REP. PERRY SAYS CONGRESS DOES GREAT THINGS FOR WASHINGTON, D.C. BUT NOT FOR AMERICANS…GOP PLANS TO CHANGE THAT
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Biden documents found in his garage? What's the big deal? Was it stolen by the Deep State? Or did it come from a Chinese think tank funded by the Marxist deep state? And is there more to it than that?
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show, and great to have you with us.
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Today, we're talking about historic reforms in the House of Representatives,
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a national corporate media that resists any calls for reform, even that of their owners,
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apparently. There may be more Republican reform ahead. There's suddenly a fight for the
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chairmanship of the Republican National Committee. Ronna McDaniel has chaired the RNC for two midterms
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in a presidential election and lost out. Running against her, California committee woman Harmeet
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Dillon, attorney and activist, and Mike Lindell of MyPillow fame. The Republican establishment
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likes McDaniel, of course, despite her losses. Rank and file aiming for a change in leadership.
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The RNC votes on the 27th at their annual to-do. And how about the hysterical reaction of the elite
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corporate globalists to the Biden document theft and possession of classified documents?
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As they say in the news trade, we'll examine that in the coming minutes. But no, we're not in the
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news trade, so we'll examine it right now. And we have a highbrow reason for our impulsiveness,
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because it's fun. Let's start with the MSNBC reflex, which is basically this. They adore the
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impaired puppet President Biden, so there's no need for an FBI convoy rolling into Biden's residence
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and putting chalk lines around where the documents were found, or spreading them out on the rug and
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taking pictures to slip to the Marxist left media. And they say, what's the big deal about finding
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highest classified secret documents in Biden's garage, his library, some say somewhere outside the
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garage? And it is think tank, of course, a think tank that's paid for by the communist Chinese,
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who, frankly, I think they have a pretty good claim that they own the entire Biden family enterprise.
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Oh, yes. And Hunter Biden, in case you were wondering, did have access to that garage and
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apparently paid his father $50,000 a month for the privilege, plus a place to sleep, or at least so
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were told at this point. So no problem there at all, so claims the corporate globalist media as
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they try to rationalize Biden's document scandal, claiming without evidence that it was all
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inadvertent mishandling. There's no harm been done, was there? And the garage was locked after all,
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and it must have been secure or old Joe wouldn't have been parking his Corvette there. Maybe the
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Republicans planted the documents on poor old Joe. And besides, the intel agencies tend to overclassify
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all those doggone documents. So these compartmentalized sensitive information documents,
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the highest level of classification, so no big deal. They're basically saying these Biden documents
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really just fall somewhere between a page out of Reader's Digest and Good Housekeeping,
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which obviously this wasn't. Just as obviously, the deep state allied with the Marxist Dems in most
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circumstances would assure President Biden of a free pass, no matter the severity of his
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transgressions. But there are also signs that more is afoot in this Biden document scandal. The Marxist Dem
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rhetoric is suspiciously strong. Lying lefty Adam Schiff worries aloud that Biden may have put our
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national security at risk. Lefty squad member Ilhan Omar says she's glad Biden is under investigation.
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She's glad. And where is all that Marxist Dem support that would nearly always be expected
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to rise to a deafening chorus of support for Biden? But not this time, not even a whisper. So maybe,
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just maybe, the Marxist Dem Politburo has decided that not only they don't want Biden running for a second term,
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they may want him out of office now. Whoa. We'll see. And probably soon.
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Marxist Dem corruption throughout our government is, of course, breathtaking and awesome in its almost complete power,
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widespread and entrenched. And for the first half of Biden's presidency, there was absolutely nothing.
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Republicans could do about it. But now, with a House controlled by the GOP, investigations into the
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Biden family corruption, the weaponization of the Department of Justice and FBI are underway.
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And we're told there's much more to follow and quickly. The 118th Congress is off to an unprecedented
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start. In part, that's because the Republicans had a fight for the speakership and they fought it out
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on C-SPAN and Republican voters loved it. And the bargaining took place in full view of the people.
