The Great America Saturday Show： April 27th, 2024
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Jesse Banal represents President Trump in his ongoing case against Joe Biden in the New York City courtroom. President Trump calls it a "witch hunt" and accuses the Democratic Party of trying to keep him off the campaign trail. Meanwhile, Speaker Mike Johnson and his uniparty continue to betray their own party and send billions of dollars to foreign nations.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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President Trump started this week back in a New York City courtroom
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as the Marxist Dems are hoping to do all the damage they can possibly do to him
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Trump gave a statement before entering the courtroom.
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I just want to say before we begin, these are all Biden trials.
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I'm here instead of being able to be in Pennsylvania and Georgia
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They've been going up because people understand what's going on.
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This is a witch hunt, and it's a shame, and it comes out of Washington.
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It's in coordination with Washington, everything, including the DA's office.
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I just want people to understand that this is done for purposes of hurting the opponent
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of the worst president in the history of our country.
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It's a disgrace what these Marxist Dems are doing to President Trump, doing to our system
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Over the weekend, Speaker Mike Johnson issued his latest betrayal of the Republican Party,
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Johnson and his uniparty of 101 rhinos sending another gift to foreign nations, in particular,
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Ukraine, $60 billion of it to Ukraine, $26 billion to Israel, and another $8 billion to Taiwan.
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Not a single dollar of it going to secure our southern border, but $300 million of it
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will go towards securing Ukraine's eastern border.
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And Speaker Johnson, who has been nothing but a disgrace as Speaker,
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talking to the press after passing the bill, he says this funding was needed because Russia
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is a real threat to our prosperity and security, and this issue demands American leadership.
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He's right, but America isn't getting that leadership.
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The world is destabilized, and it's a tinderbox.
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Three of our primary adversaries, Russia and Iran and China, are working together,
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and they're being aggressors around the globe, and they're a global threat to our prosperity
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Their advance threatens their free world, and it demands American leadership.
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If we turn our backs right now, the consequences could be devastating.
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It makes you wonder just who does Mike Johnson think he's fooling.
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The military-industrial complex and the warmongers in Congress seem to own just about 100%
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Well, after that bill was passed, one of Mike Johnson's mouthpieces, Congressman Tony
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Gonzalez, ran to make an appearance on CNN, well, to kind of, I don't know, kiss up to,
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I guess, Speaker Johnson, or maybe it was worse than that.
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Rino Gonzalez took the opportunity not to call on the House to start working for America and
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Americans, but to call out those great Republicans who stood up to this gross abuse of foreign
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Even going so far as calling fellow Republicans members of the KKK.
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Look, the House is a rough and rowdy place, but Mike Johnson is going to be just fine.
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It's my absolute honor to be in Congress, but I served with some real scumbags.
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Look, Matt Gaetz, he paid minors to have sex with him at drug parties.
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Bob Goode endorsed my opponent, a known neo-Nazi.
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These people used to walk around with white hoods at night.
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Now they're walking around with white hoods in the daytime.
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Gonzalez is not only a rhino, but as big a fool as Mike Johnson.
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I don't even know why they waste their time calling themselves Republicans anymore.
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And by the way, they're gutless wonders without principle.
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He represents President Trump in many of President Trump's civil cases.
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And he worked on the 2016 Trump campaign as a parliamentary procedure expert.
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And Jesse, just great to have you with us here.
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Letitia James having thrown back in her teeth that there was something about the bond that
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just simply was inordinate and unjustified, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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It's good to see her just basically floundering as she should have been throughout.
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It was a temper tantrum by an attorney general who thought that she could be able to destroy
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Donald Trump's wealth in New York City without him getting full access to his appellate rights.
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She believes very strongly that the process should be the punishment.
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And so she found a judge that was willing to go along with almost everything that she
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You know, this is the judge that thought Mar-a-Lago was only worth about $18 million, in which
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case, you know, most people would say, oh, I'll take 10 of them.
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Um, and, uh, so she threw this temper tantrum and said, well, President Trump was able to
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You know, that's a huge number for almost every American to be able to come up with.
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And she, and she said that just simply wasn't enough.
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It was so preposterous that even Judge Angeron, who's no friend of Donald Trump, who's proven
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himself to be a Trump hater, wouldn't even go along with her request.
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It is stunning to see the hate, uh, the constancy of that hate, uh, over, over years and to campaign,
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uh, to destroy the man, uh, and then, uh, to proceed in the new New York judiciary to do
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Uh, it's just amazing to me that, that, that there's no one in the New York court system
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who will bridle her back, at least bring her to heel, uh, and, and, and suddenly discover
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perhaps that there is such a thing as law and order.
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Yeah, that's exactly what should be happening right now.
