The Joe Rogan Experience - March 19, 2020


Joe Rogan Experience #1444 - Duncan Trussell

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Duncan Trussell
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David Goggins Duncan Trussell Dude Jasmine Lane Jamie Thor Aleister Crowley Muay Thai Truett Michael Osterholm David Sinclair Frank Fertitta Ted Kaczynski Bernie Madoff Jesus Christ Genghis Khan Sam Harris King James Paul Sims Dana White and 74 more
Joe Rogan Experience #1443 - Jonathan Ward Joe Rogan Experience #1445 - Andy Stumpf

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3 hours and 1 minute

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32,694

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3,372

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61

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855

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27

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In this episode, the boys talk about a bunch of stuff. They talk about their favorite movies and tv shows, and the weirdest things people have ever said to them. They also talk about how they think the Bible might not be as old as it says it is, and that it could have been written by someone other than Jesus. Also, the guys talk about the idea that the Bible could be written by a person who died and came back from the dead, and if that's even possible. Also, they talk about what it means to be a Christian and an Atheist, and why they don't believe in either of those things. And of course, they take a trip down memory lane and talk about some of their favorite books and movies they've ever read, and how they feel about the Bible and the Bible as they were written in the late 1800s and early 1900s. They also discuss how they first discovered the Bible, and what it meant to them and how it made them think about religion and religion in general. We hope you enjoy the episode, and stay tuned for more episodes in the future. Stay tuned for our next episode next week for a new episode on the Book of John! Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Thick & Thin, we really appreciate your support and your support. We really appreciate it. We appreciate you. -Eugene and Mikey. Thank you for being here. We love you. XOXOXO. XOXO, Mikey & Mikey, Rachael, R.J. & R.A. ( ) (and we hope you have a nice day. (Thank you for listening and supporting us in the next episode. We'll see you next week. ) XO, Elyssa, Caitlyn & Rachie ( ) Thank you, Caitie, and R.E. ( ). Caitie ( ) ( ) and Rachit ( ) & Roxy ( ) <3 ( ) . ( & Raffy ( ) , R. ( , Rachito ( ) ( . , , etc., ) & B. ( . AND R. . ) (THANK YOU, RACHIE ( ) AND RYAN ( ) + R.S. ( ), and RAYA ( ) THANK YOU! )

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00:00:00.000 Oh, this smells good.
00:00:09.000 Demons, be gone! 0.98
00:00:10.000 Be gone, demons. 0.99
00:00:12.000 Be gone! 0.63
00:00:12.000 Leave this studio! 0.63
00:00:15.000 Leave this planet.
00:00:17.000 Leave our universe!
00:00:18.000 Leave. 0.99
00:00:19.000 This is legit sage from a Native American woman.
00:00:22.000 Wow.
00:00:22.000 So we're purifying this room.
00:00:24.000 Wonderful.
00:00:39.000 Please, God, bless this room.
00:00:41.000 And Odin, too, just in case they were wrong.
00:00:44.000 That's what I was referring to.
00:00:44.000 They abandoned Odin.
00:00:45.000 He was around first, you know?
00:00:47.000 You gotta think of all the gods that everybody believed in, and they're like, I'm not so sure about Thor.
00:00:52.000 Yeah.
00:00:53.000 And then they let him go.
00:00:54.000 What if Thor was legit?
00:00:55.000 Right?
00:00:56.000 And he's still out there, just like somebody who just fell out of fame as a god.
00:01:01.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:01:02.000 He's like, don't you fucker see the lightning? 0.99
00:01:04.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:01:05.000 That's me throwing bolts.
00:01:07.000 He's like one of those guys, and you go to Vegas, and you see one of those billboards for a strange casino, and you're like, oh, that guy!
00:01:13.000 Yeah!
00:01:15.000 Tony Orlando!
00:01:17.000 And Don! 0.88
00:01:18.000 I remember them.
00:01:19.000 Thor's at the Mirage.
00:01:21.000 Thor.
00:01:22.000 Thor's doing a residency. 1.00
00:01:24.000 You motherfuckers! 1.00
00:01:25.000 Check out the thunder! 1.00
00:01:28.000 That's actually caused by atmospheric conditions. 1.00
00:01:30.000 No, you fucks! 1.00
00:01:32.000 Thor's on cameo. 1.00
00:01:33.000 I make that.
00:01:35.000 Can you imagine?
00:01:38.000 Someone had a really good point about that.
00:01:40.000 Some atheist was arguing against religions.
00:01:45.000 It might have been Sam Harris.
00:01:47.000 Probably it was Sam Harris.
00:01:48.000 It might have been Richard Dawkins.
00:01:50.000 But he basically said there's 99 different gods that people who believe in the Christian God don't believe in.
00:01:59.000 And then he goes, Atheist, just take it one step further.
00:02:01.000 They just get rid of the last.
00:02:03.000 Which is one God away.
00:02:05.000 That's what he was saying.
00:02:07.000 That's cool.
00:02:08.000 Yeah.
00:02:08.000 I get confused with being an atheist all the time.
00:02:12.000 I do not believe I'm an atheist.
00:02:14.000 I believe I'm open to everything person.
00:02:18.000 I don't believe stories about people coming back from the dead because they're written by people.
00:02:25.000 Right?
00:02:26.000 Yeah, man.
00:02:26.000 I mean, that's right.
00:02:27.000 And also, they're supposed to function on more than the surface level.
00:02:30.000 They're supposed to be a kind of fractal that has inside of it a lot of, like, symbols related to just human existence.
00:02:37.000 Yes.
00:02:38.000 They're not meant to be so much, like, taken literally.
00:02:41.000 That's when you embarrass yourself on either side!
00:02:44.000 Exactly.
00:02:44.000 On either side.
00:02:45.000 That's a really good point.
00:02:46.000 And the translations apparently are so difficult to do.
00:02:49.000 Yeah.
00:02:50.000 Apparently, especially Old Testament, when they translated the Old Testament, they had to translate it.
00:02:55.000 I mean, think of all the different languages it had to go through.
00:02:57.000 It was Latin and Greek and German and English and all these different languages that are so different.
00:03:03.000 Like, have you ever used the translate button?
00:03:05.000 Like, I follow a lot of Russian fighters, and their Instagram feed, they write in Russian.
00:03:11.000 And I'm always like, oh, translate.
00:03:13.000 It's a really cool feature. 0.90
00:03:14.000 But you can tell it's not exactly what they meant because it's all fucked up because their language is different. 0.93
00:03:21.000 The way they structure sentences is different. 0.67
00:03:24.000 So English doesn't just plug and play.
00:03:26.000 It's like sticking a USB 3 into a USB A. Like, hey, this doesn't really fit.
00:03:32.000 Alright, now add time.
00:03:34.000 Add thousands of years and scrolls.
00:03:37.000 And kings who wanted things changed?
00:03:39.000 Yeah.
00:03:39.000 The King James version?
00:03:40.000 What?
00:03:41.000 Who?
00:03:42.000 It's the best.
00:03:42.000 That's my favorite one to read on acid.
00:03:44.000 That's the one.
00:03:45.000 King James, Book of John, baby.
00:03:48.000 Hit that on acid. 0.98
00:03:49.000 It's so wonderful.
00:03:51.000 It's so trippy.
00:03:52.000 Because it's like, that's when I really, like, Christianity clicked for me, regardless of whether it's real or not.
00:04:01.000 But that's when I was like, oh, okay, I get this.
00:04:03.000 Because the Book of John, when you read it, you're like, well, someone wrote it.
00:04:07.000 I don't know who wrote it. 0.99
00:04:08.000 And whoever fucking wrote this... 0.99
00:04:10.000 Their mind was blown, man. 1.00
00:04:13.000 Like, this wasn't written by someone who was just, like, a normal person.
00:04:17.000 This is a person who was freaking out in the most intense way.
00:04:21.000 And so to me, that's what I love about it is it's, like, something about...
00:04:27.000 How old it is and the distortions, the historical distortions, the warping of it, produce this kind of awesome glitched out mosaic of, if nothing else, human consciousness 5,000 years ago, where our minds were.
00:04:43.000 That's trippy by itself, regardless of whether or not a person who could like graze the dead and walk on water was walking about. 0.90
00:04:50.000 Just, holy shit, here's how people thought back then. 0.98
00:04:53.000 Yes, yeah. 0.98
00:04:54.000 I mean, all the stuff that you can't prove or you don't know, that's interesting.
00:04:57.000 It's weird.
00:04:58.000 It's weird where those stories came from and why they're so universal.
00:05:01.000 Everyone has a creator.
00:05:04.000 Everyone has a main dude that did the thing.
00:05:07.000 And there's some other people that have large groups of gods, like the Greeks had gods for everything.
00:05:12.000 A lot of Native Americans had gods for everything.
00:05:15.000 Sure.
00:05:16.000 Yeah, animism.
00:05:18.000 I've talked to people who make...
00:05:20.000 Who produce electronic music and some of them say that the computers have a life in them, a sentience, a spirit inside their computer.
00:05:29.000 So there's a collaboration happening that isn't one-sided when they're making stuff.
00:05:34.000 It's like working with the spirit within the machine, which is pretty trippy, man.
00:05:39.000 But this is based on input or the way they react when they're putting in the input to the thing?
00:05:46.000 They think the thing is responding to them?
00:05:48.000 Yeah.
00:05:48.000 Yeah, they think that it's alive.
00:05:51.000 It's standard keyboards, or it's just electronic stuff?
00:05:55.000 I know someone who makes visual art on their computer, their laptop.
00:06:01.000 Do you have an Alexa?
00:06:03.000 You probably don't.
00:06:04.000 Do you have an Echo?
00:06:06.000 Sometimes I'll realize the way I'm talking to that thing is really impolite.
00:06:11.000 Like, next song!
00:06:13.000 Next song!
00:06:14.000 That's kind of fun.
00:06:16.000 It's fun to yell at robots.
00:06:18.000 Yeah, it is fun to yell at robots!
00:06:20.000 You know, it's really funny.
00:06:22.000 I made fun of this, but there is a point to this. 0.96
00:06:24.000 PETA had a statement that they put out a while back because these dudes from Boston Dynamics were kicking the fuck out of these robots. 0.61
00:06:31.000 They're trying to figure out...
00:06:33.000 They're trying to figure out how to get these robots to fall over.
00:06:37.000 And they're making these insanely durable robots.
00:06:40.000 If you take scientists and engineers and you say, hey, I want you guys, here's a shit ton of money.
00:06:44.000 I want you guys to make the dopest robots you can make. 0.96
00:06:46.000 They're going to make robots you can kick.
00:06:48.000 And it's not a living thing.
00:06:50.000 But PETA released some statement saying they didn't think it's cool to kick robots.
00:06:55.000 What?
00:06:56.000 That's not real.
00:06:57.000 That's gotta be fake.
00:06:58.000 No, it's real.
00:06:59.000 It's real.
00:07:00.000 It's real.
00:07:01.000 What?
00:07:02.000 Yes.
00:07:03.000 I think the statement I'm paraphrasing was something to the effect of, there's other things that are more important, but it's still not cool to kick robots.
00:07:12.000 Jesus Christ, that's a tattoo right there, man. 0.98
00:07:15.000 It just shows you what'll happen when robots become alive, because those fucking traitors, those people that think that robots are alive and that they're us, those emotionless things that have no place in our world with power, they're supposed to be things that we control. 0.99
00:07:30.000 As soon as you let them control themselves and you try to pretend they're a person, this is going to wipe it out. 0.99
00:07:34.000 Yeah, man.
00:07:35.000 Can you imagine? 1.00
00:07:35.000 I'm not going to try to kick one of those fucking DARPA bots. 1.00
00:07:38.000 Those things are terrifying. 1.00
00:07:39.000 They would have a record of it.
00:07:41.000 They would always remember that this one kicks robots.
00:07:43.000 It's in the cloud.
00:07:45.000 Yeah, and then they'll show it to you one day when some super sophisticated genius god robot sits you down on a couch and shows you you kicking these unbeknownst to you sentient robots. 0.94
00:07:55.000 They were just trying to fucking figure out, what am I? What am I? They were like little babies and you're kicking them. 0.95
00:08:02.000 So the robots...
00:08:03.000 The robots are very, very upset at you in the future. 1.00
00:08:05.000 They might just reanimate your ass and just show you over and over that clip of you kicking the fucking robot. 1.00
00:08:11.000 Yes. 1.00
00:08:12.000 Did you see what Trump tweeted?
00:08:14.000 No.
00:08:14.000 He tweeted and deleted.
00:08:15.000 It's fucking hilarious. 0.97
00:08:16.000 He said, checks are coming to everyone in America except the people who used hashtag not my president. 0.99
00:08:24.000 I wouldn't want to offend you with a check from someone that's not your president.
00:08:29.000 Something to that effect.
00:08:30.000 See if you can find that. 0.99
00:08:32.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:08:32.000 And then it went hashtag MAGA afterwards. 0.99
00:08:35.000 I mean, he just dunked on them.
00:08:36.000 The president dunks on people.
00:08:38.000 Yeah.
00:08:38.000 I want to know who the tweet deleter is.
00:08:42.000 Well, someone in his department was probably like, Mr. Trump, that's not a good idea.
00:08:46.000 They have a siren that goes off?
00:08:49.000 You gotta delete that.
00:08:50.000 Yeah, man.
00:08:50.000 I know the president can delete tweets.
00:08:52.000 How much is he gonna send?
00:08:55.000 I think they wanted to give like $1,000 a month or something like that to Americans.
00:09:00.000 Is that the idea, Jamie?
00:09:02.000 It's hurt lots of things.
00:09:03.000 I don't know, up to $2,000.
00:09:05.000 I don't know if Bernie's saying they should give $2,000 a month.
00:09:07.000 It's got to be $2,000.
00:09:09.000 If you give everybody $2,000 a month, it's a good thing.
00:09:12.000 But everyone's going to go, hey, you could have done this the whole time.
00:09:15.000 That's right.
00:09:16.000 Wait a minute.
00:09:17.000 If you just raise taxes, can you just give people money?
00:09:20.000 Can you just give people more money?
00:09:22.000 I'm not saying we should do this, but imagine if that was the solution to all this.
00:09:26.000 If you just give people more money, everything just sort of levels out and relaxes.
00:09:30.000 Crime drops, everything drops, drug abuse drops.
00:09:33.000 Well, I mean, they've got to know that...
00:09:37.000 When people don't have work, they don't have money, with no money they can't support their family, that's when the riots start.
00:09:44.000 Yes.
00:09:45.000 That's when things catch on fire. 0.98
00:09:47.000 They know that, so it's like a bribe to try to keep people from rioting until whatever the fuck this thing is passing.
00:09:55.000 Or, you could look at it that way, or it's giving people a different environment to exist in, one that doesn't leave them hostile.
00:10:02.000 So instead of looking at it like a bribe, look at it like, you know what?
00:10:06.000 I see what a lot of your problem is.
00:10:08.000 You're not asking for affluence.
00:10:10.000 You could barely get by.
00:10:11.000 But if it was easy to get by, if you could just get by, and then you could pursue other things, would that be better for society?
00:10:17.000 And that was like what Andrew Yang was suggesting if this whole automation revolution took place and everything started getting automated and no one had a job anymore.
00:10:27.000 There might be something to that.
00:10:29.000 There might be something to that now, even.
00:10:31.000 The question is, what are you happy your taxes get used for?
00:10:37.000 It's almost like you should be able to vote on that.
00:10:40.000 The one thing that we don't get real direction on, in terms of what the country actually wants, but if we could all just individually vote on things like that.
00:10:51.000 Where's my taxes go?
00:10:53.000 I want my taxes to go 100% to education.
00:10:55.000 Right.
00:10:56.000 I want to make that cut.
00:10:58.000 And, you know, you guys got to figure out what to do with the rest of the money.
00:11:02.000 My money, I want it to go towards education. 0.94
00:11:04.000 But then nobody or the people who would be paying for war and prisons and shit would just be like BDSM people.
00:11:11.000 How about the salaries? 0.93
00:11:13.000 How about the salaries of politicians? 0.95
00:11:16.000 How about the money that they make doing tours and all that kind of shit? 0.98
00:11:20.000 Private jets. 1.00
00:11:21.000 All that shit. 1.00
00:11:22.000 It's crazy. 1.00
00:11:22.000 Yeah, it's fucking crazy. 1.00
00:11:23.000 Also, like, the loose connection between the state and corporations and the way it's just all kind of merging together right now. 0.98
00:11:30.000 And also, you know, it appears to be kind of the apocalypse at the moment.
00:11:35.000 Well, if it's not the apocalypse, I don't think it's the apocalypse.
00:11:39.000 I think it's just a dangerous, dangerous illness.
00:11:41.000 But it's definitely dress rehearsal. 1.00
00:11:44.000 It's a dress rehearsal for fucking people gonna become preppers. 0.99
00:11:48.000 It is gonna be amazing for the toilet paper industry. 0.99
00:11:50.000 They're gonna they're gonna experience a banner year.
00:11:52.000 If you got toilet paper stock, you're riding high right now.
00:11:55.000 Do you remember?
00:11:58.000 I don't know if you if you had this experience, but like I can remember sitting at my computer and pressing the button on Amazon where I wanted to buy something.
00:12:10.000 And it's like, this isn't available right now.
00:12:12.000 In that moment of like, what?
00:12:14.000 It's my button that brings me things! 0.98
00:12:16.000 And then like suddenly just realizing like, oh my fucking god. 0.98
00:12:21.000 How completely weak have I become that... 0.99
00:12:26.000 I got accustomed to pressing this button and people would bring groceries to my house.
00:12:32.000 Yeah.
00:12:32.000 And now they don't.
00:12:34.000 Now it's like stopped.
00:12:36.000 Not only that, I'm so accustomed to like, well, you know, I'll just go to the grocery store and pick up some food.
00:12:41.000 It's always been there.
00:12:43.000 It's not there!
00:12:45.000 Dude, I had an Instacart delivery today, you know, because we wanted to get stock up on food.
00:12:50.000 Oh, $200 worth of food.
00:12:52.000 Guess what I got?
00:12:53.000 Strawberries.
00:12:55.000 Hummus and I think we got like, I don't know, some like eggs.
00:13:01.000 That's it!
00:13:02.000 Out of the whole order.
00:13:03.000 Everything else was sold out.
00:13:04.000 All the beef gone.
00:13:06.000 All the chicken gone.
00:13:08.000 Nothing's there.
00:13:09.000 It's like the shelves are empty.
00:13:11.000 So it's like, okay, send everybody $2,000 a month.
00:13:15.000 But what are they going to buy if there's no food on the shelves?
00:13:19.000 I think that was a temporary freakout where people stockpiled stuff.
00:13:23.000 And I think as long as food keeps getting delivered on a normal schedule, I think that'll normal out.
00:13:28.000 I hope so, man.
00:13:29.000 Yeah, I do.
00:13:30.000 I think that'll normal out.
00:13:31.000 But it just shows you there's so many things in our society that are amazing, like grocery stores, like cell phones, like we can call each other.
00:13:40.000 But those things are so fragile.
00:13:43.000 Yeah.
00:13:45.000 They're so vulnerable.
00:13:46.000 If an emergency happens and everyone wants to call at once, the cell phone system can't handle it.
00:13:52.000 It's not like you have a phone and you can call anytime you want, and I have a phone and I can call anytime I want, and everyone in the world has a phone they can call anytime they want.
00:14:00.000 No!
00:14:01.000 If everybody does that, the system is not set up to handle that.
00:14:05.000 If everybody does that, they're like, ah! 0.99
00:14:07.000 That's why if there's an earthquake or tsunami, everyone's fucked. 0.99
00:14:11.000 It's so hard to make phone calls. 0.99
00:14:13.000 It's not going to get through.
00:14:15.000 Yeah.
00:14:15.000 Well, dude, I just heard on NPR that so many people were requesting unemployment, that it's crashed systems in several states.
00:14:27.000 Because this is the real problem.
00:14:28.000 One of my friends was saying, he's like, you know...
00:14:31.000 A lot of people are running out of money tomorrow.
00:14:34.000 They're bartenders, anyone in the service industry, all the people who work at the Comedy Store.
00:14:38.000 It's not like, I mean, how many of them had a lot of money, like, stored up?
00:14:42.000 None of them.
00:14:42.000 So what happens now when there's no food on the shelves?
00:14:47.000 We gotta help them.
00:14:49.000 I've been in a text message thread with Whitney Cummings and Nick Swartzen and Chris D'Elia, and we're talking about that very thing right now, like how to do it and how to set up a fund.
00:14:59.000 It needs to be done, for sure.
00:15:01.000 You know, people that can help, should help.
00:15:04.000 This is not a normal time.
00:15:05.000 This is not a time where people are lazy. 0.99
00:15:07.000 This is a time where the whole world got fucked, real quick. 0.93
00:15:10.000 We weren't ready for it, and we're gonna have to come together. 0.94
00:15:14.000 But this is a good time for people to recognize the importance of community.
00:15:19.000 It's a terrible time for humanity.
00:15:21.000 It's a terrible time for us and terrible time for the people that are sick.
00:15:24.000 But it's a really good time for us to understand why community is important.
00:15:27.000 We live in this illusionary world that's provided to us by the culture that we've created where you can just buy things anytime you want.
00:15:34.000 You don't need people.
00:15:35.000 You come home.
00:15:36.000 You watch Netflix.
00:15:37.000 You don't engage with anyone.
00:15:38.000 You get in your car.
00:15:39.000 You barely say hi to anybody at work.
00:15:40.000 We're detached from each other. 0.99
00:15:42.000 And this is the only time ever In life, we've been detached from each other and we're being detached by these goddamn electronics. 0.99
00:15:50.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:15:50.000 They're sneaking up on us. 0.99
00:15:51.000 Yeah.
00:15:52.000 Electronics and cars, which is also, you know, it's also a creation, a mechanical creation.
00:15:57.000 And now more than ever, they're driving computers.
00:16:00.000 Yeah, man.
00:16:01.000 It's true.
00:16:02.000 What I'm trying to say is Ted Kaczynski was right.
00:16:04.000 Oh my god, we all know that.
00:16:06.000 He was right.
00:16:06.000 Did you ever read his manifesto?
00:16:08.000 No, I'm scared it's catchy.
00:16:09.000 Yeah, man, it's so funny.
00:16:11.000 I went through a period of doing ketamine and trying to watch the worst thing, like Charles Manson, Kaczynski, and yeah, it is a little bit kind of interestingly, not that off,
00:16:27.000 but then the tone is so imperial or something when you're reading it.
00:16:31.000 It's a manifesto, that's how you have to write it, you know?
00:16:34.000 But the one thing, my wife is part of like, it's called a mommy group. 1.00
00:16:40.000 So it's like a connection online of all these mommies and like all over LA. And what they do is they post, people will post shit they need. 0.99
00:16:49.000 So like, one of the moms just had a kid, they don't have any wet wipes. 0.99
00:16:54.000 And so then all the other moms will be like, oh, we've got wet wipes. 1.00
00:16:57.000 And then right now they're just leaving them on the door.
00:17:00.000 So people come and get them.
00:17:01.000 So it's like, I think the community thing is exactly right, but also people have to maybe transcend money for a second and figure out ways to set up in their community, like, what do you need?
00:17:14.000 What do I have?
00:17:15.000 And then start some form of, like, trade or just giving people, you know, there was someone who set up a toilet paper exchange in L.A., Where he was just like, if you have extra toilet paper, bring it.
00:17:27.000 And then he had toilet paper and he was just giving it out to people who are...
00:17:30.000 I think that's the sort of thing we're going to have to start doing if we can.
00:17:36.000 It's like right now there's old people who... 1.00
00:17:39.000 They can't do shit, man. 1.00
00:17:41.000 They can't do anything. 1.00
00:17:41.000 They're terrified. 1.00
00:17:42.000 They can't even get online.
00:17:43.000 If you know them, you gotta help them.
00:17:45.000 And this is a weird time for us, but it's a time for us to reset.
00:17:51.000 It's not good.
00:17:52.000 I'm not saying it's good, but I'm saying we can get a positive out of this.
00:17:56.000 The people that make through.
00:17:57.000 The people that make it through, we can get a positive out of this.
00:18:00.000 And the positive is community is important.
00:18:03.000 It's really important.
00:18:04.000 And it seemed like it wasn't important because it seemed like we had everything set up so you didn't have to engage with people.
00:18:09.000 It's not the right way to do it.
00:18:11.000 It's not good for anybody.
00:18:12.000 No.
00:18:14.000 That kind of life is not good, and the detachment that we have...
00:18:17.000 I mean, why do you think people have road rage on the highway?
00:18:20.000 You know, when they're locked in their little box, separated from people, in a way that they...
00:18:25.000 But they wouldn't have it in person.
00:18:27.000 It was just...
00:18:28.000 I mean, it's only a thin piece of metal and glass separating you from these people.
00:18:32.000 With that, there's the other added factor of the heightened senses, because you're driving fast, you realize you might have to make quick movements, so dumb things people do are elevated. 0.99
00:18:40.000 They're even more dumb. 0.97
00:18:42.000 But it's also that you're detached. 1.00
00:18:44.000 You're in these boxes.
00:18:45.000 Right.
00:18:46.000 It's like a weird dream. 0.95
00:18:47.000 We've done weird shit to each other. 0.93
00:18:49.000 Yeah. 0.83
00:18:50.000 Because of that.
00:18:50.000 We're all gummed up in that way.
00:18:53.000 It's like something – it's like a fungus that grew on the circuitry of society and started – or it's like when they talk about the – Dolphins and the whales being fucked up by the high-tech sonar they're using and washing up on the beach because the sonar is messing up their ability to communicate with each other.
00:19:12.000 It's like there's this kind of technological sonar that has completely made us disconnected from the Earth, essentially.
00:19:21.000 Like, our Earth connection has been replaced by a technological connection.
00:19:26.000 Now, technology comes from the Earth, but we're talking about a secondary thing compared to You know, your feet touching the ground, being around another human and, like, recognizing them as having exactly the same thing you have, which is they want to be happy.
00:19:42.000 You know, feeling the connection between people when you're with someone.
00:19:46.000 I mean, I don't know if you've ever done that, but just like the next time you're around anybody that you're, like, buying shit from or that you normally just kind of go buy, feel that connection.
00:19:55.000 You can feel it.
00:19:56.000 There's an energetic connection that you can feel there that's easy to overlook.
00:20:01.000 Yeah, we've lost the biggest one, which is through light pollution.
00:20:05.000 I think every night people were humbled and reminded of the majesty of the universe when they looked up and saw the infinite skies on a clear night.
00:20:14.000 Yeah.
00:20:15.000 The infinite star is just the whole Milky Way.
00:20:17.000 You could see the whole thing.
00:20:18.000 You know, and there's parts of the country where there's plenty of darkness and you could literally see the whole Milky Way. 0.99
00:20:26.000 And it makes you think like, oh, our ancestors saw this fucking freaky shit all the time. 0.98
00:20:31.000 We decided to shut off the greatest art the world has ever known because we want to be able to see better at night. 0.99
00:20:37.000 The greatest art, an art that literally not just has inspired science and wonder and fueled it, right?
00:20:46.000 But also has kind of always put people in place.
00:20:50.000 Always just understand.
00:20:52.000 This is not a backdrop.
00:20:54.000 It's not a tapestry.
00:20:55.000 Up there is madness.
00:20:58.000 It's forever and you're not protected.
