The Best Of The Great America Show: November 28, 2024
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Mark mitchell, the leading pollster for Rasmussenussen, joins me on the show to talk about the results of the 2020 election and why he was right about EVERYTHING. Plus, who were the biggest losers of this election?
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us thanks so
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much for joining us well matt gates is officially out as the nominee for attorney general florida
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ag pam bondi is in uh president trump making the announcement on truth social last night
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a lot of interesting things going on but with gates out uh it seems the marxist dems are going
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to have a new person to go after and it'll probably be pete hikeseth uh the man tapped
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to run the pentagon folks on today's show i want to do a deep dive and a breakdown of what went on
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in the 2024 election as for the polls who was right who was wrong why were they wrong uh what was the
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agenda they had that they set out on and why would they ruin their reputations the little bit that
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they had left um our guest today is mark mitchell he's the leading pollster uh for rasmussen a great
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friend of the show a terrific pollster um and one of the few to get it right and he was right all
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along mark mitchell it's great to have you back here on the great america show it's been about
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two weeks since you've been on the show election day was the last time you're here you were
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gracious enough to join our 2 a.m live stream um where we had some fun going over some of these
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numbers and watching these marxist left melt leftist melt down so i asked you to come on today because i
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wanted to do a quote victory lap before i head out on vacation uh over to asia because you were right
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mark you were right about everything you were honest about everything i spoke to you first i think
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around the time of august and you told me from the time of august where your polling was at
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and and that you were even being airing on the side of caution where you were under polling trumpers a
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little bit just because you knew that there was some sort of baked in margin of error that you
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didn't want to be wrong on turned out you were right about absolutely everything and i give you
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credit on social media i give you credit on every single show i do where i talk about
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polling because like i said you're right about everything so now let's have some fun
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who were the biggest idiots who were the biggest uh losers of this election aside from almost like
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99 of pollsters yeah basically it turns out if you're a pollster and you're owned by a major media
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company you just absolutely are horrible at your jobs four to six points in the wrong direction
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and i there were some people that had some good polls but the thing is is if you get a real clear
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politics and filter for these people what you're going to see is there there's people like us that
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put out actually there really aren't any people like us but we put out a freaking ton of polls we put
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out more polls than anybody else but morning consult on a national level uh we put out almost more than
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anybody else on the state level too and every single states that we put out showed donald trump
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winning the electoral college map every single national poll we put out and basically on average trump
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winning by two points then you got morning consult who had trump winning once and then they have 15
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polls with harris plus four five six and then the other thing you'll see is like oh okay that's great
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wall street journal you did three polls one of them had harris plus one another one had trump plus three
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it's like okay whatever lucky call right like good job yeah uh but what what we were doing is fighting
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an info war because there were just so much lying going on and we were basically alone on that so
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again there are other pollsters i think that did a good job rich paris put out some really accurate
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numbers i think trafalgar had somewhat good time too i don't think they pulled any national races but
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i think their states were okay although i think we kind of beat them and everybody else just i mean
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marist yikes reuters ipsos absolutely horrible they had harris plus six at one point yeah then i will say
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that one of the things you may hear is the polling is more accurate this time
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it is true but that's because i think we totally shamed everybody into trying to save their
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credibility at the last minute and all of the polls moved back right because everybody realized
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deep down inside and they wouldn't say it in the news deep down inside that trump was going to win
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you know it's funny you mentioned trafalgar uh right before the election when we spoke i told you
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robert is a good friend of mine i'd known him for some years from the polling and stuff i'm bringing
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him on the show and i asked i went through state by state with robert before the election and i said
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robert you know i want to go through the states i told him i was like i don't trust nevada he goes
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it's funny you say that because nevada is my kryptonite so i go to look at robert's uh polling
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in nevada he goes i don't think i've ever gotten nevada right so i go to look at robert's polling on
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election night and he had donald trump losing nevada by point two yeah so i go i think we had you on
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the show at the time and i go mark i hope he's right and you said uh michigan was i believe it was
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your kryptonite and you had missed michigan by a little bit as well right yeah i had a harris plus
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point eight or something like that on average uh i think our final poll might have been harris plus
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one there and you know it was within the margin of error but that's like when you have toss up races
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like that you basically flip a coin and i said to everybody i thought my state polling was a little
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too left yes it turns out if you average up all of the errors it was 0.7 points to left and actually
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my final calls where i think it was only uh 0.5 or 0.6 percent so essentially there was no bias
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whatsoever which is pretty crazy because as the industry refers to us as a right leaning pollster
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we actually lean left they're just saying well we you you lean more right than all of the liars
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and it's like guilty as charged and there was like we did have polling error like we had arizona
