The Great America Show - The Great America Sunday Show： May 4, 2025

00:00:00.000 He is the most consequential American leader of the 21st century, and that's an understatement.

00:00:09.620 President Trump has, here's a list, removed men from women's sports, ended DEI in the

00:00:13.640 federal government and the U.S. military, expanded oil and gas extraction to lower prices,

00:00:18.420 taken steps to end unfair trade practices, secured trillions of dollars in new investments

00:00:23.360 in American manufacturing, deported criminal illegal aliens, stood up for religious liberty,

00:00:28.360 and rooted out anti-Christian bias, combated virulent anti-Semitism on college campuses.

00:00:34.540 The list goes on and on and on. That's just barely scratching the surface. That's in 100 days.

00:00:38.920 We're just getting started.

00:00:40.980 Are you folks tired of winning yet? Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:45.520 It's great to have you with us. Thanks so much for joining us on this fine night in America.

00:00:49.760 Today marks 100 days that President Trump has been in office. Now, a programming note,

00:00:54.880 you probably realize and notice that we're live at 5 Eastern today, and that is for one reason.

00:01:00.780 President Trump will be rallying folks at Macomb Community College in Warren, Michigan,

00:01:06.900 tonight at 6 p.m. If you keep it locked in right here on The Great America Show,

00:01:11.400 right here on Rumble YouTube, Twitter will be carrying the rally live for you,

00:01:16.060 so you don't even have to flinch. Don't have to move your seat. We'll have the link right here for you

00:01:20.080 in the chat, and you'll be able to just click that and stay right here on Lou Dobbs Media.

00:01:25.160 You won't have to go anywhere. You won't have to tune into Fox News or CNN or any of those fake news

00:01:30.400 networks. We got it for you right here on the Lou Dobbs Media channel. So the first 100 days, folks,

00:01:37.400 I'm going to ask you guys, what do you guys think now? Of course, you can't respond to me,

00:01:41.440 but think about it. Are you underwhelmed? Are you overwhelmed? Are you have you expected

00:01:47.440 the first 100 days to be this good? Have you expected them to be bad? We want to know your

00:01:52.220 thoughts. Shoot me a message on Twitter at johnfawcettny, or you can email us at info at

00:01:56.480 Lou Dobbs. I want to know what you guys are thinking and where you guys are at. Let us know

00:02:01.220 right here in the comments section on how you think President Trump is doing in the first 100 days.

00:02:06.820 Now, the MSNBC Marxists were out on the streets of Michigan earlier today and this week asking voters

00:02:14.060 what they thought about President Trump and the job he's doing his first 100 days in office.

00:02:21.120 Let's take a listen to what they had to say.

00:02:23.940 Tariffs have got everybody scared and I'm willing, I think, to go through a little bit of initial pain.

00:02:32.800 Nobody likes to pay more for anything. I don't. But in the long run, I think it's going to be good.

00:02:38.200 I'm on board with the mission.

00:02:41.720 I'm optimistic. I'm really very optimistic. And I know that right now with the tariffs,

00:02:46.960 that there's a little bit of pain. Things are happening right now that right now aren't,

00:02:54.140 we're not in a good place.

00:02:56.000 Are you willing to accept that pain for the time being?

00:02:59.360 Well, I don't think I'm an instant gratification person. I think that sometimes you have to go

00:03:05.900 through a little bit of the fire to get to the end of the rainbow.

00:03:11.400 Perfectly put by that gentleman, by both those gentlemen in Michigan there.

00:03:17.060 It's as we've been saying on the show, nothing's instant. And some of the things that President

00:03:20.900 Trump and the holes he's had to pull us out of here are not holes that you pull out of immediately.

00:03:25.780 Now, I'm not giving a free pass to Pam Bondi for why she hasn't gotten out the Epstein files,

00:03:32.480 which we're going to take up today with our good friend, the great Roger Stone,

00:03:36.560 our weekly guest here on The Great America Show. I'm not giving her a free pass

00:03:40.120 on why she hasn't been able to do that. But the trade deals, some of these trade deals that these

00:03:46.460 government officials have got us in over the years, they can't be taken out overnight.

00:03:51.120 The tariffs, it's not an overnight thing. Foreign policy, it's not an overnight thing. But

00:03:56.640 for the overwhelming majority, his first hundred days, in my opinion, has been nothing short of

00:04:01.780 monumental. And that is with him being stifled and stopped by Marxist dem rogue judges. There's

00:04:08.800 judges who mean to harm America, who want to control America, and want to do everything they

00:04:14.740 could to subvert you, the voters. It's what it is. But we have a lot to look forward to now for the

00:04:20.740 rest of the year, for the rest of the term, this administration. One thing in particular is those

00:04:27.020 tax cuts, those Trump tax cuts, the corporate tax cuts, the individual tax cuts that are going to be

00:04:31.560 renewed very shortly. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson was at the White House today, and he had this to

00:04:38.480 say about how it's coming along and how it's progressing.

00:04:42.520 It's trade, it's tax and it's deregulation. So we are in the midst of addressing, as Caroline said, these

00:04:54.300 long term trade imbalances. The tax bill is going much better than I would have thought when I took office

00:05:04.680 on January 28th. And that's through President Trump's leadership, that Speaker Johnson, Leader Thune,

00:05:11.820 are united. Speaker Johnson, we had a very good meeting yesterday with somebody called the Big Six,

00:05:19.800 NEC Director Kevin Hassett, myself, Speaker Johnson, Leader Thune, Committee Chairman Jason Smith,

00:05:26.400 and Senator Crapo. And the tax bill is moving forward. It is going to give permanence to the

00:05:34.060 2017 Tax Cuts and Job Act, which will, back to the question on certainty, it will give American

00:05:40.600 business certainty, it will give American people certainty, and then President Trump.

00:05:46.540 Scott Besson, probably one of the best Treasury Secretaries I've seen in my lifetime.

00:05:51.840 Brian, brilliant, brilliant man. Once those tax cuts come back and those things are renewed,

00:05:57.900 the markets are going to absolutely soar. There's nothing more that the market's like than tax cuts,

00:06:04.000 especially corporate tax cuts that are coming for these businesses. So we look forward to that.

00:06:09.760 There's so much green road or green grass, I should say, and paved road ahead for this administration

00:06:17.160 that it's going to take some time. And like I said, I'm not giving a free pass to Pam Bondi.

00:06:21.180 And why they're dragging their feet on everything. But as a whole, this administration is off to a

00:06:27.020 rousing start. Hats off to the administration. Now, yesterday, we had on Mark Mitchell, and we

00:06:32.800 talked about the mainstream media, their lies and their polls, these fake polls. They didn't learn

00:06:37.480 their lesson in 2016. They didn't learn their lesson in 2020. They didn't learn their lesson in 2024.

