The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1666 - Duncan Trussell

00:00:12.000 Welcome to episode 1,666.

00:00:37.000 We're good to go.

00:00:48.000 There can be only one.

00:00:50.000 Why?

00:00:51.000 I don't know.

00:00:52.000 That's the rules.

00:00:53.000 Them's the rules.

00:00:54.000 That's a terrible rule.

00:00:56.000 That's like the worst rule.

00:00:57.000 But for episode 1666, there was only one option.

00:01:02.000 That was you.

00:01:02.000 Oh, thank you.

00:01:04.000 I'm honored by that.

00:01:05.000 Thank you so much, Joe.

00:01:06.000 It's so nice to be here.

00:01:07.000 Dude, it's so nice to see you.

00:01:10.000 You're such a good friend that every time I see you, I'm transported Like, there's no time lost.

00:01:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:17.000 When you're so tight with someone...

00:01:19.000 That when you see them again, you're like transported.

00:01:23.000 Like you're immediately back to where I last saw you again.

00:01:26.000 There's no like, hey, God, haven't seen you in a while.

00:01:30.000 How are you?

00:01:31.000 What's going on?

00:01:32.000 It's like, ah!

00:01:33.000 Yeah, that's real friendship.

00:01:35.000 I mean, that's it.

00:01:36.000 If it's not that, what is it?

00:01:38.000 I'm super concerned about this wig catching fire.

00:01:40.000 We're surrounded by candles and I believe this wig is flammable.

00:01:46.000 Yeah, that wig is from China.

00:01:48.000 I don't know what it is.

00:01:49.000 That could be some bizarre synthetic.

00:01:50.000 That could be anything. 1.00

00:01:52.000 This is the hair of a billionaire who said the wrong shit. 1.00

00:01:54.000 No shit, and they just scalped him. 1.00

00:01:56.000 They probably made him grow his hair first. 1.00

00:01:59.000 They probably kept him in a tunnel somewhere and made him eat rats, whatever rats he could catch.

00:02:04.000 Yeah.

00:02:05.000 And just gave him hair vitamins.

00:02:07.000 And then when his hair was long enough to make a wig out of it, they let him go.

00:02:14.000 That's a lot of work to get some hair. 0.99

00:02:17.000 Yeah, now all he does is coach John Cena.

00:02:20.000 His job is to coach John Cena on what to say.

00:02:23.000 Dude, that was weird.

00:02:24.000 That was really weird.

00:02:25.000 That was one of the weirdest things.

00:02:27.000 I'm not a fan of, or not a fan of John Cena.

00:02:29.000 No John Cena opinion, but that was just an odd...

00:02:33.000 It was scary.

00:02:34.000 Because they want, it's a lot, I guess it's just a lot of money, man.

00:02:37.000 The Chinese dollar, it's Here's how much money it is.

00:02:39.000 Ready for this?

00:02:40.000 Mm-hmm.

00:02:40.000 That movie made $160 million the opening weekend.

00:02:44.000 Yeah.

00:02:44.000 I believe $134 million of it was from China.

00:02:48.000 Oh, God.

00:02:49.000 Oh, God.

00:02:50.000 We got to get in.

00:02:51.000 Let's do our apologies to China. 1.00

00:02:53.000 I need to learn Mandarin and start talking shit Mandarin. 1.00

00:02:56.000 Just saying... 0.99

00:03:01.000 Start doing my act in Mandarin.

00:03:03.000 It sounds cool.

00:03:04.000 It sounds great.

00:03:06.000 Well, amazing.

00:03:07.000 The most impressive thing about that video was not just that China got John Cena to cuck, but also that John Cena speaks perfect Mandarin.

00:03:16.000 Yeah.

00:03:16.000 How long did that take?

00:03:18.000 It's a mystery.

00:03:19.000 I don't know, man.

00:03:19.000 It was just strange.

00:03:20.000 That's like...

00:03:22.000 That's some really really the most it's again like you know we're watching that fight oh my god when we're watching that fight last night and you're just watching it and you're trying to make sense of the new reality you know because it's like you got to accept it but he's wearing a pikachu medallion Fighting like the best boxer alive today,

00:03:46.000 you know?

00:03:47.000 But you have to watch it from the perspective of like, well, this is what is happening now.

00:03:52.000 Because otherwise you get this weird spinning vertigo. 0.98

00:03:56.000 Like, what the fuck universe am I in? 0.96

00:03:58.000 Same thing when you're like watching John Cena do some... 0.99

00:04:02.000 Weird apology in Mandarin.

00:04:05.000 It's this sense of like, what?

00:04:07.000 This is a malfunction.

00:04:09.000 This is a breakdown.

00:04:10.000 I don't get this.

00:04:12.000 When in the history of the United States, imagine some old video of John Wayne doing some apology in another language.

00:04:21.000 It's just weird.

00:04:22.000 It is weird, but it's a warning to everybody, right?

00:04:26.000 The people that don't, they're not taking this sort of cultural shift seriously.

00:04:31.000 When you see an enormous alpha male in John Cena, John Cena's arms are so big, it looks like they're supposed to be a foot longer, but someone sawed them off and put like a fist Here.

00:04:44.000 It's like if my forearm went down only to here and then the fist was there, his wrists are enormous.

00:04:51.000 He's such a gorilla, right?

00:04:53.000 And to see that guy saying it in Chinese and you read what he actually said, it's hard to say, right?

00:05:01.000 Because one thing, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:05:03.000 I was like, what did he actually say?

00:05:05.000 Because I don't speak Mandarin.

00:05:07.000 I wish someone maybe that spoke Mandarin could translate it and tell me whether or not that was accurate.

00:05:13.000 I'm assuming it was accurate because I haven't heard anything...

00:05:17.000 You know, people who speak Mandarin must have gotten a hold of it since then.

00:05:20.000 Sure.

00:05:21.000 But it was just weird to see an apology for just saying that a country exists.

00:05:26.000 That's essentially what it was, right?

00:05:27.000 He said, Taiwan is a country.

00:05:30.000 And he said that...

00:05:31.000 I mean, that's all he said wrong.

00:05:32.000 Taiwan was going to be the first country to see the movie.

00:05:36.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.99

00:05:38.000 You can't say that, which is bullshit.

00:05:41.000 You know, also that thing that just popped up, they said it was a mistake, but Bing apparently made it so that if you image search, the Tiananmen Square guy holding the suitcase didn't show up on the day of, on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre. 0.99

00:05:58.000 And so everybody's like, what the fuck? 0.66

00:06:01.000 Just like, are you, are you like owned by China now? 1.00

00:06:05.000 You know?

00:06:06.000 That is a really strange form of invasion, isn't it?

00:06:11.000 It's like, it's not the normal kind of invasion.

00:06:13.000 We're thinking about invasions from old historical versions of invasions, but that's not how it works anymore.

00:06:21.000 Now it's, you know, if you get your technology into another country, if you become the supplier of a lot of their pharmaceuticals, all these things, then you don't really need to invade.

00:06:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:06:35.000 If you've bought up a lot of their property...

00:06:37.000 You don't need to fly with jets.

00:06:39.000 Because you're buying it.

00:06:41.000 To me, that's where countries like the United States, what makes them so amazing is also this huge...

00:06:50.000 Terrible weakness, which is they have a permeable membrane. 1.00

00:06:54.000 Shit can get in there easier than other places, you know? 0.99

00:06:57.000 And, like, especially now with the ability to, like, just have a thousand AI bots running various Twitter accounts expressing... 0.99

00:07:07.000 Kind of similar sentiment regarding whatever the fuck it is you want to promote? 0.95

00:07:11.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:12.000 Woo! 0.99

00:07:12.000 That's crazy! 0.99

00:07:13.000 You could just warp people's minds any way you want.

