The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1496 - Colion Noir

00:00:00.000 Boom, and we're live.

00:00:01.000 Hey, great to see you.

00:00:02.000 Thank you for being here.

00:00:02.000 Appreciate you, man.

00:00:03.000 I wore this just for you.

00:00:04.000 Hey, yeah, I like it.

00:00:05.000 I like it.

00:00:06.000 And thank you for the gift, too, man.

00:00:07.000 You're just pandering at this point, brother.

00:00:09.000 No.

00:00:09.000 Come on, man.

00:00:10.000 I do.

00:00:11.000 I wore this for you.

00:00:12.000 I had it.

00:00:13.000 I knew I had it.

00:00:14.000 I had to go find it.

00:00:15.000 My daughter's friend's ex-boyfriend worked for Glock.

00:00:19.000 Ah, okay.

00:00:20.000 Okay.

00:00:21.000 Yeah, no, I had to get your gift, man.

00:00:23.000 So it's my life pod.

00:00:25.000 It's like my portable safe.

00:00:26.000 Because you know out here in California, you have to, if you're going to travel with a firearm, it has to be in a locked case.

00:00:32.000 And so when I travel out here to California, I do bring a firearm with me.

00:00:35.000 I can't carry because my license isn't recognized out here.

00:00:39.000 But I can keep a gun in my hotel.

00:00:41.000 What do you have to do?

00:00:42.000 Ted Nugent can carry everywhere. 0.99

00:00:44.000 Because he's like a sheriff or some shit. 0.97

00:00:46.000 Yeah, there's always, you know, you have those little special licenses. 0.96

00:00:48.000 Yeah, you gotta...

00:00:50.000 Did you ever see the Steven Seagal show, the TV show, where he was a cop? 0.91

00:00:56.000 It's like Steven Seagal Lawman or some shit, but it's a real... 0.93

00:00:58.000 I think I was younger when it came out. 0.99

00:01:00.000 He was a real cop.

00:01:02.000 Like he was arresting people.

00:01:03.000 Like he was showing up in people's houses, you know, with a gun drawn. 1.00

00:01:08.000 They're like, are you fucking Steven Seagal? 0.99

00:01:09.000 Like, hey man, what's going on here? 1.00

00:01:11.000 Wait, hold on.

00:01:11.000 So it was like a reality show?

00:01:12.000 A reality show.

00:01:13.000 This is it right here.

00:01:14.000 Yeah.

00:01:16.000 And he would pull people, and because he was in New Orleans, he developed this...

00:01:20.000 Give me some volume on this.

00:01:22.000 You gotta hear his accent.

00:01:23.000 I don't know if I can.

00:01:24.000 Oh, we'll get kicked off of YouTube if we give you some volume.

00:01:27.000 But you gotta watch it on your own.

00:01:28.000 He developed this, like, C.S. Louisiana accent.

00:01:31.000 Oh, yes, he did.

00:01:32.000 Oh, yes, he did.

00:01:33.000 Oh, yes, he did.

00:01:34.000 It was me and my friend Tom Segura's favorite show.

00:01:37.000 We would talk to each other about it.

00:01:38.000 Great thing, because I grew up watching this dude, and so it's like, he's literally running around arresting people. 0.94

00:01:43.000 Yeah, ridiculous. 0.99

00:01:43.000 Ridiculous. 0.99

00:01:45.000 I make fun of that dude all the time, and he deserves it, but he was a legit Aikido master. 0.91

00:01:50.000 The suspect that we're looking for is sitting on the ground right there.

00:01:53.000 See, now that's a normal accent.

00:01:55.000 It varies.

00:01:56.000 It varies widely and wildly depending upon who he's actually talking to.

00:02:00.000 This is so real.

00:02:01.000 Sometimes he's talking to certain folks, he'll put on like a deep Louisiana accent.

00:02:05.000 So how do I open this, bad boy?

00:02:07.000 Right now.

00:02:08.000 Is this your brand?

00:02:10.000 Yes.

00:02:11.000 So, basically, I teamed up with this company called Vault-Tec.

00:02:13.000 That's when you know you're a real gun nut when you got your own gun safe.

00:02:17.000 I think it only made sense.

00:02:18.000 So, how do I open this thing?

00:02:19.000 Alright, so basically, there isn't a battery in it yet, but what you would do is, you see those clamps on the side?

00:02:24.000 Yeah, so you put the clamps on, that makes it watertight.

00:02:27.000 Okay.

00:02:28.000 And so it's a lifestyle case also.

00:02:30.000 Lifestyle case?

00:02:31.000 Yeah.

00:02:31.000 So there are people, I just did a post where somebody was on a jet ski and he had all his valuables and contents in there because it floats.

00:02:37.000 Oh, okay.

00:02:38.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:02:39.000 So he dropped in the water or anything like that.

00:02:41.000 Oh, it says here the pew pew pew life.

00:02:43.000 Pew pew!

00:02:44.000 Get it? 0.99

00:02:45.000 Gun people don't know what the fuck that means. 0.99

00:02:47.000 If you say the pew-pew life. 0.99

00:02:49.000 Yeah, gun people or non-gun people?

00:02:50.000 Excuse me, non-gun people.

00:02:51.000 Yeah, no, they don't.

00:02:52.000 They're kind of like, what, church?

00:02:54.000 You mean like pews in a church?

00:02:55.000 What does that mean? 0.96

00:02:57.000 Pew-pew, like stinky? 1.00

00:02:58.000 I wore a shirt one time, and a lady was like, what does pew-pew? 0.98

00:03:01.000 And she was like, what does that mean?

00:03:02.000 I was like, guns.

00:03:03.000 She was like, oh.

00:03:03.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:03:05.000 People, this is one of the reasons why I contacted you.

00:03:07.000 I contacted you right when the looting hit.

00:03:09.000 Uh-huh.

00:03:11.000 That's racist. 0.98

00:03:12.000 No, because there were a lot of white people looting.

00:03:15.000 It was a thing where I recognized that there was a giant shift in people's perception of the Second Amendment.

00:03:22.000 And I said, this is a good time for you again.

00:03:24.000 Appreciate it, brother.

00:03:25.000 Yeah, because you're out there beating the drums and sounding the alarms. 0.99

00:03:29.000 And all these people that are anti-Second Amendment people were a lot of these motherfuckers that were lined up in California trying to buy a gun last minute. 0.95

00:03:35.000 Because as soon as the lockdown hit, people started getting really nervous. 0.99

00:03:50.000 Gotcha.

00:03:51.000 Gotcha.

00:04:02.000 I think it's a really important conversation.

00:04:05.000 I think you're the best at explaining it from a very rational perspective that people during the times before COVID, they didn't think that this was important. 0.97

00:04:18.000 But you were always one of those guys where it was like, hey, what if shit goes down? 0.98

00:04:22.000 Well, guess what? 1.00

00:04:23.000 Shit went down. 1.00

00:04:24.000 It did. 1.00

00:04:25.000 It's kind of like me carrying a firearm.

00:04:26.000 You know, a lot of people ask me, they're like, when I started carrying a gun, I'm like, why?

00:04:29.000 Why do you need to carry a gun?

00:04:30.000 Like, what do you think?

00:04:31.000 You're a drug dealer or something?

00:04:32.000 I'm like, look, it's nothing for me to take my phones, my wallet, my keys, and then put my gun on and go about my life.

00:04:41.000 It's nothing for me to do that.

00:04:42.000 It's normal.

00:04:42.000 Yeah.

00:04:43.000 And it's not much of an encumbrance on my life where it's like, okay, it's not worth the day-to-day of me carrying a firearm, but if I ever needed it, That's going to be the most important thing I have on me to protect that life.

00:04:56.000 So it's a small price to pay for something that has such a huge upside if it ever happens.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, you're a best case scenario, though.

00:05:05.000 You're a lawyer.

00:05:06.000 You're super intelligent.

00:05:08.000 You're a really nice guy.

00:05:09.000 But you also love guns.

00:05:10.000 Yes.

00:05:11.000 What people are worried about is worst case scenario.

00:05:14.000 They're worried about someone who's a criminal, who just wants to rob people, who has this ultimate power over folks.

00:05:20.000 And that's what everybody's worried about when it comes to guns.

00:05:23.000 They're worried about a school shooter.

00:05:24.000 They're worried about a mass murderer.

00:05:26.000 They're worried about a guy who breaks into a mosque and starts gunning people down.

00:05:28.000 That's what they're worried about.

00:05:30.000 I totally get it.

00:05:32.000 Like, I really, truly, honestly get it.

00:05:34.000 I can empathize and sympathize with that.

00:05:35.000 But my whole thing is this.

00:05:37.000 Once we move past that understanding of, so, you know, you have the best case scenario, which you pointed out was theoretically me, so to speak, and then you have the worst case scenario where you have, you know, criminals, you have crazy people, mass shooters, things of that nature.

00:05:49.000 Once we get out of that realm, so let's talk about the reality because, you know, there's overlaps, right?

00:05:54.000 So I usually ask people, well, what law are you going to come up with that's going to completely stop that?

00:06:01.000 No one knows.

00:06:02.000 Now, I'm not saying that because I have the absolute answer, but what I can tell you is this.

00:06:07.000 We don't know what law we can come up with that's going to completely stop that.

00:06:10.000 Because you can ban all the guns tomorrow.

00:06:13.000 You're still going to have crime.

00:06:14.000 You're still going to have those crazy people doing those same things.

00:06:17.000 We have over 300 million guns in this country.

00:06:19.000 Not going anywhere.

00:06:20.000 You can ban them from law-abiding citizens, and we'd have to deal with that as it comes.

00:06:24.000 But at the end of the day, criminals are still going to get their hands on guns.

00:06:27.000 And so what you have to understand and accept is, from a reality standpoint, if you know that, When all the barriers that are placed to prevent these things don't work, the only person that's going to be able to do anything about it is you.

00:06:42.000 And you want the best thing possible at your disposal to contend against that.

00:06:47.000 And that's what the firearm does.

00:06:50.000 Do I glorify firearms?

00:06:52.000 To a degree, yes, but that's because I'm a firearm enthusiast.

00:06:55.000 I love them from a very practical, scientific...

00:07:00.000 Engineering.

00:07:00.000 Exactly.

00:07:01.000 And even from a sports, entertainment, all of those things, right?

00:07:05.000 It's very holistic in that regard.

00:07:07.000 But for people who are just understanding it from a practical perspective, like, okay, from self-defense, if that's the only box you want to live in, that's perfectly fine with me.

00:07:18.000 I just have a problem where people say things like, well, no one needs to have a firearm.

00:07:23.000 But then you're perfectly aware of all the violence and everything else that goes on in this country.

00:07:28.000 And you understand the limitations of the first responders that we have in place to be able to prevent it.

00:07:34.000 And if you understand that, theoretically speaking, you're on your own.

00:07:42.000 Yeah.

00:07:44.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:58.000 And there's a lot of crazy shit going on. 0.99

00:08:00.000 He sent me a text message. 1.00

00:08:02.000 He has a buddy that works in Harlem as a cop, and he said there was 28 shootings in one night, which is just fucking bonkers. 0.98

00:08:12.000 And this guy is... 0.96

00:08:14.000 And this is New York?

00:08:15.000 Yeah, this is in Harlem.

00:08:17.000 So he sent me...

00:08:17.000 This is the list of all the shootings.

00:08:20.000 That he sent me.

00:08:21.000 His buddy's 21 years old and he's working in Harlem.

00:08:28.000 Keep in mind, New York has by far some of the strictest gun.

00:08:31.000 It's literally one of the only places that when I travel to, I will not bring a gun.

00:08:35.000 Yeah, I was going to bring that up.

00:08:37.000 And then the other one I was going to bring up is Chicago, which is very similar in that regard.

00:08:42.000 And there's a running total online.

00:08:45.000 There's a website that shows all the shootings in Chicago. 0.98

00:08:48.000 And it's Fucking bonkers like I mean just look look at what just happened Father's Day. 0.98

00:08:53.000 I think it was like a hundred and two people shot. 0.99

00:08:55.000 Yeah Fucking ridiculous fucking crazy and but here's his thing about that, too There's there's a consistency in a pattern behind these types of shootings It's not even like so usually when you deal with a problem The first thing you do is you try to look for a pattern to see if you can figure it figure out a pattern So you can try to solve it. 0.98

00:09:11.000 Yeah, and you see okay What's the common denominator of all these things and then wise and you can figure out start to figure out why it happens, but Right. 0.99

00:09:27.000 Right.

00:09:30.000 Right.

00:09:37.000 On the contrary, violent crime is actually going down, if you look at it from a statistical standard.

00:09:43.000 However, there are pockets within our country that have this violence, and there's consistencies within that pocket.

00:09:50.000 One of the big ones being...

00:09:52.000 Gun laws.

00:09:53.000 Not gun laws, extreme poverty.

00:09:56.000 Oh, okay.

00:09:57.000 You get what I'm saying?

00:09:57.000 Because a lot of it is our inner cities.

00:10:00.000 Because if you think about it, some people like to even place it, base it upon race, right?

00:10:06.000 And then say, okay, well, this is a black on black violence issue. 0.61

00:10:10.000 Yeah, I can understand that.

00:10:12.000 But however, if you really think about it, think about some of the most affluent black neighborhoods in the country.

00:10:17.000 We don't have those problems.

00:10:18.000 Right.

00:10:19.000 Right.

00:10:19.000 It's a poverty issue.

00:10:35.000 And they created a power vacuum.

00:10:37.000 And then it started this crazy war.

00:10:39.000 And then this war is just...

00:10:40.000 And he's like, no one knows how to get out of it.

00:10:43.000 No one knows what to do about it.

00:10:44.000 This is why Southside Chicago to this day is one of the scariest spots in this entire country.

00:10:49.000 I've done two...

00:10:50.000 When I was with the NRA, I did two episodes in Southside Chicago.

00:10:53.000 Are you not with the NRA anymore?

00:10:55.000 No, no, I'm not.

00:10:55.000 How come?

00:10:57.000 The NRA and their agency of record had a falling out.

00:11:01.000 Massive falling out.

00:11:02.000 I was basically collateral damage within that.

00:11:05.000 So for whatever reason, after the falling out, I haven't had contact with the NRA for almost a year.

00:11:11.000 So were you working for them?

00:11:15.000 Pretty much.

00:11:16.000 In terms of, as much as, say, Don Lemon works for CNN. Okay.

00:11:20.000 Well, he really works for CNN. They give him a fat check.

00:11:23.000 Well, that's what I mean.

00:11:24.000 Well, I don't get Don Lemon.

00:11:25.000 I wasn't getting Don Lemon money, but essentially what I was doing was I was a commentator and I was a host of two shows on their platform.

00:11:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:11:32.000 That's the extent.

00:11:33.000 A lot of people thought I was an actual spokesperson.

00:11:35.000 Are you still a member of the NRA? Yeah, I'm still a member of the NRA. Okay.

00:11:38.000 I thought maybe you had a falling out with the way the organization was running.

00:11:42.000 No, no.

00:11:42.000 It's just radio silence on their end.

00:11:45.000 That's kind of weird.

00:11:47.000 The way I function, I just keep moving.

00:11:50.000 That's what I do.

00:11:51.000 Smart.

00:11:52.000 Yeah.

00:11:52.000 So, from that perspective.

00:11:54.000 So, there's no, on my part, there's no bad blood.

00:11:57.000 I may have some critiques about certain things, but other than that, there's no bad blood.

00:12:02.000 Have you noticed a big uptick in people interested in your message?

00:12:06.000 Yes.

00:12:08.000 Especially a lot of people who are buying guns for the first time.

00:12:10.000 I'm pretty sure you're getting to.

00:12:12.000 A lot of people asking if they can borrow a gun.

00:12:17.000 And then they get a first course lesson about how the laws work.

00:12:20.000 Also, people in California that wanted to go buy a gun, they realized it takes a long time.

00:12:24.000 It gives you a background check.

00:12:26.000 There's a wait period.

00:12:28.000 I used to get the biggest pushback from my Defense of not having a waiting period for firearms.

00:12:34.000 I used to get a lot of pushback from that because people were like, well, at least you don't give people time to calm down and cool off.

00:12:41.000 I mean, that's cartoon land thinking.

00:12:44.000 Somebody who's made a decision to kill somebody, they're going to kill them or at least going to make an attempt to do so.

00:12:49.000 Maybe.

00:12:50.000 The idea that somehow not being able to buy a gun immediately to commit that crime, I personally don't think it does anything.

00:12:59.000 I don't.

00:12:59.000 I think if I've set out to commit some crime against someone and I go try to get a gun and I can't get a gun, I'm going to try to find another avenue by which to get that tool that I need to commit that crime.

00:13:09.000 And so, however, in the alternative, I can tell you actual stories about people trying to get firearms who needed them immediately but couldn't get them and thus probably died as a result of it.

00:13:25.000 And so, and I know other people, people, like, I've had, hell, I've had girlfriends in the past who have dealt with situations with stalkers who were like, okay, I need a gun for tonight because this person showed up at my house.

00:13:35.000 Right.

00:13:36.000 You know, things like that.

00:13:37.000 But don't you think that in order to safely, you want to make sure that someone is not a dangerous, violent felon before you sell them a gun?

00:13:47.000 Absolutely.

00:13:48.000 So there's got to be some kind of background check.

00:13:50.000 And we have them.

00:13:51.000 Right.

00:13:52.000 Yeah.

00:13:52.000 But how long do you think, you don't want to wait, period.

00:13:54.000 Right.

00:13:55.000 No, I'm against the wait period.

00:13:56.000 So the logic is, say if a woman knows that a guy is stalking her and might show up at her house tonight, she wants to be able to have a gun.

00:14:05.000 Absolutely.

00:14:06.000 That makes sense to me.

00:14:08.000 But there's still going to be a background check on that girl. 1.00

00:14:10.000 Yes.

00:14:11.000 So let's kind of flesh that out.

00:14:14.000 So right now, if you go and buy a gun from a dealer, someone who has a license to sell firearms as a business, you have to have a background check.

00:14:23.000 And the background check's instant.

00:14:24.000 But I think a lot of people misconstrue the fact that the background check is instant as being insufficient.

00:14:30.000 And that's not the case.

00:14:31.000 It's just that we live in a technical, you know, we have technology now, so it allows us to conduct a background check a lot quicker than we probably would 30, 40 years.

00:14:39.000 Yeah, I bought my first gun in 94, and the background check is like, by pony.

00:14:46.000 I don't know how they did it back then, but it took a while.

00:14:50.000 It's just paperwork.

00:14:51.000 Make sure you're not a criminal.

00:14:52.000 But there was no internet.

00:14:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:54.000 And so now with the internet, it's pretty quick.

00:14:59.000 I think what people are having a problem with is the private transactions.

00:15:04.000 Right.

00:15:04.000 And so, generally speaking, in most states, you're not required to force someone to get a background check if you were going to sell them a gun.

00:15:11.000 Like, if you're in the business of selling guns, then that's one thing.

00:15:14.000 But if you're like, hey, Joe, you want a gun?

00:15:17.000 Say you saw one of my guns, and you're like, hey, I want to buy that gun.

00:15:20.000 In Texas, I can meet with you.

00:15:23.000 As long as I know you're not a felon or have a reason to know that you're a felon or a prohibited person of some sort, I can sell you the gun.

00:15:29.000 So you don't have to do any kind of check?

00:15:32.000 No.

00:15:32.000 That's interesting.

00:15:33.000 Now, I'm at liberty to say, hey, Joe, how about you meet me at this gun store and pay for a background check on top of the price of the gun and then conduct a background check, which a lot of people do.

00:15:46.000 That's wise.

00:15:48.000 But I don't like the idea of mandating private background checks.

00:15:53.000 Right.

00:15:53.000 So like if you had a friend and she had a stalker and the stalker was going to break into her house, you could legally sell her a gun to Texas right there and then.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, I can just give her a gun. 0.99

00:16:03.000 As long as I don't know or have reason to know that she's a prohibitive Prohibitive person.

00:16:09.000 Other than that, yeah, I can do that.

00:16:11.000 And again, I bring this back to you are best case scenario.

00:16:15.000 For a guy like you to have a gun, I don't worry about you having a gun at all. 0.84

00:16:19.000 I think what I'm worried about is, again, people that are psychotic, people that are on medication, people that are dangerous, people that are criminals, people that are thugs.

00:16:28.000 That's what everybody's worried about.

00:16:30.000 As am I. Yeah, as are you.

00:16:32.000 And when you're talking about giving your friend a gun, again, that seems completely reasonable.

00:16:38.000 You're a reasonable person.

00:16:39.000 I know that if you're going to give a gun to a person and you think they need it, this is going to be a well thought out decision. 0.62

00:16:45.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:16:48.000 So the alternative, the contrary to that is what?

00:16:50.000 The idea that somebody who's not like that will just be giving guns away to people.

00:16:55.000 Right.

00:16:55.000 Exactly.

00:16:56.000 Someone who's unscrupulous.

00:16:58.000 That's the worry, right?

00:16:59.000 The worry is someone who, you know, wants to make a buck and they'll sell guns to felons.

00:17:04.000 Yeah.

00:17:04.000 And that's already illegal.

00:17:06.000 Yeah.

00:17:07.000 Yeah.

00:17:07.000 It's illegal.

00:17:08.000 Right.

00:17:08.000 It doesn't matter if you make a look.

00:17:10.000 Yo, what happened?

00:17:11.000 The government. 0.99

00:17:12.000 They don't want us fucking around anymore, dude. 1.00

00:17:14.000 We're talking too much shit. 1.00

00:17:15.000 That's the anti-gun lobby. 1.00

00:17:17.000 Man, I'm telling you.

00:17:17.000 They blew a fuse.

00:17:22.000 Oh, so the video shut off?

00:17:25.000 Should we pause for a second here?

00:17:31.000 It's the Russians. 0.99

00:17:33.000 Or the Chinese. 0.98

00:17:34.000 Who do you think is attacking us?

00:17:36.000 That one's going?

00:17:37.000 The video's going?

00:17:39.000 We're gonna hold folks.

00:17:41.000 Hopefully nothing will happen here.

00:17:43.000 And they won't think that...

00:17:45.000 Everything else shut off though.

00:17:46.000 Everything else, like what?

00:17:50.000 Okay, well, let's turn everything back on just in case.

00:17:52.000 We'll just pause.

00:17:54.000 Ladies and gentlemen, something happened.

00:17:56.000 There was some sort of a power surge, so we'll just pause here for a second.

00:17:59.000 It's a conspiracy.

00:17:59.000 We'll come back.

00:18:00.000 Alright, we're back.

00:18:01.000 So something happened, folks.

00:18:02.000 Sorry.

00:18:02.000 We had some sort of a power surge.

00:18:05.000 All the lights went out for a second and popped back on.

00:18:07.000 It was like a pop.

00:18:08.000 I don't know.

00:18:09.000 We don't know what...

00:18:10.000 Never had that happen before. 1.00

00:18:12.000 It's the fucking Russians or the Chinese or the aliens. 1.00

00:18:15.000 I don't know, man. 1.00

00:18:16.000 I've been having some weird things happen on my end, so I wouldn't be surprised.

00:18:18.000 Yeah, I was going to ask you that. 0.98

00:18:20.000 Do you feel like, because you have this pro-Second Amendment message, do you think people fuck with you? 0.99

00:18:25.000 Because, like... 1.00

00:18:29.000 If I was someone who had an anti-Second Amendment message, you're the biggest nightmare.

00:18:35.000 A lawyer who's a friendly guy, good-looking, articulate, really good at media, you're always doing things, and you have a passion for these guns, and you talk about them.

00:18:45.000 You did this thing where you're walking around, there's a bunch of tires around, and you're smiling.

00:18:49.000 God, I love this gun! 1.00

00:18:50.000 And you're shooting it, and you're talking, and that motherfucker loves guns. 1.00

00:18:54.000 This isn't a joke. 1.00

00:18:55.000 But you love guns the way I love muscle cars or bows.

00:18:59.000 I mean, I love guns too.

00:19:01.000 You know what the funny thing is, you know what I love slightly more than guns?

00:19:03.000 What?

00:19:03.000 Cars.

00:19:04.000 Do you?

00:19:04.000 Yeah.

00:19:05.000 What kind of cars?

00:19:06.000 I'm more into the vanity, superficial level of cars, like Astons, Ferraris, Porsches, and things of that nature.

00:19:14.000 That's where my heart really thumps.

00:19:18.000 I'm into cars that make me feel like I feel.

00:19:24.000 Manual and transmissions.

00:19:26.000 My favorite brand is Aston Martin.

00:19:29.000 It's a great car.

00:19:29.000 And so I consider that the English muscle car.

00:19:32.000 Because largely they are...

00:19:34.000 All the sensorial effects that you get from an American muscle car, generally speaking, with a little bit more refinement, you get from Aston Martins.

00:19:41.000 But then they also go wrong and they also lose value incredibly.

00:19:45.000 Yeah.

00:19:46.000 The go wrong part.

00:19:47.000 Dane Cook was telling me about that.

00:19:49.000 He said he had an Aston Martin that fell apart.

00:19:51.000 But my friend Brendan Schaub has one right now and he loves it.

00:19:53.000 Which one do you know?

00:19:54.000 What is that?

00:19:56.000 It's dope. 0.55

00:19:57.000 Whatever.

00:19:57.000 It looks like a spaceship.

00:19:58.000 It's pretty slick.

00:19:59.000 I love them, man.

00:20:00.000 They evoke an emotional response out of me more than any other, generally speaking, any other car.

00:20:04.000 It's British.

00:20:05.000 Yeah.

00:20:05.000 I don't trust British.

00:20:06.000 I don't trust my people. 1.00

00:20:08.000 Italians can fuck off. 1.00

00:20:09.000 I'm never buying one of your cars, you fucking animals. 1.00

00:20:12.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:20:14.000 My people are supposed to make pizza and paintings. 1.00

00:20:16.000 They're not supposed to be making cars.

00:20:18.000 Well, man, they have a lot of character, brother.

00:20:20.000 Oh, yeah, they do.

00:20:20.000 Yeah, no, I love Ferraris.

00:20:22.000 They are gorgeous. 1.00

00:20:23.000 I mean, I'm so stupid. 0.99

00:20:24.000 I might buy one one day. 1.00

00:20:25.000 I think you should be that stupid. 1.00

00:20:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:28.000 They sound good.

00:20:29.000 They do, man.

00:20:30.000 The funny thing is I'm not even like a...

00:20:32.000 I mean, like I remember, I went to Exotic Racing in Vegas.

00:20:36.000 Oh, that's a great place.

00:20:37.000 Yeah, it's like my first time ever driving a car around a track like that.

00:20:41.000 And I got to drive pretty much anything I wanted.

00:20:44.000 And the car I walked away from that was like, I mean, anywhere from like a Ferrari Pista to a 911 GT3. And the car that I walked away from, like, yeah, it was actually the Porsche 911 GT3. Yeah.

00:20:57.000 And we're talking about a $300,000 to $400,000 car.

00:21:00.000 Versus a $130,000, $150,000 car.

00:21:03.000 Yeah, the GT3 evokes an emotional response because of the interaction that you have with the vehicle.

00:21:09.000 Was it a manual?

00:21:10.000 It wasn't a manual.

00:21:11.000 It was a PDK. Well, if you want to drive fast, the PDK is the way to go.

00:21:15.000 The manual is really better for a street car.

00:21:18.000 Yes.

00:21:18.000 When you're on a track, you want to keep your hands on the wheel and just bam, bam, bam.

00:21:22.000 So you don't miss shifts and things of that nature.

00:21:24.000 But yeah, when you are on the street, that level of engagement between shifting gears in a car, There's nothing that can...

00:21:32.000 The only thing I think that may be able to replicate that to a degree is working a bolt action on a rifle.

00:21:37.000 I see what you're saying.

00:21:38.000 Yeah, I see what you're saying.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, there's a...

00:21:40.000 Or even like a lever action.

00:21:43.000 Like that same thing.

00:21:45.000 It's like a combination of the mechanical and organic that just kind of comes together, and it's just beautiful.

