The Great America Show - March 09, 2022


WHY DON’T WE KNOW THE WHEREABOUTS OF KAMALA HARRIS & MIKE PENCE ON JANUARY 6TH?

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Julie Kelly has a new book, January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against The Political Right, and she s a great American. She s been a journalist, journalist, and writer for over 30 years. She has been a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, NPR, and the Washington Post, and is a frequent guest on CNN and NPR. She s also a frequent contributor to NPR and the Wall Street Journal.

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00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.320 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.
00:00:18.160 Thanks for being with us here, where we treasure truth, justice, and the American way.
00:00:23.860 And we know you do as well.
00:00:25.800 And together, we'll make sure the American way prevails, no matter what.
00:00:31.140 And these are certainly what we could call no-matter-what days.
00:00:35.880 We've got a mess in Ukraine. 0.98
00:00:38.000 Vladimir Putin, the former communist KGB agent, turned dictator, making the mess and killing a lot of people,
00:00:46.300 mostly Ukrainians and his own troops, as his military wages war against Ukraine,
00:00:52.300 reducing many cities to mostly rubble, killing lots of innocent people.
00:00:57.960 President Zelensky knows Ukraine's on its own.
00:01:01.400 And Ukraine is fighting hard against the Russians, and so far, holding their own.
00:01:07.060 Europe doesn't have the guts to step into the mess to stop Putin, and neither does NATO.
00:01:12.880 And the Ukrainians are, as I said, on their own. 0.99
00:01:16.140 Despite the pictures of General Milley and Secretary of State Blinken in or near Ukraine,
00:01:23.160 those you know were photo ops only.
00:01:26.300 And all the Biden bluster is just bull.
00:01:29.880 And Putin knows it.
00:01:31.660 Biden's ban on Russian oil is just bull as well,
00:01:35.480 and will hurt American wallets far worse than any in Russia.
00:01:40.040 And yes, Americans know that as well.
00:01:43.440 Europe's leaders don't amount to much, and neither do ours.
00:01:47.780 And that's what makes the Ukraine crisis so dangerous and potentially disastrous.
00:01:53.860 Biden, Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Milley,
00:01:58.000 names atop the list of Biden administration officials
00:02:01.400 who we can only hope don't make a mistake that costs any more lives in Ukraine.
00:02:07.440 They bear great responsibility for the Ukraine crisis they could have prevented months ago.
00:02:13.440 And now can't find a way to resolve.
00:02:16.780 We can only hope Zelensky and Putin can find sufficient reason and decency
00:02:21.940 to end the conflict and find a civilized path forward for all.
00:02:27.960 As Biden, Harris, and the radical Dems cheer senselessly his ban on Russian oil
00:02:33.540 because they think the result will be lower gasoline consumption
00:02:37.900 and higher purchases of electric cars.
00:02:41.240 Better minds know and understand the likely toll will be higher inflation,
00:02:47.320 perhaps hyperinflation, and economic pain for our citizens,
00:02:52.140 disruption of our economy, and markets.
00:02:54.800 But that is of little concern to the Marxist left who control our federal government,
00:03:00.740 who instead believe mightily theirs is a higher level of consciousness
00:03:05.180 and worth the pain, no matter how deep, of mere citizens.
00:03:10.860 The great unwoke.
00:03:12.820 That same leftist government, our Congress, the White House, the courts,
00:03:17.080 and the permanent bureaucracy, the deep state if you prefer,
00:03:20.700 are now at war with the America most of us believe in profoundly
00:03:25.220 and who, for that reason, must be constrained,
00:03:28.400 if not overwhelmed, as enemies of their ideology
00:03:32.060 that wants no part of our America.
00:03:35.780 We're now living under the threat of the left's authoritarianism
00:03:39.480 throughout our society.
00:03:41.200 In our work, our homes, our courts, public schools, colleges,
00:03:45.340 our places of worship.
00:03:46.500 That leftist ideology driving the Radical Dems' January 6th committee,
00:03:52.500 created by Speaker Pelosi as the authoritarian tool
00:03:56.340 to destroy the lives of citizens who dared support Donald Trump
00:04:00.840 in a rally and protest what they believed was a rigged election,
00:04:05.440 and some who rioted and entered the Capitol.
00:04:08.820 No one has better investigated and reported on that day
00:04:13.120 and the citizens and public officials targeted by the January 6th committee
00:04:17.540 than our guest today.
00:04:19.540 Our guest is Julie Kelly, and she has a new best-selling book.
00:04:23.640 It's entitled January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest
00:04:28.820 to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right.
00:04:33.820 And she's a great American.
00:04:35.780 Julie, many Americans believe our government has now turned on them,
00:04:39.900 and look at us, our citizens, as their enemy.
00:04:44.520 This is a very dangerous time.