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That is what our justice system was designed, uh, for is for some is when you have a judge
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that just goes so far out of left field as you have a judge anger on, or, you know, when
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you have a prosecutor that is so aggressive, like Letitia James, you're supposed to have
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a judicial system that, that brings them back in line, but in too many courthouses right
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There's a poison that goes beyond just the judges on the bench.
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It goes back to what's going on in their chambers.
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And I've actually been back in judicial chambers when this happens, but these judges, they talk
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They talk with their, their secretaries, their judicial assistants, their law clerks.
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And in so many of these places in New York, there's such a fervor of hatred against Donald
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Trump that none of them can, can withstand, uh, the, the social pressure that goes on in
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their chambers, uh, to actually stand up for law and order when law and order supports Donald
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And so that's a, a really, really difficult thing that is very much undermining the rule
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Uh, it's certainly in America, certainly in New York state.
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I think New York state now has proved itself to be, uh, the perhaps I'm going to, I haven't
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sitting here thinking there is Illinois, there are other States, uh, there is California, but
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in my experience and coverage, uh, there is no state, uh, worse than New York, uh, and
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the only place in the United States more corrupt in its judiciary, uh, is, uh, the district of
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I mean, those are two prize examples of just everything our, our system should not be about.
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And it's no secret that that's the reason that, that, uh, you know, these, uh, the, the,
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Biden white house, uh, these, uh, government bureaucrats that hate Donald Trump, and they're
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doing everything they can to bring these cases against Trump in New York city and Washington,
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And it's, it's a really sad thing because of course, most of New York state is a beautiful
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That is this, this swamp, uh, just as bad as DC, where they are just absolutely have, uh,
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so many people have this absolute hatred of Donald Trump.
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And so between Washington DC and New York, you have these prosecutors and you have these
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judges, and it's so sad to see judges be a part of this that are not, it's not good
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enough for them to have their voices heard at the ballot box.
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They want to use their judicial positions, their prosecutor positions to try to affect
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the 2024 election and to try to take out Donald Trump and try to get Joe Biden reelected.
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Uh, what is equally worrisome is that there is no countervailing influence against such
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And, uh, in, in New York, uh, California, I don't know how many States on the either coast
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actually are engaged in this, uh, lawfare, uh, through and through that is the judge, the
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prosecutor, uh, the attorneys, uh, the legal system, uh, the associations in every state.
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I mean, to see what happened to John Eastman in, in, in California, uh, what is happening
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to Donald Trump and not one, not two, but three New York courts, uh, almost simultaneously
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And it's, it's where, you know, the, the rule of law in America really does go to die
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And it's, and you know, one thing that I think you said that's so important is there's not
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Unfortunately, the other side, uh, feels free to play these games and to use their power, uh,
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this power of lawfare to try to destroy Donald Trump because they know that Republicans would
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never do the same thing at the shoe or on the other foot right now.
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There's been unilateral disarmament and it's, it's one of the most dangerous things out
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there because, uh, that every time Republicans seem to get control and, and we see this in
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Congress, they decide that they're going to play nice when the, when the Democrats and
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And so, um, you know, one of the things that's going to be critically important going forward
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I, I truly, truly believe that these judges, these prosecutors are violating the law.
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They are, they are compromising civil rights under color of law.
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And if we are to put a stop to this once and for all, the only way to do that is for there
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The next time that, uh, you know, when Donald Trump is in the white house, we need to have
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a department of justice that actually goes after these, these people for their lawfare.
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And this, by the way, is it resonates of something that, uh, in the 2016 election, uh, lock her
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up became a chant across all of the rallies and you could see president Trump flinch.
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Uh, he did not, uh, that did not suit him to, to even think about prosecuting her.
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Uh, and he declined to prosecute her, even though it was very clear she had committed a
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number of felonies, uh, and acts against the interests of the United States.
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Uh, and if that, if the Republican party and the, and, and the Trump organization has not
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learned that lesson, because it is a responsibility, I believe, uh, of this president, uh, Donald
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Trump to make certain that there is the accountability that you are, uh, describing at this moment.
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We're back and we're talking with Jesse Banal and Jesse, I just have to, let's turn to what
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is going on at this very moment in New York and that is the outrageous prosecution of Donald
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And, and your thoughts about why this case is, as was ever, how did it successfully come
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about for the, for the Marxist left who actually mean it to, to be a pure election interference?
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Um, and specifically what happened is they took the number three prosecutor at the Department
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of Justice, the most, you know, big and powerful law firm in the world.
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And they moved him to a county district attorney's office, you know, the, a big county, Manhattan,
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but it's certainly a step down from the Department of Justice being the number three at the Department
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of Justice, he was moved to go after and get Donald Trump using this preposterous legal
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theory, uh, that was, uh, completely devoid not only of, uh, of a legal basis, but it had
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It's based primarily on the word of Michael Cohen.
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Um, you know, not exactly the most credible man in the world.