00:21:51.000 Do you know that in the hunting world, there's a dispute between the hunting world and the tactical world and the gun enthusiast world?

00:21:59.000 And they call the hunting world FUDs.

00:22:01.000 Yes, you do know!

00:22:02.000 They FUDs, meaning Elmer Fudd.

00:22:05.000 And what's ironic...

00:22:06.000 Is the new Warner Brothers.

00:22:08.000 They cut out the gun.

00:22:10.000 There's a new remake of Elmer Fudd.

00:22:13.000 Now, this is where it gets crazy, folks.

00:22:15.000 Elmer Fudd, who's always been hunting Bugs Bunny, now he's hunting Bugs Bunny with a scythe, which is so evil. 0.99

00:22:22.000 It's disturbing as shit. 1.00

00:22:23.000 It's the evilest shit ever. 1.00

00:22:24.000 You look at it and you're like, it literally made me go, oh, shit. 1.00

00:22:27.000 If Elmer shoots Bugs Bunny with a shotgun, at least he dies quick. 1.00

00:22:33.000 Scythe, you're hacking away, man. 0.93

00:22:34.000 You're just...

00:22:35.000 And he's still allowed to use dynamite.

00:22:37.000 They're still using dynamite.

00:22:39.000 So they're using explosives, but they can't use a firearm anymore.

00:22:42.000 I actually did a video on it.

00:22:43.000 Did you?

00:22:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:44.000 And one of the writers basically said his justification for it was, you know, during the time when they were working on the actual cartoon, it happened really close to the Vegas shooting.

00:22:53.000 And so they were like, everyone in the media wanted to stay away from guns.

00:22:56.000 So I'm like, but the scythe and explosions are okay?

00:22:58.000 Look at this.

00:22:59.000 Let me play some of this, just so I can look at it.

00:23:02.000 Can you?

00:23:03.000 We can.

00:23:03.000 But just have it in the background.

00:23:05.000 I just want to see what this looks like when he's running around with a scythe.

00:23:09.000 Oh, there's something weird, man, about redoing the past.

00:23:13.000 You know?

00:23:14.000 Looney Tunes.

00:23:15.000 So this is a new version, right?

00:23:18.000 This is completely new.

00:23:19.000 It's not like they took the gun out.

00:23:22.000 Oh my god, this is so sick.

00:23:23.000 Jesus, that's so weird.

00:23:25.000 It's so sick. 0.99

00:23:27.000 And he sticks a dynamite in his mouth. 1.00

00:23:31.000 And he blows his fucking face off. 1.00

00:23:33.000 That's okay. 1.00

00:23:35.000 I mean, what is... 1.00

00:23:36.000 First of all, what kind of fucking shitty dynamite... 0.99

00:23:39.000 I know, right? 1.00

00:23:40.000 That's the worst lesson.

00:23:41.000 You're teaching kids no dynamite safety.

00:23:44.000 Because dynamite just makes your face dirty for a second.

00:23:47.000 And then it comes back to normal.

00:23:48.000 Look, even his hat regenerates. 0.99

00:23:50.000 Like, what the fuck are we teaching kids? 0.97

00:23:53.000 There's no consequences to dynamite? 0.99

00:23:55.000 There is a gratuitous use of dynamite in this one.

00:23:57.000 Look at this.

00:23:57.000 Look at how crazy it is that Dynamite blows his hat apart, but then it fixes itself.

00:24:03.000 Look at this.

00:24:04.000 Boom and again.

00:24:05.000 Boom and again.

00:24:06.000 Boom.

00:24:06.000 This is a bit excessive, dude.

00:24:08.000 But look, he lands. 0.99

00:24:09.000 Oh, finally his hat's fucked up. 1.00

00:24:10.000 Will it stay fucked up? 1.00

00:24:11.000 Let's see. 1.00

00:24:13.000 It's fucked up. 0.99

00:24:14.000 He's dancing. 1.00

00:24:15.000 And it looks like his hat's normal.

00:24:17.000 It's going to be back.

00:24:18.000 Oh, he's got no hat.

00:24:20.000 Boom.

00:24:20.000 Then he gives him a cake with dynamite and it says, coming soon.

00:24:24.000 That is the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

00:24:27.000 God, that's so weird. 1.00

00:24:29.000 I think it would have been ten times better with a gun.

00:24:31.000 But it doesn't make any sense.

00:24:33.000 It's so weird.

00:24:35.000 I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist.

00:24:37.000 I'm not.

00:24:38.000 Sometimes I look at stuff like that and I look at the decision behind why they removed the firearm.

00:24:42.000 And I hear you, the whole Vegas thing and just the sensitivity to it.

00:24:46.000 But I'm like, but your alternative was just as, or if not more, violent.

00:24:52.000 Then the gun.

00:24:53.000 So my mind goes, okay, this is more of a cultural thing, right?

00:24:57.000 I think there's an attempt to be made to erase the idea of firearm ownership in this country.

00:25:02.000 Because I think there are a lot of people like me, like we grew up, even though I didn't grow up with firearms, I still grew up with an understanding of the Second Amendment.

00:25:09.000 I was taught about the Second Amendment to a certain degree in school.

00:25:12.000 I guarantee you they're not teaching about the Second Amendment in schools now.

00:25:14.000 No.

00:25:15.000 That I can assure you.

00:25:16.000 Yeah.

00:25:17.000 If anything, I mean, there's definitely no positive message.

00:25:21.000 No.

00:25:22.000 So, what it tells me is...

00:25:26.000 I'm assuming the demographic of people that are going to be watching that would be largely you and I who kind of grew up with it in the past for the nostalgia effect.

00:25:34.000 But then also a new generation of kids are going to be watching that as well.

00:25:37.000 And we all grew up with Elmo Fred having the shotgun.

00:25:40.000 Yeah.

00:25:41.000 He's the hunter with the shotgun.

00:25:43.000 Be very quiet.

00:25:44.000 I'm hunting rabbits.

00:25:46.000 But see, here's the funny thing about that.

00:25:48.000 You know, when it comes to the issue of firearms and the gun debate in this country, you get people like Joe Biden talking about, you know, all you need is a shotgun.

00:25:57.000 You don't need an AR-15 shotgun.

00:25:59.000 Who needs an AR-15 for hunting?

00:26:01.000 Yeah, you castorize Elmer Fudd and you take away his shotgun.

00:26:08.000 What is that saying?

00:26:10.000 Well, it doesn't make any sense.

00:26:11.000 It doesn't?

00:26:12.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:26:12.000 Joe Biden's message doesn't make any sense either because shotguns have a very limited range.

00:26:17.000 You know, it's also, you know, if someone's like on your property breaking in and shooting at you from a distance or something.

00:26:24.000 Shotguns, it's not going to do much of anything, but I think that's the point.

00:26:26.000 Well, it's not true that people don't hunt with them. 0.97

00:26:29.000 People hunt with ARs all the time, particularly pigs.

00:26:33.000 That's another debate in the hunting world about bolt action versus semi-automatic, especially when people hunt pigs.

00:26:41.000 Like in Texas, you're dealing with massive pig infestation, and when they hunt these wild pigs, they like to use guns.

00:26:49.000 They can fire more than one round.

00:26:51.000 There's a video of me right now on YouTube where I was hunting hogs at night with an AR. And the funny thing is, a lot of it too, for me, I mean, we have cougars in Texas.

00:27:05.000 So people don't think about that component.

00:27:06.000 So I may be hunting one animal, but there may be another animal hunting me.

00:27:10.000 Hunting you.

00:27:10.000 Exactly.

00:27:10.000 And I don't want to have to deal with the bolt-action rifle to possibly deal with that threat.

00:27:14.000 Fuck that. 0.99

00:27:15.000 I was in New Mexico not too long ago, and one of my friends has a huge property out there called the Q Ranch. 1.00

00:27:22.000 And I was driving around this property and just kind of exploring a little bit.

00:27:27.000 And I took an AR with me because he does have bears and things like that on his property.

00:27:31.000 I don't want to run into something that could kill me with a bolt-action shotgun.

00:27:36.000 I want an AR because it's effective at allowing me to defend myself more effectively.

00:27:40.000 And I think that's where a lot of people don't realize that.

00:27:43.000 They just see the AR and they say, oh my god, it looks scary, it looks dangerous.

00:27:47.000 And they assume what a bad guy can do with an AR towards you.

00:27:50.000 We're good to go.

00:28:09.000 The only difference is one of the conclusive aspects of what I'm saying is empowering.

00:28:14.000 The other is depend on me and put all of your safety in my hands, i.e.

00:28:20.000 via the government.

00:28:21.000 And I'm just not with that.

00:28:23.000 Well, and also we're realizing that the people that you put your hands into, they're humans and they're severely flawed.

00:28:29.000 I mean, that's what we're realizing.

00:28:33.000 Across the entire country right now.

00:28:35.000 And that's what people forget.

00:28:36.000 I think people tend to add this kind of autonomous, godlike aspect to the government.

00:28:42.000 Well, we'd like that to be the case.

00:28:44.000 We'd like the government to be the big daddy that's going to...

00:28:46.000 If we dial 911, they're going to take care of everything.

00:28:49.000 Yeah.

00:28:49.000 But honestly, that's probably not the case.

00:28:52.000 Well, it's not the case right now in Atlanta.

00:28:54.000 No.

00:28:54.000 You hear what's going on in Atlanta?

00:28:55.000 Cops are just not responding.

00:28:57.000 Yeah.

00:28:57.000 And that's a huge, huge reality dose.

00:29:00.000 Yeah, we got a lot of messages from people.

00:29:01.000 I got a lot of messages from cops that think that I had a bad take on the Atlanta case because the guy stole a taser and then they shot him.

00:29:12.000 And they, you know, what they were saying to me is essentially that this guy had a criminal history and that just because someone is being compliant doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have an evil intentions.

00:29:24.000 They're just waiting to do something.

00:29:26.000 And then this guy got in a tussle with the cop.

00:29:29.000 I understand what they're saying.

00:29:31.000 But given the current climate, shooting a guy with a taser that doesn't work, you know, because that's, Jamie, that's the case, right?

00:29:38.000 The taser didn't work?

00:29:39.000 That's what I had read, yes.

00:29:41.000 They said it had already been fired twice.

00:29:43.000 So that means it's done.

00:29:45.000 Do we know that for a fact?

00:29:46.000 That's what I read.

00:29:46.000 Can we pull that up just in case?

00:29:48.000 Because we are talking on a podcast that millions of people are going to hear.

00:29:52.000 I don't want anybody to misunderstand me.

00:29:54.000 I have two positions.

00:29:57.000 One, I think...

00:30:00.000 It's really hard to be a cop. 0.97

00:30:02.000 Really, really, really fucking hard to be a cop.

00:30:05.000 And I think the defunding of the cops is a terrible idea. 0.63

00:30:09.000 I think they need way more money.

00:30:10.000 And I think they need training.

00:30:12.000 And I had Jocko Willink on, who's a former Navy SEAL. He was a commander.

00:30:16.000 And he would set up testing.

00:30:18.000 And he would set up training, rather.

00:30:20.000 And that's what they need.

00:30:22.000 They need constant training.

00:30:23.000 Jocko was saying he thinks they should be training 20% of the time.

00:30:26.000 I mean, I honestly probably train a lot more than a lot of cops.

00:30:29.000 I bet you train way more than most cops.

00:30:32.000 And then I would always be really shocked in jujitsu class when cops would come in, where they had nothing.

00:30:40.000 They had nothing.

00:30:41.000 They literally didn't know what to do in a hand-to-hand fight.

00:30:43.000 I'm like, man, this is crazy.

00:30:45.000 Here it goes.

00:30:46.000 We have concluded that Rolf was aware that the taser in Brooks' possession, it was fired twice.

00:30:50.000 Once it's fired twice, it presented no danger to him or to other persons.

00:30:55.000 Okay, one thing you could say is that maybe he forgot.

00:30:59.000 It is possible that he forgot.

00:31:00.000 He saw the taser being pointed at him.

00:31:02.000 But it also says he shot him in the back two times.

00:31:06.000 He was running away from him.

00:31:08.000 So I think the shooting in the back is not as relevant as people make it.

00:31:14.000 He says, Howard said the office concluded the time of Brooks' death.

00:31:16.000 He did not pose a threat to the officers.

00:31:19.000 He said Brooks was running away from the officers when Rolf shot him in the back two times.

00:31:24.000 That I agree with.

00:31:26.000 The shooting in the back, I don't think is as important.

00:31:29.000 Because people move while they're in the back.

00:31:30.000 Well, also, in the video from what I saw.

00:31:32.000 Now, I could be wrong.

00:31:33.000 Anybody can correct me if they see this.

00:31:35.000 When I saw him in the video...

00:31:36.000 He was turning back and shooting like this.

00:31:38.000 Oh. 0.54

00:31:38.000 So it stands to reason if he's firing on him, he's going to get hit in the back. 0.54

00:31:43.000 Right.

00:31:43.000 But if they knew that the taser had been fired twice, it doesn't make sense.

00:31:46.000 That's a different story.

00:31:47.000 If you can prove that he knew the taser...

00:31:48.000 For me, you can prove that he had knowledge that it was a taser.

00:32:00.000 People panic, right?

00:32:03.000 They really do.

00:32:04.000 There's things that happen to people in high-pressure situations that you can't attribute normal thinking to them in high-pressure situations.

00:32:12.000 I've had somebody also, because I've had multiple conversations.

00:32:15.000 So when stuff like this comes out, I haven't talked about this because I don't think it's a gun issue.

00:32:20.000 So I don't talk about it on my channel.

00:32:22.000 I understand.

00:32:22.000 But I do have these conversations personally.

00:32:26.000 And so I talk to different people who I know will have different perspectives.

00:32:29.000 One thing somebody pointed out to me was the idea that, like you talked about, in the moment...

00:32:33.000 With the adrenaline being pumped and then you have the tunnel vision and all that stuff that's going on.

00:32:38.000 There is a sort of kind of a reactive nature to hearing the sound of a pop going off and then a cop possibly thinking that he was shooting a gun.

00:32:48.000 That's one theory.

00:32:49.000 So does the taser pop even though it had been fired twice?

00:32:52.000 From what I'm told, it does.

00:32:54.000 It'll still pop.

00:32:55.000 It may not be effective or disperse anything, but it'll pop.

00:32:58.000 It'll still make the noise.

00:32:59.000 Oh, well, there you go.

00:33:00.000 That changes things if that happened.

00:33:03.000 But still, in the current climate, it's just...

00:33:07.000 It's hard, man, because he's like, you're right.

00:33:12.000 It's like, do we now expect the cops to be politicians as well?

00:33:15.000 Well, we also expect them to be superhuman in their ability to function under pressure.

00:33:19.000 Exactly.

00:33:20.000 With very little training.

00:33:21.000 That's not the real problem.

00:33:22.000 And that's a huge problem that I think a lot of people don't realize.

00:33:25.000 A lot of people think that cops are just these wizards with firearms.

00:33:31.000 And a lot of them are not.

00:33:32.000 And a lot of it is due to the fact that a lot of these departments don't have enough money to train them adequately.

00:33:37.000 Exactly.

00:33:38.000 And so, like, cops that I know personally, they go...

00:33:42.000 I go to courses...

00:33:44.000 Training courses and these cops are there paying for it themselves.

00:33:47.000 It's not even like the department sent them there or they're subsidizing their training.

00:33:52.000 They're there by themselves paying their own money to go to these training courses so that they can be more proficient and better at firearm handling, safety, so forth and so on.

00:34:02.000 So when I'm saying I have two positions, my one position is that I think cops need way better training.

00:34:08.000 I think it just it should be a higher priority for us to have like elite people like Navy SEAL caliber people as police officers and people that are trained to defuse situations and people are trained and also people that live in the community and people that have a relationship with people in the community so that there's more of an investment.

00:34:29.000 I do you one better.

00:34:30.000 Do me one better.

00:34:31.000 I say the entirety of our nation needs to be better trained on firearms.

00:34:36.000 We have over 300 million guns in this country.

00:34:38.000 There's absolutely no reason why we should have so many people not versed and have the knowledge necessary to own and operate a firearm safely.

00:34:47.000 So you're one of those people like a well-armed society is a polite society.

00:34:51.000 Yes, I am.

00:34:52.000 Yeah.

00:34:52.000 There's an argument for that.

00:34:54.000 And the alternative is what?

00:34:57.000 Right.

00:34:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:58.000 We are a well-armed society, period.

00:35:00.000 But I think we need to be better educated.

00:35:02.000 Yeah.

00:35:03.000 And I think the time we spend on the national stage arguing and debating gun control, we have over 300 federal gun laws on the books.

00:35:11.000 We have over 22,000 on the state and local levels.

00:35:14.000 We're past the point of gun control laws solving these issues.

00:35:17.000 I think where we're at now is the same way we want to teach kids about sex at a certain age.

00:35:23.000 Because it's inevitable.

00:35:25.000 It's the same thing with firearms.

00:35:27.000 You're going to interact and you're going to come across a gun at some point in your life in this country.

00:35:30.000 And so as a result of that, we should be talking about, all right, maybe we subsidize the idea of mass distribution of knowledge with respect to firearm use and teaching people to be responsible gun owners so as to create a culture.

00:35:43.000 That looks at firearms, one, under the guise of the Second Amendment, but also knowing how to operate them safely and responsibly.

00:35:50.000 It's so funny because people have this contradiction, right?

00:35:54.000 Part of them does not want that because they don't want to encourage firearms because they think that'll create more firearms.

00:36:02.000 I see your point, too, that the firearms already exist, and at least this will give people an understanding of the safe way to use them, the proper way to use them.

00:36:11.000 I mean, how many people have guns and they've never even fired them?

00:36:15.000 Exactly.

00:36:15.000 And now think about all of the new gun owners now.

00:36:18.000 Think about all the people who went out and panicked by—I don't like saying it, but it's truth.

00:36:21.000 They went out and they panicked by a gun that they really don't know how to use.

00:36:25.000 And so now what's—but see, who has to pick up that slack?

00:36:51.000 That's so crazy.

00:36:55.000 It's so crazy.

00:36:56.000 People have to go to your Instagram page to be educated in how to...

00:37:00.000 But there's good in that, too, because you do have a large following on Instagram, and a lot of people are going to go, and they're going to learn some things from those videos.

00:37:08.000 If I'm not shadowed, man.

00:37:09.000 Are you shadow man? 1.00

00:37:11.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:37:12.000 I get, man. 1.00

00:37:13.000 Brother, it's bad.

00:37:16.000 I can tell you, if I brought my business partner here right now and we talked about that, I'm telling you, you saw what our numbers were before in terms of who we were able to reach and what they are now?

00:37:28.000 That's ugly.

00:37:29.000 That's weird too.

00:37:30.000 It's weird because like you're not doing anything illegal.

00:37:34.000 Everything is responsible.

00:37:36.000 Everything is intelligent and you're clearly well educated on the subject both in the arguments against gun use in the Second Amendment and also the correct way to use them.

00:37:46.000 Let me play devil's advocate against myself.

00:37:47.000 Okay.

00:37:48.000 And it's based on something you said.

00:37:50.000 Could very well be the fact that they may see that aspect of me and other people like me, but they don't have the same faith in other people.

00:38:01.000 You get what I'm saying?

00:38:02.000 So they don't want the information disseminated out there to those people who they feel may not be as...

00:38:09.000 Safe.

00:38:09.000 I think you're thinking of it too kindly.

00:38:12.000 What I think is there's a left-wing perspective on guns.

00:38:17.000 Guns equal bad.

00:38:19.000 Yes.

00:38:19.000 That I'm aware of.

00:38:20.000 Yeah.

00:38:21.000 I'm just trying to get...

00:38:22.000 Noir, guns, bad.

00:38:24.000 All those.

00:38:25.000 Guns equal bad.

00:38:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:27.000 This is just...

00:38:27.000 It's a really...

00:38:29.000 And I was told that, too, when I put up some videos from Terran Tactical.

00:38:33.000 People were like, oh, you're going to get shadow banned.

00:38:34.000 I'm like, really?

00:38:35.000 Yeah.

00:38:36.000 For responsible use of guns in a place where they taught John Wick?

00:38:42.000 You would think that would not be the case.

00:38:44.000 But now, do I think you're in danger of being shadow banned?

00:38:47.000 No, because that's not what your channel or what your platform is about.

00:38:50.000 But mine is about firearm ownership.

00:38:53.000 Not to mention, I was the guy who was part of the NRA, who was with the NRA at some point.

00:38:57.000 So that doesn't give me any brownie points in that regard.

00:39:00.000 But, by and large, yes, I am shadow...

00:39:04.000 If you take a look at...

00:39:06.000 Now, things have gotten a little bit better, but I don't think it's from them loosening things.

00:39:11.000 I think it's more people are sharing my content.

00:39:14.000 Because there's nothing the algorithm can do about that.

00:39:16.000 Right.

00:39:16.000 If you see a video and you share it, there's nothing they can do about that.

00:39:18.000 Well, let's tell everybody your Instagram handle right now if they're on this.

00:39:22.000 Mr. Coleon Noir.

00:39:24.000 C-O-L-I-O-N and N-O-I-R. Okay. 1.00

00:39:27.000 Just let everybody know.

00:39:29.000 If you're like, how do I get to...

00:39:30.000 You don't have to search.

00:39:32.000 Literally just Google it and it pulls everything up.

00:39:35.000 Because some people might be just on this clip and you go, well, I don't want to go back and listen to the whole podcast. 0.99

00:39:41.000 It sucks, man. 1.00

00:39:42.000 It sucks. 1.00

00:39:43.000 Because it is a legal thing and you have a real... 0.99

00:39:47.000 Like if anybody has a legitimate, intelligent argument...

00:39:51.000 For the pros of gun ownership and ethical use of guns and correct use, it's you.

00:39:57.000 I mean, you're the best at it.

00:39:58.000 You're online.

00:40:00.000 Which would probably be the reason why they would probably want to shut me up, too.

00:40:04.000 I don't like when people are telling other people what to and not to do and it's based on their own personal ideology.

00:40:11.000 I don't like it.

00:40:12.000 I don't like it at all either.

00:40:13.000 Because I'm very much of, look, you do what you want to do with your life as long as it doesn't interfere with mine or step on any of my rights, we're good.

00:40:21.000 How Texas of you.

00:40:24.000 Texas threw it through, brother.

00:40:25.000 I'm Texas born and raised.

00:40:26.000 Yeah, it's a great place.

00:40:29.000 So, this is my two positions that I was saying before.

00:40:32.000 So, number one position, I am 100% in favor of law enforcement.

00:40:37.000 And I think they need to be better trained. 1.00

00:40:38.000 And I think you need to get rid of those bad motherfuckers. 1.00

00:40:40.000 I think there's a lot of them. 1.00

00:40:41.000 I think there's a lot of bad cops.

00:40:43.000 You need to get rid of those.

00:40:44.000 I gotta get this off because this is something that pisses me off a little bit.

00:40:49.000 That is a nuanced perspective.

00:40:51.000 However, on social media and in general, the idea of having a nuanced perspective on a particular issue is so far gone now that you can't even really have a conversation.

00:41:02.000 I can say in one breath, I am pro cop.

00:41:05.000 I am pro cop.

00:41:07.000 I have a lot of friends who are cops. 1.00

00:41:09.000 However, there are also a good number of them who are evil as fuck, probably racist, and need to be fucking dissolved from the unit. 1.00

00:41:16.000 Sociopaths, psychopaths, murderers, yes. 1.00

00:41:18.000 But for some reason, it's either, nope, either all cops are bad, or they're all good. 0.97

00:41:23.000 And that's what I can't get down with.

00:41:25.000 I just can't.

00:41:26.000 You can't get down with that.

00:41:27.000 And I'm with you.

00:41:28.000 I think we can also say in one breath, I'm pro-cop, but I'm also pro these peaceful protests.

00:41:34.000 I think these peaceful protests are important.

00:41:38.000 Maybe I did a bad job of explaining what I was trying to say, but whatever basketball player was mad at me the other day, because it was something I said that I think a lot of these people are fighting like an invisible enemy when they're protesting.

00:41:48.000 What I mean by that is Yes, we need bad cops.

00:41:53.000 Yes, cops should stop shooting, whether it's black people or white people or anybody for the wrong reason.

00:41:58.000 I remember our last segment, we made a mistake verbally and people jumped on it.

00:42:04.000 You said we need bad cops.

00:42:05.000 Did I say that?

00:42:06.000 Yeah.

00:42:07.000 Did I really? 0.98

00:42:08.000 Imagine saying, how dumb am I? We need bad cops. 0.99

00:42:11.000 We need cops. 0.81

00:42:12.000 We need good cops. 1.00

00:42:13.000 And there's definitely bad cops, and bad cops that shoot people, whatever race they are, are fucking terrible. 1.00

00:42:21.000 Clearly, there's a problem with cops shooting black people. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Clearly. 0.99

00:42:24.000 There's also statistically not even just shooting people. 0.99

00:42:28.000 If you look at the death statistics for cops and black people, there's a thing that people like to do where they say, well, actually cops shoot more white people than black people.

00:42:42.000 There are more white people than black people.

00:42:46.000 But the other thing that I think is as important if not more important is cops are physical with black people more than they are white people. 0.94

00:42:53.000 Cops are physical with brown people, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans.

00:42:56.000 They're physical with them more than they are white people statistically by as much or more than 25%. 0.96

00:43:01.000 There is a problem.

00:43:05.000 Also, there's a problem with people that don't know what they want.

00:43:10.000 They just think that defunding the cops are bad.

00:43:13.000 This is what I meant by fighting an invisible enemy.

00:43:15.000 I just did a shitty job of explaining it.

00:43:18.000 The thing we should want is...

00:43:22.000 A safe community, including people that get pulled over by cops.

00:43:26.000 So that's the one thing that needs to be addressed first, right?

00:43:29.000 Get rid of the bad cops, fund them better, train them better.

00:43:33.000 And we should all want this. 1.00

00:43:36.000 This defund the cop shit is crazy. 0.99

00:43:38.000 I think a lot of its movement has been co-opted. 1.00

00:43:42.000 By?

00:43:45.000 And I always hesitate because, like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I have to call a spade a spade.

00:43:50.000 There's a subversive group in this country that wants to topple the current structure of the United States so that they can gain power because they think they can rule better.

00:44:00.000 And a lot of those people, generally speaking, are Marxist.

00:44:04.000 Yes.

00:44:04.000 That's pretty much it.

00:44:06.000 That's why, like, I make a delineation when people ask me about Black Lives Matter, for instance.

00:44:10.000 Black Lives Matter, the sentiment, I can get down with. 1.00

00:44:13.000 Black Lives Matter, the organization, I cannot. 1.00

00:44:15.000 And why is that?

00:44:15.000 Because they are not for the same thing.

00:44:17.000 So what do you think?

00:44:19.000 The leader, the founders of Black Lives Matter, like, the founders of Black Lives Matter literally just came out and basically said she's a trained Marxist.

00:44:25.000 She didn't basically say, she said blatantly, she's a trained Marxist.

00:44:29.000 Both of them.

00:44:30.000 The founders of Black Lives Matter organization.

00:44:32.000 Are these the same folks that went on stage with Bernie Sanders at one time?

00:44:36.000 I believe so.

00:44:37.000 Don't quote me on that.

00:44:38.000 And took the mic from him?

00:44:39.000 Whoever the two women are who are the founders of Black Lives Matter, the organization, they are trained Marxists. 0.95

00:44:45.000 Said it with their own mouth on the show.

00:44:47.000 So what is their goal?

00:44:48.000 What do they want?

00:44:49.000 Well, what do Marxists want?

00:44:51.000 They want to topple their current structure. 1.00

00:44:52.000 They have their useful idiots that create chaos to topple whatever structure is in place so that they can come and fill the vacuum. 1.00

00:45:01.000 And then what do they do with the useful idiots? 1.00

00:45:05.000 They dispose of them because they are rebellious in nature and thus will topple the power structure that's in place then. 1.00

00:45:10.000 So who are the useful idiots that you think they are utilizing? 1.00

00:45:14.000 The people running around spraying Black Lives Matters. 1.00

00:45:19.000 While rioting and looting.

