The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1186 - Marques Brownlee

00:00:01.000 Here we go.

00:00:02.000 Four, three, two, one.

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00:00:07.000 First of all, before we get started, I want to say I love your reviews.

00:00:10.000 Thank you.

00:00:10.000 You are my favorite.

00:00:11.000 You have the...

00:00:13.000 Well, you and Lou.

00:00:13.000 I love Lou, too.

00:00:14.000 But you're so good at covering all the bases of whether it's cell phones or any kind of weird technology that's coming out, and you just...

00:00:25.000 You just nail it.

00:00:26.000 You're my go-to guy, man.

00:00:28.000 Well, thank you.

00:00:28.000 That's quite an intro.

00:00:29.000 I appreciate that.

00:00:31.000 I really want to tell you, whenever a new cell phone's out, I saw that you walked in with the Red, but that's not your daily driver?

00:00:37.000 No, I thought you would like this.

00:00:39.000 I mean, every phone now is glass on glass and everything.

00:00:43.000 But this Red Hydrogen One has a lot of weird stuff about it.

00:00:48.000 It's...

00:00:49.000 First of all, it's about twice as big as it has to be, but it's from Red, which is a camera company.

00:00:53.000 Wow, all these buttons everywhere.

00:00:55.000 Oh, this is a grip.

00:00:57.000 This is not buttons, this is just a grip.

00:00:59.000 Rubberized side grip.

00:01:00.000 You could probably drop it from 45 feet and it'll be fine.

00:01:03.000 Throw it across the room.

00:01:04.000 But the weird part is it's made by Red.

00:01:06.000 So Red's a camera company.

00:01:08.000 I use their cameras, I love their cameras, but then they come out with this, which is a phone, which is kind of weird.

00:01:13.000 There it is right there on the screen.

00:01:14.000 Yeah, that's my photo, actually.

00:01:15.000 So that's next to the iPhone 8 Plus, which is already a huge phone.

00:01:19.000 What is this metal thing on the back, the brass-looking dots?

00:01:22.000 So it's got these pins, and it's supposed to next year support modules that will connect to it.

00:01:28.000 So potentially...

00:01:30.000 VR? Better camera, bigger battery, VR, whatever Reds decide to support or make will attach to it.

00:01:39.000 But it's also kind of...

00:01:40.000 It may or may not happen for a while.

00:01:42.000 Yeah, because Jamie ordered one.

00:01:44.000 When did you order one?

00:01:45.000 I think I paid for it last...

00:01:47.000 I don't know.

00:01:48.000 Right when it went on sale.

00:01:49.000 Yeah.

00:01:49.000 So like last August maybe.

00:01:51.000 Vaporware! 0.75

00:01:51.000 Yeah. 0.75

00:01:52.000 My official one just shipped.

00:01:53.000 That's a prototype.

00:01:54.000 This is a prototype you have here?

00:01:56.000 Yes.

00:01:56.000 So I've worked with Red for...

00:01:58.000 I've seen a lot of the process since...

00:02:00.000 I've gotten like eight software updates and this is not final, but like...

00:02:04.000 It's a pretty good idea.

00:02:06.000 Yeah, what do you think about it so far?

00:02:08.000 It's surprisingly good.

00:02:09.000 A lot of people, like new camera companies or new companies come up and make a phone and it's just not right in a lot of ways.

00:02:15.000 They kind of took a lot of notes and they went minimal with the software.

00:02:19.000 I like that about it.

00:02:20.000 I was expecting the camera to be amazing.

00:02:22.000 They don't make this sensor, so the camera's not amazing yet.

00:02:27.000 But I think the modules will make this what it is.

00:02:32.000 I think the phone by itself is not really a $1,300 phone, but its support for upcoming things that they're planning, I think, will make it good.

00:02:42.000 Is it a problem when a company tries to get into the cell phone business and you're competing with Samsung, Apple, Huawei?

00:02:50.000 There's so many companies that are so advanced.

00:02:53.000 For you to be Red, who's essentially a camera manufacturer, they make video cameras.

00:02:58.000 Really high-end, for people who don't know.

00:03:00.000 Really high-end HD video cameras.

00:03:03.000 A lot of movies are shot on them, films, all kinds of things.

00:03:06.000 Even YouTube videos.

00:03:07.000 Yeah.

00:03:07.000 Oh, you do all your YouTube videos with it?

00:03:09.000 Yeah.

00:03:09.000 Is it really that good for you?

00:03:11.000 I mean, is it worth having a RED camera?

00:03:13.000 It's a large camera, right?

00:03:14.000 It's heavy.

00:03:14.000 Yeah.

00:03:15.000 It started off not that great, and then I got used to it, and then they got better.

00:03:20.000 So, it was probably like five years ago that I first started with a RED, a RED Scarlett.

00:03:24.000 This 4K, 5K camera, and yeah, it's kind of a pain.

00:03:28.000 But the workflow has gotten better.

00:03:30.000 They've worked with...

00:03:40.000 Yeah.

00:03:49.000 Yeah.

00:03:50.000 So how much do they weigh now?

00:03:53.000 I couldn't tell you a weight.

00:03:54.000 I'd say probably between 6 and 10 pounds.

00:03:57.000 Oh, it's not bad at all.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, because it's completely modular.

00:03:59.000 You rig it up to be what you want.

00:04:01.000 So you get that out the box, which is just the brain.

00:04:04.000 What we're looking at for people just listening, it says Red Dragon on the side.

00:04:08.000 Why is it called itself Red Dragon?

00:04:10.000 We've got some names.

00:04:11.000 It's pretty clutch looking.

00:04:13.000 It looks really like a computer.

00:04:16.000 So that's what you're looking at is just the computer and the sensor and that side piece right there is the SSD reader.

00:04:23.000 Everything else, all those pins you see on the top and on the side, that's where you connect what you want to make it The rig.

00:04:29.000 So if you were doing this eight years ago, you would attach a viewfinder, you would attach a couple monitors for directors, you would attach controls, follow focus, the lens obviously, the mount, all this stuff has to attach to it.

00:04:43.000 But for just me and my use, I'd use it more kind of like what you might see in another image, which is just a monitor, an SSD, a controller, and a lens.

00:04:52.000 And that does everything.

00:04:53.000 So is the idea eventually that this phone is going to be able to do everything that that does?

00:04:59.000 So that, I think if you asked Red, they would say yes, but they aren't there yet, obviously.

00:05:07.000 How could they release something...

00:05:09.000 And not have an amazing camera on it.

00:05:11.000 Yeah.

00:05:11.000 That seems crazy.

00:05:13.000 That I think is what I think a lot of people were super hyped about because obviously RED's good with not just the – they make the silicon for the camera, but they're good at color science and autofocus and all these different things that cameras should be good at.

00:05:26.000 So when they come out with a phone that has a camera on it, you just kind of expect it to be amazing.

00:05:30.000 So when it's not the best, I kind of firmly believe this is the best camera.

00:05:33.000 And that's the Google Pixel 3?

00:05:36.000 This Pixel 3, yeah, is the best camera in a phone.

00:05:38.000 Are you a Google Pixel fanboy?

00:05:39.000 At this point, I'm a fan of the camera, which has turned me into a fan of the rest of the phone.

00:05:45.000 Just the camera alone.

00:05:46.000 It's an unusual camera in that it only has one lens.

00:05:48.000 One camera, yes.

00:05:49.000 Yeah, there's one camera where everybody else is going with multiple cameras.

00:05:53.000 Two, three, four.

00:05:54.000 Google's doing everything with software.

00:05:56.000 Yes, and I like that about it.

00:05:58.000 Now, is that the XL? It's the XL. It doesn't seem that big.

00:06:03.000 It's kind of not that insane.

00:06:05.000 I think everyone's into the notch, obviously, which is a little different from what you might see in an iPhone or a Huawei phone or something.

00:06:13.000 But the software is very Google-y.

00:06:16.000 The screen is much better than last year.

00:06:17.000 It's glass and wireless charges.

00:06:19.000 It's got all these things that last year's phone didn't have.

00:06:20.000 But the camera is absolutely what makes that phone good.

00:06:24.000 It's really that much better?

00:06:26.000 It is that much better.

00:06:26.000 What is so good about it?

00:06:29.000 Like you said, it's the software.

00:06:31.000 So what Google does with HDR and essentially their image processing is a big part of why it's good.

00:06:38.000 You could put the same sensor and glass in another smartphone with way weaker software and it wouldn't look as good.

00:06:44.000 But what they do with that image processing, it's a rolling buffer of images, so you can take...

00:06:50.000 It's like instant shutter, so as soon as you press the shutter, it's instant shutter.

00:06:54.000 You freeze the motion, the dynamic range is great, the detail is great, and photos are amazing.

00:07:00.000 I was amazed at the low-light photos.

00:07:01.000 Yeah.

00:07:02.000 Those are stunning.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, the night mode.

00:07:04.000 The best I had seen before that was the Huawei, the Mate...

00:07:08.000 RS, I guess it was.

00:07:09.000 There's been a couple really good night modes in Huawei phones.

00:07:12.000 Yeah, but this seemed even better than that, and it didn't seem distorted.

00:07:16.000 It seemed like you realized it was at night, but you could see all the detail.

00:07:19.000 Yeah, it's hard.

00:07:20.000 It's never going to look as good as daytime, but there's a...

00:07:23.000 I don't have the update yet, but there's going to be an update to the pixel that has night sight or another night mode that does the same thing, where it's taking a bunch of exposures and long exposures and uses stabilization and hopefully gets a much brighter image that looks way better than that.

00:07:37.000 What would be different from the update?

00:07:41.000 In comparison to what it does now.

00:07:43.000 So right now, if you just take a photo at night, it'll just try to noise reduce.

00:07:46.000 Like when you take a photo at night, there's a lot of grain.

00:07:49.000 You're pumping the ISO all the way up.

00:07:51.000 And when you clean all that noise out, it's kind of like airbrushing the image in that it's going to be softer.

00:07:57.000 So if you do a lot of noise reduction, you lose all your detail.

00:08:00.000 It's really soft.

00:08:01.000 So low-light photos just aren't as good.

00:08:03.000 But if you can take a longer exposure with better stabilization...

00:08:08.000 You can not crank the ISO as high, not introduce as much noise, and then at the end of the day have a more detailed, better looking photo.

00:08:15.000 So that's the theory behind a lot of these night modes.

00:08:18.000 How do they do that all in software?

00:08:22.000 A lot of calibration, a lot of knowing exactly how good the optical image stabilization is in the lens, and then electronic stabilization as well, a lot of algorithms knowing what part of the photo is moving versus what isn't.

00:08:34.000 So there's a lot of computational photography is what it's called happening.

00:08:39.000 On the chip that makes it that good.

00:08:41.000 It's just fascinating that Google is the only one who's doing this with one camera, as opposed to everyone else.

00:08:46.000 Like my iPhone has several cameras.

00:08:48.000 I have a Note 9, which I really like.

00:08:52.000 And one of the other things about Google is it does not have a lot of RAM. No.

00:08:57.000 I found that actually kind of an interesting weak point about this phone.

00:09:00.000 And I haven't even...

00:09:01.000 I've reviewed it, and I was kind of skeptical about...

00:09:03.000 It's only 4 gigs of RAM, which, like, a couple years ago...

00:09:07.000 Wow, 4 gigs of RAM on a phone?

00:09:08.000 That's amazing.

00:09:09.000 That's amazing.

00:09:09.000 But a lot of phones coming out now have 6, 8 gigs of RAM. Who has the most right now?

00:09:14.000 A gaming phone just came out with 10 gigs of RAM. Is it the Razer phone or a different one?

00:09:18.000 No, another one.

00:09:19.000 I don't even remember the name.

00:09:20.000 But then there's also an Oppo Find X with 10 gigs of RAM. Do you need that?

00:09:24.000 No.

00:09:25.000 You don't need it.

00:09:26.000 What would be the benefit of having 10 gigs of RAM? Like what software would run?

00:09:30.000 Basically the advantage to having more RAM is keeping apps open and running in the background longer.

00:09:36.000 So if you have your camera and your Twitter and your Instagram and your web browser and all that...

00:09:41.000 A lot of high, maybe a couple games, all running at the same time, and then you multitask and switch between them.

00:09:48.000 On a phone with less RAM, you'll find that you'll switch from the game to the browser, and you go back to the browser, and it reloads everything, because it completely garbaged that from the memory after a while, because it was trying to save space.

00:09:59.000 So on a phone with four gigs of RAM, this happened to me a couple times where I'd be listening to music, and I'd open the camera, and I'd take a few photos, and then the music or the podcast or whatever would just stop.

00:10:09.000 And it killed that app in the background with only 4 gigs of RAM. I'm not doing that crazy things with multitasking.

00:10:15.000 Just two things running?

00:10:16.000 Just two.

00:10:16.000 I think it might have been a bug because the camera uses a lot of memory and for whatever reason it just picks the other big memory app and kills it.

00:10:23.000 It's not very repeatable.

00:10:25.000 I've had it happen to me since I landed yesterday, like a couple times.

00:10:28.000 But I think a phone with 6 or 8 gigs of RAM. The last phone I was using for a while was the OnePlus 6. It has 8 gigs of RAM. And that never happened to me.

00:10:38.000 Every time I'd multitask and go back five, ten apps ago and open it, it was right where I left off.

00:10:44.000 Is the Google Pixel 3 your favorite phone, or is it just your favorite phone because of the camera?

00:10:51.000 It is my favorite phone, period.

00:10:55.000 And it also has the best camera.

00:10:56.000 And is it your favorite phone because it has pure Google?

00:10:59.000 Because you have the latest Android?

00:11:02.000 It's the latest Android, which is kind of hard to find.

00:11:05.000 And then you get, obviously, this pure Google experience and this amazing camera and a great display.

00:11:09.000 And my priorities on a phone are pretty much along those lines.

00:11:12.000 I need a great camera.

00:11:14.000 And then I want a great display, I want good software, and then the rest kind of follows.

00:11:18.000 And you want pure Google, right?

00:11:20.000 You don't want to be operating under the Samsung skin?

00:11:22.000 I don't mind a skin if it's good. 0.95

00:11:26.000 There's a lot of skins, like OnePlus has Oxygen OS, and it's a skin, technically.

00:11:31.000 It's close to pure Google, but it's missing a lot of the Pixel features.

00:11:35.000 But it's fine.

00:11:36.000 It's smooth.

00:11:36.000 It's great.

00:11:36.000 Is OnePlus running the latest Android?

00:11:39.000 No.

00:11:40.000 Who is?

00:11:40.000 It's Essential phone?

00:11:42.000 So OnePlus, I think, just got the Android P update.

00:11:45.000 Essential just got the Android P update.

00:11:47.000 And then everyone else is on, like, one version ago or older.

00:11:53.000 Hmm. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Why is that a pain in the ass for them? 1.00

00:11:55.000 Why can't it be universal? 0.98

00:11:57.000 I have a bunch of theories on why they don't update their software as quickly as they probably could.

00:12:04.000 I think a lot of it in the U.S. especially has to do with carriers.

00:12:08.000 When you want to push a software update to a phone on Verizon, for example, not only do you have to rewrite the software and optimize it and everything, but then you have to submit it for certification from Verizon.

00:12:21.000 Verizon has to push that update. 0.98

00:12:22.000 That whole introduction of the third party through the carrier is a huge pain in the ass. 0.94

00:12:27.000 And then on top of that, I know a lot of people who, when they get a software update, actively avoid installing it. 0.89

00:12:32.000 They just don't want So, a lot of teams or a lot of manufacturers just don't.

00:12:52.000 They support the phone for a year or two and then that's it.

00:12:54.000 But for folks like you, for the power users, that's big.

00:12:58.000 That's a big thing, having the latest and greatest.

00:13:00.000 Definitely, yeah.

00:13:01.000 That's why I'm a fan of phones that keep the skin light and update quickly, which is what you'll find with Pixel and Essential and OxygenOS and stuff like that.

00:13:10.000 And that's really it.

00:13:11.000 Samsung takes a long time to get to it.

00:13:13.000 Yeah.

00:13:14.000 Yeah.

00:13:15.000 As great as Samsung phones are, they definitely are not first to get new software.

00:13:18.000 They're trying to do it quicker, apparently, what I've been reading, but I guess there is a bunch of issues.

00:13:24.000 Always a bottleneck.

00:13:25.000 Yeah.

00:13:26.000 Now, when you compare phones, do you have a checklist of things that you have on a computer, or is it just all off the top of your head?

00:13:36.000 Do you have a rating system that you use, a personal rating system?

00:13:40.000 I don't have a rating.

00:13:41.000 I do have a checklist of things that I definitely pay attention to every time.

00:13:46.000 I go through screens, displays, and battery life.

00:13:50.000 Mm-hmm.

00:13:59.000 Right.

00:14:06.000 The next one's going to be better, right?

00:14:08.000 So how do you put that on the scale?

00:14:11.000 10 out of 10 for October 2018?

00:14:13.000 Can you say that?

00:14:14.000 Yeah, I guess you'd be like, this is the best phone.

00:14:16.000 Like I said, if I say this is the best phone right now, then maybe that's not a 10 out of 10, but it's like the best you can get.

00:14:21.000 But that line just keeps moving, so I don't give things numbers. 0.86

00:14:24.000 See, for me, the things that you said that would be a pain in the ass, that your music would shut off because you're using the camera, that's kind of big to me. 0.99

00:14:32.000 That's a pain in the ass, yeah. 0.98

00:14:33.000 It's not a 10 out of 10 because of, I think, the memory is a problem. 0.99

00:14:37.000 The notch is bothering some people.

00:14:39.000 It doesn't bother me anymore.

00:14:40.000 It just kind of...

00:14:42.000 Blends in.

00:14:43.000 I don't really look at the notch, so...

00:14:44.000 Have you gone into the developer settings and fucked with the removal of the notch? 0.68

00:14:48.000 I tried it. 0.96

00:14:48.000 It wasn't that big a deal. 0.96

00:14:50.000 Yeah, it just makes a big black bar over the top.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:53.000 And you just lose the screen you paid extra for.

00:14:55.000 Yeah, that seems silly.

00:14:56.000 I don't mind it on the iPhone.

00:14:58.000 Mostly I use the XS Max, this one right here.

00:15:01.000 But I'm so sour on Apple because of what they did with the batteries.

00:15:06.000 That was such a dirty thing to me.

00:15:10.000 Because everybody had always suspected it.

00:15:12.000 Like my friend Brian was always like, dude, I'm telling you, when the new phones come out, your old phone starts moving slower.

00:15:17.000 I'm like, dude, that's a conspiracy. 0.98

00:15:18.000 That's all horseshit. 0.96

00:15:19.000 I'm like, your phone's just old, bro. 1.00

00:15:20.000 But then when I found out that it was real, I was like, you assholes. 0.99

00:15:26.000 The problem was the way they didn't tell people. 0.98

00:15:29.000 They could have just avoided the whole PR, whatever you want to call it, by just telling people, look, this is what we do when your phone's getting older.

00:15:38.000 We need to preserve either the CPU or the battery, so we need to either voltage down the CPU or save your battery.

00:15:44.000 Pick one and give us a choice.

00:15:46.000 They didn't tell us until people started suspecting things and they had to make a statement.

00:15:50.000 And then it looked kind of dirty and hidden.

00:15:53.000 I don't buy it.

00:15:54.000 I think it's a trick to try to get you to buy new phones.

00:15:57.000 There's no way they didn't think about that.

00:15:59.000 Of course they thought about it.

00:16:00.000 There's no chance they didn't think about that.

00:16:01.000 Why else would they do it that way?

00:16:03.000 Why else wouldn't they just let the battery be slower?

00:16:06.000 Or let the CPU be slower?

00:16:08.000 And the best part is they give you the choice now, but if you never look for it, you'll never find it.

00:16:13.000 And they definitely still default to saving your battery by underclocking a chip.

00:16:18.000 So your phone will still slow down if you don't know where to find that option in the settings.

00:16:22.000 As soon as the new phones come out.

00:16:23.000 Basically. 1.00

00:16:24.000 You motherfuckers. 1.00

00:16:26.000 It's just dirty! 1.00

00:16:27.000 It seems pretty dirty, yeah.

00:16:28.000 Because it's the thing that everybody always suspected.

00:16:31.000 Everybody always suspected there was some sort of engineered obsolescence.

00:16:34.000 They're doing this on purpose to get you to keep buying the newest, latest, and greatest.

00:16:38.000 But I wanted to go, nah!

00:16:41.000 Apple?

00:16:42.000 Come on.

00:16:43.000 Apple wouldn't do that.

00:16:44.000 They're your friends.

00:16:45.000 They paint this picture that's really upright and like, we want you to have the best experience as long as possible, which involves not replacing your battery, which means we'll just slow down your phone just a little bit so that it lasts longer and the battery can keep up.

00:17:01.000 Makes sense on paper.

00:17:03.000 On paper?

00:17:04.000 Well, there's a lot of things about Apple that I really like.

00:17:07.000 I really love the OS. I really love it.

00:17:10.000 I mean, it's just so much better than Windows. 0.95

00:17:12.000 But their keyboard sucks so bad on their laptop.

00:17:16.000 Yeah, all the laptop, yeah. 0.99

00:17:17.000 Clicky.

00:17:18.000 It just doesn't feel good.

00:17:21.000 It's got shallow travel.

00:17:23.000 There's all these issues.

00:17:24.000 I switched to a Lenovo.

00:17:25.000 I went with a ThinkPad.

00:17:26.000 Just for stand-up, I have to write a lot.

00:17:28.000 And I found out that I write way slower, like maybe 10 words per minute slower.

00:17:34.000 Huh.

00:17:35.000 It's a real issue.

00:17:36.000 Because you make a lot more mistakes with those little shallow, clicky things.

00:17:41.000 And with the Lenovo, you have much more travel.

00:17:45.000 It's much easier to touch type.

00:17:47.000 It just feels better for me.

00:17:49.000 But that bums me out.

00:17:50.000 It's like, why can't they get that right?

00:17:53.000 You're making these things for creative people.

00:17:55.000 That's your whole thing.

00:17:56.000 It's like, think different.

00:17:58.000 That's another thing I kind of got...

00:18:00.000 It's, again, like what Apple tries to portray themself as versus what you're actually experiencing.

00:18:05.000 If you never listen to Apple and you get the new laptop, you're like, wow, this keyboard's worse. 0.98

00:18:09.000 This sucks. 0.87

00:18:10.000 Why is this keyboard so shallow and mushy? 0.99

00:18:13.000 And then you're supposed to listen to Apple and they're like, well, we made it quieter.

00:18:17.000 We made it thinner.

00:18:19.000 So the laptop's thinner now.

00:18:21.000 And they'll give you all these reasons why they did what they did.

