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00:01:18.340 Hello everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Saturday show. Great to have you

00:01:23.700 with us and we have something of a treat. There's a lot going on in the world right now. Two major

00:01:28.720 conflicts abroad with Russia and Ukraine, Israel and Hamas, the aggression of China and of course

00:01:34.700 Iran. Our economy is in serious decline. We have a national debt now that stands at $34 trillion. 0.75

00:01:42.260 It's incredible. But even more incredible, in four years, our national debt at this current rate will

00:01:49.480 be $50 trillion. We have a wide open southern border that Joe Biden turned over to the Mexican

00:01:55.520 drug cartels when he took the oath of office. With record numbers of illegal immigrants and record 0.57

00:02:01.800 amounts of deadly drugs pouring into the United States. And the Marxist stems and deep state

00:02:07.760 persecution of President Trump is now in its ninth year. They're doing absolutely everything they can

00:02:15.040 in alliance with the deep state to interfere in the 2024 presidential election. I recently sat down

00:02:23.660 with President Trump to take up all of these issues. The man who is dominating all of the primary

00:02:29.660 polls, all of the national polls. And he is in the fight of his life trying to save the republic

00:02:36.120 and to win back the presidency that is rightfully his. Here's our conversation with President Trump

00:02:42.980 at Mar-a-Lago.

00:02:50.080 Mr. President, it's great to see you. And we're now in the eighth year of the political persecution

00:02:55.680 of President Donald J. Trump. You are taking incoming every day from the legal system, the Marxist Dems. 0.52

00:03:02.500 President Trump. Give us a sense of how you feel right now and what your sense is of this country

00:03:08.680 that will permit such an outrage.

00:03:11.300 So I don't think there's ever been a time like this. I think we're very close to

00:03:15.500 being at the end of our country as we knew it. A great country. It's Marxist. It's fascist. It's

00:03:23.420 communist. It's what they're doing is incredible. What they've done with weaponization of DOJ, FBI,

00:03:28.620 and others, all sort of reporting up if it's a local DA or an attorney general, a state attorney

00:03:36.660 general. I think it's a very dangerous time. The hope is 2024, because if we win, we're going to get

00:03:43.880 that straightened out so fast because it's all people. It's the people from the top. It's a very

00:03:49.860 dangerous time for our country. I really believe that. Then we have the wall where millions and

00:03:53.840 millions of people are pouring into our country. We have the most incompetent president we've ever 0.98

00:03:58.620 had, has no idea what's going on in the world, has no respect from the world. And numerous countries 0.64

00:04:04.480 are coming up with nuclear weapons, which is the real global warming threat. Not the ocean will rise

00:04:09.640 over the next 400 years by an eighth of an inch. And I think the country's in trouble. I think it's the

00:04:16.720 most dangerous time in the history of our country. And a lot of that is weaponization. But a lot of

00:04:22.420 that is a real lot of that is nuclear weapons. I think that we were respected with me. We had

00:04:28.220 tremendous control of things. Iran was behaving because they didn't have the money. Now they have 0.55

00:04:35.000 tremendous money. I mean, they were broke. Now they have tremendous money. They've gained in the last three

00:04:39.720 years, hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth. I told China that if you buy, you're not going to do

00:04:46.220 business with the United States. I told India, I told a lot, you buy, you do no business with the 1.00

00:04:50.640 United States. And we were dealing with Iran and it was fine. It was actually very good. If you 1.00

00:04:57.020 remember, there was no money going to Hamas. There was no money going to Hezbollah. There were stories

00:05:02.480 about it because they didn't have any money. Now they have billions and billions of dollars,

00:05:07.980 probably 127 billion, not including the $6 billion that you read about for the hostage swap.

00:05:15.540 Another great deal, $6 billion for the hostages. So I think the country's in the greatest danger it's

00:05:22.300 ever been. And to a large extent, a big portion of that would be because we have a leader that

00:05:28.140 doesn't know what to do. You know, you say that this president is weak. You say that he is the

00:05:36.140 issue. And so many people in the national left-wing corporate media are talking about why the rest of

00:05:42.720 the world does not respect them. There is no policy that he has offered up that I perceive, at least,

00:05:50.280 as being pro-America. The policies are Marxist in nearly every respect, whether it is

00:05:58.120 to do. It has to do with the American family, whether it has to do with sovereignty, border

00:06:02.700 security, illegal immigration, foreign policy. You had created a modest foreign policy, bringing

00:06:09.180 home our troops, withdrawing troops from foreign lands, and about a hundred of them, we have troops

00:06:15.780 now. How does that make you feel to see that reversal of your policies that were creating such

00:06:22.460 a great response on the part of the global, global nations?

00:06:27.920 So I was bringing them home, but also bringing them home from countries that don't even like us. 1.00

00:06:33.220 We're, we're protecting countries that took advantage of us and hate us in many cases.

