The Great America Show - September 26, 2024


WORLD POLICE： U.S. DEPLOYING AMERICAN TROOPS TO THE MIDDLE EAST ONCE AGAIN


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Length

50 minutes

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193.44533

Word Count

9,749

Sentence Count

802

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified on Capitol Hill Wednesday morning before the House Select Subcommittee on Weaponization of the Federal Government. The hearing was set to focus on how the FBI used its security clearance adjudication process to purge its ranks of conservatives and whistleblowers and punish those with views contrary to the leadership of the FBI.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:05.240 It's great to have you with us.
00:00:06.980 Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz this week, not denying that the federal
00:00:11.760 government sent confidential human sources in the crowd during the Capitol riots on January
00:00:16.800 6th of 2021.
00:00:19.120 Horowitz was testifying on Capitol Hill Wednesday morning before the House Select Subcommittee
00:00:22.800 on Weaponization of the Federal Government.
00:00:24.980 The hearing was set to focus on how the FBI used its security clearance adjudication process
00:00:30.280 to purge its ranks of conservatives and whistleblowers and punish those with views contrary to the
00:00:35.440 leadership of the FBI.
00:00:37.380 Take a listen to Congressman Thomas Massey's exchange with the Inspector General as those
00:00:42.340 government informants were clearly in the crowd during January 6th, according to Horowitz.
00:00:47.500 Do you have evidence of the number of confidential human sources that were operating on the Capitol
00:00:54.340 grounds on January 6th?
00:00:55.780 Our report will include the information in that regard.
00:00:59.080 Can you tell us today how many there were?
00:01:01.960 Were there more than 100?
00:01:03.160 I'm not in a position to say that, both because it's in draft form and we have not gone through
00:01:08.420 the classification review, and so I need to be careful on what I said.
00:01:12.460 So we're four years in.
00:01:13.400 The reason to do these reports, I think, is so we don't make this, if there were any mistakes,
00:01:17.740 not to make the same mistakes again.
00:01:19.280 But we are just weeks away from the inauguration, and we're four years, almost four years into
00:01:25.100 this report.
00:01:26.560 When is it going to be released?
00:01:28.680 It's certainly my hope and expectation, although I don't control this entirely because it has
00:01:33.800 to go through a classification review.
00:01:35.820 But certainly in the next couple of months is my hope.
00:01:40.200 Do you think, is there any consideration for the election about the release of this report?
00:01:44.860 Would you delay it in order to not release it right before the election?
00:01:50.520 At this point, given the process that has to play out in terms of classification review
00:01:55.740 and all of that, I'm not making any, I don't have to make any judgment about that.
00:02:00.180 We're still, that still has to go on.
00:02:02.360 Just to give you a sense of it when I did the Pfizer review.
00:02:04.280 You're saying it's not even going to be done in time before the election?
00:02:08.140 It doesn't, I doubt it would be done in time for the election.
00:02:12.340 Is it going to be done before the inauguration?
00:02:15.620 That is certainly my hope.
00:02:17.360 It's your hope.
00:02:17.860 We're four years into it.
00:02:19.220 And what we do know is you're going to expose that there were confidential human sources at
00:02:25.540 the Capitol.
00:02:26.660 Can you tell us today how many went into the Capitol?
00:02:31.520 I'll have that information in the report.
00:02:33.320 I'm not able to speak to information in there, both because it's in draft and we get a response
00:02:41.240 from the department and the FBI, but also because I don't know yet what's classified
00:02:46.420 and not classified.
00:02:47.940 Congressman Thomas Massey asking all the right questions to hold this government accountable
00:02:51.800 for all the bad they've done to January 6th political hostages and many other Americans
00:02:56.720 affected by it.
00:02:57.920 We all suspected there were government actors there on January 6th.
00:03:01.000 It's now confirmed over in the Middle East.
00:03:03.940 Things aren't going much better.
00:03:05.660 Israel has ramped up its war on Hezbollah and the Pentagon has announced we're now deploying
00:03:10.080 troops to the Middle East to support to take all this up and much more.
00:03:13.980 Our guest today is Tony Schaefer.
00:03:15.720 He's a retired Pentagon Intel operative.
00:03:18.240 Tony, it's great to have you here on the Great America Show.
00:03:20.280 Thanks so much for joining us.
00:03:21.940 President Biden at the United Nations this week, causing a traffic jam in New York for all
00:03:25.840 New Yorkers.
00:03:26.460 I don't even know why he went.
00:03:27.560 He should have called in from Zoom.
00:03:28.640 Maybe they could have got verbiage of what he was saying because nobody really understands
00:03:32.680 what the man says.
00:03:33.640 And I'm not saying it's it's sad that that that's who's leading our country right now,
00:03:38.800 the leader of the free world.
00:03:40.340 Take a listen.
00:03:41.420 He talks about Afghanistan and he says he stands by that withdrawal.
00:03:46.360 Still hasn't mentioned the name of those 13 U.S. service members who were so tragically
00:03:50.080 killed.
00:03:51.020 Accused President Trump of using their tombstones as a campaign device, but still hasn't mentioned
00:03:56.660 the names of these people.
00:03:57.680 But he says he stands by it.
00:03:58.780 Take a listen.
00:03:59.500 We need to end the era of war that began on 9-11.
00:04:04.220 As vice president to President Obama, he asked me to work to wind down the military operations
00:04:09.940 in Iraq.
00:04:11.600 And we did, painful as it was.
00:04:14.380 When I came to office as president, Afghanistan had replaced Vietnam as America's longest war.
00:04:20.180 I was determined to end it, and I did.
00:04:25.000 It was a hard decision, but the right decision.
00:04:28.380 Four American presidents had faced that decision, but I was determined not to leave it to the
00:04:33.480 fifth.
00:04:34.820 It was a decision accompanied by tragedy.
00:04:38.060 Thirteen brave Americans lost their lives, along with hundreds of Afghans in a suicide bomb.
00:04:43.260 I think those lost lives, and I think of them every day.
00:04:47.680 I think of all the 2,461 U.S. military deaths over a long 20 years of that war.
00:04:55.060 20,744 American servicemen wounded in action.
00:04:59.700 I think of their service, their sacrifice, and their heroism.
00:05:03.960 I know other countries lost their own men and women fighting alongside us.
00:05:07.760 We honor their sacrifices as well.
00:05:09.840 So, there's two things there.
00:05:14.060 There's no, nobody believes that he thinks about them every day, because nobody really
00:05:17.660 knows what Joe Biden believes.
00:05:19.680 He definitely doesn't, because he wouldn't have done it that way.
00:05:21.860 And there's also no disputing, Tony, that it was the right move to pull out of Afghanistan,
00:05:26.340 right?
00:05:26.600 But not the way he went about doing it so fast, so rapidly.
00:05:31.100 Your thoughts on it, on Biden's comments and the overall withdrawal?
00:05:35.140 Yeah, first off, it's embarrassing to have him speak pigeon English that people can barely
00:05:39.000 understand.
00:05:39.780 It's just not a good look.
00:05:41.440 And when you actually listen to the word, it's like he doesn't really speak to anything
00:05:47.700 relating to the reality in which we live.
00:05:50.760 He does not think of the men and women every day.
00:05:53.140 It's just not, he doesn't.
