The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1238 - Brian Redban

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00:00:08.000 Hey, fella. 0.98

00:00:09.000 What's going on?

00:00:10.000 Hey! 0.99

00:00:11.000 I'd like to get that quick quick fix.

00:00:13.000 Oh my god.

00:00:14.000 It's so amazing how fast it came back to me, like the addiction of playing that game over and over again.

00:00:19.000 It's a real problem.

00:00:20.000 Yeah.

00:00:21.000 Yeah, we've been going crazy. 0.97

00:00:22.000 Jamie's been fucking me up, too. 0.88

00:00:24.000 So today, I got lucky that he had to help you. 1.00

00:00:27.000 Get his shit together. 1.00

00:00:28.000 Three early kills. 1.00

00:00:28.000 Dude, he's been fucking me up. 1.00

00:00:30.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:31.000 Not nice.

00:00:32.000 You don't really play Quake, right?

00:00:33.000 It's from playing Fortnite and stuff.

00:00:35.000 I tested myself a little bit because I knew this was going to happen eventually, so I had to get some practice with some rockets at some point.

00:00:42.000 But it honestly helps to warm up with Quake to play Fortnite or PUBG or something like that because the Quake...

00:00:47.000 Whatever it is of aiming, you don't do it that much.

00:00:50.000 So when you're doing it three times, you've already done it 55 times playing Quake just in one round.

00:00:54.000 So your little interaction you have with someone on a shotgun, you usually win.

00:00:58.000 Quake is so fast-paced.

00:01:00.000 We're playing Quake 4. It's like, Jesus Christ.

00:01:04.000 I haven't played that game in maybe 15 years.

00:01:06.000 Me too.

00:01:07.000 I didn't think you were ever going to do it again.

00:01:08.000 I probably shouldn't.

00:01:09.000 What I noticed is my eyesight sucks now.

00:01:12.000 My eyesight is not nearly as good.

00:01:14.000 It's interesting.

00:01:15.000 From like 42 to 46, there was a big drop-off. 0.99

00:01:18.000 And at 46, the fucking floor fell out. 1.00

00:01:21.000 Now it's like, my eyesight's shit. 1.00

00:01:24.000 Gamer glasses. 0.99

00:01:25.000 It takes me a minute when I play games too.

00:01:27.000 One game isn't enough yet.

00:01:29.000 It probably takes 10 minutes, maybe less, but like to just...

00:01:32.000 Start tracking things, getting your eyes up to speed, the distance you are away from that screen.

00:01:37.000 It takes a little bit of time to get in there.

00:01:40.000 Yeah, man.

00:01:41.000 Right now we're just playing it on the local area network, but once you start going online and playing other people, that's when it gets super, super addictive.

00:01:49.000 People that still play that game must be insane. 0.79

00:01:52.000 Oh my god, I don't want to be anywhere near those psychopaths. 0.97

00:01:54.000 If they're playing that game, it's because they're really good at it, probably.

00:01:58.000 Young kids aren't buying that game.

00:02:07.000 I think so, yeah.

00:02:20.000 I don't know.

00:02:21.000 Oh my gosh.

00:02:21.000 I don't remember.

00:02:22.000 I don't remember either.

00:02:23.000 I know there was Rocket Arena for Quake 2, and there was Rocket Arena for Quake 3, because I started with Rocket Arena for Quake 2, which if you played today, you would think the graphics are hilariously bad.

00:02:33.000 But it's a good game.

00:02:35.000 It's a little slower.

00:02:37.000 The fast game was like Quake 1 was really fast, Quake 2 was slower, and then Quake 3 became more like Quake 1, a combination of Quake 1 and Quake 2. It was pretty fast.

00:02:47.000 Quake 4 is probably perfect.

00:02:48.000 Mm-hmm.

00:02:50.000 I miss it.

00:02:50.000 And you tried to play the new Quake, but you didn't like it as much?

00:02:53.000 The only problem is, it's fun.

00:02:55.000 We had a good time.

00:02:56.000 The only problem is, you have to do everything through their servers.

00:03:00.000 So it takes time.

00:03:01.000 It's got a load.

00:03:02.000 It's like, it's not...

00:03:04.000 I'm impatient.

00:03:05.000 Right. 1.00

00:03:06.000 I'm a fucking child. 1.00

00:03:07.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Yeah.

00:03:09.000 And you refuse to try any of the other ones, right?

00:03:13.000 They're all just new addictions, you know, waiting to happen.

00:03:16.000 I just feel like if I got one addiction...

00:03:20.000 This weekend on Saturday, they had a concert in Fortnite.

00:03:24.000 Yeah, Marshmallow.

00:03:25.000 It was crazy.

00:03:26.000 What does that mean?

00:03:27.000 It's tough to explain, but it's called an event.

00:03:30.000 What they're calling it is like an event.

00:03:31.000 So, at 2 o'clock, everybody showed up at the game. 0.99

00:03:36.000 And this fucking concert started. 0.99

00:03:39.000 So all the avatars were together in one gigantic room? 0.99

00:03:42.000 The normal mode, you played it just like normal, and then all of a sudden, two minutes to go, they took everybody's guns away, and you all just sort of congregated around the stage, and the music started, the show started, they started doing interactive things with all the avatars and everything, and ten minutes later,

00:03:57.000 it just cut off.

00:03:58.000 But it turns out it was actually live.

00:04:01.000 He was tweeting about it all day for promotion and whatnot, but people were asking, like, how'd you do that?

00:04:05.000 How'd you work it out?

00:04:06.000 His voice was going live to everyone who was playing.

00:04:09.000 It was probably millions of people.

00:04:11.000 You know, it's just normal DJ voice stuff, like, hey, jump, guys!

00:04:15.000 Hey! 0.99

00:04:15.000 Was it? 0.99

00:04:16.000 He was just like, hey, guys, come on.

00:04:18.000 He wasn't interacting as much as he probably does during a normal set when he's playing to 20,000 people in Vegas or whatever it is.

00:04:24.000 So when he does it, he probably has a really good microphone, too. 0.99

00:04:27.000 It's not like the microphone that you talk shit on. 0.98

00:04:29.000 Yeah, they had something else set up. 0.96

00:04:31.000 When we first started doing Quake, you had to type.

00:04:34.000 Yeah.

00:04:35.000 That's how goofy it was. 0.99

00:04:36.000 You couldn't talk shit. 1.00

00:04:37.000 Like, now people are talking, like, they're all in a group together talking shit, right? 1.00

00:04:41.000 I have a voice changer now, too. 0.99

00:04:43.000 But doesn't the talking shit get in the way, like, if you hear people talking, it gets in the way of hearing sounds, like sound cues? 0.99

00:04:49.000 Yes. 1.00

00:04:49.000 You tell your teammates to shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:04:50.000 You can turn that off also. 1.00

00:04:52.000 Oh, you can?

00:04:52.000 Yeah.

00:04:52.000 I like to hear the footsteps coming around the corner and stuff.

00:04:56.000 It makes it scary.

00:04:57.000 Yeah.

00:04:57.000 It's part of what's scary about Quake, is, like, you hear someone running, like, and you know they're right around the corner.

00:05:03.000 You can control all that.

00:05:04.000 It's all up to you.

00:05:06.000 Volume settings and all that kind of thing.

00:05:07.000 It's a very, very addictive game.

00:05:09.000 So we should talk about this, the Jack podcast, because everybody got so upset about it.

00:05:14.000 And let's clear up a few things.

00:05:16.000 First of all, the guy seems to be willing to talk about anything.

00:05:19.000 It's not that I didn't want to talk to him about those things.

00:05:22.000 It's just he was being, I wouldn't say he's evasive, but he was basically just saying what he knew based on the company policy.

00:05:32.000 I didn't know what else more to ask him.

00:05:34.000 And people felt like I didn't press him hard enough.

00:05:37.000 And he, to his credit, reached out to me and said that he would offer to do another one to ask more questions.

00:05:45.000 That's cool.

00:05:45.000 And I said, that would be awesome.

00:05:46.000 So I said, well, this is the thing that people seem to be upset about.

00:05:50.000 They seem to be upset about very specific cases.

00:05:53.000 Where people showed, like, if people were right-wing and they were posting things, they were banned, whereas people who are left-wing or maybe people of different races were allowed to post racist things or more offensive things and even dox people and didn't suffer any consequences for it.

00:06:14.000 This is the argument.

00:06:16.000 My problem is I don't spend enough time reading this stuff.

00:06:19.000 I don't know.

00:06:20.000 Like this is like when people get banned.

00:06:23.000 Like Anthony Cooney is a friend of mine.

00:06:24.000 I don't really know why he got banned.

00:06:26.000 I don't know what happened.

00:06:27.000 I know there was that incident with that woman that punched him and he wound up getting fired. 1.00

00:06:32.000 He was drunk and he said a bunch of really stupid shit on Twitter and then later apologized for it. 1.00

00:06:37.000 But I don't know if that's what got him kicked off of Twitter. 1.00

00:06:41.000 But he's my friend.

00:06:42.000 So what I'm saying is all these other guys that have problems... 0.98

00:06:46.000 I don't know what the fuck happened, man. 0.98

00:06:47.000 I'm busy. 0.99

00:06:48.000 I really don't.

00:06:49.000 I don't know.

00:06:50.000 I don't even know what got Alex Jones kicked off, which is why I asked him because that was one of the last platforms for Alex Jones was Twitter, but something got him kicked off.

00:07:00.000 Their take on it was that they never kicked him off before because he didn't violate their terms of service.

00:07:06.000 And another thing that's very encouraging that Jack said, and I know it's fun to get mad at things.

00:07:11.000 It's fun to get mad at him.

00:07:12.000 It's fun to get mad at me for it.

00:07:14.000 I get it.

00:07:14.000 I'd probably do the exact same thing.

00:07:15.000 I totally understand it.

00:07:18.000 But one of the things that he said was that he believes that the ability to communicate on the internet through Twitter or through these platforms is a basic human right.

00:07:30.000 That's how you look.

00:07:31.000 I said, do you think of it like a network, like NBC? Like if you're on NBC, they can decide what's on and what's not on.

00:07:38.000 Or do you look at it like a utility?

00:07:41.000 And he specifically said that he looked at it more like that, that he thought it was a basic right.

00:07:46.000 That's very encouraging.

00:07:48.000 He also said that he would bring on whoever it is in his team that's responsible for these things.

00:07:54.000 So we could hear from the actual person who decides who's getting banned and why they're getting banned and what's the decision-making behind all these things.

00:08:04.000 We can go over all of them.

00:08:07.000 I didn't think the podcast would create such a controversy, but that's probably poor prior planning on my part. 0.96

00:08:16.000 Because my thought about it was, hey, it's fucking crazy to be running Twitter. 0.91

00:08:22.000 It's crazy that this thing exists, that the president uses it as a platform. 0.95

00:08:25.000 I want to talk about the dude who created this.

00:08:27.000 And what is this like to have this thing evolve to become what it's become?

00:08:31.000 Because it didn't start out that way. 0.95

00:08:33.000 It started out like fun shit, like at Brian Redband's going to the movies. 0.98

00:08:38.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:08:38.000 Like that's what people used it for. 0.99

00:08:39.000 And then along the way, it became this global method of distributing information where people use it in war zones, man.

00:08:47.000 They use it to tell people where attacks are. 0.98

00:08:49.000 They use it for all kinds of crazy shit. 0.98

00:08:51.000 It's a really powerful but strange medium. 0.98

00:08:55.000 I didn't think about getting into the weeds with all the very specific people that got banned.

00:09:01.000 I just wanted to find out why they banned people.

00:09:03.000 That was my take on it.

00:09:04.000 I know there's a lot of conservative voices that have never been banned.

00:09:09.000 I don't think Steven Crowder's been banned.

00:09:11.000 I don't think Cernovich has been banned.

00:09:13.000 Has he been banned?

00:09:14.000 There's a bunch that have not been banned.

00:09:17.000 Right?

00:09:18.000 So it's not like they ban all right-wing voices.

00:09:20.000 So what is it?

00:09:21.000 I don't know what it is.

00:09:22.000 I think it's what he said, people reporting the tweet, and then somebody's looking at it going, well, this does violate our policy.

00:09:30.000 And maybe all these people that got banned violated the policy somehow.

00:09:36.000 It's probably as simple and cut clean as that.

00:09:39.000 It's not that simple, right?

00:09:40.000 Because they make their own policies. 0.95

00:09:43.000 And it's also not that simple if people are allowed to say similar things that are very racist and vast generalizations about white people, which seems to have been the case in at least a few instances, where people reported that people said fucked up things about white people, 0.95

00:10:03.000 but there was no repercussions. 0.68

00:10:05.000 And, you know, that's where the argument becomes these people are more oppressed, and so the white people are thought of as the oppressor.

00:10:15.000 So you have this white privilege thing that people like to use now as a reason to decide to silence someone, like check your white privilege.

00:10:24.000 That's an interesting thing that's happening.

00:10:25.000 So if there's this genuine movement where people think that it's okay to say things about one race, Whether you like it or not, that's racism.

00:10:37.000 And if you're allowing that from any one side and not allowing it from another side, it seems hypocritical. 0.91

00:10:43.000 Look, it's very distasteful. 0.94

00:10:45.000 The idea of racism against black people in this country is very distasteful to everybody, almost everybody who's not a racist, right?

00:10:52.000 Because of the history of this country, because of slavery, because of all these things, it's a different connotation.

00:10:58.000 But if you just allow people to say terrible things about any race, it's racism.

00:11:05.000 You're allowing a predetermined attitude about a race.

00:11:11.000 Some people have done this.

00:11:13.000 They have made generalizations, racist statements about white people.

00:11:20.000 The really weird thing that people are throwing around these days is that you can't be racist against white people because racism is about power and influence.

00:11:31.000 It's about using that black people are not powerful, that white people are powerful, and the white people are the ones who are oppressed, so it's impossible to be racist against them. 0.99

00:11:41.000 That sounds like horseshit to me. 0.99

00:11:43.000 I'm not buying that. 0.99

00:11:44.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:11:45.000 It's not beneficial to anybody to generalize.

00:11:48.000 This is what we've got to get in our head. 1.00

00:11:49.000 It doesn't matter if you're black or if you're white or if you're whatever the fuck you are. 0.99

00:11:53.000 It is not beneficial to generalize, to take a person out of the group that we think of as just human. 0.99

00:12:02.000 Individuals.

00:12:03.000 You have to be an individual.

00:12:05.000 I mean, I acknowledge the fact that people look different, they have different heritages, they have different ancestry, there's different parts of the world, there's all these differences.

00:12:17.000 But at the end of the day, the only way we're all going to get true equality and true kinship and camaraderie as human beings is if we recognize we're just all a human being.

00:12:28.000 That's it.

00:12:29.000 There are very big differences in the way we look and the things we like.

00:12:33.000 That's cool. 0.99

00:12:34.000 But as soon as you can say shitty things about white people or white men... 0.98

00:12:41.000 That leaves everybody who doesn't fit that description guilty in this weird way or presumed guilty because of a racist statement. 0.98

00:12:50.000 That's all it is.

00:12:51.000 It's not good for anybody.

00:12:52.000 I get it that it's different than racism against black people in America, a country that was built essentially in a lot of ways by slavery.

00:13:03.000 There's a war for slavery in this country. 0.96

00:13:05.000 There's a crazy reality that it's not your responsibility.

00:13:09.000 It's not mine.

00:13:10.000 I didn't do it.

00:13:10.000 You didn't do it.

00:13:11.000 But it's real.

00:13:12.000 Therefore, as a person who's aware of history, the history of this country, racism against white people seems different. 0.99

00:13:20.000 But it still sucks to be racist against black people. 0.99

00:13:24.000 It seems different. 1.00

00:13:25.000 But it still sucks to be racist against white people. 1.00

00:13:28.000 It sucks to be racist against Puerto Ricans. 1.00

00:13:30.000 It's not good. 1.00

00:13:30.000 It's not good for anybody. 1.00

00:13:33.000 That's what we have to understand about this social media thing.

00:13:37.000 What actually did happen, and what is happening, and why is it happening?

00:13:41.000 And if it's just some social justice warrior ethic that you're not debating, it doesn't seem fair.

00:13:47.000 It seems like there should be a conversation about this.

00:13:49.000 And I bet they're super reasonable, really intelligent people, and it's possible they can come to a good place that we can all agree to.

00:13:59.000 That is possible.

00:14:00.000 I'm not a cynical person.

00:14:01.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:14:01.000 I know a lot of you are like, fuck them, they just want this, they just want that. 1.00

00:14:04.000 Guess what? 1.00

00:14:05.000 They already have it.

00:14:06.000 They have more money than they could ever spend.

00:14:08.000 And my dealings with Jack as a person, he seems like a very nice guy and a very smart guy and a very empathetic guy.

00:14:18.000 I just think he's in a crazy, unmanageable situation.

00:14:22.000 To be running something like Twitter, Yeah, and there's probably people that did something that they should have done in terms of silencing people and moving things around.

00:14:32.000 It's probably happened.

00:14:33.000 It's a weird thing when people have influence over people, and there have been videos that have been proven where executives from a bunch of different social media corporations have talked about how to silence certain voices, how to push down certain voices.

00:14:50.000 This is something that needs to be discussed.

00:14:52.000 Is this a policy as a whole?

00:14:56.000 Is it because you think you're pushing the right message?

00:15:01.000 As soon as someone thinks they're pushing the right message, but there's no debate about that.

00:15:06.000 They just decide our way is the right way.

00:15:09.000 And they're pushing this, and there's a radical opposition to that message from half the country.

00:15:15.000 But you're like, no, no, no.

00:15:16.000 But this is the one that's in control of the narrative.

00:15:19.000 This is the one that's in control of social media.

00:15:21.000 It's this far left-leaning ideology.

00:15:24.000 And the other part gets pushed aside.

00:15:26.000 That's a very bad situation for all of us.

00:15:30.000 Because there has to be conversation.

00:15:32.000 There has to be debate. 0.97

00:15:33.000 Because if there's not, it just shores up the differences between two people and they fucking hate each other even more. 0.94

00:15:38.000 I did not take that into account. 0.99

00:15:40.000 And I fucked up. 0.97

00:15:42.000 That's my mistake. 0.98

00:15:43.000 That is my mistake when I made that podcast.

00:15:45.000 But I didn't take it easy on them because I didn't want to discuss those issues.

00:15:49.000 I just didn't think enough of it in advance.

00:15:52.000 I'm not as involved in it as other people are.

00:15:55.000 I'm aware that there's censorship in social media.

00:15:58.000 I'm aware.

00:16:01.000 My ideas going into that conversation were more about how insane this method is for distributing information.

00:16:08.000 For the people that have been banned, and for the people that were fans of the people that were banned, I can understand why they'd be upset at me.

00:16:15.000 It has nothing to do with any preconceived notions that I had.

00:16:20.000 It's just how the conversation took place.

00:16:22.000 That's all it is.

00:16:23.000 And if you felt left down by that, you didn't feel like it was extensive enough, I'm more than willing to do it and go further into it, and we're going to, and Jack offered it, and he's going to bring someone else who's going to explain things to us.

00:16:36.000 I think this would be very beneficial for everybody.

00:16:38.000 I also think that there should be a road to redemption.

00:16:43.000 I think if you've got something that's important as Twitter or Facebook, Or Instagram.

00:16:49.000 If you're not stealing someone's stuff like, you know, using copyrighted music or something on an Instagram page where you get banned over and over again for doing it but you keep doing it.

00:16:59.000 If it's not something like that, if it's an ideological difference, if maybe you crossed a line that they decided was a line, you should be able to work your way back.

00:17:09.000 There should be a way where you can sign up again.

00:17:14.000 You mean like get a new email address?

00:17:16.000 I don't mean that, man.

00:17:17.000 I mean, be the same person.

00:17:18.000 You should be able to be the same person.

00:17:20.000 There should be a way.

00:17:21.000 Well, there should be different levels, definitely. 0.99

00:17:24.000 People fuck up, man. 0.99

00:17:25.000 They fuck up and they make mistakes, right? 1.00

00:17:27.000 And people also grow. 0.99

00:17:29.000 I mean, there's this guy that was on Sam Harris's podcast. 0.99

00:17:34.000 Christian Piccolini, I think is his name, he was a fucking white supremacist, a full-on white supremacist, and now he is the exact opposite. 0.98

00:17:43.000 He's like this very progressive guy who gives speeches on the dangers of racism and the ideology, how it caught up with him. 0.98

00:17:51.000 Now, if he got banned when he was a young man and making terrible decisions and then became a better person, shouldn't we give a guy like that a chance to get back in a platform?

