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For the first time, congressional subpoenas have been issued for sworn testimony by James Comer, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, on the Biden Crime Family. Congressman Tom Tiffany (D-Wisconsin) joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to discuss the move.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
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Congressional subpoenas are on their way to the Biden crime family, demanding in-person
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depositions from Hunter, James and former business associate Rob Walker. And for the first time,
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congressional subpoenas issued for sworn testimony. House Oversight Committee Chairman
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James Comer has been working toward this moment for 10 months. The chairman told me here on The
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Great America Show a week ago to the day that the subpoenas would be issued in days for the Biden
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family and Chairman Comer, a man of his word and a great American. Comer has proven time and time
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again he doesn't play games or waste time. He and his committee mean business. Additional subpoenas
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going out to other Biden family members and Biden business associates, including James Biden's wife,
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Sarah Biden, President Biden's daughter-in-law, Hallie Biden, the widow of President Biden's son,
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Beau, who was later romantically involved with Hunter, Hallie Biden's older sister, Elizabeth Secundi,
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and Hunter Biden's wife, Melissa Cohen. Chairman Comer was asked just before issuing those subpoenas
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what he would do if any of the people defied the subpoena. And here is what Chairman Comer had to
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say. I'm going to go to Mike Johnson's office and knock on the door and demand that we try to hold
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these people in contempt of Congress. We've proven that there are a lot of questions that they need
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to answer. We've proven that this is a national security crisis. We've proven that the White House
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has lied time and time again about their knowledge and involvement in this shady influence-pailing
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scheme. Now we've proven that Joe Biden benefited to the tune of a quarter of a million dollars.
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These are very serious charges. This is a very credible, very serious investigation of criminal
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wrongdoing, of public corruption. And we expect people to come to Congress. And if they don't,
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then I think they should be held in contempt. And I believe that a majority of the Republican
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As Chairman Comer's remarks demonstrate, the congressional investigations of President
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Biden have now entered a new phase. Just hours before Comer sent out the subpoenas,
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Hunter Biden's attorney, Abby Lowell, sent a letter to Speaker Mike Johnson in which he asked him to
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intervene against the Judiciary Oversight and Ways and Means Committee's investigations of Hunter
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Biden. Lowell wrote, quote, We write today to urge you, Mr. Speaker, to use your newly minted
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leadership posts responsibly and ask you to think twice before joining this spectacle. Even in the
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era of alternative facts, your colleagues' manipulation and disregard for the truth is
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breathtaking. End quote. In my opinion, Abby Lowell's letter was breathtaking in its arrogance.
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The only manipulation and disregard in all of this originates with Hunter and Joe Biden.
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These three investigating committees have produced, in my opinion, more than sufficient
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fact-based evidence to begin the impeachment of President Joe Biden. Raj Shah, Speaker Johnson's
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deputy chief of staff for communications, released the following statement in response to Lowell's
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letter. Quote, President Biden and the White House have repeatedly lied to the
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American people about his involvement and knowledge of the Biden family's business dealings,
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receiving millions through their shell companies from foreign adversaries. We have learned this
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because of the diligent work of House investigators who will continue to follow the facts where they
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may lead. End quote. Our guest today is one of those investigators, a member of the House
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Judiciary Committee, who has watched this all play out firsthand. He's Congressman Tom Tiffany of
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Wisconsin. And Congressman, it is great to have you with us. As you know, Breaking Developments,
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Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, and Business Associates, all subpoenaed by Oversight Committee Chairman James
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Comer. Your reaction to the decision to move forward with these subpoenas?
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I'm not surprised at all in talking to Representative Comer. We've seen it, Lou, right? Representative Comer
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has done this methodical process of bringing information forward. We are now at the point where it's time for
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subpoenas to hear from them what they have to say in regards to all those foreign checks that they've
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received. Now, what is your thinking on going across the entire family moving? And Comer has been very
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direct about that. He said he's going to subpoena and bring those family members all before the committee
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and their records. Do you think that's the wisest way to go here?