00:04:46.100 And unfortunately, Lou, I think when most freedom-loving people
00:04:50.380 in the Western world surrender their rights so quickly under COVID tyranny
00:04:55.360 and let our political leaders of both parties strip our rights away,
00:05:01.180 you know, hold our kids hostage away from school,
00:05:04.680 shutter our businesses,
00:05:05.700 it was a big clue to these leaders
00:05:11.000 that they could use any justification to strip our rights away,
00:05:16.180 whether it was COVID,
00:05:18.140 now it's political protests against vaccine mandates
00:05:21.500 or against the 2020 election.
00:05:23.860 We see the FBI doing this for parents who are protesting at school board meetings.
00:05:28.680 Right.
00:05:28.980 I mean, this is an expansive, dangerous reach,
00:05:32.340 and this is not democracy.
00:05:33.860 This is not freedom and liberty.
00:05:35.420 And it is interesting, too,
00:05:37.600 that Biden is promising these severe, painful sanctions.
00:05:43.720 When I think every American,
00:05:45.880 no matter how casual an observer of geopolitics,
00:05:49.760 understands that economic sanctions of any kind do not work.
00:05:55.060 They certainly, and empirically, the evidence is clear.
00:05:58.760 Putin has revolutionized the weaponry for his military in every branch,
00:06:08.280 Navy, Air Force, and Army.
00:06:10.780 We see only weakness and mindlessness day after day after day and disaster after disaster.
00:06:19.060 And this looks like another one.
00:06:21.360 Well, it certainly does.
00:06:25.000 And look, I'm no expert on the relationship or conflicts between Russia and Ukraine.
00:06:30.460 But I think most Americans look at how unpopular Joe Biden is,
00:06:35.920 how unpopular the Democratic Party is overall,
00:06:39.060 and wanting to change the subject.
00:06:42.800 This is a lot of what this is all about.
00:06:45.380 Meanwhile, most Americans want to know why our own southern border remains open
00:06:50.640 to criminals of all kinds, including potential terrorists.
00:06:55.940 They can't answer how many people have entered the southern border
00:06:59.360 from dangerous countries, terrorist-sponsored countries.
00:07:03.780 That was a DOJ official last month in a Senate hearing,
00:07:07.660 could not answer a senator's question about that.
00:07:10.800 But we're supposed to be worried about what's happening there.
00:07:13.580 I think most Americans recognize this is an attempt by Biden,
00:07:18.860 other unpopular leaders in the West,
00:07:20.700 to pivot away from the truly crisis situation in so many regards here in America.
00:07:28.620 This is not an administration capable of doing anything right.
00:07:34.240 And so, you know, we still recall the horrific withdrawal from Afghanistan
00:07:39.280 that took the lives of 13 American servicemen and women.
00:07:42.520 And we really think that this president and this vice president who's humiliated herself
00:07:47.860 the past few days on the international stage
00:07:50.840 can't even put two cogent sentences together
00:07:53.600 as to why this isn't America's best interest or interest at all.
00:07:58.480 And so I think most Americans are looking around saying,
00:08:01.800 what does this have to do with us? 0.93
00:08:04.300 We have a mentally, physically unfit president. 0.67
00:08:07.560 We have a vice president who doesn't even know what she's talking about, 1.00
00:08:13.520 who only got the nod for vice president because she is a black woman. 0.99
00:08:21.180 It clearly not capable of this job, let alone really any other job. 0.97
00:08:26.860 And then you have an administration filled by not just incompetence,
00:08:32.200 but also people who have burned the trust of the American people
00:08:36.780 by peddling any number of falsehoods from Russia collusion
00:08:41.640 to going in on the Trump-Zelensky phone call impeachment
00:08:46.400 while covering up the Biden family's grift in China and Ukraine and Russia,
00:08:53.820 by the way, all of these countries.
00:08:56.760 And so no one in a position trying to convince Americans
00:09:00.120 that this is the right thing to do has any trust.
00:09:03.300 In fact, they should be held at arm's length with nothing but distrust and suspicion
00:09:08.260 as to their political motives for entering and prioritizing this
00:09:13.320 as an agenda item when so many other things are going wrong in the country.
00:09:17.860 And more disgusting to me, Julie, is the fact that the national corporate media,
00:09:23.820 will not cover with honesty and diligence and responsibility
00:09:28.800 what is happening in this country.
00:09:32.000 They give him an entire pass.
00:09:34.620 Kamala Harris can do no wrong.
00:09:37.020 And the federal government is in the hands of, without question,
00:09:42.020 abject wannabe totalitarians.
00:09:45.720 That's right.
00:09:48.280 And let's not excuse, too, and I know that you never do,
00:09:51.620 the Republican leaders who are going along with this,
00:09:55.100 Republican senators who are helping the Biden regime and Democrats
00:09:59.440 bang the drums of war and talk about what a dangerous threat this is
00:10:03.900 to our national security, now saying that inflation and energy prices
00:10:08.480 will escalate if we don't do something.
00:10:10.860 One starts to wonder if this will be the excuse for the cover-up for the high energy costs
00:10:18.960 because, of course, the Biden administration can't explain or fix it.
00:10:24.080 And so now this will be the next excuse, the next fall guy for why fuel prices are sky high.