00:06:42.960 And now they're back into 2025 with the same nonsense, the lies, the deceit,

00:06:47.580 and the destruction. It's not just the pollsters, though. We watch CNN on this show here,

00:06:54.420 so you don't have to. Jake Tapper, as I like to call him, fake Tapper, covering a story very

00:07:01.220 interesting. We'll let it roll and we'll explain after.

00:07:05.360 ...is approaching its first 100-day mark with a full-court press on the issue of illegal immigration,

00:07:10.840 and they really don't want you to miss it. So they subtly and tastefully deck the White House

00:07:16.780 North Lawn with dozens of yard signs featuring photos of people that the Trump administration

00:07:21.520 claims are in the country illegally. Each poster saying, arrested, enlisting the alleged offensive

00:07:27.440 with which they have been charged. CNN's working to confirm the identities. And if there are actual

00:07:33.020 allegations against these people, until then, we are blurring their identities. 0.97

00:07:36.740 I mean, these people are just total liars. Jake Tapper, another one. Total, total liar. 0.97

00:07:44.300 Notice how many times he said alleged. Alleged criminals or claims. Well, Jake, the difference 0.98

00:07:52.200 between you and your fake news operation that you run and you work at is that the Trump administration

00:07:57.860 has receipts. Don't, as I say here every day, folks, don't take our word for it. Don't take anyone's

00:08:04.200 word for it. There's receipts. Those alleged criminals that were arrested. By the way, this

00:08:10.820 is, if you guys have Twitter, if you're not following me, please be sure to follow me on

00:08:14.440 Twitter, at JohnFawcettNY. Also on YouTube. We're now on YouTube. We're trying to grow our

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00:08:29.980 there, we'd greatly appreciate it as we're trying to boost that channel up like we have our Rumble

00:08:34.880 channel rolling. So back to what I was saying. The Trump administration has receipts, unlike these

00:08:39.320 Marxist Dems. CNN and MSNBC, they can lie. They can lie. Adam Schiff, they can lie. They get away with it.

00:08:46.560 Nobody holds them. Yesterday, we spoke about accountability. Nobody holds them accountable.

00:08:50.640 So they get away with it and they continue to do as they please. But the Trump administration has

00:08:55.560 receipts. So Jake Tapper, fake Tapper, told you alleged crimes. The Trump administration claims

00:09:03.220 they're criminals. You heard it. You heard the same thing I heard. So as I was saying back to Twitter,

00:09:09.060 rapid response 47 is the Trump administration's, one of their Twitter pages where they rebuff and

00:09:15.420 rebuttal anything the fake news puts out. So if you've got a rapid response 47 on Twitter,

00:09:21.480 their pinned tweet is this quote, meet the scumbags placed on the White House lawn this morning for 0.99

00:09:28.740 the world to see the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens sent back where they belong in 1.00

00:09:34.360 President Trump's first hundred days. So Tapper, I'm not sure if he was saying allegedly arrested or

00:09:40.040 allegedly criminals, but you can go right here. As I said, rapid response 47. And it has all of these

00:09:47.240 people's names. I'm sorry, they withhold the names, but they have all the crimes and everything

00:09:52.520 they've been accused of, what they've done, their arrest date. And you can go through and you can look

00:10:00.260 and you can see what these people are arrested for. There's no hyperbole here, as CNN would suggest.

00:10:05.900 There's no alleged. This is one of my favorite ones. It's become a meme lately. As you can see,

00:10:14.800 this lady right here, when they arrested her was crying. The arrest of a Dominican Republic 1.00

00:10:22.020 national convicted of possessing and distribution of fentanyl ice Philadelphia arrested Virginia

00:10:28.880 Basora Gonzalez, a 36 year old. Oh, I take that back. They did put the names in 36 year old citizen 1.00

00:10:34.540 Dominican Republic. Basora has a final order of removal dated for May 4th, 2020. Basora's criminal

00:10:40.820 history includes a conviction for attempted possession with intent to distribute 40 grams

00:10:45.800 or more of fentanyl in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Enough grams of fentanyl to kill multiple people.

00:10:53.980 There's no alleged there, Mr. Jake Tapper. There's no claims there, Mr. Jake Tapper.

00:11:01.760 Why don't you report the news? Be honest with the American people on what's going on in this

00:11:07.620 country. The criminals that have flown into this country, the drugs that have poured into this

00:11:12.420 country, the crime that has flourished in this country from illegal immigration. Why don't you be 1.00

00:11:20.600 honest with the people? And if you're not going to be honest with the people, why don't you take them

00:11:24.140 to live with you? Why don't you adopt some of them? If they're such good people, take them to live with

00:11:30.960 you in your mansion, your million dollar house, your million dollar apartment, wherever you live.

00:11:35.680 Take them to live with you if they're such good people. It doesn't seem, folks, that the Marxist

00:11:41.440 Dems and these mainstream media outlets are going to stop their deceit and lies anytime soon. Now,

00:11:47.140 thankful for great Americans like you and I, we hold them accountable by not tuning in

00:11:53.240 and giving to their ratings. Eventually, they're going to run out of money. They're going to run

00:11:57.940 out of advertising money. Advertisers aren't going to dump any money into the network. That's how it

00:12:02.240 works. These networks flourish on advertising. The advertisers see a demographic, a number of

00:12:10.920 audience viewers, and they pay based on that. So one of two things happens here.

00:12:17.180 They start cutting down substantially on how much they're spending, how much they're paying for their

00:12:21.500 week viewer numbers, or they cut it out altogether. So there's going to be a day where Jake Tapper's

00:12:28.140 not going to have a job anymore. We've seen the downsizing that CNN has done and MSNBC has done.

00:12:33.860 They're just a few. That's going to happen all across the board. The American people are tired of it.

00:12:38.580 Nobody wants to hear your lies anymore. Nobody wants to hear your deceit.

00:12:43.680 You guys are a threat to democracy, not Donald Trump, not MAGA, nothing compared to what you

00:12:49.260 guys have done over the last 10 years and what you continue to do. So before we bring in our guest,

00:12:55.840 the great Roger Stone, host of The Stone Zone, each and every night, WABC Radio, 8 p.m.,

00:13:02.220 or you catch him on wabcradio.com or thestonezone.com. I want to conclude with this. And also just a

00:13:11.460 reminder, we'll be carrying that Trump rally live from Michigan, Warren, Michigan, right after the

00:13:16.980 show, right here on this channel, in the chat section on Rumble and YouTube. We'll have the link

00:13:22.140 for you to join us for that. In conclusion, President Trump's first hundred days, in my opinion,

00:13:30.140 couldn't be off to a better start. Like I said, with the exception of these rogue Marxist judges,

00:13:36.860 that would be the only exception, in my opinion, where it could have been off to a better start.

00:13:41.700 But it's baked in the cake, folks. That's what these Marxist Dems do. It is what it is. 0.76

00:13:47.000 We've lived with it for 10 years. We'll live with it for another four.

00:13:56.280 Joining us now is the great Roger Stone. Roger, it's excellent, as always, to have you back with

00:14:01.140 us here on The Great America Show. President Trump in Michigan tonight. But he's got a little bit of

00:14:05.780 a problem. He's got this freak who wants him impeached. This guy right here.

