The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1322 - Reggie Watts

00:00:00.000 Oh yeah, that's all he is.

00:00:02.000 Boom, and we're live.

00:00:03.000 That's it.

00:00:04.000 Hi.

00:00:04.000 Hello, Reggie.

00:00:06.000 Yeah, the stuffed purple venom.

00:00:08.000 That's what he calls it?

00:00:09.000 That's what his friend calls it.

00:00:10.000 And yeah, his friend's like, you know, pretty skeptical about other people's stuff.

00:00:14.000 Did you have a coke nail?

00:00:15.000 Was that a coke nail?

00:00:16.000 No.

00:00:16.000 The left one?

00:00:17.000 No, I know.

00:00:18.000 They're super long.

00:00:19.000 People think that their coke nails do not.

00:00:20.000 Are they fake?

00:00:21.000 No.

00:00:22.000 They're real.

00:00:22.000 But you don't do Coke?

00:00:24.000 I don't do Coke.

00:00:25.000 Ever?

00:00:25.000 Have you ever done Coke?

00:00:25.000 I mean, I do Coke zero.

00:00:27.000 I have done...

00:00:28.000 It's like Coke light.

00:00:30.000 It looks like Coke.

00:00:31.000 You can snort it.

00:00:32.000 It feels like Coke, but it doesn't give you high.

00:00:34.000 No, I have.

00:00:36.000 I've tried it, I would say, honestly, maybe four times.

00:00:39.000 And I've never...

00:00:40.000 It's always...

00:00:42.000 It just felt like I just took three shots of espresso.

00:00:45.000 And it's not really...

00:00:47.000 It doesn't do anything for me that I'm like, I better invest in that.

00:00:51.000 I need to try it one day because I need to know what's going on.

00:00:54.000 I'm 51 years old.

00:00:56.000 I don't know what Coke is.

00:00:59.000 I think it's worth, if you don't have a predisposition for being a hyper-addictive personality type.

00:01:04.000 Oh, I definitely do, but I'm also for it.

00:01:07.000 Wise enough to know I can quit things.

00:01:09.000 You've got experience.

00:01:10.000 You can control yourself.

00:01:13.000 Allegedly. 1.00

00:01:14.000 I guess I've just never been someone who's like, oh shit, gotta have that forever. 0.94

00:01:20.000 I've never been that way. 0.91

00:01:21.000 The only thing that I'm reduced to now is just...

00:01:23.000 Weed.

00:01:24.000 That's it.

00:01:24.000 Well, me too.

00:01:25.000 But I also think that it's one of those things, if your life is healthy, if you have a good balance and you're enjoying your time and you're being creative and you have good friends and you have fun, you're not looking for something to fuck your life up.

00:01:35.000 I think many of the times when you're dealing with people that have severe debilitating addictions that are really just taking over their life, there's something else going on.

00:01:43.000 Almost always.

00:01:44.000 It's like problems.

00:01:45.000 You know, relationship problems, work problems, life problems.

00:01:49.000 They're not happy.

00:01:51.000 There's an emptiness.

00:01:52.000 There's an emptiness that wants to be fed.

00:01:54.000 Or maybe you have a lot of success and you're freaking out about the success.

00:01:58.000 I think that happens with some celebrities.

00:02:00.000 Yes, I think so.

00:02:02.000 Yeah, overstimulation. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Spark that bitch. 1.00

00:02:04.000 Let's do this. 1.00

00:02:04.000 Oh yeah, let's do it. 1.00

00:02:05.000 Here it is.

00:02:06.000 I used an automated machine.

00:02:09.000 The Auto, have you heard of it?

00:02:10.000 No.

00:02:11.000 So cool.

00:02:11.000 It's a grinder and it fits on a tube that you put an empty rolling thing in there.

00:02:17.000 So you put that in there.

00:02:18.000 Oh, you got it.

00:02:19.000 And then it's like a clear tube.

00:02:22.000 You put in the pre-rolled, empty, whatever, joint thing.

00:02:26.000 And then you put this machine that just goes over, attaches magnetically, and then you put in your weed, and you just press a button.

00:02:32.000 And it's like coffee maker.

00:02:33.000 It's like...

00:02:34.000 And it fills it up perfectly, and then you just pack it by shaking it and twisting it, and you're done. 1.00

00:02:41.000 These goddamn stoners today. 1.00

00:02:43.000 They're getting too crazy. 1.00

00:02:44.000 I know.

00:02:45.000 I rarely smoke.

00:02:46.000 I always make exceptions for stuff like this.

00:02:48.000 Oh, look at it.

00:02:49.000 Wow.

00:02:50.000 That's actually pretty sleek looking.

00:02:53.000 Yeah, it's by Banana Brothers, I think.

00:02:56.000 You know, I smoke pretty regularly, but I got high with B-Real.

00:03:01.000 I did this smoke box show.

00:03:05.000 Who's B-Real? 0.64

00:03:06.000 Cypress Hill.

00:03:06.000 Oh, Cypress Hill.

00:03:07.000 How dare you?

00:03:08.000 I apologize.

00:03:09.000 Who's B-Real? 0.64

00:03:09.000 Just so you know, I know nothing about hip-hop. 0.64

00:03:12.000 Goddamn, Reggie. 0.99

00:03:12.000 How do you not know anything about Cypress Hill? 0.99

00:03:14.000 I know.

00:03:15.000 People are always like, you gotta know about hip-hop. 0.99

00:03:17.000 I'm like, I know shit. 0.99

00:03:18.000 I know Run DMC. You really don't know any hip-hop? 0.99

00:03:21.000 Now, I kind of stopped after the Bohemian phase.

00:03:25.000 You know, like after Tribe Called Quest and De La Soul.

00:03:28.000 It just kind of lost me because then it turned into... 0.99

00:03:30.000 I liked Gangster in the beginning, you know, because it was something new and you're like, what the fuck is this? 0.95

00:03:34.000 Oh, that's so cool, you know. 1.00

00:03:36.000 But then it kind of morphed into Club Hop, where it just was all about bitches and cars and all that shit. 1.00

00:03:41.000 And it was really the lyrics, the beats I loved. 0.99

00:03:43.000 I thought it was cool, but I just got tired of it.

00:03:46.000 I mean, because I left in 95. Wow, really?

00:03:50.000 I left hip-hop in 95, 96. And then I know there's plenty of hip-hop heads that'll be like, dude, you gotta check out Sony, you gotta check out Sony.

00:03:57.000 For sure. 1.00

00:03:57.000 I know there's shitloads of shit. 1.00

00:03:58.000 And maybe I'll go back into that phase, but mostly I just like the beats and the production. 0.99

00:04:03.000 The lyrics, I'm not really.

00:04:04.000 I'm not a lyrics guy, anyways.

00:04:06.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 I am a lyrics guy, and Nas is definitely my favorite lyricist, because his stuff is so creative.

00:04:12.000 Like, what was that one where he did everything backwards, did the whole song backwards?

00:04:15.000 Like, he started at the end, and then... 0.99

00:04:18.000 What the fuck was that called? 0.98

00:04:19.000 James, can I go... 0.99

00:04:20.000 Rewind?

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:21.000 I mean, super creative.

00:04:22.000 I mean, Major Look got me.

00:04:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:04:24.000 It made you look like, I saw that and I was like, that was actually a moment where I was like, oh, am I going to start getting back into this shit? 0.98

00:04:30.000 Because it was intelligent. 0.99

00:04:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:04:33.000 My thing is, if you're going to be boastful and all that shit, it should be like Muhammad Ali. 0.98

00:04:37.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

00:04:38.000 Super clever.

00:04:39.000 You have clever flair.

00:04:40.000 Also, you can just be right in someone's face, but I like that. 0.85

00:04:43.000 But then when people are kind of going off about how much money they have and all that shit, I'm like, I don't really care about that. 0.97

00:04:49.000 Well, I've analyzed this many times while under the influence. 0.95

00:04:53.000 The culture, it comes from not having something, and then once you have something, brag about it, right?

00:04:58.000 That's like Jay-Z. That's 99 Problems.

00:05:02.000 He talks about that in 99 Problems.

00:05:04.000 Yeah, I mean, I get it.

00:05:06.000 I get it.

00:05:06.000 But at the same time, if it just sounds like basically the three things that everyone talks about, which is women, cars of some sort, and money, or the things you can buy with money, after a while, it just all bleeds together.

00:05:19.000 It's the same song.

00:05:21.000 And I mean, it's so dope that you can come from nothing, and you can work your way up, and you can hustle, and you can get stuff going in.

00:05:27.000 But once you get to that place, why not take advantage of that platform?

00:05:30.000 What about Run the Jewels?

00:05:32.000 I've heard good things about it.

00:05:33.000 How dare you?

00:05:34.000 Chance the Rapper, I've heard good things about it. 1.00

00:05:35.000 God damn. 1.00

00:05:36.000 I know. 1.00

00:05:36.000 I don't know shit, man. 1.00

00:05:38.000 I'm more of like a... 0.99

00:05:38.000 Run the Jewels is so creative. 0.99

00:05:40.000 I'm an electronic guy.

00:05:41.000 I like music.

00:05:42.000 Let me turn you on to some Run the Jewels. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Please.

00:05:44.000 I wish we could play it on the podcast, but then we can't do that anymore.

00:05:47.000 Back in the day.

00:05:48.000 You run your jewels, man.

00:05:49.000 Yeah, they will run your jewels right out of town. 0.90

00:05:52.000 But back in the day when you had, like, the internet was, no one knew what a podcast was. 0.99

00:05:57.000 You could do all kinds of shit. 0.98

00:05:58.000 You could just play things. 1.00

00:05:59.000 I mean, you still can.

00:06:01.000 I mean, if it was livestream, you could.

00:06:02.000 You get taken down.

00:06:03.000 You get demonetized.

00:06:05.000 You get a strike against your channel.

00:06:07.000 If you get three strikes, they take your channel down permanently.

00:06:09.000 It's all super sketchy.

00:06:10.000 Oh, are you using YouTube?

00:06:11.000 Yes.

00:06:12.000 Okay.

00:06:12.000 That's the real problem.

00:06:13.000 YouTube's the real problem.

00:06:14.000 I'm bypassing all that very soon.

00:06:17.000 What are you doing?

00:06:18.000 I'm just doing my own livestreaming.

00:06:20.000 That's smart. 0.99

00:06:21.000 Yeah, because that way I just don't have to worry about all that bullshit. 0.91

00:06:24.000 Yeah, ultimately that's where it's probably going to have to go. 0.97

00:06:27.000 Yes.

00:06:28.000 But at the same time, everybody's at YouTube.

00:06:31.000 So the secret is, or the question is, how can you...

00:06:36.000 Well, you can do both.

00:06:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:37.000 I think that's the way to go.

00:06:39.000 You want a zero alcohol Heineken?

00:06:42.000 Are you serious?

00:06:43.000 Yeah, I'll try a zero.

00:06:44.000 Yeah, because my problem with alcohol is alcohol.

00:06:46.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 So, yeah.

00:06:47.000 These are actually very good.

00:06:48.000 Thanks, man.

00:06:48.000 They taste like a regular Heineken.

00:06:51.000 Mmm.

00:06:52.000 Check what I thought.

00:06:53.000 Do you see these?

00:06:55.000 What is that?

00:06:56.000 It's a Microtech...

00:07:00.000 California legal switchblade.

00:07:01.000 What?

00:07:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:03.000 What are you, stabbing people with a tiny knife? 0.95

00:07:05.000 What are you doing, Reggie? 1.00

00:07:05.000 What the fuck's been going on since I saw you last? 1.00

00:07:07.000 I like it. 0.99

00:07:08.000 Well, I like having a knife.

00:07:09.000 I'm from Montana.

00:07:10.000 You always have a knife.

00:07:11.000 It's like the greatest tool.

00:07:13.000 But it makes sense.

00:07:16.000 How's the button go?

00:07:17.000 Okay, so hold it the opposite way.

00:07:19.000 Turn it around, flip it around.

00:07:21.000 Yeah, and then the button on the top side.

00:07:23.000 See, there's like a lever.

00:07:24.000 That button?

00:07:24.000 No.

00:07:25.000 This thing here?

00:07:26.000 Yeah, that.

00:07:26.000 So this is on the back.

00:07:28.000 This is a glass breaker.

00:07:29.000 Okay.

00:07:29.000 A glass breaker?

00:07:30.000 Yeah, for like if you're in your car, you know, or whatever, and you need to break the window.

00:07:34.000 Jesus.

00:07:36.000 But here's the switch.

00:07:37.000 Is that really what that's for?

00:07:38.000 Yes.

00:07:39.000 Let me see that.

00:07:40.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:07:41.000 So this would break your window?

00:07:42.000 Yeah.

00:07:44.000 Hmm.

00:07:45.000 Dude, but how many people do you think could break a window with this?

00:07:48.000 I bet if you got a lot of people.

00:07:50.000 I just saw a video.

00:07:50.000 There's a thing.

00:07:51.000 Get some old car windows and, like, line them up and just fucking... 0.98

00:07:54.000 Yeah, because... 0.98

00:07:55.000 It seems like...

00:07:55.000 That's, like, kind of a weird, like, standardized tip for glass breakers.

00:08:00.000 Really?

00:08:00.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:08:01.000 So would you get it...

00:08:02.000 See, but it seems like it's sliding in your hand.

00:08:04.000 It doesn't...

00:08:05.000 It's too small.

00:08:06.000 I think if you, you know, if you wedge it in, if you held it tight in your fist, you know, with your thumb over it, I think if you hit at...

00:08:11.000 It's more about velocity, I think, rather than strength.

00:08:14.000 Yeah, I guess you could do it.

00:08:14.000 Just whack it.

00:08:15.000 Yeah, because the way it's designed is to just be like super precise strike.

00:08:19.000 What do you want?

00:08:20.000 It's carrying a glass breaker with them, man.

00:08:22.000 Yeah.

00:08:23.000 You're not playing any games.

00:08:23.000 You're ready.

00:08:24.000 Do you have water?

00:08:25.000 You have like bottled water in your car at all times?

00:08:27.000 In my car, I have bottled water.

00:08:28.000 I have a jumper.

00:08:30.000 You can jump yourself.

00:08:32.000 You know, if you have bottled water in your car in LA, you're basically drinking. 1.00

00:08:36.000 What is that shit that comes that leaks from your plastic? 1.00

00:08:40.000 BPA? Oh, I'm not using it. 1.00

00:08:41.000 I have glass.

00:08:42.000 Ah.

00:08:42.000 It's all glass.

00:08:43.000 You have glass.

00:08:44.000 How dare me? 1.00

00:08:44.000 No, fuck that. 1.00

00:08:45.000 I mean, people are going to be bitching because I talk about plastic bottles all the time. 1.00

00:08:50.000 Oh, because we have one on here?

00:08:51.000 It's here.

00:08:52.000 Yeah, we need a better solution for that.

00:08:54.000 We should probably get glass and get a water jug.

00:08:56.000 Yeah, you just get a municipal filter.

00:08:59.000 And that's it.

00:09:00.000 And you get alkalized water, room temperature, whatever.

00:09:03.000 And you can just have clean water and you just have tons and tons of vessels.

00:09:07.000 I'm sure someone with BKR would sponsor you or something like that.

00:09:10.000 What's BKR? They're like a canteen company or water carrying jug company.

00:09:18.000 We could have people drink out of mason jars.

00:09:20.000 That would be dope.

00:09:21.000 Pretend they're like old folks. 1.00

00:09:22.000 Hell yeah. 0.91

00:09:23.000 Old timey.

00:09:24.000 Are you kidding?

00:09:24.000 Yeah, it'll be like grandma's kitchen cupboard.

00:09:27.000 Yeah, why do people like drinking out of mason jars?

00:09:29.000 I think it started with grandma's.

00:09:31.000 What was that band?

00:09:33.000 What was that one band?

00:09:34.000 No.

00:09:35.000 It was that one sort of bluesy, rocky band.

00:09:41.000 How long ago?

00:09:42.000 Pretty recently.

00:09:43.000 Mumford& Sons?

00:09:44.000 Bam. 1.00

00:09:44.000 Jamie's a goddamn wizard. 1.00

00:09:46.000 Jamie's a goddamn wizard. 1.00

00:09:48.000 How he do it? 1.00

00:09:49.000 How he do it?

00:09:50.000 He knows what I'm going to ask before he Googles it.

00:09:53.000 He's a wizard.

00:09:53.000 He's got something.

00:09:55.000 He's got something.

00:09:55.000 Some special talent.

00:09:56.000 But yeah, those guys, they dressed like they were from another era, right?

00:10:00.000 They wore like weird clothes from like the pioneer days.

00:10:03.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:10:04.000 They look like time travelers, like from a steampunk era.

00:10:06.000 I mean, kind of.

00:10:07.000 I mean, I know what you're saying.

00:10:08.000 Like in the beginning.

00:10:09.000 You know Fortune Femster? 0.99

00:10:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:10:12.000 She's great.

00:10:13.000 Really funny.

00:10:14.000 I wish I remember her joke, but she had a funny joke about Mumford& Sons and mason jars.

00:10:20.000 Really?

00:10:21.000 Oh, sweet!

00:10:22.000 Yeah.

00:10:23.000 Oh, that's good.

00:10:24.000 Mumford& Sons and mason jars.

00:10:25.000 I think it was like something to the tune of, you know, she used mason jars for real. 0.99

00:10:31.000 Not like this bullshit. 0.99

00:10:32.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:10:32.000 She actually grew up poor. 1.00

00:10:33.000 I think that was it.

00:10:34.000 I apologize if I'm wrong.

00:10:35.000 She's very funny, though.

00:10:36.000 I mean, she's so rad. 0.52

00:10:39.000 I saw her in Australia.

00:10:42.000 Sydney.

00:10:43.000 She's doing a podcast with Tom Papa.

00:10:45.000 Oh.

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 Who's Tom Papa?

00:10:47.000 Sorry.

00:10:48.000 How dare you again?

00:10:50.000 Sorry, guys.

00:10:50.000 Tom Papa is a brilliant stand-up comedian.

00:10:53.000 Really, really funny guy.

00:10:54.000 Super, super nice guy, too.

00:10:55.000 And he's the master of bread.

00:10:58.000 Bread? 1.00

00:10:59.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:10:59.000 He makes his own sourdough bread, and it is sensational. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Oh, that's too much for one person to be able to do that.

00:11:07.000 He comes over here, and he brings a loaf of bread and grass-fed butter.

00:11:12.000 Oh, no.

00:11:13.000 Bro, you cannot resist.

00:11:14.000 You cannot resist this bread.

00:11:16.000 This bread is so good. 1.00

00:11:18.000 Fuck your keto diet. 1.00

00:11:19.000 If it doesn't include Tom Papa's bread, fuck your keto diet. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Does he sell it at a bakery? 1.00

00:11:25.000 No, no, no, no.

00:11:25.000 He just makes it himself.

00:11:26.000 There he is.

00:11:26.000 And he has a television show he's doing on a food network where he's visiting bakers.

00:11:31.000 He's a brilliant guy.

00:11:32.000 And a super nice guy.

00:11:34.000 Couldn't be a nicer guy.

00:11:35.000 And he just loves making bread. 1.00

00:11:37.000 He's so silly. 0.97

00:11:38.000 That's me eating his bread. 1.00

00:11:39.000 It's so good.

00:11:41.000 And it's like, I really believe this.

00:11:43.000 That if you get food from someone who's really cool...

00:11:48.000 It feels different.

00:11:49.000 It tastes different.

00:11:50.000 And Tom is just such a nice guy.

00:11:52.000 He's so funny and he's so smart.

00:11:54.000 When you're eating his bread, you feel like, I'm eating a cool guy's bread.

00:11:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:11:59.000 You know?

00:12:00.000 It's like someone who you love cooks you something.

00:12:02.000 If your mom cooks you something, it's like, wow.

00:12:06.000 It's not just good, it's good and it comes from love.

00:12:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because the other person who made it is just standing right there while you're having it.

00:12:13.000 Yeah.

00:12:13.000 It's a pretty unique experience, especially for bread.

00:12:16.000 Yeah.

00:12:17.000 I think that's the big thing with food, too, with cooking.

00:12:20.000 You know, I never really thought of food as an art form until I started watching No Reservations, which was Anthony Bourdain's original show.

00:12:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:28.000 Back when he was on the Travel Channel.

00:12:30.000 Okay.

00:12:30.000 And then I was like, oh!

00:12:32.000 Like, duh!

00:12:34.000 In my head, they were just cooks.

00:12:36.000 They were just cooking food.

00:12:37.000 Because I cooked food before.

00:12:39.000 I used to work at Newport Creamery.

00:12:40.000 I made burgers.

00:12:41.000 I made grilled cheese.

00:12:42.000 Yeah, sure.

00:12:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:44.000 That's cooking. 0.99

00:12:44.000 So it's like, I knew how to put the fucking fries in. 0.99

00:12:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:12:48.000 But watching these chefs create these really elaborate, creative dishes, you start going, oh.

00:12:54.000 Oh, this is an art form.

00:12:56.000 It's just like a...

00:12:57.000 Weird one, like where it's temporary.

00:12:59.000 It only exists for a short window in time.

00:13:02.000 But now that we have film of it, and now that we have photographs of it, like things on Instagram, now you start to appreciate that, oh, it looks amazing, too.

00:13:11.000 That's part of the thing.

00:13:13.000 If you could have the most incredible steak, but it came to you and it looked like the shittiest looking lentil soup.

00:13:19.000 Like split pea soup.

00:13:21.000 Just the peas, though.

00:13:23.000 Just a bowl of green.

00:13:25.000 But it was the most incredible taste.

00:13:28.000 Yes, right, right, right.

00:13:29.000 But yeah, but they're like, they're making things like, yeah, they're addressing as many senses as possible now.

00:13:34.000 Yeah, like Tom's bread looks good.

00:13:37.000 Yeah, looks like something you want to eat.

00:13:39.000 He's got like a perfect crust on the outside with those little slices on the top of the circle of the bread.

00:13:42.000 Like, look at this.

00:13:43.000 See how he gets that?

00:13:44.000 Yeah, I know.

00:13:44.000 Come on, man!

00:13:45.000 And you're like, oh, this has to, we have to take care of this.

00:13:48.000 Yes, it's art.

00:13:49.000 It's art, too.

00:13:51.000 It's a temporary art form.

00:13:53.000 We just think of art as something like that Buddhist statue or something that just lasts forever.

00:13:57.000 Yeah.

00:13:58.000 But there's some art, like a sandcastle.

00:14:00.000 It's just temporary.

00:14:01.000 Well, you know, in a weird way, music is kind of like that.

00:14:07.000 If it's not recorded, right?

00:14:09.000 Yeah, well, no.

00:14:09.000 I mean, if it is recorded.

00:14:11.000 Because you only experience it temporarily, but it exists as an idea in your head.

00:14:16.000 You know, like a ghost image of it.

00:14:19.000 But then when you listen, listen to it.

00:14:21.000 When you press play and you listen to it, it's happening in real time.

00:14:24.000 As soon as you stop it, it no longer exists.

00:14:27.000 So you're still just like in the kind of shadow memory of it.

00:14:31.000 Right.

00:14:31.000 If you're not interacting with it, it doesn't exist.

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Wow.

00:14:36.000 Yeah.

00:14:39.000 Imagine if there was something like that you could do with smells, right?

00:14:42.000 Because smells are the one sense that doesn't get any love.

00:14:45.000 Like your eyes, people make all these beautiful things, right?

00:14:48.000 Your ears, people make beautiful music. 1.00

00:14:51.000 But you got like perfume, cologne, and some fucking flowers. 1.00

00:14:54.000 That's all you got. 1.00

00:14:55.000 And weird shit, like patchouli, where they're like, settle down. 0.99

00:14:59.000 Settle down. 0.99

00:15:00.000 Settle down with your wooden beads.

00:15:02.000 Settle down.

00:15:04.000 Settle down with your instinct.

00:15:06.000 Yeah.

00:15:07.000 Those incense sticks.

00:15:09.000 Amber sticks.

00:15:10.000 Amber smells.

00:15:11.000 By the way, Miss Pat, after she was on, she sent me incense.

00:15:15.000 Did she send it to you, too? 0.99

00:15:15.000 Black pussy incense. 0.99

00:15:17.000 What? 0.99

00:15:17.000 Because she was talking about it on the podcast. 0.99

00:15:19.000 Did she make one?

00:15:20.000 No, she was just talking about crazy incense flavors that she's aware of.

00:15:26.000 Oh, wow.

00:15:27.000 And then she was saying she uses them, or people use them.

00:15:30.000 I mean, the thing is, you know that there's a niche market where people are making custom incense with names like that.

00:15:37.000 Like, they legitimately are naming them that way because it's a hip thing.

00:15:41.000 Yeah, that's a very specific kind of person, right?

00:15:44.000 If you're an incense person, you have some kind of rug on the floor, like some kind of Persian-type rug, it's Miss Pat.

00:15:51.000 That's just it.

00:15:52.000 Yeah.

00:15:53.000 So what is it? 0.94

00:15:54.000 Oh, butt naked. 0.96

00:15:54.000 Hey, Jeff Rogan could have sent you some of these. 0.96

00:15:56.000 One says butt naked.

00:15:57.000 What is the other ones? 0.93

00:15:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:59.000 Black love.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:16:01.000 Black butter.

