The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1484 - Reggie Watts

00:00:01.000 No better person to be here at the end of the world than you, Reggie Watts.

00:00:05.000 No finer human being to share this spectacular, chaotic time.

00:00:10.000 Thanks for being here, brother.

00:00:11.000 Thank you, man.

00:00:12.000 My pleasure.

00:00:13.000 Thanks for having me.

00:00:13.000 I'm glad I made it.

00:00:14.000 You were saying, let's do all the things.

00:00:16.000 Let's do the pandemic.

00:00:17.000 Let's do the riots.

00:00:19.000 Everything's happening at the same time.

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:21.000 We're going to space.

00:00:23.000 We're in space.

00:00:24.000 We made it to space.

00:00:25.000 We just need like some kind of a meteor.

00:00:28.000 Like a meteor that's going to be here in like a month.

00:00:32.000 But we have to decide what to do.

00:00:33.000 Well, it would be rioting.

00:00:35.000 We'd be out of control.

00:00:36.000 Yes.

00:00:37.000 Apparently, according to Nick Swartzen, there's some crazy UFO sightings over Idaho.

00:00:42.000 What?

00:00:42.000 I haven't heard anything about this, but he said there's some nutty UFO sightings over Idaho.

00:00:47.000 They might be coming in to end this experiment. 1.00

00:00:50.000 They might be like, you fucking crazy chimp. 1.00

00:00:54.000 We tried. 1.00

00:00:55.000 We tried to let you guys sort it out, but you're not sorting out shit. 1.00

00:00:59.000 You guys are getting worse. 1.00

00:01:00.000 I know.

00:01:01.000 I remember I was asked a question like, what do you think humanity will have?

00:01:06.000 If there was on a gravestone, what would it say on humanity's gravestone?

00:01:11.000 And I said, well, we tried.

00:01:16.000 He gave the old college try.

00:01:18.000 Yeah, we gave it a shot.

00:01:19.000 We tried.

00:01:20.000 We really tried.

00:01:20.000 It's such a strange time, man.

00:01:22.000 And it keeps getting stranger.

00:01:25.000 It's like, did you see that in India, the monkeys stole the coronavirus samples from the lab? 0.99

00:01:30.000 Yes.

00:01:30.000 Totally.

00:01:31.000 A gang of monkeys that were like, give me that.

00:01:34.000 And they gave it to them.

00:01:35.000 But the funny thing is, they didn't get into it, so they actually were able to keep the specimens intact.

00:01:41.000 Oh, really?

00:01:41.000 Which I thought was kind of crazy, yeah.

00:01:43.000 Oh, I wonder what the monkeys thought it was.

00:01:45.000 I don't know.

00:01:46.000 They were probably just like, well, the way they're holding it looks important.

00:01:49.000 I better take it.

00:01:50.000 Yeah, well, they do that, apparently.

00:01:51.000 And then you can give them food and they'll give it back to you.

00:01:54.000 They'll make deals.

00:01:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:55.000 Oh, the barter?

00:01:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:57.000 They make deals.

00:01:58.000 Depending on the monkeys, depending on the territory.

00:02:00.000 But if you're used to deals with people...

00:02:01.000 That's so...

00:02:02.000 Yeah.

00:02:03.000 Oh, they're so smart, man.

00:02:04.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:02:04.000 They're, like, really dumb people. 1.00

00:02:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:02:07.000 You know?

00:02:07.000 Yeah, which is saying a lot.

00:02:08.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:02:09.000 Like, dumb people. 1.00

00:02:10.000 Because they'll fucking... 1.00

00:02:10.000 Did you see the one where the monkey ran, used the motorcycle, and rode up to the baby and stole the baby? 1.00

00:02:17.000 What?

00:02:18.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:02:19.000 Are you serious?

00:02:21.000 You must pull this one up.

00:02:23.000 Bro, it is the crazy...

00:02:24.000 I don't...

00:02:24.000 I think it was in...

00:02:25.000 I don't want to say Indonesia.

00:02:26.000 It was also on a leash.

00:02:27.000 I don't know if you noticed that.

00:02:28.000 The monkey was on a leash?

00:02:29.000 Yeah, somebody had him, like, buy...

00:02:30.000 That's why it came back so fast.

00:02:32.000 Oh.

00:02:34.000 But it was throttling, though?

00:02:36.000 It was like...

00:02:37.000 Yeah.

00:02:39.000 The monkey rode a motorcycle down this alley.

00:02:42.000 Two of these people that were sitting there grabs a baby and starts dragging the baby away.

00:02:47.000 Watch this.

00:02:47.000 Here it goes.

00:02:48.000 See, here's the monkey on the motorcycle.

00:02:51.000 Hold on, do it from the beginning.

00:02:52.000 I did, I did.

00:02:53.000 He rode up on a motorcycle?

00:02:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but do it from the beginning so he can see it.

00:02:58.000 Watch this.

00:02:58.000 See?

00:02:58.000 On the motorcycle.

00:03:01.000 Pulls up, jumps off, grabs that baby. 0.96

00:03:04.000 Just grabs him and is pulling the baby away. 0.99

00:03:06.000 I mean, first of all, how fucking strong are monkeys? 0.99

00:03:09.000 Yeah, they're really strong. 0.99

00:03:10.000 I like how casual the dude is, though.

00:03:13.000 The guy is like, hey, try not to have your monkey take my baby away.

00:03:17.000 Jamie, where do you see this leash?

00:03:18.000 I don't see a leash.

00:03:19.000 It's getting dragged away?

00:03:20.000 No.

00:03:20.000 The monkey's getting dragged away.

00:03:21.000 It's not walking away.

00:03:22.000 Oh! 0.60

00:03:23.000 Oh! 0.60

00:03:24.000 Watch the monkey. 0.98

00:03:25.000 It's getting dragged, too.

00:03:26.000 Oh, it's just holding...

00:03:27.000 He's holding on to the baby, and he's being dragged.

00:03:29.000 Is that 100% sure?

00:03:30.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:03:32.000 It's not walking away with the baby.

00:03:34.000 Yeah, because he's being yanked, and he's trying to go for the kid.

00:03:37.000 So the guy's trying to probably get him away from the kid.

00:03:39.000 That's insane.

00:03:41.000 And that's probably why the guy's so casual, too.

00:03:42.000 I mean, I still don't know why he's being casual about that, but...

00:03:46.000 Wow. 1.00

00:03:48.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

00:03:49.000 That's so terrifying. 1.00

00:03:50.000 And you know that kid's gonna grow up and go like, yeah, that happened, you know, a lot of stuff happens. 0.99

00:03:54.000 That makes sense, because otherwise, how the fuck would a monkey know how to ride a motorcycle if somebody had to teach that monkey? 0.99

00:03:58.000 Definitely. 0.99

00:03:59.000 There's not like monkeys going like, gosh, someday I can't wait to ride a motorcycle.

00:04:03.000 But maybe if monkeys saw, like, it's a small motorcycle, too, right?

00:04:06.000 It's like a little kid's motorcycle.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, like, probably electric.

00:04:09.000 If someone saw, like a monkey saw a person do something, a monkey could probably copy it.

00:04:15.000 Sure, sure.

00:04:16.000 There's a photo, I don't know if you've ever seen it.

00:04:18.000 Monkeys see, monkey do.

00:04:19.000 That stuff's good, right?

00:04:20.000 Yeah, this stuff is really good. 1.00

00:04:21.000 Kilcliffe's the shit. 1.00

00:04:22.000 25 milligrams of CBD and it's delicious. 1.00

00:04:26.000 There's a photograph, a famous photograph of a orangutan that is spearfishing.

00:04:31.000 And it learned how to do it by watching people.

00:04:34.000 Look at this monkey!

00:04:38.000 He's getting after it.

00:04:39.000 Oh my gosh, that's so cool.

00:04:42.000 Wow.

00:04:42.000 That's so rad.

00:04:44.000 It's in Asia? 0.85

00:04:45.000 Indonesia.

00:04:46.000 So it is Indonesia.

00:04:47.000 I think that's what they were saying the other one was.

00:04:50.000 See if you can find the photo of the orangutan that's spearfishing.

00:04:55.000 So it's hanging from a branch with a spear and sticking it into the water to stab a fish, just like it's seen humans do.

00:05:02.000 Because that's how the people fish there. 0.81

00:05:04.000 Right.

00:05:05.000 So the orangutans are like, huh, I think I got that.

00:05:07.000 I think I got it.

00:05:08.000 They're a wild orangutan.

00:05:10.000 Spearfishing.

00:05:10.000 That's so crazy to me.

00:05:12.000 Well, they've said that they believe that primates, particularly some monkeys and some chimps, are in the Stone Age now.

00:05:20.000 I see, I see, I see.

00:05:21.000 They're starting to use tools.

00:05:22.000 They're entering into the Stone Age.

00:05:24.000 See, look at that photo.

00:05:26.000 Wow.

00:05:26.000 How dope is that?

00:05:28.000 Wow.

00:05:28.000 That's crazy!

00:05:30.000 Ah, that's amazing.

00:05:30.000 Look how he's hanging with his feet and his hands.

00:05:33.000 Yeah, man.

00:05:34.000 And just stabbing into the water at fish.

00:05:36.000 Planet of the apes, man. 1.00

00:05:37.000 Fuck! 1.00

00:05:37.000 It's happening. 1.00

00:05:38.000 Well, look, we've got to think.

00:05:40.000 I mean, if you believe in evolution, and I do.

00:05:43.000 I do, too.

00:05:44.000 We were that.

00:05:46.000 Yeah.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, we were some form of that.

00:05:50.000 Something happened.

00:05:52.000 Something happened that caused us to divert.

00:05:53.000 What's going to happen if they start talking to us?

00:05:56.000 I don't know, but you know something we're gonna figure out some kind of a computer that's able to like read every tiny micro movement and interpret it right into words, right?

00:06:04.000 You know, and they'll be like mood and then just words.

00:06:07.000 Yeah, like, oh, I think it's saying this and it's just gonna get better and better and better What was that gorilla that they taught sign language was her name?

00:06:16.000 Was that Jane Goodall?

00:06:18.000 She was the one and she used sign language with primates.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, but there was one that was really good at it.

00:06:26.000 Oh, in the zoo?

00:06:28.000 I don't know if it was in the zoo or if it was in some sort of a research center.

00:06:31.000 I see.

00:06:32.000 But there was one gorilla that could really talk up a storm.

00:06:35.000 Like had like pretty...

00:06:38.000 Cocoa?

00:06:39.000 Cocoa, that's right.

00:06:39.000 Oh yeah, Cocoa, that's right.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, had conversations with sign language.

00:06:43.000 Whew.

00:06:43.000 That's so heavy.

00:06:45.000 I know.

00:06:46.000 Yeah, look at this.

00:06:47.000 Oh, Robin Williams hung out with her?

00:06:48.000 Whoa.

00:06:49.000 Hey, Mr. Rogers.

00:06:49.000 Aw, Mr. Rogers.

00:06:52.000 Imagine...

00:06:52.000 Whoa, look at her.

00:06:53.000 Look at her head. 0.74

00:06:54.000 I mean, imagine if...

00:06:57.000 Yeah, it's so crazy.

00:06:58.000 Have you ever seen the Humanzi?

00:07:01.000 No.

00:07:01.000 Oh, I'm going to blow you away.

00:07:03.000 There was this one weird chimp that they were really confused about it.

00:07:08.000 They actually thought it might be a hybrid between a human and a chimp.

00:07:11.000 Because I want to say this was like the 50s or the 60s.

00:07:14.000 It was really freaky.

00:07:16.000 And this lady kept it. 0.85

00:07:18.000 And I think they eventually had to bring it to some sort of a rescue center because it developed a very unhealthy sexual relationship with this lady. 1.00

00:07:26.000 Oh, wow. 0.99

00:07:27.000 It wanted a fucker and was real jealous of other people coming by. 1.00

00:07:31.000 What? 1.00

00:07:32.000 Yeah, that's what happens.

00:07:33.000 That's crazy.

00:07:33.000 Of course.

00:07:34.000 Of course.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, territorial.

00:07:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:36.000 They say that's what happened to that lady that had that big chimp in Connecticut. 1.00

00:07:39.000 Remember that?

00:07:40.000 Yes.

00:07:41.000 When it bit her friend's face off?

00:07:42.000 Yes. 0.99

00:07:43.000 Her friend was cock-blocking. 0.98

00:07:45.000 Whoa! 0.97

00:07:46.000 Heavy. 1.00

00:07:46.000 And she might actually fuck that chimp, because she used to sleep in the bed with it, and she gave that chimp Xanax and red wine. 1.00

00:07:53.000 Which, probably not... 1.00

00:07:55.000 This Humanzy thing? 0.99

00:07:56.000 Yeah.

00:07:57.000 Humanzy.

00:07:58.000 I... can't find accuracy of it.

00:08:02.000 It says there was an unsuccessful attempt to create such a thing.

00:08:06.000 No, no, no.

00:08:06.000 It is not.

00:08:08.000 It's just a chimp. 1.00

00:08:09.000 It's just a weird-looking chimp.

00:08:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:08:11.000 But one of the weird parts about it is that it liked to walk on two feet.

00:08:16.000 Like to walk on two feet and it looked like a person. 0.99

00:08:20.000 It looked like a person fucked a chimp. 1.00

00:08:22.000 Yeah, look at him. 1.00

00:08:23.000 Oh, wow.

00:08:24.000 Dude, it's creepy.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, get a look.

00:08:28.000 Oh yeah, I have seen a picture.

00:08:30.000 It's creepy.

00:08:31.000 Of this person.

00:08:32.000 Go to that one in the far, go to the second row, second to the far left, the black and white one.

00:08:38.000 Oh, this one?

00:08:39.000 Yeah, that one.

00:08:40.000 Look at that one. 1.00

00:08:40.000 What in the fuck, man? 1.00

00:08:42.000 Wow, that is... 1.00

00:08:43.000 I want to think it says his name was Oliver.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, that's what it's saying.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, so its name was Oliver.

00:08:48.000 But look at the weird facial expression, particularly in that one image.

00:08:53.000 Now as he got older, he looked more and more just like a chimp. 1.00

00:08:56.000 But one of the weird things about him, see if you can find a video of it, Oliver the Humanzi.

00:09:01.000 He used to walk on his back feet.

00:09:04.000 So it was real creepy.

00:09:06.000 And so that's part of the reason why there was all the speculation that maybe it was like some sort of a hybrid.

00:09:10.000 It makes sense that there would be, like, definitely a, um, there's gotta be outliers, you know, because so much genetic information is shared between, like, all of the animals on the planet, including us, and we have bits and pieces of all of it.

00:09:24.000 Bro.

00:09:24.000 Oh my gosh, interesting.

00:09:26.000 Weird.

00:09:28.000 Yeah, could be an outlier.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, well, they did a DNA test on it because it had a very bald face as well.

00:09:35.000 Yeah.

00:09:35.000 Which is one of the other reasons why I think they had some speculation there was some human in it.

00:09:39.000 But they found out it was just a chimp, just a weird chimp. 0.99

00:09:43.000 Yeah, just like a, yeah, just a unique.

00:09:46.000 Yeah, so bizarre.

00:09:47.000 Yeah, super strange.

00:09:49.000 But I mean, you got to think, if human beings, they think in this form that we're at, we've only been around in this form for somewhere in the neighborhood of 250,000 to 450,000 years or something like that.

00:10:02.000 They don't really know.

00:10:03.000 But I think on the short end, it's like a quarter million years.

00:10:07.000 That's not that long.

00:10:08.000 Oh, no.

00:10:08.000 I mean, it's weird if you look at the evolutionary, like the lines, we just go.

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 It's just a departure.

00:10:14.000 Something happened.

00:10:16.000 Aliens.

00:10:16.000 I know.

00:10:17.000 I personally- It's my favorite thing to think of.

00:10:19.000 It's my 90%.

00:10:20.000 I always go to the 90%.

00:10:22.000 I'm 10% wrong, but I'm also 90% probably.

00:10:26.000 Yeah.

00:10:27.000 When I'm high, I'm 100%.

00:10:28.000 Yeah, something.

00:10:29.000 Something alien.

00:10:30.000 I mean, mushrooms are aliens, you know?

00:10:32.000 I think so.

00:10:33.000 You know, they probably came from other places in the universe.

00:10:36.000 There's probably a bunch of lichens, you know, like hybrid fungus and molds, you know, that work synergistically.

00:10:44.000 Whatever.

00:10:44.000 Who knows?

00:10:45.000 I mean...

00:10:45.000 Well, psilocybin can survive.

00:10:47.000 The spores can survive in a vacuum.

00:10:49.000 Oh, really?

00:10:50.000 They can survive in the vacuum of space.

00:10:51.000 Oh, man.

00:10:52.000 They can survive in extreme temperatures and extreme cold.

00:10:56.000 Interesting.

00:10:57.000 So the idea of panspermia, you know, that idea that building blocks of life came from asteroidal impacts.

00:11:02.000 Right.

00:11:02.000 They think that it's really possible that some sort of fungus could exist on an asteroid.

00:11:10.000 We have chunks of the moon in Antarctica and other parts of the world where some big asteroid hits or a meteor hits the moon, a big chunk flies off, it gets sucked into our gravity and slams into Earth.

00:11:22.000 And if that can happen, you can get some fungus on that, some sort of spores.

00:11:28.000 Yeah.

00:11:29.000 I mean, because water bears survive in space as well.

00:11:31.000 Yep.

00:11:32.000 And those are, like, more complex.

00:11:33.000 They're weird.

00:11:34.000 Those tardigrades? 1.00

00:11:35.000 What a weird-looking fucking animal that thing is. 1.00

00:11:37.000 I know. 1.00

00:11:38.000 It's just like a...

00:11:39.000 You know, it's the stuff that you don't want to look too much at when you are tripping.

00:11:44.000 Because it gives me existential dread.

00:11:47.000 Because then I'm like, I don't know what I am anymore.

00:11:50.000 I don't know what any of us are.

00:11:53.000 Look at its face!

00:11:53.000 Look at that tardigrade's face.

00:11:54.000 I mean, it's so...

00:11:56.000 It's awesome.

00:11:57.000 It's such a...

00:11:57.000 It looks like it's made of, like, cardboard.

00:12:00.000 You know, like someone shaped it with, like, paper mache.

00:12:03.000 Or velvet.

00:12:04.000 Yeah, or velvet.

00:12:05.000 Like a velvet balloon.

00:12:07.000 It's...

00:12:07.000 It's just an amazing...

00:12:08.000 Yeah, I mean, life is...

00:12:09.000 It's got, like, a buzzsaw tube for a nose.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, it's...

00:12:13.000 Like, it's mouth. 1.00

00:12:14.000 It's like, what a fucking freaky-looking nose. 0.99

00:12:16.000 I know. 0.99

00:12:17.000 What is it?

00:12:18.000 A mouth, I guess?

00:12:19.000 How does it even sense?

00:12:20.000 It's like, I guess it just must be moving and probably...

00:12:24.000 I guess smelling nutrients.

00:12:26.000 And nothing kills them other than like squashing them, right?

00:12:29.000 Yeah.

00:12:30.000 They're really really really small.

00:12:31.000 Yeah, they're really really tiny tiny and they can exist in space.

00:12:34.000 Can you see them with the human eye?

00:12:37.000 I don't think you could.

00:12:38.000 There's no way.

00:12:39.000 I mean that looks like scanning electron microscope imagery. 0.99

00:12:42.000 What a fucking weird... 0.99

00:12:43.000 And it's got little legs. 1.00

00:12:45.000 Right.

00:12:46.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:12:47.000 I mean, that's what's fucked up, right? 0.83

00:12:49.000 Is that all life comes from...

00:12:51.000 I mean, the first life that we believe happened on this planet comes from a single cell.

00:12:57.000 Yeah.

00:12:57.000 So it went from a single cell to multiple cells to something like that.

00:13:02.000 Yeah.

00:13:03.000 And then eventually you get a whale or a dolphin.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00

00:13:06.000 Or a fucking seagull. 1.00

00:13:07.000 Pick a life for him. 1.00

00:13:09.000 It's like, yeah, I mean, it never ceases to amaze me.

00:13:14.000 It just goes on and on and on, and the more that you look, you know, then you're like, they're atoms.

00:13:18.000 It's like, are they alive?

00:13:19.000 It's like, they're definitely not alive.

00:13:20.000 They're just building blocks.

00:13:21.000 But then...

00:13:22.000 What's the definition of life if it's using energy and it's creating energy?

00:13:27.000 Then there's sentience and awareness and consciousness and all that stuff, but it's all around us, man.

00:13:34.000 We're infinitely inside of it.

00:13:36.000 What is the narration saying?

00:13:39.000 Something about a special protein?

00:13:41.000 I don't know.

00:13:44.000 Tardigate, they're disordered because unlike most other proteins, they don't maintain a 3D structure.

00:13:50.000 How exactly they work to protect the water bear, though, they call them water bears, still a mystery.

00:13:55.000 What's clear, though, is that it could have big implications for humans. 0.99

00:13:58.000 Yeah, great, you fucking creepy scientists. 0.99

00:14:00.000 You want to turn us into tardigrades to keep us from getting cancer. 1.00

00:14:04.000 It's like, well, if we harness the T-cells from the human being and take bits of tardigrade and we are able to integrate... 1.00

00:14:11.000 We just have to get people comfortable with a new shape.

00:14:15.000 It's like, it's all science.

00:14:17.000 I mean, we really are.

00:14:17.000 We're just a big experiment ourselves.

00:14:20.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:14:20.000 Creepy looking little fuckers. 1.00

00:14:23.000 We only like what we are what we like what we look like, you know, I mean Yeah, I mean that's the kind of goes like to like what's happening like now even like with all these riots and protests and all this stuff. 0.99

00:14:34.000 It's like You know, I was talking to a friend about it My drummer Guillermo grew up similarly like mostly white culture had parent.

00:14:44.000 I mean, I'm half white half black.

00:14:46.000 So I have my French mom And my my african-american dad who was from Cleveland, Ohio and And so the mixture of the two, plus the fact that they were married in 1967, 68, and in the United States it still wasn't legal to marry interracially.

00:15:04.000 That's during my lifetime.

00:15:06.000 Yeah.

00:15:06.000 How crazy is that?

00:15:07.000 If you want to talk about the history of racism, during my lifetime it was not legal for African Americans to marry white people.

00:15:14.000 That's correct, yeah.

00:15:15.000 And also, and then the Chinese had their own pathway too.

00:15:18.000 They had to like, I think they were later.

00:15:21.000 After that, huh?

00:15:22.000 I think so.

00:15:23.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:15:25.000 But it's just like all that stuff when I think about how much went on and to get me to a point at which I can just be chill and be like, oh, hey, what's up?

00:15:35.000 I'm going to go buy a snack now.

00:15:38.000 I have to think about that.

00:15:42.000 My mom reminds me all the time, thankfully.

00:15:44.000 Because I tend to operate from, I'm a human first.

00:15:47.000 And my characteristics and my character and the way that I treat other people is the primary thing that I'm working from.

00:15:53.000 And I'm aware that I look a certain way that might trigger certain people.

00:15:58.000 But that's not how I operate.

00:15:59.000 I don't operate from that.

00:16:01.000 I go for the character first.

00:16:04.000 Then if I start to detect there's something else happening, then I can modulate and figure something out.

00:16:09.000 But I don't want to constantly assume, which growing up in Montana, I would have blown.

00:16:15.000 I would have exploded if that was the way...

00:16:17.000 I was doing stuff.

00:16:18.000 Because most of the time, Montanans, even if they're kind of, I'm uncomfortable with a black person, even if that was the case, and I come up and I'm having a conversation with them, and after a while, they're like, oh, that's cool. 1.00

00:16:27.000 Oh, you helped me with my thing.

00:16:29.000 Oh, yeah, thanks a lot for, oh, that's cool.

00:16:30.000 And then we're just kind of getting along, and they didn't even realize it.

00:16:34.000 It's like a sneak attack.

00:16:35.000 What part of Montana did you grow up in?

00:16:37.000 I grew up in Great Falls.

00:16:38.000 What's that near?

00:16:40.000 What's a big city that's near?

00:16:41.000 There's no big cities.

00:16:42.000 What's the closest?

00:16:43.000 The closest would be the capital, Helena.

00:16:45.000 Oh, okay.

00:16:46.000 But Grey Falls, I think, is bigger than Helena.

00:16:50.000 Grey Falls is about $65,000, but it's got an Air Force base, and it's got an oil refinery, and some canneries from Budweiser and Pepsi.

00:16:59.000 Were you there because someone in your family was in the military?

00:17:01.000 Yeah, my dad.

00:17:02.000 My dad was a two-time Vietnam vet.

00:17:05.000 First was in the army.

00:17:06.000 Then he left the army after four years and then applied with the Air Force.

00:17:11.000 And then went back.

00:17:12.000 And got in the Air Force and they sent him back again. 1.00

00:17:14.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:17:15.000 Which was kind of crazy. 0.99

00:17:16.000 But then he survived it.

00:17:19.000 Moved to a base in Germany because they were decommissioning.

00:17:24.000 Remember in France we had bases.

