The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1641 - Matty Matheson

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:00:05.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

00:00:14.000 Good?

00:00:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:00:18.000 The first thing I say is a buttered asshole. 1.00

00:00:21.000 For you, for anybody else, it would be a real issue. 1.00

00:00:23.000 For you, it's on brand.

00:00:24.000 I'm on brand.

00:00:25.000 Yeah, you're always on brand.

00:00:26.000 I am a brand. 0.85

00:00:27.000 Dude, speaking of on brand, you fucked this podcast up because you stepped in here with some Franklin's brisket. 0.97

00:00:33.000 My God, sir. 0.98

00:00:35.000 You made everybody, you put everybody into a sedated state. 0.99

00:00:40.000 Franklin's brisket, by the way, may I say, that was my first time eating it, and the fucking hype is real. 0.99

00:00:45.000 The hype is real. 0.99

00:00:46.000 It's a beautiful thing.

00:00:47.000 Aaron, beautiful person.

00:00:48.000 Beautiful brisket.

00:00:49.000 The brisket's real.

00:00:50.000 You're welcome.

00:00:50.000 I'm trying to slow you down.

00:00:52.000 Slow me down.

00:00:53.000 I'm trying to slow you down a little bit.

00:00:54.000 Bringing you down to my level.

00:00:55.000 I'm a slow guy.

00:00:56.000 I like to move.

00:00:57.000 I'm like a sea turtle.

00:00:58.000 You got a lot of energy though, dude.

00:00:59.000 I got a lot of energy packed up in here.

00:01:01.000 I watch your show.

00:01:02.000 I'm like a sugar packet.

00:01:04.000 I'm a fan of your program.

00:01:05.000 I enjoy what you do.

00:01:06.000 Cheers.

00:01:07.000 Hey.

00:01:08.000 Cheers.

00:01:09.000 To your health.

00:01:09.000 To yours.

00:01:12.000 That's hot!

00:01:12.000 Little hot.

00:01:13.000 That's fucking hot! 1.00

00:01:15.000 This is a boiling pot of fucking coffee! 1.00

00:01:19.000 Coffee, boys! 1.00

00:01:22.000 Okay.

00:01:23.000 So the best brisket I've ever had up until today is Terry Black's.

00:01:27.000 Yeah.

00:01:27.000 And Franklin's is just as good.

00:01:30.000 There you go.

00:01:30.000 It is not better.

00:01:32.000 It is amazing.

00:01:33.000 I don't think there's better.

00:01:34.000 I think we were talking about this.

00:01:35.000 Better isn't always best. 1.00

00:01:36.000 There's a level of barbecue that you're just like, holy fucking shit. 1.00

00:01:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:41.000 And there's quite a few places like that. 1.00

00:01:42.000 There's a lot of holy shits. 1.00

00:01:43.000 There's a lot of holy shits. 1.00

00:01:45.000 Franklin's is holy shit. 1.00

00:01:46.000 Franklin is holy shit. 1.00

00:01:47.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:01:48.000 Franklin makes you want to shit your pants, rub your feet. 1.00

00:01:51.000 So juicy. 0.99

00:01:52.000 Juicy.

00:01:53.000 Crispy the barky.

00:01:54.000 Oh my god, so good.

00:01:55.000 The rendered fat within the molecules.

00:01:59.000 And I only had two pieces, but I'm like, brr.

00:02:01.000 You're sleepy.

00:02:02.000 We've got to bring you back. 1.00

00:02:03.000 You've got to drink some of your hot fucking coffee piss. 1.00

00:02:07.000 Black Rifle. 1.00

00:02:08.000 Black Rifle. 1.00

00:02:08.000 That's a fucking shout out. 1.00

00:02:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:10.000 That's a shout out. 1.00

00:02:12.000 I just want to ask you a quick question.

00:02:14.000 This is an easy question.

00:02:15.000 Okay, Matty.

00:02:16.000 Have you ever listened to my podcast?

00:02:18.000 No.

00:02:19.000 I have a podcast called Powerful Truth Angels.

00:02:21.000 No.

00:02:22.000 Okay?

00:02:22.000 I have a podcast called Powerful Truth Angels.

00:02:24.000 The name's amazing.

00:02:25.000 It's incredible.

00:02:26.000 Do you have a t-shirt?

00:02:26.000 I made it.

00:02:27.000 This is our first one we've ever made.

00:02:29.000 I sharpied it.

00:02:30.000 Because I was like, I'm going on like the biggest, this is like the, what is it, the Oprah of podcasts?

00:02:36.000 Bro-pra. 0.99

00:02:36.000 The bro-pra. 0.99

00:02:37.000 The bro-pra. 0.99

00:02:38.000 So I was just like, I need to wear a shirt because I have a podcast with my co-host Two Tone.

00:02:43.000 And I just wanted to quickly, I know this is a big podcast.

00:02:47.000 It's doing well.

00:02:48.000 It's doing pretty good.

00:02:49.000 It's doing well.

00:02:49.000 And so I just wanted to take this chance to just- Shout out your own show.

00:02:54.000 Shout out my own show because I just thought that this is, you know, I won't talk about it again.

00:02:59.000 Do I want a picture of you with the angel wings and maybe some sort of a weapon?

00:03:03.000 Yeah, like a crossbow, bazooka, grenade launcher.

00:03:07.000 Yeah, grenade launcher.

00:03:08.000 Flame laser eyes.

00:03:10.000 And maybe some of them, the old school runner's goggles.

00:03:14.000 Runner goggles. 0.99

00:03:15.000 You know, what the fuck is that guy's name? 0.99

00:03:17.000 What, Larry? 0.99

00:03:18.000 And Tyson?

00:03:19.000 The Bosworth.

00:03:20.000 Brian Bosworth.

00:03:21.000 Remember, he used to have those goggles from back in the day.

00:03:23.000 Terminator goggles.

00:03:24.000 The Terminator?

00:03:25.000 Oh, like just the little Oakley guys.

00:03:27.000 Yeah, like...

00:03:28.000 Windstripes.

00:03:29.000 Tactical.

00:03:30.000 Tactical.

00:03:30.000 Roca Tactical.

00:03:32.000 Yeah.

00:03:32.000 If you were shooting guns.

00:03:33.000 If I was a tactical person shooting guns in the mountain range.

00:03:36.000 Those are the kind of glasses you...

00:03:37.000 And I would have those to protect me because anywhere I looked, I would be protected from the sun.

00:03:40.000 Always a perfect pitch in temperature of color.

00:03:43.000 Maybe like a yellow tint.

00:03:45.000 Those?

00:03:45.000 No!

00:03:48.000 Is he the guy in Cold Steel?

00:03:49.000 No.

00:03:50.000 What was his movie?

00:03:50.000 He was in like a biker movie, wasn't he?

00:03:52.000 He was a famous football player who blew his shoulder out.

00:03:55.000 Look at that guy.

00:03:55.000 And then he became a movie star for like one movie.

00:03:57.000 The boss! 1.00

00:03:58.000 What a handsome bastard though, huh? 1.00

00:04:00.000 Oh my god, look at that chin. 1.00

00:04:01.000 I wish my dick was as nice as that chin. 1.00

00:04:03.000 Those right there. 1.00

00:04:04.000 Those goggles.

00:04:06.000 Dice Clay has some of those too.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, the dice man.

00:04:09.000 But those kind of goggles.

00:04:10.000 Like you with those kind of goggles and a grenade launcher.

00:04:13.000 Look at the flat top.

00:04:14.000 A flat top's great.

00:04:16.000 Did you ever have a flat top?

00:04:17.000 I feel you were a flat top guy.

00:04:18.000 Maybe.

00:04:19.000 I had a crew cut.

00:04:20.000 I had a crew cut.

00:04:21.000 I never got it flat, though.

00:04:22.000 No.

00:04:23.000 Never truly flat.

00:04:24.000 No.

00:04:25.000 It takes a lot to go all the way flat.

00:04:26.000 Yeah, it's a weird look, the flat top.

00:04:29.000 I feel like black guys can pull it off really well.

00:04:32.000 Chris Rock had a nice flat top back in the day.

00:04:35.000 Great guy.

00:04:36.000 Kid and Play.

00:04:36.000 Remember, he had the real tall one?

00:04:38.000 Play had the big one.

00:04:38.000 That's the biggest one.

00:04:39.000 That's the one, I feel.

00:04:40.000 That is the one.

00:04:41.000 Super high top.

00:04:42.000 The super high tops.

00:04:44.000 It's so nice.

00:04:46.000 I'm glad you acknowledge Powerful Truth Angels.

00:04:48.000 Are you a graffiti guy?

00:04:50.000 Are you into graffiti?

00:04:51.000 I enjoy it if it's consensual.

00:04:54.000 Yes.

00:04:54.000 I think there's a problem with graffiti.

00:04:55.000 It's like, I have amazing art that I'm putting on your fucking building. 0.99

00:04:58.000 Yes! 1.00

00:04:59.000 And you're like, hey, dick. 1.00

00:05:00.000 Don't fucking spray shirt on my house or my building or my alleyway. 1.00

00:05:04.000 It's an asshole move. 1.00

00:05:05.000 It's an asshole move. 1.00

00:05:06.000 But sometimes they're super talented artists. 1.00

00:05:08.000 Yes.

00:05:09.000 So my partner, Alex, on the podcast, he's an iconic graffiti writer.

00:05:14.000 Like an OG Venice crew.

00:05:16.000 Oh, one of those guys.

00:05:17.000 Yeah, like an OG dude from Venice.

00:05:19.000 And that's all I want to say.

00:05:21.000 Graffiti is, you know, problematic because you're destroying property, but it is a beautiful art form. 0.98

00:05:28.000 Yeah, if you have like an abandoned building and someone gives you the green light, fuck yeah. 0.99

00:05:32.000 Go do it. 0.98

00:05:32.000 Yeah, no, I think there's a lot of really dope graffiti artists. 0.98

00:05:36.000 They make amazing stuff.

00:05:37.000 There are.

00:05:38.000 Wasn't there an issue where, it wasn't really graffiti, it was more of a mural.

00:05:43.000 Someone had painted a mural and then someone bought the building.

00:05:46.000 I think it was in Brooklyn.

00:05:47.000 Really? 1.00

00:05:47.000 And they just like, fuck this and they painted it over and like, everybody shit their pants. 1.00

00:05:52.000 They're like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:05:53.000 That was art. 1.00

00:05:53.000 Yeah, it was art. 1.00

00:05:54.000 That was art.

00:05:55.000 You just took down the Picasso of the graffiti.

00:05:57.000 But that's the question, right?

00:05:58.000 If you buy a building and the building is covered with beautiful art, are you obligated to keep it looking exactly the same? 0.97

00:06:04.000 Because that doesn't seem very fucking American. 0.97

00:06:06.000 No. 0.97

00:06:06.000 I think you can do whatever you want when you buy a building. 0.97

00:06:09.000 Yeah, just take a picture of it and send it to the guy who made the art.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, take a picture and NFT it.

00:06:13.000 Treat it like it's a sand castle.

00:06:14.000 Good job, but when it rains, that's a wrap.

00:06:18.000 Me buying the building is when the rain comes.

00:06:19.000 I like the notepad.

00:06:20.000 This is such a nice...

00:06:21.000 I really am excited to be here.

00:06:23.000 I'm excited to have you here.

00:06:24.000 And I want to say, when I was a young kid, and at the beginning of the UFC, my family were very into the UFC at the beginning.

00:06:34.000 And they still are to this day.

00:06:36.000 But me and my friends it was amazing my parents used to we would watch them at the very beginning like the hoist Gracie and the tanks and the early shit like you'd have like a 500 pound sumo guy fighting a karate person that's 120 pounds and We used to fight my parents used to like our all of our parents friends They would have all the kids and we would have to after the UFC we would all have to fight each other It was like battle royal And me and my two brothers and then all of our friends would always be over there,

00:07:02.000 and we'd have to fight each other after.

00:07:04.000 We were all ramped up. 0.97

00:07:04.000 My parents would just be all around drinking, having a good time, watching their kids beat the shit out of each other. 0.97

00:07:10.000 That seems very Canadian. 0.97

00:07:12.000 Yeah, it was nice.

00:07:13.000 You know, a 10-year-old just fighting like a 16-year-old, and you're just like, you know, after watching Hoist Gracie chokehold somebody.

00:07:21.000 I don't know.

00:07:21.000 Do you maybe think that some of that early head trauma is responsible for your outrageous behavior?

00:07:27.000 I think there's just a lot of damage up here.

00:07:31.000 There's a lot of damage.

00:07:32.000 There's a lot of shaken up.

00:07:33.000 I'm like a bag of milk, you know, a Canadian bag.

00:07:36.000 There's a lot of stuff inside and it wants to get out, but it moves around.

00:07:40.000 I've never had a black eye in my life.

00:07:45.000 Really?

00:07:45.000 Never.

00:07:46.000 And I've been in a lot of fights and I've been punched in the face a million times.

00:07:50.000 And for some reason, I've never had a black eye.

00:07:54.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:07:54.000 It is.

00:07:55.000 And I remember one time, a New Year's Eve party, I was hammered before, you know, this is early shit, and I got so drunk, and I was so funny, and I started, I was like, I want a fucking black eye, and I told everyone at the party was allowed to punch me in the face as hard as they could. 0.98

00:08:14.000 Jesus Christ, Maddie. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Line the fuck up, you losers. 1.00

00:08:17.000 And I was like, you fucking losers. 1.00

00:08:19.000 You fucking losers. 1.00

00:08:21.000 You guys don't know how to punch. 1.00

00:08:22.000 You can't punch. 1.00

00:08:23.000 You can't punch me in the face. 1.00

00:08:25.000 And I would like fucking fuck with them. 1.00

00:08:26.000 And then I'd be like, punch me in the face. 1.00

00:08:28.000 And then at the end of the night, I had all these welts all over my face. 0.99

00:08:31.000 But nobody still got me clean in the face where I got the fucking black eye. 0.98

00:08:35.000 Wow. 0.98

00:08:36.000 And I don't know why I'm just going.

00:08:38.000 I'm just jumping.

00:08:39.000 Joe, we're jumping.

00:08:40.000 Oh.

00:08:40.000 I'm fine with jumping.

00:08:42.000 We're gonna jump around for a little bit.

00:08:44.000 And I used to give my friends black eyes for their birthdays, unbeknownst to them.

00:08:48.000 So I would sneak up. 0.99

00:08:49.000 If it was your birthday back in the day, I would sneak up and fucking pop you in the fucking face, and then you get a black eye from me for your birthday. 1.00

00:08:55.000 This is what happens when you grow up in the woods. 1.00

00:08:57.000 People get really bored. 0.93

00:08:59.000 The kids beat the shit out of each other in front of the parents while they're drunk. 1.00

00:09:03.000 You're asking people to punch you. 1.00

00:09:04.000 You punch them when they're not asking for it. 0.95

00:09:06.000 What is this? 0.91

00:09:07.000 No, what's happening?

00:09:09.000 Yes.

00:09:12.000 Sparring?

00:09:12.000 Look at that!

00:09:12.000 Almost did a backhand!

00:09:13.000 Look at that! 1.00

00:09:15.000 Well, the problem is those fucking headgear, they can't see shit with those headgears. 1.00

00:09:18.000 They can't see anything. 1.00

00:09:19.000 Look at that!

00:09:20.000 Oh my goodness. 0.96

00:09:20.000 Big overhand, a kick to the groin. 0.96

00:09:24.000 Oh, the kid's just spinning around like a top. 0.71

00:09:26.000 Look at that!

00:09:27.000 I think he felled out.

00:09:29.000 Look at that!

00:09:30.000 The spin kick and the backhand!

00:09:33.000 These kids can't hurt each other. 1.00

00:09:39.000 They should take the fucking headgear off so they can at least see what they're doing. 1.00

00:09:42.000 They should. 1.00

00:09:43.000 Because they're not hitting hard.

00:09:44.000 They should take everything off.

00:09:45.000 There's your bare knuckle.

00:09:46.000 You can't hit hard enough.

00:09:47.000 My son is five and I swear he could break my nose.

00:09:50.000 Well, the thing about hitting, you could poke someone in the eye.

00:09:54.000 That could be real.

00:09:55.000 Yes, that's bad. 0.99

00:09:55.000 So I don't think they should take the gloves off, but they definitely should take the headgear off, because those are like fucking 10-ounce gloves. 0.99

00:10:00.000 These kids weigh 20 pounds. 0.99

00:10:02.000 They're not going to hurt each other with those gloves.

00:10:03.000 I love the running and the kicking.

00:10:04.000 That's like me fighting it now.

00:10:06.000 Jesus Christ.

00:10:07.000 That's how I would fight.

00:10:08.000 That's good.

00:10:08.000 Look at the guy laughing.

00:10:09.000 Look at the dude.

00:10:11.000 The dude who's the traitor is laughing.

00:10:13.000 Oh my god.

00:10:14.000 That's it.

00:10:15.000 These kids are going to war.

00:10:16.000 He's like, get up!

00:10:17.000 Was he taunting him?

00:10:18.000 He was taunting him! 1.00

00:10:18.000 Get the fuck up! 1.00

00:10:19.000 Look at that! 1.00

00:10:20.000 Get the fuck up again! 0.99

00:10:21.000 One more time. 1.00

00:10:22.000 White Helmet's fucking laying work. 1.00

00:10:23.000 Oh, White Helmet's got some moves. 1.00

00:10:25.000 He's got some moves.

00:10:26.000 I like that spin that he does.

00:10:28.000 He's got some talent.

00:10:29.000 And he's shorter.

00:10:31.000 Look at that guy.

00:10:32.000 White Helmet's my guy. 0.98

00:10:33.000 What?

00:10:37.000 Look at it!

00:10:38.000 That's perfect.

00:10:39.000 It's a good time to learn because you can't hurt each other.

00:10:42.000 And so you're accustomed to getting hit.

00:10:44.000 Because as you get older and bigger and stronger and faster, it's scarier so you're hesitant and you don't learn as well.

00:10:51.000 No.

00:10:51.000 You don't take in a lot when you're older.

00:10:53.000 And you're stuck in your ways.

00:10:56.000 I'm slower.

00:10:57.000 I feel like I'm slower, but I have dad strength now.

00:10:59.000 I feel the dad strength is real with the children.

00:11:01.000 I have three kids now, and I'm just like...

00:11:03.000 Well, if your kid's five, it's real.

00:11:04.000 Yeah.

00:11:05.000 They're little tiny people.

00:11:06.000 And you gotta grab them.

00:11:07.000 And Mac is a thick boy, and I gotta grab him.

00:11:09.000 I call him a stack of pancakes. 0.99

00:11:11.000 He's got a big butt, too. 1.00

00:11:13.000 And I grab him, and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:11:15.000 Because he gets all ramped up, you know? 0.99

00:11:16.000 And I gotta pick him up, shake him like a bag of potatoes or something.

00:11:19.000 Do you make him fight around drunk people?

00:11:20.000 No.

00:11:21.000 Not yet?

00:11:21.000 No, I don't.

00:11:22.000 We keep every...

00:11:22.000 No, no.

00:11:23.000 I hate drunk people now.

00:11:24.000 It's just like...

00:11:25.000 You're sober.

00:11:26.000 I'm Sobs.

00:11:27.000 Yeah, Sobs. 1.00

00:11:27.000 When did you get sober? 1.00

00:11:29.000 Joe.

00:11:29.000 Joe, Joe, Joe.

00:11:30.000 When did I get sober?

00:11:32.000 That's not a great question.

00:11:34.000 Guys like you who get sober have a wonderful...

00:11:37.000 Just this year?

00:11:38.000 No.

00:11:39.000 2000...

00:11:40.000 What's like nine years ago?

00:11:42.000 2002?

00:11:43.000 2002. Nine years ago is 2002!

00:11:46.000 I knew there was a two.

00:11:49.000 Big JR with the mathematics!

00:11:51.000 Let's go!

00:11:52.000 Excuse me, 12. Yeah, I'm like, nine years ago.

00:11:56.000 I forget what year it is, bro.

00:11:57.000 1997. I'm living in the past.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, no, like nine years ago, I had an intervention to stop the brutality that I was putting onto myself.

00:12:06.000 What were you doing?

00:12:06.000 What was your drug of choice?

00:12:07.000 My drug of choice?

00:12:08.000 Cocaine!

00:12:13.000 I just wanted...

00:12:14.000 I wanted everything. 0.99

00:12:16.000 I was a garbage head. 0.99

00:12:17.000 I would do MDMA, I would do shrooms, I would do acid, I would do... 0.96

00:12:21.000 Want it all at once?

00:12:22.000 I would, yeah.

00:12:23.000 Everything.

00:12:23.000 Whiskey, a lot of whiskey.

00:12:26.000 Make me thirsty.

00:12:27.000 I could chug a 26er of whiskey in like two pulls.

00:12:30.000 Really?

00:12:30.000 Oh yeah.

00:12:31.000 That's not a smart thing to do though, right?

00:12:33.000 We can agree.

00:12:34.000 No, no, no.

00:12:35.000 The second one isn't smart at like 7 a.m.

00:12:38.000 But the first one at like midnight when you do like 10 shots, like you would drink...

00:12:42.000 At the end, my drink of choice.

00:12:45.000 So my drink of choice was a pint glass.

00:12:47.000 So a 16-ounce pint full of ice filled with vodka and three limes.

00:12:53.000 So then I would drink those until I was feeling like swirly.

00:12:57.000 Real swirly, so I'd drink like six, seven, eight of those.

00:13:01.000 Then I'd be like, let's have a beer.

00:13:03.000 Crack a beer. 0.99

00:13:04.000 Then I'd drink like fucking a lot of those, and then I'd get into the whiskey. 0.98

00:13:09.000 But on the second vodka, I'd probably do a couple bumpers, and then I'd just start bumping, and then I'm bumping, and then I'm bagged in, and then I'm deep in the bag. 0.99

00:13:18.000 You're Hunter S. Thompson.

00:13:20.000 Bro, I would want to feel like my bones were outside of my body, and I was like two people.

00:13:29.000 I was like my skin and the muscles, and then the bones were over here, and I was like, buddy, let's do a bump.

00:13:34.000 And then you're talking to your buddy, and it's just your bones.

00:13:37.000 It's your skeleton.

00:13:38.000 I would want to do everything.

00:13:40.000 Because I started early.

00:13:42.000 The first time I did, I started early.

00:13:45.000 Twelve?

00:13:46.000 Twelve.

00:13:46.000 Yeah, like grade 8 was the first time I did acid.

00:13:49.000 Whoa.

00:13:50.000 Which is scary.

00:13:51.000 And my parents, like...

00:13:52.000 What is that?

00:13:53.000 13?

00:13:54.000 Yeah, like 12, 13. 13. So, like, I drank...

00:13:56.000 The first drink I ever had, the first alcoholic beverage I ever had was Southern Comfort.

00:14:00.000 Jeez.

00:14:01.000 And me and my friend Kylie got wasted in, like, grade 7 secretly.

00:14:05.000 And then I started, like, smoking some smokes.

00:14:09.000 Stealing, you know, from the uncle's drawers.

00:14:11.000 Steal a pack of carton, a little carton of smokies.

00:14:13.000 And then, you know...

00:14:16.000 Yeah, just worked my way up.

00:14:18.000 Wow.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, just work your way up.

00:14:20.000 And every day?

00:14:23.000 At the end, yeah.

00:14:24.000 So by the end of it, you know, like high school, party boy.

00:14:28.000 You know, like super party boy.

00:14:29.000 High school, like, you know, fun.

00:14:33.000 My house was the hub.

00:14:35.000 My house was the hub.

00:14:36.000 My house was the open door policy in the neighborhood.

00:14:38.000 Me and my brothers were like two years apart.

00:14:41.000 So we were like the full crew. 0.98

00:14:42.000 My older brother was a psychopath. 0.99

00:14:44.000 I was a psychopath. 1.00

00:14:45.000 My little brother was a psychopath. 0.99

00:14:46.000 So we were like the Matheson brothers.

00:14:48.000 And so my house was, and my parents are beautiful, East Coast loving, food on the table kind of family. 0.99

00:14:56.000 You know, not like this, like, demonic, psycho-toxic shit. 0.99

00:14:59.000 So they were happy to have everybody coming over. 0.99

00:15:01.000 Our place was the place.

00:15:02.000 You know, every Sunday there'd be, you know, football games on and barbecue and cooking, but it would just be like, you know, everyone was there.

00:15:10.000 Yeah.

00:15:11.000 And, you know, smoking weed and doing shrooms and acid and all that fun stuff, you know?

00:15:18.000 It was like the 70s.

00:15:19.000 Like, Dazed and Confused, you know?

00:15:23.000 Dark Side of the Moon.

00:15:24.000 Nine years ago, in 2002...

00:15:28.000 Yeah.

00:15:29.000 He just decided that's a wrap.

00:15:32.000 No.

00:15:32.000 So, you know, the journey.

00:15:34.000 The journey is so long, you know?

00:15:36.000 Going to college, getting into, like, chef school, doing all that stuff.

00:15:41.000 Chefs party hard.

00:15:42.000 Chefs party hard.

00:15:43.000 I learned that from partying with Bourdain.

00:15:45.000 Yeah, I bet.

00:15:46.000 He would go so hard.

00:15:48.000 Well, it's just a maintenance thing, and it's like a constant thing, and it's just like, you build it up, and it's just- It's part of the culture, too.

00:15:54.000 Well, the thing about it is Valhalla.

00:15:58.000 We want to take care of you.

00:16:00.000 We want you to be in heaven.

00:16:01.000 We want you to...

00:16:03.000 Our idea of hospitality is that you are 100% taken care of.

00:16:07.000 We're feeding you grapes.

00:16:08.000 We're shoving meat into you. 0.96

00:16:10.000 We're shoving, you know, meat inside of you. 0.94

00:16:13.000 We're doing everything.

00:16:15.000 Drink. 0.89

00:16:16.000 Drink, grapes, the fellatio, you know, whatever you need. 0.80

00:16:20.000 And I think that's the...

00:16:23.000 And you get caught up.

00:16:25.000 You really get caught up because it's every day.

00:16:27.000 Where most people go out and have a Saturday night on Saturday night.

00:16:31.000 We have Saturday night every night.

00:16:34.000 So it is one of those things where...

00:16:39.000 You can get lost.

00:16:41.000 You can get stuck into it.

00:16:44.000 You become kind of the thing, the monster a bit.

00:16:49.000 And I am so obsessed with everybody having a good time.

00:16:56.000 But sometimes my idea of what a good time is wasn't really the good time.

00:17:00.000 And I was so young.

00:17:02.000 I was 26 when I opened my first restaurant.

00:17:06.000 And 27 when I opened my second one.

00:17:09.000 So when we opened up Parts& Labor, it was crazy.

00:17:12.000 Parts& Labor was a giant old warehouse.

00:17:15.000 Big 14-person tables, like a hall.

00:17:19.000 And it was insane.

00:17:22.000 Food reviewers didn't know what was happening, because we were young, we were cool, we played really loud music, and we served really good food.

00:17:28.000 And people just didn't know, you know, it's like one of those things where you, and it was in a part of town that wasn't really built up yet, and it was just like, it was chaos.

00:17:38.000 And my partners were chaos.

00:17:41.000 And we all loved partying.

00:17:43.000 And we all were like riding this wave. 0.99

00:17:46.000 And the wave, sometimes you get fucking barreled. 0.95

00:17:50.000 And I think it's just like, but you keep going. 0.56

00:17:53.000 And you know, and it is that pressure of making the best food that you can, having the best experience for those people that are coming into your restaurant.

00:18:01.000 And at the same time, party...

00:18:05.000 Excuse me.

00:18:06.000 What's happening over there?

00:18:07.000 I'm getting, like, mucus from the coffee.

00:18:09.000 The coffee's, like, rattled my mucuses.

00:18:12.000 Was it, like, were you wrapped up in the party because everyone's having a good time and you want to have a good time, too?

00:18:18.000 Yeah.

00:18:18.000 I was the last guy at the party kind of thing.

00:18:20.000 You know, where it was just, like, after about two years at Parts and Labor, it kind of died, the hype died down, and it was, you know, it was just kind of one of those things where it's just, like, every day we partied.

00:18:34.000 On the days off, all of our staff would party together.

00:18:37.000 And it was just like one of those things.

00:18:40.000 So at 29, I'm 39 now.

00:18:43.000 So at 29, I had a heart attack, right? 0.97

00:18:46.000 So I had a heart attack after about a three-day binge, no sleep, Big fucking work, you know, just like 15 years, my whole life of being a maniac, being a psychopath, being like, I'll do anything on the table. 0.98

00:19:03.000 Whatever's on the table, I'll do it. 0.98

00:19:04.000 No problem.

00:19:05.000 No questions asked.

00:19:06.000 No, like, demons even.

00:19:08.000 I just want to have, like, literally... 0.99

00:19:11.000 I just wanted to fucking get so fucked up. 0.99

00:19:14.000 And I didn't even know why I wanted to get so fucked up. 1.00

00:19:17.000 And then the heart attack happened and it was like a crazy kind of moment. 0.98

00:19:23.000 That was like a crazy thing because it happened like in my sleep and I woke up.

00:19:29.000 So it was like after I crashed after three days.

00:19:32.000 So I'm at home and I wake up at like five in the morning and it's after like a Saturday night shift.

00:19:40.000 And I was like, I'm done.

00:19:41.000 I haven't slept in three days. 1.00

00:19:42.000 I'm just going to fucking bed. 0.99

00:19:44.000 See ya. 0.99

00:19:44.000 And I go home, and I wake up at like 5, 5.30 in the morning. 0.99

00:19:50.000 And I'm a big dude, so I used to do this thing.

00:19:52.000 Like, if I was partying, like, really hard, and I get, like, palpitations...

00:19:56.000 I would do this thing where I'm doing almost like jumping jacks, and I would cough out the palpitations that I would feel, and I thought that was doing well.

00:20:04.000 I don't know if you do that when you're working out and you feel your heart rate getting to where you feel like your heart's going to explode, but I used to do this jumping jack thing, and I'd be at a party just shoveling cocaine in my face, and all of a sudden I'd be like, and doing this thing, and everyone's like,

00:20:20.000 what's he doing?

00:20:20.000 And I'm like, I'm at the level now.

00:20:22.000 Now I'm at the good pace. 1.00

00:20:25.000 Like a fucking goddamn cheetah. 1.00

00:20:28.000 And then I woke up and I was like, I think I'm going to have a heart attack. 1.00

00:20:34.000 What was it feeling like?

00:20:36.000 It was like an uncompromising vice grip on my heart.

00:20:41.000 So it was like this thing that was getting tighter and it wouldn't stop.

00:20:47.000 If I moved or anything and I would stand up and I was like stretching and I was doing all these things, I was just like, this is just, it's just clenching and it's getting tighter.

00:20:57.000 And it hurts. 0.99

00:20:58.000 And I'm like, third degree burns, cut my tendons off, break my shit. 0.98

00:21:03.000 I'm covered in tattoos. 0.99

00:21:04.000 I understand pain.

00:21:05.000 I understand levels of pain. 1.00

00:21:07.000 I understand all that kind of shit. 0.98

00:21:10.000 And I was like, this is something I've never felt before. 0.99

00:21:13.000 And this is something that I'm like, I know my palpitations, I know like, you know, coke boy fucking psycho shit, and I'm just like, this is not that. 0.99

00:21:19.000 This is like, and I was like, Trish, take me to the hospital. 0.98

00:21:22.000 And Trish is like, okay, yeah?

00:21:24.000 It's go time?

00:21:25.000 And I'm like, it's happening!

00:21:26.000 It's like we're having a kid.

00:21:27.000 I was like, you got your drug addict boyfriend, like, overnight hospital bag?

00:21:31.000 Let's go!

00:21:32.000 Like, did she anticipate that this was eventually going to take place?

00:21:38.000 I don't know.