00:16:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:03.000 Pussy. 1.00

00:16:03.000 Do you know Miss Pat? 1.00

00:16:04.000 No.

00:16:05.000 Oh, my God.

00:16:05.000 You got to meet her.

00:16:06.000 She's one of the funniest human beings on earth, for sure. 1.00

00:16:10.000 Damn. 1.00

00:16:10.000 One of the funniest people I've ever met. 1.00

00:16:12.000 Like right up there with Joey Diaz. 0.99

00:16:13.000 Shit. 1.00

00:16:14.000 She's so funny. 1.00

00:16:15.000 She's ridiculous. 1.00

00:16:16.000 Like you leave a podcast with her and your fucking face hurts. 1.00

00:16:19.000 Someone said that if you get John Witherspoon, Joey Diaz, and Miss Pat on a podcast together, we would like break the space-time continuum. 0.99

00:16:27.000 Are you going to do it? 1.00

00:16:28.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:16:29.000 I would love to do that. 1.00

00:16:30.000 But I would shut my mouth.

00:16:32.000 I wouldn't say a word.

00:16:34.000 I would just want them to have fun.

00:16:36.000 Do you know John Witherspoon?

00:16:37.000 I don't know.

00:16:39.000 Dude, he came out with his son.

00:16:40.000 His son, JD, is a comic as well.

00:16:42.000 Yeah.

00:16:43.000 I met JD at the comedy store and we were talking about his dad.

00:16:45.000 I'm like, your dad is...

00:16:46.000 He's like an epic human being. 0.99

00:16:48.000 He's so fucking funny. 0.97

00:16:50.000 And he's like, let me get my dad to come in and do the podcast. 0.89

00:16:52.000 I'm like, yeah, let's do it.

00:16:53.000 I would love to have you guys on.

00:16:54.000 Come on.

00:16:55.000 So it might actually be my idea.

00:16:57.000 I don't remember how it came out.

00:16:58.000 But anyway, he comes in here and it's like the son is completely normal.

00:17:03.000 JD's intelligent.

00:17:05.000 He's funny.

00:17:06.000 He's very...

00:17:09.000 You know, you're not shocked by him.

00:17:11.000 He's a funny, smart guy.

00:17:13.000 Yeah.

00:17:13.000 But his dad is from another planet.

00:17:15.000 Everything he says is funny. 0.99

00:17:17.000 The way he says it is funny, he does not give a fuck. 0.99

00:17:20.000 Oh, I know that cat. 0.99

00:17:21.000 Yeah, dude, he's been in everything.

00:17:23.000 Yeah, I know that cat.

00:17:24.000 He's on, like, his own groove. 0.99

00:17:26.000 He's on this, uh, I don't give a fuck times a million groove. 0.98

00:17:31.000 And he's been doing it a long time. 0.99

00:17:32.000 Even his son's laughing.

00:17:34.000 He's like, see?

00:17:35.000 This is what I grew up with.

00:17:36.000 That is crazy.

00:17:37.000 He's so funny.

00:17:39.000 That guy, you can make him funny in a movie.

00:17:41.000 You give him a good movie part, he'll do great in it.

00:17:44.000 But he will never be able to compare to him just being him in the moment.

00:17:47.000 Because you lose that in the moment thing.

00:17:49.000 Well, you know, he doesn't have anything planned out. 0.99

00:17:51.000 He's not reading a fucking script. 0.98

00:17:53.000 The guy just for three hours is just hilarious about anything. 0.99

00:17:56.000 About shoes.

00:17:57.000 He's hilarious about money.

00:17:59.000 He's hilarious about his drink.

00:18:01.000 He wants to put his money in his pocket and rub it.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, he can hit any angle.

00:18:08.000 Anything is fair game.

00:18:09.000 He's doing a kind of art, the art of being him.

00:18:12.000 This is what me and his son were talking about, and this is why it relates.

00:18:16.000 He's doing an art form, but it seems like he's just being himself.

00:18:19.000 And he is!

00:18:20.000 But he's figured out how to be himself that is the most hilarious to the most people.

00:18:25.000 And it's a matter of whether or not you can plug that into a movie successfully.

00:18:30.000 Maybe.

00:18:31.000 The best thing about him, just let him talk.

00:18:33.000 Just let him talk. 1.00

00:18:35.000 Fuck your scripts. 1.00

00:18:37.000 This guy's got a thing. 1.00

00:18:39.000 He's got a thing.

00:18:41.000 It's an art.

00:18:43.000 It's just like cooking.

00:18:45.000 It's just like music.

00:18:47.000 There's an art to being a person, even.

00:18:50.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:18:51.000 Why are some girls sexier? 1.00

00:18:54.000 Is it just biology?

00:18:56.000 Or is there an art to the way they communicate with you?

00:19:00.000 Like, when people are being flirtatious and they're talking to each other, there's an art to that.

00:19:05.000 There's like a little bit of a dance going on there.

00:19:07.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:19:08.000 Some people are better at it.

00:19:10.000 Yeah.

00:19:11.000 I mean, yeah.

00:19:12.000 I mean, it's, you know, what gets your attention?

00:19:14.000 I mean, there's so many factors.

00:19:16.000 Right.

00:19:16.000 It's, like, also, like, what you tend to view, what's the first cue that generally will set you off, whatever that is.

00:19:24.000 Experience as you were a kid or, you know, someone, your aunt or whatever was really cool and your cousin wasn't really sexy and those two, a combination of those two elements are, like, something that you hit.

00:19:34.000 But I will say, like, yeah.

00:19:35.000 I think it's just someone who's, when they're comfortable with themselves, they just have a...

00:19:39.000 It also depends on what you're looking for, too.

00:19:41.000 Yep, yep.

00:19:42.000 But, because there's a co-resonance.

00:19:44.000 There has to be a...

00:19:44.000 Just like art.

00:19:45.000 Just like music, like we were talking about.

00:19:47.000 Do you like it or not?

00:19:48.000 Right.

00:19:48.000 Music, to you, it might be the greatest song of all time.

00:19:50.000 To Jamie, he's like, eh, I can take it or leave it.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:53.000 It's weird.

00:19:53.000 And then you can have an argument about it, which is really sweet.

00:19:56.000 But no one's ever right.

00:19:57.000 The bottom line about that stuff is, if you love Motley Crue, you love Motley Crue.

00:20:01.000 It's not that there's anything wrong with Motley Crue.

00:20:04.000 I'm glad you used that example. 0.98

00:20:04.000 But if you're fucking at home by yourself going, girls, girls, girls. 0.98

00:20:10.000 If you're loving it, that's art. 0.99

00:20:13.000 Why are we so judgy? 0.99

00:20:14.000 I do that with Whitesnake all the fucking time, man. 0.99

00:20:18.000 I've told this story before, but a dude sent me in a Whitesnake cassette. 0.99

00:20:24.000 It's in the office.

00:20:25.000 Because I had a girlfriend that made me throw it away after I got in a car accident.

00:20:29.000 I had a Whitesnake cassette in my car.

00:20:31.000 Oh, what?

00:20:31.000 Why'd she make it?

00:20:32.000 Because she thought it was bad juju?

00:20:34.000 She was really into telling me what to do.

00:20:35.000 She was older than me.

00:20:37.000 Okay.

00:20:39.000 And she's packing up all my stuff because my car was broken.

00:20:42.000 I got T-boned.

00:20:44.000 And as I'm grabbing all my stuff, she's like, leave that.

00:20:48.000 I go, leave what?

00:20:49.000 She's like, leave the Whitesnake.

00:20:50.000 You gotta get over that music.

00:20:54.000 And I was like, really?

00:20:55.000 She's like, yeah, it's terrible music. 1.00

00:20:56.000 She was in, like, the Pixies, that kind of shit. 0.99

00:20:58.000 I don't even know if the Pixies existed back then. 0.96

00:21:00.000 I loved them, too, but I also loved Whitesnake.

00:21:03.000 There's a thing that people do, though, where they only like things that make them appear smart or interesting.

00:21:11.000 And it's like a hustle.

00:21:13.000 Like, you tell people you're really into Indian food.

00:21:16.000 You might really be, but there's also a thing you're doing.

00:21:19.000 Like, you're that person that's only into the cool stuff. 0.98

00:21:23.000 But, like, that fucking Whitesnake song is badass. 0.98

00:21:27.000 That Here I Go Again. 0.99

00:21:29.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

00:21:31.000 They only had a few that were, like, really good. 0.90

00:21:34.000 But that song is fucking banging to this day. 0.97

00:21:37.000 Is This Love? 0.98

00:21:38.000 That's a sexy video. 0.87

00:21:39.000 Oh, that's right.

00:21:39.000 That was good.

00:21:39.000 The video is, like, one of my favorite videos.

00:21:42.000 It's, like, the coolest, even though it was 80s and it was, like, hyper 80s, it's one of the few videos, to me, in my mind, that...

00:21:51.000 That had a style that kind of approaches timeless.

00:21:55.000 Really?

00:21:56.000 Yeah, in a way.

00:21:57.000 How good is this weed?

00:21:58.000 The sincerity of it.

00:22:00.000 I mean, that video is sexy with Tawny Katane and her moving around the bed or whatever. 0.98

00:22:07.000 It was classy.

00:22:08.000 It was sexy.

00:22:09.000 It was very adult kind of feeling.

00:22:11.000 Let's watch it. 1.00

00:22:12.000 Shit. 1.00

00:22:13.000 But she looks amazing. 1.00

00:22:15.000 And I love him just leaning on the wall like that.

00:22:18.000 I mean, it's like...

00:22:19.000 Come on, man.

00:22:20.000 This is...

00:22:21.000 It's a brick wall.

00:22:22.000 Look, he's like Mr. Cool Guy.

00:22:24.000 Yeah, it's totally cool! 0.90

00:22:25.000 It's done in such a sincere way, but it's just on the right side of me still thinking that it's fucking great.

00:22:34.000 It's great art direction. 0.96

00:22:35.000 It's promoting ridiculous interactions. 0.58

00:22:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:38.000 Promoting a ridiculous relationship. 1.00

00:22:40.000 Just fucking talk. 1.00

00:22:41.000 What is all this drama? 1.00

00:22:42.000 I mean, that shit, look at those shots. 1.00

00:22:45.000 His hair, it's amazing. 1.00

00:22:47.000 His hair is wonderful.

00:22:47.000 I mean, he's very serious about what he's singing.

00:22:50.000 He's like a better looking Luke from General Hospital.

00:22:54.000 Remember Luke and Laura?

00:22:55.000 Yes.

00:22:55.000 That guy is like a better looking Luke.

00:22:58.000 That's so hilarious.

00:22:59.000 His hair is preposterous.

00:23:00.000 I know.

00:23:01.000 Everybody's hair is just like off the charts.

00:23:04.000 Imagine if you had a friend that just had hair like that.

00:23:06.000 Like, hey, let's go hit the gym. 1.00

00:23:08.000 He's like, hey man, you want to go get a gallon of hairspray in that shit? 1.00

00:23:14.000 It's primped out. 1.00

00:23:15.000 That's just, I mean, back then...

00:23:18.000 That's just crazy to me.

00:23:19.000 You know what it is?

00:23:19.000 That's white hair, bro.

00:23:20.000 Yeah.

00:23:21.000 You have the solution to that.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:24.000 Your hair, you just, it's fantastic.

00:23:26.000 You don't have to do anything.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:29.000 It's a totally lazy...

00:23:30.000 It's chaos, though.

00:23:31.000 It's lazy.

00:23:32.000 Yeah, it's chaos, but at the same time, like, ah, you know.

00:23:34.000 Right, but there's no work involved in that chaos.

00:23:36.000 It's a beautiful chaos.

00:23:38.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:23:39.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:39.000 As opposed to like, you know, you got one of them picks and you're spraying picks and spraying.

00:23:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:43.000 To get his hair that big.

00:23:45.000 Oh, I know.

00:23:45.000 There's a lot of work involved there.

00:23:47.000 That's a shit ton of hairspray. 1.00

00:23:48.000 There's a lady off set. 1.00

00:23:49.000 It's just to keep putting.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:51.000 Constantly checking symmetry.

00:23:53.000 Here, Michael.

00:23:53.000 Look at you.

00:23:56.000 I mean, the guitar, the band, White Snake, the band, it was the supergroup of hard rock.

00:24:07.000 Or metal, I guess.

00:24:09.000 It kind of bleeds into that, like classic metal.

00:24:11.000 There's been a few of those supergroups.

00:24:13.000 This one freaked me out, man.

00:24:14.000 I'm like, get off the car!

00:24:15.000 What are you doing to the She's a car lady! 1.00

00:24:18.000 It's like, she just doesn't care, man.

00:24:20.000 She's rude! 1.00

00:24:20.000 She's doing cartwheels on the car. 1.00

00:24:22.000 She's wild.

00:24:22.000 Look how serious.

00:24:23.000 That's what I mean, man.

00:24:24.000 He's really serious about what he's singing about.

00:24:26.000 Yeah, look.

00:24:27.000 And he's got three synth players in a row, by the way.

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:31.000 Look at that.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, what is that?

00:24:33.000 I mean, that's kind of hardcore.

00:24:35.000 I wish we could play this, because it's so wonderful.

00:24:37.000 I do love the idea, I mean, the hair color combination in the car, I mean, it's good.

00:24:42.000 You know what this is?

00:24:43.000 This is what happened when the war on drugs had a brief victory.

00:24:48.000 This is what happened.

00:24:48.000 Oh, I thought you were talking about the band for a second.

00:24:50.000 Yes, I am.

00:24:51.000 You are talking about the band?

00:24:52.000 The times.

00:24:53.000 Really?

00:24:53.000 The times.

00:24:54.000 What happened here, the difference between Jimi Hendrix and this, is the absence of drugs.

00:25:02.000 Oh.

00:25:03.000 This is music created on the match.

00:25:05.000 Well, this is coke.

00:25:05.000 Yeah, probably.

00:25:07.000 Probably, yeah.

00:25:07.000 This is definitely...

00:25:08.000 Maybe a little Coke every now and then, but it's not created by Coke.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, but it's like high-end party vibe. 1.00

00:25:14.000 These guys are living the high-end party shit. 1.00

00:25:17.000 Sure, I guess. 1.00

00:25:18.000 I guess that's where they're coming from.

00:25:20.000 But to me, that's why someone described the NS10s, the classic studio monitors, like when you're switching between different types of speakers.

00:25:31.000 I don't know what that is.

00:25:31.000 Can you show me what that looks like?

00:25:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:34.000 See, right now you and Jamie are on the same frequency.

00:25:36.000 He's an audio guy.

00:25:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, well, they're like this classic mixing, like Auratone, and they're just like speaker systems that have kind of become standards to a certain degree.

00:25:47.000 Yeah.

00:25:47.000 And the weird thing about NS10s, it's like in the 80s when they were using them, I believe that's the right name for it, but in the 80s when they were using them, It was really...

00:25:57.000 It had so much harsh high-end.

00:25:59.000 It was so crispy sounding.

00:26:01.000 And they said it was because of...

00:26:02.000 Yeah.

00:26:04.000 It's because of Coke usage.

00:26:06.000 What?

00:26:07.000 And Coke usage creates...

00:26:09.000 Basically, brains tend to favor different sound frequencies under the influence of different drugs.

00:26:14.000 And with Coke, they like that high-end, crispy sizzle that was hitting all the time.

00:26:19.000 And that was all amplified.

00:26:20.000 So then, when you hear 80s music, it tends to be...

00:26:23.000 It's mixed, not all of it, but a great deal of it is mixed with a lot of upper-mid trouble-ness to crispiness.

00:26:33.000 That totally makes sense.

00:26:36.000 Sometimes albums need to be remastered because of that.

00:26:38.000 Wow!

00:26:40.000 But that speaker is responsible.

00:26:42.000 This is what I heard.

00:26:44.000 This is second-hand information, but it makes sense.

00:26:46.000 Yeah, but you're a musician.

00:26:46.000 That makes sense to you, right?

00:26:47.000 It does totally make sense to me.

00:26:49.000 I mean, it's one of those subtleties that you may never think about, but then when you hear about it and you learn about it, it blows open a whole new way of thinking about things.

00:26:58.000 Well, I don't know this, but that's what everybody's always said about the dead and LSD. Exactly.

00:27:05.000 Yeah, that if you, like the people that don't get the dead, and I'm guilty of being one of those people.

00:27:10.000 Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but I respect them.

00:27:12.000 It's because you haven't listened on LSD. Apparently, according to people that I know, you listen to the dead on LSD and you're like, oh my god, I get it.

00:27:21.000 Oh, I see.

00:27:22.000 I see.

00:27:23.000 Interesting.

00:27:24.000 It's LSD music.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, totally.

00:27:27.000 My cousin used to follow them around.

00:27:30.000 Really?

00:27:30.000 She followed them around for, god, I want to say a couple years.

00:27:34.000 Where she was on tour, they would sell bacon and eggs out of the car.

00:27:37.000 She was a total hippie. 1.00

00:27:39.000 That's sick. 0.98

00:27:39.000 Like a real, super legit hippie. 0.98

00:27:41.000 That's kind of sick.

00:27:42.000 That's rare.

00:27:43.000 So I got to talk to her about the culture.

00:27:46.000 Everyone's on acid.

00:27:48.000 So many of them are doing acid.

00:27:50.000 Mushrooms, acid.

00:27:51.000 I want to say every one of them, but it's probably half, which is crazy for a concert.

00:27:57.000 Imagine going to a concert and half the people are doing mushrooms.

00:28:00.000 I know.

00:28:01.000 100% of the time, half the people.

00:28:03.000 I don't know if I'm...

00:28:03.000 Those are some pros, man.

00:28:05.000 I will say that.

00:28:05.000 If you're yelling at me right now, going, it's not half!

00:28:07.000 You don't know the number!

00:28:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:28:09.000 I'm just guessing.

00:28:10.000 I think it's psychedelic-inspired music that once you're under that psychedelic, apparently it makes sense.

00:28:17.000 And this is not me talking from personal experience.

00:28:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:20.000 I mean, it could be one of those things where...

00:28:22.000 There's a photo that's slightly out of focus.

00:28:25.000 And then if you bring in another...

00:28:27.000 Or better yet, a code.

00:28:29.000 It's like you get a picture of something and you're like, I can't tell what it is.

00:28:33.000 It's abstract.

00:28:33.000 And then you put this other layer on it and it completes it.

00:28:36.000 And you're like, oh, that's what it is.

00:28:38.000 In a way, I can imagine that being true.

00:28:41.000 But I can also say...

00:28:43.000 Once you've experienced music that really ignites your imagination, if you hear music that sounds amazing on LSD, it should also sound amazing to you, personally.

00:28:56.000 Not on it.

00:28:57.000 How you can tell that it would be even more amazing if you were on LSD, but it already sounds great.

00:29:03.000 It's like...

00:29:05.000 To me, quality is like it exists in all states.

00:29:08.000 So like it's just – anyways, that's kind of how I look at it.

00:29:13.000 It's an interesting perspective, but you would think – Definitely the people see things differently when they're under the influence of certain things.

00:29:22.000 Sure.

00:29:22.000 Absolutely.

00:29:22.000 You don't think there could be a tipping point?

00:29:24.000 Oh, I think you're right.

00:29:26.000 And to your point, yes.

00:29:27.000 I do think that there is music where you're like, I don't know, man.

00:29:31.000 And then you listen to it on mushrooms or whatever. 1.00

00:29:33.000 And you're like, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:29:35.000 This is dope. 1.00

00:29:35.000 I remember the first time I listened to Whole Lotta Love when I was high. 1.00

00:29:38.000 Yeah.

00:29:39.000 And you know that period? 0.99

00:29:40.000 There's a period in the middle of the song where it's all just thimbles and fuck music. 0.99

00:29:46.000 It's like, ah, ah, ah! 0.99

00:29:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:50.000 And then it comes...

00:29:50.000 Yes.

00:29:55.000 Goddamn, I love that song. 0.99

00:29:56.000 But when you listen to that song high, you're like, these guys were wild. 0.98

00:30:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:03.000 I mean, this is the 1970s, right?

00:30:05.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:30:05.000 And these guys made a song where it started off great, and then for a minute and a half, it was just moans and fuck sounds. 0.99

00:30:15.000 Chish, chish, chish. 1.00

00:30:16.000 Shake for me, baby.

00:30:17.000 I want to be your backdoor, man.

00:30:20.000 Hey! 0.99

00:30:21.000 Ho! 1.00

00:30:22.000 What?

00:30:23.000 I was looking up this LSD, Grateful Dead thing.

00:30:26.000 So their sound engineer, who went under the name Bear, which if you know anything about the Grateful Dead, they use the Bears.

00:30:32.000 He was one of the only scientists when LSD was outlawed that could still make it.

00:30:39.000 Wow.

00:30:39.000 That was the sound guy?

00:30:40.000 Yeah.

00:30:41.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:30:42.000 He made over 5 million doses between 65 and 67, it says.

00:30:47.000 Whoa.

00:30:48.000 Jesus Christ.

00:30:48.000 So they had their own personal guy, and he was the one that was making the sound.

00:30:51.000 If that guy's still alive, man, they would put him in jail for the rest of it.

00:30:55.000 Yeah, so they were strictly formatted for LSD. Right here says he died in a car accident.

00:30:58.000 Oh, in Australia.

00:31:00.000 That's probably on the wrong side of the road, because he was on acid.

00:31:03.000 That's quite possible.

00:31:04.000 Don't get mad. 1.00

00:31:05.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:31:06.000 He's my hero! 1.00

00:31:07.000 I just cracked a joke.

00:31:09.000 But that's amazing.

00:31:10.000 So they had their own built-in chemist.

00:31:12.000 God, that must have been a good time.

00:31:14.000 That's so cool.

00:31:15.000 I love that because that's responsible.

00:31:18.000 I think that that's the responsible thing to do.

00:31:20.000 To just know your own chemist.

00:31:21.000 That way you're not buying any nonsense.

00:31:24.000 You're getting it from a guy who's a chemist.

00:31:26.000 Yeah.

00:31:26.000 This is your person that personally makes this stuff for you.

00:31:29.000 You know where it comes from.

00:31:32.000 How many people got busted at those concerts?

00:31:35.000 Did Feds or the DEA ever crack down on those concerts?

00:31:39.000 You said you worked security at Amphitheater.

00:31:42.000 I did two for a summer, and one of the concerts we did was for Phil Leschies, the bass player of the Grateful Dead.

00:31:48.000 My job for that day was to walk around the parking lot, and they would just yell, me and my buddy were 19 years old, six up, six up.

00:31:54.000 They thought we were going to arrest everyone.

00:31:56.000 And they would try to give us the goo balls, which have a bunch of drugs in them already, to sort of dose us so that we'd leave everybody alone.

00:32:01.000 What's a goo ball?

00:32:03.000 It's like a popcorn ball, but from what I was told, I've never had one. 0.99

00:32:07.000 A bunch of psychedelics and all sorts of shit. 0.99

00:32:09.000 Oh, there's psychedelics in it? 0.99

00:32:10.000 Yeah, it's just like a thing you would eat.

00:32:12.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:32:12.000 Oh, I've never heard of that.

00:32:14.000 You didn't know what you were eating?

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:16.000 You just took a chance?

00:32:17.000 Oh, my God.

00:32:18.000 This gets you high.

00:32:19.000 Imagine the first guy.

00:32:21.000 Oh, high?

00:32:23.000 The first guy to stumble on mushrooms. 1.00

00:32:25.000 I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:32:27.000 Mushrooms had to have been relearned at some point in time. 0.99

00:32:30.000 There had to be some people that lived in an environment where there was no mushrooms, where people didn't get them, and then someone found them somewhere, but they didn't have any personal knowledge of what it was and tried it and ate it and tripped.

00:32:40.000 That had to have happened.

00:32:41.000 Yeah.

00:32:42.000 I mean, I think, you know, it could also be like, hey, I'm foraging for blah, blah, blahs.

00:32:48.000 And because, you know, arguably they would say mushrooms are around like way, way, way.

00:32:51.000 Some people, you know, not so scientific, perhaps, I don't know, or maybe scientific, have surmised that maybe consciousness or self-awareness came from our species running into some kind of a psychedelic event.

00:33:04.000 Yeah.

00:33:06.000 Hyper self-awareness loop or whatever.

00:33:08.000 You know why that one deserves a lot of attention?

00:33:10.000 Because people are so resistant to it.

00:33:13.000 Like really rational, intelligent people are so resistant to it.

00:33:16.000 And it's almost...

00:33:18.000 To resistant to what?

00:33:18.000 To that concept.

00:33:19.000 Oh, yes.

00:33:20.000 The concept that maybe our consciousness was somehow influenced by a psychedelic.

00:33:24.000 But to a man, almost to a man, all the...

00:33:28.000 I shouldn't say that even.

00:33:29.000 I'm overgeneralizing, but many of those people have not had psychedelic experiences that dismiss them so readily.

00:33:36.000 That's true.

00:33:36.000 The people that have had psychedelic experiences that tend to be skeptical or more rational, they're not going to have a definitive position on it.

00:33:43.000 They're going to go, well, hmm...

00:33:44.000 Yeah, right.

00:33:45.000 That's something to consider.

00:33:46.000 It's more measured.

00:33:47.000 Yeah.

00:33:47.000 But then there's the hardliners.

00:33:49.000 You know, there's the hardliners on both sides.

