MCLAUGHLIN： LEADING GOP POLLSTER ON BIDEN’S FALL BY THE NUMBERS
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The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs and John McLaughlin discuss the Joe Biden White House, its incompetence and ineptitude, and the Democratic Party's desperate attempt to distract the American people from their own incompetence and incompetence.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Great America Show.
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Thanks for taking time to join us on the podcast. Thanks for your support.
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And we thank you for supporting truth, justice, and the American way,
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and in a big way. God bless you. I suspect you're as excited as I am to take on this
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administration's malevolence, because today, that's exactly what we will do. I don't know
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if you saw the White House and its desire, its deeply felt want to have Spotify do more to control,
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to constrain, to censure, perhaps cancel Joe Rogan. I haven't talked with Joe about all of this,
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but I think he's handled it extremely well, with sincerity, with clarity, and class.
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But that's not good enough, of course, for the Biden White House and a president who exhibits
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none of those qualities ever. This White House is a low-class, low-rent, snake-belly, low-operation.
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And now, President Biden is dispatching thousands of our troops to Eastern Europe
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after his disastrous withdrawal of our forces from Afghanistan. That was a national disgrace.
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It will forever be Joe Biden's legacy. And I think of the movie, Wag the Dog. It's obvious that the
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politicos and the Biden White House think that this is some way to distract the American people
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from his overall incompetence and ineptitude. It is not. It is infuriating to see him put our troops
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at risk, period. He and our Pentagon couldn't even handle a surrender to the Taliban with military
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precision, military order. And now he wants to scare Vladimir Putin by risking the lives of our troops
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in what is, without a doubt, a European matter. A European matter, Mr. Biden, not a U.S. matter.
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One that Biden himself inserted America into far too late to be effective diplomacy. And now he's
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inserting our troops without purpose or any prospect of success and deterring Russia, whatever
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Russia's goals may be. President Biden putting our troops at risk to preserve the Ukrainian border,
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but he leaves America's border wide open, unprotected, declares he will nominate a black
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female to the Supreme Court. Biden is pandering. He's playing pandering group and identity politics
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unconstitutionally. Two thirds of the country say the country is headed in absolutely the wrong
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direction. And President Biden is the one leading us there. This midterm election looks like it'll be
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one for the ages. Biden is a mess and he's made a mess with the help of the Pelosi-Schumer dream team of
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the Democrats' quickly dissipating hopes of retaining control of the Senate and the House this year.
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How bright are the Republicans' chances? How dim the Democrats' chances? With us today to assess all
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of that, leading pollster and GOP strategist John McLaughlin of McLaughlin & Associates with the latest
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polling for us. John, welcome back and great to have you on the Great America Show.
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Well, Lou, it's my pleasure to be here. And as you said, it's a good time to be a conservative
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Republican pollster, but I wish the election was tomorrow. There's too much time between now and
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November for the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But right now, Biden is giving
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the election to us. Oh, is he ever? And I'm not certain, I have to be honest here, I'm not certain the
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they have a tendency on occasion to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I want to talk about
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your monthly poll. It is, to me, always fascinating reading. But my gosh, this one is something else.
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I want to start with the results of the poll that shows just where Joe Biden is, if you will lead us
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through that. Sure. And, and it, by the way, it's, it's, let me tell you first, the story a year ago
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in January, uh, during the impeachment hearings, I was in Mar-a-Lago with president Trump and one other
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Brian Jack, who was his former white house political director. And, uh, it was January, 2021. And I'm
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saying to him, you're going to have to be patient. But those of us who remember Ronald Reagan, when he
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didn't win the nomination of Ford lost to Carter, uh, the country had buyer's remorse and all of a
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sudden Reagan over four years built a reelection campaign and won in a landslide because Jimmy
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Carter failed. And we know that Joe Biden is going to fail because his policies are all the wrong
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prescriptions. And I said to the president Trump, you just have to be patient, but you know, there will
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be buyer's remorse and, uh, you will, you know, people will want you to be president again.
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And, uh, the only, the only difference is right. The only difference is Joe Biden collapsed in less
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than a year and did in a matter of months, which Jimmy Carter took four years to do. And the American
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public, they wish there was an election today because when you look at Joe Biden's numbers, I mean, people
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thought that he was, you know, if you listen to his campaign in the mainstream media, you thought he was
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going to be a unifier. You thought that he was going to, uh, uh, you know, to, to, to be a moderate
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Democrat and he's been anything but, and you're, you're right right now, 65% of all voters say the
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country's on the wrong track, 32% right direction. We have these poll numbers up on our website,
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mclaughlinonline.com. And they think the economy is getting worse instead of better 62 to 30.