00:14:10.140 This is Congressman Shri Tenedar. Donald Trump has already done real damage to our democracy.

00:14:17.000 But defying a unanimous 9-0 Supreme Court ruling, that has to be the final straw. It's time we

00:14:24.780 impeached Donald J. Trump. The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia must be allowed

00:14:32.520 to return and receive due process. Trump ignored it. He ignored the Constitution. He ignored the very

00:14:40.700 checks and balances that keep our democracy intact. I think that's enough, Roger. I don't know where

00:14:48.480 they find these people. That guy is kind of the Indian Al Green. I mean, first of all, he wasn't 0.99

00:14:56.980 illegally deported. He was legally deported. He is not a citizen of the United States. He's a citizen of 0.80

00:15:04.620 El Salvador. And he is most definitely a member of a violent criminal gang. What we have here in the 0.97

00:15:14.860 country is judicial tyranny. Unelected judges going far beyond their authority to try to stop the reform

00:15:25.100 agenda of a president. Yeah, it is a constitutional crisis. But check the Constitution, John. I don't see

00:15:31.540 the part where it says the judiciary is superior to the other two branches. Right. So, I mean,

00:15:38.420 it is a little hard to understand. There is no grounds to impeach Donald Trump. That guy just got

00:15:45.700 his 15 minutes. He is going to give rise to 100 Saturday Night Live skits. But Donald Trump is not

00:15:53.860 going to be impeached anytime soon. Why can't they find a normal looking person, Roger? I'm not just

00:15:59.860 saying because he's Indian. He's just a weird dude. I mean, none of these people in the Democratic 0.59

00:16:05.700 Party like the Republicans are just as bad. I mean, we have our own full of weirdos, Roger. But 0.95

00:16:11.060 I mean, first, it's Al Green. Then you've got this guy. I mean, who's next? Is it going to be the

00:16:17.300 transgender from Delaware? It's it's mind blowing to me. So Donald Trump's in Michigan tonight, which 0.54

00:16:22.020 folks, by the way, if you keep it here after the show, we'll we'll be bringing you the rally right

00:16:26.300 here on this channel in Michigan tonight to talk about his first 100 days. How do you think

00:16:33.100 would would you grade his first 100 days in office? Are you underwhelmed, overwhelmed your thoughts?

00:16:40.300 I would give him, you know, an A minus perhaps. Look, this is like turning around an ocean liner.

00:16:48.620 I think a lot of people are unrealistic about how much he is able to do virtually overnight.

00:16:56.220 But we we I do know this. When I went to buy eggs last Sunday, they were five dollars and 50 cents

00:17:03.660 a dozen. Last time I bought them, Joe Biden was president. They were eight dollars and 90 cents a

00:17:09.660 dozen. Gas prices are down. Interest rates are down. Inflation is actually holding steady while we've just had the

00:17:18.220 largest single increase in tariff revenue. Fifteen billion in April, projected to be even more in

00:17:26.780 March. So I recognize that people want want the president to do everything overnight. But I don't

00:17:37.100 think that is possible. That said, I've expressed here on this show my frustration with the fact that I

00:17:44.860 don't believe all the Kennedy assassination documents have been released. I think that there are deep

00:17:51.660 state actors who have withheld a lot of vital information. I now don't think all of the principal

00:17:59.020 documents, videos, audios and so on pertaining to the murder of Robert F. Kennedy have been released now

00:18:08.540 that I've seen what has been released. So just to give you a couple of examples where the president

00:18:14.060 has kept his his promise. But I do think that there are there are deep state bureaucrats who are trying

00:18:20.700 to thwart his endeavors. The most important thing I think we all understand will be the economy. And

00:18:29.420 Trump has a stunning, I would say, risky gambit here, where he is betting that he can use the cudgel of

00:18:44.140 sheriffs to get our many trading partners to give us a fair trading deal. But he also has to renew the tax

00:18:53.420 cuts in January. And we have to have very real spending reform, spending cuts. If nothing else,

00:19:02.140 Elon Musk has shown the way. Now, that's a lot to get done. But if the president does do it, I do think,

00:19:09.100 as he said in the campaign, the economy will be revitalized. The mainstream media and their Trump

00:19:18.300 derangement syndrome seems to be at an all time high. This White House correspondence dinner,

00:19:25.980 where everyone in the place collectively knew about the cognitive decline of Joe Biden, and all of them

00:19:32.380 hit it, covered it up. And then they gave an award to the one guy who had the cojones to write about it 0.98

00:19:38.860 as if they weren't complicit in the cover up. Absolutely unbelievable. 0.97

00:19:43.020 Just going back, you go to the grocery store and buying eggs. I can't picture Roger Stone walking

00:19:49.820 down the aisle of a grocery store throwing some yogurts in the cart, some eggs.

00:19:56.460 I've got to wear a pair of my hat and sunglasses. But yeah, I do it.

00:20:00.700 Oh, it's great. So he is running. So before I get into that, I want to discuss because I agree

00:20:08.860 with you wholeheartedly what you said, that he is one man and there's only so much he can do.

00:20:12.700 Right. There's things like trade agreements, Roger, which you can't fix overnight. OK,

00:20:17.260 because they're years of just garbage that our politicians have put us into. 0.97

00:20:21.740 There's manufacturers that have left America. That's not coming back overnight. It will with 0.95

00:20:25.980 due time, but not overnight. A stock market is going to take some time to rebound. OK,

00:20:30.140 but there are some things that you mentioned that can be done overnight. And it's not incumbent

00:20:34.460 upon President Trump because he's already ordered his Department of Justice, his attorney general,

00:20:39.740 to declassify it. Pam Bondi. OK, now there's so many people who are saying just give some time,

00:20:45.900 just give some time, just give some time. I agree with giving time, Roger, but we knew for four years

00:20:51.260 that we wanted the Epstein documents. We knew for four years that we wanted the JFK documents. We

00:20:55.420 knew for four. It's not even four years. We knew for eight years because Donald Trump wanted him out

00:20:58.940 the first time. The RFK and the list goes on and on and on. What is the holdup with Pam Bondi

00:21:05.340 that she can't seem to get on message with President Trump? You know, I honestly don't think that

00:21:11.340 because she's not well versed in this, she knows where all the documents are. There's an excellent

00:21:17.260 letter sent to her by Congressman Tim Burchett that outlined the fact that the president's

00:21:23.660 order pertained narrowly to the National Archives JFK assassination records collection. That's great,

00:21:32.860 but there are still documents at the FBI, at the IRS, at the CIA, the Department of State,

00:21:39.100 the Department of Defense. There are documents that we know that the Assassination Records Review Board,

00:21:46.860 not just documents, but also audios and videos that were reviewed by that governmental entity back in

00:21:53.180 the 90s that are not included in the material that has just been released. And then you'll remember

00:21:59.820 the House Select Committee on Assassinations, after doing an exhaustive investigation, concluded that

00:22:07.180 organized crime was deeply involved in John Kennedy's murder, yet none of the documents they have turned

00:22:13.820 over would indicate that or reflect that. So, look, I think Anna Paulina Luna has done a good job,

00:22:21.260 but I do think she has to keep pushing because everything is not out there. And as far as Epstein is

00:22:28.300 concerned, this is interesting to me because I interviewed Virginia Giffray. I have 12 hours of audio tape.