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I think it's a good approach because let's get the information out there. I mean, Representative Comer's
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committee, that Oversight Committee, they have been charged with reviewing the Biden family's
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interests. And is there corruption there? What has all gone on there with their relationship with
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Burisma, the Ukrainian oil company, with checks coming from China to the Biden family and then
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being funneled to Joe Biden? I mean, he's been charged with unearthing all of that. I do think
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that the next step here to do those subpoenas of Hunter Biden, I think that's appropriate.
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And the committee, Chairman Comer is putting everyone on notice. And the Biden family, everyone,
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husbands, wives, girlfriends, lovers, I mean, almost everyone that's been in a hot tub with Hunter
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apparently could end up being subpoenaed. Well, the money was certainly spread around the whole
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operation. I mean, it was one of the witnesses that came forward this past summer. Sorry,
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the name is blanking on me. But he said that Joe Biden was the brand. And you have the whole Biden
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family and people know that his brother Jim has been involved with this. And of course, Hunter's
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at the center of it. And so it's not surprising that Representative Comer is going to say,
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let's find out from all family members, because it appears most, if not all of them benefited from
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this foreign largesse. Right. And I think that the source of that comment was, I believe,
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Devin Archer could have been a number of others as well. But the associates of Hunter Biden,
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it's going to be quite, quite a, this is quite a development. And I think everyone has to be
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encouraged by it. And just to that point, do you believe the other committees, in addition to
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oversight, are going to follow suit with energetic use of subpoenas now? Yeah, so I mean, you've been
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seeing it from judiciary ways and means. They've really been getting after it. And whichever committee
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of jurisdiction, they are tasked with getting all the information forward in regards to
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the Biden family. I want to add one other real quick thing. Remember, this ultimately is not
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about Hunter Biden. While he's the center part of this in the Biden family, keeps Joe Biden,
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keeps trying to portray this as, you know, they're going after my son. He's a poor crackhead that,
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you know, he couldn't help what happened. He's trying to straighten out his life and all the rest.
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No, this is about Joe Biden. And Representative Comer has made that very clear from the very
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beginning. This is about Joe Biden. And did he use his influence to enrich his family?
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We've now have before your committee, the Judiciary Committee, contradictions and established
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contradictions now of Merrick Garland's statements about David Weiss and his status as an independent
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operator, if you will, or a special counsel. Your reaction to all that you've heard?
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Lou, so that's why we've been doing this steady methodical process over the last number of months.
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And certainly, I suspect some of your listeners are frustrated. They're like,
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why don't you guys just get on with this? But I think it's been very important to use this
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methodical approach. But what comes out now? We're finding out that Gary Shapley and Ziegler,
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the two whistleblowers, their information that they've shared with us a few months ago
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is being corroborated. And that has happened now in regards to Weiss, in regards to the special
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attorney status that he would have. It turns out that the Department of Justice denied that to him,
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Where do we go with that from here? Merrick Garland lied. And I guess the kind way to put it is David Weiss
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had a number of iterations that conflicted about that reality.
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You know, the thing I can't understand about this, Lou, is why would David Weiss, I mean, it appears
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that he was, you know, call it in cahoots with Merrick Garland. I mean, why would you do that? Why
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would you jeopardize your career in such a way? Now, we have more information that we have to find out
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in regards to this. But I just don't get it why Weiss just didn't come clean on all of this before.
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Because not only is Merrick Garland going to look really bad as we go along here, David Weiss is now
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too. And speaking of looking bad, the Biden White House in the midst of this Hamas-Israel war
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that resulted from the October 7th massacre, we're looking at an administration that has said that
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they want cease fires. He wants a moral equivalency between Hamas and Israel. He wants to bring
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Palestinian refugees into the United States. I'm accustomed to the inconsistencies, the ineptitude
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of this administration. But this is bald-faced madness in which they're delivering all of these
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statements and policy initiatives that are contradictory, conflicting, and certainly not in
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the interests of the United States or Israel. Well, regarding Hamas and the war against them
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by Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu is correct to follow through with the destruction of Hamas.
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They just have no choice in regards to it. But a big concern here on the home front, and we have a
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bill, the Gaza Act, that says no one with a Palestinian authority passport can come into the United States
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at this time. And we are trying to advance this bill. And I think it's really important, Lou, because
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we see it by a couple members of the New York delegation, Ocasio-Cortez and Bowman. They're saying,
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well, why don't we bring in that up to one million refugees into America? And the thing that concerns me
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is the Biden administration has not ruled it out. They have not unequivocally ruled it out. And with
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their track record that we have over the last two and a half years, can we trust the Biden
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administration to do the right thing, to vet people properly and not try to jam more refugees in?
