The Great America Show - This is CRIMINAL! J6 Committee caught seizing 30 MILLION Phone Records!

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.

00:00:05.060 It's great to have you with us on this beautiful day in America.

00:00:07.000 Thank you so much for spending part of your day or evening with us.

00:00:09.820 We always appreciate it.

00:00:12.160 Just when you thought the January 6th sham couldn't get any worse, folks, it gets worse.

00:00:18.100 Congressional investigators collected a stunning 30 million phone lines of phone data mapping

00:00:24.640 connections between conservatives and the Trump White House in the name of investigating

00:00:28.540 the January 6th Capitol breach.

00:00:32.280 That's right, folks.

00:00:33.360 We're just finding out this week that the FBI, not under Cash Patel, of course, but the FBI

00:00:40.280 under Christopher Wray was spying on 30 million phone lines, now 30 million phone line connections

00:00:47.600 between people who are connected with Trump or people around Trump.

00:00:51.980 I probably am connected in there somehow, some way.

00:00:55.140 Now, the phone records, the collection was revealed to the FBI, that was read by Chris

00:01:00.520 Ray, in late 2023 by none other than Adam Kinzinger.

00:01:06.120 You remember Adam crying, Adam Kinzinger?

00:01:08.460 The catch was offered to the Bureau on the eve of the 2024 election as evidence without requiring

00:01:13.960 a warrant, according to an FBI document memorializing the offer that was reviewed by Just the News.

00:01:19.540 The memo says that Adam Kinzinger told the FBI that the phone data had been collected by

00:01:25.140 then-former Democrat rep, Denver Ringelman, an ex-Republican, who was a staffer on the Capitol

00:01:32.500 Hill riot committee, who later helped Hunter Biden's legal team in its effort to cast doubts

00:01:37.740 on the laptop belonging to Joe Biden's son, the Russia collusion, the Russia laptop.

00:01:44.080 It's Russian disinformation.

00:01:47.120 So we're now finding out 30 million phone lines.

00:01:49.860 Tap, folks.

00:01:51.220 Spied on.

00:01:52.220 In just a few moments, we're going to be talking to my good friend and friend of the Great

00:01:55.560 America Show, Russ Tice, former senior NSA intel analyst, to get his take on this and his

00:02:02.800 take on just how much deeper this corruption runs.

00:02:05.860 Just how much deeper their surveillance state runs, just how much more abuse we're getting

00:02:14.280 out of the Patriot Act.

00:02:17.240 Warrantless phone records.

00:02:20.000 Now, this is in, of course, addition to the eight plus members of Congress and the Senate

00:02:25.060 whose phone lines were surveilled under Jack Smith.

00:02:29.220 It's this whole web of corruption, folks, that's finally starting to be untangled.

00:02:37.020 Now, we found out that in addition to those eight, Ted Cruz's lines were also attempted

00:02:42.520 to be tapped.

00:02:43.820 A subpoena was served to AT&T, to which AT&T did not comply with the subpoena.

00:02:48.200 We're working on getting some more information on that, but we're just finding out about that

00:02:51.380 this week to figure out if that was ever litigated in court, because we've never heard about that

00:02:57.760 as well.

00:02:59.220 So, the corruption, folks, only continues to get worse as we find out now that 30 million

00:03:05.580 phone lines were entangled in the Marxist Dems and Rhinos' January 6th sham committee.

00:03:12.740 So, like I said, we're going to take that up with former senior NSA intel analyst Russ Tice

00:03:16.540 in just a few moments, but I want to get to some news of the day.

00:03:23.860 President Trump this afternoon having a luncheon out on his new Rose Garden before the weather

00:03:28.800 starts to get a little bit more chilling.

00:03:30.800 He won't be able to use it as freely as he'd like.

00:03:33.980 By the way, that new expansion has happened on the White House, and it's got the Democrats

00:03:38.480 going absolutely berserk. 0.88

00:03:41.780 They're going nuts.

00:03:44.040 Donald Trump is ripping down the White House 120 years old.

00:03:48.300 God forbid he renovates the place and pays for it himself, as if the White House never went

00:03:58.400 through any renovations, right?

00:04:00.100 As if the White House was never fixed up. 0.99

00:04:04.720 I mean, these people are absolutely insane. 0.75

00:04:06.680 President Trump in that luncheon this afternoon calling on the Democrats to stop the madness, 0.90

00:04:12.300 open up the government, and end this nonsense once and for all.

00:04:15.600 Today, I'm calling on every Senate Democrat to stop the madness, to let our country get

00:04:20.580 back.

00:04:21.320 In the greatest moment in the history of our country, in terms of wealth, in terms of job

00:04:27.060 creation, and in terms of investment coming in, these guys go on strike.

00:04:33.420 It's really a shame.

00:04:34.420 So I'm asking them to be smart.

00:04:38.020 It's not working.

00:04:39.080 They're getting killed in the polls.

00:04:40.540 The public understands what they're doing.

00:04:42.440 They're doing the wrong thing.

00:04:44.800 Now, all of this in addition, folks, as President Trump's administration continues to make America

00:04:49.200 greater than President Trump is set to shattered deportation records by the end of 2025.

00:04:54.480 More than 2 million illegals already left the country so far.

00:04:58.920 1.6 million reportedly self-deported.

00:05:01.120 More than 400,000 deported by DHS.

00:05:04.420 DHS is saying they expect another 600,000 to be deported before the end of the year,

00:05:10.140 bringing it up just over 2.5 million on the year.

00:05:13.020 So I think that's a great number.

00:05:16.580 I think they can do better and they will do better.

00:05:18.680 But with what we've seen the last four years, any number of deportations, I'm being facetious,

00:05:25.740 of course, is great because we've had plus numbers for the last four years of illegals coming into this country.

