The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1486 - Honey Honey

00:00:01.000 What if we, like, wrote you a new theme song?

00:00:03.000 What if we just, like, start pitching theme songs?

00:00:04.000 You can do that.

00:00:05.000 Really?

00:00:06.000 Yeah, I might use it.

00:00:07.000 Cool.

00:00:07.000 Yeah, Ben.

00:00:07.000 We're rolling.

00:00:09.000 We're rolling right now.

00:00:10.000 Yeah.

00:00:10.000 Honey, honey.

00:00:12.000 How did the band get back together?

00:00:13.000 Because literally, the band is back together.

00:00:15.000 Like, you know that expression you say with your friends?

00:00:17.000 Bro, the band's back together!

00:00:19.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:19.000 We haven't even said that shit yet. 0.99

00:00:20.000 The band's back together. 0.99

00:00:22.000 Bam.

00:00:23.000 The band's back together.

00:00:24.000 I said bam?

00:00:24.000 The band's back together.

00:00:26.000 I know.

00:00:27.000 I'd rather say, like, titties! 0.97

00:00:29.000 I'm a bam guy. 0.98

00:00:31.000 I say bam.

00:00:32.000 Bam's good.

00:00:32.000 Yeah, so Bands Back Together started via COVID. We were kind of mad at each other.

00:00:39.000 That's what binds us.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, we were a little mad at each other.

00:00:41.000 Viruses keep you together.

00:00:43.000 And then I got really worried about Ben.

00:00:46.000 The person I live with...

00:00:49.000 We maybe did have COVID at a time.

00:00:51.000 It turns out he tested negative, but he had acute laryngitis at the same time. 0.99

00:00:57.000 So we're just like, oh shit. 0.99

00:00:58.000 See, all those other diseases don't take a break. 0.99

00:01:00.000 Like, oh, COVID's got this.

00:01:02.000 No, didn't he have bronchitis?

00:01:03.000 No, he had acute laryngitis.

00:01:04.000 Well, either way, I was like real mad at you at the time.

00:01:07.000 And I was like, I really love Ben and I'd be really bummed if there weren't Ben.

00:01:13.000 And I... And then we started talking, hanging out.

00:01:17.000 Sometimes that's all it takes.

00:01:18.000 You know, we all get set in our ways. 1.00

00:01:20.000 You get these grudges and these stupid things that you stick in your head. 1.00

00:01:25.000 The best shit is camaraderie. 1.00

00:01:28.000 Friendship and love, that's the best shit. 1.00

00:01:29.000 It's like, whatever you gotta do, and most people want that. 0.98

00:01:33.000 If you ever felt that for someone at one point in time, you probably would feel it again. 0.88

00:01:37.000 Whatever shit you have together, you just gotta talk it out. 0.93

00:01:41.000 Talk it out and don't carry grudges. 1.00

00:01:43.000 Carrying grudges is the worst.

00:01:45.000 Well, we needed to step back for a minute.

00:01:48.000 Yeah, sometimes we all do, right?

00:01:49.000 We had some work to do on ourselves.

00:01:50.000 We took two years, really, where we didn't speak much at all.

00:01:54.000 And when we did, it wasn't good.

00:01:56.000 By the way, shout out to Balls of Steel from the old Robin Ford.

00:01:59.000 Balls of Steel!

00:01:59.000 You brought us all together.

00:02:00.000 Oh my God.

00:02:03.000 That's an inside story, huh?

00:02:06.000 God, how long?

00:02:07.000 It's been a while now.

00:02:08.000 Yeah.

00:02:08.000 What if it was us the whole time?

00:02:10.000 It was us the whole time.

00:02:11.000 Well, you were right.

00:02:12.000 You had to be talented.

00:02:13.000 The video he sent was you guys do an Angel of Death acoustic on the roof of a building in LA. So crazy.

00:02:20.000 That building is right now on fire.

00:02:22.000 Probably.

00:02:23.000 Jesus Christ.

00:02:23.000 Rightfully so.

00:02:25.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:02:27.000 God damn it. 0.99

00:02:28.000 Yeah, when we were practicing last night, there was an earthquake. 0.99

00:02:31.000 Oh, Jesus. 1.00

00:02:32.000 And I was just watching my living room, and I looked at Ben, and I was like, fuck! 1.00

00:02:36.000 No! 1.00

00:02:37.000 What?

00:02:37.000 Well, it's like laryngitis doesn't stop.

00:02:39.000 An earthquake doesn't stop.

00:02:40.000 It's like God saying bam.

00:02:41.000 Just a little one.

00:02:42.000 Shake it up.

00:02:43.000 Bam! 0.98

00:02:43.000 See, that's why I don't say bam. 0.98

00:02:45.000 Could have been saying titties.

00:02:46.000 He could have been saying a lot of things. 0.61

00:02:47.000 He's God. 0.96

00:02:48.000 Titties. 0.96

00:02:48.000 He invented all languages. 0.96

00:02:50.000 In all things.

00:02:51.000 Yeah.

00:02:52.000 All the bad words.

00:02:53.000 God invented those, too.

00:02:54.000 God invented racial slurs, so we have to work it out. 0.72

00:02:57.000 Oh, God.

00:02:59.000 He left us with the work.

00:03:00.000 He invented all the...

00:03:02.000 We need to find a good one for white people. 1.00

00:03:06.000 We really need to balance this out. 0.62

00:03:08.000 A good, juicy slur.

00:03:10.000 It's not a solid one.

00:03:12.000 It's Karen's.

00:03:13.000 What's the white one, Brock?

00:03:16.000 Chad?

00:03:17.000 I think Bradley feels...

00:03:20.000 Sure.

00:03:21.000 Yeah.

00:03:21.000 A lot of poor Bradleys out there.

00:03:22.000 But there's a lot of good Bradleys.

00:03:24.000 Like, what's that Bradley the actor?

00:03:25.000 Bradley Cooper?

00:03:26.000 That guy's badass.

00:03:26.000 He's a really good actor.

00:03:28.000 Super great.

00:03:28.000 So he can't be a Bradley.

00:03:31.000 But there's a lot of cool Chads.

00:03:32.000 Yeah, Brad Pitt.

00:03:33.000 Sorry.

00:03:34.000 There's a lot.

00:03:34.000 Chad Ward.

00:03:35.000 Chad Dawson.

00:03:36.000 There's a lot of great boxers named Chad.

00:03:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:38.000 Shit! 1.00

00:03:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:39.000 Can't even go with Chad! 1.00

00:03:40.000 I don't know.

00:03:41.000 Jamie, what do you got?

00:03:43.000 Turn it around. 1.00

00:03:44.000 Jamie can't say shit. 0.99

00:03:45.000 He's got a girl's name. 0.99

00:03:48.000 What you gonna do?

00:03:49.000 Hey! 0.99

00:03:49.000 What you gonna do? 0.99

00:03:50.000 There's nothing wrong with that, Jamie.

00:03:52.000 Just open it.

00:03:53.000 Calm it down.

00:03:54.000 Yeah.

00:03:55.000 There's nothing wrong with having a girl's name.

00:03:56.000 Let's move past gender, Joe.

00:03:58.000 Bro, I was a kid saying that when I was a kid.

00:04:00.000 Listen, you know I love you, Jamie.

00:04:02.000 Don't spell it that way, Joe.

00:04:03.000 You know I love you.

00:04:04.000 I mean, you could be a Kim. 0.77

00:04:04.000 What's a different way with girls? 0.77

00:04:05.000 Is J-A-M-I with no E? Most of them spell it with the I before the M. That's funny, it's Jamie with no E. Use a Y. Oh, no.

00:04:13.000 We're going to piss off what his name is.

00:04:14.000 Stacey's a rude one to name a boy. 0.97

00:04:16.000 Stacey's tough.

00:04:17.000 That's rude.

00:04:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:19.000 Leslie's kind of tough.

00:04:20.000 Leslie's rude! 1.00

00:04:21.000 It's on the edge. 0.98

00:04:21.000 You hate your kid. 0.98

00:04:22.000 It's like a boy named Sue.

00:04:23.000 It's a Johnny Cash song. 0.99

00:04:25.000 Johnny Cash wrote a goddamn song about it. 0.99

00:04:27.000 Michelle Stoverstein wrote that. 1.00

00:04:29.000 Oh, that's right.

00:04:30.000 That's right.

00:04:31.000 And Johnny Cash sung it. 1.00

00:04:31.000 That was a great fucking song. 1.00

00:04:33.000 Truth? 1.00

00:04:33.000 That's a great fucking song. 1.00

00:04:35.000 I like boy names for girls. 0.99

00:04:37.000 I think that always, like Bobby or Billy.

00:04:39.000 If they're hot, they can pull it off.

00:04:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:41.000 Actually, I wanted to name a girl named Gary.

00:04:43.000 If I ever procreated.

00:04:46.000 Would you do that to that poor little kid? 0.99

00:04:47.000 Yeah, but she'd be like the fucking coolest Gary on the planet. 1.00

00:04:49.000 That's one thing she would probably get over people fucking with her real early in life. 1.00

00:04:54.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

00:04:55.000 Because sometimes if you don't know...

00:04:57.000 That's not how the Boy Named Su song went though.

00:04:59.000 He didn't pan out so well.

00:05:02.000 Then it didn't work out.

00:05:04.000 But who knows what Gary's going to be dealing with in 15 years.

00:05:07.000 She's going to be crazy. 1.00

00:05:08.000 She doesn't care. 0.98

00:05:10.000 I think she's going to be crushing it.

00:05:11.000 People will be beyond that.

00:05:12.000 I am not ready to have children.

00:05:14.000 Well, then don't have kids. 0.99

00:05:18.000 One thing that the kid zealots like to do is they like to pretend that everybody needs to have kids.

00:05:23.000 In order to be valuable in this life, you need to have kids. 0.99

00:05:27.000 That's a lot of fucking pressure on people. 0.99

00:05:29.000 Is that a thing? 0.99

00:05:30.000 Sure.

00:05:31.000 You know what it is?

00:05:31.000 When someone's doing something, they think you should be doing it.

00:05:34.000 Right?

00:05:35.000 Like you talk to someone who just started meditating and they can't shut...

00:05:37.000 That's me. 0.98

00:05:38.000 I can never shut the fuck up about what I like doing. 0.85

00:05:40.000 I'm always trying to get people to do things. 1.00

00:05:42.000 You know, but that's the thing that people with kids are, dude, you gotta have a fucking kid. 1.00

00:05:45.000 You gotta have a fucking kid. 1.00

00:05:47.000 Trust me. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Where's your life?

00:05:49.000 What are you doing?

00:05:49.000 You're not gonna have children?

00:05:50.000 You're not gonna procreate. 0.97

00:05:51.000 Your neighbors aren't gonna carry on like that.

00:05:52.000 Settle down, man.

00:05:53.000 That's never resonated with me, like a legacy. 1.00

00:05:56.000 Because you don't have a penis. 0.99

00:05:58.000 No, but even with my career, I just won't play music. 0.99

00:06:03.000 I don't really think about what's going to last when I'm dead.

00:06:06.000 There's nothing wrong.

00:06:08.000 You're a great person.

00:06:09.000 There's nothing wrong with any way of approaching this life.

00:06:13.000 Have children.

00:06:14.000 Don't have children.

00:06:15.000 Sing music.

00:06:16.000 Don't sing music. 1.00

00:06:17.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want. 1.00

00:06:18.000 You're a great person. 0.99

00:06:19.000 And I do.

00:06:19.000 Thank you.

00:06:20.000 I appreciate that, friend.

00:06:21.000 Listen, friend.

00:06:22.000 But this thing that people put pressure on folks that they have to have kids or their life is not valid and meaningful.

00:06:30.000 Probably because they're having trouble dealing with the pressure of having kids, maybe.

00:06:33.000 Maybe, but it's all silly because you don't live forever.

00:06:36.000 No one, your children won't live forever.

00:06:38.000 No one lives forever.

00:06:39.000 You live, you die, you've got to keep moving.

00:06:41.000 While you're alive, you should just be happy.

00:06:43.000 Just be happy.

00:06:44.000 You're contributing.

00:06:45.000 Everyone's contributing.

00:06:46.000 Whether you have kids or don't have kids. 0.99

00:06:47.000 When you don't have kids, you have the option to love and support the kids in your peripheral area, like my nieces and nephew and stuff, and my friends' kids, and then you can go home and you don't have to deal with the other shit. 0.97

00:06:59.000 Yep, sure, sure. 0.88

00:07:01.000 But then, for me, it was a strong education.

00:07:05.000 Education in humanity and just learning how to be a person, a different kind of person, a person that raises little people, a person that's responsible for babies.

00:07:14.000 It's a totally different feel. 0.99

00:07:16.000 It's like, whew, it fucks with your head.

00:07:18.000 For a lot of people, it creates a ton of anxiety and existential angst and fear about the future.

00:07:25.000 Well, the thing is, if I were to have kids, I would, like, being a mother would be, like, the number one priority.

00:07:31.000 Like, nothing comes before then.

00:07:32.000 And, you know, I would take that seriously.

00:07:34.000 And it's just something that, you know, when you think about...

00:07:37.000 And I'm like, now's the time.

00:07:40.000 How old are you now?

00:07:41.000 Am I allowed to ask a lady? 0.99

00:07:42.000 Yeah, yeah, I'm 35. Oh, you can still pull it off for a few years.

00:07:45.000 I don't age shame, you know?

00:07:46.000 I'm really happy with where I'm at.

00:07:48.000 I think that's so funny when people get really squeamish about that.

00:07:52.000 Well, they feel like they only have a certain amount of time to grab that lightning in the bottle and be validated.

00:08:00.000 And, you know, some people just think...

00:08:06.000 It's going to burn out quick and then life is going to suck. 0.74

00:08:09.000 Somebody age shamed me once and was like, you're almost 40. And I was like, what's wrong with 40? 0.71

00:08:14.000 Was this online?

00:08:15.000 No.

00:08:15.000 That sounds like a YouTube comment.

00:08:18.000 Unfortunately, no.

00:08:18.000 That was in real life someone said that?

00:08:20.000 A guy you know?

00:08:21.000 Oh, rude.

00:08:24.000 How weak.

00:08:25.000 But I mean, again, why would someone do that?

00:08:27.000 They're trying to make you feel bad because they don't feel good.

00:08:28.000 That's what it is.

00:08:29.000 It's always the case.

00:08:30.000 It's no one who feels great is on top of the world. 0.97

00:08:32.000 Dalai Lama's not out there leaving shitty YouTube comments. 0.83

00:08:36.000 What if he was, though? 0.96

00:08:37.000 Imagine if he was.

00:08:38.000 Secretly like...

00:08:39.000 Did you ever see the video?

00:08:41.000 I don't know if you know this, but he got canceled for a little while.

00:08:44.000 No!

00:08:44.000 What did he do?

00:08:45.000 Yeah, the Dalai Lama got cancelled.

00:08:46.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:08:47.000 I bet he dealt with it fine.

00:08:48.000 He was actually talking about this exact same subject.

00:08:52.000 He did this interview where they said, you know, you're celibate, and have you ever thought about being married or having children?

00:08:59.000 He goes, oh, I've seen a lot of marriages. 0.96

00:09:03.000 Much worry.

00:09:04.000 Much cancer.

00:09:06.000 And he goes, plus, when they break up, a woman get all the money. 1.00

00:09:10.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:09:10.000 He's like joking around.

00:09:12.000 And the lady's like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:09:15.000 This is the Dalai Lama? 1.00

00:09:16.000 Oh, no.

00:09:17.000 And then she goes, she actually tries to social justice her way out of it. 1.00

00:09:21.000 Because, you know, she's got to confront him.

00:09:23.000 She goes, actually, sometimes the woman makes her own money. 1.00

00:09:26.000 Oh.

00:09:27.000 And he's like, oh, good one!

00:09:30.000 And sometimes!

00:09:32.000 And so they just put him in time out for a minute?

00:09:35.000 People were saying, should we cancel the Dalai Lama?

00:09:37.000 It was really funny.

00:09:38.000 It was really funny.

00:09:40.000 He's like, you can cancel him if it needs to happen.

00:09:43.000 Then I see him a couple years later, new person, new girlfriend, much worry, much cancer.

00:09:49.000 Still holding that line. 1.00

00:09:50.000 Pussy talks about how women want to spend all the guys' money. 1.00

00:09:53.000 I'm like, this is hilarious. 1.00

00:09:55.000 But has he had a girlfriend?

00:09:56.000 Never!

00:09:57.000 He maybe doesn't know about that stuff.

00:10:00.000 That's guesswork.

00:10:01.000 You should tell him.

00:10:02.000 It's straight guesswork.

00:10:03.000 Yeah.

00:10:04.000 I don't think that's part of that.

00:10:06.000 Yeah, he doesn't know.

00:10:08.000 That life is a strange life.

00:10:10.000 You know, they picked him when he was a baby.

00:10:12.000 He was like a little kid.

00:10:13.000 Right.

00:10:14.000 He was a little kid. 1.00

00:10:15.000 They picked him and they said, you're the fucking man, bro. 1.00

00:10:17.000 Imagine that. 1.00

00:10:18.000 Is he seven?

00:10:18.000 When the last one dies.

00:10:19.000 He was really young.

00:10:20.000 I think he was seven.

00:10:20.000 When the last one dies, they pick a new one.

00:10:22.000 They have a slate of little babies.

00:10:24.000 They're like, could be you, could be you, could be you.

00:10:25.000 How is that monitored?

00:10:28.000 They just have a vibe.

00:10:29.000 It's like a council of...

00:10:31.000 Is there a hat?

00:10:32.000 And you put a bunch of names in it?

00:10:34.000 Or is it like a...

00:10:35.000 I'm not there.

00:10:36.000 I haven't seen it done.

00:10:37.000 Is it required that he's celibate?

00:10:39.000 Is that part of the gig?

00:10:41.000 Imagine that.

00:10:41.000 That's so rude.

00:10:42.000 Yeah.

00:10:43.000 Can't you come to me in my 50s?

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:48.000 Why do you want to come to me as a holy man when I'm seven?

00:10:51.000 Yeah.

00:10:51.000 You don't have a choice yet.

00:10:52.000 You cut off the sex at seven?

00:10:55.000 Never... 0.51

00:10:55.000 Wait. 0.51

00:10:56.000 No, they don't.

00:10:56.000 Okay, sorry.

00:10:57.000 I misinterpreted.

00:10:58.000 I'm saying they're not allowed to ever have sex.

00:11:00.000 They're not castrating him.

00:11:00.000 No, no, no.

00:11:02.000 I didn't think so.

00:11:03.000 Once you said it, I was like, is this something I don't know?

00:11:05.000 It's really a rude way to put it. 0.99

00:11:07.000 Dummy. 0.96

00:11:07.000 Sorry. 0.96

00:11:08.000 It's not like they ever put it on.

00:11:10.000 No, it was already there.

00:11:11.000 He's a baby.

00:11:11.000 Yeah.

00:11:13.000 It's already attached.

00:11:14.000 Wow. 1.00

00:11:15.000 Now I'm thinking about the Dalai Lama's penis. 1.00

00:11:17.000 What year did they pick the Dalai Lama? 1.00

00:11:18.000 Never thought that would happen.

00:11:20.000 No, I didn't either.

00:11:21.000 First time.

00:11:22.000 We share a birthday, I think I should tell you all.

00:11:23.000 You and the Dalai Lama?

00:11:24.000 That is crazy. 0.73

00:11:25.000 That's the truth.

00:11:25.000 That's crazy.

00:11:26.000 You might be spiritual.

00:11:28.000 Those people are hilarious.

00:11:29.000 1984?

00:11:30.000 85?

00:11:30.000 I share a birthday with the Dalai Lama.

00:11:33.000 It's pretty much the same, Joe.

00:11:34.000 Also, a conscious stream.

00:11:36.000 There's a consciousness stream.

00:11:37.000 You know what I watched last night that I haven't seen?

00:11:39.000 I don't think I ever saw it through.

00:11:41.000 It was Zoolander.

00:11:42.000 Oh, it's so good.

00:11:44.000 It's so good. 0.98

00:11:45.000 So ridiculous. 0.96

00:11:46.000 Who am I? It's so ridiculous. 0.99

00:11:48.000 What a great idea to have a super vapid, beautiful man. 0.99

00:11:53.000 Oh, it's so good. 0.98

00:11:54.000 In one of those really slapsticky, silly comedies. 0.91

00:11:57.000 There's so much truth to it, though. 0.92

00:11:59.000 That's the sad part. 0.99

00:12:00.000 I enjoyed the shit out of it. 0.99

00:12:02.000 You knew male models when you were doing male modeling. 0.99

00:12:05.000 I did.

00:12:06.000 You were doing male modeling?

00:12:07.000 You were doing male modeling, right?

00:12:08.000 Yeah.

00:12:09.000 Back in my formative years when I was a male model, news grenade, things have changed.

00:12:16.000 No, I did.

00:12:17.000 I did, yeah.

00:12:18.000 I mean, it's kind of like, I've got to choose my words carefully here.

00:12:22.000 There's a thing.

00:12:23.000 I think modeling in general is a very odd thing.

00:12:27.000 I was a model from 14 to like 18. It's kind of like the Dalai Lama.

00:12:32.000 They just chose you.

00:12:34.000 No.

00:12:34.000 Wait.

00:12:35.000 I went for it.

00:12:36.000 And my mom took me to this agency and I was making money.

00:12:41.000 I was just working every other week for value city department stores.

00:12:46.000 Anyone?

00:12:46.000 Where my Clevelanders at.

00:12:48.000 And eventually I kept getting...

00:12:50.000 I never saw it as the end all be all.

00:12:53.000 I wanted the bridge to something else as I figured out where my area of entertainment was.

00:12:59.000 I was an actor for a while. 0.87

00:13:01.000 But, you know, if that's all you got and you're just sort of, like, paid to look beautiful, like, there's something really fucked up about that. 0.83

00:13:07.000 Like, it's not a healthy mindset. 0.97

00:13:10.000 And I saw lots of eating disorders and all kinds of really sad shit that, like, you know, people's identities are wrapped up in this. 0.91

00:13:16.000 And I remember I... I gained a little weight when I was 18 because I went on birth control. 0.96

00:13:22.000 And I was in the middle of my agency and they were measuring me in front of people.

00:13:26.000 And they were like, you got to lose two inches. 0.98

00:13:28.000 And it's a fucking hard thing. 0.98

00:13:31.000 And I just quit. 0.98

00:13:32.000 I started bartending.

00:13:34.000 I didn't want it that badly.

00:13:36.000 And I like pizza.

00:13:38.000 That's such a weird thing to say.

00:13:39.000 I know. 0.99

00:13:40.000 It's really fucked up. 0.99

00:13:41.000 That's so specific. 0.99

00:13:42.000 Yeah.

00:13:43.000 What if I lose two and a half?

00:13:45.000 Would you get me worried?

00:13:46.000 Well, you need to fit the clothes, you know?

00:13:48.000 I think, I mean, I don't...

00:13:49.000 It's like fighters, though, right?

00:13:50.000 Well, no.

00:13:51.000 No, no, no.

00:13:52.000 I didn't mean to compare.

00:13:54.000 But actually, I kind of like it.

00:13:55.000 But they're used in every way.

00:13:57.000 They're used to hearing that guy saying...

00:13:59.000 When I was training as a model.

00:14:03.000 Alright, alright.

00:14:03.000 Rescinded.

00:14:05.000 But no, it is a thing where you're both relying on your body entirely for your living.

00:14:11.000 There's a skill involved though.

00:14:12.000 And for women, I would imagine women already worry about being marginalized for their brain anyway. 1.00

00:14:20.000 So then it's almost like some of them feel like they have to prove themselves extra because they happen to be pretty and they're a model and people just assume they're a moron. 0.99

00:14:27.000 Right? 1.00

00:14:28.000 That's an issue too.

00:14:29.000 Yeah, that's an issue.

00:14:30.000 I mean, yeah.

00:14:31.000 I don't know.

00:14:33.000 But there's also people who figure it out. 0.99

00:14:34.000 There's girls who do it and then they do other shit. 1.00

00:14:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:37.000 It can be done.

00:14:38.000 Hey, it's me, Suze.

00:14:38.000 There you go.

00:14:41.000 That's why I get kind of annoyed when people will talk about any job being inherently toxic.

00:14:46.000 Okay, a lot of jobs have the potential for toxicity, everything. 0.99

00:14:51.000 Including, like, you know, fucking everything. 0.99

00:14:54.000 All of them. 1.00

00:14:54.000 All jobs could fuck you up. 1.00

00:14:56.000 All jobs could distort your perception. 0.96

00:14:57.000 I mean, how about being a cop? 0.99

00:14:59.000 That could fucking distort your perception. 0.99

00:15:01.000 How about being a doctor? 0.99

00:15:02.000 Emergency room doctor.

00:15:03.000 Every day, bullet wounds, stab wounds, car accidents.

00:15:06.000 Dealing with that every day. 1.00

00:15:08.000 That shit's gotta be bad for you. 1.00

00:15:10.000 That kid can't be good for your head. 1.00

00:15:11.000 100%.

00:15:12.000 Oh, the model's worried about losing two inches. 1.00

00:15:14.000 You're gonna be okay?

00:15:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:15:16.000 No, like, I'm okay.

00:15:17.000 I'm not gonna keep my violin out over this.

00:15:19.000 You know, the doctor's not 14 years old.

00:15:21.000 That's a difference.

00:15:21.000 Oh, you're only super hot, not super duper hot?

00:15:27.000 Jesus!

00:15:28.000 How do you do it?

00:15:30.000 I was definitely lower level.

00:15:32.000 For sure.

00:15:33.000 I was like catalog.

00:15:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:36.000 I knew what I was.

00:15:36.000 It's all kind of crazy, right?

00:15:38.000 You just get this amazing roll of the dice with your bone structure and then everybody's like, here's some money.

00:15:42.000 You're like, what do I have to do for this?

00:15:44.000 You don't have to do anything.

00:15:45.000 You just gotta do this.

00:15:46.000 Dance like a monkey, Derek.

00:15:47.000 Well, you've got to be smart with it.

00:15:48.000 You've got to know what it is.

00:15:49.000 Know that there's an expiration date on it.

00:15:52.000 What are you going to do with the money you make?

00:15:53.000 What are you going to do with any of the...

00:15:55.000 That's how I started acting, and I loved it.

00:15:58.000 It's kind of crazy, though, if you really stop and think about it.

00:16:01.000 That is the biggest lottery in life for a lot of folks, is how do you look?

00:16:05.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 If you're Jason Momoa, it's amazing that he's a good guy.

00:16:11.000 It's amazing that he's a good guy.

00:16:13.000 Because he's too beautiful.

00:16:15.000 He's too good looking.

00:16:16.000 You know he was sitting next to us at the Sturgill concert.

00:16:19.000 He was on one side and then Johnny Bernthal, the Punisher, was on the other and it was like one of the best days of my life.

00:16:27.000 Well, it was cool.

00:16:28.000 I enjoyed that very much.

00:16:30.000 I don't get to see concerts like that.

00:16:32.000 It was so great.

00:16:33.000 And to go and see it with you, that was really fun.

00:16:36.000 We had fun.

00:16:36.000 We had dinner together.

00:16:38.000 Where was the show?

00:16:39.000 The show was at the Troubadour.

00:16:40.000 The Troubadour?

00:16:41.000 Dude, it was awesome. 0.99

00:16:42.000 And it was the Fire and Fury, this new shit that he's doing. 0.85

00:16:46.000 But he's also doing a lot of stuff from his old catalog, too. 0.91

00:16:50.000 So it was awesome.

00:16:51.000 And it was real intimate.

00:16:52.000 Like, what is that?

00:16:53.000 400 people or something?

00:16:54.000 Five.

00:16:55.000 Stuff.

00:16:56.000 We sold it out once.

00:16:57.000 We know.

00:16:58.000 It was like one of the greatest moments of Honey Honey.

00:17:00.000 And it's also one of the great venues in L.A. It's a double-decker, but it's still intimate.

00:17:04.000 It's really rare in the way it's set up.

00:17:07.000 I mean, it's set up amazing.

00:17:09.000 Like, where we were was incredible.

00:17:10.000 Like, up above, in that little balcony area, next to the Punisher. 0.92

00:17:15.000 A lot of intensity.

00:17:17.000 We talked about this.

00:17:18.000 I think I told you this, but when we went to dinner afterwards, John Prine was right in front of us, and I... Really, really wanted to tell him how much I loved his music.

00:17:29.000 And I chickened out.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, I remember we were talking about it.

00:17:33.000 I didn't know who he was.

00:17:34.000 That was the first time I ever heard of him.

00:17:38.000 And then when I heard he died from COVID, I was like, oh, that's that dude.

00:17:42.000 You know, he's worth checking out and really digging into who he was.

00:17:47.000 Sergio loved him.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, he's magical.

00:17:49.000 Beautiful.

00:17:51.000 Can you remember a specific famous song that people would recommend?

00:17:55.000 Angel from Montgomery.

00:17:56.000 Can you do it?

00:17:57.000 I'll mess it up.

00:17:58.000 So what?

00:17:59.000 Ben!

00:18:00.000 Can you pull up the lyrics?

00:18:03.000 Listen, one of the best music shows I've ever seen in my life is when you guys were on stage with Gary Clark and you were singing Midnight Rider.

00:18:10.000 Careful, you might have to pay the Allman Brothers right now.

00:18:12.000 Isn't that crazy? 0.99

00:18:14.000 That shit got pulled off the podcast. 1.00

00:18:16.000 We have to pay the Allman Brothers. 1.00

00:18:18.000 Or whoever owns it. 1.00

00:18:19.000 Yeah, when that happens more than three times, they can't see your fucking account. 0.99

00:18:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:24.000 Okay, this might be sloppy.

00:18:26.000 Oh, look at that, Susan. 0.89

00:18:27.000 Oh, there you go.

00:18:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:18:28.000 Is that good?

00:18:29.000 Is this key?

00:18:32.000 Do the Bonnie Raitt key.

00:18:34.000 I don't know what key she does in, but we'll just find it.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, okay.

00:18:47.000 Forgive her, we're finding a key.

00:18:49.000 It might be weird.

00:18:50.000 People are fine with this.

00:18:52.000 Don't worry about this.

00:18:53.000 They love the weirdness.

00:18:54.000 People love seeing how musicians put together a song.

00:18:58.000 You're just talking, and then you jump into an awesome song.

00:19:03.000 It always puts the pressure on.

00:19:05.000 There's no pressure.

00:19:06.000 In the best way.

00:19:08.000 It's good for you.

00:19:09.000 I know.

00:19:10.000 My heart is racing.

00:19:11.000 Have a sip of that whiskey.

00:19:13.000 Explain this whiskey again, Ben.

00:19:17.000 That whiskey, Uncle Nearest, this guy named Nathan Green, was at least, to my knowledge, the first recognized master distiller who was an African-American, taught Jack Daniels how to do his thing.

00:19:29.000 Freed slave after the Civil War.

00:19:32.000 And this is the whiskey you brought in.

00:19:33.000 Thank you very much.

00:19:34.000 It says 1856. That's it.

00:19:37.000 Okay.

00:19:38.000 Did you hear that?

00:19:38.000 I wasn't listening.

00:19:48.000 Got it?

00:19:49.000 Yeah.

00:19:49.000 Okay, is that that key?

00:19:50.000 Who was singing that version of it?

00:19:52.000 Bonnie Raitt.

00:19:52.000 Bonnie Raitt's Beast.

00:19:54.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 That lady.

00:19:57.000 Yeah.

00:20:10.000 I am an old woman Named after my mother My old man is another A child that's grown old If dreams were thunder And lightning was desire This old house would have burned down A long time ago That

00:20:42.000 flies from Montgomery Make me a poster of an old rodeo Just give me one thing that I can hold on to To believe in this living is just a hard way Right?

00:21:10.000 Job Prime, come on. 1.00

00:21:13.000 Wow.

00:21:15.000 We'll have to work that out in a fuller version.

00:21:17.000 Whatever, you sound great.

00:21:18.000 There's more to it.

00:21:19.000 Do you want to keep going?

00:21:20.000 Well, you want to play Big Man?

00:21:21.000 Let's keep playing.

00:21:22.000 Okay, keep playing this one.

00:21:23.000 This is so good, though.

00:21:24.000 Okay, all right.

00:21:25.000 I love Big Man, too, though.

00:21:27.000 I want to hear that next.

00:21:28.000 All right.

00:21:31.000 When I was a young girl And I had me a cowboy It wasn't much to look at Just a free rambling man That was a long time No matter how I tried Those years just flown by Like a broken down man Baby Just

00:22:13.000 give me one thing I can hold on to To believe in this living It's just a hard way to go Tag it Leaving this living is a hard way to go.

00:22:36.000 That was beautiful.

00:22:38.000 That was really beautiful.

00:22:40.000 You get the living room jam.

00:22:42.000 You guys should 100% cover that song.

00:22:45.000 100%.

00:22:46.000 I think we just did it.

00:22:47.000 You did.

00:22:48.000 But you should put that on something.

00:22:49.000 That was awesome.

00:22:50.000 We gotta do it for Joe.

00:22:52.000 Don't do it for me.

00:22:53.000 Do it for the world.

00:22:53.000 King of Spotify, we will do it for you.

00:22:55.000 I'm not even the prince.

00:22:57.000 You're not even the prince.

00:22:57.000 You're the king.

00:22:58.000 I'm the court jester.

00:22:59.000 Oh, whatever.

00:23:01.000 Humble man.

00:23:02.000 You want to do big man?

00:23:03.000 Since we're like here.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, let's do it.

00:23:05.000 I might need to tune up though because it's chilly in here.

00:23:08.000 Is it chilly in here?

00:23:09.000 Do you want to...

00:23:10.000 No, no, no.

00:23:10.000 From the fiddle point.

00:23:13.000 Not bad.

00:23:15.000 Let me tune it.

00:23:16.000 And this isn't live.

00:23:17.000 No.

00:23:18.000 Okay.

00:23:18.000 But we're not editing it.

00:23:23.000 Okay, okay, okay. 1.00

00:23:24.000 Well, shit. 0.99

00:23:26.000 Isn't that crazy that you know how, whether it's warm or cold, based on the strings, based on you running that thing across, what is that thing called? 1.00

00:23:34.000 The wand.

00:23:35.000 It's a wand.

00:23:36.000 That's so much better than what it's called.

00:23:38.000 What is it called?

00:23:38.000 It's called a wand.

00:23:40.000 It's a bow.

00:23:40.000 It's called a bow.

00:23:41.000 Is it really?

00:23:41.000 Yeah, it's a bow.

00:23:42.000 Oh, of course.

00:23:43.000 Bow and fiddle.

00:23:43.000 Made out of horse hair.

00:23:44.000 Is it made out of horse hair?

00:23:45.000 I'm going to call it a wand now.

00:23:46.000 A wand sounds better, right?

00:23:48.000 What's that music wand?

00:23:49.000 Because I've always wanted to be a wizard.

00:23:51.000 You kind of are.

00:23:52.000 I was watching this one thing on TikTok where they had this girl who was a witch and they said, you know, we want to know, like, have you actively cursed the police officers and have you cursed the looters?

00:24:08.000 And she was going, oh yeah, we've already done that.

00:24:11.000 We've already put hexes on all of that.

00:24:13.000 So we're good, right?

00:24:14.000 Like, there's active witches out there. 0.97

00:24:16.000 On the road to peace.

00:24:16.000 Check.

00:24:17.000 I mean, well, I have comments on that.

00:24:20.000 Okay.

00:24:20.000 Comments on witches?

00:24:22.000 No, more intentions of like what a spell is and like the way that people orchestrate that.

00:24:28.000 It's kind of powerful.

00:24:29.000 It's like prayer in a way.

00:24:31.000 Yeah, but it gets weird.

00:24:35.000 Well, we all want people to like us and all someone has to do is not like you ferociously and that can make you upset.

00:24:42.000 I'm not talking about negative spells.

00:24:44.000 But I'm just saying that's the beginning of it, right? 0.84

00:24:46.000 If someone has a lot of intention and they put intention on you like having a terrible life or you getting diseases and you hear about that, it probably fucks with your head.

00:24:57.000 I mean, that's what voodoo is probably all about. 0.99

00:24:59.000 For sure.

00:24:59.000 And for all intents and purposes, I think there are ramifications if that is the trajectory.

00:25:04.000 If you're really putting bad vibes into something, it's going to come back in a really shitty way. 0.99

00:25:10.000 But they only do it because their life sucks. 1.00

00:25:12.000 I think people that do shit like that, they do it because their life sucks. 0.99

00:25:16.000 Let's hope their lives get better. 0.99

00:25:17.000 Let's do that.

00:25:18.000 Let's give them the tools. 1.00

00:25:20.000 This is for them.

00:25:20.000 Actually, no.

00:25:21.000 This is for...

00:25:22.000 We're going to play Big Man?

00:25:23.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 Yeah, we want to do this...

00:25:25.000 This is for them.

00:25:27.000 No.

00:25:27.000 That's got another idea.

00:25:28.000 I agree.

00:25:30.000 We want to dedicate this to George Floyd because his nickname was Big Floyd.

00:25:36.000 I obviously didn't know him.

00:25:38.000 Well, not all of the lyrics line up, but it's an homage to a great man who passed originally and it just feels apropos.

00:25:48.000 To do it now.

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 Cool.

00:25:52.000 Can you face me a little bit?

00:25:54.000 Grazie.

00:25:55.000 Grazie.

00:26:10.000 When the big man died, they spilled buckets out of their eyes.

00:26:19.000 Playing white faces and playing grey stones, he took that white coat Sing for that big man,

00:26:36.000 baby Down by the river in the railroad tracks Baby ain't happy that he's gone But that won't bring him back to life now When he went down,

00:26:54.000 there was a trembling pull And they came far and wide to the few.

00:27:03.000 When the people showed up, they were broken willed.

00:27:09.000 They drink all day and they pop pills.

00:27:17.000 Sing for that big man, baby.

00:27:20.000 Down by the river in the railroad tracks.

00:27:23.000 Baby ain't happy that he's gone.

00:27:26.000 That won't bring him back to life.

00:27:31.000 guitar solo Bones

00:28:01.000 buried young Bones buried deep Bones that won't shake Now lay to sleep And he looks down, oh he looks up.

00:28:20.000 He was a good man, that was enough.

00:28:31.000 We're good to go.

00:28:34.000 We're good to go.

00:28:40.000 We're good to go.

00:28:46.000 We're good to go.

00:28:55.000 Thank you.

00:29:08.000 That was tough.

00:29:10.000 We got through it.

00:29:13.000 All this stuff that's been going on lately.

00:29:15.000 You know, it's nervous coming on.

00:29:19.000 Dedicating it to George Floyd.

00:29:20.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:29:22.000 Yeah.

00:29:25.000 It's obviously intense time.

00:29:27.000 I think ultimately society needed this. 0.98

00:29:30.000 They didn't need that guy to die, but they needed this event to snap out of whatever bullshit relationship particularly the black community has with police and the videos that have come out since of police officers doing shit while this is all going on during this like it's like they have a they have a pattern Some of these cops. 0.99

00:29:55.000 They can't break out of it. 1.00

00:29:56.000 They're used to treating people like shit. 1.00

00:29:58.000 They're used to violently assaulting people. 1.00

00:30:00.000 Yes, the directive.

00:30:01.000 There's so much of it. 1.00

00:30:02.000 There's so much crazy shit of guys using batons on women just standing there. 1.00

00:30:06.000 The girl's just standing there. 1.00

00:30:07.000 And he's using the baton on the front of her thighs and throws her onto the ground. 1.00

00:30:10.000 I'm like, fucking come on, man. 0.99

00:30:13.000 How are you doing this? 0.99

00:30:14.000 Because someone won't comply.

00:30:16.000 The position of being a person that has that kind of power over people, where people have to comply to you, is just psychologically fraught with peril.

00:30:27.000 Whether it's black people, there's a lot of it doing with white people.

00:30:30.000 There's a horrible video on my friend Joe Schilling's page. 0.84

00:30:33.000 Joe, you know, Joe Schilling the kickboxer.

00:30:35.000 He's got a page on his Instagram. 1.00

00:30:37.000 He's been putting post after post is police brutality shit. 1.00

00:30:41.000 Post after post. 1.00

00:30:42.000 It's like, is this to serve or protect?

00:30:43.000 And this is this old man and the guy has a cane and the cops are slamming into him with their shield and he goes flying and falls and hits his head on a bike rack. 0.99

00:30:51.000 It's fucking horrible. 0.99

00:30:53.000 It's horrible. 1.00

00:30:53.000 I mean, that has been going on. 1.00

00:30:57.000 It's been going on in the black community, clearly. 0.86

00:31:01.000 We have a shitload of evidence that's been going on with all kinds of people. 0.98

00:31:05.000 It's an overall problem.

00:31:07.000 There's a racism component to it, but the problem is police brutality.

00:31:12.000 I was reading about...

00:31:14.000 So 40% of police officers have sleep disorders and PTSD. So they're just constantly...

00:31:21.000 40% of police officers have sleep disorders and admit to error on the job, i.e.

00:31:25.000 falling asleep in their cruisers, violent acts, anger issues.

00:31:30.000 And, you know, a lot of...

00:31:31.000 I'm trying to understand... 0.93

00:31:33.000 As much as possible because it's so fucking sensitive. 0.89

00:31:37.000 They need to apply the same rehabilitative mindset to the police force as people are calling for in communities of color as well. 0.61

00:31:45.000 Obviously, it has to be a joint effort.

00:31:48.000 Look, they have to do something.

00:31:49.000 Something has to be done to psychologically address the real consequences of seeing violence and murder and horrible things every day.

00:32:00.000 There's a price you're paying if that's what you're doing with your life.

00:32:04.000 Like you open the door, a guy killed himself with a shotgun.

00:32:07.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:32:08.000 Just brain splatter all over the wall. 0.99

00:32:10.000 Open the door, there's a girl who was raped and stabbed. 1.00

00:32:11.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:32:13.000 You know, open the door, there's someone who just overdosed from fentanyl.

00:32:16.000 They're 18 years old.

00:32:17.000 That's what you're seeing all day long. 1.00

00:32:19.000 You're just always like, fucking... 1.00

00:32:21.000 And the solution isn't to just pay them more. 1.00

00:32:24.000 Like, oh, here's hazard pay.

00:32:26.000 Well, my friend Dakota Meyer.

00:32:28.000 Dakota Meyer is a guy who served overseas and had some horrific instances where he literally had to fight a man to the death and kill him with a rock.

00:32:39.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:32:40.000 Yeah, heavy shit. 1.00

00:32:42.000 He talked about it on the podcast. 1.00

00:32:43.000 I was like, fuck. 1.00

00:32:46.000 He's fighting for his life with this guy because they were in war. 1.00

00:32:49.000 The guy was the enemy and he had to kill a bunch of guys that day and save his friend.

00:32:55.000 It's a crazy story that's best told by him.

00:32:58.000 But anyway, point is, he was talking about this shot that they're doing on soldiers with PTSD. It's some kind of a blocker shot.

00:33:07.000 You remember that shot, Jamie? 0.98

00:33:09.000 I could text him if we have to but they give it to Soldiers and people with PTSD and whatever that anxiety is all that fucking pent-up shit that just you just can't be normal It goes away and it can last for as long as a year What? 0.97

00:33:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:33:26.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:33:27.000 It's a shot. 1.00

00:33:28.000 It's called...

00:33:29.000 There's got to be some weird...

00:33:31.000 It's administered by healthcare professionals into the neck of an individual with screens suffering from PTSD. The treatment is not a cure for PTSD. He was talking about how amazing it was.

00:33:42.000 He was saying...

00:33:44.000 See right there, that second article there, it said something about prolonged relief.

00:33:48.000 For the debilitating symptoms, yeah.

00:33:50.000 It's not a cure, however, it's highly effective, well-tolerated, fast-acting, inexpensive biologic technique that provides prolonged relief from the debilitating symptoms of PTSD. Did they just start doing that?

00:34:02.000 Is that a brand new thing?

00:34:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:04.000 I think it's pretty recent.

00:34:05.000 But I also think that your brain, when it encounters a lot of things that are awful, I think it really alters the chemistry of your brain.

00:34:17.000 I think it really alters your ability to make good decisions.

00:34:20.000 You can make a real rational case that they're almost intoxicated.

00:34:24.000 Yeah.

00:34:25.000 100%.

00:34:25.000 Well, they're running on adrenaline.

00:34:27.000 Right.

00:34:27.000 When you see these cops, did you see when they were clearing out the square for Trump to have his Bible photo op?

00:34:34.000 You've got cops slamming into people.

00:34:36.000 Like, how do they get that ramped up that they're doing that?

00:34:38.000 Could you ever do that?

00:34:39.000 Would you just walk right up to someone and slam them with a shield?

00:34:41.000 Of course you wouldn't.

00:34:42.000 Like, you have to get— These guys are terrified, too, obviously.

00:34:45.000 The cops are terrified, for sure.

00:34:46.000 But you have to get to a point where you can do that, right?

00:34:49.000 There's something has to happen.

00:34:50.000 Well, that's a biologic drug that your body's producing.

00:34:53.000 And these guys are junkies.

00:34:55.000 They're adrenaline junkies.

00:34:56.000 Literally, I told you about the therapy I just did.

00:34:59.000 This is what I've been trying to weed out of my life is my insomnia and get my brain levels and my...

00:35:07.000 I've just been running on adrenaline.

00:35:10.000 And now that I'm leveling out, It's so weird to live – I can function better.

00:35:16.000 I can process my stress in a way that I never could for over a decade.

00:35:21.000 And the reason I was – I was reading about Saraset – I think they did this study.

00:35:27.000 I'll send it to you at some point and we could probably post it.

00:35:30.000 But the – The conditions that police officers are under physically, like from night shifts just to stress to what you said, opening the door and seeing all these just horrifying things and not having the therapeutic elements and rehabilitation.

00:35:41.000 And then you factor in racism or just discrimination.

00:35:46.000 Like, I mean, it's a lethal combination and it's so crazy to just see it like we are every day now.

00:35:52.000 It's just all out in the open.

00:35:53.000 And now it's like, what do we do to help these people?

00:35:58.000 Like get to the point, the place that they're supposed to be, which is protecting us.

00:36:02.000 Well, you got a clean house.

00:36:04.000 Yeah.

00:36:04.000 You got a clean house.

00:36:05.000 You got to go in there and you got to get it rid of anyone who exhibits any sort of behavior like that in any way, in any abusive, you can't have any abuse.

00:36:15.000 Because you have an extraordinary ability to control people.

00:36:18.000 A normal person is not allowed to treat people like that.

00:36:21.000 So for you to be able to do that, you have to show that you're an unusual person.