00:07:16.000 I mean, you know, we have no...

00:07:19.000 I'm not just talking state agencies either. 0.71

00:07:21.000 I mean, just cobbles of, like, anarchists who feel like just fucking around with the zeitgeist could theoretically just...

00:07:29.000 Put out a shit ton of bots or phone banks of people, putting weird ideas into the culture that, you know, you hear it enough times, you start thinking, like, I guess that is true. 0.86

00:07:40.000 Right.

00:07:40.000 That must be true.

00:07:41.000 I don't know if you've ever had the thing happen where you're just scanning Twitter and you see some completely wrong, like, deeply wrong Fact and physics, but you were just shitting or something.

00:07:53.000 So you're like, well, that's interesting.

00:07:55.000 And then later you repeat it without looking it up to see if it's true, and then you go back to see it.

00:07:59.000 This happened.

00:08:00.000 I mean, you realize like three tweets above that tweet, it's like the guy's like, I'm the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe.

00:08:09.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:08:11.000 You're like, oh fuck! 1.00

00:08:12.000 I repeated some fact I heard from a guy who thinks he's the reincarnation of Marilyn Monroe literally at dinner! 1.00

00:08:20.000 You know, that's what I'm saying is it leaks out.

00:08:22.000 And so it's just trippy, you know?

00:08:24.000 It's just weird to imagine that, like, what country are we even in the United States anymore?

00:08:30.000 It's confusing because we're really governed by money.

00:08:34.000 When we have no money, we have nothing.

00:08:37.000 If we run out of money, all bets are off because we don't have money to fix the roads, we don't have money to keep the grid up.

00:08:44.000 So we have to have a certain amount of money.

00:08:47.000 And one of the things that became abundantly clear during COVID was that we rely on a lot of other countries to make our stuff.

00:08:55.000 When they were running short of certain supplies, and medicine even, they're like, hey, how come we don't make this?

00:09:03.000 We don't self-sustain.

00:09:04.000 And it made a lot of people think that, oh, I need to get a garden.

00:09:09.000 I need to have food in my house.

00:09:11.000 I need to be self-sustaining.

00:09:13.000 The same way a country needs to be like that, but much like the country.

00:09:18.000 As soon as we start getting the gears of industry back rolling and moving, we forget.

00:09:23.000 Oh, the grid's back on?

00:09:24.000 I forget. 0.99

00:09:25.000 Like out here, the grid went out for a whole fucking week, man. 0.97

00:09:29.000 Nobody had power. 0.98

00:09:30.000 It was wild.

00:09:31.000 The streets were covered in ice.

00:09:32.000 It was wild.

00:09:34.000 And everybody was like, dude, that's it.

00:09:36.000 I'm going to start storing food, and I'm going to start...

00:09:38.000 But then as soon as the power goes on, you've got to go back to work.

00:09:41.000 Most people forget.

00:09:43.000 And I remember when they banned Huawei...

00:09:46.000 When you couldn't buy Huawei phones.

00:09:48.000 And this is why, because I'm a phone dork.

00:09:52.000 I'm really into phones.

00:09:54.000 I spent a lot of time on YouTube watching MKBHD and watching Lewis from Unbox Therapy and watching Flossie Carter.

00:10:04.000 I really enjoy watching the technology of phones increase in this really crazy way.

00:10:12.000 I'm fascinated by it.

00:10:14.000 I don't necessarily understand why, because when I look at the applicable uses in my life, like, how much do I use my phone?

00:10:22.000 Like, all the capabilities of it.

00:10:24.000 Very little.

00:10:24.000 I text my friends, I'm like, watch a YouTube video, take a picture of something.

00:10:28.000 I don't do a lot of shit with my phone. 0.99

00:10:29.000 But I'm fascinated with these goddamn things. 0.99

00:10:33.000 I'm fascinated by where they go. 0.99

00:10:35.000 And I was going to buy a Huawei, I think it was like a Mate 10 Pro Porsche edition.

00:10:43.000 I was trying to figure out how to get it to work in America.

00:10:45.000 Because they work on like, you got to make sure that one works on the right CDMA, because they have like different systems overseas and other countries.

00:10:55.000 So I was trying to find out how to buy this, and Porsche Design was making the dopest phone.

00:11:01.000 And I was interested in doing this, and then all of a sudden I started reading on these forums, they're going to take it down. 0.66

00:11:06.000 They're going to not allow Huawei to sell anything in America, because we caught them Doing stuff with routers or some shit.

00:11:15.000 I don't remember the whole story.

00:11:16.000 But I remember thinking, whoa, when have you ever heard that before? 0.98

00:11:20.000 Where they said, hey, a company can't sell shit in our country because we think you're compromised by the government of your country and you're sneaking in. 0.98

00:11:28.000 Not just like, oh, they hacked into a router and now they got all the Facebook data. 0.99

00:11:34.000 No, no, no. 0.99

00:11:35.000 No, the whole company You can't sell shit here anymore. 0.99

00:11:39.000 You can't sell their phones anymore. 0.99

00:11:41.000 They were about to go, I think they're gonna be on AT&T and all these other big providers.

00:11:49.000 It's like what happened, I can't remember which president it was, but remember that president?

00:11:55.000 I think it was the Russians. 0.93

00:11:57.000 These cute kids came in and presented the president with some kind of gift from Russia.

00:12:03.000 I think he hung it up on a wall or something.

00:12:06.000 And it had a bug in it.

00:12:07.000 It was just a bug in the Oval Office.

00:12:11.000 Of course.

00:12:12.000 But that's similar to Wu Wei, but for everyone.

00:12:17.000 It's the same thing.

00:12:18.000 You get a little, I don't know, speck of whatever the fuck this weird technology is mixed in with some...

00:12:26.000 Mass-produced stuff that goes all over the planet.

00:12:29.000 And now you can listen, not just to, like, government officials, but to what people are saying.

00:12:36.000 And then get that data, gather it up, and then feed it to an AI. You can replicate the personality of the country.

00:12:46.000 So that thing, you know, like, remember the old days, like, you'd get a Twitter bot, but their English was kind of fucked up.

00:12:53.000 Like, there was something about it that was like, or, you know, you get a call from one of those, one of those, like, fake Social Security people.

00:13:00.000 They say they're going to delete your Social Security number.

00:13:02.000 I don't know if you've gotten any of these or not.

00:13:04.000 Yes.

00:13:05.000 But like, you know, they've got an accent.

00:13:07.000 They can't...

00:13:07.000 They don't...

00:13:08.000 Obviously, the way they're talking, you're not from the fucking Social Security office. 0.99

00:13:12.000 Not because you can't have an accent working. 0.99

00:13:13.000 John Cash Strassel is calling you from the Social Security office.

00:13:18.000 Yeah.

00:13:19.000 You are in non-compliance.

00:13:22.000 Yeah.

00:13:23.000 That is the...

00:13:24.000 I love those calls, by the way.

00:13:25.000 Especially when I'm recording an intro for the podcast.

00:13:28.000 Do you play them?

00:13:29.000 Insta-recording.

00:13:31.000 You know what, I have, cause generally I'm late on the record or I just don't, cause you know, you can trigger them real quick. 0.99

00:13:38.000 Like they get so mad and then they'll always say something about fucking your mom or like, you know, your mom's got the biggest dick and then they'll hang up on you. 0.99

00:13:45.000 But my friend Pemberton, Got one real, like he's got a call up where he got one really, really good. 1.00

00:13:53.000 It's just fun to do. 0.90

00:13:54.000 But anyway, man, my point is, you siphon all this fucking data, feed it to an AI, run that through some kind of voice simulator so it sounds like a person, and now you've got like a legion of fake Americans interacting. 0.98

00:14:09.000 Right. 0.99

00:14:10.000 And that's good.

