The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1466 - Jessimae Peluso

00:00:00.000 Three, two, one.

00:00:01.000 Jessie Mae.

00:00:03.000 Rogan.

00:00:04.000 Good to see you.

00:00:05.000 Joseph.

00:00:06.000 Do people call you Joseph?

00:00:07.000 My mom does.

00:00:08.000 Oh, that's sweet.

00:00:09.000 Yeah.

00:00:09.000 What's your middle name?

00:00:10.000 She's basically it.

00:00:10.000 James.

00:00:11.000 Joseph James.

00:00:12.000 Sounds like an author.

00:00:13.000 Maybe I should write books.

00:00:14.000 I can't believe you haven't written a book.

00:00:15.000 I tried.

00:00:16.000 I started doing one a long time ago.

00:00:19.000 I had a deal for a book like 12 years ago.

00:00:22.000 And the dealing with the editors was so gross.

00:00:25.000 They basically wanted me to just transcribe stand-up. 0.99

00:00:28.000 And I wanted to write a bunch of weird shit. 0.99

00:00:31.000 Didn't Judy Carter already do that? 1.00

00:00:32.000 Bah! 0.97

00:00:34.000 Do you remember that book?

00:00:36.000 Is that the worst genre ever?

00:00:38.000 Books on how to do stand-up?

00:00:40.000 They might be the most piss-poor books ever.

00:00:42.000 Belzer had a pretty good one.

00:00:44.000 Belzer had a decent one.

00:00:45.000 I think it was...

00:00:46.000 He had a couple of them.

00:00:49.000 He had one on stand-up and he had one on UFOs, Bigfoot, and JFK. Belzer is a great...

00:00:53.000 Those all go together.

00:00:54.000 Do you know him, Richard Belzer?

00:00:56.000 I don't know him personally, but he's a legend for sure. 0.81

00:00:58.000 He's a crazy conspiracy theorist. 0.65

00:01:01.000 That makes sense. 0.90

00:01:02.000 Off the deep end.

00:01:02.000 Yeah.

00:01:03.000 Yeah.

00:01:03.000 Is he, like, rate him with Sam Tripoli?

00:01:06.000 Is it just as crazy?

00:01:07.000 No, maybe more.

00:01:08.000 Wow.

00:01:08.000 Yeah, he's...

00:01:09.000 I don't know if they believe in the same things.

00:01:12.000 Because it's funny, like, there's, like, classifications of conspiracy theorists.

00:01:15.000 Like, some conspiracy theorists are balls deep in, like, JFK. But you try to bring up 5G, and they're like, get the fuck out of here with your 5G. So is Marilyn Monroe. 0.88

00:01:23.000 Yeah.

00:01:24.000 Balls deep in JFK. It was a little sex joke. 0.99

00:01:27.000 I mean, well, I guess he was balls deep in her. 0.98

00:01:29.000 Allegedly.

00:01:30.000 But I mean, who knows?

00:01:30.000 Who knows what they were into behind closed doors?

00:01:32.000 She could have strapped one.

00:01:33.000 That's a good conspiracy theory, too.

00:01:35.000 Do you think they killed her?

00:01:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:36.000 100%, right?

00:01:37.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:01:38.000 Snitches, bitches get snitches. 1.00

00:01:40.000 Is that what it is? 1.00

00:01:41.000 There's stitches that happen with bitches. 1.00

00:01:43.000 Snitches get stitches. 1.00

00:01:44.000 Bitches who are snitches get stitches. 1.00

00:01:46.000 Yeah, or no stitches because you're just dead. 1.00

00:01:47.000 Yeah, you're dead.

00:01:48.000 You get the ultimate stitch of life. 0.99

00:01:50.000 Which is just done. 0.99

00:01:51.000 For sure they killed her. 0.85

00:01:53.000 So if you were going to write a book today, what would it be about?

00:01:55.000 Oh, I don't know if I would do it today.

00:01:57.000 I don't know.

00:01:59.000 Maybe this is what I should be doing right now during this COVID time.

00:02:02.000 But I'm using it as an excuse to...

00:02:05.000 I don't know.

00:02:07.000 I'm not working on stand-up at all.

00:02:10.000 This is the first time in forever.

00:02:11.000 No writing.

00:02:12.000 I haven't written anything.

00:02:13.000 Do you feel like it's relaxing or do you feel any anxiety about having that detached from your day-to-day routine?

00:02:21.000 That's not the anxiety.

00:02:22.000 The anxiety is the world.

00:02:23.000 The anxiety is what's happening right now.

00:02:25.000 General existentialism? 0.93

00:02:26.000 Well, just the fact that the economy has come to a complete screeching halt and all these people are losing their jobs and all these people are losing their businesses and we're not exactly sure what to do because there's the hardcore people that are like, fuck it, open it up, keep the women and the old people safe. 0.89

00:02:42.000 You know what I mean? 0.94

00:02:43.000 I know.

00:02:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:02:44.000 We're fucking fine. 0.98

00:02:45.000 First of all, stop making us so weak, okay? 0.99

00:02:47.000 Why are we grouped into old, haggard people? 1.00

00:02:49.000 I shouldn't have said women. 0.99

00:02:50.000 Most people aren't saying.

00:02:51.000 I made that up.

00:02:51.000 What people are saying is old people.

00:02:53.000 No, but you're right.

00:02:53.000 It is a thing.

00:02:54.000 Well, you know, women and children first. 1.00

00:02:55.000 Yeah, which we should be, for sure.

00:02:57.000 Well, in the Titanic, you were.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, in the Titanic, we were.

00:02:59.000 That's why everybody loves Leonardo DiCaprio, because he died for her.

00:03:02.000 Paint me like your little French girl. 1.00

00:03:04.000 Yeah, but meanwhile, I'm like, can't you both get on that fucking raft? 1.00

00:03:06.000 I know! 0.99

00:03:07.000 It's not that.

00:03:07.000 It's lying on top of each other.

00:03:08.000 You're already making out.

00:03:09.000 Like, what's...

00:03:10.000 Picked his little frozen hands off and shoved him into the belly of the ocean. 1.00

00:03:13.000 Get out of here, fucker. 1.00

00:03:15.000 Get a sign on the paper first. 1.00

00:03:17.000 Nice drawing.

00:03:20.000 You could write something about parenting.

00:03:22.000 I mean, it must be interesting for you to be raising daughters in this climate.

00:03:27.000 Well, I think raising sons in this climate would be just as interesting and just as weird.

00:03:31.000 Just raising humans in this climate, what no one's ever done before.

00:03:34.000 Raising kids with full-time electronics and the internet from the time they're babies. 0.93

00:03:39.000 The good stuff is you can't bullshit people as much.

00:03:42.000 There's access to information.

00:03:45.000 Like we're trying to figure out today, just now, how many people died in the 1918 flu.

00:03:49.000 And you said it best.

00:03:50.000 You're like, there's no unanswered questions anymore.

00:03:52.000 You can't ponder.

00:03:54.000 Wondering and wonderment is a thing of the past.

00:03:57.000 It's gone.

00:03:57.000 It's still there, but you can get answers.

00:04:01.000 You know, it's like you could search shit down and get answers. 0.89

00:04:04.000 So what was it, the number, like 50 million died in the 1980s? 0.98

00:04:08.000 Yeah, totally.

00:04:09.000 I mean, that's a huge number.

00:04:11.000 But the thing that we were talking about also is, I guess I just don't understand.

00:04:15.000 I understand that this disease has a lot of unknown factors, but there are so many other things that are detrimental to our society that it's wild that it took this sort of situation to bring everything to a screeching halt globally.

00:04:29.000 It's a little scary.

00:04:30.000 And it's scary that we're using so much resources to deal with it.

00:04:33.000 I know we need to, but then, okay, after this, are we going to start to apply those resources to deal with child sex trafficking that happens in the country, to deal with homelessness, to deal with these other issues?

00:04:44.000 Is this going to be a sort of Kickstarter to be like, okay, let's get our shit together as a global society instead of living in our own tribal existences, which doesn't work.

00:04:54.000 It doesn't work anymore.

00:04:55.000 Whoa.

00:04:56.000 I'm sorry.

00:04:57.000 You made me smoke the blunt.

00:04:59.000 You're right.

00:04:59.000 Yeah, but you're right.

00:05:00.000 Maybe that is what we'll do next.

00:05:02.000 Maybe...

00:05:02.000 Listen.

00:05:03.000 500,000 people in this country alone die prematurely because of cigarettes.

00:05:07.000 And we're just like, well, you know, whatever.

00:05:09.000 Imagine if it was Kool-Aid.

00:05:11.000 If Kool-Aid was killing half a million a year.

00:05:13.000 Well, Kool-Aid is.

00:05:14.000 Imagine if Diet Coke.

00:05:14.000 But it's not.

00:05:15.000 Sugar kills a lot of fuckers. 1.00

00:05:16.000 But yes, it does. 1.00

00:05:18.000 It does.

00:05:19.000 But...

00:05:20.000 Not as clearly as cigarettes.

00:05:23.000 Like you can be healthy and occasionally enjoy Kool-Aid.

00:05:27.000 I agree, but don't you think sugar is just as addictive as nicotine?

00:05:29.000 It's very addictive.

00:05:30.000 You're right.

00:05:31.000 I think if we look at it from a broader spectrum, they're both equally as bad and killed just as many people.

00:05:37.000 They do kill a lot of people.

00:05:38.000 I don't think they kill as many because I think heart attacks is higher right now.

00:05:38.000 But I see what you're saying.

00:05:42.000 I guess you would have to lump diabetes in there too, right?

00:05:44.000 You would, absolutely.

00:05:46.000 And what's the highest killer?

00:05:47.000 Heart attacks.

00:05:48.000 Heart attacks was number one until COVID. COVID took the number one spot on the chart.

00:05:54.000 Coming in at number one, COVID-19.

00:05:57.000 Coming in, number 19, straight out of Wuhan.

00:06:00.000 He's quick with the slips.

00:06:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:02.000 Killing bitches. 1.00

00:06:04.000 And sneaky. 1.00

00:06:05.000 Sneaky disease that kills healthy people, and then old people survive it like it's nothing, and then it kills an entire nursing home full of people, and then young people get it and die from it, and old people get it and brush it off, and some people have zero symptoms at all, 0.68

00:06:05.000 Yeah, sneaky. 0.68

00:06:21.000 as many as 50% or more.

00:06:23.000 Yeah, it's wild.

00:06:23.000 It's like the crack of diseases.

00:06:25.000 It's like a bunch of diseases.

00:06:27.000 It is.

00:06:27.000 It does have a lot of characteristics of multiple diseases, and that's a scary factor for me.

00:06:32.000 But I'm always grossed out.

00:06:34.000 I mean, you and I travel.

00:06:35.000 We used to.

00:06:35.000 Yeah, we used to travel.

00:06:36.000 Remember comedy?

00:06:38.000 But are you enjoying the not flying all the time? 1.00

00:06:40.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:06:41.000 How good is it for your body? 1.00

00:06:43.000 Dude, I feel like I look like 15 now.

00:06:46.000 I'm like, oh, I'm chilling.

00:06:49.000 I got my plumpness back.

00:06:51.000 Sleep is amazing. 0.99

00:06:53.000 I don't have to deal with farticles anymore and fucking airplanes. 0.99

00:06:56.000 Oh, God. 0.99

00:06:57.000 Dude, I don't know what it is about flying.

00:06:58.000 I'm sure it's the pressure and the pressurized cabin.

00:07:01.000 People love to fart on airplanes.

00:07:02.000 God, they let it rip on airplanes and that's COVID in my face.

00:07:05.000 I'm fine with not dealing with the farts anymore.

00:07:08.000 Imagine if it was killing people, if farts were killing people.

00:07:10.000 If a guy could fart on a plane and half the people on the plane died.

00:07:14.000 You should have met my dad.

00:07:15.000 A couple of those cookies would have ripped you right out of your seat. 0.90

00:07:19.000 There's something about old man farts.

00:07:21.000 Oh, they're great.

00:07:22.000 They're legendary. 1.00

00:07:23.000 You know, it's something funny about when you walk into a supermarket right behind an old guy who crop dusted you and you're like, you motherfucker. 0.99

00:07:29.000 You're not even mad at him, though. 0.99

00:07:30.000 You can't be mad at him.

00:07:32.000 That fart went to Vietnam. 0.96

00:07:34.000 That was a fart that maybe, you know, fought some wars. 0.98

00:07:37.000 He deserves it.

00:07:38.000 People that have been through war have got to be like, what are we doing?

00:07:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:43.000 Like, if you've been through war and then everyone shut the disease down, people are coughing.

00:07:47.000 Wait.

00:07:48.000 This is what we're worried about?

00:07:50.000 Obviously it's a terrible disease.

00:07:51.000 I'm making light of it.

00:07:52.000 But it's a terrible disease sometime, which is weird.

00:07:56.000 It's like, you know, car accidents are car accidents, right?

00:07:59.000 Your car gets hit by a train.

00:08:01.000 It's the same thing every time.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, it's an isolated situation.

00:08:03.000 But it's terrible every time.

00:08:06.000 Every time.

00:08:06.000 This is terrible, like a car hitting a train sometimes.

00:08:09.000 People just die.

00:08:10.000 And then for other people, it's literally nothing.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, it's really wild.

00:08:14.000 It's an inconsistent disease.

00:08:15.000 And it's also, I just don't understand how much longer we're going to be shut down. 0.99

00:08:21.000 I mean, the economy is struggling so much over this fucking disease. 0.99

00:08:25.000 Not just struggling, like broken. 0.99

00:08:27.000 Yes, this broke us.

00:08:28.000 They're going to have to rebuild it, and it could take a long time.

00:08:31.000 It scares me listening to these experts talk about it.

00:08:34.000 What scares you the most about the current situation?

00:08:36.000 Well, it's always gonna be a new disease and loss of life.

00:08:40.000 That's number one, right?

00:08:41.000 So number one is we're all scared because this disease is super infectious.

00:08:45.000 It's just running through like old folks homes.

00:08:48.000 There was one old folks home.

00:08:49.000 I believe they said 70 people died in this one old folks home.

00:08:53.000 And that's terrible on another level because those people can't bury their family the way they need to or want to.

00:08:58.000 The grieving process is interrupted by the protocol.

00:09:01.000 Yeah, you can't even visit them in the hospital.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, that's that's really brutal and that for that fact It makes me really sad for families that are losing loved ones like that older people.

00:09:10.000 That's why it's so crazy It's almost like and this is a ridiculous way to put it, but I'm gonna do it anyway do it if you were intact if this country was attacked by an invasion of demons And they were all interconnected.

00:09:24.000 We did. 0.59

00:09:25.000 It was the Kardashians.

00:09:27.000 It already happened. 1.00

00:09:29.000 It was a fucking genocide for women. 1.00

00:09:32.000 It already happened. 1.00

00:09:36.000 Sorry, sorry.

00:09:37.000 Continue.

00:09:38.000 You're making a good point.

00:09:39.000 That's what it would be like.

00:09:41.000 It's like some people don't even get haunted.

00:09:43.000 Yeah.

00:09:43.000 Some people just get a little bit of a demon.

00:09:46.000 And then some people get the full wrath of Satan himself.

00:09:49.000 That's a good point.

00:09:50.000 I was reading about this guy who was on an incubator for more than 30 days.

00:09:55.000 And it was a terrifying account.

00:09:57.000 It was in Massachusetts.

00:09:59.000 All these different ways they were doing, different methods they were doing to try to revive this guy.

00:10:05.000 One thing it made me think is like, thank God there's people out there that can do this, that know how to keep a guy like this a lot.

00:10:13.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 A guy who was a young guy.

00:10:14.000 He was like in his late 30s, I believe, maybe 40s.

00:10:17.000 And he was married with little kids.

00:10:19.000 And, you know, it was a terrible story.

00:10:21.000 But they figured it out.

00:10:23.000 And they used some crazy machine that was bypassing his heart and his lungs.

00:10:28.000 Like it had to go in through his leg and like into a major artery, I think, or something like that.

00:10:33.000 And they had to keep him like basically in a coma, like so that he doesn't move.

00:10:39.000 Like an induced coma to keep him.

00:10:40.000 Yeah.

00:10:41.000 They're just trying to pump air into him.

00:10:43.000 Oh my God, it's terrifying.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, that is terrifying.

00:10:46.000 That's why this disease is so strange.

00:10:49.000 It is.

00:10:49.000 I laugh because you made a good point about we're lucky to have people who know how to handle this.

00:10:55.000 I feel like that, you know, with social media and everything, those jobs are not as appealing to people.

00:11:00.000 And who knows in like 50 years of another thing like this and we're lucky enough to be alive and it hits us.

00:11:05.000 Instagram influencers aren't going to be able to intubate anybody.

00:11:08.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:09.000 Like the girls selling fit tea won't be able to help us. 0.89

00:11:12.000 And imagine if your job was, if you thought your job was to help people, which is what most nurses and first responders, I mean, their job is, hey, you know, I'm going to do a good thing for the community.

00:11:24.000 I'm going to do a good thing for people.

00:11:26.000 I'm going to be there to help people when they're ill.

00:11:29.000 I'm going to treat them.

00:11:30.000 I'm going to help them survive and recover.

00:11:32.000 Like, that's a beautiful thing.

00:11:33.000 But to go from that to all of a sudden you're on the front line of this infectious virus war and you could get bit.

00:11:42.000 You can get bit, and there's not enough PPE in all these places, and it's really scary.

00:11:46.000 That's the scariest part. 0.98

00:11:47.000 We don't even have the fucking equipment for these people. 0.99

00:11:50.000 How is that possible? 0.99

00:11:51.000 They have more equipment now than they ever had before, but they just never saw this coming.

00:11:55.000 There was a pandemic department, apparently.

00:11:58.000 What do we know about that?

00:12:00.000 It was canceled during the Trump administration?

00:12:03.000 They canceled the pandemic?

00:12:05.000 I believe, yeah.

00:12:06.000 What I read was that there was like a team in place at the transition that since that time, which would have been three years ago by now, those people are no longer at the jobs that they had.

00:12:16.000 So they would have probably had other positions maybe in the White House or other places.

00:12:20.000 But does the actual position exist anymore?

00:12:22.000 I don't.

00:12:23.000 From what I read, no.

00:12:24.000 Or like, I don't even know if it was like an actual position.

00:12:26.000 I think it was like a team.

00:12:28.000 It's hard to not think about conspiracy when you hear that that team was just shut down and that department was just shut down and then this happens.

00:12:37.000 I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but I understand where people might go, wait a minute, hold on.

00:12:42.000 I know what you're saying.

00:12:43.000 Yeah, I don't think it's a conspiracy.

00:12:44.000 I think it's incompetence.

00:12:46.000 I think, you know, there's been scientists for years, even Bill Gates.

00:12:50.000 Bill Gates in, I think it was 2015, a very famous, was it 2015?

00:12:53.000 Did that TED Talk?

00:12:54.000 Oh yeah, that TED talk about saying how it wasn't going to be like war.

00:12:57.000 It was going to be about a microscopic war.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:01.000 Which is what we're at right now.

00:13:02.000 I've heard this from so many independent sources.

00:13:04.000 I think that's exactly what it is, really.

00:13:06.000 I think they just didn't see it coming.

00:13:07.000 And it's just incompetence.

00:13:09.000 They didn't treat it with the respect that it deserved because it's not in their face.

00:13:12.000 Yeah.

00:13:13.000 Right?

00:13:13.000 If you're a person deciding what to spend money on...

00:13:16.000 And you're running something like the United States of America. 0.98

00:13:19.000 There's some fucking wacky decisions you have to make, you know? 0.97

00:13:22.000 And someone, whoever it was, made the call that we don't need that. 0.96

00:13:26.000 I mean, I don't even know if that's true.

00:13:28.000 Maybe the money was diverted or it was diverted into some sort of another program or something.

00:13:33.000 But they just didn't see it coming.

00:13:35.000 I guess it would be hard to see something like this coming and it's like preparing for the thing that you can't imagine would be hard to prepare for.

00:13:42.000 And it's going to be an interesting thing because, like, for our ability to look back at ancient civilizations, it's a little difficult because of the lack of technology available then to record incidents happening.

00:13:53.000 But for us right now, this is all being recorded.

00:13:56.000 And maybe there'll be a differentiation in the advancements with technology, but I wonder what future generations are going to know and decipher from this situation that we're in right now.

00:14:07.000 Like, didn't they see that coming?

00:14:09.000 You know, that sort of situation where they're like, How did they not see this happening?

00:14:13.000 How did they not know this was going to happen?

00:14:15.000 Because we have a really weird inability to pay attention to anything that doesn't affect us immediately.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, that's strange.

00:14:21.000 It's very strange.

00:14:21.000 But it's a characteristic of human beings that's probably got some sort of evolutionary benefit.

00:14:28.000 Like, concentrate on what you're concentrating on.

00:14:29.000 Don't see the big picture.

00:14:30.000 Because if you see the big picture, you're going to go, why am I even bothering?

00:14:33.000 I'm a finite life form on a planet with a dying star floating through infinity trying not to get eaten.

00:14:39.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:14:40.000 It's a survival mechanism.

00:14:42.000 There's something about it, like, your brain has too much ability to comprehend.

00:14:47.000 And if you comprehend everything, like, just the nature of life itself, the fact that your body is this ecosystem with all this different stuff inside you, because you collectively, like, however they influence you, however your microbiome influences you,

00:15:04.000 collectively are you, and you know that.

00:15:06.000 You just assume that there's one. 1.00

00:15:08.000 But meanwhile, it's this crazy fucking world. 1.00

00:15:11.000 It is. 1.00

00:15:12.000 It's all interconnected.

00:15:13.000 It's all interconnected.

00:15:14.000 Do you ever talk to your cells?

00:15:17.000 No, do you?

00:15:19.000 Do you talk to yourselves?

00:15:20.000 I do.

00:15:21.000 I say that in a sense of I thank my existence and my being for taking care of me.

00:15:28.000 I express gratitude to myself on a microscopic level, on a molecular level.

00:15:35.000 Like talking to plants.

00:15:37.000 I talk to my plants.

00:15:38.000 They say that's real, right?

00:15:40.000 If you play plants music, they actually grow better?

00:15:43.000 I wonder if there's plants that like Cardi B. Or if it's all just like...

00:15:48.000 Is that real?

00:15:48.000 No, it's real, yeah.

00:15:49.000 But was there a study on this?

00:15:51.000 Absolutely.

00:15:51.000 That they grow more flourishly.

00:15:53.000 Flourishly, is that a word?

00:15:55.000 They flourish more with music in their growing process.

00:15:58.000 Have you ever been high on a grow-op?

00:16:00.000 I don't even know what you just said to me.

00:16:02.000 High in a grow-up, like a grow-up where they're growing weed, walking through weed high?

00:16:06.000 Oh, actually, yes, I take it back.

00:16:08.000 My partner's grow-up.

00:16:09.000 I was inside a little bit stoned.

00:16:11.000 It feels nice.

00:16:12.000 Yes.

00:16:12.000 One of the earliest studies of the effect of music on plants was conducted in 1962 by Dr. T.C. Singh Head of Botany at Animalia University.

00:16:24.000 He exposed balsam plants to classical music and found that their growth rate increased by 20% compared to a control group, along with 72% increase in biomass.

00:16:35.000 72% increase in biomass from playing music.

00:16:35.000 Wow!

00:16:40.000 But even that 20%, that's a huge, huge number.

00:16:43.000 And imagine what that does to plants.

00:16:45.000 I mean, we already know there's science that it helps babies and fetuses and babies inside the womb to listen to classical music and things like that.

00:16:53.000 So it's interesting.

00:16:54.000 I wonder what the rate of helping a baby grow is, what the percentage is. 0.99

00:17:00.000 No shit, right? 0.99

00:17:01.000 I wonder if you could play Beethoven for your kid when it's like a tiny little baby who's in the crib. 1.00

00:17:05.000 What if it increases its intelligence?

00:17:07.000 I wonder if it would.

00:17:09.000 Do you think it would?

00:17:11.000 I mean, for real, it'd be an exercise, right?

00:17:14.000 Because the kid would be following along with these beats. 0.98

00:17:16.000 So the thing to really complex classical music is like, I don't know about you, but I don't play shit. 0.97

00:17:22.000 I have zero musical talent at all. 0.91

00:17:24.000 I have none.

00:17:25.000 I mean, I can do like a finger flute.

00:17:27.000 I love the fact that I don't know anything about how they do it.

00:17:30.000 So I could just enjoy it.

00:17:32.000 Just enjoy the music without thinking about the technical details of it.

00:17:35.000 Yeah, it must be a little stressful if you know how it goes to obsess over that, over the notes.

00:17:40.000 Oh yeah, it'd be like us with comics. 0.99

00:17:42.000 You're like, why the fuck did you do that? 0.97

00:17:44.000 Why would he go that way? 0.99

00:17:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? 0.99

00:17:45.000 Why would he go this way?

00:17:46.000 Or you know what it'd be like?

00:17:47.000 It would be like us if you're watching someone play a comic in a movie.

00:17:51.000 Ugh.

00:17:51.000 Right?

00:17:52.000 Yeah, you're like, you did it all wrong!

00:17:53.000 Right, yeah.

00:17:54.000 That was so terrible.

00:17:56.000 So if you were a guitarist and then they're doing a movie on Hendrix...

00:18:01.000 Like, what are you going to do with the fingers?

00:18:03.000 What are you going to do?

00:18:04.000 Because you're not going to trick people.

00:18:05.000 Flap them around aimlessly.

00:18:06.000 Yeah, you're not going to.

00:18:07.000 You have to actually know how to play guitar if you want to play Hendrix in a movie.

00:18:11.000 Am I right?

00:18:11.000 I'm just laughing.

00:18:12.000 Yes and no.

00:18:13.000 You're right, but also so many people have such different technique that you'd look at somebody and be like, that's not how you play that, but you hear it and it sounds exactly right.

00:18:20.000 Yeah, because of the way they develop their dexterity.

00:18:22.000 Let me give props to someone who faked it better than almost anybody.

00:18:25.000 Will Smith when he played Muhammad Ali.

00:18:28.000 I don't want to say faked it. 0.99

00:18:29.000 I would say acted his ass up. 0.99

00:18:31.000 Became like a boxer. 0.98

00:18:33.000 I've seen so many fights.

00:18:35.000 When someone moves, you go, ah, come on with that.

00:18:37.000 Oh, you're talking about the actual choreography of his movement.

00:18:40.000 His movement.

00:18:41.000 See, I never saw that movie, but I know it was a good one.

00:18:44.000 I thought you were going to say, because we're talking about music, like Jamie Foxx with Ray, but I don't know.

00:18:49.000 He's fantastic.

00:18:49.000 That guy can do anything.

00:18:51.000 I know, Jamie Foxx is amazing.

00:18:52.000 He's weirdly talented.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, he is.

00:18:53.000 If you listen to his voice, you're like, whoa, you can do that too?

00:18:56.000 Yeah.

00:18:57.000 He is a very, very talented dude.

00:18:59.000 Very funny.

00:18:59.000 He did the cello thing, too, though.

00:19:01.000 He made it seem like he would learn...

00:19:04.000 Maybe he did, but a master cello player in that movie with Robert Downey Jr. That's right.

00:19:09.000 The guy who's homeless.

00:19:10.000 I can't remember the name of it.

00:19:11.000 We can Google it, Jamie.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, but see, he can really do that.

00:19:13.000 Yeah.

00:19:16.000 It's not like if someone asked me to play a guitarist.

00:19:20.000 I don't know what you're supposed to do with your hand.

00:19:22.000 It's going to be like...

00:19:23.000 I don't know what to do with my hand!

00:19:25.000 You ever see a movie where you could tell someone doesn't really smoke and they're smoking cigarettes in a movie?

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 But it just looks so awkward in their hand.

00:19:32.000 I've heard actors talk about that, too.

00:19:32.000 Unnatural.

00:19:34.000 If their character smokes cigarettes, they'll actually smoke cigarettes so they can get comfortable with the fact they have a cigarette.

00:19:41.000 And even then they feel like a fake.

00:19:42.000 Well, I think because so much of our mechanism is dependent upon our personality type, you know?

00:19:48.000 It's not necessarily everyone smokes a certain way.

00:19:50.000 It's just like, how do you stand?

00:19:52.000 Like, where are you?

00:19:53.000 Are you leaning?

00:19:54.000 Or how do you eat?

00:19:55.000 You know, do you have bad posture?

00:19:56.000 It's going to affect the way you do things.

00:19:57.000 There's a thing that you can see in someone that's doing something awkward.

00:20:00.000 There's a weird thing if they're not really good at it.

00:20:03.000 And it's like, I play pool. 1.00

00:20:05.000 And when you watch someone play pool in a movie, and he's supposed to be an amazing pool player, they're like, bitch, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:20:11.000 This guy's doing everything wrong. 0.99

00:20:12.000 Everything's all clunky.

00:20:14.000 That guy can't play.

00:20:15.000 Do you like that Martin Scorsese movie?

00:20:17.000 You can see it in seconds.

00:20:17.000 Which one?

00:20:18.000 The Hustler?

00:20:18.000 No, with...

00:20:19.000 Color Money?

00:20:20.000 Color Money.

00:20:21.000 It's a classic pool movie.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, that's an amazing movie.

00:20:25.000 That's actually the sequel to The Hustler.

00:20:27.000 Oh! 0.60

00:20:28.000 Yeah, The Hustler.

00:20:29.000 I've read the books.

00:20:31.000 Who's the author?

00:20:33.000 You read a lot.

00:20:33.000 I forget the author.

00:20:35.000 When did you have time before?

00:20:37.000 I don't read much anymore.

00:20:37.000 Mostly what I do is listen to books on tape.

00:20:39.000 Is that considered reading?

00:20:41.000 That's a good question.

00:20:41.000 Donnell Rawlings says no.

00:20:45.000 Donnell is like, wait, you listen!

00:20:47.000 You listen and you say you read!

00:20:50.000 And Ari Shaffir said the same thing too. 1.00

00:20:52.000 Ari Shaffir wrote on my Instagram something, some fucking comment. 0.98

00:20:56.000 Books don't have tracks or something. 0.99

00:20:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:58.000 That's funny.

00:20:59.000 Come on, bitch. 1.00

00:21:00.000 But I mean, if you're in school and you're getting a lecture, you're learning. 1.00

00:21:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:03.000 Listen, it's not the same.

00:21:06.000 But I can do it when I work out.

00:21:07.000 So I can listen to books while I work out.

00:21:09.000 Do you think you retain information better when you're working out and doing physically exerting things?

00:21:15.000 No, I think you retain the most information when you're sitting there concentrating on retaining information.

00:21:19.000 You retain less, but you can still do it.

00:21:23.000 You seem really able to acquire and retain a lot of information.

00:21:28.000 It's scattered though. 0.67

00:21:29.000 It's like I have all my hard drives are fucked up.

00:21:33.000 Are you running on an old Dell processor? 0.99

00:21:36.000 I have a chimpanzee's brain.

00:21:38.000 A chimpanzee?

00:21:39.000 I'm supposed to have a few categories of things that I concentrate on.

00:21:44.000 That's what my brain's designed for.

00:21:46.000 But I've taken it like if you're trying to put a big engine in a Volkswagen Bug, I'm just cramming information. 0.78

00:21:52.000 Instead of horsepower, I'm trying to cram information in this chimp brain. 1.00

00:21:56.000 Do you get headaches from it? 0.96

00:21:58.000 Every day!

00:21:59.000 No, I'm lucky I don't get headaches.

00:22:01.000 I've had friends that have had migraines, and it seems like probably one of the most disturbing things you can experience.

00:22:06.000 Yeah, there's so many other physical...

00:22:09.000 Symptoms that are associated with migraines that just the migraine itself everything else seems so much worse I've had friends that say it's like literally like their heads in a vice and It'll last for an hour.

00:22:20.000 Yeah, that's brutal.

00:22:21.000 Do you have any like physical issues?

00:22:23.000 I know you have like a like a joint issue or a bad knee I've always got something wrong from fighting.

00:22:28.000 Yeah, there's always something wrong.

00:22:30.000 Is there anything congenital?

00:22:32.000 No, no, nothing.

00:22:33.000 No, everything was just from just use and abuse.

00:22:36.000 But, like, I'm 52, and for most guys that are 52 that still get involved in jiu-jitsu, they've got a bunch of surgeries.

00:22:44.000 Most guys have, like, back surgery or shoulder surgery or knee surgery.

00:22:48.000 Almost every guy that I know that gets into, like, his 40s and 50s from jiu-jitsu.

00:22:52.000 Is it like a midlife crisis choice where you're just like, I gotta...

00:22:56.000 I gotta try this thing and challenge myself.

00:22:58.000 I'm a man.

00:22:58.000 I gotta get in the ring.

00:23:00.000 You could use it that way, but it's more like a life challenge.

00:23:03.000 The way I look at it, it's like a really difficult thing to do.

00:23:07.000 And in doing really difficult things, it increases your capacity to do other things.

00:23:12.000 And it also occupies your mind with real drama.

00:23:17.000 It's really dangerous.

00:23:17.000 What do you mean by real drama?

00:23:19.000 It's really dangerous.

00:23:20.000 I mean, it's not dangerous in the fact that you're going to get hurt.

00:23:23.000 You might get hurt, but most of the time when you train, you don't.

00:23:25.000 But I mean, it's dangerous in that this guy's trying to kill you.

00:23:28.000 He will tap you out, you'll tap, and you'll give up, and then you go again.

00:23:33.000 You're not going to die, you're not going to get hurt.

00:23:34.000 But the reality is, he could have killed you. 1.00

00:23:37.000 If somebody gets you in an arm bar, they're going to break your fucking arm. 1.00

00:23:40.000 If they get you in a triangle, they're going to put you to sleep and strangle you to death. 1.00

00:23:44.000 Are you flirting? 0.66

00:23:45.000 That's...

00:23:49.000 That sounds great.

00:23:50.000 My point, Jessie Mae, is that when you do that, it makes other things easier.

00:23:54.000 It makes other things seem trivial.

00:23:56.000 The people that get good at jujitsu, men and women, they have a tolerance for the hardships of life that's built into them from training sessions that other people don't have. 0.99

00:24:07.000 When you're constantly, you're a woman, you're constantly grappling with this and this bitch is just trying to kill you. 1.00

00:24:12.000 You're good friends and they're getting on top of you and she's trying to strangle you, she's trying to get you in the rear naked choke. 1.00

00:24:17.000 You're like, not today, motherfucker! 1.00

00:24:18.000 And you're doing this all the time, like regular nonsense out in the street. 1.00

00:24:23.000 It must be a great way to focus your stresses and angers in your everyday existence and sort of funnel them into this.

00:24:30.000 Instead of that, I think it avoids a lot of the anger.

00:24:33.000 I think a lot of like frustration that a lot of people have, the tension is like built up energy that they need to expand.

00:24:40.000 They need to expel.

00:24:42.000 They need to get it out of their system and they don't get a chance to.

00:24:45.000 They're stuck in offices.

00:24:46.000 They're stuck in their car.

00:24:47.000 They're stuck at home, wherever they are.

00:24:48.000 I don't know if it's not that they don't get a chance to.

00:24:50.000 They don't decide to implement it into their life somehow.

00:24:53.000 There's that too.

00:24:54.000 Because there's a choice to make.

00:24:55.000 And I realize there are limitations to people's lives in certain situations, but it's a choice to implement something like this where you can deal with your anger.

00:25:03.000 For sure.

00:25:03.000 I mean, anger is necessary.

00:25:04.000 Here's why it's a weird choice.

00:25:06.000 It is a choice.

00:25:07.000 But, you know, it's not normal or healthy to sit in a chair all day.

00:25:11.000 No, it's not.