00:22:36.620 I interviewed her for my 2015 book, The Clinton's War on Women. If you go to that book, John,

00:22:43.820 the longest chapter in the book is the expose on Jeffrey Epstein. After Nick Bryant, an investigative

00:22:51.580 journalist, I was probably the second author in the country to fully expose what Epstein was doing. I read

00:23:00.380 every bit of Virginia Giffray's sworn testimony. In all honesty, I find it very hard to believe

00:23:09.020 that she committed suicide. Yeah. And it's it's not just her. I mean, you've got this other girl

00:23:14.300 that has come out. You've got Epstein himself. How many more people need to drop dead? How many more

00:23:19.580 people need to get hit by a car? And that's very literally because a month ago, Virginia Giffray was

00:23:24.780 hit by a bus. How many more people need to hang themselves in their own cell with nobody watching,

00:23:31.340 with no cameras on, with no guards in sight before we get the news? And the interesting thing apart

00:23:36.940 about it, Roger, we spoke about this last week with regard to somebody else. It wasn't about Epstein.

00:23:41.740 It was about somebody else being a rat snitching and getting no jail time. But Jelaine Maxwell sitting

00:23:48.620 in a jail cell right now. Right. What I was told, Roger, was they have so much information on Jeffrey

00:23:53.580 Epstein that they didn't even need Jelaine Maxwell to flip. They didn't need her testimony. They

00:23:58.460 didn't need anything, which is why no plea deal was cut, which is why she's still sitting in jail. 1.00

00:24:03.020 That troubles me. Does it not trouble you? Well, you know, I think the real problem here is not

00:24:08.220 Pam Bondi. I think the real problem here is the Southern District of New York. That U.S. Attorney's

00:24:14.220 District thinks that they are a law unto themselves. Even though the president has fired the people at the

00:24:21.660 top and recently appointed Jay Clayton as the interim U.S. attorney, virtually everyone below

00:24:29.340 him is a hardcore partisan Trump hater. It's going to be very interesting, for example, to see whether

00:24:36.780 they honor this memo from the Justice Department that lays out the guidelines as to how certain

00:24:44.060 cryptocurrency cases that were brought by the Biden administration but will not be brought by the

00:24:51.340 Trump administration are handled. That place needs to be cleaned out. I suspect the holdup lies in New

00:24:59.340 York, not in Washington, when it comes to the Epstein material. And then, John, in all honesty,

00:25:05.260 they got from Epstein's home in New York, from his island, the Little St. James and the Virgin

00:25:12.940 Islands, from his apartment in Paris, from his ranch in New Mexico, hard drives and DVDs. But why do we

00:25:21.100 believe that those still are in existence? Why do we believe that those who were very powerful in two

00:25:26.940 two previous administrations who had a great interest in that material and never seeing the

00:25:32.860 light of day didn't have it destroyed? But wouldn't it be in Pam Bondi's best interest,

00:25:38.460 Roger, to come out and blow the whistle and say, we got here. There's no tapes. We know there was 15

00:25:43.900 gigabytes on this hard drive. We know there was this taken out of here. It's not here. It's nowhere to be

00:25:48.620 found. Wouldn't it be in her best interest to be transparent with the American people after promising the

00:25:53.100 world and delivering a stale piece of bread and say, this is where we're at right now? There's

00:25:59.820 nothing national security about this. Now, I understand there's some situations where you need

00:26:03.740 to to act in silence. Everyone's dead, Roger. Everyone's dead. I mean, who are they protecting?

00:26:09.660 Well, first of all, we don't know that there's no national security issues because when

00:26:14.780 that we know of when. Yeah. Well, let me say this. When Alberto Acosta,

00:26:21.100 the U.S. attorney for Miami, who basically rubber stamped Epstein's state conviction on

00:26:29.820 on sex crimes after pleading them way, way down, the state attorney did, when Acosta was appointed

00:26:37.900 labor secretary and those preparing him for his confirmation hearings, asked him what he was going

00:26:45.020 to say if he was asked in the hearings why he had essentially given Epstein a slap out of the wrist.

00:26:52.060 He said, well, I'm going to tell the truth, which was he was working for the CIA and that's what I was

00:26:56.700 told to do. So that would indicate that there are perhaps national security issues, but that's not a

00:27:03.420 reason not to release this material. John, if you go to my 1950, 2015 book, the man, pardon me,

00:27:11.820 the Clinton's war on women. There's more information there that has been released by the Justice

00:27:18.140 Department. That's the problem we have in this country, Rogers. Nobody wants to tell the truth.

00:27:22.860 I want to turn to Roger, the Republicans as a whole. We're finding out this week that Rand Paul

00:27:34.700 in the Senate is very against Trump's tariffs. He's so much against them that he wants them to make an

00:27:39.420 embarrassment of Donald Trump and an embarrassment of the Republican Party and get votes. And he

00:27:43.900 apparently has the votes in the Senate right now. Get the votes in the Senate to repeal Donald Trump's

00:27:48.380 tariffs. Now, there's one problem. And Rand Paul knows this because he's a constitutionalist.

00:27:51.740 Donald Trump could go ahead and veto that. Why even cause this upfighting in the Republican Party

00:27:57.820 and embarrass ourselves? Well, first of all, there has been a schism between Senator Paul and the

00:28:04.160 president for some time, even after Mitch McConnell threw in the towel and endorsed Donald Trump for the

00:28:10.900 2024 nomination. Rand Paul did not. I understood that he told the president that there were conditions

00:28:19.880 for his endorsement. At that point, Trump had the nomination wrapped up. I don't think he was going

00:28:26.300 to be nominated or elected because of the endorsement of Rand Paul. So, look, I think maybe for him,

00:28:33.000 it is a matter of principle. I understand that, but it is not helpful to the country. And you're right.

00:28:38.860 This is Donald Trump's Republican Party. This is no longer the party of Wall Street or the financial

00:28:45.560 elites or the billionaires. This is the party of working people. And Trump is committed to bringing 0.76

00:28:52.000 manufacturing and jobs back to this country. And that means we must have the ability to sell our

00:28:58.220 products abroad. The people get it. The other thing that's going on here, John, that's interesting,

00:29:04.040 is amazingly the same polls that told us that Kamala Harris was going to beat Donald Trump are now

00:29:12.720 telling us that Donald Trump is unpopular with the American people. Please give me a break. This is

00:29:19.560 yet another psyop. You know, as well as I do, that any poll can be manipulated by the wording of the

00:29:28.800 question, by the order of the question, by the size of the sample. I just don't put much stock in it.

