THE MARXIST DEMS ARE POISONING THE NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS TO DAMAGE J6 JURIES AND DEFENDANTS BEYOND REPAIR
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Defendant Joe McBride joins Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to discuss Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the Supreme Court's decision to strike down New York's ban on concealed carry, and the decision to overturn Roe V. Wade.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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And let me say, I had one of the most restful, relaxing weekends in ages, and I hope you did, too.
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Last week, in a great victory for the Second Amendment, the Supreme Court struck down New York's outrageous gun law that restricted concealed carry.
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And then, the very next day, the high court overturned Roe v. Wade.
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It was an amazing week for truth, justice, and the American way.
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Thank you, Lord. And I have to tell you, I haven't felt this good about our country in a very long time.
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Freedom, freedom is once again ringing throughout America.
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You can feel it. You can hear it. Just listen. It is ringing once again.
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And after Friday's Supreme Court rulings, I took a number of deep breaths, and I said again, thank you, Lord.
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Thank you. And I'll be doing that for quite some time.
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And we have a great deal to be thankful for in this country, not only for Friday's decision, but this Supreme Court's integrity and its courage.
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This Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, rolling back a half-century of darkness
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and ending 50 years of contrived legal interpretation that was on its face, always specious, tortured, and preposterous judicial activism
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that created a constitutional right of abortion from thin air.
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Justices Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett,
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are heroic in their stand for the integrity of the Constitution
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and in their insistence that both Roe and Casey be overturned
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and the issue of abortion be returned to the states
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We, the people, and the people in each of those 50 states
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And yes, we should be sure to applaud President Trump's nominations
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of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett, without whom this historic decision would have never occurred.
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We should also note that a fourth conservative justice would likely be on the court, or at least soon.
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Were it not for the irregularities, the anomalies, the ballot trafficking, Zuckerberg's half-billion dollars,
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George Soros' funded accomplices, and millions of ballots that weren't signature verified,
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and Attorney General William Barr's decision not to intervene in an election won by the candidate
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who lied about his son's laptop contents, had vital support from 51 intelligence officials,
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including five former CIA directors, who lied in saying it was all Russian disinformation,
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and shut down the national media, who then refused to report the truth.
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And the Attorney General William Barr knew it all the time, that it was all a lie, in support of Biden,
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and he refused to tell the truth to the American people.
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In not intervening in the 2020 election, Barr intervened on behalf of the man he knew to be corrupt
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and lying to the American people, Joe Biden, and there is no excuse.
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Washington has a tremendous shortage of courage and integrity.
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Thank God for Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.
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The Marxist Dems and the puppet president, Biden, have spent months trying to intimidate
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Demonstrations and protests outside their homes.
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One man arrested near Justice Kavanaugh's home, arrested for attempted murder of Justice Kavanaugh.
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And since their ruling, street violence in Portland and other cities,
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more threats against their lives and the court, the Marxist Dems calling for packing of the Supreme Court now,
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once again, and the end of the filibuster, once again.
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The left's bent to totalitarianism is ever sharper by the day.
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They shout in the streets, the Supreme Court is illegitimate, that they'll ignore the court and the law,
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just as they do whether it's bail for killers, an open border for the drug smuggling, sex trafficking, drug cartels,
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the Biden refusal to remove illegal immigrants.
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Meanwhile, the Marxist left isn't letting up on its efforts to smear President Trump
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to punish hundreds of our fellow citizens who were on Capitol grounds on January 6th,
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some of them incarcerated for the past year and a half.
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Our guest today is defense attorney Joe McBride.
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He represents a number of January 6th defendants.
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Joe is working tirelessly for those defendants and, yes, all the rest in this nightmare conflict
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Joe McBride, thanks for being with us on The Great America Show.
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And we've got a lot to cover, but I want to first go to the Supreme Court decision
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to strike down New York's concealed carry law and get your interpretation.
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So, the law that was on the books essentially required people to prove some type of special
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type of circumstance in order to demonstrate that they needed to carry a firearm for self-protection,
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meaning that outside of the House, you needed to prove special circumstances.