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going trump plus two and it was an absolute trump blowout uh we overstated georgia the average of
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our georgia polling was uh 4.5 and so we missed the high side there it's polls there's only so much
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you can do i would love to have more budget to pull more and then the error would have been less
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but zero bias yeah and that's the problem you know there was a poll i was reading this week
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uh i want to pull it up here a voter split over whether the media's coverage of the election was
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fair i don't understand why you'd even have to poll something like that mark there's no doubt you go out
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and you see some of these people and they're polling and i won't mention any pollster's name but a few
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weeks ago i sent you an article about a tv show that was hailing one polling organization for getting
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uh getting it all right and it turned out that was all done after the fact of many people already
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voting but as you pointed out rasmussen was polling for the last well since trump got into the race
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so you had some up polls you had some down polls but you guys had a pretty significant trend of how the
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race progressed and then a very significant trend on how it finished yeah 100 and you know i'll address
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them listen the real takeaway is that independent polling is the only place you're going to get
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accurate polling right and people have to understand when first off when people throw around most accurate
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pollster like we're kind of humble i didn't put a lot of stuff out there about our accuracy i'll just
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wait and see what real clear politics says or the american first policy institute or whatever
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not going to break my arm patting myself on the back but our business model is that we do public
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opinion work we have news articles about what people in america think we're polling right now
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there are other people who are independent who kind of swoop in do a couple polls the last week right
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before the election and then disappear again for three years and to me again i think they are picking
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their own measuring stick and usually it's like their absolute final call uh but in that one particular
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case 66 percent of their state polling was done after our final call and the yardstick they're
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measuring themselves against was november 4th after 60 percent of the country already voted their very
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first state poll set was like eight weeks after the switcheroo like you know what i mean it's like
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that's great but your numbers were just not relevant to anybody the betting market called the election on
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october 5th or 6th so it's like that again great you're accurate but like what did where were you
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where were you bro yeah you know you say most accurate pollster and it's kind of funny i live in
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new york mark and you go to every pizzeria in new york city it says voted best pizza in new york city
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yeah it's like you go to the dollar slice joint on the street corner where the thing is like not even
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edible for rats and it says number one pizza in new york it's just a total raise right
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exactly but with this mark you have a track record you have a business to uphold you have a business
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that you have to sell your polling you have to make money somehow right there is a way for us to
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tell how accurate the polling is and there is a way for us to tell um who's who's right and who's wrong
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nate silver i mean he's been a thorn in everybody's side for the last uh nine years the guy's got trump
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derangement syndrome this time he came around a little bit more but it wasn't by his own choice
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i think it was more he figured where he has to be in order to not piss off as many people as he's done
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in the past he's got a new piece out mark in the new york times and the title is polling is not the
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problem and he starts out by saying the polls just can't win the court of public opinion the very thing
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they're designed to study meanwhile this guy mark has been wrong about everything um wasn't nate
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silver at 538 when he was there was didn't he remove you guys from their polling so yeah nate uh
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this guy's just i think at this point he's entered clown territory and people could go to our twitter
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feed i have it pinned right now we made a response to his piece but just to rewind a little bit uh we
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were a real thorn in the side of the industry ourselves because nobody could affect our numbers
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and one of the things that people did when election eve traffic became a really big thing
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is that they invested in 538 because they wanted the information gatekeep and i'm pretty sure that they
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basically just created him because my understanding is when he was initially accurate i think this has
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been revealed in in court proceedings that he just was receiving numbers leaked from within the
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obama administration obama campaign so there is that but it's like okay he ran 538 i don't think
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they have a massive track record being accurate they fired him a year ago and the they replaced him
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with a real scumbag to be honest with you and this guy what's that worse than nate oh yeah well
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here's the thing is nate's not ideological i think he just has a hard time uh being objective about
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reality the same kind of thing well i like alan lich lickman probably is ideological but it's like
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it's it's you're never i don't think you're ever going to see be able to trust that guy's takes
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because i think there's just so much mental gymnastics going on uh but yeah so 538 they
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threw us out nate created his own thing turns out 538 and nate both did the exact same thing this cycle
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which is show harris up some then show trump up some then show harris up some and then
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literally end the race with well it's 50 50 we ran 80 000 monte carlos simulations and harris is
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favored to win in 0.013 more of them and we don't know oh by the way here's our electoral college map
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and it shows harris winning but don't believe that you know what i mean it was like a punt right and so
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i kind of think that all nate does he almost i almost think that he created the graft of his
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statistical model output before the election started just absolutely inscriptions you know
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what i mean absolutely and nate's the ultimate ass kisser mark i mean you know i'm not kissing