00:06:39.000 When you look at Afghanistan, the withdrawal, that was a big moment, because I believe it was the most 0.89

00:06:44.480 incompetent and embarrassing time in the history of our country. The way we withdrew, not the withdrawing,

00:06:50.500 because I was withdrawing too, but we were going to do it with great strength and dignity.

00:06:55.060 I believe that the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the way they did it, leaving $85 billion worth of

00:07:01.880 equipment, $85 billion, think of it, behind. The best equipment in the world, leaving it behind.

00:07:08.160 I don't know if you know this, that the Taliban in Afghanistan, Afghanistan now is one of the top 1.00

00:07:15.980 three traders in military equipment, because they don't need 700,000 guns and rifles. They don't need

00:07:23.420 70,000 vehicles, many of them armor-plated. They don't need tanks and all of the things that we left.

00:07:29.200 We left behind $85 billion worth of equipment, the best military equipment in the world. But most importantly,

00:07:35.920 13 soldiers dead, 38 soldiers horribly wounded, and hundreds of people killed.

00:07:42.580 And it should have been nothing. And we took the soldiers out. We took our military out before we

00:07:48.880 took our American hostages. You have people over there. You have still hundreds of Americans over

00:07:55.660 there that haven't been able to get out. We should have taken everything out. And then you take your

00:08:00.180 money. You could ask a child, when would you take the military out? Five years old, he'd say,

00:08:04.800 you take the military out last. We took the military out first. So we were going to get out with 0.99

00:08:09.980 dignity and strength. And we lost Bagram. Bagram was one of the biggest airfields in the world.

00:08:15.360 And most importantly, not because of Afghanistan, but because of China. It's one hour away from where 0.90

00:08:19.900 China makes their nuclear weapons. And to have that would have been incredible. I was never leaving 0.98

00:08:25.240 there. We're going to keep that. And they fled. They really surrendered. The whole thing was just like,

00:08:31.020 I think it was the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.

00:08:34.440 And Putin would have never gone into Ukraine anyway. But when he saw that,

00:08:39.640 he said, this is the time to move because these people are incompetent.

00:08:44.120 And as you know, President Xi is talking about Taiwan and lots of things. We just were not respected

00:08:50.440 at all. And three years ago, we were greatly respected. And three years ago, we were energy

00:08:55.440 independent. And you had gasoline selling for less than $2. And now you have it at five, six,

00:09:02.620 seven and even $8 a gallon. And it's what's happened to our country. And truly, one of the

00:09:10.380 worst things is when you have millions and millions. I know this. I've been your friend and I've been

00:09:15.240 your your watcher. I would watch you all the time. And I still do it whenever I can. But I know you

00:09:21.200 very well. It must just drive you crazy when you see millions of people coming into our country 1.00

00:09:25.900 and totally unchecked from jails, from mental institutions, terrorists. We're going to be

00:09:33.100 paying a big price. We're going to do big deportation, by the way, which will make you feel

00:09:36.720 slightly better. But they're coming in from the prisons all over the world. This isn't just in

00:09:43.080 South America, all over Africa, in the Congo. They the other day, people released from prisons in the

00:09:51.600 Congo. In fact, some of these people make our prisoners look like very nice people.

00:09:57.300 We have people in our country now that shouldn't be in our country. Millions of people are being 1.00

00:10:04.220 are walking just just walking through our country right now as we speak. They have the largest caravan

00:10:10.480 of people and they might came up with. And we stopped the caravans pretty quickly. But they have

00:10:16.720 the largest caravan anyone seen. And it's pouring in through Mexico, heading up to our country.

00:10:23.020 10 million, an estimated 10 million illegal immigrants just since Joe Biden

00:10:27.700 took the Oval Office. That is extraordinary by any measure. Yet there is no discussion amongst the

00:10:36.100 business elites, the global business elites, no discussion from social critics and academia,

00:10:41.620 our universities and colleges, nor our trading partners and military allies. It is an extraordinary

00:10:51.560 development that no one could have imagined an American president inviting, which is exactly what

00:10:57.920 this president has done. He did. He did. He said, come on now at the beginning. So I said, don't come up

00:11:03.440 because you're not getting through and people wouldn't come up. They say, and I built the wall,

00:11:07.960 I built 561 miles of wall, which is a big thing. You know, they said, oh, it's 50. Well, it's not 50

00:11:13.420 by any, but they say, oh, it's 50. Like this dope Chris Christie said, oh, it's 50 miles. Now it's way

00:11:19.660 over 500, it's 561. And we had another 200 ready to go. We actually built it. And all we had to do is

00:11:25.720 install it. Could have been up in about three weeks and they wouldn't put it up. That's when I realized

00:11:30.860 they actually wanted open borders, but the wall was great. And we also had Mexico paying for their

00:11:36.500 soldiers. You know, we had 28,000 Mexican soldiers on our border and they paid for it free of charge. 0.97

00:11:43.280 It was a nice gift, but not easy to get. I had to say things that, you know, you don't want to really

00:11:49.160 say, like we're going to tariff your product if you don't put them there. So we had the best numbers

00:11:53.400 we've ever had. And now we have the worst numbers. I think that any country's ever had. I don't think

00:11:58.400 any country's ever had numbers like this. I don't care if it's third world or not. We have the worst

00:12:03.660 numbers we've ever had. Three years ago, we had the best numbers we've ever had. And that included

00:12:08.200 not only people coming in, it included drugs, human trafficking. We had the best numbers at

00:12:14.060 everything, almost every category that we've ever had. And now we have the worst numbers.

