The Great America Show - January 28, 2025


PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

189.95892

Word Count

10,714

Sentence Count

872

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

The Great America Show with John Avlon and Mike Lillie Lindell. President Trump puts the Rhinos on notice. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., and Kash Patel have hearings before the Senate, and a senior White House official tells NBC News it's a pass-fail situation.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.
00:00:04.940 It's great to have you with us today.
00:00:06.080 Thanks so much for joining us.
00:00:07.300 President Trump putting the rhinos on notice.
00:00:10.380 If you don't support his cabinet picks, you might not be there in 2026 or when you're
00:00:16.360 up for reelection.
00:00:17.660 On the docket this week, Tulsi Gabbard, who's up for director of national intelligence,
00:00:21.340 RFK Jr. for HHS, and of course, Kash Patel for the director of the FBI.
00:00:26.760 Kennedy has a hearing before the Senate on Wednesday.
00:00:30.100 Kash Patel has a hearing on Thursday.
00:00:32.180 A senior White House official telling NBC News it's pass-fail.
00:00:36.180 You either support everyone or you do not.
00:00:38.800 Senate needs to advise and consent, not advise and adjust.
00:00:42.640 Now, there's rhino senators all over the place.
00:00:44.620 The recent nomination of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth passed on a 50-50 majority, with
00:00:50.020 of course, J.D. Vance making it inconvenient for him to go down there and cast the tie-winning
00:00:54.760 vote.
00:00:55.100 This was, of course, due to the defections of none other than Senator Froghorn Leghorn,
00:00:59.840 Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, and Susan Collins of Maine.
00:01:04.940 It's the same culprits time and time again.
00:01:07.700 These people just don't learn their lessons.
00:01:09.300 Now, it's the same trifecta of rhinos who are threatening to sink Tulsi Gabbard's nomination
00:01:13.520 with maybe the addition of Senators John Curtis of Utah.
00:01:17.280 Utah.
00:01:17.700 They don't seem to put out any good senators.
00:01:19.720 I don't know what goes on there, but you guys need to get it together.
00:01:22.600 Lindsey Graham, also known as Lady G of South Carolina, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, John
00:01:28.340 Thune, the newly elected Senate Majority Leader of South Dakota, all have indicated they're
00:01:33.260 reluctant to confirm Gabbard, a two-tour combat veteran.
00:01:36.360 We expect repercussions to come if these rhinos decide they want to try to start tanking the
00:01:45.100 America First agenda.
00:01:46.620 I fully expect everyone to pass the Senate nomination process.
00:01:52.100 And border czar Tom Holman, perhaps the hardest-working man in America, has declared war on the terrorist
00:01:57.120 cartels following the Rio Grande fight.
00:01:59.520 It was a firefight involving Border Patrol agents.
00:02:02.780 Tom Holman, perhaps, like I said, the hardest-working man of the Trump administration, getting to
00:02:07.740 work on day one, holding back no punches.
00:02:11.100 The deportations are already underway.
00:02:13.720 We're just eight days into this administration.
00:02:16.380 Thousands have been deported.
00:02:18.540 And we expect thousands more.
00:02:20.260 You had the fight between the president of Columbia and President Trump.
00:02:23.580 We all know who won that one.
00:02:25.480 And President Trump, announcing his administration, has ordered a sweeping freeze on all federal
00:02:30.820 grants and loans effective today.
00:02:34.000 This initiative reflects President Trump's unwavering commitment to fiscal responsibility
00:02:37.840 and his dedication to eliminating wasteful spending.
00:02:41.440 And we know in this government, there's far too much of it.
00:02:45.020 Our guest today is the great Mike Lindell.
00:02:47.400 He's the founder of MyPillow, founder and CEO of MyPillow.
00:02:50.280 He's also the founder and CEO of the Lindell Recovery Network.
00:02:53.660 Mike, it's great to have you back with us on the show.
00:02:55.980 I haven't spoken to you since Donald Trump won that decisive election on November 5th.
00:03:00.080 He had an inauguration just over a week ago.
00:03:02.780 And it seems we're getting more done in this last seven to eight days, nine days, than we
00:03:08.440 did in the last four years, whether it be this border that we're finally getting under
00:03:12.000 control, whether it be Donald Trump replacing and restructuring the IRS, those 87,000 agents
00:03:20.080 that the Biden administration hired, maybe sending them down to the border or firing them.
00:03:25.540 We can go down the list.
00:03:26.800 Your thoughts as we look at this first week now of Donald Trump being back in the White
00:03:31.300 House.
00:03:32.380 Well, it's even more than I could ever imagine.
00:03:34.460 If you'd have told me a couple, three weeks ago, all to be done.
00:03:39.740 And, you know, I would have said this is impossible that you can't get that much done.
00:03:45.080 But, you know, part of that is he learned so much from the last eight years, right?
00:03:50.920 The four years and then four years of the bad.
00:03:53.040 So all this was very well planned out, well prepared for.
00:03:57.820 He put people in place and just takes out each thing as a problem solution, problem solution,
00:04:03.960 problem solution.
00:04:05.260 That's his gift.
00:04:06.980 And you got, I mean, and then you've got God's hand and all this and they combine and it's
00:04:11.640 like, this is miracles we're seeing.
00:04:13.280 And it's really cool, John, that I talk to people and, you know, that before you wouldn't
00:04:22.180 even argue with them from center left, right?
00:04:24.480 And they would, you know, this is bad.
00:04:26.060 This is bad.
00:04:26.900 The only one, even the media can't get away with it.
00:04:29.060 As you see our vice president going, you know, with the Margaret comment, you know, I don't
00:04:34.520 care, Margaret, you know.
00:04:35.520 But when I look at, you know, the, just like, I think it's 56 or 58%, I can't even be fact
00:04:46.200 checked anymore because the fact checkers got fired.
00:04:49.140 But at somewhere 56, 58% of the people, of all people polled, say, we got to get rid of
00:04:55.460 these illegals.
00:04:56.260 We got to get them back over the border, get them out of here.
00:04:58.980 I mean, that's a big number.
00:05:00.620 That's, you know, everybody, and part of that is everybody got to live both the good and
00:05:06.880 then the bad.
00:05:08.420 And, you know, you can't argue that anymore.
00:05:10.880 You say, here's four years with Donald Trump.
00:05:12.960 Here's four years with whatever was in there illegally.
00:05:15.700 I say illegally because they never won the 2020 election.
00:05:19.520 But, yeah, so it's, everything that happened was actually God's perfect timing.
00:05:26.580 You got this, this, and where we're going.
00:05:30.620 It's funny, you said there's no more fact checkers.
00:05:32.820 Last time we'd spoken, I think we made it on Jimmy Kimmel somewhere.
00:05:36.940 They said Mike Gundel needs to be fact checked.
00:05:38.960 They said something like that.
00:05:40.020 So let's see if Jimmy Kimmel's watching and has a little meltdown about you saying that.
00:05:45.120 But, you know, it seems like it's a new dawn and it's a new day in this country.
00:05:49.920 Optimism is running so high.
00:05:51.740 Across the board, every aspect of the government, Donald Trump seems to be, have a grapple on what's going on.
00:06:02.540 Just this week, we saw him in North Carolina and we saw him over in California.
00:06:07.920 And he held nothing back.
00:06:10.420 He had Karen fast at the table with him, Gavin Newsom.
00:06:14.080 And he basically called all these people out for their lies.
00:06:17.860 The thing that made no sense to me is he's over in North Carolina, no issues, right?
00:06:22.540 Sends the Army Corps of Engineers in there the next day, right?
00:06:26.320 These hurricanes happened months ago.
00:06:28.440 Sends the Army Corps of Engineers in there to start rebuilding, start cleaning up some debris,
00:06:32.300 getting bridges and roads back together so these people can restart their lives.
00:06:36.200 And they're in there the next day.
00:06:38.040 And it makes you wonder, Mike, what took the Biden administration a month, two months to take care of these people?
00:06:45.180 But then you go look and I say to myself, OK, maybe it's a red issue.