00:17:26.000 The United States had bases.

00:17:27.000 And then Charles de Gaulle at the time was like...

00:17:29.000 We don't want your bases in here anymore. 0.97

00:17:32.000 All your bases belong to us?

00:17:33.000 All your bases belong to us, yes.

00:17:35.000 We will absorb your bases.

00:17:37.000 And the United States is like, oh, we'll get out of there first.

00:17:39.000 And we're like, okay.

00:17:40.000 But yeah, so he was helping to decommission a base.

00:17:42.000 That's how he met my mom.

00:17:43.000 Oh, wow.

00:17:44.000 Yeah.

00:17:44.000 His name is Charles, and they met in a bar called the Charlie Bar, which I thought was kind of funny.

00:17:50.000 And then just decided to go to Montana because the base was there?

00:17:54.000 No, well, we were stationed for a second.

00:17:57.000 We went all over Europe.

00:17:59.000 So I was born in Stuttgart.

00:18:00.000 Then we moved around Spain, Italy, I think.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, Spain and Italy.

00:18:06.000 And then when I was four years old, we had a choice of two places to go to.

00:18:10.000 And they picked Montana because Montana had a better school system or something at the time.

00:18:15.000 And then I moved there when I was four.

00:18:17.000 And I wasn't even a citizen.

00:18:19.000 I was a citizen of nothing until I was four years old or five years old.

00:18:23.000 Yeah, so I was a non-citizen.

00:18:24.000 How weird is that?

00:18:26.000 That's really weird.

00:18:26.000 But it's not weird.

00:18:27.000 It is weird.

00:18:29.000 Yeah, it's not weird because of the circumstances.

00:18:31.000 Well, it's not weird because you're a human being on Earth.

00:18:33.000 It's weird that you have to be assigned a patch of dirt.

00:18:36.000 I know.

00:18:37.000 You know?

00:18:38.000 I know, I know.

00:18:39.000 What tribe do you belong to, young'un?

00:18:41.000 It's like, I don't know.

00:18:42.000 I haven't decided.

00:18:42.000 He has not decided.

00:18:43.000 The young one has not decided.

00:18:45.000 I mean, it's weird.

00:18:47.000 If I think about it, I'm kind of an immigrant, but kind of not.

00:18:50.000 Well, you're American.

00:18:52.000 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 You have American parents.

00:18:54.000 So even if, like, Brian Callen was born in... 0.99

00:18:57.000 Fuck, where was he born? 0.99

00:18:59.000 He was born in somewhere freaky. 1.00

00:19:02.000 Maybe Saudi Arabia?

00:19:04.000 Like Abu Dhabi or something.

00:19:04.000 Something like that.

00:19:05.000 Something outlandish.

00:19:07.000 Because his family was on the road all the time as well.

00:19:09.000 Right, yeah.

00:19:10.000 Same sort of deal.

00:19:11.000 Yeah, where you're kind of not, you're not a citizen.

00:19:13.000 I forget what they call it.

00:19:14.000 There's a status for that. 0.95

00:19:16.000 Traitor. 0.74

00:19:17.000 It's a traitor. 0.98

00:19:17.000 Yeah, it's a traitor or a spy. 0.98

00:19:18.000 Dangerous insider.

00:19:19.000 A spy.

00:19:20.000 Someone not to be trusted.

00:19:22.000 Mentoring candidate.

00:19:22.000 Yeah, totally.

00:19:24.000 He's the perfect one.

00:19:25.000 He's not connected to anyone.

00:19:25.000 He has no children.

00:19:26.000 Yes.

00:19:27.000 No, I mean, yeah, I guess it was like, I was in Montana when I remember, I kind of vaguely remember being in the courthouse and being made a citizen of the United States.

00:19:38.000 When you were four?

00:19:38.000 When I was five, I think.

00:19:39.000 Oh, wow.

00:19:40.000 Yeah, so for four, so I was like in the United States, like I wasn't in, I was a non-citizen.

00:19:45.000 I was a non-citizen of the world, and then I became an American citizen.

00:19:49.000 How strange.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, very, very strange when I think about it.

00:19:52.000 It's like all the ingredients are insane.

00:19:56.000 Like, I'm so stoked I got to grow up where I got to grow up, and I had the experiences that I got to experience, and I love Montana, and I love my friends from Montana, and I like being a guy that people never expect is from Montana, and it's like...

00:20:08.000 Well, you're an unusual guy in that you're very left-wing, like me, but you're also very Second Amendment, pro-Second Amendment, like me.

00:20:20.000 You know, I find, like, you and I have very big parallels on that.

00:20:24.000 That's true.

00:20:25.000 Yeah.

00:20:25.000 You know all for everyone's rights like for everything I mean just I want people to be free you do whatever yep, but when shit like this goes down and people are just randomly lighting targets on fire and you know and Smashing windows and stealing things and knocking cars over and pulling people out of trucks now you understand that the veneer of civilization is very thin and the the chaos of being is very deep and And

00:20:56.000 I don't ever want to have to use a gun.

00:20:59.000 Ever.

00:21:00.000 I'm a human being.

00:21:01.000 Ever.

00:21:01.000 In my life.

00:21:02.000 If I make it to the grave and never have encountered anyone that I needed to shoot to protect my or my loved one's lives, I'd be a happy person.

00:21:11.000 Yes, of course.

00:21:11.000 But I'd be much happier if I get to make that choice.

00:21:16.000 And I have the opportunity or the ability to protect myself or to protect someone I care about.

00:21:22.000 Well, I mean, it's like it depends on the climate that you're, you know, we live in a climate that is like for very, so many reasons have we've gotten to this point at which.

00:21:32.000 Essentially, I could just say the blanket blame goes to capitalism in general.

00:21:37.000 I mean, I'm sure you talk about this on the show a lot.

00:21:40.000 And capitalism in its most fundamental state is just essentially trade.

00:21:44.000 It's what humans did.

00:21:46.000 You set up a fruit stand and someone's got bread and you trade and then there's kind of like an understood value for things.

00:21:53.000 On a basic level, it's just kind of what we do as human beings.

00:21:55.000 We barter, we trade, things like that.

00:21:57.000 But then you flash forward and you overlay complexity over complexity over complexity that is then guided by people who are like, oh, I can game the system a little bit more.

00:22:06.000 Oh, I can game the system a little bit more.

00:22:08.000 And now you get all these hoarders and hoarders and people and choke points of resources, right?

00:22:14.000 And so then they're kind of dictating the value, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:17.000 Same thing goes with the arms.

00:22:19.000 It's like, yeah, I enjoy the reason why...

00:22:23.000 I enjoy my ability to have a firearm is because I respect their power.

00:22:28.000 I'm an engineered-minded person, so I like the engineering and the craftsmanship behind it, and I like the responsibility and the safety factor of it, that people take it seriously.

00:22:39.000 When I grew up, people were really adamant about the safety of guns.

00:22:43.000 Whenever I touched a gun, looked at a gun, before you pick it up, they'd be like, Never put your finger on the trigger.

00:22:49.000 Never pointed it at anybody unless you plan on firing it.

00:22:52.000 All the things that we all hear about gun owners are supposed to be taught.

00:22:57.000 And so growing up with guns, I didn't really fear them.

00:22:59.000 They were just a thing.

00:23:00.000 And my whole mom's side of the family is all police people.

00:23:06.000 And my dad was a military policeman.

00:23:08.000 He was in the military.

00:23:09.000 So, you know, guns, like, that was just a part of the thing.

00:23:11.000 Farmers, hunting, all that stuff.

00:23:14.000 Great fall, same thing.

00:23:15.000 Growing up in my friend's house, seeing a deer hung up, strung up, you know, on the rafters with a bunch of cardboard on the ground, you know, getting ready to be processed.

00:23:22.000 All of that stuff.

00:23:24.000 And for me, I came back to guns, like, maybe like 10 years ago or something like that.

00:23:30.000 Because I wanted to, I was interested in training and overcoming my fear of handguns.

00:23:35.000 And so that fascination was great.

00:23:37.000 I went to Montana, and my experiment was like, how long will it take me to get a handgun?

00:23:41.000 And I walked into a sporting goods store, one of my favorites.

00:23:45.000 I walked in, timed it, 20 minutes.

00:23:48.000 I walked out, and I had a bag with a handgun and ammunition in the bag, and I was walking out of the store.

00:23:55.000 So there's no waiting period?

00:23:57.000 No.

00:23:59.000 Now, you fill out the background check.

00:24:02.000 You do the background check.

00:24:03.000 They're like, oh, it looks like there's no red flag or whatever.

00:24:06.000 You can have the gun.

00:24:07.000 Wow.

00:24:08.000 Which part of me is like, if you're a responsible gun owner and you respect firearms, that seems kind of normal.

00:24:17.000 You're like, oh, I'm responsible.

00:24:19.000 I know how to use this weapon safely.

00:24:21.000 I'm going to buy this gun and I'm going to walk out, right?

00:24:23.000 And that was my first firearm I ever bought.

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 Whilst it was an interesting experiment, I will say, and when I talked to all my law enforcement friends in Montana, like, you know, who was the guy who walked in?

00:24:37.000 He walked in his suit and had a full-on three-piece suit and then had his carry, concealed carry, on him and then walked in with a huge bag of, like, crazy guns.

00:24:46.000 But he is a prosecutor and has to have security when he goes to cases and things like that because when they get convicted, sometimes people sick their friends on him and stuff like that.

00:24:58.000 Anyways, he's never had any altercations, but an interesting guy, really like very heavily armed, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:04.000 And I started talking to him.

00:25:05.000 I was like, what would happen if in order to get a firearm, You had to, like, back when the NRA was the, when Truly was the NRA, when it was a bunch of, like, war vets who were like, this is how you use firearms safely.

00:25:18.000 Like, way back in those days, if people had to go through training and had to be And when I talk in that way,

00:25:35.000 they're like, I don't really have a problem with that.

00:25:37.000 And I'm like, yeah, because you're only doing yourself a favor.

00:25:42.000 You're promoting safety and you're educating people about firearms.

00:25:46.000 And it's up to them if you want to have a firearm or you don't want to have a firearm.

00:25:49.000 But if you do, you have to know how to safely operate a firearm.

00:25:56.000 And there are many kinds of firearms.

00:25:58.000 They're not all the same thing.

00:25:59.000 Yeah.

00:25:59.000 So anyways, but it was an interesting conversation.

00:26:02.000 That is a powder keg of a conversation, right?

00:26:04.000 I know.

00:26:08.000 Just beat around the bush that maybe would be a good idea for people to learn how to use a gun before they buy a gun. 0.99

00:26:14.000 Traitor! 1.00

00:26:15.000 Fucking traitor! 1.00

00:26:17.000 Fucking Second Amendment is a right! 1.00

00:26:19.000 I know. 0.99

00:26:20.000 It's a right!

00:26:21.000 I know.

00:26:22.000 And it's so funny because that's why I've got a bunch of friends that conceal carry all the time for their professions in Great Falls.

00:26:31.000 I'm sitting down with them.

00:26:32.000 They've got a firearm on them.

00:26:33.000 I never feel nervous or anything like that.

00:26:36.000 But they're highly opinionated about people who open carry.

00:26:39.000 People who open carry, they're always like, those people are almost always, concealed carry permit people always say that they don't like those people.

00:26:48.000 Because you have a weapon that's visible, and it doesn't have a fancy biometric lock on it.

00:26:54.000 There's nothing.

00:26:54.000 It's like if you're in a situation that someone walks up behind you and takes your gun, now they've got a gun.

00:26:59.000 And you just told everybody, you just shown everybody that you have a firearm.

00:27:03.000 And so there's this weird thing about open carry that concealed carry people are like, this is ridiculous.

00:27:10.000 While you can do it if it's legal in your state, certainly, but Is it a good decision?

00:27:15.000 I don't think so.

00:27:18.000 It's probably not a good decision to do it when you're just going to Walgreens.

00:27:21.000 That's what I'm saying, yeah.

00:27:22.000 It probably exists so that no one can ever infringe upon your rights to have one in any capacity.

00:27:30.000 Sure. 0.97

00:27:31.000 It's not a thing where you want to do all the time, but if some shit goes down and you have a gun outside of your house, The law should be, you can do whatever the fuck you want. 0.98

00:27:42.000 The law says you're allowed to open carry so you can have this gun outside your house. 0.99

00:27:47.000 It doesn't mean you go to the movies with a fucking AK-47 strapped to your chest. 0.99

00:27:52.000 Yeah, which people do. 0.99

00:27:53.000 And I get it.

00:27:54.000 And the whole thing about...

00:27:56.000 The gun issue is that it needs to start somewhere, and it should start at education.

00:28:01.000 Yes.

00:28:01.000 Education, that's the key, right?

00:28:03.000 Yeah.

00:28:04.000 And some people are great at it.

00:28:06.000 Most people that I know that are into guns are very into the safety aspect of it, and they understand it, and it's very important to them.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, you have to. 0.94

00:28:14.000 But it's one of those things where, first of all, here's what's fucking weird. 0.94

00:28:18.000 I know so many people that want a gun now. 0.95

00:28:20.000 So many people that are asking for it.

00:28:22.000 All these liberals.

00:28:22.000 So many liberal friends of mine are asking me.

00:28:24.000 They're like, I know you have a gun.

00:28:26.000 And I was like, what does it take?

00:28:28.000 I was talking to two different friends who have had friends ask them if they can borrow a gun.

00:28:36.000 You can't loan someone a gun.

00:28:39.000 You people that are anti-gun are hilarious because they don't know that there are rules.

00:28:45.000 Like this idea that there's no rules.

00:28:47.000 No, there's rules.

00:28:48.000 All they hear about is, oh, but what about the gun show loophole?

00:28:51.000 They start talking about the gun show loophole.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:53.000 Go to a gun show then.

00:28:54.000 See any gun shows?

00:28:55.000 No.

00:28:56.000 Well, you can't have my gun. 1.00

00:28:57.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:28:58.000 I know. 0.99

00:29:00.000 That's the thing that's so hard about it.

00:29:03.000 Because for me, I'm a pragmatist.

00:29:06.000 And to me, it's always about awareness.

00:29:08.000 It's always about education.

00:29:10.000 And the conversation always breaks down on either side...

00:29:13.000 Where it's like, if it's a gun, they're like, any hint of something that says, we're going to have to talk about this?

00:29:20.000 They're like, no!

00:29:21.000 And then the people who are really anti-gun, they're like, any hint that there might have to be a compromise made, then they're also equally like, no!

00:29:29.000 And nothing's ever going to get done unless you get soldiers, cops...

00:29:35.000 People who have to use guns for a profession, talking to people who are heritage gun owners, people who've been growing up for generations doing that, to people who live in urban situations where there's illegal gun sales and black market guns and there are problems with guns in their communities.

00:29:52.000 All that stuff needs to be talked about, but the sides are so entrenched, it's very, very, very difficult.

00:30:00.000 Well, I think something like we're experiencing right now, these riots and the looting, this opens people's eyes.

00:30:06.000 This is like we're talking about our liberal friends that are very interested in getting a gun now.

00:30:10.000 This opens people's eyes.

00:30:12.000 You realize like this is not, no one's on a power trip.

00:30:15.000 You're just talking about your ability to safely defend your loved ones and yourself.

00:30:19.000 That's all you're talking about.

00:30:22.000 Absolutely.

00:30:23.000 100%.

00:30:23.000 And my thing is, too, it's like technology is amazing.

00:30:27.000 And guns are an interesting form of technology because, obviously, if, again, in a healthy situation, you're like, oh, did you see the new blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?

00:30:36.000 Oh, yeah, they enhanced this.

00:30:37.000 Oh, there's a trimount for the silencer.

00:30:39.000 So did you apply for the silencer?

00:30:40.000 I have a class one license.

00:30:41.000 All that geeky stuff.

00:30:42.000 It's as geeky as people working on engines and hot rods, right?

00:30:45.000 Right.

00:30:46.000 Exactly.

00:30:46.000 There's that, right?

00:30:47.000 Then there's the whole cultural thing that movies, you know, like bad boys and everything, just guns are just stuff that people just have and they're just shooting around.

00:30:55.000 And the thing is, like, people never understand when you talk to a war vet about guns and gunfights and firefights, especially recent firefights, they're like, I never...

00:31:06.000 Ever.

00:31:07.000 Would ever wish you to ever be in a gunfight.

00:31:11.000 Ever.

00:31:11.000 And so, and I believe them.

00:31:15.000 Because I know things can change so quickly.

00:31:17.000 A bullet, when you shoot a gun and it hits somebody and it ends their life, even if they were threatening you and so forth, that is one of the most traumatic things.

00:31:25.000 Things that can happen in a human being's life.

00:31:28.000 And they have to live with that all the time.

00:31:30.000 I mean, soldiers, at least they have like, I'm on a side and I'm trained, you know, and there's psychological help and all that stuff.

00:31:34.000 Or police officers, same thing.

00:31:36.000 Most of them never even draw their weapons.

00:31:37.000 But when they do, and they do fire it, the consequences are devastating on a psychological level.

00:31:43.000 But...

00:31:44.000 I will say that, you know, my friend who carries, I was like, what if the first three rounds that you have in your personal protection gun, like at home, or whatever your handgun, whatever it is, what if the first three rounds were rubber?

00:31:56.000 And then there were live rounds after that.

00:31:59.000 And he was like, oh, that's an interesting idea.

00:32:01.000 And I'm like, anything to...

00:32:04.000 Protect yourself, but not necessarily guarantee that you're going to kill, kill somebody if it's a weird situation.

00:32:11.000 Situations happen fast, and I understand when someone comes into your house, all bets are off.

00:32:16.000 Whatever you need to do, however you feel, if someone breaks into your house, I understand that completely.

00:32:23.000 But for me, I'm like, what can I do to make it really hard for someone to even get to me in the first place?

00:32:29.000 And my last, last, last resort is a weapon that can kill somebody.

00:32:35.000 That's my very, very, very last.

00:32:37.000 But I'm going to do everything I can to be as preemptive as possible to not be enticing for people to want to come up and attack. 0.98

00:32:44.000 Yeah, these rubber bullets that these cops are using on protesters, how fucked up is this that they're just shooting them into people? 0.98

00:32:50.000 Yeah, directly. 0.99

00:32:52.000 They're supposed to hit them off the ground. 1.00

00:32:53.000 They're shooting them at fucking reporters. 1.00

00:32:55.000 You see those reporters? 1.00

00:32:57.000 You're interviewing these people and they're like, ow, ow, what the fuck? 1.00

00:33:00.000 They're just getting shot at by cops that know they're reporters. 1.00

00:33:03.000 Yes, I know.

00:33:04.000 And a reporter lost her eye recently.

00:33:08.000 An ABC reporter, someone like that.

00:33:09.000 Yeah, got hit in the eye with a rubber bullet just recently, like yesterday or something like that.

00:33:14.000 And lost an eye.

00:33:15.000 That happened too when I was at the WTO riots.

00:33:17.000 You know, like one second you're like, oh, cool.

00:33:21.000 The chief of police is talking to the lead organizer, and he's got his helmet off, and everyone's like, oh, this is cool.

00:33:27.000 They're all talking.

00:33:27.000 And then from behind the police lines, you hear a bullhorn.

00:33:31.000 We're going to be launching tear gas.

00:33:33.000 Please clear the area.

00:33:34.000 And you're like, wait a minute, but you guys were just talking.

00:33:36.000 It's like, oh, I don't know.

00:33:37.000 And he doesn't know because that was another order placed by someone that wasn't him.

00:33:42.000 And then suddenly it turns into pandemonium, and the next thing you know, another dude loses him.

00:33:45.000 A guy that I knew that was a friend of a friend lost his eye in the WTO, right?

00:33:49.000 It's because the guy, the police officer shot at him directly instead of bouncing it off the ground.

00:33:56.000 It's just like, and it comes down to my gun guru dude that I was training with for a film, and that's kind of what launched me back into stuff.

00:34:06.000 But he was saying, training, training, training.

00:34:09.000 When it comes to police officers, it's community outreach, being able to actually establish a contact with your community so that they can at least have some form of trust or someone that they can talk to, that they can relate to.

00:34:20.000 So they understand the police are there for their protection.

00:34:22.000 Then the other thing is like training.

00:34:24.000 A lot of these officers are just like, they're just sending them out and going, hey, good luck.

00:34:28.000 Deal with stuff as it happens.

00:34:31.000 And then some of the cats are like, they don't know.

00:34:34.000 And their anger gets the best of them.

00:34:36.000 Someone's being indignant.

00:34:37.000 And they're like, you know what?

00:34:38.000 I'm going to lay it down.

00:34:40.000 I just think most people do not have the kind of temperament and character to deal with being in a position of having control over other people.

00:34:49.000 Really ultimate fatal control over other people.

00:34:52.000 I just don't think they have that.

00:34:53.000 I think most people, I mean, I think that takes a really powerful person and there are powerful people out there that handle it and handle it well and they're great cops.

00:35:01.000 Yes. 0.99

00:35:01.000 And then there's guys like that guy who put his fucking knee on that man's neck. 0.99

00:35:05.000 For eight minutes and 38 seconds or whatever it was and finally the the family got their own autopsy and the the autopsy showed the man did die from Asphyxiation? 0.98

00:35:16.000 Yeah, not not just asphyxiation, but also from the blood being cut off to the brain Which is really what it is.

00:35:22.000 It's a blood choke because you're you're putting your shin on the side of the neck It's cutting off the carotid artery.

00:35:27.000 It's like a choke like like a jujitsu choke You know, the idea that that's not what killed him is like, come on.

00:35:34.000 What was just a coincidence?

00:35:36.000 I mean, what is the autopsy? 1.00

00:35:37.000 How corrupt are your fucking medical examiners? 0.99

00:35:41.000 Man, I'm telling you, it's, yeah, I know, where they're like, oh, we need to get ahead of this. 1.00

00:35:46.000 And it's like, you know, just fucking tell it like it is. 0.96

00:35:48.000 He had pre-existing conditions. 0.98

00:35:50.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:35:50.000 Yeah, it's called being black. 0.78

00:35:52.000 Yes. 0.84

00:35:52.000 Yeah, that was the pre-existing condition. 0.84

00:35:54.000 I know, I know. 0.81

00:35:55.000 It's called being black and being arrested, especially by that guy.

00:35:59.000 That guy had 12 different abuse forms that were abuse claims against him over the years.

00:36:06.000 Yeah, I know.

00:36:07.000 And the guys that were just kind of sitting there, you know, the cops that were sitting there, it's like they, again, it's also a training issue. 0.89

00:36:13.000 It's like, you know, and if you're a cop and you've noticed another fellow officer in the field doing some shit that Right. 0.65

00:36:47.000 Well, some people that do step out, they get in trouble, right? 0.98

00:36:52.000 Some people that do call out other officers for shitty behavior.

00:36:55.000 But there was one woman really recently, I think it was either yesterday or today, there was a guy and he's arguing with these protesters, this male cop, and this woman gets on her knees in front of him.

00:37:07.000 And says she's on her knees.

00:37:09.000 And he shoves her to the ground when she's on her knees. 0.99

00:37:12.000 And this female officer gets in the guy's face and starts yelling at him. 1.00

00:37:16.000 And as he's walking away, she's chasing him down and yelling at him.

00:37:19.000 Oh, God.

00:37:20.000 And it's all on video.

00:37:21.000 So there are...

00:37:24.000 Examples of good cops who see cops being abusive and go, hey, and this guy was clearly abusive.

00:37:30.000 Like, there's one guy standing there and he got right in the guy's face, like intimidating him, and then he pushed the girl down.

00:37:36.000 Look, there's a lot of people that shouldn't be cops.

00:37:38.000 And then the stress of those situations where you're trying to take control of a mob, you know, it turns bad.

00:37:45.000 Or you get that sheriff from Flint, Michigan.

00:37:47.000 Did you see that video?

00:37:48.000 Oh, that was amazing.

00:37:49.000 It's amazing.

00:37:50.000 That was amazing.

00:37:51.000 It's beautiful.

00:37:51.000 It brings a tear to your eye.

00:37:52.000 It really did.

00:37:53.000 He's like, we're going to put down the batons.

00:37:54.000 We're going to march with you.

00:37:56.000 We're all together in this.

00:37:57.000 And we want you to have a voice.

00:38:00.000 And then he's hugging people and everybody's hugging everybody.

00:38:02.000 And they're walking together.

00:38:04.000 So imagine the cop that pushed the lady down and put him in that situation with those people.

00:38:10.000 That same aggro attitude. 0.97

00:38:12.000 He'd be yelling at people and telling them to shut the fuck up and pushing them away and it probably would have escalated. 0.98

00:38:17.000 Or imagine that cop in the other scenario with that woman on the ground. 0.99

00:38:22.000 He'd probably be like, ma'am, I don't want you on your knees. 0.98

00:38:24.000 We're all in this together.

00:38:26.000 We all saw what happened to that man and it's an injustice.

00:38:30.000 Let's walk together.

00:38:32.000 Let's try to heal this community.

00:38:35.000 Let's try to do better.

00:38:36.000 Yeah, that's what I want to see, man.

00:38:39.000 I mean, that's all it comes down to.