00:36:24.000 You're a powerful person.

00:36:26.000 You can control it.

00:36:27.000 You can be a good person even under the pressure of life or death conflict on a daily basis.

00:36:34.000 That's not a normal person. 0.97

00:36:36.000 And by the way, when these guys are in it 15, 20 years, how fucking sick are they by 20 years? 0.96

00:36:42.000 And how unprepared are they when they've been training for six months? 0.94

00:36:45.000 And boom, done.

00:36:46.000 You're out on the street.

00:36:47.000 How about a day?

00:36:47.000 Well, and they're 18. First day of the job.

00:36:49.000 A lot of cops sign up for law enforcement when they're fucking 18 years old. 1.00

00:36:53.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:36:54.000 Your brain's not even fully formed. 1.00

00:36:55.000 No, exactly.

00:36:56.000 Exactly.

00:36:56.000 Like, that in and of itself, you get, like, a big, strong kid, you know?

00:37:00.000 And I'm primarily speaking about men.

00:37:03.000 You know, I'm sure women could do it, too, but, like, it's different.

00:37:05.000 And, you know, their brain's not fully formed, and then their life is in your hands.

00:37:10.000 Or your life is in their hands.

00:37:11.000 Yeah.

00:37:11.000 It's like, what?

00:37:12.000 Well, another thing that came out of this whole COVID thing, and then with this coming afterwards, it's like, when you're dealing with perpetually crime-ridden neighborhoods, like, they've had crime in them forever, and a lot of these neighborhoods are African-American neighborhoods that have had crime, 0.98

00:37:30.000 like, whether it's the south side of Chicago or outside of Baltimore, like, when you see how the government can spend so much money bailing out corporations that are fucked, But they don't bail out cities that are fucked? 0.99

00:37:44.000 Hold on. 1.00

00:37:45.000 You knew Baltimore was fucked. 1.00

00:37:47.000 No one had any questions whether parts of Baltimore were just fucked. 1.00

00:37:50.000 In fact, there was laws. 0.99

00:37:52.000 They used to redline.

00:37:53.000 You weren't allowed to buy a house in certain areas if you were an African American.

00:37:59.000 So we know that.

00:38:00.000 How come you bail out corporations because you never bailed out these inner cities?

00:38:05.000 It would have cost a fraction to set up community centers, build much better affordable housing.

00:38:12.000 Leadership is too short-sighted for that, and that's like a spiritual deficit.

00:38:17.000 But what's crazy is they all want to pretend that they're pro-American. 0.96

00:38:20.000 If you were pro-American, you would want less losers. 0.73

00:38:24.000 You would want more people that have an opportunity to get out of bad circumstances.

00:38:29.000 And whatever those bad circumstances are, you'd want to keep people safe.

00:38:34.000 You're always going to run into bad circumstances with people that have drug addictions.

00:38:38.000 You're not going to cure all that.

00:38:40.000 That's a human issue. 0.99

00:38:41.000 Humans are crazy.

00:38:42.000 You're not going to stop broken families and all that stuff. 0.96

00:38:46.000 That's just a part of being a person. 0.95

00:38:47.000 But you can do a way better job of protecting people from crime, a way better job Of insulating them from drug deals and all that crazy shit.

00:38:57.000 Well, and shielding them or integrating people in a healthier way into an economic system that addresses their needs. 0.72

00:39:04.000 But that's what we're so vulnerable from, from a leadership perspective.

00:39:10.000 Because of lobbying and because of just like a natural instinct of self-protectionism.

00:39:16.000 And like, well, I've got to make sure that my family is taken care of first and not.

00:39:19.000 The cornerstone speech that Killer Mike encouraged people to read, did you guys read that?

00:39:23.000 I've seen it, yeah.

00:39:25.000 It's really intense and, you know, it was written by, names escaping me, but like a confederate.

00:39:32.000 Yeah, okay, the vice president.

00:39:32.000 I was going to say president or vice president of the confederacy.

00:39:35.000 And like for all intents and purposes like the first half of the speech was like pretty logical in terms of commerce and how to care for your cities and like you know just you know economics and then he just gets down to this part where he talks about African Americans is like They're subhuman. 0.94

00:39:55.000 It's just so clear cut and dry in his mind that the superior race is white. 0.54

00:40:01.000 By God, he was quoting the Bible and thousands and millions of people, millions of people Follow that ethos.

00:40:11.000 And that doesn't just go away.

00:40:13.000 So in terms of redlining, when people want to know why ghettos, it's so hard to get out of the ghetto.

00:40:21.000 This has been made by design and even further back, just the thought. 0.96

00:40:26.000 That, like, yeah, black people are the slaves. 1.00

00:40:29.000 Like, they're beneath us. 1.00

00:40:30.000 So they need to be in their place.

00:40:32.000 And, like, it's just nuts, like, to read this speech.

00:40:34.000 It was – and to think about how many people were behind it.

00:40:38.000 And that's what we're up against, even though it was 300 or 400 years ago.

00:40:42.000 Is that what it was, 1600s?

00:40:43.000 18. Sorry.

00:40:45.000 Well, it's weird walking in, being an adult in 2020, right, and not having anything to do with anything that happened in the 1800s, but you walk into the wake Of that era,

00:41:01.000 into the echo of that era.

00:41:02.000 It's not that long ago.

00:41:03.000 I don't know.

00:41:04.000 150 years ago, there was...

00:41:06.000 152 years ago, there were slaves.

00:41:08.000 That's crazy.

00:41:09.000 I know.

00:41:10.000 That's not even two lifetimes.

00:41:11.000 Yeah, that's a blink of an eye.

00:41:12.000 That's a blink of an eye.

00:41:12.000 It's not that long ago.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, and what's really crazy is...

00:41:17.000 Like, we have a thing that we do with Native Americans, right?

00:41:23.000 We kind of acknowledge that our settlers, the European settlers, the original great—whether they're your relatives or not, mine aren't.

00:41:30.000 Mine all came third—I'm third generation, so my family arrived in the 20th century. 0.98

00:41:35.000 But the people that arrived— Earlier than that, like if your family goes all the way back to 1600, there's some fucking Native American blood on your hands, son. 0.99

00:41:43.000 Yeah! 0.99

00:41:44.000 There just is.

00:41:45.000 Well, my father was in the railroad business. 1.00

00:41:48.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:41:49.000 How did he get that fucking railroad through Indian country? 1.00

00:41:52.000 You had to kill some people, man. 1.00

00:41:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:41:54.000 So, the United States has kind of acknowledged that they fucked up and they gave the Native Americans reservations. 0.81

00:42:02.000 That was the whole idea. 0.96

00:42:03.000 It's like you can have your own laws.

00:42:04.000 You can make casinos. 1.00

00:42:05.000 You can do wild shit. 1.00

00:42:07.000 You can do it all right here. 1.00

00:42:08.000 Okay?

00:42:09.000 We're just going to leave you alone.

00:42:10.000 Yeah.

00:42:10.000 But it's real slippery, right?

00:42:12.000 But they didn't...

00:42:13.000 You know, that's a false promise.

00:42:15.000 Yeah, they didn't leave them alone.

00:42:15.000 If they started finding wealth on their lands, then it got even worse.

00:42:20.000 I just read this book called Killers of the Flower Moon, which is just a...

00:42:25.000 A horrifying thing that happened in our history that is not well known with the Osage Native American tribe in Oklahoma, and they were all forced onto this reservation, and it turned out to be millions and millions of dollars rich in oil.

00:42:41.000 And then all of the members of the tribe were given head rights, and every year all these white people would come in, and they would rent their land basically for oil rigs. 0.78

00:42:55.000 And each member of the tribe had millions of dollars.

00:42:57.000 But the government didn't recognize them as full citizens, so they were given stewards to manage their wealth. 0.99

00:43:04.000 So a lot of them were living in poverty while their fucking babysitters were robbing them, murdering them. 0.98

00:43:11.000 And the whole book is about this series of murders and also how the FBI was birthed. 1.00

00:43:16.000 Oh my god, damn the FBI again! 0.99

00:43:19.000 So Hoover used this as his platform because, but the sad part is there was like three dudes that went to jail for killing like 25 people. 1.00

00:43:30.000 One, they weren't given, they weren't put to death because no white jury could kill them for killing Native Americans because they weren't considered full human.

00:43:41.000 Jenny, send me a picture of that.

00:43:42.000 That's crazy. 0.70

00:43:43.000 It's insane, and it's heartbreaking, and it really echoes what's going on now with the way that black people are treated. 1.00

00:43:49.000 It's like, people didn't give a fuck about Native Americans. 1.00

00:43:52.000 And then they got rich, and then they're like, let's fuck them again. 1.00

00:43:56.000 Let's make sure that we can still steal from them. 1.00

00:43:59.000 It's horrifying.

00:44:00.000 But the thing is, there was no justice for their murderers.

00:44:04.000 It was like a coup.

00:44:06.000 There were just so many people that would come in and marry an Osage tribe member. 0.89

00:44:11.000 And then murder them just to get their head rights. 0.96

00:44:13.000 It's nuts. 1.00

00:44:14.000 Was it mostly chicks murdering dudes? 0.99

00:44:17.000 No, it was everything. 0.99

00:44:18.000 They poisoned them a lot.

00:44:20.000 There's a lot of poisoning.

00:44:22.000 What is this, Jamie?

00:44:24.000 This book was this option into the new Martin Scorsese. 1.00

00:44:27.000 No shit! 1.00

00:44:28.000 What?! 1.00

00:44:29.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:44:30.000 You just did that. 1.00

00:44:31.000 You just did that on the Joe Rogan podcast.

00:44:34.000 I think it's an old book.

00:44:37.000 I think it's a pretty old book.

00:44:40.000 I literally picked it up at my parents' house when I was in quarantine.

00:44:44.000 Martin Scorsese, De Niro, and DiCaprio.

00:44:47.000 It was that or Lord of the Flies?

00:44:49.000 I'm going to say bam.

00:44:50.000 Titties.

00:44:52.000 That's amazing.

00:44:55.000 I really got into a big, long stretch of being fascinated with Native American history from a book somebody recommended to me called Empire of the Summer Moon about the Comanche.

00:45:06.000 And it's really like why Texas is the way Texas is. 0.98

00:45:12.000 Texas is the way Texas is, mostly, because they fought off the fucking Comanches. 0.98

00:45:17.000 Yeah, the people that had to go... 1.00

00:45:19.000 Mexico was so sneaky. 0.98

00:45:21.000 Mexico was telling white people to move to Texas. 0.94

00:45:25.000 They're like, hey, my friend, it's a good place.

00:45:28.000 They tricked these people into moving into Texas because it was a buffer between them and the Comanche. 1.00

00:45:34.000 The Comanche were the fucking wildest, most ruthless band of Indians and the most successful out of all the West. 1.00

00:45:43.000 It took hundreds of years to conquer them. 0.99

00:45:45.000 They're the reason why people didn't make it all the way to California sooner. 0.99

00:45:48.000 When they would go through the plains, the Comanches would fuck them up. 1.00

00:45:52.000 That book is fascinating. 0.99

00:45:55.000 It changed my perspective of what happened in the West.

00:45:59.000 You realize that there were some people that came over here from somewhere in the neighborhood of between 11,000 and 5,000 BC. They made it across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia into America.

00:46:12.000 They were basically the same kind of people that lived in Siberia.

00:46:16.000 And they were Stone Age when they got here.

00:46:18.000 They weren't even on horseback.

00:46:20.000 And they lived that way for thousands and thousands and thousands of years exactly the same way.

00:46:27.000 And it wasn't until the 1600s they started riding horses.

00:46:30.000 Wow. 1.00

00:46:30.000 And then they started dominating motherfuckers. 1.00

00:46:32.000 Wow. 1.00

00:46:32.000 It was like this giant shift in who they were. 1.00

00:46:35.000 Before they were like really unsuccessful in war.

00:46:37.000 They had no history.

00:46:39.000 They had no songs.

00:46:40.000 They had no stories.

00:46:41.000 Very little artwork.

00:46:42.000 All they did is like eat rats and squirrels and whatever they could kill and barely scratched by and stayed alive.

00:46:48.000 But they figured out how to ride horses first.

00:46:51.000 They figured out how to control horses better, and they figured out how to steal other people's horses because life was so hard.

00:46:58.000 It was so scratch and clawed that they were ruthless. 0.99

00:47:00.000 So once they got horses, they were just these wild little scrappy motherfuckers who would run these horses around and kill everybody. 1.00

00:47:08.000 And they figured out how to shoot off horses, and the white people didn't know how to do that yet. 0.99

00:47:11.000 The white people would get off the horses and go, Let's line up. 0.99

00:47:15.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:47:16.000 We gotta get up.

00:47:17.000 You stand there, and then I'm three.

00:47:19.000 They were shooting like an arrow a second.

00:47:21.000 They were like, bing, [...] 0.72

00:47:37.000 It was all during that time.

00:47:39.000 The Texas Rangers were the first to incorporate the revolver against the Comanche. 0.99

00:47:44.000 The Texas Rangers became the Texas Rangers because of this fucking unbelievably ruthless tribe of Indians that dominated the area. 1.00

00:47:52.000 So these dudes, instead of being like regular soldiers, adopted the way of the Comanche. 1.00

00:47:57.000 They wore buckskin clothes.

00:47:58.000 They slept without fires.

00:48:01.000 The Texas Rangers.

00:48:01.000 Yes.

00:48:02.000 They were fucking savages. 1.00

00:48:03.000 They out-savaged the Comanches. 1.00

00:48:05.000 A lot of the FBI agents that were commissioned to find the killers in the Osage murders, they were ex-Texas Rangers.

00:48:13.000 Plus, it's an amazing Chuck Norris TV show.

00:48:16.000 What the heck?

00:48:17.000 What? 0.95

00:48:18.000 Lonesome Dove?

00:48:18.000 Come on!

00:48:19.000 You ever get into Lonesome Dove?

00:48:21.000 No, I've never gotten into Lonesome Dove.

00:48:23.000 It's just an incredible book.

00:48:25.000 I mean, about two retired Texas Rangers, but it's just like a classic Western novel.

00:48:30.000 I actually have it on audiobook.

00:48:32.000 I just haven't gotten around to it.

00:48:34.000 I will, once I've watched all the Texas Rangers with Chuck Norris again.

00:48:39.000 Wait, do we have any Deadwood fans in the house here?

00:48:41.000 Anybody?

00:48:42.000 Deadwood bothered me because they swore so much.

00:48:45.000 They swore so much.

00:48:45.000 I was like, that's not real.

00:48:47.000 Oh, no.

00:48:48.000 That's not how they talk back then.

00:48:49.000 It's got a theatrical element.

00:48:51.000 It's a little like Shakespearean in a way, but...

00:48:53.000 Yeah, but it was...

00:48:54.000 Oh, thank you.

00:48:55.000 Thanks for looking out.

00:48:55.000 It made me just checking in.

00:48:56.000 I love you.

00:48:57.000 Thanks.

00:48:57.000 I'm supposed to drink slowly.

00:49:00.000 You'll be fine.

00:49:01.000 It's just your daddy.

00:49:02.000 I'm going to drink in a month.

00:49:03.000 Trust me.

00:49:04.000 He's my good friend.

00:49:05.000 I'm your friend, too. 1.00

00:49:05.000 Because we're on the Joe Rogan podcast and I don't want to be a fucking dickhead. 1.00

00:49:09.000 Listen, you're not going to be. 0.99

00:49:10.000 But don't hinder yourself either.

00:49:12.000 Well, I haven't drank in a month.

00:49:13.000 I'm sensitive.

00:49:14.000 You look fine.

00:49:15.000 Everything's going great.

00:49:17.000 Oh, God.

00:49:19.000 Everything's fine.

00:49:20.000 She's back.

00:49:21.000 Don't worry.

00:49:22.000 Are you not drinking on purpose?

00:49:23.000 Just give yourself a little cleanse?

00:49:24.000 No, I did my Saraset therapy.

00:49:25.000 And this is like my months up.

00:49:28.000 I can start living again.

00:49:30.000 But my brain's in a good place.

00:49:32.000 No life without alcohol.

00:49:34.000 This is good alcohol.

00:49:35.000 Let me tell you, it's been really hard not to drink this month.

00:49:38.000 I'm sure.

00:49:39.000 Let's be quite clear.

00:49:40.000 Yeah.

00:49:41.000 Well, they said because of coronavirus, alcohol consumption was up.

00:49:44.000 And then because of these riots and all this, I'm sure it's up again another notch.

00:49:48.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:49:49.000 The looting and the riots and people breaking into people's homes and shit. 0.99

00:49:53.000 But yeah, vulnerable people just slammed every stop of the way. 0.99

00:49:58.000 Well, we got to get through this as a race, I think, having a big moment.

00:50:02.000 Like, if we need a correction, we definitely need a correction.

00:50:05.000 We still do.

00:50:06.000 We need so many corrections, right?

00:50:08.000 We need a correction in terms of our thought on war, our thought on international conflict, the way we treat each other.

00:50:15.000 We need corrections on all that, but it takes like a big event sometimes.

00:50:18.000 This is it?

00:50:19.000 Yeah.

00:50:20.000 I mean, A complete restructuring of how we view each other.

00:50:24.000 But you also have to be careful of bad players.

00:50:27.000 There's a lot of bad actors in these things.

00:50:29.000 No, that's the scary part.

00:50:31.000 They want to take advantage of people, and they want people to comply with their ideology, and they try to push things and say, if you don't go along with this, we know where you stand, we know where you are, you're on the other side.

00:50:41.000 You get forced into some weird compliance.

00:50:44.000 You've got to be real careful about that because, again, it's sort of the same thing you see with bad cops.

00:50:48.000 When people have power over people, even if it's just psychic power, when people have power over people, they abuse it.

00:50:54.000 Well, having a revolution after revolution, you look at the French Revolution or something like that, you know, they tear it down in the name of liberty and then they're just... 0.69

00:51:02.000 Killing people left and right.

00:51:03.000 So it's, you know, there's a pattern that we can examine.

00:51:06.000 But I think it's important to not, you know, obviously these events are catalyzing, but what we need to take from the event is that we don't need an event.

00:51:16.000 We have to integrate this stuff.

00:51:17.000 Well, I think we need an event, like what we had, along with accountability.

00:51:22.000 And this is the strange thing about the culture we're living in.

00:51:24.000 A 17-year-old girl was there when George Floyd died.

00:51:29.000 So a 17-year-old girl's cell phone camera changed the world.

00:51:33.000 That's real.

00:51:34.000 So this poor little girl has to deal with, imagine being a 17-year-old black girl watching a man get a knee put on his chest while he's asking, please let me up, please I can't breathe. 1.00

00:51:45.000 And you know that guy died and you filmed it and your video gets uploaded and the world just explodes. 0.98

00:51:51.000 There are fucking, there's protests in Tokyo. 0.99

00:51:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:51:56.000 Protesting Berlin. 0.99

00:51:57.000 People are all over the world protesting New Zealand.

00:52:02.000 Our friend Stylebender was in one.

00:52:04.000 In New Zealand.

00:52:05.000 On the other side of the planet Earth.

00:52:06.000 People aren't asleep anymore.

00:52:08.000 Not asleep anymore.

00:52:08.000 Well, I mean, some people, yeah.

00:52:10.000 But she had a great response, too.

00:52:12.000 Did you see that?

00:52:13.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.000 Because people came after her and said, why didn't you do more in that moment?

00:52:16.000 I didn't know that.

00:52:17.000 And she had a really cogent and wonderful response about...

00:52:20.000 You know, just contextualizing it.

00:52:22.000 Listen, man, people just, there's too many people.

00:52:25.000 If you say, people say this or people say that, people tell you to eat your foot.

00:52:28.000 You know, they'll tell you.

00:52:29.000 You have to eat your foot if you want to be on this gang. 1.00

00:52:31.000 People are crazy. 0.99

00:52:33.000 The Trump thing with the drinking bleach or whatever, people did that. 0.99

00:52:37.000 No, no, they didn't. 1.00

00:52:40.000 Two morons drank the wrong form of hydrochloroquine that is actually a pond cleaner. 1.00

00:52:46.000 It's for fucking koi ponds. 1.00

00:52:48.000 These dipshits had it in their garage and they're like, this is it, this is chloroquine. 1.00

00:52:51.000 Did they die? 1.00

00:52:53.000 One guy died.

00:52:53.000 And there's a problem.

00:52:55.000 One guy looks great.

00:52:56.000 Sorry.

00:52:57.000 Put your tinfoil hat on.

00:52:58.000 That's not funny.

00:53:00.000 Here's the problem.

00:53:01.000 They were big-time Democrats.

00:53:04.000 That's why it doesn't make sense.

00:53:05.000 And one of them was a Democrat candidate contributor, I believe.

00:53:09.000 Make sure that's right.

00:53:10.000 I don't want to get sued.

00:53:11.000 And people were like, wait, you guys are just...

00:53:14.000 You know, you're not supposed to do that.

00:53:16.000 Like, you just think you magically had this stuff laying around. 0.99

00:53:18.000 Yeah, how dumb, though? 0.98

00:53:20.000 But I wasn't talking about the hydroxychloroquine. 0.98

00:53:21.000 The problem is it's just a random thing where it sounds the same and it's hydroxychloroquine versus some other kind of chloroquine.

00:53:29.000 You sure there wasn't some, like, agenda here?

00:53:31.000 That just seems like...

00:53:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:53:33.000 I don't want to...

00:53:34.000 I'm getting confused, though.

00:53:34.000 It could be.

00:53:35.000 I don't want to disrespect the dead slash almost dead.

00:53:39.000 Right.

00:53:40.000 Yeah, it could be somebody killed somebody.

00:53:43.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:53:44.000 Lots of weird things happen.

00:53:46.000 I don't know what the truth is anymore.

00:53:48.000 I have no idea.

00:53:50.000 But why would a person who's like a staunch Democrat listen to anything that Trump has to say about taking a medication?

00:53:56.000 You'd be like... 1.00

00:53:57.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

00:53:58.000 I know nothing about that. 1.00

00:53:58.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

00:53:59.000 I'm taking heroin. 1.00

00:54:00.000 He's an idiot. 1.00

00:54:01.000 Sidebar. 1.00

00:54:02.000 A good friend of ours, per the Trump Bible photo, our friend said, Trump holds a Bible like a guitar player who doesn't know how to play guitar. 0.97

00:54:12.000 I said he held it like a dirty diaper. 0.99

00:54:16.000 I said it was like a dirty diaper.

00:54:17.000 Like, what do I do with this? 1.00

00:54:18.000 Get this fucking thing out of here. 1.00

00:54:20.000 It's fucking awful. 1.00

00:54:22.000 But what a stupid fucking... 1.00

00:54:24.000 He did that on purpose. 1.00

00:54:25.000 Like, he decided to go do this as a press, like, some sort of publicity... 1.00

00:54:31.000 Man, this propaganda shit is... 1.00

00:54:32.000 That's the dumbest publicity opportunity ever. 1.00

00:54:35.000 Do you know that one of the members of the military stepped down, a military advisor? 0.97

00:54:40.000 Who's the guy that stepped down?

00:54:41.000 There was a guy that stepped down today.

00:54:43.000 No, no, no.

00:54:43.000 Different guy.

00:54:44.000 Stepped down because of that stunt.

00:54:46.000 Because of that publicity stunt.

00:54:48.000 He stepped down because he said that the abusive use of force that they used to clear out that square so Trump could come in for that photo op.

00:54:55.000 He's like, I can't be a part of it.

00:54:56.000 Yes.

00:54:57.000 That's what we need.

00:54:58.000 That's what we need.

00:54:58.000 We need videos.

00:54:59.000 We need accountability.

00:55:00.000 And that video, whether he knows it or not, is evidence. 0.99

00:55:03.000 Because, look, we know there's a fucking protest there. 0.99

00:55:06.000 Did they all go away and shut up because you're awesome? 1.00

00:55:09.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:55:10.000 You did something. 0.99

00:55:11.000 You did something to people that were peacefully protesting.

00:55:14.000 And it's even scary that maybe he doesn't even know. 0.98

00:55:16.000 There was some shit that I tweeted today, too, where it's been proven that they used a certain type of tear gas that you're not supposed to use on people. 0.98

00:55:23.000 No, I didn't know that. 0.98

00:55:27.000 Here, I'll pull it up while Jamie's doing that.

00:55:30.000 To me, he's going to be like a folk legend, Donald Trump.

00:55:34.000 He's like the Paul Bunyan of narcissism.

00:55:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:38.000 It's so far beyond what is understandable from a human.

00:55:45.000 He's like a superhero of narcissism.

00:55:48.000 Does that make sense?

00:55:49.000 It makes perfect sense.

00:55:50.000 There's a guy who resigned.

00:55:51.000 He resigned today because of the way Trump cleared out that plaza.

00:55:57.000 I was reading it today on the Google News.

00:56:02.000 The gig.

00:56:04.000 These videos are there, right?

00:56:07.000 You can't do that to people.

00:56:08.000 And why are they doing that to people?

00:56:09.000 They're doing that to people because they shouldn't be cops.

00:56:12.000 Okay, I have a question.

00:56:14.000 No.

00:56:15.000 No, no, no.

00:56:16.000 It happened just today.

00:56:17.000 Military advisor resigns.

00:56:19.000 Right there.

00:56:19.000 Photo op.

00:56:20.000 Right there.

00:56:20.000 No, no.

00:56:21.000 Above that.

00:56:22.000 Two days ago.

00:56:24.000 That's two days ago, though.

00:56:25.000 That's it though, Jamie.

00:56:26.000 I know, but this isn't...

00:56:27.000 He didn't resign.

00:56:29.000 Okay, in my Google News Feed, it showed up today.

00:56:32.000 For whatever reason.

00:56:33.000 Sometimes you get a Google News Feed story from like seven months ago.

00:56:35.000 James Miller resigns from Pentagon Slams.

00:56:36.000 But go back to that article.

00:56:38.000 Why did you...

00:56:38.000 Because it's doing a pop-up thing on it.

00:56:40.000 Oh, you can't get out of there?

00:56:41.000 Trying to get a better one.

00:56:44.000 Jamie!

00:56:45.000 Jamie!

00:56:45.000 Jamie did mention you guys were talking about a drum set.

00:56:47.000 I don't know if he said that to you.

00:56:49.000 Right when we get here, Ben's like, you should have a drum set.

00:56:53.000 He said, why don't you have a drum set?

00:56:56.000 I'm like, why would I have a drum set?

00:56:57.000 And he was like, people want to play the drums.

00:57:00.000 He's like, what if Jamie wants to play the drums?

00:57:02.000 People want to play the drums?

00:57:04.000 Look, I made it clear of my intentions.

00:57:05.000 I'm like, if Jamie wanted to play the drums, he would just get a drum set and bring it here.

00:57:10.000 So really, it's on you, Jamie.

00:57:20.000 This is it.

00:57:22.000 So James Miller Jr. who served as the U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for policy from 2012 to 2014 recalled that he swore an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and to bear truth and faith.

00:57:35.000 An allegiance to the same, similar to what the defense secretary had done before he took office on Monday, June 1st, 2020. I believe you violated that oath, Miller wrote to Esper.

00:57:46.000 Miller's reasoning centered on President Donald J. Trump's visit Monday to St. John's Church in Washington, D.C., where police cleared peaceful protesters with tear gas.

00:57:56.000 So he could pose with a Bible for photographs. 0.98

00:58:00.000 That defines 2020, that this was an idea that was not only just throwing up the flagpole, but they're like, fuck yeah, let's do it. 0.86

00:58:08.000 Wait, I'm sorry, I feel really dumb right now, but what was the, like, was there like a quote under the Bible? 0.92

00:58:12.000 Like, was it just him or the Bible, or did he have something to say?

00:58:14.000 Nothing to say?

00:58:15.000 He didn't say anything.

00:58:16.000 That was it.

00:58:16.000 This is what happened.

00:58:17.000 I don't get it.

00:58:18.000 There's a lot going on.

00:58:20.000 One of the things that's going on is that they lit this church on fire, okay?

00:58:23.000 And another thing that's going on is that someone posted that they lit the church on fire, and then CNN's Brian Stelter, is that how do you say his name?

00:58:31.000 I don't know how to say Stelter.

00:58:32.000 This is one of the fellows on CNN, this adorable fellow on CNN, was tweeting that there's no fire.

00:58:38.000 There's no evidence, there's no story that there's a fire.

00:58:40.000 This is what I'm talking about.

00:58:41.000 And then the video comes out of the fire, and then he deletes all those tweets.

00:58:44.000 So it's Trump...

00:58:48.000 It's also like a jab at CNN. Like, see, you fucking idiots. 1.00

00:58:51.000 You are fake news. 1.00

00:58:52.000 You said there's no fire.

00:58:54.000 This place burnt down, and I'm going to go stand in front of it, and I'm going to hold up a Bible.

00:58:58.000 Yeah, and that's what he's fighting about. 0.99

00:59:00.000 There's a lot of ego shit going on with that. 0.98

00:59:02.000 That's why he decided to stand in front of that church holding that Bible. 0.98

00:59:05.000 It was also that he's in a dogfight right now when it comes to his constituents, when it comes to the idea of a re-election, when it comes to the fact that everything keeps falling apart.

00:59:16.000 He's had the worst set of circumstances, whether he brought it on or not.

00:59:20.000 COVID, George Floyd, the fires, the riots.

00:59:24.000 He couldn't have predicted any of this, the looting.

00:59:26.000 It's madness, right?

00:59:30.000 Somebody's got to love me.

00:59:31.000 Jesus!

00:59:33.000 We're with Jesus!

00:59:34.000 This is where we're at.

00:59:36.000 This is where we're at. 1.00

00:59:37.000 Sinking shit. 1.00

00:59:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:39.000 What you said about someone playing a musical instrument?

00:59:44.000 Is that what you said?

00:59:44.000 That it looked like someone...

00:59:45.000 Who doesn't know how to play guitar is holding a guitar.

00:59:48.000 Pool is another example of that. 1.00

00:59:50.000 Like when you see a guy in a movie that's supposed to know how to play pool and you see him like fucking hold the pool stick all stupid. 1.00

00:59:55.000 That's not how it goes. 1.00

00:59:56.000 That's with fake violinists when people play fake violin.

00:59:58.000 What's that?

00:59:58.000 How'd I look with the pool stick?

00:59:59.000 You look good.

01:00:00.000 It's alright.

01:00:01.000 It's alright.

01:00:01.000 We were playing pool earlier.

01:00:02.000 Joe schooled us.

01:00:03.000 He put on the glove for the record.

01:00:05.000 He wore the glove.

01:00:06.000 Hold the book.

01:00:07.000 Like a guy who reads books.

01:00:10.000 Then you can open it.

01:00:11.000 Hold on while I hold this blade.

01:00:14.000 Cynical theories.

01:00:16.000 This is how you hold the book.

01:00:18.000 Let him do the book thing.

01:00:20.000 But if I'm holding the book like this...

01:00:22.000 It was upside down.

01:00:26.000 That's it!

01:00:27.000 Can someone...

01:00:28.000 I have definitely not re-read this book post.

01:00:33.000 Book please!

01:00:46.000 This is the Bible.

01:00:47.000 It will never be ever, ever forgotten.

01:00:50.000 It's written all over the world in many, many ways.

01:00:53.000 An amazing, amazing, amazing book.

01:00:56.000 So special, so important.

01:00:57.000 The thing about the whole narcissism thing is it's terrifying.

01:01:00.000 I'm terrified of that man. 0.99

01:01:02.000 He scares the fuck out of me. 1.00

01:01:03.000 I want to shave his head and give him mushrooms. 1.00

01:01:05.000 That's what I want to do. 0.99

01:01:06.000 Do it.

01:01:06.000 I dare you.

01:01:07.000 I wish I could.

01:01:07.000 You probably can.

01:01:08.000 I wish you would listen.

01:01:08.000 You're king of Spotify now.

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:10.000 I'm a jester.

01:01:11.000 Don't rule Spotify.

01:01:12.000 I'm just a minor jester.

01:01:14.000 I'm second to Bill Simmons over there, I think.

01:01:16.000 There's no worries.

01:01:18.000 Just give him mushrooms. 0.99

01:01:19.000 Just one fucking really good solid dose. 0.99

01:01:21.000 Is that your preferred psychedelic? 0.99

01:01:23.000 It's a good one.

01:01:25.000 My preferred one is probably marijuana.

01:01:28.000 I think marijuana is a psychedelic.

01:01:29.000 I just think it's a daily-use psychedelic.

01:01:32.000 If you did mushrooms every day, you can't talk to anybody. 0.99

01:01:35.000 You'd be useless. 0.99

01:01:36.000 False. 1.00

01:01:37.000 I beg to differ.

01:01:39.000 Micro-dose.

01:01:41.000 I'm talking about getting blitzed.

01:01:43.000 You have a big chest of mushrooms?

01:01:44.000 No, I don't.

01:01:45.000 I have some, no.

01:01:46.000 Woo! 0.99

01:01:47.000 What are we doing later?

01:01:48.000 Did I tell you guys about when I... So I was quarantined with my parents for a month.

01:01:52.000 Holla.

01:01:53.000 So right after I saw you, Jill, when I was here last with Gary, like two days later I went on tour.

01:01:58.000 Tour got canceled.

01:01:59.000 I was in New York.

01:02:01.000 Drove down to my parents' house and then things were getting weird and got weirder and weirder.

01:02:05.000 And then I was there for a month with my parents.

01:02:07.000 And I messed up big time because I took acid one day when I was there.

01:02:13.000 Wow.

01:02:13.000 You mean you made the right choice?

01:02:15.000 No, I thought they were going to be gone.

01:02:17.000 And then I had a friend with me.

01:02:19.000 My friend Jose was there, one of my buds from childhood.

01:02:23.000 Did Jose bring the acid?

01:02:24.000 No, I brought the acid.

01:02:25.000 And I was originally like, let's take a whole tab.

01:02:29.000 And he's like, let's go half.

01:02:30.000 And honest to God.

01:02:31.000 Good move, Jose.

01:02:33.000 Powerful Jose.

01:02:34.000 Well, we both cut it in half.

01:02:36.000 We both took a tab.

01:02:37.000 And then like 15 minutes later, my mom walked in the door. 1.00

01:02:40.000 I'm 35 years old.

01:02:41.000 And then I was like...

01:02:47.000 And I was like, oh, no, no, no. 1.00

01:02:48.000 Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. 1.00

01:02:49.000 Because there's what we got all day. 1.00

01:02:51.000 And she's like, my mom calls me Louis.

01:02:54.000 God bless her. 1.00

01:02:54.000 I love my mom so much. 1.00

01:02:55.000 She's like, she calls me Lumi.

01:02:56.000 Lumi, what are you doing?

01:02:57.000 And I was like, oh, I got to tell her.

01:03:01.000 And so I... But it should be noted, not the first time you've been on Psychedelics, myself included, in front of your mom.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:08.000 Well, this is different.

01:03:10.000 She... 1.00

01:03:11.000 This is...

01:03:12.000 I respect my parents so much.

01:03:14.000 And I don't want to get too personal, but one of my uncles OD'd on PCP when my mom was a kid.

01:03:20.000 So she has like a... 0.99

01:03:22.000 She's got a thing.

01:03:23.000 Mushrooms to her are fine because they're like from the earth.

01:03:26.000 Yeah.

01:03:26.000 So she got really mad at me.

01:03:29.000 Because someone gave it to me.

01:03:31.000 Someone I trust.

01:03:31.000 But she was like...

01:03:33.000 She was... 0.97

01:03:36.000 Terrified of me.

01:03:37.000 And I was, too.

01:03:38.000 Of you?

01:03:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:40.000 Because...

01:03:40.000 She got into that Manson propaganda, huh?

01:03:41.000 I mean, I was white as a sheet.

01:03:43.000 And I did not look good.

01:03:45.000 And it was hardcore tripping.

01:03:48.000 Like, it wasn't a little bit.

01:03:49.000 I went deep.

01:03:50.000 But I was also so aware that my mom was terrified. 0.96

01:03:53.000 Like, I went to check on her when I was, like, really tripping balls. 0.96

01:03:56.000 Hmm.

01:03:56.000 And she was curled up on her bed with the dogs and she was looking at me and I looked at her and I was like, I'm gonna go!

01:04:04.000 And I just went back to my room and then I had like the giggle part where I just couldn't stop laughing.

01:04:11.000 But at one point I do want to share this and I might get in trouble. 0.99

01:04:13.000 No, fuck it. 1.00

01:04:16.000 Jose... 1.00

01:04:18.000 I was trying to get some sense of normalcy, and I was trying to eat food, and I put on Planet Earth, which was very healing at that time, of just being in a total place.

01:04:29.000 And Jose needed to get sick.

01:04:32.000 And at that same time...

01:04:34.000 Not so powerful, Jose.

01:04:36.000 At the same time, I was watching...

01:04:38.000 I swear to God, I swear to God, true story.

01:04:41.000 Like, Jose is in the bathroom, like...

01:04:45.000 At that same moment, there were grizzly bears going, and I was just like, is anybody watching this?

01:04:53.000 That's me!

01:04:53.000 And it was just the best moment ever.

01:04:55.000 I felt so bad.

01:04:57.000 Oh my god.

01:04:58.000 You know who took the best grizzly bear footage ever? 0.90

01:05:00.000 That Timothy Treadwell guy, that crazy guy.

01:05:04.000 Was that the grizzly man thing?

01:05:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:06.000 That guy took the best grizzly footage.

01:05:09.000 He paid the price. 1.00

01:05:09.000 Well, he fucked up, for sure. 1.00

01:05:11.000 But along with... 1.00

01:05:13.000 He gave us something.

01:05:14.000 I mean, this is going to be a real cynical take on this.

01:05:17.000 But you've got to understand, this is all coming from love.

01:05:20.000 That guy...

01:05:22.000 Even though he died getting killed by Grizzlies in a hilarious, the best unintentionally hilarious documentary ever.

01:05:30.000 Come on.

01:05:31.000 Grizzly Man is so funny.

01:05:33.000 I'm scared to watch that.

01:05:33.000 I can't watch it.

01:05:35.000 I can't watch it.

01:05:35.000 They don't play it for you.

01:05:36.000 They don't play it for you.

01:05:37.000 There's no tape.

01:05:38.000 Really?

01:05:39.000 No, no, they don't play it.

01:05:40.000 Well, there is a tape.

01:05:40.000 No, no, no, no.

01:05:41.000 Werner Herzog got the tape and he destroyed it.

01:05:43.000 He did not want it to be out there for it to be murder porn for people.

01:05:48.000 He said it was horrible. 0.99

01:05:50.000 And Werner Herzog, you know, I mean, he knows the fuck he's doing. 0.96

01:05:53.000 He's made some of the most amazing documentaries of all time, right? 0.96

01:05:56.000 Agreed.

01:05:56.000 But that, I guarantee you, he made that thing funny on purpose.

01:06:00.000 There's no way he didn't.

01:06:01.000 The timing in it is so good.

01:06:03.000 There's a sheriff.

01:06:04.000 There's a sheriff at one point in time after the guy dies. 0.99

01:06:06.000 The sheriff, first of all, looks like a sheriff in a fucking Quentin Tarantino movie, right? 0.98

01:06:10.000 He just looks like he's total, total Alaska sheriff. 1.00

01:06:13.000 He looks right in the camera and goes, I thought he was retarded! 1.00

01:06:16.000 And he's like, what? 0.70

01:06:18.000 When they're talking about picking garbage bags of this guy off of the shore and seeing the big bear feasting on his ribcage.

01:06:27.000 They show that?

01:06:27.000 No, no, no.

01:06:28.000 They talk about it.

01:06:29.000 He talks about how he flew over in his plane and noticed the ribs poking out and saw the bear rummaging in his chest cavity.

01:06:36.000 It is a crazy documentary.

01:06:39.000 I thought that they played as sound.

01:06:41.000 No, no, no.

01:06:41.000 There's no sound.

01:06:42.000 Okay.

01:06:42.000 There's a version of it online, but it's fake.

01:06:44.000 I thought that too.

01:06:45.000 I thought that too.

01:06:45.000 That's why I never watched it.

01:06:47.000 You gotta trust me.

01:06:47.000 I've seen it nine times.

01:06:48.000 Jesus!

01:06:49.000 I'm not exaggerating.

01:06:50.000 That and Zoolander?

01:06:51.000 It might be like 13 times.

01:06:52.000 No, Texas Ranger.

01:06:53.000 We got Norris.

01:06:54.000 Then we hit the Grizzly Man.

01:06:56.000 There's time.

01:06:56.000 We're gonna go back for Zoolander.

01:06:58.000 But really, here's the thing.

01:07:00.000 There's something in this movie about acceptance.

01:07:03.000 There's something about tolerance. 0.72

01:07:08.000 He was gay. 0.91

01:07:09.000 Oh. 0.99

01:07:10.000 And I'm 99,000% positive that he's gay.

01:07:14.000 But he was pretending he wasn't.

01:07:16.000 So this guy's talking like this, and he's walking through the woods going, I wish I had a girlfriend, but I don't.

01:07:23.000 Girls just don't like me, I don't know why. 1.00

01:07:25.000 Maybe because you live with monsters in a house made out of cloth.

01:07:28.000 Is this like a Joe Exotica parody kind of thing we're doing here?

01:07:31.000 No, he's got like, he's like this guy that's like, he's got a bandana on.

01:07:36.000 It's like, I'm out of here protecting these bears.

01:07:38.000 These bears didn't even know he was alive. 0.98

01:07:40.000 They didn't give a fuck about him. 0.82

01:07:41.000 Not only that, like the wildlife management of Alaska is fantastic. 0.93

01:07:47.000 Like they know exactly how many bears they are.

01:07:49.000 They got it all covered.

01:07:50.000 You know, I just watched the Joe Exotic thing and in regards to that, there's like this weird megalomania with like, Convincing yourself that you have this control over these wild beasts. 0.99

01:08:01.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.90

01:08:03.000 It's very very similar. 0.99

01:08:04.000 I had these moments where it was really like really first of all they're all bunch of narcissists and they're crazy but I felt really sad for Joe Exotic because it was like what would have happened if maybe he were truly accepted For who he was when he was a kid and loved by his father,

01:08:20.000 like would he have gone to these extremes with his life? 0.98

01:08:22.000 No, but then we wouldn't have enjoyed that fucking amazing show. 0.97

01:08:25.000 This is my whole point about Grizzly Man. 1.00

01:08:28.000 Even though that guy lived this fucked up- It's about your entertainment! 0.99

01:08:31.000 Even though this guy lived this fucked up tortured life, ultimately what was created was amazing and it was entertaining for millions of people. 0.99

01:08:38.000 It gave millions of people a great feeling watching Grizzly Man and watching Joe Exotic. 0.98

01:08:44.000 We said about art down the line.

01:08:46.000 Yes! 1.00

01:08:47.000 Beethoven, that was a fucked up dude. 1.00

01:08:49.000 But we're still listening to his shit. 1.00

01:08:50.000 But this guy's life was like an art project. 1.00

01:08:53.000 This Timothy Treadwell's life was like an art project.

01:08:56.000 He's literally holding a camcorder, walking through this bear corridor where these enormous grizzly bears are.

01:09:02.000 And he's like, I wish I could find a girlfriend, but I can't. 0.60

01:09:05.000 If I was gay, it would be easy. 0.58

01:09:06.000 This is what he says. 0.96

01:09:07.000 I just go to a rest stop.

01:09:08.000 He said that.

01:09:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:10.000 But I'm not gay, so...

01:09:12.000 He's like, who?

01:09:12.000 Bro.

01:09:13.000 Gay? 0.85

01:09:14.000 That guy needed mushrooms, but then we wouldn't have gotten Grizzly Man. 0.99

01:09:17.000 Joe, is this how we heal the world?

01:09:19.000 We need to do extreme psychedelic dispensing.

01:09:23.000 It sounds preposterous, but everything I say sounds preposterous, so it's okay.

01:09:27.000 I'm a preposterous person.

01:09:28.000 Sort of true.

01:09:29.000 But I believe that if mushrooms were decriminalized and people were allowed to use them, and in fact, decriminalized is probably better.

01:09:37.000 You know why?

01:09:38.000 Because I don't think anybody should sell mushrooms.

01:09:41.000 Because I think mushrooms are so sacred, you should never profit off of them.

01:09:44.000 I agree.

01:09:44.000 I really do.

01:09:45.000 I agree.

01:09:46.000 I think decriminalizing is enough, just so that no one can ever bring, but you can't sell it.

01:09:50.000 Just give it away to people, or if you're selling it, you should sell it for just Just enough to take care of the soil and feed.

01:10:01.000 You should make your money some other way.

01:10:03.000 And I think that for you, for people.

01:10:05.000 I mean, there's an amazing business that could be had through selling mushrooms.

01:10:08.000 I'm not opposed to it.

01:10:10.000 Look, I'll flip-flop on this back and forth.

01:10:12.000 But I think if I was giving someone advice, if I said, could you make it without doing that?

01:10:17.000 Could you make it without selling it?

01:10:18.000 I would say, okay, don't sell it.

01:10:20.000 Just give it away.

01:10:21.000 Just give it away and make deals with people.

01:10:24.000 If they want to give you tomatoes that they grew, take that and give them mushrooms.

01:10:27.000 It doesn't seem like something that should be tainted by the darkness of the human soul.

01:10:36.000 I feel like there's power in money, just like there's power in power.

01:10:42.000 It's the same thing.

01:10:43.000 Wanting to sell more.

01:10:44.000 Are you sure you don't need any mushrooms, Ben?

01:10:46.000 You don't want that energy.

01:10:48.000 You never want anybody pushing it on you.

01:10:51.000 You should do mushrooms because it's calling you.

01:10:54.000 I don't think anybody should ever...

01:10:56.000 It just makes me think about music because everything makes me think about music usually.

01:10:59.000 But when you're talking about this...

01:11:01.000 Well, how do we manage the sale of this, the presence in our society?

01:11:05.000 We need it.

01:11:06.000 We're going to do it anyway, always.

01:11:07.000 Human behavior, boom.

01:11:09.000 There's a price tag. 1.00

01:11:10.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:11:11.000 Things are getting weird, and it's a constant conversation. 1.00

01:11:13.000 I think you just have ethical people that work with you, so you don't have to think about that shit. 0.99

01:11:16.000 Just think about your art. 0.99

01:11:18.000 But it's inescapable, because it's in the system, right?

01:11:21.000 And the system is going to react to it, respond to it.

01:11:24.000 Consumers are going to...

01:11:26.000 React in their way.

01:11:27.000 And if you can, I guess, keep yourself completely apart from consumer opinion, then you can, is that what you're saying?

01:11:33.000 Kind of like maintain a purity?