00:06:48.260 Maybe they want to help them because it's a red issue.
00:06:50.560 But then you go and look over in California and you've got that idiot Karen Bass and you've got Gavin Newsom.
00:06:56.240 And they're not letting these people back in their house for at least a month.
00:06:59.120 Now, it makes zero sense because in most of these places, the fires are out.
00:07:03.680 There's nothing there, Mike.
00:07:04.740 There's no house there to be there.
00:07:07.560 There's no dangers there.
00:07:08.780 It's ash and it's rubble.
00:07:10.700 President Trump comes in and sits at this roundtable and says, no, these people need to be back in their homes, not in a week, in just a few days.
00:07:18.060 And Karen Bass, the mayor of L.A., somehow in the matter of 24 hours, flips the script.
00:07:23.820 And these people are allowed to go back in their houses.
00:07:25.740 What was a month now turns into days.
00:07:28.200 I mean, is the government that inefficient?
00:07:31.380 What's behind this blatant corruption or inefficiency?
00:07:35.540 Well, it's their it's their whole belief system, too.
00:07:38.860 I'm from, you know, Minnesota, where all this bureaucracy and all this garbage of, you know, if Donald Trump had not went to California and put her on the spot, she put her on the spot.
00:07:51.000 She had to say, oh, no, you can go back into your land, your own land.
00:07:55.500 I mean, here's a state where they're not arresting people for smoking crack cocaine in the streets or whatever, or robbing convenience stores if you steal under a thousand dollars or whatever it is.
00:08:07.960 I mean, but yet you're telling people, what are you going to do to me if I don't go back on my property?
00:08:12.720 And she said, well, it's for their safety.
00:08:15.500 And Donald Trump says, our great real president, he says, safety, they're not safe now.
00:08:20.560 It was great.
00:08:21.480 It was like he and the difference is here's the difference that we're seeing is the media is covering that.
00:08:28.980 Even Fox News covering stuff, you know, finally with Donald Trump and by putting her on the spot and you've got all the other stations, too.
00:08:37.660 You're seeing ends of the world.
00:08:39.120 They know that they if they don't show these things, you know, they're you know, I'm sure they're going, you know, boy, we don't want to show what common sense this is rather not just Donald Trump, but now this new common sense party.
00:08:52.380 Well, they have to.
00:08:53.480 And she was put on the spot.
00:08:55.260 He is very good at that.
00:08:56.520 He's got it.
00:08:57.400 If you notice, though, he's got just a complete calm demeanor.
00:09:01.520 He did it with such grace.
00:09:03.480 I mean, God's got his hand on him for this.
00:09:05.820 I mean, I have seen this.
00:09:07.600 It's just amazing.
00:09:09.120 Here's, you know, like put her on the spot.
00:09:11.060 Well, I think a week's too long.
00:09:12.480 If everybody watches it, I think a week's too long.
00:09:14.800 Why can't they go back in now?
00:09:16.380 You know, he's seeing people that this was the biggest request there.
00:09:19.340 Had he not gone there, some of them said they were told 18 months, 18 months they're going to start cleaning up.
00:09:26.120 I'll tell you what, you know, he's spot on.
00:09:30.420 You know, I just can't see how they could even hold people.
00:09:33.560 But they're so brainwashed.
00:09:35.540 A lot of these people in California.
00:09:38.640 Don't get me wrong.
00:09:39.400 I love California.
00:09:40.440 That's what, you know.
00:09:41.140 But they've been brainwashed by this party, this, you call it the Democrat Party.
00:09:47.480 I mean, this is just disgusting.
00:09:49.320 That, oh, you know, this is, you know, we got to save this over here.
00:09:53.500 We got to do this over here.
00:09:54.820 And, boy, this is for your own safety.
00:09:56.660 It's like this old government.
00:09:57.940 I like what he said, too.
00:09:59.420 He said, hey, take away the regulations on the rebuilding.
00:10:03.200 If they want to make it bigger and beautiful, let them go out more than they had.
00:10:07.860 You know, don't lock this in and go there with measuring tapes and say, you know, all these crazy things that were put into effect.
00:10:15.760 And not just California, Minnesota, all these places, these big Democrat-controlled cities that none of this stuff works.
00:10:23.640 Because by the time you wait, it's over.
00:10:27.000 It's too late.
00:10:28.080 Everything they have left now is hope that Donald Trump brought them there and common sense.
00:10:35.420 And this is big.
00:10:37.480 I really think it's a lot because the media is showing this.
00:10:41.360 And he is so smart, our great president, that he knows she got put right on the spot.
00:10:46.880 I thought that was one of the classic moves.
00:10:49.040 Well, weeks too long, oh, no, they can go on their properties now.
00:10:51.600 You heard her say that.
00:10:52.900 I mean, the whole world's here.
00:10:54.560 Did you just hear that?
00:10:56.460 We had a mayor that actually said, you know, you can go do this.
00:11:00.320 I mean, I'll bet you they were just celebrating in L.A. going, are you kidding me?
00:11:04.040 We can do that?
00:11:05.320 You know?
00:11:06.200 It makes zero sense to me.
00:11:08.080 You know, I was I spent some time over on the West Coast over the last week or so, and I was talking to a couple I met in Vegas about they're from California.
00:11:19.500 And I started talking to them about the wildfires.
00:11:22.240 And I wanted to gauge if they were Republican or Democrat without asking.
00:11:26.460 You know, we started talking and a buddy of mine says to them, you know, if we didn't give Ukraine a billion dollars, we could, you know, rebuild California.
00:11:33.460 And they sat there and they said, well, a billion dollars wouldn't have mattered.
00:11:37.120 You know, you could give them the money to Ukraine and we could have still rebuilt it.
00:11:40.100 It wouldn't have stopped the wildfire.
00:11:41.300 So I knew right then and there that their mindset was that these people were out.
00:11:44.400 Then I mentioned the seven hundred seventy dollars that the federal government has given these Californians.
00:11:49.420 And it's a slap in the face.
00:11:50.520 It's a total joke.
00:11:51.820 Seven hundred and seventy dollars.
00:11:53.360 Most of these houses in the Pacific Palisades are up upwards of two to three million dollars.
00:11:57.460 So seven hundred seventy dollars and I start arguing with these people and they're saying, well, the water can't get up there.
00:12:03.580 Gravity doesn't feed upwards.
00:12:05.460 And I'm saying, well, you believe we put a man on the moon, right?
00:12:08.720 OK, if we put a man on the moon some some time ago, you're telling me that we can't pump water up into the hills.
00:12:15.400 We have the most sophisticated some of the most sophisticated military systems in the in the world.
00:12:19.760 You're telling me we can't pump water up into the Pacific Palisades.
00:12:22.660 Right. To me, it's this mindset of these people.
00:12:25.560 And I often ask myself and the guests on the show, when are you going to wake up?
00:12:30.420 When are the people going to wake up and stop voting in these narcissistic psychopaths who don't care about you?
00:12:38.540 Karen Bass doesn't care if you're dead, if your house is burned.
00:12:41.340 She doesn't care, you know, if your dog is saved.
00:12:44.440 It's the mindset of these people.
00:12:46.080 They're in it for themselves.
00:12:47.140 Gavin Newsom, another one.
00:12:48.460 And the guy was out locking people down during covid as he's out in French laundry in Napa Valley having dinner.
00:12:54.600 I mean, what is it going to take, Mike, for these people, these left?
00:12:59.420 I don't even know what you'd call them.
00:13:01.140 I'm trying to be nice about it.
00:13:02.140 But what is it going to take for them to wake up if this California wildfire situation did not wake them up?
00:13:09.240 Well, John, I believe they've already woke up.
00:13:12.120 You know, you've got this bucket, the common sense bucket.
00:13:15.580 And I was telling the president this a long time ago, people are pouring in, sir, over the last four years.
00:13:20.400 I said, the more things they see, it's opening people's eyes.
00:13:24.060 Now, I will tell you this.