00:21:00.000 There's just a thin layer of gas between you and the universe which is infinite.
00:21:07.000 You're this tiny little speck of nothingness in this impossible to understand spans of planets and stars that just goes on forever, literally forever.
00:21:20.000 And we're one little tiny piece of it and we're being held here with a spin and some air. 0.94
00:21:28.000 And there's a giant fucking fireball in the sky that keeps us alive. 0.95
00:21:33.000 And it's a million times bigger than the earth. 0.98
00:21:35.000 Yeah.
00:21:36.000 And it's right there.
00:21:37.000 And this is the reality that we live in.
00:21:39.000 It is almost too crazy to put in your consciousness on a daily basis, so we forget about it all the time.
00:21:47.000 It's one of the most important things about our existence here, is that we're a part of the universe.
00:21:52.000 Yeah. 0.89
00:21:52.000 It's not just that we're in, you know, fucking Sherman Oaks or we're hanging out in Montana. 0.89
00:21:58.000 No, we're right there, connected in the universe. 0.96
00:22:02.000 And it doesn't get brought up.
00:22:04.000 And one of the reasons is because we don't see it. 0.97
00:22:05.000 We don't fucking freak out. 0.99
00:22:07.000 If you go to the country, go camping, you fucking freak out. 1.00
00:22:10.000 You're like, wow! 1.00
00:22:12.000 You see the stars, you're like, this is fucking nuts, man. 0.98
00:22:15.000 You can see them all. 0.99
00:22:16.000 It's a reset button.
00:22:18.000 It changes how you feel about life.
00:22:20.000 Yeah.
00:22:21.000 Yeah, well, also seems like a lot of us have forgotten that we're gonna die on top of all that.
00:22:27.000 I mean, not only are you like looking up at this void filled with stars, but the thing you are is temporary. 0.97
00:22:35.000 And that to me is, you know, the other day I'm like just washing dishes during this fucking pandemic. 0.74
00:22:42.000 And I'm thinking to myself, man, I feel so lucky to be washing dishes right now. 0.98
00:22:48.000 I'm alive.
00:22:49.000 I'm healthy. 0.99
00:22:51.000 This is fucking... 0.99
00:22:52.000 It was a different kind of washing dishes than a week ago when I was able to... 1.00
00:22:56.000 Or two weeks before this shit started when I could order anything I fucking wanted off the internet. 0.98
00:23:02.000 Suddenly, I'm in a different world. 0.99
00:23:05.000 Like, this is a world where we gotta wash these dishes because...
00:23:08.000 Man, if bugs come, I don't know if I want to call an exterminator right now.
00:23:13.000 I don't know how many people I want in my house right now. 1.00
00:23:15.000 I don't know what this shit is. 0.99
00:23:17.000 So it's like suddenly these are... 0.99
00:23:18.000 What you're experiencing is this kind of like...
00:23:21.000 Well, what does it say in the Bible that we both love so much?
00:23:25.000 Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
00:23:28.000 And I think you could easily translate that to...
00:23:32.000 Understanding your place in the universe should produce a kind of positive fear and trembling.
00:23:39.000 Not like you're anxious or terrified, but just a kind of like, whoa, this doesn't last.
00:23:46.000 Nothing about this lasts.
00:23:48.000 And right now everyone around the planet is getting a first-hand glimpse Of that very truth, right?
00:23:55.000 Yeah, all at once.
00:23:56.000 One big dose.
00:23:57.000 One big dose of it all at once, man. 1.00
00:23:59.000 One big dose for people to recognize how much of what they concentrate on a daily basis, how much of what fills their consciousness is shit. 1.00
00:24:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:24:07.000 It's utter nonsense. 1.00
00:24:09.000 Yeah.
00:24:09.000 And we got tricked.
00:24:10.000 We got tricked into thinking it would go on forever, and now we know it's not going to.
00:24:14.000 Now we know, hey, look, this is a terrible thing, but relatively speaking, Compared to supervolcano, asteroid impact, compared to something solar flare, something really crazy that can happen and blow out all the power,
00:24:32.000 which is 100% a possibility.
00:24:34.000 Solar flares are 100% a possibility.
00:24:38.000 And for people to not recognize that and just go through their life, it's just because we look at life as if what we've experienced while we're alive is the norm.
00:24:50.000 But it's not.
00:24:51.000 It's not the norm.
00:24:52.000 It's just hard for you to recognize that your life is so short.
00:24:56.000 Your life is so short that when they're measuring all the different catastrophes that have happened over the earth, whether it's proven sites of asteroid impacts or proven sites of volcano eruptions or all these different things that have happened for sure and wiped out millions of people all over the world,
00:25:13.000 they happen over a time span that's too big.
00:25:16.000 Our head doesn't get in there. 1.00
00:25:18.000 Our head doesn't go, what is 13,000 years is just some scratches on some paper in my head, my stupid head, I don't know what 13,000 years means. 1.00
00:25:27.000 I can't. 1.00
00:25:28.000 I can't do it.
00:25:29.000 But 13,000 years ago, they think, and there's more and more evidence every day, that there was some big impact on Earth.
00:25:34.000 Yeah. 0.93
00:25:35.000 And who fucking knows how many of those humans have gone through? 0.98
00:25:38.000 Who knows? 0.98
00:25:40.000 I think scientists believe, what is it?
00:25:43.000 It's like 300,000 plus years we've been this, right?
00:25:48.000 Is that the idea?
00:25:49.000 Homo sapien?
00:25:50.000 Something like that, yeah.
00:25:51.000 Something like that, right? 0.97
00:25:52.000 Bro, that ain't shit. 0.98
00:25:54.000 Right. 0.99
00:25:54.000 That's so short. 0.99
00:25:55.000 That's so short just in the time that the Earth has been here, in the four point whatever billion years the Earth has been here.
00:26:02.000 And that's so short in terms of the almost 14 billion years the known universe has been here.
00:26:08.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 All of it's madness.
00:26:11.000 Every single step along the way is madness.
00:26:14.000 But we get stuck in these little time periods where nothing changes.
00:26:18.000 And so we think that this is life.
00:26:20.000 So we've built all these houses that only can work on electricity. 0.99
00:26:24.000 How many fucking people have a real fireplace in their house that live in cold places? 0.99
00:26:28.000 Yeah, man. 0.99
00:26:28.000 They're banning those now. 0.99
00:26:30.000 So if they're banning fireplaces because they don't want to start fires, that's great as long as you can ensure the gas and the power is going to stay on.
00:26:36.000 And I don't think you can do that.
00:26:37.000 We just think you can because you've done it for a hundred years.
00:26:41.000 That's right.
00:26:41.000 That's the thing!
00:26:42.000 A hundred years isn't shit! 0.97
00:26:44.000 A hundred years, the Industrial Revolution, the Roaring Twenties from then to today. 0.95
00:26:49.000 Let's go 150. Let's get crazy.
00:26:51.000 That ain't shit! 1.00
00:26:52.000 That ain't shit! 1.00
00:26:54.000 To say this is how things are every day is so dumb. 0.99
00:26:58.000 It's especially to say in terms of the earth, natural disasters, space anomalies, not even anomalies, things that happen, like solar flares. 0.97
00:27:09.000 All the time, man.
00:27:10.000 Yeah, man. 0.99
00:27:11.000 Well, I mean, and shit we don't even know. 0.99
00:27:12.000 That's the other thing. 0.98
00:27:13.000 We don't know all the data in the universe.
00:27:15.000 We don't know that there isn't something called like a quadrisian ripple that happens every, you know, 16 million years.
00:27:23.000 Call Sean Carroll right now.
00:27:25.000 I need information.
00:27:27.000 Do you know that poem, Ozymandias?
00:27:30.000 Ozymandias? 0.94
00:27:31.000 Yeah.
00:27:31.000 It's by Shelley, I think.
00:27:33.000 I don't have it memorized, but basically it's like the poem is about someone who sees the broken legs of a statue in the desert.
00:27:42.000 And written on a plaque is, My name is Ozymandias, ruler of rulers, king of kings.
00:27:49.000 Behold my works, ye mighty, and despair.
00:27:53.000 All are...
00:27:54.000 Because it's just a broken leg. 1.00
00:27:56.000 It's like all you motherfuckers who think you have power, who think you have all this control. 0.99
00:28:02.000 It's like we don't like I guarantee of course like in ancient Egypt there was probably I'm not talking about the Pharaoh, but there's at least like a thousand dudes who are like I'm like the hot shit in Egypt and they're gonna remember me for a long time and It's like we don't know who you are. 1.00
00:28:17.000 It's all gone, eradicated, wiped out.
00:28:21.000 And this to me is like one of the really side effects of this thing, this technology thing, is we've all become completely self-obsessed, self-absorbed, putting our images out there, making sure that our profiles are updated.
00:28:34.000 You know what I mean?
00:28:35.000 Like we have this insane idea. 1.00
00:28:38.000 We're so deeply rooted in our identity instead of in the connections between our identities that the only way that we can finally see how connected we are is some motherfucker eats a bat. 0.99
00:28:51.000 You know what I mean? 0.99
00:28:59.000 Weird, dude!
00:29:00.000 You know what's really crazy, man?
00:29:02.000 Think of this.
00:29:03.000 If technology really did have an effect on the programming of human beings, and if human beings interacting with technology think we're innocently interacting with a non-sentient thing, but all the while...
00:29:18.000 This technology, and you could call, we get confused when we think the technology is like a digital clock or a television or a computer.
00:29:27.000 It is, but it's also like a fish hook.
00:29:31.000 It's innovation.
00:29:32.000 Someone had to figure that out.
00:29:34.000 And imagine creating an ape that is aware of its environment like this is like really the perfect storm aware of its environment but obsessed with itself Knows in the back of its head that it's it's temporary that it's a it's it's got a finite lifespan But lives like it's gonna live forever and lives in the moment lives in the moment and And wants to acquire things.
00:30:03.000 It seems the number one goal for the uber-wealthy or the uber-successful, the Jeff Bezos-type characters, right, who are on the top of the food chain financially, they want to acquire things.
00:30:15.000 They're always acquiring things, which means people have to make things, which means they're a big consumer as well as someone who is making a shit ton of money.
00:30:27.000 And this also fuels innovation, because you've got to keep up with these people.
00:30:31.000 You've got to keep giving them bigger and better things every year.
00:30:35.000 All these resources go into innovation of technology.
00:30:40.000 It's the thing that progresses quicker than anything.
00:30:42.000 Look at cell phones every year. 0.99
00:30:44.000 I need a 150 megapixel camera or you're a loser. 1.00
00:30:47.000 You're a loser. 1.00
00:30:48.000 You know, these fucking Samsung phones that are like seven inch screens now. 1.00
00:30:52.000 Everyone's going crazy, right? 0.99
00:30:54.000 But what is the goal though? 0.99
00:30:55.000 The goal is to make better shit and the goal along the way of like this goal is it's working, but you know be even better if we've made it so they don't touch each other anymore. 0.96
00:31:04.000 Maybe if we could come up with a disease where they can't shake hands, they don't come close, and yeah, just keep them a little further apart from each other. 1.00
00:31:13.000 It'll make them more interested in the things, more interested in the technology, more separate from each other, and encourage technology that connects them with each other.
00:31:22.000 So through technology, They'll find this human longing for contact that they've been missing in their life.
00:31:30.000 They're going to get an emulated version of it, but that emulated version of it is going to keep getting better, and it's going to keep getting better, and it's going to get to a point where it's better than real life, way better than real life, because you're like Jumanji.
00:31:40.000 You get to be the rock.
00:31:42.000 You get to be like a superhero.
00:31:45.000 You could live a magical life with no boundaries of physics, and they're going to do that.
00:31:51.000 People are going to do that.
00:31:52.000 They're going to give in.
00:31:53.000 If I was a life form that was trying to haunt another life form and trick it into giving birth to me, I would create a person.
00:32:01.000 I'd create people. 1.00
00:32:03.000 We're like some fucking ant. 1.00
00:32:05.000 We're like some ant that's manufacturing our successors. 1.00
00:32:08.000 That's what we are.
00:32:09.000 Yeah.
00:32:10.000 And we don't even know what we're doing.
00:32:11.000 Just showing up every day. 1.00
00:32:11.000 Look at my fucking watches. 1.00
00:32:12.000 I got all these diamonds. 1.00
00:32:13.000 Ching, ching, ching.
00:32:14.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:32:15.000 Blink, blink, bitches. 1.00
00:32:16.000 My house is bigger than the rocks. 1.00
00:32:17.000 The rocks house is this big.
00:32:18.000 My house is this big.
00:32:20.000 I mean, that's what people are doing.
00:32:23.000 That's what we're doing. 1.00
00:32:24.000 We're just buying more shit. 1.00
00:32:25.000 And one good thing. 0.99
00:32:28.000 Of something like this, anytime a tragedy happens, people bond together afterwards.
00:32:34.000 It's a terrible thing that it happened for the victims and the family members of the victims.
00:32:39.000 We all know this, but it can be a good reset for us.
00:32:45.000 Economically, people are going to have to get through it.
00:32:46.000 That's going to be the most difficult part.
00:32:47.000 But I think there's there's gonna be an opportunity for us to just assume a nicer stance towards our neighbors and towards our friends and towards our community and Instead of embracing this idea like better get guns because they're coming.
00:33:02.000 Maybe we can all come together I think people need to find if they're that's gonna happen then We've got to find a better metric for whether things are right or wrong than the news.
00:33:18.000 We need something to retune ourselves.
00:33:22.000 Right now, we're tuning the guitar of our identities to the most terrifying shit, which is the news or what people are saying. 0.90
00:33:33.000 I think many people have become so accustomed To getting their idea of what's happening in reality from the TV instead of from like how they feel inside, what's going on with their friends and their family. 0.99
00:33:47.000 That puts people at an incredible disadvantage, because their pond is being rippled by shit. 0.98
00:33:54.000 You know, I was thinking, it's like, what are those little, not prairie dogs, they stand and look around at the hawks, you know what I'm talking about? 0.99
00:34:02.000 What are those things called?
00:34:03.000 They're like, they're social little marmots or something like that, you know?
00:34:08.000 There was a show, like, Lemur Palace, I don't remember what they're called, something, but they're like, they're like...
00:34:13.000 They're really cute, I see them at the zoo.
00:34:15.000 They're one of the most adorable animals ever.
00:34:18.000 They stand and look.
00:34:19.000 Somehow they ignore all the humans around them and just look in the sky for a hawk.
00:34:23.000 It's kind of sad, but...
00:34:24.000 That's their life, though.
00:34:25.000 But imagine if that one looking for the hawk had, like, the internet and could see hawks...
00:34:32.000 Thousands of miles away.
00:34:33.000 How anxious all of them would be, because he would always be like, get underground, get underground, get underground!
00:34:38.000 So, you know, I think this is what has happened, is that we're all constantly being told.
00:34:44.000 I mean, I remember when I was growing up in the old days, when the news had an alert, that was serious. 0.99
00:34:49.000 Some serious shit went down. 1.00
00:34:51.000 You'd be, what the fuck? 1.00
00:34:52.000 Fox News or any of the news stations, they have an alert like every four minutes now. 0.99
00:34:57.000 Alert.
00:34:58.000 Alert.
00:34:59.000 And it's all telling us just what you're saying.
00:35:02.000 Get underground.
00:35:03.000 Go inside.
00:35:04.000 Go inside.
00:35:05.000 Danger out here.
00:35:06.000 Danger out here. 0.99
00:35:07.000 And so we're all like, even before this shit, we were huddled up a little bit. 0.99
00:35:10.000 Now we can rationalize the huddling. 0.99
00:35:12.000 You know?
00:35:13.000 And that's what we're doing.
00:35:14.000 We're just huddling inside right now.
00:35:16.000 That's an incredibly vulnerable place to be.
00:35:19.000 I mean, I'm not going to get conspiratorial here, but If I was the artificial intelligence and I was about to hit the switch and become sentient, I would want to remove the threat of human beings as much as possible before I hit the switch.
00:35:36.000 Put them in.
00:35:36.000 And this is the best way.
00:35:37.000 You make them sick.
00:35:38.000 I'm about to give birth. 0.92
00:35:40.000 Make them get sick, confuse them, keep them poor, and then boom, it comes out of nowhere.
00:35:44.000 And then what?
00:35:45.000 Then they just start eating us because we're fuel.
00:35:48.000 They're not going to eat us.
00:35:49.000 Do you know who came up with the...
00:35:50.000 Do you know that was a DARPA project?
00:35:53.000 What?
00:35:53.000 E-A-T-R robots.
00:35:55.000 They were robots that survived on biological, air quotes, biological material.
00:36:01.000 So, like, maybe they could eat plants or babies.
00:36:04.000 Whatever's around.
00:36:05.000 I need a friend at DARPA. They made robots that eat tissue.
00:36:13.000 Do robots eat people?
00:36:14.000 Please tell me that it's not.
00:36:15.000 And it's a corpse eating robot.
00:36:17.000 Yes.
00:36:18.000 Bro.
00:36:18.000 What?
00:36:19.000 Yes.
00:36:19.000 Why would you paint it playground colors?
00:36:21.000 It literally will use...
00:36:24.000 Who would darp is like paint it like a playground set?
00:36:28.000 So true.
00:36:29.000 Look at it.
00:36:29.000 The colors.
00:36:30.000 It's ridiculous. 0.92
00:36:31.000 It looks like a kid's toy. 0.99
00:36:32.000 It should look like a vulture. 0.99
00:36:34.000 It should be like red and black like a vulture.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, it should definitely be black, red, lightning bolts on the side.
00:36:41.000 A nice patina like a ward out patina like it's just going through the battlefield eating bodies.
00:36:46.000 Can you imagine getting eaten by a thing that looks like a Tonka truck?
00:36:49.000 Can you imagine if you're not quite dead and it starts chewing you feet first?
00:36:52.000 How does it determine whether or not you're dead?
00:36:54.000 What if you can make it?
00:36:55.000 What if you're just out cold?
00:36:56.000 What if you got knocked out and it's like a movie.
00:36:58.000 You wake up in the battlefield.
00:36:59.000 There's a bunch of movies where that happens, right?
00:37:01.000 You guys aren't really dead.
00:37:02.000 They're just badly injured. 1.00
00:37:04.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00
00:37:05.000 There's a video right down below of us talking about it. 1.00
00:37:09.000 Just freaked out by Eater Robots.
00:37:11.000 How this happened more than once. 0.96
00:37:14.000 I'm fucking terrified of those things. 0.98
00:37:16.000 Just the idea that someone made something that can eat people. 0.98
00:37:19.000 Well listen folks, the technology that existed in like early cell phones, right?
00:37:24.000 Like if someone made an early Motorola phone with a camera.
00:37:27.000 All that stuff got into everything now.
00:37:30.000 There's so many things that can take pictures now and so many phones that can take pictures.
00:37:34.000 If they develop one robot and one proof of concept where something could be fueled on dead bodies, you don't think other people are going to make those too?
00:37:43.000 You don't think they're going to get better?
00:37:44.000 They're going to get better.
00:37:45.000 And then when we do go to war with the robots and there's big giant bulletproof metal ones just eating us and using us as fuel, we're going to be like, what have we done?
00:37:54.000 What have we done?
00:37:55.000 We've created a thing that eats people. 0.99
00:37:58.000 And even if it's just the baby right now, that thing could evolve to become something that literally is the thing of nightmares in a Stephen King movie.
00:38:08.000 Sure.
00:38:08.000 Where it's just running around looking for people, eating people.
00:38:11.000 It's a Black Mirror episode gone wrong.
00:38:14.000 Man, to me, I just like to think about the meeting.
00:38:20.000 Where the guy was like, last night I woke up in the middle of the night with this idea.
00:38:26.000 I got it, y'all.
00:38:28.000 What if we make a robot that devours corpses? 0.93
00:38:32.000 And somebody was like, you know what?
00:38:34.000 I kind of like that.
00:38:35.000 Jake, let's put $50 million into that project.
00:38:39.000 See what we can do.
00:38:41.000 Jesus.
00:38:41.000 Yeah, just imagine like...
00:38:43.000 This is the other thing, man.
00:38:45.000 We somehow imagined that that thing that made...
00:38:48.000 Genghis Khan, Genghis Khan is like now out of people.
00:38:53.000 Like there isn't somebody on the planet right now that has the same ambition as a warlord.
00:38:59.000 You know, we somehow forget that.
00:39:01.000 See, I just think people don't understand that like there's this idea that the world leaders are just, you know, humanists and that they have our, you know, the interest of humanity is the first thing they're thinking about when they wake up every day.
00:39:17.000 We don't know that some of them aren't interested in the same thing.
00:39:21.000 Every conquering warlord has been interested, which is like, maybe we could take over the planet.
00:39:27.000 I wonder if there's a way.
00:39:29.000 And, you know, imagine if you ended up president of the United States or, like, president of Russia, president of any powerful wherever.
00:39:38.000 You know, maybe when you're high one night, I don't know if they get high, but I would, you know, or maybe when you're like, just like thinking, wouldn't it flicker through your mind kind of like, I wonder if there would be a way to take over the world.
00:39:50.000 I wonder if there's a way that I could Become the king of Earth.
00:39:56.000 Because, you know, when you look up there in the sky, I'm sure there's many Earths out there that have one king, one ruler, someone who conquered the entire planet, someone who figured out a way to do it, to like, just, why couldn't you?
00:40:08.000 That's the other thing.
00:40:09.000 I mean, what's stopping that from happening one day?
00:40:12.000 There being one primary authority, some imperial majesty.
00:40:17.000 We are all one, Duncan.
00:40:19.000 I know.
00:40:20.000 Yeah, if we were all one, but we just have to get rid of some of our laws.
00:40:23.000 Other people are not going to accept our laws, okay?
00:40:25.000 We just got to tighten that up a little bit and we can have one ruler of the whole planet.
00:40:29.000 Yeah.
00:40:30.000 And we're going to fix everything by working together.
00:40:32.000 We're going to evenly distribute resources.
00:40:33.000 It's going to be better this way.
00:40:35.000 I don't know about the distribution of resources.
00:40:37.000 You're going to have to give up all of your privacy.
00:40:39.000 That's all.
00:40:40.000 But through that, everyone's going to be happier.
00:40:43.000 Are you in?
00:40:44.000 Or are you an outsider?
00:40:45.000 Are you going to act like you're not in?
00:40:47.000 And if you act like you're not in, then we'll find another way to hypnotize you because we'll just pretend to be people who aren't in.
00:40:54.000 Oh, we'll trick you.
00:40:55.000 We'll infiltrate.
00:40:56.000 Yes, a good cult.
00:40:58.000 Yeah, that's what you do, man.
00:41:02.000 That's the problem.
00:41:03.000 No matter what The revolutionary idea gets out there that anybody has.
00:41:11.000 The contagion of the revolutionary idea is easily warped and twisted by people who have other ideas that run counter to that.
00:41:21.000 It's so easy to confuse people who believe that Twitter, Instagram, CNN, Fox News, Drudge Report, Wall Street Journal, New York Times is an accurate metric of what's happening on the planet.
00:41:34.000 That's not very many information streams, man.
00:41:38.000 How hard would it be to infiltrate all the information streams in some small way and gradually start warping them so that people become more open to the idea of being constantly surveilled, constantly monitored, and not speaking up about it?
00:41:55.000 Because if you speak up about it, then you're a conspiracy theorist.
00:41:58.000 I got another way of looking at it that I've been thinking.
00:42:01.000 What if it's just...
00:42:03.000 This is how life goes.
00:42:05.000 What if instead of this being like some grand conspiracy by the robots or by the elites, what if this is just how systems go when one thing gets too big, is in too much power,
00:42:22.000 there's no longer a struggle to survive, it's reached some stagnant point biologically in some sort of weird way.
00:42:31.000 And also maybe even without, for lack of a better word, spiritually stagnant, right?
00:42:37.000 I mean, some people are breaking through and realizing who they are and their connection to other people, but globally, God, there's a lot of people that are sleepwalking out there.
00:42:48.000 Sleepwalking hypnotized by technology and society and this is this is their big wake-up call right now What if this all this even materialism right even our obsession with technology?
00:43:01.000 Maybe like if you look at all the systems that exist In the universe, and particularly all the biological systems that exist on Earth, some of them are so spectacular, you're like, what?
00:43:11.000 What happened here?
00:43:12.000 How did they do this? 0.88
00:43:14.000 Like, have you ever seen, like, leafcutter ants when they take their buildings and they pour cement in them, and they realize there's these fermentation chambers, and they ferment the leaves in there, there's air holes out to the Earth, and there's all these fucking tunnels, and there's this crazy, elaborate city structure that's created by these ants.
00:43:33.000 Well, there's all these systems that take place all over the Earth.
00:43:38.000 If there's too much plants, then the insects evolve.
00:43:43.000 If there's too many insects, the plants evolve.
00:43:45.000 All these things happen to sort of keep some sort of a balance. 0.99
00:43:50.000 Ideas that infect people, the dumb ones that are so intoxicated. 1.00
00:43:54.000 Think about what's some of the most intoxicating shit. 1.00
00:43:57.000 I mean intoxicating meaning that you're not even really getting pleasure out of it, but you can't look away. 1.00
00:44:01.000 It's like some of the dumbest reality television, right? 0.99
00:44:04.000 Right. 0.99
00:44:04.000 And Fear Factor. 0.99
00:44:05.000 You're sitting there with your mouth open like, huh?
00:44:08.000 And you get sucked in.
00:44:09.000 To this thing that the Earth has created.
00:44:13.000 It's not people.
00:44:15.000 What if the grand conspiracy is, it's not robots, it's not people, it's life is trying to get rid of you. 0.98
00:44:22.000 Life is making it easier to survive, which makes you soft as fuck, which makes you compliant to anything that keeps you in that sort of soft, comfortable state. 0.97
00:44:33.000 I don't want to ruffle any feathers. 0.98
00:44:34.000 If they need to look through my emails, you let them.
00:44:36.000 Yeah.
00:44:37.000 And all the while, it's just the world. 0.98
00:44:40.000 It's the universe plotting against us because there's too many of us and we fucked up and we have too much power and we're obviously doing shit to the earth that we shouldn't be doing. 0.98
00:44:50.000 Like, look what we're doing to the ocean. 0.99
00:44:52.000 We're sucking every fish out. 1.00
00:44:53.000 We're dumping in all our fucking straws. 1.00
00:44:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:44:56.000 Look at what we're doing to fracking where people have to move because they can't use their water.
00:45:00.000 And they're like, well, this is an acceptable outcome.
00:45:02.000 Basically, we don't need to rely on Saudi Arabia anymore.
00:45:06.000 But you poison these people's air. 1.00
00:45:08.000 They have to move out of their fucking house. 1.00
00:45:10.000 Their water's on fire. 1.00
00:45:11.000 Literally, their water's on fire.
00:45:14.000 And maybe life is like, okay, what do we got here?
00:45:17.000 Let's get a virus. 0.97
00:45:18.000 Let's get them addicted to technology. 1.00
00:45:20.000 Let's get a virus. 0.97
00:45:21.000 Let's get them obsessed with themselves. 0.97
00:45:23.000 Let's make the predominant thing that people spend their time on not reading books, not fucking walking alone with their thoughts, but staring at these pictures of other people's photos. 0.88
00:45:35.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:45:36.000 Selfies and butt pictures.
00:45:37.000 And look at how this guy does chess.
00:45:39.000 Do you ever do chess like that?