00:38:42.000 It's all about behavior, how you handle a situation in the moment.

00:38:46.000 And again, if they had a little bit of training, just a little bit of training to say, like, stop before, think, stop, think.

00:38:55.000 Then assess the situation.

00:38:57.000 And, you know, unless your life is in danger, like, you know, but that these situations are not that these are cops that are like, something happens, there's like something clicks, and there's chaos all around.

00:39:07.000 And the instinct is like, essentially the same mentality as someone who's taking advantage of it on the other side, who are like the people who come out after the initial rage wave of like, You know, which is a natural kind of biological instinct and it's a rebalancing but then they're the opportunists that sneak in behind the wave and those are the people that you see like targeting in a very organized way targeting these stores knowing exactly where they're gonna go and they're gonna take advantage of these moments of chaos yes and of course that gets mixed in and the cops see

00:39:37.000 that and it's like well they kind of get on get in on that wavelength instead of the majority wavelength which is just like we're pissed we're emotional we're loud But we're allowed to do this.

00:39:48.000 Have you seen these bricks that people have been finding at all these different sites where people are protesting?

00:39:55.000 These organized stacks of bricks.

00:39:58.000 No.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, man.

00:39:59.000 Look, this is...

00:40:00.000 I'm going to send...

00:40:01.000 Jamie, I'm going to send you one that Eddie sent me.

00:40:03.000 Who do you think is putting that?

00:40:05.000 That's the question, right?

00:40:07.000 It's like, who is putting that?

00:40:08.000 Is it Antifa?

00:40:09.000 Is it the cops?

00:40:11.000 Is it someone who wants someone to throw a brick so that they can impart martial law?

00:40:16.000 Like...

00:40:16.000 What is it?

00:40:17.000 Yeah, you know, my brain always goes to conspiratorial elements.

00:40:22.000 Here it is, mysterious brick piles appear throughout major protest cities.

00:40:26.000 I mean, these are bricks that are appearing that don't have a reason to be there.

00:40:33.000 Jamie, I'm going to send you this video that Eddie sent me because this is...

00:40:36.000 I'll eardrop it to you, buddy.

00:40:38.000 God, man.

00:40:39.000 The car, too, and the bait car they said in Long Beach yesterday left a car out there.

00:40:44.000 Really? 0.99

00:40:45.000 Who leaves a fucking free car out for people to just take? 0.99

00:40:47.000 A free police car. 0.99

00:40:49.000 So they left an old, shitty police car out there, and then on top of that, this old... 0.95

00:40:54.000 Why is this not... 0.61

00:40:56.000 Okay, Jamie, I'm airdropping it to you right now.

00:40:58.000 So this old shitty police car, and then these three, you have all these protesters, and then these three people move in a very organized fashion.

00:41:07.000 And there's a guy who made a video about it. 0.93

00:41:09.000 Have you seen the video, Jamie, where the guy breaks down the Antifa?

00:41:13.000 Have you seen that?

00:41:15.000 I'll send you the video.

00:41:16.000 That's weird.

00:41:17.000 What's that?

00:41:17.000 I never saw this.

00:41:18.000 Yeah.

00:41:19.000 Okay, put it up on the screen.

00:41:20.000 I gotta figure out how to do it.

00:41:21.000 Oh, okay.

00:41:22.000 Send photos.

00:41:23.000 Oh, I see.

00:41:24.000 That's so crazy.

00:41:25.000 So there's these, there it is.

00:41:27.000 So these random pallets of bricks.

00:41:29.000 This is very organized.

00:41:30.000 This is on Ventura Boulevard out here in LA, or I think it's in North Hollywood.

00:41:34.000 So these pallets of bricks are just sitting there.

00:41:39.000 Like, look at this.

00:41:40.000 What?

00:41:41.000 They're just like riot supplies.

00:41:43.000 Exactly, riot supplies.

00:41:46.000 What?

00:41:46.000 Exactly.

00:41:47.000 So who's doing this?

00:41:49.000 This is very organized.

00:41:50.000 There's many stacks of these bricks.

00:41:52.000 It's very anti-anarchist.

00:41:54.000 Well, is it?

00:41:55.000 Because it's organized.

00:41:56.000 But I mean, well, it's fuel for anarchy, right?

00:41:59.000 Yeah, but I just, I wonder...

00:42:01.000 Look at this.

00:42:02.000 Or do you think, I mean, here's another theory.

00:42:05.000 It could be possibly performance art.

00:42:09.000 I mean, and I'm not saying that as a joke, but some performance artists go to that length.

00:42:15.000 But that's very, very organized and very ominous and very weird.

00:42:19.000 I mean, I hope that those were reported and that the police picked them up.

00:42:22.000 Well, one thing that is happening that's promising is these provocateurs...

00:42:27.000 Are getting caught by actual Black Lives Matter protesters and grabbing them. 1.00

00:42:32.000 And these assholes that are breaking windows and spray painting things, like, they're grabbing these people and saying, hey, you fuck, and they're turning these people in. 1.00

00:42:40.000 Like, these people are smashing things. 1.00

00:42:42.000 Thank the Lord.

00:42:42.000 But they're recognizing that this is damaging.

00:42:45.000 There's a great moment in time right now where we can enact real change.

00:42:50.000 And it's really the perfect storm in its horrific nature.

00:42:57.000 You see this guy who's nonchalantly got his knee on this man's neck for 8 minutes and 38 seconds.

00:43:05.000 There's no justification.

00:43:09.000 It's very clear.

00:43:11.000 It's horrific.

00:43:12.000 There's no blurriness.

00:43:13.000 There's no gray area.

00:43:14.000 It's just dirty.

00:43:16.000 It's awful. 0.89

00:43:17.000 It's evil.

00:43:18.000 And then the man dies.

00:43:19.000 And everybody is, for a fantastic reason, upset.

00:43:24.000 And they want change.

00:43:26.000 And they're marching through the streets.

00:43:27.000 But then when you see these bricks.

00:43:29.000 And then we see the chaos.

00:43:30.000 And they've caught cops.

00:43:32.000 Cops that people knew were cops wearing police officers.

00:43:38.000 Police distributed gas masks, like official gas masks, like the ones that the cops use.

00:43:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:45.000 Like the same wardrobe that cops wear. 1.00

00:43:47.000 Everything's black, all military issue shit. 1.00

00:43:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:50.000 And then these people would chase them. 1.00

00:43:51.000 Are you a fucking cop? 1.00

00:43:52.000 Like this guy's breaking windows at Target. 1.00

00:43:54.000 And then someone in the comments was like, I know who that is.

00:43:58.000 That guy is a cop.

00:43:59.000 And they were calling out the guy's name.

00:44:01.000 So this cop is going around.

00:44:03.000 Oh.

00:44:03.000 While these peaceful protests are going on, and he's smashing windows with a gas mask on, fully dressed in military-issued garb, and people are like, well, that's an Asian provocateur.

00:44:14.000 But is he acting on his own?

00:44:16.000 Is he a rogue cop?

00:44:17.000 Is he like one of those crazy firefighters that lights buildings on fire so they can save him? 0.88

00:44:21.000 Is he inciting this?

00:44:23.000 What is going on here?

00:44:26.000 I think some people just wish they want it to turn into something massive and they want it to be like a civil war.

00:44:34.000 And there's also like the whole race war thing that, you know, you hear about white supremacists and stuff like that talk about, you know, and there's Then there's like the right way.

00:44:44.000 The thing is like your mind can swim in all kinds of like conspiratorial ways.

00:44:49.000 And it's probably it's a mixture of all kinds of things.

00:44:51.000 You know, it's definitely like it's probably like, hey, I'm going to do this or like, hey, we should do that.

00:44:56.000 Or someone kind of kids around and someone's listening, you know, in the police police department or whatever.

00:45:00.000 And they're like, yeah, what if we were doing that or whatever?

00:45:02.000 And they hear that they're like, I am going to do that.

00:45:05.000 Who knows? 1.00

00:45:06.000 But that's some dangerous shit. 0.99

00:45:07.000 And I think that that's amazing that protesters who are seeing this are detaining these people. 0.99

00:45:13.000 Because those people...

00:45:15.000 They're just not helping in any way.

00:45:18.000 And I'm...

00:45:19.000 Yeah, here's a good one. 1.00

00:45:20.000 See, this asshole is smashing things and this guy comes over and grabs him and fucking body slams him. 1.00

00:45:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:26.000 And then everybody holds the guy down. 1.00

00:45:27.000 They're screaming and yelling at him.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:29.000 And they hold this guy.

00:45:31.000 Yeah.

00:45:31.000 They pass him over to the police, too.

00:45:32.000 Yeah.

00:45:33.000 These are Antifa.

00:45:34.000 Look at him.

00:45:35.000 He's trying really hard to cover his face.

00:45:37.000 Yeah, it's like, no, no, no, no. 1.00

00:45:38.000 Okay, fuck you. 1.00

00:45:39.000 What is he hitting with a hammer? 1.00

00:45:40.000 What was he hitting?

00:45:41.000 He was making bricks off the sidewalk.

00:45:42.000 Oh! 0.60

00:45:43.000 Oh, and that's so...

00:45:44.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, good!

00:45:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:45:47.000 It's all gray hair.

00:45:47.000 How old is that, dude?

00:45:48.000 I don't know.

00:45:49.000 It's very frail.

00:45:50.000 Shitty jiu-jitsu.

00:45:50.000 I mean, I think...

00:45:51.000 Look how easy they took him down.

00:45:52.000 There's definitely some anarchists that are like, you know, they're basically...

00:45:56.000 They're like, we're doing this.

00:45:58.000 This is our time.

00:45:59.000 And you know that there's like a whole wave of those people because, I mean...

00:46:04.000 I remember going to Brandenburg, Germany.

00:46:07.000 A friend of mine out there has like a bunch of kind of Antifa slash anarchists but like kind of mellow version, German mellow version of that.

00:46:17.000 Bought a bunch of land that was actually kind of like a weird shaky history but it was like Goebbels training camp for the Nazi youth at one point.

00:46:26.000 And then it was before that it was like a Polish, I don't know, like Air Force place or something like that.

00:46:33.000 Anyways, it has like this military, weird, shaky history, but they bought it and they've converted it.

00:46:39.000 And now it's like very accepting of all people, like all kinds of people live on there.

00:46:43.000 And then they are people who work on the, what's it called?

00:46:48.000 The Fusion Festival, which is one of the biggest festivals in the world in Germany that's in Brandenburg.

00:46:54.000 It's an amazing festival.

00:46:55.000 It's all just love-based techno, but it's got that hard edge of anti-corporate.

00:47:02.000 It's all DIY, but it's massive.

00:47:04.000 It's like 70,000 people festival.

00:47:07.000 It's like Burning Man in the Woods.

00:47:10.000 And very interesting conversations that you hear from them.

00:47:13.000 Do you speak German?

00:47:14.000 I don't.

00:47:15.000 I don't.

00:47:15.000 I mean, a tiny bit.

00:47:17.000 Ambition.

00:47:17.000 But not a lot.

00:47:19.000 I actually was trying to learn German.

00:47:21.000 I love the German language.

00:47:22.000 Do they speak English?

00:47:23.000 Yeah, they speak English.

00:47:24.000 So when you're having these conversations.

00:47:25.000 Yes.

00:47:25.000 Yeah, we're speaking English.

00:47:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:27.000 I remember once, because I was renting an Audi R8 V10 Plus, and I drove it onto the grounds when they were tearing down.

00:47:35.000 And this young woman came up with a spray paint can and was like shaking the can and going like, what are you doing here with this kind of a vehicle?

00:47:43.000 And it was this weird tense standoff, but I was with one of the people who's like one of the- Like she was going to spray paint your car?

00:47:49.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:51.000 What a bold lady. 1.00

00:47:52.000 I know.

00:47:53.000 And in a way, like I was like, you know what, if she would have done it, That's fine.

00:47:57.000 I was in her territory, you know. 1.00

00:47:59.000 Fuck that. 1.00

00:48:00.000 I mean, I'm okay with, like, when it comes to, like, people who are that passionate about, like, anti-corporate and stuff like that, I'm like, I get it. 1.00

00:48:07.000 Yeah, but that's your property.

00:48:09.000 No, I mean, I'm renting it.

00:48:11.000 Yeah, but she doesn't know that.

00:48:12.000 She doesn't know that, but I had a feeling she wasn't.

00:48:15.000 But inside my head, I was like, what if she did?

00:48:18.000 And I'd be like, well, I guess I just have to drive this Audi with this fascist, anti-fascist, whatever symbol on the side of the car.

00:48:28.000 It's a funny thing.

00:48:29.000 No good ever comes out of that.

00:48:31.000 That's the problem.

00:48:31.000 No good ever comes out of defacing property.

00:48:34.000 No compromise gets reached.

00:48:36.000 No conversation gets breached.

00:48:38.000 No, no.

00:48:39.000 Not when you're destroying history and you're destroying...

00:48:43.000 It's just destruction.

00:48:45.000 Again, as an initial response, understandable.

00:48:49.000 If something happens and people go out and they're young, especially in this climate, being kooked up, no jobs, what do you want to do?

00:48:57.000 Let's rally behind this. 0.97

00:48:58.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99

00:48:59.000 Whatever. 0.95

00:49:00.000 Boom.

00:49:00.000 Initial like, ah, who knows what's going to happen in that chaos when everybody goes outside.

00:49:04.000 I get that.

00:49:05.000 The continuation of it.

00:49:07.000 Yeah.

00:49:31.000 You have to strategize.

00:49:33.000 And for me, I'm about hacking.

00:49:34.000 We've got to hack this system.

00:49:36.000 Yeah, but you're this guy who's really into engineering.

00:49:38.000 You're very thoughtful. 1.00

00:49:40.000 That's not what you're dealing with with these burn-it-to-the-ground motherfuckers. 0.99

00:49:43.000 These people don't have a plan B, and they don't have a forward strategy. 1.00

00:49:47.000 They just want to... 1.00

00:49:48.000 We're going to fucking tear down capitalism, man. 0.99

00:49:51.000 And then what? 1.00

00:49:52.000 How are you going to get your food, you fuck? 1.00

00:49:53.000 Where are you going to get your shoes? 1.00

00:49:55.000 Who's making your shoes? 1.00

00:49:56.000 Where did you get your car, you fucking idiot? 1.00

00:49:59.000 I know. 1.00

00:49:59.000 Where'd your phone come from? 1.00

00:50:00.000 I'll give you a hint.

00:50:01.000 Not America. 0.89

00:50:02.000 Yes, I know.

00:50:03.000 Things have to get made, dum-dum. 0.98

00:50:04.000 People have to engineer them.

00:50:06.000 It is really, like, it is, and I agree with that 100%.

00:50:10.000 They're using capitalism to fight capitalism.

00:50:14.000 Yes.

00:50:14.000 They're using the internet and social media sites on cell phones that they bought.

00:50:20.000 Yes.

00:50:21.000 I mean, without a doubt.

00:50:23.000 I mean, here's the thing.

00:50:23.000 This is what's so weird about it is that it's such a paradox, right?

00:50:27.000 I mean, essentially, it's what you're describing.

00:50:29.000 Yeah.

00:50:30.000 So if you want to affect change, you're either going to fit into the feedback loop, you're going to feed back into the feedback loop, or you're going to figure out a way to shift it so that you're able to spiral away from it.

00:50:39.000 And that's really what we need. 0.97

00:50:41.000 And I like people taking responsibility for getting rid of the fuckwits that are fucking it up for everybody, because guaranteed, whether it's the police or whether it's protesters, it's always a very, very small percentage Of those people are going to fuck it up because also the news loves sensationalism. 0.99

00:51:00.000 So we're going to focus on that. 0.99

00:51:01.000 I think what we're dealing with right now is really the perfect storm.

00:51:05.000 Okay?

00:51:05.000 You have a bunch of pieces in place.

00:51:07.000 First of all, there's a lot of people that never really recovered from the 2008 crisis, right?

00:51:11.000 As people are very upset that the bankers and these subprime mortgage loans and the housing crisis and everything went chaotic.

00:51:20.000 People lost shit tons of money and then all of a sudden you have this pandemic and the pandemic comes along and people cannot work.

00:51:29.000 So for the first time ever through no fault of your own, you literally can't work for months and months at a time. 0.69

00:51:35.000 There's a staggering number of people right now that are in desperate states.

00:51:40.000 They're in a terrible position financially.

00:51:42.000 They're about to lose their home.

00:51:43.000 They're about to lose their car. 0.99

00:51:44.000 They don't know what the fuck they're gonna do to feed themselves. 0.98

00:51:48.000 Yep. 0.99

00:51:48.000 And then you get this murder. 0.99

00:51:52.000 Yep.

00:51:52.000 And the murder just lights all this dry wood.

00:51:56.000 Yep. 1.00

00:51:57.000 And then everybody says, look, these people are all full of shit. 1.00

00:52:01.000 Donald Trump's full of shit. 1.00

00:52:02.000 Nancy Pelosi's full of shit. 1.00

00:52:04.000 They're all monsters. 1.00

00:52:05.000 It's all bullshit. 1.00

00:52:06.000 Gavin Newsom's full of shit. 1.00

00:52:07.000 Let's fucking burn it down. 1.00

00:52:09.000 Let's steal. 1.00

00:52:10.000 Let's smash.

00:52:12.000 And that's taking a part, that's happening while these peaceful protests are happening, all the while people just got done watching The Joker.

00:52:23.000 Yes, I know. 0.99

00:52:25.000 Which is this fucking billion dollar movie where this guy kills everybody and burns it to the ground, shoots people on TV, and here's the problem. 0.99

00:52:32.000 You kind of cheer for him. 1.00

00:52:34.000 You kind of cheer for him.

00:52:35.000 Of course. 0.94

00:52:35.000 If this was a movie and a bunch of people were like, look, we're going to fucking end this corrupt system of capitalism, start smashing windows and burning things, part of you would be going, hmm, let's see how this turns out. 0.94

00:52:47.000 Yeah. 0.61

00:52:47.000 How is this going to turn out? 0.61

00:52:48.000 This is kind of an interesting choice.

00:52:49.000 Like, wow, these guys are getting radical.

00:52:51.000 Do they have a plan? 0.97

00:52:52.000 But then in the movie, if you saw these pallets of bricks just mysteriously appearing at these areas where people are scheduled to protest and where these marches are supposed to go by, you're like, hey, what the fuck is going on here?

00:53:05.000 Yeah, there's something else at play that's trying to push it over into that fantasy, to move from the fantasy into the reality.

00:53:14.000 And my left-wing friends think it's right-wing people that are agent provocateurs that are trying to start this sort of chaotic scene so that the military can be called in, which is what essentially Trump apparently did today.

00:53:26.000 Oh, yes.

00:53:27.000 Yeah.

00:53:27.000 Apparently, Jamie, why is everybody saying that it's martial law?

00:53:32.000 Is that something that happened after his speech?

00:53:35.000 Because during his speech, he was essentially saying that if they didn't call in the National Guard, he was going to bring in the military, which is...

00:53:42.000 I don't know if he can do that.

00:53:44.000 I don't think he can do that.

00:53:47.000 That statement, I think, is what they're taking as...

00:53:49.000 Martial law. 0.90

00:53:50.000 Yeah, essentially.

00:53:52.000 Which, in a weird way, goes against...

00:53:54.000 I mean, you were talking about left-wing people saying it's the right-wing, and I'm sure that there are right-wing people that are saying, oh, it's the left-wing because they want it to make it.

00:54:02.000 Yeah, they think it's Antifa.

00:54:03.000 So it's like all this finger-pointing.

00:54:05.000 Whoever's doing it is definitely winning for their point of view because they're like, well, we're doing it.

00:54:10.000 No one knows who it is, and we're just doing it.

00:54:12.000 Well, Asian provocateurs have been used from the beginning of time.

00:54:16.000 I mean, they've always done that.

00:54:17.000 Hitler burned the Reichstag.

00:54:18.000 He did that to incite the people of Germany to get behind him and that he was going to take control of the situation.

00:54:24.000 Nero burned Rome, same way.

00:54:26.000 I mean, it was all done in order to get people excited about this idea of this one person saving them from this attack.

00:54:34.000 And that has been done forever.

00:54:36.000 Alex Jones had a great video called 9-11, The Road to Tyranny.

00:54:41.000 It was the first time I really understood that agent provocateurs are a government strategy.

00:54:45.000 And he detailed, like, very...

00:54:48.000 This is like...

00:54:50.000 I guess it was like 2001 or 2002 that he put this video out, and he detailed how the World Trade Organization, when those people were protesting against the WTO, and this was in Seattle.

00:55:02.000 Yeah, I was there.

00:55:03.000 Okay.

00:55:04.000 So you were there in 2000?

00:55:06.000 I was there just before it blew up.

00:55:10.000 I actually don't know.

00:55:11.000 It was early 2000s.

00:55:13.000 Early 2000s, maybe 2000, 2001 or something.

00:55:15.000 So these people were protesting against the WTO, and then these guys dressed exactly like that guy I was talking about earlier, all black, face covered, military-issue outfits, military-issue Vibram-soled shoes, all dressed uniformly, started smashing windows,

00:55:32.000 smashing cars, pushing over post office boxes, lighting things on fire, and then they wound up shutting down all the protests, and even had They had a no-protest zone where people were showing up at work where they had a WTO stick or a WTO pin with a red line through it.

00:55:52.000 They made them take that pin off of their jacket before they went through the line because you couldn't have anything that was any sort of a protest.

00:56:02.000 It was crazy.

00:56:03.000 Like this is all documented in this film.

00:56:05.000 Then they eventually, all these guys who were the agent provocateurs, holed up in a building and then the police negotiated with them and then released them.

00:56:15.000 So there was some sort of an order from higher up and they were all released.

00:56:20.000 Interesting. 0.87

00:56:21.000 They used these guys, they used military people, some branch of the government, who knows what the fuck they were or who they were, they used them to turn a peaceful protest about a legitimate concern these people have about the doings of the World Trade Organization, 0.89

00:56:37.000 and they turned it into a violent encounter that they could then justifiably bring in the police and shut everything down. 0.95

00:56:45.000 Makes sense.

00:56:46.000 That's what people are worried about with these bricks.

00:56:48.000 They're worried about these bricks. 0.99

00:56:49.000 These bricks, this is horseshit. 0.98

00:56:51.000 This is done to shut down the peaceful protests where people are legitimately and righteously concerned about ending police brutality. 0.98

00:57:01.000 Because it's been going on forever.

00:57:02.000 It's been going on too long.

00:57:04.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah.

00:57:06.000 I mean, I just, at this point, it's like I don't put past any measure done by people that want to maintain their bottom line.

00:57:14.000 Like, they'll do whatever it takes.

00:57:16.000 And it's like, again, you know, when it comes to stuff like that, I'm like, I want to stay informed. 1.00

00:57:21.000 I want to keep those ideas in mind in the most simplistic way, which is, if you've got a lot of shit, you're going to do whatever it takes to keep your shit. 0.99

00:57:30.000 And you'll do all kinds of crazy shit to try to maintain power and control. 1.00

00:57:36.000 And vice versa. 0.99

00:57:37.000 And what really sucks is that if you did the opposite, if you did what that sheriff did, you actually not only get what you want, but you get more.

00:57:47.000 And that's what I don't understand.

00:57:49.000 The virus of...

00:57:52.000 Doing evil badly?

00:57:53.000 That's what I think of it as. 0.68

00:57:55.000 Being very inefficient and terrible at being selfish and greedy.

00:57:59.000 If you were really selfish and if you were really greedy, You would make sure that the well-being of your population was met so that there was reverence for your position.

00:58:08.000 And if there's reverence for your position, then you have the goodwill of people and it's easier to make things happen.

00:58:13.000 However, people don't get that.

00:58:15.000 That's 5D chess.

00:58:16.000 Yeah, man.

00:58:17.000 I mean, come on.

00:58:19.000 It works.

00:58:19.000 I know, but even people don't think like that, right?

00:58:21.000 I know they don't.

00:58:22.000 It's a virus.

00:58:22.000 They just want control and power.

00:58:24.000 It's like the type of person that wants to be in that position is the type of person that just wants control and power.

00:58:29.000 They want people to be afraid of them.

00:58:31.000 Even the way Trump talks about it, he talks about using dogs. 0.68

00:58:36.000 He's talking about using the most vicious dogs. 0.98

00:58:41.000 He's got such a foolish way of communicating in times of crisis, and that's what's really dangerous, because some people are really good in times of crisis. 0.97

00:58:50.000 Obama was very good in times of crisis. 0.96

00:58:53.000 Even George W. George W. gave a speech after 9-11 that made everybody love him.

00:58:58.000 Everybody was like, this is our guy.

00:58:59.000 He's going to take care of us.

00:59:01.000 But I don't agree with him on certain political issues, but obviously...

00:59:04.000 There's clearly evil in the world.

00:59:05.000 We just saw these people take down the World Trade Centers and people have died and we're being attacked.

00:59:10.000 Okay, this guy, he's going to take care of us.

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:14.000 And you don't get that feeling with Trump at all.

00:59:16.000 No, no.

00:59:17.000 Trump is like, I mean, it's like he's just in his own feedback loop.