00:18:03.000 Without making a whole new screen name.

00:18:07.000 Maybe it would be...

00:18:09.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with the anonymous model.

00:18:13.000 We're good to go.

00:18:34.000 But could put them at risk, especially in like third world countries or war-torn countries.

00:18:39.000 That could be a huge problem if you have to post, you know, Brian Redband.

00:18:44.000 If there's the only way you can get this information out, you have to use your whole name.

00:18:49.000 But it'd probably be better off for everybody if people had a way of communicating with each other like it's just person to person.

00:19:01.000 And I think The real problem is when people try to engineer these conversations, and this is another conversation about YouTube.

00:19:10.000 People have said that we're deleting comments on YouTube.

00:19:13.000 We're not deleting anything.

00:19:15.000 We haven't deleted any comments.

00:19:16.000 I don't know how it works.

00:19:18.000 I don't read them.

00:19:19.000 I'm sure people say mean things.

00:19:21.000 Have a good time.

00:19:22.000 The thumbs up, thumbs down thing.

00:19:23.000 Look, you don't have to have that on there.

00:19:26.000 You don't have to have comments on there.

00:19:27.000 YouTube gives you the option to have comments on and to have the thumbs up, thumbs down.

00:19:31.000 I'm not taking those off.

00:19:32.000 Have a good time with it. 0.87

00:19:33.000 But we're not fucking with that.

00:19:35.000 There's something that they're doing that's not, it's not, I post at 341 and Jamie posts at 342 and this is the line of the comments.

00:19:47.000 It's not like that.

00:19:49.000 They've got their own way of doing it.

00:19:51.000 The question is, why does YouTube do it?

00:19:54.000 What are they trying to do?

00:19:56.000 Are they trying to block out spam?

00:19:59.000 Are they trying to block out hate speech?

00:20:01.000 Are they trying to engineer conversation?

00:20:03.000 Are you talking about comment order?

00:20:04.000 Comments on...

00:20:05.000 No.

00:20:06.000 Comments disappear.

00:20:07.000 They go away.

00:20:08.000 A lot of times, it's automatic.

00:20:10.000 If somebody flags a comment, they'll just take the comment away until it's looked over upon.

00:20:15.000 Only one person?

00:20:17.000 Yeah.

00:20:17.000 I think on YouTube that happens quite often.

00:20:20.000 Probably as little as one or two people, yeah.

00:20:22.000 So that is probably what's happening to all you folks that think your comments are getting deleted. 0.99

00:20:27.000 No one's deleting shit. 0.98

00:20:29.000 Look, I'm not attached to what I do in the sense that I'm unwilling to look at what I do wrong. 0.99

00:20:36.000 I try to look at everything that I do wrong, including this.

00:20:39.000 So if you were upset at this podcast because you thought somehow or another I sold out because I didn't ask him any more questions, I just asked him the questions I wanted to ask.

00:20:48.000 I understand you have more questions.

00:20:51.000 And I do too.

00:20:52.000 I have more questions too.

00:20:53.000 Especially upon seeing people's reaction to it and upon making myself pay more attention to all these various stories.

00:21:03.000 Matt sent us a list of them. 0.99

00:21:05.000 Some of them are really fucking crazy. 0.98

00:21:07.000 There's some crazy things people have said and not gotten in trouble for. 0.99

00:21:11.000 Whereas other people said things that really weren't that bad and got in trouble for it.

00:21:14.000 Why is that?

00:21:16.000 That's a good question to ask.

00:21:17.000 So we'll concentrate on that.

00:21:19.000 We're just going to work out a date.

00:21:21.000 So my humblest apologies to all of you.

00:21:23.000 I'm not trying to let anybody down.

00:21:25.000 I always try to do my best.

00:21:27.000 That's it.

00:21:28.000 And also, here's another clear one.

00:21:31.000 No one tells me what to do.

00:21:32.000 There's no secret person behind the scenes. 0.99

00:21:35.000 If I fuck up, it's because of me. 1.00

00:21:37.000 It's my fuck up. 1.00

00:21:38.000 I should have prepared more. 0.99

00:21:40.000 I should have thought about it more.

00:21:41.000 But I didn't realize how upset people would be.

00:21:43.000 I thought it was a great interview, and I didn't even think of that.

00:21:47.000 I thought you kind of touched on it a little when you were talking about Alex Jones, and I think that was like, okay, this is what happens.

00:21:53.000 Well, it's a very specific group of people that are upset.

00:21:55.000 It's right-wing guys.

00:21:57.000 There's a lot of American flags, a lot of Pepe the Frogs.

00:22:00.000 It's all right people.

00:22:02.000 Look, man, easily could have been me at many points of my life.

00:22:07.000 Easily. 0.70

00:22:08.000 Especially being a troll online. 1.00

00:22:10.000 You know, if you're working in some fucking job and you're making Pepe the Frog memes and you're fucking with people, I get it. 1.00

00:22:16.000 I get it. 0.99

00:22:17.000 It's one of the things I like about the internet.

00:22:20.000 Like, I don't...

00:22:22.000 I don't want to be comfortable.

00:22:23.000 I'm like, I don't want to be comfortable all the time.

00:22:25.000 I want a little bit of chaos. 0.98

00:22:27.000 I like the fact that just people, like, they're like that fucking, I was upset that that Radiolab podcast, they took it down, where they were fucking with Shia Labu, with those guys from 4chan, and the way they took it down was they contacted Radiolab and said, those guys are white supremacists and they support white supremacy, 0.98

00:22:44.000 you know, and you just, you know, you made these people that are awful, terrible people that write terrible things, you gave them props. 0.98

00:22:52.000 But the thing about something like 4chan is, no, you might read some terrible things, but you gotta realize you're also reading terrible things from anonymous people that are working at their jobs most of the time, and they're trying to fuck with people's head, and they're trying to get people upset. 0.98

00:23:07.000 They're having a good time fucking with people.

00:23:09.000 If you want to take them as them giving a talk to a dear friend or them giving an affidavit in court, you're missing the whole thing. 0.99

00:23:18.000 It's entertainment.

00:23:20.000 Half of the whole reason why they're doing it is entertainment. 0.99

00:23:22.000 They didn't go steal Shia LaBeou's flag and go right to the camera and go, fuck Shia LaBeou, by using coordinates from photographs of the sky where they figured out where the fucking... 0.96

00:23:33.000 Where the constellations lie and then drove around honking their horn so that they could locate where it was by using the webcam and listening to how close they got to it. 1.00

00:23:43.000 I mean, it's fucking genius shit. 0.99

00:23:45.000 And it got taken down just by this accusation of them being racist. 1.00

00:23:49.000 But the thing about a forum like 4chan or Reddit or anything, you have so many fucking people! 0.96

00:23:56.000 You have thousands and thousands and thousands of people. 1.00

00:24:01.000 If you just have ten cunts posting jokes about black people, that's all you need to ruin the reputation of thousands of people. 1.00

00:24:10.000 So, for someone to say that everybody that was like, fuck Shia LaBeou, is some racist and white supremacist, that's a cheap word. 1.00

00:24:17.000 Way out. 1.00

00:24:18.000 That's a cheap way out. 0.98

00:24:20.000 I bet more likely it's some dude who's bored and he's sitting in front of his fucking computer and he works all day and this is where he escapes. 1.00

00:24:27.000 He escapes and types and writes things then checks them later and then goes back to it and types things and checks and it keeps him sane in this stupid fucking cubicle. 1.00

00:24:37.000 That's a lot of the people. 0.99

00:24:39.000 So they pulled that whole amazing podcast down because of that. 0.92

00:24:43.000 Look, the Shia LaBeou thing was ridiculous.

00:24:46.000 He will not divide us. 0.98

00:24:48.000 Come on! 0.61

00:24:49.000 Stop! 1.00

00:24:50.000 Stop! 1.00

00:24:51.000 We're going to chant that everywhere.

00:24:52.000 It's funny what they did.

00:24:54.000 They mocked something.

00:24:55.000 That's their way of mocking it.

00:24:57.000 Nobody got hurt.

00:24:58.000 They made it out like it was an awful crime they committed on this amazing person who was just trying to change the world.

00:25:04.000 No, no.

00:25:05.000 They pranked Shia LaBeou. 1.00

00:25:07.000 And they said, fuck Shia LaBeouf. 1.00

00:25:10.000 Is that how you say it? 1.00

00:25:11.000 Shia LaBeouf.

00:25:13.000 LaBeouf, whatever it is.

00:25:14.000 Shia LaBeouf.

00:25:15.000 I'm sure he's a nice guy, too. 0.98

00:25:17.000 He probably did something silly. 0.98

00:25:19.000 It's a little silly. 0.97

00:25:20.000 He will not divide us.

00:25:22.000 What they did was funny.

00:25:23.000 It's a funny reaction.

00:25:24.000 I like that.

00:25:26.000 I like that.

00:25:27.000 This is an important part of this thing.

00:25:30.000 If it wasn't for people like that, there would be no podcast.

00:25:34.000 Now, the like to dislike ratio that you see on YouTube videos is fascinating, right? 0.98

00:25:40.000 Because it's weaponized and they're thinking about trying to ban that now because so many people use it to fuck with people. 0.99

00:25:47.000 I hate to say this about you folks, but every time we have a chick on here, they get fucking tortured. 0.99

00:25:52.000 The like to dislike, right? 0.99

00:25:54.000 It's ruthless.

00:25:55.000 Except Rhonda Patrick.

00:25:56.000 Except Rhonda Patrick.

00:25:57.000 Right, but it's weaponized.

00:25:59.000 They're just going to dislike it because...

00:26:01.000 Because it's fun, though.

00:26:02.000 Because it's fun.

00:26:03.000 Look, it's also fun to throw a rock at a window.

00:26:05.000 It's fun.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, and some of them probably didn't even watch the podcast.

00:26:09.000 Thumbs down.

00:26:11.000 Disliking it gives a little bit of power in the algorithm of deranking it and thinks you affected something.

00:26:17.000 And people who liked it, there's probably a lot of them that didn't even watch it.

00:26:20.000 It's a button you can press.

00:26:21.000 People are weird.

00:26:22.000 But clearly it shows by the amount of dislike that people moved on it and they were upset about it.

00:26:29.000 So...

00:26:30.000 That's basically it.

00:26:31.000 We'll see.

00:26:32.000 There's a lot of cool, interesting questions to ask him.

00:26:34.000 I always thought shadow banning was a real thing, but I think he came out and said that that's not a real thing.

00:26:40.000 I've seen it in person where I'll type somebody's name in, and usually it's supposed to come up on the searches, but it doesn't.

00:26:49.000 Well, shadow banning, if it is a real thing, that's another one.

00:26:54.000 Shadow banning for what?

00:26:56.000 If it's not something that is...

00:26:59.000 If you're not doing something that you could get kicked off the platform for, right?

00:27:03.000 You're not kicking them off.

00:27:04.000 You're just pushing them to some weird place.

00:27:06.000 But if you're doing that, why are you doing that?

00:27:08.000 What...

00:27:10.000 But what would be the justification?

00:27:12.000 From the ones that I have seen.

00:27:12.000 There used to even be a website that you could type in somebody's username to see if they were shadow banned.

00:27:16.000 So that's kind of interesting.

00:27:18.000 But a lot of porn stars are shadow banned.

00:27:21.000 Because they don't want, if you're looking up Christina Applegate, they don't want Christina Applebottom or something like that.

00:27:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:28.000 I still believe that's a thing, but I'm pretty sure he came out and said it wasn't a real thing.

00:27:34.000 Technically, shadow banning Justin Bieber from the trending topics, right?

00:27:37.000 They publicly said that.

00:27:38.000 That's not a shadow ban.

00:27:39.000 That's a strategy.

00:27:42.000 Well, no.

00:27:42.000 They were kind of forced into it because Justin Bieber was so...

00:27:45.000 His fans trend so hard. 0.52

00:27:47.000 They hashtagged the shit out of that thing and they just took over the trending.

00:27:51.000 It's probably happening for other equally popular celebrities, too, like Taylor Swift's and Beyonce's.

00:27:56.000 Kanye, yeah.

00:27:57.000 Yeah, you're probably right.

00:27:58.000 You're probably right.

00:27:59.000 So, whatever they're doing at YouTube with comments and whatever they're doing with Twitter, here's the real conversation, right?

00:28:06.000 The real conversation is, do we want that?

00:28:11.000 Do we want them to curate that?

00:28:15.000 Do we want them to decide whose YouTube videos you could subscribe to and who...

00:28:20.000 I mean, do they unsubscribe people?

00:28:22.000 Is that real or is that a glitch?

00:28:24.000 Yeah, who knows?

00:28:25.000 I don't think they unsubscribe you.

00:28:27.000 I don't think so either, but people have...

00:28:28.000 Well, let's listen.

00:28:30.000 If they're willing to move Justin Bieber from the number one trending, because he number one trends too hard, and they think it's ridiculous, not to just acknowledge that our culture, that there's certain humans in our culture are spending an exorbitant amount of time thinking about that beautiful man, right?

00:28:45.000 There's a lot.

00:28:46.000 But why do we want to lie and pretend that it's not as big?

00:28:49.000 So if they just, I'm not saying they shouldn't, but if they did that, just if they did that, you go, okay, are we through the looking glass now?

00:28:58.000 You can change the data?

00:29:00.000 When do you decide who gets pushed here, who gets pushed there?

00:29:05.000 When do you decide?

00:29:06.000 The trending page on YouTube is 100% controlled by a human.

00:29:11.000 I don't know if they've said that, but there are videos that should be there that aren't based off of the data you see.

00:29:18.000 YouTube's got some weird things going on with it.

00:29:21.000 The videos that they go, you might like type thing, they did a you might like to me a couple months ago where it was just videos of a guy towing cars in Dallas, like out of their parking lot.

00:29:34.000 And he made these funny, cute little videos with a little commentary using videos from the security cameras.

00:29:39.000 Anyways, I don't know why I liked it, but I started watching it.

00:29:42.000 And I was like, you know, this is interesting.

00:29:43.000 So I tweeted it out, like, random video I just got addicted to on YouTube.

00:29:48.000 Everybody, like, hundreds of people were like, I just started watching that.

00:29:52.000 YouTube recommended that to me.

00:29:53.000 Like, how did that happen?

00:29:54.000 You know, this little guy with a tow truck company is now pushed on everybody's laps.

00:29:59.000 And now he just went over 100,000 subscribers the other day.

00:30:03.000 And it was like months ago that he just had like 10. That's the argument some people have made.

00:30:08.000 That's how fast the Paul Brothers, they grew so fast on YouTube that some people thought there was something up.

00:30:14.000 They gained like millions of followers within a week or two of being on there.

00:30:17.000 And they were coming from another platform. 0.99

00:30:18.000 Well, it's also, coming from another platform is giant, but it's also, all it really takes is one person deciding that whatever the fuck you did was funny or weird or crazy. 0.98

00:30:28.000 Like that Cashew Outside girl. 0.95

00:30:31.000 Well, that girl's managed by the same people that own TMZ, and that's why you see it on TMZ every day. 0.99

00:30:37.000 Yeah, I was going to bring it up. 0.97

00:30:38.000 If you watch the Fyre Festival documentary, there's an explanation of the show how they spread the Fuck Jerry guys. 0.67

00:30:45.000 The marketing team spread that with that orange picture. 0.86

00:30:47.000 It was a coordinated event over hundreds of different social media accounts.

00:30:52.000 For her?

00:30:52.000 For the Catch Me Outside girl?

00:30:53.000 For the Fyre Festival, yeah.

00:30:56.000 Fyre Festival.

00:30:56.000 To catch everybody's...

00:30:57.000 Because there are a team of people.

00:30:59.000 There are agencies that have all these influencer accounts.

00:31:02.000 They pay them.

00:31:03.000 They don't have to accept the money or accept the offer, accept the campaign, but oftentimes they do.

00:31:09.000 So it's like a talent agency.

00:31:11.000 100%.

00:31:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:12.000 Interesting.

00:31:12.000 You need to share a new person.

00:31:13.000 You need to launch the next voice.

00:31:15.000 And it's like, oh, here's a new song.

00:31:17.000 Here's a new movie.

00:31:17.000 It's just a new way to spread stuff.

00:31:19.000 What the fuck, bro? 1.00

00:31:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:31:19.000 It's pretty cool watching how many people are unsubscribing to Fuck Jerry and the Fat Jew, though. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Yeah, but are they? 0.99

00:31:27.000 I looked at the other day, they have like 14 million.

00:31:29.000 They lost 500,000 in like a weekend.

00:31:32.000 Really?

00:31:32.000 That's a significant amount.

00:31:33.000 Last time I looked, it was 14.7, then it was 14.1.

00:31:37.000 I haven't looked today.

00:31:38.000 That's coming from, I think, a video someone shared this week.

00:31:41.000 I think Vic Berger made a video that got spread around.

00:31:44.000 They took his video, right?

00:31:46.000 Maybe, yeah.

00:31:47.000 I think that's what he said.

00:31:48.000 I think I saw it on Vic Berger's page.

00:31:50.000 There's a few comics that have posted videos like, hey, Fat Juice stole this, and I tried to reach out.

00:31:56.000 They never got back to me.

00:31:57.000 He got $10 million.

00:31:59.000 What do you think about this idea, though?

00:32:01.000 That's kind of piracy.

00:32:03.000 Yes.

00:32:04.000 And so Instagram's allowing and Twitter's allowing piracy?

00:32:08.000 Well, I think they're allowing these people to post videos because you don't really know where it came from.

00:32:15.000 There's no proof, right?

00:32:17.000 Like if you find a meme, like how many times you posted a meme?

00:32:19.000 I repost whoever sent it to me, if someone sends it to me.

00:32:23.000 But sometimes I'll just find it in a Google search and you've got to figure out who made that meme.

00:32:27.000 And if I find their Instagram account, then I'll try to find it and repost it.

00:32:31.000 But some people don't.

00:32:32.000 And I haven't in the past.

00:32:34.000 I did that one with Baked Alaska got mad at me because there was one with Alex Jones sitting in a hot tub.

00:32:40.000 And it's like when your friends are trying to chill, but you have to keep dropping truth bombs.

00:32:45.000 It was hilarious.

00:32:46.000 I didn't know it was his.

00:32:46.000 I just posted it because someone sent it to me.

00:32:48.000 Someone sent it to me in a text message, I think.

00:32:52.000 But those things have a creator, right?

00:32:55.000 And I know Eddie Bravo makes his own.

00:32:59.000 He makes some sometimes, but he'll send some to me or post some online that he finds that are funny too.

00:33:03.000 And everybody tries to credit the person who did it, right?

00:33:06.000 But now what they do is they take it and they credit the person, but they didn't for so long.

00:33:15.000 A lot of times they're crediting fake accounts, so they'll make a fake account.

00:33:18.000 They have fake accounts.

00:33:19.000 I've seen that, too.

00:33:20.000 So they're not getting busted in the way you were just explaining.

00:33:22.000 I've seen that, too.

00:33:23.000 Well, what is that about, though?

00:33:24.000 Because that seems like deception.

00:33:25.000 It's just a way around that backdooring, that qualification of it.

00:33:29.000 It needs to be on an account.

00:33:30.000 We need to point to somebody.

00:33:31.000 Okay, well, we'll point to this account we just said.

00:33:32.000 But it's not even a real account.

00:33:34.000 And if they find, like, they'll post stuff and then later add the person because the person contacts them.

00:33:40.000 And so they're almost like, that's admitting to piracy.

00:33:43.000 Well, is it though?

00:33:44.000 I mean, because if they just reposted it, a lot of folks, including me, do that.

00:33:49.000 Yeah, but they're making money.

00:33:50.000 Other people are not.

00:33:51.000 Yeah.

00:33:52.000 That's important.

00:33:54.000 I don't make any money off my Instagram.

00:33:56.000 Right.

00:33:56.000 They're making millions.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, I've been offered to post stuff up. 0.98

00:34:00.000 I'm not saying that I wouldn't if something was fucking killer and they wanted to give me money. 0.96

00:34:05.000 I'm greedy. 0.99

00:34:06.000 I'll take some money.