00:10:30.840 But these Republicans should not be going along with this either.
00:10:34.500 And it infuriates me to see Republicans who have been completely silent
00:10:39.140 on this abusive, punitive, federal criminal investigation into January 6th,
00:10:45.100 ruining the lives of hundreds, thousands of Americans.
00:10:49.280 They're utterly silent, but now want us to worry about Putin's aggression.
00:10:55.100 Yeah, exactly.
00:10:56.800 Let's turn now to January 6th, because you have written on this,
00:11:00.720 I believe, more than any other journalist.
00:11:03.480 You have reported more, and you've done it with, to me, great skill and great eloquence.
00:11:11.920 So I want to turn to an element of it, though, and that is Ashley Babbitt,
00:11:18.340 who you have written about, who you've reported on, but so few have,
00:11:24.040 certainly in the corporate media.
00:11:26.580 This woman was shot dead, unarmed, in the midst of the Capitol riot,
00:11:35.300 whatever you want to call it, by a police officer, a police lieutenant,
00:11:40.640 who had no provocation and who has had no critical judgment of his actions whatsoever,
00:11:47.740 other than to have a perfunctory and pro forma dismissal of any thought of charges against him.
00:11:56.580 It is a case of, to me, of absurdity and disgust that an American citizen can be shot down
00:12:06.260 without any suggestion of threat or harm to anyone else.
00:12:13.720 Your thoughts?
00:12:15.800 It is just still, I think, the most jarring aspect of January 6th to me,
00:12:21.140 that Officer Michael Byrd could shoot Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed female veteran, 5'2", 1.00
00:12:28.860 shoot her almost at point-blank range, almost shooting her directly in the face.
00:12:37.360 Gets away with that.
00:12:39.160 He is allegedly investigated by the DOJ Civil Rights Division,
00:12:44.880 which concluded he committed no offense, did not strip Ashley Babbitt of her civil rights
00:12:50.880 by shooting her, without warning, by the way.
00:12:54.600 The same DOJ who just filed charges and got a plea deal out of a police officer in Louisville
00:13:02.500 charged him with violating the civil rights of a BLM activist who is violating the law on numerous occasions
00:13:10.640 and allegedly hit this man in the head with the riot stick.
00:13:14.720 He's going to jail for two years.
00:13:17.500 This same Justice Department that cleared Michael Byrd of shooting a woman almost in the face,
00:13:23.220 point-blank range, with no provocation, now asked a court to send a Louisville police officer to jail
00:13:30.840 for four years because he hit a BLM rioter in Louisville, breaking the law in the head,
00:13:38.440 allegedly with a riot stick.
00:13:40.080 A judge sentenced him to two years in prison on the same civil rights charges that were dropped
00:13:45.420 or not even pursued by this Justice Department against Michael Byrd.
00:13:49.760 Furthermore, his name was covered up for months by Capitol Police, DOJ, the news media.
00:13:58.780 They all knew who he was.
00:14:00.260 They covered up his name because they were afraid he would get threats.
00:14:04.340 Of course, that's never the case in any other police-involved shooting.
00:14:09.280 But here's just more examples of the double standards for January 6th.
00:14:13.960 Let's just call them what they are, Trump supporters.
00:14:16.120 Yeah, Trump supporters, conservatives, there's just no interest on the part of the Justice
00:14:24.260 Department, as far as I can see, or the FBI, of functioning as anything more than the action
00:14:32.520 arm of the Democratic Party.
00:14:35.820 I am hardly alone in that.
00:14:38.940 What are your thoughts?
00:14:40.320 It's absolutely true.
00:14:41.700 I mean, you have the same Justice Department that are charging nonviolent protesters from
00:14:49.520 January 6th with parading at the Capitol.
00:14:52.400 This Justice Department has charged more than three times as many people with federal crimes
00:14:57.540 related to a four-hour disturbance in the Capitol on January 6th than the totality of the criminals
00:15:03.340 involved in the 2020 riots that lasted for months that prompted, by the way, as you recall,
00:15:08.600 the lockdown of Trump's White House for an entire weekend.
00:15:12.360 These people burned federal property.
00:15:14.800 They vandalized federal lands, such as Lafayette Park.
00:15:18.560 They attacked federal police officers.
00:15:21.520 The same, at worst, actually, crimes committed by those rioters versus January 6th.
00:15:27.080 But the DOJ is dropping cases, asking for leniency in sentencing for some of these individuals,
00:15:33.240 protesters, rioters, while throwing the book at January 6th protesters, including right now
00:15:39.360 the incarceration of at least 70 men who have been convicted of no crime, awaiting trials
00:15:46.080 that this DOJ continues to delay with the help of federal judges, from Trump judges to Obama
00:15:52.860 judges, Clinton down to Reagan judges.
00:15:54.640 They're all playing along with the Biden regime's game plan here.
00:15:59.840 And we have to consider the jurisdiction as well.
00:16:03.680 It is Washington, D.C.
00:16:05.600 It is a blue Capitol.
