The Great America Show - May 15, 2023


THE BIDEN REGIME IS KILLING AMERICANS


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Former Director of ICE Tom Holman joins us from the border in El Paso, Texas to talk about the impact of the Biden administration handing over control of the border with Mexico to the drug cartels and the resulting surge in illegal immigration.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:06.100 I'm Lou Dobbs, and we're pleased to have you with us.
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00:00:50.980 And now a story that the national corporatist media isn't reporting.
00:00:54.600 The big story that the Marxist Dems who control the compromised, impaired puppet president and the Democrat Party won't admit. 0.51
00:01:03.080 The story is the Biden regime's transfer of complete authority over the U.S. border with Mexico to the drug cartels.
00:01:11.120 There is nothing and no one stopping the flow of the illegals. 1.00
00:01:15.720 The deadly drugs, the sex trafficking, and the cartels are making billions of dollars more
00:01:20.840 because of the Biden regime's alignment with the cartels and China.
00:01:26.460 Meanwhile, a federal judge has ordered the Biden regime to at least assign court dates
00:01:31.680 for each illegal immigrant that they're releasing into the United States.
00:01:35.860 But the sheer numbers may now make that order impossible to follow.
00:01:41.300 An appellate court will decide this week.
00:01:44.120 Meanwhile, the effect of the Biden policies means there's no longer a border for those agents to patrol.
00:01:50.360 They can only wave in more illegal immigrants as they flood into the country. 1.00
00:01:55.220 Joining us today is a man who led the enforcement of our immigration laws,
00:01:59.400 who served as the Director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Tom Holman.
00:02:04.280 Now with the Heritage Foundation.
00:02:06.880 Tom, welcome back and thanks for being with us.
00:02:09.700 Coming to us from the border today in El Paso, Texas.
00:02:13.280 Tom, tell us what it looks like to you down there.
00:02:16.100 I'm down in El Paso right now.
00:02:17.780 I wanted to come see with my own eyes what's happening.
00:02:20.440 And I'm personally insulted.
00:02:23.020 I'm angry.
00:02:24.480 I wake up every day pissed off a little because people need to understand.
00:02:29.600 Under President Trump, we had the most secure border in my lifetime.
00:02:32.480 I've done this since I started in border until 1984.
00:02:35.800 I've been on the ground on border issues for almost 35 years.
00:02:39.960 And every president I've worked for, starting with Ronald Reagan, took some steps to secure the border.
00:02:46.940 Even President Obama and Clinton did some things to secure the border, not as much as President Trump.
00:02:52.260 No one did more than Trump.
00:02:53.160 But they understood you can't have national security without border security.
00:02:56.080 But President Biden is the first president in history of this nation who came into office and unsecured a border.
00:03:04.120 I mean, who the hell does that?
00:03:05.820 And this is what happened.
00:03:06.900 We went from the most secure border in my lifetime to historic, never seen before illegal immigration on the southern border.
00:03:14.240 It's incredible.
00:03:16.460 Just the video that we're seeing already, we understand it's going to get worse.
00:03:22.040 I have a question, though, about Title 42, the health law that allowed the Border Patrol to push back those who would claim refugee status and cross the border.
00:03:34.840 There was never a welcome wagon quite like the one that Biden's constructed right now.
00:03:39.560 But how much difference will there be with Title 42?
00:03:45.320 Well, look, it's not going to be 20,000 a day, because if you look at what exactly Biden has actually did, what he's done, they've released more people in the United States than returned under Title 42.
00:03:59.080 However, the numbers will increase.
00:04:00.900 And here's the problem.
00:04:02.280 The Border Patrol is already overwhelmed.
00:04:04.960 An average of 70% of the agents, 70%, 7 out of 10 agents.
00:04:10.080 Have been pulled off patrol to process.
00:04:14.860 Some sectors is as high as 90%.
