The Great America Show - The Great America Saturday Show： January 11, 2025

00:00:00.000 hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you guys with us today

00:00:06.600 thank you so much for joining us on this fine uh tuesday afternoon in america we're doing things a

00:00:12.500 little bit differently today we're doing the show live so maybe a little bit of a different aspect

00:00:17.520 we're going to be taking your your questions and all that good stuff in just a few moments we're

00:00:21.720 going to be joined uh by a brilliant man a fan favorite on this program russ tice former senior

00:00:28.520 nsa intel analyst and a great american also a whistleblower blowing the whistle on some big

00:00:34.340 things in this country on government corruption before it was popular to do so um so a fan favorite

00:00:41.880 on the show he's going to be joining us like i said in just a few moments uh president trump having a

00:00:46.520 very eventful day today uh down at mar-a-lago hosting a press conference and laying out some agenda items

00:00:53.280 on where he's going to be taking this country in just under two weeks now uh when he takes back

00:00:58.960 that oval office uh yesterday a big day in this country with the election being certified um no

00:01:04.900 marxist dems objecting to those election results kind of weird because those folks are big time

00:01:10.560 election deniers uh but nice to see nonetheless um maybe they'll finally start to rally behind

00:01:16.740 president-elect donald trump and uh try to help us make america great again i think it's in everyone's

00:01:22.380 best interest not just us republicans or conservatives but all americans uh who doesn't

00:01:28.660 want to make america great again um you find me a person who doesn't want to do that and i'll tell

00:01:34.440 you they're a marxist because they are but president trump laying out his agenda um among many of the

00:01:40.640 the list items which we're going to take up but russ tice in just a few moments was the renaming of

00:01:46.320 the gulf of mexico now this is one we hadn't heard from before we've heard no tax on tips

00:01:51.100 no tax on overtime all that good stuff ending the wars over in palestine and israel and gaza

00:01:57.400 ending the war in ukraine but this is a new one take a listen to president trump's vision

00:02:01.600 for the gulf of mexico or soon to be what was the gulf of mexico here he is it's ours we're going to be

00:02:08.840 changing sort of the opposite of biden where he's closing everything up essentially getting rid of

00:02:13.640 50 to 60 trillion dollars worth of assets we're going to be uh changing the name of the gulf of

00:02:20.420 mexico to the gulf of america which has a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory the gulf of

00:02:28.840 america what a beautiful name and it's appropriate it's appropriate and mexico has to stop allowing

00:02:37.500 millions of people to pour into our country they can stop them and uh we're going to put very serious

00:02:43.820 tariffs on mexico and canada you know it's kind of got a nice ring to it the gulf of america and

00:02:50.400 you know everything president trump says is very logical you know as you just boil it down to

00:02:55.360 logic there's nothing complex about most of the things he says because he makes it very simple for

00:03:00.460 all americans to understand you didn't have to go to an ivy league school or graduate with a 4.0 to

00:03:06.240 understand what he's saying and i think that's why president trump has resonated among the american

00:03:11.080 people like no president ever has now you take it like i said as you as you wish but that's my view

00:03:17.700 on it and uh you know he's at a a thousand foot level where some of these politicians want to be

00:03:22.660 at a 10 20 000 foot level so they could try to seem smarter than you and they're not and president trump

00:03:27.460 doesn't try to do that uh president trump also laying out no or maybe not laying out but uh giving us his

00:03:34.300 vision on on two very important places right now uh panama and greenland president trump not ruling out

00:03:41.300 the possibility of uh military force in either of those places take a listen to greenland and

00:03:49.320 panama canal so what can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas

00:03:58.000 you are not going to use military or economic coercion no can you tell us a little bit about what your

00:04:04.220 plan is are you going to negotiate a new treaty are you uh going to ask the canadians to hold the

00:04:11.400 vote what what is the strategy i can't assure you you're talking about uh panama and greenland no i

00:04:16.840 can't assure you on either of those two but uh i can say this we need them for economic security

00:04:23.680 the panama canal was built for our military i'm not going to commit to that now it might it might be

00:04:30.860 good that's gotta have the marxist dems heads absolutely spinning anytime president trump

00:04:37.760 answers a question like that with a refusal of an answer which has every right to do joe biden's

00:04:42.860 done it to us for the last four years and when he did give an answer it was something that none of us

00:04:47.280 really understood what he was saying so president trump has every right to do so uh but it's going

00:04:52.760 to be fun and interesting to see and president trump making two very good points uh are we going to

00:04:59.060 take it over or are we going to allow china because what people don't realize is it's us or china

00:05:04.120 china's presence down in south america and um and down in countries like guatemala and honduras and

00:05:12.200 panama has grown exponentially over the last 10 years or so building dams uh building uh power plants

00:05:20.600 where they can power things um what's next military ships down the border i mean we remember

00:05:26.360 what happened in the cuban missile crisis is that next with china so the way i see it and i think

00:05:32.140 the way president trump sees it as it's either ours or it's china's and uh we better beat them to the

00:05:37.440 punch before it's too late and that's the way i believe he sees greenland um the other thing that's

00:05:42.780 you know that we haven't been talking about since we're back here on the show now since christmas and

00:05:47.200 new year's and the mainstream media also isn't talking about is those drones i'm a new yorker i travel quite a