00:33:50.000 The hardliners who definitely believe that happened and the hardliners who believe that they don't have any positive effects whatsoever.

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

00:33:57.000 They're both almost equally foolish. 1.00

00:33:59.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:34:00.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what we're experiencing right now.

00:34:03.000 But at least the people that have experienced it, they know what they're talking about.

00:34:05.000 The people that haven't experienced it and don't think it's worth trying, like, all right.

00:34:09.000 Right.

00:34:10.000 Like, how do you know?

00:34:11.000 Yeah, I know.

00:34:12.000 If all these people are saying that it's amazing, and that it might be literally the source of religion itself, and so many people, when they've had it, they have these complete life changes, where they just rethink things and want to be kinder to people and nicer to people and want to just have more of a sense of community.

00:34:26.000 Yeah.

00:34:26.000 And then people dismiss that.

00:34:28.000 But yet they'll take...

00:34:29.000 Yoga seriously and meditation seriously.

00:34:32.000 And they'll go to a therapist all the time.

00:34:34.000 And maybe they'll even get on antidepressants.

00:34:36.000 Maybe they'll get on a little bit of Xanax.

00:34:37.000 I'm having a little anxiety issues, Reggie Watson.

00:34:39.000 And then they're scared of mushrooms.

00:34:41.000 It's weird.

00:34:43.000 Very interesting.

00:34:44.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 I mean, I get it.

00:34:45.000 I get it.

00:34:47.000 I don't know.

00:34:48.000 Oh, I get it, but it's a flaw.

00:34:49.000 Yeah, it is a flaw.

00:34:50.000 I mean, I guess if your job is to take in as many angles as possible to a problem or a situation or a concern or whatever, weigh all of the things about all of it and then come up with a solution based off of that.

00:35:06.000 And this isn't even encouraging anyone to do it, but this is just saying to dismiss it as being not important when you've never done it is nonsense.

00:35:12.000 Yeah.

00:35:13.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:35:14.000 That's all I'm saying.

00:35:14.000 It's like, I'm not saying you should do it.

00:35:16.000 I don't think...

00:35:16.000 I know a lot of people that birth to grave have done no psychedelics, and they're great, and they're wonderful people, and they have a great life, and they had a wonderful experience.

00:35:23.000 It's not a prerequisite.

00:35:25.000 It's not a necessary thing.

00:35:27.000 No.

00:35:27.000 I don't agree with that.

00:35:28.000 But if you haven't had it, you might want to shut the fuck up. 0.99

00:35:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:35:31.000 If you're speaking on the issue of it, yeah, of course. 0.99

00:35:35.000 Are you kidding? 0.99

00:35:35.000 You might want to shut the fuck up. 0.99

00:35:36.000 And I was like, well, the research shows... 0.99

00:35:38.000 Oh, you're going to let the research show you what the experience is?

00:35:41.000 Let me tell you about the research...

00:35:42.000 Five dried grams in silent darkness, as Terrence McCrenum would describe and prescribe.

00:35:47.000 Yeah, do that.

00:35:48.000 Oh my gosh.

00:35:49.000 Do that, and then we'll talk.

00:35:51.000 Yeah.

00:35:52.000 You know?

00:35:52.000 Just have one quick DMT trip, and then we'll talk.

00:35:55.000 Because there's no way—I think it would be difficult.

00:35:57.000 I'm sure there's someone who has done psychedelics and still says no.

00:36:01.000 Sure.

00:36:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:02.000 But I would say that most people, they would understand at least—maybe they didn't have a great time, but they would at least understand— The power of that experience.

00:36:15.000 I think some people have the burden of intelligence. 0.96

00:36:19.000 And what I mean by that is that they're really smart and they see a lot of people around them that are silly.

00:36:24.000 And they experience that so often that they get weary and they get rigid in their belief that their opinions are correct because they dismiss most of the people that are around them. 0.97

00:36:37.000 Because you're around a bunch of dummies if you're a really smart guy or a smart girl. 0.98

00:36:41.000 It's hard. 0.61

00:36:41.000 It's hard to maintain a good perception of what things are and what things aren't when you're the smartest person in the room. 0.61

00:36:48.000 You kind of never want to be the smartest person in the room.

00:36:51.000 Yeah.

00:36:52.000 And also, yes, and also believing that you are, in a way, excludes you from including other people who are also smarter than everybody in the room.

00:37:03.000 Well, maybe not even smarter.

00:37:05.000 But I know what you're saying.

00:37:05.000 They're not limited by an ideology.

00:37:07.000 Their perspective isn't dimmed.

00:37:09.000 Right.

00:37:10.000 Yes.

00:37:10.000 They see things clearly, which is, I think, one of the most underrated forms of intelligence.

00:37:14.000 Like, there's all this intelligence in solving mathematical problems and social intelligence, but there's a bunch of different kinds of intelligence.

00:37:22.000 Absolutely. 0.94

00:37:23.000 Being able to see through the bullshit is an intelligence, and some people just don't have it. 0.99

00:37:27.000 Yeah, no, absolutely. 0.97

00:37:28.000 And I think that, you know, at the same time, wanting to help someone see that angle is also an important thing.

00:37:35.000 So if you're someone who's like, oh shit, let's say it's this, maybe you're trained in tactical awareness and you just have a different way of being in a room where you sit, what you think about, all that stuff.

00:37:49.000 And a situation arises where you're like, And potentially something dangerous could happen or whatever. 0.97

00:37:55.000 Then being able to explain that idea and that type of awareness so that someone can see that is also possible.

00:38:02.000 Like sharing it, they may not get it to the extent that you do, but they at least you've included it in their viewpoint.

00:38:08.000 Yeah.

00:38:09.000 Yeah, maybe.

00:38:10.000 Well, people that are soldiers, they do have a weird way of entering the room.

00:38:13.000 My friend Andy Stumpf, he's always sneaking up on me.

00:38:17.000 He says, you got no situational awareness.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:20.000 I'm like, we're in a crowd.

00:38:21.000 What am I supposed to do?

00:38:22.000 Just constantly on 360 looking for danger?

00:38:26.000 That's so crazy.

00:38:27.000 I mean, yeah, that's what he's saying.

00:38:30.000 Yeah, that is what he's saying.

00:38:31.000 That is what he's saying.

00:38:33.000 But that's because he's a seal.

00:38:35.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 That's how they look at things a whole lot different.

00:38:38.000 That's how you stay alive.

00:38:40.000 Exactly.

00:38:41.000 Yeah.

00:38:41.000 I think one of the things that's super important for people to recognize and helps them open their mind up to other opinions is that even if they favor themselves very highly, that competitive thing of comparing your intellect and your reason to other people, it's very limiting.

00:38:56.000 Instead of worrying about yourself, if you're smart, just be smart.

00:38:59.000 But just appreciate other intelligences.

00:39:02.000 Just get into talking to them.

00:39:04.000 That's my thoughts on it.

00:39:06.000 Instead of being competitive with them, get into trying to find out how they work.

00:39:10.000 Because there's a lot of different humans on this planet.

00:39:12.000 And we have this egocentric position, almost everybody does, that they're at least better at one thing than other people are.

00:39:19.000 Or they know some more about one thing than other people do.

00:39:21.000 And it's a weird competitive thing that people get involved in. 1.00

00:39:23.000 It's stupid. 0.99

00:39:25.000 You should recognize that it's awesome to have cool people around you that are really smart and interested in weird shit and intelligent and inspiring. 1.00

00:39:36.000 You almost envy their creativity.

00:39:38.000 Those are massively important people to have in your life.

00:39:42.000 But when people get – they feel weird about comparing themselves to the other person because they come up unfavorably.

00:39:48.000 That's insane.

00:39:50.000 Exactly.

00:39:50.000 You see that with a lot of guys.

00:39:52.000 Guys puff up chests and start comparing how much their houses cost.

00:39:57.000 Like literally doing stuff that you're like, oh, we're still doing this? 0.96

00:40:01.000 To my mind, I'm like, oh shit, you guys aren't aware of it like a way that I... But anyways, yeah. 0.88

00:40:08.000 That kind of thing. 0.99

00:40:09.000 You guys are doing some 1990s shit here. 0.99

00:40:11.000 Yeah, because it's like... 0.98

00:40:12.000 I know, because either they're doing an act, which I'm always hoping...

00:40:19.000 I'm always hoping.

00:40:20.000 That's why there's disbelief when it really is what it is. 1.00

00:40:23.000 I'm like, oh shit. 0.99

00:40:24.000 Oh, that's for real. 0.99

00:40:25.000 That's actually the thing.

00:40:26.000 It's weird, right?

00:40:27.000 Yeah, it's a little weird.

00:40:29.000 Some people have a lack of cool people around them, too.

00:40:32.000 That's a real problem. 1.00

00:40:33.000 You get stuck in a shit. 1.00

00:40:34.000 It's like a good tomato plant is not going to grow in the fucking Sonora Desert. 1.00

00:40:40.000 There's no nutrients there. 0.99

00:40:42.000 It's too bright.

00:40:43.000 The sun's too hot.

00:40:45.000 It's not the right climate.

00:40:46.000 Yeah.

00:40:46.000 Right?

00:40:46.000 If you're stuck in some fucking shithole city and it's just your whole neighborhood's filled with dummies and there's no prospects and there's fucking lead in the water, you got Flint, Michigan water you're drinking,

00:41:02.000 they still haven't fixed that. 1.00

00:41:03.000 No.

00:41:04.000 People have to drink bottled water in Flint, Michigan.

00:41:06.000 Yeah.

00:41:06.000 In 2019. Yep.

00:41:09.000 How did they let that ever get to that point?

00:41:13.000 Like, out of all the things you need.

00:41:14.000 Well, what do we need to stay alive?

00:41:16.000 Number one, water.

00:41:17.000 Okay, let's ignore that.

00:41:18.000 Let's ignore that and work on the cracks in the streets. 0.98

00:41:21.000 Let's ignore that and have new traffic lights that have cameras on them to bust you so we can get more revenue.

00:41:28.000 Let's make sure we hire parking tenants. 1.00

00:41:29.000 What about the water?

00:41:30.000 We can get to that.

00:41:31.000 We'll get to that water.

00:41:32.000 Yeah.

00:41:32.000 Well, it's my new phrase for our situation, because capitalism.

00:41:38.000 Because the current version of capitalism.

00:41:41.000 Is it capitalism?

00:41:42.000 I don't even know enough about economics.

00:41:46.000 I mean, it's more just like a philosophical idea.

00:41:50.000 Right, but can you have capitalism with regulation so that you make sure that there's no pollution?

00:41:55.000 You make sure that people don't get away with environmental disasters?

00:41:58.000 Yes, of course. 0.79

00:41:59.000 And aren't we also going on the fucking momentum of decisions that were made a long time ago? 0.59

00:42:04.000 Like a lot of this stuff, like a lot of these mines that pollute everywhere, pollute environments, wherever they are, they kind of made those when environmental laws were different, right? 0.79

00:42:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:42:18.000 I mean, environmentalism wasn't really a thing until the mid-1900s, I guess.

00:42:26.000 Roosevelt was a huge environmental groovy dude.

00:42:31.000 But the idea of preserving swaths of land and considering the environment when growing an economy simultaneously, that just stopped. 0.84

00:42:40.000 Like there's like some national parks stuff and maybe some things pass with like ozone, some lead stuff, some mercury stuff, you know, kind of common sense, really hardcore shit that should definitely – like no brainers.

00:42:54.000 Those have been done.

00:42:55.000 But anything else, making sure that that balance is there as the economy grows just doesn't exist.

00:43:01.000 It's just the way capitalism is right now.

00:43:04.000 It's like it doesn't – that's not considered a value.

00:43:07.000 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 In fact, the more scarce it becomes, the higher in value it is.

00:43:12.000 So it's in its own best interest to continue to grow and grow and grow until it can't grow anymore.

00:43:18.000 Jesus.

00:43:19.000 You freak me out, man.

00:43:21.000 So that's why decisions like that are made, in my mind.

00:43:25.000 Well, decisions that impact the wilderness and impact the environment.

00:43:29.000 Like, did you ever see that movie Gasland?

00:43:31.000 No.

00:43:32.000 Great documentary on fracking.

00:43:34.000 Oh, wow.

00:43:36.000 It's really crazy.

00:43:37.000 What is the director's name?

00:43:39.000 Josh Fox?

00:43:41.000 Brolin.

00:43:42.000 No.

00:43:42.000 Are you sure?

00:43:43.000 It's a different guy, bro.

00:43:44.000 No, there's no way.

00:43:45.000 No, it's a different guy.

00:43:46.000 There's no way.

00:43:47.000 But it's an amazing documentary.

00:43:49.000 Josh Fox.

00:43:50.000 Josh Fox.

00:43:51.000 I got it.

00:43:52.000 Josh Fox.

00:43:52.000 It's a really good documentary.

00:43:55.000 Who is Josh Fox?

00:43:56.000 He's a guy who made the film.

00:43:58.000 Yeah.

00:43:58.000 He was inspired by a personal experience with, wasn't it?

00:44:05.000 Do you remember the actual story, Jamie?

00:44:07.000 It's like personal experience with some pollutants or something like that in the river.

00:44:12.000 But got into it anyway, made this amazing documentary.

00:44:14.000 And watching people dismiss some of the stuff in the documentary was so surreal.

00:44:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:19.000 They were lighting their tap water on fire.

00:44:22.000 And I don't know if you saw that.

00:44:24.000 I did see that, yeah.

00:44:25.000 That's crazy.

00:44:26.000 People literally were saying, you could do that before the fracking.

00:44:29.000 It's not because of the fracking.

00:44:32.000 Wow.

00:44:32.000 People were saying that.

00:44:33.000 Like, okay, let's assume that's true.

00:44:35.000 Let's just get crazy and assume that's true. 1.00

00:44:37.000 Their fucking water is on fire! 1.00

00:44:39.000 That's the last shit that should be on fire, is the shit they use to put out fire. 1.00

00:44:43.000 If your goddamn water's on fire, do you know how much shit has to be in your water for it to be on fire? 1.00

00:44:49.000 Okay, what's going on here? 1.00

00:44:50.000 And why are you so sure that this didn't come from fracking?

00:44:53.000 And that you could always light your water on fire, and now you're telling us?

00:44:57.000 Like, you didn't make videos about this before?

00:44:59.000 Before there was a fracking thing?

00:45:00.000 Yeah, show me a video that has that.

00:45:01.000 Let me see.

00:45:02.000 Are you sure?

00:45:03.000 That would be interesting.

00:45:04.000 Are you really sure that there's...

00:45:05.000 Have you tested the water? 1.00

00:45:06.000 Are you a fucking scientist? 1.00

00:45:07.000 Are you sitting over there with a lab coat and a fucking check sheet? 1.00

00:45:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:10.000 Making sure that the toxin levels are exactly the same before and after fracking?

00:45:13.000 No, you're not.

00:45:14.000 But why are you so interested?

00:45:16.000 There's a thing that people do where they're like really interested in the interests of big business.

00:45:20.000 And they want to like...

00:45:21.000 Yes.

00:45:22.000 And regular people.

00:45:23.000 Who don't even have a financial stake in that business will make up excuses for the business.

00:45:28.000 I know.

00:45:28.000 It's crazy.

00:45:29.000 What is that?

00:45:30.000 It's fear.

00:45:32.000 Just fear of losing jobs.

00:45:34.000 People losing jobs or losing the thing that keeps their bills paid.

00:45:39.000 It's also like that no-nonsense right-wing mindset.

00:45:42.000 There's like a no-nonsense right-wing mindset. 1.00

00:45:45.000 Oh, these fucking tree-hungers. 1.00

00:45:46.000 Goddamn tree-huggers. 1.00

00:45:47.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:45:48.000 Trying to stop us from making a good living.

00:45:49.000 You want those people to be poor? 0.99

00:45:50.000 You ever see the look on a poor coal miner's face? 0.82

00:45:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:54.000 You know what I mean?

00:45:54.000 There's that thing that they do.

00:45:56.000 Yes.

00:45:56.000 That no-nonsense.

00:45:57.000 So they want to go with anything that's good for the economy, but bad for the environment.

00:46:02.000 Exactly.

00:46:02.000 Which is crazy.

00:46:03.000 It's totally crazy.

00:46:05.000 You have to factor in the additional cost.

00:46:07.000 How much can it cost to fix what you did?

00:46:09.000 And if you ever can fix what you did, and if you can't fix what you did to the environment, how much should that cost? 0.90

00:46:15.000 Because if you decide, like, hey, I'm going to pull copper out of this fucking hole in the ground, but it might kill a million salmon.

00:46:23.000 Like, can you imagine how much a million salmon would be worth? 0.99

00:46:26.000 You're going to kill a whole population of salmon?

00:46:28.000 How much is that worth?

00:46:29.000 Like, you ruin fishing for all the people that want to come to this one salmon river.

00:46:34.000 You kill a million fish.

00:46:35.000 Like, how much is that worth?

00:46:36.000 That should be worth a billion dollars.

00:46:39.000 You should get fined a billion dollars, if not more.

00:46:41.000 You can't even fix that.

00:46:43.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:46:44.000 That value, it has no value.

00:46:47.000 Well, the thing is, also, it's ours.

00:46:49.000 I know.

00:46:50.000 Poisoning is our stuff.

00:46:52.000 I know.

00:46:52.000 That's what I mean.

00:46:52.000 It's the earth.

00:46:53.000 It's just the worst because it's not a part of the equation for growing the economy. 1.00

00:47:00.000 And I know there's going to be people listening that just know about this shit. 0.99

00:47:04.000 Hardcore. 0.99

00:47:04.000 I'm just approaching it from an over-philosophical, energetic viewpoint. 0.99

00:47:09.000 Right, right.

00:47:09.000 We're being hippies.

00:47:10.000 Yeah, we're being weirdo, hippie-ish. 0.70

00:47:12.000 We're stoned. 0.99

00:47:13.000 We don't even know what the fuck we're saying. 0.99

00:47:14.000 We're stonzers. 0.98

00:47:16.000 Have you ever seen some of the image of the mining that they do, the images of the mining they do in northern Canada, like northern Alberta?

00:47:24.000 No.

00:47:24.000 Dude.

00:47:26.000 It's like some hellscape shit. 1.00

00:47:28.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:47:30.000 There's a giant industry of oil mining up there, and there's all kinds of mining in northern Canada.

00:47:36.000 A lot of folks that go up there and they do shifts, but I mean, you're talking unbelievably, brutally, ruthlessly cold.

00:47:42.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 Wow.

00:48:06.000 Wow, man.

00:48:07.000 There's one of them.

00:48:08.000 The one that I saw was much more horrific because it involved a lake.

00:48:11.000 So what does it say?

00:48:12.000 Photos.

00:48:12.000 Fame photographer Alex McLean's new photo of Canada's oil sands are shocking.

00:48:16.000 Yeah.

00:48:18.000 I mean, it's creepy.

00:48:19.000 I mean, but there was nothing there anyway. 0.98

00:48:21.000 The idea is like, hey, if it's just flat like that or it's ugly because we have holes in it and oils coming out of the holes, who gives a shit? 0.96

00:48:27.000 No one's up here. 0.97

00:48:28.000 Right.

00:48:29.000 I get it.

00:48:29.000 I get that mindset.

00:48:31.000 We got jobs.

00:48:31.000 Everyone has jobs.

00:48:32.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:48:33.000 It's a great job to have.

00:48:34.000 They make a lot of money.

00:48:36.000 You meet those dudes that come to a lot of shows when you do in Canada.

00:48:39.000 They have a name for them.

00:48:41.000 Like, really rich oil worker fellows.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, it's real rich oil worker fellows.

00:48:48.000 That is the nickname.

00:48:50.000 That's one that I saw. 1.00

00:48:51.000 When you see the water all fucked up, it's all filled with oil and shit. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Oh my lords. 1.00

00:48:56.000 Yeah.

00:48:56.000 That's the water, man.

00:48:59.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:49:00.000 The water's fucked. 1.00

00:49:01.000 Wow. 1.00

00:49:02.000 Yeah, it's funny.

00:49:05.000 All of the issues, all of the imbalances are completely solvable.

00:49:10.000 There is no deficit.

00:49:11.000 We don't have a deficit in what it would take to just make good decisions that make life really nice for most people on the planet.

00:49:21.000 Yeah.

00:49:22.000 I think a lot of managing has to be done because there's a lot of stuff that has unintended consequences and moving pieces affect all the moving pieces around them.

00:49:31.000 Of course.

00:49:31.000 I think that's one of the things that people are really bad at predicting.

00:49:34.000 That's why I was saying, like, you know, how much is it worth to be able to get copper out of a hole in the ground if it's going to poison a river and kill a bunch of fish?

00:49:42.000 How much is that worth?

00:49:43.000 Yeah.

00:49:44.000 You know, it's like these people have this sense that Like, you make one decision and it only affects that thing.

00:49:52.000 But it doesn't.

00:49:53.000 It affects a lot of things that are connected to that thing.

00:49:56.000 It also affects the way people feel. 0.90

00:49:58.000 If you do something shitty like kill a million fish, people get bummed out. 0.97

00:50:02.000 Like, that's real. 0.98

00:50:03.000 It affects the way they interact with other people. 0.99

00:50:05.000 You know, when you read something really fucked up on the news, you're like, God damn it. 0.99

00:50:09.000 And so you leave your house like that. 1.00

00:50:11.000 You leave your house like, God damn it. 0.99

00:50:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:13.000 Two people that have that God damn it, and then they get upset at each other for something they wouldn't before. 0.92

00:50:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:18.000 Because they're just thinking there's a bunch of pedophiles out there, and a bunch of monsters, and a bunch of murderers, and a bunch of people pouring oil into the ocean. 0.99

00:50:25.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:50:25.000 I know. 0.96

00:50:26.000 It's a bummer.

00:50:27.000 It changes... 0.90

00:50:27.000 When people do fucked up things, it changes how we feel about people. 0.90

00:50:32.000 100%. 0.91

00:50:32.000 And I don't know. 0.91

00:50:34.000 I get...

00:50:36.000 I don't know.

00:50:37.000 I try not to get overwhelmed by those things, but it's like really the best thing, at least in my life, that I try to do is make friends with as many technologists and designers and people of that ilk to be able to at least be a part of the conversation.

00:50:52.000 Because they're like at the head of the wave.

00:50:55.000 There's nothing really in front of them.

00:50:56.000 They're just on that bleeding edge or whatever.

00:50:59.000 But it's just like the place where...

00:51:02.000 Chaos is being ordered and the decisions are being made which ways we're going to do that.

00:51:07.000 And if you can have good conversations with people like that, you can kind of, I believe, you can kind of help steer things, at least technologically, to allocate funds to different portions of technology that should be more prioritized than they are.

00:51:22.000 Yeah.

00:51:24.000 Just figuring out things like accumulating water out of the air.

00:51:29.000 More of that should be used.

00:51:32.000 Reducing carbon emissions.

00:51:33.000 All the various things you can do for that.

00:51:36.000 Try to close that gap between the ultra, ultra, ultra, ultra rich and the poor.

00:51:41.000 Everyone can still be super happy.

00:51:43.000 If everyone had access to be able to level up To a point that's ridiculous, that can still happen, but not at the levels that they are.

00:51:51.000 Well, isn't that interesting that instinct that people have to resist that idea that poor people shouldn't be somehow or another, we should engineer a way to have less poor people.

00:52:00.000 That we should consider it as a problem.

00:52:02.000 But people get really resistant to that, right?

00:52:04.000 You start thinking, oh, no, no.

00:52:05.000 What do you want to do? 1.00

00:52:06.000 You want to take my fucking money and give it to someone else? 1.00

00:52:09.000 No! 1.00

00:52:10.000 Taking my money! 1.00

00:52:11.000 Fucking socialists! 1.00

00:52:13.000 Taking my money! 1.00

00:52:14.000 Yeah, it's like, well, he didn't work for it, so he didn't find the right way to work inside of the system, so he's a failure.

00:52:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:52:20.000 I don't think they're right.

00:52:21.000 I don't think they're wrong about the whole concept of not giving people money doesn't solve a problem.

00:52:27.000 No.

00:52:27.000 It doesn't solve a problem.

00:52:28.000 But recognizing that it's a problem and engineering it so that we have a better society where more people are doing good, that's great for everybody.

00:52:38.000 Totally.

00:52:38.000 It's great for the economy.

00:52:39.000 It's a weird caste system thing where people who are really poor, you almost want them to stay really poor.

00:52:44.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 I don't get it.

00:52:46.000 It's a weird thing.

00:52:46.000 I don't get it.

00:52:47.000 Because I feel uncomfortable.

00:52:48.000 If I'm in a room of people and I feel like someone's being kind of just looked over consistently, that's the person I'm going to engage with the most.

00:52:58.000 Well, you're a great guy.

00:52:59.000 That's awesome.

00:53:00.000 But you are.

00:53:01.000 I mean, that's a good way of looking at it.

00:53:03.000 I mean, because it's – and also it's just like, well, thanks, but it's also just a practical thing, right?

00:53:08.000 I mean, if you're sensitive to this, if that's part of your value system, is to feel like, you know, not everybody should be doing this or this or that or that, but everybody's entitled to be recognized and respected for that.

00:53:19.000 And so that's kind of a cool place to operate from.

00:53:22.000 But I guess what I'm relating to economically is Yeah, if more people are doing well, then you have a very productive society.