00:59:20.000 So whatever he can do to make himself Feel good.

00:59:24.000 He's going to do it.

00:59:25.000 And then he only understands caveman principles, which is power, strength, show strength, dominance.

00:59:31.000 But he doesn't believe it himself.

00:59:33.000 That's the thing. 1.00

00:59:33.000 You know that Trump, for as much bolstering as he does, all of the shit that he says. 1.00

00:59:39.000 I swear to God, if he was in a room with someone who's just like, you're talking about all this tough guy stuff? 0.99

00:59:43.000 Let's go right now.

00:59:44.000 He would be cowering in a corner.

00:59:47.000 He can't back up any of this stuff.

00:59:49.000 All of his positions, it's just hot air.

00:59:50.000 That would be a great episode of Black Mirror.

00:59:53.000 Oh my god, yeah, I know, right? 0.78

00:59:56.000 It would have to be like a guy who's like a guy who he's insulted, but that's like unassuming who fucks him up. 0.56

01:00:04.000 You know who it'd have to be?

01:00:04.000 It'd have to be Justin Trudeau.

01:00:06.000 Because he's like, Justin Trudeau is like this super social justice warrior guy, and he's a handsome fellow with a beautiful thick head of hair. 0.99

01:00:16.000 If all of a sudden Trump wakes up and he's in MMA shorts with his big man boobs. 0.99

01:00:23.000 Yeah, totally. 0.99

01:00:24.000 And they're putting in the mouth guard and they're like, okay, so this is what you're going to do.

01:00:27.000 He's like, where am I? Justin Trudeau's just massaging him.

01:00:32.000 Trudeau's stretching the woman up. 0.93

01:00:33.000 Doing these crazy kicks. 1.00

01:00:35.000 He starts fucking him up. 1.00

01:00:36.000 No, better yet, it would be a woman. 0.99

01:00:38.000 Oh, that would be amazing. 0.99

01:00:40.000 Yeah, some badass woman who fucks him up. 1.00

01:00:43.000 Some woman president of Nigeria or some shit. 1.00

01:00:46.000 Totally. 1.00

01:00:47.000 Starts kicking his ass. 1.00

01:00:47.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:00:48.000 And making fun of him while she's fighting him. 0.89

01:00:51.000 I mean, that's the thing.

01:00:52.000 It's like, you know, I think we...

01:00:54.000 Imagine if that was the rule.

01:00:56.000 Oh, man.

01:00:57.000 Like, if you had to fight someone.

01:00:59.000 Like, if you wanted your government to fight, how about better yet...

01:01:04.000 We break it down to one versus one, and the best controlled situation where we're going to lose the least amount of life, you challenge to a duel the other person from the other country. 0.81

01:01:16.000 I'm so down with that.

01:01:17.000 I remember there was a science fiction story, I think maybe in the 80s, or it was like in the 80s or the 70s, and it was about that.

01:01:24.000 It was like in the future, world leaders would just fight each other.

01:01:26.000 We'd have a real problem with Putin. 0.99

01:01:28.000 He'd fuck everybody up. 1.00

01:01:29.000 Because he'd be the master cheater. 0.99

01:01:31.000 Well, he knows how to fight.

01:01:32.000 He's a black belt in judo.

01:01:34.000 Oh, is he?

01:01:34.000 Legit black belt.

01:01:35.000 Yeah, he's very good.

01:01:36.000 All right.

01:01:37.000 You ever seen videos of him?

01:01:38.000 No.

01:01:39.000 Yeah, see if you can find videos of Putin doing judo.

01:01:41.000 He's very good.

01:01:42.000 He trains with legit guys, too.

01:01:44.000 Okay.

01:01:45.000 It seems like they kind of let him throw him around a little bit.

01:01:48.000 A little Seagal?

01:01:49.000 Very Seagal-like. 0.96

01:01:51.000 But when you look at his movements, he's clearly skilled.

01:01:55.000 He's very skilled.

01:01:56.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:01:57.000 He absolutely knows what he's doing.

01:01:59.000 Here he goes.

01:02:00.000 See, this is him working out with the Russian judo team. 1.00

01:02:03.000 Like, that kind of shit. 0.99

01:02:04.000 Oh, that guy, that was a little weird, the way he felt. 1.00

01:02:06.000 No, no, no, man.

01:02:06.000 That was a legit move.

01:02:08.000 That's a legit move.

01:02:09.000 It seems so effortless.

01:02:10.000 It's just a simple sweep.

01:02:13.000 What they're doing right now is they're grabbing... 0.99

01:02:15.000 He's got a little fucking problem with his little thumb. 0.99

01:02:19.000 They're grabbing each other's... 0.99

01:02:21.000 They're just going to tape his thumb up.

01:02:22.000 They're grabbing each other's geese and they're moving each other around and they try to redirect like that.

01:02:27.000 Okay, that looked legit.

01:02:28.000 The other one just felt a little weird.

01:02:30.000 It looks weird because it's funny how easy it is for someone to throw you to the ground if they just sweep out your foot.

01:02:36.000 You like the little high-step warm-up?

01:02:38.000 It does look quite feminine.

01:02:41.000 It's actually a good way to warm up.

01:02:42.000 My dad was a judo.

01:02:43.000 He's a brown belt in judo.

01:02:45.000 Well, when I watch him maneuver, there's no doubt about it.

01:02:49.000 He's skilled.

01:02:49.000 Yeah, no.

01:02:50.000 I mean, obviously, he trains. 1.00

01:02:52.000 Yeah, he would fuck Trump up. 1.00

01:02:54.000 We'd have a real problem. 1.00

01:02:54.000 Yeah, we would. 1.00

01:02:55.000 We'd all be speaking Russian.

01:02:56.000 I mean, Trump would probably get taken out with one slap, an open-handed slap to his face, and he would probably start crying.

01:03:04.000 Well, I don't know about that. 0.90

01:03:06.000 You'd have to slap around.

01:03:09.000 You'd probably mess his hair up and you'd panic.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:12.000 Just get it wet.

01:03:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:13.000 Throw a bucket of water on his hair and be like, ah!

01:03:15.000 No!

01:03:16.000 So he's working out with the real Russian judo team, though. 0.99

01:03:21.000 I mean, and he's like fucking 60-something years old. 0.98

01:03:24.000 That's pretty cool. 0.99

01:03:25.000 Just kind of crazy.

01:03:25.000 I mean, on a human, I need to accomplish something level, that's, you know, that's good.

01:03:32.000 If there's something, you know, I was asked today that Maria Bamford had a questionnaire, 25 questions that you're supposed to answer for a certain column or something like that.

01:03:42.000 And one of the questions was like, did you learn something from someone that you didn't like?

01:03:48.000 And in a way, like in that video, it's like, well, I don't like Putin, but...

01:03:53.000 It shows that, you know what?

01:03:55.000 At 60 years old, you can still train with the best of them.

01:04:00.000 He's putting himself out there and he's going for it.

01:04:03.000 Sort of.

01:04:04.000 But again, it's hard to imagine that those guys weren't kind of like taking it easy.

01:04:09.000 Yeah.

01:04:09.000 I think that they were taking it easy because it's...

01:04:12.000 I mean, how could you not?

01:04:13.000 Could you imagine being the guy that like takes... 0.98

01:04:15.000 Hip toss him on his head and you wind up dead. 0.96

01:04:17.000 Yeah, and then you'd just be like... 0.98

01:04:18.000 He'd be like, all right, yeah, you got me.

01:04:21.000 Seems all friendly at first.

01:04:22.000 And then like a week later, you're like in a gulag.

01:04:24.000 Yeah, you just slowly get poisoned to death over months.

01:04:28.000 Did you ever hear the story about him with Robert Kraft with the Super Bowl ring?

01:04:33.000 No, no.

01:04:34.000 Sergio Simpson actually told me this story.

01:04:36.000 It's a crazy story.

01:04:37.000 He was with Robert Kraft when Robert Kraft was there.

01:04:43.000 He had a Super Bowl ring on.

01:04:45.000 And he said, let me see your ring.

01:04:47.000 Let me hold.

01:04:48.000 He takes the ring and he puts it on his finger and then just walks away. 1.00

01:04:51.000 And then Robert Kraft was like, hey, what the fuck? 0.98

01:04:53.000 And then, you know, the security guards put their hand on Kraft, like, shaked his hand, like, no. 0.99

01:04:58.000 Like, that's his ring now.

01:05:00.000 Wow. 1.00

01:05:01.000 He just, in front of everybody, took his fucking ring. 1.00

01:05:03.000 Look, here it is right here. 1.00

01:05:05.000 You can see it.

01:05:05.000 Look, he puts it on his finger.

01:05:09.000 He puts it on his finger.

01:05:10.000 He looks at it.

01:05:10.000 He's like, oh.

01:05:11.000 And then Kraft tries to get it back.

01:05:13.000 He's like, no, that's mine.

01:05:15.000 I'm going to keep that.

01:05:16.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:05:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:19.000 Ugh, what an asshole. 1.00

01:05:20.000 Stole his fucking Super Bowl ring, but he put it on and just walked away. 1.00

01:05:24.000 What an asshole. 1.00

01:05:25.000 But weird. 1.00

01:05:26.000 I mean, it's a power move. 0.99

01:05:27.000 It's such a big dick move. 0.99

01:05:29.000 Yeah, it's totally just like, hey, check this out. 1.00

01:05:32.000 He just whipped his hog out in front of everybody. 0.94

01:05:34.000 The thing that sucks about- What did it say that? 0.93

01:05:35.000 What is that quote right there? 0.99

01:05:36.000 I took- Took the ring, showed it to Putin, he put it on, and he goes, I can kill someone with this ring. 0.73

01:05:43.000 And that was it? 0.91

01:05:44.000 That's all he said?

01:05:44.000 And they took it.

01:05:45.000 Yeah.

01:05:46.000 I put my hand out.

01:05:47.000 He put it in his pocket.

01:05:49.000 Three KGB guys got around him and walked out. 0.99

01:05:53.000 That sucks, man. 0.97

01:05:56.000 That's weird. 1.00

01:05:58.000 That just sucks. 0.97

01:05:59.000 It's such a crazy thing to do in front of everybody. 0.99

01:06:01.000 I mean, I get it.

01:06:03.000 That's like the thing people like Bolsonaro or Trump or any of these kind of strong-arm...

01:06:11.000 They think that that's the way that you do it.

01:06:14.000 Because when you don't have creativity...

01:06:17.000 And you don't have a connection to empathy.

01:06:21.000 You make up for it in other ways. 0.99

01:06:23.000 And so in this particular case, it's like, well, I'm just going to do strong arm shit. 0.99

01:06:28.000 Because I can. 0.99

01:06:29.000 And do it in front of everybody.

01:06:31.000 And do it in front of everybody.

01:06:32.000 With the cameras flashing.

01:06:32.000 Because that's how you do it.

01:06:33.000 I dig ring.

01:06:34.000 It's like, this is the way. 1.00

01:06:35.000 I will kill some people with this ring. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Yeah, this is the way you do it. 1.00

01:06:38.000 You do it.

01:06:39.000 This is power.

01:06:40.000 Eventually, it's him going like, this is how power works.

01:06:42.000 What a crazy thing to say to a guy. 0.99

01:06:44.000 I could kill someone with this ring. 0.99

01:06:46.000 I wonder if he did. 1.00

01:06:47.000 I wonder if he killed somebody with it. 0.55

01:06:49.000 You know he's definitely killed people. 0.71

01:06:50.000 Oh, for sure.

01:06:51.000 I wonder if he ever killed somebody with that Robert Kraft Super Bowl ring.

01:06:54.000 Oh, man.

01:06:56.000 Yeah.

01:06:56.000 I mean, that guy...

01:06:58.000 Damn it. 1.00

01:06:59.000 I just hope that humanity, we can pull out of it, man. 0.99

01:07:05.000 I hope that we can, like, go, you know what?

01:07:07.000 Look what he's saying.

01:07:08.000 What Mr. Kraft is saying now is weird, Dmitry Peskov said.

01:07:12.000 I was standing 20 centimeters away from him and Mr. Putin and saw and heard how Mr. Kraft gave this ring as a gift.

01:07:20.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:07:24.000 Insane.

01:07:25.000 Insane.

01:07:26.000 It's a gift!

01:07:27.000 You know, once the KGB guy was like, no, it's like, you know it's over.

01:07:31.000 You know that it's over. 1.00

01:07:34.000 You're not getting your shit back. 0.99

01:07:35.000 He said it's a humorous anecdote that Kraft retells for laughs. 0.99

01:07:40.000 He loves that the ring is in the Kremlin and, as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have a great respect for Russia and the leadership of President Putin.

01:07:51.000 Oh my lord.

01:07:52.000 Says, Stacy James, a spokesman for the craft group.

01:07:56.000 I don't trust dudes who are named Stacy.

01:07:58.000 Because they're real.

01:07:59.000 They're real.

01:08:00.000 What about Keech?

01:08:01.000 Stacey Keech? 1.00

01:08:02.000 Yeah, but he was born in the 40s and shit. 0.98

01:08:05.000 Things were different back then. 1.00

01:08:07.000 You could have a gay old time back then. 1.00

01:08:08.000 Things were different for Stacey. 0.99

01:08:09.000 Yeah, you could have a gay old time. 0.56

01:08:10.000 There was rumors that Charlie Sheen bought the ring, but the actor denied it. 0.94

01:08:14.000 Oh, okay.

01:08:17.000 It's just a story about lost rings from celebrities.

01:08:22.000 Charlie Sheen was a big 9-11 truther.

01:08:24.000 He even wrote an open letter to Obama demanding that they come clean about what really happened during 9-11.

01:08:31.000 He was one of them 9-11 was an inside job, guys.

01:08:35.000 Man, it just goes to show you, like, yeah, celebrity, man.

01:08:41.000 I swear to God, it's like the platform...

01:08:44.000 Is it a documentary?

01:08:45.000 He's in a movie with Whoopi Goldberg called 9-11 that came out a couple years ago.

01:08:49.000 What?

01:08:49.000 A couple years ago?

01:08:51.000 Hold the fuck up. 0.99

01:08:53.000 Whoopi Goldberg? 1.00

01:08:55.000 What?

01:08:56.000 Oh, so this is a movie about recreation.

01:08:59.000 Oh, here I am in the tower doing coke.

01:09:02.000 Look at Whoopi!

01:09:02.000 Where did this come out?

01:09:04.000 What is this nonsense?

01:09:05.000 This is a three-year-old movie?

01:09:07.000 There's Lewis Guzman.

01:09:08.000 Let me check my watch.

01:09:09.000 Oh, he's looking at his watch.

01:09:11.000 September 11th, it's about to go down.

01:09:13.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:09:15.000 This looks like maybe the worst movie of all time.

01:09:18.000 First of all, what did they do to Whoopi's hair?

01:09:20.000 They took her dreadlocks and they stuffed him in the most unimaginable wig. 0.84

01:09:24.000 It must be like, yeah, she's recreating a role.

01:09:29.000 That is insane to me.

01:09:31.000 What's crazy about Charlie is Charlie Sheen, look at what big crazy hair.

01:09:36.000 Charlie at one point in time was a super legit actor.

01:09:40.000 Like in Platoon.

01:09:42.000 He was in some fantastic movies.

01:09:45.000 Yeah, he was in Hot Shots.

01:09:47.000 I don't know if that was as good.

01:09:49.000 Major League...

01:09:51.000 Pretty good.

01:09:52.000 Hot shots and hot shots part der, man.

01:09:54.000 I mean, come on.

01:09:54.000 Not bad.

01:09:55.000 But I mean, now, like, we kind of all agree that he's just a fucking loon. 1.00

01:09:59.000 He's like a crazy person now. 0.99

01:10:01.000 I don't, you know, it's so... 0.58

01:10:03.000 Oh, the elevator's falling.

01:10:04.000 Oh, they're all falling. 1.00

01:10:05.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:10:05.000 Oh, they're fucked. 1.00

01:10:06.000 Oh. 1.00

01:10:08.000 Damn. 1.00

01:10:09.000 Oh, boy. 1.00

01:10:10.000 9-11.

01:10:11.000 9-11.

01:10:12.000 Carrera 4S. Join us.

01:10:15.000 Indeed it's September 8th.

01:10:15.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:10:16.000 Just so you could hear about it before the 11th comes around and you get worked up.

01:10:20.000 We should have a viewing party for that movie and smoke a pound of weed. 0.58

01:10:25.000 Oh, hell yeah.

01:10:25.000 And watch that.

01:10:26.000 Invite me to that.

01:10:27.000 Oh, you're in.

01:10:29.000 I wonder, do you think...

01:10:32.000 Do you think 9-11, like when 9-11 happened, that Porsche had to rebrand? 0.99

01:10:37.000 No, they didn't give a fuck. 0.99

01:10:38.000 They didn't give a fuck, did they? 1.00

01:10:39.000 It's very German. 0.99

01:10:42.000 Sorry!

01:10:42.000 Sorry, but our car was named very earlier, so...

01:10:47.000 Our car has been named this since 1960-somethings.

01:10:50.000 Yeah, so...

01:10:52.000 Yeah, No Man's Land.

01:10:53.000 He had a movie about Porsches.

01:10:54.000 Yeah, it's coming up, too.

01:10:55.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:10:56.000 Who was the other dude?

01:10:57.000 The other dude.

01:10:58.000 Oh, I know that dude.

01:10:58.000 D.B. Sweeney, yeah.

01:10:59.000 Yeah, he was like an 80s dude.

01:11:01.000 Yes, he was one of them 80s guys.

01:11:02.000 He might have been in The Wraith. 0.99

01:11:04.000 He probably made a ton of money and now he lives on a ranch somewhere in Wyoming or some shit. 1.00

01:11:08.000 That's so crazy, man. 0.99

01:11:09.000 But that No Man's Land is about D.B. Sweeney is a cop and Charlie Sheen is a Porsche thief and he only steals Porsches.

01:11:18.000 They say, what about Ferrari? 1.00

01:11:20.000 He's like, Italian trash. 1.00

01:11:22.000 Oh my lord. 1.00

01:11:23.000 He won't steal Italian trash. 1.00

01:11:24.000 A snobby car thief. 1.00

01:11:26.000 And it's a weird time for Porsches, too, because they kind of sucked. 0.99

01:11:30.000 It's like they're stealing those 80s Porsches that'll kill you because the tires sucked. 0.89

01:11:35.000 944?

01:11:36.000 Well, no, they're all 911s.

01:11:38.000 But those old 911 turbos, they have that lift throttle oversteer.

01:11:45.000 You never drove an old one, right?

01:11:47.000 No, never.

01:11:48.000 I have one out there that has a little bit of it.

01:11:50.000 I have a 964. It's an RS America, but it's pretty grippy, and it's got really good tires and an upgraded suspension.

01:11:56.000 There it is.

01:11:57.000 There's the movie.

01:11:58.000 But those old ones, when you're going around a corner, you have to stay on the gas.

01:12:05.000 You can't let off the gas if you go around the corner or they get something called lift throttle oversteer.

01:12:11.000 So as you lift off the throttle, the car will oversteer and many a dude lost their lives because the ass end kicked out because they didn't know how to drive these cars correctly.

01:12:23.000 Now, if you know how to drive the car correctly, you can actually manage that oversteer.

01:12:27.000 There's something about those old cars that once you learn how to drive them, and I'm by no means an expert in how to drive those old cars, but there's something about that sliding that you know how to time.

01:12:38.000 So you know how to time that slide and it actually gets you into these corners better.

01:12:42.000 You kind of manipulate that weight.

01:12:44.000 It's like a light form of drifting.

01:12:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:47.000 It's like inertial management.

01:12:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:50.000 I never learned how to do it, but I've experienced that in my 964 going around a corner.

01:12:55.000 You let off the gas.

01:12:56.000 It's like, hey, factors.

01:12:58.000 Oh, my God.

01:13:00.000 It gets all sloppy. 1.00

01:13:01.000 Yeah, it's just like your fucking controls. 0.99

01:13:05.000 It's like, hey. 1.00

01:13:07.000 It all fucking fucks off on you. 0.99

01:13:09.000 You start cheering Spongebob. 1.00

01:13:12.000 Oh boy, guys.

01:13:13.000 It just feels like you don't have it anymore.

01:13:17.000 And you're like, oh my god, I'm going to crash.

01:13:19.000 And then you re-correct.

01:13:21.000 If you ever have a BMW, a 2005 E46 M3, it's a great car.

01:13:30.000 It's not the fastest car in the world, but it's really, really balanced.

01:13:33.000 What is it?

01:13:34.000 3 Series?

01:13:34.000 5 Series?

01:13:35.000 3 Series.

01:13:36.000 M3. It's an M3. It's a great year. 1.00

01:13:39.000 But it's a very mechanical car.

01:13:43.000 When you're shifting it, you feel really connected to the car.

01:13:47.000 But when you go around a corner with this, if the ass end kicks out, you correct real easy.

01:13:53.000 It feels like you got it. 0.89

01:13:55.000 You're in control of this car.

01:13:56.000 You just let off the gas, right?

01:13:57.000 And it comes back in.

01:13:58.000 But you also, you could feel like what's going on.

01:14:00.000 Like you feel when it slips away a little bit, you feel very in control of it.

01:14:05.000 Like if you took it around a racetrack and you started sliding and drifting a little bit, you'd have it really quickly.

01:14:10.000 Like there's a shitload of, look up M3 E46 drift.

01:14:16.000 There's like porn, like drift porn all over YouTube of guys taking these cars and going, they're like famously well balanced.

01:14:25.000 But it's just a really well-engineered, well-balanced car, but it's front-engine.

01:14:31.000 It's built different.

01:14:33.000 That rear-engine Porsche, especially, look at these guys.

01:14:37.000 Look at how these guys are going sideways around these corners.

01:14:41.000 So many people love these cars for that very reason.

01:14:44.000 There's this one crazy video of this guy on a loading dock, and it's not very wide.

01:14:49.000 But this guy is drifting sideways and spinning around on this loading dock.

01:14:54.000 Like, look how well this guy's handling this.

01:14:56.000 But this is about this car.

01:14:58.000 These cars are...

01:14:59.000 That's not an E46, but it's another engine.

01:15:00.000 Oh my lord.

01:15:01.000 But these cars are like really easy to maneuver.

01:15:04.000 They're so controlled.

01:15:06.000 Easy drifters.

01:15:07.000 Yeah, it's just an amazing car.

01:15:08.000 That's a beautiful E46 right there.

01:15:11.000 Wow. 0.96

01:15:13.000 But these cars, when they spin, when the ass end spins, you just correct.

01:15:18.000 And you can handle it and use it to drift around cones like this guy's doing.

01:15:23.000 Man, have you seen Hyperdrive on Netflix?

01:15:27.000 No.

01:15:28.000 What is that?

01:15:28.000 It's like a drifting competition.

01:15:30.000 But they set up this course on an old abandoned factory.

01:15:36.000 Oh, wow.

01:15:37.000 And it kind of reminds me of- Inside?

01:15:40.000 What's that?

01:15:40.000 Inside?

01:15:41.000 No, it's all outside.

01:15:41.000 It's like a big outside, like machinery, kind of like, you know, towers, everything.

01:15:45.000 And they have these drivers from all over the world, Germany, Japan.

01:15:48.000 It's like Cannonball Run.

01:15:49.000 Remember Cannonball Run from the 80s, the movie?

01:15:51.000 Oh, wow.

01:15:51.000 So there's like all these like racers.

01:15:53.000 There's a husband, wife, German team.

01:15:55.000 They each drive their own car.

01:15:56.000 There's a couple guys from Japan, a bunch of brasilaros, some guys from Brazil, Americans, this woman from Florida who I follow on Instagram, who's badass. 0.98

01:16:07.000 She had a really amazing run. 0.98

01:16:10.000 And women, men, people of...

01:16:12.000 Not a lot of people of color, but definitely a pretty diverse crew from all over the world. 0.99

01:16:18.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:16:18.000 They're going up this giant ramp? 0.99

01:16:20.000 They have to balance that.

01:16:22.000 So you have to keep going back and forth until you find the balance point.

01:16:25.000 Then it turns green.

01:16:26.000 Once it turns green, then you can go forward on the course.

01:16:28.000 And almost everybody lost it.

01:16:30.000 But all these people... 0.99

01:16:33.000 They're so sick. 0.97

01:16:34.000 They're some of the best drivers in the world.

01:16:36.000 But the thing that really brought a tear to my eye was that they're all rooting for each other.

01:16:40.000 Like, all of them are rooting for each other because there's never been a thing like it.

01:16:44.000 And I mean, there's definitely drift competitions, but there's never been a thing like this.

01:16:49.000 Wait, executive producer Charisse Theron?

01:16:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:52.000 What is she?

01:16:53.000 What?

01:16:54.000 That's her! 1.00

01:16:55.000 I think she's just in it.

01:16:56.000 She's a drift freak. 1.00

01:16:57.000 Mad Max.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, remember Mad Max?

01:16:59.000 Yeah.

01:16:59.000 So I'm sure someone approached her about it and she liked cars enough to put her name onto it.

01:17:04.000 But watch this thing.

01:17:06.000 You'll love it.

