The Great America Show - MIRANDA DEVINE SAYS HUNTER’S NEW ATTY TO BLAME VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY FOR LAPTOP

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00:00:31.060 Biden shortages just keep getting worse. Semiconductor shortages, baby formula shortages,

00:00:37.980 food shortages, gas shortages. But don't worry. President Biden wants to buy oil from Venezuela

00:00:44.640 or Iran. He doesn't apparently care much which totalitarian state he does business with. And

00:00:51.540 he's bringing in another airlift of baby formula. Looks like he has a deal with Australia. Oh,

00:00:57.860 and it turns out the Biden White House knew all about the formula shortage seven months ago,

00:01:04.580 but didn't start to do anything about it until the last few weeks. Brilliant. Typical Biden.

00:01:13.780 Well, President Biden is also trying now to push the idea he's doing something about runaway

00:01:18.460 inflation by golly. All right. His advisors are trying to do something because we know

00:01:24.000 he doesn't do anything really. His puppet masters and his so-called staff are running the Biden disaster

00:01:30.920 from the White House. And everyone needs to quit pretending that everything about Biden isn't simply

00:01:37.340 farcical. His impairment is widely known as is his ineptitude. The only thing missing in this Biden

00:01:45.360 White House is the calliope and the clown horns. We all know, thanks to the Michael Sussman trial,

00:01:52.740 that Hillary did it. That is, gave the go-ahead to smear Donald Trump with the phony Russian collusion 1.00

00:01:58.420 lies. But a full D.C. acquittal for Sussman, who everyone knew had lied. But the jury didn't care.

00:02:06.340 And everyone now wants to know what happened to the Hunter Biden laptop and its evidence of Biden

00:02:11.960 family wrongdoing, corruption, and lots of pocket lining. With us today is the best-selling author

00:02:18.820 of The Laptop from Hell and star columnist of The New York Post, Miranda Devine, great journalist,

00:02:26.280 great American. Miranda Devine, it is great to have you here on The Great America Show. I've got to

00:02:32.180 begin with The Laptop from Hell. Will that ever, ever be a resolved story? Will it, will we ever know

00:02:41.300 the essential truth of Hunter Biden's laptop and its contents?

00:02:46.820 Look, I think that if the Republicans take back the House and or the Senate, we certainly will be

00:02:53.080 seeing more investigations into The Laptop, but not just The Laptop. All the other information,

00:03:00.060 Tony Bobulinski's information, all the Treasury Department documents that Senators Chuck Grasley

00:03:05.860 and Ron Johnson have uncovered. They'll have subpoena power. They'll be able to subpoena Devin

00:03:10.700 Archer and James Gillier, all the other of Hunter Biden's former business partners, and get some of

00:03:19.720 this material that's hidden from us thus far on the record, chasing down the money, following the money

00:03:26.000 trail, seeing where the money went in terms of Joe Biden, his bank accounts, having full transparency

00:03:33.000 on that. I think that will happen. But there are a few obstacles to go until then. For now, we're seeing

00:03:40.660 that Hunter Biden has a very wealthy benefactor now in Los Angeles, the wealthy entertainment lawyer,

00:03:48.280 Kevin Morris, who made a fortune out of the South Park guys. He is, you know, now a friend of Hunter's,

00:03:56.000 they live near each other in Malibu. And Kevin Morris is hellbent on avenging Hunter's, you know,

00:04:03.400 Hunter and his reputation and so on. And so I think, you know, he probably is well-meaning. That's what

00:04:10.960 it seems to me anyway. But he's- You mean Kevin Morris?

00:04:14.500 Kevin Morris, in terms of he's, I think he's doing this genuinely for altruistic reasons because-

00:04:21.000 Do you?

00:04:21.200 He feels so, yeah. I mean, he's a former addict. Hunter is a former addict. I think they've bonded

00:04:27.240 over that. You know, I've spoken to him off the record, but he just is determined to prove that none

00:04:38.260 of the laptop stuff is real. Although he's not able to tackle and isn't even trying to tackle the content

00:04:46.480 of the laptop, the damning material that's come out so far on the Biden family international influence

00:04:53.360 peddling scheme that gleaned them tens of millions of dollars from adversaries in China and Russia and

00:04:59.440 so on. He's not trying to engage with that. Instead, he's trying to muddy the waters. And he has

00:05:05.700 apparently assembled this war room of, you know, 30 investigators and lawyers to try and make out

00:05:13.660 that the laptop's origin story is not what it is. That John Paul MacIsaac didn't receive the laptop

00:05:21.700 from Hunter Biden on that, you know, April 2019 night. And that somehow there were all sorts of

00:05:29.380 shadowy figures on the right wing, a vast right wing conspiracy that concocted or hacked or

00:05:35.620 stole. There's nothing very coherent about the narrative. But what you can see is that they

00:05:42.060 are trying to construct an alternative reality. And as preposterous as it seems, because it's so,

00:05:48.600 you know, in defiance of the truth and the facts as we have proven them, I think that, you know,

00:05:55.300 there's always a ready customer in the left wing media. They've never liked this laptop story.