00:18:23.000 And you're supposed to go, oh, okay, yeah, that actually makes sense.

00:18:26.000 Maybe this is better.

00:18:28.000 But your experience often says the opposite, so that's why people like to not listen to what Apple says and just...

00:18:34.000 Evaluate it without listening to that particularly for writers for someone who writes And you write on a regular basis you want a comfortable keyboard and you know I've Constantly searched for the best keyboard right now.

00:18:48.000 I think it's probably the ThinkPad but I've heard great things about the Razer the Razer Pro which is the really large gaming one it has a mechanical keyboard for the first time ever on a laptop and Yeah.

00:19:00.000 And that's supposed to be really good.

00:19:02.000 I have tried the Blade, and I've tried...

00:19:05.000 What I'm using right now is the Surface, the Microsoft Surface Laptop 2, and that's got a pretty good keyboard.

00:19:10.000 Yeah?

00:19:10.000 It travels a lot, it's backlit, and then the actual laptop part itself is not metal.

00:19:15.000 It's got like Alcantara, like you might see inside a car, like a soft touch on the laptop.

00:19:19.000 Really?

00:19:20.000 Yeah, so it's kind of like...

00:19:21.000 Oh, pull that out. 0.90

00:19:21.000 Go grab that. 0.90

00:19:22.000 I'll go grab that.

00:19:22.000 It's kind of...

00:19:23.000 Alcantara?

00:19:24.000 Yeah.

00:19:24.000 Like fake suede?

00:19:25.000 Yeah.

00:19:26.000 Like what you see in a car.

00:19:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:19:27.000 That's the craziest shit I've ever heard in my life. 1.00

00:19:30.000 Alcantara. 1.00

00:19:31.000 Yeah, the Razer...

00:19:33.000 Pull up that Razer Blade Pro, too, if you get a chance.

00:19:37.000 We'll look at the Surface first, because he's going to go grab that.

00:19:40.000 But the Razer Blade Pro is also...

00:19:42.000 It's an enormous laptop, and it has the...

00:19:46.000 Yeah, that's it right there.

00:19:47.000 The Razer Blade Pro is so big and wide that it actually has the mouse on the side, like a trackpad.

00:19:53.000 This is it, huh?

00:19:55.000 So that's the Surface Laptop 2. Oh, wow.

00:19:59.000 How weird.

00:20:00.000 And the keyboard's pretty good.

00:20:02.000 It's like a polished Alcantara.

00:20:04.000 Ooh, that feels good.

00:20:05.000 Yeah.

00:20:06.000 The question though, whenever you see that material, is like, if I'm putting my palms on that all the time, how long will that last?

00:20:12.000 Will it start to like thin out and look kind of worn after a while?

00:20:16.000 Or will it stay looking like that?

00:20:17.000 I hope it does.

00:20:18.000 And also the whole laptop is matte black, which is, I think that looks dope.

00:20:22.000 But that's also usually a fingerprint magnet.

00:20:26.000 When you carry around like a matte black thing, you get like all this grease on it or whatever carrying it.

00:20:30.000 So like that's a challenge for that laptop, but I love it.

00:20:33.000 The other thing about the difference between the keyboard on this versus...

00:20:39.000 The keyboard on, what I have is, I have the Lenovo Carbon X1. And what I really like about this is that there's, they're not flat.

00:20:49.000 They have like a little bit of a, like a dip to them.

00:20:53.000 So your fingers sort of sit in them a little bit.

00:20:56.000 Yeah, there's like a little bit of a...

00:20:58.000 Yeah, that's smart.

00:20:59.000 I wish more, so like you kind of, it's easier to, oh yeah, it's easier to touch type when you have like the spot, yeah.

00:21:05.000 Why don't people figure that out?

00:21:07.000 I think all of it is just you get used to it.

00:21:08.000 Like, there's a Google tablet that came out recently with a $200 keyboard accessory that has circular keys and slightly concave.

00:21:18.000 But, like, typing on it was fine.

00:21:20.000 And, like, they claim, like, oh, yeah, once you get used to it, like, the surface area of the key being circular makes it easier to type faster after a while.

00:21:27.000 Huh.

00:21:28.000 I don't know if I buy that yet, but...

00:21:29.000 Maybe if you were a secretary and you're really...

00:21:31.000 You're really used to the circular.

00:21:32.000 It looks like a typewriter when you just look at it.

00:21:35.000 Which one is it?

00:21:36.000 Pull that thing up. 0.99

00:21:37.000 That would be the Google...

00:21:40.000 What do they call it?

00:21:42.000 Something tab.

00:21:43.000 It came out the same time the Pixel 3, and their naming is weird with them.

00:21:47.000 But it has basically a Surface-like $200 keyboard magnet accessory.

00:21:53.000 You can prop it up at any angle, and it goes from a tablet to a laptop with this keyboard dock.

00:21:58.000 Huh.

00:21:58.000 And then it's kind of interesting.

00:22:00.000 But the circular keys I found weird.

00:22:02.000 That Alcantara on the handrest feels amazing.

00:22:05.000 Yeah.

00:22:06.000 That's really nice.

00:22:07.000 Yeah.

00:22:07.000 I think I'm going to get used to that.

00:22:09.000 I've been using a MacBook Pro for so long, the contrast is...

00:22:13.000 I was really used to having metal, and metal feels premium and good.

00:22:17.000 It's not going to wear down.

00:22:20.000 But I like this a lot, actually.

00:22:21.000 Well, what metal doesn't feel good, though, is on your hands when you're sitting on it for a long time.

00:22:26.000 The edges.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, the edges.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, they kind of got the edges right, where they wrap the material around to the sides.

00:22:33.000 The MacBook Pro is literally sharp.

00:22:35.000 Yeah, it cuts you kind of.

00:22:36.000 If you put your hands on the edge for too long.

00:22:38.000 This Lenovo is carbon fiber.

00:22:40.000 Nice.

00:22:40.000 So this whole thing is...

00:22:42.000 It's not cheap, though.

00:22:43.000 No, it's not cheap.

00:22:44.000 In comparison to a Mac laptop, though, it is.

00:22:49.000 And there's way more options.

00:22:50.000 That's the other thing.

00:22:51.000 With a Mac, you get like a 13-inch, you get a 15-inch, you get a touch bar, or you get nothing.

00:22:57.000 Yeah.

00:22:57.000 What's the matter, Jamie?

00:22:58.000 Pixel Slate.

00:22:59.000 I just had it there.

00:22:59.000 The picture changed.

00:23:00.000 Oh, these motherfuckers. 1.00

00:23:02.000 That's what it's called, though. 1.00

00:23:03.000 Pixel Slate.

00:23:04.000 There it is.

00:23:04.000 Oh, there it is.

00:23:05.000 Okay.

00:23:06.000 So those are the keys.

00:23:07.000 Those are circular keys.

00:23:08.000 And that sort of connects to the tablet.

00:23:11.000 It's a great accessory.

00:23:13.000 Like, the magnet on the back, like, I don't know if you've seen a Surface, the tablet with the little kickstand, you kind of have, like, a couple notches where you can adjust it.

00:23:21.000 And I think the new version has infinite adjustment, but this is the same thing.

00:23:24.000 Like, there's a magnet in the back of the Surface, or the Pixel Slate.

00:23:28.000 That lets you adjust the tablet to any angle, watch videos, type, whatever.

00:23:32.000 Apple's the only company that makes keyboards that I know that had it better in like 2012 than they do in 2018. If you get a 2012 MacBook, you go, ooh, this is kind of better.

00:23:43.000 There's more travel.

00:23:44.000 Yeah.

00:23:45.000 You might think it's like an upgrade if they went backwards.

00:23:47.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:23:49.000 That's goofy. 1.00

00:23:50.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:23:51.000 I don't know how they did that. 1.00

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:54.000 They're so design oriented.

00:23:56.000 I mean everything looks stellar.

00:23:57.000 That's what it is.

00:23:58.000 Apple has been Not a victim of their own desire to make great design, but they often, very often, make compromises, sometimes to the detriment of how good a product can be, to make it look better.

00:24:14.000 Classic example was the Mac Pro, the little circular trashcan-looking Mac Pro that came out in 2012 or something like that.

00:24:22.000 They made all these promises.

00:24:24.000 It's this sleek, modern workstation that's going to have the Xeon chips and big GPUs.

00:24:30.000 And I loved it, but it only had one fan for a $7,000 workstation, and they constantly overheated and would throttle, and eventually it was a nightmare for them.

00:24:42.000 Wasn't that something that was going on with the latest laptops?

00:24:45.000 With the latest MacBook Pros?

00:24:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:24:47.000 Same thing.

00:24:48.000 They made the i9.

00:24:49.000 The Core i9, they put in this super thin laptop.

00:24:52.000 They made this laptop so thin, and they kept the fan speed so low, because it's got to So they just throttled the CPU down so it wouldn't get so hot that they had to kick up the fans that high.

00:25:03.000 So the actual performance, even though the CPU is more powerful, was not as good as the last model.

00:25:08.000 Right. 1.00

00:25:09.000 That's fucking stupid. 1.00

00:25:09.000 Which was to make it look good. 1.00

00:25:11.000 Exactly.

00:25:12.000 So yeah, Apple's been a victim of their own desire to make things so beautiful. 0.92

00:25:16.000 And then they got fucked by Huawei because Huawei came along with the MateBook.

00:25:22.000 And the MateBook Pro is really a better version of the MacBook. 0.96

00:25:27.000 I'm into it, yeah. 0.98

00:25:28.000 They fucking nailed it! 0.98

00:25:29.000 There's no bezels. 0.98

00:25:30.000 The way that webcam pops up from the button...

00:25:33.000 That I found interesting.

00:25:34.000 I don't know how...

00:25:34.000 It's a weird angle.

00:25:35.000 It's like up your nostrils.

00:25:36.000 Exactly.

00:25:36.000 It's like on the table level of wherever you're sitting.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 Kind of looking up at you.

00:25:40.000 That's very odd.

00:25:41.000 But yeah, there's a lot of great things about that.

00:25:44.000 Pull that thing up. 0.99

00:25:45.000 MateBook Pro, Huawei.

00:25:47.000 But meanwhile, it's probably spying on you all day long.

00:25:49.000 Sending information to the Chinese government.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, Huawei's reputation is not so hot.

00:25:54.000 They just found some spy chip in their cell phones.

00:25:57.000 Oh, you're talking about the...

00:25:59.000 Well, there's a couple things that just happened with chips in hardware.

00:26:03.000 There's another thing about...

00:26:05.000 A Bloomberg report?

00:26:07.000 Did you see that?

00:26:08.000 Yes.

00:26:09.000 Of the chips that came from all these, this server company, or this company that makes the chips that sells to all these big companies like Apple and major, major companies, and now everyone's compromised.

00:26:21.000 And Apple's like, nope, not true.

00:26:23.000 Definitely not true.

00:26:24.000 Don't say that.

00:26:25.000 Of course, not us.

00:26:26.000 Yeah, no, 100% not us.

00:26:27.000 But like, yeah, that's a really weird story.

00:26:30.000 Look at this Matebook.

00:26:32.000 The bezels.

00:26:34.000 They're almost non-existent.

00:26:36.000 That is a gorgeous website.

00:26:38.000 Or a gorgeous laptop, rather.

00:26:39.000 If you're Huawei and you make that, now you have to convince people to switch from the MacBooks that they love to that.

00:26:46.000 Yes.

00:26:46.000 Just on looks alone, they could probably do it.

00:26:49.000 But then there's all the other features like, well, it doesn't run Mac OS X. Do I have iMessage?

00:26:55.000 Right.

00:26:55.000 Do I have all these other things that I like about my Mac?

00:26:58.000 This huge touchpad.

00:27:00.000 Right.

00:27:00.000 Well, it does have a huge touchpad.

00:27:02.000 Yes, but I'd say to this day still Apple has the best laptop touchpads, the multi-touch stuff.

00:27:09.000 The battery life is supposed to be excellent as well, right?

00:27:11.000 Yeah.

00:27:11.000 Look at it.

00:27:12.000 That chart was perfect because that's like all these X's for that. 0.96

00:27:15.000 Yes, we have great design.

00:27:16.000 We have better ports.

00:27:17.000 You only have USB-C on that little MacBook Pro.

00:27:19.000 We have full-size USB. We have all this stuff.

00:27:21.000 We'll give audio to the MacBook Pro.

00:27:23.000 It's got bigger speakers, whatever.

00:27:24.000 But we have a better battery life.

00:27:26.000 We have all this better lower price, all this stuff.

00:27:28.000 And you still have to reconcile with...

00:27:32.000 What people love about their MacBook Pros, which is Mac OS X. Well, there's that, but there's also people love having an Apple product.

00:27:40.000 That too.

00:27:40.000 They do love that.

00:27:41.000 If you could put an Apple logo on a Huawei, I wonder how many they could sell.

00:27:46.000 It'd probably be a little better. 1.00

00:27:47.000 Sell the shit out of them. 0.99

00:27:49.000 Some comic has a joke about texting a girl, and the text message comes back in green. 1.00

00:27:53.000 You go, damn, she's poor. 1.00

00:27:56.000 It's a true thought people have. 1.00

00:27:58.000 Yes!

00:27:58.000 People want iMessage.

00:28:00.000 If you're messaging someone and you find out it won't send an iMessage, it'll only send a text message.

00:28:06.000 You're like, oh, this weirdo.

00:28:07.000 They have a flip phone, like some cave person.

00:28:10.000 I've been on the other side of that.

00:28:11.000 I carry an iPhone, but I text people on my Android phone.

00:28:13.000 So I've never been on the...

00:28:15.000 Judging side, but I wonder about that every day.

00:28:18.000 Like, really, what does it matter?

00:28:20.000 Like, I text you with a green bubble, which Apple decided, first of all, to differentiate iMessage versus text message, which is hilarious.

00:28:29.000 Who cares?

00:28:30.000 Well, the blue does look better.

00:28:33.000 I'm sure they decided to.

00:28:34.000 I'm sure in a software update, they tweaked that green to make it look extra harsh.

00:28:38.000 Well, you know what it is, is they figured out with pool tables a long time ago.

00:28:43.000 Like pool tables, the cloth generally is green, right?

00:28:47.000 But when they started playing in professional tournaments, they realized that blue cloth is actually easier on the eyes and you can differentiate the edges better.

00:28:57.000 So, a lot of, like, really high-end professional matches are played on blue cloth now.

00:29:03.000 It's like a light blue sky blue cloth.

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:06.000 I've seen, and that's, I guess, because of the way your eyes work.

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 Like, something about primary colors and the cones and you're more contrast sensitive to blue, something like that.

00:29:15.000 I don't know.

00:29:15.000 Well, it's something about the way white contrasts with green is not quite as pleasing as white contrasting with blue.

00:29:22.000 But it could be that Apple's fucking with you with the green. 0.96

00:29:25.000 They're giving you some vomit green. 0.98

00:29:27.000 Make it some brown color next year.

00:29:29.000 Yeah.

00:29:30.000 The color of the app is green.

00:29:32.000 Why wouldn't they make it blue?

00:29:34.000 I messaged the app.

00:29:35.000 That button you pressed to open it is green.

00:29:36.000 It's a green logo.

00:29:37.000 Why not make it blue?

00:29:38.000 That's really true. 0.99

00:29:39.000 Yeah, what the fuck? 0.99

00:29:41.000 That's a very good point, Jamie. 1.00

00:29:44.000 Yeah, why do they do that?

00:29:46.000 Why would it be green when you're sending blue messages?

00:29:49.000 Apple.

00:29:49.000 That's weird.

00:29:50.000 You dorks. 0.98

00:29:51.000 Steve Jobs is dead. 1.00

00:29:52.000 You guys are fucked. 1.00

00:29:53.000 You don't know what you're doing. 1.00

00:29:54.000 Design.

00:29:55.000 But the MateBook, other than that, it's supposed to have a better keyboard.

00:29:59.000 It's supposed to have a keyboard that's probably similar to that Surface Book.

00:30:02.000 And it's supposed to have better battery life.

00:30:05.000 Bezel-less.

00:30:06.000 Yeah, bezel-less.

00:30:07.000 Touchscreen.

00:30:08.000 Higher resolution. 0.98

00:30:09.000 But you've got to deal with Windows 10, which is a little bit of a pain in the ass, I've got to admit. 0.95

00:30:14.000 It's like the updates are almost daily. 0.96

00:30:16.000 There's something going on with firmware or something going on with this or that.

00:30:20.000 I've gotten used to it, mostly though because most of what I do on my laptop is pretty web-based.

00:30:26.000 So I'm just living in Chrome or Safari or whatever, so it's not a big deal.

00:30:29.000 But then, yeah, once I have to go out and...

00:30:32.000 I'm going to go in Lightroom and do some photo work, and then suddenly I'm digging through files, and I'm in Windows, and then you start to feel like you're different.

00:30:40.000 Yeah, the first time you have to update a driver, you're like, what is it, 1996?

00:30:44.000 What the fuck is going on here?

00:30:46.000 Updating drivers? 0.99

00:30:47.000 I try to avoid that.

00:30:48.000 Ew.

00:30:49.000 It's just...

00:30:50.000 They're close, though.

00:30:52.000 Like, it's way better than it was five years ago.

00:30:54.000 Yeah.

00:30:55.000 You know, five years ago, you would look at Windows.

00:30:57.000 You'd be like, this is like some archaic, pixelated...

00:31:00.000 Came from Vista to Windows 7 to Windows 10. Vista was kind of that nightmare, and then they kind of have worked upwards since then.

00:31:08.000 I started with Windows 95. I used to make my own computers back in my hardcore video gaming days.

00:31:14.000 Nice.

00:31:15.000 I used to go to Fry's Electronics and get motherboards and the box and fans.

00:31:19.000 I started that online.

00:31:21.000 So I never went to a physical computer store to buy parts.

00:31:25.000 But I would have to do the whole cross-referencing what's compatible with what online.

00:31:31.000 And then put together a whole list and then just buy it.

00:31:34.000 And then nine boxes show up.

00:31:35.000 And hopefully they all work.

00:31:37.000 But yeah, it was the same experience.

00:31:39.000 Yeah, and SLI video cards and connecting them with that cable.

00:31:44.000 You ever mess up and break one?

00:31:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:46.000 Yeah.

00:31:47.000 But fixing it makes you feel like you did something.

00:31:50.000 Well, there's something going on when you're like the jumpers for the motherboard and you're moving stuff around.

00:31:55.000 It was cool.

00:31:58.000 Yeah.

00:31:58.000 And then once you actually got online with a computer, you made yourself like, this is something about this.

00:32:03.000 Yeah.

00:32:04.000 And I remember when you used to be able to do that with Apple.

00:32:06.000 You used to be able to buy clones.

00:32:08.000 Yeah.

00:32:10.000 Way back in the day, still in high school, I had a Dell XPS 730, I think it was called.

00:32:16.000 This huge desktop where, again, you could take the CPU cooler out, put a new one in.

00:32:21.000 It was modular fully.

00:32:22.000 And then Apple also made this huge desktop, this Power Mac, or I don't know what it was called at the time, but it was, again, massive.

00:32:29.000 You could take the graphics card out, put a new one in.

00:32:31.000 You could take the RAM out, take the CPU out, but it was, like, this weird system where, like, they were on, like, decks and you had to, like, take this big metal slot out and then do the CPU there and then put it back in.

00:32:43.000 It was really satisfying to, like, change the hardware and, like, yeah, I did that.

00:32:47.000 And then you boot it up and it's like, that's exactly right.

00:32:49.000 Now it's got 8 gigs of RAM. Yeah, especially, I don't know, I think it's a man thing, too.

00:32:54.000 Men like changing carburetors.

00:32:56.000 The mechanical feel.

00:32:57.000 Yeah.

00:32:57.000 Yeah, that's probably a lot to do with it, too.

00:32:59.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:33:01.000 That thing. 0.97

00:33:01.000 Yeah, I remember that sucker. 0.97

00:33:03.000 I think even one generation after that, because it had basically elevator levels to it, like the top level and then the bottom level and then the hard drives and the power supply and the top, like all that stuff. 0.90

00:33:13.000 And you can mess with that. 0.95

00:33:14.000 If you go over to someone's house and they have that now, you're like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

00:33:18.000 But that's the thing about, like, that was the most accessible, modular desktop Apple ever, ever made.

00:33:25.000 And now they're making this promise again, like, alright, we listened, we know that little trash can Mac Pro was not good, thermally or design-wise for anyone, so we're gonna make a modular, professional desktop Mac Pro again.

00:33:38.000 That's what they said.

00:33:39.000 And it's going to be next year sometime.

00:33:41.000 And I keep picturing that.

00:33:43.000 I picture them going back to the roots of a real bonafide desktop.

00:33:47.000 Because right now, the most powerful Mac you can get is the iMac Pro.

00:33:52.000 And you can't even update the RAM in the iMac Pro.

00:33:55.000 Really?

00:33:55.000 You can't update anything about iMac Pro.

00:33:58.000 Really?

00:33:58.000 Yeah.

00:33:59.000 What you buy is what you get.

00:34:00.000 If you buy a $7,000 iMac Pro, you will have that spec forever.

00:34:06.000 Apple doesn't want you opening anything in that thing.

00:34:09.000 So when they say, yeah, we're going to make a modular, updatable, real, well-designed Apple desktop, I'm like, I really hope they're doing that.

00:34:18.000 Like, exactly.

00:34:19.000 Because that's...

00:34:19.000 I love that.

00:34:20.000 Do they have regular towers anymore?

00:34:23.000 No.

00:34:24.000 No.

00:34:24.000 Everything's an iMac?

00:34:25.000 They had that little trash can and then...

00:34:29.000 We're good to go.

00:34:50.000 Basically, yeah.

00:34:50.000 I mean, the iMac, they have those desktop internals in it, but you're still going to be restrained by how closed off that space is, how many fans they can fit in there.

00:35:03.000 So if they really want to do a true desktop, they've got to open it up and make it huge, which is not very like Apple.

00:35:10.000 So it's going to be interesting to see what they do.

00:35:14.000 Yeah.

00:35:14.000 What year is your laptop over there?

00:35:16.000 That's an older one, right?

00:35:17.000 This is the last one before they added the track bar.

00:35:20.000 The last one that glows.

00:35:21.000 It's like 2015. Does yours have a dip at all to the keys?

00:35:26.000 Yeah, very small.

00:35:28.000 But that's all you need.

00:35:29.000 All you need is a very small dip.

00:35:31.000 It's not flat. 1.00

00:35:32.000 As soon as they went with flat, they fucked up. 0.98

00:35:36.000 There's a company that refurbishes 17-inch MacBooks. 0.99

00:35:40.000 The big one, the Mac Daddy.

00:35:42.000 They used to have a 17-inch laptop.

00:35:45.000 They refurbish it and put a modern CPU in it.