00:12:19.400 The worst numbers and the numbers don't even express the dire circumstances that this country faces.

00:12:26.600 Fentanyl, 100,000 deaths a year. Child trafficking. Health and Human Services can't find, can't track

00:12:35.920 over 80,000 children that have crossed that border. China is a partner with Mexico and their drug cartels.

00:12:45.180 And they are responsible for fentanyl and opiates coming from Mexico.

00:12:50.060 They make most of it.

00:12:50.780 And this president, on Wednesday, will be talking with Xi Jinping about a new relationship with a

00:12:58.240 with a power that is expansionary, that is threatening the United States almost every month.

00:13:05.760 Your reaction?

00:13:07.320 Well, the other thing is, remember that until I get indicted, I've been indicted more than Al Capone

00:13:12.780 over complaining about a rigged election, over things that nobody can even believe. You read even

00:13:18.920 these legal scholars. They can't even believe. So they've weaponized the DOJ. But remember this,

00:13:24.140 Biden got money from China. He got money from Ukraine. They got money from many of these countries,

00:13:30.340 but he got millions of dollars from China. And that's what they found. Now, they find that,

00:13:36.320 and it seems very conclusive, obviously. But if they find that, how much money didn't they find?

00:13:41.160 Because it's not easy to find. And I think I think they have him over a barrel, frankly,

00:13:46.720 because nobody can be so weak with China, what they're doing. You know, I took in billions,

00:13:53.460 hundreds of billions of dollars from China, hundreds of billions of dollars. I gave our farmers

00:13:58.260 twenty eight billion dollars because excuse me the language, but they were screwed by China for many 0.88

00:14:04.380 years. And I went to Sonny Perdue, secretary of agriculture. How much is it? They said twenty eight

00:14:10.240 billion dollars. I took it out of the tariffs. I gave it to the farmers. But I took in hundreds of

00:14:14.980 billions of dollars from China. No president ever took in ten cents. It was a one way deal.

00:14:21.640 And I changed things around a lot. A lot of people think that's why we had the China virus,

00:14:26.980 frankly, because they never had a problem like they did with me. But I don't think so. I think

00:14:31.920 it was gross incompetence at the Wuhan lab. That's what I think. I really don't believe. You know,

00:14:36.020 there are those people that said they wanted they would have done anything to get rid of me.

00:14:40.240 I actually had a very good relationship with President Xi. But once

00:14:43.820 once the China virus or COVID came along, it was it was a lot different. But it's so sad to see

00:14:52.960 what's happened to our country in a short period of time. Inflation at a level that we haven't seen

00:15:00.180 in 70 years. You look at what's going on with energy. It's just you look at the lack of respect they have

00:15:07.960 for us. But you just take a look at the lack of respect. The way China talks about our country now,

00:15:14.120 they would never have said that with me. In fact, they had a policy 24 or 25, I guess it was 2025.

00:15:21.320 And I said, you know, I'd appreciate if you take that down because that's very insulting. In other words,

00:15:26.680 that was going to be when they really take over everything economically. You heard that, right? China 2025. 0.51

00:15:33.000 And I said to President Xi, you know, it's a very insulting statement because you're really saying you're

00:15:37.320 going to take over in 2025. And I know you're going to try, but we're going to try to have us keep the lead.

00:15:44.280 And he took everything down. But now I see that you see everything was taken. It was all gone. One

00:15:49.400 conversation was all gone. You know, it's pretty, pretty sad to see. You shut down the Trans-Pacific

00:15:57.880 Partnership involving all of the Pacific powers in Indochina as well. Not China. And you've been

00:16:08.520 roundly criticized over the course of the past year for that, which is a drumbeat by the Biden

00:16:13.640 administration and its supporters in corporate America trying to restore a TPP. And what's your

00:16:25.000 reaction to that after you had killed the original, which in the minds of most would have been

00:16:30.120 devastating? It was a disaster for our country. We would have no automobile business left. You know,

00:16:34.920 we lost about 50% of our auto manufacturing between Canada, Mexico, China, all over the place.

00:16:41.240 If you look at Mexico, the number of automobiles that make it's incredible. The factories, the size of

00:16:45.800 the buildings they're building to make cars, not during my term. But they came in and they just

00:16:52.600 decimated our auto business and the manufacturing. That's why the autoworkers, how could they ever

00:16:59.160 vote for this guy? And this guy was a part of it. What other countries have done to us,

00:17:05.640 and now with this all electric mandate, all of those cars are going to be made in China.