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And what's amazing about that is Biden who had a 58% job approval when he first took office because
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president Trump had left him with a growing economy. People thought it was going to get better.
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They had the vaccines against the virus, the virus that Joe Biden said he was going to just
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stop it and get rid of. And now Biden's job approval is only 41% approved among a thousand likely voters,
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57% disapproved. That includes 22% or a quarter of the 2020 Biden voters. In this poll, we have 51%
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of the voters tell us they voted for Biden. So it matches the election results in the 2020 model.
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Exactly. 22% of the Democrats disapprove of the job that Biden's doing. 25% of the African-American
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voters, 50% of the Hispanics. I mean, you're now looking at a Democrat coalition that is coming apart
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and it's cracking up. It's beyond the Republicans want President Trump to run again.
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The independents would vote for President Trump again. The Republicans are leading the generic
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ballot for Congress, 48 to 43. So the wave election is coming. The Republicans need to let it happen.
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If Biden doesn't do a 180 and say, look, I'm wrong. I'm going to seal the border.
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I'm going to stop raising taxes, stop spending. If he doesn't do what Bill Clinton did,
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the Democrats are headed for a disaster in November. So it's really a tough time for the
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country, but the voters are ready to take action. Well, I hope that they stay ready. And to your point,
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we always see, what is it? In midterm elections, the incumbent president's party loses something like
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25, 26 seats. They lose five seats in the Senate. That's just historically the average.
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And to see these kinds of numbers, give us a sense of how much that could either balloon or shrink
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with Biden if he persists in this, in this journey of madness that he has the country on.
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Well, as I said, the Republicans are leading 48 to 43 in the generic vote for Congress.
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Now I'm an older person that I've polled for a long time. I used to do it for Arthur Finkelstein when
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Arthur was Mike Deaver's pollster and Reagan was president. But I had my own firm in 94 and
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had to deliver polling to the Republican leadership, including then whip Newt Gingrich. In September
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of 94, Haley Barber and Congressman McCollum had paid for a national survey.
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And those are great. Those are some great old names.
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Yes. And and and the Republicans, you know, for years, we were always behind the generic ballot.
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The Democrats had the majority for, you know, some 40 years or whatever.
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I delivered a poll in September where they wanted to see if we had to compromise on Clinton's health
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care proposal on Hillary care. And the poll came back with a generic ballot up seven Republicans
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and don't compromise on on Hillary care and you'll have a majority. And they'd never seen that.
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And I presented those numbers to then, you know, soon to be Speaker Newt Gingrich of Bob Michael and the
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Republicans won a landslide where they, you know, won over 50 seats. And we've seen it in 2010 when
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Obama was president, won over 60 seats. And now you've got the Republicans up 48, 43. And it's a
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hidden boat with the nine percent who are undecided because the nine percent who are undecided are really
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not undecided. They say the country's on the wrong track, 76 percent. And all and only 34 percent
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approve the job that Biden's doing, 58 disapprove. So the Republicans will probably, if they don't
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screw this up, they'll get another six points out of the nine undecided and win like 54 percent of the
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popular vote. So a long way to go between now and then. But when you look at, you know,
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the vote, they don't want the debt ceiling raised. They don't want, you know, when you think about
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a number came out yesterday where Joe Biden, when he took office, the national debt, $21 trillion.
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Right. It is now 30 trillion. Yeah. He is almost by nine trillion. He increased the national debt
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in less in a year. John, everybody should think about this. The build back better legislation
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that thank you, Joe Manchin. Thank you, Senator Sinema. This this is so outrageous. He said to
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everyone in the White House, push this on Capitol Hill, that it was one and three quarters trillion
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dollars would be the cost. That would be bad enough. But the reasonable and objective estimates
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put the number more approaching five trillion dollars. Add that to the budget. You're talking
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about about an 18 percent increase in the national debt in one bill by this that most people have no
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idea of what's in it. It is a complete and utter payoff to the Democratic Party at every level of
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government, state, county, local and, of course, federal. It is a travesty. And this this White House
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has the temerity to come back and try to shove this down the throats of the Republicans and the
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American people. This is what we're dealing with with this this man, Biden. Yes. And what you
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you know, and the voters get it right off the bat, because the voters we've done polling even for
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the Job Creators Network. We do 500 small business owners every month. Right. Two months, they say
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build back better. And these policies are increasing inflation. And the voters themselves, they say the
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number one economic issue is cost of living inflation. Right. They what one of the brilliant
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things that in the work that I've done with Newt Gingrich, I still work for him with his firm,
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Gingrich 360. They define the build back better bill, not as a infrastructure bill, which they
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were, which would have been popular. They should have done it when Donald Trump was president.