00:04:17.320 And so any increase in the numbers coming across the border, the end Title 42 is going to result in one thing.
00:04:25.480 More border patrol agents being pulled off the line to process.
00:04:29.540 Because this administration is all about how quickly we process and release.
00:04:33.540 Because they're more concerned with the optics than anything.
00:04:36.780 They're not trying to slow the flow.
00:04:38.320 They just don't want overcrowding where the cameras capture it.
00:04:41.700 And then the secretary has a hard time saying the border is secure.
00:04:44.820 So when they end Title 42 tonight, there will be an increase in numbers.
00:04:49.940 And any increase in numbers, pour more agents off the line.
00:04:52.540 What does that mean?
00:04:53.640 It means more gotaways.
00:04:54.840 What does that mean?
00:04:55.640 It means more fentanyl.
00:04:56.920 It means more trafficking on women and children. 0.89
00:04:59.300 It means more sex trafficking.
00:05:01.300 And it means more migrant deaths. 0.88
00:05:03.040 It means more U.S. citizens die for fentanyl.
00:05:05.900 This is not just an immigration issue anymore.
00:05:09.740 It's a public safety issue.
00:05:11.200 It's a public health issue.
00:05:12.900 And for God's sakes, I think this is the biggest national security failure this country has seen since 9-11.
00:05:18.760 Well, that's extraordinary.
00:05:22.080 And to think that we have a Department of Homeland Security secretary who is saying to everyone, I don't know how many are listening, but he's saying it to everyone, that this border is secure.
00:05:35.740 And surely he sees at least some of the video that every network, every news outlet has, at least those who deign to cover it, of what's happening at that border.
00:05:49.120 How in the world can the man with a straight face say that border is secure?
00:05:53.660 Because he has no integrity.
00:05:55.620 He has no integrity.
00:05:56.840 I mean, obviously, he lied under oath in front of Congress, which is a crime.
00:06:00.360 He needs to be in peace.
00:06:01.420 I've been calling for his impeachment for two years.
00:06:03.380 And what's most shameful is the men and women who are in that green uniform who are busting their butts every day, 24-7.
00:06:10.880 And these processing facilities have to look up at the TV screen and see their boss saying there's not a problem.
00:06:17.220 There's no crisis here.
00:06:18.900 And he has the same numbers I have.
00:06:21.700 How do you say there's not a crisis when you've got 1.7 million known gotaways captured on video or drone traffic or sensor traffic?
00:06:30.440 1.7 million people have crossed the border since he's been secretary.
00:06:35.380 We don't know who they are, where they're from, where they're going.
00:06:38.880 But I'll say this.
00:06:40.220 And he knows this.
00:06:41.000 He's Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:06:42.900 Border Patrol has arrested people from 171 different countries.
00:06:46.420 Some of these countries are sponsors of terrorism.
00:06:49.180 Border Patrol's arrest is just short of 200 people on the terrorist watch list.
00:06:52.600 So how many of the 1.8, if you don't think a single one of that 1.8 didn't come here to do us harm it, came from a country sponsored terror, then you're an idiot to the data.
00:07:03.120 He has that data.
00:07:04.480 And I've been asked, comments made by other shows say, well, Tom, you know, he's just doing what the president wants him to, right?
00:07:10.340 You've got to really place the blame on the president.
00:07:11.980 I said, no.
00:07:13.360 Secretary took an oath.
00:07:14.560 He took an oath to defend the Constitution and defend the United States.
00:07:17.560 And he has the same data I have as the Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:07:21.880 If the man had any integrity, he'd tell the White House, look, I'm the Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:07:26.620 This is a huge national security crisis with no inspector terrorists coming across this border.
00:07:30.420 I can no longer support your open agenda.
00:07:32.820 So either you take some steps to secure this border, I'm going to resign.
00:07:37.460 A better man would do that.
00:07:39.940 A better man and a man with the interest of the United States at heart would do that.