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Well, most of the bargaining. 20 Republican reformers banded together to reform the rules in the House
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and gain more representation on committees for conservatives. Bargaining for transparency,
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representation and accountability. Historic changes. Our guest today,
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one of the 20 reformers who stood up. He's Congressman Scott Perry, representing Pennsylvania's 10th
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district, serving on the foreign affairs and transportation committees. And he chairs the
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Freedom Caucus. Retired Army general, almost 40 years of service. Congressman, great to have you here
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again. And congratulations to you and the 20 who accomplished unprecedented reforms for the 118th
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Congress. You all made history. Well, I got to tell you, Lou, we didn't set out to make history,
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but we did set out to change the course of how Congress, you know, relates to the American people
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and actually does business for the American people. And my observation has been that over my time here,
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Congress does great things for Washington, D.C. Doesn't do a lot of great things for people out in
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America that get up in the morning, pack a lunchbox and head off to work, pay their bills and play by the
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rules. And we were just committed to making making a difference and changing it so that Congress
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actually works for the American people. It's been 100 years, Lou, since anything like this has
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happened. And maybe it takes that long. I don't know for people to wake up and say, I've had enough,
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but I have had enough. And I said to myself, I'm not going to look back on my time in Congress and
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know that I didn't do everything I can to save the Republic. So while it might have been uncomfortable
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and a little messy looking, better to get this out of the way now so that we can proceed and,
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you know, and start opposing the crazy left that's dismantling everything we hold dear.
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Well, Congressman, those are wonderful words for all of us who care about this Republic. And what
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you all did was really terrific. And I want to applaud you. Free spirited debate, honesty out in
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front of the American people. What could be better than that? I would love to see you all on the floor
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every day, every single day, debating issues and playing your part as congressman.
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Well, look, maybe that was so shocking that the American people hadn't really seen
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a full-throated debate with all members on the floor, listening, weighing in, participating.
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Maybe that was the most shocking thing. But let's face it, every now and then we need to reset. And
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that's how it's supposed to be. We're supposed to be debating issues. Lou, we haven't had an amendment
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on the floor in six years. You know, we keep on hearing about these bills. Oh, it's the gang of
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eight, the gang of seven, the gang of six. What the heck's going on here? There's 435 members of
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Congress and 100 members of the Senate. That means all the rest of them were out of it. You know,
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you didn't, you didn't hire people or elect people to come here. You know, and I've told,
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I told the former speaker this, I didn't come here to take orders from you. My orders come from my
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district and the good Lord above and this constitution that I've taken an oath to defend.
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Not you and not you people. So that might be the most shocking thing. And you're right,
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Lou. Look, we knew what was coming at us. We knew it since we, since the inception of this plan and
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this effort. We knew that all the inside game, the members of Congress, our colleagues were all
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going to be against us. And we knew the outside game was going to be against us. Like you said,
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the corporate media, and we even knew some of our so-called allies would be against us. But we were
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committed. We were committed to make a difference. We didn't make it personal. It wasn't about a
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person. It was about this institution, this culture, and trying to do something for the little guy and
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the little gal that's out there just trying to make their way and thinks that Washington doesn't
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hear their voice. That's what this was all about at the end of the day. I have to believe the cable
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news networks are going to be just shaking with anxiety and fear when I say this. But you all
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should do your business in the House with C-SPAN cameras rolling all of the time. You all control
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the medium. It's your media. And I can't imagine you giving it up to Nancy Pelosi or Jeffries or
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whomever, because it is really a great advantage for you Republicans. Well, I'm glad you mentioned
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that and you noticed it, Lou. As the process was going on, we would oftentimes get together and say,
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let's keep doing the speeches. We're winning every single one of them. It's an opportunity to contrast
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what the difference is. And we were happy to do it and happy to have the opportunity
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to show those bold colors. And that's what it's really about. Let's face it, Lou. We were supposed
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to have a red wave this last election. But you know and I know that the leaders in the Senate and the
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leaders in the House didn't inspire anybody. The gains that we won in what was the most favorable
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political climate and Republican in my lifetime as a Republican was squandered because we didn't
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inspire anybody to vote to vote for us. They voted for us in the sense that they were actually voting
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against the left and that we were their only choice. Well, that's not a really positive affirmation.