00:53:29.000 So there are no drags on it.

00:53:31.000 There's a lot dragging this economy.

00:53:34.000 Sure.

00:53:34.000 It's just like...

00:53:35.000 Yeah, crime and poverty.

00:53:37.000 It's just getting gummed up.

00:53:38.000 Drug addicts.

00:53:39.000 Yeah.

00:53:39.000 And a lot of drug addicts come from abuse.

00:53:42.000 Yes.

00:53:42.000 A lot of abuse comes from poverty.

00:53:44.000 There's a lot of those factors that play in there that make us a weaker country.

00:53:48.000 That's why I tell people, if you're really patriotic, you'd want to fix all of the impoverished neighborhoods.

00:53:53.000 Yes.

00:53:53.000 If we're a team, the team is stronger when there's less losers, right?

00:53:57.000 Totally.

00:53:57.000 When people are not losing in life.

00:53:59.000 Well, people are losing because they're stuck in a spot where they can almost never get out, and by the time they're 18, they've already been in jail twice, and they're kind of programmed by their environment to be hostile because the world around you is harsh and nasty and doesn't give a fuck about you. 0.56

00:54:12.000 Well, you have to adapt to survive. 0.60

00:54:15.000 I mean, that's how people are able to kill people in war.

00:54:17.000 People have a remarkable ability to adapt.

00:54:19.000 Yes.

00:54:19.000 But the idea that they should be able to figure that out When you didn't have...

00:54:23.000 That's crazy!

00:54:24.000 That's crazy!

00:54:25.000 It's such a bad hand!

00:54:28.000 They have the worst hand of cards ever!

00:54:31.000 Yeah.

00:54:31.000 And they're us.

00:54:32.000 We're all on a team.

00:54:33.000 Like, if you really say you're American, I'm American, man. 0.99

00:54:35.000 I don't fucking support this country. 0.99

00:54:37.000 This country's everybody, man. 0.99

00:54:38.000 Yeah.

00:54:39.000 Everybody.

00:54:40.000 I agree.

00:54:40.000 Everybody.

00:54:41.000 Forget it.

00:54:41.000 Let's leave just for convenience sake.

00:54:43.000 Let's leave out illegals. 1.00

00:54:45.000 Yep.

00:54:45.000 And only say the poor people that were born here that are registered United States citizens.

00:54:49.000 We got work to do.

00:54:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:51.000 We got work to do.

00:54:53.000 It's just insane to me. 1.00

00:54:55.000 I mean, I see it and I'm like, oh, fuck, man. 0.99

00:54:57.000 That shouldn't be a thing. 0.99

00:54:58.000 No.

00:54:59.000 But I see...

00:55:00.000 Why?

00:55:01.000 You know, it's like you're talking about.

00:55:02.000 There's this weird biological human instinct to create a tiered system of society because that's the way you control society.

00:55:09.000 It's like creating a transmission.

00:55:11.000 It's like a social transmission.

00:55:13.000 And, like, that is...

00:55:15.000 That's an interesting way of looking at it.

00:55:17.000 Yeah, because it's like that way you can manipulate.

00:55:19.000 You can like switch gears and you can play them off of one another.

00:55:23.000 And, you know, and I think like... 0.99

00:55:25.000 That's some conspiracy thinking shit right there, bro. 0.99

00:55:28.000 You just went deep. 1.00

00:55:29.000 Playing them off against each other.

00:55:31.000 I'm like, well, is he right?

00:55:32.000 Is he right or is it convenient?

00:55:34.000 Is it just convenient that people want to keep – it's crabs in a bucket, you know, that expression.

00:55:39.000 Crabs never get out of the bucket because the other crabs grab them and drag them down. 1.00

00:55:42.000 Yeah, yeah, it's true.

00:55:43.000 I mean, it's predicting human behavior, you know, to a certain extent.

00:55:47.000 It's a lot of that leftover monkey stuff.

00:55:49.000 Yeah, man.

00:55:50.000 It's the...

00:55:51.000 It's not...

00:55:52.000 It's just...

00:55:53.000 It's still here.

00:55:54.000 And it's fucking shit up. 1.00

00:55:55.000 Well, we also needed it just a hundred years ago. 1.00

00:55:58.000 Totally.

00:55:58.000 Yeah.

00:55:59.000 People were doing duels when they were...

00:56:01.000 The president was doing duels just a couple hundred years ago.

00:56:04.000 Yeah, you're right. 0.99

00:56:05.000 That shit is so recent. 0.99

00:56:06.000 You're right. 1.00

00:56:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:07.000 Barbaric shit, man. 1.00

00:56:09.000 Shooting each other with little mini muskets in the fucking street in front of everybody. 1.00

00:56:13.000 And you were the president. 1.00

00:56:15.000 Is that true?

00:56:15.000 Was there a president that got in a duel?

00:56:17.000 That is true, right?

00:56:18.000 I think you're right.

00:56:18.000 We looked it up.

00:56:19.000 It was Andrew Jackson got in like over 100 duels, I think, but the duels weren't like that duel type thing.

00:56:24.000 It was really just like a challenge to see if you would show up, really, and then like...

00:56:28.000 Oh, they talked about it?

00:56:29.000 It wasn't really like always like someone died at every single one.

00:56:31.000 Did he shoot anybody?

00:56:32.000 He did, but I think only like one person.

00:56:34.000 Oh.

00:56:34.000 Oh, because usually they didn't...

00:56:35.000 They have a crazy story about it.

00:56:37.000 They don't aim at each other.

00:56:38.000 That's why I heard that there was like, you kind of like aim near them.

00:56:42.000 Really?

00:56:42.000 Something like that.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, and that was a way to concede.

00:56:44.000 In one duel, he got shot, I think, in the chest, but he was such a badass, he stayed.

00:56:50.000 He put his hand over it and held it, because his gun jammed when he was supposed to fire, so the other guy got him, and then he fixed his gun, shot the guy in the head, and that guy ended up dying.

00:56:59.000 I'm pretty sure that's how the one guy he killed. 0.96

00:57:02.000 You have a real motivation to kill a guy when he shoots you in the chest. 1.00

00:57:07.000 That shit became real. 1.00

00:57:08.000 Yeah, you're like, eliminate threat now. 1.00

00:57:09.000 This becomes real.

00:57:11.000 And the guy just has to stand there.

00:57:12.000 He can't even run away.

00:57:13.000 How goofy is that? 0.99

00:57:14.000 You have to stand there and let a dude shoot you. 1.00

00:57:16.000 That's part of the deal, right? 0.64

00:57:17.000 I don't think you can turn around and go, oh my god, help! 1.00

00:57:21.000 You can't be like, I went, bitch, and just run. 1.00

00:57:23.000 I'm out of here! 1.00

00:57:24.000 You have to kind of stand there.

00:57:26.000 There's a guy named Charles Dickinson, not the writer, but a horse, a rival horse breeder.

00:57:31.000 And here's the account of their goal.

00:57:34.000 Oh my god.

00:57:34.000 Okay, here it goes.

00:57:35.000 On May 30th, 1806, Jackson and Dickinson met at Harrison's Mills on the Red River in Logan, Kentucky.

00:57:51.000 We're good to go.

00:58:00.000 But in a breach of etiquette, Jackson re-cocked the gun and shot again, this time killing his opponent.

00:58:07.000 Although Jackson recovered, he suffered chronic pain from the wound for the remainder of his life.

00:58:12.000 Ugh. 1.00

00:58:12.000 Damn. 1.00

00:58:14.000 Jackson was not prosecuted for murder, and the duel had very little effect on his successful campaign for the presidency in 1829. Many American men in the early 1800s, particularly in the South, viewed dueling as a time-honored tradition. 0.93

00:58:27.000 Ha ha! 0.86

00:58:28.000 Wow.

00:58:28.000 Dude, that was just a couple hundred years ago.

00:58:30.000 We were barbarians.

00:58:31.000 They're like, well, sometimes you just gotta do it.

00:58:34.000 That is a time-honored tradition. 1.00

00:58:35.000 200 years ago, people were so goddamn crazy that you could shoot someone in the fucking face in a duel, a street fight, and then run for president and win. 1.00

00:58:43.000 Yeah, it's consensual. 1.00

00:58:45.000 I mean, there are versions of that now.

00:58:46.000 That's amazing.

00:58:47.000 But yeah.

00:58:48.000 His divorce raised more of a scandal than him killing that guy.

00:58:53.000 Wow.

00:58:54.000 How is that possible?

00:58:55.000 Wow.

00:58:56.000 I mean, again, priorities.

00:58:58.000 Different societies.

00:58:59.000 Yeah, what was gossip like back then?

00:59:00.000 Gossip magazines didn't have hand-printed newspaper with gossip in it that they would hand out? 0.85

00:59:07.000 Yeah.

00:59:07.000 Why would his divorce become a big deal?

00:59:10.000 They had the printing press back then, right?

00:59:12.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

00:59:14.000 The United States got theirs in 1856. Like everyone had to buy into it.

00:59:20.000 People were so goofy. 0.96

00:59:21.000 Just a couple hundred years ago, they were so goofy.

00:59:24.000 I mean, that's one of the best examples of a difference and a shift in culture.

00:59:29.000 Imagine hearing that today.

00:59:30.000 Imagine hearing that we had slid so far down that Trump and Putin were engaging in a duel, and they were going to go back to back, and Trump cheated and shot him.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, I wonder who would cheat who.

00:59:42.000 Well, if that happened, if Trump took a bullet, but his gun misfired, and then he re-cocked it and fired again.

00:59:47.000 Oh, that would be a Trump thing to do.

00:59:48.000 But that's what he did.

00:59:49.000 That's what Jackson did.

00:59:50.000 Oh my gosh.

00:59:51.000 Was it Jackson?

00:59:52.000 Yeah.

00:59:53.000 Yes.

00:59:54.000 Okay, so he married Rachel Jackson, who, this is part of the duel because the guy who killed Dickinson had publicly called her a bigamist because she married Jackson not knowing her first husband had not finalized the divorce or something like that, so that was a bigger scandal that he was married to some already married woman.

01:00:13.000 Oh! 1.00

01:00:13.000 And that got outed, so he's like, fuck you, I'm gonna kill you. 1.00

01:00:16.000 Oh my goodness. 1.00

01:00:18.000 Wow.

01:00:18.000 So he challenged him to a duel because of that.

01:00:22.000 Jackson challenged him to a duel?

01:00:23.000 Yeah.

01:00:24.000 And a reneged horse bet, he said.

01:00:26.000 Oh my god.

01:00:27.000 A horse bet.

01:00:28.000 Oh, you can't cheat on horse betting.

01:00:30.000 Those are two big things, man.

01:00:32.000 Don't say a man's wife is a bigamist. 1.00

01:00:36.000 That's what they're shooting people over. 1.00

01:00:38.000 Fucking horse bets and shit. 1.00

01:00:40.000 Yeah, those are barbarian people. 1.00

01:00:43.000 And that's our ancestors, just 200 years ago.

01:00:46.000 It's like very civil.

01:00:47.000 Civil barbarianism.

01:00:49.000 Civil barbarianism.

01:00:50.000 It's like, well, we're barbarians, but there are rules.

01:00:52.000 Well, that's one of the more hilarious stories of the Revolutionary War, right? 0.98

01:00:55.000 The way the British soldiers dressed was so silly. 1.00

01:00:58.000 They literally put a target on their fucking chest. 1.00

01:01:02.000 They made their vitals lighter. 1.00

01:01:05.000 You shoot guns.

01:01:07.000 If you can see things clearly, it makes a much more viable target.

01:01:12.000 Period.

01:01:13.000 And you're talking about people that didn't have any sights on their guns.

01:01:17.000 In terms of optics, obviously.

01:01:20.000 They had little machined sights, little metal sights. 1.00

01:01:23.000 But the way these guys walk towards them, especially the ones with the X's on the chest, that shit is so ridiculous. 1.00

01:01:29.000 They're walking bullseyes. 1.00

01:01:30.000 It's the dumbest thing. 1.00

01:01:31.000 Wow. 1.00

01:01:32.000 And the only thing that makes sense to me is that they had just had it easy for too long.

01:01:37.000 Not even easy, but they were in control for too long. 0.97

01:01:40.000 They got a little silly. 0.97

01:01:42.000 They forgot how barbaric people can be. 0.98

01:01:44.000 Well, they're thinking about fashion.

01:01:46.000 Well, that's the weirdest fashion, right?

01:01:48.000 That was what they used for wartime?

01:01:52.000 That's like they're professionals.

01:01:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:55.000 Soldiers looked a little bit more like, hey guys, we're professional soldiers and we're... 0.98

01:02:00.000 It doesn't look like good clothes for fucking people up in. 0.97

01:02:02.000 No, it looks cool. 0.98

01:02:04.000 Yeah.

01:02:05.000 But what a weird outfit, right?

01:02:07.000 That military...

01:02:08.000 It's really weird.

01:02:09.000 How much hand-to-hand combat were they doing?

01:02:11.000 Because there wasn't a lot of swords.

01:02:12.000 They were just jerking each other off.

01:02:14.000 That's all they did.

01:02:16.000 They just got in the woods and...

01:02:18.000 Because if they knew any jiu-jitsu, someone could choke everyone out with that.

01:02:22.000 With those outfits?

01:02:23.000 Yeah.

01:02:24.000 I bet that clothing doesn't move good, too. 1.00

01:02:27.000 I mean, I'm just guessing, but I think their fucking cloth was probably dog shit back then. 1.00

01:02:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:33.000 Probably real stiff, hard to move around in.

01:02:35.000 It's just a weird outfit.

01:02:35.000 It's not like...

01:02:37.000 If you were to run through the woods and fire a gun, you want to wear it like soldiers wear today.

01:02:42.000 And you want to be able to blend in.

01:02:44.000 But it's just so strange that that wasn't even a concern back then.

01:02:46.000 They had knee-high leggings.

01:02:49.000 They had weird shoes.

01:02:50.000 Wars were more like chess.

01:02:52.000 Like the soldiers and all the different rank and file, they were all like...

01:02:56.000 Pieces on a chess board.

01:02:57.000 So it's all about strategy.

01:02:59.000 It's like, we'll line our men up this way and we'll do this and blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:03:03.000 It's more like that's how battles are being organized is like chess games.

01:03:07.000 You want to know how goofy?

01:03:08.000 Before it got gorilla.

01:03:09.000 Right, right, right.

01:03:10.000 Well, it was gorilla at first, and then it became...

01:03:12.000 No, that's true.

01:03:13.000 Because it was like Mongol days. 1.00

01:03:15.000 They were lighting people on fire and using them as catapults.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, by any means necessary war.

01:03:19.000 Those shoes did not have tread.

01:03:22.000 They hadn't invented tread on shoes yet. 0.91

01:03:24.000 That's how goofy people are. 0.88

01:03:25.000 Yes. 0.87

01:03:25.000 They had leather shoes. 0.87

01:03:28.000 So the soles were leather.

01:03:29.000 So they were scuffed up.

01:03:31.000 But there was no tread.

01:03:33.000 I bet you some soldiers like figured out how they wrapped, you know, like took leather and wrapped layers, you know, around the foot so it created at least traction.

01:03:41.000 Because if you think like you take like a trail running shoe...

01:03:45.000 And do you ever wear like a Solomon Speed Cross trail?

01:03:49.000 Oh, I love those.

01:03:50.000 Yeah, they're great.

01:03:50.000 They have these big divots in the bottom.

01:03:52.000 You can really dig into the dirt with those things.

01:03:54.000 Yeah.

01:03:54.000 If you had to compare yourself running up a hill in cowboy boots that have the flat, leather, smooth, slippery surface versus...

01:04:03.000 You would fall on your fucking face. 0.99

01:04:05.000 Yeah, there's no way you'd have any confidence going up that hill. 1.00

01:04:08.000 Yeah, nothing.

01:04:08.000 But those Solomons, you just dig in and go.

01:04:10.000 It gives you a totally false perception of reality.

01:04:13.000 Like, I have...

01:04:14.000 Those Vibram five-finger running shoes.

01:04:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:04:17.000 And I run in the trail ones, which have a good amount of tread in it.

01:04:21.000 But one day I tried to run in the ones that aren't trail ones.

01:04:25.000 They're basically just for the gym.

01:04:26.000 They're super thin.

01:04:27.000 There was no tread at all. 1.00

01:04:29.000 I was falling on my fucking face. 0.99

01:04:31.000 My legs would just go, whoops! 1.00

01:04:32.000 Just kick out from going uphill.

01:04:34.000 Your legs just go, whoopsies! 1.00

01:04:35.000 There's no tread.

01:04:37.000 No tread at all.

01:04:38.000 It's just slippery.

01:04:39.000 I couldn't imagine that.

01:04:40.000 If you're running up a stiff hill, you need divots.

01:04:43.000 You need something that's going to help you.

01:04:45.000 They didn't even have that back then.

01:04:47.000 They just had leather.

01:04:48.000 Did you find tread?

01:04:50.000 I sort of found a shoe.

01:04:52.000 I think it says it was from the Revolutionary War, but it doesn't show the tread. 0.99

01:04:55.000 It's just a fucking old piece of leather that's wrapped around his foot. 0.99

01:04:58.000 See, don't tread on me. 1.00

01:04:59.000 That was their shoes back then. 1.00

01:05:01.000 Bullshit-ass shoes. 1.00

01:05:02.000 But the bottom was just fucking leather. 1.00

01:05:05.000 I mean, I wonder when they figured out like Vibram leather soles, you know? 0.99

01:05:08.000 I mean, rubber soles, where they figured out how to get those like thick, deep treads in.

01:05:13.000 There's some slave shoes from the Civil War time.

01:05:16.000 Yeah, those are clogs.

01:05:18.000 Wow.

01:05:19.000 Basically, they just borrowed that Dutch technology.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, wooden shoes. 1.00

01:05:23.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:05:24.000 Look at those things. 1.00

01:05:26.000 Wow.

01:05:27.000 Dude, this is a couple hundred years ago.

01:05:28.000 People would just take animal skin off and chop it up and put it on their body.

01:05:35.000 I love it.

01:05:35.000 That's how people stayed alive.

01:05:37.000 I like how they figured out wood and leather. 0.99

01:05:40.000 I wonder who the first fucking monkey was to figure out how to skin an animal and wear its skin. 0.98

01:05:46.000 You know, it had to be like in the monkey days, right? 0.99

01:05:49.000 No, it feels like it'd be a couple generations away from the monkey days.

01:05:55.000 Don't you think?

01:05:56.000 Maybe.

01:05:57.000 I just can't imagine a monkey doing that. 0.99

01:05:59.000 One mean motherfucking chimp, and they were going north, and there's one dude who always annoyed him. 1.00

01:06:04.000 So he kills him with a rock, and then uses the rock to take his fucking skin off and wears it to freak everybody else out. 1.00

01:06:09.000 But then he realizes it makes him warm. 0.99

01:06:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:12.000 And he can go a little further north.

01:06:13.000 Uh-huh.

01:06:14.000 It's like a movie.

01:06:15.000 Okay.

01:06:16.000 I like it.

01:06:17.000 Can you see that scene?

01:06:18.000 I can see that.

01:06:20.000 That's what the entire movie leads up to.

01:06:23.000 I wonder when the first monkey figured out he could kill an animal with a tool. 0.66

01:06:29.000 Like Australopithecus or one of those primitive humans. 1.00

01:06:33.000 When the first one was that stabbed something, like stabbed a rat or a rabbit with a stick and went, holy shit. 0.99

01:06:41.000 Right. 0.99

01:06:41.000 I can just use this tool. 0.99

01:06:43.000 Yeah.

01:06:43.000 What other tools can I make?

01:06:44.000 I'm going to start eating.

01:06:45.000 Yeah.

01:06:45.000 I'm going to eat good.

01:06:46.000 Because if you didn't have a weapon, how hard is it for a person to kill something with your hands?

01:06:53.000 What are you even going to get?

01:06:54.000 What are you going to catch?

01:06:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:56.000 What the fuck can you catch with your hands? 1.00

01:06:59.000 You can't catch a squirrel. 1.00

01:07:01.000 Just your hands, no tools.

01:07:02.000 You'd be hunting and gathering mostly.

01:07:04.000 I mean gathering, I would say. 0.99

01:07:06.000 Yeah, you'd be eating shit that you found on the ground. 0.98

01:07:08.000 Yeah, that's primarily what you would eat. 0.99

01:07:10.000 And then once in a while you'd get something, an animal.

01:07:13.000 But yeah, you're right.

01:07:15.000 They obviously had to figure out different ways of getting animals. 0.90

01:07:19.000 Well, it's one of the shifts that they think took place that allowed the human brain size to double over a period of two million years.

01:07:27.000 Oh, really?

01:07:27.000 Human brain size, apparently, I was listening to a Terence McKenna lecture on this once, and he was talking about all the human brain size doubled over the period of two million years.

01:07:37.000 It's one of the biggest mysteries in the fossil record.

01:07:39.000 And his idea was that they discovered mushrooms.

01:07:42.000 In that the chimps, over this period of time, or the monkey people, whatever the fuck they were, ancient hominids, had discovered mushrooms after the climate had shifted. 0.99

01:07:51.000 And he backs it up. 0.82

01:07:52.000 He did back it up.

01:07:53.000 I believe he's dead now.

01:07:54.000 He backed it up with some climate data that we know from core samples and stuff like that.

01:08:02.000 He thinks that they...

01:08:03.000 We experienced climate change where the rainforest had receded in the grasslands and that this gave birth to the rise of undulates like cows and deer and things like that. 1.00

01:08:15.000 And they would shit and these mushrooms would grow on their shit. 1.00

01:08:19.000 And then they've observed a lot of these monkeys in the wild picking up cow patties and looking for grubs and beetles underneath it. 1.00

01:08:27.000 Oh, I see.

01:08:28.000 And they think they might have experimented with the mushrooms.

01:08:30.000 And that if they experimented with psilocybin mushrooms, a lot of things could take place once they realized that it was not just a viable food source, but also provided them with a bunch of different benefits.

01:08:39.000 One being their vision.

01:08:41.000 It increases visual acuity.

01:08:43.000 I know.

01:08:43.000 It's so weird.

01:08:44.000 Especially in low doses.

01:08:46.000 So it would make them see things better.

01:08:48.000 Two, it makes them hornier.

01:08:49.000 It makes them more communal.

01:08:50.000 And it makes them more creative.

01:08:52.000 And all those things possibly could have given birth to language and to a lot of other things.

01:08:58.000 They also think it's possible that that creativity could have enabled them to start hunting.

01:09:03.000 They started using tools and thinking and trying to figure out ways around stuff and trying to figure out how to make an effective weapon to kill something at a distance.

01:09:13.000 The more they're thinking and becoming creative, the more that stuff's enhancing them.

01:09:18.000 And this period of two million years is like a pretty profound jump for the human brain size.

01:09:23.000 They think some of that also came to do with our desire to kill things with weapons.

01:09:28.000 That once we started hunting and eating meat, we got way more protein, more bioavailable protein.

01:09:34.000 It was healthier for the animal, for the human animal.

01:09:36.000 And then we also started to try to figure out other better ways to kill these animals, which made us even more creative and competitive.

01:09:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:09:44.000 And they think that all these factors might have taken place that turned us into a person.

01:09:50.000 That's pretty amazing.

01:09:51.000 Two million years.

01:09:52.000 Yeah, it's just like a deviation.

01:09:54.000 Well, you know what's even crazier?

01:09:55.000 65 million years ago, we were like a mole.

01:09:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:00.000 People were like a little shrew.

01:10:01.000 That's our ancestor. 0.55

01:10:03.000 That's right.

01:10:03.000 I remember that.

01:10:04.000 What's the name of that thing?

01:10:05.000 I don't know, man.

01:10:06.000 I think it's the Fnorf-Crispyspys. 1.00

01:10:09.000 What is this?

01:10:10.000 Snorf-Crispyspys.

01:10:11.000 I think you're right.

01:10:12.000 Say it again.

01:10:13.000 One more time, please.

01:10:13.000 I'm going to write this down.

01:10:14.000 The Snorf-Crispyspys. 1.00

01:10:17.000 It was like a weird little mole thing.

01:10:18.000 Crisp-Crispyspys.

01:10:21.000 That's what it is.

01:10:22.000 Yeah.

01:10:23.000 It's a little tiny rodent.

01:10:25.000 Yeah, because I did a podcast.

01:10:26.000 No, I toured with...

01:10:29.000 What is it, Jamie?

01:10:30.000 Oh, there it is.

01:10:31.000 I don't know.

01:10:33.000 The alias of, what is that word?

01:10:36.000 Utherian mammals was a small rat-like creature depicted in this illustration that lived 145 million years ago in the shadow of the dinosaurs.

01:10:44.000 So that rat-like creature apparently survived the asteroid impact.

01:10:49.000 I don't think that's the thing, though.

01:10:53.000 There's a formal name for it.

01:10:55.000 I know because I was on a podcast and one of the segments of it, they talked about this thing.

01:11:02.000 But the only reason why I'm skeptical is because it says 145 million years ago, but I guess maybe they survived the impact.

01:11:08.000 Scroll back up to the top where the title says.

01:11:10.000 These rodent-like creatures are the earliest known ancestors of humans, whales, and truce.

01:11:14.000 Oh, okay.

01:11:15.000 That's what's even more crazy.