00:45:20.000 Not protesting, but rioting and looting.

00:45:23.000 That's the distinction.

00:45:24.000 And this is what I did a shitty job of explaining.

00:45:26.000 There's a lot of people that are out there protesting.

00:45:29.000 I don't necessarily think they understand what needs to be done.

00:45:34.000 What needs to be done to keep us safe is not defunding the police. 0.99

00:45:39.000 What needs to be done is, they need to go through the fucking police department with a fine-tooth comb and every one of these motherfuckers that has multiple complaints, just get rid of them. 1.00

00:45:48.000 Just get rid of them. 1.00

00:45:49.000 Find out what the fuck is going on. 1.00

00:45:50.000 If the multiple complaints don't make sense, then leave them alone. 0.99

00:45:54.000 But find out, like that guy, that guy that killed that guy, or anybody who could do that to a person, who could lean on a person's neck like that for eight minutes. 0.99

00:46:03.000 Someone's fucking wrong with you. 0.99

00:46:04.000 Something's fucking wrong with you, and you should have never been a cop in the first place. 1.00

00:46:06.000 And we all know that there are people like that. 1.00

00:46:09.000 When you talk to people that are in the military, there are folks that they have to work with that are fucking sociopaths. 0.99

00:46:14.000 And they hope that BUDS training and that SEAL training is going to weed those guys out, or that Ranger training, or whatever the fuck it is that they have to do, but it doesn't always. 0.99

00:46:22.000 And sometimes they get in a situation, and Jocko was talking about how you'll get an entire SEAL team that they have to disband and reset up, because they have bad leadership.

00:46:33.000 And so you did these same guys, and they come in with good leadership, and they get trained correctly, and it turns around. 0.99

00:46:38.000 And it turns out, you know, if we join some sort of a military group, and you're being led by some fucking piece of shit commander, what do you do? 0.99

00:46:47.000 Where do you go? 1.00

00:46:48.000 And your faith in the entire organization is fucked. 0.99

00:46:51.000 So a lot of this stuff is top down. 0.99

00:46:53.000 So you have a lot of these cops that are in these bad neighborhoods and they've been dealing with corruption.

00:46:58.000 There's a movie called The 75, and it's about the 75th Precinct in New York.

00:47:04.000 And Michael Dowd, who is one of the guys in the movie, was a bad cop. 0.96

00:47:08.000 And he's out now, and he did Time and shit like that. 0.99

00:47:11.000 But it's a fucking crazy movie, and I had him on the podcast. 0.98

00:47:14.000 But his first day on the job, didn't they throw a dude off a balcony or some shit like that? 1.00

00:47:19.000 He was told to shut his mouth. 1.00

00:47:21.000 Something happened, like first day on the job, he witnessed some crazy shit and he was basically told, hey motherfucker, this is how we do shit. 1.00

00:47:30.000 Like get all that fucking goody-two-shoes dragnet bullshit out of your head. 1.00

00:47:34.000 This is how we do things here. 1.00

00:47:36.000 And so then you're indoctrinated into this force that's already compromised.

00:47:40.000 And I think that's where a lot of people come from when they talk about the systemic aspect of this.

00:47:45.000 It's that culture that breeds the mentality that says, all right, this is the way things are going to be done, so you either get down or you lay down.

00:47:53.000 And so in a lot of that, that responsibility is born on the leadership in these places.

00:47:58.000 And that's what needs to happen.

00:48:00.000 There needs to be a restructuring and a reorganization of the leadership from a top-down perspective.

00:48:04.000 That I do believe.

00:48:05.000 And I agree with you.

00:48:06.000 I'm like, you got a guy who has multiple, multiple complaints.

00:48:09.000 I mean, at a certain point where there's smoke, there's probably going to be some fire somewhere.

00:48:13.000 Yes.

00:48:13.000 And so at that point, if you can't really reasonably justify why this person is getting a lot of complaints, and like you said, if it doesn't make sense why they're getting complaints, then okay, cool.

00:48:21.000 But if you're like, all right, this just seems real suspect.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:24.000 Either do a deeper investigation of it or get rid of them.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, and there's a problem with most people when you give them ultimate power over someone else.

00:48:32.000 And it's not just the power of having a gun, it's the power of being able to tell someone, do what I'm telling you to do.

00:48:38.000 There's a crazy video I watched the other day of a white guy pulling over another white guy, and he's telling the guy, get out of the car, and the guy's going, why do you want me to get out of the car? 0.97

00:48:47.000 He goes, because I'm fucking telling you to get out of the car, and he pulls out his pepper spray. 0.96

00:48:51.000 And he goes, hey man, I'm speeding. 0.98

00:48:54.000 I'm going five miles an hour over.

00:48:55.000 He goes, stop filming.

00:48:56.000 He goes, I don't have to stop filming. 0.99

00:48:58.000 And he goes, and why are you pointing your fucking pepper spray at me? 0.99

00:49:00.000 And he goes, if you don't get out of the car, I'm going to hit you with it. 0.99

00:49:03.000 And so there's this back and forth with this guy. 0.67

00:49:05.000 And he goes to hit it.

00:49:06.000 He goes, it's out.

00:49:07.000 You're lucky.

00:49:07.000 This is your lucky day.

00:49:08.000 He goes, no. 1.00

00:49:09.000 He goes, you're fucking crazy. 1.00

00:49:10.000 He's like, you're going to pepper spray me because I'm going five miles an hour over the speed limit? 1.00

00:49:14.000 So this is an example of a person who should never be in a position of having ultimate power over someone like that.

00:49:21.000 If a guy was a really good cop, was a veteran, he would have been able to defuse the situation.

00:49:26.000 He would have walked up to you, how you doing, sir?

00:49:28.000 You know why I pulled you over?

00:49:29.000 You're going a little bit fast.

00:49:30.000 You're going five miles an hour over the speed limit, blah, blah, blah, whatever it was. 0.99

00:49:33.000 You don't point fucking pepper spray at a guy just because he's filming you. 0.97

00:49:36.000 When he's filming you, he's allowed to do that. 0.99

00:49:39.000 This is like an audition for you to keep your job.

00:49:43.000 That's what it is.

00:49:44.000 Do a good job right there.

00:49:46.000 Because you're going to get on the internet right now.

00:49:48.000 And there's a lot of people that are on the internet. 0.97

00:49:50.000 There was a fucking horrible one that I watched where this guy was in this verbal altercation with this woman. 0.97

00:49:55.000 And it wasn't heated. 0.99

00:49:57.000 She didn't do anything wrong.

00:49:58.000 And he's yelling.

00:49:59.000 She's not listening. 0.56

00:50:00.000 So he grabs her, ragdolls her to the ground, face plants her, and gets her in a rear naked choke. 1.00

00:50:05.000 And he's screaming at her.

00:50:07.000 And these other... 0.92

00:50:08.000 And he's a terrible rear naked choke, too.

00:50:10.000 And these other people are standing by watching this and filming it. 0.71

00:50:14.000 And... 1.00

00:50:15.000 It's fucking madness. 0.99

00:50:17.000 This is a terrible way to handle the situation. 1.00

00:50:19.000 Just a person who's either got PTSD, or he's all fucked up, and my buddy Joe Schilling... 1.00

00:50:24.000 Oh, he's just a shitty person. 1.00

00:50:25.000 Just a shitty person who happens to get this job. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Now, guess what? 0.99

00:50:28.000 Here's the other problem.

00:50:29.000 Who's gonna be a cop now?

00:50:30.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 That's the thing.

00:50:32.000 Who's going to be a cop now?

00:50:33.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:50:34.000 I wouldn't want to be a cop right now.

00:50:35.000 I wouldn't want to be a cop now. 1.00

00:50:36.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:50:37.000 I can only imagine. 1.00

00:50:38.000 I think the problem is people don't understand.

00:50:41.000 The relationship between community and the police should be a symbiotic relationship.

00:50:46.000 That's what it should be.

00:50:47.000 Because even to the same degree, there needs to be training.

00:50:50.000 I think there needs to be training.

00:50:52.000 Not mandated training, but people should be cognizant, especially if I as a gun owner.

00:50:56.000 Someone who carries a gun on me 99% of the time in my car, on my body, on my person.

00:51:00.000 I should understand the dynamics that a police officer is looking at me from.

00:51:04.000 And dealing with people who carry guns and vice versa. 0.54

00:51:07.000 So the officer needs to understand and be aware of the fact that, okay, you're living in a population where people carry firearms.

00:51:12.000 So the ideal or the presence of a firearm in the hands of civilians should not terrify you that much.

00:51:18.000 It just shouldn't.

00:51:18.000 Now, I get it.

00:51:19.000 There are bad apples all over the place.

00:51:21.000 Thus, that brings it full circle.

00:51:23.000 Me as a citizen should understand that because there are certain people who are bad apples, who carry firearms, that are interacting with the cops and may want to do ill will towards the cops, that I as a citizen should understand and have the responsibility that says, all right, there are certain things I'm going to do whenever I'm interacting with a cop that signals to them,

00:51:39.000 hey, I don't mean you no harm, I mean you no threat.

00:51:42.000 I get pulled over, the first thing I do is I pull over, roll the windows down, I have my ID, and I have my concealed carry license in hand, right?

00:51:50.000 Everything I'm doing is just to put the cop at ease.

00:51:53.000 I'm demonstrating to the cop, look, I understand.

00:51:55.000 You don't know who I am.

00:51:57.000 I don't know who you are.

00:51:58.000 So we're going to give each other this mutual respect that says, all right, as long as you respect me, I'm going to respect you.

00:52:04.000 And generally speaking, I speed a lot.

00:52:12.000 Do you get cops recognizing you?

00:52:14.000 I have.

00:52:15.000 It's like 50-50.

00:52:16.000 Oh, that's a lot.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 50-50 is a lot.

00:52:19.000 It is a lot, actually.

00:52:20.000 And the funny thing is, the best time was I was in a car at the time.

00:52:25.000 I was in a car with my ex.

00:52:29.000 She was my then-girlfriend and one of her best friends, and we were driving back from Houston.

00:52:33.000 And so I was speeding.

00:52:35.000 And so I think I had like an M6 at the time.

00:52:38.000 And so I was speeding and he was like, you need to slow down! 0.85

00:52:41.000 I'm like, shut up.

00:52:43.000 So we're going, going, going. 0.99

00:52:44.000 And then I get pulled over.

00:52:46.000 And I get pulled over and they're laughing. 1.00

00:52:48.000 They're like, ha ha, we told you, you idiot. 1.00

00:52:50.000 Ha ha ha ha ha. 1.00

00:52:52.000 And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, I got egg on my face and shit. 0.97

00:52:56.000 And the cop comes over and he's like, he's like, yeah, you know, I do what I normally do. 0.98

00:53:00.000 Roll the windows down and have my driver's license.

00:53:02.000 He goes to the, runs my information.

00:53:05.000 He's like, You know, there might be a weird question, but you know, are you Coleon Noir?

00:53:12.000 And I was like, yeah.

00:53:14.000 And he's like, oh man, I thought it was you.

00:53:15.000 Well, this is why it's a question, because your ID is different.

00:53:18.000 Because your real name is different.

00:53:19.000 My real name is Collins, yeah.

00:53:20.000 Right.

00:53:20.000 Do you give out your real name?

00:53:22.000 I give out my real first name.

00:53:24.000 I don't give out my last name because I don't want to have to shoot anybody.

00:53:28.000 I'm being dead serious.

00:53:29.000 I mean, I get a lot of weird stuff.

00:53:31.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:53:31.000 Yeah, and I don't—I mean, look, if you want to find my real name, you can find it.

00:53:34.000 You can pull up on Wikipedia.

00:53:35.000 Right.

00:53:35.000 But I don't want to make it easy for you.

00:53:38.000 But, I mean, if you want to have those problems, let's, I mean, have at it.

00:53:42.000 But—and I could have had people threaten me before.

00:53:44.000 Over what?

00:53:45.000 Just my stance and things like that.

00:53:47.000 Threatening you for your stance on responsible gun ownership?

00:53:50.000 That's the funny thing.

00:53:51.000 I don't understand. 0.98

00:53:52.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

00:53:53.000 I don't understand it. 1.00

00:53:55.000 But I mean, there are a lot of psychos out there.

00:53:58.000 And even anti-gunners can be psychos.

00:54:01.000 I've had this conversation about you with people that are not gun owners, that don't like guns.

00:54:06.000 And I said, listen, there are people out there like yourself...

00:54:11.000 That are the best example of what you would hope for a gun owner. 0.99

00:54:15.000 And if that's your fucking neighbor, you should be happy that that guy's armed. 0.99

00:54:19.000 If some shit goes down, you need someone to help you. 1.00

00:54:21.000 You want people to be able to help themselves. 0.99

00:54:24.000 It's like that in my neighborhood.

00:54:26.000 I think people are going to have a different attitude about this with all this defund the police talk.

00:54:30.000 I really do.

00:54:31.000 And the looting and not only that, but here in Santa Monica, they have police, right?

00:54:36.000 The police are there.

00:54:37.000 And they were told to stand down.

00:54:39.000 They were told to stand there while people were looting.

00:54:41.000 I think another thing, too, I think there is a semantics issue going on with the defunded police, at least from what I'm seeing.

00:54:48.000 Because initially when I heard about the defunded police, what the hell are y'all talking about? 1.00

00:54:52.000 Like, we can't be this stupid. 1.00

00:54:54.000 I guess there is a segment, even within the defunded police, there are different sects. 1.00

00:54:59.000 There are the people who are like, no, we just need to reallocate certain portions of the funding for police in different places.

00:55:07.000 And then there are people who are like, no, we just need to absolve all police, take away the funding, and get rid of them. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Those people are out of their fucking minds. 0.99

00:55:14.000 But here's the funny thing about that. 1.00

00:55:16.000 Let's take what's going on in Seattle, right?

00:55:18.000 In Chaz. 0.71

00:55:20.000 How fast do we realize, within the blink of an eye, That crime is going to happen.

00:55:27.000 It doesn't matter what type of utopia you think you're going to establish.

00:55:31.000 There are going to be messed up people.

00:55:32.000 Well, someone got shot there yesterday.

00:55:34.000 And from what I hear, it was pretty much a hit.

00:55:37.000 Was it?

00:55:38.000 Not the one from yesterday, but the one before that, because there was another shooting.

00:55:41.000 And apparently, it seemed like it was a hit.

00:55:43.000 They were looking for this person, and they went to kill them.

00:55:45.000 And I'm like...

00:55:48.000 Chaz was supposed to be this utopia.

00:55:50.000 No cops, no money, and within a blink of an eye, what do you have?

00:55:55.000 Lord of the Flies.

00:55:56.000 They also don't have hospitals in Chaz, right?

00:55:59.000 What are you going to do if someone does get shot?

00:56:01.000 Well, apparently somebody bled out because...

00:56:03.000 Because the cops probably don't want to go in there.

00:56:05.000 Well, they wouldn't let him in from what I saw.

00:56:08.000 This is not going to end well, folks.

00:56:10.000 It's not.

00:56:10.000 It's not going to end well.

00:56:11.000 The way to handle this, in my opinion, is to fix the current structure, to do it in a logical way that makes sense.

00:56:21.000 It's not to take everything down.

00:56:23.000 So take this back to what you were saying about Black Lives Matter.

00:56:26.000 Don't you think there's probably people in Black Lives Matter who don't have these sort of Marxist ideas?

00:56:31.000 They just don't want black people getting shot by cops. 0.61

00:56:33.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:56:34.000 The sentiment of Black Lives Matter, I am all for it.

00:56:37.000 As am I. Yeah, I'm all for it.

00:56:39.000 The organization, though, that's the problem I have because they're essentially the leadership of this.

00:56:45.000 So you think that the leadership has almost like a secret motive that the people that are involved that are doing all the groundwork probably aren't even aware of?

00:56:55.000 They're not.

00:56:56.000 And I did a whole video about it.

00:56:57.000 Yeah.

00:56:57.000 Because I remember Black Lives Matter, and it was a video I did, I think, two years ago.

00:57:01.000 And this is when I was with the NRA. And Black Lives Matter was attacking the NRA, basically saying that they don't really care about black gun ownership, so forth and so on.

00:57:10.000 It was like an attack piece.

00:57:11.000 And I think it was the branch of Black Lives Matter that's here in L.A., actually.

00:57:15.000 And so I did a response video.

00:57:17.000 And it was like...

00:57:19.000 15-20 minute video.

00:57:21.000 And I broke it down systematically.

00:57:22.000 I'm like, alright, well, okay, we started off with Black Lives Matter because of police brutality.

00:57:27.000 Cool, I'm all for it.

00:57:28.000 But what has happened now?

00:57:30.000 All of a sudden they get this massive wave of funding and their whole direction shifts into some other stuff that I have no idea what it has to do with anything.

00:57:39.000 Like what?

00:57:39.000 With respect to.

00:57:40.000 Now it's become this kind of like all-encompassing umbrella of LGBTQ and some other stuff. 1.00

00:57:45.000 But then even aspects of, I guess, I don't want to say Antifa is under the umbrella, but the whole Marxist kind of communist socialist aspects of politics kind of creeping into that as well.

00:57:57.000 And then when you couple that with the idea that you have the actual founders saying that they're trained in Marxism, and then you have what you see now playing out where you have these very peaceful protests being co-opted by violent people who are now just engaging in rioting and looting and then branding it Black Lives Matter.

00:58:15.000 There are wolves hiding among sheep.

00:58:17.000 I think there's a bunch of things happening at the same time.

00:58:20.000 And I think when it comes to the rioting and looting, I think there's a lot of just opportunists.

00:58:24.000 No, absolutely.

00:58:24.000 I don't think they're necessarily that organized.

00:58:26.000 Some of it is organized.

00:58:28.000 Some of it, maybe.

00:58:28.000 I do believe that.

00:58:29.000 And you're right, because there was, for instance, in Dallas.

00:58:32.000 In Dallas, one of the coffee shops that I go to all the time, he was telling me, he was like...

00:58:37.000 All the windows were broken out.

00:58:39.000 And really, he was like, they really was just a bunch of kids just running around taking advantage of the chaos and just kind of breaking windows.

00:58:45.000 And you have to take into consideration these kids haven't worked in three months. 1.00

00:58:47.000 They're probably broke as fuck and looking for free shit. 1.00

00:58:50.000 There's a ton of them. 1.00

00:58:51.000 And there's just opportunists.

00:58:53.000 And you saw that in New York, for sure.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:56.000 I'm pretty sure y'all had that here, too.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:58:58.000 For sure.

00:58:58.000 But the crazy thing about New York is a lot of it was apartment buildings filming down on the streets.

00:59:05.000 Because, you know, in New York everyone's in...

00:59:07.000 Yeah.

00:59:08.000 So they're filming.

00:59:09.000 There's so many videos of people filming on the streets where all this madness is going. 0.87

00:59:13.000 This one crazy video where all these people are breaking into shit and this guy runs in the street and another guy hits him with a car and he goes flying through the air and the car takes off. 0.98

00:59:20.000 Bro, it's mad. 0.97

00:59:22.000 And then they're just smashing through Soho and breaking into art galleries and stealing everything and like...

00:59:27.000 It's nuts, man.

00:59:29.000 But it bodes a question.

00:59:31.000 When you have chaos, you inevitably will get destruction.

00:59:36.000 Yes.

00:59:37.000 I mean, that's what happens, which is why you need structure.

00:59:41.000 Keep in mind, I am no fan of big government.

00:59:44.000 I'll be the first one to tell you.

00:59:45.000 I am no fan of big government.

00:59:47.000 However, you do need a level of law and order.

00:59:50.000 Here's where I'm a fan of big government, and I wish it did a better job. 0.99

00:59:55.000 When the COVID shit went down and no one could work. 0.98

00:59:59.000 Now, it turned out that COVID was not nearly as deadly as we were worried it was. 0.99

01:00:03.000 But it could have been.

01:00:04.000 And no one could work, and that's why everybody stayed locked up.

01:00:07.000 When that happened, that's when we needed money.

01:00:10.000 That's when we needed stimulus checks.

01:00:12.000 That's when we needed people to get that $1,200 that they only handed out once. 0.97

01:00:16.000 Like, how fucking crazy is that?

01:00:18.000 They handed out trillions of dollars to all these corporations, and they handed 1,200 bucks out once to a... 0.97

01:00:24.000 I mean, I don't know how many people got it.

01:00:26.000 I don't know either, but... 0.99

01:00:27.000 But that's not enough for humans to live off of it for three fucking months. 0.95

01:00:30.000 If there was a time to ever do that, it was then. 0.97

01:00:32.000 It was then.

01:00:32.000 That was the time where big government made sense, and it didn't work out.

01:00:36.000 No, it didn't.

01:00:36.000 And there was all these empty promises, and it's like they got away with giving out one check, and then they stopped.

01:00:42.000 But it was supposed to be a constant thing, right?

01:00:45.000 From my understanding, I mean, I didn't get anything clearly, but from my understanding, it was supposed to be a constant thing, and it didn't happen the way it happened.

01:00:53.000 But it should demonstrate to a lot of people You're going to take the same government and put your safety completely in the hands of the same government?

01:01:03.000 Right.

01:01:03.000 It just doesn't make sense to me.

01:01:04.000 To me, the government is supposed to be value added to what I'm already capable of doing myself.

01:01:10.000 That's a good way of looking at it.

01:01:12.000 And so, but I think too many people depend on the government entirely.

01:01:16.000 And I don't think that's smart.

01:01:17.000 Right.

01:01:18.000 I just don't.

01:01:18.000 And I'm not saying that life is fair.

01:01:20.000 I'm not saying that the system we have in place is fair.

01:01:23.000 It's not.

01:01:24.000 It's not fair.

01:01:25.000 It's just, but what are you going to do?

01:01:28.000 What are you going to do?

01:01:30.000 The way I was raised and the way that my mom raised me was, literally, life is not fair, son.

01:01:35.000 Deal with it.

01:01:36.000 Figure it out.

01:01:37.000 Find a way around it.

01:01:38.000 And that's the way I go about life.

01:01:40.000 A lot of people don't like that.

01:01:42.000 Some people think it's too optimistic.

01:01:43.000 It's not optimistic.

01:01:44.000 It's realistic, unfortunately.

01:01:46.000 Whether it's optimistic or pessimistic, it's realistic. 0.91

01:01:50.000 When you get a hand of cards, and if you're dealt a shit hand of cards and you just sit around complaining about it, it doesn't do you any good. 0.73

01:01:58.000 There's people that have been dealt shittier hands and they've figured it out. 0.99

01:02:02.000 It sucks. 1.00

01:02:03.000 It sucks to be dealt a shitty hand of cards. 1.00

01:02:04.000 And I understand envy. 0.97

01:02:06.000 I understand when you're looking at people that have dealt an amazing hand of cards.

01:02:09.000 Yeah.

01:02:09.000 No, the funny thing about it is I think I tweeted out some time ago.

01:02:14.000 I listened to a lot of rap, a lot of trap music.

01:02:19.000 And I'm not from the streets.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, sure.

01:02:22.000 There was a period of my life where I lived was basically the slums.

01:02:26.000 But I'm not a street dude.

01:02:28.000 Never sold drugs.

01:02:29.000 None of that.

01:02:30.000 However, there's a certain aspect of that music.

01:02:34.000 An understanding that there are a lot of people who have come from worse places than me.

01:02:38.000 Who have managed to kind of bring themselves out of it.

01:02:41.000 That when I look at my life, I say, well, I have no excuse.

01:02:45.000 I have no excuse whatsoever.

01:02:46.000 So I need to figure out a way to make my situation better.

01:02:49.000 However, now, there's no guarantee I'll be able to do it.

01:02:52.000 I may work my ass off and still fail. 0.94

01:02:56.000 But I'm gonna keep working my ass. 0.96

01:02:58.000 That's part of the game of life. 0.95

01:03:00.000 The unfortunate thing is that some people are not gifted with a parent that gives them the sort of perspective that your mom gave you.

01:03:09.000 That life is not fair, deal with it, and then you go forth with that knowledge.

01:03:13.000 There's a lot of people out there that unfortunately, they're born into terrible households where they're abused and there's crime around them and violence and they never get a chance. 0.99

01:03:21.000 They never get a chance, and I get it, because they've developed in these abusive mentalities, these mentalities that develop in this fucked up situation. 0.85

01:03:31.000 And that's the thing, too, that I think that's a problem with the conversation that's going on. 0.98

01:03:34.000 Too many people are too dismissive of that reality, right?

01:03:36.000 Because even though I can sit here and tell you, basically what I'm saying is pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

01:03:41.000 That's essentially what I'm saying.

01:03:42.000 Or at least that's the way I look at life.

01:03:43.000 I'm like, figure out a way. 0.98

01:03:44.000 If I don't have boots, figure out a way to get the boots so I can pull my ass up. 0.89

01:03:52.000 We're good to go.

01:04:01.000 You know, like Lil Baby.

01:04:03.000 Lil Baby just came out with a song, right, called Bigger Picture. 0.99

01:04:06.000 And in it he was like, I'm just a product of my environment.

01:04:08.000 Nobody taught us any better.

01:04:11.000 So as a result of that, I look at that, and I understand what the 80s crack epidemic did to black families during that time period.

01:04:17.000 So now you have crackheads raising crackheads and then having kids.

01:04:24.000 That's essentially what happened as a result of that.

01:04:27.000 So to ignore that and to say, nah, nah, nah, you know, everybody has it hard, which they do, but you can't discount it and say that it doesn't have an effect.

01:04:36.000 Because there is an aspect of being so low, you really don't stand a chance in hell.

01:04:41.000 And to dismiss that wholesale, I think is disingenuous.

01:04:46.000 Now, what do we do about it?

01:04:48.000 I'm not smart enough to have the answer for that.

01:04:51.000 But there needs to be something.

01:04:55.000 At bare minimum, at least have the conversation.

01:04:57.000 Yeah, I think the conversation should be, how come you guys had trillions of dollars to bail out these corporations during the COVID lockdown, but you didn't have trillions of dollars to fix these impoverished communities that have been in the same situation for decades?

01:05:09.000 Thank you.

01:05:10.000 Freaking decades, man.

01:05:12.000 Nailed it.

01:05:13.000 It's nuts, man.

01:05:14.000 That's what it is.

01:05:14.000 It's like there's so much money that you can spend to avoid an economic collapse, but yet there's no money to fix what's been an economic collapse forever.

01:05:23.000 I mean, what are you doing with my money?

01:05:24.000 I pay 30% taxes. 0.99

01:05:25.000 What the fuck are you doing with my money then? 0.98

01:05:26.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:05:28.000 Exactly.

01:05:28.000 You know, and I've said it again.

01:05:30.000 I've said it before.

01:05:30.000 I'll say it again.

01:05:31.000 If you want to make America great, you would want less losers. 0.97

01:05:34.000 How do you have less losers?

01:05:35.000 Give people more of an opportunity to get better.

01:05:37.000 Give people more of an opportunity to succeed.

01:05:40.000 They should look at all those spots, whether it's Baltimore or Detroit or South Side of Chicago, look at all those spots in this country as places where people have much less of a chance.

01:05:52.000 So if you give them more of a chance, you're going to have more productive people, you're going to have a stronger country.

01:05:56.000 It's really simple.

01:05:58.000 Simple.

01:05:59.000 And the funny thing is, you'll probably see the most growth happen in those places.

01:06:03.000 It's just like lifting weights.

01:06:04.000 If I haven't lifted in 20 years, you start lifting weights on a regular basis, you're like, yo, I'm seeing transformations.

01:06:09.000 It's only when you've been doing it for a while, you're like, oh man, I'm stagnating.

01:06:13.000 Yes, good point.

01:06:14.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:06:15.000 You know, and it would, it's also, we're supposed to be a community.

01:06:18.000 Yeah.

01:06:19.000 You know, I mean, that's one thing that I do love about these peaceful protests.

01:06:23.000 All these people marching together, whether or not they're all going to get COVID or not, which is, they probably, a lot of them are.

01:06:28.000 Don't get me started on that.

