The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1152 - John Joseph

00:00:00.000 Must be from New York.

00:00:01.000 Yeah, well, you can definitely tell that.

00:00:04.000 Four, three, two...

00:00:07.000 And we're live, John Joseph.

00:00:08.000 What's up, brother?

00:00:09.000 How are you, man?

00:00:10.000 Yo, this is like...

00:00:11.000 I'm excited.

00:00:12.000 Yeah, man.

00:00:12.000 And I'm excited, too, for...

00:00:14.000 I think it could set a nice precedent because there's so much fucking toxic energy between vegans and non-vegans. 0.96

00:00:21.000 Even if we're just joking around, people get so fucking angry, and it's not necessary. 0.96

00:00:27.000 Absolutely. 0.94

00:00:28.000 I mean, where's the humor?

00:00:30.000 Where's the comedy?

00:00:31.000 I mean, the other thing is, I don't sit around calling. 0.99

00:00:34.000 I'm not defined by what the fuck I eat. 0.99

00:00:37.000 Like this dude said, how come you don't call yourself a vegan? 0.99

00:00:40.000 I'm like, because I do a lot more shit than just eat plant-based food. 0.97

00:00:44.000 It's part of what I do. 0.99

00:00:46.000 But don't you call yourself a vegan?

00:00:47.000 I mean, you are a vegan, right?

00:00:48.000 I practice that lifestyle for sure, but I don't call myself a vegan.

00:00:55.000 That's interesting.

00:00:55.000 I would say, people say, you know, I don't like to put any type of material label on myself.

00:01:05.000 And if somebody says to me and pushes the issue, I'm like, I'm more of a Hare Krishna, Bhakta Yoga person than I am a vegan.

00:01:15.000 You know, even though I don't wear animal products, I don't use animal products, I eat a plant-based diet 100%.

00:01:21.000 But to call myself that just puts me in some, you know, some shelf. 0.98

00:01:29.000 Oh, it's just another vegan or whatever the fuck, you know? 0.97

00:01:33.000 Well, you know, it seems to me that people are always searching for an identity. 0.99

00:01:37.000 And if they have an identity that, you know, I'm a carnivore, I'm on the carnivore diet, which is all the latest trend.

00:01:43.000 And then people get really hopped up on that.

00:01:46.000 And that's all they want to do is talk carnivore diet. 0.94

00:01:48.000 The difference between what's happening right now with this carnivore diet and vegans seems very similar to me in that they're very into the identity of their food.

00:01:57.000 Right.

00:01:57.000 Not their food choices, but certainly into the fact that this is how they identify.

00:02:01.000 They talk about it all the time.

00:02:03.000 And I just think there's pitfalls in that.

00:02:06.000 There's like traps that people fall into where they lock their identity into a group.

00:02:10.000 Absolutely.

00:02:11.000 And this is what happens with vegans.

00:02:12.000 It happens to hunters.

00:02:13.000 It happens with Republicans.

00:02:16.000 It happens with Democrats.

00:02:16.000 It just becomes a group thing.

00:02:18.000 And then you automatically oppose people in the other group and you have conflict with them.

00:02:25.000 You have hate with them.

00:02:26.000 Do we need more walls?

00:02:28.000 We don't need more walls.

00:02:51.000 So, getting locked up, hitting the streets, and then meeting the Bad Brains in 1980 and seeing them and who they were surrounded by.

00:03:00.000 It was a lot of, you know, people who were into very metaphysical stuff, so I got into the yoga.

00:03:08.000 And I know you've been doing yoga now too. 0.76

00:03:10.000 So one of the first tenets of the yoga practice, which slams all this label shit, is Aham Brahmasmi. 0.73

00:03:18.000 That I'm actually... 0.81

00:03:19.000 My identity is a spirit soul.

00:03:22.000 Beyond anything in the material world, any label you want to put on yourself.

00:03:26.000 So that's really...

00:03:28.000 Where I come from with the whole thing. 0.98

00:03:29.000 And I think the toxicity level that is existing now just because of what people fucking choose to eat.

00:03:37.000 I mean, I have my issues with certain things that are being done because of the condition of the planet. 0.86

00:03:45.000 We're not being good custodians of this planet that we're in charge.

00:03:50.000 For kids and future generations, what's being done now, there's industries that are destroying the planet.

00:03:57.000 Like, you know, some of it is irreparable damage being done.

00:04:02.000 But I really try to keep it metaphysical with everything I do and who I help.

00:04:08.000 I mean, I'm working on a documentary right now.

00:04:10.000 I hear 30 to life with hardcore... 1.00

00:04:13.000 Fucking ex-cons that just did 20, 25 years, 30 years. 1.00

00:04:18.000 If I go in there trying to preach some vegan shit to them, I'm coming at them like a fucking, like, yo, dude, this is where I've been. 1.00

00:04:26.000 I've been where you are. 1.00

00:04:27.000 People help me, and I'm here to help you.

00:04:29.000 We didn't start out You know, we don't even say, you know, we say, you know, we're going to put you on a plant-based diet.

00:04:37.000 What are you going to do? 0.99

00:04:38.000 Tell them, don't wear leather fucking shoes? 1.00

00:04:41.000 Don't do this, don't do... 0.99

00:04:42.000 You know, and the whole thing, even when Jay-Z and Beyonce, it's never enough.

00:04:47.000 They went and...

00:04:49.000 They said vegan.

00:04:52.000 We're practicing a vegan diet.

00:04:53.000 We're doing a 30-day vegan diet.

00:04:55.000 So what do the vegans do? 0.99

00:04:56.000 Attack them. 1.00

00:04:57.000 Oh, but they're wearing fucking leather. 1.00

00:05:00.000 You have to be able to fan the spark. 0.99

00:05:03.000 So if you see some goodness in someone...

00:05:05.000 You have to be able to fan that spark, not throw water on it.

00:05:09.000 And that's the problem that's being done is people are so judgmental because they've built this walls, the walls between them, that it's just fall finding.

00:05:20.000 And I was telling the guys I trained them this morning, we're doing this 30 to life with Kip Anderson and...

00:05:26.000 We're at the Amity Foundation where these guys got paroled and I said, look, there's two types of mentality in the world. 0.99

00:05:32.000 There's the B mentality that's looking for the sweet and the good in people and then there's the flies and they're looking for the shit. 1.00

00:05:39.000 I said, when you see shit on a sidewalk and a dog takes a shit or in New York a human takes a shit within a matter of fucking 20 seconds there's flies on that motherfucker. 1.00

00:05:53.000 So I try to roll with the PMA Which I learned from Bad Brains, Positive Mental Attitude, which Napoleon Hill, HR copped it from Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich and all those books on self-help. 1.00

00:06:07.000 And it was like he told me no matter what circumstances you may be in, and I was in the Navy at the time in Norfolk, Fucking smuggling, fucking up, catching cases, took Navy over going back to jail, and I was fucking up. 0.98

00:06:21.000 I didn't know what to do. 0.99

00:06:23.000 Fucked out of my mind, hanging out with Henry Rollins and Ian McKay and all those guys in the D.C. hardcore scene and New York punk scene.

00:06:32.000 You know, hanging with John Belushi on Fear that night. 0.99

00:06:35.000 We were the ones that wrecked the set of Saturday Night Live and just, you know, just doing crazy shit.

00:06:40.000 And he just told me, you know, whatever you may be going through in life, if you keep a positive mental attitude, you could get through anything. 0.97

00:06:48.000 So how am I going to criticize people just because you eat meat or do whatever?

00:06:54.000 It's like... 0.98

00:06:55.000 You know, and some of these people are hardcore Christians, and it's like you're supposed to say, hey, what, you know, hate the sin, not the sinner, or whatever the fuck that whole philosophy deals with. 0.65

00:07:05.000 I mean, my point is, I'm trying to knock down the walls between people and unified people, so.

00:07:11.000 I think what you do good is you're a very positive role model in terms of hard work, in terms of your mental fortitude and how you approach things.

00:07:21.000 And I think people need that.

00:07:23.000 And I think one of the things that's going on right now with social media and one of the reasons why people will attack Jay-Z for wearing leather shoes, even though they're looking to stand out.

00:07:32.000 They're looking to be virtuous.

00:07:33.000 They're looking to be the person that's more virtuous than the person we're pointing a finger at. 1.00

00:07:37.000 Man, fuck them. 1.00

00:07:38.000 And there's always a lot of, fuck people who aren't this, or fuck people who aren't that. 1.00

00:07:42.000 You should never say, fuck people, because people are just like you. 1.00

00:07:46.000 They're human beings, and everybody's on a different path. 1.00

00:07:48.000 Tell me why you believe the way you believe.

00:07:51.000 Tell me why you think the way you think.

00:07:53.000 And I'll tell you why I think the way I think, and I bet we'll find common ground.

00:07:56.000 And that's what human beings need to do more with each other.

00:07:58.000 The problem with social media is it gives them this unusual platform to get people to pay attention to their ideas.

00:08:04.000 Maybe their ideas aren't even that good.

00:08:06.000 Or maybe their ideas are very obvious.

00:08:08.000 You know, like you're gonna point at someone, hey man, you know, you shouldn't say this word, hey man, you shouldn't do this thing, because we've decided that that's a bad thing, we've decided that that's culturally unacceptable anymore, and now everyone's gonna attack for that very reason.

00:08:21.000 Instead of describing how they feel, what makes them feel when they say something, what makes them feel when they do things, what's going on in their head, so we can all relate on common ground, people just want to attack.

00:08:33.000 And it's a big problem with what's going on.

00:08:36.000 Social media is way too young.

00:08:38.000 It's a new thing. 0.99

00:08:39.000 And people are using it in these really fucked up ways. 0.96

00:08:41.000 They don't exactly know what they're doing while they're doing it. 0.96

00:08:43.000 They're not even aware of the effect of their printed word, what it's going to have.

00:08:47.000 That's why you have so many trolls and so many mean people and so many people just trying to get a rise out of someone.

00:08:52.000 They're not even aware of this process they're setting in motion.

00:08:55.000 They just know they could push a button and watch something happen.

00:08:58.000 They're just going, whoo, whoo.

00:09:00.000 I mean, this is a lot of what's going on today. 0.98

00:09:02.000 I mean, and some of this stuff is destroying people's lives, what they're fucking doing. 0.96

00:09:07.000 They don't realize that. 0.85

00:09:10.000 You know, it's a shame because, like, when I was growing up, we didn't have social media. 0.98

00:09:16.000 There was no motherfucking internet. 0.97

00:09:18.000 There was no none of... 0.99

00:09:19.000 You know, I remember I had the first pager... 0.99

00:09:21.000 It was fucking, you know, gigantic. 0.94

00:09:24.000 So, like, we didn't even have no internet. 0.99

00:09:27.000 Everything was, you know, word of mouth.

00:09:29.000 And if you wanted to catch shows, if you wanted to do this. 1.00

00:09:31.000 If you had a beef with somebody, you didn't go on fucking social media and talk a bunch of bullshit. 1.00

00:09:37.000 You fucking walked up to the person and you said, hey, here I am. 1.00

00:09:41.000 And what the fuck? 1.00

00:09:43.000 Let's deal with this. 1.00

00:09:44.000 Let's talk about it.

00:09:45.000 Talk it out.

00:09:46.000 But now you got people buying followers and doing other...

00:09:49.000 It's just... 0.99

00:09:51.000 You know, it's just the most toxic environment in a lot of ways, and it's a shame because it could be used, and that's why I never post negative shit. 1.00

00:10:01.000 I try to use the platform, you know, make lighter shit, not have a stick up your ass. 0.99

00:10:06.000 There's too many people that do even the plant-based vegan thing, and everything's so fucking serious. 0.99

00:10:13.000 I'm like, you might reach more people if you lightened up, you know, like Stripes.

00:10:17.000 Lighten up, Francis. 1.00

00:10:18.000 You know, fucking... 1.00

00:10:19.000 If you say... 1.00

00:10:21.000 You eat meat, I'll kill you. 1.00

00:10:24.000 Well, you did write a book called Meat Is For Pussies. 1.00

00:10:26.000 Well, I'll tell you how that came about. 0.99

00:10:28.000 And actually, I got attacked.

00:10:29.000 I'm going to tell you something else.

00:10:31.000 You want to talk about destroying people. 0.99

00:10:32.000 I got attacked more by the vegan feminists for that book fucking tried to destroy me. 1.00

00:10:38.000 Because you wrote pussies? 1.00

00:10:39.000 They wrote everybody because I wrote pussies. 1.00

00:10:40.000 Now, first of all, and then she went on a blog and called me a misogynistic. 1.00

00:10:45.000 I said, yeah, I like misogynistic. 1.00

00:10:48.000 You know, call me a misogynistic scumbag and a fucking piece of shit and all this. 1.00

00:10:52.000 So I just had, I just wrote, hey, any of you ladies that bought this book for their fellas and it helped them, please fucking holler at this fucking woman and tell us something. 1.00

00:11:01.000 They shut her fucking blog down. 1.00

00:11:03.000 And then she called me a maniac. 1.00

00:11:05.000 She called you a maniac because you sent people on her the way she sent people on you. 1.00

00:11:09.000 But dig this, and then I said, we have a saying on the streets in New York back in the day, don't start none and there won't be none.

00:11:16.000 But the thing was, I'm going to tell you how that book title came about because it was a woman, actually Karen Rinaldi from HarperCollins.

00:11:24.000 Wave.

00:11:25.000 And what happened was I was training at Crunch.

00:11:28.000 Aaron Dragozanuski is my trainer. 0.91

00:11:32.000 And he's got me through all my fucking Ironmans and everything. 0.99

00:11:35.000 I was a fucking broken up person, injuries, all this shit. 0.99

00:11:38.000 So I was working at Crunch and training with him. 0.99

00:11:41.000 And then another person, a friend of mine, all the Five Points guys used to be there.

00:11:46.000 You would see them all.

00:11:47.000 They had a ring on the second floor.

00:11:48.000 So this guy was doing pad work and I'm telling him, hey, you know, listen, man, you got a fight coming up, man.

00:11:54.000 Get on the chlorophyll, get on the wheatgrass, get on, you know, eat as much recovery foods as you can that's going to fight inflammation. 1.00

00:12:01.000 So some fucking mama Luke with fucking 1980s tiger stripe pants fucking... 1.00

00:12:07.000 Yeah, fucking, you know, he just took everything out of context and then he's like, yeah, fucking people that don't eat meat are fucking pussies. 1.00

00:12:17.000 And I'm like, yo, you got like 50 pounds on me, but if you want to put some head gear and get in the ring, I'll oblige you. 1.00

00:12:24.000 He's like, what?

00:12:25.000 I said, I don't eat meat, bro. 0.97

00:12:27.000 And then the funny shit with the whole book title was it was going to be called The Grow Green Road to Health, Fitness, and Longevity. 0.99

00:12:36.000 And my business partner, Todd Erwin, goes, Motherfucker, who are you, Dr. Oz? 0.99

00:12:41.000 Nobody wants to hear that book from you. 0.99

00:12:43.000 You're John Bloodclot Joseph Singer from the Cro-Mags. 1.00

00:12:47.000 They want...

00:12:48.000 And then I said, yeah... 1.00

00:12:51.000 I said, yeah, this motherfucker was like, you know, saying fucking people that don't eat me, the pussies. 1.00

00:12:56.000 I'm like, motherfucker, that dude probably ain't seen his dick in fucking 10 years. 1.00

00:13:00.000 He was overweight and all this shit. 1.00

00:13:01.000 I said, that motherfucker's the pussy. 1.00

00:13:03.000 And he's like, yo, you know what? 1.00

00:13:05.000 Throw it back in their face.

00:13:06.000 And I was like, I don't know, man.

00:13:08.000 That's... 0.98

00:13:09.000 You know, that's a pretty fucking bold statement. 0.99

00:13:11.000 He said, do it, do it. 0.96

00:13:12.000 So we released it. 1.00

00:13:14.000 So right away, the fucking emails and the toxicity of the vegans. 0.99

00:13:18.000 That's hilarious that it started that way. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Yo, that's how it started.

00:13:20.000 And then our agent, Dan, we got hooked up with this guy, Dan, from ICM. He's like...

00:13:30.000 Met my business partner in the Hamptons. 1.00

00:13:32.000 He's like, yo, that book is fucking dope, man. 0.99

00:13:34.000 I think we could get a deal. 0.99

00:13:35.000 Within a week, he had four offers.

00:13:37.000 So you wrote it first?

00:13:39.000 Yeah, I wrote it first, and we put it out.

00:13:40.000 What was the thought process behind writing it? 0.98

00:13:42.000 You just had a lot of shit in your head, you just wanted to get out? 0.98

00:13:45.000 Yeah, well, I studied writing under Robert McKee, so I wrote my memoir first. 1.00

00:13:49.000 Interesting.

00:13:50.000 Yeah, story.

00:13:51.000 That guy's like my guru for writing.

00:13:53.000 I took the story seminar twice. 0.99

00:13:55.000 He's fucking amazing. 0.96

00:13:57.000 I mean, Brian Cox's portrayal of him in adaptation. 0.99

00:14:02.000 Fucking brilliant. 0.94

00:14:03.000 Spot on. 0.98

00:14:05.000 I actually became friends with Mr. McKee.

00:14:09.000 He smoked like crazy.

00:14:11.000 Really? 1.00

00:14:11.000 Yeah, he smoked cigarettes like a fucking chimney. 1.00

00:14:13.000 A lot of writers do, man. 1.00

00:14:14.000 Yeah, but not during the class. 0.98

00:14:16.000 So when he had the breaks, he would fucking do like two, three cigarettes. 0.89

00:14:19.000 I said, you know, my friend has an organic green tea extract company. 1.00

00:14:24.000 And the polyphenols in that is going to counteract all your fucking smoking shit that you're doing. 1.00

00:14:39.000 Did he quit smoking? 1.00

00:14:41.000 I don't know.

00:14:41.000 I haven't seen him in a while.

00:14:42.000 The problem is it gives them a charge.

00:14:43.000 It gives them a nootropic charge.

00:14:46.000 It fires up your brain.

00:14:48.000 You ever smoke a cigarette?

00:14:49.000 Man, I smoke like crazy. 0.99

00:14:50.000 I used to smoke Cools in lockup and shit. 0.99

00:14:53.000 Like, you know, because that's what they give you in Spofford. 0.99

00:14:56.000 And when I went upstate, it was Cools.

00:14:59.000 When did you quit?

00:15:00.000 I quit because I started boxing in lockup. 0.99

00:15:03.000 And they would have us run this fucking hill called Suicide Hill. 1.00

00:15:07.000 And I would be fucking puking. 1.00

00:15:08.000 And I was like, I gotta quit fucking smoking. 1.00

00:15:11.000 So I quit smoking. 1.00

00:15:12.000 They used to do smoker fights in the lockup.

00:15:15.000 So if you had a beef with somebody, you went into this...

00:15:19.000 Explain smokers to people.

00:15:20.000 They don't know what that means.

00:15:36.000 Much bigger people fighting much smaller people.

00:15:39.000 And some of them guys, I mean, I was not good. 0.99

00:15:43.000 I would fight the black dudes and they would just beat the shit out of me. 1.00

00:15:47.000 But I would just keep coming back. 1.00

00:15:48.000 You know, I'm Irish.

00:15:50.000 I don't quit, man.

00:15:51.000 And then, you know, I learned more of the sweet science.

00:15:57.000 So you quit smoking just for boxing?

00:16:00.000 Yeah, I quit smoking for that reason.

00:16:03.000 But when I was locked up, I didn't quit almost to the end because toward the end of your sentence, they allow you to go home because they want to reintegrate you back with your family or whatever.

00:16:15.000 And I never grew up with my mom, so they would send us home.

00:16:17.000 So we would take the carton of cigarettes.

00:16:20.000 And open it up very carefully, open up the cellophane carefully, slide the cellophane down and put joints inside the cigarette pack, slide it back up, glue it, close the carton of cigarettes, and that's how we would get the weed back from the visits. 0.99

00:16:34.000 Because I wasn't smoking weed coming back out of nobody's ass. 0.99

00:16:37.000 That was not happening. 0.99

00:16:38.000 I'm like, no thank you.

00:16:40.000 So that was the process.

00:16:44.000 And, you know, so that's why I quit. 0.99

00:16:47.000 But that's, the book came, I had a lot of shit, a lot of demons inside of me from what happened to me. 0.99

00:16:55.000 Me and my two brothers were, you know, pretty severely abused in all kinds of ways in this foster home, physically, mentally, sexually abused by the older people. 0.99

00:17:05.000 Kids in the home it was fucked up and I never told anybody but that was always something no matter how much I lived as a monk for two years a Hare Krishna monk nothing cured that fucking anger that was inside of me that I had toward these people for what they did to me and the secret of like yo it's fucked up to say like yo you're this dude from the streets You had knife fights with Puerto Ricans. 0.98

00:17:30.000 I got shot with a.22 in Forest Park selling angel dust. 0.99

00:17:34.000 I got stabbed. 1.00

00:17:35.000 And then to try to say, yo, this motherfucker molesting me is... 1.00

00:17:38.000 It took a lot out of me to... 1.00

00:17:41.000 And nobody knew it because I never talked about it.

00:17:44.000 And I took McKee's class and that was the turning point because I went up to him and I was writing a script at the time based on what happened to me in the foster home.

00:17:52.000 The kids...

00:17:53.000 In the screenplay, we based what happened to me in my younger period of my life.

00:18:01.000 And I never told anybody what happened.

00:18:04.000 I would just avoid that.

00:18:06.000 But then when I started writing the book and I was taking his class...

00:18:10.000 And between, you know, parts of his thing, when you went on the break, you could walk up to Robert McKee and say, ask him questions.

00:18:19.000 So I said, Mr. McKee, as far as a protagonist who was abused as a kid, and he stopped me right there.

00:18:26.000 And he said, listen, stop right there.

00:18:28.000 He said, McGowan.

00:18:29.000 Everybody uses it. 0.98

00:18:31.000 It's a cliche, you know, abusive children, to develop empathy for characters we could otherwise not give a fuck about. 0.94

00:18:39.000 It's not what happens to somebody, it's what they do as a result of it. 0.99

00:18:43.000 And that's the fucking light came on. 0.98

00:18:45.000 And I mean, for years I would sit there, and it took me seven years to write the evolution of a Cro-Magnon. 0.99

00:18:51.000 And I would get to that part of the story... 0.98

00:18:54.000 And I would lose my shit and break down crying like fucking uncontrollably because of what happened to me and my brothers. 0.89

00:19:02.000 So I just skipped over that part and I would never address it, but then He gave me the strength in a lot of ways to be able to say, hey man, he wrote in my book, so I have his book, and he wrote to me, 0.99

00:19:17.000 he goes, John, always write the truth.

00:19:21.000 And that's when I knew that that needed to come out in the book to cleanse myself.

00:19:26.000 I've been two years on crack, 88 to 90 crack pills. 0.98

00:19:34.000 You know, doing whatever, getting shot at with fucking AR-15s, robbing deals. 0.99

00:19:40.000 I had TOS, or it was KOS at the time, kill on sight. 1.00

00:19:44.000 I was a fucking maniac. 1.00

00:19:46.000 Because I just didn't care. 1.00

00:19:48.000 I actually kind of wish subconsciously that somebody would put a fucking bullet at me when you're doing crack. 0.99

00:19:55.000 A lot of people get molested. 1.00

00:19:56.000 Yeah.

00:19:56.000 They almost act out to the point where they want someone else to do it for them because they don't want to leave.

00:20:01.000 Yeah, I was definitely in a lot of ways.

00:20:03.000 That's that's what I was doing. 0.98

00:20:05.000 But when I took his when that seminar helped me so much Because it's really like, he's really like a fucking guru and a teacher, man. 0.98

00:20:15.000 The man is amazing. 0.66

00:20:16.000 If you ever get a chance to take the Robert McKee story seminar, it's a three-day seminar.

00:20:21.000 I took it twice, then he does workshops.

00:20:23.000 But the story seminar, I just walked out of there after the third day. 0.99

00:20:27.000 It's 10 hours a day and you're just like, you're fucking, you're like speechless. 0.99

00:20:31.000 Like, what the fuck did I just experience? 1.00

00:20:33.000 It's incredible. 0.98

00:20:34.000 And that gave me the power to go and tell my story the right way. 0.99

00:20:40.000 And the amount of emails of people that I received that were like, yo, that shit was done to me. 0.97

00:20:46.000 Thank you for having the courage to tell the story. 0.99

00:20:50.000 And, you know, I just kept writing after that. 0.98

00:20:53.000 So even the meat is for pussies podcast. 0.99

00:20:57.000 If you read it, it's tongue in cheek. 0.99

00:20:59.000 There's a lot of dudes that eat meat that could kick the shit out of me. 0.99

00:21:03.000 What I'm saying is if you continue to lead a sanitary lifestyle and you eat this fucked up food that's out there, that they're putting out there, that they're knowingly putting out there to fucking poison you because they're tied in with the pharmaceutical companies, it's a racket. 0.99

00:21:17.000 It's not a conspiracy. 0.99

00:21:18.000 It's been proven that this is what they're doing. 1.00

00:21:21.000 You will become a pussy dependent on the pharmaceutical companies to keep you alive. 1.00

00:21:25.000 If that's what you want, then this book is not for you. 1.00

00:21:28.000 Put it back.

00:21:29.000 So you got into Hare Krishna's and you got into this whole consciousness trip from the bad brains, which is crazy. 0.96

00:21:36.000 Think about that.

00:21:37.000 People would assume you think of the hardcore scene, you're thinking of drugs and violence and tattoos and chaos.

00:21:44.000 Nah, man.

00:21:46.000 Tell me about that.

00:21:48.000 How did you get into Hare Krishna's?

00:21:49.000 I'm going to tell you.

00:21:51.000 Initially, my first interaction with Rastafarians, it was 1980. My ship was going to Jamaica.

00:22:00.000 So when you go to any port and they take you down on the mess deck and they show everyone, you go here, you go there, they show you these films.

00:22:11.000 So when we were getting ready to go to Jamaica, they're like, if you're going to use, and it's these military films from the 60s, if you're going to use... 0.99

00:22:19.000 Have sex with a prostitute. 0.99

00:22:21.000 Make sure you use a prophylactic. 1.00

00:22:23.000 And then the next photo was a fucking Rastafarian with smoke coming out of every fucking orifice. 1.00

00:22:30.000 And they're like, and under no circumstances should you talk to these people. 1.00

00:22:35.000 They're just going to try to sell you drugs. 1.00

00:22:38.000 So who the fuck do you think was the first people when I got off the ship? 0.98

00:22:42.000 Because I didn't hang out with any of the dudes on my ship. 0.99

00:22:45.000 I got the fuck away from it. 0.85

00:22:46.000 I was the only punk rocker. 1.00

00:22:48.000 I was wearing Sex Pistols Destroy fucking t-shirts. 0.98

00:22:51.000 They're looking at me like I was already into punk rock since the 70s. 0.99

00:22:56.000 So I get off the ship and I meet this like 20-something year old fucking dread dude. 0.97

00:23:01.000 And he's like, yeah, man, what you need? 0.98

00:23:03.000 I said, listen, you know, I'm fucking smuggling some weed back. 0.97

00:23:06.000 I want to get take because this other sailor told me, yo, you go in there and you get them to take you to the carving shops and they carve out the fucking statue and they pack the lamb's bread in there and then seal up the statue. 0.96

00:23:21.000 And then I had a hookup with the officer, the guy who did the watch, and counted, so say, every fifth person you got searched. 0.99

00:23:29.000 So I was always avoiding that because I would hit the dude off with some weed or whatever the fuck it was. 0.96

00:23:35.000 So when I went to Jamaica... 0.92

00:23:38.000 I asked this kid, as soon as I got off the boat, like there was no hotels in Montego Bay, nothing. 0.97

00:23:44.000 It was just you took the ship, the ship anchored out in the bay, and you took a boat in and landed at the dock, and it was just like some fucking ancient... 0.98

00:23:54.000 Like, crazy shit that you would see back in the 1800s. 0.99

00:23:57.000 Sailorport. 0.99

00:23:58.000 Yeah, Sailorport. 1.00

00:23:59.000 And then this dude was eating his carton of fucking shit. 0.99

00:24:02.000 I'm like, yo, I'm like French fries and burgers at the time. 1.00

00:24:06.000 And I'm like, yo, what the fuck are you eating? 1.00

00:24:07.000 What is that shit? 1.00

00:24:08.000 He's like, yeah, man, it's Kalaloo and Aki. 1.00

00:24:11.000 And he's like, man, you eat this, you live to be 150 taras.

00:24:15.000 I was like, really? 1.00

00:24:16.000 I said, let me check that shit out. 1.00

00:24:18.000 Took one forkful and I just was like, this is fucking disgusting. 1.00

00:24:22.000 That shit tastes like dirt, dude. 1.00

00:24:24.000 What was it? 1.00

00:24:25.000 It was collaloo.

00:24:26.000 What is collaloo?

00:24:27.000 Collaloo is a green.

00:24:28.000 It's like one of the most nutritious...

00:24:30.000 Like a collard green?

00:24:31.000 Yeah, it's like collard green.

00:24:33.000 It's like...

00:24:33.000 They have greens down there that don't really...

00:24:37.000 Grow anywhere else.

00:24:38.000 So I think it's like a combination of kale and collard greens.

00:24:42.000 And then ackee is like this fruit.

00:24:44.000 And it looks like it's yellow.

00:24:46.000 It looks like an egg almost.

00:24:48.000 But if you eat ackee when it's not ripe, you'll die.

00:24:51.000 You get poison.

00:24:52.000 It's this type of thing.

00:24:53.000 Like when the fruit opens up, it's like a red fruit.

00:24:57.000 If you eat it when it's not open, you will die.

00:25:00.000 Really? 0.51

00:25:00.000 Yeah, ackee will poison you. 0.51

00:25:02.000 And then he was eating seaweed and beans and...

00:25:06.000 Anyway, so I went up into the hills.

00:25:09.000 He took me.

00:25:09.000 Now, I don't know if you like reggae, but...

00:25:12.000 I do. 0.97

00:25:12.000 I fucking love reggae. 0.97

00:25:13.000 So do you know where Peter Tosh wanted Dreader Alive? 0.99

00:25:18.000 Do you know where that came from?

00:25:19.000 No.

00:25:19.000 Okay, I'm gonna tell you.

00:25:22.000 So, back in, I think it was 78, this cop, they hate the Rastafarians in Jamaica, by the way, because it's a big Christian. 0.99

00:25:31.000 The Christians invaded that place and just fucking turned everybody into dogmatic fucking thinking people. 1.00

00:25:41.000 What the white man does everywhere across the planet. 1.00

00:25:44.000 You gotta be my religion, fuck everybody else, this is what's up. 1.00

00:25:47.000 So they did that there. 1.00

00:25:52.000 What the rosters call the Jamaicans who don't grow knots. 0.70

00:25:55.000 They call them ball heads, man. 0.98

00:25:57.000 Like Bob Marley, crazy ball head.

00:25:59.000 So what they did with these guys... 0.98

00:26:02.000 A cop tried to kill a Rastafarian and the Rastafarian killed a cop. 1.00

00:26:07.000 So they put a bounty on every single Rastafarian wanted dead or alive. 1.00

00:26:12.000 You could kill a Rasta and drag him to the precinct and collect a reward. 1.00

00:26:17.000 So all the Rastas fled up into the hills. 1.00

00:26:20.000 And it was called the Green Bay Killings. 0.57

00:26:22.000 They just started killing all these Rastafarians. 1.00

00:26:25.000 And so this guy brought me up into the hills and I met these Rastas and the Nyabingi, the drummers and all that shit. 1.00

00:26:32.000 And the guy had the actual...

00:26:33.000 Because it was only like two, maybe three years prior to me going there in 1980. And I got to meet these cats that survived that shit. 0.99

00:26:41.000 And they had the news clippings and all this shit. 0.99

00:26:44.000 So that was like my first experience with the whole roster thing. 0.98

00:26:47.000 And then I met the Bad Brains one night.

