The Great America Show - WILL AMERICA BE HUMBLED？

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00:00:33.580 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Thanks for being with us on The Great America Show.

00:00:38.700 Former Biden Special Counsel Robert Herr on Capitol Hill yesterday testifying before the House Judiciary Committee

00:00:45.740 about the investigation that he conducted into the most corrupt president in history.

00:00:50.360 Here is the former special counsel telling the American people that Joe Biden knowingly illegally retained classified documents.

00:00:58.940 My team and I conducted a thorough, independent investigation.

00:01:03.680 We identified evidence that the president willfully retained classified materials after the end of his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.

00:01:11.000 This evidence included an audio-recorded conversation during which Mr. Biden told his ghostwriter that he had, quote,

00:01:19.280 just found all the classified stuff downstairs, end quote.

00:01:23.480 When Mr. Biden said this, he was a private citizen speaking to his ghostwriter in his private rental home in Virginia.

00:01:31.040 We also identified other recorded conversations during which Mr. Biden read classified information aloud to his ghostwriter.

00:01:38.180 So not only did Herr conclude in his investigation that Biden illegally harbored classified documents,

00:01:45.000 but that Biden then shared those documents with his ghostwriter.

00:01:49.040 Those are the words of the former special counsel.

00:01:51.620 Now listen to Biden last month vehemently and angrily, denying he shared those documents with his ghostwriter.

00:01:58.920 I did not share classified information.

00:02:01.940 I did not share it.

00:02:02.980 With your ghostwriter?

00:02:03.600 With my ghostwriter.

00:02:04.340 I did not.

00:02:05.060 Guarantee you did not.

00:02:06.300 But the special counsel said it?

00:02:07.440 Well, no, he did not say that.

00:02:08.920 Okay.

00:02:09.260 He did not say that.

00:02:10.240 What a fool.

00:02:11.920 So the question is, why is Biden getting away with it?

00:02:15.440 Congressman Matt Gaetz was at that hearing yesterday, having no part of her's defense of Biden, senile or otherwise.

00:02:23.180 Gaetz asked the question every American should ask.

00:02:26.240 Why was Trump charged for keeping documents he was allowed to keep?

00:02:29.800 And why was Biden given a pass with documents that he had to steal?

00:02:34.280 The White House question, Mr. President, why did you share classified information with your ghostwriter, the president?

00:02:41.680 I did not share classified information.

00:02:43.960 I did not share it.

00:02:44.820 I guarantee I did not.

00:02:47.500 That's not true, is it, Mr. Herr?

00:02:49.720 That is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report.

00:02:53.880 Yes, it's a lie.

00:02:54.760 It's just what regular people would say, right?

00:02:57.360 Yeah.

00:02:57.720 All right.

00:02:58.100 So the next one.

00:02:59.020 And all the stuff that was in my home was in filing cabinets that were either locked or able to be locked.

00:03:07.340 That wasn't true either, was it?

00:03:08.780 That was inconsistent with the findings of our investigation.

00:03:11.700 Another lie, people might say, right?

00:03:13.540 Because what you put in your report was among the places Mr. Biden's lawyers found classified documents in the garage was a damaged open box.

00:03:21.260 So here's what I'm what I'm understanding, right?

00:03:23.160 As Mr. Armstrong laid out, you find in your report that the elements of a federal criminal violation are met.

00:03:29.340 But then you apply this senile cooperator theory that because Joe Biden cooperated and the elevator doesn't go to the top floor, you don't think you get a conviction.

00:03:37.940 And I actually think you get to the right answer in that.

00:03:40.920 I don't think Biden should have been charged.

00:03:42.340 Don't think Trump should have been charged.

00:03:43.400 But under like the senile cooperator theory, isn't it frustrating that Biden continues to go out and lie about the basic facts of the report that lay out a federal criminal violation?

00:03:55.960 Congressman, I need to disagree with at least one thing that you said, which is that I found that all of the elements were met.

00:04:02.680 One of the elements of the relevant mishandling statute is the intent element.

00:04:06.660 And what my report reflects is my judgment that based on the evidence, I would not be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that that intent element had been.

00:04:14.980 Right. But the reason you have that doubt is that is the senile cooperator theory.

00:04:19.400 The fact that Joe Biden is so inept in responding that you can't prove the intent, which, again, I don't quibble with that conclusion.

00:04:26.700 But it's frustrating to be like, oh, well, this guy's not getting treated the same way as Trump because the elevator is not going to the top floor.

00:04:31.960 So we can't prove intent.

00:04:33.140 Well, at the same time, Biden goes out there at the White House and says, well, you know, he just he just he just blatantly lies.