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your ass by telling you this but i think you're pretty straight to the point and you say it how
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it is and you're very blunt and very honest about it nate will go on cnn and kiss whoever's ass he
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has to kiss or to get on there but yeah he's got no track record in in this piece on the new york
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times he mentions ann selzer the lady who came out with uh which he calls the gold standard of
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polling but he also his 538 this is not his 530 anymore they also said the new york times sienna
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polling which was the best one to trust but he nails her you know as a gold standard and he mentions
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about her poll coming out three points up for kamala in iowa kamala obviously lost iowa by 13 points
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at the end of the day but how do these people now obviously she's retired since mark you can sleep
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at night knowing that ann selzer is now retired she was really giving us a run for our money
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but nate listen to this because this goes back to what you just said about these people all
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adjusting their polls just one day before the election after more than half the country has
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voted early this time around um the final times sienna national poll including third-party candidates
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had mr trump one point ahead there was plenty of data to support that trump win can you do you have
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in front of you mark that new york times uh sienna national polling that they did throughout the
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course because i remember being extremely to the left well they did a wild thing which is like right
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at the end of august they did put out i think they were really the only other major pollster that is
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act like they are accurate they do some accurate things and i'll get into how they were lying
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but they were one of the really big ones other than us that had trump winning the national popular
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vote at all back then because everybody was trying to make it look like she was in some like two month
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long post convention bounce and that's you know not what was happening here let me filter by them
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uh but like the main issue that they had is that they would put out state polls that were not favorable
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to trump but if you look in the cross tabs you could see it was just they were oversampling
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biden supporters and if you corrected for that yeah okay so they pulled five times
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and they had trump winning by one in july in early september then they had it tied then they had
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harris plus three so all of september and october their final not their final poll but the poll that
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was up there was harris plus three and then at the end they say oh tie that's what you were seeing
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across the board oh tie right sienna was no different they were putting out like a state favorable to
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trump the state favorable to harris at the same time and yet you what you saw in the news was oh
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it's too close to call oh it's too close to call but every single one of them put out a map that
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showed harris just barely eking out the electoral college so it's like at the end of the day you
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could tell what every single one of them was doing really the only people that put out electoral
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listen everybody on twitter put out a trump 312 map like it wasn't hard to see and i thought that's
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what the race was going to be even though my polling said 297 i'm like oh it's probably going
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to be 312 uh you said that exact thing on the show by the way uh i think a day or two before the
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election you said 297 and you told me on the high end 312 you said those same exact numbers everyone
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who wants to go see i don't have the time to go look but you can go back and watch the episode
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and you can see the episode we did right before the election with mark he said those two exact numbers
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297 and 312 on the high side um yeah the consensus on twitter and the consensus in the betting market
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the consensus like everybody with a brain was 312 but they might steal it that was the consensus
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the consensus in the media was oh harris is probably going to win with 287 right it's too close to call
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right that's it that's what they would say and it's because they can't bring themselves
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to challenge the status quo have a status candidate like trump come in and maybe you know upset the
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gravy train or piss off their advertisers or yeah that's the problem you know we often heard too
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big to rig mark uh throughout the campaigns and the trump people would say you don't say that don't
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say that it's not true you know it can always be rigged but i i truly think that this election was too
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big to rig and you know i don't watch fox news very often but i'll see a clip every now and then on
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twitter and i heard jessica tarlove who's got i gotta be honest i think i've met her in person many times
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i think she's got a double digit iq and she's sitting at the table with a straight face saying
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well trump may have won the popular vote but he didn't win over 50 of the popular vote so he
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wasn't overwhelmingly um elected by his peers in the united states i mean mark these people just
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deranged i yeah well there's a time magazine cover i saw today with bill clinton's mandate and he got
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43 of the vote you know what i mean it's like yeah they will say whatever they need to say to keep
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the gravy train going to keep their paymasters happy to maintain their beautifully uh lucrative talking
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head job uh on the idiot box and the problem is is that now now all their channels are dying like
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fox is doing pretty good uh newsmax is doing pretty good but man i think msnbc is on the chopping block
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now cnn is probably going to have massive layoffs yeah and the funny thing to me is they did it
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for harris and biden what a crazy thing to destroy a 20 or 30 year record of cable news tv being the
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most trusted source of like thousands of hours people watched and poured into these outlets
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and they destroyed it all for biden like what on earth well cnn was going downhill long before i i
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the day i think cnn died was the day they fired lou dobbs off of there they fired lou dobbs off of there
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because he was talking out against uh an open border uh which now we see i i often say it on
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the show anyone who's listened to lou and everyone who listens to this show like 90 mark uh follow