00:21:38.000 If you asked her, maybe.

00:21:40.000 I was so in it.

00:21:41.000 When you said, take me to the hospital.

00:21:43.000 Like if I said to my wife, take me to the hospital. 1.00

00:21:45.000 She'd be like, why?

00:21:47.000 I would have to explain.

00:21:48.000 I think I'm having a heart attack. 1.00

00:21:49.000 She'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

00:21:51.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:21:52.000 I wore my drug use on my sleeves.

00:21:56.000 So she was like, this is not outside of what's possible.

00:21:59.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:21:59.000 She's like, you stupid piece of shit. 1.00

00:22:01.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:22:02.000 Hospital.

00:22:02.000 Don't die.

00:22:03.000 Don't die.

00:22:03.000 We're like three blocks away from the hospital, though, which is lucky.

00:22:06.000 Shout out to St. Joe's.

00:22:07.000 So I go to the hospital, and when they take your blood...

00:22:10.000 So I walk in, and they're like into the ER. I'm like, I think I'm going to have a heart attack.

00:22:14.000 And they're like, what?

00:22:15.000 What's happening?

00:22:15.000 Okay, do you do this?

00:22:16.000 Do you do this?

00:22:17.000 And I'm like, yeah, [...

00:22:19.000 Let's go.

00:22:20.000 I'm having a heart attack here. 1.00

00:22:22.000 And they fucking... 1.00

00:22:23.000 So they take your blood. 1.00

00:22:24.000 Your enzymes change.

00:22:26.000 And they find broken glass. 0.99

00:22:27.000 They're like, there's broken glass, there's elastic bands, there's fucking... 0.99

00:22:30.000 Tampons. 0.99

00:22:31.000 There's tampons.

00:22:32.000 They're like, there's just a million little Ziploc bags inside of me.

00:22:36.000 You know, I'm like the ocean.

00:22:38.000 I'm the ocean.

00:22:38.000 There's that much plastic inside of me.

00:22:40.000 And they're like, you had a heart attack four hours ago.

00:22:45.000 And I was like, yeah!

00:22:47.000 And I was kind of like, sick.

00:22:49.000 Okay, so I had a heart attack four hours ago and I'm still alive.

00:22:51.000 So I'm good?

00:22:52.000 And they're like, no, you're not good.

00:22:54.000 And I was like, okay, so what do we do?

00:22:57.000 And they're like, we're going to bring you to the ER and we're going to lay you down in a bed and you're going to calm down.

00:23:01.000 I was like, okay, can I call my parents?

00:23:03.000 I think I need to call my parents.

00:23:05.000 And they're like, okay, call your parents.

00:23:06.000 And I went outside, had a smoke.

00:23:09.000 Of course you did. 0.98

00:23:10.000 Yeah, I'm just like, I'm going to have a fucking smoke, go outside in the parking lot. 0.97

00:23:13.000 I'm like, hey, mom, dad, I don't want to stress you guys out, but I think I had a heart attack. 0.98

00:23:18.000 The doctor says I had a heart attack four hours ago.

00:23:21.000 I'm walking around right now, so I feel pretty cool, but I feel relief.

00:23:27.000 What exactly is a heart attack?

00:23:29.000 What happens?

00:23:30.000 So I had one of my valves just closed up.

00:23:33.000 It's a matter of literally- Seizes.

00:23:34.000 Yeah, seized up.

00:23:36.000 And yeah, just seized up.

00:23:40.000 You know what I know about heart attacks?

00:23:41.000 What do you know?

00:23:42.000 Richard Pryor explaining about his heart attack during one of his specials.

00:23:46.000 Oh my god.

00:23:46.000 That's literally about what I know about heart attacks.

00:23:49.000 That's it.

00:23:49.000 Pryor.

00:23:50.000 Him going, you weren't thinking about that shit when you ate that pork. 1.00

00:23:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:54.000 Well, that's the thing. 1.00

00:23:56.000 I don't remember.

00:23:57.000 No.

00:23:58.000 I'm old.

00:23:59.000 I'm young.

00:23:59.000 I know prior.

00:24:01.000 Not that bit, though.

00:24:03.000 It's a good bit.

00:24:04.000 It's classic.

00:24:04.000 It's a classic bit.

00:24:05.000 Yeah, I'd see it.

00:24:06.000 So what do they do when you go in for a heart attack?

00:24:09.000 Do they give you liquids in an IV form?

00:24:11.000 Yeah, all of a sudden I get laced up.

00:24:13.000 I get laced up.

00:24:14.000 I get covered.

00:24:15.000 I get all the patches on me.

00:24:17.000 I get the IV. I get the thing.

00:24:18.000 I'm in the hospital bed.

00:24:20.000 Things start mellowing out.

00:24:21.000 Things start clicking and really kind of settling.

00:24:24.000 My adrenaline is going down.

00:24:25.000 I start, you know, getting sad.

00:24:27.000 Start thinking about life.

00:24:29.000 I put on my headphones, put on explosions in the sky.

00:24:33.000 And I'm just like, it's Friday night lights in my head.

00:24:35.000 And I'm just like, start crying.

00:24:37.000 And then, not a big crier.

00:24:40.000 I'm not a crier.

00:24:41.000 But in that moment, I didn't cry like when my children were born.

00:24:44.000 I didn't cry.

00:24:45.000 I feel like I'm still, there's too many broken people.

00:24:47.000 Do you have a heart attack song that brings you back to the moment when you had a heart attack?

00:24:50.000 Maybe.

00:24:51.000 Just like explosions in the sky.

00:24:52.000 Just like Friday Night Lights.

00:24:53.000 The beginning of Friday Night Lights.

00:24:55.000 That's it?

00:24:55.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 If I watch Friday Night Lights for some reason and it triggers and I'm just like...

00:24:59.000 It makes me just want to party, really.

00:25:01.000 It makes me...

00:25:02.000 Heart attacks make me think of Audioslave for some reason.

00:25:06.000 Chris Cornell.

00:25:07.000 I would think like I Am The Highway.

00:25:09.000 You know that song?

00:25:10.000 I am the highway.

00:25:11.000 Not the golden wheel.

00:25:14.000 I am the highway.

00:25:17.000 I don't know.

00:25:17.000 I'm just expressing myself, Jamie.

00:25:20.000 I don't have any understanding. 0.99

00:25:21.000 I don't know why the fuck I think like this. 0.99

00:25:23.000 Did he have a heart attack? 0.99

00:25:24.000 How did Chris?

00:25:24.000 No, he's suicide.

00:25:25.000 Suicide.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, it's sad.

00:25:27.000 It is sad.

00:25:27.000 The ultimate.

00:25:28.000 Yeah, super sad.

00:25:30.000 It's sad.

00:25:31.000 But the, uh...

00:25:32.000 So...

00:25:33.000 Heart attack.

00:25:33.000 We're in the bed.

00:25:34.000 You're in the bed. 1.00

00:25:35.000 You're all covered in electrodes and shit. 1.00

00:25:37.000 Electrodes and shit. 0.99

00:25:38.000 Then I get up to my room, and they're like, you have to stay in the hospital until your enzymes flip. 0.85

00:25:44.000 Your cells or whatever flip back, your white cells or whatever.

00:25:48.000 It could take five to ten days.

00:25:50.000 I'm like, okay, cool, whatever.

00:25:53.000 Because in Canada, once again, shout out to Canada, the one really cool thing, healthcare.

00:25:57.000 So it's just like, I'm in the hospital for, end up, like, seven days.

00:26:02.000 And I get a bill for six dollars because I had a phone in my room. 0.95

00:26:08.000 So I had like a phone, a live whatever, a fucking old-school phone. 0.95

00:26:12.000 So I had to pay for the phone line. 0.99

00:26:13.000 Wow.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 They don't cover that.

00:26:15.000 That's pretty tight.

00:26:16.000 Yeah.

00:26:16.000 That's nice.

00:26:17.000 And so I'm in the hospital.

00:26:20.000 Hooked up to everything. 0.99

00:26:21.000 They gotta take my blood every two hours, 24 hours a day, and I'm fucking fat, covered in tattoos. 0.99

00:26:28.000 So they have to find a vein. 0.99

00:26:29.000 Yeah, it takes forever.

00:26:30.000 I'm getting... 0.99

00:26:31.000 It's fucking... 1.00

00:26:31.000 It sucks. 1.00

00:26:32.000 But I get out... 0.96

00:26:36.000 And, you know, I got to think about a lot of things.

00:26:40.000 You know, I got to think about what I'm going to do.

00:26:42.000 I got to think about who I am.

00:26:44.000 I got to think about...

00:26:44.000 The scariest thing is like...

00:26:46.000 One of the scariest things is your identity.

00:26:50.000 My identity was if you came to Toronto...

00:26:53.000 You were going to come to Parts and Labor and party with me.

00:26:55.000 If you were a chef, if you were like, you know, a cool celebrity, if you were like a thing, you would come to Parts and Labor and like party, you know, kind of thing.

00:27:03.000 And I was so fixated on this like persona, this thing that I'm like this party boy.

00:27:09.000 And it was really scary because I was just like, am I really that?

00:27:13.000 You know?

00:27:13.000 Or am I really this genuine...

00:27:15.000 Like, am I this sweet little boy still?

00:27:17.000 Like, am I this monster that I've kind of created?

00:27:21.000 How do I get back to, like, this place of, like, sanity?

00:27:24.000 How do I get back to this place of...

00:27:27.000 Just realness.

00:27:28.000 Like where I can be me.

00:27:31.000 The fear of people not liking you is pretty heavy with most people.

00:27:35.000 And all of a sudden, I was just like, no one's going to like me.

00:27:38.000 It's going to affect my restaurants.

00:27:40.000 It's going to affect my business. 0.98

00:27:41.000 It's going to affect my contract with fucking Vice. 0.98

00:27:45.000 Because my very first thing I did with Vice was a show called Hangover Cures, where I would take a chef and get them as fucked up as possible. 0.98

00:27:53.000 Then the next day, that chef would have to cook me a hangover cure.

00:27:55.000 And so it was just like, at the very beginning, I was so afraid that my whole identity was drugs, alcohol.

00:28:04.000 It was me. 0.97

00:28:05.000 And to separate that and to do the work and to get into fucking all the shit was very scary because I didn't even get sober for two years after that. 0.99

00:28:16.000 Wow. 0.99

00:28:17.000 Or a year after.

00:28:19.000 How long after the heart attack do you start partying again?

00:28:21.000 It took about three months for me to spruce my goose up enough to get nuts. 0.99

00:28:25.000 And that is the turning point where I truly believe that I turned into a fucking full-blooded addict. 0.99

00:28:35.000 Because then all of a sudden... 0.99

00:28:37.000 I had an out.

00:28:38.000 You know, I had a safe out.

00:28:40.000 You know, I had the story.

00:28:41.000 I had the love of all my friends.

00:28:44.000 We're like, Maddie, we're with you.

00:28:45.000 You know?

00:28:46.000 So much beautiful support from all of my...

00:28:48.000 My crew's deep.

00:28:49.000 And I was just like, so much good love from my friends.

00:28:52.000 And then all of a sudden, I started hiding.

00:28:54.000 Going to different places.

00:28:56.000 Different bars.

00:28:56.000 Different little drug homes, I like to call them.

00:28:59.000 You know?

00:29:00.000 Little...

00:29:00.000 Trap house.

00:29:00.000 Yeah, little places.

00:29:02.000 Little critter little homes.

00:29:04.000 Is that a trap house?

00:29:05.000 No.

00:29:06.000 Trap house where you dance?

00:29:07.000 Trap house.

00:29:07.000 What happens in the trap house?

00:29:09.000 Fuck chicks? 1.00

00:29:10.000 What happens in trap houses? 1.00

00:29:14.000 You can say it.

00:29:16.000 The business happens.

00:29:17.000 The business happens.

00:29:18.000 And then you go to the other house to use it, usually.

00:29:21.000 Oh, because you don't get high at the trap house?

00:29:24.000 Just business.

00:29:26.000 No, Joe.

00:29:27.000 A. Never get high on your own supply.

00:29:35.000 I think that's when I really was getting fucking crazy. 0.96

00:29:39.000 And that's when I started turning Less fun and more of an addict. 0.97

00:29:44.000 Yeah, I got very violent.

00:29:46.000 Really?

00:29:47.000 Yeah, like I got I got banned from our own nightclub.

00:29:50.000 I got banned from like, you know, I got walked in on and I was trying to like rob pretty much this drug dealer I was like I swung on like I would be blackout drunk Trying to fight my friends and like being like you can't stop like because people would try to stop me They would like I would walk into a bar and like because I'm in the hospitality group like,

00:30:08.000 you know, I'm in the crew and So it's just imagine being a comedian and somebody gets almost blacklisted, but we still love you, but you can't show up here.

00:30:18.000 But we love you.

00:30:19.000 You can do your comedy by yourself out in your car, but you can't come in here, right?

00:30:25.000 And I'm just like, well, I want to still go into the bar.

00:30:27.000 I go to the bar every day.

00:30:28.000 That's my safe place.

00:30:30.000 I want to go into the bar.

00:30:32.000 Let me in.

00:30:33.000 And everyone's like, you're not dying here. 0.99

00:30:35.000 You're not dying at my fucking bar. 0.99

00:30:37.000 So then I had to start going to these deeper, darker places and push myself. 1.00

00:30:41.000 And before, when I used to do drugs, I never had to say fuck it in your head. 1.00

00:30:48.000 You know when you're about to jump and you gotta be like, fuck it, let's go. 1.00

00:30:52.000 You know? 0.99

00:30:52.000 So those moments when you often have to be like, you have to push yourself. 0.99

00:30:57.000 I was doing that with drugs.

00:30:59.000 Where I'd be like, I know, now I know that I could die.

00:31:02.000 Before, my ego was like, you'll never die, Matty. 1.00

00:31:06.000 You're the fucking man. 1.00

00:31:08.000 But now, all of a sudden, my ego is a little bit shook. 1.00

00:31:12.000 But my ego still is like, fuck you. 1.00

00:31:14.000 You're gonna keep doing this. 1.00

00:31:16.000 And so I had to keep doing it, and I had to keep saying, fuck you, to myself. 1.00

00:31:20.000 So every time that I started doing drugs, I would be like, fuck it, let's go. 1.00

00:31:25.000 And then that was the moment when I was just like, that's when shit got dark. 0.99

00:31:29.000 And so there was like a year of that. 0.93

00:31:32.000 And then, by the last time I ever drank, the last time I ever did any, like, fucking anything, was, you know, nine years ago, the weekend of November, whatever, 12th, and my friend was visiting from England, 0.98

00:31:49.000 a chef, and we were doing a big dinner, and I got so fucking drunk. 0.97

00:31:54.000 And I walked in Friday service, mid-service. 0.96

00:31:58.000 Didn't even show up for work.

00:31:59.000 Took the chef out and was just like, you know, didn't tell anybody.

00:32:03.000 I'm just like bringing my buddy around town, being a host.

00:32:06.000 And I show up and all the partners were sitting at one of the chef's tables.

00:32:09.000 So there was like, in the big kitchen at Parts, in this warehouse, there was like three chef tables.

00:32:14.000 So the VIPs, the homies, all the people got to sit in the chef tables.

00:32:18.000 And all the partners were sitting there.

00:32:20.000 And I walked in and they're like...

00:32:22.000 What's up?

00:32:23.000 You don't have to show up for work, bro?

00:32:25.000 You get to do whatever you want to do?

00:32:26.000 Kind of thing? 1.00

00:32:27.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:32:29.000 And I was just like, what the fuck do you want? 1.00

00:32:32.000 And I was just like, what do you want? 0.99

00:32:34.000 Your restaurant's packed.

00:32:35.000 Look at this.

00:32:37.000 And I walked out into the middle of the dining room and I was like, hey!

00:32:41.000 Everybody! 0.99

00:32:42.000 Who the fuck is having the best time ever? 0.99

00:32:44.000 And everyone was like, wow! 1.00

00:32:46.000 And I looked at all the partners and I was like, fuck you. 1.00

00:32:49.000 This is my crew. 1.00

00:32:50.000 This is my fucking world. 1.00

00:32:54.000 That didn't go well. 1.00

00:32:57.000 Ego. 0.99

00:32:58.000 I was such a psychopathic young psycho. 0.99

00:33:02.000 Well, those two things, booze and coke. 0.98

00:33:04.000 I mean, they are the accentuators.

00:33:06.000 I got a little pee-pee.

00:33:07.000 I got to make it up somewhere.

00:33:09.000 It's so hard to fill the void.

00:33:15.000 And I found that with that.

00:33:17.000 And then the next day, one of my partners was like, hey...

00:33:22.000 Let's meet for a coffee. 0.87

00:33:23.000 I want to fire you to your face. 1.00

00:33:26.000 And I was just like, okay, yeah, fire me. 0.98

00:33:29.000 I was just like, what are you going to do with your restaurant, bro?

00:33:32.000 What are you going to do with all your restaurants?

00:33:34.000 I'm the face of your company.

00:33:35.000 I'm the guy.

00:33:37.000 And I showed up.

00:33:40.000 And he was like, meet me here.

00:33:41.000 I'll pick you up.

00:33:42.000 We're going to go for a coffee.

00:33:43.000 I was like, okay.

00:33:44.000 Let's meet up.

00:33:45.000 And I knew that I could manipulate and talk to him and, you know, be like, we're cool.

00:33:49.000 You know, I won't do it again. 0.99

00:33:50.000 Attic shit. 1.00

00:33:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Attic shit. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Just manipulate, manipulate, manipulate, manipulate. 1.00

00:33:55.000 And fucking... 1.00

00:33:57.000 And he drives me and it's like, oh my God. 1.00

00:34:00.000 He pulls up to like my homie's house, who's like straight edge vegan warrior.

00:34:05.000 Oh boy.

00:34:05.000 And I'm just like, oh, perfect.

00:34:08.000 And then like four of my dudes come out.

00:34:11.000 And I'm just like, okay. 1.00

00:34:14.000 Let's see what you fucking losers gotta say. 1.00

00:34:16.000 You know? 1.00

00:34:17.000 Let's hear what all my best friends gotta say about me.

00:34:20.000 How much you love me and how much you care about me. 1.00

00:34:23.000 Let's see what you fucking losers gotta say. 1.00

00:34:25.000 You know, instantly going into hating these people that are trying to help me. 1.00

00:34:30.000 And, you know, the veils that can come...

00:34:33.000 When you sit down in front of your best friends, your true inner circle, the people you can't lie to, the people that you can't...

00:34:41.000 There's no facade.

00:34:42.000 There's no media.

00:34:43.000 There's no nothing.

00:34:44.000 It's you and your friends.

00:34:45.000 And I sat down and I listened for like four hours.

00:34:50.000 And...

00:34:52.000 And the next day, one of the guys there goes to meetings, and he's like, we're going to a meeting.

00:34:59.000 And so the next day, I walked into a meeting, and the miracle happened.

00:35:06.000 A meeting?

00:35:07.000 Yeah.

00:35:08.000 What made you hit the switch? 0.99

00:35:10.000 You go from, is everybody having a good fucking time? 0.99

00:35:13.000 To... 0.99

00:35:14.000 All right, I'm done.

00:35:15.000 Yeah, because I think the lying, within that four-hour period, that transitional period, that was my out.

00:35:23.000 I could stop lying, because I was lying.

00:35:26.000 The lying is what really broke me.

00:35:28.000 About whether or not you were using...

00:35:30.000 Where I was going, the people I was hanging out with, lying to Trish.

00:35:34.000 Another thing, I've been with Trish for like 21 years, you know?

00:35:38.000 She's... 1.00

00:35:40.000 A fucking saint. 1.00

00:35:41.000 She's a hard-bodied Italian-Irish woman. 1.00

00:35:43.000 She's fucking, you know, three home births. 1.00

00:35:46.000 She doesn't fuck around. 1.00

00:35:47.000 Yikes. 1.00

00:35:48.000 She's fucking real deal. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Home births. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Bruh, I'll birth a child right now.

00:35:52.000 Jamie, you got a baby in there?

00:35:53.000 Let's go.

00:35:54.000 I'll birth you. 1.00

00:35:55.000 So, the fucking... 1.00

00:35:56.000 I was like, why isn't Trisha here? 0.99

00:36:00.000 And she's like, she's out.

00:36:02.000 It's up to you.

00:36:02.000 She's got nothing left to say.

00:36:04.000 She's out.

00:36:05.000 It's up to you now.

00:36:07.000 And I was just like, huh.

00:36:09.000 I don't like that.

00:36:11.000 And even now, I feel I can trigger that feeling of this is real.

00:36:19.000 This is it.

00:36:20.000 This is a time where I can stop.

00:36:22.000 This is a time where I can...

00:36:25.000 I can stop.

00:36:27.000 I accept that I have a chance at not ever having to lie.

00:36:35.000 I have a chance.

00:36:36.000 I don't have to do that again.

00:36:39.000 And then a lot of hard work, a lot of years, a lot of listening, a lot of taking suggestions and doing things that other people say and listening.

00:36:52.000 A lot of suggestions were crucial.

00:36:54.000 The way I was living my life was not the way I should live my life.

00:36:59.000 The insanity, doing things repeatedly, thinking there's going to be a different outcome.

00:37:03.000 Yeah.

00:37:04.000 Insanity. 0.99

00:37:05.000 It's just amazing that you went from fuck everybody to one meeting, and you're like, okay. 1.00

00:37:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:37:13.000 And that was it. 0.99

00:37:14.000 No more drinking, no more drugs, no relapses, that's it.

00:37:17.000 That's it.

00:37:18.000 That's incredible.

00:37:20.000 So you hit the shift.

00:37:22.000 I hit the shift.

00:37:23.000 So you kind of knew you were going to have to get off the ride eventually.

00:37:27.000 Well, yeah.

00:37:28.000 The thing is, I'm more good than bad in the ego, you know?

00:37:35.000 I'm more aware than unaware. 1.00

00:37:38.000 I'm not a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:37:39.000 I have a nice life. 0.99

00:37:41.000 I love my parents.

00:37:42.000 I love my family.

00:37:44.000 I love myself.

00:37:46.000 I have a lot of things to live for.

00:37:50.000 And, you know, that was the thing where it was just like, am I gonna be, you know, a loser? 0.63

00:37:57.000 Right.

00:37:57.000 Am I gonna be, am I gonna not have a job?

00:37:59.000 Am I not gonna, like, I don't come from money.

00:38:02.000 Am I, I'm not gonna be taken care of, there's no one to take care of me.

00:38:06.000 Right. 0.98

00:38:06.000 I need to, like, figure my shit out. 0.98

00:38:09.000 That was, that was a good run. 0.99

00:38:11.000 You know? 0.98

00:38:13.000 High school, college, fucking my entire career, everything I wanted to do, perfect. 0.98

00:38:19.000 I got to do everything my way, and it ended up here. 0.99

00:38:23.000 Almost dead.

00:38:24.000 Friendless.

00:38:25.000 Jobless. 1.00

00:38:26.000 Fucking, from the most popular cool dude, you know, in my head. 1.00

00:38:30.000 To an almost dead guy. 0.99

00:38:31.000 To an almost dead guy that nobody actually really liked anymore, too.

00:38:35.000 A lot of people would see me because I wouldn't shower. 0.98

00:38:38.000 I was a psychopath. 0.80

00:38:39.000 I'd wear the same clothes every day. 0.96

00:38:40.000 Just like, ah! 0.92

00:38:42.000 Like, maniac.

00:38:43.000 So it was just like, nobody wants to be around that guy.

00:38:45.000 So how did you deal with the shift in your identity?

00:38:48.000 Because that's an issue for a lot of people.

00:38:50.000 When they stop doing something, it's a big issue for fighters.

00:38:53.000 When fighters retire from the sport, their identity is wrapped up in fights.

00:38:56.000 That's why so many fighters make ill-advised comebacks later in their life.

00:39:01.000 What did you do about your identity?

00:39:03.000 Like, how did you release this hold that you had on this idea that you're this party animal?

00:39:10.000 And that was part of who you are.

00:39:13.000 Well, I think the thing that helped me truly was shifting from a chef.

00:39:17.000 It was at that perfect moment.

00:39:19.000 Shifting from one career to another.

00:39:21.000 I was a chef.

00:39:22.000 I was a chef.

00:39:23.000 I only cared about chefs.

00:39:25.000 I didn't care about TV. Fuck you. 1.00

00:39:27.000 Fuck anybody on TV. Bourdain's, you know, cool. 1.00

00:39:30.000 But fuck everybody. 0.99

00:39:31.000 You know, I was like the punk chef guy. 1.00

00:39:34.000 Where I was just like, being on TV is for kooks. 0.99

00:39:36.000 Like, oh yeah, you're gonna be on fucking Food Network? 1.00

00:39:38.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:39:39.000 You fucking losers. 1.00

00:39:41.000 You sellout. 1.00

00:39:41.000 Yeah, fucking, yeah, that whole thing. 1.00

00:39:44.000 And then Vice, at the exact same moment, was doing a lot of food content. 0.99

00:39:50.000 And so was I. And so, all of a sudden, that was that thing where all of a sudden, I could leave that chef persona behind.

00:39:58.000 All of a sudden, I'm just in front of a camera.

00:40:00.000 And all of a sudden, the feelings I was getting wasn't from real people. 1.00

00:40:06.000 It was actually from comments and being like, oh, people fuck with me. 0.97

00:40:10.000 I can make content and it makes people happy. 0.99

00:40:14.000 People fuck with what I'm doing. 0.56

00:40:17.000 And all of a sudden, I was just like, that really helped me just be able to be myself. 0.99

00:40:23.000 I took myself out of, I made a lot of different rules even, where I wouldn't be in the restaurant past 10 o'clock.

00:40:31.000 So I would never even finish service.

00:40:33.000 So service would finish at 11, but it was triggering for me for the first year.

00:40:38.000 Because that's when everybody partied?

00:40:40.000 Well, at clean, like, okay, you know, last hour, big push. 0.99

00:40:44.000 We're going fucking down. 0.99

00:40:46.000 Let's fucking amp it up. 1.00

00:40:47.000 Like, finish fucking strong shit. 1.00

00:40:49.000 And then we scrub down, and as soon as we scrub down, everyone gets a beer. 1.00

00:40:52.000 Saturday night, I would buy whatever, cocaine for everybody, whoever wants it. 0.99

00:40:56.000 Here's cocaine, here's beers, let's go fucking party, boys. 0.99

00:40:59.000 You know? 1.00

00:41:01.000 You know, all of a sudden I didn't have a crew.

00:41:04.000 So did the other people stop partying as well?

00:41:09.000 A lot of my cooks did.

00:41:12.000 At the beginning, there was a lot of solidarity.

00:41:16.000 Oh, that's cool. 0.98

00:41:17.000 It was an interesting thing because also, I'm kind of the last of this bro chef shit. 0.99

00:41:25.000 Psychopathic dudes. 0.99

00:41:27.000 I was tattooed because I was punk, not because I was a chef.

00:41:30.000 All of a sudden, there's all these cool chef bros, but I was a hard-bodied, French-trained chef. 0.98

00:41:37.000 And fucking, you know, now everyone's running and jogging. 0.98

00:41:43.000 I don't think people like saying jogging. 0.99

00:41:45.000 But, you know, everyone's being active and eating well and doing meditation and all this stuff.

00:41:52.000 So I was like...

00:41:53.000 My crew was like a transitional time too, right?

00:41:56.000 Within the last 10 years, within the last, you know, seven to five years was a big transition and just the mentality of chefs to be like, instead of like eating chocolate bars and smoking cigarettes and getting drunk and fucked up every day, we're gonna meditate, jog or run and work out and be peaceful and like talk about like different books that help us and check in on each other.

00:42:19.000 And all of a sudden, there was, like, this big transition with me and our team and all that kind of stuff, too.

00:42:25.000 Even more so now, it's a full, like, thing across our whole company about all that kind of stuff.

00:42:31.000 But, you know, there was, like, it was one of those things where we were just, like, it was kind of, like, maybe they were hiding it from me, but there was definitely, like, we wouldn't drink at work anymore.

00:42:40.000 You know?

00:42:41.000 Like, nobody would drink online.

00:42:43.000 Nobody...

00:42:44.000 Out of respect for you.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, like, it was like a thing, like, we got you, chef.

00:42:46.000 That's nice.

00:42:47.000 Yeah, like, well, it's like that thing where it's just like, you know, maybe they were doing all the drugs and partying to, like, people please me.

00:42:55.000 You know?

00:42:55.000 Maybe they didn't want to go as hard as...

00:42:56.000 I was pushing everyone to be like, let's fucking go. 0.99

00:42:59.000 We cook hard, we fucking show up for work, and we fucking party till 6am, and then we're at work by 11am. 0.99

00:43:04.000 You know? 0.99

00:43:05.000 Like, that's not a sustainable anything.

00:43:07.000 No.

00:43:07.000 That's not sustainable.

00:43:08.000 And I did that every day.

00:43:10.000 I did that five, six days a week for 15 years.

00:43:15.000 I went to bed.

00:43:16.000 My bedtime, when Trish would start blowing my phone up, was like 6.01.

00:43:22.000 So I had to be home by 6.00.

00:43:25.000 Because then she'd be like, okay, now you're getting, like, crispy.

00:43:28.000 You know, from, like, 6 a.m.

00:43:30.000 to, like, 8 a.m.

00:43:31.000 is when you're, like, calling the drug dealer for the 15th time. 0.99

00:43:33.000 And you're doing, like, the crispy shit then. 0.99

00:43:35.000 So, like, my bedtime was, like, 6 a.m. 0.99

00:43:37.000 So then I'd go home, sleep from 6 to, like, 10.30, and then go to work.

00:43:42.000 Four hours?

00:43:43.000 Yeah, bro. 1.00

00:43:44.000 Just a fucking rhino. 1.00

00:43:45.000 That alone would be a heart attack. 1.00

00:43:46.000 Yeah, I guess so.

00:43:47.000 Drank a lot of water, though.

00:43:49.000 Well, that's good. 1.00

00:43:54.000 Fuckin' shoutout to water! 0.99

00:43:55.000 Yeah, shoutout to water. 1.00

00:43:57.000 I like how that cancels things out.

00:43:58.000 I drink water.

00:43:59.000 Yay.

00:44:00.000 But yeah, it is.

00:44:01.000 I asked him earlier, do you take vitamins?

00:44:03.000 He's like, no, I drink a lot of water, though.

00:44:05.000 One booger a day. 1.00

00:44:06.000 One booger a day just to make sure the immune system. 0.99

00:44:08.000 Yeah, the immune system's rockin', so one booger a day.

00:44:11.000 And then just fuckin' 16 liters of H2O. Well, it's good to drink water.

00:44:17.000 I agree with that.

00:44:18.000 We can find common ground.

00:44:20.000 That's our common ground, drinking water.

00:44:22.000 Yeah, water's good for you.

00:44:23.000 I like that, Joe!

00:44:24.000 I think you need more than four hours sleep, but that's just my personal opinion.

00:44:26.000 Well, now I go to bed at 9.30 and wake up at like 6. Oh, well, that's great.

00:44:30.000 Yeah.

00:44:30.000 Oh, that's really good.

00:44:31.000 I'm like a 9.30, 10 o'clock latest guy.

00:44:33.000 Wow, so you're getting a solid, you know, 9-ish, 8 and a half?

00:44:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:37.000 Tuck in.

00:44:38.000 I got my sleep apnea mask.

00:44:39.000 Oh, no.

00:44:40.000 Do you have the CPAP machine?

00:44:42.000 Yeah, I got a CPAP machine, but then I don't use it half the time.

00:44:45.000 It's too gnarly.

00:44:46.000 I get up to pee like five times a night because I'm such a great water drinker.

00:44:50.000 So then, you know, putting the machine back on at like 4 a.m.

00:44:56.000 is not good.

00:44:57.000 But I sleep good.

00:44:58.000 I sleep good.

00:44:59.000 I'm happy.