00:05:54.200 He's not that kind of guy.
00:05:55.480 He's not a Ronald Reagan.
00:05:56.840 He has no core beliefs.
00:05:58.640 He's essentially a straw man that's been created to function as he is, a guy who actually is
00:06:07.460 the pastor for Democrat policies, which I think are really Barack Obama's policies given to
00:06:12.940 him by Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice.
00:06:16.380 And so that's the first thing.
00:06:18.800 Second factor, as you said, I worked with Mike Pompeo on the Afghan withdrawal plan.
00:06:25.240 Mike and I did not always agree on a lot of points.
00:06:27.400 Mike, honestly, the last conversation that Mike Pompeo and I had, we were yelling at each
00:06:32.160 other because we disagreed on certain points.
00:06:33.860 With that said, the plan that Mike Pompeo had put together with President Trump was a
00:06:41.360 reconciliation of the Taliban with the Afghan official government.
00:06:45.800 That is the idea.
00:06:46.660 That was it.
00:06:47.280 The trend, a reconciliation.
00:06:49.500 Right.
00:06:49.720 What Biden did was an abandonment.
00:06:51.640 He didn't reconcile anything, so he abandoned the plan, didn't actually work to see the
00:06:58.280 conditions-based re-insinuation of both organizations together, which was a fundamental failure.
00:07:03.240 The moment you abandon that point, you've lost the plan.
00:07:07.520 Right.
00:07:07.700 And therefore, the tragedy and failure was inevitable.
00:07:11.840 And oh, by the way, the person who was last in the room with Joe Biden by her own accord,
00:07:18.100 reinforced several times by public statements, was Kamala Harris.
00:07:21.700 So apparently, one Kamala Harris was just fine with putting her stamp on the failure that
00:07:28.120 became the low watermark that has stayed with the Biden White House ever since.
00:07:33.740 They've always been under underwater regarding approval numbers ever since that event.
00:07:38.300 Yep.
00:07:38.800 Yeah.
00:07:39.080 And you know what?
00:07:39.640 It's funny.
00:07:40.260 We were talking before the show.
00:07:41.380 They actually had to do a poll on it to see who was responsible.
00:07:44.840 Well, 49% of Americans believe she was very or somewhat responsible for the departure of
00:07:50.540 Afghanistan.
00:07:51.780 I mean, that makes absolutely no sense.
00:07:53.680 49%.
00:07:54.160 What does that mean?
00:07:55.000 The 51% are living under a rock?
00:07:56.940 I mean, did not speak English.
00:07:59.260 Did they not understand her own words saying she was in the room?
00:08:03.320 The other thing I take issue with is they always, you know, make fun of Trump.
00:08:06.760 Oh, well, you negotiated with the Taliban.
00:08:08.480 They're terrorists.
00:08:09.360 He did.
00:08:09.840 Well, yeah.
00:08:10.400 Well, yeah.
00:08:10.920 Right.
00:08:11.560 He did because he wanted to get Americans out of there safely.
00:08:14.060 And he told the leader and he tells this story all the time.
00:08:16.740 He told the leader of the Taliban.
00:08:18.500 I think his name was Abdul is what Trump refers to him as.
00:08:21.600 You know, if one service member is touched, if one American is harmed as much as a scratch
00:08:27.660 is left on there.
00:08:28.300 And he showed him a picture of his house.
00:08:29.980 And he says, well, why'd you show me the picture of my own house?
00:08:32.280 And Trump says, you can put two and two together on what I'm going to do.
00:08:35.260 Exactly.
00:08:36.280 Right.
00:08:36.500 So they constantly prayed that Trump negotiated with terrorists.
00:08:39.580 OK, but they're the ones, Tony, who turned over billions of dollars of equipment to the
00:08:44.320 terrorist, the quote, terrorist.
00:08:46.000 They're the ones who gave them all of our arsenal.
00:08:48.320 They're the ones who let them take over Afghanistan.
00:08:51.080 So, I mean, what does that make any sense to you?
00:08:54.620 No, we left on the ground the fourth largest conventional army in the world.
00:08:59.820 Think about that.
00:09:00.440 We abandoned all that military gear that the Afghan, the Taliban have now sold and otherwise
00:09:06.260 provided to others.
00:09:07.940 And on that point, we invested over two trillion dollars of blood and treasure.
00:09:13.040 Think about that.
00:09:13.640 Two trillion dollars just to say, oh, yeah, the women that we invested in having them go
00:09:18.220 to school.
00:09:18.840 Yeah, no big deal.
00:09:19.420 We don't care.
00:09:20.260 Yeah.
00:09:20.500 All the investment we made in collective security to make sure that that Al Qaeda and the Taliban
00:09:25.760 could not actually regenerate.
00:09:28.940 Yeah.
00:09:29.180 We don't care.
00:09:29.840 We left them stronger than before.
00:09:31.380 And yet somehow we're supposed to believe that Trump's the bad guy here.
00:09:35.160 Let me say something else along this line.
00:09:37.380 Not only did Biden fund the Taliban, they were paying about three hundred dollars a month
00:09:43.580 up until recently.
00:09:45.240 Three hundred.
00:09:46.240 I'm sorry.
00:09:46.580 Three million dollars a month recent, you know, giving the Taliban money for for aid, which
00:09:52.300 is insane.
00:09:52.860 And then on top of that, he Biden approved upwards of 30 to 40 billion dollars to be released
00:10:00.560 to the greatest state sponsor of terror on the planet, Iran.
00:10:04.100 Yeah.
00:10:04.480 So I think that's not negotiating with terrorists.
00:10:07.620 That's that's fueling terrorism as far as I'm concerned.
00:10:11.360 So that's my.
00:10:12.280 Yeah, it's a complete it's a double standard.
00:10:14.840 I mean, these people talk out of both sides of their mouth.
00:10:16.760 But, you know, the promise, Tony, we have a media that is so corrupt and so complicit in
00:10:20.760 this garbage that these Democrats spew upon us, that the American people I mean, I'm trying
00:10:25.340 to give the American people who believe this stuff the benefit of the doubt because of
00:10:29.160 those people who tune into and it's not many.
00:10:31.100 I mean, it's in the low millions of two who tune into MSNBC, who tune into NBC, who tune
00:10:36.980 into CNN and all these radical, you know, leftist news organizations and online publications.
00:10:43.140 You know, it's unbelievable.
00:10:44.420 And Afghanistan ended the same way that it seems most of these ends.
00:10:48.400 The president or the leader gets on a plane with a shit ton of cash, never to be seen
00:10:53.900 again, never to be heard from again.
00:10:55.600 And pockets are lined.
00:10:57.780 And, you know, it's and it's it's not that we shouldn't say this, because when you have
00:11:02.640 people like Hunter Biden who are going over there, you know, lobbying in foreign countries,
00:11:07.840 and then you have his father over there making decisions like that, where people are getting
00:11:11.920 this money and then leaving the country, it makes you wonder who's really getting paid.
00:11:16.120 You know, who's getting kickbacks in this?
00:11:19.100 Who's part of the military industrial complex?
00:11:21.840 You know, who's on Lindsey Graham's list of senators who are military, military industrial
00:11:26.880 complex folks who reap their benefits and stoke the war?
00:11:30.960 I want to take a quick break here, Tony.