00:16:09.500 And it is a Capitol that has so much orchestration, coordination, and simpatico thinking,
00:16:19.380 herd-like reactions, that it's sickening to witness.
00:16:24.440 Because our courts, the FBI, the Justice Department, and I'm talking about all of the federal courts
00:16:32.660 in Washington, D.C., including the Supreme Court, have tilted left, and there is no doubt
00:16:40.320 about it.
00:16:40.840 The corruption of the federal court system.
00:16:43.380 John Roberts, the chief justice, famously saying there are no Trump judges, there are no
00:16:47.940 Bush judges, there are no Obama judges.
00:16:51.020 The hell, there aren't.
00:16:52.480 And to even say, utter such a fiction from a chief justice, we know what he was intending
00:16:59.900 to do.
00:17:00.620 He would like to have the reserve of objectivity as a perception of the court.
00:17:06.540 It absolutely is not.
00:17:08.400 These decisions, one by one, as we examine each one, are settled on partisan terms.
00:17:14.860 And it's that straightforward.
00:17:16.340 And in the case of the Democratic Party, it's even worse because they control the prosecutors,
00:17:22.720 the investigators, as well as the courts.
00:17:25.440 They absolutely do.
00:17:27.440 And now they are going to have to put together juries in the most hyper-partisan city in America,
00:17:34.920 93% of residents who voted for Joe Biden.
00:17:39.800 They've done a few defense attorneys have done polls of D.C. residents.
00:17:44.580 And, Lou, I don't see any way how they could put together a fair jury to openly hear and
00:17:52.160 objectively hear these cases.
00:17:54.800 These residents have told pollsters, 70% of them, regardless of what these people did
00:18:00.920 on January 6th, they should be charged with crimes, that they are insurrectionists, they
00:18:05.360 are traitors, they are domestic terrorists. 0.94
00:18:08.160 This is the collective viewpoint of D.C. residents who are going to have to serve on these juries.
00:18:14.740 Every single case should be moved out of Washington, D.C.
00:18:17.700 Several attorneys have filed change of venue motions and, of course, are denied by D.C.
00:18:22.800 judges.
00:18:23.640 So these people are trapped in a rigged system that hates them, that wants them punished.
00:18:30.280 And so far, they are being very successful.
00:18:34.340 Yeah, and the Republican Party in this country, because it is the only countervailing influence
00:18:41.500 to, as you said, the Republican Party, particularly the Republican leadership, deserves great
00:18:49.440 to me.
00:18:52.520 I get so angry when I think about what they've done.
00:18:55.080 But the RINOs and the Republican Party have become an equivalent force against our Constitution 1.00
00:19:01.800 and against the interests of this nation, that they might as well be lining up with the radical
00:19:06.680 Democrats.
00:19:07.960 And this is where we are as we approach these midterm elections.
00:19:12.920 I want to focus on a couple of other parts of your reporting that are fascinating.
00:19:18.480 And let's start with, you mentioned the judges.
00:19:21.420 Let's go to the judge, McFadden, accusing the prosecutors.
00:19:27.240 I mean, the man has got more guts than I have seen in the federal court system, and I won't
00:19:34.740 even put a time on it.
00:19:36.260 I've never seen such guts.
00:19:38.780 He accused the prosecutors of deceiving a grand jury over a year after first putting
00:19:45.180 charges forward, misleading the jury about the whereabouts of the vice president-elect
00:19:52.220 on January 6th.
00:19:53.360 Can you tell our audience what that is all about and how we got to this sorry place in
00:20:01.560 our judicial system?
00:20:03.540 Well, I will only give Judge Trevor McFadden about a half of cheer for what he did.
00:20:09.140 He was a Trump-appointed judge.
00:20:11.000 He has helped detain even a nonviolent offender who's been behind bars for over a year.
00:20:16.600 So he has played along with DOJ's game.
00:20:19.300 He came from the same U.S. attorney's office, now prosecuting all these cases.
00:20:22.900 The D.C.
00:20:23.920 U.S. attorney's office, don't know why President Trump appointed him, but anyway, we're stuck
00:20:28.400 with him.
00:20:29.400 But look, so what came out is that the DOJ has been lying for over a year that Kamala
00:20:35.000 Harris was in the building during the Capitol protest.
00:20:38.020 The reason why this is important is because it supports thousands of charges related to
00:20:43.680 restricted access in the building.
00:20:45.900 Because Kamala Harris and Mike Pence are Secret Service protectees, therefore the building was
00:20:50.720 restricted to the public.
00:20:52.440 And this bolsters thousands of charges against hundreds of protesters.
00:20:58.580 So it turns out Kamala Harris was not in the building.
00:21:01.940 Judge McFadden didn't figure that out.
00:21:03.980 Politico actually reported it.
00:21:06.380 And McFadden was the first judge to call DOJ out on it.
00:21:10.580 Meanwhile, all of these judges have presented this information falsely to a grand jury, to federal
00:21:17.100 judges, to defense attorneys.
00:21:19.360 It's in, I don't even know how many court filings the DOJ has said Kamala Harris was in the building, 0.99
00:21:24.980 therefore rendering the building restricted access.
