The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1071 - Steven Crowder & NotGay Jared

00:00:00.000 The dragon's mouth and his thing.

00:00:01.000 Five, four, three, two, one.

00:00:08.000 Yes, and we're live.

00:00:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:00:09.000 Gentlemen.

00:00:10.000 Hello.

00:00:10.000 You still have the ability to go live.

00:00:11.000 That's nice. 1.00

00:00:12.000 Oh, yeah, you guys got fucked. 1.00

00:00:13.000 Who'd you get fucked by? 1.00

00:00:14.000 Mr. Rogers fucked you? 1.00

00:00:15.000 Yeah, Mr. Rogers. 0.99

00:00:16.000 It's funny, the people who go after the Bob Ross estate, and now Mr. Rogers.

00:00:19.000 Every moment over the age of 90's dream.

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:22.000 But this is what's confusing, most of what you guys do in terms of the Bob Ross thing in particular.

00:00:26.000 First of all, that was... 0.86

00:00:28.000 That took a lot of balls. 1.00

00:00:29.000 Thank you. 0.95

00:00:30.000 Because this is...

00:00:31.000 You had Bob Ross painting Muhammad, which is...

00:00:34.000 In Period Blood, the second one, because the Buzzfeed women were doing the painting. 1.00

00:00:38.000 It was YouTube.

00:00:38.000 This was actually after a meeting with YouTube.

00:00:41.000 Remember I said...

00:00:41.000 Never ask him how you can top something, because we'll...

00:00:44.000 Pull the sucker right up to you. 0.99

00:00:45.000 There you go. 0.99

00:00:46.000 You should know.

00:00:47.000 You're an SM7 in our studio.

00:00:48.000 I know.

00:00:50.000 I don't know.

00:00:51.000 So the Bob Ross estate got after you, but that's parody.

00:00:55.000 How can they get you in trouble for mocking something or doing parody?

00:00:59.000 Here's why.

00:01:00.000 You have a system with YouTube, right, where they just strike.

00:01:02.000 They just strike you, and you lose your privileges whether you win or not.

00:01:05.000 We've never lost.

00:01:06.000 So the Bob Ross estate sent us a message, right, and it was saying, like, first off, have you no decency?

00:01:11.000 You know this isn't in accordance with Islamic law. 0.74

00:01:13.000 Like, laughing our asses off.

00:01:15.000 Accordance with Islam? 0.99

00:01:15.000 Like, you're supposed to be in accordance with Islamic law when you're doing parody? 0.99

00:01:18.000 They thought that we didn't know That it was offensive?

00:01:20.000 Yeah, they thought we didn't know.

00:01:21.000 Like, we stumbled across this.

00:01:23.000 And so then...

00:01:24.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:01:25.000 We responded to the lawyers as Bob Ross.

00:01:30.000 Welcome back to the Joy of Painting. 1.00

00:01:31.000 We're going to draw our lawyer friends eating from a nice big pile of shit. 1.00

00:01:35.000 And we painted them eating from a pile of corn-infested shit. 0.99

00:01:38.000 And then at the end of the video, we're like, and it looks like they need a friend, and put Muhammad right next to him in the pile. 0.99

00:01:42.000 And it hangs above our bathroom.

00:01:43.000 And we never heard from them again.

00:01:45.000 They sent us cease and desist, and we ran it past our lawyers.

00:01:49.000 We think the shock may have killed them.

00:01:50.000 Yeah.

00:01:51.000 And now we have Mr. Rogers.

00:01:53.000 Now what is Mr. Rogers mad about?

00:01:55.000 We did a parody.

00:01:55.000 We did a few parodies of, you know, Won't You Be My Neighbor intros.

00:01:58.000 That was it.

00:01:58.000 Like a year ago.

00:01:59.000 But again, how could someone put a strike on you for a parody?

00:02:03.000 I mean, I thought that is protected.

00:02:06.000 Well, you know, you get into the realm of parody and satire, but even then, it depends on who looks at it.

00:02:10.000 That's the problem with you two, right?

00:02:11.000 Last time, we got our privileges back.

00:02:14.000 This time, we didn't.

00:02:15.000 We're like, listen, we've never lost a case.

00:02:17.000 We've counterfiled.

00:02:18.000 We've always won.

00:02:19.000 This is clearly parody.

00:02:20.000 Mr. Rogers was actually your brother doing it on keyboard.

00:02:23.000 We didn't even borrow any of their logos, their...

00:02:27.000 Nothing.

00:02:28.000 100% original.

00:02:28.000 Yeah.

00:02:29.000 No, here's what's fucked up. 0.96

00:02:30.000 You were telling me about a meeting that you guys had when you went to New York for YouTube. 0.97

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:35.000 And they were comparing, like, what is demonetized and what's not demonetized, and they had something.

00:02:42.000 Just explain what happened.

00:02:43.000 We don't exactly know because it's boilerplate answers, right?

00:02:47.000 We get brought out, a bunch of conservatives get brought out to New York.

00:02:50.000 Like, who is with you?

00:02:52.000 Well, us, you know, the Daily Wire people, the Prager, who are really cool, you know, Ben Shapiro, those guys, those guys there at Forward Publishing, and then a bunch of think tanks.

00:02:59.000 And everyone sat there and played nice, and they bring out this whole spread, they bring you into the Google offices.

00:03:04.000 Give you a tour of the place.

00:03:05.000 They give you a tour.

00:03:06.000 This is in New York?

00:03:07.000 This is in New York.

00:03:08.000 Do they fly you out or do they ask you to fly out?

00:03:09.000 No, they fly out.

00:03:10.000 They pay for the whole thing.

00:03:11.000 They pay for the whole thing.

00:03:12.000 Put you up?

00:03:12.000 Yeah.

00:03:13.000 How long ago is this?

00:03:14.000 Summer.

00:03:15.000 Was it summer?

00:03:15.000 Yeah, I think it was summer.

00:03:16.000 I don't know.

00:03:17.000 Six months ago.

00:03:17.000 Our half-Asian lawyer, Bill, came with us, and they didn't know.

00:03:20.000 We just were like, ah, he's our producer.

00:03:22.000 And so he came out and we were just sitting down there.

00:03:24.000 Sat there right next to us, the whole thing.

00:03:25.000 Voted like number one lawyer in the state and hilarious, really funny guy.

00:03:29.000 So we go out there and we're just sitting there kind of listening, and they're just saying nothing.

00:03:33.000 And finally, I said, well, you know, what's happening with demonetization?

00:03:36.000 What's happening with, obviously, we're all conservatives here.

00:03:38.000 We've had our videos put in restricted mode.

00:03:40.000 What are the guidelines?

00:03:41.000 We don't know.

00:03:42.000 And they're like, well, that's a very good question.

00:03:44.000 And they look to the back of the room.

00:03:45.000 As if there wasn't the obvious elephant in the room.

00:03:47.000 As if it wasn't obvious.

00:03:48.000 That's why everyone's there.

00:03:50.000 That's what happened.

00:03:50.000 That was the period blood.

00:03:52.000 They're like, well, you know, things that are hate speech, things that could be offensive, things like current events that could be controversial, and so everyone's sitting there.

00:03:59.000 Yeah, but I just said, what about BuzzFeed women painting in period blood in the trending feed? 0.99

00:04:04.000 Painting in viscous-y, chunky period blood on the home feed that's on YouTube trending.

00:04:08.000 What about that?

00:04:09.000 Is that considered, like, child-friendly?

00:04:10.000 And conservatives were in there looking back, and I was like, ugh!

00:04:13.000 We were ruining the movie.

00:04:15.000 Why are we here?

00:04:17.000 That's a big problem.

00:04:18.000 People don't say anything.

00:04:19.000 Well, that is a very valid discussion.

00:04:22.000 That's valid.

00:04:23.000 If you can paint in period blood, and I don't think you should be restricted.

00:04:28.000 I think if you want to paint in period blood, as long as I know what you're doing, it says painting in period blood.

00:04:32.000 They were proud of the title.

00:04:34.000 Don't put that in my suggested feed.

00:04:35.000 Well, I might actually watch it.

00:04:37.000 Here's the thing.

00:04:37.000 Not these women.

00:04:38.000 I might.

00:04:39.000 I might just for the hell of it.

00:04:40.000 This is the Boldly channel.

00:04:41.000 But the point is, like, I don't want to take that right away from them.

00:04:45.000 I'm confused by what is okay, what's not okay.

00:04:50.000 They embolden the right if you silence them.

00:04:54.000 You embolden the left if you silence them.

00:04:55.000 You embolden people.

00:04:57.000 You give them power.

00:04:58.000 You make the whole thing bigger than it has to be.

00:05:02.000 People are allowed to have differences of opinions, and they're allowed to have different ideologies.

00:05:05.000 But when you have a platform where you radically restrict one ideology and you openly support another one, you're picking a side.

00:05:15.000 It's kind of like Dinesh D'Souza talks about.

00:05:17.000 It's not about the laws.

00:05:18.000 Is it applied equally?

00:05:20.000 Right.

00:05:20.000 YouTube doesn't even respect the laws.

00:05:22.000 Here's something that can happen with YouTube.

00:05:23.000 Just to give you an example.

00:05:24.000 A lot of people don't know this.

00:05:25.000 So there's a single-party consent state, two-party consent state.

00:05:28.000 California is one of the few states where both people have to know they're on camera.

00:05:32.000 Now, even sometimes in a two-party consent state, there's no reasonable expectation of privacy if you're at a public event, right?

00:05:38.000 If you're at a public protest, you can't say, hey, you can't take my picture, you're there publicly protesting.

00:05:42.000 So these are legal layers, right?

00:05:44.000 We had someone in a single-party consent state, in Michigan, on camera, at a public protest, sign a release.

00:05:52.000 To give an interview.

00:05:52.000 And then complained to YouTube and said, I don't want to be on that video.

00:05:55.000 It didn't matter that we presented the law, the paperwork, to YouTube.

00:05:59.000 It was taken down.

00:06:00.000 We had to blur the face.

00:06:01.000 But did they...

00:06:01.000 It didn't even look bad.

00:06:02.000 Was it under false pretenses?

00:06:05.000 Like, did they think that you were doing one thing and that you were really doing something else?

00:06:08.000 No, the crazy thing is this actually was a guy...

00:06:10.000 Who agreed with us on almost everything.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, he was talking about divestment.

00:06:12.000 He was really smart.

00:06:13.000 Maybe that's what he was pissed about.

00:06:14.000 Well, you know what?

00:06:14.000 He probably just got a lot of feedback and was like, well, this is freaking me out.

00:06:17.000 I want to get out of this.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, but as a content creator, you can't be like, well, sorry I didn't like it.

00:06:22.000 You can understand his perspective, him trying to get it taken down.

00:06:27.000 If you're a general public person, and you don't know what the fuck you're doing, you say something, you don't think... 0.98

00:06:31.000 He pulled Elena Dunham. 0.99

00:06:32.000 He realized later he was raped. 0.96

00:06:33.000 It was much later.

00:06:34.000 He was retroactively taken down.

00:06:36.000 Pulled Elena Dunham.

00:06:38.000 Now, what did they say when you pointed out the whole period blood thing, painting in period blood?

00:06:46.000 Dead silence.

00:06:47.000 No one said anything.

00:06:48.000 They didn't respond to you?

00:06:49.000 That's a good question.

00:06:51.000 We'll get to that later in the day.

00:06:52.000 So later in the day was when they came up with this next-gen news.

00:06:56.000 It got to a point where we were just pissing ourselves laughing.

00:06:59.000 So explain this because you explained it to me earlier.

00:07:00.000 Well, I was like, the problem is, right, I have to be careful because otherwise they'll take it out of context.

00:07:04.000 So then this is the news portion of the day, this whole YouTube conference, bringing out conservatives and, you know, the salmon pate plate, which I don't think there's anything grosser.

00:07:11.000 He was eating pasted fish in the car in the way here.

00:07:14.000 It was quick and delicious.

00:07:15.000 So...

00:07:16.000 Was it Next Gen News or Evolution?

00:07:19.000 I always get it wrong.

00:07:20.000 Whatever I think it is, it's the opposite.

00:07:21.000 I think it's Next Gen. Our lawyers would completely advocate against what we're doing.

00:07:24.000 We're giving such specificity.

00:07:26.000 This is the exact channel.

00:07:27.000 It's like hip-hop and sneakers, you know, like a sneaker haul with whatever the guy from the show Black-ish Anthony, whatever, that kind of stuff.

00:07:35.000 So it's a lot of hip-hop news.

00:07:36.000 They come out to teach us how to do news.

00:07:38.000 And they go, so, before we show, you know, so-and-so from Next Gen News, a sizzle reel.

00:07:43.000 And every other word is the N-word, M-F-er. 1.00

00:07:47.000 And you can see them looking back and they turn it down.

00:07:50.000 Because this is what the whole channel is.

00:07:51.000 They didn't screen that.

00:07:52.000 No, they didn't screen it.

00:07:52.000 And she comes out and she's talking about news and how to create content and the algorithms.

00:07:56.000 And knowing your audience.

00:07:57.000 Knowing your audience.

00:07:58.000 And she is the content creator?

00:08:00.000 She's like the person on YouTube.

00:08:01.000 She's one of the founders of it, I guess.

00:08:03.000 Oh, okay.

00:08:03.000 I mean, creating content.

00:08:05.000 You're filming someone going, like, I like these sneakers.

00:08:07.000 I mean, I don't know what content it is.

00:08:09.000 And then I just said, yeah, you know, at this point, they've been saying we're going to get to news all day.

00:08:13.000 This is the first time someone's come out.

00:08:15.000 I said, yeah, question.

00:08:17.000 We just heard about the new guidelines, and now it's supposed to be advertiser-friendly.

00:08:20.000 It's supposed to be family-friendly.

00:08:22.000 Considering that you deal with hip-hop and a lot of pretty adult, pretty profane content, have you been hit by, at the time it was called the adpocalypse.

00:08:29.000 I said, have you been hit by this?

00:08:30.000 And she said, no, not at all.

00:08:32.000 I said, okay, no further questions.

00:08:34.000 That's amazing.

00:08:35.000 So all of that stuff's fine?

00:08:38.000 It's fine.

00:08:38.000 It's about the wrong opinion.

00:08:40.000 That's really what it comes down to. 0.96

00:08:41.000 But is it fine because they're black? 1.00

00:08:43.000 She wasn't black? 0.99

00:08:44.000 She wasn't black. 0.99

00:08:44.000 No, she wasn't black. 0.99

00:08:45.000 She was a white girl. 0.88

00:08:46.000 I think she was black. 1.00

00:08:47.000 Really?

00:08:48.000 Yeah.

00:08:49.000 Well, that's like me saying that I'm Irish.

00:08:53.000 I've been talking about this.

00:08:54.000 I am more Irish than a lot of people that call themselves black.

00:08:58.000 I'm one quarter Irish, three quarters Italian.

00:09:00.000 But if you look at me, I look mostly Italian.

00:09:02.000 But if I said, I'm an Irish man, people would be like, wait a minute.

00:09:06.000 Are you really?

00:09:07.000 She was like Amber Crombie and Fitch black. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Yeah.

00:09:09.000 Amber Crombie and Fitch black?

00:09:12.000 She's generically ethnic.

00:09:13.000 Okay.

00:09:14.000 Like if you were a guy, you know, you'd have no problems with them dating your daughter if you were kind of a racist. 0.78

00:09:18.000 They knew that I was pretty bad.

00:09:20.000 I'll let it slide.

00:09:21.000 They don't want to intimidate everybody. 0.95

00:09:21.000 But if she went to like a really fucking heavy-duty hip-hop place and started throwing that word around, they would look at her like, hey, is she even allowed? 0.95

00:09:32.000 Are you allowed to say that? 0.99

00:09:34.000 Can you go blurting out the N-word when you're that white? 1.00

00:09:37.000 I didn't know that she could do it with her sizzle reel. 0.97

00:09:39.000 Well, that seems like a bit of a problem, right?

00:09:42.000 That's like one of those weird double standard rules in terms of the language.

00:09:47.000 If you are in that community, you're allowed to use what is otherwise extremely offensive language.

00:09:53.000 Yeah, sure.

00:09:55.000 You have to have a hood pass to use it, but you need the Platinum version.

00:09:58.000 Yeah.

00:09:59.000 To really go all the way. 0.92

00:10:00.000 You need your hood past black. 0.93

00:10:02.000 But especially on YouTube.

00:10:03.000 I mean, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with using that language.

00:10:06.000 I had a conversation, I told you about this, that I had a conversation with this woman from YouTube, and one of the things that we were talking about was demonetization, and we were talking about, like, why things get flagged, and I was talking about a conversation that got flagged on some...

00:10:21.000 When someone recommends something and they have it in their feed, like their preferred playlist, like a regular person, not a content creator.

00:10:29.000 But if they have it on their...

00:10:31.000 You know how you could do that?

00:10:32.000 You can have it in your channel.

00:10:34.000 I think it's just like suggested playlists.

00:10:35.000 It's their algorithms.

00:10:36.000 Is that what it's called?

00:10:37.000 You would call it a...

00:10:38.000 But not their algorithms.

00:10:39.000 You would pick it.

00:10:41.000 Say if I watched one of your videos on Bob Ross and I liked it.

00:10:44.000 You put it in your queue?

00:10:44.000 Is that what it is?

00:10:46.000 Oh, the queue.

00:10:46.000 Yes.

00:10:47.000 Okay.

00:10:47.000 So this guy got flagged.

00:10:48.000 Gosh, I feel really stupid right now. 0.90

00:10:50.000 None of us just got that one film. 0.80

00:10:52.000 We're all on YouTube, too. 1.00

00:10:53.000 Stupid asses. 1.00

00:10:55.000 So this guy got flagged, and it was just a conversation between Sam Harris and some other guy. 1.00

00:11:01.000 I forget who he was.

00:11:02.000 He was an intellectual.

00:11:04.000 And it was about left-wing culture.

00:11:06.000 And it was about left-wing radical ideology.

00:11:10.000 And they were criticizing it.

00:11:12.000 And this got his channel flagged.

00:11:15.000 And I was like, well, how is this possible?

00:11:16.000 And she's like, well, he's advocating that people watch this and it must promote hate speech. 0.94

00:11:21.000 I'm like, I fucking guarantee you that doesn't promote hate speech. 0.95

00:11:24.000 Right. 0.79

00:11:24.000 Did you guys even watch it or does somebody else complain about it and flag it? 0.79

00:11:28.000 And then I brought up Jordan Peterson, by the way, was just here, just left.

00:11:31.000 Yeah, he's gonna be on our show there next week too.

00:11:33.000 Smell Canada. 0.54

00:11:37.000 And she said, like, he's a problem.

00:11:40.000 He's a bit of a problem.

00:11:41.000 He's a troublemaker.

00:11:42.000 I'm like, he's a troublemaker.

00:11:44.000 Because he has his own opinions on things?

00:11:46.000 Like, what is going on?

00:11:48.000 Are you guys promoting a very specific ideology and anyone who differs from that is hate speech?

00:11:55.000 Because we're getting crazy if that's the case.

00:11:58.000 I think a lot of them don't know.

00:11:59.000 Here it is.

00:12:00.000 Oh, is this it?

00:12:01.000 Yeah, Douglas Murray.

00:12:02.000 Hey, look, I can see it over there now.

00:12:03.000 Community guidelines strike for just listening to an honest intellectual conversation between Sam Harris and Douglas Murray.

00:12:08.000 Who's the guy who got it dinking down?

00:12:11.000 Yeah, the man's P-T-R-K-C-C-X. He's very bold.

00:12:17.000 Yeah, so this is a community guidelines strike.

00:12:21.000 By the way, I listened to that conversation between Sam Harris and Doug Murray.

00:12:25.000 Douglas, sorry, Douglas.

00:12:27.000 There's nothing offensive about it.

00:12:29.000 It's just, they're discussing things.

00:12:31.000 Well, here's the thing is, now we've scaled it backwards.

00:12:32.000 Even if there were something offensive about it.

00:12:35.000 See if you can find the actual video, what that is, and find out what the title of it is, and if maybe there's some sort of a description.

00:12:41.000 Does it say?

00:12:41.000 This thing here is the title.

00:12:43.000 What does it say there?

00:12:44.000 Just says Sam Harris and Douglas Murray?

00:12:46.000 Yeah.

00:12:47.000 I forget who Douglas Murray is, but click on him.

00:12:49.000 See if you can click on him.

00:12:53.000 The author of The Strange Death of Europe.

00:12:55.000 Okay, Immigration, Identity, Islam. 0.64

00:12:57.000 That's what it is.

00:12:58.000 So Douglas Murray is critical of the open border policy that you're seeing become very problematic in some parts of Europe.

00:13:08.000 Which is funny because Sam Harris is against the wall, you know, against Donald Trump's wall.

00:13:12.000 So it's like that's just two people probably with differing opinions on that issue to some degree.

00:13:16.000 Well, Sam Harris is a pretty noted critic of Islam, but I think...

00:13:19.000 Noted, yeah, but I mean the immigration thing here.

00:13:21.000 He's more open borders in the States than a guy like that, probably.

00:13:24.000 Yes, yeah.

00:13:24.000 Well, I think what he's essentially saying is they're talking about the very real issues that they're dealing with in Europe.

00:13:31.000 And in YouTube's eyes, yeah.

00:13:33.000 I mean, we played a video the other day of Paris. 0.95

00:13:35.000 Of some parts of Paris that immigrants have moved into and just fucking completely wrecked. 1.00

00:13:41.000 I mean, I'm not anti-immigration. 0.73

00:13:42.000 My grandparents were immigrants.

00:13:43.000 But I'm just saying that there's a real issue.

00:13:46.000 And this guy, Douglas Murray, was discussing this real issue with Sam Harris.

00:13:50.000 That got flagged, and it got labeled as hate speech. 0.99

00:13:54.000 Like, fucking crazy, man. 0.99

00:13:56.000 It's weird. 1.00

00:13:57.000 I had a friend, Lee Dorn.

00:13:58.000 So he actually, he's graduated like a...

00:14:01.000 University of Michigan Law, really just a brilliant, brilliant guy.

00:14:03.000 It's like a Shapiro kind of guy.

00:14:04.000 And he was one of the early, early YouTubers, early adopters, first other conservative on YouTube, very analytical, very dry, very smart.

00:14:11.000 And he did a video that was just called something like, the Japanese were not the victims in World War II. And it was a video about the atrocities, I think, the Japanese committed against the Chinese.

00:14:20.000 That's all it was. 0.68

00:14:21.000 Like the rape of Nam King. 0.88

00:14:23.000 Yes, but he didn't get super graphic.

00:14:24.000 But he was basically talking about, like, people just look back and they look at Hiroshima, but let's actually look at the aspirations of the Japanese Empire.

00:14:30.000 Historical, it was removed as hate speech.

00:14:32.000 And here's the thing, he came to me, and because we had those contacts directly at YouTube, they immediately apologized and fixed it.

00:14:39.000 But what worries me is, well, what if you don't have a million-plus subscribers?

00:14:41.000 You know, what if I weren't there for him?

00:14:44.000 And that's the one thing that I always get worried about with comedy and with a lot of entertainers is they kind of pave a path and sometimes you see these guys close the door behind them.

00:14:51.000 Like, well, it was okay for me to say it, but now this is, that's really, I've learned better, we shouldn't say it.

00:14:56.000 And it's like, well, hold on a second, we're in the boat where you were.

00:15:01.000 There's a lot of famine thinking going on in that regard where people automatically want to protect what they have and get nervous about it and they forget what got them there in the first place.

00:15:09.000 What makes any of us popular is the ability to express yourself online in a way that resonates with other people that are listening.

00:15:17.000 Now, as soon as you restrict that, as soon as you change that and say, well, I just want to do real good and I'm making a lot of money now.

00:15:23.000 I'm going to change who I am. 1.00

00:15:24.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:15:26.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:15:26.000 You're just fucked. 1.00

00:15:27.000 I would take it a step further and say authenticity. 1.00

00:15:29.000 I think people like you because you're authentic.

00:15:31.000 I think we're pretty authentic with what we do with the show.

00:15:33.000 I mean, we're pretty straightforward.

00:15:35.000 People come up and they meet us at shows and they're like, wow, it feels like you're on your show.

00:15:40.000 You can't be authentic and play by YouTube's rules unless you completely agree with them.

00:15:45.000 You have to agree with them.

00:15:46.000 You have to be authentically willing to abide by the rules.

00:15:49.000 So that's the whole thing.

00:15:50.000 There's no authenticity.

00:15:52.000 Regardless of the rules that they claim, which are so ambiguous, in practice, there's no way to make it work.

00:15:59.000 Well, I think this is indicative of the ideology that radiates throughout Silicon Valley, which is radical, left, progressive, neo-Marxist sort of ideology.

00:16:11.000 And there's so much of that going on throughout Silicon Valley, so much in the tech community, so much uber-progressive thinking.

00:16:18.000 Which, you know, look, I think all of it comes from the right place.

00:16:22.000 I think they all want No racism.

00:16:24.000 They want no hate speech.

00:16:26.000 They all want wonderful things.

00:16:28.000 But you can't just decide arbitrarily what is and isn't based on your perspective.

00:16:34.000 You have to look at it honestly.

00:16:37.000 I don't think they're doing that.

00:16:39.000 I think when you look at that Douglas Murray, Sam Harris thing, and the guy getting a community strike for just liking it.

00:16:45.000 I mean, this is crazy.

00:16:47.000 They take an authoritarian approach to solving the whole thing, and then refuse to accept the results, which is the Donald Trump presidency and the things they've created.

00:16:56.000 Well, in their defense, one of the things they did say to me, that the problem they're dealing with is blunt tools.

00:17:05.000 They're saying these tools that demonetize things, they're not good yet.

00:17:09.000 And she said within the next six to eight months, they're going to get better. 0.99

00:17:12.000 Bullshit. 0.99

00:17:13.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:17:14.000 Okay, hold on a second.

00:17:15.000 Let me just express her perspective.

00:17:18.000 She was saying that they have made significant strides since they first started doing it and they're getting better at it.

00:17:24.000 They're getting better at isolating. 0.99

00:17:25.000 And one of the things we discussed is those fucking creepy cartoons. 0.99

00:17:29.000 I'm sure you've seen those. 0.99

00:17:30.000 Oh yeah, the child molestation stuff.

00:17:31.000 Well, the violence stuff.

00:17:33.000 A lot of it, like babies getting hit in the head by bottles.

00:17:35.000 Have you seen those?

00:17:36.000 Yeah, those things have been up for years.

00:17:37.000 I've watched good things.

00:17:38.000 But you know what we're talking about.

00:17:40.000 I've heard of it, but I've never seen it.

00:17:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:17:42.000 Well, it's a weird thing where these things get put on a kid's playlist.

00:17:46.000 You know, it's like Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse getting drunk and then like someone throws a bottle up in the air and it hits a baby in the head and there's blood everywhere.

00:17:54.000 And these same patterns are repeated over and over again in hundreds of these videos, maybe thousands.

00:17:59.000 A lot of them have been removed from YouTube, right?

00:18:02.000 They've been pretty proactive.

00:18:03.000 Sounds like Quentin Tarantino making cartoons. 1.00

00:18:05.000 Dude, it's fucked up. 0.99

00:18:06.000 See, we can find them. 0.99

00:18:07.000 See what I want.

00:18:08.000 This is the Eli Roth playlist. 0.95

00:18:10.000 I found a weirder playlist of this guy dissecting candy and making weird voices over it, and then there was a whole list of videos of people saying, like, what the fuck is this channel?

00:18:20.000 What's going on here?

00:18:21.000 And it just got bigger and bigger and bigger, and I don't think anything's happening. 1.00

00:18:24.000 It's just weird shit. 0.99

00:18:25.000 But that's... 1.00

00:18:26.000 Is it different than the YouTube kids thing?

00:18:28.000 No, I think you're talking about the YouTube kids thing. 0.98

00:18:30.000 Yeah, the kid thing though is more fucked up because it's always the same pattern. 0.92

00:18:35.000 It's like these kids get together with a parent, the parents give the kids booze, the kids get drunk, they throw bottles, the baby gets hit in the head with a bottle, there's blood everywhere. 0.98

00:18:45.000 It's like the same thing over and over and over again. 0.99

00:18:47.000 There's been all these videos exposing these videos, like people that are analyzing and saying, what the fuck is this? 0.98

00:18:54.000 And it seems to be foreign. 0.98

00:18:55.000 They seem to be done in other countries.

00:18:57.000 And essentially what they're doing is they're tapping into this.

00:18:59.000 They have a pattern that they use.

00:19:01.000 They're tapping into whatever algorithm that creates your coming up next feed.

00:19:07.000 So a little kid could be watching a real Donald Duck cartoon, and then it leads into this.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, but I don't think that's what anyone's really complaining about. 0.73

00:19:15.000 I think we can all find common ground like, let's get rid of the Minnie Mouse being raped on YouTube, you know?