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That runs in contravention to the Second Amendment and to years and years and years of case law,
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which says that the constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not a second-class right,
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subject to an entirely different body of rules, anything other than the Bill of Rights and what that guarantees.
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So, Bill of Rights says you can carry a firearm for self-defense, and that is enough.
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So, in the application process, if you put down self-defense, that should be enough.
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The New York law prior to today said you had the right self-defense plus something else.
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The plus something else part of it got thrown out today.
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New Yorkers, it's going to be a lot easier for a New Yorker to carry a gun outside of their home going forward,
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which is a good thing because it's what the Constitution intended,
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and good people do have a right to defend themselves against criminals who carry guns and don't respect the law anyway.
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Exactly. And one of the things that we do know, for example, is that New Jersey, New York,
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they use the special circumstances and the purpose as a way to slow roll everyone's application for a concealed weapon.
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Effectively, they don't approve any of them unless they're friends of the governor or whatever.
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Will they be able to still slow roll you, make you take a year or two to get a concealed weapon,
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or are they going to have to simply look at you, say you're either an upstanding citizen,
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you have your papers in order, and here's your permit?
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It should be expeditious in purpose and in effect.
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I mean, New York is notoriously slow on everything,
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but I would imagine that there is going to be a certain level of scrutiny on the way this law is enforced going forward.
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And, you know, when you have people saying that we're just going to ignore it,
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like the governor or the mayor, I think that's going to bring different levels of scrutiny.
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You have all these white sort of saviors, these white liberal elitist saviors in New York City and in the Northeast.
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And, you know, the fear and outrage currently being expressed by white liberal saviors,
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it's like a collective Freudian slip, which shows the whole world how uncomfortable these white liberal saviors really are
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with strong black men like Clarence Thomas, number one, giving them an order and telling them this is the law,
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And number two, the possibility of blacks and Latinos actually arming themselves or other whites arming themselves in the world that we live in.
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If they trusted everybody so much and if they really believed in half the crap they were pushing,
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But because they're not, they can't help themselves.
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And their hypocrisy is just coming out of all their orifices today.
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And Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, telling people nothing changes today.
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I mean, you talk about him being connected to George Soros.
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He's connected to the international Marxist DEM congregation.
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When are these numbskulls, is there anyone in New York who can run for mayor,
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who would be halfway decent, have a sense of public service obligation,
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and actually do the right and fair thing for its citizens?
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He, saying that you're not going to follow Supreme Court precedent is ridiculous.
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He's doing it because he thinks he's going to get away with it.
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And if he runs in contravention to it, there will be grounds to remove him from office.
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He is not loyal to the United States or the people of New York City,
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of which I am a citizen of both New York City and the United States.
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He's obviously loyal to this international Marxist order,
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which one thing it definitely doesn't want is people to have guns.
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Are there people in New York who are capable of running?
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Will somebody rise and run at some time in the near future?
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This system is going to crumble under the weight of its own hypocrisy
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because it underestimates the spirit of freedom and liberty in this country,
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which no Marxist idea or set of ideals is ever going to be able to defeat.
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As a matter of fact, the ideals are intended to destroy capitalism,
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to destroy this republic, and to destroy democracy.
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I want to say, too, I've always believed that the surest way of establishing respect for one another
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is to know that the man or woman across from you,
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whether you're driving a car or whether you're walking along the street,
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to know that they are actually armed is a great way to engender respect for people.
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It is the idea of mutually assured destruction.
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You know, you, just because you're a woman or an older person or a handicapped person
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or a smaller person, somebody who's physically stronger than you
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or a group of people who may try to do you harm,
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will do that to you if all you have is sort of your fisticuffs, right?
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But if you're going to break into grandma's house at 3 o'clock in the morning
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and you know that, you know, grandma's got a .44 Magnum waiting to smoke you on the other side of it,
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You see a group of guys trying to get into a house and grandma blast them through the door.
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And I think it's the greatest thing since apple pie because they,
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most people have no right to do that and they got what they were looking for.