00:05:53.100 bit i got to check out those drones firsthand very up close uh both on an airplane and from the ground

00:05:58.240 but they've seemingly seemed to disappear now interestingly enough a man uh committed suicide

00:06:05.700 on new year's uh day in front of trump hotel in las vegas blowing up a cyber truck um only taking his

00:06:13.000 own life unfortunately uh for everyone who was a bystander but he left behind a note uh that basically

00:06:20.740 said and we're going to get russ tice's take on this in just a few moments uh but basically said

00:06:25.780 those drones that were flying over were china drones um it's very sophisticated gravatic propulsion

00:06:31.780 almost uh ufo like if if ufos were to exist but um laying out this whole plan that these are

00:06:39.660 basically chinese drones american people know about it um and they're not doing anything about it they're

00:06:45.440 allowing china to continue to eat our lunch um i want to bring in our guest today as i've told you

00:06:51.860 and teased it's russ tice great american former uh senior nsa intel analyst and whistleblower russ

00:06:57.840 it's great to have you with us um before we get into the whole greenland panama things which i want to

00:07:03.340 get your take on among many other things i want to talk about these drones and what's happened to those

00:07:09.280 drones you and i were talking on the phone yesterday about this manifesto um that this uh this man left

00:07:16.040 behind the las vegas uh i don't know if we would even call him a bomber but um man who blew up the car

00:07:21.580 in front of trump tower saying that these are chinese drones coming from submarines what's your take

00:07:28.880 russ last we spoke you you had alluded to the fact that you believed it was some sort of uh u.s

00:07:34.980 um military contractor operation any thoughts well uh coming from a chinese submarine right um

00:07:45.240 first of all uh we have a system it's called solstice um that keeps track of basically their

00:07:52.420 underwater uh microphones or hydrophones right um that listen for sound and uh the chinese are not yet

00:08:00.520 quite very good at uh building submarines that are that are super quiet although they've sold they've

00:08:06.420 stole some of our technology i think one of one of our own uh engineers was a trader and sold a lot of

00:08:11.420 that technology to china but they're still not that good at it um i find it very difficult to believe that

00:08:18.320 the chinese could sneak up not only that if to to launch something like that i'm assuming it's not

00:08:25.000 capable of swimming underwater and flying in the air right kind of like those little bugs when we

00:08:30.720 were kids in the swimming pool they could swim and fly at the same time i don't know what those bugs

00:08:34.880 are called i always thought they were kind of cool though they were cool until they bit you russ oh i

00:08:40.680 didn't know they could bite you i mean i think anything in this world could uh could get you right

00:08:47.200 i used to play with them in my hand i thought they were kind of cool i i guess i got away with that

00:08:54.200 but uh so i find it i still find it very difficult to believe that these things came from a an iranian

00:09:02.080 mothership or from a chinese mother sub um and then and then flew over and now they're talking about

00:09:08.900 using anti-gravity technology to fly these things um we've we've done i've i've dabbled in a little bit

00:09:17.940 of that and that sort of thing and that kind of um that kind of research uh takes an awful lot of

00:09:25.400 power just to create a gravitational anti or vacuum anti-gravitational field to be able to try to come

00:09:32.820 up with that to try to put that in the air it's it's right now i think pretty much impossible

00:09:40.240 but um you know we are working on a lot of uh interesting technologies uh it's been a while

00:09:47.400 since i was privy to a lot of that but um i find it very difficult i still believe that these were

00:09:55.140 these this was a sap program that we then though we had the conventional very largely built conventional

00:10:01.400 um drones with the the four point or or five or six or seven or eight point um rotaries to keep it

00:10:11.200 airborne and that these things were designed to to do something that that probably we don't have the

00:10:18.200 capability to do now um and i prefer not to talk about it because it's probably something that we

00:10:24.380 really need for our national defense and so i don't want to give that i don't want to give that idea

00:10:29.360 away because if it's true i don't want to want you know what do you mean russ when you came out and

00:10:33.940 blew the whistle they said you're a traitor to this country you're a you're a bad american why would

00:10:38.400 you not want to you know well the way what these people say that it's just joke obviously you're not

00:10:44.480 a traitor to this country you're a great american which is why aloo loved you so much and why i love

00:10:48.700 you so much um but no i i mean i think you're you're probably right and i mean i can't tell you and

00:10:55.300 you guys can go back for uh any of you guys who haven't watched all the episodes with russ but

00:11:00.400 lou was talking to russ i don't know what has it been two years it was about two years or so a year

00:11:04.460 and a half or so ago and you told us things russ that it was like you were a mind reader or you were

00:11:11.460 uh um foreseeing what was going to happen because i can't think of a thing that you had told us

00:11:17.180 uh that didn't pan out to be true or didn't come to be true i mean you had told us uh the trump

00:11:22.720 assassination attempt you were terrified it was going to happen and uh you know you tried to

00:11:27.600 that's what the reason why you had first gotten in contact with lou uh because you were scared about

00:11:32.060 an assassination attempt on president trump and now this is well over a year ago like i said a year

00:11:36.940 and a half maybe even two years ago which you got in contact with lou because you were nervous about

00:11:41.560 that there's a litany of things that you have been right about russ and a lot of people have been

00:11:46.420 wrong about um perhaps one of the biggest things you were right about was a patriot act but i want to go