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lou's career his 50 plus long year career as a journalist everything he had said in the early
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2000s had come to true he had mentioned china was going to eat our lunch china did eat our lunch and
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now they're eating our dinner uh he had mentioned a wide open border is going to ruin this country
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we now see what a wide open border has done to this country he warned in 2004 mark about election
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systems uh being online and what they can do to harm an election this is long before mark 2016 and 2020
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when we find that there are some issues with election machines the man was 20 years ahead on that
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16 to 20 years ahead on that everything the man said wound up coming to true i don't know how he was
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able to do it uh down to the person mark i i talked to him about personnel and he told me that guy's a
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low life he's going to be a scumbag don't trust him and i'd say you're crazy what the hell do you
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know six months later it came out lindsey graham was one of them lou had lindsey graham to the t
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i want i want to take a quick break here uh when we come back i want to talk about you had mentioned
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these establishment folks in legacy media carl rove says trump is going to pay the price
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for his cabinet picks and the chaos it's causing um president trump also exactly president trump also
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has a pretty decent approval rating um heading into january we're going to talk about and democrats
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have spoken about who their preferred choice is for president in 2028 you guys may be surprised on
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who they're rallying on we're coming back with mark mitchell folks stay with us
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we're back we're talking to the leading pollster for rasmussen mark mitchell for all you who just
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gift to him mark i want to turn to um first president trump according to now i'm going to
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believe this poll just for the sake of uh the numbers they sound good uh harvard caps harris
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poll found that 50 percent of respondents said they approve of trump's performance compared to 40
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who say they disapprove um pretty good numbers for president trump now going into a second term
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uh it seems it can't get any worse than what biden is doing right now and this this polling was done
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in the midst of president trump picking his cabinet now there's some controversial picks that the
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march is left are having a hard time swallowing uh gates was withdrawing his nomination this week
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saying he doesn't want to be a distraction to president trump and and the transition team but you've
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got pete hegseth who they're coming out against then i'm sure if pete hegseth steps down they'll find
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a reason to go after howard lutnick uh from canter fitzgerald who paid for all the kids tuition who
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died as family members died in 9 11 these people bear no boundaries mark um let's first go with with
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president trump 54 what's your thoughts on that yeah first off no matter what trump does every single
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one of these people is going to be attacked that's literally all the cnn website is right now it's like
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every you get a sex scandal and you get a sex i like that's literally all they have left um listen
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this is wild but maybe reuters ipsos is incorrect about trump favorability maybe it's not 37 and since
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he fills stadiums across the world and he got the most votes of anyone ostensibly in history
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as i think maybe investigations will find his favorability is higher than whatever democrat is
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running and he entered office with a higher approval rating than biden did believe it or not
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and so yeah he was 49 50 going into the election he won he's going to get a bounce uh we're actually
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pulling approval right now but i did a one night preview i think we're going to have a 53 54 handle
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too and of course he's still going to have his 39 very unfavorable but if you're talking about the
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cabinet picks we actually do have a report card back for that and listen this is absolutely stunning
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and incredible because the mainstream media in my opinion doesn't drive the narrative anymore
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twitter does twitter doesn't really seem to be having a problem with these cabinet picks it's
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almost like fascination and uh relief that we're getting the people that like they want right right
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and that uh you know i think gates maybe threw a wrench in it but everybody seemed to shrug it off in a
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few hours but in general how would you rate the job that trump's doing picking people for his
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administration and this was polling this week so they knew about gates they knew about all these
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other ones 35 excellent 15 good that's 50 that's higher than anything biden ever got rated on ever
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so there's that i would love to see biden's cabinet picks by the way that the transgender um
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hhs secretary and pete buddhaj that's the freaks the bald head guy from the pentagon who was stealing
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people's luggages yeah i'm sorry no no who was it that uh you know is holding that image up like
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really smart like that's strong symbolism but you know you only got 36 saying poor when the
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mainstream media narrative is these people are the worst ever and we all know it's because they're a
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shock to the system but republicans here's a crazy one the republicans rating 61 excellent 22 good 83
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excellent or good so here's the thing it's like mitch mcconnell literally has ratings in the republican
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party as low as nancy pelosi yep john thune just got elected we have one night of preview on that his
00:23:54.300
numbers are better but not much and so my advice to establishment republicans is that your voters think
00:24:03.120
they have a mandate and they think that trump is doing an amazing job picking people and not only that
00:24:09.100
89 of republicans think that it's at least somewhat likely or very likely that the senate will confirm
00:24:15.120
his choices so they expect republicans to play ball and do the job and get these people through and yet
00:24:20.540
you know i'm sure their phones are melting right now from all the big food the big war the big intel
00:24:26.880
like all these massive corporate interests that have their hands in the senators you know that's where
00:24:34.440
we're at the issue we have and it was the reason that winning those two extra seats eric hobbie folded
00:24:40.900
like a cheap lawn chair saying you know i lost the election i'm gonna go on my very way
00:24:44.840
and and i put out a tweet this is the very embodiment of of the rhino republican party
00:24:49.600
not going down without a fight accepting it for what it is now i'm not saying go ahead and start an
00:24:54.600
insurrection over it but wait till every vote is counted make till you see if there's any irregularities