00:34:07.000 But I wouldn't lie about it.

00:34:09.000 And I haven't yet.

00:34:11.000 I've never accepted any money yet.

00:34:13.000 Yeah, because it's also, I think, in Instagram's, you know, law, that you have to put that it's an ad if you're making money off of it.

00:34:22.000 Yeah. 0.90

00:34:22.000 And so that's another thing that both Fuck Jerry and Fat Jew are not doing. 0.90

00:34:26.000 They're not putting an ad. 0.97

00:34:27.000 I just wanted, like, to devil's advocate this, though.

00:34:29.000 Is there a place for them, for those accounts?

00:34:32.000 Like, is there a place to be the retweeter of the memes, to be that guy, to be that account, you know?

00:34:38.000 Like, Isn't that valuable?

00:34:40.000 Yes.

00:34:40.000 It is a curator position.

00:34:42.000 Yeah, it's kind of valuable.

00:34:43.000 But the question is, if it is valuable and it becomes something, almost like redistributing your stand-up, if you're doing a set.

00:34:50.000 If stand-up sets were something that you could get everywhere and you could just repost it on your page, but then your page became super popular because you have all these people's stand-up sets, You know, like Spotify.

00:35:02.000 Spotify gets ads, right?

00:35:04.000 But they don't really...

00:35:05.000 They pay the artists a little bit, but mostly they make all the money.

00:35:08.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:35:09.000 If you say sorry later, you just do it and say, I'm sorry, I'm going to figure it out after the fact.

00:35:14.000 These are all business...

00:35:17.000 oriented things that have art in them as opposed to art oriented things that start making money.

00:35:24.000 They're two very different things.

00:35:25.000 So this is not an art thing.

00:35:27.000 This is they find other people's art and they sell it.

00:35:31.000 They're pushing it.

00:35:32.000 They create these accounts.

00:35:34.000 The accounts get giant.

00:35:35.000 People pass it around because they're just finding funny things and then they start profiting but all the people that created all the intellectual property get zero money which is weird.

00:35:46.000 I don't remember, but I only learned more about this when Exit to the Gift Shop came out.

00:35:51.000 Isn't that what Andy Warhol sort of did?

00:35:52.000 I don't know, and I don't care.

00:35:54.000 I mean, maybe he did.

00:35:55.000 Maybe he did.

00:35:56.000 But the thing about it is that this is happening right now on the internet.

00:36:00.000 It's a totally different animal.

00:36:02.000 I mean, Andy Warhol wasn't running around taking exact photo duplicates and putting them on his website for sale.

00:36:08.000 When someone's doing it on an Instagram page, you could, within seconds, take a piece and put it somewhere else.

00:36:16.000 It's seconds.

00:36:17.000 Brian posts something.

00:36:18.000 I think it's funny.

00:36:19.000 I go to copy. 0.99

00:36:21.000 I go to the fucking repost app. 0.97

00:36:24.000 I put it in there. 0.97

00:36:26.000 Repost it.

00:36:26.000 It's seconds later.

00:36:28.000 You could do that all day. 0.97

00:36:30.000 And if you hire kids, I don't know if he has people working for them, but if these guys do, they hire people for fucking 20 bucks an hour or whatever, and these people just do it all day long. 0.99

00:36:39.000 They just find funny shit all day long. 0.98

00:36:41.000 They look for certain hashtags. 0.99

00:36:43.000 Meme factories are what they're called. 0.85

00:36:45.000 And there's some people that have made some funny ones.

00:36:49.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 And you're making money off it.

00:37:08.000 How much are they making off each post?

00:37:09.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:37:10.000 But these are multi-million dollar businesses, right?

00:37:12.000 And the punchline.

00:37:13.000 So now you have this 10-minute joke that everyone knows the punchline because they saw it on Facebook.

00:37:17.000 That's like, spoiler alert.

00:37:19.000 Come on.

00:37:20.000 For sure, if you're still doing that material.

00:37:22.000 If it wasn't on Netflix or a Comedy Central special or something, for sure. 0.96

00:37:25.000 That sucks.

00:37:27.000 I guess it's always happened though, hasn't it? 0.97

00:37:29.000 TV shows have been accused of stealing.

00:37:32.000 Oh, they have stolen.

00:37:33.000 It's happened on...

00:37:34.000 Dude, they did it to Kevin James.

00:37:36.000 I saw it happen.

00:37:37.000 Kevin James was at the...

00:37:39.000 He had a development deal for NBC back in the Disney, back when we were young pups. 0.97

00:37:45.000 Both of us were like 27 or some shit. 0.96

00:37:48.000 Maybe he's a little older than that. 0.95

00:37:50.000 Actually, that was like during the news radio days.

00:37:53.000 We were probably like in our 30s.

00:37:55.000 And he had this development deal.

00:37:57.000 Nice development deal.

00:37:58.000 They were paying him a lot of cash.

00:38:01.000 A lot of paper.

00:38:02.000 And they were setting up a sitcom around him.

00:38:05.000 So they had him do a set at a theater in Hollywood.

00:38:08.000 And I was there.

00:38:09.000 And he does this set.

00:38:10.000 And there's all these writers from various sitcoms.

00:38:12.000 And the very next season, one of his best jokes is on an episode of a television show that's very popular.

00:38:23.000 Very popular.

00:38:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:38:27.000 And they fucking stole his bit, man. 0.98

00:38:29.000 I guess that's where I was going, because that was in the 90s, so we're now 20, 25 years later, the new popular medium is Instagram and social media. 0.99

00:38:37.000 How different is that?

00:38:39.000 Well, it's different because there's accountability now. 0.97

00:38:41.000 Because now people know that if you wrote a meme and you put it up on your site and then Fuck Jerry comes along and steals your shit and doesn't credit you for it, just puts it up there, you know what they did. 0.96

00:38:53.000 Unless someone sent it to them and didn't attribute it to you, which is possible, but... 0.96

00:38:59.000 It seems much more likely that what they're doing, they were doing on purpose for the longest time.

00:39:04.000 And they thought that's what you could do on the internet.

00:39:06.000 It's a wild west.

00:39:07.000 You could just take memes and you could become famous. 0.99

00:39:10.000 And look, that fat Jewish guy did it. 1.00

00:39:12.000 I mean, that guy became famous. 0.96

00:39:14.000 Whether you agree with his methods or not...

00:39:17.000 It worked.

00:39:18.000 He's got his crazy hair.

00:39:20.000 He shows you, you know, like he's this crazy looking guy and he has all these funny memes that somebody else wrote.

00:39:26.000 And they're all up on his Instagram page and it worked.

00:39:29.000 And people don't like him now.

00:39:31.000 There's a lot of people that don't like him.

00:39:32.000 People get real shitty with him in person.

00:39:34.000 They don't want him doing appearances. 0.84

00:39:36.000 They know what he did. 0.97

00:39:37.000 So there's a certain number of people that go, hey man, you're a thief. 0.90

00:39:41.000 Like this is not cool. 0.92

00:39:42.000 Like what you did is not cool.

00:39:44.000 But then there's certain people that don't care.

00:39:46.000 And then there's certain people that think, well, what he did was just what anybody did back then.

00:39:50.000 It was the Wild West.

00:39:52.000 No one thought about it.

00:39:53.000 And once he established that business model and it was effective, it was probably very hard for him to slow it down or to attribute things to people or to admit that he didn't do it for all that amount of time.

00:40:05.000 It just bugs me that companies pay these guys knowing that they do this.

00:40:09.000 Or as a fat Jew, he's signed with CAA, who's signed with a bunch of comedians that he probably took. 0.90

00:40:15.000 They're taken from the same basket. 0.93

00:40:17.000 It is weird, right?

00:40:19.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 Now, if he was going on stage and doing their acts...

00:40:23.000 He's been doing appearances, right?

00:40:24.000 He's got a book.

00:40:25.000 He's been on TV shows.

00:40:27.000 Well, I don't know what he's doing.

00:40:29.000 I don't know what he's doing.

00:40:30.000 I don't want to accuse him of that.

00:40:31.000 But look, he's obviously used it for profit.

00:40:34.000 He's figured out a way to profit.

00:40:35.000 It's weird. 1.00

00:40:36.000 He must be weirded out by this fuck Jerry thing, too. 0.99

00:40:39.000 Because he must be sitting there going, okay, I'm right here. 1.00

00:40:43.000 You guys going to leave me alone?

00:40:45.000 It's, you know... 0.98

00:40:49.000 Comedy Central was advertising on the Fuck Jerry page, which is like, Jesus, folks. 0.97

00:40:55.000 I didn't know that. 0.98

00:40:56.000 It was like, Jesus, folks.

00:40:58.000 Can I just sit you guys down?

00:41:01.000 Go over a little history of comedy?

00:41:03.000 Well, I mean, mind them and see it.

00:41:04.000 They didn't learn then, either.

00:41:06.000 Well, that was while it was happening, though.

00:41:08.000 They did learn eventually.

00:41:10.000 They let it go eventually, but that was also because the ratings had dropped through the floor. 0.95

00:41:15.000 You know, Comedy's not fucking easy to make up, you know?

00:41:20.000 Especially like meme kind of comedy that's done by folks that are working in offices. 0.97

00:41:25.000 Meme kind of comedy is some of the funniest fucking comedy on earth, and it's done by regular people. 0.54

00:41:30.000 It's not like a... 0.91

00:41:31.000 It's not like most memes are written by high-level satirists that work for The New Yorker. 0.98

00:41:39.000 No, they're fucking regular folks who think something's funny, you know? 0.85

00:41:44.000 I think what's going to happen is as technology improves, being able to scan a photo and go, well, we could tell the first time this was ever put on the internet was from this little girl. 0.97

00:41:53.000 She took a photo of it, has all the data in the picture, and it's now used on this meme that's making this much money, and this meme that's going to be kind of broken down like any kind of artist.

00:42:03.000 Yeah, I guess.

00:42:06.000 That's the argument for the blockchain getting involved in here.

00:42:10.000 I guess it can be in the data, in the bits.

00:42:13.000 Now let me ask you this.

00:42:14.000 What if someone uses a picture of your band?

00:42:18.000 Say you have a band.

00:42:19.000 They use a picture of your band and they have a funny meme under the picture of your band.

00:42:24.000 Who owns that then?

00:42:26.000 I think Beyonce tried to get that picture taken off the internet from her from the Super Bowl a couple years ago because it was a bad picture and she didn't like how she looked in it. 0.98

00:42:33.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

00:42:34.000 How the fuck does that lady take a bad picture? 1.00

00:42:38.000 Somebody needs to talk to her and go, listen, it's good. 1.00

00:42:41.000 It's not your best, but you look fucking great. 1.00

00:42:43.000 If that shit was on Tinder, you wouldn't be going... 0.99

00:42:48.000 If someone was paying for that meme, should Beyonce get some of the money? 1.00

00:42:53.000 That's the question you would have with a corporation, right?

00:42:56.000 Should someone be able to grab photos that are out in the public domain, make something with it, and then profit it?

00:43:04.000 There's been a lot of bans, I'm sure. 0.97

00:43:05.000 That's why I said bans, because they're really good at protecting copyright and their logo and shit. 0.96

00:43:10.000 If you had the KISS band logo, you don't think Gene Simmons would come at you? 0.98

00:43:14.000 He's coming at you with some lawyers, 100%.

00:43:16.000 That's just what he's going to do.

00:43:18.000 But who owns those photos if it's Gene Simmons spitting fire out and...

00:43:23.000 I think if you took the photo and the cameras were allowed inside the event, you took it.

00:43:28.000 Right, but it's not what the case is, though.

00:43:31.000 Most of the photographs are people that are just putting them up online and someone takes it. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Like, say if Gene Simmons spit in fire and it has a joke about eating a hooker's pussy or something. 1.00

00:43:42.000 Like... 1.00

00:43:42.000 Whatever it is. 1.00

00:43:44.000 Make something funny there.

00:43:45.000 If that's online, and that becomes this giant meme that gets all these likes, and that somehow or another... 0.97

00:43:52.000 How the fuck do you profit from...

00:43:55.000 From Instagram, you don't profit from individual posts, but those individual posts will boost your signal. 0.99

00:44:00.000 Yeah.

00:44:01.000 Some posts are profited.

00:44:03.000 Instagram?

00:44:03.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 You have to say ad on it.

00:44:05.000 Right.

00:44:06.000 You have to say sponsored post, right?

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 Well, legally it's supposed to, but I'd probably say 90% of them aren't like that.

00:44:14.000 Right.

00:44:14.000 A lot of people don't, right?

00:44:15.000 Especially if it's like you think you can get away with it.

00:44:18.000 Instagram models talking about tea.

00:44:19.000 Like, oh, this is the best tea.

00:44:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:22.000 The Instagram model is a fucking hilarious position. 0.98

00:44:26.000 It really is. 0.98

00:44:27.000 It's a powerful position.

00:44:29.000 Yeah.

00:44:29.000 It's hilarious, though.

00:44:31.000 It's just amazing how many of them there are.

00:44:33.000 And they make money.

00:44:34.000 You know, it's smart. 0.56

00:44:35.000 It's amazing how butts are such a big thing now.

00:44:38.000 Yeah. 0.88

00:44:39.000 And like, when I was a kid, no one cared about butts. 0.98

00:44:41.000 It was big butt. 1.00

00:44:42.000 You're like, ew, lose some weight. 0.98

00:44:44.000 Yeah, we talked about this before, I think.

00:44:46.000 I think you and I did.

00:44:47.000 It was where I said, Sir Mix-a-Lot changed the game.

00:44:50.000 Everybody's like, what? 0.97

00:44:51.000 Oh, you like big butts? 1.00

00:44:52.000 Hey, I kind of do too. 0.88

00:44:54.000 It's like, for whatever reason, it wasn't even an issue. 0.96

00:44:57.000 Back then, girls would have giant fake boobs and tiny flat butts, and they were perfect. 1.00

00:45:03.000 My grandmother would have millions of Instagram model hits. 1.00

00:45:07.000 Fat Bottom Girls was before that, slightly, but no one really didn't catch on, right? 0.55

00:45:11.000 You make the rockin' world go round. 0.99

00:45:12.000 That's a great goddamn song. 0.99

00:45:14.000 I didn't see Bohemian Rhapsody. 0.99

00:45:16.000 Did you?

00:45:16.000 Did you see it?

00:45:17.000 I heard it wasn't that good. 1.00

00:45:19.000 What the fuck are you guys talking about? 0.99

00:45:21.000 I heard it was amazing. 1.00

00:45:22.000 Did you?

00:45:22.000 Yeah, I did.

00:45:23.000 I'm a giant Queen fan, though.

00:45:24.000 I love them.

00:45:26.000 That's my number one cryogenic song when I'm in the cryo chamber is Dragon Attack.

00:45:32.000 Because you've got to move around when you're in that 240 degrees below zero.

00:45:36.000 It's hard to just sit still.

00:45:38.000 Do a little dancing in there.

00:45:40.000 I'd read he did a Rami Malek, I think is the actor's name that played him, Freddie Mercury.

00:45:45.000 He did a really good job.

00:45:47.000 Before it happened, Sacha Baron Cohen was sort of in talks for it, but he wanted to take the character in a different direction that no one was really comfortable with.

00:45:55.000 See, I would have rather seen that.

00:45:57.000 No, man, what would he have done?

00:45:59.000 What does that mean?

00:46:01.000 I don't know.

00:46:01.000 See, that's a weird thing, man.

00:46:02.000 You can't...

00:46:03.000 It could have just been said, too, to get spicy talk.

00:46:06.000 But you can't just add stuff.

00:46:08.000 My wife! 1.00

00:46:09.000 Yeah, you can't just...

00:46:11.000 It's not an art piece.

00:46:13.000 Like, Bohemian Rhapsody, although it is an art piece, it's a documentary of a guy's life.

00:46:18.000 In some ways, you're documenting it, right?

00:46:22.000 It's supposed to be his life.

00:46:23.000 You can't make up things that never really happened.

00:46:26.000 I forget what movie, but it's the difference between a biopic and an actual biography or a documentary.

00:46:32.000 Well, what is the difference?

00:46:34.000 You're making a Hollywood movie versus...

00:46:35.000 Right.

00:46:35.000 But what is the difference in terms of the story?

00:46:37.000 Creative.

00:46:38.000 I think creative control.

00:46:39.000 Like being creative.

00:46:40.000 We know this event happened and this event happened the day before and in the middle, what would happen?

00:46:45.000 Where one is knowing only the facts.

00:46:48.000 It's just screwy.

00:46:48.000 It's screwy to do.

00:46:49.000 The Foxcatcher versus a documentary about Mark Schultz.

00:46:51.000 Yes.

00:46:51.000 There are parts in there that you specifically know...

00:46:54.000 Yes. 0.98

00:46:54.000 We're fucked with for artistic sake. 0.98

00:46:58.000 Well, not just the parts that I know, but I didn't even talk to Mark about the movie. 0.99

00:47:02.000 But there was a bunch of parts that I think he was furious about where it made it look like they were doing blow and maybe doing some gay stuff.

00:47:09.000 There was a lot of weird scenes that things were implied or just seemed odd.

00:47:14.000 Like, how do you know this happened unless Mark told you?

00:47:17.000 And Mark was furious at the end.

00:47:20.000 After it was released.

00:47:21.000 And then on top of that, the big one was that they changed his opponent when he fought in the UFC. They gave him a Russian guy when he in fact fought Big Daddy Goodrich, who's a legend.

00:47:33.000 Big Daddy Goodrich is an MMA legend.

00:47:35.000 He was a pioneer.

00:47:36.000 He was in the early UFCs.

00:47:38.000 The giant yoked black dude with the gi. 1.00

00:47:41.000 I mean, he would fight with the gi on.

00:47:43.000 He has one of the most brutal knockouts in the history of the sport where he fought this wrestler, Paul Herrera, and Paul took him down and they got into a position where Big Daddy Goodrich was lying on him sideways and he elbowed him in the face like...

00:48:01.000 Ten times in the course of like three seconds.

00:48:04.000 And it's so horrific.

00:48:05.000 You're watching his head just bounce off before they stop the fight. 0.99

00:48:09.000 It's fucking brutal. 0.99

00:48:11.000 Like one of the most brutal KOs you'll ever see in your life. 0.99

00:48:14.000 So this guy...

00:48:17.000 Wasn't just a regular guy like you just substitute him out and make the guy's name Tom instead of Bob.

00:48:22.000 No, it was Big Daddy Goodrich.

00:48:24.000 That's who Mark Schultz fought when he fought in the UFC. Watch this.

00:48:28.000 Watch this.

00:48:29.000 Boom, boom, [... 0.99

00:48:32.000 I mean, that guy is fucking out. 0.99

00:48:36.000 And his arms are trapped and his legs are trapped. 0.99

00:48:38.000 Big Daddy's got him in like a crucifix position.

00:48:43.000 And it's from Paul trying to take him down.

00:48:46.000 I mean, that was...

00:48:47.000 So that guy, Big Daddy Goodrich, he's a famous fighter.

00:48:52.000 It's not like they took some nobody and removed him from the movie and changed the name of someone where it didn't really matter.

00:48:59.000 It was a historical event in MMA. That's the reason, you think?

00:49:04.000 No one knows? 0.96

00:49:05.000 Some crazy producer. 0.99

00:49:06.000 I think you should fight a Russian guy because this is... 1.00

00:49:09.000 We're in the Cold War again, baby. 0.57

00:49:11.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:49:11.000 Fuck Putin. 1.00

00:49:12.000 I don't know how you feel about politics. 1.00

00:49:14.000 You know, some producer just wanted to jizz on the soup. 1.00

00:49:17.000 Some writer just wanted to cup his own balls and squirt one off into the fucking stew. 1.00

00:49:22.000 That's probably what happened. 1.00

00:49:23.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:49:24.000 The screenplay to make it watch better, who knows.

00:49:26.000 The only other thing that makes sense is maybe they would have had to pay Daddy Goodrich.

00:49:30.000 Right.

00:49:30.000 And they didn't want to pay him.

00:49:32.000 Maybe.

00:49:33.000 I don't know.

00:49:34.000 That makes sense.

00:49:35.000 I mean, like Mike Tyson, you know...