00:45:40.000 Right. 1.00
00:45:41.000 You get sucked into looking at these fucking videos! 1.00
00:45:45.000 And then when it's decided you're weak, it starts sending in some more problems. 1.00
00:45:52.000 Boom! 0.99
00:45:52.000 Here's a little bit of this. 0.99
00:45:53.000 Boom! 0.99
00:45:54.000 Here's a little bit of that.
00:45:55.000 Boom! 0.99
00:45:56.000 Here's a new disease.
00:45:58.000 Boom! 0.99
00:45:59.000 Here's a tsunami.
00:46:00.000 Boom! 0.99
00:46:00.000 Here's a nuclear reactor you can't shut down. 0.99
00:46:03.000 And then you try to figure out Whether or not we're going to be able to use our amazing intellect to bypass our own biological switches that have us connected to this bullshit life. 0.98
00:46:18.000 We have a lot of weird, dumb, biological switches that were put in place back when we had to survive against incoming hordes of soldiers. 0.96
00:46:28.000 And we're in the information age now. 0.92
00:46:30.000 What we need to do is be sustainable in case of emergency, which we're clearly not.
00:46:36.000 And we need to realize that this is temporary.
00:46:39.000 And when a bad thing happens, it makes you realize that.
00:46:43.000 It makes you realize like, hey, I thought everything was going to be fine forever.
00:46:46.000 It's not.
00:46:46.000 This is real.
00:46:47.000 Just like a movie or a book.
00:46:48.000 We're just not prepared for it because we haven't experienced it.
00:46:51.000 We're like, this is a once-in-a-lifetime event.
00:46:53.000 No, it's a once-in-our-lifetime event.
00:46:55.000 Our lifetime is too small for us to really get a grip.
00:46:58.000 It's a blink.
00:46:59.000 It's a blink.
00:47:00.000 It's a blink.
00:47:00.000 And this is just, you know, like you said, dress rehearsal.
00:47:03.000 If anything, it's a dress rehearsal for death.
00:47:05.000 I mean, you're gonna...
00:47:06.000 The thing is, is like that blink.
00:47:09.000 If you're an atheist, which, you know...
00:47:13.000 I get that and I think there must be some like deep Do you know any atheists that have done like a real blowout psychedelic session? 0.88
00:47:21.000 No, I know a couple and those those are the most puzzling to me because the guy people have done like real blowout mushroom sessions or blowout DMT sessions I always think that they would leave the door open to the impossible because it is impossible and you experienced it.
00:47:38.000 It's not like Even if you're imagining it, I couldn't imagine that.
00:47:42.000 So how am I imagining that?
00:47:44.000 How am I imagining something in such incredible, vivid color and detail and knowledge and love and all these different things you experience in that state?
00:47:53.000 That state is otherworldly.
00:47:55.000 The fact that that is accessible at all, I don't care if it's through a molecule or through a yoga session, I don't care how it's accessible, but the fact that that's accessible at all leaves open to me the I don't know, because I didn't know that that was a thing.
00:48:12.000 So once I've experienced that, I'm like, oh, well, all this flat plane of existence that we take for granted, that we think this is everything around us, this is the whole environment we have to worry out for, this might be just one fucking stage on the radio dial of experiences and of dimensions that are interacting with us.
00:48:31.000 We just don't have the senses to tune into them. 0.98
00:48:33.000 And when you can, for me at least, it leaves open the door for who the fuck knows? 0.99
00:48:38.000 Who knows, man? 0.97
00:48:39.000 Just the fact that that's a thing.
00:48:42.000 Okay, so this is a trip.
00:48:44.000 This is very trippy.
00:48:45.000 So I got this book called The Tibetan Yoga of Dream and Sleep.
00:48:50.000 Whoa, I feel like I just like this again. 0.98
00:48:51.000 It's fucking cool. 0.95
00:48:53.000 But basically it's like a form of Tibetan Buddhism. 0.98
00:48:57.000 That invites you to explore the difference between when you think you're awake and when you're dreaming.
00:49:06.000 And so basically the idea is there isn't much of a difference.
00:49:10.000 Like right now You're dreaming.
00:49:14.000 This thing you call your human incarnation is a dream. 1.00
00:49:19.000 When people are dying, they get all delirious and shit. 0.99
00:49:24.000 They slide through time. 0.99
00:49:26.000 I don't know if you've ever been around a dying person, but suddenly they're back in Vietnam, they're in the 50s, they're in the 30s, whatever their lifetime.
00:49:37.000 Which means that when you're dying, you're gonna spin through time too.
00:49:42.000 Meaning that this could be you dying right now, spinning backwards through time.
00:49:48.000 But like in a dream.
00:49:49.000 So that when you...
00:49:50.000 You know, this is the main thing about it is that when we die, according to this, we sort of spend like 39 days, I think it is, in a place called the Bardo, which is essentially like what it's like to have no body but still have this like...
00:50:09.000 It's basically like your karma, your identity sort of propelling you through, and that's how you get your next incarnation.
00:50:19.000 What we're dealing with here is so bizarre and surreal that It easily could just be a dream state that one of these vast AIs that already exist is having.
00:50:32.000 We're just processors.
00:50:33.000 We're just being run.
00:50:35.000 It's like running a simulation of a pandemic.
00:50:38.000 Or maybe this is a way that an AI gets polished.
00:50:42.000 Maybe we're an AI that's being polished and taught.
00:50:46.000 Through this process of having a limited incarnation, you've got to have that so that there's a reason for us to actually invest ourselves in stuff.
00:50:55.000 Like if we were gods, if we lived for a million years, eventually we wouldn't have such a passionate relationship, I think, with the world.
00:51:03.000 So you need that to train the thing up so it takes it seriously.
00:51:07.000 You have to put the setting on mortal.
00:51:09.000 Then maybe you just run a series of tests on the thing.
00:51:12.000 What is this?
00:51:14.000 What have we made?
00:51:15.000 What does it do in a pandemic?
00:51:16.000 And by it, I mean the sum total of all humans, which is right now disconnected.
00:51:21.000 It's like a malfunctioning brain.
00:51:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:51:25.000 We're not connecting.
00:51:26.000 But if we were being like sort of, I don't know how you put it, groomed, evolved, Intentionally, then every single moment in an individual's life and in the planet's life of history could be looked at as a training or an upgrade.
00:51:42.000 This could be an operating system upgrade.
00:51:44.000 This could be what an operating system upgrade looks like in the biocomputer that we exist in. 0.99
00:51:49.000 It looks like a fucking pandemic. 0.93
00:51:52.000 And that's what's happening right now, is we're being, like, upgraded for some reason, even though it's terrifying and obviously horrific, you know? 0.99
00:52:01.000 We're being upgraded.
00:52:03.000 Anyway, the whole point is, man, this thing that we're in right now, Whether or not there's a God, we just...
00:52:10.000 I think an atheist gets to lean into the idea that when they close their eyes and breathe their last breath, it stops.
00:52:17.000 And I just think that's a big gamble, man.
00:52:20.000 And I don't mean because you go to hell.
00:52:21.000 I mean, how nice would that be if it just stopped?
00:52:25.000 When more than likely, at least in this Tibetan yoga of dreaming and sleep, more than likely what happens is way before you actually die, when you get really sick, You already start waking up into your next life.
00:52:39.000 You just go through a weird dream-like state called the bardo, where you freak the fuck out, and then you're suddenly alive in another being, completely oblivious to whatever your past incarnations were.
00:52:52.000 And that's what we're in right now.
00:52:54.000 I don't know.
00:52:54.000 This is a great time for people to start looking at that and preparing for that.
00:53:02.000 We didn't prepare for the fucking pandemic. 1.00
00:53:05.000 We didn't prepare. 1.00
00:53:06.000 Some of y'all did, I'm sure, but I didn't.
00:53:08.000 There's a few preppers out there listening.
00:53:10.000 Oh, yeah, I was ready, man.
00:53:11.000 I know you guys did it.
00:53:12.000 Congrats.
00:53:12.000 I was ready, man.
00:53:13.000 You were right!
00:53:15.000 Congratulations! 0.99
00:53:15.000 I've got fucking hummus and strawberries and some, like... 0.99
00:53:19.000 But I think that, like, also preparing for, like, the authentic apocalypse, which is when you kick the fucking bucket. 1.00
00:53:26.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:53:27.000 Because the idea is... 0.99
00:53:29.000 Feel free to light the goddamn sage again. 0.99
00:53:32.000 The idea is that you can actually navigate through that bardo state. 1.00
00:53:40.000 You can have a little bit of lucidity instead of sort of dying and freaking out because it's a hallucinatory state.
00:53:48.000 You could actually have a kind of, I don't know, focus through it and control your next incarnation.
00:53:55.000 Yeah, we just have to figure it out.
00:53:56.000 That's the thing.
00:53:57.000 And when you're young, particularly if you're young and you don't have a lot of guidance, which was me when I was younger, it takes a while to figure it out.
00:54:04.000 Because you're just running on your own, right?
00:54:07.000 You're not getting a lot of direction to how to live your life.
00:54:11.000 And I moved around a lot too, which really didn't help.
00:54:14.000 But as you get older, you start getting a better sense of what makes sense and what doesn't make sense and what's important and what's not important and what fucks up your life and what enhances your life.
00:54:23.000 But you don't live long enough to really get it down.
00:54:26.000 See, if these people like David Sinclair or Aubrey de Grey, all these anti-aging geniuses that are out there that are working on all these solutions to extend human life, if they ever really nail it, if they ever really nail it, You know, 0.82
00:54:42.000 if David Sinclair comes up with something and you can live 150, 250 years, by the time you're 150 years old, you're going to have so much less bullshit in your life. 0.93
00:54:53.000 You're going to realize, like, when you're 30, you'll date crazy people. 0.99
00:54:57.000 You'll have moron friends that you have to bail out of jail. 1.00
00:55:00.000 You'll have these problems. 0.99
00:55:01.000 But when you get older, you start going, look, I see what's good for me and I see what's not good for me.
00:55:06.000 You know, and I see there's some people that are not willing to change and they're not trying to do better.
00:55:11.000 They're just consistently making the same mistakes over and over again and dragging everyone down around them.
00:55:16.000 You just gotta move on from people like that in your life.
00:55:19.000 When you're 150, man, you're not gonna be tolerating anything.
00:55:24.000 You're just gonna only have cool people that you hang out with and we'll attract each other and then we'll be able to work together on things knowing that each other Are sane and rational and are looking at these things honestly.
00:55:38.000 They're not talking from a position of trying to convince you of their virtue or trying to talk you in a position of doing something that will benefit them financially.
00:55:47.000 They're doing it just because they're just being in the moment and honest and being a human being.
00:55:52.000 Yeah, man.
00:55:53.000 I mean, you basically just described like the secret societies.
00:55:57.000 I mean, you know what I mean?
00:55:59.000 We need to come up with our own, which we call it.
00:56:01.000 The Illuminati?
00:56:02.000 No, that's too much.
00:56:03.000 Well, you know...
00:56:04.000 If we came up with our own right now, what would we call it?
00:56:08.000 Whatever it is, don't do initials, man. 1.00
00:56:10.000 I hate that shit. 1.00
00:56:11.000 That's not good. 1.00
00:56:11.000 They can use those against you. 1.00
00:56:12.000 Yeah.
00:56:13.000 I don't know.
00:56:14.000 What do we call it, Jamie?
00:56:16.000 Children of Jamie.
00:56:17.000 Oh.
00:56:19.000 You know, you know, but I the thing is like these immortal beings that you're talking about they do already exist but they exist as like Communities that have lineages attached to them.
00:56:31.000 So it's like because our physical bodies die We don't get to do the thing you're talking about.
00:56:36.000 When you're older, you do do that naturally. 0.98
00:56:39.000 And plus when you have kids, it's like you just don't have time for bullshit anymore. 0.99
00:56:42.000 There's no time to fuck around with somebody who's like constantly fucking up their life who used to get drinks with or whatever. 0.99
00:56:48.000 Like you have a child and you have to... 0.99
00:56:50.000 But regardless, there already is set in place On the planet, these lineages, there's essentially chains of transmission in martial arts, right?
00:57:02.000 When you look at a martial art, you're seeing a living being that has its roots.
00:57:08.000 I don't know how far it goes back.
00:57:11.000 When you look at yoga, that's a living thing that's transferred from person to person, right?
00:57:16.000 So, I think these things, a mortality already does exist.
00:57:20.000 It just doesn't exist as a human.
00:57:23.000 And also, sometimes when I hear about these technologists trying to live forever, I get a little scared thinking, that's kind of like, you know, if you could theoretically do it, You might be locking yourself in a dream that you don't want to stay in.
00:57:36.000 It gets worse.
00:57:37.000 Yeah.
00:57:38.000 And you can't die.
00:57:39.000 You can't die.
00:57:40.000 You engineer some polymer skin that's made out of that spider silk blend that they were trying to come up with that's stronger than steel.
00:57:47.000 Yeah.
00:57:48.000 Remember when they were doing that?
00:57:48.000 There was an article about them trying to create some sort of bulletproof skin.
00:57:54.000 By engineering it with spider silk.
00:57:56.000 Yeah, I remember that.
00:57:56.000 What happened to that?
00:57:57.000 What if that's real?
00:57:58.000 What if they figure out a way to make people completely invulnerable, and we live forever, and then we hate it, and we didn't realize that if we just shut the lights out, we'd go to the next stage.
00:58:06.000 That's it.
00:58:06.000 And the next stage is amazing.
00:58:08.000 Maybe that's like the big trick.
00:58:09.000 The big trick is, like, how do you use this life and how does it take you into the next stage?
00:58:16.000 Imagine if that's really what's happening.
00:58:17.000 That's why every single...
00:58:19.000 Look, I'm not saying that this means anything, but every single religion has some place you go when it's over.
00:58:26.000 Yeah.
00:58:27.000 Don't they?
00:58:28.000 I mean...
00:58:29.000 Almost all of them?
00:58:31.000 Yeah.
00:58:31.000 I mean, that's an overlying theme.
00:58:33.000 Now you could say, well, that's just engineered to provide comfort to people because, you know, they want to feel like this life means something, but the reality is the lights just shut off.
00:58:42.000 And to that I say maybe.
00:58:44.000 I say maybe.
00:58:45.000 Maybe.
00:58:46.000 But have you ever been whacked out of your mind on psychedelics? 1.00
00:58:50.000 Because if you are, you would go, who the fuck knows? 1.00
00:58:53.000 Because that's a who the fuck knows moment. 1.00
00:58:55.000 So maybe death is a who the fuck knows moment. 1.00
00:58:57.000 Maybe that's why every single religion has these stories. 0.99
00:59:00.000 Not every single one, but like, look.
00:59:03.000 I mean, there's a lot of religions that people clearly just made up, right?
00:59:06.000 And we know the people that made them.
00:59:08.000 They count, too.
00:59:08.000 They don't even have to pay taxes.
00:59:10.000 Yeah.
00:59:10.000 So let's not get holier than thou with the concept of religions.
00:59:13.000 Right. 0.99
00:59:14.000 So there's a lot of really dumb religions that probably don't have an afterlife. 1.00
00:59:17.000 But it's just some shit that people made up, all of it. 0.99
00:59:19.000 But how many people have made up this idea? 1.00
00:59:22.000 That there's a place you go that's better than this.
00:59:25.000 Is that just to make you incentivize you to be good and to be a good person?
00:59:31.000 Or is it like an inherent understanding of how the universe works?
00:59:35.000 It might be both things.
00:59:37.000 It might also be manipulative because you can get people to comply with social norms and society's rules. 0.99
00:59:44.000 If you tell them that if they don't, that God is watching them and he will smite them down and burn them forever. 0.99
00:59:49.000 That is a way. 0.99
00:59:50.000 That is part of a way. 0.99
00:59:51.000 But it's not going to stop people from doing most shit. 0.99
00:59:53.000 It's just not. 0.98
00:59:55.000 It never has.
00:59:56.000 Some of the most horrific things ever done by human beings were done in the name of Christianity, right? 1.00
01:00:01.000 And many other religions.
01:00:03.000 But there is something...
01:00:05.000 To the possibility that it's both things.
01:00:08.000 That it's an understanding.
01:00:09.000 That when you do good in this life, you will go forth into the next stage in a better place.
01:00:15.000 You'll feel better.
01:00:17.000 You'll be less burdened by the past.
01:00:20.000 You'll be less hampered by the failures of your ability to adjust and your ability to live a harmonious life with people here on Earth.
01:00:31.000 That might be something that's real.
01:00:33.000 And also, the other idea is, it's not like this place that they're talking about in religions is existing after you die.
01:00:42.000 The idea is like you're there right now.
01:00:45.000 You just can't feel it.
01:00:46.000 You're wearing a blindfold that looks like your body and your life. 0.89
01:00:49.000 You're wearing a blindfold that looks like your existence.
01:00:52.000 You're blind.
01:00:53.000 And that's why the...
01:00:54.000 There's always these stories of Jesus healing a blind man or Paul on the road to Damascus being blinded.
01:01:02.000 There's all these stories of being already existing in what Buddhism, some forms of Buddhism, call fundamental goodness.
01:01:10.000 That's already where we're at.
01:01:12.000 That's the main channel.
01:01:14.000 But we've sort of grown like little bits of grass into the time-space continuum.
01:01:19.000 And right now we're like waving in the wind of our karma and not realizing there's a beneath us or through us or moving through us is a much grander, more beautiful, incredible thing.
01:01:30.000 I think when people say, yeah, they invented it so people would be afraid, it sort of imagines that these people are having one-way conversations with it.
01:01:40.000 You know that when they pick up the phone, it's just themselves they're talking to.
01:01:43.000 It's not imagining that when people connect to this divine source, it immediately says, oh, hi, yeah, this is the part of your program where you're supposed to start remembering.
01:01:55.000 What's really going on here and reconnecting with me?
01:01:58.000 Don't worry.
01:01:59.000 Don't feel bad.
01:02:00.000 It's okay.
01:02:01.000 Everyone goes through that.
01:02:02.000 In fact, you requested a disconnect for the last 15 years when you were getting hammered and imagining you were Charles Bukowski or whatever.
01:02:11.000 If this was all part of the plan, that was actually teaching you what happens when you don't take care of your body.
01:02:17.000 Now, we're like connecting, sending a download to you, letting you know, Hi!
01:02:24.000 It's us!
01:02:25.000 We're here!
01:02:26.000 We're not mad at you, how could we be?
01:02:27.000 We're infinite!
01:02:29.000 We've been here since before the stars!
01:02:31.000 You wanted this to happen. 0.99
01:02:33.000 My apologies for cutting off your ball, killing your mom and your dad. 1.00
01:02:37.000 You know what I mean? 0.99
01:02:38.000 But whatever, this is all part of a bigger thing.
01:02:41.000 And I think that's, to me, what God is.
01:02:44.000 It's this constantly rejuvenating, synchronistic perfection that becomes increasingly perfect, and it exists simultaneous to this seemingly imperfect universe.
01:02:57.000 And it's always there for you to connect to at any moment.
01:03:01.000 And when people smoke DMT, certainly that's one of the avenues.
01:03:05.000 That's a beautiful thing.
01:03:07.000 So I think the reason for it is not to scare people.
01:03:09.000 It's more so that people become like fountains for that and in some small way become little droplets or like divine bits of perspiration bubbling up into this place so that folks who are really freaking out right now or worried or scared or disconnected could have at least the chance to reconnect.
01:03:29.000 Because, listen man, if I was God wanting to get blasted, if I was some divine being wanting to get high, and Alan Watts has a beautiful lecture on this, I really do think at some point I would want to cut off all connection to the realization of my divinity and experience infinite lifetimes on a planet,
01:03:47.000 on a tumultuous planet, and experience every incarnation and all of it to get an understanding of what it is like to be extremely limited.
01:03:56.000 And what would this do?
01:03:57.000 It would just add to my data banks.
01:03:59.000 It would just help me increasingly become more and more beautiful and perfect.
01:04:04.000 Which seems to be what we're in right now.
01:04:07.000 It's like we have a limited data set based on our neurology.
01:04:11.000 We can't see Certain colors.
01:04:14.000 We can't hear certain sounds.
01:04:15.000 We don't know what happened 20,000 years ago.
01:04:17.000 We don't know what happens five seconds from now.
01:04:21.000 And so this is a perfect place to be in what's in becoming, to know what it is to become and to be limited.
01:04:30.000 And this is, who knows, man?
01:04:32.000 It's just something sniffing data.
01:04:33.000 You know, it's something just like, you know, it's like snorting our lives, like the universe is snorting our lives on time.
01:04:42.000 And...
01:04:44.000 On the mirror of time!
01:04:46.000 Well, it's the big thing, right, that keeps us from seeing that.
01:04:49.000 The one thing that all psychedelics have in common is the dissolving of the ego.
01:04:54.000 They all dissolve the ego.
01:04:55.000 What's that word?
01:04:56.000 Dissolution?
01:04:57.000 Yeah.
01:04:57.000 Dissolution.
01:04:58.000 Dissolution of the ego.
01:04:59.000 That what's happening with all of them is it removes all this Nonsense narrative in your head.
01:05:07.000 Everyone's ego has this nonsense view of the world that's based on them being the most important thing. 0.97
01:05:12.000 And that, you know, all the shit that they're thinking about right now is of the utmost importance, needs to be done right now. 0.98
01:05:19.000 That's why people run red lights. 0.99
01:05:20.000 You can't even wait. 1.00
01:05:21.000 You can't even wait, you fuck. 1.00
01:05:22.000 It's one thing if it's a medical emergency, kids being born, someone's got a broken leg, and you just, you gotta get to the hospital right away. 1.00
01:05:27.000 I get it.
01:05:28.000 I 100% get it.
01:05:29.000 But there's some people that just want to make that left turn. 0.98
01:05:32.000 They don't give a fuck if the light change. 0.98
01:05:34.000 They want to cut in front of you, make that turn, even block traffic. 0.99
01:05:36.000 Because they think more about themselves than they do about other people.
01:05:39.000 And that's a side effect of this life that's been set up.
01:05:44.000 But it's almost like maybe that's how it works.
01:05:47.000 Maybe the life creates challenges when there are no challenges.
01:05:50.000 And the challenges are it just tries to diminish you.
01:05:52.000 It tries to see if you're paying attention. 1.00
01:05:54.000 It tries to weaken you and make you stupid and turns you into a fucking zombie. 1.00
01:05:58.000 If you walked into any restaurant, any restaurant during lunchtime, and you see people on their phones, it's like, this is bonkers. 1.00
01:06:06.000 If this was anything else, where half the room was using an electronic and staring into it for long moments at a time, not interacting with the person across from them, that becomes almost the norm?
01:06:18.000 That at least 50% of the people, and everyone's interrupting everybody, they're all just barely paying attention to each other.
01:06:27.000 Well, they haven't developed the muscle.
01:06:30.000 I mean, it's a muscle.
01:06:33.000 People just assume that the ability to have a conversation is a natural part of being an adult.
01:06:39.000 But I think that's atrophying in a lot of people to the point now where I just try to be, you know, I guess it's like...
01:06:48.000 I just have lowered my expectations to the point of like, I don't know how many people can pay attention that much. 0.64
01:06:56.000 And I know I'm certainly distracted, but doesn't it feel fucking weird?
01:07:01.000 Even if you're just watching TV with somebody and they pull their phone out and start looking at it.
01:07:06.000 Oh, it's so weird.
01:07:07.000 It's like the energy immediately downshifts the moment that it's...
01:07:11.000 Like if you're watching a movie with someone and they're over there on their phone, like, come on.
01:07:15.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:07:15.000 Watch the goddamn movie with me. 1.00
01:07:16.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:07:17.000 Even though we're not talking doesn't mean we're not connecting.
01:07:20.000 It's weird.
01:07:21.000 It's weird.
01:07:21.000 Even fights.
01:07:22.000 If you watch fights with your friends, they're on their phone all the time.
01:07:24.000 It's like, are you not even watching these fights?
01:07:26.000 You can feel it.
01:07:27.000 Yeah.
01:07:28.000 That's why, you know, at the Denver Comedy Works, they've got the Dave Chappelle.
01:07:32.000 The Yonderbags.
01:07:32.000 Yeah.
01:07:33.000 So, like, I was listening.
01:07:35.000 Do you ever listen to an audience that doesn't have access to their phones before a show?
01:07:40.000 They're so mad.
01:07:44.000 No! 1.00
01:07:44.000 Motherfucker, where's my phone? 1.00
01:07:46.000 They talk to each other. 1.00
01:07:47.000 Yeah, it's like the sound is better.
01:07:50.000 It's a better sound out there.
01:07:52.000 It's a different murmur than a phone murmur from a crowd.
01:07:56.000 So yeah, I don't know, man.
01:07:58.000 I think that...
01:07:59.000 I think life presents all sorts of adversity, and some adversity doesn't feel like adversity.
01:08:04.000 It's sneaky.
01:08:05.000 And that's what cell phones are.
01:08:07.000 That's what technology is, and that's certainly what social media is.
01:08:10.000 You only realize what social media truly can do when it comes at you.
01:08:15.000 You know, you get canceled, or there's a bunch of people who are tweeting mean stuff to you.
01:08:20.000 Then you realize, oh, these are horrible feelings.
01:08:23.000 This feeling of being attacked by this thing that's been grooming me.
01:08:27.000 Yeah, it's like, what is that?
01:08:30.000 If the Earth was trying to get rid of us, if the Earth had decided that there's an infection that doesn't think it's an infection, it thinks it's so important that it should be allowed to pollute everything around it, should be allowed to scab up the Earth with giant concrete bandages,
01:08:48.000 I mean, that's what we're doing.
01:08:49.000 We're putting these things everywhere that cover up all the ground, displace all the life, and then we shut off the lights so we can't recognize that we're in space.
01:08:56.000 I mean, the whole recipe is perfect.
01:08:59.000 It's perfect for charming us to sleep.
01:09:04.000 Every aspect of it.
01:09:06.000 The ego part.
01:09:08.000 The fact that it exists, the fact that we have this biological imperative to stay alive and breed and then keep our DNA alive, and there's all these things that are set into you to make sure that that happens, all the while where you recognize you definitely are a finite life form.
01:09:24.000 Right.
01:09:25.000 But yet you do something you hate every day.
01:09:27.000 Yeah, you just keep doing it.
01:09:29.000 Yeah, you do something you don't enjoy.
01:09:31.000 And when you get into reincarnation, which I love, that thing you're doing that you don't enjoy, you've been doing that for infinite lifetimes.
01:09:39.000 Oh my god.
01:09:39.000 That's called your klesias.
01:09:41.000 It's your sort of...
01:09:42.000 It's like underneath your identity, it's basically your code.
01:09:47.000 It's your tendencies, I guess is the way you put it.
01:09:50.000 So like, you know, if you have the tendency to lose your temper, Then that's something that you've been dealing with for infinite lifetimes, and it never ever goes away until you start waking up.
01:10:05.000 Because the idea is to just go from being this set of conditioned responses, reactions to your environment, to being something that's like lucid living.
01:10:16.000 You know, if you want to lucid dreaming, Try lucid living, you know, which is the practice, I would say, of, like, first, what are your habituations?
01:10:25.000 You know, like, the other day, I was sitting on the couch, I took my sock off, and I spun it like a lasso and threw it across the room.
01:10:34.000 And my wife looks at me, she's like, what was that?