00:26:50.000 At first, Ian McKay and all them cats came down with Teen Isles and Untouchables.

00:26:55.000 That was Henry's whole crew first.

00:26:57.000 I know Henry's been on here.

00:26:58.000 I'm pretty good friends with Henry.

00:27:00.000 He's coming out next week.

00:27:01.000 Tell him I said, what's up? 0.98

00:27:02.000 I fucking love him, man. 0.99

00:27:04.000 I do too. 0.99

00:27:04.000 He's a fucking great human being. 0.99

00:27:06.000 He's a beast. 1.00

00:27:07.000 Yeah.

00:27:08.000 When I split the Navy, he let me stay at his house and I was eating his food. 0.98

00:27:12.000 And then after a week of him going to work and coming home and his food's gone, he's like, all right, John, you got to get the fuck out. 0.99

00:27:17.000 Go somewhere. 0.98

00:27:18.000 Not here.

00:27:20.000 But they played.

00:27:21.000 And then a week later...

00:27:24.000 I used to go during the middle of the day in my car in the Navy and go to happy hour.

00:27:31.000 And I'm walking in and the owner comes out. 1.00

00:27:34.000 He's like, you got to see this fucking band. 1.00

00:27:35.000 You got to see this band. 1.00

00:27:36.000 I'm like, all right, cool.

00:27:37.000 I'm going in.

00:27:38.000 He's like, no, you don't understand. 1.00

00:27:40.000 They're fucking black, man. 1.00

00:27:41.000 And they're incredible. 1.00

00:27:44.000 So I go upstairs and Bad Brains are sound checking. 0.99

00:27:47.000 And I'm just like, what the fuck is this? 0.93

00:27:50.000 And if you haven't seen the Bad Brains, I'll tell you the best video to watch. 0.99

00:27:54.000 1982, CBGB's.

00:27:56.000 They got the whole set up there. 1.00

00:27:58.000 And if you want to have your shit blown away, just watch that. 0.99

00:28:02.000 So that's what... 1.00

00:28:04.000 I actually sold their manager acid.

00:28:07.000 I was selling acid at the time. 0.98

00:28:09.000 So their manager, I sold him acid, but I got to talk with HR, and he started telling me about this PMA shit, and I told him, yeah, man, I fucking got out of jail and went into the Navy because I caught another case. 0.97

00:28:22.000 They offered me military. 0.98

00:28:23.000 Here we go.

00:28:24.000 There's them right there.

00:28:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:28:26.000 Fucking amazing, dude. 0.98

00:28:30.000 Will this get us taken off YouTube, you think? 0.99

00:28:32.000 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 That's the singer. 1.00

00:28:35.000 He's a fucking maniac. 1.00

00:28:37.000 He does a backflip perfectly on the end of this one song at the movies and lands it perfectly. 1.00

00:28:42.000 That's at CB's in 82. Wow.

00:28:44.000 I wasn't there.

00:28:45.000 I was their roadie.

00:28:46.000 I was in high school.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, so I was actually living as a Hare Krishna monk at the time in Hawaii.

00:28:52.000 So how did the Hare Krishna thing?

00:28:54.000 Well, I'm going to tell you.

00:28:55.000 Okay.

00:28:55.000 So...

00:28:56.000 What happened was they had...

00:28:59.000 So, I talked with HR. He said, yeah, man.

00:29:02.000 It was really funny because they were all from D.C., but they talked with Patois.

00:29:05.000 I said, yeah, man.

00:29:07.000 Jogging the range, man.

00:29:08.000 We're going to run into each other again, you know.

00:29:11.000 So...

00:29:13.000 I beat someone down on my ship pretty bad and I got caught for a drug case in Norfolk. 0.99

00:29:18.000 So I knew that they was trying to persecute me and, you know, send me to fucking prison. 0.97

00:29:25.000 And I was like, really not going to have that. 0.97

00:29:29.000 So my ship pulled out and we were going to like shell back to South America.

00:29:35.000 And I had this...

00:29:36.000 I was basically under arrest because the fight...

00:29:40.000 It was a civilian case for the drugs.

00:29:42.000 I sold to an undercover cop outside of a club called Kingshead Inn in Norfolk on Hampton Boulevard.

00:29:48.000 They did punk shows.

00:29:50.000 So I sold him LSD. And he was an undercover cop.

00:29:56.000 So I got arrested for that.

00:29:57.000 And then that was pending.

00:29:59.000 Meanwhile, I go on my ship.

00:30:01.000 We go out to sea. 1.00

00:30:02.000 This one redneck kept fucking with me. 1.00

00:30:04.000 And he was like, fuck you, New York faggot. 1.00

00:30:07.000 And I'm like, dude, chill. 1.00

00:30:10.000 You don't know me. 0.99

00:30:12.000 I'm not fucking with you. 1.00

00:30:14.000 Just let it go, man. 0.99

00:30:15.000 And he just wouldn't let it go.

00:30:16.000 So I trapped him in the paint locker.

00:30:20.000 I was a Boson mate. 1.00

00:30:22.000 And I beat him with a fucking paint can in the soft tissue till he shit his pants. 1.00

00:30:28.000 Then they arrested me. 1.00

00:30:30.000 So they had me under fucking ships arrest and all this shit. 0.99

00:30:35.000 And I got this bad infection. 0.99

00:30:37.000 They had to medevac me off the ship back to Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico. 0.99

00:30:42.000 And they forgot to say that, you know, I'm supposed to be handcuffed to the fucking bed. 0.99

00:30:47.000 And then... 1.00

00:30:49.000 They cut.

00:30:49.000 They didn't send those orders because this was pre-computer.

00:30:53.000 So the paperwork got fucked up. 0.55

00:30:55.000 They gave me my ID and then they sent me back to Norfolk. 0.99

00:30:59.000 And then I was just doing all my shit. 0.89

00:31:02.000 So they just didn't know that you're supposed to be incarcerated? 0.99

00:31:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:05.000 They didn't know that I'm supposed to be a waiting court, probably court-martial, whatever the fuck. 0.98

00:31:10.000 And then the civilian case too. 0.93

00:31:12.000 So then I was in Nimitz Hall, which is TPU, Transient Personnel Union, waiting for my ship to come back.

00:31:21.000 And they were going to deal with it then.

00:31:22.000 So I was there for like, I don't know, like a month and a half.

00:31:26.000 And they were like, yo, your ship, the dude I was cool with, he warned me.

00:31:30.000 He goes, yo. 0.98

00:31:31.000 Your ship is fucking docking today. 1.00

00:31:34.000 And I was like, fuck. 1.00

00:31:35.000 I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:31:37.000 So I just packed up a couple things. 0.92

00:31:39.000 And I got on the bus that used to go through the base and then roll out Hampton Boulevard. 0.98

00:31:46.000 As I'm fucking... 0.96

00:31:47.000 They had already pulled in. 0.99

00:31:49.000 And as I'm pulling out the gate in the seat, the fucking master at arms of my ship, the police, are right there walking across the street to fucking Nimitz Hall to get me. 0.99

00:32:01.000 And I just shrunk down in the seat. 0.99

00:32:04.000 But if they would have looked up...

00:32:06.000 That was it.

00:32:07.000 I wouldn't be here telling you this story because my life would have taken a much different trajectory.

00:32:12.000 So what happened was I went up and I hitchhiked with this band, The Undead, from New York, this punk band.

00:32:18.000 Bobby Steele was in here.

00:32:19.000 So you AWOL at the time?

00:32:21.000 Yeah, Bobby Steele was original Misfits.

00:32:23.000 So they played the 930 and they gave me a ride back to New York. 0.94

00:32:27.000 And I get out the van and right there on Avenue A, 171, was motherfucking HR in the doorway where they recorded and lived. 0.98

00:32:36.000 He's like, Rastafari! 1.00

00:32:38.000 I'm like, fuck! 1.00

00:32:40.000 And what happened was they were playing a show a couple days later, and there's a big Puerto Rican gang that was right there that didn't want them hanging out, so they went in there one night, and they killed people. 1.00

00:32:52.000 I'm not going to say the name of the fucking gang, because... 0.97

00:32:56.000 For whatever, you know, I'm not trying to out them like that, but they had the largest heroin cocaine spot in America. 1.00

00:33:03.000 The feds busted them, knocked down their building, the whole shit. 1.00

00:33:06.000 Alphabet City was out of fucking control. 1.00

00:33:08.000 So nobody, the Beastie Boys were there that night. 0.99

00:33:11.000 Nobody would fight these dudes back. 0.99

00:33:13.000 And I was on a fucking Quaalude, which is a gorilla biscuit. 1.00

00:33:16.000 You think you got crazy strength. 1.00

00:33:19.000 And I said to J.W.E., who was the engineer of their shit, I was like, yo... 1.00

00:33:24.000 Let's get these motherfuckers, man. 1.00

00:33:26.000 And he's like, dude, they kill people. 1.00

00:33:28.000 Don't fuck with them. 1.00

00:33:28.000 They will kill you. 1.00

00:33:30.000 And I was like, yo, come on, you fucking dudes, you're punk rock. 1.00

00:33:33.000 You're supposed to be fucking tough. 0.99

00:33:34.000 Let's fucking get these guys. 1.00

00:33:36.000 So they calmed me down. 1.00

00:33:38.000 But when I got outside, the dude tried to stab me.

00:33:40.000 So I blocked the knife and I hit him with an elbow and pop, pop, pop. 0.96

00:33:44.000 Knocked him down, smashed his head off the curb. 0.91

00:33:46.000 Next thing I know, four of his homies come charging at me. 1.00

00:33:49.000 Yo, you white motherfucker. 1.00

00:33:51.000 Trying to stab me. 1.00

00:33:52.000 And I used to wear a chain belt. 0.74

00:33:54.000 And you can ask Henry.

00:33:55.000 We all used to wear these chain belts with a quick release, a bike chain, to fight people. 0.99

00:34:00.000 Because in D.C. it would be the Marines would fucking... 0.99

00:34:03.000 Or the Rednecks would beat up the punk rockers. 1.00

00:34:06.000 So I got in a chain fight with these motherfuckers. 1.00

00:34:09.000 And I ended up... 1.00

00:34:10.000 So I go to run back into 171 because I lost the chain.

00:34:14.000 And one of the Beastie Boys tries to slam the door on me to keep me out on the street. 1.00

00:34:18.000 These motherfuckers want to kill me. 1.00

00:34:20.000 I pushed my way in. 1.00

00:34:21.000 I got stabbed in the shoulder and then they put out a KOS on me. 1.00

00:34:25.000 They were like we're gonna kill that motherfucker. 1.00

00:34:27.000 Nobody would hang out with me except for this one crazy Russian street fighter kid named James Contra. 1.00

00:34:33.000 That's the only dude.

00:34:35.000 So then I said I couldn't go down to Alphabet City at all. 1.00

00:34:39.000 They were waiting there with fucking guns and bats and like we're gonna kill that dude. 0.99

00:34:43.000 But because the bad brains were black they kind of Squashed it over, but I went up there to face them and they surrounded me like a fucking dude was like ready to fucking off me and Doc and Daryl, Doc's the guitar player, 1.00

00:34:59.000 Daryl's the bass player, came running out. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, chill, chill!

00:35:02.000 And they were like... 0.65

00:35:04.000 You know, he was just, you know, standing up like, y'all came in there trying to stab everybody. 1.00

00:35:09.000 You would have done the same shit. 0.99

00:35:11.000 And the one dude's name was Crazy Eddie. 0.99

00:35:13.000 And he got, I think he got murdered now, but he did Mad Time. 0.93

00:35:17.000 And he just looked at me and it was that moment of the standoff where I didn't know what the fuck he was going to do, but he just goes... 1.00

00:35:25.000 Out of all the white motherfuckers over here, you're the only one with heart. 1.00

00:35:29.000 We ain't never gonna fuck with y'all again. 1.00

00:35:31.000 Just don't hang out outside the storefront. 0.99

00:35:33.000 Because there was gigs at 171A. That's where Bad Brains played, Beastie Boys.

00:35:38.000 And then the Bad Brains let me move in.

00:35:42.000 And then they recorded that first album, which MCA from the Bad Brains, greatest hardcore punk album of all time, the Raw cassette, the Lightning Bolt.

00:35:50.000 I was there for the whole recording.

00:35:52.000 And then they got me a job, and this is where the Harry Christian thing comes in. 0.97

00:35:58.000 I always come full circle.

00:36:01.000 So this punk band named The Dots.

00:36:04.000 Who put out the first Bad Brains single, Jimmy Quit, was in the band.

00:36:07.000 And he put out a single called, Stay Close to Me and Pay to Come.

00:36:12.000 And Vinnie worked at this health food store.

00:36:14.000 So they started giving us food and that's when I started changing over to the diet.

00:36:19.000 Because Bad Brains were like...

00:36:20.000 HR would be like, you don't eat the fuckery, you don't eat the Babylon food, you got to eat ital. 0.59

00:36:26.000 Ital is vital, low-tile can be fatal. 0.88

00:36:30.000 Talk me to the health...

00:36:30.000 What is ITAL? It means pure plant-based food, no oil, no fucking salt.

00:36:36.000 No oil? 0.99

00:36:37.000 Yeah, dude, it's the strict...

00:36:38.000 What about like avocado oil?

00:36:40.000 Yeah.

00:36:41.000 Coconut oil?

00:36:41.000 No, no, like if you take coconut and you fucking shred it down so fine that the oil comes out of it, that's fine, but they don't do processed oils.

00:36:51.000 That's a different thing. 0.84

00:36:52.000 When you process the oil, if you have health problems, like what they proved in forks overnight, then it becomes...

00:36:59.000 Toxic oil to the body.

00:37:01.000 And if you have any kind of heart conditions and stuff like that, you should really avoid it.

00:37:05.000 So anyway, what they did was they got me... 0.97

00:37:07.000 They were smart because they wanted me to give them free food, the bad brains. 0.96

00:37:11.000 So they got me in the health food store.

00:37:13.000 And the dude was like this hippie yogi dude hooked up with Sachin Ananda, Swami.

00:37:18.000 It was called Prana Foods.

00:37:20.000 And he's like, well...

00:37:22.000 You're going to do karma yoga when you first come in here.

00:37:25.000 In other words, you're not going to get any money.

00:37:27.000 You can eat, and it's karma yoga.

00:37:30.000 It's good for your karma. 0.98

00:37:31.000 So then I told everybody in the motherfucking neighborhood, I was like, yo, I'm working at this health food store. 0.98

00:37:36.000 Come over and get some food. 0.99

00:37:38.000 So Bad Brains would come and load up groceries. 0.99

00:37:40.000 I worked at juice bars, giving out fucking sandwiches to the entire neighborhood. 0.99

00:37:44.000 And the dude was sitting there watching me. 0.98

00:37:46.000 And after the end of the day, he goes, excuse me, dude.

00:37:49.000 Did any of those people pay for that food? 0.99

00:37:51.000 I go, nah, man, that's that karma yoga shit you were talking to me about. 0.96

00:37:54.000 He's like, you're on salary as of tomorrow. 0.98

00:37:57.000 Do not give away any more food.

00:37:59.000 So then I was like, I worked there for a little while, and Vinny took me to the Hare Krishna temple on 55th Street.

00:38:06.000 So I kept trying to defeat this dude philosophically.

00:38:09.000 I was like, yo, but...

00:38:10.000 And he knew the whole philosophy of the Vedas and the Bhagavad Gita is where all the yoga...

00:38:17.000 All the Yoga Sutras and all of that comes out of the Bhagavad Gita.

00:38:21.000 And Prabhupada put out the Bhagavad Gita as it is, which was the original Bhagavad Gita from India.

00:38:26.000 And I kept trying to defeat it.

00:38:29.000 Do you read it?

00:38:29.000 Do you read the Bhagavad Gita?

00:38:30.000 All the time, every day.

00:38:31.000 I read Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam.

00:38:34.000 What do you think Soma is?

00:38:35.000 Who?

00:38:36.000 Soma.

00:38:36.000 What's the Soma?

00:38:38.000 Soma Ras.

00:38:39.000 Soma Ras, that is a drink that they drink on the heavenly planets.

00:38:44.000 It's a beverage on the heavenly planets that they get intoxicated from.

00:38:48.000 Yeah, the big question is like what's in it?

00:38:50.000 I don't know.

00:38:51.000 No one knows.

00:38:52.000 There's elements...

00:38:53.000 You know, when people say, you think there's life on other planets? 0.99

00:38:55.000 I'm like, what are you, a fucking Mama Luke? 1.00

00:38:57.000 Of course there's life on other planets. 1.00

00:38:59.000 You think you're the only fucking life in the universe? 0.99

00:39:01.000 Come on, man. 0.99

00:39:02.000 Well, that's one of the things in the Bhagavad Gita is flying crafts and Soma is one of them.

00:39:08.000 Yeah.

00:39:11.000 Soma, it's some sort of a psychedelic concoction, but nobody knows exactly what it is.

00:39:15.000 They think it might be a combination of several things.

00:39:18.000 They think for sure psilocybin's in it, but they think it might also be hashish, that hashish might be in it.

00:39:23.000 Yeah, I mean, there's elements...

00:39:26.000 In the upper planetary system, Brahma, Loka, and all these different planets in the solar system.

00:39:33.000 The Vedic astrology is much different than the Western astrology.

00:39:38.000 So they talk about planets way above Earth.

00:39:41.000 When they're teaching you the Bhagavad Gita, what do they describe Soma as?

00:39:46.000 They called it Soma Ras, and that was a beverage that's drunk in the heavenly planets.

00:39:51.000 It's not available on the Earth planet.

00:39:55.000 The demigods drink Soma Ras, demigods on other planets. 0.98

00:39:59.000 That's the only time people drink it?

00:40:01.000 I mean, I thought it was part of a ritualistic...

00:40:03.000 Yeah, I mean, you have Shiva, the Shivites smoke the ganja and stuff like that, and I don't know, you know, they put the ashes of the crematorium on their bodies and stuff like that, but they, you know, the thing about, there's four principles in Hare Krishna, when you live as a Brahmachari monk, which I did, and it's no intoxication at all.

00:40:21.000 No eating of meat, fish, eggs, none of that.

00:40:25.000 No gambling and no illicit sex.

00:40:27.000 So I was actually a 100% brahmachari celibate monk.

00:40:32.000 For how long?

00:40:32.000 For two years.

00:40:33.000 And I trained martial arts in Hawaii in the hills with this one black dude who was fucking fierce. 0.98

00:40:40.000 And he was a brahmachari too. 0.97

00:40:41.000 So we would train...

00:40:43.000 And completely celibate.

00:40:45.000 I was getting up 2 o'clock every single day in the morning.

00:40:48.000 I was in bed by 8 and training and working and just, you know, trying to heal my soul.

00:40:55.000 But that came because when I first was going to the temple, I wrote, I would write down my questions. 0.99

00:41:02.000 I know I'm gonna get these motherfuckers tomorrow. 0.99

00:41:04.000 Cause I was reading Gorgiev, Krishnamurti, Ram Dass. 0.99

00:41:07.000 Like I studied, I saw all those guys.

00:41:10.000 I went to see Krishnamurti speak and meditate.

00:41:15.000 I was just eating it up. 0.93

00:41:17.000 Like once that light came on, Metaphysically, for the meditation and the yoga and everything, I just went full fucking bore into it. 0.80

00:41:26.000 So it started from the health food store?

00:41:28.000 Yeah, because I worked...

00:41:29.000 So the health food store got you in there?

00:41:30.000 Vinnie Signorelli, who's now the drummer for The Unsane, he still plays drums, he was in The Dots, he was in Turbo Hydramatics, a bunch of bands in New York, and he just started hitting me with questions.

00:41:44.000 What do you think this is?

00:41:45.000 What do you think?

00:41:45.000 I was like, I don't know, man.

00:41:46.000 And then after giving me this book, he gave me this book called The Science of Self-Realization, and I read it, and I was like, dude, this yoga master, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, I was like, I gotta find out, where is this guy?

00:42:00.000 And he said, oh, he left the planet in 77, but you could go to the temple and see the whole process.

00:42:05.000 I was like, yo, I wanna go.

00:42:07.000 And I went, and they had this ceremony, and it's called Greeting of the Deities, and then the song that gets played, George Harrison, Plays bass on it.

00:42:16.000 And I was like, yeah, it was from the Brahma Samhita.

00:42:20.000 And I was...

00:42:21.000 I just was attracted to it. 0.97

00:42:24.000 Everything I'd known in my life was pain and violence and just fucking crazy. 0.95

00:42:28.000 I mean, you know... 0.95

00:42:29.000 So it was a pathway to some sort of an escape from the trappings of your past.

00:42:35.000 It was a pathway to enlightenment.

00:42:37.000 It was a pathway to peace.

00:42:39.000 Absolutely.

00:42:40.000 Peace.

00:42:40.000 But...

00:42:41.000 Some of the most fierce warriors and what I loved about Bhagavad Gita is spoken on a battlefield between Krishna and Arjuna.

00:42:48.000 Arjuna was a Chacharya. 0.82

00:42:50.000 This line, this Sampradaya comes from the warrior class.

00:42:54.000 And if you read any books on martial arts, they're going to tell you that martial arts originated in India.

00:43:00.000 The original martial arts school were all in India and at one point Sankacharya chased all the Buddhists out of India and they fled across the Himalayas into China.

00:43:11.000 So this is actual history and you can see where the martial arts spread out across the planet.

00:43:19.000 You know, a lot of it, a lot of things that are around today originated in India.

00:43:26.000 So to me, that really, I was always in, you know, I was a street fighter.

00:43:32.000 I messed around even, you know, with some going to martial arts schools, always on the outskirts though.

00:43:39.000 I even went and trained with Ron Van Cleef when he had his school in New York. 0.99

00:43:43.000 No shit. 0.99

00:43:44.000 Yeah, but he would always be training police forces, and I was the only white dude in the class, and it was all blacks and Puerto Ricans, and when it came time to spar, they beat the shit out of me. 1.00

00:43:54.000 I was getting fucking wrecked by the black belts. 1.00

00:43:58.000 There was no light sparring back then. 0.99

00:44:00.000 No.

00:44:01.000 Nobody sparred light back then.

00:44:02.000 Yo, there was schools.

00:44:03.000 Victor Vega, Ron Van Cleef, Ron Taganashi, this dude, Doc.

00:44:09.000 This other dude named Rodan who ran the school, University of Streets. 0.98

00:44:13.000 They would run from into the dojo like 20 dudes and just all out fucking brawl. 0.98

00:44:19.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:44:20.000 Like even Brian Callen, his teacher and all these guys, they trained under Master Choi and he encouraged you to fight.

00:44:30.000 Yeah.

00:44:30.000 You are training to fight.

00:44:33.000 It was very common back then.

00:44:34.000 That was a big part of it because you had to develop people that could actually perform in competition.

00:44:39.000 And one of the best ways to do that was to have challenge matches.

00:44:42.000 So like when you're talking about smokers, they used to allow that in LA up until real recently.

00:44:47.000 In the last 10 years or so, they banned smokers.

00:44:50.000 But you used to be able to get your experience in actual fights in a smoker.

00:44:55.000 And that was a little bit more prepared than the dojo storming days.

00:45:00.000 But the dojo storming days, that's how a lot of people got good.

00:45:03.000 You have real fights.

00:45:04.000 You would go in there, some guy would come from another school, and you knew you were going to hit each other as hard as you could.

00:45:09.000 It wasn't really sparring.

00:45:11.000 Well, I'll tell you a lot of that spun into gang bonds, too, because a lot of the people that were the martial arts teachers, this one dude, JR, he's famous.

00:45:18.000 He was in the New York Times.

00:45:19.000 He was one of the biggest heroin traffickers on the Lower East Side.

00:45:22.000 He was one of the first guys to get busted under the RICO stature.

00:45:26.000 He did the full 25, and he trained all of the dudes that sold for him, and all his street soldiers were all trained in martial arts. 0.99

00:45:36.000 So a lot of these guys were doing shady shit. 0.92

00:45:39.000 Behind the scenes, because that's what Alphabet City and the Lower East Side, and that's what New York was about. 0.99

00:45:45.000 I'm actually good friends with Tymok. 0.99

00:45:47.000 Oh, no shit. 0.99

00:45:49.000 Yeah, Tymok. 0.99

00:45:50.000 From The Last Dragon?

00:45:51.000 Tymok's father is a Hare Krishna.

00:45:53.000 His name is Cosmo. 0.98

00:45:54.000 I met him in L.A. like fucking 20 years ago. 0.98

00:45:57.000 He came to a show. 0.98

00:45:58.000 I was like, that's The Last Dragon.

00:45:59.000 Yeah.

00:46:00.000 Well, you know, he...

00:46:01.000 I won't... 0.99

00:46:03.000 Say names, but he outed somebody that tried to do some shit to him, and they blackballed him in Hollywood, and the guy said, you're never going to make another motherfucking movie, and he hasn't. 1.00

00:46:14.000 He got fucking, dude. 0.99

00:46:16.000 You know that happened to Hulk Hogan? 1.00

00:46:18.000 Somebody tried to fuck Hulk Hogan. 0.99

00:46:20.000 Can you imagine? 0.99

00:46:21.000 You've been around Hulk Hogan?

00:46:22.000 He's a giant human being. 1.00

00:46:24.000 Some guy was like, I'm going to suck your dick, and he's like, no, brother! 1.00

00:46:29.000 Like, for real. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Step up to the Slim Timber.

00:46:32.000 This is like this Terry Crews thing.

00:46:34.000 A lot of people have made fun of Terry Crews because that is this big stud of an athlete. 1.00

00:46:38.000 Who cares who grabs your dick? 1.00

00:46:40.000 Just swat that guy in the head. 1.00

00:46:41.000 But he's saying, no, this is a systemic problem when you have people that are in power and they control your destiny. 0.96

00:46:49.000 And there's a lot of that. 1.00

00:46:50.000 Fuck it, they'll ruin you, man. 1.00

00:46:52.000 And they did a lot of people. 1.00

00:46:53.000 Listen, like, the whole, like... 1.00

00:46:56.000 The whole Me Too shit. 1.00

00:46:57.000 First of all, my mother was raped twice. 1.00

00:47:00.000 So if some dude is pushing his weight around on a female, I think that shit's fucked up. 1.00

00:47:09.000 And then they're going to turn around and fucking fuck these people. 1.00

00:47:12.000 I say fucking get them the fuck out of there. 1.00

00:47:15.000 And I'm going to tell you a story because Julia Phillips and Michael Phillips, they fucking produced one of my favorite movies of all time, which was Taxi Driver. 1.00

00:47:26.000 And Close Encounters. 0.96

00:47:27.000 They did all those movies.

00:47:28.000 She wrote a book called You'll Never Do Lunch In This Town Again in the 80s.

00:47:33.000 She had the Cro-Mags come and play in a movie at the Ritz. 1.00

00:47:36.000 They flew us off the Motorhead tour, picked us up in limos. 1.00

00:47:40.000 She wanted the shit to be lip sunk. 1.00

00:47:42.000 I said, nah, if you want the Cro-Mags, it's a fucking real show and we're going to fucking lay it down. 1.00

00:47:47.000 We had like a thousand of our fans there. 0.99

00:47:50.000 Ankle tape, everything. 1.00

00:47:51.000 Fucking dude, just crazy. 1.00

00:47:52.000 Crazy shit and two people broke their necks during the shooting so the movie is called it's called the beat Yeah, but the thing was she was one of the first people to put out and expose these fucking scumbags for doing that shit To people in Hollywood and exposed a lot of that in a book You'll never do lunch in this town again and when the book came out she was on the set for interview with a vampire and And they came and pulled her off the set, 1.00

00:48:19.000 and she was fucking blackballed from fucking Hollywood. 1.00

00:48:22.000 She never made any more fucking movies. 1.00

00:48:24.000 This is all pre-internet. 1.00

00:48:25.000 This is what this was.

00:48:26.000 Yeah, this is pre-internet.

00:48:27.000 They could get away with things like that back then. 1.00

00:48:28.000 Yeah, and she just fucking put up the middle finger to all of them, like, fuck you. 1.00

00:48:32.000 She passed away of cancer. 1.00

00:48:33.000 But she was like a real fucking punk rocker, man. 1.00

00:48:36.000 She fucking took on the system. 1.00

00:48:38.000 The Boys Club in Hollywood... 1.00

00:48:42.000 Even the shit, I don't know how legit the Corey Feldman stuff is. 0.99

00:48:47.000 I know him and whatever, but he's saying... 0.99

00:48:50.000 There's a problem that you don't...

00:48:51.000 Yeah, it's like one of those things where I don't know what to do here.

00:48:53.000 Yeah.

00:48:54.000 There's some shenanigans.

00:48:56.000 But I know that it's...

00:48:57.000 Something happened.

00:48:58.000 Yeah, I know it goes on.

00:49:00.000 Something happened.

00:49:01.000 And it's not just him.

00:49:02.000 I mean, the list is a mile long, and for everybody that comes forth, there's a million people that are sitting back going, I don't want to say anything because I don't want to take that shame on him.

00:49:10.000 Well, that's what happened with me.

00:49:11.000 It was the same thing. 0.98

00:49:13.000 You have this rep and whatever the fuck, but that's all false ego, even all of that stuff. 0.94

00:49:18.000 And then the person that I was with at the time said, this story is going to help a lot of people. 0.98

00:49:25.000 By you coming forward and saying what happened to you and how you're dealing with it now.

00:49:31.000 I got this new book, The PMA Effect, coming out. 0.98

00:49:35.000 The whole shit is about healing people. 0.98

00:49:39.000 I've helped thousands of people kick drugs, kick suicidal thoughts. 0.99

00:49:45.000 And, you know, it's not that I'm like, I'm turning him into a vegan.

00:49:49.000 It's like, dude, I'm gonna show you the system that worked for me. 0.99

00:49:53.000 That's all I can do is tell you, I'm like the fucking mailman, you know? 1.00

00:49:57.000 I'm just delivering the fucking mail to you. 0.99

00:50:00.000 I didn't come up with it, but I'm showing you the yoga, the plant-based diet, the meditation, the training, constant fucking training. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Well, through all the things you're doing, you're committed, and you're disciplined, and that's attractive to people, right? 0.93

00:50:16.000 People look for people that are doing things that they wish they were doing.

00:50:19.000 So they see someone, I mean, that's the whole cult of personality, right?

00:50:22.000 They see you, they see you, you got this powerful personality, and you're positive, you're doing things, and people gravitate to that, and they want to be a part of that.

00:50:31.000 I mean, that's...

00:50:32.000 That's what happens with people.

00:50:33.000 But the first thing that I—and I said it because Vice did a whole 18-minute special on me. 0.99

00:50:38.000 If you just Google fucking vegan Iron Man, this shit comes up. 0.98

00:50:45.000 They did an 18-minute documentary. 1.00

00:50:46.000 And one of the things I said first off is don't say you can't do it. 0.98

00:50:51.000 You could do any fucking thing you apply yourself to. 0.98

00:50:54.000 You just haven't tried. 0.99

00:50:56.000 You could do what I'm doing. 0.97

00:50:57.000 And I'm going to tell you, I go to races, these Ironmans all over the fucking world, and these guys show me pictures. 0.99

00:51:03.000 One guy was fucking... 0.99

00:51:04.000 He lost 100 fucking pounds, dude. 1.00

00:51:07.000 He was so depressed. 1.00

00:51:07.000 He was on meds for depression. 1.00

00:51:10.000 So everything that I'm doing is coming out of service.

00:51:13.000 It's service to help people. 0.99

00:51:15.000 I come at them right from the same fucking platform. 0.99

00:51:19.000 And even the Vedas, what does it say? 0.99

00:51:25.000 You should think of yourself lower than a straw in the street, more tolerant than a tree, always ready to offer respects to others.

00:51:33.000 In that state of mind, one can constantly chant the holy names of Hare Krishna.