00:25:12.000 And everybody's being forced to do that.

00:25:13.000 And it is a weird thing to decide that we got to do.

00:25:16.000 I mean, that's why there's so many suicides in Chinese culture, isn't that? 0.99

00:25:20.000 Like, in Japanese cultures, too?

00:25:22.000 It's crazy hours, too, right?

00:25:23.000 Yeah, but they're sitting in a desk all day long, jumping out of their windows because of the stress of the work week.

00:25:30.000 Imagine the feeling when you make that jump.

00:25:32.000 You probably regret it. 1.00

00:25:34.000 You're like, fuck this job! 1.00

00:25:37.000 There's no way each time you're like, this is a good choice. 1.00

00:25:40.000 Each time?

00:25:41.000 Milk was a bad choice, and so was jumping out of the window.

00:25:45.000 Shh! 0.97

00:25:46.000 Boy, that's a crazy way to go.

00:25:48.000 It is.

00:25:48.000 But how crazy is that Foxconn place where they make the iPhones where they had to put nets around it because so many people were jumping?

00:25:53.000 I mean, at least they're evolving, you know?

00:25:55.000 It would be fun if they put a trampoline and then you can just kind of jump around and deal with your emotions and that.

00:25:59.000 You're like, I guess it was a good thing that I didn't do it, that I didn't die.

00:26:03.000 They have dorms there and everything.

00:26:05.000 Like, why can't we make an American cell phone?

00:26:07.000 Is that impossible?

00:26:08.000 No, it's not.

00:26:09.000 Or would we have to pollute everything? 0.94

00:26:11.000 There's a thing that's like, no bullshit. 0.98

00:26:14.000 Like, no bullshit. 0.96

00:26:15.000 I don't know why everything gets made over there other than cheap labor. 0.98

00:26:20.000 That's why it is!

00:26:21.000 But the other question could be, is it also because they don't have the same environmental concerns?

00:26:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:26:26.000 And I know that if you're in some of those cities, the smog is fucking insane, right? 0.99

00:26:32.000 Some of the worst air conditions in the world you'll experience in these cities where they make all this shit. 0.99

00:26:38.000 Yeah, they don't give a fuck about nature. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Like, here's the deal. 0.95

00:26:41.000 Can we even have all the stuff we have over here and make it over here?

00:26:47.000 And not have all that waste?

00:26:48.000 And not pollute the world?

00:26:50.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:26:52.000 Sure, but we should answer that one first.

00:26:53.000 Oh yeah, we should answer that.

00:26:54.000 Let's figure out if this is true.

00:26:55.000 Does this make any sense? 0.99

00:26:57.000 It does make sense, but don't you think we make too much shit? 0.99

00:27:01.000 Do we need a new car every year? 0.99

00:27:02.000 No, we don't need a new phone every year either. 0.99

00:27:04.000 We don't need new shit every year. 0.99

00:27:06.000 You talk about the waste that it's producing. 0.99

00:27:08.000 I got an iPhone 11 and you could have this for five years. 0.99

00:27:11.000 If this is all I could do on the phone is call and make pictures and fucking shit that you do normally and send text messages... 0.99

00:27:19.000 Do I really need something better than this? 0.99

00:27:21.000 Right.

00:27:21.000 Why do we need a new one?

00:27:22.000 Keep making this.

00:27:24.000 Just keep making this.

00:27:25.000 I think we're producing too much.

00:27:25.000 Right.

00:27:28.000 We're going to be intertwined with this thing.

00:27:30.000 We were talking about that app, about the tracking, the COVID tracking. 0.99

00:27:30.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

00:27:34.000 The... 1.00

00:27:35.000 Which is just, it sounds scary to me. 0.98

00:27:37.000 Get the fuck out of here with that. 1.00

00:27:38.000 That's some NSA shit. 1.00

00:27:39.000 That's really scary. 1.00

00:27:40.000 They're gonna keep going.

00:27:41.000 This is what things do.

00:27:43.000 It's your job to try to do something like this, to try to implement something where you can get people to agree to tracking.

00:27:51.000 If it's your job to do that, you're going to keep going.

00:27:54.000 Yes, you are. 0.99

00:27:54.000 Once you get that tracking, then you're going to want some new shit. 0.99

00:27:57.000 Then you want cameras in front of people's houses to see if they really are quarantining. 0.95

00:28:00.000 You know, they're doing that in China.

00:28:02.000 Yes.

00:28:02.000 This guy just got back from a trip in China.

00:28:04.000 They gave him a 14-day quarantine and they put a fucking camera right in front of his door. 0.99

00:28:08.000 That's weird. 0.99

00:28:09.000 He's like, whoa, like you're not going anywhere for 14 days and we're watching you.

00:28:14.000 It's also strange for people in politics to encourage society to snitch on people.

00:28:19.000 That's weird.

00:28:20.000 That's a level of tracking.

00:28:23.000 That's our mayor. 0.98

00:28:23.000 I know, but don't you think that's fucking weird and wrong? 0.98

00:28:26.000 It's weird and wrong, but it's even worse if you're offering rewards. 0.94

00:28:30.000 That's right.

00:28:31.000 If you're saying, usually snitches get stitches, but this one, they get rewards. 0.69

00:28:35.000 You guys are going to get riches.

00:28:37.000 LAUGHTER You know what it is, Joe?

00:28:43.000 Honestly, it's a behavior change.

00:28:46.000 It's a weird step towards this tracking system that's going to be implemented that they're starting to be like, oh, it's okay.

00:28:53.000 We're going to reinforce you guys being stitches.

00:28:57.000 It's snitches. 1.00

00:28:58.000 It's fine.

00:28:59.000 Here's a little treat for you.

00:29:00.000 Here's 500 bucks for letting me know that Karen was out not doing the proper protocols.

00:29:04.000 Meanwhile, there have been that many deaths, like, relatively to what they thought they were going to be.

00:29:11.000 And so that means it's a success.

00:29:13.000 So that means the way it's being implemented so far has been a success.

00:29:17.000 Like, you're going to get more aggressive with it, even though the numbers are way lower than we thought they were going to be?

00:29:22.000 What are we doing, George?

00:29:24.000 We're doing the right thing.

00:29:25.000 Understand that it's hard for people.

00:29:27.000 Keep an eye on each other. 1.00

00:29:29.000 Don't let people do stupid shit. 1.00

00:29:31.000 You shouldn't have fucking parties. 1.00

00:29:32.000 But you also shouldn't give people rewards to snitch. 0.99

00:29:35.000 No, that's not helping.

00:29:36.000 I saw a house party the other day where people had masks on.

00:29:39.000 Someone put it up on their Instagram.

00:29:41.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

00:29:42.000 It might have been Lil Duval. 0.99

00:29:43.000 Lil Duval has the best Instagram follow out there. 0.99

00:29:47.000 It's so good.

00:29:47.000 And he posts all day long.

00:29:49.000 He's just getting high and posting. 1.00

00:29:51.000 Lil Duvall posts the funniest shit. 1.00

00:29:54.000 He posts the funniest shit. 1.00

00:29:56.000 He really does. 1.00

00:29:56.000 The house party was packed. 1.00

00:29:58.000 Yeah, it was a packed house party.

00:30:00.000 I think it said something like, if these people ain't dead in 14 days, I'm going to go out.

00:30:06.000 But also, like...

00:30:08.000 People are partying with masks on.

00:30:11.000 They're partying in my apartment as well.

00:30:13.000 Not where I personally live, but the building.

00:30:16.000 People have been having house parties.

00:30:19.000 Having them.

00:30:20.000 Chilling.

00:30:20.000 I hear there's Cards Against Humanity happening a lot.

00:30:23.000 Oh my god.

00:30:24.000 It's wild.

00:30:25.000 And like...

00:30:26.000 Did you see the beach?

00:30:27.000 There it is right there.

00:30:28.000 Look at it!

00:30:29.000 Look at the dude with the mask!

00:30:31.000 If don't nobody from this house party die in 14 days, I'm going outside.

00:30:35.000 And also, why is it so bright?

00:30:38.000 It looks more like a meeting that just led out in a business.

00:30:43.000 Where are they?

00:30:44.000 Well, maybe it is. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Maybe this is bullshit. 0.99

00:30:47.000 That's the thing. 1.00

00:30:48.000 Or maybe someone turn the lights on and take a picture.

00:30:50.000 How do we know?

00:30:51.000 These photos, so many photos are doctored.

00:30:53.000 Like you talked about the picture from the beach.

00:30:56.000 How do we even know what date that's from?

00:30:58.000 I'm sure a lot of these things you can sort of track, but then they posted a picture about, you know, the anti-stay-home protesters.

00:31:04.000 It was a photo from like an election from 2011, one thing I saw.

00:31:08.000 I think that's just lazy journalism.

00:31:10.000 They're just clickbait people.

00:31:11.000 That's interesting.

00:31:12.000 Did you see the deep fake of Biden's tongue?

00:31:15.000 Did you see that? 0.99

00:31:17.000 No, it sounds like a porno category. 0.62

00:31:19.000 There's a crazy deep fake where they took Biden, his thing where he's doing this press conference, and they made him move his eyebrows and stick his tongue out in this really wacky way.

00:31:29.000 And when I saw it, I was like, is he really doing that?

00:31:33.000 And I'm like, I don't know if this is really not.

00:31:35.000 So I think I retweeted it.

00:31:36.000 I'm like, what is this?

00:31:37.000 I just sent it out there in the universe.

00:31:40.000 Somebody tell me what this is.

00:31:41.000 And then someone wrote a thing about this deep fake.

00:31:46.000 What did it say?

00:31:47.000 Was the article like the beginning to the end of democracy or something like that?

00:31:50.000 But it's really...

00:31:52.000 Do you want me to send it to you?

00:31:54.000 No, no.

00:31:55.000 Sorry, I... I found it.

00:31:57.000 I'm looking at...

00:31:58.000 I guess calling it a deepfake might be misleading, but yeah, it's not technically a deepfake, but it's not accurate either.

00:32:07.000 It's like manipulation.

00:32:09.000 But did it really happen?

00:32:11.000 But he didn't really open his tongue like that, right?

00:32:12.000 Yeah, I think what this is saying is that he opened his tongue like that, but there's some app you can use to do the rest of the manipulation.

00:32:18.000 He opened his tongue like a normal open...

00:32:22.000 What is that?

00:32:22.000 Can you show Jessie Mae?

00:32:24.000 I was trying to read through it so I could explain it at the same time.

00:32:26.000 Jessie Mae doesn't know what we're talking about. 1.00

00:32:29.000 There's a picture like that.

00:32:30.000 I can't deal with it.

00:32:32.000 That's a real picture?

00:32:33.000 I think this picture is real.

00:32:35.000 That looks like every housewife in Bel Air, by the way. 1.00

00:32:37.000 Yeah, by the time they hit 70. Yeah, they're hanging on to it.

00:32:40.000 This article's on Vice where it says not everything is a deepfake.

00:32:43.000 For the love of God, not everything is a deepfake.

00:32:45.000 What a great title for an article.

00:32:48.000 Sloppy Joe is trending?

00:32:50.000 Wow.

00:32:51.000 Oh! 0.60

00:32:53.000 Didn't, so Trump retweeted that?

00:32:55.000 Did he retweet that?

00:32:58.000 Trump yesterday retweeted his own tweet.

00:33:01.000 I know!

00:33:03.000 Where are we?

00:33:04.000 Like, what is life right now?

00:33:06.000 See, what people want from him is for him to be like his fans. 0.94

00:33:12.000 They want him to be this boss guy that doesn't make dumb mistakes. 0.94

00:33:16.000 I mean... 1.00

00:33:17.000 But like, if you say something stupid, that's one thing. 1.00

00:33:21.000 But if you say something stupid and then try to pretend you didn't say something stupid, now you've doubled down. 1.00

00:33:26.000 Are you talking about when he told everybody to boof bleach? 1.00

00:33:28.000 Yeah, well he said maybe there was a way to use disinfectant.

00:33:32.000 Now here's what's interesting.

00:33:34.000 It's clearly not.

00:33:36.000 He's not being sarcastic.

00:33:37.000 But then he said he was saying it's sarcastic just to your reporters.

00:33:39.000 Like, he's so embattled with the reporters.

00:33:42.000 It's like, I've never seen anything like it.

00:33:44.000 He's embattled with his ego.

00:33:45.000 His ego is the first thing he's embattled with.

00:33:47.000 And any time that's threatened, he can't...

00:33:50.000 He focuses on that.

00:33:52.000 He's so focused on his sensitive ego that everything else falls to the wayside.

00:33:57.000 Like, just running the country.

00:33:58.000 He's like, eh, I'm busy tweeting my haters right now.

00:34:01.000 I'm busy tweeting trolls about For hours!

00:34:05.000 Can you imagine him?

00:34:06.000 What is he wearing?

00:34:07.000 Is he in bed in sweatpants? 0.71

00:34:09.000 I hope he's naked. 0.57

00:34:10.000 I hope he's in the steam room and he keeps blowing out his iPhones. 0.99

00:34:13.000 They keep giving him, get me a new one! 1.00

00:34:16.000 He's just in there, in the steam room, chilling, talking shit about Putin. 1.00

00:34:25.000 Talking shit about China and everything. 1.00

00:34:25.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:34:28.000 I don't know.

00:34:29.000 I think that guy, I bet he could never imagine what it was going to be like to have that job, to be hated that way.

00:34:37.000 No, I think he wasn't able to put himself in a category of ever being hated, but that seems to be his biggest downfall and his biggest insecurity is what people think of him.

00:34:47.000 But when you're living in conflict, right?

00:34:49.000 So he's in this constant conflict with the press and the reporters when he gives those speeches.

00:34:55.000 When you're living in conflict like that, you're always at like seven.

00:34:59.000 You're always on edge.

00:35:01.000 You can't take things from a neutral place.

00:35:04.000 You take things, they're always a bigger front than they really are.

00:35:07.000 The perspective is always off because you're like stuck in conflict.

00:35:12.000 It actually happens to people if you grow up in bad neighborhoods.

00:35:16.000 If you grow up in bad neighborhoods, and they've even said that they've done studies.

00:35:21.000 Michael Irvin actually talked to me about this once on a plane flight from Australia.

00:35:25.000 And he explained to me that kids that grow up and they're born, when their mother is going through extreme stress, like the mother lives in a very violent neighborhood and there's violence in the house and things like that, the kid in the womb, it changes the way the kid will approach life.

00:35:41.000 That's what I was saying to you before.

00:35:42.000 I was wondering, living in a stressful environment having an effect on the development of the child.

00:35:49.000 I'm sure it will, but this is literally changing the wiring in the brain while she's pregnant with him. 0.51

00:35:55.000 It's happening because of the outside world.

00:35:57.000 It's like changing the baby, changing the behavior.

00:36:00.000 Make it, apparently, a much quicker ability to react or instinct to react.

00:36:07.000 Constant survival.

00:36:08.000 On edge.

00:36:09.000 Being on edge.

00:36:09.000 I think that's definitely also consistent with having a rough childhood or traumatic experience.

00:36:15.000 I definitely went through that, experiencing things as a girl that made me reactive to men until I learned how to narrow it down to this one instance and deal with it.

00:36:28.000 It's interesting how you're able to...

00:36:31.000 Overcome trauma with therapy and behavioral changes.

00:36:35.000 But I think it comes down to that.

00:36:36.000 Like, having traumatic things will always sort of negate...

00:36:41.000 I'm sorry, will always sort of dictate how you react to things.

00:36:45.000 Trauma drives the ship for so long until you deal with it and have some sort of therapy.

00:36:49.000 And even then, sometimes it's difficult to overcome your instinctual response, which is based off of that sort of...

00:36:58.000 That experience of stress being influencing how you react.

00:37:03.000 You know what you were talking about earlier, talking about what kind of an effect is this disease going to have on people?

00:37:09.000 Yeah.

00:37:09.000 Well, I'm hoping that it's going to have an effect on shifting in a way where we understand how good we had it and how recent this is that people have had it good.

00:37:20.000 I think one of the reasons why we're so quick to react to things, like why a child in the womb would be quick to react and tend to be more violent or react quicker to violence Or be defensive.

00:37:34.000 Because it needed it for survival.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, it's survival.

00:37:36.000 Up until about four or five hundred years ago, everything was a bloodbath.

00:37:40.000 I mean, if you... 1.00

00:37:40.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:37:41.000 We've had it good. 1.00

00:37:43.000 Yeah, we've had it real fucking good. 0.99

00:37:44.000 We've had it so fucking good. 0.99

00:37:45.000 Real fucking good. 0.98

00:37:46.000 So... 0.98

00:37:47.000 I mean, we have...

00:37:48.000 All of our needs are instantly met.

00:37:50.000 And then because of that, our needs grow because we need more.

00:37:54.000 Like, oh, this iPhone 11 isn't good enough.

00:37:56.000 I need an iPhone 24. We also find more things to complain about.

00:37:59.000 We find more things to be bitter about, but less things to be thankful of.

00:38:03.000 Like, I think, if anything, I hope that when we come back from this, other than the fact that I hope people get their lives in order, is I hope that we get this understanding that Of how temporary all of this really is.

00:38:15.000 And how we just thought, because it existed, because it had always been here, it always will be here.

00:38:15.000 Yeah.

00:38:20.000 This is fragile. 0.98

00:38:22.000 This is fragile like the Great Barrier Reef, which we fucking killed with hairspray. 1.00

00:38:27.000 Fuck, we fucked that up! 1.00

00:38:29.000 That shit's fishing line and hairspray and suntan lotion. 1.00

00:38:34.000 It's like, fuck you. 1.00

00:38:36.000 We haven't put enough effort into educating ourselves about the things we're consuming, the products we're buying, and the people we're surrounding ourselves with. 1.00

00:38:44.000 We sort of had this reckless, abandoned approach to existence.

00:38:47.000 And I agree with what you're saying.

00:38:49.000 I think, hopefully, I thought about this yesterday when I was high on a walk yesterday with my dogs. 1.00

00:38:53.000 Oh, shit. 0.98

00:38:54.000 Where I hope, and one thing that I've gotten from this is a humility about existence, a humility about being a human and all of the things that we get in just this society, but also in everyday life. 0.99

00:39:09.000 Our needs have exceeded what we really need to exist.

00:39:16.000 And our wants are beyond what we really need on a day-to-day basis.

00:39:22.000 It's greedy! 0.98

00:39:23.000 It's so fucking greedy and it's not serving It's not serving the community. 0.99

00:39:28.000 It's a trick, too. 0.99

00:39:29.000 You're tricked into working harder and wanting more.

00:39:34.000 It's a trap.

00:39:35.000 Working hard for some dude you don't know, that cliche thing where you're making money.

00:39:39.000 It's a job you hate.

00:39:41.000 To get in a car, to drive to a house you can't afford, to be in a marriage that you haven't put any effort into, and to put the TV on, to put the food that's not good for you in your belly, and rinse and repeat.

00:39:53.000 The goldfish dead. 1.00

00:39:53.000 The dog's a cunt. 1.00

00:39:55.000 The dog's not the cunt. 1.00

00:39:56.000 Usually it's a spouse. 1.00

00:39:57.000 The dog's the saving grace. 1.00

00:39:58.000 Sometimes you can get a fucking rescue dog that's a little bit of a cunt. 1.00

00:40:01.000 Yeah, but you can change that with behavioral training. 1.00

00:40:04.000 It's the same thing as people.

00:40:05.000 You rescue people.

00:40:06.000 Yeah, but you can't talk to them.

00:40:08.000 It takes too much time.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, it does take a lot of time to train them.

00:40:12.000 But it is possible.

00:40:13.000 When they're puppies, it's easy.

00:40:14.000 It is easy when they're puppies.

00:40:15.000 You can start from the ground zero with their behavior.

00:40:19.000 I know you're a big dog freak, though.

00:40:20.000 You must have had one or two dogs you've adopted.

00:40:23.000 You're like, oh, Jesus, what kind of project did I take on?

00:40:26.000 Yeah, it definitely has been a...

00:40:27.000 I have one, my pit bull, my pit boxer mix.

00:40:30.000 He's been a journey.

00:40:39.000 Yeah.

00:40:48.000 Wrapped around this room and they were all stacked on top of each other and I just put my hand up against each cage just to see how the dog would react in this stressful talking about being inside of a baby being a womb while the mother's stressful.

00:41:01.000 This is a similar scenario where these dogs are in this room And it's stressful and they're all barking.

00:41:06.000 So I just put my hand outside of each one just to see their reactions.

00:41:09.000 And Carlin was the only one who, when I put my hand in front of his cage, he didn't meet me with aggression. 0.96

00:41:14.000 He turned around and showed me his butt and he let me scratch it. 0.96

00:41:16.000 I'm like, this is my dude right here. 0.69

00:41:19.000 To that point, the dog's behavior, I'm sure you know this, in a shelter is not reflective upon how his behavior will be.

00:41:27.000 Of course.

00:41:27.000 Or what the female dogs will be.

00:41:29.000 So it took years of training, six years, so much money.

00:41:35.000 Here's a good question. 0.99

00:41:36.000 Why is it so fucked up? 0.99

00:41:38.000 Why do we feel so bad about that happening to dogs, but we don't feel that same way about it happening to people? 0.98

00:41:45.000 I think people do, but it's also about your personal experience.

00:41:50.000 And maybe some people don't feel like they have the means or resources or the ability to start to help those other areas.

00:42:01.000 Like, maybe they don't know how to begin to help, like we were talking about before, causes that deal with child sex trafficking, or they don't know how to start, you know, where do they start to help homeless people and things like that.

00:42:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:14.000 I think the dog situation's an easier step to feeling like you're contributing a little bit.

00:42:19.000 I know for me, like, that whole thing changed because...

00:42:24.000 Feeling like I wanted to help and give back more and finding purpose.

00:42:28.000 I think it's important in life to find purpose.

00:42:29.000 And maybe that's one of the things that you're talking about.

00:42:32.000 Like after my dad passed away, I felt like I wanted to have more purpose because it made me realize the value of life and what this is all about.

00:42:40.000 And it's not about...

00:42:43.000 What can I get?

00:42:44.000 It's what can I give?

00:42:45.000 And so I did research into Alzheimer's and did research into how could I become an advocate and ways that I could inspire and help other people that are dealing with the disease.

00:42:55.000 And it's really a statement on turning pain into purpose.

00:43:00.000 And I think that people who get dogs, maybe they don't have a big enough purpose yet.

00:43:05.000 Does that answer the question?

00:43:08.000 Well...

00:43:09.000 Do they go too deep?

00:43:10.000 Maybe you just like dogs?

00:43:11.000 I love dogs.

00:43:12.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 It doesn't have to be so crazy.

00:43:14.000 Well, you know, I know you like to go into the darkness.

00:43:17.000 The darkness.

00:43:19.000 Yeah.

00:43:20.000 Yeah.

00:43:20.000 No, there's...

00:43:23.000 Dogs are like little love dispensers.

00:43:24.000 They're great.

00:43:25.000 They're pure love.

00:43:26.000 They only function on love in immediate, you know, gratitude. 0.99

00:43:32.000 They just want to lick your face. 1.00

00:43:33.000 I mean, my dog crapped on my carpet last night, but that's okay.

00:43:36.000 I'm not taking it personally.

00:43:37.000 The problem with dogs, I mean, the pound dogs at least, is that sometimes, you know, they're in for too long or they're just habituated to it.

00:43:45.000 It's just they're scared.

00:43:46.000 They went there because they were abused.

00:43:49.000 It takes a lot of effort.

00:43:51.000 But isn't it crazy that we don't think the same way about people? 0.99

00:43:54.000 It's fucked up. 0.99

00:43:54.000 It is. 0.99

00:43:55.000 People that are in prison for stealing something, like, fuck them, keep them in the cage. 1.00

00:43:58.000 Like, there's something about, like... 1.00

00:44:01.000 How many people really should be in prison?

00:44:05.000 How many people really, I mean, really, really should be in prison?

00:44:08.000 A fraction of what we have.

00:44:09.000 Yeah.

00:44:10.000 There's people in there that don't deserve it, and it's definitely a systemic issue, for sure.

00:44:14.000 And it's a...

00:44:17.000 Almost like a caste issue when it comes to, like, how much money you have.

00:44:20.000 It's definitely like a financial issue, too.

00:44:23.000 Right.

00:44:23.000 How about nonviolent drug offenders, right?

00:44:26.000 Think about that.

00:44:27.000 Nonviolent drug offenders, what do they do?

00:44:29.000 They take them, lock them in a cage.

00:44:31.000 But if you're an opiate distributor... 1.00

00:44:34.000 A rapist. 0.98

00:44:36.000 No, no, I'm saying if you're a pill company like OxyContin, you just get money. 0.99

00:44:41.000 You just get money.

00:44:41.000 Yeah.

00:44:42.000 You kill how many million people die every year from OxyContin?

00:44:48.000 What is the worldwide opiate death thing?

00:44:52.000 Is it over 100,000?

00:44:54.000 In this country, I don't think it's quite 100,000 a year.

00:44:57.000 It's a fraction of cigarettes, which is really crazy.

00:44:57.000 75,000?

00:45:01.000 It's a fraction.

00:45:02.000 Cigarettes are so bad.

00:45:04.000 They're so, so bad.

00:45:05.000 They're the worst.

00:45:06.000 But I get what you're saying.

00:45:09.000 You're pumping pharmaceuticals, and that's okay, but people who are in jail because of Marijuana.

00:45:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:16.000 It's fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Some of it's just possession in some states. 1.00

00:45:19.000 Yeah, just having it on you.

00:45:20.000 Having a couple ounces.

00:45:22.000 CDC's response to the opioid overdose epidemic in 2017, more than 70,000 people died from drug overdoses, making it a leading cause of injury-related death in the United States.

00:45:32.000 Out of those deaths, almost 68% involved a prescription or illicit opioid.

00:45:38.000 And a lot of these people who get onto opioids, they never did drugs before.

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:42.000 That's not a word I say with confidence.

00:45:44.000 Opioid.

00:45:45.000 Opioid is a tough one.

00:45:45.000 It's a weird word.

00:45:49.000 It's fucking up the rest of my words. 0.82

00:45:51.000 Because it was like opiates. 0.93

00:45:52.000 I could say that.

00:45:53.000 Opioid.

00:45:54.000 An illicit opioid together is a tough grouping.

00:45:57.000 There's so many people dying of that stuff.

00:45:59.000 And that's legally prescribed.

00:46:02.000 We're talking about a quote-unquote legal drug that is on the market.

00:46:07.000 And they try to give it to you, too.

00:46:08.000 I had my nose fixed.

00:46:09.000 I had a deviated septum, and they put this thing in my nose and cut out all the scar tissue.

00:46:15.000 It was really bad.

00:46:16.000 I was listening to myself talk from like 30, 20-something years ago, and I was like, God, I'm so nasally.

00:46:24.000 And I realized that's what it was.

00:46:25.000 My nose didn't work.

00:46:27.000 It was useless.

00:46:28.000 I had like one quarter of one nostril that I could get air out of.

00:46:32.000 The rest was all smashed up.

00:46:33.000 So they fixed it, but it really didn't hurt.

00:46:36.000 And I'm not trying to be a tough guy.

00:46:38.000 It really didn't hurt.

00:46:39.000 It just didn't hurt.

00:46:40.000 Like after it was over, it was like, yeah, my nose is a little numb, but I'm not like, ah, I'm in pain.

00:46:45.000 It was like, it certainly hurts.

00:46:46.000 But it's not like I need a drug.

00:46:48.000 And the guy offered me two different kinds of pills. 0.99

00:46:51.000 He offered me like Vicodin and Percocets or one of those fucking things. 0.98

00:46:56.000 One of them was hardcore, whichever one it was. 0.99

00:46:58.000 I was like, Jesus, man.

00:46:59.000 Don't they get...

00:47:00.000 I mean, they used to get, you know, perks for prescribing and they would get perks for how much they prescribed out to people.

00:47:06.000 It must be.

00:47:07.000 It must be.

00:47:07.000 And there was that whole pain management system that was implemented into our hospitals is also based off of...

00:47:13.000 Being able to prescribe opioids.

00:47:17.000 Companies were giving kickbacks to hospitals based off of their level of pain.

00:47:22.000 If you had higher pain, you would get money because that would equal dollars on the pharmaceutical side of you prescribing the drug.

00:47:30.000 Really?

00:47:31.000 I mean, I read an article.

00:47:31.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 As long as you got a citation, you can pull that article up.

00:47:37.000 Allegedly, but I did read that.

00:47:39.000 God, it's crazy.

00:47:40.000 The doctor didn't, I mean, he was like trying to, he wasn't just encouraging me.

00:47:44.000 He was pushing these things.

00:47:46.000 He's like, you're going to need this.

00:47:48.000 And I was like, man, everybody told me, like, oh my god, it's the worst things ever.

00:47:52.000 And apparently it used to be that they would pack your nose up with gauze, and then when they pulled the gauze out at the end of like a week or so, it was like really painful.

00:48:00.000 But now they don't even do that.

00:48:01.000 They have like these nose tampons, and they just slide right into place, and they come out after a week or whatever the fuck it was where I had to keep it in my nose to keep everything open after the surgery.

00:48:10.000 But it was nothing.

00:48:12.000 And this guy was like, you need pills.

00:48:14.000 I'm telling you, it was nothing.

00:48:16.000 It was over.

00:48:17.000 It doesn't feel good, but it doesn't hurt.

00:48:20.000 Was he trying to Michael Jackson you?

00:48:22.000 I just think they do that with everybody. 0.99

00:48:24.000 They don't want to hear you bullshit about pain. 0.98

00:48:27.000 It gets you in and out. 0.99

00:48:27.000 They don't want to hear you whine either. 0.99

00:48:28.000 It's a drive-thru.

00:48:30.000 My knee is killing me.

00:48:31.000 What to do? 1.00

00:48:31.000 Take those pills I gave you, stupid. 1.00

00:48:33.000 I feel like a lot We're good to go. 1.00

00:49:13.000 And then immediately the doctor wants to put her on a bunch of medication. 1.00

00:49:15.000 Not once did the doctor ask her about her exercise.

00:49:19.000 Not once did the doctor ask about how she eats and what her history was with nutrition.

00:49:24.000 Didn't even offer like an alternate way for her to eat to sort of build her heart strength from within.

00:49:32.000 Just wants to put her right on medication.

00:49:35.000 And to me that's a big issue with our medical professionals these days.

00:49:39.000 They're just lazy. 0.63

00:49:40.000 Well, it may be a little bit of that, but also it's like that you can do. 1.00

00:49:44.000 You can get a person on medication, but trying to get a person to get their shit together is fucking way too hard. 0.99

00:49:51.000 It is way too hard. 0.99

00:49:52.000 Especially if someone's coming to you with like health issues, you can look at them and go, hey man, you got to get your shit together. 1.00

00:49:58.000 You're going to fucking die. 1.00

00:49:59.000 Stop eating Twinkies. 1.00

00:50:00.000 Stop drinking soda all day.

00:50:02.000 Come on.

00:50:02.000 I would rather that.

00:50:03.000 But you can't do that.

00:50:05.000 First of all, they probably won't listen.

00:50:06.000 They'll get mad at you.

00:50:08.000 Say you're fat shaming them. 1.00

00:50:09.000 You can't tell someone that they have to get their shit together and then, boom, they get their shit together. 1.00

00:50:14.000 It's like a long process and they have to be fully on board. 0.99

00:50:18.000 I agree with that.

00:50:19.000 I just think it goes further to the doctors not having the care or whatever it is to at least provide a little bit of information.

00:50:30.000 But I think to be a doctor, to give like a really good holistic approach, like a holistic response, like let's take care of your whole body.

00:50:37.000 Let's not think about this injury.

00:50:39.000 Let's think about your whole body.

00:50:40.000 Why did this injury happen?

00:50:41.000 Why do you get sick?

00:50:43.000 What's going on?

00:50:44.000 And what can we strengthen?

00:50:45.000 Let's take a look at your nutrition.

00:50:46.000 Let's take a look at your lifestyle.

00:50:47.000 Let's take a look at the amount of sleep you get.

00:50:50.000 I know.

00:50:50.000 No one has time for that.

00:50:51.000 That's the problem. 1.00

00:50:52.000 The system is fucked. 1.00

00:50:53.000 To be a doctor like that is really fucking time consuming. 1.00

00:50:56.000 And these doctors are fucking pumping people in and out of their offices. 0.99

00:50:59.000 They're dealing with insurance and malpractice lawsuits. 0.99

00:51:02.000 And it's a business.

00:51:03.000 It's a crazy business. 0.99

00:51:04.000 And they're still in hock for the fucking student loans they got to go to medical school. 0.99

00:51:07.000 Yeah, they still have to pay their student loans. 1.00

00:51:09.000 It's so fucked up. 1.00

00:51:10.000 Shout out to my friend Steve Graham. 1.00

00:51:11.000 He was fucking struggling with his student loans until he was like well into his adulthood. 0.97

00:51:17.000 He was an ophthalmologist and for him it was just a catastrophic amount of money that you have to spend to go to school. 0.99

00:51:22.000 That's so unfortunate.

00:51:24.000 It's crazy!

00:51:26.000 You send them out of the gate with an incentive to do more surgery because they're all broke.

00:51:31.000 And they're on debt.

00:51:32.000 They're in debt.

00:51:33.000 In a big way.

00:51:34.000 Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:51:36.000 Imagine you got to catch up to hundreds of thousands of dollars you spent.

00:51:39.000 And you got a wife and a kid or a husband and a kid. 0.76

00:51:41.000 Oh, Jesus, Jessie Mae! 1.00

00:51:42.000 It's so stressful.

00:51:43.000 And then be able to operate or prescribe or to be present.

00:51:48.000 Or to be on the front lines today.

00:51:49.000 And to be on the front lines.

00:51:50.000 Today.

00:51:51.000 But I mean, a lot of that is the breakdown in the overall system.

00:51:54.000 The overall, you know, healthcare system is completely, it's so disjointed from really keeping people healthy.

00:52:01.000 I know because it's a business and maybe it's my hippie heart, but...

00:52:05.000 Isn't there some way we could shake the shit up so that at least it's starting to give people information, knowledge, and tools so they can have somewhat of a healthier existence? 0.99

00:52:16.000 The problem is people are a lot like dogs in some ways. 0.98

00:52:20.000 It's very difficult to learn the bad lessons that you learned when you were young. 0.99

00:52:24.000 You know, like you get a dog from the pound and their life was fucked up and they're all sketchy. 0.95

00:52:28.000 That's the same thing with human beings. 0.99

00:52:30.000 It's also the same thing with diet. 0.97

00:52:32.000 Like if people get on a certain diet when they're really young and their parents are on this shitty diet, it's fucking hard for you to get them off of that. 0.92

00:52:40.000 It's ingrained. 0.97

00:52:41.000 It's a part of their genetics.

00:52:43.000 It's so hard.

00:52:43.000 All animals, whether it's humans or dogs or anything, they seem to get trained by their environment.

00:52:48.000 And then once they're trained, once they've sort of adapted to their environment in whatever way they had to, it's really hard to get them to shift.

00:52:55.000 It's really hard to get them to change.

00:52:57.000 It's that reinforcement.

00:52:58.000 It's like behavior and reinforcement.

00:53:00.000 You have to almost take it upon yourself to recognize why you're doing something and what is it that's reinforcing you to do it.

00:53:07.000 And that takes a lot of self-awareness and self-work to go, oh, I'm doing this.

00:53:14.000 For a lot of girls that I know, because I have a huge female fan base, when I do Dr. Peluso on Mondays, thanks to you, I'm a doctor.

