The Joe Rogan Experience - May 20, 2019


Joe Rogan Experience #1300 - Michael Malice

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On this episode of Thick & Thin, I sit down with conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos to talk about his new book, "I Am a Nazi: How I Became a Nazi in the 21st Century" and how he became a Nazi. We also talk about why people think Milo is a Nazi and why he thinks it's okay to be a Nazi even if you don't agree with what he's saying. I also discuss how the media and the establishment are trying to delegitimize conservative ideas and ideas and push them down the throats of people who are on the fringe. And I give my thoughts on the double standard that society is trying to create between conservative and liberal thought and how this is a symptom of a deep-rooted problem that needs to be addressed. I also give my opinion on the idea that the left has a monopoly on the microphone and the right wing has no idea what they're doing and how they should be doing it and how to deal with it. And of course, I answer the question, is he a communist or a communist? I'll tell you what I think of it and why it's a good question. Enjoy & Retweet this one! Tweet me if you agree or disagree with it! Timestamps: 1:30 - Is Milo a Nazi? 4:00 - Why do people think he's a Nazi or not? 8:15 - Why does he think it's OK to be racist? 9:00: What's the difference between a communist and a socialist? 11:10 - What does it matter? 13: Is he a Marxist? 15:00 16: What are you a communist ? 17:20 - What's your definition of a communist?? 18:40 - Who's a communist 19:30 21:40 22:00 | What does he do with it? 27:30 | What is a socialist ? 26:10 | How do you need a monopoly? 29:40 | Are you a socialist or a leftist? 31:30 What's a Marxist ? 32: What do you think of me? 33:00? 35:30 Do you need to be part of the left wing? 36:10 37:30 Does he have a monopoly over the microphone? 39:00 Do you agree with me or do I need to go to a doctor?

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00:00:02.000 Boom.
00:00:02.000 Here we go.
00:00:03.000 What's up, buddy?
00:00:04.000 How are you?
00:00:04.000 Good to see you.
00:00:05.000 Great.
00:00:05.000 Good to be here.
00:00:05.000 We were talking before the podcast about people who get mad when I have you on, like as if you're some sort of a monster.
00:00:13.000 You're a mean person. 0.95
00:00:15.000 We were just saying, you're a New York Jew. 0.98
00:00:17.000 You're snarky.
00:00:18.000 You say funny things. 0.78
00:00:20.000 But this idea that you're a Nazi or something, like, people have gotten so crazy.
00:00:24.000 I like that this is this icebreaker.
00:00:26.000 Hey, welcome to my show.
00:00:27.000 By the way, why do people think you're a Nazi?
00:00:29.000 Someone sent me, I don't read comments on Twitter, but someone sent me something like, you having this guy on today.
00:00:35.000 And I'm like, that is so hilarious. 0.98
00:00:36.000 I go, this guy is, yeah, there's some shit you say I don't agree with. 0.99
00:00:40.000 Sure. 0.99
00:00:40.000 You're very reasonable and very intelligent. 0.99
00:00:42.000 Yeah, the last chapter of the book is me arguing with the Nazis.
00:00:45.000 Conversation, folks.
00:00:47.000 It's not bad.
00:00:48.000 It's not bad to talk to people.
00:00:50.000 Well, it's kind of for them a religious thing, right?
00:00:52.000 If someone is a sinner, you can't acknowledge them. 1.00
00:00:55.000 They have to be outside of the fort.
00:00:57.000 That's a good way to look at it.
00:00:58.000 That is what it is.
00:01:00.000 You know what's interesting?
00:01:01.000 I know these people don't mean to do this.
00:01:05.000 This is not their plan.
00:01:06.000 But if you wanted to keep Donald Trump in office, the way the people that oppose Donald Trump are behaving is the perfect way to keep him in office.
00:01:15.000 If you tell high schoolers, if you smoke, your parents are going to get upset and the teachers are going to get upset.
00:01:21.000 That's the biggest cigarette commercial, right?
00:01:24.000 So you tell these kids, hey, if you go to these websites and read these books...
00:01:30.000 Then your parents and the establishment and the teachers are all going to be afraid of you.
00:01:34.000 Well, sign me up.
00:01:36.000 I mean, it's as simple as that.
00:01:37.000 It's the same exact psychology.
00:01:38.000 And they're driving people to the fringe.
00:01:41.000 They are.
00:01:41.000 And the de-platforming thing is fascinating because the way this stuff works, folks, is – When people get deplatformed, the first people that'll get deplatformed are people that you agree with getting deplatformed.
00:01:54.000 People like, you know, like a real Nazi, like someone who's an avowed white supremacist.
00:02:00.000 You're like, yeah, deplatformed that guy.
00:02:01.000 And then it's a little slippery.
00:02:03.000 Because then it's like, this guy's a suspected Nazi, or this guy is friends with a Nazi, or this guy had a Nazi on his show, or this guy had a white supremacist on his show, this guy had a guy who thinks it's okay to be white on his show.
00:02:16.000 And then as it gets more and more progressive, it gets more and more preposterous, but it really is grades.
00:02:22.000 Once you accept one grade, then you drop below in a little bit more preposterous, and then that's acceptable, and then a little bit more, and then that becomes acceptable.
00:02:31.000 And it's a double standard between people who are orthodox and people who are unorthodox.
00:02:35.000 Barbara Walters sat down with Castro.
00:02:37.000 She sat down with Gaddafi, who's killed how many people?
00:02:41.000 That's fine. 0.95
00:02:42.000 You could sit down with a murderous dictator if you're Gaddafi.
00:02:44.000 If you sit down with someone on a podcast with someone who has abhorrent views, that is somehow different.
00:02:50.000 Well, it's a new thing.
00:02:52.000 Right.
00:02:52.000 It's a platforming and de-platforming and you putting this guy on your platform.
00:02:56.000 Like all this kind of communication is very new.
00:02:59.000 It just didn't exist.
00:03:00.000 No one was saying that to Mike Wallace.
00:03:02.000 No one was saying that as you're saying to Barbara Walters.
00:03:04.000 That was my argument to the data and society lady.
00:03:07.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:03:08.000 I said, Barbara Walters interviewed Fidel Castro.
00:03:10.000 Does that make her a communist?
00:03:12.000 Right.
00:03:12.000 I interviewed Milo.
00:03:14.000 Am I a gay conservative provocateur now? 0.90
00:03:16.000 Are you? 0.98
00:03:17.000 I don't think so.
00:03:18.000 Need to go to a doctor.
00:03:19.000 Well, I mean, what they're trying to do is, thanks to social media, they no longer have a monopoly.
00:03:27.000 And I don't mean they, I just mean like orthodox thought.
00:03:30.000 It doesn't mean left wing or right wing.
00:03:31.000 Orthodox thought no longer has a monopoly on the microphone.
00:03:34.000 I think we're good to go.
00:03:57.000 Could with clean hands say, we're not being involved in politics, we're following their rules.
00:04:02.000 So that's what this data society lady is trying to do. 1.00
00:04:04.000 It's like, okay, I'm giving you Target, whatever company an excuse.
00:04:09.000 These are the people you don't need to deal with.
00:04:11.000 And then they could say, well, it's not up to us.
00:04:13.000 We're looking at this from an external point of view.
00:04:15.000 Well, and also my perspective on it is that there's certain subjects that I think that we can all agree on.
00:04:22.000 We need to cover and we need to deal with in terms of laws and in terms of the way the government is run.
00:04:28.000 But a lot of these disagreements aren't on that.
00:04:31.000 A lot of these disagreements seem to be just on political ideologies and like liberal versus conservative ideologies.
00:04:38.000 And people think differently.
00:04:40.000 They have different styles of behavior and thinking. 0.99
00:04:43.000 This is why, like, if you had a station that played hip-hop, and all of a sudden you just got a bunch of Aerosmith songs playing, you'd be like, what the fuck is this? 0.99
00:04:51.000 This is not what I want. 0.99
00:04:52.000 Get this off the station.
00:04:53.000 Except for Walk This Way.
00:04:54.000 That's good.
00:04:55.000 Well, the one with Run DMC. Yeah, that's the one exception.
00:04:57.000 That was one exception.
00:04:59.000 That's sort of how a lot of people seem to be approaching conservative versus progressive thinking.
00:05:06.000 Once you have this mindset, you don't want to hear other opinions as if they're going to influence you or you don't like the way they sound, you don't like what they're doing, and you want to get them off the channel.
00:05:18.000 And this is what it seems like is happening with social media platforms.
00:05:22.000 These social media platforms are like, we're a country station.
00:05:26.000 We don't play heavy metal. 1.00
00:05:27.000 Get that shit off our network. 1.00
00:05:29.000 Like, we are a progressive network. 1.00
00:05:31.000 We don't play conservative.
00:05:33.000 Get that stuff off.
00:05:35.000 Well, if they had said that we're a progressive network, we play conservative, that would be honest and fair.
00:05:39.000 But the claim is, no, we are banning people who are doing X, Y, and Z. Yeah, and you know, for people that are like, oh my god, they're talking about this again. 1.00
00:05:46.000 Fuckers, listen, this is really important shit. 0.99
00:05:49.000 This is going to decide how we... 1.00
00:05:52.000 This didn't exist before, okay?
00:05:55.000 And now it does.
00:05:56.000 Now we have this unbelievable ability to communicate.
00:05:58.000 And I'm enjoying it right now, talking to you, right?
00:06:01.000 We're all enjoying it if you're tweeting about this or writing comments about this. 0.90
00:06:04.000 But if this really branches off until one side gets to do it and one side doesn't, we're going to have a fucking tremendous problem in this country.
00:06:14.000 If you think that this problem that we have right now, when it's just starting to be an issue over the last couple years, if you think that this could escalate into a serious conflict, it's absolutely reasonable to think that violence could come out of this.
00:06:31.000 Well, the Trump presidency was the escalation.
00:06:32.000 Before Trump, it was, okay, fake news was this left idea that, like, these news sites are putting out lies.
00:06:39.000 If your point of view is different to mine, it's not just wrong, it's illegitimate.
00:06:42.000 And a lot of people were in that voting booth and said, you want illegitimacy?
00:06:46.000 Okay, I'm voting for Donald Trump for president.
00:06:48.000 And now he's in the White House.
00:06:49.000 So for you to say that...
00:06:50.000 For people to say that these ideas are evil and shouldn't be discussed, those are separate concepts.
00:06:56.000 Because even if you think they're evil, if from your point of view it's in the White House, are you going to pretend this isn't the most powerful man in the world?
00:07:02.000 There's a big contradiction there.
00:07:03.000 But one of the things progressivism offers many people is this idea of truth and certainty, knowing you're one of the good guys, knowing you're in the majority.
00:07:11.000 And when you find that that is not always true, I think that causes some cognitive stress.
00:07:16.000 Yeah, no, I would absolutely agree with that.
00:07:18.000 I just think...
00:07:20.000 I think I'm going to go.
00:07:43.000 This two-minute video.
00:07:44.000 It's a joke.
00:07:46.000 You can see it on Saturday Live. 0.96
00:07:47.000 You don't have to be Republican or Democrat to laugh at sour pusses. 0.70
00:07:51.000 They got a copyright strike because you don't have the right to use the music.
00:07:55.000 Trump had retweeted it.
00:07:56.000 He put out another one.
00:07:58.000 He just got suspended for a week.
00:07:59.000 He did the video for my book.
00:08:02.000 Here's the thing.
00:08:03.000 If someone is a name, you can say, hey, delete this tweet.
00:08:07.000 It violates our guidelines.
00:08:08.000 You give them warnings.
00:08:09.000 You can call their manager.
00:08:11.000 They don't do that.
00:08:12.000 You're just vanished overnight.
00:08:13.000 And there's something very Soviet about this. 0.82
00:08:16.000 Because when they vanish you, your entire archives get vanished too.
00:08:19.000 And it's like, wait a minute, this person's bad and dangerous, don't you want to show other people as an example of what to avoid?
00:08:24.000 Like, this will get you banned so you can modify your behavior accordingly.
00:08:27.000 But what they want, apparently, it looks like what they want, is for everyone to be self-centering and to be afraid.
00:08:33.000 And that way, it's like, instead of saying we're censorious, it's like, you made that decision on your own.
00:08:39.000 Well, I know Trump has been talking about this now because it affects so many people that are his supporters.
00:08:44.000 Right.
00:08:44.000 And he's been discussing the idea that these people need to abide by the First Amendment.
00:08:51.000 And then there's your argument, well, either they're a private company, they can put on whatever they want, and they can decide whatever they want, or they're protected by the First Amendment.
00:08:59.000 Sure.
00:09:00.000 You know, I had Tulsi Gabbard on the other day.
00:09:02.000 I love her.
00:09:03.000 I love her, too.
00:09:04.000 I asked her to do my show.
00:09:06.000 She wouldn't reply.
00:09:07.000 Really?
00:09:07.000 Yeah.
00:09:08.000 Why?
00:09:08.000 I don't know.
00:09:09.000 She didn't reply.
00:09:09.000 I don't know.
00:09:10.000 On Compound Media?
00:09:11.000 On Gas Digital.
00:09:12.000 Oh, you're on Gas Digital.
00:09:14.000 That's even more disgusting than Compound Media.
00:09:16.000 That's the problem.
00:09:17.000 In all the good ways.
00:09:18.000 In all the good ways.
00:09:19.000 Listen, I love Louis.
00:09:20.000 I love all those guys.
00:09:20.000 I know.
00:09:21.000 But they're savages. 1.00
00:09:22.000 So she's probably like, oh, fuck. 1.00
00:09:23.000 Like, I'm savage adjacent. 1.00
00:09:25.000 Like, I'll have those guys on...
00:09:27.000 You know what I mean?
00:09:28.000 I have officially gotten permission that the room we all record in is called the gas chamber.
00:09:32.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:09:33.000 Yeah, you can say that.
00:09:34.000 I can say that.
00:09:34.000 Yeah, you're allowed.
00:09:35.000 Yeah.
00:09:35.000 Or you got that privilege.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, that's privilege.
00:09:38.000 True privilege, yeah.
00:09:40.000 Yeah, maybe she will.
00:09:42.000 I'll tell her about it.
00:09:44.000 But she was on.
00:09:44.000 Her and I are besties.
00:09:45.000 Yeah, we're totally besties. 0.97
00:09:49.000 I really do respect the shit out of her. 0.95
00:09:50.000 I really do. 0.99
00:09:52.000 You know, I would love to call her Madam President.
00:09:54.000 I think that would be dope.
00:09:55.000 She's smart, man.
00:09:57.000 She's so measured.
00:09:58.000 I mean, she doesn't have all the answers.
00:09:59.000 I mean, some of the things that she says are things that you say, you know?
00:10:03.000 Sure.
00:10:03.000 Like, we're going to have to work to create more jobs.
00:10:06.000 Like, that kind of talk is like politician talk.
00:10:08.000 And I go, okay, well, what would that mean?
00:10:10.000 And we'll have to figure that out.
00:10:11.000 And I think she's sincere.
00:10:13.000 Yeah.
00:10:13.000 These answers don't really exist.
00:10:16.000 How to fix inner cities.
00:10:18.000 These are some of the big issues that she discussed.
00:10:21.000 We talked about horrible neighborhoods that have always been horrible.
00:10:25.000 How is this? 0.97
00:10:26.000 We're going to fucking Afghanistan trying to fix there, and we're not trying to fix Chicago, the south side of Chicago. 0.98
00:10:31.000 What's happening there? 0.99
00:10:32.000 Why are so many people getting shot?
00:10:33.000 How come we can't fix it?
00:10:33.000 You know what's funny?
00:10:34.000 Back in the day, they had something called slum clearance.
00:10:37.000 And the idea was, if you tear down these old buildings and build new buildings, somehow the crime's going to go away.
00:10:42.000 And this was a big movement.
00:10:44.000 It's just like, yeah, it's the building's fault. 1.00
00:10:46.000 It's the fucking haunted houses people are living in. 1.00
00:10:49.000 They have decades and decades of crack and bullets flying through them. 1.00
00:10:52.000 That's so crazy.
00:10:53.000 No, but she's great because my biggest issue is anti-war.
00:10:58.000 Yes.
00:10:58.000 And anyone for me whose first priority isn't, let's stop killing people, that I'm a fan of.
00:11:04.000 Yeah, and she's also a veteran.
00:11:06.000 Yeah.
00:11:06.000 16 years.
00:11:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:11:08.000 I'm a big fan.
00:11:10.000 But, you know, I think this country needs more.
00:11:14.000 We need real plans.
00:11:17.000 The way we engineer software systems, search engines, operating systems for cell phones, they should engineer society.
00:11:28.000 We should really be looking at it in terms of...
00:11:31.000 The potential for prosperity, opportunity, all these different things that we don't cover.
00:11:36.000 We just sort of leave so much up to chance because we buy the bullshit that, like, I mean, I think we all know at this point that not everyone's on an even playing field.
00:11:45.000 We're just not. 0.95
00:11:46.000 I don't think a lot of people know that. 1.00
00:11:49.000 Well, they're fucking crazy. 1.00
00:11:51.000 And that's the problem. 1.00
00:11:51.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:11:52.000 Yes. 1.00
00:11:52.000 They're fucking crazy. 1.00
00:11:53.000 If you don't think that being born in a crime-ridden neighborhood with violence all around you and being exposed to that at an early age fucks your head up. 1.00
00:12:01.000 I don't even mean that.
00:12:02.000 I think the fact that to admit that a lot of people aren't hardworking.
00:12:05.000 Oh yeah, there's that too.
00:12:06.000 And to say that out there is shocking to many people.
00:12:09.000 It's like, yeah, some people are bad.
00:12:10.000 Some people think that just because they show up at work and they don't want to, that they're working hard.
00:12:17.000 Right.
00:12:17.000 It's hard for them.
00:12:19.000 You fucking, you just got lucky. 1.00
00:12:21.000 You know what I read that was one of the more hilarious things that I've ever heard of a crazy progressive person write? 1.00
00:12:28.000 If you are successful, it is because someone else got fucked over. 0.99
00:12:33.000 That's so disturbing. 0.98
00:12:34.000 But it's such a crazy way to look at it. 0.98
00:12:36.000 It's like, okay, somewhere down the chain, if you have an iPhone, someone got fucked over. 0.91
00:12:40.000 Someone lost their iPhone. 0.88
00:12:42.000 But that's the logic, right?
00:12:44.000 No, no, no. 0.99
00:12:44.000 The logic is someone had to work as a slave in Foxconn to make these fucking iPhones for like 15 cents a week or whatever they make over there. 0.99
00:12:52.000 But if that slave wasn't making 15 cents a week, that slave would be dead. 0.99
00:12:56.000 That's what they're not missing.
00:12:57.000 That's where it gets squirrely, right?
00:12:58.000 But yeah, but is that okay?
00:13:00.000 When they go to third world countries and set up these sweatshops, and I knew someone who had one, and they were doing fucking mental gymnastics to try to justify, and I was like, wait a minute, how much do you pay these people? 0.76
00:13:11.000 And they were like, they were going to starve to death if it wasn't for us.
00:13:13.000 I'm like, are you sure they were there, right?
00:13:15.000 They were there.
00:13:16.000 They've probably been there for thousands of years.
00:13:18.000 Like, where'd you go?
00:13:19.000 Like, Guatemala?
00:13:21.000 Where was it?
00:13:21.000 Argentina?
00:13:22.000 I'll give you two examples that are...
00:13:24.000 Maybe I can't speak to specific...
00:13:26.000 Second World examples. 0.85
00:13:27.000 North Korea, which is obviously my beat, right?
00:13:29.000 Yeah, that's your beat.
00:13:30.000 So there is a...
00:13:34.000 We're good to go.
00:13:55.000 But they're beating down their doors to work in these locations because they're providing for their family and they're still wealthier than the alternative.
00:14:02.000 Now, this is a very extreme situation.
00:14:05.000 This isn't like, I don't know, Third World, what country your friend has a sweatshop in.
00:14:08.000 But there are circumstances where a lot of people on the left and on the right don't understand often that politics and economics is about often you have two bad choices.
00:14:18.000 Like, what is the alternative?
00:14:20.000 It's like, for example, you're going to put forth a law.
00:14:23.000 What are you going to do about people who are going to look at this law not in good faith?
00:14:27.000 Like, there was that guy, what's his name, Zumi, Zudi, who said, I'm trans, and he just made that video.
00:14:33.000 Oh, Zubi.
00:14:33.000 Zubi, yeah.
00:14:34.000 He just broke the woman's deadlift referee.
00:14:36.000 He's like, I'm a woman, here we go.
00:14:37.000 By the way, they took those records away from that Australian woman that used to be a guy.
00:14:42.000 Okay.
00:14:43.000 That was Australia, right?
00:14:44.000 Wasn't it the world – the powerlifting women's world record?
00:14:47.000 She broke like three of them. 0.69
00:14:49.000 So not even about trans stuff.
00:14:51.000 It's like what do you do with any law when someone is going to act in bad faith?
00:14:55.000 And if you can't account for that, you're not being responsible with your proposal.
00:15:00.000 Yeah, this isn't even a law, though.
00:15:02.000 We're talking about with the trans athletes.
00:15:04.000 It's just – it's loopholes.
00:15:08.000 People don't want to be seen as transphobic in today's climate, so they're allowing preposterous things.
00:15:13.000 What was that like for you when you were talking?
00:15:15.000 I remember when you were talking to Adam on this show, that got pretty heated.
00:15:18.000 Oh yeah, Adam ruins everything?
00:15:19.000 Yeah.
00:15:20.000 It didn't get heated.
00:15:22.000 I mean, I never got upset.
00:15:24.000 We absolutely disagreed.
00:15:27.000 But he had some crazy notions about competition that didn't make any sense either.
00:15:32.000 That somehow or another the sports are designed to favor men.
00:15:37.000 What?
00:15:38.000 Yeah, it didn't make any sense.
00:15:39.000 A lot of it was progressive rehashing, in my opinion.
00:15:43.000 I think it sounded good to him, but I don't know how much actual thought he's put into it.
00:15:47.000 What's actually interesting is in his show...
00:15:51.000 He's well-researched and no one's opposing this data that he's putting out.
00:15:57.000 So he gets to say these things.
00:15:59.000 It's one of the problems with writing a blog or making a video about something where no one goes, actually, that's not really true.
00:16:06.000 This is why that's not true.
00:16:07.000 Let me explain.
00:16:08.000 And this is why you're wrong.
00:16:09.000 And now continue.
00:16:10.000 See, when you can just go on these long, unchecked Rants.
00:16:15.000 That's where you get, like, flat earth believers. 0.99
00:16:18.000 That's what that shit's from, because they watch those videos, and they go, oh, this makes sense. 0.97
00:16:22.000 But this is why it's so important that unorthodox voices don't get deplatformed. 0.99
00:16:25.000 Because even if that person is putting forth things that are completely full of shit, their criticism and their perspective, they might have some truth in it. 0.95
00:16:34.000 And at the very least, like when I was at Charlottesville and I talked to these people... 0.98
00:16:37.000 By talking to them, it makes me think through, why do I believe what I believe?
00:16:42.000 Why is my truth the actual truth? 0.98
00:16:44.000 And I'm going to be challenged on my views, and I'm going to have a better grounding for them, as opposed to, like you're saying, if I'm sitting here just giving a monologue, and no one ever calls me out on my bullshit. 0.88
00:16:52.000 Yeah, I think, I see what you're saying, and I think what they think is you have to silence these bad voices, like the anti-vax movement. 0.89
00:17:01.000 That's a big one, right?
00:17:02.000 Now people are saying you've got to silence anti-vax.
00:17:04.000 So they're taking anti-vax videos down, they're taking anti-vax pages down.
00:17:09.000 I don't know how much they actually know about the science.
00:17:15.000 Vaccines are incredible for health in terms of what they've done to protect us from diseases.
00:17:21.000 They've stopped smallpox.
00:17:23.000 They've stopped polio.
00:17:24.000 And when you see these outbreaks of measles, that is a direct result of people not getting vaccinated.
00:17:32.000 You know, does that mean that no one's ever been hurt by vaccines?
00:17:34.000 No.
00:17:35.000 No, it doesn't, man.
00:17:36.000 There's a vaccine court.
00:17:38.000 People have been injured.
00:17:38.000 People have died.
00:17:39.000 That's a fact.
00:17:41.000 But that's, I think, just a part of medical procedures in human beings.
00:17:45.000 I mean, a lot of kids die every year from circumcision.
00:17:48.000 They get infections. 0.99
00:17:49.000 They lose their penises. 0.98
00:17:51.000 Yeah, it's, like, very common. 0.97
00:17:53.000 Like, way more common in terms of, like, the numbers per year than you would ever want to hear.
00:17:57.000 Oh, God.
00:17:58.000 Okay.
00:17:58.000 Yeah.
00:17:59.000 People die from things.
00:18:00.000 They get infections.
00:18:01.000 People have allergic reactions to certain chemicals.
00:18:05.000 But then the problem is now those vaxxers can say we're being covered up.
00:18:09.000 Now they're honest.
00:18:10.000 It's the truth.
00:18:10.000 They are being covered up.
00:18:12.000 They are being covered up.
00:18:12.000 Yeah.
00:18:13.000 So it's very – I would think – But the problem is who's right and who's wrong.
00:18:16.000 Like if you're a person and you have a child and you're terrified, can you go to these websites and you're like, oh my god, I don't want my kid to get – We're good to go.
00:18:42.000 Very knowledgeable about vaccines and very knowledgeable about diseases in general.
00:18:47.000 He was describing what they think the causes of autism are, how it takes place in the womb, and how what's most likely happening is just expressing itself at the same time that the kid's getting vaccinated.
00:19:01.000 And you're correlating the two things together.
00:19:04.000 Well, there's also the movement of not regarding autism as a problem or a coda, you know, children of deaf adults.
00:19:10.000 You know, you have these parents whose kids are deaf and they refuse to get them cochlear implants to give them the ability to hear because they think that's losing deaf culture.
00:19:18.000 Now, to me...
00:19:19.000 You never heard this?
00:19:20.000 No.
00:19:21.000 This is a thing.
00:19:21.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:19:22.000 Because everything is a thing.
00:19:24.000 When you think about it for a few seconds, you can understand where they're coming from because you want to be like, well, you're saying I'm bad because I'm deaf.
00:19:31.000 But then you hear people that are trans-disabled.
00:19:34.000 Do you know what that is?
00:19:36.000 Where they cut their hand off because they feel like they're supposed to have no hand?
00:19:39.000 No.
00:19:40.000 Oh, yes.
00:19:41.000 Oh yeah, see these things, this is what I'm saying, like they're all, I'm lumping them all together because what they are is all of them are these weird variables when it comes to human behavior and thinking and patterns and biology.
00:19:54.000 All these weird variables where you get so many numbers. 0.76
00:19:57.000 And if you have all these people, 300 whatever million we have in this country, you're gonna have a few thousand of almost every fucking variable. 0.75
00:20:06.000 Every weird variable. 0.91
00:20:08.000 Good lord.
00:20:08.000 Good lord.
00:20:09.000 Yeah.
00:20:10.000 All I know is the politics.
00:20:11.000 The health stuff, I don't even want to wade into that.
00:20:13.000 Dude, there was an old website that I was going to.
00:20:18.000 What was that?
00:20:19.000 Body Modification Extreme.
00:20:20.000 Do you remember that guy?
00:20:22.000 BME. He died.
00:20:23.000 Oh, the lizard guy?
00:20:24.000 Or the cat guy?
00:20:25.000 No, his name was Shannon Laureate is how you say his name.
00:20:29.000 But B-M-E, Body Modification Extreme was the website.
00:20:32.000 He and I became like pen pals.
00:20:36.000 He sent me some stuff. 0.98
00:20:38.000 I wrote something once about body modification, like what kind of weird shit people do. 0.78
00:20:42.000 And he's like, hey man, if you ever have any questions, feel free to ask me. 0.55
00:20:45.000 This is my website.
00:20:46.000 He sent me a password to his website because it was like one of those things you had to pay for a membership. 0.98
00:20:50.000 And I was like, holy shit. 0.92
00:20:52.000 You go to this website and it's just, it was just, this was in the 90s, okay? 0.99
00:20:57.000 And the most freakish, weirdest fucking body modifications and there's a whole culture behind it. 0.96
00:21:04.000 People putting horns on their heads and doing weird shit to their skin, making it bulge out and tattooing their whole face. 0.99
00:21:10.000 My friend Melissa, she had magnets implanted on her fingers. 0.99
00:21:13.000 I don't know why.
00:21:14.000 Well, you never know.
00:21:15.000 For what?
00:21:16.000 What do you think the magnets for?
00:21:17.000 Well, you have to pick things up but you don't want to close your hand. 0.98
00:21:19.000 What the fuck is wrong with me? 0.99
00:21:21.000 Tree frogs. 1.00
00:21:22.000 Magnets.
00:21:22.000 Well, people think that magnets, like, wear magnets as a wristband.
00:21:25.000 It's supposed to be good for you.
00:21:26.000 It cures autism.
00:21:28.000 You get the vaccine, then you get the magnet.
00:21:30.000 You know, it sounds stupid, but they use magnetic therapy for veterans that have PTSD and CTE because there's areas of the brain that they can actually stimulate with these very powerful magnets.
00:21:42.000 Kat Zingano, UFC fighter. 0.92
00:21:45.000 She went down there when she was having some serious repercussions from her fight with Amanda Nunes.
00:21:51.000 She got really battered badly in the first round.
00:21:54.000 And her hormones were out of whack for months afterwards. 1.00
00:21:57.000 She was all fucked up. 1.00
00:21:58.000 Her cortisol levels were all fucked up. 1.00
00:21:59.000 And finally, she went and her sparring was off. 0.99
00:22:02.000 Her timing was off.
00:22:03.000 She was like, I just have to rush people.
00:22:04.000 I didn't have any sense of timing.
00:22:06.000 She was having real problems with her brain.
00:22:08.000 And they fixed it.
00:22:10.000 They fix it with magnets, these electromagnetic pulses.
00:22:13.000 I'm just saying words that I don't understand. 0.99
00:22:15.000 So if you're a scientist and you're like, what the fuck are you saying? 0.99
00:22:18.000 There's a scientist tweeting at you feverishly right now. 1.00
00:22:20.000 You're spreading lies!
00:22:21.000 Listen, angry scientist, I'm with you. 1.00
00:22:24.000 I'm retarded. 0.74
00:22:25.000 Listen, they throw these waves at the brain and somehow or another these electromagnetic waves stimulate areas of the mind.
00:22:35.000 And it actually forces brain cells to grow and forces neural connections.
00:22:39.000 It's really interesting stuff.
00:22:41.000 Kat Singano explained it pretty in depth, but it really helped her.
00:22:44.000 So it's weird that a magnet would work for that.
00:22:46.000 But those are like really strong ones.
00:22:48.000 Okay.
00:22:49.000 The little ones around your wrist.
00:22:50.000 No, that doesn't do anything.
00:22:51.000 But it might.
00:22:52.000 I mean, I don't know. 0.98
00:22:53.000 What the fuck do I know? 0.99
00:22:54.000 Yeah, well, I'm not spending the $24.99 on that fucking bracelet, that's for sure. 1.00
00:22:57.000 Yeah, but it's got an English guy that's selling it. 0.98
00:23:00.000 That's how you know it's legit.
00:23:01.000 And it comes with a mop.
00:23:03.000 It comes with a free shammy.
00:23:04.000 Remember the ShamWow guy?
00:23:05.000 He's dead, isn't he?
00:23:06.000 Yeah, didn't he get bit? 0.66
00:23:07.000 He's Israeli. 1.00
00:23:07.000 Did he get bit by a hooker? 1.00
00:23:09.000 Oh, no, it's the other one who got died. 0.97
00:23:10.000 The OxyClean guy's dead.
00:23:11.000 Billy whatever.
00:23:12.000 ShamWow's alive.
00:23:13.000 Yeah, Billy was tooting up.
00:23:15.000 Yeah.
00:23:16.000 Is that what it was?
00:23:16.000 Yeah, he had a lot of coke in his system, apparently.
00:23:19.000 Oh.
00:23:20.000 He's cutting with OxyClean?
00:23:21.000 He had a heart attack, right?
00:23:22.000 Yeah.
00:23:23.000 Listen, man, you got that oxy money.
00:23:25.000 That'll clean your sinuses up. 1.00
00:23:27.000 You want a fucking party. 1.00
00:23:28.000 He probably had a yellow Lamborghini, a dick implant. 1.00
00:23:32.000 Just kidding. 0.99
00:23:32.000 I made that part up. 0.99
00:23:33.000 I'm sure he was a great guy.