00:24:59.760
and stuff like that the same way bob casey's doing in pennsylvania which by the way you're not hearing
00:25:03.740
an issue out of that but the issue i see we have mark is you've got mitch mcconnell in the senate you've
00:25:09.180
got lisa murkowski in the senate you've got uh susan collins in the senate those are three now you have a few
00:25:14.360
rhinos who like to come in and out you've got mitch mcconnell i'm sorry you've got john curtis
00:25:20.720
uh out of utah now it's like never ending uh these people how do you how is president trump
00:25:29.220
going to be able to govern now when he's going to be held back by four eight five idiots who just want
00:25:34.460
to do what the hell they want to do yeah this is a big one listen i don't know what's going on well
00:25:40.100
i do know one thing that's going on behind the scenes right and i'll get to that but listen trump
00:25:45.940
built a really great transition team that nobody was talking about knew about trump made an election
00:25:50.400
that was too big to rig um trump like you said like massively overperformed in michigan and
00:25:57.620
pennsylvania in a way where i do think they had the power to stop the counting do you think they had the
00:26:02.020
power to you know listen like in wisconsin just bus people in from chicago register them right there
00:26:07.760
you just get all you need to do is move enough people and we all saw the trucks so he did a good
00:26:13.960
job i have to assume that there are leverage points that we don't know about and what i keep referring
00:26:19.520
back to is elon musk is spending every waking hour with donald trump elon musk is tweeting about the
00:26:25.460
hammer of justice coming trump is not going to put another jeff sessions in there and i think these
00:26:32.240
people will be held accountable so there was stuff going on in bucks county and i forget what the tweet
00:26:37.020
was but chris lasavita said they will all go to jail yeah carrie lake i don't think has conceded yet
00:26:45.260
and there are a lot of ridiculous stuff going on in arizona so what i have heard through people who i
00:26:52.540
know who people who know people who blah blah blah connections they they are talking to people about
00:26:58.200
doing an election integrity something of some sort and so donald trump came out and tweeted do not
00:27:06.300
cheat in this election you will go to jail and so that's the kind of accountability i think people
00:27:12.980
are expecting we pulled on that they want these people who are complicit in fraud to go to jail and
00:27:18.360
listen if you get a good department of uh you know attorney general in there there probably should
00:27:24.500
be some accountability in dc and if listen if they're going to obstruct the mandate of the people
00:27:28.540
maybe the solution is indict 10 democrats and five republicans like you know you know that gets you right
00:27:36.740
you just mentioned bucks county and uh we're going to break something on the show now it'll be a little
00:27:41.020
bit delayed by the time this episode comes out but um bob casey has just conceded the pennsylvania
00:27:46.120
senate race because of that recount in bucks county where dave mccormick reportedly gained votes from
00:27:52.500
the recount so now i you know i kind of like this mark the republicans maybe they had a minivan out
00:27:58.120
back with some mail-in ballots in the back and they started bringing them in themselves i know that's
00:28:03.480
not what happened the pennsylvania supreme court shot down counting illegal ballots that's what happened
00:28:08.000
and ballots that came in like after election day and no and then you got better men it's like ah what
00:28:14.800
order a few illegal ballots who cares you know what i mean it's not the sacred right of the u.s
00:28:19.880
citizen to vote what who cares you know i go to jail that's what chris that's what the co-chair
00:28:27.800
of donald trump's campaign said these people will go to jail you'd mentioned fetterman and i i gotta
00:28:33.720
admit i'm starting to like fetterman uh as a person not as a politician i think he's uh very far out
00:28:39.320
there he put out a tweet the other day it was in response to mike johnson in instituting the
00:28:43.540
transgender bathroom ban uh from that that dude from uh delaware is coming into the house
00:28:48.740
and john fetterman said there's not a job i'm afraid to lose if it requires me to degrade anyone
00:28:54.620
if that's a defining issue for a voter there will be a different candidate we have a bathroom in my
00:28:59.000
office that anyone's able to use and this was to that transgender uh congresswoman man and i replied
00:29:05.340
to the tweet just make sure he doesn't leave the seat up it's not proper etiquette for the female
00:29:09.680
staffers i love it mark without comedy in this business you'd die you know you're sort of new to
00:29:18.940
this business uh i may be younger than you but i've been in it for a long time and i have some gray hairs
00:29:24.100
in the back of my head from it because uh it is such an insane business when you look at it and you break
00:29:29.180
it down at the end of the day the amount of hatred mark that goes into this thing look at what they've
00:29:34.200
done to president trump they wanted this man's head removed i've never in my life um exhibited that
00:29:43.000
much hatred for anybody and i i've had bad things happen in my life like everyone else has i can't
00:29:48.560
think of a time where i've ever wished death upon person uh upon a person um like that and for what
00:29:55.280
mark for what what did donald trump what has donald trump done that has been so detrimental and so bad
00:30:01.220
to people i can't think of a damn thing he's done that has really pissed somebody off i mean he's just
00:30:08.800
a regular guy at the end of the day yeah the level is so hate hate is so high and it really has
00:30:17.060
corrupt bill o'reilly had a really good segment today where he's talking about what he thinks is
00:30:20.980
going to happen to msnbc i saw that yeah and they need to distance themselves from mbc or the other way
00:30:26.200
around and what he says ultimately comes down to the problem with msnbc isn't liberal bias it's just
00:30:32.600
sheer seething hate and i'll add on top of that it's insane sheer seething hate because they'll just
00:30:39.580
drop it at the the on a dime if they think that it's in their best interest to reverse course as
00:30:46.120
everybody is coming to see with what happened with morning joe and mika brzezinski i think ultimately
00:30:51.820
what it comes down to to me is the de-religionization of the united states and that
00:30:57.540
listen you know it was founded as a nation on a separation of uh church and state freedom of
00:31:05.080
religion a lot of this stuff wasn't written into our legal documents but it was the context in which
00:31:11.600
the nation was founded the really good interesting tim cast show last night on basically this concept and
00:31:17.720
how basically softly the founders were outsourcing morality to christianity and now without it a lot
00:31:26.040
of less people practice the problem is is that you lose that whole concept of loving your enemies
00:31:32.780
and so you know people are always going to be enemies when their interests aren't aligned i think
00:31:38.680
there's a lot of people who are really radicalized right now probably because they're complicit in some
00:31:43.400
illegal things of course or the gravy train might might stop i think that's what we're seeing right
00:31:49.080
now and what's so dark to me is that they'll willingly brainwash and drive insane a large chunk of the
00:31:56.400
population in order so the whole idea of integrity of values is totally gone i don't think our country can
00:32:04.380
survive in its current state because i would pose this question right if we have no religious values
00:32:11.060
why should any elected official go to dc and look out for anybody's interest except their own yeah
00:32:19.160
you're absolutely what's what's the answer well i mean like i can't think of one oh they're afraid
00:32:26.380
they're going to get voted out well i don't think anybody's afraid of getting voted out down there
00:32:30.660
uh oh but if you leave and you get a better job somewhere else yeah yeah right that's right you get
00:32:36.340
on their board of raytheon or something yeah you get on the board of fox news yeah well yeah there
00:32:40.340
you go right yeah they're certainly not afraid of going to jail no man one of them has right
00:32:48.160
though that's the thing you know everyone wants to talk about this matt gates thing and the integrity
00:32:52.080
of what matt gates did as a private citizen or before he got no office or whatever okay it is what
00:32:58.240
it is i don't know if he did it or he didn't you know the allegations or sort of seem like they've
00:33:03.160
coming out at a weird time right if especially what happened years ago like five years ago now
00:33:07.560
you wait for it okay sort of seems weird i don't know what matt gates did in his private life i hope
00:33:12.640
he didn't do the things that they say he did and he says he didn't so he denies that that happened but
