is about you.
00:15:21.200He's fighting for the forgotten men and women of America, the ones who really realize that they could lose their jobs, like all the workers in Michigan, the ones who the ones who feel they could lose their homes because they can't afford it.
00:15:34.840The people who are being taxed to pay, you know, for student loans, for the privilege, who didn't ever went to college and just trying to get by every day.
00:15:43.580And and he he really cares about the working men and women of America.
00:15:48.280That's who he is. He's a businessman. He's an outsider. He's not from Washington.
00:15:52.380Doesn't like the swamp. And now the swamp is just going all out to stop him.
00:15:57.620And fortunately for us, the majority of Americans are responding and they realize this is their blue collar billionaire who's fighting for them, who wants to make sure that, you know, the America that have, you know, the promise of an American dream that takes care of its citizens.
00:16:14.680They get to live it. That's what he wants to do.
00:16:17.060We're talking with GOP strategist and pollster John McLaughlin will be right back. Stay with us.
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00:17:56.160All right, we're back with GOP strategist and pollster John McLaughlin.
00:18:02.380John, on Thursday night, you know, we heard CNN the morning after the debate.
00:18:06.860We heard morning Joe, who once said Trump was a threat to democracy and Biden will save democracy, now says Biden's a threat to democracy and we've got to get rid of him.
00:18:19.080Is it too late or will Joe Biden roll into November and weather the storm?
00:18:24.080Um, I, you know, I don't think they can get rid of him unless he voluntarily steps down and Joe Biden, you know, he and his family love him being president and I don't see them stepping down anywhere.
00:18:36.160I mean, this, he's got too much invested in persecuting Donald Trump.
00:18:40.160So, while the Democrats may be, you know, in a, in somewhat of a, a panic mode, um, they ultimately, it's not because they really care about Joe Biden.
00:18:52.700It's just that they want to stop Donald Trump.
00:18:54.460So, Donald Trump, you know, he destroyed him last night.
00:18:59.360If it was a, if it was a boxing match, uh, you would have had a, it would have been one of those events where the ref would have had to step in, call the fight, TKO.
00:19:08.500So, but, so the Democrats, but it's only one debate and it's 130 days to the election and we got to be concerned about ballot security with ballot harvesting.
00:19:17.640We got to be concerned with all the kinds of attacks that, you know, the Democrats and their allies will put on Donald Trump and especially the things that they say that aren't true.
00:19:27.440I mean, that's, it's unbelievable the way they, they, they'll chop his sentence in half, but they'll say that he said things before and even point out where fact checkers are saying, I mean, it was unbelievable.
00:19:37.740Biden went in the debate, talked about Charlottesville.
00:19:40.220The fact checkers are saying those, those quotes weren't true.
00:19:43.460You don't even, you don't even need a fact checker, John.
00:20:03.360And he's back to running the same playbook from 20 because, because quite honestly, he's, he can't run on his record and he knows Donald Trump had a great record, but you'd mentioned the justice system and how it's weaponized against president Trump.
00:20:15.280In your M&A poll this month, you asked if the justice department and FBI can be weaponized and prosecute president Trump for political motives in the future, they will prosecute other political opponents.
00:20:34.420You know, the power of the FBI, they're seeing this and it's unprecedented in American history.
00:20:38.860I mean, I have European clients that work in democracies over in Europe and the ones in Central Europe who were in countries that were former Soviet states, satellites, they, captive nations.
00:20:50.320They say, this is what the communists did in 1947.
00:20:53.860They would come in, put on show trials, prosecute their political leaders.
00:20:58.820And, you know, it was, it's what the Marxists do.
00:21:03.260And Joe Biden, for some reason, has taken a page out of what the Marxists do or what, you know, Vladimir Putin does, what he did to Navalny.
00:21:11.340And he's trying to bring it to America.
00:21:14.120And, you know, people like yourself, people like Lou Dobbs, we get the message out for the truth.
00:21:19.500We're trying to protect liberty, trying to protect freedom, trying to protect the integrity of our justice system.
00:21:24.540But ever since Donald Trump got elected with the fake dossier, the impeachment over Ukraine, the fake impeachment, et cetera, it's been to cover up Democrat crimes, in effect.
00:21:35.580And, you know, the confidential documents, I mean, they said Biden couldn't be prosecuted because he's too old.
00:21:43.900I mean, you know, he either he committed those crimes or he didn't.
00:21:48.740And then you turn around and Donald Trump, who has the ability to say documents not confidential because he was president, Biden wasn't.
00:21:57.180But he gets he gets indicted by Jack Smith because Biden pushed Merrick Garland to point this guy to indict him on something that Biden's really guilty of.
00:22:07.320I mean, the American people see right through that.
00:25:30.620So, you know, it's like, on one hand, you know, you look at him, I'm sure he's older and elderly, unlike Trump, who's in great health and really sharp mentally.
00:25:42.320On the other hand, Biden is well enough to be ruthless, to be corrupt, to, you know, make sure these prosecutions against Trump happen.
00:25:58.540And they could be in legal jeopardy if they're not in control of the administration.
00:26:04.060And if Donald, you know, they're afraid if Donald Trump wins, you know, somebody might hold them accountable.
00:26:10.960But, you know, Trump, to his credit, when Hillary Clinton, you know, destroyed the server and all that, he didn't go after her after he beat the election.
00:26:19.800He wanted the country to come together and unite.
00:27:07.560They try to push back on it real quick, John, before we let you go.
00:27:11.060A massive ruling on Friday out of the Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision ruling that that 1512C charge that the DOJ overcharged all January or most January 6th defendants with.
00:27:25.080I think 350 copying to a plea deal over it, obstruction of official proceeding, Supreme Court ruling that they can now appeal it.
00:27:34.040And that 1512C charge is the same charge that Jack Smith has more than half of the charges on President Trump in D.C.
00:27:43.120It's political persecution from the beginning.
00:27:45.860That January 6th committee that they had in the House where it was all Democrats who were Trump opponents, plus two Republicans, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
00:27:56.600They were it was a kangaroo court and it was meant to give, you know, ammunition to the to the Democrat idea that you could bar your leading political opponent from running.
00:28:09.560What they wanted to do is use the 14th Amendment that say Trump was guilty of insurrection and knock him off the ballot because he's ahead in the polls.
00:28:18.820So this is what they do in communist countries.
00:28:21.300And this is what the Democrat Party's come down to because of Joe Biden's leadership.
00:28:26.740And the sad part is you got people who may have been misguided protesters who are lawyering, walking around the Capitol when they shouldn't have been.
00:28:35.420And they got charged with obstruction.
00:28:38.720Fortunately, there's enough, you know, real justices on the Supreme Court and in the federal court system that basically that could be, you know, that could be put away and said, you know, these people, it's just they should have never been prosecuted.
00:28:56.420And this is why we got that result in the poll, like 60, 20, 62, 27, the majority of Americans say if they get away with doing this to Donald Trump, they could do it to anyone with the FBI, the IRS, the Department of Justice.
00:29:08.900And it's a shame because people, they ruin people's lives with this.
00:29:13.900And and, you know, normal, normal people.
00:29:16.680Now, granted, there were some people that totally out of hand.
00:29:19.000But, you know, the Black Lives Matter riots, the riots in front of the White House, Seattle, Portland, they didn't Minneapolis, they didn't lock anybody up from those things.
00:29:45.660But you shouldn't make you shouldn't bend the laws or change the Constitution or use to manipulate the justice system for political reasons.
00:29:54.380And it was all about getting Donald Trump, which makes it even more important.