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And I think you have to be willing to acknowledge that. And if you are willing to acknowledge that,
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Yes, I think that is the test here. And you achieved so much in standing up and reforming
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Congress. No one can argue that. And everyone should be able to applaud that. It's a powerful
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moment when we look back to that week. I just hope that we will see more of you and your colleagues on
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the floor to see what else you can do. Well, one of the things we asked for, Lou, and kind of,
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you know, we requested was a more broadly based approach to the members on committees that reflect
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the American people, not just the power brokers in Washington, D.C. So as you can imagine,
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the very important committees were all populated by people unlike me and unlike those 20. And we said
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that is not acceptable. Not only are we not going to accept retribution and reprisal for standing firm
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on our commitments and our beliefs, but we want to be represented in the important committees so that
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those voices, the voices of the American people across the spectrum are heard, not just the left
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side of our party, but the right side of our party, too, that often feels like they do all the hard
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work, they make all the sacrifices to get us here. And then once we're here, they're abandoned,
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their viewpoints are abandoned. So I think you are going to see many more voices that you haven't seen
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in the past. Look, like I said, we put in place the tools. We have the tools now to really get our
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message out and do things differently. We still have to have the courage to use them. You take for
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the first time in history, there is a single subject rule in the House of Representatives. And
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if you think about how the Senate always sent these Christmas trees over with all these ornaments
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hung on them, 7,200 ornaments in earmarks the last time, what, two weeks ago and right before
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Christmas. That can't happen anymore as long as the House enforces its rule. They say, look,
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you can send that, but it's dead on arrival over here. We have rules now that you have to abide by,
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not just the Senate rules that the poor House has to grovel on the floor like Oliver Twist asking for
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more gruel. We're not going to do that anymore. Now you're going to abide by our rules and we're not
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putting up with that anymore, but we have to enforce it. Well, I noticed you didn't put up much with
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George Stephanopoulos. He obviously wanted you to recuse yourself from investigating those same
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Marxist Dems who've been attacking our system of government, the representatives of the American
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people and including you. And it was good to watch you just not put up with his nonsense.
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Well, that's exactly what they do, Lou. And we should be ready for that. We should be prepared for
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that. We should expect that. What they often do is when they can't win on the, in the arena of
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ideas, when they can't win on the battlefield, they take the players that are being effective
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off the battlefield. We've seen them do that over and over again. Of course, issuing subpoenas on
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Andy Biggs and Jim Jordan and what they've done to Matt Gaetz. They take the most effective players
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off the battlefield. And that's what that was, an attempt. I have not, according to the Department
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of Justice, I'm not a target of the investigation. So I absolutely should serve on every committee.
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As a matter of fact, I'm one of the people that should serve on one of these committees because
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I'm being unduly persecuted, like many Americans are, under this weaponization of the government
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by the Democrats and the left. And that's exactly the kind of people we need on those committees
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The China committee that you've created and created in a bipartisan fashion, I think is going
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to be tremendous. People are recognizing who the enemy really is. They're no longer calling
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China adversaries or competitors. They're outright an enemy. They're stealing almost a trillion dollars
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a year from this country. And it's good to see this committee established and to see Congress
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in a bipartisan fashion doing something about it.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. Finally, finally, someone's acknowledging what you have talked long
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about, Lou. I've also acknowledged it. But finally, it's being acknowledged officially by the creation
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of this committee. And look, they are calling them adversaries or strategic competitors or whatever
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all that garbage is. Chinese Communist Party calls the United States of America its enemy. And we better
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take heed to that and get to it. And with all due respect, if there is any warranted, the Democrats have
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talked big but done absolutely nothing. And now it's time for them to put up. And the Republican Party
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needs to get in a fight here, too, and really start getting tough. None of this just, you know,
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tepid conversations and we ought to call them out. No, we ought to do something and hold them account.
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You know what we ought to do? I've got a bill to label the Communist Party of China, the Communist Party
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of China, a transnational criminal organization. And the intellectual property theft of America that
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they engage in every single year is certainly just a minimum standard. And that would allow Merrick
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Garland to quit prosecuting Americans for a parking ticket and start going after the Communist Chinese
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Party that's trying to destroy America. That's where he needs to focus his attention and leave
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good, God-fearing, hardworking, law-abiding Americans alone. You know, Congressman, I think
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right now Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, right now has to wonder what has
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hit him. Because now he is chasing all sorts of boxes of documents. He knows not where. And the same
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people who were condemning President Trump are now looking at President Joe Biden and asking what
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in the world was going on. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Lou. I mean, whether it's Hillary Clinton or
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Joe Biden, they're allowed to be reckless with America's secrets. But heaven forbid Donald Trump
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transport them, you know, appropriately to a skiff in Mar-a-Lago and then work with the archivist.
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That's not allowed. So we've got to raid his home, you know, have these federal agents going through
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his wife's underwear drawer and his son's sock drawer. It's appalling. What we don't know, look,
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why are we assuming that these folks turned over all the documents? Why are we taking their word for
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it? Why did it take them two months? Heck, two months. They've apparently had these documents for
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six years in an office where foreigners were coming in and out of. At least President Trump,
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who has the ability to declassify absolutely every single thing under the sun, had them under lock
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and key in the skiff, which was reviewed by these very same people. Why would we take the Democrats'
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word that they were doing anything above board here? Obviously, there's something very much amiss
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here. And you can't have two standards of justice. Lou, as you woke up today, you know,
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you see another shining example of two standards of justice, one for the elites, you know,
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who are well-connected and say the right things, and one for all the rest of us. Tomorrow, it's
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going to be another example. When are Americans going to be sick enough to do something about
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this? And this is where the weaponization of the federal government, the new church-style
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committee with the acronym WTFG, that's what we're going to get to the bottom of those kinds
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of things, because there has to be accountability.