01:06:28.000 That's a fact.

01:06:29.000 You know?

01:06:30.000 Especially at night.

01:06:32.000 Apparently, Brett Weinstein sent me something, Jamie.

01:06:35.000 I'll send it to you.

01:06:37.000 It's very interesting.

01:06:38.000 But one of the things that they found out about COVID is that it dies almost instantly, airborne COVID, when it hits UV light.

01:06:47.000 Really?

01:06:48.000 Yeah, I'm going to send you this, Jamie.

01:06:51.000 Which is really kind of crazy.

01:06:52.000 Yeah, so it's one of the reasons why apparently...

01:06:59.000 It wasn't a link?

01:07:02.000 Really?

01:07:03.000 I'm sorry.

01:07:04.000 Hold on.

01:07:05.000 Yeah, I'll do this and then I'll do this.

01:07:08.000 Yeah, this will work.

01:07:11.000 Here we go.

01:07:13.000 It's rapidly inactivated by simulated sunlight or sunlight.

01:07:18.000 Yeah, just UV light kills it.

01:07:19.000 Yeah.

01:07:20.000 You're going to see me running around my house.

01:07:22.000 It's going to look like a ray fire.

01:07:23.000 I know.

01:07:23.000 But what's interesting is what Brett Weinstein's...

01:07:28.000 What his theory was, or his thought was, he's a biologist, and he was on the podcast last week, and one of the things that he pointed out was there's all these indications that this is something that escaped from a lab, like very specific indications.

01:07:43.000 That's what I'm saying too.

01:07:44.000 Yeah, and these indications are basically the way it evolved.

01:07:46.000 It evolved far too quickly. 0.95

01:07:48.000 And then he pointed out some things that I'm not going to remember because I'm a moron. 0.56

01:07:51.000 But he said also it seems like because of the fact that it dies in sunlight, but it spreads very easily without sunlight, it's very contagious. 0.92

01:08:02.000 He thinks it may have evolved in this laboratory environment to be more contagious while indoors.

01:08:07.000 So his thought is that this is something that they probably had created in order to test various antiviral medications and all these different things, and that during this process somehow or another it got out.

01:08:24.000 And it's one of the reasons why this thing spread so quickly to people indoors.

01:08:27.000 Gotcha.

01:08:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:29.000 But it's so fucking, it's so crazy, it's so contentious. 0.99

01:08:32.000 That's another thing people got mad at me, because I was saying that you didn't have to wear a mask. 0.99

01:08:35.000 Well, that's what I read.

01:08:38.000 The CDC was saying that unless you're dealing with COVID patients, or was it the World Health Organization. 0.99

01:08:43.000 But then again, also I was saying it to fuck with my friend Bill Burr. 0.97

01:08:46.000 I think you should know this, folks. 0.99

01:08:47.000 When I was saying that, I was trolling Bill Burr to try to get him to go on a rant.

01:08:52.000 But maybe it was the Kyle Dunnigan show, too.

01:08:55.000 Listen, don't listen to me. 1.00

01:08:56.000 I'm a moron. 1.00

01:08:57.000 Go online. 1.00

01:08:58.000 But don't get mad at me, either. 0.99

01:09:00.000 I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.98

01:09:02.000 Oh, man. 0.99

01:09:03.000 But I do know that there's these giant spikes in all these cities where they had big protests.

01:09:08.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 I mean, that's kind of...

01:09:10.000 It's going to happen.

01:09:11.000 I mean, yeah.

01:09:11.000 I mean, you have a highly dense populated area with a bunch of people marching, sweating, and...

01:09:16.000 But what's hilarious is they're blaming it on Republican governors opening up the states too early.

01:09:21.000 That's what they keep blaming it on.

01:09:23.000 God, man, this party politics stuff is so...

01:09:24.000 It drives me insane, man.

01:09:26.000 But it's happening in California, too.

01:09:27.000 You can't do that.

01:09:29.000 This is a super liberal progressive state.

01:09:31.000 It's happening right here, too.

01:09:32.000 We're going to drive ourselves crazy with this political idea.

01:09:36.000 They should make political parties illegal.

01:09:38.000 They really should.

01:09:39.000 I'm not against it.

01:09:40.000 You can't say you're a Republican or a Democrat.

01:09:45.000 It's just too confusing to people.

01:09:46.000 I just want you to tell me what you want to do.

01:09:48.000 Yeah, tell me what you want.

01:09:49.000 What do you want to do?

01:09:50.000 Yeah, what do you want to do?

01:09:51.000 And then we can talk.

01:09:52.000 Let's have that conversation.

01:09:53.000 Stop hiding behind a donkey or an elephant. 1.00

01:09:56.000 You confuse the fuck out of me. 0.99

01:09:59.000 I'm of the same nature. 0.57

01:10:01.000 What are we doing, man?

01:10:03.000 We keep playing this game.

01:10:04.000 What it does is it creates extremes.

01:10:06.000 And so without extremes, again, no nuance.

01:10:10.000 Without nuance, we really don't solve anything.

01:10:12.000 Everything becomes a nail and everyone's a hammer.

01:10:15.000 That's pretty much what happens.

01:10:16.000 And so we need more scalpels.

01:10:19.000 That's what we need.

01:10:19.000 We need more options.

01:10:21.000 You know, this two-party option that's left us with Joe Biden or Donald Trump is so bonkers.

01:10:26.000 That's another thing people got mad at me last week.

01:10:28.000 Because I said that Joe Biden is experiencing cognitive decline and people are...

01:10:32.000 Well, how has anybody not seen that?

01:10:34.000 Thank you.

01:10:35.000 I don't think they're really mad. 0.63

01:10:37.000 I think it's just people that think that I'm going to fuck up the Democrats' options.

01:10:42.000 That somehow or another people are going to listen to me and not vote. 0.84

01:10:44.000 But come on!

01:10:45.000 It's not even, like, look.

01:10:47.000 It's not debatable.

01:10:48.000 It's not.

01:10:49.000 It's not.

01:10:49.000 It's not debatable.

01:10:50.000 Can you imagine if Trump was that confused all the time?

01:10:54.000 They would be hammering him at him.

01:10:55.000 Hammering him. 0.98

01:10:56.000 Hard.

01:10:56.000 And by the way, he has been confused before.

01:10:58.000 Don't get it wrong.

01:10:59.000 I mean, but they're both old.

01:11:00.000 What's that? 1.00

01:11:01.000 They're both old as fuck. 1.00

01:11:02.000 And also, I think Trump's medicated. 1.00

01:11:04.000 I think when I've seen these videos where he's like...

01:11:07.000 David Pakman had a bunch that he put up where he's like slurring his words. 0.98

01:11:11.000 I think he's like coming down off some shit or... 0.99

01:11:14.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:11:15.000 Like I think he's on some uppers.

01:11:17.000 I think he's on some...

01:11:18.000 I think that's how he's so peppy when he does those rallies. 1.00

01:11:21.000 If that's the case, give that same shit to Joe Biden. 1.00

01:11:26.000 It's too late. 1.00

01:11:26.000 Because it's ridiculous, man. 1.00

01:11:29.000 It's beyond politics. 0.98

01:11:30.000 Yes.

01:11:30.000 Beyond politics.

01:11:31.000 Just his cognitive ability.

01:11:33.000 I can't vote for him alone on that.

01:11:34.000 Right.

01:11:35.000 Now, granted, his politics completely...

01:11:36.000 He's not...

01:11:37.000 He didn't stand a chance in hell with me.

01:11:39.000 But cognitively, no.

01:11:41.000 It's not it, man.

01:11:42.000 Who are you going to vote for?

01:11:43.000 Do you know?

01:11:44.000 Right now, I'll probably do the same thing I did last time.

01:11:49.000 But...

01:11:50.000 Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm at.

01:11:51.000 What does that mean?

01:11:52.000 I voted for Trump last time.

01:11:53.000 Did you?

01:11:53.000 How dare you?

01:11:54.000 Yeah, I know, right?

01:11:55.000 People get mad at you?

01:11:56.000 Oh, all the time.

01:11:57.000 Really?

01:11:57.000 Yeah, but I'm a pragmatic voter.

01:11:59.000 Did they get mad at you for that more or the Black Lives Matter position you were just describing?

01:12:06.000 Well, the Black Lives Matter, we'll find out. 0.94

01:12:08.000 The Black Lives Matter position I described, I hadn't talked about that in almost two years.

01:12:12.000 But you talked about it on your videos?

01:12:14.000 I did before, yeah.

01:12:15.000 Some people understood where I was coming from.

01:12:17.000 People have to understand, I really, really, really try to remove all sense of emotion when I try to assess or analyze the situation.

01:12:25.000 I look at things as pragmatic as I possibly can.

01:12:29.000 Not discounting my emotions.

01:12:31.000 I just try to remove it when I'm analyzing it and then make my decision.

01:12:34.000 I'm still human.

01:12:35.000 So I'm gonna have my biases.

01:12:37.000 But I am very practical.

01:12:39.000 And I also understand I have a platform that is rather large.

01:12:43.000 So it's irresponsible for me to just go off on emotional tirades based on how I feel without investigating facts.

01:12:51.000 Now, have I been wrong?

01:12:52.000 Yeah.

01:12:53.000 Have I maybe shot my mouth off a little bit beforehand before I should have?

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:57.000 But I try to learn from those mistakes.

01:13:00.000 And then another thing, too, because there is no nuance, most of the people who are mad at me, especially with the Black Lives Matter aspect of things, I don't have a problem with the Black Lives Matter sentiment. 0.94

01:13:12.000 I'm freaking black. 0.91

01:13:14.000 Right. 0.98

01:13:16.000 I don't understand that.

01:13:18.000 However, I'm not a fan of the organization.

01:13:20.000 You're not a fan of Marxism.

01:13:22.000 I'm not.

01:13:22.000 Yeah, I understand.

01:13:24.000 Actually, you know what?

01:13:24.000 That's a beautiful way of putting it.

01:13:26.000 Remove that Marxist element of it when we talk.

01:13:29.000 That's what's interesting.

01:13:30.000 It's like every movement gets kind of co-opted by some of the ideas that are attached to the movement.

01:13:36.000 It's like sometimes they have a really good bill, right?

01:13:38.000 And they're trying to pass like a stimulus bill. 0.98

01:13:40.000 And then you look in the bill and there's all sorts of wacky shit that people are trying to shove into things. 0.97

01:13:44.000 It's kind of deliberate. 0.98

01:13:45.000 They'll pollute it so it doesn't get passed.

01:13:47.000 That's a big part of politics.

01:13:49.000 But you don't expect that from something that seems so organic, like Black Lives Matter. 0.77

01:13:54.000 Michael Che has a great bit about it, but he's like, think about...

01:13:57.000 I'm going to fuck up the bit, but it's basically just the sentiment.

01:14:02.000 All we're saying is they matter. 0.90

01:14:04.000 Even people argue that.

01:14:07.000 That's where I look at the disingenuous nature of the conversations that are being had.

01:14:12.000 It's as simple as this.

01:14:13.000 Like, I don't see why anybody would get mad at Black Lives Matter, and I don't understand why anybody would get mad at All Lives Matter.

01:14:18.000 But I can see why somebody would get mad at someone saying All Lives Matter in response to Black Lives Matter, because what it seems like it's doing is just undermining and just kind of tossing aside the aspect of the complaint.

01:14:30.000 Right.

01:14:30.000 The complaint is cops have been killing black people and it's on video and we all should be outraged.

01:14:36.000 We should. 0.99

01:14:37.000 Yes.

01:14:38.000 And if it is, because people do make the argument that, well, all lies matter and more white people are killed by cops. 0.71

01:14:44.000 And you're right. 0.93

01:14:45.000 And I think you should be as equally mad.

01:14:48.000 I do.

01:14:49.000 Police brutality should not stop at a race.

01:14:53.000 Police brutality is police brutality.

01:14:55.000 So my thing is this.

01:14:57.000 If we live in a country and we're supposed to be all one, all lives do matter.

01:15:00.000 We do.

01:15:01.000 However, if there is a particularized group of people within that inclusiveness that feel like their lives don't matter, At bare minimum, we should have that conversation.

01:15:12.000 We should just at least have that conversation and say, alright, why do you feel that way?

01:15:17.000 What is it exactly that makes you think that your life doesn't matter?

01:15:20.000 And then when we go through the particular points and address each one, you know what?

01:15:24.000 It may be coming from nowhere.

01:15:26.000 It may be delusion.

01:15:27.000 Or it may be completely, utterly valid.

01:15:29.000 But at bare minimum, if we can't even get to the point where we have the conversation because our instinctive gut is to say, no, all lies matter.

01:15:36.000 What are you talking about?

01:15:37.000 It's not fair.

01:15:39.000 It's not fair.

01:15:40.000 I'm not saying one side is right or the other.

01:15:42.000 What I'm saying is we're going to be a country that's all one people.

01:15:45.000 And there's a part of it that's telling you, we don't feel like we matter.

01:15:50.000 Right.

01:15:50.000 We need to address it.

01:15:52.000 Yes. 0.99

01:15:52.000 And understand why the fuck they feel that way. 0.99

01:15:54.000 If the Indian people were saying the same thing, Indian lives don't matter. 0.99

01:15:59.000 I don't really...

01:16:00.000 I'm not Indian.

01:16:01.000 I didn't grow up in the culture.

01:16:02.000 I don't know what particularized issues you may have growing up in this society.

01:16:05.000 I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

01:16:07.000 But... 0.98

01:16:08.000 Talk to me.

01:16:09.000 Let me hear you out.

01:16:09.000 Right.

01:16:10.000 Because clearly you feel some type of way.

01:16:12.000 So let me hear what you have to say about that.

01:16:14.000 And then we can have that conversation and say, all right, maybe we'll reach a point where they go, you know what?

01:16:19.000 Maybe I was taking this a little too far. 0.98

01:16:21.000 Or maybe I go, damn, I didn't realize that. 0.92

01:16:24.000 I've been so consumed with my life that I didn't realize that you had to go through these difficulties as well that I didn't have to. 0.97

01:16:29.000 Right.

01:16:30.000 You know, but we can't even get to that point because we're so polarized.

01:16:34.000 Right.

01:16:34.000 So polarized.

01:16:35.000 I think we're doing better at it than we ever have before, though, just because of the fact there's been these gigantic peaceful protests and the conversation is going.

01:16:43.000 And also because, look, I don't think it's good that people get fired for saying all lives matter, but they do get fired for saying all lives matter now.

01:16:51.000 I hate cancel culture.

01:16:52.000 It's kind of crazy. 0.91

01:16:52.000 I can't stand it. 0.91

01:16:53.000 I think people should be allowed to say whatever they want without fear of retribution.

01:16:56.000 Well, I do too, but it's fascinating to me that there's these fearful people that want to cancel people for every mistake and everything they've done wrong.

01:17:04.000 One thing that I had a conversation with somebody about it when they were saying, like, what's wrong with saying all lives matter?

01:17:10.000 I'm like, there's nothing wrong with saying all lives matter, but here's the problem.

01:17:13.000 The only reason why people are saying black lives matter is because there's people out there that don't feel like they matter.

01:17:20.000 If you said white lives matter, people would be like, duh. 0.97

01:17:25.000 You couldn't have a movement in this country that says white lives matter. 1.00

01:17:29.000 People would be like, what the fuck are you complaining about? 0.99

01:17:31.000 But here's the thing about that, too, though. 0.99

01:17:36.000 In a country as mixed as we are, everyone has the particularized issues in this country.

01:17:42.000 Everybody has their own problems as a group.

01:17:45.000 I'm not going to discount your problems because I don't suffer from them.

01:17:48.000 So if you want to tell me all white lives matter, cool. 1.00

01:17:52.000 I'm not white. 0.96

01:17:53.000 I don't know what the hell you're going through. 0.91

01:17:54.000 I mean, I'll hear you out.

01:17:56.000 What's the issue?

01:17:57.000 Because I'm still living in this country with you.

01:17:59.000 I consider you my brother.

01:18:01.000 So we may have a different upbringing, a different cultural background.

01:18:03.000 But tell me, what is the issue that you're dealing with?

01:18:06.000 And why do you feel that way? 0.95

01:18:08.000 Because right now, from my standpoint, as a black person, I may look at you and say, well, what the hell are you complaining about? 1.00

01:18:13.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.98

01:18:14.000 All Lives Matter at least makes some sense that we should all be together. 0.99

01:18:18.000 Like, if you're talking about police brutality in particular, yeah, bad cops kill all kinds of people. 0.98

01:18:23.000 There's plenty of videos of cops killing white people. 0.94

01:18:25.000 There's a horrible video of those cops pushing that old man down. 0.98

01:18:28.000 He can't even walk now.

01:18:30.000 That's so messed up. 1.00

01:18:30.000 That old man has a broken skull and he can't fucking walk and he's got permanent brain damage and he's old as fuck. 1.00

01:18:36.000 And then Trump goes and says some crazy shit like he might have been Antifa and he might have been like... 1.00

01:18:42.000 He's old as fuck. 1.00

01:18:45.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

01:18:46.000 That is the crazy...

01:18:47.000 Like to look at that video and not say, hey, you shouldn't push an old man like that. 1.00

01:18:53.000 Yeah, I thought that was unnecessary as hell.

01:18:54.000 I don't know what the guy was saying to the cops, but there's no...

01:18:58.000 I mean, it's an old guy.

01:18:59.000 He felt too easy. 1.00

01:19:02.000 I'm like, bitch, you can't even walk down a ramp. 1.00

01:19:03.000 I think what happened... 1.00

01:19:05.000 Right? 0.99

01:19:06.000 He spent 10 minutes in his fucking speech the other day talking about why it was so hard to walk down the ramp. 0.99

01:19:12.000 My shoes were slippery. 1.00

01:19:13.000 I get it, man.

01:19:15.000 But you can't even walk down a ramp.

01:19:16.000 If you had those slippery shoes on, you're telling me you wouldn't fall down like that old man?

01:19:19.000 I bet you would. 1.00

01:19:20.000 I bet you fucking would. 1.00

01:19:21.000 But I think sometimes what happens... 0.99

01:19:23.000 I think it's weird because I think the problem is sometimes is...

01:19:26.000 And I suffer from it too.

01:19:27.000 Man, we get so much information so fast.

01:19:30.000 Right.

01:19:30.000 And it's hard to keep up with it.

01:19:32.000 It's hard for me.

01:19:32.000 People ask me, why don't you talk about this?

01:19:34.000 Why don't you talk about that?

01:19:34.000 It's like, it's not a gun issue.

01:19:35.000 Well, why don't you talk?

01:19:36.000 I can barely keep up with the gun issue.

01:19:38.000 Right.

01:19:38.000 Much less anything else.

01:19:40.000 I think he suffers from that sometimes, too.

01:19:42.000 He'll see something.

01:19:43.000 He suffers from the same kind of headline focus.

01:19:46.000 He'll see it and won't really investigate it any further.

01:19:48.000 And then he'll just and then he'll kind of take whatever confirmation bias he may have over here and over here and just kind of throw it together and then he'll say something.

01:19:55.000 I think you're 100% right.

01:19:56.000 I think he has too many things going on.

01:19:58.000 First of all, I don't think anybody should be president. 0.98

01:20:00.000 I think it's a ridiculous position.

01:20:02.000 And I think it should be like a council of wise folks. 0.96

01:20:04.000 That's what it should be.

01:20:06.000 That becomes an oligarchy.

01:20:07.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:20:08.000 Good point. 1.00

01:20:09.000 But what the fuck, man? 1.00

01:20:10.000 Being a president, that's not good either. 0.99

01:20:12.000 But even then within that, I mean, some people would argue president is nothing more than a ceremonial position.

01:20:18.000 Right, but we pin all these problems on them.

01:20:22.000 Like, we pin COVID on them.

01:20:24.000 We pin North Korea on them. 0.99

01:20:26.000 We pin China, trade relations.

01:20:28.000 We pin war with Iran, war with Syria, war with this, that. 0.77

01:20:32.000 There's so many different things. 0.99

01:20:33.000 The environment, oh, what are you doing to these fucking fracking? 0.98

01:20:37.000 I respect anybody who's a president. 0.99

01:20:39.000 I may not agree with you.

01:20:41.000 But to be in that position and do what you have to deal with, I have no choice but to respect it, which is why I will always respect the office and who's in it.

01:20:47.000 Well, I hope they do well.

01:20:49.000 That's what I do.

01:20:50.000 Yeah.

01:20:51.000 I want them to do well.

01:20:52.000 The idea that there's some people that wanted Trump to fail and they wanted the economy to collapse.

01:20:57.000 To prove themselves right.

01:20:58.000 So he would get removed from office.

01:21:00.000 No, they just want to prove themselves right.

01:21:01.000 There's a little bit of that too, but it's also like, come on, man, that is bad for everybody.

01:21:05.000 What you really should be is like...

01:21:09.000 What everybody should be hopeful or should have been hopeful for when he got erected is to be pleasantly surprised. 0.99

01:21:14.000 Pleasantly surprised that he said, like, I'm sorry all the shit I said about Mexicans being rapists, but now I'm not gonna do that anymore. 0.98

01:21:21.000 I'm gonna do my best to make this place the best place to be. 0.98

01:21:23.000 Even that, even that was taken out of context.

01:21:26.000 Yes. 1.00

01:21:27.000 And so it's like, and it sucks, because here's another thing, because people always like to say that, man, people are dumb. 0.99

01:21:33.000 And I'm like, I don't want to think that. 0.99

01:21:35.000 More and more I start to think that.

01:21:36.000 But what I think a lot of it is, is man, we have so much information now, and so many people are angling for their own agenda based on the same information.

01:21:46.000 You don't know what's what.

01:21:48.000 And so we were getting these bits of it.

01:21:49.000 If I'm worried about raising my kids, working, providing for my family, it's going to be hard for me to intellectualize.

01:21:56.000 I mean, we do this for a living.

01:21:57.000 So it's going to be hard for somebody who's just trying to raise a family.

01:22:00.000 Hell, it's not like you don't have a family to raise either.

01:22:03.000 But it's hard to be able to parse through all the information we have at our disposal to come out with what's actually true and correct or full context.

01:22:12.000 You know, I mean, that's the other thing.

01:22:14.000 It's so difficult for someone like me who does talk for a living, and I fuck things up all the time.

01:22:19.000 You know, and I can't imagine being in charge of as many things as anybody that is a president or a governor or even a mayor is in charge. 0.99

01:22:29.000 It must be fucking insane. 0.98

01:22:30.000 Yeah, no, it's nutty, man. 0.99

01:22:31.000 I know what I have to deal with.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 In terms of just my little platform over here in this little small area. 0.52

01:22:37.000 And it's a lot, man, because especially if you actually give a damn. 0.78

01:22:41.000 Yes, if I'm if I was just out here acting and just saying shit because you know just Feeding my bass whatever they want to hear right then that'll be a different story But I challenge I challenge my bass all the time Well, I think that's one of the reasons why you resonate because you are a genuine person like you're It's very obvious that the things you say you say them because you mean it and this is your perspective and this is your well-thought-out perspective on things and I think that that's There's a big difference between that and someone who just says shit because they think 0.98

01:23:11.000 that this is their brand, and this is their audience is going to respond to this, and this is probably going to get me more likes. 0.96

01:23:18.000 And that's a real problem with social media.

01:23:21.000 The thing is, it's frustrating.

01:23:23.000 Like I did a piece on Ahmaud Arbery, the Ahmaud Arbery case.

01:23:28.000 The shooting in Georgia.

01:23:30.000 I didn't see your piece on it.

01:23:32.000 I know the case.

01:23:34.000 So basically I did a complete legal analysis of it.

01:23:37.000 Which essentially what I did in that 20-minute video, lawyers get paid $500 to $1,000 an hour for.

01:23:43.000 Because so much time, it took me two days to put that video together.

01:23:46.000 Because I needed to make sure all my facts and elements were correct.

01:23:49.000 I basically had to go back to being in law school all over again.

01:23:52.000 And while that's happening, there are tons of other things happening too that I need to comment on as well.

01:23:58.000 But I rather err on the side of falling behind on being the first on the news to make sure or try to get it as right as possible.

01:24:06.000 And that requires a lot of time. 0.99

01:24:07.000 A lot of fucking time, man. 0.99

01:24:09.000 And then on top of that, I still got to review guns and do all the other stuff. 0.99

01:24:12.000 So it frustrates me.

01:24:15.000 But like my mom said, you made your bed and I lay in it.

01:24:17.000 I'm not complaining about it, but I just need some people to understand the perspective and where I'm coming from and why I'm not quick to talk about a lot of stuff.

01:24:25.000 Because sometimes I just need time to figure out what the hell is going on.

01:24:28.000 Because there are a lot of people, I get messages, who rely on my information to make their decision.

01:24:34.000 They don't just follow what I say.

01:24:35.000 They just use my information to make their decision.

01:24:37.000 So I want to give them the best piece of information.

01:24:39.000 It's like putting gas in your car. 0.53

01:24:40.000 I don't want to put shitty gas in the car.

01:24:42.000 I want the car to run functionally.

01:24:43.000 So I'm going to try to give it the best gas as possible.

01:24:45.000 And so that's what I try to do, especially when I talk about the gun issue.

01:24:49.000 Because right now there's so much misinformation on the gun issue.

01:24:53.000 And a lot of times people don't even know what they don't know.

01:24:56.000 For instance, when you had Alonzo Bowden on here, I could tell a lot of what he was saying was coming from a good place.

01:25:02.000 There were some things he just didn't know he knew or didn't know.

01:25:05.000 And so that's kind of where I put myself.

01:25:08.000 I said, okay, how do I tailor and craft videos in such a way that somebody who isn't necessarily a gun person can understand it?

01:25:15.000 What Alonzo Bowden said, what bothered you?

01:25:19.000 Some of the misinformation with respect to background checks.

01:25:23.000 The background check aspect of it, where he kind of talked about it from the standpoint of the waiting period, the questionnaire that you filled out in the beginning, before you submit yourself for the background check, that that was the background check.

01:25:34.000 And it wasn't.

01:25:36.000 Because a lot of people think that.

01:25:37.000 A lot of people think that, oh, you just go there, fill out a yes or no questionnaire about whether or not you can own a gun, and then you get a gun.

01:25:46.000 And that's not the case.

01:25:48.000 And so I corrected that.

01:25:49.000 And then also what I did, I just critiqued his position on a couple of things.

01:25:53.000 Like, for instance, high-capacity magazines.

01:25:55.000 Because he says, he's like, you don't need 50 rounds in a clip, so to speak.

01:25:59.000 Well, it's actually a magazine, but that's neither here nor there.

01:26:02.000 But I disagree with that.

01:26:04.000 Now, in that regard, he's not wrong.

01:26:07.000 That's his opinion.

01:26:08.000 My opinion is, I think I do need a magazine that has 50 rounds.

01:26:12.000 And then I went on to explain why.

01:26:14.000 What did you say? 0.99

01:26:15.000 You want to kill 50 people? 1.00

01:26:16.000 No, man. 1.00

01:26:18.000 What did you say?

01:26:21.000 So why do we own firearms?

01:26:23.000 We own firearms.

01:26:24.000 A lot of people are owning firearms for self-defense.

01:26:26.000 And as a regular person, I'm not a criminal.

01:26:29.000 I just go about my day.

01:26:31.000 I don't want to be...

01:26:32.000 I'm already coming on the back end.

01:26:36.000 I'm already at a disadvantage.

01:26:37.000 Because a criminal who's going out to commit a crime knows he's going to commit a crime.

01:26:41.000 And what can you do when you know you're about to do something?

01:26:43.000 You prepare.

01:26:45.000 And since he's a criminal, he doesn't have to deal with all of the restraints that come with what?

01:26:49.000 Laws.

01:26:50.000 So if there's a law that says you can't have more than 10 rounds, like here in California, right?

01:26:55.000 I can't have a magazine that has more than 10 rounds.

01:26:58.000 If I'm a criminal and I know I'm going to commit a crime, do I really give a damn about a law that says I can't carry 10 rounds in my magazine?

01:27:04.000 I don't.