00:44:59.000 You know, Joe?

00:45:01.000 This is a heavy story, man.

00:45:03.000 It's a lot. 0.99

00:45:03.000 But I love the fact that you realized, like, when your friends were all, like, you were like, fuck, what the fuck are you going to say? 0.99

00:45:08.000 And then you're like, oh, I really, that is really it. 0.99

00:45:12.000 Well, it's just like, you take the, you put so many veils on.

00:45:15.000 You lie. 0.99

00:45:16.000 You lie, you cheat, you fucking do everything that you need to do to get whatever you need. 1.00

00:45:21.000 Because you want it. 1.00

00:45:22.000 I deserve it.

00:45:23.000 The void filling.

00:45:24.000 I need it.

00:45:25.000 I deserve it. 1.00

00:45:26.000 Fuck the world. 1.00

00:45:27.000 Why does he have that? 1.00

00:45:29.000 I want that. 1.00

00:45:30.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:45:30.000 I'm not even going to do anything. 1.00

00:45:31.000 I'm just going to go do coke with somebody I don't know for six hours.

00:45:35.000 It's just like, what is that?

00:45:36.000 And then when you're with your real friends... 0.99

00:45:39.000 And they're really being sweet, and they're telling you, like, the real shit, and you just take off the facade. 0.99

00:45:45.000 And you take off the facade, and then eventually you're like, there you are. 0.99

00:45:48.000 There you are, Peter.

00:45:49.000 You know Hook, the movie, Robin Williams, great film.

00:45:51.000 And they're like, there you are, Peter. 0.99

00:45:56.000 People are fucking messy, man. 0.99

00:45:58.000 It's messy to be a person. 1.00

00:46:00.000 It is.

00:46:00.000 And you can get wrapped up in that kind of partying.

00:46:03.000 Especially if you're involved in something like you were involved with where you are entertaining.

00:46:09.000 That's part of what you're doing. 0.97

00:46:11.000 You're the beast. 0.98

00:46:13.000 And then I became the jester. 0.99

00:46:15.000 That's the thing. 1.00

00:46:16.000 The party's over and you become the fool. 0.96

00:46:20.000 And it's like that's the thing is like now I just want to have a thing like I just want my life to be normal Yeah, you know, I just want to have my I want to go to work Monday to Friday when I have weekends with my family and That's it, you know, that's great because you got the best of both worlds Like you had the experiences that you could talk about and you have these you have the chaos in your past Ah, 0.97

00:46:43.000 but yet you still are having a good time Best time.

00:46:45.000 Yeah.

00:46:47.000 The best time.

00:46:48.000 This is like, and that's the thing is like, my identity is now I am me, you know?

00:46:54.000 And it's like, I finally get to just be- Be yourself.

00:46:57.000 Be myself. 0.98

00:46:57.000 And I'm like, I'm a weird, loud mouth kind of fucking spaz. 0.98

00:47:01.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:47:01.000 And it's just like, and I, you know, I got mad ADD and I just want to fucking like grab you and like, I really want to feel your muscles right now. 0.98

00:47:09.000 That's all I'm I want to be like, I want to feel his traps or his biceps. 0.96

00:47:13.000 I want to just grab it and like, but that's my head. 0.96

00:47:15.000 And then I'm like talking about this vulnerable bullshit and I'm just like, I'm going to grab his biceps in like two more hours. 0.97

00:47:21.000 But it's just like, I think, you know, but I get to be me. 0.98

00:47:26.000 I get to get a DM from you being like, hey, come on the show.

00:47:29.000 And I'm like, what world am I living in?

00:47:31.000 You know?

00:47:31.000 And I'm just like, I'm like, still my brain is like, I live on a farm in Ridgeway, Ontario.

00:47:37.000 You know?

00:47:38.000 I'm like, I'm out here with my kids, and I'm so disconnected, actually, from...

00:47:43.000 Should we say how you do it, how you get over here, or should we not say that?

00:47:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:49.000 No, no.

00:47:49.000 Everything is cool.

00:47:51.000 No, no, no, no.

00:47:51.000 Everything's cool.

00:47:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:53.000 You can talk about it. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Because Canada's fucked right now. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Canada's juiced. 1.00

00:47:58.000 They're so locked down and I don't understand why they think that's good.

00:48:02.000 I don't understand why they think that's the solution.

00:48:05.000 Yeah.

00:48:05.000 You know, I mean, we're dealing with America in weird spots, right?

00:48:08.000 Like, America has states and each state has a different approach.

00:48:12.000 And Florida's got one approach and California has another.

00:48:15.000 Opposite sides of the country.

00:48:16.000 Like, literally polar opposite sides of the ideologies. 0.99

00:48:19.000 And Florida's doing fucking way better.

00:48:21.000 I was just in Florida and it's like nothing's happening. 0.98

00:48:24.000 Like, maybe you'll get sick, maybe you won't. 0.99

00:48:27.000 But we're out here with no masks on, 15,000 people in a fucking arena for the UFC fight. 0.99

00:48:31.000 It was madness. 0.99

00:48:32.000 It was powerful.

00:48:34.000 It was really good.

00:48:35.000 But I'm like, hey guys, take your vitamin D, sleep, drink water, let's go.

00:48:39.000 Let's go.

00:48:40.000 You can't do Canada. 0.99

00:48:42.000 You can't do what you're doing where you have fucking Gestapo pulling people over for your papers. 0.99

00:48:46.000 Why are you out? 0.99

00:48:47.000 Why are you out of the house?

00:48:48.000 There's a cold floating around.

00:48:50.000 Why are you out of the house?

00:48:52.000 There's a lot of...

00:48:53.000 Overreaction?

00:48:55.000 There's a lot of overreaction.

00:48:57.000 There's a government...

00:48:58.000 Shout out to Doug Ford. 1.00

00:49:00.000 You're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:49:01.000 He's the brother of the guy that died. 1.00

00:49:03.000 He was my favorite.

00:49:05.000 Dude, he was my hero.

00:49:07.000 There's so many people.

00:49:09.000 Rob.

00:49:09.000 Rob Ford.

00:49:11.000 Rest in peace, baby.

00:49:12.000 I just have a whole bit about him.

00:49:13.000 That's the guy I wanted to party with.

00:49:16.000 I was like, I want to party with that guy.

00:49:17.000 I want to do crack and smoke crack with that guy. 0.99

00:49:20.000 Remember when he was coked up talking about how he was like Mike Tyson and he knocked a motherfucker out? 0.99

00:49:25.000 Remember that? 0.99

00:49:25.000 I was like, that is such coke talk. 0.99

00:49:28.000 He didn't even have big forearms.

00:49:30.000 He couldn't knock anybody out.

00:49:31.000 He was just like a big jelly bean.

00:49:33.000 Or is it shoulders?

00:49:34.000 What is it?

00:49:35.000 I think more shoulders.

00:49:36.000 More shoulder than forearm.

00:49:37.000 Yeah, Tommy Hearns had big shoulders.

00:49:39.000 He didn't really have big forearms.

00:49:40.000 Well, forearms are good.

00:49:42.000 I'm getting hot, Joe.

00:49:44.000 Show that shirt, bro.

00:49:45.000 Powerful Truth Angels.

00:49:47.000 I made a stencil drawing on pencil.

00:49:49.000 Well, I guarantee you, someone listening to this show is going to create you some fine art that will represent this podcast.

00:49:55.000 When did you start the podcast?

00:49:57.000 You got the ACL? The Big Dog Sweatin'.

00:50:00.000 Well, this coffee, what's it called?

00:50:02.000 Black Rifle.

00:50:02.000 Black Rifle Coffee.

00:50:03.000 Let me tell you something. 1.00

00:50:04.000 This thing is fucking... 1.00

00:50:06.000 It's legit coffee. 1.00

00:50:07.000 Shout out to... 0.99

00:50:07.000 That's making my foreskin fucking wrinkle up. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Evan Hafer and Matt Best. 0.99

00:50:10.000 Hey, God bless.

00:50:13.000 Legit coffee.

00:50:14.000 Yeah, we started the podcast, me and Two-Tone, I don't know, like two years ago?

00:50:21.000 How often are you doing the YouTube shows?

00:50:23.000 Okay, so the YouTube shows are great.

00:50:26.000 I have like three different little studios now, and when I get back from this trip, I'm going to start doing a weekly, a new cooking show.

00:50:35.000 And Just A Dash is like, I've only made like 24 episodes.

00:50:38.000 That's expensive.

00:50:39.000 You know, I pay all my dudes like well, and that is expensive to do Just A Dash.

00:50:44.000 We're trying to figure out some funding.

00:50:45.000 What's the difference between, I don't know what the names of any of them are.

00:50:48.000 I just find you, and then I watch your videos.

00:50:50.000 That's good.

00:50:51.000 That's okay.

00:50:52.000 I love watching cooking videos, as weird as that sounds.

00:50:55.000 I don't like cooking television shows, for the most part.

00:50:58.000 No! 0.99

00:50:58.000 Losers. 0.99

00:50:59.000 Other than Bourdain. 0.97

00:51:00.000 I really got into him with Bourdain, and I'm like, okay, no, I don't really like cooking shows.

00:51:05.000 I like Bourdain.

00:51:05.000 He was a human person.

00:51:06.000 He was a human person. 0.99

00:51:07.000 He's like, I don't care where you come from, what your story is, fucking tell me. 0.99

00:51:11.000 He was, uh, yeah. 0.99

00:51:13.000 He was people's people.

00:51:14.000 He was a very unusual dude.

00:51:15.000 I really enjoyed hanging out with him.

00:51:17.000 I can imagine.

00:51:17.000 I was so afraid of meeting him.

00:51:19.000 Me too. 0.56

00:51:20.000 I was and I never did and I'm happy that I because I was so I never met him and I even anytime he came to Toronto I would make sure that I didn't go because I don't know I was just I was like I'm gonna fucking ruin it yeah I'm gonna walk up there and be like hey Tony let's do a bag of you know I wouldn't have done the thing that he makes fun of exactly because I was too young and too fucking psycho and too into meeting him yeah where I was just like I can't meet him because I'll fucking kook it Yeah,

00:51:47.000 I got super starstruck when I met him.

00:51:52.000 Does that happen often?

00:51:54.000 Not that often.

00:51:56.000 You're starstruck right now.

00:51:57.000 Occasionally, a little bit.

00:51:59.000 Occasionally, if I meet a rock star, when I met Steven Tyler, I was like, I can't believe that's really him.

00:52:03.000 David Lee Roth weirded me out.

00:52:04.000 I was like, this is really Dave Lee Roth?

00:52:05.000 That's him, his face.

00:52:06.000 He looks old. 0.82

00:52:07.000 But he's so fucking cool. 0.86

00:52:08.000 He's so easy to hang with. 0.94

00:52:10.000 You know, David Lee Roth doesn't even have a phone.

00:52:12.000 Incredible.

00:52:12.000 He has a lady that is his handler, and you have to contact the lady, and the lady will drop Dave off, and she will say, let me know if there's anything wrong.

00:52:23.000 It's like a baby.

00:52:24.000 It's crazy.

00:52:26.000 I don't even know if he had a wallet.

00:52:27.000 I paid for dinner.

00:52:28.000 I don't know if he had a wallet.

00:52:29.000 He just hangs.

00:52:33.000 That's a good vibe though.

00:52:34.000 But he's the nicest, most easy going.

00:52:36.000 He's always laughing.

00:52:38.000 When I was a kid, my sister's boyfriend had a Van Halen license plate.

00:52:44.000 It was like V-H-N-H-L-N or something like that. 1.00

00:52:48.000 We were Van Halen fanatics in high school.

00:52:50.000 So from running with the devil to all of a sudden I'm hanging out with David Lee Roth.

00:52:55.000 It was too strange.

00:52:57.000 There's some gods.

00:52:58.000 It was very strange.

00:52:59.000 But meeting Bourdain was an odd one.

00:53:00.000 And then becoming his friend was an odd one.

00:53:04.000 I'd text him about stuff and ask him questions.

00:53:06.000 If I was going to a place, I went to Japan. 0.59

00:53:08.000 When I was in Japan, I was like, where are the best sushi places?

00:53:11.000 He gave me some suggestions.

00:53:13.000 He would always give me...

00:53:14.000 I've got detailed suggestions of where to go and this is the spot and go there.

00:53:18.000 And I ate with him a gang of times because his ex-wife was a UFC fanatic.

00:53:24.000 And so I met him at the UFC in Vegas.

00:53:26.000 Jiu Jitsu.

00:53:26.000 She was Jiu Jitsu too, right?

00:53:27.000 Yeah, Tavia. 0.79

00:53:28.000 She's a beast. 1.00

00:53:29.000 She's really talented.

00:53:31.000 You know, just really cool, period.

00:53:33.000 So she was really into the UFC, and then he got really into the UFC, too.

00:53:37.000 And so he started coming to some of the UFCs, came to some of my comedy shows, we hung out, we became buddies.

00:53:42.000 I did his television show, and then, you know...

00:53:46.000 Where'd you do his...

00:53:46.000 What job?

00:53:47.000 We went pheasant hunting in Montana.

00:53:49.000 That's nice.

00:53:50.000 And that's when I realized how hard he goes.

00:53:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:52.000 Because we were out there in the middle of the woods camping, and this motherfucker was just pounding. 1.00

00:53:56.000 I brought a vape pen, we were getting blasted on weed, and he just kept drinking, kept going. 0.99

00:54:02.000 You can drink it forever.

00:54:04.000 That's the thing.

00:54:05.000 I could drink forever.

00:54:06.000 I could drink forever.

00:54:09.000 Just days.

00:54:11.000 Not stopping.

00:54:12.000 I think that's the thing.

00:54:13.000 You can't stop because that's when the machine breaks down.

00:54:20.000 Well, that is the thing about alcohol, too, right?

00:54:22.000 You gotta keep it lubed.

00:54:23.000 Well, no, the alcohol and benzos and alcohol are the only thing that really, or one of the rare things that really kill you if you jump off them.

00:54:30.000 That's what they say about Amy Winehouse. 1.00

00:54:32.000 Right, right.

00:54:32.000 She died from withdrawals.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, those are benzodiazepines and alcohol, apparently, the most common for people to die from withdrawal.

00:54:43.000 Heroin, apparently, just makes you really sick. 0.99

00:54:45.000 You feel like shit, but it doesn't kill you. 1.00

00:54:49.000 Or it doesn't always kill you. 1.00

00:54:50.000 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:54:51.000 It's so scary.

00:54:52.000 And that's the thing, too.

00:54:53.000 I think most people, if I do stop, there's repercussions, too.

00:54:57.000 So what happened when you did stop?

00:54:59.000 Nothing.

00:55:01.000 Killed it.

00:55:02.000 I wasn't doing opiates. 0.56

00:55:06.000 I wasn't doing anything.

00:55:07.000 Yeah, but alcohol.

00:55:07.000 But alcohol alone.

00:55:09.000 I don't know.

00:55:10.000 Did you get the DTs?

00:55:11.000 No. 1.00

00:55:13.000 I'm like a fucking giant baby moose. 0.99

00:55:16.000 You know, like I was just like, I'm like, I don't know. 0.99

00:55:18.000 I broke my foot literally in like four places like six weeks ago.

00:55:22.000 And I'm just, I had a cast on and everything. 0.99

00:55:23.000 I'm walking around like a fucking freak. 0.99

00:55:24.000 And I'm just like, I don't know. 0.99

00:55:26.000 It's like one of those things.

00:55:27.000 I feel like I heal differently or something.

00:55:29.000 Like I just, I'm just like.

00:55:30.000 Maybe if you lost weight, you'd be a real athlete.

00:55:32.000 Well, if I, let me tell you something, Joe.

00:55:34.000 Tell me something, please.

00:55:35.000 Let me tell you something about losing weight.

00:55:36.000 Yeah.

00:55:37.000 My big man.

00:55:37.000 Okay.

00:55:38.000 One day I'm going to get there.

00:55:40.000 Why don't you go with Action Bronson?

00:55:42.000 Go party with that dude.

00:55:43.000 Bronson is such a...

00:55:45.000 He impressed the fuck out of me. 0.98

00:55:47.000 He did it. 1.00

00:55:49.000 He did the damn thing. 1.00

00:55:50.000 He lost 130 so far, and he's going to keep going. 1.00

00:55:53.000 Of course.

00:55:53.000 So he's going to lose another 30. Well, now he's going to tune.

00:55:55.000 That's the thing.

00:55:56.000 It's so sweet.

00:55:58.000 Truly.

00:55:59.000 He gave me a call.

00:56:02.000 We've had our differences over the years and stuff like that.

00:56:05.000 You guys squabbled?

00:56:06.000 We had small squabbles.

00:56:08.000 We had some squabs. 0.99

00:56:09.000 But I think it was just like, you know, too many cooks in the kitchen with Vice, and I think it was just like, there was a lot of different little things, you know?

00:56:19.000 But he gave me a shout, and it was crazy.

00:56:23.000 He started popping up, and I was just like, he's doing it. 0.99

00:56:26.000 And I was just like, he's fucking doing it. 0.96

00:56:28.000 And I think it's like, you know, I even hit him up when his book came out. 0.99

00:56:34.000 I hit him up and I was just like, hey man, we have the same publisher too.

00:56:38.000 And I was just like, congratulations on publication day, third book, big one.

00:56:42.000 And this one's meaningful.

00:56:44.000 I'm sure your other books are, but I was like, this one's a real one.

00:56:47.000 And it's just very inspiring.

00:56:50.000 But I think the thing...

00:56:51.000 So this is addict brain, ego.

00:56:54.000 Now...

00:56:55.000 During the pandemic, I had to figure out how to take care of my family.

00:56:59.000 So I've been trying to figure out, and these are excuses, how to figure out How to truly take care of my family.

00:57:08.000 Because when the pandemic hit, I was only playing defense with my work.

00:57:11.000 I was flying around the world just getting checks, collecting checks.

00:57:14.000 Maddie Madison, come here to Australia.

00:57:16.000 Maddie Madison, come here. 0.61

00:57:17.000 Come here, come here, come here.

00:57:18.000 Pandemic hit. 0.99

00:57:19.000 I had, you know, six months of booked out travel, paid, fucking dialed. 0.98

00:57:24.000 Like, here's my year, half a year. 0.95

00:57:27.000 Gone, instantly.

00:57:28.000 Then, lost, you know, a lot of stuff. 0.99

00:57:32.000 And then I was just like, wait, I'm a fucking tool. 0.99

00:57:35.000 I'm a gadget. 0.99

00:57:36.000 There's no way that this is fucking going down like this. 0.98

00:57:39.000 So I had to figure out how to make my own money. 0.97

00:57:42.000 And so then that's when I transitioned back into restaurants.

00:57:45.000 So with Maker Pizza, I was just a consultant.

00:57:49.000 Now I'm a partner.

00:57:50.000 But for the last five years, I was just a consultant. 0.99

00:57:53.000 So I was like, I don't even have a fucking restaurant. 0.98

00:57:56.000 I'm this chef traveling around the world being a chef. 0.99

00:58:00.000 I'm not a chef. 0.99

00:58:01.000 A chef isn't a fucking MD. You're not a fucking doctor. 1.00

00:58:05.000 A chef is a person that trains other cooks how to fucking cook. 1.00

00:58:08.000 If you're in front of your team, you're a chef. 0.99

00:58:11.000 If you walk outside, I don't believe it.

00:58:13.000 Like, you're not a chef, you're just a person. 0.98

00:58:14.000 You know, chefs aren't these fucking monolithic things. 0.94

00:58:18.000 You have to be in action. 0.98

00:58:20.000 Yeah, I strongly believe that.

00:58:22.000 Like, if you were in a kitchen, you're a chef.

00:58:23.000 If you are leading a team, teaching them how to cut better, sharpen their knives, cut vegetables, take care of things, build stocks, build dishes, understand the ergonomics of a dish, then you're a chef.

00:58:36.000 But I was just like, I'm not anything now.

00:58:40.000 Because I'm only as good as my last paycheck.

00:58:43.000 So I'm just like, there's no more paychecks.

00:58:45.000 So I had some restaurant partners, and I was like, we're going to activate.

00:58:52.000 We're going to build out some things.

00:58:53.000 We're going to build out some concepts. 0.99

00:58:54.000 We're going to start doing some shit. 0.98

00:58:56.000 And we went into action and we started doing those things. 0.99

00:58:59.000 And it's taken up a lot of time and a lot of mental capacity.

00:59:03.000 And I believe after this foot breaking that I truly...

00:59:08.000 I have this gym that I built in my barn.

00:59:11.000 And it's a great gym.

00:59:12.000 I got the TRX. I got squat racks.

00:59:14.000 I got the kettlebells. 1.00

00:59:15.000 I got the fucking balls. 1.00

00:59:17.000 I got the fucking bands. 1.00

00:59:18.000 I got all this shit in my barn. 1.00

00:59:21.000 And, you know, I just got out of my boot, like, two weeks ago, and my main concern, shortly, is going to be that next level. 0.99

00:59:31.000 Because it's just like, right now, I have to figure out...

00:59:34.000 You know, I'm not the rock.

00:59:36.000 You know, 5 a.m.

00:59:37.000 wake up, I got my reg- to build a new routine that I- I've never had a routine.

00:59:41.000 I've been a fat kind of kid my whole life. 0.96

00:59:43.000 You know, I played sports in high school, fucking lacrosse and shit, but it was like never like a- I was never like an athlete athlete. 0.99

00:59:51.000 You know, I was always like a fatter. 1.00

00:59:52.000 I was like the fat brother. 1.00

00:59:53.000 My brother abs, big dick. 1.00

00:59:54.000 Way to go, Steve. 1.00

00:59:55.000 My younger brother, like, bigger than me. 1.00

00:59:57.000 Fucking massive, strong motherfucker. 1.00

00:59:59.000 20,000 steps a day. 1.00

01:00:01.000 Psycho pack.

01:00:02.000 Concrete backpack. 1.00

01:00:03.000 Walking around the fucking neighborhood like a psychopath. 1.00

01:00:05.000 My brother's fucking ripped. 1.00

01:00:07.000 Me? 1.00

01:00:08.000 I was always the fat kid. 1.00

01:00:09.000 So I always have that ego too, where I fucking, fuck them, they just, their DNA is better than mine. 1.00

01:00:14.000 So I fought with, you know, being the fat kid, fought with being this, you know, whatever, just being this shape, you know? 1.00

01:00:23.000 And now...

01:00:25.000 I've built to a level where I feel comfortable with my team that I can start focusing my energy and time more on my physical self, which will help my mental self, which will now help everything else.

01:00:39.000 So I think I'm trying to build my own Swiss clock of my Maddie world.

01:00:44.000 And right now, I have to set up a financial foundation of businesses.

01:00:48.000 Which I have, and now I have my home with my family taken care of, and now I can kind of start tending to Maddie a little bit.

01:00:57.000 Does that make sense?

01:00:58.000 Yes.

01:01:00.000 Long journey of words to get to, you're gonna lose weight.

01:01:04.000 Yeah, Joe.

01:01:05.000 I get it.

01:01:07.000 Look at these pumps.

01:01:09.000 I got pump-ups.

01:01:11.000 You want to arm wrestle?

01:01:13.000 I think I need to...

01:01:15.000 You know, Joe...

01:01:17.000 I would like to lose weight. 1.00

01:01:20.000 But I also think it's like, fuck. 0.99

01:01:22.000 I know that my cardiologist, my cardiologist, I don't have high blood pressure. 0.99

01:01:26.000 I don't have high cholesterol.

01:01:28.000 That's amazing.

01:01:29.000 It's incredible.

01:01:29.000 I don't understand it.

01:01:30.000 And my cardiologist was like, I'm the best cardiologist in the country.

01:01:33.000 You don't need me.

01:01:35.000 Yeah, but it's Canada.

01:01:36.000 Yeah, okay.

01:01:37.000 What does it even mean? 0.99

01:01:38.000 They're fucking brilliant. 1.00

01:01:39.000 They get paid slave labor. 1.00

01:01:40.000 No, they get paid hundreds of millions.

01:01:43.000 You get paid loonies.

01:01:43.000 They get loonies.

01:01:44.000 Hundreds of millions of loonies.

01:01:46.000 She definitely has a Range Rover.

01:01:48.000 She's doing fine.

01:01:51.000 Dude, it was so funny.

01:01:54.000 The thing about healthcare in America versus Canada, perfect example.

01:01:57.000 I break my foot in LA. I break my foot in LA. I break three metatarsals on the top of my foot.

01:02:03.000 How'd you break it?

01:02:05.000 Slipped off a curb, and my foot got stuck almost on the curb, and the way that I compressed or fell, it snapped the three metatarsus.

01:02:18.000 Because in LA, the curbs are high because of the water.

01:02:20.000 In Canada, our curbs are shorter. 0.99

01:02:22.000 So my my my my my agility my agility we have great drainage sandy soil and My fucking my my my I was like literally it was the stupidest thing I fell down like a baby. 0.99

01:02:34.000 I was like a turtle laying in the middle of fucking Melrose I was like Melrose and Myrtle and I was like at my homie. 0.98

01:02:40.000 You do not want to be hurt on Melrose these days either It's like a Mad Max movie. 0.97

01:02:45.000 Dude, it's crazy out there right now.

01:02:46.000 Isn't it weird?

01:02:48.000 Dude, I did a photo shoot.

01:02:49.000 I'm doing this thing, and I had to do a photo shoot, and they wanted to do it just on Hollywood Boulevard.

01:02:54.000 Yeah.

01:02:54.000 And I was just like, yeah, let's go.

01:02:56.000 Let's do it.

01:02:57.000 And it was just...

01:02:58.000 It was like...

01:02:58.000 You might as well be on Skid Row.

01:03:00.000 Yeah.

01:03:01.000 It's there, but it's... 1.00

01:03:02.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:03:03.000 Whatever. 1.00

01:03:04.000 So you broke your foot.

01:03:05.000 So I broke my foot, Joe.

01:03:06.000 So all this gym that you have set up, you haven't used it, but you set it up...

01:03:10.000 It's the beef barn.

01:03:10.000 You can call it the beef barn.

01:03:11.000 It's the beef barn.

01:03:12.000 Are you going to get a trainer?

01:03:13.000 That's what you should do.

01:03:14.000 So I have some...

01:03:17.000 I have so many beautiful people around me.

01:03:19.000 So many knowledgeable people around me.

01:03:21.000 And that's the thing.

01:03:22.000 I'm friends with, like, because of, like, Pat from, like, Ruka.

01:03:25.000 And, like, I have access to so many amazing athletes now that, like, they're all, like, let us know.

01:03:32.000 Anytime.

01:03:34.000 And, you know, I just gotta mentally get to that place.

01:03:38.000 It's just...

01:03:38.000 Do it.

01:03:39.000 Listen, there's all this jabber, jabber, jabber.

01:03:41.000 Jabber, jabber, jabber.

01:03:42.000 You're jabbering too much about it.

01:03:43.000 I know this is the same thing as...

01:03:44.000 I said it was excuses, Joe.

01:03:46.000 I know.

01:03:46.000 You did say it.

01:03:47.000 I said it.

01:03:48.000 I'll excuse you all day.

01:03:49.000 I know you will.

01:03:50.000 I think we can help you.

01:03:52.000 I think we can make this push happen.

01:03:53.000 Okay, you're going to produce.

01:03:54.000 I want to do a movie.

01:03:56.000 No.

01:03:57.000 Okay.

01:03:58.000 I'm busy.

01:03:58.000 I'm busy!

01:04:00.000 I'm not producing any movies.

01:04:01.000 Don't produce a movie. 0.99

01:04:02.000 I'm not doing shit. 0.99

01:04:03.000 I'm just going to do work. 0.96

01:04:03.000 Anytime anybody says, let's do this, I go, no. 0.96

01:04:07.000 I'm not doing shit. 0.99

01:04:08.000 Hunt. 0.97

01:04:09.000 Anything more than I'm already doing.

01:04:11.000 It's a perfect amount of things.

01:04:13.000 What I'm doing is exactly what I'm doing.

01:04:14.000 I have three jobs.

01:04:15.000 I don't need any more things.

01:04:16.000 Three jobs is a lot.

01:04:17.000 That's a lot of stuff.

01:04:18.000 It's a lot of stuff.

01:04:19.000 One of them is pretty easy.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:21.000 Which one's the easy one?

01:04:22.000 UFC. UFC's the easy one?

01:04:23.000 That's pretty easy.

01:04:24.000 Because I just have to watch fights.

01:04:25.000 Is there any kind of, like, prep?

01:04:29.000 Or, like, you know everybody?

01:04:31.000 Watching fights.

01:04:31.000 There's too many fighters now.

01:04:32.000 I can't know everybody.

01:04:33.000 So what I do is, leading up to fights now, I'll watch everybody that's on the card.

01:04:38.000 I'll watch some event they've been in.

01:04:40.000 Right, right.

01:04:41.000 Something that they're really good at.

01:04:41.000 So you have something to talk about.

01:04:43.000 Yeah.

01:04:43.000 I want to know.

01:04:44.000 I want to be able to watch.

01:04:45.000 Maybe they have a tendency.

01:04:47.000 Maybe they have something that they're really good at.

01:04:49.000 Some guys, like Alexi Olenek, he's a really good grappler, but not the best striker.

01:04:54.000 More plotting.

01:04:56.000 So you see, oh, he's fighting this guy who gets very light on his feet.

01:05:00.000 It's going to be a problem.

01:05:01.000 I sort of piece together what I think would be situations that could possibly occur in a fight and what to look for.

01:05:10.000 That UFC that just happened.

01:05:12.000 Special UFC, right?

01:05:13.000 Am I crazy?

01:05:14.000 Was that just a special UFC? It was special in every way.

01:05:18.000 It was special in that it had been a year since we had a full crowd.

01:05:22.000 And so, literally, the first fight, these two girls were getting ready to walk to the octagon.

01:05:27.000 The lights went down.

01:05:29.000 And it was probably only like 25% capacity at that time.

01:05:33.000 They hadn't always showed up yet.

01:05:34.000 Because it was early.

01:05:35.000 The first fight was like 6 p.m. 0.99

01:05:37.000 As soon as the lights went down, everybody went fucking madhouse. 0.96

01:05:45.000 I took my headphones off and I looked around and we were like, whoa! 0.97

01:05:50.000 And me and John Anik and Daniel Cormier are looking at each other like, boys, this is crazy!

01:05:55.000 And we took a photo, there's a photo that's on my Instagram of John Anik, Megan Olivi, me and Daniel Cormier right before the fight started.

01:06:03.000 We were so happy.

01:06:05.000 We were like beaming.

01:06:06.000 It was just like it felt so great because We had been calling fights over the past year, but we had been doing it with no audience at the Apex Center.

01:06:16.000 We were so happy there.

01:06:18.000 Look at Megan.

01:06:19.000 Look at that smile.

01:06:20.000 We were so happy.

01:06:23.000 It's just, you know, that's the pay-per-view crew.

01:06:25.000 And also, we could do this.

01:06:26.000 We could hug each other.

01:06:28.000 And when we did the pre-fight stuff, we were talking about the bouts that are coming up.

01:06:31.000 We're standing next to each other.

01:06:33.000 Because before, at the Apex Center, we were like separated and I couldn't interview the fighters inside the octagon.

01:06:39.000 It was all so weird.

01:06:40.000 So you go from that to Florida.

01:06:42.000 Florida's like, COVID is a rumor.

01:06:46.000 COVID's a rumor.

01:06:48.000 They're like, yeah.

01:06:49.000 It is what it is.

01:06:50.000 They'll figure it out.