00:21:28.300 So they lied about that.
00:21:29.740 McFadden called them out, wanted an explanation, and then denied what they wanted to present in
00:21:35.700 court in a jury trial, which was pending.
00:21:37.820 I know that's a little complicated, but the bottom line is the DOJ lied.
00:21:41.280 The federal courts let them get away with it.
00:21:43.980 The grand jury was intentionally misled.
00:21:46.300 Defense counsel was intentionally misled.
00:21:49.080 And it wasn't until Politico reported this that anyone acknowledged it.
00:21:54.020 Now, how do they back out of this?
00:21:55.560 I don't know.
00:21:56.480 Furthermore, the location of Mike Pence now is very vague because they keep saying they,
00:22:01.920 we don't know if Mike Pence was actually in the building either.
00:22:04.820 If he wasn't, and they have intentionally misled everyone on Mike Pence, then all of those
00:22:11.460 charges have to be tossed out.
00:22:14.640 At this point, I would say to you as a, not an objective reader, but one who tries to be
00:22:21.140 objective as I try to keep up with all of the news of the day, just as you do, there is
00:22:28.400 no way in hell that anyone should put up with a court system, a federal prosecutorial system.
00:22:36.300 These agencies, these judges, these investigators, and this January 6th committee, why in the
00:22:44.840 world are we permitting this to go ahead?
00:22:48.220 And why would not the Republican Party leadership?
00:22:51.260 And here I'm talking about Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader of the House, and Mitch McConnell,
00:22:56.000 the minority leader of the Senate, why in the world would they not go after these Dems and
00:23:03.800 demand that they back off? 0.99
00:23:07.900 Well, they're weak and they're craven.
00:23:12.120 They're afraid. 0.90
00:23:13.640 They have been cowed by all the bad press.
00:23:16.940 Mitch McConnell has been in on this from the beginning.
00:23:19.780 We've talked about this.
00:23:21.020 Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi, Muriel Bowser, were responsible for securing the Capitol.
00:23:26.000 on January 6th, not Donald Trump, those three individuals, those leaders were responsible.
00:23:32.100 So we need to ask Mitch McConnell why he did not advise his Sergeant of Arms to submit to
00:23:38.980 requests by the Capitol Police, the chief of the Capitol Police for more security that day.
00:23:45.520 Why did they leave the building and the grounds intentionally unsecure?
00:23:49.280 There are so many questions about Mitch McConnell and his involvement working with Nancy Pelosi
00:23:55.620 and others to what I describe January 6th as an inside job.
00:23:59.980 So where is he?
00:24:01.160 He's silent.
00:24:02.140 I mean, he just called this a violent insurrection two or three weeks ago.
00:24:06.740 So he is in on the narrative.
00:24:09.000 Kevin McCarthy and others, there's no excuse for this.
00:24:12.180 Um, Lou, if there was a political prison in Washington, DC under Trump's DOJ by his attorney
00:24:20.020 general holding, um, Trump, uh, uh, you know, protesters against Donald Trump in a political
00:24:26.520 prison, the first people who would show up would be people like Kevin McCarthy, Ben Sasse,
00:24:33.000 Mitt Romney showing up in front of the prison saying, this is not who we are.
00:24:37.160 They have been completely silent, which means they are complicit.
00:24:40.420 And if they think that these powers are not going to be turned against them because they're
00:24:45.180 silent and they're craven, um, you know, read a history book.
00:24:49.020 That's not how regimes like this work.
00:24:51.940 It is, it is, it's gut-wrenching.
00:24:55.640 Uh, it's sickening for any American who cares about this country, cares about our constitutional
00:25:01.980 republic, cares about our bill of rights, our individual freedoms to, to tolerate this.
00:25:08.320 And, you know, I don't hear preachers in their, you know, in their pulpits.
00:25:13.040 I don't hear the politicians and their official capacity raising hell about this.
00:25:20.420 Uh, it, it is.
00:25:21.680 And by the way, what, what's wrong with American citizens that we are not marching on Washington
00:25:28.760 to tell them enough.
00:25:30.180 We're not going this far.
00:25:32.200 We are going to be a constitutional republic.
00:25:35.440 Our freedoms will be honored by every one of you. 0.98
00:25:38.340 Silly, uh, left-wing judges, prosecutors. 0.96
00:25:43.740 And if you don't like it too bad, because we're going to root you out no matter what it 0.99
00:25:48.920 takes.
00:25:49.280 I think you are hearing this from the base.
00:25:53.040 I mean, I hear it a lot.
00:25:54.600 I know that this issue is in the forefront of, um, Republican conservative rank and file,
00:26:01.340 and they are pushing their lawmakers to do and say something, because I'll tell you, I've
00:26:07.120 heard this firsthand from congressmen who ignored my reporting, who ignored my pleas on
00:26:13.580 social media for some sort of attention.
00:26:16.180 Even congressmen I spoke with directly last year about political prisoners and what was
00:26:21.360 happening.