00:14:11.000 Then you could just control the culture.

00:14:13.000 And that's 100% happening.

00:14:15.000 Well, I mean, yeah.

00:14:16.000 That's 100% happening right now.

00:14:18.000 I mean, not just from China, from Russia.

00:14:20.000 Russia, but not just from Russia, from corporations. 0.97

00:14:23.000 People have done that with those guys and then called another one and had them talk to each other and they can't figure out for about an hour what the fuck's happening. 0.95

00:14:31.000 Oh, that's so great. 0.94

00:14:33.000 Totally makes sense.

00:14:34.000 I mean, what they're doing with the Internet Research Agency, or at least what they were doing prior to 2016, if we assume that they don't get any more sophisticated over the last four or five years, who would it be so silly?

00:14:48.000 This lady, Renee DiResta, I heard her on Sam Harris's podcast, and I got her on mine, and she was explaining to me all the research that she did, looking into how the Russians were making these Facebook pages, not the Russians, just one agency, I should say, Internet Research Agency.

00:15:04.000 They were making these memes, and she's like, hundreds of thousands of memes, and a lot of them were really funny.

00:15:09.000 She's like, I was really laughing while I was doing this.

00:15:11.000 And she said she got to study how they created these pages, and that's where it was really interesting.

00:15:16.000 Like, they would create these pages, and they would use them for a while, like maybe a Simpsons fan page or something like that, and they would get a certain amount of following, and then they would switch it over to Occupy Wall Street.

00:15:28.000 Or they would switch it over to Black Lives Matter.

00:15:30.000 Or they would switch it over to LBGTQPage.

00:15:32.000 And they would just get a bunch of followers and then just use those followers.

00:15:36.000 Use a ton of hashtags and connect people through hashtags and they would just try to figure out what sticks.

00:15:43.000 And they would have meme pages, and they would organize arguments.

00:15:47.000 So they organized a Texas separatist meeting across the street from some Islamic pride rally.

00:15:57.000 So they got the two of them on catty-corner streets.

00:16:00.000 So they're yelling at each other. 0.96

00:16:02.000 You ever see that video of the cat, and he's on a roof, and a crow gets behind him and starts fucking with him? 0.92

00:16:08.000 And then he gets the cat to fight with another cat. 0.94

00:16:12.000 Oh yeah, yes.

00:16:12.000 Have you seen that video?

00:16:13.000 Yes, I've seen it.

00:16:14.000 It's amazing.

00:16:14.000 It's an amazing video.

00:16:16.000 This crow is so slick. 1.00

00:16:18.000 He like fucks with the cat, like, hey man, hey, what the fuck's going on with you, bro? 1.00

00:16:22.000 And the cat's like, and then there's another cat that's on another rooftop, just like five feet away, and that cat, he looks at that cat, he's like, man, fuck you. 1.00

00:16:31.000 And then, why are you staring at me, man, while this crow's fucking with me? 1.00

00:16:34.000 And the crow goes and fucks with him. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:36.000 And the crow literally goes back and forth fucking with cat to cat and then they jump on each other and in a tumble of bodies fall off the roof. 0.99

00:16:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:44.000 It's amazing. 0.99

00:16:45.000 It's amazing.

00:16:46.000 That's what the internet research agency is.

00:16:48.000 Yeah, and not just the internet research agency.

00:16:50.000 I mean, this is the thing.

00:16:51.000 It's like, this is what I've realized I've been doing is anytime any kind of crazy shit happens, I assign responsibility to some unknown state agency because we think there's no way Any normal group of people could do that. 0.95

00:17:06.000 It's got to be a country with a shit ton of money. 0.96

00:17:08.000 Right. 0.74

00:17:09.000 No group of people could do that.

00:17:10.000 But I'm realizing that is just not the case anymore because the technology that everyone has access to is sufficient to at least like in a really degraded way imitate what you know probably what state agencies are doing meaning that now It's pure anarchy,

00:17:30.000 because you assume those, like, whatever the fuck they are, the UAPs, we are all like, oh, we know it's not a state agency, or if it is, it's like deeply secret. 0.99

00:17:42.000 It's like, motherfucker, you think it's a state agency? 1.00

00:17:45.000 What if it's just a group of geniuses who, like, Secretly crack their own thing in their basement and they're like just fucking around with this thing. 0.99

00:17:53.000 You know, that's the obvious thing coming out now that everyone suspects that the virus came from the virology lab in the place it was at the epicenter.

00:18:06.000 Where they used to study the exact virus.

00:18:08.000 Everybody, not everybody. 0.99

00:18:09.000 At first they were like, oh fuck, it definitely came from there. 0.99

00:18:12.000 And then they're like, well actually there's the wet markets there. 0.97

00:18:15.000 But anyway, the point is like, what if, What if you're like an hyper-eco-environmentalist group and you know that if you engineer this thing that's got like an extra two weeks or whatever asymptomatic,

00:18:31.000 like you engineer a thing not to kill people but to fuck up economies. 0.68

00:18:35.000 Right. 0.71

00:18:36.000 And then you go to the place where there's an institute of virology and you release it there.

00:18:41.000 And of course people are gonna be like, well, it must have come from there.

00:18:45.000 Right?

00:18:46.000 That's a good point.

00:18:46.000 We just assume it's from this place or that place.

00:18:49.000 Right.

00:18:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:50.000 It could be from anywhere.

00:18:52.000 Well, three people that worked in that lab got sick, but we're assuming they got sick from that lab.

00:18:56.000 What a great cover if you sprayed them at a restaurant.

00:18:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 Get them to go in there.

00:19:01.000 Right.

00:19:02.000 Get everyone sick.

00:19:02.000 It seems like it comes from there.

00:19:04.000 Dude, Duncan Trussell thinking on a 4D chess scale.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 Yeah, man.

00:19:08.000 I like it.

00:19:09.000 Well, it's scary, though.

00:19:10.000 I mean, this is, again, like, to me, that's the part that's, like, a little daunting. 0.99

00:19:16.000 And, you know, this shit, you know, it's not like it's going to get better. 0.99

00:19:20.000 It might get better. 0.99

00:19:22.000 I think if any way that's going to make it better is technology.

00:19:27.000 I think technology is going to allow ultimate transparency where you could read minds.

00:19:33.000 Once you could clearly see people's intent, it's going to chase all the demons into the shadows like roaches with the lights on.

00:19:40.000 You're going to see.

00:19:41.000 You kind of tell, but you kind of allow some of it to exist.

00:19:46.000 Like when you see Schumer and Pelosi kneeling with African garb on, and you're like, what are you doing?

00:19:55.000 What is happening here?

00:19:56.000 What is this weirdness? 0.99

00:19:58.000 When you see someone doing weird shit, you kind of, okay. 0.98

00:20:01.000 Politicians, for example, they're the best. 0.99

00:20:03.000 They'll say a speech, but it's off.

00:20:05.000 It doesn't sound like anything you would say.

00:20:07.000 They're doing weird things with their hands.

00:20:09.000 You accept a certain amount of insincerity, but you don't like it.

00:20:14.000 It's like you're talking about the Uncanny Valley. 0.97

00:20:17.000 That thing where when you're looking at CGI and it's not quite right and it's fucking creepy. 0.95

00:20:22.000 It's that thing. 0.99

00:20:25.000 This seems to be happening across the fucking board. 0.98

00:20:27.000 Where you're seeing what does appear to be A kind of clumsy, alien attempt to express solidarity with something, but it doesn't quite understand humans. 0.99

00:20:44.000 It's not like it doesn't just understand whatever the fuck it's trying to express connectivity to. 0.83

00:20:49.000 It's like it doesn't understand the way normal people interact. 0.94

00:20:53.000 And I think if you get a political class and you put them in a city where they can get on underground We're good to go.