00:13:26.080 You know, yes, there's some that will never wake up.
00:13:28.220 They've been brainwashed too long.
00:13:29.700 But as we keep pulling from people into this bucket of common sense, and it's going to happen more and more every day because they're not going to have the media to keep brainwashing them
00:13:40.520 because it's too late to close the gate, the cows are out of the barn.
00:13:44.540 If you did, now I'm going to segue into what I stand for, and that's securing our elections, getting to paper ballots, hand counted, same-day voting, voter ID.
00:13:55.560 We're not giving up on that.
00:13:56.900 And we're never giving up on that.
00:13:58.680 That's what my teams are doing.
00:14:00.800 Now, if we had a secure, and our real president said this, if we had a real election without machines, a secure election, it's overwhelming.
00:14:13.320 It's 70% now, I believe, red out there, easy.
00:14:16.520 You have places that are blue, that are purple.
00:14:19.100 You have places that are purple, that are red.
00:14:21.080 Red is bright red.
00:14:22.660 You go to places like Arkansas and Alabama and South Dakota, these places, that they've kept the numbers down.
00:14:30.360 They're bright red.
00:14:31.820 And so people have woke up, and I think what's going to happen, you know, you have the friends, like I said, that aren't going to be – yeah, you say, what's it going to take?
00:14:43.000 It's going to keep taking things like these to pull everybody.
00:14:45.920 But you're getting people over here that are seeing now.
00:14:48.800 They're hearing it from people that were over there.
00:14:51.100 They need to hear it from their own people that were there, brainwashed with them and get, hey, I've seen the light.
00:14:56.920 And you're seeing that all across our country.
00:14:59.620 That's what you're seeing.
00:15:01.180 I mean, you may never have a Democrat or even the old Republican.
00:15:07.420 I call it the uniparty Republican.
00:15:09.580 This common sense party is a uniting.
00:15:12.360 Donald Trump's the best uniter in history.
00:15:15.240 I mean, this is what – it's just uniting, uniting people.
00:15:18.340 Once you're in this bucket, once you see the light, it's over.
00:15:22.020 You're going to be in that bucket going, wow, that all makes sense.
00:15:25.360 It all makes sense, you know.
00:15:27.720 But the hardest part for me is, and I try to do it every single day, is to bring people into that bucket.
00:15:32.840 Like I said, I'm over in the West Coast, and I'm skiing in an area, Mike, Donald Trump lost 75-25.
00:15:38.560 He got absolutely annihilated in this San Miguel County, Colorado.
00:15:43.080 So I made it a point to wear my Trump hat out on the ski slopes every single day.
00:15:47.720 And the looks I was getting from people, Mike, maybe three or four people gave me the thumbs up.
00:15:52.040 But there were people walking by telling me it's nice that we have a dictator as a president.
00:15:57.000 And I'm sitting there, and I asked this woman who said he's a dictator.
00:15:59.520 What makes him a dictator?
00:16:00.360 He's a dictator.
00:16:01.200 What makes him a dictator?
00:16:02.220 And they can't answer it.
00:16:03.900 They can't answer it.
00:16:04.760 He's a racist.
00:16:05.660 He's a xenophobia.
00:16:06.320 It's the same playbook from 2016 that he's this bad person.
00:16:10.200 But they cannot ever give a justification or a point as to what makes him those things.
00:16:15.920 No, you're exactly right.
00:16:17.480 And I made a comment back in 2016.
00:16:21.200 I said, everybody loves our president.
00:16:23.580 Some just don't know it yet.
00:16:25.500 And, John, this is a spectrum here, okay, of all the people from back then, okay?
00:16:30.500 Now, you had people on the right, but the never-Trumpers, right, the never-Trumpers or whatever, and the people over here that were skeptical.
00:16:38.260 You had something different.
00:16:39.500 He's a non-politician, a businessman.
00:16:42.400 So as this keeps moving over and sliding over, you get people.
00:16:47.500 Back in 2016, on my Facebook, I could put up a picture of me and whoever, and I'd get thousands of likes.
00:16:55.300 I'd put up a picture of me and Donald Trump, and I'd get one like.
00:16:57.940 You'd think I was getting shadow banned on Facebook.
00:16:59.800 No, people were afraid to come on board.
00:17:02.540 Even though they liked Trump, they were afraid to come on board.
00:17:05.980 Now, that ship sailed, and they're all on board.
00:17:08.700 And then as you get into here, like when you were walking down the streets, I do it all the time.
00:17:13.100 I'll be right in the inner city of Chicago.
00:17:14.740 It don't matter.
00:17:15.800 You will get its change.
00:17:17.760 You'll get one.
00:17:18.560 The person that came up to you and might have said something to you, he makes sure that there's not people within earshot because he's a coward.
00:17:25.420 There's a coward.
00:17:26.160 Those are the ones that are there now.
00:17:27.440 He used to say it right in front of everybody, and they're going, yeah, yeah, yeah, getting these people that didn't really agree with him, but now they've moved away, so he's all alone.
00:17:36.520 That person is alone, and they're going to continue to be alone.
00:17:40.440 Then you have this group over here that have jumped in and said, you know what, I'm not going to speak out for Donald Trump, but I'm all for this.
00:17:47.660 This is great.
00:17:48.660 So you see how this is shifting, and pretty soon it's all united, and you have this fringe over here that's not going to change.
00:17:56.860 And for those to change, the media would have to go the other way and start saying the truth to these people over here and going, hey, we were wrong.
00:18:07.400 We were deceitful.
00:18:08.540 We were lying.
00:18:09.320 We were like the Facebook fact checkers that covered up the truth every single day.
00:18:14.240 Yeah.
00:18:14.560 You know, I'm fine with that, the silent majority of folks.
00:18:17.420 I'm fine.
00:18:17.940 Not everybody, Mike, can be as vocal as you and I.
00:18:20.320 People have jobs.
00:18:21.140 I understand there's repercussions that people have to deal with for supporting Donald Trump.
00:18:26.060 It shouldn't be that way.
00:18:27.140 I'm not justifying it.
00:18:28.320 I'm not saying it's right.
00:18:29.180 It should never be that way.
00:18:30.260 That's not America.
00:18:31.680 But I'm fine with those folks who have to stay silent because they have these good jobs in Wall Street.
00:18:36.580 They have these good jobs where they have to be, and they support him behind the scenes.
00:18:39.780 That's fine.
00:18:40.360 That's just as good, Mike.
00:18:41.380 It's a vote's a vote, right?
00:18:42.700 One vote, one person.
00:18:44.280 Or if you're the Democrats, it's three, four votes, one person.
00:18:47.460 But, you know, that's just as good with me.
00:18:50.160 I want to take a quick break here, Mike.
00:18:51.860 We're talking with the great Mike Lindell of MyPillow.
00:18:54.340 When we return, I want to talk about the media and the accountability.
00:18:57.580 You and I really aren't fans of the media.
00:19:01.060 We have someone who may be leaving a very big news network.
00:19:04.440 It's a man with Trump derangement syndrome.
00:19:06.080 We have some news to break on the other side of this break.
00:19:08.720 We'll come right back with Mike Lindell.
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00:20:12.940 Folks, we're back with the great Mike Lindell.
00:20:17.020 And right before we went to break there, I promised we had some news to you, news to give to you.
00:20:22.680 This is some reporting from Oliver Darcy, who left CNN to start his own news organization called Status News.
00:20:29.840 Darcy is reporting that Jim Acosta, within a matter of days or weeks, is out at CNN.
00:20:35.720 This came after CNN threatened to move Acosta to 2 a.m., midnight or 2 a.m. for a showtime.
00:20:43.720 Everyone knows that's a graveyard shift, Mike.
00:20:45.520 And there's nobody watching CNN during the day.
00:20:47.740 So what can you imagine is happening at midnight, 2 a.m.?
00:20:51.340 The only place, by the way, I ever see CNN on, as I travel a lot, is in the airports.
00:20:56.180 It's really the only place.
00:20:57.200 And I think that's where they're getting their ratings.