00:33:17.000
now they come out but if you go look mark you want to talk about prostitution why don't we go look at
00:33:22.280
every single member of congress who's in dc who cheats on their wife why don't we go look at
00:33:26.720
every single member of congress uh madison caldorne came out and said that these guys are having
00:33:31.640
these orgies with drugs and and and man loses his seat go figure that the guy loses his seat like
00:33:37.780
the next month uh with president trump's backing him loses his seat after coming out saying that
00:33:43.800
they're having these like i said uh you know drug infused parties at prostitutes so okay that's fine
00:33:50.700
if you want to go after matt gatesworth that's fine let's go after everybody else how about we talk
00:33:55.080
about fang fang swalwell eric swalwell who was sleeping with the chinese spy why don't we talk about
00:34:00.020
that and what he told her while he was sleeping with her uh mark why don't we talk about that why
00:34:04.600
don't we go down the list i don't care mark if we go down the list and we get rid of every single
00:34:09.100
damn one of them there because they're all good for nothing at the end of the day anyway
00:34:13.000
like what i think about this is that where is the soul of the conservative movement right now
00:34:23.380
in 2016 what i would have said is well maybe it's a bunch of people on a subreddit on reddit i don't
00:34:30.040
know like maybe there wasn't one i don't really know in 2020 it was probably on like true social
00:34:36.080
or parlor or getter and watching steve bannon right the soul of the conservative movement right now is
00:34:41.860
mainstream on twitter right and what i can say is that in my impression the discussions i see about this
00:34:48.380
is that people are much more likely to believe matt gates and the fact that he focused on the way that
00:34:55.760
these people enrich themselves than they are about believing any accusations because this is the on a
00:35:02.100
long list of dozens of people have been accused by stuff now i'm not saying your average normie who
00:35:06.400
reads axios is going to believe that yeah but what i am saying is like if you're a republican in senate
00:35:12.140
what has changed in the last six months and very clearly three weeks ago is that you're not going
00:35:18.520
to be able to just go on hannity and get your narrative out there it will be rejected and so
00:35:24.940
i don't know how that's going to play out at all but like what i what i do think is that twitter right
00:35:30.980
now is massively invested in every everybody trump picks getting through and so they're gonna f around
00:35:37.360
and probably find out for everyone who wants to know what mark's talking about there's a nice chart
00:35:43.700
at the f around to find out ratio you can find it somewhere on youtube it's absolutely brilliant
00:35:48.220
and that's absolutely right but mark it's the same reason that my show the show you do the podcast you
00:35:54.040
do for rasmussen is getting higher audiences than msnbc and cnn in some ratings demographics it's sad mark i run
00:36:01.660
a we run it around here a very low budget very easy small staff uh of people that i like to work
00:36:08.100
with very very small staff and we get this thing out there we get this thing out every single day
00:36:13.080
uh five days a week seven days a week on the weekends we run some reruns uh midday updates out
00:36:18.120
every single day and we do it very very low budget um and you've got these multi-million dollar
00:36:23.780
organizations that literally cannot pull an audience you had mentioned the core of the conservative
00:36:28.940
right now i'll tell you what the issue is carl rove is one of them he's got a wall street journal
00:36:34.260
piece out this week trump sends clowns to the cabinet confirmation circus he has mismaneled his
00:36:39.120
not misman handled his nominations not only by picking gates hegseth and gabbard now who the hell
00:36:45.280
is carl rove the problem is is you've got fox news and the voters and the people the audience mark
00:36:50.840
they absolutely reject it and i'll tell you why because when i have a guest on this show mark
00:36:54.860
that people don't like i see the deviation of the number i look at the ratings
00:36:58.140
every single day and i look at them very well and i look at minute by minute and if i see if
00:37:02.920
there's a deviation i said something wrong i go back and i look and see what i said that pissed
00:37:06.660
people off sometimes it's my cursing i'm sorry i can't control that sometimes it's me stepping on
00:37:11.500
the guest i'm sorry i try to control that but fox news has got to see that the trey gaudis that
00:37:17.100
they're having on the carl roves that they're having on is an is not what the audience wants to hear
00:37:23.160
it's a rejection and these folks mark have been rejected time and time again how many more times
00:37:28.840
does carl rove brit hume um the rest of them trey gaudi have to be rejected before
00:37:34.640
fox says okay enough is enough we're done with this this is not the republican party anymore
00:37:39.680
i don't know how fox changes or if it will or if it needs to or if it can
00:37:45.000
but when i look at carl rove i just pulled up his last 20 years of google searches
00:37:51.820
and the man has never been less relevant and so right now uh when he goes on the air i can only
00:37:59.200
assume that he's just saying whatever he needs to say to maintain relevance and what he's creating is
00:38:04.460
a false narrative based on my polling numbers i just asked america and america especially republicans
00:38:09.520
does not believe that donald trump is mishandling his appointments at all so in my opinion maybe he
00:38:16.580
doesn't isn't aware of the of this and of public opinion it's a false narrative of course because
00:38:22.240
trump's going to pick people some people are going to get through some people aren't so he is shopping
00:38:26.940
around stuff to make himself relevant i think that's what they all do and i don't know if it's something
00:38:33.260
that has to change within the producers i think fox news is probably telling you oh our ratings have
00:38:37.500
never been better maybe that's true at some point though independent media is going to eat their
00:38:42.300
lunch and you talked about ratings like listen i i like i'm one just one source in youtube and i i have
00:38:49.320
a 1200 stack here i do my own thumbnails i edit it it's free i got like 9 million views in august
00:38:57.380
september and october like 9 million views and that's not counting anything of mine that got clipped
00:39:02.640
uh i i think like i had an alex jones piece that like the entire world saw where i called for an
00:39:09.520
election integrity commission so bro's not saying that stuff fox news isn't saying that stuff and
00:39:16.340
we're in an era of pull not push media and they're pulling for what is trump is doing they're pulling for
00:39:24.040
accountability and yeah i mean like maybe they'll hash out a great existence but i i don't know what's
00:39:31.880
gonna happen when rfk gets in there and cuts out all their pharmaceutical advertisement and i you
00:39:38.260
know they might have to change or maybe it will free them up to talk about stuff i don't know yeah
00:39:42.480
they're definitely gonna have a tough time i want to take one more quick break here folks we're talking
00:39:45.880
with mark mitchell great american great pollster uh mark i'd said before last break we were going to get
00:39:51.260
to it we we ran out of time in this segment but we'll talk about the next the democrats overwhelmingly
00:39:55.740
are picking their next candidate for 2028 we're going to come back and tell you exactly who that is on
00:40:01.400
the other side i also want to take up the 2030 census that's coming and what it means for those
00:40:05.600
deep blue states who kick their voters out of there during covid lockdowns the ones who went to florida
00:40:11.100
the ones who went to texas and the other thing i want to take up mark is something we missed in the
00:40:15.540
first segment and that's just how far right this country has moved this election uh you go on the
00:40:21.960
new york times new york times uh election results website's the best i think in the business that you
00:40:27.040
can go to you go to their damn website mark it's red arrows everywhere everywhere uh for just how
00:40:32.940
far right certain blue states and red states have moved so i want to say a few key places a few key
00:40:39.680
places and we're going to talk about those blue haired freaks when we return i'm sure you're not
00:40:43.620
going to be surprised on where they're domiciling but we'll come right back with mark mitchell stay with
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pollsters in the world in the nation at least uh mark i i this wasn't a poll by you um because i don't
00:42:05.420
think you would have put it out if you pulled something like this so ridiculous but the democrats
00:42:09.760
have a preferred choice for 2028 um on who they want to run for the white house the poll found
00:42:17.040
that 41 percent of likely democrat voters would vote for kamala harris as the top of the ticket