00:11:32.580 On the other side, as we pull out of Afghanistan, we're now sending more people over to the Middle
00:11:37.760 East to fight another senseless war that has nothing to do with America.
00:11:42.160 We're coming right back with Tony Schaefer.
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00:13:33.320 We're back with Tony Schaefer.
00:13:34.880 Tony, we spoke about Afghanistan.
00:13:37.780 The U.S. is now sending troops to the Middle East as the latest Israel, Hezbollah fighting
00:13:42.820 sparks an all-out war.
00:13:44.980 The Pentagon Press Secretary Major General Pat Ryder saying, quote, in light of increased tensions
00:13:49.600 in the Middle East and an outright abundance of caution, we are sending a small number.
00:13:53.900 They're not giving us a number because Americans don't have a right to know where we're sending
00:13:57.840 our children, our spouses, our brothers, our sisters, right?
00:14:01.840 A small number of additional U.S. military personnel forward to augment our forces that
00:14:06.380 are already in the region.
00:14:07.500 Now it's estimated about 40,000 are already in the region.
00:14:10.500 Why are we sending more people to the Middle East, Tony?
00:14:13.500 Well, they're not really clear on this, but I can tell you, based on just recent reports,
00:14:19.440 the Truman Carrier Battle Group steamed out of Norfolk just yesterday.
00:14:24.220 Today, we're talking Tuesday.
00:14:25.800 It was yesterday, Monday.
00:14:27.320 And in that regard, I think they're sending out more special operations troops.
00:14:31.260 And by the way, this circles back, if I can use that term loosely, to Kamala Harris,
00:14:35.620 because Kamala Harris said in the debate with President Trump that we have no forces deployed.
00:14:40.720 Well, gee, I think Pat Ryder just said we're deploying, folks.
00:14:44.080 And right now, at the moment, at the time we're speaking, we have military personnel in four
00:14:50.320 different combat zones.
00:14:51.500 They are considered combat zones because there are daily-
00:14:53.400 Tony, real quick, when was the last time we had people deploy?
00:14:55.840 When was the last time we deployed people?
00:14:59.140 Well, we deployed people all the time.
00:15:00.760 I mean-
00:15:01.000 I'm saying there's something like this to handle a conflict.
00:15:03.780 Oh, so, well, the last time we had a major deployment for a war, per se, was Syria.
00:15:12.180 We actually deployed those forces into Syria to augment what we had done regarding Iraq.
00:15:17.300 Remember, the Iraq issue, you know, my friend, General Joe Dunford, the chairman of the Joint
00:15:21.680 Chiefs, under President Trump, by the way, in 2017, used the buy, with, and through strategy
00:15:27.920 to effectively eliminate ISIS.
00:15:30.600 And then to follow that up, we had to go into Syria.
00:15:32.420 That was the last major divide.
00:15:33.660 Oh, by the way, Dunford wanted our forces out of Syria.
00:15:37.940 Trump wanted our forces out of Syria because we had done our job, but they're still there
00:15:42.580 because, you know, reason.
00:15:43.920 So that's part of the problem with the deep state.
00:15:46.400 They tend to do what they want, no matter what they're told to do.
00:15:48.940 And that's one of the things we're witnessing right now.
00:15:51.480 You know that we were talking, like I said before, and it's interesting to me, like you
00:15:55.960 look at Ukraine and Russia.
00:15:57.860 It's a war that Russia, I think most of us expected.
00:16:00.760 We spoke to people, Lou and I, after the first invasion of Ukraine, we expected it was going
00:16:06.220 to last days, maybe a week, maybe a month.
00:16:08.420 Now we're years long into it.
00:16:10.420 You have the IDF chief of staff saying they will not give Hezbollah a break from the attacks.
00:16:16.200 October 7th, or coming up on a year now, the attacks on Israel.
00:16:20.880 Most of us, I thought the same thing that we thought in Ukraine, that Israel would go
00:16:27.460 into Gaza, they would clean it out, they would take care of it.
00:16:30.180 Not the case now, coming up on a year.
00:16:32.920 They're still there.
00:16:33.840 They still haven't finished the job like they said they were going to do.
00:16:38.280 Now they're going into Lebanon.
00:16:40.900 I mean, what is the IDF's plan here that, you know, they can't seem to finish the job in
00:16:45.760 Gaza, now they've got their eyes on another target, probably looking to America now for
00:16:51.700 more money, and we'll go ahead and send it.
00:16:54.400 But what's their plan?
00:16:56.740 Oh, the common denominator of both plans is the Biden administration.
00:17:00.580 Look, Zelensky and company had a chance to end the Russia war early on, within the first
00:17:06.960 year, through a negotiated process, which President Trump will pick back up and do.
00:17:10.700 Same with Israel.
00:17:12.420 The Israelis have been held back.
00:17:13.800 I don't care how you feel about Israel-Palestine.
00:17:17.020 The Israelis could have finished dealing with the Gaza Strip long ago, and they've been held
00:17:21.780 back by the Biden administration over and over, both politically and militarily.
00:17:25.480 So that's a political choice.
00:17:27.860 And unfortunately, I think the Israelis, and I've said this publicly, they should ignore
00:17:31.720 what they're told by the Biden administration.
00:17:34.200 Just go be done with it.
00:17:35.160 Just be done with it.
00:17:35.980 Go win.
00:17:37.200 If you don't do that, you're going to be drawn into this endless war, which is what we're
00:17:42.920 seeing, and it just extenuates the pain and suffering of everybody, both sides.
00:17:48.400 So I'm fundamentally anti-war, believe it or not.
00:17:52.920 And the idea here that we've engaged in a long, protracted war in Ukraine, which essentially
00:17:58.760 has become a profit center.
00:18:00.180 Let me add something to the conversation regarding why we're spending the money.
00:18:04.020 You'll remember this.
00:18:06.440 A guy named Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX.
00:18:10.560 FTX and the Democrats and the military-industrial complex all concluded to have Sam Bankman-Fried,
00:18:17.300 who is now in federal prison.
00:18:19.040 Yeah.
00:18:19.380 There's a clue.
00:18:20.720 For money laundering.
00:18:21.960 Well, there is a clue.
00:18:23.340 Why do you think they encourage SBF, Sam Bankman-Fried, to be the bank of choice by Ukraine?
00:18:28.500 Because that money we send over there is distributed back to certain corrupt individuals.
00:18:34.120 And that's why you see these things extended out.
00:18:36.680 It's not about winning anymore.
00:18:38.060 It's about how much money can certain corporations and certain party leaders make.
00:18:43.060 And it's a sad situation.
00:18:44.960 I want to turn to Ukraine in just a moment.
00:18:46.700 But you mentioned Iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism across this world,
00:18:52.840 wanting to wreak havoc on everyone.
00:18:55.080 The truth of the matter is, and there's no other way to put this, is Iran wants America wiped off the face of the earth.
00:19:00.660 It will solve all of their issues because then they'll be able to reign free as terrorists.
00:19:04.980 They'll be able to get their nuclear weapons that we've paid for, that we let them get, right,
00:19:09.280 under the Obama administration and now the Biden administration going so laxedainy on everything.
00:19:14.820 What role are they playing on this?