00:21:25.000 You've got advisor upon advisor upon advisor articulating some expression of what's supposed to be the will of the people, but that's been warped a little bit by the lobbyists.

00:21:38.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:21:38.000 And also, you are thinking like, fuck, I want to get re-elected. 0.99

00:21:42.000 I need millions of dollars to get re-elected. 0.99

00:21:44.000 And that's not going to come from anybody but certain corporations.

00:21:48.000 But then those corporations have kind of loose ties with...

00:21:53.000 Countries that are adversaries, as they say, meaning that all of a sudden it's not just like some lobbyist who wants there to be a lack of regulations on oil pipelines getting the ear of some politician.

00:22:08.000 But it's a corporation that's a little bit influenced by a completely different country getting the ear of the politician. 1.00

00:22:17.000 Fuck! 1.00

00:22:19.000 Now it's like, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:22:20.000 It's like suddenly we're getting like this thing that's some kind of like hybrid.

00:22:26.000 It's not a country anymore.

00:22:27.000 It's becoming more of a, I don't know, like just some hyper connected thing that is like probably not quite What you would traditionally call a country.

00:22:40.000 Well, a country didn't exist in the form of the United States until 1776, and then it's evolved from there, right?

00:22:47.000 As money starts getting weirder and weirder, because money's all digital now, right?

00:22:52.000 It's all flying around, and then what it becomes?

00:22:54.000 Bitcoin money.

00:22:54.000 That's really digital.

00:22:56.000 We get into cryptos.

00:22:57.000 If crypto becomes the general currency of the world, and then what's to stop that from happening with language?

00:23:03.000 So we have a universal currency that doesn't have some backing behind it. 0.95

00:23:12.000 It's just this weird thing where people just agree that a Bitcoin is worth $52 today or whatever the fuck it is. 0.63

00:23:19.000 It's a weird one, right? 0.54

00:23:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:21.000 How do you stop that from happening with language?

00:23:25.000 What if people come along with a language that's easy to learn, you can learn it, it's fun, there's games you can play, you can learn it while you're playing a game, and you get points?

00:23:35.000 What if there's a Call of Duty language? 0.87

00:23:38.000 No bullshit.

00:23:38.000 You know how different video games are thought about creating their own coins?

00:23:42.000 Sure.

00:23:43.000 Different people have different coins, right?

00:23:45.000 They're making their own coins.

00:23:47.000 What's to stop you from making a language that goes along with a video game, and as you get really good at the video game, you learn the language?

00:23:53.000 Also, yeah, if like Musk's neural mesh works out, and so we can expedite the Ability to learn new languages.

00:24:00.000 So it's not just like new languages are being formed, but then also you can just digest them like instantaneously.

00:24:07.000 So now you get this like weird hyper-evolving language that is probably going to be the language that the settlers speak on the moon colonies and the Mars colonies and the asteroid miners.

00:24:18.000 You're not going to be able to speak You're gonna have to have some pigeon. 0.99

00:24:22.000 By the way, I watched the Stanford professor that you had on.

00:24:26.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:24:27.000 You have so many people on.

00:24:28.000 You had a Stanford professor who's like a cultural biologist or something.

00:24:34.000 He's showing how gene expression affects just basically a lot of humanity.

00:24:40.000 I wish I could remember his name.

00:24:41.000 It's a wonderful lecture.

00:24:42.000 If you look it up on YouTube...

00:24:43.000 How long ago was this?

00:24:45.000 I don't know, man.

00:24:46.000 I just googled him and it showed up.

00:24:47.000 Huberman?

00:24:48.000 I think it might be Huberman.

00:24:49.000 I don't know.

00:24:50.000 Andrew Huberman?

00:24:50.000 Whoever it was.

00:24:51.000 He's a genius.

00:24:52.000 Did he look like a handsome soldier?

00:24:54.000 No.

00:24:55.000 No?

00:24:57.000 Huberman looks like a scientist in a Marvel Comics movie. 1.00

00:25:01.000 Like, that's not a fucking scientist. 0.99

00:25:02.000 But he's like a legitimate scientist. 0.99

00:25:05.000 Like an absolutely super well-respected...

00:25:09.000 I believe he's a...

00:25:11.000 What is Huberman's discipline, officially?

00:25:14.000 Scientist.

00:25:15.000 Neuroscientist.

00:25:15.000 This guy looks like an acid chemist.

00:25:18.000 Oh! 0.60

00:25:19.000 Oh! 1.00

00:25:20.000 Who the fuck would that be? 1.00

00:25:24.000 Look up. 1.00

00:25:25.000 It's Stanford.

00:25:26.000 It's like he did a...

00:25:26.000 How long ago?

00:25:28.000 Man, I'm just late at night.

00:25:30.000 I'm just watching Stanford lectures.

00:25:32.000 I don't know.

00:25:32.000 I'm not looking at times.

00:25:34.000 Sapolsky?

00:25:34.000 What?

00:25:35.000 Robert Sapolsky?

00:25:36.000 Sapolsky.

00:25:36.000 Oh, he's one of my favorites.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, Sapolsky.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 Oh, my God.

00:25:40.000 He's the guy that got me to think, first of all, the hardest about parasites.

00:25:45.000 Because his big thing was toxoplasmosis.

00:25:47.000 That's what I found out about him.

00:25:49.000 He was teaching a lecture on toxoplasmosis, and I was like, oh my god, do I have that?

00:25:54.000 Because I've had cats, and I had wild cats at one point in time.

00:26:00.000 It's really common in cats, and really common in cat people.

00:26:04.000 It's really common in poorer parts of the world, where they have a lot of feral cats.

00:26:11.000 Some places, like France at one point in time, 50% of the people were infected by this brain parasite that comes from cats.

00:26:18.000 Do you know the whole story behind the parasite?

00:26:20.000 Oh yeah, but I loved it.

00:26:22.000 For some reason, it never gets old.

00:26:24.000 It never gets old. 0.98

00:26:25.000 It's a fascinating parasite, and this is what it does. 0.91

00:26:28.000 It gets into rats, and it hijacks the reward systems.

00:26:32.000 It hijacks the way the rat's brain works, and it makes the rat sexually attracted to the smell of cat urine. 1.00

00:26:39.000 So their balls swell up, their dick gets hard. 1.00

00:26:43.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:26:44.000 How embarrassing.

00:26:45.000 How embarrassing.

00:26:46.000 And it also simultaneously removes their fear.

00:26:50.000 It's so strange. 0.99

00:26:52.000 And it's a strategy for this parasite. 0.80

00:26:55.000 I'm so sorry, Doug, because I'll forget it. 1.00

00:26:57.000 Imagine if there was like a grizzly bear parasite that made your dick hard around bears. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Oh my god, that would be hilarious. 1.00

00:27:14.000 That would be fucking hilarious. 0.99

00:27:16.000 That like Alaskan park rangers is like a new thing they gotta deal with. 1.00

00:27:20.000 These fucking assholes out there with like rock hard dicks. 1.00

00:27:24.000 Why is your dick hard soldier? 1.00

00:27:27.000 I gotta get to the bears! 1.00

00:27:30.000 That's hilarious, but that's what it is, man.

00:27:33.000 And the proportions are pretty similar too.

00:27:35.000 Like rat to cat versus person to bear. 0.99

00:27:38.000 Pretty fucking similar. 0.99

00:27:39.000 It's crazy to think somehow that happened in this dimension. 0.98

00:27:45.000 That is how long we've been here.