01:06:51.000 But I think their approach is healthier than California that acts like it's a demon and you have to be protected by the governor. 0.99

01:06:58.000 This fucking guy who doesn't protect himself, doesn't even follow the rules, the guy who gets busted eating at the French Laundry indoors. 0.99

01:07:07.000 You know, and lies about it. 1.00

01:07:09.000 We were outdoors. 0.99

01:07:10.000 With the Teddy Cruz motherfucker going to Mexico, a little Cancun. 0.99

01:07:14.000 Yeah, but that's not that bad. 0.99

01:07:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:16.000 That guy was just trying to get away because the fucking state was frozen. 0.99

01:07:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:19.000 Like, I get it. 1.00

01:07:20.000 Maybe he should suffer with everybody else.

01:07:22.000 He should have suffered a little bit.

01:07:23.000 But that's not as bad.

01:07:25.000 Maybe a couple days.

01:07:26.000 That's not as bad as telling people not to eat indoors and you eat indoors.

01:07:31.000 Wear a mask in between bites of food.

01:07:34.000 He was telling people to do that.

01:07:35.000 So, it's like, California's approach is way worse than Florida's approach, and Florida's approach is way better than Canada's approach, too. 0.98

01:07:43.000 Canada's approach is ridiculous. 0.95

01:07:44.000 They're arresting people for going to church. 0.98

01:07:47.000 They have 200 cops showing up.

01:07:48.000 That thing was crazy.

01:07:50.000 That's insane.

01:07:50.000 It is like, it's so sad, because there's just like, what do we do?

01:07:53.000 Like, we're...

01:07:55.000 It's so tough, because we want to take care of our staff at our businesses, and no one goes into our buildings.

01:08:04.000 We all wear our masks.

01:08:06.000 We do everything that we can do.

01:08:08.000 And it's just like, for how long?

01:08:10.000 And for how long do we have to do this?

01:08:13.000 If you're our government, then show us the real plan of getting to a place.

01:08:18.000 That's not what they're there for.

01:08:19.000 They've never been there for telling you whether or not you can work.

01:08:23.000 You know why?

01:08:23.000 Because they don't lose any money.

01:08:25.000 That money keeps going.

01:08:26.000 It doesn't have any effect on them whatsoever. 1.00

01:08:28.000 Such losers. 0.97

01:08:29.000 It doesn't have any effect on them whatsoever if everyone's out of work. 0.98

01:08:33.000 If everyone's business crumples, they get the exact same amount in their paycheck.

01:08:36.000 That's what's happening in California.

01:08:38.000 Right.

01:08:38.000 And this is like the difference between, unfortunately, because I'm Liberal.

01:08:43.000 But there's a difference between the way Republican states handle things versus Democrat states.

01:08:48.000 Democrat states just lock everyone down.

01:08:50.000 We have to protect you.

01:08:51.000 You can't go anywhere.

01:08:52.000 You can't open up.

01:08:53.000 You can't do this.

01:08:54.000 And Florida was the most reasonable, believe it or not.

01:08:58.000 This is how you know we're living in the upside down, where everybody's like, Florida's great.

01:09:02.000 I want to move to Florida.

01:09:04.000 Everyone should just do what Florida's doing then.

01:09:06.000 Let's rock.

01:09:07.000 Florida was a joke.

01:09:08.000 Florida was a joke just two years ago.

01:09:10.000 Nobody wanted to be in Florida.

01:09:11.000 You know, I just don't want to...

01:09:12.000 It's one of those things.

01:09:13.000 I'm still such a, like, you know...

01:09:16.000 I do want to just do the nicest thing.

01:09:18.000 Like, in my mind, I'm like, well, what's the easiest, nicest thing?

01:09:21.000 And I just want to...

01:09:22.000 Like, if we're just going to wear masks, then wear masks.

01:09:24.000 I don't know.

01:09:25.000 Like, that's the thing.

01:09:26.000 It's like, I am a little bit just like...

01:09:28.000 I want to make sure people are safe.

01:09:31.000 Locking...

01:09:31.000 I don't think locking down does anything.

01:09:33.000 It's worse.

01:09:34.000 It makes things worse.

01:09:34.000 You know why?

01:09:35.000 Because people go inside.

01:09:36.000 They go inside.

01:09:37.000 They're trapped inside, and that's where it spreads.

01:09:38.000 Dude, it's not good for people.

01:09:39.000 That's where it spreads.

01:09:40.000 And I just don't think it's good for humans.

01:09:42.000 It's not good for your mental health, and that's not good for your immune system. 0.95

01:09:47.000 And, you know, again, there's no fucking instruction on telling people how to get healthier, because that's what's significant. 0.99

01:09:53.000 The only thing they've done is given us a fucking mask. 0.99

01:09:55.000 So all we've given a mask is... 1.00

01:09:56.000 I'm like...

01:09:57.000 It's one of those things where it's just like...

01:10:00.000 If you go out of your house then, the variable is there.

01:10:03.000 It doesn't matter how many interactions or how many things. 0.99

01:10:05.000 If you've chosen to leave your house and leave a quarantine situation, then that's your decision to fucking rock. 0.97

01:10:12.000 And I just think it's just like... 0.97

01:10:13.000 The thing about it is... 1.00

01:10:18.000 It's still so early and it's so stupid and it's fucked up. 1.00

01:10:22.000 You've got to give people personal freedom. 1.00

01:10:24.000 You can't take that away from them because then you're not what we signed up for.

01:10:28.000 What we signed up for is elected officials who represent the people.

01:10:33.000 You're not supposed to run the people and tell the people they can't work. 1.00

01:10:37.000 And if you're saying you're doing it to protect them, and it turns out not only does it not protect them, but it's less effective than letting them be free, and you don't course correct, and you don't adjust, then you're a piece of shit, and we have to take you out of office. 0.99

01:10:50.000 That's what's happening in California. 0.99

01:10:52.000 That's why they're recalling the governor in California.

01:10:54.000 Are they getting him out of there?

01:10:55.000 They're recalling him.

01:10:57.000 There's another election.

01:10:59.000 He'll probably wind up winning.

01:11:00.000 Is it California?

01:11:00.000 People are eating inside again now?

01:11:02.000 They are now because he's being recalled.

01:11:04.000 He opened everything up.

01:11:05.000 He's like, everybody wants it, let's go.

01:11:08.000 They're not showing the COVID science anymore.

01:11:10.000 They're not showing the numbers anymore.

01:11:12.000 Because the numbers wouldn't be enough to indicate that they should open everything back up again. 0.98

01:11:17.000 But when the governor's getting recalled, he's got to turn the fucking economy around. 0.98

01:11:20.000 That's when things change. 0.99

01:11:21.000 I just don't understand them, man.

01:11:23.000 I don't understand them.

01:11:24.000 Because it doesn't make sense.

01:11:25.000 What was the tipping point for you to be like, I'm moving my family.

01:11:29.000 Like, I'm moving the thing.

01:11:30.000 I saw where it was going.

01:11:32.000 Yeah.

01:11:32.000 I was like, they're telling us, first of all, they told us we're going to lock down for two weeks.

01:11:36.000 And I'm like, well, that's really reasonable.

01:11:38.000 Everybody will stay home for two weeks.

01:11:39.000 Right.

01:11:40.000 But then after two weeks, it's like, we're going to keep going.

01:11:42.000 And then it kept going.

01:11:43.000 It just kept going and nothing ever opened.

01:11:45.000 And then they were saying you can't go outside without a mask, which didn't make any sense because ultraviolet rays kill COVID. Right.

01:11:52.000 Like, it doesn't make any sense.

01:11:54.000 You shouldn't be able to run outside without a mask on.

01:11:57.000 Like, you're treating it like it's a demon.

01:11:59.000 You're not treating it like it's a virus.

01:12:01.000 Right.

01:12:01.000 And then it's just, I saw how other states were handling it.

01:12:04.000 I'm like, well, they're much more reasonable.

01:12:05.000 They believe in personal freedom, and they also take into account the fact that people have businesses.

01:12:09.000 You can't just let people's business go under because you tell them they can't work.

01:12:14.000 You've got to give people the option.

01:12:16.000 People need to decide for themselves.

01:12:18.000 And then once we got the numbers in, in terms of what the disease was actually doing, unfortunately, Maddie, 78% of the people that are in the hospital from COVID are overweight.

01:12:29.000 That's the number one thing.

01:12:30.000 The number one morbidity factor is obesity.

01:12:34.000 That's number one. 0.98

01:12:35.000 They don't say shit about that because they don't want a fat chance. 0.99

01:12:37.000 But everyone's obese. 0.99

01:12:37.000 Isn't everybody obese? 0.99

01:12:38.000 No, not everyone.

01:12:39.000 Oh.

01:12:40.000 There's a lot of people that are not obese.

01:12:42.000 Okay.

01:12:42.000 The other, you know.

01:12:44.000 30%.

01:12:44.000 Yeah.

01:12:45.000 Okay.

01:12:45.000 Well, 30%.

01:12:46.000 20%.

01:12:47.000 28%.

01:12:48.000 28%.

01:12:49.000 It's not a lot of people telling people to lose weight and be healthy, but they are telling you to stay home and be scared.

01:12:57.000 The be home and be scared thing is not good.

01:13:00.000 The internet's not good. 0.99

01:13:01.000 The fucking doom scrolling's not good. 1.00

01:13:03.000 The mental health is a real... 0.99

01:13:05.000 Like the sadness?

01:13:06.000 The cloud of sadness?

01:13:07.000 Oh my god, the suicides.

01:13:09.000 The cloud of sadness is not great.

01:13:11.000 And it's not...

01:13:15.000 Yeah.

01:13:15.000 There's a lot of, and there's a lot of despair.

01:13:17.000 We're not in unprecedented times.

01:13:18.000 We're just in unprecedented times.

01:13:19.000 Yes, we're in unprecedented times.

01:13:21.000 And there's a bunch of different ways to handle it.

01:13:23.000 But the thing that drives me crazy and that drove me crazy and got me out of California was I was looking at the way some states were handling it.

01:13:30.000 And I was like, that makes more sense.

01:13:31.000 And I was looking at how California was handling it.

01:13:33.000 They're representing it the way you want to live.

01:13:34.000 Well, they were doing it in a more effective way because their case numbers were lower, but they had more freedom, and the economies were way better in those states. 0.91

01:13:43.000 So even though people were catching COVID everywhere, every fucking state had COVID, right?

01:13:47.000 In the states where they were open, the businesses were staying open, and there wasn't a significant difference in terms of, like, these states, the businesses are open, but look, way more people are dying. 0.95

01:13:57.000 That wasn't the case.

01:13:58.000 In fact, Florida has less deaths.

01:14:01.000 Let's go Florida!

01:14:02.000 They have less deaths, they have less COVID, and they have more old people. 1.00

01:14:04.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:14:05.000 They got lots of old people. 0.99

01:14:05.000 If you look at it statistically, but they have hot weather and they have sun, and so they're outside in the sun, and it's better for you for vitamin D as well. 0.99

01:14:14.000 There you go.

01:14:14.000 Vitamin D is important.

01:14:16.000 It's It's fucking huge. 0.97

01:14:16.000 It's a hormone, man. 0.97

01:14:17.000 I love it.

01:14:18.000 I suntan.

01:14:19.000 I like suntanning.

01:14:20.000 Well, that's guaranteed.

01:14:22.000 That's good for you.

01:14:22.000 Do you like suntanning?

01:14:23.000 Do you suntan?

01:14:24.000 I go outside.

01:14:25.000 I don't suntan.

01:14:26.000 I don't lay around.

01:14:27.000 Suntanning's like jogging, I feel.

01:14:28.000 If I lay down, I'm sleeping.

01:14:30.000 Yeah.

01:14:31.000 You only lay down when you sleep.

01:14:33.000 Yeah.

01:14:33.000 Incredible.

01:14:40.000 I don't know where to go from there!

01:14:41.000 I'm just like, that's it.

01:14:43.000 Oh my god.

01:14:44.000 The good thing is I can sleep anywhere.

01:14:45.000 I can sleep on a moving train.

01:14:47.000 I'll just lie down.

01:14:48.000 I can fall asleep instantly anywhere, but maybe that's just because of the gravity pulling my soul.

01:14:54.000 But I'm saying I don't suntan, no.

01:14:56.000 No.

01:14:57.000 I like to suntan when I garden.

01:14:59.000 If I go to the, like, if I'm on vacation, I'm at the beach, I'll have a couple of margaritas.

01:15:04.000 Where do you vacation?

01:15:04.000 Where does Joe vacation?

01:15:05.000 I enjoy Hawaii.

01:15:06.000 That's my favorite place.

01:15:07.000 Which island?

01:15:08.000 I like all of them, but I like Lanai because no one's there, and you can bow hunt at night.

01:15:14.000 So you know what we do?

01:15:15.000 Night vision?

01:15:16.000 No, no, not at night.

01:15:17.000 In the afternoon.

01:15:18.000 Okay.

01:15:18.000 Because it's windier then.

01:15:20.000 It's easier because you're sneaking up on these axis deer, which are very wily.

01:15:23.000 So you can hear the leaves?

01:15:23.000 They ruffle your noise.

01:15:25.000 Yes.

01:15:26.000 The axis deer are super fucking tuned in because they evolved to get away from tigers. 0.98

01:15:30.000 Yes. 0.97

01:15:31.000 They're the fastest deer I've ever seen in my life.

01:15:32.000 The axis deers is the ones where you went hunting with the man-eater guy.

01:15:35.000 Or the meat-eater?

01:15:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:15:38.000 That's Steve Rinella.

01:15:39.000 Yeah, I didn't go hunting for axis deer with him.

01:15:41.000 No?

01:15:42.000 No, I've been hunting with him before for white-tailed deer.

01:15:45.000 Okay.

01:15:45.000 Where was the one when you were in like a mountain range?

01:15:47.000 Like a little mountain, like a hilly, kind of almost look like desert-y.

01:15:50.000 Oh, that was Nevada.

01:15:52.000 Nevada, okay.

01:15:53.000 But was that axis deer or am I crazy?

01:15:54.000 No, no, that was mule deer.

01:15:55.000 Mule deer.

01:15:56.000 Yeah.

01:15:57.000 Axis deer are, they're roaming around Texas, the ones that didn't die from the freeze-off.

01:16:02.000 Right.

01:16:02.000 Like I know a guy whose friend owns a ranch and he had 2,000 axis deer freeze to death.

01:16:08.000 Wow.

01:16:09.000 Just stacks of deer.

01:16:10.000 2,000.

01:16:11.000 That's like a concert full of deer.

01:16:12.000 Yeah.

01:16:13.000 That's a lot of dead deer.

01:16:14.000 You just put that in a freezer and then you butcher them up?

01:16:16.000 I don't know how they handled it.

01:16:18.000 I imagine they did that.

01:16:19.000 I would hope so.

01:16:20.000 I would hope so, too, because Axis deer are really delicious.

01:16:22.000 I bet.

01:16:23.000 But anyway, lanai's great because we would go and you could stay at the Four Seasons.

01:16:27.000 And then in the late afternoon, you go and bow hunt.

01:16:30.000 Bow hunt.

01:16:30.000 We used to do it in the morning, but the thing about it in the morning is it's so quiet.

01:16:34.000 They hear you.

01:16:35.000 Yeah, I've been successful in the morning.

01:16:37.000 I bet you're stealthy.

01:16:38.000 Yeah, you have to be.

01:16:39.000 You take your shoes off.

01:16:40.000 On your toes.

01:16:40.000 You take your shoes off.

01:16:41.000 Yeah, you go barefoot.

01:16:42.000 First time I went to Oahu, the grass on the feet was so nice.

01:16:46.000 It is nice.

01:16:47.000 And I still want to do some wild boar hunting there.

01:16:51.000 Well, if you want to go wild boar hunting, here's the spot right here, Alson.

01:16:55.000 Texas.

01:16:56.000 Right here.

01:16:56.000 Yeah.

01:16:57.000 John Hennessey, that dude who was here earlier.

01:16:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:59.000 John Hennessey was telling me that between Houston and I forget what other spot, it's apparently like this insane wild boar area where they mostly hunt them night with night vision goggles and rifles.

01:17:11.000 Dude, I remember my dad had a fucking VHS tape called Ferocious Tuskers. 0.73

01:17:19.000 And it was a bowie knife, wild boar hunting video. 0.99

01:17:24.000 Oh, so the dogs bite them.

01:17:25.000 The dogs, and they would climb into their burrows or whatever, their dens or whatever.

01:17:30.000 And it was so scary.

01:17:33.000 There's a bunch of little freaks running around, but it was a VHS tape that we used to watch.

01:17:37.000 It was the wildest thing.

01:17:39.000 But I think...

01:17:41.000 Man, cooking that, I cooked a wild boar over some coals for a bunch of surfers, and it was, like, incredible.

01:17:47.000 Like, cooking right on the, like, pipeline.

01:17:49.000 We should do something.

01:17:51.000 We'll film something like that for your show.

01:17:52.000 I don't do stuff.

01:17:53.000 I don't do stuff.

01:17:54.000 I'm busy.

01:17:54.000 I have six jobs.

01:17:55.000 I have six jobs.

01:17:56.000 That's what you just said.

01:17:57.000 What do you mean?

01:17:58.000 You just asked me to do something?

01:17:59.000 For your show.

01:18:00.000 Okay.

01:18:01.000 I said for your show.

01:18:02.000 Okay, for my show.

01:18:03.000 That's what I said.

01:18:03.000 Okay.

01:18:04.000 I thought you wanted to...

01:18:05.000 You were picking me a new show.

01:18:06.000 I thought you said for our show.

01:18:07.000 No, no, no.

01:18:08.000 For your show.

01:18:08.000 Joe and Maddie.

01:18:09.000 No, you have a cooking show?

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:11.000 Yeah.

01:18:11.000 Well, how about we get a wild boar and cook it for your show?

01:18:15.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:18:16.000 Okay, that's awesome.

01:18:17.000 You got so aggro on me.

01:18:18.000 Well, no, because I asked you about the movie and then you came at me, Joe.

01:18:22.000 I don't even think you asked me about a movie.

01:18:23.000 I think you talked to me about a movie and I said, I say no to everything.

01:18:25.000 Well, no, not a movie, like a miniseries, like transitional, me doing different martial arts.

01:18:30.000 And then I lose weight.

01:18:32.000 It's like a documentary on me becoming whatever.

01:18:35.000 Who cares?

01:18:36.000 Just work in silence.

01:18:37.000 Just work in silence.

01:18:37.000 Work in silence.

01:18:38.000 Get up early, set the alarm.

01:18:40.000 Write down a list of things that you do.

01:18:42.000 Burpees.

01:18:42.000 I hate burpees.

01:18:43.000 You don't have to do those.

01:18:44.000 I don't want to do burpees.

01:18:45.000 You don't have to do those.

01:18:45.000 I like doing Bulgarian split squats.

01:18:47.000 Oh, those are good.

01:18:48.000 I'm a Bulgarian split guy guy.

01:18:49.000 Okay.

01:18:50.000 I like doing deadlifts.

01:18:51.000 I like doing a lot of towel work.

01:18:54.000 With grip strength.

01:18:55.000 Okay.

01:18:56.000 I like doing...

01:18:57.000 I'm like a...

01:18:57.000 I have a good friend.

01:18:58.000 Shout out to Ben.

01:18:59.000 Do so.

01:19:00.000 He does a lot of like breath work and like resistance training and just like holds and stuff like that.

01:19:06.000 Like really intense buddy stuff.

01:19:08.000 You know, if you just do like some cardio with a movie on.

01:19:12.000 Here's the thing, man.

01:19:13.000 I got a Peloton.

01:19:14.000 I bought the Peloton.

01:19:15.000 Pelotons are great.

01:19:16.000 Can I get another one?

01:19:17.000 Those are so good.

01:19:19.000 They used to be a sponsor back in the day.

01:19:20.000 They used to be.

01:19:21.000 We had a Peloton at the old studio.

01:19:22.000 Wow.

01:19:23.000 The thing about Pelotons is so great is you're going along with people.

01:19:27.000 Like you're watching a video and you're going along with actual people.

01:19:29.000 Yeah, they're just talking about like ex-wives stuff.

01:19:30.000 It's incredible. 0.98

01:19:30.000 Well, they're fucking getting after it and you're getting after it with them and you get carried up in the momentum. 0.98

01:19:35.000 Super effective. 0.99

01:19:35.000 I was eating a pizza watching my roommate do it. 0.99

01:19:39.000 That doesn't help.

01:19:41.000 But one thing that does help is watch a movie and get on like an elliptical and just put a movie on.

01:19:47.000 Just put on Predator?

01:19:48.000 Yeah.

01:19:49.000 Put a movie on that's enjoyable, crank it up loud so you hear it over the sound of your voice, and just get on an elliptical and watch the movie.

01:19:56.000 It's a great way.

01:19:57.000 The elliptical's great, right? 1.00

01:19:57.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:19:58.000 I love the elliptical. 1.00

01:19:59.000 It's so low impact.

01:19:59.000 I love an assault bike.

01:20:01.000 Yeah.

01:20:01.000 I love an assault bike.

01:20:02.000 I love assault bikes.

01:20:03.000 But assault bikes are not casual.

01:20:05.000 And they're really loud.

01:20:06.000 It's hard to watch movies.

01:20:07.000 I like doing like 30 seconds.

01:20:08.000 Oh, bursts?

01:20:09.000 Yeah.

01:20:10.000 I do bursts.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, I do Tabatas.

01:20:12.000 See, I've started and stopped.

01:20:13.000 I would say truly...

01:20:16.000 Like four times.

01:20:17.000 So maybe it's like the attic thing.

01:20:18.000 Like you just need to just decide.

01:20:20.000 No, I think I honestly, I'm mentally getting there.

01:20:23.000 Where I got the, I'm like, there's no other excuses now.

01:20:26.000 The thing about it is you can talk about it till the end of time and that's what people love to do.

01:20:30.000 You just have to do it.

01:20:32.000 The only difference between doing it and not doing it is doing it, Joe. 0.99

01:20:35.000 Holy shit, that should be on a fortune cookie. 0.99

01:20:37.000 It's a good saying. 0.99

01:20:39.000 That's it being a meme.

01:20:41.000 It's a meme.

01:20:42.000 On someone's meme page.

01:20:43.000 Do you have a meme page?

01:20:45.000 I bet there's a Joe Rogan meme page.

01:20:46.000 There's all the pages.

01:20:47.000 How many different pages are there for Joe?

01:20:49.000 There's a lot of fake ones.

01:20:50.000 I know that. 1.00

01:20:51.000 So many fake losers. 0.97

01:20:52.000 But I'm just saying, just for activity, when you watch a movie with an elliptical machine or something like that, it's like it's not even happening. 0.98

01:20:59.000 No, you're just there.

01:21:00.000 You're in the movie, and you're doing 40 minutes of exercise.

01:21:04.000 Just walking.

01:21:04.000 Walking's great.

01:21:05.000 Walking's great.

01:21:06.000 Breathing.

01:21:07.000 Movies get you jazzed up.

01:21:08.000 Sometimes you get excited about it.

01:21:09.000 Like if you watch John Wick, that's my favorite.

01:21:11.000 John Wick, just breaking arms?

01:21:12.000 He's the new Steven Seagal, right? 0.89

01:21:14.000 He's shooting people more. 0.98

01:21:15.000 He's more shooting people. 0.82

01:21:16.000 Yeah, he does break a few arms.

01:21:18.000 I love a Steven Seagal arm break.

01:21:20.000 Like an elbow break.

01:21:21.000 Like he's always just snapping. 1.00

01:21:23.000 Yeah, like that shit's the best. 1.00

01:21:25.000 Oh, dude, Above the Law? 1.00

01:21:27.000 That's still a great fucking movie. 0.99

01:21:29.000 Go back and watch Above the Law. 0.99

01:21:30.000 Was that the one where Sharon Stone was in it? 0.94

01:21:32.000 Hot as the sun?

01:21:33.000 Back in the early days of Sharon Stone?

01:21:36.000 Wasn't she in that?

01:21:36.000 What was the movie where she moved her legs?

01:21:38.000 Wasn't Sharon Stone in that?

01:21:40.000 Sharon Stone's still so hot. 1.00

01:21:43.000 Pam Grier?

01:21:44.000 Is it Above the Law?

01:21:45.000 But Sharon Stone was in one of those movies.

01:21:47.000 She was in one of the early Steven Seagal movies.

01:21:50.000 And she was hot. 1.00

01:21:51.000 March for Death, perfect film.

01:21:52.000 Hot as the sun.

01:21:54.000 Like a hot, sweet, chili heat Cheeto.

01:21:57.000 Wasn't it, Sharon Stone?

01:22:01.000 Because she was a small character.

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:04.000 Wow.

01:22:05.000 Steven Segar was the shit, and she was the- She was a new one. 1.00

01:22:07.000 She was just his- Hot, hot, and in Hollywood. 1.00

01:22:11.000 His wife.

01:22:11.000 New to Hollywood.

01:22:12.000 There she is.

01:22:13.000 Ooh.

01:22:14.000 Back in the dizzy, son.

01:22:16.000 Look at that.

01:22:16.000 He's out there doing Aikido, and she's looking spicy.

01:22:19.000 Aikido!

01:22:20.000 She's looking spicy. 0.87

01:22:21.000 Is he real?

01:22:22.000 He's very good at Aikido.

01:22:24.000 He's very good at Aikido.

01:22:26.000 Not a lot of Aikido going on nowadays?

01:22:29.000 Listen, Aikido is good if no one knows anything. 0.90

01:22:31.000 If the other guy doesn't know shit and you know Aikido, it's good. 0.96

01:22:35.000 But the reality of Aikido is it's designed to disarm someone with a sword. 0.98

01:22:41.000 It was an art for, like when you're a samurai.

01:22:45.000 Let's see your samurai.

01:22:47.000 This is Miyamoto Musashi.

01:22:49.000 He's a famous Japanese samurai from the 1400s and he killed 62 men in one-on-one combat.

01:23:02.000 Yeah, and he wrote a book called Go Rind No Show, The Book of Five Rings, and it's all about strategy, and I read it when I was a kid.

01:23:09.000 I was obsessed with this guy when I was a kid, because when I was fighting, I was always looking for something to give me some sort of a psychological edge, and his book was all a book on it. 0.63

01:23:17.000 I was like, who better to teach you about psychology of fighting than a guy who beat 60 men in fucking sword fights? 0.84

01:23:24.000 And wrote about it. 0.99

01:23:25.000 Those were strong swords.

01:23:26.000 Well, he wrote about it in a really fascinating way.

01:23:29.000 His approach was that in order to be a great sword fighter, in order to be a great samurai, you have to be balanced.

01:23:36.000 You have to be an artist.

01:23:38.000 You have to be great at calligraphy.

01:23:39.000 You have to be great at poetry. 1.00

01:23:41.000 You have to have all your shit together. 1.00

01:23:44.000 You can't be all ego. 1.00

01:23:44.000 The five ranks. 1.00

01:23:45.000 Yeah.

01:23:48.000 Thing was, and this is one thing that he said that I always bring up that applies to everything I think in life.

01:23:54.000 Once you understand the way broadly, you see it in all things.

01:23:58.000 Right.

01:23:58.000 And he felt like doing all those things in some way was like cross-training for life.

01:24:02.000 Yes.

01:24:03.000 Like doing art and swordsmanship and learning.

01:24:07.000 I love that.

01:24:07.000 All these different things.

01:24:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:24:08.000 So it wasn't like you would think you just got to be the meanest, fastest, baddest motherfucker. 1.00

01:24:15.000 Right, right. 0.99

01:24:15.000 And that's how you beat all these people. 0.99

01:24:16.000 No.

01:24:17.000 It was not like that.

01:24:17.000 You need to know how to trim a tree or grow a flower.

01:24:21.000 You had to be in control of your ego.

01:24:23.000 A haiku.

01:24:24.000 You had to be artistic, and you had to be in control of you in all ways.

01:24:28.000 Not just in the hard way, but in the soft way.

01:24:31.000 You had to be able to be outside of yourself.

01:24:33.000 That's incredible.

01:24:34.000 Yeah, so that's my dog.

01:24:36.000 Yeah.

01:24:37.000 That's a good dog to have.

01:24:38.000 Well, I've always been obsessed by Japanese culture, period.

01:24:41.000 But his book was just like a massive influence on me when I was a kid.

01:24:47.000 How did I bring that up?

01:24:48.000 What was I talking about before?

01:24:50.000 Above the law.

01:24:51.000 Steven Seagal.

01:24:53.000 From Steven Seagal to somebody who's killed 62 people.

01:24:56.000 Well, Aikido was designed for, like if a samurai was in a sword fight, and the sword would go flying, and the guy was coming at you with a sword, you had to be able to take his energy and use it against him.

01:25:07.000 That was the idea of Aikido.

01:25:08.000 Aikido was not really designed to be the best one-on-one fight style.

01:25:13.000 Like, that's why the Japanese had karate and judo and jujitsu.

01:25:17.000 That was what they used all those arts for.

01:25:19.000 Aikido was pretty much specifically designed...

01:25:21.000 The art of taking away a weapon.

01:25:22.000 Yes.

01:25:23.000 It was designed to disarm someone.

01:25:26.000 But Steven Seagal was a legit Aikido master.

01:25:30.000 Like, absolutely 100% legit.

01:25:33.000 In fact, he was the first American to run a dojo in Japan.

01:25:37.000 Wow.

01:25:37.000 Speaks fluent Japanese.

01:25:39.000 Incredible.

01:25:40.000 Yeah, man.

01:25:41.000 I didn't know that.

01:25:42.000 I think it's Michael Eisner or one of those guys decided to make him a superstar and to put him into movies and make him a star.

01:25:50.000 Did he start doing the stunt stuff first?

01:25:53.000 No, he just did Above the Law.

01:25:54.000 Above the Law was his first movie.

01:25:56.000 He came out of nowhere.

01:25:58.000 Have you ever seen him run?

01:25:59.000 No.

01:26:00.000 What do you mean?

01:26:01.000 The way he runs is the weird- Does he have like a little- He does like a thing? 0.99

01:26:04.000 He's got the weirdest fucking run. 0.99

01:26:06.000 People make fun of his running. 0.99

01:26:08.000 It's a good running.

01:26:08.000 Well, he's a tall guy.

01:26:10.000 It's like a Will Ferrell could do a good running.

01:26:12.000 Oh, Steven's a good running.

01:26:12.000 Look, look.

01:26:13.000 It looks like he's running. 1.00

01:26:15.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:26:16.000 What's his arms doing? 1.00

01:26:17.000 I don't know exactly what's happening.

01:26:18.000 Is that good for his arms?

01:26:20.000 Well, it's not the worst running, but there's something about the shortness of the movement.

01:26:24.000 But I think it's because he's so used to using his arms for Aikido.

01:26:28.000 He keeps them tight.

01:26:29.000 There's just a weirdness to the way he runs.

01:26:32.000 He looks like he's rowing.

01:26:33.000 Yeah, he does this.

01:26:34.000 Look, he does that.

01:26:35.000 He looks like he's doing nunchucks.

01:26:36.000 But I think he's like revving up the engine.

01:26:38.000 There's a whole YouTube video like a speedwalker.

01:26:42.000 You're totally right.

01:26:43.000 That's what it is.

01:26:44.000 He runs like a speedwalker.

01:26:45.000 Look at him running up the hill.

01:26:46.000 Dude, hiking?

01:26:48.000 Yeah.

01:26:49.000 Well, he's got little baby steps.

01:26:51.000 For a guy with such long legs, he takes little baby steps.

01:26:53.000 Little baby steps.

01:26:54.000 A lot of little fast steps go...

01:26:56.000 Yeah.

01:26:57.000 Yeah.

01:26:57.000 But, as an Aikido master, pull up a video of him doing Aikido in Japan in the 1980s.

01:27:04.000 Oh my god.

01:27:05.000 Yeah.

01:27:06.000 What about like stick fighting and like that bruise, like Jeet Kune Do stuff?

01:27:09.000 Eskrima.

01:27:11.000 Yeah, that's legit.

01:27:12.000 I mean, it's certainly...

01:27:13.000 Have you done any like weapon fighting stuff?