00:19:19.000 But the problem is, I understand her perspective, and that's what they told us, too, almost a year ago.

00:19:24.000 But I even asked them, I said, hold on a second.

00:19:26.000 You just wine and dine us and you showed us your whole virtual reality set.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:30.000 We're the most advanced.

00:19:31.000 That's why YouTube wants to be at the forefront of policy.

00:19:33.000 You know, they're really aggressively on this net neutrality thing, everything.

00:19:36.000 Google, really big policy wonks.

00:19:39.000 Really big lobbyists, if you look at them.

00:19:40.000 But...

00:19:41.000 They go, so, okay, you're super advanced.

00:19:43.000 Most technologically advanced company in the world.

00:19:45.000 But on our channel...

00:19:46.000 This is a real-life one. 1.00

00:19:48.000 It's kind of the same kind of shit. 0.99

00:19:50.000 But these aren't as offensive to me as the cartoon ones. 0.99

00:19:53.000 This gets weird.

00:19:54.000 It's like a 15-minute weird video.

00:19:56.000 Just weird stuff happening.

00:19:57.000 Kids are supposed to watch this.

00:19:58.000 They stumble across it because the algorithm, you know, if they're watching a cartoon with Spider-Man in it, this shows up next.

00:20:03.000 Oh, does she get drunk and he rapes her or something? 0.99

00:20:05.000 I mean, I don't know. 0.57

00:20:06.000 She was getting tied up a second ago. 0.96

00:20:07.000 That's a really shitty Spider-Man. 0.96

00:20:08.000 I wouldn't be fooled. 0.94

00:20:10.000 That wouldn't make it past our wardrobe.

00:20:13.000 Anyway.

00:20:14.000 But the point is, you can't claim you're the most advanced tech company in the world. 0.92

00:20:18.000 And then on our channel, you're getting ads for Muslim singles and gay cruises? 0.91

00:20:23.000 Hold on a second. 0.90

00:20:24.000 Your algorithm can't figure out?

00:20:26.000 It is pretty funny.

00:20:27.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:20:27.000 But we're not getting any money from those ads.

00:20:30.000 That means that if our videos are controversial, our videos are not a violation of guidelines, there are sponsors out there.

00:20:36.000 I mean, we see it with Walther.

00:20:37.000 Our firearm company came to sponsor.

00:20:38.000 They seek us out because it's worth octuple to them because they want to reach our audience.

00:20:43.000 Whereas YouTube says, well, no, it's not advertiser friendly.

00:20:45.000 No, no, it's not advertiser friendly for the people you have on there.

00:20:47.000 It's not gay crews advertiser friendly, but you're telling me you have the most advanced algorithms in the world, and you're running ads for Young Turks on my video.

00:20:55.000 Do they really?

00:20:56.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:20:57.000 I mean, I've seen a bunch of leftist ads on my channel.

00:20:59.000 They might do that on purpose.

00:21:00.000 It would be hysterical.

00:21:01.000 After your jank impression.

00:21:02.000 Yeah.

00:21:02.000 When you went to that one conference and you went as him.

00:21:07.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 He just goes to him, oh, it's actually a target ad.

00:21:10.000 It's very disappointing.

00:21:10.000 I would have thought that was hilarious if I was him.

00:21:13.000 I mean, first of all, it was disappointing that there was only 20 people in there.

00:21:16.000 I wouldn't have even gone. 0.91

00:21:17.000 I'd have been like, look, let's take this to a smaller place, because if a video gets out of this, this is fucking embarrassing. 0.92

00:21:23.000 There's 20 people in this one room. 0.93

00:21:25.000 I know.

00:21:25.000 And then you walked in as him.

00:21:27.000 I didn't want to do it.

00:21:29.000 Right.

00:21:29.000 Like, he had called me out.

00:21:30.000 And we've had people even on this show.

00:21:33.000 Of course you wanted to do it.

00:21:34.000 That's why you did it.

00:21:35.000 No, no, he knows I didn't want to do it.

00:21:36.000 I was like, but I feel like I have to, because he called me out, and I said, I accept. 0.70

00:21:39.000 You know, basically, like, okay, let's have...

00:21:40.000 And then nothing.

00:21:41.000 He called you out, how so?

00:21:42.000 He was kind of... 1.00

00:21:42.000 Constantly talking trash. 1.00

00:21:44.000 Oh, Steven Crowder, self-styled comedian. 1.00

00:21:46.000 Oh, he sucks, bullshit. 1.00

00:21:47.000 You know, that whole thing. 1.00

00:21:48.000 So it's like, okay, I responded.

00:21:49.000 I'm like, let's hash this out.

00:21:51.000 He will mention, he will rebut every Tom, Dick, and Harry on YouTube not named Steven Crowder.

00:21:56.000 So at this point, I was just trying to get an interview with him.

00:21:58.000 We've had people on our show we disagree with.

00:22:00.000 We do it.

00:22:00.000 An hour-long changed my mind where I sit down and listen to someone scream at me.

00:22:04.000 I'm more than willing.

00:22:05.000 The video you did, though, where you're drinking the bacon grease and you did Anna.

00:22:08.000 It was pretty mean.

00:22:09.000 You did him.

00:22:09.000 No, it was funny!

00:22:11.000 Come on, man. 0.99

00:22:12.000 It's fucking funny. 0.98

00:22:13.000 It made me laugh. 0.99

00:22:14.000 But the point is he forced my hand.

00:22:16.000 Right.

00:22:16.000 I had to do it.

00:22:17.000 It's like that guy in Diner has to punch all the people who ganged up on a baseball diamond throughout the...

00:22:22.000 I was like, well, now I have to do this with Cenk because there's no other recourse.

00:22:25.000 And he kept going to the audience.

00:22:27.000 The only reason we showed the audience...

00:22:28.000 It's like you two.

00:22:28.000 There's no other recourse.

00:22:29.000 You have to go to Trinity Bane.

00:22:31.000 Right.

00:22:31.000 It has to escalate.

00:22:32.000 He goes, listen, you're dying.

00:22:34.000 You're dying.

00:22:34.000 The audience doesn't like you.

00:22:36.000 So it's like at this point, you brought up the audience.

00:22:38.000 Let's do a pan.

00:22:39.000 Yeah.

00:22:39.000 You know, there's 20 people.

00:22:40.000 Like, I don't want to go up and embarrass the guy, but he's such, just such an asshole. 1.00

00:22:46.000 You know, there's just no way around it. 0.99

00:22:47.000 So, we kind of retired that character.

00:22:49.000 That character was funny when you're drinking the bacon grease.

00:22:52.000 That's not true.

00:22:52.000 We brought him back this week.

00:22:53.000 Oh, that's right.

00:22:54.000 I've had nothing but pleasant dealings with Cenk.

00:22:57.000 I don't have any hate for the guy.

00:22:59.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 But I laughed.

00:23:01.000 I had a wonderful handshake with him.

00:23:02.000 It was a wonderful moment.

00:23:03.000 Was it?

00:23:03.000 Yeah.

00:23:04.000 Did you feel good?

00:23:04.000 Yeah.

00:23:05.000 I just think, like most people, they get embroiled in conflict and then they lose perspective and then it builds up and then it becomes something stupid. 1.00

00:23:13.000 And I think, you know, his thing with Alex Jones is handled very poorly when they start screaming at each other and Anna called him a fat fuck. 1.00

00:23:20.000 I'm like, God damn, you can't do that. 1.00

00:23:22.000 Like, this is against everything you guys stand for. 1.00

00:23:24.000 You're calling him a fat fuck. 1.00

00:23:26.000 You can't fat shame him. 1.00

00:23:26.000 You just body shaved him. 1.00

00:23:28.000 Meanwhile, Cenk's fatter. 1.00

00:23:29.000 This is fucking crazy. 1.00

00:23:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:31.000 Like, what are you doing? 0.99

00:23:32.000 Yeah.

00:23:33.000 Well, Cenk's put him on.

00:23:34.000 I don't think he realizes that yet.

00:23:36.000 I don't think he's at the point where he realizes that he's bigger than Alex.

00:23:39.000 Oh.

00:23:40.000 Really?

00:23:41.000 Maybe he's lying to himself.

00:23:42.000 I don't know.

00:23:43.000 I don't want to speculate on how he looks himself in the mirror and what he tells himself in the morning to get through the day.

00:23:46.000 Like I said, my dealings with Cenk have been nothing but pleasant. 1.00

00:23:49.000 I like talking to him.

00:23:50.000 I had him on the podcast.

00:23:51.000 I like talking to him.

00:23:52.000 I just think people lose their place.

00:23:54.000 They lose their view of the world.

00:23:58.000 I think when your identity is entirely tied up in the numbers, right?

00:24:01.000 When it's entirely tied up, his only defense was, look at the audience!

00:24:04.000 It's like, hold on a second, that ebbs and flows.

00:24:07.000 I mean, you know, even, I mean, you guys have been, obviously, have a crazy successful show, but some shows are more popular than others.

00:24:11.000 Of course.

00:24:12.000 And for them, they, you know, this far left sort of, I guess, progressive viewpoint, and they've gotten increasingly worse, is not popular.

00:24:20.000 And when that's your only argument, when that's your whole identity...

00:24:23.000 It's a very short time between that and when the pendulum swings.

00:24:26.000 Even when you debated Ben.

00:24:28.000 Ben Shapiro.

00:24:29.000 Yeah, that was pretty right.

00:24:30.000 It was the audience swung.

00:24:31.000 The year before was him and Dinesh D'Souza.

00:24:33.000 And his whole audience was like, you want the president and Dinesh?

00:24:35.000 And people were clapping for him.

00:24:37.000 And then when he was sitting there with Ben, it didn't work.

00:24:39.000 Well, the Dinesh one, he had that ace in the hole. 0.99

00:24:43.000 Like, that card, like you went to prison, is a fucking tough card to get by. 0.99

00:24:47.000 It's pretty funny. 0.99

00:24:48.000 It is funny.

00:24:48.000 It's funny to picture Dinesh in prison.

00:24:50.000 I'm friends with Dinesh, but it is funny, you know?

00:24:53.000 Well, I felt like the Sam Harris one was a big downfall for him.

00:24:56.000 Yeah, because of Ben Affleck and all that stuff.

00:24:58.000 Sam just handled it better, you know, when they had that long three-hour conversation.

00:25:03.000 In a three-hour conversation with someone...

00:25:06.000 You know, it's hard to hide.

00:25:09.000 It's like your ideas get exposed.

00:25:11.000 Your lack of knowledge gets exposed.

00:25:13.000 Well, that's why the left doesn't do it.

00:25:15.000 And I know people say, well, okay, we do a segment where the biggest success for us this year that we're really grateful for is the Change My Mind segment.

00:25:21.000 And that's just where I literally sit down, we put up a booth that says, I'm pro-gun, change my mind, or I'm pro-life, change my mind, or there are only two genders.

00:25:27.000 That's your shirt?

00:25:27.000 I'm pro-gun, change my mind.

00:25:28.000 It's wildly unpopular here in L.A. It's wildly unpopular here in L.A. It's going to the wrong spots.

00:25:32.000 I've got to tell you where to go.

00:25:33.000 Yeah.

00:25:35.000 We had one that was like an hour-long thing on abortion.

00:25:38.000 One that was just at SMU, five people just lined up and I just listened to them.

00:25:42.000 And out of the five people, two of them changed their mind.

00:25:45.000 And then some of them we didn't find comments.

00:25:46.000 It's completely unedited.

00:25:48.000 And everyone, when I worked at Fox News, everyone in cable news would have told you this would not work and no one's going to watch an hour-long discussion.

00:25:54.000 But there's no one on the left who does that.

00:25:56.000 Well, they can't do it in their format.

00:25:58.000 They can't do it when they have an 8 to 10 slot or an 8 to 9 slot and there's every 15 minutes you have to sandwich in a commercial and then you have all these segments that you have to play.

00:26:07.000 They can't do it. 0.94

00:26:08.000 But that's just because their format sucks. 0.98

00:26:11.000 It's an antiquated form of entertainment. 0.96

00:26:13.000 It just doesn't work anymore.

00:26:15.000 But even the lefts on YouTube, like the Young Turks, they don't do that.

00:26:18.000 The unedited, just long-form thing, they're afraid of it.

00:26:19.000 What other good left shows are there on YouTube?

00:26:22.000 What other really popular ones?

00:26:24.000 I don't know.

00:26:25.000 I don't know.

00:26:26.000 They're really...

00:26:26.000 Well, Sam Seder's show, right?

00:26:28.000 The majority report? 0.88

00:26:29.000 I fucked that up.

00:26:30.000 I called it the minority report once. 0.89

00:26:32.000 That's easy to do.

00:26:33.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 They think I did it on purpose.

00:26:35.000 Were they mad?

00:26:36.000 I don't know.

00:26:37.000 They thought you were doing, like, the conservative talk show thing where you're like, ah, the Democrats!

00:26:43.000 I don't do that.

00:26:43.000 I think they also called me right-wing, too, which is like, alright.

00:26:48.000 One of the things they were saying was that people just decide, like, that these people, that we decide to help each other out, that the right supports themselves and they support, like, other right-wing people, but the left needs to figure out how to do that.

00:27:01.000 I'm like... 0.90

00:27:02.000 I'll fucking have anybody on. 0.98

00:27:03.000 I have left-wing people on all the time. 0.99

00:27:06.000 I have libertarians on all the time.

00:27:07.000 I have people that are completely neutral to politics on all the time.

00:27:09.000 I just think when you box yourself into these ideologies, when you're only pro-left and you can't see any perspective outside of that, it becomes an issue.

00:27:21.000 It's going to be an issue for you today after a double feature of Jordan Peterson and us.

00:27:24.000 It's probably going to come fast and heavy. 0.99

00:27:26.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:27:27.000 I really don't. 0.99

00:27:28.000 And Jordan Peterson of all people.

00:27:29.000 I knew it when I was doing this.

00:27:31.000 First of all, Jordan Peterson, I'll have that guy on anytime.

00:27:35.000 He's one of my favorite people to talk to.

00:27:37.000 Just a fascinating guy.

00:27:38.000 But I knew having you two back-to-back. 0.99

00:27:40.000 It's like, oh, it's the fucking alt-right sandwich. 0.99

00:27:42.000 Look at Logan. 1.00

00:27:43.000 He's just embracing it.

00:27:44.000 What are you, a Nazi now?

00:27:45.000 Yeah.

00:27:50.000 What I wanted to talk to you guys about is some of my favorite stuff that you've done. 0.92

00:27:55.000 And some of my favorite stuff that you've done is the undercover shit. 0.94

00:27:58.000 And one of the things that I found the most disturbing was when you two posed as a gay couple and you went to that place where they were advocating transgender children and transitioning children as young as three years old. 0.99

00:28:11.000 I don't know if it was three years old, but puberty blockers, they were talking about. 0.99

00:28:14.000 Yeah, but I think it was really fucking... 0.95

00:28:16.000 No, no, you know what? 0.96

00:28:17.000 Actually, three years old was Owen Benjamin got in an argument on Twitter and lost his manager because he was saying that someone is fucking insane for giving puberty blockers to a three-year-old kid, for giving hormone blockers to a baby, which I am... 1.00

00:28:33.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99

00:28:34.000 That's not even a strong enough word. 1.00

00:28:35.000 I mean, it's insanity. 0.99

00:28:37.000 Fucking insanity. 1.00

00:28:38.000 I mean, your body's not even developed. 1.00

00:28:40.000 You're not even close.

00:28:41.000 We're not talking about 18. We're not even talking about 21, which is arguably still crazy.

00:28:46.000 Like, you should probably wait until your fucking frontal cortex fully develops to figure out who you are. 0.98

00:28:50.000 But the idea that you're going to know at three who you're going to be when you're 30. Well, they present the other side. 0.99

00:28:56.000 Bananas. 0.87

00:28:56.000 They act as though you're crazy. 0.87

00:28:57.000 Right.

00:28:57.000 They were like, well, you know, the thing is with the puberty.

00:28:59.000 Remember that person looked like Smee?

00:29:01.000 Well, it looked like Smee from Hook.

00:29:02.000 Well, let's play it.

00:29:03.000 Smee with Hook. 1.00

00:29:03.000 Let's play some of it because it's fucking nuts. 1.00

00:29:07.000 When I watched it, I was like, oh, my God. 0.99

00:29:09.000 Like, what are these people saying?

00:29:11.000 It's been taken down since you asked me about that, too.

00:29:13.000 Really?

00:29:14.000 Yeah, we just have to blurt the guy...

00:29:15.000 Well, I'm not afraid.

00:29:16.000 Rex Butt.

00:29:17.000 Rex Butt.

00:29:18.000 Dr. Rex Butt, who shows up in Pride Parade.

00:29:20.000 That's his name?

00:29:21.000 His name is Rex Butt.

00:29:22.000 That is hilarious.

00:29:23.000 Kid you not.

00:29:24.000 We're not in a real world. 1.00

00:29:26.000 We're in a goddamn simulation. 0.99

00:29:27.000 It was a town hall. 1.00

00:29:28.000 This was a town hall.

00:29:29.000 We're in a simulation.

00:29:30.000 This can't be real.

00:29:31.000 His name is Rex Butt?

00:29:33.000 And he got YouTube to take it down.

00:29:34.000 What do you do for a living?

00:29:35.000 You know...

00:29:40.000 Okay, let's play some of this and if there's most of the people are listening rather than watching so...

00:29:47.000 Naki Jared, you know what this is? 0.72

00:29:48.000 Hold on, let's set this up.

00:29:51.000 So what was this?

00:29:52.000 Okay.

00:29:55.000 Can I preface this with something?

00:29:58.000 We're not undercover journalists.

00:29:59.000 We do a late night show.

00:30:01.000 That's what we do.

00:30:01.000 We do the monologue, we do jokes, sketches, and we do interviews.

00:30:04.000 And then every now and then we stumble across something.

00:30:07.000 And when you're doing, for example, Antifa and they hand you a knife and they talk about shooting Ben Shapiro.

00:30:11.000 We'll talk about that too.

00:30:11.000 But the point is, and then when the media just lies about it, we feel compelled to.

00:30:16.000 This isn't our thing.

00:30:17.000 It just is one of many things.

00:30:18.000 In fact, this particular one was kind of a throwaway.

00:30:20.000 It was a throwaway.

00:30:20.000 We were joking.

00:30:21.000 It was a goof.

00:30:22.000 We didn't even bother with costumes.

00:30:23.000 We just walked inside we're queer.

00:30:24.000 It was what the healthcare transgender town hall. 1.00

00:30:26.000 It was like, oh my god.

00:30:28.000 It was a transgender town hall. 0.95

00:30:30.000 Transgender town hall.

00:30:30.000 Where was it at?

00:30:31.000 Vermont.

00:30:32.000 Vermont.

00:30:32.000 Burlington, Vermont.

00:30:33.000 Oh, that place is crazy.

00:30:34.000 Oh, I was in a plane with Bernie Sanders on the way there, too.

00:30:38.000 Give me your money. 0.98

00:30:40.000 I'm going to give it to the blacks. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Okay. 0.99

00:30:46.000 Carry money to the blacks. 1.00

00:30:47.000 It's a human right. 0.99

00:30:49.000 Let's play it.

00:30:49.000 Alright.

00:30:52.000 He's about six now.

00:30:53.000 He has said that it feels like a girl, prefers playing with dolls, and of course we don't want to discourage it.

00:30:58.000 We spoke with our primary care physician.

00:31:01.000 He said wait until the boy is fully developed.

00:31:05.000 That's Rex Blatt!

00:31:06.000 Wait fully developed is a little vague.

00:31:08.000 That's me.

00:31:09.000 And I would say a little inaccurate from the research I've done.

00:31:11.000 A little inaccurate from the research I've done.

00:31:13.000 It's so late.

00:31:14.000 The kid is just like, okay.

00:31:17.000 Get rid of the puberty blockers.

00:31:19.000 They just go through late puberty.

00:31:21.000 That's it.

00:31:21.000 Everything's still lined up.

00:31:23.000 There's no indication there's any damage.

00:31:25.000 That's not true.

00:31:26.000 Puberty blockers are not reversible.

00:31:27.000 Puberty blockers are not reversible.

00:31:29.000 That's the entire point.

00:31:30.000 That's not the point.

00:31:31.000 It's the opposite.

00:31:32.000 Someone at the pre-adolescent age going, It's gonna change the way your body develops.

00:31:40.000 No question at all. 0.99

00:31:42.000 Yeah, I mean there's no way giving a kid a puberty blocker, letting them go through life with a puberty blocker and then at 17 or whatever the fuck it is decide to take that shit off, you're gonna be the exact same human being you would have been without that. 0.97

00:31:52.000 These are the same people worried about a little estrogen in milk cartons. 0.99

00:31:55.000 Is it BPA-free plastic?

00:31:57.000 Because I don't want it to alter my hormones. 0.99

00:31:59.000 By the way, I'm gonna chop off my balls and do puberty blockers at 8. Well, this is, I mean, you can't let a kid make those decisions. 0.98

00:32:06.000 You can't make those decisions for a kid.

00:32:09.000 They're too young.

00:32:10.000 Can you just remember he had a wiener five minutes ago?

00:32:12.000 Yeah.

00:32:12.000 He's not thinking about these things.

00:32:13.000 No.

00:32:14.000 No, he's just picking his nose and wiping his booger off on the couch three minutes ago and now you're letting him decide his hormonal profile.

00:32:20.000 Yeah, the idea that a child who's six years old or whatever would know the consequences, but them saying that 18 is too late and that they would disagree with your primary care physician that it's too young based on the research that I've done. 0.96

00:32:34.000 What fucking research have you done where you can clearly point that it's a good idea to transition a six-year-old? 0.86

00:32:42.000 Well, that's a problem. 0.99

00:32:43.000 Here's another problem.

00:32:44.000 We don't know if YouTube is going to ban this video because of what you just said and what I just said.

00:32:48.000 Well, I guarantee you this video is going to get marked for demonetization.

00:32:51.000 Well, yeah.

00:32:51.000 The Jordan Peterson one just got flagged.

00:32:53.000 And we talked about this book.

00:32:55.000 We talked about the 12 rules for life.

00:32:57.000 We talked about guidelines for living a healthy...

00:33:00.000 Just started reading it.

00:33:01.000 It's a great book.

00:33:02.000 Let's keep going.

00:33:03.000 Officers, put a little more on this.

00:33:05.000 To understand themselves. 0.97

00:33:08.000 When the test will reach a particular diameter and the penis is developed enough, then there'll be enough. 0.84

00:33:14.000 If you're going to transition the other way, there'll be enough material to create a vision. 0.89

00:33:20.000 Oh, God!

00:33:20.000 Because that's the problem.

00:33:21.000 There'd be enough material to create a vagina if the testicles and the penis are developed enough. 1.00

00:33:27.000 Did you know this? 1.00

00:33:27.000 Did you know that unless your penis gets big enough, you can't get a fake vagina because there's not enough tissue to invert. 1.00

00:33:33.000 So this is him. 0.99

00:33:35.000 He's like, now if you decide to transition the other way, meaning if you decide to not transition...

00:33:40.000 Remember how everyone made fun of this...

00:33:42.000 The beauty pageant girl, when she was asked about gay marriage, she was like, gay marriage or opposite marriage, and everyone laughed. 0.99

00:33:48.000 And it was silly. 0.97

00:33:49.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:33:49.000 She was conservative, but it was silly. 0.99

00:33:50.000 But he's doing that right here.

00:33:51.000 Like, should you choose to transition or transition the other way? 1.00

00:33:54.000 You mean, should you choose to not cut off your penis? 1.00

00:33:57.000 That's transitioned the other way now? 0.99

00:33:59.000 Well, not only that, there's a lot of people in the transgender community that think it's offensive to assume that you have to get an operation, get your penis removed in order to be transgender. 0.96

00:34:07.000 I mostly don't. 0.59

00:34:07.000 So this guy is making this big assumption that this is what you have to do in order to transition. 0.59

00:34:12.000 I know a lot of people that are transgender that do not have the operation.

00:34:16.000 I don't know a lot of people.

00:34:17.000 I should say that.

00:34:19.000 I'm in a community-focused group with transgender people.

00:34:22.000 By the way, let me say this, too.

00:34:24.000 I'm 100% in favor of grown adults deciding to transition.

00:34:27.000 I think you should be able to tattoo your face, get nose rings. 0.99

00:34:30.000 I don't give a fuck what you do. 1.00

00:34:31.000 I really don't. 1.00

00:34:32.000 Yeah, but you're also asking the government to pay for your face tattoo.

00:34:34.000 Yes, that's true.

00:34:35.000 Well, and there was another thing.

00:34:38.000 Here, I'll send this to you, Jamie.

00:34:40.000 That was some research today that someone put out.

00:34:45.000 Here, let's play this and I'll forward this to you, Jamie.

00:34:48.000 I'll text this to you.

00:34:49.000 Keep playing.

00:34:49.000 That's it?

00:34:50.000 That's that clip.

00:34:51.000 I don't know.

00:34:52.000 But yeah, the thing is, that's a good example.

00:34:54.000 It's a public town hall, which we attend.

00:34:58.000 And it gets removed from YouTube because someone who handed us his business card, Rex Butt.

00:35:03.000 Hilarious, by the way.

00:35:05.000 The rest of us, we weren't nearly as mad about this as we were just doubled over in laughter at the guys named Rex Butt.

00:35:12.000 Do you think he had trouble securing the URL rights to his own agent?

00:35:16.000 That's a completely different website.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, I just sent this to you, Jamie, if you follow the tweet.

00:35:23.000 It is by Dr. Deborah So, and it is an article from the National Institute of Health Study, Dr. Zero Van Meter, a pediatric...

00:35:38.000 Oh no, and she's Asian. 1.00

00:35:40.000 Pediatric endocrinologist. 1.00

00:35:41.000 Well, she's anti all this stupid shit. 1.00

00:35:43.000 Well, I'm saying they don't give any leeway to Asians. 1.00

00:35:45.000 It's the minority group that they actually get more crap. 1.00

00:35:47.000 It's like, well, you have to be better than everyone to get into a good college because there are too many Asians. 1.00

00:35:50.000 To get into universities because there are so many really good ones.

00:35:51.000 Okay, Dr. Q Van Meter, a pediatric endocrinologist with extensive experience in gender dysphoria, which, by the way, is hate speech, says there is 0.0 evidence that the concepts of gender fluidity and gender identity have any scientific basis.

00:36:08.000 Yeah.

00:36:09.000 So, this is...

00:36:10.000 She includes 0.00.

00:36:12.000 That's the second zero there.

00:36:14.000 She's money. 1.00

00:36:14.000 She's thinking about cash. 1.00

00:36:15.000 Yeah.

00:36:16.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:36:17.000 She's thinking about cash money.

00:36:19.000 Well, I guess you could have 0.01%.

00:36:22.000 You could have one 100th.

00:36:23.000 She wanted to make sure there was no doubt.

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:25.000 She's burning those extra characters we just got.

00:36:27.000 She's like zeros, bro.

00:36:28.000 Yeah.

00:36:28.000 She's burning the extra 240 characters.

00:36:31.000 What's funny, though, is that you say, like, hate speech, gender dysphoria is still in the DSM-5.

00:36:35.000 What does that mean?

00:36:35.000 That's the psychiatric journal that they use, the reference book.

00:36:38.000 But they literally call it hate speech now.

00:36:40.000 Yeah, I know.

00:36:40.000 But it's the actual medical condition.

00:36:42.000 What's crazy in that undercover...

00:36:44.000 God bless my wife. 1.00

00:36:45.000 She went with us because we need other people to have hidden cameras.

00:36:47.000 And so she posed as a lesbian. 1.00

00:36:49.000 A movie kind of lesbian. 0.98

00:36:50.000 They're like, really?

00:36:51.000 You exist?

00:36:51.000 They weren't even hardly fooled.

00:36:53.000 They couldn't say anything.

00:36:54.000 Well, she, remember, said, like, I identify as someone with bigger breasts. 1.00

00:36:58.000 And she was asking how to get this covered under, you know, Medicare, Medicaid, because they were talking about getting all these operations.

00:37:03.000 And Mr. Rex, God bless him, Dr. Rex Butt was like, I think you should mention that, you know, talk about that gender dysphoria. 0.69

00:37:10.000 So for her, they use gender dysphoria to try and file it medically to get new tits on the taxpayer dime, but it was considered hate speech to say it to the transgenders in the room. 1.00

00:37:19.000 It's just crazy. 0.96

00:37:20.000 Like, you can't make sense of it.

00:37:21.000 And I don't need to make sense of it.

00:37:22.000 I just need to not be banned for talking about it.

00:37:24.000 She just wanted to be the woman she was meant to be.

00:37:25.000 Right. 1.00

00:37:26.000 Well, I mean, anything that you can mock is bullshit. 1.00

00:37:28.000 I mean, if you can mock it that openly, if that's that obvious, like getting bigger tits because you identify as someone with bigger tits, I mean, that's bullshit. 1.00

00:37:38.000 That's why it's so funny. 1.00

00:37:39.000 I don't think I've ever been more in love with my wife than when she did that.