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And so, uh, they take, and they move over this prosecutor from Biden's justice department
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to the New York, uh, um, district attorney's office, and they bring this case and lo and
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behold, it gets transferred to a Trump hating judge, somebody who is donated to Joe Biden.
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And of course he was going to schedule it to have maximum political impact to try to take
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So regardless of what happened at trial, he would be able to do everything he could to
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hurt Donald Trump when he was running for election, uh, uh, as president of the United
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And let me just say that I have never seen before a judge make political donations while
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Uh, it's something that is just, uh, it is unheard of.
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And this judge, not only has he made political donations, not only has he donated to Joe Biden,
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but when he was called out for it, he refused to recuse himself.
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This is the clearest example of why recusal is warranted of any case I've ever seen in
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And, and, and, and not only is, is he conflicted himself because of this, but his daughter is
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making money on this case and immediate family member.
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This would be a bad B movie that wouldn't be believable if it was in Hollywood, just
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because it's so preposterous to think that it would, it would happen this way.
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And again, the American people know that what is happening in New York is not, uh, justice.
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This judge is not dispensing justice from the bench.
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He's using his courtroom for politics and it's disgusting.
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It is so the hype, the hyperbolic, uh, partisanship of the Marxist Dems in New York.
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Uh, as you said, uh, it's the, it's the feeding ground, uh, for all of this, uh, because it is
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That is Manhattan, uh, New York, uh, go to Fulton County, uh, Georgia.
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I mean, it's rancid with corruption, uh, at some point.
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And then we, I don't want to let the, uh, federal judiciary off here.
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It could be, this is not the, the, the nation's capital.
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Uh, this could not be the nation's capital of the greatest constitutional republic in
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Uh, it is a cesspool of corruption and political, uh, an attempt at political assassination.
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And let's talk about why Washington DC is like this.
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Washington DC was supposed to be a town where people came from across America for a small
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amount of times to be able to represent the people in those, in those various states,
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um, you know, from, from Florida to New York, uh, to, to Wisconsin.
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But instead this permanent bureaucracy developed and this permanent bureaucracy that makes up
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95% plus of the federal workforce is now what controls Washington DC.
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And when Donald Trump became the first president in ages to push back on the power of the bureaucrats,
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they decided they were going to have their, their revenge on him.
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And so when you have these cases that are brought by DC prosecutors like Jack Smith in a DC courtroom
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with a, with a DC judge who has made it very clear how much she hates Donald Trump, um,
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then you, you know, what the result is going to be.
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There's no doubt about what the result is going to be.
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And that these people will do everything they possibly can to use, again, use their judicial
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And that's why we need serious reforms in our judicial system in order to make sure this
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It cannot be Washington DC bureaucrats and people that come up in that bureaucracy, including
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Tonya Chutkin, who decide they're going to dictate the law to the American people.
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It has to be, uh, back to our constitutional, uh, roots where America decides what Washington
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It's not Washington DC deciding what America is going to do.
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Tonya Chutkin, the federal judge, uh, in the Trump case, uh, is, as it seems to me backed
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off a bit because the Supreme court is going to be ruling the appellate court, uh, uh, the
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And, and while I'm not hopeful, I'm not optimistic.
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I do reserve the possibility that, uh, that conscience could strike, uh, on any one of those,
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Uh, I don't know what the odds of that are, but definitely, uh, we're it's, uh, there is
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a reason to at least accept the, that there is a probability, a possibility, uh, that's
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to somehow there will be a restoration of ethics.
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And, uh, we're talking with Jesse Banal, uh, the president's attorney, and we're going
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We're talking with Jesse Banal and Jesse, uh, the president's attorney.
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And I want to just, there's one thing that just really just makes me furious because as
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you might guess, I'm kind of interested in the public's right to know I'm interested in
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free speech mightily, uh, and for this judge, uh, merchant to apply a gag order here, uh,
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Uh, why do these, uh, why do these creeps, uh, think that they have to have a gag order?
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Uh, what makes them think that they, they're so above the rest of us that they need special
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protection from a former president of the United States, the, uh, presumptive nominee of
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the, uh, of the Republican party for president, uh, the leading candidate for president, who,
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Because the founders looked at these gag orders specifically when they drafted the
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first amendment, this is one of the things the founders were particularly concerned about
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is something called prior restraints on speech and injunction against you being able to say
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what's on your mind, especially when it came to matters of policy and politics.
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And that's why they gave us the first amendment is to protect us against that.
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And the Supreme court has recognized that before the Supreme court has even said that the Washington
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post, the New York times couldn't be prohibited by the government from, from publishing classified
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information during a war because it would be a prior restraint on speech.
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But there are a lot of these judges that believe that there's a Trump exception to the rule of law.