01:27:15.000 I've learned how to do it in classes.

01:27:18.000 Someone's taught me how to do like some sort of Kali and Eskrima, but not, you know, I'm a white belt of that stuff. 0.92

01:27:23.000 I don't really know much about it.

01:27:26.000 With jiu-jitsu, you're like full black belt.

01:27:28.000 I have a black belt in gi jiu-jitsu and I have a black belt in no gi jiu-jitsu.

01:27:33.000 Right.

01:27:34.000 I have a black belt from John Jock Machado in the gi and Eddie Bravo with no gi.

01:27:37.000 Okay, cool.

01:27:38.000 And I have a black belt in taekwondo.

01:27:40.000 I took taekwondo.

01:27:40.000 I took taekwondo when I was a kid.

01:27:42.000 I gave up.

01:27:43.000 It's good for kids.

01:27:44.000 Like the little kids throwing kicks and punches at each other.

01:27:46.000 I want to get my kid into that. 0.68

01:27:47.000 I bought him like a punch ball, like a punch thing.

01:27:49.000 Mac loves it.

01:27:50.000 He puts the boxing gloves on.

01:27:51.000 Okay, 93. Great.

01:27:52.000 Here we go.

01:27:53.000 Perfect.

01:27:53.000 So this is right before he became famous.

01:27:56.000 Or it might have been like right around when he was becoming famous.

01:27:58.000 And this is in Japan.

01:27:59.000 This is in Japan.

01:28:00.000 And I'm telling you, dude, if you watch any kind of legitimate Aikido demonstration, he is as good as any you'll ever see.

01:28:08.000 He's absolutely legit.

01:28:12.000 I love it. 0.98

01:28:13.000 See, the thing is, like, most of this shit is not gonna work in the real world. 0.99

01:28:16.000 Right. 0.99

01:28:17.000 It looks like these look like those videos of those people just, like, doing the flips.

01:28:20.000 This isn't the best one.

01:28:21.000 There's some from his dojo.

01:28:24.000 This is just a demonstration.

01:28:24.000 But it's, like, six foot!

01:28:25.000 These people are, like, five foot versus, like, a 6'5 guy.

01:28:28.000 Well, it's, you know, traditionally Japanese folks are thought to be, like, of smaller stature.

01:28:33.000 Right.

01:28:33.000 Except for a few, there's a few odd guys that are really giant.

01:28:36.000 Right. 0.97

01:28:37.000 But he's just throwing this dude around, like, clothes lining him and shit. 0.89

01:28:41.000 But I'm telling you, he's a legit Aikido master. 0.86

01:28:44.000 Right, right. 0.99

01:28:44.000 And I mean, he's a silly man in a lot of ways. 0.99

01:28:47.000 Right. 0.99

01:28:47.000 A lot of his stuff is silly, but when it goes to his... 0.99

01:28:50.000 Okay, here he is. 0.93

01:28:51.000 Now, this is him...

01:28:52.000 And that's his master?

01:28:54.000 This is him in his dojo in Japan.

01:28:56.000 See, he's significantly younger here.

01:28:58.000 This really looks like it was shot in like the 1630s or something. 0.97

01:29:02.000 Well, someone probably fucked with it to try to make it look. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Look at that, like all that shit. 1.00

01:29:06.000 This is all legit stuff. 1.00

01:29:07.000 He's like, come at me, come at me.

01:29:09.000 Yeah, see?

01:29:09.000 But see, that's much better.

01:29:11.000 That's a thing.

01:29:12.000 But see how he just did that?

01:29:13.000 The guy came at him with a knife and he disarmed him.

01:29:15.000 That is the whole purpose of Aikido, right there.

01:29:19.000 That was what Aikido was designed for.

01:29:21.000 And this is legit.

01:29:22.000 The way he's doing it, this is legit.

01:29:24.000 This is about as legit an application of Aikido as you're ever going to see.

01:29:27.000 Because that is literally exactly what it's designed for.

01:29:30.000 And he is masterful at it.

01:29:32.000 What is the oldest martial art?

01:29:35.000 They don't really know.

01:29:36.000 Maybe Kung Fu?

01:29:37.000 They don't really know.

01:29:39.000 It's so hard to see because there's some ancient drawings of people doing some sort of kicking and punching.

01:29:48.000 And China is probably the birthplace of most martial arts, because it's probably the oldest culture.

01:29:54.000 But Japan refined it.

01:29:56.000 Japan took And Japan with Jiu Jitsu is maybe before Brazilian Jiu Jitsu?

01:30:03.000 Yes, 100%.

01:30:04.000 No, no.

01:30:04.000 Okay, so it did start in Japan.

01:30:06.000 Count Maeda came to Brazil in the early 1900s and he taught Carlos and Elio Gracie.

01:30:12.000 They took Jiu Jitsu and turned it into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

01:30:16.000 They refined it and made it much more about leverage and much more about technique and they concentrated more on the ground.

01:30:23.000 Like, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu has a lot of throws in it.

01:30:25.000 It's almost like Niwaza from Judo, which is like the ground fighting of Judo.

01:30:30.000 But the Brazilians took Jiu-Jitsu to a whole new place.

01:30:34.000 And they completely changed the art form.

01:30:37.000 But they learned it from Japanese.

01:30:40.000 From Count Maeda, and there's a guy named Kimura who came to Japan.

01:30:44.000 Yeah, he came from Japan.

01:30:45.000 That's where it came from.

01:30:46.000 That submission came from him using that submission on Elio Gracie and breaking his arm.

01:30:53.000 Yeah, you can watch the match.

01:30:55.000 It's a black and white match from the early 1900s.

01:30:57.000 Where Kimura, who was much bigger than Elio.

01:31:00.000 See, Elio was a small guy.

01:31:01.000 He was like 147 pounds.

01:31:03.000 And he was, you know, going against these guys who were like 200 pounds.

01:31:06.000 And he had to use, like, leverage and you had to wait till they get tired.

01:31:10.000 He would wear them out and then eventually catch them in submissions.

01:31:13.000 That was his thing.

01:31:14.000 That was his thing.

01:31:15.000 But it's like martial arts have gone through this crazy evolution.

01:31:19.000 And then Thailand, they had a totally different evolution. 0.87

01:31:21.000 Like they figured out kicking the legs, and they figured out a much more effective style of kickboxing.

01:31:27.000 And then they figured out a style where they gambled on it.

01:31:30.000 So they had all these people in the ring, and then they had everyone around.

01:31:33.000 They would be like making bets.

01:31:34.000 Muay Thai is banana town. 1.00

01:31:35.000 It's bananas, man.

01:31:36.000 It's wild.

01:31:37.000 Carnage? 1.00

01:31:37.000 Do you know fucking Carnage? 1.00

01:31:40.000 Oh yeah, Corbett. 1.00

01:31:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:31:43.000 So you can just say his nickname and I know him.

01:31:45.000 I'm just like Carnage.

01:31:46.000 You know Carnage, Nate?

01:31:47.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:31:48.000 Psychopath. 0.99

01:31:48.000 Nathan Corbett's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

01:31:50.000 Dude, I met him once again through the Ruka dudes, and it's just like, watching his highlight reel, I'm sitting with this guy. 0.99

01:31:58.000 So once again, I love that I don't really know too much, so that you can meet people on these genuine kind of places, these good starting grounds.

01:32:05.000 So I'm like...

01:32:06.000 First time I went to Hawaii, I cooked for everybody for Ruka and surfers and MMA people and all these people are there.

01:32:13.000 I'm like, I don't know who anybody is.

01:32:14.000 I don't know who Kelly Slater is. 0.99

01:32:15.000 I don't know who fucking... 0.99

01:32:17.000 Shout out to my boy Kelly. 1.00

01:32:18.000 There you go.

01:32:19.000 Bring him to the ranch.

01:32:20.000 Get me on a 14. I need a sup or something.

01:32:23.000 Bring me to the ranch, okay?

01:32:24.000 What ranch?

01:32:25.000 Doesn't he have the surf ranch?

01:32:26.000 Oh, okay.

01:32:27.000 Okay, the ranch.

01:32:28.000 Oh, any ranch.

01:32:28.000 I'll go to any ranch.

01:32:29.000 I'll go to any ranch.

01:32:30.000 I thought we were back to the wild pigs.

01:32:32.000 Anyway.

01:32:32.000 I'll bring a wild pig to the store for a ranch.

01:32:34.000 Anyway, but I'm like sitting across.

01:32:36.000 Anyway, we're after whatever.

01:32:37.000 We're just literally just hanging out.

01:32:39.000 I'm just like, what do you do?

01:32:41.000 I'm just like, I love going to Australia.

01:32:43.000 I've been to Australia like seven times.

01:32:45.000 Got a big, you know, a good crew down there.

01:32:47.000 And he's just like, oh, man.

01:32:49.000 He's like, I'm like a Muay Thai kickboxer.

01:32:52.000 I was like, oh, crazy?

01:32:53.000 I was like, oh, yeah, your face is kind of, okay.

01:32:55.000 Got some scars.

01:32:56.000 Yeah, I was just like, okay.

01:32:57.000 Nose is a little busted up.

01:32:57.000 And he was just like, yeah, check out my little highlight reel.

01:33:00.000 Yeah, he cuts a lot of guys up.

01:33:03.000 Bruh, his elbows?

01:33:05.000 Oh, yeah, that was he's famous for.

01:33:06.000 He fought in glory for a bit, but the thing about glory is they don't allow elbows.

01:33:10.000 Man, it is so vicious.

01:33:11.000 Best weapons.

01:33:12.000 And I'm sitting across the table from this guy, and I watch this thing, and you're just like, oh, you're an 11-time world champion.

01:33:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:21.000 Sitting across from me talking about bullshit, and I was just like, oh, you're a psychopath. 1.00

01:33:27.000 Well, he's a competitor. 1.00

01:33:28.000 Yeah, he's a champion.

01:33:30.000 Well, champions are... 0.99

01:33:31.000 Most of them are psychos. 0.98

01:33:32.000 Yeah, right? 0.71

01:33:33.000 In a good way.

01:33:34.000 I remember at a young age, my dad teaching us how to box a little bit and fight, and I remember he always would say, he's like, punch through the face.

01:33:43.000 He's like, you want to extend through the face.

01:33:47.000 He's like, think about punching the back of their head. 1.00

01:33:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:33:51.000 Shout out to Big Steve.

01:33:54.000 That's what Kamaru Usman did to Jorge Masvidal this weekend.

01:33:57.000 He punched through his face.

01:33:59.000 It was a perfect example of that. 0.90

01:34:01.000 The chin into the shoulder.

01:34:02.000 He put him to sleep.

01:34:03.000 But the way he hit him, he went through him.

01:34:06.000 Yes.

01:34:07.000 That's a freight train.

01:34:09.000 That was probably the best one-punch knockout I've ever seen in my life.

01:34:13.000 Was that the first strike?

01:34:15.000 No.

01:34:15.000 No, no, no.

01:34:16.000 It was the second round.

01:34:17.000 It was the second round, okay.

01:34:18.000 Yeah, I think.

01:34:19.000 I was in bed.

01:34:19.000 Pretty sure it was the second round.

01:34:20.000 I was in bed.

01:34:21.000 But the thing!

01:34:21.000 It was a perfect punch.

01:34:23.000 If you wanted to Google the perfect punch.

01:34:25.000 That is the perfect punch.

01:34:26.000 That's the perfect punch.

01:34:27.000 And then what about Rose?

01:34:29.000 Rose's kick.

01:34:29.000 It was the perfect punch.

01:34:30.000 Perfect kick.

01:34:31.000 Perfect kick.

01:34:31.000 Yeah, perfect.

01:34:32.000 Didn't see it coming, landed right in the jaw, put her out, first round, early in the fight. 0.75

01:34:38.000 So intense.

01:34:38.000 And not only that, a woman in that lady, Zhang Weili, who's thought to be the most durable and physically aggressive girl in the sport.

01:34:47.000 She's a monster. 1.00

01:34:48.000 Right. 0.99

01:34:48.000 You ever watch that lady train? 0.99

01:34:50.000 No.

01:34:50.000 Oh, my God.

01:34:51.000 She trains hard.

01:34:52.000 Do you want to feel lazy?

01:34:53.000 Yes.

01:34:53.000 Watch Zhang Weili train.

01:34:55.000 Yes.

01:34:55.000 It's like, hot, hot!

01:34:57.000 All day.

01:34:58.000 All day.

01:34:58.000 Oh my god.

01:34:59.000 I mean just the intensity and the physicality like she's so strong and aggressive.

01:35:04.000 Yeah, she's all sinew. 1.00

01:35:05.000 She's all sinew. 1.00

01:35:06.000 For Rose to kick her in the face like that. 1.00

01:35:09.000 Interviewing Rose after the fight was the first time I ever openly cried while I was interviewing somebody.

01:35:13.000 Like tears were coming down my face.

01:35:15.000 I couldn't stop it.

01:35:17.000 It's real.

01:35:18.000 Rose is special.

01:35:19.000 She's special.

01:35:19.000 Rose is special.

01:35:20.000 She's a super sweet person too.

01:35:22.000 She is.

01:35:23.000 I couldn't believe it.

01:35:24.000 She's one of those people that, like, she followed me on Instagram, like, years ago, and I DM'd her, and I was just like, why do you, like, sometimes I'm, like, amazed.

01:35:32.000 I'm just like, why do you follow, like, is this, like, you, or is this, like, a thing?

01:35:36.000 And she was like, I love your videos.

01:35:38.000 You make me laugh.

01:35:39.000 Me and my husband, like, love watching your videos.

01:35:41.000 I was just like, crazy.

01:35:42.000 I was just like, this is amazing.

01:35:44.000 Do you have imposter syndrome sometimes where you don't believe it?

01:35:47.000 100% every day.

01:35:47.000 Are you kidding me?

01:35:48.000 I do, too.

01:35:49.000 Every day.

01:35:49.000 Why am I here?

01:35:50.000 Why are you here?

01:35:52.000 Why are we all here?

01:35:53.000 I don't know.

01:35:54.000 When you DM'd me, I was in a quarantine situation getting back into Canada.

01:36:00.000 And I'm laying in my bed, and you DM'd me.

01:36:02.000 It was about midnight my time.

01:36:05.000 I got back from LA, and I was so stoked. 0.76

01:36:09.000 I did Tiger Belly, I did Whiskey Ginger, and I was just like, man, I'm fucking doing big podcasts.

01:36:16.000 I'm friends with these dudes now, and I'm so stoked. 0.97

01:36:18.000 Santino's been such a good friend, and Bobby is such a fucking homie. 1.00

01:36:23.000 I love both those guys. 0.97

01:36:24.000 Santino's here tomorrow.

01:36:25.000 Dude, incredible comic.

01:36:27.000 Incredible person.

01:36:28.000 He's a great friend. 0.99

01:36:29.000 He is fucking funny. 0.99

01:36:31.000 He's really funny. 1.00

01:36:31.000 He's fucking... 1.00

01:36:32.000 I really like watching him fucking do stand-up. 0.99

01:36:36.000 And when I got that DM, I was like... 0.99

01:36:41.000 And it is one of those things where you're like, huh, crazy.

01:36:44.000 And then I'm getting pumped up, coming down here.

01:36:46.000 I'm like, okay.

01:36:48.000 It's like you're getting ready for a fight.

01:36:51.000 You're like, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do that.

01:36:52.000 And then I'm going to say this joke.

01:36:54.000 And then I'm going to rub him up. 1.00

01:36:55.000 And then I'm going to grab his nipples. 1.00

01:36:56.000 And then I'm going to get him to fucking talk about my podcast on his podcast. 1.00

01:37:01.000 And then I'm going to do all these things. 0.98

01:37:02.000 And I'm going to talk about how I did jujitsu once.

01:37:06.000 And we'll get there.

01:37:07.000 And I got tired out.

01:37:08.000 The shrimps got me.

01:37:10.000 Just doing shrimps was tough on the big dog.

01:37:13.000 Did you shrimp on the ground?

01:37:14.000 I was doing shrimps on the ground.

01:37:15.000 I was in Philly with some dudes.

01:37:18.000 You know Mark Vetri and those guys out in Philly?

01:37:21.000 Italian chef, great chef.

01:37:22.000 He just became a black belt with precision out there.

01:37:26.000 Who's teaching you how to shrimp?

01:37:28.000 Well, we were doing like a chef conference with like a bunch of, not a chef conference, but like an event.

01:37:34.000 Alex's lemonade stand.

01:37:35.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:35.000 So we were doing like a big cancer for kids thing.

01:37:39.000 And he was like, hey, open call.

01:37:41.000 Anybody that wants to come do jujitsu, we do it every morning.

01:37:44.000 And I was just like, okay, I'll go like 6 a.m.

01:37:46.000 Like, I want to try this.

01:37:47.000 And I went and we took, it was so funny.

01:37:50.000 I was just like, warm up.

01:37:51.000 I was dusted.

01:37:52.000 And then...

01:37:53.000 I got a gi on.

01:37:54.000 The gi barely fits me, because obviously they don't have any large gis, because they're all in shape.

01:37:59.000 And then the one guy, it was so funny, there was no belts that fit me, so the one guy had this big purple belt, and he gave me a purple belt.

01:38:05.000 And so we took a photo after the thing, and my Instagram was like, you're a purple belt?

01:38:10.000 We knew it, Matty!

01:38:11.000 And so many people were just like, oh my god!

01:38:14.000 And then some people are like, there's no way this guy's a purple belt.

01:38:17.000 And then I was just like, I'm not a purple belt, okay, anybody?

01:38:21.000 But I did jiu-jitsu there.

01:38:23.000 But Alex, who do I do, he just became a blue belt.

01:38:27.000 And he's doing it at the Undefeated Gym in LA. Oh, nice.

01:38:32.000 And so he just got his blue belt, and we were talking about imposter syndrome.

01:38:36.000 He was just like, because we always make fun, he always says he's a tough white belt. 0.99

01:38:39.000 And so he's like, but now I'm a shit blue belt. 0.94

01:38:43.000 You know, so it's always like that humbling moment, and there's always like that moment in time where you're like, I don't, why do I deserve that? 0.97

01:38:49.000 He's like, I should have worked hard, I should be a better white belt to get that blue belt, actually.

01:38:53.000 He's like, I could still work harder at being a white belt to get that blue. 0.55

01:38:58.000 And I think that is the thing where most of the time, my brain is always saying, no, why do you have this?

01:39:04.000 Why do you have restaurants?

01:39:07.000 Why do you have this?

01:39:08.000 Why do you have books? 1.00

01:39:10.000 Why do you have all this bullshit? 1.00

01:39:11.000 You don't deserve this, you're a fucking loser. 1.00

01:39:14.000 And I'm just like, I'm not a loser! 1.00

01:39:16.000 Shut up! 1.00

01:39:17.000 I'm not a fucking loser! 1.00

01:39:18.000 I gotta pump my own brakes, man! 1.00

01:39:20.000 Or pump my own tires! 0.99

01:39:21.000 Whatever the fuck I'm pumping! 0.99

01:39:23.000 But it's just like... 1.00

01:39:23.000 Your gas? 1.00

01:39:24.000 I'm all gas, baby.

01:39:25.000 Pump your gas. 1.00

01:39:26.000 I'm pumping my fucking gas. 1.00

01:39:27.000 I'm gonna rev up. 0.99

01:39:28.000 I'm gonna rev up.

01:39:30.000 You want to rev up? 1.00

01:39:31.000 Let's get some more fucking black rifle. 1.00

01:39:33.000 I think we are revved up. 1.00

01:39:34.000 We're revved up.

01:39:35.000 What's going on, Joe?

01:39:36.000 How are you today?

01:39:37.000 I'm good.

01:39:38.000 I think that's the reason why you have that.

01:39:40.000 Yeah, sure.

01:39:40.000 Thank you.

01:39:41.000 I think the reason why you have that feeling, that imposter syndrome, most sane people that become successful do have that.

01:39:48.000 Right.

01:39:49.000 You know, because it doesn't make sense, especially like when you're young, you never thought you'd be successful, and then all of a sudden you are, and you're like, is this even real?

01:39:57.000 I remember...

01:39:59.000 I wanted to get to a financial point where I didn't want to check my bank app to fill up my gas.

01:40:05.000 That was a big moment in my life.

01:40:08.000 Me and Greg Fitzsimmons.

01:40:08.000 You know Greg Fitzsimmons?

01:40:09.000 I don't.

01:40:11.000 Hilarious stand-up comic.

01:40:12.000 We started out together, and one of the things we always talked about was that one day we would get to a place where we could pay our bills with comedy.

01:40:18.000 That's all we wanted to do.

01:40:19.000 We wanted to be professionals.

01:40:21.000 Imagine you didn't have to have a regular job.

01:40:23.000 You could just pay your bills with comedy.

01:40:26.000 Oh, I remember thinking that.

01:40:26.000 Well, comedy you don't even get paid.

01:40:28.000 Right?

01:40:28.000 Until you're like, what, a headline?

01:40:30.000 Like, do you get paid for five minutes?

01:40:31.000 Yeah, well, you get a little bit, depending on which club it is.

01:40:34.000 You know, it depends on where you're at.

01:40:36.000 Like, clubs in New York, they'll have people do shorter sets, and clubs in LA, sometimes you do 15, so you make like 25 bucks at the Comedy Store if you do 15. But if you do, like...

01:40:45.000 It's incredible. 0.82

01:40:46.000 It's ridiculous, yeah. 0.99

01:40:48.000 Buck a minute. 0.99

01:40:49.000 Buck 25 a minute, right?

01:40:51.000 You know, there's a different... 0.98

01:40:52.000 To go up there and just die on stage.

01:40:53.000 It's a different thing, because it's a place where...

01:40:56.000 Like, the Comedy Store in L.A. was always our gym.

01:40:58.000 It's a place where we worked out.

01:41:00.000 So it wasn't really about making money.

01:41:01.000 We'd make our money on the road.

01:41:02.000 Right.

01:41:03.000 But...

01:41:03.000 When you go on the road, you know, if you're lucky, you'll get a guy who's a headliner who'll take you with him on the road.

01:41:10.000 So, like, say if you're starting out and you're a host or an opening act, someone will take you with them and then they'll let you, they'll say, hey, just do 10 minutes and then bring up the middle act and then you'll get to watch the middle act and go, someday, someday I'll be the middle act.

01:41:22.000 And then one day you're the middle act and you watch the headliner and you're like, someday.

01:41:26.000 And then someday, one day you're the headliner and then one day people are actually coming to see you.

01:41:30.000 And one day they introduce you and people cheer and you're like, what?

01:41:33.000 What?

01:41:33.000 Is this real?

01:41:34.000 The cheering's crazy, right?

01:41:35.000 Bizarre.

01:41:36.000 Dude, I... What, two years ago?

01:41:38.000 Two years ago, I guess now, I started doing a spoken word tour.

01:41:44.000 Oh, boy.

01:41:45.000 Bourdain did a lot of those.

01:41:46.000 He loved doing those.

01:41:47.000 Once again, very afraid to go to those.

01:41:50.000 You know?

01:41:50.000 I was like, I'm gonna...

01:41:52.000 Yeah, fuck. 1.00

01:41:53.000 He's such a beauty. 1.00

01:41:55.000 And...

01:41:56.000 I was like, I'm gonna go on stage, and I wanted to start doing tours. 0.97

01:42:01.000 And nobody even knew what the fuck they were.

01:42:03.000 And I started in small bars, and by the end of like, I did about 50 shows in a year. 0.98

01:42:11.000 And It was crazy.

01:42:13.000 It went from 200 people, which is still amazing.

01:42:16.000 No openers, no nothing.

01:42:18.000 People thought I was going to do cooking demos.

01:42:20.000 And I went on stage and did a spoken word for about an hour and a half.

01:42:24.000 Wow.

01:42:25.000 Did you plan it out?

01:42:26.000 No.

01:42:27.000 Really?

01:42:27.000 First night was the first night I spoke on stage.

01:42:31.000 No planning, no fucking notes. 0.99

01:42:32.000 How many people in the audience? 1.00

01:42:34.000 200. Maybe more.

01:42:36.000 Probably more.

01:42:37.000 The whole thing was sold out.

01:42:39.000 It was just the smaller venues.

01:42:41.000 We started at small venues to amp up.

01:42:43.000 What does it feel like?

01:42:44.000 How did you start? 0.98

01:42:46.000 I was just like, I walked out, I was like, you fucking, like, I just started, like, chirping the crowd a little bit, and, like, working the crowd, and being like, where the fuck are you from? 0.97

01:42:53.000 I'm like, I'm in, my first show was in Boston, in this, like, little dive bar, and it was so incredible. 0.99

01:42:58.000 I was just like, what the fuck is up with Boston? 1.00

01:43:00.000 You guys are fucking all racist, you're fucking losers, you all sound like you're from Southie, I was just like, whatever, making jokes. 1.00

01:43:06.000 And I was just like, and then I was just like, okay, who thought I was gonna cook? 1.00

01:43:10.000 And everyone's like, and I'm like, why would I cook? 1.00

01:43:12.000 You stupid fucks. 1.00

01:43:13.000 Why would I cook? 1.00

01:43:15.000 What am I gonna do?

01:43:15.000 Come on stage and make an omelette and share it with everybody?

01:43:19.000 It's like, no, we're here to fucking, I'm here to fucking figure out what the fuck I'm doing here. 0.99

01:43:24.000 And I honestly, like, we built out, by like show three, I had a solid hour and a half. 0.99

01:43:30.000 Really?

01:43:30.000 And I just started, and then I started doing it, and the biggest, I think I did like a 2,000 cap room, and it was like crazy.

01:43:38.000 Wow.

01:43:39.000 And I was just like, this is so wild.

01:43:41.000 I was like, with no prep, and I was like, this is great.

01:43:43.000 And I had a three month tour booked.

01:43:46.000 One of the, part of the six months I had booked was I had a three month world tour booked.

01:43:51.000 Wow!

01:43:52.000 So you're just going to do this kind of stuff, but do it all over the place?

01:43:55.000 Yeah!

01:43:56.000 Well, I did Australia, I did New Zealand, I did, you know...

01:44:00.000 Now, when you do 2,000 seats, do you have it prepared?

01:44:03.000 Like, the stories you're going to tell, the things you're going to talk about?

01:44:05.000 No!

01:44:08.000 We go on stage and I just start talking. 0.98

01:44:09.000 That's so ridiculous.

01:44:10.000 I have a baseline that I work on, and I go on and off, and I have tangents that I can run off of, and I've built out this timeline of my life, and I tell these stories throughout my life. 0.96

01:44:21.000 If you just tell the drug stories, I feel like.

01:44:23.000 Bro, I have this one story that's incredible where we stole $16,000 from my parents.

01:44:30.000 My dad was an entrepreneur at one point, so we had a lot of money.

01:44:33.000 So I stole some money.

01:44:35.000 We gave it to my friend who drove to Vancouver, bought a pound of cocaine, then an uncut brick.

01:44:42.000 One pound of cocaine.

01:44:44.000 How much does that cost?

01:44:45.000 $16,000.

01:44:46.000 That's it?

01:44:46.000 At that time.

01:44:47.000 This is like $2,000.

01:44:49.000 Give her more. 0.54

01:44:50.000 More?

01:44:50.000 No, I was just saying it sounded like it was about $16,000.

01:44:53.000 Yeah, it's about $16,000.

01:44:57.000 Have you done coke?

01:44:58.000 You've never done cocaine?

01:44:59.000 That's incredible.

01:45:02.000 Because I find it very fascinating to meet people that haven't done cocaine.

01:45:06.000 I haven't done coke.

01:45:07.000 That's incredible.

01:45:09.000 Have you?

01:45:10.000 Never.

01:45:11.000 Nope.

01:45:12.000 See, I think that it's an interesting thing to me. 0.97

01:45:15.000 For some reason, because I'm just like, weird, you never wanted to fucking crack it. 0.69

01:45:20.000 When I was in high school, one of my best friends had a cousin that had a real problem. 0.76

01:45:25.000 Right.

01:45:25.000 And I watched him fall apart from coke.

01:45:27.000 It scares you.

01:45:28.000 I had a couple other people around me that also had coke problems, and I was back then like super straight edge.

01:45:34.000 Yeah.

01:45:34.000 Like I'm gonna be a winner.

01:45:36.000 I'm gonna get my shit together. 1.00

01:45:37.000 Like my biggest fear, my biggest fear in life was being a loser. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Yeah. 0.61

01:45:41.000 My number one fear. 0.61

01:45:41.000 It's the only reason why I went to college. 0.61

01:45:43.000 Yeah.

01:45:43.000 So that people didn't feel like I was a loser.

01:45:45.000 Stay home. 0.94

01:45:45.000 The stay home guy. 0.94

01:45:46.000 I'm going to stay home for a summer.

01:45:48.000 I'm going to take a year off.

01:45:49.000 I did take a year off.

01:45:50.000 I took a year off and that was a humiliating year. 0.99

01:45:53.000 You were a loser for that year. 0.99

01:45:54.000 That was the only year. 0.98

01:45:56.000 Well, I was a loser after that too because I was broke.

01:45:59.000 Even though I was like, if I had to explain to people, like, what are you doing? 0.97

01:46:03.000 I travel around the country kicking people in the face.

01:46:05.000 There was no money in that. 0.89

01:46:06.000 I was broke.

01:46:08.000 I'm getting paid nothing to go and fight people. 0.79

01:46:10.000 No health insurance and I was kicking people in the face for fun.

01:46:12.000 That was my number one.

01:46:14.000 And then I was like, okay, I gotta figure out what to do with my life.

01:46:16.000 But that fear of not being a loser was why I never did coke.

01:46:21.000 Because I saw this guy lose his life.

01:46:24.000 He lost his weight, got real skinny and pale, and him and his girlfriend just...

01:46:28.000 Probably wasn't doing too much coke.

01:46:29.000 He was probably doing a little meth and stuff, too.

01:46:31.000 There was no meth back then.

01:46:32.000 No?

01:46:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:32.000 It was the 80s.

01:46:33.000 Nobody had meth from the 80s unless they didn't and weren't telling anybody yet.

01:46:37.000 I don't know.

01:46:37.000 They're somewhere around in the 90s.

01:46:39.000 They definitely had pills.

01:46:41.000 People had amphetamines for sure, but I don't think they had crystal.

01:46:44.000 No.

01:46:45.000 Yeah, drugs are bad, but the...

01:46:47.000 M'kay.

01:46:48.000 M'kay. 0.99

01:46:49.000 But I had this bit about fucking... 0.99

01:46:51.000 About the pound of coke. 0.99

01:46:52.000 I'm sorry, I interrupted you.

01:46:54.000 No, no, Joe.

01:46:55.000 We never interrupt.

01:46:56.000 Okay.

01:46:56.000 There's a pound.

01:46:57.000 We got a pound of cocaine.

01:46:58.000 What does it look like?

01:46:58.000 How big is a pound of coke?

01:46:59.000 It's like, you know, it's like a movie.

01:47:03.000 It's like a thing. 0.99

01:47:04.000 We had this, like, fucking... 0.99

01:47:05.000 Like a movie scene? 0.99

01:47:06.000 Yeah, it is. 1.00

01:47:07.000 It's like a pack of fucking shit. 1.00

01:47:08.000 So he had to go buy it. 1.00

01:47:09.000 Then he had to drive back. 0.99

01:47:10.000 And it was back when we had fucking flip phones. 1.00

01:47:12.000 So, like, T9 texting and fucking Razor Motorolas and fucking shit. 1.00

01:47:17.000 And so, nobody could... 1.00

01:47:18.000 Still, even with that, communication was very shit. 0.99

01:47:21.000 And so... 0.98

01:47:23.000 We were like, text us every day.

01:47:24.000 It's a four day drive back from Vancouver. 0.99

01:47:27.000 So text us every fucking day. 0.99

01:47:29.000 Four days with a pound of coke. 1.00

01:47:30.000 In his car door.

01:47:31.000 In his car door.