00:53:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:53:24.000 I answer questions for everybody and sometimes they're medical and I'll Google and try and give a little bit of information but a lot of times it's girls like this guy is such a jerk and you know should I text him back and you're allowing the assholes into your life to satisfy that void inside of you you know you're sort of allowing that behavior because the negative effect that you have is like that reinforcement and just brings you back into that cycle of trauma and abuse that you experienced before. 0.99

00:53:56.000 That's very deep.

00:53:58.000 I feel like I can get deep here with you, Joe, and you won't judge me.

00:54:01.000 No, I don't judge you at all.

00:54:02.000 And as a father of daughters, that's why I say, like, do you feel a certain way about raising daughters in this climate?

00:54:09.000 Because that's my experience, and I know what it's like.

00:54:12.000 I'm a very hopeful person.

00:54:14.000 And my hope, not just for my daughters, not just for everyone in this room, but for everybody, is that all this stuff is a wake-up call for us.

00:54:22.000 And I think that when we're talking about these deeply ingrained patterns of behavior that people get into, And that we need to, you know, especially with healthcare, but also with education, all the things that you need to keep your body healthy and to allow you to advance in life,

00:54:38.000 to give you a chance in life, to be in a place that's crime-free, to have nutrition, and to have healthcare, and to have education.

00:54:46.000 If we could give that to everybody.

00:54:48.000 Like, I've always said, like, if we really wanted to make this the best country ever, what would be the first thing you would do?

00:54:54.000 You'd say, well, we need to have less losers. 0.97

00:54:57.000 I don't mean losers like they're weak. 0.96

00:54:59.000 I mean like they got dealt the wrong hand.

00:55:02.000 You got born into a terrible neighborhood that's crime infested and it's been this way for decades and no one's going to change it and there's just gangs and drugs.

00:55:12.000 You can't say that someone who's born in that neighborhood has the same starting line as someone who was born in Bel Air.

00:55:19.000 It's crazy to say.

00:55:21.000 Right.

00:55:21.000 I agree.

00:55:22.000 So we gotta figure out how to have more people have more of a chance.

00:55:28.000 And instead of thinking that it's all for us, you know, like the people that do well, like whether it's through Wall Street or business, instead of like continually chasing more and more money, maybe something like this would make us say like, We gotta reinvest in bringing everybody up and then there'll be more competition which would be better for everybody because you have more people that are striving to get better and people push you.

00:55:54.000 People that are good push you and you become better because of them.

00:55:57.000 Iron sharpens iron.

00:55:59.000 It's in the Bible.

00:56:00.000 You keep moving.

00:56:00.000 You need it.

00:56:01.000 And then we could somehow or another make things at least slightly more even because it's not like you can't fix it.

00:56:09.000 It's a huge disparity, though.

00:56:11.000 But it's not like these crime-ridden, like, this is just what it is.

00:56:14.000 No, there's no solution.

00:56:15.000 We've put all the mathematicians and all the social engineers, and we can't fix it.

00:56:20.000 The education aspect is a huge, huge issue, like the access to education.

00:56:25.000 Access to safety.

00:56:26.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:56:28.000 And then healthy food.

00:56:29.000 Mm-hmm.

00:56:30.000 And then understanding the choices, like why you want to eat healthy food and what's the difference, and educate people.

00:56:36.000 Just educate people on that.

00:56:37.000 How many people grow up and they don't even know that drinking all that sugar or eating all that sugar is going to fuck you up long term?

00:56:43.000 Well, it goes back to what you were saying about the parental influence.

00:56:46.000 It's ingrained in who you are.

00:56:48.000 It becomes that sort of vicious cycle of rinse and repeat how you eat, how you live.

00:56:56.000 It's definitely an issue.

00:56:58.000 But there is something to say about people who experience...

00:57:02.000 Severe trauma and they live in bad neighborhoods where they go the complete opposite route.

00:57:07.000 You know, both of us.

00:57:09.000 I mean, look at comedians.

00:57:10.000 Yes.

00:57:10.000 I mean, that's born out of a seed of trauma.

00:57:14.000 And, you know, there's a lot of amazing businessmen and women who achieved what they achieved because of the disparity they experienced in their childhood.

00:57:23.000 So there is something to the dichotomy of the journey from experiencing the trauma to achieving success, but I do agree.

00:57:30.000 Everyone needs to be lifted up so that the whole community can experience the benefit of that.

00:57:37.000 The thing about this COVID that makes me scared on a level, like on a little bit of a level, is desperate people do really bad things.

00:57:47.000 Yes.

00:57:48.000 Because they need things for their family to survive.

00:57:51.000 And I'm not saying that's where we're at right now.

00:57:53.000 It could have gone that route.

00:57:54.000 But imagine having people with access to safety and education and food.

00:57:59.000 Everyone would chill the fuck out a bit.

00:58:01.000 Right, because he wouldn't be worried about survival. 0.96

00:58:03.000 No! 0.98

00:58:04.000 But still, you know, there's so many things that are fucked up about this, right? 0.94

00:58:09.000 That we've never had this happen in our lifetimes, hasn't happened in a hundred years. 0.98

00:58:13.000 There's so many things that are fucked up about this.

00:58:15.000 But the repercussions, we've got to be real careful about how we manage the repercussions of starting everything back up, the economy, starting it...

00:58:24.000 What do you think is going to be, what do you think one of the first issues is with opening things back up that we're going to experience? 0.98

00:58:30.000 Restaurants, comedy shows, like that kind of shit. 0.99

00:58:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:32.000 Where people gather. 1.00

00:58:33.000 Movie theaters are probably fucked, right? 0.99

00:58:35.000 Are you saying about the reinfection and the re... 0.99

00:58:38.000 I think they're going to be scared to...

00:58:40.000 People are going to be scared to go.

00:58:41.000 They're not going to want anybody sitting like right next to each other in the movie theater like it used to be.

00:58:46.000 So they're probably like multiple seats that are open.

00:58:48.000 So the movie theaters won't make nearly as much money.

00:58:50.000 Probably cut their...

00:58:52.000 I mean, who knows?

00:58:53.000 Probably maybe even more than in half.

00:58:54.000 Yeah.

00:58:55.000 Right?

00:58:55.000 I mean, there's gonna be a lot of people that are scared to go to the movies and now they also set a precedent where you can watch movies on Apple TV. It's not the same!

00:59:03.000 I miss going to movies and I know that's such a like self-serving desire and want and it's not necessary, but I fucking miss it. 0.59

00:59:10.000 I miss going to the movies. 0.91

00:59:11.000 It's not the same watching at home.

00:59:12.000 You know what never happens at home?

00:59:12.000 No one ever talks at home.

00:59:15.000 Yeah.

00:59:15.000 There's not two people in front of you having a conversation.

00:59:17.000 What do you think he's gonna do with that?

00:59:19.000 I yell at those people. 1.00

00:59:20.000 Those fucking people. 1.00

00:59:21.000 I'm an asshole. 1.00

00:59:21.000 But that's the problem with going to the movies. 1.00

00:59:24.000 Look, if you get lucky, you go to the movies and there's a hundred cool people in there, you have a great time.

00:59:28.000 I've seen some movies with cool people.

00:59:31.000 I think the movie really dictates that as well.

00:59:34.000 But if you're in a movie where everybody's laughing, like if it's a killer movie, it's a really funny movie.

00:59:39.000 It's an experience!

00:59:40.000 It's almost like being in a comedy club.

00:59:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:42.000 Yeah, you feel the energy. 1.00

00:59:43.000 But when motherfuckers talk, you know when that really doesn't happen? 0.99

00:59:46.000 When it's like nerdy movies. 1.00

00:59:48.000 You know, like Filmhouse.

00:59:50.000 You know, if you go see like Peanut Butter Falcon. 0.98

00:59:52.000 Nobody's fucking talking during that. 0.96

00:59:54.000 You didn't see Peanut Butter Falcon? 0.99

00:59:55.000 No, what is it?

00:59:56.000 With Shia LaBeouf?

00:59:57.000 Is that how you say his name?

00:59:59.000 If it's not, we're going to say it that way from now on.

01:00:02.000 I'm sorry, Shia. 1.00

01:00:04.000 I think that's how you say it.

01:00:04.000 I'm a big fan.

01:00:05.000 Is that how you say it?

01:00:06.000 How do you say it?

01:00:07.000 Les bouffes? 0.98

01:00:08.000 It sounds like something that gay guys do in France. 0.99

01:00:12.000 How dare you? 0.99

01:00:13.000 Les bouffes?

01:00:13.000 I'm sorry.

01:00:14.000 Les bouffes.

01:00:15.000 Peanut Butter Falcon was this great movie about this special needs kid and his...

01:00:21.000 Friend that he picks up along the way in the journey that they make together.

01:00:24.000 Like a total, you know, feel-good movie, but it features this really talented special-needs actor.

01:00:30.000 It's a heartwarming film, and Shai, he's a great actor.

01:00:34.000 Did you ever see that thing where he, when Trump was elected, he was getting people to chant, he will not divide us, he will not divide us?

01:00:44.000 Yeah, I remember something about that.

01:00:46.000 Where was he?

01:00:47.000 Well, this is why it became funny.

01:00:49.000 Was it Reddit or 4chan?

01:00:50.000 4chan, right?

01:00:52.000 That did it?

01:00:52.000 4chan.

01:00:53.000 So there's this website of mischievous people called 4chan.

01:00:59.000 And they found out that he had set up on his website, he had a webcam on this flag that said he will not divide us.

01:01:07.000 And he had this flag in the middle of Oklahoma somewhere on a webcam streaming on his website.

01:01:11.000 So the geniuses, these nerd geniuses, decided to triangulate where that was based on the stars that you could see on the webcam in the distance.

01:01:21.000 They figured out where it was on planet Earth.

01:01:24.000 Then they had someone drive around in a truck and honk the horn while another person...

01:01:29.000 Was listening to the webcam and see if it gets louder or quieter. 0.99

01:01:34.000 So as they got closer and closer, it's genius shit. 0.99

01:01:37.000 They finally got to the webcam. 0.99

01:01:39.000 They took the flag down. 1.00

01:01:40.000 The guy looks in front of the camera and goes, fuck Shia LaBeouf. 1.00

01:01:46.000 I have to say that was a fucking rollercoaster of a story. 1.00

01:01:49.000 It's genius. 0.99

01:01:50.000 It was a genius thing.

01:01:51.000 But here's the thing.

01:01:52.000 Radiolab had a whole podcast about it.

01:01:53.000 It was really interesting.

01:01:54.000 Because first of all, no one got hurt.

01:01:56.000 This is not about violence.

01:01:58.000 This is not about terrorism.

01:01:59.000 No one got hurt.

01:02:00.000 About point of views.

01:02:01.000 But it's also funny.

01:02:03.000 It's also funny. 0.99

01:02:04.000 And if you don't think that's funny, well then you must not have had a job that you hated where you sit in a cubicle and you Google funny shit because that's funny. 0.99

01:02:10.000 It is really fucking funny. 0.99

01:02:12.000 And look, Shia's going to get over it. 1.00

01:02:12.000 That is fucking funny. 1.00

01:02:14.000 If that's all the guy did, say fuck Shia LaBeouf, that shit's hilarious. 1.00

01:02:17.000 If that was me and I was a pretentious fuck and I had a sign that said he will not divide us and I put it on my website. 1.00

01:02:22.000 Would you show him your butthole? 1.00

01:02:23.000 No, but if I did and they found my flag and they took it down and they went fuck Joe Rogan, I'd be like, ah, you got me. 1.00

01:02:30.000 That's pretty, like, talented, and the fact that they found it by the stars? 0.78

01:02:34.000 But here's the thing.

01:02:36.000 4chan, they said, well, it was on this website, 4chan, that's been known to be sexist and misogynistic and all the other isstics and isms.

01:02:47.000 What does that have to do with it?

01:02:48.000 It has nothing to do with it!

01:02:49.000 No.

01:02:50.000 Because someone might have posted, like, a Hitler frog tweet.

01:02:54.000 With the Pepe the Frog.

01:02:56.000 Oh, Hitler Frog? 0.90

01:02:56.000 What's that children's book? 0.90

01:02:57.000 You know, the Pepe the Frog.

01:02:58.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yes.

01:02:59.000 Because on that same message board, somebody might have posted a picture of that, of the thousands and thousands of users, they'll use something like that to say, oh, this is just what 4chan is.

01:03:09.000 Right, to group it. 0.52

01:03:09.000 It's just the worst people on Earth, the biggest monsters ever. 0.52

01:03:13.000 Yeah, and people that found that fucking flag by staring at the stars. 1.00

01:03:17.000 Okay, they're that too. 0.99

01:03:19.000 You don't think that's amazing?

01:03:20.000 You don't think that's amazing? 1.00

01:03:22.000 And all they did is say, fuck Shia LaBeou. 1.00

01:03:24.000 That's it! 1.00

01:03:26.000 That's like talent that should be focused in a specific field.

01:03:30.000 Listen, it probably is.

01:03:31.000 They're probably just bored. 1.00

01:03:33.000 They're probably tired of this fucking shit. 1.00

01:03:35.000 And they saw it and they're like, this guy, I'm going to find it. 1.00

01:03:39.000 I'm going to find that flag.

01:03:40.000 And then they put their nerd minds to the test. 1.00

01:03:43.000 Do you know how good it must have felt to find the fucking flag? 1.00

01:03:47.000 Yeah, it's like a movie. 0.99

01:03:48.000 Like find an X and dig a hole and find Pirate's Booty.

01:03:52.000 It's like a treasure hunt.

01:03:53.000 It's like the ultimate treasure hunt.

01:03:54.000 It's a treasure hunt.

01:03:55.000 So Radiolab took the podcast down.

01:03:59.000 I love Radiolab.

01:04:00.000 It's one of my absolute favorite podcasts.

01:04:03.000 Why'd they take it down?

01:04:04.000 Because people were complaining that they're supporting 4chan by making that podcast.

01:04:10.000 But that feels like a threat of freedom of speech.

01:04:15.000 Well, if people don't like something, we're going to start taking it down.

01:04:18.000 Like, no, keep it up, because only those conversations are the ones that move the needle on a societal level.

01:04:25.000 Like, only those conversations where people are debating, do we learn and grow if we open ourselves up to that?

01:04:31.000 I mean, if you and I sat here and agreed on everything, it'd be a fun conversation, but it's also interesting to have, you know, alternate points of view and learn from one another.

01:04:39.000 Also, they didn't do anything that deserves to have them nuked from the historical record.

01:04:45.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.93

01:04:46.000 If you have people and you have an open message board, which is what it is, and people post awful shit, that doesn't even really represent who they are most of the time. 0.59

01:04:57.000 When people are posting, they're posting because they're bored or they want a reaction. 0.87

01:05:01.000 It's a terrible way to communicate with people.

01:05:04.000 It is.

01:05:05.000 And it's also, find a way to create some sort of algorithm to block people like that.

01:05:10.000 Instead of taking down the people who are putting up these videos, instead of censoring, you should just block the trolls.

01:05:19.000 Block the trolls and they can go someplace else.

01:05:21.000 But people are doing that.

01:05:22.000 They do that themselves because they want to get a reaction out of people.

01:05:25.000 They do.

01:05:25.000 I guarantee, when you see people that post that Pepe the Frog with a Hitler hat on, they're doing this.

01:05:31.000 They're doing it to freak people out more than they're doing it because that's their ideology, that they're actually a Nazi. 0.99

01:05:39.000 Way more of them are doing it to fuck with you, and they're trying to do it anonymously. 0.99

01:05:42.000 Yes. 1.00

01:05:43.000 It's just a weird way to communicate.

01:05:45.000 I experienced that early on during this whole quarantine thing where I was doing a Zoom, a podcast via Zoom.

01:05:51.000 Oh, did you get Zoomed?

01:05:52.000 Homie. 0.71

01:05:53.000 Woo! 0.99

01:05:54.000 I've been hearing about these.

01:05:55.000 What happened?

01:05:56.000 So I went to record my podcast, Sharp Tongue Podcast, shout out to my own podcast, on Zoom, and I didn't set the parameters.

01:06:04.000 I didn't know that you, there's like settings to it to make it kind of closed.

01:06:10.000 Oh, you can make it closed.

01:06:11.000 I didn't.

01:06:12.000 I sent the link out.

01:06:13.000 I didn't know you could make it closed.

01:06:14.000 Oh.

01:06:15.000 I sent the link out and everybody who had the link could access and post and show their video.

01:06:23.000 Oh, no.

01:06:24.000 And I didn't know this because this was like the first week of, you know, everyone figuring out Zoom.

01:06:28.000 And so it went dark web quick. 0.99

01:06:32.000 There was definitely someone fucking, a woman screaming in the background, people screaming the N-word at me, saying, Jesse likes to fuck N-words and all this craziness and screaming and death metal. 0.99

01:06:46.000 Did you record all this? 1.00

01:06:47.000 No, but...

01:06:48.000 Why? 0.91

01:06:49.000 Because I was just trying to shut it the fuck down. 0.92

01:06:52.000 Oh my God, you need a real producer. 0.94

01:06:53.000 Because I was trying to do a podcast.

01:06:55.000 If that was young Jamie, he would have hit record and we'd be like, this is going to be amazing.

01:06:59.000 We're going to be on Reddit's front page.

01:07:01.000 It was so early on, I didn't have access to my normal producer girl, and so I was just like, oh, I can do this myself.

01:07:06.000 I'm going to learn and do it myself, and I learned the hard way to not...

01:07:10.000 Dip out into the web.

01:07:12.000 People left it their own, like, their own expression. 0.99

01:07:16.000 If they know they're not being watched or if they know that they're not displaying who they really are, they're fucking dark. 0.91

01:07:23.000 They can be, but I think even that, they're trying to get a reaction. 0.97

01:07:27.000 Exactly.

01:07:28.000 They were trying to get a reaction. 0.99

01:07:29.000 It's just a dumb way to communicate openly with strangers. 0.89

01:07:33.000 They got one because I was like, oh, oh, whoa, what is going on in here? 0.97

01:07:37.000 You can't have that.

01:07:38.000 I had to shut that down, but it was a quick little glimpse into how people will try and get a reaction out of you.

01:07:38.000 You can't have that in your life.

01:07:46.000 Yeah, they're bored.

01:07:47.000 People are so on edge right now. 1.00

01:07:49.000 They're bored out of their fucking mind. 0.99

01:07:51.000 And bored is okay. 1.00

01:07:52.000 We still got two more weeks.

01:07:53.000 Boredom's fine. 0.72

01:07:54.000 I'm not afraid of boredom.

01:07:55.000 People are going, I'm so bored. 1.00

01:07:56.000 Fucking learn a language. 1.00

01:07:58.000 Pick up a guitar. 1.00

01:07:59.000 Boredom is a time for you to put your brain to use or to give your brain a break.

01:08:04.000 You know, people are like, I'm bored.

01:08:06.000 Go out for a walk.

01:08:06.000 Really?

01:08:10.000 Can we not do that?

01:08:11.000 Can we not go outside in nature?

01:08:13.000 I think people need interests.

01:08:15.000 Exactly.

01:08:16.000 Find something you're interested in, whether it's documentaries on shit or find something you want to try to learn how to do. 0.93

01:08:22.000 Find a purpose. 0.78

01:08:23.000 There's a lot of things you can learn how to do online.

01:08:25.000 There's so many things.

01:08:26.000 I mean, there's no excuse now.

01:08:27.000 I mean, Yale even offered that, like, course in the, what is it, like, well-being?

01:08:32.000 Like, something like the...

01:08:33.000 Who's going to teach that course?

01:08:35.000 I mean, probably some lady who has a lot of cats, but it was a free course from Yale, is the point. 1.00

01:08:40.000 Early on, they're like, here, you could learn all sorts of things in this.

01:08:43.000 I think boredom is an excuse for laziness.

01:08:45.000 Yale should have a course on stuff like that, on self-help people and hypnotists.

01:08:51.000 What do you think about hypnotists?

01:08:52.000 Do you think it's real?

01:08:53.000 Have you ever been hypnotized?

01:08:54.000 Yes.

01:08:55.000 Can you tell me what it's like?

01:08:57.000 Well, my friend Vinny Shorman, he does what I do for the UFC. He does that for a lot of Muay Thai events.

01:09:04.000 Great guy.

01:09:05.000 He's a commentator.

01:09:06.000 And he's also a hypnotist and a mental coach.

01:09:08.000 He works with a lot of fighters.

01:09:09.000 And I said, I want to know what it's like.

01:09:11.000 He said, okay, I'll hypnotize you.

01:09:12.000 And I'm like, all right, here we go.

01:09:14.000 So he sits me down.

01:09:16.000 He counts me through this thing.

01:09:17.000 And next thing you know, you're in this weird state.

01:09:19.000 I don't know how long it took to get me hypnotized.

01:09:22.000 A couple minutes or so.

01:09:23.000 But I gave into it.

01:09:25.000 I was trying to just listen to him.

01:09:28.000 He's a friend.

01:09:28.000 I really like him.

01:09:29.000 So it was easy to trust him and just say, all right, let's see what this is all about.

01:09:32.000 And I feel like it puts you in a place where it cuts down.

01:09:38.000 You're still conscious.

01:09:39.000 You're not like, at least I was.

01:09:41.000 It's not like you don't know what's going on.

01:09:43.000 You wake up with your pants down.

01:09:45.000 It's not like that.

01:09:46.000 Hello, college.

01:09:47.000 Hello.

01:09:52.000 That's a funny thing you always say. 0.99

01:09:53.000 Whenever you text, Jessie Mae will send me a text, but is there a right fuck? 1.00

01:09:57.000 It's F-U-X-T. And I said, why don't you ever use the C? And she goes, it's too open. 0.99

01:10:02.000 It reminds me of college.

01:10:07.000 Remember that one time I texted you and I was like, I'm going to Japan.

01:10:14.000 Oh my god, that's so exciting.

01:10:15.000 When?

01:10:15.000 I was like, just kidding, I'm high eating sushi.

01:10:23.000 So, hey, I was reading this thing about Japan, about their COVID deaths are really low.

01:10:29.000 Am I hypnotized right now?

01:10:31.000 Because you talked about it and totally diverted.

01:10:33.000 Oh, the hypnotist thing?

01:10:34.000 Yeah.

01:10:34.000 So, I keep doing it.

01:10:36.000 I keep talking about it.

01:10:37.000 But it was interesting.

01:10:37.000 It's like, just, I wanted to be, sounds crazy, but my thing would be to try to figure out how to distract myself less, have less procrastination, You're a procrastinator?

01:10:55.000 No, very little, but I want to get rid of it.

01:10:57.000 Even the little I got left.

01:10:59.000 I can't imagine.

01:11:00.000 If you're procrastinating, it just seems like a lie.

01:11:03.000 A couple years ago, maybe it worked.

01:11:04.000 Before I moved into the studio. 0.98

01:11:06.000 But it was just an interesting way of channeling out all the bullshit and getting to the heart of who you are in this weird way. 0.98

01:11:17.000 It gets to this weird Center of you. 0.99

01:11:19.000 And then as it expands back out to regular consciousness, it's like you're filled in with the outside world and a lot of other shit.

01:11:25.000 It reminded me a lot of experiences that you can get or states of mind that you can get when you do the float tank.

01:11:31.000 I was going to say ketamine, but yeah.

01:11:32.000 I've never done that.

01:11:33.000 But I know a lot of people are into that now. 0.99

01:11:35.000 I don't know what the fuck's going on. 0.96

01:11:36.000 I know so many people are doing ketamine. 0.99

01:11:37.000 I'm like, settle down. 1.00

01:11:38.000 That kills people, you fucks. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Well, I mean, if you get the right guy, the right person to do it, you could survive. 1.00

01:11:44.000 You're having ketamine parties up in the beach.

01:11:45.000 Come on over, guys.

01:11:47.000 We're having quarantine ketamine parties in my apartment.

01:11:49.000 There's a thing about the float tank.

01:11:50.000 You get to this state where you can kind of see things more clearly.

01:11:53.000 Yeah, you feel like you're one with everything.

01:11:55.000 It's strange.

01:11:56.000 It's very weird, right?

01:11:57.000 Very healing, though.

01:11:59.000 So it sounds like hypnotism partnered with the right person could be a way to get into your mind and sort of do some therapy?

01:12:08.000 Because that's what float tank was for me as well.

01:12:08.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:12:11.000 I think it's real similar because it leaves you alone, other than the fact that when you do hypnotism you'll be suggested and you'll be having a conversation with the therapist, the person who's doing it to you.

01:12:22.000 I'm only basing it on my one experience.

01:12:24.000 I've seen some other hypnotism stuff online but I've only had it done once.

01:12:28.000 But I think that as people learn how to float and learn how to relax, you can kind of use your inner voice and you can guide yourself through various aspects of things that you find troubling, things that are bothering you, things,

01:12:44.000 patterns, bad patterns that you keep recreating over and over again.

01:12:47.000 Anxieties.

01:12:48.000 Yeah, and perspective.

01:12:49.000 And I think that there's a real value to being alone with your thoughts, and there's no better place to be alone with your thoughts than a float tank.

01:12:56.000 Yeah, sensory deprivation.

01:12:57.000 I think it's a sense, in a way, it's like a self-hypnotism.

01:13:01.000 There's something to it.

01:13:02.000 That's interesting.

01:13:02.000 That's an interesting approach.

01:13:04.000 I think you're probably right.

01:13:05.000 It's almost like you're in a womb, in the womb again. 1.00

01:13:09.000 Yeah, you're free of all the bullshit. 1.00

01:13:12.000 It really helps you just let the fuck go. 1.00

01:13:14.000 Let go of your ego, of your worry, and all of that. 0.99

01:13:18.000 Do you float a lot?

01:13:19.000 I have one right here. 1.00

01:13:20.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:13:21.000 I have a tank right here. 1.00

01:13:22.000 That's right.

01:13:23.000 It's the beautiful thing about it is that it gets you away from all the other information.

01:13:29.000 Like, you're always getting information.

01:13:30.000 There's always something coming at you.

01:13:32.000 Always.

01:13:33.000 Most of it's subliminal.

01:13:34.000 You don't even realize the effect it's having on your brain.

01:13:37.000 Sure, sure.

01:13:38.000 And all of those synapses that are firing, and at some point they need to relieve themselves.

01:13:42.000 And when you're sleeping, I'm sure it affects your ability to go into those deep REM cycles.

01:13:47.000 You're supposed to get like three or four a night.

01:13:49.000 Maybe you don't get as many because all day long we're inundated with these phones and these screens and the sounds.

01:13:54.000 And especially us, we're in the city.

01:13:56.000 There's value to removing yourself from a highly populated area.

01:14:00.000 That's the one thing I've realized about this quarantine is the appeal of the rural life.

01:14:05.000 Mm-hmm.

01:14:06.000 You know?

01:14:07.000 I was talking with Justin, our friends from ABX, and he was showing me a video of his home, and it's just all this beautiful grass.

01:14:13.000 Just green.

01:14:14.000 Don't tell anybody where he lives.

01:14:15.000 I won't, but it was just beautiful. 1.00

01:14:17.000 If you guys, I'll send you the video, you guys can geotag it by the blades of grass, you fucking nerds. 0.98

01:14:26.000 Cut to article, Jessie Mae supports 4chan. 0.98

01:14:30.000 I'm out there protesting for 4chan, yeah.

01:14:34.000 I just think there's a value to surrounding yourself in nature.

01:14:38.000 And for you, I'm sure you've provided yourself an existence that...

01:14:45.000 It represents your values in life, but do you feel like the way you live right now in your house, in your home, feels like a real homestead to you?

01:14:53.000 Or does it still feel out of place because you wish you were someplace else?

01:14:56.000 Well, when things like this happen, one thing you realize, there's two things you realize.

01:15:00.000 One, that it's really nice to have a nice community.

01:15:03.000 I have a bunch of nice neighbors.

01:15:05.000 I wave to them.

01:15:05.000 I love that.

01:15:07.000 I love that we talk to each other.

01:15:08.000 I love that.

01:15:09.000 That's really sweet. 0.97

01:15:10.000 It means a lot to you when shit gets weird, you know? 0.67

01:15:13.000 When you have a bunch of nice people that live near you. 0.95

01:15:16.000 But two, makes me realize the value of being able to grow your own food. 0.99

01:15:20.000 Like, if you lived on a fucking farm and some shit went down, you wouldn't have to go anywhere. 0.99

01:15:24.000 You've got... 1.00

01:15:24.000 You'd go... 1.00

01:15:26.000 Animals and vegetables and you're managing everything.

01:15:29.000 If you live on a small organic farm, that's like the move.

01:15:32.000 That is the move.

01:15:33.000 The move is you have a small organic farm and then you have a few friends that live on this property with a small organic farm.

01:15:41.000 And you split time. 1.00

01:15:43.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:15:43.000 And you share the value of the resources of the stuff that you grow yourself. 1.00

01:15:48.000 You could get away from having supermarkets if you did that.

01:15:51.000 You really could.

01:15:52.000 You know who lives like that?

01:15:53.000 The actor who played Shazam is Zachary Levi.

01:15:56.000 I like that guy a lot.

01:15:57.000 Have you interviewed him?

01:15:59.000 I would love to have him on.

01:15:59.000 He'd be a great guest on here.

01:16:00.000 He speaks a lot about mental health and he has a place.

01:16:03.000 Does he really?

01:16:03.000 Yeah.

01:16:04.000 He's great on The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.

01:16:05.000 Oh, he was wonderful.

01:16:06.000 He was such a great...

01:16:09.000 Supporting character to her.

01:16:10.000 Yeah.

01:16:11.000 And Shazam was amazing.

01:16:12.000 Did you watch that with your kids?

01:16:13.000 Yeah, it was adorable.

01:16:14.000 So fun.

01:16:14.000 But he lives like that.

01:16:15.000 He's got like a commune.

01:16:17.000 Not like a culty thing.

01:16:19.000 Mushrooms. 0.93

01:16:19.000 Oh, sex. 0.93

01:16:23.000 You're just saying words. 0.95

01:16:25.000 Mushrooms. 0.99

01:16:26.000 Sex. 0.99

01:16:27.000 Which sounds great. 0.94

01:16:28.000 I know how they do it.

01:16:29.000 It always starts like, oh, we're just going to grow tomatoes together. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Next thing you know, he's gotta fuck your wife and you have to give him 10%. 1.00

01:16:37.000 It's literally Wanderlust, that movie Wanderlust. 1.00

01:16:40.000 Has anybody ever done a cult right?

01:16:43.000 Anybody?

01:16:44.000 Well, what's doing a cult right?

01:16:46.000 What would the Joe Rogan cult look like? 0.98

01:16:48.000 The problem is you die and someone else takes over and they fuck it up. 0.89

01:16:51.000 That's what happens with every good empire. 0.91

01:16:56.000 Even if you figure it out the first time, if you get it right, someone dies, the new guy comes along, ruins everything.

01:17:03.000 Would you have people drink the punch?

01:17:06.000 No.

01:17:07.000 It'd be too much work to run a cult.

01:17:09.000 It's too much work.

01:17:10.000 But I'm saying it's amazing that no one, like the last one to come up with a good one was like Scientology, right?

01:17:15.000 That's the last one that stuck.

01:17:17.000 Who was that?

01:17:18.000 L. Ron Hubbard.

01:17:20.000 Science fiction author, by the way. 0.99

01:17:22.000 Fucking genius. 0.99

01:17:24.000 Really bad science fiction author. 1.00

01:17:26.000 Really bad.

01:17:26.000 But it talks a lot and says a lot to the power of persuasion.

01:17:30.000 You ever read his stuff?

01:17:31.000 No, I... You need to read his stuff.

01:17:33.000 Okay.

01:17:33.000 Is it like Harry Potter?

01:17:34.000 It's all first draft.

01:17:36.000 There's never a second draft.

01:17:37.000 It's the most nonsense. 0.98

01:17:39.000 And narcissistic. 0.99

01:17:40.000 But it's bonkers. 0.98

01:17:42.000 Like, the stuff, it's bonkers. 0.96

01:17:44.000 Like, some of the reading, like, he would write these stories and he would get paid like, you know, like a penny a word or some shit like that.

01:17:51.000 And he would write like a bunch of them for like Strange Times Magazine and stuff like way back in the day.

01:17:56.000 Like, this is what he did before he created Scientology.

01:17:58.000 He wrote these stories.

01:18:00.000 And, you know, like, what was the one, that John Travolta movie that they made of?

01:18:05.000 Battlefield Earth. 0.99

01:18:05.000 Damn, Jamie! 0.99

01:18:07.000 He's a wizard. 1.00

01:18:08.000 You got that mushroom coffee going?

01:18:11.000 Jesus!

01:18:11.000 He's a wizard.

01:18:12.000 Are you an AI? Did you ever see that?

01:18:13.000 Did you ever see Battlefield Earth?

01:18:15.000 Oh, with the eyebrows?

01:18:15.000 No.

01:18:17.000 Amazing.

01:18:17.000 Yes.

01:18:18.000 L. Ron Hubbard didn't write that.

01:18:19.000 Yes, he did. 0.99

01:18:20.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.98

01:18:22.000 And it was John Travolta's lifelong dream to turn that movie into one of the most preposterous movies of all time. 0.98

01:18:30.000 He turned that book into a masterpiece. 0.88

01:18:31.000 He looks like every white guy who wishes he was black. 0.98

01:18:35.000 Look at the dreads. 0.99

01:18:37.000 They're supposed to be giant, and the humans are these little tiny people.

01:18:41.000 Who is that?

01:18:42.000 Is that...

01:18:43.000 Forrest Whitaker.

01:18:44.000 Oh my god.

01:18:46.000 Yeah, so anyway, this movie is, uh, it's like Showgirls.

01:18:49.000 You ever watch Showgirls for fun?

01:18:51.000 A great movie.

01:18:52.000 Great movie.

01:18:52.000 For fun.

01:18:53.000 It's so bad, you're like, what in the fuck? 0.99

01:18:55.000 It's like, there's a lot of movies like that that are great because they're awful. 0.99

01:18:58.000 I need to rewatch this.

01:18:59.000 Yeah, he looks like a dude who hacky-sacks in a park during the day.

01:19:02.000 Please do this for me and for your fans.

01:19:04.000 For me and for your fans.

01:19:06.000 Spark up and do a fight companion for Battlefield Earth.

01:19:10.000 I will do that.

01:19:10.000 You watch Battlefield Earth for the first time and queue it up so that people can watch along.

01:19:15.000 They'll just see you, but they can watch Battlefield Earth on one screen and you on the other.

01:19:19.000 If they queue it up at the same time, they'll get you reacting to the movie.

01:19:23.000 That's such a good idea.

01:19:24.000 I'm going to do that for the next podcast episode.

01:19:26.000 That's a great idea.

01:19:27.000 I think you might have to have headphones on because you probably couldn't have the content of it streaming, right?

01:19:33.000 My mind is blown that he wrote this.

01:19:36.000 Let me check.

01:19:37.000 Oh, dude.

01:19:37.000 You gotta read some of the stuff he wrote.

01:19:39.000 You read some of the stuff he wrote and you go, well, this is terrible.

01:19:42.000 So is this like, is this, it's bad?

01:19:44.000 It's terrible.

01:19:45.000 It looks really good.

01:19:46.000 It reminds me of like...

01:19:47.000 It's so bad. 1.00

01:19:48.000 It's just like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:19:52.000 The fuck are you doing? 1.00

01:19:54.000 But people like that... 1.00

01:19:55.000 And I've said this about Hitler and people who are... 0.87

01:20:02.000 Just people who have these massive capabilities of persuading just a mass of people.

01:20:10.000 Like L. Ron Hubbard?

01:20:11.000 L. Ron Hubbard.

01:20:12.000 It's like a missed opportunity to do something good.

01:20:16.000 Well, have you ever read that book, Lawrence Wright's book?

01:20:20.000 Is that what it is?