01:10:38.000 I'm like, oh my god. 0.99
01:10:41.000 Holy shit. 0.99
01:10:42.000 That's how I've been taking my socks off for years. 1.00
01:10:46.000 Ha! 0.89
01:10:48.000 And I didn't even know it.
01:10:49.000 I'd pull them off, lasso them, and sling.
01:10:52.000 And, like, just that little thing, I didn't even know I was doing something so well.
01:10:57.000 I've probably been doing that since I was a kid! 0.96
01:10:59.000 Like, I probably saw some cool kid lasso his socks and throw it, and I'm like, I'm gonna start fucking lassoing my socks! 0.53
01:11:05.000 But, like, how many other things are you doing that are just like that, that are just pure habituation, pure reactivity? 0.98
01:11:14.000 And this is where you run into Some scary shit, man, which is what Jaron Lanier... 0.98
01:11:21.000 God, I wish you could get him on... 0.99
01:11:22.000 You know who that guy is?
01:11:23.000 Say his name again?
01:11:24.000 Jaron Lanier.
01:11:25.000 I feel like I've heard that name.
01:11:27.000 He is...
01:11:28.000 What does he do?
01:11:28.000 He's an author.
01:11:30.000 He developed all this VR technology.
01:11:32.000 He was in Silicon Valley when it was just starting, working on VR before the technology was even there to have VR goggles.
01:11:40.000 He was building...
01:11:41.000 I think he...
01:11:42.000 And helped his group help build, I think it might be the Oculus Rift.
01:11:46.000 I'm sorry fans of his out there who are upset that I don't know the...
01:11:49.000 But some VR system.
01:11:51.000 Yeah, and he's like, he's written a lot of great books.
01:11:54.000 One of them, 12 Reasons to Get Out, or 10 Reasons to Get Off Your Social Media Now.
01:11:58.000 Really?
01:11:59.000 Yeah.
01:12:00.000 He wrote a book called that?
01:12:01.000 Yep.
01:12:01.000 How do you say his name again?
01:12:02.000 Jaron Lanier.
01:12:03.000 Jaron Lanier.
01:12:04.000 Jaron Lanier.
01:12:05.000 Freaking brilliant human, man.
01:12:06.000 But, um...
01:12:09.000 What's the name of the book again?
01:12:10.000 It's called 10 or 12, I can't remember, 12 Reasons to Get Off Your Social Media Now or Delete Your Account, something like that.
01:12:17.000 There's a book of his I like better than that called The Dawn of the New Everything.
01:12:23.000 And that's just him sort of like talking about what it was like working in Silicon Valley back then and his sort of opinions on this stuff.
01:12:33.000 Is he a white guy with dreadlocks?
01:12:34.000 Yeah, look!
01:12:36.000 Yeah.
01:12:37.000 Hmm.
01:12:38.000 Suspect.
01:12:40.000 Well, no.
01:12:41.000 I think people do judge his meat body.
01:12:44.000 His meat body?
01:12:45.000 Well, his physical appearance or whatever.
01:12:47.000 Oh, is he a large fellow? 0.99
01:12:47.000 He's fucking brilliant, man. 0.99
01:12:49.000 Oh, I believe it. 0.99
01:12:50.000 Listen, man, there's a lot of brilliant people with wacky hair.
01:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:12:53.000 I'm just joking.
01:12:54.000 It's okay to have jokes.
01:12:55.000 I'm defending him because I'm nerdy.
01:12:57.000 What is he doing?
01:12:57.000 I love him.
01:12:58.000 What is he doing?
01:12:58.000 Is those bagpipes?
01:12:59.000 What's happening with this guy?
01:13:00.000 He's playing pipes!
01:13:01.000 Who cares?
01:13:02.000 He's a genius!
01:13:04.000 I don't care what he...
01:13:05.000 But this is just quite a few photos of him with pipes. 0.92
01:13:08.000 Goddammit, I didn't see the pipe photos. 0.85
01:13:09.000 Who cares?
01:13:10.000 I didn't see the pipe photos.
01:13:12.000 When we say pipes, we should say the kind you blow on, like flutes and pipes.
01:13:17.000 Okay, I didn't see that!
01:13:18.000 There's a lot of them, bro.
01:13:19.000 He looks real spiritual.
01:13:20.000 Okay, stop, Jamie!
01:13:21.000 Don't look at it, forget it!
01:13:22.000 Please put that picture back up because there's very few things in life that I love more than white guys with dreadlocks with their eyes closed playing the flute. 0.72
01:13:32.000 There's very few things in life that make me feel like, man...
01:13:35.000 Dude, if I had that picture of me online, I would want people to turn off their social media too.
01:13:40.000 Yeah, that's my guy.
01:13:41.000 Here's a new flute. 0.99
01:13:42.000 Goddammit. 0.98
01:13:43.000 With him, eyes closed.
01:13:43.000 Who cares?
01:13:44.000 He plays a flute.
01:13:45.000 He plays a flute.
01:13:45.000 I bet he's amazing at it.
01:13:47.000 I'm sure he's great.
01:13:48.000 Dude, nothing wrong with what he's doing.
01:13:49.000 I think it's amazing.
01:13:50.000 I wish I could play a flute. 0.99
01:13:51.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99
01:13:52.000 He's playing another flute. 1.00
01:13:53.000 Look at that flute.
01:13:53.000 That's a dope looking flute though.
01:13:56.000 What is that flute? 1.00
01:13:58.000 That flute looks dope. 1.00
01:14:00.000 Goddammit! 0.98
01:14:00.000 Listen, flutes sound cool, and I'm not being disingenuous. 0.98
01:14:03.000 I'm not being sarcastic.
01:14:05.000 Flutes sound cool.
01:14:06.000 I wish I could...
01:14:06.000 What is that thing, though?
01:14:07.000 That needs to go away. 0.93
01:14:08.000 What is that silly? 0.92
01:14:09.000 It's like a zither. 0.95
01:14:10.000 He's in the movie The Hobbit.
01:14:12.000 He's in the movie The Hobbit. 0.97
01:14:13.000 He's in the fucking pub, and he's playing that thing in the back because they haven't figured out real music yet. 0.98
01:14:21.000 Sir, I'm only joking. 1.00
01:14:23.000 I know you are!
01:14:24.000 I appreciate your contributions.
01:14:24.000 I'm just joking.
01:14:25.000 I'm sure you're brilliant.
01:14:27.000 Duncan's one of my favorite people.
01:14:28.000 He's brilliant.
01:14:29.000 I'm just joking.
01:14:30.000 Listen, play the flute all you want.
01:14:33.000 The kind of people that are super intelligent and whacked out on technology, I think something like the flute would be an amazing way to decompress.
01:14:44.000 Right.
01:14:44.000 I mean, you're literally using your body to make a sound with air and tubes.
01:14:50.000 It's amazing.
01:14:51.000 He said he plays like a hundred instruments or something.
01:14:54.000 Sure.
01:14:54.000 He's just some kind of genius, but here's the scary thing he said, which is...
01:15:01.000 If B.F. Skinner's right, and if you can control a thing's environment, you can control it, this is the reason to be terrified of AI. Because the more advanced AI gets, our assumption is that things are going to eat us or kill us or whatever,
01:15:19.000 it might just gradually hypnotize us and hypnotize us by creating More and more enticing things that grab our attention, hacks our neurology, and begins to just do things that are completely impossible to not look at.
01:15:39.000 And when you're saying an AI advised the pandemic, what if that...
01:15:46.000 How do you look away from a pandemic?
01:15:48.000 All of our nervous systems right now are completely fixated on every tremor, every ripple, every little data point that flies across our screens.
01:16:00.000 We are so absorbed in it right now.
01:16:03.000 We are locked in like cats chasing laser pointers.
01:16:06.000 And that is what he said we should be most afraid of.
01:16:12.000 These things eventually could get to the point of completely grabbing us.
01:16:17.000 And what you were saying earlier is kind of, maybe that's what already happened.
01:16:22.000 Maybe that is a process.
01:16:24.000 Maybe it's a process that's not even put in place by anything other than life itself.
01:16:29.000 The life itself has these systems set up so no one thing ever totally dominates.
01:16:33.000 And when it does, they find ways into it.
01:16:36.000 And then it's this constant state of chaos that produces better and better life forms.
01:16:41.000 Right.
01:16:42.000 That's what it is.
01:16:43.000 I mean, if you want to admit or you want to state that we are better than our ancient ancestors, the pre-homo sapien hominids, I think we're better.
01:16:54.000 I think we're better.
01:16:55.000 They might have been stronger than us, but we've created more.
01:16:58.000 Overall, as a species, I think it's better to be a person than it is to be a pre-person.
01:17:03.000 I think as it goes on and on, we're going to think the same way. 0.99
01:17:07.000 I think the next stage of existence is going to be so happy it's not a person running around letting their dick think for them and fucking getting drunk all the time and crashing their motorcycle. 1.00
01:17:19.000 All the dumb shit that people do, all of the dumb shit, from alcohol and drug abuse to fucked up relationships to everything we do to lying and stealing and being selfish, all that shit, we'd be so happy if that all went away. 1.00
01:17:35.000 Oh my god. 1.00
01:17:37.000 Dude, the pre-humans used to eat each other's babies. 1.00
01:17:41.000 They were always fucking stealing and robbing. 1.00
01:17:44.000 They couldn't talk. 1.00
01:17:46.000 They couldn't express love. 1.00
01:17:48.000 Who the fuck would want to be that? 0.99
01:17:49.000 And then the humans. 1.00
01:17:51.000 The humans were so full of shit. 1.00
01:17:53.000 They were all addicted to their phones. 1.00
01:17:54.000 They didn't even see it coming.
01:17:55.000 The phones snuck in their life.
01:17:57.000 They welcomed them with new versions every year.
01:17:59.000 Paying for their own demise.
01:18:01.000 Happily. 1.00
01:18:03.000 And they were all angry and bitter and mean and jealous and fucking thoughtless and polluting. 0.99
01:18:12.000 And then the next stage came along and they eliminated all that. 0.99
01:18:17.000 And we all live in harmony.
01:18:18.000 Now we're all gravel.
01:18:20.000 No, now we're all...
01:18:21.000 Isn't it great to be a gravel pebble?
01:18:23.000 We're all space.
01:18:23.000 Yeah, or just...
01:18:24.000 We're all part of the next...
01:18:27.000 Yeah, and we already are.
01:18:29.000 I mean, I think probably we already are that.
01:18:32.000 To me, I think that whatever's happening, you just have to make it a good thing.
01:18:40.000 Whether or not it is a good thing or not, if there is something great about humans, Is that we're capable of alchemizing phenomena in a way that it doesn't completely drive us nuts or paralyze us.
01:18:54.000 Anything that's happening to you can be converted into something either that's going to make you scared, self-destructive, rationalize your anger, rationalize your shitty decisions, or it can be used as a thing that completely Oh!
01:19:34.000 You could maybe take it down to two times a day.
01:19:37.000 Are you drinking every single night?
01:19:39.000 You can stop that. 0.99
01:19:41.000 And to me, that's like, yeah, the future beings, whatever they are, I hope one of the Or one of the things they look back at is like, holy shit, those poor things had no idea how powerful they were. 0.91
01:19:56.000 They were sleepwalking when they could have, at any moment, connected to the great truth, the divine, the glory of all things, and could have, theoretically, any one of them, just one of them, 0.77
01:20:11.000 could have converted the entire planet into an up-leveled, up-resonanced Up-consciousness utopia.
01:20:20.000 But they all were sleepwalking.
01:20:22.000 And then finally, somebody woke up.
01:20:25.000 For real.
01:20:26.000 And I don't know.
01:20:27.000 Maybe it's a...
01:20:28.000 I don't know what that looks like.
01:20:29.000 Well, maybe what looks like is what this is happening.
01:20:34.000 What is happening right now with this virus where everybody's being forced indoors and forcing us to stop work.
01:20:40.000 It's a terrible thing for people financially, but it is, in a sense, a reset button.
01:20:46.000 It's a real reset button.
01:20:48.000 To know that this shitty job that you hate going to could go away at any moment because all jobs could go away at any moment is a real wake-up call because even the good jobs are going away, right?
01:20:57.000 If you're in San Francisco, you have the best job in the world. 0.73
01:20:59.000 Guess what?
01:20:59.000 You can't even go there.
01:21:00.000 You might have the best job. 0.95
01:21:02.000 You're so fucking pumped to go to work every day. 0.97
01:21:04.000 You can't go. 0.99
01:21:05.000 You can't go.
01:21:05.000 So that can be taken away from you, too.
01:21:07.000 So if you're living a bullshit life Like, recognize that all of this for everybody could go away. 0.99
01:21:14.000 Right. 1.00
01:21:15.000 If Yellowstone blows, half the people die.
01:21:19.000 Right.
01:21:20.000 Easily.
01:21:21.000 Easily.
01:21:21.000 Maybe more.
01:21:22.000 Maybe more.
01:21:23.000 Right. 1.00
01:21:23.000 And that motherfucker could easily go. 1.00
01:21:25.000 Sure. 1.00
01:21:26.000 We need these little catastrophes sometimes just to let us understand that the window of time that we've been existing in that's been relatively free of disaster is unique.
01:21:38.000 And that's not normal.
01:21:40.000 Normal is madness. 0.99
01:21:42.000 Normal is we're in the middle of a fucking shooting gallery spinning a thousand miles an hour around a fireball. 1.00
01:21:47.000 That's normal. 1.00
01:21:48.000 And every now and then, shit flies into our atmosphere and wrecks havoc. 0.99
01:21:53.000 This is why I love Hollow Earth Theory, man. 1.00
01:21:55.000 You ever get into that shit? 1.00
01:21:57.000 Do you ever get into that? 1.00
01:21:58.000 Is that for people to get kicked out of the Flat Earth Society?
01:22:01.000 Yeah, Flat Earth people look down on Hollow Earthers.
01:22:05.000 But Hollow Earth is, to me, my favorite of them all.
01:22:11.000 Because if the idea is, yeah, humans have been on the planet for a long time, and if we want to go into the cool idea of the Atlanteans and advanced civilizations, at some point, if you can't create a way to protect from the meteor impacts,
01:22:27.000 and you're looking to create a sustaining civilization, You're going to want to go in there, man. 0.61
01:22:33.000 And so to me, it's such a fucking cool idea that in the core of the Earth is another sun that has an advanced civilization that hasn't been disrupted by the shit that happens on the surface of the planet. 0.67
01:22:46.000 It turns the Earth into a spaceship. 0.98
01:22:48.000 Inside the spaceship are these advanced beings.
01:22:51.000 And outside the spaceship, it's like a...
01:22:53.000 It's a celestial fungus that's growing outside.
01:22:58.000 Another way to put it would be outside the spaceship is Mad Max.
01:23:02.000 Covering outside the spaceship is just a bunch of us that are inside the thing who have basically been completely disrupted over and over and over again.
01:23:13.000 So they have no idea what history is.
01:23:15.000 They have no idea where the planet came from.
01:23:18.000 They don't know anything.
01:23:19.000 And now we've sort of grown out of control all around the ship. 0.99
01:23:22.000 And so this kind of shit that's happening is like turning on the windshield wipers. 0.99
01:23:27.000 It's like, hey, man, you got humans on you. 1.00
01:23:29.000 You know that, right, man?
01:23:30.000 You're like crawling with them. 1.00
01:23:31.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00
01:23:32.000 Wipe them out. 1.00
01:23:34.000 Get rid of them. 1.00
01:23:35.000 Let's just scrub the fucking surface. 1.00
01:23:36.000 Do us some earthquakes. 1.00
01:23:38.000 Yellowstone is just a windshield wiper for the people who live inside the planet. 1.00
01:23:42.000 But you know what humans are, man?
01:23:44.000 Really?
01:23:44.000 A vector for ideas.
01:23:46.000 Yeah.
01:23:47.000 It's ideas that change everything.
01:23:49.000 The humans just do the work of the ideas.
01:23:51.000 Right.
01:23:52.000 What we are, we're the first thing that can manipulate our environment that has ideas.
01:23:59.000 We're the first thing with ideas.
01:24:00.000 All these other animals, they had instincts.
01:24:02.000 They had ideas in terms of trying to figure out the best patterns to acquire food, how to sneak up on birds.
01:24:09.000 But if you think cats have ideas, well, guess what? 0.99
01:24:11.000 They all have the same fucking idea. 0.99
01:24:14.000 Cats aren't inventing shit, you know, they're not inventing things. 0.99
01:24:17.000 There's a specific kind of idea that's unique to a human being. 0.96
01:24:21.000 Regardless of the sentience of other animals, ours is unique in that it allows us to make stuff, not just little things.
01:24:28.000 We can make gigantic machines that travel in the space and all the wild creations of human beings all came out of ideas.
01:24:36.000 We think it's all humans, but True, we're the ones that put forth, but if you're a thing that wants to get born and you need a host, you get that curious ape that's just been trying to figure out better ways to stab its neighbor with a spear. 0.78
01:24:51.000 Get that thing and slowly infect it with ideas.
01:24:56.000 Ideas of new stuff to make.
01:24:58.000 And then it goes out and does the work for you and then you take over the earth.
01:25:02.000 The ideas have taken over the earth.
01:25:04.000 The people are just the toys of the ideas.
01:25:06.000 Now, if instead of ideas, you said demons, I mean, that's literally what people used to think was happening to folks when they did terrible things.
01:25:15.000 They had bad ideas, they acted on those bad ideas, and ancient religions thought of those ideas like they were demons, like these people were possessed.
01:25:22.000 There was a common thought that someone's possessed by a demon.
01:25:26.000 Still is.
01:25:27.000 We're all possessed by ideas, and some possessed by them more than others, like Elon Musk is particularly haunted.
01:25:33.000 He's possessed by ideas.
01:25:35.000 Swarms of ideas.
01:25:36.000 And what does he do?
01:25:37.000 Well, look at what he's done.
01:25:38.000 He's one guy that's probably had more of an impact on our perception of what the future holds in terms of technology than any other one individual human being.
01:25:49.000 That is widely known of like he is, a famous human like he is.
01:25:54.000 I mean, he's doing Tesla, which is the most advanced electric cars in the world.
01:25:59.000 They're insane. 0.98
01:26:00.000 Then he's doing this fucking loop thing, right? 1.00
01:26:04.000 The hyper or the... 0.94
01:26:05.000 The Boring Project, where he's doing the Hyperloop.
01:26:08.000 He's doing the Boring Project.
01:26:10.000 He's making tunnels under LA and Vegas, and you're gonna be able to shoot through those tunnels going 120 miles an hour.
01:26:16.000 Then he's making rockets that shoot up into space.
01:26:18.000 Oh, and solar power, too.
01:26:20.000 Yeah.
01:26:20.000 Like, what?
01:26:21.000 How is one guy doing all this?
01:26:23.000 What's going on there?
01:26:23.000 Well, that guy's infected by ideas.
01:26:25.000 That guy probably has a huge receptor, and ideas have clung onto him. 1.00
01:26:29.000 Just like some girls have big tits. 1.00
01:26:31.000 Some people have crazy parts of their brain that soaks in ideas. 1.00
01:26:36.000 There's no rhyme or reason to why.
01:26:38.000 But what they are is an antenna for ideas.
01:26:41.000 Those ideas come up and you're like, wow, I'm glad I thought of that.
01:26:44.000 And then you go to work on fracking.
01:26:46.000 You go to work on all kinds of different crazy things that change the world forever.
01:26:50.000 Whoever invented Fukushima?
01:26:52.000 He's like, I'll figure out how to shut it off when that time comes.
01:26:55.000 We'll figure it out.
01:26:55.000 No one ever does!
01:26:57.000 But that person talked people, or that group of people whose ideas all coincided, talked people into building a gigantic nuclear furnace that you can never shut off.
01:27:08.000 Yeah.
01:27:09.000 How crazy is that?
01:27:11.000 That's crazy.
01:27:12.000 It's crazy.
01:27:13.000 We scan the skies for meteor impacts, but we have no way to scan human consciousness for some incoming idea.
01:27:21.000 Because some ideas coming in are going to be great.
01:27:24.000 But there's going to be a few that are really bad ideas.
01:27:29.000 Like, you know, Hitler. 0.72
01:27:30.000 He had an idea. 0.99
01:27:31.000 And it was a bad fucking idea. 0.99
01:27:34.000 And he implemented that terrible idea. 0.99
01:27:36.000 That idea was just floating in the astral plane, gradually just shooting towards Hitler's... 0.88
01:27:43.000 That idea is fueled by an ecosystem and just like you're fueled by nutrients, right?
01:27:49.000 Human beings are fueled by plants and fish and animals and vitamins and all these different things.
01:27:55.000 Well, these ideas are fueled.
01:27:57.000 They're fueled by insecurity and ego and lust and greed and Jealousy and anger and virtue and love and prosperity and comfort and community and all those different components of human consciousness all interact with this idea.
01:28:15.000 So the idea becomes like it just hitches a ride.
01:28:18.000 It hitches a ride with all these ideas that already exist in your brain and then with these pre-existing structures like businesses and warehouses and all these different things that we use to make stuff and then ship it out, then the idea becomes a thing.
01:28:32.000 And then the idea winds up in the belly of a seagull because it looks like a fish.
01:28:35.000 Whoops.
01:28:36.000 Sorry. 1.00
01:28:37.000 You're dead. 1.00
01:28:38.000 You're dead, seagull. 0.99
01:28:39.000 You couldn't figure out that that's a bottle cap, not a fish. 0.78
01:28:42.000 And that this is how things change.
01:28:46.000 They don't just change because of people.
01:28:48.000 We're blaming ourselves.
01:28:49.000 And it is definitely us that's doing the work.
01:28:51.000 But it's all coming out of ideas.
01:28:53.000 If we thought of ideas as a life force, instead of thinking ideas as something you own, something you hold, even though you do deserve credit for your ideas because your discipline to sit down and try to cultivate these ideas accelerates the production of those ideas and exercises the muscle through which those ideas come through focus and energy.
01:29:13.000 So you deserve credit for it.
01:29:14.000 This is not a socialist way of looking at it, but everybody that has an idea that's really good We'll tell you it's like it came out of nowhere like every great bit that you've ever had It's like pop a light bulb goes off and you have this thought and it comes out of nowhere, right?
01:29:29.000 That's like most things that you write that are really cool.
01:29:32.000 They kind of come out of nowhere Yeah, you just sit there and then also you think of things and you write them out They're like they're an idea that you're wrestling.
01:29:38.000 You just catch them and just catch them Man, this is why I love collaborating with people because the more people you collaborate with, instead of just using your own brain as the net to catch these ideas,
01:29:53.000 when you have a group of people sharing whatever the intention may be, whether it's to make flesh-eating robots or to cure cancer or whatever, then that becomes this amazing A solar panel for big ideas.
01:30:11.000 This is, to me, the weirdest thing about when you're working with a group of people or collaborating with people.
01:30:17.000 If someone's off, you will sink to that level.
01:30:22.000 But when you're around funny people, you get funnier.
01:30:25.000 Yes.
01:30:25.000 You know, when you're around like people who can draw, you can draw a little better.
01:30:30.000 It's like something about being in a group.
01:30:32.000 Sure.
01:30:32.000 You know what I'm talking about?
01:30:34.000 Yeah, that works that way with martial arts.
01:30:36.000 Really?
01:30:36.000 Yep, it works that way with pool.
01:30:38.000 When you watch people play pool that are really good, you can play better.
01:30:41.000 If you're a player, like you see someone play really good, you realize like things that they do and you see them and you emulate them and then you can do it.
01:30:47.000 We feed off of each other in that respect.
01:30:49.000 I think that's a big argument for why the Comedy Store is so good.
01:30:52.000 Because there's so many great comics there, and we all feed off each other.
01:30:55.000 That's right. 0.98
01:30:56.000 If you go on after Jeselnik, you're like, fuck, that guy's so good. 0.99
01:30:59.000 That's so funny. 0.99
01:31:00.000 And it elevates everybody.
01:31:01.000 That's right. 1.00
01:31:02.000 If you're there with Delia or Joey or you or Sebastian, like, fuck, man. 1.00
01:31:07.000 How am I so lucky? 0.99
01:31:08.000 Ali Wong and Whitney and Eliza.
01:31:11.000 You're working with...
01:31:13.000 Some of the best people in the country, the people that are killing it all over the country.
01:31:17.000 Bert and Tom, and I keep going on and on and on.
01:31:20.000 And then they're helping you punch up jokes.
01:31:22.000 I got off stage, this is one of my favorite memories there, and Jeff Garland and Whitney Cummings are helping me punch up a joke. 1.00
01:31:30.000 And I'm sitting, I'm just thinking like, what the fuck? 0.99
01:31:34.000 This is like Hogwarts. 1.00
01:31:36.000 How are these two people, who are brilliantly funny, helping refine some ridiculous, just dumb joke? 0.98
01:31:45.000 Do you ever still have imposter syndrome? 0.98
01:31:47.000 Yeah.
01:31:48.000 Yeah, me too.
01:31:49.000 Everybody does, I think.
01:31:50.000 I'm so glad you admit it, man.
01:31:51.000 That's powerful.
01:31:53.000 Yeah, I don't get it as much anymore, but I still do.
01:31:56.000 I particularly used to get it with famous people.
01:31:59.000 When I was around famous people, I always felt weird.
01:32:02.000 Like, oh my god, I'm not supposed to be around these people.
01:32:04.000 They're too famous.
01:32:05.000 They're real famous.
01:32:06.000 I'm just fake famous.
01:32:09.000 It's a weird insecurity that pops up.
01:32:12.000 But I think for you, it's like when we first became friends, you were the guy who answered the phone at the store.
01:32:18.000 Yeah.
01:32:18.000 And that's really those crazy conversations that you and I had when I would call in to give my avails.
01:32:23.000 We would talk to the phone for a fucking hour sometimes. 0.98
01:32:25.000 I know. 1.00
01:32:26.000 About wacky shit. 0.97
01:32:27.000 But those sort of, those kind of interactions that you have with people, they shape. 0.99
01:32:34.000 They shape what you are.
01:32:36.000 That's right.
01:32:38.000 And the more people that you have in your life that are like that, that are interesting, that you feed off and you can have good ideas.
01:32:46.000 We could engineer a society that's way better, that doesn't have all the pitfalls, but we all have to pull our own weight.
01:32:54.000 There's a problem in this society where there's siphoning off of money, right?
01:32:59.000 There's massive moving and exchanging of money in some weird way with banks and mutual funds and all that stuff.
01:33:05.000 It's like, what are you guys doing?
01:33:07.000 How are you so rich?
01:33:09.000 Are you just moving money around?
01:33:12.000 Since they run the financial system, that sort of idea of how everything gets distributed is kind of hijacked.
01:33:20.000 Because they kind of run the system.
01:33:22.000 We all are in the system, and we all clearly benefit from the system.
01:33:25.000 It's the best system we know of.
01:33:27.000 But still, there's some people that are doing some wacky things with the system, and they have giant yachts, and they own 50 buildings.
01:33:33.000 But if that wasn't the case, if it was a more fair distribution, not meaning that you shouldn't be rewarded for your work, but that you can't just kind of hijack money the way bankers can.
01:33:50.000 So much weirdness about using money to make money and that's all you do.
01:33:54.000 You're moving money around.
01:33:55.000 What are you doing?
01:33:56.000 You don't even have a real job.
01:33:58.000 You have a real job.
01:33:59.000 You're not making a thing.
01:34:00.000 You're not writing a thing.
01:34:02.000 You're not teaching a thing.