00:35:48.000 They put a big SSD drive, like a 1TB or 2TB SSD drive.

00:35:54.000 So you deal with a solid-state drive, so it instantly fires up.

00:35:57.000 Much more RAM, much more everything.

00:36:00.000 Yeah, that's what they call a desktop replacement laptop.

00:36:02.000 Yeah.

00:36:03.000 I was into that for a while.

00:36:05.000 That's actually how I started my channel, was I bought a 17-inch laptop.

00:36:08.000 And I was trying to figure out which one strikes the balance of where I want to be with taking it off the dock once in a while and walking around the house maybe, but planting it back here and it's my desktop and it's a 17-inch screen.

00:36:20.000 That was where I started.

00:36:21.000 I ended up with HP. If you're at the airport and you have a cancelled flight, you could get a workout in.

00:36:27.000 Just lifting that thing in front of you, go to the side, go to the side.

00:36:33.000 That's the other thing.

00:36:33.000 I was on the plane with this.

00:36:34.000 This is a 12-inch screen and every time the guy in front of me leaned back, he just smacked my laptop.

00:36:39.000 I had to move it.

00:36:41.000 You really need a 9-inch screen probably to get away with.

00:36:45.000 That's 12 inches?

00:36:46.000 Can you flip that around?

00:36:47.000 It's a 12 or 13 inch screen, but it's like a taller 3 to 2 aspect ratio.

00:36:51.000 So it's not like the smaller 16 by 9 screen would be underneath where that guy was hitting my screen.

00:36:59.000 So most of the bezel seems like it's on the bottom.

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:03.000 It's your chin at the bottom here.

00:37:05.000 I mean, it's a pretty good sized bezel, but I'm still hoping for a bezel-less laptop.

00:37:10.000 Have you ever thought about going with the Huawei?

00:37:14.000 Not really, mostly because I switch laptops so infrequently that I was just like, if it's not massively better than the MacBook Pro, I don't really feel the need to switch.

00:37:23.000 This came on my radar in the last, like, two weeks, and I decided to try it.

00:37:28.000 And it's been worth the shot.

00:37:31.000 I'm really into it.

00:37:32.000 I'm probably going to switch back to the MacBook Pro in a little while once I start to run up against things.

00:37:37.000 This doesn't have USB-C, which is sad.

00:37:40.000 That's weird.

00:37:41.000 And eventually that's going to bite me.

00:37:42.000 And when I do, I'm going to want to switch back.

00:37:44.000 A new Microsoft laptop that doesn't have USB-C doesn't really make a lot of sense.

00:37:48.000 It doesn't.

00:37:49.000 At all.

00:37:50.000 Why'd they do that?

00:37:50.000 I have no idea.

00:37:52.000 It looks great.

00:37:53.000 It's a great laptop.

00:37:54.000 It doesn't have...

00:37:55.000 The charger is this weird...

00:37:57.000 It's not like MagSafe, but it's this slot charger thing where it goes in and out easily, but also doesn't have a card reader.

00:38:05.000 Really?

00:38:06.000 Yeah, a lot of things that I kind of hoped a laptop would have.

00:38:10.000 Yeah, this thing is everything.

00:38:12.000 This thing is regular USB, USB-C. This has one full-size USB port, a headphone jack, and what looks like...

00:38:20.000 This has HDMI. Yeah, this does not have that.

00:38:23.000 I'm a big fan of this thing.

00:38:24.000 And then they make a 15-inch version of it as well.

00:38:28.000 This is the, I guess...

00:38:29.000 I don't know how big that is.

00:38:33.000 So what do you do, like, mostly on the laptop stuff?

00:38:35.000 Mostly writing.

00:38:36.000 Writing and then getting online. 0.99

00:38:38.000 Just online bullshit. 0.98

00:38:39.000 But no software, really. 0.97

00:38:41.000 I'm not really running anything other than writing programs.

00:38:44.000 Microsoft Word, which is native, right?

00:38:46.000 Yeah.

00:38:47.000 Yeah, I mean, you could probably get away with any number of I like to do photo editing a lot, and so basically I have to have some way to read memory cards.

00:39:04.000 MacBook Pro doesn't.

00:39:05.000 It just has a lot of USB-C ports, so I just have that dongle, plug in the USB card reader, and then I'm good.

00:39:11.000 This one, I'll have to get a USB card reader also for it, and then get Lightroom, and then I'm good.

00:39:16.000 You'll have to get a regular USB card reader, which is like five years ago.

00:39:20.000 A little less common.

00:39:21.000 It's still easy to find, but eventually it'll be like 2020, and I'm like, I don't want this in 2020. Yeah, that Razer Pro, the Razer Blade Pro that we were talking about, what's interesting about that is it has a trackpad on the right-hand side, like a mouse, like as if the mouse is on the right.

00:39:37.000 And then it has this enormous keyboard, and a mechanical keyboard, which I'm a really big fan of.

00:39:42.000 I like those clicky, mechanical...

00:39:45.000 It's a true desktop replacement.

00:39:46.000 Yeah, look at that thing. 0.99

00:39:48.000 Yeah, it's massive.

00:39:49.000 Plus, look at all the cool colors.

00:39:51.000 It's so pretty.

00:39:52.000 I have the 15-inch with the RGB. They love their RGB. I still...

00:39:56.000 That's such a Razer thing because they have a phone now.

00:39:59.000 I don't know if you know the Razer phone.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, I have it.

00:40:00.000 The Razer phone, too, has RGB glowing backlight.

00:40:04.000 It's hilarious, but that's their own aesthetic.

00:40:08.000 What does RGB stand for?

00:40:09.000 Just red, green, blue.

00:40:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:40:12.000 Like the fact that you can cycle between colors or whatever at any time.

00:40:15.000 Yeah.

00:40:17.000 It's almost pointless.

00:40:19.000 It's technically a backlight, which is useful, but other than that, you're just kind of getting into the gamer aesthetic, which is pretty fun.

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:28.000 Well, it's a fantastic thing if you're into games.

00:40:32.000 That thing, literally, you can play high-end games at very high frame rates.

00:40:38.000 I don't know what kind of battery life it has.

00:40:42.000 It's probably not that great.

00:40:43.000 It's a 4K. But so much juice and so much screen.

00:40:47.000 So that's a 4K laptop with a desktop GPU in it.

00:40:50.000 So there's a 4K model versus a full HD model?

00:40:54.000 And I think the 4K has a lower max frame rate, if I'm not...

00:40:59.000 So what is the difference in full HD model?

00:41:02.000 So I think the full HD model is a higher...

00:41:04.000 Yeah, 120Hz 1080p or probably 60Hz 4K. Yeah.

00:41:10.000 So if you're gaming, you'll probably go with the 1080p, but then you get your higher frame rates and you'll enjoy games better on that.

00:41:16.000 But if you're photo editing, then you'll probably go with the 4K and you get that desktop power.

00:41:22.000 Or video editing, for example.

00:41:24.000 But I don't think the battery life would be very long on a 4K laptop.

00:41:29.000 It seems hard to imagine.

00:41:30.000 It's so big.

00:41:32.000 Yeah.

00:41:33.000 Like, find out what it says in terms of the battery life.

00:41:36.000 So is welcome. 0.99

00:41:37.000 Like, if you're just playing a game and you're not plugged in, you're kind of fucked. 0.96

00:41:40.000 Yeah, if you're that guy, you're walking around with the power cable all the time. 0.99

00:41:44.000 Yeah.

00:41:45.000 100%.

00:41:45.000 You're walking to a new room, plugging it in, and then setting up there.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 Which is better than a desktop, technically.

00:41:51.000 But yeah, you're walking around with the power all the time.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, better than a desktop technically, but is it as powerful as a desktop?

00:41:57.000 Almost.

00:41:57.000 Like, if you get a real gaming desktop.

00:41:59.000 Almost.

00:41:59.000 I think their goal is to get as close to a desktop as they reasonably can, and then give you the ability to take it places quickly.

00:42:09.000 What does this say about the, uh... 1.00

00:42:11.000 Oh, you fucking motherfucker. 1.00

00:42:14.000 Disabled... 1.00

00:42:14.000 Every website ever, man. 1.00

00:42:15.000 Everybody's pop-ups.

00:42:17.000 Ugh.

00:42:18.000 So gross. 0.78

00:42:20.000 Look at this world we live in now.

00:42:22.000 Why do I want notifications from your website?

00:42:25.000 I saw a great GIF the other day.

00:42:27.000 Am I saying that right?

00:42:28.000 GIF? Of like every website where like you go onto this...

00:42:31.000 You don't even get to the content.

00:42:33.000 It's just...

00:42:34.000 Three hours, 52 minutes battery life.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, that sounds about right.

00:42:38.000 Movie test.

00:42:39.000 For just watching a movie.

00:42:40.000 That's still pretty hilariously low.

00:42:41.000 So that means you're at 100%, you watch a movie, and then it's dead.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, that's hilariously low.

00:42:47.000 Yeah.

00:42:47.000 Because if you watch a movie on a MacBook Pro, you've got plenty of juice left after that movie's over.

00:42:53.000 You might be able to watch three or four movies.

00:42:55.000 There you go.

00:42:55.000 Where's the battery?

00:42:56.000 99-watt-hour battery.

00:42:58.000 That's actually a huge battery, but still.

00:43:01.000 Yeah, that's one of the things that I like about, not this model of Lenovo, but some of the Thinkpads have a swappable battery that you could swap while it's on.

00:43:11.000 Oh, that's old school.

00:43:11.000 Oh, what?

00:43:12.000 Yes.

00:43:13.000 Oh, yeah, I used to be able to do that.

00:43:14.000 Yeah, that's definitely rare.

00:43:16.000 Two batteries.

00:43:16.000 There's an internal battery and there's an external battery.

00:43:18.000 So you pop out the external battery, which is a big, thick band in the back if you want to get the full jammy that goes like 25 fucking hours. 0.97

00:43:25.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:43:26.000 And if you pop that sucker out, you could do it while this is still running. 0.98

00:43:29.000 And it doesn't shut off. 0.99

00:43:31.000 Pop the new one in.

00:43:32.000 Bam! 0.98

00:43:32.000 Hot swapping. 0.98

00:43:33.000 Hot swapping.

00:43:34.000 But I haven't had a laptop with that since like seven years ago probably.

00:43:39.000 It's been a long time.

00:43:40.000 Yeah.

00:43:41.000 Well, I think ThinkPads are mostly business oriented.

00:43:44.000 I mean, that's really mostly what people are using them for.

00:43:47.000 Yeah.

00:43:48.000 But it's, you know, there's that balance of like, what are you looking for?

00:43:52.000 Like, are you looking for something that can do everything?

00:43:54.000 Are you looking for something that's just, I mean, most people, for a lot of people, you could really get by with one of those Google Chromebooks.

00:44:01.000 It doesn't have much storage at all.

00:44:03.000 That's where I'll probably end up getting my parents into a lot, like, You're good to go.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, that's another one of the things about, especially when I was talking about this phone, not only does it only have 4 gigs of RAM, it also only has 64 gigs of storage.

00:44:41.000 That's it?

00:44:42.000 There's a 64 and a 128. And there's a lot of phones now that have like 256, 512, and then expandable storage via microSD.

00:44:50.000 And the reasoning Google is giving, which I actually subscribe to, is everything just goes through the cloud.

00:44:56.000 Like, the only thing I keep offline is my Spotify library and podcasts.

00:45:01.000 So my whole Spotify, whatever, is like 30 gigs.

00:45:04.000 And then whatever podcast I have is a couple more gigs.

00:45:07.000 I don't need a 512 gig phone for everything I usually keep offline.

00:45:12.000 I have a couple big apps, but not really.

00:45:14.000 And then all the photos I take get uploaded automatically to Google Photos in full resolution.

00:45:20.000 And I never really have to keep all of them locally.

00:45:23.000 So every photo I've ever taken in full resolution is on my phone, even though I only have 128 gigs of storage.

00:45:29.000 Now, when you use the Google version of whatever iPhoto is, iPhoto uploads everything to the cloud.

00:45:37.000 It's really simple.

00:45:38.000 When you get a new phone, everything loads up to it.

00:45:40.000 Does the same thing happen with Google?

00:45:41.000 Same thing.

00:45:42.000 Google Photos.

00:45:42.000 Basically just as good?

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:43.000 And you can use it on an iPhone, which you don't have to.

00:45:45.000 But yeah, Google Photos.

00:45:46.000 I have Google Photos on my iPhone.

00:45:48.000 So every time I take great photos on this phone, they're on my iPhone.

00:45:51.000 Oh, that is actually nice.

00:45:53.000 So having the app is pretty useful.

00:45:55.000 That's nice.

00:45:56.000 Yeah.

00:45:56.000 And I know there's a thing that's one of the things that people really love about iPhones is that airdrop feature.

00:46:01.000 That's very nice.

00:46:02.000 Yeah, that's one of the best Apple-only features.

00:46:06.000 Yeah, but don't they have an Android?

00:46:08.000 There's an Android drop, too, now.

00:46:10.000 I know that because I've used it to send things from my Samsung phone to my Apple phone.

00:46:20.000 Possibly.

00:46:20.000 It's not like a first-party thing.

00:46:23.000 NFC is useful when I want to send something between two Android phones at NFC. But this is something I recently...

00:46:31.000 I wasn't really using AirDrop until recently.

00:46:32.000 And then I was like, oh wait, I do have a Mac and an iPhone.

00:46:35.000 I can just transfer files back and forth.

00:46:38.000 And we started doing that in the office a lot.

00:46:41.000 We have a bunch of Macs and iPhones in the office.

00:46:43.000 So we started passing files back and forth.

00:46:45.000 And then one day I was trying to do it on my Android phone.

00:46:48.000 I was like, wow, this is like a bummer.

00:46:49.000 I have to go into like Dropbox and upload it and then download it.

00:46:52.000 And just this couple extra steps were a pain.

00:46:55.000 And it made me really appreciate how good AirDrop is.

00:46:58.000 AirDrop's pretty good.

00:46:59.000 Apple's really good at making things super simple.

00:47:02.000 Like you don't ever really have to update things until the OS updates and it's pretty rare.

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.000 Everything works really good.

00:47:10.000 You don't really even worry about viruses or anything like that.

00:47:15.000 There's a lot they do that's really excellent.

00:47:18.000 Yeah.

00:47:19.000 But I feel like they're running on the momentum of Steve Jobs' maniacal vision.

00:47:25.000 You know?

00:47:26.000 Yeah.

00:47:27.000 Don't you, kind of?

00:47:29.000 There's been a lot of Apple's changed or Apple's not the same since No More Steve, which is true, obviously.

00:47:37.000 But they're also like, their momentum, like how can you not?

00:47:42.000 Like they're insane.

00:47:43.000 They're a trillion dollar company now.

00:47:45.000 They continue to make iPhones that look the same that they did before.

00:47:48.000 Nine years ago, like, why not?

00:47:51.000 And if people keep buying them, of course, they'll probably never have a reason to change a lot of those things.

00:47:56.000 It's just a different kind of company now before. 1.00

00:47:57.000 I mean, he was generally regarded as an asshole. 1.00

00:48:01.000 Like, just a crazy... 1.00

00:48:04.000 Whip cracking.

00:48:05.000 Micromanaging.

00:48:06.000 Yeah, just a nut.

00:48:08.000 Like, there's that famous thing of him trying to use, I forget what the device was, but it wasn't working during one of his...

00:48:15.000 Oh, on stage.

00:48:15.000 Yeah, I remember that live.

00:48:16.000 And he threw it.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, he was like, it was casual, but it was hilarious.

00:48:19.000 There was anger to it, though.

00:48:21.000 Well, because someone definitely got fired within minutes of that happening.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 And that's happened on stage.

00:48:27.000 Like, things mess up on stage.

00:48:28.000 Like, Yeah.

00:48:29.000 It's going to happen.

00:48:30.000 A couple years ago, there was an Apple event where I'm pretty sure Steve was on stage trying to get something to work, like in a demo.

00:48:38.000 And if you've ever been or seen an Apple event, the entire audience or half of it...

00:48:45.000 Half of the audience is just people typing, like, blogging, like, exactly what's going on.

00:48:51.000 So they're all connected to the internet.

00:48:52.000 They're live blogging.

00:48:53.000 Yeah, so Steve is like, get me one that works.

00:48:55.000 Look at his face.

00:48:57.000 This is the thing.

00:48:57.000 Like, back that up a little bit and give me some volume.

00:49:01.000 Look at this.

00:49:03.000 Here, take that.

00:49:07.000 Okay.

00:49:12.000 Well, let an expert see if he can turn it on.

00:49:15.000 There's an anger. 1.00

00:49:16.000 Well, you know, he was like, you motherfuckers! 1.00

00:49:19.000 How is that my speech? 1.00

00:49:20.000 After the show, he was definitely doing that.

00:49:23.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, so there's another event where something wasn't working, and he's like, I need everyone in this room to turn your Wi-Fi off so that this will work.

00:49:30.000 I need everyone to stop blogging, close your laptops, get off the Wi-Fi, and then this will work.

00:49:36.000 And it was kind of like a couple minutes of like, haha, that's funny.

00:49:39.000 Maybe, is he serious?

00:49:41.000 And like slowly, like everyone did close their...

00:49:44.000 He's like, everyone get off the Wi-Fi, everyone close your computers right now, and this is going to work.

00:49:49.000 And he did it.

00:49:49.000 What was the issue?

00:49:50.000 I don't remember exactly.

00:49:51.000 It must have been some wireless related getting something to load or work.

00:49:54.000 But that was pretty hilarious to me. 1.00

00:49:57.000 I feel like if you want things to operate at the speed of Apple when he was alive, you kind of have to be a fucking crazy asshole. 1.00

00:50:03.000 Yeah, you have to have that next level. 0.99

00:50:06.000 First of all, you need a vision of what you want it to be, and then you need to be insane enough to try to get people to do that.

00:50:12.000 Well, he also was, according to, is this it right here?

00:50:16.000 Oh, Safari demo, yeah.

00:50:18.000 Sorry guys, I don't know what's going on.

00:50:26.000 It's a four-minute video, but this is...

00:50:28.000 Yeah, so it's failing to load...

00:50:34.000 So everyone's using the local Wi-Fi, and the Wi-Fi is just getting taxed.

00:50:38.000 The event Wi-Fi is getting crushed.

00:50:43.000 Someone said Verizon. 1.00

00:50:46.000 Yeah, fuck AT&T. Yeah. 1.00

00:50:52.000 Yeah, he was just having Wi-Fi issues with that.

00:50:54.000 See if I can find the moment where he said it.

00:50:56.000 Mmm.

00:51:00.000 Yeah, 20 minutes later.

00:51:02.000 Now, before I begin number six...

00:51:05.000 So, yeah, I don't know.

00:51:11.000 We figured out why my demo crashed.

00:51:15.000 Why did it crash?

00:51:15.000 Because there are 570 WiFi base stations operating in this room.

00:51:21.000 Okay?

00:51:22.000 We can't deal with that.

00:51:24.000 So we have two choices.

00:51:26.000 Either I've got some more demos that are really great that I'd like to show you.

00:51:31.000 So we either turn off all the stuff and see the demos or we give up and I don't show you the demos.

00:51:36.000 Would you like to see the demos or not?

00:51:42.000 I think everyone's hoping he'll just, like, try again and they don't have to turn it off.

00:51:46.000 Yeah.

00:51:53.000 Look at that.

00:52:01.000 And the whole crowd is everyone...

00:52:02.000 The only reason they're there is to live blog.

00:52:05.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 So, like, alright, one last tweet, because Steve's telling me to turn the Wi-Fi off.

00:52:12.000 30 minutes.

00:52:16.000 That's for FaceTime.

00:52:19.000 That's another thing.

00:52:20.000 Like, FaceTime is another proprietary thing that Apple has.

00:52:23.000 It's really excellent.

00:52:24.000 And it's built into the contacts.

00:52:26.000 It works perfectly.

00:52:27.000 Yeah.

00:52:28.000 You know, just everyone with an iPhone, you can do it with them.

00:52:31.000 Just pow-pow.

00:52:33.000 I... Like, that's a massive...

00:52:34.000 That and iMessage are, like, two of the biggest reasons people refuse to even try an Android phone.

00:52:40.000 So I'm like, alright, well, clearly Google's mission should be to get iMessage on Android, right?

00:52:46.000 Like, that should be, like, a...

00:52:48.000 And Apple will never let that happen.

00:52:51.000 They know that they can hold people hostage on iOS as long as they want if they can't get iMessage anywhere else and FaceTime and things like that.

00:52:59.000 iMessage, FaceTime, AirDrop, walled garden.

00:53:03.000 Yep.

00:53:04.000 Wonderful walled garden of Apple.

00:53:05.000 I made a whole video about this.

00:53:07.000 The whole ecosystem, it's real.

00:53:10.000 It's a real major advantage.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:53:14.000 And they've got that nailed.

00:53:15.000 They really do.

00:53:17.000 Google's tried to make their own versions of these things, too.

00:53:20.000 Well, just like they try to do Google +, and everybody was like, yeah, good luck with that.

00:53:24.000 I have a friend who was an executive of Google.

00:53:26.000 It was hilarious.

00:53:27.000 She was always telling me how great Google +, is. 1.00

00:53:29.000 I'm like, that shit's dead in the water. 0.98

00:53:31.000 The thing is, Google +, even though only, like, nine people used it, it was great. 1.00

00:53:36.000 I'm sure.

00:53:37.000 It was really good.

00:53:38.000 Like, all the things that they let you do that I wish Facebook would let us do, of, like, Sharing with certain groups of people and, like, all these different things with circles. 0.95

00:53:45.000 It was kind of a shit show with, like, how they did it. 0.90

00:53:48.000 But it's good. 1.00

00:53:49.000 Like, it was good. 0.69

00:53:50.000 Anyway, so it's going to die now.

00:53:52.000 And that's kind of sad.

00:53:53.000 It is finally going to die.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, they had this whole security breach thing, which is also a weird story.

00:53:59.000 But then eventually they're like, you know what?

00:54:01.000 We're shutting it down.

00:54:02.000 Really?

00:54:02.000 Yeah.

00:54:03.000 I want to call my friend up and go, ha, ha, told you.

00:54:06.000 So it's going to be finally no more Google +, but Google keeps trying to do this.

00:54:13.000 They keep calling it a universal message service.

00:54:16.000 And everyone's like, oh, iMessage for Android.

00:54:18.000 You're going to make your own.

00:54:19.000 Great.

00:54:19.000 And they make a Allo, Duo, Hangouts.

00:54:24.000 They have all these halfway there things that kind of tie into Android and are sort of like FaceTime and iMessage, but not really.

00:54:34.000 And it's just not well done, and it's not convincing anyone.