00:29:35.780 The surveys I have looked at, particularly surveys by Tony Fabrizio, who I have enormous respect for,

00:29:43.360 and John McLaughlin, for that matter, show that the president's doing just fine. He's taking a lot of

00:29:50.260 attacks from the mainstream media. And I think to the extent that there is any dip in his support,

00:29:56.420 it's understandable. He's in the middle of a fight. And there's a huge amount of disinformation.

00:30:02.920 Oh, he's shipping this Maryland man illegally to El Salvador. No, he's not a Maryland man. He's an

00:30:10.760 El Salvador resident. This is insanity. Yeah, I'm gonna actually pull up some of those approval 1.00

00:30:16.540 polls because we I was talking about them yesterday with my friend Mark Mitchell. I have on the show

00:30:21.640 pretty often. It's unbelievable to believe that this is what these people think. And just looking

00:30:29.260 over some of these polls, you've got NPR Marist lied, Roger, in the 2024 election. They lied in the

00:30:35.460 2020 election. ABC Washington Post, they lied the entire election. They came out a week before the

00:30:40.300 election. They put out a new poll. CNN, the same thing. New York Times, CNN, Roger. If you ever have

00:30:45.620 some fun time, go back and look at their 2020 polling, their final polling, Roger, they had

00:30:51.080 Biden winning Michigan by 11 or 12 points. I mean, they missed Roger by eight, nine points. That's no

00:30:58.560 accident. So I want to go down to two particular polls, because these are two people who got 2024,

00:31:05.480 either spot on or within the margin of error within point five. And it's Qantas Insights,

00:31:11.540 who I met the fellow who does the polling. Very nice, honest guy. And Rasmussen polls,

00:31:16.300 Mark Mitchell. They have President Trump's approval at 47, 48. RMG, also another one at 49. Yet you

00:31:22.860 have all these other people, Roger. Why have they still not learned their lesson with lying to the

00:31:27.940 American people? Nobody buys their BS anymore. Nobody buys the bunkum that Donald Trump is underwater

00:31:33.700 in any sense of the imagination to put Fox News. Why would they do this to themselves, Roger,

00:31:40.000 and embarrass themselves? Because it is it is part of their effort to mislead the American people.

00:31:46.660 Polls have a great tradition. But with the advent of the cell phone in the computer, you know,

00:31:55.260 in the beginning, pollsters had to go to the door. Gallup and Harris had to go to the door of the people

00:32:02.360 they were polling. Now you have to get, to be accurate, the right mix of internet respondees,

00:32:10.180 cell phone respondees, personal respondees. It's a much more complicated science. And I think with

00:32:18.460 the general distrust of politicians, politics, government institutions, there are a lot of people

00:32:26.580 who love Donald Trump. We're not going to tell that to a pollster. They're just they don't want

00:32:31.680 to be harassed. They don't want to be hassled. They certainly don't want to be targeted.

00:32:36.960 Yeah, when they call me, Roger, which I get a call every now and then, I lie. I tell them I'm a

00:32:41.760 Hispanic female. I'm 50 over 55 years old. So I'm probably part of the problem. But I'm not playing 0.99

00:32:47.760 their bullshit, because I know it's a lie anyway. And the craziest part about it all, Roger, that nobody 0.99

00:32:52.520 questions is there's something called cross tabs, which you know, in there, and it's how you got your

00:32:56.120 information. None of them ever released it. So they can literally just plug and play whatever

00:33:00.400 numbers they want. What I was told is all it has to do is equal 100%, which is even for a Democrat,

00:33:06.680 not very hard to do. You know, this new New York Times poll shows that 37% of the people voted for

00:33:12.260 Donald Trump in the poll. So therefore, de facto, the survey is incorrect. Yeah, yeah, you would think

00:33:19.560 that enough with the lies in the seat. Let's turn to what happened in Canada last night.

00:33:26.180 choosing to go further Marxist, further socialist. And that's what Donald Trump called for. You know,

00:33:30.280 I was talking with someone last night after the election. They said Donald Trump screwed this 0.97

00:33:33.740 thing up. We could have had a conservative in there. And Donald Trump said it perfectly right.

00:33:38.440 He didn't want to deal with a conservative. He wants to deal with someone that we're going to get a deal

00:33:41.700 done through and a conservative, you know, would be, you know, just a piece of a milk toast. Whereas

00:33:47.740 a liberal socialist, he's going to go to war with and he's probably going to win.

00:33:54.440 Well, first of all, Canada is very much like the United States in the sense that their conservative

00:34:00.360 party, there's nothing conservative about their conservative party. So those would be the rhinos 1.00

00:34:07.440 in our system. Doug Ford is not in any way a conservative. I think Pierre Povert is, he's

00:34:17.160 interesting, he's very funny. But let's also point out that internet and broadcast censorship

00:34:24.400 is far greater in Canada than in the United States, as in many states, countries in the world.

00:34:33.040 We have one broadcast entity. It's the government. It would be like if we just had PBS, for example.

00:34:41.020 And internet censorship is much, much more aggressive, very much like it was back in 2020

00:34:47.680 during that election. So I think that played a major role in the outcome of this election.

00:34:55.360 I also think candidly, Donald Trump's trolling the Canadians. It is understanding how that

00:35:02.620 understandable how that might upset some Canadians, but to blame the loss on Donald Trump, I think it's

00:35:09.680 a bit much. One correction there, Roger, you said Canadians and Americans are Canadian. Canada

00:35:15.820 and America is very like, there's one difference. The men are not the same. There's a, I don't think

00:35:21.600 there's a sense of any alpha in, in that country. And I say this, my brother-in-law is from Canada

00:35:26.480 and I tell him the same exact thing. No, no, they're, they're brittle, they're weak, they're

00:35:30.900 effeminate. I mean, there's nothing worse than a Canadian liberal. I mean, it could be, they don't 0.98

00:35:34.960 have their, they don't have a military. None of them go to the military to, to, to man up. You know,

00:35:40.520 I don't know what it is, but there's this sort of a, this, and I get this from like 99% of Canadians.

00:35:46.380 There's this passive aggressiveness in them where they want to kill you, but they'll never

00:35:51.260 tell you they want to kill you because they're terrified. They want to kill you. That's what I 0.97

00:35:55.800 get from it. But so do you think now with Donald Trump negotiating with this socialist, we get

00:36:03.600 something done because we already see now, Roger, over in Asia, apparently Donald Trump and Xi Jinping

00:36:09.380 are supposed to meet in May. He's working a deal with Japan. They have a framework for a deal in

00:36:13.820 India. Everything is coming together, right? And this is faster than I could have ever imagined 0.99

00:36:18.180 with the major countries, right? We really only need to make deals in my opinion with

00:36:23.720 Canada, with China, China. I don't care. Japan, Cambodia, Vietnam, and India. And if the European 0.97

00:36:31.340 union wants to play ball, come on and play ball. If you don't eat the tariffs. And most of those

00:36:36.860 countries I just named, he's already has framework in place, Roger. And this is like less than a

00:36:41.900 month after the tariffs kicked in.