00:05:33.140 Now, President Trump also at that luncheon this afternoon addressed a big issue, and it's air travel.

00:05:38.660 The holiday season is coming up.

00:05:40.180 We're about a month out from Thanksgiving. 0.57

00:05:42.880 The FAA is all types of screwed up.

00:05:45.160 For any of you folks who travel, I travel a lot more than I should be and more than I want to be.

00:05:50.300 I can't tell you the last time I was on a flight into New York that wasn't delayed because of some sort of air traffic control flow program because of shortage of staffing.

00:05:59.220 I mean, this is scary stuff, folks.

00:06:00.740 As a pilot, a commercial pilot myself, it scares the heck out of me to know that the Democrats and the government is playing games with one of the most critical things that we do in our daily lives, flying air travel, which is statistically safer than driving a car accident-wise.

00:06:22.120 But the Democrats are playing games.

00:06:24.740 President Trump addressed that earlier this afternoon.

00:06:27.440 We've already seen the impacts of the dangerous game that they're playing.

00:06:31.140 Democrats are causing delays in our air traffic control system.

00:06:35.240 So important.

00:06:36.720 We wouldn't have had, you know, this Pete Buttigieg.

00:06:39.400 He spent billions of dollars on fixing the air traffic control.

00:06:43.760 They'd use copper wire going into glass wire.

00:06:47.080 Any union electrician here or any non-union electrician would say you can't hook copper into glass.

00:06:54.160 It doesn't work.

00:06:54.900 They spend billions of dollars.

00:06:56.840 They turned on the system, and it was stone cold blank.

00:07:01.540 We're getting a brand new system.

00:07:03.880 We have bids out now.

00:07:04.960 We have three great companies bidding.

00:07:07.140 And I want one bid.

00:07:08.440 Sean Duffy is doing terrifically.

00:07:10.040 I want one bid.

00:07:11.420 I want just bid, and they're responsible for everything.

00:07:14.920 Not we had.

00:07:15.800 They had like a thousand contractors.

00:07:17.620 Every contractor, they were all running around.

00:07:19.900 In the end, if one of them does a bad job, we want to be able to blame somebody.

00:07:24.000 And it's going to be one of the very big companies because there's a lot of interest in it.

00:07:28.380 So the air traffic control system is going to be rebuilt.

00:07:31.980 Over one million federal workers right now, as you know, are going unpaid.

00:07:37.080 That's the Democrats' fault.

00:07:38.980 And children, tourists unable to visit the museums in Washington, D.C.

00:07:43.460 that we now have beautiful, safe streets, but we don't have the museums open.

00:07:48.300 We should probably just open them.

00:07:50.480 But we are doing things that nobody's ever done, nobody's ever seen.

00:07:55.160 So all of this and the pain that the Democrats have caused during this reckless and completely

00:08:00.900 unnecessary affair, and you could call it the Schumer shutdown or the Democrat shutdown.

00:08:07.320 You can call it whatever you want.

00:08:09.280 And scary stuff, folks, scary stuff.

00:08:12.800 The Democrats are playing games with the lives of every single American.

00:08:16.200 It's not just the paycheck.

00:08:17.180 It's it's the the fact of getting on an airplane and not having to worry about any issues happening

00:08:23.580 in the air because of a depleted and obsolete air traffic control system.

00:08:28.640 Very, very scary stuff.

00:08:29.920 We're going to take a quick break here, folks.

00:08:31.180 On the other side of this quick break, we're going to be joined by Russ Tice, former senior

00:08:34.600 NSA intel analyst and whistleblower.

00:08:37.000 We're going to get his take on the latest 30 million phone lines surveilled.

00:08:41.980 We're going to get his take on Tulsi Gabbard and the work she's doing and John Radcliffe

00:08:45.860 having some rough days.

00:08:48.360 We're going to get his take on that.

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00:09:26.320 Now, as promised, our guest today is former senior NSA intel analyst and whistleblower,

00:09:31.840 the great Russ Tice.

00:09:32.700 Russ, it's been a while, so it's a delight to have you back.

00:09:37.280 I want to start with first a big story out this week that January 6th investigators sees

00:09:44.160 30 million phone lines and records to hunt Trump allies.

00:09:49.800 Now, the story says now this is in addition, Russ, to the eight senators and members of

00:09:55.220 Congress that we find out that Jack Smith were surveilling.

00:09:58.000 But the story from The Daily Caller goes on to say congressional investigators collected tens

00:10:01.940 of millions of phone records in an effort to map connections between conservatives and the Trump

00:10:06.700 White House as part of the Democrat-led January 6th investigation, according to FBI memos obtained

00:10:12.780 by our friend John Solomon at Just the News.

00:10:15.060 The memo states that the trove revealed the FBI by ex-former ex-congressman, they call him

00:10:21.340 a Republican, but he's not really a Republican, Adam Kinzinger, contained roughly 30 million

00:10:25.580 lines of phone data without a warrant, Russ.

00:10:30.020 Kinzinger told the Bureau the records have been compiled by former GOP rep Denver Ringelman,

00:10:36.280 senior advisor to the January 6th panel, who has since worked for Hunter Biden's legal team,

00:10:40.620 according to the outlet.

00:10:42.320 So a lot of the same names there, Russ, but 30 million lines of communication with no warrant?

00:10:53.200 Now, think about that.

00:10:54.860 And this was, this was, the timeline is very interesting here.

00:10:58.960 When was that information originally obtained and from who?

00:11:03.660 Was it obtained from the phone companies themselves?

00:11:06.620 Which I think under the revamped Patriot Act, they allowed phone companies to start keeping

00:11:13.440 them for, I think, either six months to a year.

00:11:16.820 Just, just the metadata.