00:49:37.000 He had that video game a long time ago with Nintendo, and they had to pay him to use Mike Tyson's Punch-Out.

00:49:44.000 And then after a couple years, he was like, I'm done with this.

00:49:48.000 So then it was just called Punch-Out.

00:49:50.000 It wasn't even Mike Tyson in the game anymore.

00:49:51.000 They had to take it off.

00:49:53.000 Some new dude.

00:49:53.000 Yeah.

00:49:55.000 Have you done the VR boxing game yet?

00:49:57.000 I haven't done the VR boxing game, but it looks cool.

00:50:00.000 Like the Rocky one, is that what it is?

00:50:02.000 There's a whole bunch of them.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them.

00:50:03.000 Dude, they're amazing.

00:50:05.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 It's great.

00:50:06.000 Like a regular boxing game you're playing on TV is so stupid. 0.88

00:50:09.000 I mean, they're fun, but in comparison to a VR game, in a VR game, you're boxing. 0.97

00:50:14.000 You see your hands in front of you.

00:50:16.000 The guy's throwing jabs.

00:50:17.000 You're slipping.

00:50:18.000 You're standing in front of him.

00:50:20.000 You can catch punches with your hands. 0.99

00:50:21.000 You can throw shots to the body. 0.81

00:50:23.000 It's crazy. 0.94

00:50:23.000 You get tired doing it. 0.94

00:50:25.000 You could really get a workout doing it.

00:50:27.000 It's amazing.

00:50:28.000 This is it right here.

00:50:29.000 This is what you would see.

00:50:30.000 This is the new Rocky one.

00:50:31.000 They just updated it.

00:50:32.000 Oh, Jesus!

00:50:33.000 Oh! 0.60

00:50:33.000 Clubber Lang! 0.60

00:50:34.000 Mr. T is in it.

00:50:35.000 Or is it just random guy with mohawk?

00:50:37.000 Well, that's Clubber Lang.

00:50:38.000 But look how jacked everybody is.

00:50:41.000 Can you imagine if people were really that jacked?

00:50:42.000 Wow.

00:50:45.000 I mean, this is...

00:50:46.000 So what is that?

00:50:47.000 Drago?

00:50:48.000 And he's fighting.

00:50:49.000 There's Drago versus Rocky.

00:50:50.000 Yeah, but we can't see...

00:50:51.000 You want to see what it looks like from your eyes.

00:50:53.000 And this is a...

00:50:55.000 That's a regular video game?

00:50:57.000 Or that is a virtual reality?

00:50:59.000 That's the VR game.

00:50:59.000 This is just the teaser they showed, I guess.

00:51:01.000 I was looking for the updated...

00:51:02.000 Yeah, you want to see what it looks like when you've got those gloves in front of you.

00:51:06.000 Have you tried VR Pool yet?

00:51:07.000 No.

00:51:08.000 No.

00:51:10.000 I like regular pool.

00:51:11.000 VR is so great.

00:51:13.000 I love it.

00:51:13.000 I just need to get it out of my living room.

00:51:16.000 It's just too much for my living room.

00:51:18.000 There's things you couldn't do with VR pool that you need to understand if you're actually playing pool.

00:51:23.000 With real pool, you need friction.

00:51:25.000 Wow, this looks great.

00:51:27.000 It's crazy.

00:51:28.000 Look how good it looks.

00:51:29.000 A little bit of haptic feedback for this to get maybe the next step.

00:51:33.000 Look how he's using his hands to block, too.

00:51:37.000 It's crazy.

00:51:37.000 The thing is, man, when someone's swinging on you, when this fake person in front of you is swinging on you, it's nerve-wracking.

00:51:44.000 You think you're going to get hit, and when you do get hit, and you see red, or you see white, rather, look, you just KO'd him.

00:51:51.000 It's funny watching the guy.

00:51:52.000 It's pretty amazing how VR really gets immersive.

00:51:55.000 Like the Resident Evil video game? 0.97

00:51:58.000 I mean, that's scary as fuck. 0.98

00:52:00.000 You really think zombies are coming after you. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Yeah, you really do.

00:52:03.000 You know, that game, the thing about that game, though, this boxing thing does not necessarily reward perfect technique.

00:52:10.000 You could kind of just do this.

00:52:14.000 If you wanted to use it as a workout, you'd have to actually be disciplined and use good technique.

00:52:19.000 What you'd probably do is put gloves on. 0.99

00:52:21.000 Put some Velcro gloves on and put the little fucking hand thing in the glove. 1.00

00:52:27.000 Probably close to there, but in the next year or two. 0.99

00:52:29.000 You could just duct tape it.

00:52:30.000 A year or two, it'll be in the glove itself.

00:52:33.000 I think it's called the Knuckle Controller.

00:52:36.000 It's the next version of the Vive Controller.

00:52:37.000 It fits around your hand like a glove.

00:52:39.000 It just goes around your knuckles.

00:52:41.000 You don't have to grab in the same way.

00:52:45.000 When you have your hands this way, like with Thumbs Up, Thumbs Up shows the gloves like this on the screen for some strange reason.

00:52:55.000 So when you're throwing punches, it doesn't look right.

00:52:58.000 They need to change that.

00:53:01.000 It's like they want you to just do this.

00:53:03.000 But that's freaking me out.

00:53:05.000 Yeah.

00:53:06.000 But when you're actually doing it, though, if it looked like your hands in the same position as your hands, it would be a worthwhile way to learn.

00:53:13.000 A guy like Freddie Roach could literally do a game where he showed you, all right, I want to see the jab, pop!

00:53:19.000 And they're like, right here, right here, right, pop!

00:53:20.000 And then here comes the hook, duck under, and then go to the body, go to the head.

00:53:24.000 And you could do that and do drills with a guy, and actually you could pick up real skills in a VR game, especially with boxing.

00:53:32.000 Boxing particularly.

00:53:35.000 Kickboxing maybe a little less because you're moving your legs.

00:53:38.000 You're not just moving your hands.

00:53:40.000 Like you'd have to have some sort of sensors on your legs so I could know what you're doing to make sure you're not showing bad technique.

00:53:45.000 Like your knee might be down or you might be doing something funky.

00:53:48.000 But if you have boxing, those two things are just like gloves.

00:53:53.000 All you need to learn is all the other things.

00:53:55.000 You need to learn how to punch and how to move around.

00:53:57.000 But you can effectively, with just holding on to those things, you're staying in the same position that you would be if you were really boxing.

00:54:05.000 And you can move around the ring, too.

00:54:07.000 It's an area like the size of this desk, maybe a little bit more.

00:54:11.000 So it's not like you're in one place and you don't have footwork.

00:54:13.000 You could actually develop footwork, too.

00:54:15.000 So they could have Vasily Lomachenko doing footwork drills, where you would learn on a virtual reality thing where to step. 0.98

00:54:23.000 That'd be fucking badass. 0.99

00:54:25.000 All that stuff, you could learn some shit from those things. 0.99

00:54:28.000 I like how the VR is going... 0.97

00:54:31.000 There's an amusement park...

00:54:34.000 Buildings now, kind of like Chuck E. Cheese where it's just VR rides now, where you're parachuting or you're on a roller coaster and stuff.

00:54:41.000 I like how they're doing that now a lot.

00:54:43.000 A lot of malls have that now.

00:54:44.000 Yeah, yeah, I've done those.

00:54:46.000 I've done the little spaceship ones too, where you roll a dune buggy around on the surface of the moon.

00:54:50.000 Have you done the Star Wars one in Vegas yet?

00:54:52.000 I guess you actually have like five people in your group that you can see in the game and there's like, you know, have you played?

00:54:59.000 They have at the Glendale Galleria.

00:55:01.000 They do?

00:55:01.000 Yeah.

00:55:02.000 Dude, the dopest one they have is at the Disneyland Village.

00:55:07.000 But the Disneyland Village one, there's a Star Wars one, and then there's also a Wreck-It Ralph one. 0.97

00:55:13.000 The Wreck-It Ralph one is fucking amazing.

00:55:16.000 Is it the same company? 0.95

00:55:17.000 Yeah, The Void is what it's called.

00:55:18.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:55:19.000 Same place.

00:55:20.000 So they have the Star Wars one sometime, so they'll have one game set up for a couple of weeks, and then they'll have the other game.

00:55:27.000 Dude, we went to Disneyland, and that was the dopest thing at Disneyland.

00:55:30.000 Really?

00:55:30.000 Yes, by far.

00:55:31.000 It's the future. 0.99

00:55:32.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.97

00:55:33.000 Dude, you wear this suit, okay? 0.99

00:55:36.000 So you have this vest on, so you're feeling when you get hit.

00:55:39.000 You feel it in your chest.

00:55:40.000 You feel heat.

00:55:41.000 They have places where you walk through, and it's like lava below you.

00:55:45.000 You feel heat.

00:55:46.000 No way.

00:55:46.000 The Star Wars one, when you're getting shot, you feel it in your chest.

00:55:49.000 No shit. 0.99

00:55:50.000 You pick a gun up off the wall and you've got like stormtrooper arms. 1.00

00:55:53.000 You see you're holding the gun in front of you.

00:55:55.000 It's crazy.

00:55:56.000 That's awesome.

00:55:56.000 I didn't know that it was in Glendale.

00:55:58.000 Dude, they're getting so good.

00:56:00.000 You still are super aware that you're in a game.

00:56:03.000 Right.

00:56:03.000 For now.

00:56:04.000 But this, you know, go from Pong... 0.99

00:56:06.000 To fucking... 0.99

00:56:07.000 What's the best? 0.99

00:56:09.000 Red Dead Redemption?

00:56:10.000 That's probably the best graphics. 0.99

00:56:11.000 I mean, fucking insane graphics. 0.99

00:56:13.000 That's... 0.99

00:56:14.000 What is that?

00:56:14.000 30 years?

00:56:15.000 30 years they went to that.

00:56:17.000 These virtual reality games, 10 years from now, are going to be insane.

00:56:22.000 No one's going to want to be in regular life.

00:56:24.000 Regular life's going to suck.

00:56:26.000 Yeah, there's not going to be a Disneyland or a Disney World anymore.

00:56:28.000 It's just going to be VR. It'll still be there, but you'll be able to get on every ride.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 I haven't watched this myself yet, but the NBA makes viewing and VR available now.

00:56:40.000 Whoa, the whole game?

00:56:41.000 It's not every game, but it's like once a week.

00:56:43.000 They have a particular game you can log in and watch.

00:56:47.000 They changed the cameras a little bit.

00:56:49.000 I don't think it's perfect yet.

00:56:51.000 It's very cool, though.

00:56:53.000 Dude, how about watching this on the floor?

00:56:55.000 Yeah.

00:56:55.000 You're on the floor.

00:56:56.000 They'll move you around so you can see you're in the footage, too.

00:56:59.000 I think they have a separate announcing team, so they're talking about what you're seeing versus listening to the normal TV. Oh, wow.

00:57:06.000 It's quite not there yet.

00:57:07.000 We filmed a couple episodes of Kill Tony in VR, and we had some of the top-of-the-line cameras for it, and it still wasn't there yet.

00:57:14.000 It was more hassle than it was worth.

00:57:16.000 This seems like something that would be fucking amazing for the UFC though. 0.67

00:57:21.000 Oh yeah.

00:57:22.000 I mean, this would be amazing.

00:57:23.000 Yeah, you basically have your view.

00:57:25.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 Except the cage.

00:57:27.000 The cage would be in the way, but there's got to be a way that they could film through the cage.

00:57:31.000 If they just had a camera in a reinforced position where it was far enough back behind foam that there's no way it could interfere if someone crashed into it, but yet close enough that it could see through an actual hole...

00:57:48.000 You could get the entire octagon if you did it with several different ones of those.

00:57:53.000 They had it at least.

00:57:56.000 This isn't it, I guess.

00:57:57.000 It was a ground level.

00:57:57.000 I think they called it the Phantom Cam, but maybe it had a different name.

00:58:00.000 And it was VR? It wasn't VR, no.

00:58:02.000 The UFCs use it a few times.

00:58:04.000 They always try out things.

00:58:05.000 They're very experimental.

00:58:06.000 They don't always show everything they're trying out, though.

00:58:08.000 The problem with it...

00:58:10.000 Ideally, you'd want it right in the middle, not above or too below, because it has cameras all around it.

00:58:24.000 That's hard to do with the cameras, I guess, without getting in the way of everything.

00:58:31.000 Yeah, you'd have to find a good spot for it.

00:58:36.000 Put it on Bruce Buffer's head and let him just go to town?

00:58:39.000 Well, they used to do that with Pride.

00:58:41.000 Pride used to have, like, they would wear glasses with, like, cameras next to the glasses and you'd get the referee vision.

00:58:47.000 Yeah.

00:58:47.000 It was crazy.

00:58:48.000 That's kind of cool.

00:58:49.000 Separating fighters and breaking it up and waving the fight off.

00:58:53.000 Yeah.

00:58:53.000 That's kind of cool.

00:58:54.000 Yeah, it's pretty badass.

00:58:56.000 Yeah.

00:58:56.000 It's weird.

00:58:57.000 Here it is.

00:58:58.000 I guess it's this little teeny Marshall cam is what it's called.

00:59:01.000 POV cam. 1.00

00:59:02.000 That shit's pointed at me, man. 1.00

00:59:05.000 Sometimes. 1.00

00:59:06.000 Yeah, there's one like that that's pointed at me.

00:59:08.000 Yeah, I guess you're right.

00:59:09.000 I have seen that there.

00:59:09.000 Yeah, they use that sometimes when we go crazy, when we jump up, a fight's happening.

00:59:16.000 I didn't know that's what they did it for until one day I saw it online.

00:59:21.000 I go, oh, that makes sense.

00:59:22.000 That's a smart thing to do because sometimes we do get animated.

00:59:26.000 There's been several fights where me, Anik, and DC or Dominic Cruz, we're all standing up.

00:59:31.000 Like Amanda Nunes. 0.99

00:59:33.000 When Amanda Nunes knocked out Chris Iborg, we were like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:59:39.000 Your whole body's like, Jesus! 1.00

00:59:42.000 What the fuck did I just see? 0.99

00:59:44.000 Sometimes you just can't sit down. 1.00

00:59:46.000 Your body's just like, God damn it! 0.99

00:59:49.000 It just goes. 1.00

00:59:51.000 You're not even trying to control it.

00:59:53.000 You just let it go. 0.97

00:59:54.000 When you see somebody do something fucking insane, like there's some wild, crazy, Francis Ngannou knocking out Alistair Overeem type punch, yeah. 0.97

01:00:07.000 Yeah, it's me and Dominic and John Anik and Anik's up and I'm leaning back. 0.97

01:00:12.000 It's a crazy job, man.

01:00:14.000 It's a crazy job.

01:00:15.000 So that was the moment.

01:00:18.000 And you see the one below it?

01:00:19.000 See that?

01:00:20.000 Go back to that.

01:00:22.000 See that one below it where I'm staring at the camera in the upper right?

01:00:25.000 No, that one there?

01:00:27.000 That was a video taken by John Wayne Parr.

01:00:31.000 John Wayne Parr, who's a multiple-time world Muay Thai champion and a friend of mine, a great guy who lives in Australia, was there at the fights in Australia when Holly Holm knocked out Ronda Rousey. 0.97

01:00:41.000 And he filmed Holly Holm head-kicking Ronda Rousey and then turns to me and I turn to him and I was like, what the fuck just happened? 0.96

01:00:51.000 I was like, whoa. 0.99

01:00:54.000 Whoa. 0.89

01:00:55.000 But when you see it in that moment, when you see something that's that fucking nuts in that moment, you're like, I can't even believe what I saw. 0.92

01:01:04.000 That was me.

01:01:05.000 I looked at him and he looked at me and we're like, whoa, dude.

01:01:10.000 That was crazy.

01:01:12.000 There's no sport like that.

01:01:15.000 Some sports just...

01:01:17.000 You know, they just have this moment where everybody gets a jolt of a drug.

01:01:25.000 You know, everybody just gets this...

01:01:27.000 You mean that didn't happen last night at the Super Bowl for you?

01:01:31.000 I left before it ended.

01:01:33.000 I was at a friend's party.

01:01:34.000 I went to a Super Bowl party.

01:01:35.000 It was fun.

01:01:36.000 The lowest feud won in the last 10 years.

01:01:39.000 Are you serious?

01:01:39.000 But not by a lot, but yeah.

01:01:41.000 It's because they knew that that handsome man was going to take his shirt off.

01:01:44.000 What's his name?

01:01:45.000 Adam Levine.

01:01:46.000 This beautiful man. 0.99

01:01:46.000 He doesn't have nipples? 0.99

01:01:49.000 No, he has nice brown nipples, but then you're like, Janet Jackson, that went crazy. 0.99

01:01:55.000 Why is he allowed to show his nipples? 0.99

01:01:56.000 He showed both. 1.00

01:01:57.000 This is bullshit. 1.00

01:01:58.000 Sex is bullshit. 1.00

01:01:59.000 And his dick root. 1.00

01:02:00.000 Oh my god, he had dick root showing? 1.00

01:02:03.000 That is bullshit. 1.00

01:02:04.000 He just wanted everybody to know he's got beautiful tattoos. 1.00

01:02:07.000 And a fairly good body.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:10.000 Doesn't look like he does a lot of squats though, right?

01:02:12.000 That's what's interesting.

01:02:13.000 He's around like the greatest super athletes in the known universe.

01:02:18.000 Actually, he looks pretty good right there.

01:02:19.000 For today, he was.

01:02:21.000 He looks pretty good.

01:02:23.000 Maybe for today, he was.

01:02:24.000 I mean, he's not always around the greatest super athletes.

01:02:26.000 Right.

01:02:27.000 No, no.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, he looks pretty good.

01:02:30.000 He looks like he's in good shape.

01:02:31.000 Happy to take his shirt off with his California stomach tattoo.

01:02:35.000 But the point being, that guy's around freaks! 1.00

01:02:39.000 He's around 6'5", 290-pound super athletes who could jump over his fucking head. 0.99

01:02:46.000 They literally could run through a hundred of him like they were paper walls. 1.00

01:02:51.000 Just...

01:02:53.000 That's what he's around. 1.00

01:02:54.000 He's around the fucking Super Bowl! 1.00

01:02:57.000 The greatest physical specimens in the known universe! 1.00

01:03:02.000 And he takes his shirt off. 0.98

01:03:03.000 Like, hey bitches, I'm here too. 1.00

01:03:05.000 They had an event set up over the weekend so people could test their 40 speed up against other NFL times or whatever. 0.98

01:03:12.000 They had like a list.

01:03:13.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:03:13.000 Usain Bolt did it in his shoes.

01:03:15.000 They said street shoes or whatever, but he didn't have cleats on.

01:03:18.000 He tied the fastest ever NFL 40. Yeah, he probably did it with a full stomach.

01:03:23.000 He probably just ate, drank a couple of beers. 1.00

01:03:25.000 Fuck it, I'll show these bitches what's up. 1.00

01:03:30.000 Yeah, it's just, it was weird, like, watching on TV, this dude with his shirt off, you know? 1.00

01:03:34.000 Like, oh, this is a different thing now.

01:03:36.000 Now this is like a sexy concert.

01:03:38.000 Yeah.

01:03:38.000 Before it was like a football game.

01:03:39.000 That's what I think he's getting shit for, because he didn't need to take his shirt off, right? 0.97

01:03:43.000 You know, he had his shirt on, and then, like, after the second song, he's like, you know what? 0.99

01:03:47.000 Let's get sexy in the Super Bowl, you know?

01:03:49.000 Did he say that?

01:03:49.000 No, no, but I mean, why else would he take off his shirt?

01:03:52.000 I mean...

01:03:53.000 At least we should make a hashtag.

01:03:54.000 Hashtag sexy in the Super Bowl. 1.00

01:03:56.000 Let's get sexy up in this bitch. 1.00

01:03:58.000 Oh! 1.00

01:04:00.000 Well, he's a sexy man.

01:04:01.000 Don't be hating.

01:04:02.000 Beautiful man.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, I mean, but that's the whole thing.

01:04:05.000 Your audience is a bunch of guys, you know?

01:04:09.000 Started with a jacket on.

01:04:10.000 Started with a jacket on.

01:04:11.000 Well, it was cold out at first, but then you started to warm up a sweat.