01:27:05.000 However, as a citizen, when I'm going about my life, carrying a gun on me is hard enough.

01:27:11.000 Right?

01:27:12.000 Because there's whole dialogues about what size gun you can have, how many rounds you want to have, what bullet caliber, things of that nature.

01:27:19.000 I don't know what I'm going to face.

01:27:21.000 I could face one guy.

01:27:23.000 I can face one guy who's high as hell.

01:27:25.000 I can face two, three, four, five guys.

01:27:28.000 I don't know.

01:27:29.000 So why artificially limit the number of bullets I can have in my gun when I don't know what I might be facing to protect my life from it?

01:27:38.000 Well, it's a weird thing, too.

01:27:39.000 It's like, I don't know if you're preserving any life by limiting the size of a magazine.

01:27:46.000 You're not.

01:27:46.000 I don't understand it.

01:27:48.000 Well, I think...

01:27:49.000 It's hard to mean to cut you off.

01:27:50.000 No, go ahead.

01:27:51.000 What the argument is, is they're looking at it from a mass shooter perspective.

01:27:55.000 Right.

01:27:55.000 They're saying, if you limit the amount of bullets that the mass shooter can have, that means more...

01:28:00.000 Yeah.

01:28:01.000 But again, he's going out to commit mass murder.

01:28:04.000 Do you think he cares about breaking the law that says he can only have 10 rounds in his magazine?

01:28:08.000 I think their idea is that it makes it harder for him to get those clips because he can't get them at the local gun store.

01:28:14.000 There are more of those out there than guns.

01:28:15.000 And we have over 300 million guns in this country.

01:28:17.000 Right.

01:28:17.000 They're going to have them.

01:28:19.000 But, you know, with a lot of these mass shooters, here's the other problem.

01:28:22.000 They're actually getting the guns illegally.

01:28:24.000 They're getting them from someone.

01:28:26.000 They're stealing them from someone's gun safe or from someone's house.

01:28:29.000 That's what a lot of it is coming from anyway.

01:28:31.000 I think a lot of the kind of project, not so much the politicians, I think the politicians are by and large very disingenuous, but a lot of people who support these ideas, who are just regular people, I think it's their way of trying to figure out some way of control.

01:28:44.000 Because mass shootings terrifies because they're so random.

01:28:47.000 They're like tornadoes.

01:28:48.000 See, hurricanes, you can kind of prepare for a hurricane.

01:28:51.000 You kind of have an idea of where the path is coming, where it's going. 1.00

01:28:54.000 Tornadoes, they just touch down and destroy shit. 0.99

01:28:56.000 And you don't know when it's coming. 1.00

01:28:58.000 Same thing with mass shootings.

01:28:59.000 Mass shootings are terrifying because they just kind of happen out of nowhere.

01:29:03.000 It's like, whoa, okay, what can we do?

01:29:05.000 Because you feel helpless.

01:29:07.000 You really feel helpless.

01:29:08.000 And even though they account for almost a statistical zero of gun violence in this country, they still terrify us because we don't know when or where it's going to happen.

01:29:17.000 See, the other gun violence stuff doesn't really terrify us as much because we know where it happens.

01:29:20.000 It happens in inner cities.

01:29:22.000 Don't go to any cities.

01:29:25.000 But mass shootings terrifies from that standpoint because we don't know when it's going to come.

01:29:29.000 So we think, okay, well, if we limit this and we restrict this, then it'll minimize it even more.

01:29:35.000 And it's like, no, it's not going to happen.

01:29:38.000 We have to deal with the reality.

01:29:39.000 And the reality terrifies me just as much as anyone else.

01:29:41.000 But what are you going to do? 0.54

01:29:43.000 You're going to lay down and die? 0.53

01:29:45.000 No, you fight.

01:29:46.000 And that's it.

01:29:47.000 And I remember when I was on Bill Maher and we talked about arming teachers, right?

01:29:51.000 The idea of arming teachers.

01:29:52.000 And he was like, I was like, well, if a teacher is willing to sacrifice, we have teachers that have sacrificed their lives for their students during school shootings.

01:30:00.000 So I'm like, if a teacher is willing to sacrifice their life for their kids, why not put a gun in their hand to give them the power to fight for their life?

01:30:07.000 And he goes, because they're teachers.

01:30:10.000 He's like, they're there to teach.

01:30:12.000 And I'm like, Well, they're already dying for the students. 0.80

01:30:16.000 Well, the idea that it's mutually exclusive seems kind of silly.

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:20.000 Like, there's a lot of really intelligent people that can teach and also know how to shoot a gun.

01:30:25.000 Exactly.

01:30:25.000 And I think the misconception, too, was I was...

01:30:28.000 Like, a lot of people thought I was saying we need to mandate that teachers own firearms.

01:30:33.000 That's not what I was saying.

01:30:34.000 What I was saying was...

01:30:35.000 If there's a teacher who wants to go through the process of being able to carry a firearm in school, why not let them do that?

01:30:43.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:30:44.000 When he said, because they're teachers, did everybody clap?

01:30:46.000 Oh my god, yes, it was thunderous.

01:30:48.000 Yes!

01:30:50.000 Yes, you got him!

01:30:52.000 That's the problem with doing a show in front of an audience, man. 1.00

01:30:54.000 You do shit for class. 1.00

01:30:56.000 Because they're teachers! 1.00

01:30:59.000 Now, in all fairness, during the conversation, he poked and he prodded.

01:31:03.000 And I think he gave me more of a fair shot than anybody else, generally speaking.

01:31:07.000 Yeah, he's an intelligent guy.

01:31:08.000 Yeah, he is.

01:31:09.000 Now, when I went to the roundtable discussion, that was a different story.

01:31:13.000 And part of it was I thought I could approach it Rationally.

01:31:18.000 Yeah.

01:31:19.000 And I couldn't because all the person that I was dealing with was doing was appealing to emotion.

01:31:23.000 And so...

01:31:24.000 And what were they saying?

01:31:25.000 Basically, I would talk about the idea of background checks, for instance.

01:31:28.000 And I was like, well, how are you going to enforce them?

01:31:31.000 And they were like...

01:31:32.000 And she would just kind of stutter and stammer.

01:31:34.000 But then Bill Maher posted a picture of a guy in California who had a bunch of guns that were seized.

01:31:41.000 And she was like, oh my God, all those guns. 1.00

01:31:43.000 Who needs all those guns? 0.99

01:31:44.000 I'm like...

01:31:45.000 I'm like, look, I get it.

01:31:46.000 You attribute a very nefarious nature to firearms in general.

01:31:49.000 I don't.

01:31:50.000 I have a lot of guns.

01:31:52.000 I don't go around killing people.

01:31:53.000 And I only have two hands.

01:31:55.000 That guy only has two hands.

01:31:56.000 The number of guns he has is irrelevant. 0.88

01:31:58.000 And she's like, but they can use those guns to give other people to kill as many people. 1.00

01:32:02.000 It's just hysteria.

01:32:04.000 And I'm just like, oh, God.

01:32:07.000 That's not how this works.

01:32:08.000 Well, it's also a long conversation, and this is my problem with any of those shows, is that you've got like three minutes to discuss something that should be three hours.

01:32:17.000 And at the end of three hours, you're probably still...

01:32:20.000 You've still got to walk away with a lot of questions and maybe not even...

01:32:23.000 Really coming up with any solution.

01:32:26.000 Most likely.

01:32:27.000 Most likely not coming up with any solution.

01:32:30.000 It seems like it's a very particularly human problem.

01:32:33.000 You know, the problem of gun ownership in this country. 0.68

01:32:35.000 You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. 0.78

01:32:38.000 You know, it's...

01:32:40.000 And I think, again, one of the reasons why I wanted to bring you on right after this COVID thing when I contacted you, because I think that people are now understanding that, hey, this police thing that you were counting on to protect you,

01:32:56.000 Well, there's a lot of people that are trying to defund them now.

01:32:59.000 You're not going to get them in certain places because they're in conflict with the state and the government, like in Atlanta, or in New York, where they're quitting left and right, and in California, they're trying to get the sheriff of Santa Monica to step down.

01:33:14.000 I mean, you've got a lot of problems with the police.

01:33:16.000 It's not as simple as, call the police, they'll be there for you.

01:33:19.000 Even when it was that simple, it still was in effect.

01:33:23.000 It's an illusion, right?

01:33:24.000 And this is what you and I, and I know we talked about this before, that this idea that you shouldn't be self-reliant, that you should be dependent upon the government.

01:33:36.000 This is what the Second Amendment was written for.

01:33:40.000 People say it was designed like a well-armed militia.

01:33:43.000 It was designed in case, you know, someone was coming and attacking you.

01:33:46.000 Like, no, it could be the government themselves.

01:33:48.000 The government is filled with people.

01:33:50.000 Yes, they're humans.

01:33:52.000 And when have you ever seen a time where the government has said, no, we want less power?

01:33:57.000 Never.

01:33:57.000 And once they get power, they never give it back.

01:33:59.000 It doesn't come back.

01:33:59.000 And that's what I keep trying to tell people.

01:34:01.000 Like, look, I get you want to try things.

01:34:03.000 They just want to throw things on the wall and hope it sticks.

01:34:05.000 Let's ban these guns. 1.00

01:34:07.000 Let's limit this capacity. 0.97

01:34:08.000 Let's do this.

01:34:08.000 Like, you do that.

01:34:09.000 You don't get it back.

01:34:10.000 So even if it doesn't work, you think the government's going to say, well, better yet, this whole idea that they're going to have a gun buyback program, the voluntary buyback.

01:34:21.000 You think they're going to give you your guns back if it doesn't work?

01:34:24.000 If the crime rate still stays the same, which it has in other places that have done the same thing...

01:34:28.000 But Australia!

01:34:29.000 What they don't talk about about Australia is when they did it, crime spiked.

01:34:35.000 Did it?

01:34:36.000 Yeah.

01:34:36.000 Because you've got to think about it.

01:34:37.000 The whole notion or idea that criminals are criminals of opportunity.

01:34:41.000 Right.

01:34:41.000 If no one has a gun.

01:34:42.000 No one has a gun.

01:34:44.000 Think about it.

01:34:44.000 It's just like what's going on in Chaz now or what's going on in Atlanta.

01:34:47.000 If there are no cops around, criminals are going to show up and they're going to take advantage of the chaos.

01:34:52.000 Yes.

01:34:52.000 Period.

01:34:53.000 And you're not going to tell me that, no, the cops will always be there.

01:34:57.000 Look what happened in Canada.

01:34:58.000 The guy stole a gun from a cop, killed the cop, and went on a rampage killing spree for almost 12, 13 hours.

01:35:08.000 He shut down an entire city by himself.

01:35:11.000 That one is a weird one, and I was reading something about it last night.

01:35:14.000 See if you can find this, that he withdrew a huge amount of money, like more than $400... 1.00

01:35:22.000 Shit! 1.00

01:35:23.000 Are you serious? 1.00

01:35:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:35:24.000 He withdrew more than $400,000 from a bank account.

01:35:28.000 How was he even able to do that?

01:35:30.000 Exactly.

01:35:31.000 And there's some concern that this might have been some sort of intelligence operation.

01:35:39.000 That there's something more to this story.

01:35:41.000 Because they were talking about the way he got that money that it very well could have been that he was involved in something on a totally different level.

01:35:51.000 The Nova Scotia shooter case has hallmarks of an undercover operation.

01:35:55.000 Police say the killer's withdrawal $475,000 was highly irregular and how the RCMP agent would get money.

01:36:03.000 How NRCMP. I don't know what that...

01:36:05.000 Royal Canadian Mounted Police, I think that is.

01:36:08.000 Withdrawal $475,000 in cash by the man who killed 22 Nova Scotians in April matches the method.

01:36:14.000 That is Royal Canadian Mounted Police, right?

01:36:17.000 Use this to send money to confidential informants and agents, sources say.

01:36:22.000 Gabrielle Wattman, who is responsible for the largest mass killing in Canadian history, withdrew the money from a Brinks deposit in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, March 30th, stashing a carryall filled with $100 bills in the trunk of his car.

01:36:36.000 Wow.

01:36:37.000 My thing is, it's like this.

01:36:38.000 For an operation that complex, do you think they'd be that sloppy?

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:43.000 Yeah, they're filled with people.

01:36:47.000 And they're Canadians, so they're actually nice.

01:36:49.000 Sources in both banking and the RCMP say the transaction is consistent with how the RCMP funnels money to its confidential informants and agents and is not an option available to private banking customers.

01:37:02.000 The RCMP has repeatedly said that it has no, in quotes, special relationship with Wartman, which means the regular relationship.

01:37:10.000 Court documents show that Wartman owned a New Brunswick registered company called Berkshire Broman, the legal owner of two of his vehicles, including one of the police replica cars. 0.95

01:37:20.000 Oh, he was a crazy person.

01:37:21.000 He had a police replica car? 0.94

01:37:23.000 Yeah, he had a lot of them.

01:37:24.000 Whatever the purpose of the company, there's no public evidence that could have been able to move large quantities of cash.

01:37:29.000 Wartman also ran his own, what is a denturist business?

01:37:33.000 You make fake teeth.

01:37:34.000 Is that what it is?

01:37:35.000 Yeah.

01:37:35.000 Denturist?

01:37:36.000 Yeah, it's basically a dentist.

01:37:37.000 Oh, wow.

01:37:38.000 Okay, so he had a fake teeth business?

01:37:40.000 Yeah.

01:37:40.000 And there's no reason to believe that it also would require him to handle large amounts of cash.

01:37:47.000 If Wartman is or was an RCMP informant or agent, it would explain while the force appeared not to take action on complaints about his illegal guns and his assault on his common law wife.

01:38:01.000 Whoa. 0.99

01:38:04.000 So he might have been a fucking informant. 1.00

01:38:06.000 So he might have been working for the government. 1.00

01:38:10.000 That makes sense.

01:38:12.000 I'm not going to say it doesn't make sense. 0.99

01:38:14.000 Listen, there's a lot of sick fucks in all lines of business, including dentists. 1.00

01:38:18.000 How many dentists have been accused of feeling up ladies after they put them under, right? 1.00

01:38:23.000 I've...

01:38:23.000 Yeah.

01:38:24.000 I've heard, yeah. 1.00

01:38:24.000 There's some sick fucks that are in all lines of work, including informants. 1.00

01:38:29.000 Plus, informants, like, you're a fucking rat. 1.00

01:38:31.000 So he's a rat that went bad. 1.00

01:38:33.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:38:35.000 Could be.

01:38:35.000 So there's a complex backstory of that guy.

01:38:39.000 Very much so.

01:38:40.000 Yeah.

01:38:41.000 Nonetheless, it still happened.

01:38:43.000 Yeah.

01:38:45.000 But then again, it's funny because immediately after that, unilaterally, Trudeau basically said, boop, no more guns.

01:38:52.000 At least no more assault rifles.

01:38:55.000 Which drive gun people crazy.

01:38:57.000 Yes, because...

01:38:58.000 What does that mean?

01:38:59.000 Alright, so assault rifle, and assault rifle is, to put it simply, And I'm trying to explain this in plain language for people who don't know any different.

01:39:06.000 Most people think when they hear assault rifle, they think a machine gun, which is fully automatic or semi-automatic.

01:39:12.000 Not semi-automatic.

01:39:13.000 Fully automatic or burst.

01:39:16.000 Basically, it's like three rounds at a time each time you pull the trigger.

01:39:19.000 That's an assault rifle.

01:39:23.000 AR-15s are not assault rifles.

01:39:25.000 Right.

01:39:25.000 Single shot.

01:39:26.000 Yeah.

01:39:26.000 Single shot gun.

01:39:27.000 You pull the trigger once, you get one bullet.

01:39:29.000 It's kind of synonymous.

01:39:30.000 It's like comparing a Rolls Royce to a Chrysler 300. Yeah, why do they call it an assault rifle then?

01:39:37.000 Because it looks badass?

01:39:38.000 Well, why does who call an assault rifle?

01:39:40.000 Why do people call an AR an assault rifle?

01:39:42.000 Well, because that's language used by the anti-gunners who are pushing an agenda.

01:39:46.000 So what they want to do is they want to closely tie the idea of a machine gun that people largely see being used in movies to what's being sold on the streets.

01:39:55.000 So the distinction would be automatic versus semi-automatic.

01:39:58.000 And the difference between an AR is you don't have to cock it like a bolt-action rifle every time you fire a shot.

01:40:04.000 Yes.

01:40:06.000 And that's one of the arguments in the hunting world, is that you don't need an AR, and it wouldn't be effective.

01:40:13.000 And I've actually heard people say that.

01:40:14.000 I'm like, no, as a hunter, it would be more effective, because oftentimes you need a second shot.

01:40:19.000 You need to get that shot up fast.

01:40:20.000 But you can get that second shot instantly. 0.74

01:40:22.000 Bang, bang. 0.99

01:40:25.000 Ironically, that's the same argument they'll use to why we need to ban them.

01:40:28.000 Because it allows a shooter to shoot and it allows a shooter to shoot faster than normal.

01:40:32.000 And then I argue that's why we need them for self-defense.

01:40:34.000 Yeah, again, it becomes one of those like really messy people problems.

01:40:38.000 Yeah, like it's a messy...

01:40:39.000 That's the common denominator behind all of it.

01:40:42.000 Yeah, it's the people.

01:40:43.000 But now they've even...

01:40:44.000 What they'll do is they'll try to invalidate that argument.

01:40:46.000 It's not a gun problem, it's a people problem. 1.00

01:40:49.000 And they'll try to undermine it by acting like it's just a stupid trope. 1.00

01:40:52.000 But it's the truth. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Well, I made a tweet a long time ago that said this country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.

01:40:59.000 I agree with you.

01:41:00.000 It's really what it is.

01:41:01.000 I absolutely agree with you.

01:41:03.000 That's really what it is.

01:41:03.000 And this is one thing that never gets discussed.

01:41:07.000 Whenever one of these people does something really fucked up, they don't look at the amount of medication these people are on. 0.94

01:41:12.000 No, it's funny. 0.99

01:41:12.000 They don't. 0.99

01:41:13.000 They really don't.

01:41:14.000 And they're almost all on medication.

01:41:15.000 Almost all.

01:41:16.000 There's a common denominator.

01:41:18.000 Guns and medication.

01:41:20.000 And one gets looked at very closely and the other gets blatantly ignored.

01:41:24.000 Why do you think that is?

01:41:25.000 Because the pharmaceutical industry has a shitload of money, and there's a lot of these politicians that are in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry.

01:41:32.000 They have a firm grip on the narrative.

01:41:36.000 So the gun is a perfect scapegoat.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, and they also don't want all the other people that are on these psychotropic medications to feel bad that they're on them, that they could be lumped in with these same people.

01:41:46.000 Like, imagine if we just started Like if it's SSRIs or antidepressants or anti-anxiety medication, imagine if that becomes the narrative in the news. 0.78

01:41:56.000 Like that people on SSRIs are fucking dangerous because all these school shooters are on SSRIs. 0.96

01:42:01.000 That would almost be a better argument than the NRA. Because if you look at the NRA and you look at NRA members and the amount of NRA members that have Actually done these horrible mass shootings. 0.99

01:42:18.000 It's like none.

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:21.000 It's crazy that the medication is a better correlation than the NRA. Saying that, people's fucking heads are gonna explode! 1.00

01:42:31.000 Rogan, you shill! 1.00

01:42:33.000 You government shill!

01:42:35.000 They have information on you!

01:42:36.000 No, I'm just saying the facts.

01:42:39.000 Responsible gun owners are not the people that are doing these things.

01:42:42.000 It's crazy people.

01:42:43.000 And unfortunately, crazy people are oftentimes on medication.

01:42:46.000 Now, that's like a correlation causation argument as well.

01:42:49.000 I'm not saying that the medication is forcing these people into doing that.

01:42:53.000 But I am saying that I've known people that have taken SSRIs and have taken antidepressants and a lot of different psychotropic medicines.

01:43:01.000 And one of the things that they've said is that it makes them not care about things.

01:43:04.000 It's real weird.

01:43:05.000 I've heard that.

01:43:06.000 Stuff can happen.

01:43:07.000 It disassociates them from emotions, and things don't bother them.

01:43:14.000 I'm like, that's scary to me.

01:43:16.000 That's scary to me.

01:43:17.000 Because I am the total opposite.

01:43:20.000 I feel everything.

01:43:22.000 I mean, I really do.

01:43:23.000 I'm a very sensitive person.

01:43:24.000 I know how to handle it, but I'm very sensitive.

01:43:27.000 And it could speak to the notion that when you hear people describe the account of interacting with a mass shooter, them having this kind of stoic, motionless face.

01:43:35.000 Yeah, they've got shark eyes.

01:43:38.000 They're all on medication, man.

01:43:40.000 I mean, it's really like the numbers are staggering.

01:43:43.000 And I'm not saying medication causes people to do that.

01:43:46.000 But I mean, it's something that needs to be talked about and explored.

01:43:50.000 Now, I sit on the board of Walk the Talk America.

01:43:53.000 Which is a mental health, a 2A mental health organization, whose goal basically is to address the correlation, if any, between firearm ownership and mental health.

01:44:06.000 And is this something that you got involved because of the attacks on gun ownership and the recognition that there is some sort of correlation?

01:44:13.000 So the catalyst for it was to say, because a lot of gun owners will say, well, it's a mental health issue.

01:44:18.000 And we'll always say that.

01:44:19.000 As you and I agree, we do believe that is the case.

01:44:22.000 So what Walk to Talk America does is it says, okay, so let's walk the talk.

01:44:26.000 Let's try to figure out how to fix or deal with the mental health issue component.

01:44:30.000 If we're going to say that's what it is and it's not the gun and we do believe that, so let's start having that conversation and doing what needs to do.

01:44:37.000 So what the organization does is it crosses the aisle with people in the mental health space and brings them over into the gun side and vice versa.

01:44:45.000 And so we can have those conversations to figure out a way how we can kind of balance the firearm ownership with mental health.

01:44:52.000 Because that conversation is not being had.

01:44:54.000 And so I think if we're going to talk about it and say it is a mental health issue, okay, so let's start this deep-sea dive into the mental health issue and see if we can come up with a solution that speaks to why we have so many people that have these mental health issues.

01:45:07.000 And then how do we exist in a world where this many people have mental health issues in a world also where we have this many guns.

01:45:14.000 And so that we can better solve whatever problems we think we have instead of just throwing around, well, we need to ban this. 0.98

01:45:21.000 We need to come up with this stupid law, like, instead of doing that. 0.99

01:45:24.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:45:24.000 I couldn't agree more. 1.00

01:45:25.000 I don't think it's that simple.

01:45:26.000 Yeah.

01:45:27.000 I don't think it's as simple as banning things because I think there's a lot of people that are responsible gun users and gun owners, and I don't think you should do anything to take away their rights.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:45:36.000 I really don't.

01:45:37.000 And I get in arguments with people about that, particularly my liberal friends.

01:45:41.000 Yeah.

01:45:42.000 They're like, how can you call yourself a liberal when you have that perspective?

01:45:45.000 I'm like, because it's rational.

01:45:47.000 I don't understand why the gun debate is even politicized.

01:45:51.000 It shouldn't be political.

01:45:52.000 The fact that there's a division between...

01:45:55.000 The fact that you can't be a liberal and a pro-gun is crazy to me.

01:45:59.000 The same way that I can't be...

01:46:01.000 The idea of being conservative and pro-gun is seen as a crazy thing.

01:46:04.000 That doesn't make any sense to me either.

01:46:05.000 I think the gun should live in a space that...

01:46:09.000 It's outside of the idea of politics.

01:46:11.000 Within reason, of course, because there's always going to be everything.

01:46:13.000 Politics is kind of everything, right?

01:46:15.000 But I don't think it should be that divisively defined between being a liberal or conservative.

01:46:23.000 It's just so weird to me.

01:46:25.000 Well, it's divisive because we're divisive about everything.

01:46:27.000 It's true.

01:46:28.000 There's certain topics like, here's a good one, global warming.

01:46:33.000 I guarantee you, man, if you had across the board how much of climate change is natural versus how much of it is man-made, and just a simple question and you threw that out there, I guarantee if you looked at the numbers and you could get a real accurate assessment of how many conservatives and how many liberals responded.

01:46:53.000 And I think that if you said, is it a hoax, when you went to the yes side, yes, it's a hoax, it's overwhelmingly conservative people who think it's a hoax, or that it's not an issue.

01:47:03.000 I think the reason for that, to a degree, is because you have so many people, you have very...

01:47:09.000 Very out-front figureheads who've tried to utilize global climate change as a way to kind of undermine the economic structure in this country.

01:47:18.000 In what way?

01:47:19.000 Like, you know, the green power and all this stuff like that.

01:47:21.000 Like, look at the Green Deal. 0.69

01:47:23.000 To me, that's just economics version.

01:47:25.000 It's just trying to entirely change the economic structure of our country to be more beneficial.

01:47:30.000 Well, can you define the New Green Deal for people who don't know what it means, like what they're trying to do?

01:47:34.000 Basically, they're trying to replace all of our kind of conservative means of production with respect to energy and replace it with green energy.

01:47:43.000 And I don't think it's completely sustainable.

01:47:45.000 And it's not even like it's progressive.

01:47:47.000 It's a complete turnaround, 180. And I just think that's irresponsible.

01:47:51.000 Now, here's the thing about that.

01:47:54.000 From my standpoint, I consider myself just right of center.

01:47:58.000 As far as ideology.

01:47:59.000 I have not done enough research on climate change to have a definitive opinion about it.

01:48:08.000 So what I'm telling you is what I'm seeing other people say.

01:48:12.000 And that's why I think there are a lot of people on the conservative aspect of it that are like it's a hoax because they see it as basic economic conversion.

01:48:20.000 Now, as far as climate change in and of itself, I don't know.

01:48:24.000 I'm probably the last person to talk to about that because I like my cars to destroy the environment.

01:48:30.000 Have you ever driven an electric car?

01:48:31.000 Yeah.

01:48:32.000 You driven a Tesla?

01:48:33.000 Yeah.

01:48:34.000 What do you say?

01:48:34.000 Like you're not impressed?

01:48:36.000 I don't want to be impressed.

01:48:38.000 You don't want to be impressed?

01:48:39.000 No.

01:48:39.000 What do you mean?

01:48:40.000 Because I'm like, I'm...

01:48:41.000 You want to hear the rumble?

01:48:42.000 Yes, I'm sincere.

01:48:44.000 I love it.

01:48:45.000 I understand.

01:48:46.000 Now, here's the thing.

01:48:48.000 The Tesla truck is kind of calling me.

01:48:51.000 It's calling me.

01:48:52.000 Kind of.

01:48:53.000 Yeah.

01:48:54.000 I mean, my favorite SUV or truck, I call it a truck, is a G-Wagon.

01:49:00.000 And that is probably the biggest pollutant on the planet with respect to SUVs.

01:49:04.000 They're pretty dope.

01:49:05.000 I love them.

01:49:06.000 Absolutely love them.

01:49:07.000 They're so heavy, too.

01:49:08.000 They are, man.

01:49:09.000 I love them.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, they're dope.

01:49:10.000 The door, you have to ka-chunk. 1.00

01:49:12.000 It's like a bank vault.

01:49:13.000 Yeah.

01:49:14.000 And see, I kind of like that old, same thing with the Defender.

01:49:17.000 I get it.

01:49:17.000 Like, I love it.

01:49:18.000 Well, Defender's the opposite.

01:49:19.000 It's aluminum.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, that is true.

01:49:21.000 That is actually true. 1.00

01:49:22.000 They're made out of a fucking beer can. 0.99

01:49:23.000 Yeah, but so is the suspension. 1.00

01:49:25.000 But they look dope.

01:49:26.000 Yeah, they do.

01:49:26.000 The thing is, they look dope, whereas the Mercedes, the G-Wagon, is actually dope.

01:49:32.000 It's a difference.

01:49:33.000 Explain.

01:49:34.000 It's a different animal.

01:49:35.000 Ah, okay.

01:49:35.000 I see what you're saying.