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They've defined it as a spending bill, which it is, and which you define you, the way you rattled off
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those numbers and facts and figures, the American public gets that. And that's why with the $30
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trillion debt and that kind of deficit spending, that's why you're paying four or $5 a gallon in
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gas instead of $2, because now it takes a lot more dollars there. And it's the Biden hidden tax
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where when you go to buy food, people are telling us in focus groups, they're in sticker shock.
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Things that cost them, you know, basic necessities of meat and other things are costing them a third
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to half to double the price that they paid a year ago. And it's because of inflation. And so the
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voters get it. They blame the Democrats. They blame Biden. They, and I've heard stories that Joe
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Manchin's numbers in Virginia have gone up significantly. And, uh, you know, so the voters
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are ready to take out the big spenders and put in people who will, who will give us a balanced
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budget amendment again, or a balanced budget. Uh, and I'll take, I'll take a budget that makes sense.
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That's rational that I know what the money will be spent on, uh, these arrogant, uh, SOBs in the
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democratic leadership have, have the temerity to not even tell people it's just a constant replay of
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Pelosi's famous Obamacare line. You know, we'll tell you what's in it when we pass it. Uh, you know,
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and there's nothing like the, the, the radical Dems, uh, tyranny of condescension. They do it
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primarily to their own, uh, constituency, whether it'd be, uh, African Americans, Hispanics, uh,
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whomever, uh, but they're doing it now to the entire country, irrespective of group of identity
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politics. They condescend to tell us what they wish us to know. And, uh, my God, if they don't
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get a wave election out of this, I don't know what the Republicans could possibly do to mess it up,
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Well, they could raise the debt ceiling again when people want to, by the way, let me run
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through a series of these numbers that I'll tell you why wave is so big, by the way, Biden,
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they think he should have a cognitive test and make it public. 60% of all voters, 60% don't think
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it's, which is dangerous for the world, but they know he's not capable. Kamala Harris,
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she's impeachment insurance. Cause she's only got a 39 favorable and a 56 unfavorable, uh, Pelosi
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who announced she's running again is only 33 favorable on 61 unfavorable. 33%. Yes. 33 favorable,
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61 unfair across the country. Um, they, they prefer free market capitalism to big government,
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socialism, 61 to 15. They prefer a smaller government rather than a larger government,
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more services, 52% to 34%. And Biden, if there was a Democrat primary today, Biden would only get 25%
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of the vote to run for president again. And you would have Michelle Obama at 16% and you'd have
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Hillary Clinton at seven tied with AOC. The Democrat party is leader, leaderless. And in contrast,
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if you look at Republican primary voters, 70% want Donald Trump to run again. And if Donald Trump
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runs again, they support him 81 to 15. And he beats Joe Biden nationally 49 44, which would be an
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electoral landslide. He beats Kamala Harris 51 to 40. And if Hillary Clinton got in, he beats Hillary
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Clinton 51 to 41. So the people want an election right now, but we have to go through the primaries,
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elect conservatives, elect Trump Republicans, and then we have to make sure they get elected in November.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, I love the left-wing media, uh, the corporate outlets, uh, you know,
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the Comcast, NBC news, the AT&T, CNN, speaking of CNN, by the way, did you hear that, uh, uh, Jeff
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Zucker, the CEO of CNN had to, they apparently had to march him out of there. Uh, he did some of that
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me too stuff apparently, uh, over there at CNN. Uh, just wanted to bring everybody up to date on that.
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Uh, it's, it's, it's, it's stunning stuff that the, all of these outlets are owned by corporations.