01:20:22.000 Is it Lawrence Wright?

01:20:22.000 Clear?

01:20:24.000 Is that who wrote it?

01:20:25.000 I think it is.

01:20:26.000 The book on Scientology is amazing. 0.99

01:20:29.000 I mean, fucking amazing. 0.99

01:20:31.000 Was it an HBO series he did on it? 0.99

01:20:36.000 They did some...

01:20:37.000 Anyway.

01:20:38.000 It's a book about...

01:20:40.000 It depicts books about how he created it.

01:20:43.000 How L. Ron Hubbard created the...

01:20:44.000 Alex Gibney.

01:20:45.000 Alex Gibney.

01:20:46.000 Director and screenplay.

01:20:48.000 Okay, that's that.

01:20:49.000 But there was a book written too.

01:20:52.000 Yeah, there was a book written too.

01:20:54.000 Going Clear?

01:20:55.000 That's what this is called.

01:20:55.000 Maybe it's Going Clear.

01:20:56.000 That's called Going Clear.

01:20:58.000 I wonder, like, you know in marketing how there's like a tipping point to like where things become like...

01:21:02.000 They're both titled the same thing.

01:21:04.000 So go ahead, Claire Lawrence Wright, too.

01:21:05.000 Sorry.

01:21:05.000 Okay.

01:21:05.000 So I think the other one is that Alex Gibney directed the...

01:21:09.000 Is that what it is?

01:21:10.000 They're both...

01:21:11.000 Must be.

01:21:11.000 Anyway.

01:21:12.000 The story behind it is he was self-helping himself.

01:21:17.000 So he was psychologically kind of fucked up, and he was sort of self-diagnosing and self-medicating, giving him self-therapy by taking a lot of these principles of different self-help books and different psychology books that he had read. 0.98

01:21:30.000 And then he started applying that, and then he started putting that together with some, like, fucking... 0.99

01:21:35.000 UFOs? 0.99

01:21:36.000 UFOs and Thetans...

01:21:38.000 So, like, Tony Robbins on crack?

01:21:41.000 I forget what the director's name, and they're going clear on HBO. It's fucking amazing. 0.99

01:21:45.000 And one of them, there's this guy who's a big-time Hollywood guy who is in Scientology. 0.98

01:21:50.000 I forget what he did.

01:21:51.000 He's a director, right?

01:21:51.000 Paul Haggis?

01:21:52.000 Yes, that guy.

01:21:53.000 And Paul, like, he's a really, really respected Hollywood guy, right?

01:21:58.000 Makes movies.

01:21:59.000 And he's deep into this thing, right?

01:22:01.000 Probably giving him millions of dollars or something like this.

01:22:03.000 And then finally he gets to read these handwritten notes that he's been waiting for.

01:22:08.000 You're on to the next level.

01:22:10.000 And he's like, am I being trolled?

01:22:12.000 He thinks it's almost like a test.

01:22:14.000 The next level?

01:22:15.000 Like it's Super Mario Brothers?

01:22:17.000 Exactly like Super Mario Brothers.

01:22:19.000 But that's kind of smart.

01:22:20.000 That's smart marketing. 0.58

01:22:21.000 Well, it is.

01:22:23.000 A false sense of achievement, like you've achieved something different.

01:22:25.000 And that's what I was saying.

01:22:26.000 Do you think how in marketing there's a tipping point to when things become viral and more popular?

01:22:31.000 Do you think there's a tipping point to Scientology?

01:22:35.000 Just the floodgates opened and then everybody was sort of following?

01:22:38.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:22:39.000 If you follow a lot of the tenets of things like Dianetics, all these self-help tenets, if you follow the good stuff, You can actually do better.

01:22:48.000 And you'll do better because you're also focusing on the fact that you're following this path that's going to do better.

01:22:54.000 So your intention, your focus during your day is of improving and doing better.

01:23:00.000 And applying all of that.

01:23:01.000 So a lot of people, whether they join this or whether they take something less venine like Tony Robbins stuff, which is very motivational but without the cult, Mostly.

01:23:10.000 I mean, he's not your guru.

01:23:12.000 He seems really good for a guy that's experienced what he's experienced, right?

01:23:18.000 Yes.

01:23:18.000 To be that, doing that kind of stuff for this long.

01:23:21.000 I'm actually reading Awake the Beast Within. 0.75

01:23:24.000 I read Unlimited Power like in 1989 or some shit. 0.95

01:23:28.000 It was great. 0.85

01:23:29.000 There's a lot of great stuff in it.

01:23:29.000 Yeah, it's a great book.

01:23:29.000 It's great.

01:23:30.000 But those people that, if you're one of those people that's doing something like that, Like the giant, not the beast.

01:23:38.000 Giant.

01:23:38.000 Yeah.

01:23:39.000 Who was the other example that I used?

01:23:41.000 The other motivational dude.

01:23:47.000 Jamie.

01:23:48.000 Help! 0.98

01:23:50.000 How did we both forget?

01:23:52.000 I said Tony Robbins and who else?

01:23:56.000 Anyway, point is, people want something that guides them in a positive direction.

01:24:04.000 If they think it's going to be Tony Robbins or if they think it's going to be Scientology, they're trying to do better, right?

01:24:10.000 So if you say, well, Scientology really helped my life.

01:24:13.000 It did.

01:24:13.000 But why did it help your life?

01:24:15.000 It helped your life because you decided to focus on doing better in your life, and you used the tenets of Scientology, which some of them are really good.

01:24:23.000 I read Dianetics, or at least I read a couple of chapters.

01:24:26.000 It's like religion. 0.67

01:24:27.000 There are aspects of it that you can apply to your life and benefit from it.

01:24:30.000 But then there's the tribal side that gets crazy.

01:24:34.000 With everything, though, look how focused Tom Cruise is.

01:24:37.000 He is very focused.

01:24:38.000 Where is he?

01:24:39.000 Does anybody know?

01:24:39.000 He's in a bunker right now.

01:24:40.000 He's in outer space.

01:24:41.000 Rehabbing his ankle.

01:24:42.000 He broke in half doing Mission Impossible. 1.00

01:24:44.000 Did you see that shit? 1.00

01:24:46.000 Was that when he jumped on the wall? 1.00

01:24:48.000 Dude, he's like...

01:24:49.000 How old is he?

01:24:51.000 172. He's at least 56 years old.

01:24:54.000 He's 5,000 years old.

01:24:54.000 He's from another galaxy.

01:24:55.000 57?

01:24:56.000 Okay.

01:24:56.000 Do you think you could take him down?

01:24:58.000 57 years old.

01:24:59.000 57 years old. 1.00

01:25:00.000 He jumps from one building all the way to the other with his fucking rope attached to him and mishits it and slams his ankle into the side of the building. 0.99

01:25:10.000 You see his foot compresses. 1.00

01:25:11.000 His ankle's fucksville. 0.95

01:25:12.000 Why do they allow... 0.98

01:25:14.000 Exactly!

01:25:15.000 What clause in the movie contract?

01:25:17.000 Are they like, yeah, we're going to have Tom... 0.99

01:25:19.000 Or do you think he was just like, fuck it, I'm going to do it? 1.00

01:25:21.000 He's going to do it and you could eat shit all day because he's fucking Tom Cruise. 1.00

01:25:25.000 Sit down! 1.00

01:25:27.000 You can't handle the truth!

01:25:28.000 He learned all that helicopter piloting for the movie too.

01:25:31.000 He did it?

01:25:32.000 He flew?

01:25:34.000 That's what they said and showed. 0.93

01:25:35.000 He's a legit maniac. 0.99

01:25:37.000 Love him or hate him, that guy is a legit maniac. 0.69

01:25:40.000 A badass actor. 1.00

01:25:42.000 If you don't think he is, watch Interview with the Vampire and shut the fuck up. 0.99

01:25:46.000 He was amazing in that movie. 0.99

01:25:46.000 Yeah, that's a good one. 0.99

01:25:48.000 Also legend, for the ladies who are listening from the 1980s.

01:25:50.000 Ladies from the 80s, the legend.

01:25:52.000 Tom Cruise was in The Legend.

01:25:54.000 You remember that movie?

01:25:55.000 I do remember. 0.97

01:25:56.000 You're a nerd, that's right. 0.81

01:25:57.000 You'd watch that type of movie. 0.73

01:25:58.000 I remember that movie.

01:25:58.000 That was a dope movie.

01:25:59.000 It was. 1.00

01:25:59.000 Tim Curry is a devil. 1.00

01:26:00.000 So this is him really hanging on. 0.99

01:26:02.000 No!

01:26:02.000 Yes!

01:26:03.000 No, it is.

01:26:04.000 Why does he look like Donald Trump's son?

01:26:05.000 No, this is him really hanging on right now.

01:26:08.000 Oh! 0.60

01:26:09.000 No, no, no, I have chills.

01:26:11.000 Yes.

01:26:11.000 Oh god, are you for real?

01:26:13.000 Yes.

01:26:13.000 I have such a hype...

01:26:15.000 Do you understand how hard that is to do?

01:26:18.000 No, no, because I wouldn't do it. 1.00

01:26:20.000 This crazy fuck's holding onto a plane! 1.00

01:26:23.000 Now, do you attribute that to Scientology? 1.00

01:26:25.000 Yes, it has to be.

01:26:26.000 It's the only other way he could have done it.

01:26:29.000 So, also, he's flying this helicopter for real, so he's doing this crazy helicopter stunt for real.

01:26:35.000 By himself. 1.00

01:26:36.000 By himself, this fucking maniac. 1.00

01:26:38.000 He also drives race cars! 1.00

01:26:41.000 You remember when I said about playing pool? 1.00

01:26:43.000 You watch someone play pool in a movie and they look like dark shit? 1.00

01:26:45.000 He looked good in the color of money. 0.99

01:26:47.000 Do you think there's a level of sociopathy that's playing there?

01:26:51.000 Why do you have to find negative?

01:26:53.000 Why can't you just look at the positive?

01:26:54.000 No, it was a question.

01:26:54.000 I didn't say.

01:26:55.000 I offered a question.

01:26:56.000 He's out there making it happen, Jessie Mae.

01:26:58.000 Why you gotta look at the dark side?

01:26:59.000 Is this your man?

01:27:01.000 Why is the glass half empty, Jessie Mae? 0.99

01:27:03.000 Listen, Adam, look at these fucking crashes that he has riding his motorcycle. 1.00

01:27:07.000 You just gotta think, out of all the people that have done all the action movies, who is wild in this motherfucker? 0.99

01:27:15.000 He's the Michael Jordan of action movies. 1.00

01:27:17.000 Who's wilder than this motherfucker? 0.99

01:27:19.000 Legitimately. 1.00

01:27:20.000 Vin Diesel.

01:27:21.000 I just threw a name out there.

01:27:23.000 I threw a name.

01:27:24.000 Sounds like he should be with that name.

01:27:26.000 Vin Diesel?

01:27:27.000 Do you know how cocky you have to be to make up that name?

01:27:29.000 Vin Diesel.

01:27:30.000 It's a lot.

01:27:32.000 It's a name that comes with a lot of attitude.

01:27:34.000 Do you think Tom Cruise is a daredevil?

01:27:38.000 He's a savage.

01:27:39.000 Do you think he thinks he's immortal because of Scientology? 0.92

01:27:45.000 I think he thinks he gets his own planet when he dies, or is that a Mormon? 0.98

01:27:47.000 That's a Mormon, right? 0.99

01:27:49.000 Mormons get their own planet. 1.00

01:27:50.000 They do?

01:27:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:51.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:27:52.000 Dude, there's a fucking album from Johnny and Marie, or the Osmond Brothers. 1.00

01:27:56.000 It's from the Osmond Brothers. 0.99

01:27:59.000 And inside the album, when you open it up, it's from back in the Diz A. The album, the name of the album is the name of this thing that happens when you get your own planet, when you die.

01:28:09.000 And then there's all these different people, they all have their own planet inside the album.

01:28:13.000 Okay, we need to know that album title.

01:28:15.000 Here it is, here it is.

01:28:17.000 The Plan.

01:28:18.000 Okay, that looks like...

01:28:20.000 Is that it?

01:28:20.000 A cult.

01:28:21.000 Which one is it?

01:28:22.000 I think it's that one.

01:28:23.000 I think it's the one with the planet on it.

01:28:25.000 Look at the pink people. 1.00

01:28:26.000 There's one that you open it up, and then the inside of it, it's got all the different...

01:28:31.000 Do I remember?

01:28:32.000 Am I remembering this wrong?

01:28:33.000 I know we did.

01:28:35.000 Joe Rogan, you're a treasure chest of information. 1.00

01:28:37.000 No, useless shit. 1.00

01:28:38.000 I told you, my chimp brain is overused. 1.00

01:28:41.000 It's taxed. 0.77

01:28:42.000 The information just stumbling out of it, out of nowhere.

01:28:45.000 It makes for perfect podcast fodder, though.

01:28:47.000 Oh, you reminded me, remember when I said it?

01:28:48.000 I'm mentally ill, and it works well in this genre. 0.99

01:28:50.000 I wanted to tell you something. 0.94

01:28:52.000 Speaking of chimps, I was reading this thing about sperm competition in correlation with sack size. 0.99

01:28:59.000 The size of the balls. 0.99

01:28:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:00.000 And as I was reading that, Joey Diaz's video.

01:29:06.000 Was on Twitch.

01:29:07.000 Was on Twitter.

01:29:10.000 And so he calls me last night and he's like, what are you doing, beautiful?

01:29:15.000 Like, oh, I'm just hanging out.

01:29:16.000 What are you doing?

01:29:17.000 He's like, oh, I'm hanging out with the missus and the kid.

01:29:20.000 And I was like, oh, it sounds nice.

01:29:21.000 And he goes, did you check out those nuts?

01:29:31.000 Oh, my God.

01:29:32.000 Oh, my God.

01:29:33.000 I was like, yes, I did, Joe.

01:29:35.000 They're not nuts. 1.00

01:29:37.000 They are fucking planetary systems. 1.00

01:29:39.000 It's a universe. 1.00

01:29:41.000 I've never seen nuts like that in my life.

01:29:43.000 What happened with the violation?

01:29:44.000 Didn't they get a legitimate violation from that?

01:29:46.000 I hope so.

01:29:47.000 He just...

01:29:48.000 Joey's so necessary.

01:29:49.000 Oh, look at them!

01:29:51.000 It looks like a Louis Vuitton bag.

01:29:53.000 Look how he jiggles them for you, too.

01:29:55.000 He's so proud.

01:29:56.000 He's like a kid. 1.00

01:29:56.000 He's like a fucking four-year-old. 1.00

01:29:58.000 I love him so much. 1.00

01:29:59.000 Look at...

01:30:00.000 He called me to make sure I saw it. 0.99

01:30:02.000 The fact that he thought he could do that on a fucking live stream for the Comedy Store. 0.96

01:30:08.000 People don't realize how necessary of a person Joey Diaz is. 0.99

01:30:12.000 Somebody who pushes the ticket like this, who literally moves the needle with his nutsack.

01:30:17.000 He's such a...

01:30:18.000 He's a national treasure.

01:30:20.000 He really is.

01:30:21.000 I love him so much.

01:30:22.000 No, he really is.

01:30:23.000 He's a one-of-a-kind.

01:30:24.000 But that's a great example. 0.99

01:30:26.000 He experienced the fucking... 1.00

01:30:30.000 The craziest. 1.00

01:30:31.000 The craziest life.

01:30:32.000 One of the craziest lives of anybody that's out of any of my friends.

01:30:35.000 And look what happens on the other end because of that.

01:30:38.000 And he's so gracious and he's so good to his friends and he has such a big heart on the other side of all of that.

01:30:46.000 It's so weird how much of who you are is based on these sort of random circumstances and then how you come out of them.

01:30:55.000 Well, I think a lot of it has to do with The absence and relationship to love and safety throughout your lifetime.

01:31:06.000 And what your relationship to love is.

01:31:08.000 Because when you're born as a creature, your job is to get love.

01:31:13.000 And then as you get a little older, you learn how to love.

01:31:17.000 And then as an adult, you learn how to give love.

01:31:19.000 And if that process is interrupted along the way, it's going to affect how you express that outwardly to people in your life.

01:31:26.000 And for someone like Joey Diaz, who...

01:31:28.000 As most people know, experienced almost every kind of trauma and crazy life experience you can have in a single lifetime.

01:31:36.000 For him to come out on the other side, who he is, it's a testament to, I don't know, a greater thing going on, like a bigger picture.

01:31:46.000 He consciously made a decision to be a different person.

01:31:51.000 Because I remember, I heard you talking about how you'd bring him on the road, and it wasn't always, you know, sometimes it was difficult.

01:31:57.000 He just had a real bad drug problem back then.

01:32:00.000 You know, he's talked about it pretty openly.

01:32:01.000 He just liked to do coke, and sometimes he showed up and sometimes he didn't.

01:32:06.000 And my take on it was, I did want to not work with Joey.

01:32:09.000 Like, I love Joey.

01:32:10.000 Did you love him immediately when you met him?

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 Yeah, I don't think there was more than a couple weeks after Joey and I met that we were like best friends.

01:32:18.000 That's adorable.

01:32:19.000 But I grew up around wild people.

01:32:23.000 He's a wild person.

01:32:25.000 You seem like you're good with chaos.

01:32:27.000 I love it.

01:32:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:28.000 But people like him was like, ah.

01:32:28.000 Yeah.

01:32:30.000 Because when I was growing up, I always felt...

01:32:33.000 I always felt out of place.

01:32:34.000 I didn't live with my real dad.

01:32:36.000 I lived with my stepdad.

01:32:37.000 We traveled around a lot, so a lot of times I was the new kid.

01:32:42.000 And I just didn't feel like I fit in with...

01:32:46.000 I looked at other people's lives.

01:32:48.000 The mom and dad were together, and the kids never got in trouble, and everyone was doing well in school.

01:32:53.000 I looked at them almost like they were aliens.

01:32:55.000 I was scared of them.

01:32:57.000 And I gravitated towards people that were like, you know, I haven't seen my dad since I was three.

01:33:02.000 My mom's been selling heroin. 1.00

01:33:03.000 They're like, all right, we're friends.

01:33:05.000 And then through all my choices, just sort of coincidentally, whether it's through martial arts and then through comedy, it sort of reinforced that.

01:33:15.000 It wasn't my thought.

01:33:17.000 When I was 17 years old, thinking I didn't fit in anywhere, it wasn't my thought.

01:33:22.000 I know what I'll do.

01:33:23.000 I'll go seek out stand-up comedians and fighters, and they'll understand me.

01:33:27.000 Yeah, people who sort of represent my own feelings. 0.99

01:33:30.000 People who are also fucked up. 0.98

01:33:31.000 People who also came from a less... 0.99

01:33:38.000 Just not a sub-optimal childhood, let's say it, because I wouldn't have a bad childhood.

01:33:43.000 There's many people that had way worse childhoods than me.

01:33:45.000 It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good.

01:33:47.000 So it's like going over it and trying to think...

01:33:53.000 How many people are living way worse childhoods?

01:33:58.000 Way worse.

01:33:59.000 And then they have to correct as they're becoming an adult while they're working and they're in relationships.

01:34:05.000 To have self-awareness to know what it is. 0.92

01:34:06.000 And they're fucking busy with a million different things and they're not even concentrating on themselves. 0.68

01:34:10.000 Which is the thing you have to do. 0.88

01:34:12.000 If you have to get good at anything, right?

01:34:14.000 If you want to get good at playing basketball, you've got to concentrate on playing basketball.

01:34:18.000 You have to be focused.

01:34:19.000 Ask Jamie.

01:34:19.000 He's actually a basketball wizard.

01:34:21.000 Are those lies, Jamie?

01:34:23.000 You should see some three points.

01:34:23.000 You got a nice Jimmy Jimmy?

01:34:24.000 His three points are out of control.

01:34:25.000 But you have to concentrate on that.

01:34:27.000 How many times do people concentrate on being a better person?

01:34:32.000 Concentrate on who you are.

01:34:33.000 Concentrate on why you react to things the way you do, or whether or not you're pursuing your passions with 100% of your enthusiasm, or whether or not you could be more successful if you got up earlier and got more done and just had a better attitude about things.

01:34:47.000 Just more focused.

01:34:48.000 It's hard.

01:34:49.000 It's hard.

01:34:50.000 The ego gets in the way of the self.

01:34:50.000 It's hard.

01:34:52.000 Yep.

01:34:53.000 And it's those, you know, that self-work, the self-respect and self-care that you have to embark on.

01:34:59.000 But first you have self-awareness and to discover that requires a whole other situation and ability to access your humility.

01:35:09.000 You have to be very, very brave.

01:35:09.000 You got to be brave.

01:35:12.000 Not like brave like you're about to go stab a bear.

01:35:14.000 To face yourself!

01:35:17.000 There's a different kind of bravery.

01:35:19.000 There's some bravery, and this is the thing with men, right?

01:35:22.000 The big thing with men is men tend to be more inclined To place value on being brave in physical situations.

01:35:31.000 Brave where you save somebody, brave where you risked your life, brave where you did something that was a dangerous thing for the good of all or for the good of your loved ones.

01:35:42.000 But then the other kind of bravery, the kind of emotional bravery, where you look at yourself like accurately.

01:35:48.000 Mentors, they tend to shy away from that or to frown on that even.

01:35:53.000 I agree with that.

01:35:54.000 But it takes a kind of bravery to look at yourself accurately, too.

01:35:58.000 It's a different kind of bravery, but it's still, it's a daunting thing to sort of dissolve your pre-existing notions of who you are and look at yourself with fresh lenses.

01:36:09.000 Have your daughters helped you access that vulnerability about yourself?

01:36:12.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:36:14.000 Anytime you're raising little people and you realize how dangerous the world is for little people, and then these little people, you love them as much as any person you've ever loved times 10 in your whole life.

01:36:26.000 It's impossible to describe.

01:36:27.000 Every parent will tell you.

01:36:28.000 It doesn't even make sense.

01:36:29.000 When you see them, you just get like a love drug just floods through you.

01:36:33.000 It's different.

01:36:35.000 It's different.

01:36:36.000 And it's so important, and as a girl who was a daughter of a girl dad, it's so important for you...

01:36:42.000 Wait a minute, you're a what?

01:36:43.000 You're the daughter of a girl dad? 0.96

01:36:45.000 A daughter of a dad who had a girl.

01:36:47.000 Okay.

01:36:47.000 And it makes me emotional, but I had a really, really great dad.

01:36:53.000 Dude, do not cry. 0.98

01:36:54.000 I will fucking come over there right now and violate social distancing rules. 1.00

01:36:58.000 You cried on this podcast once! 0.99

01:36:59.000 I've cried a couple times, I'm just kidding.

01:37:01.000 But for you to love your daughters... 1.00

01:37:05.000 That love will carry them through all sorts of shit that they're going to experience. 1.00

01:37:10.000 That you cannot avoid. 0.99

01:37:12.000 Where you're not going to be able to be there and protect them the way you want to as a dad.

01:37:16.000 So you just loving them gives them all the strength they need for their entire life.

01:37:20.000 I'm sure you know that, but I just want to express it to you because I am that girl too.

01:37:25.000 My father loved me so, so much.

01:37:27.000 So it's such a responsibility because in order to...

01:37:31.000 Express that love as a man.

01:37:33.000 You have to have a humility about yourself and you have to be real about your vulnerabilities.

01:37:38.000 So it's an achievement as a guy, but also just as a man in society to do what you're doing.

01:37:45.000 So you're creating healthy girls, and we need more healthy girls in the world, so thank you.

01:37:50.000 Well, you're welcome.

01:37:52.000 I'm doing my best.

01:37:53.000 I'm doing my best to be a good dad.

01:37:55.000 But I think we all need to realize, and this is one of the things that I really realized when I started raising kids.

01:38:02.000 As time went on, I recognized that I don't look at people the same way anymore.

01:38:06.000 I look at them as babies that became people.

01:38:10.000 Where I used to always, if I met you, like, oh, here's Jessie Mae in 2020, and this is how she's always been.

01:38:16.000 That's just how I would think.

01:38:17.000 Oh, there's Jessie Mae.

01:38:18.000 I know what you look like.

01:38:18.000 Hi, Jessie.

01:38:19.000 I see you all the time.

01:38:20.000 Hey, Jessie Mae. 0.99

01:38:21.000 But I would never think, oh, that was like a little two-year-old.

01:38:25.000 Like this little two-year-old who was walking funny and dancing when music was coming on.

01:38:25.000 Yeah.

01:38:30.000 Pooping her pants.

01:38:30.000 Yeah.

01:38:31.000 Like, oh, and then life just sort of like puts you through the wringer and does this good and that bad and this better and that worse.

01:38:39.000 And then boom, here you are in 2020. And it made me think of the whole path of human beings rather than just the static thing that you see in front of you right now.

01:38:48.000 That's like enlightenment.

01:38:49.000 That's a form of enlightenment.

01:38:51.000 You're an evolved human to think that about people.

01:38:55.000 Well, it's not.

01:38:56.000 It's just seeing it in real time.

01:38:58.000 Like watching my kids grow up and watching them become these little intelligent things that I can have conversations with.

01:39:04.000 Little personalities forming.

01:39:06.000 When you have a little person and all of a sudden that person's a big person sitting across you and you're having a conversation with them, it's very surreal.

01:39:15.000 Just having full-on conversations with this person that didn't even exist.

01:39:19.000 Yeah, that you saw grow and get bigger.

01:39:22.000 How has the quarantine changed or evolved your relationship with them?

01:39:26.000 Has it brought up any new experiences?

01:39:29.000 With my family and I think with all my friends, it's made everybody a little more appreciative.

01:39:35.000 Made everybody appreciative of each other.

01:39:37.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 Made everybody realize, like, hey, this really can happen, okay?

01:39:42.000 Now that we know that, everything really can shut down.

01:39:45.000 We've kind of all known this before.

01:39:46.000 It's sort of like what we were talking about earlier.

01:39:48.000 Like, we have this ability to block out all the stuff we're doing that doesn't affect us right now.

01:39:54.000 And I think... 0.99

01:39:55.000 Something like this quarantine, something like this pandemic makes you realize, like, holy shit. 0.99

01:40:01.000 We're vulnerable. 0.98

01:40:02.000 We're really vulnerable.

01:40:03.000 And this is what's important.

01:40:04.000 What's important is staying alive.

01:40:06.000 And we were all on momentum.

01:40:07.000 We were all on momentum, just running around.

01:40:09.000 And not even considering where we're getting stuff.

01:40:12.000 You know what a Buffalo Drive is?

01:40:14.000 No.

01:40:14.000 Migrating them?

01:40:17.000 It's called a buffalo jump, actually.

01:40:19.000 Native Americans used to chase these buffalo off the side of a cliff. 0.97

01:40:22.000 And so the buffalo would be running, and the ones in the front would go, oh, fuck, there's a cliff. 0.96

01:40:26.000 And they go to turn around, and there's a thousand buffalo behind you running full clip. 0.99

01:40:30.000 You're going over the edge.

01:40:31.000 So they would all go over the edge.

01:40:33.000 And then the Native Americans would come around the front.

01:40:35.000 And pick up the buffalo and take them. 0.80

01:40:38.000 Well, that's what we're like.

01:40:40.000 We're like, we're on this crazy momentum. 0.97

01:40:42.000 We're just getting up and just working all day and doing this and all this momentum and you're fucking upset and your blood pressure's up. 0.94

01:40:50.000 And then, boom! 0.87

01:40:51.000 Something like this happens.

01:40:52.000 And yeah, it's terrible.

01:40:54.000 Yeah, I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

01:40:55.000 But there's an opportunity in this moment To reset your perspective. 0.99

01:41:00.000 And slow the fuck down. 1.00

01:41:02.000 Get off the hamster wheel. 1.00

01:41:03.000 Get off the hamster wheel and go, why am I living like this?

01:41:06.000 And what am I doing to contribute how I'm living?

01:41:09.000 How are my behaviors, choices, and decisions contributing to the life that I have?

01:41:14.000 And I think, I don't know about you, but for me, I've been really asking myself, is the life I'm living the one that I want to live?

01:41:20.000 And how can I improve it?

01:41:21.000 Is the travel thing the thing that bugs you the most?

01:41:23.000 Yeah, it's so exhausting.

01:41:25.000 And it's exhausting on a cellular level.

01:41:27.000 And it's stressful.

01:41:29.000 It ages you.

01:41:31.000 It really does.

01:41:32.000 It really does beat you up when you fly every week.

01:41:34.000 It beats you up when you fly every week.

01:41:36.000 And also, I'm a big energy person.

01:41:38.000 And I like to conserve my energy.

01:41:40.000 And I don't like to give energy to people who are emotional vampires.

01:41:43.000 And I'm very specific about where I put it. 0.98

01:41:46.000 But traveling doesn't give a fuck about that. 0.89

01:41:49.000 It'll pull from that energy source as much as it wants to. 0.87

01:41:53.000 Like you, I love comedy and I love to perform and give my all on stage.

01:41:57.000 If I'm tired from a flight, sometimes those shows are great. 0.99

01:42:00.000 I don't know if you've had those ones where you haven't slept at all and you go on stage and you're just like, fuck it. 0.99

01:42:04.000 But for the most part, I like to be rested. 0.99

01:42:06.000 Yeah, you want to be rested.

01:42:08.000 You want to be where your brain's firing.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, where you're not even thinking, when you're in that sweet zone.

01:42:14.000 It's almost like a natural reaction to the moment. 0.99

01:42:19.000 Isn't it weird how dumb you can get sometimes? 1.00

01:42:23.000 Me, personally? 1.00

01:42:24.000 No, me.

01:42:25.000 Everybody.

01:42:26.000 We all have to admit that there's a range that we operate in.

01:42:26.000 All of us.

01:42:30.000 We're on fire.

01:42:33.000 Brains firing.

01:42:34.000 Everything makes sense.

01:42:35.000 You have a great conversation.

01:42:35.000 Everything's going good.

01:42:36.000 You understand what people are saying.

01:42:38.000 You're stimulated.

01:42:39.000 And where's my keys?

01:42:42.000 Who am I? What was that guy's name we were saying?

01:42:45.000 What the fuck did I just say? 0.99

01:42:47.000 How do words work? 1.00

01:42:48.000 Sometimes my brain is like...

01:42:48.000 Yeah.

01:42:52.000 And sometimes it's like...

01:42:54.000 Sometimes it's like a race car. 0.60

01:42:57.000 And sometimes it's like a car with some shitty spark plugs that can barely make it out of the driveway.

01:43:02.000 Have you found aspects of your life that contribute to you feeling like you're...

01:43:06.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:43:07.000 What do you attribute it to?

01:43:08.000 Exhaustion's a big one.

01:43:09.000 Exhaustion is a big one.

01:43:11.000 I was doing podcasts earlier in the day, but I would do them straight from working out.

01:43:17.000 It's just too hard.

01:43:19.000 Especially running hills.

01:43:22.000 Yeah, you're out there with Marshall!

01:43:23.000 Yeah, or yoga. 1.00

01:43:24.000 Yoga can kick your ass too before a podcast. 0.99

01:43:27.000 I had to give myself an extra hour after the class before I tried to do a podcast. 0.99

01:43:31.000 What's your routine after you work out hard?

01:43:33.000 Like what do you do right after you work out?

01:43:35.000 I always replenish.

01:43:37.000 With food?

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:39.000 Eat some food.

01:43:40.000 Your body wants some protein.

01:43:44.000 If you're eating carbs, your body wants some glucose.

01:43:47.000 And your body definitely wants some electrolytes.

01:43:49.000 I always take electrolytes.

01:43:52.000 Are you a person who naps?

01:43:53.000 No.

01:43:54.000 I can't imagine you napping.

01:43:55.000 It's like a napping bear.

01:43:56.000 I don't have that kind of time.

01:43:58.000 I'm not interested.

01:43:59.000 I just sleep at night.

01:44:00.000 I sleep good.

01:44:02.000 I'm a solid seven, eight hours sleeper every night.

01:44:04.000 I don't need a nap.

01:44:05.000 What's the first thing you do in the morning?

01:44:07.000 Do you have like a regular morning routine?

01:44:09.000 Are you the FBI? Yeah, I've got people recording this.

01:44:12.000 I'm just making sure we can find out where you are.

01:44:13.000 I usually do some kind of workout. 0.99

01:44:15.000 Either I'll do something with the dog, we'll do the hills, or I'll work out here, kick the bag, that kind of shit. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Or I'll lift weights. 1.00

01:44:25.000 Depending on what day it is, I just decide, like, today I'm going to do this, tomorrow.

01:44:29.000 I just have a series of workouts, too, that I've been doing forever that I can sort of plug in.

01:44:34.000 I have a whiteboard. 0.98

01:44:35.000 I write shit down on the whiteboard. 0.99

01:44:36.000 And you've been consistent through quarantine as well? 0.99

01:44:37.000 You've been taking it easy on exercising?

01:44:39.000 You've been doing that every day?

01:44:40.000 No, I've been ramping it up because I don't want to be edgy.

01:44:44.000 I want to be relaxed.

01:44:46.000 And you also don't want to be like the people from WALL-E. What?

01:44:49.000 What's that? 0.86

01:44:50.000 Fat people. 0.74

01:44:51.000 Oh. 0.98

01:44:51.000 People just get lazy. 0.98

01:44:53.000 Everything's done for them.

01:44:54.000 There's no excuses.

01:44:54.000 If you're home all day, there's no excuse to go to the gym for one hour.

01:44:58.000 And by the way, you don't even need a gym.

01:44:59.000 You don't.

01:45:00.000 You need like a kettlebell.

01:45:01.000 You don't even need that. 1.00

01:45:02.000 You can do bodyweight shit. 0.99

01:45:04.000 There's a shit ton of things you could burn yourself out on just with bodyweights. 0.99

01:45:08.000 Especially if you have a chin-up bar.

01:45:10.000 Bodyweights and a chin-up bar.

01:45:11.000 I have one of those.

01:45:11.000 Dude.

01:45:11.000 I can do four.

01:45:12.000 But do you have the one that go...

01:45:13.000 Can you really?

01:45:14.000 Yes.

01:45:14.000 That's very good.

01:45:15.000 Is it?

01:45:15.000 Yes, it's very good.

01:45:16.000 I feel good.

01:45:17.000 I thought it was terrible. 1.00

01:45:18.000 I thought you were going to be like, you fucking weak bitch. 1.00

01:45:20.000 No, that's very good. 1.00

01:45:22.000 Damn. 1.00

01:45:23.000 Why is it when people put words in your mouth, it's always shit you would never say? 1.00

01:45:27.000 You say bitch a lot, but not in like a derogatory... 1.00

01:45:29.000 But it's a friendly bitch. 1.00

01:45:30.000 I say bitch too. 1.00

01:45:30.000 Is it the kind that hang over the door, or is it the one that's screwed into the... 1.00

01:45:33.000 It's screwed into the wall.

01:45:34.000 Okay, good.

01:45:34.000 Is that good?

01:45:35.000 Yes, better.

01:45:36.000 The ones that hang over the door freak me out.

01:45:38.000 Yeah, well, I've seen videos.

01:45:39.000 Because there's plenty of videos. 0.97

01:45:42.000 And the bitches who don't, look, we have to, like, before you decide you're an Instagram fitness instructor, let's read the instructions of how to put those bands in your door. 1.00

01:45:52.000 Because there's so many people out there that are putting them on the door and slapping themselves in the back. 0.98

01:45:56.000 I'm noticing a lot of, not all, not all you ladies, not all, but a lot of these ladies that have fitness accounts also have, like, an OnlyFans account. 0.94

01:46:06.000 Oh yeah, they're showing titties and clitty cats. 1.00

01:46:08.000 They're showing clitty cats. 0.98

01:46:10.000 They're getting paid.