00:37:42.000 We didn't expect it.

00:37:43.000 She looked at me.

00:37:44.000 She kind of nodded. 0.95

00:37:45.000 She's like, I've already identified as someone who has bigger breasts. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Well, did you see that guy that got busted molesting children and said he identifies as being a 60-year-old boy?

00:37:53.000 That was a really recent case.

00:37:55.000 I mean, people are trying this out when they get caught doing things.

00:37:59.000 And I'm not saying that there's not people out there that identify with being a man when they're actually a woman or vice-a-verse. 0.73

00:38:03.000 That's not what I'm saying. 1.00

00:38:05.000 But what I'm saying is there's a lot of fucking crazy people out there. 1.00

00:38:09.000 A lot. 1.00

00:38:09.000 And to deny that, just because it's dealing with gender. 1.00

00:38:13.000 We're in Narnia now.

00:38:15.000 We're in La La Land.

00:38:16.000 You're not being real.

00:38:18.000 No.

00:38:18.000 Well, let me ask you this.

00:38:19.000 Because, like you said, you're not right-wing.

00:38:21.000 I'm pretty open about the fact that I'm right-wing.

00:38:22.000 I remember watching your show a while back, and you had...

00:38:26.000 Little, little guy.

00:38:28.000 Little guy.

00:38:28.000 Jamie Kilstein?

00:38:29.000 Buck Angel.

00:38:30.000 Buck Angel.

00:38:30.000 Yeah.

00:38:31.000 Little guy that used to be a gal. 1.00

00:38:33.000 Yes.

00:38:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:38:34.000 And then I don't remember what I said, but it was the same kind of conversation we have here. 0.98

00:38:37.000 Like, I don't just go out and go, screw you, you're training. 0.96

00:38:39.000 I said, well, I just don't buy it. 0.99

00:38:40.000 And he wanted to get into a fight with me.

00:38:43.000 Like, he wanted to have a fight.

00:38:44.000 Like, let's fight about it.

00:38:44.000 When did this happen?

00:38:45.000 This was years ago, when he had him on the show.

00:38:46.000 A fresh shot of test.

00:38:47.000 Yeah.

00:38:49.000 Jacked.

00:38:50.000 He was huge at one time.

00:38:51.000 Oh, was he?

00:38:52.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:38:52.000 Got up to like 185, like super jacked, because just banging test in there and fucking lifting. 0.99

00:38:59.000 But he was saying that his joints hurt really bad when he was doing that. 0.96

00:39:03.000 It's almost like it's unnatural.

00:39:04.000 Crazy.

00:39:05.000 But back then, when you got him on. 0.75

00:39:07.000 Jacked.

00:39:09.000 Jacked! 1.00

00:39:09.000 If I had a role with that guy, I'd be like, fuck. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Alright, here we go. 1.00

00:39:14.000 No, come on. 0.85

00:39:15.000 You wouldn't have problems with that.

00:39:15.000 Try to be kind.

00:39:16.000 Yes, exactly.

00:39:17.000 But the point is, back then, let me ask you this.

00:39:19.000 Did you realize it was going to get as insane?

00:39:21.000 Or did you just think this is an interesting guest?

00:39:23.000 Well, he's a nice guy.

00:39:25.000 I'm more than willing to call him a man, and that was one of the things that I said.

00:39:28.000 I said, look, man, you're a person.

00:39:31.000 Whatever your name is, whether it's Buck or Fred or Wilma, I don't care.

00:39:36.000 Whatever you want to be called, I'll call you whatever noise that you connect with you as a being.

00:39:42.000 I'm fine with that.

00:39:43.000 And if you can explain to me where you feel happier being a man, I'm 100% in support of you doing that.

00:39:50.000 What drives me crazy is people making decisions for six-year-olds, people pushing six-year-olds in certain directions, and I know that this does happen, and I can't get too personal about this, but I have a friend who has an ex-wife that turned his child into a girl.

00:40:08.000 Yeah.

00:40:09.000 And, like, tried this and was pushing this. 0.99

00:40:14.000 And kids are very fucking pliable, man. 0.99

00:40:18.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:40:18.000 This is not... 0.99

00:40:19.000 I mean, maybe some boys would have rejected it.

00:40:22.000 Maybe he was leaning that way anyway.

00:40:23.000 But she was excited about it.

00:40:25.000 And this is something that a lot of people are excited about.

00:40:28.000 And we're talking about a 14-year-old.

00:40:29.000 Okay. 1.00

00:40:30.000 I mean, I just don't think you know who the fuck you are. 1.00

00:40:33.000 You know, what is that girl's name? 1.00

00:40:34.000 Ruby Rose?

00:40:35.000 Is that her name?

00:40:36.000 The attractive lesbian with the tattoos? 1.00

00:40:38.000 She said that when she was young, she wanted to transition.

00:40:42.000 And she's very happy that she didn't.

00:40:44.000 She wanted to become a man.

00:40:45.000 And she's very happy that she didn't, and she's a lesbian, and she's happy, and she's open, and super successful.

00:40:50.000 But she's advocating sort of the same thing that I'm saying. 0.97

00:40:53.000 It's like, let people become a goddamn adult, and then make these inalterable, life-changing decisions. 0.96

00:40:59.000 This guy's saying that hormone blockers can be turned off, and then you could go through a normal puberty. 1.00

00:41:05.000 You're out of your fucking mind. 1.00

00:41:07.000 I'm not a doctor, but I have enough understanding of biology to know that that's crazy. 1.00

00:41:12.000 That's just not true.

00:41:13.000 No, it's absolutely not true.

00:41:14.000 And that's one of those things... 0.98

00:41:15.000 Listen, anyone can get lost in the weeds and make someone look stupid with something specific. 0.98

00:41:19.000 You know, whether it's... 0.98

00:41:20.000 I mean, you were showing me that compound out there.

00:41:22.000 It's fasting.

00:41:23.000 I don't know anything about it. 1.00

00:41:24.000 I'm gonna be a moron. 1.00

00:41:25.000 You know, less than room temperature IQ. Some doctor can come in who's pro-transgender and explain something and make it sound like we don't know what we're talking about. 1.00

00:41:31.000 So when it comes to that...

00:41:32.000 See, I don't agree with you there.

00:41:34.000 I don't agree with you on that.

00:41:35.000 You could use some terms we wouldn't know, right?

00:41:36.000 It doesn't matter.

00:41:37.000 What terms are there that you don't know about a child's biological development?

00:41:42.000 Well, what they point to is, well, actually, there are these studies that show that the brain alterations occur before across hormone sex replacement therapy, and it's actually not true.

00:41:50.000 So we had a few transgender people on our show.

00:41:51.000 But the point is, whether it's a conspiracy or this, you say, okay, I'm not a doctor.

00:41:55.000 And I can't just appeal to authority.

00:41:58.000 I can't just say, this doctor says X. So I do have to, at this point, accepting that I'm not a doctor, accept the preponderance of evidence from the overall medical community And combine that with the anecdotal, and combine that with, is there a motive here?

00:42:12.000 Is there an agenda here?

00:42:13.000 Like a lot of conspiracy theories, it just doesn't add up.

00:42:16.000 Who benefits from telling you, you know, the world is flat?

00:42:19.000 Who benefits from it?

00:42:20.000 Now, I can understand how someone might benefit from a conspiracy where it's like, oh, they make a lot of money off of this, or was it Tim Kennedy as a hunting Hitler thing?

00:42:28.000 I'm not saying, but it's like, okay, I understand after war, they thought maybe they had Hitler, and they needed the healing for the country.

00:42:33.000 Okay, I can understand that.

00:42:34.000 But with this?

00:42:36.000 It just doesn't add up.

00:42:37.000 None of the arguments they present add up.

00:42:39.000 There's no way for millennial parents to whack off. 1.00

00:42:41.000 Turning each of their children into social experiments. 0.98

00:42:44.000 It's disgusting.

00:42:45.000 Medical experiments.

00:42:45.000 That was Owen Benjamin's take.

00:42:47.000 Owen Benjamin's take was that this guy in Hollywood, I don't remember who it is, who was talking about transitioning his three-year-old. 1.00

00:42:53.000 And he was like, you're a fucking monster. 1.00

00:42:55.000 And he was getting in trouble for this. 1.00

00:42:57.000 He lost his manager for this.

00:42:58.000 It started on our show, because he writes for our show now.

00:43:00.000 We bring him in on Skype, and we just sit and we kind of brainstorm.

00:43:02.000 And he wasn't really out of the closet.

00:43:05.000 Remember at that point?

00:43:06.000 And I said, Owen, I don't think you want this.

00:43:07.000 Because I had lost my manager and my agent.

00:43:08.000 I'm like, I don't think you want this kind of heat.

00:43:10.000 Out of the closet as a conservative?

00:43:12.000 Yeah, out of the closet as a conservative in the industry.

00:43:14.000 It's a real thing.

00:43:15.000 That's hilarious.

00:43:16.000 He's like, yeah, man.

00:43:16.000 I don't think you want this kind of heat.

00:43:19.000 And he talked about it on our show first.

00:43:21.000 And it was almost like he was spitballing because then he tweeted something that was really funny from the show.

00:43:26.000 And then this just all hell broke loose.

00:43:28.000 And I was like, I mean, I told you that's what was going to happen.

00:43:30.000 And so now he's just full bore because you can't put that back in the bottle.

00:43:35.000 And that's the crazy thing.

00:43:36.000 Owen was the quintessential non-political, just sort of happy-go-lucky comedian.

00:43:41.000 It's totally changed him now.

00:43:42.000 If you see his act, it's hysterical.

00:43:44.000 Listen, I know.

00:43:45.000 Owen kind of did that on this show.

00:43:47.000 I mean, that's one of the things that happened.

00:43:49.000 Like, on this show, we were just talking about all the various things.

00:43:52.000 And also, he was talking about his dad being flamboyant and his mom being kind of masculine.

00:43:56.000 And he grew up in this weird environment.

00:43:58.000 And, you know, he's just...

00:44:00.000 He's a great guy.

00:44:01.000 This is his take on things. 1.00

00:44:04.000 He loves to talk shit on Twitter. 0.99

00:44:06.000 He loves to stir things up. 1.00

00:44:08.000 And he does it too much.

00:44:09.000 I told him the exact same thing.

00:44:11.000 I was like, Owen...

00:44:13.000 Take it down! 1.00

00:44:15.000 Love you, Owen!

00:44:17.000 Yeah, I sent him a text the other day.

00:44:19.000 I go, first of all, why are your texts coming to me green?

00:44:22.000 I go, just flitch to a flip phone.

00:44:24.000 He goes, yeah.

00:44:25.000 I go, are you addicted to your phone?

00:44:26.000 He goes, yes. 1.00

00:44:26.000 I go, dude, you're fucking crazy. 1.00

00:44:29.000 Which is great, which most comedians are in some way crazy. 1.00

00:44:32.000 But I'm like, you're tweeting too much.

00:44:34.000 He's like, you're right.

00:44:35.000 I've got to walk away from it.

00:44:36.000 Well, he'll tweet me.

00:44:37.000 He'll tweet me this whole thing about transgenderism or something.

00:44:39.000 He'll be tweeting about reality from the left.

00:44:41.000 And then I'll respond.

00:44:43.000 And then I don't hear anything back.

00:44:44.000 And I'm like, oh, sorry.

00:44:45.000 I was out chopping trees.

00:44:47.000 Yeah, literally.

00:44:50.000 His brother's an arborist and he helps his brother. 0.99

00:44:52.000 I mean, he's literally on fucking 20 feet up with the ropes and shit. 0.99

00:44:57.000 He shipped me maple syrup for Christmas. 0.99

00:44:59.000 Did he?

00:44:59.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 Owen's a great guy.

00:45:01.000 The problem is with Owen, when we get in the same room, Jared, someone else has to manage us because...

00:45:06.000 Bing, bing, bing! 0.96

00:45:07.000 You know, we're both crazy.

00:45:07.000 But I love him.

00:45:08.000 I hate that that happened to him, too.

00:45:11.000 You and I had that conversation.

00:45:12.000 I just feel that what Owen needs to do is do a podcast and get his, you know, just get his stuff out there more.

00:45:21.000 And he'll find his own audience. 0.94

00:45:22.000 He doesn't need all this other shit. 0.99

00:45:24.000 You know, there's an illusion in Hollywood that you need to be cast in things. 0.99

00:45:28.000 You need to be cast-able.

00:45:30.000 And this cast-able thing, and I've said this...

00:45:33.000 One of the reasons why I have no actor friends is because I have a couple that I'm friendly with, but as my inner circle of people I hang around with on a regular basis, comics and fighters and just people that I know, they deal in reality.

00:45:47.000 The actors are always trying to get cast in things, and there's a dynamic that occurs when you're always trying to get cast in things where you never want to say anything that's controversial.

00:45:55.000 You don't want to have any opinions that don't fit into the standard, acceptable, digestible Hollywood dogma.

00:46:03.000 Whatever it is.

00:46:04.000 And it's always left wing.

00:46:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:06.000 Look at what happened with Tim Allen. 1.00

00:46:07.000 He came out as right wing and they canceled his fucking show. 1.00

00:46:10.000 They're like, fuck you and fuck your show. 1.00

00:46:12.000 And he was a John Kasich guy. 1.00

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 You don't have to be alt-right.

00:46:15.000 John Kasich.

00:46:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:46:16.000 As big of a pussy as the Republican Party as ever known. 1.00

00:46:20.000 A moderate Republican, but still right-wing enough where they're like, fuck you. 1.00

00:46:24.000 A moderate, but he's just a wiener. 1.00

00:46:26.000 Saying you just like to touch little boys.

00:46:27.000 Like, it just ruins your career.

00:46:29.000 It's disappointing.

00:46:29.000 You wouldn't have to make a YouTube video about it.

00:46:31.000 Show them what you suggested feed.

00:46:33.000 What are you talking about?

00:46:33.000 House of Cards.

00:46:34.000 Kevin Spacey.

00:46:35.000 Oh, he never...

00:46:36.000 It's crazy.

00:46:37.000 Well, House of...

00:46:37.000 That's a...

00:46:38.000 He's a different animal.

00:46:40.000 That's a different animal.

00:46:41.000 I never met him, but I guess that has been the thing about him forever.

00:46:47.000 But here's the thing.

00:46:48.000 This is like what Milo talked about, okay?

00:46:50.000 And this is all very taboo stuff, but in the gay community, it's far more acceptable for a man to be dating a 15-, 16-, 17-year-old boy that's openly gay than it is in the straight community.

00:47:02.000 In the straight community, if you find out that a 40-year-old man is dating a 14-year-old girl. 1.00

00:47:08.000 That guy is a piece of shit, and he should be locked in a fucking cage. 1.00

00:47:12.000 But if you find out that in the gay community, it's not thought of the same. 1.00

00:47:19.000 It's different strokes.

00:47:20.000 I mean, I can name you several people when we worked in Canadian TV, particularly makeup artists who were like, no, be careful, Michelle likes them young.

00:47:26.000 Ha ha ha ha.

00:47:27.000 It was a common thing.

00:47:29.000 I'm not at all saying it's acceptable with Kevin Spacey, but what I am saying is what bothers me is the same thing with the Me Too campaign.

00:47:36.000 Like Meryl Streep coming out, everyone coming out with the Harvey Weinstein thing.

00:47:38.000 Germ, right?

00:47:39.000 Germ. 1.00

00:47:39.000 Piece of crap. 1.00

00:47:40.000 Get it. 1.00

00:47:40.000 We all know. 1.00

00:47:41.000 But not one person.

00:47:44.000 They all come out like, yeah, he tried to do that with Me Too.

00:47:46.000 Not one person came out and said, yeah, I got three Oscars. 1.00

00:47:49.000 I did it, bitch! 1.00

00:47:51.000 No one. 1.00

00:47:51.000 No one admitted. 1.00

00:47:53.000 No one.

00:47:53.000 Just like no one else is saying, yeah, you know, it's a well-known secret.

00:47:56.000 This happens a lot in Hollywood.

00:47:57.000 There are a lot of guys with young 15-year-old boys.

00:48:00.000 It's super common.

00:48:00.000 You go to the right bar here in Los Angeles.

00:48:03.000 Well, the Bryan Singer thing, right?

00:48:05.000 Right.

00:48:06.000 Bryan Singer, there's photos of his party.

00:48:08.000 There's a pool filled with boys.

00:48:09.000 Like, literally. 0.96

00:48:10.000 And what's fucked up about it is there's red lights in the pool. 0.95

00:48:13.000 And we had a field day with it. 0.97

00:48:15.000 You could imagine where we imagined the blood came from.

00:48:19.000 But there's literally a red pool filled with young hairless boys.

00:48:24.000 They weren't hiding it.

00:48:25.000 No.

00:48:26.000 That's the thing.

00:48:26.000 They didn't have to.

00:48:27.000 No.

00:48:28.000 It's fully accepted.

00:48:29.000 That's why the fake outrage bothers me.

00:48:31.000 I don't think it's a fake outrage.

00:48:33.000 I think...

00:48:34.000 Selective.

00:48:35.000 Yes.

00:48:36.000 From the left in Hollywood, not America.

00:48:37.000 Yes. 0.84

00:48:38.000 And America is outraged that Kevin Spacey's shtupin' 14-year-old boys.

00:48:41.000 Well, I think it wasn't just that. 0.98

00:48:42.000 I think what really got Kevin in trouble was not just the initial story, but then that he was grabbing dicks on the set, and he was just... 0.94

00:48:50.000 He would get... 0.91

00:48:51.000 There's the red pool.

00:48:52.000 I mean, come on, son.

00:48:53.000 Oh, jeez.

00:48:54.000 I mean, if that was a bunch of gals, and you were a free-spirited... 1.00

00:48:56.000 That's just an X-Men forecasting party.

00:48:58.000 That'd be a boldly painting video for YouTube.

00:49:01.000 This is all Wolverine's next victims.

00:49:03.000 LAUGHTER Let's see what you guys look like.

00:49:06.000 It was a casting party for the first class.

00:49:09.000 But what Milo was saying when he was on the podcast, which ultimately got him in a lot of trouble and lost his...

00:49:17.000 And then also he was saying it on that other podcast that he did with The Amazing Atheist.

00:49:22.000 I forget what they call their podcast.

00:49:24.000 Do you know that podcast?

00:49:25.000 I just know Milo got in trouble.

00:49:28.000 Scoundrels or something?

00:49:29.000 Something like that, yeah.

00:49:30.000 Jamie will find it when he comes back from the bathroom.

00:49:32.000 Oh, he's gone?

00:49:32.000 He just bolted to the bathroom.

00:49:34.000 But what he was saying essentially was that when you're a young boy and you're gay, you can have a very positive relationship with an older man who acts as a mentor.

00:49:43.000 And that was extremely controversial and that ultimately cost him.

00:49:46.000 And he was also saying that he had that done to him.

00:49:49.000 On my podcast, that's what he said, that when he was young, he was molested.

00:49:52.000 But he said, he goes, please, he goes, I was a predator.

00:49:55.000 Believe me, I was the predator.

00:49:57.000 Well, you know what?

00:49:57.000 It's the difference with someone who hasn't done stand-up.

00:49:59.000 They don't know where that line is.

00:50:00.000 Yes.

00:50:00.000 You know what I mean?

00:50:00.000 Like, you know that if you try working that out in the club and you're like, believe me, I was a predator, the crowd is going to go from laughing to, uh, what?

00:50:07.000 Oh, that's the line.

00:50:08.000 Now I scale it back.

00:50:09.000 But he's 14. If you're 14 and you're saying that you were the predator and you're the guy on stage, you're not the man who's talking about a 14-year-old boy that you want to fuck. 1.00

00:50:20.000 You're talking about you being 14 and loving the fact that a priest molested you and that you went after him. 1.00

00:50:26.000 I was a predator.

00:50:27.000 You know, when he was saying that, it was...

00:50:29.000 Don't do that.

00:50:29.000 It's very off-putting.

00:50:30.000 Don't do that.

00:50:32.000 She's beautiful.

00:50:33.000 She's wise.

00:50:35.000 She has an amazing smile.

00:50:37.000 What he does is a lot of it is shtick and like it's sort of like a gonzo journalism type thing right like you don't know when where's the shtick where's your real feelings on these things and then where is the distinction between how Some heterosexual people look at this and some gay people look at this.

00:50:57.000 Because I think the spectrum is different. 0.99

00:51:00.000 Like, the spectrum of heterosexual people that think it's acceptable for a grown man to have sex with a 14-year-old is fucking very small. 0.99

00:51:07.000 Like, insanely small, backwoods. 0.99

00:51:10.000 Yeah, there's no straight Nambla with political clout. 1.00

00:51:13.000 Exactly.

00:51:14.000 Exactly.

00:51:15.000 You know.

00:51:16.000 No one has a Nambla bumper sticker but for straight people.

00:51:18.000 Is Nambla real anymore?

00:51:19.000 Is that still real?

00:51:19.000 It is a real thing.

00:51:20.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:51:21.000 Yeah, someone tried to say I was a member of Nambla at one point on YouTube and suggested feed, and I was like, okay, alright. 1.00

00:51:25.000 I don't think that one's gonna stick.

00:51:27.000 I mean, it's so out.

00:51:28.000 It's like pick something and scale it back.

00:51:30.000 Now it is.

00:51:30.000 Now they're gonna reignite it.

00:51:31.000 It's never gonna.

00:51:32.000 We got to them.

00:51:33.000 We got to them.

00:51:34.000 That was the one.

00:51:34.000 The Nambla thing.

00:51:35.000 Do a little bit of this.

00:51:36.000 What is that?

00:51:37.000 Don't you know?

00:51:38.000 That's Jehovah. 0.98

00:51:39.000 That's Jay-Z, bro.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, Illuminati.

00:51:40.000 We meet on Tuesdays.

00:51:41.000 Oh, Illuminati.

00:51:42.000 I always forget.

00:51:43.000 Every now and then.

00:51:44.000 Jay-Z, he's the Illuminati, I heard.

00:51:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:46.000 Yeah, he's the Illuminati, I heard.

00:51:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, he's the Illuminati, I heard.

00:51:48.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, he's the Illuminati, I heard.

00:51:50.000 Yeah.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, Elon Musk meets him, but he has to show up secret.

00:51:55.000 Here's one thing I will say.

00:51:56.000 This is why people say you're right-wing.

00:51:59.000 I'm not saying you are, so let me preface it.

00:52:01.000 The reason they are, there is no leftist show out there.

00:52:05.000 You say, which leftist shows?

00:52:05.000 They're not having this discussion.

00:52:06.000 It doesn't exist.

00:52:07.000 There is the wild progressive left and the people who get in line.

00:52:11.000 There is not enough of a contingency today.

00:52:14.000 Put it this way.

00:52:15.000 James Damore let go for what he wrote.

00:52:17.000 On Google, not a single person we asked at the YouTube conference had ever owned a gun or knew someone who owned a gun.

00:52:24.000 YouTube, Google, Facebook, NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, all of them, none of them are standing up and having this conversation saying even the highly controversial issue of puberty blockers, with which most people disagree, they just go, puberty blockers, a new topic of discussion, they go, the left cannot have this conversation because you have to draw the line before puberty blockers.

00:52:44.000 You have to draw the line at how far do we have to play along with your delusion.

00:52:48.000 Doesn't mean I don't like Buck Angel.

00:52:49.000 Doesn't mean we don't have Blair White in our YouTube Carol video and are very nice with her.

00:52:53.000 He was very against actual puberty blockers.

00:52:55.000 Yeah, very against them.

00:52:56.000 And also untransformed in the nether regions.

00:53:00.000 Blair White?

00:53:01.000 Yeah.

00:53:02.000 See, that's what we were...

00:53:03.000 Wanted to ask?

00:53:06.000 Her boyfriend discussed it.

00:53:08.000 Super cool dude, by the way.

00:53:09.000 Seems like a nice guy.

00:53:11.000 But you're always asking questions.

00:53:13.000 You're not allowed to.

00:53:17.000 You're not allowed to.

00:53:18.000 Why can't he ask questions?

00:53:19.000 As soon as they leave the room, you're like...

00:53:22.000 Why can't you just ask? 1.00

00:53:25.000 What the fuck, man? 0.99

00:53:26.000 I mean, that's as open as possible. 1.00

00:53:29.000 You're saying you used to be a man and now you're a woman. 0.83

00:53:31.000 It's all on the table now, baby.

00:53:33.000 What could possibly be offensive after that?

00:53:35.000 Or more interesting, we're talking about that.

00:53:36.000 Sure.

00:53:37.000 Well, the reason is because my mom, who did wardrobe for the Just for Laughs and a lot of Canadian sitcoms, so she does wardrobe for us now as we've grown and do these sketches.

00:53:43.000 And so Blair White was the ghost of Christmas Past in this parody that we did.

00:53:47.000 And so my mom had to go in and... 1.00

00:53:49.000 Do wardrobe and fitting.

00:53:51.000 So she had some questions.

00:53:53.000 And my mom comes back to me, she's like, no, I think she had the, I don't think she has that anymore.

00:53:58.000 I'm like, well, why?

00:53:59.000 Because she said, you know, I did all this work. 0.92

00:54:01.000 I'm like, but mom, I could just, I mean, you know, she clearly has breasts. 1.00

00:54:04.000 Pits and lips. 0.97

00:54:05.000 She's like, no, I don't know.

00:54:07.000 But I, you know, I don't know with the pants when we fit.

00:54:10.000 I need snow.

00:54:12.000 This is not a conversation you want to have with your mom.

00:54:15.000 That's another hilarious character you do, is that socialist French guy.

00:54:18.000 Oh, the Montreal guy.

00:54:21.000 You know, Bernie, we've had interviews with people.

00:54:24.000 Did you meet Bernie?

00:54:25.000 You said he was on a flight with you?

00:54:27.000 He was on a flight with me.

00:54:27.000 Did you take a selfie with him?

00:54:29.000 I put on my Socialisms for Figs shirt in the bathroom.

00:54:32.000 Here's what's so funny about Bernie Sanders.

00:54:33.000 Socialism for Figs? 0.99

00:54:35.000 Figs. 0.99

00:54:35.000 It says Figs because it got banned from Instagram. 0.99

00:54:37.000 So it has a little fig leaf.

00:54:39.000 It's the Chaga Bear thing. 1.00

00:54:40.000 Anyway, you'll see it.

00:54:41.000 You'll see it if you go to the store.

00:54:42.000 Point is, Bernie gets on the plane.

00:54:46.000 This is right after the debate with Ted Cruz, the healthcare debate, which did not go well for him.

00:54:50.000 And he doesn't even have a briefcase.

00:54:52.000 So you know he's not doing work.

00:54:53.000 He's going from D.C. to Burlington, Vermont, and he is, I swear to you, I took a picture, on the absolute last row of Economy Plus Plus, where that...

00:55:04.000 First-class curtain goes by.

00:55:05.000 Probably asked for that seat.

00:55:06.000 Because you know he can claim it.

00:55:07.000 Like, I don't fly first-class.

00:55:09.000 Like, you're worth five million dollars.

00:55:10.000 Has no entitlements.

00:55:11.000 You're sitting there with your 128 gigabyte iPad Pro.

00:55:14.000 I could see because I had the new bezel.

00:55:16.000 Yeah, the new bezel.

00:55:17.000 So I could see.

00:55:17.000 They're saving all the money to deal with his wife's lawsuit for tanking that college in Vermont.

00:55:22.000 I know that college, too.

00:55:23.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:55:24.000 That story is fucking crazy that it was a wild purchasing scheme That tanked the college. 0.97

00:55:30.000 They decided to expand the land and buy, and they tanked the college because of that. 0.99

00:55:34.000 Not picture that, but America.

00:55:35.000 It's hysterical. 1.00

00:55:36.000 But what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:55:37.000 You're overspending? 0.99

00:55:38.000 Yeah.

00:55:39.000 What do you mean?

00:55:39.000 Why do you sound surprised that the Sanders are overspending?

00:55:42.000 What we need to do is get the rich people to pay for this.

00:55:44.000 Well, what's funny, so I put on the shirt, and they're like, you have to take a picture.

00:55:47.000 At this point, it was, what, it was like 1230 in the morning?

00:55:49.000 I was on the way to the Burlington Trinity Town Hall.

00:55:52.000 And so I get off the plane.

00:55:54.000 And Bernie gets off the plane first.

00:55:56.000 Priority, plus, plus, plus.

00:55:57.000 But first class.

00:55:58.000 Didn't get the free cocktail, mind you.

00:55:59.000 How does he get off the plane first, then?

00:56:01.000 After first class.

00:56:02.000 First class, then him.

00:56:03.000 He gets off the plane second.

00:56:04.000 But he's in the back, back.

00:56:05.000 No, no, no, no.

