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00:00:33.180Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:01:16.620Biden's reference to debating on a Wednesday is a jab at President Trump because that is the one day a week that Trump is off from Alvin Bragg's lawfare trial in New York.
00:01:28.180Wasn't that cute and clever of this absolutely stultifying president of ours?
00:01:35.380Biden and Trump on Wednesday accepted an invitation from CNN for a debate on June 27th.
00:01:41.240Trump also accepted ABC News' invitation to debate Biden on September 10th.
00:01:49.100Trump has called for more than just two debates, though, against the puppet president, saying the American people should see how impaired Joe Biden really is.
00:01:58.080And the Biden campaign also sent a letter to the commission on presidential debates demanding that there be no audience at those debates.
00:02:06.500The letter reads the debate should be conducted for the benefit of the American voters watching on television and at home, not as entertainment for an in-person audience with raucous or disruptive partisans and donors who consume valuable debate time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering.
00:02:26.880Biden's team, Biden's team, Biden's team, Biden's team seemed to forget that he is the king of big dollar donors and elitists.
00:02:32.400They're going to be some sorely disappointed people if that condition holds up.
00:02:39.640Congressman Mike Gallagher has himself a brand new job, just as I predicted.
00:02:45.040Gallagher was the congressman from Wisconsin who refused to give up his seat before the date in which there could be a special election, subsequently giving the Dems an extra vote in the House.
00:02:55.200The rhino has joined Microsoft-backed venture capital firm Titletown Tech as a strategic advisor.
00:03:04.040And speaking of rhinos, Mike Pence is demanding taxpayers pay out his embarrassing presidential campaign debt, according to a report from the New York Times.
00:03:15.060Pence seeking taxpayer funds in December after realizing that his campaign could no longer pay its bills.
00:03:21.740Pence has something like $1.3 million in unpaid debts from that campaign.
00:03:27.960Our guest today is Congressman Jim Jordan.
00:03:31.300He's the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:03:34.300And Jordan and his committee have just referred Michael Cohen to the Justice Department for lying to Congress.
00:03:42.720And now Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:03:46.660Congressman, it's great to have you with us.
00:04:02.040Well, Michael Cohen's a convicted perjurer.
00:04:04.080He lied multiple times to the United States Congress a couple sessions back.
00:04:09.020I mean, six times he lied to the Oversight Committee when when he came and testified, when the Democrats were kind of kicking off their whole effort to go after President Trump back in 2019.
00:04:18.340And of course, he's he's we had a hearing today where we had in his former lawyer, Robert Costello and Michael Cohen has waived attorney client privilege.
00:04:29.520And Robert Costello talked about the number of false things Michael Cohen has said up in the trial in in in New York, this ridiculous trial that's going on up there.
00:04:39.940So, yeah, we referred him again to the Justice Department and we'll see what happens.
00:04:45.760I don't know that Merrick Garland is going to do much, but I think it just underscores again how crazy all these efforts are to go after President Trump.
00:04:53.980All these cases are falling apart, right?
00:04:57.140I mean, Fannie Willis's boyfriend, Nathan Wade, goes to D.C. on the taxpayer dime, talks to the January 6th committee, to the White House, all in an effort to go after President Trump.
00:05:08.560Alvin Bragg's case up here in New York, his star witness is Michael Cohen, who everybody knows can't tell the truth.
00:05:15.960And then, of course, last week, Jack Smith, we find out the classified documents that he sees, the documents that he sees are not in the same order as when he sees them.
00:05:28.080The physical documents don't match up with the scan documents.
00:05:31.080Some people might call that tampering with evidence.
00:05:33.700And I actually think in this situation with Jack Smith, the irony is Jack Smith mishandled documents while he's charging President Trump with mishandling documents.
00:05:43.700You can't you can't make this stuff up. So all these cases are falling apart because they were all ridiculous from the get go.
00:05:53.120And as you say, the prosecutors right now look like the people who should have been prosecuted.
00:05:58.820I mean, Jack Smith, as far as I'm concerned, is nothing more than a well, he's a lawbreaker.
00:06:05.420He is a he is a criminal against this country for going after President of the United States.
00:06:10.900Yeah, we heard about them from Jim Trusty, who represented President Trump in the classified documents case for a while.
00:06:16.900We heard about that today in his testimony in front of our committee about just some of the some of the ridiculous things done by Jack Smith prosecution team where they had one lawyer in there and they said, I thought I can't believe you won't have your your client work with us.