00:51:37.000 So that's the philosophy. 1.00

00:51:39.000 So where is the false ego in thinking, I'm better than you because I eat a motherfucking vegetable and you eat a fucking piece of meat or whatever? 1.00

00:51:46.000 It's not about that. 0.99

00:51:48.000 It's about trying to help people and have compassion to people.

00:51:52.000 And that's something that's really getting lost...

00:51:54.000 In this world is compassion.

00:51:57.000 Everybody wants to kick people when they're down. 1.00

00:51:59.000 And I just don't understand where this fucking sickness came from. 0.99

00:52:04.000 And I think a lot of it has to do with reality TV and this whole microwave, insta-fame fucking culture that exists now. 0.99

00:52:12.000 It's like what you said. 0.98

00:52:13.000 They think that if they put down somebody, they're going to gain power from it.

00:52:19.000 It's just crazy.

00:52:20.000 I don't come from that.

00:52:21.000 I come from, like, yo, man, let's help one another to make this world a better place.

00:52:27.000 How are we going to save the oceans?

00:52:28.000 How are we going to save, you know, and, you know, my thing is this. 0.99

00:52:32.000 Look, they just said that the fucking commercial meat and dairy industries are now the most toxic. 1.00

00:52:41.000 They're the most toxic companies on the fucking planet. 1.00

00:52:45.000 They just surpass fossil fuel with the destruction they're doing to the planet. 1.00

00:52:49.000 So I'm like...

00:52:51.000 Eat a little less meat.

00:52:52.000 Where's this coming from?

00:52:53.000 It was just all on, where did I read it?

00:52:57.000 It was on one of the main sites.

00:53:01.000 So is this from methane gas?

00:53:04.000 Is it from runoff?

00:53:05.000 Fossil fuels, runoff.

00:53:07.000 Look, here's the thing. 0.98

00:53:08.000 So, before that Gulf oil spill ever happened, there was a fucking dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico the size of New Jersey. 0.98

00:53:16.000 Why? 1.00

00:53:16.000 All the fucking runoff of the CAFOs and the farms with the fucking toxic pesticides, all the shit that these guys are spraying, Roundup and everything else, and the nitrogen that's in the fucking shit when these lagoons that have 100,000 fucking gallons of pig shit... 1.00

00:53:36.000 It all was draining into the Mississippi and then draining into the Gulf. 1.00

00:53:41.000 So if you look at what's going on in North Carolina right now, because I was just there, motherfuckers can't even swim in the fucking rivers anymore. 0.99

00:53:48.000 And it's happening in Europe too. 0.99

00:53:50.000 They just had to cancel the swim on...

00:53:52.000 The Iron Man in Hamburg because of the green allergy and all the shit that's happening now because of all the runoff that's happening with the farms and everything. 0.99

00:54:03.000 We're making this planet a fucking toxic wasteland. 0.98

00:54:07.000 Well, what we've done with farms and it's gotten... 0.99

00:54:09.000 We develop cities.

00:54:11.000 We have giant groups of people that aren't growing anything.

00:54:14.000 And then we've given people incentive to make as much profit as possible.

00:54:19.000 And when they're trying to make as much profit as possible without ethics or morals in consideration or the impact on the environment, they set off a process in motion that we are many, many decades into right now.

00:54:30.000 So to try to correct it now, we're just seeing the effects.

00:54:34.000 And then on top of that, there's all these ag-gag laws. 0.54

00:54:36.000 And the ag-gag I'm not participating in this. 0.95

00:54:48.000 I have to figure out what I'm going to do.

00:54:49.000 I'm either going to become a vegetarian or I'm going to become a hunter.

00:54:52.000 I decided to become a hunter and that's how I get my meat.

00:54:55.000 But when you see those videos, those are the videos that expose people to the realities and the horrors of factory farming.

00:55:03.000 And those are illegal in most places.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, you go to prison now.

00:55:06.000 You go to prison for showing horrible, immoral acts that are done to these animals and the way they're treated and the way they're contained.

00:55:14.000 We were talking yesterday about this video of a pig farm.

00:55:18.000 There's this pig farm where these pigs are smashed into this place where they can't move at all.

00:55:23.000 They're all in these cages.

00:55:24.000 Crates. 1.00

00:55:26.000 From where they shit and piss, and there's a giant lake outside of pig shit and pig piss. 1.00

00:55:31.000 And no one who lives anywhere near that can avoid that smell. 1.00

00:55:34.000 You drive anywhere near that area, it's a horrific, toxic smell.

00:55:38.000 So, it's already gotten to this almost, like, incorrectable position.

00:55:43.000 Like, that business is a toxic business.

00:55:46.000 But it's not a regular, like a Joel Salatin farm.

00:55:49.000 You know who that guy is?

00:55:50.000 No.

00:55:50.000 You ever heard of him?

00:55:51.000 He runs this farm called Polyface Farms, and what he does is he has all these animals live like normal animals.

00:55:58.000 Like the pigs, they're not in these cages.

00:56:01.000 He has them roam free, and they set up these enormous portable fences.

00:56:06.000 So they take the pigs, they roam in this one area like pigs naturally do, and then they move the fence to a different area, and they transport, you know, move the pigs over with it.

00:56:15.000 So the pigs are never contained.

00:56:17.000 The chickens run free, and then they go back into the chicken house at night.

00:56:21.000 And then they try not to have monocrops.

00:56:23.000 Like, when you have monocrops, A thousand acres of soybeans. 1.00

00:56:27.000 That shit ain't normal. 0.99

00:56:27.000 That's not how plants are supposed to be. 0.99

00:56:29.000 And then you have to throw pesticides on them. 0.89

00:56:31.000 And then when you're rolling them up, you have to grind everything up with these gigantic machines and everything gets caught up in there.

00:56:37.000 Mice and rabbits and everything that might be in the neighborhood while these machines are rolling over.

00:56:42.000 All of that is unnatural.

00:56:44.000 And it's not how human beings are supposed to grow food.

00:56:46.000 It's not how food is supposed to be...

00:56:48.000 It's not how these plants or animals are supposed to be interacting with the environment.

00:56:52.000 But what we're doing with these things is making incredible amounts of profit.

00:56:56.000 And these people are addicted to this profit.

00:56:58.000 These corporations are addicted to this profit.

00:57:00.000 They have this constant growth mentality where every year, every quarter has to have more.

00:57:06.000 It's a never-ending growth cycle.

00:57:08.000 The laws.

00:57:09.000 That's the other thing. 0.99

00:57:10.000 Well, they have massive amounts of money, so they bribe politicians, and they use all of these lobbyists, and what they do is they get these laws passed where it's illegal to film them doing immoral shit. 0.98

00:57:24.000 And so then you don't see this. 0.98

00:57:26.000 You just go to the store and you buy a cheeseburger.

00:57:28.000 You go to Jack in the Box.

00:57:30.000 You go wherever you go and you buy these things.

00:57:32.000 You get corn.

00:57:33.000 Or you get corn syrup in your soda.

00:57:36.000 You don't think twice about what has to happen for that corn to become syrup and how much environmental damage has to take place.

00:57:44.000 The world we're living in right now is just waking up to what has been in motion for many, many decades.

00:57:52.000 I think what's really important, though, is that we're honest about health and that we're honest about the consequences of our actions in terms of our purchasing power, what we're doing with food.

00:58:03.000 We've got to be honest about all of it.

00:58:05.000 And one of the problems that happens with hunters or carnivores or even vegans or vegetarians is people only want to look at things that support Right.

00:58:15.000 And with vegans, there's a lot of people out there that only want to look at things that support vegan positions in terms of health.

00:58:22.000 And this becomes a real problem because they start using studies that are very shaky, they start adding things to documentaries that aren't necessarily true or proven, and it becomes propaganda.

00:58:34.000 And it becomes propaganda both ways.

00:58:36.000 I see it with this carnivore diet now.

00:58:38.000 There's a lot of people with this carnivore diet that are like, this is the only way to go.

00:58:42.000 You know, just eat all meat.

00:58:43.000 And I'm like, man, I don't know about all that.

00:58:45.000 I don't see any blood work.

00:58:47.000 I see blood work only...

00:58:48.000 I talked to Sean...

00:58:51.000 What is his last name?

00:58:52.000 Sean the doctor. 0.99

00:58:54.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:58:56.000 The fuck? 1.00

00:58:56.000 He's the main carnivore guy. 1.00

00:58:59.000 How can I not remember his name?

00:59:01.000 What is...

00:59:01.000 How is that slipping my...

00:59:03.000 Sean Baker.

00:59:04.000 Sean Baker.

00:59:05.000 Sean Baker.

00:59:06.000 He released his blood work.

00:59:07.000 It's not good.

00:59:07.000 Yeah.

00:59:08.000 His blood work's not good.

00:59:09.000 Testosterone's low.

00:59:10.000 There's all sorts of issues.

00:59:11.000 And I just want to say, who are the...

00:59:13.000 Let's just look at it this way.

00:59:15.000 Who...

00:59:16.000 Who are the hospitals filled with that are having procedures for bypass?

00:59:21.000 Who are the procedures being done for people removing their limbs for diabetes?

00:59:26.000 It's the people that are eating this toxic diet that Americans, the standard American diet and what people have become accustomed to eating, rolling up and even these carnivore people.

00:59:40.000 Let's just take that for instance.

00:59:43.000 If you do all meat, sure, your body... 1.00

00:59:47.000 That motherfucker might have been on a Dorito diet. 1.00

00:59:49.000 We don't know what the fuck he was eating prior to that. 1.00

00:59:53.000 So then you put... 0.99

00:59:53.000 The body's a perfect machine. 0.99

00:59:55.000 So at the beginning of when you're doing all meat, the body's becoming accustomed to that.

01:00:00.000 But you know, the analogy that I use is that's like getting off heroin and getting on methadone because the methadone... 0.98

01:00:08.000 Yo, I kicked dope, but I'm on fucking meth now. 0.99

01:00:10.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:00:11.000 Because the methadone down the road is going to take even a longer toll.

01:00:16.000 And I've seen people that are doing methadone for 20-30 years, and that's why I love the analogy, because the long-term studies of those diets do not exist right now.

01:00:27.000 No, there's no long-term studies for the carnivores.

01:00:29.000 But if you look at the blue zones around the planet of the people who were the most centurions and the people that lived the longest, they have three things in common, okay?

01:00:38.000 And there's blue zones in Japan, Costa Rica, Greece, Iran, United States.

01:00:45.000 Well, the top five with the most.

01:00:47.000 And then California, and it's the Adventists, the seven-day Adventists.

01:00:52.000 So the three things that they have most in common with the people that live the longest, number one, they have a meditation spiritual practice.

01:00:59.000 They do something every day for PMA, for positive mental attitude.

01:01:04.000 Whatever their higher power is, they do that every day.

01:01:08.000 Number two, they move their bodies.

01:01:10.000 They're working, they work in the farm, they're exercising.

01:01:13.000 Number three, they eat primarily a plant-based diet.

01:01:17.000 They may have a piece of fish in Japan or whatever, or a piece of meat once in a while, but primarily The Adventist study was actually the best one because it was all from different people with different ethnic backgrounds.

01:01:33.000 And the one thing that they had in common, the seven-day Adventists don't eat meat.

01:01:37.000 And that's my point with the whole thing.

01:01:42.000 You know, when it comes down to diet, I just see what worked for me, and I try to relay that to people, and not be like, my way's the only way, and this and that, because people are doing other things in their way. 0.89

01:01:59.000 There's raw foodists, there's all these different people, and the problem is, with the false ego and the human being, everybody wants to think That the glass is full, don't try to tell me shit, I know it all. 0.79

01:02:10.000 Here's an issue with centurions. 0.91

01:02:12.000 Centurions, how do you say it?

01:02:14.000 Centurions.

01:02:15.000 Centenarians?

01:02:16.000 Centenarians.

01:02:16.000 I think it's centenarians, yeah.

01:02:18.000 People that live to be 100 years, there's one thing we have to take into consideration.

01:02:22.000 You're talking about people that lived already to be 100 years.

01:02:25.000 So when they were 50, it was 50 years ago.

01:02:28.000 We're talking about 1967. Nobody knew shit about diet back then. 0.87

01:02:32.000 This is a fact. 0.70

01:02:33.000 Right.

01:02:33.000 Okay, so the people that did live that long and they were living this, it's almost an accident in some ways or inconsequential.

01:02:41.000 Like what is going on today with people's diet and how long will people live today?

01:02:46.000 There's far more information in terms of like nutrition and what you should do and shouldn't do for your body.

01:02:52.000 So what I'm concerned with is like what optimizes people today?

01:02:56.000 I want to see blood work.

01:02:57.000 I want to see what is going on with your blood lipids.

01:03:00.000 What is going on with your nutrient levels?

01:03:02.000 What is going on with that?

01:03:03.000 And in that case, we have just a few studies from a few people or a few tests from a few people that have done this carnivore diet.

01:03:12.000 We have some people that have done the vegan diet and have had real hard problems with that diet.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, but let me just say one thing, because to throw the word vegan on something, that does not make it a healthy diet. 0.55

01:03:22.000 I know vegans that are fucking 100 pounds overweight, they eat nothing but fried tofu. 0.73

01:03:26.000 Vegan pizza. 0.99

01:03:27.000 If you say an organic, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with. 0.93

01:03:32.000 I don't fucking say I... A good point.

01:03:34.000 A vegan diet could mean anything, but when you say whole food, foods in their original source, organic, no pesticides, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with. 0.92

01:03:44.000 So that's why I don't go around...

01:03:45.000 Nutrient dense.

01:03:47.000 Mineral dense.

01:03:47.000 And this is one of the things that's important with people that live a long time.

01:03:51.000 One of the things that you get from a lot of plants, especially like rich, green, leafy plants, you get a lot of minerals.

01:03:57.000 Absolutely.

01:03:58.000 And more importantly, if these things are raised in an organic environment, you're getting soil that's not depleted.

01:04:04.000 And this is a big problem with monocrops.

01:04:06.000 Did you see the article that just came out today that 40 years ago an orange was 10 times more nutritious?

01:04:14.000 I think it was...

01:04:15.000 I think it might have been CNN online or something.

01:04:18.000 They posted an article that said the fruits and vegetables from 40 years ago were 10 times more nutritious than the way they're being grown today because, like you said, rows and rows and rows.

01:04:33.000 It makes sense.

01:04:33.000 How do they extract the nutrients properly from the soil?

01:04:38.000 It's impossible.

01:04:38.000 Yeah, they don't.

01:04:39.000 Well, you know, they have to actually add nutrients to the soil.

01:04:42.000 Most of the time they're just adding nitrogen and a few other different minerals.

01:04:45.000 But there's mineral depletion. 1.00

01:04:47.000 Or pig shit. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Like what they do is to get... 1.00

01:04:51.000 How do they get rid of that pig shit? 1.00

01:04:53.000 They're spraying it on the fucking crops. 1.00

01:04:56.000 And, you know... 1.00

01:04:57.000 Well, you're supposed to rotate crops.

01:05:00.000 Right.

01:05:00.000 Crop rotation, what you plant next to each other.

01:05:04.000 Right.

01:05:04.000 Compost.

01:05:05.000 I'm not a farmer, composting, but I have a friend that is an organic farmer, and his name is Keith, and he farms up in New Hampshire, and he knows all about crop rotation.

01:05:19.000 Keith Leon Forte.

01:05:20.000 If you have a small farm, you can do it.

01:05:23.000 That's what he does.

01:05:23.000 He Yeah, it's a small farm.

01:05:25.000 Small farms are legit.

01:05:26.000 You can have a small farm and be in symbiosis.

01:05:30.000 You could be in harmony with the land. 0.99

01:05:33.000 But man, you're growing fucking a thousand acres of corn for cattle feed. 0.99

01:05:39.000 You might as well be making oil. 0.99

01:05:42.000 You're doing something that's kind of crazy to that environment.

01:05:45.000 It's not natural. 0.88

01:05:46.000 And listen, you know, I saw Ted Nugent play with fucking ACDC and Black Sabbath in 76 at Madison Square Garden. 0.90

01:05:54.000 I went to all them shows. 1.00

01:05:55.000 But, you know, when he came on and the shit that he was talking, I was just like, the fucking GMO crops... 1.00

01:06:03.000 80% of the GMO crop is being fed to animals for fucking slaughter. 1.00

01:06:08.000 What he called the stupid vegans are not the ones that are eating that shit. 1.00

01:06:13.000 Most of the crops that are genetically modified because you have these corporations, McDonald's, every one of these corporations, they want every fucking piece of meat to taste the same. 1.00

01:06:23.000 They want every fucking french fried potato to be the same. 0.97

01:06:27.000 So the only way they can control it... 0.99

01:06:29.000 Is the control of the genetic markers.

01:06:32.000 So that's why they're using a majority of the genetically modified grains.

01:06:39.000 And Monsanto, you know, who just got bought out by Bayer, and they're changing the name because Monsanto has such a big rep.

01:06:48.000 If you don't know it, Bayer just bought them.

01:06:51.000 Now, do you know the history of Bayer?

01:06:53.000 Pharmaceutical company.

01:06:54.000 No, but IG Farben.

01:06:56.000 No, prior to that.

01:06:58.000 They made the Zyklon gas that went into the Nazi death chambers. 0.71

01:07:02.000 Well, you know what's funny?

01:07:03.000 That Zyklon gas was created by Fritz Haber.

01:07:08.000 Fritz Haber is also the guy who created the process of extracting nitrogen from the air.

01:07:12.000 Really?

01:07:13.000 So he's the guy.

01:07:13.000 The reason why we can grow the kind of crops that we have today is because of Fritz Haber.

01:07:17.000 They say that 50% of the nitrogen in most people's DNA comes from the Haber method.

01:07:23.000 He also created Zyklon A. Zyklon A Zyklon B gas was the Nazis. 0.89

01:07:29.000 Well, he created Zyklon A and they added this smell to it so that you could smell this toxic gas so you would know it when it was coming so you can get out of the way.

01:07:36.000 The Nazis switched it to Zyklon B. Fritz Haber was actually a Jew and they took his invention and cut out the smell portion of it so that they could gas Jews with it. 0.81

01:07:47.000 Wow. 1.00

01:07:48.000 It's dark shit. 1.00

01:07:49.000 See, I said Joe's a smart motherfucker. 1.00

01:07:51.000 I'm learning some shit here today. 1.00

01:07:52.000 All right. 1.00

01:07:54.000 It's dark shit. 1.00

01:07:55.000 The Haber method saved a lot of people and killed a lot of people. 0.99

01:07:59.000 They wanted to try that guy for crimes against humanity while he was winning the Nobel Prize for science at the same time.

01:08:05.000 That's insane.

01:08:06.000 He was one of the first people that implemented a gassing program where they used it to gas the Allied troops in World War I. That was Haber.

01:08:15.000 Haber was a big part of that.

01:08:16.000 I did not know that. 1.00

01:08:18.000 Yeah, it's crazy shit. 0.99

01:08:20.000 So that is how we get nitrogen. 0.99

01:08:22.000 We get nitrogen from the Haber method when they're pouring nitrogen into the soil so they can grow plants.

01:08:29.000 That's a big part of it.

01:08:30.000 When you say genetically modified, too, a big part of that is we want to think about labs and science and all this jazz.

01:08:37.000 Almost everything we eat is genetically modified, including all of our grains, like especially all of our fruits and vegetables.

01:08:43.000 What we were saying about tomatoes or orange being different than it was 10 years ago. 0.98

01:08:48.000 Fucking everything's different, man. 0.96

01:08:50.000 Because they want these things to be durable so they can throw them in a bus, or a truck rather, and travel across the country and sell them somewhere else. 0.99

01:08:56.000 Well, here's the thing, and I know what they do.

01:08:58.000 They take the DNA of a flounder and inject it in a tomato so it can resist the fraud. 0.99

01:09:05.000 How the fuck do they do that? 0.99

01:09:06.000 I don't fucking know. 1.00

01:09:06.000 Is that real? 1.00

01:09:07.000 That's real.

01:09:08.000 So if you eat a tomato, does it have flounder in it?

01:09:10.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:10.000 Now vegans, if you're eating GMO shit, maybe you're not eating vegan food. 0.99

01:09:14.000 You could be eating a fish tomato. 0.99

01:09:16.000 Well, one thing is if you eat plants, plants absorb, like they've found salmon DNA in some plants because plants absorb the fish that people use for fertilizer.

01:09:29.000 Yeah.

01:09:30.000 You know, so you're getting some of that animal.

01:09:32.000 But it's a natural cycle that you're getting it through.

01:09:36.000 I mean, animals eat animals.

01:09:38.000 Plants eat animals.

01:09:39.000 Animals even eat plants. 1.00

01:09:40.000 I mean, there's fucking crazy plants in South America. 1.00

01:09:42.000 It looks like a vase. 1.00

01:09:44.000 And these rats, they get attracted to this sweet smell around the edges, and it's slick.

01:09:48.000 And they fall into the hole, and the plant closes in on them and swallows them and eats them.

01:09:53.000 Wow.

01:09:53.000 Yeah.

01:09:54.000 Well, you know, the other thing is this.

01:09:58.000 You have chemical companies making your food.

01:10:01.000 Their job is not to feed the world.

01:10:02.000 Their job is not to keep you healthy. 1.00

01:10:04.000 Their job is to sell fucking pesticides. 1.00

01:10:07.000 Let's be fucking straight up about it. 1.00

01:10:10.000 So, yeah, they created... 0.98

01:10:12.000 What was the other cross genetic...

01:10:15.000 There's a...

01:10:17.000 There's a vegetable, I think it was, was it cauliflower or broccoli?

01:10:22.000 They mixed two things and came out with...

01:10:24.000 It's a different process, what they're doing now. 0.99

01:10:27.000 And really what they do, when they can take Roundup and pesticides and put it in the fucking seed, is what they're doing now. 0.98

01:10:36.000 So the plant from the growth cycle is resistant to these bugs. 0.97

01:10:41.000 And all the people that are having the gut issues, I don't know if you listen, you know, I know you had Rich Roll on twice. 0.99

01:10:47.000 He's my fucker boy. 0.99

01:10:48.000 He's a homie. 1.00

01:10:49.000 He's a great dude. 1.00

01:10:50.000 Dude, he's fucking, everyone asks me like, what's that motherfucker life in real, what's he like in real life? 0.99

01:10:55.000 I'm like, that's the most genuine fucking dude, you know, you ever have anything going on. 1.00

01:11:00.000 He just wrote the forward to my new book, The PMA Effect. 0.99

01:11:04.000 I mean, he's such a fucking, he's a solid cat. 0.99

01:11:06.000 Very solid. 0.99

01:11:07.000 But, uh, where was I going with that? 0.98

01:11:09.000 You took me down to fucking- Plants, glyphosate. 0.88

01:11:11.000 Yeah, so he just had Dr. Zach Bush come on. 0.98

01:11:15.000 Who's a doctor?

01:11:16.000 This is clinical research.

01:11:17.000 This is not speculation. 0.98

01:11:18.000 This is not fucking vegan propaganda. 1.00

01:11:21.000 This is fucking science. 0.99

01:11:22.000 And he proved that glyphosate and what's happening now with the gut health of it. 0.99

01:11:27.000 Gut health is such a Yeah.

01:11:58.000 Well, here's what happens.

01:11:59.000 When they created it, one of the things, one of the reasons why they were able to implement it, they said it doesn't kill people, it kills plants and it kills bacteria.

01:12:06.000 So everybody's like, oh, fine.

01:12:07.000 No problem.

01:12:08.000 It only kills plants and bacteria.

01:12:10.000 That's totally safe.

01:12:11.000 No, your body is filled with bacteria.

01:12:14.000 Good bacteria.

01:12:15.000 Your gut has more E. coli than there's ever been a human being on the planet ever.

01:12:19.000 There's more E. coli in your stomach than any humans that have ever lived.

01:12:23.000 More numbers.

01:12:24.000 And you need them.

01:12:25.000 You need the bacteria.

01:12:26.000 This gut flora gets destroyed by glyphosate.

01:12:29.000 It gets destroyed by Roundup. 0.97

01:12:30.000 That's, I mean, that podcast that he did, that episode with Dr. Zach Bush, it's fucking unbelievable. 0.53

01:12:39.000 And I'm surprised, like, you know... 0.99

01:12:43.000 Motherfuckers didn't try to take that dude out at this point. 1.00

01:12:45.000 Well, they're making so much money and people aren't listening and there's so much signal. 0.99

01:12:49.000 There's so many noises going on.

01:12:51.000 And they use the word that everyone loves to use, the two words, conspiracy theorist.

01:12:57.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

01:12:58.000 But here's the thing. 0.97

01:12:59.000 Once you can prove something and there's data and evidence to back it up, it's no longer a theory, it's a fucking fact.

01:13:06.000 Well, it's not even a conspiracy.

01:13:08.000 It's just reality.

01:13:09.000 And by the way, when they implemented it, they probably did think that they could get away with it.

01:13:13.000 They think it would have been fine.

01:13:15.000 They really probably didn't know as much as we know today about gut biome.

01:13:19.000 Right. 0.99

01:13:19.000 That's all new shit. 0.99

01:13:20.000 That's all within the last couple of decades. 0.99

01:13:22.000 Do you do probiotics?

01:13:23.000 Yeah, a lot of probiotics.

01:13:24.000 How about prebiotics? 0.96

01:13:26.000 Yeah, kimchi is fucking amazing. 0.94

01:13:27.000 Yeah, I drink a lot of kombucha, eat a lot of kimchi. 1.00

01:13:32.000 That's where I get it from primarily.

01:13:34.000 That's good stuff.

01:13:35.000 Yeah, I mean gut biome is gigantic you know to the point where people make memes joking around about me saying gut biome because I say it so much.

01:13:43.000 And you know the other reason that I was I didn't know where this whole conversation would go because I have respect for you as a martial artist like I said I know Brian since the 80s and you know he always talked about you but Rich Roll wrote you and said that I was up at his house and heard that I was coming on a podcast and And you responded to him in a text message and said,

01:14:06.000 yeah, it's so fucking toxic what's going on.

01:14:09.000 Like, I just want to sit down with him. 0.95

01:14:11.000 Yeah.

01:14:11.000 It's another form of identity politics.

01:14:13.000 Yeah.

01:14:13.000 You know, and people, look, there's a lot of people that I'm friends with that have all sorts of, they agree with things that I don't agree with.

01:14:20.000 They have ideas that I don't agree with.

01:14:22.000 I mean, you're allowed to have varying opinions.

01:14:24.000 That's what human beings are all about.

01:14:26.000 We're supposed to be able to communicate our ideas, but you're not my enemy if you eat plants.

01:14:30.000 That's crazy.

01:14:31.000 Right.

01:14:31.000 And the problem is, I eat plants too.

01:14:33.000 I eat a shitload of them.

01:14:34.000 Like, this idea that, you know, that vegans and meat eaters are supposed to be enemies. 0.64

01:14:38.000 I mean, I hang out...

01:14:40.000 It's very strange.

01:14:40.000 Listen, man, I'm going to tell you straight up.

01:14:42.000 I hang out with dudes that fucking eat McDonald's. 0.99

01:14:45.000 Like, I have friends... 1.00

01:14:47.000 Like I said, I'm not the fly looking for the shit. 0.99

01:14:51.000 I try to look to the positivity of every human being and some of them eat meat. 0.99

01:14:57.000 My brother eats meat. 1.00

01:14:59.000 I'm supposed to hate my brother because my brother eats fucking meat. 1.00

01:15:04.000 You know, it's just like... 0.99

01:15:06.000 Like you said, it's identity politics and I don't roll with that because in my line of work and what I'm doing, which is getting people out of some really dark fucking shit in their lives, like this documentary I'm doing now called 30 to Life... 0.99

01:15:21.000 The shit that these fucking inmates have been through and the you know I met one guy he did 50 fucking years man and he's 90 years old and his story is he's in Amity Foundation and his story is out now he's in this he just got paroled after 50 years I got a picture of him in my fucking phone and listen to his story before you judge a motherfucker because they got locked up and He served in World War II in the army. 0.99

01:15:50.000 He served in Korea in the army. 1.00

01:15:52.000 He had his friends fucking blown up in front of him. 1.00

01:15:57.000 Fucking... 1.00

01:15:57.000 He's seen shit we can't even imagine in two wars. 1.00

01:16:01.000 Korea. 1.00

01:16:02.000 You know what them motherfuckers went through over there with the cold and... 1.00

01:16:05.000 Fucking they couldn't even bury the bodies, bro. 1.00

01:16:07.000 They had to fucking stack them with... 1.00

01:16:10.000 Just insane. 1.00

01:16:11.000 And he came back and went onto the streets with PTSD. They didn't even know what the fuck PTSD was back then when he was going through it. 0.99

01:16:19.000 And some shit happened, which I did not... 0.98

01:16:23.000 He got double life, so obviously something really bad happened, and I don't know the circumstances, but he's 90 fucking years old right now, and he survived the riots in Folsom. 1.00

01:16:36.000 He survived insane fucking shit. 0.99

01:16:39.000 And I'm like, yo... 1.00

01:16:41.000 And he's out now?

01:16:41.000 He's out now.

01:16:42.000 There's a fucking picture of him. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Show me the picture. 1.00

01:16:45.000 What is it like when you're out after fucking 50 years in prison? 0.99

01:16:50.000 Dude, and he's the most humble... 1.00

01:16:53.000 Genuine fucking dude. 1.00

01:16:54.000 All of these guys. 1.00

01:16:57.000 We're training to do a 5k and Rich Roll is leading the run. 0.99

01:17:00.000 And I just got Nike to fucking give them all Air Pegasus new fucking sneakers. 1.00

01:17:07.000 These guys are in fucking tears, man. 1.00

01:17:10.000 Nobody gave a fuck. 1.00

01:17:11.000 When we first went in there and met these brothers, one of the biggest, toughest, scariest motherfuckers broke down in fucking tears. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Wow. 1.00

01:17:41.000 Wow, look at him there, man.

01:17:43.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:17:44.000 And he's trying to hit on all the female camera girls and shit. 1.00

01:17:48.000 Like, he's a fucking Papi Chulo, I nicknamed him. 1.00

01:17:50.000 Oh, I lost it. 1.00

01:17:51.000 Oh, you did?

01:17:52.000 Sorry.

01:17:52.000 It just disappeared on me.

01:17:54.000 Yeah, right here.

01:17:57.000 Wow. 0.98

01:17:57.000 Yeah, he served in both wars, honorably, PTSD, and I think, you know, he said people fucked with him on the streets. 0.98

01:18:07.000 So what is he doing with his life now?

01:18:10.000 He's in this program, so they get paroled to this program called Amity Foundation, and they serve out their sentence and try to reintegrate them.

01:18:20.000 So what I did was...

01:18:24.000 When I pitched it, and it's Kip who did what?

01:18:26.000 The Health and Cowspiracy and whatever.

01:18:28.000 And I hooked up with Paul DeGelder.

01:18:31.000 I don't know if you know him.

01:18:32.000 He's the Australian Navy SEAL guy.

01:18:34.000 He lost his arm and leg to the bull shark.

01:18:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:36.000 We were talking about him yesterday.

01:18:38.000 Dude, that motherfucker. 1.00

01:18:41.000 Dude, he's one of the baddest motherfucking most positive people you'll ever meet. 1.00

01:18:46.000 His fucking story is insane. 1.00

01:18:48.000 It's crazy seeing him walk around with that fake arm and fake hand. 1.00

01:18:51.000 He looks totally normal. 1.00

01:18:53.000 He gave me a fucking... 1.00

01:18:54.000 I was sitting in the chair and he came up and I heard the hand and I'm like, motherfucking, he almost ripped my fucking shoulder out. 1.00

01:19:01.000 The hand's strong? 1.00

01:19:02.000 Dude, it's fucking... 0.99

01:19:03.000 He's like, yeah, you know... 1.00

01:19:05.000 There he is.

01:19:06.000 Wow.

01:19:06.000 Because, you know, I had to be really careful because, you know, I used to take care of my business with the right hand and then, like, you know...