01:46:11.000 They're showing the whole basket.

01:46:13.000 They're showing the bunghole.

01:46:14.000 They're showing the whole thing.

01:46:15.000 And you know what?

01:46:16.000 In today's economic climate, it might be right behind them. 0.97

01:46:22.000 I'll dress my butthole up for you. 1.00

01:46:24.000 Will you paint it out like a clown? 1.00

01:46:25.000 I'll bedazzle it. 0.96

01:46:26.000 You know what I'll do? 0.93

01:46:27.000 I'll get a really good artist to paint my butthole like a famous person and then you have to guess who it is. 0.93

01:46:33.000 Oh, that's a good idea. 0.99

01:46:34.000 Have you seen that one lady, we've talked about it before on the podcast, that makes that visual art with painting, paints eyeballs and shit on people's faces? 1.00

01:46:43.000 Whoa. 0.99

01:46:43.000 Remember? 0.99

01:46:44.000 That one in particular, yeah, but there's a lot of girls now that do body paint stuff and do... 1.00

01:46:48.000 A bunch of crazy stuff, probably 3D stuff, yeah.

01:46:50.000 Is that what you're looking at, Jamie?

01:46:51.000 People are getting really artistic with face and body paint.

01:46:55.000 That's interesting.

01:46:56.000 Weird stuff. 0.99

01:46:56.000 So yeah, you could do that to your butthole, though. 0.99

01:46:58.000 Yeah, I think I might... 0.99

01:46:59.000 Same thing.

01:47:00.000 I might do that. 0.99

01:47:00.000 I did make a butthole candle that smells like my butthole. 0.99

01:47:03.000 I bet you didn't. 0.99

01:47:04.000 I did.

01:47:05.000 How much you wanna bet?

01:47:06.000 I bet you're wrong.

01:47:06.000 How much you wanna bet?

01:47:07.000 I bet you're wrong. 1.00

01:47:08.000 I bet it doesn't smell like your butthole. 1.00

01:47:10.000 Well, we can't. 0.99

01:47:11.000 How would we even cash in on that?

01:47:13.000 We'd have to do a sniff test.

01:47:15.000 I'll blindfold myself so I can't see anything.

01:47:18.000 Just back it up.

01:47:19.000 Oh, okay.

01:47:20.000 We need to do a companion episode to that.

01:47:22.000 I'll blindfold myself, put my hands behind my back.

01:47:25.000 I can't move.

01:47:26.000 And then you just back it up there and I'll take a sniff.

01:47:30.000 What do you think it smells like? 1.00

01:47:32.000 Like an asshole. 1.00

01:47:34.000 You're wrong. 1.00

01:47:35.000 What do you think it smells like?

01:47:36.000 You're wrong.

01:47:37.000 A meadow?

01:47:38.000 What is it, like an elk basin?

01:47:40.000 It smells like a field.

01:47:41.000 It's a wallow.

01:47:42.000 It smells like vanilla and leather.

01:47:44.000 Aged leather.

01:47:45.000 What's her name?

01:47:46.000 Gwyneth Paltrow's candle? 1.00

01:47:47.000 Smells like her vagina? 1.00

01:47:48.000 I was like, everybody knows what vaginas smell like. 1.00

01:47:50.000 We need a butthole candle. 0.99

01:47:51.000 Did you come up with this idea after her? 1.00

01:47:53.000 This is like some next level shit? 0.99

01:47:54.000 I came up with that idea after I got really stoned. 1.00

01:47:58.000 Really, really stoned.

01:47:59.000 And I was like, here's Gwyneth Paltrow. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Pussy candle. 1.00

01:48:03.000 What other body parts could I... Feet. 1.00

01:48:05.000 Oof.

01:48:06.000 You have all creeps.

01:48:08.000 You have the creepiest guys at your show just looking at you, staring at your feet. 0.99

01:48:11.000 There's a lot of foot fucks out there. 1.00

01:48:13.000 I'm on Wikifedia somehow. 0.97

01:48:15.000 Congratulations.

01:48:16.000 Thank you.

01:48:17.000 I'm stating all my alkalades.

01:48:19.000 Wikifedia?

01:48:19.000 Yeah.

01:48:20.000 It's another area of a woman's life you have to be. 1.00

01:48:24.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

01:48:28.000 If there's even a toe in a fucking photo, some dude comes out from the earth, like some little slithering worm, and he's like, I see a toe! 0.99

01:48:36.000 That's why Andy Letterman is so funny. 0.99

01:48:37.000 All of her pictures, she has her feet in them, and they're all pixelated. 0.99

01:48:41.000 Yeah, now she can have an OnlyFans account where that bitch can retire. 1.00

01:48:44.000 If you're a woman in this climate and you don't have anything to do, retire on your butthole. 1.00

01:48:49.000 Retire on your feet. 0.99

01:48:50.000 There's a whole world for it.

01:48:51.000 It depends on how much money they're giving you every month, but you don't need a lot of people to sustain you.

01:48:56.000 No, and it's much smarter for a smaller price to attract a certain number of people.

01:49:03.000 Do you think the legitimate fitness girls get mad at the naked fitness girls? 1.00

01:49:06.000 Absolutely.

01:49:07.000 A lot of hating, right?

01:49:08.000 Well, there's always people worried about it diluting their own industry. 1.00

01:49:12.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

01:49:13.000 They define the industry. 1.00

01:49:15.000 They also define the standards because if there's going to be a high standard, there has to be a low standard.

01:49:20.000 Don't you think?

01:49:20.000 With every industry?

01:49:22.000 It's almost like natural selection.

01:49:24.000 It becomes a different thing, right?

01:49:26.000 Because, for one, the fitness thing, for sure, it's inspiring girls to want to look like her and do this and 10 lunges and this and that and that. 0.99

01:49:35.000 For sure. 1.00

01:49:36.000 But also a bunch of guys who want to fuck her. 1.00

01:49:39.000 Absolutely. 1.00

01:49:40.000 But when you dip into the world of here's my naked pictures for X amount a month, then you're in a different realm.

01:49:46.000 Because then the other girls that are just like the fitness girls who are just, they're really expressly trying to motivate women to get fit and they're showing all these exercises and every day they're doing crunches and telling you to push it and keep going and don't quit.

01:49:58.000 One time I thought about quitting, but I didn't.

01:50:00.000 Here I am. 1.00

01:50:01.000 But also, here's my pussy. 1.00

01:50:05.000 I think it seems like a full package. 1.00

01:50:08.000 Are they mutually exclusive?

01:50:08.000 Oh gosh.

01:50:09.000 Can you have a girl who's like a really motivating fitness girl who's got like the abs and like the midriff showing and wearing the yoga pants and looking like a badass? 1.00

01:50:21.000 I think you can have it, but you have to be honest about it. 1.00

01:50:24.000 And see her pussy. 1.00

01:50:26.000 She's got to be honest about it. 1.00

01:50:28.000 She's got to be like, hey, I'm here for Pilates and pussy. 1.00

01:50:35.000 Here's the thing that drives me nuts. 1.00

01:50:36.000 Those girls acting like they aren't also pussy girls. 1.00

01:50:39.000 You're also a pussy girl. 1.00

01:50:40.000 What does that mean, a pussy girl? 1.00

01:50:42.000 You know what it means. 1.00

01:50:43.000 Jamie knows what it means.

01:50:45.000 He's Googling it.

01:50:46.000 He's out there.

01:50:47.000 He knows the girls.

01:50:48.000 But...

01:50:50.000 That's the difference in girls. 1.00

01:50:51.000 A girl shows her pussy is a pussy girl. 1.00

01:50:53.000 There's enough space for everybody. 1.00

01:50:54.000 There should be, but a lot of bitches are hating. 1.00

01:50:56.000 Well, hating bitches should focus their hate into something that can benefit them. 1.00

01:51:01.000 Cindy's over here just working on her lunges and trying to put together a good program for you, and Debbie's showing her whole asshole for five dollars. 1.00

01:51:09.000 Look, my ball would be much more expensive. 1.00

01:51:11.000 And Cindy's so fucking mad at Debbie, that whore! 1.00

01:51:13.000 She's ruining my squat business! 1.00

01:51:16.000 With her butthole. 1.00

01:51:17.000 One butthole took my whole business down. 1.00

01:51:19.000 Cindy's all about those squats. 1.00

01:51:21.000 But there's enough people for both areas, don't you think?

01:51:25.000 No.

01:51:26.000 You don't? 0.99

01:51:27.000 There's a standoff, a Mexican standoff in the streets like a goddamn western movie with Clint Eastwood. 0.99

01:51:33.000 They should have to actually do a physical test. 0.99

01:51:36.000 They should have to squat each other out.

01:51:38.000 Whoever dies first is done.

01:51:41.000 Well, it's weird because they're in a new category.

01:51:44.000 Ho? 0.98

01:51:45.000 No.

01:51:46.000 I can say that.

01:51:47.000 They've been around forever.

01:51:48.000 Ho's been around forever. 0.99

01:51:49.000 Yeah, it's the oldest job.

01:51:50.000 But they're in a new category, like the female fitness influencer. 1.00

01:51:54.000 That didn't exist.

01:51:56.000 It never existed.

01:51:58.000 I just googled OnlyFans, and there's actually a story that's on this topic that's not fitness.

01:52:04.000 Oh, I heard about this.

01:52:05.000 This lady is a mechanic, and apparently a very talented mechanic. 1.00

01:52:09.000 And the boys at work found out she also has an OnlyFans account where she shows LeCouter, and they fired her. 0.99

01:52:18.000 Hypocrites! 0.97

01:52:19.000 So the guys were harassing her at work and talking about it because she had created all this problem. 1.00

01:52:25.000 Oh, fuck them! 1.00

01:52:25.000 By having this... 1.00

01:52:27.000 It might encourage her co-workers to approach you with an unwanted sexual conduct or comments.

01:52:32.000 So that's why they fired her. 1.00

01:52:33.000 Please, give me a break.

01:52:34.000 You know the wives called. 1.00

01:52:36.000 First of all, let's cut the shit. 1.00

01:52:37.000 She should be happy. 1.00

01:52:38.000 This is going to make her way famous. 1.00

01:52:40.000 Way more people are paying attention to her OnlyFans account than ever would have ever before.

01:52:45.000 Congratulations, you hit the lottery.

01:52:47.000 You worked with creeps, and you played it well, and you got paid.

01:52:49.000 And they did you a favor by firing you.

01:52:51.000 They did you a favor.

01:52:52.000 Also, my car's making a weird squeaky noise.

01:52:54.000 Yeah.

01:52:57.000 Seriously, hit me up, girl. 0.98

01:52:59.000 I could use a little work under the hood if you know what I'm saying.

01:53:01.000 What were we just saying when we were talking about OnlyFans accounts just before that?

01:53:05.000 Buttholes? 0.99

01:53:05.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

01:53:06.000 We passed that.

01:53:07.000 Fitness accounts?

01:53:08.000 You were talking about fitness models?

01:53:09.000 The fitness influencers.

01:53:11.000 Like, before, like, who was the first one? 0.99

01:53:14.000 Dude, it might have been fucking Jane Fonda. 1.00

01:53:17.000 Oh, she's the OG. Or Olivia Newton-John. 0.99

01:53:19.000 No, Jane Fonda was way before Olivia Newton-John.

01:53:22.000 Jane Fonda, didn't she do, after movies, she was doing videos. 0.99

01:53:25.000 She got into fitness.

01:53:26.000 Why do you think she looks that good? 0.71

01:53:27.000 She's like 172. She's not that old.

01:53:30.000 No, she's like 82. I think you're exaggerating.

01:53:31.000 I am exaggerating.

01:53:32.000 But you're right.

01:53:32.000 She was like the first fitness influencer.

01:53:36.000 Yes, she was.

01:53:36.000 That's a female.

01:53:37.000 She was making videos back in the 70s and 80s.

01:53:39.000 But can you name one other one from that era?

01:53:43.000 Susan Summers. 0.92

01:53:44.000 Well, she's the fat one, though. 1.00

01:53:45.000 She just wanted to lose fat. 0.64

01:53:47.000 But that's her thing. 0.97

01:53:48.000 It was about losing fat.

01:53:51.000 I meant the losing fat one.

01:53:54.000 That was her thing.

01:53:55.000 Stop the insanity.

01:53:56.000 Just eat a potato, right?

01:53:57.000 That's not Suzanne Somers. 1.00

01:53:59.000 Stop the insanity is Susan Powder. 0.96

01:54:01.000 You're right.

01:54:02.000 Suzanne Somers is Thighmaster.

01:54:03.000 Thighmaster.

01:54:04.000 Right.

01:54:04.000 She's Three's Company.

01:54:05.000 Susan Powder was the fat lady. 0.99

01:54:07.000 I'm sorry, Suzanne Somers. 1.00

01:54:08.000 Yeah, get your shit right. 0.99

01:54:09.000 The other one. 0.99

01:54:09.000 I meant the other one. 0.99

01:54:10.000 Suzanne Powder was the one with the shaved head, told you to eat a potato every day. 1.00

01:54:14.000 Stop the insanity! 1.00

01:54:14.000 Put the fucking cake down! 1.00

01:54:15.000 Just eat potatoes, right? 1.00

01:54:17.000 Wasn't that her thing?

01:54:17.000 Eat potatoes!

01:54:19.000 Don't be fat practice!

01:54:20.000 If you just eat potatoes, you will lose weight.

01:54:22.000 It does work, because you're so bored.

01:54:24.000 You don't eat that much, and so your body just naturally starts eating itself, and you get thinner and weaker. 0.99

01:54:29.000 That's fucking terrible. 0.99

01:54:31.000 Congratulations, you tried to survive on potatoes. 1.00

01:54:33.000 Yeah, Suzanne Somers is another one, right? 1.00

01:54:35.000 And she did those videos. 0.99

01:54:36.000 She did the Thighmaster videos. 1.00

01:54:39.000 That thing of squeezing your pussy together, is that the most sexually suggestive of all athletic devices? 0.99

01:54:46.000 How many people are really concentrating on firming up the center of their thigh? 1.00

01:54:50.000 A lot of bitches. 1.00

01:54:51.000 That was also the first OnlyFans account. 1.00

01:54:54.000 She's out there just doing Kegels. 1.00

01:54:56.000 Yeah, that's a Kegel.

01:54:56.000 I mean, it's like an outside Kegel.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, you're tightening up all the muscles.

01:55:01.000 It's like, are you working with your neck muscles?

01:55:02.000 No, I'm just doing traps.

01:55:04.000 You've got to do your Kegels.

01:55:06.000 Especially in quarantine.

01:55:07.000 There's plenty of time to be doing it. 1.00

01:55:08.000 Squeeze that pussy. 1.00

01:55:09.000 You've got to squeeze that pussy. 1.00

01:55:10.000 There she is. 1.00

01:55:10.000 Make it tight. 1.00

01:55:11.000 Make it tight.

01:55:11.000 Look at her.

01:55:12.000 Make it right.

01:55:13.000 She has a phenomenal body. 1.00

01:55:14.000 Good lord.

01:55:15.000 Who was your lady of your youth that you liked?

01:55:18.000 Everyone liked Farrah Fawcett. 0.99

01:55:20.000 Everybody liked her.

01:55:20.000 Suzanne Somers was hot.

01:55:22.000 She was the rare combination of hot and funny. 0.99

01:55:24.000 When she was on Three's Company.

01:55:27.000 Oh yeah, she was.

01:55:27.000 You're right.

01:55:28.000 She was talented.

01:55:29.000 Do you ever watch the whole story of that?

01:55:32.000 It's like one of those behind the scenes stories.

01:55:34.000 There's a contract dispute between Suzanne Somers. 1.00

01:55:37.000 Were they all bony?

01:55:37.000 John Ritter?

01:55:38.000 No, I think she wanted more money. 1.00

01:55:39.000 Yes, that's right.

01:55:40.000 Yeah, John Ritter was making the lion's share of the loop. 1.00

01:55:43.000 And she was like, yo, what the fuck? 0.99

01:55:45.000 We need to have favored nations here. 0.99

01:55:46.000 There was one season where she was on vacation and she would call into the show.

01:55:52.000 No, I'm not kidding.

01:55:53.000 She was on the phone talking to them.

01:55:55.000 That was all she was in.

01:55:56.000 Because the contract was in negotiation?

01:55:58.000 It was...

01:55:59.000 Well, I think either they were punishing her or because of the contract negotiations, they didn't want her to be a major part of the show where she could hold the show up. 0.99

01:56:07.000 So they said, look, you got to have one scene and we could delete it if we wanted to. 1.00

01:56:10.000 She's like, fuck you. 1.00

01:56:11.000 Do you know how strong my pussy is? 1.00

01:56:12.000 I will break you. 1.00

01:56:13.000 I think she developed her strong pussy as a response to this. 1.00

01:56:17.000 She probably did. 1.00

01:56:18.000 This tyranny on set. 0.99

01:56:20.000 I'm going to fucking snap it off. 0.99

01:56:21.000 Guys can do kegels too. 1.00

01:56:24.000 You mean your asshole? 1.00

01:56:25.000 Is that what you're saying? 1.00

01:56:25.000 No, it's a pelvic floor exercise. 1.00

01:56:28.000 Dudes can do it too. 1.00

01:56:29.000 It's a good dude exercise.

01:56:30.000 I don't know if you guys have a pant pissing issue like women do when they get a little older. 1.00

01:56:34.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:56:35.000 Women with kids, they laugh too hard. 1.00

01:56:37.000 They piss themselves. 1.00

01:56:39.000 Which is what I'm going for at my show because I want bitches to piss their pants. 1.00

01:56:42.000 I bet you've done it already. 1.00

01:56:43.000 You don't even know. 0.89

01:56:44.000 It should be an app where every time you piss yourself at a comedy show, you can click it and you'd like to see which person makes women piss themselves the most. 0.99

01:56:55.000 It's no longer laughter. 0.55

01:56:57.000 It's all about the piss factor. 0.99

01:56:58.000 I made bitches piss. 1.00

01:57:00.000 It's not like an indicator for everybody. 0.99

01:57:03.000 But for some people, it's an undeniable indicator.

01:57:05.000 Yes.

01:57:05.000 Like if someone in the middle...

01:57:07.000 You say you didn't laugh at the show.

01:57:09.000 That's interesting, Tammy.

01:57:10.000 Because it shows here, when Jessie Mae hit that punchline, you pissed your pants.

01:57:14.000 It says it right here.

01:57:15.000 We read the thong factor here. 1.00

01:57:17.000 Stop being a fucking hater. 1.00

01:57:18.000 There's some saturation in that little slice of cotton. 1.00

01:57:21.000 Yeah, you're all red. 0.72

01:57:22.000 As soon as the punchline hits, that's piss.

01:57:25.000 Okay?

01:57:27.000 That's obviously piss. 0.84

01:57:29.000 Dirty. 0.96

01:57:29.000 Moist underwear lady. 0.96

01:57:32.000 What do you think is going to happen all this?

01:57:34.000 Are we going to be back on the road?

01:57:35.000 No. 1.00

01:57:36.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:57:36.000 Not for a while. 1.00

01:57:38.000 Yeah, I think people are going to be weirded out.

01:57:40.000 Despite all these studies that have come out, and people keep sending me more and more articles that are being written saying that this is not as dangerous as the flu.

01:57:48.000 But that's not really true.

01:57:50.000 Because they're basing it on how many people die from the flu every year when we don't quarantine.

01:57:58.000 Right.

01:57:58.000 So this is quarantining and the amount of people is equal to or greater than most seasonal flus.

01:58:06.000 It's a little more aggressive.

01:58:06.000 And it's faster.

01:58:08.000 Yeah, it's very aggressive.

01:58:08.000 But it's also weird because some people get it in nothing.

01:58:11.000 So it's confusing because it's a new thing.

01:58:14.000 It is very confusing.

01:58:15.000 Because it's a new disease.

01:58:15.000 Look, we're very lucky it's not targeting babies and children.

01:58:18.000 We're very, very lucky.

01:58:19.000 Yeah.

01:58:20.000 You know, we're very lucky.

01:58:21.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:58:21.000 And it sucks that it's targeting old people, and it sucks that it's targeting obesity seems to be the number one thing they said in New York City. 0.93

01:58:27.000 There was a number one thing that the patients that had the roughest times with it had in common. 0.97

01:58:31.000 I mean, obesity, that's like number two killer.

01:58:34.000 It's way up there.

01:58:35.000 I mean, diabetes, it's such a...

01:58:36.000 If you're obese, you're susceptible to most of the diseases and issues that arise with people.

01:58:42.000 I think that's also what scares people about opioids, as opposed to cigarettes.

01:58:45.000 Cigarettes kill you, but they kill you slow.

01:58:48.000 Yeah, it is a slow burn, no pun intended.

01:58:50.000 They play it nice.

01:58:51.000 So is obesity.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:54.000 Obesity is slow.

01:58:55.000 And painful.

01:58:55.000 That's slow.

01:58:56.000 Yeah, it's a rough one.

01:58:57.000 And expensive.

01:58:58.000 And then your joints go, ugh.

01:58:59.000 It's brutal.

01:59:01.000 I mean, it looks painful for people.

01:59:03.000 Remember the Maury Povich show where they would have to- How about Ralphie?

01:59:07.000 When Ralphie was alive, it was rough.

01:59:09.000 And was he...

01:59:09.000 I'm not trying to be disrespectful to him at all, but at his point of passing, was he at his heaviest?

01:59:16.000 I don't think so.

01:59:17.000 I wonder if he had fluctuated throughout...

01:59:19.000 He fluctuated.

01:59:20.000 He even had some operations.

01:59:22.000 But talk about somebody who obviously experienced a lot of, you know...

01:59:27.000 A lot of pain.

01:59:28.000 A lot of pain.

01:59:29.000 But the nicest guy.

01:59:30.000 Very nice guy.

01:59:31.000 Just a ball of joy.

01:59:33.000 Ball's probably a bad term.

01:59:35.000 Ah, too late.

01:59:38.000 He would have laughed.

01:59:39.000 He would have laughed for sure.

01:59:41.000 He would have laughed for sure.

01:59:43.000 It's like, you know, it's not anyone's hope that your baby boy grows up to be morbidly obese.

01:59:50.000 It's not anybody's hope.

01:59:51.000 No.

01:59:51.000 And this is the difference between the way I look at people now as opposed to 20 years ago.

01:59:58.000 Pre-K? Pre-kids?

02:00:00.000 BK before children, before kids?

02:00:02.000 The whole thing seems like a different enterprise to me.

02:00:05.000 The whole thing in terms of who you are and what is life.

02:00:09.000 And so much of it is based on, like, if you wanted to look at it like this big old problem.

02:00:13.000 Like, what's causing the majority of the issues in this big problem, this complex thing that you're trying to solve?

02:00:20.000 Well, the biggest issue seems to be the childhood thing.

02:00:22.000 The biggest issue seems to be the love that you experience in the house.

02:00:26.000 The lack thereof.

02:00:28.000 The lack thereof.

02:00:29.000 Those are the motivating factors.

02:00:30.000 Positive and negative.

02:00:31.000 Like, it's not a simple equation.

02:00:35.000 No, it's not.

02:00:36.000 Because, like, we were just talking about Joey.

02:00:38.000 Everyone loves Joey.

02:00:40.000 We love Joey.

02:00:40.000 But you don't make a Joey if everything's great.

02:00:43.000 No.

02:00:43.000 If you are there for your kid and the kid never does drugs, never holds someone hostage with a machine gun and a Coke deal gone bad, of all those things that Joey's done...

02:00:54.000 If everything goes great, your kid never does those things.

02:00:57.000 You're not breastfeeding on time all the time with that kid. 0.90

02:00:57.000 No. 0.90

02:00:59.000 No!

02:01:00.000 But as Joey got through that, he became this rare thing that everybody loves, and it's precisely because of all that struggle.

02:01:11.000 So it's a real conundrum.

02:01:13.000 It is a conundrum because struggle can either define you in a beneficial way or it defines everything that's bad about you.

02:01:22.000 And all the negativity is just reinforced because you're still connected to that pain and trauma.

02:01:28.000 You're behaving ways to go back, revert back to that time in your life where you were experiencing pain because it's a connection.

02:01:37.000 It's a connection.

02:01:38.000 That was the only love that you had.

02:01:39.000 Sure, sure.

02:01:41.000 And everybody has things in their life they have to process.

02:01:43.000 Things that have been done to them, things that they do.

02:01:45.000 And you need some sort of a purging of your past to accept who you are as a person.

02:01:53.000 And that is one of the reasons why I like jiu-jitsu.

02:01:56.000 It's one of the reasons why I like anything that's really hard to do.

02:01:59.000 What do you think...

02:02:00.000 What in your life has been the thing that you've associated the most pain with?

02:02:03.000 Like what is something that you experience that has caused you the most pain or maybe, you know, trauma or something that you experienced?

02:02:11.000 Bombing at the store!

02:02:14.000 That is painful to your core.

02:02:16.000 I'm still hurting from going on after Martin Lawrence in the 90s.

02:02:19.000 Was he so funny?

02:02:20.000 And I'm not kidding.

02:02:21.000 Was he so funny? 0.94

02:02:22.000 Oh, dude, when I first came to the comic store, by the way, I sucked, okay?

02:02:26.000 I was like 26 or 27. And Martin Lawrence was on top of the world.

02:02:32.000 He was wearing leather jumpsuits on stage and murdering.

02:02:35.000 He was so funny.

02:02:36.000 The place would be packed.

02:02:40.000 We're good to go. 0.99

02:03:05.000 Like Mitzi put me on after Martin Lawrence like fucking every time I had a spot. 0.99

02:03:08.000 That's boot camp. 0.99

02:03:09.000 Right after Martin.

02:03:11.000 No!

02:03:12.000 That is boot camp.

02:03:13.000 First of all, most of the audience would just get up and leave. 0.99

02:03:16.000 Like when Martin Lawrence is done, the fucking show's over. 0.99

02:03:18.000 They want to follow it. 0.99

02:03:20.000 They want to go after the rock star.

02:03:21.000 You produce all that electric energy in the room and then they want to go after that.

02:03:26.000 It happens when you're on stage.

02:03:27.000 They want to go home.

02:03:28.000 That's what they want.

02:03:28.000 The show's over.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, they're exhausted.

02:03:30.000 They've exhausted their laughter.

02:03:31.000 They've seen Martin Lawrence.

02:03:33.000 That's what they came to see.

02:03:33.000 But I've seen people do that to you at the store where you get off and they're like, we've got to go talk to Joe.

02:03:38.000 We've got to get some of that.

02:03:39.000 They want to get some of that energy from you. 0.96

02:03:42.000 Balls. 0.95

02:03:42.000 Don't do that. 0.95

02:03:43.000 I'm just feeling like this because I have two hands.

02:03:45.000 If I have three hands...

02:03:46.000 Mine are not quite that big. 0.99

02:03:47.000 You have chimpanzee balls. 0.99

02:03:48.000 I have normal sized balls. 1.00

02:03:50.000 Joey's got something preposterous. 1.00

02:03:52.000 No, Joey's are like gorillas. 0.91

02:03:53.000 You're probably... 1.00

02:03:54.000 No, gorillas have little jicks and little balls. 1.00

02:03:56.000 Actually, they have little ones. 0.99

02:03:56.000 That's right. 0.99

02:03:56.000 Yeah, because they take care of the harem. 0.99

02:03:58.000 They don't have a competition.

02:03:59.000 Yeah, there's no competition.

02:04:00.000 So what's Joey's deal?

02:04:01.000 Does he have competition in the house?

02:04:03.000 They also don't eat meat.

02:04:03.000 Just growing up, I'm sure he had a lot of competition.

02:04:06.000 That's how it developed.

02:04:06.000 His nuts are traumatized from his childhood.

02:04:11.000 That's my friend Dr. Chris Ryan.

02:04:13.000 He talks about that all the time.

02:04:15.000 That competitive... 0.99

02:04:16.000 If you look at the size of the testicles of chimpanzees, there's a direct correlation between the size of their nuts and then how promiscuous the females are. 0.99

02:04:26.000 Yes. 1.00

02:04:27.000 Because if the females are hoes, their balls just keep getting bigger and bigger. 1.00

02:04:29.000 These dirty bitches are out there fucking everybody and I'm going to fuck them better and they're just building up bigger and bigger loads. 1.00

02:04:36.000 It's wild. 1.00

02:04:37.000 Just that whole process, the load that a guy releases and all of those sperm are competing, every single one. 1.00

02:04:45.000 It's a whole army and they're all competing to get to the fucking egg. 0.99

02:04:48.000 Do you remember when the orcs attacked the elves in Game of Thrones? 0.99

02:04:53.000 Yes!

02:04:53.000 When they came...

02:04:54.000 That's sperm! 1.00

02:04:56.000 That's the loads.

02:04:57.000 Do you think they're screaming?

02:04:58.000 Do you think they're screaming in there?

02:04:59.000 Yeah, mine are, for sure.

02:05:00.000 Mine are screaming.

02:05:02.000 Mine are screaming.

02:05:03.000 Do you think there's like the Chariots of Fires playing as well?

02:05:07.000 It's like an unintelligent noise that you would expect like a demon to be screaming if it was coming over a hill chasing you like...

02:05:14.000 Yeah, it is demonic. 0.99

02:05:17.000 That's all cum. 0.99

02:05:18.000 All cum screams. 0.99

02:05:20.000 That's what I think. 1.00

02:05:21.000 Cum screams. 0.95

02:05:21.000 Hello, special title. 0.95

02:05:23.000 The speed that it's projecting.

02:05:26.000 It's coming flying out of you.

02:05:27.000 It's screaming.

02:05:28.000 And so much.

02:05:29.000 What else comes shooting out of you like that?

02:05:31.000 It literally shoots out.

02:05:33.000 Tears?

02:05:34.000 Not like that.

02:05:35.000 If your tears shoot out like that...

02:05:37.000 You haven't met my sisters.

02:05:38.000 I mean, it's literally like it's trying to get up in there.

02:05:41.000 Yeah.

02:05:41.000 That's what it is.

02:05:41.000 It's like, boom!

02:05:42.000 Of course they're screaming.

02:05:43.000 Yeah.

02:05:44.000 Wouldn't it be cool if you could hear them? 0.99

02:05:46.000 I wonder if it would change how often people fuck or the way guys shoot. 0.97

02:05:49.000 Like, if you could hear the sperm screaming, I wonder if they'd be that as many, like, money shots. 1.00

02:05:53.000 I wonder if your plants do better if they hear you fuck. 1.00

02:05:55.000 Your plants? 1.00

02:05:56.000 Yeah, if you have your plants around you and you're fucking. 0.99

02:05:58.000 Because if you think with music, music helps. 0.99

02:05:58.000 Absolutely. 0.99

02:06:01.000 What if we could find out that if you fuck while you listen to The Prince, you get 75% more biomass. 1.00

02:06:08.000 75% less? 1.00

02:06:09.000 He was so little.

02:06:10.000 No.

02:06:11.000 No.

02:06:12.000 But the music is so big.

02:06:14.000 It was so big. 0.98

02:06:15.000 If you're listening to Purple Rain while you're fucking, and the trunks just keep getting thicker on all your plans. 0.99

02:06:20.000 That's interesting, though. 0.97

02:06:21.000 I wonder if music does persuade the successfulness of the pregnancy and someone getting pregnant. 0.78

02:06:29.000 That's a good question, right?

02:06:30.000 Because if having Mozart play for your growing baby makes them a little bit more able to be intelligent and make smarter choices, maybe it can sort of help people just get pregnant quicker.

02:06:43.000 When I was a kid, I was one of the first generations of people that had a Walkman, okay?

02:06:48.000 So when I was working out, I was going to the gym.

02:06:52.000 Back in, like, the fuckin' 80s, alright, when I was in high school and I was wrestling, I would have a cassette player. 0.79

02:06:59.000 I was a zygote. 0.81

02:06:59.000 That would, like, sit on my hip. 0.81

02:07:01.000 I had, like, this fuckin' neoprene belt or some shit. 0.98

02:07:03.000 I forget how it strapped in. 0.99

02:07:05.000 But this cassette player and headphones.

02:07:08.000 And I would go to the gym and you could listen to your own music at the gym. 1.00

02:07:13.000 This shit was unheard of. 1.00

02:07:14.000 Do you understand this? 1.00

02:07:15.000 Unheard of.

02:07:16.000 And I remember doing leg presses to Welcome to the Jungle by Guns N' Roses.

02:07:21.000 And I remember thinking how strong I felt because of this music.

02:07:26.000 Oh, your daughters are going to be fine.

02:07:28.000 And so I got off the leg press and I was like, that's crazy because I literally felt like I had more energy.

02:07:33.000 Like something happened. 0.62

02:07:34.000 I wanted to fucking go harder because of the music. 0.90

02:07:37.000 And I was like, okay, that is like, it's doing something. 0.96

02:07:40.000 I know it's exciting me and that's making, but what else is going on?

02:07:44.000 Music's the only thing that stimulates all areas of your brain simultaneously.

02:07:48.000 It's one of the only things.

02:07:50.000 Have you done studies on this?

02:07:51.000 That's what I've read off of your Twitter feed.

02:07:56.000 Music stimulates everything, including nail growth. 0.98

02:07:59.000 Including your sperm success.

02:08:01.000 All of it. 0.70

02:08:03.000 It's kind of true.

02:08:05.000 Thank you, Jamie.

02:08:06.000 There's a book on Audible, so I listened to this book.

02:08:09.000 You read it.

02:08:10.000 Called Music on the Brain.

02:08:10.000 You're a doctor.

02:08:12.000 I honestly even think the person who is doing most of the talking is someone that's been on the podcast.

02:08:19.000 I can't remember off the top of my head who it was.

02:08:21.000 But they were talking about when you're running.

02:08:23.000 So if you're listening to music at a loud volume, That takes an amount of brain power just to be processing that.

02:08:30.000 Add that on top of the physical activity you're doing, that takes brain power to do, plus the endorphins, plus all the chemical processes.

02:08:38.000 There is something that happens there.

02:08:40.000 It has been studied.

02:08:41.000 I cannot regurgitate it, obviously, but...

02:08:43.000 I only know it because of...

02:08:44.000 But that would imply that it's actually...

02:08:46.000 It hinders performance because it requires resources.

02:08:50.000 Resources to listen to music and then resources to run.

02:08:53.000 But not necessarily if it's engaging.

02:08:56.000 If the entire brain is being engaged, I would think it would enhance the ability for you to exercise and maybe some of the...

02:09:06.000 Maybe get out of your own way.

02:09:08.000 Yeah.

02:09:09.000 The only reason I know about it is because with research with Alzheimer's, they say when the Alzheimer's patients reach a certain level or even just early on in their diagnosis, that music can help alleviate some of the stresses and anxieties that are associated with the disease.

02:09:23.000 And because it activates the parts of the brain, most of the parts of the brain, that it is thought to be a therapy for people who have Alzheimer's.

02:09:31.000 Yeah.

02:09:31.000 That makes sense.

02:09:32.000 Because it's doing something to juice up your brain.

02:09:35.000 Wouldn't that be almost like a sauna for your brain?

02:09:38.000 Exactly.

02:09:39.000 During the last two weeks of my dad's life, he could not communicate, couldn't eat, his motor functions and everything had just stopped.

02:09:46.000 We played Sinatra. 0.99

02:09:47.000 That motherfucker didn't talk for two weeks. 1.00

02:09:49.000 We played Sinatra, he started to sing. 1.00

02:09:51.000 Wow.

02:09:52.000 Which song?

02:09:53.000 Fly Me to the Moon, ironically.

02:09:55.000 Oh, that's a good one.

02:09:56.000 Yeah.

