MIRANDA DEVINE SAYS HUNTER’S NEW ATTY TO BLAME VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY FOR LAPTOP
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The Laptop from Hell is a story about a laptop with damning evidence against one of the most powerful men in the country, Joe Biden. Will it ever be a resolved story? Will we ever know the truth about what s on the laptop and what s hidden from us thus far? With us today is best-selling author and New York Post columnist Miranda Devine.
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Biden shortages just keep getting worse. Semiconductor shortages, baby formula shortages,
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food shortages, gas shortages. But don't worry. President Biden wants to buy oil from Venezuela
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or Iran. He doesn't apparently care much which totalitarian state he does business with. And
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he's bringing in another airlift of baby formula. Looks like he has a deal with Australia. Oh,
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and it turns out the Biden White House knew all about the formula shortage seven months ago,
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but didn't start to do anything about it until the last few weeks. Brilliant. Typical Biden.
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Well, President Biden is also trying now to push the idea he's doing something about runaway
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inflation by golly. All right. His advisors are trying to do something because we know
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he doesn't do anything really. His puppet masters and his so-called staff are running the Biden disaster
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from the White House. And everyone needs to quit pretending that everything about Biden isn't simply
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farcical. His impairment is widely known as is his ineptitude. The only thing missing in this Biden
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White House is the calliope and the clown horns. We all know, thanks to the Michael Sussman trial,
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that Hillary did it. That is, gave the go-ahead to smear Donald Trump with the phony Russian collusion
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lies. But a full D.C. acquittal for Sussman, who everyone knew had lied. But the jury didn't care.
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And everyone now wants to know what happened to the Hunter Biden laptop and its evidence of Biden
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family wrongdoing, corruption, and lots of pocket lining. With us today is the best-selling author
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of The Laptop from Hell and star columnist of The New York Post, Miranda Devine, great journalist,
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great American. Miranda Devine, it is great to have you here on The Great America Show. I've got to
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begin with The Laptop from Hell. Will that ever, ever be a resolved story? Will it, will we ever know
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the essential truth of Hunter Biden's laptop and its contents?
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Look, I think that if the Republicans take back the House and or the Senate, we certainly will be
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seeing more investigations into The Laptop, but not just The Laptop. All the other information,
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Tony Bobulinski's information, all the Treasury Department documents that Senators Chuck Grasley
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and Ron Johnson have uncovered. They'll have subpoena power. They'll be able to subpoena Devin
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Archer and James Gillier, all the other of Hunter Biden's former business partners, and get some of
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this material that's hidden from us thus far on the record, chasing down the money, following the money
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trail, seeing where the money went in terms of Joe Biden, his bank accounts, having full transparency
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on that. I think that will happen. But there are a few obstacles to go until then. For now, we're seeing
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that Hunter Biden has a very wealthy benefactor now in Los Angeles, the wealthy entertainment lawyer,
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Kevin Morris, who made a fortune out of the South Park guys. He is, you know, now a friend of Hunter's,
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they live near each other in Malibu. And Kevin Morris is hellbent on avenging Hunter's, you know,
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Hunter and his reputation and so on. And so I think, you know, he probably is well-meaning. That's what
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it seems to me anyway. But he's- You mean Kevin Morris?
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Kevin Morris, in terms of he's, I think he's doing this genuinely for altruistic reasons because-
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He feels so, yeah. I mean, he's a former addict. Hunter is a former addict. I think they've bonded
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over that. You know, I've spoken to him off the record, but he just is determined to prove that none
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of the laptop stuff is real. Although he's not able to tackle and isn't even trying to tackle the content
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of the laptop, the damning material that's come out so far on the Biden family international influence
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peddling scheme that gleaned them tens of millions of dollars from adversaries in China and Russia and
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so on. He's not trying to engage with that. Instead, he's trying to muddy the waters. And he has
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apparently assembled this war room of, you know, 30 investigators and lawyers to try and make out
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that the laptop's origin story is not what it is. That John Paul MacIsaac didn't receive the laptop
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from Hunter Biden on that, you know, April 2019 night. And that somehow there were all sorts of
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shadowy figures on the right wing, a vast right wing conspiracy that concocted or hacked or
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stole. There's nothing very coherent about the narrative. But what you can see is that they
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are trying to construct an alternative reality. And as preposterous as it seems, because it's so,
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you know, in defiance of the truth and the facts as we have proven them, I think that, you know,
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there's always a ready customer in the left wing media. They've never liked this laptop story.
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They ignored it. They ran down the New York Post for running it in the first place. Now they're
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reluctantly coming to the party and admitting that the laptop's real and the material on it
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is authentic. But I think that if someone offers them an alternative reality, an alternative truth,
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they will jump at it because all they want to do is exonerate the Bidens.