00:20:58.720 But this might be, Mike, a step in the right direction.
00:21:02.020 This is a man with severe Trump derangement syndrome, a man who cannot fathom truth and facts.
00:21:06.580 But I think if there's a place for Jim Acosta to go, it's to go work with Adam Schiff, because they have the very same mindset of lying and deceitfulness.
00:21:14.500 Your thoughts?
00:21:15.760 Well, it shows you that CNN is shifting.
00:21:19.600 And I've always said this for a long time.
00:21:22.000 The media on the left helped save our country.
00:21:25.400 They did.
00:21:26.280 They attacked and attacked when places like Fox News and Newsmax went silent and wouldn't talk about the 2020 election.
00:21:34.480 All conservative media went silent.
00:21:36.960 They, by those guys attacking and attacking, and our voices kept on saying, hey, we've got problems.
00:21:42.680 We have problems.
00:21:43.580 And if they didn't attack, if they're just silent, it's a bad deal.
00:21:47.640 That's when I formed Lindell TV, by the way, you know, back then in the spring of 21.
00:21:53.460 And I want to talk about Jim Acosta in particular.
00:21:57.300 When I was seen at the White House, a very famous picture of me on the phone, and all the media comes over the hill, and they had papers I was given from some lawyers.
00:22:05.500 To the real president at the time.
00:22:08.020 And I remember I called a quick call because I have all the left media on my phone, all of them, every single reporter.
00:22:17.120 And I'm on the phone with one telling him what really was the story from that famous White House picture.
00:22:23.800 This is the day it happened, within minutes of what had happened.
00:22:26.540 And the next one that beamed in, Jim Acosta, and I go, he goes, Mike, Mike, Mike, you're at the White House, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:31.780 And I go, Jim?
00:22:32.880 I go, I'm on the phone with the real reporter.
00:22:35.920 I said, do you want to hold?
00:22:36.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:38.040 He helped for 35 minutes.
00:22:39.960 Okay, now, and as we, as I actually became really kind of strange friends with all these guys, you know, and now Jim, the last time he called me was, basically, when these guys call me, I filibust them.
00:22:55.120 I just don't, I just keep talking.
00:22:56.860 And I remember Jim, I'm sitting in a hallway at some big event, and he's going, Mike, Mike.
00:23:00.860 I said, Jim, I'm trying to secure our elections and save your country so you have a job.
00:23:06.960 And Jim goes, oh, you got it all figured out, huh?
00:23:08.760 And I go, and he goes, well, and then he said his thing, and he goes, and I always know where their hit job's coming from, what they're going to do.
00:23:15.280 And Jim tries to, you know, come from a different angle.
00:23:18.060 And I go, Jim, you know, this is reality.
00:23:20.900 So I start telling him, he goes, Mike, I know you're busy.
00:23:22.780 I know you're busy.
00:23:24.100 And I go, no, Jim, I got it all day.
00:23:26.320 If you hang up the phone, you can lose my number.
00:23:28.800 So none of these guys, if they call me, they're going to get an earful.
00:23:33.260 And Jim, he was the one that attacked me when I went in the Rose Garden and spoke out in the spring of 20, right before the China virus from the Rose Garden.
00:23:47.300 Jim was one of the, you know, one of the interviews.
00:23:49.980 I did 109 interviews, but Jim was attacking.
00:23:52.960 He was the one that went on an attack.
00:23:54.480 And then you got the pillow guy talking about God from the Rose Garden.
00:23:59.360 At least he acknowledged that there was a God, right?
00:24:01.840 You know, Jesus Christ.
00:24:03.400 But they, and then I went on, by the way, then I went on Lou's show.
00:24:06.700 That's the first time I went on Lou's show back then.
00:24:09.260 And I had Lou just laughing.
00:24:11.320 I go, Lou, they're all just evil, just pure evil.
00:24:13.820 And I'll remember him belly laughing on his show.
00:24:16.080 So, but I'm going to, you know, and Jim hasn't called in a long, long time.
00:24:21.200 And some of them, you know, and some, this is what I'm sitting here missing.
00:24:25.420 I go, wow, they're not even attacking me right now.
00:24:28.100 And I do need to keep getting the word out that we've got to get to paper ballots, hand counted.
00:24:33.000 But it's a big shift at CNN.
00:24:34.960 And they know that just by bashing, even their own audience sees all the good things that are happening now.
00:24:42.900 And then, and all the bad things they went through in four years.
00:24:45.960 So they don't believe CNN anymore.
00:24:48.140 They're not going to put up with that.
00:24:49.840 That's why you got the worst one.
00:24:51.180 They want to move till after midnight.
00:24:53.220 You know, I would like to have Jim over at my Vindale TV.
00:24:57.440 I would hire him in a heartbeat just for comedy, just for people to have.
00:25:00.880 Can you imagine having a, having him there going, you know.
00:25:03.780 Oh my goodness.
00:25:05.120 Breaking news, breaking news.
00:25:06.460 Donald Trump, you know, it would just be, it would be, you know, it would be like, you know, a comedy.
00:25:12.360 I never thought I'd see a day where the attacks on you would relent.
00:25:16.500 But it seems like, you know, I haven't even thought about it.
00:25:18.760 But it seems like over the last two months or so, the attacks on you have sort of, I'm not going to say stopped because they definitely haven't stopped you.
00:25:26.400 You know, you're being attacked from every angle for these last two months from Colorado secretaries of state to the federal government.
00:25:33.780 To this, but it seems like they've maybe relented on you a little bit.
00:25:38.320 But the way I see it as Mike is they have so much to deal with right now.
00:25:41.600 These left mainstream media, I mean, every mainstream media outlets left us, but they have so much to deal with.
00:25:47.960 And speaking of Jim Acosta, the last time I watched Jim was earlier this week.
00:25:51.600 He was on with Tim Burchett of Tennessee, who's just a Tim Burchett is the congressman from Tennessee is probably one of the nicest, most likable people you'll ever meet.
00:26:00.460 He's nice to everybody left, right, doesn't matter what you are.
00:26:04.040 And Acosta gets him on there and tries to steamroll him.
00:26:06.200 And I've never seen Tim get angry, but he had had enough with him.
00:26:10.660 And he absolutely levels him.
00:26:12.000 And it was with the January 6th stuff.
00:26:14.220 So I actually want to get your thoughts on this as we segue into this.
00:26:17.060 The January 6th, I often get asked, should everybody have been pardoned?
00:26:20.900 Should the nonviolent people have been pardoned?
00:26:22.780 Should the people who have been violent not been pardoned?
00:26:25.060 What do you think?
00:26:25.880 And the way I look at it, Mike, is the DOJ overcharged probably everybody.
00:26:32.020 Well, there are 1,500 of them.
00:26:33.220 They overcharged everybody.
00:26:34.280 So how do you differentiate who actually did violent things and who didn't?
00:26:39.960 If you opened a door, maybe they said you forcefully entered the building.
00:26:43.400 That can be considered a violent protester, okay?
00:26:46.580 DOJ charges you with that.
00:26:48.740 I'm happy he pardoned every single person.
00:26:51.300 We know we had 30-something government informants that day.
00:26:53.620 I think it was probably higher than that.
00:26:55.940 How many of them did destruction, Mike?
00:26:57.480 How many of them were charged?
00:26:58.880 Because as far as I'm concerned, it's against every FBI policy to partake in any crimes as a federal informant.
00:27:06.760 So if you did do destruction there or you did incite violence or incite an insurrection, you're a criminal.
00:27:13.620 What's your thoughts on President Trump's pardons?
00:27:16.500 Well, first, I'm going to unpack what you first said about the attacks on me.
00:27:19.780 They're actually higher than now than they've ever been.
00:27:21.840 And you just don't see it in the media.
00:27:24.140 Keith Ellison is attacking my Lindell Recovery Network.
00:27:27.700 You've got the IRS.
00:27:28.840 It's massively attacking me for different things.
00:27:32.680 And going back to 20 and 21, the years that I would fight, you know, with the stolen election.