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So it's an oligarchy, oligarchy economically and financially, uh, but it's our media is an
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oligarchy as well. Uh, it's, it's tough stuff. And when you say things like 81% of Republican primary
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voters will support president Trump. I mean, I think about the, uh, the Atlantic, I think about all the
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left-wing magazines and networks that have said, you know, Trump is losing his base. I mean, it's
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a pretty tough deal. It's more propaganda from the left. I mean, this is great stuff. And as a
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supporter of president Trump, obviously I get kind of excited about that. Yes. And, and, and look,
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I've, I've known president Trump a long time when he was thinking of running in 2012, helped him in
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2011, when he decided to get in and, and, and 2015, 2016, I helped him and, and we won. And when
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they were saying we couldn't win, I kept on telling him we were in a close race and we can win. And
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you know, he was working, he'd go from six in the morning till like after midnight doing rallies
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every day to get out the vote. And we won by 78,000 votes really out of 131 million. And then in the
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last election, they kept telling him to throw in the towel and they had all these bad polls. I mean,
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CNN attacked me publicly, Chris Cuomo on prime time, because they put out a poll. We were down 14
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points in June of that year. And the poll had only 25% Republicans on election day, we were 36%.
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So they, they rigged the polls and they're doing it again. And they're afraid that they're really
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afraid that Donald Trump will get reelected and the heartland of America, where we, where we built
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our coalition and the rust belt and the sun belt, the heartland of America wants Donald Trump to run
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again and get reelected. And they want to go back to a secure border. They want, they want the national
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crime, uh, you know, uh, to, to end. There's a, there's a, they want the economy to be good,
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the dollar to be strong again. And they, and they want this inflation to be put in check and they
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don't want to end up having to pay $30 trillion in taxes for them and their kids and grandkids while
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the nation's standard of living declines. Plus he's this man surrendered a country, president Biden
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in August. Uh, I used to work for, uh, uh, Stephen Harper, the former prime minister of Canada was a
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strong ally. He had troops in Afghanistan. He was our NATO ally. When, when, uh, when, when Biden was
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withdrawing, he called me up and he says, this is not a withdrawal. This is a surrender. And Biden
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surrendered Afghanistan. And now the people of Ukraine are worried because no one in the world
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is afraid of Joe Biden and the Chinese and Russians own him. Well, I think Americans are afraid of him.
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Uh, I think they're scared to death of him. And, and I think that's appropriate. Uh, when you've
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got a guy who is, I mean, I, I will never forget that moment in which I learned that Ukrainian
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president, uh, Zelensky had asked Biden to calm down, that he was getting hysterical over the
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prospect of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the president of the country telling Biden to calm
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the hell down. Uh, this is what we've got in the white house. And by the way, I, if he had people
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who were sensible, rational, experienced, let's say with above average IQs, I could at least say,
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you know, maybe we'll be okay. They don't exist there. Lloyd Austin is leading as the secretary of
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defense, the Pentagon, uh, general Milley, who wants to talk to the Chinese before he orders,
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uh, gives his battalion commanders orders. I mean, this is nuts what we've got going on in this
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administration. Yes. It's not a good time for the United States or the world because when Donald
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Trump was president, they respected America. They may not have liked them, but they respected America
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and they, and he tried to make the NATO alliance stronger. He certainly had the Chinese on notice
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and he had Iran on notice. And, uh, you know, the world, the world respected America and now you're
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in a dangerous situation because the world can't count on America. And that's, that's that kind of
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a security debacle on top of, uh, on top of, uh, uh, of an economy that's going to be beset by
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inflation. And, you know, a government that's gone wild and spending is, is really not good for the
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average American at all. And I like, and I like also, I like everything about your poll, obviously,
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but, uh, I also like, uh, your, uh, analysis of what's going on with winter Olympics and the
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corporate sponsors, as you, as you point out, a majority disapprove of allowing American athletes
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to compete. They basically want a, uh, a boycott and, and to see the impact, um, advertisers,
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big business, corporate America, uh, to see it as a loser for them because 59% of the voters
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disapprove of those sponsorships and only 25% approve. That is stunning stuff.
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Right. And that's, and that's how you're referring to the questions where we asked a
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simple disapprove, disapprove, allowing American athletes to compete in the upcoming winter Olympics
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in China. Even though it's been documented, the Chinese government, uh, you know, is actively
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engaged in human rights abuses and it was 35 approved, 53 disapprove. And then when we asked
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them about the American businesses and corporations sponsoring the winter Olympics in China, even
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though it's been documented, the Chinese government is putting on the Olympics is engaged in human
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rights violations, slavery, forced labor, et cetera. It's 25% approved, 59 disapprove. You
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know, the, the corporate crowd is headed for a bath here with China and China, by the way,
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the Olympics may be the only reason that Putin is not already into Ukraine or that China is
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not into Taiwan. Uh, and the sad part is, you know, they're the ones who are basically dictating
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to these American corporations, the communist Chinese, uh, to shut down president Trump to like
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you started your, this program talking about, uh, Joe Rogan and Spotify, et cetera. I mean, and,
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and the white house, uh, you know, trying to, you know, keep information from the American
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people and then their first amendment rights, which is, uh, a scary prospect for, uh, every
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American. So I truly don't, I truly believe that this is the most left way. And I thought Obama
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had the, the win on this, but, uh, his, uh, former vice president is taking a cake. Uh, this
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is the most authoritarian left wing, uh, administration in this country's history and
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the country is, is your poll reveals that this is a far more conservative country than you
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will gather listening to the Bezos owned Washington post or the AT&T CNN, uh, or Disney's ABC news.