00:17:09.640 They're not going to be made here. They're going to be made in China. The all electric car,

00:17:13.080 they don't go far and they cost too much. You know, it's very simple. Somebody said, well,

00:17:17.240 should we make it more complex? You don't have to. They don't go far and they cost too much.

00:17:22.680 If you want to take a very short trip, it's nice. But if you want to go like beyond the state line

00:17:28.760 without having to get a charge for two and a half hours, it's so crazy what they're doing.

00:17:35.400 They're destroying our country. They're destroying the country. I think a lot of people have that

00:17:40.120 sense. I know about half the population has that sense. Yeah. And there are people in this country,

00:17:46.840 a lot of people, good, strong, healthy families that are fighting against these policies and their

00:17:54.360 effects on middle America. You were the president who made the Republican Party, the party of the

00:18:01.720 working man and woman in this country, the American family. Give us your sense of what you will do to

00:18:09.560 restore primacy to the forgotten men and women of this country who right now are fighting for their

00:18:16.920 economic and their real survival. So let me just say one thing that happened. So the Keystone XL

00:18:23.560 pipeline, it was being built. It was moving along. It was a massive project going all the way down to

00:18:31.080 the Gulf. It was a great project. 48,000 workers. He came in the first day he ended it. And by the way,

00:18:38.360 the head of that union, the pipeline union, people that build pipelines have a union. The head of it

00:18:45.240 endorsed Biden. Now, the workers, I guarantee they mostly voted for me, but they endorsed. And then as

00:18:52.840 soon as he comes in, he got rid of all those jobs and all of the importance of that pipeline. It was

00:18:59.320 such an important thing. But that's just one of so many different things. So what we'll be doing is

00:19:03.320 we'll be drilling. We'll be reducing energy. That'll bring down inflation. That'll bring down

00:19:08.600 interest rates. If you want to buy a home today, you're middle income and you want to go out to a

00:19:12.120 bank. The banks, number one, don't have money. And if they do have money, they're loaning it at nine and

00:19:16.840 ten and eleven percent or not loaning it really at all. We have an economy that's incredible. We have

00:19:24.520 an economy that's so fragile. And the only reason it's running now is it's running off the fumes of

00:19:29.560 what we did, what the Trump administration. It's just running off the fumes. And when there's a crash,

00:19:36.360 I hope it's going to be during this next 12 months because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover. The one

00:19:42.680 president, I just don't want to be Herbert Hoover. But what they've done is incredible. What they're

00:19:49.400 doing with all of this money, the trillions and trillions of dollars of of waste, this Green New 0.94

00:19:56.120 Deal is, you know, it's a the Green New Deal will destroy our country. And I'm an environmentalist more than

00:20:03.560 they are. But when you see the kind of monies that they're throwing around on building infrastructure

00:20:11.000 that's no good, but environmentally friendly on doing windmills all over the place that are the 0.66

00:20:17.960 most, by the way, the most expensive energy in the world, you cannot get more expensive. And now you

00:20:22.920 notice it's all coming down because they're not working. It's not working economically. It doesn't work.

00:20:27.480 It's 20 times more expensive than what we have under our feet. Liquid gold. I call it liquid gold.

00:20:34.520 We have more than any other country. And we'll be using it and we'll be selling it to Europe and

00:20:39.160 we'll be doing a lot of things with it. We were going to sell massive amounts of oil and gas to

00:20:44.760 Europe. They wouldn't have even needed the pipeline. It wouldn't have been able to compete with us.

00:20:51.080 And we're going to make a fortune. We're going to start paying down debt. We owe 34 trillion dollars.

00:20:55.560 We're going to start paying down debt. Everything was going great. In fact, I was all set to do that.

00:20:59.960 And then we got hit with COVID. We had to worry about that. And we did a great job with that,

00:21:04.760 but we never got the credit for that one. I got a credit for a great economy. We had the greatest

00:21:08.600 economy in the history of our country. And I got credit for that, but never for the job. You know,

00:21:13.800 we just this dust came in from China. But even they tried to this day, they try and say it wasn't China,

00:21:21.720 but it was China. It was the Wuhan labs, which I said right from the beginning. But we were going

00:21:27.480 to pay down debt. We're going to reduce taxes further. We gave the largest tax cut in history

00:21:32.680 and we were going to pay down debt further. And we were doing a great job. And then

00:21:37.640 we had a very unfortunate election. Now, I know who you're involved with, so I can say it here,

00:21:43.320 but sometimes they say you'll cut it out. So, you know, what's the purpose? But we had a rigged

00:21:48.120 election. We don't cut anything out. No, you don't. That's what I'm saying. That's why I say it

00:21:51.240 with you. We had a rigged election. It was rigged, 100% rigged. And the question I get most is,

00:21:59.240 number one, how do you take it? And I take it, I guess, because genetically I take it.