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I would like to see every citizen in this country carrying a weapon, period.
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It's time to sit there and say, I'm going to wait for the police to show up.
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Well, eight minutes later, 18 minutes later, an hour and a half,
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you could do an eternity worth of waiting because that's what can happen very quickly.
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And people have to have a sense that they can be responsible for their personal safety
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And this business that they're the road we're on right now with this idiot,
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John Korn and the Senator from Texas joining up with Joe Biden and all of the,
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the little rhino creeps that the Republican party has, you know,
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And everyone should laugh them out and tell them, you know,
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and I don't want to hear from the Republicans, by the way, in the Senate.
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I want to see them do something about it instead of just, you know,
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blather on like Mitch McConnell does every time.
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so does every single person who's been charged by the January 6th committee.
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And I want to know, because you represent at least a half dozen of them,
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I'd like to know the status here, first and foremost,
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about what is happening to our fellow citizens who have had the great misfortune
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I just want to make one last final comment about the thing.
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which was written and drafted primarily by justice Thomas,
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and it was released today on his birthday is just one of the most savage
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things that he could have ever done as a Patriot.
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this is my birthday and this is what I'm going to give you to the world.
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he's just sticking the middle finger up and holding the flag in his other
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I want to wish you Clarence Thomas a happy birthday.
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wonderful gift to the American people on your birthday,
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Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene spoke with passion.
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And then we had multiple family members who spoke out that day as well.
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the myriad abuses that have taken place both in the court and in the jails.
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in front of Congress and the proceedings themselves affected the outcome of the
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convictions were eventually tossed and we just don't see how we can get a
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but now that they're doing this in prime time and they're poisoning the
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I'd submit that there's no way to get a fair trial.
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and that even if we blow a trial in some of these cases,
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we'll certainly have something to argue about because the jury pool,
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there is no non-biased jury pool at this point.
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because this is ignorance beyond belief that we are even seeing this committee
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There's nothing in this that even remotely resembles due process.
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I think you make a brilliant point and one that should be taken seriously by
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habeas motion that the government just responded on.
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And that's going to be heard before judge McFadden.
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that the law supports the conclusion that he should be let out of jail.
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because his due process rights not to be punished,
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And because there's been deliberate indifference to his medical condition,
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that those are more than sufficient grounds for him to be released.
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because he's a military veteran with PTSD and they've used,
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solitary confinement and other things as a means to punish him.
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So those guys sort of have a soon ish window of possibly getting out.
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generally my guys and the rest of everybody else,
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If you look at the people in the proud boys cases or the oath keepers cases,
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I have charges where you're facing life in prison.
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You have now have the January six committee poisoning,
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It's worse than nine 11 is worse than the civil war.
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These people are domestic terrorists and they're insurrectionists and so on and so forth.
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all the leading members of three branches of government,
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making these statements in conjunction with the,
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they're keeping them in jail under horrible conditions the entire time as well.
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Why is there not a remedy in law for this kind of outrageous political persecution?
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How is it that we don't have a remedy in American law?
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Anytime we say your due process rights have been violated.
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They jumped to a conclusion and they violated your rights somehow.
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they're violating due process rights by punishing people before they've been convicted.
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They're violating due process rights by interfering with the right to counsel.
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They're violating the due process rights by publicly trying these people without a meaningful
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opportunity to cross-examine the witnesses in these hearings.
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these people are being declared guilty in the court of public opinion.
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And because of many of these families are middle to lower class,
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they're taking care of their family and they don't have anything extra on the table.
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to fight these cases because of how much time and energy and resources this,
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So that's why we have crowd raised and sort of crowd funded.
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And we appeal to people all the time to give and to donate to these legal funds.
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We're never going to get rich over these cases.
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It's so that these guys can have a meaningful opportunity to litigate all of the issues in court and not just some of them.
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How long have these clients of yours been in jail,
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Some of them being in prison going on 18 months now since January of 21.
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How is it possible in America for somebody to be in that situation?