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Uh, this is almost diametrically opposed, uh, it's alternate realities, what your poll shows
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and what the left wing media, the corporate owned media are pushing on the American people.
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Yes. And that's why they're listening to your podcast. And that's why the American people are
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in the elections. We saw it a little bit last year in Virginia. We saw it in New York state where they
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had propositions that they were trying to rig the elections where they wanted to count illegals
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in redistricting, where they wanted to, uh, uh, have same day registration in a state where you're
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not allowed to ask for voter ID. And they wanted to, uh, have no excuse absentee so they could ballot
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harvest. And the people of New York and deep blue New York voted each one of those propositions down
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with as much as 58% of the vote precisely so that we could have honest elections and not enable fraud.
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And even, even in Nassau County, you saw, uh, one of the authors of cashless bail in New York,
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a state center was running for DA got crushed by a woman who is a career prosecutor and a Republican
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who opposed cashless bail, uh, and dolly got 58% of the vote over Todd Kaminsky. So the voters won
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elections and mainstream and the middle of America is hearing this and they want to vote on this and
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they're going to vote against, uh, you know, the Democrats because the Democrats now they're trying
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to rig the elections. I mean, you see it with the election bills and it's, it's, it's a scary time
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in America because if we don't win, we'll lose our country. And, uh, we really think one thing I hope
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Americans learned in 2020, uh, it is not just about how the vote that you turn out. Uh, it is also about
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who counts the vote and how the vote is counted. And that's so important. And I have to tell you,
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John, I, I, you're the expert here. I don't see or hear a single rumble from the Republican national
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committee, uh, nor for that matter, uh, from the Trump organization about what they're doing
00:27:51.280
at the local level to make sure that the, these, this nonsense ends with 2020. Uh, I, I just hate
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to think of it being, uh, perpetuated, uh, and the left being allowed to get away with another one.
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I, by the way, I totally agree because granted I was doing polling in the campaign, but you know,
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there were things that went on where, um, if I'd done more polling, we could have picked up on
00:28:15.960
certain things, but the, uh, uh, but the campaign was cash strapped at the time. But in Georgia,
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when I worked for governor deal, we never allowed drop boxes in Georgia and these Zuckerberg drop
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boxes. I have no idea why the, why the Republican national committee has not filed an FEC complaint
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and an IRS complaint because they spent $400 million to enable ballot fraud and enable
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uh, uh, you know, it was, you know, it wasn't anything technical with these, the, the, the,
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as far as we know, as far as what I'm, what, what I'm looking at is the evidence I see from,
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uh, like in Georgia, this 300,000 ballots that have no chain of custody records that were put in drop
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boxes in Metro Atlanta where the Democrats live and, and, and, uh, you have in Wisconsin where they're
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saying that there was, there was tens of thousands of people saying that they had a permanent
00:29:14.300
disability when they didn't. And you're seeing the similar stuff in, in Wisconsin and Arizona. Well,
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Zuckerberg's the one who funded this and guess who his strategist was David Plouffe, who was Obama's
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campaign manager and the Republicans. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Yeah. He wrote a book on it. It wasn't a
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secret. Those of us who read the book, I don't think anybody in the RNC read the book. The RNC
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should have, they, they should be filing complaints against these guys and legal actions. And instead
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they're still playing defense when Mark Elias is trying to, you know, uh, you know, basically what
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they call voting rights. They're enabling fraud and they're enabling, uh, uh, you know, the idea of,
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uh, you get these unchecked absentee ballots where like in Georgia, people could go up to a drop box,
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and drop in multiple ballots and they could do it for whomever. And God knows where it came from.