00:11:51.300 back to this fellow who decided to blow up that car in front of um the trump hotel clearly a smart guy

00:11:59.880 from all accounts if you look at his military it's matthew livelsberger his security clearance he had

00:12:06.440 a tssci which from my understanding it's just a regular top secret security clearance bottom level

00:12:11.740 security clearance for anyone with something called a uap and a usap now when i did my research what i

00:12:19.600 could find on those security clearances which it's not very readily available the information on some

00:12:24.520 of these clearances um the uap one would be some sort of security clearance that would make this

00:12:30.260 fella privy to if there was such thing as aliens or if there were such things as ufos the other one was

00:12:37.540 the usap uh clearance which is something that you just mentioned the the sap programs which would give

00:12:43.840 him some insight into these sap programs which you have told us in the past are very very tight

00:12:49.920 niched and can be even so tight niched that a president of the united states might not even know

00:12:55.600 about a sap program that's being run so this fella no dumb fella and he writes in this manifesto

00:13:01.980 um that he's just pretty much tired of all the corruption and everything that's going on in this

00:13:07.620 country and the things that we're doing overseas and and all the wrongdoing we're doing in this

00:13:12.960 country how do you read it after reading this manifesto russ now i'm not trying to make this

00:13:18.660 guy a hero or anything but the way i read it russ and i want your take on this because you're a

00:13:25.120 professional you've spent you know your career in the military and public service the way i read it was

00:13:29.860 this man was crying out for help what did you read it as i tend to agree with that and you know you

00:13:37.440 got to realize these these uh we call them snake eaters in our business these guys they see the

00:13:42.440 worst of the worst right when they go on these deployments they see they see the bodies of

00:13:47.360 children just being strewn about they see they see the most horrific things and and that's that's got

00:13:54.320 to eat on your mind i've seen a little bit of that and to this day it's to think back it's horrifying

00:13:59.480 to have to deal with that every time you go out on deployment um you know this guy was hurting um

00:14:06.540 his uh i think his marriages were not working out um which is typical so you know a lot of times

00:14:17.460 these guys as far as the uh the the usap that's an unacknowledged special access program is what the

00:14:24.480 usap is the other one um when i was at right when i was stationed right pat in the air force i i was

00:14:31.140 literally uh working in the unit that dealt with uh foreign space communications and and non-communications

00:14:38.340 control systems um now were those little green men in spaceships no they they were other countries

00:14:45.780 that put things in and through and out of space so um um um so although those those programs had

00:14:57.200 different kinds of uh uh designators for the for the um what we would call them so i'm not familiar

00:15:04.420 with that first designator that you just mentioned that might be new since i've been i haven't been

00:15:08.640 privy to it but um i think this fella maybe he's you know he's he's heard of something that's a little

00:15:16.860 bit outlandish and he's just incorporated that in some of the things some of you know there are times

00:15:21.900 when we go in the field where um they'll take a specialist who's in the intel community and their

00:15:29.680 job is to go do a specific task to do something very sneaky in a part of the world where we're not

00:15:35.660 supposed to be and the idea is to get in and to get out without anyone knowing we were ever there

00:15:40.840 it's like uh it's like sneaking in and putting like a little trojan horse in something just in

00:15:45.760 case in the future you might need to pull the trigger on that trojan horse the uh special forces

00:15:51.660 guys they're there to to to basically get get the the specialist in and to get him out and to do and

00:16:00.280 have him do the mission and whatever that the intel guy specialty is and to make sure that you don't

00:16:06.160 get captured or get you know or get found out or if you do make sure that the specialist doesn't live

00:16:11.800 to tell the tale so that the enemy can't torture the information out of them so um it's not that i've

00:16:19.520 ever been on anything like that mind you but uh anyhow it's um so they're not in really steeped into

00:16:29.460 the into the sap programs but they are part of sap programs especially when it requires

00:16:34.920 the the ins and outs so they're literally physically getting into certain parts and most of the stuff

00:16:40.480 my sap programs were all overseas and i did work indeed with uh with the the navy seals uh seal team

00:16:47.520 six when i was working with the navy programs so it's uh i'm a little familiar with how that works

00:16:52.880 i never worked with the green beret but i have worked with another

00:16:56.800 uh branch of the army that's uh snake eaters but um so i i think this this guy was hurting

00:17:04.800 he heard a few things he maybe put you know you know added you know thought that uh he may have

00:17:10.580 thought something but and and and he took his own life apparently just to try to make a statement

00:17:17.040 and and that's sad because apparently he felt that he could not go seek uh you know professional help

00:17:24.000 because they might uh ground him as far as going out you know with his units um and it turned out

00:17:31.020 poorly that this this fella is gone yeah yeah and i mean reading through some of his communications

00:17:37.440 that he had forwarded to some of these folks that he was trying to get a hold of to try to blow this

00:17:41.380 whistle i mean he was clearly intimidated and clearly nervous and for a man like uh with a background like

00:17:47.900 his for him to be intimidated russ uh he must have really either seen or believed something was was

00:17:54.520 happening and like i said from all accounts it seemed uh from his friends and ex-girlfriend that

00:17:59.180 this man was completely level-headed and um you know just seen enough i i can't say it i was never in

00:18:04.640 the military i was never overseas deployed like you had said these folks see uh dismembered bodies