00:22:03.640 I think I also take it because we're doing so well. We're leading everybody by so much. So that helps.

00:22:09.640 But the other question I get the most, probably number two, maybe number one sometimes,

00:22:13.880 is how do we stop them from cheating? People ask me, will they do it again, sir? Because,

00:22:21.240 you know, I'm in Florida now and I drive to various locations and airports and places.

00:22:26.840 Every house has a Trump sign on Trump 2024. We got all the votes we need. The risk is what's

00:22:34.120 going to happen during election period used to be election day or election night. They say election

00:22:39.400 night. But today you don't have that. You have 60 days, 40 days, 30 days. You have some states where

00:22:46.040 they have eight days to count the vote after the election is over. How do you have an election when

00:22:51.560 you have to count the vote for? And, you know, the machines are supposed to speed up the process,

00:22:56.200 right? We ought to go to all paper, all paper. You know, they have now watermark paper. It's

00:23:02.280 incredible what you can do with paper. But we go all paper, same day voting and voter ID, a little

00:23:09.000 thing like voter idea. The Democrats are violently against voter ID because it will make it very hard

00:23:14.440 for them to cheat. Can you imagine somebody saying we don't want voter ID? You know?

00:23:19.640 Well, I know who does. And those are the Democrats. And they do for the very reason you're intimating.

00:23:25.400 Yeah. They cheated in 2020. They cheated in 2022. Those are statements of fact. Somebody can

00:23:33.640 dispute them, but the facts are straightforward. And one of the things that I've always found

00:23:39.960 interesting is no one wants to say to you, re-litigate 2020. The fact is that this country

00:23:46.760 doesn't come to its senses about how deceitful and crooked these elections are. And I'm talking

00:23:54.040 about from the local to the presidential offices. We're going to have real problems. What I don't

00:24:01.480 see from the Republican Party is a response. I don't see Ronna McDaniel and the NRC.

00:24:09.800 I agree with you. Going after it. What would you like to see here? I know you've got

00:24:15.960 more than a full plate. You're being assailed from every quarter. But what would you like to see the

00:24:21.400 Republican Party for which you are the titular head do? So when I won in 2016, I won. I went home

00:24:30.440 and I watched. I did my thing. I did seven rallies on the final day, maybe seven rows in the two final

00:24:35.640 days, seven and seven. And not a lot of people can do that. And they were full, big, beautiful rallies

00:24:41.400 started in Florida, ended up in Iowa. One was 82 degrees. One was three degrees below zero. It's called

00:24:47.960 pneumonia weather, right? That's beautiful because you go from that difference. But we did a great

00:24:53.320 thing. And I went home and I watched. I watched the election and I won the election. I never thought

00:24:58.920 I'd have to watch votes. You know, that's supposed to be done by states, really, for the federal

00:25:05.720 government, but it's supposed to be done by states. So we're supposed to have people watching it within

00:25:09.240 the party. And they said they'll never let that happen again. And I was hearing those statements. I said,

00:25:14.840 that's a weird statement, right? And they cheated and they cheated at every different level in many

00:25:20.360 different ways. And we have it all documented. We have so much documented. It's not even,

00:25:24.360 even if you didn't want to get into the fact like 2000 mules where they, you know, you have them on

00:25:28.840 camera stuffing the ballot boxes. Okay. How much, and they're all federal cameras. You know, this is all

00:25:34.120 federal and many of the cameras were missing, but they have hundreds of thousands of votes even at that.

00:25:39.080 But don't even get into that. Don't get in when you see workers stuffing boxes with cameras, federal cameras.

00:25:47.000 Go into the 51 intelligence agents where they said the laptop from hell, which exposed tremendous crime,

00:25:56.280 was Russian disinformation. They all knew it was. It was cheating. That was cheating.

00:26:01.320 Go into all of the different legislatures where they didn't get approval to do all the stuff that they did.

00:26:07.000 They had to get it from the legislatures and they didn't. If you look at Wisconsin now,

00:26:11.400 Wisconsin is essentially admitted that I won. I won the election up there.

00:26:17.480 But they have a clause somewhere in some document, but you can't do anything after 30 days. You know,

00:26:21.880 it's really think of it. It's sick. They catch you cheating on the election. You're not able to,

00:26:26.840 you're not able to do anything if you don't catch them. The Republicans do not fight the same way.

00:26:32.120 They don't fight dirty. And I don't say anybody should fight dirty, but you got to fight smart.

00:26:37.400 And they seem not to, you know, we have guys like Mitch McConnell. It's just like it's hopeless.