01:11:35.000 I don't think that's ever really possible.

01:11:37.000 It's not possible.

01:11:37.000 But I think you can have an ethic in your head, like you can have an operating strategy in your head.

01:11:43.000 You're going to avoid as much of that as possible and just sort of like, what does it take to be the best artist you could be? 0.99

01:11:51.000 The problem with that is sometimes it takes for you to be a fuck up. 0.99

01:11:54.000 Oh yeah. 0.99

01:11:55.000 I don't know if I buy that.

01:11:57.000 I don't know if I buy it either.

01:11:59.000 We don't have to buy it.

01:12:00.000 That's consumerism.

01:12:02.000 It's not for sale.

01:12:03.000 Here's the thing.

01:12:04.000 Some of my favorite artists, like I give this an example so many times, but I have to use it.

01:12:08.000 My great friend Joey Diaz.

01:12:10.000 He's one of my favorite people.

01:12:12.000 Love that dude.

01:12:12.000 I love him.

01:12:13.000 He's great.

01:12:14.000 Every time I'm with him, every time I perform with him, I work with him, every time I hang out with him, I always feel like I'm blessed.

01:12:21.000 Like, I'm not joking.

01:12:22.000 That's a magical thing.

01:12:23.000 It's so rare.

01:12:24.000 He's been my friend for I'll tear up.

01:12:26.000 He's been my friend for like 23 years.

01:12:28.000 But you don't get a Joey Diaz without pain.

01:12:32.000 It doesn't exist.

01:12:33.000 You can't have a kid who lives in a gated community, who has tutors to teach him how to play piano, and who's on the soccer team.

01:12:39.000 You don't get a Joey Diaz.

01:12:42.000 You know how Joey Diaz found his mother?

01:12:44.000 He was on acid, and she was dead, and he was 13. He found her when he was on acid.

01:12:50.000 I didn't know that.

01:12:51.000 She was dead on the kitchen floor when he was 13. Joey Diaz has gone through some shit. 1.00

01:12:57.000 And on the other end, he comes out this beautiful creation of the universe. 0.99

01:13:01.000 You don't get diamonds unless you have pressure.

01:13:05.000 I concur.

01:13:06.000 You need pressure.

01:13:06.000 But those are uncontrollable things.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:10.000 The things that are controllable, sorry.

01:13:11.000 I'm just saying, like, some artists, like, I will never be as funny as Joey Diaz.

01:13:16.000 It's literally not possible.

01:13:18.000 I don't think anybody's funnier than him.

01:13:20.000 I think he hits these moments that are funnier than any- I've seen comedy for- I've been a professional comedian for like 32 years.

01:13:28.000 Never seen anybody funnier.

01:13:29.000 I've seen them all.

01:13:30.000 I've seen Kinnison live.

01:13:31.000 I saw Bill Hicks live.

01:13:33.000 I've seen Chris Rock.

01:13:34.000 I've worked with Chappelle.

01:13:35.000 I've seen Chappelle live a hundred times.

01:13:38.000 I've worked with Pryor.

01:13:40.000 I had a chance to work with somebody.

01:13:42.000 Really?

01:13:42.000 Yes!

01:13:43.000 What's that story?

01:13:44.000 Late in his career when he was actually dying.

01:13:47.000 And he would go on stage.

01:13:49.000 They would carry him to the stage.

01:13:50.000 I went on after Pryor.

01:13:52.000 They would carry him to the stage?

01:13:52.000 Carry him to the stage.

01:13:53.000 My friend Chewy, who's an amazing musician, he used to be the doorman at the comedy store, he and this guy Dave would carry, who's Marilyn Martinez's husband, who's a hilarious comedian, would carry Richard Pryor to the chair, and they'd put him in the chair, and they would crank up the volume like this.

01:14:09.000 Like, shh!

01:14:11.000 Because he's so far gone.

01:14:14.000 That's what it was like.

01:14:15.000 That was a photo of him.

01:14:17.000 If you saw him, you saw me.

01:14:21.000 Because when he would go on stage, Mitzi would always put me on afterwards.

01:14:25.000 Because Mitzi knew it was basically an impossible task.

01:14:30.000 It was an impossible task, first of all, for some 27-year-old dipshit to go on after the greatest comedian of all time ever, right? 0.65

01:14:38.000 No matter what I did, I was failed.

01:14:41.000 But the fact that everybody got to see him when they knew he was rapidly deteriorating, it wasn't going to get better, and he just wanted to be out there with his fans, and people loved him so much.

01:14:52.000 And I would go on stage, and it was like I was at a funeral trying to tell jokes.

01:14:57.000 It was so bad.

01:14:58.000 It was so bad.

01:15:00.000 It felt so bad.

01:15:01.000 First of all, it felt bad because the first time I ever really understood what comedy was, I saw Live on the Sunset Strip in a movie theater.

01:15:08.000 My parents took me when I was like 15. And we were in the audience, and I remember looking around at all these people falling out of their chairs laughing.

01:15:15.000 And I remember I was laughing so hard.

01:15:16.000 I was like, how is this guy doing this by just talking?

01:15:19.000 Right.

01:15:19.000 How is he doing this?

01:15:21.000 So for me to be able to work with that guy, to do all these shows with that guy...

01:15:28.000 No one's funnier than Joey Diaz.

01:15:29.000 No one.

01:15:30.000 All these people I work with.

01:15:31.000 The greats.

01:15:32.000 I've seen them all.

01:15:33.000 Joey Diaz hits these highs.

01:15:36.000 There's a new vibration.

01:15:38.000 He pops through to some new level.

01:15:40.000 He might not be the best joke writer of all time.

01:15:43.000 He might not have the most clever thing to say that makes you go, wow. 0.98

01:15:48.000 But he hits you with some fucking punch lines that are harder than anybody's ever... 0.99

01:15:52.000 He's the Ernie Shavers of punch lines. 1.00

01:15:55.000 He just drops bombs on you. 1.00

01:15:56.000 You're like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:15:58.000 You know, I think that... 1.00

01:16:00.000 Who's Ernie Shavers?

01:16:01.000 Sorry.

01:16:01.000 Ernie Shavers was a very famous heavyweight boxer in the 1970s that was known for his punching power.

01:16:08.000 Sorry.

01:16:09.000 No, it's okay.

01:16:10.000 No, it's okay.

01:16:11.000 I'm glad you asked.

01:16:13.000 I did a Dennis Miller on you.

01:16:14.000 I brought up something.

01:16:15.000 Yeah, you did.

01:16:16.000 I totally did.

01:16:17.000 But for fight fans, they would know exactly what I'm talking about.

01:16:20.000 He's like the Francis Ngannou of stand-up comics.

01:16:22.000 That's a good way to put it.

01:16:24.000 Francis Ngannou is a top UFC contender.

01:16:26.000 That's more contemporary.

01:16:28.000 Also, you want to make a list?

01:16:29.000 Let's make a list.

01:16:31.000 Francis Ngannou is the single most powerful combat sport athlete I've ever seen.

01:16:38.000 Francis. 0.97

01:16:40.000 Pull up a photo of Francis, just so he gets an understanding of what the fuck he's writing down. 0.97

01:16:45.000 Francis Ngannou is absolutely the scariest heavyweight to ever compete in the UFC. I think he's 6'6", 260 pounds, freak athlete who grew up working in the sand mines. 0.97

01:17:00.000 He dug sand in Africa.

01:17:03.000 Come on.

01:17:04.000 Is it not contemporary?

01:17:05.000 Was he from Cameroon?

01:17:09.000 Oh, I spelled that wrong.

01:17:10.000 See, find out where he was from.

01:17:12.000 He's an amazing athlete.

01:17:14.000 Like, terrifying.

01:17:16.000 Yeah, Cameroon.

01:17:16.000 33, younger than us.

01:17:18.000 Terrifying athlete.

01:17:18.000 And he's younger than us.

01:17:20.000 I don't think that's correct.

01:17:22.000 Age, what is age?

01:17:24.000 What does it say?

01:17:25.000 What age does it say?

01:17:26.000 He's 33. Is that correct?

01:17:28.000 Stop shouting.

01:17:30.000 September 5th, S5. That's amazing, because I thought he was older than that.

01:17:34.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:17:36.000 He's fucking terrifying. 1.00

01:17:38.000 The thing about... 1.00

01:17:39.000 This is like a little backtrack.

01:17:41.000 You're talking about Diaz and suffering.

01:17:45.000 People that have had really intense things in their lives that they've overcome and grown from are the most incredible people on the planet.

01:17:54.000 100%.

01:17:55.000 And I have empathy for folks that aren't able to do that.

01:17:59.000 But the thing is, it's like when you have this capacity to grow from...

01:18:05.000 Horrible things.

01:18:06.000 You have the capacity for wisdom and also comedy and also trying to live a peaceful, beautiful life. 0.99

01:18:13.000 And the thing is, life is fucked up. 0.99

01:18:16.000 We can't control what's coming at us, but you can control how you fucking deal with it and your accountability. 0.99

01:18:22.000 And I am with you on the front of people that inspire me on that level, that have been through things that I can't imagine but have come out in this...

01:18:34.000 Beautiful way that they express themselves with inspiration and comedy and music and acting or whatever, artistic, but, you know, not even art.

01:18:45.000 American music comes out of that.

01:18:48.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:18:49.000 That's what that comes out of.

01:18:50.000 Yeah.

01:18:50.000 You know, that comes out of a cultural experience.

01:18:52.000 You ever listen to that old Robert Johnson shit? 1.00

01:18:55.000 Yeah, fuck yeah. 1.00

01:18:56.000 That's crazy, right? 1.00

01:18:57.000 It's incredible.

01:18:58.000 You listen to that and you go, wait a minute, when was this?

01:19:01.000 I think music, like comedy, they share this one thing.

01:19:06.000 You have to put the music or the comedy in the context of the time that it was created.

01:19:12.000 I'm a giant Lenny Bruce fan.

01:19:14.000 If you walk around this place, you see all these Lenny Bruce concert posters outside.

01:19:18.000 He was such a pioneer, too.

01:19:20.000 He was the.

01:19:21.000 He was the.

01:19:22.000 He's patient zero.

01:19:23.000 He's patient zero.

01:19:24.000 But if you listen to his stuff today, it might not be that funny.

01:19:27.000 Some of it's not that good in terms of how far things have gone.

01:19:31.000 If you watched Chappelle's latest special and then you try to watch Lenny Bruce, it'd be hard to watch Lenny Bruce.

01:19:36.000 But his timing and all that stuff, it's still there.

01:19:38.000 It's the context of it.

01:19:40.000 But for me, it's like, go back and listen to Robert Johnson and then just think, wait a minute, what year was this?

01:19:45.000 What year was this?

01:19:46.000 And what kind of music were people making?

01:19:49.000 This dude was just like this very free, haunting sound that Robert Johnson had.

01:19:55.000 I wish we could play it. 0.99

01:19:57.000 Jesus, I hope when we go to Spotify we can play some fucking music. 0.99

01:20:01.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:20:02.000 Just play some Robert Johnson.

01:20:04.000 Give them the shekels.

01:20:05.000 The great stuff.

01:20:07.000 Let them have the cash.

01:20:08.000 I just want to hear it.

01:20:09.000 I want to hear it.

01:20:10.000 I just don't want to get pulled.

01:20:11.000 He said shekels.

01:20:12.000 And it transcends time.

01:20:13.000 I have respect for my Jewish friends.

01:20:15.000 Thanks, brother.

01:20:18.000 Shekel.

01:20:19.000 It's a great name for money.

01:20:21.000 It is.

01:20:21.000 It sounds fun.

01:20:22.000 It feels good to say.

01:20:23.000 It sounds fun.

01:20:23.000 Give me them shekels, son.

01:20:25.000 Bad and schvitzing. 0.92

01:20:27.000 I'm all about the shekels. 1.00

01:20:28.000 Like, I'm all about the Benjamins.

01:20:30.000 That's okay.

01:20:30.000 Hey!

01:20:31.000 Come on, double duty.

01:20:32.000 I get it.

01:20:33.000 I get it.

01:20:37.000 That's a t-shirt.

01:20:39.000 I wonder how much Ben Franklin really did.

01:20:41.000 History is so interesting.

01:20:43.000 I was thinking about this today. 0.99

01:20:44.000 We need people to write shit down. 0.99

01:20:46.000 We have to trust that you're going to tell the truth. 1.00

01:20:48.000 And most people are full of shit. 1.00

01:20:50.000 So how does that work out? 1.00

01:20:53.000 Paul Revere never ran around going the British are coming. 0.96

01:20:57.000 Do you know that?

01:20:57.000 No, I did not know that.

01:20:59.000 I didn't know that either.

01:20:59.000 I found out two years ago.

01:21:01.000 Who told you the truth?

01:21:01.000 I was reading this whole story about what really happened, that Paul Revere wasn't really riding down the street with a horse saying the British are coming, the British are coming.

01:21:10.000 No, another dude did it and he was taking credit. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Son of a bitch. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Yeah, he was taking credit for it. 1.00

01:21:15.000 Yeah, the thing is, I said this earlier, I don't know what's real or true anymore.

01:21:20.000 Even when we have the age of cell phones and people take videos, right now we have someone saying, hey, this is a tennis ball.

01:21:29.000 Another person saying, oh, no, it's purple.

01:21:32.000 And you're like, what?

01:21:32.000 What could be both?

01:21:33.000 Like, there's no comparison.

01:21:34.000 Oh, like that dress?

01:21:35.000 That black and white dress?

01:21:36.000 No, the bad example.

01:21:37.000 Oh yeah, the laurel.

01:21:38.000 What was that thing?

01:21:40.000 The thing is, you know, back to Donald Trump, like, there's just...

01:21:46.000 A complete lack of information of like, is this like one person saying this thing, the other person saying this thing, and I'm watching a video and you're telling me it's not true.

01:21:56.000 But how is it not true?

01:21:57.000 Because I'm watching it.

01:21:58.000 Right. 0.95

01:21:58.000 I'm so fucking confused. 0.95

01:22:00.000 He's creating... 0.99

01:22:02.000 His own reality.

01:22:03.000 Well, he's not the only one.

01:22:05.000 There's a lot of people doing that.

01:22:06.000 100%.

01:22:06.000 He's playing a game, okay?

01:22:09.000 And the game has already been established. 1.00

01:22:10.000 That game is be full of shit if it supports your cause. 0.99

01:22:13.000 The left does it as well as the right. 1.00

01:22:14.000 It's a human issue.

01:22:16.000 It's a partisan human issue. 0.99

01:22:18.000 And he's particularly shitty at it. 0.96

01:22:21.000 Do you know who I love? 0.79

01:22:22.000 And I think he buys into it. 1.00

01:22:23.000 I think that's a requisite, too, is that he has to believe his own bullshit. 1.00

01:22:26.000 You've got to be able to say when you've fucked up. 1.00

01:22:29.000 But you can say that with power. 0.97

01:22:31.000 Why is that not a thing?

01:22:32.000 Why can't they do that?

01:22:34.000 They don't do it.

01:22:34.000 I just want to say it right now.

01:22:35.000 The Rock for president.

01:22:36.000 Step in.

01:22:37.000 I'd vote for The Rock.

01:22:38.000 I saw your Instagram.

01:22:39.000 Love him.

01:22:39.000 My brother, listen, you can do it.

01:22:41.000 I'll vote for you. 1.00

01:22:42.000 No one's going to fuck with you. 1.00

01:22:43.000 You are America, by the way. 1.00

01:22:45.000 Look at you.

01:22:45.000 Oh, man.

01:22:45.000 Look at you, you beautiful son of a bitch.

01:22:47.000 He's America. 1.00

01:22:47.000 I'm not familiar with your platform, but I will look into it. 1.00

01:22:49.000 I only met him in person two or three times, but he's so beautiful.

01:22:52.000 He's incredible.

01:22:52.000 He's so big.

01:22:53.000 Remember that movie?

01:22:54.000 He's enormous.

01:22:55.000 Oh, you were? 0.98

01:22:56.000 When I moved to LA, I was like a PA on this movie, just like, you know, completely brainless.

01:23:00.000 And he was in the movie and he came in.

01:23:02.000 What movie was it, Ben?

01:23:03.000 And he's a super nice guy.

01:23:07.000 Legitimately super nice guy.

01:23:09.000 Incredibly ambitious.

01:23:10.000 He's the American dream.

01:23:12.000 Came out from poverty.

01:23:13.000 He epitomizes hard work.

01:23:16.000 And he's got a heart.

01:23:17.000 He clearly is a nice guy.

01:23:18.000 And he's a real man.

01:23:19.000 He's not some soy boy.

01:23:21.000 He's not some...

01:23:22.000 Is he single?

01:23:23.000 I find that insensitive.

01:23:24.000 He should be.

01:23:26.000 I drank soy.

01:23:27.000 You should feel that.

01:23:28.000 You should feel the pain.

01:23:29.000 You should drink raw buffalo milk mixed with blood.

01:23:33.000 No need.

01:23:35.000 Like a Comanche. 0.99

01:23:36.000 You're lact-hearted? 0.93

01:23:37.000 No, you gotta get it right from the udder.

01:23:39.000 To all the lactose intolerant juice out there.

01:23:42.000 It's okay.

01:23:43.000 You can drink so you'll be alright.

01:23:44.000 Go easy on it, actually.

01:23:45.000 I don't drink it anymore.

01:23:46.000 I drink rice milk.

01:23:47.000 We gotta get you out there eating raw ducks.

01:23:49.000 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 You're gonna be fine.

01:23:50.000 Don't let this...

01:23:51.000 Get some liver in your diet.

01:23:52.000 This outdated masculinity take you down.

01:23:56.000 I don't drink that anymore.

01:23:57.000 I drink rice.

01:23:59.000 It's definitely questionable, the health impacts you.

01:24:02.000 You ever seen The Rock's cheat days?

01:24:04.000 No.

01:24:04.000 It's the most special thing you've ever seen.

01:24:06.000 What is it?

01:24:06.000 Like he has a salad?

01:24:07.000 It's a staggering amount of food.

01:24:10.000 No, it's staggering.

01:24:11.000 Pancakes and waffles and cookies and brownies and ice cream.

01:24:14.000 I just want him to pick me up.

01:24:16.000 Sorry.

01:24:16.000 Pizzas.

01:24:17.000 This is him.

01:24:19.000 That's his meals.

01:24:20.000 Get out of here.

01:24:21.000 It's usually on a set.

01:24:23.000 You know, he's on a set. 0.99

01:24:24.000 Oh yeah, no bullshit. 0.99

01:24:26.000 So he has one day where he goes to war. 1.00

01:24:28.000 That man is a machine.

01:24:29.000 He's 14 feet tall.

01:24:30.000 Did you know that?

01:24:31.000 Bro, he's so big it doesn't even make sense.

01:24:32.000 14 feet.

01:24:34.000 But here's my thing.

01:24:36.000 This guy is the real deal.

01:24:38.000 He's an exceptional human.

01:24:39.000 He works really hard and he's really nice.

01:24:42.000 He stands for a lot of things that we can all appreciate.

01:24:45.000 He stands for hard work.

01:24:46.000 He stands for respect.

01:24:48.000 He's very complimentary of people.

01:24:50.000 He's very friendly.

01:24:51.000 He's a nice guy.

01:24:52.000 He's a good person and he's enormous.

01:24:54.000 That's America!

01:24:56.000 He's America! 1.00

01:24:57.000 He's a goddamn bald eagle sitting on a machine gun! 1.00

01:25:00.000 Is there like a major position of power right now, that person, that also has the capacity to have empathy? 1.00

01:25:08.000 Because that man clearly has empathy.

01:25:12.000 Yeah, The Rock does.

01:25:13.000 No, as a president, yeah.

01:25:15.000 Listen, I don't think he would become a politician.

01:25:18.000 I think we're done with politicians.

01:25:20.000 Trump already showed that a non-politician businessman is the host of a reality show can be the king of the world.

01:25:26.000 Okay, well now that we know that, let's get someone...

01:25:29.000 Killer Mike.

01:25:30.000 How about Killer Mike for president? 1.00

01:25:31.000 I would fucking vote for Killer Mike. 1.00

01:25:33.000 Killer Mike. 1.00

01:25:33.000 He said... 1.00

01:25:34.000 He could be president. 0.99

01:25:35.000 No bullshit. 0.99

01:25:37.000 Count me in. 0.99

01:25:38.000 I worship that man.

01:25:39.000 I think he's brilliant.

01:25:40.000 I love him.

01:25:41.000 By the way, Run the Jewels record came out yesterday.

01:25:44.000 It's amazing. 1.00

01:25:45.000 I haven't heard the new shit, but I love their shit. 1.00

01:25:46.000 Mavis Staples sings on one of the songs. 0.99

01:25:49.000 Mavis is one of my favorite people, musicians on the planet.

01:25:53.000 It's incredible.

01:25:53.000 Please check it out.

01:25:55.000 But he said, lost it, lost it, come back.

01:25:59.000 He referred to Donald Trump as...

01:26:02.000 The owner of a casino, like the casino operating owner is our president.

01:26:06.000 He's like, the owner of casinos.

01:26:08.000 I just like get sunk in.

01:26:09.000 I'm like, this guy's, he's a casino guy, hotel guy.

01:26:12.000 What did Tim Dillon call him?

01:26:14.000 Riverboat Casino.

01:26:15.000 What did he call him?

01:26:17.000 Riverboat Casino.

01:26:18.000 Have you ever seen Tim Dillon do Meghan McCain?

01:26:20.000 No.

01:26:21.000 Thank you, Jesus!

01:26:22.000 Another person I get to give a gift to!

01:26:26.000 One of my favorite things in all the internet that anybody's ever done is one of my good friend, Tim Dillon.

01:26:31.000 He's a hilarious comedian.

01:26:33.000 Okay.

01:26:33.000 He does this impression of Meghan McCain.

01:26:34.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:26:35.000 And please take it from the beginning. 1.00

01:26:37.000 Take it from the beginning.

01:26:38.000 Wait, is this in the- Hold on.

01:26:40.000 Before my father died, I had a baby with him.

01:26:44.000 It will be raised in captivity.

01:26:46.000 It'll be raised privately to be the greatest politician that has ever lived.

01:26:51.000 My name is Meghan McCain and I'm on a news show called The View. 1.00

01:26:54.000 And Donald Trump, that fucking riverboat casino captain is talking shit about my father again. 1.00

01:26:59.000 My father was tortured for a hundred years in this fucking country and he came back and he started seven wars because he's a gentleman. 1.00

01:27:07.000 Fuck you, Trump. 1.00

01:27:08.000 I'm gonna wear my father's skin mask and I'm gonna primary Trump from the right. 1.00

01:27:13.000 Come on The View, bitch. 1.00

01:27:14.000 If you're that tough, come on The View. 1.00

01:27:17.000 You want an Alessandro Casio Cortes? 1.00

01:27:20.000 You want this shit? 1.00

01:27:22.000 You want to fuck these tits, Trump? 1.00

01:27:23.000 You want to fuck these tits? 1.00

01:27:24.000 No, you don't. 1.00

01:27:26.000 You want to suck cock, but I won't fuck you because the only person I'll fuck is Daddy. 1.00

01:27:32.000 I'll fuck Daddy's corpse. 1.00

01:27:36.000 That is so fucked up. 1.00

01:27:38.000 A lot of different feelings. 1.00

01:27:39.000 I don't know what to say.

01:27:41.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:27:42.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:27:43.000 Who is that person? 0.99

01:27:44.000 It's Tim Dillon.

01:27:45.000 Tim Dillon.

01:27:47.000 Tim, looking good.

01:27:48.000 He's here with us tonight. 0.98

01:27:50.000 He's a gay fellow. 0.97

01:27:51.000 He gets away with more things. 0.97

01:27:53.000 Is that a thing? 1.00

01:27:54.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:27:55.000 Okay. 1.00

01:27:55.000 He's hilarious. 1.00

01:27:56.000 Alright.

01:27:57.000 Do you know who I love?

01:27:58.000 Andrew Schultz.

01:27:59.000 Oh, yes!

01:28:00.000 That guy's brilliant.

01:28:01.000 Love him.

01:28:01.000 He's informative, brilliant, hilarious, and just gets right to your guts.

01:28:07.000 Who's Andrew Schultz?

01:28:08.000 He's brilliant.

01:28:10.000 He's done the best pandemic comedy that anybody's done, for sure.

01:28:14.000 He does these videos for Instagram where he'll start the video, hey, turn your phone over sideways.

01:28:19.000 Oh, okay.

01:28:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:20.000 And then he has this whole multimedia.

01:28:22.000 Way to control the situation.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.

01:28:24.000 He's got a multimedia presentation.

01:28:26.000 It's really a show, but it's with his stand-up style.

01:28:31.000 Really, really good.

01:28:32.000 Really smart.

01:28:33.000 He's figured out a way.

01:28:34.000 When's he going to get a show?

01:28:35.000 He's got to get a show soon.

01:28:36.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:28:37.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:28:38.000 That guy should do exactly what he's doing. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Just do exactly what he's doing.

01:28:42.000 Keep making those internet things.

01:28:45.000 He's got more than one YouTube show.

01:28:48.000 He's got a YouTube show with Charlemagne that he does. 1.00

01:28:51.000 It's called Brilliant Idiots. 0.99

01:28:52.000 Then he's got the other one. 1.00

01:28:53.000 What is his other one?

01:28:55.000 Have you had him on the show?

01:28:56.000 Yes, he's going to be on next week too. 1.00

01:28:58.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:28:59.000 I love him. 1.00

01:28:59.000 He's a good friend. 1.00

01:29:01.000 Benny, you love it.

01:29:02.000 He does a thing on Central Park, Karen, that lady that freaked out and almost strangled her dog to death and lied about that guy.

01:29:08.000 I shared it with so many people.

01:29:10.000 If you wonder why black people are freaking out, this is real. 1.00

01:29:15.000 These are real people. 0.89

01:29:16.000 First of all, the guy who was using the dog treats, like, come on, man.

01:29:22.000 Like, I wish you were perfect. 0.91

01:29:23.000 I wish you were perfect and she was just crazy. 1.00

01:29:26.000 You know?

01:29:28.000 Keep going.

01:29:29.000 He would, like, keep dog treats.

01:29:32.000 He tried to give her treats. 0.57

01:29:33.000 Her dog treats.

01:29:34.000 Dogs are not supposed to be off-leash.

01:29:38.000 Right, right, right.

01:29:39.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:29:40.000 Dogs go off leash and I believe he's a bird watcher.

01:29:42.000 Yes!

01:29:42.000 No!

01:29:43.000 Fact!

01:29:44.000 Okay.

01:29:44.000 Bird watchers are really hardcore.

01:29:46.000 I got really into optics because I was, like, when I started hunting, I really got into binoculars.

01:29:53.000 Okay.

01:29:54.000 I was trying to figure out why some binoculars were really expensive and what they used them for.

01:29:59.000 Bird watching is a big deal.

01:30:02.000 The people that are really into birds, like spotting birds, it's like there's some crazy- Bird nerd right here.

01:30:07.000 Are you a bird nerd? 0.87

01:30:08.000 Huge bird nerd. 0.99

01:30:09.000 Dude, there's an orgasmic quality when people find an owl that's hiding in a hole. 0.79

01:30:15.000 There he is!

01:30:16.000 There he is!

01:30:17.000 I don't know what it is. 1.00

01:30:18.000 It might be tied to hunter-gatherer DNA or some shit. 0.99

01:30:22.000 I just love birds. 0.98

01:30:23.000 But it's the same feeling that you get when you catch a fish.

01:30:26.000 I also love fishing.

01:30:28.000 There you go.

01:30:29.000 But you know that thing that you get?

01:30:31.000 There's a rush that you get when you catch a fish. 1.00

01:30:33.000 I think it's like hunter-gatherer shit. 0.99

01:30:35.000 It's like, I got one, I got one. 1.00

01:30:37.000 And then you see a bird, even if you're just seeing it with your binos, you're like, oh, there he is, there he is.

01:30:41.000 He's hiding.

01:30:42.000 Oh, look, look, look, look, look, look.

01:30:44.000 It's amazing.

01:30:45.000 It's weird, right?

01:30:46.000 No.

01:30:47.000 It's not bad.

01:30:48.000 But so that's why that dude is pissed off. 1.00

01:30:51.000 These fucking dipshit dogs that are supposed to be on leashes are running around. 1.00

01:30:55.000 Well, you know, she lost her dog and her job, so. 1.00

01:30:58.000 Well, that's fucked up. 0.99

01:30:59.000 Is it though? 0.99

01:31:01.000 Did you watch the video? 1.00

01:31:02.000 Yeah, she's fucked up. 1.00

01:31:03.000 She's fucked up. 1.00

01:31:04.000 I mean... 1.00

01:31:04.000 For sure. 1.00

01:31:05.000 But should she lose her dog? 0.99

01:31:06.000 The moment where she says, I'm going to tell him an African American is threatening my life. 1.00

01:31:11.000 And it was just so matter of fact and gross. 0.98

01:31:14.000 And in that moment...

01:31:16.000 Would you want that person working for you and with you?

01:31:19.000 No, I wouldn't.

01:31:19.000 But I don't know her, right?

01:31:23.000 So I don't know if she's redeemable.

01:31:24.000 I don't know what that was about.

01:31:26.000 I don't know if she had a panic attack because it was just her and that guy.

01:31:29.000 That's fair.

01:31:29.000 You know what?

01:31:29.000 That's very generous and I appreciate that perspective.

01:31:32.000 You have to consider that a lot of people are very scared of conflict.

01:31:37.000 And when women are in the presence of a man confronting them in an angry way about something.

01:31:44.000 I don't care what race you are. 1.00

01:31:45.000 He wasn't angry.

01:31:46.000 He was so calm and gentle.

01:31:48.000 That's the thing.

01:31:49.000 He was genuinely...

01:31:51.000 But he was accusing her of not having a dog on the leash, right? 0.99

01:31:53.000 Yeah, and she didn't like being told what to do by a black person. 0.98

01:31:56.000 I think that's true.

01:31:57.000 I think that's certainly true.

01:31:59.000 But I also think, for sure, 100%, that was a conflict.

01:32:03.000 And during conflicts, people act irrationally.

01:32:05.000 They don't know what to do.

01:32:07.000 Sure. 1.00

01:32:07.000 They get out of their own head, they fuck up. 1.00

01:32:09.000 It could be a clear example of just how she acts all the time, that she is always racist, and she always exaggerates anything that's happening and lies. 1.00

01:32:19.000 She posted a video after the fact and said, Andrew Schultz talks about this.

01:32:25.000 She said, I'm not racist.

01:32:28.000 I was afraid for my life.

01:32:30.000 That could be possible.

01:32:32.000 But that's racism, because you're afraid for your life by a gentle person who was like, hey, can you put your dog on a leash?

01:32:39.000 It could be.

01:32:40.000 It could be racism.

01:32:41.000 It could also be racism on top of conflict.

01:32:45.000 Maybe her racism would never show itself, but then in conflict she panics.

01:32:49.000 Some people panic during conflict.

01:32:51.000 And when you're looking at someone that's doing something awful in a crisis situation, like we've seen people hit people with, I was watching this video the other day, of this lady coming up to this guy on the street, and the only reason why I found this is because people kept saying, dude, is this you?

01:33:06.000 Did you hit this lady in the head with a 2x4? 1.00

01:33:09.000 Because there's this fucking lady in some Spanish neighborhood. 1.00

01:33:11.000 You're like, no, I sweep the knee. 1.00

01:33:12.000 All these people are yelling in Spanish.

01:33:13.000 They're yelling in Spanish. 1.00

01:33:14.000 And this lady has this big ass fucking stick. 1.00

01:33:17.000 And she walks up to this dude who looks exactly like me. 1.00

01:33:20.000 And he has a two by four.

01:33:23.000 And he says something in Spanish.

01:33:25.000 She doesn't listen. 0.96

01:33:25.000 And he bonks her in the head with this two by four. 0.96

01:33:27.000 And knocks her unconscious. 0.92

01:33:29.000 Watch this.

01:33:30.000 This is it.

01:33:30.000 So I swear to God, like five of my friends sent me this.

01:33:35.000 So she gets mad at him.

01:33:36.000 And she goes and picks up a stick.

01:33:38.000 Look, they're yelling at each other.

01:33:40.000 Give me some volume on this.

01:33:41.000 Where's you?

01:33:42.000 Yeah, where's Joe?

01:33:44.000 A little bit further.

01:33:46.000 Towards the fight.

01:33:49.000 Yeah, so it looks like they're in front. 0.99

01:33:51.000 Yeah, see, that's the guy in the white shirt, and they're talking shit to each other, this guy and this girl, which is just so crazy, right? 0.99

01:33:57.000 Go a little further ahead. 0.99

01:33:59.000 Oh, there it is, right here.

01:34:00.000 Oh, no!

01:34:00.000 Oh, wow!

01:34:01.000 She comes up.

01:34:02.000 Oh, boy.

01:34:04.000 It's pretty Jewish.

01:34:05.000 Those pants.

01:34:05.000 That guy has no tattoos.

01:34:07.000 He has no tattoos.

01:34:08.000 Oh, he has sleeves on though.

01:34:09.000 He looks exactly like me.

01:34:10.000 Is she knocked out?

01:34:11.000 That might have been me. 1.00

01:34:12.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:34:12.000 I might have taken Ambien and hit that lady over the head with a stick. 1.00

01:34:15.000 She does not look conscious. 0.92

01:34:17.000 She's not unconscious.

01:34:18.000 She's 100% unconscious.

01:34:19.000 He hit her in the head with a 2x4. 0.99

01:34:21.000 Oh my god.

01:34:21.000 This is crazy.

01:34:23.000 I don't know what the context was, but she- go back again, watch.

01:34:26.000 Are you talking about conflict?

01:34:27.000 No, back up so you can see what's happening. 0.99

01:34:29.000 She walks up, she grabs a stick, and he's like, stop, get the fuck away from me. 0.99

01:34:32.000 So she starts coming towards him, and when she starts coming towards him, she's got this big ass fucking stick, and I don't speak Spanish. 1.00

01:34:39.000 Right in front of United Express. 0.99

01:34:41.000 Here it goes, look, she's coming at him full speed with this stick, and he's like, oh no, Jesus Christ, stop, stop.

01:34:50.000 He didn't really swing that hard either.

01:34:52.000 He just kind of gave a little bop.

01:34:54.000 That's all it takes.

01:34:55.000 I mean, most people are not very 2x4 resilient.

01:35:01.000 Every time I get hit with a 2x4, I just get right back up. 1.00

01:35:04.000 Dude, getting hit in the head with a 2x4 would suck. 1.00

01:35:06.000 That would suck. 0.99

01:35:07.000 That was so heavy. 0.98

01:35:08.000 I have to pee.

01:35:09.000 That was a situation of conflict and we can't assign any racial elements. 1.00

01:35:14.000 She certainly fucked up. 0.99

01:35:15.000 I'm not an apologist. 1.00

01:35:17.000 And she certainly lied, which is indicative of a character flaw. 0.72

01:35:21.000 It's not just that she tried to talk her way out of this.

01:35:23.000 She tried to be reasonable.

01:35:25.000 She wasn't even reasonable.

01:35:26.000 Just look how she was treating her dog, right? 1.00

01:35:27.000 She's treating her dog in a very horrible way, like basically holding it up, like choking the fucking thing. 0.99

01:35:33.000 Once she immediately identifies him as African-American on the phone, on the 911 call. 1.00

01:35:36.000 If you love your dog, you don't ever hang him. 1.00

01:35:37.000 You don't fucking... 0.99

01:35:38.000 Even if you pull on the leash, you don't... 1.00

01:35:41.000 Like, hey, get over here.

01:35:42.000 Yeah, maybe she just doesn't know how to use a leash. 1.00

01:35:44.000 You don't fucking... 0.98

01:35:44.000 You don't hold him up in the air like... 0.98

01:35:46.000 It's bizarre, but I also think that's indicative of someone who's going through a panic attack.

01:35:51.000 She just wants to control that dog. 1.00

01:35:52.000 She literally doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:35:53.000 You know, she's just, shut the fuck up! 1.00

01:35:57.000 And she's 100% wrong. 0.99

01:35:58.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:35:59.000 I'm not excusing her. 0.98

01:36:00.000 But I'm saying, when you look at what it really is, it's a woman who is alone with a man, and the man is catching her doing some shit she's not supposed to do. 0.96

01:36:10.000 And he's got a camera on her, right? 0.91

01:36:12.000 So all those things freak people out.

01:36:15.000 A lot of factors.

01:36:16.000 There's a lot of things going on there.

01:36:17.000 It's not just this is who she is.

01:36:20.000 And the guy was like, he had treats.

01:36:22.000 But I get it from his perspective.

01:36:24.000 If you live in an area, and this area has been clearly assigned as a place where if you have a dog, that dog has to be on a leash.

01:36:31.000 That's super reasonable, man.

01:36:32.000 Put your dog on a leash.

01:36:34.000 Take it around.

01:36:35.000 Enjoy the park with everybody else.

01:36:36.000 But don't ruin it for everybody else because you want your dog to run free.

01:36:40.000 You need to find another place to have a dog.

01:36:42.000 You can't have a dog here.

01:36:43.000 And if this guy is like...

01:36:45.000 Yeah, there's all these birds there. 0.99

01:36:46.000 So this dude is really into fucking spotting birds. 0.98

01:36:49.000 I've never been into birdwatching, but I fucking 100% get it. 0.99

01:36:53.000 Because I've seen some cool shit. 0.97

01:36:55.000 For hunting, I'm sure you feel the same way, right? 0.95

01:36:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's slightly different, right?

01:37:00.000 I mean, you can enjoy the beauty of birds without wanting to go kill them.

01:37:05.000 Sure.

01:37:06.000 But isn't there an element when you're hunting, you find the moment where you come across this animal, it's not just kill.

01:37:13.000 It is a beauty, but you've got to put that aside and get the job done.

01:37:18.000 You have to.

01:37:19.000 It's too intense.

01:37:20.000 And it's too fraught with peril. 1.00

01:37:22.000 You can fuck it up. 0.95

01:37:24.000 So you're confronting those, I've never hunted before. 0.98

01:37:27.000 It's real weird.

01:37:29.000 You pull up a file from the back of your hard drive.

01:37:32.000 You're like, oh, I forgot about this folder.

01:37:35.000 And you pull out this folder of these hunter-gatherer instincts that pop in.

01:37:40.000 The same thing when you catch a fish.

01:37:42.000 It's like catching a fish and there's something like, oh, I got him, I got him, I got him, I got the fish.

01:37:48.000 But there's something more terrifying about mammals, like closing in on a mammal.

01:37:52.000 When you're fishing, it's so passive most of the time.

01:37:55.000 You're baiting something and you hook it.

01:37:57.000 But you have to make a decision in a moment to act aggressively and to end this thing's life.

01:38:03.000 Yeah, and you have to prepare for it.

01:38:05.000 So you have to think about it all the time.

01:38:07.000 It's not a simple thing.

01:38:08.000 You have to think about it all the time.

01:38:09.000 So you can choose to get your meat the regular way or choose to do it that way.

01:38:13.000 And I've chosen to do it that way because it adds this element.

01:38:17.000 I'll still eat domestic cows and stuff like that, but it adds this element of what food is.

01:38:22.000 Like when I eat something that I killed myself, there's a weird element to that.

01:38:27.000 There's a connection.

01:38:30.000 Truthful isn't the right word, but it's a more clear representation of the process.

01:38:34.000 It's honest.

01:38:35.000 Yeah, that's a better word.

01:38:37.000 You understand what it is.

01:38:37.000 But you also understand, like I've come across, you know, ones that have been killed by wolves.

01:38:42.000 We came across, me and my friend Mike, we were in, Mike Harkridge, we were in Canada, in BC. We came across this moose calf that had been destroyed by wolves and torn apart.

01:38:54.000 It was so strange, man.

01:38:56.000 It was like part of me was because it was real fresh like within a few days like maybe a day might have been that day and When they walked away from it because it was like hair everywhere and these stripped down bones And it was just a spot in the middle of the woods where you just came across a moose calf.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, and you realize like wow This is how they usually go Yeah, the violence is a different type of violence.

01:39:19.000 This is how they usually die.

01:39:21.000 They just get torn apart out here in this field.

01:39:24.000 The thing that freaked me out that I didn't expect...

01:39:27.000 Jamie, I know I have this on my Instagram.

01:39:29.000 See if you can find it.

01:39:31.000 Good luck.

01:39:32.000 Because it's like from 2013, I think.

01:39:34.000 So I was on this moose hunt in BC with my friend Ben O'Brien.

01:39:40.000 And when we were going through these woods looking for a moose, we found this moose calf that had been killed by wolves.

01:39:48.000 And it was...

01:39:49.000 You could tell it was wolves.

01:39:50.000 100%.

01:39:51.000 Mike knew.

01:39:51.000 Mike knew right away.

01:39:53.000 He just knows.

01:39:53.000 I mean, he lives there.

01:39:54.000 He's a professional guide and a rancher.

01:39:56.000 That's it, right there.

01:39:58.000 So this is what freaked me out.

01:39:59.000 Is all the hair.

01:40:01.000 Like, I didn't expect the hair.

01:40:02.000 Is that dog hair or is that moose hair?

01:40:04.000 No, no, no, no.

01:40:04.000 It's moose hair.

01:40:05.000 That's the hair from the animal that they killed.

01:40:07.000 Why is it gray?

01:40:08.000 Well, they have a lot of white.

01:40:10.000 Moose have a lot of white.

01:40:12.000 Underbelly, in particular, they have a lot of white. 0.93

01:40:14.000 They all vary.

01:40:15.000 That was 290 weeks ago.

01:40:17.000 Oh wow, isn't that nuts?

01:40:18.000 If you want to measure time in that way, that's weird.

01:40:20.000 Dude, that's kind of scary.

01:40:21.000 Yeah.

01:40:22.000 290 weeks.

01:40:24.000 So that was a photo that I took.

01:40:26.000 I think it was about three hours north of Vancouver.

01:40:30.000 Wow.

01:40:30.000 We landed in Vancouver and drove up there, up north.

01:40:33.000 It was amazing, though.

01:40:35.000 There's something about that when you're around these animals that are just killing other animals and just eating them out.

01:40:40.000 He found it because he saw some birds. 1.00

01:40:43.000 The way people live up there, when you live around wolves and bears and shit, you're in tune with all this shit. 0.99

01:40:49.000 I didn't even notice it. 0.99

01:40:51.000 He saw some birds that were kind of circling around this one area. 0.99

01:40:53.000 He's like, let's go see what the fuck they're interested in. 0.98

01:40:56.000 And then we got there and stumbled upon that. 0.99

01:40:59.000 When you're in nature and you start to integrate yourself and become in tune, it's fucking fascinating. 0.71

01:41:07.000 I've never hunted, but I fish a lot.

01:41:09.000 And when you're fly fishing, you start to become aware of the bugs that are around you and what kind of flies that you want to make for your bait.

01:41:15.000 And it's really interesting.

01:41:18.000 It feels very spiritual. 0.66

01:41:19.000 I think that what people are when they're in cities are like people what they are when they're having sex with two condoms on. 0.80

01:41:27.000 Who has sex with two condoms on? 0.86

01:41:28.000 Nobody. 0.80

01:41:29.000 But there's no sense to it.

01:41:32.000 When you go to the woods, it's like you feel the wind different because it's like the wind just moving through the trees.

01:41:40.000 It's not blocked off by buildings and coming down these streets and alleys.

01:41:44.000 It's different wind.

01:41:45.000 It's wind in a natural trajectory.

01:41:47.000 You know, birds have different...

01:41:49.000 Accents, city birds, and rural birds.

01:41:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:52.000 Crows?

01:41:52.000 For sure.

01:41:53.000 Crows are the smartest, by the way. 1.00

01:41:55.000 They're smart as fuck, right? 1.00

01:41:56.000 They're smart as fuck. 1.00

01:41:57.000 Calling it after crows. 1.00

01:41:59.000 Representing.

01:41:59.000 Crows and ravens.

01:42:00.000 When you're out there and there's no sound, And there's no media.

01:42:04.000 There's no nothing.

01:42:05.000 And you're just hearing the whistling of the wind.

01:42:07.000 And you hear a stream.

01:42:09.000 And you hear a hawk.

01:42:10.000 And you see an animal walk through the brush.

01:42:13.000 And you don't know what it is.

01:42:14.000 And then you realize, if I wasn't here, this would be exactly how this would go down.

01:42:19.000 And how lucky are you to witness it?

01:42:23.000 We're muted.

01:42:24.000 We're muted by our artificially constructed civilization where we've narrowed down the possibilities of being eaten.

01:42:31.000 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 That's what we've done.

01:42:34.000 Everything else is super vulnerable to be eaten all the time.

01:42:39.000 We've narrowed that down. 1.00

01:42:40.000 We use our big brains and our fucking opposable thumbs and we said, look, I'm going to stop being eaten by cats and shit. 1.00

01:42:47.000 Let's make some fucking houses. 1.00

01:42:49.000 We need some guns. 1.00

01:42:50.000 We need to be vigilant.

01:42:52.000 What's interesting now, I mean, I think I'd rather live in a city than get eaten.

01:42:56.000 Yes.

01:42:56.000 Oh, dude, 100%.

01:42:57.000 Maybe that's selfish.

01:42:58.000 I think there's a balance to be had, and I don't think we achieve that balance.

01:43:04.000 I think we need to spend more time in that world to understand what the world is.

01:43:08.000 I think we're basing our view of the world off of blunt data.

01:43:12.000 I don't think it's giving us a real nuanced sense of what your part in the universe is.

01:43:19.000 I think a big part of that is the light pollution that we're all afflicted by.

01:43:23.000 Sure.

01:43:23.000 There's something really humbling about staring out into the space and seeing all the stars.

01:43:28.000 And we have decided that lights are more important than the enlightenment that you get from staring at space.

01:43:34.000 I don't know if it's a good call.

01:43:36.000 Not a good call.

01:43:37.000 Definitely not good.

01:43:37.000 Some of the best moments of my life have been hanging out with people I care about, looking up at the stars.

01:43:44.000 It's so powerful.

01:43:45.000 There's something about it where it's a reality check.

01:43:49.000 Like, hey man, this is forever above your head.

01:43:52.000 It doesn't have an ending to it.

01:43:54.000 You're thinking about this small insular little world that you live in.

01:43:58.000 You're a part of something that's literally infinite and you're flying through it right now.

01:44:03.000 And you've decided that it's more important to be able to drive at 10 o'clock down a nice well lit street than it is to see the majesty of the universe.

01:44:13.000 Well, the inability to understand that plays into so many of the things we were talking about earlier.