00:56:05.000 First class, and then he's economy, plus, plus, plus.

00:56:08.000 Oh, so he's right on that order.

00:56:10.000 His foot sits in first class.

00:56:11.000 He is first class, everything but name only.

00:56:13.000 And you know he says that every debate.

00:56:15.000 Oh, I don't like my opponent.

00:56:16.000 I don't sit in first class.

00:56:17.000 All right, Bernie.

00:56:17.000 So he gets out first.

00:56:19.000 And I walk behind him.

00:56:20.000 And it was like, gosh, what's his name?

00:56:23.000 Brooks in Shawshank Redemption.

00:56:24.000 He was so old.

00:56:26.000 And everyone's walking down this path.

00:56:27.000 And he walks down this one hall by himself with his iPad Pro.

00:56:31.000 And I remember calling Jared.

00:56:32.000 I said, I can't do it.

00:56:33.000 I said, I can't get ready.

00:56:34.000 It's 1230 in the morning.

00:56:35.000 The guy looks like he's at death's door. 1.00

00:56:36.000 And I didn't want to be that jerk who cornered him. 0.99

00:56:38.000 I just wanted to talk with him. 1.00

00:56:39.000 I wasn't going to sandbag him.

00:56:40.000 But he looked so sad.

00:56:43.000 Well, his posture is so awful.

00:56:45.000 His neck sits in the middle of his sternum.

00:56:48.000 It's like Mr. Burns. 0.70

00:56:49.000 Like a turtle.

00:56:50.000 It's crazy.

00:56:51.000 It's like, man, you've got to sit up straight.

00:56:53.000 Like, that's not healthy.

00:56:54.000 You've got to be in pain all the time.

00:56:55.000 If your head is like that low, well, what are we going to do?

00:57:02.000 Economy! 0.99

00:57:02.000 We gotta give the money to the blacks so they can pay for my physical therapy! 0.99

00:57:05.000 And bail my wife out! 1.00

00:57:07.000 Income inequality!

00:57:08.000 He has a few buzzwords.

00:57:10.000 What I liked about him was that he seemed like a uniting force with white people and black people.

00:57:18.000 It seemed like he was doing interviews with Killer Mike, even though he's anti-gun.

00:57:24.000 And Mike is super pro-gun. 0.81

00:57:27.000 You know, I'm like, but I'm like, I like the fact that people are embracing this crazy old guy. 0.65

00:57:32.000 And they push him off the stage, though.

00:57:33.000 They push him off the stage.

00:57:34.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:57:35.000 He let them.

00:57:36.000 He let them.

00:57:37.000 So you mean he was the United Force.

00:57:38.000 He let them.

00:57:38.000 Come on.

00:57:39.000 That was a pussy move. 1.00

00:57:40.000 That was a pussy move. 1.00

00:57:41.000 That was not the platform. 0.99

00:57:42.000 I mean, if they wanted to have a meeting, they should have had a meeting.

00:57:45.000 You can't just jump up and scream.

00:57:47.000 You could have Killer Mike sitting in the White House in the office right now.

00:57:49.000 That'd be fine.

00:57:50.000 If he was president.

00:57:50.000 You just...

00:57:51.000 I'm president now.

00:57:52.000 You know, I think the problem is like, you know, even if you have people who are economic socialists who are on board with him, we have a lot of people who are pro-Bernie who then changed because they just said, well, then he went full SJW and the Black Lives Matter and feminism.

00:58:04.000 And that's why I say even if you find a leftist.

00:58:07.000 He's a politician.

00:58:08.000 Nobody believes that.

00:58:09.000 When you're in these town halls and they don't know, they all agree.

00:58:13.000 It really is a monolith.

00:58:14.000 And that's why they say you're right-wing, because the truth is, you could be considered right-wing, just like he could, just like I could, just like Jordan Peterson could, just like Milo could, just like Ben Schiff.

00:58:22.000 And all of us have wildly differing views.

00:58:24.000 If you were to check the box off with Chank, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, take your pick, they would check the same boxes, because they have to. 0.60

00:58:31.000 And I think that's why they're losing so much ground culturally.

00:58:34.000 And the boxes are shifting, too.

00:58:35.000 So where the right side is expanding all the different boxes you could possibly check, the left is shrinking.

00:58:40.000 You have to get in line with these things.

00:58:42.000 What we need is a real center.

00:58:44.000 And this country does not have a real center.

00:58:46.000 And I think that drives people to the left and to the right.

00:58:49.000 I think it's a big issue.

00:58:51.000 There's just too much toxic tribal thinking here.

00:58:56.000 I just think we need truth.

00:58:57.000 To me, I don't care if you're left or right, just don't lie to me.

00:59:00.000 And the left has been able to lie to everyone because they've controlled the information delivery for a long time.

00:59:06.000 And I know that sounds conspiratorial.

00:59:07.000 But it's right.

00:59:08.000 It's like what we're talking about with Tim Allen.

00:59:09.000 I mean, that is right.

00:59:11.000 I mean, it's what we're talking about with actors.

00:59:13.000 You talk to most actors when it comes to anything political.

00:59:17.000 They're almost all left-wing.

00:59:19.000 That doesn't even make sense.

00:59:20.000 They're terrified.

00:59:21.000 Exactly.

00:59:22.000 Yeah, they're terrified.

00:59:23.000 There are a few people, like we've had, you know, like Gary Sinise in the show, we've had some bigger name actors where they have screw you money where it doesn't matter.

00:59:28.000 Right.

00:59:29.000 But he's just the nicest guy ever where he didn't even talk about politics.

00:59:31.000 He just, you know, builds these smart homes for veterans just because he's like a saint.

00:59:36.000 Right.

00:59:36.000 But there are other actors we can't even necessarily name who are like, I'd really like to do the show, but, you know, I can't yet when I get to this stage in my career.

00:59:43.000 I'm sure you've probably heard from those people, too.

00:59:45.000 Yeah.

00:59:45.000 They're afraid.

00:59:47.000 Yeah.

00:59:47.000 You know, I've had people like that that say, I want to go hunting.

00:59:50.000 And I'm like, yeah, well, let's let's film it.

00:59:52.000 No.

00:59:55.000 No.

00:59:55.000 I'm like, you don't want people to know that that's how you get your food?

00:59:58.000 I mean, do you know 97% of the country eats meat?

01:00:01.000 They're like, really?

01:00:01.000 Is it that high?

01:00:02.000 I'm like, yeah, it's that high.

01:00:04.000 You're paying for it, right?

01:00:05.000 So you're paying for the murder, you're cool with that, but you're not cool with doing it yourself.

01:00:09.000 He goes, no, I'm totally cool with it.

01:00:11.000 I just don't want anybody else to know.

01:00:12.000 I'm like, okay, well that's part of the problem because people don't want anybody else to know.

01:00:17.000 That's why it becomes so scary and taboo and very few people come out.

01:00:21.000 You know, it's just...

01:00:23.000 It's a lot of the same thing because it's like you're not willing to express your authentic self.

01:00:30.000 We're going to be at Virginia Tech, is it the 6th?

01:00:32.000 A week from today.

01:00:33.000 And already people getting ready on Facebook to protest.

01:00:36.000 You haven't even seen the show.

01:00:38.000 You don't even know what it is.

01:00:39.000 This is the first time we're going to take the show on the road and broadcast live.

01:00:41.000 I mean, it's just a powder keg because no one's allowed to think differently.

01:00:44.000 Picture collegiate campuses.

01:00:47.000 That's what the left, that's their utopia.

01:00:51.000 Listen, you brought us something that I think changed the way people look at social justice warriors.

01:00:57.000 That lady that was in the audience in Amherst was in Amherst.

01:01:02.000 Oh, Trigglypuff.

01:01:04.000 That was like a gift from the heavens.

01:01:06.000 That poor gal. 1.00

01:01:08.000 It was like somebody created the caricature.

01:01:10.000 Did you just assume her gender?

01:01:12.000 I did.

01:01:13.000 Dude, even that's a gamble.

01:01:14.000 That's a roll of the dice.

01:01:15.000 You shouldn't even be that confident. 1.00

01:01:16.000 I'm a pig. 0.97

01:01:19.000 But when she was screaming at you, I'm like, this is not real. 0.99

01:01:23.000 This is like butt wrecks.

01:01:25.000 This is not real. 0.82

01:01:26.000 No, wrecks butt. 0.95

01:01:26.000 It's even worse. 0.95

01:01:27.000 Same shit. 1.00

01:01:28.000 This is not real. 1.00

01:01:30.000 This can't be real.

01:01:31.000 This woman's not real. 0.90

01:01:32.000 This is like a caricature.

01:01:33.000 This is a Michael J. Fox movie from the 80s, where you're like, there's no way that's a real person.

01:01:38.000 Well, you remember how stressed I was about that?

01:01:40.000 Yeah.

01:01:40.000 Because here's the deal.

01:01:41.000 This was my first time.

01:01:42.000 I was there, and it was Milo and Christine Hoff Summers.

01:01:44.000 Now, at this point, I'd only...

01:01:46.000 Like NAC or Coca, when you would do college stuff.

01:01:49.000 So that was my experience with colleges, and I hated it.

01:01:51.000 But for the first time, I know now that people are going to be protesting to a significant degree.

01:01:57.000 And I just wanted to go out and do some— Kind of is their degree.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, do some—like I was telling them, like, I don't know what I do here because, like, they're just going to speak and lecture and I want to do just, you know, a 20-minute set.

01:02:05.000 It's really tough because if you don't acknowledge a heckler, if you don't acknowledge the person, but then when you come out and it's just Trigglypuff who doesn't have enough middle fingers to give, I've never given anyone the figure from the stage.

01:02:16.000 I realized immediately I'm not going to be able to do stand-up, and that was the rant that went viral, which I didn't expect.

01:02:23.000 I was like, I'm just going to stay, I'm just going to do my set, and then afterwards we'll do a Q&A. They wouldn't allow it.

01:02:28.000 And I just saw her and I just couldn't.

01:02:30.000 She looked like the broad from Monsters, Inc. 0.99

01:02:32.000 at the front desk.

01:02:33.000 I was just laughing.

01:02:33.000 She really did.

01:02:34.000 Yeah.

01:02:35.000 Poor gal. 1.00

01:02:36.000 And everyone wants to...

01:02:37.000 Here's the thing.

01:02:38.000 You know, I think it was my parents who maybe said this to me when I was young.

01:02:41.000 And I got cocky about something at one point.

01:02:43.000 And they said, don't ever brag because it keeps us from being able to brag for you.

01:02:49.000 Let someone else do it.

01:02:50.000 That's interesting.

01:02:51.000 Why it's worse.

01:02:51.000 That's a good way of putting it.

01:02:52.000 Same thing with Trigglypuff.

01:02:53.000 Did they say it with an accent?

01:02:54.000 Yes, we don't get to brag for you. 1.00

01:02:56.000 Does she have a penis? 1.00

01:02:57.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:03:00.000 She had the work done.

01:03:01.000 Well, think about this. 1.00

01:03:02.000 If Trigglypuff didn't come out there and keep it in speech on this campus, fuck you! 1.00

01:03:06.000 For about eight seconds. 1.00

01:03:07.000 She tuckered out pretty quick.

01:03:08.000 She tuckered out.

01:03:09.000 She didn't have the stamina.

01:03:09.000 She needs carbs.

01:03:11.000 If she didn't do that, we would always sit in there talking about how, if we just saw her, how we feel bad for her.

01:03:16.000 Yes.

01:03:17.000 Like, oh man, that girl, I hope she gets, you know what, I feel like we'd be sympathetic. 1.00

01:03:20.000 But you prevent, you preclude us from being empathetic when you act like an absolute piece of shit your whole life. 1.00

01:03:27.000 Like, all of a sudden, we've shut off this empathy for people. 1.00

01:03:31.000 Because of the way they behave.

01:03:33.000 We would all be like, oh man, poor girl.

01:03:34.000 I hope she finds a guy.

01:03:35.000 I'm sure she'll find a guy who likes him bigger, and she can get it together.

01:03:39.000 I've seen some people turn it around, but when she does that, you're just like, oh, I can't stand her. 1.00

01:03:43.000 BuzzFeed Boldy's hiring. 0.74

01:03:43.000 See, I thought it was so ridiculous that I didn't even think that way. 0.74

01:03:49.000 Obviously, I wasn't in the room while she was screaming at me while I was on the stage. 1.00

01:03:51.000 I probably would have been furious. 0.99

01:03:53.000 But sitting back, watching it from the comfort of my house, watching it on YouTube, I was like, what the fuck happened? 0.99

01:03:59.000 This poor kid. 0.99

01:04:01.000 This used to be someone, you know, as a person who has daughters, this is someone's baby.

01:04:05.000 And then it became this.

01:04:07.000 Someone didn't pay attention to her.

01:04:09.000 They fed her bad food. 0.57

01:04:12.000 And she's there by herself.

01:04:13.000 The whole thing was crazy.

01:04:15.000 Keep your hate speech off my camera.

01:04:16.000 Meanwhile, Christina Hoff Summers, by the way, couldn't be a nicer person. 1.00

01:04:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:21.000 And it was so funny watching her with you and Milo.

01:04:24.000 And she's like, well, I wouldn't say that.

01:04:25.000 Well, I'm not necessarily saying that.

01:04:28.000 Yeah, the Islam stuff, she got uncomfortable.

01:04:31.000 She couldn't be a nicer lady. 0.99

01:04:32.000 I really love her.

01:04:33.000 She's really sweet.

01:04:34.000 Well, think about that.

01:04:35.000 We're on there.

01:04:35.000 She's basically kind of a lifelong Democrat.

01:04:37.000 Feminist.

01:04:38.000 She's branded right-wing now, probably. 1.00

01:04:39.000 She's branded right-wing. 1.00

01:04:40.000 She's branded alt-right.

01:04:41.000 She is a super feminist, but she calls herself the factual feminist.

01:04:46.000 And her idea is that when you distort reality, when you distort biology, when you distort facts, you are doing your cause a disservice, which is her cause, being an actual feminist. 1.00

01:04:56.000 She's a real feminist, and she doesn't think there's anything wrong with being a woman. 1.00

01:04:59.000 She doesn't think there's anything wrong with wearing dresses, putting on makeup or lipstick.

01:05:04.000 You're a woman.

01:05:05.000 There's probably two boxes she didn't check in the left column.

01:05:08.000 Right.

01:05:09.000 Yeah.

01:05:09.000 Right.

01:05:09.000 And by the way, she doesn't think there's anything wrong with not doing that either.

01:05:12.000 Right. 0.98

01:05:12.000 She's very open-minded, but she calls bullshit. 0.98

01:05:16.000 And because she calls bullshit on that group, she's shoved into this fucking Nazi category, which is so crazy to me. 1.00

01:05:24.000 Well, and the danger with that is, let's say, 10 years down the line, right? 1.00

01:05:27.000 You refer to me as a Nazi.

01:05:29.000 You refer to Joe Rogan as a Nazi.

01:05:30.000 Naki Jared as a Nazi.

01:05:31.000 Christine Hoff Summers.

01:05:32.000 You know what happens?

01:05:33.000 Is when you refer to someone as a Nazi for reasonable use for just long enough, they start saying, okay, you know what?

01:05:38.000 Let's go with Nazi. 0.99

01:05:39.000 And people actually go further, the pendulum swings further the other way.

01:05:42.000 That's what you're seeing with Europe.

01:05:43.000 That's what you're seeing with this far-right rise.

01:05:45.000 Because, you know, Sven Computer, who works for us, we brought him over from Germany.

01:05:48.000 There's a certain point where young people don't want to go to every museum and go, yeah, we suck because we've had nothing to do with it.

01:05:54.000 Do you realize in Germany, you pay 65% income tax if you're under the age of 30?

01:05:58.000 But school is free.

01:05:59.000 Think about that for a second.

01:06:01.000 65%?

01:06:02.000 It's 50, but Sven was telling us there's some additional, it's basically 65%, and it's entirely based on your age bracket.

01:06:07.000 You're under 30, you pay 65%.

01:06:09.000 That's your effective tax rate.

01:06:11.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:06:13.000 That's a lot of money, man.

01:06:14.000 I know!

01:06:15.000 That hurts.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, but that's what you see.

01:06:17.000 You see this far-right rise in Europe.

01:06:19.000 Because if you call someone a Nazi for so long, you're like, well, hold on a second, I'm not a Nazi.

01:06:22.000 I just don't want Paris to become a rape then.

01:06:25.000 Yeah, well, when you go from calling someone a Nazi and then you see Charlottesville, when you see guys with Nazi tattoos, you go, oh, well, that's a Nazi. 0.57

01:06:33.000 Exactly. 0.54

01:06:33.000 This is a real Nazi. 0.54

01:06:34.000 This is a moron with a swastika tattooed on his chest. 1.00

01:06:38.000 And a Dodge Challenger. 1.00

01:06:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:40.000 All this craziness left and right, I'm just hoping it settles.

01:06:45.000 And what you said, truth.

01:06:48.000 That's what I like.

01:06:49.000 I like truth.

01:06:49.000 I don't think...

01:06:50.000 You know, that's where I always...

01:06:51.000 You know, I know people get upset.

01:06:53.000 I don't think truth is necessarily in the middle.

01:06:55.000 I think truth is truth.

01:06:56.000 And sometimes it's really far to the right, and sometimes it's in the middle.

01:06:59.000 I don't think that there's much truth in today's progressive left.

01:07:02.000 No, I think there's an ideological war going on.

01:07:05.000 And I think, especially with Trump in office, they feel like the gloves are off and all rules are out the window and anything goes.

01:07:11.000 I think people are flabbergasted.

01:07:13.000 And I was telling Jamie before the show, like, I'm not... 0.99

01:07:17.000 I'm not without my criticisms for Trump, but I gotta admit, every time stuff just rolls off his back like water on a duck, I start fucking laughing. 0.95

01:07:25.000 They were like, this Stormy Daniels thing is gonna sink him. 1.00

01:07:27.000 I have a friend of mine who's gay and he's the nicest guy in the world, but he's so ridiculous. 1.00

01:07:33.000 He's like, that's our Monica Lewinsky. 0.99

01:07:35.000 She's our Monica Lewinsky. 0.99

01:07:36.000 I go, dude, it's not gonna work.

01:07:37.000 I go, no one's gonna care.

01:07:39.000 It's gonna disappear in a couple weeks ago.

01:07:41.000 We're in a 10-hour news cycle.

01:07:43.000 Do you understand this? 0.99

01:07:43.000 I go in 10 hours, some new shit comes along, and nobody gives a fuck about Brett Ratner anymore. 0.99

01:07:47.000 And nobody gives a fuck about this guy. 0.99

01:07:49.000 And there's a new guy. 0.97

01:07:50.000 And there's a new thing.

01:07:51.000 And there's a new problem.

01:07:52.000 And there's a new theory.

01:07:52.000 There's a new thing!

01:07:54.000 And you're saying that this porn star thing...

01:07:56.000 This is not 1994. This porn star thing is not gonna sink him.

01:08:00.000 He's gonna deny it.

01:08:01.000 Fake news!

01:08:02.000 Fake news!

01:08:02.000 And he's gonna keep moving, and there's gonna be nothing.

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:06.000 I don't even know what happened with that exactly, but to me, I was, remember, I just was like, I gotta disconnect for a bit, because I've been just going, going, going, so I disconnected, and I kind of popped my head in for half a day, just because we're moving to a new studio, kind of like you've been doing, and I popped my head in, and I was like, what's the news?

01:08:19.000 What's this outrage right now?

01:08:20.000 Do I need to know about Donald Trump? 0.93

01:08:21.000 And they said, no, yeah, he called Haiti a shithole. 0.87

01:08:25.000 And I just pop my head back on. 0.89

01:08:26.000 I'm like, of course it is!

01:08:27.000 That's it!

01:08:27.000 No one cares anymore!

01:08:28.000 It's like, of course Haiti is a sh... 1.00

01:08:29.000 It doesn't mean you hate Haitians! 0.99

01:08:31.000 He said, why do these people from these shithole countries want to come here? 1.00

01:08:34.000 That's what he supposedly said. 0.90

01:08:36.000 He says he didn't say it.

01:08:38.000 Some people say he did.

01:08:40.000 Other people say he didn't.

01:08:41.000 Who cares?

01:08:42.000 So we're in a weird quagmire.

01:08:43.000 Yeah, if he says that...

01:08:45.000 Let's say he did.

01:08:45.000 Let's say he did!

01:08:46.000 Yeah, it's not the appropriate thing for the President of the United States to say, but does it make sense that Donald Trump would say that?

01:08:53.000 Yes.

01:08:53.000 Well, no, no, no, no, no.

01:08:54.000 You want to know how you know it's a shithole? 1.00

01:08:56.000 Because French Canadians are some of the most racist people you will find. 1.00

01:08:59.000 Love you, Mom. 0.99

01:09:00.000 But they create these French laws.

01:09:01.000 I've talked about this before.

01:09:02.000 Pure Len, it means pure wool, because they want to get rid of all the Anglophones, right? 0.87

01:09:05.000 And so then they had a huge Haitian immigration, because there's a lot of, you know, French, and people from Cameroon.

01:09:08.000 And they were furious.

01:09:11.000 So they tried to create laws to keep the Haitians out, because it was just a clash of cultures.

01:09:16.000 Here's the thing. 1.00

01:09:17.000 Haiti is, whether Donald Trump said it or not, as a country, a shitty place. 1.00

01:09:22.000 And I don't think anyone cares anymore. 1.00

01:09:23.000 It doesn't mean I hate Haitians.

01:09:25.000 It doesn't mean I'm not empathetic to them.

01:09:27.000 But how is it racist?

01:09:28.000 They're very unfortunate that they're in a bad place. 0.99

01:09:29.000 Yeah, but how is it racist if especially you're criticizing a government which comprises of black people who are screwing a black citizenry? 1.00

01:09:36.000 They've been doing it for decades. 0.98

01:09:37.000 They've never gotten it right.

01:09:38.000 But Rayden Wilson took a picture from Sandals.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, he took a picture from Club Med.

01:09:43.000 Sandals.

01:09:44.000 Most people don't even know what that is.

01:09:46.000 The resort.

01:09:47.000 Is that still a thing?

01:09:47.000 That's so funny.

01:09:49.000 Yeah, that's a thing.

01:09:50.000 It's in the Bahamas, I think.

01:09:51.000 Jamaica?

01:09:52.000 I think it's one of those places. 0.88

01:09:53.000 No locale and a couple of the other shitholes.

01:09:56.000 I mean, I just like it's one of those things where I think if nothing else Donald Trump has allowed people and we weren't Trump but people we got so much flack from the alt-right because we didn't support Donald Trump.

01:10:06.000 Right, I remember that and you were more in support of Ted Cruz, right?

01:10:10.000 I liked Carly Fiorina. 1.00

01:10:11.000 And Ben Shapiro.

01:10:12.000 I mean Ben Carson.

01:10:14.000 A little bit, right?

01:10:15.000 I just thought he was hysterical.

01:10:16.000 Well, he's a smart guy.

01:10:17.000 He's adorable.

01:10:19.000 Also crazy.

01:10:20.000 Yeah, he's like a Jim Hansen character.

01:10:21.000 My favorite thing was him with Jesus, the painting.

01:10:23.000 Jesus on his shoulder, hanging on to him.

01:10:26.000 I'm like, whoa, Ben.

01:10:27.000 It's like you can be a neurosurgeon.

01:10:29.000 You're an absolute genius in that, but you don't have the sense of like, maybe I shouldn't put Jesus on my shoulder like a macaw.

01:10:35.000 Well, Jordan Peterson said something that's very brilliant.

01:10:37.000 He said, there is absolutely no correlation with being smart and being wise.

01:10:42.000 It's true.

01:10:43.000 It's true. 0.97

01:10:44.000 There's a lot of people that are really fucking smart at things, but they are not wise in terms of how they behave and how they think and how they conduct their life and whether or not they pay for a Jesus painting when he's holding their shoulder. 0.97

01:10:57.000 It doesn't even look like Jesus. 0.99

01:10:58.000 It looks like a Puerto Rican.

01:11:00.000 Looks like some dude is slinging tacos.

01:11:03.000 It's a crazy painting.

01:11:04.000 It's so bad.

01:11:06.000 Is this new, the sky up here?

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:07.000 That's nice.

01:11:08.000 Well, everything's new.

01:11:09.000 We used to have stars, but the panels were too dark in this room because the lighting is different here, so we changed them to clouds.

01:11:18.000 Got the American flag in there.

01:11:20.000 That's why people also think you're right wing.

01:11:21.000 Think about it.

01:11:22.000 When do you ever see a leftist...

01:11:24.000 When do you ever see a current progressive leftist with patriotic symbolism?

01:11:28.000 I usually have an American flag case, but I ordered one from my iPhone X and I didn't get it yet.

01:11:35.000 Look, I love America.

01:11:36.000 I think America represents a beautiful place of opportunity, and it's not perfect, but I think it's the best place.

01:11:42.000 I've been to a lot of different places. 1.00

01:11:43.000 You know, if you think there's something wrong with being patriotic, I think you're fucking crazy. 0.99

01:11:47.000 I don't think America represents the worst aspects of us. 0.99

01:11:50.000 I think it represents possibility and promise, and that you have this ability to do whatever the fuck you want to do. 0.83

01:11:56.000 There's not a class structure.

01:11:57.000 You can literally go from the bottom to the top. 0.97

01:12:00.000 I mean, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do in this country. 0.97

01:12:03.000 There's some restrictions. 0.99

01:12:04.000 People say it's not a free country.

01:12:06.000 Hey, man, go to Canada. 0.99

01:12:07.000 It's a lot more fucking free than Canada. 0.98

01:12:09.000 In Canada, you can go to jail for not using someone's preferred gender pronouns. 0.98

01:12:13.000 There's a case that just was out a couple of days ago where some woman had a sign, and they boiled it down to like one word.

01:12:22.000 But her sign said that... 0.99

01:12:26.000 A transgender woman is a man, and just because you feel something like that, it does not overtake biology, and it's just a long thing.

01:12:36.000 This transgender person wanted to file a human rights violation case against her and get her arrested, and said, That the only way this person would be willing to not do that would be to sit down with this woman and have coffee with her,

01:12:51.000 explain to her why she's wrong.

01:12:53.000 Well, she doesn't think she's wrong.

01:12:55.000 You can't just decide that this person has to acquiesce.

01:12:57.000 They have to give in to your particular ideology and your line of thinking, otherwise it's hate speech.

01:13:03.000 That's not the answer.

01:13:05.000 The answer to, if you think someone's wrong, The answer is proving them wrong.

01:13:10.000 Having a conversation about it.

01:13:12.000 Someone deciding that not only is it wrong, but they're going to lock you up for it.

01:13:16.000 They're going to sue you.

01:13:17.000 That's crazy.

01:13:18.000 And I think, especially with that Trudeau guy up there.

01:13:21.000 Woo! 0.99

01:13:23.000 That guy's over the deep end. 0.99

01:13:24.000 By the way, remove a couple of fucks, and you could have just run for office with that speech. 1.00

01:13:27.000 It was very inspiring just there. 0.99

01:13:28.000 Look, I could probably get up there and be, if I could be a Canadian.

01:13:31.000 I'm a big fan of Canada.

01:13:33.000 I'm a big fan, but they've got a few problems.

01:13:36.000 You know, the first person I ever voted for was Stephen Harper.

01:13:39.000 Right?

01:13:39.000 So here's the deal.

01:13:40.000 Back then, yeah, I'm that guy.

01:13:41.000 I'm open about it.

01:13:42.000 Christian conservative.

01:13:42.000 Explain who Harper is.

01:13:44.000 Stephen Harper was the Prime Minister before Trudeau.

01:13:45.000 So Stephen Harper is the Canadian equivalent of a conservative.

01:13:48.000 So that would be like a little left of John Kasich here in the States.

01:13:52.000 He was their Reagan.

01:13:53.000 You kind of heard him that way.

01:13:54.000 I mean, they didn't have the housing bubble because they didn't do the subprime loans.

01:13:58.000 A candidate that was doing really well for the first time was higher in the Economic Freedom Index in the United States.

01:14:02.000 I voted for him.

01:14:03.000 And everyone hated him.

01:14:04.000 Why?

01:14:04.000 Because he was a practicing Christian conservative who believed in some form of limited government.

01:14:09.000 Well, now they have Trudeau.

01:14:10.000 It's like, surprise!

01:14:11.000 I remember Stephen Boisson was a pastor.

01:14:13.000 And I talked about this a lot.

01:14:15.000 And this was the slippery slope thing. 1.00

01:14:16.000 Everyone said, no, no, you're just crazy. 1.00

01:14:18.000 He's a religious nutbag. 0.99

01:14:18.000 This guy, Stephen Weston, was a pastor who I think was jailed. 0.99

01:14:21.000 He certainly was fined just because he said, I don't care what the law is in the land.

01:14:24.000 I'm not going to marry two men in my congregation.