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So we've reached a point in this country with our corporate media in which a narrative, so long as it
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is entertaining and at least semi-plausible in conjecture, if not in fact, then the corporate
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media is perfectly willing to roll with that narrative over every fact, every genuine, objective,
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independent report available. I mean, that's really a sorry state of affairs because you have
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great faith in Kevin Morris. I have great faith in the possibilities that surround his entry into
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this contest. And that is that a huge number of donors have put great sums of money at his disposal
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to hire, as you have reported in your column, dozens of lawyers and investigators with only one purpose,
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and that is to suppress the truth, not to reveal it.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't know that he needs any more donors, but yes, I mean, that in fact could
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be the case. I think money is no object for him. I mean, he flew to Serbia on his private jet back in
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November to infiltrate the movie set of the movie that's coming up, My Son Hunter, and sort of film
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and spy on the producers and the actors for a couple of days. To what purpose? I don't really know. He told
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them he was making a documentary. Maybe he is. I guess that would be interesting to some people to see
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Hunter Biden. I mean, he had, you know, he is friends with Hunter Biden. So it would kind of be
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the first time we would hear Hunter Biden speak. I mean, I would love to interview Hunter Biden,
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as I've told Kevin Morris. And I would love to put his side of the story because we really haven't
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heard from him thus far. And what we kind of can discern is that he doesn't take too kindly to
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the White House, to his father's staff as trying to throw him under the bus. And we saw that during
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the campaign. In fact, just before he abandoned his laptop, he was raging at his father because
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his father's staff, he felt, had sort of shocked him to Maureen Dowd at the New York Times and
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described him as the troubled hunter, you know, in this column.
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Yes. Well, you know, I mean, I guess when he was in the grip of this crack addiction,
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his reality was very skewed. And I don't know what his reality is like now. I'm told that he's still
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sober, which I guess is an achievement. But the fact is that, you know, the left wing media,
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the Democrat friendly media already, they are writing stories when they write about the laptop,
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Oh, evidence that Joe Biden had anything to do with Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. I mean,
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that's just garbage. There is so much evidence that Joe Biden was aware, was involved, was meeting
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Hunter's overseas business partners, was sharing in the spoils. It's preposterous. But as we saw with
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the Russia collusion hoax, whatever suits their ideological worldview, that is how they will
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shape the narrative. And I mean, we see that across the country. You saw the other day, Michael
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Sussman, the Clinton lawyer, being acquitted by a jury and the jury forewoman saying, well,
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I don't know why we should be wasting our time about a potential lie to the FBI as if that is such
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a trivial situation. I mean, the whole country now thinks that there are, there's no objective truth,
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there's no objective reality, that there's your truth and my truth. And all that does is say that
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it's okay to lie, that lies are just an alternative version of the truth. And that's a disaster for our
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country. And in social situations, or in our culture, we're seeing with, you know, this gender
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confusion for children. If a child says, a girl says, I'm a boy, then you have to accept that that's
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her truth. And then follow that down the inevitable line of giving her hormones and, you know, changing
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her sex and possibly, you know, surgically mutilating her. This is a disaster. You cannot have a culture,
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a society that does not believe in the same reality. Right now, it's pretty clear that there is,
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the left has departed from any connection to reality. And I'm including in the left, of course,
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the President of the United States who is impaired, who is not connected to reality. And we have a
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country that is actually taking seriously arguments that children from five to nine should be having
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sex talks in their schools. This is not a matter for debate. This is a matter for outrage and
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admonishment of anyone who would be so sick and perverted is to insist on such a thing. Don't you agree?
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You're so right, Lou. Honestly, I think, you know, President Biden is really the perfect president
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for our times because he is a man completely disconnected from the truth. He's always told
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tall tales and fables and lied and exaggerated everything in his past, concocted entirely false
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stories. This is a man who just is not connected with reality. He's always been like this. He
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blew up two presidential campaigns because of his slim grasp of the truth. This is a pathology with
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him. And unfortunately, at the same time, it is a pathology with this country, maybe partly driven
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by him, but also happening just organically. We've been heading into this sort of relativist
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truth reality for many decades, I think. And it's just come to a head now as President Biden
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is in power. And as you quite rightly point out, when we have a situation where people don't believe
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in an objective truth or an objective reality where it's just duelling realities, there's your truth,
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there's my truth, there's her truth, there's his truth. And that leads you to a ridiculous situation
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and terrifying and tragic, where if a little girl thinks that she's a boy, you know, even a two-year-old
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girl thinks she's a boy, then her parents say, oh, well, that's her truth. So let's...
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Well, they're idiots. I mean, they're really just idiots. And people have to understand that.
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But it's more than that. It's a real... It's a mass psychosis where we believe that any truth
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is truth, that anything someone says is truth. And what that...
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Well, you say we. We don't. I really believe this. I mean, when you look at poll after poll,
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nearly three-fourths of the country say that we're headed in the wrong direction, that this president,
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a majority say he's unfit to be in the job, and the corporatist media proceeds as if he is just
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an avuncular figure in the White House with interesting idiosyncratic behavior and is just
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fine otherwise. I mean, this is the sort of nonsense that goes on. We have a media, an entertainment
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industry, a news industry that are playing with alternative realities at their pleasure.