01:19:13.000 That's so crazy, man.

01:19:14.000 Yeah, dude.

01:19:15.000 A bull shark took his arm and leg and now he's on the Discovery Channel Shark Week and he fights for ocean conservation because if you kill the lead predator in the oceans and the culling that's going on...

01:19:27.000 So I contacted him and I go, Paul... 0.88

01:19:31.000 I'm gonna tell you right now the whole vegan shit is becoming this shit for rich fucking people and the people that really need it are the ones they can't afford $25 to go to a veg fest and all this shit it's becoming this pompous fucking shit and the food and you'd go to try to have a fucking meal and it's like fucking 50 bucks and just in fucking appetizers and the people that really need it are not getting access to this and I saw 13th the documentary About the 0.99

01:20:01.000 prison industrial complex in America. 1.00

01:20:03.000 Did you see that?

01:20:04.000 So you know what's going on.

01:20:06.000 Prison is basically slavery.

01:20:08.000 Slavery.

01:20:09.000 There's a loophole in the law that if you're incarcerated and do a crime, that you can be put to work and not get paid.

01:20:16.000 You get a dollar. 0.99

01:20:17.000 They're in there making Victoria's Secret fucking underwear and all this other shit. 1.00

01:20:21.000 It's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:20:22.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:20:22.000 So it really fucking lit a fire under my ass. 1.00

01:20:24.000 And I said, Paul, I said, a lot of these documentaries are like... 1.00

01:20:29.000 You know, I eat vegan and I got big muscles and fucking whatever the fuck. 1.00

01:20:33.000 I'm like, what about the motherfuckers that really need it? 1.00

01:20:36.000 What did I go through? 1.00

01:20:37.000 I've been through fucking hell as a kid. 0.99

01:20:39.000 I was on the streets of New York. 0.99

01:20:41.000 I was in the same place Mike Tyson was, Spofford in the Bronx. 0.99

01:20:45.000 Only white dude in the whole fucking place. 1.00

01:20:48.000 Fucking went upstate, did all this shit. 1.00

01:20:50.000 I'm like, what changed me, man? 1.00

01:20:52.000 It was this process. 0.99

01:20:54.000 I said, the people that need this shit, they're not getting access to it. 0.99

01:20:57.000 I said, let's come up with something and fucking help these people. 1.00

01:21:01.000 Let's go fucking help these dudes who are coming out of prison. 0.99

01:21:04.000 And then we contacted Kip. 0.98

01:21:06.000 He's like, I want to direct it.

01:21:08.000 Me and Paul wrote up the whole treatment.

01:21:11.000 And then they contacted...

01:21:13.000 We were going to try to put them in an air...

01:21:15.000 You know, these dudes in a house.

01:21:16.000 And then we found...

01:21:18.000 The producer found Elizabeth, who's the producer.

01:21:23.000 African-American chick. 1.00

01:21:24.000 These girls are fucking... 1.00

01:21:26.000 They're money, man. 1.00

01:21:27.000 They're fucking great. 0.99

01:21:28.000 Dawn. 0.99

01:21:29.000 And they found this place called Amity Foundation.

01:21:32.000 And they're like, they're already doing this.

01:21:34.000 They have them in here.

01:21:35.000 They're doing meditation, drum circles, American Indian chants.

01:21:39.000 So much like when you were young and your life was filled with turmoil and chaos, you found the Hare Krishnas, you found this discipline in becoming a monk and sticking to this plant-based whole foods diet.

01:21:52.000 But it became your ideology.

01:21:55.000 It became your life.

01:21:56.000 It became like a path.

01:21:57.000 And this is what a lot of people need.

01:21:59.000 They need a path.

01:22:00.000 It gives them a feeling of purpose.

01:22:03.000 It gives them an identity.

01:22:05.000 And made to feel like they matter. 1.00

01:22:08.000 Society has taught these motherfuckers that they don't matter. 1.00

01:22:12.000 And they even punish you after you do your time. 0.99

01:22:15.000 That's why they're trying to sign this legislature that's do away with the box. 1.00

01:22:21.000 I don't know if you heard about that in California.

01:22:23.000 You have to check off a box that you've been convicted of a crime.

01:22:27.000 So they're trying to do away with that because, yo, you did your time. 0.99

01:22:31.000 You served your fucking... 0.99

01:22:32.000 You served your time. 1.00

01:22:34.000 You served your debt to society. 1.00

01:22:36.000 Why should you continue to be fucking punished? 0.99

01:22:39.000 And they can't even get a job working anywhere because no one will fucking hire them. 0.99

01:22:45.000 So it's a whole... 0.97

01:22:46.000 So what we're doing is...

01:22:48.000 I have Dante Ross coming in.

01:22:51.000 He's been in the hip-hop game forever.

01:22:54.000 One of the dudes wants to be a rapper.

01:22:56.000 Another dude wants to play guitar.

01:22:58.000 I just hooked up with Yamaha. 0.97

01:23:00.000 They're gonna give him a guitar, amp, all this shit. 0.84

01:23:04.000 Tal Ronan, who owns Crossroads Restaurant, which I heard you talk about. 0.91

01:23:09.000 I listened to your podcast, Joe.

01:23:10.000 You were talking about...

01:23:13.000 That's Travis Parker's place, right?

01:23:14.000 Well, he's an investor, yeah.

01:23:16.000 But Tal Ronan is the chef...

01:23:18.000 That runs it in.

01:23:19.000 That place is supposed to be amazing. 0.99

01:23:20.000 Dude, fucking Tal said, tell him to come in. 1.00

01:23:24.000 Fucking have a fucking dinner. 1.00

01:23:25.000 They do fucking everything, man. 1.00

01:23:27.000 Crazy food. 1.00

01:23:28.000 He's Oprah's chef, dude.

01:23:30.000 And he cooked for the Dalai Lama.

01:23:32.000 Oprah's looking kind of thick.

01:23:34.000 Yeah.

01:23:34.000 I don't know what she's eating.

01:23:35.000 I know she ain't vegan.

01:23:38.000 Or plant-based or whatever.

01:23:40.000 She's eating plant-based some of the time.

01:23:41.000 Some of the time, Snickers bar, son.

01:23:43.000 Or who knows what.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, who knows.

01:23:45.000 Yeah, but it was about giving these guys facility to change their lives.

01:23:51.000 And that's what this documentary, Dirty Life, is.

01:23:54.000 Because they told me, go out on this tour for 30 days. 0.99

01:23:57.000 You're going to change your motherfucking life. 0.99

01:23:59.000 And that's what I did, and I stuck with it. 1.00

01:24:02.000 The training and everything that I do for Ironman, I'm on my fucking 11th Ironman. 0.53

01:24:10.000 I'm on the road constantly with the Cro-Mags, touring. 1.00

01:24:14.000 I'm in the gym every day. 0.99

01:24:16.000 I'm not trying to be a fucking 90-pound fucking Ironman dude. 0.99

01:24:20.000 I still hit the weights, hit the bags, do whatever. 0.99

01:24:23.000 I'm all about recovery now.

01:24:25.000 My friend Aaron Drogoszewski runs recovery in New York City, so I'm all about the CVAC pod and the NuCalm, which provides in 30 minutes you get three hours of restorative sleep.

01:24:39.000 His whole What is that?

01:24:41.000 How's that work? 0.98

01:24:42.000 Dude, it's fucking amazing, man. 0.96

01:24:43.000 I went up there. 1.00

01:24:44.000 I'm like his fucking guinea pig. 1.00

01:24:46.000 Like, all the shit that he's learning, massage school, fucking trigger point therapy, everything that he's been learning. 1.00

01:24:52.000 And he's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:24:53.000 He fought in the Golden Gloves. 1.00

01:24:55.000 He has black belts.

01:24:56.000 He's a hardcore dude.

01:24:57.000 All tatted up.

01:24:59.000 And, you know, I just been on this and I went into crunch because they were offering a special thing and he was he led the boxing and he taught kickboxing and worked with all the five points guys would all be in, you know, five points Muay Thai.

01:25:13.000 So, yeah, before that, they were all up in crunch, you know, training.

01:25:18.000 Then they opened up the school, but he was there.

01:25:20.000 And I said, yo, I want to do this Ironman.

01:25:22.000 He started training me from day one to do my first race.

01:25:27.000 I started with him in 2010. I did my first race, 2012, New York Ironman.

01:25:32.000 So then his whole journey, now they open up this place to recover.

01:25:36.000 It's right up the block from Henzo Gracie's on 30th Street.

01:25:40.000 So they have the CVAC pod, which takes you to elevation.

01:25:43.000 It increases your VO2 max by like 5.8%.

01:25:47.000 And I think doping, doing the EPO and everything, only gives you 3%.

01:25:51.000 And then he does the newcom. 1.00

01:25:54.000 So now, I tried to test the shit. 1.00

01:25:56.000 And I'm like, alright, newcom. 1.00

01:25:59.000 It fucking works with the wiring in your brain. 1.00

01:26:02.000 So you put blinders on and you sit there with these fucking headphones and he has electrodes. 1.00

01:26:08.000 He puts this gel. 0.99

01:26:10.000 By the way, I have his card and he said, you come to New York next time.

01:26:15.000 I want to try.

01:26:15.000 I want to set one up in here.

01:26:17.000 Yeah.

01:26:17.000 Dude, so the thing was, I tried to fight it and be like, no, I'm fucking not gonna pass, I'm not gonna go out.

01:26:24.000 And the vibrations that they designed, the sound vibration that's coming through these headphones, I'm just trying to fight passing out. 0.97

01:26:35.000 And I just fucking went out. 0.69

01:26:37.000 And then they woke me up and they're like, yo, how long do you think you were out? 0.99

01:26:41.000 I said 15 minutes.

01:26:42.000 They were like, you were out for an hour and 20. I'm like, what?

01:26:46.000 And it's just, it's fucking bizarre. 0.82

01:26:49.000 Like, they're learning so much about recovery. 0.68

01:26:51.000 And now all kinds of pro athletes are coming in to recover in New York.

01:26:56.000 The studio over there on 30th Street.

01:26:59.000 All Henzo's guys.

01:27:01.000 Henzo's nephew who just won...

01:27:04.000 What did he just...

01:27:05.000 What was that MMA tournament?

01:27:08.000 He just won something... 1.00

01:27:11.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:27:11.000 He had some fight and he won. 1.00

01:27:13.000 And a lot of those guys are coming in and a lot of pro athletes.

01:27:17.000 There's a lot of endurance athletes that are going in there.

01:27:20.000 So how does it work again?

01:27:22.000 There's electrodes that are on your neck.

01:27:23.000 So he puts like, do you have a TENS machine?

01:27:25.000 You know what they are? 0.99

01:27:26.000 Like the gluey fucking pads, right? 0.99

01:27:28.000 So it's these squares. 0.99

01:27:29.000 And then he puts this gel and he puts it behind you.

01:27:33.000 Conductive gel.

01:27:33.000 And he puts it behind your ear here.

01:27:36.000 And then the headphones and the blinders.

01:27:39.000 But it's sending a pulse into your body and the sound vibration.

01:27:43.000 Is it attached to a big machine? 1.00

01:27:44.000 It's a fucking little machine like this. 0.99

01:27:46.000 So it's something that we could have here. 0.99

01:27:48.000 Yeah, you can have it here. 0.97

01:27:49.000 I'm telling you, man, you will bug the fuck out. 0.90

01:27:51.000 That sounds crazy. 0.98

01:27:53.000 He's an expert in it. 1.00

01:27:54.000 The guy who manages the whole shit, he's an expert in the Newcom stuff. 1.00

01:27:58.000 Wow. 0.99

01:28:00.000 He's a big fan of yours, by the way, too.

01:28:02.000 Shout out.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, he's Aaron.

01:28:04.000 So this is it right here.

01:28:05.000 So when you put this on, is it on a timer?

01:28:09.000 Yeah, it's a timer.

01:28:10.000 How do you know when it's over?

01:28:11.000 Do you wake up when it's over?

01:28:13.000 No, they had to wake me up, man.

01:28:15.000 Those are the pads. 0.95

01:28:17.000 They woke me the fuck up.

01:28:18.000 I thought I was out for like 15 minutes.

01:28:20.000 Step two, microcurrent stimulation.

01:28:22.000 Step two for NuCalm is to use a subsensory microcurrent to catalyze the effectiveness of the NuCalm supplementation so you take pills with it, too.

01:28:32.000 No, I didn't take any pills.

01:28:34.000 The combination of the supplementation of the microcurrent works on the midbrain to interrupt the body's natural stress response.

01:28:42.000 Research shows this microcurrent helps balance the brain's neurochemistry by reestablishing optimal neurotransmitter levels.

01:28:49.000 You won't feel it while it's working. 0.99

01:28:50.000 That's fucking Swahili as far as I'm concerned. 0.99

01:28:52.000 That should help the way your brain works as well. 1.00

01:28:54.000 Yeah, it's insane, dude. 0.84

01:28:56.000 Wow.

01:28:57.000 And they're the only ones in New York that are doing the new calm. 0.99

01:29:01.000 They're the only ones in the East Coast that have a fucking CVAC pod. 0.99

01:29:06.000 Wow. 0.99

01:29:06.000 One of the universities out here... 0.99

01:29:08.000 They've got one in Orange County. 1.00

01:29:10.000 I know Ian McCall was using that shit for a while. 1.00

01:29:12.000 He said he got great benefit out of it. 1.00

01:29:14.000 Well, the woman who holds the world record time trial, I believe, she was doing CVAC, the pod. 0.99

01:29:21.000 It's fucking insane. 1.00

01:29:22.000 You go in this thing, and it's like, you have to work up, because you can't just go to level five, and your fucking shit will just bug the fuck out. 1.00

01:29:33.000 So I worked all the way up to level five. 0.99

01:29:36.000 How long did it take you to work up to it?

01:29:38.000 It took me a couple of weeks.

01:29:40.000 But what I really noticed was with my running, because I mark my thresholds and everything, so every run when I was training for the last race, I just did Chattanooga.

01:29:52.000 A half Ironman.

01:29:54.000 So every run I was doing, it's going in the CVAC and then going to do the Newcom and then I do the Norma Tech boots.

01:30:02.000 They have everything at this place, Recover.

01:30:05.000 So they're just using... 0.99

01:30:07.000 And then they have this other fucking magnetic blanket that fucking... 0.99

01:30:11.000 You sit on it. 0.99

01:30:13.000 And then there's an isolation pad on top, and it sends these frequencies through your body.

01:30:18.000 Oh, I've done that.

01:30:19.000 Wait a minute, what is that called? 0.98

01:30:20.000 I'm fucking, I'm spacing on it. 0.99

01:30:22.000 They have that at the cryo place that I go to. 0.99

01:30:24.000 Dude, it's, and they're getting, they got cryo coming now, and it just flushes, like, I've noticed that I can go fucking hard as hell.

01:30:33.000 I mean, I would have to bike 120 miles and do a brick and get off the bike and go run 13 miles. 0.95

01:30:40.000 And I'm like fucking breaking threshold fucking records because I started taking up any athlete who's serious about... 0.98

01:30:48.000 Even Henzo's... 0.99

01:30:50.000 I think it was his nephew or something that just had that fight.

01:30:54.000 The coach was like... 1.00

01:30:56.000 What the fuck are you doing? 0.99

01:30:58.000 And he's coming into the CVAC twice, three times a day. 1.00

01:31:01.000 And he's like, dude, his gas tank just doesn't run out. 0.96

01:31:06.000 He's fucking grappling, he's doing everything, and he's never fucking tired. 0.93

01:31:10.000 I've never seen him perform at this level. 0.98

01:31:13.000 So the success is there.

01:31:15.000 Even this woman, she broke the world record. 0.99

01:31:18.000 I think it was for TT, time trial, or track, or road, or something.

01:31:22.000 This woman cyclist did CVAC. And they accused her of fucking doping. 1.00

01:31:28.000 That's it, the Beamer. 1.00

01:31:29.000 Yeah.

01:31:29.000 Beamer physical, yeah.

01:31:30.000 So I've done that. 1.00

01:31:31.000 Dude, that shit's fucking... 1.00

01:31:32.000 It's legit. 1.00

01:31:32.000 Yeah, they have that there too. 1.00

01:31:34.000 It does something.

01:31:35.000 It does something.

01:31:36.000 Yeah.

01:31:36.000 Because I've been, you know, you're always getting hurt.

01:31:39.000 You know that too. 1.00

01:31:39.000 I'm always dealing with a fucking nagging fucking injury. 1.00

01:31:42.000 Yeah, you got something now? 1.00

01:31:43.000 I got a little groin issue, yeah.

01:31:45.000 Yeah.

01:31:46.000 So, you know, I've never had a race.

01:31:49.000 I've got my nose broken, Cabo Ironman. 0.99

01:31:52.000 I'm swimming out in shark-infested waters, fucking leaking. 0.99

01:31:55.000 But, like, even from boxing, I knew don't blow your nose because your eyes are going to swell shut. 0.99

01:32:00.000 So I had to do all mouth.

01:32:01.000 My first Ironman I ever did was New York City. 0.98

01:32:04.000 And Cromance, the drummer Mackie, booked a fucking show, This Is Hardcore, the night before. 0.99

01:32:11.000 So we played to like 3,000 motherfuckers going off. 1.00

01:32:15.000 You know that whole mosh and shit. 1.00

01:32:16.000 And we fucking lay it down. 1.00

01:32:19.000 And I fucking had my brother come down. 0.99

01:32:22.000 He drove me back to New York City. 0.99

01:32:23.000 I had a stress fracture in my foot.

01:32:25.000 I took a shower and I went to the swim start.

01:32:28.000 And I did an Ironman in August 12th. 0.95

01:32:32.000 2012 in fucking 95 degrees, New York City, humidity, but I was not gonna be... 0.96

01:32:38.000 I mean, it took me... 0.99

01:32:39.000 With a stress fracture in your foot? 1.00

01:32:40.000 Stress fracture in my fucking foot. 1.00

01:32:42.000 And the thing is, right where the cleat is, that's where it pressed. 0.99

01:32:46.000 That's where my stress fracture, the second metatarsal.

01:32:49.000 And it was just...

01:32:50.000 And I didn't take aspirin.

01:32:51.000 I didn't take nothing.

01:32:52.000 I'm just like...

01:32:54.000 How long did it take you to get over that? 1.00

01:32:54.000 I watch videos like David Goggins, fucking, like that fucking maniac. 1.00

01:32:58.000 I'm like, fuck my pain, you know? 1.00

01:33:01.000 It took me 13 hours. 1.00

01:33:04.000 How long did it take you to get over the stress factor after that beating?

01:33:07.000 It took months.

01:33:08.000 It took months, and that's why I started wearing hokas now. 0.99

01:33:12.000 I run with hoka. 0.92

01:33:13.000 What's a hoka? 1.00

01:33:13.000 Hoka, these shoes. 1.00

01:33:15.000 And there's...

01:33:17.000 Oh, they're big pads.

01:33:18.000 Yeah!

01:33:19.000 Giant.

01:33:19.000 That's like a two-inch pad.

01:33:21.000 What is the deal with that?

01:33:22.000 Well, your shoe goes down in there.

01:33:24.000 It's not actually...

01:33:25.000 But it's this scientifically designed foam that absorbs shock from the road.

01:33:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:32.000 So, a lot of the top...

01:33:35.000 Heather Jackson runs in them. 0.99

01:33:37.000 She just fucking has been winning like crazy. 1.00

01:33:39.000 She's just so fucking... 1.00

01:33:40.000 Better cushioning. 1.00

01:33:41.000 Better cushion.

01:33:42.000 And when you get... 0.98

01:33:43.000 You know, I'm 56, so it's like I'm not a fucking dude that's recovering... 0.97

01:33:47.000 So quick as I used to in my 20s or whatever. 0.99

01:33:50.000 Do you ever fuck with barefoot running shoes? 1.00

01:33:52.000 I can't, man. 1.00

01:33:53.000 There's no cushioning.

01:33:55.000 I just can't do it.

01:33:56.000 You do a lot of your stuff.

01:33:58.000 I run on cement.

01:34:00.000 Trail sometimes.

01:34:01.000 I live in New York City. 1.00

01:34:03.000 I might run the trail, the bridal trail in Central Park if I can, or run around the reservoir, but mostly my shit is all in the city and the hokers just fucking... 1.00

01:34:17.000 The next day... 1.00

01:34:18.000 People say to me... 0.99

01:34:19.000 Yo, you must be fucked up for a week after the race. 0.99

01:34:21.000 I was like... 0.99

01:34:22.000 I did Kona World Championships two years in a row.

01:34:25.000 And the first year I did it, 2016... 0.72

01:34:28.000 I fucking went snorkeling with my girl the next day for like three hours. 0.93

01:34:34.000 So like... 0.98

01:34:35.000 The inflammation's not there...

01:34:37.000 I'm getting really dialed in on the equipment aspect, getting fitted for the bike, getting the right shoes to run in.

01:34:45.000 It literally took me six years to get dialed in on even the nutrition aspect in doing them races. 0.99

01:34:55.000 You don't want to get a belly full of fucking gels and all this other shit. 0.99

01:34:59.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

01:35:00.000 Anyway, but the recovery aspect of what I do...

01:35:05.000 I just watched...

01:35:07.000 Goggins was on the Rich Roll podcast and he was talking about how much yoga and stretching that he's doing now. 0.99

01:35:14.000 Two, three, four hours of fucking... 0.99

01:35:17.000 And I know you're into yoga. 1.00

01:35:19.000 Love it. 0.97

01:35:19.000 Yeah, it's fucking great. 0.97

01:35:21.000 And that's what I need to start getting back into. 0.94

01:35:23.000 My girl Erica is always pushing me. 1.00

01:35:25.000 She's like, fucking bought me a kiosk thing for fucking integral yoga. 1.00

01:35:31.000 And I mean, she bought that shit for me last year. 1.00

01:35:33.000 I still... 1.00

01:35:34.000 You know, it's what you resist.

01:35:37.000 Like, if you read...

01:35:40.000 Have you read The War of Art by Steven?

01:35:42.000 Sure.

01:35:42.000 I've had him on.

01:35:43.000 Fucking love it. 0.98

01:35:45.000 You're having him on? 0.99

01:35:46.000 I had him on before. 0.99

01:35:47.000 I fucking love him. 0.97

01:35:47.000 I bought a stack of his books. 0.97

01:35:49.000 I used to give them out to my guests.

01:35:50.000 Just take this book.

01:35:51.000 You got any problems?

01:35:52.000 Things that are keeping you from being creative?

01:35:54.000 The War of Art.

01:35:54.000 Do the work.

01:35:55.000 Yeah.

01:35:55.000 But he talks about resistance and the main thing about resistance is usually we're the most resistant to things we need the most.

01:36:02.000 Yes. 0.99

01:36:03.000 And it's this deep shit. 1.00

01:36:06.000 Every morning I sit down to write my screenplay or my next book, I read his shit. 1.00

01:36:13.000 And the Four Agreements I'm big into too. 0.99

01:36:17.000 I went to actually, somebody got me tickets to see Miguel speak, Don Miguel, and it was a life-changing encounter for me, the Four Agreements.

01:36:27.000 Don't take things personal.

01:36:28.000 Always do your best.

01:36:29.000 Be impeccable with your word.

01:36:31.000 And don't make assumptions, which I always... 0.99

01:36:34.000 I've created wars in my fucking mind. 0.99

01:36:36.000 Sure. 0.99

01:36:37.000 And then they're like, dude, I wasn't even thinking that. 1.00

01:36:39.000 What the fuck is your problem? 0.99

01:36:40.000 That's classic. 1.00

01:36:41.000 It's fucking, dude. 1.00

01:36:42.000 The assumption shit is fucking crazy, man. 1.00

01:36:45.000 And I think if everybody just slowed down and read some literature on some of these teachers that, you know, humanity could do so much better... 1.00

01:36:56.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:36:57.000 Pressfield's great, man.

01:36:58.000 And what he does say about resistance is so powerful because there is something that keeps you from doing things that you know you're supposed to do.

01:37:06.000 And when you do them, you feel so much better.

01:37:08.000 It's like, why didn't I just do it?

01:37:09.000 What was all this procrastination and bullshit that was involved in me putting this off?

01:37:15.000 And then when you finally do it, every time I walk out of a yoga class, I'm like, I gotta do that again tomorrow. 0.97

01:37:20.000 I gotta keep this ball rolling.

01:37:21.000 This is a part of my life.

01:37:22.000 I gotta get...

01:37:24.000 Especially for a guy like you, because everything is tight.

01:37:28.000 Racing and running and everything. 0.99

01:37:29.000 And then when you're on stage, everything is fucking crush, crush, crush, crush, kill, destroy. 0.99

01:37:35.000 Yeah, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:37:35.000 It's like the thing about yoga is it's static. 0.99

01:37:38.000 These poses and stretches and your core gets activated and everything gets lengthened.

01:37:44.000 It's just a smart way to maintain your body in a healthy way.

01:37:47.000 Well, you know what it is?

01:37:47.000 I try to justify it by going, well, I do yoga at the gym because I'll do my trigger point and then...

01:37:54.000 I do all my trigger point, myofascial release, all that, and then the last 15 minutes, my girl's like, that shit don't count. 0.97

01:38:00.000 It's something. 0.99

01:38:00.000 It's better than nothing. 0.99

01:38:01.000 You need to go.

01:38:02.000 No, but I remember how I used to feel when I would come out of those yoga classes in 81. I would feel like I could jump over a fucking building. 0.99

01:38:10.000 And I need to get back to that. 0.99

01:38:12.000 But even in the resistance aspect, you know, what...

01:38:17.000 Not doing what you're resistant. 0.98

01:38:18.000 And it could be something like, oh, I made an agreement with myself to fucking straighten out the papers on my desk and go through all this shit. 0.98

01:38:25.000 And if I don't do it, it puts me in the worst fucking mood. 0.99

01:38:28.000 Sure. 0.98

01:38:29.000 Because that's what resistance...

01:38:30.000 Yeah.

01:38:30.000 When you cave in and you give in to resistance, man, it's like...

01:38:35.000 And it could be the smallest little thing, like, you know, anything.

01:38:40.000 Yeah.

01:38:41.000 And it just irks the fuck out of you. 0.84

01:38:43.000 I'm like, yo.

01:38:44.000 So I try to...

01:38:46.000 That's a good philosophy to live by and, you know, to have something that's been fucking with you, some things you're putting off, whether it's getting back into yoga or cleaning up your diet or quitting smoking or whatever it is.

01:38:57.000 Having that thing over your head where you know you haven't taken care of it makes you think less of yourself.

01:39:02.000 Absolutely.

01:39:02.000 It makes you respect yourself less.

01:39:03.000 Yeah, and that's one of the things I tell everybody I work with, because, I mean, literally today, and I'm not bullshitting, I don't try to be like, you know, I don't even say I'm some kind of teacher, whatever. 0.99

01:39:16.000 I just pass the info to these motherfuckers. 0.99

01:39:18.000 Today, I had fucking four people come up to me on the street. 1.00

01:39:21.000 Yo, heard you on Rich Roll, fucking saw you on Vice, dude, love what you're doing. 0.99

01:39:26.000 Man, you fucking helped me. 0.98

01:39:27.000 I got into triathlon now. 1.00

01:39:29.000 I quit fucking drugs. 1.00

01:39:30.000 This guy told me that today. 1.00

01:39:32.000 And he's like, yo, I quit drugs. 0.99

01:39:33.000 I fucking stopped drinking. 0.99

01:39:35.000 That's what it's all about. 0.99

01:39:36.000 That is what it's all about. 1.00

01:39:37.000 Now, am I going to give a fuck and be like zoned in on something and find fault with what the fuck he's doing? 0.99

01:39:43.000 I was like, yo, man, props to you, dude. 1.00

01:39:46.000 Fucking... 0.95

01:39:46.000 You know, you could do anything, you know, you apply yourself to and that's really, you know, my whole thing in life is to just, you know, and that's what Prabhupada did. 0.95

01:39:56.000 Prabhupada came to America in his 70s aboard the Jaladutra, crossed two oceans, had two heart attacks, almost passed away.

01:40:04.000 But his teacher in India said to go to America At 70 years old, with $7,000 in case of Bhagavatams, and he came to America, to the Lower East Side, to the Bowery.

01:40:16.000 What's a Bhagavatam?

01:40:17.000 The Bhagavatam, Srimad Bhagavatam is what's known as the Spotless Piranha.

01:40:21.000 It's, uh, the Bhagavatam, Srimad Bhagavatam is an ancient literature in India.

01:40:26.000 It's called, it's part of the Puranas.

01:40:28.000 It's called the Spotless Puranas.

01:40:29.000 So you brought a case of the book?

01:40:30.000 Ten cantos.

01:40:31.000 He didn't even have, he brought the original texts that have been passed down from one teacher to the next to the next to the next in India.

01:40:39.000 And they said, his teacher Bhakti Siddhanta said, you need to write these books in English for the world, to help the world.

01:40:47.000 So he didn't, all the people in India were like, Swamiji, you know, you are at the end of your life.

01:40:53.000 Why are you going to go to America?

01:40:54.000 It's a very dangerous place. 1.00

01:40:55.000 Not only did he go to America, he went to fucking New York. 0.99

01:40:58.000 To the Bowery, they robbed him. 0.99

01:41:00.000 He slept on the floor.

01:41:01.000 He fed people.

01:41:03.000 He cooked...

01:41:03.000 Allen Ginsberg got him his first storefront over there, called Matchless Gifts.

01:41:09.000 And they saw the humility of this person, Prabhupada, and what he did for people, how he had so much love.

01:41:15.000 He would cook the meals, serve everybody, clean up before he would even eat a grain of rice.

01:41:20.000 He had no possessions.

01:41:22.000 None.

01:41:22.000 He slept on the floor, on a mat.

01:41:25.000 And they saw the humility of him and he just...

01:41:28.000 And when I learned his story, there's a great documentary on him called Your Ever Well-Wisher on YouTube.

01:41:34.000 And it's about his life and how he came...

01:41:36.000 And, you know, Acharya means one who leads by example. 1.00

01:41:41.000 It's not what and I've learned this just by these big mouths that are out there that talk so much shit It ain't what the fuck you say. 0.99

01:41:47.000 It's what you do It's about your action and your words and how you interact with other people and how you see other people even these fucking so-called celebrities It's when the cameras ain't on how do you treat people, right? 1.00

01:42:00.000 You know what the fuck is the real core of your existence? 0.98

01:42:03.000 What are you here to do? 0.98

01:42:05.000 When I saw Prabhupada and read all this stuff on him and then started taking up the process, it just changed my life for the better.

01:42:21.000 Well, by you saying that, it's very enticing for people, right?

01:42:25.000 Like, they go, I want to do what he's doing.

01:42:26.000 I want to feel better like he's feeling better.

01:42:29.000 That's what's amazing about having someone who's a great role model.

01:42:35.000 Meaning, you might not even think of yourself as a role model, but...

01:42:38.000 By living your life by example, by doing things that you should do, by being healthy, by being active and enthusiastic.

01:42:44.000 But you've got passion about what you're doing, about your music, about pushing yourself, about your books, about the exercise.

01:42:52.000 And when you do that, People that don't have purpose in their life, they see that and they go, that's what I'm missing.

01:42:57.000 I'm missing, because we're missing so many things in this life.

01:42:59.000 But one of the things that people are missing is role models.

01:43:02.000 They're missing someone who they can look up to and go, oh, this is the way to do it.

01:43:06.000 And when you emulate their lifestyle and start thinking the way they think and using their lessons and applying them to your own life, you start seeing benefits.

01:43:14.000 And then that passes down to other people who see you.

01:43:19.000 It's like a candle.

01:43:20.000 One candle could light a hundred.

01:43:22.000 HR was that for me. 0.99

01:43:24.000 HR could have been telling me to worship fucking Cheetos and I would have done it. 1.00

01:43:28.000 Thankfully, he was into the right shit. 1.00

01:43:30.000 But I would see him go on stage and I would see his humility. 0.99

01:43:35.000 He would always say Ja is the ability of anything that I have.