01:44:19.000 Just cops freaking out, people freaking out, unable to recognize, you know, a more total awareness in a situation. 0.99

01:44:27.000 But if you want to boil it down to the natural brass tacks of like, you know, Mother Earth, if you want to look at it that way, saying, go to your fucking room. 0.98

01:44:38.000 And we have to sit and let her breathe. 0.91

01:44:41.000 I mean, think about what's happened in the past few months is just in terms of pollution and the way that the earth is growing and breathing.

01:44:46.000 All kinds of incredible things are happening.

01:44:49.000 Like with the monkeys in, was it India? 1.00

01:44:52.000 Yes, yes.

01:44:55.000 There's one in Thailand.

01:44:56.000 Did you see the Thailand one?

01:44:57.000 Was that Thailand?

01:44:58.000 I think they sent it to you.

01:44:59.000 Where there was no tourists anymore, so the monkeys were going to war with each other.

01:45:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:45:04.000 That's not as beautiful as I wanted to depict this thought, but whatever.

01:45:10.000 That's my cousin.

01:45:13.000 You're right.

01:45:14.000 Mother Nature's telling us to go to our room.

01:45:16.000 I think we would like to believe that our systems, all of them, they're independent.

01:45:25.000 That our system of the way we view each other...

01:45:29.000 If you wanted to look at...

01:45:32.000 Racism, classism, sexism, all the different isms and all the different biases that things have, people leaning left and leaning right and censoring people that oppose them.

01:45:42.000 If you wanted to look at it like a system, like the thoughts are a system and then all the life forms are a system.

01:45:47.000 There's some sort of a moving, flowing give and take to all of it, to life and death and the organic...

01:45:57.000 Structure of the land that you live on.

01:46:00.000 It's all supposed to work together.

01:46:01.000 Animals die, they fertilize the ground.

01:46:03.000 And as soon as we...

01:46:04.000 We jam ourselves into this and we go, you know what? 1.00

01:46:08.000 Fuck fertilizer. 1.00

01:46:09.000 How about we grow these fucking things with chemicals and we put them in a big warehouse and we force Mexicans to work here for $3 an hour. 1.00

01:46:15.000 It all feeds into everything. 1.00

01:46:18.000 It's all related.

01:46:19.000 It really is.

01:46:20.000 And then people get sick.

01:46:22.000 And then the abuse.

01:46:23.000 And then all these negative things.

01:46:25.000 And then they affect crime.

01:46:26.000 And then crime affects the way you think about each other.

01:46:28.000 Well, no one wants to take accountability for their choices.

01:46:31.000 Like, the guys upstairs, the ones in power, don't want to say, well, this is what we did. 0.96

01:46:35.000 But since it's all fucked up and it's not working, we're going to just point our fingers at these people. 1.00

01:46:39.000 Well, because if they fuck up, we hate them. 1.00

01:46:41.000 And we want them out of office. 1.00

01:46:43.000 You fucking loser. 1.00

01:46:43.000 You ruined this economy. 1.00

01:46:45.000 They don't even have a chance to fuck up. 0.99

01:46:47.000 But people fuck up in everything they do. 0.99

01:46:50.000 But so much of the tension of it is that consciousness comes from that natural system and is part of it. 0.95

01:46:57.000 So how do you...

01:46:58.000 Reconciling that is...

01:46:59.000 Is that the chimpanzee or the bonobo?

01:47:01.000 That's where the mushrooms come in.

01:47:03.000 Yellow!

01:47:04.000 The mushrooms show you the grand pattern. 1.00

01:47:07.000 And make you realize how you're fucking up, kid. 0.99

01:47:10.000 One of the saddest things I've discovered as a fisherwoman... 0.99

01:47:14.000 I don't get to fish as much as I would like.

01:47:17.000 You're an angler.

01:47:18.000 Yeah. 0.75

01:47:18.000 Angler. 0.75

01:47:19.000 You're an angler. 0.58

01:47:20.000 It's a better...

01:47:20.000 Almost every place that I've gone fishing...

01:47:24.000 In the past few years, in beautiful places, even in pristine nature.

01:47:28.000 We were fly fishing in Montana on the Clark Fork River, and it's not a piece of trash for miles.

01:47:34.000 Just eagles, ospreys, just absolutely stunning.

01:47:38.000 People getting eaten.

01:47:39.000 People getting eaten.

01:47:40.000 Left and right.

01:47:40.000 A couple.

01:47:42.000 You can't eat any of the fish that you catch because sometime in the 70s or 80s the mines that they were using in the area started leaking minerals into the river and it contaminated the area and you'll get really sick.

01:47:55.000 Is that true?

01:47:55.000 Yes, it is true.

01:47:56.000 Is this a rumor?

01:47:57.000 No.

01:47:58.000 No, no, no.

01:47:58.000 You can't eat the fish.

01:47:59.000 Where are you hearing this?

01:48:00.000 There's some areas where that's the case.

01:48:03.000 The areas around Billings, there's a lot of places that have had...

01:48:07.000 But if you're in other places, I guarantee you, you could eat the fish.

01:48:10.000 Clark Fork River in Montana, I don't believe.

01:48:13.000 But here's what I'm saying.

01:48:14.000 Outside Missoula.

01:48:15.000 It would be an ecological catastrophe of the highest order the United States has ever seen if all the rivers in Montana were polluted to the point where you couldn't eat the fish.

01:48:24.000 You're talking about a certain section?

01:48:26.000 Maybe it was a certain section.

01:48:28.000 I don't know.

01:48:28.000 I would imagine it has to be.

01:48:29.000 That would be horrific.

01:48:30.000 But even then, one of our last river trips a couple years ago, Ben and I were hired as entertainment for this incredible trip on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon in Oregon. 0.99

01:48:44.000 I mean, no cell service for three days, so you don't have a fucking cell phone. 0.99

01:48:49.000 Shitting outside. 1.00

01:48:50.000 See? 0.98

01:48:52.000 Like doing it.

01:48:52.000 Hole in the grass or no?

01:48:54.000 No, we had like a...

01:48:56.000 It was a bucket situation.

01:48:57.000 Oh, gross.

01:48:58.000 And then you put this like powder. 0.64

01:48:59.000 It's horrifying.

01:49:00.000 A powder on a bucket?

01:49:00.000 But you got to do it.

01:49:01.000 Hey, hey, toughen up, Rogan.

01:49:04.000 That's where I draw the line. 1.00

01:49:06.000 That's where I become a bitch. 1.00

01:49:07.000 I'm not shitting in a bucket. 1.00

01:49:08.000 Are you a glamper? 1.00

01:49:09.000 I'm not shitting in a bucket. 1.00

01:49:11.000 No, when I went hunting with Brian Callen, we had a shit in the forest. 1.00

01:49:15.000 You didn't shit in a bucket? 1.00

01:49:15.000 No, we had a shit in the forest. 1.00

01:49:16.000 And I took his shit. 1.00

01:49:17.000 I have a picture somewhere on my phone. 1.00

01:49:19.000 And I put a flag in it.

01:49:20.000 I made a flag. 0.99

01:49:21.000 I have aluminum foil, and I planted it in his shit, and I had him standing over it with his pants down to his ankles, giving me the thumbs up, and we're in the middle of Montana. 0.99

01:49:32.000 Let me tell you something, Callan and I, we hunted for seven days. 0.99

01:49:36.000 It was one long, ridiculous joke after another. 0.65

01:49:40.000 All we were doing was stuff like that. 0.98

01:49:42.000 Jesus Christ.

01:49:43.000 Brian Callan came up with a character called the Ravine-comer.

01:49:47.000 He's a guy who finds ravines and just jacks off in ravines.

01:49:52.000 He was deciding, like, some people are into, like, ladies' feet.

01:49:58.000 Some people are into hair and eyes. 1.00

01:50:00.000 I like a fucking ravine! 1.00

01:50:03.000 You know what? 1.00

01:50:04.000 I can relate.

01:50:05.000 These camera guys were dying.

01:50:08.000 They're filming this hunting show.

01:50:10.000 And you got Brian Cowan who's miming, jacking off into a ravine. 1.00

01:50:16.000 With a flag in his shit. 1.00

01:50:19.000 We were crying. 1.00

01:50:21.000 We were crying. 0.98

01:50:23.000 It was so ridiculous. 0.96

01:50:26.000 I think I'm crying. 0.97

01:50:27.000 I had a real tear.

01:50:28.000 I wish you were there.

01:50:29.000 I wish you could see it.

01:50:30.000 Hey, you can bring Honey Honey next time. 0.98

01:50:32.000 We'll fake jerk off in the room. 0.96

01:50:34.000 I think they even filmed it. 0.99

01:50:35.000 Whatever we gotta do.

01:50:36.000 I think they even filmed it, but they wouldn't put it on the show.

01:50:39.000 And I was like, you know, I mean, you would lose a lot of fans, but you gain a lot, too.

01:50:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:43.000 I'm used to it these days.

01:50:44.000 It's a fucking ebb and flow. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:50:48.000 No, but there's something to be said...

01:50:50.000 It is.

01:50:51.000 Clark Fork Fishkill.

01:50:53.000 Mind waste.

01:50:55.000 But it can't be all of them.

01:50:58.000 That's got to be like one creek.

01:51:00.000 Because I think one of the things they do...

01:51:02.000 I think it's a pretty big river, though.

01:51:03.000 It's gotten a lot of rain.

01:51:05.000 The fish kills that have happened in the past, a lot of times they're shortly after big rain events.

01:51:09.000 Rain starts to run over land and it'll pick up a lot of metals from those contaminated areas we call sickens.

01:51:16.000 Ew.

01:51:17.000 Oh, slickens. 1.00

01:51:18.000 Slickens is better.

01:51:19.000 Isn't Slickens better? 1.00

01:51:21.000 Slickens. 0.54

01:51:22.000 Those metals can get into the river.

01:51:24.000 Betty Slickens. 0.83

01:51:25.000 Slickens. 0.54

01:51:26.000 Have you ever heard that word before?

01:51:27.000 No.

01:51:28.000 Slickens are pieces of ground in the upper Clark Fork watershed devoid of life due to heavy metal contamination dating back to the early 20th century flood that washed mine waste off the Butte Hill and down river all the way to Missoula.

01:51:43.000 So all the way down there, those fish could die.

01:51:47.000 But that's what's so disconcerting is, you know, back to when Ben and I did this river raft trip, which was so, it was just beautiful.

01:51:57.000 But I mean, you're in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, like nothing but nature.

01:52:02.000 And when we were on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon, it's a canyon, right?

01:52:07.000 So any runoff from farms up top is going to end up in the river.

01:52:12.000 And we did a lot of fishing and almost everything I caught, any catfish that came up, bass, all had weird abscesses on them.

01:52:22.000 But you could see...

01:52:24.000 Why did we go there?

01:52:26.000 What's that?

01:52:27.000 I wonder why...

01:52:28.000 I mean, maybe next time we'll go to a different river.

01:52:31.000 Oh, great.

01:52:33.000 Great idea, Ben.

01:52:34.000 Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

01:52:35.000 Hey, you pick the river.

01:52:37.000 Let's go.

01:52:38.000 Let's go there. 1.00

01:52:40.000 That place sucks. 1.00

01:52:41.000 Let's go to another place, bro. 1.00

01:52:43.000 Are you channeling your inner Jeff Spicoli?

01:52:45.000 Hey, does this river have abscesses on your fish?

01:52:48.000 Because if not, we want to fish there.

01:52:51.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:52:53.000 That's a great idea, actually.

01:52:55.000 That's the darkest deal with mining, right?

01:52:57.000 That's the thing that everyone's terrified of.

01:52:59.000 I have a lot of good friends that are involved in conservation and a lot of the laws that get passed in terms of what affects wildlife, what areas are allowed to be open for mining and stuff like that.

01:53:11.000 They're always moving and trying to stop stuff like that from being happened, from being drilled.

01:53:17.000 Because you never know.

01:53:17.000 I mean, there's just so many times it'll poison a system.

01:53:21.000 And if that's the case, that it goes all the way down to Missoula, I don't know how far that is from Clark Fork, is that what it is?

01:53:26.000 The river is called Clark Fork.

01:53:28.000 How far away is it from Missoula that it goes all the way down there?

01:53:30.000 I don't know, we probably drove like an hour or so to get to the spot.

01:53:32.000 It's not long, not far.

01:53:33.000 It's not far.

01:53:34.000 But imagine that, if it goes all the way down there.

01:53:36.000 So that's like what? 0.95

01:53:37.000 50, 60 miles of fucked up creek? 0.94

01:53:41.000 There's this great book called The Four Fish, and it came out a long time ago, which makes it scarier.

01:53:47.000 But the writer talks about the four remaining fish, and then there's all the farming industries and how that's kind of like...

01:53:59.000 Just kind of cross-bred into our river systems.

01:54:02.000 And so at this point, if someone's like, this is your Atlantic salmon, it's not necessarily the Atlantic salmon that would have been the same salmon.

01:54:09.000 Oh yeah, it's farm-ranged.

01:54:12.000 Nothing's what it used to be, the way it's evolved.

01:54:14.000 And the sad part is...

01:54:17.000 I am such an optimist at heart, but in terms of fishing and getting—and you could probably relate to this with hunting—authentic, clean fish, it's not a thing. 0.95

01:54:28.000 We've fucked with the earth too much with our pesticides and the way that we farm and the way that we try to fuck with nature.

01:54:34.000 It's just not—you don't know what you're catching and if you're going to ingest it. 0.93

01:54:40.000 Who knows what it is anymore?

01:54:42.000 There's a great book that actually just got released about salmon.

01:54:47.000 My friend Steve Rinella on The Meat Eater interviewed the author.

01:54:50.000 I like that guy.

01:54:51.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:54:52.000 Steve's an amazing guy.

01:54:53.000 And he's just one of the best representatives for the best well-read arguments for a hunting, fishing lifestyle.

01:55:03.000 But he has this great podcast called Meat Eater, and he had on this guy who wrote this book on salmon, and he was explaining how complicated it is for salmon to bounce back.

01:55:13.000 Because if you took some farm salmon and you just threw them in a river with a bunch of salmon that are swimming up river to breed, these dumb salmon wouldn't know where to go.

01:55:21.000 They're in a farm. 0.97

01:55:23.000 They just sit around waiting to be fed.

01:55:24.000 They don't know anything. 1.00

01:55:26.000 So here they are, 24 pounds, just dumb as fuck. 1.00

01:55:30.000 Just like a robot person. 1.00

01:55:31.000 Like, they don't, like, hey, where are we going for food?

01:55:33.000 Where's the food? 1.00

01:55:34.000 Like, bitch, you gotta earn this food. 1.00

01:55:35.000 You gotta go kill these fish. 1.00

01:55:36.000 Look at those bugs. 0.96

01:55:37.000 Jump, get them, jump.

01:55:38.000 Jump up the rocks.

01:55:40.000 Fish robot.

01:55:41.000 You guys are swimming upriver? 1.00

01:55:42.000 What the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

01:55:44.000 Why don't you just wait for the food? 1.00

01:55:45.000 Yeah, the guy.

01:55:45.000 What about the guy?

01:55:47.000 There's supposed to be pellets, right?

01:55:49.000 They told me there was going to be pellets here. 1.00

01:55:50.000 Yeah, where's the fucking pellets, bitch? 1.00

01:55:52.000 Apparently, each river, like each tributary is specific to one sort of like almost breed of salmon. 1.00

01:56:00.000 Yeah.

01:56:00.000 Like the type of salmon.

01:56:01.000 And they don't even know how the fuck they know how to come back to the place where they were born. 1.00

01:56:06.000 So they find the place where they were born and they fucking die there. 1.00

01:56:10.000 Shit. 1.00

01:56:11.000 How do they know how to get back there? 1.00

01:56:13.000 And if you block the river, they don't know what the fuck to do. 0.99

01:56:16.000 So when people put dams up and shit and they block the river, they just kill off giant streams of this majestic animal. 0.99

01:56:24.000 But it's such a weird animal because it's got to travel to the ocean. 0.99

01:56:28.000 It's this weird fish.

01:56:29.000 It gets smaller and smaller every year, the population.

01:56:32.000 And that's what's like, at this point, like, are we just going to start eating farmed salmon and only farmed salmon?

01:56:37.000 Like, wild caught is a thing?

01:56:39.000 It's got other consequences, too, with orcas.

01:56:41.000 There's a resident population, I think in the Puget Sound, around Seattle, in the Pacific Northwest, there's a resident population of these dolphins that only eat salmon. 0.99

01:56:52.000 Those dicks! 1.00

01:56:53.000 No, there's no salmon for them anymore. 1.00

01:56:55.000 They're fucking starving. 1.00

01:56:56.000 Oh shit, I feel bad now. 1.00

01:56:57.000 They won't eat the other stuff. 1.00

01:56:59.000 The salmon that are thriving up there are the ones that are transitory. 0.99

01:57:04.000 And they come in and they eat the seals and shit. 0.98

01:57:07.000 They eat mammals. 0.99

01:57:09.000 And these other ones won't eat seals. 1.00

01:57:10.000 They just won't eat them.

01:57:11.000 They only want to eat salmon.

01:57:13.000 Since there's no salmon, they're like, literally, they're worried they're going to...

01:57:16.000 Wow, isn't that crazy?

01:57:17.000 They just don't have that.

01:57:18.000 They don't have it.

01:57:19.000 They don't have it.

01:57:20.000 Yeah.

01:57:20.000 You ever read that book, Sapiens?

01:57:21.000 Yes.

01:57:22.000 It's amazing.

01:57:22.000 Oh, my God.

01:57:23.000 Was it Noah Yuval Harari?

01:57:25.000 Yeah, Harari.

01:57:26.000 Yeah, right.

01:57:27.000 That is amazing.

01:57:28.000 An incredible book.

01:57:29.000 It's so eye-opening.

01:57:31.000 And he talks about...

01:57:33.000 This is dating back, what, 70, 80, 90,000 years, whenever the human species, or Homo sapiens, were introduced into an environment.

01:57:43.000 It's somewhere between 50 and 80% of the other species in 100 years were extinct.

01:57:48.000 It's just a natural side effect of sharing space with humans.

01:57:54.000 That's just what we do.

01:57:56.000 Well, I think it's also, because we figured out how to make these houses and get away from being eaten, We've gotten super ridiculous about the way we allocate resources, and we made way too many of us. 0.89

01:58:10.000 We're like rats on a sinking ship. 0.76

01:58:12.000 There's so many of us.

01:58:13.000 At this point, I kind of feel like holding on to my nostalgic...

01:58:19.000 Fishing, you know, experiences and things like that.

01:58:22.000 I just have to keep going forward and be like, all right, this is the new norm.

01:58:25.000 You know, you can't do this, you can't do this.

01:58:26.000 I think there's something else going on with fish.

01:58:29.000 There's a thing that's...

01:58:30.000 That's one example, though.

01:58:31.000 It is.

01:58:32.000 Like, just everything.

01:58:33.000 But I should say that in the culture of fly fishing, it's more common and respected to catch and release than I would say any other type of fishing.

01:58:44.000 Yeah.

01:58:45.000 I prefer spin real fishing.

01:58:47.000 I like eating when I catch.

01:58:50.000 I think it's something weird.

01:58:52.000 And I've gone catch and release fishing before.

01:58:54.000 I have done it before.

01:58:55.000 It is fun.

01:58:55.000 But there's something about catching and then eating it that day that's extremely satisfying.

01:59:01.000 And then also it's like, I know it's legal to catch and release.

01:59:04.000 I know it's legal.

01:59:05.000 But should it be?

01:59:07.000 I mean, what are you doing?

01:59:08.000 You're playing a little game? 0.98

01:59:09.000 I could have killed you, but I'm going to let you know. 0.75

01:59:12.000 You're playing unwilling jujitsu with some dudes in a parking lot. 1.00

01:59:20.000 You're just grabbing them. 1.00

01:59:21.000 I'm going to kill you. 1.00

01:59:22.000 I'm not. 1.00

01:59:22.000 Let you go. 1.00

01:59:23.000 Take care, buddy. 1.00

01:59:25.000 You've decided to fuck with that fish's day. 1.00

01:59:27.000 Don't they know? 1.00

01:59:28.000 They start to learn. 1.00

01:59:29.000 They're like, I'm not falling for that shit again. 1.00

01:59:31.000 They're not that smart. 1.00

01:59:32.000 We're assuming they're that smart.

01:59:34.000 I think if you make something that looks like a fly, they just jump on it.

01:59:39.000 I can relate.

01:59:40.000 There's a mask.

01:59:41.000 Do you jump on flies?

01:59:42.000 I bow to my instincts.

01:59:44.000 Fly fishing is badass.

01:59:45.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:59:46.000 It's an art form.

01:59:48.000 It's really interesting.

01:59:49.000 I've watched really good fly fishermen.

01:59:52.000 There's something about it where they're stripping that line.

01:59:54.000 They're gently plopping that cast.

01:59:56.000 There's something about it.

01:59:57.000 Let it hunt.

01:59:58.000 Let it hunt.

01:59:59.000 Oh, Johnny Stickfish.

02:00:00.000 Mend it upstream, let it hunt.

02:00:02.000 And the thing, well, I like fly fishing a lot.

02:00:05.000 I do prefer spin real fishing.

02:00:06.000 Is it just preference?

02:00:09.000 But it is.

02:00:11.000 It's like ballet.

02:00:12.000 It's like the ballet for the river.

02:00:13.000 Yeah.

02:00:14.000 Like hibachi grills.

02:00:16.000 Everybody has a different favorite kind of fishing.

02:00:19.000 My favorite kind of fishing was always bass fishing.

02:00:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:00:22.000 Because they're just such an American animal. 0.62

02:00:24.000 Its face is way too big. 0.92

02:00:25.000 It's got a giant mouth.

02:00:27.000 You mean a largemouth bass?

02:00:28.000 Yeah, a largemouth bass.

02:00:29.000 Even a smallmouth bass has a face that's way too big. 1.00

02:00:31.000 Smallmouth bass still has a big fucking mouth. 0.99

02:00:35.000 You know, it's relative. 1.00

02:00:38.000 It's all relative.

02:00:39.000 But that's an American kind of fishing.

02:00:44.000 You know, you're throwing a crankbait on a lily pad and you're pulling it off the lily pad and moving it through the water. 0.98

02:00:51.000 And you see this explosion of water and this fucking steroided bruiser. 0.97

02:00:56.000 That's what I like about it. 0.98

02:00:58.000 That's what I like about the spin reel.

02:00:59.000 And also, there's a little more variety, personally, for spin reel fishing.

02:01:02.000 You can, you know, fly fishing, you're on the surface, you're mostly catching trout.

02:01:07.000 Not, like, trout are great.

02:01:08.000 Love trout.

02:01:08.000 It's for rich white guys, let's be honest.

02:01:11.000 It's for a few weird lesbians and rich white guys. 1.00

02:01:13.000 Your words. 0.99

02:01:14.000 I cannot speak to this.

02:01:16.000 You're hilarious.

02:01:17.000 That's just doing it. 0.90

02:01:18.000 It's like guys who are looking for peace and quiet and doing shit their wife doesn't want to do. 0.98

02:01:22.000 They're putting on rubber pants and they're trying to get away from their wife. 0.99

02:01:26.000 Oh my god.

02:01:27.000 Peace and quiet out here.

02:01:29.000 Peace and quiet.

02:01:31.000 As they jerk off into the ravine.

02:01:33.000 Bass fishing is like you're listening to Johnny Cash songs drinking beer.

02:01:37.000 Yeah.

02:01:39.000 Casting.

02:01:39.000 Let's play a song.

02:01:40.000 Casting rubber worms.

02:01:41.000 I want to play a song.

02:01:42.000 What do you want to play?

02:01:43.000 I don't know.

02:01:43.000 What do you want to play?

02:01:44.000 Can I make a request?

02:01:46.000 Can I request LA River?

02:01:49.000 This is going to get sloppy.

02:01:50.000 No, okay.

02:01:52.000 I literally have to look up the lyrics.

02:01:54.000 Really?

02:01:56.000 That's your song.

02:01:57.000 I know.

02:01:57.000 You don't understand.

02:01:58.000 There's so many songs between them.

02:01:59.000 Okay, how about Angel of Death?

02:02:01.000 That would be super nostalgic.

02:02:03.000 Okay.

02:02:04.000 This is the song I first heard from you guys.

02:02:08.000 You got me three whiskeys in.

02:02:09.000 I was only supposed to have one.

02:02:10.000 How good is young Jamie?

02:02:11.000 I'm so good.

02:02:12.000 Busted out the lyrics.

02:02:13.000 Okay, let's give Joe both songs because he wants them.

02:02:15.000 He's got LA River queued up and ready to rock.

02:02:17.000 Are you pissed at me now?

02:02:20.000 This is such a...

02:02:21.000 Why are you guys...

02:02:21.000 Don't get insecure with each other on my show.

02:02:28.000 I hate that word, by the way.

02:02:29.000 I hate that word. 1.00

02:02:30.000 When people are talking about in this space, fuck you. 1.00

02:02:33.000 You're playing games. 1.00

02:02:34.000 You're playing games with words in this space.

02:02:37.000 What space is this?

02:02:38.000 This is Joe's space, Joe.

02:02:40.000 Space around the human race on Earth?

02:02:44.000 Ask me what show I'm obsessed with right now.

02:02:46.000 Space Force.

02:02:48.000 Are you really?

02:02:49.000 Oh, so good.

02:02:49.000 So good.

02:02:50.000 Okay, now I have to watch because I read a terrible review.

02:02:53.000 No, it's hilarious.

02:02:54.000 I'm not super feeling it. 1.00

02:02:55.000 Fuck you! 1.00

02:02:56.000 I'm just weighing in. 1.00

02:02:56.000 I think it's amazing. 1.00

02:02:58.000 Also, Ben Schwartz.

02:02:59.000 Bless him.

02:03:00.000 Big fan.

02:03:01.000 Big fan.

02:03:02.000 Just saying.

02:03:02.000 This is a range of opinion.

02:03:04.000 Can he have his own opinion?

02:03:06.000 Can our friend Ben have his own opinion?

02:03:08.000 Totally, totally.

02:03:09.000 Why did you shame his opinion? 0.95

02:03:11.000 Let me just abuse you in private. 1.00

02:03:13.000 But this is not about a critical issue.

02:03:15.000 This shows how tribal people are.

02:03:17.000 We're only talking about a television show about my face.

02:03:19.000 You're attacking so much.

02:03:20.000 You know what we're doing?

02:03:21.000 You know what we're doing?

02:03:21.000 You gotta make aggressive about his views on a sitcom.

02:03:25.000 Sit with it, sis. 0.92

02:03:25.000 First of all. 0.92

02:03:25.000 Sit with it. 0.92

02:03:26.000 Sit with it.

02:03:26.000 I'm gonna slur my words and I don't care.

02:03:30.000 I'm gonna tell you. 0.99

02:03:30.000 Bite him back. 0.99

02:03:31.000 The alcohol speaks.

02:03:32.000 We're really accepting our differences in a really healthy way.

02:03:35.000 Guys, don't fuck this up, Joe.

02:03:37.000 No, I'm here to help.

02:03:39.000 You know what?

02:03:39.000 No, no, no.

02:03:39.000 Listen, I test the waters.

02:03:41.000 You're allowed to not like Space Force.

02:03:42.000 You're allowed.

02:03:42.000 What's that?

02:03:42.000 You're allowed to not like?

02:03:43.000 Well, of course.

02:03:44.000 I respect that.

02:03:45.000 I feel like I can't even watch it now because I love both of you and I don't want to pick a side.

02:03:50.000 No, see, you can feel however you feel, though, Joe.

02:03:53.000 That's the thing. 0.99

02:03:53.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99

02:03:54.000 I'm going to listen to Suzanne. 0.99

02:03:55.000 No.

02:03:56.000 Wait a second.

02:03:57.000 I'm going to try not to mess this up.

02:03:58.000 I'm really slurring my words.

02:04:00.000 I'm going to listen to Suzanne on everything other than Space Force. 0.88

02:04:03.000 And that's all that's important to me, which is weird, but...

02:04:06.000 It's weird.

02:04:07.000 You got one of your candles here.

02:04:08.000 Hold on.

02:04:09.000 I don't think he's lit it.

02:04:10.000 Big Lebowski.

02:04:11.000 Big Lebowski.

02:04:13.000 Big Lebowski, yes or no?

02:04:14.000 Great film.

02:04:15.000 100%.

02:04:15.000 Love it.

02:04:16.000 Obsessed.

02:04:16.000 You can be my friend.

02:04:19.000 That's what it took.

02:04:20.000 How deep in our...

02:04:21.000 Is this like an hour and a half, two hours?

02:04:23.000 How are we doing?

02:04:23.000 It's four o'clock.

02:04:25.000 Ken, why are you keeping time?

02:04:26.000 Because I'm about to smoke weed. 1.00

02:04:27.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:04:28.000 Can we play first? 1.00

02:04:30.000 Otherwise, things get weird.

02:04:32.000 Angel of Death?

02:04:33.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:34.000 Angel of Death.

02:04:37.000 You don't have to play first. 1.00

02:04:39.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:04:40.000 No, I can't believe it. 1.00

02:04:41.000 Joe, fuck it. 1.00

02:04:42.000 This is bad. 1.00

02:04:43.000 I'm so scared.

02:04:44.000 That's that Elon Musk weed, son. 1.00

02:04:45.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:04:46.000 What do you mean when you say that? 1.00

02:04:47.000 He smoked it or he made it?

02:04:49.000 He smoked that when he figured out how to connect that SpaceX thing to the space station.

02:04:54.000 No.

02:04:55.000 What?

02:04:55.000 This is the stuff that killed his stock by 6%.

02:04:57.000 He'll be fine.

02:05:00.000 It didn't really.

02:05:01.000 He bounced back instantly.

02:05:02.000 It's just people panicking.

02:05:03.000 Marijuana!

02:05:04.000 He's a super genius!

02:05:06.000 We should go with a raise deck because it's so much higher now than it was then.

02:05:08.000 Way higher.

02:05:09.000 Yes.

02:05:09.000 Well, I think every time he talks in long form, his stock goes up.

02:05:15.000 He's just got to understand who he is.

02:05:17.000 Trust me.

02:05:18.000 Okay?

02:05:18.000 Don't trust me on everything, but trust me.

02:05:21.000 Leave that guy alone. 0.90

02:05:22.000 Leave that guy alone. 0.90

02:05:23.000 Give him all the encouragement you can. 1.00

02:05:26.000 He's doing crazy shit. 0.99

02:05:28.000 He's not trying to harm anybody. 1.00

02:05:29.000 He's trying to build tunnels that shoot you all the way to Las Vegas.

02:05:34.000 He's trying to make electric cars that go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds.

02:05:38.000 He's trying to put us on Mars.

02:05:41.000 Positive support.

02:05:42.000 Keep helping him.

02:05:44.000 Don't troll Elon Musk.

02:05:46.000 I'm not!

02:05:46.000 Anybody who does that, like, please!

02:05:49.000 I know you can!

02:05:50.000 He's about to quit Twitter again! 1.00

02:05:52.000 You fucks! 1.00

02:05:53.000 No! 1.00

02:05:53.000 No, no, no! 1.00

02:05:54.000 Am I right?

02:05:55.000 Yeah!

02:05:56.000 He's about to quit Twitter again! 1.00

02:05:58.000 Leave him alone, you fucks! 1.00

02:06:00.000 Save him, Joe! 1.00

02:06:00.000 Joe, if there's anyone who can save him, it's you! 1.00

02:06:05.000 Well, I don't know how much he listens to me. 1.00

02:06:08.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:06:09.000 I wouldn't listen to me if I was him. 1.00

02:06:10.000 If I was him, it would be like, if my ten-year-old came to me with some really good advice... 1.00

02:06:15.000 I'd have to put that shit through a long filter. 1.00

02:06:18.000 A ten-year-old? 1.00

02:06:20.000 So you're Elon's ten-year-old?

02:06:22.000 Exactly!

02:06:22.000 Got it.

02:06:23.000 Same thing.

02:06:24.000 Basically the same thing.

02:06:25.000 If I come to him with an idea, he's going to be like, oh, cool.

02:06:28.000 Yeah, call you back.

02:06:30.000 He's so chill.

02:06:31.000 I listened to the last podcast and he's just so calm.

02:06:34.000 He's a good guy.

02:06:35.000 I enjoy being in his presence.

02:06:37.000 He's a very nice person.

02:06:40.000 And there was a weird moment, like the first podcast we did where I asked him, I said, I go, what is going on in your head?

02:06:46.000 I go, what is it like being you?

02:06:49.000 Because I could tell.

02:06:50.000 You can tell when you're talking to him.

02:06:52.000 It's almost like you're talking to someone who had... 0.90

02:06:55.000 If you imagine that the mind is like every other part of the body, we've all seen people that have ridiculous body parts, right? 0.98

02:07:05.000 We've all seen people that were born with enormous breasts, right? 1.00

02:07:09.000 Don't I know it!

02:07:10.000 How crazy is that it?

02:07:11.000 That's just a random.

02:07:13.000 Right, right, right. 1.00

02:07:14.000 Some dudes are born with enormous noses, enormous feet, enormous dicks. 0.99

02:07:17.000 It's just weird, random. 0.99

02:07:19.000 You've got to think the same thing happens with the brain.

02:07:21.000 Big toes.

02:07:21.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

02:07:22.000 Sometimes the brain comes out just some supercharged, 1,000 horsepower, hybrid engine, and you're like, holy shit. 0.99

02:07:30.000 Let them drill. 1.00

02:07:31.000 Let them drill! 0.98

02:07:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:07:33.000 Let him get us to Mars!

02:07:34.000 You can't get to Mars, Marty!

02:07:36.000 Let him get us to Mars!

02:07:39.000 That's what it's like.

02:07:40.000 That's how I feel with that guy.

02:07:42.000 I'm like, just be nice to him. 0.99

02:07:43.000 Be nice to him and let him do whatever the fuck he wants. 0.97

02:07:47.000 I listened to some of that podcast too, and it was interesting to see because he said something that stuck with me. 0.99

02:07:53.000 You're talking about his decision to sell all his houses.

02:07:58.000 And he says people see that as an attack vector.

02:08:01.000 And I was like, dang.

02:08:03.000 That says a lot about his narrative and his feel of the world.

02:08:07.000 He's the real deal, folks.

02:08:09.000 You gotta listen to me.

02:08:10.000 He'll go down in history.

02:08:11.000 He's not a perfect person.

02:08:12.000 No one is.

02:08:13.000 He does flare up.

02:08:14.000 He got mad at that guy who was criticizing him in that Thailand thing and he got sued for it.

02:08:18.000 No one who's human is perfect.

02:08:21.000 But he's trying to do amazing things for technology, for the environment, for the human race, for the propagation of the species.

02:08:30.000 Like, he really thinks that we need to plan ahead and make colonies on Mars so that the human race can survive.

02:08:37.000 Because he doesn't think it could totally survive on Earth.

02:08:40.000 He's like, there's a high likelihood that something can go wrong.

02:08:43.000 And he's right.

02:08:44.000 When you see what happened with the pandemic, that was a minor, that was a dress rehearsal for a real event.

02:08:49.000 And we failed miserably.

02:08:51.000 We panicked.

02:08:52.000 There was no talk of the immune system.

02:08:54.000 All the talk was like, oh, protect yourself!

02:08:56.000 Put a mask on!

02:08:57.000 Rubbing gloves!

02:08:59.000 Sanitize!

02:09:00.000 There was all this crazy talk.

02:09:01.000 And then at the end of that, emerging, we're realizing this is not correct.

02:09:07.000 They all had probably our best interests in mind.

02:09:10.000 But human beings are human. 1.00

02:09:11.000 They fuck up. 0.99

02:09:13.000 They're not right all the time. 1.00

02:09:15.000 We're all trying to figure this out together. 0.99

02:09:17.000 When is it going to be okay to have that When is it going to be okay to fuck up? 0.99

02:09:21.000 It just appears to not be okay. 0.99

02:09:23.000 You have to be honest.

02:09:24.000 We can just do it anyway.

02:09:25.000 It doesn't matter if you're not.

02:09:27.000 You have to be honest and you have to stay away from any sort of forum where someone can judge you in a dishonest way.

02:09:34.000 So if you're honest and someone is judging you on Twitter, if they're saying something to you and type on Twitter something mean and nasty to you.

02:09:41.000 Like we were talking about earlier before about people who are bullies.

02:09:45.000 And people who are bullies like send you things and like...

02:09:48.000 When someone does something like that, it's a function of the limitations of the system that you're working in.

02:09:57.000 You're working in this weird thing where you're agreeing to type things.

02:10:01.000 You're not even saying them.

02:10:02.000 You're just writing it out and putting a period there.

02:10:05.000 I don't even know what the sound your voice was making.

02:10:09.000 You've broken things down to some real weird thing.

02:10:11.000 And also there's no accountability for what you're saying.

02:10:13.000 You can't say in front of me, like, you told me you would take me to the moon. 1.00

02:10:17.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

02:10:18.000 You know what I'm saying? 0.99

02:10:39.000 Maybe like a hundred people over the weekend just like via voice message and video message and Every conversation I had whether I was met with adverse opinions Was peaceful and like because we got to hear each other's voices and I don't want to fight with anybody like that There was a rule of like if you're gonna be nasty I'm not gonna respond to you But if you want to talk to me about your opinions and the the progress that I felt like I was I made for myself just in trying to understand things that I could never understand because It

02:11:11.000 was so valuable.

02:11:13.000 But per what you just said, I got to hear people's voices and look into their eyes and talk to them.

02:11:20.000 Complete strangers.

02:11:21.000 And it felt like something to do.

02:11:24.000 That wasn't just reposting things, and that has its purpose as well, but I got to actually talk to people that had something to say, and it was great. 0.55

02:11:35.000 And all the trolls that like to comment without having any, like, you're not going to fucking get anywhere, I didn't hear from those people.

02:11:43.000 I really wanted to. 0.95

02:11:44.000 That's a good forum though.

02:11:45.000 You're actually talking.

02:11:46.000 You're talking, they're talking.

02:11:48.000 That's a good forum.

02:11:49.000 Even if you're doing that just like a FaceTime thing.

02:11:52.000 It wasn't exhausting either.

02:11:54.000 I had all this energy afterwards.

02:11:56.000 I felt fueled.

02:11:57.000 I was inspired.

02:11:58.000 I didn't...

02:11:58.000 Like, if you're gonna hate on me...

02:12:00.000 Sorry.

02:12:01.000 See you later.

02:12:02.000 But if you want to try and meet in the middle, that's where something is going to get done.

02:12:08.000 I posted a couple things and people are so angry.

02:12:12.000 What did you post that got people angry?

02:12:14.000 I posted a few things.

02:12:15.000 I posted...

02:12:17.000 All Lives Matter?

02:12:18.000 No. 1.00

02:12:18.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:12:19.000 I posted a photo. 1.00

02:12:22.000 You dick. 1.00

02:12:25.000 Could you imagine? 1.00

02:12:27.000 No!

02:12:28.000 Yes, I can! 1.00

02:12:29.000 Could you imagine if I ran up to you in like 1995 and I said, listen, one day if you write All Lives Matter, people will kick your ass. 1.00

02:12:41.000 That is hilarious. 1.00

02:12:42.000 That is fucking nuts. 0.99

02:12:44.000 I keep thinking about that. 0.99

02:12:46.000 If you'd have told me when I was a kid that, like, in 2020, we're gonna...

02:12:49.000 I'd be like, that's weird.

02:12:51.000 Just imagine that phrase. 1.00

02:12:53.000 Imagine a fucking Orwellian reality where that phrase could get your ass kicked. 1.00

02:12:58.000 You're like, wait, what? 1.00

02:12:59.000 What?

02:13:00.000 What?

02:13:01.000 For real?

02:13:02.000 It's where we're at.

02:13:04.000 Well, our language is changing, you know?

02:13:06.000 Yes.

02:13:07.000 But we have to be careful because the same way cops have power, people who want to control your language have power.

02:13:12.000 It's all power.

02:13:13.000 We shouldn't have magic words.

02:13:15.000 Words should convey intent.

02:13:17.000 And as soon as you have some words that have an extra abracadabra to them, they get abused.

02:13:23.000 Any kind of magic word, any forbidden word.

02:13:25.000 I'm against forbidden words.

02:13:27.000 I'm not against the sentiment that's attached to good or bad words.

02:13:32.000 I want you to be able to accurately express yourself so I can't play games with what you're saying. 0.73

02:13:38.000 So you say something to me and it seems valid, but then you say the word pussy or something like that, oh, well, now I discredit everything you said because you said a magic word that you can't use in my accepted version of speech. 0.95

02:13:50.000 That's what I'm worried about. 0.90

02:13:51.000 I'm worried it's a sneaky backdoor for people to control conversations and pretend they understand what your intent is.

02:13:57.000 Language is supposed to just be noises.

02:13:59.000 You just have to have so much patience.

02:14:01.000 And that brings me back to Elon Musk.

02:14:03.000 One of the things that he said was that you're going to be able to talk without using words.

02:14:06.000 That he did say that. 0.98

02:14:07.000 He's gonna drill holes in people's heads and shoot wires in there. 0.99

02:14:10.000 No, I like talking. 0.98

02:14:12.000 I just love talking.

02:14:13.000 It's like the acoustic guitar.

02:14:15.000 Call me old-fashioned.

02:14:16.000 Talking is like the acoustic guitar of communication.

02:14:20.000 No need.

02:14:21.000 Well, we do that stuff all the time anyway.

02:14:23.000 We need acoustic guitars, my point.

02:14:25.000 Oh my god.

02:14:26.000 You heard it here, people.

02:14:28.000 You thought they were gone to back.

02:14:29.000 Yes.

02:14:30.000 You know, some people really enjoy traditional archery.

02:14:33.000 They want to shoot a bow.

02:14:34.000 Totally do. 1.00

02:14:35.000 Like fucking Robin Hood. 1.00

02:14:37.000 You never shot a bow? 1.00

02:14:38.000 No, but can I? Yes.

02:14:39.000 You know why you should?

02:14:40.000 Because you look like you could be Geena Davis's daughter.

02:14:45.000 She's beautiful.

02:14:47.000 Geena Davis is beautiful.

02:14:48.000 I know.

02:14:48.000 I love her.

02:14:49.000 When I was an actor, I remember auditioning for a part for her daughter and I didn't get it.

02:14:53.000 I was good.

02:14:53.000 I was good enough.

02:14:54.000 I was good enough, those idiots. 1.00

02:14:55.000 100% you could be Geena Davis's daughter. 1.00

02:14:58.000 And Geena Davis is a serious archer. 0.99

02:15:01.000 What?!

02:15:01.000 Yes!

02:15:02.000 Like, really, really good.

02:15:03.000 Cool.

02:15:04.000 Like, amazing.

02:15:05.000 Dope.

02:15:05.000 Like, there's videos of her online.

02:15:07.000 She got obsessed with archery.

02:15:09.000 She was learning it for, I believe it was a film role.

02:15:12.000 And so she got really obsessed with archery. 1.00

02:15:15.000 That pirate shit. 1.00

02:15:15.000 Remember that pirate one? 1.00

02:15:17.000 What?

02:15:17.000 Okay, moving on, moving on.

02:15:19.000 There's so many movies, man.

02:15:20.000 I told you about Zoolander.

02:15:21.000 You know, the pirate.

02:15:22.000 No, it wasn't Zoolander.

02:15:24.000 I just only remember so much.

02:15:26.000 But it was another movie.

02:15:27.000 I only have so much room, Ben.

02:15:28.000 Forget I said the pirate thing.

02:15:31.000 I loved her in The Fly.

02:15:33.000 The Fly.

02:15:34.000 Jeff Goldblum.

02:15:34.000 The Jeff Goldblum Fly is one of the greatest horror movies of all time.

02:15:38.000 When people talk about horror movies, there she is.

02:15:40.000 She's re... 0.99

02:15:41.000 I'm telling you.

02:15:41.000 Get out of here.

02:15:42.000 Look at this!

02:15:42.000 At 41, landed in the U.S. Olympic trials!

02:15:46.000 Wow.

02:15:47.000 Just before the 2000 Games in Sydney.

02:15:49.000 Gina, I love you.

02:15:49.000 She said she did it on a whim and became obsessed with it.

02:15:52.000 60-year-old actress admits... 1.00

02:15:54.000 A League of Their Own is one of my favorite movies.

02:15:56.000 Dude, she's amazing. 1.00

02:15:57.000 Hey, Thelma and Louise, step the fuck off. 1.00

02:15:59.000 Hey, what? 0.99

02:16:00.000 How about that video?

02:16:01.000 Can't we agree that I also love that movie?

02:16:02.000 It's a video of Gina Davis doing archery.

02:16:04.000 But you gotta see how she does it.

02:16:07.000 Sometimes someone who's a badass at one thing will get really interested in something else.

02:16:12.000 And it's interesting that you see...

02:16:14.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:16:15.000 Bro, Gina Davis is a fucking serious archer. 1.00

02:16:18.000 Like you watch her. 1.00

02:16:20.000 Look at this form!

02:16:22.000 That is very Suze-ish. 1.00

02:16:24.000 Look at this! 1.00

02:16:25.000 She's shooting a fucking arrow through three balls! 1.00

02:16:27.000 And she's dressed in the peaches uniform! 1.00

02:16:29.000 Suck my dick! 1.00

02:16:30.000 That's a league of their own! 1.00

02:16:31.000 It's back. 0.93

02:16:32.000 And not only that, she shot that dude in the head. 1.00

02:16:35.000 She doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:16:36.000 It's a rubber dude. 1.00

02:16:37.000 Relentless.

02:16:38.000 But she's also doing traditional archery.

02:16:42.000 And what I mean by that is she doesn't have... 0.96

02:16:44.000 She's got a gun. 1.00

02:16:46.000 She's got a gun, too. 1.00

02:16:47.000 Don't fuck with Jeannie Davis. 1.00

02:16:49.000 But she uses a recurve, so it's not a compound bow. 1.00

02:16:55.000 A compound bow, like what a lot of bow hunters use...

02:16:57.000 Is she wearing a mustache?

02:16:58.000 That's like an old-school bow.

02:17:01.000 That's a modern version of an old-school bow.

02:17:05.000 And she just shoots it again? 0.99

02:17:07.000 She's releasing it.

02:17:07.000 Oh, she's going Gallagher.

02:17:09.000 Hilarious.

02:17:11.000 Anyway, shout out to Gina Davis. 1.00

02:17:13.000 That's so cool!

02:17:14.000 Yeah, she got into archery and she found out that a lot of people, what a lot of people found out ever since, I mean, the beginning of time, there's something really weird.

02:17:23.000 It's really satisfying about releasing an arrow and watching it land on a target.