00:42:26.760
california governor gavin newston placed second a very distant second eight uh pennsylvania's midget
00:42:32.580
governor josh shapiro uh at seven how is this even possible that uh not even two weeks after her
00:42:40.800
getting absolutely molly wop uh getting cracked over the head in this election um trump's now two and
00:42:47.500
all against the democrat women that they put up against them by the way um that's not a slight at
00:42:52.100
women um but just the democrats choice of women that they put up but um they 40 percent want
00:43:00.580
kamala harris to run in 2028 do these people like losing ah well i guess i don't know but i actually
00:43:09.120
can confirm with our own results that validate these findings believe it or not oh my god and yet what i
00:43:15.320
will say is i'm not surprised because i've talked about it a lot basically they have a crisis of
00:43:21.120
leadership uh they're really in a situation where it's so patriarchal in their party it's all about
00:43:27.440
power there's it's it's almost like a criminal organization at which sits upon the top a mob boss
00:43:33.520
and why would that person ever plan for their succession it's all just infighting and then
00:43:39.300
somebody's going to get the nod and whatever and i think that this is actually hilarious and should
00:43:44.020
probably be spread all over the the socials because what in my opinion it also does is like
00:43:49.600
really give anybody who's going to back gavin newsom a second thought and i also do think it
00:43:54.400
confirms all um all the people are trying to throw kamala harris under the bus again i don't think
00:43:58.580
she was the best candidate but she did come really close and again trump won a lot trump got a mandate
00:44:04.620
but she did kind of about like pretty good considering the all right you're a number mark where did she
00:44:10.760
come close please well again let's talk about milwaukee and detroit but i'm just saying like
00:44:18.140
trump should have won bigger especially considering the absolute absolute uh state of the fundamentals
00:44:26.020
of the polling how bad everybody's hurting all the safety the border invasion blah blah blah blah
00:44:30.420
and yet for her to still get 40 of democrats it's kind of a signal they don't blame her that much
00:44:35.420
but we said which current leader is better for the democrat party now this was less about the
00:44:41.120
candidates but just like hey who's going to take the ball and run with leadership and it's joe biden
00:44:47.000
kamala harris chuck schumer or hakeem jeffries and among democrats they gave kamala harris a majority
00:44:54.380
54 so it's like joe biden's dead practically almost right and then you have schumer five percent
00:45:03.020
hakeem jeffries eleven percent yeah those people are non-entities and kamala harris i mean what she's
00:45:10.560
not going to be out doing press conferences and publicity stunts she's on the beach drinking vodka
00:45:15.940
so there is no leader right now which is why i think everything's in total disarray i don't even
00:45:21.920
know if msnbc is getting their morning talking points like who's going to send them yeah that's
00:45:27.080
true those idiots might have to read for themselves but the problem is they're going to read and they're
00:45:30.520
going to be very upset because eventually everyone's going to have to start printing the truth i i mean
00:45:34.940
you know i'd argue and equip with you a little bit about trump winning he got two and a half million
00:45:38.540
more votes than he got in 2020 and the reason it wasn't more was because of people like whoopi
00:45:44.720
goldberg and those folks on the view joy behart those are the 40 of democrats who voted for kamala
00:45:51.880
harris they weren't voting for kamala harris they were voting against trump there's a group of people
00:45:56.280
mark that just can't seem to get their head around trump was the president he's now the president
00:46:00.500
again i think that's where you get your numbers but we were talking about in the break and now i do
00:46:05.060
want to go into it because you pissed me off um outperformed mark in every almost 100 every
00:46:13.580
traffic so let's go this should have been a reagan era landslide i agree with you 100 all the all of
00:46:19.460
the fundamentals said that okay the reason it wasn't is there's a problem on the right and that is
00:46:25.020
the establishment fights him in every way there is no accountability they have not cracked down on
00:46:30.360
election integrity issues like they should have there was no unity they weren't supporting him
00:46:34.900
down ballot across the board like they should have been that was one major reason he did not get a
00:46:39.740
lot of money there was so that's like problem one um problem you know on their side like here's the
00:46:46.540
thing it's there are a massive group of people that will vote for the person that they were told to vote
00:46:53.000
for the empty vessel and she was that perfect empty empty vessel almost right yep the problem they have is
00:47:00.740
is that joe biden's administration got rid of five or ten million of those people right and turned
00:47:07.460
them into independence turned them into flip voters so she did her role for the democrats but it's like
00:47:13.160
on the tail end of there was no scenario in which she could have acknowledged the problems at the border
00:47:18.240
where she could talk about bidenomics being a failure it would have been a civil war within the
00:47:22.720
democrat party right so again she stunk as a candidate but like what do you expect her to do
00:47:27.760
she just tried to be the democrat ham sandwich that she needed to be and there just weren't enough
00:47:34.320
democrat voters in my opinion i don't think trump could have done anything different uh and would
00:47:39.680
have gotten more votes i think that you know that's what it was now yeah i do want to go into some of
00:47:44.360
these numbers because yeah i'm not not claiming trump you're 100 right yeah no but you you did hit the
00:47:49.960
nail on the head mitch mcconnell that oh man i'm gonna refrain because people don't like when i curse but
00:47:54.800
um he was dumping millions of dollars into larry hogan's race now if he would have went up to
00:48:00.460
wisconsin and dumped it in a hovey's race or the fella uh um sam the name slipped my head in in
00:48:06.900
nevada um he could have dumped it into the wisconsin race he could have dumped it into the minnesota race
00:48:12.100
he could have dumped it into the michigan race all tight tight races yet this numbskull mitch mcconnell
00:48:18.480
goes out to maryland and starts dumping millions of dollars into larry hogan who like kamala harris got
00:48:24.360
molly whopped i mean there's no other way to put it the guy got absolutely annihilated but i want to
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look at these numbers here that we got um not necessarily numbers but more so trends if you go
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on the new york times interactive 2024 um map they have a shift from 2020 folks i encourage you all to
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go look at this because it's absolutely amazing mark and i were going through it in the commercial break
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you look at california you can't find one blue arrow shift to the left uh unbelievable you go to new
00:48:52.820
york you got two or three out of uh uh the 34 or something so uh congressional districts you go to
00:48:59.960
new jersey you can't find a blue arrow because it's just massive red arrow after red arrow after red arrow
00:49:05.840
but mark we did find a few areas where there was uh some decently moderate blue where were those areas
00:49:13.460
mark the entire country moved massively right across the board every democrat state look at the border in
00:49:20.920
texas dear lord there are all the hispanics that went massively but what's kind of weird is that the
00:49:26.060
places where they needed them to not move right they didn't move right and you can look at northwest
00:49:31.840
georgia and atlanta move left that's kind of weird when you have that up mark that we could put on the
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screen for the audience yeah yeah yeah you want to pull that up just so they can follow along with us
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for everyone who's watching on video if you guys are watching uh listening on audio i apologize but you
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guys got to start joining us on rumble and uh and youtube here we go we got this this map up here
00:49:51.280
look at florida look at texas very little in texas move left it's like okay whatever
00:49:58.080
kauffman county has moved a little bit left look at this area of georgia here
00:50:02.160
that's you know the population center around atlanta the suburbs look at western north carolina
00:50:09.480
look at western pennsylvania even philadelphia moved right but it's like pittsburgh you know these areas did
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not lower michigan the areas of wisconsin around milwaukee and madison and it's like those are the