00:11:18.480 Remember, the metadata is just the, the information of, well, when the call was made, what phone

00:11:24.360 number, to who, from one, to, to, to what number, how long, and, and all that originally

00:11:31.120 is for billing information.

00:11:32.540 So that the phone company knows how much to charge the people that are using the phones.

00:11:37.540 So that information is the metadata that the names of the people on the phone numbers are

00:11:44.060 not, are not supposed to be collected by the, the database.

00:11:47.820 But of course, the phone company has that information because they got to know who to send the bill

00:11:52.600 to, of course, but there's a, when, when we would do this at the NSA, this sort of thing,

00:12:00.260 you, you send out, you'd look at all this.

00:12:02.940 I'd say we're doing this overseas.

00:12:04.600 You might get 30 million contacts for an area or something that you're looking for.

00:12:10.220 Um, then you take all that information and then you, you start, you, you put it through

00:12:16.180 filters and you, you look for things that are said, words that you're looking for.

00:12:21.340 If you're looking for a terrorist and you're looking for something like jihad or that sort

00:12:24.520 of thing.

00:12:25.300 Um, you know, these are the, the other things you're looking for are code words that terrorists

00:12:30.600 know to use.

00:12:31.800 Weddings used to be one.

00:12:33.100 Um, so, so you filter all that information.

00:12:36.540 You, you look for certain numbers you have, then you look for contacts and numbers that

00:12:41.680 are associated with that number.

00:12:43.040 And then from there you get the word for word.

00:12:46.380 And then you start looking, then you start having humans put their earphones on to listen

00:12:51.880 literally to what the, what these people are saying.

00:12:54.480 So in other words, you're saying they take the metadata, they sift through the metadata,

00:12:58.400 they get the people they want, and then they have their conversations after that inside

00:13:02.360 of that metadata.

00:13:03.280 Is that correct?

00:13:04.140 Well, with NSA, they collect everything.

00:13:07.240 They would collect the metadata and they collect the word for word also.

00:13:11.400 So, but try to think of the metadata as when you, when the old days, when you go to the

00:13:15.740 library and you get the card catalog, so you're looking for a subject on, you're writing a thesis

00:13:20.440 in high school on, I don't know, um, you know, stock car races where it's the, it's the

00:13:26.980 who, when I'm going back to like third grade vocabulary, who, when, why.

00:13:32.360 I went, how, you know, just their name, the timestamp on it and wherever they're calling

00:13:37.480 from.

00:13:37.840 But you're telling me they're able to go now further into these conversations.

00:13:41.320 What were they looking for on 30 million Americans folks?

00:13:45.700 This is, this is 30 million Americans.

00:13:48.580 It's larger than the entire state of New York, including New York city.

00:13:52.900 Um, that's a lot of people, Russ.

00:13:54.660 Well, remember these are, they could be multiple calls.

00:13:57.620 They could be the same guy making 20 calls, um, in that, in that list.

00:14:02.800 So it's not necessarily 30 million Americans, but it's going to be a boatload of Americans

00:14:08.780 that are, that are involved in this.

00:14:10.580 So, so instead of, instead of the way we're looking for bad guys or terrorists and you're

00:14:15.540 using a word like jihad, say I use a word like, uh, Trump or, um, or some of the names

00:14:22.620 of, uh, of president Trump's children or some of his business, uh, um, uh, associates or

00:14:29.680 Roger Stone, who is one of your, you know, uh, uh, uh, folks that we see about every mile

00:14:36.100 a week with talking to you.

00:14:38.440 So these are, so you plug in all those words and there's other things that you filter numbers

00:14:43.900 that, you know, and then, then you, you run and then once you identify those, then you

00:14:49.320 identify numbers that are, that are calling those.

00:14:52.980 So you might get, you might get, uh, Roger Stone may call the white house, somebody, or

00:15:00.440 someone's connected with the white house.

00:15:01.760 Boom.

00:15:01.980 You got Roger Stone.

00:15:03.140 Then from Roger Stone, you, you find out who's talking to Roger Stone.

00:15:07.680 Oh, gee, John, uh, I assume you talked to Mr. Stone.

00:15:12.640 Guess what?

00:15:13.380 You're on that list, buddy.

00:15:14.400 Um, so, so that, that's how you, that's how you find out who, who the people are in this

00:15:21.600 case.

00:15:21.940 I'm pretty sure, uh, the target was president Trump.

00:15:25.460 So once you get all that information, you get all these phone numbers, you know where

00:15:29.740 they went.

00:15:30.260 Now there's a way to do this.

00:15:32.460 Uh, it's called traffic analysis where you don't have the contacts because they're encrypted.

00:15:38.540 And some of our bad guys, especially nation States, they know like the Russian military, 0.96

00:15:44.520 they know to encrypt their stuff, but then you do a traffic analysis.

00:15:47.460 Yeah, but I don't, Russ, I don't think these were, these are bad guys.

00:15:49.680 I think these are ordinary Americans who are supporting president Trump, but according to

00:15:53.960 our justice department and our Intel agencies, they were domestic terrorists.

00:15:57.760 So it's not like we're dealing with, uh, my opinion, at least for the vast majority of

00:16:03.820 I'm sure there can be some funneled in there, of course, like anything, but they're diluted

00:16:08.380 by, I think just ordinary Americans who went to January six, who supported president Trump.

00:16:13.960 I mean, all the things you listed above, uh, Roger Russ are me.

00:16:18.000 I speak to, you know, for example, Roger Stone at the time of January six, I was talking with

00:16:22.820 a lot of Trump people.

00:16:23.720 I was talking with people inside the administration who were, you know, three, four ranks away from

00:16:28.740 president Trump, uh, you know, texting, calling this and that.