00:27:48.000 It's just crazy to think.

00:27:50.000 Because that just seems, if we're designing the simulator, that's a funny thing we do as a joke.

00:27:56.000 Let's make it so that there's a parasite that makes rats horny when they smell cat piss. 1.00

00:28:02.000 It's so crazy.

00:28:02.000 And it does more than that, man.

00:28:04.000 It gets them horny, it gets them to not be afraid, and then it reproduces.

00:28:10.000 Then they start a podcast!

00:28:11.000 I'm sorry.

00:28:12.000 No, it reproduces inside the cat's gut.

00:28:15.000 That's the only way this parasite reproduces. 0.84

00:28:18.000 Right.

00:28:18.000 So it tricks the rat into getting close to the cat.

00:28:22.000 There's some sort of weird thing that's going on.

00:28:25.000 That is a complex deception.

00:28:28.000 That's not a regular deception.

00:28:30.000 No.

00:28:30.000 You're like, no, I didn't work this way.

00:28:33.000 No, it didn't work that way.

00:28:34.000 How many thousands of times does a rat have to get eaten by the cat or killed by the cat before they figure out how to do it right, where it's real consistent?

00:28:41.000 Yeah.

00:28:42.000 I mean, I guess it's just mutations.

00:28:44.000 I don't know about that, man.

00:28:47.000 It's definitely mutations, but I almost feel like there's a missing element To what makes things work that we're not tuned into.

00:28:56.000 We have these mechanisms, and this is no disrespect to the people that study this, and obviously I'm a moron, but all these people that are looking at this and looking at these mechanisms, I agree with all their work.

00:29:06.000 I'm not saying that I disagree that these mechanisms are in place and that they can show a clear cause and effect to certain genes and why they express themselves and certain Evolutionary traits that are beneficial to whatever animal. 0.97

00:29:19.000 But I think there's also some other weird shit going on, man. 0.63

00:29:22.000 I think there's multiple things going on. 0.98

00:29:25.000 And I think it's almost like there's information out there in experience.

00:29:29.000 And that information, when animals get jacked or when things go wrong, that information still manages to transfer out into the tribe.

00:29:38.000 You know, in some sort of non-verbal communication. 0.96

00:29:40.000 So I think it does that to like the parasites. 0.89

00:29:43.000 I think it works that way with people. 0.54

00:29:45.000 I think it works that way with a lot of stuff.

00:29:47.000 I think ideas and like tones, the way people see things, generally spreads almost like a virus as much as it spreads like information.

00:29:56.000 That's right.

00:29:57.000 There's a weird thing to it. 0.99

00:29:59.000 If you look at parasites, and how the fuck a parasite figured out a rewire, like, hey, when the rats eat us, we don't fucking breed, okay? 0.99

00:30:09.000 Because we can't reproduce inside the rat's gut. 1.00

00:30:13.000 We need to get in that fucking cat. 1.00

00:30:14.000 How do we do this? 1.00

00:30:15.000 So they figured out how to get in the cat.

00:30:18.000 And the way to get in the cat is to trick the rat.

00:30:20.000 And then it gets to people, because people love cats, right?

00:30:23.000 So they tell pregnant women, never touch kitty litter. 0.99

00:30:26.000 Yeah.

00:30:27.000 That stuff can get in you.

00:30:28.000 And if it gets in you, it fucks with the child's development.

00:30:31.000 It's related to decrease in IQ, increase in impulsive behavior, increase in...

00:30:41.000 Sapolsky was saying that there was an...

00:30:43.000 I don't know about the IQ thing.

00:30:44.000 Google that.

00:30:45.000 I might be wrong about that.

00:30:49.000 Toxoplasmosis in children leads to a decrease in IQ. The decrease in IQ thing is like, what the fuck causes IQ, right? 0.99

00:30:56.000 What are all the little pieces that are moving in place there? 0.98

00:31:01.000 Sapolsky said that motorcycle victims, when he was doing his residency, they would come in and there was a disproportionate amount of motorcycle accidents that have toxoplasmosis in their system when they would test him.

00:31:14.000 So the doctor that he was working with when he was doing his residency told him, let's test him for toxo.

00:31:20.000 And he's like, there's a disproportionate number because it makes him reckless.

00:31:24.000 It makes people reckless. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:31:25.000 That's so weird. 1.00

00:31:26.000 Also, another thing that's wild.

00:31:29.000 When you look at toxoplasmosis infections, there's some sort of a connection to successful soccer teams.

00:31:36.000 What?

00:31:37.000 Yeah, countries with successful soccer teams generally have a higher rate of toxo.

00:31:42.000 But it doesn't necessarily mean it's the toxo that's causing them to be successful.

00:31:47.000 It could just be coincidental because those are the countries that are really obsessed with soccer.

00:31:53.000 Because it doesn't require much money to enter.

00:31:55.000 Like, poor people can play it.

00:31:56.000 You just need, like, a ball of tape and you can kick that around, right?

00:32:00.000 So, like, the idea is, like, there's a lot of games that come out of soccer that aren't soccer.

00:32:05.000 Like, they start playing it and get really good at it.

00:32:07.000 I think the IQ thing is something similar.

00:32:09.000 Oh, it is true.

00:32:10.000 It's something that's overrepresented among people with only elementary education.

00:32:15.000 Right.

00:32:15.000 So it's just about who they looked at for that stuff.

00:32:17.000 Right.

00:32:17.000 Can you scroll that up so I can see if the arm is in the way?

00:32:19.000 Just up.

00:32:20.000 Just go that way.

00:32:22.000 Oh, sorry.

00:32:24.000 Analysis, a sample of 857 conscripts showed toxoplasmosa.

00:32:29.000 Positive subjects were significantly overrepresented among people with only elementary education, had significantly lower verbal intelligence, and significant lower factor of novelty seeking.

00:32:42.000 Huh.

00:32:43.000 Bummer.

00:32:44.000 We got to think, again, you're dealing with poverty, right? 1.00

00:32:49.000 You're dealing with third world, a lot of third world environments where they have high incidence of that shit. 0.99

00:32:55.000 But that is fucking fascinating that a bug figures out a way to get a rat horny and get him chasing a cat so it gets eaten because it wants to get in that cat's stomach. 1.00

00:33:07.000 That's wild, man. 0.98

00:33:08.000 The implication, this is really creepy, but it is, when I'm looking at people with COVID are afraid to get the vaccine, or people are like, you know, we have this fucking thing, it's probably a bioweapon, 0.87

00:33:23.000 man, and we got this thing, and people gathering together, you know, when it was soaring, just gathering together as sturges, you know? 0.60

00:33:33.000 You have to... 1.00

00:33:34.000 Like, I was thinking, like, fuck. 1.00

00:33:35.000 Did they not just engineer a bioweapon? 1.00

00:33:39.000 But did they figure out a way to make it so that part...

00:33:42.000 One of the things it does is it makes people want to get really social and, like, go against the thing that would slow it down?

00:33:50.000 You know, like, is this some kind of fucking insane new version of toxoplasmosis that makes people...

00:33:58.000 I don't know, just want to get it. 0.78

00:33:59.000 There's some people who just wanted to get it.

00:34:01.000 Just to get it over with.

00:34:02.000 Just to get it over with.

00:34:03.000 But that's like for a virus, Jesus Christ, that's the best thing that can happen to you, man.

00:34:07.000 Right.

00:34:07.000 Like with chickenpox.

00:34:08.000 But it's pressure.

00:34:08.000 That's just pressure.

00:34:12.000 Some people just can't handle the pressure of awaiting something over and over and over again.

00:34:16.000 The anxiety of when is it going to come.

00:34:18.000 Right.