01:47:32.000 So he's like, unscrewed his car door, put the, you know, duct tape it in.

01:47:36.000 Oh my god.

01:47:37.000 And it's me and my friends in college, we all got this like, whatever, there's like...

01:47:41.000 Going the speed limit.

01:47:43.000 Well, this is the best thing.

01:47:44.000 So like on the last day, he texts us and he's like, I'm leaving Thunder Bay.

01:47:47.000 Thunder Bay is about 18 hours from Toronto.

01:47:50.000 So it's northern, most northern part, right?

01:47:53.000 It borders like Winnipeg. 0.99

01:47:54.000 And it's like the northern part of fucking Ontario. 0.99

01:47:57.000 18 hour drive home. 0.99

01:47:58.000 And we're like, it's coming home.

01:48:00.000 And we're all like cheerleaders.

01:48:01.000 We're like, let's go.

01:48:02.000 Let's go.

01:48:03.000 Boys, boys.

01:48:05.000 We're all just like, let's go!

01:48:07.000 And the amazing thing was, all of a sudden, we're all getting ramped up.

01:48:13.000 We're like, tomorrow it's going to be here. 0.99

01:48:14.000 It's going to be here fucking tomorrow. 0.99

01:48:15.000 We're all fucking dropping out of college. 0.99

01:48:17.000 This is going to be the greatest decision of our lives. 0.99

01:48:19.000 We just bought a pound of cocaine.

01:48:21.000 But the idea was to sell it because we were going to make like $30,000.

01:48:24.000 We step on it like three times, sell little baggies.

01:48:28.000 We're going to get rich.

01:48:30.000 And he texts us, just got pulled over. 1.00

01:48:34.000 And we're just like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

01:48:37.000 And I was just like... 1.00

01:48:39.000 We're gonna have to kill him. 1.00

01:48:41.000 We're gonna... 1.00

01:48:41.000 Like, instantly I'm just like, we're gonna have to kill him. 1.00

01:48:43.000 If he says my name, or if he says... 1.00

01:48:45.000 We're gonna have to kill our friend. 1.00

01:48:47.000 He's gonna rat on us. 1.00

01:48:48.000 He's not strong enough. 0.99

01:48:49.000 He's not mentally strong enough to get the fuzz off his back.

01:48:52.000 And he's like, I just got pulled over.

01:48:54.000 Then, we're like...

01:48:56.000 Okay, nobody text him, because then they'll have our numbers.

01:48:58.000 And we're like, why did he even text us? 1.00

01:48:59.000 We're like, fuck. 0.99

01:49:00.000 We're all like freaking... 1.00

01:49:00.000 We're like, do we boil our phones? 1.00

01:49:02.000 What do we do here?

01:49:03.000 Yeah, Jesus Christ.

01:49:04.000 Then all of a sudden he's like...

01:49:06.000 He calls our old roommate Dougie and he literally is like, dude, I got pulled over and there was like a snowstorm kind of and my windshield wiper flew off and I was using my arm driving like half the speed limit and I got pulled over because the cop is now going to drive me to a garage so I can fix my windshield wiper.

01:49:28.000 Good cop.

01:49:29.000 And I was just like, hey, okay, okay.

01:49:32.000 Still got the cocaine in the car.

01:49:33.000 He's like, cocaine's great.

01:49:34.000 Just following this police officer to a garage to fix my windshield wiper.

01:49:39.000 And I was like, why don't you just pull over?

01:49:40.000 The windshield wiper's gone.

01:49:42.000 You got the pound of cocaine. 1.00

01:49:43.000 Why don't you bring it back to the fucking... 1.00

01:49:44.000 Get off the road! 1.00

01:49:46.000 You know?

01:49:47.000 It's a snowstorm.

01:49:48.000 Driving a 94 Camry. 0.99

01:49:50.000 Like, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

01:49:51.000 You know? 0.99

01:49:51.000 Like, it's just like one of those things. 0.99

01:49:53.000 And I was just like...

01:49:55.000 When he showed up, we had this plan.

01:49:57.000 We were going to have his name like football painted on our bodies.

01:50:02.000 And we were going to be standing out because where his parking spot was...

01:50:05.000 What's his name?

01:50:06.000 His name was Dustin.

01:50:08.000 Did you have enough people?

01:50:09.000 Yeah, we were going to have a welcoming party.

01:50:11.000 So we were going to have Dustin and we were on the second floor of this building, right out at Islington and Dixon. 0.99

01:50:18.000 Shout out to fucking Rexdale. 0.97

01:50:19.000 And we were all going to line up. 0.99

01:50:23.000 And then he called us about the cops and all this stuff and we were all gonna have Dustin and he showed up and it was the craziest.

01:50:32.000 We did all the cocaine in about two weeks and we didn't sell any of it and none of us left and And I'm like, if you're in culinary school, everyone's pretty crispy.

01:50:48.000 At that point, you're just like, and it's pure cocaine, so you can sleep on it.

01:50:52.000 What is it like to do pure cocaine?

01:50:55.000 So we broke off this little piece, and I can still remember it.

01:50:58.000 I remember everybody that was there, I won't say their names, because one of them works at the airport. 0.94

01:51:05.000 I remember man and he broke off a piece and we took it and it was like a rock and he just took it and like hit it on the table and just dust fell and we made like fresh lines out of that and we just did it and we were like it was like it was a movie it was like euphoric it was like this is a drug see this is a drug the shit we're doing with like with like laxatives and fucking stepped on ten times that's not a thing this fresh cocaine that's nice that's what It should be, 0.85

01:51:34.000 and it should be legal. 0.86

01:51:34.000 That's what it should be. 0.86

01:51:35.000 Yes!

01:51:36.000 Pure cocaine.

01:51:37.000 Legal.

01:51:38.000 It should be legal.

01:51:38.000 All drugs should be legal.

01:51:39.000 Who gives a fuck? 0.91

01:51:40.000 All drugs should be legal. 0.98

01:51:41.000 All drugs.

01:51:42.000 Drugs are perfect. 1.00

01:51:43.000 Humans are the fuck-ups. 1.00

01:51:44.000 But the problem is, when you're getting something, they call it cocaine, and it's really a bunch of other shit like fentanyl. 1.00

01:51:49.000 It's baby laxatives. 1.00

01:51:49.000 Yeah, fentanyl, fucking baby... 1.00

01:51:51.000 Most of the time, I'm just shitting. 1.00

01:51:52.000 If I look at a dollar bill, I'll take a shit. 1.00

01:51:54.000 You know? 1.00

01:51:55.000 It's just like...

01:51:56.000 Man, I can smell it.

01:51:57.000 Why do they put laxatives in it?

01:51:59.000 I don't know, because I think you can snort it and it burns your nose kind of like...

01:52:02.000 I don't know.

01:52:02.000 It doesn't really burn your nose either.

01:52:05.000 I don't fucking know, man. 0.98

01:52:07.000 Yeah, there we go! 0.98

01:52:09.000 That's the big...

01:52:09.000 Yeah, it's just white.

01:52:11.000 It's the same consistency.

01:52:12.000 They put vitamins sometimes too, right? 1.00

01:52:16.000 Yeah, they're assholes. 1.00

01:52:17.000 They're assholes. 1.00

01:52:18.000 They do anything. 1.00

01:52:18.000 You can't even test it, right? 1.00

01:52:20.000 No, because even if you want to cook it and take it and fucking freebase it or anything, it just turns to glue most of the time.

01:52:28.000 Or even, you can get chunky, shitty Coke, and sometimes I would take a plate and put it in the microwave and heat it up, and then you pour the Coke on there and it'll dry it out, kind of, and make it more crispier and nicer to sniff. 0.52

01:52:39.000 This is too much information.

01:52:40.000 A lot of people watch this, eh?

01:52:42.000 Yeah, there's a few.

01:52:43.000 Gah! 1.00

01:52:45.000 Stop! 1.00

01:52:46.000 My mom's gonna be like, what the fuck are you talking about? 1.00

01:52:49.000 She's like, Maddie! 1.00

01:52:51.000 She would be like, you're so sweet.

01:52:53.000 You figured it out anyways.

01:52:54.000 Joni's so sweet.

01:52:55.000 Shout out to Joni.

01:52:56.000 Love Joni.

01:52:57.000 She's the best. 0.99

01:52:58.000 Fucking ace. 1.00

01:53:00.000 A pound of cocaine would land you in jail for a long time. 1.00

01:53:03.000 I feel so, yeah.

01:53:05.000 Yeah, because they would assume that you're selling it.

01:53:07.000 They would.

01:53:07.000 Not just doing it like a bunch of college students.

01:53:09.000 Not just for personal use.

01:53:11.000 It's personal use.

01:53:12.000 But it's good that you didn't step on it.

01:53:14.000 That's good.

01:53:14.000 You maintain your integrity.

01:53:16.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing.

01:53:17.000 Well, it's just like, because I wasn't a drug dealer, but it was like, I lived with a couple drug dealers, and then it was so good that we were just like, this is crazy.

01:53:25.000 We have the supply, and we're like, this will last us like a year.

01:53:28.000 You know?

01:53:29.000 No, it lasted us literally two weeks. 0.98

01:53:30.000 And then I get a phone call from my fucking, my dean, my head chef, and he calls me, and I was just like, who's this number? 0.97

01:53:39.000 And I answer him, and he was like, Matty? 0.99

01:53:42.000 And I was like, yeah?

01:53:44.000 And he's like, this is Chef.

01:53:45.000 And I was like, Chef?

01:53:46.000 Chef who?

01:53:47.000 Like, what's Chef?

01:53:47.000 And he's like, whatever his name was.

01:53:50.000 And I was just like, oh my god, Chef.

01:53:53.000 Hey, how are you doing?

01:53:54.000 And he's like, what's going on? 0.98

01:53:55.000 You haven't been to school in fucking two weeks. 0.98

01:53:58.000 And I was like... 0.99

01:53:59.000 We got a pound of coke.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:01.000 And I kind of was just like, you know, I'm mentally fragile right now, chef. 0.88

01:54:04.000 And I don't really have anything, no fucking real breakfast in me anymore. 0.71

01:54:08.000 And I, you know, is there any way that I can just come back? 0.92

01:54:11.000 I've had a rough little couple weeks.

01:54:13.000 And, you know, like, how can I get back in the program?

01:54:17.000 And he's like, you know, we really like you.

01:54:19.000 You've done really well up until this point.

01:54:21.000 He's like, come in and talk to us.

01:54:23.000 I'm going to have all our chefs here and we're going to assess.

01:54:25.000 Okay.

01:54:25.000 And you came in like Ray Liotta and Goodfellas looking for the helicopter.

01:54:29.000 Just like so, yeah. 0.97

01:54:31.000 Imagine me like just fucking thinking I'm looking like real chill and professional. 0.94

01:54:36.000 Just showed up having showered in like two weeks. 0.98

01:54:39.000 Bloodshot eyes, pale skin. 0.98

01:54:40.000 What's going on?

01:54:41.000 Yeah, just like having been outside.

01:54:43.000 A sheen of sweat over your whole body.

01:54:45.000 Oh, mama mia.

01:54:46.000 Man, I just smell like chemicals.

01:54:48.000 I smell like bleach. 0.99

01:54:49.000 I smell like cum and bleach. 1.00

01:54:51.000 Fucking so gross. 1.00

01:54:52.000 And I walk in, all my chefs are there. 0.99

01:54:55.000 And I was just like, and they're like, so what?

01:54:59.000 Explain to us.

01:55:01.000 And I was like, okay, here's the deal.

01:55:05.000 We bought a pound of cocaine.

01:55:07.000 They're like, excuse me?

01:55:09.000 I was like, me and my roommates bought a pound of cocaine and we've done it all.

01:55:13.000 It's all gone.

01:55:15.000 And they're like, excuse me?

01:55:18.000 And I was just like, chefs.

01:55:21.000 I need to come back to work.

01:55:22.000 My parents, you know, I need to finish this program.

01:55:27.000 And they're like, you are telling us that you, and how many people?

01:55:31.000 And I was like, there's like a core group of four.

01:55:34.000 And then, you know, sporadically up to maybe seven.

01:55:37.000 We kept it tight.

01:55:38.000 And they were like, Maddie?

01:55:42.000 And I was like, chefs?

01:55:43.000 And they're like, you're going to be a good chef one day.

01:55:46.000 I was just like, what?

01:55:48.000 And they're like, don't lie to us.

01:55:51.000 And I was just like, I'm not lying!

01:55:53.000 And I was just like...

01:55:54.000 They thought you were lying?

01:55:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:56.000 They were just like, what are you talking about? 1.00

01:55:57.000 And I was just like, well, okay, well, fuck it. 1.00

01:55:59.000 You know, fuck it. 1.00

01:56:01.000 And I was just like, well, I want to be a chef. 1.00

01:56:04.000 You know, I got the chef whites here, I'm fucking, you know, how good, like, you could see me. 0.99

01:56:08.000 I fucked up for two weeks. 0.99

01:56:09.000 Like, let me back in, I'll rock. 0.99

01:56:11.000 You know?

01:56:12.000 No questions asked.

01:56:13.000 I'm, like, because you, they lock the door at quarter to eight a.m. 0.99

01:56:16.000 So you have to be there at seven, you have to be a half hour early to, like, your fucking cooking class, or they lock you out. 0.96

01:56:22.000 And so, they're like, okay, you miss one day, you're out. 0.98

01:56:27.000 And then, literally, I was like, no problem.

01:56:29.000 And they're like, we're gonna let you back in.

01:56:30.000 This is unheard of.

01:56:32.000 And stop laughing.

01:56:33.000 Like, they were just, like, so sweet.

01:56:34.000 And I was just like, and I had a good relationship with them.

01:56:37.000 And I was like, it was like a very interesting cooking, you know, situation.

01:56:42.000 And I was just like, okay, like, I'm in.

01:56:45.000 I want to be a chef.

01:56:46.000 Like, because they were like, do you want to be a chef? 1.00

01:56:49.000 Because if you don't, like, fuck off. 1.00

01:56:51.000 Right. 1.00

01:56:51.000 And I was like, I want to be a chef. 1.00

01:56:53.000 I want to go work in French restaurants.

01:56:55.000 I want to, you know, I want to work on my skills.

01:56:59.000 There's nothing else for me.

01:57:00.000 This makes me feel happy.

01:57:01.000 I am lucky that I have found something that I can do.

01:57:05.000 I wasn't good at lacrosse.

01:57:07.000 I wasn't good at skateboarding. 0.99

01:57:08.000 I wasn't good at fucking anything. 0.98

01:57:10.000 Now, I wasn't good at anything in high school. 0.99

01:57:12.000 And now in college, I get fucking, like, 90s because I can fucking de-bone a quail and make a Bordelais. 0.98

01:57:19.000 I can make hollandaise. 0.99

01:57:20.000 I can make a stock. 0.94

01:57:21.000 I'm not an idiot. 0.98

01:57:22.000 I can hold the line. 0.92

01:57:24.000 I don't fall during service.

01:57:26.000 And you enjoy it.

01:57:27.000 And I love it.

01:57:28.000 Cooking is...

01:57:29.000 I love...

01:57:30.000 I love it.

01:57:31.000 You can tell.

01:57:32.000 That's one of the things about your videos.

01:57:34.000 It's very infectious.

01:57:35.000 I love...

01:57:36.000 When people love what they're doing, it's very infectious.

01:57:40.000 I'm not an actor.

01:57:43.000 I don't know how to be anything but this. 0.98

01:57:46.000 I'm just a fucking, I'm this. 0.97

01:57:48.000 And I was just like, I want to be a chef. 0.99

01:57:51.000 I'm going to be a chef.

01:57:52.000 And they're like, okay.

01:57:53.000 And it was amazing because literally I get back.

01:57:56.000 You know, I'm like, I go back to school, you know, take a shower, brush my teeth, you know, get ready and shave my face.

01:58:04.000 And then like two weeks later, it's almost like the end of the year too, and I fucking, I just drop out to go on tour with like a metal band, with my buddy's like metal band.

01:58:14.000 And I like drop out and then like my punk, because I was like, you know, when you're, I feel like I got caught.

01:58:20.000 By doing drugs, but then me being like punk I was like all my friends like death metal band is touring Canada They're like do you want to come with us?

01:58:26.000 I was like yeah, okay.

01:58:27.000 That makes sense.

01:58:28.000 I don't need a piece of paper I don't need my diploma to say that I'm a chef I learned everything what I'm gonna learn in the last two weeks of this course and so I ended up actually dropping out and And I felt like it's one of those things where I was just like, you know, I never talked to those chefs again I never saw it like who sees their college student or you know who sees their teachers from college really and then years down the line It's so incredible.

01:58:51.000 My chef, Chef Anthony, I'll say his first name, but Chef Anthony fucking hit me up on Facebook. 0.99

01:58:58.000 He's this big Irish fucking red motherfucker. 1.00

01:59:01.000 Big Michelin psychopath. 1.00

01:59:03.000 And he was just like, he like, whatever, he like Facebooked me or messaged me on Facebook when I still had like Facebook.

01:59:12.000 And he was just like, I'm really proud of you.

01:59:15.000 He's like, you have multiple restaurants. 0.99

01:59:18.000 You fucking pulled it out. 0.99

01:59:19.000 This is incredible. 1.00

01:59:20.000 He's like, I remember who you were.

01:59:22.000 And he's like, to see your rise in this city is really incredible.

01:59:26.000 He's like, there's no other chefs from your graduating class.

01:59:29.000 Not that you graduated, but he's like, you're the one.

01:59:33.000 He's like, just think of that. 0.95

01:59:34.000 Like, all of the chefs in that class, in that fucking whatever, that was, you know, whatever you call it, a class or whatever, there's like, you are the one. 0.99

01:59:44.000 And I was just like, that's so crazy. 0.98

01:59:45.000 He's like, there's no other chefs.

01:59:47.000 He's like, you are the only chef from that program.

01:59:50.000 So no one else became a chef?

01:59:52.000 No, they all just go into the thing and they get burnt or they get pushed out.

01:59:56.000 It's a tough thing.

01:59:57.000 It's tough.

01:59:58.000 It's like, I'm a tough white belt.

01:59:59.000 How long does it take to become a black belt?

02:00:03.000 I'm more of a business person now.

02:00:06.000 Technically, I'm not the best chef.

02:00:08.000 But I'm definitely like, I have that well-roundedness.

02:00:11.000 I understand most chefs, most great chefs are just great chefs.

02:00:15.000 They're not great operators.

02:00:16.000 Or they're not great business people.

02:00:18.000 And a lot of chefs also aren't really, like, they don't own the business, right?

02:00:23.000 It's kind of ironic because what made you big was not just your cooking skills, but it was this big personality.

02:00:30.000 And this big personality which was originally connected to drugs and partying.

02:00:36.000 And then, you know, that kind of like got you in the door.

02:00:40.000 Yeah.

02:00:40.000 Well, there wasn't many doors I couldn't walk through, you know?

02:00:44.000 There wasn't many doors that I, like, you know, I either kicked them down or I was welcomed with, you know, open arms.

02:00:50.000 But it's still like...

02:00:52.000 It is interesting that no one else from the class made it.

02:00:55.000 Yeah, and I don't even mean that to—because I'm a firm believer of going to school, and I think going to school taught me that I liked school.

02:01:04.000 I hated high school.

02:01:05.000 I didn't like math or science or gym or whatever, English or— You didn't like doing things you didn't like to do. 1.00

02:01:11.000 No, I was a very fuck you guy. 0.99

02:01:13.000 That's the problem with a lot of kids is that they don't find a thing. 0.99

02:01:15.000 They think that they're never going to be good at anything because they're not good at school.

02:01:18.000 Because they're not interested in school.

02:01:20.000 And then they find something they're interested in and they go, oh, that's not what it is.

02:01:24.000 I'm not a loser.

02:01:25.000 I just don't like what I'm doing.

02:01:27.000 And most people don't use the tools that you learned in high school.

02:01:31.000 Like, high school's mostly just a social experiment, you know, for, like, building, keeping kids away from their parents and, like, doing stuff and building social fucking, you know, awareness, kind of.

02:01:40.000 But I think it's just, like, the amount of things that...

02:01:44.000 I don't know.

02:01:45.000 I think the thing that clicked with going to cooking school was I realized what self-esteem was.

02:01:53.000 I never felt self-esteem like that before.

02:01:56.000 Where all of a sudden, if I showed up with my clean chef whites, and I did what the chef said, and I did my mise en place, and I cooked a dish, and I did everything to fucking the spec of what was put to me...

02:02:09.000 I get a good grade.

02:02:11.000 I was a 50 percentile student.

02:02:12.000 I was always just, what do I have to do to pass? 0.99

02:02:14.000 I was very much like, and I was funny enough in high school that I could work with my teachers on what do I have to do to just get through this shit? 0.98

02:02:21.000 I'm not going to be a mathematician. 0.98

02:02:22.000 I'm not going to be a teacher. 1.00

02:02:23.000 I'm not going to be fucking anything that's going on in this fucking room. 1.00

02:02:27.000 You know? 1.00

02:02:28.000 And I think a lot of teachers even were like, well, you know, I was one of those kids that they're like, okay, good luck with whatever the fuck you're going to be doing, too. 0.98

02:02:34.000 You know? 1.00

02:02:35.000 Because I was a verbal, you know, I was like an asshole. 1.00

02:02:37.000 I wasn't afraid to say fuck you to somebody or be like, yeah, send me to the office. 1.00

02:02:41.000 Okay, cool. 1.00

02:02:42.000 Thank you.

02:02:42.000 Or like fight with my vice principals and like all that kind of stuff.

02:02:45.000 Like I was like in the office every day, you know?

02:02:47.000 Yeah, like a fun person.

02:02:48.000 Yeah.

02:02:50.000 I remember when I switched, because I got kicked out of my first high school for fighting, and my older brother was a fighter too, so they're like, we're not dealing with another Matheson. 0.99

02:02:57.000 You've got to get the fuck out of here. 0.97

02:02:59.000 So then I went to a Catholic high school, and I remember the first week, I walked, during morning prayer, I was just like... 0.99

02:03:08.000 And just walked out of the room because I saw my homie walking down the hallway.

02:03:11.000 And I was like, yo, what's up?

02:03:12.000 And I just left during prayer.

02:03:14.000 And the teacher almost chokeslammed me.

02:03:17.000 And I was just like, what's happening?

02:03:18.000 And they're like, it's morning prayer. 0.98

02:03:20.000 And I was just like, no, I saw my butt. 0.99

02:03:22.000 And Catholic school was just another whole thing because I was brought up Mormon. 0.99

02:03:29.000 Really?

02:03:29.000 So I was brought Mormon.

02:03:31.000 Your family's Mormon?

02:03:31.000 Well, my family's Mormon, but we're all excommunicated.

02:03:34.000 What happened?

02:03:34.000 My dad got us all taken out of the thing.

02:03:36.000 So it was just like, we were like deep.

02:03:38.000 We were deep, and then when we moved provinces, the church wasn't good here.

02:03:44.000 In Ontario.

02:03:45.000 So in Nova Scotia, big, big fellowship, Mormon world, you know? 0.99

02:03:51.000 Then my dad was like a high deacon or whatever the fuck it was. 0.99

02:03:54.000 We always sat next to the Bishop's family, front row shit, because it's all like the families, whoever's up on the stage or whatever, the families sit in the front rows and shit. 0.99

02:04:03.000 And so then when we moved to Ontario... 0.99

02:04:06.000 I fucking, you know, like when we were about 12 or 13, right around like that time when we started all of a sudden doing like drugs and drinking is when we stopped going to the church. 0.89

02:04:19.000 Because that's maybe a part of it too, right? 0.99

02:04:21.000 Where like, we were like, I never had a Coca-Cola.

02:04:23.000 I never saw a PG rated movie.

02:04:26.000 We only watched G rated.

02:04:27.000 Really?

02:04:28.000 Yeah.

02:04:28.000 I never saw The Simpsons until I was, you know, things like that.

02:04:32.000 So once you got excommunicated from the church, they just...

02:04:35.000 Well, we took ourselves...

02:04:36.000 I don't know if excommunicated is the right word.

02:04:38.000 Left the church. 0.99

02:04:39.000 When we left the church, but because they have so much information on you and your family tree stuff, it takes a long time to actually get your shit out of there. 0.99

02:04:49.000 What do you mean? 0.90

02:04:51.000 I think they just have a lot of information on you and your families, and they do a lot of ancestral stuff, right?

02:04:57.000 So I think they do a lot of...

02:04:59.000 Even I would get $2 a week for my allowance, and I would have to give 10% to the church.

02:05:06.000 So we would all, being my brothers, we would have to take our nickels or whatever, our dimes, and we'd have to give our 10% to the church.

02:05:14.000 Really?

02:05:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:05:16.000 So that was training.

02:05:17.000 Like, just think, like, that training of, like, giving the church the money from day one.

02:05:20.000 Ugh. 1.00

02:05:21.000 And all that kind of shit. 1.00

02:05:22.000 So it was just like... 0.98

02:05:22.000 And then, you know, my parents are like... 0.98

02:05:24.000 They were young.

02:05:25.000 And it's crazy.

02:05:26.000 They were, like, the young couple that got knocked on.

02:05:29.000 And my dad was like, come on in.

02:05:30.000 Like, drink a beer?

02:05:32.000 Oh, God.

02:05:32.000 And all of a sudden, my dad was just like...

02:05:34.000 It was one of those things where I'm like, why?

02:05:38.000 When I found that out later on, I was like, you literally just like somebody knocked on the...

02:05:42.000 You let a missionary in here? 0.93

02:05:44.000 You know, where it's like so funny.

02:05:46.000 How old were you when you were asking him that question?

02:05:49.000 Like later, like in my 20s.

02:05:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:05:51.000 Like when I had like some balls to like, you know, dads are so scary. 0.98

02:05:54.000 So I was just like, you know. 0.97

02:05:55.000 Why?

02:05:56.000 Huh?

02:05:56.000 Yeah, just why.

02:05:57.000 You're asking him why.

02:05:58.000 Yeah, just like some, like where I was just like, you know, like he would come visit me in college.

02:06:01.000 We'd go have like lunch, you know.

02:06:03.000 My dad would drive up to the city and, you know, having those father-son kind of conversations.

02:06:07.000 Like, hey, like this was kind of crazy back then.

02:06:09.000 Or like, why was this?

02:06:09.000 Or like, you know, like why, why, you know, why were we never allowed to like sleep over at other kids' houses?

02:06:15.000 Or like.

02:06:15.000 You know, like, little small things that I don't think are, you know, crazy.

02:06:19.000 But I think it's definitely, like, one of those things that, like, you know, never having, like, a Coca-Cola, and then all of a sudden I'm, like, doing acid.

02:06:28.000 You know?

02:06:29.000 I'm all gas.

02:06:30.000 You know?

02:06:30.000 I was like, oh, cool.

02:06:32.000 We're not Mormons anymore?

02:06:33.000 Let's do some blotter acid.

02:06:35.000 Sometimes that's what triggers it, right, is the repression.

02:06:38.000 There's so much repression, and then all of a sudden they take the reins off you.

02:06:42.000 Well, and the idea of heaven, just like, at a young age, I strongly felt like there was no heaven.

02:06:48.000 And I strongly felt, I didn't believe it from a young age, because I also, and there's three levels of heaven in the Mormon, or in the Book of Mormon, right? 0.82

02:06:57.000 There's like the celestial, the fucking whatever, and the whatever. 0.94

02:06:59.000 So I was just like, there's three levels of heaven. 0.99

02:07:02.000 There's like three levels of heaven.

02:07:03.000 There's tears.

02:07:04.000 There's tears, right?

02:07:05.000 So the thing that I was, I was a klepto.

02:07:08.000 As a kid.

02:07:09.000 I would walk into a little store and grab a little thing.

02:07:12.000 I remember I saw a jackknife once from this hardware store.

02:07:16.000 I would just take things.

02:07:18.000 A little klepto.

02:07:19.000 In my head, at a very young age, I was like, I'm never going to be eternal with my parents.

02:07:25.000 At a very young age.

02:07:26.000 My parents did the whole thing with the underwear and they're married forever.

02:07:31.000 Underwear is wild.

02:07:32.000 I think they had to give it back or they had to get rid of it. 0.97

02:07:34.000 I don't fucking know. 1.00

02:07:35.000 Let's FaceTime Steve and be like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:07:38.000 Did you have to give the underwear back, Dad? 1.00

02:07:39.000 I still don't understand.

02:07:40.000 They have information on you.

02:07:42.000 Does that make it hard to leave because they tell you, hey, we know things about you?

02:07:46.000 No, I don't think it's weird like that kind of stuff.

02:07:49.000 It's like you're so connected. 0.96

02:07:50.000 Just to get our shit out. 0.99

02:07:53.000 To be stricken of the books. 0.99

02:07:55.000 Right, so you don't have to pay them every week.

02:07:57.000 Well, you don't have to.

02:07:58.000 I think it's called Pence. 1.00

02:08:00.000 But I think it's like, once again, there's probably a lot of Mormons watching this that are being like, man, he doesn't know shit. 1.00

02:08:04.000 And I don't know shit, okay? 1.00

02:08:06.000 I don't know shit. 0.99

02:08:06.000 I just lived it. 0.99

02:08:07.000 But I just think it is...

02:08:09.000 I remember it was just one of those things where...

02:08:13.000 I remember my dad and my sister, it was crazy, because she had a child out of wedlock.

02:08:19.000 She's going to love that I say this.

02:08:21.000 But she had a child out of wedlock.

02:08:23.000 And so that was like a thing where I think it was like, I don't even know.

02:08:27.000 I think there was like a thing where she got like a piece of paper saying she had to go in front of like a tribunal.

02:08:31.000 Oh boy.

02:08:32.000 And like, you know, explain herself or she was getting, or maybe she was getting excommunicated.

02:08:36.000 I still forget.

02:08:37.000 It's kind of fuzzy. 0.98

02:08:38.000 But I think it was like one of those things where I remember when the missionary showed up and it was almost like they served her like papers or some shit. 0.98

02:08:45.000 And I remember my older brother almost like beat the shit out of these missionaries. 0.99

02:08:48.000 Was like, get the fuck out of, you know, one of those kind of things. 1.00

02:08:51.000 Like get off our porch, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:08:53.000 Serving you papers. 1.00

02:08:54.000 You violated...

02:08:55.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:08:56.000 Religion's fucked! 1.00

02:08:57.000 That's the thing. 1.00

02:08:58.000 I don't like a lot of... 0.97

02:09:00.000 Well, that is the wackiest religion. 0.98

02:09:01.000 It's the wackiest, right? 0.99

02:09:02.000 I know.

02:09:03.000 Of course I'm a part of it.

02:09:04.000 It's like, other than Scientology...

02:09:06.000 I was baptized. 0.97

02:09:07.000 It's the wackiest one. 0.73

02:09:08.000 It's the wackiest one, right? 0.95

02:09:09.000 Because they know the guy who made it up, and he was a con man.

02:09:12.000 We used to go to the hill where he found the Book of Mormon, and they used to redo the event, and we would visit the jail where he was murdered.

02:09:22.000 How old was he when they killed him?

02:09:25.000 In his 20s?

02:09:26.000 That's in that wild.

02:09:27.000 John Smith, right?

02:09:28.000 John Smith?

02:09:30.000 Joseph.

02:09:31.000 Joseph Smith.

02:09:32.000 He invented it when he was 14 years old.

02:09:34.000 Let's go.

02:09:35.000 That's incredible.

02:09:36.000 That's like now.

02:09:37.000 That's like a TikToker.

02:09:39.000 You know, everyone just follows TikTok. 1.00

02:09:40.000 Same shit. 1.00

02:09:41.000 Well, I just can't imagine a 14-year-old that's not full of shit. 1.00

02:09:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:09:46.000 You know, like a 14-year-old that tells you a story like that and everybody's like, wow.

02:09:49.000 He's like, let's go.