01:17:07.000 It's some of the best precision driving I've ever seen.

01:17:12.000 I have a boner.

01:17:13.000 It's so good. 0.97

01:17:17.000 And they're killing it.

01:17:18.000 And the thing is, they can't repair their cars.

01:17:22.000 They can patch them up between runs, but they can't modify them.

01:17:25.000 They can't bring in new parts.

01:17:28.000 What about tires?

01:17:29.000 Can you replace tires?

01:17:30.000 I think tires between the different courses, you can change stuff.

01:17:35.000 But I think during the race, and then there's another race right after that, I think you can do some patch-up stuff.

01:17:43.000 There's this French dude. 0.97

01:17:44.000 He had a car that just would not fucking die. 0.99

01:17:47.000 What was it? 0.99

01:17:48.000 I think it was a French car.

01:17:50.000 I think it was a...

01:17:52.000 I think it might have been a...

01:17:54.000 Renault?

01:17:54.000 I don't know if it was Renault.

01:17:55.000 It might have been a Citroën.

01:17:56.000 I don't know.

01:17:57.000 It was one of those.

01:17:58.000 I like how you said that.

01:17:59.000 If I was on a day with you as a girl, I'd be very excited.

01:18:01.000 This guy's cultured.

01:18:04.000 He probably reads.

01:18:08.000 He probably watches movies with reading in them.

01:18:10.000 You have to read the words.

01:18:11.000 I can subtitle and see the imagery at the same time.

01:18:14.000 That's crazy!

01:18:15.000 I know, I know.

01:18:16.000 Let's go have some wine in a park six feet away from each other.

01:18:19.000 Do they have a specific kind of car that dominates these things?

01:18:22.000 Is it like smaller sports cars?

01:18:25.000 Do they use muscle cars at all?

01:18:26.000 It's everything.

01:18:27.000 Like the kind of the favorite Brazil guy, there were two Brazil racers actually, a really young guy who was like, he and his father have this amazing relationship and he's super regimented and strict about his training and stuff like that.

01:18:39.000 And then this other dude, who's his friend, that he taught the younger guy how to drift.

01:18:46.000 So it's interesting.

01:18:47.000 They know each other and they're competing against each other.

01:18:49.000 But the guy, the older guy, he wears this cowboy hat and he wrecked his car and didn't have enough money to build a new car for drifting years and years ago.

01:18:58.000 So it was a big deal for him to put a car together.

01:19:00.000 But it's like...

01:19:01.000 I forget what it is, but it's a monster American car. 0.94

01:19:04.000 It's like...

01:19:06.000 Oh, that it right there?

01:19:08.000 That might be it.

01:19:09.000 It's a Dodge Charger, son.

01:19:10.000 Yeah, it's a Charger. 0.99

01:19:10.000 You don't know what the fuck that is? 0.99

01:19:12.000 Yeah, it's a Charger. 0.99

01:19:12.000 I was going to say that. 0.99

01:19:13.000 How dare you?

01:19:13.000 Well, I just didn't remember.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, this guy should have a Roadrunner on the side.

01:19:17.000 That's a dope car. 0.98

01:19:18.000 Jeff Tweedy.

01:19:18.000 Yeah, well, they put a crazy fin on the back of it.

01:19:21.000 Yeah.

01:19:22.000 I guess that's probably a functional fin. 0.99

01:19:24.000 He's a monster.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, it is functional.

01:19:26.000 But he was in that car.

01:19:29.000 And so you're talking about going through shipping containers.

01:19:31.000 It's a big car.

01:19:32.000 With three inches of room on either side.

01:19:34.000 And he was bombing them.

01:19:36.000 And, like, didn't lose his rear view mirror.

01:19:38.000 His side view mirrors.

01:19:39.000 Really?

01:19:39.000 Yeah.

01:19:40.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

01:19:41.000 There's shit. 1.00

01:19:41.000 I swear, you're going to, like... 1.00

01:19:42.000 There's going to definitely be some tears shed. 1.00

01:19:44.000 Because some of the shit that people pull off on this race... 1.00

01:19:47.000 And it's anybody's race. 1.00

01:19:48.000 Because sometimes, like...

01:19:50.000 I forget the woman from Florida, but she killed it on one of her runs, and I was like, oh my god, she's going to go really, really far.

01:19:57.000 And then she just had a car problem.

01:19:58.000 They had problems with a pressurized hose system that's supposed to hit the car if you don't clear a certain thing. 0.99

01:20:05.000 This guy's fucking drifting on this snowy road in a 68 Charger! 0.99

01:20:09.000 Oh my god, look at all the snow and ice! 1.00

01:20:11.000 This is so unpredictable. 0.96

01:20:12.000 Yeah, this guy's a monster. 1.00

01:20:14.000 I want to just grab him and hug him and say, cut that wing off. 1.00

01:20:16.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:20:17.000 Cut that disgusting wing. 1.00

01:20:19.000 He drifted his way into a tunnel!

01:20:21.000 Bonus drift.

01:20:22.000 Oh my god, that's so dangerous.

01:20:24.000 You're gonna lose your mind over that show, because I can't wait for the second season to come out.

01:20:28.000 Bro, if you're gonna talk drifting, you gotta talk Ken Block. 0.99

01:20:29.000 Have you ever seen that shit that he did, that Hoonigan shit that he did with that Mustang? 0.99

01:20:33.000 No. 1.00

01:20:34.000 Oh my god! 0.74

01:20:36.000 No, Block is a monster. 0.63

01:20:38.000 The most insane, I want to say, is a 65 Mustang? 0.53

01:20:43.000 Somewhere in the...

01:20:44.000 I think it's one of the earlier generation Mustangs, and it's like the most ridiculously modified Mustang.

01:20:51.000 It's got...

01:20:52.000 There it is. 1.00

01:20:52.000 Look at this fucking thing. 1.00

01:20:54.000 It might actually be a 67. Okay, so you're there with Matt LeBlanc, who... 0.99

01:20:59.000 Je suis Matt LeBlanc.

01:21:01.000 Who, trivia, grew up in the same town as me.

01:21:03.000 Oh, really?

01:21:04.000 Yeah, Newton, Massachusetts.

01:21:05.000 Shout out to Matt.

01:21:06.000 I used to hear about him because he dated girls that I knew.

01:21:11.000 Oh, man.

01:21:12.000 Look at that car, man. 1.00

01:21:13.000 So Ken Block has this fucking ridiculous car, like super... 1.00

01:21:17.000 I think it's a four-wheel drive car, too. 1.00

01:21:19.000 And he's got these crazy shifters and these e-brakes and shit. 1.00

01:21:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:21:24.000 Those big-ass... 1.00

01:21:25.000 Man, you're going to get a kick. 1.00

01:21:28.000 These guys are like doing that shit, but on a course. 1.00

01:21:32.000 That's insane. 1.00

01:21:32.000 There's a dude, classic, again, cannonball run shit. 1.00

01:21:36.000 This white dude, Lamborghini Huracan, I believe, makes it four-wheel drive. 0.99

01:21:42.000 Or no, it's a four-wheel drive car.

01:21:45.000 He modifies it so that he can turn off four-wheel drive.

01:21:49.000 So make it four-wheel drive or rear-wheel drive for different events.

01:21:53.000 So his take was that he was going to tech out everything.

01:21:57.000 And when he went on runs, he had the auto-fold mirrors.

01:21:59.000 So he'd fold in his mirrors so he wouldn't break his mirrors off. 0.99

01:22:02.000 And all this shit. 0.99

01:22:03.000 And he actually made it quite a ways. 0.99

01:22:05.000 But it was like the Japanese team in Cannonball Run had that crazy teched-out car or whatever.

01:22:11.000 I had such a blast.

01:22:15.000 That's a fun-looking show, man.

01:22:17.000 It's funny you're talking about Brazil.

01:22:19.000 Did you ever watch that documentary on Ayrton Senna?

01:22:22.000 Oh, yes!

01:22:24.000 Amazing, right?

01:22:26.000 Man, racing spirit, man.

01:22:28.000 Dude, that documentary shows you like what fine line exists between being the very best and someone who dies in a crash.

01:22:39.000 Yes. 0.91

01:22:39.000 It's so, they're riding this fucking razor edge of performance and Ayrton Senna was famous for having these spectacular instincts, but ultimately died in a crash. 0.91

01:22:51.000 Yeah, I mean, and unfortunately, you know, fortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately, he had the crash, but then they changed so much, you know, because the racers were complaining about, like, how dangerous it was. 0.81

01:23:02.000 Well, he was responsible in some way for the design of the NSX. Oh, really?

01:23:09.000 Yeah, they had an Ayrton Senna version of the NSX that didn't have a sunroof.

01:23:13.000 It had a solid fixed roof, and I think they did some different modifications to the suspension.

01:23:21.000 It's kind of crazy when you look at it, you know, we were talking about cars earlier before we started the show, and modern sports cars are so goddamn fast, they have so much horsepower, but the NSX, when it came out, I think, I want to say it had 275 horsepower.

01:23:36.000 That's a lot for a tiny car.

01:23:37.000 That wasn't that big of a car.

01:23:38.000 It was slow, bro.

01:23:39.000 Trust me.

01:23:39.000 I had one.

01:23:40.000 It was slow.

01:23:41.000 I think...

01:23:42.000 Was that the very first...

01:23:44.000 That's the Ayrton Senna version.

01:23:46.000 Oh, wait a minute.

01:23:48.000 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 So that's...

01:23:50.000 Look at that.

01:23:52.000 I want to say this is like early 90s.

01:23:54.000 Well, it's flip windows or flip lights.

01:23:58.000 So it is an earlier version of it.

01:24:00.000 That's crazy.

01:24:01.000 Yeah, I think my mind...

01:24:02.000 Oh, no.

01:24:03.000 I was thinking of Acura Integra.

01:24:06.000 That seems like it's got a body kit.

01:24:07.000 That seems very modified.

01:24:08.000 No, that's a huge body kit.

01:24:09.000 Are you kidding?

01:24:09.000 There's that second intake on the bottom and then there's the side skirts that were added and it's been lowered.

01:24:14.000 Yeah, and then the hood.

01:24:14.000 That's not the...

01:24:15.000 No, that's a super ducked out.

01:24:17.000 Someone went crazy with that one.

01:24:19.000 Yeah.

01:24:20.000 It's nice.

01:24:21.000 Yeah, you can still find them.

01:24:24.000 They're all red.

01:24:25.000 They're all red with a black roof, and you can still find them for sale, but they're obscenely expensive now.

01:24:32.000 They're a great little car, though.

01:24:35.000 There's something about those cars, too.

01:24:36.000 You feel like you're in a jet, because the way the cockpit sits, it's very purpose-driven.

01:24:43.000 It's a really great car.

01:24:44.000 I had two of them, actually.

01:24:45.000 Oh, wow.

01:24:46.000 Yeah, I had one with the flip-up lights, and then there he is.

01:24:50.000 Ayrton Senna.

01:24:51.000 What do you think of the new NSX? It's great.

01:24:54.000 It's a great car, but it's not the same thing.

01:24:57.000 Yeah.

01:24:57.000 Like, it's a supercar with four-wheel drive and a hybrid engine, and it's got electric engines.

01:25:02.000 Two electric motors, yeah.

01:25:03.000 And also a gasoline engine.

01:25:04.000 It's spectacularly fast.

01:25:06.000 Yeah.

01:25:07.000 But the old NSX was an aluminum car that was rear-wheel drive, mid-engine, six-speed.

01:25:12.000 Wow.

01:25:13.000 And it was an amazing little light car.

01:25:16.000 I want to say it was like 2,400 pounds or something really light.

01:25:19.000 That's crazy light.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, crazy light.

01:25:20.000 Like aluminum, you know?

01:25:22.000 Yeah.

01:25:25.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:25:35.000 But they fucking break like crazy because my people make them. 1.00

01:25:38.000 You don't want my people engineering. 1.00

01:25:41.000 They're fucking animals. 1.00

01:25:42.000 You don't want those fucking posse-eating chimps designing your shit. 1.00

01:25:47.000 Maybe the way it looks, but then you hand it over to a German guy or a Japanese person. 1.00

01:25:52.000 No, no, this won't do it.

01:25:53.000 So the Japanese are like, we got it, dude. 0.73

01:25:56.000 Just sit down.

01:25:57.000 I see what you're doing.

01:25:58.000 I see what you're doing.

01:25:59.000 And we're going to make one that doesn't break.

01:26:01.000 Yeah.

01:26:01.000 I mean, I love those challenges back and forth.

01:26:04.000 I mean, you know, I love that.

01:26:06.000 I mean, I saw that.

01:26:07.000 Finally saw that Ford Ferrari movie.

01:26:09.000 I still haven't seen it.

01:26:10.000 I was glad I saw it.

01:26:11.000 I know they took some liberties here and there.

01:26:13.000 But, yeah, kind of a cool lesson in decisions that companies make about emotional products, you know, and also just like, you know, dudes being dudes or whatever.

01:26:28.000 Like, well, we're going to create a race program that's going... 0.80

01:26:31.000 Derail the Italians. 1.00

01:26:33.000 And then them changing their...

01:26:35.000 The Italians going like, I've changed my mind. 1.00

01:26:39.000 I go with other company.

01:26:40.000 Whatever.

01:26:42.000 The whole thing is obviously very dramatic.

01:26:44.000 But it is wonderful to see what can happen if people just put their heads together and go, you know what? 0.99

01:26:50.000 We're going to fucking create a sick race car right now. 0.98

01:26:53.000 And we're going to get an amazing team together. 0.99

01:26:55.000 We're going to put it together.

01:26:57.000 And the modern GT is gorgeous.

01:26:59.000 It's a car that I've wanted for a long time.

01:27:02.000 The modern GT, especially the light version, the all carbon fiber version of it.

01:27:07.000 You can buy one, but they're like a million dollars.

01:27:10.000 They're too much, and you have to go into this special thing where you have to know somebody who gets you in it.

01:27:15.000 Well, now you can get them because the two-year expiration date has passed.

01:27:18.000 You can actually get them on the resale market.

01:27:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:21.000 There's one for sale like a mile away from here.

01:27:22.000 Really?

01:27:23.000 Go look at it.

01:27:24.000 I don't know.

01:27:25.000 I'm happy with my car.

01:27:25.000 They're too expensive.

01:27:26.000 Yeah, my car is like, I'm very happy with it.

01:27:29.000 No, you have a beautiful car.

01:27:31.000 It's a good, and I like my Tesla too, which is what I drive most of the time.

01:27:35.000 Do you tell people what your other car is that we're talking about?

01:27:36.000 Are we going to keep it a mystery?

01:27:38.000 You say it like I love my car.

01:27:40.000 For the first time on national TV. I mean, yeah, we can say what it is.

01:27:44.000 I mean, it's kind of a car that means a lot to me because a weird thing, my dad was a car dude and I never understood it.

01:27:51.000 Oh, really?

01:27:52.000 Yeah, my mom told me stories about basically when he met her, he had an Opal.

01:27:59.000 It was kind of a cheap Opal.

01:28:00.000 And then he ended up buying a Pontiac Firebird.

01:28:05.000 I forget what color it was, but it was a type of green.

01:28:11.000 Anyways, he had this amazing American sports car in Europe, and everyone was freaking out over it.

01:28:16.000 And he had that, and then his second car was a...

01:28:19.000 I can't remember what his third car was, but then his car after that was a Chrysler Cordoba, which was kind of just like a classy, chill, kind of, yeah, like a luxury sedan is what it was.

01:28:33.000 But it was still two-door, so it was a luxury coupe, I guess.

01:28:37.000 He had that, and he loved cars.

01:28:38.000 And I just didn't put that together.

01:28:40.000 So then when I finally got my stuff together, and I had enough credit, thanks to my business managers, and knock on wood, I had enough credit where this car that I have, it cost me very little money.

01:28:54.000 It was like $5,000 to get into it.

01:28:57.000 What?

01:28:57.000 Yeah.

01:28:58.000 How's that possible?

01:28:59.000 I don't know.

01:29:00.000 $5,000 down payment?

01:29:02.000 And then you pay per month?

01:29:03.000 Yeah.

01:29:03.000 Oh, okay.

01:29:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:04.000 I was like, that car is not a $5,000.

01:29:06.000 Somebody's lying to you.

01:29:07.000 No, no, no.

01:29:07.000 No, it's a $5,000 car.

01:29:09.000 Let me look at your book.

01:29:10.000 Someone's lying to you, Reggie. 0.96

01:29:11.000 Goddammit, Joe Rogan. 1.00

01:29:12.000 Somebody fucked you over. 1.00

01:29:12.000 That is how much it costs. 1.00

01:29:13.000 $5,000. 0.60

01:29:14.000 Your manager's a creep.

01:29:15.000 There's cocaine in your car. 0.95

01:29:17.000 Well, maybe.

01:29:18.000 It's a Porsche 911, a Carrera 4S, 992, the new one.

01:29:22.000 It's a dope car.

01:29:23.000 I'm very impressed with it.

01:29:25.000 This is the first time I've seen one of the new ones in person.

01:29:28.000 And I was saying that your car is, it's not understated, but it is compared to the Turbo S, but it's the perfect amount of sleek design, but slightly, compared to a car, for the amount of performance that that car has under the hood,

01:29:45.000 Or under the bonnet, I guess you would say, because it's the rear.

01:29:47.000 That's right.

01:29:48.000 Would they say the bonnet?

01:29:49.000 No, I guess they would.

01:29:50.000 I don't know what they call it.

01:29:51.000 Well, there is no back hatch for it.

01:29:55.000 The bonnet is what the British call the front, right?

01:29:56.000 The bonnet is the front, yes.

01:29:58.000 The boot is the trunk.

01:30:00.000 But it's not a boot.

01:30:01.000 And you can't see it.

01:30:03.000 You can't see the engine on the U99s.

01:30:04.000 Oh yeah, you see like two fans.

01:30:05.000 Yeah, it's two fans.

01:30:06.000 That's it.

01:30:07.000 So you have the 4S. It is a fucking beautiful car, man. 0.99

01:30:11.000 But it's like, it's so sleek. 0.99

01:30:13.000 Yeah.

01:30:14.000 Understated.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, it's super sexy.

01:30:16.000 It's really weird.

01:30:17.000 Sometimes I look at it and I'm like, that looks pretty badass.

01:30:20.000 And then the other night I had it parked at night and I showed my friend.

01:30:23.000 We walked up to it and it just looks so crazy sexy.

01:30:27.000 Like in a way that I'm not used to feeling about a car.

01:30:32.000 It feels.

01:30:33.000 But it was built.

01:30:35.000 I do.

01:30:36.000 Sorry.

01:30:37.000 I get feels.

01:30:38.000 It was built in the town I was born in.

01:30:41.000 It was built in Stuttgart.

01:30:42.000 Sorry, the Porsche is from Stuttgart.

01:30:44.000 I think it was actually built in another village.

01:30:46.000 How come some of them have the big fat single exhaust tips, the two tips, and then yours has four tips?

01:30:53.000 That's the sports exhaust.

01:30:54.000 I kind of like the way yours looks better.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:30:57.000 I thought that I ordered...

01:30:58.000 There's a couple things that I didn't include in the spec that I thought I did.

01:31:01.000 So they didn't come, but I'm actually glad that I didn't get them.

01:31:05.000 But the sports exhaust was one.

01:31:06.000 And I realized sports exhaust doesn't give you any performance at all.

01:31:10.000 Just makes it louder.

01:31:10.000 Just makes it louder, which I didn't really understand.

01:31:13.000 I thought sports exhaust, it must get rid of...

01:31:15.000 It must exhaust better.

01:31:17.000 It just makes you a more obnoxious person.

01:31:18.000 Yeah, and I'm glad because I don't want to attract attention.

01:31:21.000 It's a beautiful car, man.

01:31:22.000 It's so well engineered, man. 0.99

01:31:25.000 There's so many things you were telling me that it does that I didn't know, like the night vision shit. 0.97

01:31:29.000 Yeah, the surround view, when you're backing up, that's a lifesaver. 0.95

01:31:32.000 I've always wanted to have that in a car.

01:31:35.000 God, that car's sick.

01:31:36.000 And it has tech that all cars should have, you know?

01:31:38.000 I mean, the way I viewed it is like, you know, I wanted to drive a Porsche because everybody who drives Porsche always says the same thing.

01:31:45.000 It's the benchmark.

01:31:46.000 It's like, it's a driver's car.

01:31:48.000 Why do you have to say it like that, bro?

01:31:49.000 Well, because that's what it sounded like in the beginning to me.

01:31:53.000 Because I was like, okay, okay, okay. 1.00

01:31:55.000 Settle down, asshole. 1.00

01:31:56.000 It's like everyone going, like, Game of Thrones. 1.00

01:31:58.000 You've got to see Game of Thrones.

01:31:59.000 That's me.

01:31:59.000 I haven't seen it.

01:32:01.000 I will not see it.

01:32:01.000 You've got to see it.

01:32:02.000 I'm not going to see it.

01:32:02.000 We're not going to talk about anything else.

01:32:03.000 Oh, damn it. 0.99

01:32:04.000 No. 1.00

01:32:06.000 It's the greatest show in the history of the world.

01:32:07.000 Sure, okay.

01:32:08.000 How dare you?

01:32:09.000 I know.

01:32:09.000 I'm sorry.

01:32:10.000 I'm so sorry.

01:32:10.000 I'll get to it.

01:32:11.000 For you, I'll do it.

01:32:12.000 Please, thank you.

01:32:13.000 But people were right about the Porsche.

01:32:15.000 But they were right.

01:32:16.000 Because I purposefully didn't.

01:32:18.000 I never rented one.

01:32:19.000 I never drove one.

01:32:20.000 And I never drove one until I had one.

01:32:22.000 And as soon as I took my first drive, it was like me and my assistant, because my assistant has been with me for like 12 years.

01:32:29.000 And she helped me, you know, with all this stuff.

01:32:31.000 That's a big leap.

01:32:31.000 So you just buy it.

01:32:33.000 You didn't even test drive it.

01:32:34.000 I didn't test drive it.

01:32:35.000 Because when people speak enough about this, you know, Porsche, [... 0.98

01:32:40.000 Like, they're not, no one's making this shit up. 0.97

01:32:43.000 And so, and I drove it. 0.99

01:32:44.000 You should talk to someone who's really into Scientology.

01:32:46.000 You might be wrong about that. 1.00

01:32:49.000 There's a lot of people that are into shit that's nonsense. 1.00

01:32:52.000 But this is not a nonsense car. 1.00

01:32:55.000 That's a masterful piece of engineering.

01:32:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I drove it from Montana down to L.A., and I thought it was going to be uncomfortable.

01:33:02.000 I was like, that's a sports car.

01:33:03.000 It's going to be uncomfortable.

01:33:05.000 Because I had an Audi TTRS before this, and that had the track suspension, and that was an unforgiving suspension.

01:33:11.000 Everywhere you went, you were like, ugh, ugh, ugh.

01:33:13.000 You're just getting thrown all over the place.

01:33:15.000 And this car is so civilized.

01:33:19.000 And when you're on the road, you're like, I can do anything, but I'm just going to chill.

01:33:25.000 For me, I just kind of set my cruise control.

01:33:27.000 That's the other thing.

01:33:28.000 It has adaptive cruise control, which is a very, very important thing when it comes to...

01:33:32.000 Any car, really, but a sports car especially, and I didn't have it in the TTR. So if you're in bumper-to-bumper traffic, you're just pedaling back and forth, pedaling back and forth, and it sucks.

01:33:42.000 But with the Porsche, I just set it, you know, and just cruise, and it had lane keep assist.

01:33:47.000 But you have a Tesla.

01:33:48.000 I have a Tesla, yeah.

01:33:49.000 But doesn't your Tesla do that, too?

01:33:51.000 Well, Tesla does autopilot, which is a whole nother league.

01:33:54.000 That's my favorite.

01:33:56.000 That's my absolute favorite.

01:33:57.000 I love autopilot.

01:33:58.000 When I come home from the commie store and it's late at night, That is the move.

01:34:02.000 Yes.

01:34:02.000 I just love it.

01:34:03.000 I'm a little tired.

01:34:04.000 I don't feel like driving.

01:34:05.000 I just put a couple fingers on that thing and kind of pay attention.

01:34:09.000 I pay attention, but get it going.

01:34:11.000 Just let it take over.

01:34:15.000 It's so sweet.

01:34:18.000 I've been using autopilot for probably 70% of my drives since it came out.

01:34:24.000 And there's some new upgrade that I got, but I haven't done anything to it.

01:34:27.000 There's some new upgrade, like full autopilot.

01:34:30.000 I don't know what that does.

01:34:31.000 I did that too.

01:34:34.000 Yeah, it's not really doing a lot right now yet.

01:34:37.000 It's starting to recognize traffic lights.

01:34:40.000 So you will get a warning when a traffic light's turning yellow to red.

01:34:45.000 There'll be that.

01:34:46.000 That's the beginning of that.

01:34:47.000 And then...

01:34:48.000 There's a couple other things, like physical stop sign.

01:34:52.000 It can read, oh, there's a stop sign.

01:34:55.000 Things like that.