00:34:18.000 Yeah.

00:34:19.000 I mean, look, I remember when we didn't even know what it was.

00:34:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:23.000 And that's when I'm like, well, it's probably going to just fucking kill me at some point. 0.99

00:34:28.000 I was having like, you know, when we didn't know. 0.92

00:34:30.000 When it's like, this could be a post-apocalyptic movie in three months.

00:34:33.000 Because this is a new thing.

00:34:36.000 So we're not positive everything that it does. 0.97

00:34:38.000 We don't know what the fuck it does. 0.98

00:34:41.000 Feet explode. 0.98

00:34:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:43.000 It could do...

00:34:43.000 Who knows?

00:34:44.000 All of a sudden, a few months in, people are having seizures.

00:34:48.000 And the toxoplasmosis stuff... 0.99

00:34:50.000 I mean, I'm in a fucking robe and I'm wearing a wig. 0.99

00:34:55.000 I'm obviously not. 0.99

00:34:56.000 But you're in good company.

00:34:57.000 Okay.

00:34:59.000 Clearly you're not listening to some kind of...

00:35:02.000 Yeah, don't listen to him.

00:35:04.000 He's got an Illuminati ring on. 0.99

00:35:05.000 This is not a fucking TED Talk here. 0.99

00:35:11.000 But I was thinking, you know, if like over zillions of years, toxoplasmosis can make rats get horny when they smell cat piss, couldn't someone whip some shit up in the laboratory that makes people just, 0.98

00:35:28.000 I don't know, like a certain kind of sneaker? 0.97

00:35:31.000 You know, could it...

00:35:32.000 Could a corporation whip up a virus?

00:35:36.000 Could you imagine if they did, but didn't have any other side effects?

00:35:39.000 You tell me they wouldn't do it?

00:35:40.000 Isn't that what advertising is?

00:35:42.000 They would do it.

00:35:42.000 Isn't that what advertising is?

00:35:44.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

00:35:45.000 Especially to dullards, right? 1.00

00:35:48.000 Someone who maybe have toxo, and they're more susceptible to ads? 0.99

00:35:53.000 Yeah.

00:35:53.000 Imagine that?

00:35:54.000 Imagine that's the way to get people to be more susceptible to ads?

00:35:57.000 Let more rats with toxo out in the streets?

00:36:01.000 Imagine if they're just spraying TOXO down into the sewer pipes in New York City, just trying to get it out there.

00:36:08.000 Let's go, let's go, let's go! 0.95

00:36:10.000 But you know, man, to get back to your idea of shit, it feels like there is something that we haven't quite figured out yet when it comes to gene expression and the way that it gets genes mutate and the way evolution happens. 0.93

00:36:22.000 Similarly, with language and with data, We aren't at the place yet where we acknowledge that data is as much of a drug or a virus as anything else. 0.95

00:36:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:36.000 Because you're eating it with your eyes doesn't make it any less like you're getting infected.

00:36:42.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:36:43.000 When you said that, holy fuck, that's what advertising is, I had to pause for a second. 0.99

00:36:48.000 It really is, right? 0.99

00:36:49.000 Yeah, especially if you...

00:36:51.000 It's a mind virus.

00:36:51.000 If data is alive, or is a form of life, or kind of like, you know, they say a virus is not quite alive, not quite dead.

00:37:00.000 It's somewhere in between.

00:37:02.000 So are information packets, you know?

00:37:06.000 And the effect that they have is so profound that, yeah, I wonder how laws would change if we start reframing what information is as more of a living thing.

00:37:21.000 It's more of a thing that lives in the mind and jumps from one person to the next, but it's actually kind of alive.

00:37:28.000 Kind of not, but it's sort of a living thing.

00:37:30.000 I think that of ideas all the time.

00:37:32.000 I think that ideas might be alien, like a different life form.

00:37:36.000 Here's the thought.

00:37:36.000 Everything you see, right?

00:37:38.000 Everything from buildings to fucking power lines, cars, everything that's man-made came out of the mind. 0.98

00:37:46.000 It came out of the human imagination. 0.98

00:37:48.000 And we just take it for granted that it's a thing.

00:37:51.000 Like, here's a table.

00:37:52.000 Here's a skyscraper.

00:37:54.000 Yeah, but where did that come from?

00:37:55.000 It came out of the mind.

00:37:57.000 Like, an idea came into the mind and tricked the monkey into building it.

00:38:01.000 And the monkey says, look me big, building, make, right here.

00:38:06.000 Look what I've done.

00:38:07.000 Ooh, monkey so strong.

00:38:10.000 Monkey so smart.

00:38:11.000 You know, we think that we're so awesome because we figured out how to make that Huawei phone that spies on your neighbors.

00:38:17.000 But what is that?

00:38:18.000 What is going on there?

00:38:19.000 Oh, the Communist Party is trying to take over.

00:38:22.000 Is it or is it the most successful vehicle for getting ideas through?

00:38:26.000 Is it the most successful vehicle for getting technology through?

00:38:31.000 Ideas that create things, which are the most important ideas to things.

00:38:36.000 Not to humans.

00:38:37.000 That's why we moan and we talk about materialism and how fucking shallow the world is because we recognize there's a disconnect between the things that are valuable to humans and the things that just make more things.

00:38:51.000 They're valuable because they allow more things to be created. 0.98

00:38:54.000 Well, then you go, well, what the fuck are these things? 0.97

00:38:56.000 What are these things and how'd they trick us into loving them so much? 0.99

00:38:59.000 They don't...

00:39:00.000 I'm talking about how I love watching phone videos. 0.99

00:39:03.000 They don't change my fucking life. 0.98

00:39:05.000 If I had an iPhone 6 and I just were good, let's stop right there, I probably wouldn't notice. 0.99

00:39:10.000 You'd probably send me a message, I say hi back, we're cool, call each other, hey, what's up?

00:39:15.000 You know, maybe my phone would look a little shittier for the FaceTime, but that's it.

00:39:18.000 Other than that, I wouldn't notice anything. 1.00

00:39:20.000 But we're all obsessed with these fucking things. 0.99

00:39:23.000 And these things have weaseled their way into our lives. 1.00

00:39:25.000 And then you get the commercials.

00:39:27.000 And the commercials show the things.

00:39:28.000 And it's usually a girl with long legs and pretty feet. 1.00

00:39:32.000 Dude, those Apple commercials lately. 1.00

00:39:34.000 I want to fuck the commercial. 1.00

00:39:36.000 You know what I'm talking about? 1.00

00:39:38.000 The new Apple commercials?

00:39:40.000 No, I haven't, but I can only imagine.

00:39:41.000 Someone who used to work at MKUltra got a job at Apple and was like, look, why don't you try this thing that we did during Project Stargate and we'll make this thing.

00:39:52.000 And then suddenly you get this Apple commercial.

00:39:54.000 It's just some woman. 1.00

00:39:57.000 And it's like beautiful, beautiful computers that I don't need at all.

00:40:02.000 My wife and I watch it and we're like, we gotta get one.

00:40:07.000 And it's like, but why?

00:40:08.000 I've got a computer.

00:40:10.000 You have a computer?

00:40:11.000 But the commercial is so potent.

00:40:13.000 You're like, yeah, I want a blue, a blue Mac.

00:40:17.000 Ah, blue.

00:40:18.000 Yeah.

00:40:19.000 Yeah.

00:40:20.000 New colors.

00:40:21.000 Yeah.

00:40:22.000 I want a red phone.

00:40:23.000 But it's, but to me, what's really cool.

00:40:26.000 Cool, and what may, hopefully isn't, but the future might be looked at as Wild West, is that, I mean, you look at Apple, right?

00:40:34.000 This is two multiverses away from this one.