02:09:50.000 Really?

02:09:50.000 You met angels?

02:09:51.000 What were they like?

02:09:52.000 They were beautiful?

02:09:53.000 You have golden tablets?

02:09:55.000 I love a golden tablet.

02:09:57.000 With the last work of Jesus?

02:09:58.000 Ah, Jesus.

02:10:00.000 There was a guy that was a Mormon.

02:10:03.000 He was higher up in the church.

02:10:05.000 He was a wealthy Mormon guy.

02:10:07.000 And he decided he was going to do...

02:10:09.000 This is back before 23andMe, way back in the day.

02:10:13.000 He was going to sequence the DNA of Native Americans to prove they were the lost tribe of Israel. 0.59

02:10:18.000 Yes.

02:10:19.000 To prove that the Book of Mormon was correct. 0.98

02:10:21.000 Turns out, no.

02:10:22.000 No.

02:10:23.000 False.

02:10:24.000 Yeah.

02:10:24.000 Turns out they're from Siberia.

02:10:25.000 Oh.

02:10:27.000 Really?

02:10:28.000 Yeah.

02:10:28.000 Full circle.

02:10:29.000 When the world was all together.

02:10:32.000 Well, they always thought that, you know, scientists and archaeologists thought that people came down from the Bering Strait, the Bering landmass.

02:10:40.000 But there was also people that lived here as well.

02:10:43.000 See, there's a lot of confusion about that.

02:10:46.000 They're not really exactly sure.

02:10:48.000 They think for sure some people came here by boat, but they don't know when.

02:10:52.000 They don't know how long ago.

02:10:53.000 The Anglos. 0.99

02:10:54.000 No, not even the Anglos, man.

02:10:56.000 Before the Anglos. 1.00

02:10:56.000 Pacific Islanders were traveling thousands of years ago. 1.00

02:10:59.000 Right, right.

02:10:59.000 And they think maybe some of them made it here, and they think that for sure some people came across the Bering Landmass, and they think that some people might have come up from South America, like the Olmecs.

02:11:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:11.000 They don't know.

02:11:12.000 They don't know.

02:11:13.000 They don't know how long people have been here.

02:11:14.000 There's a lot of guessing.

02:11:15.000 There is.

02:11:16.000 I appreciate the guessing.

02:11:18.000 They can prove.

02:11:19.000 Like, there was a guy...

02:11:22.000 Was it Kennewick Man?

02:11:24.000 Kennewick Man.

02:11:25.000 Is that it?

02:11:26.000 There was a guy that they found.

02:11:28.000 They found a body that had a spear tip or an arrowhead in the bones, like fused into the bone.

02:11:36.000 And so they knew that this guy had been killed there, and they knew that he'd been killed by, I think it was a Clovis Point.

02:11:44.000 Wow.

02:11:44.000 But I think they carbon dated his body back to like 5,000 plus years ago.

02:11:50.000 And so they're like trying to figure out like, was this...

02:11:53.000 Oh, that was the thing about this.

02:11:54.000 Okay, this is where I heard about this.

02:11:56.000 This was on the Meat Eater podcast, Steve Rinell's podcast.

02:11:59.000 Right.

02:11:59.000 And they had thought that he was an Anglo-Saxon.

02:12:04.000 They thought that he was a white man based on his bone structure.

02:12:08.000 Right.

02:12:09.000 Which is nonsense.

02:12:10.000 Right, yeah.

02:12:10.000 It doesn't work like that.

02:12:11.000 Bones.

02:12:13.000 You know started to do some examinations on his DNA they found out.

02:12:16.000 No, he was in fact of Native American ancestry.

02:12:20.000 But they don't know, they really don't know like when people got here.

02:12:24.000 There's a lot of guessing.

02:12:25.000 You know until they find, that's what happens with paleontology.

02:12:30.000 Like they'll find an old bone and they'll go well here's a human bone now we push it back to 12,600 years.

02:12:37.000 Okay now we found a new one now we push it back to 14,000 years.

02:12:41.000 I love that.

02:12:41.000 Yeah.

02:12:42.000 It's wild shit. 1.00

02:12:43.000 It is wild shit. 1.00

02:12:44.000 Do you think they're going to know when they come? 1.00

02:12:45.000 What's going on with the aliens?

02:12:47.000 Let me, fill me in.

02:12:50.000 Okay?

02:12:51.000 I want to know, because I have a funny story about aliens.

02:12:54.000 Oh, I'd love to hear it.

02:12:56.000 Okay.

02:12:56.000 On my wedding day, my wedding day, it was incredible.

02:13:01.000 We found this, we had all those like lanterns.

02:13:07.000 And we had a bunch of people, and we lit them on fire, and we put up the orbs, right?

02:13:12.000 And they float.

02:13:13.000 You know, about two weeks after our wedding, there's this viral video in Canada of an alien invasion.

02:13:22.000 And it's this little group of people.

02:13:26.000 Maybe they're in trailers, maybe they're not.

02:13:29.000 Maybe they're on meth.

02:13:30.000 And they are freaking out of the invasion that's happening right now.

02:13:36.000 And there's video, and it's like, come on!

02:13:39.000 There's more!

02:13:41.000 There's more!

02:13:42.000 And it's literally like, you know, 20 miles down the road from where we were.

02:13:46.000 Right.

02:13:47.000 So it's your stuff.

02:13:48.000 Vice wrote an article about it.

02:13:50.000 Like, all this stuff was happening about this alien invasion and this video.

02:13:53.000 And I had to be like, I emailed the editor, and I was just like, hey, I honestly think that this is from my wedding.

02:14:01.000 And it was like this incredible thing where, and they took it down on their Facebook because it went viral.

02:14:08.000 It was like this huge thing where people were like, what is this?

02:14:10.000 Like, what are all these orbs?

02:14:12.000 Like, they're floating over and it was like this incredible thing where we were like, and forever, like, our family is just like, remember the aliens that came to your wedding?

02:14:22.000 It floated down there because you just put them up.

02:14:24.000 This is like lighting trash on fire and letting it go.

02:14:27.000 It's just like a candle inside of it?

02:14:29.000 Yeah, it's like one of those like little like tea light things.

02:14:31.000 And the heat from the candle makes them float.

02:14:32.000 And it's just like this orb.

02:14:34.000 But they float forever.

02:14:35.000 And we were on the water.

02:14:36.000 We were in like Port Dover.

02:14:38.000 And so it blew it down the bucket.

02:14:40.000 It just like the wind picked it up.

02:14:41.000 Now there's no danger of that causing a forest fire?

02:14:44.000 No.

02:14:45.000 No?

02:14:45.000 No.

02:14:47.000 Never.

02:14:47.000 But it's a candle that's floating to anywhere.

02:14:51.000 Yeah.

02:14:51.000 Like a bundle of pine needles.

02:14:53.000 No, there's no bundle of pine needles in Canada.

02:14:55.000 It's all wet.

02:14:56.000 We're moistered.

02:14:57.000 We're well moistered.

02:14:58.000 All the time?

02:14:59.000 Yeah, all the time.

02:15:00.000 But you have fires up there.

02:15:01.000 You do have fires up there.

02:15:02.000 Some places, like up north, kind of, but not really.

02:15:05.000 Nothing to really speak of.

02:15:06.000 It's not a problem. 0.99

02:15:08.000 Yeah, we can, you know, a bunch of white privileged losers setting firebombs up into the sky. 1.00

02:15:13.000 Yeah, no problem. 1.00

02:15:14.000 But the fucking, but aliens, I'm interested. 1.00

02:15:17.000 I'm genuinely, because I'm like, obviously, it's ignorant, right? 0.99

02:15:22.000 To think that there isn't stuff out there?

02:15:23.000 Am I crazy?

02:15:24.000 Isn't there something that's happening very soon?

02:15:26.000 Isn't the Pentagon releasing something?

02:15:27.000 Didn't they have some sort of a press release scheduled?

02:15:33.000 Now, there's something that's scheduled very soon that Jeremy Corbell was discussing because they just released...

02:15:41.000 I got a cough button now.

02:15:44.000 Watch.

02:15:45.000 It actually says cough!

02:15:47.000 Yes, it's real.

02:15:47.000 Which is great because I used to cough.

02:15:49.000 I used to clear my throat into the mic and people got super annoyed.

02:15:52.000 But there's been quite a few sightings that they've confirmed.

02:15:57.000 That the Pentagon's confirmed, the Navy's confirmed.

02:15:59.000 They're like, yeah.

02:16:00.000 This is real footage. 0.99

02:16:02.000 We don't know what the fuck it is. 0.97

02:16:03.000 We have no idea. 0.99

02:16:04.000 Did you see the pyramids?

02:16:06.000 There's these floating pyramids, floating things.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, I haven't seen it.

02:16:09.000 This was a recent one.

02:16:10.000 There's a cluster of them, but there's three of them that they got on video.

02:16:15.000 They're floating above this installation. 0.99

02:16:17.000 They have no idea what the fuck they are. 0.99

02:16:19.000 Incredible. 1.00

02:16:20.000 They don't know how they're operating.

02:16:21.000 They don't know what they are.

02:16:23.000 So you're thinking like...

02:16:25.000 If we can't handle COVID, we're going to do really good against the aliens?

02:16:29.000 Well, that's what we're built for.

02:16:30.000 We're built for extraterrestrial problems. 1.00

02:16:34.000 No, we're fucked, man. 1.00

02:16:35.000 There's no way we're going to handle it. 1.00

02:16:36.000 We're feeble, right?

02:16:37.000 Or we're fragile?

02:16:38.000 We're fragile.

02:16:39.000 We're bags of milk.

02:16:39.000 We're not just fragile physically.

02:16:41.000 More importantly, we're fragile in terms of our ability to overcome adversity.

02:16:45.000 Our ability to handle things and keep our composure.

02:16:49.000 A bad cold, which is essentially what coronavirus is.

02:16:52.000 It's a terrible cold.

02:16:53.000 Kills a lot of people, but yeah.

02:16:55.000 It killed people.

02:16:56.000 It really exposed people's health problems more than anything.

02:16:59.000 The average person that died from COVID had 2.6 comorbidities.

02:17:05.000 So that means more than two and a half other problems, whether it's heart disease, cancer, and then COVID, and then COVID killed them.

02:17:16.000 Right.

02:17:18.000 It's not that.

02:17:19.000 It's not that we have a hard time with that.

02:17:22.000 It's just that we fell apart in terms of the way we communicate with each other.

02:17:26.000 People went into a panic.

02:17:28.000 People started attacking people and becoming way more negative online.

02:17:34.000 And also, their identity and their time was way more wrapped up in having these Twitter battles.

02:17:40.000 People were Twitter battling with each other.

02:17:43.000 It's a lot.

02:17:45.000 Trying to establish some sense of community, getting your life in order, getting your health in order, and using this time.

02:17:51.000 Some people, like Action Bronson, use this time to lose 130 pounds and become a fitness fanatic.

02:17:56.000 Some people use this time, like you did, to build your businesses up. 0.99

02:18:00.000 Some people didn't do shit. 0.98

02:18:02.000 Some people just freaked out. 0.99

02:18:03.000 Hit the internet.

02:18:05.000 Paralyzed.

02:18:05.000 They got more and more fearful, and more and more paranoid, and more and more angry, and more and more aggressive.

02:18:13.000 It's just weird.

02:18:14.000 And I think if something like the aliens came, the only good thing that would come out of it is we'd realize how foolish a lot of the arguments, a lot of the anger that we have are. 0.84

02:18:25.000 Well, it goes away once the big dogs come down. 0.79

02:18:26.000 All of a sudden they roll up.

02:18:30.000 Is Will Smith here to help us?

02:18:32.000 I think Will needs his own help.

02:18:33.000 He needs help.

02:18:35.000 He's good at content.

02:18:36.000 I feel he makes a lot of content.

02:18:38.000 I bet he's making content right now.

02:18:40.000 But our real problem is that we don't know how to think, and we don't know how to talk, and we don't know how to communicate. 0.98

02:18:49.000 And so many people are just dumb and lazy, and they're hoping that someone else is going to clean up the mess. 0.98

02:18:57.000 They're hoping that someone else is going to come along. 0.99

02:19:00.000 And then there's the reality of just getting hundreds of millions of people fed, and heat, and air conditioning, and infrastructure.

02:19:07.000 Dude, if it snows, look what happens.

02:19:09.000 Yeah, well, here, yeah.

02:19:10.000 You know, like, it is one of those things where we're just not prepared for whatever, like, we're so used to being in our own, you know, world.

02:19:16.000 We have a narrow window that we can operate in, and anything that goes outside of that narrow window would fall apart.

02:19:22.000 Do you think, like, laser weaponry would help us?

02:19:24.000 Or do you think bullets would, like, nothing will help us?

02:19:27.000 This is going to be like us showing up in tanks and dealing with chimps. 0.83

02:19:33.000 What are chimps going to do?

02:19:34.000 We roll up in tanks. 1.00

02:19:35.000 They're not going to do shit. 1.00

02:19:36.000 They're not going to do a goddamn thing. 0.99

02:19:38.000 They just go like this. 0.99

02:19:39.000 That's going to be what it's like if they come here.

02:19:41.000 If they decide...

02:19:42.000 Do you think they like us?

02:19:43.000 Pentagon UFO Report.

02:19:44.000 They acknowledge the reality, whistleblower says.

02:19:46.000 They acknowledge the reality, whistleblower says.

02:19:48.000 Luis Elizondo on blockbuster documents on UFOs.

02:19:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:19:53.000 Show the video of the fucking... 0.99

02:19:56.000 What is it? 1.00

02:19:57.000 Is this the pyramids?

02:19:58.000 Yeah, these are these things that are flying in the sky.

02:20:01.000 Yeah, they're flying.

02:20:02.000 You see there's three of them?

02:20:04.000 They were flying and these guys filmed it.

02:20:07.000 What was it over...

02:20:08.000 It was over something.

02:20:10.000 It was some Navy footage.

02:20:11.000 But they're using night vision.

02:20:13.000 They're filming it through a cell phone.

02:20:15.000 They have no idea what these things are.

02:20:16.000 And they're just floating and flying around through...

02:20:21.000 You know, they're obviously controlled.

02:20:22.000 They have some sort of...

02:20:23.000 They're piloted.

02:20:24.000 Or, you know, a drone or something.

02:20:26.000 But even like things like this.

02:20:26.000 Like this is like...

02:20:28.000 That should be triggering to some extent of, like, what's going on.

02:20:31.000 Like, I'm sure they've been, like, preparing some kind of, like...

02:20:35.000 They don't know what to do.

02:20:36.000 They don't know what to do.

02:20:36.000 This is the reality of it.

02:20:37.000 If you talk to anybody that's actually in the government, they'll tell you.

02:20:40.000 Yeah.

02:20:41.000 They don't know what to do.

02:20:42.000 They're like, we're cooked.

02:20:42.000 Because these things are moving.

02:20:44.000 I interviewed this guy as the most compelling story.

02:20:47.000 His name is Commander David Fravor.

02:20:48.000 Right.

02:20:49.000 And he was in 2004, which was 80 years ago, right?

02:20:53.000 Right.

02:20:53.000 Is that my math?

02:20:54.000 No, 76. 2004, it was off the coast of San Diego.

02:20:57.000 That's four years ago.

02:20:59.000 It was off the coast of San Diego, and he encountered this thing.

02:21:05.000 They saw this thing.

02:21:06.000 It looked like there was a ship underwater.

02:21:08.000 And so as they closed in on this, they saw this thing that was about the size of this room, like 20 feet, 30 feet long, something like that.

02:21:15.000 And it was shaped like a tic-tac.

02:21:17.000 And it was...

02:21:19.000 Somehow intelligently controlled it faced them and it blocked their radar which is Technically an act of war right and then it moved off at such an insane rate of speed that they couldn't watch it and then it went to their There they had an established destination point that they were eventually going to go to that was 30 miles away This tic-tac thing flew to that spot so they took their information.

02:21:44.000 Yeah It was like, you're going here, I go there.

02:21:46.000 It went directly there, but it got there in a second, 30 miles away.

02:21:50.000 It went from 80,000 feet above sea level to one foot in less than a second.

02:21:56.000 They have no idea how fast because the radar blips like one second.

02:21:59.000 In that time, it went from 80,000 feet to one feet above sea level.

02:22:04.000 They don't know what it is.

02:22:05.000 There's so many different UFOs.

02:22:08.000 Yeah.

02:22:08.000 Well, I think this is a place where they go.

02:22:12.000 They're like, what's going on down here with these idiots? 1.00

02:22:14.000 I used to do a joke that I think Earth is the Tijuana of outer space. 1.00

02:22:18.000 I think they come here when they're fucked up and they want to see a show. 0.99

02:22:21.000 They're like, what are those crazy pink monkeys with bang sticks up to? 1.00

02:22:25.000 And they come down here and they watch us be stupid. 1.00

02:22:27.000 They love it. 1.00

02:22:28.000 They're like, wait, give them social media.

02:22:31.000 Give them social media.

02:22:32.000 I think they're probably aware that we're on the verge of destroying Earth.

02:22:37.000 We could, at any given moment, with the wrong set of decisions and the wrong set of circumstances, we could blow up the Earth.

02:22:44.000 Yeah.

02:22:44.000 We shouldn't blow up the Earth.

02:22:45.000 The Earth is great. 0.98

02:22:46.000 It's a pretty fucking awesome spot. 0.98

02:22:47.000 It's a great spot. 0.98

02:22:48.000 We gotta stop some things, you know?

02:22:50.000 We need a lot of people to do small little things.

02:22:52.000 There's also the wackiest...

02:22:54.000 The wackiest theory is that we are the product of accelerated evolution.

02:22:59.000 That's the wackiest theory.

02:23:00.000 They came down here, whether it's Australopithecus or some of the lower primates, and they intervened and did some genetic experiments and created us.

02:23:10.000 Right.

02:23:10.000 Now, one of the reasons why that's so interesting is because scientists recently just came out and admitted that they've made human-monkey hybrid embryos.

02:23:21.000 Yes.

02:23:21.000 So these are real things that they've done.

02:23:23.000 And they said they did it under the guise of harvesting organs, because we need organs, so they're going to make these human- Just organ donors.

02:23:30.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:23:31.000 It's like KFC making chickens with, like, five legs.

02:23:33.000 Yeah, but- If you're gonna have an organ that a grown adult can use, you gotta make a grown adult.

02:23:37.000 That means you gotta make a grown adult monkey-human hybrid so that you can take its liver out. 0.97

02:23:43.000 And you're like, what?

02:23:44.000 That seems like a lot for a liver.

02:23:46.000 I don't know how else to do it.

02:23:47.000 Doesn't it cost like $100,000 to break your arm in America?

02:23:50.000 How much is that liver? 0.98

02:23:52.000 How much is the super monkey?

02:23:53.000 It's quite expensive.

02:23:54.000 But maybe they can make it cheaper if they have a lot of hybrid monkey people. 1.00

02:23:58.000 But the thing is, what if this thing gets out?

02:24:00.000 What if it gets out like a lab leak?

02:24:02.000 What if it gets a gun?

02:24:04.000 And what if these monkey-human hybrids go straight Planet of the Apes on us? 1.00

02:24:08.000 The idea of us interfering with a lower animal sounds arrogant and crazy. 0.54

02:24:15.000 So when we think about someone doing that to us, like an animal, like some being from another planet coming down here and introducing its DNA into ours, into what we used to be, into lower primates and creating a person, sounds so arrogant and crazy.

02:24:30.000 But then you think of what we're actually doing with humans and monkeys.

02:24:34.000 We're doing that.

02:24:35.000 Clonage.

02:24:36.000 That is...

02:24:37.000 The oldest theory about the missing link with human beings.

02:24:41.000 It's the oldest theory.

02:24:41.000 They're just like somebody came down, put a needle in.

02:24:44.000 Yeah.

02:24:44.000 In fact, that was one of the big theories that this guy, Zachariah Sitchin, used to write about.

02:24:53.000 Zachariah Sitchin is a guy who wrote a bunch of books on the Sumerian text.

02:24:58.000 The Sumerian text is the oldest known cuneiform.

02:25:02.000 Some of the oldest known written language.

02:25:05.000 And it's really fascinating shit because they had the double helix of DNA. They drew that in their depictions for medicine. 0.90

02:25:15.000 You ever seen that thing when they have the two snakes that represents medicine?

02:25:22.000 Yeah, he believed that that was representing the double helix of DNA. And there's images of that in a lot of their ancient stuff.

02:25:29.000 There's images of these gigantic beings that are holding these weird little monkey people on their lap.

02:25:36.000 There's a lot of evidence.

02:25:37.000 Well, it's not evidence.

02:25:39.000 It's just drawings.

02:25:40.000 It could have been just someone making a comic book 6,000 years ago, but it could be they were trying to tell a story.

02:25:47.000 And they also had a detailed depiction of the solar system.

02:25:51.000 This is 6,000 years ago, when a lot of people thought the world was flat.

02:25:55.000 They had it, and they do today too, some people.

02:25:57.000 I enjoy watching people explain that stuff.

02:25:59.000 That's amazing.

02:26:00.000 But they had a detailed depiction of the solar system 6,000 years ago with the Sun and all the planets, including Pluto.

02:26:07.000 And we didn't know about Pluto until 1930, right?

02:26:09.000 Somewhere around then.

02:26:10.000 They knew Pluto.

02:26:12.000 They're like, Pluto's our guy.

02:26:13.000 They drew it.

02:26:14.000 They had a depiction of all the planets.

02:26:16.000 Jupiter, Mars, Saturn, Venus.

02:26:19.000 We can see it.

02:26:20.000 See if you find the- The original.

02:26:24.000 Depictions of...

02:26:25.000 So what they think, what this guy, Zacharias Hitchin, and his believers think is that they were trying to tell this story of how some beings came from another planet, manipulated human DNA, and look at that.

02:26:38.000 Ah, look at that.

02:26:40.000 That's pretty wild.

02:26:41.000 So this is from, there's the sun and there's all the planets, and that one planet all the way over to the right in between them, they think that is this planet that they all came from.

02:26:53.000 It's called Nibiru.

02:26:55.000 And their story, again, this is Zechariah Sitchin's story.

02:26:58.000 Right, right.

02:26:59.000 Is that Nibiru was on an elliptical orbit, and every 3,600 years, it would come near Earth. 0.55

02:27:06.000 And they would come around and hop off and see what the fuck we're up to, and then go back out.

02:27:11.000 I like it. 0.94

02:27:12.000 See if you can find the depiction of ancient Sumerians with monkey people. 0.99

02:27:18.000 Monkey-people hybrid.

02:27:20.000 Because there's these weird clay tablets that show this god-like creature with this little human-type person with a tail.

02:27:29.000 But the person has a tail.

02:27:34.000 Which one?

02:27:35.000 That's an animal.

02:27:36.000 That's a good question.

02:27:37.000 There's so many. 1.00

02:27:39.000 They had a lot of wild shit. 1.00

02:27:41.000 They got so many things. 1.00

02:27:42.000 You know, it's hard.

02:27:43.000 What is that?

02:27:44.000 That's a good one.

02:27:45.000 See, you need that.

02:27:46.000 That's something you can have. 0.87

02:27:47.000 I don't think that's from Sumer, but it's fucking cool, whatever it is.

02:27:51.000 Find out what that is and let's get that for the studio. 0.89

02:27:53.000 Look at that.

02:27:54.000 There's a better one.

02:27:55.000 Bro, look at that thing.

02:27:55.000 Where's that from?

02:27:57.000 Ancient Aliens. 1.00

02:27:57.000 Wow, that's fucking killer. 1.00

02:27:59.000 That is Anunnaki. 1.00

02:28:00.000 What is that one right there?

02:28:01.000 That's the one I need for the studio.

02:28:03.000 What is that?

02:28:07.000 I don't think it is.

02:28:08.000 I think it's a sculpture, an actual sculpture.

02:28:14.000 Here's a better idea.

02:28:15.000 Get a bookmark of that and take that image and make it a photo on metal and put it in the studio, right?

02:28:23.000 Come on, son.

02:28:24.000 Yeah, but the actual thing's probably 7,000 years old.

02:28:27.000 We'd have to steal it.

02:28:28.000 We have the technology.

02:28:30.000 We have the technology.

02:28:32.000 We'd have to hire Daniel Craig to sneak in through the ceiling.

02:28:34.000 Daniel Craig!

02:28:35.000 Oh my goodness.

02:28:36.000 I love Daniel Craig.

02:28:38.000 He's in good shape.

02:28:39.000 He's in very good shape.

02:28:40.000 He's the best James Bond of all time.

02:28:41.000 Agreed?

02:28:42.000 I believe so.

02:28:43.000 Come on.

02:28:43.000 There's no belief.

02:28:44.000 Well, I think he's the only one that seems...

02:28:47.000 Well, Connery?

02:28:48.000 No?

02:28:49.000 Connery's no good.

02:28:50.000 No.

02:28:50.000 I think he's the best one where he's the realest.

02:28:53.000 Connery was great for back then, but it's like when Elvis was doing karate.

02:28:55.000 It's like, okay.

02:28:58.000 I think Daniel Craig is the realist.

02:29:00.000 Who's the new one?

02:29:02.000 They don't know yet.

02:29:03.000 Someone said Daniel Ratcliffe.

02:29:04.000 Harry Potter is.

02:29:06.000 Oh, that would be horrible.

02:29:09.000 That's fake news.

02:29:10.000 Not that he's horrible, but that can't be.

02:29:13.000 After Daniel Craig. 0.99

02:29:14.000 Daniel Craig looks like a straight-up killer.

02:29:16.000 You believe that he was an assassin. 0.97

02:29:18.000 But that's the thing. 0.99

02:29:18.000 007 has to be able to kill. 0.99

02:29:20.000 Yes. 0.99

02:29:21.000 Especially in this modern age.

02:29:23.000 You need things to be believable.

02:29:25.000 I want to go into a casino and like a magic door, beautiful women. 1.00

02:29:28.000 Talk to me.

02:29:28.000 You know, like a guy with the tinfoil teeth and the hat weapon.

02:29:31.000 Yeah.

02:29:32.000 Bladed hat.

02:29:32.000 That's what's up.

02:29:34.000 Yeah.

02:29:34.000 Imagine being a secret agent.

02:29:36.000 Are you a secret agent?

02:29:37.000 No.

02:29:37.000 That seems like a lot of work, and it would be really annoying, and you'd hardly sleep.

02:29:41.000 There's no sleep.

02:29:42.000 Then you'd have to be on sleep meds, and those aren't really good for you.

02:29:45.000 Get a body pillow.

02:29:46.000 Travel with a body pillow just to sleep well.

02:29:48.000 How about those ones where your arm goes in a tunnel?

02:29:50.000 Oh, I need an arm tunnel.

02:29:53.000 No, I need one.

02:29:56.000 I sleep like that.

02:29:58.000 Cuddling with someone.

02:29:59.000 The idea is that it protects your shoulder.

02:30:02.000 Do you sleep like that?

02:30:04.000 How do you sleep?

02:30:05.000 I just sleep.

02:30:06.000 Do you sleep just on your back?

02:30:08.000 No, I lay on my side.

02:30:09.000 Your side sleeper?

02:30:10.000 I get sleep apnea if I sleep on my back.

02:30:13.000 I snore.

02:30:15.000 Have you had your nose broken?

02:30:17.000 Oh yeah.

02:30:18.000 But I've had it fixed.

02:30:19.000 You've had it fixed.

02:30:21.000 Works great, but not until I was 40. When I was younger, I broke it so many times, it was basically useless.

02:30:28.000 But then when I got it fixed, it was like the world changed for me. 0.98

02:30:31.000 I tell everybody, if you have a deviated septum, if your nose is fucked up, oh my god, get it fixed. 0.98

02:30:35.000 My nose is good. 1.00

02:30:37.000 All that coke.

02:30:38.000 Cleaned it out.

02:30:39.000 And I didn't burn through it somehow.

02:30:41.000 That's amazing.

02:30:42.000 Breath work is important, right?

02:30:44.000 Oh, yeah.

02:30:44.000 You know Brian McKenzie?

02:30:45.000 Do you know him?

02:30:46.000 No.

02:30:46.000 Breath?

02:30:47.000 Brian McKenzie?

02:30:48.000 He's a breath guy.

02:30:48.000 What do you got, Jamie?

02:30:50.000 Oh.

02:30:50.000 Jamie.

02:30:51.000 I thought you said something.

02:30:52.000 I was trying to find that monkey person thing.

02:30:54.000 I think it's a depiction of the monkey king from No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:30:59.000 I know that one, too.

02:31:01.000 It's, um...

02:31:02.000 Look for...

02:31:04.000 Oh, that's pretty...

02:31:08.000 Look at that with the moss? 1.00

02:31:09.000 That Monkey King is fucking dope as shit. 1.00

02:31:12.000 But it's not that. 1.00

02:31:13.000 That's a different thing.

02:31:14.000 The Monkey King's tight. 1.00

02:31:14.000 Fuck, that Monkey King is badass. 1.00

02:31:16.000 What's that one in the lower right-hand corner with the red? 1.00

02:31:19.000 The lower right?

02:31:20.000 Yeah.

02:31:21.000 Oh, wow.

02:31:22.000 There we go.

02:31:23.000 There we go.

02:31:23.000 That's a Monkey King mask.

02:31:24.000 That's pretty tight.

02:31:26.000 No, that's not.

02:31:27.000 It is Anunnaki.

02:31:30.000 Just Google.

02:31:31.000 Oh, okay.

02:31:36.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:41.000 No, no, no.

02:31:42.000 No.

02:31:43.000 That looks very modern to me.

02:31:45.000 If you can just Google clay tablet Anunnaki with monkey. 0.74

02:31:51.000 So this website took me...

02:31:53.000 Pinterest?

02:31:54.000 Does Pinterest search for a little bit?

02:31:55.000 Just Google clay tablet...

02:31:57.000 Let's look at how to retile your kitchen on Pinterest.

02:32:00.000 Sumerian tablet...

02:32:01.000 Right.

02:32:02.000 Sumerian tablet Anunnaki...

02:32:08.000 Oh, yeah?

02:32:09.000 Let's save it.

02:32:10.000 Oh, what is this site?

02:32:12.000 Ancient Astronauts.

02:32:13.000 Wow, let's go.

02:32:15.000 This Africa is woke.

02:32:17.000 Oh, okay.

02:32:24.000 Anunnaki. 0.64

02:32:25.000 Ancient Mesopotamia.

02:32:27.000 Mesopotamia?

02:32:27.000 Yeah.

02:32:28.000 Mesopotamia seems nice.

02:32:32.000 If you can go back in time anywhere, any place, and see what it was like to live back then, where would you go?

02:32:41.000 Joe?

02:32:43.000 That's a good question.

02:32:46.000 I would love...

02:32:47.000 I don't know. 0.99

02:32:48.000 I'm always so fixated on Braveheart and Highlander and Claymore shit. 0.97

02:32:56.000 I just want to be like... 0.99

02:32:58.000 I want to paint my face, wear a kilt, and like chuck a claymore at somebody.

02:33:02.000 You know?

02:33:02.000 And just be like, live in the mud.

02:33:04.000 Freedom!

02:33:05.000 Yeah, just run around.

02:33:07.000 And just like run around the highlands.

02:33:08.000 I think like that kind of stuff would be interesting.

02:33:10.000 And I'm like, I want to just like get my friends together and we're just like, we're going to fight the British. 1.00

02:33:15.000 We're going to free our country.

02:33:17.000 Maybe that kind of stuff.

02:33:18.000 Where it seems simpler.

02:33:19.000 That kind of war seems simple. 0.72

02:33:21.000 A battle is like every six months.

02:33:23.000 You've got to walk 1,000 miles.

02:33:26.000 And you just chill out and relax.

02:33:28.000 And then you're like, okay, there's 300 of us, 400 or 500 of us. 0.72

02:33:32.000 We're going to fight 1,000 of you.