00:27:40.960 So that's going on.
00:27:42.200 And MyPill is the most attacked company in history.
00:27:45.100 Now, why are they still attacking me?
00:27:46.740 They're attacking me because I want to get rid of the voting machines and go to paper ballots, hand counted.
00:27:51.660 And they know, I know that.
00:27:52.900 They're going to be, if we can, everyone else going, well, most people, our great President Donald Trump's in, it's over.
00:27:59.160 Look at, we won.
00:28:00.000 We don't have to worry about elections.
00:28:01.220 Well, I got news, everybody.
00:28:02.720 They stole four senators minimum in this last election and at least nine congressmen.
00:28:07.600 We've got to secure our elections before the midterms.
00:28:10.600 That's one bucket.
00:28:11.500 As far as the January 6th, yeah, complete pardon across the board.
00:28:15.880 Even if they did, I know some that did, that did fight back, that did break.
00:28:20.760 They've been in prison for four years without even, you know, this is craziness.
00:28:25.460 When you've got something, you know, criminals, they've let out, they've done stuff that they just let off the hook.
00:28:31.020 Where do you draw the line and be subjective on each one?
00:28:34.180 You know, it should have never happened.
00:28:36.080 It was a setup.
00:28:37.340 It was a total setup.
00:28:39.060 We know that.
00:28:39.820 And, you know, the way I see it is, you know, unless you went back in and said, well, this one's did this.
00:28:51.740 And let's say you say, okay, this one's did this.
00:28:55.180 And you segregate it out and say, well, gee, the punishment should be, it should have been two years or he's already done four.
00:29:02.500 I mean, it could go through each one.
00:29:03.940 And I'm sure they had a team go through them all and say, you know what?
00:29:07.940 This is a master.
00:29:08.860 It's just, pardon them, put this behind us for what it was.
00:29:13.080 It was a way to silence the memory.
00:29:15.300 You remember, John, I have said the two most important days, I believe, in our country's history will be January 7th and 8th of 21.
00:29:24.500 The day after the January 6th, the reason is, is everyone on the, when you woke up on January 7th, 1.2 million Americans are de-platformed because of, if you talked about the election, if you talked down about Jesus Christ or if you talked against the vaccine, it was like they saved it all up.
00:29:43.160 De-platformed everybody off, sucker bucks, Facebook, Jack Dorsey's corrupt Twitter, YouTube, Vimeo, everything.
00:29:49.920 You were silent.
00:29:50.600 You were gone.
00:29:51.720 Yeah, the president lost his Twitter.
00:29:53.220 Remember, 100 million people.
00:29:54.380 And the rest of the people were put into fear.
00:29:58.800 They wouldn't even think about saying anything now about what really went on on January 6th.
00:30:04.580 Yeah, it was a very tragic day for our country.
00:30:06.820 But you know what?
00:30:07.960 And you look back, all these things had to happen to get to where we're at.
00:30:13.020 I've said it before.
00:30:14.060 God uses all things for good.
00:30:16.120 A lot of those people that were in there, I know they ended up being saved, became born-again Christians, and a lot of them in there, their families and stuff looking at the outside.
00:30:24.260 And the nonsensical, there's many people on the left that were, you know, the brainwurst going, hey, this is wrong.
00:30:30.860 You know, when the truth started coming out about what really went on, this is wrong.
00:30:34.540 You know, this is a friend of mine, and he just went down there in a peaceful rally.
00:30:39.340 John, I spoke at the Supreme Court out in front.
00:30:43.180 I was the emcee on December 14th of 2020.
00:30:47.120 There was hundreds of thousands of people.
00:30:50.420 There were six, count them, six guards in front of the Supreme Court, spread out about 40 yards apiece.
00:30:57.240 That was it for security.
00:30:58.800 There wasn't even an argument there.
00:31:01.440 It was a, you know what I mean?
00:31:02.540 And that's, and so they, so yeah, across the board.
00:31:07.020 Yeah, I agree with you.
00:31:08.060 I can deal with a few people doing the crime and paying the price.
00:31:12.480 I mean, like you said, some of them sat in jail for two, three years.
00:31:15.360 What's the price of breaking a window, Mike?
00:31:16.980 It's not four years in jail.
00:31:18.220 It's whatever it is, a misdemeanor.
00:31:20.100 There was no, they didn't burn down the Capitol, Mike.
00:31:22.560 They didn't set the chambers on fire.
00:31:24.060 In fact, no, they did not.
00:31:25.520 We saw, Mike, the folks in there were telling everybody, do not damage this place.
00:31:30.860 Do not do any destruction.
00:31:32.240 This is a sacred place.
00:31:33.720 You're in here to walk around.
00:31:35.160 Do not do any damage.
00:31:36.180 Okay, maybe there were some people who broke windows.
00:31:39.240 What's the crime for breaking a window, Mike?
00:31:40.760 Is it four years in jail?
00:31:41.880 Is it, is it solitary confinement?
00:31:44.120 Is it torturing you and ruining your life?
00:31:46.580 Is that what the crime is?
00:31:47.740 Because if that's the crime that I want to go back and next segment, we're going to talk
00:31:51.420 about relitigating the 2020 election.
00:31:53.060 Because I know it's something you and I believed in.
00:31:56.200 But if that's fine, if you want, if that's the crime, four years in jail for breaking a window,
00:32:01.320 let's go back and relitigate what happened in Minnesota.
00:32:04.380 Why don't we go back and relitigate in 2020 when they burned down police stations, when they
00:32:09.540 burned down car, car lots, when they tried to ruin Kyle Rittenhouse's life.
00:32:14.480 Let's go back and relitigate that if you want to do that.
00:32:18.400 How about the other criminal acts that the Biden administration has allowed to happen?
00:32:23.980 How about the border invasion that they've allowed to happen?
00:32:27.740 The millions and millions and millions of people that they've allowed to flow into this
00:32:31.740 country as freely as they wanted.
00:32:33.640 I've got some good numbers for you.
00:32:35.700 This is from Fox News.
00:32:37.060 They used a Sunday as a number, as a study number, less than 600 people illegally crossed
00:32:43.180 into the U.S. or Mexico on Sunday night, a stunningly low number since Donald Trump took
00:32:47.540 office.
00:32:48.440 Sources tell Fox News that not a single one of the nine sectors, border sectors, received
00:32:53.040 more than 200 crossings on January 26th.
00:32:56.160 And that number for daily encounters only reached 582 in total.
00:33:00.200 The Del Rio sector, which is the same sector that was the same, 4,000 crossings per day, Mike,
00:33:05.560 4,000 a day in the height of the border crisis in 2023, only received, you ready for this,
00:33:10.460 60 crossings.
00:33:13.080 Now, Donald Trump doesn't have any special new tools.
00:33:16.620 He doesn't have anything that Joe Biden didn't have.
00:33:19.680 He's got that same wall that's there.
00:33:22.040 He's at the same National Guard.
00:33:23.420 He's got the same military.
00:33:24.620 And you know what, Mike?
00:33:25.440 He has the same help that Greg Abbott afforded Joe Biden.
00:33:29.260 So why is there border crossings that are down hundreds of percent with the same tools
00:33:35.840 that Joe Biden had?
00:33:37.420 Well, I think, you know, I think a lot of it, you know, you mentioned the governor, Greg
00:33:41.520 Abbott, and he's a friend of mine.
00:33:43.220 And, you know, as you know, there was a time where they, you know, in Texas, everybody's
00:33:48.300 on him, do more, do more, do more.
00:33:51.080 And there's other politicians, too, all across our country, anyone that was a border state,
00:33:56.220 why didn't they do everything they could have done or at least pushed it in the media as
00:34:00.940 far as they could?
00:34:02.020 Well, the media would cover that part out, number one.
00:34:04.320 And I believe that they're politicians.
00:34:08.360 So they're looking at, you know, I've got to get, you know, elected.
00:34:11.280 I got to stay in this space here instead of going over here and doing what's 100% common
00:34:16.980 sense.