00:07:46.180 I think that now Mayorkas has made it pretty clear that he has a different interest.
00:07:52.180 He was talking about illegal immigrants coming to this country as having, in his mind, a higher priority than the American citizens who are watching their wages now. 0.67
00:08:04.120 They're going to be competing for labor, for their jobs, for their pay, as a result of these millions of illegal immigrants that he has invited in and distributed all across the country. 0.99
00:08:18.400 Could you have ever, in your most wild imaginings, thought that we would ever have a government that would be doing this to the American people?
00:08:27.760 No. No. I knew this administration moved to the left, but I never, ever would envision something like this, because this is borderline treasonous.
00:08:38.520 I mean, look, our schools are overcrowded. Trauma centers are shutting down.
00:08:42.500 Just last week, the hospital in Yuma were not taking any more maternity beds.
00:08:48.740 So, you know, taxpaying U.S. citizens couldn't have a baby at this hospital, because it's full of illegal aliens having babies, which will be U.S. citizens. 0.99
00:08:56.000 So they had to travel an hour, two hours away to have a baby.
00:08:59.660 There's trauma centers shutting down. Schools being overcrowded.
00:09:02.320 Social services are broke.
00:09:05.420 I mean, the Catholic social services, I talked to one guy here yesterday in El Paso, the Catholic charities, he went there to get some help.
00:09:12.500 They wouldn't let them in, because they're making so much money from the U.S. government taking care of illegal aliens, they're not about to take care of a United States citizen. 0.97
00:09:22.240 And I heard this downtown El Paso from a guy.
00:09:25.640 And it's just, it's infuriating.
00:09:28.080 And what people need to understand, don't fall for this where they're asylum seekers, they have a right to claim asylum, they have a right to see a judge.
00:09:35.980 You know they're right.
00:09:37.380 They do have a right to claim asylum.
00:09:38.780 Here's what people need to know. Based on immigration court data outcomes of the last 10 years, immigration court, 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum at our border never get relief from U.S. courts, because they either don't show up or they don't qualify.
00:09:53.340 Now, people think, well, if they don't qualify, the secretary says they will be sat home.
00:09:57.620 Wrong.
00:09:58.320 If you look at the Homeland Security LifeSec report, which is the secretary's own report, if you're in ICE detention, you get order removal, which 9 out of 10 will.
00:10:08.120 You are removed 99% of the time.
00:10:11.180 However, if you're not in detention and you're released, like this administration is doing, and you get order removal, you leave 6% of the time.
00:10:19.720 6% of the time.
00:10:22.040 So there's no, you know, people demand due process.
00:10:24.580 Due process doesn't mean squat if the final decision of the courts isn't upheld.
00:10:29.240 So people need to understand, these people are going nowhere.
00:10:31.840 They're here to stay.
00:10:32.920 They're going to wait around for the next giveaway, the next amnesty.
00:10:35.760 And this is administration's plan.
00:10:37.200 Again, that's why not detaining them.
00:10:38.820 They're releasing all these people.
00:10:40.380 And right now, there are thousands of empty ICE beds, ICE facilities, empty, that taxpayers already paid for these beds.
00:10:48.560 They're sitting empty, already paid for, why they release people, because they know 90% will fail.
00:10:54.780 They know if they're not detained, they won't leave.
00:10:57.580 This is their plan.
00:10:58.860 And this is incompetence.
00:11:00.980 This isn't mismanagement.
00:11:02.260 This is by design, which I say, which makes it almost treasonous, in my opinion.
00:11:07.180 We're listening to Tom Holman.
00:11:09.200 And Tom is the former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:11:13.640 He's on the border in El Paso as we watch this catastrophe unfold at the border.
00:11:20.420 2,000 miles of southern border.
00:11:23.280 We'll be right back.
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00:12:46.980 We're back with Tom Homan, the former director of ICE, and we appreciate, Tom, you being with us.