00:26:21.840 They would not touch this with the 10 foot pole.
00:26:24.380 They are now being forced to confront this investigation, the political prison, everything
00:26:28.800 I talk about in my book on January 6th, they're being forced to do it because they are getting
00:26:34.080 heat from their constituents and donors, but this is not what should be happening in America.
00:26:39.800 Furthermore, I think it's going to be an issue in the 20, in the midterms this year, especially
00:26:43.780 in primaries.
00:26:44.560 And when Republicans take the house, they will be forced by this base and other people like
00:26:51.200 Marjorie Taylor Greene and Louie Gohmert and Paul Gosar, Matt Gatz, the handful of Republicans
00:26:56.340 who have been very outspoken about what's happening.
00:26:59.060 They're going to be forced to deal with what this DOJ, this federal court system did, continues
00:27:06.160 to do to these innocent people.
00:27:08.560 Um, so they're forced into a corner and I don't think that rank and file are going to let 1.00
00:27:13.520 them get away with it.
00:27:15.300 I, I want to say this just, uh, not to temper what you said, but to just add a part of a
00:27:23.100 piece to it.
00:27:23.900 And that is if the Republicans win, as it does now look likely the country went back to control
00:27:30.840 the House and the Senate, it will amount to nothing if Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy or any other
00:27:39.180 rhino is left as the leader of the party in those conferences in the Senate and the House.
00:27:45.760 That's right.
00:27:46.420 And, and, and no one wants to deal with that reality, but that is the reality.
00:27:52.160 Uh, they're actually, uh, some of the, uh, activity and fundraising that's going on in
00:27:57.160 this country speaks to that very thing.
00:27:59.080 We're taking back the house.
00:28:00.160 We're taking back the Senate.
00:28:01.400 Well, what good does it do if we don't get rid of McConnell, who is as complicit and compliant
00:28:09.280 with the left as you could imagine any, any citizen could imagine of a quote unquote, loyal
00:28:14.980 opposition party and Kevin McCarthy, who now is trying to sound like a conservative, but
00:28:20.180 you know, he through and through he's a rhino.
00:28:22.900 That's right.
00:28:24.660 Um, yes, you're right.
00:28:27.500 We cannot do anything with this current leadership.
00:28:29.480 We absolutely cannot.
00:28:31.480 They won't get anything done.
00:28:33.060 They'll talk a lot.
00:28:33.960 They'll be like Lindsey Graham, make all kinds of threats to get to the bottom of things. 0.99
00:28:37.520 And, you know, with a wink and a nod on the side, it just, we cannot move forward with
00:28:41.980 this existing leadership structure.
00:28:43.820 You are a hundred percent, right.
00:28:45.440 I want to, to turn, uh, to, to, again, you're reporting on the mystery surrounding January
00:28:53.740 6th and what it amounts to in the case of, uh, Mike Pence is where were both vice presidents?
00:29:01.880 Uh, where was Pence?
00:29:03.780 Where was Kamala Harris? 0.98
00:29:04.980 Why should there be a question about where they were?
00:29:09.160 They were under secret service protection.
00:29:11.480 Uh, this is, uh, one of the most important, uh, aspects of this entire case is where were
00:29:18.300 the people who had to be present for certification of the election to begin with?
00:29:23.540 It's very strange, Lou, that Kamala Harris would leave the Capitol around 11 or 1130 that
00:29:29.700 day after a Senate intelligence briefing, then go to the headquarters of the national, uh,
00:29:35.800 democratic national committee, which by the way, we were told a pipe bomb was outside of
00:29:40.760 that building.
00:29:41.300 If you recall why she went there, why her secret service detail didn't find this alleged
00:29:47.020 pipe bomb in a security sweep before she went to the building, why we're finding out
00:29:52.000 a year later, she left the Capitol and went to the DNC?
00:29:57.400 Yes, we need answers about Mike Pence, but there are a lot of unanswered questions.
00:30:01.800 Why did they leave the Capitol unsecure?
00:30:04.040 Where's the 14,000 hours of surveillance video captured by Capitol police security cameras that
00:30:09.040 we can't see?
00:30:10.340 Why are they hiding that?
00:30:11.640 Under protective orders, how many FBI informants and undercover agents were either infiltrated,
00:30:19.560 infiltrated these militia groups ahead of time and were on the ground on January 6th?
00:30:24.700 Hundreds of them we know were there.
00:30:27.580 Why haven't they been identified?
00:30:29.400 What were they doing?
00:30:31.120 Um, why did Capitol police in some sections of the building let hundreds of protesters inside
00:30:36.540 who authorized DC Metro police and Capitol police to attack protesters?
00:30:41.160 With tear gas, with pepper balls, with sting balls and rubber bullets, dousing them with
00:30:46.900 tear gas, who authorized that?
00:30:49.160 There are so many unanswered questions about January 6th.
00:30:53.140 And the reason why those answers are not being disclosed or covered up is because this is going
00:30:58.500 to be at the end of the day, the biggest inside job of the American government against a political
00:31:05.400 party and sitting president that has ever been.