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the FBI can arrest him for contempt of Congress and put him in handcuffs and,
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Maybe we should actually take a strong look at the election fraud,
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let's look into what's going on because he had the,
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the audacity to speak the truth when it mattered.
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the office of the inspector general showed up with a team of officers in,
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and just showed up and took everything from him.
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This is the inspector general did this inspector general,
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an American citizen should be treated like this.
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And we're seeing it becoming increasingly frequent common,
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Conduct is involved in the very thing that we're outraged about.
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I thought the fourth amendment protected us from all that.
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It gives us a reasonable expectation of privacy in our persons,
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a man or a woman's house is their castle in your reasonable expectation of
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Your constitutional protections are at your highest level when you are,
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And they don't care because the federal government has grown too strong.
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grown too strong because it has bought off the states and their sovereignty
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through grants and loans and this and that and tax reimbursements and
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We participate in this union because it's beneficial for us,
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but at no place or time should you ever be acting like you have absolute
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all the way up to the top of the governors and the state representatives,
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and that the state representatives in Congress actually do the bidding of
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to these reports that the January six committee is lining up the idea of
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And they're coming up with all sorts of nonsense.
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But obviously they think this is something that they can get away with.
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my initial reaction is it's like you have a party,
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and then these uninvited guests who you don't like show up and then they
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But what they're also very much doing is they're taking people who may have
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And they are working overtime to convince those people that January six was an
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once those personal conclusions have been drawn about the matter already,
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that person is no longer qualified to be a juror.
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If you've already made a decision in your heart and your mind about these
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I think it was his last adjournment was the ninth of June.
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I have very deep concerns about collusion between these two branches of
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They are actively working to circumvent the protections that criminal defendants
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So I'm going to file a motion in that case because the judge did not like what he
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And just just recently the lawyers in the proud boys cases,
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are expected to go to trial in August and they were able to get it
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postponed at least I think until December for those exact reasons.
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we're just going to continue these hearings down the road.
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And what I see is that the committee is mirroring much of the steps that the,
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the adjournments and the movements that are happening in these criminal cases
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in order to concurrently travel all the way down to the point of no return
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So they could continue to poison the pool up until the very last day.
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It's just one thing after another with these people.
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I don't know what it would take somebody with decency and authority,
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a disinformation campaign that's being waged by the,
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The department of justice wants to know if Sidney Powell is funding the
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if anyone else other than your client is paying for their defense,
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this organization is going to pay half of the retainer or half of the
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And that's a good thing for the people who have been accused.
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So what they're trying to do is first trying to shut the crowdfunding
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organizations down because they don't want these people to have a fair
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there's other like Patriot Freedom Project is the organization that I
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but I work with Patriot Freedom Project because I love them.
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I think that they do great work and I've had great experiences with them.
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defending the Republic or prison is record or whoever it is.
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These are the organizations that you should go to.
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is trying to do here with this case is because defending the Republic is
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Sidney Powell participated in the election litigation that took place and was not
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She's also participating or loosely affiliated with anti-COVID litigation.
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And now we're connecting her from the election into the election fraud arena to the insurrection
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They are doing that because they are trying to show a chain of custody or a chain of relationships
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that articulate these people as terrorist financiers and defenders.
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If you were looking at a Hezbollah or the Al Qaeda network in the Middle East,
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We need to put them up against the wall and we need to shoot them.
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That is why they are calling people terrorists.
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That is why they are bringing Sidney Powell and other people into this,
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because they're trying to say that this network of patriotic people who are
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defending people in these cases are not really doing that,
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that they are more of more like a crime family or an organized terrorist
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organization that should be stamped out by the government.
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When you compare this to the way that we have shut down entire countries or
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this is this is the this is the playbook one on one.
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If that is the methodology, why in the world isn't anybody tying together Perkins
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Coy, the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton campaign, the George Soros money,
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Well, hey, this country, George Soros is funny.
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Do you realize that people were knocked off the air in networks because they said the name George Soros?
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People are actually able to say the name George Soros and connect him to many of the prosecutors,
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some 75 of them who were all committed to chaos on the streets and the defeat of law and order in the name of,
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Why isn't the Republican Party doing exactly the same thing?