00:19:16.420 But they've got to be a little nervous because just this week,
00:19:20.080 the IRGC banned all communications devices on their people because the Israelis launched,
00:19:26.240 I think, one of the most coordinated strategic attacks I've seen, I think, maybe in my lifetime.
00:19:31.140 I've only been around for a little bit, but maybe in my lifetime with the explosion of all the beepers
00:19:36.060 and then the next day walkie-talkies.
00:19:38.260 What role does Iran play in all this?
00:19:40.780 We obviously know their proxies.
00:19:42.260 But how big is their role?
00:19:46.260 Well, it's significant.
00:19:47.320 And what you're referring to is what we call an information operation.
00:19:51.040 It's traditional.
00:19:52.400 Believe it or not, it's really traditional.
00:19:53.560 We've been looking at this since the 90s.
00:19:55.420 But the scope and precision of the attack was something as significant by the Israelis.
00:20:00.260 It's weaponized technology.
00:20:01.960 And anyone with a bunch of bright folks can figure out how technology works.
00:20:08.320 Technology is ambivalent to the user.
00:20:10.000 So it's not good or bad.
00:20:11.160 It just is.
00:20:12.820 And the Israelis figured out the vulnerabilities and used those vulnerabilities.
00:20:16.380 Well, that's what the Iranians are now afraid of.
00:20:18.620 The Iranians now recognize that, gee, they don't live in a vacuum.
00:20:23.020 They use Western technology like every other major country.
00:20:26.400 And now they're scared.
00:20:28.060 And oh, by the way, the use of technology started before the beeper attack.
00:20:32.580 There was an attack.
00:20:33.520 There was a murder of the Hamas leader in Tehran, incidental to the inauguration of the new president a couple months ago.
00:20:41.520 Well, that was done apparently with a computer.
00:20:43.740 So everybody's on edge right now about, gee, is that phone going to blow up if you talk into it?
00:20:48.680 I think it's a good thing that they're putting that kind of terror, if I can use that word, in the hearts of those individuals who are terrorists.
00:20:55.580 Right. I've been saying this on the show often for anyone who's seen the movie Law Abiding Citizen with Gerard Butler.
00:21:01.580 He sits in a prison cell and blows up everything from a prison cell.
00:21:04.720 It's sort of like we're living in a movie right now with what's going on.
00:21:08.580 I mean, I wake up in the morning and I read my three, four hours of news, go through the Daily Mail, the New York Post, Breitbart, the Gateway Post.
00:21:16.100 And after one story, after the next, it's like, what the hell?
00:21:21.720 Just when you think it can't get any crazier, it does.
00:21:24.640 Because speaking of crazy, Zelensky, the greatest fundraiser or swindler, if you want to call him that, of all time, also in America this week, flown over on an American C-17, costing taxpayers, I don't know, you put the estimate of over a million bucks to fly him over here.
00:21:41.620 Bringing up a very important point, taking that C-17 out of our arsenal of planes overseas.
00:21:47.320 But he's over in America to present us with a victory plan.
00:21:51.500 Now, years later, he finally has a victory plan on how he's going to beat Vladimir Putin.
00:21:56.900 What's taking Zelensky so long?
00:21:59.460 Well, because it's a bogus plan.
00:22:02.420 Because it's like we join NATO and NATO invades.
00:22:05.540 That's the plan.
00:22:06.580 It's like, it's crazy.
00:22:08.340 It's like nobody who's a rational human being who understands even a quarter of what a necessary strategy is like, no, that's the victory plan.
00:22:18.900 It's like they goad us into war.
00:22:20.520 We are his victory plan.
00:22:22.480 That's the issue.
00:22:23.400 So I'm just saying that's how bad it is.
00:22:26.100 And, yeah, look, you could have put him on a little C-12, C-17.
00:22:30.580 You know, C-17s are a limited asset.
00:22:33.400 It's very expensive to run those things because they're hardened, because they're made for combat situations.
00:22:39.700 It's the most expensive plane you could have put him on.
00:22:41.660 It was done for show.
00:22:42.460 And, oh, by the way, they sent him to Pennsylvania, where it's a swing state.
00:22:47.900 You have the governor.
00:22:49.040 You have the Biden folks all there.
00:22:52.480 That was a political commercial that we, the taxpayer, paid for.
00:22:56.280 And it's unconscionable.
00:22:57.680 Yeah, I got a better idea, Tony.
00:22:59.120 Instead of sending him, why don't we send him?
00:23:00.540 I would have been OK with America paying for his first, we'll even call it first class, plane ticket on American Airlines or something like that.
00:23:07.260 I mean, we got 300-something people on that plane, you know, I think he'd probably be pretty safe if we flew him out of, you know, somewhere in Europe over to America.
00:23:15.400 Right.
00:23:15.620 It had to be showboated.
00:23:18.000 It had to be put on a C-17, like you said, a campaign event.
00:23:21.680 But not only did he come over here and parade and, you know, gallivant and do all the stuff he does, but he's actually attacking J.D. Vance.
00:23:29.760 I think calling him extreme.
00:23:31.100 You know, President Trump was in a grocery store the other day and handed a lady $100 for groceries.
00:23:38.540 And I see people.
00:23:39.160 He does that stuff, yeah.
00:23:40.080 Yeah, all the time.
00:23:41.000 I mean, I know a guy who used to work on a side story at LaGuardia Airport before President Trump came, became president when he parked his plane there.
00:23:48.360 And my buddy used to fuel up his plane and do all that stuff over his shelter at LaGuardia.
00:23:52.260 And he said every single time Trump came in, Trump would meet every single person who was on the ground crew, go into his pocket, pull out $100.
00:24:00.540 Everyone got $100.
00:24:01.720 Everyone got $100.
00:24:02.400 I've seen it with my own eyes, him tipping.
00:24:05.020 So it's not out of the ordinary for President Trump.
00:24:06.900 And they're saying, oh, that's an FEC violation.
00:24:09.720 You can't pay for voters.
00:24:10.840 Well, what is Joe Biden doing with his student loan forgiveness?
00:24:13.240 Exactly.
00:24:14.040 What are you doing with bringing Zelensky over here to bash J.D. Vance?
00:24:19.360 I mean, how do Democrats get away with this stuff, Tony?
00:24:22.720 Well, it's because, first off, they don't understand the idea of just being nice.
00:24:27.380 There's another story.
00:24:28.480 I was prohibited.
00:24:29.000 I was the Trump 2020 National Security Advisor, and I was prohibited from telling a story about when he and Hillary were at the 9-11 Museum.
00:24:36.400 And basically, Hillary was there for like 10 minutes and felt, you know, the Scooby van.
00:24:40.560 You saw them sticking her in a Scooby van.
00:24:43.120 He was there for an hour and a half.
00:24:44.880 He walked around.
00:24:45.600 At the end of his tour, he got his checkbook out and wrote a million dollars to the museum, said, don't tell anybody.
00:24:51.940 So I'm just telling the story because I think I'm sorry, you know, but Trump does that.
00:24:57.120 It's just him.
00:24:58.300 And so the idea here that he can't be a nice guy is stupid.
00:25:01.160 And at the same time, you have people who literally should be, you know, it was a massive violation of the of the federal election campaign process, as well as the Hatch Act.
00:25:13.040 And yet nothing's going to happen because unless Trump gets in, which I would hope he would do something.