01:11:16.000 We used to be a whale.

01:11:19.000 Or our ancestors, we shared a common ancestor, I should say.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, we like went into the sea and then stayed on land. 1.00

01:11:25.000 That thing, that fucking rat became a whale. 1.00

01:11:27.000 What? 1.00

01:11:28.000 Maybe that's it.

01:11:29.000 Utheria, there it is. 0.89

01:11:31.000 Okay.

01:11:33.000 That turned into a person, folks.

01:11:35.000 Think about that when you're setting your rat traps.

01:11:37.000 I know.

01:11:38.000 A hundred million years from now, rats might be some super superior human form.

01:11:42.000 I think that's very possible.

01:11:44.000 I mean, I get why Christians are skeptical now.

01:11:47.000 I'm like, what do you – show me your work.

01:11:50.000 God made this.

01:11:51.000 God didn't – I was not a rat.

01:11:53.000 I was not a rat, sir.

01:11:54.000 Yeah, I just appeared.

01:11:55.000 But in essence, here's a way to kind of maybe justify that argument.

01:12:00.000 It's like, let's say the mushroom thing is true, right?

01:12:03.000 So, in essence, humans became humans with the intervention, if you will, of a natural psychedelic substance, Yeah.

01:12:33.000 That's one way of thinking of it.

01:12:35.000 God, collective consciousness, whatever you want to call it.

01:12:37.000 Like, that intervention or the ability to see or sense that expansiveness of that collective intelligence could be attributed to God.

01:12:48.000 So therefore, you could say, well, I was never a blah, blah.

01:12:51.000 It's like, well, yeah, you are from that, but what created you was something more cosmic.

01:12:57.000 If that's even true.

01:12:59.000 Yeah.

01:12:59.000 Well, I was reading a quote today that someone was mocking from Piers Morgan.

01:13:03.000 We were talking about atheists and not knowing what happened before the Big Bang. 0.53

01:13:11.000 No one has any answer for what happened before the Big Bang and about how this made sense to him.

01:13:18.000 That...

01:13:20.000 I think the way he was saying it was somehow or another, it was evidence, or at least in his eyes, of something more superior.

01:13:27.000 Oh, here it is.

01:13:29.000 Atheists can never say what was there before the Big Bang.

01:13:32.000 They just say nothing, and they can't explain what nothing actually is.

01:13:36.000 No human brain can, which is why I believe in something that has superior powers to the human brain.

01:13:41.000 Well, that makes sense. 1.00

01:13:43.000 Oh, Brian Cox went after his ass. 1.00

01:13:45.000 What did Brian Cox say? 0.99

01:13:47.000 If you mean the hot Big Bang, then there may be a period of rapid expansion known as inflation.

01:13:55.000 This theory is able to account for the observed features of the universe, including the CMB power spectrum and the flatness and horizon problems.

01:14:04.000 I love it.

01:14:05.000 Brian Cox just came at him with the science.

01:14:07.000 I love it.

01:14:08.000 I know what he's trying to say.

01:14:09.000 That's how you do it.

01:14:09.000 I know what he's trying to say, what Pierce Morgan's trying to say, and he's right.

01:14:13.000 No one has an answer as to why this thing became, why the Big Bang happened.

01:14:19.000 There's an interesting quote by this guy we were talking about.

01:14:22.000 I forget who it was.

01:14:23.000 I wish I could remember.

01:14:25.000 But he was talking about how people have, it might have been McKenna, have so much faith in science.

01:14:30.000 And so little faith in mystical things, but yet science revolves on one initial theory where magic took place, where everything came out of nothing, that it was smaller than the head of a pin.

01:14:44.000 So everything you see in the observable universe, including planes, trains, and automobiles, all of it had to have had an origin in the most spectacular sorcery the world has ever known.

01:14:56.000 Like, it is all dependent upon magic.

01:14:58.000 So he wasn't...

01:14:59.000 He wasn't saying that, you know, ridiculous ideological ideas of the start and birth and death of the universe are fact.

01:15:09.000 But he was saying that, look, look, the fact, according to scientists, is that all evidence points to this whole thing coming out of nothing.

01:15:17.000 This whole thing, this whole thing existing out of nowhere.

01:15:20.000 And what Piers Morgan, I think, is saying is that that gives birth, that it gives proof that something superior to the human brain, which for sure it does.

01:15:31.000 This is Terence McKenna.

01:15:32.000 We are asked by science to believe that the entire universe sprang from nothingness at a single point and for no discernible reason.

01:15:39.000 This notion is the limit case for credulity.

01:15:43.000 In other words, if you can believe this, you can believe anything.

01:15:47.000 Well, I think I said it in a paraphrasical way.

01:15:50.000 That's basically the same thing.

01:15:51.000 He's, you know, just saying, like, it's all nuts, man.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, I mean, my thing is, like, I think, I like to think of it as in simulation terms, in the sense that if thinking of, like, reality and the way it's perceived and the way that we move through it is kind of a designed game of sorts.

01:16:12.000 And so if I think of it in that way, Like, nothing and something.

01:16:17.000 Nothing and something.

01:16:18.000 That's just kind of...

01:16:19.000 That's the core of our reality, right?

01:16:21.000 We live in a binary reality.

01:16:22.000 Everything is a complex assortment of binaries that add up into a really complex system.

01:16:28.000 Right.

01:16:28.000 In a way.

01:16:29.000 So...

01:16:29.000 What do you think it's moving towards?

01:16:31.000 Do you ever think about that?

01:16:32.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:16:33.000 I think that part of the rules or what makes it hard to rationalize, like, nothingness or something very, very fantastic...

01:16:44.000 It's just because it's binary, we are binary in our thought process.

01:16:50.000 So it's hard for us to not think of things in a binary way.

01:16:53.000 So we think, oh, there was a beginning.

01:16:55.000 No, there was an ending.

01:16:55.000 There was a beginning, there was an ending.

01:16:57.000 But really, it's infinite.

01:16:59.000 It's paradox, right?

01:17:00.000 It's everything and nothing simultaneously.

01:17:03.000 And the absence of which.

01:17:05.000 But I guess what I'm saying is that the idea that things are infinite, that reality is infinite, It's kind of a good way, but kind of can be scary, but a good way to think of it because it doesn't make any sense why it wouldn't be.

01:17:20.000 It seems like we have a limited way of viewing what reality is, and I think we're limited by our binary thought processes.

01:17:27.000 I guess.

01:17:28.000 Well, it's also interesting that we want to put any sort of limitations on the universe and that its immense size isn't crazy enough for us.

01:17:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:38.000 I know.

01:17:39.000 Or that, like, we could look at what we know, right?

01:17:42.000 That's funny.

01:17:43.000 If we know that the universe has hundreds of billions of galaxies, like, there's a bunch of competing theories as to what happens, you know, with black holes and whether or not there's multiverses.

01:17:53.000 There's a bunch of competing theories, right?

01:17:54.000 Yes, right.

01:17:55.000 But one of the most profound ones that it was ever explained to me is that there's a supermassive black hole in the center of every galaxy.

01:18:02.000 And it's exactly, I think, one half of 1% of the mass of the entire galaxy.

01:18:06.000 Oh, really?

01:18:07.000 It works out like that?

01:18:07.000 Yeah, so the bigger galaxies have bigger supermassive black holes.

01:18:11.000 Sick.

01:18:12.000 And the concept is that it's...

01:18:16.000 There's a real possibility that going through that black hole you would encounter an entirely different universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies.

01:18:25.000 Each galaxy have a black hole in the center of it.

01:18:29.000 Go through that black hole an entirely different universe.

01:18:31.000 So each one Each universe, where you have hundreds of billions of galaxies, there's hundreds of billions of universes through those black holes, and each one of those galaxies, or each one of those universes, has also hundreds of billions of galaxies,

01:18:49.000 and each one of those has a black hole, you go through that, hundreds of billions of galaxies, that the whole thing...

01:18:54.000 It's a fractal.

01:18:55.000 Exactly.

01:18:56.000 It just keeps happening.

01:18:58.000 There's a resistance.

01:18:58.000 No, come on!

01:19:00.000 Yeah.

01:19:00.000 There's a thing, like an instant reaction to resist that notion, as if the universe itself isn't already the most incredible thing of magic.

01:19:08.000 Right, I know.

01:19:09.000 What do you care if it's infinite?

01:19:10.000 Why would you even resist that?

01:19:12.000 Well, because that's the part of the binary thinking.

01:19:14.000 It's like you want something to have an end.

01:19:17.000 It's a way for us to survive, but it's like, oh, there's an end to that.

01:19:21.000 That creates a...

01:19:23.000 A need to survive.

01:19:24.000 But when you think of things in an abstract way, like, well, if something is just infinite, infinite, infinite, what does that mean about us?

01:19:31.000 It's like, that's the question.

01:19:32.000 That's the thing to explore.

01:19:34.000 Because then you have to renegotiate your relationship to reality.

01:19:38.000 Yeah.

01:19:39.000 Which is pretty sick.

01:19:40.000 We have at least, we'd like to take comfort in the idea that the universe has at least, there's a certain parameter to it.

01:19:47.000 No, no.

01:19:47.000 It's 14 billion light years and that's it.

01:19:49.000 That's it.

01:19:50.000 No more.

01:19:51.000 No more.

01:19:51.000 As if you can even understand what 14 billion light years is.

01:19:55.000 There's no way it could be that number.

01:19:57.000 It seems more like 19. But whatever that number is, the way Cox explained it to me.

01:20:03.000 Yeah.

01:20:04.000 And I believe Sean Carroll explained it this way as well.

01:20:06.000 There's a real lack of understanding about what goes beyond that because it takes a certain amount of time for light to even get to us.

01:20:15.000 And that time that the light doesn't move fast enough to reach us from further events.

01:20:23.000 So if you had something from like 200 billion light years ago, maybe the light wouldn't even get to us yet.

01:20:30.000 Yeah.

01:20:31.000 Yeah, there's things that, yeah.

01:20:32.000 I mean, we're living in a time machine. 0.96

01:20:34.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the other mindfuck.

01:20:38.000 When you're looking in the sky and you're seeing a galaxy or any sort of star, like in the deep, deep, deep distance of space. 0.88

01:20:46.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:20:47.000 The fucking light coming from that thing left a million years ago. 0.99

01:20:51.000 Yeah, I know. 0.99

01:20:52.000 Or way more!

01:20:53.000 You're literally just looking at the past.

01:20:55.000 If you had to imagine, what is the closest star to our star in the seeable universe?

01:21:03.000 When you look up into the night sky.

01:21:06.000 Is it the dog star?

01:21:07.000 Is that a star?

01:21:09.000 Sometimes things are called stars, but they're planets.

01:21:11.000 From old school times.

01:21:13.000 And I could be wrong.

01:21:14.000 If you had to guess, what's the closest?

01:21:17.000 How many light years?

01:21:18.000 Alpha Centauri?

01:21:19.000 I don't know.

01:21:19.000 Yeah, that sounds great.

01:21:21.000 Alpha Centauri, is it?

01:21:22.000 How far away is that?

01:21:25.000 4.3 light years from Earth.

01:21:28.000 Wow, that's not too bad.

01:21:29.000 That's a hop, skip, and a jump, kids.

01:21:31.000 If you could go to the speed of light, it'd take you four years.

01:21:32.000 I bet that's like the Hawaii of outer space.

01:21:34.000 They go there and there's a pit stop there before they come to Earth and the aliens come and they want to chill.

01:21:40.000 I... I hope so.

01:21:43.000 Alright, so, hold on, this is a... 0.99

01:21:45.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:21:46.000 Some breaking news. 1.00

01:21:48.000 No, not really, no.

01:21:48.000 Alpha Centauri is a...

01:21:50.000 It's a binary pair, so I imagine that means that they move around each other a little bit.

01:21:54.000 Yeah, they orbit around each other.

01:21:55.000 There's technically a third star, Proxima Centauri, which is...

01:21:59.000 Because it says those are an average of 4.3, this one's 4.22, so it's technically closer.

01:22:04.000 Nice.

01:22:06.000 So two are closer than the one.

01:22:08.000 On one day.

01:22:09.000 Now, do they know if there's planets around those stars?

01:22:12.000 So they didn't even know there were other planets, for sure, other than our solar system.

01:22:17.000 I know.

01:22:17.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:22:18.000 Until just a couple decades ago.

01:22:19.000 It's so amazing.

01:22:20.000 To me, it's like shining a flashlight in the ocean.

01:22:23.000 Yeah.

01:22:24.000 You know, like, that's what space is like.

01:22:25.000 Right.

01:22:25.000 It's like you're moving a beam, but, like, things are constantly changing at different distances.

01:22:31.000 Yeah.

01:22:31.000 You can see better under certain circumstances and you can see at different times.

01:22:34.000 So it's kind of like a big existential party.

01:22:38.000 You're like, I think I'm making sense of this.

01:22:40.000 And then there's all these theories and then someone catches another angle.

01:22:43.000 They're like, no, no, no.

01:22:44.000 I mean, yes, a little bit of what you guys were thinking, but also this. 1.00

01:22:47.000 And they're like, fuck! 1.00

01:22:48.000 And they just keep adding to it. 1.00

01:22:50.000 But I don't know if we're going to find necessarily anything.

01:22:53.000 Well, when you talk to physicists about the subject and they try to explain to you how they even reach these conclusions...

01:22:59.000 And how they know that there's black holes out there in the first place and these theories... 0.92

01:23:05.000 Fucking, like, these theories of multiverses and... 0.97

01:23:09.000 Yeah, that's my favorite. 0.99

01:23:10.000 ...and brains, the membranes, that there's, like...

01:23:13.000 Yeah, M-theory.

01:23:14.000 ...like, lines of universes, and we collide with each other occasionally.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:23:18.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:23:19.000 That's what I think ghosts are, by the way. 1.00

01:23:21.000 Ooh.

01:23:21.000 Which was, like, in Interstellar...

01:23:23.000 Was it Interstellar?

01:23:24.000 Mm-hmm.

01:23:25.000 Yeah, with Matthew Modine.

01:23:27.000 Is that the star?

01:23:27.000 McConaughey.

01:23:28.000 How dare you?

01:23:29.000 I know.

01:23:30.000 I'm pretty sure it was Modine, guys.

01:23:32.000 Vision Quest.

01:23:33.000 Vision Quest.

01:23:35.000 Oh my god.

01:23:36.000 Remember that?

01:23:36.000 Remember the Russian training with the log?

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 Up the stairs?

01:23:39.000 Yes.

01:23:40.000 No, he wasn't Russian.

01:23:41.000 Wasn't he?

01:23:41.000 No, no, no, no.

01:23:42.000 He was the chute.

01:23:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:43.000 He was the ultra guy, right?

01:23:46.000 Yeah.

01:23:47.000 But there was like a guy training.

01:23:49.000 Or was he training or was the opponent training?

01:23:52.000 Well, Matthew Modine was training crazy, but he was trying to drop weight to go down to wrestle this guy that everybody was terrified of.

01:23:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:23:59.000 That's what it was.

01:24:00.000 But was Shoot the one that was walking with the log?

01:24:02.000 Yeah.

01:24:02.000 He was carrying a log up stadium stairs.

01:24:04.000 That's right.

01:24:05.000 That was so sick.

01:24:06.000 And he was super hardcore.

01:24:08.000 He's like, you think you're going to make the weight?

01:24:10.000 He goes, I hope so.

01:24:11.000 He goes, I hope so too.

01:24:12.000 And just kept walking with the log.

01:24:13.000 That's so good.

01:24:15.000 See if you can find that scene.

01:24:16.000 That's so good.

01:24:17.000 I mean, it's a great movie, man.

01:24:20.000 It's a great thing because that interaction right there is so genius because it tells you everything you need to know about both of those characters.

01:24:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:24:30.000 So they go, there he is.

01:24:31.000 There's a dude, this badass beast wrestler.

01:24:34.000 Of course he's by himself. 0.97

01:24:35.000 And his friend's got a fucking cool headband. 0.99

01:24:38.000 Well, his friend was a fake Indian. 1.00

01:24:39.000 Oh.

01:24:40.000 His friend lied about being a Native American.

01:24:43.000 Oh, so he could get into college?

01:24:44.000 No, he just thought it made him look cool.

01:24:46.000 Do I know you?

01:24:48.000 Do I know you?

01:24:49.000 Loud and sway, Thompson High.

01:24:50.000 Loud and sway, Thompson High.

01:24:52.000 Can you play this over the air?

01:24:53.000 No, no, don't.

01:24:55.000 We'll get pulled.

01:24:57.000 Yeah.

01:24:58.000 Think you're going to make the wait?

01:25:00.000 I hope so.

01:25:01.000 He's like, I hope so, too.

01:25:07.000 Just walking around with his log.

01:25:09.000 Boom.

01:25:09.000 And everyone's scared.

01:25:10.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:25:11.000 That dude's pretty big for 80s. 1.00

01:25:15.000 Yeah.

01:25:16.000 Well, he looked like a real wrestler.

01:25:18.000 Yeah, he looked real. 0.99

01:25:18.000 Guys like Mark Schultz when he was competing in the Olympics, he was fucking jacked, man. 0.99

01:25:22.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:25:22.000 There were some jacked wrestlers back then. 0.98

01:25:25.000 Still is, obviously.

01:25:26.000 Yeah.

01:25:27.000 It's one of the more physically intensive things you can do.

01:25:30.000 You've got to add that protection.

01:25:31.000 That muscle protects you.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, it's also, I mean, just wrestling all the time, you're going to get strong.

01:25:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:37.000 That too.

01:25:38.000 You get a certain kind of strength too.

01:25:40.000 You get that weird grip strength.

01:25:41.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:25:42.000 I'm telling you, that shit is like, it's like immediate, like violent amounts of strength. 1.00

01:25:48.000 Like for grips and stuff like that. 0.99

01:25:50.000 Because I just remember my friend, he was a wrestler, and I was like, yeah, I don't know.

01:25:53.000 Wrestling, it seems pretty hard or whatever.

01:25:54.000 So here, let me show you a move. 1.00

01:25:56.000 And I was standing, I was looking at him.

01:25:58.000 And I just blinked and I was just out of breath on the ground, on my back.

01:26:02.000 Just like...

01:26:03.000 They're experts at throwing bodies around. 1.00

01:26:06.000 Just like... 0.99

01:26:07.000 I mean, it's like strength, grip, and being able to torque shit and make shit happen. 0.99

01:26:12.000 I mean, it's insane. 0.99

01:26:13.000 Well, if you think about things you do to get fit, right?

01:26:16.000 Like with sandbags and stuff.

01:26:17.000 People do a lot of extreme things, right?

01:26:19.000 They flip tires, throw sandbags.

01:26:22.000 Hammers.

01:26:23.000 Yep.

01:26:23.000 They take heavy bags, too.

01:26:25.000 They throw them over their shoulder.

01:26:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:27.000 When you're wrestling, you're doing all that plus.

01:26:28.000 And plus, it's resisting.

01:26:30.000 Plus, another thing is trying to get you.

01:26:32.000 Right.

01:26:32.000 Yeah, it's super active.

01:26:34.000 It's like active strength is going to be a deeper form of strength.

01:26:38.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:26:39.000 A range of motion strength.

01:26:40.000 Yeah.

01:26:41.000 That's why the worst kind of strength is like Nautilus machine strength.

01:26:44.000 Yeah, yeah, weight-assisted machines.

01:26:46.000 Not the worst kind of strength.

01:26:47.000 I shouldn't say that.

01:26:47.000 Those things all have their purpose.

01:26:49.000 They're really good for specific types of workouts and specific types of exercises where you're just trying to fatigue the muscles.

01:26:56.000 A lot of strength and conditioning athletes like to use those to bang out reps because they feel like there's less factors going on in terms of whether or not you could drop the weight when you're losing coordination because you're super exhausted.

01:27:10.000 It's safer.

01:27:12.000 Right.

01:27:29.000 To a machine.

01:27:30.000 Because you've got to balance that thing.

01:27:31.000 Push it up and you develop stability.

01:27:34.000 You're actually holding the weight instead of just pushing against, like using your force against something that's lined up on tracks.

01:27:41.000 Yeah, you're controlling it.

01:27:43.000 You have to control it the whole way.

01:27:44.000 Yeah.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, so that's what wrestling is, but it's fighting back. 0.96

01:27:47.000 It's even harder.

01:27:47.000 Yeah, it's like on top of that.

01:27:49.000 So you've got a 180-pound dude who's also fighting back, and it's fuck. 0.99

01:27:53.000 Like, you're trying to pick him up and move him around, and he's also trying to get you at the same time. 0.99

01:27:57.000 Yeah, and it's all strategic.

01:27:59.000 Yeah.

01:27:59.000 So you're, like, on a strategic, instinctual level.

01:28:01.000 Yeah.

01:28:02.000 I hope you're training and your reflexes and your intuition.

01:28:05.000 It's really interesting to watch really skillful technical wrestlers because they go from one technique to another and they just chain wrestle.

01:28:13.000 Watching a lot of those, particularly Russians, there's a lot of Russian, a lot of Soviet bloc athletes From years back even, we're really, really technical with their wrestling.

01:28:24.000 Really beautiful to watch them chain these techniques together and do these different moves to try to achieve dominance.

01:28:31.000 It's a crazy sport.

01:28:33.000 Yeah.

01:28:35.000 Whenever I watch it, it's like when I watch dance, I'm kind of moving with it.

01:28:40.000 I mean, it happens with all sports, I suppose.

01:28:42.000 But wrestling, it's just like the energy when I'm watching it, which has been very rare.

01:28:49.000 But in high school, I used to see wrestling matches.

01:28:51.000 My friend was a wrestler.

01:28:52.000 And I'd just be like, oh, man. 0.98

01:28:55.000 It's fucking exciting. 0.96

01:28:56.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:28:57.000 It's cool because it slows down.

01:28:59.000 It's fast.

01:29:00.000 It's slow.

01:29:00.000 It's fast.

01:29:01.000 They're exhausted.

01:29:02.000 Take a break.

01:29:04.000 They go in.

01:29:05.000 And then like nothing for a while.

01:29:07.000 Like really just like slow moves.

01:29:10.000 And then suddenly someone just does like this really weird.

01:29:13.000 And it just flips.

01:29:14.000 And it's like, I love that energy, man.

01:29:16.000 It's a different thing than any other sport.

01:29:18.000 Yeah, it's different than any other sport that's in the Olympics, too.

01:29:22.000 Like, the Olympics, you have boxing and wrestling, and then you have sports.

01:29:25.000 Judo?

01:29:25.000 Yeah, judo.

01:29:26.000 Even taekwondo.

01:29:27.000 They have taekwondo in the Olympics, too, now.

01:29:29.000 But the thing is that it's a different kind of sport, man. 0.99

01:29:33.000 It's a sport where people get fucked up. 0.97

01:29:35.000 Like, those are different. 0.99

01:29:37.000 They're just different.

01:29:38.000 It's a different feeling when you're watching it.

01:29:40.000 It's a different consequence when you fail.

01:29:44.000 Yeah.

01:29:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:45.000 I mean, it's as close as you can get.

01:29:47.000 It's the closest thing to fighting.

01:29:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:50.000 I mean, because fighting is mostly grappling.

01:29:53.000 It's a lot of it.

01:29:54.000 A lot of it.

01:29:54.000 It's not everything.

01:29:55.000 Yeah.

01:29:55.000 But, like, at least, what, two-thirds?

01:29:57.000 Maybe?

01:29:58.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 Well, no, I don't think so.

01:30:01.000 Okay, real fights.

01:30:02.000 It's really like a street fight or an MMA fight?

01:30:04.000 Street fights go down pretty quick, right?

01:30:06.000 Sometimes they do.

01:30:07.000 But sometimes people get knocked out. 0.58

01:30:10.000 Sometimes people just get flatlined because they don't know how to strike and someone does and they punch them in the face.

01:30:15.000 That happens a lot, man.

01:30:16.000 Oh my god.

01:30:16.000 There's a lot of videos.

01:30:18.000 I think I've seen some of those.

01:30:20.000 Yeah, I mean, it definitely does happen that a lot of fights go to the ground.

01:30:23.000 And I think jujitsu is a great thing to learn, and wrestling is a great thing to learn because of that.

01:30:28.000 Like, the ability to manipulate someone's body is really important.

01:30:31.000 But you also should understand what someone's doing if they're trying to punch you.

01:30:35.000 Some people just don't have any idea what's happening.

01:30:37.000 Yes.

01:30:38.000 And they just get bong. 0.99

01:30:39.000 They're a fucking bell crack because they don't see a guy pulling his hand back. 0.99

01:30:43.000 They don't see the shift in weight. 1.00

01:30:44.000 Right.

01:30:44.000 They don't see someone about to punch them.

01:30:46.000 They don't see where the punch is going to come from, what direction that they have to avoid.

01:30:50.000 They don't see those things because they've never experienced it because they don't have a training.

01:30:55.000 They don't have any training in striking. 1.00

01:30:57.000 That's fucking dangerous, man. 0.99

01:30:59.000 Because if you lose to a wrestler or you lose to a jiu-jitsu guy, a lot of times a wrestler might beat you up on the ground. 0.99

01:31:05.000 He might ground and pound you.