01:34:55.000 But nothing is automated.

01:34:58.000 Those aren't automated.

01:34:59.000 They're only recognition things.

01:35:00.000 So right now it's recognizing things that it could be active in, but it's not doing it.

01:35:06.000 Interesting.

01:35:07.000 Yeah.

01:35:07.000 I love autopilot.

01:35:09.000 I mean, I will say with the Porsche, that's my last gas car that I'm going to get.

01:35:13.000 I just wanted to experience it.

01:35:16.000 And know what it's about.

01:35:18.000 And then I'm going to probably move on to, I don't know, something.

01:35:21.000 Or maybe I'll just, you know, something will happen and the world will completely change and I'll have no access to my resources and I'll just go back to just gardening.

01:35:29.000 Yeah, man, you might have to get an axe.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, I'll have to get an axe.

01:35:32.000 Learn how to start a fire with two sticks.

01:35:33.000 Yeah, you know, but I grew up a boy scout.

01:35:35.000 I'm ready, man.

01:35:37.000 You know, it's like that, what is that Einstein quote?

01:35:39.000 I don't know what weapons they're going to use in World War III, but World War IV will be fought with sticks.

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:44.000 Oh, I love that.

01:35:46.000 That's beautiful.

01:35:47.000 That's totally true.

01:35:48.000 I mean, we're going to see, man.

01:35:52.000 We're going to see.

01:35:53.000 Well, they're fighting this with rocks.

01:35:55.000 Yeah, I know.

01:35:56.000 Yeah.

01:35:57.000 With provided rocks.

01:35:58.000 Yeah.

01:35:59.000 God.

01:36:00.000 It's like, are they, they're trying to corporatize?

01:36:03.000 I don't know.

01:36:04.000 I'm not going to go back there.

01:36:06.000 I'm so confused.

01:36:07.000 All I know is I'm going to do my best to promote...

01:36:10.000 Peace and love.

01:36:11.000 Peace and love and understanding and education, education, education.

01:36:15.000 This is the perfect storm with all these people out of work.

01:36:18.000 I think that was ultimately extremely irresponsible.

01:36:23.000 To just shut the economy down for as long as they did. 0.76

01:36:26.000 I think it's a terrible idea.

01:36:28.000 I think it creates unrest.

01:36:30.000 When you see unrest in all these countries, you're not seeing it in rich communities.

01:36:36.000 You're not seeing people in Calabasas lashing out.

01:36:39.000 It's not a Beverly Hills thing.

01:36:40.000 It's the things that happen when people don't have anything. 0.99

01:36:43.000 You've greatly increased the amount of people that are fucked. 0.96

01:36:47.000 And then you've thrown this horrific circumstance where we all get to watch a video of someone being murdered by a cop while these other cops sit around and watch. 0.99

01:36:57.000 And then this is all compounded by all these videos. 0.97

01:36:59.000 There's a video that I tweeted where this fucking guy is at a stoplight And these Denver cops are shooting his car with pepper gas. 0.99

01:37:09.000 And he's like, hey man, my fucking pregnant girlfriend's in this car. 1.00

01:37:12.000 Are you fucking guys really shooting? 1.00

01:37:13.000 I'm like, I'm not a criminal. 1.00

01:37:14.000 And so they keep shooting it.

01:37:16.000 They shoot at his car more. 0.99

01:37:18.000 So as he's sitting there in his car, they're shooting pepper canisters, whatever the fuck they have. 1.00

01:37:24.000 Shooting pepper spray at his fucking car. 1.00

01:37:27.000 I'm like, what are you doing? 1.00

01:37:29.000 There's so many videos of these cops doing horrible shit during this time. 0.99

01:37:33.000 And they know that they're being filmed, which is really crazy to me. 0.99

01:37:36.000 They think they're protected because they're wearing riot gear and no one could recognize them.

01:37:39.000 Look at this.

01:37:40.000 So these guys are standing there. 1.00

01:37:41.000 Give me a volume on this so you can hear this fucking guy. 1.00

01:37:44.000 Can you hear it? 1.00

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:48.000 Are you? 1.00

01:37:49.000 Shoot it! 1.00

01:37:50.000 Fuck you! 1.00

01:37:51.000 You shot a car with a pregnant woman in it! 1.00

01:37:54.000 With fucking tear gas! 1.00

01:37:56.000 Fuck you! 1.00

01:37:57.000 I ain't going no way! 1.00

01:37:58.000 Fuck you bitches! 1.00

01:38:01.000 Fuck you! 1.00

01:38:02.000 Shoot it again! 1.00

01:38:03.000 Please fucking break it! 1.00

01:38:05.000 Shoot it again! 1.00

01:38:08.000 Look, they're shooting tear gas at his car. 0.77

01:38:12.000 Like why?

01:38:15.000 The pregnant woman in the car. 1.00

01:38:16.000 First of all, you're being a fucking moron. 1.00

01:38:19.000 Because this pregnant woman's in the car and you're asking them to shoot tear gas at him. 1.00

01:38:23.000 I know, I know.

01:38:23.000 He's definitely exacerbating it.

01:38:25.000 But at the same time, they should be not doing that at all.

01:38:28.000 At all.

01:38:28.000 Because there's no reason.

01:38:29.000 This is not like this guy's a threat to humanity.

01:38:31.000 He's not a threat.

01:38:32.000 He's just impassioned and he's loud and he's saying stuff.

01:38:35.000 And it's like, they've got all the gear.

01:38:37.000 They have to show the restraint.

01:38:38.000 They're having fun shooting in a car with a pregnant woman inside of it. 0.97

01:38:41.000 Just the fact that they knew that there's a pregnant woman inside of it.

01:38:44.000 It's just insane to me.

01:38:45.000 I mean... 0.99

01:38:46.000 Someone should have gone over there, liked that fucking sheriff from Flint, talked to him, apologized, and then keep the car moving. 0.97

01:38:53.000 The problem is, you know, my friend Tim Kennedy was tweeting this, that there needs to be some... 0.97

01:38:58.000 He's a ranger, a special forces guy, and used to fight in the UFC, and he tweeted there needs to be some sort of a fundamental change in how we train law enforcement.

01:39:06.000 Exactly.

01:39:06.000 And I think the way they train, like if you go through BUDS, if you become a Navy SEAL, you have to be exceptional.

01:39:13.000 You have to be an exceptional human being to get through that.

01:39:15.000 And that's the way they weed out the people that can't cut it.

01:39:19.000 That's how they do it.

01:39:20.000 But they don't do that for the cops.

01:39:22.000 For the cops, it's far easier.

01:39:24.000 And you're around civilian life, you're around cities and urban areas, and you're dealing with constant conflict.

01:39:33.000 And so you don't weed out the people.

01:39:35.000 You actually actively recruit people.

01:39:38.000 I remember driving down Sunset Boulevard, I was talking about the great...

01:39:41.000 Great pay that you could get being a Los Angeles police officer because nobody wanted to be a cop in L.A. They're fucking advertising. 0.99

01:39:47.000 Like, hey, why don't you work at Chipotle? 1.00

01:39:49.000 Hey, why don't you be a cop and get shot at? 1.00

01:39:52.000 It's fucking crazy! 1.00

01:39:54.000 It's in the same line as working at the farmer's market. 1.00

01:39:58.000 You can also be a police officer.

01:40:00.000 And look, there are great cops, man.

01:40:03.000 There's great cops.

01:40:04.000 There's great people out there.

01:40:05.000 But it's a hard job and it is not for everybody.

01:40:08.000 It's a hard job.

01:40:09.000 It's not for everybody.

01:40:10.000 And they just need to do a better job of training and weeding out.

01:40:14.000 They really, really need to do.

01:40:16.000 And they need to make their officers accountable and not be afraid to like, oh, you know, so-and-so's blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:40:24.000 It's like, oh, no, that's a snitch or whatever.

01:40:25.000 Or we're going to fucking demote you or we're going to put you on traffic duty or whatever. 1.00

01:40:29.000 It's like that shit needs to stop. 0.99

01:40:32.000 It's like take your job seriously, man. 1.00

01:40:33.000 And it's existed across the board.

01:40:35.000 It's been there forever.

01:40:36.000 Did you ever see the documentary, The 7-5?

01:40:39.000 No.

01:40:40.000 It's a documentary about corrupt cops in New York.

01:40:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:42.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.99

01:40:43.000 It's amazing. 0.99

01:40:45.000 The guy who was the head guy in The 7-5 that we had on the podcast.

01:40:51.000 Mike Dowd.

01:40:52.000 Yeah, Mike Dowd. 0.99

01:40:53.000 Mike Dowd, who's a great guy, who's a real piece of shit back in the day, but owns it and talks about it. 0.99

01:41:00.000 I mean, he was driving a Corvette and selling drugs and helping drug dealers. 0.99

01:41:04.000 But I mean, shit that you wouldn't believe it was in a movie. 0.99

01:41:08.000 And it was all real. 0.99

01:41:09.000 And the film documents all of it.

01:41:12.000 It is madness.

01:41:14.000 I mean, top to bottom, beginning to end, madness. 1.00

01:41:18.000 The documentary you watch at the end, you're fucking sweating and you're like, holy shit! 0.99

01:41:22.000 Like, these guys were living like this. 1.00

01:41:25.000 Selling coke, robbing drug dealers, coming out of there with bags of cash.

01:41:29.000 Like, crazy!

01:41:31.000 Oh my god.

01:41:32.000 I mean, yeah.

01:41:33.000 Cops! 0.78

01:41:33.000 I know, cops. 0.78

01:41:34.000 I know.

01:41:35.000 I know.

01:41:36.000 And I talked to my friend Scotty, Scotty Reitz, or back in the day, he was just like saying like, I was in SWAT in the 70s in LA. And we were part of the first league of SWAT. And he's like, the shit that people would do that he would see in the department all the time and would They had to deal with and then there were all like those purges that happened throughout the the years You know once yeah,

01:41:56.000 there'd be this corruption thing and then they would just have to fucking let go. 0.99

01:41:59.000 How about the rampart unit, right? 0.97

01:42:01.000 Didn't they disband that?

01:42:02.000 Oh, what was the rampart unit?

01:42:03.000 That was the people that they suspected someone from the rampart unit of killing Biggie They think that yeah, yeah, there was a crazy Rolling Stone article that someone paid him off They suggested it was Suge Knight that was involved and Oh my god.

01:42:20.000 Yes.

01:42:20.000 Crazy.

01:42:22.000 Yeah, well, you know, the police department needs to police itself.

01:42:25.000 The ultimate police corruption documentary is Cocaine Cowboys.

01:42:29.000 Have you seen that?

01:42:30.000 Oh, I've heard of that.

01:42:31.000 Oh my goodness.

01:42:33.000 Cocaine Cowboys and Cocaine Cowboys 2 are probably in my top ten of all-time favorite documentaries.

01:42:39.000 Okay.

01:42:40.000 Billy Corbin, the director, on the podcast several times.

01:42:42.000 He also made Screwball, that recent documentary on A-Rod.

01:42:46.000 It's all about steroids.

01:42:47.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

01:42:48.000 It's genius, because he used little kids to play A-Rod and all the other people.

01:42:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:54.000 In the movie, as a recreation.

01:42:56.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:42:57.000 It's a genius movie.

01:42:59.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:43:00.000 Screwball.

01:43:01.000 Yeah, it's...

01:43:02.000 It's a genius movie.

01:43:03.000 Billy's a brilliant, brilliant guy.

01:43:06.000 He's one of those rare, really intelligent, proud Floridians.

01:43:12.000 I got you.

01:43:13.000 A really intelligent guy who loves Miami.

01:43:15.000 He's a paradox.

01:43:16.000 Rare breed.

01:43:17.000 That's a very rare breed.

01:43:18.000 Very rare breed. 0.99

01:43:19.000 But Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2 are so goddamn good and so crazy. 0.96

01:43:23.000 There was one year in the 80s that the entire graduating class from the police academy was either murdered or went to jail for corruption. 0.97

01:43:32.000 The entire graduating class.

01:43:35.000 They were all on the take.

01:43:37.000 Everyone was selling and doing coke.

01:43:40.000 Man. 0.99

01:43:42.000 It is a fucking amazing documentary. 0.99

01:43:45.000 That's so insane to me. 1.00

01:43:47.000 Of course.

01:43:47.000 I mean, of course.

01:43:48.000 Of course.

01:43:49.000 I mean, there was so much coke and so much money coming in and they were just all on the take.

01:43:53.000 Everybody was on the take.

01:43:54.000 And everybody was committing crimes and helping people commit crimes and hiding millions of dollars in holes in the ground in their backyard.

01:44:02.000 They think to this day, there's a bunch of dead people that died with millions and millions of dollars in their backyard just buried in holes.

01:44:09.000 Oh my lord.

01:44:11.000 What a crazy...

01:44:12.000 Oh my god.

01:44:13.000 Well, there were so many banks in Miami, too.

01:44:17.000 That's the other thing.

01:44:17.000 Why are there so many banks here?

01:44:19.000 Because they're all fucking funneling cocaine money. 0.96

01:44:22.000 At least at the time, there were more banks per capita in Miami than any other city in the country. 0.99

01:44:27.000 Because they were all just funneling cocaine money and laundering it.

01:44:31.000 My gosh.

01:44:32.000 I mean, come on.

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:34.000 I mean, it's that absolute power thing, right?

01:44:37.000 Yep.

01:44:38.000 Yep.

01:44:38.000 Yeah.

01:44:39.000 I mean, again, it comes back to the same thing.

01:44:42.000 First of all, the oversight.

01:44:44.000 You can't really oversee that many people correctly.

01:44:48.000 I mean, you literally have to be like a one-on-one oversight to police officer, follow them everywhere.

01:44:54.000 I mean, that's how deeply embedded the corruption was.

01:44:58.000 And I think, again, just look, I was a security guard for one year when I was 19 years old.

01:45:05.000 I worked at Great Woods in Mansfield, Massachusetts.

01:45:09.000 It's like a concert center.

01:45:11.000 And all these guys from my Taekwondo team got jobs working security there.

01:45:16.000 So that's how I got the job.

01:45:17.000 They were like, hey, you want to work?

01:45:19.000 It's easy.

01:45:20.000 Just come out there and I'm like, what do you have to do? 0.98

01:45:22.000 Most of it is stopping people from bringing in booze and keeping people from doing certain shit. 0.84

01:45:28.000 First day I got there, okay, there's a dude named Alley Cat. 0.93

01:45:30.000 Alley Cat was the head security guy who ran the joint.

01:45:33.000 And they caught this kid, this drunk kid, stealing a golf cart, because everyone would drive around the concert area and golf carts, security guys would.

01:45:42.000 So this drunk kid stole this golf cart, they tackled him, and I watched him beat the fuck out of this dude with a walkie-talkie. 0.90

01:45:49.000 Like, beat this dude in the head with a walkie-talkie. 0.96

01:45:52.000 This is my first day on the job. 0.85

01:45:54.000 So I was like, well...

01:45:56.000 What did I get myself into?

01:45:57.000 Because this seems like we're going to be beating people up.

01:46:00.000 And within a couple of weeks of this job, we had all developed this us versus them mentality.

01:46:08.000 It was very strange.

01:46:09.000 It was us versus them. 0.99

01:46:11.000 It was like we were cops.

01:46:13.000 I saw guys who I knew that were really nice guys being really shitty to patrons, to these people that came to see these concerts.

01:46:24.000 Because, you know, they had just sort of developed this attitude.

01:46:27.000 And I wound up quitting because of a Neil Young concert.

01:46:30.000 There was a Neil Young concert and fires broke out.

01:46:34.000 Because, you know, Neil Young fans are all dirtbags.

01:46:36.000 Sorry, folks.

01:46:37.000 But at the time, in the 1980s in Boston, there was... 0.99

01:46:45.000 There's a lot of fucking druggies and people that were into Neil Young that were into getting fucked up, man. 0.98

01:46:52.000 And so these guys had started fires on the lawn area. 1.00

01:46:58.000 So the way Great Woods is, Great Woods is an amphitheater.

01:47:02.000 So there's an enclosed area, and then there's a back area that's the cheap seats.

01:47:08.000 It's a lawn.

01:47:09.000 And the lawn area, these dudes had just started fires.

01:47:12.000 Because it was probably getting cold out.

01:47:16.000 They shut the concert down.

01:47:18.000 So they had to clear out the concert.

01:47:20.000 It was madness and chaos and then brawl started happening.

01:47:23.000 People started fighting and then I knew that I was probably going to come to a situation like that.

01:47:28.000 I'm a very survival first type of dude.

01:47:30.000 So I brought a hoodie with me. 0.99

01:47:32.000 And I knew that when the shit goes down, I would throw this hoodie over my fucking security outfit. 0.99

01:47:36.000 I'm out of here. 1.00

01:47:38.000 And I just quit on the job.

01:47:39.000 Never got my last paycheck. 0.99

01:47:40.000 I just fucking zipped up and bailed. 0.98

01:47:44.000 I'm like, I'm not getting into any fights. 0.99

01:47:46.000 And no one's stabbing me.

01:47:47.000 No one's hitting me. 0.93

01:47:48.000 I'm getting the fuck out of here. 0.98

01:47:49.000 And I drove home that night, and I'm like, well, that was an experience. 0.97

01:47:52.000 I did a few months as a fake cop.

01:47:55.000 Oh, wow.

01:47:57.000 But you understand how that can happen.

01:47:59.000 I remember very clearly that even I was developing, I was mad at people for not listening to me. 1.00

01:48:05.000 Like I would say, hey man, I told you, park your fucking car on the other side of the line. 0.99

01:48:08.000 I'm like, why am I talking to this guy like this? 1.00

01:48:10.000 It becomes, obviously I was 19 and I was a moron, but there's a thing that happens when you have the power and you have control and there's a bunch of other guys with you. 0.95

01:48:20.000 So I have this team of goons that were with me and then there's these people that don't want to listen. 0.98

01:48:27.000 And I'm like, hey, I fucking told you to pick that up and put it over there. 0.94

01:48:31.000 And then you realize, we're the cops. 0.98

01:48:34.000 We're the bad guys.

01:48:36.000 Or we're the ones in control.

01:48:38.000 Party poopers.

01:48:38.000 It's a thing that happens when you have control.

01:48:41.000 And that's a very, very, very, very, very minor control. 0.99

01:48:45.000 I mean, they could have told me to fuck off and I probably wouldn't have done anything. 0.99

01:48:48.000 I didn't have a gun. 1.00

01:48:49.000 I didn't have a weapon.

01:48:50.000 I never beat anybody up there.

01:48:52.000 There was no real thing.

01:48:53.000 Right.

01:48:55.000 There was an attitude.

01:48:56.000 In this attitude, I remember thinking while this was going on, like, oh, this is what happens.

01:49:01.000 And then imagine this times 100, and you can imagine what a cop is.

01:49:04.000 With weapons.

01:49:05.000 But we had clearly, because there had been, you know, you're dealing with drunks and you're sober. 0.97

01:49:10.000 There's many times where there was assholes, and we had clearly a divided line between them and us. 0.97

01:49:17.000 Right. 0.99

01:49:17.000 Yes. 0.99

01:49:19.000 That's the danger, man.

01:49:20.000 Yeah.

01:49:21.000 That's so hard.

01:49:22.000 And it's hard when it's in a complex situation, like urban environments, you know, where you're like, there's city streets, tall buildings, compact areas, tiny, tiny streets winding around, whatever.

01:49:33.000 You know, it's different than being like a cop in like from my hometown, Great Falls, like, you're just cruising around a cruiser, and you can see pretty clearly in every direction, and it's laid out like a grid.

01:49:41.000 This call comes in, someone stole a chicken!

01:49:44.000 Yeah, and you're just like, oh, well, better go check.

01:49:46.000 That's probably all Hank Swenson, if I'm not mistaken. 0.92

01:49:49.000 Oh, Hank, that chicken-stealing son of a gun.

01:49:51.000 Oh, God, you know, or it's some meth kid that's, like, standing in the middle of traffic or something like that, or something like that.

01:49:57.000 But it's just totally different rules.

01:50:00.000 And not only that, but everything is so, oh, it's so...

01:50:03.000 It's so hard to feel like you can communicate with police officers.

01:50:07.000 There's never a time when I get pulled over, and I know police officers, but I get pulled over, I'm just immediately terrified.

01:50:12.000 And also because I'm a black man, so my immediate thing is, okay, so keep the hands on my wheel.

01:50:19.000 The windows are rolled down all the way.

01:50:21.000 My license is ready.

01:50:23.000 I'm not reaching for anything when they're approaching.

01:50:24.000 I'm thinking about all of that stuff while that's happening.

01:50:27.000 Which sucks, because I'm sure some officers, if they knew that that's the way I felt, they would hate that.

01:50:33.000 Because for them, they're like, I'm just stopping you because this, or whatever.

01:50:38.000 I don't want to be that person.

01:50:40.000 I know that for those officers that feel that way, it's going to be tough, but they really need to be the ones that are the majority, or at least that are made known to be the majority.

01:50:50.000 And then from the cops perspective, anyone you pull over could be the guy that shoots you.

01:50:54.000 Of course.

01:50:55.000 Anyone you pull over could be some guy who's out on a warrant and you don't know if you're ever going to see your family again.

01:51:01.000 Also, I think there's a giant percentage of them that are dealing with just crippling PTSD. Yeah, there's definitely PTSD, and there's also a lack of communication to civilians to be able to also pre-deescalate, you know?

01:51:17.000 Because so many videos that I watch, those dash cam footages of people saying, like, you know, a cop coming up to the window and saying, license and registration, and then their immediate thing is, what are you pulling me over for?

01:51:27.000 And then the cop is like, can I just have your license and registration?

01:51:31.000 And then they keep doing that.

01:51:32.000 Whether they have the legal right, which I believe they actually do have the legal right to ask for why you're being pulled over...

01:51:37.000 Why take the risk?

01:51:40.000 The cop just wants to get the information and do their job and whether they can do that or not.

01:51:44.000 If you have it on camera, you've got it on camera.

01:51:46.000 Their conduct is on there anyways.

01:51:49.000 And then what I tell everybody, it's like, just survive.

01:51:52.000 That's what you need to do.

01:51:55.000 And that goes for anybody, whether you're a white, black woman, whatever. 0.98

01:51:58.000 It's like, in general, the attitude is like, survive this.

01:52:01.000 Make the officer feel safe.

01:52:03.000 And survive it.

01:52:04.000 You're not going to arbitrate it in that moment.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:06.000 Be polite.

01:52:08.000 Be respectful.

01:52:09.000 Get it over with.

01:52:10.000 And you still could run into the wrong cop.

01:52:13.000 Oh, you can still run into the wrong cop.

01:52:14.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:52:15.000 No doubt about it.

01:52:16.000 But it's hard, you know, but you have to hold the line.

01:52:19.000 It's harder when everything's against you, when everyone's expecting you to do the wrong thing.

01:52:24.000 Well, one thing that's a positive trend, and this is not something that people really even want to discuss after someone gets murdered by the cops, there's been a distinct drop in people being killed by cops since 2015,

01:52:40.000 particularly in black men being killed by cops.

01:52:43.000 There is a drop.

01:52:43.000 I think I think it's one of those things where whenever something like this happens, it's a catalyst for change.

01:52:52.000 It's almost like we need, first of all, How ironic is it that Colin Kaepernick takes all that shit for kneeling at the Super Bowl and this fucking guy kneels on this guy's neck and proves the point. 0.99

01:53:08.000 Kills the guy by doing the very thing that Colin Kaepernick was criticized for. 1.00

01:53:14.000 Going down on one knee and doing it to a black guy and killing him. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Yep. 1.00

01:53:19.000 Kind of fucking crazy. 1.00

01:53:21.000 It's really crazy. 0.99

01:53:22.000 It's sort of symbolic about, like, look, this is what they were talking about.

01:53:27.000 This is the thing.

01:53:28.000 It's right here in front of your face.

01:53:30.000 Now you see it.

01:53:31.000 Now you get it.

01:53:32.000 Yep.

01:53:33.000 I know, yeah.

01:53:34.000 Somebody should just sign him. 1.00

01:53:36.000 She should be like, okay, we fucked up. 1.00

01:53:38.000 Come on back. 0.99

01:53:39.000 Oh, I know.

01:53:39.000 Come play.

01:53:40.000 Please come back.

01:53:41.000 Yeah, come play. 0.96

01:53:42.000 I mean, it's tough, man.

01:53:44.000 I mean, you gotta protect your bottom line, you know?

01:53:45.000 It's like when there's a corporation involved.

01:53:47.000 It's tough for people to speak out.

01:53:49.000 They didn't want anybody being the guy who gets attention from protesting.

01:53:54.000 They're like, this is a bad precedent to set.

01:53:56.000 I don't know anything about football, so I don't know what his skill level was, whether or not he would...

01:54:02.000 I mean, those guys get pushed in and out anyway.

01:54:05.000 Like, the number of years that a guy can play, the average number of years that a guy can play professionally in the NFL, I think it's like two.

01:54:12.000 Yeah, two or three years.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, it's crazy because it's so brutal.