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We can't trust the Biden administration. So we are being really vigilant about this. And I hope all
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your listeners are also, I hope they're contacting their representatives and say, no more refugees,
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especially after what's happened on the border here the last two and a half years.
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And you've introduced legislation. And as you correctly pointed out, we can't trust them.
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They brought in 10 million illegal immigrants. His administration has throughout said that they
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had operational control of our southern border, while at the same time, they've turned over control
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of that southern border with Mexico to the Mexican drug cartels. How in the world do we,
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how do we manage an administration that is clearly, clearly in favor of wide open immigration across
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our southern border, irrespective of the fact that we don't know who they are, what they're doing,
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and how they're providing for themselves other than $30,000 to $40,000 a year in federal assistance?
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Well, you bring up the first and best example, Lou, and that is what has happened at the southern
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border. You know, the people coming in on the terror watch list, you know, probably the largest
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human trafficking operation in the history of the world that our federal government is complicit in
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as a result of the Biden administration's actions. And then, of course, the fentanyl that flows in
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number one killer of young people in America. But we also have the history of the Biden administration
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with the evacuation of Afghanistan. And I think that's the closest parallel to what we're looking at
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in regards to Gaza. Because the State Department said afterwards, they said, just get them on the
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plane and we'll deal with the immigration stuff later. As a result, we had people coming in
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that had been removed, coming in from Afghanistan, that had been removed previously because of criminal
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records. And we ended up having, what did the Department of Defense say, at least 50 people that
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came in from Afghanistan, they identified as high security threats. So the Biden administration has
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this record, whether it's the southern border, whether it's Afghanistan, whatever, you can't trust
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them in regards to national security. All of this is the will of the people being expressed in these
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polls. And in every instance, the Biden administration is exactly opposite to public will and to
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to the U.S. Congress on these issues. How does it resolve?
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Well, the people of the United States need to make it a number one priority. And we're hoping
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that they will do that. So we in the House, we've passed the best secure the border bill that's ever
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been passed, H.R. 2. And we need to continue to promote and try to get that done. Because there
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are Democrats that are squirming at this point in regards to it. But it's a whole thing in regards to
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elections have consequences. People, we have to make sure that it's elevated as, you know, that top
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two or three issues before the American people in 2024. Because don't forget, though, why is this
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going on? This goes back to Barack Obama and his transformation of America in 2008, 2009, whenever he
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said that. This is his third term and is becoming more and more evident. This is his third term. You're
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seeing him pop up, even President, former President Obama regularly. He never left Washington, D.C.
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This is the attempt to diminish America. This is the managed decline that they talked about.
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And they want to continue this. They want the transformation of America. And more and more
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Americans are waking up to that fact. Waking up to that fact. And we're talking with Congressman
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Tom Tiffany. We're going to be right back after these quick messages. Please stay with us.
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We're back. We're talking with Tom Tiffany, Congressman of Wisconsin. I want to, if I may,
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turn to what you just said, talking about this president. He's enfeebled. He's inept. There is,
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I think, most people, honest and direct about what they think of him. He's unfit for the office,
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clearly, physically and cognitively. Yet, no one wants to press harder and say, and at least ask,
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if they don't have an opinion, who is in charge? Who is making these decisions, these policy decisions,
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foreign policy, domestic, whatever it may be? How concerned are you about the fact that the United
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States Congress and the United States Senate and the American people have no idea who is actually
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behind the curtain? Well, so when we talked just a couple of minutes ago, Lou, we talked about
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President Obama wanted the transformation of America. This is his third term. And they found
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this president who will simply carry it out without asking any questions. And so, I mean, I don't want
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to use the word puppet, but I mean, he's not the person in charge at this point, that being Joe Biden.
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But when you look at who populates the Biden administration, so many of them came from the
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Obama administration. These are Obama sycophants. And they are there to implement these policies,
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whether it's environmental, shutting down energy production here in America, the border,
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Mayorkas. I mean, he was involved with the Obama administration, Secretary Mayorkas.