02:17:27.000 It doesn't have to be, you could be a total vegan and enjoy archery.

02:17:30.000 Archery is a sport for everyone just like yoga.

02:17:33.000 There's something to it.

02:17:34.000 So good.

02:17:34.000 Like fishing.

02:17:36.000 When you catch a fish, you know how you catch a fish and it taps into some sort of ancient DNA? It's the same thing with archery.

02:17:43.000 There's something about, when you watch that arrow, but I think it has to do with the fact that throughout human history, for like thousands of years, that was the best way to kill your dinner.

02:17:54.000 You had to have a bow and arrow until they figured out guns. 1.00

02:17:56.000 So that shit is still in our system. 0.99

02:17:58.000 See, I think it's a tension release thing. 1.00

02:18:00.000 I think that's a natural human.

02:18:02.000 We're attracted to that in everything, in so much of our communication.

02:18:05.000 Back to music.

02:18:06.000 Boom.

02:18:07.000 So much of communication in music is just tension and release.

02:18:10.000 I think that as well.

02:18:11.000 But I think there's many factors at play.

02:18:13.000 But I think one of the factors is the DNA. For sure, one of the factors is that too.

02:18:18.000 I think there's a lot of factors.

02:18:19.000 There's also the complexity, like the game, the puzzle factor.

02:18:23.000 Like one of the things that people like about catching a fish is the same thing they like about beating someone at sorry.

02:18:29.000 It's like, you know what I'm saying?

02:18:31.000 Like, you want to win the game. 1.00

02:18:32.000 I want to, come on, bitch. 1.00

02:18:33.000 Come on, bitch. 1.00

02:18:33.000 Take the bank. 1.00

02:18:35.000 Gotcha! 1.00

02:18:36.000 Motherfucker! 1.00

02:18:39.000 Totally! 1.00

02:18:40.000 That's what it is.

02:18:41.000 There's a little game you're playing.

02:18:41.000 There's a strategy involved.

02:18:42.000 Yeah, there's a skill set.

02:18:44.000 Yeah.

02:18:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:18:46.000 It all taps into our human reward system that is designed to reward us for the behavior that makes us more likely to survive, particularly when we're living in a place where we can get eaten, which is most of the human history.

02:19:02.000 The eaten days.

02:19:02.000 I think the eaten days are a big part of our DNA. I think that's a big...

02:19:06.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:06.000 Yeah, of course.

02:19:07.000 Our fear response and all that.

02:19:09.000 Fight and fight.

02:19:09.000 You know, there's a guy named Rupert Sheldrake that was talking about this, and one of the things he was saying is that...

02:19:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:19:18.000 Morphic Resonance.

02:19:20.000 We were on tour with Jake Bugg and his tour manager was obsessed with Rupert Sheldrake.

02:19:25.000 And he was talking about these...

02:19:26.000 Sorry, I should...

02:19:27.000 No, I was just gonna say that one other thing that he said that's really fascinating.

02:19:30.000 He said that things have a memory to them and that he believes that maybe even objects have memory to them.

02:19:38.000 And one of the things that he was talking about is that children...

02:19:40.000 Children who live in New York City, they're not afraid of child molesters or car accidents.

02:19:47.000 They're afraid of monsters.

02:19:50.000 They're all afraid of monsters because we used to have- Define monsters.

02:19:53.000 Cats.

02:19:54.000 Big cats.

02:19:55.000 That's what everybody was afraid of.

02:19:56.000 Everybody's afraid of the thing in the dark that gets you.

02:19:58.000 Because that's what kept killing people all throughout history.

02:20:02.000 That's where all the werewolf movies come from, that the wolves are so smart they must be part human.

02:20:08.000 They're really smart.

02:20:09.000 Wolves are really smart and they ate people forever until we figured out how to make houses.

02:20:12.000 They just ate us.

02:20:13.000 And all these things are, well they are dogs, but all these things are programmed into us.

02:20:19.000 And you don't realize that until you're out actually in the woods and all those things are turned on again.

02:20:24.000 It's like, kick on system three, four and five! 1.00

02:20:28.000 Like three, four and five, this bitch lives in the Bronx! 1.00

02:20:31.000 Coyotes near Griffith Park. 1.00

02:20:32.000 I live near Griffith Park.

02:20:33.000 And I saw one maybe a hundred yards away. 1.00

02:20:36.000 Couldn't give a fuck. 0.99

02:20:37.000 No, it bayed. 1.00

02:20:38.000 It went off.

02:20:38.000 What?

02:20:39.000 And the hairs on the back of my neck.

02:20:41.000 It was a feeling I hadn't felt before.

02:20:43.000 I've never seen a wolf in the wild.

02:20:44.000 Did you thirst for its blood?

02:20:46.000 I offered my blood as a sign of compassion.

02:20:50.000 That's weird.

02:20:51.000 I've never seen a wolf in the wild that I'm absolutely sure of.

02:20:54.000 I saw one.

02:20:55.000 I was with my friend Cam Haynes in Alberta.

02:20:57.000 We saw one walking across this dirt road.

02:20:59.000 We're pretty sure it was a wolf.

02:21:01.000 It was pretty big.

02:21:02.000 It was like dog-sized.

02:21:03.000 Yeah.

02:21:04.000 You know, which is like, when you get to anywhere around dog size, like 70, 80 pounds, you know you're not dealing with a coyote anymore, probably.

02:21:10.000 Especially in the woods.

02:21:11.000 And there's a lot of wolves up there. 0.74

02:21:14.000 But that's, if there's any animal that I would love to, like, if I could just fucking follow them around with a drone, and just watch them live their lives without me having any idea I was there. 0.92

02:21:24.000 Just watch a wolf for a week. 0.97

02:21:26.000 You know?

02:21:26.000 Yeah!

02:21:27.000 That would give you a sense of what, we have this fucking... 0.99

02:21:32.000 Weird Pixar ideology when it comes to wildlife. 0.97

02:21:38.000 Even if you're watching a documentary, how close were you?

02:21:43.000 Where are these animals?

02:21:45.000 Our instincts have been muted.

02:21:47.000 We are in a digital age of self-obsession, narcissism, and kids don't play outside anymore.

02:21:55.000 The population...

02:22:00.000 The population for like, you know, ranch life or getting to integrate with nature and your own instincts is very small.

02:22:08.000 Very small.

02:22:08.000 You know, and back to New York, you know, talking about people not fearing getting hit by a car, you know, all that stuff.

02:22:14.000 Like, it's a product of environment and our environments are so...

02:22:19.000 They're so digital.

02:22:21.000 And I think about my childhood a lot and how, like, you know, we just went and played outside.

02:22:26.000 I grew up outside Cleveland in the suburbs.

02:22:29.000 And, you know, there'd be, like, a bunch of kids.

02:22:33.000 And, you know, you'd get hurt.

02:22:34.000 You'd get stitches.

02:22:35.000 You'd get cut or whatever.

02:22:36.000 But we were creative.

02:22:37.000 Like, I never wore shoes for, like, months at a time in the summer.

02:22:40.000 Oh, you got hookworm.

02:22:42.000 Probably.

02:22:43.000 You got that hookworm. 1.00

02:22:45.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:22:46.000 I never got hookworms. 1.00

02:22:47.000 I never got head lice or hookworms, so thank you very much. 0.99

02:22:51.000 You know that makes people dumb? 0.98

02:22:53.000 No, does it? 1.00

02:22:54.000 Hookworm?

02:22:54.000 Oh, dude.

02:22:55.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:22:55.000 I hate to do this again because we just talked about it last week. 0.99

02:22:58.000 Don't scare me because I got cats and I was so afraid of the parasites.

02:23:01.000 No, no, that's different.

02:23:01.000 That's toxoplasmosis.

02:23:02.000 I know.

02:23:03.000 But hookworms, this is a real thing, and I'm sorry for anybody who's heard this before, but I have to bring it up again. 0.98

02:23:08.000 Hookworms are responsible for the stereotype of the dumb southerner. 0.98

02:23:12.000 Really? 1.00

02:23:12.000 Come on. 1.00

02:23:13.000 No, for real. 0.99

02:23:14.000 That's because they didn't fucking wash their hands. 0.99

02:23:16.000 No, no, no. 0.99

02:23:16.000 It had nothing to do with that. 0.99

02:23:17.000 It was walking barefoot.

02:23:19.000 Stop it.

02:23:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:23:20.000 Walking barefoot.

02:23:21.000 People were infected by hookworms.

02:23:23.000 And hookworms are a parasite that affects brain function.

02:23:26.000 Okay.

02:23:27.000 It drains people with their energy. 1.00

02:23:29.000 And pull this shit up. 1.00

02:23:31.000 Uh-oh. 1.00

02:23:31.000 Do I have hookworms? 1.00

02:23:32.000 Because it freaked you out.

02:23:33.000 It thrives in regions of extreme poverty.

02:23:36.000 Poor sanitation affects some 740 million people worldwide.

02:23:39.000 That's a lot of people.

02:23:41.000 Hookworm.

02:23:43.000 Just Google hookworm.

02:23:45.000 Do I have hookworm?

02:23:46.000 What do I do? 1.00

02:23:48.000 Dumb southern stereotype. 1.00

02:23:50.000 Google that real quick. 1.00

02:23:52.000 Oh, here it is.

02:23:53.000 How a worm gave the South a bad name.

02:23:56.000 So this is really all about...

02:23:58.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.73

02:23:59.000 If you've heard this before and you're like, Joe, I'm gonna fucking know this story.

02:24:03.000 Bro, I love you. 0.91

02:24:04.000 You gotta listen.

02:24:05.000 There's a lot of people listening to this podcast that haven't heard this. 0.99

02:24:08.000 And this is like really important shit. 0.98

02:24:10.000 There's reasons for some stereotypes. 0.99

02:24:12.000 And when you're like, hey, well, Trump's gonna get us through this. 0.99

02:24:16.000 And you're doing a dumb southern accent. 1.00

02:24:17.000 You must be on the hookworm. 1.00

02:24:19.000 This is why you're doing a dumb southern accent. 0.99

02:24:21.000 Because there's a prejudice that we have. 0.99

02:24:24.000 Sometimes my toes itch.

02:24:25.000 Oh, no.

02:24:26.000 But listen, this happened, it was up to 40% of the population, stretching from like Texas to, scroll down a little bit, Texas to West population stretching from Southern Texas to West Virginia. 0.97

02:24:41.000 Hookworms stymied development throughout the region and bred stereotypes about lazy moronic southerners.

02:24:48.000 While the South eventually rid itself of hookworms, those parasites cost the region decades of development and bred widespread misconception about the people who lived there. 0.60

02:24:59.000 Yet hookworm has not been defeated for good.

02:25:03.000 Today, hundreds of millions of people in dozens of nations around the world suffer from hookworm infection.

02:25:09.000 The South's experience, measured in both successes and pitfalls, can provide a rough blueprint of how to seek out and quash this American murderer no matter where it's found around the world. 0.97

02:25:22.000 Imagine that.

02:25:23.000 Imagine that that literally...

02:25:25.000 Every time I hear things like this, I'm like, I have hookworm. 1.00

02:25:28.000 Ah, fuck! 1.00

02:25:29.000 Slow down. 1.00

02:25:30.000 Let's pause this and think about this.

02:25:32.000 Can we pause, please?

02:25:32.000 Just imagine all the stereotypes we have about the South.

02:25:36.000 Why would it be dumb to live in a place where it doesn't snow? 1.00

02:25:39.000 Why are they dumb? 1.00

02:25:41.000 That's fair. 0.99

02:25:42.000 That's totally a solid point, sir. 0.99

02:25:44.000 All those fucking people in Minneapolis and Illinois, they're fine. 0.99

02:25:48.000 But they don't have hookworm. 1.00

02:25:50.000 Right. 1.00

02:25:50.000 There's fucking something stupid about people that live where it never snows. 1.00

02:25:53.000 You assholes can't even get out of your driveway until you've shoveled that bitch. 1.00

02:25:58.000 And then you're driving on this bullshit-ass slippery road. 1.00

02:26:02.000 And you want to say this dude who lives in a place with alligators is dumb? 1.00

02:26:05.000 Come on. 1.00

02:26:06.000 Are you sure?

02:26:07.000 A lot of other factors, though, too, Joe.

02:26:08.000 This might be the big factor.

02:26:10.000 What are the factors, Ben?

02:26:10.000 Other factors in the South, as far as?

02:26:12.000 We don't have to get into that.

02:26:14.000 No, no, but take out all that other stuff.

02:26:16.000 Reconstruction, slavery, you know, all that.

02:26:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:26:18.000 But 100% I wanted to hear.

02:26:20.000 But listen, this is one of the things that I really want.

02:26:22.000 I think they might be connected.

02:26:25.000 Sure.

02:26:26.000 If that many people down there had it.

02:26:29.000 I think it's really likely that it affected their ability to decide what's right and wrong where the rest of the world had moved on.

02:26:35.000 I think there's a real argument for that.

02:26:37.000 I think that's absolutely worth exploring.

02:26:42.000 Yeah.

02:26:42.000 But there's, you know, cultures around the world who have had slavery that weren't connected.

02:26:47.000 But still do.

02:26:48.000 Or maybe still do.

02:26:50.000 For sure.

02:26:51.000 So there's just something in humans where they're able to adapt to the situation.

02:26:55.000 It says hookworms aren't endemic to America's, having likely arrived in the U.S. in the 17th century, unwittingly imported with the Atlantic slave trade.

02:27:04.000 What the heck?

02:27:05.000 Until the early 20th century, however, most in the U.S. did not know what a hookworm was.

02:27:10.000 How do you get it?

02:27:12.000 That millions of those parasites inhabited the guts of people throughout the South. 0.93

02:27:17.000 So you get it from not wearing shoes?

02:27:19.000 Hookworm symptoms were written off as simply being indicative of Southerners' backward character.

02:27:25.000 That's crazy.

02:27:26.000 That's crazy.

02:27:27.000 Because you really have to stop and think about it. 1.00

02:27:29.000 Like, oh, those people in the South are dumb. 1.00

02:27:31.000 Why? 1.00

02:27:31.000 They're people. 1.00

02:27:32.000 People are smart as fuck. 0.99

02:27:33.000 People figure out how to put satellites in space that lets you get better VCR or whatever. 0.99

02:27:40.000 They docked on the space station!

02:27:42.000 So we can watch Zoolander!

02:27:43.000 They're living in the sky!

02:27:44.000 Oh my god. 1.00

02:27:45.000 They're living in the sky for a year, you fuck! 1.00

02:27:49.000 Some people are dumb as shit, but some people aren't. 1.00

02:27:51.000 Why? 1.00

02:27:52.000 Well, a big part of it might be these fucking parasites. 1.00

02:27:55.000 We might have a fucked up view of human beings. 1.00

02:27:59.000 We might be behind the curve. 0.99

02:28:02.000 God, this is blowing my mind.

02:28:03.000 It's like...

02:28:04.000 No, I'm just like...

02:28:05.000 Question.

02:28:07.000 How do you get hookworm?

02:28:11.000 Just walking around.

02:28:13.000 You can get it from a lot of places.

02:28:14.000 Through your skin?

02:28:15.000 Yeah, it goes through your skin.

02:28:16.000 It's transdermal.

02:28:17.000 It's transdermal?

02:28:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:19.000 There's a lot of...

02:28:20.000 What you said, poor sanitation and stuff like that?

02:28:23.000 Sure.

02:28:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:24.000 Poor sanitation.

02:28:25.000 Look, throughout history, here it goes, contracted by direct contact with feces, as unseemly in the South, unsurprisingly, wanted no association with such a disease.

02:28:36.000 Oh my gosh.

02:28:37.000 So they just kind of buried it.

02:28:38.000 No, it says they're not on board in the beginning.

02:28:40.000 Yeah, the idea of hookworms, parasites that live within the body and are contracted by direct contact with feces.

02:28:45.000 So they tried because they're proud.

02:28:47.000 They're proud people.

02:28:48.000 Look, there's a thing that I listened to.

02:28:50.000 I think it was on...

02:28:52.000 I forget the podcast, it might have been NPR, Radio Lab, where they were talking about the South, and one of the reasons why the South is what it is, is they have this sort of honor tradition, and it's like a different way of looking, based on the people that initially...

02:29:10.000 Like the Scotch-Irish? 0.89

02:29:10.000 Yeah, based on the people that initially arrived in that area, and there's so many factors, and again, you could take this out of context and say I'm some sort of an apologist for racists. 0.89

02:29:21.000 I'm not, but I think you absolutely have to think that all those people down there, whether it's the people that were the slaves, the people that are slave owners, all those people, most likely had a lot, there was a giant percentage of those people that had that hookworm,

02:29:38.000 and who knows how much that affected Just the whole region, the culture.

02:29:43.000 There's always gonna be a problem when someone can force someone to work for free, right?

02:29:47.000 And that's what slavery is, right?

02:29:48.000 You're forcing someone to work for free, you're controlling them, you're owning them.

02:29:50.000 There's always gonna be a problem with that. 1.00

02:29:52.000 People always have a problem if they can get away with shit. 1.00

02:29:54.000 If they can get away with shit, they'll fucking do it. 1.00

02:29:57.000 But if they can get away with shit, and also they're dumb, and also they're like, their brains are depleted by a parasite. 1.00

02:30:03.000 They're impaired by this thing. 1.00

02:30:04.000 So the rest of the world is saying, hey man, maybe we shouldn't have slaves anymore. 0.99

02:30:07.000 They're like, I'm gonna fucking fight for what's right. 0.99

02:30:10.000 I'm a fat little, it's mine! 1.00

02:30:14.000 They got a fucking 69 Charger, Confederate flag belt buckle. 1.00

02:30:19.000 Fuck the Charger! 1.00

02:30:20.000 Watch the Chargers go down! 1.00

02:30:24.000 No, listen, I'm a giant Mopar fan.

02:30:29.000 Everybody knows that.

02:30:30.000 That's a dope car, but that's the Dukes of Hazzard car with the Confederate flag on the roof.

02:30:34.000 It was a 68 or a 69 Charger.

02:30:36.000 I think it was a 69. But that confederate flag, do you know that that show they can't have on TV anymore?

02:30:43.000 It's not on TV anymore because of that flag.

02:30:46.000 The flag's offensive.

02:30:48.000 It is.

02:30:49.000 It is. 0.99

02:30:50.000 It's fucking offensive. 0.99

02:30:51.000 I wish it wasn't. 0.99

02:30:52.000 I wish we got to a point where there was no racism. 0.99

02:30:56.000 We can have a Confederate flag and people are like, who gives a fuck? 0.99

02:30:58.000 Put it on. 0.99

02:30:59.000 Nobody cares.

02:31:00.000 I don't know if it's going to work out that way.

02:31:01.000 No, it might not ever.

02:31:02.000 But maybe a thousand years from now.

02:31:05.000 Maybe a thousand years from now.

02:31:06.000 Just how we go back and we read the Sumerian text.

02:31:09.000 A thousand years from now, they'll be so woke.

02:31:11.000 They'll just watch a Dukes of the House episode and go, oh, the first Daisy Dukes.

02:31:16.000 There it is.

02:31:17.000 This is the original Daisy Duke. 0.81

02:31:19.000 Yeah, or the people a thousand years ago from now were like, swastikas are cool. 0.92

02:31:23.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, I was like, there's a Hitler metaphor in here. 0.99

02:31:25.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:31:26.000 Have you guys seen... 1.00

02:31:27.000 That went wrong.

02:31:28.000 No.

02:31:28.000 Have you seen the meme of a child, there's a child with his hands over his head, leaning down, like kids in the future, trying to remember for history class what happened in 2020?

02:31:39.000 Oh, no.

02:31:40.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

02:31:42.000 Fuck, no. 1.00

02:31:43.000 It's a kid going... 1.00

02:31:46.000 Oh my god.

02:31:47.000 You posted something the other day and I started following the account.

02:31:50.000 It was like Lil Duvall, is that right?

02:31:52.000 Lil Duvall is the best follow during the pandemic. 0.94

02:31:55.000 It's so funny and right on point where there's a woman going like this and it's like, what area of revelations am I looking at now or something like that? 0.94

02:32:05.000 It's fucking hilarious.

02:32:06.000 Which chapter of revelations are we doing today? 0.93

02:32:09.000 My mom said this to me the other day because, you know, they're also alive right now.

02:32:15.000 My mom was like, in her beautiful Cleveland accent, she's like, you know what?

02:32:20.000 If a bunch of weird bugs start flying out of the sky, I won't be surprised.

02:32:25.000 And I was like, me too, Mom.

02:32:27.000 I'm not going to be surprised either. 0.99

02:32:29.000 It's getting weirder every fucking day. 0.99

02:32:33.000 Are you optimistic? 1.00

02:32:35.000 Yeah.

02:32:36.000 You think we can pull through?

02:32:37.000 I think we can.

02:32:37.000 Big time.

02:32:38.000 I think just the nature of the fact that so many people are protesting. 0.99

02:32:42.000 I think we're dismantling things that haven't worked for a long time, and I don't know what the answers are, but we're bulldozing this shit. 0.96

02:32:51.000 And I'm hopeful that as a collective people, we will work towards cohesion. 0.98

02:33:02.000 I hope so.

02:33:03.000 And peace.

02:33:04.000 We got a lot of white guilt we gotta work through. 1.00

02:33:07.000 There's these fucking videos of these people that are on their knees bowing. 1.00

02:33:12.000 Have you seen this? 1.00

02:33:13.000 And pledging.

02:33:14.000 It's like a church.

02:33:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.95

02:33:16.000 They're basically apologizing to this group of black people about all racism.

02:33:22.000 It's hard. 0.73

02:33:24.000 It's so hard.

02:33:25.000 I told Ben this the other day and then he kind of laughed at me and then I realized that...

02:33:29.000 Sorry, I don't want to say that.

02:33:30.000 What are you about to say?

02:33:32.000 Well, I went for a walk in my neighborhood and this was on Saturday.

02:33:37.000 This was when things were super heated.

02:33:40.000 They still are, but it was kind of like, oh my god, the Grove is on fire.

02:33:44.000 Mozo, one of my favorite restaurants, was gone.

02:33:46.000 It's charred.

02:33:48.000 They lit Mozo on fire?

02:33:49.000 Yeah, it's gone. 1.00

02:33:50.000 They fucking burned. 0.99

02:33:51.000 Oh no, that's one of my favorite restaurants too. 1.00

02:33:53.000 Well, too bad.

02:33:56.000 How dare you make fun of that?

02:33:57.000 But I don't mean to make fun of it.

02:33:59.000 That's the whiskey talking.

02:33:59.000 It is.

02:34:00.000 My bad.

02:34:00.000 I'm so sorry.

02:34:01.000 No, seriously.

02:34:02.000 They'll come back.

02:34:03.000 They'll make a pizza again.

02:34:04.000 Allegedly.

02:34:04.000 Pass that whiskey.

02:34:06.000 I'm sad now.

02:34:07.000 But I was walking around the Silver Lake Reservoir, and I told Ben I had this, like, you know, every black person I passed, I just, like, I felt more love for them than I have ever.

02:34:21.000 I mean, I always feel love for everybody.

02:34:23.000 That's the truth.

02:34:24.000 Well, maybe it's just awareness.

02:34:25.000 I just felt so aware of, like, their road is different than mine right now.

02:34:30.000 And I also want them to know, like, hey, I'm standing up for you.

02:34:34.000 But also, not every black person wants that.

02:34:37.000 Right. 1.00

02:34:37.000 They're like, get the fuck away from me. 1.00

02:34:38.000 They're like, don't bother me, white people. 1.00

02:34:40.000 So in terms of white guilt, I don't have white guilt, but I have white awareness.

02:34:45.000 And I feel aware.

02:34:47.000 And I'm trying to step carefully and not hurt anybody's feelings, because I don't want to do that.

02:34:52.000 Listen, you are in no way, shape, or form a racist.

02:34:55.000 And I think the problem is the idea that you are until you prove you're not.

02:35:01.000 I think you're a beautiful person.

02:35:04.000 You're a great person.

02:35:05.000 Just keep doing you. 0.99

02:35:06.000 And if you see black folks, and you guys make eye contact, and they know what the fuck is going on in the world, and you know what the fuck is going on in the world, just say, what's up? 1.00

02:35:14.000 And they say, what's up? 0.99

02:35:15.000 And everybody feels good.

02:35:17.000 That's a real thing with people.

02:35:19.000 It's a weird thing when you run into people, and you don't know, and you go, what's up?

02:35:23.000 And they go, hey, what's up?

02:35:24.000 And everybody's good.

02:35:25.000 It's good for everybody.

02:35:26.000 That's what we all need to do.

02:35:28.000 That guy's not us.

02:35:30.000 That cop that did that, that's not us. 1.00

02:35:33.000 That's a sick person. 1.00

02:35:34.000 That's a sick person. 0.98

02:35:36.000 One of the reasons why we're so angry about that man killing George Floyd is because we know in the darkest of darkest regions of all of our minds that is humanly possible for someone to do. 0.79

02:35:49.000 We know that, and we hope and pray it's not possible for us to do, or anyone we know, or anyone we love.

02:35:56.000 Could you imagine if that was your son?

02:35:57.000 Can you imagine if your son was on television, leaning on this man's neck for 8 minutes and 40 seconds? 1.00

02:36:03.000 You'd be like, what the fuck?! 1.00

02:36:06.000 What?!

02:36:07.000 You'd be like, what did I do wrong?!

02:36:09.000 What did I do wrong that I made a monster?!

02:36:13.000 Fuck! 1.00

02:36:14.000 Imagine watching that? 1.00

02:36:15.000 Imagine just freaking out while you put someone into the world that leaned on someone's neck until they died.

02:36:22.000 Every person.

02:36:23.000 And this is one of the weird parts of being a parent.

02:36:26.000 But also, what if they propagated that mentality?

02:36:29.000 What if that were the thing? 0.99

02:36:30.000 Not to throw this into the arena, but things I've been reading are white supremacy infiltration into the police force, and that fucking terrifies me. 1.00

02:36:42.000 Look, any white supremacy is awful. 1.00

02:36:45.000 Any racism is awful. 1.00

02:36:47.000 But what I'm more interested in than any of that is like, what gets a person to be that fucked up? 0.99

02:36:53.000 Whether it's racist or murderous or ruthless or... 0.99

02:37:01.000 Deceptive or stealing.

02:37:03.000 What gets a person?

02:37:05.000 That's what we need to concentrate on. 0.99

02:37:06.000 Instead of getting mad at the people that fuck up and do terrible shit, which is all justified, but we really need to trace this back publicly. 0.99

02:37:15.000 Like, what is making a cop kill someone by leaning on his neck for eight and a half minutes? 1.00

02:37:22.000 It's a mental health issue.

02:37:24.000 It is!

02:37:25.000 It's also a developmental issue.

02:37:27.000 A person, when you're 35 years old, you're kind of an equation.

02:37:31.000 There's a lot of you that is just an accumulated gathering of experiences and your interpretation of those experiences along with your genetics, your neighborhood, your family, all the expectations people have on you, and then boom, here you are.

02:37:47.000 It's an equation.

02:37:49.000 Yeah, it is.

02:37:51.000 We all are! 0.98

02:37:53.000 And a huge part of that equation is the system we grew up in, which happens to be fucking racist in a lot of ways, or at least has had trouble dealing with that issue from the very beginning. 0.98

02:38:07.000 Here's what I would say. 0.98

02:38:08.000 It's not even.

02:38:09.000 You know, when you have these neighborhoods that are traditionally...

02:38:15.000 They're suppressed.

02:38:18.000 Like when you're talking about Baltimore.

02:38:20.000 I had this guy, Michael Wood, on the podcast.

02:38:22.000 He was a cop in Baltimore.

02:38:24.000 It was one of the weirdest moments of the podcast ever.

02:38:26.000 Where he was a cop in like the early 2000s, if I remember correctly.

02:38:31.000 Or somewhere in the 2000s.

02:38:32.000 And he found this piece of paper...

02:38:35.000 That was a docket of all the crimes from like, you know, the 1970s. 0.98

02:38:40.000 It was all the same shit in the same areas. 0.99

02:38:45.000 So here he is risking his life. 0.99

02:38:47.000 Out there with a gun, wading into crime, trying to arrest people, and then he finds this piece of paper and says, oh, this is systemic racism.

02:38:55.000 And then he finds out about the red line laws.

02:38:57.000 Did you ever see Do the Right Thing, the Spike Lee movie?

02:38:59.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

02:39:00.000 Same exact thing.

02:39:02.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

02:39:02.000 Cop chokes a guy out and kills him. 0.99

02:39:06.000 And that was 30 years ago.

02:39:07.000 I mean, obviously this is going on hundreds of years, but the point is...

02:39:10.000 Look, I know a lot of cops, and a lot of them are great people.

02:39:15.000 We're good to go.

02:39:33.000 Who has gone through...

02:39:35.000 You don't want that, man. 1.00

02:39:37.000 You gotta read the horrible shit. 1.00

02:39:38.000 They killed babies, bro. 1.00

02:39:39.000 They were ruthless.

02:39:40.000 Bad choice, man.

02:39:41.000 Yeah, they used to roast babies over the fire slowly in front of their parents.

02:39:46.000 Difficult context for those people.

02:39:48.000 Not a good thing.

02:39:49.000 If they caught you, they tortured you.

02:39:51.000 They were the kings of torture. 1.00

02:39:53.000 I'd like a quick death. 0.99

02:39:55.000 Yeah, you don't want to command your death. 1.00

02:39:57.000 Me personally.

02:39:58.000 I'm telling you, Empire of the Summer Moon.

02:39:59.000 It's an incredible book.

02:40:01.000 Just get the audiobook. 1.00

02:40:02.000 Listen to the first week of it and you'll be like, holy fuck. 1.00

02:40:06.000 Just take it with you when you drive to the store or whatever the fuck you do. 1.00

02:40:10.000 Because I just go to the store. 0.99

02:40:11.000 Have you been going out?

02:40:12.000 Have you been hiding?

02:40:13.000 I've been doing stuff.

02:40:14.000 I've been building furniture.

02:40:16.000 Are you starting to move back into society again?

02:40:18.000 Yeah, I hang out with my friends.

02:40:20.000 The coronavirus seems to be less of an issue.

02:40:21.000 I... Okay.

02:40:23.000 I'm cognizant of the coronavirus.

02:40:27.000 The only people I know that have gotten it are in New York.

02:40:31.000 I... I work out, I walk, I go to the grocery store, I go to my friend's house, and I build furniture.

02:40:39.000 You're building furniture?

02:40:40.000 Yeah, I'm building some furniture.

02:40:42.000 Wow.

02:40:42.000 Yeah.

02:40:43.000 Are you building it, like, do you have a design that you follow?

02:40:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:47.000 I have a walnut shelf I'm building that goes under my TV. Are you a carpenter?

02:40:52.000 No.

02:40:52.000 How do you know how to do this?

02:40:53.000 You figure it out.

02:40:55.000 It's not that hard.

02:40:55.000 Really?

02:40:55.000 That's so cool.

02:40:57.000 I mean, my friends have the tools, so I'm really lucky to use them.

02:41:00.000 Like, I don't own that stuff.

02:41:02.000 But, yeah, I mean, it's not that hard.

02:41:04.000 And it's really gratifying to make your own stuff.

02:41:08.000 And that's something I've really gotten into just to, you know, keep myself entertained and busy.

02:41:14.000 Yeah.

02:41:14.000 Yeah, well, that's a good thing.

02:41:16.000 That's a good way of using your energy.

02:41:18.000 Your energy comes to fork in the road.

02:41:21.000 We're all of a sudden, live touring.

02:41:23.000 Stop.

02:41:24.000 Can't go anywhere.

02:41:25.000 Joe, it haunts me when I was on here with Gary because we were literally talking about...

02:41:30.000 What does the world look like without live music? 0.99

02:41:32.000 And I'm like, bullshit. 0.99

02:41:34.000 You can never replace live music and here we are. 0.99

02:41:36.000 And I've been doing these live shows. 0.88

02:41:38.000 I started doing Zoom sessions on my website as supplemental income and also just to have that experience with people because any live stream I do is just, you're literally fucking looking at yourself and then comments underneath.

02:41:54.000 And I don't get to have this experience where I'm sitting across from someone, even digitally, where, you know, it's like...

02:42:02.000 Nailed it.

02:42:04.000 What is that?

02:42:05.000 Didn't nail it.

02:42:06.000 Totally didn't nail it.

02:42:07.000 I just want a lighter.

02:42:09.000 You cave person.

02:42:10.000 Love you.

02:42:13.000 To everyone watching, I didn't catch that.

02:42:15.000 Do you want a blunt, or do you want a joint?

02:42:17.000 No, see, this is...

02:42:18.000 Dadgrass.

02:42:18.000 Yeah, this is...

02:42:19.000 Is that my dadgrass? 1.00

02:42:21.000 That's some bullshit designed by the man to make you sleepy. 1.00

02:42:23.000 Hey, it doesn't make you sleepy, it makes you cool and chill. 1.00

02:42:27.000 You know what I mean?

02:42:27.000 It's like a blend, so I don't get...

02:42:29.000 Come here, pal.

02:42:30.000 Completely...

02:42:30.000 Don't hurt me, Joe.

02:42:32.000 Put that down. 1.00

02:42:33.000 God damn it. 1.00

02:42:34.000 Joe, don't hurt Ben. 1.00

02:42:34.000 I will bow to this. 1.00

02:42:36.000 No, no, no.

02:42:37.000 Let me smoke my...

02:42:38.000 Oh, my God, there's a joint off.

02:42:40.000 There's a...

02:42:40.000 Jamie, there's a joint off.

02:42:41.000 Here, you smoke a little bit of this, I'll smoke a little bit of that.

02:42:44.000 Split screen!

02:42:47.000 Boys are firing up the joints. 1.00

02:42:49.000 I haven't smoked anything, but I will later.

02:42:52.000 I'm already so drunk.

02:42:54.000 Look, we all have an obligation.

02:42:56.000 To show that smoking pot and drinking whiskey is not for bad people.

02:43:02.000 We're all good people.

02:43:03.000 We're nice to each other.

02:43:04.000 We love each other.

02:43:05.000 We get high together.

02:43:06.000 We really do.

02:43:07.000 Love you guys.

02:43:08.000 This is so much fun.

02:43:09.000 I love you too.

02:43:09.000 I'm so happy.

02:43:10.000 When you texted me, first of all, when I saw on Instagram...

02:43:13.000 Sorry.

02:43:14.000 That was like hyper speed. 0.99

02:43:17.000 I literally said like, oh shit! 0.99

02:43:19.000 And I immediately texted you. 0.99

02:43:21.000 We were like, ah, let's just take this slow. 1.00

02:43:23.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:43:24.000 We dip our toe in a fucking tsunami. 1.00

02:43:27.000 Okay, it goes like this. 1.00

02:43:29.000 Ben and I came by this honestly.

02:43:31.000 We...

02:43:32.000 Love each other.

02:43:33.000 We love our music together.

02:43:35.000 We're great friends.

02:43:36.000 Two months ago, we're not speaking.

02:43:37.000 We weren't just speaking two months ago.

02:43:38.000 Mushrooms for everyone! 0.75

02:43:40.000 And then we started playing together, and it's like, it's too good.

02:43:44.000 It's too good, the feeling that we have when we play together.

02:43:48.000 And we were going to do...

02:43:50.000 Well, we failed this week because...

02:43:52.000 Are you kidding me right now?

02:43:54.000 I'll do it.

02:43:56.000 Count me in.

02:43:58.000 This...

02:43:59.000 Backtrack for a second.

02:44:00.000 We, you know, we're going to do a little podcast this week with each other and just like post a couple songs and it was like a big deal for us and it still is.

02:44:09.000 We're going to do it.

02:44:09.000 But obviously this week fucking blew up and it wasn't really like lined up.

02:44:15.000 But 10 or 15 minutes after we posted on our Honey Honey page that we were going to post some podcast songs, you texted and were like, let's do a podcast! 0.82

02:44:25.000 And we were like, oh my god!

02:44:27.000 And it was just like, like hyperspeed.

02:44:29.000 I got bummed out when you guys stopped working together.

02:44:32.000 We were too, man.

02:44:33.000 I didn't like it.

02:44:34.000 But we needed to do it.

02:44:35.000 It's okay.

02:44:36.000 Listen, life takes weird turns.

02:44:38.000 It's like a river.

02:44:39.000 It goes down the mountain.

02:44:40.000 It's got to take the right path.

02:44:43.000 Yeah.

02:44:44.000 Do you know that one?

02:44:44.000 Want some of those?

02:44:45.000 No, I don't know.

02:44:46.000 Okay, some of those?

02:44:47.000 Yeah.

02:44:48.000 Tell you some of that.

02:44:48.000 Ben?

02:44:52.000 It's magic bubblegum.

02:44:55.000 That's a big one.

02:44:56.000 I love that poster in the bathroom.

02:44:58.000 It's Skynyrd, and then it says, the Stones, it says, the greatest rock and roll band on earth.

02:45:03.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:45:04.000 You know, that was what you called them back then.

02:45:07.000 Well, for a good reason, man.

02:45:10.000 The Stones are interesting.

02:45:12.000 In that there's a lot of Stone songs that people forgot.

02:45:15.000 There's not a...

02:45:16.000 Like, there's some bands...

02:45:18.000 You just want to microdose?

02:45:19.000 Yeah.

02:45:20.000 There's some bands that...

02:45:21.000 That's not a microdose, but do you.

02:45:23.000 Listen, we gotta make this legal, ladies and gentlemen.

02:45:25.000 We gotta make this legal.

02:45:26.000 What are you talking about?

02:45:27.000 This is legal.

02:45:28.000 What legal?

02:45:28.000 We're just eating...

02:45:29.000 We're just eating birchwood gum...

02:45:33.000 It's from a birch tree.

02:45:34.000 Dear God.

02:45:36.000 Yeah, just shut it down if it gets...

02:45:38.000 Don't put any...

02:45:39.000 Hey.

02:45:39.000 Okay, I'm gonna put that back.

02:45:41.000 I'm gonna do these.

02:45:43.000 I love Pez.

02:45:45.000 And dump.

02:45:45.000 We're gonna dump it.

02:45:46.000 We gotta protect people. 0.99

02:45:49.000 Protect people from assholes. 1.00

02:45:51.000 And we gotta let people do the shit they enjoy doing. 1.00

02:45:57.000 Joe, we love you so much. 0.91

02:45:59.000 I love you guys too.

02:46:00.000 This is so nice.

02:46:01.000 All things considered, the world is in a crazy place and this is one of the best feelings I've had in a very long time.

02:46:09.000 Well, I always enjoy you guys.

02:46:11.000 I enjoy seeing you.

02:46:13.000 I enjoy listening to your music when you're not around.

02:46:15.000 I listen to you guys all the time.

02:46:17.000 I listen to you guys when I work out.

02:46:19.000 I do.

02:46:20.000 Thanks, man.

02:46:21.000 I listen to you guys when I'm on trips. 0.98

02:46:24.000 You guys are cool as fuck. 0.96

02:46:26.000 Thank you. 0.99

02:46:27.000 Hey, we listen to you, too.

02:46:29.000 Truth.

02:46:29.000 Yeah.

02:46:30.000 Music is an interesting thing.

02:46:32.000 You put words together that change the state of people's consciousness.

02:46:37.000 You put tones together and you have rhythms and sounds and it invades people's minds and it changes who they are.

02:46:45.000 And some songs are really indicative of the times.

02:46:49.000 I think it was Snoop Dogg had Marvin Gaye.

02:46:52.000 It was a live version of What's that song?

02:46:57.000 Jogan sings!

02:46:58.000 You sound so good! 1.00

02:47:00.000 Damn, Joe Rogan! 1.00

02:47:02.000 What's going on? 1.00

02:47:03.000 Marvin Gaye.

02:47:04.000 And you listen to it and you're like, wow, I don't know what it was like back then.

02:47:09.000 I was too young.

02:47:10.000 I don't remember.

02:47:11.000 But I hope it's better now.

02:47:13.000 I feel like it is.

02:47:14.000 I feel like there's something about these marches.

02:47:17.000 You've got to take the looting out of the picture.

02:47:20.000 Because I think if you want to follow the ideology of determinism, however you got there, there's a combination of a bunch of things that are probably out of your control, and who you are, and where you're from, and who your dad was, and who your mom was.

02:47:34.000 Hey, you are bang!

02:47:36.000 But... 0.98

02:47:38.000 There's something about when you hear a song from 1971 or some shit like that, and you realize we're still dealing with the same shit in 2020 that really makes you worry that we're not going to get it right. 0.84

02:47:51.000 I didn't think you were going to go that way with it. 0.82

02:47:53.000 No, no, really. 0.99

02:47:54.000 No bullshit.

02:47:55.000 I think there's beauty in the fact that everybody's gotten together and they're rising up against it.

02:48:00.000 And they realize, this is enough, it's enough, it's enough!

02:48:05.000 It's so enough!

02:48:07.000 It's sooo enough!

02:48:10.000 But you gotta worry. 1.00

02:48:12.000 You gotta worry that shit would go sideways when you see the looting. 0.99

02:48:16.000 There's a lot of it is that there's like this weird battle going on. 0.99

02:48:20.000 A battle between logic and anger.

02:48:23.000 You know?

02:48:24.000 People raise well and people raise poorly.

02:48:27.000 People are mad and people are happy and everyone's together.

02:48:30.000 In a big soup of equilibrium, trying to find your way to the steady ground, trying to figure it all out.

02:48:38.000 Most people just don't.

02:48:39.000 And we're involved in that as much as we're involved in any other aspect of this.

02:48:44.000 We're all just trying to figure out life.

02:48:48.000 But all these things are information.

02:48:49.000 And yeah, of course, how can we know?

02:48:52.000 You've got no idea what's going to happen.

02:48:54.000 But it's all information to apply to the situation.

02:48:58.000 People are looting. 0.99

02:49:00.000 Okay, among a range of factions, there's economic problems and we've got to fucking... 0.99

02:49:08.000 Yeah, it's a perfect storm. 0.95

02:49:09.000 Well, I think the thing is, like, we have to try to find each other's perspectives.

02:49:13.000 And that's really hard for some people to do.

02:49:15.000 And in one of the really wonderful people I spoke to this weekend, really gave me an insight that I never would have had.

02:49:23.000 And this gentleman lives in Texas.

02:49:26.000 And he had something to say about I posted a good cop video, I posted a video of a cop I saw that video.

02:49:54.000 Big city.

02:49:55.000 Retired now.

02:49:56.000 And he said he was depressed.

02:49:57.000 He didn't know what to do.

02:49:58.000 And I got to think about him because he's a good man.

02:50:02.000 And in that respect, this gentleman who reached out to me very kindly, and I'm so grateful for it.

02:50:09.000 Here's why I don't like you posting that video of that happy cop scenario.

02:50:14.000 He said because I grew up in poverty.

02:50:16.000 I slept in the bed with my dad till I was 10 because we didn't have another bed.

02:50:21.000 There were holes in our walls.

02:50:22.000 We didn't have food.

02:50:24.000 He said cops weren't playing basketball with me in my neighborhood.

02:50:27.000 If anything, I would see them beat up my friends and I couldn't do anything about it.

02:50:31.000 He said I'm angry and I don't want to see that right now.

02:50:35.000 And I really respect that.

02:50:38.000 That was a perspective I didn't have.

02:50:40.000 And he also said, hey, I've done things in my life that I wasn't proud of.

02:50:44.000 All I could think of in my life was getting out of this place that I lived in.

02:50:48.000 And he admitted to stealing things, theft, and to get his life in a place that he needed to get out of.

02:50:58.000 And he's out.

02:51:00.000 And it was a perspective...

02:51:05.000 For looting that I never would have had.

02:51:07.000 You know, looting is mania at this point.

02:51:09.000 Like, I'm not sure, like, it's so many things. 0.97

02:51:11.000 It's just a fucking vomitus of, like, either people trying to cause trouble, anarchy, people just trying to be heard. 0.95

02:51:19.000 Outlook on it, which is a guy framing it, saying these are people who can't take part. 0.99

02:51:24.000 In consumer economy.

02:51:25.000 That's a great framing.

02:51:28.000 Yeah, and that should be recognized.

02:51:30.000 I don't think that's the answer, but I see you, and that's the thing.

02:51:34.000 It's like these people want to be seen.

02:51:36.000 They want to be hugged. 0.99

02:51:37.000 Yeah, and I want to fucking hug them. 0.99

02:51:38.000 Everybody wants to be loved. 0.99

02:51:40.000 Do you know who Robert Sapolsky is?

02:51:42.000 You ever heard of him?

02:51:43.000 He's a professor at Stanford. 0.89

02:51:44.000 And he's done some really interesting work on primates and baboons and that toxoplasma shit that we were talking about before.

02:51:56.000 But one of the things that he was talking about, I had a podcast with him a couple years back and He's a really interesting guy.

02:52:04.000 He was saying that in the future he thinks that one of the biggest mistakes that they'll look back on with us is that we didn't understand how a human being comes to be the person they are today and how many factors are out of their control.

02:52:22.000 And we try to pretend that everybody is that.

02:52:24.000 I'm paraphrasing greatly, but it was basically that human beings are responsible for their own actions.

02:52:31.000 And that collectively, we all influence each other's actions.

02:52:35.000 We're all different people around each other.

02:52:37.000 We're different people.

02:52:38.000 It's one of the things that's the most important thing about having really good friends.

02:52:42.000 Like, really good, important, awesome friends.

02:52:44.000 They literally make you better just being around them.

02:52:47.000 They make you feel better.

02:52:48.000 They make you love better.

02:52:49.000 You become a nicer person if you have exceptional friends.

02:52:52.000 Yeah.

02:52:55.000 We're all weirdly connected.

02:52:58.000 Like, weirdly.

02:53:00.000 And we don't understand it.

02:53:02.000 So when something like this happens, everybody's like, let's march in the street.

02:53:04.000 Like, yes, let's march.

02:53:06.000 We feel good that we're all out there together.

02:53:09.000 We feel good that we all agree.

02:53:11.000 We feel good. 1.00

02:53:12.000 And then there's some people that disagree and there's some people that say stupid shit. 1.00

02:53:15.000 There's some people that get canceled. 1.00

02:53:17.000 We're all trying to right the ship. 0.99

02:53:19.000 We're all like, just fucking stay. 0.99

02:53:22.000 In the boat! 0.99

02:53:23.000 Stay in the boat!

02:53:24.000 We're all like holding on the boat of civilization.

02:53:27.000 We're gonna be okay!

02:53:29.000 We love each other!

02:53:30.000 We don't have to worry, maybe.

02:53:32.000 There's plenty of food!

02:53:34.000 Plenty of roofs!