01:49:37.000 That motherfucker, first of all, is super modern. 0.99

01:49:39.000 Like, especially the new ones. 0.99

01:49:41.000 They have an independent front suspension, so it handles really well. 0.98

01:49:43.000 By the way, none of these fucking suburban housewives are ever taking those goddamn things off-roading, so I don't even know why it ever had two live axles, right? 1.00

01:49:51.000 It's like, most of what it is, is like, moms are picking up their kids in these fucking things. 0.99

01:49:55.000 Rich people. 0.99

01:49:56.000 But here's the funny thing about that, because I had a 63. I had a 2013 63. And all the time, people were like, God, that's my dream car!

01:50:05.000 That's my dream!

01:50:05.000 And then they'd ride in it.

01:50:06.000 I'm like, oh.

01:50:07.000 It's bumpy.

01:50:08.000 It's terrible.

01:50:09.000 But the new ones aren't.

01:50:10.000 Yeah, no, the new ones are amazing.

01:50:11.000 The new ones handle insane, and they're so fast for what it is.

01:50:14.000 Yeah, no, I get it, dude.

01:50:16.000 It's dope. 0.55

01:50:16.000 But the Tesla, to me, is the future. 0.55

01:50:20.000 When I drive one of those things, and here's the thing, too. 0.75

01:50:22.000 When COVID, the lockdown happened in Los Angeles, all of a sudden our air quality was fucking amazing.

01:50:28.000 You could see the mountains. 0.93

01:50:30.000 It was crazy.

01:50:31.000 And I was like, oh my god, what are we doing ourselves?

01:50:33.000 What are we doing to ourselves?

01:50:34.000 If everybody had electric cars, that would be the case all day long, every day.

01:50:38.000 Yeah, but then some people make the argument that what you need, like the batteries and so forth and so on, cause as much destruction as...

01:50:43.000 That's a good argument.

01:50:44.000 It's also conflict minerals.

01:50:46.000 Getting these from these poor countries where they're digging them out of Afghanistan and, you know... 1.00

01:50:52.000 I don't know, man.

01:50:54.000 I have a hard time having this conversation because I'm so biased, and I'm being selfish. 0.99

01:50:59.000 Listen, you go out in my garage, you've seen the shit I have, man. 0.99

01:51:02.000 I've got a lot of muscle cars, man. 0.99

01:51:04.000 I love those things.

01:51:05.000 But I also love my Tesla, and I drive it all the time.

01:51:08.000 I love it, man.

01:51:09.000 I love that it's silent. 1.00

01:51:10.000 I love that it's stupid fast. 0.99

01:51:12.000 I love that it feels like it's from the future. 1.00

01:51:14.000 It makes other cars feel dumb, man. 0.99

01:51:16.000 It does. 0.99

01:51:17.000 It's just so advanced.

01:51:19.000 And you're right.

01:51:20.000 And the funny thing is, all the reasons why I love the new G-Wagon are the same reasons that you love the Tesla.

01:51:27.000 Notwithstanding the electric engine.

01:51:29.000 So, for me, it's just me not wanting to...

01:51:32.000 I romanticize the idea of car ownership so much, and driving, and the feel, and all of that stuff.

01:51:39.000 You do lose that with some of the electric cars.

01:51:41.000 So that's why I'm kind of hard-pressed to kind of completely jump on the electric car...

01:51:47.000 Car bandwagon.

01:51:48.000 Here's a crazy thing.

01:51:49.000 Did we look this up?

01:51:50.000 I think we did.

01:51:51.000 Because it was something that Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear, that when the exhaust that comes out of a 911 turbo is actually cleaner than the air in a polluted area.

01:52:04.000 I think I remember him saying that.

01:52:05.000 I do remember him saying that.

01:52:06.000 You drive in downtown LA in a 911 turbo, the exhaust is actually cleaner than the air that's getting sucked into the engine.

01:52:14.000 So it is possible to make a low-emissions combustion vehicle.

01:52:19.000 No, they got the Taycan from Porsche.

01:52:21.000 Well, that's electric.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, it is.

01:52:22.000 But I mean, there was...

01:52:24.000 Because in Dallas, they did the reveal, and I was there.

01:52:27.000 That thing's dope. 1.00

01:52:28.000 Oh, man.

01:52:29.000 I'm not going to lie.

01:52:30.000 I was like, okay, so now this is where we get the marriage between the practical efficiency of electric cars and then the sensorial effect of having the old world cars.

01:52:40.000 Now it's starting to get that marriage and that balance right.

01:52:44.000 You know it makes noise?

01:52:46.000 Like it accelerates?

01:52:47.000 Like you can press a button and it makes Jetsons noises?

01:52:50.000 So like as you hit the gas...

01:52:53.000 See, I can't get down with that.

01:52:55.000 You can't get down with that?

01:52:57.000 I'd rather you mimic the sound of an old muscle car.

01:52:59.000 Oh, I can't get down with that.

01:53:01.000 I hate when M3s were doing that, or piping in fake exhaust music. 0.77

01:53:06.000 That's what they did in my M6. Fuck off. 1.00

01:53:07.000 You know what? 1.00

01:53:08.000 You're right. 1.00

01:53:09.000 Shut that shit off. 1.00

01:53:10.000 Yeah, it was kind of weird. 1.00

01:53:11.000 Yeah, well, that's the problem with turbos.

01:53:12.000 They sound whack.

01:53:13.000 Yeah, but you can get so much power out of them.

01:53:15.000 Yes, but the AMGs are also turbos.

01:53:18.000 Like, AMG G-wagons are turbos. 0.99

01:53:20.000 They sound fucking nasty. 0.99

01:53:22.000 Yeah, they do. 1.00

01:53:23.000 They figured out how to do it right with the exhaust.

01:53:24.000 Porsche has not figured that out with their exhaust.

01:53:27.000 No, they haven't.

01:53:27.000 But man, they figured out so many other things.

01:53:29.000 They figured out so much.

01:53:30.000 Look, if you drive one of their naturally aspirated engines, the noise is so glorious that you don't ever want to go back to...

01:53:39.000 The GT3, yes.

01:53:41.000 All the GT cars, I guess those are generally there.

01:53:44.000 The GT3 RS and the GT3s, yeah.

01:53:45.000 They make a beautiful sound, yeah.

01:53:48.000 The GT2 RS sounds pretty fucking good, too.

01:53:51.000 Porsche states that under normal driving conditions, this car exceeds 31 miles per gallon and does indeed only produce a maximum carbon output of 300 units.

01:54:01.000 So in retrospect, Jeremy Clarkson's conclusion upon the heavily polluted cities is plausibly correct and therefore quite amazing. 0.90

01:54:08.000 Holy crap. 0.99

01:54:09.000 Yeah, cuz you know LA's dirty as fuck under normal conditions. 1.00

01:54:14.000 Pretty amazing. 0.99

01:54:15.000 Thank you, Jamie.

01:54:15.000 Who's better than Jamie?

01:54:16.000 LA's so heartbreaking.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, it's hard.

01:54:19.000 How about now?

01:54:19.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:54:20.000 Did you go down through Hollywood and see all the boarded windows and shit? 0.99

01:54:23.000 I'm staying in Hollywood. 0.96

01:54:26.000 Tell me what it's like for someone who hasn't been here since the...

01:54:29.000 What's that thing?

01:54:31.000 Remember The Walking Dead?

01:54:33.000 Yeah.

01:54:34.000 Kind of close to that.

01:54:35.000 Yeah.

01:54:35.000 It's Hollywood.

01:54:37.000 I mean, Hollywood's already dirty anyway. 0.90

01:54:38.000 Right.

01:54:39.000 And then you add the board.

01:54:40.000 Everything's boarded up.

01:54:41.000 It's kind of like now it's starting to seem a little more lively.

01:54:44.000 Things open back up a little bit.

01:54:46.000 So it's not as bad, but it's bad enough to go like, oh, man, this is bad.

01:54:51.000 Well, there's a friend of mine who is buddies with this photographer, and this photographer is like, he, whenever shit goes down, he goes out and gets photographs and videos, and he got this insane video of Hollywood the very night where everybody was smashing and burning everything. 0.60

01:55:09.000 It's so crazy. 0.75

01:55:10.000 It's so crazy, this video.

01:55:12.000 I mean, I don't want to share it because it's his personal video, but he's walking down the street, and he's panning, and it's just people smashing windows, and things are on fire, and people are running out of stores with packages, and it's all happening on the street in front of them.

01:55:26.000 The streets are covered with debris and dirt, and he's just panning back and forth with his camera.

01:55:32.000 I'm like, oh my god, this is Hollywood?

01:55:34.000 This is where I drive to go tell jokes?

01:55:37.000 Like, what is happening?

01:55:38.000 It's...

01:55:38.000 Man, dude, it's...

01:55:40.000 It's such a beautiful city.

01:55:42.000 Like, you can see the beauty through the grind.

01:55:45.000 Yeah.

01:55:45.000 And it's like...

01:55:47.000 I don't know how it bounces back either.

01:55:49.000 I don't know what percentage of the small businesses were already on the way out before the rioting and the looting. 0.89

01:55:57.000 Because the COVID fucked up so many businesses.

01:55:59.000 They were estimating that somewhere around 40% of small businesses were going to go under. 1.00

01:56:03.000 And then you light everything on fire and looting and all this crazy shit. 0.98

01:56:07.000 And LA was hard to live in and expensive enough to live in as is. 0.99

01:56:12.000 Well, the taxes are so crazy.

01:56:14.000 The California state tax is like 13.5%.

01:56:18.000 Texas?

01:56:18.000 No.

01:56:20.000 Ungats.

01:56:21.000 Yeah, zero.

01:56:22.000 Same as the amount of shooters that were in the NRA. Different.

01:56:26.000 Same.

01:56:27.000 We get crushed with property tax.

01:56:28.000 Yeah, but we get crushed with that too.

01:56:31.000 Yeah, you know, you're right.

01:56:32.000 Yeah, just not on specifically your house, but yeah.

01:56:34.000 Yeah.

01:56:35.000 It's like, look, there's beautiful parts of LA. There's a lot of fun to this place.

01:56:42.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:43.000 There's a lot of good things.

01:56:44.000 There's a lot of good people.

01:56:45.000 There's a lot of good people.

01:56:46.000 Because there's a lot of people.

01:56:47.000 But it's...

01:56:48.000 One of the problems with it is there's too many folks.

01:56:51.000 I think when you get to a size that's sort of unmanageable, whether it is, you know...

01:56:58.000 New York City or Los Angeles.

01:57:00.000 Whenever things go sideways, they go really, really sideways.

01:57:04.000 And fast.

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 Do you saw how fast it went from zero to 100 with COVID? Yeah.

01:57:10.000 And not only that, and that was a point that I made too with respect to firearm ownership.

01:57:14.000 People don't understand how fast society can collapse.

01:57:17.000 Yes.

01:57:18.000 Even if only temporarily.

01:57:19.000 Right.

01:57:20.000 It happens overnight.

01:57:22.000 Yeah.

01:57:22.000 That video came out just like that.

01:57:25.000 Mm-hmm.

01:57:26.000 Police station on fire.

01:57:28.000 And the whole city was burning. 0.88

01:57:30.000 But people tell me that I'm ridiculous for wanting to own a firearm. 1.00

01:57:34.000 Yeah, they're ridiculous, and they look ridiculous now. 0.96

01:57:38.000 I mean, again, I'll say it again, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on right after it hit. 0.92

01:57:42.000 When I contacted you, I was like, this is the time to really talk about this stuff because this is where people are more open to this idea.

01:57:50.000 We live in a messy world, and I know that there's a lot of good people that don't want guns.

01:57:56.000 I had a conversation with this comedian friend of mine when one of the mass shootings happened, and he was like, we just got to take away all the guns.

01:58:02.000 I was like, okay.

01:58:03.000 I don't know what to say, because you're so off base, I don't even know what to do with this conversation.

01:58:08.000 I know, and that's the problem.

01:58:10.000 So many people don't have the conversation emotionally, and therefore they start spouting out what essentially is juvenile solutions.

01:58:16.000 Same guy, years later, trying to buy a gun.

01:58:19.000 Stop it.

01:58:22.000 Of course.

01:58:22.000 Worried, scared, trying to buy a gun.

01:58:24.000 What do I do?

01:58:25.000 Trying to buy a gun.

01:58:26.000 I want to buy a gun.

01:58:27.000 In front of a reality.

01:58:28.000 What do I do?

01:58:29.000 I don't know, man.

01:58:31.000 I don't know what to tell you.

01:58:31.000 And see, but here's the messed up part about it, too.

01:58:34.000 Take California, for instance.

01:58:35.000 And you brought it up earlier in the conversation.

01:58:37.000 Now you have all these people who are panicking, wanting to buy a gun because they feel they need one soon and fast.

01:58:41.000 They can't get it because you have what?

01:58:43.000 10-day waiting period in California.

01:58:45.000 Right.

01:58:45.000 And these are laws that they voted for.

01:58:47.000 Right.

01:58:47.000 So they're just waiting.

01:58:48.000 Nine.

01:58:49.000 Eight.

01:58:49.000 Seven.

01:58:50.000 Every day.

01:58:51.000 Checking.

01:58:51.000 Looking out the window.

01:58:52.000 And we saw an entire city go from perfectly functional to on fire in a night.

01:58:58.000 Yeah.

01:59:01.000 So that's another reason why the whole notion of having waiting periods for me, I'm just like, nah, I can't get with it.

01:59:05.000 It's so crazy how everything went sideways.

01:59:09.000 I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the fact that I had a really dumb person tried to explain to me that they think that George Floyd was murdered so that the riots could happen. 0.76

01:59:19.000 I've heard that too. 0.99

01:59:20.000 Oh my god, that's the dumbest argument of all time. 1.00

01:59:22.000 Like, yeah, you got a fucking sociopath who's a known sociopath who just happened to have him arrest a guy that he's already had a personal beef with. 1.00

01:59:30.000 It's a dumb conversation. 1.00

01:59:32.000 But if it wasn't, god damn, it's like, it's perfect. 1.00

01:59:36.000 It's the perfect storm. 0.99

01:59:38.000 You have this Polemic, sort of polarizing president, right? 1.00

01:59:46.000 And then you have this disease that comes from another country, and he's calling it the Chinese virus, and you know, we're already in trade war talks with China.

01:59:55.000 So you go, wow, imagine if China, like, released this virus. 0.96

01:59:58.000 There's all these crazy, if you're one of those people, there's all these crazy conspiracies you can come up with. 0.97

02:00:03.000 Then the George Floyd murder, which is months into this horrible lockdown where everybody's losing their fucking money, nobody has any money. 0.97

02:00:09.000 It's going stir crazy, yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:00:10.000 Angry, man.

02:00:11.000 I was watching people driving.

02:00:12.000 They were driving so aggressive.

02:00:14.000 I could feel it.

02:00:15.000 The tension.

02:00:16.000 Because when people start losing money and there's no way to get it back and they're just losing their businesses through no fault of their own. 0.66

02:00:21.000 And then on top of that you see a video of a guy getting murdered by a cop and it's a slow torture murder and it's horrific and then the fucking city explodes and then what's unprecedented is that the whole world responds.

02:00:37.000 Like when is the whole world I know. 0.99

02:00:38.000 It's crazy, man.

02:00:40.000 It's crazy.

02:00:41.000 Good Lord.

02:00:42.000 And now here we are.

02:00:44.000 Here we are, two gun enthusiasts with gun shirts on.

02:00:49.000 Oh, they're going to hate you for that one. 1.00

02:00:50.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

02:00:51.000 Yeah, if you hate me for this now, like, come on, man. 0.99

02:00:55.000 I've been a hunter for eight years, and I've had guns for more than 20. I just...

02:01:02.000 I don't want anybody to die.

02:01:04.000 I don't want anybody to get hurt.

02:01:05.000 I don't want anybody to cry.

02:01:07.000 I don't want anybody to feel bad.

02:01:08.000 I don't.

02:01:09.000 I'm a sensitive person, whereas it sounds.

02:01:12.000 However, I'm a realist.

02:01:14.000 I understand humans, and I understand that we are a strange animal, and we live in this bizarre state of civilization that has a thin veneer A thin veneer that protects us from all of our survival instincts and chaos and all of our tribal instincts and our brutality that we have just under the surface.

02:01:36.000 And I'm very aware of that.

02:01:39.000 I'm very aware of the propensity that human beings have for violence.

02:01:43.000 And that's why I'm a gun advocate.

02:01:46.000 And that's why...

02:01:47.000 I support people like you, and that's why I want to have these kind of conversations, because I don't think there's enough people looking at it realistically, and I think there's more now.

02:01:55.000 And I think having a conversation with someone who's so well-reasoned about this is very important right now.

02:02:01.000 Yeah.

02:02:02.000 I don't know why or how it came about, but it's just something I've become really incredibly passionate about.

02:02:07.000 When did you first shoot a gun?

02:02:09.000 Like, what was the first time?

02:02:11.000 How old were you?

02:02:11.000 I think I was like 24 or 23. So you were fairly old in terms of...

02:02:15.000 Oh, yeah.

02:02:16.000 No, I was not pro-gun.

02:02:18.000 I was not pro-gun.

02:02:19.000 What kicked it off?

02:02:20.000 Shooting.

02:02:24.000 So what made you go to a range?

02:02:26.000 My best friend asked me to go.

02:02:28.000 Yeah, he randomly was like, hey, you want to go shoot?

02:02:30.000 And I was like...

02:02:31.000 And I was scared.

02:02:32.000 I was more scared than I was anti-gun.

02:02:33.000 Were you in law school at the time?

02:02:35.000 Yes.

02:02:35.000 Wait, hold on.

02:02:36.000 Oh, man, stuff starts getting so blurry.

02:02:38.000 I was either...

02:02:40.000 In the process of going to law school, I was already in law school.

02:02:43.000 I can't remember exactly.

02:02:44.000 But after that first shot, the second shot, actually, let me not lie.

02:02:50.000 The first shot, I was terrified.

02:02:51.000 Second shot, I was like, oh, yeah, I like this.

02:02:55.000 People hate hearing that.

02:02:57.000 Oh, yeah, no, no, no.

02:02:58.000 But it's no different for me.

02:03:00.000 Dude, the last time I was here, I was hearing me in California.

02:03:05.000 I was in San Francisco, to be specific.

02:03:08.000 I was filming for my show.

02:03:10.000 After we finished filming, I decided to stay over for several days as kind of like a getaway.

02:03:16.000 I rented a Porsche 911 GT3 on two-row.

02:03:22.000 Found the most...

02:03:23.000 What's Turo?

02:03:25.000 It's like Airbnb for cars.

02:03:26.000 Oh, so you rented somebody else's car?

02:03:29.000 Yeah.

02:03:29.000 They should pay me a lot of money for this right now.

02:03:30.000 Oh, wow.

02:03:30.000 So basically, yeah, you can take whatever cars you have...

02:03:33.000 I've heard of this.

02:03:34.000 I've heard of this.

02:03:35.000 So I found the most remote diner in San Francisco I could possibly find for my hotel.

02:03:41.000 I rented this 911 GT3, and I drove about an hour and 30 minutes to this diner. 0.99

02:03:47.000 Had some eggs, had some oatmeal, ate, got back in the car, drove back down the mountain, went back to my hotel, and then the next day, I plotted out another course, and I did the same shit. 0.85

02:03:58.000 I drove down to 101 and just drove. 0.98

02:04:01.000 And it was the most exhilarating, awesome shit I've ever done in my life. 0.98

02:04:05.000 Why can I have that type of reaction to doing that, but not to shooting a firearm? 0.98

02:04:11.000 It's the same thing.

02:04:12.000 Well, I think you should.

02:04:14.000 I don't have a problem with it at all.

02:04:17.000 The people that do have a problem with it, it is this emotional, in my opinion, narrow-minded perspective.

02:04:25.000 I think it's narrow-minded in that, well, okay, it's...

02:04:31.000 I think, in one way, it's not narrow-minded.

02:04:33.000 In one way, if you would want to look at it with the best perspective possible, you would hope that we have evolved to the point where we no longer need guns.

02:04:43.000 No one needs guns.

02:04:44.000 All across the land.

02:04:45.000 Everywhere in the world.

02:04:46.000 And that might and strength are no longer factors in the way people interact with each other.

02:04:51.000 People will no longer threaten people's lives or break down their doors or rape people or murder people or steal from them.

02:04:57.000 I would love that.

02:04:58.000 I would love that.

02:04:59.000 Look, I think if the three of us lived in a world, it was just you, me, and Jamie, we wouldn't need guns to protect ourselves.

02:05:05.000 You're a nice guy.

02:05:06.000 Jamie's great.

02:05:07.000 I'm a nice guy.

02:05:08.000 We wouldn't have any problems.

02:05:09.000 I don't know if Jamie wears his hat backwards.

02:05:11.000 He's fine.

02:05:12.000 He's fine.

02:05:13.000 Trust me.

02:05:14.000 But you know what I'm saying?

02:05:15.000 That's the problem.

02:05:16.000 The problem is the unknown.

02:05:17.000 People that you don't love.

02:05:18.000 People that you don't know anything about them.

02:05:21.000 And then people that look at you like an opportunity or like a victim rather than like a brother or a sister.

02:05:26.000 That's the problem with people.

02:05:28.000 And that problem largely comes from a bunch of different factors.

02:05:32.000 And one of those factors is overpopulation.

02:05:34.000 One of those factors is we don't need each other necessarily as much.

02:05:39.000 And that you look at people that have more than you have.

02:05:43.000 And you look at them as somehow or another, they've gotten that through some nefarious way.

02:05:48.000 That's another perspective thing I've noticed too.

02:05:51.000 That's a mentality that it's way more pervasive than it needs to be.

02:05:55.000 Right.

02:05:56.000 The way that people look at success.

02:05:58.000 I was raised...

02:06:00.000 My mom... 1.00

02:06:01.000 And I should be a fucking failure, to be honest with you. 0.99

02:06:04.000 I am like the epitome of having a background where I should be nothing. 0.99

02:06:09.000 My mom was like, look...

02:06:13.000 If them, why not you?

02:06:15.000 And not meaning any specific race or any specific type of people, but just anything.

02:06:19.000 If you want something and you see someone that has something that you want, work and figure out a way so that you can get it.

02:06:26.000 That should be a motivation, not something that I look down on and say, well, why do they get to have that?

02:06:31.000 That's not fair.

02:06:31.000 I should have that.

02:06:32.000 I think there's too much of that thought process and mentality in this country now.

02:06:36.000 It's a mind disease.

02:06:37.000 Yeah.

02:06:37.000 And I think it's scary.

02:06:39.000 It's scary because then what it does is it vilifies success.

02:06:42.000 And so now, instead of success being something that people aspire to, it's now become something that people attack.

02:06:49.000 And I think that's incredibly dangerous.

02:06:52.000 Incredibly dangerous.

02:06:53.000 Yeah, I agree.

02:06:54.000 And it's a very weak-minded perspective, too.

02:06:58.000 I mean, there's different kinds of success, too, right? 0.98

02:07:01.000 There's the success of someone who built a business versus success of someone who's doing some shady shit with loans and fucking over people with subprime mortgages. 0.93

02:07:15.000 There's different things that make you successful. 0.97

02:07:18.000 There's the Wolf of Wall Street money that you get from ripping people off and scamming people.

02:07:24.000 That being said, though, that's pretty blatant.

02:07:26.000 But it's also like the gun problem, man.

02:07:28.000 People are messy.

02:07:29.000 Yeah.

02:07:30.000 You know?

02:07:31.000 If everybody was like you, no one would have a problem with guns.

02:07:34.000 It's a messy problem that comes with just human beings because we're just weird.

02:07:39.000 People are weird.

02:07:40.000 No, you're right.

02:07:41.000 But here's the funny thing, though.

02:07:43.000 I have this kind of utopic vision of this mass education on firearms.

02:07:50.000 And the reason I have it, and I know it's a little naive to a degree, but I do believe like the gun changed the way I looked at the world.

02:07:58.000 And I think the gun, like a lot of like, you know, how did it change the way you look at the world?

02:08:02.000 It taught me to, even though my mom really kind of beat it into my head, the gun almost served as like a physical symbol of self-reliance.

02:08:12.000 Not that I don't need anyone, but to trust in my own ability to find a way to deal with any problems that I have.

02:08:19.000 Sometimes that ability means go to somebody who's better at it than you that can help you do something.

02:08:24.000 To learn.

02:08:25.000 Exactly.

02:08:26.000 Or it means find the strength within yourself to overcome an issue that you're dealing with.

02:08:31.000 The gun showed me, and not only taught me that, it taught me responsibility.

02:08:36.000 Because now we are talking, however I want to Disney-fy it, as far as the sporting enthusiast aspect of it, it's still something, it's life and death.

02:08:47.000 That is a tool of life and death.

02:08:50.000 That can be used to take a life and can be used to save one.

02:08:53.000 So because of that, that was a big responsibility, especially when I'm carrying that very thing on me everywhere I go.

02:08:59.000 So it had me really appreciate life more.

02:09:03.000 I started to value life a lot more.

02:09:05.000 Most people think you get a gun and all of a sudden you just want to take life.

02:09:08.000 No.

02:09:09.000 I tell people this all the time.

02:09:11.000 The day I have to use the gun to defend myself, I'm going to need therapy.

02:09:15.000 Flat out.

02:09:16.000 I'm going to need therapy because it's made me value life.

02:09:18.000 Not that I didn't value life before, but it's something that brings it to the forefront of your consciousness when you have a gun and you understand what that gun can be used to do.

02:09:26.000 And so that happens to way more people than people realize.

02:09:31.000 Most people think that people get a gun and they just become reckless murderers who want to kill everybody.

02:09:35.000 When in reality, there are a number of stories of people out there who...

02:09:38.000 I know a guy who the firearm helped him get out of his depression.

02:09:44.000 I know.

02:09:45.000 I know.

02:09:45.000 It sounds crazy.

02:09:47.000 It sounds crazy.

02:09:48.000 But he'll tell you the speech about it.

02:09:50.000 And he's very...

02:09:52.000 He should be...

02:09:53.000 I mean, he grew up in the streets of St. Louis.

02:09:56.000 And he didn't have a good life.

02:09:59.000 He was young and he was depressed, but when he got into firearms, that allowed him to deal with his depression because he found something he was passionate about.

02:10:06.000 That is crazy, but that's something that does actually work when you find something you really love and pursue it.

02:10:14.000 That's one of the problems I have with the term depression.

02:10:17.000 Boy, that's a blanket that you throw over so many different...

02:10:21.000 Factors.

02:10:22.000 It's almost like the term drugs.

02:10:25.000 Like if you say, are you on drugs?

02:10:26.000 Yeah, I drank a cup of coffee.

02:10:28.000 I'm on drugs.

02:10:29.000 I mean, really?

02:10:30.000 Or are you on heroin?

02:10:31.000 They're both drugs.

02:10:33.000 It's weird.

02:10:34.000 But depression is in many ways like that in that there are people, and I know these people, that have a real problem with their brain and the way their brain produces chemicals.

02:10:44.000 Same way some people have problems with their liver.

02:10:46.000 Some people have they're born with ineffective lungs.

02:10:49.000 These are all just parts of being a person.

02:10:51.000 And some people have like legitimate issues that I think they need medication for. 0.89

02:10:55.000 And then there's other people that they just don't feel good and they call it depression because their life sucks and their job sucks and no one wants to have sex with them and they don't have any money. 0.93

02:11:05.000 So they're depressed and they say I'm suffering from depression. 0.96

02:11:09.000 And so what do you do with that?

02:11:10.000 Well, some of those people get on medication, and I don't know if that's really the answer, because there's a lot of those people that I know that have discovered jiu-jitsu or discovered other things, yoga even.

02:11:21.000 Physical things often, because they release endorphins and because they're actually healthy for you, but also you get passionate about something and you see this improvement.

02:11:29.000 And when you were talking about that with guns, I was trying to describe to someone why I like shooting guns, and I said, one of the reasons why I like it is because I'm not very good at it.

02:11:37.000 I like learning things.