02:09:56.000 He started to sing, and he also, the last thing he laughed at was a fart, so...

02:10:04.000 That's hilarious.

02:10:05.000 Speaking of fart, let's fire up the black ash.

02:10:09.000 Is that what it's called?

02:10:10.000 This is Donnell's own personal...

02:10:12.000 My man sells candles.

02:10:13.000 I love Donnell so much.

02:10:14.000 What are you saying, Jamie?

02:10:14.000 I mixed up two things.

02:10:16.000 I listened to them at the same time, though.

02:10:18.000 So there's a book called Music in Your Brain, which is by...

02:10:20.000 I believe his name is...

02:10:22.000 Sorry, I just had it.

02:10:24.000 Sleviton was his last name.

02:10:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:26.000 Sleviton.

02:10:27.000 Stephen Levin.

02:10:28.000 I think I have that book.

02:10:30.000 Yes.

02:10:30.000 And then I also listened to a separate thing, which is by someone who has been here, Stephen Novella, Your Deceptive Mind.

02:10:38.000 He hasn't been here.

02:10:39.000 Which is a scientific...

02:10:40.000 He hasn't?

02:10:40.000 No.

02:10:41.000 Oh, I thought he has.

02:10:41.000 No.

02:10:42.000 I'm sorry.

02:10:43.000 Deceptive Minds.

02:10:44.000 There's so many guests, it's hard.

02:10:45.000 Don't worry about it.

02:10:46.000 I mean, we're at like 1,500 guests.

02:10:47.000 So Sean Carroll interviewed someone that did a podcast on the Music and the Brain.

02:10:50.000 I think that's where I was confusing.

02:10:52.000 Ah, okay.

02:10:53.000 I mean, isn't that interesting, though?

02:10:54.000 I listen to a lot of stuff about it.

02:10:55.000 Donnell's Candle does not want to stay lit.

02:10:57.000 Well, the key to candles is you have to burn them until...

02:11:00.000 You have to cut them.

02:11:02.000 First of all, you need to cut the wick.

02:11:03.000 And then you have to let them burn until the whole area is melted so that it burns equally all the way down.

02:11:09.000 That looks like a disaster.

02:11:11.000 This is a mess.

02:11:12.000 Yeah, it's a mess.

02:11:12.000 It's no surprise.

02:11:13.000 Somebody sent me one.

02:11:15.000 It's like Bernie Sanders as Jesus.

02:11:19.000 I'm like, who's mass marketing those?

02:11:21.000 Did that come from Vermont?

02:11:24.000 It will be authentic.

02:11:26.000 This is not going to stay lit.

02:11:27.000 I'm going to have to do surgery on this candle thing.

02:11:29.000 Yeah, you got to cut out some of that goo.

02:11:32.000 See, this is a guy that's industrial.

02:11:34.000 He's figuring out what to do.

02:11:36.000 Industrious.

02:11:37.000 Figuring out what to do.

02:11:37.000 Like, I know what I'll do.

02:11:38.000 I'll sell some fucking candles. 1.00

02:11:40.000 That's, you know, fucking why not smell? 1.00

02:11:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:42.000 Oh shit, it seems to be working. 0.99

02:11:43.000 That's why I made a butthole candle. 1.00

02:11:45.000 Congratulations on that. 0.99

02:11:46.000 So are you openly admitting that you were inspired by Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina candle? 0.99

02:11:50.000 I was like, where's the butthole candle, girl? 0.99

02:11:50.000 Hell yeah. 0.99

02:11:52.000 How many of these butthole candles have you sold?

02:11:54.000 We haven't even opened yet.

02:11:55.000 I don't even think the shop's going to be open soon.

02:11:57.000 Website.

02:11:58.000 What does it really smell like?

02:11:59.000 How do you create a butthole smell?

02:12:01.000 It's sweet with a little bit of weather.

02:12:08.000 Like swamp fog?

02:12:09.000 Well, yeah, thank you.

02:12:10.000 Swamp fog, which they won't be at Coachella this year because it's canceled.

02:12:15.000 They were opening for Jared Leto's band.

02:12:18.000 Coming to the stage, swamp fog!

02:12:22.000 The girls just queef out a cloud. 1.00

02:12:29.000 Yeah, I did get inspired by Gwyneth, whatever her fucking name is. 0.99

02:12:34.000 Just call her Goop. 0.99

02:12:35.000 Yeah, Goops.

02:12:35.000 Candle.

02:12:36.000 Goops, whole setup. 0.97

02:12:37.000 Did you try one of them jade eggs in your twat? 0.98

02:12:39.000 Who? 0.99

02:12:42.000 That was one of her things.

02:12:44.000 She wanted people to put jade eggs inside your vajayjay? 1.00

02:12:46.000 No.

02:12:47.000 You know what?

02:12:48.000 Yes, they did.

02:12:48.000 I've been putting bleach tampons up there for too long.

02:12:52.000 We've got to go easy on the cooch. 0.99

02:12:55.000 We have to go gentle. 0.98

02:12:56.000 Here's the thing that men are never fucking aware of. 1.00

02:12:59.000 Toxic shock syndrome killed a lot of women from fucking tampons. 1.00

02:13:04.000 Imagine, you lose limbs, too. 1.00

02:13:07.000 If you're lucky...

02:13:08.000 You catch it early enough, you lose a limb.

02:13:10.000 How crazy is that?

02:13:11.000 It's so...

02:13:12.000 Because think about it.

02:13:13.000 It's this little piece of cotton.

02:13:14.000 I mean, it's happened to me a couple times where you're like, I think there might be a stowaway up there.

02:13:20.000 There might be somebody hopping the train.

02:13:20.000 I'm not sure.

02:13:22.000 I need to check and see if there's any passengers in the caboose.

02:13:25.000 I had a bit about tampons that I'm just remembering.

02:13:27.000 That a tampon was actually invented by men.

02:13:30.000 Yeah.

02:13:30.000 But it seems like a male invention.

02:13:32.000 A male invention to a female problem. 1.00

02:13:34.000 Let's plug it.

02:13:35.000 That we don't have.

02:13:35.000 Like, what?

02:13:36.000 Stuff something up there.

02:13:38.000 It's like, hit it.

02:13:39.000 Like, you guys, to fix things, you smack them around.

02:13:41.000 Why are you still stuffing things up there?

02:13:43.000 I agree.

02:13:43.000 I mean, that is a temple.

02:13:44.000 You need to be gentle with your coochie. 1.00

02:13:46.000 And we're just jamming it.

02:13:47.000 I know girls who will throw up a leg on the bathtub, on the wall of the bathtub, and just jam it up there with one finger just recklessly. 1.00

02:13:54.000 You've got to go easy.

02:13:55.000 It seems like also it can't be good for it.

02:13:57.000 Like, that blood's supposed to come out.

02:13:59.000 It's not supposed to get stuck up there.

02:14:01.000 No, I definitely take it easy with the clitty cat down there. 1.00

02:14:06.000 I go gentle with it, but...

02:14:07.000 Do you think that's nature's way, like before tampons were invented, trying to gross out the male monkeys?

02:14:13.000 Like, oh, when we flush it out, just have it all come out.

02:14:16.000 I think there's probably something to at least keeping...

02:14:20.000 Discouraging.

02:14:20.000 Discouraging people to stay away from the girl so she can recover and recuperate some of those nutrients lost in that blood.

02:14:28.000 I'm sure there's something to that.

02:14:30.000 There's something with gypsies where when women bleed, I think it's called gaja or something like that, where when they bleed, traditionally people leave them alone and they stay in their cabin or wherever they're living and everyone just leaves them alone during that week. 0.98

02:14:44.000 If someone brings up gypsies, I think of two things.

02:14:47.000 Tyson Fury and werewolves.

02:14:50.000 That's what I think of.

02:14:51.000 Like the gypsy lady reading your poem, you of the mark of the wolf. 1.00

02:14:58.000 Werewolf would be cool.

02:14:58.000 Like, if you could pick one creature to be real, I feel like I know the answer to this because I'm your friend.

02:15:03.000 If you could pick one mystical creature to be real and exist now, what would it be?

02:15:07.000 Werewolf would be pretty cool.

02:15:08.000 I think Squatch would be great.

02:15:10.000 Squatch would be very cool.

02:15:12.000 That'd probably be the coolest.

02:15:13.000 And the most, like, reasonable. 1.00

02:15:15.000 For sure some Russian guy would hunt him and kill him. 1.00

02:15:17.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

02:15:18.000 For sure.

02:15:18.000 Putin.

02:15:18.000 He'd have him on the wall.

02:15:19.000 Yeah, Putin would have it stuffed in his office.

02:15:21.000 People would be real mad.

02:15:22.000 I love that you're saying this. 1.00

02:15:23.000 Meanwhile, there's like a fucking caribou. 0.99

02:15:25.000 I don't know what that is. 0.99

02:15:26.000 And this thing, an elk.

02:15:27.000 That's a water buffalo invasive species. 0.93

02:15:29.000 I just imagine a Sasquatch head over.

02:15:31.000 No, those are primates. 0.99

02:15:34.000 Yeah, that's a, when you get into the primate, like nobody gives a fuck about rats. 0.99

02:15:38.000 Like literally nobody gives a fuck about rats. 0.99

02:15:40.000 And they're taking over New York City. 0.99

02:15:42.000 They're having rat wars.

02:15:43.000 Have you paid attention to that?

02:15:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:44.000 They fight. 0.79

02:15:45.000 They kill each other.

02:15:47.000 They take over territories because there's no more food.

02:15:49.000 There's no more restaurants open. 0.97

02:15:51.000 Those little rats are out in the streets. 0.84

02:15:53.000 Same amount of rats, but no food now. 0.78

02:15:55.000 They're so smart. 0.98

02:15:56.000 They're desperado, too.

02:15:56.000 They're so smart.

02:15:58.000 We talked about that, like, you know, the thing when the test they did with the rats.

02:16:02.000 Yes.

02:16:03.000 And it becomes like this global consciousness that they have and they get smarter from a test that's done way far away.

02:16:09.000 What they did was on one side of the planet.

02:16:09.000 Explain what that means.

02:16:12.000 Make sure this is true, too.

02:16:13.000 I think it was.

02:16:14.000 Pretty sure it's true. 0.67

02:16:15.000 Look at Jamie's smirk.

02:16:16.000 They did a maze.

02:16:17.000 They taught a mouse how to go through a maze on one side of the planet. 0.78

02:16:21.000 Might be a rat. 0.82

02:16:22.000 Might be a mouse.

02:16:23.000 On one side of the planet.

02:16:24.000 And then the mice on the other side of the planet went through the maze quicker because of that.

02:16:27.000 Is that true?

02:16:28.000 That would be in the morphic resonance area.

02:16:31.000 Rupert Sheldrake.

02:16:32.000 Yeah.

02:16:33.000 He was on the podcast way back in the days.

02:16:35.000 Yeah, it's a very controversial idea.

02:16:36.000 Well, how do you gauge that?

02:16:38.000 It's very difficult to go, this is the result of that.

02:16:42.000 The cause and effect is a little cloudy there.

02:16:44.000 You know what I think, and this is just one of the times, I think of this sometimes, I'm not married to this, but I think that you have the possibility that To occasionally get these glimpses of maybe senses that are evolving in human beings.

02:17:00.000 And you can call it intuition.

02:17:02.000 You can call it some connection you have with somebody, especially with someone you really love, like your family or loved ones or someone you really care about and you think about them and then they call.

02:17:12.000 It's almost like, man, is there some sort of a connection?

02:17:16.000 Between people that just comes in and out.

02:17:19.000 It goes in and out.

02:17:19.000 Sometimes you're thinking about someone, they text you.

02:17:21.000 Is that just total coincidence?

02:17:23.000 It might be.

02:17:24.000 But it also might be that there's some weird, hard to define, impossible to measure connection that we all share with each other.

02:17:32.000 I think it's a beautiful way to look at it.

02:17:34.000 I thought about that one day when I was just, you know...

02:17:38.000 Thinking about my dad, I was traveling and it made me think about thoughts and how thoughts are almost like messages we send out into the universe to just let somebody else know they're not alone and maybe they grab them through some way, through some realm or portal.

02:17:53.000 And it's important to like...

02:17:56.000 Conversation is so important because of that, because it reminds you of things and you draw associations.

02:18:01.000 I was talking about my father one day, and you know John Heffron?

02:18:05.000 Yeah, sure.

02:18:06.000 He sent me a message, and it was while my dad was sick, and I was just, you know, very...

02:18:10.000 I was upset about it, and John was just like, you know, I went through the same thing that you did.

02:18:14.000 I want to let you know that hearing is one of the last senses to go when people are sick, just so you know that your dad can still hear you.

02:18:22.000 I had been afraid to call my dad during this whole process because I didn't want to know what he had forgotten.

02:18:28.000 John sent me that message on a Sunday.

02:18:31.000 And because he sent me that message, it made me think about my dad.

02:18:36.000 And I was like, you know, I haven't called him in so long.

02:18:38.000 I'm just going to call him tonight.

02:18:40.000 It was like four o'clock in the morning, East Coast time.

02:18:43.000 He was in his, you know, the, what is it, like hospice?

02:18:47.000 What's the last place that people go?

02:18:48.000 Is it like the nursing home is usually like right before people are passing?

02:18:52.000 I think it's like a nursing home.

02:18:54.000 Well, nursing homes certainly are a place where a lot of people wind up passing.

02:18:58.000 I think he went from memory care facility to the nursing home.

02:19:01.000 And I called the night nurse.

02:19:02.000 And my dad couldn't talk at that point.

02:19:04.000 But because I said something and John thought about it and sent me this DM, I'd never met him before.

02:19:10.000 And that DM made me want to call my dad.

02:19:11.000 And I called the night nurse.

02:19:13.000 It was like 4 o'clock in the morning in Syracuse, New York.

02:19:15.000 And I go, I know my dad can't hear me right now, but can you just tell him that I love him and I'm thinking about him?

02:19:21.000 And Karen, I think her name was, she said, sure, I can go in and I'll tell him I'll whisper it into his ear.

02:19:25.000 And that was about 4 o'clock.

02:19:26.000 And, you know, it was at 1 o'clock here, whatever the time difference is.

02:19:29.000 And so I fell asleep.

02:19:30.000 My sister calls me about 20 minutes later.

02:19:34.000 My dad passed away right after the nurse went in to tell him that.

02:19:39.000 And I can consider that a coincidence.

02:19:41.000 Sure, we can chalk it up to a coincidence.

02:19:43.000 Or it could be what you're speaking about, where there is some sort of deep connection that we have that we can't Express or articulate with words.

02:19:54.000 Even though these words that were sent to me are the thing that motivated me to talk to my dad, there's something to the effect that maybe there's something mystical going on.

02:20:03.000 Maybe there's something that we're not meant to explain.

02:20:05.000 Maybe the problem is the word mystical.

02:20:07.000 The problem is that we're looking at it like it's some sort of a magic thing. 0.95

02:20:10.000 And we're calling bullshit because so many people pretend to have it and don't. 0.77

02:20:14.000 And there's no real science to sort of back it up. 0.98

02:20:16.000 There's zero.

02:20:17.000 Yeah.

02:20:18.000 And there's also been, like, the amazing Randy's put out a reward where James Randy, I think it's a million dollars if you can prove any psychic ability, and no one's been able to win it.

02:20:26.000 Well, how do you prove things of the brain?

02:20:29.000 You'd have to do it through...

02:20:30.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:20:31.000 If it is...

02:20:32.000 Let's just go wild here.

02:20:33.000 We need Neil deGrasse Tyson.

02:20:35.000 If it is an emerging...

02:20:35.000 He would never allow this.

02:20:36.000 He would cut this off. 0.98

02:20:38.000 Never allow this kind of nonsense. 0.53

02:20:39.000 He doesn't want the curtain behind it.

02:20:40.000 He would entertain it with a scientific perspective.

02:20:43.000 But if you're looking at something like an emerging characteristic of human beings, for instance, we know that we used to be single-celled organisms.

02:20:53.000 It's very unlikely that during the time we were single-celled organisms, we could talk.

02:20:56.000 For like 30 minutes.

02:20:57.000 Or we could feel or we could do interpretive dance.

02:20:59.000 No one was writing books on a single-celled organism.

02:21:02.000 So as these single-celled organisms become multi-celled organisms, become human beings, things are getting more and more complex and more and more skills and more and more senses and more and more of an ability to manipulate their environment.

02:21:15.000 And I think that it only makes sense that there could be some non-local connection that we have to each other.

02:21:24.000 Some way without just touching or talking or through visual.

02:21:28.000 There's some sort of a connection that we have with each other that we just haven't evolved yet.

02:21:31.000 It's on the way.

02:21:33.000 It's coming.

02:21:34.000 And that's why we long for it.

02:21:35.000 That's why we're really interested in psychics. 0.97

02:21:38.000 We're really interested in people that know the future.

02:21:40.000 Not just because we want to know what the future is.

02:21:42.000 We want some sort of a feeling of Of hope.

02:21:46.000 And interconnectivity.

02:21:48.000 Yeah, but it's not just that.

02:21:49.000 It's also that I think we know there's something to it.

02:21:53.000 Well, I think we know there's something grander beyond just this physical existence that we have.

02:22:01.000 And then it brings up the whole conversation about the creation or existence and introduction of consciousness.

02:22:09.000 When does that come into the picture?

02:22:11.000 When did it come into the picture, right?

02:22:13.000 When was the first thing conscious?

02:22:15.000 And what is consciousness?

02:22:16.000 Is it just sentience?

02:22:17.000 Is it just being aware and looking out for yourself?

02:22:19.000 Because then deer are conscious.

02:22:21.000 Are rats conscious?

02:22:22.000 Because it seems they're pretty conscious too.

02:22:24.000 It seems like there, I think there's a spectrum to consciousness.

02:22:27.000 And I think that one that we're talking about is the beyond.

02:22:32.000 You know, that like consciousness at next level where...

02:22:36.000 Yeah, it's got to go somewhere, right?

02:22:37.000 It's gotta go somewhere.

02:22:38.000 I mean, look at our brains.

02:22:41.000 Our brains are like a universe in of itself, and they're in the darkness until death.

02:22:49.000 I mean, you can't even...

02:22:51.000 There's no way to really, besides graphs and everything, to really understand the workings of the brain.

02:22:56.000 I mean, it's firing, all this electricity is going off, and these little teeny molecules are doing jobs. 0.99

02:23:02.000 And like we said earlier, sometimes it works great, and sometimes it's dog shit. 1.00

02:23:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:23:06.000 It's really wild.

02:23:07.000 Same person.

02:23:09.000 It's so crazy.

02:23:11.000 And then there's this thing that happens in the brain and in the body, this immune response where they send out this molecule. 0.99

02:23:18.000 It's almost like a Paul Revere of molecules where it lets all the other molecules in the body know that some shit's about to go down. 0.93

02:23:27.000 It's like a warning. 0.97

02:23:29.000 Right, like adrenaline.

02:23:30.000 Like a warning response.

02:23:31.000 Yeah, but like little teeny...

02:23:33.000 There's actual little microscopic things that are doing these jobs.

02:23:37.000 Yeah.

02:23:38.000 Who... 1.00

02:23:38.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:23:39.000 How do they start their day? 1.00

02:23:41.000 Right.

02:23:41.000 Are they waking up like Joe Rogan and going and working out for an hour?

02:23:44.000 You don't even know they're there.

02:23:45.000 No, you don't even know. 0.99

02:23:46.000 That's why I fucking talk to them, bro. 0.99

02:23:48.000 Dude, I get it. 0.98

02:23:51.000 I think it's a good idea.

02:23:52.000 I was joking around, but also being serious.

02:23:55.000 Like what you were saying you could do for plants, why wouldn't you do it for yourself?

02:23:59.000 Why wouldn't you?

02:24:00.000 I mean...

02:24:01.000 Self-help.

02:24:01.000 Everything is made up of things we can't see.

02:24:04.000 Self-love, right?

02:24:06.000 Self-love is the most important thing you can express.

02:24:08.000 And I think...

02:24:09.000 Yeah, if you don't love yourself, why would anyone else?

02:24:11.000 That's where the breakdown in the chain is.

02:24:13.000 This whole podcast we've been talking about trauma and pain and along that lifetime, what determines one person becoming a Joe Rogan or a Joey Diaz or even somebody who goes on to become a politician or doctor, whatever it is.

02:24:28.000 What determines them going from that direction to people who are committing crimes?

02:24:33.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:24:34.000 There's something on a microscopic cellular level that is...

02:24:39.000 Determining these things.

02:24:41.000 Self-love is a tool to use to sort of, I think, help you Put yourself on the trajectory of a positive life.

02:24:53.000 Yeah.

02:24:54.000 No, I agree.

02:24:55.000 It's hard for people to just change gears, right?

02:24:59.000 It's hard for people who aren't healthy to be healthy.

02:25:01.000 It's hard for people who don't eat well to eat well. 0.99

02:25:03.000 It's hard for people who are kind of lazy to get their shit together and be disciplined. 0.99

02:25:07.000 You're going to get tired, you know? 0.99

02:25:09.000 And if you're that person that automatically seeks comfort and nothingness all the time anyway, it's going to be hard for you.

02:25:14.000 Yeah, it's going to be really hard.

02:25:16.000 What are your reinforcements?

02:25:18.000 And what are you reinforcing?

02:25:20.000 This is where I think events are very...

02:25:22.000 There's amazing opportunity in events.

02:25:25.000 And this is a big event.

02:25:27.000 What do you mean?

02:25:28.000 Events like this pandemic.

02:25:30.000 Okay, I was thinking of like Bonnaroo.

02:25:32.000 Terrible.

02:25:33.000 I was.

02:25:34.000 I took it because I miss it.

02:25:35.000 I miss events and going out.

02:25:37.000 I see what you're saying.

02:25:38.000 This pandemic.

02:25:39.000 This moment in time where everything stops.

02:25:43.000 Have you watched any television since then and see people without masks and see people hugging and shaking hands and you go, ah!

02:25:50.000 Ah!

02:25:51.000 Already.

02:25:52.000 We've only been on lockdown for a month or so and already we freak out and we see people hold hands in movies.

02:25:58.000 We see people kiss people they barely know. 0.99

02:26:00.000 You're like, that bitch can't It's changing behavior. 1.00

02:26:02.000 It's that scary. 1.00

02:26:03.000 It's weirding us out.

02:26:04.000 It is scary.

02:26:05.000 Because this is what I've been telling people forever when it comes to places like China.

02:26:10.000 People are like, I can't believe that China's this military dictatorship in 2020. Yeah, and if you're not careful, that could happen here.

02:26:16.000 Oh, absolutely.

02:26:17.000 That could happen anywhere.

02:26:18.000 If you're lazy enough.

02:26:19.000 We have to understand this.

02:26:21.000 If it exists anywhere, it can exist here. 0.52

02:26:23.000 And we get all complacent in this idea that that could never happen to us and we're too fucking smart.

02:26:29.000 Do you know how many people are rethinking their thoughts on safety, on security, on guns, on the food chain, the food supply chain?

02:26:39.000 People are rethinking just basic survival right now.

02:26:42.000 Well, that's scary.

02:26:43.000 And it becomes that sort of desperation factor.

02:26:43.000 Yeah.

02:26:47.000 Isn't this like we were talking about us being so comfortable? 1.00

02:26:54.000 We're due for some shit. 0.99

02:26:55.000 Well, this is it. 1.00

02:26:56.000 We're due for some destruction. 0.99

02:26:59.000 This is a trial run, because this ain't shit compared to a big earthquake. 0.95

02:27:03.000 If an asteroid hits, like there's a big asteroid that's flying by, it's a mile wide, and it's going to fly by Earth soon. 0.97

02:27:08.000 A mile wide.

02:27:09.000 Do you know what a mile wide piece of rock from space would do if it hit us?

02:27:14.000 It's a planet ender.

02:27:15.000 I would think it would leave a dent or two.

02:27:17.000 It's a planet ender.

02:27:19.000 Maybe that's the silver lining.

02:27:21.000 Maybe the silver lining is that we're getting a little bit of a taste of what a real, you know, more devastating global pandemic looks like.

02:27:29.000 And that's going to be the deciding factor on our preparations for something in the future occurring.

02:27:34.000 Yeah, they didn't know, but now they do.

02:27:36.000 So now that they do, there better be plans in place for all those other possibilities, like the super volcano, like the asteroid impacts. 0.99

02:27:45.000 We better reintroduce the pandemic department and get those fuckers their job back. 1.00

02:27:49.000 Well, we don't even know if they really went away. 1.00

02:27:51.000 We're both morons, let's be honest. 0.99

02:27:54.000 We shouldn't even be talking about this. 1.00

02:27:55.000 Come on, you know you're a moron. 1.00

02:27:57.000 Rude, but accurate. 1.00

02:27:58.000 It is very accurate. 1.00

02:27:59.000 I'm a fucking moron. 1.00

02:28:00.000 I am a moron. 1.00

02:28:00.000 You're a moron too. 1.00

02:28:01.000 We're all morons. 1.00

02:28:03.000 I love you. 1.00

02:28:03.000 You're a great moron. 1.00

02:28:04.000 I love you too. 1.00

02:28:05.000 But this is now we understand that the way things have been is not necessarily the way things always will be.

02:28:13.000 Oh, definitely not.

02:28:15.000 Things can get a whole lot weirder. 0.98

02:28:16.000 So we should be fucking careful. 0.96

02:28:18.000 We should be careful, but we should also be grateful. 1.00

02:28:20.000 I think the silver lining hopefully will be us learning how to prepare a little bit more and not argue and debate over these stupid things that don't fucking matter. 0.99

02:28:35.000 Right, but I think the reason why we're going on and on about stupid shit was because we didn't have something like this, because life was too easy. 1.00

02:28:41.000 Yeah, well shit, it's never good. 1.00

02:28:43.000 Complacency breeds contempt, right? 1.00

02:28:45.000 And that's, on a global scale, that's detrimental.

02:28:48.000 I think it's familiarity breeds contempt.

02:28:50.000 Yeah, that as well.

02:28:51.000 Complacency, what does it breed?

02:28:54.000 Complacency, did I just make up a cliche? 1.00

02:28:56.000 Complacency makes fat asses. 1.00

02:28:58.000 And not the pH kind. 0.99

02:29:00.000 Complacency is a dangerous thing.

02:29:02.000 Does anybody say pH fat anymore?

02:29:04.000 That's not real anymore, right?

02:29:05.000 That was like, I think that died in the 90s.

02:29:05.000 Fat?

02:29:08.000 How dare you? 0.99

02:29:09.000 Are we Googling?

02:29:09.000 It says contempt is the first thing, failure, mediocrity.

02:29:13.000 Complacency breeds mediocrity or contempt.

02:29:16.000 Oh, interesting.

02:29:17.000 So familiarity breeds contempt and complacency.

02:29:21.000 Everything is breeding contempt.

02:29:23.000 We're familiar with our complacency.

02:29:28.000 Yeah.

02:29:29.000 Yeah.

02:29:30.000 Well, we need to know what's important, and I think now we have a better sense of it.

02:29:34.000 So the real question is whether or not we can learn.

02:29:37.000 Because people are good at adjustments when they have to make adjustments, but then when things slide back, they get this sort of the thing we were talking about earlier, where you don't want to look at all the possibilities because you will freak out, especially if you're doing edibles.

02:29:51.000 Hell yeah.

02:29:52.000 I've been staring away from the edibles.

02:29:54.000 I mean, I have been doing the blunts, but I think...

02:29:57.000 People will change when their livelihood and survival is threatened.

02:30:01.000 Yes.

02:30:02.000 But will they change to protect themselves?

02:30:05.000 Or will they change to adapt a new way of life to protect the greater good?

02:30:10.000 Because I want to be on an earth of people who are protecting human race, not Bob Johnson.

02:30:17.000 You know what I mean?

02:30:18.000 Oh, not an individual.

02:30:20.000 Right, because then we're just back at square one.

02:30:23.000 Well, if you look at the history of people, we're doing way better now than we were before, right?

02:30:30.000 There's obviously been some peaks and valleys and some mistakes, and we're also aware that you can kind of navigate the future intelligently.

02:30:38.000 And if you navigate the future intelligently, you make less and less mistakes.

02:30:42.000 I think we just now have to reassess the nature of our momentum, the nature of the society that we're creating and what we're trying to do.

02:30:50.000 And also the impact that we're having.

02:30:53.000 I know this is not sustainable for people to not work and stay home for months.

02:30:57.000 It's not sustainable.

02:30:58.000 I'm well aware.

02:30:59.000 But it's also amazing for the earth.

02:31:02.000 If you look at the pictures they've taken about the sky above L.A. I mean, I went on a hike early on.

02:31:08.000 I could see all the way to Pasadena.

02:31:11.000 It smells different.

02:31:12.000 It doesn't smell like butt in gasoline.

02:31:16.000 It doesn't smell like you're being poisoned by a little bit.

02:31:20.000 And you are.

02:31:21.000 It's not the same as smoking, but it's right next door.

02:31:26.000 And that environmental stress, that constant exposure to environmental stress, I mean, that affects your mood.

02:31:33.000 That affects your health.

02:31:34.000 We've got to all move out into the rural area and ruin that.

02:31:39.000 That's what we've got to do.

02:31:40.000 We've got to ruin that and turn it into this. 0.99

02:31:41.000 Where the fuck are we going to go? 0.99

02:31:42.000 Where are we going to go? 0.99

02:31:43.000 We've got to go on another planet with Biden and L. Ron Hubbard.

02:31:46.000 People in South Dakota right now are going, stay out of here!

02:31:49.000 Get out! 1.00

02:31:50.000 People in Arizona are like, fuck! 1.00

02:31:53.000 I know. 1.00

02:31:53.000 Arizona's going to be the new LA. I mean, we're all going to have to move there. 1.00

02:31:56.000 Arizona, you can have a gun.

02:31:58.000 It's easy to get a gun.

02:31:59.000 Cheap house.

02:31:59.000 Yeah, cheap house.

02:32:00.000 You just have to watch out for the cactus that shoot needles at you. 1.00

02:32:03.000 You're literally living inside of Satan's dick for three months out of the year, though. 0.99

02:32:07.000 For three months out of the year, it's 145,000 degrees. 1.00

02:32:10.000 It's a brutal existence.

02:32:11.000 People aren't meant to live in the desert.

02:32:13.000 Everything's dry, crispy, and trying to kill you.

02:32:15.000 You ever hear the noises at night?

02:32:17.000 Everything's trying to kill you.

02:32:18.000 What was that creature?

02:32:20.000 Coyotes and rattlesnakes and occasionally they have jaguars.

02:32:23.000 You know, that's one of the rare places in North America outside of Mexico that we occasionally see jaguars.

02:32:29.000 Yeah, they have jaguars that have been spotted on trail cams.

02:32:32.000 And the biologists, these wildlife biologists, watch it very carefully because there's never been a really strong, at least there's no real history of a really strong supply of jaguars in this country.

02:32:43.000 It's primarily a Central and South American animal, as well as a Mexican animal.

02:32:48.000 Is it something that got loose from Joe Exotics Park? 0.99

02:32:50.000 No, it's a real fucking Jaguar that made its way from Mexico. 0.97

02:32:53.000 I mean, its habitat is just deteriorating and it's cruising around Arizona. 0.99

02:32:57.000 That's wild. 1.00

02:32:58.000 It picked a shit spot. 1.00

02:33:01.000 Imagine being a Jaguar and you're dealing with a drug trade. 1.00

02:33:04.000 You think you're the number one problem. 0.99

02:33:06.000 And then there's these cartels that are sneaking in coke and just fucking shooting at you. 1.00

02:33:10.000 You're like, shit, I thought I was running things out here. 1.00

02:33:12.000 And then you got a cousin who's like, a cousin jaguar who lives up in Oregon. 0.99

02:33:15.000 He's like, bro, you gotta come up here.

02:33:16.000 There's so many trees.

02:33:17.000 It's nice.

02:33:18.000 You can breathe. 1.00

02:33:19.000 Look at this motherfucker wandering around. 1.00

02:33:22.000 I think I have that tattooed on me. 1.00

02:33:23.000 So see the skin down there in the middle side where they're looking at?

02:33:27.000 Yeah, they found out that this one jaguar that they had been spotting on trail cameras had been killed in Mexico. 0.99

02:33:33.000 And what, turned into a fucking rug? 0.99

02:33:34.000 They turned him into a rug, yeah. 1.00

02:33:36.000 How do you feel about that?

02:33:37.000 As somebody who hunts all these like...

02:33:38.000 Oh my god, look at the teeth.

02:33:40.000 Open that.

02:33:40.000 I know.

02:33:41.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:33:42.000 Holy shit, that's insane. 1.00

02:33:44.000 That's what women see right before men go down on them. 1.00

02:33:46.000 That's what it looks like.

02:33:47.000 That picture is amazing.

02:33:49.000 That's beautiful. 1.00

02:33:49.000 You should frame that shit. 1.00

02:33:50.000 I need that picture in my office, right? 1.00

02:33:53.000 Jamie, we need it on metal.

02:33:54.000 That's beautiful.

02:33:55.000 Please.

02:33:55.000 Get that.

02:33:56.000 Find it.

02:33:57.000 Take a screenshot right now.

02:33:58.000 Find that.

02:33:59.000 That needs to be in the studio.

02:34:01.000 It looks like it's in a habitat, though.

02:34:03.000 Don't lose it.

02:34:04.000 It looks like it's an enclosure.

02:34:05.000 That is probably a Republican website.

02:34:07.000 Look.

02:34:08.000 Jaguars are returning to Southern Arizona.

02:34:09.000 You see it biting. 1.00

02:34:10.000 Look at the size of that fucker. 1.00

02:34:12.000 It's in an encampment. 1.00

02:34:15.000 Yeah, that's in a zoo. 1.00

02:34:16.000 But just still, look at the size of that fucker. 1.00

02:34:18.000 Look at this lady. 1.00

02:34:19.000 They're like 200 pounds, those fucking cats. 1.00

02:34:21.000 They're big. 1.00

02:34:22.000 Yeah, they're big.

02:34:23.000 They're solo hunters, right?

02:34:24.000 Well, when you trip balls, apparently, in the Amazon, when the guys do ayahuasca in the Amazon, they see jaguars.

02:34:31.000 Like a jaguar entity comes to you? 0.53

02:34:33.000 You see, like, jaguar spirits.

02:34:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:34:35.000 You need to get away out of your own shelf.

02:34:37.000 I just think...

02:34:38.000 I don't know why it was...

02:34:39.000 I don't know why he did that voice.

02:34:41.000 But I think there's a really interesting theory about why that is.

02:34:45.000 And the theory is that the more people take a psychedelic drug, the more their experience and who they are becomes a part of the psychedelic experience for the next person who does it.

02:34:55.000 Whoa, it goes back to that consciousness. 0.93

02:34:56.000 Right, so when these people are tripping on ayahuasca in a place where they've been tripping on ayahuasca for 10,000 years, they see things that these people who've tripped before them were terrified of, like snakes and jaguars and fucking dragons that come from the sky. 0.92

02:35:10.000 Have you done ayahuasca? 0.95

02:35:10.000 I've only done DMT, which is the chemical version of ayahuasca. 0.95

02:35:15.000 So it's like synthetic.

02:35:17.000 You don't throw up and you don't shit your pants and it only lasts 20 minutes.

02:35:20.000 That's not fun. 0.98

02:35:21.000 I want to shart and not have to explain myself.

02:35:24.000 I'm very interested in doing it.

02:35:25.000 I would have to carve away the time to get ready for it and also make sure I'm doing it with someone who's a reputable person.

02:35:34.000 And then the problem is that it's not legal.

02:35:37.000 It should be legal.

02:35:38.000 I have a friend who's really working on What I mean, it's not legal, so you never know what you're getting.