00:31:08.520 It will make Russiagate look like a kindergarten play when we get most of the truth about who
00:31:14.360 was involved, what happened ahead of time, and who set the marching orders for that day
00:31:19.660 to do, uh, to execute exactly what happened.
00:31:23.140 We, Julie's referring to Russiagate, uh, and the administration of Donald Trump and the
00:31:30.380 active conspiracy to overthrow a presidency, uh, for, by the way, for four years of his four
00:31:39.360 year term, he was under FBI investigation before that under fraudulent, uh, under a fraudulent
00:31:46.180 predicate.
00:31:47.200 Uh, he has been under investigation since he left and Americans need to ask themselves a
00:31:52.920 single question.
00:31:54.140 What do you think would have been the result?
00:31:56.540 Had any other president in history been surveilled while a candidate, uh, for the office of president
00:32:05.040 who was spied upon wiretapped, uh, uh, throughout his presidency against whom, uh, the Dems brought
00:32:15.540 two impeachment efforts that were absolutely fraudulent and they constructed the fraudulent
00:32:22.600 premise for those investigations.
00:32:24.320 And the special counsel that resulted from, uh, the, uh, crossfire hurricane investigation
00:32:32.220 was absolutely a joke and not a single single charge resulted from any of it.
00:32:40.260 Uh, it is disgusting that the American people are caught up in some sort of mass hypnosis
00:32:46.220 or half of them, uh, a mass hypnosis that doesn't accept the reality of what we witnessed,
00:32:53.480 what we saw, what is empirically without contradiction.
00:32:58.200 It has been proved the man was guilty of nothing in two, as a result of investigations that took
00:33:06.680 up four years and more, uh, it's, it's, it's stunning to me.
00:33:11.860 It's just another outrage that everyone basically involved with Russiagate except for one DOJ attorney
00:33:21.840 and one Perkins Coie attorney, uh, have not been federally charged.
00:33:26.780 People like Jim Comey, Sally Yates, Andy McCabe, Rod Rosenstein should all be sitting in jail,
00:33:34.000 not people who paraded at the Capitol for 10 minutes.
00:33:37.480 Those people, because they concocted it, they took their marching orders from Barack Obama
00:33:42.720 to do this.
00:33:43.700 They lied to Congress.
00:33:45.260 They lied to a secret court, the FISA court, which admitted that they had been misled.
00:33:50.760 These people signed sworn, uh, warrants in court before the FISA court, Comey, Sally
00:33:58.940 Yates, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, go through the list of everyone who signed that FISA four
00:34:03.500 times. 0.97
00:34:04.140 They signed it using the dossier, which was pure political trash propaganda. 0.98
00:34:10.040 They all should be sitting in jail, but they got away with it. 0.96
00:34:14.000 The Mueller probe disabled the first half of Trump's presidency.
00:34:17.760 That's an understatement while they tried to ruin people's lives and successfully did
00:34:23.380 in some cases.
00:34:24.720 But when the administrative state saw that they could get away with that, it only emboldened
00:34:30.760 them, which I think was fueled what happened on January 6th.
00:34:35.360 They now know that they can get away with anything and there is no price to pay.
00:34:41.060 This is not sustainable, Lou, in a democracy.
00:34:44.820 You cannot have the government in Washington, D.C.
00:34:47.540 at war with its own people like we're seeing in Canada now.
00:34:51.020 They have been doing this for years and it's only escalating.
00:34:55.440 And so something's got to give.
00:34:57.420 But to your point, the Republican leadership we have now is not the team to bring in to
00:35:02.160 finally bring the swords out and fight back and retaliate and hold these people accountable.
00:35:06.920 Julie, I don't want to conclude our conversation at all, but unfortunately we must.
00:35:14.600 But I do not want to leave this conversation without talking about the people that you referred
00:35:20.800 to, federal agents and others inspired and supported and connected to the federal government
00:35:30.000 were obviously there in Washington on January 6th.
00:35:33.920 One of the names, Epps, is a mysterious character who alludes really identification in significant
00:35:42.680 ways.
00:35:43.460 Your thoughts about him and his involvement?
00:35:48.660 Well, there's no reason, Lou, why he has not been charged.
00:35:51.840 So Ray Epps is the man who was seen the night before and on January 6th, encouraging people
00:35:57.100 on several occasions to go into the Capitol building.
00:35:59.940 Most importantly, he is the man who whispers in the ear of Ryan Samsel, who is the first
00:36:05.880 person to breach the official barriers far outside of the Capitol building.
00:36:13.320 Ray Epps whispers in Ryan Samsel's ear.
00:36:16.320 Ryan Samsel then pushes over a few of these metal racks, knocks over a few police officers
00:36:21.640 and leads a big crowd up the stairs towards the building.
00:36:24.460 This happens around 10 minutes to one on January 6th, while the president, by the way, is still
00:36:29.980 speaking more than two miles away.
00:36:32.620 So he also is on restricted grounds.