02:11:38.000 I like learning all kinds of things. 0.97

02:11:40.000 Oh, I sucked. 0.99

02:11:42.000 I'm sure. 0.88

02:11:42.000 When I started my YouTube channel, I started a thing called IDPA Diaries, which is like a shooting competition. 0.88

02:11:50.000 Oh, it was bad.

02:11:51.000 But you did it openly, which is great.

02:11:54.000 So people can see, oh, this guy isn't just...

02:11:57.000 Because I see you now.

02:11:57.000 It's like...

02:11:58.000 If I didn't know anything about guns, I'd be like, this guy is so good.

02:12:01.000 This is crazy.

02:12:02.000 And see, that's what I wanted when I started doing it.

02:12:04.000 I wanted people, because I was, like, I'm a city boy.

02:12:07.000 I didn't grow up with guns.

02:12:09.000 So when I started putting my, when I started my channel, I was like, okay, I know there are a lot of people who are like me.

02:12:15.000 And so I want them to be able to feel, to be able to relate to the idea of, okay, I'm starting afresh and I'm not that good.

02:12:21.000 So the YouTube channel was almost a way to chronolize my growth.

02:12:26.000 And if you start from video one and you go to my last video, you can literally watch the entire progression.

02:12:33.000 And that's what I wanted it to be.

02:12:34.000 So I knew.

02:12:36.000 And it was hard because I knew I was going to look bad.

02:12:39.000 Yeah.

02:12:39.000 Real bad.

02:12:40.000 And I started with video one for IDP Diaries.

02:12:43.000 And then as time went on, I stopped doing the diaries, but I was still shooting in front of the camera.

02:12:48.000 And even to this day, I'm known for not editing out my misses.

02:12:52.000 Good.

02:12:53.000 You're still gonna see me miss.

02:12:54.000 And there are some people, and it's hard, I'm not gonna lie to you, it's hard.

02:12:57.000 Because I do so much shooting, now there's an expectation that I should be good. 0.96

02:13:01.000 So, when I go out and do a gun review, and I'm missing with a particular gun, and then I see comments, man, you couldn't hit shit with that gun, man, you don't know, it does hit my ego a little bit. 0.98

02:13:10.000 Don't read the comments. 0.98

02:13:11.000 I know, right?

02:13:13.000 That's the key.

02:13:14.000 I mean, you're on the right path.

02:13:16.000 You have great content.

02:13:18.000 Just don't read the comments.

02:13:19.000 Do your best, don't read the comments.

02:13:21.000 And I've started doing it, actually.

02:13:22.000 I've cut it by 50%.

02:13:24.000 It's so important, man.

02:13:25.000 It's so important for mental health.

02:13:27.000 Yeah, it really is.

02:13:28.000 It really is.

02:13:28.000 Because you don't realize how much of an effect it's having until it starts having an effect.

02:13:33.000 Yeah.

02:13:33.000 And then you're like, why am I such in a shitty mood all the time?

02:13:36.000 It's just a terrible way to communicate with people.

02:13:38.000 Yeah.

02:13:38.000 You know, through little text messages on comments.

02:13:41.000 You don't even know them.

02:13:42.000 You don't know anything about them. 1.00

02:13:43.000 And they're saying mean shit to you. 1.00

02:13:45.000 Ah! 1.00

02:13:48.000 Let me tell you something.

02:13:49.000 The audacity of anonymity is insane.

02:13:52.000 It is.

02:13:53.000 It's a great way to put it.

02:13:54.000 It's a great way to put it.

02:13:55.000 The audacity of anonymity.

02:13:57.000 Yeah.

02:13:58.000 Anonymous people can get away with a lot.

02:14:00.000 A lot.

02:14:00.000 It's also, it's like a shitty way to communicate with people personally.

02:14:04.000 It's bad for you to shit on people through like anonymous little comments on someone's Instagram page or the YouTube channel. 0.99

02:14:10.000 It's just It's shitty. 1.00

02:14:11.000 It's shitty for you. 0.98

02:14:12.000 It's bad for you. 1.00

02:14:13.000 And like I said before, I grew up, my friends are assholes. 0.99

02:14:16.000 So I know how to give it back. 0.99

02:14:18.000 But if I do it now, I'm a bully.

02:14:20.000 Right.

02:14:21.000 That's the problem.

02:14:22.000 If you give it back, and then people will find you as a target, and then they start coming after you.

02:14:26.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

02:14:27.000 You can't do that.

02:14:29.000 You're better off just ignoring it.

02:14:32.000 Just keep moving.

02:14:33.000 Do your best.

02:14:34.000 Keep moving.

02:14:35.000 That's the plan now.

02:14:37.000 The platform's so big now, to try to let all that in, it's going to affect me emotionally.

02:14:45.000 How many Instagram followers do you have?

02:14:46.000 Right now, 624,000.

02:14:52.000 Imagine that in a room.

02:14:55.000 Imagine a room with six, imagine like the amount of, like how many, like a giant football arena is like what?

02:15:01.000 Jamie, you would know this.

02:15:02.000 What's like a big ass football arena? 0.78

02:15:04.000 15. Okay, imagine six of them bitches. 1.00

02:15:07.000 Six of them. 1.00

02:15:08.000 And that's just Instagram. 1.00

02:15:09.000 Fuck you! 1.00

02:15:10.000 You fucking missed all of them. 1.00

02:15:13.000 You fucking loser. 1.00

02:15:13.000 You can't hit shit with that gun. 1.00

02:15:15.000 Imagine all that number. 1.00

02:15:17.000 That's too many people.

02:15:18.000 That's unmanageable.

02:15:18.000 Here's how bad it is, how bad it was.

02:15:21.000 I was reading Instagram comments, the YouTube comments, where I have 1.4 million.

02:15:26.000 Facebook, where I have 1.3 million.

02:15:28.000 Dude, 108,000 on Twitter.

02:15:32.000 So I was going back and forth reading all of that.

02:15:35.000 And I hit a point when I was like, dude, this is not healthy.

02:15:41.000 So Facebook, that's the entire city of Austin. 1.00

02:15:43.000 You have the entire city of Austin going, fuck you! 1.00

02:15:47.000 Fuck you! 1.00

02:15:48.000 You can't do that, man. 1.00

02:15:50.000 You can't do that.

02:15:51.000 No one can manage that.

02:15:53.000 No, they can't.

02:15:53.000 Yeah.

02:15:54.000 It's just too many people. 0.99

02:15:55.000 It's too much opportunity for people to suck. 0.99

02:15:58.000 Which is true. 0.97

02:15:59.000 Face-to-face is the best way to talk to people, always.

02:16:02.000 If I'm going to be honest, though, I think some of it is my ego, where I think I can handle it.

02:16:07.000 It's like this false sense of stability that my ego has.

02:16:11.000 It's like, I can handle it.

02:16:12.000 I can handle it.

02:16:13.000 But the war of attrition is real.

02:16:16.000 It's still energy that's coming at you.

02:16:19.000 Whether you like it or not, it's still energy.

02:16:21.000 It is.

02:16:21.000 And if it's negative, it's going to feel bad.

02:16:23.000 Yep.

02:16:24.000 It might not feel as bad as it will for someone who's mentally unstable.

02:16:27.000 And I've seen some comedians who just get really crushed by comments, and it's horrible.

02:16:32.000 Yeah, man.

02:16:32.000 Like, they come on the show, and then they read.

02:16:35.000 I go, don't read the comments.

02:16:38.000 Donnell Rawlings! 1.00

02:16:39.000 When he was on with the RZA from Wu-Tang, I said, well, Donnell is just, he's a wild motherfucker, and he's funny as shit, and he's always loud, and he's just crazy. 1.00

02:16:49.000 Donnell's crazy. 0.99

02:16:49.000 But he was talking over the RZA a bunch of times, and people, I know they were gonna get mad. 0.99

02:16:54.000 And he, I love Donnell, so when he was doing it, I was just laughing my ass off.

02:16:58.000 I thought it was awesome.

02:16:59.000 That was a great podcast.

02:17:01.000 And then at the end, I said, don't read the comments.

02:17:04.000 I hugged him like, oh, that was great, man.

02:17:05.000 Don't read the comments. 0.99

02:17:06.000 He's like, you fucking told me. 0.99

02:17:08.000 You told me not to read the comments. 0.99

02:17:09.000 It's hard, dude.

02:17:10.000 Sometimes it's really hard.

02:17:11.000 You know what it is sometimes?

02:17:14.000 It's your own fault.

02:17:16.000 Because what you go to do is to get your ego stroked.

02:17:20.000 That's really what you're doing.

02:17:22.000 You're really going on there hoping everyone's like, man, he was awesome.

02:17:26.000 I love him.

02:17:27.000 I'm a pro Second Amendment guy now. 1.00

02:17:31.000 And then you get up there and you're like, you suck. 1.00

02:17:33.000 And you're like, oh shit. 1.00

02:17:35.000 And you're like, alright, okay. 1.00

02:17:37.000 Yeah.

02:17:37.000 I'm too polarizing to read the comments.

02:17:39.000 Because people either love me or they fucking hate me. 0.98

02:17:42.000 Yeah, which is true. 0.99

02:17:42.000 I've learned that. 0.99

02:17:43.000 Yeah, it's weird.

02:17:45.000 So I just go, okay, I'm just going to keep doing what I do.

02:17:48.000 Something's going right, I think.

02:17:50.000 I don't know, man.

02:17:51.000 Just a little bit.

02:17:52.000 I mean, I think you can step it up a little bit.

02:17:54.000 Just turn it up a little bit.

02:17:57.000 I'm trying to do my best.

02:17:58.000 I really am.

02:17:59.000 I mean, I'm not a fan of me.

02:18:01.000 Yeah.

02:18:01.000 You know, I don't like what I do.

02:18:03.000 I think I could always do better.

02:18:04.000 You know, it's funny.

02:18:04.000 A lot of people don't realize that people who put themselves out, like, you know, in front of the camera, like you and I, so forth and so on, like...

02:18:10.000 Even though we may kind of get affected by your comments, they're never anywhere close to being as bad as what we tell ourselves in our heads.

02:18:18.000 Oh, for sure.

02:18:19.000 I had the worst self-talk on the planet.

02:18:21.000 Yeah.

02:18:22.000 Like, it's bad.

02:18:22.000 It's toxic.

02:18:23.000 I do, too.

02:18:24.000 Yeah.

02:18:25.000 But I think that's also what drives you.

02:18:27.000 Yeah.

02:18:27.000 You know, it's just like I have good self-love, too.

02:18:29.000 Like, I'm not as much as I'm supposed to.

02:18:34.000 Because I have a problem in that I don't want to say I'm too driven, but I get very focused on things, especially things that I'm trying to get good at, and things that I take seriously, whether it's stand-up or whether it's doing this podcast or other things that I do,

02:18:52.000 UFC commentary.

02:18:54.000 And so if I fall short, I'm very hard on myself.

02:18:58.000 Yeah.

02:18:58.000 So that if I read other people that also are mad at me for falling short and it piles on, it's like, listen man, I'm right there with you.

02:19:06.000 You're not going to get an argument from me whether or not I suck. 0.80

02:19:11.000 I'm right there with you. 0.99

02:19:12.000 I'm pretty terrible. 0.90

02:19:14.000 Everything I've ever done wrong, I'm fucking furious at myself for. 0.71

02:19:16.000 Yep, I'm the same way. 0.88

02:19:17.000 I'm the same way.

02:19:18.000 And it's like, nothing's ever enough.

02:19:20.000 No.

02:19:21.000 I mean, I can have any type, and this can't be healthy, but any type of thing I succeed at or anything that I do that is a milestone that people are like, oh, this is awesome.

02:19:31.000 It lasts maybe 10 seconds, and I'm like, alright, you need to do better.

02:19:34.000 Yes, but that's also why you're really good at things.

02:19:36.000 And this is another thing that you see from people that are mediocre. 0.76

02:19:40.000 It infuriates me.

02:19:42.000 Where they come up with excuses for why they fall short.

02:19:46.000 They come up with excuses for why they didn't succeed in their chosen profession.

02:19:50.000 They come up with excuses for why other people do well, but they've been ostracized, or they've been cast out, or they never were accepted, or they were treated like a second-class citizen.

02:19:59.000 No, you're mediocre.

02:20:00.000 You're mediocre, and you're not critical on yourself. 0.98

02:20:03.000 And I don't wish that on anybody. 0.98

02:20:06.000 It's truth.

02:20:07.000 I mean, it is what it is.

02:20:08.000 And the thing is, you have to get past, I call it the ego wall.

02:20:13.000 We're good to go.

02:20:35.000 What's the alternative? 0.99

02:20:37.000 Bitch about it, and like you said, complain. 1.00

02:20:38.000 Complain. 0.99

02:20:39.000 When I see people, particularly this happens, when you see people who are not very good commenting on people who are successful, they start saying, this is one of the reasons why I could never make it, because the people that made, they're sellouts, or they're this,

02:20:54.000 or they're that, and like, okay.

02:20:57.000 You know who doesn't leave comments like that?

02:20:59.000 Winners.

02:21:00.000 This is so true.

02:21:01.000 That's the facts. 0.99

02:21:02.000 Dave Chappelle's not going on fucking Twitter talking shit about people. 0.99

02:21:06.000 That's the facts. 0.99

02:21:07.000 The people who are really successful are the ones who are analyzing themselves, looking at their own work, and keep moving.

02:21:14.000 Doesn't mean you don't fail. 0.99

02:21:15.000 Doesn't mean you don't fuck up. 0.99

02:21:16.000 Doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. 0.99

02:21:18.000 And the difference though is you do it Publicly.

02:21:21.000 Yeah.

02:21:22.000 You mess up publicly.

02:21:23.000 Oh, yeah.

02:21:24.000 And that's a lot to take in.

02:21:25.000 And even when I was on Bill Maher and I was on a roundtable, I didn't think I did a good job.

02:21:32.000 I don't. 1.00

02:21:32.000 It's fucking almost impossible to do a good job in that goddamn roundtable. 1.00

02:21:36.000 It was probably my worst showings. 0.99

02:21:39.000 Now, for reasons that I think I went into it thinking...

02:21:43.000 I went into it like a lawyer.

02:21:45.000 I thought, I can go on, reason, and understand.

02:21:49.000 I was outclassed because they had a great command of using emotion.

02:21:53.000 And clapping!

02:21:54.000 Well, there's that, yeah.

02:21:55.000 They're teachers.

02:21:59.000 Hooray! 0.97

02:22:00.000 You got him!

02:22:01.000 One on the board!

02:22:02.000 For us!

02:22:05.000 Yeah.

02:22:06.000 I don't think it's a good way to communicate.

02:22:08.000 And I said it with Bill on the show when he was trying to talk to me and doing the show and I think I agreed to it but then I found ways to get out of it.

02:22:14.000 This is why, man, talking one-on-one is hard enough.

02:22:18.000 Like, you have a thought, sometimes you're expanding, and I have a thought, and I'm holding onto it, but then you keep talking, and I don't know when to get it in there, and I lose it. 0.66

02:22:26.000 Now, when there's three other fucking people, and they're all trying to get sound bites they're hoping are gonna be on YouTube... 0.77

02:22:32.000 It's all performative. 0.99

02:22:33.000 It is a lot of it.

02:22:34.000 A lot of it is performative. 0.99

02:22:35.000 And then on top of it, it really is performative because there's a fucking audience there. 0.99

02:22:38.000 Yeah, you're right. 0.99

02:22:39.000 And they're all liberal and they're all clapping and cheering and they're all, which they should be.

02:22:43.000 They're his fans.

02:22:44.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

02:22:45.000 There were a couple times I wanted to be like, I'd make a point and I'm like, really?

02:22:48.000 You're not going to clap?

02:22:49.000 Ah!

02:22:51.000 It's a bad way to communicate in front of people like that.

02:22:54.000 It's one thing to perform if you're doing stand-up or singing a song or something like that in front of a large crowd.

02:23:00.000 That's one thing.

02:23:01.000 But having conversations in front of crowds, it's like a weird added element and you're appealing to others to chime in and reinforce your thoughts.

02:23:11.000 Yeah.

02:23:11.000 No, you're absolutely right.

02:23:13.000 Now, I will forever, ever, ever be grateful that he gave me the opportunity to go into that lion's den.

02:23:18.000 Because it's a place that I think a lot of pro-gun people haven't been able to go into.

02:23:23.000 Hopefully I communicated in a manner that resonated with a lot of people.

02:23:28.000 In the same way here.

02:23:30.000 It's...

02:23:32.000 I'd be lying if I said I did not value the ability for the time being within this two-hour, three-hour space to have access to your audience.

02:23:43.000 At the same time, because I don't understand why.

02:23:47.000 I mean, I understand why, but I'm just passionate about this.

02:23:50.000 In a way that sometimes even I have a hard time articulating.

02:23:54.000 And so when I see all of these new people, because I know your audience is very vast.

02:23:58.000 Like, I have a base.

02:23:59.000 There's a base in my audience, right?

02:24:02.000 Gun people. 0.96

02:24:03.000 And a lot of them very conservative.

02:24:05.000 And with your audience, it gives me the ability to speak to a wider gap of people who would otherwise never even look in my direction because of what I talk about.

02:24:18.000 And there aren't that many platforms that are available right now that are willing to open their doors to the opposite perspective.

02:24:26.000 Because you're a smart guy, you know this.

02:24:30.000 This puts you in a very peculiar situation.

02:24:33.000 You can end up looking really bad because you're literally confronting and testing out all of your ideas in front of your audience that thinks that you know everything.

02:24:43.000 Right?

02:24:44.000 And so many people aren't willing to do that because they're worried about looking bad, which is why I give mad props to Bill Maher as well, because there aren't too many platforms.

02:24:54.000 Most people just want to sit in their echo chambers, yell at their audience and say, all right!

02:24:59.000 Right?

02:25:00.000 Yeah.

02:25:01.000 So I'm hard-pressed to think about any other type of platforms that may have a different perspective that would let me come on like this.

02:25:09.000 And that's just me being honest.

02:25:11.000 Well, I think it's important to talk to people that have all sorts of different ideas.

02:25:17.000 There's a thing going on today where people talk about giving someone a platform.

02:25:22.000 You shouldn't be giving them access to your platform. 0.61

02:25:25.000 I'm like, well, what the fuck is the purpose of a platform if it's not to test out ideas? 0.76

02:25:31.000 If you want to talk to someone... 0.98

02:25:32.000 I mean, I'm not talking about someone who's in the KKK or something.

02:25:36.000 But talking to people that have controversial viewpoints...

02:25:40.000 One of the best ways to sort those viewpoints out is to challenge them.

02:25:44.000 And in fact, there's a lot of people that would support a lot of...

02:25:48.000 There's people that I've had on where I've confronted them on their ideas and they lost a lot of fans.

02:25:56.000 Because of it.

02:25:57.000 Because these ideas now fall apart under scrutiny.

02:26:00.000 Under someone who could talk to you for long periods of time and just start going, okay, well, why do you think that?

02:26:06.000 And then they say this and that.

02:26:07.000 And then you go, well, where's that coming from?

02:26:09.000 And then they see this and that.

02:26:10.000 And then as you get deeper and deeper, you get to the basement. 0.99

02:26:13.000 And you go, oh, this ain't shit. 0.99

02:26:15.000 There's nothing in here. 0.99

02:26:16.000 But I think the problem, too, is that people don't understand.

02:26:20.000 You can't know everything.

02:26:21.000 Right.

02:26:21.000 So, for instance, we started talking, halfway through, we started talking about climate change.

02:26:25.000 Right.

02:26:27.000 My knowledge of climate change is very limited.

02:26:29.000 Very limited.

02:26:31.000 You're going to hit a point, I'm like, dude, I don't know.

02:26:33.000 Yeah, well, mine's pretty limited, too.

02:26:35.000 Yeah, but I think the problem is some people have this expectation where they tell themselves, well, I have to know this because people expect me to know this.

02:26:43.000 And if I say that I don't know, then I'm going to lose.

02:26:45.000 And look, I made, I don't know, maybe there's some diehard climate.

02:26:48.000 You know, somebody can make an argument that says, okay, well, yeah, that's because most people don't follow you for climate change.

02:26:53.000 Right, sure.

02:26:54.000 The climate change argument, to me, is one of the things that's really fascinating about it, is I think, and I mean this in a very...

02:27:05.000 This is a hard way to grasp this, but this is the way I'm going to try to parse this out.

02:27:10.000 I think it's a control issue.

02:27:12.000 And I don't think it's a control issue in meaning that people are trying to control people, and that people are trying to gain control of one very small factor in our mortality.

02:27:22.000 And I think it's good to do that.

02:27:24.000 I think it's good to make the world cleaner, and I think it's good to use clean energy, and I think it's good to use solar.

02:27:29.000 I think all these things are good. 0.97

02:27:31.000 But I think we're fucked anyway. 0.99

02:27:32.000 I think we're fucked anywhere because of solar flares and volcanoes and earthquakes and tsunamis and asteroids and pandemics. 1.00

02:27:41.000 I think we're fucked anyway. 0.99

02:27:43.000 And I think if you look at the history of the world, there's been radical changes before we ever came about. 1.00

02:27:50.000 Whether it's asteroid impacts or massive fucking ice ages or all kinds of crazy shit that's killed off people from the beginning of fucking people. 0.99

02:27:58.000 There's been a lot of them. 0.99

02:28:00.000 And if you think that switching totally to solar is going to stop all that other shit from happening, you got another thing coming. 0.57

02:28:07.000 It doesn't mean that solar is not good. 0.82

02:28:08.000 It doesn't mean that cleaning the air is not good.

02:28:10.000 I think these are very important factors.

02:28:11.000 But the idea that it's going to save us.

02:28:13.000 But that's why I say I think, based on my limited knowledge, with respect to the New Deal and things of that nature, I think some of it, if not more of it, seems to me economically subversive.

02:28:25.000 I don't know.

02:28:25.000 I don't know about that.

02:28:26.000 I've heard a lot of criticisms about the Green New Deal.

02:28:29.000 Most of them are from Republicans.

02:28:31.000 I haven't heard any criticisms.

02:28:33.000 I would like to hear criticisms from Democrats that don't support it.

02:28:35.000 But I think the idea behind green energy is great.

02:28:40.000 I do too.

02:28:41.000 It'd be wonderful.

02:28:41.000 Even though I hate electric cars.

02:28:43.000 Less pollution. 0.97

02:28:44.000 You know, what's really crazy is the best energy is really fucking nuclear. 0.93

02:28:49.000 It has the least amount of impact. 0.96

02:28:50.000 They did it pretty sucky back in the Fukushima days.

02:28:54.000 They didn't know what they were doing. 0.95

02:28:56.000 I mean, the energy that they have now when it comes to nuclear is really fucking good. 0.99

02:29:01.000 I mean, look what we do with our fucking... 0.97

02:29:03.000 What are those massive city ships? 0.99

02:29:06.000 I can't believe I forgot the name of what they're called.

02:29:09.000 Our...

02:29:10.000 You know, big warships.

02:29:13.000 Aircraft carriers.

02:29:14.000 Aircraft carriers, yeah.

02:29:14.000 I mean, submarines as well.

02:29:16.000 I mean, that's insane.

02:29:18.000 Yeah, they're nuclear.

02:29:19.000 Yeah.

02:29:20.000 Like I said, this is out of my wheelhouse.

02:29:23.000 You know, I got a business partner.

02:29:25.000 He's the electrical engineer. 0.99

02:29:26.000 He may be able to talk to you about that crap. 0.99

02:29:27.000 But... 0.99

02:29:28.000 I don't know about it either. 1.00

02:29:29.000 When they say nuclear submarine, that goes in one ear and she comes flying up the other, my stupid chimp brain. 1.00

02:29:35.000 I don't know what that means. 1.00

02:29:37.000 I only know about them in a fascinating body.

02:29:39.000 I tend to drink and then watch documentaries on Netflix about World War II and stuff like that.

02:29:47.000 I oddly watch a lot of Hitler documentaries because the manner in which the people... 1.00

02:29:54.000 It's so fascinating in a very scary way. 0.99

02:29:57.000 It's scary the strong leader, the amount of power a strong leader has over whether it's Kim Jong-un or you know any that's the thing I would keep saying to people when they don't think that all that shit can happen. 0.97

02:30:10.000 I'm like listen, they're human beings in 2020. Human beings in 2020 are under the control of a military dictatorship. 0.98

02:30:16.000 That's happening right now.

02:30:18.000 It's happening in more than one country.

02:30:19.000 It's a style of civilization that exists and has existed since the beginning of time.

02:30:25.000 I don't want it to happen here.

02:30:27.000 People don't understand our way of living.

02:30:30.000 It's still a baby.

02:30:32.000 It's still a baby compared to the other structures that are out there in the world.

02:30:36.000 It's an experiment.

02:30:37.000 It's an experiment and self-government.

02:30:39.000 A lot of people are like, this experiment should be canceled, let's get rid of it, start from scratch. 0.99

02:30:44.000 And do the same shit that didn't work before. 0.99

02:30:46.000 I don't know, man. 0.99

02:30:47.000 I mean, I don't think we could start a new country. 0.98

02:30:49.000 I mean, I know Chaz is supposed to be a new country, but bitch, you didn't even build any of those buildings. 1.00

02:30:54.000 You're basically doing the exact same thing that we did to the Native Americans. 0.99

02:30:58.000 It didn't even take a week.

02:30:59.000 They built borders.

02:31:00.000 They had people with guns.

02:31:02.000 And they beat people up for not complying.

02:31:04.000 They had bad cops.

02:31:06.000 They beat this dude up for taking pictures.

02:31:08.000 Like, come on, man.

02:31:09.000 You'd be so pissed if the cops did that.

02:31:13.000 It's human, man.

02:31:14.000 It's a human issue.

02:31:16.000 Humans have control over humans.

02:31:17.000 I've told this story, forgive me if you've heard it before.

02:31:20.000 I used to work as a security guard.

02:31:22.000 For a short period of time, when I was 19 years old, I worked at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.

02:31:26.000 It's this Mansfield, Massachusetts amphitheater that all these concerts would play at.

02:31:31.000 I saw Jon Bon Jovi there, or Bon Jovi the band.

02:31:34.000 I saw Bill Cosby perform there. 1.00

02:31:37.000 When I was working there, I saw a lot of shit. 0.98

02:31:40.000 And I developed, in a very short period of time, most of the guys that I... I got the job because one of the guys that I trained with at my Taekwondo school was a security guard. 0.99

02:31:49.000 He said, hey, you want this job?

02:31:50.000 It pays really good.

02:31:52.000 It's really easy.

02:31:52.000 You get to see concerts.

02:31:53.000 And I was like, okay.

02:31:54.000 So he hired...

02:31:56.000 They hired a bunch of black belts to be security.

02:31:58.000 So it was...

02:31:59.000 Yeah, it was like a bunch of us.

02:32:01.000 Like black belts in... 0.95

02:32:02.000 Martial arts.

02:32:03.000 Okay.

02:32:03.000 Yeah.

02:32:04.000 Like mixed martial arts?

02:32:05.000 No, I was talking about no back then.

02:32:06.000 Okay, gotcha.

02:32:07.000 This is like...

02:32:08.000 Before the...

02:32:08.000 This was 1986. I was 19, so it was 86. Yeah, it was like just a bunch of karate people.

02:32:18.000 Yeah.

02:32:19.000 Right?

02:32:19.000 So we're out there and we almost instantly...

02:32:23.000 Develop this us-versus-them mentality almost instantly we'd yell at people when they were doing things wrong We treat them like shit and I recognized that I was like wow, this is weird like instantly I'll become like I've developed this attitude that these people because they didn't want to listen They kept doing things they're not supposed to do and you're supposed to enforce it and you get mad and you do have some power Because you have the security jacket. 1.00

02:32:44.000 I'm so stupid. 0.99

02:32:45.000 You have a walkie-talkie the first day I was there this kid stole a golf cart First day. 1.00

02:32:51.000 And this guy who was the head security guy, his name was Ali Tatt, tackled this dude and beat the shit out of him with a walkie-talkie.