00:25:18.260 But the Democrats never hold themselves accountable.
00:25:20.660 It's not possible.
00:25:21.780 I asked somebody this question the other day.
00:25:23.400 Do you think we're going to see at some point Zelensky get on a plane at the end of this war with his?
00:25:30.380 Well, we don't know how much money he really has that he's gotten from this whole organization.
00:25:34.540 But do you think we're going to see Zelensky get on a plane at one point in this war and never hear from him again?
00:25:39.500 Oh, sooner than later.
00:25:40.340 Yeah.
00:25:40.540 Look, despite despite what everybody keeps saying about the Ukraine winning, they're not there.
00:25:45.420 They're surrounded in Kursk.
00:25:47.060 That Kursk pocket is another place they're losing badly.
00:25:49.700 And everybody says they're winning.
00:25:50.940 They're not.
00:25:51.300 But the Donbass is about to fall because of the troops they took out of the Donbass to do Kursk.
00:25:57.040 Russians are gaining ground.
00:25:58.760 Look, I think by by the only thing, the only reason we're not hearing about this is because the mainstream media is hiding what's actually going on.
00:26:05.580 So this is like a Hail Mary.
00:26:08.020 Him coming here and pretending everything's good is a Hail Mary trying to get Harris back in there to keep that gravy train going.
00:26:13.820 Because, again, he's calling Vance an extremist because Vance is going to push the idea of a peaceful, a peaceful and well, a negotiated end of this, of the war.
00:26:24.700 And that's what Zelensky does not want, because the gravy train stops if that's the case.
00:26:29.800 Tony, I want to take one more quick break here.
00:26:31.280 We come back.
00:26:31.880 I want to talk about these endless wars.
00:26:34.500 You were very critical.
00:26:35.640 And during the times of 9-11 coming out and speaking out.
00:26:39.460 And, of course, we're rebuffed by the deep state.
00:26:41.920 Speaking of the deep state, 700 deep state members are backing Kamala Harris.
00:26:46.280 Most of those 51 Intel chiefs who said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
00:26:51.480 We're going to take a quick break here.
00:26:52.720 We're coming back with Tony Schaefer.
00:26:53.940 Stay with us.
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00:28:00.400 We're back.
00:28:03.580 We're talking with Tony Schaefer.
00:28:04.900 Tony, I said before we went to break there, you played a big role in 9-11.
00:28:09.200 You were in the military around that time.
00:28:11.760 You take an issue with some things that happened in 9-11.
00:28:14.360 Before we started the show, I told you my father's brother, my uncle, passed away this week from 9-11-related injuries.
00:28:20.600 He had a brain tumor, was on the ground 9-11 day one, spent every single day thereafter at the dump, sifting through, trying to find remains of people who lost their lives on that day.
00:28:37.120 Now, 23 years later, Tony, we still don't know a lot of really what went on that day, what led up to it.
00:28:43.560 What we do know is that we invaded Iraq after that for weapons that we now know or we probably knew back then didn't really exist.
00:28:52.660 You were crucial in a moment, and you got a lot of blowback from it, for an operation called Able Danger.
00:28:58.100 Can you tell the audience what you knew back then and what you tried to bring to light that they rebuffed you and came after you personally for?
00:29:06.260 Yeah, so you mentioned the Israeli op against Iran.
00:29:13.600 Well, we were looking at doing similar things to al-Qaeda.
00:29:16.940 Able Danger was an operation to map, be prepared to kill al-Qaeda.
00:29:22.160 That's it.
00:29:22.560 It was created by General Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
00:29:26.500 It was given to General Pete Schoomaker, the commander of Special Operations Command, and a bunch of us Woods kids, and I was a lot younger back then, were told to figure out a way to globally map al-Qaeda and then be ready to go kill it.
00:29:38.900 That's it.
00:29:39.600 It was especially, you know, again, to do to al-Qaeda what the Iranians did to Hezbollah, just like that.
00:29:48.940 I mean, just many of the same concepts.
00:29:51.660 And so that was what was controversial.
00:29:53.480 It started in 1999, two years before 9-11.
00:29:57.300 And then we were doing it outside.
00:29:59.340 It was a black operation.
00:30:00.520 Nobody knew we were doing it.
00:30:02.400 And so I've been told that when I came forward and told the 9-11 commission, Phil Zelikow, the staff director, when I was undercover in Afghanistan in 2003, they were shocked because they had not been told of it.
00:30:15.020 And so the next thing you know, I'm being a whistleblower inadvertently, talking about the fact that, yeah, we mapped out al-Qaeda before 9-11, and we were prepared to kill them.
00:30:25.200 And that became the controversy, how much information we actually did have.
00:30:29.500 And if you remember, the government knew a great deal about the 9-11 hijackers within 24 hours.
00:30:34.820 They had all the information.
00:30:36.540 And so does people ever wonder how they did that?
00:30:39.540 Well, the answer is because we knew about these guys.
00:30:42.580 And that's become a controversial point, too.
00:30:45.800 Well, how did we know?
00:30:46.940 And why did we know?
00:30:47.820 Well, we knew because we were studying these guys.
00:30:50.620 And at least in our case, we had concepts to use specific special mission units to go literally kill them.
00:30:57.820 And that's what's controversial.
00:30:59.300 It's why in January of 2001, after briefing Hugh Shelton, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Bush administration said, yeah, never mind.
00:31:07.260 We're not going to do anything.
00:31:08.540 That's a big issue.
00:31:09.880 It's not been resolved.
00:31:10.700 Correct me if I'm wrong, but you had mapped out that there were some of these people in America already at that time.
00:31:18.900 Absolutely.
00:31:20.460 So, yeah.
00:31:21.280 So we actually were told because they were here legally, which we disputed, a Navy lawyer was told to tell us we can't look at them.
00:31:30.140 So we had to put stickies over the faces of those we had confirmed who were here.
00:31:34.100 We identified two of the three cells of the 9-11 attack in our run.
00:31:39.080 And we were told, you can't look at that.
00:31:41.120 Now, think about that.
00:31:42.340 Who does that?
00:31:43.100 Well, we were fighting it.
00:31:44.260 And we kept trying to pass that information to the FBI because it's like, OK, if we can't look at it, we're going to give it to the FBI because they should know.
00:31:52.100 We were we were stopped by lawyers.
00:31:54.620 Lawyers stop the meetings every time.
00:31:57.300 Louis Free, the director of the FBI before Mueller, which I would argue that Free was an honest guy.
00:32:04.420 Mueller was not.
00:32:05.680 But Mueller actually stopped the FBI from testifying to the information I just provided you.
00:32:09.640 So we we were Mueller, Mueller, I'm sorry, Free said, had he gotten the able danger information, he said this in a Wall Street Journal editorial in November 2005, he said if he'd gotten the information, he could have stopped the 9-11 attacks.
00:32:27.200 He said that, not me.
00:32:28.380 Why wouldn't the U.S. government want to?
00:32:29.960 I mean, well, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, Tony, but since I say this on every single show that I talk about this with people since 2015.
00:32:38.560 I think a lot of before 2015, a lot of us trusted the government, right?
00:32:42.760 2015 is when they spied on President Trump's campaign.
00:32:45.940 Now you fast forward.
00:32:47.080 They went after him his whole entire administration.