02:53:35.000 We can do this!

02:53:36.000 Put the toilet paper! 0.56

02:53:38.000 This one dude's going to Mars!

02:53:40.000 We gotta get the game right.

02:53:41.000 We gotta get the game right.

02:53:43.000 Some people can't start the game. 0.98

02:53:45.000 If you play Monopoly and a dude starts out with a billion dollars, that's fucked up, man. 0.96

02:53:50.000 Oh, I just played Monopoly. 0.95

02:53:51.000 You got a billion dollars?

02:53:53.000 It was horrible.

02:53:54.000 I just played Monopoly on Mushrooms like a month ago before I had to do this sober thing.

02:53:59.000 That's hilarious.

02:53:59.000 And my one friend was dominating the whole game, and I was getting more and more bitter and angry.

02:54:04.000 And she had so many fucking hotels, that bitch. 1.00

02:54:07.000 She killed us. 1.00

02:54:09.000 You gotta accept the fact that that's just how the game works.

02:54:12.000 Don't hate the player.

02:54:14.000 But the irony of it is like, oh god, okay, noted, got it. 0.99

02:54:19.000 Because I'm like, every time she's like, I'll buy that, I was like, bitch. 1.00

02:54:23.000 That fucking bitch. 1.00

02:54:25.000 She doesn't need that. 1.00

02:54:26.000 It's a fake game!

02:54:28.000 It's a fake game!

02:54:29.000 But is it?

02:54:30.000 Is it?

02:54:31.000 But is it?

02:54:32.000 Deep.

02:54:33.000 I need to own some property.

02:54:38.000 One day.

02:54:39.000 One day.

02:54:40.000 That's the weirdest thing about all of us.

02:54:42.000 We just thrust into this game.

02:54:44.000 We realized we were playing it while we're up and running.

02:54:47.000 We're up and running.

02:54:48.000 Learn how to walk.

02:54:48.000 Keep going.

02:54:49.000 What's going on?

02:54:50.000 You're in a game!

02:54:51.000 What kind of game?

02:54:52.000 The rat race. 0.84

02:54:53.000 It's the rat race.

02:54:54.000 The guy, the gentleman who... 0.91

02:54:57.000 I swear to God I'm having deja vu.

02:54:58.000 I feel like I talked about this last time I was here.

02:55:01.000 But the guy who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad created a game called...

02:55:04.000 It's like the Rat Race. 0.57

02:55:06.000 And it's how you economically get out of your debt and your spiraling investments or whatever.

02:55:13.000 And then you get to the big leagues.

02:55:15.000 I mean, that's America.

02:55:17.000 That's the trajectory.

02:55:19.000 That's the America that we like.

02:55:20.000 That's the Eagle.

02:55:21.000 It's not exactly.

02:55:22.000 That's the Eagle. 1.00

02:55:23.000 And the Eagle is a fucking vulture. 1.00

02:55:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:55:25.000 The Rock.

02:55:26.000 In real life.

02:55:27.000 The Rock 2024 is going to take care of all that.

02:55:30.000 Yes!

02:55:30.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

02:55:32.000 This eagle vulture bullshit. 1.00

02:55:34.000 I'm going to be gross for a minute. 0.99

02:55:36.000 I just want him to pick me up.

02:55:37.000 He could definitely pick you up.

02:55:39.000 That's it.

02:55:39.000 I just want to be held.

02:55:40.000 He could pick you up and probably not even know he picked you up.

02:55:42.000 Great.

02:55:42.000 That's all I want.

02:55:43.000 I don't want to be weird.

02:55:43.000 Who's this person?

02:55:45.000 I'm a tall girl and it's like, I just want to pick me up. 0.95

02:55:49.000 All bullshit aside, I take a lot of inspiration from- Clothes on! 0.94

02:55:52.000 Clothes on! 0.99

02:55:53.000 You're friends.

02:55:54.000 We all get it.

02:55:55.000 We're all just friends.

02:55:56.000 Thank you.

02:55:56.000 I take inspiration from that guy.

02:56:00.000 Legitimately, I'm joking around earlier about what I said, but I'm also being honest.

02:56:04.000 I believe what I'm saying.

02:56:06.000 No, I think he's a wonderful person.

02:56:08.000 Unusual.

02:56:09.000 He's unusual.

02:56:10.000 I shouldn't objectify him as a big, strong man.

02:56:12.000 He's also a really good person. 1.00

02:56:14.000 Yeah, you fucking sexist! 1.00

02:56:15.000 I'm an asshole, and I'm sorry for telling everyone... 1.00

02:56:18.000 That is unacceptable. 1.00

02:56:20.000 You've heteronormative Tim...

02:56:25.000 I think it worked.

02:56:26.000 We're going with it. 0.98

02:56:26.000 No, that's not a fucking new word. 0.98

02:56:28.000 That's real. 0.99

02:56:29.000 No, I almost was smart. 1.00

02:56:30.000 It's an important part of gender theory, you piece of shit. 1.00

02:56:34.000 I'm with you. 1.00

02:56:35.000 Write another thing that rhymes, you fucking asshole. 1.00

02:56:37.000 I'll write a letter of apology. 1.00

02:56:40.000 I'm sorry.

02:56:41.000 Part of the problem.

02:56:42.000 I am part of the problem. 0.97

02:56:47.000 White silence is white violence. 0.85

02:56:48.000 We're going to be okay.

02:56:49.000 I don't know.

02:56:51.000 I hope so.

02:56:53.000 We're gonna be okay.

02:56:54.000 We all want everybody to be okay.

02:56:56.000 We just gotta get over this, man, as a species.

02:57:00.000 The human species.

02:57:01.000 We gotta get over all our ripples.

02:57:03.000 Yeah, the sensitivities though, that thing is like, you're this or you're that. 0.83

02:57:08.000 The superlative talk is gonna fucking get us nowhere.

02:57:11.000 And I saw a t-shirt that I loved. 0.97

02:57:14.000 And it was in a photograph and it said, not left, not right, but forward.

02:57:19.000 And like this whole bipartisan stuff, like you can't, if you can just take a minute and listen to each other with an open heart, it's so hard for people, but it's really not. 0.72

02:57:34.000 It's really fucking not that hard.

02:57:37.000 No one's taught them how to do it. 0.92

02:57:39.000 That's why it's not hard.

02:57:40.000 It's hard to learn that.

02:57:41.000 It is.

02:57:42.000 We mimic and everything else.

02:57:45.000 If you want to learn how to play guitar, you learn from people who knew how to play the guitar.

02:57:51.000 If you want to learn how to do archery, like Geena Davis, you learn from people who know how to do archery.

02:57:56.000 We don't apply that To how you view the world.

02:58:01.000 People can't accept things.

02:58:02.000 These teachers are usually our parents, and not everybody initially has a great hand when it comes to that, and they don't.

02:58:09.000 You said earlier, it just makes me think about us.

02:58:12.000 We had a terrible time communicating with each other. 1.00

02:58:15.000 Fucking sucked! 1.00

02:58:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:58:15.000 You know, that wasn't easy. 1.00

02:58:16.000 We've been to therapy.

02:58:19.000 No, no, no.

02:58:19.000 12 years.

02:58:20.000 And who knows if we're over. 0.99

02:58:22.000 We could fucking go down after this. 0.98

02:58:23.000 Please don't. 0.99

02:58:23.000 Let's not. 0.99

02:58:24.000 Let's keep it going.

02:58:25.000 Let's keep it going.

02:58:26.000 Keep it going. 0.96

02:58:27.000 Bam or titties? 0.98

02:58:29.000 Titties! 0.99

02:58:29.000 But the point is... 0.99

02:58:31.000 No, that's not mine.

02:58:31.000 That's yours.

02:58:32.000 I don't want that one.

02:58:33.000 You take that one.

02:58:33.000 You take Bam.

02:58:34.000 I'll take titties. 0.82

02:58:34.000 It just made me think what you're saying. 0.82

02:58:36.000 It is not easy.

02:58:38.000 You know, and it's something that it's taken a long time and experience for us to be able to even communicate.

02:58:43.000 I feel like you set me up to, like, our relationship has set me up to, like, face adversity in the world because we have fought so much, but we love each other so much.

02:58:53.000 And at the end of the day, we just want to hear each other out.

02:58:56.000 And that's the thing with people that are aggressive or disagreeing with your rhetoric.

02:59:01.000 Like, they just want to be heard, and so do you.

02:59:03.000 So, like, with that said...

02:59:06.000 It's a time to have as much patience as you can possibly muster with healthy boundaries.

02:59:14.000 But, you know, I really have gotten a lot out of speaking to people on social media lately, literally speaking, not just comments. 0.99

02:59:24.000 And I'm learning and I'm growing and I'm grateful and I've fallen on my fucking face. 0.97

02:59:29.000 People telling me things that I never would have thought of. 0.99

02:59:31.000 It's so humbling.

02:59:34.000 Because like, ultimately, I want to help.

02:59:37.000 What's happening?

02:59:38.000 I don't want to see another black person get murdered by a police officer in a video ever again, as well as all of the other things that everybody wants to talk about.

02:59:47.000 We're all coming up.

02:59:50.000 I think we all agree.

02:59:51.000 We do.

02:59:52.000 No one disagrees.

02:59:53.000 Exactly.

02:59:53.000 That's what's unique about this time.

02:59:55.000 I think everybody's looking at this and going, yeah, there's obviously problems.

03:00:00.000 There's real problems.

03:00:01.000 We're seeing it in the cops that are treating the people that are peacefully protesting.

03:00:06.000 Like, you can't do that.

03:00:07.000 No one's doing anything wrong.

03:00:09.000 Here's what's crazy. 1.00

03:00:10.000 They're letting people loot, but they're fucking shooting tear gas at people that are just standing there saying the system's fucked. 0.99

03:00:17.000 Yeah, that's the information. 0.98

03:00:19.000 And, like, there's so many details of, you know, we were speaking earlier about police officers and, like, their instability, like, their mental dysfunctional aspects, and, like, that needs to be addressed in,

03:00:35.000 like...

03:00:38.000 It's not brought up at all.

03:00:39.000 We just expect them.

03:00:40.000 We just expect them to be superhuman.

03:00:43.000 They're not human.

03:00:44.000 And that's our fault, too. 1.00

03:00:45.000 If you are in credit card debt, you're freaking out and you can get fucking therapy. 1.00

03:00:49.000 But if you're a cop and you're seeing people get shot in the face every day, you're like, suck it up, pig. 1.00

03:00:55.000 We barely pay attention. 0.99

03:00:56.000 We barely pay attention to them.

03:00:59.000 So when they go hate-wire, you know those three guys that sat around while that guy kneeled on that dude's neck, like, what do you charge those guys with?

03:01:07.000 You know, there's been a real movement to say...

03:01:11.000 I wonder how old they were when they joined the force.

03:01:13.000 Like, were they kids when they joined the force?

03:01:15.000 It's like a fraternity?

03:01:17.000 Are they that hateful?

03:01:18.000 It's a hundred percent a thing that... 1.00

03:01:22.000 When you're in it, you're surrounded by people who are there to protect you if shit hits the fan. 0.98

03:01:30.000 There's a brotherhood that's involved in the police force. 0.75

03:01:33.000 If I had to guess what's wrong with the police force, but what is right about the Navy SEALs, is that one of them, it's really difficult to get into. 1.00

03:01:46.000 Like, if you meet a person, and that person is a Navy SEAL, that motherfucker can take some shit. 1.00

03:01:52.000 He has a strong mind. 1.00

03:01:55.000 He's figured out a way to navigate the maze of consciousness to go further than most people are capable of doing.

03:02:02.000 But that's not everybody who's a cop. 0.99

03:02:04.000 So there's a lot of people who are cops who are just bitches. 1.00

03:02:07.000 They're just bitches. 1.00

03:02:09.000 And they just got a job as a cop. 1.00

03:02:11.000 And they have to work with guys like The Rock!

03:02:15.000 They're right alongside The Rock! 1.00

03:02:17.000 And they're bitches! 1.00

03:02:18.000 No, but you're so right. 1.00

03:02:19.000 There's a validation in that badge.

03:02:21.000 There's a validation.

03:02:22.000 And if it's not actually a genuine... 0.97

03:02:25.000 Part of your integrity, then that's a fucking scary place for all of us. 0.51

03:02:29.000 It's one of the hardest jobs the world's ever known. 0.99

03:02:31.000 It's a really, really hard job being a cop.

03:02:34.000 Big fan of Killer Mike's review board idea.

03:02:38.000 Like, bringing back review boards where the community...

03:02:40.000 I've never disagreed with anything Killer Mike's ever said, ever.

03:02:43.000 He should be president.

03:02:44.000 Did you see Obama's thing?

03:02:46.000 He's so powerful.

03:02:48.000 The way he speaks...

03:02:51.000 I did not want to be here, and I don't want to do this. 0.99

03:02:54.000 You're like, God damn. 0.99

03:02:56.000 You see his TV show? 1.00

03:02:57.000 Yeah!

03:02:59.000 That's who he is.

03:03:00.000 There's no filter.

03:03:01.000 That's who he is.

03:03:02.000 I really, really hope I get to meet him sometime.

03:03:05.000 I'll introduce you.

03:03:06.000 I will die.

03:03:06.000 Next time those guys are here, I think we're supposed to do something.

03:03:10.000 I love both those dudes.

03:03:12.000 They're so important in this time. 0.61

03:03:14.000 There's no bullshit. 0.95

03:03:16.000 There's no bullshit. 0.97

03:03:17.000 If you want Killer Mike, it's right there. 0.98

03:03:19.000 Killer Mike's right there.

03:03:20.000 There's no filters.

03:03:21.000 Positive, negative, good, bad, son of a cop.

03:03:24.000 Talks about the Second Amendment and the need for handguns.

03:03:28.000 But it was also super progressive.

03:03:30.000 He and I both were like, let's get Bernie Sanders in this thing. 0.99

03:03:34.000 Let's see what the fuck happens. 0.98

03:03:35.000 If you get someone who redistributes wealth... 0.99

03:03:37.000 We're finding out now there's trillions of dollars. 0.99

03:03:41.000 We're gonna fix a fucking REI. We're gonna bail out Starbucks. 0.99

03:03:48.000 We found all this money. 0.99

03:03:50.000 Gotta save REI, for fuck's sake. 0.99

03:03:53.000 Did you see that where he's making porn where people are teaching people to fix their home appliances and stuff like that? 0.98

03:04:00.000 He was like, I'm gonna make a series of YouTube videos so people can learn how to be handy around their home.

03:04:05.000 Killer Mike, that is.

03:04:06.000 And he's like, but people don't pay attention to anything except porn. 0.97

03:04:09.000 So I'm going to make a bunch of porn that you see how to fix your sink. 0.99

03:04:15.000 It's so good. 0.98

03:04:17.000 Porn is like human, right? 0.77

03:04:19.000 What is human?

03:04:20.000 Human is the weird, the contrast of what we want you to believe, but what we really are.

03:04:26.000 Porn's the best example of that.

03:04:28.000 How many people are at work talking about porn?

03:04:30.000 How about zero?

03:04:32.000 It might be like the same amount of people that catch corona and die.

03:04:37.000 How many people talking about porn at work?

03:04:40.000 It ruins your sex life psychologically because there's no correlation between that and real life sex.

03:04:46.000 Just from the digital stimulation.

03:04:49.000 It really messes people up.

03:04:50.000 I think that's like saying, like, whiskey ruined your life. 1.00

03:04:52.000 No, you ruined your life, stupid. 1.00

03:04:55.000 Don't blame whiskey. 1.00

03:04:56.000 Whiskey's been great for me.

03:04:58.000 Me and whiskey have had a great relationship.

03:05:01.000 We made it work.

03:05:02.000 Yeah, we made it work.

03:05:04.000 We had a good time.

03:05:05.000 There's probably a lot of dudes out there that understand the abracadabra of porn, and they want to stay on the outside edges of the dangerous fear of control.

03:05:14.000 And they just hang in the background.

03:05:16.000 I mean... 0.95

03:05:18.000 I think porn is like heroin. 0.98

03:05:20.000 You should be able to do it, but you probably shouldn't. 0.89

03:05:26.000 And you're not going to be able to stop.

03:05:27.000 Keep it together!

03:05:29.000 That should be your goal.

03:05:30.000 Keep it together!

03:05:32.000 It all comes down to accountability.

03:05:34.000 Period.

03:05:35.000 I love whiskey. 0.99

03:05:36.000 It's weird how many people are fucking on video. 0.99

03:05:38.000 If you really stop and think about it, it's like... 0.99

03:05:40.000 They're doing it right now.

03:05:42.000 It's barely even unusual.

03:05:45.000 It's barely unusual.

03:05:47.000 The amount of sheer porn, like, I used to have a joke about it, it was like, why are they still making porn?

03:05:52.000 Has anybody ever seen it at all?

03:05:54.000 Could they stop now and let us catch up? 0.99

03:05:57.000 I wanted to die thinking I missed the hottest scene ever because there's too much goddamn content, you gluttons. 1.00

03:06:06.000 Just out there fucking every day, filming it. 1.00

03:06:09.000 Never enough. 1.00

03:06:10.000 It's like music, though.

03:06:10.000 I mean, we're getting, like, across the board, we're getting schooled right now.

03:06:13.000 Like, all of those, like, quote-unquote comforts or whatever, you know, we're going to funnel our energy into, like, all that shit is, like, fading out.

03:06:21.000 Like, we're being restructured. 0.71

03:06:24.000 Yeah.

03:06:25.000 In the Matrix.

03:06:26.000 I think we're learning how to be adults.

03:06:28.000 We're learning what's important.

03:06:31.000 Like, who's far enough ahead on this weird race that you can stop and go, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!

03:06:38.000 Let's stop and work out the resources! 0.99

03:06:43.000 We're gonna eat!

03:06:44.000 We're running too far!

03:06:45.000 This is not necessary!

03:06:47.000 We're getting crazy!

03:06:48.000 We only live to be 100!

03:06:50.000 What are we doing?

03:06:51.000 Let's be nice to each other! 1.00

03:06:52.000 Shit! 1.00

03:06:53.000 Why are we mad? 1.00

03:06:55.000 There's plenty of food.

03:06:57.000 It just needs to be distributed.

03:06:59.000 There's plenty of money.

03:07:00.000 We just need to figure out how to fix it.

03:07:02.000 What do you think that is?

03:07:02.000 The panic?

03:07:04.000 And I really say this honestly. 0.96

03:07:07.000 Like, no, I don't want to be raped and murdered.

03:07:10.000 I don't want my home to be invaded.

03:07:12.000 But what is this need to...

03:07:19.000 Jump over each other, take all the toilet paper.

03:07:22.000 Because we're in competition.

03:07:24.000 Right, but more so.

03:07:25.000 I want to know...

03:07:27.000 But that's the whole thing.

03:07:29.000 Competition for what?

03:07:30.000 To survive?

03:07:31.000 For resources, to survive, for attention, for money, for prominence.

03:07:39.000 We've always done that.

03:07:41.000 Well, it's what you were talking about earlier with these fears that are kind of buried deep in our genetics.

03:07:45.000 We're still dealing with software that's 100,000 years old.

03:07:51.000 I also think there's two things playing out at the same time.

03:07:54.000 There's this sexual thing.

03:07:56.000 Where human beings are attracted to each other and you're trying to figure out how to choose mates.

03:08:02.000 And then there's this, like, whatever intrigues you thing.

03:08:08.000 There's like, you want people to like you. 0.88

03:08:10.000 If you're gay, you want gay dudes to like you. 0.97

03:08:12.000 If you're straight, you want a straight woman to like you. 0.98

03:08:15.000 And you also want to figure out this thing.

03:08:17.000 This thing that you're doing.

03:08:18.000 What's the thing you're doing?

03:08:19.000 Are you playing tennis?

03:08:20.000 What do you do, man?

03:08:22.000 What do you do?

03:08:22.000 You paint?

03:08:23.000 I love tennis.

03:08:23.000 What do you do?

03:08:24.000 Are you a chess master? 1.00

03:08:25.000 What's your fucking expression? 1.00

03:08:27.000 What's your mode of expression? 1.00

03:08:29.000 And through your singing, particularly you, you're right here.

03:08:33.000 My friend, I know who you are.

03:08:36.000 Because there's a way you sing where you figure out a way to get it all out in these tones.

03:08:43.000 And that's what makes singing so exciting for people who can't sing and for people who love to listen.

03:08:49.000 There's a thing where they're getting...

03:08:51.000 It's like you're figuring out a way...

03:08:56.000 To use a special lens to look right into a person and find out, like, what is that person when they're at their lowest?

03:09:04.000 What is it when they're at their highest?

03:09:06.000 And what is this when they're really passionate about something?

03:09:10.000 What is that expression?

03:09:11.000 And it comes through in this weird melody, this weird sound that you can make with your voice.

03:09:17.000 But what you're doing is you're showing people who you are.

03:09:20.000 It's showing people who you are through the sound that you can make and these words and we use those sounds and those words as this like translator to figure out what you're really feeling and what you're really thinking.

03:09:36.000 When it's wrapped up in your lyrics, the thing that's fascinating about it is how you guys are so tight, and you love each other so much.

03:09:45.000 And you're putting words together, and you're singing these words, and you're all putting it together in this music.

03:09:51.000 LA River is one of my favorite songs ever.

03:09:53.000 It really is.

03:09:54.000 And one of the reasons why is because it's so indicative about the beauty.

03:09:59.000 I thought I saw a body in the weeds.

03:10:01.000 Like, that's a part of a beautiful song.

03:10:03.000 I thought I saw a body in the weeds.

03:10:05.000 Do you want to talk about the fact that it was put on a...

03:10:08.000 Oh, we had this great moment where this TV show used the song in this, like, romantic marriage.

03:10:13.000 It was a marriage scene.

03:10:14.000 It was a wedding. 1.00

03:10:15.000 And it just showed you, they don't listen to the fucking song. 1.00

03:10:18.000 Like, that song is L.A. That song is L.A. It was a wedding scene in that song. 0.99

03:10:22.000 Yeah, and they go, thought I saw a body in the weeds.

03:10:24.000 We're like, okay.

03:10:25.000 I do.

03:10:26.000 Had to hop a chain link fence.

03:10:29.000 I went down to the banks of the LA River, had to hop a chain link fence.

03:10:34.000 Hey, we got props to Ben Jaffe.

03:10:36.000 He wrote that song like fourth quarter of Billy Jack when we were doing that record.

03:10:41.000 We were putting all our songs together and he wrote that very quickly and brought it to the table and it was beautiful.

03:10:47.000 And you know what else also is like when you guys had just moved here.

03:10:51.000 You know, so there's part of you saying, oh, I love my new home.

03:10:54.000 Yeah.

03:10:55.000 And, you know, I hate wanting to abandon L.A., but I hate when things get really big and they're run by people who haven't done mushrooms.

03:11:06.000 It bothers me.

03:11:08.000 Well, how do we get the mushrooms, Joe?

03:11:10.000 How do we do it?

03:11:11.000 I don't think they know what they're talking about.

03:11:13.000 I really don't.

03:11:14.000 I don't think they're projecting the right- Garcetti?

03:11:16.000 All of them!

03:11:17.000 I don't even want to say anybody's name. 1.00

03:11:18.000 Get your shit together, Garcetti. 0.99

03:11:20.000 This is what I think. 1.00

03:11:21.000 I think we all need to understand there's a lot of messages that can be conveyed right now.

03:11:27.000 And you can't just constantly worry about what your side thinks.

03:11:31.000 We gotta figure out some way to get through this where we're all better off than we were before it started.

03:11:39.000 And it can be done It can be done.

03:11:41.000 They can all do it.

03:11:42.000 It can be done.

03:11:43.000 Yeah.

03:11:44.000 And it's being done in a lot of places.

03:11:46.000 It is! 0.99

03:11:47.000 This is a fucking breakthrough moment. 1.00

03:11:50.000 All the looting and the riots, it'll be in history. 1.00

03:11:55.000 It's terrible.

03:11:55.000 It's horrible that it happened.

03:11:57.000 But this explosion that happened, we got a real shot at moving things forward in a really powerful way.

03:12:05.000 We got a real shot right now.

03:12:07.000 Well, when people are uncomfortable, and we are really uncomfortable, that's when things move.

03:12:14.000 Because there's action. 0.97

03:12:16.000 You can't just sit in it, and no one likes to be uncomfortable, so what the fuck are you gonna do? 0.91

03:12:20.000 100% with everything in life. 0.97

03:12:22.000 Like, if you have a bad moment in life, It feels terrible.

03:12:27.000 And that is life's way.

03:12:30.000 If you're playing this weird game of good and bad and love and hate and what feels amazing, what feels terrible.

03:12:40.000 You follow that.

03:12:42.000 You follow whatever that is.

03:12:43.000 You follow whatever that feeling is.

03:12:45.000 Yeah.

03:12:46.000 I mean, it's back to Joey Diaz, though, a little bit, too.

03:12:49.000 It's like you have these monumental moments in your life, and how do you grow from them?

03:12:53.000 Yes.

03:12:54.000 And I have no disrespect, but I've always had a really hard time relating to people that are like, I've never been through anything difficult.

03:13:00.000 Life's been great.

03:13:01.000 I'm just sort of like...

03:13:02.000 But you know what?

03:13:03.000 Which probably isn't even true.

03:13:04.000 But this is what I think we all need to consider.

03:13:07.000 It's not their call. 0.99

03:13:09.000 They didn't say, hey, I don't want Suzanne to have this fucking dope-ass life in Beverly Hills. 1.00

03:13:14.000 Fuck that shit. 1.00

03:13:15.000 I don't live in Beverly Hills and I'm on unemployment, let's be clear. 1.00

03:13:17.000 Move that bitch to Van Nuys. 1.00

03:13:19.000 Move that bitch to Van Nuys and let's do some cocaine! 1.00

03:13:22.000 I know where my limit is with my unemployment. 1.00

03:13:25.000 But you know what I'm saying?

03:13:27.000 Musicians.

03:13:27.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:13:28.000 I do know what you're saying.

03:13:29.000 It's not your call.

03:13:30.000 It's not their call.

03:13:31.000 Yeah, it's idealism.

03:13:32.000 Paris Hilton didn't want to be Paris Hilton.

03:13:33.000 She was thrust into this.

03:13:35.000 Wow, remember her?

03:13:36.000 More ways than one.

03:13:37.000 Of course I do.

03:13:38.000 That's why I brought her up.

03:13:38.000 No, I know, but I was like, wow, that's the name.

03:13:40.000 I saw Zoolander.

03:13:40.000 I told you.

03:13:41.000 I saw Zoolander last night.

03:13:43.000 I told you.

03:13:44.000 Little cameo.

03:13:45.000 I saw her last night.

03:13:46.000 It was amazing.

03:13:49.000 It awakened me.

03:13:50.000 Can we talk about 21 Jump Street?

03:13:52.000 I hate to say this because it's almost like counter-competitive, which is a lot of what America is.

03:14:01.000 There's some weird competition that fuels innovation.

03:14:04.000 But I think it's like anything else.

03:14:06.000 You should only go so fast. 0.99

03:14:07.000 If you're going around a racetrack, you should only go as fast as you can go without sliding off the road and slamming into the fucking trees. 0.99

03:14:15.000 But it can be done. 0.99

03:14:17.000 It's been done.

03:14:18.000 You can navigate it.

03:14:20.000 And I think we need to figure out how much gas we need to give life.

03:14:23.000 Yeah, and if your objective needs to be to get around it fast, that isn't the only...

03:14:27.000 We're so driven into that mentality.

03:14:29.000 Sometimes it's nice to just have a nice drive.

03:14:31.000 Cruising.

03:14:32.000 What a nice treat.

03:14:33.000 A nice drive.

03:14:34.000 Especially in the convertible. 0.99

03:14:36.000 It's fucking chilling, man. 0.99

03:14:37.000 These days I've been really excited to drive, but also you can't stop and pee anywhere, so you can't go too far for me as a lady. 0.99

03:14:47.000 I was like, I want to drive with PCH, and I've done it, and then I was like, oh my god, I have to pee, and there's nowhere to pee. 1.00

03:14:53.000 Fuck it. 1.00

03:14:53.000 Because there's also a pandemic. 1.00

03:14:56.000 I wish it was safe to drive on mushrooms.

03:14:58.000 I wish it was like 100%.

03:14:59.000 It's like Starbucks.

03:15:00.000 Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

03:15:01.000 I just walk on mushrooms.

03:15:02.000 I'm fine with that.

03:15:02.000 But if people said, no, it's actually statistically been proven that you operate faster and more coherent while on mushrooms.

03:15:09.000 So please, take as much as you want.

03:15:10.000 What's going on in Denver?

03:15:11.000 It's decriminalized.

03:15:14.000 Moving on.

03:15:16.000 I believe they're voting on it.

03:15:19.000 Oh, so it's still up in the air.

03:15:21.000 I believe, right?

03:15:22.000 Is it okay if we turn the AC down a little bit?

03:15:24.000 Is that okay?

03:15:25.000 Impossible.

03:15:26.000 We're going to light a fire in this room, Ben Jaffe.

03:15:28.000 What are you scared of?

03:15:29.000 I'm fine with that.

03:15:29.000 Scared of marijuana?

03:15:31.000 You know what?

03:15:32.000 When I smoke something, I get...

03:15:35.000 Yeah, man, that's what it's for.

03:15:37.000 What's that?

03:15:38.000 This is 75 degrees in here? 0.98

03:15:39.000 It ain't shit, right, Jamie? 0.98

03:15:41.000 I'm just saying. 0.99

03:15:41.000 Just say it, bro. 0.99

03:15:42.000 No way, come on. 0.81

03:15:42.000 I just want to say, even though I'm embarrassed about this, but Jamie and I, we did an NAD drip the other day, and he got there faster than me. 0.81

03:15:53.000 First time, I beat him.

03:15:54.000 He beat me.

03:15:55.000 Dang.

03:15:55.000 Smoked him, actually.

03:15:56.000 I didn't realize.

03:15:57.000 He beat me by like four minutes, right?

03:16:00.000 Four solid minutes.

03:16:01.000 Way...

03:16:01.000 It's like five times faster than I've ever done it.

03:16:03.000 Yeah, he went full out.

03:16:05.000 I don't know exactly what that is, but it seems... 0.87

03:16:08.000 It's some ridiculous thing that we do every week.

03:16:10.000 This is what's interesting about Jamie. 0.62

03:16:12.000 It's like we...

03:16:14.000 There's a thing you do.

03:16:15.000 It's called an NAD drip.

03:16:18.000 I forget what it's called.

03:16:19.000 I forget the actual scientific terminology.

03:16:21.000 But it's basically some...

03:16:27.000 What would be the best way to describe it?

03:16:29.000 I don't want to fuck this up.

03:16:31.000 What is NAD specifically?

03:16:36.000 I want to Wikipedia this.

03:16:38.000 I don't want to ruin it.

03:16:38.000 I want the real information.

03:16:39.000 But the idea behind it is it helps your immune system, it helps your body recover.

03:16:43.000 So this is a drip as an intravenous?

03:16:45.000 Yeah, IV. And also, I do an IV vitamin bag.

03:16:48.000 And Jamie and I start doing this every week.

03:16:50.000 Here it is.

03:16:51.000 It feels amazing, man.

03:16:52.000 NAD is helpful for individuals undergoing therapy for substance abuse and addiction recovery.

03:16:59.000 This treatment reduces cravings and withdrawal symptoms, provides energy to the body, and boosts brain regeneration.

03:17:06.000 NAD IV treatments can assist with addiction recovery.

03:17:09.000 But there's some other benefits, too.

03:17:11.000 That's just one of them, but it is really good for that, apparently.

03:17:14.000 It's really good for addiction recovery.

03:17:17.000 So it's a synthetic compound?

03:17:20.000 Yeah, I guess it must be, right?

03:17:22.000 Right.

03:17:22.000 Synthetic's a weird word.

03:17:24.000 It's like organic.

03:17:25.000 What's organic?

03:17:27.000 Is your piss organic?

03:17:29.000 Here's a bottle of organic piss.

03:17:31.000 Thank you.

03:17:33.000 If you have antibiotics, is your piss organic?

03:17:35.000 I'm not sure. 1.00

03:17:36.000 You might be a fraudster. 1.00

03:17:38.000 Shit. 1.00

03:17:39.000 Words are confusing, Joe. 1.00

03:17:42.000 I don't know.

03:17:42.000 There's a lot of them.

03:17:43.000 They're hard to pin down.

03:17:45.000 That's what the Buddhists say.

03:17:46.000 That's what the Buddhists say.

03:17:47.000 They're like, most problems, it's with words.

03:17:49.000 You're right.

03:17:50.000 And they're right.

03:17:51.000 That is what it is, right?

03:17:53.000 That's what I was saying earlier.

03:17:54.000 Words convey intent.

03:17:56.000 That's what they're supposed to do.

03:17:57.000 I want to know what you think.

03:17:58.000 I want to know if you think mean or if you're just making a mistake in the way you communicate what you think.

03:18:04.000 Well, yeah, and I'll say, I don't know if words convey intent, because they're usually not that nuanced.

03:18:10.000 No. 0.98

03:18:10.000 They convey an agreement, which is, okay, this is whatever the fuck this thing is called. 0.98

03:18:16.000 Here's a microphone. 1.00

03:18:17.000 That's a rat. 0.72

03:18:17.000 This is a skunk. 0.72

03:18:18.000 Exactly.

03:18:19.000 That's a tree.

03:18:20.000 Intent is much more difficult to communicate, especially talking about digital communication. 0.99

03:18:23.000 I need to see you, how your body moves, how you're looking at me, all this shit. 0.99

03:18:28.000 For sure. 0.99

03:18:29.000 Yeah, we all, I mean, that's the thing.

03:18:31.000 That's why the threat of being canceled is so scary for people, right?

03:18:36.000 We don't ever want people to be mad at us.

03:18:39.000 Because if we did something wrong and people are mad at us, if it makes sense, we're like, oh my god, I made a mistake and everyone knows!

03:18:45.000 Ah!

03:18:47.000 I got no friends!

03:18:48.000 But we've got to be real careful with what we get mad at and what we don't get mad at. 0.95

03:18:52.000 And here's a great example that fucking everyone, I'm not taking credit for this thought, everyone has had this thought. 0.97

03:18:58.000 It is so fucking insane that you could get arrested for opening your business just a couple of weeks ago, and you don't get arrested for looting that very same business. 0.99

03:19:11.000 Last week or fucking Friday night, like, what happened? 0.99

03:19:17.000 You were gonna put that guy in jail! 0.98

03:19:21.000 What hits close to home for me is Long Beach, 10th Planet.

03:19:25.000 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, Long Beach.

03:19:27.000 I never trained there, but it's in a 10th Planet family.

03:19:30.000 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu, I started out in Hollywood, and now they're in downtown LA. But there's a bunch of them.

03:19:38.000 My brother Eddie Bravo has like, I don't know how many gyms he has all over the world, but one of them just burned to the ground in Long Beach for no reason. 0.96

03:19:48.000 That sucks. 0.85

03:19:50.000 You know? 0.99

03:19:51.000 Laws are made of words.

03:19:54.000 Words don't make sense.

03:19:55.000 That doesn't make sense.

03:19:57.000 What doesn't make sense is that anybody's frustration bounces off the wall of reality to the point where people get victimized that had nothing to do with your pain.

03:20:07.000 Yeah, there's a lot of friendly fire happening right now.

03:20:10.000 I think we all want a lot of the same things.

03:20:13.000 And in that respect, I'm looking for my Orbitz gum because I'd like to chew it.

03:20:19.000 But in that respect, you have such a solid point. 0.99

03:20:24.000 The ridiculousness of the logic is fucking overwhelming. 0.98

03:20:31.000 Everyone's kind of saying the same thing, but they're still fighting. 0.99

03:20:33.000 And you're like, okay. 0.98

03:20:35.000 Someone, someone needs to get on television and tell the looters and tell all the people that have stole shit, we forgive you. 0.99

03:20:45.000 Let's start from scratch. 0.99

03:20:47.000 Just let it go.

03:20:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:20:49.000 You fucked up. 1.00

03:20:50.000 You got caught up in this crazy wave. 1.00

03:20:53.000 And a lot of people say, fuck that! 1.00

03:20:55.000 They need to pay! 1.00

03:20:57.000 Maybe they do.

03:20:58.000 Maybe they do.

03:20:59.000 But is that better for everybody? 0.99

03:21:01.000 It's better for everybody is everybody realize what the fuck just happened. 0.99

03:21:05.000 We collectively lost our marbles as a society. 0.99

03:21:10.000 America collectively lost its marbles. 0.99

03:21:12.000 Well, and there's some marbles that have been missing the whole fucking time. 0.99

03:21:14.000 And there's some marbles that are being pushed around. 0.98

03:21:17.000 Pushed around by shadow characters.

03:21:20.000 Shadowy actors.

03:21:23.000 It's true!

03:21:24.000 It's so dark!

03:21:25.000 It's so dark and I'm glad you brought that up. 0.88

03:21:28.000 Yes, there's darkness.

03:21:30.000 There's 100% agent provocateurs.

03:21:34.000 This has been the idea that this is not going to happen today.

03:21:37.000 It's one of the most provocative and engaging encounters in the history of civilization as we know it in recorded media, right?

03:21:50.000 What year other than 2020? 0.98

03:21:53.000 What year can fuck with 2020 when it comes to all this shit happening together all at once, coronavirus, three-month lockdown of the world? 1.00

03:22:02.000 I think the onset of World War I and the Spanish flu could probably be like, suck our dicks. 1.00

03:22:09.000 Close in terms of bodies and all that, but we haven't realized the amount of time that that took place in. 0.98

03:22:17.000 We never would have imagined in 2020, where we are here in June, that we would be here.

03:22:24.000 If I came to you In December. 0.99

03:22:27.000 And I said, bro, I'm going to tell you some crazy shit. 0.99

03:22:31.000 I've been thinking about that. 0.99

03:22:32.000 But you know what?

03:22:32.000 It made me think of something you were saying earlier, too.

03:22:34.000 I was at this talk.

03:22:35.000 It was about civilization collapse.

03:22:37.000 Where was it?

03:22:38.000 It was at the Getty Museum.

03:22:41.000 And the thing I took away from it was, this guy says, the future is here.

03:22:46.000 It's just not evenly distributed.

03:22:48.000 Whoa.

03:22:49.000 You know what I mean?

03:22:50.000 So, you're talking about 2020 and the insanity of it.

03:22:53.000 If you're living in Syria right now, you're like, what?

03:22:56.000 You know, we've been living in a different...

03:22:59.000 The point being, all these different contexts, it's so hard to relate to ones other than what we perceive to be our own.

03:23:06.000 Yeah, that's a great way of putting it.

03:23:10.000 Yeah, and it's hopeful and intimidating.

03:23:12.000 And I think there's real limitations.

03:23:16.000 We're hoping that we understand how you really feel when you say something.

03:23:20.000 We're hoping.

03:23:21.000 I think I got it!

03:23:23.000 Say it again! 0.73

03:23:24.000 Say it again the same way!

03:23:26.000 You know, it's like we have different ways of saying things.

03:23:29.000 As soon as you have different ways of saying things, but yet you maintain that if you said, I can take it and put it in print and everybody can know exactly what you said.

03:23:39.000 That doesn't make any sense.

03:23:41.000 There's no trust.

03:23:41.000 You can't do that anymore.

03:23:42.000 There's no trust.

03:23:43.000 We need Elon Musk's brain drill.

03:23:46.000 Bring it in! 0.78

03:23:47.000 But we need to be nice to him so he doesn't think everyone's attacking him.

03:23:50.000 He's going to be okay.

03:23:51.000 I'll mediate.

03:23:52.000 I love that dude.

03:23:53.000 There it is.

03:23:54.000 He's a good guy.

03:23:55.000 He really is a good guy.

03:23:56.000 Tescalade, hello!

03:23:57.000 You know what I thought though?

03:23:58.000 She's got his, sorry Elon, his old car registration up on her fridge.

03:24:03.000 I know.

03:24:03.000 Oh, that's right.

03:24:04.000 I want to talk about this.

03:24:06.000 You guys bought, for Honey Honey, the Cadillac Escalade.

03:24:12.000 Well, who knows?

03:24:12.000 Maybe he had a bunch of them.

03:24:14.000 I'm sure he did!

03:24:18.000 He has eight homes in Bel Air.

03:24:20.000 He's like, I don't want a home anymore.

03:24:22.000 Oh, how convenient. 1.00

03:24:24.000 You have eight of them, you fuck. 1.00

03:24:27.000 It's literally on the side of my fridge, the registration. 1.00

03:24:30.000 It says Elon Musk.

03:24:31.000 Bro, he bought Mars.

03:24:33.000 That's what this is all about.

03:24:34.000 I know.

03:24:34.000 He bought it.

03:24:35.000 It was for sale.

03:24:36.000 But you know what I thought?

03:24:37.000 I was in that same podcast.

03:24:39.000 He says, I could either be designing my perfect home or Or I could get us to Mars.

03:24:45.000 I was like, why don't you design your perfect home too, maybe? 0.99

03:24:48.000 Because we'll probably figure out some cool shit. 0.99

03:24:50.000 Because Hyperloop. 0.98

03:24:52.000 He's got to put the Hyperloop together.

03:24:54.000 He's trying to make a new Tesla.

03:24:55.000 He's got a Roadster.

03:24:56.000 He's got a Cybertruck.

03:24:57.000 He can do both.

03:24:59.000 Like a toilet or something.

03:25:01.000 We need that.

03:25:01.000 He just needs a back massage.

03:25:04.000 He just needs a back massage, some electrolytes.

03:25:06.000 What's that?

03:25:06.000 The gun.

03:25:07.000 The gun thing.

03:25:08.000 It's right there.

03:25:09.000 Theragun.

03:25:10.000 I want to get one of those.

03:25:11.000 He needs a Theragun.

03:25:11.000 He needs electrolytes.

03:25:13.000 Yeah.

03:25:13.000 There's a lot of those companies.

03:25:15.000 Tim Tam's a really good one, too.

03:25:17.000 Think a real person.

03:25:19.000 A real person with an elbow. 0.99

03:25:21.000 Rub it in your back. 0.96

03:25:22.000 Hire a professional. 0.83

03:25:22.000 Yeah, those are around. 0.83

03:25:24.000 Look, people are really good at that show.

03:25:27.000 Remember when we used to be able to get massages?

03:25:31.000 You can show up with your intimates.

03:25:33.000 No, I mean...

03:25:34.000 So first world. 1.00

03:25:36.000 Yeah, total fucking champagne problems. 0.99

03:25:38.000 The future. 1.00

03:25:40.000 I got a fucked up back and it's been... 0.96

03:25:42.000 You know, I've been managing... 0.99

03:25:42.000 What's wrong with your back? 0.99

03:25:43.000 All kinds of shit. 1.00

03:25:44.000 Tell me. 1.00

03:25:45.000 What do you want to know?

03:25:46.000 I fixed problems in my back.

03:25:48.000 I can tell you.

03:25:49.000 Well, I started doing...

03:25:50.000 I've helped a lot of my friends that have had similar...

03:25:51.000 So from the violin, I've got like a left shoulder thing up the neck that sometimes I just can't go this way.

03:25:56.000 But it's more physical therapy that I just regularly was doing with like chiropractor.

03:26:01.000 I'm okay, by the way.

03:26:03.000 I was playing pool so much that I was developing this really bad pain in the middle of my back when I lived in New York.

03:26:10.000 Because he spends so much time bent over a table.

03:26:13.000 I would play pool 8-10 hours a day. 1.00

03:26:14.000 So 8-10 hours a day I was bent over this fucking table looking at these balls. 1.00

03:26:21.000 Story of my life. 1.00

03:26:22.000 I was going to say it, you fucking made me do it. 0.98

03:26:25.000 Can you imagine like I'm trying to save for college? 1.00

03:26:30.000 Every day, just balls, balls, balls, balls, balls. 0.92

03:26:35.000 That's a lot of time, dude.

03:26:37.000 Whenever you think about, or I used to read about a lot of drummers, you know, famous drummers, and eight hours was kind of the magic number.

03:26:46.000 All these guys, Tony Williams, even Billy Corgan, who's a great guitar player.

03:26:49.000 Every time.

03:26:50.000 Trying to get me to buy a drum set.

03:26:52.000 I'll buy a drum set, bro.

03:26:53.000 Just think about it, Joe.

03:26:53.000 Just think about it.

03:26:53.000 I'll give you one.

03:26:54.000 Send me one on Amazon.

03:26:55.000 Okay.

03:26:56.000 Are we allowed to support Amazon or are we not woke enough?

03:26:59.000 I don't know.

03:27:00.000 I saw some really cool stuff about supporting black businesses, like buy your books from bookstores.

03:27:06.000 This is my thoughts on Jeff Bezos.

03:27:08.000 He could be way worse.

03:27:09.000 We should be nice to that guy and give him a hug and tell him, like, bro, I get it.

03:27:13.000 No one's supposed to have $180 billion.

03:27:16.000 That's a lot of money.

03:27:17.000 Let's be friends.

03:27:19.000 Jeff, Jeff, I know we don't know each other, but I love you.

03:27:23.000 Okay.

03:27:23.000 Extend the olive branch.

03:27:25.000 You're gonna be okay, man.

03:27:26.000 We're all gonna be okay, but we're not gonna make it.

03:27:28.000 Get him on the podcast.

03:27:29.000 Let him speak for himself.

03:27:30.000 I would love to have you on, Jeff.

03:27:31.000 Jeff Bezos.

03:27:32.000 Order him.

03:27:33.000 Of Amazon.com.

03:27:33.000 Order him!

03:27:34.000 I'm really, really inspired by you.

03:27:37.000 Legitimately.

03:27:38.000 You think he'll get here by Saturday?

03:27:39.000 Kevin...

03:27:39.000 Kevin Hart was on the podcast last week and he was talking about Jeff Bezos.

03:27:43.000 Then he met Jeff Bezos at a party and he made a beeline right to him.

03:27:46.000 And his friend was actually urging him not to do it.

03:27:48.000 Wait, Bezos made that or Kevin?

03:27:49.000 No, Kevin did.

03:27:51.000 He saw Jeff Bezos.

03:27:52.000 Was it well received?

03:27:53.000 And his friend was like, no, don't talk to him. 0.99

03:27:55.000 He was like, get the fuck away from me! 0.99

03:27:58.000 Doing this. 1.00

03:27:59.000 Damn. 1.00

03:27:59.000 What did you see Jeff? 1.00

03:28:01.000 Or maybe it's person.

03:28:02.000 Anything.

03:28:02.000 I'd give Jeff my number.

03:28:03.000 I don't know what Jeff Bezos looks like, to be honest with you.