00:18:11.280 kids women children you know you go down the list of things that they see in the military and uh i think

00:18:17.160 it probably does have an effect on him and he alluded to something that happened in 2019 about a human

00:18:22.720 rights violation that could have also taken effect on him russ i want to take a quick break here when

00:18:28.200 we return i want to go a little bit further into these aliens that you speak about uh it was something

00:18:33.020 lou is very keen on ufos and aliens um and i also want to take up president trump

00:18:39.080 going into greenland and panama and uh the gulf of america we're coming right back with uh russ

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00:20:13.720 you had mentioned uh those little green uh fellas uh that we uh call aliens or refer to as aliens here

00:20:19.960 in uh america on planet earth it was something lou is fascinated in uh president trump uh at an interview

00:20:26.640 one time pointed lou unofficial uh ufos are uh give me your take on ufos and the thought of

00:20:35.700 extraterrestrial life um is it out there does it exist um do you have you seen any uh evidence

00:20:45.300 to prove that it does exist or it doesn't exist

00:20:48.480 i try to keep an open mind but that said you know i did work at ftd which is uh worse and where

00:20:56.860 supposedly all all the technology and the bodies of the little green men go to be autopsied and

00:21:03.760 and the technology is to you know and i was in the foreign space program uh analysis uh program at

00:21:10.600 right pat uh in ohio um i probably shouldn't say this but i'm going to uh there are no little green

00:21:17.900 there are no alien spacecrafts that are coming in there you know um it's not happening uh i think

00:21:25.680 the air force likes to likes to just tease that out there so that people are always talking about

00:21:31.640 you know that capability and and bantering back and forth when in reality uh a lot of these sightings

00:21:38.540 are actually our own technology that we're testing that's being seen here and there you know i you know

00:21:44.880 i'm in the space business a lot of times the astronauts who who only who only had just uh would

00:21:51.820 have a a top secret clearance and there's a difference between top secret and top secret sci

00:21:57.140 sci incorporates a signals intelligence although a tssci is not a sap program which people get that

00:22:05.620 confused saps have their own you know um security systems with their own servers and everything

00:22:13.760 separate than than like the jwix systems that are involved with tssci jwix is a a uniform um system

00:22:22.220 computer system where they share all the tssci information right but the other it's not there

00:22:28.680 um it's it's being tweaked by the by the military just to keep people from you know thinking oh you know

00:22:35.240 what technology are we working on now um or what technology the enemy might have so

00:22:43.420 it's kind of it's kind of funny when i was when i was there i was a young man i was single

00:22:48.580 i used to some of the some of the young gals at uh right right uh right state university that was there

00:22:54.200 um i used to um tell them that i could get them on base and show them that infamous uh hanger where all

00:23:00.660 that was supposed to be taken care of yeah and then of course i get them on base and we drive slowly by

00:23:05.400 the hanger and it's just a big airplane hanger right and they'd all be going oh and oh of course

00:23:10.520 you know i'm i'm trying to impress them because i'm trying to uh trying to get in good with them if

00:23:16.220 you know what i mean as a young fella but uh those those days are gone but uh i'm a happily married

00:23:21.880 man now so but it's you know it's that's what's my own way of um of utilizing uh that that mystique

00:23:31.920 to uh for my own purposes the air force i think is doing it just to uh to tweak everybody and keep

00:23:38.300 them talking about these things they don't exist perhaps you know i've always thought well maybe

00:23:43.900 maybe there's a way for a foreign uh entity in another galaxy or something to send drones but if

00:23:52.100 you think about you know just the how far away our closest galaxy is andromeda the amount of years

00:23:58.620 it would take light years to get from here to there unless you've you know been able to you know

00:24:04.080 figure that one out it's it's for a life form it's nearly impossible uh for a drone capability

00:24:11.420 you know you have to deal with the power source in between now of which that anti-gravity might be

00:24:17.320 you know a concept for that but it's it's pretty slim to none that we have foreign space uh critters

00:24:24.780 floating around you know keeping an eye on us you know the interesting thing about it russ is if there

00:24:29.440 are out there uh uh you know light years away galaxies away um um the technology they would use to get

00:24:38.980 here would defy probably all uh odds and all gravity and any any sort of science we believe

00:24:45.540 here in america so that's the interesting thing i think about it if they're using a drone russ they're

00:24:50.640 not plugging a 12 volt into the wall a dgi drone and plug it into the wall and good old-fashioned

00:24:56.400 charging it like we would and they're probably not filling up a uh uh a jet with a jet a petroleum

00:25:04.020 to send it out here so that's the interesting thing the way the interesting thing that i look at

00:25:09.520 uh if they were out there and they were to get here what would be the means of transportation

00:25:13.880 how would they do it and and just how much would it defy gravity and all other things we were taught

00:25:19.440 in science in in eighth grade so that's why i look at it folks uh for any of you guys joining us here

00:25:24.340 on rumble or facebook or twitter if you guys have any questions for us like i said today's show we're

00:25:28.840 doing it live uh any questions for russ any questions for myself be sure to drop them into

00:25:34.640 the chat box and we'll try to get to the end of the show uh russ and i like to talk a lot so we're

00:25:40.660 going to try to get to your to your question before the end of the show russ i want to turn to uh