00:32:49.680 Now you go deeper into it and you go to this whole COVID thing where the government told us we had to stand six feet.
00:32:54.700 We now find out that Fauci just took out a rule.
00:32:57.820 You know, it seems like a good good distance for me.
00:33:00.880 So nobody was questioning this before.
00:33:02.760 And there's only people like you and I and other people who are independent journalists who want answers.
00:33:08.020 You can't talk about this on Fox News.
00:33:09.980 You can't talk about it on mainstream media.
00:33:11.860 No, I got in trouble kind of hitting this stuff on Fox News.
00:33:14.220 Right, because everyone's worried about sponsors and advertising.
00:33:18.060 Well, guess what?
00:33:18.500 Let them go to hell.
00:33:19.500 Because you know what?
00:33:20.340 It's more important to get the truth out, Tony, than putting a few extra dollars in your pocket for the American people.
00:33:25.300 And what about those 3,000 people?
00:33:26.640 I'm from New York, Tony.
00:33:27.540 I lost, like I said, over the weekend, my uncle.
00:33:30.440 I'm sorry for your loss.
00:33:31.580 I appreciate it.
00:33:32.720 But I went to school with kids who came to school the following week who didn't have fathers, right, who didn't have mothers who were in that building.
00:33:41.060 One of my good friends lost his father, a firefighter on 9-11.
00:33:44.840 What about those 3,000 people?
00:33:46.460 You know, everyone looks at it at a macro scale.
00:33:48.640 There's millions of people here.
00:33:50.760 There's, you know, hundreds of millions of Americans.
00:33:52.800 What's 3,000?
00:33:54.060 And I don't think we really started to question what goes on in this country until we saw, we had mentioned before to you, Russ Tice come out and blow the whistle on the Patriot Act, spying on Americans, things like that, spying on President Trump's campaign.
00:34:08.940 Why now, 23 years later, are people still not skeptical of who killed JFK?
00:34:14.740 You know, why are Americans not waking up to what's going on in this country and what's been going on for the last 23 years?
00:34:21.440 I mean, even before then, dating back to, like I said, who killed JFK?
00:34:26.040 Yeah.
00:34:26.420 Look, my friend Jerry Corsi did an extraordinarily detailed book on this.
00:34:30.100 You know, it was the government.
00:34:31.320 CIA and others were conspired.
00:34:33.060 And so we have to accept at this point that the history that we've been given is not the history that exists regarding the factual events.
00:34:42.100 And I think it's all about a narrative.
00:34:43.580 And I think we've discovered that, especially if you just look at the last four years, three years.
00:34:47.100 Somehow we're supposed to believe that the Biden administration is the kindlest, gentlest, most, you know, wonderful administration.
00:34:56.340 And Kamala Harris is the heir apparent.
00:34:58.260 We all know the prices are high.
00:35:00.340 The economy is horrible.
00:35:01.900 The Biden administration has created wars.
00:35:04.960 It's all something that we have to recognize that we're not being told the truth.
00:35:09.300 And I think it goes back to at least Kennedy, maybe before that.
00:35:13.280 It could go back to Roswell, as far as I'm concerned, 1947.
00:35:16.260 But we have to recognize that the seeking of truth is not a bad thing.
00:35:20.760 It's a good thing.
00:35:21.460 And oh, by the way, apparently Hillary Clinton thinks that we shouldn't be permitted to do that because apparently, you know, we might look or say something out there in the public that she doesn't like and we should be put in jail.
00:35:32.360 That's who they are.
00:35:33.140 They're like that.
00:35:33.780 That's the deep state.
00:35:35.860 Speaking of, I mean, Seth Rich was a was a big topic many years ago.
00:35:40.620 DNC staffer who was assassinated shot in the back of his head.
00:35:44.020 And Lou spoke about it on Fox News.
00:35:45.980 Sean Hannity spoke about it on Fox News.
00:35:47.420 They got sued by the family.
00:35:48.860 And all they wanted was answers, Tony.
00:35:51.140 They put out what's being reported.
00:35:54.620 And it doesn't take a detective or a brain surgeon to realize when someone gets shot in the middle of a park in the middle of the night and something as small as his cheap wristwatch or a dollar missing from his pocket was not missing.
00:36:07.120 And then you have all these things surrounding a really good lawyer.
00:36:10.700 Ty Clevenger has FOIA'd the FBI for Seth.
00:36:13.500 I know, I've talked to him.
00:36:14.820 Yeah, I know.
00:36:15.120 He's a great guy.
00:36:15.920 He's my attorney.
00:36:17.120 A really good guy.
00:36:18.560 And, you know, FOIA is the FBI.
00:36:21.420 The FBI says they're in possession of this laptop.
00:36:23.540 Judge says, turn over that laptop to Ty.
00:36:26.620 FBI says, oh, you know, we can't right now.
00:36:28.480 Well, the judge says, well, turn it over.
00:36:29.940 Still now, I think it's going on over a year.
00:36:31.960 They still haven't turned over the laptop.
00:36:33.340 They've confirmed they had the laptop.
00:36:34.500 Then they say they don't have the laptop, but they have the contents of the laptop.
00:36:37.600 Well, where is the laptop?
00:36:39.100 Ty has said to me many times after Seth was killed, his brother flew in from, I think, somewhere out in the Midwest, took the laptop and flew it back out with him.
00:36:47.900 I mean, there's things like that just don't make sense.
00:36:50.460 And you have a family who is more worried about getting money from Fox News than worrying about who killed their son.
00:36:57.400 Now, I don't know if that's on them or if that's on someone who's in their ear saying, you better do this or this is going to happen to you.
00:37:02.740 You know, I'm not going to hold them accountable for it, but it just makes you wonder.
00:37:07.640 We now have Tony, speaking of the deep state, 741 former Intel members, deep staters, we'll call them.
00:37:15.520 Among them, Alex Vindman, the famous Ukraine whistleblower who was on the phone call with President Trump.
00:37:21.160 The perfect phone call where they say, you know, he pressured Zelensky into doing this or that.
00:37:26.540 Zelensky coming out saying that's not true.
00:37:28.020 He did not do that.
00:37:29.460 Whatever.
00:37:29.920 He wound up getting impeached over it.
00:37:31.300 Just added on the list of I call them medals because they're medals for President Trump.
00:37:36.080 It means that he's doing something right that they went after him.
00:37:38.100 But now we have 741 deep state members backing Harris.
00:37:42.300 She went out there parading.
00:37:43.760 She's got all these former Republicans.
00:37:45.300 Oh, Adam Kinzinger.
00:37:46.780 I hate to break it to her, but I don't think anyone I don't think the devil would want Dick Cheney's endorsement.
00:37:52.620 Tony.
00:37:54.620 Yeah.
00:37:55.300 Go ahead.
00:37:56.720 No, the first point is like he was literally their devil.
00:38:00.220 And yeah, like now it's like all of a sudden.
00:38:02.260 No, no, no.
00:38:02.680 There he's good.
00:38:03.600 He's a war criminal.
00:38:04.460 Which he is.
00:38:05.080 Yeah.
00:38:05.780 Yeah.
00:38:05.980 So now it's like, oh, no, no.
00:38:07.320 He's ours now.
00:38:08.040 So it's fine.
00:38:09.060 It just shows who they are.