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And then, of course, there's foreign policy, which is just an absolute disaster. Those same people
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that were there in the Obama years, at least many of them, are here in the Biden administration.
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They were put in place for a reason. Joe Biden didn't fully vet them the titular White House
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that the Obama people have yet. Remember, Barack Obama is the first president that did not leave
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Washington, D.C., after completing his two terms in office. All other presidents have went back home,
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not Barack Obama, because he did not achieve the transformation of America in two terms.
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And looking at Susan Rice, any number of top officials in this administration,
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a lot of folks don't even know. I mean, of the top hundred jobs when this administration
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came into power, 70 of them went to Obama administration personnel. It's an extraordinary
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connection between the two. As we look at the Palestinians, no one wants to talk in the left-wing
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Marxist media or corporate media, if you prefer. I mean, it's remarkable how many corporate
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structures now have a Marxist philosophy at the heart of their HR policies. But the Palestinians
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will not find a home in an Arab state because people are criticizing the United States for not
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wanting to bring these people in. But the Arab countries themselves refuse to tolerate their
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presence because of Hamas and all of the other terroristic history of the Palestinians.
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The king of Jordan just a couple of weeks ago, speaking for both Jordan, also for Egypt,
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he said the red line for us is no Palestinian refugees. The red line for them, the neighbors
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of the Palestinians said, no, we will not do that. So why in the world would Americans a half a world
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away do something that their neighbors won't? It's a great question. And the answer is staring
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everybody in the face. Your thoughts about why we have this? We talk about the cognitive dissonance
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of this president, but we've got a cognitive rupture between the national corporate media
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and the reality, whether it's the reality of what's happening in the United States Congress,
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the reality of what's happening in Israel or in the South China Sea. It's almost impossible to get
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away from the disinformation and misinformation campaigns that originate with this administration.
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Well, I think part of it is, I mean, there really is the transformation that they're attempting to do
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with America. The thing that really concerns me at this point, Lou, is that as we bring in people to
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our country and we're a nation of immigrants and we want it to be that way, but look at all the people
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that are jumping ahead of those that want to come here legally. And my concern at this point,
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if we do not have this assimilation, which is at the heart, which is the melting pot,
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which is at the heart of American prosperity in this great land known as the United States of America,
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without assimilation, we are going to become more like the countries people are leaving from.
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And I believe most of those people, including many that come here illegally, they want to come to
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this America that's Reagan's shining city on a hill. What they're going to find out is we're becoming
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more like their homelands and that's the worst thing possible. And it's clear the Biden and the Obama
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crowd, that's okay with them because they believe in managed decline. They do not believe in a great
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America, this one global superpower. They just simply don't believe in it. I mean,
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Madeleine Albright talked about it back when she was Clinton's Secretary of State back in the 90s.
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I mean, those should have been warning signs to all Americans that they don't believe in the
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greatness of America. And we have to deliver that message about how America really is a great country
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and try to overcome what has happened in our educational system that has really diminished
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It's truly a nation of exceptionalism. And we should be very proud of that as I know you and I agree on
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that. And I think this entire audience does as well. We're talking with Tom Tiffany, Congressman of
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Wisconsin. And we're going to talk more about this war on what is cultural Marxism, what is a
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fifth column that has grown up in this country, and what is happening in the 118th Congress
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to bring us to the top of the hill and prevail against such evil forces. We'll be right back.
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So we're back now with Congressman Tom Tiffany. And Congressman,
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let's talk about your new speaker, the energy of the 118th Congress with new leadership.
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And as you correctly stated at the outset of today's podcast, the American people see with clear eyes
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the evidence that has been brought forward by the House Oversight Committee, the House Judiciary Committee,
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the weaponization subcommittee, the House Ways and Means Committee. And the American people know that
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there is more than enough evidence to bring charges of impeachment against Joe Biden. And I understand
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the necessity and the urge to follow the book, as it were. But there is no book on common sense and
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judgment here, political judgments that says, you know, this has to happen. Your thoughts?