00:16:32.540 So, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind, I was probably implicated in some of those things,

00:16:36.920 but the vast majority of these people were just regular people, Russ, like you and I

00:16:41.280 getting their data all snatched up for whatever reason.

00:16:44.760 Now, congressional members tell us Patriot Act is a must of FISA 702 must, but how are we

00:16:51.880 supposed to trust these people when time and time again, they just poke us in the eyes and

00:16:55.480 say, F you, uh, we're going to do what we want anyway.

00:16:58.700 Well, of course you can't trust them over and over.

00:17:02.640 They lie and they lie again.

00:17:04.080 And they, if you catch them at a certain point and breach a wall, they retreat to the next

00:17:08.820 line of defense.

00:17:09.700 And then the next line in the next line, I'll guarantee you, John, that this is more than

00:17:14.980 just metadata.

00:17:16.000 They're lying.

00:17:17.080 Once again, this is, they use this information and remember, you know, an enemy is whoever I

00:17:23.700 declare an enemy is.

00:17:24.700 If I declare J sixers to be enemies, then you're an enemy as opposed to a terrorist organization, 1.00

00:17:31.700 uh, you know, Al Qaeda or, or, or whoever oversees.

00:17:35.860 The Venezuelan drug lords pouring drugs into our country. 0.96

00:17:38.500 Right.

00:17:38.800 So if I, if the, the, the data is the data and how, how you use it and who did, who's declared

00:17:44.180 the enemy, the data is, is filtered.

00:17:47.360 However, you, you, you, you basically use that information and do what, and do the analysis

00:17:53.280 that I'm saying.

00:17:54.200 But, but once again, if the FBI is finding this out later in, in the fact, there's certainly

00:17:59.640 no way that Congress had the capability to do this kind of analysis.

00:18:04.160 And then why would they just need the, okay.

00:18:06.460 So John talked to, to, uh, to Mr. Stone, Mr. Stone talked to, to some, to some, uh, to

00:18:13.460 an, uh, a person that, uh, was working with president Trump and that person is very close

00:18:18.560 to president Trump.

00:18:19.260 So they got you like three or four layers out, but, but, but all who cares?

00:18:23.720 You know, what are they gonna do with that?

00:18:24.820 John, what they need is word for word.

00:18:27.780 After that, you, that is just the card catalog.

00:18:31.020 Now I've gone through the card catalog and I've identified the, I'm going to say like

00:18:35.780 a library book.

00:18:36.760 And one of those library books is John Fawcett.

00:18:39.320 The next library book is, is Roger Stone.

00:18:42.260 The next library book up is the, uh, white house, um, person.

00:18:47.380 And then the next book up is the, is the, the, the would be King, supposedly president Trump.

00:18:53.780 So once you have that and you have all the different people, then you go to get the word

00:18:59.860 for word that NSA has lied repeatedly that they don't get, which they lie.

00:19:05.160 I know starting in December of, of 2013 is when NSA opened up that facility in Bluffdale,

00:19:15.220 Utah to collect everything word for word.

00:19:18.680 Remember I use that analogy, even the girls that are talking about you, Johnny is in junior

00:19:22.940 high school, even that kind of nonsense that no one cares about everything.

00:19:28.060 Even, uh, Admiral Rogers came out and said, what don't you believe, you know, what don't

00:19:34.200 you understand about the word?

00:19:35.680 Everything, everything is word for word included and not in phone conversations and your emails,

00:19:43.780 everything.

00:19:45.160 So let me ask you this for us real quick.

00:19:46.960 Why is it that we're hearing from this, hearing about this from John Solomon, who by the way,

00:19:51.640 does terrific job, one of the greatest investigative journalists to ever walk this earth.

00:19:56.660 Why is it that we have to hear from it from John Solomon and not from our FBI director, not

00:20:00.400 from our CIA director, not for our director of the NSA or so on and so forth.

00:20:05.520 Why are we hearing from it from the news and not our government saying, Hey, uh, by the way,

00:20:11.680 uh, the Biden administration was doing X, Y, and Z or the, whatever the story may be.

00:20:18.280 Why are we not hearing it from it from, from, from them?

00:20:20.560 Well, for what I'm led to believe is that, uh, uh, cash Patel and Dan Bongino, that this

00:20:27.600 whole, this whole special, um, file or, or, uh, database was hidden, uh, from back, even when

00:20:36.080 Ray was in there from your average FBI officer. And then it was, it was basically, uh, put into

00:20:42.880 the, the background and hidden from, from our current director, uh, Mr. Patel. I mean, uh, yeah,

00:20:48.840 cash Patel. So, and, and director Bongino or deputy director, but how does John Solomon find it?

00:20:55.600 So how did John Solomon find it?

00:20:57.600 Well, whistleblower, this all comes down to whistleblowers. You know, you can have all the

00:21:02.560 IGs you want, and you can have all the, the committees are for, uh, you know, looking into,

00:21:09.600 into violations that are, that are normally always compromised because quite often all those

00:21:17.620 IGs and those committees that their own security clearances is, is contingent on the agencies that

00:21:23.320 they're supposed to be monitoring. So this would have to come from a whistleblower that Mr.

00:21:28.240 Solomon and, or of course, Mr. Grassley or Senator Grassley is sort of known as the, uh, the,

00:21:34.360 the godfather of whistleblowing. So, um, hasn't helped, uh, people like me so much, but, uh, um,

00:21:41.740 because the Intel community is still exempt from all the whistleblower laws. So that no, no one wants

00:21:48.820 to bring that up, but so someone has probably come through as a whistleblower, uh, probably the FBI,

00:21:56.720 I'm assuming, because remember those guys are trying to keep their jobs, um, to say, Hey, I know about

00:22:02.680 this, uh, this secret, uh, database and remember, so it came from Congress first, then supposedly to

00:22:09.580 the FBI, which is very interesting. And there's no, remember there's no way Congress or the FBI

00:22:14.640 has the capability to sift through that information. There's only one agency that can do it. That's NSA.