00:23:35.000 Wasn't he in the middle of doing a television show?
00:23:36.000 They were doing a television show about him.
00:23:39.000 Yeah, he had the pitchman.
00:23:41.000 It was like a sitcom or something.
00:23:42.000 It was like a...
00:23:43.000 Reality show?
00:23:44.000 Yeah, reality type show where they're following them around doing pitches and stuff. 1.00
00:23:46.000 There's an art to that shit. 1.00
00:23:48.000 Those guys... 1.00
00:23:48.000 He got me to buy... 1.00
00:23:50.000 Shark Tank before them.
00:23:51.000 I think they were helping people do stuff.
00:23:53.000 Sort of.
00:23:54.000 Oh, like Kitchen Nightmares?
00:23:56.000 Yeah, I'm friends with his son.
00:23:57.000 Oh! 0.60
00:23:57.000 The Shark Tank's son or the... 0.60
00:23:58.000 No, Billy Mays.
00:23:59.000 Billy Mays.
00:24:00.000 You're friends with Billy Mays' son?
00:24:01.000 Yeah, I went to school with him.
00:24:02.000 I'm sorry, I said all that stuff.
00:24:02.000 What's his son's name?
00:24:03.000 Billy Mays.
00:24:04.000 I was just joking around.
00:24:04.000 Is it Billy Mays Jr.?
00:24:05.000 Don't shout him out.
00:24:06.000 He's the third.
00:24:07.000 Oh, the third.
00:24:08.000 He's probably mad.
00:24:08.000 We're talking about his dad.
00:24:09.000 He's...
00:24:11.000 I'm sure Billy Mays was a good guy, but didn't he?
00:24:15.000 He's your friend.
00:24:17.000 That's why he couldn't respond.
00:24:18.000 Anyway, dude was partying.
00:24:21.000 The ShamWow guy was the guy who got bit.
00:24:25.000 It's hard to get track of.
00:24:26.000 I actually think he bit someone.
00:24:28.000 What?
00:24:29.000 He bit someone?
00:24:30.000 Like Marv Albert?
00:24:31.000 Did Marv Albert bite someone?
00:24:33.000 Yeah, did he bite the lady? 1.00
00:24:34.000 I thought she bit him too.
00:24:35.000 I don't know.
00:24:36.000 I get my stories all confused when it comes to dudes biting.
00:24:39.000 Too many vaccines.
00:24:41.000 That's your problem.
00:24:42.000 Yes, it is, man. 0.99
00:24:44.000 They saved me from the measles, but they made me dumber. 0.96
00:24:48.000 What happened? 0.95
00:24:49.000 Oh, there it is.
00:24:50.000 Oh, God.
00:24:51.000 Oh, he bit her?
00:24:52.000 It's happened a few times, I think.
00:24:53.000 ShamWow Pitchman Brutal Beatdown.
00:24:55.000 Yeah.
00:24:56.000 So they just went to war.
00:24:56.000 Oh, my God.
00:24:57.000 He did that to her eyes?
00:24:58.000 Is that real?
00:24:58.000 I don't know.
00:24:59.000 That might not be real.
00:25:00.000 That looks like makeup, though.
00:25:01.000 That looks crazy.
00:25:01.000 That's like smokey eyes.
00:25:02.000 Yeah, no.
00:25:03.000 It didn't look like makeup to me.
00:25:04.000 It was so symmetrical.
00:25:05.000 It looks like black eyes.
00:25:06.000 That's what happens when you get smashed in the nose.
00:25:07.000 But that's the look.
00:25:08.000 With the makeup, you know?
00:25:10.000 She had his tongue, and so he started punching her until she released his tongue. 1.00
00:25:16.000 Oh, my God. 0.51
00:25:17.000 In her hand or in her mouth? 0.90
00:25:19.000 In his tongue, and he's punching her in the face? 0.94
00:25:21.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:25:22.000 People are crazy. 0.94
00:25:24.000 That's meth, right? 0.99
00:25:26.000 Have you had a guess?
00:25:27.000 What's involved there?
00:25:28.000 No, it's something crazier than meth.
00:25:30.000 Really?
00:25:30.000 Like PCP? Or like bath salts.
00:25:34.000 Oh, remember that?
00:25:35.000 If you're grabbing someone's tongue, it's bath salts.
00:25:37.000 I think bath salts were meth, though.
00:25:39.000 No.
00:25:40.000 Yeah, I think it was.
00:25:41.000 I think what it was was meth, I think they altered a molecule so that it doesn't fall into the protected Schedule I drug.
00:25:52.000 See, you can do things like that.
00:25:54.000 That's why DMT was illegal, but 5-methoxy DMT wasn't, which is actually stronger.
00:26:03.000 They missed that one.
00:26:04.000 Here it goes.
00:26:05.000 What's that drug the last 10 minutes?
00:26:06.000 Oh, what is this?
00:26:08.000 Bath salts.
00:26:09.000 Well, first of all, here's another thing.
00:26:11.000 I think there's a bunch of different kinds of bath salts.
00:26:14.000 For sure.
00:26:15.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:26:16.000 You got the lavender.
00:26:17.000 You got the potpourri.
00:26:19.000 You got the lemon.
00:26:20.000 But I mean, nobody, I don't think anybody has a patent.
00:26:23.000 You can't call that bath salts.
00:26:25.000 Wait, come on.
00:26:26.000 I barely got high on this.
00:26:27.000 It's bath salts because of the name, Bathione?
00:26:29.000 No, no, no.
00:26:30.000 The bath salts is because they were selling it in stores as bath salts, not for human consumption.
00:26:36.000 No, but you just pulled it up.
00:26:37.000 It looked like the chemical was Bathione.
00:26:41.000 No, cathinone. 0.65
00:26:42.000 Oh, cathinone.
00:26:42.000 I misread it, okay.
00:26:43.000 But what I'm saying is they labeled it bath salts so they could sell it, but everybody knew it was meth.
00:26:48.000 They're like, hey man, there's bath salts over there, you should try smoking that.
00:26:51.000 But isn't that how salvia was around for a long time?
00:26:53.000 Salvia was around for the same reason 5-methoxy-DMT was around.
00:26:56.000 They missed it in the sweeping Schedule I drug act of 1970. Okay.
00:27:01.000 They missed that one.
00:27:02.000 It was two of the most potent ones they missed.
00:27:05.000 Salvia divinorum and 5-methoxy-DMT. And that's why they're always changing it, because if it's slightly different, then you could say something.
00:27:11.000 Exactly.
00:27:11.000 So see if you find that.
00:27:13.000 Like, bath salts is meth.
00:27:15.000 Because someone, there was a guy, there was a guy who got a, who's a homeless guy there.
00:27:20.000 I think they shot him.
00:27:21.000 He was biting someone's face off. 0.74
00:27:23.000 In Florida.
00:27:24.000 Yeah, you remember that?
00:27:24.000 Yeah.
00:27:25.000 And they said that he was on bath salts.
00:27:26.000 That's the first time I heard of it.
00:27:28.000 Yeah.
00:27:28.000 And I think someone said that it was meth.
00:27:32.000 Because, like, that cat stuff?
00:27:35.000 Like you were saying, it's both.
00:27:36.000 It's just a bunch of different things.
00:27:37.000 They can call it whatever they want.
00:27:38.000 There's probably some that are made with methadrone.
00:27:40.000 So it is a potpourri.
00:27:42.000 How appropriate.
00:27:43.000 You could basically sell whatever you want if you're selling as not for human consumption.
00:27:48.000 And also, they probably put smell into it so they can say, no, this is bad salt.
00:27:52.000 This is really bad salt. 0.99
00:27:54.000 You know, they probably threw some fucking... 0.99
00:27:56.000 They had like a little cat and mouse game going on for a while where they would have... 0.99
00:27:59.000 The same thing was going on with that K2 spice stuff. 1.00
00:28:03.000 Remember, it was getting sold as illegal weed because it had synthetic...
00:28:06.000 THC, they were spraying all over it and whatnot.
00:28:07.000 That stuff's supposed to be terrible for you, right?
00:28:09.000 Oh, it's awful, yeah.
00:28:10.000 Way worse for you than actual...
00:28:11.000 But they would outlaw one little chemical, and then those guys would figure out, okay, tweak it and make it TH379. Okay, and now next week is 380, and they just would keep doing it every single week, literally.
00:28:22.000 And by the way, that's the same shit that they did with steroids. 0.63
00:28:25.000 With, like, the Clear, when Barry Bonds and all those guys, that Ballco scandal, that's what all that stuff was about. 0.98
00:28:31.000 Oh, they just change the, like, the points after drugs.
00:28:33.000 Lose some stuff around a little, and then it doesn't show up in the test, because it's not the thing you're looking for.
00:28:38.000 The way it's been explained to me is a lot of tests for things are very specific.
00:28:42.000 So when they're testing for something, and it's just a little bit off, it's like, you test negative for it, but it has a similar result or approximate result in a different way.
00:28:53.000 Huh.
00:28:54.000 Yeah.
00:28:54.000 I will say, though, with the bath salts, people were breaking into any place that had them.
00:28:58.000 Hmm.
00:28:59.000 Gas stations, any store that had bath salts, if they think they had them, your windows are being broken, your doors are being broken, you're not going to have that stuff tomorrow.
00:29:07.000 Yeah, those are meth heads.
00:29:09.000 That's meth head activity.
00:29:11.000 Jesus Christ.
00:29:12.000 Did you ever know anybody that was a meth head?
00:29:14.000 No.
00:29:15.000 Yeah, I haven't known a few people.
00:29:18.000 It's weird to see.
00:29:19.000 Because it's so visual, the results.
00:29:21.000 Well, not always.
00:29:22.000 That's what's interesting. 0.96
00:29:23.000 What you're seeing when you see people that are completely fucked up and picking the skin off their face and they weigh five pounds and they're falling apart, that is worst case scenario. 0.99
00:29:34.000 There's some people that I would call functional meth heads. 0.98
00:29:38.000 And what these people are people that are on amphetamines every day, or almost every day.
00:29:43.000 They're constantly on amphetamines, and some of them get prescribed by doctors.
00:29:46.000 They get really irrational.
00:29:48.000 They start thinking that everyone's out to get them.
00:29:50.000 They get real mean and nasty towards other people, very defensive.
00:29:54.000 They're always attacking and thinking they're persecuted, thinking that someone's attacking them.
00:29:59.000 It's very strange.
00:30:00.000 And these people could function like this for years.
00:30:02.000 Years and years.
00:30:03.000 And you get the same with Adderall addicts.
00:30:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:30:06.000 But that's just speed, isn't it?
00:30:07.000 Same thing.
00:30:08.000 It's very similar to meth.
00:30:10.000 It's amphetamines.
00:30:11.000 Right.
00:30:11.000 It's just a different release.
00:30:13.000 Like, what Adderall is...
00:30:14.000 Duncan Trussell has a great joke.
00:30:16.000 He's like as if it was a scientist, took cocaine and went, I can fix this.
00:30:26.000 And it just makes people talkative and aggressive and insulting and mean.
00:30:33.000 And it highlights some of the worst aspects of people. 0.90
00:30:38.000 The bitchy, pettiness. 1.00
00:30:39.000 I love that stuff. 0.96
00:30:41.000 That's my bread and butter.
00:30:42.000 But it's not the way you do it.
00:30:43.000 You do it with a smile.
00:30:44.000 Well, thank you.
00:30:44.000 That's true.
00:30:45.000 Snarky.
00:30:46.000 People need to be having more fun.
00:30:47.000 Yeah.
00:30:48.000 But your positions are always, even if I don't agree with them, they're rational.
00:30:54.000 I see your thought process.
00:30:55.000 I see where you're going.
00:30:56.000 Well, thank you.
00:30:57.000 That's a huge compliment.
00:30:58.000 That's not a meth head.
00:30:59.000 Well, yeah.
00:30:59.000 Meth head is like, what are you saying?
00:31:02.000 The Jews are doing what? 0.99
00:31:03.000 What's happening with the Nazis or what?
00:31:05.000 The big one I get, I interviewed a Nazi for the book and I said to him, I go, look, what am I supposed to do when your people come at me and say, the only reason you care about North Korea and its concentration camps is because they're anti-Israel?
00:31:20.000 And he goes, what do you want me to tell you? 1.00
00:31:22.000 There's idiots in every group. 1.00
00:31:23.000 And I'm like, alright! 1.00
00:31:25.000 Fair answer.
00:31:26.000 Because they're anti-Israel.
00:31:28.000 Jesus Christ.
00:31:29.000 The idea that Israel has to do with North Korea is just absolutely amazing. 1.00
00:31:32.000 But I get that online.
00:31:33.000 People connect to everything.
00:31:35.000 People that are really into nutty conspiracies, there's a network of connections that they follow.
00:31:40.000 And then if you're not talking about it, what they think is the most important issue, you're clearly being dishonest because it's the most important issue.
00:31:46.000 It must be a shill.
00:31:48.000 Michael Myers.
00:31:49.000 Yes.
00:31:49.000 Massad.
00:31:50.000 Spend all that time over there in Korea.
00:31:53.000 Interesting.
00:31:53.000 I did bring up Israel Woods.
00:31:55.000 How's that?
00:31:55.000 For American to be over there in North Korea.
00:31:59.000 Hey, I wanted to talk to you about this.
00:32:00.000 I don't know if you know anything about it.
00:32:01.000 What?
00:32:02.000 Essentially, Google has pulled the plug on Huawei today.
00:32:07.000 Meaning they're no longer allowing Android updates on Huawei phones, and they're not allowing the Google app to work on Huawei phones, or excuse me, the Gmail app to work on Huawei phones.
00:32:20.000 If you had an old Huawei phone with the Gmail app, you're fine.
00:32:23.000 But going forward, no Huawei phones will be allowed to have Gmail anymore.
00:32:29.000 What's the reasoning?
00:32:30.000 It's a very good question.
00:32:32.000 Marcus Brownlee, who Marcus has been on the show before, and he's probably one of my favorite, if not my favorite, tech reviewer on YouTube.
00:32:40.000 He had a point about it.
00:32:42.000 He put it up on his Twitter, and then I followed the feed.
00:32:45.000 He's like, this is very important.
00:32:46.000 I followed the feed.
00:32:48.000 There's tech people that are saying there is no reason for this.
00:32:52.000 There's no evidence.
00:32:53.000 They're not pointing to anything.
00:32:55.000 But then when I talk to people that are experts in foreign policy and they explain the way China works and China's relationship between the government and industry, how they're inexorably connected and every business works for the government, they were saying, no, there's a reason why they're doing this.
00:33:10.000 These guys are playing this real long game and to aid them in any way is extraordinarily bad for our country.
00:33:19.000 Yeah, I had Marion Smith from the Museum of Communism on my show.
00:33:22.000 And since my focus in North Korea, I wasn't that much focused on China.
00:33:25.000 And we all think in the West that China's gotten so much better than it was, which is true. 1.00
00:33:30.000 But he goes, it's still really, really, really bad.
00:33:33.000 And one of the big, I think, fair criticisms of the corporate press is how much they're focused on Putin and Russia.
00:33:39.000 And it's like, you're calling him a dictator. 1.00
00:33:41.000 The shit they're pulling in China... 1.00
00:33:42.000 Is an order of magnitude worse. 1.00
00:33:44.000 And something that they're doing now, they stole from North Korea.
00:33:47.000 North Korea has something called Songbun.
00:33:50.000 And everyone...
00:33:50.000 Songbun?
00:33:51.000 S-O-N-G-B-U-N. Songbun. 1.00
00:33:54.000 Everyone in North Korea got interviewed, and there were several iterations of this, and you got a score based on your family.
00:34:00.000 So if your family was born in South Korea, or a priest or a landowner, that's a low score.
00:34:06.000 If your grandfather fought with the great leader Kim Il-sung, that's a high score.
00:34:11.000 It's divided into favored class, wavering, and hostile.
00:34:14.000 And there's like 51 subcategories.
00:34:16.000 And this determines everything about your life, where you live, where you go to college.
00:34:20.000 And China's now starting to do this. 0.89
00:34:22.000 They're trying to implement a social credit system based on your loyalty to the government, which will allow things like leaving the country and all sorts of other opportunities.
00:34:30.000 And that's scary, scary stuff.
00:34:32.000 And that's what needs to be, I think, covered much more in the West.
00:34:35.000 The problem with that is it becomes like a game and people are going to want to have a really high score.
00:34:39.000 Of course.
00:34:41.000 People are so weird when it comes to scores in games.
00:34:45.000 But you have to have a high score or else you're not getting food or a job.
00:34:49.000 Right, right, right.
00:34:49.000 But it's also like people covet it.
00:34:52.000 Oh, but they don't tell you your score.
00:34:53.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:34:54.000 You have to intimate it.
00:34:55.000 Oh, yeah.
00:34:55.000 That's even scarier.
00:34:56.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:34:56.000 So you got to fly right and just… So you're always nervous.
00:34:59.000 That's what they want.
00:35:00.000 You're always nervous.
00:35:02.000 It's not transparency.
00:35:05.000 Self-censoring as well.
00:35:06.000 Yes.
00:35:07.000 Right?
00:35:07.000 It forces a system of self-censoring like Twitter.
00:35:11.000 Yes.
00:35:11.000 Oh.
00:35:12.000 Are you saying that Twitter is like China?
00:35:14.000 Did you say that?
00:35:16.000 Twitter is like communism?
00:35:17.000 In those words, yes.
00:35:19.000 No, we got our ways to go for communism.
00:35:21.000 Some of the techniques they use are very disturbingly totalitarian.
00:35:24.000 Yes, disturbingly so.
00:35:25.000 And the other thing is, yes, they are a private company.
00:35:27.000 It's funny how the left is like, as soon as you criticize Twitter, they're a private company, they can do what they want, but any other private company, whatever.
00:35:33.000 A private company can be criticized.
00:35:36.000 And we're perfectly appropriate in a free market to say, what you're doing is screwed up, and give us answers, or we're going to use another company.
00:35:44.000 I think when I talked to Jack about this, one of the things that he was saying is that they're considering an open Twitter.
00:35:49.000 Like, they're going to have Twitter where it's like a safe neighborhood, and Twitter where it's like the Wild West.
00:35:54.000 Okay.
00:35:55.000 And I said, please do that.
00:35:56.000 Yeah.
00:35:56.000 I said, please do that.
00:35:57.000 I mean, there's ways to block people.
00:36:00.000 There's ways to avoid people.
00:36:01.000 I block people liberally.
00:36:02.000 You know what's weird, though?
00:36:03.000 Block lists.
00:36:04.000 When you haven't even had an interaction with someone.
00:36:06.000 It's like a blacklist.
00:36:07.000 Yeah.
00:36:07.000 And you go to their page and they're blocked.
00:36:09.000 You're just blocked.
00:36:10.000 Just blocked for no reason.
00:36:12.000 People have block lists for anyone who follows President Trump.
00:36:15.000 Yes. 0.99
00:36:15.000 And it's like, if I'm a journalist, I sure as hell better be following the fucking president to know what he's saying. 0.99
00:36:20.000 First of all, he says hilarious shit. 1.00
00:36:22.000 Yes. 1.00
00:36:22.000 On the reg. 1.00
00:36:23.000 Look, he does.
00:36:24.000 What's your favorite Trump tweet?
00:36:26.000 Rocketman, when he was calling...
00:36:28.000 My favorite one, hold on.
00:36:30.000 Kim Jong-un, Rocketman.
00:36:31.000 What's the one about the haters and the losers?
00:36:34.000 Yes, that's a great one, but he did that before he was president.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, but it's still my favorite Trump tweet by far.
00:36:40.000 Oh yeah, every time I speak of the haters and losers, I do so with great love and affection. 1.00
00:36:45.000 They cannot help the fact that they were born fucked up. 0.99
00:36:48.000 I would like if he said that now as president. 1.00
00:36:51.000 I know.
00:36:51.000 That's one thing he's really done a great job as president, not swearing.
00:36:55.000 Yeah.
00:36:56.000 It's amazing.
00:36:56.000 Well, did you see what CNN did to him?
00:36:58.000 During the campaign, he said, boy, that's really up.
00:37:02.000 So he didn't say it.
00:37:03.000 They played the clip and they bleeped him.
00:37:05.000 Yes, we talked about this before.
00:37:07.000 Yeah, it's very dishonest.
00:37:08.000 Yeah.
00:37:09.000 They bleeped it to make it look like he said something that he didn't.
00:37:13.000 But he's cursing a blue streak in the White House anyway.
00:37:15.000 We all know this.
00:37:16.000 But it's funny.
00:37:17.000 I like it.
00:37:18.000 I think that part is funny.
00:37:19.000 Like, I'm not happy with a lot of what's going on. 0.99
00:37:22.000 But I'm very happy that he's this ridiculous person. 0.99
00:37:25.000 Because it's funny. 0.99
00:37:26.000 And I think it's very healthy...
00:37:28.000 For us to have less reverence for the president.
00:37:31.000 Because when a president's on a pedestal, he's in a position to send our sons and daughters to die.
00:37:36.000 Whereas if you look at him as a clown, you're going to be much less, more skeptical of, is this man going to war for the right reasons?
00:37:43.000 Is he doing these things for the right reasons?
00:37:45.000 And I think that's very, and that's what the founding fathers wanted too.
00:37:47.000 They didn't want the president to be looked at as a god.
00:37:50.000 Yeah, that's an interesting point.
00:37:52.000 I think you're correct, and I think this idea that it's behavior unfitting for a president, that's what we're thinking, that a president is a special person, a special job, and they'll act accordingly like a gentleman, and they're human beings. 1.00
00:38:04.000 It's a stupid job. 1.00
00:38:05.000 It's a ridiculous job for anyone. 1.00
00:38:07.000 And you saw Biden went after Trump and says, oh, being presidential is always... 1.00
00:38:10.000 Yeah, by definition, he's always being presidential, because he's the fucking president, and you're not. 0.99
00:38:15.000 Well, Biden's a weird guy, man. 0.99
00:38:17.000 Do you see all those videos of him sniffing all his kids?
00:38:19.000 Ugh...
00:38:20.000 What is that about?
00:38:21.000 I mean, it could just be a sweet old grandpa. 1.00
00:38:24.000 Some sweet old grandpas don't want to fuck kids. 1.00
00:38:26.000 They do do that. 1.00
00:38:27.000 The thing is, it would, in a sense, make more sense to people if he was just, like, handsy.
00:38:34.000 Right? 1.00
00:38:34.000 It's like, okay, you're an old pervert. 1.00
00:38:35.000 This is like, I don't even know where to put this. 0.99
00:38:37.000 Right, where do you put sniffing?
00:38:39.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:38:40.000 It's a fucking weird thing. 0.98
00:38:42.000 He's just a weird guy. 0.99
00:38:44.000 Did you know about the plagiarism from back when he was running for president?
00:38:49.000 So he ran three times. 1.00
00:38:50.000 I think he's fucked in the primary because his track record is pathetic. 0.99
00:38:54.000 So the first time he ran was in 88 cycle, right? 0.99
00:38:56.000 He announces in July he has to fold by September because of this plagiarism scandal, right?
00:39:01.000 He runs again in 08, comes in like, what, sixth in Iowa, has to pull.
00:39:06.000 So in terms of his history of running for presidency, it's been very, very poor.
00:39:10.000 Yeah.
00:39:10.000 He's a good backup, man.
00:39:12.000 Right, right.
00:39:12.000 He's a steady, reliable result, yeah.
00:39:14.000 You should stay the fuck out. 1.00
00:39:16.000 They're going to eat him alive. 1.00
00:39:17.000 It's ugly. 1.00
00:39:18.000 It's going to be ugly.
00:39:19.000 You're going to hate it, bro, and you're not going to win.
00:39:21.000 I don't think he's going to win.
00:39:22.000 But he's the frontrunner, and you look at the Democratic polls in terms of the Democrats.
00:39:26.000 You know who was the frontrunner at this point in 2003?
00:39:28.000 Who?
00:39:29.000 Joe Lieberman.
00:39:30.000 Because he was the vice president of Canada from Gore.
00:39:33.000 Everyone knew his name.
00:39:34.000 What happened with that guy?
00:39:35.000 He lost.
00:39:36.000 But where'd he go?
00:39:37.000 He went right, didn't he?
00:39:38.000 He lost the primary in his state of Connecticut.
00:39:42.000 Then he ran as an independent Democrat, won again, re-elected.
00:39:46.000 He killed universal health care because they needed 60 votes. 1.00
00:39:50.000 And he's like, fuck you, we're not doing it. 0.99
00:39:52.000 So they had to have this Obamacare market system. 1.00
00:39:54.000 It was because of him.
00:39:55.000 And now everyone hates him.
00:39:57.000 Didn't he turn into a Republican, though?
00:39:59.000 No, no.
00:39:59.000 But he endorsed...
00:40:00.000 He became a Nazi. 0.80
00:40:03.000 Joe Lieberman and Ben Shapiro are the new Nazis.
00:40:07.000 The new Nazis. 0.96
00:40:08.000 The new right.
00:40:10.000 Yeah, the fact that he gets called one. 1.00
00:40:13.000 That's the funniest shit ever. 0.99
00:40:14.000 While he's wearing a yarmulke, people are calling him a Nazi. 1.00
00:40:17.000 You'd never suspect it.
00:40:18.000 Yeah, it's sneaky.
00:40:20.000 We're sneaky.
00:40:23.000 I just think if we had to design a system from scratch...
00:40:27.000 There's no way we'd have one person at the top of the pyramid.
00:40:30.000 Right.
00:40:31.000 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:40:31.000 And does it need to be a pyramid?
00:40:33.000 Yeah.
00:40:33.000 It doesn't.
00:40:34.000 It could be a series of silos.
00:40:36.000 Yeah.
00:40:37.000 There's no reason.
00:40:38.000 I mean, I guess the good thing would be that person can veto stuff and get things done.
00:40:44.000 Sure.
00:40:44.000 So if there is some sort of a...
00:40:45.000 If he's a reasonable person and he really works well with others and doesn't abuse that power...
00:40:51.000 One thing he has done, though, is, I mean, it's going to sound ridiculous, but when he has Kim Kardashian bring in cases of people that were unjustly prosecuted or unjustly imprisoned, and he releases them, I like that.
00:41:06.000 I like that she does it, and I like that he does it.
00:41:08.000 It takes a lot for me to get angry. 0.97
00:41:10.000 But when people were clowning them, and I'm like, Kim Kardashian, you can say a lot of shit about her, she saved people's lives. 0.98
00:41:17.000 She's helping people in a tremendous way. 0.98
00:41:19.000 You're going to tell those families that it's Kim Kardashian? 1.00
00:41:23.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:41:23.000 She's helped 17 people be released from prison in the last three months. 1.00
00:41:27.000 And I think it's also very disturbing how glib a lot of people are about prison.
00:41:32.000 And it's a really – I don't know what it's like and I don't want to know what it's like.
00:41:36.000 It's no joke.
00:41:38.000 But it is a punchline.
00:41:40.000 And it's like you're laughing about people being traumatized for life and possibly having no possibility of returning to society.
00:41:48.000 People used to be able to laugh about stuff like that because it would be like laughing at it at work.
00:41:53.000 You know, like you go to work and you're like, hey, OJ's in the can.
00:41:56.000 He's going to take it in the can. 0.99
00:41:58.000 You would go to work and you'd say something stupid like that and it wouldn't go anywhere. 1.00
00:42:02.000 But when you say something like that on Twitter or Facebook, like, oh, boy. 1.00
00:42:06.000 Remember, I mean, people find out.
00:42:09.000 You say the inappropriate thing.
00:42:10.000 Remember that with Justine Sacco?
00:42:12.000 Oh, of course.
00:42:13.000 I was flying here for this show and someone tweeted at me, hashtag has malice landed yet?
00:42:18.000 Because that was the hashtag for her.
00:42:21.000 Oh, yeah.
00:42:21.000 Because she tweeted out a joke.
00:42:22.000 She gets on a flight.
00:42:23.000 Yeah.
00:42:24.000 And it blew up while she was on the flight.
00:42:26.000 Right.
00:42:26.000 And when she lands, her life is upside down, backwards, inside out.
00:42:30.000 For a dumb joke. 0.99
00:42:31.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:42:32.000 That dumb joke could have been something that she would just say. 0.92
00:42:34.000 And then the next day, you're like... 1.00
00:42:36.000 What the fuck is wrong with me? 0.99
00:42:37.000 I was on Ambien and alcohol and trying to be funny. 0.99
00:42:40.000 And that is something that the evangelical left is very scary about.
00:42:45.000 If you take a joke that's inappropriate in some sense, and they're the ones judging it's inappropriate, your life should be ruined. 0.97
00:42:52.000 That is crazy and totalitarian. 0.72
00:42:56.000 Yeah.
00:42:57.000 It's also...
00:42:58.000 It smacks of...
00:43:01.000 Deep insecurity and fear that you experience personally, and you want to turn it on other people.
00:43:06.000 The same feeling that people have when they're bullies.
00:43:08.000 The reason why someone's a bully is almost always because they're not confident of their own abilities, so they want to somehow or another, by being cruel to someone else, they exercise this power on someone else, and it's somehow or another Relieves them of a certain portion of this inadequacy that they feel,
00:43:26.000 the stress they feel.
00:43:27.000 It's one of the reasons why a lot of people are saying that bullies, contrary to what would be a logical thing, you should teach them how to fight.
00:43:36.000 They wouldn't want to do this.
00:43:38.000 The reason why they're doing this to people is because they're insecure.
00:43:41.000 That's the same thing, I think, when you see these Twitter mobs and people attacking people.
00:43:45.000 The thing they fear most is that they're going to be attacked themselves.
00:43:50.000 They fear social ostracization.
00:43:54.000 They fear that.
00:43:55.000 They fear being standing up on their own two feet and being an individual.
00:43:58.000 And I have a whole chapter on dark humor in this book.
00:44:01.000 And I'm shocked that they let me publish it because Bonnie McFarlane, great comedian, I love Bonnie.
00:44:07.000 She was roasting Jim Norton and she says to him, your show is so unlistenable, I'd rather hear my daughter drowning.
00:44:13.000 And it's like, are you going to – let's break this down.
00:44:17.000 Are you going to tell her as a comedian or as a mom that that's not appropriate?
00:44:21.000 Oh, she's so funny.
00:44:22.000 They only made me cut one joke.
00:44:23.000 I have everything else in there.
00:44:24.000 And the point I make is something might not be funny for you if you're an assault victim.
00:44:28.000 Right?
00:44:29.000 You don't want to kind of...
00:44:30.000 That's fine.
00:44:31.000 But it's not...
00:44:32.000 And if something's not for you, it doesn't mean it's not for anyone.
00:44:34.000 What is The New Right?
00:44:36.000 This is the title of your book.
00:44:38.000 Yeah.
00:44:38.000 A Journey to the Fringe of American Politics.
00:44:41.000 Yeah.
00:44:41.000 What inspired you to do this?
00:44:43.000 So...
00:44:44.000 The circles I was swimming in started going into developing into the scene as it was happening that culminated in like the Trump presidency in Charlottesville.
00:44:52.000 So I was there as this was happening.
00:44:54.000 What circles are we discussing?
00:44:56.000 This kind of the anarchist circles, what they call race realism, the racist, you know, the alt-right.
00:45:03.000 And seeing a lot of it happening, this being discussed in the press and people not knowing what they're talking about, I'm like, alright, someone's got to write this book who's been there and understands it.
00:45:12.000 How do you understand it?
00:45:14.000 What about it?
00:45:16.000 The race realists? 0.82
00:45:17.000 One of the points I make is, this is not one scene where everyone's in agreement.
00:45:22.000 These people often completely hate each other and disagree.
00:45:26.000 The only thing that unites them is their opposition to progressivism.
00:45:29.000 And this is you looking at this as a journalist.
00:45:32.000 Sure, yeah.
00:45:33.000 But the way you're saying it is like you're a part of these groups.
00:45:35.000 Well, I'm like, all right, I went to all the meetings.
00:45:38.000 I go to Charlottesville.
00:45:40.000 I interviewed all the types.
00:45:42.000 And it's what their points of view are.
00:45:46.000 And if you're going to engage with this kind of thinking, which is somewhat prevalent on the fringes, you have to at least understand where they're coming from.
00:45:54.000 And being dismissive gives a power.
00:45:55.000 I understand that.
00:45:55.000 For sure, but what I want to say is because I don't want people to misconstrue you.