01:54:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:16.000 And, you know, fresh, young, hungry guys are coming up out of college every fucking day. 0.99

01:54:22.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:54:23.000 Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's the same thing with Facebook and Zuckerberg and his, like, you know, his continued position of, like, well, we've got to balance things.

01:54:32.000 It's like it all...

01:54:34.000 It just comes off, like, the reaction to Kaepernick or Facebook's reluctance to do anything or even, like...

01:54:39.000 Facebook's reluctance to do anything about what?

01:54:41.000 Well, Zuckerberg is basically saying, we're not here to edit anything.

01:54:47.000 And I'm not saying that I'm for editing.

01:54:49.000 But it's okay if you're in charge of a company.

01:54:55.000 You're the face of the company.

01:54:57.000 So what you do is a reflection of what you believe in, right?

01:55:02.000 So in his particular case, he must actually believe this, but he just believes that to say nothing, to do nothing about the things that are posted, which...

01:55:12.000 You know, you can argue in court all day.

01:55:14.000 Does it incite violence or is it just someone expressing their free speech or, you know, whatever the deal is.

01:55:20.000 But if someone's consistently hitting a certain angle and the response is pretty palpable and fairly measurable, and yet you choose to just allow it to be what it is because, you know, people will figure it out.

01:55:35.000 They'll educate themselves, that type of a thing.

01:55:38.000 You have to take some kind of a position from a humanitarian point of view.

01:55:42.000 And I think that I'm very disappointed in social media in general because they're trying to protect their bottom line.

01:55:49.000 And that's really what it comes off as.

01:55:52.000 It doesn't come off as like, well, I want to protect free speech.

01:55:55.000 It, to me, comes across more like we need to protect our bottom line because if we start editing something, then it's going to be a huge landslide.

01:56:03.000 Everyone's going to be like, oh, well, screw these guys for stifling free speech and all of that stuff.

01:56:09.000 When in actuality, the only reason why you would make decisions like that are really just to protect the bottom line.

01:56:16.000 I don't really understand any other...

01:56:20.000 I mean, even Apple takes a position, you know, like Tim Cook will issue a letter that's then able to be circulated and you can read the letter and like, oh, okay, that's interesting.

01:56:29.000 They don't believe in this and they don't believe in this as a company.

01:56:33.000 Zuckerberg is more like...

01:56:35.000 Well, I believe in whatever the greater bland generalization is for my operating system existing.

01:56:44.000 Well, first of all, if we want to talk the difference between Apple and Facebook, these differences are gigantic.

01:56:49.000 Apple is a technology company.

01:56:52.000 They are not a social media platform.

01:56:55.000 The difference between the responsibility of a technology company and the responsibility of a social media platform is enormous.

01:57:01.000 It's enormous.

01:57:02.000 The consequences are enormous.

01:57:03.000 Apple makes phones and computers and they have an app store and, you know, they take down bad apps and, you know, things that they find that are spying on people and the like, but they don't really have the same dilemmas that someone like Facebook has.

01:57:17.000 When you talk about the importance of free speech, when as soon as you decide, okay, this person can't talk, but this person can, what you're essentially saying is my viewpoint is better than the viewpoint of the person that I disagree with.

01:57:36.000 Now, if you have very specific things, like you can't dox people, you can't threaten people, you can't say anything racist or sexist or homophobic or...

01:57:47.000 Once you establish those parameters, if you decide that this is how you're going to operate, if this is your company, There's a real good argument that you should be allowed to do that because it's your company,

01:58:03.000 but then when the company gets big enough where it's like Facebook or Twitter, then you get a real argument like, wow, the best argument for bad speech, the best antidote, is more speech.

01:58:17.000 It's better speech.

01:58:18.000 So if someone says something that's wrong, there's a real education value in being Being able to correct that and having other people correct it, like just eliminating it in some ways strengthens the resolve of the people that hold that marginalized idea,

01:58:35.000 whether it's racism or sexism or whatever.

01:58:37.000 When you just eliminate it, then they go off and it tends to strengthen their resolve.

01:58:43.000 Sure, sure.

01:58:44.000 And then, particularly when it comes to things like right-wing issues or left-wing issues, if you're running a – there's no right-wing social media site that's as popular as the left-wing ones – but if there was, and they just decided, we're not going to tolerate any trans stuff, If you start talking about how a man who has a sex change is now a woman, 1.00

01:59:04.000 we're going to tell you to go fuck yourself. 1.00

01:59:05.000 That's not real. 1.00

01:59:06.000 We're not going to tolerate abortion. 1.00

01:59:08.000 You want to talk about abortion, right? 0.88

01:59:09.000 You're killing babies. 1.00

01:59:10.000 Get the fuck off our platform. 1.00

01:59:11.000 That's the kind of shit that right-wing zealots would do to people that hold left-wing ideology. 1.00

01:59:18.000 But Conversely, you do see that from people who are left-wing zealots, who are angry about people who have right-wing ideas, and maybe even not so right-wing. 0.98

01:59:31.000 I'm sorry if you've heard this before, I used this.

01:59:34.000 Example, if you're listening, Megan Murphy, who is what you would call a trans-exclusionary radical feminist. 0.99

01:59:42.000 They call her a TERF. And what that means is she's a person that's a feminist that doesn't believe that you can just change your sex and then you can have these arguments and deal with women's issues. 1.00

01:59:52.000 Like, a trans person she believes is different than a woman and a feminist.

01:59:58.000 And there was some sort of a debate she was having online with someone on Twitter, and she said, but a man is never a woman.

02:00:06.000 And so they told her she has to take that down.

02:00:09.000 On what?

02:00:11.000 On Twitter.

02:00:11.000 Okay.

02:00:12.000 So she takes it down, and then she makes a screenshot of it and posts that.

02:00:16.000 And so they ban her for life. 0.99

02:00:19.000 For life.

02:00:19.000 For saying a man is never a woman.

02:00:22.000 Look, it's one thing if you're shitting on someone and you're mad at someone, you're saying a man is never a woman. 0.95

02:00:27.000 But if you want to just talk biology, a man is never a woman. 0.99

02:00:31.000 So if you're a person who is a left-wing progressive zealot and you don't want anybody that's not adhering or complying to the ideology of progressive people, You ban someone like that.

02:00:47.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:00:48.000 This is the problem with censorship.

02:00:50.000 Where do you draw the line?

02:00:52.000 My opinion in that case is you let that woman say that, and you let people correct her, and you let people correct the people that correct her, and you get a lively debate where people get to discuss whether or not they are different things.

02:01:06.000 And I think there's a real valid intellectual argument in that.

02:01:10.000 There's a valid social argument in that.

02:01:12.000 See, but this is the problem with censorship.

02:01:14.000 Well, you know, and my thing is, like, I'm not exactly, I'm not saying, I'm not saying to censor.

02:01:20.000 I'm just saying weighing in on the conversation.

02:01:23.000 So how do you do that, though?

02:01:24.000 Well, you take responsibility for it.

02:01:25.000 But what specifically are we talking about? 0.91

02:01:28.000 Well, I'm just saying like, uh, for instance, if I look at my comments, uh, so they say I post something on Twitter and there's all these comments or whatever, like, like a lot of my friends who have Twitter accounts, they may, uh, they may read the comment and be like, oh, that guy's an asshole or whatever and never say anything.

02:01:44.000 And there's just like all of these, you know, comments that are some of those just troll people just trying to get reactions and stuff like that. 0.59

02:01:49.000 All that, all that. 0.99

02:01:51.000 I like to personally engage all of that shit and I like to come at them with a conversation. 0.97

02:01:57.000 And the thing that ends up happening with something like Facebook is because it's – I'm just a – I guess I'm biased because I don't think very much of Zuckerberg at all. 1.00

02:02:08.000 And he's just kind of a little bit of a thief or a lot of bit of a thief. 0.93

02:02:13.000 He's a thief and he's not an innovator in any way. 0.98

02:02:16.000 He's running a company. 0.99

02:02:18.000 When you say a thief – Well, because he stole the ideas.

02:02:22.000 I have some people that were going to school with him around that time period, and he just basically stole the initial code for Facebook, which was generated by a few different people, and just kind of made off with it.

02:02:36.000 It's like how many companies are formed.

02:02:40.000 It's like someone had an idea.

02:02:41.000 There's no way for them to protect the idea because someone capitalized on the idea first.

02:02:45.000 How come those people can't sue him?

02:02:47.000 I don't know.

02:02:48.000 I don't know.

02:02:48.000 I think it's because it's arbitrary.

02:02:50.000 I think it's like where that came from, where the original code came from and so forth is arbitrary.

02:02:54.000 So they must be furious.

02:02:57.000 I know that they're furious, you know, and I know that they're furious and I know some other people from startups that also addressed it.

02:03:04.000 No, of course he's not going to address it.

02:03:05.000 I mean, maybe he did.

02:03:07.000 I don't know.

02:03:07.000 I'm not an expert on it.

02:03:08.000 All I know is that in the beginning there was that, and then in parallel, as it was growing and as they were making decisions, I would hear from people that are in his orbit that would kind of describe his decision-making processes and so forth.

02:03:21.000 And I don't get a sense that he understands...

02:03:29.000 His social responsibility or his responsibility to the identity of the company seems very far removed.

02:03:35.000 And his actions kind of dictate that.

02:03:37.000 It's like a little bit laissez faire in a sense that...

02:03:42.000 Going back to my comments, I'm commenting on those things because I'm letting people comment, but I'm engaging in a conversation with them in hopes that we can talk about stuff.

02:03:52.000 Are you open to anybody being able to comment back to you and say whatever they want?

02:03:57.000 Yes, of course.

02:03:59.000 What is the explanation that YouTube did for this?

02:04:02.000 But this is the problem with banning comments or deleting comments.

02:04:07.000 That stuff can get co-opted.

02:04:09.000 And there was a situation recently where YouTube was caught deleting comments that were critical of the Chinese Communist Party.

02:04:17.000 And what they said was that it was a software glitch.

02:04:21.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:04:22.000 No, that's them protecting their bottom line.

02:04:24.000 A hundred percent, right?

02:04:25.000 That's what I would imagine.

02:04:27.000 Totally.

02:04:27.000 But I saw that, and I said, okay, but that's what I'm talking about.

02:04:30.000 Like, that kind of shit? 0.97

02:04:31.000 Like, once someone comes in and says, hey, we would really like it if you removed those things that talk about some of the mean stuff that we do over here, and we're willing to do business with you, but we want you to put filters up. 0.99

02:04:45.000 Yes.

02:04:46.000 So they said it was a software glitch.

02:04:47.000 I don't know how that software glitches magically works out in favor of the Chinese Communist Party.

02:04:52.000 Yeah.

02:04:53.000 I mean, that's that's my problem.

02:04:54.000 I mean, I don't have I'm not saying get rid of stuff.

02:04:57.000 I'm just saying be more accountable as the face of a company.

02:05:01.000 So what would you like him to do differently?

02:05:02.000 Well, I know you don't like him, but so is it just Facebook or do you have this problem with YouTube?

02:05:08.000 Do you have this problem with Twitter?

02:05:10.000 I mean, here's my problem.

02:05:12.000 Whenever power is consolidated, there are always going to be problems because there's going to be all these different ways that people wish that it were and it's not working for them in this way and so forth.

02:05:25.000 My thing is the future is distributed.

02:05:28.000 It's a distributed network, distributed social networks.

02:05:31.000 I have my own app, WhatsApp, that I created.

02:05:34.000 Oh, what's that?

02:05:35.000 It's just an app.

02:05:36.000 It's, yeah, WhatsApp.

02:05:38.000 It's only on iOS, but you can look for it.

02:05:40.000 What do you do?

02:05:40.000 It just has exclusive content.

02:05:43.000 I created a bunch of interviews with Jack White and Leslie Feist and Fred Armisen are on there in this stupid series I call Droneversations that shot entirely on drones.

02:05:52.000 And you can't really hear the conversation because the drones are too loud.

02:05:55.000 Really?

02:05:55.000 Yeah.

02:05:56.000 It's really stupid. 1.00

02:05:57.000 But yeah, check it out. 1.00

02:05:58.000 WhatsApp.

02:06:00.000 It's out there.

02:06:00.000 But it's got live streaming.

02:06:02.000 I have a store that I sell all my old electronics on.

02:06:05.000 But I have other artists that are interested in making an app.

02:06:09.000 But apps are notoriously...

02:06:11.000 The cost prohibitive.

02:06:13.000 They're so expensive.

02:06:14.000 Over $100,000 to create an app, right?

02:06:16.000 So I managed to get my app made for a really, really cheap price.

02:06:19.000 A brilliant guy named Oliver Thomas Klein designed single-handedly the whole app.

02:06:26.000 It was amazing.

02:06:27.000 And his aesthetic is awesome.

02:06:28.000 But my thing was, if I can create a template and keep getting the price down to make an app and they're just using the template that I created for other artists and other bands, then we can have a distributed network of apps that can intercommunicate with one another without the need of Facebook,

02:06:44.000 Instagram, any of these social media platforms. 0.97

02:06:48.000 And that way, when a fan comes to visit my site, they know it's my shit. 0.99

02:06:52.000 It's not being tracked. 0.99

02:06:54.000 No one's getting tracked.

02:06:55.000 For my app, there's no social component to it.

02:07:00.000 People can't comment on anything.

02:07:01.000 There's just content to observe, events to behold, and electronics and headphones to be bought.

02:07:08.000 And that's it.

02:07:09.000 So when you go there, it feels like a safe space.

02:07:11.000 And so if there's an interconnected network...

02:07:14.000 Of distributed apps which essentially are just kind of interactive websites I guess that's what an app is ultimately.

02:07:23.000 Now you've got something that's distributed.

02:07:24.000 Fans can kind of trust that it's a safe space.

02:07:26.000 It's not owned by Facebook.

02:07:28.000 It's not owned by any of these corporations.

02:07:31.000 So for me, it's about power consolidation.

02:07:33.000 It's never going to be what you want it to be.

02:07:37.000 It'll be convenient and it'll be ever-present.

02:07:40.000 Like Google, for whatever reason, Google, I have a better opinion of than Facebook.

02:07:45.000 And mainly, I will say... 1.00

02:07:48.000 Also, the other big factor with Facebook to me is the aesthetics are a piece of shit. 1.00

02:07:52.000 It's a confusing, terribly designed piece of shit. 1.00

02:07:55.000 It also encourages verbose dialogue. 0.99

02:07:59.000 You could write as long as you want. 0.99

02:08:01.000 People have these fucking long, rambling... 0.99

02:08:04.000 Oh, edit, people! 0.99

02:08:05.000 Edit!

02:08:06.000 I know, I know.

02:08:07.000 I haven't even seen a Facebook...

02:08:09.000 I haven't done Facebook in like nine years, and eight years, nine years...

02:08:14.000 And whenever I even get a glimpse of it, my anxiety shoots through the roof because the design is so terrible.

02:08:20.000 It is such a shittily designed website.

02:08:23.000 It's filled with ads. 0.79

02:08:24.000 It's terrible.

02:08:25.000 And I'll say the only good thing about Facebook is Oculus. 1.00

02:08:29.000 And they didn't come up with that shit. 1.00

02:08:31.000 They just bought it. 1.00

02:08:32.000 Instagram was cool.

02:08:34.000 It's kind of still holding it down a little bit.

02:08:36.000 They own it though, right?

02:08:37.000 But they didn't create it.

02:08:38.000 What have they done to it?

02:08:40.000 They haven't done anything different.

02:08:42.000 They made ads.

02:08:44.000 Now there's ads everywhere.

02:08:46.000 Oh, that's true.

02:08:46.000 Now they're tracking everything.

02:08:48.000 The timeline is not chronological.

02:08:51.000 It's algorithmical.

02:08:52.000 That's weird.

02:08:53.000 That's really weird.

02:08:54.000 So they're basically tweaking.

02:08:55.000 It used to be chronological. 0.90

02:08:56.000 It used to be chronological, which it should always be chronological, but they fucked with it.

02:09:00.000 Isn't that an option, though, where you could view it chronologically? 0.51

02:09:03.000 I don't think so.

02:09:04.000 No, I can't find a way to change it.

02:09:06.000 Everyone argues about it.

02:09:08.000 It's just terrible design, but that's all we got, right?

02:09:11.000 We got Twitter, we got Instagram, and then we've got some TikTok, which is owned by a Chinese company. 1.00

02:09:18.000 They can fuck off. 1.00

02:09:18.000 The government won't let you put that on your phone. 1.00

02:09:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:22.000 You're in the military.

02:09:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:23.000 Yeah, because it's owned by a Chinese company, which I have no problem with Chinese people, but the Chinese government?

02:09:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:30.000 Super creepy.

02:09:31.000 Yeah, well, there's this guy that I follow.

02:09:34.000 Let me find his thing on YouTube.

02:09:37.000 He's an internet privacy guy.

02:09:39.000 Yeah.

02:09:40.000 And I've gotten really deep into this lately.

02:09:43.000 Let me find out.

02:09:43.000 I've got a bunch of subscriptions here.

02:09:45.000 I have to figure out what my fucking subscriptions are. 0.99

02:09:48.000 Yeah, too many. 1.00

02:09:49.000 I have way too many.

02:09:50.000 I have too many.

02:09:51.000 This internet privacy guy, he sells these things on his website that are de-Google phones.

02:10:02.000 Really?

02:10:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

02:10:04.000 Goddamn, where do you find your subscriptions on your app? 0.98

02:10:09.000 Oh, let's see. 1.00

02:10:11.000 Where the fuck is it? 0.99

02:10:13.000 Oh, there it is. 0.99

02:10:14.000 Your channel, your membership, your data settings.

02:10:20.000 Subscriptions. 1.00

02:10:21.000 Where's my fucking subscriptions, piece of shit? 1.00

02:10:23.000 Oh, here we go. 1.00

02:10:24.000 If you put in subscriptions as a general search, it's under your ID. Oh, okay.

02:10:29.000 Yeah.

02:10:30.000 Hold on a second.

02:10:31.000 Subscriptions.

02:10:35.000 Guys, here's all my subscriptions and my passcodes.

02:10:41.000 So, here we go. 0.99

02:10:44.000 Where is this fucking... 0.99

02:10:45.000 No, that's... 1.00

02:10:46.000 I put it in there.

02:10:47.000 It didn't show me.

02:10:48.000 Where are you finding it?

02:10:49.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:50.000 If you do, it's under Apple ID. Oh, under Apple ID? Yeah.

02:10:57.000 You know, someday...

02:10:58.000 Where is that?

02:10:59.000 It says settings.

02:11:00.000 Yeah.

02:11:01.000 So, right here at the very top with your, like, little image.

02:11:04.000 Just click on that.

02:11:05.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:07.000 Hmm.

02:11:08.000 And then subscriptions are right the fourth after payment and shipping.

02:11:12.000 Okay.

02:11:14.000 Anyway, this guy has, he's a huge proponent of online privacy.

02:11:21.000 And so he sells all of these.

02:11:24.000 Here it is.

02:11:24.000 Apple ID, subscription.

02:11:28.000 He sells all of, well this is, no.

02:11:32.000 That's not what I'm looking for.

02:11:33.000 I'm looking for the YouTube stuff that I subscribe to.

02:11:36.000 Oh! 0.60

02:11:36.000 Oh, and the YouTube app then. 0.60

02:11:37.000 Sorry, I didn't know where you're at.

02:11:39.000 YouTube, as the Brazilians would say.

02:11:43.000 YouTube.

02:11:43.000 Where do you find it?

02:11:45.000 Just at the bottom now, they've changed it.

02:11:46.000 So hit library.

02:11:48.000 Okay.

02:11:50.000 And then there you can hit, or if you just hit the subscriptions button, actually, you should be able to.

02:11:54.000 But that's going to be categorical by, like, most recent uploads.

02:11:58.000 But I see on library, I don't see...

02:12:00.000 I see my videos, downloads, where's the bottom?

02:12:05.000 The bottom, right in the middle.

02:12:07.000 Unless your app hasn't updated or something like that.

02:12:09.000 They keep moving it.

02:12:10.000 Right.

02:12:11.000 But that's just showing me videos.

02:12:13.000 It's not showing me channels.

02:12:14.000 At the top, then you can search for the channels that you're subscribed through.

02:12:19.000 It's a feed.

02:12:20.000 Yeah, see right here?

02:12:21.000 There should be just right at the bottom, it just says subscriptions.

02:12:24.000 Yeah, I got that.

02:12:25.000 Oh, you got that.

02:12:25.000 Yeah, but it's not showing me the channels.

02:12:28.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:29.000 Okay, here we go.

02:12:30.000 There you go.

02:12:31.000 Okay, I found it. 0.99

02:12:32.000 Boy, this is fucking clunky. 0.99

02:12:33.000 Man, it's not your fault. 1.00

02:12:35.000 Whenever that shit happens, it's bad design. 1.00

02:12:38.000 Oh, I subscribe to too many. 0.99

02:12:40.000 This could be a long, boring, boring thing.

02:12:45.000 But just see if you can find Internet Privacy Guide.

02:12:49.000 I don't know if that's...

02:12:50.000 No, that's one of them.

02:12:51.000 That's a phone.

02:12:52.000 But the Fairphone is...

02:12:54.000 I think that's an...

02:12:54.000 Fairphone?

02:12:55.000 Yeah, that's one of those Linux phones.

02:12:59.000 Yeah, Fairphone 3 Review.

02:13:02.000 Yeah.

02:13:03.000 Yeah, Fairphone is its own channel.

02:13:06.000 Yeah, but that's not it.

02:13:07.000 Rob Braxman, that's it.

02:13:09.000 Rob Braxman Tech.

02:13:11.000 It's this gentleman who's very much into privacy. 0.99

02:13:16.000 He's so into privacy, I want to look at his fucking history. 0.99

02:13:19.000 I'm like, what are you hiding from? 0.98

02:13:21.000 But he's got a website, and on his website, he actually sells de-googled Android phones.

02:13:30.000 Wow.

02:13:31.000 De-Googled Android phones.

02:13:33.000 So he takes these 2019, and I think that's the most recent you can buy, like a Motorola Android phone, and they take all the Google out of it.

02:13:44.000 And so Google's no longer tracking you.

02:13:47.000 You don't have to log in with Google.

02:13:49.000 Yeah.

02:13:50.000 His website's whatthezuck.net.

02:13:52.000 Oh, nice.

02:13:53.000 Stick it to the Zuck.

02:13:55.000 I think that's one of his websites.

02:13:58.000 But that's not his main website.

02:14:00.000 I thought it was his.

02:14:01.000 No, no.

02:14:02.000 That is his website, but that's not his main website.

02:14:04.000 He's got a website, though.

02:14:06.000 He's got, like, if you have a support me on Patreon, contact me, VPN... I figured that was his only website there.

02:14:17.000 That's it?

02:14:17.000 No.

02:14:18.000 He's got a website where he sells stuff.

02:14:21.000 Oh, okay.

02:14:24.000 And Braxman dot something or another.

02:14:26.000 But he sells...

02:14:28.000 He's got like a...

02:14:29.000 F-Droid. 1.00

02:14:30.000 He's got a VPN Wi-Fi hub.

02:14:33.000 Yeah.

02:14:34.000 So that even when people use your Wi-Fi, it all goes through a VPN. Oh, I love that.

02:14:39.000 Yeah.

02:14:40.000 I love that.

02:14:40.000 Find his website, though.

02:14:42.000 See, that's...

02:14:43.000 Just Google Rob Braxman website.

02:14:47.000 That's totally...

02:14:48.000 Yeah, the future.

02:14:48.000 It's like the future is distributed.

02:14:51.000 Rob Braxman Tech.

02:14:52.000 It's encrypted?

02:14:53.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:14:53.000 Brax.me.

02:14:54.000 That's him.

02:14:55.000 Yeah, see?

02:14:56.000 So he sells a bunch...

02:14:57.000 Look, it shows your IP address at the top.

02:14:59.000 How creepy is that? 0.99

02:15:00.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:15:01.000 He's letting you know. 1.00

02:15:01.000 Oh, I want to see that. 1.00

02:15:02.000 Okay, you fucks. 1.00

02:15:03.000 What's the website again? 1.00

02:15:05.000 Brax.me.

02:15:06.000 Brax.me.

02:15:08.000 Yeah, that's privacy-focused social media.

02:15:15.000 So he's got a bunch of different stuff that he sells, but he also has a store.

02:15:20.000 And if you go to the store...

02:15:33.000 He's just talking about all the different ways in these videos that he makes on YouTube all the different ways that you're being tracked and Through your fingerprints, through your Face ID, through every Google search, all your location data.

02:15:44.000 And, you know, there's this recent thing that came up where Google is being sued in Arizona because they turn location services on even when you have it off.

02:15:55.000 Oh, whoa.

02:15:56.000 So even when you turn location services off with Google, it's still searching your location.

02:16:01.000 It's still reporting that data back to Google.

02:16:04.000 So there's a lawsuit right now about that.

02:16:07.000 Yeah, that's the problem, man.

02:16:09.000 I mean, it's like, you know, I have this a little bit of that dumb attitude, but it is an attitude where I'm like, well, I'm going to do everything I can to protect myself.

02:16:17.000 You know, I run VPN on my phone.