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But the fact is, the American people are fooled by none of it.
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Well, unfortunately, I think there's a lot of power in this philosophy that underpins,
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especially with young people, that underpins their worldview, which is that you don't want
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to judge anyone by denying their truth that that's being intolerant. And so, therefore...
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Yes, yes. But I mean, this is the story of indoctrination. This is a story...
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It is. ...of what we've allowed in our public schools, what we have allowed to happen to
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parental rights, what we've allowed on the part of two powerful teachers unions, and the
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Marxist left of this country that controls the Democratic Party now.
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Exactly. Exactly. Lou, that's the problem. And the media. You know, when you have the AP style
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book now getting into bed with these notions of pregnant men and chest-feeding men, you know,
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erasing the word... You know, I hate to bust any bubbles, but, you know, men are not going to be
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having babies, right? I'm just going to be brutal about it. That's just stupid. And people who want
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to have a discussion about it will not do so within my earshot, because I'm going to call them out for
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the fools they are. Yes. And I don't understand why people put up with this. What is the point of
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putting up with this kind of psychotic behavior that you wouldn't tolerate on any other issue?
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Well, I think, Lou, there's a lot of cowardice afoot. People are terrified.
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I buy that. They're all Paul Ryans out there right now.
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Yeah, all cowards. And not all. I mean, there are people, I think, in the Republican Party,
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especially a new generation coming in that have been red-pilled by the last few years. I mean,
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they saw how President Trump was demonized, how that Russia collusion lie was weaponized against
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his administration. And I think that people are seeing now, Michael Avenatti, he's just been
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sentenced to four years in jail. You know, people who once were idols of the left, they're coming,
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Here's part of the independent... As we wrap up here, I've just got to ask you this,
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because I think it is one of the special things to come out. Thanks, frankly, to Matt Gaetz and Jim
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Jordan, two outstanding Republican congressmen. The FBI, we now learn, thanks to a whistleblower,
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that the FBI maintains a workspace, including computer portal, inside the Democratic law firm
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of Perkins Coy. And they have been there for the past decade. Are you kidding me? What is bigger than
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Isn't that incredible? And Michael Sussman, the Clinton lawyer, was in charge of that joint workspace.
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No wonder he had such a cozy relationship with the FBI. They knew exactly what he was bringing to them
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when he came to sort of whitewash and launder that complete garbage that made up opposition research
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against Donald Trump. They knew what he was doing on the seventh floor. They knew. They were all on fire
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about it, we were told in one of the pieces of evidence in that trial. They were all in on it.
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The seventh floor, which is the leadership of the FBI, that institution is corrupt.
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Well, Lou, what should be done about that? I mean, do we need the FBI?
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I will tell you what I think has to be done. We have to form a national commission
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on reforming the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department, and we've got to do it now.
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And we've got to give them authority, subpoena authority of a massive nature, and understand,
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have a very strong discussion with the U.S. Marshals, that they will be making arrests.
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And they will be making arrests of fellow law enforcement and federal officials who have broken
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the law. And we've got to do it now. That is the essential truth. It cannot go beyond that.
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And it doesn't have to be bipartisan. We'll do it the same way the Democrats do. All Republicans on
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the commission and two Democrats, you know, name your poison. But this has to happen right after
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this election. And finally, we're hearing that elections in Georgia and Alabama were, there was
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cheating. We are also hearing that the White House right now is preparing to pull off a Zuckerberg-like
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operation, but only using federal money. Do we have a chance of an unrigged election in 2022?
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Well, I hope that, you know, Republicans in every state are aware of this and alert to the fact they
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should know by now what happened in 2020 can't happen again. And I wouldn't be surprised if
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there's some sort of snap, you know, COVID alert that means that there's going to be more mail-in
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ballots and more last-minute rule changes. The Democrats will stop at nothing. And I really think
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that for every average person out there, the one thing you could do is get out and vote. If you vote
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overwhelmingly, the cheaters can't prosper. Right. And by overwhelmingly, I presume you don't mean
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numerous times. Not more than once. No. But just get out there. Don't sit on the couch.
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Miranda Devine, we appreciate everything you do, Miranda. Your column is brilliant as are you.
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And we thank you so much for joining us here on The Great America Show.
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I really appreciate it. Lou, love talking to you.
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us. Tomorrow, our guest is Congressman Troy Nels of Texas.
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He's calling on President Biden to use the invasion clause of the Constitution to stop
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illegal immigration. He also was standing guard over the Capitol on January 6th. And the Capitol
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police subsequently entered his office illegally to spy on him. It's quite a story. You don't want to
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miss it. That's here tomorrow on The Great America Show. Till then, God bless you. And God bless America.