00:25:44.900 president trump's uh press conference today in which uh first we'll get to the mexico the gulf of

00:25:51.980 mexico and to be the gulf of america uh before we uh move on to some territories that he's got his eye

00:25:59.780 on um oddly enough what do you think the gulf of america i kind of like it the ring to it

00:26:06.640 well it's you know it's not america is not just the united states uh right mexico is part of america

00:26:13.580 so the central america is part of america and north the northern part of south america is part of

00:26:18.360 america so it kind of makes sense to me um but in some instances i think president trump is kind of

00:26:25.400 is tweaking their nose and and and and you see this in the press and they're all they're all

00:26:30.940 their heads are exploding about all this i can't imagine that president trump isn't sitting back

00:26:36.960 with a big uh you know what he can grin on his face when he says these things it's um i find it

00:26:45.580 hilarious but hey i'm all for you know they wanted to change everything else the the liberals

00:26:50.420 you know for fort bliss and and and everything else is you know oh i think even in colorado they

00:26:56.980 changed a couple names in the mountains because they didn't like you know the you know who the who

00:27:01.280 the guy was they wouldn't like i think it was mount evans or i can't remember you know

00:27:06.420 christopher columbus they wanted him gone out of new york uh every single statue of every single uh

00:27:13.160 confederate general or confederate flag or whatever it was they wanted it gone i mean he may be doing

00:27:20.120 it as a troll move russ but everything he does has a meaning to it and he's playing three-dimensional

00:27:25.820 chest i think constantly with um the media and with the marxist leftists and they they fall for it every

00:27:33.140 single time i mean they fall for what i call the banana in the tailpipe from the old beverly hills cop

00:27:38.700 every single time and i i mean i'm reading here today uh as i'm going through my afternoon reading

00:27:44.760 and they're absolutely melting down uh one came across here uh from the new york times

00:27:51.260 trump speaks at mar-a-lago in a rambling news conference trump talked about taking greenland and

00:27:57.920 the panama canal by force and dodged questions about january 6th pardons i don't think he's dodged any

00:28:04.280 questions about the pardons that one i didn't see uh he's made it very clear and he made it very clear

00:28:09.300 before he won this election standing on that debate stage that he was going to pardon these folks

00:28:13.380 so i'm not sure what the new york times um is talking about i don't know if you saw but uh

00:28:20.400 what's his name zuckerberg over at facebook is finally starting to fall in line i i don't know

00:28:25.440 what's taking him so long but he's starting to fall in line he appointed dana white to his board

00:28:29.400 and he says they're done with censorship so i think it's time the new york times uh start to

00:28:34.320 fall in line russ i want to turn to uh two of those other territories i'd mentioned panama

00:28:40.220 and uh green uh greenland um at president trump talking about maybe taking them by force i'm going

00:28:48.420 to play here again uh for the audience his comments when asked if he used the military

00:28:53.780 greenland and panama canal so what can you assure the world that as you try to uh get control of

00:29:03.720 these areas you are not going to use military or economic coercion no can you tell us a little

00:29:09.640 bit about what your plan is are you going to negotiate a new treaty are you uh going to ask the

00:29:16.700 canadians to hold the vote what what is the strategy i can't assure you you're talking about

00:29:21.420 panama and greenland no i can't assure you on either of those two but uh i can say this we need

00:29:28.300 them for economic security the panama canal was built for our military i'm not going to commit to

00:29:35.760 that now it might it might be that huh president trump uh you know like i said everything he does is

00:29:43.100 three-dimensional chess and there's always a deeper meaning to it but he's right uh for if you

00:29:49.260 remember back in my monologue uh it's either ours or china's uh so either we take it or china takes

00:29:55.960 it and china like i said uh dominating south america dominating uh up to even mexico and i think

00:30:03.900 there will even be a day where we see their influence grow in mexico not that it's not already

00:30:08.960 exponential with their drug import business that they're running down there with fentanyl but

00:30:13.420 in other ways as well we may soon see missiles on our border with from china from russia that you

00:30:21.200 name it maybe from iran um so what president trump said i in my opinion i think is absolutely correct

00:30:27.420 as it pertains to the panama canal uh we'll get your take on that first russ well panama you know

00:30:33.980 if i recall um we had to like uh take it over from the french who when they tried it that didn't

00:30:41.400 work too well for them and then we had to deal with colombia and then i think we foster rebellion

00:30:46.480 so that panama became its own country then as soon as they did that we we created the deal with panama

00:30:52.080 which was a newly created country i think originally it was what a 99 year um

00:30:58.680 uh basically where we controlled the land for 99 years but if i recall the administration of the

00:31:07.160 panama canal was supposed to be with the united states in perpetuity right well uh if that is the

00:31:13.440 case then the panamanians have have have gone back on that agreement by letting the chinese of all of

00:31:20.560 all people control both both the pacific and the caribbean side of the of the panama canal

00:31:26.760 um president trump's absolutely right we need that to ferry military vessels from to and fro

00:31:33.060 as opposed to having to go all the way down the straits of magellan and the and the passage of

00:31:37.240 drake's passage um which uh is is it's not so much as hazardous as it used to be when we had

00:31:43.880 sailing ships but still takes some time to do that so and as well as our commerce so uh and then