01:04:13.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:04:14.000 Never trust white men with necklaces. 0.99

01:04:16.000 That's my message. 0.97

01:04:18.000 More than one?

01:04:18.000 No, he's got the little necklaces and the bracelets for the falcons to land on.

01:04:23.000 Oh, wait a minute.

01:04:23.000 Those are spiritual necklaces.

01:04:25.000 If you have wooden beads, for whatever reason, that makes you spiritual.

01:04:28.000 Is it hemp or gold?

01:04:29.000 I can't even tell.

01:04:29.000 You're allowed to wear wooden necklaces because people go, oh, you're really into organic stuff.

01:04:35.000 You're really into macro.

01:04:36.000 But that's gold.

01:04:38.000 That looks like gold.

01:04:40.000 The other one was just weird lighting.

01:04:42.000 I can't wear necklaces, man.

01:04:44.000 It bugs me.

01:04:45.000 Did you ever wear necklaces?

01:04:46.000 I've worn necklaces, sure.

01:04:48.000 It's never been a staple.

01:04:50.000 But it's a weird thing.

01:04:53.000 First of all, if it's big enough, it's like this Target.

01:04:56.000 If you have a big old gold necklace, people want to steal it.

01:05:00.000 There's a lot of necklace snatchers out there, Brian.

01:05:02.000 I don't know if you know that.

01:05:04.000 But then the other thing is, what are you doing?

01:05:08.000 What are you doing with that big old shiny thing around your neck?

01:05:10.000 What are you doing?

01:05:10.000 What are you, a chick?

01:05:11.000 I remember in the 90s, chokers wear a thing, and I used to wear a choker. 0.71

01:05:15.000 How gross is that?

01:05:16.000 Like a dog choker?

01:05:17.000 Just a really tight necklace.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 Hemp necklaces.

01:05:22.000 Oh yeah, those with the little bead.

01:05:24.000 Yeah.

01:05:24.000 The bead at the bottom.

01:05:25.000 The bead's critical.

01:05:26.000 Gotta have the bead.

01:05:27.000 Yeah.

01:05:28.000 Multi-colored bead.

01:05:30.000 Make it look really cool.

01:05:31.000 Yeah, like, it's weird, like, some guys will wear, like, little anklets with, like, beads, and they tie them off, and they'll walk around barefoot, and you're like, okay, hmm.

01:05:42.000 Well, it's kind of like that look, that Shob look, where you have, like, the really tight, like, your pants go up so you can see your socks, you know, you show a little leg. 1.00

01:05:51.000 You know why they do that?

01:05:52.000 Why?

01:05:52.000 Sneakers.

01:05:53.000 Oh, they show off the sneakers?

01:05:55.000 Yep, full sneakers.

01:05:56.000 That's what Shob told me.

01:05:57.000 Do you do that, Jeremy?

01:05:58.000 Yeah, that's what my pants have that actually for. 0.99

01:06:00.000 Oh my god, you do!

01:06:02.000 Why?

01:06:03.000 That's how the pants are made.

01:06:05.000 Ah, that's funny.

01:06:06.000 That's how the pants are made?

01:06:07.000 Yeah, they're made.

01:06:07.000 That's why you don't buy those pants, man.

01:06:09.000 Then you're not buying pants in the last four years.

01:06:11.000 Where do you buy your pants?

01:06:11.000 What lady store do you buy?

01:06:13.000 Do you buy it at Coach?

01:06:14.000 Do you buy those pants at Nike.com?

01:06:15.000 Oh gosh.

01:06:16.000 That's hilarious.

01:06:17.000 You don't do that, do you?

01:06:18.000 No, how dare you?

01:06:20.000 How dare you?

01:06:21.000 I have a pair of very comfortable Under Armour running shoes on.

01:06:24.000 How are those?

01:06:25.000 Your new shoes the other day?

01:06:27.000 They're a little too tight for me.

01:06:29.000 They bind my feet a tad bit.

01:06:32.000 When I got to the store, I had to swap them out.

01:06:34.000 I had a pair of Converse All-Stars, which are my go-to.

01:06:37.000 You got Yeezys, right? 0.92

01:06:39.000 Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys about a year ago.

01:06:41.000 And you just wore them.

01:06:42.000 You just undeadsocked them.

01:06:44.000 You're just keeping them on ice for a while.

01:06:45.000 Undeadsocked them.

01:06:46.000 Is that what it's called?

01:06:46.000 Deadstock.

01:06:47.000 Deadstock.

01:06:48.000 Deadstock.

01:06:48.000 Oh, do you know what dead naming is?

01:06:50.000 Do you know what dead naming is?

01:06:51.000 Is that a shoe thing?

01:06:52.000 No.

01:06:53.000 It's a new thing that's illegal on Twitter.

01:06:55.000 This is something I wish I knew.

01:06:56.000 I didn't know until after the podcast, but deadnaming is banned.

01:07:03.000 So say if you decide tomorrow to become a woman, and you're like, I'm no longer Brian, I'm Brianina.

01:07:08.000 Brianna.

01:07:09.000 Brianna?

01:07:10.000 Have you thought this through?

01:07:12.000 Of course.

01:07:12.000 Okay.

01:07:13.000 So I'd be like, okay, Brianna, but you're still a man.

01:07:16.000 And then boom, that's deadnaming.

01:07:18.000 You can't...

01:07:20.000 Call someone something other than their preferred gender. 0.83

01:07:25.000 So, like, if they identify as a woman, but they're biologically male, you're not allowed to say they're biologically male.

01:07:34.000 Wow.

01:07:35.000 You're not allowed to call them a man because that's dead naming.

01:07:39.000 You're not allowed to call them, like, you couldn't call Caitlyn Jenner Bruce.

01:07:42.000 If you called her Bruce, you would be dead naming her.

01:07:46.000 But that's just, like...

01:07:48.000 That's not illegal.

01:07:50.000 It's banned from Twitter.

01:07:51.000 It's a Twitter rule thing.

01:07:54.000 Please pull that up. 0.98

01:07:55.000 I did not know this.

01:07:56.000 I did not know this.

01:07:57.000 I searched it.

01:07:58.000 It's been around for a while, but I'm checking the Twitter thing.

01:08:00.000 That's kind of weird.

01:08:00.000 Deadnaming has been banned for a while?

01:08:02.000 No, no, the term has been around.

01:08:03.000 I just found out about the term maybe a couple weeks ago.

01:08:08.000 I'd heard the term for the first time.

01:08:10.000 Somebody wrote deadnaming.

01:08:12.000 And I was like, what is that?

01:08:14.000 And then I had to look it up. 0.98

01:08:15.000 So ridiculous. 0.86

01:08:15.000 All the new rules we have to deal with. 0.86

01:08:18.000 Dude, there's a fucking article. 0.99

01:08:19.000 There's an article that I was reading. 1.00

01:08:21.000 Go ahead.

01:08:21.000 I'm looking right at their terms of service.

01:08:23.000 It's directly word for word in there.

01:08:25.000 Okay, where does it say that?

01:08:27.000 Okay.

01:08:29.000 Deadnaming of transgender individuals. 0.68

01:08:32.000 Repeated or non-consensual slurs, epithets, racist and sexist tropes, Or other content that degrades someone?

01:08:42.000 Okay.

01:08:43.000 Well, hold on a second.

01:08:45.000 Like, what does degrade someone? 0.99

01:08:47.000 So if you contact me and say, hey, bro, you're fucking short, you're not funny, that's degrading. 0.99

01:08:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:55.000 Like, is that not allowed?

01:08:57.000 That's crazy.

01:08:58.000 You have to have that be allowed.

01:09:01.000 Targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes, or other content that tends to dehumanize, degrade, or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category.

01:09:12.000 See, that's where it comes from.

01:09:13.000 Like, white people are not protected.

01:09:16.000 This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.

01:09:23.000 I love how they just went with that.

01:09:25.000 This is a giant corporation and they just went with some new word that's only been around for like a month.

01:09:31.000 How long has deadnaming been around for?

01:09:33.000 The Urban Dictionary had it in there from 2014. Unbelievable.

01:09:36.000 I've never even heard that before.

01:09:37.000 They're on the ball, I'll tell you that.

01:09:39.000 Those urbans, they stay ahead. 1.00

01:09:41.000 Twitter still allows goatsees and all the porn you want, which is interesting to me. 0.85

01:09:46.000 Yeah, well, porn's consensual. 0.78

01:09:47.000 I love that... 0.87

01:09:48.000 It's just hilarious.

01:09:50.000 I love that that's all...

01:09:51.000 I do love the chaos of it all.

01:09:54.000 I love the fact that they're trying to sort everything out.

01:09:57.000 I just think the whole thing is crazy.

01:10:00.000 It's so bizarre that...

01:10:04.000 They're trying to, in that sense, with that, that's so vague.

01:10:10.000 Dehumanize or degrade.

01:10:12.000 Well, every joke about someone, every joke about Trump, every single joke about Trump that every single comedian and or commentator and or person makes is in some way degrading. 1.00

01:10:24.000 When you talk about how fucking stupid he is, like Rob Reiner had a joke about him, called him a piece of shit or called him a piece of crap yesterday and said he couldn't believe how fucking dumb he is. 1.00

01:10:34.000 Trump talking about Hillary, though. 1.00

01:10:35.000 He's doing it to Hillary.

01:10:37.000 100%.

01:10:39.000 100%.

01:10:39.000 So that's so vague.

01:10:41.000 Yeah.

01:10:41.000 That's so vague.

01:10:42.000 And deadnaming's not a real word. 0.99

01:10:44.000 So, like, how are they using fake words in this shit? 0.99

01:10:48.000 I think they're trying to say it is now. 0.99

01:10:51.000 It is a real, real word.

01:10:53.000 Yeah.

01:10:54.000 Man, I don't know.

01:10:55.000 If your name used to be Bruce and you changed it to Caitlin, I can't say that.

01:11:01.000 That seems bananas.

01:11:04.000 That seems bananas. 1.00

01:11:05.000 So, like, if you're fucking with somebody, say somebody became a woman and is still an asshole. 1.00

01:11:13.000 You can't call him Mike. 1.00

01:11:15.000 You know, hey, Mike, look, I'm sure you're bitter about this whole changing your sex thing. 0.58

01:11:20.000 You can't bring that up. 0.98

01:11:21.000 But you're still an annoying guy. 1.00

01:11:23.000 You just don't have your dick anymore. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Bye. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Like, if someone says that, they can't say that. 1.00

01:11:28.000 Why can't they say that?

01:11:30.000 They should... 1.00

01:11:30.000 That's, to me, stupid. 1.00

01:11:32.000 Well, I'm not saying... 1.00

01:11:33.000 But that's hurtful, I guess, to transgender people, I guess. 1.00

01:11:36.000 And that can be considered hate speech or hate, whatever.

01:11:41.000 But only when it comes to, like, gender.

01:11:46.000 Right. 1.00

01:11:46.000 Like, if you could tell someone, hey, you're short and fat and stupid, and they don't... 1.00

01:11:52.000 No one cares. 1.00

01:11:54.000 True.

01:11:55.000 Right? 1.00

01:11:55.000 You could say, you're ugly as fuck, your nose is disgusting. 1.00

01:12:01.000 What happens there? 1.00

01:12:03.000 Is that the same thing?

01:12:06.000 It might be if you do it repeatedly.

01:12:08.000 Right.

01:12:09.000 If you just do it once, you just throw one out there, probably okay. 0.99

01:12:12.000 Probably one time you could shit on someone's looks. 0.99

01:12:15.000 You get one. 0.99

01:12:16.000 But it's like deciding what you can and shit on someone for. 1.00

01:12:20.000 What I'm saying is if someone's an asshole, and here's a perfect one. 1.00

01:12:24.000 That woman who used to be a man, she's a transgender woman, who was in a store screaming at this kid behind the counter that it's ma'am. 1.00

01:12:32.000 It's ma'am.

01:12:33.000 This is the perfect example of that.

01:12:35.000 The guy was terrified. 1.00

01:12:36.000 She's fucking huge. 1.00

01:12:37.000 And she used to be a guy and clearly still looks like a guy. 1.00

01:12:40.000 And she's saying, it's fucking ma'am! 0.99

01:12:43.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:12:43.000 She knocked some shit over and she got violent in the store. 1.00

01:12:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:47.000 In that situation, you're telling me that it's not cool to say, how about you settle the fuck down because you look like a guy, you're acting like a violent guy, and you used to be a guy. 0.99

01:13:00.000 Pardon me if I think you're still a fucking guy. 0.99

01:13:03.000 That's dead naming. 0.99

01:13:04.000 But that's a good thing to say in that particular instance.

01:13:07.000 So, without nuance, right?

01:13:09.000 Without context, saying you can't say anything to degrade someone, well, clearly that would degrade that guy. 1.00

01:13:16.000 But if that guy was saying, fuck that kid, he did it on purpose, on Twitter, you're saying someone can't respond, hey man, I'm sure you're really upset that you got your dick removed and you still look like a guy, but fuck you. 1.00

01:13:27.000 Like, why can't someone say that? 1.00

01:13:29.000 Because that's people communicating how they feel about you being a dick. 0.99

01:13:32.000 Like, if you start out being a dick, and then they communicate about you being a dick by being a dick as well, are we banning this? 1.00

01:13:38.000 They're probably just covering their butts. 1.00

01:13:40.000 It's probably not, you know, kind of like Jamie said.

01:13:42.000 It's dangerous.

01:13:44.000 In a lot of ways.

01:13:45.000 It's dangerous to control people's thoughts and behavior.

01:13:48.000 Because who are you to say?

01:13:49.000 And when does it end?

01:13:51.000 You know, it just keeps going and going and going and going.

01:13:53.000 It gets very slippery when you have one group that thinks it's right, and they're trying to control another group that thinks they're right.

01:14:01.000 Man, that is, it seems so simple.

01:14:06.000 When you're just talking about deadnaming transgender people or not degrading people based on their looks or their ethnicity or their this or their that.

01:14:13.000 But what you're doing is you're trying to dictate how humans communicate with each other and people don't like it when you tell them what to do.

01:14:18.000 The problem with telling people what to do is they want to do the exact opposite.

01:14:22.000 This is one of the first things you realize when you have kids.

01:14:24.000 You're like, oh, they don't want to listen to me.

01:14:27.000 I've got to figure out a way to sneak information into them.

01:14:31.000 You've got to figure out a way to not be too bossy.

01:14:34.000 People don't want someone telling them what to do.

01:14:36.000 This is what I missed.

01:14:39.000 When I was headed into that conversation, I missed how other people looked at that guy and what he stands for.

01:14:45.000 I don't think it's correct.

01:14:46.000 I think it's way more complicated.

01:14:48.000 I think it's an insane business to run.

01:14:51.000 I don't think he really knew why Alex Jones was banned or why anybody else was banned.

01:14:56.000 I don't think he really knew.

01:14:57.000 I think he's dealing with a giant corporation and he's a young guy and he wears sandals.

01:15:03.000 And that's not the only company he runs.

01:15:05.000 Wait, wait.

01:15:05.000 What kind of sandals?

01:15:06.000 There's some weird ones.

01:15:08.000 Nice guy.

01:15:08.000 Leave him alone, bro.

01:15:09.000 Let's just choose.

01:15:10.000 What were you saying?

01:15:11.000 He runs a couple different companies.

01:15:12.000 He's not sitting at Twitter offices every day.

01:15:14.000 Oh, that's another thing that Alex Jones brought up today.

01:15:16.000 That he sponsors the podcast through the Cash App, which he also runs.

01:15:22.000 It's 100% true.

01:15:24.000 And I think we talked about it on the podcast.

01:15:26.000 We even talked about the Cash App being a sponsor and about how it's helped Justin Renz fight for the Forgotten Charity.

01:15:32.000 So Alex Jones erroneously said that I didn't mention it.

01:15:35.000 So we did mention it.

01:15:36.000 It's worth mentioning.

01:15:37.000 And Alex Jones is...

01:15:40.000 Having to respond to people that want to know if I've seen what Alex Jones has said about me lately is one of the weirder things that I've dealt with.

01:15:53.000 Because, first of all...

01:15:56.000 I've always had good dealings with Alex in person.

01:15:59.000 Person to person. 1.00

01:16:00.000 But he's obviously in a world of shit right now. 1.00

01:16:02.000 There's a lot going on with him with the Sandy Hook stuff. 0.99

01:16:05.000 And he wasn't entirely honest with me about what he had said about Sandy Hook.

01:16:10.000 Maybe he didn't remember.

01:16:12.000 Maybe he was trying to phrase it in a way other than the way I interpreted it when I saw the videos.

01:16:17.000 But there's a Media Matters video that shows all the time where he said that Sandy Hook was fake.

01:16:23.000 This is very complicated to me.

01:16:24.000 This is one of the reasons why I struggled with bringing him back on the podcast.

01:16:28.000 That's very complicated.

01:16:30.000 That is...

01:16:32.000 Even though I'm...

01:16:34.000 I've known the guy since 1998, and if I'm around him, I'd say that's my friend Alex Jones.

01:16:40.000 He's a friend. 0.98

01:16:42.000 He obviously did something fucked up. 0.99

01:16:45.000 And the parents that had to deal with what he did... 0.99

01:16:48.000 There's parents that had to deal with people calling them a crisis actor...

01:16:52.000 They had to deal with people harassing them at the courthouse and harassing them if they met them in public because they were saying that they were lying about their kids being killed.

01:17:03.000 So not only are their kids being killed, but they have to deal with someone harassing them and saying you're a liar and you're an actor. 0.97

01:17:10.000 It's insanity. 0.99

01:17:13.000 And I would think about it differently if I wasn't friends with Alex, but I would also think about it differently if he hadn't made shit up about me. 0.98

01:17:24.000 He said that I was told to stop talking about conspiracies or they threaten my family. 0.99

01:17:30.000 That's 100% horseshit. 0.97

01:17:32.000 And he has my phone number. 0.99

01:17:33.000 He could have called me.

01:17:34.000 I called him after I heard about it. 0.99

01:17:37.000 He told me that someone told him that I talked to the person who told him that I'm like, this is fucking bananas. 0.99

01:17:43.000 Like, you're out of your mind? 0.99

01:17:44.000 Call me. 1.00

01:17:45.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

01:17:46.000 You think I'm not talking about whatever, fill in the blank, whatever ridiculous conspiracy. 1.00

01:17:52.000 The Rothschilds, the fucking Rockefellers, whatever it is. 0.99

01:17:55.000 I'm not talking about that because the government threatened my family. 1.00

01:17:57.000 That is fucking wrong. 1.00

01:17:59.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

01:18:00.000 And now you put it out there. 0.82

01:18:02.000 So Alex Jones went on afterwards and he apologized and corrected it. 0.98

01:18:07.000 Then recently, because I haven't had him on the podcast, he decided to start saying that I work for the CIA and that I'm George Soro talking points, which I don't even know what these fucking talking points are. 0.61

01:18:20.000 Talking points about him in specific. 0.92

01:18:22.000 Not talking to anybody.

01:18:24.000 No one's giving me talking points.

01:18:26.000 Not George Soros.

01:18:27.000 That's not what Eddie Bravo's been saying.

01:18:29.000 He got good information through Joey Diaz.

01:18:32.000 Eddie Bravo doesn't even say that, so stop. 0.98

01:18:35.000 Joey Diaz did fuck with Eddie for a while, though. 0.97

01:18:37.000 But the point being, Alex, you're out there. 0.98

01:18:43.000 I still like you as a person.

01:18:45.000 If I saw you, I'd still give you a hug. 0.99

01:18:46.000 But you're making shit up. 0.99

01:18:48.000 And this is not helping anybody who wants to defend you. 0.99

01:18:53.000 It's not helping me as a person talk about the good qualities in you.

01:18:58.000 And you know that these things that you're saying are made up.

01:19:01.000 You're making up the fact that I'm in the CIA. You're making up for the fact that the Hollywood insiders have given me information and tell me what to say.

01:19:09.000 That's not true.

01:19:10.000 You know it's not true.

01:19:11.000 You know me.

01:19:12.000 I don't have time to be a CIA insider.

01:19:15.000 I can't take on another job.

01:19:17.000 And between doing stand-up and podcasts and UFC commentator and running a family, I can't do it.

01:19:23.000 I wouldn't do it.

01:19:25.000 I'm not interested.

01:19:27.000 I'd rather stop doing everything than work for any government organization.