01:14:27.000 I'm not going to recognize that as marriage.

01:14:28.000 That's what he said, whether you agree with him or not.

01:14:30.000 This was years ago.

01:14:33.000 People on the left back then supported it.

01:14:35.000 It's like, well, it only affects the Christian pastor who doesn't want to marry dudes back then.

01:14:38.000 Well, now it doesn't.

01:14:38.000 Now it affects the person who says, if you're born a man, you're a man.

01:14:41.000 And now it affects Mike Ward, the comedian who was put before Human Rights Tribunal for making fun of the Make-A-Wish Kid Foundation.

01:14:47.000 At a certain point, you have to draw the line.

01:14:49.000 And do we want to decide that we're going to draw the line when it comes to, for example, puberty blockers? 0.98

01:14:53.000 Or do we draw the line when someone tries to strangle Ben Shapiro on the Dr. Drew show because he implies that the guy with the penis is still a man? 0.99

01:15:00.000 That was rough. 0.97

01:15:02.000 That was a rough one because the guy was literally threatening violence and it was okay because Ben had misgendered him.

01:15:09.000 Ben, to be fair, you knew that was gonna...

01:15:13.000 Not only that, but touched him.

01:15:14.000 It was like putting his hands on him, which is very threatening.

01:15:17.000 If someone's threatening me and they're putting their hands on me, I'm on DEFCON 9. I'm ready to go.

01:15:21.000 Like, where's this going, bitch? 1.00

01:15:23.000 Why are you holding on to me? 1.00

01:15:24.000 Are we fighting?

01:15:25.000 You're holding me.

01:15:26.000 You're gripping me and holding me, and you're way bigger than me.

01:15:30.000 That guy was way...girl. 1.00

01:15:31.000 Shit. 1.00

01:15:32.000 Way bigger than Ben. 1.00

01:15:33.000 But Ben was fucking strong there. 0.98

01:15:36.000 That seems mildly inappropriate for his rudeness. 0.99

01:15:39.000 That was funny the way he said it.

01:15:41.000 We're sitting there like, oh my gosh.

01:15:43.000 But yeah, he said, if you don't be careful...

01:15:45.000 He sounded like the Joker.

01:15:46.000 You're going to wind up in the hospital.

01:15:47.000 If you don't be careful, you're going to go home in an ambulance.

01:15:49.000 It's like...

01:15:50.000 Are you going to beat me up because I say the wrong word?

01:15:53.000 Really?

01:15:54.000 Can you imagine?

01:15:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:15:55.000 But you were a man, right?

01:15:57.000 He was like the Clubber Lang of trannies. 1.00

01:15:58.000 Well, you know, that was one of the things that I got into with someone online about Fallon Fox.

01:16:03.000 I said, someone said, she was always a woman. 1.00

01:16:06.000 I go, okay, but you know, she got a man. 1.00

01:16:08.000 She had a penis. 1.00

01:16:09.000 She used to be a man. 1.00

01:16:11.000 She got a woman pregnant and had a kid with that woman. 1.00

01:16:15.000 I go, was she a woman then? 0.98

01:16:16.000 She goes, even then.

01:16:17.000 I'm like, we're done.

01:16:18.000 We're done.

01:16:19.000 We're in Narnia again.

01:16:21.000 And now that woman is CEO of YouTube. 1.00

01:16:23.000 Because I didn't expect that. 1.00

01:16:25.000 I felt like I could say, hey, I don't think it's cool if you get your penis removed and beat the fuck out of women. 1.00

01:16:32.000 I just felt like that's a safe thing to say. 1.00

01:16:36.000 I didn't know it was going to be a controversy.

01:16:38.000 And people were like, you're a bigot.

01:16:39.000 And I was like, wow.

01:16:41.000 Wow.

01:16:41.000 Okay.

01:16:42.000 Hmm.

01:16:43.000 Maybe you should at least tell them that you used to be a man?

01:16:45.000 No.

01:16:46.000 It's a medical procedure and it has no basis whatsoever in your physical performance.

01:16:49.000 Well, that's not even structurally true.

01:16:51.000 That doesn't even make any sense.

01:16:52.000 The physical body's built differently.

01:16:55.000 Can you imagine if Brock Lesnar decided to be a woman?

01:16:57.000 Just imagine.

01:16:58.000 There's not enough hormone blockers in the world to keep that Didn't have to tell anybody.

01:17:02.000 Didn't have to tell anybody.

01:17:03.000 No, it's a medical procedure. 0.99

01:17:05.000 Well, they don't want you, the left doesn't want you to tell people you have AIDS as much, I mean, a penis as much. 0.99

01:17:09.000 That's a California law now. 0.99

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:11.000 Chad with AIDS. Isn't that wonderful?

01:17:13.000 It used to be a felony.

01:17:14.000 And now it's like...

01:17:15.000 It should be.

01:17:16.000 Yes. 1.00

01:17:16.000 If you know you have a fatal disease and you fuck someone in the butt without a condom, that's... 1.00

01:17:22.000 Or at a Red Pool party. 1.00

01:17:24.000 That's...

01:17:24.000 You mean it can't just be transferred by playing Spin the Bottle?

01:17:27.000 Did you ever see the guy who authored that?

01:17:30.000 Yes.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, the Folsom Street Fair with the little leather, like, X. Looks like a Bryan Singer pool party.

01:17:35.000 It's hilarious.

01:17:36.000 It's hysterical.

01:17:37.000 That that guy passed that through.

01:17:38.000 It's because people weren't paying attention.

01:17:39.000 Like, that's crazy.

01:17:41.000 Like, I don't care if it's AIDS or if you could give someone cancer. 1.00

01:17:47.000 If you have cancer and you know you have cancer, I mean if it was a communicable disease and you decided to make out with someone who doesn't have cancer and you gave it to them, like fuck man, you just killed somebody. 0.99

01:17:56.000 You just smoked a pipe and kissed me and now I have esophageal cancer. 0.99

01:18:00.000 You know, the bigger conversation on that too is...

01:18:03.000 They're like, obviously it's not fatal anymore because of protease inhibitors and all this stuff, but the reality is...

01:18:08.000 You just compared AIDS to cancer.

01:18:09.000 There was once a day where you could just compare AIDS to AIDS, and it was pretty bad. 0.97

01:18:13.000 Well, they used to call AIDS the gay cancer.

01:18:15.000 You know, that's when AIDS first came out. 0.99

01:18:17.000 They called it the gay cancer.

01:18:18.000 Oh, we did a thing on that. 0.98

01:18:19.000 That's offensive.

01:18:20.000 You remember that show Wishbone?

01:18:22.000 We did a parody with our dog Hopper.

01:18:24.000 We did the AIDS epidemic. 0.80

01:18:24.000 Now, the AIDS epidemic was always a hoax. 0.80

01:18:26.000 There was never an epidemic. 0.99

01:18:27.000 Basically, if you were not doing heroin with dirty needles or having gay unprotected sex with George Michael, you were pretty much safe. 0.99

01:18:33.000 People got so mad. 1.00

01:18:34.000 You said they knew it.

01:18:35.000 Yeah.

01:18:35.000 People knew it.

01:18:36.000 Do you remember the Kinnison bit?

01:18:38.000 Yeah, I remember the kinescent bit.

01:18:40.000 Hysterical.

01:18:41.000 Yeah.

01:18:41.000 So we had a guy who came on, it was actually very civil, who disagreed.

01:18:44.000 By the end of it, he just said, well, I guess I just disagreed because the way you said it was so incendiary.

01:18:48.000 And I said, well, hold on a second.

01:18:49.000 Why is it incendiary?

01:18:50.000 I am the one actually trying to prevent people from getting AIDS. There are very specific patterns of behavior that you avoid.

01:18:57.000 Don't have gay unprotected sex in a truck stop. 1.00

01:18:59.000 Don't do heroin in the East Village, like Rent. 0.99

01:19:02.000 Well, you ever watch the movie Rent?

01:19:03.000 You ever see that movie?

01:19:04.000 No.

01:19:04.000 Oh, because I'm straight.

01:19:06.000 I went to go see where people were crying at rent.

01:19:09.000 Oh. 0.59

01:19:09.000 And like every single person was doing heroin in the East Village and having unprotected sex with each other. 0.59

01:19:14.000 If you make it past noon without getting AIDS, you're on borrowed time.

01:19:18.000 I don't feel bad for you at this point.

01:19:20.000 But we had people who gave us so much flack over the AIDS epidemic, and none of them disagreed with the statistics. 0.65

01:19:24.000 You're just not supposed to say it.

01:19:26.000 Think about that for a second, though.

01:19:27.000 The issue with that Folsom Street Fair senator or congressman, you know what I'm talking about.

01:19:32.000 Yes.

01:19:32.000 The guy with the beautiful leather vest with no shirt on underneath it, wandering through the streets with a tire on his neck that looks suspiciously like a leash.

01:19:40.000 It was a Hot Topic discount item.

01:19:41.000 Who had a Donald Trumpet?

01:19:42.000 It was on sale with the Hello Kitty backpacks.

01:19:46.000 So his argument, I remember, was, well, these laws, these disclosure laws, and by the way, for people who don't know, it means you have to disclose that you have AIDS if you're having sex with somebody.

01:19:56.000 These disclosure laws only serve to stigmatize people.

01:19:59.000 Hold on a second.

01:20:00.000 Does it mean that we can't stigmatize anyone or anything ever?

01:20:04.000 We can't stigmatize AIDS? Right.

01:20:08.000 Like, it doesn't mean we hate you, but we can't...

01:20:10.000 And consciously delivering it into someone.

01:20:12.000 I mean, that's the problem.

01:20:14.000 Like, being aware.

01:20:15.000 At what point are we okay stigmatizing?

01:20:17.000 Right.

01:20:17.000 I mean, what does it take to say, like, well, you know what, okay, maybe we should stigmatize...

01:20:21.000 If I were to use an absurd example in a bit, it would be like, okay, maybe we should stigmatize knowingly transferring AIDS to somebody through unprotected butt sex as a goof. 0.92

01:20:30.000 But instead, we don't want to stigmatize that. 0.88

01:20:32.000 Well, you're not even supposed to say AIDS, right?

01:20:33.000 Because it's HIV, and then HIV gives AIDS. You get AIDS because your immune system is compromised, and what AIDS is is a syndrome, acquired immune deficiency syndrome.

01:20:43.000 I never got more hate in all the years I did this podcast than one of the early, early, early episodes.

01:20:50.000 What was that doctor's name?

01:20:51.000 The doctor from the University of California, Berkeley.

01:20:55.000 He is ostracized from the medical community, but he's a...

01:20:59.000 Dewsburg.

01:20:59.000 Yes, Dr. Peter Dewsburg.

01:21:01.000 He wrote an article in Spin Magazine way, way, way back in the day, and his assertion was that HIV is a very weak virus and that HIV is appearing in the systems of these people because they have compromised immune systems.

01:21:16.000 It's not AIDS. It's not HIV that's giving these people compromised immune systems.

01:21:21.000 They already have compromised immune systems. 0.63

01:21:23.000 And he was saying the reason why they're having these compromised immune systems is because of Amyl nitrate and crystal meth and party drugs.

01:21:33.000 And he showed overwhelming, like in his mind, overwhelming evidence that all these people that got AIDS were getting...

01:21:42.000 Their immune system was compromised because of partying.

01:21:45.000 They were saying this is why it's so prevalent in the gay party community. 0.82

01:21:49.000 And he was talking about how you... 0.96

01:21:53.000 Destroy your immune system with amyl nitrate.

01:21:55.000 You destroy your immune system with crystal meth.

01:21:57.000 And if you check the immune systems of these people, of course it's going to be devastated.

01:22:02.000 They're doing hardcore party drugs, and they're doing them all the time. 0.97

01:22:06.000 He said this, and he published a bunch of stuff on it.

01:22:11.000 People went crazy.

01:22:13.000 I mean, it was not a scientific debate.

01:22:16.000 It was more of a social issue.

01:22:19.000 How dare you stigmatize crystal meth?

01:22:21.000 But if it wasn't a gay thing, here's the thing.

01:22:24.000 If AIDS was just something, you found truck stop people who were just doing meth and shooting heroin, and they're all, for whatever reason, they're getting this disease, you would go, oh, I bet a disease is probably, maybe has something to do with the fact they're all doing meth. 0.72

01:22:39.000 No, no, no!

01:22:40.000 Unrelated.

01:22:41.000 Okay.

01:22:42.000 But meth's bad, right?

01:22:43.000 Oh, it's terrible.

01:22:44.000 But amyl nitrate's devastating.

01:22:46.000 Oh, instant brain damage.

01:22:47.000 Amyl nitrate causes instant brain damage.

01:22:50.000 You pop one of those things, you...

01:22:51.000 Was that like ammonia?

01:22:53.000 It's poppers.

01:22:54.000 Poppers.

01:22:55.000 Yeah, they do them.

01:22:56.000 It apparently opens your...

01:22:57.000 Well, a lot of powerlifters would do those before setting...

01:22:59.000 Some smelling salts.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, different stuff.

01:23:02.000 Amyl nitrate is a potent drug.

01:23:04.000 Actually, somebody talked about that yesterday.

01:23:08.000 Ben Greenfield talked about it yesterday.

01:23:09.000 Some insanely disgusting smelling salt that you barely hold up to your nose and you do lifts right after that.

01:23:16.000 It excites your central nervous system.

01:23:19.000 It's fired up.

01:23:19.000 I like lavender.

01:23:21.000 Cinnamon.

01:23:22.000 I'm in the cinnamon.

01:23:23.000 But anyway, I don't know what the facts are. 0.99

01:23:26.000 I'm not a fucking biologist. 0.96

01:23:28.000 This guy is a tenured professor at the University of California, Berkeley. 0.99

01:23:32.000 Can't get funding for anything.

01:23:33.000 He's done rock-solid research on cancer.

01:23:35.000 He's a really interesting guy.

01:23:36.000 But all the other AIDS researchers denounce him.

01:23:40.000 Everyone else that's involved in HIV, and they might be right.

01:23:42.000 They very well could be right.

01:23:43.000 I don't know if he's right or he's wrong.

01:23:45.000 It seems to me more likely that he's wrong because no one has come forward legitimately on his side in terms of scientific research.

01:23:53.000 Based on what you're saying, from what I hear, my inclination is it sounds like he may be wrong, but here's the thing.

01:23:58.000 I'm not offended that you brought it up. 0.99

01:24:00.000 He's a fucking biologist. 0.99

01:24:02.000 But that's what's crazy about it. 1.00

01:24:03.000 That's why I can't think of any shows on the other side of the political spectrum where they wouldn't be offended by that. 0.98

01:24:10.000 Like you said, you get so much crap Maybe he's wrong. 0.93

01:24:13.000 From everything I know about HIV and AIDS, seems as though he's wrong. 0.99

01:24:16.000 I don't know enough to say he's wrong, but I've heard enough people that know enough that say he's wrong that I believe them. 1.00

01:24:23.000 But people are sending me messages, bloods on your hands and this and that. 0.99

01:24:26.000 I'm like, if you went out and had unprotected butt sex after listening to the Joe Rogan experience, you deserve what's coming. 1.00

01:24:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:24:34.000 Okay? 1.00

01:24:34.000 If you listen to me and you're like, that's it. 1.00

01:24:37.000 Peter Duesberg is right.

01:24:38.000 Send it in. 0.98

01:24:40.000 Rex's butt is going... 0.98

01:24:41.000 Come on, man. 0.99

01:24:41.000 Jackpot! 0.99

01:24:42.000 Come on.

01:24:43.000 You can't demonize conversations.

01:24:46.000 And I don't know enough about the subject, but I listen to that guy's take on it, and it's fuel for thought.

01:24:53.000 You know, I don't think he's right.

01:24:55.000 But I've talked to a lot of people that I don't think are right. 0.99

01:24:57.000 I've talked to some crazy fucking people on this show. 0.99

01:25:00.000 And I think we've got to be able to have conversations. 1.00

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 You have to.

01:25:05.000 Well, I mean, we might agree on 60% of things.

01:25:08.000 Maybe 50. Maybe it's somewhere between 40 and 70. I don't know.

01:25:11.000 It doesn't matter.

01:25:11.000 It should be okay.

01:25:12.000 It should be totally fine.

01:25:13.000 And that's the thing when we do, you know, the Change My Mind segments, most time people, it's pretty amicable, and then you just get someone who comes up and wants to commit assault.

01:25:20.000 Right.

01:25:21.000 To Trigglypuffs.

01:25:21.000 And it's like, I think a big skill, we've kind of had to learn this, because, not gay Jared knows, um...

01:25:27.000 When we first had guests, if it was a guest who I disagreed with, I was like, listen, I will not edit you.

01:25:32.000 It will not be taken out of context.

01:25:34.000 But I would sit down for three hours with them because they would be like, don't cut me off!

01:25:38.000 Don't cut me off!

01:25:38.000 And you realize they're just repeating themselves.

01:25:40.000 Right.

01:25:40.000 So finding the balance of seeing there are a lot of people out there now who are open to hearing these points, who are open to hearing these ideas, being able to identify them, and then being able to identify the people who are so bought in they won't even listen.

01:25:52.000 You need to make an example of them for the people you can convince.

01:25:56.000 Right.

01:25:56.000 And understanding the two different kinds of people, the Trigglypuffs versus, you know, I don't know, Jordan Peterson, who probably never saw himself as even political at all until he came out and said something that would seem to be so benign and cause an uproar.

01:26:09.000 I think being able to identify those two, it's not so much just about left and right, who can hear, who won't, and how to handle them.

01:26:16.000 Right.

01:26:16.000 And why?

01:26:17.000 Why can't you hear?

01:26:18.000 Can you not hear because it interferes with your ideology?

01:26:21.000 Or can you not hear because what they're saying is illogical?

01:26:25.000 Like, which one is it?

01:26:26.000 Are you honestly listening to what they're saying?

01:26:29.000 And can you give factual refute?

01:26:32.000 Can you give some sort of a factual refute of this?

01:26:35.000 Or is it just, it just doesn't jive with your view of the world?

01:26:38.000 You have some rock-solid view of the world that you're not willing to look at any other perspectives.

01:26:44.000 Well, because that's an undercover thing.

01:26:45.000 With, by the way, Balls of Steel doing this.

01:26:48.000 Yeah, let's talk about that one.

01:26:49.000 Because we got video of that one, too.

01:26:51.000 You went undercover with Antifa.

01:26:55.000 And that one was disturbing to me.

01:26:58.000 Because, first of all, you look like you slide right in like a glove, buddy.

01:27:02.000 Like, shh!

01:27:03.000 I was almost matching the guy when I got there.

01:27:05.000 Guy, gal, we don't know.

01:27:07.000 And I thought our costume wardrobe lady had actually just stolen his clothes because it was almost identical to what he was wearing.

01:27:13.000 Isn't it funny, though, that when you're a slender man, people assume immediately you're left winged?

01:27:19.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:27:19.000 I can get away with so much crap. 0.99

01:27:21.000 Isn't that weird? 1.00

01:27:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:22.000 What is it about slender people? 0.61

01:27:24.000 There's something there, right?

01:27:26.000 What is it about slender people that are almost always left wing? 0.95

01:27:29.000 Weakness.

01:27:30.000 Whoa.

01:27:30.000 You think so?

01:27:31.000 Sorry.

01:27:33.000 Could be.

01:27:35.000 The same reason they see the American flag as right wing.

01:27:37.000 They see this, you might as well be the Third Reich. 0.75

01:27:41.000 Did I say Third Reich? 0.67

01:27:42.000 I don't even know what it is.

01:27:43.000 Yeah, you said it.

01:27:45.000 Iron Mountain Designs.

01:27:47.000 Check them out on Instagram.

01:27:50.000 Is that steel?

01:27:51.000 Yeah.

01:27:51.000 That's pretty cool.

01:27:52.000 Guy makes them.

01:27:52.000 I can usually tell when someone's approaching us if they're friendly or foe by their posture and their body size.

01:27:58.000 The guy walks in, your body size, I'm like, oh, that's probably a friendly.

01:28:04.000 A queer looking 140 pound man like myself approaches.

01:28:07.000 I'm like, ah, we gotta get out of Dodge. 0.75

01:28:08.000 He has a shank or screwdriver.

01:28:10.000 The thing is, I had done so many of these other cover things.

01:28:15.000 You didn't want to go.

01:28:16.000 You didn't want to go because I was like, I had done too many.

01:28:18.000 And now I get made every time I go out.

01:28:19.000 After you dress as a tranny and you interview Wendy Davis, my wig flies off. 0.96

01:28:22.000 She still goes along with it.

01:28:24.000 I'm on every message form now.

01:28:26.000 I'm like, Derek, you've got to go in there.

01:28:27.000 On a technical level, I also didn't want to pull up a SEAL Team 6 mission between a Wednesday and Friday show.

01:28:32.000 It's true.

01:28:32.000 But what happened is then when you were in, you wanted to go back.

01:28:36.000 It's true.

01:28:36.000 I was juiced.

01:28:37.000 I was psyched.

01:28:38.000 Explain to me how it got set up, how you did it.

01:28:41.000 What was the meeting?

01:28:43.000 Balls of steel.

01:28:44.000 Well, I mean, these things are much different than the Burlington, Vermont kind of gigs.

01:28:48.000 I mean, that was a throwaway.

01:28:49.000 This one took months of planning.

01:28:51.000 It was Reg, too.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, to Reg especially, to infiltrating the back end of Antifa.

01:28:56.000 Reg?

01:28:57.000 Reg, we call him Reg.

01:28:57.000 We have a guy who does research for us.

01:29:00.000 Don't make him mad.

01:29:01.000 I won't get into anything specific, but he is a high-level professor.

01:29:05.000 He has a 650-something pound squat.

01:29:09.000 He's like Bain in real life.

01:29:11.000 And brilliant.

01:29:12.000 He was the one who found the Salon Pedophile. 0.59

01:29:14.000 That's why we broke that.

01:29:15.000 Salon Pedophile.

01:29:15.000 Oh, that article?

01:29:16.000 Yeah, but we were the first ones to write about how he was currently actively a pedophile.

01:29:19.000 He sent it to me within 10 minutes.

01:29:22.000 He's the man in the chair.

01:29:23.000 He wasn't a practicing pedophile, right?

01:29:26.000 No, he was.

01:29:27.000 He talked about grooming and all that stuff, and we wrote about it.

01:29:30.000 Really?

01:29:30.000 They doubled down on it too, didn't they?

01:29:32.000 They came out and defended the guy.

01:29:33.000 Three more articles.

01:29:34.000 Yeah.

01:29:34.000 Anyway, the point is Reg does brilliant...

01:29:37.000 Didn't they remove those articles?

01:29:39.000 I don't know.

01:29:40.000 Maybe they did.

01:29:40.000 But they did like two or three.

01:29:42.000 But Reg is a brilliant researcher.

01:29:43.000 And so at this point...

01:29:44.000 Explain that though, because we're glossing over this for people that are just listening.

01:29:47.000 Please explain what that was, like those articles.

01:29:50.000 Sorry, yeah.

01:29:51.000 We're starting off with that.

01:29:52.000 So Salon.com, what was their first article?

01:29:54.000 I'm a pedophile, but I'm not a monster.

01:29:56.000 Yeah.

01:29:56.000 And it was talking about how, you know, the way to deal with us is, again, not to stigmatize us.

01:30:00.000 I'm like, listen, I'm sorry.

01:30:01.000 At a certain point, I'm empathetic, but we send you to therapy. 0.99

01:30:03.000 You still want to have sex with kids? 1.00

01:30:04.000 We take you out of the village. 1.00

01:30:06.000 We shoot you. 1.00

01:30:06.000 We can't take that risk. 1.00

01:30:07.000 Sorry.

01:30:08.000 That's it.

01:30:09.000 So he was like, I'm not a monster, and talked about how, you know, his struggles with his family.

01:30:13.000 I'm like, okay, you can kind of understand it.

01:30:14.000 But then Reg did some research.

01:30:16.000 We found all of his online message board, his pseudonyms, his usernames, and coded language about grooming.

01:30:25.000 Grooming, you mean like you're grooming kids online.

01:30:27.000 So we found all of it and we released an article on it.

01:30:29.000 And then Salon released another article where he responded and didn't call us up by name, but was like, my week in the right-wing hate sphere.

01:30:38.000 And they ran it on Salon like, we're the bad guys because we found out that you're grooming children? 0.97

01:30:43.000 And they released a few and we just realized, okay, this is the thing, kind of like hormone blockers for kids.

01:30:48.000 Salon's cool with an active pedophile.

01:30:50.000 Let's move on now. 0.63

01:30:52.000 We're not going to do it.

01:30:52.000 There's no more convincing to be done here.

01:30:55.000 So Reg was the one who found that, and Reg was the one who infiltrated a lot of the Antifa groups.

01:30:59.000 That's not his real name, but he has so many.

01:31:01.000 This guy is just brilliant.

01:31:02.000 So he'd been doing research on the back end upon request and was so good.

01:31:06.000 So we had all this research.

01:31:07.000 We knew who these people were.

01:31:08.000 We kind of knew what they were planning with Ben Shapiro going into Utah.

01:31:12.000 As a matter of fact, we were going to go to Berkeley right before that, but then last minute we found out that they weren't going to do it because we know where they meet.

01:31:19.000 We were on their cryptic apps.

01:31:20.000 Mm-hmm.

01:31:21.000 Where they would text you, so it's these apps that you would download.

01:31:23.000 Like, I don't know if we're allowed, are we allowed to say that?

01:31:26.000 No, I think, yeah.

01:31:27.000 The FBI came to us for information afterwards.

01:31:30.000 Like, oh yeah, we were tracking these people.

01:31:31.000 There were arrests made.

01:31:33.000 Because of your undercover thing.

01:31:34.000 Well, arrests made on the people who were seen undercover.

01:31:36.000 The same people.

01:31:37.000 So they committed crimes, again, later that day and were arrested.

01:31:40.000 So the same person who handed him a shank later that day assaulted someone and was arrested.

01:31:44.000 So Reg gets you the information and then you, how do you make contact with these people?

01:31:51.000 We were part of their Facebook grouping, so we found out where they wanted to meet, when and where, and we showed up to campus, and I walk in as Jason...

01:32:02.000 Antifa person, new to the organization, say I want to be involved.

01:32:05.000 Blue contacts and a beanie.

01:32:06.000 That's all it takes!

01:32:07.000 You put blue contacts on?

01:32:08.000 Yeah, blue contacts.

01:32:09.000 Why blue contacts?

01:32:11.000 Because we're on a budget.

01:32:13.000 We need a disguise.

01:32:13.000 But why do you need a disguise?

01:32:15.000 You didn't think you could slip up?

01:32:16.000 You thought people would recognize you from the show?

01:32:18.000 We could have been on their radar.

01:32:19.000 We don't know.

01:32:20.000 Well, they tried to find us in Austin.

01:32:23.000 Antifa did.

01:32:24.000 Yeah, they were handing out posters.

01:32:25.000 We taped an interview with Tim Kennedy and they were passing out flyers.

01:32:27.000 Was that when you got waterboarded?

01:32:29.000 No, that was another time.

01:32:31.000 And I would much rather be waterboarded.

01:32:32.000 Yeah, he did.

01:32:33.000 He did.

01:32:33.000 That was no joke, and I'd rather do that than the CNN 16-hour livestream.

01:32:36.000 That's not a joke.

01:32:37.000 I'd rather be waterboarded.

01:32:38.000 But anyway, sorry, I'm getting off the top.

01:32:40.000 But go ahead.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, so we show up at this coffeehouse.

01:32:43.000 They're meeting at Starbucks on campus.

01:32:48.000 Antifa meets at Starbucks.

01:32:49.000 Yeah.

01:32:50.000 I don't know.

01:32:50.000 I find it funny.

01:32:51.000 So I found him, met up.

01:32:53.000 He gives me the cryptic messaging app.

01:32:57.000 Was it a he or she?

01:32:58.000 Did you find out?

01:32:58.000 We don't know.

01:32:58.000 I was sure it was a he because there was a wedding band and a chick showed up.

01:33:02.000 Let's call her Xur. 1.00

01:33:02.000 Xur. 1.00

01:33:03.000 Xur's sitting there with his wedding band, iPhone 7, and is brought on the side.

01:33:09.000 Gives me the app and says, we'll see you tomorrow.

01:33:11.000 So I say, okay, see you then.

01:33:12.000 He gives me full communication.

01:33:14.000 They did roll call.

01:33:15.000 They did roll call.

01:33:16.000 And he says, okay, everyone roll call.

01:33:18.000 We've got Jason in the group.

01:33:19.000 Sound off!

01:33:20.000 Yeah, it's like Firebird.

01:33:21.000 What was a funny one?

01:33:23.000 Well, it went down to all these like Firebird and Rogue 2 and Flamethrower 9 and then there was Will.

01:33:30.000 There was Will.

01:33:31.000 Will, that was his real name.