00:06:32.400You know, there's a judgeship. I know you're interested. I mean, that actually, according to that, that actually happened.
00:06:38.120So and on and on it goes with these things. Here's the other interesting thing, Lou.
00:06:43.180Every one of these individuals. So so Jack Smith, Merrick Garland names Jack Smith special counsel three days after President Trump announces he's running for office.
00:06:54.540And then Alvin Bragg said, I would never see there's never going to be a situation where I will indict President Trump and call Michael Cohen as a prosecution witness.
00:07:03.920But then he changed and decided to do just that after President Trump announced that he was running for president.
00:07:10.840And Fonnie Willis didn't bring charges against President Trump until after he announces that he's running for president of the United States.
00:07:19.140That tells you more than anything how political this whole operation is without a question.
00:07:25.240And as you point out, these prosecutors in every instance collaborating with the Biden White House, with the Biden Justice Department, whether it's Colangelo, the number three in justice going up to work with Alvin Bragg for crying out loud.
00:07:41.120It is one contemptible set of circumstances after another, all of it orchestrated by the Biden White House.
00:07:50.220Let's go to your committee now investigating the manipulated evidence by the the FBI in that classified records case.
00:08:00.260Is there going to be an opportunity to hold anyone to account for it?
00:08:04.900Well, we're going to try. You know, I get this question a lot, Lou.
00:08:08.720And look, I share the frustration that so many people have. No, no, no, that is fine.
00:08:14.060We're going to do everything we can possibly do as a legislative body.
00:08:17.320We can't ever indict people. We know that's the executive branch.
00:08:20.560But we can do oversight and we can we can get the information to the American people.
00:08:26.880We can propose legislative changes. We can even hold people in contempt, which we're scheduled to do tomorrow for the attorney general of the United States,
00:08:33.820because he won't give us information that we think we should we should have.
00:08:36.920So we're going to do everything and we can use the power of the purse.
00:08:40.180Frankly, that's that's the power of the founders and vision that that that the legislative branch would would would have to use it and use the most.
00:08:48.020So all those weapons are there, not weapons, but those are tools that we can use to to to have things move in the right direction.
00:08:55.200So we're going to look at all those things.
00:08:58.240The investigation into Fannie Willis, will there be in in that case, will there be consequence for her?
00:09:07.980Because she has just simply I mean, she has been absolutely abusing her power as a prosecutor.
00:09:15.760The instances that the enumeration should bring what everybody is responsible for her lack of integrity should they should be investigating as well.
00:09:26.740Well, we've subpoenaed Nathan Wade. He no longer works for the for this Fulton County D.A.
00:09:33.540We want to know about all his communications, documents and communications he's had with with folks here in D.C., with with January 6th committee, with the White House.
00:09:42.440So we want to get that information. We wanted that we will actually bring him in for an interview.
00:09:47.320So we'll pursue all that. But I think the country clears clearly sees that that case is a mess.
00:09:54.240It's completely falling apart because it was it was ridiculous from the get go.
00:09:57.420But when you think about we have a whistleblower who's talked to who's come public in that case,
00:10:03.320saying that Fannie Willis misspent federal dollars.
00:10:07.300So I think that's falling apart on its own.
00:10:09.320But we're going to do everything we can to get the truth to the American people.
00:10:13.000Well, and we're going to find out what else the chairman, Jordan, and his committee are doing to get the truth to the American people.
00:10:21.340Right after these quick words. Stay with us.
00:10:23.460We'll be right back with Chairman Jim Jordan. Stay with us.
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00:12:29.320And when you're in the IRS and you come forward, you have to work through the Ways and Means Committee.
00:12:33.960Mr. Shapley and Mr. Ziegler did everything to the letter of the law.
00:12:39.400And, of course, their testimony has stood up to cross-examination, multiple hours of cross-examination in an open hearing from the Democrats.
00:12:47.300David Weiss's story has changed multiple times.
00:12:49.400The Biden family story has changed multiple times.
00:12:52.120The White House story has changed multiple times.
00:13:42.360Whatever happened to the idea that whatever else happened in government, you had to protect whistleblowers.
00:13:50.160It looks like open season on whistleblowers in point of fact.
00:13:54.060Yeah, because what the FBI will do, almost the first thing they do when they go after these guys is they come forward with valuable information,
00:14:01.980telling the truth is they'll take away their security clearance.