00:26:44.280 But we have great people now watching. And I tell them, I said, don't help me during the next

00:26:49.880 period of time. Don't help me at all during the next year. I get all the votes. We're getting more

00:26:54.200 votes than you need. Just watch that election period. Secure the vote, really, because they

00:27:00.040 don't secure the vote. And if they don't secure the vote, bad things can happen. Now, we have some

00:27:05.880 very good people because now I'm involved in that. Who thought you would have had to be involved? I

00:27:09.400 thought I'd campaign. I go home and I see what happens. But I campaigned. I went home. And then

00:27:14.280 all of a sudden I see it looks like Pennsylvania is going to be ours by a lot. And then at 302 or

00:27:19.480 whatever it was in the morning, all of a sudden they're finding all sorts of stuff. And look what's

00:27:24.360 happened to our country because of it. It's a different country. This is a different country

00:27:28.840 than it was three years ago. It's a country that's no longer respected. It's a company, a country that

00:27:35.880 our energy is a disaster. Think of it. We have more than anybody else. And we are paying

00:27:40.920 the highest prices. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. Our energy, if we bring that down to where it

00:27:46.360 should be, will reduce inflation. You have to get it back where they say, well, we're only at 4% now.

00:27:53.240 But it's 4% over the biggest increase in history. So people are being absolutely killed.

00:27:59.240 It's very interesting if you go back and study inflation. Inflation is a country buster.

00:28:05.000 You can go back years ago, many years ago in Germany where they had big inflation, destroyed the country. 0.87

00:28:11.080 It destroys countries. And it, along with many other things, are destroying this country. But we

00:28:16.920 have so many things. The border, millions and millions of people coming in. You can go, there's

00:28:23.000 not one thing in this country now that works that's good. I mean, you can't say, well, he's good at this

00:28:29.000 or he's good at that. Everything is bad. The inflation is horrible. Everything is bad. There's nothing that you

00:28:35.960 can say. Well, except he did a great job here. He didn't do a great job in anything. You go through

00:28:40.920 the 10 or 12 major things. Every one of them is a disaster. And we have to change it or we're not

00:28:47.000 going to have a country left. Much of the country, I think more than half of the country, certainly

00:28:53.320 wants you to be the president elected in 2024. How confident are you that you can win

00:29:00.520 and overcome all that you must, indictments, the full array of the federal government against you,

00:29:09.560 whether it's the federal get out the vote executive action taken by President Biden three months after

00:29:15.960 he was in office. He meant to weaponize the government from the very beginning. And you've

00:29:21.800 got a party that is right now working against itself, whether it's in the House of Representatives,

00:29:28.920 whether it is a number of lesser known personalities. I'll put it that way.

00:29:34.760 Well, even having to be the nominee, even having debates, I'm up 64 points and having debates

00:29:42.520 and they hit me at the debate. So they're mostly they're hitting each other. But the party should

00:29:47.720 be unified. The party shouldn't be having debates. You know, you have a 64 point lead.

00:29:51.720 The weaponization is interesting because the people get it. And, you know, I have a big platform.

00:29:58.200 I can talk to people like you. I can talk to others. And when you explain it, they understand. And my

00:30:03.400 numbers have gone up. I don't think my numbers would be anywhere near who would think this is possible.

00:30:09.000 Think of it. You get indicted on ridiculous stuff, along with other people that were very decent

00:30:16.760 people. You see some of the people. These are high quality, wonderful people. They've been,

00:30:20.840 you know, they want to destroy these people. But you get indicted. You explain it to the public and

00:30:26.600 your your vote goes up. That's never happened before. If you get indicted, normally you go to the

00:30:32.120 microphone, you announce you're retiring. You want to spend more time with your family. You know,

00:30:36.520 it's the standard phrases that they use. And you want to clear your name. My numbers have gone

00:30:41.560 through the roof because people see it's a hoax. Just like Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax. You 0.78

00:30:46.840 were the first one to see that you were a small group of people knew the Russia, Russia, Russia

00:30:52.680 thing was a hoax. And if we had a strong attorney general instead of a man that was petrified,

00:31:00.520 he would have done something about it. Maybe you can still do something about it. You know,

00:31:04.200 you do have a six year statute of limitations. But Barr was a coward. He didn't have the courage to do 0.99

00:31:09.960 what he should have done. When they said they were going to impeach him, he became a marshmallow,

00:31:17.080 a big marshmallow. And he became weak. He was petrified. He didn't want to be impeached. I said,

00:31:24.280 I got impeached twice and my numbers went up. You remember that? I got impeached twice and my numbers

00:31:28.520 went up. So I'm a little inverse from people. But he was petrified of doing it. Now, how don't your

00:31:34.440 numbers and how don't you get in trouble with the other party, which say what you want about them,

00:31:42.680 they could keep their Congress nice and easy. They always got 100 percent. Did you ever see a

00:31:46.600 negative vote? They always got 100 percent. So they could impeach me. And I had 100 percent of

00:31:51.880 the Republican Party, but they had a slight majority right in the House. So Nancy Pelosi is a crazy, 1.00

00:31:57.560 horrible person, actually. She impeached me over nothing. She impeached me where I was right. 1.00

00:32:03.240 Because if you look at the Ukraine thing, I turned out to be right. The laptop says, 1.00

00:32:07.240 in fact, when they saw the laptop, they said the laptop proved that Trump was 100 percent right.