02:32:57.000 He beat this guy in the head with a walkie-talkie my first day on the job. 0.63

02:33:00.000 I was like, oh, okay, so that's how we're doing it.

02:33:03.000 Like, this is crazy. 1.00

02:33:05.000 And again, I'm a fucking child. 1.00

02:33:07.000 I'm 19 years old. 1.00

02:33:08.000 I'm a moron. 0.99

02:33:09.000 I don't know anything. 0.99

02:33:10.000 But I was smart enough to recognize, like, this is weird.

02:33:14.000 This attitude that we have all developed as a security team, this us versus them. 0.97

02:33:20.000 Now, magnify that times a fucking hundred million and you get cops. 0.98

02:33:24.000 Bingo. 0.98

02:33:24.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:33:25.000 Wasn't there a social experiment done, like this famous social experiment?

02:33:28.000 Stanford University experiment.

02:33:30.000 Yeah, gotcha, gotcha, yeah. 1.00

02:33:32.000 Yeah, they immediately started abusing the inmates, treating them like shit. 1.00

02:33:36.000 And it's funny because it's like, so I watch a lot of Tim Pool, and he calls it LARPing. 0.99

02:33:42.000 Tim's great.

02:33:43.000 Yeah, I love Tim. 0.98

02:33:45.000 It's just funny because it's like, how quickly, how quickly they relegated themselves to doing the exact same shit That they were critiquing and criticizing. 0.98

02:33:55.000 Yes, 100%. 0.98

02:33:55.000 They're pretending to be progressive and they have borders. 0.98

02:33:58.000 Yeah, like, let everybody in, you fucks! 0.99

02:34:00.000 But they wanted to control it. 0.99

02:34:02.000 Well, how do you control things?

02:34:03.000 You control things with borders.

02:34:04.000 How do you reinforce your ideas?

02:34:05.000 Well, you have to beat people up. 1.00

02:34:08.000 It's fucking crazy! 1.00

02:34:10.000 It's fucking crazy! 1.00

02:34:11.000 It's like, these are, it's like, you're doing, it's almost like a petri dish. 1.00

02:34:15.000 You're doing experiments.

02:34:16.000 This is a human lab, and this lab is failing.

02:34:20.000 I think people think, like, People watch you do what you do.

02:34:25.000 And especially when they don't realize you've been doing this for years. 0.99

02:34:31.000 And they're like, he doesn't do shit but sit behind the microphone and talk. 0.97

02:34:35.000 I'm like, all right, I want you to come on camera. 0.99

02:34:39.000 Find somebody who you even kind of sort of agree with.

02:34:42.000 Have a three-hour conversation with them and then keep it engaging during the entire conversation.

02:34:47.000 And see how long you last.

02:34:48.000 And then do that multiple times a day.

02:34:50.000 It's not that easy, but it's something you get better at.

02:34:54.000 Yeah, I know.

02:34:55.000 That's what's weird about it.

02:34:56.000 But you got better at it through repetition.

02:34:57.000 Yes.

02:34:58.000 And funny, we kind of talked about this the last time I was here.

02:35:01.000 And the problem is that when you only watch the end result of your repetition and getting to where you are now, people oversimplify what it is that you do.

02:35:15.000 And so what happens is they think they can do it better, even though they haven't engaged in the same level of repetition or thought process to really think it out.

02:35:24.000 So what I think is happening is you got all these kids with these grandiose ideas, right?

02:35:29.000 They go to these schools and teach them these grandiose ideas from professors telling them, like, this is the way we can do it.

02:35:33.000 This is the way we can do it.

02:35:34.000 And then they're like, yeah, yeah, give us the country.

02:35:36.000 We can do it a lot better than they can.

02:35:39.000 Oh, really?

02:35:40.000 Okay.

02:35:41.000 Well, you see the result of that.

02:35:45.000 You have Seattle. 0.99

02:35:46.000 And things go shit like that. 1.00

02:35:49.000 And the funny thing is, it's going to shit while still having the support structure of an entire city. 0.99

02:35:56.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:35:57.000 It's not like they don't have the resources of the city to be provided for them.

02:36:01.000 It's basically a tumor.

02:36:02.000 Basically.

02:36:03.000 And so it's like...

02:36:04.000 If I was the government, I'd be pumping guns into them.

02:36:06.000 I'd be like, you guys need guns.

02:36:08.000 You should get explosives.

02:36:10.000 You want some C4? Here's some biological weapons.

02:36:14.000 Here's some anthrax.

02:36:16.000 If I was trying to collapse it.

02:36:18.000 And the crazy thing is...

02:36:20.000 The Founding Fathers understood that human nature, that if there's a vacuum of power, there's always going to be someone or something willing to fill it.

02:36:30.000 And if left unchecked, it will become a black hole of power, which is why they tried to organize our country the way that they did, by separating the powers to serve this check against other entities.

02:36:43.000 People don't really appreciate The beauty of that.

02:37:04.000 It's intoxicating.

02:37:05.000 Yeah.

02:37:06.000 Now imagine being in charge of millions of people.

02:37:09.000 Right.

02:37:09.000 Oh, come on, man.

02:37:10.000 Or being a general that can lead people into war.

02:37:13.000 People into war. 0.98

02:37:13.000 Yeah, you could decide to just fucking light up this city. 0.98

02:37:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:37:17.000 That's nuts. 0.99

02:37:18.000 It's nuts.

02:37:19.000 And I don't think people have a big enough appreciation for...

02:37:24.000 How intoxicating power really is.

02:37:26.000 Exactly.

02:37:26.000 And I think that's one of the reasons why you need a stringent evaluation process before you let someone be a police officer.

02:37:33.000 Instead of just like trying to recruit people, it should be something where you don't want to recruit people.

02:37:38.000 You want to say, listen, man, this job ain't for you. 0.99

02:37:40.000 You know, you got to jump through hoops and ladders to get this fucking job. 0.98

02:37:43.000 I think the problem, though, is we kind of have to measure that against The problem is that means there will be less cops. 0.99

02:37:51.000 Yes.

02:37:52.000 And we don't exactly have an overemphasis.

02:37:54.000 It's not like we have too many cops now.

02:37:56.000 Right.

02:37:57.000 So it's like, man, how do we balance that?

02:37:59.000 Right.

02:37:59.000 And then what do we do about the places where they want to defund the cops, where they're voting overwhelmingly in Minneapolis to defund the police department?

02:38:07.000 I mean, I don't know what that means.

02:38:08.000 Let them eat cake?

02:38:09.000 Oh, man.

02:38:10.000 Because it's like, what do you do when they're doing it to themselves?

02:38:15.000 I don't know, but there's good people that live in Minneapolis.

02:38:17.000 That's very true.

02:38:18.000 They're really doing that.

02:38:20.000 Yeah.

02:38:20.000 And you're right, because there's a lot of people that, like, in the gun debate or in the gun discussion, you know, when we talk about places like California and people are like, oh, it's not fair.

02:38:29.000 The gun laws here suck. 0.98

02:38:30.000 And a lot of people who, like, live in Texas or live in more freer states are like, well, move. 0.92

02:38:34.000 It's not that easy.

02:38:35.000 No.

02:38:36.000 It's not always that easy.

02:38:36.000 So you're right.

02:38:37.000 So I take that back because you're right.

02:38:38.000 There are a lot of people in these places that don't really have a say and they can't just meet.

02:38:42.000 They can't just leave.

02:38:42.000 Well, especially now, right?

02:38:44.000 Because post-COVID, most people are broke.

02:38:46.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:38:47.000 There's a lot of people that didn't work at all for three fucking whole months. 0.96

02:38:50.000 They went through all their savings. 0.97

02:38:52.000 You're right.

02:38:54.000 Try to move now.

02:38:55.000 And then also, where's the jobs? 0.94

02:38:58.000 Where the fuck are you going to get a job? 0.99

02:39:00.000 If you're stuck in Minneapolis and they defund the cops, you're like, oh my god, you better buy some bullets. 0.99

02:39:05.000 You better get some guns and get some bullets and get some friends who also have guns.

02:39:09.000 And form a small militia.

02:39:12.000 But you don't need that.

02:39:14.000 The Founding Fathers had muskets.

02:39:17.000 How much do you hate that argument?

02:39:19.000 They wrote that back when they had muskets.

02:39:23.000 But then we'll be so quick to invalidate the notion that, well, you know, they also wrote it when they only had quill pins.

02:39:28.000 It's true.

02:39:29.000 You know, and parchment to write on.

02:39:33.000 They did it by candlelight.

02:39:34.000 Bingo.

02:39:35.000 Yeah.

02:39:35.000 Right?

02:39:36.000 Fucking dopes. 1.00

02:39:37.000 What do they know? 1.00

02:39:37.000 They didn't have no internet. 1.00

02:39:41.000 It's amazing how really well thought out their system of government was.

02:39:45.000 If you consider the fact that we still use it in 2020. I think it's beautiful.

02:39:52.000 It's not perfect.

02:39:53.000 It's not perfect at all.

02:39:55.000 Nothing with people involved is perfect.

02:39:57.000 Exactly.

02:39:58.000 And I used to say that when I was in law school and I talked about the law, the practice of the law, and the idea that I was like, theoretically, the justice system is perfect.

02:40:08.000 It's just executed by imperfect people.

02:40:11.000 The concepts are perfect.

02:40:13.000 They're just, when you add the element of people who are imperfect, Then that inherently is what creates the imperfection in the system.

02:40:21.000 Right, and the system is designed to sort of mitigate the imperfections of people.

02:40:26.000 Exactly. 0.97

02:40:26.000 And it's done a pretty fucking good job if you think about how goddamn old it is. 0.97

02:40:31.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.96

02:40:32.000 Now, like I said, people do fall through the cracks, and there are some things that are deteriorating as a result of it, and those things need to be addressed.

02:40:42.000 But, by and large, people need to understand that. 0.96

02:40:46.000 It's 244 years old, or whatever the fuck it is. 0.99

02:40:50.000 Like, goddamn, it's old. 0.99

02:40:52.000 It's really old. 1.00

02:40:53.000 It's crazy!

02:40:55.000 I guess it's young compared to other systems. 1.00

02:41:00.000 Those fucking dummies. 1.00

02:41:01.000 Think about how they're doing it. 1.00

02:41:03.000 Look at what's going on in China.

02:41:04.000 That's the oldest one we got.

02:41:06.000 It's crazy, man.

02:41:08.000 The government and all businesses are intertwined inexorably.

02:41:13.000 You want to run a corporation?

02:41:14.000 Great. 1.00

02:41:14.000 You work for the fucking government. 1.00

02:41:16.000 Could you imagine? 1.00

02:41:17.000 Could you imagine?

02:41:17.000 And people are wondering why they don't want to let Huawei in.

02:41:20.000 Like, I've had people explain that to me. 0.93

02:41:22.000 Like, companies that have been accused of using third-party backdoors to steal data and espionage and all kinds of shit.

02:41:29.000 That's why they won't let them sell their cell phones here.

02:41:31.000 Like, that's a part of it.

02:41:32.000 That's a branch of the Chinese government.

02:41:34.000 Gotcha.

02:41:35.000 Like, they're not really a corporation that's like free and independent like Apple or, you know, I don't even know how independent they are when you get to a certain size.

02:41:43.000 That is true.

02:41:44.000 I think someone probably comes knocking.

02:41:45.000 Yeah, at some point.

02:41:46.000 Hey, y'all.

02:41:47.000 There is such thing as being too big.

02:41:51.000 Yeah.

02:41:52.000 Well, especially when you're dealing with information, like with Google and Apple, and you're collecting so much data, and the government would love to take a look at that stuff.

02:42:02.000 We could save a lot of lives.

02:42:04.000 We could just see what this man's browser history is.

02:42:07.000 Oh, the beautiful pretext to tyranny.

02:42:10.000 We can save lives.

02:42:11.000 Yeah.

02:42:11.000 That is...

02:42:13.000 Yeah, man.

02:42:14.000 I can't get down with that.

02:42:15.000 I know.

02:42:15.000 I can't get down with it either.

02:42:17.000 But it's like, what do we do?

02:42:19.000 What do we do to keep it from sliding into the abyss?

02:42:22.000 I mean...

02:42:24.000 Get a gun.

02:42:29.000 I don't know, Joe.

02:42:30.000 You're getting a little too extreme for me now, brother.

02:42:33.000 That's an argument that you couldn't have made five months ago.

02:42:37.000 But now people are like, hmm, maybe.

02:42:40.000 Hmm.

02:42:41.000 It's bittersweet.

02:42:43.000 It's very bittersweet because I hate that it had to come to this for people to kind of start realizing it.

02:42:51.000 Right.

02:42:51.000 But I can't be too surprised.

02:42:53.000 I've been preaching it for how long now that this could possibly happen.

02:42:56.000 Right.

02:42:57.000 So it's kind of I shouldn't be too surprised, but it's still kind of bittersweet.

02:43:00.000 My only thing is right now is I just I just for all the new people.

02:43:05.000 I implore you, go out.

02:43:08.000 I know times are hard, money's tight, but if you have the ability, at bare minimum, Get on YouTube and just gorge.

02:43:16.000 There's so much information. 0.97

02:43:18.000 Even though YouTube has done a good job of trying to filter this shit out. 0.97

02:43:22.000 You can still search. 0.99

02:43:23.000 You can still get there.

02:43:24.000 You can just literally search what you're thinking.

02:43:27.000 They're definitely not promoting you.

02:43:28.000 They're definitely not promoting me.

02:43:30.000 This video will never hit the trending section of YouTube.

02:43:35.000 Nope.

02:43:36.000 You know what else didn't know?

02:43:37.000 Elon Musk.

02:43:40.000 He's controversial.

02:43:42.000 Yeah.

02:43:42.000 So they decide what trends and what doesn't trend.

02:43:45.000 Yeah.

02:43:46.000 I like Elon.

02:43:48.000 I love him.

02:43:49.000 He's awesome.

02:43:49.000 Yeah.

02:43:50.000 I think we should have a conversation where I can sit down with Elon and talk to him about these electric cars, though.

02:43:57.000 Yeah.

02:43:59.000 What are you going to say to him?

02:44:00.000 He makes awesome electric cars.

02:44:02.000 Bro, can you make a non-electric car as awesome as the electric car?

02:44:06.000 No, he wouldn't do that.

02:44:07.000 No, I know.

02:44:07.000 He's all about electric.

02:44:08.000 I'm being facetious.

02:44:09.000 I think if you got a hold of one of them Roadsters when they come out, you'd be all in.

02:44:12.000 I don't doubt that.

02:44:14.000 Keep in mind, keep in mind.

02:44:15.000 I'm telling you, I'm being willingly stubborn about this.

02:44:18.000 I know.

02:44:18.000 I see it.

02:44:19.000 I get it.

02:44:20.000 Dude, I'm right with you.

02:44:21.000 A lot of my friends are right with you, too.

02:44:22.000 A lot of my friends are like, no, no, no, I need an exhaust note.

02:44:25.000 Yeah.

02:44:25.000 I need a rumble.

02:44:27.000 I need to feel it.

02:44:28.000 Yeah.

02:44:28.000 I get it.

02:44:29.000 I get it.

02:44:30.000 It's magical, man.

02:44:31.000 There's something to it that's undeniable.

02:44:33.000 It's also very American.

02:44:35.000 Yeah.

02:44:37.000 A V8. Woo!

02:44:39.000 That's American as fuck. 1.00

02:44:41.000 When I drive my Corvette, my 65 Corvette, I feel like a goddamn bald eagle. 1.00

02:44:45.000 You know? 0.99

02:44:46.000 It's like, that's as American as it gets. 0.77

02:44:49.000 65 Corvette with side pipes.

02:44:52.000 Yeah.

02:44:54.000 You can't beat it, man.

02:44:55.000 No.

02:44:56.000 You can't beat it. 1.00

02:44:57.000 You can shoot and beat it. 0.99

02:44:58.000 That's up there, too. 0.99

02:45:00.000 That's another thing that people don't want to hear.

02:45:02.000 They don't want to hear that, but there's a thrill to shooting.

02:45:05.000 I mean, think about it.

02:45:06.000 Like, I've taken some courses, like a course I take in New Mexico.

02:45:10.000 We're shooting out to 600, sometimes 1,000 meters.

02:45:14.000 That's crazy.

02:45:15.000 Naughty!

02:45:15.000 But so far.

02:45:17.000 But then you also talk about how beautiful it is.

02:45:21.000 People love long-range shooting.

02:45:23.000 They get very addicted.

02:45:24.000 I'm getting there.

02:45:25.000 When you get to 1,000 yards, what's the amount of time between boom and dink?

02:45:29.000 Man, it's extremely noticeable.

02:45:33.000 But here's where we're really trippy.

02:45:34.000 I don't know the exact seconds because it all depends on...

02:45:37.000 You're talking about different bullet speeds.

02:45:39.000 We should tell people what dink means. 0.91

02:45:40.000 You're hitting a metal target.

02:45:41.000 Still target, yeah.

02:45:42.000 So...

02:45:44.000 The crazy thing is when you're watching it through your optic, you see the impact.

02:45:49.000 The vapor trail.

02:45:50.000 Yes, you see the vapor trail and then you see the impact, but you don't hear anything.

02:45:53.000 And then you see it, ding!

02:45:56.000 And you're like, whoa.

02:45:58.000 It takes time for it to come back to you.

02:46:00.000 Yeah, it can sound travel slower.

02:46:01.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:46:03.000 Because the bullet's literally traveling faster than the speed of sound.

02:46:06.000 People don't realize that.

02:46:07.000 And it's nutty, man.

02:46:09.000 And then you take that, you couple that with being in a beautiful environment.

02:46:13.000 Oh my gosh, you can't beat it.

02:46:15.000 Yeah, when I've shot at the range, I've really only shot rifles up to like 200 yards, and that you hear boom dink.

02:46:24.000 So there is a difference though.

02:46:25.000 It's not instantaneous.

02:46:26.000 You still get the delay.

02:46:28.000 Because otherwise you wouldn't even hear the dink.

02:46:30.000 You would just be drowned out by the boom.

02:46:32.000 Which is how, which a lot of times is like, that's how suppressors work.

02:46:37.000 Because people think suppressors make things super, super, super quiet.

02:46:40.000 They really don't.

02:46:42.000 Because all the suppressor doing is it's mitigating the noise at the muzzle.

02:46:46.000 And people don't realize that when a bullet breaks the sound barrier, you get a crack.

02:46:51.000 So when you shoot a gun, typically speaking, you're hearing two sounds at once.

02:46:56.000 We're good to go.

02:47:11.000 All you're hearing is the sound of the action if it's not a bolt action.

02:47:15.000 And then you're hearing the bullet break the sound barrier.

02:47:17.000 Right.

02:47:18.000 And so it's kind of cool, actually, when you hear it.

02:47:22.000 Now, granted, you don't want to do that too much because it's still damaging to your ears.

02:47:25.000 That's what a lot of people realize.

02:47:26.000 What about a suppressor with subsomic ammo?

02:47:29.000 So that's the only one where it actually gets really damn quiet.

02:47:32.000 But the problem is, unless you're shooting a bolt action, the sound of that bolt smacking back and forth is loud as hell, too.

02:47:40.000 But what about a pistol?

02:47:41.000 Same thing.

02:47:43.000 Because you get the sound of the slide racking back and forth.

02:47:47.000 So unless you're shooting a bolt action, you want to get as quiet as possible, use a bolt action.

02:47:52.000 A bolt action with subsonic rounds.

02:47:54.000 The opposite of a suppressor is a muzzle brake.

02:47:57.000 And I have a rifle with a muzzle brake, and it mitigates the kick.

02:48:00.000 Yeah, but it also...

02:48:02.000 Woo, it's so loud!

02:48:03.000 People get mad.

02:48:04.000 Yeah, because you're outside of the cone of the blast.

02:48:08.000 Right.

02:48:08.000 And so everybody on the side of you is getting hit by that blast.

02:48:11.000 They get fucked up by that blast. 1.00

02:48:12.000 It's nuts, man. 1.00

02:48:13.000 They're really loud.

02:48:14.000 But it makes shooting a gun so much more enjoyable.

02:48:16.000 Yeah, it's like 50% less recoil.

02:48:18.000 It really feels like it.

02:48:20.000 So it's like either one.

02:48:21.000 Because suppressors do the same thing.

02:48:23.000 Suppressors mitigate the recoil too.

02:48:25.000 So you can go suppressor or you can go...

02:48:27.000 And I tell people all the time, the whole suppressor thing, I think that's a health issue.

02:48:33.000 I think so too.

02:48:33.000 I think it's a health issue.

02:48:34.000 For your ears.

02:48:35.000 Yeah!

02:48:36.000 It's loud, man. 0.98

02:48:37.000 They have this ignorant idea that people are going to sneak up on people and shoot them and no one's going to hear anything. 0.97

02:48:42.000 You mean the same way people do with knives? 0.99

02:48:45.000 Yeah.

02:48:45.000 You can buy them everywhere.

02:48:47.000 But I mean, they think it's going to be like the movies.

02:48:50.000 It does not happen like that at all.

02:48:52.000 It's pretty loud.

02:48:54.000 Like I told you, when I shoot suppressed, I still wear ear protection.

02:48:59.000 People in my videos are like, why are you wearing ear protection?

02:49:03.000 Because it's still loud.

02:49:04.000 In Europe, they hunt with suppressors, and they do it out of courtesy for the other people.

02:49:08.000 Yeah, I mean, look, it really would be good for people if they had suppressors.

02:49:12.000 But it's a thing in California.

02:49:13.000 I think they're totally illegal.

02:49:15.000 Oh, no, you can't suppress them in California. 0.97

02:49:16.000 But I think it's also an ignorant thing. 0.95

02:49:18.000 I think it's people that don't understand guns. 0.63

02:49:21.000 Because you have people making policies based on movies.

02:49:24.000 Right.

02:49:25.000 Exactly.

02:49:26.000 Movies.

02:49:28.000 Well, in all due defense, this is where we actually make the movies.

02:49:33.000 They're very influenced by them here.

02:49:35.000 Yeah.

02:49:36.000 They used to make the movies here.

02:49:38.000 They're making less of them and less of them here because of taxes.

02:49:43.000 California's eating itself.

02:49:44.000 Yeah, it is now.

02:49:45.000 I don't understand that.

02:49:46.000 It's such a beautiful place.

02:49:48.000 It is beautiful.

02:49:48.000 It'll be alright.

02:49:49.000 It'll bounce back. 0.91

02:49:51.000 Maybe as soon as I get the fuck out. 0.93

02:49:55.000 I don't know. 0.83

02:49:56.000 I don't know. 0.99

02:49:57.000 But I think the suppressor thing is a really dumb argument.

02:50:00.000 But they're trying to do almost everything to limit the amount of options that someone who wants to have a gun has here.

02:50:07.000 Now, see, that's another thing that people don't talk about.

02:50:08.000 Because people are talking about, oh, it's just a law to make it a little bit harder. 0.99

02:50:12.000 Well, that shit aggregates. 0.99

02:50:14.000 And at a certain point, what you start doing, you start pricing people out of the market. 1.00

02:50:17.000 Right.

02:50:18.000 And so if you start adding, because all these laws, they're not free.

02:50:22.000 Mm-hmm.

02:50:23.000 Background checks aren't free.

02:50:24.000 People don't realize that.

02:50:25.000 They're not free.

02:50:26.000 So you have all of these little fees and taxes and all this stuff.

02:50:31.000 You and I are not going to have a problem paying for them.

02:50:33.000 But you know who will? 0.90

02:50:34.000 People who live in shitty environments and don't have a lot of money. 0.67

02:50:37.000 That's who's going to have a problem buying guns for protection, who arguably probably need them more.

02:50:42.000 And people don't understand or think about that.

02:50:44.000 Or people don't understand, oh, well, these are just reasonable laws, and there's nothing unreasonable.

02:50:49.000 Yeah, but see, here's the problem.

02:50:50.000 You stack them on top of each other, it just becomes more of a barrier to firearm ownership.

02:50:56.000 A lot of times, a lot of these laws are designed to make it so hard and annoying to own a gun that you just don't want to do it.

02:51:02.000 It's just too much.

02:51:03.000 And people are like, why don't you like mandated training?

02:51:06.000 Well, because I've already seen what they've done with other laws.

02:51:09.000 So all that's going to happen is they're going to start off with saying, okay, you need three hours of mandated training.

02:51:14.000 Then it's going to be four.

02:51:15.000 Then it's going to be seven.

02:51:17.000 Then another shooting will happen, 20. Now, as somebody who's an entrepreneur who can, generally speaking, make their schedule, maybe they may be able to do that.

02:51:26.000 Somebody working two jobs?

02:51:29.000 Or five to nine.

02:51:31.000 There's no way they're going to be able to satisfy that.

02:51:34.000 And people don't think about the real implications of that.

02:51:37.000 And even then, even from an inner city perspective, people who are talking about policing that we police the inner city too much, well, where do you think they're going to go and enforce these laws?

02:51:53.000 If we have more of them, where do you think they're going to enforce them?

02:51:56.000 They're not going to Malibu to enforce gun laws.

02:52:01.000 They're enforcing them in South Central.

02:52:04.000 Like, I mean, that just is what it is.

02:52:06.000 So people don't think about the actual real consequences of these laws.

02:52:10.000 They look at them and say, oh, well, it's not that bad.

02:52:12.000 It's pretty reasonable.

02:52:14.000 No?

02:52:14.000 Okay, what about the other 10, 11, 12 other laws on top of that that were considered just reasonable?

02:52:19.000 I think so many people are just buying the party narrative, whatever the party narrative is.

02:52:24.000 Whether it's the party narrative that we don't need guns, guns should be eliminated, any guns are bad.

02:52:29.000 They don't have this nuanced, very detailed perspective on what gun ownership actually is.

02:52:36.000 The reason they don't is because of the way we have the conversation. 0.99

02:52:41.000 Right now, the conversation is on their side, we're on their side and we throw shit at each other. 0.94

02:52:46.000 But the problem also is Who controls most of the mass media? 0.99

02:52:52.000 Liberal people.

02:52:53.000 Exactly.

02:52:54.000 That is a problem.

02:52:55.000 That's why you're shadow banned.

02:52:58.000 That's what it is.

02:52:59.000 That is what it is, man.

02:53:00.000 Pretty much, man.

02:53:01.000 It's nuts, man.

02:53:02.000 I look at stuff and I'm like...

02:53:04.000 I look at my numbers and then I look at it compared to people who are in, I don't know, like tech.

02:53:10.000 They make tech videos and stuff like that.

02:53:12.000 And I'm like, our numbers are on par, but I guarantee all our videos are monetized.

02:53:16.000 Well, shadow banning is real.

02:53:18.000 Yeah.

02:53:18.000 You know, it's real on Instagram.

02:53:19.000 It's real on YouTube.

02:53:21.000 It's real on Twitter.

02:53:21.000 It's real on all those things.

02:53:22.000 Yeah.

02:53:23.000 And there's really not much that we can do.

02:53:26.000 I mean, I know what I do.

02:53:28.000 I just pivot.

02:53:29.000 Yeah.

02:53:30.000 You know, if one thing gets shut, it's happened before.

02:53:32.000 Like, they'll just keep shutting doors on me, and I just try to pivot and figure it out.

02:53:36.000 But now what I've done is, like, which emphasizes the importance of having your own independent platform.

02:53:42.000 It does.

02:53:43.000 And we just hit three hours, believe it or not. 0.99

02:53:46.000 Oh, shit, really? 0.99

02:53:47.000 It's already 3.30, man. 0.99

02:53:48.000 But I just want to say, I think you're doing a great job.

02:53:50.000 And I think, you know, out of all the people that are promoting guns, and you do it in, in my opinion, the most reasonable and well thought out perspective.

02:53:59.000 I appreciate you very much.

02:54:00.000 Thanks, brother.

02:54:01.000 Thanks for being here, sir.

02:54:02.000 Thank you very much.

02:54:03.000 Goodbye, friends.

02:54:04.000 Bye, everybody. 1.00

02:54:08.000 I never understand how fucking ass they play. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 23, 2020

Joe Rogan Experience #1496 - Colion Noir

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