01:31:06.000 But a jiu-jitsu guy is probably just going to choke you. 1.00

01:31:09.000 But a kickboxer is going to slam his fucking chin into your face. 1.00

01:31:13.000 You do not want that, man. 1.00

01:31:15.000 You do not want that. 1.00

01:31:17.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:31:18.000 It's the worst way to lose. 1.00

01:31:19.000 The worst way to lose is to a striker.

01:31:21.000 Oh.

01:31:22.000 Did you see the UFC this past weekend?

01:31:24.000 No.

01:31:24.000 This is the fastest ever knockout in UFC history.

01:31:26.000 This guy, Jorge Masvidal, knocked out this two-time Olympic wrestler, Ben Askren, who's a beast of a wrestler.

01:31:32.000 They knocked him out in five seconds.

01:31:33.000 Because Askren went to shoot to try to get a hold of his legs, and Masvidal ran at him with a flying knee and hit him right in the face while he was trying to bend forward.

01:31:41.000 That's legal? 0.99

01:31:42.000 Yeah, oh, fuck yeah, it's legal. 0.99

01:31:44.000 That's it right there. 1.00

01:31:45.000 Boom. 1.00

01:31:46.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:31:47.000 It's all over the internet. 1.00

01:31:48.000 You want to see it?

01:31:49.000 Yeah.

01:31:49.000 It takes five seconds.

01:31:50.000 It was one of those things where we watched it and we went, holy shit. 0.99

01:31:55.000 Like, as it happened, okay, is that us talking about it? 0.99

01:32:00.000 That one down there.

01:32:01.000 But that one down there.

01:32:02.000 Oh, don't mind us.

01:32:03.000 But you just turned away from it.

01:32:04.000 That wasn't the video.

01:32:04.000 But the one below it.

01:32:05.000 That wasn't it.

01:32:06.000 It wasn't it?

01:32:06.000 No.

01:32:07.000 It wasn't it.

01:32:07.000 Oh, it's other people talking about the reaction?

01:32:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:10.000 I see.

01:32:10.000 It's definitely on Instagram, but apparently it's getting pulled left and right.

01:32:14.000 Yeah, of course they're going to try to do that.

01:32:15.000 Which is like, that's for everybody.

01:32:17.000 I don't understand why they wouldn't.

01:32:18.000 Let everybody have that.

01:32:19.000 It's like, no, we need that.

01:32:20.000 We need to own that commodity.

01:32:22.000 But it's good for everybody.

01:32:24.000 It's not how the internet works either.

01:32:25.000 You don't win fans.

01:32:26.000 Here we go.

01:32:27.000 So this is the beginning of the fight.

01:32:29.000 Ready?

01:32:30.000 This is round one?

01:32:30.000 Yep.

01:32:34.000 Al Cold.

01:32:35.000 Five seconds.

01:32:36.000 Good call by the ref, though.

01:32:37.000 Yeah.

01:32:37.000 It wasn't even really five seconds.

01:32:39.000 He was out cold at three seconds.

01:32:41.000 Someone did a time from here, boom, out cold.

01:32:45.000 Three seconds.

01:32:46.000 And as the referee's running over to him.

01:32:48.000 Yeah.

01:32:49.000 And why is he yelling at him?

01:32:50.000 They hated each other.

01:32:51.000 Really?

01:32:52.000 Yeah, they hated each other. 1.00

01:32:53.000 Jorge Masvidal said that guy was taunting him for like ten years, talking shit to him. 0.99

01:32:57.000 So he couldn't wait to do that to him. 0.99

01:32:59.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 Now what?

01:33:01.000 Well, Ben dusts himself off.

01:33:03.000 He took it like a man.

01:33:04.000 I mean, he really did.

01:33:05.000 He went on a talk show and talked about it afterwards.

01:33:09.000 Good.

01:33:09.000 Yeah.

01:33:10.000 That's how you fucking douche it. 0.99

01:33:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:12.000 Yeah, he's like, look, it sucks. 0.94

01:33:13.000 I don't like losing that guy. 1.00

01:33:14.000 He's a douche. 0.98

01:33:15.000 Yeah, right. 0.64

01:33:16.000 But they're probably going to end up being somewhat friendly later on down the line.

01:33:21.000 No.

01:33:21.000 You don't think so?

01:33:22.000 No, Masvidal said that if he saw him at Whole Foods, it's not over. 0.70

01:33:25.000 He'd still smack him in the face.

01:33:27.000 Even Whole Foods couldn't hold him back.

01:33:29.000 Whole Foods can't hold him back.

01:33:30.000 Right in front of the kombucha.

01:33:31.000 The real GT's kombucha, the kind that you need to show your ID to get.

01:33:40.000 No, Whole Foods, man, that's like Hallow Grand.

01:33:43.000 You can't start a fight there.

01:33:44.000 No, he's willing to break the rules.

01:33:46.000 I saw a fight at Disneyland on Instagram the other day.

01:33:48.000 The dudes were going out on Disneyland.

01:33:50.000 Some guy punched a chick, too.

01:33:52.000 What?

01:33:53.000 People were filming it, too.

01:33:55.000 People were filming it, and these people were throwing down in front of their kids at Disneyland.

01:33:59.000 Terrible technique, too.

01:34:00.000 Everybody's terrible.

01:34:03.000 Terrible.

01:34:03.000 I love the equally disappointing aspect of it.

01:34:08.000 It's a terrible technique.

01:34:09.000 It's the most disappointing.

01:34:11.000 It's like, guys, if you're going to fight...

01:34:13.000 It's just...

01:34:14.000 Learn some technique.

01:34:16.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like someone stealing the stage and playing bad guitar.

01:34:19.000 You'd be angry, wouldn't you?

01:34:20.000 Yeah, sure.

01:34:20.000 Of course.

01:34:21.000 See what I'm saying?

01:34:21.000 Yeah, I get it.

01:34:22.000 No, I'm in complete agreement.

01:34:24.000 I think that that is kind of equally important because, hey man, if people are filming, you look like a consensual fight.

01:34:31.000 You look like you're trying to pretend you know how to fight.

01:34:33.000 Yeah.

01:34:33.000 And the worst is the pulling off of the shirt.

01:34:37.000 I don't even know how that even becomes like an instinct.

01:34:40.000 It's actually a good move.

01:34:41.000 Well, it's to keep you slippery, right?

01:34:43.000 So you can like...

01:34:43.000 Well, yeah, you don't want anybody choking you to death with your own jacket.

01:34:46.000 Oh, that's true.

01:34:47.000 Yeah.

01:34:48.000 That's true.

01:34:48.000 Well, okay.

01:34:49.000 But I mean, I guess in the videos that I've seen, it's been mostly about like, hey, check out how jacked I am.

01:34:55.000 Come on, bro.

01:34:56.000 Did you see the end here?

01:34:58.000 I kind of looked like this dude got choked out, but I couldn't quite tell what was going on here.

01:35:01.000 Because he went down quick.

01:35:02.000 Is that security?

01:35:03.000 And he might have even been out for a second.

01:35:04.000 So he's pulling that girl's hair.

01:35:07.000 See?

01:35:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:07.000 He's out cold.

01:35:08.000 He's out cold.

01:35:09.000 Oh, he dropped him.

01:35:10.000 His head banged off the ground, too. 1.00

01:35:12.000 That bald dude choked the shit out of him. 1.00

01:35:14.000 He's like, oh, I just killed that guy. 1.00

01:35:15.000 I better get out of here. 0.98

01:35:17.000 Whoever choked him.

01:35:18.000 No charges were pressed because no one wanted to say what the fight was about.

01:35:22.000 Hilarious.

01:35:23.000 Yeah.

01:35:25.000 So it was a guy that was holding a girl's hair at the end?

01:35:28.000 He said he got spit on, and then he went crazy.

01:35:31.000 Wow.

01:35:31.000 I don't know if that was the whole thing.

01:35:33.000 Isn't that funny?

01:35:34.000 That's all it takes.

01:35:34.000 A little bit of water.

01:35:36.000 A little bit of...

01:35:37.000 Yeah.

01:35:37.000 It's funny.

01:35:38.000 I got all the things that make people go crazy. 0.98

01:35:40.000 Spit in someone's face. 0.82

01:35:41.000 It's like, wow. 0.97

01:35:43.000 We're ready to go to war here.

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:45.000 I mean, it is pretty crude. 0.99

01:35:47.000 Couldn't that have been like a biological weapon back in the day if you had some smallpox or some shit? 0.99

01:35:51.000 Yeah, like, how dare you potentially infect me? 0.97

01:35:54.000 Do you ever hear Damon Wayans' joke about when Magic Johnson came back to the NBA? Magic Johnson, after he had HIV and then came back to the NBA, he said, Damon Wayans, who's, in my opinion, one of the most underrated comedians of all time, still one of my all-time favorites,

01:36:11.000 but in one of his HBO specials, he goes, everybody was avoiding Magic.

01:36:15.000 Nobody wanted to play defense.

01:36:16.000 He goes, except Dennis Rodman. 0.86

01:36:17.000 He goes, Dennis Rodman's like, listen, I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. 0.92

01:36:21.000 Oh, my God. 0.94

01:36:26.000 Oh my God. 1.00

01:36:27.000 I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. 1.00

01:36:30.000 This is dead. 0.99

01:36:30.000 It's one of my all-time favorite lines. 0.99

01:36:32.000 I hear that line and I'm like, God damn, that's a great, that is a crafted, brilliant thing to think. 0.97

01:36:37.000 It's like 180. It hurts. 0.99

01:36:40.000 That one hurts. 1.00

01:36:41.000 I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. 1.00

01:36:44.000 No, he says, I'm sorry, I fucked Madonna. 1.00

01:36:46.000 That's what he said. 1.00

01:36:47.000 I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms. 0.99

01:36:49.000 It was even more potent. 1.00

01:36:54.000 That's like some shit-talking shit. 1.00

01:36:56.000 That's the type of shit that wins the whole thing. 1.00

01:36:59.000 Yeah, you gotta walk away. 1.00

01:37:00.000 Keep talking after that.

01:37:01.000 No, that's it.

01:37:03.000 You're not taking your loss like a man. 0.99

01:37:05.000 Take your loss like a man. 0.96

01:37:09.000 Yeah, maybe that's why spitting. 0.74

01:37:10.000 And it's also, it's gross.

01:37:13.000 It's just gross and so rude. 0.99

01:37:15.000 It's so fucking rude. 1.00

01:37:16.000 I mean, when someone purposefully spits at you, you're like, I want to destroy you. 0.99

01:37:21.000 I would kind of understand that reaction.

01:37:24.000 Do you think people are licking food at grocery stores and some girl is going to get arrested or she's facing 20 years or something? 0.93

01:37:30.000 I don't know why.

01:37:33.000 So they thought it was funny to lick food and then know that people are going to buy it?

01:37:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:38.000 Well, people think it's funny to spit in people's food when they're serving it too.

01:37:42.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:37:43.000 People are kind of gross sometimes.

01:37:45.000 Yeah, you know, they'll get it any way they can, man. 0.90

01:37:48.000 Yeah.

01:37:48.000 They'll get back.

01:37:49.000 They'll get back at the world.

01:37:51.000 Yeah.

01:37:51.000 Do you take this?

01:37:52.000 My shit position in life. 1.00

01:37:53.000 It's like, no, I don't agree. 1.00

01:37:55.000 Here's your salad.

01:37:56.000 I'm sorry.

01:37:57.000 Yeah.

01:37:58.000 I know.

01:37:59.000 Mix it up.

01:38:00.000 So you gotta be nice to everybody.

01:38:03.000 But we like swap and spit with people.

01:38:05.000 Isn't that weird?

01:38:05.000 That is really weird.

01:38:06.000 Well, because that's consensual, right?

01:38:08.000 Yeah, well, not just that it's consensual.

01:38:10.000 It's like, it's pleasurable.

01:38:11.000 It's like, even if it's consensual, you don't want anybody spitting in your mouth. 0.99

01:38:14.000 No, because that's super fucking gross. 0.96

01:38:16.000 But kissing someone's okay. 0.98

01:38:17.000 If you open your mouth and they're like, that would be weird. 1.00

01:38:21.000 Like, you just spit in my fucking mouth. 1.00

01:38:22.000 This is gross. 1.00

01:38:23.000 God damn it. 0.99

01:38:23.000 But if someone's kissing you and there are tongues in your mouth and you're swapping, literally swapping spit, it's sexy. 0.99

01:38:29.000 It's hot.

01:38:29.000 We like it.

01:38:30.000 Yeah.

01:38:31.000 Yeah.

01:38:31.000 I'm glad.

01:38:32.000 I'm glad that I like that part.

01:38:33.000 Yeah.

01:38:34.000 Because the other part, I'm just like...

01:38:35.000 The other part's weird.

01:38:36.000 You can't.

01:38:36.000 What's wrong with you?

01:38:38.000 Why are you doing this? 1.00

01:38:39.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:38:39.000 Why are you spitting in each other's mouths? 1.00

01:38:41.000 You don't need to do that.

01:38:42.000 You could just choose not to.

01:38:43.000 It's like the delivery method is what we have a real problem with.

01:38:46.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:38:47.000 Apart from the program, these two fucking football players do it. 1.00

01:38:50.000 It's a giant movie in each other's mouth. 1.00

01:38:52.000 That's a movie?

01:38:53.000 Yeah.

01:38:54.000 So they really did do it for the scene?

01:38:55.000 I'm pretty sure, yeah.

01:38:55.000 Oh, they had to.

01:38:59.000 They spit in each other's mouths. 0.99

01:39:01.000 Well, I guess when you're playing football, you just want to be as savage as possible, and you don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:39:06.000 You'll make out with a dude, you'll fuck a couple of guys, and then you go play football. 0.99

01:39:11.000 Yeah, because then you feel like... 1.00

01:39:12.000 You don't care! 0.98

01:39:14.000 You have the entire force of the universe behind you.

01:39:17.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:39:18.000 People do things to let people know they don't give a fuck. 0.98

01:39:20.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.99

01:39:21.000 That is true.

01:39:22.000 They do things like that.

01:39:23.000 Have you seen Euphoria?

01:39:25.000 What is that?

01:39:25.000 The HBO show?

01:39:26.000 No. 0.99

01:39:27.000 It's fucking fantastic. 0.99

01:39:28.000 Is it new? 0.99

01:39:29.000 Yeah.

01:39:30.000 I think it's out now.

01:39:31.000 You know what it is, Jamie?

01:39:31.000 I've heard of it.

01:39:32.000 I've heard it's good.

01:39:33.000 I have not watched it yet.

01:39:34.000 What's it about? 0.99

01:39:35.000 It's ridiculous. 0.97

01:39:35.000 It's basically about... 0.97

01:39:37.000 It centers around a drug-addicted high schooler.

01:39:41.000 Played by Zendaya.

01:39:43.000 And it's just about the modern, kind of modern generation high school experience through her drug addiction or trying to overcome drug addiction or kind of realizing what is going on with her at that stage in her life.

01:39:58.000 And it's just the culture of all the things that kids deal with these days.

01:40:02.000 But it's done in a really, really...

01:40:04.000 Hyper beautiful stylized way.

01:40:07.000 It's so crazy intelligent.

01:40:09.000 It's amazing.

01:40:10.000 It really blew me away.

01:40:12.000 I just went to the opening and was like, I don't know.

01:40:15.000 I don't know what this is.

01:40:17.000 And then the guy got up and talked about it because the writer experienced addiction and has been clean for 15 years.

01:40:23.000 But that was his life back then as a teenager.

01:40:26.000 And so they adapted it.

01:40:28.000 And it's great.

01:40:29.000 But the reason why I bring that up is, what were we talking about a second ago?

01:40:34.000 What were we talking about before that?

01:40:35.000 Spitting. 0.82

01:40:36.000 Spitting each other's mouths? 0.98

01:40:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:38.000 Yeah, we went from that to people want to pretend they don't give a fuck or they want to let you know they don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:40:44.000 Oh yeah, that's exactly right. 0.99

01:40:45.000 Yeah, so there's like a great scene in the first, in the pilot.

01:40:49.000 It doesn't really give away anything, but one of the characters, she's in a kitchen and there's like a big bully dude, popular guy, that's like getting in her face and being really threatening. 1.00

01:41:01.000 And then she takes a knife and she just slices her arm and she's like, stay away from me, motherfucker. 1.00

01:41:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:31.000 That's a crazy thing to do to someone.

01:41:33.000 Cut yourself in front of them.

01:41:35.000 Yeah, cut yourself in front of them. 1.00

01:41:35.000 It just shows you, it's like, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:41:38.000 Like, that's like the ultimate. 0.99

01:41:39.000 What do you think I'll do to you?

01:41:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:42.000 And the guy was, everyone was just frozen. 0.99

01:41:44.000 They were like, I don't know what to fuck. 0.99

01:41:45.000 There's a bunch of high school kids in a kitchen. 0.99

01:41:48.000 Pretty cool, pretty cool, like, character detail that just kind of, like, shows you everything about that character in a split second.

01:41:55.000 Yeah.

01:41:55.000 Jesus.

01:41:57.000 Amazing. 1.00

01:41:57.000 I love that shit. 1.00

01:41:59.000 That's intense. 1.00

01:42:01.000 Yeah.

01:42:02.000 I love when you don't know something's good.

01:42:04.000 You don't know anything about it and then it turns out to be awesome.

01:42:06.000 It's the best feeling.

01:42:08.000 Previews are one of my favorite parts of going to the movies.

01:42:11.000 I love previews.

01:42:12.000 But yet, they ruin movies.

01:42:14.000 Exactly.

01:42:14.000 I know.

01:42:14.000 I'm the same way.

01:42:15.000 I'm the same way.

01:42:16.000 It's like peeking into a Christmas present. 0.99

01:42:18.000 Like when you're a little kid, you're like, I'm gonna just unwrap this bitch and re-wrap it. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Ah, it's a fucking TIE fighter. 1.00

01:42:23.000 Oh my god, I know why it's Darth Vader's. 1.00

01:42:25.000 Yeah, a little fucking sneak. 1.00

01:42:29.000 Unwrap the shit and re-wrap it. 1.00

01:42:31.000 Oh my god, I didn't even think she was coming. 1.00

01:42:33.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:42:34.000 And your parents are like, let me look at that wrapping again. 1.00

01:42:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:42:36.000 You little fuck. 1.00

01:42:38.000 I have been caught. 1.00

01:42:39.000 But that's almost like what previews are.

01:42:41.000 You get to see a little bit about what the movie's about.

01:42:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:42:44.000 Wouldn't it be better if you had no fucking idea? 0.99

01:42:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:42:48.000 I don't want to even know a synopsis.

01:42:51.000 I don't know what King Kong is.

01:42:53.000 Imagine if you didn't know what King Kong was.

01:42:54.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.000 Like the newer King Kong.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, you thought it was about a king.

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 In a land.

01:42:59.000 You have no idea.

01:43:00.000 And you sit down.

01:43:01.000 You have no idea how the story's going to come out. 1.00

01:43:03.000 And the moment you see the gorilla, you're probably like, holy shit! 0.98

01:43:08.000 You know, when he's fighting dinosaurs and stuff? 1.00

01:43:10.000 You'd be like, holy shit! 0.99

01:43:12.000 Yep. 0.99

01:43:13.000 It would be so much better than if you watch all those previews.

01:43:16.000 I heard the special effects were amazing on the new Godzilla.

01:43:19.000 But you go to see it and it's like, I've already seen it.

01:43:22.000 I know he's going to breathe fire out of his mouth.

01:43:23.000 I know what it looks like.

01:43:24.000 You've shown me.

01:43:25.000 Yeah, my favorite trailers are the ones that just kind of give you a feeling of the world and that's it.

01:43:32.000 Like the new Joker trailer is sick.

01:43:34.000 Yes.

01:43:36.000 Perfect example.

01:43:37.000 It's great.

01:43:37.000 It's a piece of art unto itself, but it's not giving away a lot.

01:43:41.000 I mean, there's a lot of time. 0.97

01:43:42.000 You see a lot of shit, and you kind of get an idea, but not really. 0.98

01:43:46.000 It's a very artful trailer. 0.99

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:49.000 But you gotta have something, otherwise people aren't gonna go to your movies.

01:43:53.000 I know, that's the problem.

01:43:53.000 But remember Cloverfield?

01:43:55.000 Yeah.

01:43:56.000 When that came out, and like that weird, the ads that they would show would just be like, and that's all you heard.

01:44:01.000 Yeah.

01:44:01.000 Cloverfield.

01:44:02.000 And you're like, what the fuck is this? 0.99

01:44:03.000 Those are weird movies, right? 0.99

01:44:05.000 Like those movies, like this movie sucks because it was just filmed by people who were there.

01:44:11.000 The quality's terrible. 0.76

01:44:13.000 The camera's going to be shaky.

01:44:14.000 People are going to scream and drop the camera.

01:44:17.000 It's going to bounce, and you're going to see a shadow.

01:44:19.000 But that was kind of new back then-ish.

01:44:20.000 I mean, Blair Witch was kind of the starter of that.

01:44:23.000 Bro, Blair Witch freaked me out the first time I went to see it.

01:44:25.000 I went to see it with Chris McGuire, comedian Chris McGuire, and a couple folks that worked at the movie theater across the street.

01:44:33.000 And they came to see us.

01:44:35.000 We were performing at the Houston Laugh Stop.

01:44:38.000 Okay.

01:44:39.000 And so we were talking to them before the show, and they're like, hey, we work at the movie theater.

01:44:44.000 And I was like, oh, we're going to probably go there this weekend and see that Blair Witch movie.

01:44:47.000 And the dude was like, hey, I have the keys.

01:44:50.000 If you want, we can open it up tonight after the show.

01:44:52.000 I was like, what? 0.99

01:44:54.000 I was like, fuck yeah! 1.00

01:44:55.000 So it was right across the street. 1.00

01:44:57.000 So me and McGuire, and I think there was like three of them that worked there, we all hung out and watched The Blair Witch together in a fucking empty movie theater. 0.98

01:45:05.000 They made popcorn and everything. 0.98

01:45:06.000 What?

01:45:07.000 Dude, it was dope.

01:45:08.000 They had the key to the place. 0.96

01:45:09.000 I mean, if their boss found out, there would be fucksville.

01:45:13.000 Yeah, so don't share this.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, we're not telling anybody, but this is like 17, 18 years ago.

01:45:19.000 I mean, when did that movie come out?

01:45:21.000 When was that movie?

01:45:22.000 That movie's a long-ass time ago.

01:45:24.000 1999?

01:45:25.000 1999. So, yeah, 20 fucking years ago. 0.99

01:45:28.000 And we were at the Houston Laugh Stop. 0.96

01:45:29.000 It was awesome.

01:45:30.000 It was so cool.

01:45:31.000 What a great, like, flow of an event.

01:45:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:33.000 You have a dope-ass gig, and then you're like, oh, fuck, check this out. 1.00

01:45:37.000 Yeah, it was fun. 0.99

01:45:38.000 But that movie was...

01:45:39.000 It's effective. 0.95

01:45:40.000 It scared the shit out of you. 0.67

01:45:41.000 Yeah.

01:45:42.000 It took me a while to get into it.

01:45:43.000 Because I remember Dogma.

01:45:44.000 Do you remember that crew?

01:45:45.000 Yes.

01:45:46.000 So I remember the celebration that had come out.

01:45:49.000 That was the first movie that I saw that was made all on, you know, because they had those rules.

01:45:52.000 Like, we only use natural light.

01:45:54.000 We only use DV cams, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:45:57.000 Yeah.

01:45:58.000 And it was great.

01:45:59.000 It was interesting and weird.

01:46:00.000 And oh my god, that's kind of crazy.

01:46:01.000 And then Blair Witch came out and had that kind of vibe, but a little bit more curated narrative.

01:46:09.000 But I was like, I thought it was eerie, but I really didn't get scared until the very, very end.

01:46:16.000 When it's going down the stairs.

01:46:19.000 And then the flashlight is searching around and then sees that girl facing the corner.

01:46:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:46:24.000 That fucked me up. 0.98

01:46:25.000 Yes. 0.98

01:46:26.000 That one moment.

01:46:28.000 So the whole thing, I was like, ah, it's pretty, you know, it's cool.

01:46:30.000 It's creepy.

01:46:31.000 Okay. 1.00

01:46:32.000 And then it just, that thing, I was like, fuck you. 1.00

01:46:37.000 It was a strong closer. 1.00

01:46:39.000 It was a real strong closer.

01:46:40.000 I mean, that's the way you go out.

01:46:42.000 Yeah.

01:46:42.000 That's the way you go out.

01:46:44.000 Isn't it interesting that we like movies that are on film?

01:46:47.000 We like that look.

01:46:48.000 Yeah, we do.

01:46:49.000 We like the things that are in the forefront and focus, but everything in the back is just blurry and fuzzy.

01:46:55.000 That's true.

01:46:56.000 It's got this quality thing to it.

01:46:58.000 Even though now we see videos that are very literal from phones all the time, we see that kind of imagery, we still don't necessarily see...

01:47:05.000 You wouldn't see that in a movie theater necessarily.

01:47:07.000 Right.

01:47:08.000 You're too distracted by all the outside images.

01:47:12.000 So if you're talking to a person, like you and I are talking, I'm focusing on you.

01:47:15.000 I know there's some stuff over the left and some stuff over the right, but I'm not seeing it the same way I'm seeing you.

01:47:21.000 That's one of the reasons why when you visually interpret video, it's a very weird distortion, even though it's the most accurate representation.