00:34:17.920 So these, one of the things, the phenomenon of our great president, Donald Trump, is people
00:34:23.960 now are pouring into this common sense bucket.
00:34:27.700 It's him alone going, hey, this is common sense.
00:34:31.100 You just do it.
00:34:32.080 You don't say, just like our great vice president said, I don't care, Margaret.
00:34:37.660 This is Donald Trump, but I don't care.
00:34:39.540 This is the right thing to do.
00:34:40.700 We don't have time to talk about it.
00:34:42.980 We're going to lose our country.
00:34:44.720 We're going to lose everything.
00:34:45.840 And these, you know, these governors and these, these politicians, I think now that
00:34:54.440 they're all, you know, they're going forward with no fear now and jumping on and helping
00:34:59.400 Donald Trump where he didn't get the help in his first term.
00:35:02.780 And he certainly was ignored the last four years.
00:35:06.440 He had to fight for every inch.
00:35:08.440 As we can say, the election was told, the election was told.
00:35:12.020 You know how many times he was told by people, just give up on that.
00:35:15.600 Let's just move forward.
00:35:16.660 Put that behind you.
00:35:17.560 Don't talk about it.
00:35:18.660 You think he let's it?
00:35:19.620 No.
00:35:20.080 He said, no, I'm never letting up on that.
00:35:22.620 You know?
00:35:23.240 And, and so I really believe it's just like now judges are going to get, who wants to
00:35:28.360 be the first judge ever to say, I'll get it through another thing in there.
00:35:31.380 They say, Hey, let's get rid of the electronic voting.
00:35:33.460 Let's hold up.
00:35:34.200 Let's take a quick break.
00:35:34.880 Cause I want to, I want to take a segment on that to talk about that.
00:35:37.680 We'll come right back with the great Mike Lindell.
00:35:39.560 Stay with us.
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00:36:44.540 Folks, we're back with the great Mike Lindell.
00:36:46.600 Mike, real quick before we turn to election integrity, it's something that's stuck in my
00:36:51.260 head since this last segment about Keith Ellison going after the Lindell Recovery Network,
00:36:55.900 your network, your profit, your charity that you've started for addicts, recovering addicts.
00:37:04.160 It's totally disgusting.
00:37:06.240 People don't realize you donate a vast amount of the money that you make each and every year.
00:37:11.160 I watched you on, I don't remember what it was.
00:37:12.960 It was Jimmy Kimmel or something where he said, Mike, you make hundreds of millions of dollars
00:37:16.960 and this, and you looked at him simply and you said, I donate it all.
00:37:20.760 And so the people who don't know you, you know, you're a pretty regular guy.
00:37:24.260 You're not walking around wearing Gucci shoes and, you know, Gucci hats and stuff like that.
00:37:29.460 And it's truly sad to see that these people are just such scum.
00:37:33.060 That they'd go after something that in the times in America, especially the recovery network
00:37:39.520 you have with the drug problem we have in this country right now as a former addict yourself,
00:37:43.900 that they would go this low.
00:37:46.320 These are the same people, Mike, who allow fentanyl to roam their streets and all types of drugs
00:37:52.480 and heroin to roam their streets.
00:37:54.360 Yet they come after you for sitting on the outside, donating your own money, your own time
00:38:00.360 to try to help these people because you know what it was like to live that life.
00:38:04.780 So I just had to get that off my chest because it's truly disgusting.
00:38:08.300 It's very sad.
00:38:09.680 I have the list, the LindellRecoveryNetwork.org, everybody.
00:38:13.040 It's free for any addict to go there.
00:38:15.580 If you guys want it, if anybody wants to donate, you can donate.
00:38:18.400 I did it all myself before, right now, before it was, I put it all and I built the site.
00:38:24.320 We put millions into it over the last, I think it's been up for seven, eight years now,
00:38:29.300 six, seven, eight years.
00:38:30.920 Millions have been saved by it and helped and it's free.
00:38:35.100 And for Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota to come and attack,
00:38:39.480 this just happened this week again, where he piled on.
00:38:44.560 First, he went after the year 2020 and 2021, and then now he's piled it on.
00:38:50.320 We have to go all the way back.
00:38:52.560 You know, I basically have told me, you know, you're out of your mind.
00:38:55.080 How can you do anything wrong, John, when all the money came from me, right?
00:38:59.640 All the money came from me.
00:39:01.160 What are you looking at this C3 for to say, what?
00:39:05.800 Did Mike Lindell take some money and use it for his own purposes?
00:39:09.440 I put in all the money.
00:39:11.520 You know, give me a break here.
00:39:13.400 You know, it's disgusting.
00:39:15.380 And you know, you're entitled to.
00:39:16.900 As a founder and the CEO of a 501c3, you're entitled to use expense accounts,
00:39:22.800 to use travel or whatever.
00:39:24.820 You're entitled to it.
00:39:25.480 I never did anything.
00:39:26.220 I understand.
00:39:26.860 I'm just saying the legality of it all, Mike.
00:39:29.840 And it's not like you're running some sort of crazy business.
00:39:33.220 You run MyPillow.
00:39:35.080 It's one single company.
00:39:37.400 You get money that comes in.
00:39:39.040 You get money that goes out.
00:39:40.260 Your tax returns are probably more sophisticated than mine, but far less sophisticated than the tax returns of J.P. Morgan or Bank of America.
00:39:48.900 So, you know, if there's any wrongdoing there, it's probably very easy to catch.
00:39:53.740 It's such a total joke.
00:39:54.940 There's far too many bad actors out there who are actually cheating our tax systems that they should worry about rather than going after you.
00:40:01.720 But hopefully with Donald Trump in town, these attacks will stop because it's all politically motivated.
00:40:07.300 There's nothing there.
00:40:08.120 As far as I'm concerned, the way I know you.
00:40:11.240 I'm just telling you, the reason everyone asks yourself, why aren't they stopping with Mike Lindell or MyPillow?
00:40:17.280 They're not stopping because why?
00:40:19.740 What do I stand for?
00:40:21.180 Paper ballots.
00:40:22.020 Get out of the voting machines and go to paper ballots in our country like 132 other countries have done around the world.
00:40:28.580 That's what the real motive is here.
00:40:30.920 Yeah.
00:40:31.060 So let's talk about that.
00:40:32.840 Let's turn to first the way forward, and then I want to go backwards and talk about 2020 and the re-litigation of that.
00:40:41.140 So what is the way forward, Mike?
00:40:42.880 You had mentioned earlier in the show that there were races that were probably stolen, and I would agree with you on that.
00:40:48.640 You look at the races out in California, and these people just relented, a lot of them rhinos.
00:40:54.520 They said, all right, we can see.
00:40:55.860 You stole it from us.
00:40:56.860 You had that.
00:40:57.340 I think it was Michelle Steele or Valido in California.
00:41:00.840 Mike, they were up by like the Republicans are up by like 1,500 votes.
00:41:04.860 Two weeks trickled down, trickled down.
00:41:07.840 Right.
00:41:07.920 10 votes one day, 20 votes one day, 60 votes one day.
00:41:10.540 And, Mike, it got down to like a margin of a half percent, a quarter of a percent.
00:41:15.780 And they said, okay, election's over.
00:41:17.640 The Democrat won.
00:41:18.700 And the Republicans sat there, and they said, okay, that's fine.
00:41:21.620 We'll roll over on our back.
00:41:23.180 Yeah.
00:41:23.360 Lost this election.
00:41:24.840 First of all, that's fine with me.
00:41:26.480 I don't care if they lost that election, if the election was stolen from them.
00:41:29.240 You know why?
00:41:29.860 Because if they didn't have the guts to fight for it, they shouldn't have been there in the first place.
00:41:33.120 That's the way I look at it, right?
00:41:34.260 But it shouldn't happen to people because there are going to be people who are going to fight back.
00:41:39.200 And we know what happens to the people who fight back against stolen elections in this country, don't we, Mike?
00:41:43.960 Yeah, absolutely.
00:41:44.900 And here's the way forward.
00:41:46.480 I have over 300,000 people on the ground with the cause of America.