00:06:01.260 They ignored it. They ran down the New York Post for running it in the first place. Now they're

00:06:07.020 reluctantly coming to the party and admitting that the laptop's real and the material on it

00:06:12.040 is authentic. But I think that if someone offers them an alternative reality, an alternative truth,

00:06:19.480 they will jump at it because all they want to do is exonerate the Bidens.

00:06:24.100 So we've reached a point in this country with our corporate media in which a narrative, so long as it

00:06:32.440 is entertaining and at least semi-plausible in conjecture, if not in fact, then the corporate

00:06:44.480 media is perfectly willing to roll with that narrative over every fact, every genuine, objective,

00:06:51.420 independent report available. I mean, that's really a sorry state of affairs because you have

00:07:00.460 great faith in Kevin Morris. I have great faith in the possibilities that surround his entry into

00:07:06.660 this contest. And that is that a huge number of donors have put great sums of money at his disposal

00:07:14.960 to hire, as you have reported in your column, dozens of lawyers and investigators with only one purpose,

00:07:23.220 and that is to suppress the truth, not to reveal it.

00:07:28.300 Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know that he needs any more donors, but yes, I mean, that in fact could

00:07:34.320 be the case. I think money is no object for him. I mean, he flew to Serbia on his private jet back in

00:07:41.880 November to infiltrate the movie set of the movie that's coming up, My Son Hunter, and sort of film

00:07:50.440 and spy on the producers and the actors for a couple of days. To what purpose? I don't really know. He told

00:07:58.440 them he was making a documentary. Maybe he is. I guess that would be interesting to some people to see

00:08:06.280 Hunter Biden. I mean, he had, you know, he is friends with Hunter Biden. So it would kind of be

00:08:10.180 the first time we would hear Hunter Biden speak. I mean, I would love to interview Hunter Biden,

00:08:15.160 as I've told Kevin Morris. And I would love to put his side of the story because we really haven't

00:08:21.120 heard from him thus far. And what we kind of can discern is that he doesn't take too kindly to

00:08:28.660 the White House, to his father's staff as trying to throw him under the bus. And we saw that during

00:08:36.680 the campaign. In fact, just before he abandoned his laptop, he was raging at his father because

00:08:43.420 his father's staff, he felt, had sort of shocked him to Maureen Dowd at the New York Times and

00:08:49.900 described him as the troubled hunter, you know, in this column.

00:08:54.780 Oh, my goodness. That seems so inaccurate.

00:08:58.380 Yes. Well, you know, I mean, I guess when he was in the grip of this crack addiction,

00:09:05.480 his reality was very skewed. And I don't know what his reality is like now. I'm told that he's still

00:09:12.620 sober, which I guess is an achievement. But the fact is that, you know, the left wing media,

00:09:19.660 the Democrat friendly media already, they are writing stories when they write about the laptop,

00:09:25.580 they always insert a clause in there.

00:09:27.420 Oh, evidence that Joe Biden had anything to do with Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. I mean,

00:09:34.680 that's just garbage. There is so much evidence that Joe Biden was aware, was involved, was meeting 0.99

00:09:41.640 Hunter's overseas business partners, was sharing in the spoils. It's preposterous. But as we saw with

00:09:49.100 the Russia collusion hoax, whatever suits their ideological worldview, that is how they will

00:09:57.160 shape the narrative. And I mean, we see that across the country. You saw the other day, Michael

00:10:03.480 Sussman, the Clinton lawyer, being acquitted by a jury and the jury forewoman saying, well,

00:10:09.780 I don't know why we should be wasting our time about a potential lie to the FBI as if that is such

00:10:15.780 a trivial situation. I mean, the whole country now thinks that there are, there's no objective truth,

00:10:23.520 there's no objective reality, that there's your truth and my truth. And all that does is say that

00:10:30.700 it's okay to lie, that lies are just an alternative version of the truth. And that's a disaster for our

00:10:38.580 country. And in social situations, or in our culture, we're seeing with, you know, this gender 1.00