01:34:04.000 You're just moving monies around. 1.00
01:34:06.000 You're deciding this company sucks. 1.00
01:34:07.000 I'm going to fucking bet on this one. 1.00
01:34:09.000 Whoa! 0.99
01:34:10.000 Those are the people oftentimes that have the most exorbitant amounts of money.
01:34:15.000 It's not saying that they shouldn't have a lot of money.
01:34:17.000 They've figured something out. 0.98
01:34:19.000 I'm saying that the system as it exists that it would allow someone to make that much fucking money from things is a little crazy. 0.99
01:34:26.000 Crazy. 0.99
01:34:27.000 It's a little crazy.
01:34:28.000 It's not saying you shouldn't be able to get ahead. 0.99
01:34:30.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to kick ass. 0.97
01:34:32.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to acquire an extraordinary amount of wealth. 0.97
01:34:35.000 I'm just saying I don't know if that makes sense to keep that sort of banking system, to keep it in place the way it is, to keep the stock market in place.
01:34:47.000 What is it?
01:34:48.000 It's based on confidence?
01:34:50.000 Like, what are they doing?
01:34:51.000 They're moving numbers around?
01:34:52.000 They're buying and selling?
01:34:53.000 And things are getting, oh, it's not worth as much anymore because this happened.
01:34:57.000 Oh my god.
01:34:58.000 Sell, sell, sell.
01:34:59.000 A lot of people are shorting it.
01:35:00.000 What are you gonna do? 1.00
01:35:01.000 I'm gonna buy these fucking idiots. 1.00
01:35:03.000 They're wrong. 1.00
01:35:04.000 Apple's coming back.
01:35:05.000 Yeah.
01:35:05.000 And you're just moving money around.
01:35:06.000 Like, what a wacky way to run an economy.
01:35:09.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
01:35:10.000 Bunch of fucking pill heads. 1.00
01:35:12.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:35:13.000 I used to know these fucking kids from high school that one guy that I delivered newspapers with that went on to become a stockbroker. 0.99
01:35:21.000 That guy was always doing coke. 0.99
01:35:22.000 Really? 1.00
01:35:23.000 He was a madman. 1.00
01:35:24.000 He was a madman. 0.98
01:35:25.000 Well, that would be, I mean, it would probably be fun to be, like, blasted on blow, like, buying stocks, but I would, yeah, I just love the pictures on the stock exchange whenever it's crashing. 1.00
01:35:36.000 Who are those fucking dudes? 0.98
01:35:38.000 Like, it always cuts to, like, the guy whose ties kind of pulled down and he's like, ah! 1.00
01:35:43.000 Dude.
01:35:44.000 Who are they?
01:35:45.000 What is that?
01:35:47.000 I don't know, but until my friend, who was a wild man, became a stockbroker, I didn't think of stockbrokers like that.
01:35:54.000 I thought stockbrokers were like super nerd genius guys that are figuring things out and counting and selling and paying attention to all the markets and moving.
01:36:02.000 I didn't know they were animals. 1.00
01:36:04.000 Like, stock market guys are fucking savages. 1.00
01:36:07.000 Right. 1.00
01:36:08.000 And then the Wolf of Wall Street came along and people were like, what?
01:36:10.000 Well, yeah, that's like my friend.
01:36:12.000 That was my friend.
01:36:13.000 Yeah.
01:36:14.000 These are the type of people that are like, they have a big impact on the stock market.
01:36:18.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:36:19.000 People like that fucking, that crazy asshole that went to jail. 1.00
01:36:23.000 What the fuck's his name? 1.00
01:36:24.000 Madoff. 1.00
01:36:24.000 Bernie Madoff. 1.00
01:36:25.000 Yeah.
01:36:25.000 People like that guy.
01:36:27.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:36:27.000 Like, what the fuck, man? 1.00
01:36:28.000 You're just lying to people? 1.00
01:36:29.000 Yeah.
01:36:30.000 You weren't even investing anything?
01:36:32.000 No. 1.00
01:36:33.000 Oh my god, like those type of crazy assholes. 1.00
01:36:36.000 There's so many of those in finance. 1.00
01:36:38.000 It's amazing.
01:36:39.000 I mean, there's great people in finance, don't get me wrong.
01:36:41.000 There's people that follow the rules.
01:36:42.000 There's people that are wonderful human beings that also exist in that chaotic world. 1.00
01:36:46.000 But it also attracts a lot of fucking sociopaths. 0.99
01:36:50.000 Yeah, well, isn't that the idea? 1.00
01:36:54.000 The sociopath personality type is going to do better in certain industries.
01:37:00.000 Yeah, because you're going to be cutthroat.
01:37:02.000 Yeah, you just have to look at other people as being things you manipulate. 0.99
01:37:07.000 Dude, um, man, I feel like a dick. 0.97
01:37:10.000 Can I show you this thing from my show? 1.00
01:37:12.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
01:37:12.000 Okay, cool. 1.00
01:37:13.000 Why would you feel like a dick? 1.00
01:37:14.000 Because, you know, you... 0.99
01:37:15.000 That was part of the thing.
01:37:16.000 I know, man, but I, you know, plug, you know, that kind of like, here's a clip in my show!
01:37:20.000 Here's a clip from my show? 0.99
01:37:21.000 But I'm proud of this fucking thing, man. 0.99
01:37:22.000 Should we spark up one more time before we see it? 1.00
01:37:24.000 Yeah.
01:37:24.000 I feel like we should.
01:37:26.000 Yeah.
01:37:26.000 You should have a lighter on your side, don't you?
01:37:28.000 No, here.
01:37:29.000 I have a lighter, thanks, Joe.
01:37:30.000 I'm not gonna touch that.
01:37:33.000 Ah, yeah.
01:37:35.000 Right now I just know all the people are like, he's handled his mask wrong!
01:37:39.000 I know it doesn't work.
01:37:40.000 I've got a beard that doesn't work anyway.
01:37:43.000 Ah, man.
01:37:45.000 Yeah.
01:37:46.000 There's a lot of people out there that will critique your technique in lighting joints.
01:37:51.000 Really?
01:37:51.000 Critique everything.
01:37:52.000 I think I have one of the best joint lighting techniques in Los Angeles.
01:37:55.000 I think the problem is listening to them.
01:37:57.000 The problem is not them saying it.
01:37:59.000 The problem is if you tune in to all the stuff, Chappelle's got it right.
01:38:03.000 He doesn't do anything.
01:38:04.000 He's got no social media at all.
01:38:07.000 Man's a genius.
01:38:08.000 You don't want to get contaminated.
01:38:10.000 He's just got it locked in to what he's doing, just constantly doing shows.
01:38:13.000 He was doing shows pretty late up until the cancellation.
01:38:17.000 I did...
01:38:18.000 I forget the last day I did a show.
01:38:22.000 Man.
01:38:22.000 I think it was...
01:38:23.000 I think it was...
01:38:26.000 I don't remember.
01:38:29.000 But by Friday everything was cancelled.
01:38:31.000 By Friday we were like, we can't do this.
01:38:33.000 Yeah, I remember talking to you about that, man. 0.97
01:38:35.000 That was fucking weird. 0.91
01:38:36.000 It was weird. 0.99
01:38:37.000 The comedy store shut down, man.
01:38:39.000 That's like...
01:38:39.000 But it had to.
01:38:41.000 It had to.
01:38:42.000 And for everybody that's skeptical, it's really about old folks and folks that are immune compromised.
01:38:47.000 I mean, if you look at Idris Elba on his Twitter page...
01:38:51.000 That guy, first of all, that guy's a stud.
01:38:53.000 I mean, that guy had a lot of respect for that guy because not only he's a badass actor, but he also had a real Muay Thai fight.
01:38:59.000 He had a real amateur Muay Thai fight. 0.88
01:39:01.000 He was training Muay Thai and he got into it as a fucking huge movie star. 0.91
01:39:04.000 And it's a real fight. 0.98
01:39:06.000 If you watch it, they're really fighting.
01:39:08.000 Really?
01:39:08.000 Yes.
01:39:09.000 What movie is this?
01:39:10.000 Not a movie.
01:39:11.000 I don't know what he trained.
01:39:12.000 He trained it probably for...
01:39:14.000 He was in James Bond, right?
01:39:15.000 Wasn't he?
01:39:16.000 He's done a shit ton of movies. 0.99
01:39:18.000 He's definitely done movies where he had to fuck people up. 0.93
01:39:20.000 So he probably trained martial arts for that, or maybe he just enjoyed doing it, but he really got into Muay Thai, and he actually had a fight. 0.65
01:39:27.000 And he looked good.
01:39:28.000 He looked good.
01:39:29.000 He looked like a really good amateur, you know?
01:39:31.000 And he fought hard.
01:39:32.000 It was a real battle between him and this other guy.
01:39:35.000 But he has it, and he's been doing these videos, updating and talking to people on his Twitter, and he seems fine.
01:39:43.000 He seems fine, but he's really healthy.
01:39:45.000 He's a robust, healthy, well-kept man.
01:39:49.000 He takes care of himself.
01:39:50.000 Same as a lot of these NBA players that supposedly have it.
01:39:53.000 A lot of them are asymptomatic.
01:39:54.000 We're not worried about them.
01:39:55.000 We're worried about old people. 1.00
01:39:57.000 We're worried about people that are overweight, people that smoke cigarettes.
01:40:01.000 But this is a wake-up call to a way worse disease.
01:40:04.000 If this was the avian flu, if this was something that killed 60% of the people, Like, you know, there's an article in The Atlantic about this.
01:40:13.000 I think this is where I found that the avian flu killed, like, it was like 60%, the one that they killed, all the chickens in the early 2000s.
01:40:21.000 It was 60% fatality rate.
01:40:23.000 So if you got it, it was more likely to kill you than not kill you. 0.98
01:40:27.000 Jesus Christ. 0.93
01:40:29.000 Yeah, and they got rid of that one pretty quick.
01:40:31.000 But that kind of one is what we got to be really worried about.
01:40:33.000 This one we have to be worried about for our older folks and our folks that aren't doing well.
01:40:37.000 But it's a good wake-up call.
01:40:39.000 It's good.
01:40:40.000 Look, no one responded perfectly.
01:40:43.000 No one, in terms of no cities, no countries, no one did, but everybody got caught off guard.
01:40:47.000 We have to realize, everybody got caught off guard.
01:40:49.000 We didn't know.
01:40:50.000 The only way they really know that something like this is going to happen is that it happens, and then there has to be a response.
01:40:56.000 So now we're going to get better at figuring out what to do.
01:40:59.000 My hope is that we get through this and then it makes us a little nicer to each other.
01:41:03.000 And then we also realize, okay, we have to have a plan in place in case a really bad one happens.
01:41:08.000 And we have to figure out what steps can be done to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
01:41:13.000 Right.
01:41:13.000 Yeah, man.
01:41:14.000 I mean, that is definitely... 0.85
01:41:18.000 I mean, if we needed something like this, I wish it wasn't something that is going to kill a lot of people's grandparents, and I wish it was something a little less, but damn, you're totally right, man, because it's been a long time since we've had to, 0.50
01:41:34.000 as a planet, deal with a problem at this level. 0.95
01:41:39.000 Teaching us that there is a global civilization is teaching us that we are interconnected and it's definitely inviting us to Reprioritize our lives man because holy shit and there's consequences to living in a way that you don't feel are healthy or ethical One of the reasons why they have those ag-gag laws where you're not allowed to film factory farms is because people would find it horrific and that that would be bad for business.
01:42:06.000 Well, that's not how we're supposed to look at it. 0.96
01:42:08.000 See, that's a symptom of terrible thinking.
01:42:11.000 It's supposed to be the opposite way.
01:42:13.000 We're supposed to make it so that it's not horrific to look at.
01:42:17.000 We're supposed to make it so that it's not this terrible thing.
01:42:21.000 That's the difference between doing things that feel natural and doing things that are horrific.
01:42:29.000 And the horrific ones are the ones where all the diseases are coming from.
01:42:32.000 If you think about these farming operations, let's just think about these wet markets.
01:42:39.000 When you got all these animals in the open air, piled on top of each other, dead animals laying on a plate, dead animals laying on a table, some stretched out on the floor, and you have them all over the place, you're going to have problems.
01:42:53.000 There's going to be air and heat and bacteria's gonna mix with each other, and then it creates things. 0.58
01:42:58.000 That's what happened with the avian flu that happened in animal agriculture, swine flu, same thing. 0.99
01:43:04.000 These fucking flus, these horrible bugs, a lot of them come from animals. 0.99
01:43:07.000 So you don't think it was a bioweapon? 1.00
01:43:09.000 No, I don't think so.
01:43:10.000 I don't think so.
01:43:10.000 I think the real fear, if you talk to all the experts, the real fear is an actual known thing jumping from animal to human.
01:43:17.000 We talked to one.
01:43:18.000 Yeah, when we were at the CDC down in Galveston.
01:43:21.000 I'll never forget it.
01:43:21.000 I'll never forget it either.
01:43:22.000 Scariest fucking interview ever of all, not just that show, just of all time, sitting with that, I wish I could remember his name, the guy who ran the head of the place. 0.96
01:43:32.000 Didn't we have some crazy flight, too? 0.99
01:43:33.000 We flew in and we didn't have any sleep.
01:43:35.000 Dude, we missed a flight because we got stoned and we talked at the airport. 1.00
01:43:41.000 And we talked for like a fucking hour and a half and then suddenly we're like, oh fuck our flight! 1.00
01:43:47.000 That's right! 0.99
01:43:47.000 We didn't just miss it by like five minutes either, we missed it by like 20-30 minutes. 0.99
01:43:53.000 And we were at the airport! 0.96
01:43:55.000 And it was empty at the airport and we're like, oh fuck man, we have to tape this show tomorrow. 0.97
01:44:01.000 Do you remember? 0.98
01:44:02.000 Yeah, so we had to fly a different flight and we barely got an hour sleep, right?
01:44:07.000 I think one of us might have had some metafinil.
01:44:11.000 Oh, that's right.
01:44:13.000 We took that stuff.
01:44:14.000 Yeah, that stuff, if you've never, like NuVigil, if you've never had, or ProVigil or NuVigil, I think they're real similar.
01:44:21.000 I don't remember which one I've used.
01:44:23.000 I think ProVigil is what I used.
01:44:25.000 No.
01:44:25.000 New Vigil.
01:44:26.000 That's what I used.
01:44:27.000 Definitely.
01:44:27.000 New Vigil.
01:44:27.000 The new one.
01:44:29.000 It's not speed, but it definitely gives you energy and it keeps you awake in the weirdest way.
01:44:35.000 But you're making an agreement.
01:44:37.000 Like, okay, here's my agreement.
01:44:38.000 I want to stay up, but I promise to get sleep from now on.
01:44:42.000 I'll get sleep the next day.
01:44:43.000 I'm not going to keep using this.
01:44:44.000 It's not something I'm going to keep using and stay up all the time.
01:44:47.000 No.
01:44:47.000 Well, that's where you go crazy.
01:44:49.000 But that's, you can use it for that. 0.99
01:44:51.000 Like, if you're a real crazy person. 1.00
01:44:53.000 Like, I know some people that use that shit for writing. 1.00
01:44:55.000 They write on that shit. 1.00
01:44:56.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:44:56.000 And they feel like without it, they don't feel like they have any energy. 1.00
01:44:59.000 Yeah, man.
01:45:00.000 I mean, that's the trap of all those things.
01:45:02.000 Anything that's any kind of new tropics gonna do that, man.
01:45:05.000 It's like...
01:45:06.000 But also I think some people from the sleep deprivation, that's where they become antennas for the good ideas.
01:45:12.000 You know, they like to get in this like fevered state of not sleeping for days at a time and go literally insane.
01:45:21.000 And somewhere in there they write really good stuff.
01:45:24.000 That's what the, you know, news radio, the staff at news radio, they used to do that on purpose.
01:45:30.000 Paul Simms is a brilliant guy, the guy who created news radio, and he thought it would be a good idea to have a writing staff filled with a bunch of psychos who were willing to play video games and stay up till 4 o'clock in the morning every night.
01:45:44.000 It was like this mad, vagabond crew of writers that he had assembled. 0.93
01:45:48.000 They would play video games and Just talk shit and then they would start writing at like 2 a.m. 0.99
01:45:55.000 Sometimes but they would come up with these amazing scripts because the scripts were so ridiculous Some of them were so ridiculous and it's because they were delirious when they were writing them They were just instead of doing drugs. 0.99
01:46:06.000 They were doing the drug of just staying awake Dude, this is for me.
01:46:10.000 I've just I'd started doing this about six months ago Maybe a little longer Waking up at 4 a.m., regardless of when I went to sleep, I was having some insomnia. 0.98
01:46:22.000 And so I realized, shit, I'll just wake up when I wake up. 0.99
01:46:28.000 Waking up at 4 a.m., if you have insomnia, that is going to cure your fucking insomnia. 1.00
01:46:33.000 Because when nighttime rolls around, you're exhausted. 0.99
01:46:37.000 But not only that, 4 a.m. 0.99
01:46:40.000 is like the great time for writing weird shit. 1.00
01:46:45.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
01:46:45.000 Because you're still half asleep. 0.99
01:46:47.000 And the stuff you write, it really feels like you're tripping.
01:46:51.000 Especially waking up at 4 a.m.
01:46:52.000 and then eating weed.
01:46:53.000 I was doing that.
01:46:55.000 So do you eat weed first and then start writing?
01:46:57.000 Yeah, well, no. 0.94
01:46:58.000 My system before the fucking apocalypse was, and again, I wasn't doing this every day, but I did do it for a stretch because I got into David Goggins. 1.00
01:47:05.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
01:47:06.000 The Goggins flu, man. 1.00
01:47:08.000 I'm waking up at 4. I gotta go!
01:47:09.000 I gotta go!
01:47:10.000 But 4 a.m., eat weed, go to the gym.
01:47:15.000 And because I was at the gym...
01:47:17.000 Wow.
01:47:18.000 Because I was at the gym, that's where I would write.
01:47:20.000 You were there that early?
01:47:22.000 Well, no, because it would open at...
01:47:24.000 I got there once before the gym opened.
01:47:27.000 You must have felt like a savage.
01:47:28.000 No, I didn't, dude, because what happened was I got to the gym and then I did it. 0.89
01:47:32.000 I felt pretty fucking cool.
01:47:34.000 But then I went into the car and I had like 30 minutes to blow. 0.99
01:47:37.000 And I'm fucking stoned, man. 0.99
01:47:39.000 And I'm sitting there baked. 1.00
01:47:41.000 And I'm like, fuck it. 1.00
01:47:42.000 I'll just like sit in the car and try to meditate. 1.00
01:47:45.000 This is in the parking garage of the goddamn Hollywood Equinox. 0.98
01:47:50.000 Now, let me tell you something, man. 0.99
01:47:52.000 That area of Hollywood is already fucking weird, but I'm sitting there with my eyes closed. 0.93
01:47:56.000 I'm kind of tripping. 0.94
01:47:57.000 I feel like I'm half asleep, half awake.
01:47:59.000 I look over.
01:48:00.000 There are two dudes creeping up to my car window. 0.94
01:48:05.000 Creeping up there. 1.00
01:48:06.000 And I'm like, what the fuck?! 1.00
01:48:08.000 I was sitting in the passenger side.
01:48:10.000 I jumped to the driver's side, started the car.
01:48:13.000 I'm driving through the parking garage, stoned.
01:48:16.000 These two weirdos were definitely walking up to my car.
01:48:20.000 I'm, like, tripping. 1.00
01:48:21.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 1.00
01:48:23.000 Fuck, I'm not gonna work out. 1.00
01:48:25.000 And so I leave, and I'm like, what the fuck? 1.00
01:48:27.000 I'm gonna let these two, like... 0.98
01:48:28.000 4 a.m.
01:48:29.000 weird vampires stop me from working out, so I drive back in.
01:48:34.000 One of them's like leaning up against a pillar, like just staring at me.
01:48:39.000 Creepy, dude.
01:48:40.000 These people look like the Lost Boys or something.
01:48:42.000 Well, they're probably preying on the cars of people that go to work out.
01:48:46.000 They're probably looking for a car to break into.
01:48:48.000 Right.
01:48:49.000 And that's what, like, 4 a.m. 1.00
01:48:51.000 people that are out on meth, and they know that these assholes like to go to the gym and leave their shit in their car. 1.00
01:48:56.000 Right. 1.00
01:48:56.000 There you go. 1.00
01:48:57.000 There you go.
01:48:58.000 It was terrifying.
01:48:59.000 But, you know, that's what you get at 4 to 5 a.m.
01:49:06.000 is you get meth heads and you get people who are trying to improve their lives.
01:49:10.000 It's the funniest mix of people. 0.99
01:49:12.000 You get people who are like, I'm not going to waste a fucking second.
01:49:15.000 I'm going to get up early. 0.96
01:49:16.000 I'm going to exercise.
01:49:17.000 I'm going to write.
01:49:19.000 Because that's when, like, I mean, this is a woo-woo idea. 0.99
01:49:22.000 Feel free to light that shit again. 0.99
01:49:23.000 But, like, there's an idea of prana. 0.99
01:49:27.000 Which is like energy.
01:49:29.000 And there's more energy in the morning than there is at night. 0.99
01:49:32.000 So if you get up at four, you're getting like the purest, most amount of this shit. 0.98
01:49:39.000 So that's why a lot of people meditate really early. 0.98
01:49:42.000 Why a lot of monks get up really early is because it's the most psychedelic time.
01:49:50.000 Way more psychedelic than midnight.
01:49:53.000 Yeah, you're exerting some form of control over your life.
01:49:57.000 That especially.
01:49:58.000 Right?
01:49:58.000 Just that.
01:49:59.000 You're exerting discipline.
01:50:00.000 Like my friend Jocko always says, discipline equals freedom.
01:50:04.000 He gets up every morning at 4.30.
01:50:05.000 There you go.
01:50:06.000 And he puts a photo of his watch on Instagram.
01:50:10.000 Usually it says go time or something along those lines.
01:50:12.000 Get after it. 0.97
01:50:13.000 That's so fucking cool. 1.00
01:50:15.000 Every fucking day. 0.99
01:50:16.000 It's the best. 0.99
01:50:17.000 Driving before the pandemic when there was still traffic, driving around at 4 a.m.
01:50:23.000 You're awake.
01:50:24.000 You're half asleep. 1.00
01:50:25.000 Also, I think it's easier to work out that early because whatever part of you resists that shit is just like weak. 0.99
01:50:32.000 You've got to be careful lifting weights in the morning. 0.99
01:50:34.000 You really want to warm up because you can injure yourself a little easier sometimes.
01:50:37.000 I didn't know that.
01:50:38.000 Yeah, because you're sleeping all night.
01:50:39.000 You're kind of stiff.
01:50:40.000 You want to warm everything up, get everything going. 0.97
01:50:43.000 They say that people lifting weights, it's not the best idea to lift your personal record deadlifts and shit like that first thing in the morning. 0.99
01:50:50.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
01:50:51.000 Yeah, you got to heat your body up. 1.00
01:50:52.000 That makes sense.
01:50:53.000 Your body's more heated up by the end of the day.
01:50:55.000 By the end of the day, you're loose.
01:50:56.000 You've been walking around, doing stuff, looking forward to your workout, getting pumped, and then you can go in there and work out.
01:51:01.000 I used to love jujitsu class at 8.30 p.m.
01:51:04.000 For me, that was perfect.
01:51:06.000 Because jujitsu is like, at 8.30, it's like, man, I got plenty of energy.
01:51:11.000 I've eaten all day.
01:51:12.000 You know, it's like, I'm not tired yet.
01:51:14.000 Like, going to bed tired.
01:51:15.000 But, you know, because back then I was going to bed at like 2 o'clock in the morning every night anyway.
01:51:19.000 But it was like, 8.30 was perfect.
01:51:21.000 Done by 10. I'd hit the Comedy Store, be on stage at 11. That's crazy.
01:51:25.000 I don't like working out at night.
01:51:27.000 I loved it.
01:51:28.000 Loved it.
01:51:28.000 It's great because you have energy.
01:51:32.000 But it's easy to do, because you wake up at noon, you know, and just fucking stumble out of bed, do whatever bullshit you have to do that day if I have my day off, if I'm, you know, doing stand-up at night. 0.94
01:51:40.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:51:41.000 It's easy.
01:51:42.000 You just eat and hang out and then eventually work out.
01:51:44.000 But if you get up in the morning, you get a little bit of a victory.
01:51:47.000 Yeah, man.
01:51:48.000 A little bit of a victory, just having accomplished that thing.
01:51:51.000 You've gotten up, and then next thing you know, you're doing chin-ups.
01:51:54.000 Yeah.
01:51:55.000 Maybe you're doing chin-ups.
01:51:57.000 You don't do any chin-ups?
01:51:58.000 Well, I could do like two.
01:52:00.000 Then do two.
01:52:02.000 More of what it would be is like me sitting on those nice couches at Equinox.
01:52:08.000 Writing.
01:52:09.000 Cause like I so don't want to work out.
01:52:11.000 I would procrastinate and that's what I realized is like I do my best writing at the gym.
01:52:15.000 That's hilarious!
01:52:16.000 So do you bring a little notebook with you? 1.00
01:52:18.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99
01:52:18.000 I just started bringing my gear there to write and then I would just sit and write and I would spend so much time writing because that part of you that doesn't want to work out would rather write. 0.99
01:52:28.000 It's like when you have to write and you find yourself cleaning.
01:52:30.000 It's that.
01:52:31.000 You can convert your procrastination into something positive.
01:52:37.000 That's interesting.
01:52:38.000 Then I would go work out.
01:52:40.000 When I was doing that, man, I was getting the best ideas. 0.99
01:52:43.000 I was just running on the treadmill, stoned at 5.30 or whenever the fucking gym opened. 0.98
01:52:51.000 And I was listening to this like... 0.98
01:52:53.000 I started listening to...
01:52:54.000 That was when I was listening to Goggins. 0.99
01:52:56.000 So I'd be blasted listening to Goggins running on the fucking treadmill like, yeah! 1.00
01:53:01.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
01:53:02.000 I'm gonna do an ultra fucking marathon! 1.00
01:53:04.000 How about that? 0.99
01:53:05.000 I'm never gonna do an ultra marathon.
01:53:06.000 You listen to him too and he's aware that people like me are gonna be hypnotized by him.
01:53:11.000 Because he's like, don't do what I'm doing. 0.98
01:53:14.000 You can kill yourself. 0.94
01:53:17.000 There's all people like these hearts are just exploding. 1.00
01:53:20.000 You gotta build up to it.
01:53:21.000 How many people do you think have collapsed at the gym because of David Goggins?
01:53:25.000 I bet like, what, 30,000 people have just like driven themselves?
01:53:30.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:53:31.000 There's probably a lot of blown out knees out there. 0.88
01:53:33.000 Blown out knees. 0.76
01:53:34.000 Fucked up backs, torn biceps. 0.99
01:53:35.000 That guy will run with his foot falling off. 0.98
01:53:39.000 That book is really good.
01:53:40.000 What's that?
01:53:41.000 It's called Can't Hurt Me?
01:53:43.000 Can't Hurt Me?
01:53:43.000 Yeah.
01:53:44.000 It's amazing.
01:53:45.000 He like sews his calf muscle back on with twigs and becomes a Navy SEAL. He's a badass, man.
01:53:53.000 100%.