00:40:38.000 This is a tower of wizards.

00:40:42.000 You know what I mean?

00:40:43.000 That's what it is, right?

00:40:45.000 And like every once in a while, like today was their big keynote thing, but every once in a while the wizards show, behold the new spirits we've summoned, and then, you know, shows it to the villagers and we're all like, oh my god,

00:41:01.000 look at that glowing cube of Anaxanax!

00:41:05.000 You know what I mean?

00:41:05.000 It's like, the cube of Anaxanax will now teleport six feet farther.

00:41:11.000 But, yeah, two multiverses away.

00:41:14.000 That's what it is.

00:41:15.000 But, you know, knowing that these are wizards, and then realizing these commercials, they're casting spells on us.

00:41:22.000 Oh! 0.60

00:41:23.000 Two multiverses away.

00:41:24.000 We just don't think of it as a spell.

00:41:26.000 It's a spell!

00:41:27.000 What is that image?

00:41:28.000 Why are you showing me that?

00:41:28.000 It's the apple.com.

00:41:29.000 As it starts, it's what he's describing.

00:41:32.000 All these little emojis are looking at this.

00:41:35.000 This is a spell of hypnosis 17. They're going to get you to accept those as your avatars and you're going to be more comfortable with them than your real skin.

00:41:43.000 Then they're going to give you the option three or four phones from now to actually become that avatar permanently.

00:41:48.000 And your old skin, you can always go back to your old skin temporarily, but only as long as you have battery life. 0.97

00:41:55.000 Because in real life, you have to make the swap.

00:41:57.000 You have to decide.

00:41:59.000 And in real life, it's just much more efficient for our systems if you just accept the avatar all the time.

00:42:04.000 And you can upgrade your avatar.

00:42:06.000 It's not that expensive.

00:42:07.000 Sure.

00:42:08.000 I mean, you just described one of the stories of how humans incarnate in this dimension as you pick your incarnation.

00:42:17.000 Maybe that is part of why we're so obsessed with gender and race.

00:42:22.000 Maybe we're going to get to a point, maybe the universe is priming us, and we're going to get to a point very soon where you can really swap out your gender and race. 0.95

00:42:32.000 You really can change what you are because you're just electricity going through your fucking brain connected to some machine by some weird interface and now they figured that interface out and you will live the life of whoever you want. 0.98

00:42:48.000 Whether you want to be tall or short, whether you're a person who decides you want to experience life in poverty, whether you want to experience life as a genius, whether you want to be a girl or a boy, gay or straight, black or white, Asian, whatever the fuck you want, you can do it all. 0.99

00:43:03.000 Anytime you want, you can go back and forth. 0.95

00:43:06.000 Yeah.

00:43:06.000 Bro, that's coming.

00:43:08.000 Well, that's, you know, like, I opened up The Singularity is Near recently just to look, you know, look through.

00:43:16.000 It's a great book.

00:43:18.000 Kurzweil's got this definition of humans in there that's so beautiful, and I'm gonna butcher it, but it's essentially like, you know, he's got a lot of definitions of humans.

00:43:26.000 Some of them are really amazing, like...

00:43:29.000 Something like self-replicating, nano-replicator or something.

00:43:34.000 But, like, the other description is humans are things that...

00:43:39.000 Because in there, people ask, like, okay, if we learn to use nanobots to decode us and, like...

00:43:50.000 You know, not just transform our bodies, but, you know, merge humans with other humans.

00:43:55.000 You know, theoretically, entire collectives of people could merge together as superorganisms with one personality.

00:44:01.000 But what are we going to be after that?

00:44:03.000 And he says, what humans are are creatures that like to push past all boundaries. 0.98

00:44:08.000 And so the market pressure that is going into, like, people spending all the money they spend to build these insane fucking phones... 0.97

00:44:18.000 That is the thing that's pushing us towards that point. 0.98

00:44:22.000 And that there's no choice.

00:44:23.000 That's the other thing. 0.58

00:44:24.000 I didn't realize this until I was reading it recently, because somehow when I was reading the Singularity shit before, I used to imagine, oh, we have a choice in this. 0.74

00:44:32.000 Like, humans as a whole just put the brakes on and be like, you know what? 0.72

00:44:36.000 Let's slow down on the Singularity project thing.

00:44:39.000 I don't think we're going to do it.

00:44:40.000 There's no choice.

00:44:41.000 Like, we're part of a river that's going over a waterfall.

00:44:45.000 And no particle of water gets to say, hold on, everybody!

00:44:51.000 Let's not go over the waterfall!

00:44:52.000 What do you say we just hang out, turn into a lake or something?

00:44:56.000 It's like, no, there's no way out of it.

00:44:59.000 It's happening. 0.57

00:45:00.000 And all this stuff that's causing all this fucking turmoil in society is related to humans coming to this weird point of freedom where we might not have to be what we were born as in any way. 0.93

00:45:16.000 In any way. 0.96

00:45:17.000 In any way.

00:45:18.000 And that, for whatever reason, is very upsetting to some people.

00:45:22.000 Some people don't like it.

00:45:24.000 They're like, you gotta be what you were born as.

00:45:26.000 All things.

00:45:28.000 All things.

00:45:28.000 You know, if tomorrow a technology emerges where you could change your...

00:45:36.000 Some people would be mad at you for doing that.

00:45:39.000 Yeah, it would be a huge controversy, man.

00:45:42.000 And similarly with gender, but not just with gender.

00:45:45.000 Imagine if tomorrow anyone who wants to could turn into the most in-shape person ever.

00:45:51.000 So now when you see somebody who's in shape, you're like, wow, they've got a lot of discipline.

00:45:56.000 But that all goes away.

00:45:58.000 There's no more, you know what I mean?

00:45:59.000 There's no currency anymore.

00:46:00.000 And like, oh wow, you're a master pianist?

00:46:04.000 Oh, that's amazing.

00:46:06.000 So what app did you use?

00:46:08.000 Right, you learned it easy.

00:46:09.000 Oh, you're such a...

00:46:10.000 Instantaneously.

00:46:11.000 You've become so...

00:46:12.000 Cheers, my brothers.

00:46:13.000 You've become so much funnier ever since you did that upgrade.

00:46:17.000 Right.

00:46:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:19.000 But isn't this ego...

00:46:21.000 Right?

00:46:21.000 Like isn't this what we're thinking about just ego that like people have gone through this intense laborious process to become the greatest tennis player of all time?

00:46:31.000 But if you could just get there through technology, isn't it?

00:46:34.000 It's I mean I get that there's like all these signals of discipline and all these signals of being something special But it seems like that's just because it's hard to do, right?

00:46:45.000 There's a thing that's going on here where it's like we're praising things that are hard to do because it's an ethic, right?

00:46:51.000 It's like burned into our system.

00:46:53.000 And we think it's definitely positive.

00:46:54.000 The things that are hard to do make you a better person.

00:46:57.000 But we're basing that on the idea that that's the only way to make you a better person.

00:47:02.000 Like, that just taking these downloads and all of a sudden learning how to play concert piano or learning how to do kung fu or learning how to do calculus, like, instantaneously adds to your database.

00:47:14.000 Maybe you just become the same version or even maybe a better version of a better person because you're not constantly bitter about struggle.

00:47:21.000 Because one of the things that sucks about really famous people or really successful people or really exceptionally accomplished people is they want you to know.

00:47:30.000 When they want you to know, and I think we've all been guilty of it, and I know I've been guilty of it for sure, where I was happy about certain success and I bragged about it.

00:47:42.000 And in retrospect, it's probably gross, but in the moment I was being celebratory.

00:47:48.000 Yeah.