00:14:04.800And that is that is the worst thing, almost the worst thing that happened to an agent,
00:14:08.960because without your security clearance, you cannot do your job.
00:14:11.980And that's exactly what they're doing to these guys who've come forward from the FBI.
00:14:16.440Now, there's a court case with Shapley and Ziegler where the people are supposed to be representing them
00:14:21.660or the very people they said were abusing the process and the investigation.
00:14:25.640So that's sort of a conflict of interest issue they got going.
00:14:28.780And they're concerned about what's what's going to what's going to move forward there.
00:14:32.220So that's a concern that's been raised from Mr. Shapley, Mr. Ziegler with the IRS and the court case that that exists there.
00:14:39.180We have just received word that President Trump will indeed debate Joe Biden.
00:14:47.740Now, this gets really interesting because Joe Biden doesn't seem like on most days that he's capable of getting across the stage
00:14:55.140or pinning together a complete sentence.
00:14:59.260But if indeed he shows any lucidity all in that debate, that'll be, I believe, June 27th at CNN of all places.
00:15:08.760By the way, I can't even imagine why the president agreed to such nonsense.
00:15:12.780And the people who will let him do it, I think I would fire them out of hand if I were being helpful.
00:15:22.000But to the point, if he is lucid in that debate, does that mean that Robert Herr, the special counsel, will be able to prosecute him?
00:15:30.140Well, look, I mean, my first reaction is, you know, shazam, we're going to have a debate between the candidates for president United States like we do every four years.
00:15:45.040Normally, that would not be that newsworthy.
00:15:46.840But with President Biden, as you point out, all the gaps and the lack of ability to communicate in what seems like a logical fashion,
00:15:55.420that's why it's actually newsworthy, because he's going to do this.
00:15:58.540So I think President Trump will win the debates, whether it's on CNN or whatever network, because, I mean, Joe Biden, it's tougher to put two sentences together.
00:16:10.960And trying to defend his record is going to be next to impossible.
00:16:13.860I want to turn to, to me, a deeply troubling partnership, and that's Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray announcing a government censorship apparatus of some kind to target cyber-enabled campaigns and censor Americans in the run-up to the 2024 election.
00:17:05.880They actually knew it wasn't a Russian hack-and-leak operation.
00:17:09.700They knew that at the time, and yet they allowed that narrative to take hold, and because they had been pressuring big tech companies to censor certain speech,
00:17:19.880the big tech companies, I think when that narrative took hold, the big tech companies kept that story from circulating like it normally would on those social media platforms.
00:17:32.340So with that backdrop and that history, which I think was huge election interference,
00:17:38.220because it happened literally about 20 days before the presidential election,
00:17:42.140we're watching this closely, what the FBI and the DOJ are talking about this fall.
00:17:48.520It's a concern to me, particularly when you think about all the other censorship,
00:17:52.280the pressure from government on these big tech companies to censor conservatives,
00:17:57.120not just relative to that issue, but other issues, particularly COVID, how wrong that all was.
00:18:02.920We're talking with Chairman Jim Jordan.
00:18:04.800We'll be right back after this quick message.
00:21:16.480We know the White House has altered transcripts because the White House and the Justice Department say you've got the transcript committee.
00:21:38.460And when you get the transcript, the word pause is not in the transcript.
00:21:42.560So someone has altered what was communicated and what was in the transcript.
00:21:47.420We think we deserve this audio tape, particularly when you're talking about the American people being able to fully evaluate the two candidates for the highest office in the land.
00:21:58.040You know, when you talk about the fitness of this president, it's germane to nearly every aspect.
00:22:06.320That is, her special counsel investigation, the reason that he gave him a pass.
00:22:12.300I mean, that is straightforwardly a suggestion that he's not fit.
00:22:23.100Will you take this to the Supreme Court if they continue to stonewall you?
00:22:27.720Well, we're going to we never take anything off the table, but we're going to go one step at a time right now.
00:22:32.200There's a markup schedule for for tomorrow where we will mark up the contempt resolution.
00:22:38.400And then we'll see what what Speaker Johnson and Leader Scalise and the Republican conference, what we do next with with that, whether if and when it goes to the floor.
00:22:47.620But you take this stuff one step at a time in your effort to get the truth and do the oversight.
00:22:52.860The Constitution requires us to do in Congress.
00:22:55.720Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
00:22:59.620Thank you, sir, for everything you do in the country.