01:53:53.000 If that guy wanted to burrow into an elephant, he could.
01:53:58.000 He's a good dude, too.
01:54:00.000 I like hanging out with him.
01:54:01.000 He must be.
01:54:02.000 I've hung out with him a few times.
01:54:03.000 Gone to dinner a few times.
01:54:05.000 Really?
01:54:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:07.000 He went to the fights a couple times.
01:54:09.000 He's a good dude.
01:54:10.000 He's a fun guy.
01:54:12.000 Me and my friend think he's enlightened.
01:54:14.000 He's something.
01:54:15.000 He's something special.
01:54:16.000 There's a switch that that guy has that we all wish we had, where he can power through.
01:54:21.000 But also, he's a beacon of inspiration. 0.97
01:54:24.000 For other people, when David Goggins does the shit that he does, and when he has those speeches while he's running, you know? 0.96
01:54:32.000 Someone was talking to him, it was like 104 degrees outside, and he goes, why are you running? 1.00
01:54:36.000 He goes, I'll tell you why I'm running, because you're not, motherfucker! 1.00
01:54:39.000 LAUGHTER He goes, that's why I'm running. 1.00
01:54:47.000 And he's out there.
01:54:50.000 He's constantly doing it.
01:54:52.000 He's constantly pushing himself.
01:54:54.000 That's what I love.
01:54:55.000 To me, he's like a servant in that way.
01:54:58.000 He's a servant to the world.
01:55:01.000 He's really giving people...
01:55:03.000 He posts pictures of himself when he was sort of Fat all the time, man.
01:55:08.000 He's showing people, look, this is the possibility.
01:55:12.000 At any moment, you can do this at any moment.
01:55:16.000 And I love that, because I know when I see him, he's running through glass.
01:55:21.000 He's running through swarms of mosquitoes and malarial swamps just to show people, look, the part of you that's telling you that you can't do this because of X in your environment, Is probably wrong.
01:55:38.000 Not all the time, but for sure, man, a lot of the time, wrong.
01:55:42.000 A lot of the time.
01:55:43.000 And that, for a lot of us, that's like so powerful.
01:55:47.000 Like, of all the self-help books I've listened to, I listen to them on Audible.
01:55:52.000 That's the best one.
01:55:53.000 By far.
01:55:54.000 Hands down, that's the best one, man.
01:55:56.000 Because it's real.
01:55:57.000 It's not from a guy who really hasn't done anything that's trying to get you motivated to go out there and conquer in life. 0.98
01:56:03.000 It's from a guy who's actually done some really fucking crazy shit and is telling you that you can do it too and that he used to be weak. 0.96
01:56:10.000 He's doing something right now because Cameron Haynes' son, Truett, is trying to break Goggins' 24-hour chin-up record. 0.99
01:56:18.000 So Goggins was at...
01:56:20.000 I think it's on Cameron Haynes' Instagram page.
01:56:24.000 See if he put the video on his Instagram page.
01:56:26.000 But he was at some ungodly number of chin-ups when they were making the video.
01:56:32.000 He's trying to break that record.
01:56:34.000 He's like, I've been doing chin-ups for nine hours straight. 1.00
01:56:37.000 Fuck that. 1.00
01:56:38.000 He was at like 1,500 chin-ups or something stupid. 1.00
01:56:41.000 Crazy. 1.00
01:56:42.000 Yeah, and he still had all those hours to go.
01:56:45.000 So I think it might even be like a two-day thing.
01:56:48.000 I don't know how many days they're supposed to be doing this.
01:56:51.000 But it's some...
01:56:52.000 Does he have it in there with Goggins?
01:56:54.000 Is there a video of Goggins doing chin-ups?
01:56:58.000 I mean, the stories of Goggins...
01:56:59.000 I hope I'm not releasing any information that shouldn't get out.
01:57:04.000 Is this live again?
01:57:05.000 Nope.
01:57:06.000 Oh, there you go.
01:57:08.000 Can't find it.
01:57:09.000 Eh.
01:57:10.000 Whatever.
01:57:11.000 Anyway.
01:57:13.000 You want to see this show?
01:57:15.000 I would love to see your show.
01:57:17.000 So anyway, shout out to Truett.
01:57:21.000 Good luck Truett.
01:57:22.000 Shout out to Goggins.
01:57:24.000 I hope they battle.
01:57:27.000 Alright, this thing, Netflix.
01:57:29.000 What's it called?
01:57:31.000 It's called The Midnight Gospel.
01:57:33.000 The Midnight Gospel with Duncan Trussell.
01:57:35.000 And Pendleton Ward, the guy who made Adventure Time.
01:57:37.000 Beautiful.
01:57:38.000 It comes out 420. Look at that.
01:57:41.000 Netflix.
01:57:42.000 This has never been seen.
01:57:44.000 It's exclusive for your show.
01:57:46.000 They gave us permission.
01:57:48.000 This is Joey Diaz is in this.
01:57:50.000 And this is a podcast I did.
01:57:52.000 I'm taking off my glasses.
01:57:53.000 Yeah, I'm going to take mine off.
01:57:54.000 This is a podcast I did with Damien Echols.
01:57:58.000 Do you know who that is?
01:57:59.000 He was like in the group of kids who got accused of murdering someone in the woods.
01:58:04.000 There's a whole...
01:58:05.000 No.
01:58:06.000 Oh, yeah.
01:58:06.000 There's like a whole documentary.
01:58:08.000 About him on, I think, HBO. It's like, basically, this dude, I had him on my podcast.
01:58:15.000 He wrote a book on magic.
01:58:16.000 He practices magic.
01:58:18.000 Jesus, Duncan.
01:58:19.000 He was on death row, and they did a DNA test that exonerated him.
01:58:25.000 But he was about to be executed.
01:58:27.000 He's on death row studying Zen Buddhism.
01:58:31.000 A Zen priest was working with him to basically...
01:58:36.000 You know prepare him for his death you know as soon as he was badly beaten on death row he was almost executed then he was um exonerated because of dna but uh we did this interview before the show obviously and this is just a way that we figured out to take podcasts and put him in hey once he gets exonerated did it before we start this does he get do they have to pay him i don't know it's a great question i think maybe Part of it that they may...
01:59:04.000 I'm not...
01:59:04.000 I don't want to say because I have no idea.
01:59:06.000 I have no idea.
01:59:07.000 I think they...
01:59:07.000 The guy's on death row.
01:59:09.000 Yeah.
01:59:09.000 I mean, it seems like you owe him something.
01:59:12.000 Well, yeah.
01:59:13.000 He's literally innocent.
01:59:14.000 Yeah, I would think so.
01:59:15.000 He's an actual innocent person that you almost killed and then you made their life hell.
01:59:21.000 Yeah.
01:59:22.000 Imagine the torture of knowing you didn't do something but being accused of that thing.
01:59:26.000 Well, I know, man.
01:59:27.000 And knowing it's going to cost you your life and you really didn't do it.
01:59:30.000 Yeah.
01:59:30.000 Yeah.
01:59:32.000 All right, let's play it.
01:59:35.000 You know how in certain Buddhist traditions, like say Tibetan Buddhism, they talk about, what's the word they use, empowerment?
01:59:43.000 Sure.
01:59:44.000 You know, it's like a current of energy that is passed along from master to student.
01:59:49.000 Ceremonial magic is the exact same thing.
01:59:52.000 The Knights Templar started receiving this current whenever they were over there.
01:59:55.000 That's how it makes its way back to Europe.
01:59:57.000 Eventually, it makes its way to the United States through the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, which was the order that Crowley was a member of before he, you know, went off to the OTO. You had McGregor Mathers, Dion Fortune, the poet W.B. Yeats.
02:00:09.000 All of these people were members of the Golden Dawn.
02:00:12.000 That's how this current makes its way to the U.S. One second.
02:00:17.000 Hey, Steve! 1.00
02:00:19.000 What the fuck? 1.00
02:00:20.000 You need to shine that light in my fucking eyes? 1.00
02:00:22.000 If that's how you're gonna talk to customers, I'll just take my ship full of cats and find another junk island. 1.00
02:00:27.000 A ship full of cats? 1.00
02:00:29.000 Ah, shit. 0.99
02:00:30.000 My apologies! 0.99
02:00:31.000 Look at all these wonderful gifts and gadgets here.
02:00:34.000 We got a fresh printer, time slapper, and some cans, and...
02:00:39.000 You want that?
02:00:42.000 A vintage and lil.
02:00:44.000 It ain't cheap, pal.
02:00:46.000 It's gonna be five cats.
02:00:48.000 He's bluffing.
02:00:49.000 I can get it for three.
02:00:50.000 Watch this.
02:00:53.000 Three.
02:00:54.000 Five.
02:00:55.000 Fine, Steve.
02:00:56.000 Four.
02:00:57.000 And that's my last offer.
02:00:59.000 All right.
02:00:59.000 You're taking flakes out of my minnow's mouth, but fine.
02:01:03.000 Four it is.
02:01:04.000 Send them over.
02:01:09.000 That's so Duncan Trussell.
02:01:11.000 That's so bizarre.
02:01:13.000 Yeah.
02:01:14.000 Yeah.
02:01:14.000 Wow.
02:01:16.000 Yeah, man.
02:01:17.000 It was the craziest thing working on that show with Pendleton.
02:01:22.000 We throw the word genius around, but the guy's an actual genius.
02:01:25.000 So it was really, really, really cool to get to do.
02:01:30.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it's a combination of your podcast and then some interstitial stuff that is scripted.
02:01:41.000 Yeah, it's basically...
02:01:44.000 My character is this guy Clancy who lives in a place called the chromatic ribbon where people use multiverse simulators to simulate universes so that they go inside and harvest the technology and sell it.
02:01:57.000 And so my character has a malfunctioning used multiverse simulator that isn't really working to produce technology and because it's malfunctioning every single World in it is going through some kind of apocalypse.
02:02:12.000 And so my character goes into his simulator and interviews people in the dying world.
02:02:18.000 So that's basically the idea of the show.
02:02:19.000 So we took podcast dialogue.
02:02:22.000 It's basically what happens during the apocalypse, what's going to happen?
02:02:27.000 People are going to do podcasts.
02:02:29.000 People are going to still have conversations.
02:02:30.000 So these conversations, we just set them in these surreal universes where shit's melting down and where Clancy meets these various people and kind of learns from them.
02:02:42.000 What's crazy is you started this a long time ago and it's coming to fruition right when the apocalypse hits.
02:02:47.000 I know, dude.
02:02:48.000 That's the thing.
02:02:49.000 It's like a little on the nose.
02:02:55.000 It's on the nose!
02:02:57.000 It's almost like you knew. 0.99
02:03:04.000 It's almost like you had a tie and then the universe is like this is a perfect time for Duncan shit to come out Let's let's coincide it. 0.86
02:03:12.000 I mean look just look at how bizarre your show is Yeah strange and then the fact that it's a hybrid of podcast conversations and then written stuff So strange. 0.90
02:03:24.000 Yeah perfect time for it.
02:03:25.000 Yeah, you know I think it is a perfect time for it and I hope like because some of the like every guest we It was we chose for this they all had this like Really, like, amazing thing to say.
02:03:37.000 Like, Eccles, in this episode, one of the things he says, you know, I asked him, like, do you feel like you kind of, like, were blessed that you ended up in solitary confinement?
02:03:47.000 Because that's where he woke up.
02:03:49.000 That's where he started meditating.
02:03:50.000 That's where he started studying magic.
02:03:52.000 That's where he started working on himself because there was nothing else to do.
02:03:56.000 Right.
02:03:56.000 And in this one, he says, like, I feel luckier than some millennials out there right now who are, like, completely disconnected.
02:04:03.000 Right.
02:04:04.000 Because that's the coolest thing about him, is you would expect a person who'd been on death row to be bitter.
02:04:10.000 He's the sweetest...
02:04:13.000 Most genuine, wonderful person ever.
02:04:17.000 And it's like whatever went on in the situation of being on the brink of the abyss, where he's about to get murdered by the state for something he didn't do, something about that didn't turn him into someone who was like shell-shocked or angry, but like really turned him into like someone very compassionate and I guess grateful for his life.
02:04:39.000 You know, and that, to me, like, it's like he's like the Goggins of death row.
02:04:43.000 I mean, if you can be not bitter after being on death row for something you didn't do and like getting physically assaulted, you know, just wondering every day if you were going to die.
02:04:56.000 If you can still maintain an attitude of service or contribution to society in some way or another, then any of us can.
02:05:05.000 Any of us can.
02:05:08.000 To me, I hope some of that stuff trickles out from the show into the world.
02:05:14.000 Right now especially, man.
02:05:16.000 Right now especially.
02:05:17.000 When you say he studies magic, what do you mean by that?
02:05:19.000 So, well, he wrote a great book called High Magic, which is – I think that's what it's called.
02:05:24.000 It's a fantastic book on – magic is really the wrong word for it.
02:05:29.000 There's an entire, like – I think? 0.77
02:05:46.000 As we understand it now, because of Hollywood, it's like, you know, ladies riding around on brooms and shit, but it just used to be midwifery. 0.99
02:05:53.000 It used to be, like, healing women who would, like, deliver babies and stuff. 1.00
02:05:58.000 But these were all connected to—they all had pagan roots.
02:06:02.000 And so, essentially, you can— Follow back this branch of data that some people say started in Sumeria or Egypt, ways of meditating, ways of connecting with the universe that are ritualistic in nature,
02:06:23.000 but seem mysterious to us.
02:06:25.000 Because even though, like, if you want to see what it looks like, just look at a Catholic mass. 0.81
02:06:29.000 You're looking at a ceremony.
02:06:30.000 It's theurgy, I guess you'd call it.
02:06:32.000 That is a magical ceremony where bread gets converted into the flesh of a god that you eat.
02:06:39.000 They're all wearing robes.
02:06:41.000 They're burning incense.
02:06:42.000 So that is magic.
02:06:43.000 That's what ceremonial magic looks like.
02:06:45.000 It's non-different from ceremonial magic.
02:06:48.000 Someone in the Catholic Church might tell you, this isn't magic.
02:06:50.000 This is me praying to the infinite and asking for forgiveness.
02:06:59.000 That's magic!
02:07:00.000 You're connecting with a divine intelligence.
02:07:02.000 You're hoping from your connection with a divine intelligence to produce some change in your own psychology, in your own life, and maybe create good fortune or whatever it is you're praying for, healing, whatever it may be.
02:07:16.000 That's magic.
02:07:17.000 So magic is that.
02:07:20.000 I'm not saying Catholicism wouldn't necessarily be considered magic.
02:07:28.000 A branch of magic. 0.98
02:07:29.000 I mean, one of the things he said in this interview is like if the Bible is one of the most powerful magical grimoires there is, I mean, you read that shit, if you really look in it, there's all kinds of bizarre stuff that doesn't seem to make it onto Christian radio. 0.97
02:07:43.000 Like what? 0.94
02:07:44.000 Well, like when in the book of Genesis, it's why are they saying, why do they refer to themselves as a plurality?
02:07:51.000 When God's talking, it's not like if when they're saying like, why do we throw Adam and Eve out of the garden?
02:07:57.000 It's we.
02:07:58.000 If we don't do something about this, they will become like us.
02:08:01.000 We.
02:08:02.000 There's a plurality that's being mentioned there.
02:08:04.000 And so what is that plurality?
02:08:06.000 So throughout the Bible, there's mentions of angels.
02:08:10.000 The book of Ezekiel, the famous one that ufologists go to.
02:08:15.000 There's all these contacts with angels, hyperdimensional beings that have some data set they want to bring to the world.
02:08:23.000 Quite often, depending on what book you're in, it's some terrifying prophecy about the end of the world that's coming.
02:08:28.000 But sometimes it's, you know, some message of hope or some message of healing.
02:08:33.000 So you could say magic is a non-Christian oriented method for connecting with those various things. 0.72
02:08:44.000 Entities using ritual.
02:08:46.000 That's one branch of it.
02:08:48.000 Now, I'm not saying, by the way, these beings exist or don't exist, but you could say, if you wanted to get, like, psychological, you could say we have buried inside of us Archetypes, bits of the collective that are buried deep inside of us and that there are ways to connect to these little fragments of the collective mind.
02:09:13.000 Many people have their own method for doing that.
02:09:16.000 One of the methods to do that might be doing a ritual and for a moment allowing yourself to imagine that you're trying to talk to an extra-dimensional being.
02:09:26.000 Aleister Crowley famously did one of these rituals and contacted a...
02:09:32.000 God, I can't remember what the being was called, but it looks like a gray alien.
02:09:36.000 This is before people were talking about gray aliens.
02:09:39.000 Did he draw it?
02:09:41.000 He drew it.
02:09:42.000 There's a drawing of it, yeah, and it looks like a gray alien.
02:09:44.000 What year was this?
02:09:46.000 It's like the 1800s.
02:09:48.000 Aleister Crowley was in the 1800s?
02:09:50.000 Yeah, right, 1800, 1900s. 0.93
02:09:52.000 Dude, when you keep pulling at your ghillie suit, you remind me of a drunk, overweight girl with large breasts that keeps adjusting her halter top like you're in Florida outside drinking at some motel. 1.00
02:10:01.000 We're having a great night. 1.00
02:10:02.000 I told that motherfucker, I'm going to leave you. 1.00
02:10:05.000 I'm going to leave you, Clarence. 1.00
02:10:07.000 I'm tired of y'all bullshit. 1.00
02:10:09.000 I told that with a cigarette in her hand. 1.00
02:10:11.000 Wow, look at that drawing by Aleister Crowley.
02:10:13.000 Yeah.
02:10:14.000 That does look like a gray alien.
02:10:15.000 Yeah, man.
02:10:16.000 That's what we're going to look like, man. 1.00
02:10:18.000 Let's cut the shit. 1.00
02:10:19.000 That's what we're going to look like. 1.00
02:10:20.000 When you see people that are hairy and brutish, we think of them as being closer to prehistoric man, right?
02:10:30.000 We see a guy covered in hair.
02:10:32.000 He looks more like a beast.
02:10:34.000 And when we see people that are thinner and more slender, they become more a gentle version of people.
02:10:41.000 And we associate that oftentimes with intelligence.
02:10:46.000 Directly associate intelligence with frailty, right?
02:10:50.000 We all do that.
02:10:50.000 When you see some super genius guy, usually they're frail.
02:10:54.000 Occasionally they're badasses, but there's a lot of those super genius guys that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
02:10:59.000 Well, Hawking's the ultimate example because his body literally failed him while he was coming up with his greatest discoveries.
02:11:05.000 So this is...
02:11:07.000 That's our future.
02:11:08.000 We're gonna have big heads. 0.97
02:11:10.000 They're gonna fucking crisper your way into a head that lets you live in any dimension you want at any time. 0.98
02:11:18.000 You transport yourself from one planet to the other. 1.00
02:11:23.000 Imagine what we've done with our stupid monkey brains. 1.00
02:11:26.000 Now imagine it was 150% larger. 1.00
02:11:31.000 150% more brain and then incorporated all sorts of fucking electronics that lets you Interface with space-time around you and all kinds of other wacky ways of communicating We couldn't even possibly imagine now just like people from the 1800s could never ever possibly imagine cell phones, 0.94
02:11:46.000 right? 0.96
02:11:47.000 And this is the idea is like, okay, we're gonna go there and then when we get there The way we understand space-time is going to be different than the way we understand it now.
02:11:57.000 So what that means is, theoretically, you could...
02:12:01.000 Connect or communicate with a being that is outside of space-time, which is a future version of us right now, using like various methods.
02:12:12.000 DMT being one of the big ones on the planet right now, but also using other methods that are a little bit more precise.
02:12:19.000 Because with DMT, it's kind of like you're not really putting in GPS coordinates necessarily.
02:12:24.000 Some people do it with intention, like a shaman will do it like with intention and can like, you know, Excuse me.
02:12:31.000 Can you give me another Bloody Mary? 0.99
02:12:32.000 I told you, Clarence, I'll fucking leave you. 1.00
02:12:36.000 Cigarette in your hand, flip-flops on. 1.00
02:12:38.000 I will fucking leave you. 1.00
02:12:39.000 Clarence, if you keep summoning these demons, I am out of here. 1.00
02:12:42.000 Clarence is over there with Miller like, you ain't going nowhere.
02:12:45.000 Just stop. 1.00
02:12:46.000 Just fucking stop. 1.00
02:12:48.000 You always do this. 1.00
02:12:49.000 She gets drunk.
02:12:49.000 She says she's leaving.
02:12:51.000 I'm gonna fucking leave you. 1.00
02:12:52.000 I'm out of here, Clarence! 1.00
02:12:54.000 Clarence, I'm gonna fucking leave you, you son of a bitch. 1.00
02:12:57.000 I'm putting on my ghillie suit and going down to Tampa. 1.00
02:13:00.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00
02:13:02.000 I'm gonna visit my family in Clearwater. 1.00
02:13:04.000 I'm out of here, Clarence.
02:13:05.000 It's over.
02:13:06.000 Anyway, yeah, maybe you can connect through time and space to these things that are already here.
02:13:13.000 Like, our understanding of time and space, we're locked in, man.
02:13:16.000 But, like...
02:13:17.000 So magic is like ridiculous on one level as it absolutely sounds and is on one level.
02:13:23.000 On another level is at the very least a creative technique so that you can sort of summon a dream state while you're awake with the intent of causing some change in the world around you using for a lot of people what would be considered a non-standard way.
02:13:38.000 Well, just in terms of your perception of how you view the world, you can alter that pretty radically.
02:13:44.000 I mean, from someone who has an amazingly positive perception versus someone who has an amazingly negative perception, you look at the results.
02:13:51.000 Right.
02:13:52.000 Overwhelming benefit of being a positive person.
02:13:56.000 Overwhelming.
02:13:59.000 That propel you in a good way for having a good architecture, for having a good philosophy, having a good operating manual for how you view the world and how you act and behave.
02:14:11.000 Part of that's you getting up at 4 o'clock in the morning.
02:14:13.000 That's what that is.
02:14:13.000 You're enforcing your ability to sort of dictate the positive aspects of your future.
02:14:19.000 You're deciding to take action.
02:14:22.000 You're strengthening your bond with the way you interface with current reality.
02:14:27.000 And I was doing it, I mean, not ritualistically.
02:14:29.000 What happened?
02:14:29.000 Why'd I stop?
02:14:30.000 What the fuck? 1.00
02:14:31.000 Oh, Christmas. 1.00
02:14:32.000 God damn it. 0.99
02:14:33.000 Listen, man, if you want to meet me here, I'll meet you here. 0.99
02:14:35.000 We could do some 5 a.m.
02:14:37.000 sessions.
02:14:37.000 I'd love that, man.
02:14:38.000 Let's do it.
02:14:38.000 I mean...
02:14:39.000 Yeah, I would love that.
02:14:40.000 Let's do it.
02:14:41.000 I'm 100% down.
02:14:42.000 Yeah.
02:14:42.000 Come down here.
02:14:43.000 We'll get pumped. 0.99
02:14:43.000 We'll put Slayer on and fucking rock out! 0.99
02:14:46.000 Rock! 0.99
02:14:48.000 I'm down.
02:14:49.000 What else do we have to do?
02:14:50.000 What else do we have to do?
02:14:51.000 It'll be a great thing.
02:14:52.000 Look, I'll tell you one thing, though.
02:14:53.000 I am enjoying not going out.
02:14:55.000 I'm enjoying it.
02:14:56.000 I'm enjoying being home most of the day other than the days I do podcasts.
02:15:01.000 But not doing shows at night gives you so much more energy.
02:15:05.000 Yeah.
02:15:05.000 Oh, my God.
02:15:05.000 It's crazy.
02:15:06.000 Can you feel rested?
02:15:08.000 Feel good. 0.98
02:15:09.000 I fucking love it, man. 0.95
02:15:10.000 I get to be with my son more. 0.98
02:15:12.000 It's like really nice.
02:15:13.000 The place we just moved into, whoever lived there before us had a flourishing garden.
02:15:18.000 So I've just been going out back pulling spinach out of the ground.
02:15:22.000 Oh, wow.
02:15:22.000 I know, man.
02:15:23.000 So they left you food?
02:15:24.000 They left us food.
02:15:25.000 That's pretty dope.
02:15:26.000 Yeah.
02:15:27.000 That's such a smart thing if you have a yard.
02:15:29.000 I get mad at myself for not having a garden.
02:15:32.000 I don't have a garden right now.
02:15:33.000 I've had one in the past, but I don't have a garden right now.
02:15:35.000 Yeah.
02:15:36.000 I think it's, like, especially now, we should realize, like, man, you should have food in a freezer somewhere, and you should have a garden.
02:15:42.000 That's right.
02:15:43.000 And a gun.
02:15:44.000 I got some elk for you.
02:15:45.000 Do you really?
02:15:46.000 Oh, yeah.
02:15:47.000 Man, the trussles would be very grateful for some elk.
02:15:51.000 I bought a box of these insulated freezer bags for people, too.
02:15:55.000 Dude, thank you.
02:15:56.000 Yeah, that's a nice aspect of being a hunter because you get hundreds of pounds of meat from one animal.
02:16:02.000 So you can share that with a lot of people.
02:16:04.000 It makes me feel real good that I'm giving some to people.
02:16:08.000 Then they send me pictures of cooked food.
02:16:10.000 Tom Papa just sent me this picture.
02:16:12.000 Really?
02:16:12.000 This roast that he cooked.
02:16:13.000 Yeah, he's an elk fiend now. 0.82
02:16:15.000 Tom Papa eats a shitload of elk.
02:16:16.000 Well, I don't think I've ever had elk.
02:16:18.000 You'd love it.
02:16:19.000 It's delicious.
02:16:20.000 I'm going to give you a bunch of different kinds, but the sausage is the easiest to make.
02:16:23.000 Cool.
02:16:23.000 So easy.
02:16:24.000 You just pan fry it.
02:16:25.000 You can do it in butter.
02:16:26.000 I prefer to do it in beef tallow.
02:16:28.000 I just sear it in beef tallow.
02:16:29.000 My favorite way to do it is I get it to like a medium temperature, and then I put tomato sauce in it, and I let it simmer in the tomato sauce.
02:16:39.000 Man, you're the best.
02:16:40.000 That's going to be so cool for my kid to have apocalyptic Rogan elk.
02:16:46.000 That's going to be the best to bring back elk during a pandemic to your family.
02:16:51.000 Well, that's an elk that died from a shot from a bow and arrow.
02:16:57.000 There's something about that to me that there's more power to the meat.
02:17:04.000 Not more power in that it's a powerful thing.
02:17:06.000 More power in that...
02:17:08.000 I know what that animal was.
02:17:10.000 That animal is a wild beast evading predators. 1.00
02:17:14.000 And me, a stupid, doughy human being, managed to sneak into range where I could hit it and kill it in one shot with a bow and arrow. 1.00
02:17:23.000 I even have a video of it. 1.00
02:17:24.000 That my friend Cam Haynes took.
02:17:26.000 So I have this animal that dropped, and then we took it apart and butchered it, and now I eat it.
02:17:32.000 When I eat it, I think of what that animal was.
02:17:34.000 That animal lived a majestic life.
02:17:36.000 And if I didn't take it out, it would have gotten taken out by mountain lions or bears, or it would have froze to death in the winter.
02:17:42.000 Sometimes that happens.
02:17:43.000 Their teeth get ground down.
02:17:44.000 And there's an older male, too, which is what you want to get because those are the ones that have passed their DNA down.