02:35:44.000 You have to get through word of mouth.

02:35:46.000 You have to trust people.

02:35:47.000 It's always sketchy.

02:35:48.000 It's always sketchy.

02:35:49.000 Whenever you're dealing with anything, whether it's mushrooms or any LSD. Anything that affects the brain.

02:35:55.000 If someone's offering you some incredibly potent thing, and you don't have a chain of command, you don't have a lab this came from, you don't know. 0.59

02:36:03.000 When you get into the world of psychedelic drugs, it becomes very fucking weird.

02:36:09.000 You have to tread lightly. 0.93

02:36:10.000 You have to tread very, very lightly.

02:36:12.000 There's no FDA. There's no FDA for it.

02:36:15.000 And so you're right.

02:36:16.000 You're dependent upon these people who are doing these journeys and trips in their homes.

02:36:21.000 My friend Jackie Stang has a really cool psychedelic platform.

02:36:26.000 I think it's called MeetDelic.

02:36:27.000 And she promotes healthy ways to have a journey.

02:36:32.000 And the one thing she says, because I've talked to her about it, and I'm like, I want to do it, but I'm scared.

02:36:35.000 She always says, safety first.

02:36:37.000 Like, it's so important to be safe.

02:36:40.000 You need a sitter.

02:36:41.000 And the environment needs, like you said, the environment needs to be right.

02:36:44.000 I've never done it, but I would only go off of someone like that who is like, you know, knows the steps.

02:36:48.000 Well, you know, we were talking earlier about people that try to get away from the trauma of childhood.

02:36:54.000 And one of the better ways that people have found is through psychedelic therapy.

02:36:57.000 And psychedelic therapy through...

02:36:59.000 MDMA has helped a lot of soldiers and MAPS is currently working on some studies doing that, but also people that have taken psychedelic mushrooms have had great relief from some of the pain that they've had when they were younger because it kind of can rewire the way your brain works.

02:37:13.000 Now, what's fucked up about it is this book is Chaos.

02:37:17.000 Greg Fitzsimmons buddy wrote it, Tom O'Neil, and he came in and he worked on this book for 20 years. 0.53

02:37:23.000 I've talked about it too many times, so I'll give you the cliff notes.

02:37:26.000 Does that say Charles Manson?

02:37:28.000 Yes.

02:37:28.000 It's all about the 60s and the CIA doing LSD studies and giving LSD to hippies, giving LSD to people to try to change their memory, giving LSD to people to try to make them do things and have no memory of it after they did it.

02:37:42.000 There's a connection between the CIA's LSD study and Jack Ruby, the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald and shot him in that iconic photograph.

02:37:49.000 Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who killed Robert F. Kennedy.

02:37:52.000 All these guys are connected to this psychedelic study, including Charles Manson.

02:37:56.000 I mean, if there's ever a face of someone who's doing drugs...

02:37:59.000 They ran a clinic in the 1960s until this book came out. 0.89

02:38:04.000 CIA ran a fucking free clinic in Haight-Ashbury, and it closed down three months after this book came out. 0.96

02:38:11.000 They were running it for decades. 1.00

02:38:12.000 Some shady shit. 1.00

02:38:14.000 Using people and controlling them. 0.99

02:38:16.000 Well, they were giving people some sort of psychedelic therapy, or they were studying them and giving them psychedelics, or they were doing something.

02:38:23.000 Or using them to motivate.

02:38:25.000 They were doing something to people with LSD, and they were letting Manson out of jail over and over again.

02:38:30.000 He would get arrested, he would violate his parole, they'd let him out again.

02:38:33.000 He was a part of their program. 1.00

02:38:34.000 They wanted him to do fucked up shit. 1.00

02:38:37.000 Like they're researching him like a guinea pig? 1.00

02:38:39.000 They wanted to use him, most likely, to disrupt the anti-war movement.

02:38:44.000 So he represented hippies now.

02:38:46.000 So everybody was terrified of hippies. 0.94

02:38:47.000 Oh, so they were trying to put a bad face on hippies and make them crazy so that they appeared crazy. 0.99

02:38:50.000 But meanwhile, they're the ones creating the crazy. 0.99

02:38:53.000 They were making him crazy. 0.64

02:38:54.000 Yeah, they were creating the crazy.

02:38:55.000 Well, he was in jail for most of his life, like literally half of his life. 0.99

02:38:59.000 This is fucking mind-blowing. 0.99

02:39:01.000 Oh, I'm doing a terrible job of it. 0.99

02:39:02.000 But if you listen to the audio book or you read the book, and the book has like 60 pages of citations and references explaining all the stuff that is absolutely provable about what he's saying.

02:39:12.000 Who funded it?

02:39:13.000 Well, no, it's Harry Ansinger.

02:39:13.000 Henry Assinger?

02:39:16.000 Whatever his fucking name is. 1.00

02:39:18.000 But it's a great book. 0.99

02:39:19.000 But it's about that.

02:39:21.000 It's about rewiring someone's brain with LSD. And that Manson learned how to do this while he's in prison through this CIA study.

02:39:29.000 And then when he gets out, within two years, he got out in 67. By the time 69 comes along, Sharon Tate's dead.

02:39:34.000 They're all living in the mansion. 0.75

02:39:36.000 He's gotten people murder people and write pig on the wall.

02:39:38.000 All this while he's giving them acid.

02:39:40.000 He's giving them acid and pretend to take it, not taking it, or taking just a little and changing the way.

02:39:45.000 Doing like placebo effects?

02:39:46.000 No, no, he wasn't taking it. 1.00

02:39:47.000 So he was pretending he was taking it so he could fuck with them. 1.00

02:39:50.000 So they're taking acid and he's programming them, getting them to have orgies, getting them to do crazy shit, murdering people. 1.00

02:39:58.000 He literally was a part of this program. 1.00

02:40:09.000 Jesus!

02:40:11.000 Jesus! 0.96

02:40:25.000 Dosing people up with acid. 1.00

02:40:27.000 They were doing wild shit. 0.99

02:40:29.000 Safety, kids. 0.99

02:40:30.000 Safety.

02:40:31.000 They had whorehouses that the CIA ran and dosed the Johns up with acid. 1.00

02:40:34.000 They thought they were going in to get laid, and they had a two-way mirror, and these guys would be like fucking sipping tea, watching these people take acid and have sex with prostitutes. 1.00

02:40:41.000 Dude, it's a fucking nightmare. 1.00

02:40:43.000 Imagine. 1.00

02:40:44.000 That sounds like a nightmare.

02:40:45.000 This is what happens when people get control.

02:40:47.000 When people get power and control, you can justify almost anything. 1.00

02:40:51.000 One of the things you can justify is you can justify taking a guy who's just looking to get his dick sucked and you put him in a situation where you're dosing him up with acid. 1.00

02:41:00.000 And you're studying him like a rat. 1.00

02:41:02.000 And he has no idea you're studying him. 0.54

02:41:04.000 He has no idea what happened.

02:41:05.000 You're breaking this poor guy's brain.

02:41:07.000 What happened?

02:41:07.000 Well, Harry came home one day and he just saw demons.

02:41:11.000 He started yelling.

02:41:12.000 He was in the backyard.

02:41:13.000 He starts shooting his gun.

02:41:15.000 Next thing you know, no more Harry.

02:41:17.000 Meanwhile, she doesn't know.

02:41:18.000 Harry got dosed up with LSD. Because on the way home, he'd scrape together a little money.

02:41:22.000 Just give me a little rub and tug real quick. 1.00

02:41:24.000 And he goes into this place and they're like, have a drink.

02:41:26.000 Sit down.

02:41:27.000 He drinks and all of a sudden, doo-doo-doo-doo.

02:41:31.000 12 hours later, Harry comes out.

02:41:34.000 He has no idea what happened.

02:41:35.000 There's no memory of it, but he's a different person now, and they broke his brain.

02:41:39.000 Is that like what happens when people think they're being abducted? 0.96

02:41:41.000 Maybe they just were on the CIA program and they were all fucked up at night? 0.98

02:41:46.000 For sure. 0.99

02:41:47.000 That's such an abuse of power and really an invasion of rights.

02:41:52.000 It's just, well, if you give people power and you don't have anybody standing over them and tells them what to do, and especially if you're doing something in secret, right?

02:42:00.000 If you're doing things in secret, did you ever hear that famous Kennedy speech about secret societies?

02:42:05.000 It's really interesting.

02:42:06.000 I don't think I have.

02:42:07.000 It's really interesting because he was struggling with the CIA and a bunch of other secret sort of institutions and government back then and secret societies.

02:42:16.000 And he was talking about how abhorrent it is to withhold information, how dangerous it is.

02:42:21.000 But this is sort of one of the reasons why it makes sense.

02:42:25.000 Like, if you give people the power, just experiment on these young kids.

02:42:29.000 Just dose them up with acid.

02:42:30.000 Just let's experiment on prisoners. 1.00

02:42:32.000 Let's just go to these prisoners. 0.81

02:42:33.000 Look at this guy.

02:42:34.000 He's been in jail for 12 years. 1.00

02:42:35.000 He's a fucking loser. 1.00

02:42:36.000 Let's just give him acid. 1.00

02:42:37.000 Let's see what happens.

02:42:38.000 Let's see if you can talk him into believing he's Jesus.

02:42:39.000 With no recovery program, no regard for their person.

02:42:42.000 It's so destructive.

02:42:45.000 That's really just terrible.

02:42:47.000 Yeah, this is one of the things in the book that Jamie was freaked out about.

02:42:50.000 He claimed to have achieved the impossible.

02:42:52.000 He knew how to replace true memories with false ones and human beings without their knowledge.

02:42:56.000 Well, I mean, most memories are false, but that's demonic.

02:43:00.000 Without detailing the specific incidents, he put it in layman's terms,"...has been found to be feasible to take the memory of a definite event in the life of an individual and, through hypnotic suggestion, bring about subsequent conscious recall to the effect that this event never actually took place,

02:43:15.000 but that a different fictional event actually did occur." He had done it, he claimed, by administering new drugs effective in speeding the induction of the hypnotic state and in deepening the trance that can be produced in given subjects.

02:43:30.000 It sounds like whoever did hypnosis on you did the opposite of that.

02:43:33.000 Yeah, they did bad hypnosis.

02:43:35.000 That's really so, so evil.

02:43:38.000 That was his job.

02:43:40.000 His name was Jolly West and he did this for decades.

02:43:42.000 This is a government program.

02:43:43.000 Yeah, apparently he was a really friendly guy.

02:43:45.000 It's hard to not have conspiracies.

02:43:48.000 Well, for sure, if you want to go to those conspiracies, they were real.

02:43:53.000 They are provable.

02:43:54.000 I mean, that is just so...

02:43:55.000 It's demonic.

02:43:57.000 Oh, look at this.

02:43:57.000 It sounds like we're reading a movie plot.

02:44:01.000 Look at this.

02:44:02.000 The National Security Archives in Washington, D.C. I found the version of the...

02:44:07.000 Psychophysiological studies of hypnosis and suggestibility that the CIA turned over to Senators Kennedy and Inouye in 1977. West's name and affiliation were redacted as expected, but the CIA's version Was also shorter and watered down in comparison.

02:44:26.000 This is because he found two different documents.

02:44:28.000 He found one in the CIA's warehouse, and then he found another one that was the one that had been redacted.

02:44:35.000 West's documents was 14 pages.

02:44:37.000 This one was five, including a cover page.

02:44:40.000 Most glaringly, there was no mention of West's triumphant accomplishment, the replacement of the memory of a definite event in the life of an individual with a fictional event.

02:44:48.000 So the CIA's papers...

02:44:50.000 Had a different account that showed that he could change people's memories, and then the one that was all redacted and edited didn't have that in it.

02:44:56.000 And these are people who are still, there are still people who are like that, who are running government and who are in politics, who are in charge of passing laws like that.

02:45:07.000 Well, here's the question.

02:45:08.000 It goes so deep.

02:45:08.000 It does go deep.

02:45:09.000 But here's the question.

02:45:12.000 All that stuff is horrendous, right?

02:45:15.000 All that stuff is horrendous.

02:45:16.000 Experimenting on American civilians and dosing people. 1.00

02:45:20.000 Fucking with somebody's mind? 0.99

02:45:21.000 Well, breaking people's minds, too. 1.00

02:45:23.000 You're causing schizophrenia.

02:45:25.000 Oh, 100%.

02:45:25.000 If you're inclined towards it, those events absolutely do contribute to schizophrenic breaks.

02:45:30.000 That's been proven.

02:45:33.000 They've actually talked about that.

02:45:34.000 That's that Alex Berenson stuff that he talked about with marijuana, which is 100% true.

02:45:39.000 In some people, especially with high doses of edibles, they have psychotic breaks.

02:45:44.000 It happens to people.

02:45:45.000 They get schizophrenic.

02:45:46.000 They blow fuses.

02:45:48.000 It does happen.

02:45:49.000 It happens temporarily.

02:45:51.000 I know of people, I know of people, multiple people that have had real problems.

02:45:56.000 I think there's some people that have a sort of a slippery grasp on reality in the first place, and then they start smoking a little weed, getting a little too crazy with it.

02:46:03.000 And reckless with it, yeah.

02:46:04.000 And go deep, go deep, wake and bake every day.

02:46:07.000 You're hanging out with the wrong people too, and it's the wrong environment.

02:46:10.000 Or even worse, you're hanging out with no people because you're on quarantine, just getting high.

02:46:14.000 You don't have any community.

02:46:16.000 That's why it's so important to have...

02:46:18.000 Good people in your life that can get you out of those zones.

02:46:21.000 Because all that is is like a deep, dark mental zone.

02:46:24.000 And if you don't have a lifeguard on hand, you're going to drown in your own mental ocean.

02:46:29.000 Dude. 1.00

02:46:30.000 That shit is horrendous. 1.00

02:46:33.000 And then all those bad ideas are mental ocean sharks. 1.00

02:46:36.000 Dude.

02:46:38.000 And I doubt they're replacing bad memories with good ones.

02:46:42.000 I doubt they're like, hey, remember that time your uncle touched you at the reunion?

02:46:45.000 Here's you winning an Olympic gold.

02:46:50.000 I wonder what the memories were that they implanted in the people.

02:46:53.000 Oh, to create Manson?

02:46:56.000 I mean...

02:46:57.000 Well, I know they definitely have taken prisoners and convinced the prisoner that they committed a crime that they couldn't possibly have committed.

02:47:03.000 You know what this sounds like?

02:47:04.000 People have done that before through horrendous interrogation and torture.

02:47:07.000 They've actually convinced people that they did something when they didn't do it.

02:47:10.000 Well, that's how they persuade people to, you know, to confess.

02:47:14.000 Yeah.

02:47:14.000 And they lead people.

02:47:15.000 Yeah.

02:47:16.000 You know what this reminds me of?

02:47:17.000 What we're talking about, Westworld.

02:47:18.000 Yes.

02:47:19.000 It's exactly what it sounds like.

02:47:20.000 Well, what we're...

02:47:21.000 Recreating memories and...

02:47:23.000 Yeah.

02:47:24.000 I mean, we're going towards that way.

02:47:26.000 We're in Westworld.

02:47:27.000 We're going to be.

02:47:28.000 If we're not yet, I mean, Elon thinks we're there right now.

02:47:31.000 Elon Musk thinks we're in some sort of a simulation.

02:47:33.000 He wants to know what's beyond the simulation.

02:47:35.000 Well, isn't there a percent?

02:47:36.000 I mean, even Neil deGrasse says there's a percent of a possibility.

02:47:40.000 Neil deGrasse.

02:47:42.000 I love him.

02:47:43.000 I have such a crush on him.

02:47:44.000 I'm a sapiosexual.

02:47:46.000 Congratulations.

02:47:47.000 Thank you.

02:47:47.000 Thank you very much.

02:47:49.000 I remember there was a lady who got elected to something. 0.98

02:47:51.000 She's the first pansexual politician. 1.00

02:47:54.000 Openly pansexual politician.

02:47:56.000 Oh, you love everybody.

02:47:56.000 What's pansexual?

02:47:57.000 You're just a hoe. 1.00

02:47:59.000 You're just out there.

02:48:02.000 Rude.

02:48:03.000 Just having a party.

02:48:04.000 But fun.

02:48:05.000 Hey, listen, I'm not knocking being a hoe. 1.00

02:48:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:48:07.000 That sounds like fun.

02:48:09.000 Maybe that should be my reincarnation.

02:48:11.000 I think she basically is allowed to be attracted to everything.

02:48:13.000 That's all joking aside.

02:48:16.000 That must be exhausting.

02:48:17.000 Maybe.

02:48:18.000 Maybe it's not.

02:48:19.000 Sounds kind of great, though.

02:48:19.000 Maybe she can go back and forth from men to women, but she doesn't consider herself a lesbian?

02:48:23.000 She's not bisexual.

02:48:24.000 She's pansexual. 0.99

02:48:25.000 She's just alive.

02:48:26.000 What does pansexual mean?

02:48:28.000 No, I think you're right.

02:48:29.000 I think they love everyone.

02:48:30.000 Let's Google it.

02:48:31.000 I want to know what the Urban Dictionary says, because it's the only way you're going to get a definition.

02:48:34.000 Oh, that's a true definition.

02:48:37.000 Is pansexual a real thing? 1.00

02:48:39.000 I'm going to say you love all walks of identity.

02:48:44.000 You like straight people, you like gay people, you like lesbians, you like post-surgery transsexuals. 1.00

02:48:50.000 Not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity.

02:48:56.000 Exactly. 0.64

02:48:56.000 Well, that just means you can be sexual with a trans person, a straight person, or a gay person. 0.64

02:49:04.000 That sounds... 0.85

02:49:04.000 So basically a very open person. 0.85

02:49:07.000 A lover.

02:49:07.000 She's a hippie.

02:49:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:49:08.000 She's out there doing acid and banging people. 0.98

02:49:10.000 It's a lover. 0.98

02:49:10.000 She's part of the Manson clan. 0.98

02:49:12.000 Equal opportunity blowjobber. 0.99

02:49:13.000 That's what the Manson did. 0.99

02:49:14.000 They were all that pansexual. 0.97

02:49:14.000 That's what they did. 0.97

02:49:16.000 I don't know if that's pansexual or more of a control. 0.92

02:49:18.000 I don't know if they were all pansexual.

02:49:20.000 I think you're born that way.

02:49:22.000 I think it'd be...

02:49:23.000 Unless you're the CIA replacing your memories.

02:49:26.000 Why would you think people were born that way?

02:49:27.000 Because Lady Gaga told me.

02:49:32.000 That was for my sister, Emily.

02:49:33.000 She's such a Lady Gaga fan. 1.00

02:49:35.000 I love my sister.

02:49:36.000 She's got two kids, a husband. 0.75

02:49:37.000 She has Lady Gaga as her screensaver on her phone.

02:49:39.000 Why not? 1.00

02:49:40.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:49:40.000 It's going to be that or a cat. 1.00

02:49:43.000 For Kenny Chesney, her dog's name is Chesney.

02:49:46.000 That's hilarious.

02:49:47.000 Kenny Chesney.

02:49:48.000 That's hilarious.

02:49:49.000 Yeah, I mean, it must be great just to love everybody.

02:49:53.000 Yeah, why not?

02:49:54.000 I'm pansexual in my approach to life.

02:49:57.000 I joke around about it and I'll mock it, but I'm going to mock everything.

02:50:00.000 Things are out there, they're going to get mocked, but it doesn't mean it's not great.

02:50:03.000 We should be able to mock everything.

02:50:04.000 Yes or no?

02:50:05.000 100%.

02:50:06.000 Because the people don't want to be mocked. 1.00

02:50:08.000 Anything that you can't make fun of is bullshit. 1.00

02:50:10.000 It's bullshit. 1.00

02:50:10.000 And it doesn't want to be made fun of because it's afraid of its truth being revealed. 1.00

02:50:14.000 That creepy dude who says he can pray away the COVID? Oh, yeah.

02:50:14.000 Okay?

02:50:18.000 That guy... 0.77

02:50:18.000 He blows on him. 0.77

02:50:20.000 What?

02:50:21.000 COVID. I blow you away.

02:50:23.000 I renege you from my life.

02:50:25.000 I rebook you.

02:50:27.000 When the lady confronts him, the lady reporter confronts him and asks him if he thinks that poor people are demons.

02:50:32.000 I did not see that.

02:50:33.000 His eyes?

02:50:33.000 They got crazy.

02:50:35.000 She asked him if poor people were demons and he looked the most demonic I've ever seen a human look. 0.66

02:50:39.000 The most.

02:50:39.000 I did not say that.

02:50:40.000 And knowing there's a camera there.

02:50:42.000 Look at him.

02:50:43.000 He looks like that thing from Saw.

02:50:47.000 He looks like you would have to fight him to the death if you saw him in your house. 1.00

02:50:50.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

02:50:51.000 That guy's the devil. 1.00

02:50:52.000 That's the irony of people like this. 0.98

02:50:53.000 He uses people's need and want to belong and be understood for his own gain.

02:50:58.000 Look at that suit. 1.00

02:50:59.000 You think it's a fucking polyester suit? 1.00

02:51:00.000 Do you know how on edge you'd be if that guy was like that in your living room? 1.00

02:51:04.000 And he was screaming and yelling and pointing at you in your living room.

02:51:06.000 You'd be like, oh my god, we're fighting to the death.

02:51:08.000 Can you imagine?

02:51:09.000 That's what you would think.

02:51:10.000 You're dating his daughter, and you're going to meet him, and he's...

02:51:12.000 You walk in the house, right?

02:51:15.000 I feel like I would just leave the house.

02:51:17.000 I like it when he's in my house, because I don't have to kill him.

02:51:21.000 Go to the upper left when he's pointing at her.

02:51:23.000 Look at that.

02:51:23.000 That one right there.

02:51:24.000 Don't you say that!

02:51:25.000 Look at his pupils!

02:51:27.000 He looks like if Disney, instead of making the presidents, like those puppets at Epcot Center, they made a demon.

02:51:35.000 Look at those white knuckles.

02:51:36.000 Look how tight he's squeezing his fist.

02:51:38.000 His hand looks like an old, degraded version of an AI. They just were like, well, fuck it. 1.00

02:51:43.000 We're not going to fix it. 1.00

02:51:44.000 Let's just put this hand on him and just send him back out into the world.

02:51:47.000 No, the hand is a real age.

02:51:49.000 Everything else has been doctored up.

02:51:51.000 You're right.

02:51:52.000 They doctored up his mug.

02:51:53.000 He forgot to get a...

02:51:54.000 There's no hand jobs other than the regular kind.

02:51:57.000 He needs to go to his dermatologist and get a peel on that to show his...

02:52:00.000 That's the demon coming out.

02:52:01.000 That's how old the demon is. 1.00

02:52:03.000 Look, it's all hairy and shit. 0.99

02:52:05.000 But what would you do, seriously, if you walked in and his back was to you and he just turned around and he was like shaking a martini and he looked at you, you'd run away? 0.99

02:52:10.000 In my house?

02:52:11.000 Yeah.

02:52:11.000 Depends on whose house.

02:52:12.000 If it's in his house, I leave.

02:52:13.000 I leave.

02:52:13.000 His house, you leave.

02:52:14.000 I get the fuck out of there. 1.00

02:52:15.000 I get out quick. 1.00

02:52:16.000 Do you think he makes love?

02:52:17.000 Pardon me, sir. 1.00

02:52:18.000 Does he make love or hate fuck his wife? 1.00

02:52:20.000 He probably gets fucked only by dudes and they probably come in buses. 1.00

02:52:24.000 They probably come on out with, like, execution masks on. 1.00

02:52:31.000 Fuck that guy! 1.00

02:52:32.000 They just run trains on him. 1.00

02:52:33.000 What's his name?

02:52:34.000 Look at that face.

02:52:35.000 Kenneth Copeland.

02:52:36.000 Kenneth Copeland.

02:52:37.000 I mean, it sounds like a...

02:52:38.000 Have you seen the video of him yelling at the lady?

02:52:40.000 Composer, yes.

02:52:41.000 Play it, play it.

02:52:42.000 I haven't seen it in a hot minute.

02:52:44.000 We'll get pulled off of YouTube if we actually play it and people other than us can hear it.

02:52:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's their content, but...

02:52:51.000 Oh my god, that's when he's rebuking COVID. Who's the other dude?

02:52:55.000 That's his guy who's giving him in the bunghole on Sunday mornings, giving him the lord.

02:52:59.000 I'm picturing large Samoan characters.

02:53:02.000 Like Jason Momoa, but worse?

02:53:04.000 Way bigger. 0.92

02:53:05.000 Yeah, but big, thick guys that are just savages, just ready to lay pipe on that dude.

02:53:11.000 Oh, so you're calling him a bottom?

02:53:13.000 100%.

02:53:13.000 Okay.

02:53:15.000 If I had a gas, not there's anything wrong with that choice.

02:53:17.000 Not at all.

02:53:18.000 I respect that choice.

02:53:19.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:53:19.000 Live your life.

02:53:20.000 Do you, girl.

02:53:21.000 I just think that anybody who's doing that.

02:53:23.000 Look, I don't necessarily think it should be illegal to rip people off and demand money for a jet from poor people. 0.99

02:53:30.000 I don't think it should be illegal.

02:53:31.000 But be honest.

02:53:32.000 Yeah.

02:53:33.000 If you think that you can't be mocked for doing that, someone can't ask you a question because you did say that you didn't want to be on a plane with all those demons.

02:53:42.000 That's why he has a private plane, because the regular people are demons. 1.00

02:53:44.000 Yeah, of course.

02:53:45.000 And so this lady's like, did you really say that? 0.99

02:53:46.000 And he's like, I did not say that!

02:53:48.000 Come on, man.

02:53:49.000 Like, you actually said it.

02:53:50.000 It's like the same thing with Joel Osteen.

02:53:52.000 You know, they're just...

02:53:53.000 He's way less crazy though.

02:53:55.000 Way less crazy.

02:53:56.000 But they have a similar, like, gloss about them.

02:53:58.000 But Joel Osteen is happy.

02:54:00.000 That guy's out there.

02:54:01.000 Is he? 1.00

02:54:02.000 Fuck yes. 1.00

02:54:02.000 Same fucking face. 1.00

02:54:04.000 It should be. 1.00

02:54:04.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:54:05.000 Because they're like, Joel Osteen is not like him.

02:54:07.000 Joel Osteen's legit. 0.99

02:54:09.000 That guy, he's crazy. 0.99

02:54:11.000 He thinks poor people are demons. 1.00

02:54:11.000 Who the fuck says Joel Osteen? 1.00

02:54:13.000 You don't think Joel thinks the same? 0.99

02:54:15.000 No, I think if you're gauging them.

02:54:18.000 If there's a graph of like worst ever preacher to best ever preacher, somewhere along the line, there's got to be a really good person that's a preacher that really is following the word of Christ and is doing it the right way.

02:54:29.000 And if they do get money, they are giving it away to charity.

02:54:32.000 There's got to be.

02:54:33.000 So you think Joel's on the better end of that? 0.99

02:54:35.000 He's closer to that side than he is to the fucking... 1.00

02:54:39.000 There's fucking Kanye. 1.00

02:54:42.000 Okay, already done. 1.00

02:54:43.000 Jesus is king, so shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:54:44.000 Why don't you just read Jesus is King. 1.00

02:54:48.000 Bro, he sells tickets where you can only look at his ass. 1.00

02:54:51.000 They probably cost a thousand bucks. 1.00

02:54:52.000 Look, there's tickets behind him.

02:54:55.000 Look how many people are there.

02:54:56.000 Oh, God sells. 1.00

02:54:57.000 Sex and God sells. 1.00

02:54:58.000 Like, if comedy's done, I'm going to God. 1.00

02:55:00.000 And look at the people that sit behind their ass. 1.00

02:55:03.000 There's like so many people that they stuffed people on the stage with them. 1.00

02:55:07.000 That is so wild.

02:55:08.000 And this is another example of people needing and going towards love.

02:55:13.000 And I'm sure there's obviously a benefit to this.

02:55:15.000 Look at the size of that place.

02:55:17.000 It's just, it's another level of religion that I don't quite understand and my mind can't grasp it because it feels like it's teetering a little bit further away from religion and going into something else, another realm that is the opposite of what religion's meant to be.

02:55:32.000 Well, it's finance.

02:55:33.000 It's a business.

02:55:34.000 If you're selling out that big of a place and you're getting donations from those people too, how many of those people are tithing?

02:55:42.000 How many of those people are giving 10%?

02:55:44.000 If you have 30,000 people giving you 10%, oh my goodness, are you balling?

02:55:49.000 So you're like paying...

02:55:51.000 You're paying God, essentially.

02:55:52.000 So it makes God appear like a mafia, like a member of the mafia.

02:55:58.000 No, no, no.

02:55:59.000 You treat me good.

02:55:59.000 I'm going to give you some money.

02:56:00.000 Just protect me.

02:56:01.000 It's basically like a mafia member.

02:56:03.000 I think the idea is that these guys are the more ballward these guys are, the more they represent God's word.

02:56:09.000 And God's word has allowed him to get a jet and a Rolls Royce.

02:56:13.000 And look at this mansion that was paid for by God's word.

02:56:16.000 God is good.

02:56:17.000 God wants me to have it.

02:56:19.000 And then people see that and it's like sort of, they get pumped up.

02:56:23.000 They're like, God is good.

02:56:24.000 Look what God's done to Brother Joel.

02:56:25.000 And Joel's up there balling out of control.

02:56:29.000 Rolls Royces and private jets.

02:56:31.000 He's just so, I don't know why his face is so taut.

02:56:34.000 Is Jesus hanging onto his ears and riding Joel like Seabiscuit and directing him?

02:56:40.000 Because his face is very intense.

02:56:41.000 He's just on point and focused. 1.00

02:56:43.000 That's how you sell a fucking arena, woman. 1.00

02:56:45.000 He's running towards God. 1.00

02:56:47.000 Girls are always worrying about what the guy looks like. 1.00

02:56:48.000 The guy's selling out arenas with Jesus' word.

02:56:51.000 He's reading a book that was written 2,000 years ago.

02:56:54.000 He didn't even write it.

02:56:55.000 He's reading it out there, giving these sermons, and he's bawling.

02:56:58.000 Look how happy he is.

02:56:59.000 He's like, I'm not even going to get my teeth bleached. 1.00

02:57:01.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:57:01.000 He's laughing. 1.00

02:57:02.000 50,000 people a week, it says he has...

02:57:05.000 Great.

02:57:06.000 How much money is that?

02:57:07.000 That's a lot.

02:57:08.000 That's a lot of money.

02:57:09.000 Plus millions on the internet.

02:57:10.000 I mean, he's like the Chappelle of sermons.

02:57:13.000 Even bigger.

02:57:14.000 He dwarfs us all.

02:57:15.000 He dwarfs Kevin Hart.

02:57:16.000 He dwarfs everybody.

02:57:18.000 Well, hopefully he's spreading love.

02:57:20.000 Hopefully people are getting what they need from that.

02:57:22.000 There you go. 0.99

02:57:22.000 But he looks fucking crazy. 0.99

02:57:23.000 What is his sermons like? 1.00

02:57:26.000 Have you ever listened to them?

02:57:27.000 Oh, no, no.

02:57:27.000 But I mean, he's filling up the 16,000 seat arena about three times if 50,000 people a week are getting in there.

02:57:34.000 Good Lord.

02:57:34.000 So that's quite a few.

02:57:35.000 Well, after the UFC was at T-Mobile, I think the UFC seats 22,000 at T-Mobile, somewhere around that range.

02:57:43.000 And he was there.

02:57:44.000 He was there like after us.

02:57:46.000 He does 22,000 people in Vegas.

02:57:49.000 That's a strange shift of energy.

02:57:51.000 Oh my god, yeah.

02:57:52.000 Like, you know, from a UFC to GOD. That's a strange shift.

02:57:56.000 Have you ever had a show where it felt religious?

02:57:58.000 A show?

02:57:59.000 Yeah, for you where it was so good and you were so tuned in that you got off stage and was like, man, I feel like God right now.

02:58:06.000 No.

02:58:07.000 I've had shows that feel surreal.

02:58:08.000 But life feels surreal.

02:58:10.000 Yeah.

02:58:11.000 My life feels very surreal.

02:58:14.000 But no, never.

02:58:16.000 They felt religious.

02:58:17.000 It's because you're humble.

02:58:18.000 Well, I'm as humble as I can be and still do what I do.

02:58:23.000 You have to have a certain amount of belief in yourself to be able to do things either on camera or on stage or in the moment.

02:58:33.000 You've got to have a certain amount of belief in yourself.

02:58:36.000 I feel like all comedians are insecure narcissists, but you teeter on this line of...

02:58:41.000 You're the only friend I have as a male who you're really well balanced in that area. 1.00

02:58:48.000 Like your ego, I've never seen you lose your shit. 0.99

02:58:51.000 You treat everybody the same. 1.00

02:58:53.000 That's very nice of you, but I've definitely lost my shit. 0.99

02:58:57.000 I'm sure. 0.99

02:58:58.000 I can tell.

02:58:58.000 I mean, you're tattooed from your knuckle to your clavicle.

02:59:01.000 I'm sure there's some shit going on where you've lost. 0.99

02:59:03.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.98

02:59:04.000 But you also respect your boundaries and you aren't afraid to be like, this is my space, I don't need you in it, but with a smile.

02:59:12.000 Well, in this town especially, there's so many people that weasel in and try to weasel into your circle and be your friend and then start asking for things.

02:59:20.000 It's not subtle at all.

02:59:22.000 Yeah, they're like sycophants.

02:59:23.000 It happens so quick.

02:59:24.000 It's like all of a sudden someone's hanging around that's friends with this guy and sees you places and then he wants to get your phone number and then he wants to talk to you about a project.

02:59:31.000 There's so many of them out here that are trying to hustle their way into people's lives.

02:59:36.000 But don't you think, like, I don't know about you, but I see them come a mile away.

02:59:39.000 Yeah, you do, but they're still around.

02:59:41.000 Like, in this town, especially when I was doing television stuff, like, oh my god, television stuff is littered with these people because it's all about, like, making these connections with each other and the relationships that you have with studios and producers.

02:59:56.000 Like, everybody's sort of, like, working around.

02:59:58.000 So it's like, everybody's like, can you introduce me to Tom?

03:00:00.000 Tom at MGM. Do you know Tom?

03:00:02.000 Do you just send him an email?

03:00:03.000 Just an email, Tom, this is a great script.

03:00:04.000 I'd really like to introduce it to you.

03:00:08.000 There's so many of those.

03:00:10.000 There's so many people like that.

03:00:11.000 It's exhausting.

03:00:12.000 It is exhausting.

03:00:13.000 If you don't change your number every now and again, you'll get stuck with them.

03:00:16.000 I love that you do that.

03:00:17.000 Gotta keep moving.

03:00:17.000 I'm ready to change it again.

03:00:18.000 I bet you are.

03:00:19.000 I feel like you're due.

03:00:20.000 I'm due.

03:00:20.000 I should have changed it two months ago.

03:00:22.000 I have two numbers and I change them both now.

03:00:25.000 It's smart.

03:00:25.000 Then you realize who you want to keep in your life.

03:00:30.000 Or who you at least want to communicate with and send your energy to.

03:00:33.000 I can't imagine being like Tom Cruise.

03:00:36.000 I can't imagine.

03:00:37.000 It sounds like you can.

03:00:38.000 Impossible to imagine how you manage all that.

03:00:41.000 That's why the guy's jumping off buildings.

03:00:43.000 He's hoping he falls.

03:00:44.000 You know what helps him manage it?

03:00:46.000 Scientology.

03:00:47.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:00:47.000 That's how he manages it.