00:22:20.500 And we need to find out the connection from Congress, from that J6 committee to NSA, uh, and the, um,

00:22:29.560 the, and, and, or the, uh, the, uh, telecommunication companies that were involved as well.

00:22:36.180 Yeah. There's no doubt, Russ, they were running a cabal at the highest level. And they, I mean,

00:22:40.860 they've gotten caught and I think now we're going to start to see the indictment start to flow. And,

00:22:45.880 uh, we see the biggest one, perhaps yet John Bolton, uh, raided his house just about a month ago,

00:22:52.380 got files out there. This man was keeping war plans for us. The guy had stolen war plans from

00:23:00.220 whatever security agency he'd stolen them from, uh, different sorts of, he had folders labeled Trump,

00:23:07.560 this Trump, that first of all, what is John Bolton doing? Stealing these documents. Number one,

00:23:14.640 number two, why are people not taking this more serious than it is? Russ, you were,

00:23:18.980 I mean, given some of the harshest penalties possible, taking pensions and losing jobs and

00:23:25.640 labeled a crazy man for coming out and blowing the whistle on something that we're witnessing

00:23:31.120 happening right in front of our eyes till this very day. Yet people are looking at on the left

00:23:37.380 are looking at John Bolton as this hero.

00:23:39.440 Well, Bolton is all, you know, it's always been known as a warmonger. I would, I, I, I call him a

00:23:44.920 war pig, but, uh, like the Ozzy Osbourne, uh, Black Sabbath song. Um, but, um, it would suggest 0.75

00:23:52.860 that he, he wrote a book, right. And, uh, made a couple million bucks on it. So you, and he kept notes,

00:23:57.620 by the way, if you're in a classified briefing and you take notes and I would do this periodically

00:24:02.200 and, but the notes you submit to be put in, into your, your, your safe and they're classified.

00:24:09.180 Even if I write something on a, heck if I wrote something on a napkin, yeah, it becomes glad the

00:24:15.980 napkin is now classified. If I write, you know, uh, weapons capabilities or, you know, enemy capabilities

00:24:21.900 against their counter capabilities or, um, now, you know, was he selling that information? Uh, you know,

00:24:27.760 it says some people, they keep that information to sell for profit. Um, I don't know that he did

00:24:34.000 that, but, um, he's charged with espionage. Well, the, you know, the espionage act is, is a very,

00:24:40.400 yeah, I mean, that's something they were going to charge me with by the way. And I had, uh, I had

00:24:45.200 zero classified documents in my home or, um, but I, I certainly have evidence. I believe that my home

00:24:51.680 was broken into several times by the FBI. Um, uh, another place where I stayed, I believe was

00:24:58.540 broken into, I believe my parents' home was broken into at least twice, uh, when they were at church

00:25:04.280 because my father was retired. My mother didn't work. The only time they could have gotten into

00:25:08.460 my parents' home was when they were at church. And just so happened because there was an old locking

00:25:14.400 system on, on their home is an older home that, that I guess they didn't have the nouveau,

00:25:18.940 whatever, wait again, they just drilled a hole right through the, through the, uh, through the

00:25:23.180 lock to, to break open the lock. They did that twice at my parents' home. Now, am I stupid enough

00:25:29.160 to keep classified documents in my home or my parents' home? Of course not. I don't have any 0.99

00:25:34.260 classified documents. The only one time I ever took classified documents home, I was working with the

00:25:38.960 Navy. It was a very highly classified system. And I, I just accidentally, it accidentally ended up on

00:25:44.100 my briefcase because I was working with the Naval War College to get the, uh, my graduate degree

00:25:48.920 from there. And, and as soon as I figured it out the next day, I immediately contacted security.

00:25:54.660 I went in, I turned it in. I wrote up my own, my own security report that I, you know, and, and then,

00:26:00.560 you know, talk to security. They said, okay, we don't think it was compromised. You sat in your

00:26:04.900 briefcase by your desk at your home and never went anywhere. And, but I had a little ding put on my

00:26:09.360 report because I, you know, that was a security violation. And you self-admitted to it.

00:26:14.340 So I turned myself in, I did it. I mean, it was an accident and it was a highly classified Naval

00:26:20.820 SAP program. Yeah. But, um, but that's the kind of thing you do if you, even if you accidentally

00:26:26.760 find out that you've done something, only time I've ever had an issue with that. And it accidentally

00:26:31.800 ended up in my briefcase. I probably shouldn't have had my homework for the Naval Academy.

00:26:36.260 I mean, the Naval War College and with SAP stuff I was working in, uh, in the office,

00:26:41.940 but, um, it ended up there, my fault, but Bolton apparently just willy nilly put documents

00:26:48.500 in his briefcase and off he went and put them home. And I guess he wanted to use them for

00:26:52.900 his book or I don't know, maybe to impress people or, uh, maybe to put in so that he knew something

00:26:57.940 special to, to show someone. You know, Russ, it's funny. Uh, you got guys like Bolton who,

00:27:09.680 when Julian Assange came out and Edward Stone came out and blew the whistle on some of the same

00:27:14.360 things that you blew the whistle on, um, John Bolton came up to the line of calling for their

00:27:20.220 death. I mean, these people should be thrown in jail for the rest of their lives. Take a listen.

00:27:24.480 If he gets to the United States, he'll get due process here. And I hope he gets at least 176 0.98

00:27:31.560 years in jail for what he did. I'm not bothered by the death penalty in this country. And I think,

00:27:36.320 uh, crimes like espionage that harm the security and the safety of innocent American civilians

00:27:42.380 deserves the strictest punishment.