00:36:43.280 Also Mexico, where the Mexicans have essentially folded. The president put this best the other day 0.99

00:36:50.620 when he said, there's really nothing in Canada that we need. We can build our own cars here. We

00:36:56.220 don't need Canada. That's a pretty strong position to go into the negotiation with. I think they need

00:37:02.480 us more than we need them. Look, I actually don't think Trump likes tariffs. I think he likes using

00:37:08.800 them as a club. If he could have zero tariffs across the board, that would be his preference. I mean,

00:37:14.260 I think he is actually at heart, he's a free trader, but we haven't had free trade in this country for 100

00:37:20.560 years. What we have are these big, one-size-fits-all international trade deals, which seem to be highly

00:37:29.340 beneficial for our trading partners, but not very beneficial for us.

00:37:33.960 Yeah. As Lou Dobbs used to say, free trade is just a term that's used as a guise for them to

00:37:39.760 screw us over. It's fair trade is what we need. And like you just said, there's nations where we're

00:37:46.960 not buying as much as they're buying and vice versa. Canada is one of them. Vietnam is another one. For

00:37:53.260 every $1 they spend, we spend $15. So there's situations, Roger, where you're not going to be

00:38:00.040 able to balance it out completely, but you need to make it make sense, in my opinion.

00:38:11.680 I want to turn to Roger Tish James. If you have an update for us, last time you and I sat down,

00:38:19.700 we made some news. We spoke about some Republicans, and we're going to get to that because I got so

00:38:25.620 much hate, Roger, after you and I sat down in Florida last week for talking about, what's his

00:38:32.680 name down in Florida? Ron DeSantis in Florida for talking about Steve Bannon. And I simply came on

00:38:37.360 the show the next day, Roger. People were writing hate mails to me telling me they'll never tune in

00:38:41.060 again. And I said to the audience, I said, very respectfully, if you don't think it's incumbent

00:38:46.680 upon me as a journalist to cover that Steve Bannon was prepping Jeffrey Epstein for depositions,

00:38:53.320 or recorded a 15-hour film with him for depositions, then this is not the show for you.

00:38:58.280 If you don't think it's incumbent upon me to speak about Ron DeSantis transferring $10 million in

00:39:02.840 Florida state funds to his wife's charity, then this is not the show for you. This is about truth,

00:39:07.240 justice, and the American way. I don't care if you're Republican or not. I don't protect pedophiles.

00:39:11.560 I don't protect crooks. It's not the show for you. So that's what I pretty much came out here and

00:39:16.040 said the next day, because that's what it is, Roger. I care about truth, justice, and the American way.

00:39:21.020 I don't give a shit about Republicans or Democrats at the end of the day. I'm an American and I'm 0.96

00:39:25.080 America first.

00:39:26.560 Well, as you know, Letitia James has retained Abby Lowell. I'm familiar with Mr. Lowell. He

00:39:34.880 represented former New York Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno, who was a great man and a very good friend

00:39:42.200 of mine. Bruno was, I think, wrongfully charged with corruption. He was convicted on all counts with

00:39:48.320 Abby Lowell as his lawyer. Then when the U.S. Supreme Court vacated that conviction, strangely

00:39:55.280 enough, the Justice Department decided to retry him. He fired Abby Lowell, hired a pit bull local 0.99

00:40:02.960 criminal defense attorney in Albany, and he was acquitted on all charges. I have here Abby Lowell's

00:40:09.900 letter to the Justice Department, which he thoughtfully gave to the New York Times. And he actually

00:40:15.580 says that these discrepancies, these falsehoods, these problems with her various mortgages,

00:40:27.180 acts that you and I would go to jail for, if we did, that they are political retribution.

00:40:34.540 They quote Trump as saying, I am your warrior. I am your justice. I am your retribution. If you go

00:40:40.580 after me, I'm coming after you. Letitia James ran for attorney general on a platform of putting 1.00

00:40:47.640 Donald Trump in jail before she had identified any crime by Donald Trump. And then she had to invent

00:40:53.840 two crimes by Donald Trump. The idea under a law that had never been used before, that Trump inflated

00:41:02.420 his assets in order to get commercial real estate loans, all of which he paid back on time.

00:41:10.140 And the lenders made $40 million in interest. And every one of them said they would do the deal

00:41:16.240 again tomorrow. That's what they tried him for. Now, she, I think, if you want to be clear about this,

00:41:23.740 no, these, these, these, these claims are not trivial. Uh, I learned about them by going to

00:41:30.100 whitecollarfraud.com, whitecollarfraud.com. All of the actual documents are there. You can look for

00:41:37.940 yourself. I saw Errol Lewis on New York one saying that this was trivial. This was insignificant,

00:41:45.720 uh, that, that Letitia James did nothing wrong. The last politician he said that about was Elliot 0.51

00:41:52.340 Spitzer. Oh no, no. For those folks not living in New York one, I spent a fair amount of time there

00:41:59.080 working for New York politicians. I mean, it's a fraud operation. It's a very, uh, terrible place

00:42:04.920 for local news. Errol Lewis. I don't know if you know this, uh, Roger, but he used to be a daily

00:42:09.980 news columnist and he was on Lou Dobbs, his show like once or twice a week. Lou actually liked this

00:42:15.280 guy. I got to know Errol and I'm like, Lou, you don't really like Errol. And it was before he got

00:42:20.040 decided he wanted to be a political justice warrior. I mean, it's, it's, it's a total disgrace

00:42:24.980 that we can't get fair news. What they did to Donald Trump, they had no problem reporting it,

00:42:29.660 right? The guys are convicted felon, mugshot him, fingerprint them, put it up everywhere,

00:42:33.860 but they don't, I don't see this story covered anywhere, Roger. I see it in the New York post.