00:12:56.920 This is a strange moment.
00:13:00.280 Much of the national left-wing media, and by that I mean the New York Times, the Washington Post, ABC News, MSNBC, CNN,
00:13:09.380 they're not covering this.
00:13:11.220 They're not putting their cameras down there.
00:13:14.060 This is a fait accompli as far as they're concerned, and the story is over.
00:13:19.660 These people are going to come across en masse, wave after wave after wave,
00:13:24.760 and they're going to fundamentally transform America, aren't they?
00:13:29.540 Yeah, I mean, I get asked all the time, you know, why are they doing this?
00:13:33.640 I mean, because I've argued all the time, there's no downside on a secure border.
00:13:37.360 There's no downside on less migrant deaths, U.S. citizen deaths, no downside on less drugs coming in,
00:13:42.700 no downside on cartels making less money, no downside on less trafficking on women and children.
00:13:49.500 There's no downside on a secure border, so why the hell are they doing this?
00:13:52.320 People say, well, they think they counted these people to be future Democratic voters.
00:13:56.420 What people need to understand, maybe, but we don't have to get that far.
00:14:03.200 Because when Biden signed 90 executive orders, pretty much abolishing everything we did on the Trump administration,
00:14:10.500 he also overturned the Trump census rule.
00:14:12.860 So millions of more people will be counted in the next census in all these sanctuary cities across the country.
00:14:17.520 Millions of more people will be counted.
00:14:18.980 So when they proportionate the seats in the House, it's going to result in more House seats with the Democrats.
00:14:23.820 They sold this country out, in my opinion, where they see a future political benefit.
00:14:29.580 And don't buy this, that the Trump administration's policies are cruel and inhumane,
00:14:35.420 and Biden's policies are much more humane.
00:14:37.720 The secretary always says, we're going to build a more humane system.
00:14:40.820 Let me tell you something.
00:14:42.100 Since Joe Biden's been president, over 1,700 migrants have died on U.S. soil, a record by far, historic. 1.00
00:14:48.860 Over 100,000 Americans have died from fentanyl over the record.
00:14:53.520 31% of women that make that journey get sexually assaulted. 0.99
00:14:57.140 We've got record numbers of women and children being trafficked across the border. 0.97
00:15:00.580 We've got a record number of sex trafficking going on.
00:15:03.240 We've got a record number of profits made by the cartels, which is why you see so much violence.
00:15:08.540 We've got a record number of gotaways.
00:15:10.400 We've got a record number of known suspected terrorists crossing this border.
00:15:13.960 These policies aren't humane.
00:15:16.020 They're killing Americans at record numbers. 0.98
00:15:17.800 They're killing migrants at record numbers. 0.74
00:15:19.480 When you make a promise to the whole world, you can enter our country illegally. 0.98
00:15:23.940 We won't charge you with a crime.
00:15:25.940 We'll release you.
00:15:27.460 We'll fly you to the city of your choice at the taxpayers' dime.
00:15:31.460 We'll let you, you know, we'll pay for your medical costs.
00:15:34.780 We'll let you, you know, you get a sanctuary city and get a driver's license, get a job.
00:15:37.720 We'll even help you pay for your immigration costs.
00:15:39.700 And guess what?
00:15:40.500 We're pushing for an amnesty bill and Medicare for all.
00:15:43.520 When you make those type of promises to the world, the most vulnerable people will put themselves in hands of criminal cartels that come to this, the greatest country on earth, which has resulted in record deaths of migrants and U.S. citizens.
00:15:56.420 This policy is not humane.
00:15:58.300 It's not humane.
00:16:00.020 It's outrageous in point of fact, and that we have a president in the White House, and it's arguable whether or not he should be in the White House, in my opinion.
00:16:09.620 But there he is, and what he's doing to this country, he has to know full well the impact, the fact that the middle class is being destroyed by these policies, working men and women having to fight with these illegal immigrants. 1.00
00:16:26.600 And meanwhile, the Democratic Party used to be the party of working people.