00:54:38.000 Now, I know there's been some third-party attempts to figure out how to put iMessage on Android phones.

00:54:43.000 And that you can get some sort of an app that allows you to use iMessage.

00:54:49.000 It's probably really clunky and forward-y.

00:54:52.000 Yeah.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, I haven't tried that.

00:54:53.000 I haven't either.

00:54:54.000 I imagine it's horrible.

00:54:56.000 Yeah, I have the Note 9, like I said, and I was thinking about switching over to it, and I was like, oh, I'll use this pen.

00:55:01.000 I never used that pen once.

00:55:03.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:55:05.000 As a reviewer, I'm always trying to figure out what is a real, genuine, use-it-everyday feature that's worth paying extra for, and what is a cool demo feature that'll get you to brag about the phone and show your friends, but you'll never use it.

00:55:19.000 Yeah.

00:55:20.000 And I've always been split on the S Pen.

00:55:22.000 Is that a thing people really use all the time?

00:55:25.000 And I've been kind of somewhat convinced there's people who are like, yeah, I use the S Pen every day. 0.57

00:55:30.000 I take notes on my phone.

00:55:31.000 I use that app.

00:55:33.000 And I'm like, I try.

00:55:35.000 I try.

00:55:36.000 I had this little point where I was like, yeah, I'm going to do lock screen notes.

00:55:39.000 Every time I want to remember something, I'm going to write it down.

00:55:42.000 And I just never got into it.

00:55:44.000 So, like, I'm usually pretty good about, like, dividing things into buckets of, like, yes, this is something we will use and is worth paying.

00:55:51.000 This is dumb, but it's really cool to demo and it will just sell people and they'll never use it again.

00:55:56.000 Those two buckets are very clear. 0.98

00:55:57.000 The S Pencil has been in the middle for me.

00:55:59.000 The lock screen thing is weird, too, because it doesn't work that smooth.

00:56:03.000 The lock screen notes...

00:56:04.000 It's gotten better.

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:05.000 It's a little clunky, and then you don't just get it right there.

00:56:08.000 It saves it to notes.

00:56:10.000 Yeah.

00:56:10.000 So you have to go to notes together.

00:56:11.000 And you have to go to the notes app.

00:56:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:13.000 My thought was, I'm going to use this, and I'm going to put my set list on my phone, and that way any time I go to the lock screen, the set list will be there.

00:56:22.000 I'll just be able to scroll through my set list when I go on stage.

00:56:25.000 Yeah.

00:56:26.000 But it doesn't work like that.

00:56:27.000 It's not there.

00:56:27.000 No, I gotta go to notes.

00:56:29.000 Right.

00:56:29.000 I'm like, well, what is this then?

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:31.000 Yeah, so it's just kind of...

00:56:32.000 Weird.

00:56:33.000 Halfway there.

00:56:34.000 But I want to talk to someone who's like, yeah, I buy the note every year because I gotta have the pen.

00:56:38.000 There's gotta be someone up there.

00:56:40.000 That's what I think, but...

00:56:41.000 Well, one thing that is kind of cool about it that I've never used once, but kind of cool about it is the fact that you can use that pen as a remote control.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, that's definitely a...

00:56:49.000 Take photographs.

00:56:50.000 Firmly in the second bucket of, like, great demo.

00:56:53.000 Look, I'm halfway across the room taking a selfie.

00:56:55.000 That's cool, right?

00:56:56.000 Yeah.

00:56:56.000 Yeah, and then you'll never use that.

00:56:57.000 Never use it.

00:56:58.000 And then also using it as a remote control for music and for video.

00:57:02.000 You can map it to all kinds of crazy things.

00:57:04.000 It's actually a really well-thought-out feature.

00:57:06.000 Yeah.

00:57:06.000 Like, it's Bluetooth, and the S Pen has its own battery now, so you put the battery in the phone, and it charges the stylus very quickly.

00:57:14.000 In a couple seconds, you get, like, half the battery.

00:57:16.000 Like, it's really well thought out.

00:57:18.000 Yeah.

00:57:18.000 But am I ever going to use that?

00:57:21.000 Probably not.

00:57:21.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 The battery's huge, too.

00:57:23.000 It's got a 4,000 milliamp battery as opposed to the iPhone, which is, what, 33?

00:57:28.000 Even the big one's like a 31 or a 3200. Is that that low?

00:57:31.000 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 But, I mean, iPhones have never needed the number on paper to be big to be well-optimized.

00:57:37.000 Because of software.

00:57:38.000 Yeah, software.

00:57:38.000 But they've done tests where they did benchmark tests between the Note and the iPhone X, what is it, Max?

00:57:45.000 The XS Max.

00:57:46.000 How do you say it?

00:57:46.000 The XS Max.

00:57:47.000 Yeah.

00:57:48.000 It's not, the Note crushes it.

00:57:51.000 Yeah.

00:57:52.000 Yeah, no, Samsung's getting better with optimization too, which is awesome that they crush it.

00:57:56.000 They used to be kind of scared of batteries in the Notes for obvious reasons.

00:57:59.000 Yeah, I wonder why.

00:58:00.000 But they've finally gotten better at that and they're doing really well. 0.98

00:58:03.000 It's amazing that they bounced back from that at all because people fucking died, didn't they? 0.99

00:58:07.000 That's insane. 0.99

00:58:08.000 I don't think anyone died.

00:58:09.000 Well, one guy, I don't know what happened to him, but there was a famous guy who was a tech guy who died because his battery exploded and his house caught on fire and he died in the fire.

00:58:19.000 Really?

00:58:20.000 I don't know what phone he was using, though.

00:58:22.000 Wow.

00:58:23.000 I don't think it was a note.

00:58:25.000 Cryptocurrency guy.

00:58:27.000 I follow the note pretty closely because I had a couple of them just because I was in the middle of reviewing it and using it.

00:58:33.000 I carried one every day.

00:58:34.000 It starts getting banned, starts getting caught on fire.

00:58:37.000 You can't fly with it.

00:58:38.000 I followed that all very closely and all the cases of...

00:58:42.000 Because it started off with not only were the Note 7s starting to explode, but they started recalling them and sending people replacements and then the replacements started to explode.

00:58:52.000 At that point, I was like, this is amazing.

00:58:54.000 I need to follow this very closely.

00:58:57.000 He had a BlackBerry and a Huawei and they don't know which one exploded.

00:59:01.000 Probably the Huawei.

00:59:02.000 Probably the assassination.

00:59:04.000 I've never...

00:59:05.000 Yeah.

00:59:06.000 That's a weird...

00:59:07.000 He actually was a CEO. Cradle Fund CEO, Nazrin Hassan.

00:59:11.000 And it caught his whole house on fire.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, he died after his smartphones pulled and catches fire in his bedroom.

00:59:17.000 That is really extreme, yeah. 0.99

00:59:19.000 It's a fucked up way to go. 0.99

00:59:21.000 They can't mess around. 0.97

00:59:21.000 So that's when your phone starts exploding and your Samsung, you have to fix that. 0.97

00:59:26.000 There was that famous video of the guy who parked his car in the driveway and put his phone in the charger and left it there, and he came outside to his car bursting into flames.

00:59:36.000 His whole car was on fire.

00:59:38.000 Oh my god.

00:59:39.000 That's horrible.

00:59:40.000 Especially in a gas car with literal flammable liquids in it.

00:59:44.000 Right.

00:59:44.000 Yeah.

00:59:44.000 Luckily, it wasn't in his garage.

00:59:46.000 It was in his driveway.

00:59:48.000 That is nuts. 1.00

00:59:49.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:59:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:50.000 It's amazing they've bounced back from that, though, because they really have.

00:59:53.000 Yeah.

00:59:53.000 Actually, that's been impressive of their reputation.

00:59:56.000 So in the reviewer community, I watch all my friends' videos about the Note when it came out.

01:00:01.000 We stopped making explosion jokes this year.

01:00:03.000 I noticed that.

01:00:04.000 The Galaxy Note 7 had all the explosion jokes.

01:00:07.000 Note 8 came out.

01:00:08.000 All the explosion jokes.

01:00:10.000 Last year it exploded, guys.

01:00:11.000 So what have they done this year?

01:00:13.000 That's better.

01:00:13.000 Now we're on Note 9, and I think we're kind of over it.

01:00:16.000 Two years.

01:00:17.000 That's how long it takes.

01:00:18.000 Well, that's today, though.

01:00:20.000 I mean, the short cycle of news today.

01:00:23.000 Like, things come and go so quickly.

01:00:25.000 But I wonder if that would have happened to an iPhone.

01:00:28.000 What kind of nightmare that would have been.

01:00:30.000 I also think there's probably no way it would have happened to an iPhone.

01:00:33.000 You would think there's no way it would happen to Samsung, but somehow it did.

01:00:37.000 But there's this whole process of getting a battery supplier for your phone and then trusting their quality testing and then using that supplier for your manufacturing and all that.

01:00:46.000 Yeah.

01:00:47.000 And I don't know how different that process is for Samsung versus other manufacturers like Apple, but it just seems like Apple would never let that sort of oversight slip.

01:00:58.000 Right.

01:00:59.000 Hmm, I wonder.

01:01:00.000 But if it did, how crazy would that have been?

01:01:01.000 Well, Samsung comes out with new phones way quicker, right?

01:01:06.000 So they come out with phones more often, but they update their lineups at the same rate, like once a year for Note, and also once a year for Galaxy S. But since they're six months apart, it looks like they made four new phones.

01:01:20.000 So we're going to get a new phone every April.

01:01:23.000 Galaxy S10 will come out in April.

01:01:24.000 And they all get Galaxy Note in September.

01:01:28.000 It's like, well, that's only six months.

01:01:29.000 Well, that's part of a different lineup.

01:01:31.000 So like Galaxy S is every year.

01:01:32.000 Galaxy Note is every year.

01:01:33.000 They have all these other lineups.

01:01:34.000 So they make a lot more phones for sure.

01:01:37.000 And are they still doing the sport?

01:01:38.000 Because they had that sport model.

01:01:40.000 The Active.

01:01:41.000 I think they are still.

01:01:43.000 It's not nearly as special seeming to them as it used to be.

01:01:48.000 They used to really put out separate commercials for it and they'd have all this hype.

01:01:51.000 I remember Galaxy S7 Active was a big deal.

01:01:54.000 I don't even know if there is a Galaxy S9 Active.

01:01:57.000 I don't believe there is.

01:01:58.000 There might not be.

01:01:58.000 It was a rumor that it was coming out and that it was going to be completely waterproof and shock resistant.

01:02:03.000 It was going to have a rubberized case.

01:02:04.000 Right.

01:02:05.000 And it was going to have an enormous battery life.

01:02:07.000 But they didn't.

01:02:08.000 They haven't released it.

01:02:09.000 The 9 was going to have the same size battery as the Note 9, but the regular size 9 screen.

01:02:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:02:18.000 So 4,000 milliamp battery, but in the S9 screen.

01:02:22.000 Right.

01:02:22.000 Which would have been massive.

01:02:24.000 Yeah.

01:02:24.000 I mean, that would have been incredible.

01:02:27.000 I guess people just didn't buy it as much.

01:02:30.000 Yeah.

01:02:30.000 I don't think people knew about it.

01:02:32.000 I think it's one of those deals.

01:02:34.000 Yeah.

01:02:35.000 I love battery life.

01:02:36.000 I'm always scared that my phone's going to run out of battery. 0.98

01:02:38.000 I know it's ridiculous because it very rarely does, but I'm always like, fuck, what if it runs out of battery? 0.98

01:02:42.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:02:43.000 When I hear about the iPhone's battery not being so good, I've heard that the XS... Regular has better battery life than the XS Max because the Max has the larger screen.

01:02:58.000 I think they're about the same.

01:03:00.000 I think the standby time on the XS Max is better because of the bigger battery.

01:03:05.000 But when you do use your screen a lot, they kind of diminish down to the same number, I think.

01:03:11.000 And then this iPhone XR, which I've just started using, seems to have a better battery life than both of them.

01:03:16.000 This is the less expensive version.

01:03:17.000 This is the $750 IPS LCD version of the iPhone X. Yeah, the colors and all that.

01:03:24.000 Now, how much of a factor is that in everyday use?

01:03:28.000 Do you notice the difference?

01:03:29.000 The battery life?

01:03:29.000 Yeah.

01:03:30.000 No, the image quality not being as good with the different screen.

01:03:33.000 Yeah.

01:03:33.000 So that's the only factor, right?

01:03:34.000 Are the internal components the same?

01:03:36.000 They are the same.

01:03:37.000 It's one gig less of RAM, weirdly.

01:03:39.000 But yeah, all the rest of the internals are the same.

01:03:41.000 So what does a standard one have?

01:03:43.000 Six?

01:03:43.000 So four gigs of RAM in every iPhone still.

01:03:45.000 Yeah.

01:03:45.000 And then three gigs in the XR. And then also one camera instead of two.

01:03:50.000 And then an aluminum rail on the side.

01:03:53.000 I call it a rail, but the outside's aluminum instead of stainless steel.

01:03:56.000 So the iPhone's got the shiny stainless steel outside.

01:04:00.000 The...

01:04:01.000 Yeah, the screen is still pretty decent.

01:04:03.000 I know everyone likes to trash on it because it's only 828p or so.

01:04:09.000 It's like a 720p screen, roughly.

01:04:11.000 This is the R? The R. But using it or just looking at it, it looks fine.

01:04:17.000 Like an Apple iPhone 8. Yeah, exactly.

01:04:20.000 It's the same pixel density as an iPhone 8. Which is fine.

01:04:23.000 Which is fine for most people.

01:04:24.000 So if you get too caught up on the number, which is not the typical iPhone XR buyer...

01:04:28.000 Then it's going to look bad.

01:04:30.000 But if you just look at the screen and use it, which is most people walking in a store and just saying, hey, this looks fine and it's $250 cheaper, I think I'll just get this one.

01:04:38.000 That's why I think the XR is going to be a great seller for Apple.

01:04:42.000 Yeah, it sounds like it.

01:04:43.000 Now, when you switch to those battery pack cases, now you have a brick in your pocket.

01:04:49.000 It's huge.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, that's a big phone already, too.

01:04:52.000 So a 6.1-inch screen on that XR, and then this big battery on the back, yeah, it's just going to be massive.

01:04:58.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:04:58.000 I mean, I haven't seen any XS Max with a case that has a battery in it, but jeez.

01:05:04.000 I wouldn't even try.

01:05:05.000 It's just wouldn't even fit in your pocket anymore.

01:05:07.000 But it's great if you go on a trip somewhere, and you might be in some janky place that doesn't have power.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, like a travel...

01:05:16.000 Version of your setup.

01:05:18.000 Yeah.

01:05:19.000 It's just a big old brick case.

01:05:22.000 Yeah.

01:05:23.000 I'm not a case person.

01:05:24.000 Yeah, you don't have any cases, huh?

01:05:25.000 No, I don't do cases.

01:05:27.000 But you switch phones so often, even if you drop them.

01:05:29.000 That's what people always say.

01:05:30.000 You got other ones that pop a SIM card out.

01:05:31.000 I still take good care of my phones.

01:05:33.000 People are like, oh, you get a new phone every two weeks.

01:05:35.000 You might be right, but I still take really good care of my phones.

01:05:38.000 I actually did kind of getting out of my car, this slid out of my pocket, which is kind of a nightmare.

01:05:44.000 And it took one bounce before I like sort of half caught it.

01:05:47.000 So I got this little scratch on the corner.

01:05:49.000 That's the Google phone.

01:05:50.000 It's the Google phone, but it's fine.

01:05:52.000 I always question people that don't have cases.

01:05:55.000 I'm like, ooh, you're one of those people.

01:05:57.000 My friend Andrew Santino, he doesn't put a case on anything.

01:06:01.000 He was more a design person.

01:06:05.000 He's like, look how beautiful this is.

01:06:06.000 Why would I put a case in this?

01:06:07.000 That's part of it.

01:06:08.000 But Neil deGrasse Tyson had a really interesting perspective.

01:06:11.000 He said he takes his case and he flips it around in his hand constantly.

01:06:15.000 And he said if you go to watch cadets when they're learning how to handle guns, they're spitting their gun around and catching it.

01:06:22.000 He goes, why do you think they're doing that?

01:06:23.000 They're doing that so that they're always able to catch their gun, no matter what.

01:06:29.000 So he takes his phone and he flips it around in his hand all the time.

01:06:33.000 He does that so he's always able to...

01:06:36.000 Like a cadet.

01:06:37.000 That's awesome.

01:06:37.000 He's like, I don't drop my phone.

01:06:39.000 And he showed me.

01:06:40.000 He was like flipping it in between his fingers.

01:06:41.000 Like, oh.

01:06:42.000 I like...

01:06:43.000 See?

01:06:43.000 But that's him.

01:06:44.000 He's got this next level thought process behind everything.

01:06:49.000 That's fair.

01:06:49.000 Even not having a case on his phone.

01:06:50.000 So that means he's not a case person.

01:06:52.000 He's always got his phone.

01:06:53.000 Yeah, that's fine.

01:06:53.000 I actually like a case.

01:06:55.000 I like this case.

01:06:57.000 Which is a clear case.

01:06:58.000 And the reason why I like it is because it's more grippy in your hand.

01:07:02.000 There's more to it.

01:07:04.000 It's not slippery.

01:07:05.000 iPhones are the slipperiest phones.

01:07:07.000 The way they're shaped, they have the stainless steel and then they kind of just melt into this orb shape.

01:07:12.000 And it's by far the most common slide out of my pocket phone is the iPhone.

01:07:16.000 This phone has never slid out of my pocket, obviously.

01:07:19.000 And the OnePlus, you said that that was your favorite phone before the Google Pixel 3?

01:07:24.000 Yep.

01:07:25.000 Why do you like the Pixel 3 better than that phone?

01:07:28.000 Because I've heard great things about the OnePlus.

01:07:30.000 Yeah, I love the OnePlus still, and I would have no problem using it today, but this camera is so much better than every other phone, yeah.

01:07:37.000 Now, is that because you take a lot of photos for YouTube and blogging and that kind of thing?

01:07:43.000 Yeah, just social.

01:07:44.000 I tweet a lot of photos.

01:07:45.000 I Instagram a lot of photos.

01:07:47.000 That much better?

01:07:48.000 Yeah.

01:07:49.000 That much better.

01:07:49.000 Yeah.

01:07:50.000 Than the OnePlus, which is already a $600 phone.

01:07:53.000 And is the OnePlus, I mean, the Galaxy Note 9 is supposed to have a very good camera as well.

01:08:00.000 I can't tell the difference.

01:08:01.000 I'm not good enough to understand.

01:08:03.000 Most people won't until you put them next to each other.

01:08:06.000 And then you kind of go, oh, interesting.

01:08:09.000 When you put an iPhone photo next to a pixel photo, iPhones have notoriously great cameras.

01:08:17.000 Pixels have notoriously great cameras.

01:08:18.000 You might be totally fine with either one.

01:08:20.000 But if you put them next to each other, you will notice massive differences between the photos.

01:08:24.000 What do you notice?

01:08:25.000 Did you do any comparisons that are online that we could pull up right now?

01:08:29.000 My last one I compared Pixel 2 to iPhone X to OnePlus 5T. Yeah.

01:09:04.000 And a lot of times when you put them side by side, you'll notice iPhones like to boost the shadows a lot more so that they're much more evenly lit.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, this is the side.

01:09:13.000 A, B, C, D, and E. Which one do I like better?

01:09:18.000 And I already can tell immediately which one's the Pixel.

01:09:21.000 And you might not because I remember Pixel 2 had cooler colors and more contrast than any other one.

01:09:28.000 And this is a great backpack.

01:09:29.000 I kind of like E. Yeah.

01:09:31.000 So another thing about these is it helps to see it in a high resolution because the difference in detail and sharpness between them is another thing I paid attention to.

01:09:40.000 Which one's E? I want to say that was the OnePlus, but I forget now.

01:09:44.000 Which one's the Pixel?

01:09:45.000 I'm pretty sure B is the Pixel, because this gray backpack is starting to look a little bit blue.

01:09:50.000 And that was a big characteristic of the Pixel 2 from last year.

01:09:53.000 Right.

01:09:54.000 And that was a big issue with the screen as well, right?

01:09:57.000 The Pixel XL? Yeah, look at this contrast.

01:10:01.000 All these are pretty good, but when you see B, and you see how much more contrast that has, and you look at A, and how much it's lifted the shadows...

01:10:09.000 Yeah, E's got a pretty even tone.

01:10:11.000 And E is also the OnePlus?

01:10:13.000 I don't remember what E is.

01:10:15.000 I'd have to go back to the video.

01:10:16.000 Oh, so you switched them around with each one.

01:10:18.000 No, no, no.

01:10:18.000 Every time it was the same.

01:10:19.000 A is the same every time.

01:10:20.000 B is the same every time.

01:10:21.000 I know I'm already pretty sure that B is the Pixel.

01:10:24.000 Go to the top left one with the selfie.

01:10:28.000 Hmm.

01:10:29.000 So, again, like, that gray sweatshirt is starting to look blue in B, right?

01:10:34.000 In E, look how much higher, brighter those shadows are.

01:10:37.000 Like, my black hair looks kind of gray at that point in that one.

01:10:41.000 So there's a lot of things you don't notice until you put them side by side.

01:10:44.000 Hmm.

01:10:45.000 God, but so nitpicky.

01:10:47.000 They all look so good.

01:10:48.000 They all look pretty much, like, the same.

01:10:50.000 And C, but C, you're a little closer up.

01:10:53.000 Yeah, C is a little bit tighter, so I'm going to go with C as the iPhone because the iPhone has a little bit of a tighter selfie camera.

01:11:00.000 A lot of Android phones have a wider angle selfie camera because you can fit more people in them, but Apple's always told me they go with a tighter angle because there's less distortion and they want it to feel more natural.

01:11:09.000 You just take a picture of yourself and you look great.

01:11:12.000 Hmm...

01:11:14.000 Here we go.

01:11:14.000 iPhone X, Note 8, Pixel 2, and Hasselblad.

01:11:18.000 I did add a real camera into the mix. 0.98

01:11:22.000 Damn, that real camera looks pretty fucking good. 0.99

01:11:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:11:24.000 I hope so. 0.99

01:11:25.000 It's $10,000.

01:11:26.000 Does that real camera film or is that video as well?

01:11:31.000 It's a photo.

01:11:32.000 So it's a medium format 50 megapixel Hasselblad X1D. It's a crazy camera.

01:11:37.000 iPhone X looks pretty goddamn good right there. 0.91

01:11:39.000 It does.

01:11:40.000 But there's just a little bit more to the Pixel 2, right?

01:11:43.000 The Pixel 2 has...

01:11:44.000 So this is a portrait mode comparison.