01:43:40.000 He would always give praises to the Most High to Ja Rastafari. 0.99

01:43:44.000 Humble as fucking hell. 0.98

01:43:46.000 And the best musicians to ever... 1.00

01:43:48.000 Those four motherfuckers... 1.00

01:43:50.000 Are praised by every single fucking musician today. 1.00

01:43:53.000 If you talk Doc, Daryl, Earl, and Gary, Dr. No, every motherfucking musician out there will be like, those dudes are the fucking Dons, because they study music. 0.99

01:44:03.000 They were into jazz, and they were into fucking Return to Forever, and John McLaughlin, Mahavishnu. 0.99

01:44:09.000 Doc in 81 was like... 0.98

01:44:12.000 They call me squids because they met me in the Navy.

01:44:14.000 Yo squids, I want to take you to the Palladium, return to forever. 1.00

01:44:17.000 Why they call you squids?

01:44:18.000 Because they met me in the Navy.

01:44:20.000 Oh.

01:44:20.000 So squids, like a squid.

01:44:22.000 Yo squids!

01:44:23.000 That's hilarious.

01:44:25.000 Yeah, and then they call me Johnny Joe. 0.96

01:44:28.000 So that's where the John Joseph, I didn't use my last name because I was fucking a fugitive for 15 years. 0.95

01:44:33.000 Oh, that's funny. 0.93

01:44:34.000 Yeah, so...

01:44:35.000 Wow.

01:44:36.000 The thing was, he's, you know, Return to Forever is Al Demiola, Lenny White, Stanley Clark, and...

01:44:43.000 I'm missing...

01:44:44.000 Chikoria. 0.89

01:44:45.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:44:45.000 Fucking... 1.00

01:44:46.000 Do you ever listen to this shit? 1.00

01:44:47.000 Stanley Clark, yeah. 1.00

01:44:48.000 Dude, you want to go down a motherfucking... 0.99

01:44:49.000 No, listen to Return to Forever, romantic word. 1.00

01:44:52.000 You want to go down a rabbit hole with how fucking amazing... 0.99

01:44:56.000 These fucking musicians are, or Weather Report, or any of these, you know, Maha Vishnu, Birds of Fire. 1.00

01:45:03.000 Like, they started turning to me, and he would say, squids, this is how we learn to play what the fuck we play. 1.00

01:45:09.000 And nobody could touch the bad brains musically, energy on stage, nothing. 1.00

01:45:13.000 And I would see these dudes, I'd be like, what the fuck are you into? 0.99

01:45:17.000 And then the role models, like you said, we need good role models. 1.00

01:45:24.000 There's so many fucked up people that these kids want to emulate today. 0.98

01:45:29.000 And I see it because I came up in New York. 0.99

01:45:31.000 I worked in all the underground hip-hop clubs.

01:45:34.000 I worked for the Pope of Pot. 0.76

01:45:36.000 I used to deliver pot to all the rap stars.

01:45:39.000 I delivered pot.

01:45:41.000 My friend, this dude, Matt, worked for TriStar.

01:45:44.000 He was like, yo, meet me at the Boston Comedy Club. 0.99

01:45:46.000 There's this black comedian there, and he's going to be fucking huge. 0.99

01:45:50.000 And I would show up on my bike, and you know who the fuck it was? 1.00

01:45:54.000 Dave Chappelle. 1.00

01:45:55.000 Dave fucking Chappelle. 1.00

01:45:56.000 Dave fucking Chappelle. 0.99

01:45:57.000 And when he did Half-Baked, did you notice that he put the weed delivery guy in all bike gear? 0.99

01:46:03.000 Where the fuck you think he got that from? 0.96

01:46:05.000 I used to show up. 0.99

01:46:06.000 I never carried a bag.

01:46:07.000 I showed up with a $4,000 carbon fiber frame and I had a black water bottle and all the weed bags was in the two water bottles so it just looked like I was a cyclist out on a ride.

01:46:21.000 Oh, wow.

01:46:22.000 And Dave Chappelle.

01:46:23.000 Yeah.

01:46:24.000 And then Dave Chappelle.

01:46:26.000 He blew up so fast.

01:46:28.000 Matt Hine was the guy's name.

01:46:30.000 He was the publicist at TriStar Pictures.

01:46:32.000 And then I delivered to him at the Boston Comedy Club. 0.98

01:46:35.000 And within months, he was living in some palatial fucking spot on 2nd Avenue and 15th in the... 0.99

01:46:42.000 And I'm like, yo, how the fuck did you get from there to here? 0.99

01:46:47.000 Thankfully, the dudes showed me the right path in life and I've been trying to stick with it and pay it forward. 0.94

01:46:58.000 That's my whole thing is paying it forward.

01:47:00.000 Paying the knowledge forward. 0.97

01:47:02.000 You go out of my way to fucking help people. 0.99

01:47:04.000 I feed the homeless in New York. 0.99

01:47:06.000 I sponsor a soup kitchen.

01:47:08.000 I've done benefits.

01:47:09.000 That have been on MTV. Because, you know, I grew up being starved, man, in a foster home.

01:47:15.000 Like, this bitch fed us. 1.00

01:47:17.000 She would take Oreos, and she didn't like the filling. 1.00

01:47:20.000 So she would scrape off the filling and spit it in a bowl and put it on green molded bread. 0.54

01:47:25.000 That was our meal for the day.

01:47:27.000 So we had to learn to scam as kids.

01:47:29.000 They fed us rotten food.

01:47:31.000 We were never allowed in the house. 0.99

01:47:32.000 They beat the shit out of us. 0.99

01:47:34.000 They were so cheap, they made us clean their carpets with toilet bowl brushes. 1.00

01:47:38.000 New toilet bowl brushes because they didn't want to run the electricity. 1.00

01:47:41.000 All seven kids had to take a bath in the same fucking bathtub water. 1.00

01:47:47.000 One after the other. 1.00

01:47:48.000 So how did we get around that? 1.00

01:47:50.000 We went to the fucking gas station and we would fucking bathe, do bucket showers. 0.99

01:47:55.000 Everything was about survival. 1.00

01:47:57.000 It was all survival, survival.

01:47:59.000 Even on the streets, I was a heroin mule.

01:48:02.000 That's how I survived.

01:48:03.000 I left St. John's.

01:48:05.000 That's how I got into punk rock, you know, the Ramones.

01:48:08.000 Rock, rock, rock, rock, away, beach.

01:48:10.000 St. John's Home for Boys, Rockaway Beach, 1976. I'm like, yo, I'm weird.

01:48:15.000 And I started getting into Iggy Pop and all that.

01:48:18.000 And then I'm seeing the Ramones hanging out at 116th Street at The Circle.

01:48:24.000 And when I split from the boys' home, I moved in with these junkies in this bungalow.

01:48:30.000 And they're like, yo, go down to Alphabet City.

01:48:32.000 You're going to carry all the heroin back for us.

01:48:35.000 So that was my gig. 0.99

01:48:37.000 And then he set the guy up and robbed him and all this crazy shit. 1.00

01:48:41.000 Then I was making fake acid and going to the garden and just a fucking street urchin. 1.00

01:48:47.000 And then I got into the angel dust, selling it in Forest Park at the Dome. 0.98

01:48:52.000 Frank Grillo's father knew who I... You know Frank Grillo, the actor?

01:48:55.000 Yeah, he's friends with Callan.

01:48:56.000 Yeah, very good friends.

01:48:59.000 He's another great human being, man.

01:49:01.000 Frank, I know from Crunch.

01:49:03.000 I met him at Crunch, actually.

01:49:05.000 There was a lot of cool people.

01:49:07.000 And his father, he goes, yo, I just read this guy's book.

01:49:11.000 Like, you hung out.

01:49:12.000 His father was, like, supposedly homeless.

01:49:14.000 You remember this kid that used to hang out with Disco and all these, and Bobby Bird and all these guys? 0.97

01:49:19.000 And so, he's like, yo, where the fuck did you hear those names? 0.72

01:49:22.000 Like, it's this guy John, you know, John Joseph. 0.99

01:49:25.000 He was a fucking kid back then. 0.99

01:49:28.000 And, you know, was on the streets over there fucking selling dust at the dome. 1.00

01:49:34.000 And so just, you know, all that crazy... 0.98

01:49:37.000 Like, I've been around all those negative people and tried to, like...

01:49:41.000 You know, I had people...

01:49:42.000 This one guy, Junior Nuts and Dougie Holston, they both got murdered. 1.00

01:49:46.000 But they would be like, take that pipe and go smash that guy in the fucking face with it. 1.00

01:49:49.000 And I would do it. 1.00

01:49:50.000 Because I was 14 years old. 1.00

01:49:52.000 I'm on the fucking streets. 0.99

01:49:54.000 And, you know, you try to impress... 1.00

01:49:57.000 Crazy motherfuckers by being crazy. 1.00

01:50:00.000 And I did a lot of fucked up stupid shit in my life that I'm still trying to write the karmic scales for. 1.00

01:50:10.000 So my work will never be done until the last breath I take in this lifetime. 1.00

01:50:15.000 I'm trying to help people.

01:50:18.000 And, you know, by whatever methods I can, you know.

01:50:23.000 Well, that's a beautiful path, man.

01:50:25.000 I mean, you've turned a terrible situation and terrible circumstances into a way that you've created now where you're inspiring people all the time.

01:50:35.000 That's very positive.

01:50:36.000 I mean, just the impact that you have.

01:50:39.000 I think one of the things that we were talking about earlier about all the negativity that people have online, I think part of the problem with that is I don't think people totally understand communication.

01:50:49.000 I think what we're handed is these tools to distribute our thoughts and our information, and we're trying to get rudimentary reactions.

01:50:57.000 And we're not understanding that these reactions don't just stop with the person that we're interacting with.

01:51:04.000 They affect ourselves, because they affect how we feel about ourselves. 0.98

01:51:07.000 If you write some petty shit about someone, you don't really respect yourself. 0.99

01:51:12.000 If you write some nasty, snarky, petty shit about someone, And you're insulting for no reason. 1.00

01:51:18.000 You know you're insulting for no reason and you feel it yourself. 0.99

01:51:21.000 You don't have great self-respect for yourself for that.

01:51:24.000 And then on top of that, that person that you hurt their feelings, they might perhaps interact with other people negatively because of that as well.

01:51:31.000 It's a chain reaction.

01:51:33.000 Become the first to attack next because they've been attacked before, too.

01:51:38.000 So they start acting that way.

01:51:40.000 What it is is a lack of understanding that a lot of us have, all of us.

01:51:43.000 I've been guilty of it, too, of the impact that our communication has.

01:51:48.000 Absolutely.

01:51:48.000 Because we're not thinking about it in a comprehensive, wide-scale look.

01:51:53.000 We're thinking about it in terms of, that is annoying to me, so I'm going to fuck that guy's world up by saying shitty things about him and his fat, stupid face and whatever you want to say about him and insult them. 1.00

01:52:03.000 I'm gonna tell you what a lot of the problem is, too, and I see it all the time. 0.99

01:52:08.000 We're losing the art of even having a conversation between human beings because this is what everybody does. 1.00

01:52:16.000 When you see them going down the motherfucking street, and yo, New York is still motherfucking dangerous, and now all these motherfucking texting zombies that come out of the club and they're fucking... 1.00

01:52:27.000 They're walking into traffic. 1.00

01:52:28.000 They're getting fucking robbed. 1.00

01:52:29.000 They're getting run over. 1.00

01:52:30.000 They're getting fucking crazy. 1.00

01:52:32.000 But the thing is, this... 0.99

01:52:35.000 Right?

01:52:35.000 Now, we have a law.

01:52:36.000 I go out with my friend Jake from Rocks Off in New York City.

01:52:40.000 He does all the Rocks Off tours and does all this stuff.

01:52:43.000 He has a rule. 0.99

01:52:44.000 When he goes out to dinner, everyone has to hand their motherfuckers' cell phone in to the fucking maitre d' and no cell phones. 0.99

01:52:52.000 So that you sit there and talk with each other. 0.99

01:52:55.000 The conversation...

01:52:58.000 I saw this whole special, and it was on CNN, and it was Anderson Cooper, and it was the guy that was teaching mindfulness.

01:53:08.000 I forget.

01:53:09.000 He's been teaching meditation.

01:53:10.000 I wrote about him in my book.

01:53:12.000 So the whole rule was they had to be mindful the entire time that they were at this thing.

01:53:17.000 They had no cell phone, no TV, no nothing.

01:53:20.000 And they had to be mindful when they ate, mindful when they took a shower, mindful when they walked down the street, remaining mindful during conversations, respecting other people. 0.96

01:53:30.000 And, like, it was the CEO of fucking Google and all these big companies were there.

01:53:38.000 And what they learned at this retreat for the 10 days or whatever that they were there a week, it was so powerful that they took that and implemented that in their companies. 1.00

01:53:49.000 And now Google, they make everybody sit down in a fucking auditorium before they start their day up there in Silicon Valley or wherever the fuck they are. 0.99

01:53:59.000 And they have to just sit there for 10 minutes and be mindful. 1.00

01:54:03.000 And meditate and be mindful. 0.98

01:54:05.000 And that's something that's becoming a lost part of humanity because the internet and all of this shit, it's like people are losing touch with themselves and with each other. 0.95

01:54:19.000 You don't validate me. 0.99

01:54:21.000 You know what I do when them people, when they even knew I was coming on here and they was talking shit? 0.99

01:54:26.000 I fucking deleted them. 1.00

01:54:28.000 I didn't even read their motherfucking comments. 1.00

01:54:30.000 Once I saw a few toxic words, I'm like, fuck you. 1.00

01:54:34.000 Delete, block, see you fucking later. 1.00

01:54:36.000 To me, it's out of sight, out of mind. 0.99

01:54:38.000 I just don't have time...

01:54:40.000 For people capable of that.

01:54:42.000 Yeah, because, you know, I still have the tendency to do the four disagreements.

01:54:49.000 I do take things personal.

01:54:51.000 I will make assumptions.

01:54:52.000 I'm a work in progress.

01:54:54.000 I'm not healed.

01:54:55.000 Just like I say, I'm always going to be an addict.

01:54:58.000 There's always that possibility... 0.99

01:55:00.000 That I'm going to fucking... 0.99

01:55:01.000 I have to have my coat of armor, which I say my sword of fucking PMA and my coat of armor, which is everything I do every day, but I'm not beyond the shit I'm trying to... 0.99

01:55:13.000 So, you know, why the fuck do I want to go hang out with... 0.99

01:55:18.000 Very negative people. 0.99

01:55:20.000 Or if somebody starts talking shit about somebody else, you know what I say to them now? 0.99

01:55:24.000 Yo, my man, did you tell so-and-so that? 1.00

01:55:27.000 Why the fuck you telling me? 1.00

01:55:28.000 I don't want to hear it. 0.99

01:55:30.000 And I forget which philosopher said it, but he goes...

01:55:35.000 The only true examination of...

01:55:39.000 Like, when we find fault in others, it's really what we're seeing in ourselves. 0.99

01:55:44.000 We're pointing out the bad shit in ourselves. 1.00

01:55:47.000 For sure. 0.99

01:55:47.000 We're constantly fault-finding, you know, with other people. 0.99

01:55:51.000 Yeah.

01:55:51.000 And it comes back to that fly mentality, man.

01:55:54.000 I just...

01:55:56.000 And try to set the good example.

01:55:59.000 And that's another thing Prabhupada said.

01:56:01.000 Example is better than precept. 0.99

01:56:02.000 And right now, you just have a motherfucking bunch of people talking shit instead of trying to be the example and try to live it and do it. 0.99

01:56:11.000 There are a ton of people out there that's crushing it. 1.00

01:56:14.000 And staying positive and doing, you know, getting off drugs, getting off alcohol. 0.98

01:56:19.000 Like, even the people in this program, man, you don't even know the shit that these guys have been through. 0.99

01:56:24.000 It's fucking insane. 1.00

01:56:25.000 Can you imagine spending 20 years in a fucking jail cell or going to Pelican Bay or going to Pelican Bay and being in the shoe? 1.00

01:56:35.000 Like, what the fuck that does to human beings? 1.00

01:56:38.000 Like, the strength that that takes. 0.97

01:56:41.000 And I'm gonna tell you, and the other reason I got involved is because my uncle, back in the day, worked at Chino Prison.

01:56:49.000 In the 70s and 80s, he was like the assistant warden or something in Chino.

01:56:54.000 Now, Chino, if you know the prison system, what they call that here in California is gladiator school.

01:56:59.000 But there's a documentary about this guy, and he's a former Navy SEAL, and he went in there.

01:57:05.000 And the documentary is called Salvaged Lives.

01:57:07.000 And he went in there and taught these guys. 0.98

01:57:10.000 He put them through like a little bud's ding, squirted them with holes, trained them fucking hard as hell, taught them every aspect of commercial diving. 0.97

01:57:18.000 And when they got released, he got them jobs on oil rigs and all this stuff, making six figures. 0.99

01:57:24.000 And the guys who were working for these oil companies, they said, these are the most skilled fucking people that we've ever had come to work for these companies.

01:57:34.000 So between trying to set a good example and seeing the people before me that's done it and wanting to reach out and help people and seeing, and my uncle telling me about this guy and then seeing the documentary when it came on, I was just like, I gotta try to do something to turn the tide and having a platform like Netflix or whoever's gonna pick up this documentary,

01:57:55.000 it's like... 0.99

01:57:57.000 You know, it could show people, listen, stop incarcerating motherfuckers. 0.99

01:58:02.000 It's about education, not incarceration. 1.00

01:58:04.000 These are not animals.

01:58:06.000 These are human beings.

01:58:07.000 Yeah, it's a broken system.

01:58:08.000 It is.

01:58:09.000 For sure.

01:58:09.000 It's not helping anybody.

01:58:10.000 It's just making people harder criminals and it's just punishing them by keeping them locked in a cage and they never get any better.

01:58:17.000 The idea is that you're removing the dangerous elements of society and protecting the rest of us.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:58:23.000 But this idea of rehabilitation, it's non-existent.

01:58:27.000 Now they even removed the exercise equipment in the prison.

01:58:31.000 Yeah, because they think they're going to be more dangerous, right?

01:58:34.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 You know, it's basically like...

01:58:39.000 We're warehousing bodies, man, and they violate them. 0.99

01:58:41.000 One dude got violated for smoking a cigarette in the facility, and they sent him back to serve the rest of his fucking sentence. 0.99

01:58:48.000 It's crazy, especially out here in California. 0.99

01:58:52.000 California and Texas and Florida, man, it's fucking crazy stuff. 0.98

01:58:58.000 And look, I look back to the whole situation that went down in the 80s, because I really try to do research, and the whole thing that went down, you had Nancy fucking Reagan saying, just say no. 0.97

01:59:11.000 And you know what George Bush Sr. was doing to fund all his operations in South America? 0.68

01:59:16.000 You know about that?

01:59:17.000 Selling crack. 1.00

01:59:18.000 Fucking selling motherfucking crack. 1.00

01:59:20.000 The vice president was bringing the cocaine, landing it. 1.00

01:59:23.000 I've had Freeway Ricky on. 1.00

01:59:24.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:59:25.000 Landing the planes in Arkansas. 0.99

01:59:27.000 Right?

01:59:28.000 Governor Clinton.

01:59:30.000 And transporting the cocaine and then...

01:59:33.000 Did you see the Tom Cruise movie? 1.00

01:59:34.000 Fuck yeah, I saw it. 1.00

01:59:35.000 I loved it. 1.00

01:59:36.000 What is it called?

01:59:36.000 Made in America?

01:59:37.000 Made in America.

01:59:38.000 Made in America? 0.77

01:59:38.000 Yeah. 0.77

01:59:39.000 And the thing was, and then they passed these draconian fucking drug laws. 0.99

01:59:45.000 Like, I think you could get caught... 0.99

01:59:47.000 I forget what the exact amount of grams were of minute portion of crack cocaine.

01:59:53.000 Right. 0.99

01:59:53.000 And there was dudes getting busted with quarter pounds of fucking coke, but that's the white man's, and they would get fucking a slap on the wrist. 0.99

02:00:01.000 These dudes would go away for 10 years. 0.99

02:00:03.000 So they put the coke in the neighborhoods, they funded all their operations in South America, And then they passed draconian drug laws, and this was the Clintons.

02:00:13.000 Hello, Hillary. 1.00

02:00:13.000 I was also friends with Michael Rupert. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Michael Rupert was the guy who exposed all that.

02:00:17.000 Do you remember they had those town hall meetings with the DEA and the CIA? And Michael Rupert, he was a homicide detective for the Los Angeles Police Department.

02:00:26.000 You know what?

02:00:27.000 I did, I did, I think, I forget.

02:00:31.000 Wasn't he on homicide?

02:00:32.000 He was homicide, right?

02:00:33.000 And he went in front of this big meeting on CNN, and he explained it to everyone.

02:00:41.000 Was it C-SPAN or CNN? I don't remember, but it was on television.

02:00:44.000 And he explained that he busted the CIA selling drugs in the inner city, and that he has documents that can prove there's a detailed history of them selling drugs, then using those profits overseas. 0.98

02:00:56.000 There was a documentary about it that came out and it was these big, the fucking big drug dudes in LA said, yeah, these guys would just show up with fucking van loads of fucking coke.

02:01:10.000 Did you ever see that video of him talking in front of those people? 0.99

02:01:12.000 See if you find that video, because it's a fucking crazy eye-opening video. 0.97

02:01:16.000 But they're having this town hall meeting. 0.97

02:01:19.000 Here it is right here. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Oh, yeah, I saw this. 1.00

02:01:21.000 He has helped drugs throughout this country for a long time. 1.00

02:01:25.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

02:01:27.000 Hell yeah! 1.00

02:01:28.000 People were like, what?

02:01:29.000 C-SPAN. They were like, what?

02:01:31.000 The brothers is, yeah, yeah!

02:01:32.000 People went crazy.

02:01:36.000 Allegations of CIA involvement in drug trafficking. 1.00

02:01:39.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:01:39.000 They, they, they... 1.00

02:01:40.000 All right.

02:01:42.000 All right, obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you.

02:01:45.000 Now, can you please?

02:01:46.000 I refer...

02:01:47.000 All right, now, can you please?

02:01:49.000 I refer direct...

02:01:50.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:01:53.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

02:01:59.000 People just yelling shit out. 1.00

02:02:00.000 They're like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:02:01.000 The CIA's selling drugs? 1.00

02:02:03.000 And a cop just told everybody that?

02:02:06.000 Do you know that they declassified those papers? 1.00

02:02:09.000 You can read all of those papers now online that they fucking did that shit. 0.99

02:02:14.000 Freedom of Information Acts. 1.00

02:02:15.000 And then they invested in the fucking prisons. 0.99

02:02:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:18.000 So they're making money. 1.00

02:02:19.000 Well, that's the crazy thing is privatized prisons.

02:02:21.000 Oh, it's insane.

02:02:23.000 That is the most evil thing, that you can make money, and therefore you're incentivized to make drug laws more strict so you can get more people in prison so you generate more income.

02:02:32.000 Thirteenth, man. 0.96

02:02:33.000 If you ain't seen that fucking documentary, it's why when I saw that I knew what my calling was to do. 0.97

02:02:41.000 Because, you know, Noah Levine, he wrote this book Dharma Punks and he's been a Buddhist. 0.99

02:02:45.000 He was a heroin addict.

02:02:46.000 He used to do a Buddhist ministry in the prisons and change these people's lives.

02:02:52.000 And, you know, they came out in this magazine called Satcha and I read this article.

02:02:57.000 So Satcha in Sanskrit means the mode of goodness.

02:03:01.000 So that's what this magazine was called.

02:03:03.000 And I read this article about these inmates that he was working with and one of them said he was never getting out.

02:03:09.000 He's, you know, life without the possibility.

02:03:12.000 And he said, if I had access to the information of what I've learned through this program, I wouldn't be where I'm at. 0.98

02:03:18.000 So then that planted the seed in me and then just seeing what the whole shit's turned into, how the people that really need the food deserts and everything that's going on in this country and the research I've done and everything I've been talking about and fighting for change by taking action against the fucked up shit and then 13th coming out and just lit another fire under me. 0.99

02:03:42.000 I'm like, man, you know, let's fucking like help these people, man. 1.00

02:03:47.000 But yeah, I knew about all that coke shit back in the fucking day and at first I was like, yo, because Congress wouldn't cut a check to him to do his dirty fucking shit down in South America. 1.00

02:04:00.000 We got our hands in wars all over this fucking, trying to take down governments all over this fucking planet. 1.00

02:04:06.000 Man, it's insane. 0.99

02:04:07.000 Yeah, that Barry Seale story is fantastic, too.

02:04:10.000 That's the guy that Tom Cruise played in that movie. 0.88

02:04:13.000 I mean, it's a fucked up version of it in the movie. 0.61

02:04:15.000 I'm sure it's not totally accurate. 0.92

02:04:16.000 But that guy was selling drugs and he was going to South America and bringing them over and dropping them off in Arkansas while Clinton was the governor.

02:04:24.000 And he pardoned him. 0.99

02:04:25.000 The DEA dude was like, I fucking got you. 0.99

02:04:28.000 Call comes, let him go. 0.99

02:04:30.000 Guess who it was?

02:04:31.000 Bill Clinton.

02:04:32.000 Yeah, that's fact. 1.00

02:04:33.000 Dude, that's a fucking fact. 0.99

02:04:35.000 Yeah, that really did happen. 1.00

02:04:36.000 And then you get, you know, Hillary Clinton, I'm for black people and this and that.

02:04:40.000 No, you ain't. 0.99

02:04:41.000 Now she's like, yeah, we have to change the fucking prison laws and the sentencing laws on drugs. 1.00

02:04:46.000 Yo, you created those. 1.00

02:04:48.000 The three strikes was your fucking husband. 1.00

02:04:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:50.000 She's a fascinating character because people want to think of her as being this super progressive person because she's a woman and because she's a Democrat. 1.00

02:04:58.000 She didn't even believe in gay marriage until 2013. She talked shit. 1.00

02:05:02.000 I saw videos of her talking shit against gay marriage and like, you know... 1.00

02:05:09.000 Marriage should be the unity of a man and a woman. 1.00

02:05:13.000 It's all political.

02:05:15.000 They're all mouthpieces. 0.99

02:05:17.000 No one can take a stance and say, this is who the fuck I am, no matter what group I'm talking in front of. 0.99

02:05:23.000 That's who I look to and have respect. 1.00

02:05:25.000 I don't change my stance on shit. 0.99

02:05:27.000 Well, you remember when Bernie Sanders was trying to get her to release the transcripts of those speeches that she gave in front of the bankers? 0.99

02:05:32.000 Come on! 0.61

02:05:33.000 Tell us what you said! 1.00

02:05:34.000 Those fucking things were buried, long gone, like no chance. 1.00

02:05:38.000 You're not going to release those. 1.00

02:05:39.000 That would be some dark shit where she's making sure that you're going to make more money. 1.00

02:05:43.000 You get me an office. 0.97

02:05:44.000 I'm going to make sure you keep making money.

02:05:46.000 We're here to make you make more money.

02:05:49.000 I've seen...

02:05:52.000 Your comments on Trump to some point.

02:05:54.000 What do you think about homeboy?

02:05:56.000 I think no one should be president. 1.00

02:05:58.000 And I think the idea of having a popularity contest is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

02:06:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

02:06:03.000 What we should have is a council of wise people. 0.97

02:06:06.000 Old school! 1.00

02:06:07.000 The real shit! 1.00

02:06:08.000 There should be a group of the most wise economists. 1.00

02:06:12.000 Qualified!

02:06:13.000 But your work should be judged.

02:06:16.000 It shouldn't be partisan.

02:06:17.000 It shouldn't be you're trying to appeal to social justice warriors or radical progressives or radical conservatives or right-wing Christian fundamentalists.

02:06:27.000 It should be you're making sense because you understand law and fairness and ethics and morals and values, and you understand with an objective sense and an educated sense of how to establish a quality Community of human beings,

02:06:43.000 a civilization in which people can prosper, in which laws are fair, and in which we establish what do we find necessary, what do we find important, what's imperative, education, community,

02:06:58.000 all these different values, and enforce those.

02:07:02.000 It's somehow or another figure out a way to make this world a better place than what it is now.

02:07:08.000 Engineer a better place.

02:07:09.000 That's not what we get. 0.99

02:07:10.000 What you get is some person who says they're going to do all kinds of shit until they get in there, and they very rarely do. 0.99

02:07:15.000 Did you see the A-B shit that they just put up for all of fucking Trump, like the shitty promise on the campaign, and now what he's actually doing? 0.99

02:07:23.000 No one's done any different. 1.00

02:07:24.000 Obama did the same shit. 1.00

02:07:26.000 Obama did the same shit. 1.00

02:07:27.000 Yeah, I mean, people forget. 1.00

02:07:29.000 Listen. 1.00

02:07:29.000 Hillary would have done the same shit. 1.00

02:07:30.000 They all do the same shit. 1.00

02:07:32.000 And the thing that fucks me up the most is the popular vote doesn't decide who the fuck gets in. 1.00

02:07:37.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

02:07:38.000 It's fucking the electoral colleges. 1.00

02:07:40.000 What the fuck is that? 1.00

02:07:41.000 Yeah, what is that? 1.00

02:07:41.000 What is that shit? 1.00

02:07:42.000 Who is that? 1.00

02:07:43.000 Who the fuck are all those? 1.00

02:07:45.000 Representative government was a great idea when you had to get on a fucking horse and take your ass to Washington in order to place your votes. 1.00

02:07:51.000 You don't have to do that anymore. 1.00

02:07:52.000 You can vote instantaneously.

02:07:54.000 People should be able to vote on issues with their phone.

02:07:57.000 Okay?

02:07:57.000 Your phone's in your pocket all the time.

02:07:59.000 You should be able to...

02:08:00.000 First of all, you should have some sort of an understanding of what you're voting on.

02:08:03.000 You should have to pass some sort of a test.

02:08:05.000 They should say, do you want to vote on spending?

02:08:10.000 Do you want to vote on healthcare?

02:08:12.000 How much do you understand about healthcare?

02:08:13.000 Well, let's take a test.

02:08:15.000 And the people that can pass the test, understanding what the consequences are or why they're doing this, then you should be able to vote.

02:08:21.000 But this should be something that...

02:08:23.000 You should have some skin in the game.

02:08:25.000 There should be some...

02:08:27.000 Absolutely.

02:08:28.000 Some understanding of what this system is. 1.00

02:08:30.000 Instead, you know, look, I'm not a giant supporter of any mainstream media, whether it's right-wing or left-wing, but there's something fucked up about these people from CNN going to these Trump rallies, and you've got hundreds of people giving them the finger, fuck you, 1.00

02:08:46.000 you're fake news, fuck you, and they've got American flag t-shirts on. 1.00

02:08:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:08:50.000 There's a nonsense, almost pro-wrestling aspect to all this. 1.00

02:08:55.000 It's what it's become.

02:08:55.000 But he's profiting off this.

02:08:58.000 Trump is, for his advantage, he set this up.

02:09:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:09:02.000 Because he found a broken system, and he said, I'll just fucking rig the system. 0.99

02:09:07.000 I know how to get people to like me. 0.91

02:09:08.000 I've been doing this forever. 0.99

02:09:09.000 I'm a cocky, arrogant billionaire. 0.99

02:09:12.000 That's my shtick. 1.00

02:09:13.000 I'm gonna walk up there with my $5,000 suit on and I'm gonna wow the shit out of these dummies and I'm gonna have them cheering for me. 0.99

02:09:19.000 These guys are fake news. 0.99

02:09:21.000 You sit down, you're fake news and everybody goes crazy and cheers.

02:09:24.000 Yeah, did you see that somebody just...

02:09:26.000 This video was, I think it was...

02:09:29.000 It might have been CNN that posted, and it was like the toxic level of...