00:16:31.260 It is the party of destroy the working man and woman and their family and the middle class in this country. 0.98
00:16:37.260 Well, look, I think the Chamber of Commerce is corrupt, that they don't want border security.
00:16:42.320 And you're right, they want lower wages, they want more cheap labor, illegal alien labor. 1.00
00:16:46.360 I'll tell you a quick story real quick.
00:16:47.720 I put a roof in my house two years ago, damaged that roof, so I called five different companies until I found a company that actually would guarantee me a legal workforce.
00:16:57.180 In the meantime, one of the companies responded, they didn't want to stop by, see if they could fix it, right, or replace it.
00:17:02.200 It was a U.S. citizen, father and son, who used to employ over 20 United States citizens.
00:17:07.660 Well, he looked at the roof and said, I can't replace the entire roof, I don't have the staff to do it.
00:17:12.980 And I asked him why he gave up that big company he had.
00:17:16.980 He told me I couldn't win a bid.
00:17:19.400 I couldn't win any bids on replacing roofs because I'm paying U.S. citizens, you know, at least $15, $20 an hour to get on the roof.
00:17:26.440 While some of these companies are paying illegal aliens, $5, $7.
00:17:29.180 So they're underbidding me.
00:17:30.460 I can't win a job.
00:17:32.160 So I had to lay off 20 United States citizens.
00:17:34.880 So this is just one small company example happens nationwide.
00:17:38.880 You're right.
00:17:39.380 They're going to displace American workers. 1.00
00:17:41.120 They're going to drive wages down. 0.99
00:17:42.960 They're already overcrowding the schools.
00:17:44.920 Trauma centers are shutting down.
00:17:46.980 Food banks are empty.
00:17:48.460 And it's going to get a hell of a lot worse.
00:17:51.740 And is doing so rapidly.
00:17:53.900 We're talking with Tom Holman, former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:17:58.340 We'll come back after these quick words.
00:18:00.520 Stay with us.
00:18:01.620 We will be right back.
00:18:08.660 We're back with Tom Holman, former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:18:13.080 Tom, we've been talking about all that is going on there in the border.
00:18:18.600 Crime waves are rising in every major city in this country, Democrat-led. 1.00
00:18:24.720 We have, at this point, a situation in which lawlessness is the order of the day.
00:18:30.480 I don't see a way in which any of this can be reversed, certainly not easily and certainly not quickly.
00:18:38.320 Your thoughts?
00:18:39.120 No, I don't know how he's arrived in the next few years.
00:18:42.000 The only thing that keeps me going every day is that I had dinner with President Trump a couple weeks ago.
00:18:48.580 And I committed to him.
00:18:49.440 He goes back.
00:18:50.040 I go back.
00:18:50.600 And so I was sending a message to these millions of people who think they beat the system, these millions of people who will lose their immigration case and become fugitives because they won't leave the country.
00:19:00.260 Don't get comfortable.
00:19:02.100 Because in a Trump administration, we're going to come looking for you.
00:19:05.140 In a Trump administration, we're going to secure the border once again like we did before, or this time we'll finish the job.
00:19:09.940 And hopefully the rhinos on the Hill, and there's a lot of them, they've learned their lesson. 1.00
00:19:15.360 The first time we go around, when we had the House, the Senate, in the White House, they failed to support this president and his immigration actions.
00:19:22.760 He had to take all these executive actions.
00:19:24.760 Look, we proved it worked.
00:19:26.300 Immigration down 83%.
00:19:28.040 Bottom line, no one had more effect on this border than President Trump.
00:19:33.060 And I'll go back in a heartbeat if he gets back to the White House because we need to secure a border.
00:19:38.780 What upsets me every day, and people need to think about this, the strongest nation on the face of this earth does not have operational control of our border.