00:31:50.980 they've jacked the prices up outrageously for you know for us to use the canal that we built ourselves

00:31:56.260 right so president trump's i do believe he's got something there and um and i think this is a

00:32:02.460 warning shot the president's sending to the panamanians that hey um you know it's it's time

00:32:07.840 uh to stop dealing with letting the chinese uh you know run the rules now obviously the chinese are

00:32:13.140 pumping money into panama to do this the bell and roads whole thing with the chinese they're doing

00:32:18.440 these infrastructure jobs all over the all over the world to gain influence and then ultimately

00:32:23.360 give these loans and then control these countries to make sure especially in the un where they're not

00:32:29.580 going to speak up with whatever china wants to do because they're they're beholding to the chinese

00:32:34.400 interests that that have helped them out with the infrastructure capabilities in in these countries so

00:32:39.900 china is literally at our doorstep right now and and they're and they're going in they're controlling

00:32:46.840 a capability first of all we built it we paid for it um yeah i mean i've got my sweater on because

00:32:54.960 you know we've got 12 inches of snow out there and in order that ain't here uh you guys normally you

00:32:59.840 guys get the snow not us down here this time we got whacked with the snow but but um but in honor of

00:33:06.400 uh what president clinton you know i've got my sweater on here so but it's um president trump's

00:33:12.500 absolutely right you know we i i think he understands that we need to negotiate uh some kind of an

00:33:18.260 agreement to kick the daggone chinese out of there and and make sure that that we we're guaranteed the

00:33:25.620 control of that thing so because it you know i'm i don't you know sort of like the monroe doctrine you

00:33:31.780 know this this thing is in our hemisphere and it's very important to national security in this country

00:33:36.060 country so you know as far as going down there with the military and you know i don't know sending

00:33:40.680 in the the 82nd or 101st airborne i i doubt he'd do that but uh you know you know how president trump

00:33:47.520 is he knows how to negotiate and uh the first shot for president trump is to throw something out there

00:33:53.640 that that's kind of sometimes outrageous that people go oh crap man we got president trump to deal with

00:33:59.220 and he does he doesn't man doesn't fool around you know so i think i think the man is is reading his

00:34:07.340 own book on knowing negotiations and the the power of the of the deal and and he's he's he's setting up

00:34:13.300 the deal i gotta be honest i mean there's so many people i'd rather deal with than president trump if i

00:34:18.080 were an adversary or on the other side i mean look what he did to justin trudeau in canada he embarrassed

00:34:24.460 the man out of his job i mean who else can do that um but i you know i he's he's a tough negotiator

00:34:31.220 he's a tough guy um so i feel bad for whoever has to deal with him and i don't think he's going to use

00:34:37.880 force on anything because he probably won't have to he's got his way to uh to cripple people uh with

00:34:42.980 just words it's uh it's going to be interesting to see what he can do with uh something like uh tariffs

00:34:48.380 russ we're going to take one more quick break here uh when we return i want to take up uh just

00:34:53.520 under two weeks to go before he returns to office and takes the oval again about some of his agencies

00:34:59.560 that he has to staff and some of these folks uh who are going to be taking over these agencies and

00:35:04.860 will they be ready to hit the ground running we're talking with russ tice former senior nsa intel

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00:36:19.720 slash john for all your discounts on all my pillow products uh russ president trump like i said under two

00:36:26.500 weeks till he heads back to the oval he's got a lot of work to do um he's got some new people he's

00:36:32.880 testing out for agencies mike waltz over at cia cash patel over in the fbi uh tulsi gabbard all folks

00:36:40.440 who have never held positions like this before um a lot of people worried about these folks not being

00:36:46.120 able to hit the ground running uh particularly the nsc the nsa what's your take uh on who he's got

00:36:54.100 to run these agencies um and the issues they face now heading into january 20th

00:37:00.720 well when president trump was president trump uh 45 uh you know he was he was uh given a list of

00:37:09.880 folks who were supposed to be very competent in these positions um and most of them you know they

00:37:16.660 had impressive resumes uh but they all had not all had daggers in their hands with was president

00:37:22.920 trump's name on the dagger so in other words there was no loyalty there at all i mean you had

00:37:30.000 general milley saying he was going to give uh in the chinese any information that president trump was

00:37:35.080 going to do as far as orders to the military to me the word for that's treason um so uh it looks to me

00:37:44.320 like president trump is picking people that that will be loyal and will will work to uh you know

00:37:50.420 affect his his policy which is the way it's supposed to be you know even if you have an agreement a

00:37:56.320 disagreement with an issue or two with the president he was voted in this president not not the person

00:38:04.380 that's you know that's being put into a policy position um and your job is to if you if you're

00:38:10.760 asked your opinion you give your opinion the president hears that i hear i hear president

00:38:14.980 trump is very good at asking all the different folks that that uh that he has underneath of them

00:38:20.460 their opinion and his job as president is to make a decision once that decision is made it's your job

00:38:28.060 as his lieutenant to run with that decision uh and if it's so egregious that that you have such a

00:38:35.740 problem with the whatever the president's doing then you resign that's simple you know

00:38:40.680 but you don't you don't get a dagger in your hand and and smile and you know and and kiss his ring

00:38:46.900 and while you're kissing the ring you're reaching behind his back to put the dagger on his back