00:45:59.000 So someone could listen to this and inadvertently misconstrue or purposely misconstrue and think that you're a part of these groups.
00:46:07.000 Oh, no, no.
00:46:08.000 So it's very clear in this book who I agree with and who I don't.
00:46:10.000 In the book.
00:46:11.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:46:12.000 Yeah, in the book, but...
00:46:13.000 The way we're discussing it in this conversation, you're saying the circles that you run in.
00:46:17.000 Yeah, because a lot of the people who I was friends with fell down this rabbit hole.
00:46:20.000 They fell down the rabbit hole of racism?
00:46:23.000 Nazism, racism, yes.
00:46:25.000 Who that you were friends with fell down?
00:46:27.000 I'm not naming.
00:46:27.000 You don't want to say anything.
00:46:28.000 Yeah.
00:46:28.000 Yeah, and it was very disturbing.
00:46:30.000 But you knew them in real life?
00:46:30.000 Correct.
00:46:31.000 Wow.
00:46:32.000 And it was very disturbing to watch as they start throwing out terms like HBD, NRX. What is that?
00:46:37.000 Human biodiversity.
00:46:38.000 That's their code word for different races, right?
00:46:41.000 Human biodiversity is the code word for different races?
00:46:45.000 Yes.
00:46:45.000 And what's the other one?
00:46:46.000 HBX? And NRX. NRX? Neoreaction.
00:46:50.000 So this is basically, America is this decadent, why my republic, and we need to return to, like, hardcore...
00:46:57.000 Nero reaction? 0.81
00:46:58.000 Neo.
00:46:58.000 Neo, okay.
00:46:59.000 Neo reaction.
00:46:59.000 Neo reaction.
00:47:00.000 That was the hashtag before it was the alt-right.
00:47:02.000 It's not the same, but they're similar enough.
00:47:04.000 So, and a lot of these guys are really cerebral.
00:47:08.000 You know, they could tell you about the history of England, they could tell you about, you know, all the science and stuff.
00:47:12.000 So what went wrong?
00:47:14.000 With whom?
00:47:15.000 With them.
00:47:16.000 I don't know what went wrong.
00:47:18.000 I think one of the things that goes wrong is when no one's talking to you and you're just talking to each other, you're going to start doubling down because there's no one hitting the brakes.
00:47:26.000 You know what else happens?
00:47:27.000 What?
00:47:28.000 You say controversial things, people attack you, and then some people don't attack you.
00:47:32.000 They support you.
00:47:33.000 And then you gravitate towards those people that support you.
00:47:36.000 Right, and then you get that endorphin rush.
00:47:38.000 You get the light, yes.
00:47:39.000 You start seeing that with people, and they start embracing really weird fringe ideas.
00:47:43.000 They become a part of these fringe groups, and they get praised by these fringe groups, and then they elevate to virtue signal for that fringe group.
00:47:50.000 And so you could be either an average person in the mass, or you could be a leader in the fringe.
00:47:56.000 So it's big fish in a small pond.
00:47:58.000 And you could be one of those who knows.
00:48:00.000 One of those who knows. 0.99
00:48:01.000 People know what the fuck is going on. 0.99
00:48:03.000 You're not going to get me with this scam. 0.99
00:48:05.000 So my line is, you take one red pill, but not the whole bottle.
00:48:09.000 You take the Adderall, bro.
00:48:10.000 That's what you take. 1.00
00:48:11.000 Take that fucking Adderall. 1.00
00:48:13.000 No one's going to... 1.00
00:48:13.000 I know what's happening. 1.00
00:48:15.000 You start stashing weapons in your backyard.
00:48:18.000 You start prepping.
00:48:19.000 Yeah.
00:48:20.000 Yeah.
00:48:20.000 So it's an interesting...
00:48:22.000 And there's also a long history of this stuff.
00:48:24.000 So how did you know those guys in real life?
00:48:26.000 Did you know them from work?
00:48:27.000 I knew them from anarchist circles.
00:48:30.000 So this anarchy thing, how serious are you about that?
00:48:34.000 100% serious.
00:48:36.000 100% serious.
00:48:37.000 So anarchists think there should be no cops?
00:48:39.000 No, anarchists don't think there should be government cops.
00:48:42.000 There should be private security.
00:48:43.000 Oh, private security.
00:48:44.000 What if you're poor?
00:48:45.000 Well, same thing.
00:48:47.000 No one wants to have a scenario.
00:48:50.000 Like, if you go to a bar, you're not paying for the doorman.
00:48:52.000 Or if you're going to a hotel, you're not paying for the security.
00:48:55.000 The point is, whoever has an environment wants it to be as safe as possible.
00:48:59.000 Okay, stop right there.
00:48:59.000 Okay.
00:49:00.000 Because if you're going to a bar, if you're buying a drink, the bar is taking some of the money from that drink to pay for that security.
00:49:07.000 Correct.
00:49:07.000 It's the same thing as you paying taxes.
00:49:09.000 It's not the same thing as you paying taxes.
00:49:10.000 Well, let's just look at it this way.
00:49:11.000 It's just money into a pool, right?
00:49:13.000 It's not just money- Okay, but hold, hold, please.
00:49:15.000 If you throw the money into a pool, but you didn't even let me explain.
00:49:18.000 If you throw the money into the pool, and obviously taxes get taken from you, it's different in that regard.
00:49:24.000 But if you have a certain amount of money, a certain amount of money is going to go to protecting the people.
00:49:29.000 And this is the idea of police force, and this is the idea of a bouncer.
00:49:32.000 Or at least a bouncer is more likely acting in the interest of the club, and trying to keep out bad people, and trying to keep people from getting sued.
00:49:40.000 But the money for the drinks goes to that.
00:49:42.000 A percentage of it goes to that.
00:49:43.000 Much like your tax money, some of it goes to the cops, right?
00:49:47.000 Correct.
00:49:47.000 But the big difference is one is voluntary and one is forceful and one is a monopoly and one isn't.
00:49:55.000 So if you had a free system, you would have more security because the streets would have someone doing security and the bar.
00:50:03.000 And the store, and they would be complimentary to each other as opposed to you only have to dial 911. Look how many dating sites there are, right?
00:50:11.000 Wouldn't it be great if instead of one number, you had dozens of places that are going to offer you security?
00:50:17.000 So like private businesses that work like Uber, you give them a call when you're getting raped?
00:50:22.000 Like you press a button?
00:50:23.000 Sure.
00:50:24.000 One with a dude with his pants down, you press a button, and then someone shows up?
00:50:27.000 We have that now.
00:50:28.000 What do we have now?
00:50:29.000 I mean, if you go to an apartment building or a business building, there is going to be security there already.
00:50:36.000 You're not going to call the cop.
00:50:37.000 You're going to call the downstairs.
00:50:38.000 Most of those people are just book readers.
00:50:39.000 Sure.
00:50:40.000 They're sitting there playing with their phone.
00:50:41.000 They used to be book readers.
00:50:42.000 Now they're phone players.
00:50:43.000 Well, I'd rather they be reading books than shooting dogs.
00:50:45.000 So that's where we are.
00:50:46.000 Right.
00:50:47.000 I see what you're saying. 1.00
00:50:48.000 That's the grossest shit ever when you see SWAT teams show up and shoot people's dogs. 1.00
00:50:53.000 And that's the problem with having a monopoly is there's no consequences. 1.00
00:50:57.000 Yes.
00:50:58.000 So there's all these cases where dogs get shot, the flash grenade in the baby's crib.
00:51:03.000 These people aren't fighting.
00:51:04.000 Like Eric Garner.
00:51:05.000 The only person who got in trouble for Eric Garner dying is the guy who filmed it.
00:51:09.000 I mean, if you are a cook...
00:51:12.000 And you are serving food and you undercook chicken.
00:51:15.000 It's a mistake, honest mistake.
00:51:16.000 And someone gets sick.
00:51:18.000 That shouldn't be your job.
00:51:19.000 But if you're a police officer often, and I'm going to get a lot of heat for this and that's fine.
00:51:24.000 If something bad happens as a consequence of your actions, there have to be consequences that maybe this isn't the right job for you.
00:51:31.000 Sure.
00:51:51.000 I'm a big supporter of police.
00:51:52.000 I just don't think that it's a job for everybody.
00:51:55.000 I think being a cop is like a lot of other jobs, especially that one. 0.97
00:51:59.000 That's super fucking difficult. 0.83
00:52:00.000 The idea that you just hire people off the street and run them through some tests and they're going to make great cops. 0.98
00:52:05.000 I agree.
00:52:06.000 It's crazy.
00:52:06.000 I agree.
00:52:07.000 And what happens is when you're a monopoly, you don't have to be efficient or effective.
00:52:10.000 I think they should hire a former military.
00:52:12.000 That's what I think.
00:52:14.000 Have a police state.
00:52:15.000 No, hire people that have discipline.
00:52:17.000 Hire people that have gone through some experience in actual combat, who know how to handle pressure better, and then make it a very, very valuable job and make it a very strict codes of conduct and behavior and action.
00:52:35.000 I think another problem that police have in their defense is when you have public streets.
00:52:41.000 People have certain rights, and they can act everywhere.
00:52:43.000 Like here in LA, you have all these people with these tents.
00:52:45.000 And my understanding is the government said you can't clear out those tents.
00:52:48.000 That is hilarious, isn't it?
00:52:49.000 And now the cops can't do anything.
00:52:51.000 So they are hamstrung from being able to do their jobs, whereas if this was private, this would not be happening. 0.98
00:52:55.000 Well, if you go under underpasses in LA, folks, I don't know where you live, but there's a fucking campground. 0.97
00:53:00.000 Literally, they have tents. 0.98
00:53:01.000 Yeah, everywhere.
00:53:03.000 I didn't know Skid Row was an actual place.
00:53:05.000 Oh, you didn't know?
00:53:05.000 I went there last time I was here, and the whole block is covered in tents.
00:53:09.000 Oh, it was unbelievable.
00:53:10.000 People who don't know, I love to take them to Skid Row.
00:53:13.000 It's just amazing.
00:53:14.000 Downtown LA is insane.
00:53:16.000 Like, you go there and you're like, what is this?
00:53:18.000 Well, what this is is failure.
00:53:20.000 This is failure.
00:53:21.000 I mean, cultural failure.
00:53:23.000 Failure to address these members of our community.
00:53:26.000 Failure to provide health care.
00:53:28.000 Failure to raise children correctly.
00:53:30.000 Failure to keep people from drugs.
00:53:32.000 Failure to provide good systems to get them off of drugs.
00:53:35.000 It started in New York, too.
00:53:36.000 De Blasio, who's a real charmer, that one.
00:53:38.000 Like, now, you go on every subway train, there's a homeless person with all their bags.
00:53:43.000 And there's got to be better alternatives than that, even for them.
00:53:47.000 Well, there's somewhat...
00:53:48.000 Oh, Donald Trump Jr. posted videos all over the news the other day when he was talking about De Blasio.
00:53:53.000 And he's like, I'm driving here.
00:53:55.000 This is out my window.
00:53:56.000 I'm filming.
00:53:57.000 Look at all these tents. 1.00
00:53:59.000 Look at all this homeless shit. 0.99
00:54:00.000 He started following me on Twitter, and now I live in fear of saying the wrong thing. 1.00
00:54:05.000 Why?
00:54:06.000 I don't know. 0.99
00:54:07.000 It's just like, holy shit. 0.99
00:54:08.000 Because North Korea is my biggest issue, by far. 1.00
00:54:10.000 Right?
00:54:10.000 By far.
00:54:11.000 But what are you in fear of?
00:54:12.000 Getting unfollowed.
00:54:13.000 By Donald Trump Jr.?
00:54:14.000 Yeah.
00:54:15.000 He ain't gonna unfollow you.
00:54:16.000 Well, he better not.
00:54:17.000 No.
00:54:18.000 I have friends that are friends with him.
00:54:20.000 Okay.
00:54:20.000 Like, good friends.
00:54:22.000 Like, my good friends, and they're good friends with him.
00:54:25.000 Okay, I'll slide into his...
00:54:26.000 They like him.
00:54:26.000 They say he's a good guy.
00:54:27.000 I'll slide into his DMs.
00:54:29.000 Do it.
00:54:30.000 He's just in a weird position, man.
00:54:32.000 If he wasn't the president's son, he wouldn't be under so much scrutiny.
00:54:36.000 He'd be like, oh, he's a great guy.
00:54:37.000 Okay.
00:54:37.000 It's like everybody's just like, ah, you're the president's son.
00:54:40.000 But it's weird for me, given that that was my beat, that I'm like one step away from being able to influence policy on that issue, which is the most important thing to me.
00:54:47.000 Well, I get it, yeah.
00:54:49.000 What would you tell him about North Korea?
00:54:51.000 I mean, I wouldn't even know where to start.
00:54:53.000 I think I'd have a lot of information about helping with the psychology.
00:54:57.000 How to kind of influence them, how to basically manipulate them.
00:55:02.000 Also how evil they truly, really and truly are.
00:55:06.000 And always to keep that in mind.
00:55:08.000 So it's a dance.
00:55:09.000 It's a very delicate dance with them.
00:55:12.000 Do you think he's going to get in trouble with Russia?
00:55:14.000 Who?
00:55:15.000 Which one?
00:55:15.000 Donald Trump Jr. No.
00:55:17.000 You think he will?
00:55:17.000 I don't know.
00:55:18.000 I don't think so.
00:55:19.000 You don't think so?
00:55:19.000 No.
00:55:20.000 You don't think anybody's – you think it's over?
00:55:21.000 I don't think it's over.
00:55:22.000 It's not – I don't think it's over because people – after three years of reporting, now you can say with a straight face, what?
00:55:28.000 There were three years of reporting over nothing?
00:55:30.000 If there's smoke, there's fire, blah, blah, blah.
00:55:31.000 So I haven't been following it that closely.
00:55:34.000 I saw Justin Amash just tweeted out that – he had this whole tweet storm that he thinks Trump should be impeached based on – Who is that?
00:55:41.000 Justin Amash is a congressman from Michigan.
00:55:44.000 He's one of like three libertarians.
00:55:47.000 And he turned.
00:55:49.000 He's like, I actually read the report, which most people have not in Washington.
00:55:52.000 It's 800 pages, right?
00:55:53.000 Is it?
00:55:54.000 Yeah.
00:55:54.000 And he's like, I think there's stuff in here that's impeachable.
00:55:58.000 This was a big deal.
00:55:59.000 And then all the left were like, even Republicans like Justin Amash is like, no, no, it's just him.
00:56:04.000 There's no like.
00:56:05.000 It's him.
00:56:05.000 It's literally just him.
00:56:07.000 Like him.
00:56:07.000 Yeah.
00:56:08.000 There's only two like him.
00:56:09.000 The people that like him.
00:56:10.000 It's Thomas Massey and Mike Lee.
00:56:11.000 That's the three of them.
00:56:12.000 And Rand Paul, four.
00:56:13.000 Rand Paul's an interesting cat.
00:56:15.000 I like him. 0.99
00:56:16.000 Well, I want to talk to his neighbor that fucked him up. 0.98
00:56:21.000 What's that about? 1.00
00:56:21.000 That's such a bitch move, doesn't it? 1.00
00:56:23.000 Such a bitch move. 1.00
00:56:23.000 That is such a bitch move. 1.00
00:56:24.000 Tackled him when he wasn't even looking. 1.00
00:56:25.000 I know.
00:56:26.000 Yeah, I think he had earphones on, too. 1.00
00:56:29.000 I'm not sitting here like some badass, but come on, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99
00:56:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:56:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:56:34.000 How about that guy that kicked Arnold Schwarzenegger yesterday?
00:56:36.000 Oh yeah, what was that about?
00:56:37.000 He kicked, this kid dropped, kicked Arnold Schwarzenegger. 0.98
00:56:39.000 I think he was crazy. 0.99
00:56:40.000 South African. 0.94
00:56:41.000 Because he was saying, he was screaming out, help me, I need a Lamborghini, while they were arresting him.
00:56:48.000 Bath salts.
00:56:48.000 It was the bath salts.
00:56:50.000 Nah, it's world star hip hop.
00:56:51.000 He made it.
00:56:52.000 He's on.
00:56:53.000 Look.
00:56:53.000 I mean, if that's what he wants, look.
00:56:55.000 What really happened to Arnold?
00:56:57.000 Nothing.
00:56:57.000 What's really going to happen to that kid?
00:57:00.000 Probably go to jail for a couple...
00:57:01.000 Actually, I don't know.
00:57:02.000 You don't know.
00:57:02.000 South Africa.
00:57:03.000 Look at Otto Wambier in North Korea.
00:57:06.000 He steals a sign and then he's dead.
00:57:08.000 We don't know what the law is like in South Africa.
00:57:10.000 I think...
00:57:12.000 It's not as bad as North Korea. 0.99
00:57:14.000 It's not as bad as North Korea. 0.99
00:57:16.000 Come on. 1.00
00:57:16.000 His security guard fucked him up pretty well. 1.00
00:57:18.000 Did they? 0.99
00:57:18.000 I mean, it looked like it. 0.99
00:57:19.000 Yeah.
00:57:20.000 Listen, if you're dropkicking people out of nowhere, that's a problem.
00:57:24.000 When I was talking to Eddie Izzard, Eddie ran a bunch of marathons in South Africa.
00:57:30.000 It was to...
00:57:32.000 It was the designation.
00:57:34.000 It was the same number as the amount of years that Nelson Mandel was in prison.
00:57:38.000 So it was 27. So he ran 27 marathons.
00:57:42.000 But there was areas where they're like, listen, man, you ain't running through here.
00:57:46.000 Like, this is this area you want to go to.
00:57:47.000 We're going to take you.
00:57:48.000 We're going to put you in a car. 0.99
00:57:49.000 We're going to drive you way the fuck past here. 0.99
00:57:51.000 And then you keep running. 0.99
00:57:52.000 But you're not running through here. 0.98
00:57:54.000 You'll get killed. 0.68
00:57:54.000 You'll get robbed. 0.68
00:57:55.000 You'll get carjacked. 0.99
00:57:56.000 We're all going to get shot. 0.99
00:57:58.000 You're not going through here.
00:57:59.000 And that's, you know, there's parts of the world that are like that.
00:58:04.000 And Arnold Schwarzenegger, when he visited South Africa, what's the worst?
00:58:08.000 He got drop-kicked with poor technique, okay?
00:58:11.000 I want to say the kid had no follow-through.
00:58:12.000 Right, right.
00:58:13.000 Barely knocked a 71-year...
00:58:14.000 First of all, even though Arnold Schwarzenegger is 71 years old, he's still a 71-year-old Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:58:20.000 Yeah, of course.
00:58:20.000 He's still a tank.
00:58:21.000 Yeah.
00:58:22.000 But he didn't even fall over.
00:58:24.000 Kid dropkicks him.
00:58:25.000 He didn't even know it was coming.
00:58:26.000 He gets hit in the middle of his back and he just...
00:58:29.000 And he's fine.
00:58:33.000 It's kind of impressive.
00:58:35.000 I got your present.
00:58:36.000 You do?
00:58:36.000 What do you got?
00:58:37.000 Ready?
00:58:38.000 Okay.
00:58:38.000 What do you like best about me?
00:58:41.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.98
00:58:42.000 I got this. 0.99
00:58:43.000 This is the most Joe Rogan thing.
00:58:44.000 That's like a thing a girl says to you right when she's about to trap you. 1.00
00:58:47.000 What?
00:58:48.000 I like your personality.
00:58:50.000 I like everything.
00:58:52.000 This is the most Joe Rogan thing I've ever found.
00:58:54.000 What is it?
00:58:55.000 Here you go.
00:58:55.000 What do we got here?
00:58:56.000 Take it.
00:58:58.000 Whoa.
00:59:00.000 What is that?
00:59:01.000 It's a mini museum.
00:59:03.000 So it's got 29 different things from all over the universe encased in lucite.
00:59:08.000 Wow. 0.99
00:59:08.000 That is fucking dope, dude. 0.99
00:59:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:59:12.000 Wow.
00:59:13.000 It's got a piece of the White House, a piece of the Hollywood sign, some Amazon water, a giant sloth claw, I think.
00:59:20.000 Wow.
00:59:22.000 Thank you.
00:59:23.000 You are welcome. 0.97
00:59:24.000 Dude, that'll go right fucking here. 0.98
00:59:26.000 Yeah, here's the book that tells everything about it. 0.98
00:59:28.000 Ooh, thank you.
00:59:29.000 Very cool.
00:59:31.000 Where'd you find this?
00:59:32.000 I went on one of my rabbit holes on the internet. 0.97
00:59:34.000 And I'm like, holy shit, this will be perfect, Joe. 0.99
00:59:37.000 Internet rabbit holes. 1.00
00:59:39.000 Oh, that's dope, dude.
00:59:40.000 Thank you very much.
00:59:43.000 You have to build a bag.
00:59:44.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:45.000 Oh, there's a bag for it.
00:59:46.000 A velvet bag.
00:59:47.000 I feel like I need to have it out, though.
00:59:49.000 It's nice.
00:59:50.000 I'll just build the bag right here.
00:59:51.000 I got mine on display.
00:59:52.000 The desk is so cluttered. 0.88
00:59:54.000 This is ridiculous. 0.97
00:59:54.000 Everybody keep saying it. 0.97
00:59:55.000 I'm going to clean it up.
00:59:57.000 It's not going to happen.
00:59:58.000 Yeah.
00:59:59.000 So tell me more about your book.
01:00:01.000 Why are you breaking these buildings?
01:00:05.000 So that's a dog whistle.
01:00:06.000 That's a dog whistle.
01:00:07.000 The cover.
01:00:07.000 So there's a guy named Ben Garrison, and he was a regular conservative artist, right?
01:00:13.000 And he would have drawings about like Ben Bernanke or Hillary or whatever.
01:00:16.000 The Nazis took his art, replaced all of his drawings with Jews. 1.00
01:00:22.000 So instead of the great wizard of debt being the Fed, it was a Jewish caricature. 1.00
01:00:26.000 And they did it perfectly.
01:00:27.000 And they also invented this whole backstory about him, that he was this classic Nazi. 0.74
01:00:32.000 And this poor guy in Montana, if you Google him, it's like Nazi.
01:00:35.000 And he's like, why is this happening to me?
01:00:37.000 And the Photoshop work was perfect.
01:00:38.000 So eventually they calmed down, and now he's kind of like a regular cartoonist, and the story got out, but that's his artwork.
01:00:45.000 So the people, this poor guy who was, talk about a victim of Nazis.
01:00:48.000 It's very rare nowadays to have a new victim of Nazis, and he's actually one of them. 0.99
01:00:54.000 Well, meme culture is very strange.
01:00:56.000 Right, yes.
01:00:56.000 And those little humorous images that get chucked around.
01:01:00.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:00.000 There's a lot of dirtbags that have really profited off of other people's meme work, too.
01:01:05.000 Like, my friend Don, he's terrible.
01:01:07.000 I don't know who that is.
01:01:08.000 He works for a meme site, yeah. 0.96
01:01:09.000 Real dirtbag.
01:01:10.000 Those sites are bad, man.
01:01:12.000 Some of them just flat-out steal, and some of them steal, and then they'll attribute you somewhere.
01:01:18.000 Like, they'll just say your name.
01:01:20.000 And sometimes they don't even say your name.
01:01:22.000 They say a name of, like, a fake account that doesn't even...
01:01:26.000 They just attribute it to someone.
01:01:27.000 Oh, I thought we got it from that person, because they know that it's at a hundred different...
01:01:31.000 Accounts.
01:01:32.000 Because a bunch of people have.
01:01:33.000 This guy's like you.
01:01:34.000 You'll find something.
01:01:35.000 You're like, oh, this is funny.
01:01:36.000 And you put it up.
01:01:37.000 But then there's people that they make these giant sites with all other people's work and they curate them.
01:01:42.000 And they make millions. 0.98
01:01:44.000 Like the fat Jewish. 1.00
01:01:45.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:01:45.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:01:46.000 Everyone hates him.
01:01:47.000 This is one of your big issues with people who take content and basically reappropriate it for themselves.
01:01:53.000 For sure with stand-up comedy.
01:01:55.000 But the thing that's happening with memes is like, if someone sends you something, like there's a bunch of things that, like Eddie Bravo sends me hilarious ones all the time.
01:02:05.000 He'll send me a funny meme, and then I'll send it to Brendan Shaw.
01:02:09.000 I'm not asking who made that meme.
01:02:11.000 It's a joke. 0.97
01:02:12.000 Brendan doesn't think that I made it myself, so it's not like I'm stealing a joke, but I'm definitely not crediting the original creator, because I don't know who the fuck it is. 0.95
01:02:20.000 And those things fly around. 0.98
01:02:22.000 They fly around.
01:02:23.000 But that's all in good faith.
01:02:27.000 The person in bad faith curates a website and then starts profiting off of it.
01:02:32.000 They find a loophole, and then they make deals with Comedy Central. 0.85
01:02:35.000 And they also have people who actually steal stand-up's bits and turn those bits into memes, and they put those bits on their meme pages, and they do the same shit.
01:02:46.000 They're content-needers.
01:02:48.000 They need content. 1.00
01:02:49.000 They're whores. 1.00
01:02:50.000 Parasites. 1.00
01:02:50.000 Yes. 1.00
01:02:51.000 So they just, they'll hire people to do it.
01:02:54.000 And the people that they hire, they'll steal people's jokes and turn them into memes.
01:02:59.000 I mean, it's a real problem.
01:03:00.000 That's, I mean, that's become a joke because people are like, oh, this is a rare Pepe, right?
01:03:06.000 Yes.
01:03:06.000 Because, like, please save it.
01:03:07.000 It's just like, you know, even though you can replicate it infinitely.
01:03:10.000 Do you know the Pepe lawsuit that's going on right now?
01:03:11.000 Oh, yeah.
01:03:11.000 Talk about that in there.
01:03:12.000 Well, the new one that's happening right now, Alex Jones refused to, he refused to settle.
01:03:17.000 Out of court.
01:03:18.000 So they're going to go to court.
01:03:19.000 They're going to figure out whether or not Pepe, you can use Pepe the Frog.
01:03:25.000 But I mean, I talk about this in the context of, it's like, can Andy Warhol use a Campbell's soup can?
01:03:31.000 It's the same thing.
01:03:32.000 It's like, yes, someone creates it, but if someone is using it in a kind of a broader satirical context.
01:03:38.000 Well, it doesn't though, because Andy probably couldn't do that today.
01:03:41.000 Yes, he could.
01:03:42.000 I think they'd sue him.
01:03:43.000 Have you tried to make a lot of money off of Campbell's soup cans?
01:03:46.000 I think corporations had more power back then and less accountability because now with social media everyone would lose their minds on Campbell's.
01:03:52.000 Right.
01:03:53.000 That's true.
01:03:54.000 That's a good point.
01:03:54.000 I think that...
01:03:56.000 Do you know what they did?
01:03:57.000 What Campbell's did when he did this?
01:03:58.000 What he did?
01:03:59.000 It's all 40 flavors of soup cans, right?
01:04:01.000 Puts them up in a gallery. 0.99
01:04:03.000 Campbell's is like, what the fuck is this? 0.99
01:04:04.000 Like they didn't know what to do, right? 0.99
01:04:05.000 And they didn't know who to call.
01:04:06.000 This is unprecedented.
01:04:07.000 So they had a storefront and they had the cans at the window.
01:04:10.000 They go, why pay a hundred grand?
01:04:12.000 You could get it here for a dollar.
01:04:13.000 So they tried to own it in their own way.
01:04:15.000 That's smart.
01:04:16.000 That's smart.
01:04:16.000 Great advertising for them.
01:04:18.000 Yeah.
01:04:18.000 I mean, gigantic advertising.
01:04:20.000 But that's the other thing is like with this meme culture where people are like, oh, Pepe means white supremacy.
01:04:25.000 It's like you can't – Campbell doesn't say what a Campbell's soup can means.
01:04:29.000 Different things mean – this is not news.
01:04:31.000 Different things mean different things to different people.
01:04:33.000 And if you're using it in one context, that doesn't mean other contexts aren't legitimate.
01:04:36.000 That's how art and images work.
01:04:38.000 Yeah.
01:04:39.000 I mean that's almost like what happened with the guy in Montana, right?
01:04:41.000 Yes.
01:04:41.000 Somebody takes his work and then turns it into Nazi stuff and then all of a sudden he becomes a Nazi.
01:04:45.000 Right.
01:04:45.000 And he had nothing to do with it.
01:04:47.000 With Pepe the Frog, because that guy who made...
01:04:49.000 Matt Fury, yeah.
01:04:49.000 He's so upset.
01:04:51.000 I know.
01:04:51.000 Do you know what they did to him?
01:04:53.000 Do you know what they did to him?
01:04:54.000 He had a cartoon where he killed Pepe.
01:04:57.000 So all the trolls are like, oh, that's interesting.
01:05:00.000 So they took all his other characters and made them full-blown Nazis. 0.74
01:05:05.000 So Heinrich, who's the wolf, instead of having reflections in his sunglasses, had the SS. They're like, oh, you want to throw down? 0.52
01:05:13.000 We'll throw down, asshole. 1.00
01:05:14.000 And that's what ended up happening to him. 1.00
01:05:16.000 The wolf has a Nazi name already.
01:05:18.000 No, they gave him a last name.
01:05:19.000 It's like Heinrich something else.
01:05:21.000 But that name.
01:05:22.000 Oh my god, I know. 0.89
01:05:23.000 This is a Nazi. 0.66
01:05:25.000 What do they call it? 0.98
01:05:26.000 That's a Nazi wolf. 0.78
01:05:27.000 It sounds like a Nazi wolf. 0.70
01:05:30.000 That's hilarious. 0.99
01:05:30.000 He thought he could just kill it off. 0.99
01:05:32.000 That's like deplatforming.
01:05:33.000 He thought he was going to deplatform Pepe. 0.97
01:05:36.000 Let's suppose I decide to kill off Paul Bunyan. 1.00
01:05:38.000 What the fuck are you... 1.00
01:05:39.000 What does that mean? 1.00
01:05:41.000 It doesn't mean anything.
01:05:42.000 Like the idea that he's going to kill it off and they're going to say, oh, well, he killed it off.
01:05:45.000 He can't use it anymore.
01:05:46.000 His name was originally Landwolf.
01:05:48.000 So they said, oh, his first name is Heinrich Landwolf.
01:05:51.000 You can pull it up in the glasses.
01:05:53.000 Well, maybe we should have SS imagery here.
01:05:55.000 His name was Landwolf as opposed to what?
01:05:57.000 Skywolf? 0.99
01:05:58.000 LAUGHTER What the fuck does that mean? 0.99
01:06:00.000 The funny thing is about Pepe was it was always so bland and lame before it was adopted as a meme. 0.99
01:06:09.000 Like, when you say, like, feels bad, man.
01:06:11.000 Like, it was like, this is so low blood sugar.
01:06:14.000 It bothers me.
01:06:15.000 But it's also the idea of you're saying that because Nazis are using it, you can't use it as FeelsBadMan?
01:06:21.000 Right.
01:06:21.000 If you're giving an okay symbol and they're using it this way, you can't say, oh, that's okay?
01:06:26.000 That doesn't make any sense.
01:06:27.000 Yeah, you can't say something to me and I go, okay, Michael Malice, if I do that, that's white supremacy.
01:06:32.000 Yeah.
01:06:33.000 No, everybody for years.
01:06:35.000 I had a whole series on my Instagram page of people doing the okay sign.
01:06:38.000 Of course.
01:06:38.000 Including me back when I had earrings.
01:06:40.000 Yeah.
01:06:41.000 News radio days.
01:06:43.000 Yeah.
01:06:43.000 Bill Cosby doing the okay symbol.
01:06:45.000 Come on, man.
01:06:46.000 You guys know this is not...
01:06:48.000 That's not what this is.
01:06:49.000 Just because people are using it and saying it is, and they're investigating.
01:06:52.000 People are investigating people.
01:06:53.000 There was a guy who was on television.
01:06:55.000 Yeah, and they blurt it out.
01:06:56.000 They blurt it out.
01:06:58.000 And the other thing is, we're at a point now where it's more easy to give the finger to someone than to say okay.
01:07:04.000 Yeah, because you blur the finger out and nobody cares.
01:07:06.000 Yeah.
01:07:07.000 But if you do that, like, oh, what is he doing?
01:07:09.000 He's touching his fingers!
01:07:10.000 You can't even do like you're holding a joint, because that's like a white-powered joint. 0.95
01:07:14.000 If you're doing that, like a roach, that's bad.