01:33:33.000 We found him so swiftly.

01:33:36.000 Will was so easy to find.

01:33:37.000 How could you figure out who Will was?

01:33:39.000 Well, because the phone numbers are all still listed.

01:33:41.000 It's a cryptid messaging app.

01:33:43.000 It doesn't allow you to take screenshots, but it turns out if you have another phone, you could take a photo of your screen.

01:33:49.000 Just use a physical camera.

01:33:51.000 They didn't seem to work out this kink in the plans. 0.99

01:33:53.000 Well, that was like the Snapchat thing when people were sending dick pics. 0.93

01:33:56.000 Like, hey, no one's gonna see it. 0.98

01:33:58.000 No one's gonna see it.

01:33:59.000 Well, you can take screenshots.

01:34:00.000 It just informs the other person, which is so much worse to know someone actually took it.

01:34:03.000 It's like, that just makes it worse for everybody.

01:34:06.000 Take a photo of it with another camera, like you said.

01:34:10.000 So anyway, I'm sorry.

01:34:10.000 So go ahead.

01:34:11.000 So all these people are role-playing.

01:34:13.000 They're in Dungeons& Dragons.

01:34:15.000 Exactly.

01:34:15.000 So we go back to our hotel, get ready for the next day, and show up on campus where they're supposed to meet up and get together.

01:34:24.000 And you are nervous as hell at this place.

01:34:26.000 When should we play some of this?

01:34:27.000 I was more nervous the day before because I didn't know what I was walking into in Starbucks.

01:34:30.000 How short is the clip?

01:34:31.000 Do you want to play it first?

01:34:31.000 They're all like 30 seconds.

01:34:33.000 It's from Antifa.

01:34:35.000 Which one do you want me to start with?

01:34:37.000 I don't know.

01:34:38.000 Find one.

01:34:41.000 So these people...

01:34:43.000 Makes a difference to me.

01:34:45.000 They were openly advocating violence.

01:34:47.000 And they were openly...

01:34:49.000 they were offering to give you a gun.

01:34:51.000 Not at first.

01:34:52.000 No, no, no.

01:34:52.000 Not at first.

01:34:53.000 Well, hold on.

01:34:54.000 That's why I say I wanted to...

01:34:55.000 Because you actually said the funny part before.

01:34:56.000 You said, we got into a fight.

01:34:58.000 And you said, this is not in my job description.

01:35:01.000 And I said, it is exactly in your job description.

01:35:03.000 You have to go do this right now.

01:35:05.000 And we had security and everything, but I remember you were really...

01:35:08.000 And then, after the clips you'll see, after they gave you the knife, and we were filing out reports with the cops, at that point he goes, I'm going to go back in.

01:35:16.000 I think I can really mess with him.

01:35:17.000 I'm like, no, you can't.

01:35:18.000 They just handed you a prison shank and told you they had a sawed-off shotgun.

01:35:21.000 You can't go back in there.

01:35:23.000 So once he was in it, we had to rein him back.

01:35:25.000 It was like a little watering.

01:35:27.000 You popped the collar a couple times.

01:35:28.000 You popped the collar.

01:35:29.000 You got a little crazy. 0.78

01:35:31.000 You got a little crazy. 0.57

01:35:32.000 Okay, so let's play this.

01:35:33.000 This is my meeting at Starbucks.

01:35:35.000 You can tell us if that's a guy.

01:35:36.000 It's almost like product placement there.

01:35:37.000 You think it's a guy?

01:35:38.000 This is a guy.

01:35:39.000 I think.

01:35:40.000 Alright, play it.

01:35:46.000 This is telling you how to show up.

01:35:49.000 Hard tactics.

01:35:50.000 They're not prepared for what we're planning.

01:35:51.000 They're not prepared for what we're planning. 1.00

01:35:53.000 I have a toolbox full of shit. 1.00

01:35:55.000 Did you bring your gun? 1.00

01:35:57.000 I have, like, on the border between just a regular rifle and assault weapon.

01:35:59.000 I have, like, on the border between a regular rifle and assault weapon.

01:36:02.000 And a assault-off style shotgun.

01:36:03.000 I've got a handgun.

01:36:05.000 That's a girl.

01:36:06.000 Yeah, I thought so when I showed up for this one, but, you know.

01:36:09.000 Maybe the hands.

01:36:10.000 She likes to play the field. 0.98

01:36:11.000 I think the next clip, Jamie, is the one where they hand Jared.

01:36:13.000 Was it an ice pick, you said?

01:36:14.000 Or what was it?

01:36:14.000 A screwdriver?

01:36:15.000 It was an ice pick.

01:36:16.000 No, it was a sharp pointy end, but it was like a screwdriver handle.

01:36:20.000 It said two AKs coming? 0.76

01:36:21.000 Okay, so here it is.

01:36:22.000 I think they were lying, though, but...

01:36:24.000 This is...

01:36:24.000 Thanks.

01:36:25.000 So the human is arrested.

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:29.000 They're telling me how I can procure my own K-bars.

01:36:31.000 There we go.

01:36:33.000 K-bar sponsor of Antifa now, by the way.

01:36:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:43.000 Really stab a lot. 1.00

01:36:44.000 Shit is a fan. 1.00

01:36:47.000 Okay, so what they were doing is, first of all, that person never stabbed anybody in their fucking life, right? 1.00

01:36:52.000 So these are dorks. 0.98

01:36:53.000 And what they're doing is they're deciding now they're going to take action. 0.96

01:36:57.000 And they're going to enlist the aid of a bunch of other people. 1.00

01:37:01.000 Did you think at that point in time, like maybe these people are looking for suckers that are willing to do fucked up shit for them? 0.99

01:37:07.000 Because she ain't stabbing anybody. 0.99

01:37:09.000 I absolutely think so.

01:37:11.000 When I showed up, I met, there was like four of them when I got there.

01:37:14.000 They were all running late.

01:37:15.000 The socialists were all running late.

01:37:16.000 Yeah, they all showed up late.

01:37:18.000 That's a good one.

01:37:19.000 Showtime.

01:37:20.000 And one of them actually said, sweetheart there, Honeybee, was like, yeah, that's the beauty of being unemployed.

01:37:25.000 I can just show up on time anywhere I want.

01:37:27.000 I'm like, there is a silver lining, I guess.

01:37:30.000 She was just eating.

01:37:31.000 She was eating.

01:37:32.000 And she was still late.

01:37:34.000 Okay, so I get there, and first I'm thinking, okay, this is a bust.

01:37:38.000 This is a really sad group of people.

01:37:41.000 Because I don't know about the weapons at this point.

01:37:43.000 I'm expecting like 40s guys in what they call black block, all black, goggles, everything, and it just looks like a really sad social club.

01:37:51.000 So I get there, sit down for a bit, and like three minutes in, they start telling me, they start passing me stuff, telling me everything you just saw.

01:37:59.000 And I'm thinking, oh my lord, this is not...

01:38:04.000 I need to get out.

01:38:05.000 I need to get out.

01:38:06.000 I need to get out.

01:38:07.000 And meanwhile, I'm on the other side of the school, because Ben Shapiro is speaking.

01:38:10.000 So I'm on the other side of the school, and Ben Shapiro is there, so there are a lot of fans, so I'm kind of taking pictures, and I got spotted, so I'm taking pictures, and my phone's vibrating like, hold on a second, let me just shut off my phone.

01:38:19.000 Taking pictures, and I see it, and Jared's like, they're handing me knives!

01:38:22.000 What do I do?

01:38:24.000 Oh my god, I gotta go!

01:38:25.000 You're like, quick, get out!

01:38:26.000 I'm like, okay, I need to fast, I need to think quick.

01:38:28.000 Yeah, so I told him I had to take a dump, and I just left.

01:38:31.000 That was hilarious.

01:38:33.000 That was hilarious.

01:38:34.000 Well, the crazy thing about that is that you bring us the footage.

01:38:39.000 So there are cops right there. 0.73

01:38:40.000 So we tell the cops, because I'm like, we've got to get him through this, whatever it is, quad or whatever it's there.

01:38:45.000 Because they're talking about luring people.

01:38:46.000 Oh, this is the guy right here.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, this is the guy right here.

01:38:48.000 I think.

01:38:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:50.000 Hold on.

01:38:53.000 Oh, it's not playing.

01:38:55.000 Corrupted the file.

01:38:56.000 Oh, here goes.

01:38:59.000 This guy works for local news.

01:39:05.000 You know what?

01:39:06.000 I wish you guys luck.

01:39:07.000 Yes, you just saw correctly.

01:39:08.000 Even being shown the footage in the presence of police officers to confirm authenticity, they walked away.

01:39:15.000 Also, I should note...

01:39:16.000 Yeah.

01:39:17.000 He was on my podcast.

01:39:19.000 He gave us a brief spot when they actually put together, weeks later, after our video came out, so he had to acknowledge it, but he put together a small little brief montage of our video that took place on his little profile event.

01:39:32.000 It was a mostly peaceful event, though not without some controversy.

01:39:36.000 What happens is, to me, what's so crazy is, again, I offered it to the local guy.

01:39:41.000 People who do news, you know, April O'Neil, they want the exclusive.

01:39:45.000 I said, hey man, do you want this?

01:39:46.000 Like, to run this?

01:39:46.000 Because he worked for ABC or Local Fox or something.

01:39:48.000 And he's doing Instagram videos with five followers, and he's like, oh, a heart go up on his screen.

01:39:52.000 So I'm looking at him like, listen man, do you want this?

01:39:55.000 And he goes, what is it?

01:39:57.000 So I go, hold on, we tell him exactly what we had, and we show him the cryptic app, and I'm like, hold on a second, we're not, here are the police.

01:40:04.000 So we're showing it to him, and he walks away.

01:40:07.000 He's like, well, I gotta do my job.

01:40:08.000 I'm like, this isn't a part of your job?

01:40:11.000 This isn't a part...

01:40:11.000 He didn't think it was...

01:40:12.000 And that, to me, was insane.

01:40:14.000 We weren't looking for necessarily a scoop.

01:40:16.000 We just wanted to get this as wide as possible.

01:40:17.000 They had a rhyme going down the street with their protests.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:21.000 That's what he did.

01:40:21.000 He was doing Instagram.

01:40:22.000 Oh, you'll see people peacefully protesting.

01:40:24.000 And, like, hold up his Instagram.

01:40:26.000 Hey, hey, ho, ho. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Donald Trump sucks. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Do you think that he just didn't have authority? 1.00

01:40:29.000 That he was trying to...

01:40:31.000 Didn't fit the narrative.

01:40:32.000 Same thing with a guy from Nightline.

01:40:33.000 Didn't fit.

01:40:34.000 So the narrative was the anti-Trump protesters, which is what people were tuning into the news for.

01:40:39.000 It wasn't...

01:40:39.000 It was peaceful.

01:40:40.000 It was peaceful.

01:40:41.000 Right.

01:40:41.000 There were snipers on the rooftops for that little Jew, Ben Shapiro.

01:40:45.000 Think about that.

01:40:46.000 This was, what, a week?

01:40:47.000 A dangerous little guy.

01:40:47.000 Two weeks after Berkeley?

01:40:48.000 He's a smarmy little bastard. 1.00

01:40:50.000 I love him. 1.00

01:40:50.000 But he's like, I could see how he pisses people off. 1.00

01:40:52.000 But he's brilliant.

01:40:53.000 He's a very, very smart guy.

01:40:55.000 He was my first lawyer.

01:40:56.000 He negotiated my contracts.

01:40:57.000 He wasn't even an entertainment lawyer.

01:40:58.000 He said, Ben, you got a lot of vowels in your last name, and I have a contract with money at play.

01:41:03.000 Can you help me?

01:41:03.000 And he said, I think I can do it.

01:41:06.000 That's how we became friends.

01:41:07.000 I was 18. That's hilarious.

01:41:08.000 But this is the heat of the Antifa fight last summer, right after Berkeley.

01:41:12.000 They were really, specifically about Antifa, trying to downplay the violence and the undercurrent.

01:41:19.000 They seem to have given that up.

01:41:21.000 They seem to have accepted the fact that there's a lot of violence.

01:41:23.000 Some of them.

01:41:24.000 Some of them.

01:41:24.000 But I think this, I mean, I hate not to toot our own horn, but I think things like this, I mean, that got, what, 15 million plays on Facebook and a few million on YouTube.

01:41:32.000 And the reason we got more mileage is because the news refused to cover it.

01:41:35.000 And then, was it the dean?

01:41:36.000 Someone there, some student activities advisor, released an official statement saying nothing happened.

01:41:41.000 And so we called him.

01:41:42.000 So that was a follow-up.

01:41:43.000 Oh yeah, I remember listening to that.

01:41:45.000 We started with the Washington, what?

01:41:46.000 We made up something.

01:41:47.000 Washington Herald or something? 1.00

01:41:48.000 It was a really stupid name. 1.00

01:41:50.000 I can't remember what it was. 1.00

01:41:50.000 And we asked who made the statement that this was entirely peaceful. 1.00

01:41:52.000 Because Honey Bee...

01:41:53.000 He said he was speaking on behalf of the police, but never actually quoted a name.

01:41:57.000 So we figured out pretty quickly he was speaking on behalf of himself.

01:42:00.000 And he was a liberal.

01:42:01.000 In his opinion.

01:42:01.000 We found out he was actually a delegate.

01:42:03.000 He was actually officially involved.

01:42:04.000 Ties to Clinton stuff like that.

01:42:05.000 Yeah, ties to Clinton.

01:42:06.000 He was a Clinton staffer.

01:42:07.000 Yeah.

01:42:08.000 The support of Antifa, this open support of it, is very confusing.

01:42:14.000 You've got professors hitting people in the head with bike locks.

01:42:17.000 It sounds absurd, but it's true. 0.97

01:42:19.000 It's not a wise group.

01:42:20.000 This is not a smartly organized refutal of some crazy power structure.

01:42:28.000 This is chaos.

01:42:30.000 Right.

01:42:30.000 It's your question earlier.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, I do think they were, I think they prey on losers of society to become part of, I mean, they were so quick to welcome me in, because they need the numbers, and they're willing to accept anybody.

01:42:42.000 There was no filtration system. 0.99

01:42:43.000 I gotta say that if that was a real That's the saddest fucking faction that they have. 0.99

01:42:50.000 It doesn't matter. 1.00

01:42:50.000 A couple AKs and you're as bad as anybody. 1.00

01:42:52.000 Tell him later that...

01:42:53.000 So Honeybee got arrested.

01:42:55.000 For tasing a guy.

01:42:56.000 Tasing a guy.

01:42:57.000 She tased somebody? 1.00

01:42:59.000 Who'd she tase? 0.99

01:43:00.000 No, the guy sucker punched a different guy.

01:43:03.000 Something happened.

01:43:03.000 There was a dust-up, but she used a taser.

01:43:06.000 Are you misgendered?

01:43:07.000 No, God, I would never do that.

01:43:08.000 Sorry, it's very confusing.

01:43:09.000 I would never.

01:43:09.000 Honeybee was actually there.

01:43:10.000 That's not my character.

01:43:11.000 Honeybee was a late socialist.

01:43:13.000 Got arrested.

01:43:14.000 For tasing a dude.

01:43:15.000 And then, after jail, was texting you.

01:43:19.000 Remember that?

01:43:19.000 Yeah, she wanted her knife back.

01:43:21.000 Oh my god.

01:43:21.000 Because I texted them a picture of me sitting next to Shapiro, full getup, flipping them the bird.

01:43:28.000 You texted them a picture?

01:43:29.000 Yeah, in the encryption app.

01:43:31.000 Oh my god.

01:43:33.000 I should have brought the phone.

01:43:34.000 I should have brought the whole phone.

01:43:35.000 Give me the knife back.

01:43:36.000 I'm going to go to the cops.

01:43:37.000 We were like... 1.00

01:43:37.000 You bastard, give me the knife back. 1.00

01:43:40.000 I was giving him thumbs up. 1.00

01:43:42.000 Oh my god, that's hilarious.

01:43:43.000 And we told him when it was going up on YouTube, like, keep an eye out tomorrow at 6 o'clock on YouTube.

01:43:47.000 So she gets arrested for tasing somebody.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 And then what happens?

01:43:50.000 Now, no heat for her, for all this video of her saying she's got a handgun and AKs.

01:43:56.000 We don't know.

01:43:56.000 I mean, can we say now, I was in a lot of phone calls with the FBI. I was on the premise with the FBI, and they knew...

01:44:04.000 My footage was not terribly surprising to any of them because they were already on their radar.

01:44:10.000 But they did ask how you got in the cryptic app.

01:44:12.000 They were picking my brain for how they function because they are organized to a certain extent.

01:44:17.000 I mean, if they're as organized as the Berkeley faction or as any other faction that's caused trouble, who knows?

01:44:23.000 But to some level, they are.

01:44:25.000 And that's where the FBI used us to kind of help them.

01:44:28.000 What we were talking about earlier, my take on it is that if you're trying to suppress people that hardcore, and it's just a guy who's talking, and that guy turns out to be Ben Shapiro, and you're calling him a Nazi, do you see the yarmulke on his head?

01:44:44.000 Ben Shapiro's a Nazi.

01:44:46.000 Are you out of your mind?

01:44:48.000 You're so far gone that with every single one of these things, it diminishes the credibility of this whole movement.

01:44:56.000 The whole thing just seems preposterous.

01:44:59.000 You're calling everybody a Nazi. 0.98

01:45:00.000 Even a Jewish guy with a yarmulke on, he's a Nazi. 1.00

01:45:03.000 Because he's a white supremacist. 1.00

01:45:05.000 How the fuck is he a white? 1.00

01:45:06.000 You listen to what he's saying. 1.00

01:45:08.000 He's not a white supremacist.

01:45:09.000 He's a conservative.

01:45:11.000 And if you don't think that he's correct, go debate him.

01:45:14.000 Well, it's probably because racist wasn't good enough.

01:45:17.000 Calling him a bigot wasn't good enough.

01:45:18.000 They just escalate to, okay, well, not to get your attention, and it escalates that way.

01:45:22.000 Well, it's like what happened to Jordan Peterson with that woman who had recorded the conversation between the professors that were chastising her for just showing a clip of Jordan Peterson discussing gender pronouns.

01:45:34.000 The professors equated her or equated him to Hitler.

01:45:38.000 They literally equated Jordan Peterson to Hitler and Milo Yiannopoulos, which is a big spectrum.

01:45:44.000 Myle Yiannopoulos, Hitler.

01:45:45.000 Well, not only that, Myle Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro.

01:45:46.000 There are no two people who hated each other more.

01:45:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:50.000 And there's like alt-righters, Myle Yiannopoulos and Ben Shapiro.

01:45:52.000 I'm like, do you realize how much they despise each other?

01:45:54.000 In 2016, Ben Shapiro was the number one recipient of anti-Semitic hate online.

01:46:00.000 Number one.

01:46:00.000 Doesn't surprise me.

01:46:01.000 I mean, that's how crazy it is to call him a Nazi. 0.87

01:46:04.000 I mean, he's super Jewish, too. 0.89

01:46:06.000 I mean, he's as Jewish as it gets.

01:46:07.000 He's as Jewish as it gets. 0.94

01:46:09.000 I don't even send him texts if we're getting near Saturday.

01:46:12.000 I'm serious.

01:46:14.000 You know, they do the shaving thing where you can use an electric trimmer on one port and a straight razor.

01:46:19.000 He's so logical in every other way.

01:46:21.000 He's so hardcore with that.

01:46:23.000 It's so strange.

01:46:23.000 I'd love to talk to him about that.

01:46:25.000 About his Jewishness?

01:46:26.000 Yeah.

01:46:27.000 Just so hardcore with it.

01:46:28.000 Juocity.

01:46:29.000 Juocity?

01:46:29.000 Is that the thing?

01:46:30.000 I don't know.

01:46:30.000 But, you know, Ben and I have been friends for a long, long time.

01:46:34.000 And I think even when I was on the show, I was like, you know, listen, I've never planned to be a debater.

01:46:39.000 It just kind of was thrust upon me sometimes with people on the show.

01:46:42.000 I think I'm a marginally intelligent person.

01:46:45.000 Ben Shapiro is brilliant.

01:46:46.000 It just kind of took a while for people to find him.

01:46:49.000 I think on the show, Ben is the kind of guy, if you want to talk about this and really have someone who goes in the lion's den and he just doesn't care.

01:46:55.000 He just does not care.

01:46:56.000 He wasn't afraid of Milo during that time.

01:47:00.000 Listen, you have to take into consideration Ben Shapiro during this time, right?

01:47:02.000 Ben Shapiro leaves Breitbart.

01:47:04.000 They're smearing his name.

01:47:05.000 He doesn't like Steve Bannon.

01:47:07.000 This is well known.

01:47:09.000 Breitbart is really powerful.

01:47:10.000 Steve Bannon is getting cozy with Donald Trump.

01:47:12.000 Ben Shapiro can't stand Donald Trump.

01:47:14.000 Miley Annapolis is the most popular right-wing sort of commentator, and he's going after Ben.

01:47:18.000 Like, there was a period where I'm sure it was pretty rough for him, and he still stuck to his guns.

01:47:23.000 You've got to respect that with a guy.

01:47:25.000 No, and I like him.

01:47:26.000 He's a very nice guy.

01:47:27.000 I had him on the show, had a great time talking to him.

01:47:29.000 I think he's a very nice guy, very smart guy.

01:47:32.000 I feel like there's something happening right now, culturally.

01:47:36.000 There's so many people that are freaking out because Donald Trump is the president, that everything is ramped up, and no one can be left-wing enough.

01:47:43.000 And I think this is probably one of the reasons why someone would justify having an article like that pedophile thing on Salon.com, and why...

01:47:51.000 It seems to be that you can't be progressive enough. 0.70

01:47:55.000 Everything is getting so over the top and so ridiculous that people are calling other progressives out for not being progressive enough. 0.87

01:48:02.000 They're eating their own. 0.99

01:48:04.000 The pussy hat thing. 0.94

01:48:05.000 Have you heard about that? 0.92

01:48:05.000 Yes. 0.92

01:48:06.000 The transgender community is very upset that if you are a white woman wearing a pussy hat, you are mocking people that are women that don't have pussies. 1.00

01:48:18.000 Specifically black women, because they're not always pink. 1.00

01:48:19.000 No, it is always pink. 0.90

01:48:21.000 Maybe you've seen a couple, but don't say always, because that is just wrong.

01:48:28.000 Internally?

01:48:29.000 Yeah, but you don't know.

01:48:30.000 Who knows?

01:48:31.000 Okay, I'll give you that.

01:48:32.000 You're just taking guesses.

01:48:33.000 I spoke out of turn.

01:48:34.000 Some of them are dark.

01:48:36.000 But the point is, that's how crazy the left wing has gotten. 1.00

01:48:40.000 That wearing a pink pussy hat is offensive because it's offensive to people who are women who have penises. 1.00

01:48:48.000 Literally. 1.00

01:48:49.000 That's what they said. 0.99

01:48:50.000 And people of color who also don't have pink pussies. 1.00

01:48:53.000 Like, fuck you. 1.00

01:48:54.000 Like, pink is obviously a universal color for women. 1.00

01:48:58.000 You're wearing a hat.

01:48:58.000 It's got cat ears.

01:48:59.000 Get it?

01:49:00.000 Get it? 1.00

01:49:01.000 It's not a vagina, you fuck. 1.00

01:49:03.000 It's not like you have a goddamn vagina on your head. 1.00

01:49:05.000 It kind of is. 1.00

01:49:05.000 Some people did. 1.00

01:49:06.000 Some people did.

01:49:07.000 It was a lot. 0.99

01:49:07.000 Yeah, they had some serious vaginas. 0.99

01:49:09.000 We actually, we just didn't have the budget, because Lansing was really, they were actually, like, I think it was Lansing, Michigan. 0.99

01:49:13.000 One of the places that had, like, a ban on a pussy hat. 1.00

01:49:15.000 So we just wanted to show up with 50. Wait a minute. 0.92

01:49:16.000 What?

01:49:17.000 Yeah, there was one...

01:49:17.000 I don't want to speak out of turn.

01:49:19.000 I don't know if it was Lansing.

01:49:19.000 Someplace had a ban.

01:49:20.000 Someplace was like, we just actively discourage it.

01:49:22.000 And we just wanted to show up with 50 guys who were like hardcore feminists. 1.00

01:49:26.000 Well, I'm against that.

01:49:27.000 I'm against that.

01:49:28.000 Now I'm on their side. 0.95

01:49:29.000 We can't ban pussy hats. 1.00

01:49:30.000 We just wanted to show up with 50 people in pussy hats and be like, what? 0.94

01:49:32.000 We didn't know. 0.92

01:49:33.000 But wait a minute, but why?

01:49:34.000 But it's a cat.

01:49:34.000 You made all the poor socialists pay for new hats.

01:49:36.000 They just bought them last year.

01:49:37.000 Right, and these hats are just cat hats. 0.99

01:49:39.000 It's not like a vagina. 1.00

01:49:41.000 It's a cat. 0.99

01:49:42.000 Well, it's a double entendre.

01:49:43.000 It is, but you can't have a double entendre publicly?

01:49:46.000 You can't explain that to your kid?

01:49:48.000 What's going on there, Dad?

01:49:49.000 Oh, little fella. 1.00

01:49:51.000 They like cats.

01:49:53.000 That's it?

01:49:53.000 How hard is that?

01:49:54.000 But why are they screaming? 1.00

01:49:55.000 You can't touch my pussy. 1.00

01:49:58.000 Eat your puberty blockers and shut up. 1.00

01:50:00.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.99

01:50:01.000 I mean, I remember when that happened.

01:50:02.000 It was right after the Women's March.

01:50:04.000 And you and I were talking about it.

01:50:05.000 We were kind of talking.

01:50:07.000 At that point, we were sort of analyzing the idea of pussyhead economics and the wage gap. 0.91

01:50:10.000 And we're talking about this and why that wasn't necessarily true.

01:50:12.000 Now, we're so beyond that.

01:50:14.000 I just go, look, they're mad at their own hats.

01:50:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:19.000 And that's a joke for the night of the show.

01:50:21.000 That's it.

01:50:22.000 That really is it. 1.00

01:50:23.000 They're so crazy, left-wing, progressive, over-the-top, attacking each other that you can't wear a pussy hat anymore. 0.99

01:50:30.000 But who defends it, is my point. 0.99

01:50:31.000 Let's say, like, Anna Kasparian or Cenk or whoever.

01:50:34.000 I'm just using them as an example.

01:50:37.000 It would behoove them to go on air and say, this is why the left loses, right? 0.95

01:50:42.000 Because now you're upset about the pussy hats. 0.97

01:50:44.000 Instead, they go along with it. 0.91

01:50:47.000 We really should have caught that earlier.

01:50:49.000 They got a point.

01:50:50.000 They got a point.

01:50:51.000 Yeah, we should have caught that.

01:50:52.000 I understand it.

01:50:54.000 It's a cat. 0.99

01:50:57.000 Eh, vagina! 1.00

01:50:58.000 But you can't make fun of anything. 0.99

01:51:00.000 I mean, they're in this weird position where if it's a left-wing thing, you can't make fun of it.

01:51:04.000 Even if it's, like, obviously ridiculous, you just ignore it.

01:51:06.000 You ignore it and avoid it because to mock it would be to attack your own team.

01:51:11.000 And that's what it feels like to me.

01:51:13.000 Their own shrinking team.

01:51:14.000 Doesn't it feel...

01:51:14.000 This is totally just me kind of asking...

01:51:18.000 Throwing this to the room.

01:51:19.000 Maybe to YouTube if there's a fan of questions.

01:51:21.000 I'm just asking questions.

01:51:23.000 Um... 0.99

01:51:24.000 Black Lives Matter, Antifa, the pussy, it's kind of all disappeared a little bit. 0.99

01:51:30.000 If you think about it, think about the news. 0.96

01:51:32.000 They're really not very active.

01:51:33.000 It's been like a couple of months.

01:51:35.000 You think of how exponentially volatile everything was?

01:51:38.000 Right.

01:51:39.000 Doesn't it seem like it's kind of faded?

01:51:40.000 I think it's faded because it's proof that it's not this huge grassroots movement.

01:51:46.000 I think they ran out of budget.

01:51:49.000 I hate to say it, but we were talking about the Women's March, and it was like, at that point, they were saying, the biggest march of all time.

01:51:55.000 I said, watch.

01:51:56.000 Watch.

01:51:56.000 Watch the next one.

01:51:57.000 The next one, we went to Denton, Texas.

01:51:59.000 You couldn't find 40 people, because they were paid to show up.

01:52:01.000 It's like the SEA, the Fight for 15. They are these leftist organizations.

01:52:04.000 Yeah, but that's Denton, Texas, and L.A. was giant.

01:52:06.000 No, no, the women's march was huge everywhere. 1.00

01:52:08.000 But the point is, they did a follow-up march, and there was no one.