01:11:46.000 So I remember I was trying to test the blurry background versus an actual good camera.

01:11:51.000 And whenever you look at these portrait mode photos, what they're doing is they're sort of trying to outline the subject, keep it sharp, and then blur the background artificially.

01:12:00.000 Right.

01:12:01.000 And year after year they've gotten better at this because the fall off between the blur isn't just like a cut out in real life.

01:12:06.000 You get sort of like a gradient of how much blur you have.

01:12:10.000 So Pixel 2 has typically the sharpest cut out and the best like separation between the background.

01:12:17.000 Where the iPhone kind of just takes the face, keeps the face sharp and then sort of has a more natural fall off so your body might not be in focus.

01:12:27.000 And Note 8, it's just not as good.

01:12:30.000 Yeah, and that image, that's a really...

01:12:33.000 In that one, you really see how good the Pixel 2 is.

01:12:36.000 Yeah.

01:12:38.000 And so Pixel 3 got better at that.

01:12:41.000 Really?

01:12:41.000 Especially, yeah.

01:12:42.000 And now you can change something Note was doing last year.

01:12:45.000 You can change how blurred the background is.

01:12:47.000 So on iPhone XS now, Pixel 3, Note 9, all of them, you can change how blurry the background is.

01:12:52.000 Now, I notice you have an Apple Watch on, though.

01:12:55.000 I do.

01:12:56.000 Best smartwatch in the game.

01:12:58.000 Is it?

01:12:59.000 By a lot.

01:13:00.000 By a lot?

01:13:00.000 By a lot, yeah.

01:13:02.000 That's why I'm an iPhone person.

01:13:04.000 Really?

01:13:04.000 Because of the watch?

01:13:05.000 I carry two phones all the time.

01:13:08.000 An Android phone of choice and an iPhone of choice.

01:13:11.000 So my Android phone of choice is my Pixel.

01:13:13.000 That's the main number, the main phone I usually use.

01:13:17.000 And my iPhone of choice I carry because there's still things that iPhones do better and I always carry whatever the best iPhone is.

01:13:23.000 A lot of things, it's media related.

01:13:25.000 It's like whenever I'm airdropping, like when I'm publishing a video on the go, like I have the thumbnail from airdrop on this phone.

01:13:30.000 But just things like Snapchat and Instagram, Instagram Stories, Instagram Live, a lot of apps with camera stuff are better optimized on the iPhone than they are on any Android phone because they're built for iPhone.

01:13:44.000 So I carry an iPhone and the best smartwatch is the Apple Watch Series 4. So I wear an Apple Watch Series 4 because it's good.

01:13:53.000 It's really good.

01:13:54.000 But you don't get text messages on your Apple Watch then.

01:13:57.000 No, I don't.

01:13:58.000 But do you want them?

01:14:01.000 Yeah, kind of.

01:14:02.000 I would love to be able to use a smartwatch this good with my Android phone.

01:14:08.000 I still haven't found one that good.

01:14:10.000 But I mainly am using this for fitness tracking now, which is kind of entertaining, just like keeping track of workouts and calories and standing hours and all the stuff it does.

01:14:20.000 It's pretty cool.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, I was talking to you before the show about the Sober October Fitness Challenge we're doing.

01:14:25.000 This is the first time I've ever worn a heart monitor and then seen actual scores.

01:14:30.000 There's a real crazy motivating factor of seeing an actual number.

01:14:35.000 The gamifying of fitness is really entertaining to me.

01:14:40.000 And it's what's kept me like...

01:14:41.000 I usually don't wear a smartwatch for very long, but I think it's been about a month and I just keep...

01:14:46.000 So there's a feature now where you can challenge people.

01:14:49.000 To a one week long challenge to whoever burns the most calories and has the most points or whatever.

01:14:55.000 There's like a point system.

01:14:56.000 Right.

01:14:57.000 And that gamification of fitness has been, I think, pretty special.

01:15:01.000 It's been pretty good.

01:15:01.000 Well, this contest has been really crazy with me and my friends.

01:15:05.000 So what are you trying to do?

01:15:06.000 Well, if the winner is going to get a belt, like a WWE style belt, it says Intergalactic Sober October Champion, and it has like...

01:15:18.000 Marijuana leaf with a line through it and a bottle of booze with a line through it.

01:15:23.000 And you wear these things, which is...

01:15:28.000 It's called a MyZone, and it works with an app.

01:15:33.000 It works pretty good, and it registers your heart rate, the amount of calories you burn, and it gives you a point system.

01:15:42.000 And the point system is, I don't know what they call it.

01:15:45.000 It's M-E-P-S. I don't know what it stands for. 0.98

01:15:47.000 But the amount of points over the month is what everyone's shooting for.

01:15:54.000 And so today we're at...

01:15:57.000 October the 23rd.

01:15:58.000 So we have eight days to go.

01:16:00.000 And I have worked out more in these 23 days than I have in like the last six months.

01:16:05.000 And I'm not exaggerating.

01:16:07.000 I put in five and a half hours yesterday.

01:16:10.000 Hard.

01:16:11.000 I got more than 900 points. 0.99

01:16:13.000 Then, after the podcast, I said, fuck it, we're gonna go for another 100. And I worked out and I got another 100 points. 0.98

01:16:19.000 Put in another hour.

01:16:21.000 It's maniacal, because you actually see the number, and because I can see the number, I can see all my friends' numbers.

01:16:28.000 And I'm way ahead, so I just keep telling them that I'm twisting the blade, because I'm so far ahead.

01:16:35.000 Like, right now, I am...

01:16:37.000 1,500 points away from everybody else. 0.99

01:16:41.000 Oh, Bert's trying to work out again, that slob. 1.00

01:16:44.000 So when you see somebody catching up, you're like, well, I better hit the gym today.

01:16:47.000 Exactly.

01:16:48.000 And so I'm planning on staying so far ahead that they must die in order to beat me.

01:16:54.000 The iPhone or the Apple Watch, when you have people connected with the fitness part of it, it will literally notify me when one of my friends has finished a workout.

01:17:04.000 And tell me how many points they just got.

01:17:07.000 As they finish it.

01:17:08.000 You hit the finish button and you know everyone's getting a notification.

01:17:12.000 That's interesting.

01:17:13.000 So I'm going to put in the extra four or five miles on the bike so that they get that notification that I did that.

01:17:18.000 It really does work.

01:17:19.000 I mean, there's no doubt about it.

01:17:22.000 Just having that external motivating factor and then seeing a number.

01:17:27.000 There's something about... 0.97

01:17:27.000 Like with this, with the MEPS, M-E-P-S, whatever the fuck that stands for. 0.97

01:17:31.000 Find out what that stands for because I don't even know what that stands for. 0.67

01:17:33.000 And I don't know how the Apple Watch measures points either.

01:17:35.000 I think there's a...

01:17:36.000 Because it's measuring...

01:17:37.000 I mean, there's a lot of sensors in this thing.

01:17:39.000 So not only is it a heart rate monitor, there's an accelerometer and a gyroscope.

01:17:42.000 So it knows when you're standing, knows when you're moving quickly.

01:17:45.000 And it basically just comes up with a points number at the end of the day.

01:17:49.000 And every time I fly, I just don't get any points because I just sit there.

01:17:53.000 Right.

01:17:53.000 But yeah, there's like a...

01:17:55.000 Live counter, constantly going, of you and your friends.

01:17:59.000 And you've got to have the highest number to win.

01:18:01.000 So, out of all the stuff that you do, my zone effort points, that's what it is.

01:18:05.000 That's the MEPS points.

01:18:06.000 But here's the thing about that MEPS points, and we were trying to figure out why...

01:18:10.000 It gives you the same amount of points for 80% of your max heart rate as it does for 90. So like the first day, I said, I'm just going to sprint and try to bury these guys.

01:18:20.000 So I put them in 90% for 35 minutes.

01:18:23.000 I was like, they can't do that. 0.99

01:18:25.000 I'm just going to do some shit they can't do. 0.95

01:18:27.000 But it doesn't give you any more points for 90%. 0.98

01:18:29.000 90% gives the exact amount of points as 80%.

01:18:32.000 So it's their own proprietary.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, see?

01:18:33.000 Those two there?

01:18:34.000 Fuckers. 1.00

01:18:35.000 Piece of shit. 1.00

01:18:36.000 It's so dumb. 1.00

01:18:37.000 So I think the reason why they did that is to keep people from killing themselves. 1.00

01:18:41.000 That's what I think.

01:18:42.000 Yeah, just get somewhere in the 80 to 90 range.

01:18:45.000 Fat Bert is always in the two and three.

01:18:48.000 Fat Bert never gets in yellow. 0.97

01:18:49.000 That slob. 1.00

01:18:50.000 He's just waddling around. 0.99

01:18:52.000 Waddling around with blue and green.

01:18:54.000 Mostly gray.

01:18:55.000 He gets a lot of gray.

01:18:56.000 He'll get gray for hours.

01:18:58.000 Just waddling, complaining, thinking about vodka, dreaming about food.

01:19:03.000 He's gonna watch this and hit the gym immediately.

01:19:05.000 He's at the gym right now.

01:19:07.000 He's at the gym right now.

01:19:08.000 Alright.

01:19:08.000 Trying to catch up.

01:19:10.000 He's always playing catch up.

01:19:12.000 Yeah.

01:19:12.000 It's the thing, you gotta stay ahead.

01:19:14.000 He's got to stay ahead.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, when you fall behind.

01:19:16.000 Like wolves in the distance.

01:19:17.000 You've got to think of them as wolves barking in the distance, chasing you. 0.99

01:19:21.000 Like, no fucking way. 1.00

01:19:22.000 You're not eating me, bitch. 1.00

01:19:23.000 Wolves 10 miles away are not going to get you. 1.00

01:19:25.000 But wolves 100 yards away, they're going to get you.

01:19:28.000 They know they're going to get you.

01:19:29.000 So you've got to keep the distance way too far.

01:19:32.000 10 miles.

01:19:33.000 You want to hear...

01:19:33.000 You don't want to hear...

01:19:39.000 He's such a slob. 0.99

01:19:40.000 He said he's going to double everything I do. 1.00

01:19:42.000 Look at that fat face.

01:19:43.000 That's not even possible. 0.99

01:19:47.000 Stop this before I throw up.

01:19:52.000 He's so far behind.

01:19:54.000 It's impossible to win.

01:19:57.000 But that's the point.

01:19:58.000 The point is to keep the boot on his neck.

01:20:01.000 Yeah.

01:20:01.000 This only does seven-day challenges.

01:20:03.000 So basically, you start it, and they accept, and then it counts for the next seven days, all your cumulative points.

01:20:10.000 Well, that would be good.

01:20:11.000 Then you just do four.

01:20:12.000 And then you just keep going.

01:20:13.000 Yeah.

01:20:14.000 Do the month.

01:20:15.000 I like the challenge aspect of it.

01:20:17.000 It's really, I mean, all jokes aside, it's been really fun with my friends.

01:20:21.000 Poor Tommy Bunz is way behind.

01:20:22.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:20:24.000 Tom Segura is way behind.

01:20:27.000 He's like 1,800 points behind me right now.

01:20:29.000 He's not storing them up, is he?

01:20:30.000 Like saving them for a couple days?

01:20:32.000 He might be.

01:20:32.000 He might be sandbagged.

01:20:34.000 Drops 4,000 points on you.

01:20:35.000 He just comes full strength all day.

01:20:37.000 You store them up in this device and then you sync so you can pretend that you're not doing any work.

01:20:44.000 I could sandbag.

01:20:45.000 Yes!

01:20:45.000 No one knows.

01:20:46.000 Then the last day, you're like, you son of a bitch! 1.00

01:20:48.000 He goes online, he's 10,000 points ahead. 1.00

01:20:50.000 Oh, that would be a real issue.

01:20:52.000 So the key is to just keep the work rate at an almost impossible level.

01:20:56.000 So like yesterday, like I said, I worked out five and a half hours and then another hour.

01:21:01.000 And today I've already put in two hours.

01:21:03.000 I put in two hours at 7 o'clock this morning.

01:21:05.000 The hotel room doesn't have any.

01:21:06.000 The thing is I'm putting two hours in at yellow.

01:21:09.000 I'm hitting 80% for two hours.

01:21:11.000 Fat Bert's out there waddling around with his dog pretending he's working hard making videos.

01:21:17.000 He's got like gray and a little bit of blue.

01:21:20.000 Maybe green.

01:21:21.000 A little green.

01:21:22.000 Then he takes a break.

01:21:23.000 Cries.

01:21:27.000 And his numbers are low.

01:21:29.000 And they're not near him.

01:21:30.000 They're lower than mine.

01:21:31.000 That's a fact.

01:21:32.000 I worked out more last night and this morning than he has in a whole day.

01:21:37.000 The other thing though, my problem, when I play Frisbee, so I take the watch off when I play because it's a wrist thing and I'm constantly moving and gripping.

01:21:47.000 Do you play like that Frisbee disc golf?

01:21:49.000 Ultimate Frisbee.

01:21:50.000 Ultimate Frisbee.

01:21:50.000 Yeah.

01:21:51.000 So I take it off every time I play and I know that's thousands of points that I'm missing out on.

01:21:55.000 What is disc golf versus ultimate frisbee?

01:21:57.000 What's the difference?

01:21:58.000 Disc golf is what it sounds like.

01:22:01.000 You play 9 or 18 holes and you're throwing and walking up to it.

01:22:05.000 Is it a frisbee though?

01:22:06.000 Are you throwing a frisbee?

01:22:08.000 Oh, look at you there, dude.

01:22:09.000 Get an air, son.

01:22:10.000 So ultimate frisbee is different.

01:22:12.000 Ultimate frisbee you can think of as kind of like...

01:22:15.000 Football slash basketball with a disc.

01:22:17.000 Are you throwing that frisbee with the left and the right hand?

01:22:21.000 Yes, mostly one hand.

01:22:23.000 Sometimes you throw a little offhand. 0.98

01:22:24.000 Why don't you switch the sucker to the left hand? 0.96

01:22:27.000 I don't know.

01:22:28.000 There's something about wearing something on my wrist, like throwing and catching. 0.99

01:22:31.000 Damn. 0.99

01:22:32.000 You're so serious about it, you're willing to lose points. 1.00

01:22:35.000 Yeah.

01:22:36.000 If I really had to wear it for a week to get...

01:22:38.000 Oh, dude, you're really playing competitive here.

01:22:41.000 Yeah, so this is all...

01:22:42.000 I'm pretty sure this is all pro highlights, but...

01:22:45.000 You guys are pro?

01:22:46.000 There's professional Ultimate Frisbee now.

01:22:48.000 And you're playing professionally?

01:22:50.000 And I'm playing professional Ultimate Frisbee.

01:22:52.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:22:54.000 This actually looks really fun.

01:22:56.000 Yeah.

01:22:56.000 Wow!

01:22:57.000 There's a lot of...

01:22:59.000 Is that you?

01:23:00.000 2016 Eastern Conference Defensive Player of the Year?

01:23:03.000 That was me. 1.00

01:23:03.000 Damn! 1.00

01:23:05.000 Baby Marquez getting some defensive plays. 1.00

01:23:06.000 Well, you have big hands.

01:23:07.000 That probably helps in this sport, right?

01:23:09.000 Definitely.

01:23:10.000 This is a fun play.

01:23:11.000 Look at this.

01:23:12.000 I won't...

01:23:14.000 Oh, snatch!

01:23:16.000 So that guy that I just roofed scored like 15 points against us that game.

01:23:20.000 That's called Roofed?

01:23:20.000 Yeah, just Roofed.

01:23:23.000 Roofed?

01:23:23.000 Is that an ultimate Frisbee only term?

01:23:26.000 There's all kinds of...

01:23:26.000 I've never heard that term before.

01:23:29.000 A common one is you skied someone.

01:23:31.000 But Roofed I like because it's a disc and it's above his head.

01:23:34.000 Yeah, whenever you moss somebody.

01:23:36.000 What is that?

01:23:37.000 When you moss someone.

01:23:38.000 Moss?

01:23:38.000 Like Randy Moss.

01:23:39.000 Oh.

01:23:40.000 Like Randy Moss went up for a football and his chest was at your like...

01:23:43.000 At your head level.

01:23:44.000 Right.

01:23:45.000 That's what mossing someone looks like.

01:23:48.000 But there's other words for it.

01:23:49.000 So you might roof someone.

01:23:50.000 I can't believe you're doing this without your sensor on.

01:23:53.000 I know.

01:23:53.000 Because you're so serious about it.

01:23:55.000 So many points.

01:23:56.000 Yeah, you're losing so many points.

01:23:58.000 Wow.

01:23:59.000 Do you do any strength and conditioning to prepare for this?

01:24:02.000 Yeah, so the season is a couple months long.

01:24:06.000 So, yes, we're in the off season now.

01:24:09.000 The season just ended.

01:24:10.000 So we're just basically rebuilding.

01:24:12.000 I lose, like, 15 pounds during the season.

01:24:14.000 So I'm, like, putting that back on.

01:24:16.000 Then you get to, like, try out season and, like...

01:24:19.000 February or March.

01:24:21.000 And then you just start getting your throws back, getting your cardio back, and starting to work into it.

01:24:26.000 And then the season starts.

01:24:27.000 I would think that leg strength and explosive power, like doing box jumps and things along those lines, would be huge for you.

01:24:34.000 Yes.

01:24:35.000 So there's different...

01:24:37.000 Sort of like basketball or football, there's different types of players.

01:24:42.000 You can sort of...

01:24:44.000 There's so many things to explain with frisbee.

01:24:47.000 There's throwers and catchers, you might call them.

01:24:49.000 So, handlers and receivers.

01:24:51.000 A lot of shorter, faster people who aren't as explosive but are really, really quick are handlers.

01:24:57.000 And they'll go around, they'll squirrel around, and they'll have awesome strength, and they'll be able to throw anywhere.

01:25:03.000 But they won't necessarily go downfield and try to go score on someone We're good to go.

01:25:28.000 So if you watch a game unfold, it's very fluid.

01:25:31.000 You constantly switch between offense and defense, like basketball.

01:25:34.000 You're scoring in an end zone and then the point's over and then you pull again to start.

01:25:38.000 But as the point's going on, you kind of notice certain players are mostly doing certain things, like mostly throwing, mostly getting the disc back.

01:25:47.000 Other people are mostly going downfield, threatening deep.

01:25:51.000 There's a lot of terminology.

01:25:52.000 How'd you get involved in this?

01:25:54.000 The high school I went to, Columbia High School, invented this sport in 1968. Whoa!

01:25:59.000 I had a very competitive team for the years that I was there and I made a lot of friends on the team, started playing.

01:26:03.000 I played for the JV team for the first two years and then I played for the varsity team my second two years.

01:26:09.000 So it was a pretty serious program.

01:26:11.000 And we played against other high schools around the country.

01:26:13.000 We traveled.

01:26:14.000 We flew.

01:26:15.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:26:15.000 We played against... 0.71

01:26:16.000 We had rivals in Massachusetts and Connecticut and all these other schools.

01:26:21.000 And then we had the big Eastern Championship at the end of the high school season.

01:26:25.000 That's what we all played for.

01:26:28.000 We won 11 straight state championships the two years that I played.

01:26:32.000 That's incredible.

01:26:33.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 I did not know that this was even a thing.

01:26:36.000 Meanwhile, there's a rich history to it.

01:26:38.000 Yeah.

01:26:39.000 68!

01:26:39.000 Yeah, 50th anniversary this year.

01:26:41.000 That is so crazy.

01:26:42.000 I would have never guessed.

01:26:43.000 You said when was Ultimate Frisbee invented?

01:26:45.000 I always said like a couple months ago.

01:26:47.000 Yeah, well, so the Pro League just is less than 10 years old.

01:26:51.000 So there's always been this sort of club.

01:26:53.000 You think of club soccer, like area teams.

01:26:55.000 There's always been that.

01:26:56.000 So I've played for the New Jersey Garden State club team for much longer than I've played for any pro teams.

01:27:01.000 And that's generally what players take the most seriously.

01:27:04.000 The club championships were this past weekend.

01:27:07.000 The New York area team beat the San Francisco area team to win nationals.

01:27:12.000 Like, that's generally what people care the most about.

01:27:15.000 But it's not very spectator-friendly.

01:27:17.000 So what we've sort of created is the AUDL, the American Ultimate Disc League.

01:27:24.000 It's a pro version of Frisbee.

01:27:27.000 It's mainly the same sport, but a little bigger field.

01:27:30.000 And a little bit faster play just because they've shortened the stoppages and they have referees and everything now.

01:27:37.000 And they're selling tickets and selling merch and jerseys and broadcasting games.

01:27:42.000 And they have a pro championship at the end of the year.

01:27:45.000 So that's been a whole new thing for Frisbee players to pay attention to.

01:27:50.000 And I've played for a pro team as well the past couple of years and it's been pretty fun.

01:27:54.000 Wow.

01:27:55.000 Well, I buy it because just watching that clip was really exciting.

01:27:58.000 It looks fun.

01:27:59.000 And you guys aren't getting any brain damage.

01:28:01.000 Yeah, that's a big deal.

01:28:03.000 It's about the same level of contact as basketball, I would say.

01:28:06.000 Perfect.

01:28:06.000 So you're not throwing elbows or anything, but there are fouls.

01:28:09.000 So you've got to be careful about where you're throwing your body around, but you're not. 0.96

01:28:12.000 Well, that's going to happen because people are running at each other, but you're not worried about tackles or anything stupid.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, it's not football or lacrosse. 0.75

01:28:18.000 I tried lacrosse.

01:28:19.000 That was not for me. 0.97

01:28:21.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

01:28:21.000 People hitting each other with sticks and fuck all that. 1.00

01:28:24.000 It was a lot. 0.94

01:28:25.000 Do you mess around with VR at all?

01:28:28.000 Yes, a little bit.

01:28:29.000 I have an HTC Vive, and that's been the most common use of VR. We have a Vive in the studio, and the two games that come to mind the most are called Superhot.

01:28:39.000 I don't know if you've played that.

01:28:40.000 No.

01:28:41.000 And Beat Saber.

01:28:43.000 I try to play, but my kids dominate the VR thing.

01:28:48.000 They come in here and like, get out of here!

01:28:50.000 They push me away, and it's mine!

01:28:52.000 There's a lot of fun stuff.

01:28:54.000 So Superhot is a fun one.

01:28:56.000 It's a shooting game, strategy game type of thing.

01:29:00.000 So the way Superhot, again, you're in VR, so you're wearing this thing, and it's a bunch of stick figures trying to kill you.

01:29:07.000 And they're running downstairs, running around corners, shooting at you, trying to kill you.

01:29:12.000 But time only moves when you move.

01:29:15.000 So if you hold still, you can look around and see in the headset where people are and sort of evaluate.