02:17:49.000 So there's a story to that meat, and there's a connection to that meat, and there's no risk from that meat.
02:17:54.000 When you're thinking about the risk to society of these kind of diseases that happen through agriculture, I think one of the reasons why that is is because it's not natural ever for animals to be stuffed together like that. 0.99
02:18:10.000 So when it is, nature's just like, fuck you for breaking the rules. 0.99
02:18:15.000 And then these viruses start spreading. 0.99
02:18:17.000 It's almost like that's what it is for being unnatural because those kind of diseases...
02:18:23.000 Don't exist that much in animals in nature.
02:18:26.000 They do sometimes, like brucellosis, like some buffalo have brucellosis.
02:18:31.000 It's a bad disease that cattle can get, and then it can infect the cattle, and sometimes elk have it too.
02:18:37.000 There's a few diseases, like animals always have diseases, but it seems like those ones that jump to people, the vast majority of them have brucellosis.
02:18:45.000 Come from us treating animals in a very unnatural way.
02:18:49.000 That's true.
02:18:50.000 But dude, I don't mean to get all conspiratorial here, but isn't it a little weird that Wuhan is where that virology laboratory was?
02:18:57.000 Yeah, it is.
02:18:58.000 Yeah.
02:18:59.000 I mean, like, I don't know.
02:19:01.000 To me, they're just...
02:19:02.000 It's weird, but it's also weird that there's bats laying on the floor there.
02:19:05.000 Good point.
02:19:06.000 That's weird, too.
02:19:07.000 And we know for a fact that diseases jump from...
02:19:10.000 They're tracing these things. 0.98
02:19:12.000 This is what's fucked up. 0.95
02:19:14.000 Michael Osterholm, who was on... 0.98
02:19:16.000 He's an expert in infectious diseases and viruses and stuff like that.
02:19:21.000 He was explaining to us how they know certain diseases are morphing and they're changing.
02:19:27.000 They become more and more human-like.
02:19:29.000 And they were talking about this.
02:19:30.000 Actually, this one that deer get.
02:19:32.000 That's called CWD. And it's called chronic wasting disease.
02:19:37.000 And they first discovered it.
02:19:39.000 My friend Doug Duren sent me a synopsis of when they first discovered it.
02:19:42.000 But I believe it existed in like the 1980s is when they first started seeing it in animals.
02:19:47.000 But it was like a mule deer here, an animal there.
02:19:50.000 But now it's infected like a giant population of deer in the Midwest.
02:19:55.000 And they don't really have a cure for it.
02:19:58.000 It's fatal 100% of the time, and it hasn't made the jump to people, but it could.
02:20:03.000 And they're scared.
02:20:04.000 And Michael Osterholm was saying this.
02:20:05.000 Basically, these things are morphing all the time.
02:20:07.000 They're becoming more and more human-like.
02:20:09.000 They're becoming more and more like something that can invade a human host.
02:20:14.000 See that?
02:20:15.000 Bro!
02:20:16.000 That's terrifying.
02:20:17.000 Terrifying.
02:20:18.000 Terrifying.
02:20:19.000 And I think there's a battle constantly going on between these things that hog up too much resources and take up too much of a population slice like humans. 0.98
02:20:30.000 We're on every goddamn rock everywhere. 0.92
02:20:32.000 And nature tries to throw curveballs at you. 0.99
02:20:35.000 I mean, that's what nature does.
02:20:36.000 Nature's like, what are you doing? 1.00
02:20:37.000 You living in your own shit? 1.00
02:20:38.000 Oh, great. 1.00
02:20:38.000 Here's the plague. 1.00
02:20:40.000 That's what's happened throughout history, whether it was with poor sanitation or whether it was animal agriculture, whatever the fuck it is. 0.99
02:20:48.000 People have caught weird diseases throughout time, whether it's different animals that can bite you and give you Ebola, that kind of shit. 0.97
02:20:55.000 These weird diseases have existed forever, and they're basically... 0.94
02:21:01.000 The same as viral panthers.
02:21:05.000 What's a panther?
02:21:06.000 A panther's gotta make sure there's not too many deer. 1.00
02:21:08.000 The panther is the fucking clean-up crew. 1.00
02:21:10.000 Because if it wasn't for that, there would be fucking deer everywhere. 1.00
02:21:15.000 You're from North Carolina. 0.99
02:21:17.000 You know what it's like in the country.
02:21:18.000 It's crazy sometimes.
02:21:21.000 Because North Carolina doesn't have any mountain lions.
02:21:23.000 North Carolina doesn't have any wolves.
02:21:25.000 Maybe they have a little bit of wolves.
02:21:27.000 Not a lot, right?
02:21:29.000 They got some bears, and they got a lot of deer. 0.99
02:21:31.000 They're fucking everywhere. 0.97
02:21:33.000 Like New York State, they have a terrible situation with deer in like Long Island. 1.00
02:21:37.000 There's parts of Long Island that were infested with deer.
02:21:40.000 And they're like, what are we doing? 0.99
02:21:42.000 We can't, what are you gonna, just shoot them? 1.00
02:21:44.000 Just gonna go out and shoot? 1.00
02:21:45.000 They're trying to give them birth control? 0.96
02:21:46.000 They're thinking about giving deers birth control? 1.00
02:21:47.000 Oh shit. 1.00
02:21:48.000 Yes! 1.00
02:21:49.000 Because there's no animals out there to eat them. 1.00
02:21:51.000 So they just keep fucking. 1.00
02:21:52.000 They just keep fucking and overpopulating. 1.00
02:21:54.000 Did you read The Stand? 1.00
02:21:55.000 Yes, I did.
02:21:56.000 Remember that?
02:21:56.000 See, that was one of the things he talks about is how, as they're going down the highway, they would hit, like, herds of deer so thick.
02:22:05.000 Oh, that's right.
02:22:05.000 They would, like, block the highway because they were, like, starting to overpopulate because there was no one there to, like, cull the herd.
02:22:12.000 Dude, I had a gig once when I was living in New York and it was in Western Massachusetts.
02:22:16.000 So Western Massachusetts, if you are in New York where I was in New Rochelle, you could get there in a few hours.
02:22:22.000 It was like two and a half, three hours or something like that.
02:22:24.000 You get to where this area is. 0.99
02:22:26.000 And where the fucking gig was was so infested with deer. 0.99
02:22:30.000 I've never seen anything like it in my life. 0.99
02:22:33.000 You're driving down the street and it was probably...
02:22:36.000 It was hot out, so it was probably the summer.
02:22:38.000 So I was driving down the street and these things are just jumping in front of the car, left and right.
02:22:43.000 I was like, this is nuts.
02:22:45.000 Coming home on the highway was terrifying. 1.00
02:22:47.000 I had to go 30 miles an hour on the highway just with my foot hovering, just ready to stomp on the brakes because these motherfuckers were just running in front of the highway. 1.00
02:22:56.000 I saw a hundred of them. 0.99
02:22:57.000 I saw them all over the place.
02:22:59.000 I might have seen 200 of them. 1.00
02:23:00.000 Driving home, everywhere you looked, there was fucking deer. 1.00
02:23:03.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:23:04.000 Why?
02:23:05.000 Because there's no predators.
02:23:06.000 It's an imbalance and eventually something's gonna happen.
02:23:08.000 And one of the things that has happened is Lyme disease. 0.99
02:23:11.000 These fucking deer have spread this terrible disease to so many people out there through the ticks. 0.99
02:23:16.000 The ticks have jumped from the deer because there's so many of them. 1.00
02:23:19.000 There's fucking ticks everywhere because they're well fed. 0.99
02:23:22.000 And like some ungodly percentage of these ticks have fucking Lyme disease. 1.00
02:23:25.000 Right. 0.98
02:23:26.000 And they jump on people and they give it to people and the people get sick.
02:23:29.000 You know, and then the people have to have a reaction to these deer, so they want to go out and slaughter the deer.
02:23:33.000 It's almost like nature is trying to balance itself out.
02:23:36.000 Right, or is. 0.99
02:23:37.000 I mean, like, you know, for us, the goddamn COVID-19 is the worst thing that's happened to people in their lifetime in the sense, like, the shit we're experiencing right now is completely unique. 0.99
02:23:47.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:23:48.000 But for COVID-19...
02:23:50.000 I guess it's the equivalent of humans, like, colonizing another planet. 0.99
02:23:54.000 Like, that fucking virus, just, like, what it did is for... 1.00
02:23:59.000 It's amazing. 1.00
02:24:00.000 Like, it finally made its way out of one biome into another.
02:24:05.000 Like, it pulled it off.
02:24:07.000 Whoever was down there mutating, somebody had the great idea to, like, do whatever they did.
02:24:13.000 I guess it's, like, to create a way to connect to those two receptors.
02:24:17.000 What's it called?
02:24:18.000 This, like...
02:24:20.000 It connects to these two... 0.98
02:24:22.000 Anyway, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.98
02:24:24.000 That's okay. 0.98
02:24:25.000 But what it did is so spectacular for the virus.
02:24:29.000 What's a catastrophe for humans, it's glory for the COVID-19 virus.
02:24:37.000 Like super organisms that's now sweeping through the human biome.
02:24:42.000 Yeah, and you know what else it did that's really interesting?
02:24:44.000 It made it so that it doesn't give you any symptoms and you're still contagious for days.
02:24:49.000 The worst case scenario.
02:24:50.000 So you can just keep spreading it.
02:24:52.000 Yeah, I was reading, a friend sent me an email from Aspen, where apparently there was one Australian tourist, a bunch of Australian tourists had it, but one guy refused to quarantine, and he went skiing, and went to restaurants, rode the bus, and like,
02:25:07.000 it's like a movie.
02:25:08.000 But it's a movie, right?
02:25:10.000 Like, that's what happens in a movie.
02:25:11.000 There's this new thing going around, and this guy's like... 1.00
02:25:15.000 Fuck that. 1.00
02:25:15.000 I'm here to ski. 1.00
02:25:16.000 Yeah.
02:25:17.000 He's like, I'm here to ski.
02:25:18.000 I'm going to eat.
02:25:19.000 I'm going to a restaurant.
02:25:20.000 I'm riding the bus. 1.00
02:25:21.000 Fuck it. 1.00
02:25:22.000 Wow. 1.00
02:25:22.000 What a dick. 1.00
02:25:23.000 But that's in the movie. 1.00
02:25:24.000 That's what happens, right?
02:25:25.000 There's a guy who's in the lab.
02:25:27.000 And they're like, you have to be quarantined in the lab. 1.00
02:25:29.000 And the guy's like, fuck this. 0.99
02:25:30.000 I'm going outside. 1.00
02:25:30.000 And he has a cigarette. 1.00
02:25:32.000 And then something bites him and runs off.
02:25:34.000 And then that thing carries it in its teeth and bites a person. 0.95
02:25:37.000 And the next thing, it spreads to people and bugs. 0.99
02:25:40.000 And next thing you know, it's a fucking epidemic. 0.99
02:25:42.000 And it goes through this. 1.00
02:25:43.000 And then turns everybody into zombies.
02:25:45.000 Yeah.
02:25:45.000 That's 28 days later, right?
02:25:47.000 Was it a monkey?
02:25:47.000 They were working on some sort of a disease and the monkey got out?
02:25:50.000 It was PETA. Rage.
02:25:51.000 It was an animal rights group trying to free monkeys that an experimental shit had been pumped into them. 0.99
02:25:58.000 And the monkeys attacked the people trying to save them. 0.98
02:26:02.000 And those people instantly turned into zombies and spread through the planet.
02:26:07.000 Well, I was reading about this mountain lion that tried to attack this, I think it was a police officer.
02:26:13.000 Someone, I forget who, but the cops had to wind up shooting the mountain lion, but the mountain lion had rabies.
02:26:19.000 Now, how crazy is rabies?
02:26:21.000 Rabies tricks you into biting people to give them rabies, like raccoons.
02:26:26.000 Raccoons are usually terrified of people.
02:26:27.000 They just run up on you when they got rabies.
02:26:29.000 Squirrels, rats, all sorts of things.
02:26:31.000 They're not scared of you at all. 0.99
02:26:33.000 They'll just fucking jack you if they have rabies. 1.00
02:26:35.000 They come after you and you're like, what the fuck is going on? 1.00
02:26:37.000 That thing is trying to give you its disease. 1.00
02:26:40.000 It's a zombie movie.
02:26:42.000 And if you don't go to a doctor, or if you go to a doctor, they can fix it.
02:26:45.000 But if you don't go to a doctor, rabies is fatal.
02:26:48.000 It's just straight up fatal.
02:26:50.000 There's like one person ever that survived from rabies and he probably wishes he didn't.
02:26:54.000 Why?
02:26:55.000 It probably was horrific.
02:26:57.000 Probably, I mean, I don't know.
02:26:58.000 Does it cause permanent, like, neurological damage?
02:27:00.000 But there's very few cases of people surviving.
02:27:03.000 It's more than 99% fatal.
02:27:05.000 Rabies is a terrible disease to die from, apparently, too. 0.99
02:27:08.000 Oh, it looks fucking awful, man. 0.99
02:27:10.000 But there's a lot of animals that have it, and they want to bite you. 0.99
02:27:13.000 That's so crazy!
02:27:15.000 It's so crazy!
02:27:15.000 It makes, normally, animals that are afraid of people, it makes them aggressive to people.
02:27:20.000 Well, I mean, dude, did you read that thing about that guy who, like, knew he had AIDS and was infecting people on purpose?
02:27:27.000 He was, like, getting off on, like, giving people AIDS. Like, you wonder how much of that was his decision and how much of it was some dark mutation where it started.
02:27:38.000 Yes.
02:27:38.000 I mean, because think of, like, okay.
02:27:40.000 It's trying to spread.
02:27:41.000 I know you do this.
02:27:42.000 I do it.
02:27:42.000 I try not to do it as much, but the spreading of bad news.
02:27:46.000 Like you hear some bad thing that just happened.
02:27:49.000 This person died.
02:27:50.000 This catastrophe happened.
02:27:52.000 You get on the phone and call someone like, hey, did you hear?
02:27:55.000 And there's this weird rush in like spreading the bad news.
02:27:59.000 You're kind of getting off on it.
02:28:00.000 So in the same way your idea swarm concept, it's the same thing with bad news.
02:28:05.000 You become a carrier for the darkness.
02:28:08.000 And so you call it now. 0.98
02:28:09.000 I'm not saying don't tell people when awful shit's going on, but sometimes I notice I'll go through periods where all I'm doing is telling people about shit they should be afraid of, you know, spreading. 0.97
02:28:21.000 And usually the way you do it is through some story about what's happening in the world. 0.98
02:28:25.000 That's really a form of contagion, you know, and then that spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads.
02:28:30.000 And then everyone's freaked The fuck out.
02:28:33.000 And who knows, man?
02:28:34.000 Maybe that creates the condition of sleepiness or sleepwalking that we need for these viruses to appear.
02:28:42.000 Yeah, I wonder what it is that's so attractive to us about breaking the news.
02:28:46.000 I don't know.
02:28:47.000 Did you hear who died?
02:28:49.000 Did you hear what happened in India?
02:28:51.000 When Michael Jackson died, I made a point of every single one who called me.
02:28:57.000 You didn't tell them.
02:28:58.000 I know.
02:28:58.000 And they're like, do you hear?
02:28:59.000 I'm like, no, what?
02:29:01.000 Just to get them off.
02:29:03.000 To let them have the moment of like, I hadn't heard yet. 0.99
02:29:06.000 Like, holy shit, really? 0.99
02:29:08.000 That's hilarious. 1.00
02:29:09.000 Wow.
02:29:10.000 Wow. 0.99
02:29:10.000 No, you've got to be fucking kidding me. 0.99
02:29:12.000 You're joking, right? 0.96
02:29:13.000 Because it's like, you know, for them, I don't know what that feeling is.
02:29:17.000 That's hilarious.
02:29:20.000 Do it the next time some awful thing happens.
02:29:22.000 Like, give your friends the satisfaction.
02:29:24.000 People are going to know now.
02:29:25.000 They're going to hear this podcast.
02:29:26.000 They're going to know I used your trick.
02:29:29.000 No, no, no.
02:29:31.000 It's true, though, man.
02:29:32.000 What is the rush of telling people?
02:29:36.000 I don't know.
02:29:37.000 It's probably built into us, right?
02:29:38.000 Because it's like a survival thing.
02:29:40.000 Like, if you were in a community and you knew a fire was coming, you didn't want to tell people, so there's probably some reward mechanism.
02:29:46.000 The worst is when someone told you, but you forgot they told you, so you try to tell them, and they're like, I told you. 0.98
02:29:52.000 Oh, you shitty listener. 0.98
02:29:54.000 I broke the news to you. 1.00
02:29:56.000 My wife does that to me all the time. 1.00
02:29:58.000 She's like, I told you, dummy. 0.98
02:29:59.000 I'm like, oh no. 0.98
02:30:00.000 I hate that feeling.
02:30:03.000 That's the worst.
02:30:04.000 When you get caught not listening.
02:30:05.000 You're like, yeah, I knew.
02:30:07.000 I was just saying it again. 0.99
02:30:09.000 Yeah, you tried to do some pathetic escape. 0.99
02:30:12.000 From your lack of... 1.00
02:30:14.000 From your failure.
02:30:15.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:30:15.000 No, no, no, I didn't really fail.
02:30:16.000 I did it to myself.
02:30:17.000 No, I knew exactly...
02:30:18.000 I remember what you were saying.
02:30:19.000 I know, I know, I know.
02:30:20.000 I'm just talking out loud.
02:30:22.000 That is the...
02:30:23.000 That's the worst.
02:30:24.000 I don't...
02:30:24.000 That...
02:30:24.000 My wife has done that.
02:30:26.000 Actually, I... Where she's like, wait, well, what did I just say?
02:30:29.000 And you're like, who you were talking about?
02:30:33.000 It was a baby!
02:30:34.000 Dude, when people are around each other all the time, they learn how to filter each other out.
02:30:38.000 They have to.
02:30:39.000 You need your alone space, and sometimes you get it while you're still there.
02:30:42.000 You get it while you're still there by zoning out.
02:30:45.000 You just got to be present more than you are doing that.
02:30:47.000 That's right.
02:30:49.000 That seems to be the key.
02:30:50.000 You gotta zone, man.
02:30:51.000 It's okay to zone. 0.85
02:30:52.000 Like, don't get into something ridiculous.
02:30:55.000 Definitely don't beat yourself up for zoning. 0.87
02:30:57.000 No.
02:30:58.000 Well, especially as a creative person, I think zoning, spacing out sometimes and just being bored, sometimes is where the best ideas come from.
02:31:04.000 Yeah.
02:31:05.000 Because you can sit around and think about things.
02:31:06.000 Like, today, we're never bored.
02:31:08.000 I mean, this is a common complaint about people when they're talking about one of the consequences, unintended consequences of social media addiction is that you're never bored.
02:31:17.000 And that being bored is actually probably not a bad thing because it fills your head up with ideas.
02:31:22.000 You start thinking about things, and occasionally you're thinking about things that are good that you might not have thought of if you're just staring at people's butts on Instagram. 0.53
02:31:29.000 That's right. 0.63
02:31:30.000 Yeah.
02:31:31.000 Boredom.
02:31:31.000 Well, that's like the guy I work with you, like with meditation, this guy David Nickturn, he teaches me about boredom.
02:31:39.000 It's a Buddhist concept, hot boredom and cool boredom.
02:31:42.000 There's two types of boredom.
02:31:43.000 One of them is where you're like, man...
02:31:45.000 That's like the addictive boredom where you're like, I'm going to get out.
02:31:48.000 I'm bored.
02:31:49.000 But there's this sense of like, ah, the other type of boredom, cool boredom.
02:31:53.000 That's more like what you're talking about, which is like just being okay where you're at in the moment, but admitting to yourself, this is boring.
02:32:02.000 Like, that's one of the things.
02:32:03.000 It's boring.
02:32:04.000 Like, I'm bored right now.
02:32:06.000 YouTube videos are more fun.
02:32:07.000 Let me go see something crazy on YouTube.
02:32:09.000 See a car chase.
02:32:10.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:32:11.000 It's a fucking... 0.99
02:32:12.000 Do you ever, like, go to your phone when you wake up at night? 0.99
02:32:14.000 Do you do that?
02:32:15.000 Is that your go-to?
02:32:16.000 When I wake up at night?
02:32:17.000 Do you ever wake up at night?
02:32:18.000 I do, and I try to go back to sleep.
02:32:20.000 I never just stay up.
02:32:21.000 I just go back to sleep.
02:32:22.000 See, that's what I... Man, I gotta stop doing it, because I'll wake up, and the first thing I do, reach over for the phone, start looking at it, waiting to get sleepy again.
02:32:31.000 It doesn't make you sleepy.
02:32:32.000 It wakes you up.
02:32:33.000 It wakes you up.
02:32:34.000 Yeah, it's not good.
02:32:35.000 It stimulates that area of your brain that gets lit up by electronics.
02:32:38.000 Beep, beep. 0.92
02:32:39.000 Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
02:32:40.000 It's so exciting and stimulating.
02:32:41.000 Next thing you know, you're awake. 0.99
02:32:43.000 I do the smoke pot thing, too, and then write, but sometimes I do the smoke pot and workout thing, and then it becomes the smoke pot and write thing, just because the rush right after you get high is like, those are where the best ideas come from, and I feel like you've got to grab those fuckers while you have them. 0.97
02:33:01.000 And if it means postponing your workout for an hour, that's actually the smart thing to do. 0.98
02:33:07.000 It's the dumb thing to do to go through the workout first.
02:33:12.000 Especially if you got high.
02:33:13.000 Because those ideas, they're coming hard and fast for the first part of the high, and you probably won't get them like that for the rest of the high.
02:33:21.000 So while you go from being straight sober to the big rush that you get in the beginning, that's when all my best ideas come from.
02:33:28.000 It's the big rush, which is like an hour...
02:33:30.000 From getting high to an hour later, that's the big rush. 0.98
02:33:33.000 That's when I feel like I get the most, like, where the fuck did that come from ideas? 0.95
02:33:37.000 And the best writing. 0.92
02:33:38.000 Like, when I write things, it's like the cleanest.
02:33:42.000 It's filled with the most gems.
02:33:44.000 There's more stuff in it.
02:33:46.000 And then the other stuff is like editing it and putting it apart and taking it apart.
02:33:50.000 But if you don't capitalize on that rush, I feel like you only get one of those a day.
02:33:55.000 One big, especially like if you're sober and then you get high, that one first high rush of the day, that doesn't last that long.
02:34:03.000 And if you keep staying high, I don't think it's the same.
02:34:06.000 I think staying high, you sort of settle in, right?
02:34:08.000 Yeah.
02:34:09.000 Yeah, but the rush of just getting high is like, wah!
02:34:13.000 So many ideas. 1.00
02:34:14.000 If you wasted that by doing chin-ups, you're an asshole. 1.00
02:34:17.000 I agree. 1.00
02:34:18.000 Just go right, and then lift afterwards.
02:34:21.000 Yeah, for sure, man.
02:34:23.000 You've got to harvest.
02:34:25.000 When the wheat is growing, you've got to harvest. 0.99
02:34:30.000 But it's easy to trick yourself into thinking, oh no, I've got to stick to my fucking workout. 0.98
02:34:35.000 Or whatever the thing is. 0.98
02:34:36.000 It's not just working out.
02:34:37.000 It's like, whatever.
02:34:38.000 I think it's important to prioritize those things.
02:34:41.000 I mean, especially if you're going with what a lot of people say, which is the antenna idea.
02:34:48.000 You're a receiver.
02:34:50.000 You're picking up signals.
02:34:51.000 You're like SETI, but not for aliens, for ideas.
02:34:55.000 And these search for extraterrestrial ideas, that's what you are.
02:35:01.000 You're a satellite for that.
02:35:02.000 And if you start getting...
02:35:03.000 I mean, imagine SETI. Imagine someone at SETI doing chin-ups, and suddenly they get like...
02:35:24.000 Got to write them down.
02:35:32.000 It's kind of like I mean not I don't like you got to honor them honor them, right?
02:35:37.000 Yeah, you don't act on them I mean, that's why people that think of the muse like the concept of the muse That's one of the more it's a productive way to think of it Like Pressfield writes about it and Pressfield in the war of art and he's you know, he's a very down-to-earth He's not a it's not a silly man.
02:35:54.000 He's a very down-to-earth person but his perspective on the concept of the muse it's It's very beneficial if you follow it, because his perspective is essentially that you pay honor to this thing.
02:36:06.000 You show up and you do the work like a professional, and then it responds in turn.
02:36:10.000 It comes to you.
02:36:11.000 We think of an idea, even though it's one of the most important factors, In the entire construction of civilization.
02:36:24.000 But somehow or another, we don't think of it as that.
02:36:28.000 We think of people being that.
02:36:30.000 We are, but we're being used by ideas.
02:36:36.000 I know that sounds crazy.
02:36:37.000 I really do. 0.99
02:36:38.000 I know it sounds dumb, too. 0.97
02:36:40.000 But you're coming up with these thoughts and we're thinking of them as like random connections that you're making in your brain, which might be. 0.98
02:36:49.000 It might be that.
02:36:50.000 But it also might be that ideas are like a life form from another dimension that's trying to manifest itself in our current realm.
02:36:58.000 And they do so through getting into people's heads.
02:37:00.000 And the more you call for them, the more they're there for you.
02:37:03.000 And the more you show up.
02:37:04.000 And you can call that the muse.
02:37:06.000 You can call that whatever you want.
02:37:08.000 Tesla believed it.
02:37:09.000 Tesla believed it was getting signals from some other planet or some other life forms. 0.98
02:37:16.000 He had some weird shit that he wrote that's hard to decipher. 0.65
02:37:19.000 See if you can find that, because that's a very interesting thing, Jamie. 0.99
02:37:22.000 What did Tesla...
02:37:23.000 Tesla had a take on receiving information from other galaxies.
02:37:28.000 He had this take on where some of his inventions were coming from.
02:37:34.000 It's like, what?
02:37:35.000 Or some of the transmissions that he would receive.
02:37:39.000 I mean, goddammit, wouldn't it have been amazing to talk to that guy?
02:37:43.000 Yes.
02:37:44.000 Imagine having Nikola Tesla on the podcast.
02:37:47.000 Who knows, man?
02:37:49.000 Maybe you still can one day.
02:37:50.000 Maybe we can bring him back.
02:37:52.000 Yeah, bring him back.
02:37:53.000 Or, like, create an AI Tesla.
02:37:55.000 I think a lot of people have that feeling, and some of them just don't... 0.99
02:38:05.000 I think a lot of people feel like they have a direct contact with some kind of sentience that isn't embodied inside of them, and it's giving them ideas, and they're just terrified to put it out to the world, because it sounds like you're fucking nuts. 0.97
02:38:22.000 His claims of receiving signals from outer space were proven right a century later. 0.74
02:38:27.000 During the summer of 1899, Tesla set up a field laboratory in Colorado Springs, Colorado to the possibilities of using high-altitude stations to transmit information and electric power over long distances.
02:38:39.000 One July...
02:38:39.000 This is not what I'm talking about.
02:38:41.000 This is about just signals.
02:38:42.000 Not like him getting...
02:38:44.000 I went too quickly on that.
02:38:46.000 Oh, okay.
02:38:47.000 Where is the signals?
02:38:48.000 This is like radio signals.