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Yeah, so I certainly hear that sentiment. The thing that I say, Lou, too, and many of my constituents have
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brought this up, and I believe rightfully so, is that I will not be a Democrat. I will not be Adam
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Schiff. I will not be Nancy Pelosi and do ready-fire aim in regards to an impeachment as they did to
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Donald Trump. I agree with the approach that we've taken. It's been steady, methodical, and we continue
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to unearth more and more information because ultimately we have to bring the American people
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along on this. And it takes a while because, you know, for the average person, they don't consume
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politics the way we do, thankfully. But they're getting more and more information in regards to
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this, and it's important information. And I know Representative Comer has more that he's just going
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to keep bringing out because it's all there. The Biden family, we know the money that they've taken
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from these foreign interests, and we're going to continue to connect the dots. I do think that's the
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right way to do it. It's slow, it's laborious, and it can be really frustrating, but it is the right
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way to do it. It is the right way, but I guess the question I would ask, is it the only way?
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Because when you compare yourself in opposition to what Adam Schiff is,
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but when you mention Adam Schiff and when you mention Nancy Pelosi, we're not talking about simply
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a bum's rush, you know, ideological fervor in ignoring the facts. We're talking about two
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people who lied through their teeth, and they lied consistently and constantly over a two-year period
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until the President of the United States was impeached and then impeached again, who had two
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special councils formed against him. It's unheard of. He's a record holder, and we all know that it is
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built on lies. The American people right now know everything that, and let's just focus on the House
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Oversight Committee. Everything that's been produced there, the SARS reports, all of the records,
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they point to corruption at a level and a height that we have never seen before in the highest office
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in the land. If this is not impeachable with just the evidence before us, I don't know why we would,
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I don't know why we would even pursue it then, because this says, this man is corrupt, and the
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evidence is clear. And as to persuading Americans, I believe more Americans, and I think the polls show
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it clearly, the Americans are American people, citizens. We're all convinced. We understand what
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the evidence is. We would love to hear the answer. And two-thirds, over two-thirds of the American people
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understand that the charges against President Trump in this eight years of political persecution
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is all politically motivated. The American people, as you said, have to be brought along.
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But we're not being brought along as dullards. You know, we are being brought along in terms of
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at what point do our leaders step and say, this cannot stand. We are on the precipice,
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some would say, of World War III, and we're content to leave an obviously corrupt and impaired
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and compromised man in the White House as Commander-in-Chief. I don't see how anyone in Congress
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or the Senate could take it as anything other than their urgent responsibility to replace him with a
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competent leader and certainly with leaders whose faces we know and whose voices we hear,
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rather than the people behind that black curtain. I think it's a fair critique there, Lou.
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So this decision ultimately gets made a little bit above my pay grade. But all I know, what I'm going to
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do is I'm going to continue to work to put the information out. I'm going to continue to participate in
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the hearings in the Judiciary Committee when people like Merrick Garland come before us,
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Christopher Wray, and continue to make the case for the American people. And then we'll let
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leadership make that decision if they believe we need to pull the trigger on those impeachment
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proceedings. But we're going to continue to reveal more and more information. And by the way,
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we've had some, we've had some wins in regards to this, because that's one of the key questions
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constituents asked me is like, what are you guys going to do something? But if you take a look at
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like the IRS and what they did to Matt Taibbi, when they went to his home, when he was testifying that
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day before Congress, in regards to what the big tech companies were doing in league with our intelligence
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agencies like the FBI, the IRS commissioner now has, the head of the IRS has, has made a firm commitment.
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I, we will not be doing that anymore. We will not do anything like we did to Matt Taibbi again.
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And so we put them on notice and we're going to hold them to that small win in the scheme of things.
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But those are the things that we are working towards is trying to protect Americans.
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So, you know, very simply their constitutional rights.
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Right. Well, I think appropriations taking down the salary of Pete Buttigieg, the transportation
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secretary to a level that he's earned, which is a dollar a year, is also a major win. It's been
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great talking with you here, Congressman. And I know that the complexities are rising and the volume is
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rising. And we appreciate everything that you and your colleagues are doing in each of these
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investigating committees. And at this point, I say to you, God bless you and Godspeed.
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Thanks so much for being with us. Really good to join you once again, Lou.
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