00:32:12.600 That should have never been indicted. The other should have never been. So they impeached. They

00:32:16.680 indicted me four times. Al Capone was only indicted. Al Capone was the greatest of them all in terms of the

00:32:23.240 gangsters, right? Scarface. He was indicted once. I was indicted four times. But the good news,

00:32:29.560 it's over nothing. It's I call them the Biden indictments. What they've done is they will they

00:32:34.600 go after their political opponent. That's a precedent. It's like the precedent of giving six billion dollars

00:32:42.040 to Iran for releasing five people. And that's a bad precedent because now all of a sudden you can see

00:32:49.480 a lot of people missing. I never paid anything. You know, we let out we got out 58 hostages. I

00:32:55.720 never paid 10 cents. Never. Because once you pay, the precedent is bad. The precedent on doing what

00:33:03.240 they did with the with using the weaponization, using the DOJ, the FBI to go after the political

00:33:09.880 opponent. That is so bad because that means that I can do it, too. In other words, the Pandora's box is

00:33:15.640 open. And that means that I can do it, too. And I don't want to do it. But they've opened something

00:33:21.800 that's never been opened in this country. It's been opened and done in third world countries

00:33:26.280 pretty effectively, but it's never banana republics. But it's never been done in this country and

00:33:33.080 certainly never like this. And the people get it. We have to win in 2024. If we don't win in 2024,

00:33:40.520 we have not got a country anymore. I really believe that. I know you believe it. I know you believe it.

00:33:44.760 Probably even more strongly than me. But if we don't win, this is the most important election

00:33:49.480 we've ever had. I used to go around saying 2016 was the most important and it was at the time.

00:33:55.960 I thought it was the most important because we were heading in the wrong direction.

00:33:59.240 And it was important, but nothing compared to what we have now. If we don't win this election,

00:34:05.480 I really believe this country is done. I think millions and millions of Americans agree with you.

00:34:12.520 And as you correctly said, I believe exactly that myself.

00:34:17.640 I'd like to close on an optimistic note. And if you would, give us a sense of what you would do

00:34:24.920 in terms of ending the hostilities, the war between Ukraine and Russia, what you would do

00:34:32.200 to support Israel, to make certain that they don't have to live with terror every minute of every day

00:34:39.640 of their existence. I have to say, before I even start to give you that answer, which is very doable,

00:34:47.960 by the way. But it was a lot better in the old days when I was there because it would have never

00:34:53.400 happened. Ukraine would have never been invaded and Russia would not have done that. And Putin

00:34:59.960 and I had a very good relationship and I have with Zelensky a very good relationship. But you remember,

00:35:05.880 he was the one that said they're crazy when he when they said, did he threaten you? You know,

00:35:10.520 he actually said, no, he could have done a grandstand and said, well, I felt threatened.

00:35:14.840 He didn't do that. So I respect him. You understand that. But I have a relationship with both.

00:35:20.600 And I say I will have that settled before I take office. If I win as president elect, I will get that

00:35:28.360 bloodbath settled. And the numbers are much bigger. You know, the number of people that are dying,

00:35:33.880 when you see those buildings coming down all over the place, there are a lot of people in those

00:35:38.200 buildings. And then you hear two people were injured. Two people were sent to the hospital with

00:35:42.520 minor injuries and they dropped these massive buildings. I'll get Ukraine settled. Israel, 1.00

00:35:49.320 something is going to happen. I think probably by the time we get to office, something either very

00:35:56.280 negative or positive. But I think negative because we don't have a leader. This should have never

00:36:02.920 happened. They would have never attacked Israel. That attack, that horrible attack, which was a

00:36:08.600 horrible attack. And the amazing thing is that people don't talk about the attack anymore. They don't

00:36:13.640 talk about that. They only talk about the other side. And something has to be done, has to be done

00:36:20.360 very quickly. The problem with that one is that some really bad things can happen fairly quickly.

00:36:28.840 And that includes other nations getting involved that are pretty big nations with millions of soldiers.

00:36:35.000 And they talk about it openly. They talk about it openly because they have no respect for the United

00:36:40.680 States anymore. They have no respect for the leader of the United States. And it's a big problem. But if I

00:36:49.640 get in and I hope I do because I love our country and I never like to say I will win because I think that's foolish to

00:36:57.240 say, I think we got to have a we have a great chance. We have to keep their cheating down to a minimum. You can't

00:37:03.800 stop them totally, but we have to keep it down to a minimum. And one of the best ways is we have to swamp them to use a

00:37:11.160 term, the opposite meaning. We have to swamp. You have drain the swamp and then swamping them. But you

00:37:17.960 have to we have to swamp them because there comes a point where they can't, you know, it's just too big

00:37:23.240 to cheat. But they will go as high as they can. These are people that if you think about it, if you have open

00:37:34.360 borders, if you have high gasoline prices, high interest rates, you can't buy a home, the school

00:37:41.560 system stinks, everything is bad. How do you win an election? There's only one way you have to cheat.