01:07:18.000 That's bad.
01:07:20.000 How do you...
01:07:20.000 You have to use a roach clip.
01:07:22.000 It's a ploy by the roach clip industry.
01:07:24.000 But there's...
01:07:25.000 I have a list in there of all the things that are called racist.
01:07:27.000 Milk.
01:07:29.000 Dinosaurs.
01:07:30.000 When did milk become racist? 0.90
01:07:31.000 Oh, because what the trolls do is they make it...
01:07:34.000 Let's see if we get them freaking out about milk and they got it.
01:07:37.000 Picnics.
01:07:39.000 My favorite one the trolls did was the free bleeding movement.
01:07:42.000 Oh my god.
01:07:42.000 That's the greatest thing that people have ever accomplished.
01:07:45.000 That they actually got women who think that they were...
01:07:47.000 No, no.
01:07:47.000 There's two things.
01:07:48.000 You're confusing two things. 0.70
01:07:49.000 The free bleeding was a woman who made it, but there was the pee on yourself. 0.99
01:07:53.000 No, free bleeding was a 4chan troll.
01:07:56.000 No, it was the girl running a race. 0.64
01:07:58.000 Because she was actually smart about it.
01:08:00.000 She said, this is to create awareness toward women in third world countries who don't have access to sanitary pads.
01:08:05.000 Yeah, I was reading a whole article on the 4chan creating the free bleeding movement.
01:08:13.000 Okay, I could be wrong.
01:08:14.000 See if you can pull that up.
01:08:15.000 I know there was a legitimate example of the free bleeding.
01:08:18.000 Yeah, I think that was post them already putting it up.
01:08:21.000 They've done a few things like that. 0.95
01:08:23.000 They also had pee on yourself to fight rape. 0.95
01:08:25.000 Oh, I heard. 0.77
01:08:26.000 Because that's one of the big arguments that to fight a rapist, if you're actually in that situation, pee on yourself, that'll turn her away. 1.00
01:08:31.000 And it's like you shouldn't give people advice.
01:08:33.000 It's like, listen, if she's actually getting assaulted, what should she do in that horrible circumstance? 0.70
01:08:37.000 And then it's like pee on yourself to show your support for victim sexual assault.
01:08:41.000 Wasn't there a senator somewhere that actually said that if it's a legitimate rape... 1.00
01:08:45.000 That's in there.
01:08:45.000 Todd Akin.
01:08:46.000 What the fuck did he say? 0.99
01:08:48.000 This is amazing. 1.00
01:08:49.000 Todd Akin was running for Senate in Missouri, and he's pro-life, and they asked him a very common question for pro-life people, what about if it's rape?
01:08:57.000 And he goes, well, that's very rare, and he goes, but my understanding is, if a woman is assaulted, the body has a way of shutting it down.
01:09:05.000 Now, there's a book called Sperm Wars, and apparently, again, crazy scientists don't get mad at me.
01:09:11.000 That book's not legit.
01:09:12.000 Is that true?
01:09:13.000 No.
01:09:13.000 No, it's been disputed.
01:09:15.000 It's been debunked.
01:09:16.000 Okay, then good.
01:09:16.000 There's no evidence that sperm acts as anything other than sperm that attacks the egg and tries to get it pregnant.
01:09:23.000 The claim in that book is that rape is more likely to result in pregnancy than regular intercourse.
01:09:29.000 The point is, he got read out of town in a rail.
01:09:32.000 And then Reza Aslan... 1.00
01:09:35.000 I hope he gets raped. 1.00
01:09:55.000 Years later. 1.00
01:09:56.000 Is that what he got fired from? 1.00
01:09:57.000 He also called the president a shithead. 0.98
01:09:59.000 So they're like, they use that, and they use the other tweet, and they got rid of him. 0.97
01:10:02.000 Free bleeding stuff has been online.
01:10:05.000 There's an article I found from 2004. Oh, holy crap. 0.75
01:10:08.000 So it's been online for a long time. 0.85
01:10:09.000 But who started it?
01:10:11.000 4chan picked it up as a troll in 2014. Okay, so it started as a real thing.
01:10:16.000 It's been a thing online for a long time on feminist blogs. 1.00
01:10:19.000 2011, there's another thing.
01:10:21.000 But when you find it in 2004, was it a troll? 1.00
01:10:24.000 No, it was all about my vagina. 1.00
01:10:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:10:27.000 Myvag.net.
01:10:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:10:29.000 I told you.
01:10:29.000 Wait a minute.
01:10:30.000 Wait a minute.
01:10:30.000 I knew.
01:10:31.000 I'm glad I got this right.
01:10:32.000 Yeah, I'm glad you got it right, too.
01:10:33.000 Myvag.net.
01:10:34.000 4chan has too much power.
01:10:35.000 Long.
01:10:36.000 Myvag.net.
01:10:38.000 Some lady's experience with her free bleeding. 1.00
01:10:40.000 So she just lets her...
01:10:41.000 15 years ago. 0.99
01:10:42.000 Her twat bleed. 1.00
01:10:43.000 I'm sorry. 0.98
01:10:46.000 Okay, you got that one. 0.94
01:10:48.000 The article was so fucking convincing. 0.97
01:10:51.000 That's a problem, man. 0.93
01:10:53.000 And that's what people that are arguing for deplatforming are saying.
01:10:58.000 For deplatforming anti-vaxxers or deplatforming flat earthers or anybody who's got information that's just not accurate in terms of...
01:11:07.000 The other thing is climate change.
01:11:08.000 That's a big one, too.
01:11:09.000 But my big answer is you guys reported WMDs.
01:11:13.000 For a long time, and hundreds of thousands of people got killed because of this misinformation.
01:11:17.000 So if that's going to be your standard, you're going to have to deplatform the New York Times as well.
01:11:21.000 So it's a very double-edged sword when you start talking about if people give misinformation, they have to be banned from these social media sites.
01:11:29.000 You need someone to be able to check the orthodox point of view, no matter what it is.
01:11:33.000 That's true.
01:11:34.000 There's no denying that.
01:11:36.000 What do you say, Jim?
01:11:37.000 This is the poster.
01:11:38.000 I didn't know this was about a poster.
01:11:39.000 It's a fair use issue with the Pepe and Alex Jones thing.
01:11:44.000 They put him on a poster and they're arguing it's fair use and he's arguing it's not.
01:11:50.000 It's not just because it's a meme or something.
01:11:54.000 There's the poster.
01:11:55.000 Who's that person behind Alex, to the left of Alex?
01:11:59.000 I don't know who most of these people are.
01:12:01.000 I know all of them.
01:12:02.000 Someone has a cigarette in their hand, or a test tube, or a tampon?
01:12:05.000 Yeah, who is that?
01:12:05.000 What is that?
01:12:06.000 Is that a blunt?
01:12:07.000 What is that?
01:12:07.000 Is that a sharpie?
01:12:08.000 Is she writing something on Alex's back?
01:12:10.000 Is that a dude or a guy? 1.00
01:12:12.000 Who the fuck is that? 0.99
01:12:13.000 Yeah, who is that? 1.00
01:12:14.000 I know everybody else.
01:12:14.000 Eh, whatever.
01:12:15.000 We could be here for days.
01:12:16.000 Is that Diamond and Silk?
01:12:17.000 I don't know.
01:12:19.000 Who's that lady? 1.00
01:12:20.000 I think that was Silk.
01:12:21.000 Okay.
01:12:21.000 Oh no, it must be Diamond and Silk, the two of them.
01:12:23.000 Who's Diamond and Silk?
01:12:24.000 They're these two black ladies who are Trump's biggest fans and they go on social media and they start ranting and raving. 1.00
01:12:29.000 I've seen one.
01:12:30.000 And one of them always drinks blue wine.
01:12:32.000 Blue wine?
01:12:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:12:33.000 And it's like when you're so sick of his bullshit that you're drinking literal Kool-Aid. 1.00
01:12:38.000 It's blue. 1.00
01:12:39.000 She's got a blue liquid.
01:12:40.000 It's crazy.
01:12:41.000 She's got a green one here.
01:12:41.000 And she's a Trump supporter?
01:12:43.000 Yeah!
01:12:43.000 What is going on there?
01:12:44.000 It's racist!
01:12:45.000 Well, wait a minute.
01:12:46.000 Maybe she's drinking Kool-Aid.
01:12:48.000 Like, you can get...
01:12:49.000 Can't you get green Kool-Aid?
01:12:50.000 No, I think it's wine.
01:12:51.000 And put it in a wine glass?
01:12:52.000 I think...
01:12:52.000 They have blue wine now.
01:12:54.000 What?
01:12:55.000 Look at the looks on her face.
01:12:56.000 She always seems sad.
01:12:58.000 I don't know which one's diamond, which one's silk.
01:12:59.000 One's always really upset.
01:13:01.000 The other one's just like, why am I here?
01:13:04.000 It's a good move if you just want attention.
01:13:06.000 If you don't really support Trump.
01:13:08.000 Just sitting there with your green wine.
01:13:09.000 Yeah, just get super outrageous.
01:13:13.000 And they testified in front of Congress.
01:13:15.000 That's why I love this timeline.
01:13:17.000 It's like, this is where we are.
01:13:19.000 They testified in front of Congress about Facebook censoring people.
01:13:22.000 Oh my god, because Facebook was censoring them?
01:13:25.000 They said.
01:13:26.000 Well, do you see what's going on with Alex Jones?
01:13:27.000 If you write Alex Jones' name on Facebook, it says, only you can see this post.
01:13:33.000 Just his name.
01:13:34.000 I do live streams a lot, right?
01:13:36.000 And if the live stream was, my thoughts on Alex Jones' live stream, the second it's uploaded, it's demonetized.
01:13:42.000 And they later have to get re-monetized once they see it's okay.
01:13:45.000 So the default setting is...
01:13:47.000 That's the other thing.
01:13:48.000 Of all of these people, Alex Jones is the worst one.
01:13:52.000 Like, you have actual full-blown, we need another Holocaust types, and he's the villain. 1.00
01:13:57.000 Yeah.
01:13:58.000 Well, he's got a big platform.
01:14:00.000 That's the idea.
01:14:01.000 The idea is that he's got a big platform, so they have to shut him down.
01:14:04.000 And here's the other lie.
01:14:05.000 They're like, oh, blah, blah, blah, Sandy Hook.
01:14:07.000 You weren't upset when the Sandy Hook should happen.
01:14:09.000 You're getting upset about him now, years later, because you're being whipped up into a froth by the corporate press about it.
01:14:15.000 You weren't saying he should be the platform seven years ago.
01:14:20.000 Whenever Sandy Hook was.
01:14:22.000 When it was something around them, right?
01:14:25.000 Five years ago?
01:14:28.000 Well, it becomes something that is a talking point, right?
01:14:31.000 Right.
01:14:32.000 Like that he needs to be deplatformed.
01:14:33.000 You either agree with it or you don't agree with it.
01:14:35.000 And I think that's the case with almost...
01:14:38.000 What is happening with our...
01:14:42.000 Something happened up there.
01:14:42.000 Oh, is it the purge?
01:14:44.000 No.
01:14:44.000 Are we the purge?
01:14:45.000 No, these guys are here messing with electronics.
01:14:49.000 No, there's no purge here.
01:14:50.000 Okay, good.
01:14:51.000 We have security.
01:14:52.000 I would not do well in a purge.
01:14:53.000 You'll be fine, dude.
01:14:55.000 Stay in this room.
01:14:55.000 This room is bulletproof.
01:14:56.000 Is it?
01:14:57.000 Yeah.
01:14:57.000 All right, good.
01:14:58.000 Good to know.
01:14:59.000 You'll be all right, man.
01:15:00.000 Okay, good.
01:15:02.000 Are you worried about the purge?
01:15:04.000 No.
01:15:04.000 Are you worried about the apocalypse?
01:15:06.000 No.
01:15:07.000 Natural disasters?
01:15:07.000 Not at all.
01:15:08.000 Nothing?
01:15:09.000 Solar flares.
01:15:10.000 Taking out the grid.
01:15:11.000 No, no, no.
01:15:12.000 Nothing?
01:15:12.000 I mean, there's one of the best books.
01:15:14.000 No more serious satellite radio.
01:15:16.000 And this is my response to people on the far right.
01:15:18.000 And I'm using that term accurately. 0.71
01:15:20.000 There's a great book by Arthur Herman called The Idea of Decline in Western History.
01:15:24.000 And he talks about, you know, every 20 years, it's a different group, on the left, on the right, and they're like, the world's going to end.
01:15:30.000 And he brings the receipts, and it never ends up happening.
01:15:33.000 Because people are smart, some, and we have a huge asymmetry in wanting to stay alive.
01:15:39.000 So I, the idea that the last of what apocalypse, what probably the Black Plague, I would say, would be the last apocalypse, we've been doing so good so far.
01:15:46.000 Do you know about the people that got the black plague because they were eating a marmot liver?
01:15:52.000 Was it a liver or a kidney?
01:15:54.000 No, I thought they thought it was the fleas from the rats.
01:15:56.000 No, no, no, no, no.
01:15:58.000 Oh, recently?
01:15:59.000 Recently.
01:16:00.000 Recently got the black plague.
01:16:01.000 Yeah, the fleas from the rats.
01:16:03.000 The last time that happened in the United States, I think, was in the 1920s.
01:16:06.000 And that was in Los Angeles, actually.
01:16:07.000 The last evidence of the black plague.
01:16:10.000 But you don't die from it anymore.
01:16:12.000 Oh, you could definitely die from it.
01:16:14.000 But they died in the 20s?
01:16:15.000 I think they died in the 20s.
01:16:17.000 I thought it's still...
01:16:18.000 Okay.
01:16:19.000 Well, the people died this year from the Black Plague. 1.00
01:16:22.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
01:16:23.000 The people that ate the liver. 1.00
01:16:24.000 Okay.
01:16:25.000 Kidney, I think, right?
01:16:26.000 Mongolian couple, you know, raw marmot kidney. 0.92
01:16:29.000 Yeah.
01:16:29.000 Oh, my God.
01:16:30.000 Marmot.
01:16:31.000 It's like a vole.
01:16:32.000 Yeah.
01:16:33.000 Yeah.
01:16:34.000 That's what we used to be.
01:16:35.000 65 million years ago.
01:16:36.000 Yeah.
01:16:37.000 It's in the mini-museum.
01:16:40.000 Weird little rodent thing.
01:16:41.000 Yeah.
01:16:41.000 But yeah, these people ate it.
01:16:42.000 Ate it and wound up dying from the plague.
01:16:44.000 What was the point?
01:16:45.000 I had a point.
01:16:47.000 About end of the world.
01:16:47.000 Are we worried about the apocalypse?
01:16:49.000 Yeah.
01:16:49.000 You know that idea that People have always worried about the end of the world and it never happens.
01:16:55.000 Sure.
01:16:56.000 That's like saying, I've always worried about dying, but I never have.
01:17:01.000 I'm not going to die.
01:17:02.000 I'm not going to die.
01:17:02.000 I'm not going to be there.
01:17:04.000 You're going to die. 0.82
01:17:04.000 But I'm not going to be there. 0.82
01:17:05.000 How do you know?
01:17:06.000 What do you mean?
01:17:07.000 How do you know?
01:17:07.000 You're not going to be there.
01:17:09.000 I mean, that's what dying means.
01:17:11.000 Oh, you're not going to be there when you die, so you're not going to die.
01:17:15.000 Right.
01:17:15.000 I'm not going to experience death.
01:17:17.000 You're alive or you're not, so don't even worry about it.
01:17:18.000 Because when it's over, you won't be here, so who cares?
01:17:21.000 I wouldn't say, so who cares?
01:17:23.000 But I mean, if your entire life is focusing on, you know, avoiding death, that's a very bad mindset.
01:17:29.000 Yeah, that's for sure.
01:17:30.000 That's all I'm saying.
01:17:30.000 What I'm saying is that I think people are operating with a very small historical timeline.
01:17:36.000 Sure.
01:17:36.000 And the more I talk to people like Graham Hancock, who would describe the overwhelming evidence that something pretty severe happened to the human race around 12,800 years ago.
01:17:46.000 Sure.
01:17:48.000 Something along those lines.
01:18:10.000 Easily.
01:18:12.000 Easily or not easily in terms of likelihood?
01:18:15.000 Because if it would have happened easily in terms of likelihood, it would have happened by now.
01:18:17.000 No, no.
01:18:19.000 It has happened.
01:18:20.000 There's a lot of evidence that it's happened.
01:18:21.000 It's just we're dealing with a small timeline.
01:18:23.000 The idea is, could you get lucky and it won't happen in the next 60 years or so while you're alive?
01:18:28.000 Yeah.
01:18:28.000 Yeah, it could happen.
01:18:29.000 Or it could hit tomorrow.
01:18:30.000 That could happen too.
01:18:31.000 Okay.
01:18:32.000 I'll take that bet.
01:18:33.000 It's a good bet.
01:18:34.000 I mean, it's good.
01:18:35.000 Look, your perspective is good.
01:18:36.000 It's good to not worry.
01:18:39.000 To not look at life like that.
01:18:40.000 Also, because when you don't have power, if you don't have the power to affect the comet, as I personally don't, knowing it's coming, theoretically, what can I do about it?
01:18:48.000 Just live.
01:18:49.000 And one of my heroes, Albert Camus, a great French philosopher, you know, his point about living to the point of tears, right?
01:18:55.000 And I think what really I find sad in this culture is cynicism and hopelessness.
01:19:01.000 And it's like, we're blessed.
01:19:03.000 You know, we have this – I mean, there's more – The internet, you can find people who are making amazing things, more opportunities than you can count.
01:19:10.000 And if you're just going to sit there and mope, I mean, you're blowing this great gift that God's given you.
01:19:16.000 Yeah, well, I think a lot of those people that are moping, that are concentrating entirely on the negative aspects of life, they're doing themselves a giant disservice.
01:19:25.000 It's almost like they can't help it.
01:19:27.000 I think there's a lot of people that are affecting the way culture shifts today that are probably clinically depressed.
01:19:33.000 Absolutely.
01:19:33.000 And one of the things I resent enormously about culture is this idea of something is joyous or fun, it's less legitimate artistically.
01:19:42.000 And that is such a disgusting, horrible mindset.
01:19:46.000 And we need more joy and more happiness.
01:19:48.000 Take it from me because I went to see JoJo Siwa last night.
01:19:51.000 Okay.
01:19:51.000 Yeah.
01:19:52.000 Do you know who that is?
01:19:53.000 You don't know who that is.
01:19:54.000 She's a YouTube star.
01:19:56.000 My nine-year-old loves her.
01:19:59.000 So I had to go to JoJo Siwa's birthday concert last night at the Microsoft Center. 0.99
01:20:06.000 Whatever the fuck that is. 0.97
01:20:07.000 I know because Bert ran into her at the airport. 0.99
01:20:09.000 Bert loves her too, I bet.
01:20:10.000 Because Bert has young daughters too.
01:20:13.000 She's all about positivity. 0.95
01:20:15.000 Believe and achieve.
01:20:16.000 Fun times.
01:20:17.000 I'll upload a video later.
01:20:18.000 But is it all like saccharine, like Disney stuff, or is it sincere?
01:20:22.000 Oh, it's as saccharine as it gets.
01:20:23.000 Oh, I don't like that.
01:20:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:20:25.000 Like, yeah, she was taking old Queen songs and reworking the words, cleaning them up.
01:20:32.000 Oh, so she's like those mean people. 1.00
01:20:33.000 Oh, she's cleaning, she's toning down Queen songs? 0.94
01:20:37.000 Toning down some Queen songs. 0.99
01:20:38.000 Oh, this woman's the devil. 1.00
01:20:39.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:20:40.000 How dare you take someone's art and appropriate it and make it take out all the energy?
01:20:49.000 Yeah, she... 1.00
01:20:50.000 This is corporate culture at its worst.
01:20:52.000 But she's doing it for three-year-olds, bro.
01:20:54.000 So?
01:20:55.000 She's like five-year-olds and three-year-olds.
01:20:57.000 They don't need to be listening to Queen.
01:20:57.000 I love her.
01:20:58.000 There it is.
01:20:58.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:20:59.000 She loves Freddie Mercury, bro.
01:21:00.000 What's the problem?
01:21:01.000 No, she doesn't.
01:21:01.000 If she loved him, she'd respect him.
01:21:03.000 She's fucking 12. She know. 1.00
01:21:04.000 Oh, she's 16. Excuse me.
01:21:07.000 Yeah, she doesn't know any better.
01:21:08.000 She does know better.
01:21:09.000 How smart were you when you were 16?
01:21:10.000 Smart enough not to try to rewrite Queen.
01:21:13.000 I bet she doesn't have a say in it.
01:21:15.000 I bet whoever's pulling the strings gets her to rewrite it. 0.98
01:21:17.000 That makes it even more nefarious.
01:21:19.000 Of course, the Disney people or the censors.
01:21:23.000 Whoever it is, the producers.
01:21:24.000 Wait, am I wrong?
01:21:26.000 Where's the lie?
01:21:27.000 Where's the lie?
01:21:28.000 What song was it that they did it to?
01:21:30.000 I'm trying to remember.
01:21:31.000 They did We Are the Champions.
01:21:32.000 She sang that. 0.91
01:21:35.000 But champions, that means someone's a loser.
01:21:37.000 Yeah. 0.94
01:21:38.000 No time for losers. 0.88
01:21:39.000 So what's that changed to? 0.95
01:21:41.000 I don't think they changed that.
01:21:44.000 No time for recess.
01:21:48.000 Oh my god.
01:21:49.000 This is horrifying. 0.98
01:21:51.000 This is like those videos they made for Mormons where they took Hollywood blockbusters and cut out all the sex and all the cursing. 1.00
01:21:59.000 And it's like you are evil vampires. 1.00
01:22:02.000 Horrible monsters. 0.99
01:22:03.000 She did Crocodile Rock, Elton John.
01:22:06.000 And she changed Rainbow Chevy to Rainbow Beamer.
01:22:10.000 So, Crocodile Rock.
01:22:11.000 You know my theories with that song?
01:22:12.000 I tweeted this out years ago.
01:22:13.000 What? 0.99
01:22:14.000 I just imagined Elton with a bunch of his friends all getting high as fuck. 1.00
01:22:18.000 Right. 1.00
01:22:18.000 And they're like, alright, let's try to think of the most fucked up lyric. 1.00
01:22:22.000 And Eric, Elton, you're going to make a song about it. 0.94
01:22:24.000 They're like, alright, how about like Crocodile Rock? 0.98
01:22:27.000 And he's like, alright, I'll fucking do it. 0.99
01:22:29.000 And he fucking sits and nails it. 1.00
01:22:31.000 What the fuck does that even mean? 1.00
01:22:32.000 What does that mean? 0.98
01:22:33.000 But I'll tell you what, man.
01:22:34.000 The word crocodile means something different to me after watching that Black Mirror episode titled Crocodile.
01:22:40.000 I haven't seen it. 0.99
01:22:41.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:22:42.000 If you're listening to this, ladies and gentlemen, and you have a sensitive heart, and you can't handle really fucked up premises in a really fucked up episode... 1.00
01:22:50.000 Like her fans. 0.98
01:22:52.000 Yeah, don't watch it, because it's rough.
01:22:55.000 It's really good, though. 1.00
01:22:57.000 But it's like, holy shit! 0.99
01:22:58.000 It's one of those ones where I'm not giving away anything, but at the end, when you're done with that show, you feel like you need a fucking shower. 1.00
01:23:05.000 You're like, whoa. 0.99
01:23:07.000 It's dark.
01:23:07.000 It has nothing to do with the reptiles.
01:23:09.000 I do like dark.
01:23:10.000 It's just dark.
01:23:12.000 It's dark.
01:23:13.000 I just read this book by this woman, Cynthia Carr, called Fire in the Belly.
01:23:17.000 It's the life story of this artist, David Wanyarovic, who I didn't know anything about.
01:23:21.000 And he was in New York in the early to late 80s when AIDS was coming up.
01:23:27.000 I think?
01:23:46.000 And these are men who are the symbols of virility, early, late 20s, early 30s, just dropping like flies.
01:23:51.000 And the thing is, they're watching each other die, knowing, I'm next.
01:23:55.000 That's going to be me a year from now.
01:23:56.000 And they're getting dementia before they die, so they're talking all crazy at age 30. So this book really fucked my head really badly. 0.99
01:24:03.000 They were giving him AZT, too. 1.00
01:24:05.000 Oh, yeah.
01:24:06.000 Which didn't help.
01:24:06.000 No, but that was later.
01:24:08.000 At first, they're like, we don't know what the fuck to do. 0.97
01:24:09.000 Good luck. 0.98
01:24:10.000 And it's like, we're dying. 1.00
01:24:11.000 Like, oh, sorry, shouldn't have sucked dick. 1.00
01:24:12.000 It's like, what the fuck am I supposed to do? 1.00
01:24:16.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:24:16.000 They were calling it the gay cancer. 1.00
01:24:18.000 Yeah. 0.92
01:24:18.000 They didn't know what it was. 0.92
01:24:19.000 And then when they were trying to fight for education, people were like, well, we're not going to teach kids about sucking dick. 0.99
01:24:25.000 And they're like, dude, we're dying. 0.99
01:24:26.000 And they're like, sorry about it. 0.98
01:24:28.000 And this book really got with the fuck with my head, especially because, you know, it's real. 0.97
01:24:33.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:24:34.000 Did you ever hear of bug catchers?
01:24:35.000 Of course.
01:24:36.000 Bug chasers.
01:24:37.000 Bug chasers.
01:24:37.000 Bug chasers, yeah.
01:24:38.000 That's, again, we're talking about things that are just fucked up about human beings. 0.97
01:24:43.000 When you look at the spectrum of behavior, bug chasers are people who tried to get HIV. Right, because they thought it was the ultimate symbol of being gay. 0.98
01:24:52.000 Well, I'm sure there's a bunch of reasons.
01:24:54.000 That was the big reason.
01:24:56.000 Well, there was probably that, but probably they felt bad that other people had it and they wanted it. 0.91
01:25:00.000 And there was other people that just wanted it because they're crazy. 0.71
01:25:03.000 Sure.
01:25:03.000 And other people hated themselves, so they wanted it.
01:25:05.000 There was also that guy in Germany who was like, I want to cut off someone's dick and eat it. 1.00
01:25:09.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:25:10.000 And someone signed up for it. 1.00
01:25:11.000 No, he said, I want someone to cut off my dick and eat it, and I want them to eat me. 1.00
01:25:18.000 And so someone said, sure, let's meet up. 1.00
01:25:20.000 Yeah, that's right.
01:25:21.000 I got it wrong. 1.00
01:25:22.000 And so the guy cut his dick off and they both shared his dick and then killed the dude and started eating him and then they arrest him. 1.00
01:25:29.000 And they didn't know whether to charge him because it was voluntary. 1.00
01:25:31.000 Yeah.
01:25:32.000 It's a good point.
01:25:33.000 Yeah.
01:25:34.000 Oof.
01:25:35.000 Yeah.
01:25:35.000 I'm not a fan.
01:25:37.000 But I mean, you still like...
01:25:40.000 You can't...
01:25:41.000 Murder is like...
01:25:42.000 It either is murder or it's not murder.
01:25:45.000 Like, if you're in a gay relationship with a guy and the guy says, okay, this is what I want you to do. 1.00
01:25:49.000 I want you to beat me up and rape me. 1.00
01:25:51.000 And you're like, uh... 1.00
01:25:53.000 Okay, can I get that in writing?
01:25:55.000 Can you write down, I want you to beat me up?
01:25:56.000 And then, you know, if the cops come... 1.00
01:25:58.000 He's like, he beat me up and he raped me. 0.99
01:26:00.000 I'm like, no, no, bro, listen. 0.99
01:26:01.000 Here, he wrote it right here.
01:26:03.000 He made a videotape.
01:26:04.000 You didn't use your safe word. 0.99
01:26:06.000 He said he wanted me to beat him up and rape him, and the cops would probably let you go. 0.99
01:26:10.000 But you can't murder. 1.00
01:26:12.000 Right.
01:26:13.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:26:13.000 Because consensual sex is obviously legal.
01:26:17.000 So if you have consensual sex with someone, it's legal. 0.80
01:26:20.000 But if you pretend to be fighting them off, and then they have sex with you, it's role play.
01:26:26.000 But murders never role play.
01:26:29.000 You know, I found, when I was doing research for the book, the National Review, who's my favorite paleontology journal, in the late 90s, as the gay rights movement was coming up into mainstream consciousness, they wrote an article comparing the struggle for gay rights to a struggle for necrophilia.
01:26:45.000 They're like, what would be the difference?
01:26:47.000 And they talked about how, right now, In the European Union, perverts are fighting for the right to be violent toward each other in bed in various ways. 0.99
01:26:57.000 It's like, yeah, it's like rough sex. 0.99
01:26:59.000 It's adjacent to vanilla sex. 1.00
01:27:01.000 Yeah, they like it. 0.98
01:27:01.000 And now the articles are the conservative case for gay marriage. 0.98
01:27:06.000 It's like you guys have no fucking shame then and you have no fucking shame now. 0.99
01:27:09.000 At least be consistent. 0.99
01:27:12.000 One of the things that disturbs me greatly today is there is a movement, and I don't know how big it is, but it's a movement for people to try to recognize pedophiles as a sexual distinction, a sexual designation, rather than a sick disease. 0.94
01:27:29.000 Similar to being trans or being gay, that some people are just born pedophiles.
01:27:35.000 Well, I think what's important there is it's not just a crime because a crime can be fixed and treated. 0.87
01:27:42.000 So I think it is important to understand these people will always psychologically be pedophiles.
01:27:49.000 And you're not going to get them to be like straight homeowners.
01:27:54.000 There's no therapy that's ever been shown that...
01:27:57.000 I think it's like trying to make someone who's gay straight.
01:27:59.000 Is it really that?
01:28:00.000 That's my understanding.
01:28:01.000 If that's the case, then is there an argument that we should be more compassionate with them as long as they don't act on that?
01:28:07.000 But that's the danger.
01:28:08.000 Because the other thing, what they don't understand is from their point of view, those kids are giving consent, which they are, right?
01:28:14.000 The kid's saying yes.
01:28:15.000 So they're like, look, that's what's scary.
01:28:18.000 We don't even know if they do, right?
01:28:20.000 No, but they don't think of statutory rape being a thing. 0.54
01:28:23.000 And I knew, okay, this is what happened.
01:28:24.000 I interned at a place long ago.
01:28:27.000 And there was a librarian who worked there, like a Guido type, you know? 0.98
01:28:32.000 A girl or a guy?
01:28:32.000 Guy.
01:28:33.000 And years later, he was arrested.
01:28:36.000 He was a school teacher.
01:28:38.000 He was arrested in an undercover sting trying to meet a kid who he knew was 13 or 12 in a park to try to sleep with him, right?
01:28:46.000 This was Janine Pirro, who later became a Fox commentator.
01:28:49.000 He got out of jail, and I see him on Facebook.
01:28:52.000 He's married with kids.
01:28:54.000 And it's just like, you think it's fine? 1.00
01:28:58.000 That's just scary shit. 1.00
01:29:00.000 That's insane. 1.00
01:29:00.000 And it's another thing to switch gender, too. 1.00
01:29:02.000 If you're going for young boys, you're going to go to regular-aged women? 0.99
01:29:06.000 I don't see how that would work.
01:29:07.000 Right, right.
01:29:08.000 And this is something that's such a taboo topic.
01:29:12.000 For a lot of people, correctly, once you start talking about kids and sexuality, their hackles raise.
01:29:18.000 It is a PC subject because it's like, why are you even introducing this into the conversation?
01:29:22.000 Where are you going with this?
01:29:23.000 It's a very, very, very slippery slope.
01:29:27.000 Well, if you're trying to say, or if they're trying to say, that this is something that people are born with, I don't think there's evidence that people just are born that way.
01:29:35.000 I think there's evidence that people become that way from sexual abuse.
01:29:39.000 Yes, that's true too.
01:29:40.000 Absolutely.
01:29:41.000 And they think it's appropriate.
01:29:41.000 I've never heard of anybody that grew up in a normal household who wasn't abused.
01:29:46.000 Is that the case?
01:29:47.000 Am I incorrect?
01:29:48.000 I'm not in a position to talk about this at all.
01:29:50.000 I think we have probably very few cases of pedophiles on the record explaining how they came to this point of view.
01:29:57.000 Right.
01:29:58.000 But in either situation, born or abused, I can't see how this is something that's going to be an emotion level.