02:33:34.000 You guys got more arrows, but we're going to run. 0.98

02:33:36.000 We can run fast.

02:33:39.000 You've got it planned out.

02:33:40.000 Yeah.

02:33:40.000 I've just got to go back to Braveheart.

02:33:42.000 I'm pretty much...

02:33:43.000 Braveheart days.

02:33:43.000 I'm just like Braveheart.

02:33:44.000 Yeah, Braveheart days.

02:33:45.000 I don't know.

02:33:46.000 I think that would be...

02:33:47.000 Like, why not?

02:33:47.000 Like, we have all the technology in the world.

02:33:50.000 Let's go back to, like, what was the world just before Facebook?

02:33:53.000 Yeah.

02:33:55.000 Where would you go?

02:33:56.000 Where would you?

02:33:58.000 I think I would go to one or two things.

02:34:00.000 Either I would go ancient Egypt and see what it was like when they were building the pyramids.

02:34:06.000 What was civilization like?

02:34:08.000 Because we lost so much of that.

02:34:10.000 And the Aztec stuff.

02:34:11.000 Yeah, well, the Mayans.

02:34:13.000 I would definitely go, and the Aztecs too.

02:34:15.000 I would check that out.

02:34:16.000 But, you know, people were there, and they have some pretty detailed depictions of those people back then, like when Cortes came and the Spaniards came.

02:34:25.000 I would go to...

02:34:27.000 I think if I had to choose one, it would be ancient Egypt.

02:34:30.000 But if I had to choose another one, I think I might want to be...

02:34:34.000 I might want to see what it was like when the settlers first encountered the Native Americans when they were making their way across North America.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:34:40.000 Like when they first got to Texas and they met the Comanche.

02:34:43.000 Right, right.

02:34:43.000 I would love to see what it was like back then.

02:34:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:34:47.000 These people were just riding around on horseback shooting buffalo and then all of a sudden these pale-faced motherfuckers show up. 1.00

02:34:53.000 Dude. 1.00

02:34:53.000 Like, what was that like? 1.00

02:34:54.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:34:54.000 What was the first encounters like between these settlers? 0.99

02:34:57.000 Did you like Hostiles?

02:34:59.000 That movie Hostiles?

02:35:00.000 What was that?

02:35:00.000 I didn't see it, I don't think.

02:35:01.000 No?

02:35:02.000 No, it wasn't that.

02:35:03.000 Recent?

02:35:04.000 Yeah, dude, it's about two adversaries, kind of like one chief is going to be brought back to his...

02:35:16.000 When was this?

02:35:16.000 What year is this?

02:35:18.000 2017! 1.00

02:35:19.000 No shit! 0.99

02:35:20.000 Christian Bale? 1.00

02:35:21.000 Oh yeah, dude.

02:35:21.000 This movie is incredible.

02:35:23.000 So, you know, Wes Studi here, he's like, you know, some iconic warrior.

02:35:30.000 And then versus, you know, Christian Bale's character.

02:35:35.000 He has cancer, so the chief has cancer.

02:35:38.000 And it's about being like, I'm going to die anyways.

02:35:41.000 I have no fight left.

02:35:44.000 I want to just be on my land when I die.

02:35:45.000 I want to die in my home.

02:35:47.000 And that woman's in it? 1.00

02:35:48.000 What's her name?

02:35:48.000 Rosamund Pike?

02:35:49.000 She's really good, too.

02:35:50.000 She's from Gone Girl.

02:35:52.000 She's great in everything.

02:35:53.000 Yeah, Gone Girl. 1.00

02:35:54.000 Yeah?

02:35:54.000 Yeah.

02:35:55.000 She was also in I Care A Lot.

02:35:58.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 Did you see I Care A Lot?

02:36:00.000 No. 1.00

02:36:00.000 Fucking crazy movie. 1.00

02:36:01.000 What's the one with the Ben Affleck movie, too? 1.00

02:36:04.000 She's the one who kills him?

02:36:05.000 Yeah, Gone Girl. 1.00

02:36:06.000 Okay.

02:36:07.000 She doesn't kill him, right?

02:36:09.000 No. 1.00

02:36:09.000 She fucks with him. 1.00

02:36:10.000 Kills a bunch of other people. 1.00

02:36:11.000 Yeah, she's good in that. 1.00

02:36:12.000 She's crazy as fuck. 1.00

02:36:13.000 She's a full-on psycho. 1.00

02:36:13.000 She's like the new Sharon Stone. 1.00

02:36:15.000 Yeah, but more intense.

02:36:17.000 More intense.

02:36:18.000 Yeah.

02:36:18.000 She's in I Care A Lot, and she plays a psycho in that movie, too.

02:36:21.000 She plays a great psycho. 1.00

02:36:23.000 This movie, she's crushed because her family gets murdered. 0.73

02:36:27.000 They get murdered by some Native Americans, and then that troupe find her when they're bringing back the chief. 0.82

02:36:37.000 They come across her, who's shook, holding her shot baby still.

02:36:42.000 It's so heavy, but that movie is just slow-rolling.

02:36:45.000 It's two old warriors. 0.98

02:36:48.000 Coming to terms and like fighting the war at the end, but they have to return, like one warrior has to return this chief to, you know, or a soldier, I shouldn't say, but like a soldier returning a chief to his land that they just had this great war, you know, the horrible fucking war, 0.82

02:37:05.000 but it's just like, you know, like, it's a great movie. 0.96

02:37:07.000 Hostiles.

02:37:08.000 Hostiles.

02:37:08.000 Because I know that you're really into all that.

02:37:11.000 Yeah, I'm into Native American stuff.

02:37:13.000 I'm just into ancient civilizations.

02:37:15.000 I'm into ancient Egypt, ancient Africa.

02:37:17.000 Those people would hate us, right?

02:37:19.000 Yeah, they wouldn't be. 1.00

02:37:20.000 Those ancient, like Egypt would be like, you fucking slobs. 1.00

02:37:23.000 You losers. 1.00

02:37:23.000 Like, what are you idiots doing? 1.00

02:37:25.000 You're shitting all over the place and ruining the earth. 1.00

02:37:28.000 They're not doing good. 0.99

02:37:29.000 Everywhere you go.

02:37:29.000 Eat vegetables.

02:37:30.000 Polluting.

02:37:31.000 Just make gold necklaces and have nice times.

02:37:33.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:37:34.000 I just would have loved to have seen what their culture was like.

02:37:38.000 Because we just guess about that.

02:37:40.000 You know, thousands and thousands of years ago, making these insane structures just still hold up today.

02:37:45.000 Yeah, just hundreds of thousands of people just building these pyramids.

02:37:48.000 Yeah, how?

02:37:49.000 Pulling the stones.

02:37:50.000 Stonehenge, where'd it come from?

02:37:51.000 Where'd they come from?

02:37:52.000 Stonehenge is crazy, but it's not as crazy.

02:37:54.000 No.

02:37:55.000 That's just a couple rocks.

02:37:57.000 The Great Pyramid of Giza has 2,300,000 stones.

02:38:00.000 Oh.

02:38:01.000 And they didn't come from there.

02:38:02.000 Some of them were from hundreds of miles away.

02:38:04.000 The ones inside the King's Chamber, they're huge.

02:38:06.000 Have you been to the pyramids?

02:38:07.000 No.

02:38:08.000 You've never been to the pyramids?

02:38:09.000 No, the closest I've been to is, I've seen the Mayan temples at Chichen Itza. 0.95

02:38:13.000 That was pretty fucking wild. 0.69

02:38:14.000 That's pretty wild. 0.99

02:38:16.000 Like, you just imagine what it was like just being around these structures when they were filled with people, these people running this...

02:38:25.000 Navigating that life back then, like in that space.

02:38:27.000 Yeah, they were living in this society where their buildings were aligned to constellations.

02:38:34.000 They were so tuned into the stars.

02:38:37.000 Well, that's all they had.

02:38:38.000 There was Earth and then the sky, right?

02:38:40.000 Well, the sky must have been magnificent back then, too.

02:38:42.000 You could see everything.

02:38:42.000 There was no light.

02:38:43.000 Yeah.

02:38:44.000 You know?

02:38:44.000 There was no light.

02:38:45.000 You could see everything.

02:38:46.000 The canvas was there.

02:38:47.000 Let me ask you something.

02:38:49.000 Okay.

02:38:50.000 The scariest place.

02:38:52.000 Where did you feel like in the world traveling around?

02:38:56.000 Where was the place where you were like the most scared?

02:39:00.000 For a person who can take care of himself, you know, where was a place where you were traveling?

02:39:05.000 Like, this is sketchy.

02:39:06.000 This is like a place where I'm like, you know, where was the place where you felt most scared?

02:39:10.000 Well, the scariest place is always the woods.

02:39:13.000 Yeah.

02:39:13.000 Because you're so vulnerable.

02:39:15.000 Like, you know, if you encounter a bear or a mountain lion or, you know, that's the scariest.

02:39:21.000 Yeah.

02:39:22.000 But it's also, in some ways, like the most humbling and peaceful and enchanting.

02:39:29.000 Mm-hmm. 0.98

02:39:29.000 There's something about the purity of nature where nature doesn't give a fuck what your plans are. 0.98

02:39:35.000 No. 0.96

02:39:35.000 Like when you're out there on a mountaintop and you're out looking out, part of what's amazing about it is the humbling of yourself that comes about. 0.96

02:39:45.000 You gain this intense humility because you're around this...

02:39:51.000 Inescapable beauty.

02:39:52.000 And also the vast spans of ground and the mountains.

02:39:58.000 And then you're looking out there and these elk are fighting to the death.

02:40:01.000 And the mountain lion's waiting to jack them.

02:40:03.000 And then a bear's waiting to scare the mountain lion off the catch.

02:40:06.000 It's too much.

02:40:07.000 It's scary.

02:40:08.000 You feel so vulnerable.

02:40:10.000 But it's also...

02:40:12.000 Ironically, the most beautiful and the most welcoming.

02:40:16.000 Have you hunted alone?

02:40:18.000 Have you done the thing where you're like, I'm going to go out there alone and do a weekend?

02:40:22.000 No, I've never done that.

02:40:23.000 Is that crazy town?

02:40:25.000 That's crazy town.

02:40:25.000 I have a bunch of friends who do it all the time.

02:40:27.000 My buddy Shane Dorian, he's a big wave surfer.

02:40:30.000 He loves going on those solo hunts. 0.99

02:40:32.000 He'll just go on, like, pack his shit, go in. 0.99

02:40:33.000 Yeah, he brings a satellite phone in case he breaks his leg. 1.00

02:40:36.000 Right.

02:40:36.000 And then he'll go out there, and that's something you really have to think about.

02:40:39.000 He's out there. 1.00

02:40:40.000 You break your leg in the woods, you're fucking dead. 1.00

02:40:41.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00

02:40:42.000 And if they can't find you by the time your phone runs out of battery, you're dead.

02:40:45.000 You're gone. 0.99

02:40:46.000 You're dead. 0.99

02:40:46.000 You're not getting out. 0.99

02:40:47.000 No, you're dead. 1.00

02:40:48.000 You're dead. 1.00

02:40:48.000 And something's going to eat you. 1.00

02:40:49.000 And now they're reintroducing wolves into places like Colorado and Montana.

02:40:54.000 Get them back in there.

02:40:55.000 Let's bring them back. 0.99

02:40:55.000 And so then you're dead even quicker. 0.99

02:40:57.000 Yeah, the wolves scare me. 0.99

02:40:58.000 The wolves will get you.

02:40:58.000 We've got lots of coyotes.

02:40:59.000 We have big coyotes where I am.

02:41:01.000 And they're like, it's not like LA coyotes.

02:41:03.000 These are like big like... 0.99

02:41:04.000 They're eating moose and shit. 1.00

02:41:06.000 They're eating some mooses and some deers. 0.99

02:41:09.000 Like the other day we found like a whole carcass, like a half-eaten carcass of like a whole deer in our front yard.

02:41:15.000 So we got, you know, whatever, a couple acres.

02:41:18.000 Yeah.

02:41:19.000 And we got about six acres of like forest on our property, attached to other people's forests and stuff like that.

02:41:27.000 And there's so many, it was incredible.

02:41:29.000 Like Mac was just like running around our front yard.

02:41:31.000 He started screaming, like, wow, wow, check this out!

02:41:34.000 He was so stoked.

02:41:35.000 He was like, check this out!

02:41:36.000 He's like, can I touch it?

02:41:37.000 I was like, whoa, what's going on?

02:41:39.000 And then all of a sudden, as I got closer, I was like, no, don't touch this yet.

02:41:42.000 I was just like, do not touch this. 0.99

02:41:43.000 And it was just like a fucking... 0.99

02:41:44.000 We didn't hear anything or anything. 0.99

02:41:47.000 It was just like...

02:41:48.000 It was incredible.

02:41:49.000 They still hadn't eaten one of the legs.

02:41:53.000 And it was so weird because it was still snowy out, too.

02:41:55.000 So this is about a month ago when there was still snow.

02:42:00.000 And it was crazy because I'm looking at the half-eaten deer, and I'm like, there's no blood anywhere.

02:42:07.000 And then I was just like, where was this taken down?

02:42:09.000 And then so now I was like, Mac, we've got to find the blood.

02:42:12.000 He's like, what's the blood?

02:42:14.000 I was like, well, when animals are eaten or when we cut ourselves or whatever, even when you get a paper cut, the blood that comes out?

02:42:21.000 He's like, yeah.

02:42:21.000 I was like, well, when this was eaten by the coyotes, there'd be a lot of blood somewhere.

02:42:27.000 So there's going to be a lot of blood on the snow.

02:42:29.000 So let's walk around the property.

02:42:31.000 And so we were like walking around and it was like my daughter, my wife, and my son, and we're just like cruising around.

02:42:38.000 And then Trish was the first.

02:42:39.000 She's like, it's over here!

02:42:40.000 And then there's just like all the fur, all the blood.

02:42:43.000 And Mac was so interested.

02:42:45.000 It's so crazy.

02:42:46.000 He's five and he's so obsessed with eyes and if people are alive or dead.

02:42:51.000 Like if he was to meet you, he's like, are you alive?

02:42:54.000 Yeah.

02:42:54.000 And you're just like, oh, I'm alive.

02:42:56.000 But he's just like, have you ever died? 1.00

02:42:58.000 And kids are so funny with the shit that they say. 1.00

02:43:02.000 And he'll just be like, let me see your eyes. 1.00

02:43:05.000 He's like, you got a lot of blood in your...

02:43:07.000 Because he's obsessed with these blood vessels.

02:43:09.000 He'll always be like, take a closer...

02:43:10.000 You can just keep zooming in on your phone.

02:43:12.000 He's like, I'll zoom in on his eyes.

02:43:14.000 And he's like, let me look, let me look.

02:43:16.000 And he's like, ooh.

02:43:17.000 And he just loves...

02:43:18.000 It's so weird what kids love and what they're interested in.

02:43:21.000 It's so interesting them learning things too, right?

02:43:23.000 Well, the thing, too, is we're bringing them up.

02:43:26.000 It's funny, because my wife is Italian-Irish, right?

02:43:30.000 And so her mother, very religious.

02:43:33.000 And none of our kids are baptized.

02:43:35.000 We're not bringing them up with any kind of religion whatsoever.

02:43:39.000 And it's an interesting thing because he'll watch TV shows and they'll mention things about God.

02:43:46.000 Or I'll say, like, oh my God, or whatever.

02:43:48.000 I'll say things like that.

02:43:49.000 And he's just like, what is all that?

02:43:51.000 And I was just like, well, some people believe in that there's a higher power and there's a soul and there's all these kind of things.

02:43:57.000 And I was just like...

02:43:59.000 You know, it's an interesting thing to talk to, like, young kids about that because they really soak it up, right?

02:44:04.000 And I'm just, like, learning, like, not to talk too much about stuff, some stuff, but, like, Trisha, she loves talking about everything with them.

02:44:12.000 It's so interesting to see her, like, really engage and, like, describe, like, what, like, murder is.

02:44:17.000 Or describe, like, you're watching something and he's like, what is that?

02:44:20.000 And, like, Trisha will be like, well, that's when, like, somebody, like, kills somebody and they didn't like them and then they killed them and it's not good to kill anybody, though.

02:44:28.000 And you're just like, what's happening?

02:44:30.000 What's crazy is he's only been alive for five years.

02:44:35.000 Just think about yourself five years ago.

02:44:37.000 You're basically the same guy.

02:44:39.000 There's not much difference between me five years ago and me today.

02:44:42.000 No.

02:44:43.000 But a five-year-old kid... 0.99

02:44:46.000 Five years ago, he didn't know jack shit. 1.00

02:44:48.000 And now he's asking you about eyes and are you dead? 0.99

02:44:51.000 You know, he's like putting it all together.

02:44:52.000 Yeah.

02:44:53.000 It's wild.

02:44:54.000 It is.

02:44:54.000 Like, I just love like the...

02:44:56.000 I don't know.

02:44:57.000 They're so funny kids.

02:44:58.000 Like, I'm just like, I really enjoy...

02:45:01.000 Just hanging out.

02:45:02.000 It's one of those things where I always knew that I wanted kids and wanted this stuff, but I was just like, I don't know how it will fit in with my whole thing, right?

02:45:11.000 It's such a different thing where you're your own individual, your relationship with your wife and your partner, and then your children, and how does that all work?

02:45:19.000 Louis C.K. gave me some real good advice once about that.

02:45:21.000 He said, just let it change you.

02:45:23.000 Yeah.

02:45:24.000 Wisdom in a sentence.

02:45:26.000 Just let it change you.

02:45:29.000 That's what happens, too.

02:45:31.000 It just changes you.

02:45:32.000 It's a wave.

02:45:32.000 But it's like you were talking about before, where you're trying to hold on to your identity of being a partier.

02:45:37.000 That was your identity.

02:45:38.000 There's a lot of people that have this idea of who they are, and then all of a sudden they have children, and then they change.

02:45:45.000 It changes you.

02:45:46.000 And it has to.

02:45:47.000 It makes you like so hard and so soft at the same time.

02:45:50.000 You know what's really sad?

02:45:51.000 When it doesn't change you.

02:45:52.000 Yeah.

02:45:53.000 Because I know guys where it doesn't change them.

02:45:54.000 And those guys are sad.

02:45:56.000 And they drift away from their family.

02:45:59.000 They get divorced.

02:46:00.000 They don't raise their kids.

02:46:01.000 And it's just like there's a disconnect for them that is just unimaginable.

02:46:07.000 Yeah, it's unimaginable.

02:46:08.000 I can't imagine not loving it.

02:46:10.000 Yeah.

02:46:11.000 Not loving the kids.

02:46:12.000 It is a crazy thing.

02:46:15.000 The craziest thing, too, now that we're just talking about kids, but it's just like one of the things that makes me crazy, or not crazy, but the growth of the love...

02:46:27.000 Yeah.

02:46:27.000 And the connection, because it's like one of the, I said, I mentioned that earlier where it's just like when, and we did very intense home births, beautiful, very lucky to have like, you know, no breaches or no nothing and they were very, you know, Trish did all the work.

02:46:41.000 What do you do if there is a breach if you're doing a home pregnancy?

02:46:44.000 Do you just get her to the hospital quick? 0.99

02:46:45.000 Yeah, we have one midwife, and we did a doula for the first one, and then we literally didn't have anybody.

02:46:51.000 It was just me and the midwife for Rizzo and Ozzy.

02:46:56.000 So yeah, if something goes down, then you just call the EMS. And then you have a thing set up.

02:47:01.000 When you're close to the hospital still?

02:47:03.000 No, well, at the farm, we're like 45 minutes.

02:47:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:47:08.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:47:08.000 What if the umbilical cord's wrapped? 1.00

02:47:11.000 Fucking... 1.00

02:47:12.000 Unwrap it? 1.00

02:47:13.000 Unwrap it.

02:47:14.000 Get in there with your fists? 1.00

02:47:14.000 I'll fucking do anything. 1.00

02:47:17.000 I'll take it out. 0.98

02:47:18.000 But the... 1.00

02:47:20.000 Yeah, fucking kids. 1.00

02:47:21.000 But the thing that I was trying to say is that the magic of television and our brains are like, the second it comes out, you have this eternal love. 1.00

02:47:31.000 Where you do have that eternal love, but the love really grows.

02:47:36.000 Instantly, I felt very connected.

02:47:38.000 I was like, oh my god, this is a baby.

02:47:40.000 And it's like one of those things where it was so weird, like you have to teach yourself to, because I grew up, I didn't really have pets.

02:47:45.000 So I'm like, I had to, I was like, oh my god, I have to like, what's the name of the kid?

02:47:49.000 Like for the first few days, I was like, what's the name of the kid?

02:47:52.000 MacArthur?

02:47:52.000 MacArthur!

02:47:53.000 I just had to get into this thing of naming a child. 0.99

02:47:59.000 It's such an interesting ongoing thing where you're like, now Mac is such a fucking powerhouse. 0.97

02:48:06.000 It feels surreal too, right? 0.98

02:48:08.000 Oh my god.

02:48:09.000 It doesn't feel real.

02:48:10.000 Even to this day, I'll talk to my 12-year-old.

02:48:13.000 We'll have a little conversation. 0.99

02:48:14.000 I'm like, are you fucking real? 0.99

02:48:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:48:16.000 You really come out of some of my DNA? Dude.

02:48:19.000 How's that possible?

02:48:21.000 Dude, it's possible.

02:48:22.000 And here you're all talking and laughing.

02:48:23.000 And then they exhibit personality traits that are real similar to yours, and you're like, wow, this is nuts.

02:48:28.000 My son, my parents are like, it is eerie how Mac is like you.

02:48:33.000 He's a fireball.

02:48:35.000 And he's so sweet, and he's so, like, it's just like one of those things- Keep him away from Coke.

02:48:39.000 Yeah, I know.

02:48:40.000 Well, everyone's on their own path, too.

02:48:43.000 I've put so many intentions into just being like, I just hope he doesn't have that addict blood.

02:48:50.000 And I'm like, he's got all my blood.

02:48:51.000 He's me. 1.00

02:48:52.000 This guy's a psychopath. 0.92

02:48:53.000 I was just like, hopefully, we just give him the tools to be able to make the right decisions, you know? 0.93

02:49:00.000 Yeah.

02:49:01.000 That's the thing.

02:49:01.000 I'm not caught up in...

02:49:03.000 I want my kid to be this, and I want my kid to be that.

02:49:06.000 I just want my kid to be a good person that can make good decisions.

02:49:10.000 I think that's the best you can do.

02:49:11.000 You just want your kids to be happy human beings.

02:49:15.000 The saddest thing is when someone has expectations for their children that aren't their children's hopes and dreams, and they force them on their kids.

02:49:23.000 It ruins both.

02:49:24.000 It poisons the will on both ends.

02:49:26.000 And it fucks up the relationship that you have.

02:49:27.000 I've seen it with friends where their dads are upset at them because they're not living the life that the dad wanted for them. 1.00

02:49:34.000 Okay, motherfucker. 1.00

02:49:35.000 You know, like, you're my dad. 1.00

02:49:36.000 You don't own me.

02:49:38.000 You're not my owner.

02:49:38.000 I didn't ask him to be here.

02:49:40.000 Yeah.

02:49:40.000 I didn't ask you to be here, bro.

02:49:41.000 You gotta let your kids be who the fuck they are, man. 1.00

02:49:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:49:45.000 And you can't help them too much either. 1.00

02:49:47.000 No.

02:49:47.000 You gotta stay away.

02:49:49.000 You gotta let them find their own little path.

02:49:51.000 Well, that's the thing.

02:49:51.000 Because if you do, you know, you hold their hand too much, not good.

02:49:55.000 Dude, I even said, I was like, Tresh, I really want you to understand, like, 19?

02:49:59.000 They're out.

02:50:00.000 They're out of the house.

02:50:02.000 Go buy your own Coke.

02:50:03.000 Yeah. 0.77

02:50:04.000 Go crash your own cars. 0.60

02:50:06.000 Do whatever you want to do, but get out of here. 0.73

02:50:07.000 Because I was just like...

02:50:09.000 That's my biggest thing.

02:50:10.000 I want them to live their life.

02:50:12.000 I want them to make mistakes.

02:50:13.000 I want them to fall down.

02:50:14.000 I want them to be able to learn how to pick themselves back up.

02:50:18.000 I come from...

02:50:19.000 We make a lot of mistakes.

02:50:23.000 And there was no one there.

02:50:24.000 I had a lot of beautiful support mentally.

02:50:27.000 But there's no financial support from my family or anything like that, really.

02:50:31.000 Do you think you're going to stay up there in Canada?

02:50:34.000 What if they lock down harder?

02:50:35.000 What if they keep going and the rest of the world is free?

02:50:39.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:50:40.000 Like, fuck, my farm's pretty tight. 0.99

02:50:41.000 I got enough land. 1.00

02:50:42.000 Like, fuck, I grow vegetables. 1.00

02:50:44.000 It's pretty fucking tight. 1.00

02:50:45.000 That is pretty cool. 0.97

02:50:46.000 Dude, I'm, like, self-sufficient.

02:50:49.000 Yeah, like, I can grow enough vegetables to feed my family.

02:50:52.000 All year round.

02:50:53.000 Do you have animals up there too?

02:50:54.000 Not yet.

02:50:54.000 You gonna?

02:50:55.000 I don't know.

02:50:56.000 It's a lot of responsibility and just with my time.

02:50:58.000 A couple of bison.

02:50:59.000 Yeah, just like one bison.

02:51:00.000 I don't have that much property.

02:51:02.000 A couple of bisons are sick to them. 1.00

02:51:03.000 You have a couple of bison and you can feed those fuckers. 1.00

02:51:05.000 You could eat one of them for two years. 1.00

02:51:06.000 Dude, a bison is so incredible. 0.98

02:51:08.000 I fucking did a show where we went to a bison ranch and we got to ride four-wheelers alongside like a herd. 0.99

02:51:16.000 And it is thunderous. 0.99

02:51:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:51:19.000 To ride on these four-wheelers with this bison rancher, and it was like the most beautiful thing ever. 1.00

02:51:24.000 And all of a sudden, he was just like, just, you gotta stay, they will come at you.

02:51:29.000 Because you're a moving target, too.

02:51:31.000 Right.

02:51:31.000 So, like, there's even a...

02:51:32.000 Threatening.

02:51:33.000 Yeah, well, it's just like, you're a machine.

02:51:34.000 They know that you're not a bison. 1.00

02:51:37.000 But riding along, it was like 250 bison.

02:51:41.000 Oh, my God.

02:51:41.000 And he was like, check this out.

02:51:43.000 He's like, just follow me.

02:51:44.000 And I was like, okay.

02:51:46.000 And he's like getting closer and he starts going faster.

02:51:48.000 And all of a sudden they just start running and start running. 0.96

02:51:51.000 And then all of a sudden he's like, and he fucking has this big noise making thing and he lets it off. 0.73

02:51:56.000 And all of a sudden it's like, and they're going, they can run like 60 miles an hour almost. 1.00

02:52:00.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:52:01.000 And so it's just like, it's so fast. 0.99

02:52:03.000 Like, I had to, like, reef on the four-wheeler to, like, keep up with these bison, this pack of bison, or herd of bison.

02:52:09.000 And it was, like, the most intense.

02:52:12.000 Why do you keep saying bison?

02:52:13.000 Bison?

02:52:15.000 Bison.

02:52:16.000 Bison.

02:52:16.000 I say bison.

02:52:18.000 There's no E-Y-E in there.

02:52:21.000 I'm from Canada.

02:52:22.000 What do you say?

02:52:22.000 I say I'm a bagel guy, too.

02:52:24.000 Oh, boy.

02:52:24.000 You got problems.

02:52:26.000 Bagel?

02:52:26.000 I say bagel.

02:52:28.000 I'm a bagel guy. 1.00

02:52:28.000 It's a fucking bagel, man. 1.00

02:52:30.000 I know, a bagel. 1.00

02:52:32.000 I said it the exact same way.

02:52:34.000 You get a bat, you put a...

02:52:35.000 I'm a milk.

02:52:36.000 I'm a milk.

02:52:36.000 I say milk, too.

02:52:37.000 You put your bagel in a bag. 1.00

02:52:39.000 You buy three of them at a fucking time. 1.00

02:52:41.000 Milk. 1.00

02:52:42.000 Milk?

02:52:42.000 Milk.

02:52:43.000 Milk?

02:52:44.000 Like Malcolm?

02:52:45.000 I don't know.

02:52:46.000 I got like a speech impediment.

02:52:49.000 There's no A's? 0.99

02:52:50.000 No, take off, eh?

02:52:52.000 Milk. 1.00

02:52:53.000 Fucking A. Get fucking straight. 1.00

02:52:55.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:52:56.000 Well, dude, we're at the three-hour mark, believe it or not. 1.00

02:52:58.000 This is three hours?

02:53:00.000 Yeah, we did three hours.

02:53:01.000 I have to piss so bad.

02:53:03.000 I know you do. 0.53

02:53:03.000 I can tell. 0.53

02:53:04.000 I see you shifting around. 1.00

02:53:05.000 My little fucking pecker is just bursting. 1.00

02:53:08.000 My foreskin's like tied up. 1.00

02:53:10.000 Oh, my God. 0.95

02:53:12.000 This was a lot of fun, man.

02:53:13.000 Joe Rogan.

02:53:14.000 I've been experienced.

02:53:15.000 Is that what they say at the end?

02:53:16.000 No, but now that you did, I hope nobody else does.

02:53:19.000 I feel experienced! 1.00

02:53:21.000 Dude, we talked about a lot of shit. 0.99

02:53:24.000 I appreciate it. 0.99

02:53:26.000 I enjoyed it very much.

02:53:27.000 Hey, thank you.

02:53:28.000 And I appreciate you, man.

02:53:29.000 You're a good dude.

02:53:30.000 You're a fun guy.

02:53:30.000 Thank you.

02:53:31.000 And tell everybody how they can listen to powerful Truth Angels and how they can see your YouTube stuff and all your jazz.

02:53:38.000 Well, you know, you can go to Matty Matheson.

02:53:40.000 I think just Google Matty Matheson in YouTube. 0.99

02:53:43.000 Subscribe, like, fucking, you know. 0.99

02:53:45.000 Is that on YouTube as well? 1.00

02:53:46.000 Powerful Truth Angels?

02:53:47.000 Powerful Truth Angels, yeah.

02:53:48.000 It's on its own page.

02:53:49.000 We always got 10,000.

02:53:50.000 No, we just beat.

02:53:51.000 Yeah, we're over 10,000 subscribers, Joe.

02:53:54.000 Congratulations.

02:53:54.000 Yeah, we're going to get a plaque soon, probably.

02:53:56.000 Woo! 0.99

02:53:58.000 Yeah, I'm doing really well, actually, Joe.

02:54:00.000 So thank you so much.

02:54:01.000 Yeah, I don't know how to find me.

02:54:02.000 Google me. 0.99

02:54:03.000 I don't fucking care. 0.99

02:54:04.000 I'm the worst plugger. 0.99

02:54:05.000 I'm the anti-plugger. 1.00

02:54:06.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:54:06.000 Well, I'll plug you because I think you're awesome. 0.99

02:54:08.000 I really do enjoy your shows.

02:54:09.000 I enjoy your cooking.

02:54:11.000 I enjoy your enthusiasm, your personality.

02:54:13.000 You're a fun dude, man.

02:54:14.000 I really enjoy it.

02:54:15.000 We'll do this again.

02:54:15.000 We'll do it again.

02:54:16.000 We'll do it again.

02:54:17.000 We'll come back soon.

02:54:18.000 We'll do it again.

02:54:19.000 We'll come back soon. 1.00

02:54:20.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:54:20.000 We'll do it live. 1.00

02:54:21.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:54:22.000 Let's go. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 28, 2021

Joe Rogan Experience #1641 - Matty Matheson

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