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Well, because the members of the Republican Party who who you see selling out in gun legislation and not helping the January 6th people,
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those people are their loyalties clearly belong to the people who have paid them off.
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They're not loyal to the people, their constituency or this country.
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They're concerned about green and being on the right side of George Soros's payroll.
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That is clearly obvious and that's why these people need to be voted out and that they're going to be voted out.
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They're not going to they're not going to be there in a couple of years.
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Any one of them who came out on the right side of this will be gone regarding what you said about the Clintons and all that other stuff.
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Well, we know that perfectly healthy people tend to kill themselves all the time.
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Anytime they really, you know, speak about what what they have done and about what is going on.
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It's an unfortunate thing. International money needs to be taken out of politics altogether.
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You know, there there's a lot of dirty international money, international influence, whether it's from Soros or Saudi Arabia or wherever it's coming from.
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It has no place in the American media and that has no place in American politics.
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And I would like to see legislation that abolishes that type of infiltration and influence once and for all.
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And, you know, the only president that we've had who could take those steps to make that happen is Donald J.
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Trump. And that's the reason that the left in this country, the Marxist left, the Democratic Party they control, have been fighting him from the moment.
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He was a candidate trying to frame him, running disinformation campaigns against him, including the so-called Russian collusion that was the architect of which was Hillary Clinton.
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And that is created two failed impeachments, a special counsel investigation that lasted for almost two years.
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The FBI investigating throughout from 2016 to this very damn moment.
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These poor people, some of whom you represent, have no voice.
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I'm talking about in the in the political realm.
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I mean, without you, no one would know what's happening.
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She does a terrific job of reporting, in my opinion, on the January six victims.
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But to your point, also, I want to just add this.
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Lindsey Graham, John Cornyn, Tom Tillis, Roy Blunt, Rob Portman, Richard Burr, Senator Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins, Pat Toomey, and Mitt Romney.
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There is your hit parade of egg-sucking rhinos who I think deserve.
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Well, I don't even tell you what I think they deserve.
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But anyway, your thoughts here, Joe, as we head toward wrapping up.
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And, you know, the famous story of Troy, the Trojan horse, you know, you let people behind the wall.
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This is sort of like, for me, the inverse Trojan horse.
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You have people from all over the country, from all 50 states and territories from all over the world.
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But what's relevant here is the people from the United States, the actual states themselves, from all 50 states, they went to the Capitol on January 6th.
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And now people from all of those states and their family members and their communities and their friends have all been affected by these unfair prosecutions, these horrible, horrible experiences inside.
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The raping and pillaging of family resources, cancellation in the workplace and online, so on and so forth.
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It's relevant because while the experience was centralized in Washington, D.C., these people are taking all these experiences back to the community.
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And because these are good people, they're not inherently bad people, they're patriotic people, they're God-fearing people.
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They have families and they have communities who have been affected by this as well.
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And not only see the corruption, but say, I want to get involved and I want to make a difference.
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I get involved and I want to make a difference is specifically why I became an attorney.
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And it's specifically why people run for office.
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So when these people who are in office now and these communities are watching them, somebody from each one of these communities is going to say, I am going to run against that person.
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And I'm going to say I'm going to do the exact opposite of what they have done.
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I'm going to make sure that somebody like this never gets elected in the state again.
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And I'm going to go into Washington and I'm going to bring about change.
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And because so many people have been are being hurt by the government, the federal government at this point, and they're in all these different states, that is going to provoke a new type of candidate, a new type of culture and a new type of understanding and a willingness to get involved in government.
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And by them trying to suppress and stamp out everybody, what they're really going to do is they're going to bring elected officials into that building.
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And they're going to be out of government once and for all.
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Thanks for all you're doing for your clients and for all of us by representing them so well.
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Thank you for being with us here on The Great America Show.
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And you can reach him at McBride, that's M-C-B-R-I-D-E, McBrideLawNYC.
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Here tomorrow on The Great America Show, our guest will be Congressman Corey Mills.