01:47:30.000 Because you can't look at everything at the same time.

01:47:32.000 So if you look at a photograph and everything is in focus, what are you using?

01:47:37.000 What are you using to see things with?

01:47:38.000 Because my eyes don't work like that.

01:47:40.000 My eyes are looking at you and everything around you.

01:47:43.000 I know there's a clock right here, but dude, I can't even read what time it is.

01:47:46.000 It's right there.

01:47:47.000 I can't read it, but now I can read it.

01:47:50.000 The stuff that's just a few inches to your left or right, and I literally can't see them.

01:47:55.000 Yeah, it's just a tiny, tiny point that you're actually focusing on.

01:47:58.000 Just focus on right in front of these things.

01:48:00.000 Right in front of the face.

01:48:01.000 So that makes sense.

01:48:02.000 Like, for focus, it kind of replicates the way that...

01:48:04.000 And it's also a storytelling mechanism, right?

01:48:06.000 Focus on this part, you know?

01:48:08.000 Yes, it definitely is that, yeah.

01:48:10.000 But also, it's like, it looks cooler.

01:48:11.000 It just looks...

01:48:13.000 Yeah, it looks dope.

01:48:14.000 It looks pro.

01:48:15.000 You know, it's high-res.

01:48:17.000 Yeah, like a video camera, like a regular standard consumer-grade video camera almost takes clearer pictures.

01:48:25.000 Oh, for sure.

01:48:27.000 It's like if you ever put your phone in time-lapse mode.

01:48:30.000 Yes.

01:48:30.000 It looks like the way it tracks when you're moving it over objects, it's got a higher frame rate or something like that.

01:48:37.000 But it makes it look like that pan and scan shit, you know, when you're watching sports events or whatever.

01:48:42.000 And it just looks wrong. 0.95

01:48:44.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:48:45.000 Like it's too literal or something too...

01:48:47.000 The way everything moves just feels slightly off.

01:48:51.000 Do you think that we're just accustomed to the way film looks?

01:48:55.000 And then if we were accustomed to the way video looks...

01:48:59.000 Then a film would be a little clunky to us.

01:49:01.000 Like if everything started off as video and then they said, you know what?

01:49:05.000 It's not really good to have everything in focus.

01:49:07.000 It's only good to have some things in focus and then back away some things are blurry and then they come into focus and it actually enhances the filmmaking.

01:49:13.000 Yes.

01:49:13.000 Right?

01:49:14.000 Yes.

01:49:14.000 Like in a horror movie?

01:49:15.000 Yes. 0.99

01:49:15.000 When something's blurry and then they zoom in on it and you see it's like a fucking monster hiding under the bed. 0.99

01:49:20.000 You're like, oh no! 0.99

01:49:22.000 I didn't want that to happen.

01:49:24.000 You've now just revealed exactly what I didn't want to see.

01:49:26.000 Yeah.

01:49:27.000 Yeah.

01:49:27.000 No, I agree.

01:49:29.000 Yeah.

01:49:29.000 I don't know.

01:49:30.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:49:31.000 But I know that people like film.

01:49:33.000 I think it just looks...

01:49:33.000 It's the texture of it.

01:49:35.000 But now people like DV. Well, it's like people like vinyl, right?

01:49:39.000 There's people that are just diehard vinyl fans.

01:49:41.000 They like that sound.

01:49:42.000 Yeah.

01:49:43.000 I mean, I like anything.

01:49:46.000 But I like to make sure that it's the...

01:49:52.000 Yeah.

01:50:09.000 The way that music sounded, they also had to consider the mix of car speakers.

01:50:15.000 What does it sound like on car speakers?

01:50:16.000 So going back to the Aura Tones and the NS10s and then the standardized car speakers that people test audio in.

01:50:24.000 Right, and it's a different parameter, right?

01:50:26.000 Because you're stuck in this little contained metal box.

01:50:29.000 Yeah, so you've got to figure out how to mix the music.

01:50:32.000 But generally, it's the sound system that has to be adjusted.

01:50:35.000 The sound systems have to, but you mix.

01:50:37.000 They kind of meet each other in the middle, but great hi-fi systems.

01:50:41.000 Actually, it's a quick anecdote, but when I was in Seattle, I knew that I liked hi-fi systems, but I didn't know why they were so expensive.

01:50:52.000 And so I went into this place, this guy named Leland, who was working there.

01:50:57.000 I was kind of friends with him because I'd come in and I'd just scope gear all the time, just look at it like, oh, I love audio gear.

01:51:01.000 It's just really sweet.

01:51:03.000 And then one day, it was towards the end when they were closing, and he turns to me and says, hey man, do you want to get your brain fried?

01:51:10.000 And I was like, what?

01:51:11.000 What do you mean?

01:51:12.000 And he's like, stick around.

01:51:14.000 I'm like, okay.

01:51:14.000 And he closed shop.

01:51:16.000 A couple of his friends came and closed the shop.

01:51:17.000 It was like maybe five of us.

01:51:19.000 Went into the back room, smoked some marijuana, went into the showroom, the main room where they have all the speakers and all the different types of units.

01:51:28.000 And he says, then he just kind of turns to us.

01:51:30.000 We all sit down on the couch and he says, okay, you're going to listen to a, this is a system in total.

01:51:35.000 It costs about $150,000.

01:51:37.000 Whoa.

01:51:38.000 And then he just goes, proceeds and goes through and explains all of the stages that, you know, that the current is going through and what the music is going through and what's being played on, all the cables that are being used, all this stuff.

01:51:50.000 And then I heard all of that, crazy speakers, like, okay, cool.

01:51:54.000 He lowers the lights and he puts on a Bill Evans trio record.

01:51:58.000 I can't remember which one.

01:52:00.000 And he just presses play and we sit down and like within probably 30 seconds, people were crying.

01:52:08.000 Wow.

01:52:09.000 Because it felt holographic.

01:52:11.000 It felt like you were in the room with those musicians that were playing right there for you.

01:52:18.000 And then I had the realization, it's not about the money.

01:52:22.000 It's about what does it take to engineer a machine that becomes invisible to the experience?

01:52:28.000 Wow.

01:52:28.000 And that kind of blew my mind.

01:52:31.000 So whenever you're designing anything, it's like you're designing the experience. 0.95

01:52:35.000 The engineering should get the fuck out of the way. 1.00

01:52:38.000 What was the medium?

01:52:40.000 Was it vinyl?

01:52:41.000 Vinyl, yeah.

01:52:44.000 What do you think, like in your description, what is different about vinyl?

01:52:50.000 Well, I mean, supposedly, if you have a really nice quality piece of vinyl and it's cut really well, you get as close to the original mastered recording experience, like coming out of the studio, if you're talking about older tape.

01:53:07.000 So whatever that final mix is, when someone plays it and they're like, it's been mastered, here's the stereo two-track, we're playing the stereo two-track, it's been mastered.

01:53:16.000 Excuse me, I'm a little wheezy.

01:53:18.000 And...

01:53:19.000 That's what you hear.

01:53:20.000 You hear it in the best possible context on the speakers that it was mixed on.

01:53:24.000 Everything's optimal.

01:53:25.000 So essentially, when a record is pressed, if it can mimic the stereo two track, the master, which it does...

01:53:35.000 Then you have something that for at least the first, I don't know, vinyl people will say how many times, but a record starts to wear down.

01:53:43.000 But if you have a fresh press, you can run it a bunch of times before it starts to degrade.

01:53:48.000 But in that state, you're hearing it like analog, super analog.

01:53:51.000 It's like as analog as you can.

01:53:52.000 How many times do you think you play it before it starts to degrade?

01:53:54.000 I don't know.

01:53:55.000 I guess it depends on the ears of the audiophile, but there's probably an average.

01:53:58.000 I don't know what it would be.

01:53:59.000 Maybe 60, 30, 40, 50 times.

01:54:02.000 Now, is there a digital format that at least comes close to?

01:54:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:08.000 FLAC files.

01:54:09.000 What is that?

01:54:10.000 It's a file format.

01:54:12.000 FLAC files are good.

01:54:15.000 Usually 128, 96 kilohertz.

01:54:21.000 There's kind of a digital mastering standard.

01:54:24.000 And that standard is basically what that is, what a record is.

01:54:29.000 So that's why you have sites like HD tracks that I really dig.

01:54:34.000 You can get all your favorite—well, not all.

01:54:36.000 It's not as big of a selection, but you can get full resolution from like stereo two-track master from the studio level quality in a digital format that you can buy and then put into a high-res player.

01:54:50.000 So I have a high-res player, a hi-fi player, and it has really nice circuitry and all that stuff and then you use a really great pair of headphones, and you've got the closest thing to a record that's repeatable infinite times.

01:55:02.000 And is the headphones the way to go?

01:55:04.000 Or one of those crazy tower speaker jammies the way to go?

01:55:07.000 Well, it depends on your use case.

01:55:09.000 If you're in a house and you want a cool living room system or whatever, I would always opt for speakers.

01:55:16.000 And not Sonos and not that kind of stuff.

01:55:19.000 People, they dig it.

01:55:21.000 But true records are meant to be played off of two speakers.

01:55:26.000 It's a 2.1 system. 0.96

01:55:28.000 Unless it's specifically engineered, which is very rare for Atmos or whatever the fuck.

01:55:31.000 But usually it's two speakers and a subwoofer.

01:55:34.000 So why would I not want to hear the music the way it's supposed to sound?

01:55:37.000 Right.

01:55:38.000 However, I understand the convenience of those speakers, so I'm not totally knocking it.

01:55:41.000 But for me, if you're going to get a system for your living room, if I can get a 2.1 system.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, you want it played out the way, you want the sound to come at you the way it was recorded.

01:55:50.000 Yeah.

01:55:51.000 Otherwise it changes the experience.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, completely.

01:55:53.000 The Sonos and those types of things, they fake stereo.

01:55:56.000 Henry Rollins was on the podcast and he has this most preposterous setup in his house.

01:56:02.000 He is a gigantic audiophile. 1.00

01:56:04.000 Oh shit. 1.00

01:56:05.000 A massive lover of music. 1.00

01:56:07.000 Oh my god.

01:56:07.000 And he collects all these albums and he even runs a radio show.

01:56:12.000 Oh, I love his radio show.

01:56:13.000 It's dope. 0.55

01:56:14.000 It's on KCRW. Fanatic.

01:56:16.000 These are the crazy fucking speakers he has in his house. 1.00

01:56:18.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:56:20.000 What are those? 0.99

01:56:22.000 They're $200,000 is what they are.

01:56:23.000 Oh, I forget.

01:56:24.000 I have seen those.

01:56:25.000 I've seen pictures of that.

01:56:26.000 Who makes this?

01:56:29.000 Alexandria XLF is what they're called.

01:56:30.000 Okay.

01:56:31.000 Wilson Alexandria.

01:56:32.000 How dope they look. 0.98

01:56:33.000 I mean, it's disgusting. 0.96

01:56:35.000 Look at those things.

01:56:36.000 You have to have their weapons.

01:56:38.000 You know, like, you have to have...

01:56:39.000 Scroll back, pull back so we can see what the full size of those things.

01:56:43.000 Like, look, what a weird-looking piece of equipment.

01:56:46.000 I mean, it looks like...

01:56:46.000 Like a future robot.

01:56:47.000 It looks like an ATM machine, right?

01:56:49.000 Yeah, totally.

01:56:50.000 Or like a display screen robot.

01:56:51.000 Yeah.

01:56:52.000 Today, we have...

01:56:53.000 Swipe here for you.

01:56:55.000 Thank you for your business.

01:56:56.000 Goodbye.

01:56:57.000 So is the one that we're looking at on the right-hand side, is that the back?

01:57:00.000 The back, yeah. 0.99

01:57:01.000 Wow, look at all that shit in there. 1.00

01:57:03.000 It shows the inputs. 1.00

01:57:03.000 I don't even know what the fuck all that stuff is. 1.00

01:57:04.000 They have discrete inputs for each of the frequency spectrums, the different speakers. 0.98

01:57:09.000 Ooh! 0.99

01:57:11.000 Damn, some people go deep. 1.00

01:57:13.000 It's like everything, right? 1.00

01:57:14.000 Look at it.

01:57:15.000 That's what it looks like.

01:57:16.000 That's another one. 1.00

01:57:17.000 Look at that goddamn monsters thing. 1.00

01:57:19.000 I mean, it's beautiful. 1.00

01:57:21.000 I mean, audio is...

01:57:22.000 $200,000! 1.00

01:57:24.000 For fucking speakers. 1.00

01:57:24.000 Look at that guy. 1.00

01:57:25.000 He's like, I have it all!

01:57:28.000 No one will vanquish my spirit!

01:57:30.000 Look at the fringe on my curtains!

01:57:33.000 I am Heinrich Orwins.

01:57:35.000 That's crazy, man.

01:57:37.000 Yeah, well, there you go.

01:57:38.000 Henry Rollins.

01:57:38.000 Good sound system in a car is amazing, too, man, because, you know, you get like a Mark Levinson, like I have a Lexus that has a Mark Levinson system in it.

01:57:46.000 Yeah.

01:57:47.000 And it's just like the whole thing is engineered for the shape of the inside of the car.

01:57:50.000 Yes.

01:57:51.000 So it just rings out in all these perfect places.

01:57:53.000 It's...

01:57:54.000 It's tight.

01:57:55.000 One of my favorite places to listen to music is a car.

01:57:57.000 And I was stoked to get my Audi because I got the B&O system in there.

01:58:01.000 And I've never heard better audio. 0.97

01:58:03.000 I mean, I've heard some dope ass. 1.00

01:58:04.000 I think the Tesla uses Levinson stuff. 0.97

01:58:07.000 I'm not totally sure.

01:58:08.000 People haven't been able to figure it out, but they should have by now.

01:58:11.000 But I remember like five years ago trying to figure out what is the premium audio system?

01:58:15.000 What is it besides a premium audio?

01:58:17.000 And I couldn't get an answer.

01:58:19.000 Someone figured out what the amp was, but they couldn't figure out the speakers or something.

01:58:22.000 That's interesting.

01:58:24.000 But the Audi, man, Bang& Olufsen, and I have some 18s at home.

01:58:29.000 It's a 2.1 system.

01:58:31.000 And it just finally started.

01:58:32.000 It kicked in, and now it sounds amazing.

01:58:35.000 I was really kind of disappointed for a while.

01:58:37.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:58:38.000 Changed?

01:58:38.000 Yeah, there's like a burn-in.

01:58:40.000 What?

01:58:40.000 I think there's a burn-in.

01:58:42.000 I'm not sure.

01:58:42.000 Maybe it's totally psychological.

01:58:43.000 Maybe you got better weed.

01:58:45.000 Maybe I did get better weed.

01:58:46.000 I mean, what did you think of this weed, by the way?

01:58:48.000 Fantastic.

01:58:49.000 It's pretty groovy, right?

01:58:50.000 Really good.

01:58:50.000 Yeah, it's not weighing you down.

01:58:52.000 No, it's just a nice, friendly, like, you're fucking hot, but like, yeah, I feel good. 0.87

01:58:58.000 It's good stuff. 0.92

01:58:59.000 It's not like...

01:59:00.000 Yeah, you're not freaking out.

01:59:03.000 I like it a lot.

01:59:04.000 What's it called again?

01:59:05.000 Purple what?

01:59:06.000 Purple Tundra.

01:59:07.000 No.

01:59:08.000 Purple...

01:59:08.000 Rain?

01:59:10.000 Venom.

01:59:10.000 Thank you.

01:59:11.000 Geez.

01:59:12.000 Why does he know more than that?

01:59:14.000 Jamie's got a great mind.

01:59:16.000 I know.

01:59:17.000 The great brain.

01:59:18.000 That's awesome.

01:59:19.000 Purple Venom.

01:59:21.000 That's legit.

01:59:21.000 Are these speakers you got?

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:24.000 Dope.

01:59:25.000 They have the browns, yeah. 0.50

01:59:27.000 And then there's like a subwoofer that looks like an egg.

01:59:30.000 Yeah.

01:59:30.000 And they're great because I have my house kind of mid-century mod.

01:59:34.000 What's that mean?

01:59:36.000 Mid-century modern.

01:59:37.000 Oh.

01:59:38.000 That's me trying to...

01:59:39.000 Why is it so funny?

01:59:41.000 I think it's hilarious.

01:59:41.000 It's the first time I think I've said it out loud.

01:59:43.000 So you sounded it yourself?

01:59:45.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 It's just like mid-century mod.

01:59:47.000 That's funny.

01:59:48.000 You're going to love this.

01:59:49.000 The curtains are provided for.

01:59:51.000 You'll notice that the overall layout is mid-sinch mod.

01:59:55.000 The only people I don't trust is when I go over to the house and they have a minimalist set up where they have plastic chairs that don't look like they have any cushion and a flat table with nothing on it and everything's small and there's nothing there.

02:00:06.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

02:00:07.000 Did you show me your clean brain? 1.00

02:00:09.000 Are you a fucking psychopath? 1.00

02:00:11.000 What's happening here? 1.00

02:00:12.000 Where's the soft surfaces?

02:00:14.000 Where's the place to chill?

02:00:16.000 You know, I like...

02:00:17.000 What I dig is that mid-cinch mod furniture.

02:00:20.000 I don't even know what that is.

02:00:22.000 You know, like...

02:00:22.000 Was it Jules...

02:00:25.000 No, Jules...

02:00:28.000 I think he's a Swedish or Danish architect or furniture designer.

02:00:34.000 Finn Jewel.

02:00:35.000 That's it, I think.

02:00:36.000 And he makes these, like, you've seen these chairs before, but the originals are just, it's such a great work of art.

02:00:43.000 It's, like, sturdy, comfy, but light enough that there's, like, a bar in the back that's just made to grab and you can just throw it around.

02:00:50.000 But when it's set up in a room, it looks substantial and it looks comfortable, but super lightweight.

02:00:55.000 So their idea was, like, to be super modular and Really easy to move for company.

02:01:00.000 Is this it right here?

02:01:01.000 That's not quite it.

02:01:03.000 I just typed in furniture.

02:01:04.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:07.000 What was his name?

02:01:08.000 Finn Jewel.

02:01:09.000 Spell that out.

02:01:10.000 F-I-N-N, yeah. 0.70

02:01:11.000 Jewel.

02:01:11.000 Maybe J-U-H-L. Yeah, like that orange one.

02:01:18.000 Right there?

02:01:18.000 Yeah.

02:01:19.000 That's like one design.

02:01:21.000 But that one has that extra thing.

02:01:23.000 That's not how mine are.

02:01:24.000 Mine are just like...

02:01:25.000 It's just a back...

02:01:28.000 No arms, but the same shape.

02:01:30.000 And you sit in them and they're just great.

02:01:33.000 They're like firm, but comfortable.

02:01:35.000 Like you feel active, like you could get out of it if you needed to.

02:01:38.000 Is that right there?

02:01:40.000 No.

02:01:43.000 What does it say at the top?

02:01:45.000 That's just it.

02:01:46.000 F-I-N-J-U-H-L. Maybe try classic or something like that.

02:01:50.000 It's cool looking stuff though.

02:01:51.000 Yeah, it's...

02:01:52.000 Look at the grasshopper chair.

02:01:55.000 It's so weird when you have a chair that's that low to the ground.

02:01:58.000 That's too low.

02:01:59.000 Mine are not like that.

02:01:59.000 The good thing is you can keep your feet in front of you.

02:02:02.000 Yeah, like the...

02:02:03.000 Stretch your legs out.

02:02:04.000 Like that 109 chair, like that kind of stuff.

02:02:07.000 So it's like normal chair height, but it's beautifully designed, but it's minimal.

02:02:12.000 And for my living room, like I like the idea that I could just like move my furniture and if people want to dance or whatever, you can just do that. 0.99

02:02:19.000 And you don't have to be, oh, fuck, you know. 0.98

02:02:21.000 Hey, we don't need help. 0.99

02:02:22.000 Like one person could literally grab both chairs and move them.

02:02:24.000 Right. 0.99

02:02:24.000 And you don't have some bullshit sitting there that could break... 0.99

02:02:28.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:02:29.000 Careful.

02:02:29.000 Yeah, totally.

02:02:30.000 Hey, guys.

02:02:30.000 Don't go near the end table.

02:02:31.000 Guys, I'm really sorry about that.

02:02:33.000 Hey.

02:02:33.000 Easy.

02:02:34.000 Easy with the end table.

02:02:34.000 Hey, hey, [...

02:02:36.000 Rock and roll music's got everybody crazy.

02:02:38.000 Jesus, Eric.

02:02:39.000 All these fancy speakers.

02:02:40.000 I told you, Ibiza chill-out mixes only.

02:02:43.000 Yeah, you need a chill-out mix for late night.

02:02:46.000 Or, like, really groovy Jobim stuff, you know, those, like, Brazilian Bossa Nova.

02:02:53.000 What are your thoughts on, like, streaming services?

02:02:55.000 Yeah.

02:02:56.000 Like music?

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 Like Tidal and stuff like that?

02:02:59.000 Well, things like Spotify and Pandora, Apple Music, these streaming services.

02:03:04.000 I think they're convenient, but I don't quite trust the quality yet.

02:03:09.000 And I have a lot invested in iTunes, but I started using Tidal only because it seems to be the least popular of all the streaming services.

02:03:21.000 But it's Jay-Z's company.

02:03:23.000 Mm-hmm.

02:03:24.000 And not that I'm like a Jay-Z fan.

02:03:27.000 I just like that it's owned by an artist.

02:03:29.000 And that they focus on super high-end codecs for their streaming.

02:03:34.000 So it's like the highest quality possible for streaming.

02:03:38.000 Since then, Spotify claims to have it.

02:03:40.000 I don't think Apple does it yet.

02:03:42.000 Anyways, but I like the title.

02:03:44.000 So, I mean, I guess the idea being as long as it's fair for the artist, you know, the deal for streaming and how streaming is calculated and how that turns into revenue on the revenue side of things, that's really important.

02:03:57.000 That's the biggest concern is the revenue side of things.

02:03:58.000 It seems like this whole thing was like the Wild Wild West when it got started and the way the parameters were established, it's not in favor of the artist.

02:04:07.000 Right.

02:04:07.000 It's in favor of the people that run the streaming companies.

02:04:09.000 They're the ones who make the substantial profits.

02:04:12.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:04:14.000 Yeah, the companies do.

02:04:15.000 But all they have is the work of artists.

02:04:17.000 I know.

02:04:17.000 Which is why it's so crazy that they make most of the money because they provide a platform.

02:04:22.000 Yes.

02:04:22.000 All they have...

02:04:24.000 You don't sell shit without artists. 1.00

02:04:25.000 If every artist is like, nah, fuck you, then you don't have anything. 1.00

02:04:29.000 Yeah, you have nothing. 1.00

02:04:29.000 You don't sell anything. 1.00

02:04:31.000 You're selling tomatoes and you don't even grow them.

02:04:34.000 And you want most of the money. 0.93

02:04:35.000 If you were a tomato store and you got your tomatoes from a farmer and the farmer would do all this fucking work to make the tomatoes and they sold them at your store but you got almost all the money. 0.95

02:04:46.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:04:47.000 That would be crazy.

02:04:47.000 I know.

02:04:48.000 It's totally crazy.

02:04:48.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:04:49.000 And then you couldn't grow tomatoes with any other farmer for the next 10 years afterwards.

02:04:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:04:53.000 That's right.

02:04:54.000 Yeah, because they tie you up.

02:04:55.000 Yeah.

02:04:55.000 You have to make commercials about these tomatoes, but you have to pay for them.

02:04:58.000 No.

02:04:59.000 It all comes out of your profit, not ours. 1.00

02:05:01.000 Yeah, fuck that. 1.00

02:05:02.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:05:03.000 It's all about direct economy.

02:05:05.000 You know what I mean?

02:05:06.000 Like, that's the way.

02:05:07.000 That's where we are now, I think.

02:05:08.000 Yeah, I think that's where we are, where we're headed.

02:05:11.000 I think that's definitely...

02:05:12.000 I don't, you know, I can barely...

02:05:15.000 That's why I want to kind of do my own streaming stuff like that.

02:05:17.000 I don't want to be tied up with another company that utilizes behavioral statistical data to increase their algorithms for targeted advertising.

02:05:28.000 Like, that's not really interesting to me.

02:05:31.000 Yeah, I think with a guy like you too, just build it and they will come.

02:05:34.000 And then advertisers who resonate with your sort of mindset, they'll find you.

02:05:40.000 There's plenty of cool CBD brands and fill in the blank of cool companies that'd be more than happy to advertise on something that you'd have a guaranteed audience of a certain kind of people.

02:05:51.000 Yes, totally, totally.

02:05:53.000 I think it's great and I think also...

02:05:55.000 Just having a direct store, too.

02:05:57.000 I love the idea of whatever I make, it's just sold to the store.

02:06:02.000 You're just paying me, and I'm getting it, and you're getting the thing, and that's it.

02:06:05.000 Yeah, I mean, you've worked for a bunch of different companies before, done things.

02:06:09.000 It's like, it can be great.