00:27:45.840 You is that Snowden committed treason. He ought to be convicted of that. And then he ought to swing

00:27:50.600 from a tall oak tree. Well, he should be prosecuted. And if he's found guilty, he should be punished to

00:27:57.220 the fullest extent possible. And what is that? Death. You think he should be killed? Yes.

00:28:07.020 John Bolton calling for the death of numerous people who, in my opinion, aren't bad people. I

00:28:12.120 don't think Julian Assange is a bad person. I don't think Edward Snowden is a bad person,

00:28:15.720 uh, for simply coming out. You know, Bolton wants to talk about being a traitor or this or that,

00:28:24.460 but what about when it's the shoes on the other foot, Russ? What about when our government is

00:28:28.800 betraying us? What about when our government is trading us? I don't know. Anytime we signed up to

00:28:35.040 be surveilled. Uh, we have the right to live a life without being surveilled at every single moment for

00:28:41.060 doing absolutely nothing wrong. What about looking at that aspect of it? What's interesting about the

00:28:46.780 Espionage Act is when you're prosecuted for it, you cannot put up a defense as to why you may have

00:28:52.800 said something that is classified, even if it's a total violation of the law and the constitution.

00:28:59.520 You're not allowed to bring that up in court in your defense. They'll just say you had a classified

00:29:04.400 document or you said something classified and you say, yes, but it was because of illegal. And that

00:29:09.220 they'll shut you up and say, shut up. You're not allowed to say that. Um, you're not allowed to 0.99

00:29:13.880 defend yourself. What Snowden came out with probably, you know, the difference between me and Snowden,

00:29:20.480 well, first of all, I think he gave up too much. And I think there was a reason for that. And we'd have

00:29:25.400 to go into a long discussion on that, but, um, you know, he came out with the document, the NSA's own

00:29:31.640 documentation that this was going on. When I came out and said this, said it all, um, you know,

00:29:38.340 nine years before Snowden, um, you know, I, you know, it's like they lied and they said they

00:29:44.920 weren't doing it, of course. And they said that I was crazy. How their argument was, oh my gosh,

00:29:51.140 we could never do such a thing. And, and, and, and our, this guy's crazy. He's, he's off the, 0.96

00:29:57.680 you know, he just lost it. And we have to fire him by the way, cause he's crazy. So that's the 0.99

00:30:03.120 difference. They hate Snowden because he had their own documentations as proof. And I just

00:30:09.300 had my own words. Yeah. And they can call you crazy because you don't have the documentation

00:30:14.340 and they can call him a traitor. So it doesn't matter what you have or what you don't have

00:30:18.460 Russ, because in somehow, some way they're going to find a way to ruin your life. They ruined your

00:30:23.020 life. They ruined his life. I mean, they ruined Assange's life. These guys were on the run for,

00:30:26.740 I mean, still on the run to this day and simply for calling out the government. And

00:30:32.760 it's not the way America should be. It's not the way that I think the founders created this country,

00:30:38.700 but we've gotten far into a time, Russ, where this country is, is bought and owned by everybody

00:30:44.820 and corrupted from within. Forget about, you know, Russia or China or other people coming to hack us

00:30:52.000 and do corruption. We do it from within to ourselves, to our own people. It's like,

00:30:58.920 I mean, we had a problem when Syria was, when the leaders of Syria were gassing their people, 0.99

00:31:05.200 they want to talk about civil rights abuses and they want to talk about civil rights abuses in

00:31:09.360 Iran or other countries throughout the Middle East or in Venezuela or in China. But what about the

00:31:18.320 civil rights abuses happening right here in America? Is that a fair assessment, Russ?

00:31:24.240 Well, of course it is. And I think some of the discussions we've had in the past, why would you

00:31:29.720 not put the hammer down on this? Yeah. The same reason for Hoover was blackmailing presidents way back

00:31:37.340 when. NSA can easily use this information to blackmail any wrongdoing by our congressional

00:31:45.060 representatives, our judges that are in the Supreme Court, FISA Court, under the courts, federal courts

00:31:52.780 underneath, or any other court for that matter. And a whole bunch of other people they can blackmail.

00:31:57.780 I mean, Jager Hoover is a drop in the bucket compared to what NSA can do with what they have.

00:32:03.720 And so for some reason, I don't think a whole lot of the representatives that we have on Capitol Hill

00:32:09.940 are saints that have a bit of dirt in their background. So I keep saying, you know, why doesn't

00:32:19.240 someone bring in NSA and say, do you have this information? The same thing that was asked to,

00:32:27.460 to, oh, what's his name? When he was at DNI, the clapper. So, and say, does NSA have this

00:32:37.740 information? In this case, I would say, did NSA give this information or involved in giving this

00:32:45.280 information to the J6 committee? And then how much information give it? And was word for word

00:32:51.260 information given? And I would let the director of NSA, or I don't even think President Trump has been

00:32:57.240 able to assign another director for NSA. But I would say, if you lie to us, we're going to put

00:33:03.920 you in jail, director, deputy director, whoever you are at NSA. And how much information do you have

00:33:11.500 on American citizens? Are you lying? And I think they are. They have it word for word. And then deal

00:33:19.100 with that. And then hold these people accountable until you put people in jumpsuits, behind bars,

00:33:26.220 you know, eating, you know, mush for breakfast. It's going to continue to happen over and over and

00:33:34.620 over again. And, you know, like I said, this started out when I, when I blew the whistle on

00:33:39.240 Republicans. Yeah, I know. Yeah. The analogy I use, Russ, is these people should never be able to go to

00:33:47.680 the bathroom again and use a toilet bowl that's not made of stainless steel and has a toilet bowl seat

00:33:52.980 without people watching them go to the bathroom. That's the analogy I've been using lately for the

00:33:57.320 people who aren't well-versed with the prison system. They're stainless steel toilets, no toilet bowl

00:34:03.960 seat on them. And I don't even know if you get toilet paper, but the time has got to come. Let's turn

00:34:09.560 to Russ before we wrap up here. Tulsi Gabbard, someone I admire greatly, who I think is doing a terrific job.