01:29:20.000 Like, okay, I can pick up this object and hurt somebody with it.

01:29:24.000 This is it right here?

01:29:25.000 Yeah, this is the game.

01:29:25.000 It's a very crude looking video.

01:29:27.000 Yeah, it's super basic.

01:29:29.000 Again, stick figures trying to kill you.

01:29:31.000 But it's like a strategy game in that you sort of have to evaluate where you're at.

01:29:41.000 Huh.

01:30:00.000 There's a boxing game.

01:30:01.000 Well, there's several boxing games.

01:30:03.000 In VR? Yeah.

01:30:04.000 That are really good.

01:30:06.000 Wow.

01:30:06.000 And they give you a workout because there's a guy in front of you and he's throwing punches and you're bobbing and weaving.

01:30:12.000 Is it like full speed?

01:30:13.000 You're punching at him.

01:30:14.000 Yeah.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, and they look good.

01:30:17.000 It looks like you're in the ring, and the guy's looking at you, he's mean mugging you, and throws punches your way, and when you get hit, you see a flash of white.

01:30:26.000 That's so good.

01:30:26.000 I want to try that now.

01:30:28.000 Well, it's really fun, but I think with the haptic feedback suit, especially if you could put something, there it is right here.

01:30:34.000 This is the new one.

01:30:35.000 Oh, this is the Creed video game I was telling you about.

01:30:37.000 Oh, see?

01:30:37.000 Based off of the new Rocky movie.

01:30:39.000 Oh, you can block, yeah.

01:30:41.000 Follow up.

01:30:42.000 Damaging.

01:30:44.000 Look at this.

01:30:48.000 But when you're doing it, like we did it out here in the hallway, my feet were hurting.

01:30:54.000 Because I was moving and shifting left and right and throwing punches and bouncing off my toes. 0.98

01:30:59.000 And after it was over, I was like, dude, my fucking feet are exhausted. 0.98

01:31:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:31:03.000 And you're doing the drills and everything? 0.99

01:31:04.000 Yeah.

01:31:05.000 More so than it would be if I was actually sparring.

01:31:09.000 Huh.

01:31:09.000 Because if I was actually sparring, I don't think I would throw as many punches in such a quick succession.

01:31:15.000 Yeah.

01:31:15.000 You'd be more worried about getting hit back and actually getting punched.

01:31:20.000 But when you're doing it, it's really interesting.

01:31:22.000 Wow.

01:31:23.000 Yeah.

01:31:24.000 I've got to try that.

01:31:26.000 Is that Adrian?

01:31:28.000 There's also the...

01:31:30.000 Is this in the HTC Vive, too?

01:31:32.000 Yeah.

01:31:32.000 Yeah, this just came out for all of them.

01:31:34.000 Oh, okay.

01:31:34.000 Yeah, the other one...

01:31:36.000 The other one's called Beat Saber, and it's a...

01:31:39.000 You can think of it as, like, Guitar Hero, but you're holding, like, lightsabers as controllers.

01:31:43.000 Oh, yeah, my kids love that.

01:31:44.000 And they're going past you.

01:31:44.000 I love that game.

01:31:45.000 And things are flying out, and you're hitting them.

01:31:46.000 And you're hitting them?

01:31:47.000 Yeah.

01:31:47.000 That is a really well-done...

01:31:49.000 Yeah.

01:31:50.000 There's a bunch of really well done ones.

01:31:52.000 There's a great one that you're in a castle and you have like an old school bow and arrow and then there's these almost like South Park looking monsters that are coming towards your way.

01:32:02.000 Yeah.

01:32:02.000 And they're like, it's still kind of cartoony, but like the graphics are crisp enough that you like feel like you're a cartoon character in a way.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 It's pretty good.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, it's really cool.

01:32:13.000 There's actual physics to the arrow.

01:32:15.000 When you shoot it, you have to lift your arm up to get the arc of the arrow correct to hit at things.

01:32:21.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:32:23.000 I think about VR a lot just because as a video maker, you're making content for the platform that people view it on.

01:32:31.000 And we started to get this little creeping up of 360 videos getting really good and interesting applications of 360 video.

01:32:40.000 And it's still kind of early and I don't really know if it's going to take off or if it's just this medium stepping stone format to what might be a more immersive version.

01:32:50.000 Or maybe just AR is going to be way better.

01:32:52.000 I don't know yet, but I pay a lot of attention to it just because it's new.

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:32:59.000 AR is fascinating as well.

01:33:00.000 I mean, we discussed, what was it?

01:33:03.000 Magic Leap?

01:33:04.000 Is that what it was?

01:33:05.000 The Microsoft one?

01:33:06.000 That's the other one.

01:33:07.000 HoloLens is Microsoft and then Magic Leap is its own thing.

01:33:10.000 I haven't tried either actually yet.

01:33:12.000 And which one was the one where the ballerina was dancing in your hand?

01:33:15.000 Magic Leap.

01:33:16.000 But which one, is that the one that people are saying is kind of vaporware?

01:33:22.000 Sort of.

01:33:23.000 Sort of.

01:33:24.000 I would imagine that...

01:33:25.000 That screen on that phone would have some sort of similar technology.

01:33:30.000 It's like light field technology.

01:33:31.000 Yeah, I didn't even talk about that.

01:33:33.000 They're doing weird stuff with your eyes.

01:33:34.000 This weird...

01:33:35.000 So this phone has a...

01:33:37.000 What are they calling it?

01:33:42.000 I'm not going to remember what they're calling it.

01:33:43.000 Oh, is there...

01:33:44.000 I need Wi-Fi for it, actually.

01:33:47.000 It's got a 3D screen, a glasses-less 3D. Here's the...

01:33:53.000 And you basically, it has a 3D screen and you look at media on it and it's supposed to sort of pop out...

01:34:00.000 That's the password.

01:34:02.000 At the top?

01:34:03.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 Doesn't have to be lowercase.

01:34:06.000 Is it lowercase?

01:34:06.000 No.

01:34:07.000 Which one is it?

01:34:08.000 This one, yeah.

01:34:11.000 T... That one?

01:34:12.000 Yeah.

01:34:13.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:34:14.000 But basically, it can look like that, but you can't have things actually popping out above the screen.

01:34:22.000 So things on the screen will look 3D, but anything outside of the screen won't.

01:34:26.000 It's kind of hard to explain.

01:34:27.000 Wow.

01:34:29.000 And so this is for video games or for other things as well?

01:34:32.000 So at this point, what they're trying to do is have media, like photos and videos.

01:34:39.000 Pop out.

01:34:40.000 Like pop out.

01:34:40.000 So not just games.

01:34:41.000 They're going to have games as well.

01:34:43.000 But they have shared with me a couple of media files that...

01:34:48.000 Are like a good use of the 3D and I'm curious what you think of them because they're definitely like a stretch.

01:34:56.000 So it's hologram-y.

01:34:59.000 Holographic is the word they use but it's hard to explain and it's kind of trippy.

01:35:05.000 Whoa.

01:35:08.000 Dude, this is weird.

01:35:10.000 And there's different...

01:35:12.000 So there's a movie trailer version of it where there's things coming towards you, and I think that's maybe the best use of it I've seen.

01:35:19.000 It's impossible to show on camera.

01:35:21.000 I've tried many different times, many different ways.

01:35:23.000 No, this will never show up on camera.

01:35:24.000 But this is odd.

01:35:26.000 Yeah.

01:35:28.000 Is there an issue where people have to make stuff for this?

01:35:32.000 So any content, you have to shoot for 4View.

01:35:36.000 They call it 4View.

01:35:37.000 Or they can take existing content and convert it to 4View, but that's a little less successful usually.

01:35:45.000 Yeah.

01:35:47.000 This is really strange.

01:35:48.000 But the cameras on the back, they have two cameras on the back, and you can shoot four of you with the cameras on the hydrogen.

01:35:54.000 It's crazy.

01:35:55.000 What I'm looking at right now is topographic maps.

01:36:00.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 Wow.

01:36:03.000 Amazing, man.

01:36:04.000 So it's hard to tell, again, I try to separate things into buckets of this is something you're going to use every day and love, or this is a total gimmick that you'll never use again.

01:36:14.000 And I started with it in the bucket of this is kind of like a gimmick, but they've put so much effort into making it good, and all these different conversion techniques and...

01:36:29.000 Let's see if I can find a clip.

01:36:31.000 But they've been constantly changing the algorithms and adjusting it and updating it to look better.

01:36:37.000 That it's starting to convince me that it might be worth paying attention to for more than just the first two seconds.

01:36:46.000 This is amazing.

01:36:48.000 Do you think you would use it all the time?

01:36:52.000 No, I'd never use it.

01:36:54.000 But it's still pretty cool, right?

01:36:56.000 It's very cool, but...

01:37:00.000 How much better is it than regular video?

01:37:02.000 That and how long can you look at it before your eyes start to tweak a little bit?

01:37:07.000 Yeah, I'm already going like...

01:37:09.000 But it looks good.

01:37:10.000 It definitely looks really good.

01:37:12.000 It looks cool.

01:37:12.000 It's kind of interesting.

01:37:13.000 Yeah.

01:37:14.000 But...

01:37:14.000 So you can take photos and videos with the camera on the phone that are in this 3D. And that's maybe the best use of it because you can see what's actually in the room around you the way it would show up in a direct translation.

01:37:28.000 Yeah.

01:37:29.000 Now, how much of an impact does it have on storage size?

01:37:33.000 Not much.

01:37:34.000 I mean, there's still video files in there, like, big 4K videos, but they're not necessarily twice as big or anything like that.

01:37:41.000 It looks cool, but regular video looks pretty cool, too.

01:37:45.000 When you go into the viewfinder and you go from 2D to 3D, then you can take photos and videos of things in that format.

01:37:54.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:37:55.000 This is weird, man.

01:37:57.000 If you take a capture and then look at it, and you kind of move the phone around a little bit, it's kind of shimmery in a weird way, but kind of 3D, sort of.

01:38:08.000 This is very odd.

01:38:09.000 It's very hard to explain.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, you'd have to look at this through this thing.

01:38:13.000 Like, you would never be able to show this to someone in a video.

01:38:16.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:38:17.000 Like, I'm looking at these PlastiCell little figurines, and as I move forward and backward, you really get a sense of 3D. Yeah.

01:38:26.000 That's actually pretty badass.

01:38:28.000 So I gotta figure out how to show it in the video of, like...

01:38:31.000 You can't.

01:38:31.000 I just have to describe it.

01:38:33.000 I have to use my words.

01:38:34.000 God, that's amazing.

01:38:36.000 Yeah.

01:38:37.000 And that's...

01:38:37.000 Well, it's probably coming.

01:38:38.000 That's probably coming.

01:38:39.000 It's probably going to be something we're all going to have to deal with.

01:38:41.000 Yeah.

01:38:42.000 I'm interested.

01:38:44.000 If you ask Red, they'll tell you, yeah, this is the future.

01:38:46.000 Everything's going to be like this.

01:38:47.000 I'm like, you got it.

01:38:48.000 I think you have to say that at this point.

01:38:50.000 Remember when 3D movies were a big deal?

01:38:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:52.000 Get those stupid glasses and... 1.00

01:38:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:54.000 I mean, so their claim is like, yes, this is...

01:38:56.000 It's genuinely good.

01:38:58.000 Like, you can use it in portrait and landscape.

01:39:00.000 Glassesless 3D is usually only one way or the other because of polarization.

01:39:04.000 So this is a lenticular...

01:39:06.000 The technology, I don't know exactly how it works, but you can use it in portrait or landscape.

01:39:11.000 You can play games with it, and things will react in depth of space in the game.

01:39:17.000 Well, the first video that you showed me is really interesting, too, because it's essentially like a topographic map.

01:39:22.000 So you're paying attention to depth.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, you're looking at the layers of the mountain and the hillside.

01:39:29.000 But this actually was kind of weirder, like seeing these little figurines and moving towards them.

01:39:35.000 In real life.

01:39:36.000 Yeah, that's what I think...

01:39:39.000 That's the best way to calibrate to your eye what it's doing.

01:39:42.000 If you just look at a video of it, you're like, alright, it looks 3D, like it's coming at me.

01:39:46.000 And they had a couple, like a movie trailer type of thing, where again, it was mostly shot for this format, and things would kind of go past you, and the speakers are also really good, so they have this sort of a 3D conversion technique for audio as well,

01:40:02.000 where it sort of goes behind you.

01:40:05.000 But yeah, it's definitely interesting.

01:40:08.000 Yeah, did you mess around with Google Glasses when they first came out?

01:40:12.000 I did, yeah.

01:40:13.000 Did you think, okay, this is going to be something?

01:40:17.000 I guess I probably did.

01:40:22.000 Glass was weird.

01:40:23.000 It was ahead of its time, but also not really.

01:40:25.000 I was in college also, so I was like, I can't wear it to class or walk around.

01:40:31.000 I guess I could walk around Hoboken with it, but the whole idea of an augmented reality...

01:40:36.000 This little screen that I could just check the weather and then look back down or check my text and look back down.

01:40:41.000 It was like, well, that could be cool.

01:40:43.000 But also, if you look at someone wearing Google Glass, it's like, that guy's wearing Google Glass.

01:40:47.000 You can't get around it.

01:40:49.000 Well, people would get angry at people for wearing it, too.

01:40:51.000 Because it had a camera in it.

01:40:51.000 Filming me, what are you doing?

01:40:53.000 Yeah.

01:40:53.000 So that was another thing as I tried, I won't even say the name, but like another, like much newer version of that, where again, it was like a small projection to a prism that you could see but no one else could, and it would fit into something that looked more like regular glasses.

01:41:09.000 So it had a battery, it had everything, but it didn't have a camera, and you still had a screen that you could look up into the corner to.

01:41:15.000 And I was like, well, I wonder if I'll notice the difference between regular glasses.

01:41:18.000 And I went down and I met the guys who were showing it to me in the lobby, and immediately I was like, that guy's wearing it.

01:41:23.000 I can see it.

01:41:24.000 I can see the little light in his eye.

01:41:26.000 I can see the extra thick glasses.

01:41:28.000 So it was like, it's an interesting concept, and I don't know...

01:41:35.000 Where it goes from here, if it has to be glasses-based, or if we'll eventually have some sort of a chip in our eye, or what the deal is, what the next move is, but it's a cool concept.

01:41:46.000 Yeah, it's one of those things that sort of, it's kind of been flirting with, like, for the longest time, people thought virtual reality was going to be I mean, there was virtual reality concepts 20 years ago.

01:41:59.000 Yeah.

01:42:00.000 And people thought virtual reality was going to be the future.

01:42:02.000 And then it took a long time for the hardware to catch up.

01:42:06.000 I think augmented reality has a more promising immediate future just because it's more useful.

01:42:11.000 Yeah.

01:42:12.000 But virtual reality has the immersion factor going for it.

01:42:16.000 The problem is you have to make a whole world.

01:42:20.000 So augmented reality is just some layer on top of your current world.

01:42:24.000 So you get a little screen or whatever, or you look at one particular thing and it looks different from real life.

01:42:31.000 That's easier to build.

01:42:32.000 For virtual reality, you have to build the whole world that you step into.

01:42:37.000 And that's like a much, much deeper layer of immersion, which is great to step into, but also hard to make.

01:42:45.000 So that's the difference.

01:42:47.000 I think I'm more into AR at the moment.

01:42:49.000 Well, I think AR in the sense of having all the functions of your phone in front of you in the air when you call upon them.

01:42:57.000 Yeah, kind of like a movie.

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 Like when someone in a movie, or like Iron Man even, they just whip out a sheet of buttons in front of them and close it.

01:43:05.000 Only they could see that.

01:43:06.000 Yeah.

01:43:07.000 Maybe that's the future.

01:43:08.000 And to have some Hey Siri type, you know, demand.

01:43:12.000 Yeah, Siri's terrible.

01:43:14.000 Siri's not that good.

01:43:15.000 It works for some things.

01:43:16.000 It's okay for some things.

01:43:18.000 Siri... 0.96

01:43:18.000 Google Assistant's better though. 0.96

01:43:20.000 Yes.

01:43:21.000 Yeah.

01:43:21.000 Uh...

01:43:22.000 Yeah, Siri.

01:43:24.000 Well, have you tried Bixby?

01:43:26.000 Yes.

01:43:26.000 Bixby's even worse.

01:43:27.000 Bixby sucks. 1.00

01:43:28.000 Bixby's pretty bad. 1.00

01:43:29.000 Yeah.

01:43:30.000 But Bixby does a few things okay.

01:43:31.000 Like, it checks flights okay.

01:43:34.000 Bixby, I think, is hilarious because it shows how good it can be and then it isn't good.

01:43:39.000 Like, it has a couple of things that it can definitely do better than any other assistant.

01:43:44.000 Like what?

01:43:45.000 It can dig in locally on Samsung phones and do strings of commands.

01:43:49.000 You can say, hey, Bixby, open my settings app, turn my brightness halfway down, and turn my Wi-Fi off, and it'll do all of that.

01:43:57.000 And Siri and Google Assistant won't do that.

01:43:59.000 But if you say, hey, Bixby, how tall is the Statue of Liberty?

01:44:03.000 It might not do it.

01:44:05.000 It's really bad at a lot of basic things.

01:44:08.000 So, yeah, Google Assistant I think is the most complete and useful.

01:44:11.000 I genuinely use it all the time.

01:44:13.000 Siri I mostly trigger by accident and then I wonder if it's better and it isn't.

01:44:18.000 Well, it's offensive that Bixby has a button.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, I hate that.

01:44:21.000 Come on, why?

01:44:22.000 And you can't remap it.

01:44:23.000 An unremappable Bixby button that you accidentally press all the time.

01:44:28.000 All the time.

01:44:28.000 Yeah.

01:44:29.000 Lower left-hand corner, like what is this thing?

01:44:31.000 Yeah, it's pretty bad.

01:44:32.000 Yeah, the iPhone Siri button gets pressed a lot, but what I really like about the Pixel is the squeeze.

01:44:38.000 Yeah, you can turn it off.

01:44:39.000 Do you use it?

01:44:40.000 Like to squeeze it to pull up the assistant?

01:44:42.000 Yeah, once in a while.

01:44:43.000 I mostly use the Hey Google trigger, which is like mapped to my voice, so you see it turns on now that I've said it.

01:44:48.000 Oh, wow.

01:44:49.000 But I started using the squeeze a little more so I don't have to yell, and I can just squeeze it and say a command or a question.

01:44:55.000 Mostly a question.

01:44:56.000 Now, do you use any of the home feature things?

01:44:59.000 Like, do you use Alexa or the Google Home?

01:45:04.000 First thing I got into my home was Google Home.

01:45:06.000 So now I have a Google Home home.

01:45:08.000 If I had Alexa, first thing, I probably would have had an Alexa home with things that work with Alexa. 0.99

01:45:12.000 But they genuinely, like, usually work with each other.

01:45:15.000 Do your lights work with it?

01:45:16.000 So what I have is, I have a Nest thermostat, and I have a Nest security camera, and...

01:45:24.000 I think that's it.

01:45:25.000 And I had smart lights, but I stopped using them.

01:45:27.000 So it's mostly just the Nest stuff.

01:45:29.000 And I can ask what the temperature is upstairs and then say, hey, change the temperature to this, and it'll do it.

01:45:36.000 So I don't have to run out and find the thermostat and change it myself.

01:45:39.000 I remember hearing that Bill Gates had some pin that you would put on when you entered into his home.

01:45:46.000 And when you go into certain rooms, if you had a pin on, it would recognize, oh, it's Bill.

01:45:52.000 Bill likes the temperature at this level.

01:45:54.000 He likes this art on the wall.

01:45:56.000 So he'd have LCD screens that would display different images.

01:46:00.000 That's almost too much modularity.

01:46:03.000 I like a general state of things are the same unless I want them to change.

01:46:09.000 That would be kind of weird.

01:46:10.000 Every time you leave the room, the art changes behind you.

01:46:12.000 I mean, you walk back in and it changes back and you leave again.

01:46:15.000 It's kind of a lot.

01:46:17.000 But yeah, just a couple things.

01:46:19.000 I have a Google Home app where I'll change the temperature once in a while or...

01:46:26.000 There's this thing I've considered getting, the Ring doorbell, which has a camera, but I don't really use the doorbell that much.

01:46:32.000 It's mostly packages that get delivered to work instead of home.

01:46:34.000 Right.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, that's about it.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, the Alexa and the Google Home, the big concern that people have is that it's listening to you all the time.

01:46:43.000 There was a story that I read about, there was a murder investigation, and that they were trying to get the records of Amazon Alexa.

01:46:52.000 While, you know, this murder investigation was going on because they think they could have listened to the conversation.

01:46:58.000 And then people are like, wait a minute. 0.99

01:46:59.000 This fucking thing is just listening all the time? 1.00

01:47:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:02.000 Well, it is, but it's not.

01:47:03.000 Don't worry about it.

01:47:04.000 Don't worry about it.

01:47:06.000 It'll help you?

01:47:06.000 Yeah.

01:47:06.000 If you get murdered, you don't want anybody to get away with it, do you?

01:47:10.000 True.

01:47:11.000 Yeah.

01:47:12.000 That is a lot.

01:47:13.000 Yeah.

01:47:14.000 It's got to listen.

01:47:15.000 Like, so the whole privacy thing...

01:47:17.000 I obviously have to think about that a lot.

01:47:19.000 My compromise in my own head, personally, is I don't have privacy and I know it, so I might as well get something back for it, which is convenience.

01:47:30.000 So if I'm going to have this Google Assistant on my phone...

01:47:35.000 I already have a GPS and Wi-Fi and all these sensors in my phone.

01:47:38.000 I might as well, like, Google, of course they know where I am.

01:47:41.000 So I might as well get something for it.

01:47:42.000 So maybe I'll get, like, shortcuts to, like, where I need to go.

01:47:45.000 You know where my work is.

01:47:47.000 Just give me a shortcut to traffic to work.

01:47:49.000 That's what's weird.

01:47:50.000 You'll be home in 12 minutes. 1.00

01:47:51.000 Like, bitch, how do you know where I live? 1.00

01:47:52.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:47:53.000 How do you know when I'm home?

01:47:54.000 But if you're going to know that, which I know you are because you're Google, then give me something back for it.

01:47:59.000 And, you know, restaurants near me, like, how do you know where I am?

01:48:03.000 You're watching me all the time?

01:48:04.000 You're constantly looking?

01:48:05.000 It's basically...

01:48:06.000 So it knows, like, I have a couple of, like, preferences that seem, like, pretty minor.

01:48:10.000 Like, what sports teams do you like?

01:48:12.000 What sports do you enjoy watching?

01:48:13.000 Or, like, what sort of topics do you enjoy?