01:19:31.000 No one's ever approached me.

01:19:33.000 No one's ever approached anybody I've ever heard of.

01:19:36.000 I don't even know if that really happens.

01:19:38.000 I don't know if that's a real thing.

01:19:39.000 The thing is they always say is that the CIA would talk to the people in Hollywood and tell them what to say in terms of propaganda.

01:19:46.000 Maybe.

01:19:47.000 I don't know.

01:19:48.000 I don't have any personal knowledge of it.

01:19:49.000 I'm sure someone has decided that if they're going to make a movie about like Zero Dark Thirty, that they have to get some sort of approval.

01:19:57.000 And I'm sure that a lot of movies that are very inspirational that have to do with the military would be great for recruitment.

01:20:04.000 So I'm sure there's some involvement.

01:20:05.000 I'm sure there's also some patriots that work in show business that want to put out these movies about the government and about the military in a very positive way.

01:20:17.000 That's probably the case in some instances too. 0.97

01:20:20.000 But not everything's a fucking conspiracy. 1.00

01:20:22.000 And this is why it's stupid. 1.00

01:20:23.000 And why it's stupid is some things are a fucking conspiracy. 1.00

01:20:26.000 And Alex Jones has talked about some things that were real conspiracies. 1.00

01:20:30.000 That 9-11 documentary, The Road to Tyranny, details the World Trade Organization protest.

01:20:37.000 Where they sent in these agent provocateurs, which are essentially soldiers.

01:20:42.000 They send in soldiers and military people dressed up and all black and cover their face, and they smash windows and tip over things, and they take a peaceful protest, and they turn it violent, so then the police can move in and shut down the protest.

01:20:55.000 And then, not only did they do that, but they made a no-protest zone in the United States of America.

01:21:00.000 A no-protest zone.

01:21:02.000 Was it the United States of America?

01:21:03.000 It wasn't Vancouver, was it?

01:21:05.000 It was Seattle.

01:21:05.000 I thought it was Vancouver.

01:21:07.000 No, I think it's Seattle.

01:21:08.000 World Trade Organization protests.

01:21:10.000 Are you talking about with the boots and they all have the same shoes? 1.00

01:21:13.000 Yeah, that shit. 1.00

01:21:14.000 But Alex detailed this. 1.00

01:21:16.000 In detail.

01:21:17.000 And it was real.

01:21:19.000 When he makes things up, There was one recently the David Pakman show had on about Alex talking about people eating baby's pituitary glands and scattered vandalism in downtown Seattle.

01:21:31.000 Yeah, Seattle.

01:21:32.000 So they enforced a no protest zone.

01:21:34.000 That was in 1999, rather.

01:21:39.000 Was it 99?

01:21:40.000 Yeah.

01:21:41.000 December 1st, 1999. October 27, 2009 was the article.

01:21:46.000 Yeah, Alex did that.

01:21:48.000 That was real.

01:21:48.000 That was legit.

01:21:49.000 And it was very informative because I didn't know that that is how the government operated sometimes. 0.98

01:21:54.000 Did you contact him the second time and go, what the fuck's wrong? 0.96

01:21:57.000 I sent him a text message. 0.98

01:21:59.000 I said, this is why I won't talk to you. 1.00

01:22:00.000 You say crazy, stupid shit like this. 1.00

01:22:03.000 I don't hate the guy. 1.00

01:22:05.000 He'll scream and yell and call me a demon.

01:22:08.000 He's not in a good place.

01:22:09.000 You're not in a good place when you're defending against that.

01:22:12.000 And all these other conspiracies, it's all fun and games until you're talking about people's kids getting murdered. 1.00

01:22:18.000 And then all of a sudden people are like, fuck you. 1.00

01:22:20.000 And that's basically what happened with him. 1.00

01:22:22.000 If he was just ranting about government conspiracies or who shot this guy or who's stealing money from here...

01:22:31.000 Some of what he talks about is beneficial, but Alex is not.

01:22:35.000 I don't think he's in a good place.

01:22:36.000 I don't think he's in a good place mentally, and I don't think he's in a good place in terms of his situation with the law.

01:22:43.000 I don't hate you, Alex Jones, if you listen to this.

01:22:45.000 If I saw you, I'd still give you a hug. 0.99

01:22:47.000 I'll still even do your fucking show when I come to Austin. 0.99

01:22:49.000 I don't care. 1.00

01:22:51.000 We can come and hang out, but just stop making shit up. 1.00

01:22:54.000 It's silly. 0.96

01:22:57.000 You know, I'm sorry if there's bad stuff between us.

01:23:01.000 I'm more sorry of what you said about those kids.

01:23:03.000 I'm sorry about everything.

01:23:05.000 It's unfortunate.

01:23:07.000 It's all terrible.

01:23:08.000 Now, something like that.

01:23:12.000 What's the road to redemption for someone like that?

01:23:15.000 The thing about people is, and I think this is also what's going on with Alex, people need a road to redemption.

01:23:22.000 Like, if someone fucks up horribly and does something terrible, Should that be the end of them?

01:23:30.000 This idea that we don't need them anymore, no matter who it is.

01:23:36.000 I mean, what does a person have to do to grow and learn and for people just accept them again?

01:23:43.000 And let them onto all platforms again.

01:23:45.000 What does a person have to do?

01:23:48.000 It's a real good question.

01:23:49.000 I think it's per person, though.

01:23:51.000 Somebody like Alex just seems like he's getting worse and worse.

01:23:53.000 This seems like what he did to just you is just insane.

01:23:56.000 Well, he's doing it to me because he's mad at me because I haven't had him on.

01:24:00.000 I'm sure if he asked you, or if he was in town, I'm sure...

01:24:03.000 No, no, you're not listening.

01:24:05.000 I said I didn't want to have him on.

01:24:07.000 I was trying to figure out whether I would have him on.

01:24:09.000 But when I watched the Media Matters video, it was very clear to me he wasn't being on.

01:24:13.000 I asked him if he had said that it was fake.

01:24:16.000 And he said he questioned whether or not it was real.

01:24:20.000 But then eventually he acknowledged that it was real, which he has done.

01:24:23.000 But there was many times where he said it was fake.

01:24:26.000 Not one.

01:24:27.000 Many times.

01:24:28.000 It's absolutely fake.

01:24:29.000 It was 100% fake.

01:24:30.000 There's video of it.

01:24:31.000 I didn't see the video before we did our 9-11 podcast.

01:24:34.000 I've seen it now.

01:24:36.000 And I still thought about having him on. 0.99

01:24:38.000 I still thought about talking to him about it and talking to him about all this shit and what it's like. 0.99

01:24:44.000 I think he plays a character, honestly. 0.99

01:24:47.000 I don't think so. 0.99

01:24:48.000 I mean, with the reptile guys and people and the things that he says, half of it's just like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.98

01:24:54.000 I think he definitely goes crazy with some things, but I don't think he's doing well. 0.98

01:25:01.000 But he was talking about eating baby's pituitary glands.

01:25:04.000 See if you can find that David Pakman video.

01:25:05.000 David Pakman, who's a progressive commentator online, he was going, look, something's wrong with him.

01:25:14.000 Like, he's playing this video.

01:25:15.000 Like, what?

01:25:16.000 He's talking about them breaking into morgues.

01:25:18.000 What is happening to Alex Jones?

01:25:19.000 Yeah, see if you can find the part on the video where Alex is talking.

01:25:23.000 It's early on.

01:25:24.000 Sounds like schizophrenia.

01:25:25.000 It sounds like any episode of Live PD or Cops, you know, and people are talking...

01:25:29.000 Like, I saw aliens upstairs in my house.

01:25:32.000 You know?

01:25:32.000 Like the other guy, Owen Benjamin, look at him.

01:25:35.000 See, play this real quick.

01:25:37.000 It's all in plain view of these people.

01:25:39.000 They're just putting it in our face, and they want a system where we can't do anything to stop them.

01:25:45.000 That's like Bill Maher.

01:25:46.000 The name of his production company is Kid Love, which is his nameless slogan, basically. 0.99

01:25:53.000 Then he makes jokes about having sex with kids all the time. 0.99

01:25:56.000 And says it's okay to have sex with, you know, kids that have sex with 35-year-olds when they're 12. Just incredibly outrageous, evil, pathetic stuff of these soulless demons, like Bill Maher. 1.00

01:26:09.000 But Josh was saying he had a theory dealing with what walnut sauce is. 0.98

01:26:15.000 And are you going to say it's the pituitary gland?

01:26:18.000 Because they confirmed that Jimmy Savelle and others would torture little kids to death, but if they couldn't get regular ones to kill, If everything was to grab a kid and run over the cars, they could say, oh, there's a police report, they get run over.

01:26:30.000 But they would hurry to the morgue and they work with different government-controlled morgues and eat the pituitary gland as quickly as possible and get high off of it.

01:26:40.000 So, yes.

01:26:41.000 Yeah.

01:26:41.000 Okay.

01:26:42.000 Okay.

01:26:44.000 That's, yeah. 0.99

01:26:46.000 First of all, Bill Maher's not a fucking pedophile. 1.00

01:26:49.000 This is crazy. 1.00

01:26:51.000 This is like a weird rambling.

01:26:52.000 And this is not Alex that I knew from 1998. It's just not.

01:26:57.000 It's not the same guy.

01:26:59.000 This is a guy who's not doing well.

01:27:02.000 So, my apology as a human being to Alex Jones.

01:27:06.000 If you were hurt that I didn't have you back on the show, if you were hurt that I occasionally poke fun at you, I have to.

01:27:13.000 You're hilarious, unfortunately.

01:27:15.000 But I don't hate you.

01:27:17.000 I don't wish you badly.

01:27:19.000 And back in the day, I enjoyed a lot of your stuff.

01:27:23.000 People lose their way, you know?

01:27:27.000 So, I think that...

01:27:32.000 It's a real bad feeling being stuck on the outside, too.

01:27:35.000 When they all band together and kick you out.

01:27:38.000 And everybody kicks you out.

01:27:40.000 Everybody.

01:27:41.000 Twitter and Facebook and everybody and YouTube.

01:27:44.000 Twitter was the last one.

01:27:46.000 But Jack Dorsey didn't even know why Alice Jones got kicked off of Twitter.

01:27:51.000 And people are like, well, let him back in then.

01:27:53.000 Like, yeah, but somebody knows.

01:27:55.000 I don't think Jack Dorsey is really the guy who's looking at each individual person that gets banned.

01:28:02.000 I just have a feeling that that stuff is compartmentalized, right?

01:28:06.000 Of course.

01:28:07.000 67 million monthly active users on there.

01:28:10.000 Right, but how many people are responsible for banning people and real high-profile people, though?

01:28:17.000 I don't know.

01:28:18.000 I'm sure there's a whole, like, maybe 12 people, they have to have a meeting, then they, you know, maybe they talk to Jack, maybe they don't, maybe it's a position.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:28:26.000 Yeah, right?

01:28:27.000 Maybe he doesn't, we don't know.

01:28:29.000 I'll ask that for sure, but maybe he didn't know when people got banned until he, like, maybe got a company memo.

01:28:34.000 Maybe he wasn't involved in the...

01:28:35.000 Of course.

01:28:36.000 Maybe.

01:28:36.000 I don't know.

01:28:38.000 Maybe he's the one who called him up and said, get rid of this motherfucker. 1.00

01:28:41.000 That's possible too. 1.00

01:28:42.000 Here's another one.

01:28:43.000 Here's one that people had an issue with.

01:28:46.000 And one thing you could say, okay, like when Kathy Griffin held up the Trump head, remember that?

01:28:54.000 Did she do that on her own Twitter account? 0.95

01:28:57.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.000 You know she did?

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 Well, I mean, she posted a photo of it.

01:29:01.000 What did she post it?

01:29:02.000 She posted it on Instagram or Twitter?

01:29:04.000 I think it was on both.

01:29:05.000 I'm not 100% sure.

01:29:07.000 Right.

01:29:07.000 So that...

01:29:10.000 It's allowed because it's newsworthy, because it's a celebrity, and the celebrity is threatening a public figure who's also the most powerful person in the world, so it's okay?

01:29:23.000 Is that why that is?

01:29:25.000 I think she posted it because it was an art piece that was kind of controversial.

01:29:29.000 Oh, no, no, no, I know that.

01:29:31.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:29:32.000 I'm saying, why is it okay?

01:29:34.000 Why is she still allowed to be on the platform and Alex Jones gets kicked off?

01:29:38.000 It's an interesting question.

01:29:40.000 What do you need to do to get kicked off?

01:29:42.000 Because that's not the only thing that Kathy's done.

01:29:45.000 Recently, she was one of the people that was calling for the name for that young boy who was with that Native American in front of his face, beating the drum.

01:29:54.000 It's crazy.

01:29:55.000 Irresponsible.

01:29:55.000 You know, I'm sure she feels bad about it now, in retrospect, especially if she's watched the video.

01:29:59.000 But she got carried away, and she thought what we all thought when we saw the picture. 1.00

01:30:02.000 The smirking cunt of a kid that got in the face of this beautiful indigenous man who's singing his rain dance cry or whatever the fuck he's doing. 1.00

01:30:10.000 Yeah, that's not what it was, though. 1.00

01:30:12.000 We found out afterwards it was much more complicated.

01:30:15.000 What is their song?

01:30:16.000 What were they singing?

01:30:17.000 It sounded cool.

01:30:18.000 They should make a record.

01:30:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:20.000 Do you like that shit? 1.00

01:30:22.000 That shit's cool to listen to when you work out. 1.00

01:30:24.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:30:25.000 If you could get some legit Native American chants like that, it would put you into a trance, right? 1.00

01:30:30.000 If you don't know what they're saying, and you just go running, and you listen to that, take a little couple tokes, go for a jog in the woods, listen to Native American chants on your AirPods.

01:30:41.000 Ooh.

01:30:42.000 That was an interesting video, though, because, I mean, that was a 180 after just hearing the second side of the story like 12 hours later.

01:30:49.000 And people still were calling for that guy's head.

01:30:51.000 Yeah.

01:30:52.000 Yeah, and people...

01:30:53.000 I saw someone who said...

01:30:55.000 What's his name?

01:30:56.000 Ron Perlman?

01:30:57.000 No.

01:30:58.000 Who's the guy who was Hellboy?

01:30:59.000 Yeah.

01:31:00.000 Ron Perlman. 0.99

01:31:01.000 Ron Perlman was like, motherfuckers are telling me that I'm not seeing what I'm seeing. 1.00

01:31:05.000 And she said something about some white prick or white motherfucker. 1.00

01:31:10.000 I'm like, oh, okay. 1.00

01:31:11.000 Yeah.

01:31:12.000 People try so hard.

01:31:13.000 Like, you are seeing what you're seeing.

01:31:16.000 Yeah, you're seeing what you're seeing.

01:31:17.000 But what you're not seeing is a video that shows how it occurred.

01:31:21.000 That's all it is.

01:31:22.000 You know?

01:31:23.000 So, why is that okay?

01:31:25.000 Right?

01:31:25.000 Why is that okay?

01:31:26.000 Why is it okay for some journalists to say horrible things about white people?

01:31:32.000 Why is that okay?

01:31:34.000 Why is that okay?

01:31:35.000 Seems weird.

01:31:36.000 What if it encourages violence against a innocent white person?

01:31:40.000 Just one.

01:31:40.000 Should you be responsible?

01:31:42.000 What if they say, why did you do that?

01:31:44.000 Well, I read blah blah blah's tweet and I was like, you know what? 1.00

01:31:47.000 I am gonna go out and punch a white person. 1.00

01:31:50.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:31:50.000 I just found some white old lady and I beat her ass. 1.00

01:31:53.000 Like, if someone decides that, you're not responsible for that, are you? 1.00

01:31:57.000 Probably not.

01:31:58.000 But you gotta kinda feel like you played a part in the way people look at things.

01:32:03.000 Especially people that are very easily influenced.

01:32:07.000 It's just also, it's gross. 0.98

01:32:09.000 You read something really racist against white people, you're like, that's gross. 0.94

01:32:12.000 You think all people are like that? 0.97

01:32:15.000 A whole group of people that don't have as much melanin. 1.00

01:32:17.000 They're all shit. 1.00

01:32:18.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

01:32:19.000 You're a ridiculous person. 1.00

01:32:21.000 I don't care if you're brown or black or yellow. 1.00

01:32:23.000 You're ridiculous. 1.00

01:32:24.000 That's silly. 1.00

01:32:26.000 So we have to decide. 0.99

01:32:28.000 Got to decide, like, what the fuck we're doing. 1.00

01:32:32.000 If we keep letting illogical behavior be normal, like breaking us off into fucking groups like that and thinking that, you know, all men are great or all women are great or all gays are great and all straight cisgendered men can go fuck themselves. 1.00

01:32:48.000 All right. 1.00

01:32:50.000 That's silly talk. 0.91

01:32:51.000 I don't care who you are. 0.96

01:32:53.000 You're not allowed to do that.

01:32:54.000 But we let people do that if they're a part of a marginalized class. 0.99

01:32:57.000 If someone's a part of a marginalized class, then you get to shit on everybody. 1.00

01:33:02.000 In a weird way. 0.99

01:33:03.000 You get to reinforce racism. 0.99

01:33:05.000 It's so fucking counterproductive, too. 0.98

01:33:07.000 Because if you do that, then it just makes people get defensive on the other side. 0.95

01:33:11.000 They don't even want to think or empathize with how you are.

01:33:16.000 Whatever, bro.

01:33:17.000 Social media's really made everything annoying, hasn't it?

01:33:20.000 It has made everything great, too, though.

01:33:22.000 It's both. 0.97

01:33:23.000 Dude, Twitter is like, like we're saying, when someone says something dumb, like Trump will say something dumb sometimes, and I'll just go there for the memes. 0.95

01:33:29.000 And I'll just read his post, and it'll get me going in the morning. 0.84

01:33:32.000 I'll get like 15 minutes of ha-has. 0.98

01:33:35.000 You probably missed this story yesterday.

01:33:36.000 Have you heard any of the 21 Savage news?

01:33:38.000 Oh, he got deported, right?

01:33:40.000 Everyone found out yesterday that he's apparently from the UK. There's two stories.

01:33:46.000 That is part of the story, but memes of him being from the UK and a British rapper that's supposedly from Atlanta really took over to the fact that Demi Lovato tweeted it, and she got shit on, and she's deleted her Twitter now because of the response to that.

01:34:00.000 Did you know who this guy was before? 0.53

01:34:03.000 No, but I'm 51 years old.

01:34:04.000 I'm an old man. 0.99

01:34:05.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

01:34:06.000 Number one record in the country. 0.99

01:34:09.000 Really?

01:34:09.000 Well, Jamie's on black Twitter.

01:34:10.000 Jamie's on black Twitter. 0.98

01:34:12.000 But you're on black Twitter. 0.97

01:34:13.000 Sure, sure. 0.98

01:34:15.000 Could be too.

01:34:16.000 I am.

01:34:17.000 I am.

01:34:17.000 I follow a lot of them.

01:34:18.000 I don't know any of these Tech Nines and Sushi Fours. 1.00

01:34:22.000 That guy's fucked. 0.99

01:34:23.000 That Takeshi69? 1.00

01:34:24.000 He's fucked. 1.00

01:34:25.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:34:26.000 What do you mean maybe?

01:34:27.000 Well, they're saying he's talking. 1.00

01:34:29.000 He's still fucked. 1.00

01:34:30.000 He's fucked. 1.00

01:34:31.000 He's going to jail for a long time with a tattoo of 6ix9ine on his face. 1.00

01:34:36.000 He's going to jail.

01:34:38.000 He's going to have real problems.

01:34:39.000 That ain't good.

01:34:41.000 Did you read the list of charges?

01:34:43.000 There's murder involved.

01:34:44.000 Yeah.

01:34:45.000 Murder?

01:34:45.000 Conspiracy?

01:34:46.000 Video of him supposedly calling a hit on someone.

01:34:48.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:34:51.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:34:52.000 Oh, he's fucked, man. 1.00

01:34:54.000 Even if he cooperates, if they put a hit on someone because he said it, Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:34:59.000 Yeah, he won't get the death penalty, but now he'll be life in prison.

01:35:03.000 He'll be someone's fleshlight.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, heck yeah.

01:35:06.000 Yeah, it's a real problem.