00:38:10.240 They have no moral center.
00:38:12.000 And I'll just say this and be clear.
00:38:14.440 I'm a Reagan Republican.
00:38:15.880 I hate neocons.
00:38:17.460 Farewell, neocons.
00:38:18.860 You're welcome to go.
00:38:20.040 Go and go with Satan, which is probably your choice.
00:38:23.580 Just saying.
00:38:24.360 But the loss of Liz Cheney, the loss of Dick Cheney, you know, just go.
00:38:29.360 And then Vindman.
00:38:30.100 Vindman was always a criminal.
00:38:32.280 That guy, he, you know, basically he was part of the Eric Chickamonga thing or whatever that guy is.
00:38:39.280 Caramella, whatever that guy.
00:38:41.320 Chickarella.
00:38:42.000 And then so they're that's good.
00:38:44.020 And then I know some of these people personally.
00:38:45.620 I know Martha Duncan.
00:38:46.740 I'm ashamed.
00:38:47.340 I'm ashamed of knowing her.
00:38:48.880 Dick, Dick, Dick, you know, Dick, not Dick.
00:38:54.020 Clapper.
00:38:55.020 Jim Clapper.
00:38:55.820 Jim Clapper.
00:38:56.560 Jim Clapper makes chimpanzees look smart because that guy is a political animal.
00:39:01.160 And so they are literally connective tissue who have probably been a drain on our resources.
00:39:09.260 And they like you said, they've shown who they are.
00:39:11.880 They're part of the deep stake.
00:39:12.720 I can't think of the NGO, but there was an NGO Lou had me look into one day.
00:39:16.480 And he said, I want you to look into this.
00:39:18.440 And Lou was always most journalists are at 10,000 feet.
00:39:22.280 Lou was at 30,000 feet.
00:39:24.420 A hundred percent of the time.
00:39:25.640 He was always ahead of the curve on everybody for everything.
00:39:29.320 And he had me look into this organization.
00:39:30.840 Now, it's slipping my mind.
00:39:31.620 It was about a year ago.
00:39:33.000 And he said, I want you to look into this.
00:39:34.120 And I want you to see how many of these intel chiefs sit on this board.
00:39:37.780 And, Tony, it was a ridiculous amount.
00:39:40.380 And it's.
00:39:40.620 Oh, I'm sure.
00:39:41.400 And it's just.
00:39:43.060 It's such a simple thing for journalists to go ahead and do.
00:39:46.220 And you put the puzzle pieces together.
00:39:48.460 That's what we do as journalists, Tony.
00:39:50.020 We don't just take people's word for it.
00:39:51.500 We take the information.
00:39:52.660 We dissect it.
00:39:53.420 We figure out what's real, what's not.
00:39:55.280 But then you got John Brennan and Michael Hayden out there on CNN and MSNBC.
00:40:01.800 These guys still have the best of my knowledge, still have security clearances.
00:40:05.640 I love President Trump to death.
00:40:07.400 I think everything he did in ninety nine percent of what he did in his first term was the greatest thing this country's ever seen.
00:40:14.420 The one percent issue I have with President Trump is that he didn't hold enough of these people.
00:40:18.840 And we were talking.
00:40:20.380 I've had this conversation with the senior staff.
00:40:22.440 His problem is and people who don't know President Trump don't realize this.
00:40:25.920 He's too nice of a guy, Tony.
00:40:28.060 After 2016, he could have went after Hillary Clinton.
00:40:30.240 And you know what?
00:40:30.940 He took the high road and it's backfired on now because they're coming after him.
00:40:34.660 But he took the high road and said, you know, let's just move on as a country.
00:40:37.500 Let's heal.
00:40:38.040 It was a very divisive 2016 election.
00:40:41.180 Let's move on.
00:40:42.000 Let's move forward.
00:40:43.220 But these people are criminals.
00:40:44.560 John Brennan, the Michael Haydens of the world.
00:40:46.880 They're they're criminals, Tony.
00:40:48.300 They still have their security clearances.
00:40:49.820 Do you think we'll see in a second Trump administration, hopefully come November 5th or a week after or two weeks after, three weeks after when we finally get our our president elect, he'll right those wrongs and go after these people.
00:41:04.280 The answer is, I hope so.
00:41:06.160 I I spoke with President Trump in the about two months ago at the Chesapeake, Virginia event.
00:41:12.880 And I don't want to go into what we spoke about, but it's along the lines of what we're talking about.
00:41:17.680 It's like, what do we do to actually go through and actually stop this nonsense?
00:41:22.540 Because these people are a cancer.
00:41:24.680 They will not go away.
00:41:25.820 They're part of the permanent bureaucracy or deep state.
00:41:28.200 And I think he's learned his lesson.
00:41:31.020 People like Rance Priebus, people like H.R.
00:41:34.580 McMaster, you know, John Bolton.
00:41:38.320 They were all part of that that permanent class that were never going to go along.
00:41:44.020 And they pretended because they wanted to be inside to have authority.
00:41:47.200 John Kelly.
00:41:47.780 I think John Kelly.
00:41:49.040 Look, John Kelly turned out to be a huge disappointment.
00:41:50.820 John once told me because I I recognized in 17 the Russia collusion narrative was false.
00:41:58.980 And so I went to John.
00:41:59.980 I said, look, I need to sit down with President Trump to get the army to do a peer review.
00:42:06.300 Army counterintelligence, do a peer review of FBI's foreign counterintelligence programs, you know, because we knew that it was corrupt, but we could do a review.
00:42:13.440 Right. And the Pentagon said, yeah, we'll do it.
00:42:15.660 Well, you've got to have the president tell us to do it.
00:42:17.420 And so I went to John Kelly, chief of staff, and I said, John, I need to talk to the president about this and get you.
00:42:23.180 John Kelly looked at me and I says, Tony, I will never let you see the president because all you're going to do is inflame his instincts.
00:42:30.420 All you're going to do is inflame his instincts.
00:42:32.860 You know, the reason I do think he's going to write that wrong is because a name we left out was Nikki Haley.
00:42:40.600 I mean, a total war hawk.
00:42:42.740 And he's completely distanced himself from her.
00:42:44.420 He didn't want her anywhere near him after the campaign, didn't care for her endorsement.
00:42:48.300 President Trump, there's no doubt he loves endorsements.
00:42:50.320 But I think he'd rather have an endorsement from a Democrat like we saw this mayor of that Muslim city in America endorsing President Trump because of all the righty than Nikki Haley.
00:42:59.240 I don't think he gives a damn.
00:43:00.380 So I think we are seeing a term.
00:43:01.740 But then when you hear the guys like maybe Kevin McCarthy being floated as the chief of staff, I look like the hair on the back of my neck stands up.
00:43:08.720 I'm like, here we go again.
00:43:10.520 It's starting all over again.
00:43:12.460 He's not even back in the White House.
00:43:13.880 The other issue that we had was it came to arise when the whole issue with John McCain and President Trump happened.
00:43:23.620 There's got to be a distinction.
00:43:24.920 And it was the same thing with John Kelly when Trump fired John Kelly.
00:43:27.460 Well, he was a military veteran.
00:43:29.400 He did this with the country.
00:43:30.260 You have to dissect the difference between a military career, Tony, and a political career.