01:52:11.000 When you don't pay people to show up, and you're not knitting the hats and giving them out, no one shows up.

01:52:15.000 But where, though?

01:52:16.000 In Denton, Texas?

01:52:17.000 No, everywhere.

01:52:18.000 But in LA, they weren't paying people.

01:52:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:20.000 Oh, come on, man.

01:52:21.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:52:22.000 Wait a minute.

01:52:22.000 You think they were paying...

01:52:24.000 Was something like 900,000 people?

01:52:26.000 500,000 people downtown.

01:52:27.000 There were a lot of people.

01:52:28.000 Just to give them a dollar and have them spend all day?

01:52:30.000 No, I think what's a half a million dollar budget.

01:52:32.000 Everyone who works for a leftist think tank, everyone who works for a leftist non-profit, everyone who works for the SEIU or is a part of the union, this now becomes a part of your job description to show up in solidarity and support them.

01:52:43.000 It's the same reason they support Antifa, even though it's silly, and they support Black Lives Matter.

01:52:46.000 I don't think you're right about that.

01:52:47.000 I think there's a lot of people that love to march.

01:52:50.000 They love some sort of a cause.

01:52:53.000 They think they're doing the right thing.

01:52:54.000 They think they're out there protesting.

01:52:56.000 They get excited about it.

01:52:57.000 It's on a Saturday.

01:52:58.000 I don't think any of these people are getting paid.

01:53:00.000 These people are excited about it.

01:53:01.000 They're out there.

01:53:02.000 They're chanting and cheering.

01:53:03.000 And this is what they want to stand proud and be solidified.

01:53:07.000 And two weeks later, none of them show up.

01:53:09.000 What do you mean?

01:53:10.000 There were many women's marches after that.

01:53:12.000 The follow-up, nothing.

01:53:13.000 You look at the Tea Party when it started.

01:53:15.000 You only have to do one.

01:53:16.000 You don't have to keep going all of them.

01:53:18.000 This is January 20th.

01:53:19.000 That's ten days ago.

01:53:21.000 Oh, this is the recent one.

01:53:23.000 Yeah, this is giant.

01:53:23.000 This is big, but they do it once a year, they can gather their troops.

01:53:27.000 I think you're crazy.

01:53:29.000 I don't think they pay people. 0.94

01:53:30.000 We signed up for the Fight for 15. What's that?

01:53:33.000 The SEIU. We're on all the mailing lists.

01:53:35.000 So we're on all the mailing lists as to where these things meet and when.

01:53:37.000 Fight for 15?

01:53:38.000 What does that mean?

01:53:39.000 Yeah, hashtag Fight for 15. What does that mean?

01:53:40.000 That's the Fight for 15 minimum wage. 1.00

01:53:42.000 Oh.

01:53:43.000 Yeah, that's a union sponsor minimum wage thing.

01:53:45.000 Okay.

01:53:45.000 Same thing with the women's marches.

01:53:47.000 Remember when we showed up and we asked them, the ones outside of the Big Ant?

01:53:50.000 The only people who were there were paid.

01:53:51.000 I hate speakers.

01:53:52.000 Okay, well that's different.

01:53:54.000 Okay, that's a different march, but I think the women's march is pretty legit. 1.00

01:53:57.000 I think these people are doing it because they don't like having this guy in power.

01:54:01.000 They wanted a woman. 0.70

01:54:02.000 There's two things going on.

01:54:03.000 One, they wanted a woman to be president.

01:54:04.000 They thought a woman was going to be president, and then it was snatched from them.

01:54:08.000 Snatched.

01:54:09.000 Snatched.

01:54:10.000 Snatched away.

01:54:12.000 Start selling a hat.

01:54:13.000 And then, you know, he's... 1.00

01:54:15.000 He's just a fucking crazy guy. 1.00

01:54:17.000 Donald Trump's a crazy guy. 1.00

01:54:19.000 But he's going to be a crazy guy the next month when you're doing another march or protest, but no one shows up. 1.00

01:54:23.000 They think somehow or another that it's going to have an impact.

01:54:26.000 It doesn't.

01:54:27.000 It does culturally, like people are aware of it, but it doesn't have any impact on him.

01:54:31.000 I don't think most of them even know what they want to impact on. 0.55

01:54:35.000 Find his tweet, because it was goddamn hilarious. 0.60

01:54:37.000 About the women's march? 0.96

01:54:38.000 About what a wonderful day it is for you to be out there marching.

01:54:44.000 Those are the moments where I think, like, maybe he is self-aware.

01:54:46.000 Well, he is, but the point is, like, you look at pro-life marches and things, hundreds of thousands of people, all the time.

01:54:52.000 Yeah.

01:54:52.000 All the time.

01:54:52.000 Here it is.

01:54:53.000 Trump tweets in support of Women's March.

01:54:55.000 That's also protesting him.

01:54:58.000 Go to the tweet.

01:54:59.000 What was it?

01:54:59.000 I'm trying to remember.

01:55:00.000 Here's his tweet.

01:55:01.000 Beautiful weather.

01:55:01.000 Beautiful weather all over the great country.

01:55:03.000 That's a good impression.

01:55:05.000 Go ahead.

01:55:06.000 Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months.

01:55:13.000 Lowest female unemployment in 18 years! 0.84

01:55:15.000 Come on. 0.99

01:55:16.000 That's fucking funny, man. 1.00

01:55:17.000 I don't give a shit what you're saying. 1.00

01:55:18.000 209,000. 0.99

01:55:19.000 I don't care if you're a supporter. 0.98

01:55:21.000 If you're a person who appreciates comedy, that's fucking strong trolling right there. 0.98

01:55:26.000 You know how many trolley... 0.97

01:55:28.000 What's her name?

01:55:28.000 Trolleypuff?

01:55:29.000 What's her name?

01:55:30.000 Trolleypuff.

01:55:30.000 You know how many of them were sitting in front of the computer?

01:55:33.000 Just died. 1.00

01:55:34.000 Fucking screaming. 1.00

01:55:36.000 How many holes got punched into laptops? 1.00

01:55:39.000 People are angry at that.

01:55:40.000 That's hilarious.

01:55:42.000 Think about the march or the protests we went to in Grand Rapids.

01:55:46.000 The Socialist March.

01:55:47.000 Yeah, that was really marketed as being really big. 0.99

01:55:50.000 Could you imagine the balls? 0.61

01:55:51.000 But to your point that they were pissed off that these students who were, like a lot of people, just there for the movement, were pissed off that the union people didn't show up and they're supposed to come in in the busloads, the union workers, and didn't show up. 0.97

01:56:03.000 The only people who showed up were the people paid by the organization.

01:56:04.000 And that's one thing we found.

01:56:05.000 So like the Utah Antifa.

01:56:07.000 And the reason we say this is every time we show up, we found it actually from a leftist activist group.

01:56:11.000 It's about, what did we average?

01:56:13.000 A twelfth of the people who say they're interested in going.

01:56:16.000 Something like a twelfth.

01:56:17.000 Reg came up with a number.

01:56:18.000 They like Facebook.

01:56:19.000 They don't really like to show up.

01:56:20.000 Yeah.

01:56:21.000 If 120 people say attending, it'll be like eight.

01:56:25.000 It is consistent to the point where we have to determine what events we go to or what is funny enough to cover.

01:56:30.000 Because even if it'll say a few thousand people are going to a march, inevitably it's far, far less. 0.98

01:56:35.000 You have to run it through the bullshit algorithms. 0.99

01:56:36.000 Yeah, we've had so many. 0.99

01:56:38.000 Does this depend on where you're talking about?

01:56:40.000 Like if you're in Lansing, Michigan, maybe.

01:56:42.000 But if you're in L.A., these marches are giant.

01:56:44.000 Well, you're in L.A. No, but there are some, but for every one that you see that the media says, okay, this is all hands on deck, there are 40, no one shows up.

01:56:52.000 We had that even in New York City with the fight for 15. That makes sense, though.

01:56:55.000 I mean, how many times can you get people to march?

01:56:58.000 Well, not even march.

01:56:58.000 Show up for any protest.

01:57:00.000 How many times can you get people to protest?

01:57:02.000 I mean, you can only get a few of those out of a person in a year.

01:57:05.000 I disagree.

01:57:06.000 You think people are just down to do it all the time?

01:57:08.000 The Tea Party thing was hundreds of thousands, like every other month, like clockwork, and then they won an election.

01:57:13.000 That's different, though.

01:57:14.000 The Hawaii J-20 group.

01:57:16.000 Oh yeah, that was another thing we got kicked out of.

01:57:18.000 The Hawaii G-20 group.

01:57:19.000 J-20.

01:57:20.000 J-20.

01:57:21.000 I don't know.

01:57:21.000 It was an undercover thing.

01:57:22.000 We got kicked out.

01:57:22.000 Not much.

01:57:23.000 Hawaii J-20?

01:57:24.000 Was it J-20?

01:57:24.000 It's called J-20.

01:57:25.000 I don't know why.

01:57:26.000 I don't know.

01:57:26.000 What's it about?

01:57:27.000 What was it about?

01:57:28.000 Socialist immigration.

01:57:30.000 And resist Trump movement and hashtags. 0.95

01:57:32.000 Do you imagine the balls it takes to beat Trump? 0.88

01:57:34.000 You got literally a million people out there protesting and you make a tweet like that? 0.96

01:57:39.000 It's pretty funny.

01:57:40.000 Pretty funny. 1.00

01:57:41.000 Fucking balls. 1.00

01:57:42.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:57:42.000 You gotta give him that. 1.00

01:57:44.000 You gotta give him that.

01:57:44.000 You gotta set on him for that.

01:57:45.000 Whether you agree with him or not, just take that away, take all that time away, and just look at what he just did there.

01:57:51.000 And you gotta wonder, like, if Churchill had Twitter, you know, would it be this?

01:57:57.000 Is it just that he has the tools now?

01:57:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:59.000 Well, this is unprecedented.

01:58:01.000 There's never been, I mean, not only that, like, he's got a style.

01:58:05.000 Like, sad.

01:58:06.000 Like, this style of saying things and then writing sad.

01:58:09.000 And then attacking people. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Like, who the fuck has ever been the president and has personally attacked Lion Ted, Crooked Hillary? 0.99

01:58:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:18.000 I mean, he's, what does he call Sloppy Steve Bannon?

01:58:21.000 Is that what he calls him now?

01:58:22.000 Yeah, he calls him Sloppy Steve.

01:58:23.000 It's not even just political people, either.

01:58:24.000 I mean, just a couple days ago, he went after somebody, some rapper or something.

01:58:28.000 Jay-Z! Jay-Z was talking about how he goes, Jay-Z apparently doesn't understand that the lowest unemployment rate for blacks ever is going on right now.

01:58:37.000 Because that really affects Jay-Z a lot.

01:58:39.000 He knows a lot of poor black people.

01:58:40.000 Why hasn't he responded to Eminem?

01:58:42.000 He responds if they're Jay-Z, but not Eminem. 0.93

01:58:44.000 Eminem's too vicious and he's white. 0.97

01:58:46.000 That's another moment where I think he might be self-aware enough. 0.96

01:58:50.000 That was so prefab when people were like, oh man, you just got burned.

01:58:53.000 We actually did a sketch with Owen Benjamin doing the Eminem thing. 0.76

01:58:55.000 It was like a Jewish executive writing and stuff like, it's gonna kill, kid. 1.00

01:58:58.000 Call the president a bitch. 1.00

01:59:00.000 Yeah, I felt like it could have been better. 1.00

01:59:04.000 But it pissed Eminem off more that he didn't respond.

01:59:06.000 Right.

01:59:07.000 Which is another moment you gotta think, maybe he's self-aware.

01:59:10.000 Maybe he knows what's...

01:59:10.000 Because he said he had the next...

01:59:11.000 He was like Macaulay Culkin when the criminals were coming to his house.

01:59:14.000 He was like, if Donald Trump responds, I'll be ready.

01:59:17.000 And Donald Trump was like, okay.

01:59:19.000 Yeah, good luck.

01:59:20.000 That was it.

01:59:20.000 I don't care.

01:59:21.000 And you know Eminem had already had his neck cipher written.

01:59:23.000 Like, come on.

01:59:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:59:26.000 Like, the pauses and everything were fake.

01:59:28.000 It's like, you know, hold up.

01:59:29.000 Wait a minute.

01:59:30.000 You know, like, oh, come on.

01:59:32.000 It's like a comic who, like, I'm gonna take suggestions from the audience. 0.96

01:59:35.000 Oh, it's McDonald's and you're a nerd.

01:59:37.000 Well, you know you've done this act 50 times.

01:59:39.000 It was like a stand in the back when you don't like the audience.

01:59:42.000 You ever watch one of those and you're like, this doesn't work.

01:59:44.000 There's a big long pause.

01:59:45.000 But this was intentional.

01:59:47.000 He had time to post production.

01:59:49.000 My favorite part was how he's got a bunch of black people sitting around watching him.

01:59:52.000 Yeah.

01:59:53.000 That's my favorite part.

01:59:54.000 I know.

01:59:55.000 They're all sitting around watching and he's doing all the talking.

01:59:58.000 And he's not buddies with all of them.

02:00:00.000 He wants you to think that.

02:00:00.000 They came straight out of central casting.

02:00:02.000 You think?

02:00:03.000 Some of them.

02:00:05.000 I think some of them.

02:00:06.000 Were they paid by the same people that paid the women to march?

02:00:08.000 Yeah, I think they were paid by the SEIU. Soros.

02:00:10.000 I'm not fine for 15. I'm sitting through a shitty cipher. 0.98

02:00:14.000 Okay. 0.77

02:00:14.000 It's one of the best moments ever when Alex Jones got high on the podcast and then it came up during his divorce hearing. 0.77

02:00:21.000 He goes, I only smoke marijuana once a year to find out if George Soros is making it stronger.

02:00:27.000 They're doing something to the weed.

02:00:28.000 I got to test it for potency.

02:00:32.000 Soros. 1.00

02:00:32.000 Imagine Soros sitting there in his fucking castle somewhere. 1.00

02:00:36.000 Jack up the potency in the weed. 1.00

02:00:42.000 He makes the call.

02:00:44.000 That is funny.

02:00:45.000 These kids aren't getting high enough.

02:00:47.000 Did he actually say that?

02:00:49.000 Call Murdoch.

02:00:49.000 Tell him to checkmate.

02:00:50.000 He not only said that, he couldn't remember his kids' teachers' names.

02:00:53.000 So he said, well, I had a big bowl of chili today.

02:00:55.000 I can't remember.

02:00:58.000 He said I have a big bowl of chili.

02:01:00.000 I can't remember.

02:01:01.000 Has he been on the show since then?

02:01:02.000 No.

02:01:02.000 It's too much of a liability with the court proceedings?

02:01:04.000 No, I'd have him on.

02:01:04.000 I'd have him on.

02:01:05.000 I just wonder for him if his lawyers would be careful.

02:01:07.000 No, he wants to be on.

02:01:07.000 He just hasn't been in L.A. He asked me to do his show in Austin, and I'm sorry, Alex, I couldn't do it.

02:01:12.000 I was in and out.

02:01:13.000 I was in like two hours before my shows.

02:01:16.000 I had two shows that night, and I had to fly out at 7 a.m.

02:01:18.000 the next day.

02:01:19.000 Well, he's a very hospitable guy. 0.99

02:01:21.000 He's aggressively hospitable, because he left me a voicemail when we were all sitting there, and we were like, hey, Jared, come on, come on, don't be a pussy, just right down the street, come on. 0.93

02:01:29.000 Antifa was just chasing us around, and they were like, if you find this guy, punch him and let us know, and we had people snapping pictures of us, and so we got to go, this is what we did, we were undercover at South by Southwest, and we get a voicemail like, I just don't understand why we have studios here and we can protect you, and we're just like, you don't understand,

02:01:45.000 we are halfway to Waco, we're out of town.

02:01:48.000 He was really trying to be very hospitable, but we were just trying to get out of town.

02:01:52.000 I got more hate from that episode, too.

02:01:55.000 But also, I was like, look, don't you see why I love him?

02:01:57.000 Like, you see him when he's drunk and stoned, and we're having a great time.

02:02:01.000 He's talking about interdimensional child molesters. 0.99

02:02:03.000 He was crazy. 0.65

02:02:04.000 That's great television. 1.00

02:02:05.000 He's crazy. 0.90

02:02:06.000 That's great television.

02:02:07.000 Alex Jones is a fun guy.

02:02:09.000 And look, I don't believe everything he believes.

02:02:12.000 I mean, he believed Sandy Hook was fake.

02:02:14.000 Yeah, that's a rough one.

02:02:15.000 It's a rough one.

02:02:16.000 I think he's dropped that since then, and he tries to come up with some caveats or something like that, or some things when we're not shown that we're real.

02:02:24.000 New evidence has come to my attention. 0.98

02:02:26.000 Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that was all about. 0.98

02:02:29.000 I've heard that one from a few careless people. 0.99

02:02:31.000 I'm like, man, you can't say that.

02:02:32.000 Well then there was the Vegas thing with a conspiracy.

02:02:35.000 That's a lot of people think that one.

02:02:37.000 That's a weird one.

02:02:38.000 But here's where nothing's come up since then.

02:02:39.000 That is weird.

02:02:40.000 Here's the Vegas one.

02:02:42.000 Here's what's weird about the Vegas one.

02:02:43.000 It seems like there's differing opinions on timelines.

02:02:47.000 There's differing stories, rather, on timelines.

02:02:49.000 There's a possibility that someone may have aided him. 1.00

02:02:53.000 And the guy was a fucking evil cunt. 1.00

02:02:56.000 He covered his tracks. 1.00

02:02:58.000 I mean, it's almost like he wanted people to go crazy.

02:03:00.000 Search warrant document shows second person of interest after Las Vegas shooting.

02:03:03.000 What was this?

02:03:04.000 That's in the last couple of hours.

02:03:06.000 Really?

02:03:06.000 A judge unsealed documents and a guy's name Douglas Haig or something popped up.

02:03:10.000 Okay, well there you go.

02:03:11.000 That's interesting.

02:03:12.000 But that Las Vegas review, I mean, who else is reporting this?

02:03:14.000 It makes me...

02:03:14.000 Everywhere, everywhere.

02:03:15.000 Is it everywhere?

02:03:16.000 Okay.

02:03:16.000 Yeah, so I... I would imagine that what's going on is there's probably somebody that helped him get the guns and helped him move them up into the room or something along the lines.

02:03:24.000 Sure.

02:03:24.000 Makes a lot of sense.

02:03:25.000 Yeah.

02:03:25.000 No, I mean, there were people saying, like, the bodies were fake and that kind of stuff.

02:03:28.000 They're out of their mind.

02:03:29.000 I know somebody who got shot there.

02:03:30.000 Yeah.

02:03:31.000 I know somebody who got shot there.

02:03:32.000 One of the girls who was a ring card girl was there while it happened, and she escaped narrowly with her life while people were dropping right in front of her as she was running.

02:03:40.000 Her name's Ashley.

02:03:42.000 As she was running, people were getting shot right in front of her.

02:03:45.000 Dan Bilzerian was there.

02:03:46.000 Dan told me he saw a ladies' That's right. 0.99

02:03:49.000 He said a lady's head exploded right in front of him.

02:03:52.000 Yeah.

02:03:54.000 That's where let's say there's a conspiracy.

02:03:56.000 Let's say this is a second person helped him.

02:03:58.000 Let's even say there's a second shooter.

02:03:59.000 Could have been.

02:04:00.000 Could have been.

02:04:01.000 It doesn't undo the horror.

02:04:02.000 It doesn't mean there was some conspiracy necessarily to cover up a second shooter.

02:04:05.000 Maybe there's new information that's come to light.

02:04:07.000 And there's often a grain of truth sometimes.

02:04:09.000 And then people go, therefore, ba-da [...]-da.

02:04:13.000 Right.

02:04:13.000 Someone was trying to tell me, they reported shooters at all these other casinos, but then the news never covered it.

02:04:18.000 I go, no, you don't understand. 0.98

02:04:20.000 When there's 50 people that get murdered by a guy who's shooting out of a fucking Mandalay Bay window, you're going to have chaos. 0.99

02:04:27.000 And when you have chaos, people run into casinos. 0.99

02:04:29.000 There's a shooter.

02:04:30.000 They'll run into Circus Circus.

02:04:31.000 They'll run into MGM. They'll scream, there's a shooter.

02:04:34.000 People get on the phone.

02:04:35.000 They call.

02:04:36.000 They call security.

02:04:36.000 There's a shooter at the MGM. It doesn't mean there's a shooter at the MGM. It means there's chaos.

02:04:41.000 Right.

02:04:41.000 And you get A lot of bad information.

02:04:44.000 Placed with a lot of echo, I'm sure, too.

02:04:45.000 So in the middle of chaos, you don't know where it's coming from.

02:04:48.000 Reflections and lights and echo.

02:04:51.000 One of the girls that was at the UFC, she got her leg blown out because someone got shot and killed right in front of her and the guy fell on her leg and it blew her ACL out.

02:04:59.000 One of the fighters from the UFC? No, no, no.

02:05:02.000 One of the girls who was at the event.

02:05:03.000 And then Dana White got a bunch of people that got shot and everything.

02:05:07.000 And Dana White's the best.

02:05:08.000 And he brought these people to the event.

02:05:10.000 And, you know, it's like, we did an event that week, man.

02:05:13.000 I did a comedy show that week.

02:05:16.000 I did a comedy show at the Mirage that Friday.

02:05:19.000 I donated all the money to the Vegas Victims Fund, but it was just like, it was weird.

02:05:24.000 The whole thing was weird.

02:05:26.000 Yeah, that is.

02:05:26.000 And it is weird, too, that, you know, it's like, okay, a country music festival?

02:05:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:05:31.000 Those are right-wing people.

02:05:32.000 I mean, so I'm not saying this is a left-wing extremist, but it is weird that we didn't really hear a whole lot after that. 0.99

02:05:36.000 This guy didn't give a fuck who he was killing. 0.98

02:05:38.000 He wasn't trying to kill country music people. 0.99

02:05:40.000 He did this at other music events, too, where he showed up and scanned it and got hotel rooms and overlooked the exact same sort of a scenario.

02:05:48.000 He was plotting this. 0.98

02:05:50.000 He just wanted to kill a bunch of people and then kill himself. 0.98

02:05:53.000 And by the way, here's another guy that was on some sort of psych medication.

02:05:57.000 And this is a constant in these mass shooters.

02:05:59.000 And this is one of the things that gets ignored. 0.98

02:06:01.000 And it should be fucking front and center in everybody's mind. 0.94

02:06:05.000 They should be thinking, what are we doing to people by giving them these pills? 0.99

02:06:08.000 What the fuck are we doing? 0.98

02:06:09.000 Wasn't it just like Xanax or something? 1.00

02:06:11.000 He was on anti-anxiety medication, which has, by the way, same kind of shit that Chris Cornell was on when he hung himself. 0.99

02:06:17.000 That anti-anxiety medication is no joke. 0.98

02:06:20.000 And who knows what kind of a weird, adverse reaction you're going to have to that stuff.

02:06:24.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:24.000 People react.

02:06:25.000 They do the genetic testing now.

02:06:27.000 And I've done that for...

02:06:28.000 I don't know if you've done that.

02:06:28.000 Like, now they do it as a consumer thing.

02:06:30.000 23andMe, I think.

02:06:31.000 Right, yeah.

02:06:32.000 But actually, my doctor actually did genetic testing where we did it in the office to check, you know, for predispositions towards diseases.

02:06:37.000 And also you can check to see which medications you might have negative interactions with.

02:06:41.000 And they found out for me there were certain painkillers that would be really bad that I wouldn't process super effectively and then some that would work.

02:06:48.000 Same thing as far as even like, I think it was Celebrex would have been worse for me to take than Advil.

02:06:54.000 So things like that, like this actually works better with your body chemistry.

02:06:57.000 And then when you get to psychotropic medication, I mean, think about it.

02:07:01.000 Like, I had negative interactions with a list of whatever antidepressants were on there.

02:07:05.000 Like, do not take.

02:07:06.000 There was a green column, yellow column, red column.

02:07:09.000 And most people don't know.

02:07:10.000 And it's not entirely accurate.

02:07:11.000 But they're saying that it's increasing the efficacy of medication by, like, 50% using this as a guideline.

02:07:18.000 That's fascinating.

02:07:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:20.000 And, you know, and by the way, that guy's whole family is fucking crazy. 1.00

02:07:23.000 That guy's dad was a serial bank robber. 1.00

02:07:26.000 The guy's brother got busted for child pornography.

02:07:30.000 That's what Whitney Cummings brought up the other day.

02:07:31.000 She thought it was the shooter.

02:07:32.000 It was actually his brother.

02:07:33.000 I remember it after the fact.

02:07:35.000 They found some on his computer, too, apparently.

02:07:36.000 Did they?

02:07:36.000 Yeah.

02:07:37.000 Damn. 1.00

02:07:37.000 The whole family's fucking kids. 1.00

02:07:40.000 The shooter shot with pornography? 1.00

02:07:41.000 Yeah.

02:07:42.000 One of the laptops that was in the room, one of the five laptops had apparently something.

02:07:45.000 Maybe he borrowed it from his brother.

02:07:47.000 That's his excuse.

02:07:48.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 Guaranteed that's what he told the cops.

02:07:50.000 Right before he shot himself.

02:07:51.000 Well, apparently someone fired a gun in the room besides him, too. 1.00

02:07:56.000 Who fuck knows? 0.99

02:07:57.000 Well, that was all in the room service bill. 0.99

02:07:58.000 That was something that there were a lot of conspiracies.

02:08:01.000 And that's like an example where I think people said no one had been to the room for a long time.

02:08:04.000 And then there was a room service bill that said someone had been to the room.

02:08:06.000 Room service.

02:08:07.000 And then it looked like, I think, by the amount of food that there were possibly two people in the room.

02:08:11.000 I'm like, I've known fat people who go to the drive-thru and order two Diet Cokes because it makes them feel less guilty.

02:08:16.000 Check to see how much I eat.

02:08:17.000 Your room service bill?

02:08:18.000 Dude, I'll go to the gym and then I'll order room service and people are like, how many people?

02:08:23.000 I'm like, one.

02:08:23.000 They're like, are you sure?

02:08:24.000 I'm like, bring it up, bitch. 1.00

02:08:26.000 I order two entrees all the time. 1.00

02:08:28.000 Yeah.

02:08:29.000 Well, because usually, yeah, especially if you're getting, like, you want two times the meat or you want two times the meat. 0.95

02:08:33.000 Yeah, if I'm lifting, I fucking get hungry, man. 0.92

02:08:35.000 I just go crazy. 0.92

02:08:36.000 Mark Ripito ordering double meat that one time we went out with him.

02:08:39.000 Oh, my gosh.

02:08:39.000 He was just an animal.

02:08:41.000 But, yeah. 0.69

02:08:41.000 Double meat? 0.69

02:08:42.000 Double meat.

02:08:43.000 Just double the meat.

02:08:45.000 It's like, we don't do that.

02:08:46.000 Like, figure it out.

02:08:47.000 Yeah, he's a strength trainer, and he's also a scientist, and he wrote Starting Strengths, and he just...

02:08:51.000 We were somewhere, and he just asked the server.

02:08:53.000 Yeah, he went double the brisket.

02:08:54.000 He goes...

02:08:55.000 Uh, please double the meat.

02:08:57.000 She goes, uh, so you want a dollar more?

02:09:00.000 You want two dollars more?

02:09:00.000 He says, figure it out.

02:09:03.000 That's not a good thing to say to someone who's handling your food.

02:09:08.000 No, probably not. 1.00

02:09:08.000 Figure this out, bitch. 1.00

02:09:09.000 But the room service bill, that was something where I read it and I was going, oh, that's curious, right? 0.99

02:09:13.000 The room service bill.

02:09:13.000 That's my point is what's a kernel of truth of some of these conspiracies.

02:09:16.000 But people, they go, hold on a second, the room service bill has two tuna fish sandwiches and one steak tartare, therefore the Jews. 1.00

02:09:22.000 You know, it's like, well, hold on a second.

02:09:23.000 You're making a huge leap, and it makes it hard.

02:09:26.000 There's a plus side to new media, which we talk about this all the time.

02:09:30.000 We feel a lot of responsibility, especially being more of an entertainment show, where it's great because you can do this show, and you don't have the same kind of time constraints, and you can talk about things authentically, as long as for the YouTube stuff they allow us to.

02:09:42.000 But on the flip side is anyone can get information out there, and there are people willing to capitalize on that and proactively lie.

02:09:47.000 Right.

02:09:47.000 And so, like, I get it.

02:09:49.000 That's a problem.

02:09:49.000 But the solution is not to have a bunch of people in Silicon Valley determining what's right.