00:42:39.000 Um, I see it on the gateway pundit, but that's about it. Nobody's reporting on it. The double standard

00:42:45.060 in this country is beyond laughable, Roger. Well, you have a couple other things here. There

00:42:49.960 is a pending lawsuit, uh, in which a state employee claims that the teacher James chief of staff

00:42:57.020 sexually assaulted her, uh, and that James, uh, turned a blind eye to it. Now, recently the appeals

00:43:05.500 court, all Democrats, uh, separated, uh, James from that case. The case goes forward, but James

00:43:13.720 was dropped from it. Uh, the woman's lawyer tells me that's going to be appealed. Now, isn't this

00:43:20.160 exactly what she took Andrew Cuomo out for? And by the way, I have reason to believe that this is not

00:43:26.320 the only example of recovering up sexual harassment and assault. Uh, we also have the issue of the

00:43:34.340 financing of her campaign for attorney general. Now it takes an enormous amount of work. We're,

00:43:39.720 we're fully aware of the act blue scandal, the burgeoning act blue scandal. Uh, but I think

00:43:47.300 what you're going to find when all the research is done is that Letitia James took in millions of 0.88

00:43:53.080 dollars from donors who either don't really exist or who tell you they didn't give to Letitia James

00:44:00.860 and they don't know what you're talking about. So, uh, I think these mortgage issues, all of which

00:44:06.100 are quite serious, all of which would send you or I to jail if we did them, uh, that's just the tip

00:44:12.540 of the iceberg. Jail, forget about it. Roger, you'd be sent to the electric chair. Roger Stone's a

00:44:18.160 mortgage frauder. He's a insurance frauder. They'd come and come to your house at six o'clock in the

00:44:23.940 morning. Uh, they'd scare your wife. I mean, what they did to you, they don't do to anybody else,

00:44:30.720 right? Letitia James, I hope to high heavens that this woman gets the book thrown at her, but 1.00

00:44:36.300 do I have confidence in the justice system? Absolutely not. Because we have no reason to

00:44:40.640 believe that anybody other than Roger Stone or Paul Manafort or Peter Navarro gets the book thrown

00:44:47.300 at them, Roger. Well, we saw Andrew McCabe on CNN this week, or maybe it was MSN saying that it was

00:44:55.580 outrageous, uh, that the Trump justice department and ice did not extend a courtesy to the judge

00:45:02.680 who was trying to help, uh, an illegal, uh, immigrant escape. What kind of courtesy did they 0.81

00:45:09.820 extend to my, uh, my, uh, hearing impaired wife who, who woke up on January 25th, 2019, looking down the

00:45:18.900 barrel of two polio automatic assault weapons. What kind of courtesy was extended to me? I was charged

00:45:25.460 wrongfully, uh, with a first time nonviolent process crime. Uh, normally in such situations,

00:45:32.340 you would contact my lawyer. In fact, uh, Robert Mueller's office spoke to my attorney the day

00:45:37.580 before we turned over 30 pages of text messages that essentially proved that I was telling the truth 1.00

00:45:43.080 and that their indictment was a piece of crap. Uh, but rather than say, by the way, you're, we're 0.96

00:45:49.020 charging your client tomorrow. He should turn himself in. They staged this elaborate 1.1 million

00:45:55.360 dollar rate. So what kind of courtesy was I afforded? It's outrageous. Yeah, it's, it's pathetic,

00:46:03.180 but it's nice to see though, that this is the retribution that Donald Trump spoke about Roger. 0.86

00:46:07.560 And this is the retribution that I'm happy that we're seeing, uh, going after people who actually

00:46:12.460 committed crimes, teach the Letitia James actually committed a crime. This judge in, uh, Wisconsin

00:46:18.440 actually committed a crime. This is the kind of retribution that, that the American people wanted.

00:46:23.700 The Democrats are kings and queens at gaslighting, Roger. Uh, and Americans have had enough of it.

00:46:29.900 They've had enough of the lies. They've had enough of the, of the deceit, um, of what they've done.

00:46:35.000 Before we wrap up here, I want to get your take on this and see if you can confirm or deny.

00:46:39.580 Somebody sent me this picture that you were in Italy last week. Is this you? Is this somebody else?

00:46:46.420 Is this a deep fake, Roger? Uh, uh, AI is a great thing, isn't it? Uh, no, look, I've written a couple

00:46:52.660 of, uh, analysis pieces, uh, you know, kind of handicapping the horse race for Pope because anyone

00:47:00.200 who thinks this isn't political doesn't get it. I have a new, I have a second one publishing today.

00:47:05.800 I did, I've done two so far. Uh, and there are developments, for example, uh, uh, uh, Cardinal

00:47:12.200 Pizza Bala of, uh, who has the, uh, uh, heads of the church in Jerusalem. He's kind of emerging now

00:47:18.700 as a dark horse. Uh, my first choice would be Cardinal Sarah, uh, or Cardinal Erdo from, uh, uh,

00:47:26.320 from Hungary. It's going to be very, very difficult, John, because Pope Francis, a globalist,

00:47:31.780 uh, who reached accommodation with the communist Chinese party. He actually let the Chinese

00:47:37.520 communist party have veto power over who could be a bishop or a priest in China. Now I think

00:47:44.960 accommodation with evil is evil. The Chinese communist regime is probably the most brutal and vicious in 0.87

00:47:53.340 the history of the world. They, they kill people who practice a certain type of, uh, Buddhism called 0.95

00:47:59.980 Falun Gong and they harvest their organs. Uh, that's the kind of evil we're talking about. Uh, also, 0.99

00:48:07.060 uh, he accepted, uh, he, the Pope accepted a, uh, a crucifix, uh, with the hammer and sickle on it,

00:48:15.880 uh, from, I think it was, uh, the Pope, uh, in Australia. Uh, he brought back pedophiles like, uh, 0.77

00:48:24.100 uh, Cardinal, uh, McCarrick, uh, who was completely discredited, but then the, the Pope brought him

00:48:31.360 back as a special counselor to Pope Francis. Uh, he was ultimately defrocked when the evidence

00:48:39.300 of his, uh, uh, pedophilic activities became so bad that they couldn't keep him.

00:48:44.960 The problem was Roger, his pedophilia. I, I did a lot of research on this guy who's now dead,

00:48:49.820 by the way, uh, that goes back to 1980, Roger. He let this guy hang around for 40 years

00:48:57.580 after allegations of pedophilia. I mean, a friend of Joe Biden, how do you let that happen?

00:49:04.200 Well, and he is a Pope Francis never denounced the mass murder of Christians in Syria. He's had no

00:49:12.120 criticism of radical Islam. Let's be very clear. The precept of their religion is that we must all be

00:49:19.640 killed because we don't agree with them. How do you reach accommodation with such people? How do you 0.91

00:49:24.940 say that that's a religion of peace? Because it isn't, uh, look, I grew up in the church of

00:49:30.620 Fulton Sheen and, and, uh, uh, when the Catholic church was a bulk work of anti-communism, uh, and, uh,

00:49:39.800 the, the, uh, uh, the key role the Catholic church played in Russia, in China, in Poland. Um,

00:49:47.440 now it has become just a globalist, uh, uh, front, uh, and, um, it is true that Pope, uh, uh,

00:50:00.080 Francis appointed 80% of the cardinals who will be voted. So, uh, I would like to be more optimistic

00:50:08.060 that we could elect a more traditionalist or conservative Pope, uh, but I think the odds are

00:50:14.360 against it. And lastly, I still, among those who believe that the resignation of Pope Benedict was

00:50:22.520 extraordinarily suspicious. He resigned for reasons of health and then he lived for 10 more years.