00:04:39.540 And what I'm trying to figure out is whether or not Biden's lying because he's still so senile.

00:04:43.460 He hasn't read your report or whether it's a little craftier and a little more devious and perhaps a little more intentional than we might otherwise think.

00:04:51.980 The American people deserve answers and we deserve them now.

00:04:54.880 If this man's too senile to withstand trial, he's far too senile to be the leader of the free world.

00:05:00.880 And House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer subpoenaed 13 years of Hunter Biden's AT&T phone records.

00:05:08.880 In his subpoena to AT&T, Comer said Hunter's user activity could encompass a personal phone line President Biden used during his vice presidency.

00:05:18.880 We know from Peter Swiser's new book, Blood Money, that Hunter Biden's business paid for a private phone line that Joe Biden also used when he was vice president.

00:05:28.980 It was a $300 a month bill for a global phone that could access somebody anywhere around the world.

00:05:35.840 It was Swiser who turned those phone records over to the Oversight Committee.

00:05:41.100 And Rhino Congressman Ken Buck is on his way out, set to retire next week, leaving Congress early and Congress is grateful. 0.99

00:05:49.300 Leaving the Republicans with a razor thin majority of 218 to 213.

00:05:53.720 More than 20 House Republicans have announced they're not seeking re-election, mostly rhinos and good riddance. 1.00

00:06:01.280 Our guest today is Congressman Eli Crane of Arizona, who sits on the House Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs and Small Business Committees and a member of the House Freedom Caucus.

00:06:11.740 Crane was one of the eight brave Republicans who voted to oust Speaker McCarthy, and he's paying the price for it.

00:06:19.080 He now has a primary opponent who will presumably be well-funded by none other than Rhino Kevin McCarthy.

00:06:27.620 Congressman, it's great to have you with us.

00:06:29.840 Let's start with the Robert Herr hearing today and your thoughts about what it amounted to.

00:06:37.860 Well, I think it just, once again, shows the American people how dishonest the Commander-in-Chief is, how corrupt he is.

00:06:47.680 And, you know, I'm hoping it will, you know, really lead to a blowout victory for President Trump come this November.

00:06:55.660 How about for all the Republicans in Congress, too?

00:06:59.500 Yeah.

00:06:59.960 No, no, you're absolutely right.

00:07:01.720 When you look at what we need to have happen in the House and the Senate, we need to retake the Senate.

00:07:10.260 We need to maintain the House.

00:07:13.000 But, man, I'd love to see you guys expand your majority by about 20 seats.

00:07:17.740 What do you think?

00:07:19.180 Yeah, you know, part of me would like to see that as well, too, Lou.

00:07:22.260 But I will tell you one of the reasons that we were able to at least get some, you know, I would say minor wins this last Congress is because the majority was so thin.

00:07:35.780 A lot of people don't realize, Lou, that nobody cares what the conservatives have to say or think when the majority is really big.

00:07:43.020 The only time they listen to us is when the majority is razor thin and they need our votes.

00:07:48.280 And so it's kind of a weird dichotomy, but it kind of works out that way.

00:07:54.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:07:55.900 I never thought about it that way.

00:07:58.520 I would think that that larger majority would make the Marxist Dems come to just a little bit.

00:08:07.160 Yeah.

00:08:07.860 And you're not wrong to, you know, go along that common sense track like that.

00:08:13.320 And that's how I thought about it, too, until some of my friends in the Freedom Caucus told me that they were actually praying for a thin majority,

00:08:20.940 because when there's a huge or a large majority on our side of the aisle, the establishment, moderate Republicans,

00:08:29.320 they don't care what the members of the Freedom Caucus or the real conservatives in the House think.

00:08:34.820 They don't have to because they don't need our votes.

00:08:37.360 Well, you know, with Ken Buck leaving the majority and getting out of Congress sooner rather than later,

00:08:45.060 in which, by the way, I would I would just hope that the screen door doesn't hit him in the rear end as he exits.

00:08:51.720 I mean, I can't even imagine what freak shows like that are doing in Congress to begin with.

00:08:57.200 And I just I mean, we're watching people in that U.S. Congress.

00:09:02.640 Personally, I wouldn't want them in the neighborhood, let alone in the Congress.

00:09:06.340 Well, you know, I just heard about I just heard that Ken was choosing to leave early.

00:09:13.600 I haven't had a chance to talk to him about it.

00:09:16.460 But, you know, obviously, there's going to be a heavy turnover coming up in this this house.

00:09:22.100 I hope like you and many of your listeners that we get the personnel up here that the American people send them to us because we got a lot of work to do, Lou.

00:09:30.980 And this country is a mess.