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There's a Trump exception to the constitution and what they know and why this is so important
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to them is because they, uh, they know that Donald Trump has been calling them out, calling
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out their hypocrisy, calling out their partisan bias, and they want to do everything they can to put a
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muzzle on him because they know that the American people are sick of this and they want to try to
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stop this information from getting to the American people. And that's, you know, there's a famous quote
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that, you know, violations of freedom of speech are, are a double sin because it affects not only the
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rights of the speaker, it is, it affects the rights of the listener. It affects the rights of people to
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get information. And that's why it's so, these gag orders are so incredibly dangerous, Liv.
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Well, for example, right now, uh, I'm, uh, we've got, uh, Elon Musk parading around talking about
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freedom of speech. Uh, it's a joke. Uh, what he is running is a, uh, operation in that platform now
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that is starting to approach levels of prior restraint, uh, that are unimaginable, uh, until we saw the
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people, you know, uh, Twitter suddenly align itself with the FBI, that apartment of justice and the
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intelligence agencies. And I don't know whether or not Elon Musk has done, gone that far, but I can
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tell you this, he is shadow banning me and he's shadow banning me because I have a particular point
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of view that is, uh, well, I, a little different than his, for example, he wants, he wanted, uh,
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TikTok, uh, to be as a matter of free speech, to be given free reign in the United States.
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This is a foreign owned company. And by the way, it has responsibilities to the CCP, uh, to the PLA
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and is, is the last I heard, uh, Xi Jinping still wanted to go to war with the United States somewhere
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between 2025 and 2027. And he said it publicly. I mean, this is madness that we're watching.
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It is, Lou. And, and, uh, as we see more and more attacks on freedom of speech right now, and,
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and that includes, uh, freedom of speech. When you have these, these social media, uh, organizations
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that have a, a near monopoly on the ability to get your message out and they're able to take
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either directly shutting people out or like you, like you're saying, shadow banning. This is something
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that I think is very, very concerning and something that we really need to push back on
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as Americans because, uh, and, and I mean, luckily there's, uh, platforms out there like truth
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social, which I think are, are excellent, uh, that, uh, that don't do that. And so one of the
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things we can do as, as Americans right now, I think is to, uh, spend more time on, on some of those
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platforms, uh, as well, but it's, there's gotta be accountability for anybody that tries to, to shut
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up Americans, especially when you're doing it to the benefit of a foreign power.
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Without question. And as we, as we look at the, the situation that we've now have in this country,
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you talked about the pervasive and I did as well, the pervasive corrupt corruption of our judicial
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system, our legal profession, the, the American banker associate American banker, the American
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bar association, uh, will not, not step up, but where they do step up, they mean to destroy free
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speech and the right to free expression and representation of anyone. I mean, I've never seen,
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I've actually experienced this, uh, major big law as they're called major firms, the most prestigious
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firms in the country, uh, absolutely carrying out a ban against anyone that was pro-Trump because
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that's not good for their, uh, their, their corporate and globalist clientele. Uh, it's,
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it is remarkable to me the degree to which we have descended in terms of, uh, of legal rights.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. And this lack of access, access to justice, if you are a Trump
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supporting American is something that's very, very dangerous. It's something that when, when lawyers
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in this country have, uh, stopped being willing to represent people because of their political
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beliefs, it's something that is extremely dangerous. Now it's something that I quite frankly
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have taken advantage of because the fact that these big law firms are refusing to represent good
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Americans, you know, made it so I could, I could go out and get some of the best legal talent, uh,
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in the world. And, and we've been able to, uh, go and represent some people, um, and get some great
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results. But the fact is we can't do it all on our own and we need to get back to, uh, you know,
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something along the lines of, of what happens in the UK. And it's sad to say that the UK is better than
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than we are, but they have something called the cab. I know. Right. Um, they have speaking of a place
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where there's no free speech, right? Right. Um, but on this, on legal access, they're better
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because they have something called the cab rank rule and they don't actually turn people away,
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uh, because of, for instance, their political positions. They believe everyone is entitled
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to legal representation. And that's critically important, uh, for our,
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for our constitutional Republic to flourish. And I, I, you know, I'm somewhat older than you,
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uh, but I think even as, uh, as young as you are, you will recall the days in which the, uh,
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the progressive left, as they call them, that they're, they're Marxists now. Yeah. They,
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they prided themselves on their tolerance. They call for greater tolerance in our society and they have
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become, uh, the scorched earth party. Uh, and they mean to devastate anyone who dares to speak up,
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uh, with values and views different than their own. And that is a sad, sad place. Uh, I have to tell
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you, Jesse, we're delighted that you're representing the president. Uh, we wish you a continued great
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success as you do so and, uh, and beyond and, uh, hope you'll come back here soon to talk. Appreciate it.
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I can't wait to join you again, Lou. Thank you. Be sure to join us here tomorrow for the great
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