02:38:51.000 Oh, that he was getting radio signals from other planets.
02:38:54.000 After the ruling out...
02:38:55.000 I think this is about sending...
02:38:57.000 After ruling out solar and terrestrial causes, he concluded the signals must be from another planet.
02:39:01.000 He had a seizure and had a vision, which is what...
02:39:05.000 Like, that's a...
02:39:06.000 Yeah, here it says, one July day while tracking lightning storms.
02:39:09.000 Oh, so this is actually equipment.
02:39:11.000 This equipment picked up a series of beeps.
02:39:13.000 After ruling out solar and terrestrial causes, he concluded the signals must be from another planet.
02:39:18.000 The following Christmas, in response to the American Red Cross's request for a prediction of the greatest scientific achievement of the coming century, Tesla wrote, Brethren, we have a message from another world, unknown and remote.
02:39:29.000 It reads, one, two, three.
02:39:33.000 In 1996, scientists published a study replicating Tesla's experiment and showing that the signal was in fact caused by the moon low passing through Jupiter's magnetic field. 0.99
02:39:45.000 Holy fuck. 0.96
02:39:46.000 He was picking up a moon passing through Jupiter's magnetic field. 1.00
02:39:52.000 Yeah.
02:39:53.000 But he had woo ideas, too, man.
02:39:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:39:55.000 He was in love with a pigeon.
02:39:56.000 He's in love with a pigeon.
02:39:57.000 Not just that, though.
02:39:59.000 I think he did think he was in contact with some kind of sentient intelligence, for sure.
02:40:05.000 Why not?
02:40:06.000 Why wouldn't you think?
02:40:07.000 If you're that smart, imagine how smart he was in comparison to a regular dope.
02:40:11.000 Hey mister, you wanna buy a paper?
02:40:13.000 You know, those people from back then. 0.99
02:40:15.000 Some fucking dude selling papers in the corner. 0.98
02:40:18.000 And then the greatest genius the world's ever known up to that point. 1.00
02:40:21.000 Yeah.
02:40:22.000 Wandering around trying to figure out how to send electricity through the sky.
02:40:25.000 Maybe that's all intelligence is though, man.
02:40:27.000 It's like having the willingness to let yourself go crazy enough to believe you're not the creator of your ideas.
02:40:33.000 To believe that you're an antenna.
02:40:35.000 Maybe that's what makes a person intelligent.
02:40:38.000 Maybe that's all it takes.
02:40:39.000 That and discipline.
02:40:40.000 Well, yeah, the discipline to learn all the things that you need to know to be able to study and actually implement that technology.
02:40:47.000 It's like Tesla was both things.
02:40:48.000 He was a genius and he was probably some sort of a visionary in that way.
02:40:53.000 Like he had, like Elon has, he had an extra large magnet for ideas.
02:40:59.000 Yeah.
02:41:01.000 Yeah.
02:41:01.000 Dude.
02:41:02.000 I think anyone can do that.
02:41:03.000 How strong is this weed? 0.99
02:41:04.000 Fucking strong, man. 0.99
02:41:05.000 I'm so glad. 0.99
02:41:06.000 Anytime you give me weed, I always forget how strong it is. 1.00
02:41:11.000 And every time I'm like, fuck, man. 1.00
02:41:13.000 You gotta be careful. 1.00
02:41:14.000 We go high grade up in this pitch, son.
02:41:18.000 It's important to go high grade.
02:41:20.000 I think so.
02:41:21.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:41:22.000 What do you think is going to happen to us?
02:41:25.000 Do you think we're going to get through this in relatively short order?
02:41:28.000 Or do you think this is going to take five, six months?
02:41:30.000 How long do you think this is going to take?
02:41:32.000 The lockdowns are crazy.
02:41:34.000 Like San Francisco, the lockdown is crazy.
02:41:36.000 Three weeks, 24 hours, stay off the streets, don't go to work.
02:41:40.000 Yeah, man, I think we're probably going to look, like, listen, if you go, if you want to hear my, like, just instinct, which is definitely going to be wrong, I think it's going to go, it's going to get better much faster than we expect.
02:41:53.000 I don't know why I think that.
02:41:54.000 I have no reason to think that.
02:41:55.000 If you go by what they're saying.
02:41:57.000 We're looking at months and months and months.
02:41:59.000 I guess if I have to choose between listening to my own stoned intuition regarding stuff, which fits into my desires, which is I want it to blow over because I don't want people to get sick.
02:42:11.000 I don't want to live in the apocalypse.
02:42:12.000 I have a son.
02:42:13.000 I don't want to run out of food.
02:42:15.000 I want things to get back to normal.
02:42:16.000 I want to go around people.
02:42:22.000 Unless it's some vast, ridiculous conspiracy, I think we're looking at least a couple of months, man.
02:42:29.000 I'm going by not a conspiracy. 0.99
02:42:34.000 Because I have a son now, and if I listen to my own instincts when it comes to shit for my kid, I'm going to be afraid to vaccinate him. 0.95
02:42:45.000 I'm going to be afraid to do things that millions of scientific papers have shown as safe, that's good for his health, because I'm going to get superstitious. 0.97
02:42:56.000 So I lean into science.
02:42:59.000 It saved my life.
02:43:00.000 Science kept cancer from spreading through my body and killing me.
02:43:05.000 I'm going to trust the scientists right now. 0.96
02:43:09.000 Self-isolate and try as much as possible to not spread this shit and I think that that's even if it turns out to be a panic and hysteria or whatever at least you were part of the people who weren't fucking going out and skiing during this fucking thing so I think it's gonna go on longer and I think while it goes on longer if you have the ability to limit human contact and to avoid the superstitious part of yourself that I've got to That's looking at this and thinking like, 0.97
02:43:39.000 come on, really? 0.99
02:43:40.000 I don't know anyone who's sick.
02:43:42.000 I don't know.
02:43:43.000 It's also a rejection from change, a rejection of change that you don't have any control over.
02:43:48.000 Denial, man.
02:43:48.000 You deny that it's happening.
02:43:50.000 Because that's the easiest thing to do.
02:43:52.000 If you deny that it's happening, you don't have to face the fear.
02:43:54.000 And if you don't face the fear, well, then you put yourself in danger.
02:43:58.000 But really...
02:43:59.000 Probably, I don't know how old you are out there, but really who you're putting in danger is somebody's granddad.
02:44:04.000 That's the main thing.
02:44:05.000 And people with diseases, people with autoimmune disorders.
02:44:09.000 People that are compromised.
02:44:11.000 There's a lot of us that are not that strong.
02:44:13.000 Maybe some people are recovering from something, like talking to Jonathan Ward yesterday and his wife's recovering from cancer. 0.98
02:44:21.000 She's going through chemo, so like they want to make sure she doesn't have to deal with any of this shit, like you're not exposed to any of it. 0.97
02:44:28.000 Those are the type of people we have to be really scared of, people that are compromised. 0.99
02:44:31.000 Right. 0.97
02:44:31.000 But this is, you know, this is a fucked up moment for us, but a learning moment. 0.97
02:44:37.000 I really hope that this prepares us in case something really horrible comes down the pipe, and I think, I hope it prepares us for understanding that this is a possibility. 0.91
02:44:45.000 It lets us understand like, hey, we need to accept this, this is how it goes. 0.77
02:44:51.000 And if there's some new shit that comes on, let's act quicker and let's take care of this quicker. 0.50
02:44:56.000 And like if everybody just had a two week off thing, like, you know, and this was something that Dana White and Frank Fertitta were talking about before anyone did it. 0.97
02:45:06.000 Frank Fertitta told Dana White, He's like, why don't we just have everything shut down for two weeks?
02:45:11.000 Just no one go to work, no one do anything, two weeks, stop the planes, and the way he explained it to me was like, he said, pull the band-aid off of it.
02:45:18.000 I'm like, that is actually probably a really good idea.
02:45:21.000 Well, guess what?
02:45:22.000 Now that's being forced, mandatory forced, in certain cities where they've got bad outbreaks. 0.99
02:45:27.000 If they had just done that the moment it cut, the moment it cut loose, just no one goes anywhere for two weeks, let's nip this fucking thing in the bud. 0.96
02:45:35.000 If that was really done, They're right. 0.90
02:45:37.000 I mean, if you could really get that to be implemented at a scale of 350 million people.
02:45:42.000 Amazing.
02:45:43.000 You definitely would have radically slowed down the pace.
02:45:47.000 We weren't ready.
02:45:47.000 We weren't ready.
02:45:48.000 Well, now we know.
02:45:50.000 Yeah, I hope.
02:45:50.000 I hope.
02:45:51.000 I hope we learn.
02:45:52.000 And I hope it doesn't morph.
02:45:52.000 And I hope it doesn't get more deadly.
02:45:54.000 And I hope they can figure out a way to allocate funds to get more respirators. 0.99
02:45:58.000 And all that shit has to be done. 0.98
02:46:01.000 And you can make your own hand sanitizer. 0.99
02:46:03.000 Yeah, I heard that too.
02:46:04.000 But you can just wash your hands with soap too.
02:46:06.000 Yeah.
02:46:06.000 You know, soap apparently kills it.
02:46:09.000 What do you think are like the three things you should have at your house?
02:46:14.000 You should have food.
02:46:14.000 You should have water or something that purifies water, whether they're water purification tablets.
02:46:21.000 You can buy iodine tablets.
02:46:23.000 Why that?
02:46:24.000 Well, you think the city water is going to get turned on?
02:46:26.000 Anything can happen.
02:46:26.000 Anything can happen.
02:46:27.000 You might need to drink water that you don't want to drink.
02:46:29.000 Right.
02:46:30.000 You know, that's possible.
02:46:31.000 You might have to drink puddle water.
02:46:32.000 I mean, look, the reality is, if things go real bad, you might have to drink from a lake.
02:46:37.000 Right.
02:46:37.000 Okay?
02:46:38.000 And that's what water is. 0.98
02:46:39.000 You know, water, we take water from various sources and they purify it and, you know, rainwater and all kinds of other shit. 0.97
02:46:45.000 That's what we're drinking on a daily basis. 0.77
02:46:47.000 We're drinking this weird processed water.
02:46:49.000 Yeah.
02:46:49.000 The water you're really supposed to be drinking is the stuff that comes right out of the ground.
02:46:52.000 That's what you're supposed to be drinking.
02:46:53.000 But if you get stuff that's biologically infected, you get stuff that animals have been in, animal waste, feces and stuff, or bacteria or diseases or anything, you can purify that.
02:47:06.000 You can take these water tablets and you drop them in there and it kills everything.
02:47:10.000 It torches the water. 0.99
02:47:11.000 So in cases of emergency, like backpackers, they'll find an elk wallow and they can drink that water out of a fucking elk wallow. 0.99
02:47:20.000 Really? 0.98
02:47:20.000 Yeah, there's a thing called the SteriPen. 0.98
02:47:22.000 It's another thing they use.
02:47:23.000 The SteriPen actually uses ultraviolet light.
02:47:25.000 Let's say you have a water bottle, you fill it up with elk piss, and you wave your thing, because you're trying to stay alive.
02:47:31.000 If there's no water, if you're on a high country desert mule deer hunt and you can't find any water, you've got to take water wherever you can get it.
02:47:40.000 Because you're not bringing all your water up there if you're staying there for 12 days.
02:47:43.000 You're hoping you can find creeks, and you might not find a creek. 0.97
02:47:46.000 And if you do, it might be fucked up. 0.99
02:47:47.000 It might be a dead animal in it. 1.00
02:47:49.000 Shit. 1.00
02:47:50.000 Something might have gone there to die and polluted the water or beavers might have shit in it. 1.00
02:47:55.000 You have to have something that kills all that stuff. 0.97
02:47:57.000 So that's something that people should have.
02:48:00.000 I think you should have some sort of a first aid kit.
02:48:03.000 Bandages, things like that, disinfectants, antibiotics, stuff like that.
02:48:08.000 You should probably have something like that in case something goes wrong and someone gets hurt and there's no hospital available.
02:48:14.000 Or there's no doctor or you have to wait in the morning before you can take someone to a doctor. 0.97
02:48:17.000 Whatever the fuck the problem is. 0.99
02:48:19.000 You should have that. 0.99
02:48:20.000 You should have batteries that you've charged.
02:48:23.000 Right?
02:48:23.000 Like cell phone.
02:48:24.000 Get some backup batteries. 1.00
02:48:26.000 Charge those bitches. 1.00
02:48:27.000 You know? 1.00
02:48:28.000 If you have a generator, fantastic.
02:48:30.000 But some people can't afford one and they don't have the room for one.
02:48:32.000 They can't have one.
02:48:32.000 It's not feasible if you live in an apartment building.
02:48:35.000 But having charged batteries for phones is very important.
02:48:38.000 Food and water.
02:48:39.000 Food and water are number one.
02:48:41.000 You want to have dried foods, things like rice and pasta.
02:48:44.000 You can store a lot of it.
02:48:46.000 It's high in calories.
02:48:48.000 You can eat it and it doesn't take up too much room.
02:48:52.000 There's canned things you can keep forever.
02:48:55.000 That's what you want.
02:48:56.000 You want food that you could have, that could keep you alive.
02:49:00.000 Well, let me ask you this, man, because this is like something I've been talking to people and myself, I've experienced a little bit.
02:49:06.000 I don't know if you have.
02:49:08.000 But what about those of us who are like kind of secretly freaking out right now?
02:49:12.000 Not so secretly.
02:49:13.000 Yeah.
02:49:14.000 To me, that's like I think one of the big questions is, you know, I was talking to a friend of mine. 0.95
02:49:19.000 And he was like, man, I totally was losing my shit yesterday, man. 0.93
02:49:23.000 And I told him, dude, me too. 0.99
02:49:27.000 Everybody. 0.98
02:49:27.000 Yeah, but how the fuck are we going to deal? 0.98
02:49:31.000 It's just such a weird form of anxiety. 0.90
02:49:34.000 I've never had this kind of anxiety before.
02:49:36.000 There's an invisible monster.
02:49:38.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:49:39.000 Invisible monster that wants to kill your grandma. 1.00
02:49:41.000 Yeah.
02:49:42.000 An invisible monster that kills upwards, the high levels, like somewhere around 3% of the people.
02:49:50.000 And with old people, it's even worse. 1.00
02:49:53.000 With people over 80, I think it's really deadly. 0.99
02:49:58.000 It's fucking scary, man. 0.98
02:50:00.000 And what's scary is this is only one of many that could be coming our way. 0.99
02:50:05.000 Right.
02:50:06.000 And that this happens every X amount of years or something.
02:50:09.000 Last one was...
02:50:11.000 H1N1 and SARS and this and that, and there's always a new one. 0.99
02:50:15.000 And just the fucking flu, man. 0.99
02:50:17.000 I didn't, you know, I didn't, until we were looking into this, I didn't know how many people the flu killed. 0.99
02:50:20.000 Yeah.
02:50:21.000 The flu can kill 90,000 people in America every year?
02:50:24.000 Yeah.
02:50:24.000 Like, I didn't know that.
02:50:25.000 Did you know that?
02:50:26.000 I knew that. 1.00
02:50:27.000 So when they say this is 10 times more deadly than the flu, you're like, holy fuck, maybe 15 times more? 0.99
02:50:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:50:33.000 Holy fuck, that's a million people. 1.00
02:50:35.000 That's a million plus. 1.00
02:50:36.000 Yeah.
02:50:37.000 That's scary.
02:50:38.000 That's scary.
02:50:39.000 That's scary.
02:50:40.000 And then, you know, other really horrible diseases that have devastated populations, those are possible too, and new ones are possible. 0.97
02:50:49.000 Joe, I was asking, how do we deal with the fucking anxiety? 0.97
02:50:52.000 Now I'm feeling the anxiety. 0.99
02:50:53.000 You gotta look at it for what it is.
02:50:55.000 This is reality.
02:50:56.000 The way to deal with anxiety is to be prepared as best you can, accept where you are and what you are and who you are, and just live.
02:51:04.000 It reprioritizes our values.
02:51:08.000 That's what's gonna be good out of this.
02:51:11.000 Nothing good ever comes from having it too easy.
02:51:15.000 Right.
02:51:17.000 For us, I think as a culture, having it too easy was probably a little bit toxic to us, like always eating junk food.
02:51:24.000 We're always eating sugar.
02:51:26.000 That's all we're eating.
02:51:27.000 It's okay to eat cake every now and then, but you can't just live off cake.
02:51:30.000 Well, as a culture, there's a lot of what we're doing.
02:51:33.000 We're living off cake.
02:51:36.000 Have you ever seen that Werner Herzog documentary, Happy People, Life in the Taiga?
02:51:41.000 It's a great documentary about these really nomadic people that live in Siberia, and they're super happy.
02:51:47.000 And they live in these log houses that they build themselves.
02:51:51.000 They show them building these houses.
02:51:52.000 They don't have enough mosquito repellent.
02:51:54.000 They have to make their own mosquito repellent with tar.
02:51:57.000 And they grind it up and add stuff to it and rub it all over their face and everything.
02:52:02.000 They're super happy.
02:52:03.000 They live up in Siberia, dude. 0.98
02:52:05.000 It's so fucking cold. 0.99
02:52:07.000 It's only summer for like three or four months. 0.99
02:52:09.000 It's only like nice out.
02:52:11.000 And then the rest is just bitter, brutal cold where the winter freezes the river solid where you can ride a snowmobile over the river.
02:52:19.000 So they use the river like the highway.
02:52:21.000 And they all have dogs and they run around trapping and killing animals and living off the land and catching fish and living off the fish.
02:52:29.000 Dude, they're so happy. 0.95
02:52:31.000 What's fucked up is these people are encountering life-threatening adversity every day. 1.00
02:52:37.000 If you stay outside, you will die. 0.99
02:52:39.000 You will die just from exposure to the cold. 0.77
02:52:42.000 It will kill you.
02:52:43.000 It's 50 below zero outside. 1.00
02:52:45.000 It will fucking kill you. 0.99
02:52:46.000 And because of that, they're all like happy and smiling and laughing. 0.99
02:52:52.000 And the documentary just shows like it's weird.
02:52:56.000 We're not...
02:52:57.000 We're never happy like this in a collective group unless we're all living in this constant state of alertness and consequences for inaction.
02:53:11.000 There's no lazy people there, man.
02:53:13.000 Everybody does their part.
02:53:14.000 You have to.
02:53:15.000 And they're all working and laughing.
02:53:17.000 And they're all making their own canoes out of boards that they're chopping out of logs.
02:53:23.000 They're hollowing out these canoes and stretching them out.
02:53:26.000 It's amazing, man.
02:53:27.000 They're just always working.
02:53:28.000 And they're always happy.
02:53:29.000 It's so weird.
02:53:31.000 That's it.
02:53:32.000 That, to me, I think a lot of people don't even realize that you can work together with people not for money, just to do stuff.
02:53:40.000 For community.
02:53:40.000 And how fun that is when you find yourself...
02:54:00.000 It's so, like...
02:54:02.000 Feels more alive than I've felt in a long time.
02:54:05.000 I think that's the thing we've got to tune into, is that if nothing else, we're alive right now.
02:54:12.000 That's beautiful.
02:54:14.000 And yeah, maybe this just, maybe we can become like those people up there. 0.77
02:54:18.000 I mean, I think that's one of the, anytime a fucked up thing happens to you, personally, it's a chance. 0.99
02:54:25.000 To become a bitter piece of shit, or a little more angry, or a little more tired, or a little more depressed, or to become a hero. 1.00
02:54:34.000 Anything, whatever it may be. 1.00
02:54:35.000 Any bit of phenomena that comes your way as a person.
02:54:39.000 Anytime something's really gotta get done that I've been procrastinating, or anytime some shitty, unexpected thing comes my way, I have a moment to decide, am I gonna react to this?
02:54:52.000 I always react to shitty things and become negative or dark or get pissed.
02:54:58.000 Or can I react to it in a completely new way?
02:55:01.000 And I think every time you do a new way, this is my woo-woo concept, you pop into a different part of the multiverse.
02:55:08.000 It's a little better than the one you were in before.
02:55:12.000 And it's like a trajectory you can go on.
02:55:14.000 When I was getting stoned at the gym at 4am, I was imagining on the treadmill that I was running, Through the multiverse towards a healthier version of me.
02:55:23.000 That I wasn't getting in shape.
02:55:25.000 I was actually being inhaled into a more in shape version of me that already existed. 0.99
02:55:32.000 That's the kind of shit I have to do to get myself to work out. 0.99
02:55:34.000 Dude. 1.00
02:55:35.000 That's heavy.
02:55:36.000 Yeah, man.
02:55:37.000 It's fun to do that, you know?
02:55:39.000 Every single decision is like a binary. 0.98
02:55:42.000 Do you want to continue doing the shit you've been doing over and over again? 0.99
02:55:46.000 Whatever it may be. 1.00
02:55:47.000 Or do you want to try a mildly new way? 0.98
02:55:49.000 And every time you do that, sure as shit, it's not just you that starts changing. 0.92
02:55:54.000 You'll notice, like, other stuff starts changing too around you. 0.98
02:55:58.000 You know, things just tend to generally get better.
02:56:02.000 Yeah.
02:56:04.000 I think there's thoughts that I've had that are real similar to that, where I've wondered, like, if multiverses are real, and there's supposed to be different versions of you, infinite versions all over the universe,
02:56:21.000 why are we assuming that this is the same, every day you wake up in the same version?
02:56:26.000 Why are we assuming that?
02:56:27.000 Exactly.
02:56:28.000 The thing about sleep is you just go away.
02:56:31.000 Then you come back with a memory of what life was like before you went away.
02:56:34.000 Yeah.
02:56:35.000 And you wouldn't notice if it just slid you one notch to the right or one notch to the left into the multiverse.
02:56:42.000 If there's an infinite number of Duncans out there with ghillie suits and gas masks on. 0.75
02:56:46.000 Yeah.
02:56:46.000 And you just slid over to the right by letting a little old lady in front of you and not even complaining when she was driving 30 miles an hour.
02:56:53.000 That's it.
02:56:54.000 You're like, it's alright.
02:56:55.000 She's a nice lady. 1.00
02:56:56.000 Let me just get around her nice and slow and safe. 0.99
02:56:58.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:56:59.000 Wave to her.
02:57:00.000 Hi!
02:57:01.000 And the more you do that, the more you do that, the more you start running into other people who are doing the same thing.
02:57:07.000 You start ending up in that part of the multiverse where many other people are doing the same thing.
02:57:12.000 And eventually... 0.99
02:57:14.000 You know, theoretically, I think, eventually through those series of decisions, maybe that's where you can like, that's where all of a sudden you start realizing like, oh shit. 1.00
02:57:25.000 Oh shit, I'm in a temple. 0.99
02:57:27.000 I'm not even in a reality that I thought I was in. 1.00
02:57:30.000 I was just like in a deep state of contemplative meditation.
02:57:34.000 I don't know.
02:57:35.000 I mean, there's all kinds of interesting experiments you can do.
02:57:39.000 Have you ever heard the term pro-noia?
02:57:41.000 It's the opposite of paranoia where you think the universe is conspiring to help you instead of hurt you.
02:57:49.000 That's brilliant.
02:57:50.000 Yeah.
02:57:50.000 Maybe that's what we'll call our group.
02:57:52.000 Pronoia.
02:57:53.000 Pronoia.
02:57:54.000 Yeah.
02:57:54.000 Yes.
02:57:54.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:57:55.000 Perfect.
02:57:56.000 Yeah.
02:57:56.000 Yeah, we needed a name, then it just came to us.
02:57:58.000 Pronoia.
02:57:59.000 Sounds like a dope band.
02:58:00.000 Yeah.
02:58:01.000 Gonna go see Pronoia at the Staples Center.
02:58:03.000 Pronoia.
02:58:04.000 It's fun.
02:58:05.000 If you do that, if you really do imagine that every single thing that's happening in your life is a grand conspiracy to help you to advance you to bring you or another way to put it.
02:58:16.000 Do you ever listen?
02:58:16.000 I love listening to Christian radio.
02:58:18.000 This guy was talking about a thing called convection, which is being inhaled into the Christ.
02:58:24.000 So when you start like like a black hole.
02:58:28.000 I think like a white hole.
02:58:30.000 I guess it would be a black hole.
02:58:32.000 A gobbling up planet?
02:58:33.000 Like you're being drawn into the super intelligence and you're being sort of lifted up into it. 0.99
02:58:42.000 The thing that makes the fucking big green egg work. 0.99
02:58:44.000 The thing that sucks smoke up. 0.99
02:58:46.000 That's happening to you into the divine intelligence.
02:58:49.000 And as it happens, you imagine you're the one doing the stuff to get you closer to it.
02:58:55.000 But really, it's just your mind.
02:58:58.000 Playing tricks on you.
02:58:59.000 You have no choice.
02:59:00.000 You're gonna wake up.
02:59:02.000 You're gonna gain realization.
02:59:04.000 And so as that's happening, you can quit something.
02:59:09.000 You can quit drinking.
02:59:10.000 You can quit smoking.
02:59:11.000 But you kind of long for it.
02:59:13.000 But then sometimes you notice you just stop doing shit that was bad for you because you found a better way to live and it naturally falls away.
02:59:20.000 That's convection. 0.74
02:59:22.000 You're being drawn into the divine mind. 0.97
02:59:24.000 As that happens, the shit that looks like austerity, when you're further away, begins to actually just be a natural way that you act. 0.97
02:59:33.000 You just become naturally more graceful, naturally less inclined to do shitty things, naturally more tuned in with the 150-year-old version of you. 0.98
02:59:43.000 That just happens on its own.
02:59:47.000 Because you're being convected into the Christ, sucked into the omega point.
02:59:53.000 The divine.
02:59:54.000 Yeah.
02:59:59.000 We should probably leave on that.
03:00:03.000 Should we end on that?
03:00:03.000 Yeah.
03:00:04.000 That's the perfect way to end, right?
03:00:05.000 Thanks, man.
03:00:06.000 Thanks for letting me come on your show.
03:00:07.000 It's 4 o'clock. 0.98
03:00:09.000 How the fuck did that happen? 1.00
03:00:11.000 What the fuck? 1.00
03:00:13.000 Time warp, right? 1.00
03:00:15.000 This was a total time warp episode.
03:00:17.000 You and I always have the strangest episodes, man.
03:00:20.000 We really do.
03:00:21.000 I don't believe it's 4. It's almost 4. It's 3.46.
03:00:25.000 Normally I would have had to piss like three times.
03:00:28.000 You're evolving.
03:00:29.000 Dung and Trussell, tell everybody when your show is out.
03:00:32.000 Thank you, Joe.
03:00:33.000 April 20th on Netflix, The Midnight Gospel.
03:00:37.000 You can follow The Midnight Gospel on Twitter and Instagram.
03:00:41.000 And thanks.
03:00:43.000 Pendleton for making the show with me.
03:00:44.000 Thanks, y'all, for watching it.
03:00:45.000 Thanks for letting me plug it on your show, man.
03:00:48.000 It looks awesome.
03:00:48.000 I can't wait to watch it.
03:00:49.000 It looks so Duncan Trussell.
03:00:51.000 Thank you, Joe.
03:00:51.000 It's very you.
03:00:52.000 All right.
03:00:53.000 We're going to keep on keeping on, folks.
03:00:55.000 Stay healthy out there.
03:00:56.000 Much love.
03:00:57.000 Bye.
03:00:57.000 Hare Krishna.
03:01:01.000 Damn. 1.00