01:48:15.000 And if you open my Google Assistant, it will tell you, like, here's the score of the game you are about to check the score to.

01:48:21.000 Here's the traffic.

01:48:22.000 I have a flight later.

01:48:23.000 What it's going to do, and I know it's going to do this, is it's going to tell me when it's time to leave based on traffic, Based on my location to arrive to my flight 90 minutes before the scheduled departure.

01:48:34.000 It's going to tell me when to leave.

01:48:36.000 Because it knows where I am, it knows where the airport I'm leaving from is, it knows my flight, it knows my flight time, and it knows I need to get to the airport 90 minutes before the flight.

01:48:44.000 Does Google own Waze now?

01:48:47.000 They either own Waze or bought.

01:48:49.000 I think they bought Waze.

01:48:51.000 So when you get something through Google Maps, it does kind of the same thing that Waze does, right?

01:48:57.000 Yeah.

01:48:57.000 Yeah, they use data from Waze.

01:48:58.000 Which people who live in these neighborhoods where Waze is now rerouting people through.

01:49:03.000 I heard about that.

01:49:04.000 I heard about that.

01:49:05.000 And I'm a Waze person, so I know I'm very familiar with the rerouting, and it's pretty hilarious.

01:49:10.000 It's hilarious.

01:49:11.000 People have these sleepy little communities, and now it's like streams of cars going through their neighborhood.

01:49:17.000 Waze is great, though.

01:49:18.000 Yeah, it is great.

01:49:19.000 It is great.

01:49:20.000 I mean, it's amazing how well it predicts your time arrival, too.

01:49:24.000 And the whole like notifying you when there's construction or police or something.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, no, it's excellent.

01:49:30.000 Cars broken down the right lane, you know shift to the left.

01:49:33.000 Yeah, you're gonna get around it.

01:49:35.000 Yep.

01:49:36.000 I'm fascinated by all these advances and where they're taking us and I spend a lot of time thinking about it.

01:49:44.000 I spend a lot of time thinking about what where the future holds or what the future holds and where all this stuff is going and I never would have imagined 20 years ago that we would be all addicted to our phones,

01:49:59.000 and one of the big issues would be one of the new features in the iPhone shows you how much screen time you have.

01:50:06.000 Because when we're doing this fitness challenge, your screen is on all the time because you're looking at your screen because it shows you the score.

01:50:14.000 So it's like, your screen usage this month is up 900%.

01:50:18.000 Like, oh no!

01:50:20.000 That's not good.

01:50:22.000 I'm not counting this month, obviously, because of that, but there's something to addiction to phones and addiction to technology and the fact that it's so a part of our life that I can only imagine it's going to get more and more immersive and we're going to become more and more symbiotic with all this electronics.

01:50:39.000 I mean, you're wearing a watch that's telling you things all the time.

01:50:42.000 You have three phones with you.

01:50:44.000 Yeah.

01:50:45.000 On one hand, I know that it's gotten...

01:50:48.000 At least recently, a little more in the spotlight.

01:50:50.000 Like, Google just added the same thing, a digital well-being feature, which tells you how much screen time you've had in certain apps and will let you restrict your usage of Instagram by, you know, a certain number of minutes, whatever.

01:51:04.000 It's doing the same thing.

01:51:05.000 They both introduced that within, like, six months of each other, which is kind of fascinating.

01:51:09.000 But on the other hand, I think, I think in my own head that I am not addicted yet.

01:51:16.000 Yeah.

01:51:16.000 I still unplug every weekend to play Ultimate and then I plug back in on Monday.

01:51:23.000 When you say you unplug, meaning you don't check your email, you don't check your texts?

01:51:28.000 No.

01:51:28.000 I mean, if I get texts, then I get them.

01:51:31.000 But, like, as far as...

01:51:32.000 What does that mean?

01:51:33.000 So, like, I have my stuff with me.

01:51:34.000 But, like, when we go play a tournament, that's, like, you'll have, like, five games in a day.

01:51:38.000 So we'll get up at, like, 7.30, you go to the fields, you put your bag down, you warm up, you play a game, you warm up, you play a game, you warm up, you play a game.

01:51:45.000 And you're done by, like, 4 or 5 p.m.

01:51:47.000 Wow.

01:51:47.000 All day, no phone, no phone.

01:51:49.000 That's a lot of activity.

01:51:50.000 Yes.

01:51:51.000 It's amazing you're not wearing your watch.

01:51:53.000 Yeah, I'm missing out on a lot of points, man.

01:51:56.000 I'd be whooping some people in this competition thing, but I'm clearly not.

01:52:00.000 So yeah, like all day, and then we'll have a team dinner, and then shower, sleep, wake up the next day, day two of the tournament, Saturday, Sunday.

01:52:07.000 You know what you need?

01:52:07.000 You need, instead of that wrist strap, you need like a forearm strap that's like on...

01:52:13.000 Out of the way.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, like on one of those tennis wristband things.

01:52:18.000 I know I have a couple friends that play Ultimate with that on under their jersey, but the watch is the points.

01:52:26.000 I don't know if the watch, if I put it up here, will still measure my heart rate and all that stuff the same.

01:52:31.000 The MyZone thing syncs to a compression shirt, and I know you can sync the MyZone thing to your watch.

01:52:36.000 So you can do it that way.

01:52:37.000 I don't know if you could.

01:52:38.000 I'm pretty sure you can't play a watch.

01:52:39.000 What do you mean it syncs to a compression shirt?

01:52:40.000 You have a compression shirt that has those little syncs.

01:52:43.000 Where did you get that?

01:52:44.000 Through their website.

01:52:45.000 What?

01:52:46.000 Yeah.

01:52:46.000 Huh.

01:52:47.000 I'd have to like the shirt.

01:52:48.000 I almost bought it, but I did.

01:52:49.000 And you snapped the thing into the compression shirt?

01:52:51.000 They have a bra for women and a shirt for guys. 0.88

01:52:52.000 Oh my god, I gotta get a bra. 0.51

01:52:54.000 Yeah, I'm going to get one of those.

01:52:56.000 Because mine's getting super sweaty, man.

01:52:59.000 This thing is losing a lot of its elasticity.

01:53:01.000 It's so gross, too. 0.96

01:53:02.000 It stinks. 0.90

01:53:03.000 Well, you can wash it, but yeah.

01:53:04.000 Can you wash it?

01:53:05.000 Oh, I figured it couldn't.

01:53:06.000 It's like soap and water in these lead dryers.

01:53:08.000 I thought it was electronic.

01:53:09.000 Uh-huh.

01:53:10.000 It's like in a sink.

01:53:11.000 Just the fabric part?

01:53:13.000 I just assumed that because all this stuff is like you have to bolt it into it.

01:53:18.000 But the sensors are making some sort of a contact with these buttons, which makes a contact with your plastic thing.

01:53:26.000 So don't wash this.

01:53:27.000 But the rest of it, it has to go through these pads to get to your skin. 0.76

01:53:31.000 I don't want it to be shitty.

01:53:34.000 Yeah?

01:53:34.000 Get the shirt then.

01:53:35.000 Okay.

01:53:36.000 I'm gonna get the shirt.

01:53:37.000 It's almost over, but yeah.

01:53:39.000 It's not almost over.

01:53:40.000 Not quite yet, man.

01:53:41.000 It's not too late.

01:53:41.000 Overnight that.

01:53:42.000 Four days.

01:53:43.000 Four days.

01:53:44.000 Yeah.

01:53:46.000 Augmented reality. 0.97

01:53:48.000 I know that there's talk about a contact lens that was being in development that was going to be some sort of a lens that's going to allow you to do a lot of minority report type shit. 0.96

01:54:03.000 I think tech is... 0.88

01:54:05.000 Tech as I know it is too far from that to make that work.

01:54:09.000 Just because you need, like a contact lens you think of as just like this clear thing, maybe some circuits on it or whatever, but like you need a battery, right?

01:54:18.000 Unless it operates off your body.

01:54:20.000 I guess.

01:54:21.000 There's a smart watch that operates off the heat of your body.

01:54:25.000 Huh.

01:54:26.000 I mean, I don't know how direct...

01:54:27.000 Like, even if you do operate off of some other power source, you need to get that power source to connect to the electronics to make it work, which still takes some space.

01:54:37.000 I don't know how much.

01:54:38.000 So yeah, I don't know.

01:54:39.000 It seems kind of far out.

01:54:41.000 It's a cool idea.

01:54:44.000 But it also seems really, really difficult to put a contact lens directly in front of your retina and be able to focus on it.

01:54:51.000 There's a bunch of questions I have about it.

01:54:52.000 I don't know how reasonable or realistic it is.

01:54:55.000 My real fear is that they're gonna invent a better eye For blind people. 0.99

01:55:02.000 And when they do, they're like, look how amazing this is.

01:55:06.000 We've given blind people the ability to see again. 0.99

01:55:08.000 Optical zoom.

01:55:09.000 But now they also have all these other features that you don't have with your regular eyes. 0.99

01:55:12.000 Let us scoop those bad boys out and put some fucking killer robot eyes. 1.00

01:55:17.000 Binocular eyes. 1.00

01:55:18.000 I'm a little worried about that.

01:55:20.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 Realistically worried about that.

01:55:22.000 It came from...

01:55:23.000 We were watching this video once where there was a guy who got his arm and his leg bit off by sharks.

01:55:28.000 He got attacked by a shark when he's surfing.

01:55:31.000 So he had this carbon fiber hand that totally articulates like a real hand.

01:55:35.000 And he's standing there with his...

01:55:37.000 From his knee down was an artificial leg.

01:55:40.000 And he was walking around and moving like a regular person.

01:55:43.000 I was like, look at this guy.

01:55:44.000 This is incredible.

01:55:45.000 I'm like, he's kind of a bionic guy.

01:55:47.000 Because his hand was moving around.

01:55:48.000 He could shake your hand.

01:55:50.000 And he seemed so normal.

01:55:51.000 And I'm like...

01:55:52.000 What if it gets, like, many, many generations better than this, where it has, like, Luke Skywalker, when he got his hand chopped off by Darth Vader?

01:56:00.000 Remember, he got that robot hand, and he opens up.

01:56:03.000 There's people working on this every day, so I kind of figure we're headed in that direction, where, like...

01:56:09.000 What's this, Jamie?

01:56:09.000 I just Googled something.

01:56:11.000 It's not out yet.

01:56:13.000 This is called Immacula, which is an AR lens that you wear with sunglasses.

01:56:19.000 So, in...

01:56:21.000 Together, they make an AR situation.

01:56:24.000 Oh, with the glasses.

01:56:25.000 So you have a lens as a contact and then sunglasses?

01:56:28.000 Yeah, show you the picture that they...

01:56:30.000 This is what they say they got.

01:56:33.000 What is immaculate?

01:56:36.000 So you have a lens here, and these glasses go over top.

01:56:39.000 Look at that creepy dude.

01:56:41.000 Wow, what a picture.

01:56:42.000 It's not out yet.

01:56:43.000 It's just you can invest in it.

01:56:45.000 It's like how Magic Leap was about a year, year and a half ago.

01:56:48.000 I'm not invested in anything that uses this guy as their cover boy.

01:56:51.000 What's up with his face, man? 1.00

01:56:52.000 It's a fucking robot, man. 1.00

01:56:53.000 He's an alien. 1.00

01:56:54.000 He looks like the guy from Men in Black.

01:56:56.000 Remember when the alien put the skin on?

01:57:01.000 Remember?

01:57:01.000 That's what he looks like.

01:57:02.000 Something wrong with the left side of his face, man.

01:57:05.000 He's wearing someone's skin.

01:57:07.000 That's a weird system.

01:57:09.000 So a lens in a contact.

01:57:11.000 Yeah, so the battery might be in the glasses.

01:57:13.000 In the glasses.

01:57:14.000 And it's working, and I don't know how it's connected, but...

01:57:17.000 Hmm.

01:57:17.000 Wow.

01:57:20.000 Who knows what this is?

01:57:21.000 It's also very, very new.

01:57:22.000 Here's the other thing.

01:57:23.000 I don't need the information that fast, that bad.

01:57:26.000 I'm okay with the one second delay of picking up my phone and checking it.

01:57:31.000 You saw the examples where incoming call, the weather, your emails, things like that.

01:57:39.000 Information you can already get in two seconds by just Yep, I have an incoming call.

01:57:43.000 I have an email.

01:57:44.000 I have a text.

01:57:45.000 Like that's pretty quick.

01:57:47.000 Pretty quick.

01:57:47.000 And I've said this before where someone is asking me like, are we at like the final form of smartphones?

01:57:54.000 Like where are they going to go?

01:57:54.000 Are they going to get bigger?

01:57:55.000 Are they going to get smaller?

01:57:56.000 Are they going to be implanted in you?

01:57:58.000 I think smartphones are at pretty much their final form.

01:58:03.000 We're going to keep evolving the insides of smartphones to be better.

01:58:07.000 They're going to get faster.

01:58:08.000 They're going to get more and more transparent, whatever.

01:58:11.000 They'll get more interesting looking.

01:58:13.000 But I think it's always going to be a thing I pick up and use and then put back down.

01:58:19.000 I think that's where we're at for a while.

01:58:22.000 What are your thoughts on Samsung's foldable screens?

01:58:25.000 That I am very curious about because, again, sounds awesome, but why do I fold it?

01:58:35.000 Why?

01:58:35.000 Yeah, what am I doing with it?

01:58:36.000 And how big is it going to get?

01:58:37.000 Yeah, so we had this idea a while ago when we started first getting these big phones.

01:58:43.000 We're like, oh, you could have a really big phone, like a tablet, but then you fold it in half and it's like a phone size now.

01:58:51.000 But, like, I might as well just have a phone and a tablet, unless I... I don't know if I need both.

01:58:55.000 Do you remember the Samsung...

01:58:57.000 What was that giant thing that they had that was bigger than a Note?

01:59:02.000 Well, they have small tablets.

01:59:04.000 But they had a...

01:59:05.000 It was a phone.

01:59:07.000 Oh, the Galaxy Mega?

01:59:09.000 Yes!

01:59:09.000 The huge one?

01:59:10.000 Yeah, they had like a...

01:59:11.000 The weird thing is, like, that I think was like a six and a half inch screen.

01:59:14.000 And that's where we're at now.

01:59:16.000 Was it really?

01:59:17.000 Yeah.

01:59:17.000 It was massive compared to what we had also in the market, which was like five inch screens.

01:59:22.000 I never saw one in the wild.

01:59:23.000 I reviewed one.

01:59:24.000 It was way bigger than any other phone out.

01:59:27.000 But I'm pretty sure if I look back, that was like a 6.5 inch screen.

01:59:31.000 It was less than 7 inch.

01:59:32.000 I think that's the sweet spot.

01:59:34.000 7 inch screen, tablet.

01:59:36.000 6 inch screen, phone.

01:59:37.000 Yeah.

01:59:38.000 And I think, yeah, this is a 6.2 inch screen.

01:59:41.000 This is a 6.5.

01:59:42.000 How big is the XS Max?

01:59:43.000 6.5 inch screen.

01:59:44.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 What's that?

01:59:46.000 It was 6.3.

01:59:47.000 Yeah.

01:59:47.000 Oh, wow.

01:59:48.000 So that's bigger than the Galaxy Mega.

01:59:50.000 That's crazy.

01:59:51.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

01:59:52.000 Endless entertainment.

01:59:53.000 Look at it.

01:59:54.000 Mega.

01:59:55.000 4x optical zoom.

01:59:57.000 But that thing still had the forehead and the bezels and the chin and everything. 0.97

02:00:01.000 Yeah.

02:00:01.000 Not that bad, really, in comparison to like an iPhone 8. It's kind of the same.

02:00:06.000 Galaxy Mega.

02:00:07.000 16 gigabytes.

02:00:09.000 Woo, baby.

02:00:13.000 Wow, look at that thing. 0.84

02:00:14.000 That's so weird.

02:00:15.000 I wonder what year that was.

02:00:16.000 That was like five...

02:00:18.000 No, don't tell me.

02:00:18.000 That was probably college, so like 2014, 2015. If you pulled that thing out, you were a pimp.

02:00:25.000 Like, what are you doing with that giant-ass phone? 0.99

02:00:28.000 Watching movies all the time. 0.89

02:00:29.000 Battery life, 44 minutes.

02:00:34.000 That was a fun time.

02:00:35.000 Yeah, it's crazy when you connect your phone to your car.

02:00:39.000 Here's the other one that just happened.

02:00:41.000 This tiny Palm phone.

02:00:43.000 I don't know if you've seen this.

02:00:44.000 So it's like a super small phone accessory to your normal phone.

02:00:51.000 So it does almost everything your normal phone does, but it's way smaller.

02:00:56.000 It has like half of the... 0.99

02:01:00.000 It says, congratulations, Pom, you've launched the stupidest product of the year. 0.99

02:01:05.000 It's a phone accessory to your phone. 1.00

02:01:08.000 They could have just made a small phone.

02:01:10.000 That would have been fine.

02:01:12.000 Yeah.

02:01:12.000 But then they made this whole thing where, like, oh, but it has to connect to your other phone, and then it uses the same phone number, but it works sometimes differently.

02:01:23.000 And Steph Curry is their ambassador, and I don't know anymore why someone would want to get that.

02:01:29.000 So how close does it have to be to your regular phone?

02:01:32.000 I think it has its own data or something.

02:01:36.000 I don't know.

02:01:36.000 It's kind of like an Apple Watch.

02:01:37.000 It's an accessory to your phone.

02:01:40.000 That kind of is the same form factor as a phone.

02:01:42.000 You put it in your pocket, you go to the gym, and you just bring that instead of bringing the main phone?

02:01:46.000 Or you just go on a hike, and you just don't want to bring your whole setup, so you just bring the little...

02:01:50.000 I'd like to be in the meeting with whatever Cokehead came up with that idea.

02:01:54.000 I don't know.

02:01:55.000 I can't think of any other really great reasons to have it.

02:01:58.000 I think the Apple Watch sort of has it nailed, right?

02:02:02.000 You get your notifications, but...

02:02:05.000 It's an accessory.

02:02:05.000 It's crazy that you enjoy it, even though you're not even using it for a lot of the features.

02:02:10.000 Yeah.

02:02:10.000 You're using it for the fitness aspect, and what else do you use on it?

02:02:13.000 Do you get, like, weather?

02:02:14.000 Honestly, yeah.

02:02:15.000 So, like, I have the 4G version.

02:02:16.000 I get the weather and silly stuff.

02:02:18.000 Oh, so it has the ability to make calls.

02:02:21.000 I do, but I never do.

02:02:22.000 You never do.

02:02:23.000 Like, if I wanted to call a restaurant and see what kind of, you know, hours they have, I could say, hey, Siri, and make a call.

02:02:28.000 But, yeah.

02:02:29.000 Yeah.

02:02:30.000 Now, is there nothing commensurate in the Google world?

02:02:35.000 I mean, there's other smartwatches.

02:02:38.000 There is technically...

02:02:39.000 Samsung also makes their own, but...

02:02:41.000 They have a Galaxy smartwatch that has kind of a cool spinning thing.

02:02:45.000 Yeah, Galaxy watch.

02:02:46.000 Yeah.

02:02:47.000 Yeah, it's probably the best Android-compatible smartwatch.

02:02:50.000 And Huawei has kind of a cool one, too, right?

02:02:53.000 So, Huawei did this thing that I thought was...

02:02:57.000 It was a good try.

02:02:58.000 It was a good try.

02:03:00.000 It was a smartwatch that has a digital screen but then had a mechanical hand so that it looked like a normal watch when the screen's not on.

02:03:12.000 The problem with that is when you go to look at your notifications or whatever you get...

02:03:17.000 The hands are blocking the screen.

02:03:19.000 So they didn't really think too hard about it.

02:03:22.000 I mean, they got to that point and they're like, oh, you know what we'll do?

02:03:24.000 We'll have this button where you press it and then the hands move out the way.

02:03:28.000 And then the screen, the notification will move to the side so you can read it.

02:03:35.000 It was...

02:03:36.000 Yeah.

02:03:37.000 They tried.

02:03:38.000 They really tried.

02:03:39.000 They tried to be different.

02:03:40.000 I respect the hell out of that.

02:03:42.000 Good try, Huawei, but no.

02:03:44.000 Now, do people...

02:03:46.000 Do companies ever come to you and say, Hey, man, you're really good at reviewing these things. 0.98

02:03:51.000 Are we fucking up here? 0.98

02:03:52.000 No. 0.99

02:03:54.000 Kind of.

02:03:55.000 Sort of.

02:03:56.000 Red came to me before this existed in this form.

02:04:02.000 It was in a prototype phase.

02:04:03.000 And they were still pretty far along, but it was kind of like, should we do this?

02:04:07.000 Like, should we put this here?

02:04:09.000 Should we keep the headphone jack?

02:04:10.000 I was giving them sort of small answers.

02:04:12.000 Oh, they kept the headphone jack?

02:04:12.000 Yeah, they kept the headphone jack.

02:04:13.000 Little things like that.

02:04:16.000 But for the most part, I think what a lot of people don't understand about product development is it happens many, many, many, many months before you ever see the product show up.

02:04:25.000 So I don't know if you remember like all the leaks about the Pixel 3 XL? All of them.

02:04:30.000 Guarantees six months before the phone came out it was done.

02:04:32.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 Like they knew that that's what it was going to look like.

02:04:34.000 More than I think any phone that I can recall.

02:04:36.000 Yeah, so that's the same as the iPhone.

02:04:39.000 Whatever the next iPhone is, they've been working on that iPhone, and it's probably gonna be a couple more months, and then they're finalizing design and things like that.

02:04:48.000 And so when you start to see phones come out around September and October, and they start to all kinda resemble each other, and then another one comes out and it looks the same, it's not like they saw the phone in early October and they were like, let's copy that, and then they made the next phone two weeks later.

02:05:04.000 They've been working on this forever.

02:05:06.000 The whole notch thing was, people were like, oh, I hope Google's trolling us and that's not really the notch and they're going to have this phone with no notch.

02:05:15.000 No, they've been working on this for a long time.

02:05:17.000 This is what they planned.

02:05:19.000 What is that one phone where the back slides up for the selfie camera?

02:05:23.000 So there's two...

02:05:24.000 I think what you're thinking of is the Oppo Find 10. Yes.

02:05:26.000 Yeah.

02:05:26.000 That's a pretty...

02:05:27.000 I like the idea.

02:05:29.000 It's pretty cool.

02:05:30.000 But I'm like, man, how long is that thing going to work?

02:05:32.000 That's the question.

02:05:33.000 It's going to get some potato chips in there.

02:05:36.000 Yeah.

02:05:37.000 Any little debris.

02:05:38.000 Cheeto crumbs.

02:05:38.000 The motors.

02:05:39.000 Yeah.

02:05:40.000 Phones are solid state for the most part.