00:43:36.360 Once you're in the military, you're a hero for doing what you did.
00:43:40.400 But once you get into politics, that's it.
00:43:41.920 I mean, that doesn't forgive you for every single thing you did.
00:43:45.080 It doesn't give you the right to go be a war hawk and send our troops overseas and send our kids overseas to fight endless wars.
00:43:52.580 Yeah.
00:43:53.560 Well, no, I know John McCain and John was a was a neocon and he was very dangerous.
00:43:58.280 I I once I did it.
00:44:00.800 I had to go with Bud McFarlane to Egypt on a on a delegation to look at and assess Al-Sisi and what was going on there.
00:44:08.420 And my I had a copy of my report.
00:44:11.920 And in the process of meeting with John to brief him on my report, he didn't like it and threw it at me because I was going.
00:44:20.700 No, I'm not joking.
00:44:22.380 That was John McCain.
00:44:23.480 If you if you said something, it was factually based because I was supporting the idea of Al-Sisi needed to move forward with with the way he wanted to do.
00:44:30.700 Oh, well, you know, he's not our guy.
00:44:32.760 No, the Muslim Brotherhood's not not not good guys.
00:44:35.220 John, you know, don't go with the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:44:37.740 And that was the big issue is that he was a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was stupid.
00:44:41.000 But anyway, I digress.
00:44:42.480 I'm just saying people like John McCain were part of the problem.
00:44:45.580 And and the idea that Trump called him out for being part of the problem was somehow anti-patriotic was insane.
00:44:52.740 It was completely insane.
00:44:54.260 Yep.
00:44:54.500 It's unbelievable.
00:44:55.120 I want to wrap up with this Trump assassination attempt.
00:44:58.240 Number two, we know everything about this guy over the weekend.
00:45:01.660 His son was arrested in North Carolina for allegedly possessing child pornography.
00:45:07.120 I don't it seems to be like the thing these days, these weird, these total weirdos.
00:45:11.640 It always relates back to children and it's terribly sad.
00:45:16.620 But we know everything about this guy.
00:45:18.860 We know his whereabouts, what was in his car, what was in his possession, you know, everything to his cell phone data.
00:45:24.580 But the first assassination attempt, which they shot the victim, the victim, the attempted shooter, Crooks, and cremated his body right away.
00:45:35.580 We know nothing about him.
00:45:36.980 Do you think there's something deeper to that of why we know so much about the second shooter?
00:45:40.400 They're overproducing evidence on this man.
00:45:42.680 But the first one, we know absolutely nothing about.
00:45:46.120 Haven't heard anything from his parents.
00:45:47.920 Granted, they're all lawyered up now.
00:45:49.160 But do you think it's weird?
00:45:51.160 Yeah.
00:45:51.280 So first off, they released the crime scene within days like you never release a crime scene.
00:45:56.700 You never, you know, cremated a body that has actual questions about his state of mind, where drugs may have been involved, especially since there's evidence he may have been on a psychotropic drug of some sort.
00:46:08.240 OK, well, you can't get samples now, can you?
00:46:10.760 So it's things like that, which are completely inappropriate and I would say illegal and it's not part of the process.
00:46:16.720 So it's typical of those when they want to get rid of something they did.
00:46:20.700 And oh, by the way, it's interesting that they had the crime scene.
00:46:25.300 They had people up there with Crooks like, look at his split.
00:46:29.060 Well, why is that?
00:46:29.720 Because I think they were trying to destroy evidence.
00:46:31.940 That's why.
00:46:32.580 I'm just saying.
00:46:33.500 Why would they want to destroy evidence, Tony?
00:46:35.920 Because I don't think he was a shooter, or at least he wasn't the only shooter.
00:46:38.920 I think they had to modify things to change the situation or the story they wanted to tell.
00:46:43.520 That's why.
00:46:43.960 And this goes back to seeing things over and over where they come up and they do things which are out of the ordinary or peculiar.
00:46:51.260 So people need to sit down and understand that any process which actually had transparency, we know everything by now.
00:46:58.140 Well, we don't because they don't want us to.
00:47:00.160 So we have to question what's going on.
00:47:02.660 Imagine that we have to question who's trying to kill the leading presidential candidate and, you know, probably next president of the United States.
00:47:11.760 And it's sort of become like a normal thing in this country.
00:47:15.320 Oh, guess what?
00:47:16.360 Trump was almost assassinated once again.
00:47:18.300 And I speak to Russ Tice off on the show, former NSA senior in Talanos and whistleblower.
00:47:23.660 And every time I bring him on and he had said this was going to happen two years ago, he said they were going to try and kill President Trump.
00:47:28.380 And that's how he first got in contact with Lou.
00:47:29.840 He said, you need to let President Trump know that they're coming for him.
00:47:32.900 This was two years ago.
00:47:33.740 I had Russ on after the first attempt and unfazed by it.
00:47:37.200 And I said, I understand, Russ.
00:47:38.620 You've seen a lot of crazy things in your life working in the deepest, deep state of the U.S. government, knowing what goes on.
00:47:44.820 Probably I don't know.
00:47:45.840 This is unconfirmed.
00:47:46.540 He's never told me this, but probably taking part in assassination attempts himself on behalf of the NSA.
00:47:54.240 Now we have a second one.
00:47:55.260 I bring him back on the show.
00:47:56.220 He's unfazed by it again.
00:47:57.100 And he goes, yeah, this is just the second one.
00:47:59.200 Then the third one's probably come.
00:48:00.480 This one might be able to.
00:48:01.260 I think it's everyone's coming, too.
00:48:02.420 I do.
00:48:02.800 Right.
00:48:03.020 And he says, you know, this may be his airplane.
00:48:05.000 This may be his motorcade.
00:48:06.140 And President Trump still seems unfazed by it, too.
00:48:08.760 But I think this is a real threat we have to worry about because, you know, like you said, I don't think these are lone actors.
00:48:14.540 I don't think they're, you know, even people working with friends.
00:48:18.460 I think they're working with a higher power and it could end catastrophically for President Trump.
00:48:23.340 I hope to God that I'm wrong.
00:48:25.300 But this is the new reality of what we're in.
00:48:27.700 Do you agree?
00:48:28.440 Yep.
00:48:29.820 Yeah.
00:48:30.200 It's truly sad.
00:48:31.440 Tony, where can people follow you?
00:48:32.820 Where can they follow your podcast and all that good stuff?
00:48:35.480 Yeah.
00:48:35.720 So truthwithtony.com is my hard truth to Tony Schaefer.
00:48:40.840 We're on the America Out Loud Network on weekends, on radio, on you can see it on Apple and iTunes as well.
00:48:46.540 And then Project Sentinel, Project Sentinel.com.
00:48:48.880 And, of course, on Twitter X.
00:48:50.200 I'm out there.
00:48:50.680 See Spooky.
00:48:51.500 Anyway, thanks for having me.
00:48:52.340 It's been a great conversation.
00:48:53.400 I look forward to talking to you again soon.
00:48:54.920 I appreciate it, Tony.
00:48:55.800 And thanks for all you're doing.
00:48:56.600 And thanks for trying to get the word out and alerting President Trump to all these outside threats that we face as a nation and he faces as a person.
00:49:04.300 Appreciate you, Tony.
00:49:05.340 Thank you.
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