03:00:49.000 We need to start a new cult.

03:00:50.000 You and me.

03:00:51.000 Excuse my naiveness in this situation.

03:00:54.000 Is the head man in Scientology still God or is it L. Ron Hubbard?

03:01:00.000 Is the entity that we're praying to God?

03:01:02.000 He's not the head guy. 0.99

03:01:04.000 I mean, they say things like to LRH and they fucking salute him and shit. 0.98

03:01:08.000 But I think they think of him as like a guy who just sort of like brought them the word. 0.99

03:01:14.000 And then the word is the true origin story of human beings with the Thetans. 0.99

03:01:18.000 And they were frozen.

03:01:19.000 They threw him into the volcano.

03:01:21.000 So it's not necessarily the word of God.

03:01:23.000 It's just the word of the aliens that he created in his books.

03:01:25.000 It's an alien thing. 0.99

03:01:26.000 It's like, I think, to paraphrase it and butcher it, I think the idea is that you are, like, using this shell and then you have this thing that's inside of you that really has come from, like, other galaxies and it was released here and now it's trapped inside your body or some fucking wacky shit. 0.98

03:01:45.000 People believe that? 0.97

03:01:46.000 Dude, the writing's so bad, you need to read it.

03:01:48.000 I can't wait to watch Battlefield Earth.

03:01:50.000 I love a reason to watch a movie.

03:01:52.000 Please get high and do a simulcast.

03:01:55.000 Please.

03:01:55.000 You'll have to tell me.

03:01:56.000 You'll have to give me.

03:01:56.000 I'm going to ask you some pointers after so I make sure I nail it.

03:01:59.000 Just do it where it's just you and a bong and Battlefield Earth. 0.94

03:02:04.000 That's what it should be called.

03:02:06.000 Me, a bong, a battlefield. 0.97

03:02:08.000 And just videotape it?

03:02:10.000 Yeah, you sitting there on the couch, crisscross applesauce, bong, and every now and then you're like, oh my god, he just, hold on, shh, shh, you're like, this is so crazy.

03:02:20.000 Movie is so wacky.

03:02:21.000 But that movie is probably a million times better than the book.

03:02:26.000 The book itself, like I'm telling you, his writing was so awful that it's confusing.

03:02:30.000 It's like, how did he do this?

03:02:32.000 And he even wrote, or he was quoted as saying, if you really want to make money, start a religion.

03:02:38.000 Really quoted saying that.

03:02:40.000 He would take pictures of him with, he had a captain's jacket on, a bunch of medals he gave himself. 0.90

03:02:45.000 I mean, it sounds like mental illness.

03:02:47.000 Dude, you have to read Going Clear. 0.69

03:02:50.000 It's crazy.

03:02:50.000 I didn't read it.

03:02:51.000 I did the audiobook.

03:02:51.000 Did you listen to it?

03:02:52.000 I listened to it.

03:02:53.000 It's still reading.

03:02:53.000 It's amazing.

03:02:55.000 Actually, Going Clear, I read at least one or two of the chapters.

03:02:58.000 I actually sat down and read it, but most of it I listened to.

03:03:01.000 It's amazing!

03:03:02.000 It's amazing!

03:03:04.000 Like, can you realize, like, what he was?

03:03:05.000 He was like this guy who was mentally ill who was trying to self-diagnose and then self-heal and then came up with this whole system of, like, Dianetics, this whole system of how to, like, manage your mind. 0.71

03:03:17.000 And, again, for some people, it actually is effective because it gives them a structure.

03:03:22.000 Well, yeah, I was going to say, maybe, you know, the silver lining to his mania is that he managed his mania and then made... 0.99

03:03:30.000 Fucking cash. 1.00

03:03:32.000 Yeah, but he's dead either way. 1.00

03:03:33.000 Yeah.

03:03:34.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what we need to learn.

03:03:35.000 Who gets his?

03:03:36.000 Oh, who knows?

03:03:37.000 There's so much money.

03:03:38.000 Who's in that trust?

03:03:39.000 They're like one of the number one real estate holders in all of Los Angeles.

03:03:43.000 It's creepy when you drive by the main building.

03:03:46.000 Psychiatry kills.

03:03:47.000 It's like, I got a guy with a head thing on, electric.

03:03:51.000 Have you seen that?

03:03:52.000 Yes!

03:03:52.000 Yeah, people that go into there, they don't even know they're going into a Scientology building.

03:03:56.000 They think they're going in for some anti-psychiatry thing.

03:03:59.000 It is a little, you know, the whole thing is misleading.

03:04:03.000 The whole origin of it is misleading.

03:04:04.000 What is misleading?

03:04:05.000 The guy probably believed everything he said. 1.00

03:04:07.000 He's probably out of his fucking mind. 1.00

03:04:09.000 If you really pay attention to who L. Ron Hubbard was, he seems like he was lying constantly. 1.00

03:04:12.000 He was probably a maniac.

03:04:13.000 Was he a result of the CIA chaos? 0.96

03:04:15.000 No.

03:04:15.000 No, he's pre this.

03:04:16.000 He's before all that.

03:04:19.000 But have you ever seen the interview where Tom Cruise is on with Matt Lauer on the Today Show?

03:04:26.000 And Tom Cruise is mad.

03:04:27.000 Brooke Shields is on psychiatric drugs. 0.93

03:04:29.000 Yes!

03:04:30.000 And he's reaching out to her.

03:04:32.000 He's saying what she needs to heal.

03:04:35.000 Yeah, and he's so intense.

03:04:38.000 Dude, he looks zooted on something.

03:04:40.000 Look at his face.

03:04:43.000 It's so intense.

03:04:44.000 I just think he's very adamant about this particular aspect of the Scientology belief system.

03:04:51.000 One of the things is they don't believe in psychiatric drugs.

03:04:55.000 I'm pretty sure they don't believe in any of those, right?

03:04:58.000 But the conversation is so interesting.

03:05:01.000 I wonder if you did a personality trait test of the people who are followers of the Scientology religion, what the common denominator is amongst them.

03:05:10.000 Dude, you really want to see something amazing?

03:05:11.000 You've got to see Tom Cruise's graduation speech.

03:05:14.000 What was that one where he stood on the podium and they gave him the most amazing man of all time medal?

03:05:19.000 They gave him a medal, like a gold medal. 0.99

03:05:21.000 It's the size of a fucking hubcap and it's hanging around his neck like Flava Flav. 0.99

03:05:26.000 And somebody leaked this. 1.00

03:05:28.000 It is fucking amazing. 1.00

03:05:30.000 So the head guy of Scientology, that guy gets in front of him, they salute each other because they're in the fucking army! 0.99

03:05:38.000 They hug like in a crazy like they both probably came there and then Tom Cruise goes up they give him this gigantic dinner plate of a medal And this is like a pump-up speech. 0.95

03:05:51.000 It's like a pump-up speech that was like a Scientology thing.

03:05:54.000 Look at his medal.

03:05:55.000 He won.

03:05:55.000 Most awesome human of all time.

03:05:57.000 And so he's standing there in front of this huge globe behind him.

03:06:02.000 There's this huge image of the earth behind him.

03:06:04.000 This huge seal.

03:06:06.000 Freedom Medal of Valor.

03:06:08.000 Freedom Medal of Valor.

03:06:10.000 It's amazing.

03:06:11.000 Most amazing person of all time medal.

03:06:13.000 Based off of what? 0.99

03:06:14.000 What the fuck ever, you hater. 1.00

03:06:16.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

03:06:17.000 Everything with you is hate.

03:06:19.000 No, I'm just analyzing.

03:06:20.000 But come on. 1.00

03:06:20.000 Imagine how crazy you have to be to stand there in front of these people with this goddamn dinner plate hanging off your neck. 1.00

03:06:27.000 And then at the end, they salute to L. Ron Hubbard. 0.99

03:06:30.000 They look at the picture of him.

03:06:31.000 They go, to L.R.H. And they do like this.

03:06:33.000 It's amazing.

03:06:34.000 It's a secret society that's not secret.

03:06:36.000 There's a photo.

03:06:36.000 There's the photo of L.R.H. What's with the decor?

03:06:39.000 It looks like the inside of Pavarotti.

03:06:41.000 See that?

03:06:41.000 Everyone gets up and salutes to L.R.H. Dude, he looks like the thing from Ghostbusters.

03:06:45.000 The painting.

03:06:47.000 I would like to join just for fun.

03:06:49.000 Hugo.

03:06:49.000 Remember that?

03:06:50.000 See how much they can convince you.

03:06:51.000 What is it?

03:06:52.000 Vigo.

03:06:53.000 Vigo.

03:06:53.000 You know what I'm talking about.

03:06:54.000 How much could they convince you if you had to live like a Scientologist?

03:06:58.000 If you just said, look, I'm going to do a thought experiment, and I'm going to study all their work, and I'm going to be non-critical about all this, and I'm going to live my life, and I'm going to do it for three years.

03:07:12.000 Do you think people have tried to do that probably just like for fun on their own because they're so bored and just thought like well what would happen if they did and like what happens if they get caught?

03:07:19.000 Yeah but you would have to be there.

03:07:21.000 Or if they were desperate.

03:07:21.000 Yeah you'd have to be in the system.

03:07:23.000 What if they just want that was like their last hope and they just were hoping it would help whatever issue they had.

03:07:28.000 I'm sure that's happened both ways.

03:07:30.000 How many people have looked at the success of Scientology though and going I need to do something like this but they never did.

03:07:36.000 Probably a lot.

03:07:38.000 It's like a comedian looking at you being like, I wish I thought of that. 0.99

03:07:43.000 What, being mentally ill? 0.96

03:07:44.000 Being able to talk all day? 0.84

03:07:46.000 Well, no. 1.00

03:07:46.000 I mean, you downplay yourself, but your topics and your jokes, it's the same shit. 1.00

03:07:51.000 No, I got lucky in that there's an actual job for something that just fits in with my rambling curiosity. 0.98

03:07:58.000 So I'm a rambler and I'm curious.

03:08:00.000 So it's like, oh, look at this.

03:08:01.000 There's a job right here.

03:08:02.000 It wasn't even a job before.

03:08:03.000 It's just a recent job.

03:08:05.000 But have you seen Waco?

03:08:07.000 The Netflix thing?

03:08:08.000 Dude.

03:08:08.000 I had no idea I knew about the story.

03:08:10.000 I was young when it went live during the actual time.

03:08:14.000 But watching that, again, there's a certain type of personality that is attracted to having a leader.

03:08:23.000 And it goes back to like, what did you experience in your childhood where you needed that? 0.99

03:08:27.000 But again, the guy always fucks all the wives. 1.00

03:08:29.000 Fucks them all! 1.00

03:08:30.000 And then convinces the guy he's helping him! 1.00

03:08:32.000 I'm not fucking your wife. 1.00

03:08:33.000 I'm helping you out, bro. 1.00

03:08:34.000 Dude, I'm not fucking your wife. 1.00

03:08:35.000 I'm your best friend. 1.00

03:08:36.000 I would never fuck your wife. 1.00

03:08:37.000 My dick was inside of her, but that's different. 1.00

03:08:39.000 I wasn't fucking her. 1.00

03:08:40.000 Jesus was fucking her. 1.00

03:08:41.000 Jesus is testing you and he's strengthening your resolve. 1.00

03:08:44.000 Can you heal from this?

03:08:46.000 Are you going to be able to find what you need from within?

03:08:49.000 And then he would sing terrible songs.

03:08:50.000 And then he'd just disappear through the doorway.

03:08:53.000 Didn't he sing like Green Day?

03:08:55.000 Please don't.

03:08:55.000 I think he did.

03:08:56.000 I think there's a video of him singing Green Day.

03:08:59.000 Davidians? 0.95

03:08:59.000 Is that what they were called? 0.95

03:09:00.000 Davidians? 0.95

03:09:00.000 Branch Davidians. 0.95

03:09:02.000 Waco, Texas.

03:09:03.000 Dude, that was so tragic the way that went down.

03:09:06.000 Ted Nugent lives near there.

03:09:07.000 Of course he does.

03:09:08.000 He probably helped out.

03:09:09.000 He probably goes and jizzes near the location.

03:09:15.000 So there it is.

03:09:17.000 Branch Davidians. 1.00

03:09:18.000 What does that even mean?

03:09:19.000 You know, I almost bought his car.

03:09:21.000 What do you mean?

03:09:22.000 His car was for sale.

03:09:23.000 He had a 1968 Camaro and it was for sale.

03:09:26.000 It's a good year for Camaro.

03:09:28.000 It is a good year.

03:09:28.000 I love Camaros too.

03:09:29.000 From that era.

03:09:31.000 And it was for sale online. 0.98

03:09:33.000 And I saw it, I was like, oh, I'm fucking buying this. 0.99

03:09:36.000 And I picked up my phone, and I went like, and I looked, and I'm like, do I really want that fucking bad juju in my life? 0.98

03:09:42.000 You knew it was his car. 0.82

03:09:43.000 Yes, it was 100% his car.

03:09:45.000 Yeah, certify that it was his car.

03:09:46.000 I'm like, is that bad voodoo? 0.94

03:09:48.000 Yeah.

03:09:49.000 It has to be. 0.99

03:09:50.000 I mean, if we're talking about there being some sort of realm of consciousness and things existing outside of the physical world, there's some bad juju in that fucking car. 0.99

03:09:57.000 That guy was killed by the feds and they burned his family alive. 0.99

03:10:00.000 Alive, dude.

03:10:01.000 And they lied about it. 1.00

03:10:03.000 They shot fire out of the fucking nozzle of the tank. 1.00

03:10:05.000 Women and children. 1.00

03:10:06.000 And drove over the walls.

03:10:07.000 Knew the women and children were inside. 1.00

03:10:09.000 Drove over the fucking walls and lit that place on fire and barbecued those people. 0.99

03:10:13.000 Well, that was a real... 0.99

03:10:14.000 I think a lot's going on there.

03:10:16.000 I think it also was like a breakdown in protocol and how to handle a high, tense situation.

03:10:24.000 I think that's how they've always done it.

03:10:27.000 I just think this time it got caught on tape.

03:10:28.000 That's what I think.

03:10:29.000 I think if there's ever been some sort of situation where people are armed up, look at Ruby Ridge. 0.97

03:10:33.000 There's a bunch of situations in history where they decided to put their fucking boots on the back of someone's neck because they wanted to let that person know they're not going to resist. 0.96

03:10:43.000 And that's one of the things that people do when they're in a position of power. 0.99

03:10:46.000 That's why power is so dangerous.

03:10:47.000 It is dangerous.

03:10:48.000 Because every single time people get this sort of ultimate power, it winds up being abusive.

03:10:52.000 Every single time.

03:10:53.000 With a certain person. 1.00

03:10:55.000 And it becomes the difference between somebody who does good for the world and community and somebody who does evil shit. 0.98

03:11:03.000 It's such a hard job to be a leader of anything, whether it's a leader of California or a leader of the country or a leader of anything. 0.98

03:11:12.000 Being a leader of something.

03:11:14.000 Jesus Christ.

03:11:14.000 Well, every decision you make is scrutinized.

03:11:16.000 And your whole...

03:11:18.000 This platform is built off of lobbyists and people who have invested interest.

03:11:23.000 How do you commit to your own decision and have faith in it?

03:11:28.000 You must have to lose yourself in order to be able to make those decisions.

03:11:33.000 But then how are you able to make decisions without yourself being connected to it?

03:11:37.000 Then you also have to deal with criticism because you have to be able to address people's concerns.

03:11:40.000 So you have to take some criticism and that's probably nonsensical and angry and ridiculous and then some of it that actually is constructive and makes sense.

03:11:49.000 Who do you think was the president who handled that the best?

03:11:51.000 That you've seen in your lifetime?

03:11:53.000 Obama.

03:11:54.000 I think he's the best speaker of all the presidents.

03:11:58.000 Because there's something about Clinton, I didn't like his little fake smile.

03:12:02.000 Yeah, he was smirky.

03:12:03.000 You just knew he blew a load on the dress. 0.95

03:12:06.000 But he still was an amazing speaker.

03:12:08.000 He was still an amazing speaker.

03:12:09.000 He was charismatic.

03:12:11.000 Yeah, and sometimes he would knock it out of the park.

03:12:13.000 But it's just like you know too much about him afterwards to judge him in the most objective way.

03:12:19.000 Isn't it crazy?

03:12:20.000 If I just looked at his ability to speak versus Obama's ability to speak, they're both pretty amazing.

03:12:25.000 They were definitely both amazing.

03:12:26.000 I think Obama had a calming factor.

03:12:29.000 I feel like when other presidents have spoke, just from my...

03:12:32.000 I don't really know a lot about politics or claim to be an expert, but when Donald speaks or other presidents before Obama, it caused anxiety.

03:12:41.000 There was a tense...

03:12:43.000 Yeah.

03:12:45.000 Behavior around it, like the way they spoke was very, I don't know, stress-inducing, but Obama was kind of velvety.

03:12:51.000 He had a way of delivering things and...

03:12:54.000 He felt like he was a guy you could actually hang out with. 0.99

03:12:57.000 Like, I remember seeing him on Bourdain's show, they were in Vietnam, eating and drinking beer, and I'm watching and I was like, that motherfucker can just hang out. 0.99

03:13:04.000 Yeah, like he could walk into any room and make it his room. 0.99

03:13:08.000 But he can hang out in a way that I don't think Trump can hang out.

03:13:11.000 Trump's got to be the center of attention.

03:13:12.000 It's got to be a big deal.

03:13:14.000 Trump's there.

03:13:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:13:16.000 Trump would have to be... 0.99

03:13:17.000 He's not going to hang out with you in some weird fucking restaurant in Vietnam after he's out. 0.99

03:13:24.000 He's not going to do that. 0.99

03:13:25.000 And talk about the flavor notes of the sauce on the pork.

03:13:28.000 He's not going to be able to.

03:13:29.000 Talk about different ethnic foods and different cultures that cook in a different way.

03:13:33.000 It seemed like when Obama spoke, he felt like he was in the moment and present.

03:13:39.000 Like he was aware of what he had to deliver, but was also aware of the way he was delivering it.

03:13:45.000 Trump seems like he's always someplace else.

03:13:47.000 Yeah, and Obama's, I mean, there was a lot of bad policies that were passed during the Obama administration, particularly when it comes to whistleblowers.

03:13:54.000 They were one of the worst on whistleblowers ever.

03:13:56.000 And there's also some real erosions of freedom of speech and of surveillance.

03:14:04.000 Real erosions of that.

03:14:05.000 A lot of drone attacks.

03:14:06.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

03:14:07.000 There was a lot of drone and a lot of fucking innocent people died during those drone attacks. 0.99

03:14:11.000 So there's no president that gets out and just nails it. 0.98

03:14:14.000 No, there's no immaculate presidency.

03:14:16.000 It's a dirty job.

03:14:17.000 It's a dirty job and I don't know if it ever wasn't a dirty job.

03:14:21.000 I mean, look at the...

03:14:24.000 The nature of what it is.

03:14:25.000 You're ruling over people and a lot of different types of people and in so many different laws and states.

03:14:32.000 It's a lot to keep under control and then you have to worry about the types of people who are, you know, on the lower levels of politics and how they're making decisions.

03:14:41.000 You gotta worry about the type of people that want to be president, too. 0.99

03:14:43.000 Who the fuck wants that job? 0.99

03:14:45.000 Who in their right mind? 1.00

03:14:47.000 Why?

03:14:48.000 Obama went in a babe, and he's still a babe.

03:14:51.000 Settle down.

03:14:52.000 He is.

03:14:53.000 Getting a little juicy?

03:14:54.000 No, not juicy.

03:14:55.000 Squirty.

03:14:56.000 A little squirty.

03:14:56.000 A little squirt for Obama.

03:14:58.000 That's my new bumper sticker.

03:15:00.000 No, he clearly took a hit.

03:15:01.000 It showed on him.

03:15:02.000 You know why? 0.76

03:15:03.000 Because I think he read the briefings, and I think he cared, and I think he probably worked some fucking ungodly amount of hours, and I think it probably freaked him out once he got in there and realized how dangerous the world really is.

03:15:13.000 People have wondered, why did he not do what he said he was going to do during his campaign?

03:15:17.000 Why did he change a lot of that once he got into office? 0.99

03:15:20.000 And one of the thoughts is, well, they say a lot of things because they don't really give a fuck. 0.91

03:15:24.000 They just want to get in there, and once they get in there, they're like, trust me, I'm a good guy. 0.98

03:15:26.000 Once I get in there, I'll be fine, but I've got to lie to you and say there's all the stuff that I'm going to do that I know I can never do.

03:15:31.000 The other thing that people say is when you get in there, then they change your perspective, and they show you the briefings, they show you all the terrorist activities, they show you all the danger in the world, and you realize, like, oh, my God. 0.96

03:15:42.000 And you're responsible for making the right calls to zig and zag and make sure you avoid all the fucking trees on the way down the hill. 0.85

03:15:50.000 You're probably right. 0.98

03:15:51.000 That's a very smart way to look at that.

03:15:55.000 I don't think they're evil.

03:15:56.000 It affected him right down to his core.

03:15:57.000 Yeah, they become a different person.

03:16:00.000 You hope they do.

03:16:01.000 If they're human, they become a different person.

03:16:03.000 Yeah, but I mean...

03:16:04.000 You're not who you said you were going to be when you were running for president.

03:16:08.000 I bet a big factor is the access to information and then the talking to the top intelligence agencies and then all the people that are lifetime in White House, in Washington, and they can let you know how everything really works. 1.00

03:16:23.000 You're probably like, fuck. 0.83

03:16:24.000 And then all you're really doing, because if you look at the span of a lifetime and then a span of a president being in office, if he gets re-elected, there's so many things for you to address that... 1.00

03:16:35.000 How do you even get to doing all of the things on your daily to-dos?

03:16:40.000 You end up spending more time talking about the policies as opposed to actually putting them into play.

03:16:46.000 It's so hard to check all those boxes.

03:16:48.000 Well, that's the case with, I think, all kinds of government.

03:16:50.000 And that's one of the reasons why I'm very patient about this whole reopening the government thing.

03:16:57.000 Not that I don't think we should do it eventually, but I look at it like a battleship.

03:17:01.000 And I think, I don't think this battleship can make quick turns.

03:17:06.000 I mean, I think it shut off real quick and freaked everybody out, and there's been a lot of crazy adjustment.

03:17:13.000 But I think the battleship is still turning really slowly.

03:17:17.000 And to get it to a point where you're going to maneuver it into the harbor because you're back to work again...

03:17:24.000 Woo! 0.99

03:17:24.000 How's that going to look? 0.99

03:17:25.000 Is that just going to be wide open, back to work again?

03:17:28.000 And what do we do if the virus flares up again?

03:17:30.000 Are we going to be able to accept the fact that the data shows that it's not as dangerous?

03:17:34.000 Or are we going to look at it and say, yeah, it's not as dangerous, but is it not as dangerous because we quarantined everybody?

03:17:41.000 Right, we flattened that curve.

03:17:42.000 Which is probably the truth.

03:17:43.000 Yeah, which is probably the truth.

03:17:44.000 It's probably not as bad as they thought it could be or would be or were worried that it would be, but maybe it still needs to be something that we need to stay away from.

03:17:53.000 I don't know.

03:17:54.000 I think if it doesn't turn out to be as bad as everyone thought...

03:17:59.000 Then we're learning that something worse is going to come and we need to...

03:18:04.000 We're learning if something worse comes.

03:18:06.000 Yes, if and when something worse comes, that we need to improve our equipment supplies and our standard mode of protocol and how we're reacting to these things in a system level.

03:18:20.000 But now we know.

03:18:20.000 You know what makes me happy?

03:18:21.000 Honestly, legitimately makes me happy, is that most people complied.

03:18:26.000 Most people shut down their businesses. 0.90

03:18:29.000 Most people stayed the fuck home. 0.95

03:18:31.000 It's not like people were rebelling. 0.98

03:18:34.000 For a while.

03:18:34.000 But no, but they still have done it for over a month, which is a crazy thing.

03:18:38.000 To tell people to not go anywhere and not go to work for a month and most people comply, that's pretty fucking amazing.

03:18:46.000 This is the first thing I've done in quarantine that was outside of just walking my dogs and maybe going to the grocery store with my man once in a while.

03:18:53.000 When you guys shop, do you stock up?

03:18:56.000 Kind of, but it's hard to stock up when you eat.

03:18:58.000 I eat perishables, so it's hard to stock up on perishables. 0.99

03:19:01.000 You've got to eat bullshit food that's preserved. 0.99

03:19:04.000 That stuff affects my mood. 1.00

03:19:06.000 Rice and beans.

03:19:07.000 Gross.

03:19:08.000 Mac and cheese. 0.99

03:19:08.000 Keep it in big old dumpsters. 0.99

03:19:11.000 Big old garbage cans full of rice and beans.

03:19:13.000 If you had a garbage can full of rice, how many years would it take you to eat that?

03:19:17.000 A long...

03:19:18.000 If you ate rice every day...

03:19:20.000 Probably a long, long time.

03:19:22.000 How much could you live on rice and butter?

03:19:25.000 If you just had rice and butter.

03:19:26.000 I feel like that's all kids eat up until they're 10 years old.

03:19:30.000 No, they have hot dogs.

03:19:31.000 Yeah, they have hot dogs chopped up in there. 1.00

03:19:33.000 If you're over 12 and you eat hot dogs with ketchup, fuck off. 1.00

03:19:37.000 It's gross. 1.00

03:19:37.000 It's supposed to be mustard, you weirdo. 1.00

03:19:39.000 Hot dogs are one.

03:19:41.000 You're right.

03:19:41.000 It should be mustard.

03:19:42.000 It should be mustard.

03:19:43.000 And the bun should be toasted just a little bit.

03:19:45.000 That's not bad.

03:19:46.000 Not a bad thing.

03:19:47.000 A little toast on the bun.

03:19:47.000 But I'll take sauerkraut every time if it's offered.

03:19:49.000 Some relish?

03:19:50.000 I don't like relish. 1.00

03:19:51.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

03:19:52.000 That's candy. 1.00

03:19:52.000 Rude. 1.00

03:19:53.000 You stay on your side of the table.

03:19:54.000 I'll stay on mine.

03:19:54.000 Just eating pickled candy.

03:19:55.000 It's all sweet and everything. 0.99

03:19:57.000 You're fucking up the hot dog. 1.00

03:19:58.000 Is that your, like, junk food? 1.00

03:19:59.000 Like, what is your ultimate junk food?

03:20:00.000 I do love hot dogs. 0.99

03:20:01.000 I fucking love a hot dog. 0.99

03:20:02.000 I love in New York City what Joey Diaz calls a dirty water hot dog. 1.00

03:20:06.000 Yes, dirty water dogs. 0.95

03:20:07.000 Those dirty water hot dogs.

03:20:08.000 That's what they call them there.

03:20:08.000 They snap when you bite into them.

03:20:10.000 I prefer the kosher dogs.

03:20:11.000 Those are the best.

03:20:12.000 Aren't they just prayed over?

03:20:14.000 Yeah, well, they slaughter them differently, but if you have, like, there's a couple of different companies.

03:20:19.000 I didn't know they were slaughtered differently.

03:20:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:20:21.000 That's the whole thing of something being kosher.

03:20:23.000 A rabbi has to be there, and it's actually a really bad way for the cow to die. 1.00

03:20:27.000 Because he knows. 1.00

03:20:27.000 He's like, oh, fuck, this guy's here. 1.00

03:20:29.000 They hang them upside down and cut their throats. 1.00

03:20:31.000 Oh, man. 1.00

03:20:32.000 See, look, I try and live my life...

03:20:34.000 Make a tasty dog, though.

03:20:35.000 Make a tasty hot dog that way.

03:20:36.000 It does sound really juicy.

03:20:38.000 I try and live my life in a, you know, where I'm...

03:20:40.000 Being as good of a person as I can, but burgers are so good.

03:20:45.000 They're so good.

03:20:47.000 They're so good.

03:20:48.000 So I'm not a bad person because I like a burger.

03:20:51.000 Do you want some wild elk meat where you cook some more? 1.00

03:20:53.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

03:20:54.000 Oh my god, my man was like, you gotta get some elk meat. 1.00

03:20:56.000 Alright, I got it for you.

03:20:57.000 I got it for you.

03:20:58.000 Dude, we've done almost three hours and a half.

03:21:02.000 Oh wow.

03:21:02.000 Hasn't it been?

03:21:03.000 Like three and a half hours?

03:21:04.000 We've covered a lot of topics.

03:21:05.000 What's the number?

03:21:05.000 What are we at right now?

03:21:07.000 322. Wow.

03:21:07.000 Dude.

03:21:08.000 Dude.

03:21:09.000 Dude, that blunt really kicked us off.

03:21:11.000 I was a little scared at first.

03:21:12.000 I was like, I'm a little too high.

03:21:13.000 I'm going down this hill.

03:21:14.000 I can't stop.

03:21:17.000 No, you're a natural.

03:21:19.000 Well, it's not even an interview.

03:21:20.000 It's a conversation.

03:21:20.000 That's why this podcast is so good.

03:21:23.000 Well, it can only be good if I have friends like you.

03:21:25.000 You're sweet.

03:21:25.000 No, you are.

03:21:26.000 No, I really appreciate that.

03:21:27.000 I appreciate you.

03:21:28.000 I really do.

03:21:29.000 You're one of my favorite people.

03:21:30.000 I always love hanging out with you.

03:21:31.000 We have a lot of fun at the store.

03:21:33.000 It's always fun to do these with you.

03:21:34.000 And you're real.

03:21:35.000 That's what I like.

03:21:35.000 I think real recognizes real as cheesy as that is.

03:21:38.000 Are we rappers now?

03:21:39.000 No, we're just humans expressing our hearts.

03:21:43.000 Real recognizes real.

03:21:44.000 But the one thing I realized in this quarantine, because I've sat more in the fan seat because I'm not performing as much, so I'm experiencing it from the other side and how important your show and your podcast is to the fabric of society.

03:22:00.000 Comedians always talk about this.

03:22:01.000 That is a preposterous thing to say.

03:22:02.000 No, it's not, Joe.

03:22:03.000 It's preposterous.

03:22:05.000 You are important because of the very subject matters that you have on this show.

03:22:09.000 Well, sometimes I can get lucky and get a guy like Michael Osterholm on and that was the guy that alerted everybody to how bad this was really going to be.

03:22:15.000 Right.

03:22:17.000 Was he the CDIC guy?

03:22:19.000 No, he's the guy that's an infectious disease expert that wrote this book, Deadliest Enemy.

03:22:23.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

03:22:23.000 And he was on and everybody went, holy shit. 0.99

03:22:25.000 Because everybody's like, should we take this seriously? 0.99

03:22:27.000 Is this anything?

03:22:28.000 And then he did this podcast and then like four hours later I got a call from Dana White. 0.99

03:22:32.000 He's like, dude, what the fuck? 0.99

03:22:34.000 He goes, that podcast has freaked everybody out. 0.99

03:22:37.000 Sid Rapp, right?

03:22:38.000 Center of Infectious Disease Research and Protocol?

03:22:41.000 No, he's from the University of...

03:22:42.000 Yeah, Minnesota, but a couple other things.

03:22:45.000 I've heard of him.

03:22:46.000 Oh, you're right.

03:22:46.000 You're right.

03:22:47.000 Sid Rapp.

03:22:47.000 That's exactly...

03:22:48.000 Look at you, smarty pants.

03:22:49.000 Oh, you know, I'm like you.

03:22:50.000 I like information.

03:22:52.000 It's on his little note that he wrote for me.

03:22:53.000 No, but maybe it scares you to hear that or not. 1.00

03:22:55.000 You're just fucking around. 0.99

03:22:56.000 But, like, there's a few... 1.00

03:22:58.000 There's a gap in availability with information and, like, fake news and all that shit. 0.97

03:23:04.000 Your show is important because you... 0.55

03:23:07.000 You have an unbiased approach to who you have on and it's just a wide spectrum of information and it's a great place for people to have an area where they can come and learn from things they may not really agree with.

03:23:20.000 Well here's where I'm really lucky.

03:23:21.000 Where I'm really lucky is that there's something that I'm doing that reaches this insane number of people but also has no one telling me how to do it. 0.99

03:23:27.000 Fuck yeah. 0.96

03:23:28.000 So there's no one telling me that I can't get this guy on or don't get this author on. 1.00

03:23:32.000 Nobody gives a fuck about this book. 0.85

03:23:33.000 We've got Rob Lowe's coming in or whoever. 0.96

03:23:35.000 They'll decide who your guests are.

03:23:37.000 There's no network dude saying no to Alex Jones.

03:23:39.000 Yes, exactly.

03:23:39.000 Because of what it would do to your fans and your ratings.

03:23:41.000 Yes, exactly.

03:23:42.000 And also fighters.

03:23:44.000 What are you going to talk to them about?

03:23:45.000 Who are the fighters?

03:23:47.000 I mean, what about these authors you've had on?

03:23:48.000 Believe me, I have friends who are doing their podcasts with a professional production group and they're having these kind of conversations. 0.98

03:23:53.000 Fuck And they're saying, they go, dude, I feel like I'm working on a TV show. 0.99

03:23:56.000 This is crazy. 1.00

03:23:57.000 Like, I'm like, just let me do the thing.

03:23:59.000 And if this episode's not so good, I'll do better, and then next time I'll be better.

03:24:04.000 But let me have on the people that I can, A, get, people that are willing to do it, and then P, B, I'm actually interested in.

03:24:10.000 That's what's going to create the good content. 0.99

03:24:12.000 I need to be interested in this shit. 0.98

03:24:13.000 The only way I'm going to be interested in what you're talking about is if you're actually interested in it. 1.00

03:24:18.000 If you're talking about some shit, I mean, you could be talking about playing the piano. 0.97

03:24:21.000 I don't know jack shit about playing the piano, but if you're really into it and I hear people talk about it, I get fascinated. 0.99

03:24:27.000 I was listening to this conversation about Go, about playing that game Go and how complex that game is and about this is one of the reasons why that deep blue computer beating Go Beating a really top-level world champion Go player is so extraordinary because this is an incredibly creative game that's really complicated. 0.97

03:24:46.000 And I don't know shit about Go, but I was riveted.

03:24:50.000 Well, I was just riveted and you explaining it. 0.98

03:24:53.000 My mouth was open.

03:24:54.000 I was like, whoa!

03:24:55.000 I think passion definitely is an alluring...

03:24:57.000 Yes, for all of us. 0.99

03:24:58.000 It's a defining factor for creativity, and that's where we've got to just take control of what we want to do and just put it out there and fuck censorship and fuck what people think. 0.98

03:25:07.000 If you're passionate about it, then that's all that matters. 0.98

03:25:10.000 Jesse May, tell everybody about your show. 0.96

03:25:12.000 Oh, it's called Sharp Tongue Podcast, and I talk about a lot of shits, things I like to listen to and like to talk about, subjects that matter to me. 0.90

03:25:20.000 Will you consider my offer to do that simulcast while a bong? 1.00

03:25:25.000 Please do, for your fans. 1.00

03:25:27.000 Fuck yes! 1.00

03:25:27.000 With a bong, you, Battlefield Earth, and a couch. 1.00

03:25:31.000 Absolutely, I will, as long as you get me that elk meat.

03:25:34.000 Jessie Mae! 0.86

03:25:35.000 I rebuke you!

03:25:35.000 Thank you, my friend.

03:25:36.000 I love you.

03:25:36.000 I love you, too.

03:25:37.000 Always good to see you.

03:25:38.000 Bye, everybody.

03:25:40.000 Yay.

03:25:41.000 Okay.

03:25:42.000 That was awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 29, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1466 - Jessimae Peluso

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