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areas everybody was watching on election night because they decided the race this is where it
00:50:28.480
all hinged and you could say oh well democrats had a billion dollars oh well democrats had a really good
00:50:35.180
ground game actually i don't think they did have a very good ground game but ultimately you know what
00:50:39.600
needs to be answered for is like why are they still counting why were they counting illegal ballots why
00:50:44.120
were trucks showing up at 2 a.m why are there pictures of tabulation centers in wisconsin where
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they were dragging their feet all day so that they could dump ballots at 2 a.m i think that these are
00:50:55.000
questions that are finally going to be answered because accountability is coming and the only message
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i can give to these people who this should have been a massive landslide the only question question i
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have for these people is like listen if you're involved in this it's probably best if you flip first
00:51:11.420
right now mark if you want to justify saying exactly what you said if you click on the margin
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by county there uh it'll show the audience uh oh wow where the massive votes came from so if you go
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up to uh go scroll up there in wisconsin or south wisconsin go to cook county or if you go over to
00:51:30.560
michigan you go look at wayne county let me zoom in yeah but there you go that's the massive majorities
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of where now i think there's no doubt in my mind they tried to cheat in this election they probably
00:51:41.200
successfully did so but i think the margin of cheating just couldn't uh sustain the too big to
00:51:48.880
rig the the early voting numbers mark that we saw come in were just unbelievable yeah there were not
00:51:55.460
enough democrats in wisconsin there were not enough democrats in detroit that's ultimately what it came down
00:52:00.160
to they needed to sweep all three yep if they had picked up north carolina which did come close
00:52:04.640
they were definitely waiting on election night to call georgia and north carolina yep and uh they
00:52:11.680
just couldn't get it done too big to rig yeah you know it's like i said it's unbelievable the things
00:52:16.580
that they're able to do the other thing we were talking about there in the commercial break was the
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census uh and what's going to happen in 2030 now we discussed before the show the one that came out in
00:52:26.900
2020 which was probably a little uh skewed and crooked and in favor of the democrats but um this is from
00:52:33.980
the american redistricting project and they put out their 2030 um forecast on who's going to gain and
00:52:41.140
who's going to lose and this is bad news for the democrats mark new york under their current estimates
00:52:45.960
and now these are all numbers post people leaving those deep blue states uh for coven new york looks
00:52:51.580
like it's going to lose three seats pennsylvania one um uh it looks like minnesota will lose a seat
00:52:58.860
california will lose four seats um big states big blue uh red states texas looks like they're going
00:53:06.300
to pick up four florida will pick up three georgia one north carolina one tennessee one um so when you
00:53:13.600
look at this i mean the level of optimism now folks when these numbers i say they're going to pick up
00:53:18.680
they're also going to lose congressional seats so that'll be congressional seats that these deep red
00:53:23.420
states now if you listen to the democrats they'll tell you they're going to win texas uh i think
00:53:27.620
there's some pollsters mark who put texas inside the margin of uh era for the democrats in this
00:53:33.280
election is am i incorrect on that uh i think so there was definitely the narrative that texas and
00:53:38.880
florida will were in play and that's how crazy these people are huffing their own farts because listen
00:53:43.840
i looked at uh i looked at ann seltzer i watched her on two way and i you know whatever i don't think
00:53:50.580
she took a check i think they had a poll earlier in the fall that showed that harris was only down
00:53:56.180
a few points i really do think that they convinced themselves that the fake harris bounce was playing
00:54:03.200
out even bigger in their own state and of course it absolutely wasn't but that's how like that's how
00:54:10.160
much objectivity has been thrown away by everybody in this industry but like you talk about the 2030
00:54:15.100
census and what to me that says i'm trying to find texas and real-life politics while i talk
00:54:19.880
to me what that tells me is that the democrats are going to be even more desperate because that
00:54:25.880
sounds like an existential problem for them here's the problem i see is that since 2020 the entire
00:54:32.780
country moved over six points to the right but in that time republicans only picked up one percent
00:54:38.760
more representation in congress that is messed up and it's not all about redistricting it's not all
00:54:45.960
about the census it is about ballot harvesting it is about asymmetry and the amount of money that's
00:54:51.980
spent yep um but it's also in some ways about how hard it is to challenge incumbents how uh not
00:54:59.860
ubiquitously the republican party's addressing the maga platform which has been proven to be the big tent
00:55:05.220
that's a real problem uh and then you know like the census itself uh i don't know like they have
00:55:12.500
there has to be another election between now and then now what i would advise and what's a really good
00:55:17.860
article people should look up normally i don't recommend an article i haven't read yet i haven't
00:55:21.860
had a chance but i trust him seth keschel put out on his sub stack an article about a few days ago the u.s
00:55:28.580
census bureau stole at least 16 electoral votes and 15 u.s house seats talking about the 2020 election
00:55:36.420
or the 2020 census how it was not above board and how it overstated a democrat representation
00:55:42.660
i think they should attempt to fix this in some way if there can be i know there was a lot of talk
00:55:49.920
with trump census bureau pick unfortunately the guy got pushed out about going in and counting how many
00:55:55.700
of these people actually are illegal aliens and i think the answer is probably enough that if you
00:56:01.360
fix that problem then you don't have to wait for 2030 but i guess we'll have to see they should call
00:56:06.800
a recount of the census don't know if it's possible i know people are talking about it god don't even
00:56:12.220
mention something like that the fbi will show up at your house say you're trying to overthrow us
00:56:17.340
overthrow the census bureau did i tell you i've been swatted three times already no they found where you
00:56:22.380
lived uh we got hacked and i got swatted three times no i'm not there's a certain way they do it
00:56:27.920
and i'm not going to tell you how they do but i guess my point is is that that shows you that we're
00:56:31.860
probably already hated and on lists and uh you know they've uh pretty much weaponized everything
00:56:37.560
they can against us nate silver 538 all the mainstream media you know they're even bringing
00:56:42.820
the aapor after us i think for anyone who doesn't know what swatting is it's when they uh these
00:56:48.540
marksless lefts or deranged people will call in a fake police threat they'll call up and say mark's
00:56:53.260
beating his wife i'm not saying that's what they did but that's what they'll do and the cops will
00:56:56.780
show up outside the door ready to ram the thing in and take poor old mark mitchell out of there by his
00:57:02.020
by his neck um unbelievable no these people are absolutely sick in the head it really is speaking
00:57:08.640
of sick in the head morning consult had texted oh this is senate cruise plus plus three where the
00:57:13.880
i think he won by like 10 11 yeah morning consult trump plus seven in texas okay it was a it was
00:57:22.800
plus 14 so he missed by like a little bit by like a factor of two i mean mark i we're running out of
00:57:30.820
time here and i could talk to you for another hour and a half it's always a fascinating conversation but
00:57:35.120
now that we we broadcast the show on patriot tv they only give us an hour so it's no fun but we'll we'll
00:57:41.260
have you back here soon when i get back from vacation and uh we'll continue this conversation
00:57:45.420
but until then uh you know stop doing all those illegal things and the cops won't show up at your
00:57:50.140
house yeah right uh tell me about it mark thanks so much for joining us again today brother i'll see
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you soon yeah great being back thanks thanks everybody for being with us here today on the
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