00:50:29.560 So I think he was forced out. Uh, I questioned whether Pope Francis was legitimate from the

00:50:35.760 beginning, but he's, he denounced private property rights. He embraced Marxism. Sorry, this is not my

00:50:42.100 Catholic church. I think you could have a schism in the church. This could become known historically

00:50:47.840 as the period of two popes. We shall see. Yeah. I was born, raised a Catholic. Roger received all

00:50:53.880 my sacraments, but I, uh, over the last few years have grown away from the Catholic church and really,

00:50:58.640 uh, want no part of it, no piece of it. Uh, the fact that the pedophilia thing, Roger, to me,

00:51:03.780 it really, uh, doesn't sit right. Anyone who protects pedophiles, anyone who inhibits pedophiles,

00:51:08.700 anyone who allows that garbage, uh, is the devil in my opinion. And the opinion of most people, 1.00

00:51:14.340 especially the victims. And it's just disgusting that the Catholic church has allowed this, this

00:51:19.620 stuff to happen, um, under our, um, watchful eye. You're absolutely right. Uh, on the resignation of 0.62

00:51:26.400 the last Pope, he knew something, he saw something, he didn't like something and he was going to say

00:51:31.300 something and he got the hell out of there. He was pushed out of there. Uh, and then they somehow

00:51:36.180 bring in this guy, Roger, who's this globalist socialist. Now I don't want to talk bad about

00:51:40.420 the dead, but it's what it was. Uh, he wanted open borders except for the Vatican. Judgment on

00:51:46.880 Pope Francis has moved up to a much, much higher authority than you and I, John. Yep. You're

00:51:52.420 absolutely right. Roger, before we wrap up, uh, president Trump taking the stage in just a few

00:51:56.660 moments here, as I said, we're going to be carrying the rally right here, uh, on this channel. Uh,

00:52:01.600 the link is in the, uh, the comment section. Um, what do you expect to hear out of president

00:52:06.320 Trump in just a few moments as he rallies folks in, in Michigan on his first hundred days in office?

00:52:12.860 Does he take aim at anybody specifically? Maybe your good friend, JDB Pritzker, who's been out on

00:52:18.020 the trail lately. Let me know. This guy is so fat when he walks down the street, the cops say,

00:52:24.400 break it up. I mean, it's just, it's, it's beyond belief. And frankly, if any Republican

00:52:30.760 said what he said this week, uh, visiting New Hampshire, where he evidently thinks he's a

00:52:36.700 potential presidential candidate, if any Republican said, we can't give these Republicans a moment of

00:52:43.680 peace, essentially calling for insurrection. Uh, I remember after January 6th, if in a speech,

00:52:50.640 you use the word fight as in fight for America, fight for freedom, you were accused of fomenting

00:52:57.040 violence. Uh, I think Pritzker, uh, I think he advocated violence. I think he advocated sedition.

00:53:04.100 Of course he will not be held responsible. Uh, Trump, uh, I'll say this, he'll be funny that you do

00:53:12.660 know. He'll be entertaining and he'll be funny. Uh, he's going to talk about the, uh, the, both the

00:53:18.700 high points of the first hundred days, but he's also, I think, could be quite honest about the

00:53:23.160 challenges that lie ahead. The most important thing about this rally, my opinion is his safety

00:53:29.480 at the rally. That's the most important thing I pray over. Yeah. Especially Roger. The fact that

00:53:35.840 we still don't know anything about the two shooters of president Trump, uh, the silver lining and J.B.

00:53:41.100 Pritzker running for president Rogers, they get them the hell out of Illinois. I hope, uh, that

00:53:46.260 someone like Rod Blagojevich decides to look at taking a run at something once again, because,

00:53:52.240 uh, of what they did to him. Not enough people, I got to actually call him. Not enough people know

00:53:56.720 about what they did to him. Um, that guy needs a second chance and he's got. Right now, John,

00:54:01.940 it would actually require a law. So they passed a law in Illinois. They said convicted felons can run

00:54:10.020 for public office unless their name is Rod Blagojevich, in which case they cannot. I kid you

00:54:16.140 not. No, I know. And that's what I'm saying. If anyone didn't realize, you know, Roger, real

00:54:21.060 quickly, when I remember that whole trial playing out, uh, when I was young, I was young at the time,

00:54:26.560 but I remember seeing Rod on TV and he looked like, uh, like a villain out of a, out of a movie.

00:54:32.060 And I'm like, this guy's guilty as hell. I mean, just look at him. He's guilty as hell.

00:54:35.980 And it wasn't up until a few years ago where I read into this thing, Roger. And I see that

00:54:40.660 in the first trial that, that he was, uh, that they had a hung jury on every count. And then 15

00:54:46.360 minutes later, they come back and do it. And I don't know if people know about what they did to

00:54:49.520 that man. Uh, he deserves a second chance at life. Uh, I agree entirely. First of all,

00:54:55.840 he's one of the most talented political leaders I've ever met. Uh, and try walking down the street

00:55:00.680 with him in Chicago. He's absolutely beloved. This is really simple. The government

00:55:05.380 claimed that they had a wire chapped audio tape of a conversation, which he solicited a bribe.

00:55:11.860 They never played the tape in court. Uh, his defense was quite simple. Roger's defense was

00:55:19.880 play the tape. If I said that play the tape, they managed to convict him without ever presenting him

00:55:26.680 with the evidence of his crime. It's really outrageous. It is the, probably the first example

00:55:32.120 of weaponization of the criminal justice system. Yep. I have a tremendous, uh, the first day I met

00:55:38.220 him, I introduced myself and he told me the first thing he said to me was he apologized for Lou's

00:55:42.820 passing. I was with Lou's wife at the time. And, uh, he said Lou Dobbs was Donald Trump before Donald

00:55:48.340 Trump was Donald Trump. And it gave me chills because you know, he's not the only person I've

00:55:52.300 said that Roger, you get the last word here as always. It's, it's, it's always fascinating and

00:55:57.480 a great deal of fun, uh, to talk with you on the show. By the way, this sits on my desk, Roger,

00:56:02.360 um, in my studio here every day. Now, uh, you get the last word here as we wrap up until next week.

00:56:10.600 Yeah. I made a few calls last night. This, this, uh, rampant rumor that Pete Hegseth is on the verge

00:56:17.900 of resigning. He's leaving. He's on his way out. That's complete bullshit. It's not true. Uh, and,

00:56:24.200 uh, I guess my other message to everybody out there is don't be a panic in the course.

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00:57:05.160 tri-state w a b c radio, w a b c radio.com. Um, if you're elsewhere, Roger, we'll see you next

00:57:11.520 week. God bless you. And Godspeed, John. Thanks everybody for being with us tonight. And a reminder,

00:57:17.220 if you keep it right here on the great America show, we have the link right here for you in the

00:57:20.900 chat. Uh, we'll be carrying the Trump rally for you tonight, live from Michigan, uh, just after this

00:57:26.140 show wraps up, uh, once again, it'll be right here on Lou Dobbs media channel. Um, bringing it to you

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00:57:36.840 with us, uh, through this, uh, for that rally. Um, if not, if you have other plans, we'll see you

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The Great America Show - May 04, 2025

The Great America Sunday Show： May 4, 2025

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