03:28:05.000 If I saw him at a party, I'd be like...

03:28:07.000 That's the guy.

03:28:08.000 Well, I'll introduce you. 1.00

03:28:09.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

03:28:09.000 Jesus Christ, if you want to be subtle... 1.00

03:28:11.000 No, I'm good.

03:28:12.000 I don't...

03:28:12.000 The internet's not the place.

03:28:13.000 I'm really okay. 1.00

03:28:14.000 Fuck you. 1.00

03:28:17.000 I'll put you in whatever headlock I know how to do. 1.00

03:28:20.000 I'll show you how to kill me. 1.00

03:28:21.000 Triangle. 1.00

03:28:22.000 I'll show you how to kill me. 1.00

03:28:23.000 I'll show you how to kill me. 1.00

03:28:24.000 As long as you wear blackface, you can choke me out and kill me. 1.00

03:28:27.000 How dare you? 1.00

03:28:27.000 Come on. 1.00

03:28:28.000 I want to get...

03:28:30.000 I want there to be so little racism that that's not even a term anymore.

03:28:34.000 Yeah.

03:28:35.000 Can we get to that?

03:28:36.000 I think we can.

03:28:37.000 I hope so. 1.00

03:28:38.000 We can get to the point where there's just morons, assholes, and people you can hang out with. 1.00

03:28:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:28:43.000 I think we can get there. 1.00

03:28:45.000 Morons, assholes, people you can hang out with. 1.00

03:28:49.000 People who love you. 1.00

03:28:50.000 I was thinking about you because, you know, you're a comic. 0.94

03:28:54.000 And the thing is, there's a lot of things to make fun of, but people are so fucking sensitive right now. 0.86

03:28:59.000 And for good reason.

03:29:02.000 That's why I signed with Spotify! 1.00

03:29:04.000 I'm like, I got plans, bitch. 1.00

03:29:06.000 I'm riding this wave right into the rocks. 1.00

03:29:09.000 Come with me!

03:29:11.000 Ben, what are you doing?

03:29:12.000 Are you stretching?

03:29:13.000 He's stretching.

03:29:16.000 That's what weed in California does to you in 2020. How long has this podcast been going on?

03:29:23.000 Three and a half hours.

03:29:25.000 A mere two hours less than the Kevin Smith podcast.

03:29:29.000 Let's play a song and eat a sandwich.

03:29:30.000 What's the Kevin Smith one?

03:29:32.000 If you had a guess.

03:29:34.000 I want to say it's five hours.

03:29:35.000 What?

03:29:36.000 You weren't here?

03:29:36.000 Who was here?

03:29:37.000 No, he was here for the second one.

03:29:38.000 That's what it is.

03:29:39.000 But there was a really long one before Jamie.

03:29:43.000 Jamie...

03:29:44.000 Jamie was a thought in another dimension.

03:29:45.000 I apologize to Gary Clark after our last podcast because I talked so much.

03:29:50.000 Listen, don't you ever do that.

03:29:52.000 Well, I love Gary so much.

03:29:53.000 Just tell him you love him.

03:29:54.000 I do.

03:29:55.000 I love him so much.

03:29:55.000 He loves you too.

03:29:56.000 I love you.

03:29:57.000 He wasn't mad.

03:29:57.000 He loves you.

03:29:58.000 I love him.

03:29:58.000 But I think he was really stoned.

03:29:59.000 Everybody was great.

03:30:01.000 You're freaking out?

03:30:02.000 I freak out all the time, but I just want Gary to know how much I love him.

03:30:06.000 So do I! Ride the wave, Suzanne! 1.00

03:30:10.000 I'm trying!

03:30:10.000 I'm not a very good surfer.

03:30:12.000 Do we want to do Angel of Death or what?

03:30:13.000 Let's do whatcha? 0.65

03:30:14.000 You gotta do both.

03:30:16.000 We'll do both.

03:30:16.000 Let's do this one because I know I'm not gonna fuck it up.

03:30:19.000 Angel of Death is how I met you guys.

03:30:22.000 Let's do what you're going to do now first, Ben.

03:30:24.000 I love that too.

03:30:25.000 Let's do Angel of Death after that. 0.95

03:30:27.000 Because I'm starting to get a little... 1.00

03:30:29.000 I'm pretty fucked up. 0.98

03:30:30.000 Time is your friend. 0.99

03:30:33.000 Yes, it's only a...

03:30:35.000 It's Light Out.

03:30:38.000 How can you tell?

03:30:40.000 It's Light Out.

03:30:42.000 I can tell.

03:30:42.000 Joe knows.

03:30:44.000 I have security cameras.

03:30:45.000 I support that.

03:30:47.000 We're fine.

03:30:47.000 I'm so glad he brought sandwiches.

03:30:49.000 We're all gonna be fine.

03:30:52.000 This might be the first podcast we ever make part one and part two.

03:30:58.000 Jamie, what do you think?

03:31:02.000 If we go straight psychedelics, we should totally do part two.

03:31:05.000 I think we should give a round of applause to young Jamie, who is perhaps the greatest podcast producer in the known universe.

03:31:14.000 And he wears a Columbus, Ohio shirt.

03:31:17.000 Reps Ohio in a strong way.

03:31:19.000 The best one-handed Googler the world has ever known. 0.99

03:31:25.000 Fastest finger shit in the West. 0.99

03:31:27.000 He's telepathic. 1.00

03:31:29.000 I'll start talking about shit. 1.00

03:31:31.000 Teach me. 1.00

03:31:32.000 I mean, weird shit. 1.00

03:31:33.000 Hyenas. 1.00

03:31:33.000 Fucking monkeys. 1.00

03:31:34.000 You guys are like unibrain. 1.00

03:31:36.000 Unibrain?

03:31:37.000 Yeah, there's a thing there.

03:31:39.000 I think we've integrated...

03:31:41.000 Jamie and I are connected.

03:31:46.000 We're in the ether together.

03:31:49.000 What's wrong?

03:31:53.000 You guys are swapping guitars? 0.99

03:31:55.000 Yeah, we're kind of fucked up too. 0.98

03:31:57.000 We brought everything. 0.99

03:31:58.000 I've said this before, I'm gonna say it again. 0.99

03:32:00.000 One of the things I love about music is I don't even know what the fuck you're doing. 0.99

03:32:07.000 I got no idea. 0.95

03:32:09.000 I could say the same about a kettlebell.

03:32:11.000 I could teach you that right quick.

03:32:13.000 I could teach you that really quick.

03:32:16.000 I'm good with the arms, but the core and some of my whiffs, I want to tighten up my whiffs.

03:32:22.000 Jamie's going to film this right after here.

03:32:24.000 We're going to go right over to the gym.

03:32:26.000 I'm not kidding.

03:32:28.000 I'm not kidding either.

03:32:29.000 See, my whoop is not in the right place for kettlebells.

03:32:33.000 You see why?

03:32:34.000 My whoop is on top.

03:32:35.000 When I do kettlebells, that's what I do.

03:32:38.000 It's a whoop strap.

03:32:42.000 Hey, first of all...

03:32:43.000 Do kettlebells! 1.00

03:32:44.000 I switched that bitch! 1.00

03:32:45.000 It makes sense. 0.99

03:32:46.000 There shouldn't be any reason that we're not in the best shape of our lives right now other than depression, so...

03:32:50.000 And age.

03:32:51.000 How dare you?

03:32:52.000 Me!

03:32:53.000 Oh, sure.

03:32:54.000 You're in the best shape of all of us combined.

03:32:57.000 No, we're all gonna be okay.

03:32:59.000 We're gonna be fine.

03:32:59.000 You gotta stay on top of the wave!

03:33:03.000 Don't get locked!

03:33:06.000 How are we doing on two?

03:33:07.000 Hold your breath, soldier!

03:33:09.000 If we had a drum set, we'd be a band right now.

03:33:12.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:33:13.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:33:14.000 Jamie, you don't play drums, right?

03:33:16.000 Come on! 0.61

03:33:17.000 Anybody can play drums!

03:33:18.000 You're trying to con me!

03:33:19.000 You're trying to con me to get a drum set!

03:33:21.000 Stop conning Joe Rogan!

03:33:23.000 I'll definitely learn.

03:33:24.000 I'll learn.

03:33:25.000 I don't want to lose Jamie to SpaceX!

03:33:30.000 As soon as they figure out he can learn everything, we've got a real problem.

03:33:36.000 I don't want to lose him.

03:33:37.000 Teach him how to play drums.

03:33:39.000 What if he gets as good at that as he is his one hand in Googling?

03:33:42.000 No, no.

03:33:43.000 You know what?

03:33:44.000 I was thinking about that.

03:33:44.000 I had this, like, weird, like...

03:33:46.000 I was like, one day, like, 20 years from now, when everyone's like...

03:33:51.000 When, like, Joe's like, Young Jamie!

03:33:55.000 Because that's where your voice is going, Joe.

03:33:56.000 He's young, Jamie.

03:33:58.000 Jamie is young in spirit.

03:34:01.000 Jamie, Jamie, look that up.

03:34:04.000 It's 90-year-old Rogan.

03:34:06.000 I can't wait to see that guy.

03:34:07.000 It doesn't matter how old Jamie gets.

03:34:09.000 He's always been young in spirit.

03:34:11.000 I know.

03:34:11.000 I love it.

03:34:12.000 When I met Jamie, I'm like, this dude's cool.

03:34:14.000 He's just a fun kid.

03:34:16.000 He's Young Jamie!

03:34:17.000 This is a good crew.

03:34:18.000 I had a ponytail back then.

03:34:19.000 I met Young Jamie at the Ice House in Pasadena.

03:34:26.000 That's pretty awesome.

03:34:27.000 Yeah, we were talking about audio engineering.

03:34:31.000 Love that stuff. 1.00

03:34:31.000 What cares, this cool motherfucker? 1.00

03:34:33.000 No, this is a great crew you got here. 1.00

03:34:35.000 Like, things are going well.

03:34:36.000 There's no crew, it's just Jamie and me!

03:34:38.000 I know!

03:34:38.000 That's what I'm saying!

03:34:40.000 That's your crewman!

03:34:42.000 Yeah, I like how you took the same room.

03:34:44.000 I'm just like, we could have been in that other...

03:34:45.000 I'm gonna do it again in Texas!

03:34:48.000 Oh my god.

03:34:49.000 There's always air travel.

03:34:50.000 International.

03:34:51.000 Worldwide.

03:34:52.000 Is there?

03:34:52.000 Yes!

03:34:53.000 Okay.

03:34:54.000 When you get the spaceship fired up...

03:34:56.000 I'll fly you guys out.

03:34:57.000 You call us.

03:34:58.000 Listen, my thoughts about Austin are if I do move there...

03:35:02.000 Is this a public thing?

03:35:03.000 100%.

03:35:03.000 I'm just going to fly people in.

03:35:05.000 I'll fly anybody in.

03:35:06.000 That's cool.

03:35:07.000 It's a day.

03:35:08.000 It's one day.

03:35:09.000 Let's be friends!

03:35:10.000 Because by then, there'll be venues again.

03:35:13.000 And we'll just go there, play a show, do a podcast, hang for a week...

03:35:17.000 You know what I'm saying?

03:35:18.000 You gotta give people the choice to do what they want to do.

03:35:24.000 I don't know if they're right.

03:35:26.000 I don't know if you...

03:35:27.000 We have to inform people and then we have to give them the ability to make decisions and I don't know if you're right.

03:35:35.000 I don't know if I'm right.

03:35:37.000 I don't know who's right.

03:35:38.000 I'm scared.

03:35:39.000 You're scared.

03:35:40.000 Can we talk?

03:35:42.000 Yeah.

03:35:42.000 Can we talk?

03:35:43.000 I don't think gloves work!

03:35:46.000 For what?

03:35:47.000 I don't trust people who drive with masks on.

03:35:49.000 Oh, it's weird. 1.00

03:35:50.000 I think they're pussies. 1.00

03:35:52.000 You're in your own car. 1.00

03:35:53.000 It doesn't make any sense. 1.00

03:35:53.000 Where are you going, bitch? 1.00

03:35:56.000 You're gonna fold! 1.00

03:36:00.000 Interrogation!

03:36:01.000 You're going to fold! 1.00

03:36:03.000 You're going to fold up shop, you fucking pussy! 1.00

03:36:06.000 Hey! 1.00

03:36:07.000 What?

03:36:08.000 Why are you going to mask on? 1.00

03:36:10.000 You're in your own fucking car! 1.00

03:36:12.000 I'm scared. 1.00

03:36:13.000 It's a sky poison!

03:36:15.000 I'm scared.

03:36:15.000 You're making the wrong choice.

03:36:16.000 I thought you just said to make the wrong choice.

03:36:18.000 That's the right choice. 1.00

03:36:19.000 Listen, you're always going to have bitches. 1.00

03:36:22.000 We have to... 0.99

03:36:22.000 Everything is real. 0.99

03:36:24.000 All things are real. 0.74

03:36:26.000 Liars, poets...

03:36:28.000 That's true. 1.00

03:36:28.000 Lovers, thieves. 1.00

03:36:30.000 Everything is real.

03:36:32.000 We gotta all accept it together. 1.00

03:36:35.000 Recognize bitches! 1.00

03:36:37.000 Flush them! 1.00

03:36:38.000 Wake them up in the morning!

03:36:41.000 Get up, son!

03:36:43.000 Give them your love.

03:36:44.000 Could you imagine?

03:36:45.000 I think that's part of what you're saying.

03:36:47.000 It's time to be a man!

03:36:49.000 I'm gonna work out to this every day.

03:36:51.000 Just wake them up!

03:36:53.000 It doesn't happen on its own.

03:36:56.000 You must force it.

03:36:58.000 You must force all of it.

03:37:00.000 Love!

03:37:00.000 Force love!

03:37:02.000 Hugs!

03:37:03.000 Hug your friends!

03:37:04.000 Mike, I love you!

03:37:06.000 Who's Mike?

03:37:08.000 I don't know.

03:37:08.000 It's an imaginary person.

03:37:10.000 I have a couple of Mike friends.

03:37:11.000 Mike Young!

03:37:12.000 Mike Young, I love you!

03:37:15.000 I love what's happening right now.

03:37:16.000 I love a lot of people.

03:37:17.000 We all gotta love each other.

03:37:19.000 100%.

03:37:19.000 I think that's pretty much the key.

03:37:23.000 That is the key.

03:37:24.000 Unlock that door.

03:37:25.000 The key is this. 0.99

03:37:27.000 We gotta accept that we're all living in this fucking fantastic soup of possibilities. 0.99

03:37:35.000 Oh, yes. 0.98

03:37:35.000 And we all come from different backgrounds and different deficits and different strengths. 0.98

03:37:41.000 Different...

03:37:42.000 Different ideas, different perspective, different biases.

03:37:47.000 Preach. 1.00

03:37:48.000 God damn. 1.00

03:37:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:37:51.000 All these things...

03:37:56.000 First of all, we should have a George Floyd memorial, a big one, like a Mount Everest style.

03:38:04.000 Yeah, but why stop there?

03:38:06.000 What is the one with all the presidents?

03:38:07.000 Not Mount Everest.

03:38:08.000 Rushmore.

03:38:08.000 Rushmore, that one.

03:38:10.000 Do a George Floyd.

03:38:12.000 Come on, bro.

03:38:14.000 How about if we did that? 1.00

03:38:17.000 Can you imagine if that one shitty cop, for whatever, let's just let him get away with all the shit that he got away with forever. 0.99

03:38:27.000 There's a ton of complaints about that guy. 1.00

03:38:30.000 Are there?

03:38:31.000 I didn't know that.

03:38:31.000 Oh, yeah, over the years.

03:38:32.000 I didn't get into that.

03:38:34.000 Dating way, way, way, way, way back to the early 2000s, right?

03:38:38.000 2006 was his first complaint.

03:38:42.000 I've ignorantly only just seen the video.

03:38:46.000 As long as you've tweeted, that's okay.

03:38:48.000 He has an insane look in his eye.

03:38:50.000 I don't care if you've gone over the facts, but have you tweeted?

03:38:54.000 I think it's Richmond.

03:38:56.000 Did you have an Instagram black square?

03:38:57.000 Because if you didn't, lose my number. 1.00

03:39:00.000 Fuck you! 1.00

03:39:00.000 I did. 1.00

03:39:01.000 I didn't.

03:39:02.000 I know you didn't.

03:39:04.000 I'm kidding.

03:39:05.000 It's important for me not to.

03:39:07.000 I can't.

03:39:08.000 It's okay.

03:39:08.000 It's not that I don't support the movement.

03:39:10.000 I do, but I don't know who the fuck told everybody to have a black square on fucking election days, on a primary day. 0.99

03:39:18.000 Okay, even if most people said, okay, I'm going to post a black square, and then I'm going to post my other shit, there's for sure a step back. 0.99

03:39:27.000 It was confusing. 0.98

03:39:29.000 The messaging on 911 was confusing.

03:39:31.000 I don't know where it came from.

03:39:32.000 If I knew where it came from, if The Rock got on his Instagram and said, we all need to post a black square To support that we love everyone!

03:39:47.000 We love black people!

03:39:50.000 We love Asian people!

03:39:52.000 Polynesians! 1.00

03:39:53.000 South Americans!

03:39:55.000 We love everybody!

03:39:57.000 If The Rock would just take the reins! 0.81

03:40:01.000 I'll be your press secretary.

03:40:02.000 I think he's going to.

03:40:04.000 I'm going to be his, uh, what's that dude, Stephen, the one dude that keeps getting in trouble, bald guy, Pauly Shore knows him.

03:40:12.000 Stephen, bald guy, Pauly Shore knows him.

03:40:14.000 Stephen Miller.

03:40:15.000 Yeah, that guy.

03:40:16.000 I'll be that guy.

03:40:17.000 Is there ice in the bucket still?

03:40:18.000 For the Rocks administration.

03:40:20.000 Is ice in that bucket?

03:40:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:40:22.000 You know, back to the blackout thing, I like to think that it wasn't...

03:40:28.000 Some kind of weird conspiracy, because I found a really...

03:40:30.000 Which blackout?

03:40:31.000 The Instagram.

03:40:32.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.

03:40:33.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

03:40:34.000 No, I know you are, but I... I should be clear, I should be clear.

03:40:37.000 I don't want people to think I'm disrespecting that.

03:40:39.000 I'm joking around.

03:40:40.000 But one thing that I am...

03:40:42.000 I understand what it is.

03:40:44.000 You want to know how many people are with you.

03:40:48.000 Here's reality.

03:40:50.000 Everybody's with you.

03:40:51.000 Everybody who has a heart.

03:40:52.000 Everybody who loves people. 0.99

03:40:54.000 Everybody who loves Marvin Gaye and Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali and Lawrence Fishburne and Ice Cube and every fucking brilliant...

03:41:05.000 African-American artists across, Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, we love everybody.

03:41:12.000 We love you especially.

03:41:14.000 It's not a fair game.

03:41:16.000 The game that African-Americans are playing is different than the game that European-American settlers, like my family, is playing.

03:41:24.000 We drifted into this game that was established by slavery.

03:41:30.000 It's not our game.

03:41:31.000 It's a different game.

03:41:33.000 And for anyone to, if we're going to progress, we have to acknowledge This didn't start...

03:41:43.000 It's not like everybody's like, okay, you all have four cards.

03:41:46.000 Each one of those cards is worth 40 points.

03:41:50.000 Do your best...

03:41:51.000 Are we playing Monopoly again?

03:41:52.000 Well, you're playing the game.

03:41:54.000 Society.

03:41:55.000 If you want to think about what economic equality is or what...

03:42:02.000 Just any sort of community, like the way we feel about each other.

03:42:08.000 What's equal and what's not?

03:42:11.000 It's not 100% based on what you've done.

03:42:14.000 There's a giant chunk of it that's based on things that are completely out of control.

03:42:19.000 Oh, of course.

03:42:20.000 Right, but that's the thing that doesn't get talked about.

03:42:23.000 If you want to talk about presidential campaigns or gubernatorial campaigns, whether it's the Senate or Congress, no one says, like, hey, hey, hey, this is a crazy game.

03:42:35.000 This is a crazy game.

03:42:37.000 And some people get a million chips.

03:42:40.000 Some people owe chips the moment they're born.

03:42:43.000 They're bad the moment they're born.

03:42:45.000 Yeah.

03:42:46.000 And some of those people swim through those waters and become these incredibly powerful artists.

03:42:54.000 And that's what's so fascinating about America.

03:42:58.000 The James Browns, the princes, the people that swam through that water who are extraordinary.

03:43:05.000 The Marvin Gayes, the Muhammad Ali's, the Joe Frazier's.

03:43:10.000 David and Goliath.

03:43:11.000 So many people.

03:43:12.000 Yeah.

03:43:13.000 No, it's a thing.

03:43:14.000 I'm listening to the David and Goliath, Malcolm Gladwell book, and it has a lot of that, like, defying the odds in a lot of ways, you know.

03:43:22.000 But, you know, in terms of the black box, that is an action that, like, to have a...

03:43:32.000 To do something, even if it's so simple as a digital action, in solidarity, it feels powerful.

03:43:39.000 It does.

03:43:39.000 It feels like a recognition and a cognizance that is a consciousness that, you know, you can sit here and thought, but when you start to open up a conversation or express yourself,

03:43:55.000 and it's scary. 0.99

03:43:56.000 I've been expressing myself and I've been falling on my fucking face. 0.98

03:43:59.000 But I keep getting back up because I want to understand. 0.98

03:44:01.000 And there's a real...

03:44:04.000 Can I stop you right there?

03:44:06.000 Please, yeah.

03:44:07.000 But you weren't falling on your face when you're talking to those people in real life.

03:44:11.000 Like the real video back and forth stuff.

03:44:13.000 No.

03:44:14.000 No problems.

03:44:15.000 No.

03:44:15.000 The problem is Twitter.

03:44:17.000 The problem is talking through text.

03:44:19.000 Sure.

03:44:20.000 If anybody talks to you or you, you guys are really nice people.

03:44:25.000 Like from the moment I met you.

03:44:27.000 Like we met in like 2012, you know? 1.00

03:44:30.000 Holy shit! 0.99

03:44:30.000 I think at the Ice House. 0.99

03:44:31.000 We did.

03:44:32.000 Hey, we did that end of the world show in December of 2012. December 21st, 2012. Yeah, for sure.

03:44:42.000 Hey, 10-year anniversary, y'all.

03:44:45.000 Ben's out of booze.

03:44:48.000 Don't drink that.

03:44:49.000 Ben, pour first.

03:44:50.000 We have patience.

03:44:51.000 He put a joint in his glass.

03:44:53.000 You desecrated your whiskey glass.

03:44:55.000 Then take mine and pour whiskey in the joint one.

03:44:58.000 I'll drink that. 1.00

03:44:59.000 Don't be a bitch. 1.00

03:45:00.000 No, pour whiskey in that one. 1.00

03:45:03.000 Yes, of course I will.

03:45:05.000 That's the point of this.

03:45:06.000 Guys, stop fighting.

03:45:07.000 Guys, stop fighting.

03:45:09.000 No, no, no.

03:45:10.000 Don't drink out of that glass.

03:45:12.000 The real amount of whiskey, like a drink.

03:45:13.000 I don't want to sue you.

03:45:15.000 What are you talking about?

03:45:16.000 If I was at a bar and I bought a whiskey.

03:45:18.000 There's got to be more glasses around here.

03:45:19.000 There's a lot more glasses.

03:45:21.000 Give me the joint glass.

03:45:22.000 I'm not scared.

03:45:23.000 I'm not scared of dirt.

03:45:25.000 What are we going to do?

03:45:25.000 I'm not giving it to you.

03:45:26.000 There's action.

03:45:27.000 What are you scared?

03:45:28.000 We shared a joint!

03:45:30.000 Joe, look.

03:45:30.000 Your life matters more than ours.

03:45:32.000 Give me your fucking weed! 1.00

03:45:33.000 Charcoal in a glass. 1.00

03:45:34.000 Joe, you need to stay alive for the world.

03:45:37.000 Unnecessary.

03:45:37.000 Stay alive.

03:45:38.000 Yeah, we can't give you this contaminated glass of whiskey.

03:45:42.000 He ate the first dip he ever did.

03:45:43.000 It's gonna be fine.

03:45:43.000 I wish I could tell you what's going on in my body.

03:45:48.000 All right, Ben! 1.00

03:45:50.000 What if I just drink out of this fucking thing? 1.00

03:45:51.000 Ben, give it to him! 1.00

03:45:52.000 He uses his show.

03:45:54.000 Give it to him.

03:45:54.000 He wants it.

03:45:55.000 Ben, give me that!

03:45:56.000 Give me that! 0.99

03:45:57.000 Give me it!

03:45:58.000 Give me it!

03:45:58.000 Thank you.

03:45:59.000 Pour whiskey in that!

03:46:00.000 There's whiskey in it!

03:46:01.000 No, pour more like a real drink.

03:46:04.000 It's going to be okay, guys.

03:46:05.000 Jesus, Ben!

03:46:07.000 Ben, Jamie, tell them! 1.00

03:46:08.000 Joe Rogan says we have to conquer our inner bitch! 1.00

03:46:10.000 You're not going to give him feces with hookworms in it. 0.99

03:46:12.000 It's just a little bit of whiskey.

03:46:13.000 It's fine.

03:46:14.000 Fine.

03:46:15.000 Okay, but I still don't have whiskey.

03:46:16.000 I've been doing this forever.

03:46:17.000 This is yours.

03:46:19.000 Take that one.

03:46:20.000 Pour a glass and let's clink.

03:46:22.000 Oh my god!

03:46:24.000 Clink, pour a glass.

03:46:25.000 What's going to happen after this?

03:46:27.000 Zero.

03:46:28.000 Zero things.

03:46:29.000 No, I mean for the long haul.

03:46:31.000 And you're going to start life again.

03:46:34.000 Salute!

03:46:34.000 Hey, I went in on that.

03:46:36.000 I love you guys so much.

03:46:37.000 I love you guys too.

03:46:38.000 You guys are awesome.

03:46:39.000 Are we talking a decade here?

03:46:41.000 I think we've been friends for... 1.00

03:46:43.000 What the fuck? 0.99

03:46:43.000 ...reasonably at least nine years or eight years. 0.99

03:46:47.000 It was that...

03:46:47.000 The first studio I remember I thought was in the Ice House.

03:46:50.000 It was like a side room.

03:46:52.000 I was definitely in Pasadena.

03:46:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:46:54.000 Oh my god.

03:46:55.000 Yeah.

03:46:56.000 You know, my friend Eddie Bravo is a really...

03:46:59.000 He's great.

03:46:59.000 We've met him.

03:47:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:47:00.000 But he's a really big fan of you guys.

03:47:04.000 What?

03:47:04.000 Yeah.

03:47:05.000 And when you guys performed at that show where it was you guys, Joey Diaz, Doug Stanhope.

03:47:14.000 Doug, yeah.

03:47:14.000 One of my favorite times of life.

03:47:16.000 I wore a fucking suit. 1.00

03:47:17.000 I never wear a suit on stage. 1.00

03:47:19.000 You look dope as fuck. 0.99

03:47:20.000 That's the only time I ever wore a suit in a comedy show ever. 0.99

03:47:23.000 It was with us.

03:47:24.000 I was like, if the Mayans were right...

03:47:27.000 If the Mayans were right... 0.98

03:47:29.000 We're gonna go down looking good! 1.00

03:47:30.000 Let's ride this bitch out! 1.00

03:47:32.000 But Eddie Bravo, he's a real fan of music. 1.00

03:47:35.000 You guys were on stage and he was like, God damn, these motherfuckers are talented. 0.99

03:47:40.000 He's a sweet dude. 1.00

03:47:41.000 I love him a lot.

03:47:41.000 But it was really interesting because Eddie had never seen you guys before.

03:47:44.000 He didn't know.

03:47:45.000 And he goes, who are these people?

03:47:46.000 I go, they're really good friends of mine.

03:47:47.000 They're called Honey Honey.

03:47:48.000 And I start telling them this song, that song, Angel of Death, ba-ba-ba.

03:47:53.000 We start talking, let's get wrecked.

03:47:54.000 And then we're sitting backstage and he sees you guys go on stage and he goes, what? 1.00

03:48:01.000 Bro, these motherfuckers are talented. 1.00

03:48:06.000 That was 2012, December 21st. 1.00

03:48:10.000 That was at the...

03:48:11.000 Thank you for having us on that show.

03:48:13.000 It was really special.

03:48:15.000 I love you guys.

03:48:16.000 I love you guys.

03:48:17.000 One of the coolest things about having a...

03:48:21.000 There's us backstage!

03:48:24.000 Oh my god!

03:48:24.000 That's right, Jamie took all these pictures.

03:48:27.000 Jamie, that's a great shot.

03:48:28.000 I put a suit on.

03:48:30.000 Oh, you both look so handsome.

03:48:32.000 I actually had a suit made.

03:48:33.000 Well, because they don't make them for chimps.

03:48:36.000 You gotta go.

03:48:41.000 Yeah, there it is.

03:48:42.000 Oh, that's so special.

03:48:44.000 I want that.

03:48:47.000 Yeah, 2012. Was Duncan there?

03:48:49.000 Yes, he was there.

03:48:51.000 He had his own dressing on, I guess.

03:48:53.000 Didn't he come to hang out?

03:48:55.000 Oh, Bill Burr came down. 0.99

03:48:56.000 I remember meeting Bill that night and being like, holy shit. 1.00

03:49:00.000 Yeah, he's cool as fuck. 1.00

03:49:02.000 Well, I felt like, no, no bullshit. 1.00

03:49:05.000 There's Doug in his cool little plaid jacket. 0.98

03:49:08.000 There's Eddie.

03:49:09.000 There's very few times in all of life where someone has the opportunity to be the person who says, hey, we might all die tonight.

03:49:24.000 So let's rage.

03:49:24.000 This is what I think we're going to do.

03:49:25.000 Let's fill up a giant place.

03:49:28.000 I'm going to get together with a bunch of my friends.

03:49:30.000 Let's love each other.

03:49:31.000 Let's have fun!

03:49:33.000 It was so much fun.

03:49:34.000 Let's listen to music. 1.00

03:49:35.000 Let's talk some shit! 1.00

03:49:37.000 You crushed it that night. 1.00

03:49:39.000 It was a fun night.

03:49:40.000 It was fire.

03:49:41.000 Everybody was really excited.

03:49:43.000 It was a fun night.

03:49:45.000 Even if it didn't happen, and it didn't happen, here we are, eight years later, everybody's okay.

03:49:51.000 Apparently the world was not supposed to end then, unless this is the afterlife.

03:49:55.000 But we keep that place, the Wiltern.

03:49:57.000 I think that's one of the great theaters in LA. Oh yeah, that's amazing.

03:50:01.000 I hope they can open soon.

03:50:03.000 Just open.

03:50:04.000 You can probably a place like that would probably be easier because there's chairs you say, no one's sitting there, no one's sitting there.

03:50:09.000 You know what I mean?

03:50:09.000 This is my motto.

03:50:10.000 It's four words.

03:50:11.000 Let people take risks.

03:50:13.000 You let people do motocross and BMX. I gotta tell you, I am mourning the live show.

03:50:21.000 It's been tough.

03:50:22.000 Yeah?

03:50:23.000 It's hard.

03:50:24.000 It's hard.

03:50:24.000 There's a special connection you have to audiences, right?

03:50:27.000 Yeah.

03:50:28.000 I feel that way too.

03:50:30.000 I'm sure.

03:50:32.000 You can kind of make songs with nobody around, you know, but I can't make any jokes.

03:50:40.000 I can make like...

03:50:41.000 If I... If I had to write out my shit and then go out like randomly without ever trying it out in an audience, I might hit like 70% of the time. 0.99

03:50:53.000 That means like 30% of my jokes are gonna be terrible. 1.00

03:50:59.000 Dude, the pain of 30% of your jokes failing might kill you.

03:51:05.000 No, no, no, don't, no.

03:51:07.000 No, it wouldn't me.

03:51:08.000 No!

03:51:08.000 But I'm just saying, like, 30%, a lot of people paying money to hear jokes, and 30% die.

03:51:18.000 I feel like our set was like 10% worked when we first started and we slowly like over 10 years it took us and we probably got to 85%.

03:51:29.000 That's a fair assessment.

03:51:30.000 I'll hang with that.

03:51:31.000 But don't you think that the 85% you hit when you guys got comfortable Was probably one of the most satisfying experiences you could ever imagine.

03:51:46.000 Because you know you went through the beginning.

03:51:48.000 Yeah.

03:51:50.000 Well, and then we both also went off and did different projects and sort of had different assessments of what that percentage spectrum looked like.

03:51:57.000 And now that we're sort of coming back to, you know, integrating our music together, it feels so differently.

03:52:05.000 Like, we're both such better musicians.

03:52:07.000 And I'd like to think, you know, we've had our separate therapy and our work, and so, like, it just feels different.

03:52:15.000 What kind of therapy do you guys do?

03:52:18.000 Oh, all kinds.

03:52:19.000 I mean, oh my god, you can do the one.

03:52:22.000 I'm so jealous.

03:52:23.000 I've always wanted to.

03:52:24.000 You can't do that? 1.00

03:52:24.000 No, you dick. 1.00

03:52:25.000 Stop doing Botox. 1.00

03:52:27.000 I can't.

03:52:27.000 I couldn't do it before Botox.

03:52:29.000 You did Botox? 1.00

03:52:30.000 Shut up! 1.00

03:52:31.000 Whoa! 1.00

03:52:32.000 What?

03:52:33.000 I've never heard about this.

03:52:35.000 Yeah, I mean, I got a line here.

03:52:37.000 Wow, Joe knew.

03:52:39.000 I didn't even know.

03:52:39.000 Ladies don't want wrinkles.

03:52:41.000 Don't even know.

03:52:41.000 No ladies want wrinkles.

03:52:43.000 None of them.

03:52:43.000 Look, look, [...

03:52:44.000 First of all.

03:52:45.000 Listen, stop shaming the Botox, Ben.

03:52:47.000 I'm not shaming the Botox.

03:52:47.000 It was just a surprise.

03:52:49.000 I'll be honest.

03:52:49.000 A moment of, caught me off guard.

03:52:51.000 First of all, yes, I've had Botox.

03:52:52.000 Have you heard of Brotox?

03:52:54.000 Yeah, I've seen it.

03:52:55.000 I've seen it.

03:52:56.000 I know what it looks like now. 1.00

03:52:58.000 Like, when this shit doesn't work. 1.00

03:52:59.000 I saw a cat kill a squirrel. 1.00

03:53:01.000 I know it's real.

03:53:03.000 I know it's real.

03:53:04.000 The poop is in the pudding, Joe.

03:53:07.000 No, I'll tell you what. 1.00

03:53:08.000 I don't fuck with my lips. 1.00

03:53:10.000 Please. 0.99

03:53:11.000 Thank you.

03:53:11.000 I won't.

03:53:12.000 I don't like that look.

03:53:13.000 And don't worry about your forehead either.

03:53:14.000 And no disrespect to the ladies that do.

03:53:15.000 Stop shooting botulets.

03:53:17.000 I'm so close to your dome.

03:53:18.000 I just had this angry line that was bumming me out.

03:53:21.000 Welcome to my life. 0.99

03:53:23.000 But you're the fucking Buddha of podcasting and the king of Spotify. 1.00

03:53:28.000 I told you I'm the joker. 1.00

03:53:31.000 Whatever.

03:53:32.000 Anyway, let me have my Botox!

03:53:34.000 I wish there was something better that wasn't botulism.

03:53:37.000 No, there is.

03:53:38.000 And you know what?

03:53:38.000 I've done it twice now.

03:53:40.000 I've done Botox twice.

03:53:42.000 And that's a fact.

03:53:43.000 And there's all kinds of things you can do.

03:53:46.000 I do...

03:53:48.000 Well, I have a lot of really great natural skin care.

03:53:50.000 This company called Epicurin that I really like.

03:53:52.000 And then there's also laser light therapy.

03:53:55.000 No joke.

03:53:56.000 Get your joint out of your whiskey, dude.

03:53:58.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

03:53:58.000 While I talk about skin care. 0.87

03:54:00.000 It's an unnecessary joke.

03:54:05.000 He's like, you bro.

03:54:08.000 You jock.

03:54:10.000 I love you.

03:54:11.000 I told you, I'm making up for the fact that Jamie beat me in our weekly NAD IV drip.

03:54:16.000 That's how you win.

03:54:17.000 And that is how you win, Jamie.

03:54:19.000 Are we going to lift weights after this or what?

03:54:21.000 Okay.

03:54:21.000 I'm so down.

03:54:22.000 Sure.

03:54:23.000 Have you been lifting?

03:54:25.000 Yeah.

03:54:26.000 Look at this.

03:54:27.000 Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it.

03:54:29.000 Can you see that? 1.00

03:54:31.000 Get you doing some shit. 1.00

03:54:33.000 Get you doing some windmills. 1.00

03:54:35.000 Do you want to hold plank and take, and like, I'll lose.

03:54:38.000 I want to hold plank till I die.

03:54:40.000 That's how I want to do it.

03:54:41.000 When I'm 75, I'm just going to say, today, these are my words of life.

03:54:47.000 Joe Rogan's going to be in better shape at 75 than we are now at 35. Is your back feeling fine right now sitting in this chair?

03:54:53.000 Yeah, I'm good.

03:54:54.000 Yours is bothering you?

03:54:55.000 What's bothering you?

03:54:56.000 Lower back.

03:54:57.000 Why?

03:54:58.000 What are you doing wrong?

03:55:00.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out!

03:55:03.000 When you say bothering, what do you mean?

03:55:05.000 It's just like an ache.

03:55:07.000 Have you gone to a doctor at all?

03:55:08.000 Have you got an MRI? Is it your taint again?

03:55:10.000 No, my taint's all good.

03:55:12.000 How's your taint, son?

03:55:13.000 He had a taint thing for a while.

03:55:15.000 Imagine your dad grabbing you by the shoulders.

03:55:16.000 How's your taint, son?

03:55:18.000 No, it's a thing.

03:55:20.000 Ben's taint hurt.

03:55:22.000 Pelvic floor, bro.

03:55:24.000 Gotta check that.

03:55:24.000 Gotta address it.

03:55:25.000 Do your kegels. 1.00

03:55:27.000 Jamie fell down off a hoverboard right out here on our polished fucking concrete floors and broke his ass bone. 1.00

03:55:34.000 All the coccyx? 0.99

03:55:36.000 No, I think it's like an SI joint, but it's all the same area. 0.99

03:55:38.000 Fuck, I'm so sorry. 0.99

03:55:39.000 It's pronounced acai. 1.00

03:55:40.000 He figured it out because somebody else is explaining.

03:55:44.000 Who was it?

03:55:44.000 Zach Bitter had a sense in me.

03:55:46.000 That's right.

03:55:46.000 Zach Bitter, the guy who broke the world record 100 mile run.

03:55:52.000 He ran 100 miles faster than any human being has ever ran it.

03:55:58.000 He ran a hundred miles.

03:56:00.000 What kind of shoes was he wearing? 1.00

03:56:02.000 Who gives a fuck? 1.00

03:56:04.000 He can do it! 1.00

03:56:05.000 I give a fuck! 1.00

03:56:07.000 He's an animal! 1.00

03:56:08.000 I want to know what kind of shoes he was wearing!

03:56:11.000 I don't want to tell you!

03:56:14.000 Okay, fine!

03:56:16.000 I want you to look in your soul!

03:56:18.000 Are we still friends?

03:56:20.000 I don't want to stop yelling because it means I lost the fight.

03:56:24.000 I bought a pair of my shoes.

03:56:25.000 They are excellent.

03:56:26.000 They're escalators.

03:56:28.000 So, Jamie, did you say something happened?

03:56:30.000 You addressed your pelvic floor and healed yourself.

03:56:33.000 Is that what you're saying?

03:56:34.000 Yes, through a lot of physical therapy, basically.

03:56:37.000 Almost basic stretching.

03:56:39.000 Can guys do Kegels?

03:56:42.000 I don't know.

03:56:45.000 No, no, no, it's not that.

03:56:48.000 I just pulled up a quick picture and they look like Sauconies.

03:56:51.000 Yeah, I think it's another company.

03:56:53.000 I bought Sauconies.

03:56:55.000 Sauconies make a really good...

03:56:58.000 Oh, Altra.

03:56:58.000 That's right.

03:56:59.000 A-L-T-R-A. I'm gonna ditch this. 1.00

03:57:02.000 Sauconies makes a really good trail shoe, too, though.

03:57:06.000 So this guy ran a hundred miles in like 11 hours.

03:57:11.000 How many hours? 1.00

03:57:12.000 Holy shit! 1.00

03:57:13.000 Wow, look at him! 1.00

03:57:13.000 This was around the track. 1.00

03:57:14.000 He also did it on a treadmill. 1.00

03:57:16.000 Damn! 0.99

03:57:17.000 Yeah, the treadmill was really recently, but he broke the world record on ground for the fastest 100 mile ever. 0.99

03:57:28.000 I like the beard better.

03:57:30.000 Sorry.

03:57:30.000 He's an animal, but he's a really nice guy.

03:57:33.000 Will Forte vibes, says Ben, over there stretching.

03:57:37.000 He runs in these ultras, and he told me about them.

03:57:41.000 They're flat, as opposed to the idea of the heel of a lot of running shoes are fatter.

03:57:48.000 Those are really not the way your body's designed.

03:57:51.000 I wonder what kind of feet he has.

03:57:53.000 How is his arch?

03:57:54.000 I personally have a collapsed arch.

03:57:56.000 I have pancakes for feet. 0.99

03:57:57.000 I have no fucking arch. 0.99

03:58:00.000 It's difficult. 0.97

03:58:01.000 I want to talk about me.

03:58:02.000 I think that dude could run on lava.

03:58:07.000 Look at Joe Rogan talking about running on air.

03:58:11.000 I think he could run on the moon.

03:58:13.000 He just runs.

03:58:15.000 It's a mind thing more than anything.

03:58:19.000 Like having a really good pair of shoes, whether it's Nike or Ultra or Saucony, that's great.

03:58:27.000 I thought it was Saucony, but whatever.

03:58:29.000 Saucony.

03:58:30.000 I'm not weighing in on this.

03:58:31.000 Jamie?

03:58:31.000 I'm sorry I brought it up.

03:58:32.000 Is it Saucony or Saucony?

03:58:34.000 I honestly don't hear anybody ever say it.

03:58:36.000 I just read it.

03:58:37.000 You're 100% right.

03:58:39.000 Yeah.

03:58:40.000 Thank you for drawing attention to this, Suzanne. 0.73

03:58:42.000 That fucked me up with voila forever. 0.58

03:58:44.000 What? 0.98

03:58:44.000 Voila. 0.98

03:58:45.000 Voila?

03:58:46.000 It starts with a V. Like voila.

03:58:51.000 Voila! 1.00

03:58:52.000 Voila! 1.00

03:58:52.000 Yeah, Voila! 1.00

03:58:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:58:54.000 Yeah.

03:58:55.000 I get it.

03:58:56.000 When I first started reading scripts, I was like, Voila!

03:59:00.000 Oh my God! 0.99

03:59:01.000 What the fuck is this? 1.00

03:59:05.000 How can you know all of the things? 1.00

03:59:07.000 The things?

03:59:08.000 Well, just the pronunciations.

03:59:11.000 There's so many variations.

03:59:12.000 And I say this from a place of earnest.

03:59:16.000 I misuse a lot of words.

03:59:18.000 Me too.

03:59:19.000 And mispronounce them.

03:59:20.000 And it's very humbling.

03:59:22.000 No.

03:59:23.000 Oh, yeah.

03:59:23.000 It's only humbling because you feel like you want people to...

03:59:28.000 You need a bodyguard.

03:59:30.000 You know, like a psychic bodyguard.

03:59:32.000 Almost everybody does.

03:59:34.000 Like, come on! 0.99

03:59:35.000 No, get the fuck out of here. 0.98

03:59:36.000 Like, one person who gets it. 0.99

03:59:38.000 This is my psychic bodyguard.

03:59:39.000 Look over your ideas.

03:59:40.000 It's Ben Jaffe.

03:59:41.000 I'm real.

03:59:42.000 Yeah, it's my psychic bodyguard.

03:59:43.000 You don't need me.

03:59:44.000 You got this.

03:59:45.000 Where do I donate?

03:59:45.000 You don't need me.

03:59:46.000 You guys have a PayPal?

03:59:48.000 In fact, we do.

03:59:50.000 Patreon is so weird.

03:59:52.000 I'm trying to figure out how to interact with that.

03:59:56.000 Patreon is so weird.

03:59:57.000 Listen, this is what I think.

04:00:00.000 A lot of people think you shouldn't do sponsors.

04:00:03.000 This is what I think.

04:00:05.000 Let me talk about some sponsors that I actually believe in.

04:00:11.000 And then, let's pretend I never said it.

04:00:14.000 Okay.

04:00:15.000 This is also...

04:00:16.000 And then just go.

04:00:17.000 This way.

04:00:18.000 Should we delete that part?

04:00:20.000 No.

04:00:21.000 No.

04:00:21.000 Okay.

04:00:22.000 Cool.

04:00:23.000 No, because all of my sponsors are like good companies.

04:00:27.000 Like you want to buy a Yeti cooler.

04:00:28.000 That's a good cooler.

04:00:29.000 You want to buy Black Rifle coffee.

04:00:31.000 That's great coffee.

04:00:32.000 But let's forget about all that.

04:00:35.000 That's what we're really talking about, Joe.

04:00:37.000 What are we talking about?

04:00:38.000 You tell us.

04:00:39.000 We're talking about life!

04:00:40.000 We're talking about Honey Honey!

04:00:44.000 This idea that you gotta be scared.

04:00:47.000 Like, scared of what?

04:00:48.000 Wait, but what does that have to do with Patreon?

04:00:50.000 Because if you want money, and you eat...

04:00:53.000 I don't want any sponsors.

04:00:55.000 I just wanted the support of my fans.

04:00:57.000 No, I want sponsors.

04:00:58.000 Buffalo Trees, you hear me?

04:01:00.000 Honeyhoney.com slash Patreon.

04:01:03.000 Yeah, no.

04:01:04.000 It's weird.

04:01:05.000 We haven't Patreoned before.

04:01:06.000 No, I don't.

04:01:07.000 And I always feel weird about other platforms, even though you can't avoid it.

04:01:11.000 I mean, like YouTube, that's somebody else's platform.

04:01:12.000 At this point, our own platform is good enough for me.

04:01:16.000 But there's something to be said, sorry.

04:01:18.000 I would submit that it's better to take money from sponsors and then...