00:09:32.920 And so is this body.

00:09:34.420 Yeah, this is that body indeed.

00:09:37.840 I just want to turn to looking at where we are with the seven point three trillion dollar budget that was handed down as if anybody in their right mind would want to think about that as good sense, good fiscal policy.

00:09:53.160 It's an embarrassment.

00:09:56.580 What we're we're watching cooked up on Capitol Hill or handed down from 1600 Pennsylvania.

00:10:03.900 It's just it's disgusting to me that we haven't got more common sense, more passion, more fire in the belly in our representatives and what we obviously don't have what we lack.

00:10:19.200 No, you're right, Lou.

00:10:21.700 And it's one of the most frustrating things about being up here.

00:10:24.460 There's really no appetite to quit spending the American people's money that we don't have.

00:10:31.040 And it's like I said, it is extremely frustrating.

00:10:33.840 This is one of the biggest issues I have with my own party.

00:10:37.540 I've tried to be really outspoken about it, you know, though it can be conflicting at times to be on committees with folks and, you know, to be on the same team, if you will.

00:10:47.680 But also knowing that, you know, as Republicans, we're supposed to be the ones that stop this out of control nonsense.

00:10:55.200 And we don't show any desire to do that.

00:10:58.200 We just continue to help manage the decline of this country.

00:11:01.860 And I think it's unacceptable.

00:11:03.660 And, you know, quite honestly, it's it's embarrassing at times.

00:11:08.920 Well, it's embarrassing to me to think that this country can't do better than what we're doing.

00:11:15.220 Certainly, give give give us a sense, if you will, of what a Republican is supposed to be all about right now, because they're playing with you.

00:11:27.820 There's no doubt they hand down from the White House seven point three trillion in a budget and then want to talk about the big four or the big eight, whoever you want to call it.

00:11:38.860 And they're just they're nothing more than functionaries without either passion, without conscience, without any kind of any kind of forget moral compass.

00:11:54.000 I'd take just a compass in terms of direction politically.

00:11:58.400 Yeah, Lou, when you say what what is the Republican Party supposed to be about?

00:12:04.540 And I know not everybody up here on my side of the aisle shares my perspective of this, but I would say two words, America first.

00:12:12.620 You know, and it makes it really simple when when you boil it down to that, you know, whether you look at that economically, what should that mean?

00:12:19.640 It should mean that we should get our own house in order before we start sending money all over the globe.

00:12:25.300 When you look at it from a national security perspective, it means that, you know, we should protect our citizens, the communities, the families that send us up here.

00:12:34.660 And that starts at the southern border.

00:12:36.200 You know, when it comes to Ukraine, you know, we shouldn't be sending, you know, tens of billions of dollars over to one of the most corrupt nations in the world and escalating a war with Vladimir Putin, who has more nuclear weapons than I think anybody on the globe.

00:12:51.180 And you could go on and on and on.

00:12:52.940 But if you if you put that America first lens in between anything that you're looking at, it really simplifies things that, quite frankly, can often be complicated.

00:13:01.880 We're talking with Eli Crane, and we were going to come back and we're going to talk with the congressman about why is the 82nd Airborne and the 101st Airborne and a bunch of other troops sitting over there on the eastern flank.

00:13:20.100 What are they waiting for?

00:13:21.980 And what are they going to do if Vladimir Putin does something?

00:13:25.700 It doesn't look like a brilliant strategy to me.

00:13:28.640 We'll find out what Eli Crane thinks as we continue.

00:13:31.800 Stay with us.

00:13:32.300 We'll be right back.

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00:15:10.520 We're back.

00:15:11.580 We're talking with Eli Crane.

00:15:12.920 And Congressman, the 82nd Airborne, 101st has been over there since almost the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:15:23.920 Why do we have the 82nd Airborne and the 101st Airborne, two elite outfits that are not supposed to be static and standing, but are not only that, they're sitting ducks right in the sight of Vladimir Putin and his troops?

00:15:44.660 Well, Lou, this is why many of us have been calling for peace talks.

00:15:49.940 You know, for me, I'm a freshman.

00:15:52.060 As soon as I got up here, that was what I was using my platform for.

00:15:56.040 I don't want to see this thing escalated.

00:15:58.200 I don't want to see us send any more treasure, you know, overseas to Ukraine, as I just talked to about with you before the break.

00:16:06.740 And I definitely don't want to see any soldiers in the in the airborne or any armed service unit for that matter, you know, have their blood spilled over this conflict.

00:16:17.680 I just don't think it's worth it.

00:16:19.960 I'm not buying into the, you know, the talking points from, you know, mainstream corporate media.