01:30:06.000 You're going to be able to turn them away.
01:30:07.000 Well, it's also a super – the idea of that being in your neighborhood.
01:30:11.000 Yes.
01:30:11.000 This is in your neighborhood.
01:30:13.000 You've got this guy who likes to fuck kids and he promises not to do it anymore. 1.00
01:30:17.000 They did a few times. 1.00
01:30:18.000 They locked him up in a cage and now he lives down the street.
01:30:20.000 Right.
01:30:20.000 And he locked up in a cage where he was traumatized also, further traumatized.
01:30:24.000 Oh, yeah.
01:30:25.000 So, and also, if he promises not to do it, but knowing when he's looking, he's checking out my son or my daughter.
01:30:31.000 Yeah.
01:30:33.000 I did not expect to be talking about this today.
01:30:36.000 Of course.
01:30:37.000 That the human mind can be imprinted and you're abused when you're younger, that you go on to do that same thing that was horrifically done to you, that that is a common thing.
01:30:51.000 That happens with children that get abused.
01:30:54.000 Does it make sense to you?
01:30:55.000 It does make sense.
01:30:56.000 To me, it's like that way I wasn't abused.
01:30:58.000 I was enjoying it.
01:30:59.000 Could be, right?
01:31:00.000 You know, that way it takes away the trauma because it's like, oh, this is how I've always been.
01:31:04.000 So it was okay.
01:31:05.000 Nothing happened to me.
01:31:06.000 And you don't have to deal with the trauma that way.
01:31:09.000 Well, that's what Milo, when he was talking about being sexually abused as a child, I think that's what he was kind of doing.
01:31:17.000 Oh, yes. 0.57
01:31:17.000 He was saying that I was the predator and I was going out for the priest. 0.57
01:31:20.000 I talk about that in the book because if there was anyone other than Milo, people would – because he was older.
01:31:24.000 He wasn't like 12. He was like whatever, 18. 14?
01:31:26.000 No, no.
01:31:26.000 I think he was like – I don't remember how old he was.
01:31:28.000 No, no.
01:31:28.000 If he's 18, that's fine.
01:31:29.000 It wasn't 18, but it wasn't 12. I think – He was a teenager, but he was young.
01:31:33.000 If it was somebody else, people would be talking about heteronormativity, right?
01:31:36.000 And it's historically not that weird for an older gay dude to get with a younger gay guy, especially when everyone was closeted, to kind of initiate them into the lifestyle.
01:31:43.000 This was a thing. 0.76
01:31:44.000 But it's Milo, now it's, oh my god, you want pedophilia, blah blah blah. 0.90
01:31:47.000 It's like, there's different standards for gay people than for straight people. 0.74
01:31:50.000 And that's appropriate and acceptable.
01:31:52.000 And people understand that in other contexts.
01:31:55.000 Well, the problem is society, as the way we understand human beings and the way a person's brain works, when you're young, you shouldn't be allowed to make those decisions because sexually, in particular, you could get coerced,
01:32:10.000 you can get...
01:32:26.000 Why would you want it happening to a boy?
01:32:28.000 Yeah.
01:32:42.000 I think you can make that argument that it is a little bit different.
01:32:45.000 I still don't think it's okay.
01:32:47.000 I'm not saying it's okay.
01:32:48.000 I'm just saying clearly it's different.
01:32:49.000 It's different.
01:32:50.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:32:51.000 Especially if the boy is like very gay. 1.00
01:32:53.000 Very obviously gay. 1.00
01:32:55.000 Which, you know, everyone from high school remembers. 0.97
01:32:57.000 Or if he's not a virgin.
01:32:59.000 Right.
01:32:59.000 That's true too.
01:32:59.000 That first guy for that girl will fuck with her head for her life for many women.
01:33:04.000 For him, it could be it wasn't his first. 1.00
01:33:06.000 Yep.
01:33:06.000 That's a very big difference too.
01:33:08.000 Yeah.
01:33:08.000 Yeah, you don't want to be that first guy.
01:33:10.000 That's a lot of work.
01:33:11.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:33:13.000 I don't even mean with gay. 0.80
01:33:15.000 I mean with straight, too.
01:33:16.000 I don't think I ever had a virgin in my life.
01:33:18.000 I've never had a virgin.
01:33:19.000 Thank God.
01:33:20.000 It's too much work.
01:33:22.000 To be connected, it'd be like forever?
01:33:24.000 I thought you meant physically it'd be too much work.
01:33:26.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:33:27.000 No, I mean...
01:33:28.000 Yeah, I should probably clarify.
01:33:29.000 Yeah.
01:33:30.000 I mean, being connected, it's too significant.
01:33:32.000 You want to be like the third guy.
01:33:34.000 You don't want to be the first guy a girl has sex with. 0.99
01:33:37.000 You were always my first, Michael.
01:33:38.000 I'll never forget.
01:33:40.000 I always thought that we were supposed to be together forever and ever because I believe in movies and fairy tales.
01:33:45.000 And you were it.
01:33:46.000 And I listened to the Queen songs with the nice lyrics.
01:33:48.000 It didn't work.
01:33:49.000 JoJo's, he was concert.
01:33:51.000 She explained how everything was like a movie.
01:33:54.000 Yeah, you, uh...
01:33:57.000 Yeah, that's a thing, right?
01:33:58.000 Like, people do get emotionally attached to romantic stories that they see in movies, and they want their life to play out like this fictional narrative.
01:34:08.000 And the left uses this a lot, because they'll have all these leftist ideas in culture, in movies, and that's where a lot of people get their programming.
01:34:16.000 And then it's like, you know, for example, here's an idea you don't see in culture, that people very often knowingly and consciously do the wrong thing.
01:34:24.000 That happens every day. 0.97
01:34:25.000 People know they're doing something fucked up. 0.90
01:34:26.000 You don't really see that that much in, like, TV and movies. 0.98
01:34:29.000 And that's a right-wing message that, like, you know, people sometimes are basically evil.
01:34:35.000 You can run into someone, and at that point in their life, they are evil.
01:34:38.000 That's a fact.
01:34:39.000 Sure, that exists all over the world.
01:34:41.000 And it's also evil on a small scale.
01:34:45.000 Like, if you're in an office...
01:34:46.000 And someone's getting chewed out, and they're getting bullied for whatever reason, and you're sitting there and you're keeping your mouth shut, you're not Hitler.
01:34:54.000 But you know you're doing the wrong thing.
01:34:55.000 But you're trying to protect your job, right?
01:34:57.000 Sure.
01:34:57.000 You want the boss to come down on you.
01:34:59.000 But a lot of times you have that space and you still won't do it.
01:35:02.000 And that's knowingly doing the wrong thing.
01:35:05.000 And I'm not saying you should be throwing the garbage, but I'm saying people do that all the time, these little sacrifices they make with their conscience.
01:35:11.000 That's true, yeah.
01:35:13.000 And you don't see that really represented.
01:35:14.000 And that's an important idea for people to understand that people are often weak.
01:35:19.000 Yeah.
01:35:19.000 And always, especially if you're going check to check, always worried about losing your job, losing your gig.
01:35:25.000 Yeah.
01:35:26.000 That's a real big thing with people.
01:35:28.000 I was on vacation once and there was this guy who was a boss and he was there with his employee and his employee's family and he was mean to his employee's daughter.
01:35:35.000 That's horrifying.
01:35:36.000 I watched it.
01:35:36.000 The guy had to take it.
01:35:37.000 He was just talking shitty to her. 0.97
01:35:40.000 It was really gross because you could see the dynamic play out. 1.00
01:35:43.000 He was just this mean old guy, just really shitty. 0.99
01:35:46.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
01:35:47.000 It was disturbing to see this weak man just having to accept the fact that this guy is being shitty to his daughter. 0.99
01:35:55.000 He was giving her a lecture and berating her and doing it publicly. 0.99
01:35:59.000 Oh my God.
01:36:00.000 Is this who you wanted to grow up to be?
01:36:02.000 Is this job worth it?
01:36:03.000 It was so gross I wanted to step in. 1.00
01:36:06.000 I was like, I just want to tell this guy, shut the fuck up. 1.00
01:36:08.000 It's driving me nuts. 0.99
01:36:10.000 I remember when I was back before I started being an author, I was working at Goldman.
01:36:16.000 And it was a very stressful job.
01:36:18.000 And I had my review.
01:36:20.000 And they said, oh, you know, if you have downtime, sometimes we see you going online.
01:36:24.000 We want you to help the Laptop Lab.
01:36:26.000 And I just go, no.
01:36:28.000 And he goes, what?
01:36:29.000 I said, I wasn't hired to do laptops.
01:36:32.000 I'm not interested in learning laptops.
01:36:34.000 And there are, the job is very intense and high stress.
01:36:38.000 So if I have downtime, I'm going to, you know, use the downtime.
01:36:42.000 And the look on her face was just like as if I just added myself as a pedophile.
01:36:46.000 What did it mean by use the laptop?
01:36:49.000 The laptop lab, right?
01:36:50.000 What does that mean?
01:36:50.000 I was doing tech support.
01:36:52.000 So like Microsoft Word, Excel, people had problems.
01:36:54.000 They would call on the fly.
01:36:55.000 You got to have an answer for them.
01:36:56.000 It's very, it's like a quiz show.
01:36:57.000 You're living a quiz show.
01:36:58.000 Sure.
01:36:59.000 And then there's a laptop lab.
01:37:00.000 People are checking out laptops.
01:37:01.000 They're setting up laptops, which is a very different skill set.
01:37:04.000 Something I didn't really know.
01:37:05.000 Setting up in terms of downloading software.
01:37:09.000 I didn't know then.
01:37:10.000 I still don't know. 0.99
01:37:11.000 I don't fucking care. 0.98
01:37:12.000 But you're like, no. 0.99
01:37:12.000 It's not my job. 0.99
01:37:13.000 And I'm not interested in working as hard as possible.
01:37:17.000 Also, when you have downtime, do they want you to work extra?
01:37:21.000 The point is, the phone rings or it doesn't ring, right?
01:37:24.000 That's your job.
01:37:24.000 That's my job.
01:37:25.000 My job is to get off the phone as fast as possible because they're problem solved.
01:37:29.000 So what they were saying was, while you were doing this other job and waiting for something to come up, we want to keep you working with a specifically different job.
01:37:38.000 Correct.
01:37:39.000 Yeah.
01:37:39.000 No.
01:37:40.000 It's corporations, man.
01:37:41.000 That's right.
01:37:41.000 Try to squeeze that rock.
01:37:42.000 Right. 0.98
01:37:43.000 And it's like, why am I busting my ass to make Goldman Sachs That extra $5 of value. 1.00
01:37:50.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:37:51.000 And I'm so proud of myself. 1.00
01:37:53.000 Did they fire you after that?
01:37:54.000 They fired me because I refused to work on Thanksgiving because my great-grandma had died.
01:37:59.000 They wanted you to work on Thanksgiving?
01:38:00.000 Well, we were 24-7.
01:38:02.000 What?
01:38:03.000 It's a help desk.
01:38:05.000 Oh, wow.
01:38:06.000 But you must have shifts.
01:38:07.000 I was second shift.
01:38:08.000 4 p.m.
01:38:09.000 to midnight, right?
01:38:10.000 Every night?
01:38:11.000 Monday through Thursday.
01:38:13.000 Okay.
01:38:14.000 And they go, oh, we're having you in on Thursday during the day, Thanksgiving Day.
01:38:19.000 And I'd promised my, and I worked second shift, so they wanted me four to midnight, then there at nine.
01:38:23.000 And I said, no, I promised my grandma I'd have Thanksgiving dinner, lunch with her.
01:38:28.000 I could have called my grandma to reschedule.
01:38:30.000 I didn't want to be that guy, because I knew this was one of those, you know, things that, like, this is a fork road, crossroads in your life.
01:38:36.000 And they go, we'll find someone else to cover your shift. 0.53
01:38:39.000 And I asked, everyone else had plans, and they go, well, we need you midnight, you know, the next day for lunch.
01:38:45.000 And I said, no.
01:38:47.000 And they fired me, and I'm very, very glad I did that.
01:38:50.000 And I had lunch with Grandma.
01:38:51.000 Her mom had just died.
01:38:53.000 Are they allowed to fire you for that if it's not your shift?
01:38:56.000 Yeah, of course.
01:38:57.000 They are?
01:38:58.000 Of course.
01:38:59.000 Well, no, the shift every week, they get the calendar.
01:39:01.000 Oh, so they scheduled it.
01:39:03.000 Right.
01:39:03.000 Oh, I see.
01:39:04.000 So you didn't have a specific shift like, hey, Michael, every day you come in at 8 o'clock, you leave at midnight.
01:39:09.000 I usually did.
01:39:10.000 Or 4 o'clock, rather.
01:39:11.000 But when you had holidays, things had to change.
01:39:13.000 And I'm like, well, I don't care.
01:39:15.000 And no regrets.
01:39:18.000 Well, it worked out.
01:39:18.000 It did.
01:39:19.000 But did you ever think that you'd be like this, what are you?
01:39:22.000 What are you, a pundit? 0.97
01:39:24.000 I'm a troll. 0.68
01:39:24.000 What am I? An author? 0.68
01:39:26.000 Media personality, I think is the word.
01:39:27.000 You said troll, though, immediately.
01:39:29.000 You went right to it.
01:39:30.000 I caught myself. 0.81
01:39:31.000 Ah, but you wanted to be a troll.
01:39:33.000 Well, I don't like that.
01:39:34.000 That's the first thing you think of.
01:39:35.000 It's fun.
01:39:35.000 Like if someone says, like, what do you do?
01:39:37.000 You're like, troll.
01:39:38.000 I'm an author. 0.94
01:39:39.000 No, actually, you know what I say?
01:39:41.000 When people ask me what I do, I say, you know those obnoxious people who have a job giving their uninformed opinion?
01:39:48.000 That's me.
01:39:49.000 That's what I usually say.
01:39:50.000 Interesting.
01:39:50.000 Yeah.
01:39:51.000 Isn't that funny that that's a job?
01:39:53.000 All you have to do is be kind of entertaining and have an interesting way of looking at things.
01:39:58.000 It's great.
01:39:59.000 This is what I'm talking about being blessed.
01:40:01.000 And I don't take it for granted.
01:40:02.000 And the fact that people pay my rent because of my sick burns on Twitter, on Patreon. 0.59
01:40:06.000 Sick burn! 0.95
01:40:07.000 Sick burn! 0.93
01:40:08.000 I love my sick burns. 0.95
01:40:09.000 And you used to be a Microsoft help representative for Goldman Sachs.
01:40:14.000 Yeah.
01:40:15.000 Was it Microsoft?
01:40:16.000 Just Microsoft?
01:40:17.000 Yeah, all the Microsoft products, yeah.
01:40:19.000 Yeah.
01:40:19.000 Do you use Windows?
01:40:21.000 I do.
01:40:21.000 Do you?
01:40:22.000 Yeah.
01:40:22.000 You don't use Apple?
01:40:23.000 I don't.
01:40:23.000 You seem like a guy.
01:40:24.000 You seem like a guy using an Android phone, too.
01:40:27.000 I have an Android phone.
01:40:28.000 Aha! 0.94
01:40:29.000 I do.
01:40:29.000 You're a little bit of a contrarian.
01:40:31.000 I have a little bit.
01:40:32.000 Yeah.
01:40:32.000 Do you like Windows because the people that use Macs are just like following the sheep herd?
01:40:37.000 I use Windows because that's what I was professional on, so I haven't changed in all this time. 0.95
01:40:43.000 The only thing that bugs me about Windows is I have to constantly be updating shit. 1.00
01:40:47.000 You turn that shit off. 1.00
01:40:49.000 You have to turn that shit off. 1.00
01:40:50.000 Why? 1.00
01:40:50.000 Because sometimes it's crashed my computer. 1.00
01:40:53.000 Oh, when it updates?
01:40:55.000 Yeah, so I'm not rolling...
01:40:56.000 That fear of the computer restarting...
01:40:58.000 So how often do you update your software?
01:41:00.000 Never, never. 0.98
01:41:00.000 But what if they fix, like, vulnerabilities and shit? 0.98
01:41:02.000 What, they're gonna invent new words? 0.97
01:41:04.000 It's fine.
01:41:05.000 It's fine that they get the squiggly line when I write the word meme.
01:41:07.000 What I worry about is, like, vulnerabilities to the system.
01:41:11.000 I have everything backed up in three places.
01:41:13.000 Oh.
01:41:13.000 I'm a crazy person like that.
01:41:15.000 Okay, so you're ready to rock.
01:41:16.000 And do you run some...
01:41:18.000 Do you run a VPN? Yeah.
01:41:20.000 No.
01:41:20.000 No?
01:41:21.000 And I'm pirating that shit, too. 1.00
01:41:24.000 Would you? 1.00
01:41:24.000 Why would you say that on the air? 1.00
01:41:27.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
01:41:27.000 I'm going to get swatted now. 1.00
01:41:29.000 Come and get you. 0.99
01:41:29.000 I'm going to get swatted. 0.99
01:41:30.000 You're a pirate. 1.00
01:41:31.000 They're going to fucking sink your ship. 1.00
01:41:33.000 Me and Madonna with the eyepatches. 1.00
01:41:35.000 Madonna has an eyepatch? 1.00
01:41:37.000 Yeah, you didn't see that?
01:41:38.000 See, I think it's a fashion thing, but it could be a glaucoma thing.
01:41:42.000 What?
01:41:44.000 She's got an eyepatch. 1.00
01:41:46.000 Maybe she's just a fan of Slick Rick.
01:41:48.000 Do you know my favorite comedian, Neil Hamburger?
01:41:51.000 Yeah, sure.
01:41:52.000 I love Neil.
01:41:53.000 He's my absolute favorite comedian. 0.97
01:41:54.000 And one of his jokes is, what do you call a senior citizen who can't help but expose their genitalia in public? 0.99
01:42:01.000 Madonna. 0.98
01:42:04.000 And he says it all sad.
01:42:08.000 He's got such a weird act.
01:42:09.000 He's so funny.
01:42:10.000 Oh, he's the best.
01:42:11.000 It's such a strange, strange act.
01:42:13.000 Well, he's just basically like Tony Clifton.
01:42:15.000 Yeah.
01:42:15.000 As a stand-up.
01:42:16.000 But better.
01:42:16.000 But better.
01:42:17.000 Much better.
01:42:18.000 Much better material.
01:42:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:42:19.000 And better presentation.
01:42:20.000 I talk about Kaufman in the book because he's the first troll. 0.91
01:42:23.000 Andy Kaufman was the first troll.
01:42:25.000 Sure.
01:42:25.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:42:26.000 And there's this great...
01:42:27.000 He had this character, Tony Clifton, people don't know, who's this, like, angry lounge singer.
01:42:31.000 And Tony did this bit.
01:42:33.000 He would perform, I think it was in Atlantic City.
01:42:35.000 And he'd say, hey, my wife died.
01:42:36.000 Whenever I look at my daughter's, you know, Stephanie's eyes, I see her.
01:42:39.000 So Stephanie come out here and do a song, sits on his lap. 1.00
01:42:42.000 They sing.
01:42:43.000 Her voice cracks.
01:42:45.000 He smacks her across the face. 1.00
01:42:47.000 He goes, are you fucking it up? 1.00
01:42:48.000 The audience is booing. 0.99
01:42:49.000 He goes, don't boo.
01:42:50.000 You're just going to make her cry more.
01:42:52.000 And it wasn't even a kid.
01:42:53.000 It's an actress.
01:42:54.000 You know what I mean?
01:42:55.000 Of course, yeah.
01:42:55.000 But that was just beautiful trolling.
01:42:58.000 Yeah.
01:42:59.000 Well, he used to, Kaufman used to go on stage and sing the Mighty Mouse theme song.
01:43:03.000 But just the Mighty Mouse part, yeah.
01:43:05.000 Here I come to save the day.
01:43:08.000 He did the special, and I think it was ABC Refused to Air for Two Years.
01:43:12.000 And one of the parts, it was like Pee-wee's Playhouse for Pee-wee's Playhouse.
01:43:15.000 He had a girl from Sound of Music, and she's like, oh, she's starting to restart her career.
01:43:19.000 He called it Has Been Corner.
01:43:22.000 And she comes out, he goes, so at what point did you realize you weren't going to make it in show business?
01:43:26.000 I mean, it's just...
01:43:27.000 And she's in on it?
01:43:29.000 Right.
01:43:30.000 You know, but it's just...
01:43:31.000 You're sitting there like, oh my god.
01:43:33.000 Even if you're in on it, it's got a sting.
01:43:35.000 And she's like, oh...
01:43:36.000 It's actually real.
01:43:36.000 I'm trying to restart my career.
01:43:37.000 He goes, well, I don't think it's going to happen for you, but good luck.
01:43:40.000 And you're just like, oh my god.
01:43:42.000 Well, how about when he was wrestling women? 0.63
01:43:44.000 That was a sexual thing.
01:43:46.000 But, yeah, I'm sure.
01:43:47.000 But it was also trolling.
01:43:49.000 Is it?
01:43:49.000 Yeah.
01:43:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:43:51.000 He was screaming and yelling at them.
01:43:52.000 Oh, that part.
01:43:53.000 But yeah, yeah.
01:43:54.000 But that I'm not a fan of. 1.00
01:43:56.000 Dude, the fucking people at the wrestling arenas, they wanted to kill him. 1.00
01:43:59.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:44:00.000 They wanted to fucking kill him. 1.00
01:44:01.000 They thought it was real. 1.00
01:44:02.000 I got Dolph Ziggler coming up on my show tomorrow.
01:44:06.000 And he came out once dressed as The Undertaker.
01:44:10.000 And the audience, when he pulls off that head, we're like booing, goes, oh, you thought it was really going to be him?
01:44:14.000 You only see him once a year. 0.99
01:44:15.000 So he fucking comes dressed as other wrestlers just to troll the audience. 1.00
01:44:18.000 I love that shit. 1.00
01:44:20.000 Well, you got to think also when Kaufman was doing this, there was real discussion as to whether or not wrestling was real. 1.00
01:44:26.000 Yeah.
01:44:27.000 This is a different time.
01:44:28.000 Yeah.
01:44:29.000 It's amazing.
01:44:30.000 You can look back at these arguments and people are like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's totally fucking real.
01:44:34.000 No, he was taken...
01:44:35.000 Do you know what's really, though, what's fascinating, though, because with the rise of MMA... Yeah, I just saw like the WWE at Mass Square Garden.
01:44:41.000 We know what the dynamics of fighting looks like, right?
01:44:44.000 But the wrestlers, it's still the same motions.
01:44:48.000 It's like, we know that if you hit someone here, how they actually react, because we've seen it thousands of times for real.
01:44:54.000 But you guys are still like, if someone punches you in the neck, you're not going to be passed out on the floor.
01:44:59.000 It was also like some wrestlers got upset because I was explaining that a figure four leg lock doesn't work.
01:45:04.000 Not only does it not work, but you're setting yourself up for heel hook.
01:45:08.000 Okay.
01:45:08.000 I'm like, let me explain.
01:45:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:09.000 And they were mad.
01:45:10.000 Like, how dare you disrespect wrestling?
01:45:13.000 It's also like if you clothesline someone, that's going to hurt you.
01:45:17.000 No, no, no.
01:45:18.000 That's not true.
01:45:19.000 If someone 200 pounds hits me here, it's not going to hurt my shoulder?
01:45:23.000 No, no. 0.99
01:45:24.000 Okay, then I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about in this issue. 1.00
01:45:26.000 No, I'll fuck you up with a clothesline. 1.00
01:45:29.000 Dude, you're just hitting someone in the head with your forearm. 1.00
01:45:32.000 You could fuck somebody up with a clothesline. 1.00
01:45:34.000 Really? 1.00
01:45:35.000 100%.
01:45:35.000 In the neck?
01:45:37.000 100%.
01:45:37.000 But it's not going to hurt you?
01:45:38.000 No!
01:45:39.000 I mean, it might.
01:45:40.000 Okay.
01:45:40.000 Look, every time you punch someone, you can break your hand.
01:45:42.000 Sure, sure.
01:45:43.000 But no, you can clothesline someone. 1.00
01:45:45.000 That shit's totally legit. 1.00
01:45:46.000 Not only that, people get KO'd from that all the time. 1.00
01:45:48.000 It's like a leg...
01:45:50.000 Like, if you kick someone in the neck, right?
01:45:52.000 Like, if someone gets neck kicked, they go out. 0.94
01:45:54.000 Right?
01:45:54.000 Sure.
01:45:55.000 A lot of times.
01:45:56.000 You could do that with your arm.
01:45:57.000 Same thing.
01:45:58.000 Same motion.
01:45:59.000 Your shin is stronger, for sure, than your forearm.
01:46:02.000 But especially this way, see, there's two bones, right?
01:46:06.000 There's the ulnar and what's the...
01:46:08.000 Tibia, fibia?
01:46:09.000 No, that's your leg. 0.99
01:46:10.000 Okay.
01:46:10.000 Tibia is, I broke the fibula, the smaller one.
01:46:15.000 Or the tibia, which one?
01:46:16.000 I broke the little one.
01:46:17.000 Which one's the big one?
01:46:18.000 Which one's your shin?
01:46:21.000 Your femur's the top, and then I think it's the tibia and the fibula.
01:46:25.000 I think it's the fibula I broke.
01:46:27.000 I broke the one...
01:46:28.000 What's that?
01:46:28.000 The tibia is the bigger one.
01:46:29.000 Yeah, I broke the smaller one once. 0.99
01:46:31.000 It was fucking gross. 0.99
01:46:32.000 It was really painful. 0.99
01:46:33.000 And they couldn't do anything about it.
01:46:35.000 It was just a hairline fracture.
01:46:36.000 Oh! 0.60
01:46:37.000 See, that guy just got clotheslined by this dude.
01:46:40.000 Boom.
01:46:40.000 Okay, you're right.
01:46:41.000 That's a cop.
01:46:41.000 But the cop doesn't know how to land it.
01:46:44.000 Look, he went down with it, too. 1.00
01:46:45.000 He probably broke his fucking arm. 1.00
01:46:47.000 That's how you get fucked up. 1.00
01:46:48.000 That cop broke his arm. 1.00
01:46:49.000 See?
01:46:49.000 That cop's barely using his arm.
01:46:51.000 It definitely works out.
01:46:52.000 Okay.
01:46:53.000 Yeah, like in the UFC... Well, the thing is, like, my point was, I think the big...
01:46:58.000 Where's the big bone?
01:46:59.000 Where's the little bone?
01:47:00.000 I think in the front...
01:47:02.000 This happens all the time.
01:47:03.000 Guys get kicked and this bone breaks.
01:47:06.000 Well, actually, sometimes both of the bones break.
01:47:08.000 But with a spinning back fist, when they're landing it, a lot of times they're landing it with their forearm.
01:47:15.000 They're not landing it with the actual fist.
01:47:17.000 What about Randy Savage?
01:47:19.000 If you're jumping off the top rope on your elbow, won't you break your elbow or kill the person if you're landing on his neck? 0.98
01:47:25.000 You will hurt him for sure.
01:47:28.000 And you're slamming down the elbow, it's definitely got more force.
01:47:32.000 But when you're getting on top of someone, and you're smashing with elbows, which you can do in MMA, you can generate incredible amounts of force.
01:47:39.000 If you ever watch a guy work out on a heavy bag, where the heavy bag's on the ground, they work the ground and pound, just boom, boom! 0.99
01:47:45.000 I mean, you think about that being your fucking head, it's great. 0.97
01:47:48.000 And if you're 200 pounds, 250, jumping off a rope on an elbow at a small point, I would think that would... 0.99
01:47:54.000 I mean, break something in there.
01:47:55.000 It could.
01:47:56.000 It could just really hurt.
01:47:57.000 There's something not hitting him, though.
01:47:58.000 That's the part of the thing.
01:47:59.000 He doesn't hit him.
01:48:00.000 Right, sure.
01:48:00.000 But if that were for real...
01:48:01.000 But just that, first of all, the reality is just that alone.
01:48:05.000 I mean, even though he only, like, bounces off of him a little bit.
01:48:08.000 Yeah, he's just got it down where he lands first with the feet.
01:48:12.000 If you watch the impact...
01:48:14.000 If you slow it down, the feet land first, and then he's absorbing all of it, and he lands the side of his body on the guy's chest.
01:48:24.000 But it's a secondary impact.
01:48:26.000 Boom, see?
01:48:27.000 It's like one, two.
01:48:29.000 It's like one, two, and he doesn't hit him that hard. 0.99
01:48:32.000 But he hits him hard enough that it sucks. 0.94
01:48:34.000 It ain't fun to be a wrestler. 0.97
01:48:36.000 It's a tough gig. 1.00
01:48:37.000 But that shit would work. 1.00
01:48:38.000 Clotheslining someone would work. 1.00
01:48:40.000 It's just not ideal.
01:48:42.000 The ideal thing to do is just palm them in the face. 0.95
01:48:45.000 If you could clothesline them, you could also just palm them in the face.
01:48:49.000 The good thing about the palm in the face is that, first of all, it's extremely difficult to break your palm.
01:48:55.000 Like this, think about what you can do.
01:48:58.000 This is an oak table, and I'm slamming my hand into it.
01:49:01.000 I have no pain at all.
01:49:03.000 You can't do that with any other part of your body.
01:49:04.000 You can't kick it like that with your shin.
01:49:07.000 You know, you can't punch it like that with your knuckles.
01:49:10.000 Even your elbow kind of hurts more than your palm. 0.98
01:49:13.000 The palm, you can really fucking smack that. 0.95
01:49:14.000 Well, here you've got the funny bone, too. 0.98
01:49:15.000 Yes.
01:49:16.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:49:16.000 But you could fuck somebody up with an elbow, though. 0.99
01:49:18.000 Sure. 0.99
01:49:18.000 Like, in Muay Thai, it's one of the eight points of contact. 0.99
01:49:21.000 A palm strike.
01:49:22.000 If someone's charging out, you just smack them.
01:49:24.000 You could have a tremendous impact on your hand and still get away with it and knock someone out.
01:49:30.000 John Hackleman, who is Chuck Liddell's former trainer, trainer of...
01:49:34.000 Actually, current trainer, if he still works out.
01:49:37.000 Trainer of Glover Teixeira, just one of the best guys in MMA. He has these little videos on his Instagram.
01:49:43.000 I think it's The Pit.
01:49:46.000 Pitmaster on Instagram talking about street self-defense things and he's always advocating hitting people with your palm.
01:49:52.000 People break their hands all the time.
01:49:54.000 Isn't that the whole thing? 0.68
01:49:54.000 Hit them in the nose to kind of... 0.68
01:49:55.000 That's not real. 0.98
01:49:56.000 That's not real?
01:49:56.000 The idea of drive the bone up to the brain.
01:49:59.000 You'll break their nose. 0.98
01:50:00.000 Not that you're going to kill them, but that's the easiest self-defense. 1.00
01:50:02.000 Hit him anywhere, even the side of the head. 1.00
01:50:04.000 But the idea is hitting him with the palm. 0.96
01:50:06.000 I thought you were going to say, when I said that's not real.
01:50:08.000 There was one where kids, it was like a karate movie.
01:50:11.000 The guy would hit the palm up to the nose, the nose bone would go into the brain, it would kill someone.
01:50:16.000 That happened in like a Seagal movie. 0.78
01:50:19.000 Smash him in the nose.
01:50:20.000 I thought you were going to say that. 0.85
01:50:21.000 But the idea is that you could just, without worry of consequences, you could palm strike someone in the face like really hard and never break your hand.
01:50:29.000 A regular person throwing a punch, you have a real good chance of breaking your hand.
01:50:33.000 Okay.
01:50:34.000 Real good chance.
01:50:35.000 Like if you crack someone in the forehead, most likely you're going to break your hand or your wrist or something else. 0.97
01:50:40.000 But with your palms, you could just fucking waylay somebody. 0.99
01:50:43.000 You could smack the shit out of somebody with your palms. 1.00
01:50:45.000 But then you look kind of silly. 1.00
01:50:46.000 You do it. 0.95
01:50:47.000 There was an organization, an MMA organization back in the early days called Pancrase.
01:50:52.000 I think they might be still around, but they have modified rules.
01:50:54.000 But at Pancrase, back in the day, they wore wrestling shoes with shin pads, and they wore little tiny speedos, and they would smack each other with their hands.
01:51:03.000 So they would kick and punch and do submission techniques.
01:51:06.000 It was...