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It is without question a two-tier system. As I look at it, it's a one-tier system of justice.
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The Marxist Dems get justice, and conservatives, well, they don't get justice of any kind at
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all. And I do have to say that putting in Mark Green as chair of the Homeland Security Committee
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sounds like a lot better choice than Congressman Dan Crenshaw. Your thoughts?
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Well, listen, Mark Green is a great member of Congress. Of course, you know he's a member
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of the Freedom Caucus. He's got a long and storied history, not only as a physician, but a combatant
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serving as a special forces, a special operator with the task force, the ones that go out and do
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the flying for the U.S. Army, the Night Stalkers. We're thrilled with his position as the chairman
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of Homeland Security. And look, if you're Secretary Mayorkas, your time of getting away with lying to
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the American people in Congress is over. I suggest that guy set up a cot in the Homeland Security
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hearing room and be prepared to be taken apart by Mark Green every single day of the week until
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the time of his impeachment. Let's return to the issue of those stolen documents, the difference
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in treatment, the two-tier system you referred to. How long do you think it'll take to produce real
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results and real change in Washington, D.C.? To roll back the swamp, just some.
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Well, I think some of it's going to go more quickly than others. You're going to see single
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subject bills. You're going to see a different approach to spending, I think. And so that'll
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happen almost immediately. Of course, you're already seeing bills that you like, like the
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getting rid of the 87,000 new IRS agents. You've already seen Adam Schiff, the habitual
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liar, and Eric Swalwell, who sleeps with Chinese spies and American-hating representatives taken
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from their committees. You're already seeing the signs of what can be done immediately.
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The investigations are going to take a little more time, Lou. We're Republicans. We're
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conservatives. We're people that believe in the process and the rule of law. And so we don't
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convict people before we have the evidence. So it's going to take a little time to get that
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evidence. And as you know, the administration's going to drag their feet every way they can.
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But I suspect there's still a few good people in these agencies that are going to be willing
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to come and talk to us and give us the evidence, and that'll help speed it up. But that's going to
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take a little more time, but we're going to be methodical so that when we know we have something,
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Well, I know that you and your colleagues will be judicious and you'll be fair, which is something
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that we couldn't say of the other party when they were in power in the House. And I want to get
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your thoughts about this, if I may, Congressman. It's curious that the Biden people didn't
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immediately bring this to the attention of the American voting public. Are you surprised?
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No, I'm not shocked, Lou. And it's always curious how these things work out. And we're
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supposed to just disregard them, forget them, and not wonder about the coincidental nature
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of elections vis-a-vis, oh, I don't know, the Hunter laptop or things like this. That's just
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coincidental. Look, I don't know how many times people have to see it before they start putting
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the connections together. But if they refuse to put those connections together, we're going
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to continue to remind them. We're going to have a smile on our face, but we're going to
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continue to remind them and show them the bold differences between the leftist party that
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wants to take your freedoms away and rule you and a conservative Republican party that
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wants to abide by the Constitution and let Americans live free and exercise their rights
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Congressman Perry, always great to have you here to talk with you. And as you know, we
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always give our guests the last word, your concluding thoughts, if you will.
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My concluding thoughts are these, Lou. Look, we just fought to give the tools to this Republican
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Congress, two of the Congress. But we're going to need everybody to weigh in, knowing that
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they have the tools to stop this insanity, stop these midnight dumps of $1.7 trillion bills
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from the Senate, stop these Christmas tree bills, and stop having accountability for the
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elite ruling class in Washington. But it is going to take the American people to be engaged,
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to stay engaged. Know that there's, know that the, you know, that things have changed
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in Washington, D.C. Don't lose, don't lose your enthusiasm. Don't be discouraged. Get
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back in the fight if you're out of it. Stay in the fight if you've been in it. Let's demand
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that these tools be used. This is our government. We, the people, are the ones that, that rule
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this country. We don't serve the government. The government serves us, and we need your help
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in making sure that continues to happen. Thank you. Congressman Scott Perry, great American.
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Bureau, keeping watch over left-wing media. Please join us here tomorrow. Till then, God bless