00:16:25.640 And I think that that's what we need to do.

00:16:27.900 We need to usher in peace talks and we need to bring this thing to an end.

00:16:33.160 And, you know, Biden has had a chance to do that.

00:16:35.000 He had a chance to stop this before it began.

00:16:38.060 He knew there were 200,000 Russian troops on the on the eastern border of Ukraine.

00:16:44.660 He knew those troops were going to go in.

00:16:47.280 And then after they went in six or seven months later, he knew he could get a peace deal.

00:16:53.980 But he chose not to Biden again.

00:16:58.360 And as I look at what's going on, it is it is if he wants people to die.

00:17:05.000 Americans to die. 1.00

00:17:07.220 And recently, the Polish foreign minister saying that it would not be unthinkable for NATO troops to go into Ukraine.

00:17:16.340 Well, you know, my, you know, my regards to the Polish foreign minister, but he's wrong as hell.

00:17:22.300 It is unthinkable.

00:17:23.620 Well, Lou, the sad thing is it's not just President Biden.

00:17:28.000 This has been an obsession of Mitch McConnell's and unfortunately members of the House as well, you know, for for many years.

00:17:35.880 And it almost seems as if they want to escalate this into the next World War three.

00:17:42.720 And, you know, I know there's many reasons and theories people have on why we would be doing that.

00:17:51.400 But like you and probably many of your listeners, I just don't I don't believe it.

00:17:55.940 I don't think that we have the leadership necessary to win a war of that magnitude with this adversary.

00:18:03.840 I don't think we have the resources to do it financially when we're thirty four trillion dollars in debt.

00:18:10.260 We have a two point I think five trillion dollar annual deficit.

00:18:14.480 I just don't think it's I don't think it's wise.

00:18:17.340 And then all at the same time, you have China licking their chops, looking at Taiwan.

00:18:22.380 You've got the situation in, you know, Israel, which is horrible.

00:18:27.680 And we also have a wide open southern border.

00:18:31.380 Right. And so I just don't think this is the time.

00:18:34.640 I don't think we can afford it.

00:18:36.400 And I don't want to see this continued.

00:18:39.120 I want to see peace talks.

00:18:41.820 But there are many up here on Capitol Hill who have this obsession with Ukraine.

00:18:47.220 That obsession is it seems like by by virtue of history is always paid for by the blood of other men on the front lines.

00:19:00.220 And that's that's not only a shame.

00:19:03.020 It to me, it's a crime against this nation on the part of these.

00:19:07.260 You know, if Mitch McConnell wants to go see something up close and personal, let him go over and let him stand in front of the the the Russian tanks.

00:19:19.360 Let him go on a personal inspection tour in the midst of conflict.

00:19:25.980 But to ask our young men to do it is to me just ignorant.

00:19:29.780 And again, utterly unthinkable.

00:19:33.280 Where do you think we go from here?

00:19:35.040 Where do you know, where do we go with about nine months remaining before the election and then another couple of months after that for the inauguration of a new president?

00:19:50.080 Well, you know, like many much wiser and smarter men before me have predicted, Lou, I think this is going to be a very wild year for for many different reasons.

00:20:00.720 But I don't I don't believe you're going to see a whole lot change up here in the House of Representatives or the Senate.

00:20:07.400 We have the same team taking the field every week.

00:20:10.260 Unfortunately, it's not a very conservative team.

00:20:13.140 We've showed time and time again that we have no desire to pick a principled fight and be willing to die on that hill, even though, you know, individuals will say that to television cameras.

00:20:25.880 And so I think you're going to see more more disappointment from the Congress.

00:20:31.260 And I sure as hell hope that President Trump is able to pull out a victory come November, because right now, outside of, you know, God doing something divine in this country,

00:20:43.200 I think that President Trump, you know, has the best chance of starting to turn this ship back in a, you know, more reasonable America first, where we focus on our citizens and what's best for our country, what's best for our neighborhoods, our districts and our communities than anybody else out there.

00:21:02.320 Yeah, I agree with you.

00:21:32.300 You know, more to think that your choice is a Joe Biden or or a Mitch McConnell.

00:21:38.740 We'll try to do better in the months and years ahead.

00:21:42.400 We're talking with Congressman Eli Crane, and we'll be right back right after this.

00:21:47.680 Stay with us.

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00:22:20.520 We're back now with Congressman Eli Crane, and I want to take up a few things.

00:22:30.200 The military has been torn to pieces right now, and no one should misunderstand this.

00:22:35.340 We're not only missing recruiting goals, we're losing experienced veterans who are leaving the service, and I mean all branches.

00:22:43.880 It is a disaster brought to you by Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense, and the geniuses at the Pentagon, as well as President Biden.