01:51:10.000 We're good to go.
01:51:25.000 He's a badass striker.
01:51:27.000 So he learned how to pull his hands way back, and he would just throw them like punches.
01:51:31.000 He would just do the same motions that he would do with a punch, but just smash guys with his palms.
01:51:37.000 And he was lighting people up like a Christmas tree in Pancrase with that. 0.85
01:51:40.000 It's horrific to watch.
01:51:42.000 He KO'd a bunch of people with his palms.
01:51:44.000 Huh.
01:51:45.000 See if you watch Boss Root and KO... Put Boss Root and KO's Funaki.
01:51:50.000 He KO'd Funaki, who is like an elite... 0.81
01:51:54.000 MMA fighter.
01:51:54.000 He was Hickson Gracie's last opponent when Hickson was fighting MMA. But Funaki, I think, started out in Pank Race and Boss Root and KO'd him.
01:52:04.000 And the way he KO'd him was like a punch, but he was doing it with his palms and just smashing people.
01:52:14.000 It's just like, your hand...
01:52:15.000 Like, there's a lot of things you think wouldn't work.
01:52:18.000 Clothesline's one of them. 1.00
01:52:19.000 That shit would work. 1.00
01:52:20.000 Okay. 1.00
01:52:20.000 That's my point. 1.00
01:52:21.000 Not the honky-tonk band's move, though.
01:52:23.000 What's the honky-tonk?
01:52:24.000 The shake, rattle, and roll, and he just flips him on his back.
01:52:26.000 It's like, why does this even hurt?
01:52:28.000 You don't remember this?
01:52:29.000 You didn't watch wrestling in the 80s?
01:52:30.000 No.
01:52:30.000 Well, how about the DDT? Here.
01:52:32.000 So here's Boss.
01:52:33.000 Look at that knee.
01:52:34.000 He KO'd him with the knee. 0.98
01:52:35.000 Oh, my God, that face.
01:52:35.000 Yeah, but back up before that.
01:52:37.000 Back up before that.
01:52:37.000 Here.
01:52:38.000 Watch how he's hitting him. 1.00
01:52:41.000 Boss was a fucking gorilla back then. 1.00
01:52:43.000 Look at the sides of him. 1.00
01:52:44.000 He's smacking the shit out of him. 0.99
01:52:47.000 See how he's hitting him with his hands? 0.99
01:52:48.000 He's throwing him like punches, but his knee is what did it.
01:52:51.000 Boom! 0.99
01:52:52.000 Yeah, Boss was a beast, man. 1.00
01:52:53.000 He was a fucking beast. 0.99
01:52:56.000 He was probably the first really elite striker that we saw in MMA. Where you're like, whoa. 1.00
01:53:04.000 Like, this is what can happen.
01:53:05.000 Like, when he was kicking people in Pancras, everybody was like, whoa. 1.00
01:53:09.000 Like, this guy can fucking kick. 0.99
01:53:11.000 Like, you're seeing a lot of guys who were kicking that were kind of like karate-based. 0.99
01:53:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:53:16.000 Maybe they didn't have as much power.
01:53:18.000 But Bas was, he was a Dutch kickbox. 1.00
01:53:20.000 He was smashing people.
01:53:22.000 Boom! 1.00
01:53:23.000 He looked scary as shit, too. 1.00
01:53:24.000 Oh, he was a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:53:26.000 Bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:53:27.000 He won the UFC heavyweight title. 1.00
01:53:28.000 He was the first guy ever, I think, in my recollection, to win a title off of his back from strikes.
01:53:39.000 He fought Kevin Randleman.
01:53:40.000 Kevin Randleman, as a badass wrestler, kept taking him down. 0.81
01:53:42.000 And Boss was beating the shit out of him from the bottom, throwing elbows.
01:53:47.000 And they gave him a decision, which a lot of people disagreed with. 0.89
01:53:49.000 But I was like, man, you look at the volume of strikes landed.
01:53:52.000 Boss landed way more.
01:53:54.000 Just being on top is not good enough.
01:53:56.000 You have to actually do something with the position.
01:53:58.000 Huh.
01:53:59.000 Okay.
01:54:00.000 This is not a subject I'm an expert in.
01:54:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:04.000 Yeah, this is the old school body kick. 1.00
01:54:07.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00
01:54:08.000 Fucked people up, man! 1.00
01:54:10.000 Boss Rootin' was no joke, man. 1.00
01:54:13.000 Dude, he was fucking people up. 0.97
01:54:15.000 Nobody had seen anything like that. 0.98
01:54:17.000 Those guys just couldn't strike like that.
01:54:19.000 They didn't have that kind of power.
01:54:21.000 But then, like all things, it caught up.
01:54:24.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:54:25.000 Oh, good lord.
01:54:26.000 In the UFC, then they got...
01:54:28.000 There was some elite fighters that started showing up in the UFC. Orlando Veet.
01:54:33.000 Smashing Machine?
01:54:34.000 Mark Kerr?
01:54:34.000 Mark Kerr, yeah.
01:54:35.000 He was different, man.
01:54:36.000 He was a wrestler.
01:54:37.000 He was a wrestler slash science project.
01:54:40.000 Yeah, he was juiced up real good.
01:54:42.000 Oh my god.
01:54:43.000 That's to put it mildly.
01:54:44.000 It was a great documentary.
01:54:45.000 Yeah, The Smashing Machine.
01:54:46.000 Oh, you saw it?
01:54:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:54:47.000 It's amazing.
01:54:48.000 They caught him.
01:54:49.000 They were...
01:54:50.000 That documentary, the purpose of it was initially to catch him...
01:54:53.000 As the scariest fighter on the planet.
01:54:56.000 This guy who was just this Goliath, who was just dominating people in Japan. 0.91
01:55:00.000 But in the process of documenting it, he was falling apart.
01:55:04.000 That's him when he was at his biggest.
01:55:07.000 His neck would start at his ears, man.
01:55:11.000 The size of him!
01:55:12.000 And he was very skillful as well.
01:55:15.000 I mean, just really good wrestler.
01:55:15.000 He was an All-American wrestler before that, right?
01:55:17.000 Elite wrestler.
01:55:19.000 And just gigantic.
01:55:21.000 Look at that upper left-hand picture.
01:55:23.000 Upper left.
01:55:23.000 Look at that one.
01:55:24.000 It's the same one.
01:55:25.000 Yeah, but click on that.
01:55:26.000 That's the one I started with.
01:55:27.000 No, why is it?
01:55:28.000 No, that's different.
01:55:29.000 It's very different.
01:55:29.000 It's the same photo.
01:55:30.000 No, it's not.
01:55:31.000 It's just different effects.
01:55:32.000 Same exact photo.
01:55:32.000 Yeah, but look at that one.
01:55:33.000 That one looks like shit. 1.00
01:55:34.000 Go to the other one again. 1.00
01:55:35.000 That's a different version of it. 1.00
01:55:37.000 Look at the fucking... 1.00
01:55:38.000 Jesus Christ! 1.00
01:55:40.000 That is insane.
01:55:41.000 The fact that a person could get to look like that, that is insane.
01:55:45.000 There's guys that look like that at my gym. 1.00
01:55:47.000 Fuck you all at Harvard Fitness who are listening to this show in the locker room while my scrawny ass is right there and you don't even notice me. 1.00
01:55:55.000 You wonder what it's like walking around looking like that. 1.00
01:55:58.000 Well, you could find out if you took all those same steroids.
01:56:01.000 Yeah, but they're also like six, you know.
01:56:02.000 Yeah.
01:56:03.000 You'd be a mini version of that.
01:56:04.000 Yeah, I'd be, yeah.
01:56:06.000 Like Lee Priest, yeah.
01:56:07.000 Do you lift weights?
01:56:08.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:56:09.000 What kind of shit do you do? 1.00
01:56:10.000 I have a split six days a week. 1.00
01:56:14.000 Do you have a trainer?
01:56:15.000 Yeah.
01:56:16.000 Oh, look at you.
01:56:16.000 Michael Wolff.
01:56:18.000 Shout out to Michael Wolff.
01:56:19.000 Yeah.
01:56:19.000 He's like a deadlift guy.
01:56:20.000 Oh, he's a deadlift guy.
01:56:21.000 But it's also important for me psychologically.
01:56:23.000 And for people who are depressed or anxious, I sometimes have a lot of downtime.
01:56:29.000 So if I go to the gym, I can tell my brain, I'm objectively a better person than yesterday, and I did something today.
01:56:37.000 So it really helps with keeping you mentally grounded.
01:56:40.000 I'm never going to get jacked, but I learned this from Matt Hughes.
01:56:44.000 Matt Hughes is the first one to take me to the gym.
01:56:46.000 Really?
01:56:46.000 Matt Hughes was the first one to take you to a gym?
01:56:48.000 Yeah, I co-authored his book.
01:56:49.000 Wow.
01:56:50.000 And I realized I don't have to look like Mark Kerr.
01:56:54.000 I could still look like a better version of me.
01:56:56.000 Yes.
01:56:56.000 And when you have that realization, it's very liberating.
01:57:00.000 The mental health benefits are gigantic.
01:57:03.000 People need to realize that.
01:57:04.000 And the thing is, other people who are like really – like the first day I went, I was all nervous and I didn't know what I'm doing.
01:57:09.000 And there was a guy, I wish I could thank him.
01:57:11.000 He's like, are you done with this machine?
01:57:12.000 And I'm like, yeah.
01:57:13.000 He goes, thanks, brother.
01:57:14.000 I'm like, all right.
01:57:15.000 No one here is judging you. 1.00
01:57:16.000 Everyone's doing their own shit. 0.98
01:57:17.000 And if you're – You're happy you're working out. 1.00
01:57:19.000 And if you're fat, everyone's cheering you on.
01:57:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:57:22.000 They're like, fuck yeah. 1.00
01:57:24.000 You're getting it. 1.00
01:57:24.000 Good for you. 1.00
01:57:25.000 The opposite of what people would think.
01:57:27.000 Yeah.
01:57:27.000 So no one cares.
01:57:31.000 I really recommend it.
01:57:33.000 Yeah, a lot of gyms have a good culture of support, a good culture of encouragement.
01:57:38.000 There's a reason why a lot of people that are on Instagram are...
01:57:43.000 Yeah.
01:58:09.000 Everything seems more rational.
01:58:11.000 And I have people follow me on Twitter, Insta, like jack people, and they give me advice, and they're very supportive.
01:58:16.000 Yes.
01:58:17.000 And that's the real big misconception, I guess, from those movies.
01:58:20.000 The same rom-coms will tell you that the guy who's like a big guy is a bully, and sometimes he is, but most of the people who are like serious about fitness, they want other people to be like, come on, this will be great for you.
01:58:32.000 Yeah, I think most people's experience with bullies is really high school stuff, right?
01:58:36.000 It's like jocks in high school, and a lot of them are just, as we were saying, insecure.
01:58:40.000 And a lot of them are also probably, it's probably their experience at home from their dad.
01:58:45.000 And I think that's changed a lot, because thanks to the internet now, I think the jocks...
01:58:50.000 Respect the nerds a lot more.
01:58:51.000 When I was working with Hughes and I met all those fighters, they could not be friendlier or more like, hey, you're doing your thing.
01:58:58.000 I do my thing.
01:59:00.000 I can relate to that.
01:59:01.000 That's awesome. 1.00
01:59:02.000 So there was no, oh, look at this pussy or whatever like that. 1.00
01:59:07.000 Well, fighters are a lot nicer than people think. 0.99
01:59:10.000 Because they're so disciplined.
01:59:12.000 It's that for sure. 1.00
01:59:13.000 And they know what it's like to get their ass kicked. 1.00
01:59:14.000 And it's humbling. 0.99
01:59:16.000 Masoyama, who's a famous karate guy, he said it's not that fighters are any nicer.
01:59:23.000 Karatika, he was calling it.
01:59:24.000 Karate practitioners were any nicer.
01:59:27.000 It's just they're tired from training.
01:59:31.000 He might be right, but they do behave nicer because of that.
01:59:34.000 It's both.
01:59:36.000 But I think it's also, one of the things I love about the internet is that if you're doing your thing now, people respect someone else who's doing their own weird thing.
01:59:44.000 Yeah.
01:59:44.000 As opposed to when we were kids, there'd be that one weirdo.
01:59:46.000 Like, I had this tweet.
01:59:47.000 There's two types of people, right?
01:59:49.000 If you learn someone is a guinea pig breeder, there's two approaches. 0.96
01:59:53.000 You're weird. 1.00
01:59:54.000 What the fuck's wrong with you? 1.00
01:59:55.000 Or sit down and tell me everything. 1.00
01:59:57.000 Yeah.
01:59:58.000 And I'm very much...
01:59:59.000 And people who follow me are the second one.
02:00:00.000 It's like, you're doing your thing.
02:00:02.000 It gives you joy and passion.
02:00:03.000 I've never heard of it.
02:00:04.000 Let me know.
02:00:05.000 I want to know.
02:00:06.000 Dude, I watched an episode of Anthony Bourdain's old show.
02:00:10.000 It was called No Reservations.
02:00:11.000 And he was in...
02:00:13.000 I forget what country it was.
02:00:15.000 But these people bred guinea pigs for food.
02:00:18.000 Oh, yeah.
02:00:19.000 South America.
02:00:20.000 Yeah, they had guinea pigs running around the house. 0.98
02:00:23.000 Oh, they were all over the place.
02:00:24.000 Yeah.
02:00:24.000 And then when they wanted to cook something, they reached out and grabbed a guinea pig, just picked it up and killed it.
02:00:29.000 Oh, yeah.
02:00:30.000 And cooked it. 0.99
02:00:30.000 And all the other guinea pigs didn't even fucking notice. 0.99
02:00:32.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
02:00:32.000 They're so domestic. 0.99
02:00:33.000 They don't notice. 1.00
02:00:34.000 They're really dumb. 1.00
02:00:35.000 But they don't – it's a good argument for eating guinea pigs. 1.00
02:00:39.000 It's like they don't seem to miss their friend.
02:00:41.000 I just got – someone just PayPal'd me a contribution, 300 bucks, Adam. 1.00
02:00:46.000 And he says, go out to dinner or buy something stupid. 1.00
02:00:49.000 So you bought a guinea pig? 1.00
02:00:50.000 Hold on.
02:00:51.000 No, better. 0.99
02:00:51.000 If someone says this is for stupid things, I'm like, all right, it's an order. 0.99
02:00:55.000 It's your money. 1.00
02:00:56.000 So I bought some stupid things. 1.00
02:00:58.000 I'm going to give you some money. 1.00
02:00:59.000 I got this.
02:01:02.000 And I'm like, elephant is unethical.
02:01:05.000 They recognize themselves in mirror.
02:01:07.000 They have a social structure.
02:01:08.000 This is giraffe. 1.00
02:01:10.000 It's stupid. 1.00
02:01:10.000 I got a giraffe leather wallet. 1.00
02:01:12.000 Let me see that.
02:01:12.000 Here you go.
02:01:14.000 But it's nice, and it's stupid. 0.99
02:01:16.000 Giraffes are so nice. 1.00
02:01:17.000 They're dumb. 1.00
02:01:18.000 They're like cows. 1.00
02:01:19.000 Are they dumb or are they just docile? 1.00
02:01:21.000 No, they're dumb. 1.00
02:01:21.000 They're dumb. 1.00
02:01:22.000 Are you sure? 1.00
02:01:22.000 I'm positive. 1.00
02:01:23.000 My friend's parents each own a zoo, and I've gone with him to different zoos. 1.00
02:01:30.000 Giraffes are very dumb. 1.00
02:01:32.000 But they're so peaceful that they let little kids feed them at the zoo. 1.00
02:01:36.000 That's one of the only animals where they let people feed them. 0.91
02:01:39.000 That's true.
02:01:40.000 And they just reach out with their tongue.
02:01:41.000 I'll never forget that.
02:01:42.000 My daughter was like two, taking her to the zoo, and her giggling and laughing when the big crazy tongue comes out and grabs the lettuce. 1.00
02:01:49.000 They can clean their ears with their tongue.
02:01:53.000 Yeah.
02:01:53.000 That was a joke that I used to have about how they're the only animal that I could point to that's a wild animal that doesn't seem to have any problem with domestication.
02:02:02.000 Yeah.
02:02:02.000 When they're at the zoo, they're like, another day with no lions and just strolling around.
02:02:07.000 Did you ever see that blue planet where the lions are trying to kill the giraffe?
02:02:35.000 Where do you draw the line when it comes to leather or different animals?
02:02:39.000 It's a good question.
02:02:40.000 Yeah.
02:02:44.000 I've gotten very, very interested in elephants, you know, in terms of like their social structure and what they're like and learning about how intelligent they are and how long their memory is.
02:02:54.000 And I don't want to have anything to do with elephant leather.
02:02:57.000 Or ivory, unless it's pre-band.
02:02:59.000 I bought a cue a long time ago that had elephant ear as a wrap.
02:03:04.000 Okay.
02:03:05.000 Yeah.
02:03:05.000 And I didn't think anything of it, but now I think, like, ooh.
02:03:08.000 Yeah, that's my line.
02:03:10.000 Like, they have elephant wallets, and I was like, no, I'm not comfortable with this.
02:03:14.000 But here's the thing, man. 0.99
02:03:15.000 Pigs are super fucking smart. 0.99
02:03:18.000 Pigs are real sweet, and when you domesticate them, like, people have domesticated pigs that, as long as they're well-fed, they behave a lot like dogs. 0.99
02:03:26.000 The only difference being, of course, if you fall in the pig pen, they will fucking eat you. 0.99
02:03:30.000 And they do, often. 0.99
02:03:33.000 That's a very common way for farmers to die. 0.98
02:03:35.000 They fall in the pig pen and they find scraps of clothes and like, oh my god, and just a puddle of blood, whatever the fuck is left. 0.83
02:03:43.000 Yeah, so now, thankfully, they're coming out with this kind of synthetic food, you know, the synthetic meat. 0.88
02:03:49.000 That mimics people? 0.91
02:03:49.000 No, that mimics pork or chicken. 0.91
02:03:51.000 It's not mimicking, it's actual chicken cells or pork cells or whatever.
02:03:54.000 Yes, yes, yes.
02:03:55.000 And that's going to be a great day.
02:03:56.000 Yeah, that brings me to the Beyond Burger that people keep...
02:04:00.000 Google this, because I want to make sure this is true.
02:04:02.000 Someone sent me this, I didn't have the time to check.
02:04:05.000 Beyond Meat tests positive for glyphosate.
02:04:10.000 What's glyphosate?
02:04:11.000 Glyphosate is Roundup. 0.99
02:04:12.000 Masanto is very fucking dangerous. 0.99
02:04:15.000 We're good to go. 0.99
02:04:37.000 But I was reading that it's a non-meat-based burger that's supposed to taste pretty similar to meat.
02:04:45.000 I haven't had one.
02:04:46.000 No, but what I'm saying is now they've figured out how to take cells and replicate them.
02:04:49.000 It actually is meat.
02:04:50.000 But it's ethically because no animal is being killed, which is the ideal.
02:04:54.000 I just wonder if it's dangerous for you.
02:04:56.000 But this glyphosate thing, I need to find out if this is correct.
02:04:59.000 That's the only reason why I brought it up.
02:05:00.000 I just remembered.
02:05:02.000 And I think it's important for people to have – this is one of the best things about that whole kind of paleo whole foods situation of know what – if you're going to act in a certain way towards your food, know what you're doing and be happy to draw that line about, okay, what are you comfortable with and defend your decision.
02:05:18.000 Yeah.
02:05:20.000 What are you willing to kill?
02:05:22.000 My friend Chris Pratt, he's got a farm.
02:05:26.000 He's got his own thing that he does.
02:05:29.000 He takes lamb and he puts the rod on their head and puts them to sleep.
02:05:36.000 They have no idea what's going to happen and then they just die instantly.
02:05:39.000 He made this really detailed post on Instagram about it.
02:05:44.000 People got super upset with him.
02:05:46.000 You know, that he talked about this as a peaceful thing and that he has these animals that he loves and cares for and you see pictures of him like touching them and holding them and then later they're packaged up as meat.
02:05:59.000 And I'm like, but...
02:06:01.000 But if you saw just a steak, you wouldn't have a problem with it.
02:06:05.000 Like if someone said, look, I cooked this steak, you'd get a lot of people like, ooh, that looks good. 0.99
02:06:08.000 But if it's like, I killed this animal and now I'm going to cook it, people are like, you're a monster.
02:06:14.000 But everyone has to, other than getting hit by a car or something, people have to put down their dogs and their cats.
02:06:19.000 So maybe this is not, and that lamb is being bred for that purpose.
02:06:23.000 And it's being done painlessly.
02:06:25.000 That's the important thing.
02:06:26.000 And I'm sure that lamb had a good life, and it wasn't a factory-crowded, shoulder-to-shoulder existence of torture situation.
02:06:32.000 Yeah, I'm sure, but it's a very quick life.
02:06:34.000 You know, a lamb is a baby.
02:06:35.000 Sure.
02:06:36.000 Lamb's a baby sheep.
02:06:36.000 But nature's about us eating babies.
02:06:38.000 Yeah, I haven't had mutton.
02:06:40.000 I haven't had, like, a sheep-sheep.
02:06:42.000 That's such a British thing, and it's always in these old storybooks you'd read, but now I don't think sheep become adult unless they're for their hair.
02:06:50.000 Well, I've had wild sheep.
02:06:52.000 My friend Remy, Remy Warren, he gave me some wild sheep backstrap.
02:06:59.000 It was very good.
02:07:00.000 Some wild sheep that he killed.
02:07:03.000 While I'm here, I'm going to try hagfish.
02:07:07.000 Have you ever had that? 0.98
02:07:08.000 That's that weird fucking slimy thing? 0.97
02:07:10.000 Yeah, at the bottom of the ocean. 0.98
02:07:11.000 How do they cook that? 0.88
02:07:13.000 It's Korean barbecue.
02:07:14.000 Really?
02:07:14.000 There's one place here that has it.
02:07:16.000 Oh, like super legit Korean barbecue.
02:07:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:07:19.000 They're cooking hagfish.
02:07:20.000 Yeah, well I'm cooking it I guess technically.
02:07:21.000 What does it taste like?
02:07:22.000 I haven't tried it yet.
02:07:23.000 I can't wait.
02:07:24.000 What's the reports?
02:07:25.000 Uh, not that good.
02:07:27.000 I'm not surprised.
02:07:28.000 Please sign me up.
02:07:29.000 Well, since I have a zoology background, I'm like Noah, but I want to eat two of every animal.
02:07:34.000 Have you had jellyfish yet?
02:07:35.000 I haven't.
02:07:36.000 It's tasteless.
02:07:36.000 It's weird, right?
02:07:37.000 It's like plastic.
02:07:38.000 It's the sauce that has a taste.
02:07:39.000 It's crunchy.
02:07:39.000 It's strange.
02:07:40.000 I ate at a restaurant that's in the Wynn.
02:07:44.000 Yeah, it's in the Wynn.
02:07:46.000 And it's the only five-star Chinese restaurant in the country, or in North America.
02:07:51.000 It was insanely good.
02:07:54.000 You realize, wow, it's true.
02:07:56.000 You don't see a whole lot of gourmet, super high-end Chinese restaurants.
02:08:02.000 Did you have anything weird there?
02:08:03.000 Yeah, I had that.
02:08:04.000 I had jellyfish.
02:08:06.000 Sea cucumber?
02:08:06.000 No, I didn't have that.
02:08:07.000 I had abalone.
02:08:08.000 That was not that tasty.
02:08:10.000 A lot of times it's like credit cards, abalone.
02:08:12.000 It wasn't that tasty.
02:08:13.000 I've had abalone before and I liked it.
02:08:16.000 I like it.
02:08:16.000 I don't love it.
02:08:17.000 It's expensive too.
02:08:18.000 What do you got, Jamie?
02:08:20.000 So, from a couple articles I just found, the issue seems to be in pea protein, which is what is used to make these burgers.
02:08:27.000 And what I found about what you were saying is the Impossible Burger actually tested 11 times higher when tested.
02:08:34.000 For glyphosate, then they'd be on meat burger, which is, there's two different versions of what's available.
02:08:38.000 Wait, wait, wait.
02:08:39.000 I eat pea protein protein chips every day.
02:08:41.000 Is that a problem?
02:08:42.000 So, there's an article I found.
02:08:43.000 I bet you're getting some glyphosate.
02:08:44.000 What does that mean?
02:08:45.000 It's not good.
02:08:46.000 It says pea protein could have its own concerns.
02:08:48.000 The Detox Project, a research organization looking into pesticides of glyphosate, has been looking into it for over a year.
02:08:54.000 It says that there is an issue.
02:08:57.000 We can hardly find a clean protein anywhere.
02:08:59.000 It says...
02:08:59.000 The results like those for other products tested for the popular pesticides aren't pretty.
02:09:05.000 We can hardly find a clean pea protein source anywhere.
02:09:08.000 Jesus Christ, it's all got glyphosate.
02:09:11.000 But I still don't know what glyphosate does to me.
02:09:14.000 Okay, glyphosate, this is the idea, okay?
02:09:16.000 And please Google this because the argument was glyphosate is great because it just kills the weeds and bacteria and it doesn't kill people.
02:09:26.000 You can actually drink it.
02:09:27.000 But the problem they're saying is, no, no, no.
02:09:29.000 You have bacteria in your body.
02:09:32.000 So if you're taking in glyphosate, you're killing the bacteria in your body.
02:09:37.000 It might not kill you, but it's not good for you and it fucks up your system.
02:09:41.000 Okay.
02:09:42.000 This is the argument, I guess, that they use to present in court.
02:09:46.000 They must have used this to get the jury to award them $2 billion in damage.
02:09:51.000 Cancer.
02:09:52.000 That's not a good word.
02:09:53.000 Monsanto parent company Bayer faces thousands of Roundup cancer cases after $2 billion verdict.
02:10:00.000 13,000 cases right now.
02:10:01.000 Yeah.
02:10:02.000 Listen, man.
02:10:03.000 This thing...
02:10:04.000 I don't know.
02:10:05.000 See, this is the problem. 1.00
02:10:07.000 First of all, I'm a moron. 0.98
02:10:08.000 I don't know anything about any of the science behind this. 0.98
02:10:11.000 When I read this, I see two different camps.
02:10:13.000 Sure.
02:10:13.000 Just like so many other things.
02:10:14.000 I see people saying there's no evidence.
02:10:16.000 This is just...
02:10:17.000 They're all hysteria.
02:10:18.000 But is that...
02:10:20.000 The people that work for Bayer?
02:10:22.000 Is that like their PR firm that's putting this out there to try to alleviate people's concerns and stop some lawsuits in their tracks?
02:10:29.000 Are they trying to influence public opinion on this?
02:10:31.000 Or is there real science that shows that this stuff is very bad for you?
02:10:34.000 But there's definitely a bunch of people online that are telling you that it's horrible for you.
02:10:39.000 Here, exposure to glyphosate-based herbicides and a risk for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a meta-analysis and supporting evidence.
02:10:47.000 I don't want to switch off my pea protein.
02:10:49.000 That ain't good, bro.
02:10:50.000 Just switch to hemp.
02:10:51.000 Hemp protein?
02:10:52.000 But that should get tested, too.
02:10:53.000 What am I saying?
02:10:54.000 Just start eating steak.
02:10:55.000 I can't.
02:10:56.000 It's hard for me to eat that much.
02:10:58.000 What's the problem, bro?
02:10:59.000 What's the problem?
02:11:00.000 Do you know who David Frank is?
02:11:02.000 That was the most show-broken thing that's ever happened.
02:11:34.000 Do you know who David Frank is?
02:11:35.000 That's going...
02:11:36.000 Not Twitter feed.
02:11:37.000 Text message.
02:11:39.000 Group text.
02:11:41.000 Here it is.
02:11:42.000 Robert Frank.
02:11:43.000 Hold on a second.
02:11:45.000 Abortion? 0.89
02:11:47.000 Yeah.
02:11:48.000 Here, I'm going to send this to you.
02:11:49.000 Hang on a second.
02:11:51.000 Do you know what it is, Jamie?
02:11:53.000 Robert Frank 615. It's private.
02:11:56.000 It is?
02:11:57.000 Oh, no.
02:11:58.000 Oh, so he's got to sign up?
02:11:59.000 He's got a million followers, but I don't follow him.
02:12:02.000 Oh, it's one of them deals. 1.00
02:12:03.000 Because he says a lot of crazy shit. 0.99
02:12:06.000 Alright, so how long does it take? 1.00
02:12:10.000 Okay.
02:12:12.000 Hold on a second.
02:12:13.000 I'm going to text it to you right now.
02:12:15.000 How long does it usually take for those people?
02:12:17.000 They have to be either one of those dorks that's sitting in front of their computer or someone's doing it for you.
02:12:21.000 Yeah, he must have allowed me in. 0.92
02:12:25.000 Alright, I'm sending it to you right now.
02:12:27.000 Bam.
02:12:29.000 Okay.
02:12:30.000 It went through.
02:12:31.000 Did you go through it?
02:12:35.000 Anyway, it's hilarious.
02:12:37.000 We'll take it out in post.
02:12:39.000 It's hilarious.
02:12:40.000 There's no taking anything out in post.
02:12:41.000 We're lazy.
02:12:44.000 No need to try to make it smoother.
02:12:48.000 It's hard to put the calories down, though, is my point.
02:12:50.000 No, it's not.
02:12:51.000 Open your mouth.
02:12:52.000 Chew.
02:12:52.000 Swallow.
02:12:53.000 What are you, baby?
02:12:54.000 Your grandfather would have died for a steak like this.
02:12:56.000 Jesus Christ.
02:12:57.000 Listen to yourself. 1.00
02:12:58.000 You're saying all the shit that you would get mad at people if they were saying about any other subject. 0.99
02:13:02.000 It's hard. 0.99
02:13:03.000 It's hard.
02:13:03.000 It's hard to eat all that food.
02:13:04.000 It's hard.
02:13:05.000 It's hard to get by in this world.
02:13:06.000 It's hard.
02:13:06.000 It's hard.
02:13:07.000 It's hard to get up every morning.
02:13:08.000 It's hard.
02:13:09.000 I work hard.
02:13:10.000 I work hard. 0.99
02:13:11.000 How fucking hard is it to eat steak? 0.99
02:13:13.000 Look at me, bro. 1.00
02:13:14.000 Just eat it.
02:13:15.000 Cook it.
02:13:15.000 Eat it.
02:13:16.000 Put some salt on it.
02:13:17.000 Delicious.
02:13:18.000 Maybe you like some steak sauce.
02:13:19.000 Do whatever you gotta do to get that steak down your stomach, sir.
02:13:23.000 Get some grass-fed.
02:13:24.000 Grass-fed.
02:13:25.000 Grass-fed, grass-raised.
02:13:27.000 It's got a darker, richer taste.
02:13:29.000 It seems like a lot of work.
02:13:30.000 Grass-fed?
02:13:31.000 No, just cooking steaks all the time.
02:13:32.000 It's not that hard.
02:13:34.000 You learn how to do it.
02:13:35.000 It's easy.
02:13:35.000 Is it?
02:13:36.000 Get yourself a nice grill.
02:13:37.000 All right.
02:13:38.000 I'm in Brooklyn now.
02:13:39.000 You're in Brooklyn.
02:13:39.000 You got a yard?
02:13:40.000 No.
02:13:41.000 No.
02:13:41.000 Oh!
02:13:42.000 I'm in Brooklyn.
02:13:42.000 Come on.
02:13:43.000 Okay.
02:13:43.000 You got a cast iron skillet?
02:13:44.000 I can get one.
02:13:45.000 That's all you need.
02:13:46.000 It's not going to stink up my house?
02:13:47.000 Yeah, it'll stink up your house. 0.78
02:13:48.000 Okay.
02:13:48.000 Your house is going to smell like a steak.
02:13:50.000 Yeah.
02:13:50.000 Like a man's house.
02:13:50.000 Okay.
02:13:51.000 Smell good.
02:13:52.000 People will be like, Jesus, that Michael's living good.
02:13:56.000 He's got the steak life.
02:13:57.000 He'll be knocking on your doors.
02:13:58.000 Is that butcher box, bro?
02:13:59.000 Is that grass-fed?
02:14:00.000 Just cut it for me.
02:14:01.000 Let me see what you got.
02:14:02.000 You got medium rare?
02:14:03.000 Oh, yeah.
02:14:04.000 Kosher salt?
02:14:05.000 Yeah.