02:09:34.000 It was this group, and they were just yelling at CNN. That was Jim Acosta.

02:09:37.000 Yeah.

02:09:37.000 Yeah, that was exactly what I'm talking about.

02:09:39.000 Yeah, that's who I saw, and they were all like, fuck you, and the chick that was fucking screaming. 1.00

02:09:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:09:44.000 I'll tell you something, because I'm a native New Yorker and I have friends that are in the unions and they built fucking... 1.00

02:09:50.000 Trump burned a lot of fucking people and got rid of fucking skilled labor and skilled fucking union people and burned union people and hired illegals to do the fucking work in his fucking building. 1.00

02:10:05.000 All this shit this guy says, he's... 1.00

02:10:08.000 You know, everybody says what they have to say in order to get the votes and... 1.00

02:10:14.000 He didn't have a good reputation amongst construction people.

02:10:16.000 Terrible.

02:10:17.000 Terrible.

02:10:17.000 And also not for paying his bills, too.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, he always...

02:10:19.000 There's so many lawsuits against him.

02:10:21.000 How about that fucking school that he fucking had? 1.00

02:10:23.000 Yeah, Trump University. 1.00

02:10:24.000 Trump University. 0.99

02:10:24.000 Crazy. 0.99

02:10:25.000 Trump University. 1.00

02:10:27.000 If you gave that motherfucker your money... 1.00

02:10:29.000 But you know what? 1.00

02:10:30.000 That doesn't mean that Hillary would have been a good choice, either. 0.57

02:10:32.000 She was a techie.

02:10:33.000 Terrible choice. 0.98

02:10:33.000 She's a corrupt politician, one of the most unlikable people that's ever run for office. 0.98

02:10:38.000 In so many ways. 1.00

02:10:39.000 Crazy shit. 1.00

02:10:40.000 And they were trying to get people to be supporting her just because she's a woman. 1.00

02:10:45.000 There was a lot of that.

02:10:46.000 It's like, this is going to be her history.

02:10:48.000 You know, women, ladies, I stand with her. 1.00

02:10:51.000 So there's all these women that have this blind allegiance towards this career politician. 1.00

02:10:55.000 It's completely full of shit. 1.00

02:10:57.000 She's been full of shit forever. 1.00

02:10:58.000 If you watch the conversation between James Comey, when James Comey testified about what he did and what they found with the Hillary Clinton emails, and then her version of it, she's just a straight liar. 1.00

02:11:09.000 Yeah.

02:11:09.000 She deleted 33,000 emails.

02:11:12.000 How the fuck do you do that? 0.99

02:11:13.000 And then... 0.99

02:11:15.000 Even worse than that, when they rigged the DNC, they rigged the primaries so that Bernie Sanders was going to lose.

02:11:21.000 I mean, she had her people into the DNC. That was crazy.

02:11:24.000 Way in advance.

02:11:25.000 That Donna Brazile book about it is mind-blowing.

02:11:27.000 Yes. 1.00

02:11:28.000 The thing was, he was packing fucking stadiums. 1.00

02:11:31.000 She couldn't even fill a fucking high school gymnasium. 1.00

02:11:34.000 Right. 0.99

02:11:35.000 She was pulling all the strings, and she had all the favors that she was pulling in, and she had a shit ton of money behind her, and they were completely arrogant, and all the liberal elite and the media thought there was no chance that she was going to lose. 0.95

02:11:47.000 She's 95% shoo-in to win the presidency, and she walked around like she was 95%. 1.00

02:11:52.000 She already thought she won.

02:11:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:54.000 But you had the Benghazi shit. 1.00

02:11:56.000 What the fuck was up with that? 1.00

02:11:58.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:11:58.000 What the fuck was going on over there? 1.00

02:12:00.000 A lot of lies. 1.00

02:12:01.000 And you know, with the dirt that's on, I hope, you know, whatever. 0.99

02:12:06.000 Bill Clinton, I know you eat vegan sometimes, so don't fucking say nobody else. 0.96

02:12:10.000 He doesn't anymore. 0.97

02:12:10.000 He had a real problem with it, health-wise. 0.97

02:12:12.000 Well, you know what?

02:12:13.000 When...

02:12:14.000 It's just the hate rotting him out from inside.

02:12:17.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:12:17.000 All the times he pulled his dick out. 1.00

02:12:19.000 But like... 1.00

02:12:23.000 No, but like, how the fuck did she get away with that? 0.99

02:12:26.000 Well, how about shaming all the women that came out and accused him? 1.00

02:12:30.000 She would attack those women and go after them. 1.00

02:12:32.000 And, you know, I mean, Bourdain talked about that recently before he killed himself.

02:12:36.000 There was a thing about what she had done to attack the women who were victims of Bill, you know, especially earlier in her career. 1.00

02:12:45.000 Oh, God, she fucking... 1.00

02:12:46.000 She represented child molesters. 1.00

02:12:48.000 That was one of the things that She did earlier in her career. 0.52

02:12:50.000 She got them off.

02:12:51.000 There's a videotape that Dave Smith was talking about.

02:12:54.000 She was laughing in one of them about the victims. 0.99

02:12:56.000 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with... 0.99

02:12:58.000 She was laughing about the effectiveness of lie detector tests. 0.98

02:13:01.000 She was like, obviously they don't work.

02:13:05.000 Yeah, she's a piece of work. 1.00

02:13:06.000 She is, man.

02:13:07.000 She's a long-time, lifelong politician and a lawyer. 1.00

02:13:11.000 And what about all the shit that went down in Arkansas, the shit that they were all accused of back in the day? 1.00

02:13:17.000 What was that? 1.00

02:13:18.000 The Whitewater thing. 1.00

02:13:19.000 Whitewater fucking thing. 1.00

02:13:20.000 The Whitewater shit. 1.00

02:13:21.000 And just the string of people that have been fucking whacked who tried to... 1.00

02:13:25.000 Vince Foster. 0.98

02:13:27.000 There's a great book I read a long time ago called The Strange Death of Vince Foster.

02:13:30.000 It's like, wait a minute, what?

02:13:32.000 They found the gun in his hand, which you never do when you kill yourself. 0.77

02:13:35.000 When you shoot yourself, when you shoot yourself and you pull that trigger, blam!

02:13:39.000 Everything goes, the gun goes flying. 0.70

02:13:41.000 You don't hold on to it.

02:13:42.000 There's recoil in the gun. 0.99

02:13:44.000 And you blew your brains out. 0.96

02:13:45.000 You're not holding your gun anymore. 1.00

02:13:47.000 It goes flying.

02:13:47.000 And he had the gun in his hand, and the blood that was missing from his body was not on the scene of the crime.

02:13:53.000 So the researchers think that they moved his body.

02:13:57.000 He was dead.

02:13:58.000 They put him there and rigged the crime scene.

02:14:00.000 And then put a gun in his hand.

02:14:01.000 Case closed.

02:14:02.000 But what was he testifying?

02:14:04.000 He had information about Whitewater.

02:14:07.000 What he was going to say.

02:14:09.000 Who knows?

02:14:10.000 They killed him.

02:14:10.000 We'll never find out.

02:14:11.000 How about the guy that was one of the whistleblowers for Enron.

02:14:15.000 Shot himself in the head twice.

02:14:18.000 How'd he do that? 1.00

02:14:19.000 That shit's hilarious. 1.00

02:14:20.000 You shoot yourself in the head twice. 1.00

02:14:21.000 Case closed. 1.00

02:14:23.000 That's clearly a suicide. 0.99

02:14:24.000 I mean, I guess you could kind of graze your head if you pussied out, like, ah! 1.00

02:14:29.000 And you're like, fuck, I'm bleeding! 1.00

02:14:31.000 Boom! 1.00

02:14:31.000 You could do it. 1.00

02:14:32.000 It is possible. 0.99

02:14:33.000 But it's more likely somebody killed them.

02:14:35.000 Yeah, it's just there's...

02:14:37.000 People kill people!

02:14:38.000 It's part of the thing.

02:14:39.000 When you're involved with billion-dollar deals with giant corporations, and they're also tied into the military-industrial complex, who, by the way, kill innocents all the time and write it off. 0.97

02:14:49.000 Like, all this shit that happened with drones, what's the number? 0.93

02:14:52.000 It's like in the high 80s or 90% innocent people killed by drones. 0.99

02:14:56.000 They don't worry about that.

02:14:57.000 You think they're going to worry about some guy who's going to sink Monsanto or sink Enron or sink the Clintons or sink anybody? 1.00

02:15:04.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:15:05.000 Send the boys. 1.00

02:15:06.000 Get them whacked. 0.99

02:15:07.000 Clean it up. 0.99

02:15:08.000 Absolutely.

02:15:09.000 Good. 0.99

02:15:09.000 Shot himself in the head twice. 0.99

02:15:10.000 Okay. 0.71

02:15:10.000 Press conference. 0.71

02:15:11.000 We're all good.

02:15:12.000 Everything's wonderful.

02:15:13.000 Here's Monsanto with some new glyphosate.

02:15:16.000 It's going to fix your corn.

02:15:18.000 You'll never have to... 0.86

02:15:20.000 But I read this thing that most of the most of the glyphosate that's being put out there is by people on their fucking own homes They don't know any better they spray roundup It's you know I have a friend who had bone cancer and he lived near a golf course and they put so many Pesticides in the golf course that it got into the groundwater right and he said all these people in his neighborhood got cancer and He has a fake femur bone. 0.85

02:15:47.000 One of his femur bones, it's a metal bone. 0.95

02:15:50.000 He got bone cancer.

02:15:51.000 They cut his bone out and they replaced it with this metal pipe. 0.98

02:15:56.000 The history of them too was Agent Orange and all this other shit. 0.97

02:16:01.000 My uncle was forced recon in the Marines and he got everyone in his units that got, they're behind enemy lines and got MS cancer. 1.00

02:16:14.000 They were spraying that shit on our own fucking troops. 1.00

02:16:17.000 Yeah, well, they figured, look, this is the way we got to get rid of it. 1.00

02:16:20.000 The problem is they're hiding in the jungle.

02:16:22.000 We got to get rid of the jungle. 1.00

02:16:23.000 Let's just kill the jungle with poison. 1.00

02:16:25.000 This is crazy thinking. 1.00

02:16:27.000 They just sprayed chemicals all over the jungle to kill the fucking forest so they could see where the enemy are hiding. 1.00

02:16:33.000 And then they had the troops walking through those chemicals. 1.00

02:16:36.000 It's fucking... 1.00

02:16:36.000 Fucking nuts. 1.00

02:16:37.000 It is. 1.00

02:16:38.000 And history will not judge them kindly.

02:16:41.000 When they step back and think about what they actually did, I mean, it's in the 1960s, it's our parents' generation, and the way we look at it, it's almost like this unfortunate thing that happened, but I almost think we're too close to it to recognize how horrific it is that the soldiers who were putting their lives on the line in their thought to defend our freedom over in America were getting poisoned.

02:17:05.000 By their own government.

02:17:06.000 Look at Iraq. 0.93

02:17:07.000 Where were they putting all the depleted uranium?

02:17:09.000 Exactly.

02:17:10.000 All these soldiers are coming back from the Gulf War and everything else. 0.99

02:17:13.000 We're dumping all the fucking depleted uranium over there. 0.99

02:17:16.000 It's a dumping ground for us. 1.00

02:17:18.000 They're getting fucking... 1.00

02:17:18.000 Not just dumping. 1.00

02:17:19.000 They were using it as rounds.

02:17:20.000 Yeah.

02:17:20.000 They were using it as anti-tank rounds.

02:17:22.000 That's what I meant.

02:17:22.000 They were putting it in...

02:17:24.000 They were weaponizing it. 1.00

02:17:25.000 And then all the fucking troops are coming back having fucking kids with deformities and getting cancer and all this shit turned down for their benefits. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Yeah, they denied it was even an issue. 1.00

02:17:35.000 Denied it?

02:17:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Fucking, what the fuck is that? 1.00

02:17:38.000 They don't care. 1.00

02:17:38.000 It's all about money for them. 1.00

02:17:40.000 They're distantly removed from it the same way someone's distantly removed from factory farming if they buy a burger at a restaurant or a burger at a fast food joint.

02:17:50.000 They're not thinking about a pig that's in that can that makes that McRib.

02:17:55.000 They're not thinking about that.

02:17:56.000 The disconnect isn't...

02:17:58.000 And the people that are thinking about the numbers on the paper, look, they're number crunchers.

02:18:02.000 They've got to save the government some money.

02:18:04.000 Deny them.

02:18:05.000 Make them fight it.

02:18:06.000 There's no Gulf War syndrome.

02:18:08.000 My uncle gave up.

02:18:09.000 Did you see...

02:18:10.000 Detachment.

02:18:11.000 Speaking of the military-industrial conference, did you see the latest movie that came out with Woody Harrelson, Shock and All?

02:18:17.000 Have you seen that yet?

02:18:18.000 No, I didn't see that.

02:18:19.000 About how... 0.99

02:18:20.000 Oh, they uncovered the whole fucking thing about how the fucking weapons of mass destruction was just a complete lie. 0.99

02:18:27.000 Every news media outlet, except for one... 1.00

02:18:30.000 Lied and backed up the government's claim and the whole shit. 0.99

02:18:34.000 The Times ended up apologizing like we got it wrong. 1.00

02:18:38.000 So you go in there, you fucking send troops in there, you fucking kill how many millions of fucking innocent people over there to what? 1.00

02:18:48.000 To sell fucking weapons and push another... 1.00

02:18:51.000 And then there's a justification after the act. 1.00

02:18:53.000 Like, hey, it was a good thing to get Saddam Hussein out of there anyway. 0.86

02:18:57.000 He was a bad guy. 0.99

02:18:58.000 Yeah, but the CIA worked with him in the early 80s and gave him the fucking gas that he used. 1.00

02:19:03.000 So, what the fuck is like, you know, that was just some yeehaw shit because fucking homeboy, you know... 1.00

02:19:11.000 Well, it was... 1.00

02:19:12.000 They took advantage of an opportunity.

02:19:14.000 We got attacked, you know, September 11th.

02:19:17.000 The planes get hit by the...

02:19:18.000 Or the towers get hit by the planes.

02:19:20.000 Everybody wanted action.

02:19:22.000 And this was an opportunity for them to take advantage of this call for action.

02:19:26.000 And even though we're going against someone that had nothing to do with the attacks on September 11th, people felt like something was happening.

02:19:34.000 The head guy from... 0.85

02:19:37.000 Department of Defense was like, what do you mean they're fucking... 0.99

02:19:40.000 You gotta see this movie. 0.98

02:19:41.000 It's all fact-based, too.

02:19:42.000 It's like, what do you mean we're going...

02:19:44.000 Iraq didn't have anything to do with it. 0.99

02:19:45.000 What the fuck are we going into Iraq? 0.98

02:19:47.000 Oh, well, he... 0.99

02:19:48.000 And then they tried to say he let Osama bin Laden... 1.00

02:19:52.000 And they said, if Osama bin Laden met Saddam Hussein face-to-face, he would tell him to go fuck himself. 1.00

02:19:59.000 That's how different ideologies those two had. 1.00

02:20:03.000 Yeah, Osama bin Laden was religious. 0.54

02:20:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:08.000 It's fucking crazy. 1.00

02:20:10.000 And they sold it. 1.00

02:20:11.000 They just sold it. 1.00

02:20:12.000 But what's great about the movie is it shows how they just started force-feeding the information out there to create this fucking feverish, kill, kill, kill fucking mentality that the Americans... 0.99

02:20:27.000 Well, this is the same thing you're seeing with these people screaming at Jim Acosta. 1.00

02:20:31.000 You can manipulate dummies' mindsets, and this is what they do. 0.91

02:20:35.000 I mean, it's an easy way to pull the strings of the most easily led.

02:20:38.000 You gotta think, who's going to these rallies in the first place? 1.00

02:20:42.000 Most of these people that are going to these, like, Trump rallies or something like that, they're morons. 1.00

02:20:47.000 That's why they're going to these things. 1.00

02:20:48.000 They don't have shit to do. 0.95

02:20:49.000 Even if you're a Trump supporter, If you're an intelligent Trump supporter, which I do believe is possible, you're a person who's not going to go to a rally. 0.99

02:20:57.000 You have a job.

02:20:58.000 You're doing something during the day. 0.99

02:20:59.000 My buddy Jimmy Brady, he's a fucking Iron Man. 0.97

02:21:01.000 He's a firefighter in New York. 1.00

02:21:03.000 He's fucking got three kids. 0.99

02:21:05.000 A lot of the New York City Fire Department and Police Department supported Trump. 1.00

02:21:09.000 He ain't going to no fucking Trump rallies. 0.99

02:21:11.000 I mean, he's like, you know, he's a fucking really smart cat. 1.00

02:21:16.000 Those people are lost people. 0.98

02:21:18.000 And they found their hero. 1.00

02:21:20.000 And the problem with a guy like Trump is, he's an asshole, but he's an asshole On purpose. 1.00

02:21:30.000 Like, this is part of what his shtick is. 1.00

02:21:32.000 Right.

02:21:32.000 You attack me, I'll attack you back, you know, and he starts making fun of Rosie O'Donnell or making fun of this person or that person.

02:21:38.000 Get him out of here! 0.95

02:21:39.000 We knew how to deal with people. 1.00

02:21:40.000 Like, did you see his whole shit that they put in the 13th? 1.00

02:21:43.000 And like, you know, he was talking to the black people that were in the fucking... 1.00

02:21:47.000 We knew... 0.99

02:21:47.000 The cops knew how to deal with these guys back in the day. 0.99

02:21:52.000 Punch him in the face! 1.00

02:21:53.000 Get him out of here! 1.00

02:21:54.000 And then they were... 1.00

02:21:54.000 He's inciting a lot of this shit. 1.00

02:21:57.000 Well, he's a good rabble rouser. 1.00

02:21:59.000 I mean, that's part of being an asshole. 1.00

02:22:02.000 Divide and conquer. 1.00

02:22:04.000 If they could keep the people fighting each other over stupid shit, then you're not going to take the time to sit back. 1.00

02:22:10.000 I compare those people, you know, what's really going on. 1.00

02:22:14.000 I use the analogy of a magician. 0.99

02:22:17.000 They're trying to tell you, look what's in the left hand, but what the real shit is in the right hand. 1.00

02:22:21.000 So by doing all this shit and causing all these problems, you're not going to go back and look at the shit that he's pushing through, his agendas. 0.99

02:22:29.000 He just cut taxes to the fucking richest people, the billionaires and corporations, which he said he wasn't going to do. 0.99

02:22:38.000 He's going back on everything. 1.00

02:22:40.000 So if he could just get people, fuck you and fuck you and... 1.00

02:22:44.000 Getting people to hate each other and keep this country. 1.00

02:22:47.000 It's the United States of America. 0.99

02:22:50.000 When the fuck, how did we become united as a country? 0.99

02:22:54.000 Like, I think a lot of these countries right now who may pose a threat or whatever, they're seeing what the fuck's going on and they're like, yo, this country's never been more fucking divided. 0.99

02:23:06.000 It's the divided states of America, not the United States of America. 0.91

02:23:11.000 Well, what he's doing with these rallies is he's getting people excited about being a part of a team, and a team that's winning. 0.95

02:23:18.000 You know, like, we're the team that's kicking ass, and this is team fake news over there. 1.00

02:23:21.000 You tell them to go fuck themselves. 1.00

02:23:23.000 And everybody goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:23:24.000 He's consolidating his support.

02:23:26.000 And it doesn't have to make sense.

02:23:28.000 And especially it doesn't have to make sense with the people that are going to these rallies, because they're not smart people in the first place.

02:23:33.000 They're people that are easily led.

02:23:35.000 But that's the same thing with people that would go to the rallies for Hillary Clinton or people that go to the rallies for almost all these people.

02:23:40.000 A giant chunk of them are just... 0.91

02:23:42.000 They're just lemmings.

02:23:44.000 They don't know what to do.

02:23:45.000 I do have to admit one thing. 1.00

02:23:49.000 And that was when fucking Hillary Clinton was losing and the faces of the crying people who were like fucking losing their shit when Trump won. 1.00

02:24:01.000 I was like... 1.00

02:24:02.000 I'm sorry, but like, fucking dude, if that's the fucking truth of your existence that you put every fucking ounce of your shit into this fucking corrupt ass politician, whether it's fucking Hillary Clinton or fucking Bernie Sanders or any of them. 1.00

02:24:19.000 I feel fucking sorry for you. 1.00

02:24:21.000 I was laughing at those people when she lost and they were losing their shit on TV. They were just fucking stunned. 1.00

02:24:27.000 I'm like... 0.99

02:24:28.000 Because you don't realize I travel through America and people may be progressive... 1.00

02:24:34.000 On the outskirts, but go into the middle of this motherfucker and see what you got. 1.00

02:24:39.000 And that's the motherfuckers that voted for that dude. 1.00

02:24:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:44.000 Well, there was also people realized that she was corrupt. 1.00

02:24:47.000 I mean, he did a good job of calling her corrupt Hillary. 0.93

02:24:49.000 Absolutely.

02:24:50.000 He just kept...

02:24:51.000 The mantra was going. 1.00

02:24:53.000 He loves mantras, and he pushes those fucking... 0.99

02:24:56.000 But they just had... 1.00

02:24:58.000 Yeah, corrupt Hillary. 1.00

02:24:59.000 He's got some good ones, man. 1.00

02:25:00.000 Crazy Bernie. 0.95

02:25:01.000 Crazy Bernie. 0.90

02:25:02.000 Yeah. 0.79

02:25:03.000 I mean, he's a good manipulator in that sense.

02:25:07.000 But she didn't do any service. 1.00

02:25:09.000 But there was also, like, a lot of the women that were really upset were like, this guy was in that video saying, you take girls and grab them by the pussy. 1.00

02:25:17.000 And so they felt like this was going to give men a license to be sexually abusive. 0.99

02:25:21.000 And I think that, in a lot of ways, is what started the ball rolling with the Me Too movement.

02:25:28.000 It wasn't just the exposing of monsters like Bill Cosby, but it was also the fact that you're dealing with this guy who gets in the White House that's clearly not what you want.

02:25:40.000 If it's a man, you want a man who respects women, who's a statesman, who's a person who has worked their life to get to that position.

02:25:49.000 Not a person who did it as an afterthought once they were already famous.

02:25:52.000 Right.

02:25:52.000 See, like, the difference between a guy like Obama, like Obama's probably, he's probably measured his words ever since he was in college because he was hoping one day he would be president.

02:26:01.000 Whereas a guy like Donald Trump's just been banging hoes and fucking flying around with a jet with his name on it since the 80s. 1.00

02:26:09.000 I mean, this is what the guy did. 0.98

02:26:10.000 So then once he's in office, people are like, no!

02:26:14.000 They just couldn't believe it.

02:26:16.000 Like, how could this have happened? 1.00

02:26:17.000 This is the pussy grabber. 1.00

02:26:18.000 He's not supposed We're supposed to be in there. 1.00

02:26:20.000 And I get their pain.

02:26:22.000 I understand it.

02:26:23.000 But it is also funny.

02:26:25.000 There's something, like the women's on her knees with the glasses. 1.00

02:26:28.000 You ever seen that chick with the knit hat on screaming? 1.00

02:26:31.000 She's like, she's a meme. 1.00

02:26:33.000 She lost her shit. 1.00

02:26:34.000 She will exist forever. 1.00

02:26:35.000 Yeah, they made her meme.

02:26:37.000 Yeah, they...

02:26:39.000 They call it Trump derangement syndrome now because people are literally, they're so angry that he is in power and there's nothing they can do about it.

02:26:47.000 But the problem is that anger and that going derange, that empowers the people that support him.

02:26:55.000 They don't understand. 1.00

02:26:55.000 When you're on your knees screaming, fuck yeah! 1.00

02:26:59.000 The people on the other side that are Trump supporters with their fucking red hats on, they think that's hilarious. 1.00

02:27:04.000 They think, look, this is the liberal left, unhinged, detached from reality. 0.99

02:27:09.000 Meanwhile, we're making America great again and black unemployment's at an all-time low.

02:27:13.000 And, you know, it's...

02:27:15.000 Weird time for the truth, because there's so many people that don't want to go any further past the surface.

02:27:21.000 The truth is, this guy figured out a way to win a rigged system.

02:27:27.000 He did.

02:27:28.000 He figured out a way to win a rigged system by pretending to be a Republican.

02:27:32.000 Guy was a Democrat his whole life.

02:27:34.000 Democratic supporter his whole life. 1.00

02:27:36.000 Figured out a way, oh, just fucking be a Republican. 1.00

02:27:38.000 They're easier to scam. 1.00

02:27:39.000 Weaseled his way in.

02:27:41.000 Figured out a way to make America great again.

02:27:43.000 Yeah, rah, rah, rah. 1.00

02:27:44.000 Call people a bunch of stupid shit. 1.00

02:27:46.000 Campaign like a motherfucker. 1.00

02:27:47.000 Take diet pills. 1.00

02:27:48.000 Keep that energy high.

02:27:50.000 Just travel all across the country doing these rallies.

02:27:53.000 And won.

02:27:54.000 You know, and want a system that really shouldn't be there to win.

02:27:57.000 And I think that we need a better way to run our government. 0.98

02:28:01.000 I think your idea is fucking genius. 0.98

02:28:03.000 Having an alpha male or alpha female that one person, the one at the top of the peak, running 300 million people is insane. 0.99

02:28:12.000 Running 300 people is insane. 0.99

02:28:15.000 You have 300 people, one person running shit, you're gonna have disagreements. 0.99

02:28:18.000 You're gonna have people that are upset that this one person gets to dictate for the next four to eight years the path of everyone in this group and your financial future, your healthcare, all these, how much taxes you pay, all depending on what dipshit wins the popularity contest? 0.99

02:28:34.000 That's outrageous. 0.95

02:28:35.000 Yeah.

02:28:35.000 It's an archaic way of handling things.

02:28:38.000 It's just not necessary.

02:28:39.000 But the problem with letting everybody vote too is that people are really easily manipulated and they're really undereducated.

02:28:46.000 They don't have any incentive to pay attention to the real issues and what's at stake and what the consequences of each vote are.

02:28:53.000 They just vote with whatever feels good and they're busy. 0.99

02:28:57.000 And people are tired because they're eating shitty food, and they're not exercising, and they're working all day in a job that sucks, and they come home, and their wife's bitching at them, and they're on antidepressants and pills, and their kids are all fucked up, and they don't have the time. 0.98

02:29:09.000 They don't have the time, and they don't have the incentive to be enlightened. 0.96

02:29:13.000 They don't have the incentive to have an objective, enlightened approach to how you handle the future of our society and what our children are going to be left with.

02:29:22.000 Well, that's why it's the genius of these commercials.

02:29:27.000 I mean, I can't even watch TV when it's election time because it's just like one dude after the next shitting on each other or this person saying something about that. 0.76

02:29:37.000 Just mock them for doing that. 0.99

02:29:39.000 It's like the two things that you get when that shit goes on. 0.99

02:29:42.000 One is those political commercials and two was all the commercials for the pharmaceuticals. 0.99

02:29:46.000 Well that's a crazy thing. 0.99

02:29:48.000 That's what you get every fucking night. 0.99

02:29:49.000 There's two countries on earth. 0.99

02:29:51.000 New Zealand and America.

02:29:52.000 New Zealand and the United States where you're allowed to direct advertise to customers, to patients. 0.99

02:29:58.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

02:29:59.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:29:59.000 What is that? 1.00

02:30:00.000 It's crazy.

02:30:01.000 And I love the commercials now where the dude figures it out.

02:30:04.000 Well, I asked about warfarin.

02:30:06.000 Yeah, now I know.

02:30:07.000 I'm going to be happy again.

02:30:09.000 People are walking down the street and you see cartoon flowers around them and butterflies and cool music.

02:30:15.000 Now, if your antidepressants is not working, Abilify can fix it all.

02:30:19.000 Abilify will fix that up.

02:30:20.000 Side effects include suicidal thoughts. 0.99

02:30:23.000 It's like, motherfucker, I had suicidal thoughts before. 0.99

02:30:25.000 Ferocious rectal bleeding. 1.00

02:30:27.000 Yo, some of the side effects are...

02:30:29.000 They're crazy. 0.98

02:30:30.000 It's fucking insane. 1.00

02:30:31.000 You know Abilify is an antipsychotic. 0.99

02:30:33.000 It's the number one prescribed medication in the country.

02:30:37.000 Abilify.

02:30:38.000 Really?

02:30:38.000 Number one prescribed medication in the country.

02:30:40.000 Wow.

02:30:40.000 It's an antipsychotic.

02:30:42.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:30:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:30:43.000 What?

02:30:44.000 That's insane.

02:30:44.000 I know.

02:30:45.000 You're like, what?

02:30:46.000 That's insane.

02:30:46.000 Pull that up.

02:30:47.000 Make sure that's true.

02:30:47.000 I know I read that, but make sure that's true.

02:30:50.000 Somebody talked about that on the podcast.

02:30:51.000 Who was it?

02:30:52.000 Do you remember?

02:30:52.000 This is an article from 2015 saying it is the America's top-selling drug.

02:30:57.000 Fuck! 1.00

02:30:58.000 It's an antipsychotic! 1.00

02:30:59.000 Yo! 1.00

02:31:00.000 Antipsychotic, Abilify is the biggest selling prescription drug in the US. $30 a fucking pill! 1.00

02:31:08.000 Damn, we're in the wrong business. 1.00

02:31:10.000 To be a top seller, a drug has to be expensive and also widely used. 1.00

02:31:15.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:31:15.000 Abilify is both expensive and widely used. 0.99

02:31:18.000 It's the 14th most prescribed brand name medication and it retails for $30 a pill.

02:31:23.000 So it's the biggest selling prescription drug in the U.S. Which company makes it?

02:31:28.000 Who's behind it?

02:31:29.000 That's a good question.

02:31:30.000 Who is behind it?

02:31:30.000 Put it.

02:31:31.000 Satan.

02:31:32.000 Satan Pharmaceuticals.

02:31:34.000 America's top selling drug.

02:31:35.000 I'll bet I can't Abilify. 0.98

02:31:37.000 Ugh.

02:31:38.000 It's terrifying.

02:31:40.000 Official site. 1.00

02:31:42.000 Let's see which one of these scumbags make it. 1.00

02:31:46.000 They're the worst. 1.00

02:31:47.000 Did you ever read Confessions of an R.A.? Did you ever read...

02:31:52.000 Atsuka?

02:31:53.000 Atsuka.

02:31:54.000 Atsuka.

02:31:55.000 They probably changed names like Blackwater.

02:31:57.000 Oh, they do.

02:31:58.000 Keep switching up their names.

02:31:59.000 Did you ever... 1.00

02:32:00.000 Well, now they changed fucking... 0.99

02:32:03.000 What do you call it to... 0.97

02:32:05.000 They're changing the name on all these ingredients that are in food, too.

02:32:10.000 Like...

02:32:12.000 What is the additive, the sweetener that Donald...

02:32:17.000 Aspartame?

02:32:18.000 Aspartame.

02:32:18.000 They changed their name to Amino Sweet now because...

02:32:21.000 Oh, adorable. 0.99

02:32:22.000 Dude, you know who owns the patent on fucking aspartame? 0.99

02:32:26.000 Didn't... 0.99

02:32:26.000 Donald... 0.99

02:32:27.000 Yeah, Donald Rumsfeld.

02:32:29.000 Donald Rumsfeld had something to do with it.

02:32:31.000 Owns that.

02:32:31.000 Well, he had something to do with passing it.

02:32:33.000 Yeah, he had something to do with ignoring evidence.

02:32:35.000 But see, someone told me that the amount of...

02:32:40.000 The chemicals they had to give to rats, the amount of aspartame they had to give to rats to kill them or to give them cancer was very high.

02:32:47.000 I'm like, okay, that's good.

02:32:49.000 Yeah, that's reassuring.

02:32:51.000 No, but there's a great book about the corruption of the pharmaceutical companies.