00:37:47.480 They cheat. And they've done it for years, but nobody ever saw anything like it in 2020. And

00:37:55.720 you can't let that go. People, they use the term election denier. I'm an election denier. I'm

00:38:01.960 an absolute election denier. I wish I didn't have to do that because we should have won that election.

00:38:08.840 But you look at it and the people you have to learn from history. So people forgot that what

00:38:14.760 they did in Atlanta was a terrible thing. You know, they never go after the people that cheated.

00:38:21.080 They only go after the people that are looking at the people that cheated because they don't want

00:38:26.440 the answers. And they know the answers. I'm going to be releasing something having to do with

00:38:30.920 Georgia very soon. I don't know what's foolproof, what's not, but it's pretty foolproof. It's

00:38:37.800 massive theft, massive theft. I'm going to be releasing things on other states.

00:38:43.880 I view this as an opportunity. A lot of people would say, well, that's a lot of big stuff. But

00:38:50.120 when you look at even now, let's go to a slightly different subject, but it's all corrupt. We have a

00:38:54.440 very corrupt country. January 6th. What's happened to those people is not believable. What's happened

00:39:01.960 to them? Policemen, firemen, lawyers, military people. What's happened? And yet nothing happens

00:39:09.480 on the other side. I was watching the other day as a fence was being destroyed at the White House and

00:39:13.880 painted over. I built that fence. You know, it's a titanium fence. It's an incredible job we did

00:39:20.040 because of the other was no longer capable of doing the job that you may have to have.

00:39:26.040 And when I watched what they, when I watched the construct, the, the, the horror that they were

00:39:31.560 doing to the White House with the spray paint all over the place and horrible, nothing's going to happen

00:39:37.240 to those people. Nothing will happen to them. But, um, you go to J6 and you see a little thing came out

00:39:44.840 a couple of months ago that they have destroyed all the evidence. Do you know that? They've destroyed,

00:39:49.640 they've taken that hearing, which was a total, uh, sham with all Democrats and two Republicans that were

00:39:59.160 far worse than any Democrat that ever lived. Okay. Two, two very sick Republicans. I mean, Liz Cheney is a sick 1.00

00:40:04.200 person. I was responsible for her defeat in her state where she couldn't be beaten. And by the 0.99

00:40:10.120 time we finished, she got the lowest vote in the history of politics for a sitting congressman losing 0.93

00:40:15.480 because most of them, when they're that low, they just resigned before they go through an election.

00:40:19.960 But, but when you see what they did, they got rid of all of the stuff and they announced it. We have

00:40:28.120 deleted and essentially thrown out. They threw out everything, almost everything. I guess,

00:40:34.040 maybe they saved a couple of good things for them. They threw out all the statements about Nancy

00:40:39.000 Pelosi and not wanting the soldiers. She would have done that. You wouldn't have had a J6. 1.00

00:40:44.520 They threw out all of the statements made by the police chief about Nancy Pelosi and about others.

00:40:51.320 And then I believe he died. But you had others that said a lot of it. There was a lot of bad things.

00:40:57.800 How about me grabbing a secret service agent who was young and very strong,

00:41:03.800 being slightly rebuffed. And I go to the one on the other side of the car and I grabbed him around

00:41:09.000 the neck. Actually, a lot of people said, I didn't know you were that strong. You know,

00:41:12.280 one of them was like a black belt or something. They said, that was impressive. It's not impressive.

00:41:18.520 Such a lie. You know, I mean, this stuff was made up. They got rid of everything. They got rid of

00:41:24.040 just about all. It was thrown out. So look, we have a country that's lost its way. We have a failing

00:41:31.720 nation and we're going to turn it around. We have to win in 2024. We cannot allow anybody else there.

00:41:39.640 They don't have the votes. The only way they can win is to cheat. And again, their policies,

00:41:46.520 it's not possible that that 30 percent of the people want to have open borders where people,

00:41:53.480 where criminals are allowed to come into our country and do terrible things to them

00:41:57.560 and everyone else. It's not possible. They have the worst policy. It's not even believable policy,

00:42:04.040 including their environmental stuff, which is going to destroy our country. It's going to destroy our

00:42:08.120 country. But and nobody's more important. Nobody loves the environment. I want clean air. I want

00:42:13.080 clean water, crystal clean. I want everything. But if we don't win the election in 2024,

00:42:19.960 I really believe that America is finished. If we do, I think we can bring it back to a level

00:42:26.360 greater than ever before. President Donald Trump. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you very much.

00:42:32.760 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today. And a very special thanks to the 45th

00:42:36.760 president of the United States and soon to be 47th president as well. Our guest here tomorrow

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The Great America Show - January 13, 2024

THE GREAT AMERICA SATURDAY SHOW WITH PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

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