02:14:06.000 Well, I gotta be kosher, Joe.
02:14:09.000 It's thicker.
02:14:10.000 That's what I use.
02:14:10.000 I like the pyramid salt.
02:14:12.000 What's that?
02:14:13.000 It's shaped like a pyramid of crystals.
02:14:14.000 Really?
02:14:15.000 Yeah.
02:14:15.000 They do it a certain way.
02:14:17.000 No.
02:14:17.000 It's crunchier.
02:14:18.000 If you're going to cook a steak like a man correctly, you need kosher salt. 1.00
02:14:21.000 Okay.
02:14:22.000 How much grams of protein are in a steak? 0.94
02:14:24.000 A lot.
02:14:25.000 That's all you need to know. 1.00
02:14:26.000 Just shove it down your fucking mouth. 1.00
02:14:31.000 I follow my macros every day. 1.00
02:14:33.000 Oh, are you really getting serious about that?
02:14:35.000 I've always been, because I have an eating disorder, so this is a way to put that in a good direction.
02:14:39.000 Yeah, you'd have to look.
02:14:41.000 I mean, it's certainly more for wild game, which is mostly what I eat, than it is for...
02:14:47.000 Sure.
02:14:50.000 Sure.
02:15:12.000 mTOR and essential fatty acids that exist in grass-fed meat.
02:15:17.000 It's all good stuff.
02:15:18.000 Okay.
02:15:19.000 Let's get some steak.
02:15:20.000 Let's stop with the pea protein, bro.
02:15:21.000 Okay.
02:15:21.000 Sorry, prots.
02:15:22.000 I'm not eating your pea protein. 0.99
02:15:23.000 They might be fucking you up, man. 0.99
02:15:24.000 I wonder. 0.99
02:15:25.000 I wonder how many people are getting...
02:15:26.000 What are the dangers of consuming glyphosate other than non-Hodgkin's lymphoma?
02:15:31.000 Maybe this is what you're seeing over and over in people.
02:15:34.000 It better not kill my gains.
02:15:35.000 There was...
02:15:35.000 My gains!
02:15:37.000 I don't think pea protein is helping your gains.
02:15:39.000 There's something about knowing that you're getting all your protein from peas.
02:15:42.000 Not all of it.
02:15:43.000 Some of it.
02:15:44.000 60 grams a day.
02:15:47.000 What do you got, James?
02:15:48.000 An endocrine disruptor. 1.00
02:15:49.000 Oh, that shit's no joke. 1.00
02:15:52.000 That's what glyphosate has? 1.00
02:15:53.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00
02:15:54.000 Liver disease, birth defects, reproductive problems in animals. 1.00
02:15:58.000 Oh, Christ.
02:15:59.000 Where is this from?
02:16:00.000 I just typed in dangers of glyphosate from the USRTK. I don't know what that is.
02:16:06.000 Pull up whatever USRTK is. 0.97
02:16:08.000 Fine, it might be horseshit.
02:16:11.000 It's a.org. 0.94
02:16:13.000 US Right to Know.
02:16:15.000 Right to Know.
02:16:16.000 That sounds sketchy.
02:16:17.000 That still doesn't mean anything.
02:16:18.000 What is that based on?
02:16:20.000 This does not look legitimate.
02:16:22.000 Look at that top news on the right.
02:16:24.000 Trial for Monsanto, hometown.
02:16:26.000 It's all Monsanto.
02:16:28.000 Everything's Monsanto.
02:16:29.000 This is not legitimate.
02:16:30.000 This is just news stories from today.
02:16:31.000 They're all over the news.
02:16:32.000 Right, but you've got to be careful.
02:16:34.000 This is not real.
02:16:35.000 This story, though, look at all the top news.
02:16:37.000 It's all Monsanto.
02:16:37.000 Click on their contact.
02:16:38.000 I bet you it's just some...
02:16:40.000 It should have a...
02:16:41.000 Some dude.
02:16:42.000 GMOs.
02:16:42.000 GMOs.
02:16:44.000 What is it?
02:16:45.000 Our litigation.
02:16:46.000 Oh, they're litigating.
02:16:47.000 This is from the lawyers.
02:16:48.000 Could be.
02:16:49.000 This is from the lawyers.
02:16:50.000 Pushing for truth and transparency.
02:16:51.000 Yeah, this is the lawyers.
02:16:52.000 Yeah, the food system.
02:16:53.000 This is, listen, if there are two billion dollar rulings, you can bet your sweet ass that there's people that are swarming on this subject.
02:17:02.000 What would be a better source of information?
02:17:04.000 I don't know, man.
02:17:05.000 That's a good question.
02:17:06.000 What do we got here?
02:17:06.000 Alex.
02:17:07.000 Let's call Alex.
02:17:08.000 Alex Jones.
02:17:08.000 He'll know.
02:17:09.000 I don't know if he's up on food stuff.
02:17:12.000 He knew about the plastic wrap that raises your estrogen. 0.94
02:17:16.000 Oh, the ones that make the frogs gay? 0.98
02:17:17.000 The juice box that makes people gay. 1.00
02:17:19.000 Scientific American? 0.99
02:17:20.000 Yeah.
02:17:20.000 Okay, that sounds good.
02:17:21.000 That's good.
02:17:22.000 2009?
02:17:23.000 Weed whacking herbicide proves deadly to human cells.
02:17:26.000 Used in gardens, farms, and parks around the world, the weed killer Roundup contains an ingredient that can suffocate human cells in a laboratory.
02:17:34.000 Researchers say, yeah.
02:17:35.000 So we'll kill my gains if it's suffocating my cells. 1.00
02:17:37.000 Fuck that. 1.00
02:17:38.000 Whatever that is, whatever has that on it, fuck that stuff. 1.00
02:17:42.000 Okay, I'm going to go to a more way then. 1.00
02:17:44.000 Just carnivore diet.
02:17:44.000 That's your move.
02:17:45.000 Okay.
02:17:46.000 Like Jordan Peterson.
02:17:48.000 Jordan's on carnivore?
02:17:48.000 Yes.
02:17:49.000 Okay.
02:17:49.000 Over a year.
02:17:50.000 Huh.
02:17:51.000 It's helped him tremendously.
02:17:52.000 How so?
02:17:53.000 Well, first of all, intellectually, he says it's really alleviated a lot of his autoimmune issues that he thinks were slowing him down and wearing him out and making him tired, and he has more energy.
02:18:03.000 Okay.
02:18:04.000 He says he's at his peak intellectually, and he credits a lot of that through this diet.
02:18:08.000 He's lost 50 pounds.
02:18:10.000 All he eats is meat.
02:18:11.000 When I'm saying all he eats is meat, I mean that's it.
02:18:14.000 What about fiber and stuff?
02:18:15.000 There's none.
02:18:16.000 He doesn't have any of that.
02:18:17.000 He drinks water, and he eats meat.
02:18:19.000 And for the people, oh, I heard this, I heard that.
02:18:22.000 Okay, you know what else I heard?
02:18:23.000 I heard that the food pyramid was all green at the bottom, and that's not the case anymore. 1.00
02:18:28.000 There's a lot of shit. 0.99
02:18:29.000 And I'm not saying this is for everybody, because it's not for everybody. 0.99
02:18:32.000 It's not even good for everybody.
02:18:34.000 There's a lot of people, if they ate meat every day, all day, it'd probably be terrible for them.
02:18:37.000 But for some people...
02:18:39.000 It seems that particularly people with autoimmune disorders, they achieve, at least anecdotally, some really positive results.
02:18:47.000 Jordan Peterson has gone as far as to take, I think he took three blood tests when he had one year in for insurance purposes and much of the things.
02:18:57.000 Because, you know, obviously you're going to insure a guy who's 55 years old just eats steak all the time.
02:19:03.000 Like, oh my god, this guy's going to die.
02:19:05.000 No, everything's fine.
02:19:06.000 Everything's healthy.
02:19:08.000 No coronary artery disease, no plaque, no...
02:19:11.000 Cholesterol levels are all fine.
02:19:12.000 Everything's fine.
02:19:13.000 This sounds like it would be exorbitant though.
02:19:15.000 Financially?
02:19:16.000 Yeah.
02:19:17.000 Maybe.
02:19:18.000 Not the cheapest way to eat in the world.
02:19:20.000 I mean, you can get Costco steaks.
02:19:21.000 You can get...
02:19:23.000 Some supermarkets have cheaper cuts.
02:19:25.000 It really depends on what...
02:19:27.000 You know, you could also eat just ground beef.
02:19:28.000 That's not as bad.
02:19:29.000 You don't eat as much.
02:19:31.000 And that's one of the reasons why when you're on what they call an elimination diet...
02:19:36.000 One of the cool things, you eliminate basically everything that might be fucking with you except the one thing that you can consume easily, and this is one of the things they're calling the carnivore diet, an elimination diet.
02:19:48.000 When you do, you wind up eating less food, which is one of the reasons why these people just eat steak and wind up losing weight.
02:19:55.000 They don't take in any carbs at all.
02:19:58.000 So it's basically also kind of Atkins, if they're not taking in carbs.
02:20:11.000 And that Atkins diet works.
02:20:13.000 Oh yeah, it does.
02:20:13.000 I did it.
02:20:14.000 If you stick to it, it does work.
02:20:15.000 It will lose weight.
02:20:16.000 And when your pee starts to smell, it's great.
02:20:18.000 That's when you know the party started.
02:20:20.000 Yeah.
02:20:20.000 You're in ketogenesis.
02:20:21.000 It's great.
02:20:22.000 Or ketosis.
02:20:23.000 Ketosis.
02:20:24.000 And when you're in ketosis, man, you really do have energy throughout the day because your body's not craving carbohydrates, so you don't have this up and down blood sugar crash.
02:20:33.000 The thing about the carnivore diet is it's not even ketogenic, really.
02:20:37.000 I mean, you're in ketosis sometimes, but you're not eating that much fat.
02:20:40.000 You're just eating a lot of meat and a lot of it with fat, some of it without fat.
02:20:44.000 I thought ketosis is when you have no carbs.
02:20:47.000 It's not a function of fat.
02:20:48.000 No.
02:20:48.000 Here's why.
02:20:49.000 Okay.
02:20:49.000 Because when your body eats a lot of steak and you don't have any carbohydrates, your body does something called glucogenesis, where it'll convert steak into glucose.
02:20:59.000 So it'll actually convert protein into glucose.
02:21:02.000 Okay.
02:21:02.000 And it'll actually knock you out of ketosis if you take in too much protein and not enough fat.
02:21:08.000 Okay.
02:21:08.000 Oh, it's got a proportion.
02:21:09.000 Ketosis is, I think, somewhere in the 80% range.
02:21:14.000 You should be consuming...
02:21:16.000 80% of your calories are from fats.
02:21:18.000 You'd be kind of amazed and actually can fuck with some people's gains if they don't think they're getting enough protein because they're getting a lot of fat and a smaller amount of protein, like less grams of protein.
02:21:28.000 It might not be ideal in terms of physical performance for athletes, they think. 0.99
02:21:33.000 But when you do do that and you just eat steak, your body says, alright, this asshole doesn't want to eat apples. 0.98
02:21:40.000 You know, we have to figure out how to get our carbs. 1.00
02:21:42.000 Yeah.
02:21:42.000 And we have to figure out how to get our sugar.
02:21:44.000 So we're just going to get it through the steak.
02:21:45.000 Huh.
02:21:46.000 Okay.
02:21:46.000 Yeah.
02:21:46.000 It's a weird thing.
02:21:48.000 Some people are unaware of that, but your body literally produces, it turns protein into like a glucose substitute.
02:21:56.000 Okay.
02:21:57.000 Or glucose.
02:21:57.000 Actual glucose.
02:21:58.000 It's glucogenesis.
02:21:59.000 Hmm.
02:22:00.000 Yeah, you can do it.
02:22:01.000 I've done it for several days.
02:22:02.000 I've never done it for long periods of time, but I wanted to try it when they were doing National Carnivore Month.
02:22:10.000 People are so into it.
02:22:11.000 Carnivore diet is a lot like the vegan diet. 0.99
02:22:13.000 They can't shut the fuck up about being a carnivore.
02:22:15.000 My buddy Michael Goldstein, who's the first person I know who's about Bitcoin, that Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. 0.99
02:22:21.000 Same thing with carnivore.
02:22:23.000 Carnivore, carnivore, carnivore.
02:22:24.000 It's like, alright.
02:22:24.000 So I tried it for a couple of weeks.
02:22:26.000 I think I went from close to two weeks.
02:22:30.000 And after a while, I was like, Jesus Christ, I just want to eat regular foods.
02:22:33.000 I'm not joking.
02:22:35.000 I would think you'll be a problem with getting it stuck in your teeth all the time.
02:22:38.000 No, you just brush your teeth. 1.00
02:22:40.000 What are you, disgusting? 1.00
02:22:40.000 What's wrong with you? 1.00
02:22:41.000 Do you have a toothpick at home?
02:22:42.000 Excuse me, I have every flavor of Marvis on my shelf right now.
02:22:47.000 What is Marvis?
02:22:47.000 Oh, interesting.
02:22:48.000 Now who doesn't know about tooth care? 0.96
02:22:50.000 What's Marvis?
02:22:50.000 Marvis is the Italian toothpaste brand.
02:22:52.000 It looks really cool, although the flavors are so far.
02:22:55.000 The point is, brushing your teeth is not going to get stuck in between your teeth.
02:22:59.000 That's not going to help.
02:23:00.000 Flossing.
02:23:01.000 Yeah, you're going to be after flossing all the time.
02:23:04.000 Or just bite off bigger chunks like a man.
02:23:06.000 Just swallow it.
02:23:09.000 Can I tell you a story about this?
02:23:11.000 This just happened to me.
02:23:12.000 And this is when I realized that most people, there's no mind there.
02:23:16.000 I am at a buffet.
02:23:17.000 I'm eating steak.
02:23:19.000 I was eating steak.
02:23:20.000 Congratulations.
02:23:21.000 It gets stuck in my throat.
02:23:23.000 I'm like, alright, it's just too big a piece.
02:23:25.000 I'll just wash it down.
02:23:28.000 It's not going anywhere.
02:23:29.000 And I realize I'm choking.
02:23:31.000 And it was a very scary situation in the sense that mentally I knew there is a percent chance that I'm going to die.
02:23:38.000 Did you try to throw up?
02:23:39.000 Hold on, hold on.
02:23:40.000 Let me tell the story, Joe Rogan. 0.99
02:23:43.000 So I'm sitting there, I'm like, holy shit, I'm choking. 0.96
02:23:45.000 And I'm like, alright. 0.95
02:23:46.000 I was calm, but I'm like, your life is currently in danger.
02:23:50.000 And there's three people at the next table, two women in their 50s, a guy in their 60s.
02:23:56.000 I go up to them, and I'm like, I know what to do, because I was at school.
02:23:59.000 And I go to them, and I go, I'm choking.
02:24:02.000 And I did the hand motion.
02:24:03.000 And I make eye contact with each of them.
02:24:06.000 No affect on their face. 0.73
02:24:09.000 And I'm like, at the very least, you have a crazy person coming up to your table doing a neck motion.
02:24:14.000 Were you in New York?
02:24:14.000 Yeah.
02:24:15.000 That's the problem.
02:24:17.000 People are desensitized.
02:24:18.000 I did this to myself and it shot out.
02:24:21.000 How'd you do it to yourself?
02:24:22.000 Show me how.
02:24:22.000 I just did this.
02:24:23.000 And I coughed.
02:24:25.000 I don't know if it was the cough or whatever.
02:24:27.000 It popped out and all the liquid too after it.
02:24:29.000 And I go to them, I go, I was just choking.
02:24:31.000 And they're like, oh, well you should chew your food better.
02:24:35.000 I'm like, someone was just choking. 1.00
02:24:36.000 Who the fuck said that to you? 1.00
02:24:38.000 One of the ladies. 1.00
02:24:38.000 You should get that lady's name. 1.00
02:24:40.000 She doesn't have a name because there's not a human being there.
02:24:43.000 There's no mind. 0.99
02:24:45.000 And I'm like, holy shit, if I saw this happen and I didn't help, I would be like, oh my god, holy shit, are you okay? 0.99
02:24:52.000 It was like, oh, you should chew your food. 1.00
02:24:53.000 You're not a soul.
02:24:55.000 How old was this lady? 1.00
02:24:56.000 In her 50s.
02:24:57.000 Somebody probably just treated her bad, man.
02:25:00.000 Not bad enough.
02:25:01.000 Bad relationships.
02:25:02.000 It was scary.
02:25:04.000 The reaction was scarier than the choking.
02:25:06.000 Yeah, I would imagine.
02:25:08.000 Well, I think that's a really common thing with big cities, that sort of...
02:25:13.000 There's a diffusion of responsibility when there's so many people.
02:25:16.000 There's so many.
02:25:17.000 You don't feel responsible for this guy with his hands on his neck saying, I'm coughing.
02:25:20.000 Like, somebody else, go take...
02:25:21.000 Somebody handle this.
02:25:22.000 I gotta go to work.
02:25:23.000 I would be fine if they had shrugged and been like, yeah, whatever.
02:25:26.000 In a sense.
02:25:27.000 But there was no reaction.
02:25:29.000 She's probably so jaded.
02:25:32.000 So whoever you are, lady, I hope that things happen to you. 1.00
02:25:34.000 Fuck you. 1.00
02:25:34.000 I hope you go back in time and you have a better daddy and a better mommy and better friends. 1.00
02:25:40.000 Yeah.
02:25:40.000 And you grow up to be a nice person.
02:25:42.000 Yeah.
02:25:43.000 In her 50s, maybe she could be a yoga teacher. 1.00
02:25:45.000 She could have saved someone's life in her mind and be like, I saved someone's life today.
02:25:48.000 I'm going to heaven. 0.97
02:25:50.000 Yeah, maybe she thought you were nuts, and you were just trolling her. 1.00
02:25:52.000 But if I was nuts, you would think they'd pull back and be like, holy shit, there's a crazy person at our table. 1.00
02:25:57.000 Maybe it's because of your troll-like way. 1.00
02:25:59.000 This is a lesson. 0.96
02:26:00.000 The universe has sent your way.
02:26:02.000 You're the boy who cried wolf.
02:26:04.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:26:04.000 The lesson is, you're invincible, and nothing bad will ever happen to you.
02:26:09.000 Ever?
02:26:09.000 Oh, because you survived it.
02:26:10.000 I survived it.
02:26:11.000 Oh.
02:26:12.000 Do you know how to do that to someone else, though?
02:26:13.000 If someone was choking, do you know how to give a Heimlich?
02:26:16.000 I think I do.
02:26:16.000 We all think we do, right?
02:26:18.000 That's the thing.
02:26:18.000 But it's like you have to get it right here, like right where the ribcage, the sternum, and you push up.
02:26:23.000 I think people get their ribs broken all the time.
02:26:25.000 Yeah, they're supposed to.
02:26:26.000 You're supposed to do it as hard as you can.
02:26:28.000 Oh, you don't want that.
02:26:29.000 Well, the alternative...
02:26:30.000 Imagine Matthews doing that to you as hard as you can.
02:26:32.000 That would be very painful. 0.99
02:26:37.000 You're just like an old chicken.
02:26:38.000 Yeah, no pea protein there. 0.96
02:26:40.000 Can you get in trouble for helping and hurting someone?
02:26:42.000 Of course you can, 100%.
02:26:43.000 Of course.
02:26:44.000 You could get in trouble for shooting a burglar.
02:26:47.000 Especially if you're a strong person.
02:26:48.000 Like if you're like that Robert Frank guy, did he approve you yet?
02:26:52.000 No, no.
02:26:52.000 No?
02:26:53.000 Check.
02:26:54.000 I was looking on his Twitter account.
02:26:55.000 I couldn't tell what the video was.
02:26:56.000 He might have it on Twitter.
02:26:57.000 Yeah, maybe.
02:26:58.000 Yeah, I bet he does, right?
02:27:00.000 But isn't he like...
02:27:03.000 I don't know what the topic was because he had a couple videos up, but it could have been...
02:27:06.000 This is what it looks like.
02:27:07.000 I'll show it to you.
02:27:09.000 For some reason, now Instagram wants to send me...
02:27:12.000 Twitter wants to send me to the Instagram from the web and not from...
02:27:20.000 This is what happens when you're an Apple.
02:27:21.000 Why do they do that?
02:27:22.000 Should have been on an Android.
02:27:24.000 Why does it do that?
02:27:25.000 Does Android work better for that?
02:27:27.000 For the purpose of the joke, yes.
02:27:30.000 But doesn't...
02:27:31.000 The thing about Google, though, is that I have Android, too.
02:27:34.000 I have an Android phone as well.
02:27:36.000 But doesn't Google collect way more data than Apple does?
02:27:40.000 I think they, yeah, it's my understanding.
02:27:42.000 There's this gathering data and selling it.
02:27:44.000 Apple's kind of trying to avoid that.
02:27:46.000 I want to support that.
02:27:47.000 Apple did a great, great thing where they had that set up where they can't even break into their phone if they wanted to.
02:27:54.000 Defying law enforcement.
02:27:55.000 That was really wonderful.
02:27:56.000 Not just that, but your information.
02:27:58.000 Right.
02:27:58.000 In terms of your location information and where you're going and what you're doing.
02:28:02.000 Google, every time you're getting online, they're just trying to do like, where are you at?
02:28:05.000 What do you want?
02:28:06.000 What do you need?
02:28:06.000 Right.
02:28:06.000 There's a great documentary called The Creepy Line.
02:28:10.000 And they talk about, like, let's suppose I'm Facebook and I want to influence elections, right?
02:28:15.000 What if, if I have an ad that says, get out and vote, it's going to encourage people to vote.
02:28:20.000 What if I just ran that ad on Donald Trump fans, people who like Donald Trump?
02:28:24.000 Don't run it on Hillary fans. 1.00
02:28:27.000 That would sway the election and no one would know.
02:28:30.000 So what they do with this information is very quiet and there's not that much transparency and it can really lead to... 0.98
02:28:37.000 Especially with the shit with foreign countries, how with China, how they're being perfectly happy to censor stuff. 0.97
02:28:43.000 These are things that need to be asked. 0.99
02:28:46.000 Yeah, I was talking to a woman who was an executive and her position was that if they didn't do it, Google's going to copy it anyway. 0.99
02:28:51.000 So might as well just let Google...
02:28:56.000 And this way Google won't invent their own Google.
02:28:59.000 Sure.
02:28:59.000 And just copy all the code and steal the code of Google.
02:29:02.000 And that's a fair response.
02:29:03.000 But these are things that people, I think, should think more about.
02:29:06.000 Yeah.
02:29:07.000 Well, especially with something like China where the government and the industry are all tied in.
02:29:12.000 Right.
02:29:13.000 This is why I was really weirded out by this Huawei thing today when it came to Google.
02:29:19.000 Because you want to say, well, if Google's doing this, clearly there must be a real reason for it.
02:29:26.000 But then you know about the Google Memo and James Damore.
02:29:28.000 Oh, yeah.
02:29:31.000 Because when you've done that, I've got to go, okay.
02:29:34.000 The guy just provided scientific information, didn't say anything sexist.
02:29:37.000 He was just talking about the facts of studies.
02:29:39.000 Right.
02:29:40.000 And you fired him for what you called...
02:29:43.000 Was it reinforcing sexist stereotypes?
02:29:46.000 And it wasn't the case at all.
02:29:48.000 That's not what he did.
02:29:48.000 But so many people were complaining about his report on the data that they were asking about.
02:29:55.000 Well, also saying that he doesn't know math and statistics when that was his...
02:29:59.000 Does he have an MIT degree?
02:30:01.000 Yeah.
02:30:01.000 Well, he's a coder.
02:30:03.000 Yeah, so it's – what happens is when you have this fundamentalist faith, you start with the conclusion and you reason your way backward. 0.99
02:30:11.000 And if you're contradicting my conclusion, you're not only wrong, you're a liar and a sinner and have to be driven from the face of the earth. 0.69
02:30:17.000 Well, that's why I would ordinarily defer to them. 0.97
02:30:21.000 I'm like, wow, this must be pretty serious if Google is looking to take Gmail off of the new Huawei phones and not update the operating system.
02:30:29.000 But then I go, well, no, that's not necessarily – What's going on at all?
02:30:33.000 Yeah.
02:30:34.000 I don't know.
02:30:34.000 We don't know what's going on.
02:30:35.000 And we might never know.
02:30:36.000 That is a problem when you do one thing like that.
02:30:40.000 Like, there's giant consequences for what they probably thought was a PR disaster.
02:30:44.000 Probably have to get rid of this James Damore guy.
02:30:46.000 Let's just do it.
02:30:47.000 We'll justify it.
02:30:48.000 And I think the culture of the company probably supported it.
02:30:50.000 It's probably very leftist and aggressive.
02:30:51.000 It demanded it.
02:30:52.000 It didn't support it.
02:30:52.000 It demanded it, was my understanding.
02:30:54.000 The company.
02:30:54.000 Yeah.
02:30:55.000 Even though it does, logically, and the rest, that was really interesting, too, to see outside of the bubble, where the rest of the world, the people who actually read his memo and looked at it were like, okay, what is wrong with what he's saying?
02:31:08.000 He's not saying anything bad about women.
02:31:11.000 Right.
02:31:11.000 In fact, he had a page and a half talking about strategies to get women more interested in tech.
02:31:17.000 He was just relaying the information as it stands in terms of the studies that have been done that show what women tend to gravitate towards, what men tend to gravitate towards.
02:31:26.000 These aren't sexist studies.
02:31:27.000 These are studies where they're just trying to figure out why do more women go into healthcare? 1.00
02:31:33.000 Is it opportunity?
02:31:35.000 Is it desire?
02:31:35.000 Is it just natural?
02:31:38.000 Cultural? 0.88
02:31:39.000 Is it cultural?
02:31:40.000 There's a lot of things.
02:31:42.000 And so, data is not sexist.
02:31:45.000 This guy was just talking about data.
02:31:46.000 And then when you looked at his own ideas, Those weren't sexist either.
02:31:50.000 He was just talking about strategies.
02:31:52.000 This is where I disagree with you.
02:31:54.000 They will say data is sexist because it has conclusions that contradict what they, air quotes, know to be true.
02:32:00.000 So therefore, if the data contradicts this, the data is sexist.
02:32:04.000 That's so crazy that that's the left.
02:32:06.000 The left used to be science-driven and they were the logical ones.
02:32:10.000 The left has, this is one of the big myths, and I talk about this in the book.
02:32:14.000 They have, from Woodrow Wilson on, have this evangelical fundamentalist faith, a segment of the left.
02:32:20.000 There's many people on the left who are very science-driven, who are like, look, these are the facts, let's work it out.
02:32:24.000 But there's a big segment of them, which are very prevalent, where they're basically like jihadis.
02:32:30.000 And you have this on the right as well, where it's just like, these are my conclusions, and we're going to force everyone to fit said conclusions. 0.90
02:32:37.000 So, you think that even, like, when you go back to, what was that fucking, there was the terrorist organization that Obama's professor was involved in. 0.95
02:32:47.000 Oh, the Weathermen. 0.99
02:32:47.000 The Weathermen. 0.99
02:32:48.000 Yeah.
02:32:48.000 Like that, you go back to that, similar, almost like an educated version of Antifa.
02:32:54.000 I'm going back to Woodrow Wilson.
02:32:55.000 Yeah, but I mean, if you went back to that, it's real similar to what we're experiencing today.
02:32:58.000 Oh, absolutely.
02:32:58.000 Yeah.
02:32:59.000 Yeah.
02:33:00.000 And there's a book called Days of Rage.
02:33:03.000 And it talks about how in the early 70s, there were bombs going off, I think, every week in America.
02:33:08.000 And they weren't trying to kill people.
02:33:10.000 It was political.
02:33:10.000 They'd call in the bomb threat and be like, look, we're going to set up a bomb.
02:33:13.000 But the point is, there were other Symbionese Liberation Army that had Patty Hearst.
02:33:18.000 A few of them.
02:33:19.000 The Weather Underground.
02:33:20.000 They really, this was their thing.
02:33:22.000 And they blew up a townhouse in New York City.
02:33:25.000 You know, killed a bunch of people.
02:33:26.000 And now they're walking around and they're fine.
02:33:30.000 It's all been swept under the rug.
02:33:31.000 People always think that no matter what's happening now, with regard to these neo-Nazi types and the alt-right, oh, this is the worst time ever.
02:33:40.000 The Klan used to be a major part of both political parties.
02:33:44.000 What are you talking about?
02:33:47.000 Woodrow Wilson is playing Birth of a Nation at the White House.
02:33:50.000 Things were really, really dark before, but people don't have the historical context.
02:33:56.000 No, it's easy to not know what happened before, but just to think about what's going on now and where you want things to go.
02:34:03.000 Yeah, so therefore it's really, really bad, and therefore it must be the worst.
02:34:06.000 Right, yeah.
02:34:08.000 There's a better way to live, for sure.
02:34:12.000 But I think we went into real problems when you start telling people… What they can and can't do.
02:34:19.000 Yeah.
02:34:19.000 No matter what it is.
02:34:20.000 No matter what it is, and you tell people what they can and can't do, you sort of reinforce...
02:34:24.000 I think one of the things that's going on now, in terms of these abortion rulings...
02:34:29.000 Oh gosh, yeah.
02:34:30.000 Yeah.
02:34:31.000 Which are very sketchy.
02:34:33.000 Yes.
02:34:33.000 Very scary.
02:34:34.000 And the Alabama one, which essentially just outlaws abortion.
02:34:37.000 Right.
02:34:37.000 They're making it where your punishment for abortion is...
02:34:44.000 Far greater punishment than the punishment for raping someone and causing them to get an abortion.
02:34:50.000 Well, they don't punish the woman. 1.00
02:34:51.000 I think they punish the doctor.
02:34:52.000 The law punishes the doctor.
02:34:54.000 Is that what it is?
02:34:55.000 Yeah.
02:34:55.000 The doctor gets 99 years or something like that.
02:34:58.000 That's right.
02:34:58.000 It's the doctor who's being charged, not the woman.
02:35:00.000 That's the difference between Georgia and Alabama. 0.97
02:35:03.000 Maybe you're right.
02:35:04.000 But the question is, why do you want this – if you regard this mother as a potential murderer, do you really want her raising that kid?
02:35:11.000 Right.
02:35:12.000 Four or two.
02:35:13.000 Yeah.
02:35:14.000 99 years in jail.
02:35:17.000 Yeah.
02:35:18.000 The other thing is that I am very torn on this issue, abortion.
02:35:23.000 On Twitter, it's such a cesspool of people who don't understand each other.
02:35:27.000 One group saying, oh, it's all about you want to control a woman's body. 0.99
02:35:31.000 And the other being like, oh, you want to murder babies. 0.99
02:35:34.000 No, no. 0.88
02:35:34.000 They don't want to murder babies. 0.88
02:35:36.000 And they don't care about the woman.
02:35:37.000 They care about what they perceive to be the infant.
02:35:39.000 So I try to talk to both, and it's just noise.
02:35:43.000 Yeah, these are rigid ideologies.
02:35:45.000 And they're not persuasive.
02:35:47.000 If you tell someone who is pro-choice, who would otherwise be amenable to your point of view, well, you just want to murder kids, it's like, well, I don't, so there's nothing to talk anymore.
02:35:56.000 Did you see that state representative that was walking around in front of an abortion clinic and was trying to get the names of these kids that were there?
02:36:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
02:36:07.000 He's still on Twitter.
02:36:08.000 No consequences.
02:36:10.000 That's crazy.
02:36:11.000 He was trying to dox kids.
02:36:12.000 He was asking for it.
02:36:13.000 He was offering money, bribing them, $100, $100 to get the names of whoever these people are.
02:36:19.000 It's insane.
02:36:20.000 And then he gets to this one boy and he puts this boy's face on Twitter.
02:36:23.000 He's like just some meek, shy, Christian man. 1.00
02:36:27.000 This is a big guy.
02:36:28.000 He's big and aggressive and he's getting in people's faces with the camera and then he's putting them online and he's getting a lot of attention and fame for it.
02:36:38.000 And it's crazy.
02:36:39.000 And meanwhile, my buddy Mike, he has a parody account of AOC. He gets kicked off.
02:36:44.000 That's crazy.
02:36:45.000 Yeah.
02:36:45.000 And it says parody.
02:36:46.000 Yeah.
02:36:47.000 Why can't you do that?
02:36:48.000 I mean, I don't think what he did was even rough.
02:36:50.000 Of course it wasn't.