01:35:08.000 Soldier Boy's in jail, too, isn't he?

01:35:10.000 He is?

01:35:11.000 I don't think so.

01:35:11.000 For what?

01:35:12.000 He got arrested.

01:35:13.000 I didn't.

01:35:13.000 Yeah, he did.

01:35:13.000 For what?

01:35:14.000 He beat up his girl and his girl beat him up.

01:35:16.000 No, no, no.

01:35:17.000 That was Little Bow Wow. 1.00

01:35:18.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00

01:35:19.000 You just shamed Soulja Boy for no reason. 1.00

01:35:22.000 With your shitty, pot-addled memory. 1.00

01:35:24.000 Oh, wait a second. 1.00

01:35:24.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00

01:35:25.000 Jamie's right. 1.00

01:35:26.000 I know it was Little Bow Wow.

01:35:28.000 No, there was something else.

01:35:28.000 Hold on, yep.

01:35:29.000 Jesus Christ.

01:35:30.000 He's accused of kidnapping a woman.

01:35:31.000 Oh, kidnapping, I'm sorry.

01:35:33.000 So you got the stories conflated.

01:35:35.000 Kidnapping is even worse.

01:35:36.000 He tied a girl to a chair using an extension cord and kept her for six or seven hours in his garage.

01:35:44.000 Whoa.

01:35:45.000 Yeah.

01:35:45.000 Oh, he's going to jail forever.

01:35:47.000 What'd he do that for?

01:35:48.000 That's someone's daughter.

01:35:49.000 What'd he do that for?

01:35:50.000 Jealousy, I think.

01:35:52.000 It said...

01:35:53.000 This is apparently, according to Celebrity News Outlet, the woman, whose name I will not say, apparently was backing out of a driveway and her car hit Soulja's L.A. home when she hit the curb, or at his house when she hit the curb.

01:36:06.000 From that point on, his assistant reportedly became upset and started fighting with her.

01:36:09.000 From there, Soulja allegedly stepped outside and tried to break up the fight.

01:36:13.000 The woman says that he began punching and kicking her when she was on the ground and then tied her up for six hours.

01:36:21.000 God, Soulja boy.

01:36:24.000 Well...

01:36:24.000 At least Nintendo...

01:36:25.000 One would wish that cooler heads would prevail, but that sounds like a fucking disaster. 0.99

01:36:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:33.000 Jesus Christ.

01:36:34.000 Yikes.

01:36:34.000 You never hear about the spin doctors causing any problems, right, guys?

01:36:38.000 She hit a curb?

01:36:39.000 This all started...

01:36:40.000 She hit a curb with his car or something?

01:36:41.000 She curbed one of his wheels? 0.62

01:36:43.000 Wasn't enough information on there, I don't know.

01:36:44.000 Yeah.

01:36:45.000 Yeah, she probably curbed one of his wheels. 0.99

01:36:47.000 Probably it was a nice car, and she didn't know what the fuck she was doing. 1.00

01:36:50.000 I can drive! 0.99

01:36:51.000 And she... 1.00

01:36:53.000 What a dick. 1.00

01:36:54.000 Tied her up and beat her up. 1.00

01:36:56.000 That's crazy.

01:36:58.000 Allegedly.

01:36:59.000 Right, right, right.

01:37:00.000 You gotta always say that.

01:37:01.000 Yeah.

01:37:02.000 Denied by this team.

01:37:03.000 Did you see that video of that old man putting the ice on the ground and then pretending he fell?

01:37:08.000 Oh, that's, yeah.

01:37:09.000 Allegedly.

01:37:09.000 Brilliant.

01:37:10.000 Allegedly.

01:37:11.000 Allegedly.

01:37:11.000 There's no allegedly needed for that.

01:37:13.000 It's amazing.

01:37:14.000 It's amazing to watch because he didn't know there was a security camera there.

01:37:17.000 He tried to collect.

01:37:19.000 Yeah.

01:37:20.000 There's a lot of people that do that, man.

01:37:21.000 I've seen videos of people doing that at the mall.

01:37:22.000 They'll throw a drink down and then slide down on the drink.

01:37:25.000 We had a guy do it once at a movie theater I worked at, and we had it on video also, and we just showed him the video, and then he left and never heard anything about it.

01:37:32.000 But he was bitching up a storm, like he was hurt.

01:37:34.000 Watch this guy.

01:37:36.000 This guy's hilarious.

01:37:37.000 So he's walking, he looks around, chucks some ice in the ground.

01:37:40.000 A little bit of ice there, no big deal.

01:37:42.000 I'm just gonna go over here, la-di-da-di-da.

01:37:45.000 Okay, here we go.

01:37:45.000 I love his fall.

01:37:46.000 Watch this, he looks around, makes sure no one's looking.

01:37:48.000 Oh. 1.00

01:37:49.000 Even fell like a bitch. 1.00

01:37:51.000 My bad. 1.00

01:37:51.000 He's like holding his drinks. 1.00

01:37:52.000 The most ridiculous. 0.99

01:37:54.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:37:55.000 Silly man. 1.00

01:37:56.000 Silly, silly man. 1.00

01:38:00.000 The thing about those guys is anybody that does that kind of shit, I think the cops, all they have to do is go, sure, what's your social security number? 1.00

01:38:06.000 And they look up all the shit that he's also done. 0.99

01:38:10.000 That ain't just a little bit of a scam. 0.99

01:38:13.000 That's a guy who's been scamming.

01:38:15.000 It's like in Russia and stuff or other countries where everyone's doing the insurance scams to the point where everybody has to have dash cams on their car now.

01:38:24.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that in Russia.

01:38:25.000 You just triggered a story I heard over the weekend.

01:38:28.000 I think this is a story happening in Houston where the cops broke into a house where they had heard that there was, or I think they had a warrant.

01:38:36.000 Report was that neighbors had called in black tar heroin sales or something like that at this house.

01:38:41.000 So they broke in without knocking.

01:38:44.000 It was like a no-knock warrant.

01:38:46.000 The guy's like 57 in the house, hears someone break into his house, gets a shotgun.

01:38:51.000 Shoots one of the cops. 0.99

01:38:52.000 They kill him. 1.00

01:38:54.000 His wife is like, what the fuck's going on? 1.00

01:38:55.000 She goes to try to grab the other cop's gun that had just fallen. 1.00

01:38:59.000 She gets shot.

01:39:00.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:39:00.000 Two people are dead, and they didn't find any heroin.

01:39:04.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:39:05.000 There's like some weed in there or something like that.

01:39:07.000 Uh-oh.

01:39:07.000 And so people are like, they didn't have a history of doing much.

01:39:12.000 That's why I thought of it, because they looked back at these guys.

01:39:14.000 Did they have an arrest history or anything?

01:39:15.000 And there wasn't anything that they'd found, at least when I read about it.

01:39:18.000 Do you remember the one where there was a mayor outside of Washington DC and they were using his house as an address and it was something with the mail delivery guy was running weed and so the mail delivery guy would come by And the package was addressed to him,

01:39:38.000 but he would just keep the package, because he knew that this was this guy's house.

01:39:42.000 It was on his route, and that way, as the package came in the mail, it would be his to deliver, but instead of delivering it, he would hold onto it.

01:39:49.000 So they break into the mayor's house. 1.00

01:39:52.000 Shoot his fucking dogs. 1.00

01:39:55.000 Shoot his dog. 1.00

01:39:56.000 And he had one of my dogs, Marshall. 0.99

01:39:58.000 He was a super-duper sweet dog.

01:40:00.000 He had a yellow lab, which is real similar.

01:40:03.000 I think it was a yellow lab.

01:40:04.000 Might have been a golden retriever. 1.00

01:40:05.000 Either way, they fucking shot at least one of his dogs. 1.00

01:40:08.000 How'd they not know it was the mayor's house? 1.00

01:40:10.000 You'd think that would be like on a list. 1.00

01:40:12.000 They didn't Google shit. 1.00

01:40:15.000 Or maybe they did. 1.00

01:40:16.000 Or maybe they thought fucking the mayor's a drug dealer. 1.00

01:40:19.000 Maybe they really thought that. 1.00

01:40:21.000 But that kind of shit is dark, man, when you just go shoot a golden retriever. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Come on, you're not a pussy. 1.00

01:40:27.000 And I know you're going in there because you think this is a real drug-running operation, because the cops just got bad information, right? 1.00

01:40:32.000 But you're not a pussy. 1.00

01:40:33.000 You don't have to shoot a fucking Labrador. 1.00

01:40:35.000 Stop. 1.00

01:40:35.000 You think that thing's gonna bite you? 1.00

01:40:37.000 Well, when it does, shoot it then. 0.99

01:40:39.000 It's not going to bite you. 1.00

01:40:40.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:40:41.000 That's a weird power trip shit thing. 1.00

01:40:43.000 You shoot all dogs. 1.00

01:40:44.000 No, look, if a guy's got a wolf and it's off the chain, it's running at you, yeah, shoot it. 1.00

01:40:48.000 But you're breaking into some guy's house and then you shoot his fucking dog? 1.00

01:40:50.000 What if you're wrong? 1.00

01:40:51.000 Like, you are a lot. 1.00

01:40:53.000 You cool with shooting someone's fucking dog in front of their kids? 1.00

01:40:56.000 That's what happened to the mayor of this town. 1.00

01:40:58.000 The fucking mayor! 1.00

01:41:03.000 I bet the guy who was the mail carrier thought it was cute to use the mayor's address to get all the weed delivered. 1.00

01:41:08.000 Maybe he didn't.

01:41:08.000 Maybe he voted for his opponent.

01:41:11.000 Or he thought it was safer to do it that way.

01:41:15.000 Did you get a Tesla or are you just driving around?

01:41:17.000 I got one.

01:41:18.000 Tell me, how do you like it?

01:41:20.000 It's preposterous.

01:41:20.000 I had to get one.

01:41:21.000 I told Elon Musk I would get one.

01:41:23.000 Guy did my podcast.

01:41:24.000 I owe him a solid.

01:41:26.000 I'm a man of my word. 1.00

01:41:28.000 It's a fucking spaceship. 0.99

01:41:30.000 It's the weirdest thing I've ever driven in my life. 0.99

01:41:33.000 It doesn't even make sense.

01:41:34.000 It's not even...

01:41:37.000 There's not a single car that I've ever driven that's even close to as fast.

01:41:40.000 Nothing.

01:41:41.000 Like, my Porsche is so slow.

01:41:43.000 I have a GT3 RS. It has 518 horsepower.

01:41:47.000 It weighs 3,000 pounds.

01:41:49.000 It sounds like a dragon.

01:41:50.000 And that Tesla would leave it in the dust.

01:41:53.000 I mean, leave it in the dust!

01:41:56.000 Like, 0 to 62 seconds quicker.

01:41:58.000 Jeez. 0.99

01:41:59.000 It's fucking insane! 1.00

01:42:01.000 Have you taken it out of ludicrous mode? 0.99

01:42:03.000 Yeah, I did.

01:42:04.000 I put it in chill mode for a little while.

01:42:06.000 But you could drive chill with ludicrous mode always available.

01:42:09.000 You don't have to keep switching back and forth.

01:42:10.000 Ludicrous mode is just crazy.

01:42:12.000 It's the fastest and then it kills your battery.

01:42:15.000 Well, it kills your battery quicker, but the thrust that you get is a rollercoaster ride.

01:42:20.000 It's insane.

01:42:21.000 I mean, you can't believe how fast it is.

01:42:23.000 It literally doesn't make sense.

01:42:25.000 It doesn't seem right.

01:42:26.000 It seems like it's punching its way through a wormhole.

01:42:30.000 Using alien technology.

01:42:32.000 Meanwhile, I posted, it seems like something Bob Lazar snuck out of Area 51. I get all these messages from people.

01:42:38.000 Bob Lazar's been debunked.

01:42:40.000 That's controlled opposition.

01:42:43.000 That's a fake story.

01:42:45.000 It's fake news, bro.

01:42:46.000 They got you with the Bob Lazar story.

01:42:48.000 Do you like all the tech in it?

01:42:49.000 I mean, that's...

01:42:50.000 It's insane.

01:42:50.000 It's too much, almost, because it's this giant screen.

01:42:53.000 Like, I had to dim it way the fuck down, because I was just looking at it like, you're so pretty.

01:42:56.000 It's so pretty. 0.78

01:42:58.000 It's so pretty.

01:42:59.000 It's my dream car.

01:43:00.000 It's very comfortable.

01:43:01.000 It's super comfortable.

01:43:02.000 Now, do you have a supercharged station at your house yet?

01:43:05.000 I have a thing on the wall at my house that I can plug it into.

01:43:08.000 It's not a supercharger.

01:43:09.000 It takes like eight hours or more.

01:43:11.000 And how many miles?

01:43:12.000 But I'm going to get one of those.

01:43:13.000 I'm going to get one of those fast charger in the house.

01:43:16.000 It goes allegedly.

01:43:18.000 And I mean allegedly.

01:43:20.000 311 miles.

01:43:22.000 But here's the problem. 1.00

01:43:23.000 I drive like a moron. 1.00

01:43:24.000 So it's not going that far. 0.99

01:43:27.000 Is there a fuel option for that model?

01:43:29.000 Fuel?

01:43:29.000 I mean, I think there's a fuel add-on that gives you an extra, like, that's an option.

01:43:34.000 I thought you meant fuel, like gasoline.

01:43:37.000 Yeah, there's a...

01:43:38.000 What?

01:43:38.000 No?

01:43:39.000 What are you talking about?

01:43:40.000 Some models...

01:43:41.000 Not Tesla.

01:43:42.000 Not Tesla?

01:43:42.000 Okay.

01:43:43.000 You're just making shit up, bro. 0.99

01:43:45.000 Some... 0.99

01:43:45.000 I forget which car it is. 0.99

01:43:47.000 Electric car.

01:43:47.000 It's got four wheels.

01:43:48.000 Electric car, you can pay extra for like one gallon of gas.

01:43:51.000 So like if you ever lose your battery...

01:43:53.000 Oh, I have heard of that.

01:43:54.000 Yeah.

01:43:54.000 Yeah, what was that?

01:43:55.000 I thought Tesla had that for some reason.

01:43:57.000 No, no, no, no.

01:43:58.000 There was like...

01:44:00.000 Prius?

01:44:02.000 Priuses are mixed.

01:44:03.000 They're hybrids.

01:44:04.000 Priuses use gasoline, but a very stingy amount of gasoline.

01:44:08.000 They run partially on electric motors.

01:44:10.000 So do the Acura NSX. The Acura NSX has two electric motors, but I think you don't ever charge it.

01:44:18.000 I think the electric motors are powered by the gasoline engine and electricity in the car, if I remember right. 0.99

01:44:24.000 That's supposed to be the motherfucker. 0.96

01:44:26.000 Like, the Acura NSX is supposed to be the car that people are underlooking for whatever reason. 0.99

01:44:33.000 It just doesn't get the love that it deserves, and apparently the 2019 model is even more insane.

01:44:39.000 I can't wait till the day where, like, your garage floor is like a wireless charging mat.

01:44:43.000 You just pull right up into the mat.

01:44:45.000 Well, it never would be because it's rubber.

01:44:47.000 Well, I'm sure they'll find a way.

01:44:49.000 Because, like, there's, like, if you take your phone and put it on a wireless charger, there's, like, a little room that if you don't have to touch it, like, maybe...

01:44:56.000 That's the whole reason why you're safe from getting hit by lightning, bro.

01:45:00.000 That the rubber protects you from electricity.

01:45:02.000 But if you park, though, a little thing comes down to the ground.

01:45:05.000 Maybe.

01:45:05.000 What if that thing falls out while you're driving?

01:45:07.000 A little boner.

01:45:08.000 Flips your car over.

01:45:09.000 Or if the streets, like if somehow, like if you're riding on the highway and if you want to fuel up, that you can fuel up using the road and pay a fee or something.

01:45:18.000 Right.

01:45:18.000 Well, really, ideally, it would be great if solar panels had gotten so powerful that they could charge it just with the sun.

01:45:25.000 Especially because Southern California is always fucking sunny, except for today.

01:45:29.000 But it's a matter of time. 0.93

01:45:31.000 The car's the future.

01:45:32.000 That's what it is.

01:45:33.000 It really is.

01:45:34.000 Look, I'm a giant fan of American muscle cars.

01:45:37.000 They're my all-time favorite cars.

01:45:38.000 In terms of, like, to drive, to hear the rumble of the engine.

01:45:41.000 I love them.

01:45:42.000 I love them.

01:45:44.000 Maybe I'm some... 0.99

01:45:45.000 Crazy old dude from the fucking 80s that still loves 1960s muscle cars? 1.00

01:45:50.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:45:51.000 I don't care.

01:45:52.000 I love him. 1.00

01:45:52.000 But that fucking car is the future. 1.00

01:45:55.000 That Tesla is the future. 1.00

01:45:56.000 When you drive it, you realize, oh, other cars are stupid. 1.00

01:46:00.000 What is that? 1.00

01:46:00.000 That's that new crazy rocket they showed today. 1.00

01:46:04.000 He's shooting rockets out in his backyard?

01:46:05.000 Is that his house?

01:46:06.000 Is there anything that you don't like or something that kind of bugs you that you wish was like, I don't like how there's no door handles?

01:46:14.000 No, no, no, nothing.

01:46:15.000 You just got to figure it out.

01:46:17.000 It just takes a little while to figure out what all different buttons do and how to get things to happen, but it's really well thought out.

01:46:24.000 Look, he's a legit genius, you know, and what he's doing is unprecedented. 0.97

01:46:31.000 And, you know, this is going to sound like I'm kissing his ass because I like him because he did the podcast and then I became friends with him. 0.98

01:46:36.000 But no, he's important. 0.98

01:46:38.000 The guy's got ideas that are of a magnitude that dummies like you and me are never going to come up with any of those ideas.

01:46:46.000 Ever.

01:46:46.000 If we lived a thousand lives, we would never figure out SpaceX.

01:46:50.000 It's just not in our wheelhouse. 0.99

01:46:51.000 We would never make a fucking electric car. 0.99

01:46:53.000 We'd never make one of those things. 0.99

01:46:55.000 Never make that Tesla Roadster that's going to come out that goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds and looks like a spaceship, like a race car spaceship from the future.

01:47:05.000 We're not doing that, dude.

01:47:06.000 We need people like that.

01:47:07.000 Those guys are super important.

01:47:09.000 This guy is like a culture changer, like a legit culture changer.

01:47:15.000 He got him to smoke weed.

01:47:17.000 Jesus.

01:47:17.000 He wanted to.

01:47:18.000 He's like, ad blocker, busted.

01:47:21.000 I'm looking for the new Toyota Supra, man.

01:47:24.000 Yeah, that's dope.

01:47:25.000 We both had Supras growing up.

01:47:27.000 Dude, the new one looks dope.

01:47:29.000 So this is the SpaceX rocket?

01:47:31.000 Rocket, yeah.

01:47:32.000 What does it say at the top?

01:47:34.000 It says, built a stainless steel rocket ship in Texas that looks like liquid silver and might launch in February.

01:47:42.000 What day is this article?

01:47:46.000 January 11th, a couple weeks ago.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, okay, it fell over.

01:47:48.000 Yeah, I know they've been doing stuff more with it, but I just know how cool it looks.

01:47:51.000 It looks like...

01:47:52.000 But I mean, it fell.

01:47:54.000 It fell on the ground.

01:47:55.000 While it was standing there?

01:47:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:56.000 It got blown over in the wind.

01:47:58.000 It looks like a drawing for a rocket from the 1900s.

01:48:02.000 I don't know if he did it on purpose, but it looks just like a rocket. 0.99

01:48:05.000 Dude, it looks like a fucking movie, like Buck Rogers. 0.99

01:48:10.000 That's a Buck Rogers rocket! 1.00

01:48:12.000 You're right.

01:48:13.000 It looks dope, though.

01:48:14.000 Buck Rogers.

01:48:14.000 Dude, driving that car really feels like the future.

01:48:18.000 And did you get the best model?

01:48:21.000 Of course you did, but...

01:48:23.000 Yeah, I got the Model S P100D is what it's called.

01:48:27.000 I just paid off my car.

01:48:28.000 I might just sell it and get one of those.

01:48:31.000 I'm so tempted.

01:48:31.000 But you have to have a place to park it that has a little charge port.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, I mean, I have a power outlet.