00:34:16.040 And I know she's doing a good job because the Daily Beast has an article out that says Gabbard

00:34:21.180 launches her secret goon squad to target Trump's enemies. Your thoughts on the job that Tulsi Gabbard

00:34:30.260 is doing this far, Russ? Well, remember I was, I wasn't sure about Ms. Gabbard because, because she

00:34:36.180 really doesn't have an Intel background. But then I thought about it. I said, you know what? Maybe the

00:34:41.120 best thing we can have is someone who doesn't have an Intel background, who, who, uh, who isn't

00:34:46.140 tainted by, by the, the, the past. And the fact that they came after her as, as, as much as they did,

00:34:54.240 then I realized that she was the real thing. And that's when I became a real Tulsi Gabbard fan.

00:34:59.820 And I am to this day, the fact they keep coming at her, the fact that they tried to set her up with

00:35:04.780 that, that, that dirty, uh, uh, nuclear Iran stuff, um, uh, at the CIA. And you know what I

00:35:11.380 think of, uh, the director of the CIA. Yeah. We're going to talk about that. So it's, uh, that's, um,

00:35:17.380 that's when I became a fan and now she's figured out a way to ferret out the, the, the, the bad apples

00:35:23.920 from the Intel barrel. And now they're all upset because she's starting to dig them out and then get in

00:35:30.700 and, and, and get rid of them. So, so hooray for Tulsi Gabbard. I want to, I want to carry her

00:35:36.840 banner around, um, because she's doing her job and my goodness, um, I give her a big hug if I

00:35:44.300 met the woman and say, thank you. Yeah. You know why I think Russ, she has the obligation to do a good

00:35:50.180 job is because she was wronged just as bad as Donald Trump was. They stole from her in 2016, Hillary 1.00

00:35:56.380 Clinton. They robbed her, um, uh, from a fair democratic process. Um, and, and they tried to 1.00

00:36:04.100 ruin her life just as they did to Donald Trump. Now, obviously she didn't have the money that

00:36:07.440 Donald Trump had. She didn't have the power. She didn't have the fame that Donald Trump had. So

00:36:11.120 she couldn't really defend herself the way that she probably, you know, would have if she did have

00:36:16.560 those resources. But I do think she's doing a terrific job and I'm assured by a man, you mentioned

00:36:21.220 Roger Stone, who's a very good friend of hers that, that she's doing a terrific job, but I've seen

00:36:25.740 instances. You had mentioned director of CIA, John Ratcliffe, and there's been some instances.

00:36:31.000 First of all, I gotta be honest with you. I've never really trusted him. And I'll tell you why

00:36:34.680 back in 2020, when president Trump left office, he had declassified certain documents. One of the

00:36:39.920 biggest ones would be the 2016 Russia, the collusion, whatever you want to call it documents

00:36:45.480 that Ratcliffe seemingly dragged his feet on, didn't get them out. I've spoken about this many times

00:36:51.300 before and I'm going to try to get John Solomon on the show this week to talk about it, but the

00:36:54.980 documents were given to John Solomon and then taken back from John Solomon and never given back.

00:36:58.780 It was in regard to Crossfire Hurricane, obviously the Russia collusion hoax and all that. There was

00:37:04.040 other documents like the JFK files that he held back. And I'm sure now he's in on the Epstein files 0.76

00:37:09.080 as well. I think he's a deep state operator, but I do have seen issues now over the course of this term

00:37:16.120 dating back just a month ago, Russ. We've got here

00:37:19.280 from MS or this is NBC tensions rise between Gabbard. This is last month rise between Gabbard

00:37:26.100 and CIA chief after her disclosure of an undercover officer's name. According to insiders,

00:37:31.600 the article says director of national intelligence, L.C. Gabbard blindsided CIA leaders last week

00:37:36.180 when she disclosed the name of an undercover CIA officer on a list. People,

00:37:40.360 she's stripped of security clearances, multiple current and former intelligence sources say.

00:37:45.560 Now, why would Ratcliffe, if you're stripped of your security clearance with the exception,

00:37:49.700 a few exceptions, you probably did something wrong. And in this case, you definitely did something wrong.

00:37:54.500 But you got CIA director, John Ratcliffe trying to protect these people to try to destroy democracy

00:38:01.080 in America. Doesn't make much sense to me, Russ.

00:38:03.600 Well, apparently this guy was a former CIA officer, so he was no longer working in a covert capacity.

00:38:12.880 So and if he lost his clearance, he's not working anywhere, you know, in the intel community.

00:38:19.200 So he's a past operative if he was one. And so, you know, OK, now we know that he used to do some

00:38:27.160 spooky stuff for the CIA. Yeah. Big deal. I did a whole lot of spooky stuff in my background.

00:38:33.600 To this day, I'm not allowed to talk about. But yeah, I did spooky stuff. Some of it covertly.

00:38:41.360 So come on, that's nonsense. And of course, you know, Ratcliffe set up the Tulsi Gabbard,

00:38:49.160 as mentioned. And I just I just don't think this this man is trustworthy. I hope for the day when

00:38:58.320 President Trump realizes this and gives him the boot.