00:41:50.540 We have the Election Bureau, the new app, VocalSocial, VOCL.com, everybody.
00:41:57.980 Get on it.
00:41:59.100 Okay.
00:42:00.360 Everything we've done for four years,
00:42:02.600 now we have other tools to combine with that.
00:42:05.840 I have a good friend of mine that's pretty high up, so we're coming from the top down.
00:42:10.480 But also, we still have things going on from the bottom up in every single state.
00:42:16.320 And we will not stop because, you know what?
00:42:19.240 This can't be a Band-Aid.
00:42:20.960 Everyone's going, Donald Trump's in.
00:42:22.580 It's all going to be fixed.
00:42:23.740 No.
00:42:24.640 It will be a Band-Aid if we don't secure our elections.
00:42:28.680 If you can plug into a computer, you know, right now we should have an overwhelming advantage in the Senate and the House.
00:42:38.300 But when they planned this, I knew that Donald Trump was going to win.
00:42:42.340 They're going, okay, you know, it's going to be too obvious.
00:42:45.200 I'm going to bring it back a little bit.
00:42:47.140 If I would have told you, John, this summer and said, hey, you know what?
00:42:51.120 I'm going to give you China virus 2.0, nobody would have done the same things we did and fell for that garbage again.
00:42:58.920 Over the last four years, we've had loud mouths out there putting, hey, we've got to get rid of the machines.
00:43:04.640 Got to get rid of the machines.
00:43:05.380 Elon Musk got on board this summer with all the data and stuff we had.
00:43:08.700 We've got to get rid of the machines back in June.
00:43:11.180 That was Lew's biggest rallying cry before he passed.
00:43:15.020 You know, we've had to get this.
00:43:16.260 He goes all the way back to 2004 and 5 when he said we've got to get rid of them.
00:43:20.480 The Democrats all wanted him gone, okay?
00:43:23.120 So if I would have said to the public, or if I was evil, I'll call it evil, the unit party, the deep state globalists, said, hey, let's give them, let's steal the election again from Donald Trump, okay?
00:43:33.440 If they would have done that, I'll tell you what would have happened.
00:43:36.760 Nobody would have fell for it.
00:43:38.160 It would have been probably a faster route to get rid of the machines because everybody would demand it.
00:43:45.160 No, no, no, no.
00:43:46.360 Open them up right now.
00:43:48.120 We're going to finally see what you're hiding.
00:43:50.980 Open them up, every one of them.
00:43:53.440 Crack them up like coconuts and pan openers, and let's see what's in there.
00:43:56.980 And if they would have done that, there are two things that would have happened.
00:44:00.780 One is it would have been gone, but it would have been the biggest, I'd say, disaster.
00:44:07.940 I wouldn't say it wouldn't have been civil war.
00:44:09.640 It would have been disaster.
00:44:10.740 You would have had evil and good fighting at a level you've never seen, clashing.
00:44:14.960 So if I was their market, I'll say, you know what?
00:44:17.220 We can't go that route.
00:44:18.460 We're going to elect Donald Trump.
00:44:20.280 We're not going to.
00:44:21.680 We'll steal some from him to make it look good for the next election, which they did, everybody.
00:44:25.820 They stole a lot from Donald Trump.
00:44:27.500 It doesn't matter what you say.
00:44:29.260 And then we're going to take enough of the senators, enough of the House, so that we can
00:44:33.600 win it back in 2020 or 2026, steal it back, okay?
00:44:37.940 And then we'll try and attack all the people that are working on to get rid of the machines.
00:44:43.780 That's why they're still attacking me and many others.
00:44:46.360 And that's their plan.
00:44:48.280 And now I'm telling you, we know if you have, I don't have time to explain on your show.
00:44:54.220 We know if you take the computers out of our elections, like 132 countries that abandon,
00:45:00.700 and you do paper ballots, hand counted, like all these other countries, this country is
00:45:06.280 upwards of 70% red, everybody.
00:45:09.260 The new red, the common sense red, okay?
00:45:13.340 So when you skim a casino, I've said it before, you skim everywhere.
00:45:16.580 Now, you had standouts because those ones you mentioned in California and these other four
00:45:22.200 senators, you know, well, why did it take longer to count their races?
00:45:25.620 Because they had to make adjustments.
00:45:28.660 They had to.
00:45:29.880 It was the one thing that worked this time was when you said too big to rig, and everybody
00:45:34.740 promoted that early voting.
00:45:36.220 I did.
00:45:36.780 It's horrible, right?
00:45:37.720 But the left or the unit party did not count on that.
00:45:42.560 So when you had these polls starting coming out, like in North Carolina, all these polls,
00:45:46.540 that the Republicans were voting, outvoting the Democrats in the early voting, now all
00:45:52.500 of a sudden on game day, you're going to say, oh, boy, the Democrats all voted and they
00:45:57.700 all voted the Republicans.
00:45:59.000 You're only going to get away with that once, though, that early voting thing, because they're
00:46:02.660 not going to let that happen again, because now they're going to be, evil's going to be
00:46:05.840 prepared.
00:46:06.280 So I say, you know, we are not going to stop my teams.
00:46:11.740 We have litigation going on everywhere.
00:46:13.960 You go back to, I'll just give everyone one example.
00:46:16.600 If everyone remembers in Georgia, there's a case that's been going on for years, for years,
00:46:23.000 the curling case against a crooked Brad Rassenberger, where a guy, Alex Haldeman, a year ago, January,
00:46:31.060 hacked him with a ballpoint pen and switched the whole election in front of the judge.
00:46:34.720 The judge hasn't ruled on it yet.
00:46:36.720 Yeah.
00:46:37.080 Why?
00:46:37.460 So great things going on.
00:46:39.560 Yeah.
00:46:39.780 You know, all you have to do is go back and look.
00:46:42.560 Why are they so against it?
00:46:44.020 It's such a simple concept, Mike.
00:46:45.760 You put a vote.
00:46:46.820 I mean, this was like the most simple form of balloting.
00:46:50.020 It's still used in like class elections and stuff like that.
00:46:52.540 It's still used in some countries.
00:46:54.260 You put a piece of paper in, Mike.
00:46:56.620 It's one vote, one person.
00:46:58.380 I'll never forget.
00:46:59.200 I was with you and Lou in Missouri about a year and a half ago for your election summit,
00:47:03.800 and you had unrolled out this new device where you were able to tell what devices were online.
00:47:08.960 That's right.
00:47:09.600 Excellent.
00:47:10.160 Cool concept, right?
00:47:11.320 If the election machines are not online, then you should have no problem with someone walking into this.
00:47:16.760 Lo and behold, within a day or within a week, Mike, I think it was Kentucky,
00:47:20.440 first wants to come out and ban this thing.
00:47:22.040 Why are you so nervous about us knowing if your election systems are online?
00:47:26.220 Why are they online in the first place?
00:47:28.060 It makes you wonder.
00:47:29.260 It makes you think, well, what are these people hiding?
00:47:31.800 What are they so nervous about?
00:47:33.900 You had mentioned Georgia.
00:47:35.600 Your good friend, Kemp, I think is running for the Senate.
00:47:39.500 So I guess it may be a blessing in disguise, Mike, if you put him in a group of 100 people.
00:47:45.300 He can't really do anything that stupid.
00:47:47.340 And we get someone in Georgia who's like an America first person.
00:47:50.440 I look at it as a blessing in disguise.
00:47:52.840 Get rid of this guy.
00:47:53.760 I know he's terminated out.
00:47:54.720 But, you know, don't let him put one of his people in.
00:47:57.580 You know, it's a deal Donald Trump's got to make.
00:47:59.600 That's fine.
00:48:00.180 You want to run for the Senate, I'll endorse you.
00:48:01.580 But we're putting in America first governor because the job of governor is far superior,
00:48:06.540 Mike, as you well know, to a congressman of 435 or a senator of 100.
00:48:12.400 So speaking on that front, those 100 and those 435 have a very important role over these next four years,
00:48:21.060 over these next two years.