02:32:56.000 Can you Google this title real quick?

02:32:59.000 It's called Confessions.

02:33:00.000 Gwen Olson wrote a book called Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher.

02:33:05.000 And I think it was her niece died of a drug interaction that they knew about.

02:33:09.000 And she exposed the whole corruption in the pharmaceutical industry. 0.98

02:33:12.000 She was the top pharmaceutical rep.

02:33:14.000 And they said they know.

02:33:16.000 How does a drug get approved by the FDA? And then they turn around and fucking they pull it and people are dying and they settle for pennies on the dollar. 0.99

02:33:26.000 That's the fucking game. 1.00

02:33:27.000 They know there's going to be lawsuits. 1.00

02:33:30.000 And they're like, okay, we just made $3 billion off this drug and we settled our lawsuits for $200 billion.

02:33:37.000 $200 million, yeah.

02:33:38.000 $200 million, right.

02:33:39.000 So that's the game.

02:33:40.000 Right, the profit game.

02:33:42.000 But her book is amazing.

02:33:43.000 It's called Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher.

02:33:46.000 And that's what she was.

02:33:47.000 And she would buy out the doctors.

02:33:49.000 Half the people that they put on these medications, all they have to say is... 1.00

02:33:53.000 Change your fucking lifestyle, dude. 1.00

02:33:55.000 What is the father of modern medicine, Hippocrates, what did he say? 1.00

02:34:00.000 Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food.

02:34:03.000 There's also an Ayurvedic, I don't know if you know about the Ayurvedic system of medicine...

02:34:08.000 And it says when, you know, there's a whole quote about diet and seeing a doctor and stuff like that.

02:34:19.000 And it comes back to one thing, man.

02:34:21.000 Diet and lifestyle. 1.00

02:34:22.000 Like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

02:34:24.000 Tell people. 0.99

02:34:25.000 And that's what's great about a movie like Forks Over Knives.

02:34:29.000 Where there's anecdotal evidence that says, yo, if you stop, you see the change right there. 0.99

02:34:35.000 The fucking diabetes goes away. 1.00

02:34:36.000 The fucking heart disease. 1.00

02:34:38.000 All of this stuff. 1.00

02:34:40.000 Is cured by the fact that these people get their asses moving and they stop eating all this shitty food. 0.99

02:34:46.000 Yeah, shitty food is the number one problem. 0.99

02:34:48.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:34:48.000 It's the number one problem. 0.97

02:34:49.000 Sugar, refined carbohydrates, your body processing massive amounts of stuff that it's not supposed to get in nature.

02:34:56.000 Oils in everything.

02:34:56.000 Yeah.

02:34:57.000 Oils in everything.

02:34:58.000 And, you know, all these processed vegetable oils.

02:35:01.000 Terrible.

02:35:02.000 That they're cooking things in. 1.00

02:35:03.000 Corn oil and fucking... 1.00

02:35:05.000 And people think, oh, you know, even to a certain... 1.00

02:35:08.000 What do you got here, Jamie?

02:35:09.000 The Donald Rumsfeld action thing.

02:35:26.000 On January 21st, 1981, the day after Ronald Reagan's inauguration, C-A-R-L-E reapplied to the FDA for approval to use aspartame and food sweetener, and Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hall Jr.,

02:35:43.000 appointed a five-person scientific commission to review the Board of Inquiry decision It became clear the panel would uphold the ban by a 3-2 decision, but then Hull then installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked.

02:35:59.000 He then personally broke the tie in Aspartame's favor. 1.00

02:36:02.000 What a piece of shit. 1.00

02:36:04.000 But this puts... 1.00

02:36:06.000 They found evidence this shit makes holes in the brain. 1.00

02:36:09.000 Might induce... 1.00

02:36:10.000 The evidence...

02:36:11.000 Brain tumors.

02:36:12.000 Might induce brain tumors.

02:36:14.000 Well...

02:36:15.000 Might.

02:36:16.000 And the thing is now everyone got hip to aspartame. 0.99

02:36:19.000 Now you have to read because that's why the processed food is so fucking, you know, any of that fake sweetness shit. 0.99

02:36:28.000 And now they call it Amino Sweet is the new name that they changed it to. 0.99

02:36:32.000 Meanwhile, do you ever drink Zevia?

02:36:34.000 You ever drink Zevia soda?

02:36:36.000 No.

02:36:36.000 You ever have that?

02:36:37.000 Soda sweetened with Stevia?

02:36:39.000 Stevia. 0.99

02:36:39.000 It's fucking delicious. 0.99

02:36:40.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:36:41.000 Stevia's from plants.

02:36:42.000 It's a sweetener.

02:36:43.000 Yeah.

02:36:44.000 Some people don't like the taste.

02:36:47.000 Of stevia.

02:36:48.000 It tastes good.

02:36:49.000 You just can't have too much of it.

02:36:51.000 Protein powders that have stevia in it and stuff.

02:36:56.000 Clean Machine has a protein powder that's lentine, water lentils they call them.

02:37:03.000 It's real clean stuff.

02:37:06.000 Protein.

02:37:06.000 We were using Stevia for that.

02:37:08.000 I call it Stevia, not Stevia.

02:37:11.000 Potato, potato.

02:37:12.000 It just doesn't taste the same.

02:37:14.000 It tastes good.

02:37:15.000 But it's so potent.

02:37:17.000 The problem is if people have a cup of coffee, I would have Stevia out, and people would put it in there and be like, oh!

02:37:22.000 I'd be like, you put too much in.

02:37:23.000 You can't put it in sugar.

02:37:24.000 It's way more potent.

02:37:26.000 You just need a tiny dash.

02:37:27.000 Like even back in the day, I remember my mom being like, oh yeah, NutraSweet and this and that. 0.99

02:37:33.000 Let's put all these other, like cane sugar is better for you than these fucking fake sweeteners. 0.99

02:37:40.000 It is, but cane sugar is still terrible for you. 0.99

02:37:43.000 All that stuff's terrible for you.

02:37:44.000 You're not supposed to get sugar.

02:37:46.000 It causes acidity in the body.

02:37:47.000 If you're going to do sugar, you should eat fruit. 1.00

02:37:50.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:37:51.000 Well, it comes with the fiber, so your body's slowly digesting it, which is the way you're supposed to consume it. 1.00

02:37:55.000 But to be able to get a Gatorade, it's got fucking 80 grams of sugar, and that shit's terrible for you. 1.00

02:38:02.000 All that stuff's terrible for you. 1.00

02:38:03.000 Soda.

02:38:04.000 And they got all the pros pushing it, and these kids...

02:38:07.000 You go to these basketball camps or football camps or whatever or high schools and what are they drinking?

02:38:13.000 They're all drinking the Kool-Aid.

02:38:15.000 Yeah.

02:38:15.000 Well, you know what?

02:38:16.000 If you're exerting yourself very strenuously, you could use some of that glucose and it's okay. 0.94

02:38:22.000 But for the average person that goes to a fucking 7-Eleven and gets a big gulp and is downing 64 ounces of Coca-Cola, that is a crazy amount of sugar for your body to get in one serving. 0.99

02:38:33.000 Your body doesn't know what to do with that shit, so it stores it as fat. 1.00

02:38:37.000 I forget how many tablespoons of sugar they said is in one of them fucking big gulps. 1.00

02:38:44.000 Dude, they did a thing where they showed all the various sizes of soda next to a packet of the sugar, and you see the actual volume of sugar. 0.98

02:38:54.000 It's insane.

02:38:54.000 I saw that.

02:38:54.000 It's crazy.

02:38:55.000 This is our number one problem, and one of the things that I did when I cut sugar out of my diet.

02:38:59.000 There it is.

02:39:00.000 There's the image.

02:39:01.000 Oh, yeah.

02:39:01.000 I saw that.

02:39:02.000 Look at the big gulp.

02:39:03.000 That's a kilo of Coke, son.

02:39:05.000 Look at the size of that.

02:39:07.000 That's so much sugar. 0.99

02:39:09.000 Your body doesn't know what the fuck's going on when you take that much sugar in. 1.00

02:39:12.000 That's insane. 0.99

02:39:13.000 Your body's freaking out. 1.00

02:39:14.000 And the thing is, you got kids jacked up on that shit, going to school, bouncing off the fucking walls. 1.00

02:39:19.000 Yeah, and then they put them on Ritalin because Johnny's got too much energy. 1.00

02:39:23.000 Johnny's on drugs.

02:39:24.000 He's on sugar drug all day long.

02:39:26.000 Yeah, I mean, and then on top of that, here's one of the problems with people consuming that kind of stuff, and then on top of it, saturated fat.

02:39:36.000 See, there's studies now that are showing that cholesterol and saturated fat are healthy for your diet and healthy for your body unless...

02:39:45.000 You're consuming carbohydrates and refined sugars.

02:39:48.000 Because when you're doing that, then your body's not burning fat.

02:39:51.000 So your body's just storing fat.

02:39:53.000 And on top of that, you're pouring massive amounts of sugar in there.

02:39:56.000 So you're getting hardened into the arteries and clogging into the arteries.

02:39:59.000 And people think that they're conflating and confusing all this and thinking, well, this is because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat.

02:40:08.000 Nope, it's not.

02:40:09.000 It's because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat along with Simple carbohydrates, refined carbohydrates and sugars.

02:40:15.000 There's a chemical reaction that your body has that when you're eating these two things together, it becomes toxic.

02:40:21.000 It's very dangerous for you.

02:40:22.000 Nitro-semites as well.

02:40:24.000 And that's the average American diet.

02:40:26.000 When you cook meat and then combine it with alcohol and the rest of the stuff, it creates a chemical reaction in the body that then causes problems for you health-wise in your immune system and gut health and everything else.

02:40:40.000 Yeah, there's a ton of problems with people's bodies, and you could trace it back to a host of different things.

02:40:48.000 You could trace it back to pesticides.

02:40:51.000 You could trace it back to a lack of minerals.

02:40:53.000 You could trace it back to excess sugar.

02:40:55.000 You could trace it back to processed vegetable oils.

02:40:57.000 You could trace it back to sedentary life.

02:41:00.000 There's so many different things that are a factor in people's health issues.

02:41:05.000 But one of the problems with ideologies, whether it's this carnivore diet ideology or vegan diet ideology, is people want to look at one thing.

02:41:14.000 There's one thing that's wrong, and you fix this thing, and if you just do this one thing, you're going to be healthy.

02:41:19.000 That's not necessarily the case.

02:41:20.000 And there's a lot of people out there on both sides that are spreading misinformation because it supports their view.

02:41:27.000 It supports their...

02:41:28.000 Or quoting studies that were funded by the same companies that are making money off of selling foods that are high in saturated fats or cholesterol or are...

02:41:39.000 Trans fats.

02:41:40.000 Trans fats.

02:41:41.000 There's companies... 1.00

02:41:42.000 So you always have to look between the fucking lines. 0.99

02:41:46.000 That's where the truth lies. 0.99

02:41:48.000 Because the milk industries...

02:41:50.000 What was the other documentary that came out? 0.99

02:41:56.000 Fuck, it was about, it started with the cigarettes and the chemicals that they were using in furniture. 1.00

02:42:03.000 There was this documentary, and I always blank on it, this fucking old man brain that I have. 1.00

02:42:08.000 It was a documentary about how they paid these people to put out false information. 0.99

02:42:14.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.

02:42:14.000 Merchants of Doubt.

02:42:15.000 Merchants of Doubt! 0.99

02:42:16.000 Amazing documentary. 1.00

02:42:17.000 Holy fucking shit! 1.00

02:42:18.000 The same people that are doubting climate change were also doubting cigarettes being addicted. 1.00

02:42:23.000 Yep.

02:42:23.000 They're using the same human beings.

02:42:25.000 And they're using the same tactics that they've been using to push the chemicals. 1.00

02:42:31.000 They had motherfuckers spraying DDT on their fucking clothes hanging in their closet to stop moths. 1.00

02:42:38.000 Can you fucking believe that shit? 1.00

02:42:40.000 They did that? 1.00

02:42:41.000 Dude! 1.00

02:42:42.000 It's in the fucking movie. 1.00

02:42:44.000 They had him spraying fucking cancer-causing fucking chemicals on this shit. 1.00

02:42:51.000 Just when you see those guys are the same guys that were trying to say that cigarettes are not addictive, and the same people that were dismissing climate change, you're like... 1.00

02:43:01.000 What?

02:43:02.000 Like, how can you be so obvious?

02:43:03.000 You don't even use new people?

02:43:04.000 They did the thing with the guy from Monsanto in the Roundup. 0.99

02:43:08.000 He goes, I would drink fucking Roundup. 1.00

02:43:10.000 And he goes, okay, I'm gonna go get you a fucking glass. 1.00

02:43:13.000 Here's a glass of fucking... 1.00

02:43:14.000 Drink it. 1.00

02:43:15.000 He's like, drink it.

02:43:16.000 He's like, nope.

02:43:17.000 What is this, Jamie?

02:43:19.000 Is that DDT wallpaper?

02:43:20.000 Yeah.

02:43:21.000 Oh my god.

02:43:22.000 Look at that.

02:43:23.000 Containing DDT as the active insecticide.

02:43:27.000 Genuine cedar wood made into wallpaper.

02:43:31.000 So these people made DDT closet wallpaper with genuine cedar wood. 0.99

02:43:38.000 Well, the other thing is, even the chemicals that they put in the furniture, there's a big thing now to remove because it's calming the fucking children. 0.96

02:43:45.000 Do you know that rugs and furniture actually will release chemicals into the air in your house? 0.98

02:43:53.000 Look at this.

02:43:53.000 Protect your children against disease-carrying insects.

02:43:57.000 DDT, children's room wallpaper. 1.00

02:43:59.000 How many kids got cancer from that shit? 1.00

02:44:01.000 Fucking crazy fucking shit. 1.00

02:44:03.000 That is so insane. 1.00

02:44:05.000 Kills insects, mosquitoes, flies, ants, and you.

02:44:10.000 You know, one of the biggest ways that toxins enter the body is not by walking around the streets of LA or New York and breathing in the pollution. 1.00

02:44:20.000 It's the fucking home. 0.99

02:44:22.000 The amount of chemicals that are in the fucking home, and they talk about that in Merchants of Doubt. 1.00

02:44:28.000 The chemicals in the furniture, the chemicals in the clothes, the chemicals in the fucking diapers, the chemicals in everything, in the plastic... 1.00

02:44:35.000 It's chemicals, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals. 1.00

02:44:37.000 You're bombarding your fucking child with fucking dozens and dozens of chemicals every fucking day. 1.00

02:44:44.000 And while that child's immune system is developing, and then you're feeding it pesticides, you're feeding it this fucking animal that's been tortured its whole life and fed fucking steroids and hormones. 1.00

02:44:56.000 And you're wondering why these kids are coming out. 1.00

02:44:59.000 And they're so fucked because it's... 0.99

02:45:01.000 When they're getting into their teens, it's because all of that shit's taking a toll, not just physically, but psychologically. 1.00

02:45:13.000 There's so much other shit they're doing, too, to the food, putting... 0.99

02:45:18.000 There's an epicyte, you know, that they put in the corn and the soy now, and it's fucking... 0.99

02:45:23.000 It was done by this company in LA, and they were... 1.00

02:45:27.000 Down in California somewhere, epicyte, E-P-I-C-Y-T-E. And it fucks with the sexual reproduction organs of fetuses and children and all kinds of shit. 0.99

02:45:38.000 They're conducting, like, fucking mad science on human beings right now. 1.00

02:45:43.000 What the fuck is going on? 1.00

02:45:44.000 Just for profit. 0.99

02:45:45.000 Even in Hawaii, and I gotta tell you, I have friends that are out there and they did organic farming. 0.97

02:45:51.000 Do you know that all the world's seed banks right now for GMO are fucking grown in Hawaii? 0.96

02:45:57.000 Why? 0.98

02:45:58.000 Because it's a closed...

02:46:01.000 Ecosystem.

02:46:02.000 It's closed off from everywhere else, so there's no other factors. 0.99

02:46:05.000 So they go and they spray motherfucking chemtrails in the air that come down onto the fucking ground and they can, for instance, and I... Wait a minute. 0.99

02:46:15.000 What do they do?

02:46:16.000 They're spraying...

02:46:17.000 They're aerosol spraying the crops.

02:46:19.000 Right.

02:46:19.000 So they aerosol spray them with some sort of pesticide?

02:46:24.000 Yeah, and they do aluminum, barium, strontium.

02:46:27.000 Now, I'm going to tell you, I have friends that actually are doing this.

02:46:31.000 They were organic farmers and had to give up their farm.

02:46:34.000 And what they do is they're making the soil so acidic, the pH, that nothing will grow except for genetically modified seeds that have been Genetically modified to resist aluminum and resist all this other stuff.

02:46:50.000 Why are they spraying aluminum?

02:46:52.000 Where's that coming from?

02:46:53.000 It makes the soil very acidic.

02:46:57.000 It changes the pH.

02:46:58.000 I think aluminum has the greatest change to the soil.

02:47:03.000 And what's the benefit of them doing that?

02:47:05.000 Because then they can control the food supply.

02:47:07.000 Because if you don't buy the GMO seeds, the organic farmers are going out of business in Hawaii.

02:47:13.000 And this ain't no...

02:47:14.000 Wait a minute.

02:47:14.000 So you're saying that they're spraying things out of the sky that poison the ground so that only GMO farmers can grow crops there?

02:47:25.000 Right.

02:47:26.000 Is that proven?

02:47:27.000 That's what's going on in Hawaii.

02:47:28.000 That sounds crazy, though.

02:47:29.000 That sounds so crazy.

02:47:30.000 Here's the thing.

02:47:31.000 And I'm not saying they're going like some of these other chemtrail people, 35,000, they're spraying all the cities.

02:47:37.000 I'm saying they're coming in and spraying chemicals on the ground.

02:47:42.000 But they're not doing it as a pesticide.

02:47:45.000 You're saying they're doing it as a grand conspiracy to make the ground infertile for anything other than GMO crops.

02:47:50.000 Did you ever read Monsanto's...

02:47:51.000 Did you ever see the world according to Monsanto?

02:47:53.000 Yes.

02:47:54.000 Okay, so what do they say?

02:47:55.000 We want to control the world's food supply from seed to farm to table all the way through.

02:48:03.000 We want to control the...

02:48:04.000 So how do they do that?

02:48:06.000 How do they actually make that happen?

02:48:09.000 Right.

02:48:09.000 And I see it happening to farmers in Hawaii and friends of mine.

02:48:14.000 I just did Iron Man out there.

02:48:16.000 What do you see happening? 0.98

02:48:17.000 Because what they're doing, the organic papaya farmers have had to all go either give up their farm or switch to GMO papaya because none of their shit is growing. 0.96

02:48:32.000 But is that because of depletion of the soil? 0.99

02:48:34.000 No, but they say that they're spraying the fucking chemicals on the soil. 0.98

02:48:40.000 But do you know how much they'd have to spray on the soil to make it infertile? 0.98

02:48:44.000 I mean, it seems to me it's a much more likely candidate to the same issues that we're having in this country with monocrops, that they're just depleting their soil because they're constantly growing on it.

02:48:53.000 No, but these guys are doing organic...

02:48:55.000 I had to study chemtrails.

02:48:56.000 I had to study chemtrails for quite a while because I was doing a television show on them. 1.00

02:49:00.000 And one of the things that I found, there's a lot of malarkey in this shit. 0.99

02:49:05.000 And one of the things that they find is they're like, oh, they're spraying aluminum. 0.99

02:49:09.000 And then when they do samples of the water, they find aluminum in the water.

02:49:13.000 No, they're doing samples of sludge.

02:49:16.000 They're doing samples of water with dirt.

02:49:19.000 Do you know what one of the most common metals you'll ever find on Earth is?

02:49:23.000 Aluminum.

02:49:23.000 Most dirt has aluminum in it.

02:49:25.000 So when they're testing this water, they're testing it positive for aluminum.

02:49:28.000 What they're doing is they're testing dirt.

02:49:30.000 Dirt tested positive for being dirt.

02:49:32.000 That's what it is.

02:49:33.000 So when they find aluminum, they say, oh my god, they're spraying aluminum.

02:49:36.000 There's no benefit to spraying aluminum on anything.

02:49:39.000 It's never been proven that there's some evil government cabal that wants to spray aluminum on everything, and that's the reason why papayas don't grow right.

02:49:47.000 It's way more likely that these papayas are growing in a place where they've been growing papayas for a long time and they've depleted the soil, especially dealing with soil that's really coming out of a volcano in the first place, right?

02:49:58.000 Well, I mean, I understand that aspect of it, but it's the combination of other chemicals that they're using.

02:50:04.000 And here's the thing.

02:50:06.000 Before these seed banks showed up over there, they never had this problem.

02:50:11.000 Right, but there's also before large-scale agriculture made its way to Hawaii as well, right?

02:50:15.000 So they probably had years and years and years of doing this and getting away with it until the soil started getting depleted.

02:50:28.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:50:40.000 Crops are better and our genetically, you know, modified crops are, you know, they can survive in these harsh climates and you can also add all of our nitrogen and our fertilizers, all our nasty shit to the soil.

02:50:54.000 And everything else around it will die when we spray except for our crops because we've been genetically engineered to resist... 0.61

02:51:06.000 Yeah, glyphosate.

02:51:07.000 That stuff is scary. 0.99

02:51:09.000 That glyphosate shit is anything that kills everything but what you want it to is like, what? 0.99

02:51:14.000 What's it doing to what you want it to? 0.99

02:51:15.000 What happens to that food?

02:51:18.000 Is that stuff out of that food by the time you eat it?

02:51:21.000 I don't think so.

02:51:23.000 I don't think so either. 0.97

02:51:24.000 I mean, when they're putting it in the seed and it comes out in the leaves and the bugs eat the shit and it blows their stomach up.

02:51:30.000 There's a great documentary on it called What's With Wheat where they try to break down why wheat all of a sudden became a huge problem in the American diet, whereas in the early 1900s it was nothing.

02:51:39.000 And it was a slow genetic modification where they started changing the weed itself.

02:51:45.000 And breeding it to make higher yields so it's got more complex glutens in it.

02:51:50.000 But then on top of that, it's the glyphosate.

02:51:52.000 The glyphosate breaks down your gut barrier.

02:51:56.000 So people get leaky gut and the rest of the issues.

02:52:00.000 It kills the bacteria.

02:52:01.000 I mean, this is what they're trying to do.

02:52:02.000 They're trying to kill bacteria. 0.98

02:52:03.000 But they don't realize your body's made out of bacteria.

02:52:06.000 Your body's an ecosystem of bacteria.

02:52:09.000 The problem with the whole government is evil thing is they're just greedy.

02:52:15.000 They're evil because they're greedy.

02:52:17.000 Right.

02:52:18.000 But see, here's the thing, and you saw The World According to Monsanto, and it's this revolving door policy, how they come out of Monsanto, or even what he was doing in Rumsfeld when he was the CEO of Searle.

02:52:31.000 So they get into the government, they pass legislation, and then they go back to the corporations to reap the benefits of the laws that they passed.

02:52:39.000 So you have a lot of that going on. 0.99

02:52:41.000 So I think, you know, whether or not shit could really be what the fuck motherfuckers are saying it is in Hawaii or anywhere else, the truth is going to possibly come out eventually or maybe not. 0.99

02:52:55.000 But me personally, I tend to... 1.00

02:52:59.000 Try to stick to locally farmed, organic.

02:53:03.000 Like I go to the farmers markets.

02:53:05.000 How do you get it in New York then?

02:53:06.000 There's farmers markets.

02:53:06.000 Get it from upstate?

02:53:08.000 Yeah, they come into the city. 0.98

02:53:12.000 I mean, I'm not going to bullshit. 1.00

02:53:15.000 I go to fucking a health food store and eat shit that's out of season because I like my fucking broccoli and kale or whatever the fuck and some fruit or whatever, but... 1.00

02:53:28.000 How do they grow that stuff? 1.00

02:53:29.000 It's shipped in from Cali and Florida.

02:53:33.000 I mean, you know, it's not the best, but hey, when you take into equation the fact that I've eliminated the other foods that use the highest amount of fossil fuels to grow the crops and everything else that's involved with producing the huge,

02:53:50.000 you know, these farms that are...

02:53:54.000 These animal agriculture systems and the amount of fossil fuels. 1.00

02:53:58.000 I mean, I have motherfuckers writing to me, you take a fucking plane to go on tour, fuck you. 1.00

02:54:02.000 Well, that's the thing we were talking about earlier. 1.00

02:54:04.000 They try to find fault in everything.

02:54:08.000 It's true, though. 0.82

02:54:09.000 We all do.

02:54:10.000 We both poison the sky a little bit when we fly.

02:54:15.000 Hey, you know...

02:54:18.000 I'll take the hit, man.

02:54:19.000 I'm guilty.

02:54:20.000 It's the world we live in.

02:54:20.000 I mean, it's a real problem.

02:54:22.000 I mean, it's one of the things they found after September 11th with the lack of plane fights that changed the Earth's temperature. 0.99

02:54:28.000 I mean, it's kind of fucking nuts, man. 0.99

02:54:30.000 Wow. 0.99

02:54:30.000 I never heard that. 0.99

02:54:32.000 That's crazy.

02:54:33.000 Yeah.

02:54:33.000 Also, the cloud cover that's created by contrails.

02:54:36.000 That cools the Earth down a little bit.

02:54:39.000 It's very interesting.

02:54:40.000 Well, they've admitted to... 0.98

02:54:41.000 The government has actually admitted to a program to try to, you know, spray and shit to try to... 0.99

02:54:47.000 Cool the Earth's... 0.95

02:54:49.000 Well, they've admitted to experimenting with weather manipulation and to having strategies for dealing with it, whether it is for dealing with hostile foreign governments where you're trying to starve them out or trying to put rain.

02:55:04.000 I mean, they've been cloud seeding forever.

02:55:06.000 We have a Space Force now. 0.98

02:55:07.000 Did you see the fucking video that guys made on Space Force? 0.99

02:55:11.000 No. 0.99

02:55:11.000 What is it? 0.99

02:55:12.000 Is it funny? 0.98

02:55:12.000 It's fucking hilarious. 0.98

02:55:15.000 It's on YouTube, the spoof on Trump's Space Force. 0.98

02:55:20.000 But here's the thing.

02:55:23.000 It's like trying to patch a shotgun wound with a Band-Aid.

02:55:27.000 Let's reduce the fossil fuel. 0.99

02:55:29.000 If you want to fucking cool the Earth and everything and save the fucking oceans and all the rest of the shit, why don't we... 0.99

02:55:38.000 Check how the fuck we live our lives, but everybody wants to pass the buck and say, oh, well, why should I do it? 1.00

02:55:46.000 You know, let the next motherfucker do it. 1.00

02:55:47.000 But, you know, you, by what you put in your card and how you live your life, you have fucking, how many people in America? 1.00

02:55:55.000 200, how many? 1.00

02:55:56.000 300 million. 1.00

02:55:56.000 300 fucking million motherfuckers passing the buck along. 1.00

02:55:59.000 You're not getting anywhere. 1.00

02:56:01.000 Yeah, and China's how many billion in India and it's like they're not fucking They're not gonna stop fucking doing what they're doing. 0.97

02:56:09.000 No, no, they're not and it's Again, it's like what we were talking about with all the other aspects of gigantic culture. 0.95

02:56:17.000 There's so many moving pieces It's so it's so difficult because we're we're talking about these pieces that have been in place for decades and so to try to make corrections now And some people are.

02:56:28.000 They are going to organic farms.

02:56:30.000 They are going to raising their own food and having everything be local.

02:56:35.000 And that's definitely better.

02:56:36.000 The real problem, it seems to me, is overpopulation.

02:56:40.000 The real problem is when you jam...

02:56:42.000 You know, Los Angeles is a perfect example.

02:56:45.000 There's 200 million people just here.

02:56:47.000 Just in LA. 200 million?

02:56:49.000 Excuse me, 20 million.

02:56:50.000 Oh, okay.

02:56:50.000 I was like, wow.

02:56:51.000 What? 0.99

02:56:52.000 That's ridiculous. 0.81

02:56:54.000 20 million people just here, and then there's Orange County, which has more people. 0.50

02:56:57.000 San Diego has more people.

02:56:58.000 As you get north, there's more people in San Francisco. 0.99

02:57:01.000 Shit, you got more people than New York? 1.00

02:57:01.000 Because we got like eight and a half fucking million in New York. 1.00

02:57:04.000 Yeah, there's more people here. 0.99

02:57:05.000 There's more people in California.

02:57:07.000 Just in LA. There's more people in Los Angeles than there is in all of Australia.

02:57:11.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:57:12.000 Just Los Angeles. 1.00

02:57:14.000 That's insane.

02:57:14.000 It's insane.

02:57:15.000 So there's so many people and no one's grown anything other than weed.

02:57:18.000 Yeah.

02:57:19.000 It's just weeds being grown here and that's it.

02:57:21.000 So all the food is being shipped in from everywhere else.

02:57:23.000 And so you've got fossil fuels being used. 0.98

02:57:26.000 Even in Hawaii, you pay more in Hawaii for a fucking pineapple than you do on the mainland. 0.99

02:57:32.000 Isn't that crazy? 1.00

02:57:32.000 Dude, it's fucking insane. 1.00

02:57:34.000 You ever been there, how expensive fucking food is? 1.00

02:57:37.000 Yeah, everything's very expensive. 1.00

02:57:38.000 It's fucking insane. 0.92

02:57:39.000 Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful place though, and that's why people are willing to take that hit. 0.98

02:57:43.000 We live in a place that humans like yourself and myself and people that are alive today, we are stuck in a system that was created many, many decades ago.

02:57:54.000 It was put into place.

02:57:56.000 Many decades ago, and it wasn't put into place with our interest in mind.

02:57:59.000 It was put into place with the interest in mind of profit.

02:58:02.000 And it was also to deal with, to accommodate millions and millions of people that are all jammed into one place where no one's growing any food.

02:58:09.000 It's a very unnatural way to live. 0.99

02:58:11.000 You know, they started, like, coming down on all the people fucking growing shit on their front lawns and their backyards now. 0.99

02:58:18.000 Because urban organic farming, you know, I'm in touch with a lot of those people. 0.99

02:58:23.000 As a matter of fact, there's one in New York City.

02:58:25.000 I ride from New York City out to, like, Long Island, Jones Beach and all that.

02:58:29.000 And I pass in Far Rockaway.

02:58:32.000 There's a guy that he's doing, like, a big urban farm in this thing, you know, in this crop of land.

02:58:42.000 The urban farming is becoming a big thing.

02:58:45.000 There was one guy on ABC and he walked home from work every night and it was 5 miles.

02:58:53.000 African-American guy and he's trying to lose weight and get healthy.

02:58:56.000 Well, guess what? 0.99

02:58:56.000 Every motherfucking night, all he passed was KFC, this, that, the other thing, 7-Eleven. 0.99

02:59:01.000 He could not buy a fucking piece of fruit or a fucking apple in any of those fucking places. 1.00

02:59:07.000 None. 1.00

02:59:08.000 So then they said, well, how the fuck are we going to get food if we ain't got no car and we can't go seven, ten miles out of town to the supermarket?

02:59:16.000 So now urban organic farming is becoming a big thing where they're showing these people.

02:59:21.000 And now they're starting to crack down. 0.99

02:59:23.000 The cities are trying to crack down on these people that are growing fucking food. 1.00

02:59:28.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

02:59:29.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99

02:59:30.000 I had Ron Finley on this podcast, and he's got a similar program in South Central, and he helps these kids and people that live there use vacant lots, use medians, use all these areas. 0.99

02:59:41.000 They're doing it in Detroit, too.

02:59:42.000 Yeah, it's fantastic.

02:59:44.000 Grow food. 1.00

02:59:45.000 Grow fucking food. 1.00

02:59:46.000 Food would be free. 1.00

02:59:47.000 Grow it on patches of land.