01:48:37.000 They could probably convert it.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 I think there's a couple superchargers in Burbank.

01:48:41.000 Yeah, there's one across the street, but it's always taken.

01:48:43.000 I don't know what the...

01:48:44.000 You know what's weird, man?

01:48:45.000 Passing by gas stations and going, I'm never going to use you with this.

01:48:48.000 I'm never pulling in there unless I want a soda.

01:48:51.000 Look at that thing. 0.96

01:48:52.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

01:48:54.000 Zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds. 0.94

01:48:56.000 And I'm telling you, man, that's not an unrealistic number.

01:48:59.000 620 miles?

01:49:00.000 Yes.

01:49:00.000 Wait, when's this come out?

01:49:01.000 A couple years.

01:49:03.000 It's going to be a while.

01:49:06.000 I'm going to get one.

01:49:08.000 100%.

01:49:08.000 I'll buy your old one.

01:49:09.000 This is such a dope car, man.

01:49:11.000 It doesn't even make sense.

01:49:11.000 Why does it not have a side mirror?

01:49:13.000 It's got no side mirrors?

01:49:14.000 Maybe.

01:49:15.000 As cameras. 1.00

01:49:16.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:49:16.000 Surrendering of it probably does. 1.00

01:49:17.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

01:49:18.000 Take me a goddamn side mirror, you sons of bitches. 1.00

01:49:22.000 I love my cameras on my car. 1.00

01:49:25.000 I don't even use my side mirrors.

01:49:26.000 It's so much better having that.

01:49:28.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

01:49:29.000 How much is that? 1.00

01:49:31.000 620 mile, I don't know, probably stupid expensive. 0.99

01:49:33.000 Look how pretty it is. 0.99

01:49:34.000 It's too pretty to be cheap. 1.00

01:49:35.000 Look how fucking sick that thing looks. 1.00

01:49:38.000 Look at it. 0.99

01:49:39.000 I mean, it's like the ultimate sports car.

01:49:42.000 That easily could be a new 911. From that angle, particularly.

01:49:47.000 And then the roof comes off.

01:49:48.000 It looks like gamer seats.

01:49:50.000 Look at those gamer seats right there.

01:49:51.000 Well, that's what racing seats look like.

01:49:54.000 That's why they were racing seats first and then became gamer seats.

01:49:57.000 But the steering wheel's wonky.

01:49:59.000 The steering wheel's like a F1, like a Formula 1 car.

01:50:02.000 See it?

01:50:02.000 Oh, it's like square.

01:50:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:50:04.000 It's like you grab it by the handles. 1.00

01:50:06.000 Maybe they want to make sure that you don't do this kind of shit. 0.99

01:50:10.000 This is so fast, you probably need to hold onto it in a different way. 1.00

01:50:16.000 Dude, I'm telling you, the car that I got...

01:50:19.000 Beautiful.

01:50:20.000 I've never experienced anything like that before.

01:50:22.000 You don't think it's real.

01:50:23.000 You don't think a car can do that.

01:50:25.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:50:26.000 What?

01:50:26.000 $245,000?

01:50:29.000 Damn. 1.00

01:50:30.000 Chop that chat off. 1.00

01:50:31.000 Oh my gosh.

01:50:32.000 That's plus the $5,000.

01:50:34.000 Oh, so $250,000.

01:50:36.000 $250,000.

01:50:37.000 Yeah.

01:50:38.000 It's probably going to sell out in five seconds, too.

01:50:40.000 I'm going to pay it. 0.98

01:50:41.000 Every dickhead in Hollywood will have one. 0.99

01:50:43.000 Look at me. 0.99

01:50:44.000 I'm environmentally conscious, but still sexy.

01:50:46.000 Look at my beads.

01:50:47.000 Look at my open shirt.

01:50:50.000 I went into a Volt the other day as an Uber, and I was amazed by that.

01:50:54.000 Yeah, they're dope. 0.85

01:50:54.000 They're pretty sweet. 0.85

01:50:55.000 I think that's a hybrid, right?

01:50:56.000 No, it's all electric.

01:50:58.000 I mean, it had like five different cameras, and it was pretty sweet.

01:51:01.000 Did he ask him how long the range is?

01:51:03.000 Yeah, it wasn't as good as...

01:51:04.000 I think it was like 230, I think he said.

01:51:07.000 Okay.

01:51:07.000 That's not bad, though.

01:51:08.000 If you're driving around Hollywood, you could probably get a whole night in, you know, if you're Ubering.

01:51:12.000 Audi just announced theirs yesterday with a Super Bowl commercial.

01:51:15.000 Oh, it looks nasty.

01:51:16.000 I've seen it.

01:51:17.000 It looks nasty.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, it looks nasty.

01:51:19.000 Like Jackson nasty or bad nasty? 0.99

01:51:22.000 Miss Jackson, if you're nasty. 1.00

01:51:23.000 It looks like... 0.93

01:51:24.000 I think you might be thinking of a different one.

01:51:26.000 I'm thinking of the R8. Yeah, this is a different one.

01:51:28.000 Oh, get that out of here. 1.00

01:51:29.000 Take that away. 1.00

01:51:31.000 Look at that stupid grill. 1.00

01:51:32.000 That actually looks like a regular Audi is what it looks like. 1.00

01:51:35.000 But Google Audi electric sports car.

01:51:40.000 That's what it looks like.

01:51:41.000 That doesn't look bad.

01:51:42.000 That looks like a standard SUV. That looks pretty good.

01:51:47.000 What's the mile on that thing?

01:51:48.000 What's the mileage?

01:51:50.000 The range. 1.00

01:51:51.000 The range is everything on these fucking things. 0.99

01:51:52.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:51:53.000 Because if it's anything below like 300 miles...

01:51:56.000 Is that safe?

01:51:57.000 Come back up!

01:51:58.000 It's comparing it.

01:51:59.000 It's comparing the amount of time you charge it and what it takes to charge to get certain things.

01:52:03.000 Oh, the Model X. Model X only does 144 miles.

01:52:06.000 And it does 160 miles.

01:52:09.000 That ain't good.

01:52:09.000 It's on that kind of charger or something like that.

01:52:12.000 Dude, that ain't good.

01:52:13.000 Manufacturer estimate.

01:52:14.000 That ain't good.

01:52:15.000 After 30 minutes.

01:52:16.000 That's only after 30 minutes.

01:52:18.000 Oh, how much you get in 30 minutes.

01:52:20.000 Well, that's pretty good in 30 minutes.

01:52:21.000 Oh, so you can get 160 miles worth of charge in 30 minutes.

01:52:25.000 That's not bad.

01:52:27.000 That's a long time, though, if you've got to go somewhere.

01:52:29.000 If you're in a rush, you can't just pull in and get gas.

01:52:33.000 But you don't want the kind of power that would it take? 0.98

01:52:36.000 I mean, can you imagine how many dipshit? 0.98

01:52:38.000 That's it. 0.99

01:52:39.000 That's the Audi.

01:52:40.000 Look at that thing, Brian.

01:52:43.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:52:44.000 I like that better.

01:52:45.000 No, that's the e-tron one.

01:52:46.000 So it's basically an Audi R8. A next generation Audi R8. Yeah, that's what it looks like.

01:52:53.000 That's a nasty looking car. 0.72

01:52:55.000 It's a dope electric e-tron.

01:52:59.000 But that says 2016. Yeah, I think this is when they announced it back at the car shows and whatnot.

01:53:04.000 It's just now coming out.

01:53:06.000 E-tron's probably what they're calling it.

01:53:07.000 Google, see if it actually is a real thing.

01:53:10.000 Or is it still just a concept? 0.93

01:53:14.000 Because there's a lot of those cars that will disappoint the shit out of you. 0.55

01:53:18.000 279 miles. 0.96

01:53:19.000 Oh, so it's a real thing.

01:53:21.000 When is it available?

01:53:23.000 I wonder when that's coming out.

01:53:25.000 I said 2022 right there.

01:53:27.000 2022. Yeah, so that's probably the same time the rose just coming out.

01:53:31.000 But look how they get your dick hard years in advance. 0.99

01:53:34.000 You could have ordered it in 2015. So rude, though. 1.00

01:53:37.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:53:38.000 So rude to get your dick hard so far in advance. 1.00

01:53:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:41.000 You know?

01:53:41.000 Like, if you're like, yeah, I'm going to be fucking super environmental, but I'm going to just show everybody what's up.

01:53:46.000 I'll be stunting. 0.96

01:53:48.000 Wow.

01:53:48.000 Do you see the new Volkswagen dune buggy?

01:53:52.000 That looks pretty fun.

01:53:53.000 No, what is that?

01:53:54.000 Do you sell a dune buggy?

01:53:56.000 It was just announced.

01:53:57.000 I'm not sure when it's for sale or if it's for sale, but it looks pretty fun.

01:54:02.000 It looks like a classic dune buggy, but they Volkswagened it. 0.99

01:54:06.000 And it has no roof, but it looks like a little fun car.

01:54:10.000 I don't know if they see a picture of that or not.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:14.000 All right.

01:54:15.000 Beetle?

01:54:16.000 Are they a dune buggy?

01:54:18.000 It's a new one?

01:54:19.000 Yeah.

01:54:20.000 It looks kind of cool, right?

01:54:21.000 Whoa! 0.71

01:54:23.000 You could drive that on the road?

01:54:25.000 Yeah.

01:54:26.000 So it's a road car.

01:54:27.000 But is it still a dune buggy?

01:54:29.000 2025. Again!

01:54:30.000 Just cock-teasing! 1.00

01:54:33.000 You sons of bitches! 1.00

01:54:35.000 That looks fun. 1.00

01:54:36.000 Well, they were supposed to announce the new Bronco.

01:54:39.000 Everybody thought it was going to happen at the Detroit Auto Show.

01:54:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:42.000 But it came and went.

01:54:44.000 It came and went with no Bronco.

01:54:47.000 That makes no sense, though, because it's actually on their website.

01:54:50.000 Like, they were going to announce it soon.

01:54:52.000 Was it?

01:54:52.000 For sale, I thought.

01:54:53.000 I don't think they said that they were going to...

01:54:55.000 They probably don't have it down.

01:54:56.000 Sometimes when they're working on these experimental vehicles, they'll develop something, but then they don't like certain aspects of it, or then maybe they're aware of a competitor's work that might come out with more horsepower.

01:55:08.000 For instance, the GT500 from Ford, it was on its way out.

01:55:15.000 They were going to put it out, the new one, But they were saying that it has over 700 horsepower.

01:55:23.000 They never say that.

01:55:24.000 They always give you the exact specific number.

01:55:26.000 They always say 750 horsepower.

01:55:29.000 Is this coming in 2020?

01:55:30.000 It's their website.

01:55:30.000 Okay.

01:55:31.000 But they didn't show it.

01:55:33.000 They're probably going to make a special day for it.

01:55:35.000 That might be interesting. 1.00

01:55:37.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:55:37.000 It's going to be nasty looking. 0.99

01:55:38.000 You see what it looks like?

01:55:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:55:40.000 It looks cool as fuck. 0.62

01:55:41.000 They don't have any pictures of it? 0.96

01:55:42.000 No, because it's Right, it's the Ford website.

01:55:44.000 It doesn't have pictures of it because they haven't released it yet.

01:55:46.000 Right.

01:55:47.000 But what was I just saying?

01:55:52.000 What was I just saying?

01:55:55.000 We're talking about what before the Bronco?

01:55:58.000 The Volkswagen Beetle?

01:56:00.000 No, you were saying...

01:56:01.000 Switch to the Bronco?

01:56:05.000 I don't remember, Jamie. 1.00

01:56:06.000 Fuck me. 1.00

01:56:06.000 Oh, about how it's getting pushed back because, you know, somebody might, like, this car's faster. 1.00

01:56:13.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

01:56:14.000 The Shelby, the GT500. They said it's over 700 horsepower.

01:56:19.000 The reason why they said that is because Dodge came out with the Demon, and then they came out with some other version of the Hellcat that's also like 800 horsepower.

01:56:28.000 So if you come out with only 700 horsepower, it's hard.

01:56:33.000 Because as ridiculous as that sounds, some people are going to think, yeah, but it's not the ZR1 that's got 750, or it's not the this or the that.

01:56:41.000 So they haven't said exactly what the horsepower rating is because they're still trying to juice it up.

01:56:47.000 That might be the case with the Bronco, too.

01:56:49.000 They might be trying to fix things and juice things up.

01:56:52.000 But look how good that looks.

01:56:53.000 Red with the black stripes.

01:56:55.000 Good Lord.

01:56:56.000 I love red and black.

01:56:57.000 See, that car is a reckless person's car.

01:57:00.000 That's the difference between that and, like, a Tesla. 0.99

01:57:02.000 What's exciting about that car, the way it looks, that is a ridiculous person's car. 1.00

01:57:07.000 Like, if that's who you drive around every day, you're not a fucking madman. 0.99

01:57:10.000 You're probably a little tipsy sometimes when you drive, you know? 0.99

01:57:13.000 You might smoke cigarettes.

01:57:15.000 You definitely smoke cigars, you know?

01:57:17.000 You probably order shots, right? 1.00

01:57:20.000 That's a ridiculous person. 1.00

01:57:22.000 It's a fun-ass fucking car, but... 1.00

01:57:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:57:25.000 Keto on weekends. 1.00

01:57:26.000 Look at the transmission.

01:57:29.000 Not only is it an automatic, it's a wheel.

01:57:32.000 It's a wheel that you spin to drive. 1.00

01:57:34.000 Like, fuck you. 1.00

01:57:36.000 First of all, give me a goddamn stick shift like an American. 1.00

01:57:39.000 I want a stick shift with the fucking American flag as the boot of the stick shift. 1.00

01:57:44.000 It's one of the last places on the planet where you can still get a goddamn stick shift sports car. 0.99

01:57:49.000 And what does Ford do? 0.97

01:57:50.000 They released the GT500 with an automatic.

01:57:53.000 How dare you?

01:57:54.000 Don't talk to me about paddles.

01:57:56.000 You can shift it manually with the paddles.

01:57:59.000 I hate paddles. 1.00

01:58:00.000 Paddles are so stupid. 1.00

01:58:02.000 That's not a manual transmission, sir. 1.00

01:58:04.000 That's shifting it with the paddles. 0.97

01:58:06.000 What's my left foot doing?

01:58:07.000 Should I pretend?

01:58:08.000 How about give me a fake clutch?

01:58:10.000 A fake clutch where I can pretend.

01:58:12.000 They look dope, though.

01:58:14.000 Look how good that silver one looks.

01:58:15.000 It looks sexy.

01:58:16.000 Silver with the black stripes. 0.99

01:58:17.000 God damn it. 0.99

01:58:18.000 The red one with the black stripes, too. 0.99

01:58:20.000 So these come out later this year?

01:58:22.000 At the end of the year, kind of?

01:58:23.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:58:24.000 I guess they haven't announced it yet, so.

01:58:26.000 I don't think they've announced the specific date it comes out.

01:58:29.000 But it looks like it's got wider body work, too, doesn't it?

01:58:32.000 Like the fenders are wider in the rear and the front.

01:58:35.000 But if you don't want to wait, you can get something even more powerful that is available right now with a manual transmission.

01:58:42.000 You get the Shelby Super Snake.

01:58:44.000 Google that.

01:58:46.000 You want to see America at its rock-hard finest?

01:58:50.000 2019 or 18 Shelby Super Snake. 0.95

01:58:53.000 800 motherfucking horsepower, wide-body Mustang with a manual transmission. 0.99

01:59:00.000 And they say, don't even fuck with the automatic, because the automatic transmission is the transmission from a regular automatic Mustang, and it just doesn't know what the fuck to do. 0.99

01:59:09.000 I mean, it's just, it's confused by this thing. 0.99

01:59:13.000 The car has 800 horsepower.

01:59:15.000 Turn that volume up.

01:59:22.000 America!

01:59:23.000 Come on.

01:59:24.000 Look at that.

01:59:25.000 Woo! 0.99

01:59:28.000 Yeah, that's not...

01:59:29.000 To me, that's sexy, but not worth $117,000. 1.00

01:59:32.000 Shut your fucking communist mouth. 1.00

01:59:36.000 That is a monster of a car. 1.00

01:59:38.000 Good lord, that's a beautiful thing.

01:59:40.000 On your Tesla, can you download sound effects so it sounds like that?

01:59:43.000 No, I don't want that.

01:59:44.000 Or just farts?

01:59:44.000 You don't want that.

01:59:45.000 You want to just be cool.

01:59:47.000 Just chill.

01:59:49.000 Tesla's like you're a man of leisure.

01:59:52.000 You're a man of leisure.

01:59:53.000 You're driving around.

01:59:54.000 Comfortable and quiet.

01:59:56.000 Because it flies around.

01:59:58.000 It's like it's going through a wormhole everywhere you drive it.

02:00:01.000 Very strange car.

02:00:02.000 Very strange.

02:00:02.000 Have you tried self-driving yet?

02:00:04.000 Have you...

02:00:06.000 It's nerve-wracking, isn't it?

02:00:07.000 Kevin Pereira took me on it once, and it's pretty scary.

02:00:11.000 Yeah, Brian Cowen does that.

02:00:12.000 I think he's beating off a lot when he's driving.

02:00:16.000 Put porn on that big screen I hear.

02:00:18.000 You can? 0.97

02:00:19.000 No.

02:00:22.000 I was like, that's great.

02:00:23.000 Can you imagine just driving? 0.98

02:00:24.000 People are on autopilot just beating off to porn in that giant-ass screen.

02:00:28.000 Does it have a web browser in it? 0.92

02:00:29.000 It seems like it would.

02:00:30.000 I haven't even looked.

02:00:31.000 Man.

02:00:32.000 I'm sure it does something.

02:00:33.000 Yeah.

02:00:34.000 You could probably get online if it's parked or something ridiculous like that.

02:00:36.000 It's a crazy car, but it seems like such a leap from anything that I've ever driven before.

02:00:43.000 Like, I've never experienced anything remotely close to it. 0.95

02:00:48.000 So let's go fucking play some Quake. 0.99

02:00:50.000 Hell yeah. 0.99

02:00:50.000 Let's wrap this up. 0.99

02:00:51.000 So I said everything I wanted to say about the Jack Dorsey thing.

02:00:56.000 I said everything I wanted to say to Alex Jones.

02:00:59.000 So my olive branch extended to you, Mr. Jones.

02:01:02.000 I wish you well in this life.

02:01:04.000 And everybody else, we'll do better.

02:01:06.000 We're going to definitely have Jack back on, and we're going to have Jack back on and review some of these cases with some of the people that are in charge with it.

02:01:15.000 Of it, rather.

02:01:15.000 And we're going to compile a list.

02:01:18.000 We're going to try to get someone to compile a list of what they think would be contradictory cases or hypocritical cases or interesting cases or just fuel for conversation.

02:01:29.000 And we'll figure it out.

02:01:31.000 And yeah, the Cash App is one of the sponsors of the podcast.

02:01:35.000 I'm 99.9% sure we said that.

02:01:40.000 I'm positive we did because we talked about Justin Wren's fight for the Forgotten Charity about what that code word Rogan is doing for pygmies in the Congo when they do that. 0.99

02:01:49.000 I swear to you, even though you don't have to believe me, that did not affect how I talked to that guy.

02:01:53.000 I don't have a problem getting sponsors.

02:01:54.000 I got plenty of sponsors.

02:01:55.000 It's a good sponsor.

02:01:56.000 I like them.

02:01:57.000 They do good things.

02:01:58.000 They donate $5 to UFC fighter Ray Borg's son's medical bills for every time someone uses the code Joe Rogan.

02:02:05.000 So I like them.

02:02:06.000 If I had them as a sponsor and I couldn't talk freely with him, I would be happy if they dropped me.

02:02:12.000 I would be way happier for them to drop me than I would for me to say something different or not say something because they're a sponsor.

02:02:21.000 Again, that sounds very self-serving, like you would say that, right?

02:02:25.000 But it's true.

02:02:27.000 That's all I can tell you.

02:02:28.000 Alright, so that's it for today.

02:02:31.000 Bye.

02:02:32.000 Say bye to everybody.

02:02:33.000 Bye.

02:02:34.000 Bye, see ya.

02:02:52.000 you

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 04, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1238 - Brian Redban

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