02:09:54.000 Well, I mean, it's just like those flat earth fucks. 0.96

02:09:57.000 You can make a video on anything. 0.99

02:09:59.000 I mean, if you want to make a video, and if it's compelling, the same flat earth guy, he's got a video on dinosaurs not being real, nuclear bombs being fake, satellites being fake, jujitsu doesn't work, Wing Chun is the shit. 1.00

02:10:09.000 He's out of his fucking mind, this guy. 1.00

02:10:12.000 And people ignore that. 1.00

02:10:14.000 They ignore that.

02:10:15.000 And just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:10:16.000 But this flat earth thing is pretty compelling, man.

02:10:18.000 Got to look into it.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:10:20.000 But a keto, I wouldn't be there.

02:10:21.000 Yeah.

02:10:22.000 If you came at me, I would not be there.

02:10:24.000 I'd sidestep you.

02:10:25.000 Oh my god.

02:10:26.000 Yeah, that's one of my favorite things to do, just watch those on YouTube.

02:10:29.000 Oh, I post those on Instagram left and right.

02:10:31.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:10:31.000 With hashtag, if you just look at hashtag legit as fuck, that's my hashtag I put up with all fake martial arts videos. 0.95

02:10:40.000 I have like, I don't know how many of them I posted. 0.90

02:10:42.000 There's an Illuminati frame somewhere in there and you're set. 0.97

02:10:46.000 I'm not going to stop posting them, man, because now when you repost them, my fucking Instagram is getting flagged. 0.96

02:10:51.000 Like, people are claiming them. 0.96

02:10:53.000 A martial arts video?

02:10:54.000 Yeah, even if they didn't make them, they can claim them and say it's theirs, and they can get it taken down from Facebook or Instagram.

02:11:00.000 They didn't necessarily film them, but if they say it's theirs, you have to prove it's not theirs.

02:11:06.000 There's a lot of squirrely people out there when it comes to videos online.

02:11:09.000 Especially the people who are flat-earth video claimers.

02:11:12.000 Well, one person tried to argue that with me, and you know the whole Mandela effect?

02:11:16.000 That's another thing they're into?

02:11:17.000 He's like, it's Baron Steinbears, not Berensteinbears.

02:11:21.000 He thought that was going to convince me.

02:11:22.000 I'm going, what?

02:11:22.000 Because it was Kazam, not Shazam, the genie movie with Shaq.

02:11:25.000 That's a big thing for them.

02:11:26.000 This is the hill they die on.

02:11:27.000 But the same person was a flat earther and said something like, okay, it's an easy test.

02:11:31.000 The earth is spinning, right?

02:11:33.000 If it's spinning a thousand miles an hour, okay?

02:11:35.000 You go up in a helicopter, don't move, go back down.

02:11:37.000 If you're in the same place...

02:11:39.000 It's a lie.

02:11:39.000 You know it.

02:11:40.000 And I said, hold on a second.

02:11:41.000 Like, I'm not a scientist, but I know if I throw a baseball from the back of the bus, it's going to the front of the bus because we're starting at the same velocity.

02:11:48.000 I mean, this is basic physics that you would learn in high school.

02:11:50.000 So that's where, for me, I was like...

02:11:52.000 Mount St. Helens doesn't volcano this way.

02:11:54.000 Well, that's...

02:11:54.000 That's what they say, too.

02:11:55.000 They're like, why doesn't it do this?

02:11:56.000 They just don't understand science.

02:11:58.000 They don't understand physics.

02:11:59.000 And they say things, and it's compelling to people. 1.00

02:12:02.000 There's photos of the fucking glaciers in Antarctica. 0.99

02:12:05.000 And they're like, look, it's the ice wall! 0.99

02:12:07.000 Like, they really believe there's an ice wall.

02:12:09.000 That would be cool if there was.

02:12:10.000 Pretty badass.

02:12:11.000 We'll save Donald Trump some money.

02:12:12.000 But imagine anybody keeping that secret.

02:12:15.000 Imagine someone...

02:12:16.000 What?

02:12:16.000 Why?

02:12:17.000 Well, Jamie's got Round Earth Shill t-shirts for sale at youngjamie.com.

02:12:21.000 Sold out right now.

02:12:21.000 Oh, do you?

02:12:22.000 Sold out, bitch. 1.00

02:12:23.000 That's the question, though, why? 1.00

02:12:25.000 Right?

02:12:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:12:26.000 Like, we're not scientists, and there's a bunch that you could probably, someone could come on and talk about the Earth's core and talk about the gravitational pull that we'd be like, oh, wow, that's really, I didn't know that. 0.97

02:12:33.000 I feel like an idiot.

02:12:34.000 But, I can't ask, why would anyone want to convince me there's a flat Earth? 0.99

02:12:40.000 Yeah, or why would anyone want to convince you that it's round when it's actually flat?

02:12:44.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

02:12:45.000 Big round earth is profiting too much. 1.00

02:12:47.000 People just love bullshit. 1.00

02:12:49.000 They get off on it. 1.00

02:12:50.000 There's an audience for it.

02:12:51.000 Yeah.

02:12:51.000 100%.

02:12:51.000 But they enjoy it.

02:12:53.000 I think they really enjoy bullshit. 0.99

02:12:55.000 Like, I think people get excited about things that they can try to uncover. 0.99

02:12:59.000 I think it's like some human thing.

02:13:01.000 Like, I think they're going to attack us.

02:13:04.000 You know, there's like a secret sort of like, not a secret, but like a thing in your head about uncovering secrets.

02:13:11.000 I think it appeals to the contrarians, too.

02:13:13.000 They just like to piss people off.

02:13:15.000 They like to dig. 0.92

02:13:16.000 And a lot of them are just really uneducated.

02:13:18.000 I mean, super uneducated.

02:13:20.000 Like, they just don't understand basic physics.

02:13:23.000 Like, just a few things.

02:13:24.000 The martial arts thing is a good example with that.

02:13:26.000 Because Nagajita is starting to do jiu-jitsu.

02:13:29.000 Where are you training?

02:13:31.000 This is where we're from.

02:13:32.000 Actually, the guy who does my security is a black belt.

02:13:34.000 Oh, okay.

02:13:35.000 Cool.

02:13:35.000 And so he's just starting to, we're going to come into this studio and do kind of some privates with him.

02:13:39.000 This guy's, he's a crazy, insanely, insanely strong dude.

02:13:43.000 Just one of those guys who you look at and you go, oh, it doesn't matter if I trained my whole life, I wouldn't be that strong.

02:13:46.000 You know, he walked in in high school to a gym.

02:13:48.000 Mark Ripto's gym.

02:13:49.000 Gotta get some of that Buck Angel in here. 1.00

02:13:50.000 No, no, no, no.

02:13:51.000 This guy walked in at 16. 16. And I found this because it was corroborated by Mark Ripto in Wichita Falls, Texas.

02:13:57.000 When he found out this guy's name.

02:13:58.000 Good old Mark.

02:13:58.000 Well, he just said, he said, wait, are you talking about so-and-so who was a friend of mine?

02:14:02.000 Totally accidental.

02:14:03.000 And he goes, that man came into my gym at 16 years old and accidentally snatched 270 pounds.

02:14:10.000 Jesus.

02:14:11.000 So this guy is, anyways, but you're a super nice guy.

02:14:13.000 We're a super nice guy.

02:14:13.000 Like, church-going Christian, we always kind of joke about him where he's like, you know, I know, like, you know, you can see there's something burning beneath the surface.

02:14:20.000 He's like, you know, I know it's not, I know it's not good, but I wanted to kill him.

02:14:25.000 Like, at one point he was doing security at SMU, and he was like, I could see him walking up to him. 0.86

02:14:29.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, stop.

02:14:30.000 You can see just that little bit.

02:14:32.000 Nicest guy with the shortest fuse.

02:14:33.000 But...

02:14:34.000 It's always amazing to me that people just deny it.

02:14:37.000 And it's like, hold on a second.

02:14:38.000 Show me what you're talking about, the Flat Earth thing.

02:14:40.000 Aikido.

02:14:41.000 Show me one video ever in the history of mankind of Aikido winning a fight against a mixed martial arts guy.

02:14:49.000 Or I had someone who believed that Steven Seagal was a legitimate fighter.

02:14:51.000 I said, okay, that's a claim.

02:14:53.000 One video ever in the history of Steven Seagal.

02:14:57.000 Fighting an unwilling opponent. 0.99

02:14:58.000 You never got more crap than our Bruce... 0.99

02:15:00.000 Our Bruce Lee video. 1.00

02:15:02.000 Oh, you shit on Bruce Lee. 1.00

02:15:03.000 No, we didn't. 1.00

02:15:03.000 I said he was a good theorist and he was one of the early sort of mixed martial arts adopters. 1.00

02:15:07.000 But the fact is, Bruce Lee would get killed by a decent flyweight in the UFC. And people are like, how dare you?

02:15:13.000 Well, that's true.

02:15:15.000 And also, the reality is the martial arts from 1970 versus the martial arts from 2018. There's been more radical change in martial arts, the understanding of technique since 1993 to 2018 than there's ever been in the history of martial arts.

02:15:31.000 And Bruce Lee was responsible for a big shift from 1970 to the UFC. It's very hard to find a single UFC fighter that wasn't a Bruce Lee fan or isn't currently a Bruce Lee fan.

02:15:42.000 Including me.

02:15:43.000 And I think that what he did was introduce this open-minded approach to martial arts.

02:15:48.000 Right.

02:15:48.000 Taking what's useful from boxing, from wrestling.

02:15:51.000 I mean, look, he entered the dragon.

02:15:52.000 He's doing an armbar.

02:15:53.000 You know, he killed somebody. 0.78

02:15:55.000 He killed Chuck Norris with a guillotine.

02:15:56.000 It wasn't the best.

02:15:58.000 But I understand what you're saying.

02:15:59.000 Yeah, but he's doing weird stuff.

02:16:00.000 He's doing...

02:16:01.000 He obviously wasn't a black belt in jujitsu.

02:16:03.000 No.

02:16:05.000 That's what we talked about.

02:16:06.000 What people got really mad at is they were saying he would cream anybody like any of Brock Lesnar.

02:16:09.000 And so I said, well, hold on.

02:16:10.000 He's two inches shorter and 25 pounds lighter than Nat K. Jared.

02:16:14.000 And so we had Nat K. Jared in the Bruce Lee pants.

02:16:16.000 And people were furious.

02:16:19.000 He's 25 pounds heavier than two inches taller.

02:16:21.000 That's an idea as to how small of a man this is.

02:16:24.000 It doesn't mean that he didn't write a good Tao, didn't write a good book.

02:16:28.000 The book's great, but it's also plagiarized.

02:16:30.000 He took passages in full, without any accreditation at all, and took, and I don't want to say in a bad way, because I think what he was trying to do was just like his whole style.

02:16:40.000 He just took big chunks of books on boxing and other different martial arts and took verbatim passages from that.

02:16:48.000 Maybe plagiarizing is not the right word, because what he did was like a collection of martial arts technique.

02:16:54.000 And so one of the things he did, see if you could find that.

02:16:57.000 He just forgot the hat tip.

02:16:57.000 Yeah, he just forgot the hat tip.

02:16:58.000 Well, I mean, he wasn't an author, you know?

02:17:01.000 No.

02:17:01.000 He was a martial artist, and he was collecting different, you know, writings on different styles.

02:17:08.000 Uh-huh.

02:17:09.000 See, Bruce Lee, the Tao of Jeet Kune Do plagiarized passages.

02:17:16.000 And again, I'm a giant Bruce Lee fan. 0.79

02:17:18.000 I'm not shitting on him. 0.87

02:17:19.000 But I think it's also very important. 0.96

02:17:21.000 I own the Tao of Jeet Kune Do. 0.85

02:17:23.000 I think it's very important that he did collect these important works on different martial arts.

02:17:28.000 And he was the first.

02:17:28.000 Dude, when I first started out doing martial arts, when I was doing Taekwondo, you had to just do Taekwondo.

02:17:33.000 When I branched out and started doing Muay Thai and started kickboxing, they were very against it.

02:17:38.000 A lot of the traditionalists were very against it, very against trying out other techniques.

02:17:43.000 They just didn't think it was necessary.

02:17:45.000 And I was like, that is crazy.

02:17:46.000 I've sparred with these guys. 0.99

02:17:47.000 Getting kicked in the legs is fucking awful. 0.99

02:17:49.000 I'm going to learn how to do this. 1.00

02:17:51.000 I'm not going to not learn this.

02:17:53.000 Somebody kicked my leg once.

02:17:55.000 I was like, oh, okay.

02:17:57.000 We got a new thing here.

02:17:59.000 I'm like, I've got to learn that.

02:18:00.000 Same thing with jujitsu.

02:18:01.000 As soon as I did jujitsu, I was like, I know how to fight. 1.00

02:18:03.000 I got fucking raped. 0.99

02:18:05.000 I mean, literally, like, ragdolled by some guy who was exactly the same size as me. 1.00

02:18:08.000 Like, oh, okay, now I gotta learn this, because there's no fucking way I can go through life thinking I know how to fight while this guy's out there.

02:18:15.000 That guy was a purple belt, too. 0.67

02:18:16.000 He wasn't even, like, you know, he wasn't bigger than me.

02:18:19.000 He was, like, close to my age.

02:18:21.000 He killed me. 0.95

02:18:22.000 And then even, I mean, you're a black belt. 0.99

02:18:24.000 You're accomplished.

02:18:24.000 And then you roll with someone.

02:18:25.000 Like, I rolled with, I'm fortunate enough to have rolled with some good guys, because I travel.

02:18:29.000 And you'll be like, oh, okay, here's a black belt. 1.00

02:18:31.000 This guy's kicking my ass. 1.00

02:18:31.000 And then I rolled with the worst I've ever had in my life. 1.00

02:18:35.000 Nice guy.

02:18:35.000 So please don't mistake this was Lucas Leche.

02:18:38.000 He was not flow.

02:18:40.000 Like I've rolled with Marcelo Garcia, we've had Bouchesha come in, Gabriel Vela, Cyborg, like all these different seminars.

02:18:45.000 Nice guys.

02:18:46.000 But Lucas Leche, I think, was just, like, if you're a bigger guy and you go and you roll with him, and he actually accidentally, he just, he did a collar pull with his key.

02:18:53.000 It was so hard, I put my hand out to post, and I popped my shoulder out of the socket.

02:18:57.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:18:58.000 In the first ten seconds.

02:18:59.000 And so then he gets my back, and I was, like, able, but you can see, and the tape, I don't know if I still have it, I'm doing this, trying to pop my shoulder back in.

02:19:06.000 And it was so fast, and I was like, oh, so that's what that's like.

02:19:11.000 Because...

02:19:11.000 Because Marcelo was so nice.

02:19:13.000 He was like, you can give more pressure, more pressure.

02:19:17.000 You never want to hurt the black belt.

02:19:18.000 Even though there's no chance.

02:19:20.000 I mean, you could hurt him, but you're not going to beat him.

02:19:21.000 But you don't want to go aggro on him.

02:19:23.000 Yeah, because these guys, people want to take their head off.

02:19:25.000 You know what I mean?

02:19:25.000 And so you don't want to be that.

02:19:26.000 But Leche was just super nice, but popped my shoulder on 12 seconds.

02:19:30.000 There's a lot of guys that are like that.

02:19:31.000 They roll hard, or they don't roll at all.

02:19:34.000 I don't even know if it was hard.

02:19:35.000 I think it was so swift from...

02:19:37.000 The timer went off, and it was the basic.

02:19:40.000 He was sitting, and he just grabbed the collar, and just boom, just like a, just pulled.

02:19:44.000 That's it.

02:19:44.000 And I guess you're kind of expecting, maybe he'll go to Oriondo, maybe he'll go to Lake Dragon, we'll...

02:19:48.000 No.

02:19:48.000 Boom!

02:19:49.000 Old school, collar yank, and I just posted, and felt it.

02:19:52.000 Did you find anything on Bruce Lee?

02:19:54.000 I started looking it up.

02:19:56.000 It's a bunch of, like, forum posts and whatnot.

02:19:57.000 I found one blog post that has, like, the annotated thing, and it sort of shows a quote from it, and then says where the quote was from.

02:20:04.000 Oh.

02:20:05.000 Okay.

02:20:06.000 Yeah, it's not, like, the best...

02:20:07.000 All right.

02:20:08.000 Well, I hope I'm not wrong, because this is what somebody who I know and respect very well told me, and then I remember reading it somewhere.

02:20:15.000 But again, it doesn't take anything away from how I feel about Bruce Lee.

02:20:19.000 I think he's very important in the history of martial arts, maybe one of the most important figures ever outside of Hoist Gracie and Elio Gracie.

02:20:26.000 It's one thing where the truth is enough, and you wonder why people feel like the truth isn't enough about Bruce.

02:20:30.000 Right, right.

02:20:31.000 Like, you don't need to embellish it.

02:20:32.000 Hero worship.

02:20:33.000 Yeah.

02:20:34.000 That being said, it was a slightly racist caricature of you as Bruce Lee.

02:20:37.000 In hindsight, I can see how people might take it wrong.

02:20:39.000 Did you put tape on your eyes?

02:20:40.000 No, we did do that once, though, because we did him doing the Mickey Rooney breakfast at Tiffany's.

02:20:44.000 And so people were like, this is so racist.

02:20:45.000 We're like, he's literally just doing Mickey Rooney breakfast at Tiffany's.

02:20:47.000 What do you think?

02:20:47.000 Mickey Rooney's a white guy.

02:20:49.000 What the fuck's wrong with you? 1.00

02:20:49.000 You never saw that, though? 1.00

02:20:50.000 Oh, I have seen it.

02:20:51.000 Oh, my God.

02:20:51.000 It's so racist.

02:20:52.000 It's hilarious, though.

02:20:53.000 Well, how about when they used to have the guy play Charlie Chan? 1.00

02:20:55.000 He was the whitest motherfucker that's ever lived. 1.00

02:20:57.000 He's playing like a six-foot-three white guy playing a Chinese detective. 1.00

02:21:02.000 They wouldn't let Chinese people act back then. 1.00

02:21:05.000 If you were in a major role, like the star of a movie, you had to be a white guy. 0.88

02:21:10.000 Have you seen the new Spider-Man, though?

02:21:12.000 Yeah.

02:21:12.000 No.

02:21:13.000 You kind of wonder if that's something we should...

02:21:15.000 I hate to...

02:21:16.000 You say, can you ask questions?

02:21:17.000 Can we address the elephant in the room?

02:21:19.000 What?

02:21:19.000 It's pretty clear that often Asians are not the best actors.

02:21:22.000 Oh, you son of a bitch! 1.00

02:21:24.000 Come on. 1.00

02:21:25.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

02:21:26.000 I don't care. 1.00

02:21:26.000 I'll stand by it. 1.00

02:21:27.000 Yeah, well, you never watched any of the Asia Carreras movies.

02:21:31.000 That's why back in the 90s, they just said, put Dean Cain in there, call it a day.

02:21:34.000 What about Lucy Tai?

02:21:36.000 She did some great work. 0.99

02:21:38.000 It's a porno star. 0.99

02:21:39.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

02:21:39.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

02:21:41.000 See, now I don't know who that's more embarrassing to. 1.00

02:21:44.000 Me or you?

02:21:45.000 Yeah, definitely you, because it doesn't bother me at all.

02:21:48.000 It's only embarrassing if it embarrasses you.

02:21:51.000 Have you ever had Dean Cain on the show, by the way?

02:21:52.000 No, no, I'd love to have him on that.

02:21:53.000 Oh my god.

02:21:54.000 Have you ever watched his Princeton highlight?

02:21:55.000 He set three, like, all-American records.

02:21:58.000 Really?

02:21:59.000 Yeah, in football.

02:21:59.000 He's only like 5'11".

02:22:01.000 A ton of Princeton records.

02:22:02.000 Yeah, a ton of Princeton records.

02:22:03.000 I met him once.

02:22:04.000 I met him once at something.

02:22:05.000 Super smart dude.

02:22:07.000 He did something with Joey Diaz.

02:22:08.000 He did a series.

02:22:09.000 He did those movies, like The Dog Who Saves Christmas.

02:22:11.000 Oh yeah, all the Hallmark movies and stuff. 1.00

02:22:13.000 My kids love those fucking movies. 1.00

02:22:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:22:15.000 Joey says he's a great guy.

02:22:16.000 Super nice guy.

02:22:17.000 Very smart.

02:22:18.000 Good looking to the point of being aggravating.

02:22:20.000 Uncomfortable, right? 1.00

02:22:20.000 Look at that fucking face. 1.00

02:22:21.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:22:22.000 Look at him.

02:22:23.000 Look at his Princeton highlight.

02:22:25.000 If you YouTube Dean Cain highlight when you play football.

02:22:28.000 He's got an advantage in some of these photos.

02:22:29.000 That is true.

02:22:32.000 He's probably the only guy that played Superman that didn't get something really wrong happened to him, right?

02:22:38.000 There was like a Superman curse.

02:22:40.000 George Reeves.

02:22:41.000 Yeah.

02:22:41.000 Christopher Reeves.

02:22:42.000 Maybe it was the Reeves.

02:22:43.000 What was the curse with Brandon Routh? 0.99

02:22:45.000 Just turned out to suck? 0.99

02:22:46.000 Yeah, he just turned out... 1.00

02:22:47.000 He stuck being Brandon Routh.

02:22:49.000 When did that happen?

02:22:50.000 That was the one with Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.

02:22:52.000 Remember that was the reboot?

02:22:53.000 No, I was gone by then.

02:22:54.000 I left the franchise.

02:22:56.000 Yeah.

02:22:56.000 I wasn't paying attention.

02:22:57.000 Was it Henry Cavill now?

02:22:59.000 It's like when you get to the third different Spider-Man.

02:23:01.000 I'm out!

02:23:02.000 Yeah, I'm kind of done with superhero films now for a while.

02:23:05.000 There's something really interesting.

02:23:06.000 I'll still go see anything with the Hulk.

02:23:09.000 Oh, really?

02:23:09.000 They haven't done one in a while.

02:23:10.000 It's been a long time. 0.99

02:23:11.000 I love when he fucking freaks out. 0.98

02:23:12.000 But now Mark Ruffalo, who's like super social justice warrior, is the Hulk. 0.98

02:23:15.000 I can't do it. 0.95

02:23:16.000 Usually I separate the art from the artist, but I'm like, that's just that Bernie prick.

02:23:19.000 I can't do this.

02:23:20.000 Well, he's also a conspiracy theorist, too, which is weird.

02:23:24.000 He's like a socialist, and he's like a conspiracy.

02:23:26.000 Well, Mark Ruffalo, I don't want to speak out of school, but I think he has a brain tumor. 1.00

02:23:31.000 Now I just feel like a jerk. 0.99

02:23:33.000 See if that's true. 0.98

02:23:34.000 I might be making things up today.

02:23:34.000 We just laughed at a man with a brain tumor.

02:23:36.000 All of us.

02:23:36.000 I think Mark Ruffalo has brain cancer.

02:23:38.000 We've all got a lot of growing up to do.

02:23:39.000 Mark, I'm sorry, I love you.

02:23:40.000 This is going as well as your interview with Matt Iseman.

02:23:42.000 I hope this isn't true.

02:23:44.000 This is an article.

02:23:45.000 He talks about his brother's murder and his brain tumor.

02:23:48.000 Oh, see?

02:23:48.000 There you go.

02:23:49.000 He's got a brain tumor. 1.00

02:23:49.000 You asshole. 1.00

02:23:50.000 No, not me. 1.00

02:23:50.000 I didn't know. 1.00

02:23:51.000 You knew when you started it. 1.00

02:23:52.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

02:23:56.000 Yeah, he's got a brain tumor. 1.00

02:23:58.000 So, maybe that's where the conspiracy theories are all coming from.

02:24:01.000 What conspiracy theories?

02:24:02.000 I don't know.

02:24:03.000 I remember him, he was somewhere, and it was like, you know, I couldn't tell you.

02:24:06.000 I wouldn't want to speak out of turn, but I remember being surprised because I knew he was far left, and it was kind of like big brother government.

02:24:11.000 I'm like, oh, that's weird for you to think big brother's watching but want a bigger big brother.

02:24:16.000 All right, right, right?

02:24:17.000 Yeah, that's the problem, right?

02:24:18.000 They think...

02:24:19.000 9-11 truther.

02:24:20.000 Oh, is it a truther?

02:24:22.000 Is that one of them?

02:24:23.000 Oh, Mark.

02:24:24.000 Marky Mark.

02:24:25.000 Yeah.

02:24:26.000 It's another one of those things.

02:24:28.000 It's like you look at it after the fact and you go, look at all these connections.

02:24:31.000 Like, okay, maybe.

02:24:33.000 Maybe just chaos and two guys flew planes or a bunch of guys flew planes into buildings.

02:24:38.000 Well, the problem is I think they're capitalizing what we were talking about, right?

02:24:42.000 Which is real.

02:24:43.000 No one wanted to cover the Antifa issue.

02:24:44.000 No one wants to talk about the puberty blockers to kids and this being considered hate speech.

02:24:49.000 It's true.

02:24:49.000 There is a media cover-up of a lot of information.

02:24:51.000 Certainly, I would say, instead of a cover-up, there is a monopoly on informational distribution, right?

02:24:56.000 That's real.

02:24:58.000 That's real.

02:24:58.000 And people, when you find that out, it kind of opens your eyes.

02:25:00.000 You're going, okay, what else don't I know?

02:25:02.000 So people take that and then try and capitalize on it with...

02:25:05.000 Lies. 0.99

02:25:06.000 Which is, you didn't know Jay-Z's in the Illuminati, 9-11's an inside job, and it just goes on because there's some truth to it.

02:25:14.000 But the problem is, you want to get people searching, but the truth has to be at the center.

02:25:18.000 The people who run your post office orchestrated the biggest terror attack on American soil.

02:25:21.000 Yes!

02:25:22.000 I think there's unquestionably, there was some...

02:25:25.000 Taking advantage of the events in order to pass policy that wasn't passable before.

02:25:31.000 The Patriot Act?

02:25:32.000 Yeah, of course.

02:25:32.000 The Patriot Act was drafted long before 9-11.

02:25:35.000 They pushed it through.

02:25:36.000 And then there's a lot that I think you could attribute to them taking advantage of this tragedy.

02:25:43.000 But the idea that they orchestrated it, man, that's just...

02:25:46.000 It doesn't...

02:25:48.000 It doesn't jive.

02:25:49.000 The burden of proof is on them, too, to say that.

02:25:51.000 In my opinion.

02:25:51.000 They think they did.

02:25:52.000 You see loose change?

02:25:53.000 You know, there's a lot of people that believe...

02:25:56.000 What I find crazy about that is that, you know, this crazy corrupt government, the 9-11 Commission report, okay, George Bush, like a Mark Ruffalo.

02:26:03.000 But then you look at the drone strikes with Barack, it's like, all of a sudden, where's code?

02:26:06.000 All this goes away.

02:26:07.000 There's one that's consistent.

02:26:09.000 Now, I don't hate George Bush.

02:26:10.000 I know I'm probably in the minority here.

02:26:11.000 I don't think he was a great president.

02:26:12.000 I don't think he's as bad as a lot of people.

02:26:14.000 You know, Green Day thinks he was.

02:26:15.000 I don't think he was a great president.

02:26:16.000 But the point is, I don't want George Bush to have unfettered power, nor Barack Obama, nor Donald Trump.

02:26:23.000 It's not selective.

02:26:24.000 I don't trust any of them.

02:26:26.000 Mike Baker who used to be in the CIA told me that those drone strikes are those are designed or rather Dictated by lawyers like when what what gets passed and what gets passed through?

02:26:37.000 It's lawyers lawyers make the final decision.

02:26:39.000 Yeah, I was like really he's like yeah lawyers They decide like hey, you know what how many people are in this building that are friendlies? 0.99

02:26:46.000 So the Jews and Asians decide who's going to be dying over there wait what what son of a bitch First it was Bruce Lee now. 1.00

02:26:53.000 It's the Asians and the Jews together Well, you know, they do cooperate. 1.00

02:26:58.000 Boys, I gotta end this.

02:27:00.000 It's a little bit past 12. I gotta get out of here.

02:27:03.000 Or a little bit past 4, rather.

02:27:04.000 I gotta get out of here.

02:27:05.000 But, um...

02:27:07.000 Thank you so much, man.

02:27:08.000 Thank you.

02:27:08.000 And listen, thanks for these videos you guys do.

02:27:11.000 They're funny, they're informative, and I think, especially that transgender one, that really freaked me out. 1.00

02:27:17.000 I think a lot of stuff you guys do is very important.

02:27:20.000 Glad we could help.

02:27:20.000 And a lot of it is just ridiculous, but keep that up, too.

02:27:23.000 Well, that's what we do!

02:27:25.000 Thanks, Jeff.

02:27:26.000 Alright, NotGayJarred on Twitter, and of course, you're S. Crowder on Twitter, right?

02:27:32.000 Bye, everybody!

02:27:33.000 Thanks.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 30, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1071 - Steven Crowder & NotGay Jared

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