02:59:49.000 I mean, what would be ideal is if every community, instead of just having a house jammed next to a house, jammed next to a house, every community have one community lot, and that community lot we all grow our food in.

03:00:01.000 Not hard to do. 0.92

03:00:02.000 I mean, even in a fucking closet, they're showing how to do... 0.98

03:00:05.000 They had a shipping container in New York, and it was a demonstration, and they put it on Lafayette Street in Houston, and it was a shipping container. 0.99

03:00:18.000 And when you walked in there, it was a fucking farm. 0.99

03:00:22.000 And I forget how many thousand pounds of fucking organic produce that that fucking farm inside that shipping container was able to grow. 1.00

03:00:31.000 But it's insane. 0.99

03:00:33.000 You know, and that's with artificial light, but you could do that with real light.

03:00:37.000 I mean, the real streets that you see everywhere you go.

03:00:42.000 Where concrete is, it could be dirt.

03:00:44.000 It is possible that we could cordon off a small section of every community and have a community garden.

03:00:51.000 It would also be good for the community in terms of people interacting with each other and feeling like they're a part of something and taking responsibility.

03:01:01.000 Right.

03:01:02.000 Taking care of something.

03:01:03.000 Getting your hands in the dirt, too, man.

03:01:06.000 That's one of the programs we did in this documentary. 1.00

03:01:10.000 We had the guys going to organic farms and getting their hands in the dirt and seeing people just as a disconnect between Farmers, man, that's a fucking hard-ass fucking job. 1.00

03:01:25.000 It's a fucking hard-ass job. 1.00

03:01:26.000 It's fucking hard, man. 1.00

03:01:27.000 We don't show the appreciation. 0.99

03:01:30.000 And I think, who was the one black activist who used to run the marathons and shit? 0.98

03:01:36.000 Forget his name, in the 60s. 0.99

03:01:38.000 Dick Gregory? 0.99

03:01:39.000 Dick fucking Gregory, man. 1.00

03:01:41.000 He always talked about growing your own fucking food and... 1.00

03:01:46.000 Do you know Dick Gregory's the guy who brought the Zapruder film to television? 0.99

03:01:50.000 The Zapruder film of Kennedy being assassinated.

03:01:52.000 No!

03:01:52.000 It looks like he's being shot from the front.

03:01:54.000 What?

03:01:55.000 Yes.

03:01:55.000 Dick Gregory brought that to the Geraldo Rivera show.

03:01:59.000 Wow.

03:01:59.000 Eight years after the assassination.

03:02:02.000 It might have been more than eight.

03:02:03.000 It might have been more. 1.00

03:02:05.000 You know a lot of shit. 1.00

03:02:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:02:07.000 It might have been ten years after the assassination.

03:02:09.000 Something crazy.

03:02:10.000 But people didn't see Kennedy get assassinated until many, many, many years after.

03:02:17.000 When this guy Zapruder, who was there on the spot, was filming.

03:02:20.000 They took his film and he sold it to Time Life magazine.

03:02:25.000 They used stills of it and then they didn't show it.

03:02:29.000 Twelve years.

03:02:30.000 Fuck. 1.00

03:02:30.000 Twelve years later. 1.00

03:02:31.000 75. Wow.

03:02:33.000 So in 75, on the Geraldo Rivera show, they premiered the Zapruder film footage of the assassination of President Kennedy from like fucking, you know, 20 yards away. 0.96

03:02:42.000 He was right there. 0.98

03:02:43.000 That's insane.

03:02:43.000 And you see Kennedy's head go back into the left.

03:02:46.000 You see the spray of blood and you're like, what?

03:02:49.000 So did they show that it was more than one...

03:02:52.000 They can't tell for sure.

03:02:54.000 And there's a lot of speculation because there's so many...

03:02:57.000 I mean, it's black and white and it was shaky back then.

03:02:59.000 They've since used computers to stabilize the image.

03:03:03.000 But what it looks like...

03:03:05.000 The untrained eye is that he's shot more than once and probably shot from multiple different angles.

03:03:11.000 The reason why they came up with the magic bullet theory was because they had to account for another bullet that didn't hit the president.

03:03:18.000 They had to account for a bullet that ricocheted under an underpass and hit a guy.

03:03:23.000 So yeah, the bullet had to go through two people and it had to leave traces of the bullet behind that weren't missing from the bullet and it had to shatter bone and not distort, which doesn't happen.

03:03:35.000 Yeah.

03:03:35.000 If you know anything about bullets, if you shoot anything, bullets get jacked.

03:03:40.000 They tear up.

03:03:41.000 They bend.

03:03:42.000 They get distorted.

03:03:43.000 It's lead. 0.99

03:03:44.000 You could take fucking lead. 0.99

03:03:45.000 Exactly. 1.00

03:03:46.000 Yeah, even if it's jacketed, it's still going to get fucked up. 0.99

03:03:48.000 It's hitting bones and shattering at a ridiculous speed. 0.99

03:03:51.000 The single bullet theory was also created by Arlen Specter and those fucking guys from the Warren Commission Report. 1.00

03:03:57.000 Bunch of evil assholes. 1.00

03:03:58.000 There's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton. 1.00

03:04:02.000 David Lifton was an accountant who went over the Warren Commission report, step by step, every step of the way, and found all these contradictions in the reportings. 0.99

03:04:11.000 Like, this is a bullshit document. 0.99

03:04:12.000 What they were trying to do was just wrap this bitch up nice and tight. 1.00

03:04:16.000 They weren't trying to solve the crime. 0.99

03:04:17.000 They were trying to wrap this thing up tight, and the most ridiculous aspect of it is the magic bullet theory. 0.89

03:04:23.000 But before anybody saw the Zapruder film, it didn't look that ridiculous. 0.84

03:04:26.000 Right. 0.73

03:04:27.000 We heard what we were told.

03:04:28.000 Kennedy got shot by Oswald, and then Jack Ruby shot Oswald.

03:04:32.000 Case closed.

03:04:33.000 Very convenient.

03:04:34.000 Very convenient. 0.92

03:04:34.000 The whole thing is ridiculous. 0.92

03:04:36.000 Yeah. 0.82

03:04:36.000 I don't know why they killed him, but it's very likely that there was quite a few people involved, and not just Lee Harvey Oswald. 0.82

03:04:43.000 He was probably involved, too.

03:04:44.000 Well, you know that he passed a resolution. 0.99

03:04:46.000 He was fucking with the Federal Reserve. 0.99

03:04:49.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

03:04:51.000 What was the...

03:04:55.000 Well, there's a lot of problems.

03:04:57.000 The Bay of Pigs.

03:04:57.000 Bay of Pigs.

03:04:58.000 Yeah.

03:04:59.000 He wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve.

03:05:02.000 He wanted to get rid of the CIA. He started printing up currency backed by – he wanted to go back to the gold-silver standard.

03:05:09.000 He started printing up notes. 0.97

03:05:12.000 Fucking, if you could find those notes from when he was in, silver certificates. 0.99

03:05:16.000 And he said, why are private banks controlling our money? 0.99

03:05:20.000 The Federal Reserve.

03:05:21.000 It wasn't, I think, one of the acts that George Bush Jr. passed before he left office.

03:05:28.000 There it is.

03:05:28.000 Executive Order 11110. To give the printing of the money back to the fucking, take it away from the Federal Reserve and Yeah, they whacked him just a couple months later.

03:05:38.000 And give it back to the secretary. 0.99

03:05:40.000 His father said that they're gonna kill you for this. 0.98

03:05:43.000 His father told him that. 0.98

03:05:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:05:45.000 You fuck with them bankers, man. 1.00

03:05:47.000 It's true. 1.00

03:05:48.000 It comes back to power.

03:05:51.000 It's not about a conspiracy.

03:05:53.000 It's about, yo, it's about they want the ultimate greed.

03:05:57.000 It's the ultimate greed.

03:05:59.000 We control everything.

03:06:00.000 Everything.

03:06:01.000 Well, especially back then.

03:06:02.000 I mean, the amount of accountability that politicians had back then, you can get away with a lot.

03:06:08.000 There was a lot of wiggle room.

03:06:10.000 And, you know, it's most likely that somebody other than just Lee Harvey Oswald, and he probably had something to do with it, too.

03:06:17.000 Yeah.

03:06:18.000 I mean, he was probably one of the pieces.

03:06:20.000 Manchurian candidates, man.

03:06:21.000 Who knows?

03:06:21.000 They grab these guys.

03:06:23.000 They fucking... 1.00

03:06:23.000 Who knows does what with them fucking... 1.00

03:06:26.000 You know, they're still doing it, I believe, to this day. 1.00

03:06:29.000 You know, a lot of these fucking... 1.00

03:06:33.000 Motherfuckers that's trying to fucking... 1.00

03:06:35.000 Shoe bombers and this fucking clown and this... 1.00

03:06:38.000 You know, there's so much shit going on. 1.00

03:06:41.000 Like, even the shoe bomber. 1.00

03:06:42.000 Like, who... 0.99

03:06:43.000 How the fuck did he get on a plane with no passport? 0.99

03:06:45.000 You know? 1.00

03:06:46.000 It's like, there's so much shit to just go... 1.00

03:06:49.000 Well, you remember that guy that they busted in Dallas? 0.99

03:06:52.000 He was a guy that they'd set up. 0.56

03:06:55.000 They set him up to be an Islamic terrorist. 0.99

03:06:58.000 They trained him. 0.87

03:07:00.000 They gave him the weapon.

03:07:01.000 And then as he was trying to detonate the weapon, they arrested him.

03:07:05.000 Yeah.

03:07:05.000 It's like, you guys talked him into doing this.

03:07:07.000 You gave him the bombs.

03:07:09.000 And then you arrested him.

03:07:11.000 Yeah.

03:07:11.000 Like, what would he have done if you guys weren't even there?

03:07:14.000 Would he have done anything?

03:07:15.000 They thought that this guy was a person who was suspicious, so they literally set up and entrapped him.

03:07:22.000 Entrapment.

03:07:22.000 It's kind of crazy.

03:07:23.000 It's going on a lot, man. 1.00

03:07:25.000 It's fucking... 1.00

03:07:27.000 We don't even know the shit that's going on behind the walls in the fucking offices, man. 1.00

03:07:33.000 It would fucking scare the fucking bejesus out of you if you knew what the fuck was what these people's minds had. 1.00

03:07:45.000 Well, you get accustomed to making rationalizations that will cost people their lives. 0.99

03:07:49.000 And I think anybody that can send a drone to shoot down an apartment building because of metadata, you know, you found a metadata that seems to indicate that the cell phone of a certain criminal is on the 14th floor. 0.99

03:08:01.000 Let the fucking Hellfire missiles fly, baby. 1.00

03:08:03.000 I mean, that's decisions that they make at the highest level of government. 1.00

03:08:08.000 Sitting there completely fucking disconnected from everything. 0.63

03:08:14.000 If you talk to someone from the CIA, they tell you it's all lawyers who make those decisions too. 0.98

03:08:18.000 Lawyers do all the calculations and they go, yeah, you can do it. 0.79

03:08:22.000 Crazy. 0.99

03:08:24.000 Crazy, man.

03:08:25.000 Dude, we just did three hours.

03:08:27.000 Wow, did we?

03:08:27.000 Yeah, flew by.

03:08:28.000 Well, you know what they say, how do you know when a lawyer's lying? 1.00

03:08:31.000 His fucking lips are moving. 1.00

03:08:34.000 Hey, I got a good lawyer though, let me tell you. 1.00

03:08:37.000 There's got to be good lawyers.

03:08:37.000 There is.

03:08:38.000 There's good people in all walks of life.

03:08:40.000 There's good people.

03:08:40.000 Peter Nussbaum, I love you.

03:08:41.000 Shout out to Peter Nussbaum.

03:08:42.000 Peter Nussbaum, my lawyer.

03:08:44.000 He's not a criminal attorney.

03:08:46.000 So, you coming to the fights this weekend?

03:08:48.000 I was invited. 0.99

03:08:49.000 I was like, hopefully we get along and have a fucking dope conversation. 1.00

03:08:52.000 We did. 1.00

03:08:53.000 We got along.

03:08:53.000 It was fun.

03:08:54.000 Dude, I have massive respect. 1.00

03:08:55.000 You know, Brian's a crazy motherfucker. 1.00

03:08:57.000 I tell a story. 1.00

03:08:58.000 You know, that whole school down there was a fun.

03:09:01.000 I wanted to tell a story about Brian.

03:09:03.000 Brian Callum?

03:09:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:09:05.000 Fucking... 1.00

03:09:05.000 He's hilarious. 1.00

03:09:06.000 He's hilarious.

03:09:07.000 So, I used to take...

03:09:08.000 Tony Ortiz is one of the senior students of Master Choi.

03:09:13.000 Another guy, we'll call him Chuck, but he's with the government now. 1.00

03:09:16.000 He's a fucking bad motherfucker. 1.00

03:09:19.000 So, they always used to go around and want to fight bouncers and all this shit. 1.00

03:09:24.000 That was what they did. 0.99

03:09:25.000 They would fucking fight the biggest... 1.00

03:09:28.000 Scariest looking motherfuckers and just destroyed him. 1.00

03:09:32.000 So, Blue worked... 1.00

03:09:33.000 I said his name, sorry.

03:09:35.000 My friend worked with Cro-Mags and stuff.

03:09:37.000 We took him out security with us in case we had problems or whatever.

03:09:41.000 So, it was like...

03:09:42.000 Everything always went smooth.

03:09:44.000 So, one time...

03:09:45.000 I used to work at all the underground hip-hop clubs in New York.

03:09:49.000 So, my friend was doing a party. 1.00

03:09:51.000 And it was all fucking deep Brooklyn heads, fucking like homeboys and shit. 1.00

03:09:56.000 Like the real deal, this hip-hop club. 1.00

03:09:58.000 And I take Brian, another dude from the school, and Tony.

03:10:01.000 And we go over there. 0.99

03:10:03.000 And Brian is in the middle of the fucking dance floor. 1.00

03:10:06.000 Doing the funky fucking white boy nerd dance. 1.00

03:10:10.000 And all these fucking... 1.00

03:10:11.000 And the floor just opens up in these fucking... 1.00

03:10:14.000 Black fucking hip-hop crazy fucking homeboys are like, yo, look at this motherfucking white boy. 1.00

03:10:20.000 Like, it's bugging. 1.00

03:10:21.000 And he don't give a fuck. 1.00

03:10:22.000 He's seriously like a fucking pisser to roll with. 1.00

03:10:27.000 So then I'm like, yo, I gotta go. 1.00

03:10:31.000 But listen, man, I know what y'all motherfuckers do. 1.00

03:10:34.000 Don't start no shit. 1.00

03:10:36.000 Please. 0.99

03:10:37.000 It's my friend's club. 0.99

03:10:38.000 So I get home, go to sleep, wake up the next day, get a fucking phone call. 1.00

03:10:42.000 Yo! 1.00

03:10:44.000 He didn't know that they were with me. 0.99

03:10:46.000 He's like, yo, there was these three fucking karate experts in the club last night and they beat up all my fucking bouncers, dude. 1.00

03:10:53.000 It was fucking crazy. 0.99

03:10:55.000 And one bouncer walked up and started some shit with Tony was trying to talk to a girl or whatever. 0.99

03:11:02.000 And then this guy, he's all on the juice, rips off his shirt like, ah! 0.99

03:11:07.000 Fucking Tony throws a kick, fucking dislocates the guy's fucking kneecap, and then the melee just ensued, and it was just constant, these fucking huge bouncers coming at him, and Brian's like, 0.99

03:11:23.000 bah, bah, bah, fucking, Brian could fight. 1.00

03:11:25.000 Brian is, you know, he's a comedian, but he could throw down. 1.00

03:11:32.000 And then Brian just told me this, because I didn't hear the other part.

03:11:35.000 He goes, yeah. 0.99

03:11:36.000 Then all of a sudden, I'm fucking whacking these dudes and us, we're fighting these guys. 1.00

03:11:41.000 And then this fucking gigantic motherfucker, like... 1.00

03:11:45.000 I was just like a little fucking baby in his arms, lifts me up and carries me out the fucking door and throws me across this car. 1.00

03:11:54.000 And I look and I turn around and I'm ready to go and then Brian says and I look and it's this fucking crazy white dude with a fucking scar. 1.00

03:12:05.000 From one end of his face down his throat and he points at Brian and goes, don't even think about it. 0.99

03:12:12.000 And like, Brian was like, yo.

03:12:14.000 But my friend called me up the next day. 1.00

03:12:15.000 He's like, these motherfuckers. 1.00

03:12:17.000 And I call him up and I'm like, Brian, the fuck did you do, man? 1.00

03:12:20.000 I told you guys to fucking keep chill. 1.00

03:12:22.000 He's like, yo, these bouncers were assholes. 1.00

03:12:25.000 You know, he's a character. 0.99

03:12:28.000 Like I said, I was at his first comedy show ever.

03:12:31.000 He lived a wilder life in his young days.

03:12:34.000 Yeah.

03:12:34.000 I met him after all that stuff.

03:12:36.000 I met him when he was more calm.

03:12:37.000 I met him in the 90s.

03:12:39.000 Yeah.

03:12:39.000 Yeah, they were in big time.

03:12:41.000 Master Choi was all about fucking getting out there and fucking contact. 0.99

03:12:47.000 There was a lot of martial arts coaches, instructors that wanted you to get in street fights. 1.00

03:12:52.000 Yeah.

03:12:52.000 Because you would practice.

03:12:54.000 Because, like, street fights would show you how things would work in the real world. 0.98

03:12:57.000 And the more you did it, the more you understood urgency, closing the distance, you know, delivering the first strike, all that kind of shit. 0.85

03:13:04.000 Like, people were hesitant. 0.98

03:13:05.000 Because in sparring, you always hold back.

03:13:07.000 So, like, you know, I knew many martial arts structures.

03:13:10.000 You come from a Taekwondo background, right?

03:13:12.000 Yeah, that's what started, yeah.

03:13:13.000 Because Brian told me that about you. 1.00

03:13:14.000 He goes, yo, that guy kicks like a fucking horse and shit. 1.00

03:13:18.000 Because I would see you on Fear Factor. 1.00

03:13:23.000 Were you on something before that, too?

03:13:24.000 News Radio?

03:13:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:13:27.000 And he's like, yeah, I know him.

03:13:29.000 That's my dude, man. 0.99

03:13:31.000 He's like, yo, you would fucking bend the bag in half. 0.95

03:13:35.000 So, you know, respect for that. 0.97

03:13:40.000 You know, from... 1.00

03:13:42.000 I was like, that's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

03:13:44.000 Listen, we're going to have some fun this weekend. 0.99

03:13:46.000 The fight's going to be awesome.

03:13:48.000 It's a sick card.

03:13:49.000 Saturday night at the Staples Center.

03:13:51.000 You know I've been following the UFC since day one. 0.99

03:13:54.000 And originally, when that first came around, it was the Gracies that put a fucking... 1.00

03:13:59.000 They took out an ad in karate magazines. 0.98

03:14:03.000 And they said, we will pay anybody $100,000 if they can beat us.

03:14:08.000 That's...

03:14:09.000 I saw UFC 1 with Remco, Pardo.

03:14:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:14:13.000 Dude, I've been watching that shit since day one. 1.00

03:14:16.000 Have you been to a live one? 1.00

03:14:18.000 No.

03:14:18.000 Oh, perfect.

03:14:19.000 I went to Douglas Crosby, who was a judge.

03:14:23.000 Yeah, I know him very well.

03:14:24.000 Doug's my man.

03:14:26.000 Doug worked with the Cro-Mags. 1.00

03:14:28.000 Took me to some fights and stuff in Jersey.

03:14:31.000 Actually, I did go to a live one.

03:14:34.000 Jake from Rocks Off took me to the UFC when it was in Newark. 0.99

03:14:38.000 And there was fucking fights breaking out. 0.98

03:14:41.000 What year was this? 0.99

03:14:42.000 This was probably like four or five years ago.

03:14:44.000 Oh, okay.

03:14:45.000 In Newark.

03:14:47.000 They had a UFC in Newark and I went to that.

03:14:52.000 There was a fight on the main floor that was the best fight of the night. 0.99

03:14:56.000 These two fucking guys just started... 0.99

03:14:58.000 And then when you left, everyone was like, yo, come to my fucking MMA school. 1.00

03:15:03.000 Every fucking Mama Luke got a school and a flyer. 1.00

03:15:07.000 Yeah, that's how it is. 0.99

03:15:08.000 I love the fights.

03:15:10.000 I've been watching the boxing matches since the 70s, all the super fights. 0.99

03:15:14.000 Fucking Muhammad Ali and Ken Norton and fucking, what was the great one? 0.99

03:15:19.000 Hagler Hearns. 1.00

03:15:20.000 Yeah.

03:15:21.000 Yeah.

03:15:22.000 I'm trying to get Marvin Hagler on the podcast. 1.00

03:15:24.000 Fuck. 1.00

03:15:25.000 You know, he's like the only guy that retired clean. 1.00

03:15:27.000 He's like, I'm good.

03:15:28.000 It's over.

03:15:29.000 Lost to Sugar Ray Leonard.

03:15:30.000 Lost a decision that a lot of people thought he should have won.

03:15:32.000 Yeah, I saw that fight.

03:15:34.000 He's like this.

03:15:35.000 Done.

03:15:36.000 Walked away.

03:15:36.000 No one ever done that.

03:15:37.000 Tommy the Hitman Hearns.

03:15:39.000 Yeah.

03:15:39.000 Boxing used to be like...

03:15:41.000 You know, I just posted a picture of Mike Tyson, Jake LaMotta, and fucking Graziano on my Instagram. 0.98

03:15:49.000 Like those three. 0.94

03:15:51.000 Because my father boxed at Gramercy Gym, which was run by Custom Auto, which they knocked it down.

03:15:56.000 It was right near the Palladium and all that.

03:15:59.000 So you had Julian's Billiards, which I do a walk-in tour in New York.

03:16:02.000 It's coming out on Fox.

03:16:03.000 Yeah, I know.

03:16:03.000 I've seen that before.

03:16:04.000 You ever come in the city, man, I'll give you a fuck of the three-hour tour. 0.92

03:16:08.000 You ever come to the city, I'll give you a private one, but it's like, it's been all over. 0.99

03:16:11.000 I've been on the Today Show, Sunday Today Show, The Times, fucking, it's like the best underground fucking walk-in tour of crime, music, and history on the Lower East Side. 0.98

03:16:23.000 Wow. 0.98

03:16:24.000 We go by where the Palladium was, where the Clash, September 21st, the cover of the Clash, London Calling was shot there, Paul Simmon on smash and his bass. 0.99

03:16:34.000 He had Julian's Billiards right there, all the fucking pool hall hustlers.

03:16:39.000 And before the Palladium, it was called the Academy of Music, Dizzy Gillespie, everybody played there. 0.96

03:16:45.000 And then up the street from that was Customato's gym called the Gramercy Gym.

03:16:50.000 Wow.

03:16:51.000 And everybody, Floyd Patterson, Ford, out of there.

03:16:54.000 If you pull up pictures of Gramercy Gym, you can see there's a picture, and Floyd Patterson's working the speed bag.

03:17:01.000 And when that closed, I was just walking by one day, and I was with my mom, and she goes, your father, because P.C. Richards took over the space, and they put a plaque, and it said this is where Custom Models Gym, we train, what is it, Jose Torres,

03:17:17.000 the world champions, and all these weight classes.

03:17:20.000 And my mother just goes, oh, your father boxed it.

03:17:23.000 I say, what?

03:17:24.000 And there it is.

03:17:26.000 Look how they spell Gramercy, too.

03:17:28.000 G-R-A. They spelt it wrong.

03:17:30.000 Gramercy.

03:17:31.000 Gramercy.

03:17:32.000 Gramercy.

03:17:33.000 That's crazy.

03:17:34.000 They spelled the name of the gym wrong.

03:17:36.000 Is that Floyd Patterson?

03:17:37.000 I think it is. 1.00

03:17:38.000 Who the fuck is that? 1.00

03:17:38.000 It looks, yeah. 1.00

03:17:39.000 I think it is Floyd Patterson.

03:17:41.000 Wow.

03:17:42.000 Old school.

03:17:43.000 Yeah, so we do this whole thing.

03:17:44.000 We go to...

03:17:46.000 Tony Danza.

03:17:47.000 Wow.

03:17:47.000 Look at that.

03:17:48.000 Yeah, he took some shots, huh?

03:17:49.000 Tony Danza could box. 1.00

03:17:50.000 He could fucking... 0.99

03:17:51.000 I saw some of his fights. 0.99

03:17:52.000 Yeah, he could box.

03:17:53.000 Yeah.

03:17:55.000 Yeah, and then we go by Irving Plaza with John Belushi.

03:17:59.000 That sounds like a lot of fun. 0.99

03:18:00.000 Dude, it's fucking... 0.99

03:18:00.000 Three hours. 0.99

03:18:01.000 Listen, I had these four old Israeli ladies come, right? 1.00

03:18:05.000 And I'm like...

03:18:06.000 And all the tours meet in this area, and they're like, we're here for the tour.

03:18:09.000 I said, I think you'll want the food tour over there.

03:18:12.000 They're like...

03:18:12.000 They show me their tickets.

03:18:14.000 They're like...

03:18:14.000 They're like in their 60s from Israel.

03:18:16.000 They're like, no, we're here for the crime tour, and... 0.99

03:18:20.000 They fucking did the whole three hours. 0.98

03:18:22.000 They're like, that was fascinating. 1.00

03:18:25.000 So in New York, and Steve Lacey just text me, so I'll tell you what the fuck it is. 0.99

03:18:31.000 Hold on here. 0.99

03:18:32.000 You do these on a regular basis, right?

03:18:34.000 Every week when I'm in New York.

03:18:36.000 Every week?

03:18:37.000 Every Sunday.

03:18:39.000 So Steve Lacey just text me. 0.99

03:18:42.000 Where the fuck is it when you need it? 0.99

03:18:44.000 How do you have the time to do all these things? 0.99

03:18:46.000 Dude, man, you know, I get to bed early.

03:18:49.000 Oh, here it is.

03:18:50.000 So if you're in New York City, August 25th, 6.30 on Fox, it's called When New York Rocked.

03:18:57.000 Rocks off, rock and roll history, walking tours.

03:19:00.000 Yeah.

03:19:00.000 Nice.

03:19:01.000 And the press is underneath it. 0.98

03:19:04.000 That's fucking cool. 0.96

03:19:04.000 Yeah, so we go to everywhere. 0.96

03:19:05.000 We go to fucking the Five Points. 0.99

03:19:09.000 And I've had more press. 0.98

03:19:10.000 This is actually old.

03:19:11.000 Do you get a kick out of doing this?

03:19:13.000 Is it fun for you? 0.98

03:19:13.000 I fucking love it. 0.98

03:19:14.000 You do it for fun? 1.00

03:19:14.000 Because every week, and I'll tell you, every week, you run into these motherfuckers on the street from the old days. 1.00

03:19:20.000 And I don't usually... 1.00

03:19:21.000 It's just something about it. 0.97

03:19:23.000 I'll fucking do the tour. 0.98

03:19:24.000 Like, we ran into Mick Jones from The Clash or whoever. 0.99

03:19:30.000 Oh, wow.

03:19:31.000 Dude, we run it and nobody knew because he had a suit on. 0.99

03:19:33.000 I was like, y'all motherfuckers know who that is? 0.98

03:19:35.000 Nobody knew it was Mick Jones. 0.99

03:19:36.000 I said, yo, Mick!

03:19:38.000 Come on.

03:19:38.000 He's like, oh, you know, I was like, listen, I was one of the ones rioting in 81 when you played Bonds.

03:19:44.000 If you go to the video Clash on Broadway, I was there rioting because they oversold the club.

03:19:52.000 And Mayor Koch ordered the promoter and the Clash to do enough shows.

03:19:56.000 It's called the Clash on Broadway on YouTube.

03:19:59.000 And they ordered the Clash to do enough shows.

03:20:02.000 And the promoter sold something like, I think it was Clash.

03:20:06.000 I don't know, something like 20,000 tickets for a venue that held 2,500.

03:20:11.000 So you had close to 20,000 punk rockers show up in Times Square. 0.98

03:20:16.000 The fire department closes the fucking club down, and there's a riot in Times Square. 0.99

03:20:21.000 Now, I'm AWAR at the time. 1.00

03:20:22.000 I'm smashing motherfucking windows. 0.99

03:20:24.000 They stop traffic. 0.99

03:20:25.000 I'm running on cabs. 1.00

03:20:26.000 Fuck you! 1.00

03:20:27.000 And then I start seeing people getting arrested. 1.00

03:20:29.000 I'm like...

03:20:30.000 Let me get the fuck out of here. 0.99

03:20:32.000 It's time to go. 0.99

03:20:34.000 And then Saturday Night Live, I was on that when Fear played.

03:20:38.000 John Belushi used to come to all the punk rock shows.

03:20:41.000 So we go to all the venues and the famous murder spots.

03:20:46.000 I lived in a building with the East Village butcher, Daniel Rakowitz.

03:20:50.000 He chopped up his girlfriend, made soup out of her and fed her to the homeless.

03:20:53.000 I lived in that building.

03:20:55.000 That was 700 East 9th.

03:20:57.000 I squatted in that building.

03:20:59.000 So it's all these famous...

03:21:00.000 The murder of Abe Lieberwald who owns 2nd Avenue Deli.

03:21:04.000 And famous movies.

03:21:06.000 Then we go to the smuggling tunnels of Prohibition. 0.99

03:21:08.000 A lot of shit you saw on Bulwark Empire. 0.95

03:21:11.000 So it's a pretty fascinating tour. 0.99

03:21:15.000 And I always...

03:21:16.000 The first time I did it...

03:21:18.000 And I'll just leave you this.

03:21:19.000 It was really funny because I had...

03:21:21.000 40 people and some of them were from Germany. 0.99

03:21:24.000 So I'm going down and fucking... 0.99

03:21:28.000 We go down to Avenue B and I'm like, yeah, there was a big fucking drug spot here. 0.99

03:21:32.000 So this huge black dude I know, he just got out of prison. 0.99

03:21:36.000 He's like fucking 6'5", keloid scar across his face. 0.99

03:21:40.000 He's like, yo, what's up, man? 1.00

03:21:42.000 What the fuck you doing, man? 0.99

03:21:43.000 What's up? 1.00

03:21:44.000 I ain't seen you in a minute.

03:21:45.000 I was like, oh, I do this tour.

03:21:47.000 You know, these are all tourists.

03:21:48.000 I'm taking them around to all the drug spots and letting them know about the crime.

03:21:52.000 He's like, word.

03:21:53.000 So he gets up on the curb.

03:21:54.000 He's like...

03:21:56.000 Huge dude, you know, prison bill. 0.99

03:21:58.000 He's like, let me tell y'all motherfuckers something right now. 0.99

03:22:01.000 Y'all better listen to this man, because none of y'all motherfuckers would have come down here back in the day. 1.00

03:22:07.000 I would have fucking robbed all you, cut your fucking throat, taken your sneakers, everything. 1.00

03:22:13.000 And they were like... 1.00

03:22:14.000 And then he's like, yo, peace, my man.

03:22:16.000 I'll see you around, blood clot. 1.00

03:22:18.000 And they're like, you heard these Germans go, oh my God, that guy was fucking crazy. 0.99

03:22:24.000 So you would see all... 0.99

03:22:25.000 Authentic. 1.00

03:22:26.000 Dude, you can't make this shit up. 0.99

03:22:28.000 I gotta wrap this up. 0.99

03:22:29.000 I gotta get out of here.

03:22:29.000 John Joseph, thank you very much, brother.

03:22:31.000 Thank you very, very much, man.

03:22:33.000 We're gonna have some fun this weekend, too.

03:22:34.000 Bye, everybody.

03:22:35.000 I'll be back tomorrow with Mark Dellegrate.

03:22:37.000 Cool.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 02, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1152 - John Joseph

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