00:19:50.100 Their criminal cartels of Mexico do.
00:19:52.600 They decide what comes in, where it comes in, and how it comes in.
00:19:56.640 And we can't do a damn thing about it.
00:19:59.000 With 80% of forward slashers off the line, soon to be 90%, everything's going to cross that southern border.
00:20:04.940 We need to have control of our border.
00:20:06.980 If we don't have control of our border, we have no national security.
00:20:10.760 So I hope the right guy gets back in the White House because I want to get back there, and I'll go back for free at this point because I'm so pissed off, and we'll fix it.
00:20:19.880 And for those people that broke our laws and disrespected this country, don't get comfortable.
00:20:24.500 Well, a warning from Tom Hulman, and one, I can assure you, knowing Tom for quite some time, which it's a promise he can keep.
00:20:35.700 I want to turn to also Mexico.
00:20:39.040 Right now, all of these people are coming up through Mexico. 0.61
00:20:41.540 They've got an easy pass, if you will, that takes them from the southern border of Mexico straight through to the lower border states of the United States.
00:20:55.500 Mexico has an entirely different relationship with the United States than they did under President Trump.
00:21:03.360 How bad is it?
00:21:05.380 What are the prospects that ever again will see Mexico cooperate, as they did with President Trump in his administration, and help the United States, help the United States to secure that border, rather than help the cartels with their sex trafficking, drug smuggling, and smuggling of illegal immigrants?
00:21:26.440 Look, they're not going to assist us because our president doesn't have a backbone.
00:21:31.480 You've got to have a strong president.
00:21:33.260 I mean, President Trump was a game-changer.
00:21:35.420 I mean, I remember sitting in the Oval Office, and they went, you know, Honduras and Guatemala and El Salvador were having an hour of time returning their people to, and that's been ordered removed.
00:21:44.320 President Trump made a phone call down there, and he asked me, well, what have we done in the past?
00:21:49.320 Well, we give them millions of dollars to try to create opportunities in their country so people don't leave.
00:21:56.440 Of course, money never gets where it's supposed to go because they're corrupt.
00:22:00.960 So President Trump looked at me, and he says, the hell of that?
00:22:04.240 I'm not giving any money.
00:22:05.680 I'm going to take money away.
00:22:06.980 And he called them.
00:22:07.940 He says, look, I know how much international aid we give you.
00:22:11.260 You're going to do the right thing, and plus you're going to sign the third safe country agreements.
00:22:15.840 I'm going to pull international aid away.
00:22:17.540 Within 72 hours, he had three signed agreements.
00:22:20.280 With Mexico, he told Mexico, you will put troops on your southern border and northern border. 0.72
00:22:23.780 You will agree to the Remain in Mexico program. 0.88
00:22:28.760 Well, I'll tear up the hell out of you.
00:22:30.580 President Trump was, people can say what they want about him, but he was a game changer.
00:22:37.640 He didn't let people bully this country, and he told Mexico, step up the blade or you're going to be penalized. 0.57
00:22:43.520 And it worked.
00:22:44.840 This administration isn't threatening Mexico.
00:22:47.340 You know, it's against the law in the country of Mexico to traffic in women and children, but they're turning a blind eye to it.
00:22:52.820 The criminal cartels in Mexico owns most of the Mexican military and law enforcement and most of the leadership.
00:23:01.220 And we're sitting back allowing that to happen, and we shouldn't.
00:23:05.380 So, you know, I don't think they're going to bend over backwards to help us because they're not being forced to.
00:23:10.540 The two times you see him meet with AMLO, AMLO is telling him what needs to be done, not the other way around.
00:23:17.100 We need a strong president.
00:23:18.640 We don't have one.
00:23:19.440 Yeah, we sure don't.
00:23:21.440 And you're talking about Manuel Lopez Obrador.
00:23:26.020 He is absolutely disrespecting the president of the United States every day.