00:22:53.720 The DEI, diversity is our strength.

00:22:59.460 You and I know that is complete bull.

00:23:01.980 Our strength is strength, whether it is in terms of our technology, our weapons, and our men and women under arms.

00:23:11.080 We're watching DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, eat up the guts of our military.

00:23:19.580 What are we going to do about it?

00:23:21.440 Yeah, well, thank you, Lou, for bringing it up.

00:23:23.880 We've been working, matter of fact, specifically on a case with a young private down at Fort Jackson in South Carolina.

00:23:32.020 He's an Arizona resident.

00:23:34.540 The young man's from Peru.

00:23:35.900 We found out this week he actually got separated from the Army after I flew down there last week and interviewed the private.

00:23:44.460 I interviewed four of his peers.

00:23:46.080 I interviewed the colonel and the general down there to try and help this private get the opportunity to stay in the Army, move to his next command so he could serve his country.

00:23:56.500 But, you know, when I looked at the evidence that they were using to try and separate this young man, Lou, I saw a lot of holes in the story.

00:24:03.980 It looked like a railroad job to me.

00:24:06.280 And I'll tell you what, Lou, they were trying to make this young man to look like a white supremacist and a racist.

00:24:12.880 And he's not even white, Lou.

00:24:14.680 He's Peruvian, right? 0.82

00:24:16.620 And I talked to four of his peers and only one of the peers was white.

00:24:22.160 You know, one was black.

00:24:23.340 The other two, you know, I think were from Mexico or South America.

00:24:27.500 And they told me that this young man, I asked him, I said, is he a racist?

00:24:31.300 No.

00:24:32.000 Does he treat people differently because of the color of their skin?

00:24:35.540 No.

00:24:36.120 Do you think that he's being treated fairly?

00:24:38.240 No.

00:24:39.340 Do you get affected when you're around him because of it?

00:24:41.980 Yes.

00:24:43.280 You know, what's his problem?

00:24:45.320 Well, he's opinionated.

00:24:46.920 So he's conservative.

00:24:48.120 He's opinionated.

00:24:49.180 This whole thing started, Lou, with him having President Trump.

00:24:52.020 Now, the picture of President Trump is a screensaver on his phone.

00:24:55.920 He was asked when one of his classmates saw it, why he was a racist.

00:25:01.200 So those are the types of things that our individuals in the military are up against right now.

00:25:06.420 And you mentioned our recruiting issues right now.

00:25:10.640 There's been a patriot purge in the Army, the Navy, the Air Force for a while now.

00:25:16.100 It's one of the reasons our recruiting goals are down.

00:25:18.680 And this is just one more statistic.

00:25:20.640 And unfortunately, it doesn't look like we were able to say Private Piero Maranon.

00:25:26.900 But for all the grandparents and parents that listen to your show, Lou, you know, I'm very proud to be a veteran.

00:25:34.680 I'm proud to serve in the SEAL teams and as a gunner's mate in the Navy.

00:25:38.560 But I'll tell you what, this isn't the military that I served in.

00:25:41.400 And they aren't focused, Lou, on readiness.

00:25:44.760 They're not focused on lethality.

00:25:46.780 They're focused on social experiments, diversity, equity, and inclusion, and wokeness.

00:25:52.600 And even though that stuff has been permeating in our culture for a long time, the military was one spot we hoped it would never touch because nobody on the other side of that battlefield that you're on cares about any of that stuff.

00:26:10.560 All they care about is killing you.

00:26:12.520 And so, Lou, what I think you're going to see in the years to come outside of good men and women being forced out of our armed services, I think that the United States of America is going to be humbled.

00:26:23.220 I think we're going to get our butts kicked on the battlefield if we don't figure it out and get back to having a focus on lethality, readiness, and being the baddest military on the planet.

00:26:35.800 And unfortunately, Congressman, getting our butts kicked is exactly what Joe Biden wants to happen.

00:26:43.520 It's exactly what the Marxist Dems want to happen.

00:26:46.700 They want this country destroyed and everything it stands for destroyed.

00:26:51.200 So I don't know where we go, but I do believe that the future is just as unclear and as dark as you are painting.

00:27:01.000 And unfortunately, we're going to have to go through that and come out the other side.

00:27:06.200 And hopefully, with Donald Trump as our leader, we'll make it through clear and clean.

00:27:14.000 Congressman Eli Crane, thanks for being with us.

00:27:16.100 We appreciate it.

00:27:17.420 Thank you, Lou.

00:27:18.000 God bless you.

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The Great America Show - March 13, 2024

WILL AMERICA BE HUMBLED？

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