02:36:51.000 It wasn't anything really awful.
02:36:53.000 I don't know.
02:36:53.000 I've read some of the tweets.
02:36:54.000 I was like, they're just kind of funny.
02:36:55.000 They're a parody.
02:36:57.000 Yeah.
02:36:57.000 What about Saturday Night Live?
02:36:58.000 I mean, come on.
02:36:59.000 Exactly.
02:36:59.000 Exactly.
02:37:00.000 What Alec Baldwin does to the president every fucking day on Saturday Night Live. 0.99
02:37:05.000 Every week, he's doing a fucking Trump impression almost. 1.00
02:37:08.000 Right. 0.99
02:37:09.000 Well, he should.
02:37:09.000 That's their job.
02:37:10.000 Exactly.
02:37:11.000 So it's a complete double standard.
02:37:13.000 And the other thing I'll defend Jack in this regard, what we were talking about earlier, I'm sure the pressure he gets internally is off the charts.
02:37:20.000 And he even said this explicitly.
02:37:22.000 He goes, my whole company was yelling at me to kick off Alex for a long time, and he refused to do it for a while.
02:37:27.000 Yeah.
02:37:28.000 It's weird that they don't see the consequences.
02:37:31.000 They don't understand that this is going to go to a bad place.
02:37:33.000 But they do see the positive consequences where they're preaching to their own tribe.
02:37:38.000 And basically, people who aren't like us get to go out in the wilderness.
02:37:45.000 Well, I think human beings are way better at expressing themselves today than they ever have been in the past.
02:37:51.000 And I think one of the reasons why is...
02:38:06.000 Oh, yeah.
02:38:19.000 If everything was stagnant like it was in 1950, we would think, if you watch 1950s films or read books about the 1950s, the behavior that people got away with was way different than it is today.
02:38:31.000 Things are getting better.
02:38:33.000 One of the reasons why these things are getting better is because people can see everything.
02:38:37.000 You can talk through all the details.
02:39:08.000 I think?
02:39:17.000 They mean Jews.
02:39:18.000 Don't they? 1.00
02:39:19.000 Shit, jig is up. 1.00
02:39:20.000 They know. 1.00
02:39:20.000 Shut it down. 1.00
02:39:21.000 But this is their proof.
02:39:23.000 They can point to Twitter and Facebook.
02:39:25.000 And they could also say, hey, they're picking off the same exact people on every platform.
02:39:30.000 Isn't that a coincidence?
02:39:31.000 Yep.
02:39:32.000 Whereas David Duke is still on Twitter.
02:39:33.000 Is he really?
02:39:34.000 Yeah, of course.
02:39:35.000 That's hilarious.
02:39:36.000 Is it?
02:39:37.000 No.
02:39:38.000 But it's telling.
02:39:38.000 No, it's not hilarious.
02:39:39.000 Like, ha ha. 0.99
02:39:40.000 I know, but it's like, what the fuck? 0.99
02:39:41.000 They got rid of Farrakhan. 0.99
02:39:42.000 They didn't get rid of David Duke.
02:39:44.000 Right.
02:39:44.000 Right.
02:39:45.000 Because David Duke serves a purpose.
02:39:46.000 What purpose?
02:39:47.000 Because he's a good foil for the left. 0.97
02:39:49.000 Because when David Duke endorses a Republican, look, oh, the Republicans are racist.
02:39:54.000 When David Duke endorses Ilhan Omar or Keith Ellison, crickets.
02:39:58.000 He'll be a good, bad guy on payroll.
02:40:02.000 Like, if I was the Democratic Party, I'd say, look, Dave, the jig is up, okay?
02:40:06.000 Everybody knows you're never going to be president, never going to really run for office anywhere legitimate, but...
02:40:11.000 He's not that good of a bad guy.
02:40:13.000 How about this, David?
02:40:15.000 We'll give you $400,000 a year.
02:40:18.000 All you have to do is every now and then I'm going to call you up and I'm going to say, Dave, You know what would be interesting? 1.00
02:40:23.000 It would be interesting if David Duke endorsed this asshole. 0.97
02:40:26.000 And then David Duke just starts talking about this person being a fine American and a white nationalist and all these different – just make up a bunch of quotes and have David Duke put it up there. 0.99
02:40:36.000 A lot of people when – You never shake that off.
02:40:39.000 A lot of people think he's – like not him specifically.
02:40:41.000 Controlled opposition.
02:40:42.000 He's controlled opposition.
02:40:43.000 Oh, that's my favorite.
02:40:44.000 When someone's not banned, they must be controlled opposition.
02:40:46.000 That is one of my favorite conspiracy dork theories.
02:40:49.000 It is.
02:40:49.000 A controlled opposition is someone who you don't like who hasn't been banned yet.
02:40:53.000 Yeah, controlled opposition. 1.00
02:40:54.000 He's a useful idiot. 1.00
02:40:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:40:56.000 Controlled opposition.
02:40:57.000 It's like when people get into these...
02:41:00.000 I've been accused of being a CIA plant.
02:41:02.000 Ah, you probably are.
02:41:04.000 It's probably one of these...
02:41:05.000 Ace for anarchy.
02:41:06.000 You know the term cognoscenti?
02:41:08.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
02:41:09.000 Those in the know?
02:41:10.000 In the know, yeah.
02:41:10.000 Yeah, that's a great term.
02:41:13.000 And that's perfect for this. 1.00
02:41:15.000 It's like, oh, useful idiot. 1.00
02:41:17.000 Oh, controlled opposition. 1.00
02:41:18.000 I'm in the know.
02:41:19.000 I'm one of the cognoscenti.
02:41:20.000 You're not going to sneak this by me.
02:41:22.000 I understand. 0.98
02:41:23.000 But meanwhile, sometimes they're right, which is why it's really fucked up. 0.96
02:41:26.000 It's like sometimes there is controlled opposition. 0.97
02:41:29.000 Sometimes there is.
02:41:30.000 Sometimes there's fake websites that talk about things because somebody wants to win a lawsuit.
02:41:36.000 Look at this.
02:41:38.000 I'm dear, dear.
02:41:39.000 This case that you're working on, come and look at this website I found. 0.93
02:41:43.000 They're killing babies. 1.00
02:41:44.000 That's why it's so important for there to be venues for those people. 0.95
02:41:47.000 If someone is crazy or brilliant, it often looks the same.
02:41:50.000 Right, but how does a person know whether or not that website's right?
02:41:54.000 Well, once we got to Scientific American, we all agreed, like, okay, this is legit.
02:41:58.000 This is a legit claim.
02:42:00.000 They were basically talking about cells, though.
02:42:02.000 They were talking about human cells.
02:42:04.000 I don't know any better way.
02:42:05.000 Destroying human cells.
02:42:06.000 But here's a problem with that, what I was going to say.
02:42:09.000 At what scale?
02:42:10.000 Because, by the way, they've shown that certain elements and plants in the laboratory environment will destroy cells.
02:42:18.000 Even like phytonutrients and there was something, one of the head guys for the carnivore diet, Sean Baker, posted on his Twitter a while back showing that you can make a lot of weird arguments based on cells,
02:42:35.000 like how things respond to cells.
02:42:36.000 It doesn't necessarily mean once it gets through the organism stage.
02:42:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:42:42.000 The only way, in my view, and I'm not an expert on this, is discourse and having a platform where people can argue at each other.
02:42:49.000 And you could stand by and watch and see things.
02:42:52.000 Otherwise, if you're silencing, it's very, as we talked before, and I think any right-minded person would agree, it's a very, very slippery slope.
02:42:59.000 I agree.
02:43:00.000 Did you see the Ben Shapiro meltdown on BBC? I did.
02:43:06.000 That's a good example.
02:43:08.000 It's a good example.
02:43:09.000 Look, he didn't handle it well.
02:43:11.000 He knows he didn't handle it well, and I like Ben.
02:43:13.000 I like him a lot.
02:43:14.000 I think he's a really nice guy.
02:43:15.000 I like talking to him.
02:43:16.000 I don't agree with him on many things, but I really like him.
02:43:19.000 He's a really good guy.
02:43:19.000 And I think he's a very smart guy.
02:43:20.000 And I think he's smart enough to admit that he fucked up. 0.99
02:43:22.000 He did. 1.00
02:43:23.000 He went on Twitter.
02:43:24.000 And here's the thing.
02:43:25.000 I did a meme making fun of him.
02:43:27.000 It's on my Insta.
02:43:28.000 And people are white knighting for him.
02:43:29.000 And I'm like, he owned that he played it wrong. 1.00
02:43:32.000 He fucked up. 0.99
02:43:33.000 And he's like, yeah, I got got. 1.00
02:43:35.000 That's to his credit.
02:43:36.000 Yeah, and...
02:43:38.000 It highlights to me, more so than anything, the problem with two things.
02:43:42.000 One, doing a remote show.
02:43:44.000 Sure.
02:43:44.000 You're in Los Angeles, they're in the UK. Sure.
02:43:47.000 He was talking to him like he wasn't there.
02:43:51.000 The British guy was.
02:43:53.000 Because he wasn't really there.
02:43:55.000 And then the other part is that short time format.
02:43:58.000 You don't have enough time.
02:43:59.000 You don't have enough time to have a conversation and just talk.
02:44:02.000 But Ben knows this.
02:44:03.000 Ben is a pro.
02:44:04.000 And he knows what the BBC is too.
02:44:06.000 But he's also a pro at doing those things.
02:44:09.000 Yes.
02:44:09.000 You just shout talking points at each other.
02:44:12.000 And Ben talks super fast.
02:44:13.000 Because when he talks super fast, it's really hard to keep up with him.
02:44:15.000 And he sounds smarter than you.
02:44:17.000 He's very smart and articulate.
02:44:19.000 And he talks fast.
02:44:20.000 Yes.
02:44:20.000 I was like, woo, it's hard to handle.
02:44:22.000 He rose to prominence when he was on Piers Morgan.
02:44:25.000 Talking about guns. 1.00
02:44:26.000 And if you thought that BBC interview was rude, Piers at one point just goes, you're a real stupid man, aren't you? 1.00
02:44:31.000 Like, that's your line? 1.00
02:44:32.000 And Ben didn't storm off.
02:44:33.000 He was just like, no, I just think when a government becomes usurpacious, that it's very important for the citizens to have, you know?
02:44:38.000 And he handled it.
02:44:39.000 That's a good impression.
02:44:40.000 We go to the same shul.
02:44:42.000 He handled it amazingly. 0.99
02:44:44.000 So for him, as he admitted, for him to lose his shit, and also to be like, I'm... 0.99
02:44:49.000 Popular and I've never heard of you. 0.98
02:44:52.000 Just because you've never heard of someone, and I'm sure he would admit this, is of no relevance to the validity of what they're doing.
02:44:58.000 Yeah, that's why I was shocked when I went to JoJo Siwa last night and it was sold out.
02:45:02.000 I don't know.
02:45:04.000 I literally didn't know who she was until a week ago.
02:45:07.000 A lot of people know her.
02:45:08.000 Probably more so than Ben Shapiro.
02:45:10.000 I'm the second most famous Joe here. 0.99
02:45:11.000 What the fuck happened? 0.99
02:45:14.000 And she's 16. If Ben Shapiro did a speech at the Microsoft Center, I don't know how many tickets he sells if he does speeches, but it's a hard sell. 1.00
02:45:22.000 7,000 people is a hard sell.
02:45:24.000 You don't think Ben Shapiro could sell 7,000 tickets?
02:45:26.000 That's a lot.
02:45:27.000 Yeah, but that's basically getting a two-hour speech in one hour, so that's already half the value.
02:45:31.000 No, but it's getting people out of their house to pay money to come hear people talk.
02:45:36.000 Most of these, when these guys are doing these talks, unless it's Jordan, Jordan can kind of do a football stadium right now.
02:45:44.000 But a lot of these guys are doing like 2,000 seaters.
02:45:47.000 Okay.
02:45:47.000 This is 7,000.
02:45:48.000 This is a big jump.
02:45:49.000 Okay, 2 to 7?
02:45:51.000 I bet you he could fill it.
02:45:52.000 Maybe.
02:45:53.000 Maybe.
02:45:53.000 It's possible.
02:45:55.000 I don't know.
02:45:55.000 I don't know if he's doing live ones like that.
02:45:57.000 There's a lot of people doing live shows now.
02:45:59.000 It's very interesting.
02:46:01.000 It's very old-timey, too.
02:46:02.000 Very old-timey.
02:46:03.000 Yeah.
02:46:04.000 But it's also, it's cool to see people that are interested in intellectual, like Sam Harris has some fantastic ones.
02:46:11.000 And I like some of Sam's live ones, too, because he's funny in them.
02:46:16.000 Yeah.
02:46:17.000 Which he gets a chance to actually work to the crowd.
02:46:20.000 Yeah.
02:46:20.000 You know, I was talking to him about it.
02:46:21.000 I'm like, you have good timing.
02:46:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:46:23.000 You're like a comic.
02:46:24.000 Yeah.
02:46:24.000 Some of the stuff you say actually makes me laugh when he does live ones as opposed to he's very rational and somber when he's doing straight conversation ones.
02:46:34.000 You know this as a performer and same with me.
02:46:35.000 If you're in front of that audience and the laugh is out of proportion because there's so many of them and you just have that one liner, it makes you want to be more on and it's beating its tail and it's really, really exciting.
02:46:45.000 It's also like a nod to the crowd that you know that they're there and you're trying to entertain them.
02:46:50.000 You appreciate them.
02:46:51.000 You say something funny.
02:46:52.000 You're doing it.
02:46:54.000 They know you're doing it because they're there and it's funny.
02:46:57.000 And when it's improv, it's much more intimate.
02:46:59.000 When you have that one-liner that you knew wasn't part of his set speech, it's great.
02:47:03.000 So they're doing theirs their way, where it's just conversations.
02:47:06.000 And it's interesting because they're getting these giant crowds.
02:47:08.000 Yeah.
02:47:10.000 They also do produced ones, too.
02:47:13.000 Radio Lab does a produced live one, and it's really interesting.
02:47:16.000 They'll bring someone out, and they'll play sound clips, and I don't know if they have a video element of it.
02:47:22.000 I think they do.
02:47:23.000 I think they have visuals, too.
02:47:25.000 But they're doing it all in these big-ass theaters, and people love it, and they come out to see it.
02:47:30.000 So for someone who listens to Radio Lab every week, and they get a chance to go and see it live, it's like, wow.
02:47:36.000 I can't believe it's here.
02:47:37.000 It's a part of my life.
02:47:38.000 And this is the danger of the whole Twitter, Facebook stuff.
02:47:41.000 People are desperate and excited to hear new ideas, thought-provoking people, even if you disagree, right?
02:47:49.000 Two of my favorite people, like, a lot of times if you hear them talk, even if you don't care what they're saying or disagree with them, the energy, and it's like, this is fascinating, it's thought-provoking for me, it's just, nothing's better.
02:48:00.000 I think there's something really cool about people coming out to see these really interesting discussions, too.
02:48:06.000 Jordan had a debate with this...
02:48:08.000 Slavoj Zizek, yeah.
02:48:09.000 Thank you for saying his name.
02:48:10.000 I think I pronounced it right, maybe.
02:48:13.000 Better you than me.
02:48:15.000 About Marxism.
02:48:16.000 Yeah.
02:48:16.000 And it sold out.
02:48:18.000 Yeah, of course.
02:48:19.000 And then they had pay-per-view.
02:48:20.000 People were buying it and watching it.
02:48:21.000 Oh, of course.
02:48:22.000 This was like the WWE of our time.
02:48:23.000 It's like...
02:48:24.000 How are these two people in a room together?
02:48:26.000 I want to see this.
02:48:26.000 And they actually wound up agreeing on quite a few things.
02:48:30.000 It's really an interesting discussion, but it's also interesting that Marxism is such an attractive subject that they're willing to host this giant event and pay to see people debate this topic.
02:48:45.000 It's like, this is...
02:48:48.000 This idea that you could fill up a whole arena for an intellectual discourse.
02:48:54.000 Yeah.
02:48:54.000 Or a theater.
02:48:55.000 I mean, I don't know how big the place was.
02:48:56.000 And then you could also sell pay-per-view tickets for it. 0.99
02:48:59.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99
02:49:00.000 Who the hell is going to pay to hear that? 1.00
02:49:02.000 That's school. 1.00
02:49:03.000 Get out of here with that shit. 1.00
02:49:04.000 It's not. 1.00
02:49:05.000 I wish school was like that.
02:49:06.000 I wish, right?
02:49:07.000 There's no better way to get kids to hate learning than school.
02:49:10.000 Every kid is so excited about the world, you know, wants to go to the museum.
02:49:15.000 Not every kid, a lot.
02:49:16.000 Read books.
02:49:17.000 Then you go to school and that all goes away.
02:49:19.000 So true.
02:49:19.000 And you're a factory worker.
02:49:21.000 So anything that reinvigorates, your show does this too, reinvigorates your love of learning. 0.99
02:49:26.000 There's so much interesting, crazy shit out there. 0.98
02:49:29.000 Who doesn't love that? 1.00
02:49:30.000 There's so much creative.
02:49:31.000 The jocks back in the day didn't have that space.
02:49:34.000 And now...
02:49:35.000 Thanks to you and people like you, it's like, you know what?
02:49:37.000 I don't like reading books.
02:49:39.000 Reading's not for me.
02:49:40.000 I could sit here and listen for three hours, and I'm going to be a smarter person than it was three hours ago and learn stuff.
02:49:44.000 Who doesn't love history? 1.00
02:49:46.000 Even if you're the biggest meathead, it's like this shit's interesting, or like these crazy animals. 1.00
02:49:50.000 The biggest meathead will be like, oh shit, that's cold. 1.00
02:49:52.000 You hear about this giraffe weevil, which has a hinge in its neck, but only the males, and it's from Madagascar? 1.00
02:49:57.000 Yeah.
02:49:58.000 Yeah.
02:49:59.000 It's a real thing.
02:50:00.000 It is a real thing.
02:50:01.000 And I was going to say this.
02:50:04.000 It's fuel for your curiosity.
02:50:06.000 Yeah.
02:50:06.000 And for your creativity.
02:50:08.000 It's going to give you ideas.
02:50:10.000 There's so much fuel for creativity right now.
02:50:13.000 More so than any other time. 0.95
02:50:15.000 There's so much information and interesting shit you could learn and do it easily. 0.96
02:50:20.000 You could just find a podcast. 0.99
02:50:22.000 I need to learn about economics.
02:50:23.000 I need to find an economics podcast and start playing it.
02:50:26.000 And if the person's good...
02:50:28.000 They're interesting to talk to, and they can do it in a fun way.
02:50:31.000 Have you ever listened to Peter Schiff?
02:50:34.000 He's a funny guy.
02:50:36.000 I've had him on a few times.
02:50:37.000 And the way he describes things, it's like he's entertaining as well as factual, as well as just a compelling, charismatic person while he's talking about these things.
02:50:46.000 He's getting fired up.
02:50:47.000 And you're like, oh, okay, so that's how it works.
02:50:49.000 Yeah.
02:50:50.000 It's so much better than absorbing it in a dry, stale manner.
02:50:55.000 And then you go from that, like, oh, he mentioned this thing.
02:50:59.000 Let me learn about this.
02:51:00.000 Oh, there's a YouTube video about this.
02:51:02.000 And you go down this rabbit hole and it's just like hours of entertainment and you can have better conversations with other people.
02:51:08.000 Hey, I learned about this, this and that.
02:51:09.000 Yeah.
02:51:09.000 I feel so far behind kids these days.
02:51:12.000 When I meet an 18-year-old today, they're like a 30-year-old when I was a kid.
02:51:16.000 In what way?
02:51:16.000 They're smarter.
02:51:17.000 They have more info.
02:51:19.000 They have more data. 0.95
02:51:20.000 They know what's horseshit and what's not. 0.99
02:51:21.000 When we were in our 20s, we didn't know what the fuck was real and what was fake. 0.99
02:51:24.000 There was no YouTube. 0.96
02:51:25.000 There was no Google.
02:51:26.000 There was books.
02:51:27.000 And you didn't read them.
02:51:28.000 Oh, I read them.
02:51:29.000 Yeah, you might have.
02:51:30.000 I read a lot of them, Joe.
02:51:31.000 Yeah, I'm older than you.
02:51:33.000 You had books.
02:51:34.000 Yeah.
02:51:34.000 We didn't read about, like, to find out whether or not something's true.
02:51:38.000 Right.
02:51:39.000 Like we do today.
02:51:40.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:51:41.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:51:41.000 Like, when I was in my 20s, like, I wasn't, like, researching subjects.
02:51:45.000 I've read a few books here and there, but I wasn't researching things on every single aspect of the world the way the access to this information is just so radically different that you just have a thing in your pocket that answers your questions.
02:52:00.000 Right.
02:52:00.000 What else is fascinating is Google and other organizations have digitized entire libraries.
02:52:05.000 So many of these books that are old are public domain.
02:52:07.000 And for free, you can read this book from 1910 where these ideas got started.
02:52:12.000 And instead of hearing someone's interpretation of it now, you can see where this idea developed and how they looked at the world back then.
02:52:19.000 Now here's the real question.
02:52:20.000 Is that absolutely, we both agree, incredibly valuable resource.
02:52:28.000 Is that worth it?
02:52:30.000 We're good to go.
02:52:35.000 We're good to go.
02:52:49.000 Well, I... Change the world in a better way.
02:52:51.000 No, you should take advantage of the fact that you changed the world in a better way to profit in some insane, spectacular way where you generate billions and billions of dollars.
02:53:02.000 The thing we don't know is how they are generating that profit.
02:53:05.000 That's the issue.
02:53:06.000 Yeah.
02:53:06.000 So, if they're doing it in a certain way that we know about, alright.
02:53:09.000 If they don't, this is where it gets tricky because there's an element of fraud in it.
02:53:13.000 Well, I think they must be terrified.
02:53:16.000 Both...
02:53:17.000 Twitter and Facebook.
02:53:18.000 They must be terrified of their influence of culture.
02:53:21.000 Oh yeah, of course.
02:53:22.000 There's no way they can't.
02:53:23.000 The responsibility must be insane.
02:53:25.000 Do you know how you know this?
02:53:26.000 How?
02:53:26.000 Because a lot of people who were Republicans during the Iraq War and now look back on it, who are beating the drumbeats.
02:53:33.000 And I'm not going to name names. 1.00
02:53:34.000 You watch interviews and they're like, that shit was fucked up. 1.00
02:53:37.000 And when you look back and you realize you had a part to play in this unnecessary war, and if you're someone who cares about human beings as a Christian or whatever, that will fuck you up for life. 1.00
02:53:47.000 Because it's like, I had a little part in this. 0.94
02:53:49.000 Like when I do my work with North Korea, right? 0.97
02:53:51.000 If I help 10 people, that's a huge fucking deal. 1.00
02:53:55.000 And I don't take that shit lightly. 0.99
02:53:57.000 And here's the power of social media. 0.99
02:53:59.000 I've had people, three or four, tell me, I'm going through chemo, and I read your Twitter, and it makes me laugh throughout the day. 0.98
02:54:06.000 That's fucking huge!
02:54:08.000 Conversely, if you're on the side of Hillary Clinton, and you realize that your website might be contributing to her demise, and you realize that other countries might be posting fake accounts That are, 0.98
02:54:25.000 you know, they have these groups, these discussion groups, and they're based in Russia, and they want to talk about Black Lives Matter, or they want to talk about abortion, or they want to talk about Southern separatism, or all kinds of, you know, that IRA research group in Russia.
02:54:40.000 And you find out this is all happening on your platform, and that your platform is likely being used to manipulate how the world is run, how financial markets are run.
02:54:52.000 International politics.
02:54:53.000 And you just wanted to help college kids get laid.
02:54:56.000 Yeah.
02:54:56.000 Right.
02:54:57.000 Right.
02:54:57.000 Right.
02:54:58.000 Right.
02:54:59.000 You kind of jacked the idea, too, right?
02:55:01.000 What about the kids when they were torturing that retarded kid and it was at Chicago and they were streaming it on Facebook? 0.98
02:55:06.000 That's your site. 1.00
02:55:08.000 That's got to fuck with your head. 1.00
02:55:09.000 It's got to. 1.00
02:55:10.000 Well, there's been murders.
02:55:10.000 And the guy live streaming in New Zealand, he was live streaming.
02:55:13.000 Yes.
02:55:14.000 I mean, there's many, many cases of horrible things that have been put on there.
02:55:18.000 ISIS beheadings.
02:55:20.000 I mean, there's no way they can catch it all.
02:55:22.000 There's no way.
02:55:23.000 When you talk to Twitter or you talk to Facebook or YouTube, they'll tell you...
02:55:28.000 I want everyone to just think about the idea that 7 billion people...
02:55:34.000 Eh, let's be real conservative.
02:55:37.000 Potentially.
02:55:38.000 Three billion people.
02:55:39.000 Just three billion.
02:55:40.000 Three billion people can all send something at once.
02:55:46.000 At the speed of light.
02:55:48.000 Billions of bits of information headed towards YouTube or Twitter or Facebook.
02:55:53.000 And they're just trying to catch it all.
02:55:55.000 Some of it's Nazis and some of it's frogs.
02:55:57.000 And Alex Jones, baddest name!
02:55:59.000 And everything's flying in.
02:56:01.000 And then Congress is like, Mr. Zuckerberg, do you know what you're doing?
02:56:07.000 He's like, hold on, let me drink my water.
02:56:09.000 Hold on.
02:56:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:56:11.000 Mr. Senator?
02:56:14.000 Yes, we know what we're doing, I think.
02:56:15.000 I think, Mr. Senator?
02:56:19.000 As if that senator knows what he's doing also.
02:56:21.000 He's not a monk.
02:56:23.000 He's not some scholar.
02:56:24.000 He's not a genius.
02:56:25.000 He's not enlightened.
02:56:26.000 He's a guy. 0.99
02:56:27.000 He's not a stupid guy. 0.93
02:56:29.000 He's a smart guy. 0.98
02:56:30.000 But he's just a person.
02:56:31.000 Just a human.
02:56:32.000 And has an insane connection. 0.93
02:56:37.000 And insane.
02:56:38.000 He's the CEO of one of the biggest groups on the planet where people exchange conversation.
02:56:47.000 Which still hasn't verified me on Instagram, by the way.
02:56:49.000 Why not? 0.98
02:56:50.000 Because they're Nazis.
02:56:51.000 How many followers you got?
02:56:52.000 Only 7,000.
02:56:54.000 That's all you got?
02:56:54.000 That's my weakest one.
02:56:56.000 Bro, catch the fuck up. 0.99
02:57:00.000 But it's also like Lucy, Lucille Ball, when she's working at Chalka Factory, right? 0.97
02:57:03.000 The chocolates are coming out, and then they go faster and faster.
02:57:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:57:08.000 There's a certain point where you're not going to be able to process this much information and scan it.
02:57:13.000 It's impossible.
02:57:13.000 And any filter by its nature, any coder will tell you, is going to be imperfect, and it's going to weed out people it doesn't want to weed out, and leave people that you don't want to leave in.
02:57:22.000 Like, any filter is only as good as its creator.
02:57:24.000 That's what I wanted people to kind of understand.
02:57:34.000 We're good to go.
02:57:58.000 You should have a manual person double-check or triple-check before they're blocked.
02:58:01.000 You could give them a warning, explain why, because it's important for people...
02:58:05.000 Okay, but here's the question.
02:58:06.000 Blocked for what?
02:58:08.000 There's got to be rules where you are getting blocked. 0.99
02:58:10.000 If you're threatening violence against someone, if you're sending dick pics to a reporter, you should be blocked.
02:58:16.000 And if you have, you're putting up people's information. 0.98
02:58:20.000 Right, doxing.
02:58:21.000 Putting people's address out, people can go to your home.
02:58:23.000 Telling people you want to pay someone $100, take the photo.
02:58:27.000 You've got a photo and video of someone who's not giving you permission.
02:58:30.000 You're uploading it and offering.
02:58:32.000 This is what that guy did.
02:58:33.000 Yes, and he's still verified.
02:58:35.000 Offering $100.
02:58:35.000 That's crazy.
02:58:36.000 Now how does that work?
02:58:38.000 Ask him.
02:58:38.000 I'm not Jack.
02:58:39.000 How could that work?
02:58:40.000 I don't know, Jack.
02:58:40.000 Get it?
02:58:43.000 But very easily, people like that, you should tell them, that way you'd be banning if you're doxing people.
02:58:49.000 Yes.
02:58:49.000 But someone is doing a parody, you could be like, take this down for X, Y, and Z reasons.
02:58:53.000 Dude, the thing is, I think they tried to make a differentiation between doxing someone and threatening to dox someone.
02:59:01.000 This is how they kept Kathy Griffin on. 1.00
02:59:04.000 Right.
02:59:04.000 Remember when she was saying, I want names?
02:59:06.000 Of these kids, yeah.
02:59:07.000 Who are these kids?
02:59:08.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:59:08.000 You know, imagine if they did, and the kids eventually, all their information did wind up getting online, but when you watched the full video and you saw what actually happened, you're like, God damn! 0.97
02:59:21.000 You people have really shifted the narrative here. 0.95
02:59:23.000 Do you think if I posted a picture of myself holding up a bloody Hillary Clinton head that I wouldn't be banned?
02:59:30.000 I'm not going to find out, but that's a big deal.
02:59:33.000 And I don't even – she was obviously doing it as a joke.
02:59:36.000 I didn't find it offensive.
02:59:37.000 I think it would be funny if she was wearing a hijab while she did the photo. 0.98
02:59:39.000 But the point is she had no consequences on Twitter.
02:59:42.000 None.
02:59:43.000 Yeah, I think you would be banned.
02:59:46.000 Yeah.
02:59:47.000 I'm almost positive you'd be banned.
02:59:48.000 For whatever reason, it's more disturbing to see a guy hold a woman's head. 0.88
02:59:52.000 Sure, that's true.
02:59:54.000 But even if it was Obama?
02:59:56.000 The idea is that Kathy Griffin probably wouldn't be able to cut Trump's head off. 1.00
03:00:01.000 He'd kick her ass. 1.00
03:00:02.000 He's a big dude. 1.00
03:00:03.000 If she came at him with a knife, I mean, she'd have to shoot him and then cut his head off, which I guess she could do. 1.00
03:00:08.000 No, she's got to use the palms. 1.00
03:00:10.000 Oh, the palm to the nose?
03:00:12.000 The palm to the nose.
03:00:13.000 The nose bone in the brain.
03:00:13.000 How would you do that?
03:00:14.000 I'm just trying to run the numbers in my head.
03:00:17.000 There's 126 million daily users on Twitter.
03:00:20.000 How many people should they hire?
03:00:22.000 Remember when we were asking them?
03:00:23.000 That's going back over my head.
03:00:26.000 That queue, if someone could get through 100 a day, if they could get through 100 a day, that's spending five minutes on each of them.
03:00:33.000 That's 500 minutes.
03:00:37.000 Manually, there's no way you're going to do it.
03:00:40.000 The reporting system is smart.
03:00:43.000 You're relying on the users to report things that are an issue.
03:00:46.000 That's smart.
03:00:46.000 But it falls victim to trolling because then someone can just decide to attack Jamie Vernon.
03:00:51.000 Don't do it.
03:00:51.000 God, trolls are the worst.
03:00:53.000 Yeah, those fuck... 1.00
03:00:54.000 Oh, that's you. 1.00
03:00:55.000 Oh my goodness.
03:00:57.000 No, that's the bad kind of trolling. 1.00
03:00:58.000 That's just being an asshole. 1.00
03:00:59.000 Dude, we already did three hours. 1.00
03:01:01.000 Oh.
03:01:01.000 How is that possible?
03:01:02.000 I'm just adorable and charming.
03:01:04.000 I guess that something happened.
03:01:07.000 I'll go with that.
03:01:07.000 As good an answer as any.
03:01:09.000 Your book is called The New Right.
03:01:11.000 We barely talked about it.
03:01:13.000 That's more stuff for people to read.
03:01:15.000 Yeah.
03:01:15.000 A journey to the...
03:01:16.000 How's the first 12 pages?
03:01:17.000 Inside joke.
03:01:18.000 A journey to the fringe of American politics.
03:01:21.000 Michael Malice.
03:01:23.000 And thank you, brother.
03:01:24.000 Thank you.
03:01:25.000 Always a pleasure, Joe.
03:01:26.000 Thank you.
03:01:26.000 Bye, everybody.
03:01:30.000 That was a lot of fun.