00:23:32.160 And he's certainly disrespecting the United States by facilitating the movement of these vast numbers of illegal immigrants through his country to our northern border. 0.77
00:23:43.140 I shouldn't say our northern border, our southern border, the northern border of Mexico, because this president has surrendered the southern border to the cartels.
00:23:53.140 I don't think there's any doubt about it.
00:23:55.000 And that corruption that we talk about on the border, Tom, I've been saying this for a long time.
00:24:01.440 That corruption on the border is on both sides of that border.
00:24:05.460 I think that we have seen now, we've witnessed a number of cities and towns, certainly across that border, that have been absolutely corrupted and seized by the cartels.
00:24:17.260 Your thoughts?
00:24:19.140 You're exactly right.
00:24:21.120 The criminal cartels are now in every major city of our country.
00:24:28.040 Not only are they smuggling the dangerous narcotics into this country, now they're taking on the distribution within this country.
00:24:34.140 People need to understand that, you know, it's MS-13.
00:24:38.740 When I started my career back in 1984, MS-13 was in three states.
00:24:43.180 They are now in 48 states.
00:24:45.000 The criminal cartels are actually in over 30 countries across the globe because no one's taking them on.
00:24:50.700 Like I say, President Trump wanted to name terrorist organizations and let the United States take it on.
00:24:56.900 Mexico is never going to take power with the cartels by themselves.
00:25:01.200 They haven't got the willpower, and plus, like I said, a lot of them are corrupt.
00:25:04.500 It's going to take United States law enforcement, intelligence services, and special forces to take these guys out, and they should.
00:25:11.700 I mean, bottom line is the Mexican cartels have killed more Americans than ISIS.
00:25:16.420 You know, and this president, we're doing nothing to force Mexico to take action on cartels.
00:25:24.740 First of all, like I said, I don't think they have the ability.
00:25:27.000 We're not going to force Mexico to take steps.
00:25:28.900 All the precursors from the Fed and arguing from China to Mexico are being produced and transported here.
00:25:36.980 What has this president done to hold China accountable for creating the precursors that are poisoning and killing 100,000 Americans? 0.99
00:25:43.960 Not a damn thing.
00:25:45.560 I think it's White House is compromised, and they're not taking the necessary action to protect Americans.
00:25:51.160 Their number one responsibility is protect Americans, and they're not doing it.
00:25:55.900 Tom Holman, former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
00:26:00.580 Tom, we appreciate you being with us.
00:26:03.080 We thank you for all you're doing with the Heritage Foundation and trying to make this country more secure.
00:26:11.000 We always give our guests the last word, Tom.
00:26:13.880 Your concluding thoughts, if you will.
00:26:15.580 I can't wait to 2024, and I hope the voters understand that this isn't just an immigration issue anymore.
00:26:24.400 It's a national security issue about the future of this country.
00:26:26.980 This is not the America I grew up in.
00:26:29.300 I want the America I grew up in back, and it's only going to take a change at the White House, and I look forward to coming back.
00:26:36.080 And also, Lou, I want to thank you, and shows like yours help educate the American people on the lives of this administration.
00:26:44.200 So thank you for your dedication.
00:26:46.220 You've been doing this for years.
00:26:47.340 I was on the show many times.
00:26:49.060 Thanks for your fight, and I can almost be convinced you're not going to shut up.
00:26:53.980 So thank God for you, too, and let's keep raising hell until we get the right guy back here in that White House.
00:26:59.020 Tom Holman with the Heritage Foundation, former director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a great American.
00:27:06.080 And here tomorrow, we'll be taking up the most powerful external threat the nation faces,
00:27:11.520 Communist China and their strategies to achieve global dominion. 0.87
00:27:15.980 Our guests will be Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer.
00:27:19.140 That's tomorrow.
00:27:20.320 Please join us.
00:27:21.500 Till then, thanks for being with us today.
00:27:23.720 God bless you, and God bless America.