00:39:01.000 I just saw yesterday and I don't particularly care for Steve Bannon. I don't really like Steve

00:39:06.000 Bannon, but I saw yesterday on Steve Bannon show some headlines. Steve Bannon calling for Ratcliffe

00:39:10.880 to step aside and resign from his job because he Steve says that Ratcliffe, Steve Wyckoff,

00:39:19.020 who's been President Trump's special envoy to the Middle East, who's been negotiating a lot of these

00:39:23.060 peace deals and things like that in that region, has been getting briefings three times a day from

00:39:29.340 the CIA on different issues throughout the Middle East. And one of the big ones was obviously

00:39:34.200 Israel and Hamas and the ceasefire. Steve Bannon says that multiple times Ratcliffe came to

00:39:44.060 to to Wyckoff in his briefings and lied right to his face, saying Hamas has no intention 0.52

00:39:49.380 to negotiate. Hamas doesn't want to negotiate any sort of peace. And he's saying that's not exactly

00:39:54.840 the case. I mean, that's a big deal, in my opinion, if that pans out to be true. I'm not sure Steve would

00:40:01.640 be coming out here alleging these things if he didn't have some sort of inside information into

00:40:06.400 the fact that John Ratcliffe has been lying and we find out he lied about Iran. So if you lied once,

00:40:14.220 Russ, you're probably going to lie again. This is dangerous.

00:40:19.560 Yeah, more than likely, there's there's something there. And, you know, mentioned Epstein before,

00:40:24.400 you know, I'm quite convinced that Epstein was working for the CIA. A lot of people are.

00:40:29.640 And they were blackmailing people with the with, you know, these folks were you were buggering these

00:40:35.980 little girls. And they were using CIA was using that to blackmail them and perhaps MI6 and and the

00:40:42.980 Mossad. And Lord knows who else. But because he's a CIA, former CIA asset. And come on, where did he

00:40:50.880 get, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars? It's just sort of explain, you know, how. So,

00:40:57.000 yeah, I'm I'm 90 percent sure he was a CIA asset and other intel. And and of course, Ratcliffe is

00:41:04.180 going to do everything he can to to not bring that out. And and the other information probably came

00:41:11.300 from a whistleblower. And I think he's as dirty as dirt gets. And the well, Tulsi's his boss, 0.98

00:41:18.360 theoretically. Right. Correct. So remember, I told you about that whole thing about, you know,

00:41:23.940 the CIA being the former basically the head of the of the intel community. And and they've never

00:41:30.860 gotten over the fact that there's now a DCI that's supposed to be their boss. And that's always been

00:41:36.840 an issue ever since. Would Tulsi have to go to President Trump if she wanted to fire Ratcliffe? 0.99

00:41:41.840 Oh, absolutely. Sure. OK. Yeah. It's just the level of corruption here. I don't think President

00:41:47.620 Trump should tolerate even one lie because of how many times he was lied to his first

00:41:52.620 term around. And then, you know, in the reelection campaign, he's got too many people around him

00:41:57.280 still to this day who I don't think have his best interest based on what I hear from inside

00:42:02.660 his inner circle. So I don't think he should tolerate it. I don't think he should put up with

00:42:08.260 it because, you know, we're all living on borrowed time. Russ, these four years are going to go real

00:42:13.300 quick. In just a few months, we're already going to be a year in and that gives them three years

00:42:17.460 left. But you really don't do anything the last six months of your administration. So that gives

00:42:21.520 you two and a half years left, you know, so time flies. And I don't think he could stand to put up

00:42:26.560 with this, which is why I'm so adamant about getting these corrupt scumbags off these streets 0.98

00:42:32.220 and getting guys like Bolton behind bars where they belong, put them through the process they put 0.98

00:42:38.240 Donald Trump through for no reason. Russ, it's always a delight to talk to you. You get the last

00:42:41.860 word here. Remember, you just mentioned the word time. Timing is very important on this case with

00:42:49.060 the J6 committee and all 30 million files and all the machinations of all of how that all happened.

00:42:57.220 That timeline has to be established. And who else was involved? I'm quite sure NSA was involved.

00:43:03.720 And ultimately, you have to attack the elements of that timeline and hold people accountable.

00:43:09.240 Mr. President, Mr. Trump, please hold these people accountable so that even after we're all long gone,

00:43:17.160 any future intel people or whoever is in these positions will fear being put in jail if they

00:43:23.180 think about doing these things. Yeah, they should all go to jail at least for 10 days, 15 days to see

00:43:28.760 what it's like. This is a test. I guarantee none of these pretty boys will be able to last a day

00:43:34.480 because once people in jail find out what they've done and who they're working for, I hear it's not

00:43:41.660 a smooth sailings, I guess is probably the most appropriate way to say it, Russ. We all know what

00:43:48.000 happens in jail to people who are bad. Well, they'd have to be in, you know, because they've been

00:43:52.920 had access to classified information. Yeah, yeah. Solitary is probably worse than what could happen to them

00:43:57.940 in general population, actually. So you can't have them with the general population. You have to

00:44:01.700 segment them away. But but, you know, but they need to be in jail. It's that simple.

00:44:08.780 Yep. Russ, we'll talk to you soon, my friend. Thanks so much for joining us, folks. Former

00:44:12.520 senior NSA intel analyst and whistleblower and great American and great friend of the great

00:44:17.180 Lou Dobbs and great friend of mine and great friend of the Great America Show. Russ Tice. Russ,

00:44:21.260 we'll talk to you soon, my friend. Always my pleasure, John. Thanks to Russ Tice, folks. And thank

00:44:25.120 you all for being with us today here on the Great America Show. We'll see you back here tomorrow for

00:44:28.100 the Great America Show. Truth, justice and the American way. Same time, same place. Until then,

00:44:32.520 may God bless you. May God bless America and may God bless the great Lou Dobbs. Have a great night,

00:44:36.940 everybody.

The Great America Show - October 21, 2025

This is CRIMINAL! J6 Committee caught seizing 30 MILLION Phone Records!

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