00:10:46.540 confusion for children. If a child says, a girl says, I'm a boy, then you have to accept that that's 0.81

00:10:54.780 her truth. And then follow that down the inevitable line of giving her hormones and, you know, changing 0.88

00:11:02.020 her sex and possibly, you know, surgically mutilating her. This is a disaster. You cannot have a culture, 1.00

00:11:12.480 a society that does not believe in the same reality. Right now, it's pretty clear that there is,

00:11:20.140 the left has departed from any connection to reality. And I'm including in the left, of course,

00:11:26.180 the President of the United States who is impaired, who is not connected to reality. And we have a 0.70

00:11:32.580 country that is actually taking seriously arguments that children from five to nine should be having

00:11:39.720 sex talks in their schools. This is not a matter for debate. This is a matter for outrage and

00:11:47.640 admonishment of anyone who would be so sick and perverted is to insist on such a thing. Don't you agree?

00:11:54.560 You're so right, Lou. Honestly, I think, you know, President Biden is really the perfect president

00:12:01.300 for our times because he is a man completely disconnected from the truth. He's always told

00:12:07.560 tall tales and fables and lied and exaggerated everything in his past, concocted entirely false

00:12:17.120 stories. This is a man who just is not connected with reality. He's always been like this. He

00:12:24.420 blew up two presidential campaigns because of his slim grasp of the truth. This is a pathology with

00:12:34.240 him. And unfortunately, at the same time, it is a pathology with this country, maybe partly driven

00:12:40.760 by him, but also happening just organically. We've been heading into this sort of relativist

00:12:48.260 truth reality for many decades, I think. And it's just come to a head now as President Biden

00:12:56.160 is in power. And as you quite rightly point out, when we have a situation where people don't believe

00:13:06.220 in an objective truth or an objective reality where it's just duelling realities, there's your truth,

00:13:12.920 there's my truth, there's her truth, there's his truth. And that leads you to a ridiculous situation

00:13:19.920 and terrifying and tragic, where if a little girl thinks that she's a boy, you know, even a two-year-old 0.71

00:13:28.000 girl thinks she's a boy, then her parents say, oh, well, that's her truth. So let's... 0.84

00:13:32.680 Well, they're idiots. I mean, they're really just idiots. And people have to understand that. 1.00

00:13:36.140 But it's more than that. It's a real... It's a mass psychosis where we believe that any truth

00:13:44.120 is truth, that anything someone says is truth. And what that...

00:13:48.400 Well, you say we. We don't. I really believe this. I mean, when you look at poll after poll,

00:13:54.320 nearly three-fourths of the country say that we're headed in the wrong direction, that this president,

00:13:59.300 a majority say he's unfit to be in the job, and the corporatist media proceeds as if he is just

00:14:05.060 an avuncular figure in the White House with interesting idiosyncratic behavior and is just

00:14:13.600 fine otherwise. I mean, this is the sort of nonsense that goes on. We have a media, an entertainment

00:14:19.160 industry, a news industry that are playing with alternative realities at their pleasure.

00:14:27.260 Yeah.

00:14:27.520 But the fact is, the American people are fooled by none of it.

00:14:31.620 Well, unfortunately, I think there's a lot of power in this philosophy that underpins,

00:14:38.340 especially with young people, that underpins their worldview, which is that you don't want 0.94

00:14:43.620 to judge anyone by denying their truth that that's being intolerant. And so, therefore...

00:14:49.960 Yes, yes. But I mean, this is the story of indoctrination. This is a story...

00:14:55.000 It is. ...of what we've allowed in our public schools, what we have allowed to happen to

00:14:58.900 parental rights, what we've allowed on the part of two powerful teachers unions, and the

00:15:06.220 Marxist left of this country that controls the Democratic Party now.

00:15:09.320 Exactly. Exactly. Lou, that's the problem. And the media. You know, when you have the AP style

00:15:15.540 book now getting into bed with these notions of pregnant men and chest-feeding men, you know,

00:15:22.860 erasing the word... You know, I hate to bust any bubbles, but, you know, men are not going to be

00:15:27.920 having babies, right? I'm just going to be brutal about it. That's just stupid. And people who want 0.99

00:15:34.560 to have a discussion about it will not do so within my earshot, because I'm going to call them out for 1.00

00:15:39.480 the fools they are. Yes. And I don't understand why people put up with this. What is the point of 1.00

00:15:47.360 putting up with this kind of psychotic behavior that you wouldn't tolerate on any other issue?

00:15:52.000 Well, I think, Lou, there's a lot of cowardice afoot. People are terrified.

00:15:57.560 I buy that. They're all Paul Ryans out there right now.