00:48:22.140 And that's where we're going to turn to.
00:48:24.220 And that's relitigating the 2020 election.
00:48:26.800 And one of President Trump's first executive orders, President Trump said it directed his attorney general.
00:48:33.100 Now, Pam Bondi's not in yet, but we expect she will be very shortly.
00:48:37.280 He directed his attorney general to look into everything.
00:48:41.600 Now, do we have confidence in Pam Bondi that she's going to go ahead and look into what needs to be looked at?
00:48:47.740 Yeah, absolutely.
00:48:49.600 I've been telling my teams, everyone he's put in, they're on my phone.
00:48:53.840 I became friends with many of them, including Pam Bondi.
00:48:56.880 Just say you've got Governor Kristi Noem overlooking underneath.
00:49:02.720 Way underneath is CISA, the corrupt CISA.
00:49:04.780 I mean, all these things that are in place, like I say, all of tools we didn't have before to be able to get to the finish line.
00:49:12.660 It's not just the 2020 election is a perfect example because the deviations stand out so far.
00:49:19.640 You have more votes than voters in Pennsylvania.
00:49:22.540 Somebody explain that.
00:49:23.840 You know, it's impossible.
00:49:25.820 OK, and we've all seen the chart, John, where it says, you know, for Biden, 60 some million Democrats voted for Biden in the first election.
00:49:35.000 64, 65 million for Biden in the second.
00:49:37.840 Same with Hillary, 64, 65.
00:49:40.040 All of a sudden, Biden, 83 million or 81 million.
00:49:42.540 And then back to Harris, 63 million.
00:49:45.080 You guys, 15 million people.
00:49:48.040 You can't even steal an election with that many, with 50 million without the use of a computer.
00:49:54.380 It's mathematically impossible.
00:49:56.280 You can't create that many fake ballots and people to, hey, let's go vote for Biden and to cheat.
00:50:03.600 It's impossible.
00:50:05.000 And all these people he's put in, including Pam Bondi, that's going to be a high concern, a high priority to secure our elections.
00:50:16.060 Now, people go, well, you got to go back and fight and prosecute those that did it.
00:50:20.100 I've been saying for years, let's melt down the machines and turn them into prison bars.
00:50:24.140 That's the end goal.
00:50:25.080 But you guys, I want to say the biggest win we have in my realm here is we broke through the biggest cover up of the biggest crime in history.
00:50:35.780 And it's because of our voice getting so big, including your great show here, John, that you've carried on with the great Lou Dobbs, the great America show.
00:50:46.660 These by our voice never giving up and saying, hey, there's a problem.
00:50:50.120 There's a problem.
00:50:50.680 There's a problem.
00:50:52.000 And and to have that example of the 2020 election, it happens all over the place.
00:50:59.660 But we are able to now have these tools we didn't have before to get to what there's a reason 132 countries have banned electronic voting.
00:51:08.300 There's also over 100 countries that ban early ban early voting and mail-in voting.
00:51:14.100 Everybody just watched Taiwan.
00:51:15.640 That's way too slow of a system.
00:51:17.680 But we watched it on TV.
00:51:19.300 Everybody see the ballot.
00:51:20.880 Check, check, because it meant that they lose their country or don't lose their country.
00:51:26.220 This is where we're at, everybody.
00:51:27.960 But we're in a great place with all the tools that are in place.
00:51:31.420 And we've got I look at like we got 18 months to get to get rid of everything and get to the most secure elections in history.
00:51:40.340 We need to be the gold standard, not the worst in the world.
00:51:44.400 And we will be.
00:51:45.840 Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:51:46.900 And the price we pay, Mike, is hopefully it's far surpasses, you know, everything else at any given moment.
00:51:55.360 And you've already gone through it.
00:51:56.800 But any given moment, they can de-platform us.
00:51:58.900 They can de-platform me.
00:52:00.220 Chase Bank, American Express.
00:52:02.420 They've already done it to you.
00:52:03.360 They could do it to everybody.
00:52:04.600 But I think the tides have turned.
00:52:05.820 These people all are now on their knees begging for forgiveness.
00:52:09.100 You look at Mark Zuckerberg.
00:52:10.360 You look at Jeff Bezos.
00:52:11.860 And, you know, some people were mad that Trump invited them.
00:52:14.420 I was happy because they all look like such fools.
00:52:17.380 They all look like such kiss asses.
00:52:19.180 And they're such total fools.
00:52:20.820 This is a man they were calling Hitler just months ago, Mike.
00:52:24.100 This is a man they were calling a narcissist, a sociopath, a racist, a xenophobe, a misogynist.
00:52:30.080 These are all the same people doing that.
00:52:31.920 And they're in his house now.
00:52:34.060 So you look like the total fool, not Donald Trump.
00:52:36.920 You want to come there and kiss the ring?
00:52:38.140 That's fine.
00:52:38.580 It's all documented.
00:52:39.760 We have it all on camera.
00:52:40.780 We have it all on video.
00:52:41.460 That's right.
00:52:41.820 As you like to say.
00:52:43.520 Mike, I know you're short on time.
00:52:44.920 I appreciate you joining us today.
00:52:46.580 You get the last word here.
00:52:47.580 Yeah, I just, like I've said, everybody, we're in times of miracles right now.
00:52:54.680 I mean, these are miracles happening.
00:52:56.220 And all the bad things we went through, there's still going to be bad things.
00:53:01.200 Evil is not going to surrender everybody.
00:53:03.580 They're sitting back with a new plan, reorganizing.
00:53:06.280 And I'm not talking the Democrat Party, everybody.
00:53:08.940 I'm talking the Uniparty deep state globalists.
00:53:12.180 They're backing off going, now, how do we, what can we do?
00:53:15.640 They absolutely need the tool to steal elections in order to even have a chance anymore.
00:53:22.220 We take away that from them, and we free the world.
00:53:25.760 I mean, it's going to be amazing.
00:53:28.180 We can't let this be a band-aid with our great real president.
00:53:31.560 I want everybody, if you can get involved, go to LindellPlan.com.
00:53:35.940 It's all laid out there, and the election bureau, everything, all the stuff we're going to be doing now as we move forward.
00:53:42.560 You know, I'm kind of at the tip of the spear on that, and I have been, and I'm not stopping.
00:53:46.720 We're going through.
00:53:48.160 And so, I mean, it's a great time in history, everybody.
00:53:53.800 But everybody's got to still do their part.
00:53:56.400 You know, spread the word.
00:53:57.900 Go get on every social media platform and spread the word.
00:54:01.520 Spread this podcast.
00:54:03.560 Share it, share it, share it, share it.
00:54:05.620 We've got it.
00:54:06.160 One thing we have now that we didn't have then is they're not suppressing us.
00:54:09.800 We all have voices, now let's use them.
00:54:12.100 Let's use them, everybody.
00:54:13.980 So, God bless you, John, and keep going.
00:54:16.460 And I encourage everybody to just, you know, sound the alarms and sound the truth and sound the great things going on,
00:54:27.560 because you've got people over here that still need to be brought into the bucket.
00:54:31.100 Yeah, God bless you, too, Mike, and all the work you do.
00:54:33.680 I know Lou's down and Evan's smiling down.
00:54:36.080 He loved and adored you and all the work that you did and sacrifices.
00:54:39.900 And we encourage everyone to head over to MyPillow.com slash John and buy all your MyPillow products, sheets, pillows, slippers, all that good stuff.
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00:55:36.320 Mike, we'll talk to you soon.
00:55:37.220 You're a great American.
00:55:37.880 Thanks so much.
00:55:38.580 Thanks, John.
00:55:39.120 God bless.
00:55:39.860 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.
00:55:41.500 Be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show,
00:55:43.860 where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.
00:55:47.680 We'll see you back here tomorrow.
00:55:48.700 Same time, same place.
00:55:49.940 Until then, may God bless you.
00:55:51.780 God bless America.
00:55:52.680 And may God bless the great Blue Dobs.
00:55:54.120 We'll see you next time.