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And, uh, then they had private workers pick it up, not government employees. And, uh, uh, so it was a
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well-planned democratic operation and 44,000 votes. That was it. It was, you know, 11,000 Arizona,
00:30:24.060
12,000 in Georgia, 20,000 Wisconsin, and Donald Trump would still be president. And we should have
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fought it better with Texas. They fought it, Florida. They fought it, North Carolina. They
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fought it. And in these other States, the Republicans were asleep at the switch and got
00:30:39.140
beat. And, uh, now, you know, you're seeing in Georgia, I work for speaker Ralston. They changed
00:30:44.640
the election law where the Democrats hate it because the drop boxes have to be in a secure
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government office, one in a County, um, you know, so that they're watched and you can't
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have these, these people, you know, for, uh, do the ballot harvesting.
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In most States, am I correct? In most States, drop boxes are illegal. Uh, and I, and I don't
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understand why Georgia has a damn drop box of any kind.
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Yeah. Well, there's secure, I guess, cause some people don't believe the post office can
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deliver. But the other hand too, is Georgia, what they did best is they have, they have
00:31:21.200
voter ID and they preserve voter ID, whether it's an absentee or whether it's in person,
00:31:26.080
you have to show voter ID. And the Democrats are against voter ID and over 80% of all Americans
00:31:31.740
support it. And guess what? The Democrats, those of us who are, I still live in New York.
00:31:37.320
They haven't forced me out. You know, it's like being at the Alamo, but in our national poll,
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we had a question, uh, you know, cause the Democrats in New York city want to let, uh,
00:31:50.440
foreigners, non-citizens vote in our, in our elections. And I don't live in the city,
00:31:55.560
but that's what they want in New York city. And it'll be a cancer if it gets approved. So we asked
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our national poll prove disapproval, allowing foreigners, non-citizens to vote in local United
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States elections who have been in America for as little as 30 days, 78% of all voters disapproved.
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The other 15% approved, they're corrupt. And 67% strongly disapproved because Americans get it.
00:32:21.520
This is a move to, to cancel our boats out. And I guess that we'll probably start seeing, uh,
00:32:27.160
voting, uh, cruises and, uh, travel agency is offering, uh, you know, go to America for the
00:32:33.340
week, uh, and boat, uh, John, thanks so much for being with us today. I want to, I want to conclude
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if I may, uh, and you get the last word here, but I really would like to get your sense of what you
00:32:47.300
expect the Dems to do because whatever else they are, they're, they're not stupid when it comes to
00:32:53.400
tactical and strategic politics. What do you expect the Dems to do to stop Biden from running?
00:32:59.700
Because he obviously is the problem followed by Kamala Harris, uh, and of course, all of their
00:33:05.120
policies, what can they do and what do you expect them to do in the next six months?
00:33:09.700
Well, well, my, my friend, uh, Pat Cadell, who was the late great pollster worked for Jimmy Carter,
00:33:15.340
but then he worked for Trump. He came around. He used to have a saying that the Democrats are the
00:33:20.500
crooked party and the Republicans are the stupid party. And it's still true. Amen. Right. So what
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I think they're going to do is double down on trying to bring back election law changes where
00:33:34.080
they basically enable ballot fraud across the country, get rid of voter ID. And when that doesn't
00:33:40.760
work, Joe Biden, I don't, you know, I think it's, it's Kamala Harris. They don't want her to be
00:33:49.100
president. They don't want either one of them in D.C. by appearances. Yeah. And my friends who live
00:33:56.400
in Chappaqua, New York, they say there's a lot of coming and going at the Clinton's home up in
00:34:00.860
Chappaqua, New York. So the rumor, the rumor, the conspiracy rumor was Harris would be talked into
00:34:08.120
going to the Supreme court by Obama and Hillary would be appointed vice president and then made
00:34:13.260
invoke the 25th amendment against Joe Biden. But it's like, I don't see it. Well, I'm, I'm shuddering
00:34:20.280
at the prospect of any of that for crying out loud, but John, it's great of you to be here. Enjoyed a
00:34:26.380
conversation as always. Please come back soon. Uh, and, uh, thanks for being here. Well, keep on getting
00:34:33.300
out the truth and, uh, hopefully we can keep, keep the Republicans from snatching defeat from the
00:34:38.860
joys of victory. So if we, if we elect the right candidates in primaries and Trump conservative
00:34:45.900
Republicans, and then we get them elected in November, the country will be back on the right
00:34:50.500
track, but we'll have a lot of damage. We have to repair. Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it there
00:34:55.100
and here first, the, the roadmap to victory, uh, for the GOP. Thanks so much, John, John. Thank you,
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though. Appreciate it. John McLaughlin, uh, one of the, if not the country's greatest pollsters and a
00:35:10.620
great American, obviously. Uh, thanks for being with us. And, uh, we appreciate your support here
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