02:05:41.000 For good reason.

02:05:42.000 You don't want a lot of moving parts in a phone that you're running around with.

02:05:46.000 There's another one called the Vivo Apex...

02:05:50.000 No, it's another Vivo phone, basically.

02:05:52.000 NEX is what it's called.

02:05:53.000 And it has just the selfie camera pop up at the top.

02:05:56.000 Yeah, I've seen that one too.

02:05:57.000 And that's another thing.

02:05:58.000 It's like, well, what if a grain of sand gets in there?

02:06:01.000 Like, is it toast immediately? 0.99

02:06:02.000 Yeah, if you drop that sucker on the beach. 0.95

02:06:03.000 If you drop it while it's open, is that over? 0.97

02:06:06.000 Vivo Nex S. Yeah, NEX S. Or Nex.

02:06:09.000 I don't know if I'm supposed to say Nex or whatever.

02:06:11.000 But that's a...

02:06:13.000 It's an interesting...

02:06:14.000 It looks cool.

02:06:15.000 Because now, look, you have the fingerprint reader under the glass.

02:06:17.000 You have all the way to the bottom is the screen and then all the way to the top is the screen.

02:06:20.000 And then you just have the selfie camera.

02:06:22.000 It looks awesome.

02:06:24.000 Yeah.

02:06:24.000 No bezels at all.

02:06:25.000 Yeah.

02:06:26.000 Or basically no bezels.

02:06:27.000 Pretty much.

02:06:28.000 Tiny chin at the bottom.

02:06:29.000 So that's the idea is like we're in this sort of a race to get to a bezel-less phone.

02:06:36.000 And I guess that's the closest we can get right now.

02:06:40.000 It's just having a little mechanical thing pop out.

02:06:42.000 I think what we want is the stuff to be behind the glass.

02:06:46.000 Yeah, a camera behind the glass, but then how would you see the image?

02:06:50.000 Yeah, so I think, based on what I know about the physics of the technology, you need an OLED display, and you need the camera to be behind the OLED display, and then when you light up The camera, you need a little black circle where those pixels are off so that they can shine through.

02:07:10.000 I don't know if this is all making sense.

02:07:12.000 I think you're still going to always have some sort of a black circle in the front of the phone somewhere.

02:07:18.000 Well, what's fascinating about iPhone versus Android is that there's so much more room for possibility with Android because you have so many different manufacturers.

02:07:27.000 Yep.

02:07:27.000 That are competing in that marketplace and trying to find some sort of a way to shine.

02:07:32.000 And that was where the Huawei, was it the Mate RS? Was it like the Porsche design version?

02:07:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:07:39.000 Where I thought that was a really interesting phone because it was stupid expensive. 0.98

02:07:42.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:07:42.000 But it had a gigantic battery. 0.98

02:07:44.000 It had an incredible 20 megapixel camera.

02:07:48.000 Great night photos.

02:07:50.000 Low light photos.

02:07:52.000 Yeah.

02:07:52.000 Yeah, they really try to do, like, you know, Porsche Design does a lot of different things they do.

02:07:58.000 Sunglasses.

02:07:59.000 Yeah, all kinds of merch.

02:08:00.000 Ballpoint pens.

02:08:01.000 They do all kinds of weird stuff.

02:08:02.000 It really has nothing to do with the car.

02:08:04.000 But what they really...

02:08:05.000 Design.

02:08:06.000 Yeah.

02:08:07.000 They came up with something really high-end.

02:08:10.000 Yeah.

02:08:10.000 And they showed there's some sort of a market for that.

02:08:13.000 Is that it right there?

02:08:13.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:08:14.000 They did it again, yes.

02:08:14.000 It's a beautiful phone.

02:08:15.000 Now they did, with the Mate 20, they did the same thing.

02:08:18.000 It's a great-looking phone.

02:08:21.000 But it's, again, when you look at, like, how much you have to pay versus what extra you're getting, you might as well just get the Mate 20 Pro and not worry about the extra design stuff. 0.98

02:08:31.000 People want that Porsche design thing just to go, look at me, I'm a baller, I'm a private jet, bitch. 1.00

02:08:38.000 They did the same, like, Porsche does that, Lamborghini does that, Ferrari does that, Tesla does that. 0.94

02:08:44.000 There is a...

02:08:46.000 Lamborghini edition Oppo Find 10. Yeah, I've heard.

02:08:50.000 It's like carbon fiber and yellow accents.

02:08:52.000 That's a badass-looking phone, though.

02:08:53.000 Well, I put it on the car, and it looks dope on the car, of course.

02:08:56.000 That's a dope-looking phone, period.

02:08:58.000 Did you mess with that phone at all?

02:09:00.000 I messed with the Mate 20, but not the Porsche design one.

02:09:03.000 But it comes down to, yeah, using the phone itself is going to be pretty much the same.

02:09:08.000 Once you get past the design, which is a little bit different, you open up the phone, and the software is...

02:09:13.000 You get a cool couple wallpapers, but it's the same phone on the inside.

02:09:17.000 A little more storage maybe, but basically the same thing.

02:09:21.000 I find it fascinating that they've decided to go that far out into the high-end deep end.

02:09:27.000 Yeah, I guess you have to to differentiate yourself at this point.

02:09:32.000 It's like $2,000, right?

02:09:32.000 Yeah, it starts at $2,000.

02:09:34.000 So as hype as you want to get about it, are you going to go pay $2,000 for that?

02:09:38.000 No.

02:09:38.000 Probably not.

02:09:40.000 But then when the Note 9 came out, it kind of took a lot of the wind out of their sails.

02:09:44.000 Battery was the same size, cameras fairly similar, big ass screen.

02:09:49.000 And the other thing about phones is we got all these phones that are $1,000 now, and it's made it so easy to...

02:09:57.000 To just bump up the price of your phone and not have anyone blink an eye.

02:10:01.000 I've been thinking about that a lot.

02:10:03.000 We have the iPhone X starts at $1,000, right?

02:10:06.000 So then the iPhone XR came out, and I think they could have priced it anywhere from $650 to $850, and they just nestled it right in there at $750, and you're like, oh, that's way cheaper.

02:10:19.000 So then this phone comes out, Pixel.

02:10:21.000 Pixel 3 and Pixel XL. You probably don't remember what the Pixel 2 cost.

02:10:25.000 But the Pixel 3 starts at $799, which seems what?

02:10:29.000 That's pretty reasonable, right?

02:10:30.000 Mid-range?

02:10:31.000 That's $150 more expensive than last year.

02:10:34.000 Why?

02:10:35.000 What's so much better about Pixel 3 than Pixel 2 that it's $150 more?

02:10:42.000 The market has just lifted everything plus $200 so that $1,000 is a high-end now.

02:10:49.000 And I think that's what's convinced companies like Huawei.

02:10:51.000 If we want to compete with Apple and really make what seems and looks like a premium phone, we have to charge $1,200 so that people know it's better than the iPhone.

02:11:00.000 If we charge $800, they're not going to think it's better than the iPhone.

02:11:04.000 We have to charge more than Apple's charging to prove that we have more in our phone.

02:11:09.000 But OnePlus is interesting because they're really reasonable, but their specs are very high.

02:11:13.000 I like them.

02:11:14.000 They've had a good history of, like, they usually listen to what people seem to want in a phone, and they're also good at, like, picking high-end numbers that look great on paper and usually translate pretty well to, like, using the phone.

02:11:28.000 But they always cut out...

02:11:30.000 They cut as many corners as they can to get the price as low as they can.

02:11:34.000 Their phone last year, it was about 550 bucks, right?

02:11:37.000 All glass, but no wireless charging.

02:11:40.000 But it's glass.

02:11:40.000 We have dual cameras.

02:11:42.000 We hardly ever use a second camera, but it's dual cameras.

02:11:45.000 8 gigs of RAM, Snapdragon 845. A lot of phones have the same specs now these days, but they've gotten pretty good at going the opposite direction.

02:11:53.000 We're not going to charge a thousand bucks.

02:11:55.000 We're going to make The same phone, trust us, it's the same, but for way less money.

02:12:01.000 That's a much more popular direction to go as far as sales.

02:12:04.000 Now, have they done the same strategy for the newest OnePlus?

02:12:07.000 Yep.

02:12:08.000 And they're coming out with a new one this month.

02:12:10.000 Oh, okay.

02:12:12.000 OnePlus 6T. They keep the headphone jack?

02:12:15.000 So far.

02:12:16.000 So far.

02:12:17.000 The headphone jack's a weird one, right? 0.99

02:12:18.000 It's like, how long is Samsung going to hold onto that sucker?

02:12:21.000 Samsung's been very popular for keeping the headphone jack and not having a notch. 0.57

02:12:26.000 They're like the last ones to have a headphone jack and no notch.

02:12:30.000 Well, I'm a big fan of the way the Note 9 looks when I'm using it.

02:12:35.000 I'm like, that's a beautiful device.

02:12:37.000 It feels premium in the hand.

02:12:41.000 What do you think is wrong with it?

02:12:43.000 With Note 9?

02:12:45.000 My biggest problem with Note 9 is the front-facing camera and the software.

02:12:50.000 And the software is not even that bad.

02:12:52.000 It's just, it's gotten slow for me quickly a lot of times, like I've been using Note 9. I also don't think it's the prettiest software.

02:12:59.000 I really like Samsung screens, so I know they can make good looking stuff.

02:13:02.000 But I think if they made, I don't know if you remember Google Play Edition when they used to do that?

02:13:08.000 If they made a Google Play Edition Galaxy Note 9, I would instantly buy that phone.

02:13:13.000 That would be sick because I love Google's software being cleaner and looking a little better.

02:13:18.000 Yeah.

02:13:18.000 If you look at Samsung software, it looks kind of cartoony a lot of times.

02:13:22.000 Very colorful.

02:13:23.000 Not a problem, but it's just not my favorite.

02:13:25.000 I know some people have figured out a way to use the Google launcher on other phones so they make other phones look like a Pixel.

02:13:32.000 Yeah, you can only go so far back.

02:13:37.000 You can use a Google launcher and you can use an icon pack to use Google icons, but still, you're going to have your settings pull down.

02:13:44.000 It's still going to look like Samsung.

02:13:45.000 You're going to have In the apps, like the settings app is still going to look like the Samsung settings app.

02:13:50.000 You're still going to have three email apps and three messaging apps and all this stuff Samsung always does.

02:13:55.000 Yeah, the messaging apps are weird.

02:13:56.000 You want this one to be your default?

02:13:58.000 I'm like, I don't know what that is.

02:13:59.000 Yeah.

02:14:00.000 What is that one?

02:14:01.000 I just want to use one and not have to think about it.

02:14:02.000 What's message plus?

02:14:03.000 Yeah.

02:14:04.000 Why is it better?

02:14:05.000 If you use a Verizon Samsung Note, I think you end up with three messaging apps.

02:14:11.000 Verizon Messages?

02:14:12.000 There's a Verizon Messenger, and then there's the Message Plus, and there's Google's Messenger, and it's just a lot.

02:14:18.000 And then there's Hangouts, and then how do I even get in touch with someone anymore?

02:14:22.000 It's a lot.

02:14:23.000 I wonder if there's ever going to be a time where something happens technologically where the walled garden of Apple sort of dissolves and everything becomes accessible.

02:14:33.000 Apple will fight till they die to let that wall go down. 1.00

02:14:37.000 They will never let that go down.

02:14:39.000 That's like one of their biggest, most prideful accomplishments is building that wall.

02:14:44.000 I mean, they really have nailed it.

02:14:46.000 Other than brand loyalty and other than the prestige of having an Apple product, which is all very high, that walled garden, that's where it's at.

02:14:54.000 Have you ever tried to leave an iPhone?

02:14:57.000 I did.

02:14:58.000 That's a whole thing. 1.00

02:15:00.000 It was a fucking nightmare. 1.00

02:15:02.000 Yep. 0.99

02:15:02.000 I couldn't get text messages. 0.99

02:15:04.000 That's very common.

02:15:05.000 And here's the thing.

02:15:05.000 I even called up Apple and I said, I want you to remove me from your...

02:15:10.000 From my message.

02:15:11.000 Yeah, from your...

02:15:12.000 I gave them my email address.

02:15:13.000 I gave them a phone number, the whole deal.

02:15:15.000 And they go, why?

02:15:16.000 I go, because I went with a Pixel phone.

02:15:18.000 And it was like, pause.

02:15:20.000 Like I just ate a baby. 1.00

02:15:21.000 Like, it's a different phone, you fucks. 1.00

02:15:24.000 I'm trying to find a different phone. 1.00

02:15:25.000 Let me out! 1.00

02:15:27.000 Let me out of the wall.

02:15:28.000 Let me out! 1.00

02:15:28.000 So then I call my friend. 1.00

02:15:29.000 I go, hey, man, send me a text.

02:15:31.000 Send me a text.

02:15:32.000 I sent it. 1.00

02:15:33.000 Shit! 1.00

02:15:34.000 Nothing. 1.00

02:15:35.000 I'm going to send you a text.

02:15:36.000 Nothing.

02:15:37.000 I'll go, okay.

02:15:38.000 I'm going to shut it off and turn it back on.

02:15:40.000 Nothing.

02:15:41.000 You have to start with a new phone number.

02:15:43.000 The wall.

02:15:44.000 Yeah.

02:15:44.000 You have to literally start with a new number.

02:15:46.000 You have to start from scratch and people get that green message.

02:15:48.000 I think that's a big reason why I don't make my main phone number an iPhone is because I know I'm like lowering myself into the garden.

02:15:55.000 Like I can use an iPhone but that will probably never be my main SIM. I have two SIMs.

02:16:00.000 My main number, the one everyone has, is an Android phone.

02:16:03.000 I think it'll stay that way as long as that's the way it is.

02:16:05.000 Well, I feel like you in your particular profession, you're a reviewer of all these things.

02:16:11.000 I think you kind of have to do that.

02:16:13.000 Yeah.

02:16:14.000 Because otherwise you'd be in this weird position of...

02:16:16.000 Not being able to leave.

02:16:17.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 That was the thing.

02:16:18.000 Okay, so there's a video Lou did actually this year.

02:16:22.000 We keep saying Lou.

02:16:23.000 Lou from Unbox Therapy.

02:16:24.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 Clarify.

02:16:26.000 Which was like, we all went to CES in January.

02:16:29.000 We're all in Vegas every year in January.

02:16:30.000 And we just went around the room and just went, what phone do you use?

02:16:33.000 I saw that video.

02:16:35.000 Yeah.

02:16:35.000 What phone is in your pocket right now?

02:16:37.000 Take it out and show us what phone you use.

02:16:38.000 iPhone after iPhone after iPhone.

02:16:40.000 And there's a couple pixels in there.

02:16:42.000 But every time you ask an iPhone person, like, so why an iPhone?

02:16:45.000 And they're like...

02:16:46.000 Man, iMessage, FaceTime, like that ecosystem is real.

02:16:50.000 Lou seemed angry.

02:16:52.000 More people weren't using pixels.

02:16:55.000 Well, there was a whole thing about just whatever phone.

02:16:59.000 There's a lot of people who do sponsored videos where they'll talk about a phone as if they use it, but they don't.

02:17:06.000 And that was one of the things that at CES specifically that we kind of had a laugh with at our studio because you would think, like, if you watched everyone's videos, like, oh, everyone's using a Huawei.

02:17:17.000 I guess Huawei had a big budget for CES and they just paid a bunch of people to make Mate 10 Pro videos at CES. So if you went into watching that video, like, what phone is in everyone's pocket?

02:17:29.000 I think you would just assume everyone's got a Huawei Mate 10 Pro and nobody did, which is really funny.

02:17:34.000 That's dirty.

02:17:36.000 And then the other thing is about Huawei, I hate trashing Huawei, but I also kind of love trashing Huawei, is they have a lot of money to pay celebrities to tweet ads for Huawei, basically.

02:17:49.000 Gal Gadot being one of them, right?

02:17:50.000 Have you heard this story?

02:17:52.000 So she's tweeted a bunch of Huawei ads, and I noticed that while she's a brand ambassador for Huawei, tweeting ads about how much she loves her Huawei phone, if you look in the details of the tweet, it's always via Twitter for iPhone.

02:18:08.000 And it's like, whatever.

02:18:09.000 She can use an iPhone.

02:18:10.000 I don't care.

02:18:10.000 But I thought it was funny, so I just tweeted it.

02:18:12.000 It's very funny.

02:18:12.000 It blew up.

02:18:13.000 And I had Huawei reach out to me like, how did you find this?

02:18:17.000 How did you know?

02:18:19.000 Where did you...

02:18:20.000 Is this a mistake?

02:18:21.000 Like, could this be a...

02:18:22.000 Like, has this ever malfunctioned?

02:18:24.000 I'm like, no.

02:18:26.000 That's how Twitter works.

02:18:27.000 Like, you can see the data.

02:18:28.000 It's clearly an iPhone.

02:18:29.000 Yeah.

02:18:30.000 And I thought that was hilarious.

02:18:32.000 That's my screenshot.

02:18:33.000 And so, not only did Gal Gadot block me... 0.99

02:18:37.000 Oh, Gal Gadot, the fucking Wonder Woman lady? 1.00

02:18:39.000 Yeah, Wonder Woman. 1.00

02:18:41.000 Wonder Woman, you fucking fake. 1.00

02:18:44.000 From an iPhone. 1.00

02:18:45.000 It's just funny because...

02:18:46.000 Look at the picture of her holding the phone. 0.99

02:18:48.000 That's so hilarious.

02:18:49.000 She blocked you? 0.78

02:18:50.000 Not only did she block me, but Huawei...

02:18:53.000 Since then, they deleted her latest tweets and reposted them from an Android phone, and she's tweeted from an Android phone ever since.

02:19:00.000 I'll give her respect for that.

02:19:01.000 Wow.

02:19:02.000 They probably told her you're going to lose all that cash.

02:19:04.000 There's no way she's tweeting.

02:19:06.000 She has a team.

02:19:07.000 I get it.

02:19:07.000 But whoever was on her team tweeting from an iPhone...

02:19:10.000 The fact that she blocked you, though, is gross.

02:19:13.000 I thought that was hilarious. 0.83

02:19:14.000 That's gross.

02:19:15.000 I thought it was really funny.

02:19:16.000 You didn't do anything mean.

02:19:17.000 No, I didn't.

02:19:18.000 Well, I tagged her in it, and she probably was just getting barraged by people going, you're using an iPhone.

02:19:24.000 Why?

02:19:26.000 I think it was a year later she unblocked me.

02:19:28.000 It was really funny.

02:19:29.000 Oh, she unblocked you?

02:19:30.000 She unblocked me. 0.76

02:19:31.000 Thanks, Gal.

02:19:32.000 Thanks, Gal.

02:19:33.000 Well, I really love her as Wonder Woman, and my friend Patty is actually directing that movie.

02:19:36.000 Oh, nice.

02:19:37.000 Directed the first one.

02:19:38.000 She's directing the second one, too.

02:19:39.000 She says gal's a great gal.

02:19:41.000 Tell gal I said hi.

02:19:42.000 Gal, it's okay.

02:19:43.000 You got busted.

02:19:44.000 It's all good.

02:19:44.000 It happens.

02:19:45.000 You're not alone.

02:19:45.000 You're 100% not alone.

02:19:47.000 That happened recently.

02:19:49.000 Razer, the company who made that Razer phone, tweeted their official announcement tweet of the Razer phone 2 from an iPhone.

02:19:58.000 Boom! 0.99

02:20:00.000 How?

02:20:01.000 Their speakers were excellent in the first one.

02:20:04.000 They're even better.

02:20:05.000 Are they better in the second one?

02:20:06.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 And the second one has IP68 or 67?

02:20:10.000 IP67, I'm pretty sure.

02:20:11.000 So water-resistant, up to like...

02:20:13.000 Up to 30 minutes, one meter, something like that.

02:20:16.000 Not bad.

02:20:16.000 You can splash it.

02:20:18.000 I wouldn't go underwater with it, but you can splash it.

02:20:19.000 But 68 is pretty damn good.

02:20:22.000 Yeah.

02:20:22.000 68 is the new iPhone, and 68 is also the Note.

02:20:25.000 Yes, both are 68. XR is 67. Pixel 3?

02:20:30.000 Pixel 3 is 68, I think, also.

02:20:33.000 But the weird thing about IP certification is it's just...

02:20:37.000 As far as I know, the way it works is you just submit the phone for a certain test, and if it passes, then you get to say it's certified.

02:20:45.000 And the only difference between IP67 and IP68 is IP67 is technically certified for 30 minutes, 1 meter.

02:20:54.000 And IP68 is certified for 30 minutes, 1.5 meters.

02:21:00.000 And the meter rating, sometimes it's two meters, sometimes it's a little more, but it's basically just a measurement of water pressure.

02:21:08.000 How much pressure is different than half a meter?

02:21:10.000 I don't know.

02:21:11.000 I mean, water is heavy, but it didn't seem that significant to me.

02:21:14.000 But it's basically just water pressure.

02:21:15.000 So if you splash the phone a little harder, is it going to break versus an IP68 phone?

02:21:21.000 I don't know.

02:21:21.000 It just seems safe to get IP68 every time, but it must be a big enough difference that some of them can't do it.

02:21:27.000 Yeah.

02:21:27.000 Huh.

02:21:28.000 Interesting.

02:21:29.000 Yeah.

02:21:29.000 Well, listen, man, I'm glad we finally got a chance to do this.

02:21:32.000 Yeah.

02:21:32.000 It's really cool.

02:21:33.000 It's a lot of fun.

02:21:34.000 I'm a giant fan of your videos.

02:21:35.000 Thank you.

02:21:36.000 I really did, I mean, like I said at the beginning, I really do go to you immediately.

02:21:40.000 I think you do a fantastic job.

02:21:41.000 You cover all the bases.

02:21:43.000 You do a great job.

02:21:43.000 Awesome.

02:21:44.000 Awesome stuff.

02:21:45.000 Thank you.

02:21:45.000 I appreciate that.

02:21:46.000 Keep it up, man.

02:21:46.000 For sure.

02:21:46.000 Give people the address of your YouTube channel, your Twitter, Instagram, all that jazz.

02:21:51.000 It'll always be the same five letters, MKBHD. So, YouTube.com slash MKBHD. What does that stand for?

02:21:58.000 MKB is my initials.

02:22:00.000 Oh, okay.

02:22:00.000 HD for high definition.

02:22:01.000 Oh, alright.

02:22:03.000 There you go.

02:22:04.000 MKBHD on everything.

02:22:05.000 Everything.

02:22:05.000 Alright.

02:22:05.000 Thanks, brother.

02:22:06.000 I appreciate it.

02:22:06.000 No problem.

02:22:07.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 23, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1186 - Marques Brownlee

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