00:38:50.460 yeah so now that said some of these folks they they don't have uh extensive or strong backgrounds

00:39:00.260 in in the fields that they're even put in now then that that may be true right but the key

00:39:06.820 there is to find the right people to support those directors of those different agencies

00:39:12.780 and those organizations to be able to to to let them know what's going on and make i know in the

00:39:20.820 intelligence field they will give you you know their job is all heck four years or we can blow

00:39:25.920 we can blow smoke up someone's caboose for four years and just give them a lot of glitz and bells

00:39:31.560 and whistles and they won't know they won't have a clue what's going on or know what to ask you got

00:39:37.260 to have the right people to know what to ask and tell the director or madam director you know that

00:39:43.240 that these things are out there they're they're they're trying to mislead you and this is how to uh

00:39:48.680 to make sure that uh the the president's mandate is being uh adhered to um and ultimately the people

00:39:57.160 that are blowing smoke need to um to be fired frankly so you mentioned a matter madam for uh so

00:40:03.400 i wanted while you have it on the topic to talk about uh tulsi gabbard do you think tulsi gabbard

00:40:09.300 and i love tulsi gabbard i think she was an excellent choice for the job do you think tulsi gabbard is

00:40:14.540 going to be able to hit the ground running and get in there and start cleaning up some of this rot

00:40:18.740 and corruption um or do you think she's going to fall prey to like you said the shiny objects

00:40:23.700 well you know i love how i love how she took down um um miss harris when she when they were

00:40:33.680 having a presidential debate that was right i mean that was that was so sweet to watch it was

00:40:38.680 it was like slicing it was like a shoot a sue fest slicing someone up right in front of you um

00:40:46.220 um but that said she's she's going to need help right um and if she has the right people you know

00:40:54.040 you know uh helping her guide through the the mirad the through the labyrinth and then believe me the

00:40:59.920 intel community is quite a labyrinth um i think she'll do fine um you know her and she's a she's loyal

00:41:07.260 to the cause she's obviously came from the democrats and realized what the democrats were and

00:41:14.180 and and then migrated to to become a republican and and i think she'll be a fine uh director

00:41:20.820 she just needs to have uh you know the right people that are there that know where the know

00:41:26.760 where the skeletons are in the closet and and make and can make sure when someone's trying to blow smoke

00:41:30.920 that that uh they can whisper in her ear this is nonsense and they're trying to mislead you

00:41:36.200 yeah and as you pointed out uh the uh the folks president trump had in his first administration

00:41:42.000 so many of them were smoke blowers mark milley treasonous uh and i hope to see uh some of

00:41:48.160 these people you also often hear the word retribution um they don't need retribution they need to be

00:41:54.260 disciplined uh for what mark milley did when it came to china i mean that's treason espionage i mean you

00:42:01.700 you call it what you want it the guys committed crimes um and i don't think we should let these

00:42:06.900 people get off scot-free they broke the law uh they need to answer some questions just like as i said

00:42:12.680 on the top of the show uh one merchant some of these folks who have prosecuted and persecuted

00:42:18.160 valentine trump need to stick around for a little bit and and answer some questions that we all have

00:42:23.560 uh they had no problem spending my estimate is over a hundred million dollars between the muller

00:42:29.300 investigation the jack smith witch hunt um who pays for that russ i you know i think these folks

00:42:34.940 better stay around uh and get ready to answer some questions i want to speak enough questions

00:42:39.500 uh take a few that we have here um i don't think i should say the people's name on air just uh

00:42:45.660 so they don't uh you know no retribution is against them for watching this show we'll just go with the

00:42:52.560 question uh what was your motivation on blowing the act on uh blowing the whistle on the patriot act

00:42:59.560 hmm well i sort of fell into that it wasn't it wasn't something i decided to be a hero um

00:43:07.700 it was at the end of the uh the the war um the statue came down in the square there in uh in baghdad

00:43:17.080 and i had a whole list of things that i wanted to do that i put in my to-do list because i was working

00:43:21.780 16 hours a day and uh my boss you know said i said hey i don't need to work 16 hours a day he said

00:43:28.200 the director said we're going to work 16 hours a day until i said fine so i like anybody i got my

00:43:33.440 to-do list out started doing the things that i put in the in the background and then one of them

00:43:40.100 was the fact that um one of the missions i was working on with the war i had to get coverage on

00:43:48.120 something and i can't say what but it had to do with space capabilities and then when i contacted

00:43:55.620 the right people to get the information i i said look i need this and i need to make sure that you

00:44:01.500 know we're not going to to to step on on our own toes or or violate our our rules and make sure

00:44:08.480 americans aren't caught up in this and my response back was oh don't worry russ we're we got this

00:44:14.600 thing aren't clad aren't clad means 24 7 365 everything um all the time and i'm like i mean you mean

00:44:23.940 everything and they said yeah everything and so so in other words there's no problem me getting what

00:44:29.320 i wanted but that meant that all american communications were being caught up in this as

00:44:34.340 well interesting i contacted the right people because i have sources all over the intelligence

00:44:40.440 service inside nsa and they came back and they said russ believe me it's much worse than that it's

00:44:47.380 also the terrestrial uh capabilities most of the most of the communications within our country is

00:44:52.620 done by fiber optics and and or microwave and nsa tapped into all of it and they were collecting