04:01:26.000 Say what you feel.

04:01:28.000 Any sponsors you want to throw our way, just let us know.

04:01:31.000 Say what you feel.

04:01:31.000 But on Patreon, your audience is...

04:01:34.000 That Patreon shit is whack. 1.00

04:01:34.000 But they're your sponsors. 1.00

04:01:35.000 It's the same shit. 1.00

04:01:36.000 No, it's not. 1.00

04:01:37.000 It's a bunch of creeps who want you to not sell out.

04:01:40.000 Do what I'm telling you to, Ben Chaffee! 1.00

04:01:43.000 You fucking pussy! 1.00

04:01:45.000 That's my pussy voice. 1.00

04:01:46.000 Who's... 1.00

04:01:47.000 Who's telling you to do it?

04:01:48.000 Oh, the people that you're saying.

04:01:49.000 YouTube commenters. 0.99

04:01:51.000 Well, who gives a shit? 0.99

04:01:52.000 You said that the first time we met. 0.99

04:01:54.000 The first time we met.

04:01:56.000 You were like, guys. 0.99

04:01:57.000 I'm a hypocrite. 1.00

04:01:58.000 You're a hypocrite. 1.00

04:01:59.000 Wouldn't you like to be a hypocrite, too? 1.00

04:02:03.000 Get the drum set. 1.00

04:02:08.000 Ah!

04:02:09.000 For God's sake.

04:02:10.000 I think there's a compromise here.

04:02:11.000 This would be a good room for it, too, because there's baffling in here.

04:02:14.000 It wouldn't be overwhelming.

04:02:16.000 What's baffling? 1.00

04:02:17.000 I'm so fucked up. 0.99

04:02:17.000 There's a lot of absorptive substances and textures, you know what I mean? 0.99

04:02:21.000 100%. 0.93

04:02:21.000 I mean, out there would sound fucking great. 0.93

04:02:23.000 I don't know what you mean. 0.94

04:02:24.000 That's the thing.

04:02:24.000 You go out there...

04:02:29.000 It's a good spot.

04:02:31.000 If you were going to have a drum set, where would you put it in this room?

04:02:34.000 In this room? 1.00

04:02:34.000 Well, your butt. 1.00

04:02:36.000 I'd put it in that corner, actually, except for the door. 1.00

04:02:39.000 You're going to bump anywhere.

04:02:40.000 I'm not moving the door.

04:02:41.000 No, it's that corner.

04:02:42.000 I'm just saying, me.

04:02:43.000 The one place that can't be changed. 1.00

04:02:46.000 The fucking door. 1.00

04:02:47.000 Not practical, Ben. 1.00

04:02:49.000 No, you're just like everybody else.

04:02:51.000 Social justice warriors!

04:02:53.000 NRA members!

04:02:53.000 I don't see the connection.

04:02:55.000 Don't understand the connection.

04:02:56.000 No flexibility!

04:02:58.000 That corner.

04:02:59.000 Right there.

04:03:00.000 Right there.

04:03:00.000 That corner.

04:03:01.000 I think that corner is the optimal choice.

04:03:02.000 Near my Thai Buddha?

04:03:03.000 Made out of gold?

04:03:05.000 I'm scared.

04:03:06.000 Right here.

04:03:07.000 That's what I actually meant to say.

04:03:09.000 For the record, I'm going to go under the table and I'm going to wait there until things calm down.

04:03:15.000 You didn't have to do that.

04:03:16.000 You didn't have to drink the joint.

04:03:19.000 But I did.

04:03:20.000 This guy.

04:03:21.000 But I did.

04:03:22.000 You didn't have to.

04:03:24.000 But I did.

04:03:24.000 That's true.

04:03:25.000 That was your choice.

04:03:26.000 And I celebrate that.

04:03:27.000 I celebrate both of you.

04:03:29.000 We couldn't do this today if it wasn't for each other.

04:03:34.000 100%.

04:03:34.000 I've said that probably as many times as could be a drinking game.

04:03:39.000 I hate to do this, but I'm going to assume that you know I love you.

04:03:43.000 I love you back.

04:03:44.000 We love you too.

04:03:45.000 But you know, right?

04:03:46.000 Oh yeah.

04:03:46.000 Like when we were like, let's do it, let's do it!

04:03:49.000 We're like, yeah!

04:03:51.000 We know.

04:03:52.000 We know it was going to be hugs and fun. 0.99

04:03:56.000 We've known each other for 10 fucking years. 0.92

04:03:59.000 Ben said, we had a relationship development yesterday, and you said to me about, I said, Ben, I'm really excited for our drive to Joe Rogan because I think we should listen to Run the Jewels and get super pumped up. 0.98

04:04:13.000 Oh yeah, this is my Suze revelation.

04:04:14.000 And you said...

04:04:16.000 Oh, well, I've just been realizing you just like to get excited.

04:04:20.000 It doesn't matter what it is.

04:04:21.000 It's the act of getting excited.

04:04:24.000 No, it matters what it is.

04:04:25.000 It has meaning.

04:04:26.000 Well, if it's exciting to you.

04:04:27.000 But, yes.

04:04:29.000 And that was new to understand.

04:04:31.000 So seen by you.

04:04:32.000 I've known you for 15 years-ish.

04:04:34.000 And I just felt like, oh my god, you get it.

04:04:36.000 Yes, I love to be excited.

04:04:38.000 And you supported me in that moment.

04:04:40.000 Killer Mike for president!

04:04:41.000 Yeah!

04:04:42.000 So what did we do on our drive down here?

04:04:44.000 How do we work in this?

04:04:46.000 Whatever! 0.98

04:04:47.000 Run the juice fast!

04:04:48.000 Run the juice fast!

04:04:50.000 It's Titan FC! Fuck the slow-mo. 1.00

04:04:55.000 This is... 1.00

04:04:56.000 What's that movie with Schwarzenegger?

04:04:58.000 The Terminator. 0.99

04:04:59.000 No, the one where the fucking... 0.99

04:05:01.000 True life. 0.99

04:05:02.000 Conan the Barbarian.

04:05:03.000 Fighting for their lives.

04:05:04.000 Kindergarten Cop.

04:05:05.000 Kindergarten.

04:05:05.000 The nanny?

04:05:06.000 Where he gets pregnant. 0.97

04:05:07.000 Junior.

04:05:08.000 Junior.

04:05:08.000 That's what I meant.

04:05:09.000 It's not called Junior.

04:05:11.000 It is called Junior.

04:05:12.000 The Running Man.

04:05:13.000 No, that's a different movie. 1.00

04:05:14.000 You fucking CIA shills. 1.00

04:05:17.000 It's not called Junior. 1.00

04:05:18.000 None of us were alive when I came out.

04:05:20.000 Pretty sure it was Kindergarten Cop.

04:05:21.000 How dare you?

04:05:22.000 What's going to happen to us after this podcast is released?

04:05:25.000 I don't know, but you know what? 0.99

04:05:26.000 I don't give a fuck anymore. 0.99

04:05:27.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

04:05:28.000 Listen, we're going to be fine. 0.99

04:05:29.000 We're going to be fine.

04:05:30.000 No, I just want to be my real self all the time.

04:05:33.000 There's a thing.

04:05:34.000 This is it.

04:05:35.000 There's a thing that's happening because of the lack of...

04:05:40.000 If you hear someone's words...

04:05:43.000 You kind of get it.

04:05:45.000 If you hear someone's words repeated by somebody else, you don't really get it.

04:05:49.000 If you see them written down, you barely get it at all!

04:05:54.000 That was amazing.

04:05:55.000 That's what's happening.

04:05:58.000 Another beautiful thing about music, sorry.

04:06:00.000 It transcends time.

04:06:04.000 Centuries. 0.98

04:06:04.000 I can play a piece of music and fucking Bach wrote that down and now I can experience the same-ish thing. 0.98

04:06:11.000 I gotta be real careful, everybody. 0.94

04:06:14.000 Shout out to Ben's side project called the Box Street Boys.

04:06:16.000 Check it.

04:06:17.000 Box Street Boys!

04:06:18.000 You heard it here first.

04:06:19.000 We could look that up.

04:06:20.000 I think we should plug Ben Jaffe.

04:06:22.000 No, it's so good.

04:06:24.000 They wear wigs.

04:06:25.000 Let's not before I get angry.

04:06:28.000 I don't want to piss Joe off.

04:06:29.000 No, it's so special, though, and you worked so hard at it.

04:06:32.000 It's lovely.

04:06:33.000 I'm so proud of you.

04:06:34.000 That's not comforting at all.

04:06:37.000 When a girl ever tells you something really so special. 0.93

04:06:41.000 It's fucking awesome, first of all. 1.00

04:06:43.000 Fucking riff that shit, bro. 1.00

04:06:46.000 Oh, there we fucking are, Joe. 1.00

04:06:49.000 You gotta deal with it. 1.00

04:06:50.000 That's a moxie voice. 1.00

04:06:51.000 That's a moxie voice. 1.00

04:06:55.000 Is this you?

04:06:56.000 No.

04:06:57.000 Yes, 100%.

04:06:58.000 Me and Drew Tottenfeld represent.

04:07:00.000 Which one is you?

04:07:00.000 What do you mean?

04:07:01.000 I'm the one on the right, Joe?

04:07:02.000 You said you love me.

04:07:03.000 You can't even recognize me.

04:07:05.000 Oh, now I get it.

04:07:06.000 Okay.

04:07:07.000 It's these fast MTV music video cuts.

04:07:11.000 Who's that cowboy with the white hat?

04:07:12.000 The one who's kicking us off his car.

04:07:14.000 We're just a bunch of hooligans.

04:07:16.000 That's the Box Street Boys.

04:07:18.000 And don't you forget it.

04:07:20.000 That guy has glasses on.

04:07:21.000 Take it from it.

04:07:22.000 He doesn't even know where he is. 0.97

04:07:25.000 Piss on his door!

04:07:27.000 He can't see now! 0.98

04:07:30.000 Look, it's what needs to be done.

04:07:34.000 It's what needed to be done at that time.

04:07:37.000 Why the wigs?

04:07:38.000 It's what needed to be done.

04:07:39.000 It's just a thing.

04:07:43.000 Do you know where the wigs came from?

04:07:46.000 Syphilis.

04:07:47.000 Dude, come on!

04:07:48.000 Syphilis.

04:07:49.000 Because people were losing their hair?

04:07:50.000 Yes. 1.00

04:07:51.000 Holy shit. 1.00

04:07:52.000 Ben, do you have syphilis? 1.00

04:07:53.000 I got my hair, girl. 0.91

04:07:55.000 Go check it out.

04:07:56.000 Do you know the expression? 1.00

04:07:57.000 Check your dick. 1.00

04:07:58.000 Big wigs. 1.00

04:07:59.000 What's wrong with this girl? 1.00

04:08:00.000 She's awesome. 0.83

04:08:01.000 That's what's wrong with her. 1.00

04:08:03.000 She's awesome and she's drunk. 1.00

04:08:06.000 Okay, thanks, Joe.

04:08:07.000 Have you ever heard of the expression big wigs? 0.99

04:08:11.000 That's from guys with huge wigs where they're losing their fucking hair from syphilis. 0.99

04:08:18.000 Big wig? 1.00

04:08:19.000 Yes.

04:08:20.000 It was starting from these royal brothers.

04:08:24.000 When was that, James?

04:08:26.000 Worked out.

04:08:29.000 Was it like France or something?

04:08:33.000 By the way, who's better than Jamie?

04:08:35.000 One hand.

04:08:36.000 Zero people.

04:08:37.000 Jamie's the best.

04:08:39.000 Jamie.

04:08:39.000 Okay, so these two guys...

04:08:41.000 Also looking pretty good, though.

04:08:42.000 What year was this?

04:08:43.000 Can we talk about Jamie's biceps?

04:08:45.000 You can if you want, but let me take my pants off first. 0.98

04:08:49.000 1580. I admit to objectifying my friends, and I'm sorry, but I love it.

04:08:56.000 Can we make that bigger? 0.99

04:08:59.000 Damn, worst epidemic since the Black Death. 0.99

04:09:04.000 So, all these dudes had syphilis because, you know, they were living without... 0.99

04:09:09.000 Long hair was a trendy status symbol and a bald dome could stain any reputation.

04:09:14.000 Why didn't they go the other way?

04:09:15.000 That's unfortunate.

04:09:16.000 We're all bald.

04:09:17.000 No, no, no.

04:09:18.000 They were living without the internet. 1.00

04:09:21.000 Fuck, you're right. 1.00

04:09:22.000 But were they? 1.00

04:09:24.000 No, I'm kidding.

04:09:28.000 Guys, I am on another planet right now.

04:09:32.000 Those are real mushrooms.

04:09:34.000 Here we are.

04:09:40.000 What, Tammy? 0.99

04:09:45.000 Is there a hot tub here?

04:09:47.000 I love this clock.

04:09:48.000 I wish there was.

04:09:49.000 Does the person who makes these clocks continue to make them?

04:09:54.000 Can we get a clock?

04:09:56.000 Can we?

04:09:57.000 Yes, you can.

04:09:58.000 TGT Studios.

04:09:59.000 Thank you for saying that.

04:10:00.000 He's awesome.

04:10:01.000 That's all I'm saying.

04:10:03.000 That's what I'm trying to figure out.

04:10:04.000 They're dope, right?

04:10:05.000 Yeah.

04:10:06.000 It's beautiful.

04:10:06.000 What are those things called?

04:10:07.000 Nixie tubes.

04:10:08.000 They're just like the same thing that could put in a...

04:10:10.000 I could totally make that.

04:10:12.000 ...guitar amplifier.

04:10:13.000 Say that again?

04:10:14.000 Nixie.

04:10:14.000 Oh, they're tubes.

04:10:15.000 Nixie.

04:10:16.000 Yeah.

04:10:17.000 And really beautiful hardwood.

04:10:20.000 Yep.

04:10:20.000 Love it.

04:10:21.000 Got a lot of great shit in here. 1.00

04:10:23.000 There's something that's undeniable about wood. 0.99

04:10:26.000 About a beautiful wood connected with electronics.

04:10:30.000 Are we still talking about Jamie's biceps?

04:10:31.000 No.

04:10:32.000 I think we're moving south.

04:10:34.000 We're moving to his taint.

04:10:37.000 We're moving to his taint. 0.96

04:10:39.000 That pelvic floor.

04:10:41.000 Jamie, we're sorry.

04:10:43.000 Not sorry.

04:10:44.000 You're a girl and you're in love.

04:10:47.000 Go on.

04:10:48.000 And you get to Jamie's taint, you see Nixie Tubes.

04:10:52.000 He's more machine than man.

04:10:53.000 You freak out or you just keep going!

04:10:57.000 Pledge allegiance to the New World Order! 0.98

04:11:02.000 I pray!

04:11:07.000 Nixie Tubes for Jesus! 1.00

04:11:13.000 Oh, wow.

04:11:15.000 Here we are.

04:11:16.000 I think they're from Russia.

04:11:17.000 I don't trust any of them.

04:11:19.000 They're Huawei designed.

04:11:22.000 I wanted a Huawei for a while.

04:11:24.000 Me too!

04:11:25.000 I'm a rebel!

04:11:26.000 Well, because of the...

04:11:27.000 What's that?

04:11:30.000 Sorry.

04:11:32.000 Leica camera lens.

04:11:34.000 Mmm, beautiful.

04:11:35.000 But, because I like taking photos.

04:11:37.000 Other side project, Jamie.

04:11:39.000 It wasn't Leica?

04:11:41.000 I have one.

04:11:43.000 Soggy.

04:11:43.000 No, I'm talking about the Huawei phone.

04:11:45.000 I know, I know.

04:11:46.000 They didn't put this lens.

04:11:47.000 So it was a lie?

04:11:49.000 Not a lie, but I read into it.

04:11:51.000 They hired Leica engineers to produce a Leica-style image through using software and whatnot.

04:11:59.000 They didn't actually have Leica glass.

04:12:01.000 I mean, let's be honest.

04:12:02.000 The iPhone takes a great photo, and I also have a little Fujifilm with a 50mm lens that I love, and it's really fun to learn how to use.

04:12:11.000 I'm getting there.

04:12:12.000 But overall, the Huawei is...

04:12:21.000 What's going on with you?

04:12:24.000 Is it your grundle again?

04:12:30.000 Jamie, you know a lot about photography and stuff like that.

04:12:34.000 Do you think that there's certain cults of brands like Sony versus Leica?

04:12:42.000 For the longest time it was Canon versus Nikon.

04:12:45.000 Right, right, right.

04:12:45.000 The same way it's Apple versus Android.

04:12:48.000 There's a thing they do with hunting optics, too.

04:12:52.000 I use a lot of different stuff.

04:12:54.000 Leica has a whole different brand that is extended beyond cameras and whatnot.

04:12:59.000 But it's like they're all good, though.

04:13:02.000 It's like they're in denial that they're not all good.

04:13:05.000 It's very highly engineered glass from hundreds of years and proprietary methods.

04:13:12.000 It's so hard to detect the differences.

04:13:15.000 Like guys have to get them on tripods and like stare through the lenses and look at a parakeet and go, Mike, it's close.

04:13:23.000 That is the indicator.

04:13:25.000 And then they look at another one.

04:13:26.000 This is like a lens cut in half. 1.00

04:13:28.000 What the fuck? 0.99

04:13:30.000 I don't know for anybody that's looking. 1.00

04:13:33.000 That's really small.

04:13:34.000 I don't know the actual number of size.

04:13:36.000 Describe it?

04:13:37.000 This is really probably only a 2 or 3 inch lens.

04:13:40.000 And there's all that mechanic stuff going on inside there.

04:13:44.000 There's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 different...

04:13:47.000 What does the aperture get down to?

04:13:49.000 So it runs from 2.4...

04:13:51.000 Science!

04:13:51.000 It's like 16. I don't know this one in particular, but it's probably like a 2.4 or a 2.0.

04:13:56.000 I think we'll be cutting an $11,000 lens in half just to show it.

04:14:00.000 I got some other stuff going on.

04:14:03.000 Why do people wear powder wings?

04:14:06.000 Leica.

04:14:07.000 But this is why it's so expensive.

04:14:09.000 It's because they put all this into a tiny, tiny, tiny little package.

04:14:13.000 Like I'm saying, I can't show it on camera because I don't have it, but it's like two inches by two inches.

04:14:18.000 It's like a little two-inch cylinder.

04:14:20.000 Yeah.

04:14:20.000 And DSLR cameras that would be similar to that.

04:14:22.000 The lens is 3 to 5 pounds.

04:14:25.000 Right.

04:14:25.000 Maybe 11 pounds.

04:14:28.000 Somewhere like 2 feet long.

04:14:30.000 That's huge.

04:14:31.000 That's too much.

04:14:32.000 No!

04:14:36.000 I want a camera nerd out with you later. 1.00

04:14:38.000 I only want an 8 inch hot dog.

04:14:38.000 No 12 inches ever in my part.

04:14:42.000 Joseph.

04:14:44.000 Hot dogs. 0.99

04:14:45.000 What the fuck do we do now, guys? 0.99

04:14:47.000 Oh my god. 0.98

04:14:49.000 How's everyone feeling?

04:14:51.000 Everybody breathe. 1.00

04:14:53.000 Let's Wim Hof our way out of this shit. 0.99

04:14:57.000 Wait, that's the breathing technique. 0.99

04:14:59.000 What's his name?

04:15:00.000 Wim Hof. 0.67

04:15:02.000 Whoa.

04:15:04.000 Yes.

04:15:05.000 He's the first guy I ever talked to. 0.99

04:15:07.000 Didn't give a fuck if I breath out of my nose. 0.98

04:15:17.000 I've had people send me videos of this man. 0.99

04:15:21.000 Then a certain dance between the cold and your breath begins to start up, begins to charge your body.

04:15:31.000 After 25 breaths like that, Very conscious in the cold.

04:15:39.000 The cold is a force and it has its impact.

04:15:42.000 I love his shirt, by the way.

04:15:43.000 And you go along with the cold and what it does on the physiology and you use your breathing.

04:15:50.000 Now I know what happens physiologically, but then those days it was all by feeling.

04:15:55.000 What does happen physiologically?

04:15:58.000 You become fully charged.

04:16:00.000 The carbon dioxide goes out.

04:16:03.000 O2 begins to roam freely throughout the body and fills up every cell.

04:16:10.000 And the pH levels go up.

04:16:13.000 When you say you altered your breathing, what you're showing me here is just breathing in and breathing out.

04:16:18.000 What's specifically different about that than normal breathing?

04:16:22.000 The way I used it was after 25 breaths.

04:16:29.000 It was so fully charged.

04:16:33.000 I could stay like five to seven minutes under the ice.

04:16:37.000 Every time.

04:16:39.000 Very controlled.

04:16:39.000 That means that there is not only a whole lot of oxygen inside the body, but the pH levels go up.

04:16:48.000 Now this, and later on I began to understand by signs, by thinking about it.

04:16:54.000 It's saturated with oxygen.

04:16:55.000 Yeah, deducting and all that.

04:16:58.000 I saw that we are able to tap into the brainstem, the adrenaline.

04:17:05.000 We showed lying in bed, people producing more adrenaline.

04:17:10.000 Now I know how to show it to people just in a couple of days.

04:17:14.000 That means every listener right now is able to do that.

04:17:18.000 So we have proven this scientifically and it showed that people lying in bed were able to produce more adrenaline than somebody in fear going for its first monkey jump.

04:17:34.000 I'm still confused as to how you're doing anything differently other than deep breathing.

04:17:39.000 You're taking a deep breathe in and deep breathe out.

04:17:41.000 No, we retent from breathing after exhalation.

04:17:46.000 Retent? 0.59

04:17:47.000 We stop breathing after exhalation.

04:17:50.000 Once, breathe in.

04:17:51.000 Show me the method.

04:17:52.000 If you go with me 30 times.

04:17:57.000 Okay.

04:18:00.000 Let go.

04:18:01.000 Fully in.

04:18:02.000 Once again.

04:18:03.000 Fully in.

04:18:04.000 Letting go.

04:18:07.000 Right on.

04:18:08.000 Fully in.

04:18:09.000 But letting go.

04:18:11.000 Not fully out.

04:18:13.000 Just letting go.

04:18:14.000 But fully in.

04:18:16.000 Once again.

04:18:18.000 And once again.

04:18:19.000 Come on.

04:18:19.000 Don't hesitate.

04:18:21.000 Give it.

04:18:23.000 It's about changing the chemistry right now in your body.

04:18:26.000 So I'm breathing in...

04:18:28.000 You become lightheaded and at a certain point you're so fully charged and the pH levels go to a very high level, you're able to stay without air in the lung for minutes.

04:18:43.000 What?

04:18:44.000 Just keep on.

04:18:46.000 The feeling is understanding.

04:18:49.000 Go on.

04:18:50.000 And deeply in.

04:18:51.000 Letting go.

04:18:53.000 Deeply in, let him go.

04:18:57.000 Deeply in, let him go.

04:18:59.000 Ten times more.

04:19:01.000 Deeply in, let him go.

04:19:03.000 Deeply in, let him go.

04:19:05.000 I'm gonna time it.

04:19:07.000 Let him go.

04:19:09.000 Deeply in, let him go.

04:19:11.000 Give it fully.

04:19:12.000 Take him in, let him go.

04:19:15.000 Take him in, let him go.

04:19:18.000 Take him in.

04:19:19.000 Letting go.

04:19:20.000 No hesitation.

04:19:21.000 I do this with the ovary as well.

04:19:24.000 And it feels wonderful.

04:19:28.000 Take him in.

04:19:30.000 Fully letting go.

04:19:31.000 All through the mouth?

04:19:32.000 Not like no mouth.

04:19:34.000 Okay, five times more.

04:19:37.000 Deeply in.

04:19:38.000 Letting go.

04:19:40.000 Deeply in.

04:19:41.000 Letting go.

04:19:43.000 Deeply in.

04:19:44.000 Letting go.

04:19:45.000 Two times more.

04:19:49.000 Letting go and stop.

04:19:52.000 Just stop.

04:19:54.000 Witness.

04:19:55.000 Without air in the lungs, you are able to stay much more than normally.

04:20:04.000 Why?

04:20:05.000 Because we changed your chemistry.

04:20:08.000 Carbon dioxide went out, O2 went up, filled up all the cells and the pH levels go up.

04:20:16.000 Then we are able to tap into the central nervous system and at the end we got the brainstem.

04:20:24.000 And that's the place of the pineal gland, hypothalamus, pituitary gland. 0.99

04:20:29.000 And the pineal gland makes the secretion of adrenaline in dangerous situations.

04:20:35.000 Normally we do not get into it because of our shallow breathing.

04:20:40.000 But this is the way to get into the most primitive part, the reptilian brain, without many difficulties and fend off bacteria, getting better into the endocrine systems.

04:20:54.000 We'll talk about it later.

04:20:57.000 You're past 110 in minutes and you're still on.

04:21:03.000 That shows that the capacity to fill yourself up with oxygen is a lot more than we normally use.

04:21:12.000 And as we do not use it, we are not making a use of the full capacity of our physiology.

04:21:18.000 Now we found out we got a different layers.

04:21:22.000 And we never use it.

04:21:23.000 And this is the way to learn to use it, to tap in and bang, into the primitive brain, into the endocrine systems, immune systems, the way nature has meant it to be.

04:21:34.000 Everybody is able to do it.

04:21:37.000 145, and this is only round one.

04:21:40.000 If we would do like three rounds, you would go to three minutes, four minutes, without air, without training.

04:21:46.000 It only shows the capacity to store up oxygen inside.

04:21:51.000 We never use that.

04:21:54.000 You're doing great.

04:21:55.000 See, he's doing already 2, 5, almost 2, 10. Whenever you feel the urge to breathe, you don't need to force.

04:22:03.000 It's only learning how to oxygenize the body and all the cells.

04:22:08.000 You're going great, man.

04:22:10.000 Nice one.

04:22:12.000 Feels good, huh?

04:22:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay.

04:22:17.000 2, 30-er.

04:22:20.000 Yeah.

04:22:21.000 When you feel the urge to breathe, you breathe in fully and keep it for 10-15 seconds.

04:22:26.000 Then that's one round.

04:22:27.000 Fully in and keep it.

04:22:30.000 And now you press your belly. 0.89

04:22:34.000 Yeah.

04:22:36.000 The neck and then the head.

04:22:39.000 And now you are able to tap into the brainstem.

04:22:44.000 Yeah, that's it!

04:22:45.000 That's insane.

04:22:46.000 How weird is it that we need to breathe?

04:22:51.000 You don't even think about it.

04:22:52.000 You need gas in your cell sacks.

04:22:58.000 It hit me when he was talking about shallow breathing because when I was really dealing with insomnia, that would be like this thing.

04:23:05.000 I never felt like I could...

04:23:07.000 I just didn't have that capacity.

04:23:11.000 I want to say, too, something you talk about a lot.

04:23:13.000 You talked about it today.

04:23:14.000 Singing is a healthy expression of that kind of breathing.

04:23:18.000 Sure.

04:23:18.000 Yeah.

04:23:18.000 I injured my vocal cords and had to go through therapy, and this style of breathing, this is something was addressed and learned to do, and it was incredible how fast I healed myself just through breathing.

04:23:30.000 There's also something when people talk loudly, whether they're singing or speaking, there's a thing that we do where we strain the vocal cords.

04:23:41.000 Sure, yeah.

04:23:43.000 Yeah, and that's been a crazy, we were talking about it today.

04:23:47.000 Pushing when it comes to your breath and singing is completely antithetical to what you're trying to do.

04:23:53.000 And now you're like caught up in the momentum of trying to get people to pay attention.

04:23:59.000 But someone like Marvin Gaye or James Brown, they're so calm in those moments, or at least in relation to that behavior, that they're able to resonate with their bone structure in a way that makes you react emotionally.

04:24:13.000 Because they're so connected to their breath.

04:24:17.000 People talk, Ginsburg talked about Bob Dylan that way.

04:24:19.000 He said he got to this point when he was at kind of his peak in the 60s of that power.

04:24:25.000 He said Dylan became a column of air.

04:24:27.000 He's just breathing.

04:24:28.000 He just turned into a focused breath.

04:24:31.000 I think that Sturgill, when he nails it...

04:24:37.000 He's an incredible artist.

04:24:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

04:24:40.000 Sturgill, he catches this fucking vibration when some of his songs are like, Jesus Christ. 0.99

04:24:46.000 Yeah, he's special. 0.99

04:24:47.000 And I think he's lucky it came so late for him because he had so much ground underneath him that he could make real artistic decisions.

04:24:55.000 Yeah, 100%.

04:24:57.000 I feel like that about Nathaniel Rateliff, too.

04:24:59.000 A lot!

04:25:00.000 It came later for him, too.

04:25:01.000 Almost all!

04:25:03.000 It doesn't mean you have to have it.

04:25:05.000 Taylor Swift could be amazing.

04:25:08.000 You don't have to define her by who she was X amount of years ago. 1.00

04:25:12.000 It's all bullshit. 0.98

04:25:14.000 But the reality is, whatever it is, it's how you address it and how you express it. 1.00

04:25:23.000 Yeah. 0.97

04:25:24.000 And when you get a guy like Sturgill that was working on the fucking railroads until he's like 36. Yeah. 0.98

04:25:30.000 It's authentic as fuck. 0.99

04:25:32.000 He was working on railroads! 0.99

04:25:34.000 Yeah, Ryan Bingham's a friend of ours.

04:25:36.000 We've toured with him a bunch.

04:25:38.000 He's similar in that, like...

04:25:41.000 I remember Ryan Bingham, he's a beautiful man.

04:25:45.000 He was in...

04:25:46.000 Jeff Bridges.

04:25:49.000 Jeff Bridges' movie.

04:25:50.000 Crazy Heart.

04:25:51.000 Crazy Heart.

04:25:51.000 That was a great movie.

04:25:53.000 He wrote the theme song for it.

04:25:54.000 He won an Oscar for it.

04:25:55.000 And he dedicated his Oscar to his wife.

04:25:57.000 It was really beautiful.

04:25:59.000 But Ryan Bingham, we toured with him a lot.

04:26:02.000 And I remember saying, Ryan, I love your...

04:26:04.000 You have such great teeth. 1.00

04:26:06.000 He's like, this shit ain't real. 1.00

04:26:07.000 I got my teeth kicked out by a bull when I was 18. And I was like, right. 1.00

04:26:12.000 Sorry.

04:26:12.000 Gotcha.

04:26:13.000 But, like, he is just, like, he is a cowboy.

04:26:16.000 He's from Texas.

04:26:17.000 He's an incredible songwriter, and he's a wonderful person.

04:26:20.000 And he's one of those that you're just like, that is the real deal.

04:26:23.000 And, you know, we're all the real deal in our real different ways, you know?

04:26:28.000 But, like, some people have had, like...

04:26:32.000 Acutely different paths like Sturgill and it's just like tip of the hat man.

04:26:37.000 It's it's really really special like everybody It's all different, you know It's like it's not a contest see who's fucked up more not that that's not what I want that's what so another Music thing is that's a medium.

04:26:53.000 You just expressing it's not accomplishment base It's different from sport sport offers different shit, but with music The people with the clearest expression of self are the communicators, as opposed to this degree of achievement.

04:27:08.000 And I think that's just a beautiful and linguistic part of it.

04:27:13.000 It's weird, right? 1.00

04:27:14.000 Because sports is like, I want to dunk on you, you want to dunk on me, fuck you! 1.00

04:27:20.000 Competition is an interesting thing in terms of development. 1.00

04:27:24.000 It helps people excel, but it also represses people.

04:27:27.000 It's like that big fish in a little pond, little fish in a big pond thing.

04:27:33.000 This is the problem.

04:27:35.000 Competition without compassion.

04:27:37.000 It's not that competition is bad.

04:27:40.000 Competition is good. 1.00

04:27:41.000 But being a dick is bad. 1.00

04:27:43.000 And the problem is the two of them go hand to hand. 1.00

04:27:47.000 That's really the problem.

04:27:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

04:27:48.000 Is that people that want to win in competition, they can also be a dick. 0.99

04:27:52.000 Yeah. 0.98

04:27:52.000 It's not necessary. 0.98

04:27:54.000 Which is why when I beat you in pool the last time I was on the podcast, I didn't bring it up.

04:27:58.000 I was like, internally just like...

04:28:00.000 Dude, I had like three balls on the table.

04:28:03.000 Suzanne shot that eight in the corner. 1.00

04:28:05.000 I was like, no.

04:28:09.000 No! 1.00

04:28:09.000 All bullshit. 1.00

04:28:10.000 Suzanne Santo can play a little bull. 1.00

04:28:13.000 I noticed he didn't mention me in that.

04:28:16.000 Ben Jaffe can play a little bull as well. 1.00

04:28:19.000 But you never beat me, bitch. 1.00

04:28:22.000 Suzanne beat me at least one game. 1.00

04:28:24.000 But in your defense, we were super fucked up. 0.99

04:28:27.000 We were definitely super fucked up and we were having fun. 0.99

04:28:30.000 We started talking about Spotify and I couldn't hit a ball. 0.99

04:28:33.000 Ah!

04:28:34.000 I was like, I don't know what happened.

04:28:36.000 Yeah, it was tough.

04:28:37.000 We weren't focused.

04:28:38.000 We weren't focused.

04:28:39.000 I don't even believe life. 1.00

04:28:40.000 How are people going to sort through your shit on Spotify? 1.00

04:28:44.000 It's the same people, man. 0.99

04:28:46.000 If you have Spotify, you can't have iTunes.

04:28:49.000 I don't know how many carryover people there are between both platforms. 0.97

04:28:55.000 I'm just saying, I guess you can absolutely search shit on Spotify. 0.94

04:28:59.000 I don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00

04:29:00.000 You definitely can search shit. 0.99

04:29:02.000 I was just thinking, I don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00

04:29:05.000 Stop talking.

04:29:06.000 No, it's alright.

04:29:07.000 Thanks, guys.

04:29:08.000 It's weird.

04:29:11.000 It's weird.

04:29:12.000 Move it to a new platform.

04:29:15.000 It's weird.

04:29:15.000 Yeah.

04:29:16.000 And it's mostly a mobile thing.

04:29:18.000 I guess that's why I always, when I think Spotify, I think my phone.

04:29:21.000 You know, when I think YouTube, I think my computer.

04:29:24.000 I mean, I do, but...

04:29:25.000 But I think you can see it on everything.

04:29:27.000 Yeah, you're right.

04:29:28.000 You can listen on everything, right?

04:29:30.000 Yeah.

04:29:31.000 Is there a timeline with it?

04:29:34.000 September it starts, and then it becomes only on Spotify in January.

04:29:41.000 Whoa. 0.99

04:29:42.000 I don't know if this is fucked up. 0.99

04:29:43.000 Did YouTube counteroffer? 0.99

04:29:46.000 There was no conversation.

04:29:48.000 No conversation?

04:29:50.000 Interesting.

04:29:51.000 YouTube?

04:29:53.000 I have such a computer.

04:29:54.000 There's nothing, I don't have anything against YouTube, especially since I'm so drunk.

04:30:02.000 You are not alone, sir.

04:30:04.000 Yeah, let's work out.

04:30:05.000 Are we done?

04:30:06.000 Can we work out?

04:30:07.000 Yeah, we definitely can.

04:30:09.000 There's nothing wrong with anything.

04:30:11.000 It's risky, Ben.

04:30:13.000 That's a good thing. 1.00

04:30:14.000 But, you know, the thing was like Spotify was like, let's do this shit together. 0.99

04:30:20.000 I'm like, okay. 0.99

04:30:21.000 Yeah.

04:30:23.000 This is dangerous.

04:30:24.000 These waters are fraught with peril.

04:30:26.000 People are taking down ships and demonetizing.

04:30:30.000 You were already global before, but now it's like...

04:30:34.000 It's great, man.

04:30:37.000 Thank you.

04:30:38.000 We have been friends for a long time, and I don't understand any of this.

04:30:42.000 No, but you do something important.

04:30:44.000 It's special.

04:30:47.000 Allegedly.

04:30:48.000 Accept it.

04:30:48.000 Accept whatever.

04:30:50.000 I'm going to tell you what I think.

04:30:54.000 It's weird for me and for you.

04:30:56.000 It's hashtag powerful.

04:30:59.000 She just did it.

04:31:00.000 I did it.

04:31:01.000 Jamie, what's the time on this podcast?

04:31:03.000 So long.

04:31:04.000 It's 6.30 now.

04:31:05.000 What time?

04:31:07.000 Four hours and 30 minutes?

04:31:09.000 Yeah, I already had to.

04:31:09.000 We're technically in my part, too.

04:31:11.000 I'm going to have to do some magic here to get it together.

04:31:13.000 Oh, Jesus.

04:31:15.000 Should we wrap it up right now?

04:31:16.000 Ben, let's play one song.

04:31:17.000 Let's play Whatcha Gonna Do Now because that's all I can conjure up.

04:31:21.000 Please, I'm on mushrooms.

04:31:23.000 I'm with you. 0.99

04:31:24.000 For fuck's sake. 1.00

04:31:25.000 Hold on. 0.99

04:31:25.000 There's a technical issue. 0.99

04:31:27.000 No, no, no.

04:31:27.000 Great.

04:31:27.000 I think we're fine.

04:31:28.000 If it's not, I'll figure it out.

04:31:30.000 We're going to play Whatcha Gonna Do Now because that's... 0.99

04:31:33.000 And I'm real fucked. 0.99

04:31:34.000 Me too. 0.99

04:31:35.000 I love that song.

04:31:36.000 Okay, cool.

04:31:36.000 That's great news.

04:31:38.000 Listen, I love you guys.

04:31:39.000 This is so exciting.

04:31:41.000 It's so great.

04:31:42.000 It's so great.

04:31:43.000 What's the most exciting about this is this is one of the rare...

04:31:47.000 Okay. 0.98

04:31:49.000 The most exciting thing is not just that I love you guys, but it's also, this is a rare moment where people get publicly fucked up. 0.97

04:31:58.000 Yeah. 0.97

04:31:59.000 And just...

04:32:00.000 Yeah.

04:32:01.000 And we can talk about our problems openly. 1.00

04:32:04.000 Let shit fly. 1.00

04:32:05.000 It feels nice. 1.00

04:32:05.000 Let it fly, baby. 1.00

04:32:08.000 What, are you gonna live forever?

04:32:09.000 I mean, it's nice to do a four and a half hour podcast with you when we haven't seen you together in so long.

04:32:15.000 I know.

04:32:15.000 It's reunion times, folks.

04:32:17.000 It means, no bullshit, it means a lot to me.

04:32:20.000 Oh my god, it means a lot to us. 0.71

04:32:21.000 When I first met you guys, I wasn't even performing at the comedy store.

04:32:26.000 What?

04:32:26.000 Oh, that's right.

04:32:27.000 That's right.

04:32:28.000 I met you guys during the boycott era.

04:32:30.000 That's right.

04:32:31.000 That, you know, I love you guys.

04:32:34.000 You're awesome.

04:32:35.000 Oh my god, we love you too.

04:32:36.000 Love you back.

04:32:36.000 So much.

04:32:38.000 Alright, let's sing to the people and sing to Joe and Jamie.

04:32:57.000 Oh baby, that fire's coming down Right into your walls, right out of your mouth And everything you love's just ash on the ground Oh,

04:33:16.000 so what you gonna do now?

04:33:21.000 So you run to the river, you run to the sea You sift through the rubble and search the debris But you won't find anything if you don't find peace Ooh,

04:33:41.000 so what you gonna do now?

04:33:47.000 Don't wait till you die Cause you can always change your mind and make you right So why are you still waiting outside? 0.90

04:34:16.000 Maybe your mama didn't treat you right Maybe you just didn't sleep last night You know I don't give a damn why you wanna fight Oh, 0.73

04:34:35.000 so what you gonna do now?

04:34:41.000 Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind and make it right So why are you still waiting outside?

04:35:31.000 So come out from the weeds and into my arms Oh babe, I know the dark and how it can harm you Yeah, I've had my conscience rip me apart too So here's what we're gonna do now Take all of your needs and all of your sins And

04:36:01.000 all of the losses you threw to the wind We'll carry the weight if it breaks every limb Oh, and that's what we're gonna do now Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind and make it right

04:36:31.000 So why are you still waiting outside?

04:36:37.000 You're still waiting outside You're still waiting outside That was beautiful.

04:36:53.000 Thanks for having us, Joe.

04:36:54.000 Thank you so much.

04:36:55.000 Can you please do Angel of Death?

04:36:57.000 One more.

04:36:58.000 We can do it.

04:36:59.000 It's going to be sloppy, though.

04:37:00.000 I'm going to take my headphones off.

04:37:02.000 I'm going to chew some gum because my throat's real dry.

04:37:05.000 All right, Joe.

04:37:06.000 You asked for it.

04:37:07.000 Please.

04:37:07.000 Literally.

04:37:08.000 I feel like this is what brought us together.

04:37:11.000 This one's going to tear us apart.

04:37:13.000 No!

04:37:16.000 No!

04:37:18.000 Okay.

04:37:19.000 I honestly might need to...

04:37:22.000 We'll put up the lyrics.

04:37:25.000 Now I got it.

04:37:26.000 Jamie's got you.

04:37:28.000 Hold on.

04:37:30.000 Tune up.

04:37:30.000 We haven't played this.

04:37:32.000 We've played it like once.

04:37:33.000 Jamie's got you.

04:37:34.000 Don't worry.

04:37:39.000 Don't tell anybody I said that, even if this is on the internet.

04:37:42.000 Wait, what?

04:37:43.000 What?

04:37:44.000 Exactly.

04:37:45.000 Here it is.

04:37:46.000 Okay.

04:37:47.000 Ben, we got this.

04:37:49.000 We got this.

04:37:50.000 I got you.

04:37:50.000 I haven't drank in a month.

04:37:52.000 We're all fucked up. 0.98

04:37:53.000 But I'm having a great time. 1.00

04:37:59.000 Tone it. 0.84

04:38:03.000 How fun was this?

04:38:05.000 So much fun.

04:38:06.000 Oh my god.

04:38:07.000 Right?

04:38:08.000 Yeah.

04:38:09.000 I wish I was a 14 year old girl.

04:38:11.000 You are!

04:38:12.000 Oh my god.

04:38:14.000 So fun.

04:38:14.000 Yeah.

04:38:15.000 So fun.

04:38:17.000 Like the funnest.

04:38:19.000 The most fun.

04:38:21.000 Biggest fun.

04:38:22.000 I love you guys.

04:38:23.000 The fact that we can do this.

04:38:24.000 Oh my god, this is amazing. 0.99

04:38:26.000 Get together and get blasted. 0.98

04:38:30.000 It's the best. 0.99

04:38:31.000 Publicly!

04:38:33.000 Blasted! 0.97

04:38:33.000 Take that, public. 0.97

04:38:35.000 Take it!

04:38:36.000 I'm floating on the wind Until I find you You won't feel a change We'll just become the same thing And never spend a single day

04:39:07.000 apart Yes, I guess they have Oh, and yes, I've treated them the same as you All but quick I've let them dry And I licked the salty tea as they

04:39:37.000 cried And many went from many to afraid The angel of death, babe, the end is near Keep your hand on your chest,

04:39:59.000 don't let me whisper in your ear It's best to keep on walking, lock the door When I come knocking, mine's the voice you never wanna hear Maybe

04:41:00.000 you'll be shocked by this admittance Cause things are rarely ever what they see Oh,

04:41:18.000 I don't mean you harmed by my existence Just let your tired eyes slip into dreams Cause I'm the angel of death,

04:41:37.000 babe Keep your hand on your chest. 0.98

04:41:46.000 Don't let me whisper in your ear.

04:41:52.000 It's best to keep on walking.

04:41:56.000 Lock the door when I come knocking.

04:42:00.000 Mine's the voice you never wanna hear.

04:42:08.000 Yeah, mine's the voice you never wanna hear.

04:42:22.000 It brought us together.

04:42:25.000 Many.

04:42:26.000 A year ago.

04:42:29.000 Oh my god.

04:42:30.000 That was awesome.

04:42:32.000 I mean, we are in it, guys.

04:42:35.000 We are in the...

04:42:36.000 We finished the bottle of booze.

04:42:38.000 Do we really? 1.00

04:42:38.000 Holy shit. 1.00

04:42:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

04:42:41.000 We got real problems.

04:42:43.000 Respect.

04:42:45.000 We got mushrooms, allegedly.

04:42:48.000 Allegedly.

04:42:49.000 I was like, I didn't want to bring that up allegedly.

04:42:51.000 Move those cameras around.

04:42:54.000 Judiciously.

04:42:57.000 Wow.

04:42:57.000 And we're going to jail.

04:43:00.000 Fuck that! 1.00

04:43:01.000 You know what? 1.00

04:43:02.000 We need to fight for our rights.

04:43:06.000 We're going to be okay.

04:43:07.000 This is a safe space.

04:43:09.000 Dude, thank you so much.

04:43:10.000 Thank you so much.

04:43:11.000 This was the best time.

04:43:12.000 Thank you so much.

04:43:12.000 I can't tell you how lovely this has been.

04:43:15.000 It's been lovely for me too.

04:43:17.000 I love you guys.

04:43:19.000 You guys are awesome.

04:43:20.000 Mutual.

04:43:20.000 Ever since I met you, I knew.

04:43:23.000 I'm like, you guys are cool.

04:43:24.000 I'm really excited that you're friends with me and that you make this music that makes me feel like...

04:43:32.000 There's music that makes me realize that there's a purity in expression, you know?

04:43:40.000 Sometimes people put out stuff that you just listen to it and you go, oh yeah, that guy is telling the truth or she's speaking from the heart.

04:43:50.000 This is real.

04:43:52.000 And that's what you guys do.

04:43:54.000 So, from me to you.

04:43:55.000 Oh, right back at you.

04:43:57.000 King of Spotify!

04:43:59.000 Keep it coming!

04:44:00.000 Let's work out!

04:44:01.000 Young Jamie.

04:44:03.000 Jamie V. Jamie!

04:44:04.000 Jamie!

04:44:05.000 Jamie!

04:44:06.000 Jamie!

04:44:07.000 Jamie!

04:44:09.000 Honey, honey! 0.98

04:44:10.000 Back in action 2020!

04:44:13.000 The Yellowstone Volcano Tour!

04:44:17.000 I want one!

04:44:18.000 I want one!

04:44:20.000 Good night, everybody!

04:44:22.000 Keep it fresh!

04:44:23.000 Keep it in the basement! 0.99

04:44:25.000 Keep it away from drones! 0.99

04:44:27.000 Oh my god!

04:44:29.000 That was...

04:44:30.000 We did it!

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 05, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1486 - Honey Honey

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