00:36:36.120 There's no reason why he has not been charged when so many others have been charged for far
00:36:41.240 less what he did.
00:36:42.640 We can't get a straight answer from the FBI.
00:36:45.440 The January 6th committee lied and said that they interviewed him and then had to come back
00:36:49.940 and say, oh, he's going to sit for a formal sworn interview because people were asking
00:36:54.600 for the transcript of his testimony.
00:36:57.220 But Ray Epps is just the tip of the iceberg of either federal agents or undercover or confidential
00:37:04.840 human sources or political actors who were infiltrated.
00:37:10.460 I mean, thousands of them with this crowd outside and inside the building on January 6th.
00:37:16.100 And so that's just one more mystery we cannot get answers from.
00:37:20.780 And what is it going to take to get those answers?
00:37:24.240 And at what point, what can the Republican Party do to stand up for the people who are
00:37:32.380 political prisoners of this Soviet-era-style secret court called the January 6th committee?
00:37:42.000 What can the Republicans do?
00:37:44.680 Why isn't there an action plan from the Republicans?
00:37:49.080 It defies reason to see this feckless behavior on the part of the Republican leadership, whether
00:37:57.740 it be on Capitol Hill, whether it be the RNC, whether it be, frankly, the supporters of
00:38:03.660 the former president.
00:38:05.160 You shut down all of their funding when they take control in Congress.
00:38:10.100 You zero out the budget of the FBI and the DO and the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office.
00:38:15.580 You shut down what they now just changed the terms of, Capitol Breach Probe to the Capitol
00:38:20.020 Siege Probe.
00:38:22.440 You shut off their funding source as much as you possibly can.
00:38:26.500 Then you get all of the documentations, all of the correspondence between the FBI and their
00:38:32.100 various field offices and all the confidential human sources or undercover agents that they
00:38:36.780 use.
00:38:37.100 You call back people like Chris Ray and Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, who had hundreds
00:38:42.480 of special forces, FBI official officers at Quantico the weekend before January 6th.
00:38:49.820 Now, why did he have spot teams, hostage rescue teams, hundreds of agents that he then deployed
00:38:55.860 to the Capitol on the morning of January 6th?
00:38:58.740 What was Jeffrey Rosen doing?
00:39:01.020 What were these FBI agents doing?
00:39:03.040 When they got to the Capitol, what did they do?
00:39:05.700 Did they infiltrate these militia groups?
00:39:07.560 Did they provoke some of the violence?
00:39:09.480 We can't get an answer from the FBI.
00:39:12.280 Jill Sanborn, a top FBI official, was asked numerous times, if any FBI agents or informants
00:39:21.000 either provoked or engaged in violent behavior on January 6th, she would not answer the question.
00:39:26.940 So, you make her answer the question, if she doesn't, then you do what they're doing now.
00:39:31.900 Hold her in contempt of Congress, of course it will go to Biden's DOJ, but they need to
00:39:35.980 do nothing, Lou, except get to the answers, expose all the correspondence, shut down the
00:39:42.480 funding source.
00:39:44.380 What is paying for this war on terror, as I call it in my book, war on terror against the
00:39:50.840 political right?
00:39:51.520 Yeah, and we've got to confront one other reality, and that reality is that Mitch McConnell
00:40:00.520 and Kevin McCarthy don't want to get these answers.
00:40:03.820 That's right.
00:40:04.640 And with that being the case, the American people are going to have to make their own judgments
00:40:10.100 and come up with demands that should be expressed publicly, whether in civilian protests and
00:40:18.680 demonstrations against this form of government or demands from their representatives in Washington
00:40:26.540 that they behave like, you know, they might read a book by John F. Kennedy called Profiles
00:40:32.400 in Courage.
00:40:33.180 It would be a helpful time to do it.
00:40:35.560 That courage is being demonstrated all the time by Julie Kelly.
00:40:40.540 We, you've heard her mention her book.
00:40:43.280 I have mentioned it once.
00:40:44.680 I want to make sure that we mention it as we wrap up here.
00:40:48.780 Her bestselling book, January 6th, How Democrats Use the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror
00:40:55.560 Against the Political Right.
00:40:57.560 She is also, as you've heard her express here, a great, great American.
00:41:03.480 Julie, you're doing the Lord's work, and we really appreciate you and all that you're doing,
00:41:08.320 and continued good luck as you pursue these tremendous, these huge stories that are going
00:41:15.420 to be important parts of this country's history.
00:41:19.520 Well, I appreciate your having me on.
00:41:21.440 Thank you so much for covering my work.
00:41:23.460 Thanks, Julie.
00:41:24.320 And we hope to have you back soon.
00:41:26.540 Thank you.
00:41:27.520 God bless, Julie Kelly.
00:41:29.240 And tomorrow, General Keith Kellogg will join us to take up the Ukrainian crisis, Russia's
00:41:35.700 war on Ukraine, and now President Biden's ban on Russian oil, and whether there is truly
00:41:42.400 an end in sight with peace for the Ukrainian people.
00:41:46.580 General Kellogg, here tomorrow.
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