00:44:59.360 everything especially metadata for every single u.s citizen in this country and that's when i went oh

00:45:05.440 my gosh it was like getting hit with a brick in the head boop um at that point and soon right after

00:45:12.540 that when i called the the site to find out a little bit more i think the security people at nsa

00:45:19.540 were listening in and they they found they realized that i had found out what they've done violated the

00:45:25.360 constitution the law nsa's own regulations and they they sent me in for an emergency psychological

00:45:31.660 evaluation to say that i was crazy oh boy even though i just had one nine months previous which i passed

00:45:40.420 with flying collars like all the rest of them i've ever had so now now all of a sudden i'm psycho crazy

00:45:45.240 um oh boy so that's ultimately and matter of fact the final straw was because you know and this was

00:45:53.840 all with general hayden and you know i was you know this battle was with hayden um and you know i i don't

00:46:00.120 think very highly of general hayden you know so it was a february in 2004 uh they put me in the gas

00:46:08.360 shack of all things this was this was my punishment they suspend my clearance they put me in the gas

00:46:13.060 my job is to go take government vehicles and and and and fill them up with gasoline or have

00:46:18.080 maintenance done on them so this is my punishment i'm supposed to i'm supposed to grovel for a while

00:46:23.380 keep my mouth shut and maybe they'll let me have my my big time job back again i'm just not a

00:46:29.300 growler i couldn't do it and then there was a february day where we had snow just like you know we got

00:46:34.720 a foot of snow out there right now i don't think that february was that much snow it might have been

00:46:39.920 i don't know six inches of snow or something and they wanted me to go wipe the snow off of like 200

00:46:45.400 vehicles goodness and i i blew up and then i i uh i went right to the press so it's um at that point

00:46:53.200 you know as that was my the straw that broke the camel's back because we're bantering back and forth

00:46:58.700 about what's going on and i wanted to talk to the to the head of security and then i realized that

00:47:04.380 he didn't know he was just told to to uh to retaliate against me um i didn't know that i didn't

00:47:11.120 know that the president united states was involved in this you know i just knew that this had to

00:47:15.240 involve the director um that was george bush at the time right george w george w bush yeah and of

00:47:21.440 course you know i wonder what would happen if it never snowed that day russ and they didn't tell

00:47:27.560 you to go clean off the cars i'd like to believe that i would have come to and look at myself in

00:47:32.740 the mirror and would have said i i would have come to that conclusion anyhow but but sadly that the

00:47:38.280 catalyst was that damn that february day in 2004 um when when they when i blew my top and i just told

00:47:46.700 them i'm taking a snow day and i immediately uh contacted the press that day although believe me

00:47:51.660 it was hard it was hard as hell trying to find the right people to talk to in the press right i wish you

00:47:57.080 would have reached out to ludovs back then because uh lou would have been happy to help you out i

00:48:01.280 think uh we're going to take one more question here we're coming up on a hard out uh for everyone

00:48:06.180 watching on patriot tv they only give us an hour here of time so we've got to keep it tight with them

00:48:11.580 um the question and this one coming from twitter do you see yourself maybe working in this trump

00:48:18.740 administration would you be interested in doing so if i get called i i will i will heed the call

00:48:26.740 and i would help them out especially if they need help with the intelligence community um

00:48:32.060 uh because i kind of think uh you know future uh madam director um cavern is going to need some help

00:48:39.400 um if i get the call and and i i'm i'm heck i'm right down there you know just north of dc as it is so

00:48:46.440 it's not like i'd have to relocate um i will serve if if they feel that that they need my help

00:48:53.080 it's of course it's up to them i think you'd be a great addition to any administration uh let alone

00:49:00.000 this one who i think is going to do great uh great things in this in this uh next four years

00:49:06.020 um you know we're looking back at the last four years of what we're on it can't be any worse uh but

00:49:13.060 i don't even look at it that way because president trump has so much in mind for this country and for

00:49:17.860 our agencies and for the direction moving forward um and he hasn't even taken office yet and things

00:49:24.220 are already starting to feel different this christmas russ felt like one that you know of one in

00:49:30.460 2016 and 2017 when president trump was in where you can go with say merry christmas people seemed

00:49:35.620 happier people were spending money uh there was cheer there was joy uh i spent a christmas eve

00:49:42.320 at a at an uncle's house out in long island among some um far left liberals and i try not to talk

00:49:48.480 politics because i don't like to hurt anyone's feelings um because i get a little temperamental

00:49:53.000 and you know start to use a little profanity which people don't like on the show so i've tried to stop

00:49:57.500 and that's my new year's resolution to stop cursing on the show but uh you know it it comes to me and

00:50:03.800 even among the liberals uh you know at the the christmas eve dinner table they didn't have much to say

00:50:09.680 and i think there's a sense of uh defeat russ and uh acceptance that president trump is here

00:50:15.840 and he's here to make america great again russ happy new year i hope you had a great christmas

00:50:21.620 just hang tight for a second here as we wrap up the show uh folks i want to thank you all for joining

00:50:26.440 us today on this live edition of the great america show please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for

00:50:31.580 the great america show where our quest for truth justice and the american way continues folks

00:50:36.780 we'll see you back here tomorrow same time same place until then may god bless you

00:50:42.240 may god bless america and may god bless the great lou dobbs

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