02:06:10.000 You can work with a bunch of wonderful people, or it can be a disaster. 0.86

02:06:14.000 You got some time suck in the middle of the fucking mix, and they just demand too much attention, there's too much conflict and nonsense, and interpersonal drama, and sometimes people start... 0.93

02:06:27.000 Oh, yes. 0.99

02:06:28.000 People that work together start fucking, and then you have to hear the opinions of both of them while you pretend that you don't know that they're fucking, that this is weighing heavily on the way they're communicating with everybody else. 0.99

02:06:39.000 Like, ugh. 0.99

02:06:40.000 Yeah, that's...

02:06:41.000 Supporting each other, and you're supposed to support them, too.

02:06:43.000 Now their relationship has become center stage in your office.

02:06:46.000 That's one of the reasons why people don't want office romances. 1.00

02:06:49.000 Not even just because women don't want to be harassed by men that are trying to fuck them all the time, so just say no one can do it. 0.92

02:06:56.000 But also because once a relationship does happen, one of two things, either it'll go great... 0.63

02:07:02.000 Yeah, either it'll go great and everyone's going to be a part of it, so your relationship becomes a part of the whole ecosystem of the office.

02:07:09.000 Or it'll go terrible and people have to pick sides and or one of you has to leave.

02:07:16.000 Bad juju.

02:07:18.000 Or if you're amongst the most miraculous people, you have an amicable split and you become really good friends afterwards, you still work together with no problems, you even like each other's spouses.

02:07:27.000 Yeah, right.

02:07:28.000 That's possible.

02:07:28.000 It is possible.

02:07:29.000 It is possible.

02:07:30.000 It's happened.

02:07:30.000 I'm sure it's happened.

02:07:31.000 Yes, but much, much more rare.

02:07:33.000 Much more rare.

02:07:35.000 If I was running a company, I'd be like, listen, you guys can't bang each other. 0.90

02:07:38.000 I know it sounds gross.

02:07:40.000 I know that you're here all day, but the problem is like, what if you met the girl of your dreams on a job that was your dream job? 0.99

02:07:47.000 You're like, shit, what do you do? 0.99

02:07:49.000 You have to make the decision. 1.00

02:07:50.000 This is like a fucking Jennifer Lopez movie. 1.00

02:07:53.000 Right? 1.00

02:07:53.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

02:07:55.000 It's called Too Successful. 0.98

02:07:56.000 I don't give a fuck about this job, Jennifer. 0.97

02:07:58.000 I want to be with you. 0.99

02:08:00.000 Play the music.

02:08:01.000 It's like, no, you don't have to quit.

02:08:03.000 I'll quit. 1.00

02:08:03.000 Yeah, fuck this. 1.00

02:08:04.000 But I've got to quit. 1.00

02:08:05.000 No, you can't.

02:08:06.000 And then they decide to start their own firm.

02:08:07.000 Yeah, if it was a real chick movie, the girl would have the smaller paycheck, too. 1.00

02:08:13.000 And the guy would lose the bigger paycheck.

02:08:15.000 She would come home from work, and he would be wearing an apron, and he would be mopping.

02:08:23.000 Yes.

02:08:24.000 That'd be great.

02:08:25.000 Well, I guess I should get used to it.

02:08:28.000 Like, that's how it is.

02:08:29.000 It's my life now.

02:08:31.000 I fell in love with the perfect job.

02:08:33.000 I gave up my perfect job for the perfect woman. 1.00

02:08:36.000 Yeah.

02:08:37.000 Yeah, that would suck. 0.99

02:08:39.000 If you had the dream job, but you met a girl there, she was single and she was into you, and you're both into each other, and you're like, God damn it. 0.99

02:08:46.000 What do you do? 0.97

02:08:47.000 You start banging and don't tell anybody.

02:08:48.000 That's what you do, right?

02:08:49.000 Probably.

02:08:50.000 Or if you're like super pro and super committed, you just figure out a way not to and just kind of...

02:08:56.000 Maybe come up with an agreement or something.

02:08:58.000 I don't know.

02:08:58.000 Plot your exit.

02:09:00.000 Yes.

02:09:00.000 You gotta plot your exit.

02:09:01.000 Always know your exits.

02:09:02.000 While you're lying about banging each other.

02:09:04.000 Yes.

02:09:05.000 Yeah, you gotta lie.

02:09:06.000 Gotta lie and say, yeah, I'm going to the movies tonight with my friend Melissa. 0.99

02:09:10.000 Meanwhile, you're going to Todd's house for some dick. 1.00

02:09:13.000 That sucks. 1.00

02:09:14.000 That's such a terrible way to live, guys. 1.00

02:09:16.000 Don't do it.

02:09:17.000 It's not worth it.

02:09:19.000 Well, the most terrible is probably living in the closet.

02:09:21.000 That's probably the most terrible.

02:09:23.000 It's a super unnecessary one, I think.

02:09:26.000 Yeah.

02:09:26.000 Well, in some cases, not at all.

02:09:28.000 Yeah.

02:09:29.000 Well, it's also like, it's symbolic of, you know, we all have things in a closet.

02:09:34.000 I mean, that's like a pretty big level that's noticeable by many, many people.

02:09:39.000 But in a way, it is a metaphor for, like, there are a lot of things that we don't allow ourselves to.

02:09:43.000 Sure.

02:09:44.000 Like, let people know about and...

02:09:47.000 Well, especially in the corporate world, right?

02:09:48.000 You're forced to present a, air quotes, professional image, and this enhances your ability to earn a living.

02:09:56.000 It enhances your ability to be successful inside that corporate structure. 0.99

02:09:59.000 So you literally have to play a role all the time, which is why if you talk to women who are dominatrixes, one of the things that they say is that the guys who really like to get kicked in the balls and shit on are the guys who run businesses. 0.99

02:10:10.000 The guys who are like... 0.99

02:10:12.000 Yeah, they need to feel it.

02:10:13.000 That's funny.

02:10:13.000 They need to feel alive!

02:10:15.000 They need a kick in the balls. 1.00

02:10:16.000 They need someone pissing in their mouth. 1.00

02:10:18.000 They need to get smacked. 1.00

02:10:20.000 They want to get crazy because they're so buttoned down all day long. 0.98

02:10:24.000 They can barely take it.

02:10:27.000 You're so lucky, Reggie.

02:10:28.000 You're so lucky you're an artist. 1.00

02:10:30.000 You're so lucky, son of a bitch. 1.00

02:10:32.000 I love it. 1.00

02:10:33.000 Someone's in a cubicle right now mad at you. 1.00

02:10:34.000 Fuck him! 1.00

02:10:36.000 No, man. 1.00

02:10:36.000 You guys can live your dreams. 1.00

02:10:39.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:10:41.000 You're harassing people about credit card loans.

02:10:43.000 Yeah, I know.

02:10:45.000 Well, you know, more of us could be more creative, but we're not really designing a society to support that.

02:10:51.000 Yeah, you and I can't fix the streets.

02:10:53.000 We can't fix the streets.

02:10:55.000 No, but we can inspire people to...

02:10:56.000 To fix the streets?

02:10:57.000 Yeah, of course.

02:10:59.000 I mean, you know, sometimes it just takes a little kick in the yarbles.

02:11:02.000 I was having a conversation with my friend the other day.

02:11:05.000 He was saying, you know, you kind of really need all kinds of people because there's all kinds of jobs that you don't want to do.

02:11:11.000 And I was like, yeah, we're having a problem with our exterminator.

02:11:15.000 And I'm like, but could you imagine a dude who's really cool, who's into killing rats?

02:11:20.000 Like, that's what he does for a living. 0.99

02:11:21.000 He just fucks rats up. 1.00

02:11:23.000 That's his whole deal. 1.00

02:11:24.000 He kills rats. 0.92

02:11:25.000 I know.

02:11:25.000 There are people that just sort certain types of screws on an assembly line.

02:11:30.000 All day long.

02:11:30.000 That's what they do.

02:11:31.000 Somebody needs to do that.

02:11:32.000 Otherwise, it's not going to get done.

02:11:33.000 Well, you know, I mean, theoretically, you know, robotics is when people fear, like, robotics taking over jobs and things like that.

02:11:39.000 Yeah.

02:11:40.000 Theoretically, the positive side of that is if societies organize themselves in a way that ensures that people remain productive aside from these automations because it's taking away the menial tasks, the repetitive tasks, then we're able to allocate more brainpower to the economy,

02:11:57.000 if that's the way it's viewed.

02:11:59.000 It's rad.

02:12:00.000 I think it's a welcome thing.

02:12:01.000 And I think, yeah, there's fear of the unknown and things like that.

02:12:05.000 But if the government helps or there's a transition that's at least considered, it could be really, really beneficial.

02:12:12.000 Well, how do you feel about things like universal basic income?

02:12:15.000 How do you feel about that?

02:12:16.000 I mean, that's...

02:12:19.000 Because that's what people are going to need if we get to a point where millions of jobs vanish overnight because of automation, which could happen.

02:12:26.000 You're looking at a, I mean, I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I did, I would say you'd look at a nationwide version of what happened in Detroit when the auto industry backed out.

02:12:36.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

02:12:39.000 I mean, I don't know, like, the universal...

02:12:41.000 I mean, it kind of makes sense, but I also don't know about the successful models and the non-successful implementations because, obviously, with societies, it becomes a lot more complicated because it's people and people are complicated.

02:12:56.000 And so when you say, there's universal income for...

02:13:00.000 There's a base amount that everybody will have.

02:13:02.000 You don't have to worry about certain things, right?

02:13:04.000 Yeah.

02:13:05.000 Well, transitioning out of the current state, the mind state that we're in, some people are just going to try to blow it, you know, all.

02:13:11.000 And then they'll go into debt.

02:13:13.000 And then, you know, maybe.

02:13:15.000 Or maybe you design the system to be really foolproof.

02:13:17.000 And it's just commodities-based.

02:13:19.000 So people can only get the value that they're guaranteed as – You know, rent being paid, actual food, you know, actual things, so they don't have access to the money.

02:13:29.000 I don't know.

02:13:30.000 The problem is, if you don't give them access to the money, you don't give them adequate choices in terms of where they can get their food.

02:13:35.000 Like, I'm not in favor of that, because if you had, like, a government place where they had groceries, you can go get your groceries for free, that place is going to be disgusting.

02:13:42.000 It's not going to be whole food, because there's no competition, you know what I'm saying?

02:13:45.000 Yeah.

02:13:46.000 Well, maybe- There's no incentive for excellence.

02:13:47.000 Well, maybe if it was like a, you know, some kind of a card or something associated, like an Apple Pay type thing.

02:13:52.000 So you just, you go to whatever store you want to.

02:13:54.000 Similar to like a welfare card or a food stamp card.

02:13:56.000 Yeah, like food stamps.

02:13:57.000 Yeah.

02:13:57.000 Exactly.

02:13:58.000 But a little bit more framed differently.

02:14:00.000 Right.

02:14:00.000 Like you'd have an account with the government where every month you'd get like $1,000 cash and $500 in food.

02:14:06.000 Yeah.

02:14:07.000 Like maybe something like that.

02:14:08.000 Yeah.

02:14:08.000 And then there are rewards for like...

02:14:10.000 You know, moving out of that, like phasing out of that.

02:14:13.000 Right.

02:14:14.000 I think the way Andrew Yang has it structured, everyone would get it.

02:14:18.000 You could opt out of it.

02:14:19.000 Like, say, if you were doing well, like yourself, you could opt out of it.

02:14:22.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:14:22.000 Yeah, I like that idea.

02:14:23.000 I do like the everything thing, because as soon as you make something specifically for a certain population, especially when you're talking about that type of thing...

02:14:35.000 It doesn't work.

02:14:36.000 I mean, conceptually, it's just better when everyone knows like, oh, you have it.

02:14:40.000 I have it.

02:14:41.000 There's something that binds all of us that we're all in common.

02:14:44.000 Obviously, this billionaire doesn't need it.

02:14:46.000 But there's just a precedent for people that make a certain amount of money.

02:14:49.000 They're suggested to offset that, like put it back into the system so there's more money for people that need it, whatever.

02:14:56.000 But I think saying it's for everybody is kind of a smart thing to do.

02:14:59.000 I like that everything.

02:15:01.000 Yeah, the idea is that you have equity in the corporation that is the United States of America.

02:15:05.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:15:07.000 Yeah.

02:15:07.000 That's weird.

02:15:08.000 Particularly if you're thinking about natural resources.

02:15:11.000 When you imagine the enormous profits that someone gets from natural resources, like the idea that you own the oil that's under the ground, who's decided that?

02:15:22.000 Why have we decided that you can go a mile off the ocean, stick a fucking tube in the ground, suck out all the oil and make a trillion dollars? 0.81

02:15:30.000 Who said that? 0.99

02:15:31.000 Yeah.

02:16:00.000 They're the ones.

02:16:01.000 Us.

02:16:01.000 So the idea would be that we would all profit from it, and they would make substantially less than they make now.

02:16:08.000 And then instead of these people making billions and billions of dollars for something that's not even theirs, that profit would be split evenly around the country in terms of infrastructure and replenishing impoverished communities and community centers and trying to figure out a way to engineer out all the horrific neighborhoods.

02:16:26.000 Use the natural resources.

02:16:27.000 Yes.

02:16:28.000 I mean, that would be wonderful.

02:16:31.000 They've had to pay some people for fracking.

02:16:33.000 They've had to pay some people off because they just ruined their neighborhood.

02:16:37.000 There's people that live in a place that's fully toxic now.

02:16:40.000 Yes.

02:16:41.000 What do you got, Jamie?

02:16:43.000 I saw this the other day.

02:16:44.000 This is from the original spill in 2004. It's been going on consistently.

02:16:49.000 Oh yeah, it's still leaking.

02:16:50.000 They said the 14-year-old Gulf oil spill is leaking up to 4,500 gallons a day.

02:16:55.000 They found that it was many, many times more oil was leaking out than they thought it was. 0.99

02:17:01.000 So that's still going into the ocean right now from that stupid oil pipeline. 0.99

02:17:07.000 The quicker that someone figures out alternative energy... 0.99

02:17:11.000 That's kind of what I'm saying.

02:17:12.000 It needs to happen. 0.97

02:17:13.000 This is ridiculous. 0.77

02:17:15.000 Everyone's doing the easy thing right now. 0.94

02:17:17.000 And it's just feeding the, again, the capitalist machine.

02:17:23.000 It's just like, no, that's okay.

02:17:25.000 That's acceptable.

02:17:26.000 But you and I have righteous virtue because we drive electric vehicles occasionally.

02:17:29.000 Yeah.

02:17:30.000 That's true.

02:17:31.000 I do feel a little bit better.

02:17:33.000 I feel better than people when I drive my Tesla. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Hmm, you assholes. 1.00

02:17:36.000 They're poisoning the world. 1.00

02:17:37.000 You know, I only feel better driving my Tesla only in that it's just faster.

02:17:44.000 It's just faster than almost everything on the road.

02:17:48.000 Yeah, it's a time machine.

02:17:50.000 That's exactly what I call it.

02:17:51.000 I always say, like, if there's a location that I want to go to, I appear there.

02:17:55.000 Yeah.

02:17:56.000 You just go, zoom, you're over there.

02:17:59.000 And you have the P100D, which is the one I have, which is the two-engine one.

02:18:04.000 It's crazy. 0.61

02:18:05.000 And meanwhile, that fucking new thing that they're coming out with, the Roadster, is going to be a half a second faster, zero to 60. Yeah. 0.98

02:18:12.000 Yeah, it's...

02:18:12.000 How?

02:18:13.000 Well, 1.9...

02:18:14.000 1.8, theoretically.

02:18:16.000 1.8 seconds here to 60. I think he's changed his take on that.

02:18:20.000 I think he recently said it's 2.1.

02:18:22.000 Oh, are you serious?

02:18:23.000 Yes.

02:18:23.000 Okay.

02:18:23.000 People were very disappointed.

02:18:24.000 I'm very disappointed, because you've got to break the two barrier, man. 0.96

02:18:26.000 What kind of nonsense is this?

02:18:28.000 I know. 0.56

02:18:29.000 Where's my point?

02:18:29.000 Where's my tenth of a second?

02:18:30.000 It ain't going to matter, kids. 1.00

02:18:32.000 The fucking thing's ridiculous. 1.00

02:18:34.000 Are you kidding? 1.00

02:18:34.000 It's just a fucking weapon. 1.00

02:18:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:36.000 It's insane.

02:18:37.000 Yeah.

02:18:37.000 Oh, it also has 600 mile range.

02:18:39.000 Yes, that's what I heard, which is just insane to me.

02:18:41.000 I just love that it's a tinier car.

02:18:43.000 It's like the fastest thing ever.

02:18:45.000 There's only going to be maybe three other road legal cars that you could buy that would get to that level.

02:18:51.000 Supercars are going to look obsolete compared to that.

02:18:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:18:54.000 I mean, well, the thing I'm excited about is the Penn and Farina electric car.

02:18:58.000 Ooh, what is that?

02:18:59.000 It's all designed completely in-house, and I don't know when it comes out, but I don't know if you can find a picture of it.

02:19:05.000 It is the nastiest piece of tech.

02:19:08.000 Don't let the Italians make the engine, though. 1.00

02:19:10.000 Trust me.

02:19:11.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

02:19:11.000 I think they're leveraging.

02:19:12.000 Do not let my people design things.

02:19:16.000 You let them design the way it looks, but all the wires, they're barely paying attention. 0.99

02:19:20.000 They're staring at girls' asses, eating spaghetti. 1.00

02:19:24.000 I guarantee you. 1.00

02:19:26.000 That's so funny.

02:19:27.000 That's so true.

02:19:28.000 Germans and Japanese make reliable cars.

02:19:31.000 Yes.

02:19:32.000 They make their engineers.

02:19:34.000 Oh, there it is.

02:19:35.000 Look at that.

02:19:35.000 Woo!

02:19:36.000 Damn! 1.00

02:19:37.000 That is a goddamn Batmobile. 1.00

02:19:39.000 Yeah, she'd be nasty. 1.00

02:19:41.000 Oh, that's a real car?

02:19:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:42.000 When's that coming out?

02:19:43.000 I think orders are happening.

02:19:46.000 There you go.

02:19:46.000 That's it.

02:19:47.000 2.5 million.

02:19:48.000 Jesus Christ.

02:19:50.000 Where's all this money coming from?

02:19:51.000 Active Arrows.

02:19:52.000 How many shakes are there?

02:19:53.000 I mean, come on.

02:19:54.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

02:19:55.000 Look at that fucking thing. 0.99

02:19:56.000 And it borrows a little bit of like Ferrari. 0.99

02:19:58.000 La Ferrari has a little bit of Japanese styling.

02:20:00.000 It has a...

02:20:01.000 It's the perfect blend of all the good things about tech-looking cars.

02:20:07.000 You know what it's like?

02:20:08.000 It's like a Ferrari 488. Yes.

02:20:11.000 But one that fucked a Lexus LFA. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:20:17.000 1900 horsepower.

02:20:19.000 How many Newton pounds of torque?

02:20:22.000 I don't know what I have to say.

02:20:24.000 Whenever they say that, Newton meters.

02:20:26.000 I don't get it.

02:20:27.000 Those European ones, I'm like, what are you saying? 0.96

02:20:29.000 I don't feel it.

02:20:30.000 All I know is what is high, and then I base it off of that.

02:20:33.000 It's funny, too, that we still use horses.

02:20:35.000 I know. 1.00

02:20:36.000 How stupid is that? 1.00

02:20:37.000 Look at that, see? 1.00

02:20:37.000 We use people power. 1.00

02:20:39.000 Less than two seconds.

02:20:40.000 But it's an electric vehicle, and I'm sure Byton has one coming out that looks really cool.

02:20:47.000 It goes 180 miles an hour, 186 miles an hour in 12 seconds, it's said.

02:20:52.000 Jesus Christ.

02:20:53.000 So 12 seconds later, you're going 186 miles an hour.

02:20:56.000 Is that real?

02:20:57.000 Look at that control cockpit.

02:20:59.000 That's what I like about cars like that.

02:21:00.000 It better look amazing. 1.00

02:21:01.000 It's a fucking house in the hills. 1.00

02:21:04.000 You know what? 1.00

02:21:05.000 It's a house in the hills.

02:21:06.000 I'd get it.

02:21:07.000 Wow.

02:21:07.000 If I could, I'd get it.

02:21:09.000 Would you?

02:21:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:10.000 Easily.

02:21:10.000 I definitely want to get the Roadster.

02:21:12.000 I'm thinking about the Roadster. 1.00

02:21:13.000 I'm getting that, bitch. 1.00

02:21:14.000 You got to, man. 1.00

02:21:15.000 Come on.

02:21:15.000 Got to.

02:21:16.000 I mean, it's not that...

02:21:17.000 I mean, for $250,000, you're getting a car that, like, that's a...

02:21:21.000 What was that again?

02:21:22.000 What do you keep showing us, Jamie?

02:21:24.000 You're just flipping through...

02:21:25.000 You don't even pay attention now.

02:21:27.000 Jamie's on a rabbit hole.

02:21:28.000 He went down to YouTube rabbit hole.

02:21:29.000 I want to see what Lotus was doing. 0.93

02:21:31.000 It was right there.

02:21:31.000 What was the other one?

02:21:33.000 Pull the Tesla Robster.

02:21:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:35.000 That thing's badass. 1.00

02:21:36.000 What is the other one?

02:21:37.000 Rimac Concept 2. Oh, I don't know what that one is.

02:21:40.000 I think they're a stone handle for the roadster.

02:21:43.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:21:43.000 You slide your finger down.

02:21:44.000 What?

02:21:45.000 It pops.

02:21:45.000 I mean, who knows?

02:21:46.000 Oh, that's going to leave you stranded in the parking lot.

02:21:48.000 And it's not using that steering wheel.

02:21:50.000 I don't know why they do that.

02:21:51.000 They do that for concept cars.

02:21:53.000 No side view mirrors, which now is actually becoming legal, which is great.

02:21:56.000 Why would they have no side view mirrors?

02:21:58.000 Because it looks sexier.

02:21:59.000 But so what?

02:22:00.000 It looks more sleek.

02:22:00.000 Does it really bother you?

02:22:01.000 That's like if you're a dude and a girl's really hot but she has a chipped tooth. 1.00

02:22:06.000 No, no, no.

02:22:07.000 That makes it better.

02:22:09.000 That's character, man.

02:22:11.000 That's beautiful.

02:22:11.000 So why don't you want side mirrors?

02:22:14.000 Well, see, it just creates a cleaner line. 1.00

02:22:16.000 Fuck a clean line. 0.99

02:22:17.000 I want to see what's going on. 1.00

02:22:19.000 I want to die. 0.82

02:22:19.000 I want to see what's behind me, man. 0.82

02:22:21.000 Well, the new Honda all-electric car that's basically kind of like a Golf, kind of an e-Golf, but it's a fully new car.

02:22:28.000 It's got the camera system with the side-view mirrors.

02:22:31.000 They're just right on the edge of the dash, right where the mirrors kind of would be.

02:22:35.000 And the guy...

02:22:37.000 The guy who was doing a review of it, one of the few guys who's gotten to drive it, said that it just blows you away.

02:22:43.000 You're like, why have a car's been like this forever?

02:22:45.000 Because it gives you an accurate, full-time view of what's going on.

02:22:49.000 And the rearview mirror is also a screen.

02:22:51.000 Maybe that's what Tesla's doing. 1.00

02:22:53.000 So you get no pillars.

02:22:54.000 No pillars.

02:22:55.000 What?

02:22:55.000 What are you laughing at?

02:22:56.000 You're going to make fun of this car.

02:22:57.000 Why am I making fun of?

02:22:58.000 I don't know, have you seen it?

02:22:59.000 No, go back to the Tesla.

02:23:00.000 Look at this.

02:23:02.000 There's only some Honda E. Go back to the Tesla.

02:23:05.000 It's also got the most ridiculous turning radius.

02:23:08.000 It turns tighter than a London cab. 0.88

02:23:11.000 Yeah, because it's got a stick in the ground.

02:23:13.000 Yeah, it just plants a pole in the ground and then it just rotates.

02:23:18.000 Yeah, the Roadster is evil.

02:23:20.000 I don't think it's really going to come out in 2020. I don't think so either.

02:23:23.000 I think it's going to get pushed back.

02:23:25.000 But it's just such a gorgeous...

02:23:27.000 It does have some active aero, I think, in the spoilers active.

02:23:30.000 It's just cool looking.

02:23:31.000 It looks like what a car is supposed to look like in 2020. Exactly.

02:23:35.000 Yes.

02:23:35.000 Reggie Watts, let's wrap this bad boy up.

02:23:37.000 Let's do it.

02:23:38.000 People want to follow you on social media.

02:23:40.000 Is that possible?

02:23:41.000 Only if they want to.

02:23:43.000 And it's at ReggieWatts at Twitter.

02:23:45.000 And Instagram, it's ReggieWatts.

02:23:49.000 And sometimes ReggieWatts.com.

02:23:52.000 That's about it.

02:23:53.000 Dude, we've got to do this more often.

02:23:54.000 For real.

02:23:54.000 Let's do it.

02:23:55.000 Yeah, it's so much fun.

02:23:56.000 It's such a cool journey, man.

02:23:57.000 Really fun.

02:23:58.000 And thanks for the awesome weed, the purple venom.

02:23:59.000 Of course.

02:24:00.000 It's on point.

02:24:01.000 Young Jamie, salute.

02:24:02.000 Goodbye, everybody.

02:24:08.000 Ah, that was good, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 09, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1322 - Reggie Watts

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