00:16:02.220 Yeah, all cowards. And not all. I mean, there are people, I think, in the Republican Party, 0.99

00:16:08.580 especially a new generation coming in that have been red-pilled by the last few years. I mean,

00:16:14.920 they saw how President Trump was demonized, how that Russia collusion lie was weaponized against

00:16:22.200 his administration. And I think that people are seeing now, Michael Avenatti, he's just been

00:16:30.720 sentenced to four years in jail. You know, people who once were idols of the left, they're coming,

00:16:37.060 crashing down. So I think...

00:16:38.800 Here's part of the independent... As we wrap up here, I've just got to ask you this,

00:16:42.660 because I think it is one of the special things to come out. Thanks, frankly, to Matt Gaetz and Jim

00:16:53.440 Jordan, two outstanding Republican congressmen. The FBI, we now learn, thanks to a whistleblower,

00:17:00.840 that the FBI maintains a workspace, including computer portal, inside the Democratic law firm

00:17:09.340 of Perkins Coy. And they have been there for the past decade. Are you kidding me? What is bigger than

00:17:18.800 that?

00:17:19.880 Isn't that incredible? And Michael Sussman, the Clinton lawyer, was in charge of that joint workspace.

00:17:28.620 No wonder he had such a cozy relationship with the FBI. They knew exactly what he was bringing to them

00:17:36.860 when he came to sort of whitewash and launder that complete garbage that made up opposition research 0.98

00:17:44.380 against Donald Trump. They knew what he was doing on the seventh floor. They knew. They were all on fire 0.94

00:17:50.500 about it, we were told in one of the pieces of evidence in that trial. They were all in on it.

00:17:56.440 The seventh floor, which is the leadership of the FBI, that institution is corrupt. 0.97

00:18:03.960 Rancid, rancid with corruption.

00:18:06.520 Well, Lou, what should be done about that? I mean, do we need the FBI?

00:18:11.060 I will tell you what I think has to be done. We have to form a national commission

00:18:16.460 on reforming the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department, and we've got to do it now.

00:18:23.240 And we've got to give them authority, subpoena authority of a massive nature, and understand,

00:18:32.300 have a very strong discussion with the U.S. Marshals, that they will be making arrests.

00:18:37.460 And they will be making arrests of fellow law enforcement and federal officials who have broken

00:18:43.960 the law. And we've got to do it now. That is the essential truth. It cannot go beyond that.

00:18:51.960 And it doesn't have to be bipartisan. We'll do it the same way the Democrats do. All Republicans on

00:18:58.600 the commission and two Democrats, you know, name your poison. But this has to happen right after

00:19:05.740 this election. And finally, we're hearing that elections in Georgia and Alabama were, there was

00:19:12.380 cheating. We are also hearing that the White House right now is preparing to pull off a Zuckerberg-like

00:19:21.460 operation, but only using federal money. Do we have a chance of an unrigged election in 2022?

00:19:30.340 Well, I hope that, you know, Republicans in every state are aware of this and alert to the fact they

00:19:37.160 should know by now what happened in 2020 can't happen again. And I wouldn't be surprised if

00:19:43.440 there's some sort of snap, you know, COVID alert that means that there's going to be more mail-in

00:19:48.880 ballots and more last-minute rule changes. The Democrats will stop at nothing. And I really think

00:19:54.480 that for every average person out there, the one thing you could do is get out and vote. If you vote

00:20:00.260 overwhelmingly, the cheaters can't prosper. Right. And by overwhelmingly, I presume you don't mean

00:20:07.400 numerous times. Not more than once. No. But just get out there. Don't sit on the couch.

00:20:14.380 Miranda Devine, we appreciate everything you do, Miranda. Your column is brilliant as are you.

00:20:19.660 And we thank you so much for joining us here on The Great America Show.

00:20:23.020 I really appreciate it. Lou, love talking to you.

00:20:25.040 Thanks, everybody, for being with us. Tomorrow, our guest is Congressman Troy Nels of Texas.

00:20:31.400 He's calling on President Biden to use the invasion clause of the Constitution to stop

00:20:36.960 illegal immigration. He also was standing guard over the Capitol on January 6th. And the Capitol

00:20:43.820 police subsequently entered his office illegally to spy on him. It's quite a story. You don't want to

00:20:51.300 miss it. That's here tomorrow on The Great America Show. Till then, God bless you. And God bless America.

The Great America Show - June 03, 2022

MIRANDA DEVINE SAYS HUNTER’S NEW ATTY TO BLAME VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY FOR LAPTOP

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