02:16:19.000 I've got a Winston VPN, whatever thing, my browser, you know, to help protect and stuff.

02:16:24.000 I'll do as much as I can without getting overly geeky and then, like, paranoid about everything.

02:16:29.000 Right.

02:16:29.000 Because ultimately, if they want to track where I'm at, like...

02:16:32.000 They're just going to track where I'm at and whatever.

02:16:35.000 I don't know what it is.

02:16:36.000 But if I can do things like, oh, I'll create my own app.

02:16:40.000 Now I'll take it into my own hands.

02:16:42.000 And I can do as much as I work.

02:16:44.000 If I know hackers and programmers and coders, we can actually just start creating our own version of the internet.

02:16:49.000 Right.

02:16:49.000 But if you want to use Instagram or you want to use Facebook, you're getting tracked.

02:16:54.000 Oh no, for sure.

02:16:55.000 No, you're going to use those things, but you already know.

02:16:59.000 But if you're working with programmers and hackers, they know how you're being tracked.

02:17:03.000 So the way that you use your... 0.59

02:17:05.000 For instance, every ad that I get, I always market as junk. 0.83

02:17:08.000 What is this, Jamie? 0.69

02:17:09.000 That's what you're talking about.

02:17:11.000 So it's a product that's been around since, I think, since 2011 is when it was found, called Geofedia.

02:17:15.000 Yeah.

02:17:16.000 Where they tap into all social media and mix it with Google data.

02:17:21.000 Wow.

02:17:22.000 And then sell it to whoever would like to buy it to use it for it.

02:17:26.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:17:27.000 It's capitalism gone crazy.

02:17:30.000 Well, I mean, I guess there's so much value in knowing.

02:17:35.000 Once Facebook started getting insanely rich just off of data, there's so much value in knowing what you're up to, knowing where you're going, knowing what you're buying, knowing what you're seeing.

02:17:44.000 Of course.

02:17:45.000 How many times have you been talking about something and then you find the ads on your phone?

02:17:49.000 Every time.

02:17:50.000 Guaranteed.

02:17:51.000 Every time.

02:17:51.000 That's so creepy.

02:17:52.000 I'm never going to stop being creeped out by that.

02:17:54.000 Oh, it's every time.

02:17:55.000 I remember talking to my mom.

02:17:58.000 It was just recently in Montana.

02:17:59.000 I was talking to my mom and I mentioned a thing maybe two or three times.

02:18:03.000 And we have a Google whatever home thing in the house.

02:18:08.000 And I went downstairs and went to Amazon.

02:18:12.000 And Amazon suggested the product.

02:18:15.000 They're in bed with Google.

02:18:16.000 Yeah, of course.

02:18:17.000 And so my thing is, I'll use whatever.

02:18:21.000 I'm not going to be so paranoid that it's going to bum me out and ruin my life.

02:18:25.000 But I am going to work with people that are really smart and engineers and so forth.

02:18:29.000 And I'm just going to create my own version of the things that I use all the time with my platform.

02:18:35.000 Essentially, you could do the same thing if you create your own app, right?

02:18:39.000 Not go the Chris D'Elia route, which, you know, God bless him.

02:18:44.000 All the subscription, all the junky stuff.

02:18:46.000 What is he doing on his app?

02:18:48.000 It's a subscription-based app.

02:18:51.000 And I was thinking about doing something like, oh, charging for the app.

02:18:54.000 I don't even think he uses that anymore.

02:18:55.000 I don't think he does, but it still exists.

02:18:56.000 I think I found that and I texted him. 0.98

02:18:58.000 I go, hey, what the fuck is this? 0.92

02:18:59.000 Like a couple of years ago. 0.98

02:19:00.000 What did he say?

02:19:01.000 I don't even do that anymore.

02:19:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:02.000 It's just floating around out there.

02:19:03.000 It is floating out, but it's still making money.

02:19:05.000 Is it?

02:19:06.000 Oh, yeah, because you can still subscribe.

02:19:08.000 But he doesn't have anything on it anymore?

02:19:10.000 I mean, I just, it was like maybe, I don't know, half a year ago I checked it, it was still active.

02:19:15.000 And then I deleted it.

02:19:16.000 But I just think, like, when you're subscribed, my thing is, the future is distributed also, I believe, in a direct economy.

02:19:23.000 Yeah.

02:19:43.000 If there's something that you want to sell, then sell it directly.

02:19:46.000 Subscription is a weird thing. 0.91

02:19:48.000 Subscription to me is cool if Instagram and Facebook went to a subscription model so that I didn't have to see any of the fucking ads and that I was guaranteed that my tracking was being limited. 0.79

02:19:58.000 Like YouTube has YouTube Red. 0.93

02:19:59.000 Right, right, right.

02:20:00.000 So I have YouTube Premium, right?

02:20:02.000 I never see an ad.

02:20:03.000 I can't stand ads. 0.94

02:20:04.000 If I see an ad, I'm gonna murder somebody. 0.97

02:20:07.000 I agree with you. 0.62

02:20:08.000 That would be a really smart move for them because I think they'd probably generate additional revenue that way.

02:20:12.000 And goodwill.

02:20:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:20:14.000 Very good point.

02:20:16.000 Yeah, Instagram. 1.00

02:20:17.000 Don't you pay attention, you fucks. 1.00

02:20:18.000 Yeah, fuckfaces. 1.00

02:20:21.000 Yeah, because... 0.99

02:20:23.000 And very rarely, very rarely do they suggest something to me that I'm interested in.

02:20:27.000 No, or they suggest stuff that you already have.

02:20:30.000 Sometimes, yeah.

02:20:30.000 So many times I'm like, oh, there's that thing I already bought.

02:20:33.000 Every now and then, though.

02:20:34.000 Every now and then, there's one of them little sponsored apps.

02:20:36.000 I know.

02:20:36.000 I'm like, huh.

02:20:37.000 I know.

02:20:38.000 Those are kind of a good product.

02:20:39.000 Well, you know what I'll do is I go to Brave, a private browser.

02:20:42.000 So I'll go to Brave.

02:20:43.000 Ah, yeah.

02:20:44.000 I use Brave.

02:20:45.000 And I'll use Brave, and then I'll look up the product there.

02:20:47.000 I use DuckDuckGo, too.

02:20:49.000 Oh, I use DuckDuckGo. 1.00

02:20:50.000 DuckDuckGo is the shit. 1.00

02:20:51.000 The search engine sucks on it. 1.00

02:20:52.000 Eh, it's not as good. 0.98

02:20:54.000 But it, you know, whatever.

02:20:55.000 But they're not looking in your underwear.

02:20:57.000 That's absolutely 100% true.

02:20:59.000 Checking under your fingernails.

02:21:01.000 It's tough, man.

02:21:02.000 It's tough being a modern human.

02:21:04.000 It is, but it's almost inevitable.

02:21:06.000 I mean, I feel like we have to accept this new reality.

02:21:08.000 Yes.

02:21:09.000 That, you know, privacy is one day going to be a thing of the past.

02:21:12.000 And not just in terms of, like, what you browse, but I think what you think.

02:21:16.000 You know, one of the things that Elon said to me in the last conversation I had that really creeped me out is, like, you're going to be able to talk without words.

02:21:22.000 Because he's talking about Neuralink.

02:21:24.000 Oh, yeah, the Neuralink.

02:21:25.000 You're going to be able to talk without words.

02:21:28.000 Have conversations without words. 1.00

02:21:30.000 Oh, God damn it. 0.99

02:21:32.000 What are you going to do? 1.00

02:21:33.000 That leads to hive mind. 1.00

02:21:34.000 We're going to have hive mind. 1.00

02:21:36.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:21:38.000 My condensation or the condensing of technology in general, it's we are fascinated with creating the things that we already do.

02:21:48.000 That we already do inherently.

02:21:49.000 Right.

02:21:50.000 So that idea of like being able to talk without words, it's like that happens all the time anyway.

02:21:54.000 So you ever go on a dance floor and watch people like dancing and like someone's like communicating and they're just body language.

02:21:59.000 They know what's going on or you're about to call your friend and suddenly your friend calls. 0.95

02:22:03.000 That's why we communicating without words like on the dance floor is a perfect example of like one of them Porsches where the ass end goes out. 0.97

02:22:10.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:22:11.000 They're out of control of it.

02:22:13.000 There's some communication in there, too.

02:22:15.000 Like, this guy doesn't know how to control his body.

02:22:17.000 Yes, exactly.

02:22:17.000 Yeah.

02:22:18.000 It's like, oh, well, I'm going to stay away from that person.

02:22:23.000 Stay away.

02:22:24.000 Stay away.

02:22:24.000 This person is losing control.

02:22:26.000 Fucking No, he can't dance. 0.99

02:22:29.000 But then there might be a compassionate choreographer who'd be like, here, I'll teach you how to dance. 0.99

02:22:35.000 I will make an example of you.

02:22:38.000 Those women aren't real. 1.00

02:22:40.000 You don't think that there's benevolent choreographers that'll help you? 0.99

02:22:43.000 They steal your liver.

02:22:45.000 Those girls... 1.00

02:22:46.000 They drug you and steal your liver. 0.98

02:22:48.000 You wake up in a tub filled with ice.

02:22:50.000 I love that if that actually was a stereotype for choreographers.

02:22:54.000 I don't trust choreographers.

02:22:56.000 You know, one minute they're teaching you a bunch of routines and then the next you're in a bathtub with no liver.

02:23:02.000 Yeah, you're making out with some eastern block chick and all of a sudden you fall asleep and you wake up and there's a deep pain on the right side of your body. 1.00

02:23:09.000 Like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:23:11.000 A big chunk of your liver is missing. 1.00

02:23:14.000 No.

02:23:14.000 That's not the future we aren't living.

02:23:17.000 Yikes.

02:23:17.000 I'm shooting for the high ground, man.

02:23:20.000 We're going to do it.

02:23:21.000 We're going to do it.

02:23:22.000 I don't know.

02:23:23.000 I have great faith for the human race.

02:23:25.000 I do, too.

02:23:25.000 I mean, I think this is a terrible blip in our civilization, and I think we've had terrible blips in the past, and we've gotten over them.

02:23:34.000 The problem right now is our foundation is really being tested, because we've had multiple blips in a row.

02:23:39.000 Yes.

02:23:39.000 Big, heavy ones.

02:23:40.000 Yep.

02:23:41.000 And, you know...

02:23:42.000 Big stress test, man.

02:23:43.000 Big ones.

02:23:44.000 Big ones.

02:23:44.000 And unless we have a period of peace where we can digest these and recover, we're deteriorating.

02:23:51.000 We just keep taking these hits.

02:23:52.000 Like an old boxer just keeps getting knocked out.

02:23:55.000 Like, whoa.

02:23:56.000 Yep.

02:23:57.000 Yep, and brain damage and tissue damage. 1.00

02:23:59.000 I mean, that's the thing.

02:24:02.000 What I'm hoping for is another age of enlightenment.

02:24:06.000 Spain had one.

02:24:09.000 Most large cultural epicenters have had these moments where things kind of came into balance after some great turmoil and we were able to just put on cruise control for a little while and explore more in-depth, nuanced things about who we are.

02:24:25.000 But those things existed before social media.

02:24:27.000 That's true.

02:24:28.000 I think the only way we're going to be able to pull that off today is with mushrooms.

02:24:32.000 We're gonna need something that lets people know, like, oh, this reality that you're in is a very bland, two-dimensional projection.

02:24:44.000 Of the reality that you can experience with our little fungus friends.

02:24:49.000 Just a little bit of an escape from this tired realm into a land of infinite possibility of love and understanding and connectedness and a dissolving of the ego The likes of which you've never experienced before.

02:25:05.000 If we could all do that, if that could be legal, look, marijuana has radically changed the culture of California, radically changed the culture of Denver, radically changed the culture of everywhere where it's been legalized.

02:25:17.000 That's true.

02:25:17.000 And it's changed the way people communicate with each other.

02:25:20.000 It's changed their ideas about law enforcement because we're no longer worried about jackbooted thugs knocking down our door because we like to smoke a plant that makes us happy. 0.52

02:25:29.000 That's not a concern anymore.

02:25:31.000 That's a fundamental shift in just how we are as a human race.

02:25:36.000 And that's us.

02:25:37.000 It's a mild psychedelic.

02:25:39.000 Psychedelics, they come in very, you know, if marijuana is a gateway to anything, it's a gateway to the real psychedelics.

02:25:47.000 It's a gateway to mushrooms.

02:25:48.000 It's a gateway to DMT. It's a gateway to mescaline.

02:25:52.000 Ayahuasca. 0.99

02:25:53.000 Yeah, all those really fucking profound, world-dissolving ones. 0.99

02:25:57.000 It's a gateway to those things. 0.96

02:25:59.000 And I really think that we need something like that at this time.

02:26:02.000 We need...

02:26:03.000 We need rituals, some sort of psychedelic rituals, and best processed by real legitimate professionals and real established centers where people actually know what they're doing.

02:26:16.000 We could help people get past this bump in our evolutionary travels.

02:26:21.000 Yeah, and all the trauma.

02:26:23.000 You've got to deal with the trauma.

02:26:24.000 We try to run away from it most of the time.

02:26:28.000 We try to feel good about stuff.

02:26:29.000 And you just need to take it on, understand it, and then transform it.

02:26:35.000 Transform it into a part of yourself that makes you stronger.

02:26:39.000 And psychedelics, really, they're just like a reminder.

02:26:42.000 It's a reminder of how we are.

02:26:43.000 Because when children are born and their eyes are flinting everywhere and they're trying to absorb as much as they can about the world, they don't care about color.

02:26:51.000 They don't care about... 0.97

02:26:51.000 Any of the shit that we have problems with, all that stuff is learned. 0.97

02:26:55.000 That initial state is essentially what happens with psychedelics. 0.96

02:26:59.000 We go back to the interconnectedness of consciousness, however you want to define that, but the experience of it is very interconnected.

02:27:08.000 And it's a reminder that, oh yeah, we're natural organisms.

02:27:12.000 We're part of this planet.

02:27:13.000 This planet is a part of a solar system.

02:27:15.000 The solar system is a part of blah, blah, blah.

02:27:16.000 And you also realize that your life experiences and your memories and even your personality is basically like a tiny pop-up tent that you've set up in the wilderness of real consciousness.

02:27:28.000 Yeah, it's true.

02:27:29.000 You're like, I've got my little stove here.

02:27:32.000 I'm going to cook my tea, and I've got it all under control. 0.99

02:27:35.000 And then you unzip that tent, and you go out into the fucking wilderness of psychedelic consciousness. 0.98

02:27:41.000 You realize, oh my god, I've been living in a tent. 0.99

02:27:43.000 I've been living in this little baby pup tent.

02:27:45.000 This has been my reality.

02:27:46.000 And the more insecure people are, the more they want to define what is allowed and not allowed inside that tent.

02:27:54.000 Exactly.

02:27:55.000 A hundred percent.

02:27:56.000 And it's like, you know, I mean, and guaranteed I've had arguments with people.

02:27:59.000 I mean, I remember there was like a skinhead on a bus once and we had a conversation together and he was still an active skinhead and we were sitting across from each other.

02:28:08.000 But we kind of like, he commented on something I was wearing or something like that.

02:28:12.000 And we started talking for a second.

02:28:14.000 We were talking about mutual things and then he got, he got up to get off the bus and he just kind of looked at me and just kind of went...

02:28:21.000 And he just kind of shrugged and walked off.

02:28:23.000 And I was like, that's interesting.

02:28:25.000 Basically, a neo-Nazi guy was on a bus.

02:28:29.000 And for whatever reason, we connected on this one thing.

02:28:33.000 And it reminded me of, you know, the cartoon with the sheepdog and the...

02:28:37.000 Yeah, morning Ralph.

02:28:40.000 That's how sometimes I like to view stuff.

02:28:43.000 I'm like, okay, so you're going to play the role of the person who's the fascist.

02:28:47.000 I'm going to play the role of the person who's afraid and hiding in the shadows.

02:28:51.000 Okay, and go, and scene, and action.

02:28:54.000 And there's something about...

02:28:57.000 You know, I talk to my friends about it.

02:28:58.000 It's like, there is a way, if you're smart, you're intuitive, and you're emotionally intelligent enough, you can always find your way to that person's core.

02:29:07.000 And you can share a value.

02:29:09.000 If you can share one value, you can make it, you can learn something, even if it's a brief moment, just for a second, an interconnected moment with another person who shares none of your values at all.

02:29:19.000 Do you know who Daryl Davis is?

02:29:21.000 No.

02:29:21.000 Daryl Davis is a brilliant guy.

02:29:24.000 I've had him on my podcast before.

02:29:25.000 He is a blues musician who has personally converted more than 200 KKK and Nazi members and got them to leave.

02:29:35.000 And he did this, he got them to leave these hate groups, and he did this because he met a guy at a gig.

02:29:42.000 He was doing a gig, and he met this guy, and the guy was like, you play, you know, you're a really good musician.

02:29:46.000 And they get to talking, and he sits down with the guy, and the guy says to him while he's talking to him, well, I never had a drink with a black guy before.

02:29:53.000 He thought the guy was joking.

02:29:56.000 He's like, come on, man.

02:29:57.000 And he's like, no, I really haven't.

02:29:59.000 And he goes, you haven't?

02:30:02.000 And he goes, no, I'm in the KKK. And he's like, what?

02:30:05.000 The guy pulls out his fucking KKK ID. What? 1.00

02:30:08.000 Yeah.

02:30:09.000 So Daryl gives this guy his number and says, hey, I'm going to be in town again.

02:30:14.000 You know, when I'm in town again, let's have a drink.

02:30:18.000 Let's talk.

02:30:18.000 So they become friends.

02:30:21.000 So they start talking.

02:30:22.000 A few months after they become friends, the guy hands him his grand wizard outfit and says, I'm quitting.

02:30:30.000 He says, obviously I was wrong. 0.93

02:30:33.000 I had this idea that black people were inferior.

02:30:35.000 First of all, Daryl is extremely intelligent, very articulate, and a brilliant musician. 0.98

02:30:41.000 And just the way he talks, it's very clear that he's smarter than you.

02:30:47.000 Like, he's a smart guy. 1.00

02:30:49.000 So if you're a dumb dude who's in the KKK and you're talking to this... 0.99

02:30:53.000 Guy who you've, in your group, you've determined this is an inferior guy. 1.00

02:30:57.000 But he's obviously smarter than you. 1.00

02:30:59.000 So like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:31:00.000 And he's a really nice guy. 0.99

02:31:01.000 Yeah, he's a nice guest.

02:31:02.000 And so they become friends.

02:31:03.000 They start eating dinner together.

02:31:04.000 He has them over for meals.

02:31:06.000 And just quits.

02:31:07.000 Says, I'm not doing this anymore.

02:31:08.000 I'm not going to be a racist anymore.

02:31:10.000 Hands him his outfit.

02:31:12.000 So Daryl brought all these outfits with him.

02:31:14.000 He showed me this Nazi flag this guy gave him.

02:31:17.000 And he's got all these different Grand Dragon and Grand Wizard and all these different outfits.

02:31:21.000 Whoa.

02:31:21.000 Him personally, his one-on-one interactions has converted more than 200 people.

02:31:27.000 It's amazing.

02:31:28.000 The podcast, please, if you have the time, please find it.

02:31:31.000 Daryl Davis.

02:31:32.000 Daryl Davis.

02:31:32.000 The podcast with me and him.

02:31:33.000 It's three hours long.

02:31:34.000 Of him just telling these stories about meeting these Nazis and meeting these KKK guys and converting them. 0.82

02:31:42.000 That's amazing.

02:31:43.000 And not something he set out to do.

02:31:45.000 This is what's really crazy.

02:31:46.000 As a grown man, just a musician.

02:31:48.000 It just happened.

02:31:48.000 Not set out to do.

02:31:50.000 Yeah, well, you know, it goes down to my new catchphrase is love is efficient.

02:31:55.000 It does.

02:31:56.000 You know what I mean?

02:31:56.000 It does work.

02:31:57.000 Yeah. 0.88

02:31:57.000 It just works because, like, once you're just, like, you're not noticing the stuff and you're just casually talking, you're shooting the shit with somebody and you're like, oh, yeah, it's cool. 0.88

02:32:04.000 Oh, I love, you know, and then before you know it, they're just like, oh, what? 0.87

02:32:08.000 What am I? What?

02:32:09.000 Yeah.

02:32:11.000 It's just, everything crosses.

02:32:12.000 You're like, but they shouldn't be, but I was scared of, but I thought, you know, it's like the first time you meet, like the first time I saw like a queen, you know, like a drag off, you know, and I was like, they're so tall and so boisterous, so big,

02:32:28.000 and I was like, I'll never be able to You know, be able to energetically mingle with someone like that and come to understanding.

02:32:34.000 And then I've had some of the most incredible conversations with so many people of all different kinds of walks of life that I thought I didn't hate them or anything.

02:32:46.000 I just thought...

02:32:47.000 We wouldn't have anything in common.

02:32:48.000 Yeah, they're so different.

02:32:49.000 What would we have in common?

02:32:50.000 And I just realized that I just love pretty much everybody.

02:32:54.000 You can find common ground with almost anybody.

02:32:56.000 I can find common ground with anybody.

02:32:57.000 As long as they're open and they're willing to find common ground with you.

02:33:00.000 Yes, of course.

02:33:01.000 And it's awesome.

02:33:03.000 And a lot of it is just being confident enough in yourself that you're like, whatever they're doing, whatever they're projecting at me, I understand it's them projecting at me.

02:33:11.000 Or brave enough to explore with them.

02:33:14.000 Yes.

02:33:14.000 Brave enough to talk with them about those things.

02:33:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:33:18.000 That's what people need. 0.99

02:33:19.000 Find that fucking common ground in this day and age. 0.98

02:33:21.000 And that's one of the things with gigantic numbers of human beings, the population that we're experiencing. 0.99

02:33:27.000 I mean, hundreds of millions of people in this country.

02:33:30.000 It's hard for us to just realize the value in each individual, each unique individual.

02:33:38.000 A hundred percent.

02:33:39.000 A hundred percent.

02:33:40.000 I mean, it was funny when I had my car dropped off in Montana.

02:33:43.000 Like, I didn't really, you know, everyone kind of keeps themselves in Montana.

02:33:46.000 It's kind of a conservative, you know, place, especially Great Falls.

02:33:50.000 But car came out of the car trailer and my across the street neighbors came out.

02:33:55.000 The other neighbors, when I was a kid, I don't know if it's the same family. 0.99

02:33:59.000 I think it's the same family, but they would call me racist shit all the time. 0.99

02:34:02.000 And my mom would get up in their face and be like, I'm going to kill you if you touch my kid. 1.00

02:34:06.000 Oh, Jesus. 0.98

02:34:07.000 They're still there?

02:34:08.000 Oh, they're still there, yeah.

02:34:09.000 I mean, they've changed.

02:34:10.000 I think they've moved on, but they've changed.

02:34:13.000 And I had some early, when we first moved there, problems with my dad sitting on the porch smoking his cigarettes and people going like, what's that guy doing out there?

02:34:21.000 You know, whatever.

02:34:22.000 And then my mom's white and they're confused.

02:34:24.000 But...

02:34:25.000 But all of these neighbors came out and people came down from the street, you know, and they're just like, oh, what's going on?

02:34:30.000 They're like looking at the car and they're like, oh, hey, can I grab a picture and stuff like that?

02:34:34.000 And the thing that I noticed, it's like, that was the first time all my neighbors were like together on the street for this moment.

02:34:41.000 And then I kind of realized, well, when you have a platform where people recognize what you do, and oh, by the way, congratulations on Spotify.

02:34:48.000 That's fucking rad when I saw that.

02:34:50.000 I was like, good for them to celebrate that. 0.97

02:34:52.000 That's great.

02:34:52.000 Yeah.

02:34:54.000 But when you have a platform, and you could be any way you wanted to be to anybody coming up to you if they recognize you from your platform, but if you are open and inclusive and taking the time to spend with people...

02:35:08.000 It does so much for a community.

02:35:11.000 Yeah, it dissolves those boundaries.

02:35:13.000 Completely.

02:35:14.000 And they're like, well, I was expecting you to be kind of blah, blah, or I was expecting you to be this.

02:35:18.000 And you're like, I'm not any of those things.

02:35:21.000 Let's all just have a good time, man.

02:35:22.000 And let's support local businesses or whatever your mantra is.

02:35:26.000 But in Grave Falls, it's great.

02:35:27.000 I can go places.

02:35:29.000 And most of the time, people are just total sweethearts.

02:35:31.000 And they generally say, thanks a lot for not forgetting about where you came from.

02:35:35.000 That's dope. 0.93

02:35:36.000 That's huge.

02:35:37.000 We just did three hours, dude. 1.00

02:35:39.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:35:39.000 Let's get out of here. 1.00

02:35:40.000 Isn't that crazy? 0.98

02:35:41.000 Let's get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:35:42.000 Reggie Watts, ladies and gentlemen. 0.96

02:35:43.000 Thank you, brother.

02:35:45.000 Bye, everybody.

02:35:46.000 Peace.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 02, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1484 - Reggie Watts

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