00:47:50.000 That is a thing where when people are trying to do something and it's difficult to do, when someone does something like that, we admire them because they made it through.

00:47:59.000 But ultimately, the benefit's supposed to be that it makes them somehow or another a better version of what they were.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 With everything they do, whether they climb Mount Everest or write a novel.

00:48:07.000 Hard things make you a more interesting person. 0.85

00:48:10.000 Everybody that I know has gone through some interesting shit, and it's one of the things that I love most about comics. 0.87

00:48:15.000 Because I know the emotional rollercoaster ride that it takes to become a competent comedian. 0.99

00:48:20.000 Where you're working professional, it's fucking crazy. 0.98

00:48:23.000 And then to do what we do, what you and I do, which is even weirder, where you're just thinking out loud in front of the world, which is fucking bananas. 1.00

00:48:31.000 A ridiculous thing to do. 0.99

00:48:32.000 And while you're doing it, most of the time you're high or drunk. 0.97

00:48:35.000 Or a lot of the time at least.

00:48:39.000 All these things, they're interesting and we celebrate them because we know they're hard to achieve.

00:48:45.000 But why do they have to be?

00:48:46.000 Why can't people just become a better person with a download? 0.77

00:48:48.000 Do we want someone to fucking have to run marathons for 10 years to be a better person?

00:48:52.000 Maybe there's a download. 0.99

00:48:54.000 Beep!

00:48:54.000 And all of a sudden you're like a guy who runs marathons every day for 10 years.

00:48:58.000 You're like a stoic You're a person who just appreciates things for what they are. 0.99

00:49:03.000 You don't come with any bullshit. 0.98

00:49:04.000 You're not emotionally over-needy. 1.00

00:49:06.000 You don't require additional attention.

00:49:09.000 There's all these things that people are allowed to do where they require additional attention that they don't really deserve.

00:49:15.000 Well, it's the same thing on the flip side.

00:49:16.000 The people that get attention for things that they have accomplished, they want it, and that's why they're doing it, that's not good.

00:49:24.000 And it's also not good that people want attention for things they don't deserve attention for.

00:49:28.000 Why do you want to be celebrated?

00:49:30.000 You've got work to do. 0.96

00:49:31.000 You're lazy. 0.84

00:49:32.000 You eat too much. 0.95

00:49:33.000 What are you doing?

00:49:35.000 Stop saying it's the world's fault.

00:49:37.000 It's not the world's fault.

00:49:38.000 Get up!

00:49:40.000 Stop farting on yourself and go outside.

00:49:43.000 Go! 0.95

00:49:44.000 Just go outside! 0.96

00:49:45.000 You can fart on yourself.

00:49:46.000 Go outside! 0.99

00:49:49.000 But that, there's, if you just get all that with a download, why do you have to fucking, you know what I'm saying? 0.97

00:49:54.000 Like, for sure you got a download. 0.90

00:49:56.000 We all got downloads, right?

00:49:58.000 I got a fairly lucky download where there wasn't a lot of trauma.

00:50:02.000 It wasn't anything unsurmountable.

00:50:04.000 Some people get downloads that are horrendous.

00:50:06.000 And they have to work their way through childhood sexual abuse, right?

00:50:09.000 They could have been molested by the time they were babies, right?

00:50:11.000 That's a real thing across the world.

00:50:14.000 So imagine that download.

00:50:16.000 Well, okay.

00:50:17.000 Right.

00:50:18.000 Imagine if you can just come along and fix that.

00:50:20.000 Oh, we're going to take that and just fix that issue and then give you a guy who climbed all the mountains. 0.93

00:50:27.000 Download.

00:50:28.000 And then you're going to learn Kung Fu, like Neo and the Matrix.

00:50:32.000 Give you that download.

00:50:33.000 Sure.

00:50:33.000 Calculus, that download.

00:50:35.000 Why wouldn't you do that?

00:50:36.000 You want to work hard? 0.99

00:50:37.000 Well, I want to earn it on my own fucking back. 0.98

00:50:40.000 But that would be, so that would be one of the big controversies, which is like, okay, so we've got one league of baseball players that achieved their ability to play baseball through a combination of skill and talent and practice, 0.97

00:50:58.000 and then we have this other league.

00:51:01.000 They're all 14. But they didn't download.

00:51:05.000 So that now they're like 50 times better than any living baseball player. 0.98

00:51:11.000 Watching them is like watching some kind of like psychedelic geometry because they're so fucking good and the balls move so fast. 0.97

00:51:21.000 It's like the most insane thing you've ever seen. 0.99

00:51:22.000 But do you want to watch that?

00:51:24.000 Yes!

00:51:24.000 Or do you want to watch...

00:51:25.000 No, that's what I'm saying.

00:51:26.000 You're not going to watch an old baseball game. 1.00

00:51:28.000 Oh yeah, let's go watch the fucking Dodgers. 0.99

00:51:31.000 You know, they haven't had any downloads. 0.99

00:51:34.000 It's just old classic baseball when the balls moved less than 600 miles per hour.

00:51:41.000 When the balls didn't break the sound barrier. 0.99

00:51:46.000 No shit, right? 0.99

00:51:48.000 But that's the problem, is because you're going to have a group of people that rejects becoming whatever this thing is, and those people, they're gonna say things like, we're being ostracized, 0.98

00:52:04.000 we're being pushed to the side, and it's like, well, kind of, but also what's happening is, You don't want to adapt, and the history of evolution is adaptation, for better or for worse.

00:52:17.000 It might be better to be a primordial person who hasn't done gene therapy, who hasn't transformed their genetics, which is coming. 0.97

00:52:28.000 The new vaccines are part of that, but the thing that's coming, because that shit sped stuff up. 0.97

00:52:37.000 What's coming is going to be... 0.98

00:52:40.000 Again and again, you're going to get this opportunity where it's like, do you want to get rid of your diabetes, maybe?

00:52:46.000 Okay, we're going to give you this thing that's going to reprogram your DNA so that your insulin is working, so everything's working.

00:52:53.000 Your pancreas is working.

00:52:55.000 And some people...

00:52:58.000 Who have diabetes are going to be like, no, I think I want to stay like this.

00:53:02.000 I don't want to alter my DNA. And other people are going to be like, yes, do it now.

00:53:08.000 Fucking inject it in me. 0.99

00:53:09.000 I don't want to have to go through a life like this anymore. 1.00

00:53:12.000 I want to see what it's like.

00:53:13.000 And not just that aging.

00:53:15.000 And not just that...

00:53:16.000 Cancer which I'm quite excited about because I had it and you know having had it it's like you it's it's it's any any Advancement in that realm is like exciting because it took my mom too and obviously for not just my own selfish ass But everybody out there is contending with it,

00:53:32.000 but like you're this is going to be Every you know few years there's gonna be a thing where it's like yeah, you don't want it Okay, you don't have to get it But the more you don't get it and then when it gets to intelligence man When it gets to just like, you know, or what if you want to give your workers genetic therapy that makes them faster,

00:53:53.000 you know, or smarter or whatever, you know what I mean?

00:53:56.000 Move quicker.

00:53:57.000 Yeah!

00:53:58.000 Suddenly what happens is the species isn't, they say this happens in species where they split.

00:54:04.000 Well, especially when you have a thing like CRISPR. You have the breakthrough technology where you can actually start manipulating genes.

00:54:13.000 That was a thought before.

00:54:15.000 Now it's a real practice.

00:54:16.000 And they've actually done it on human fetuses in China, right?

00:54:20.000 It's coming, man.

00:54:21.000 And didn't they have an unintended positive consequence?

00:54:26.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:54:27.000 I think they got smarter.

00:54:29.000 Yeah.

00:54:30.000 Like, whoops!

00:54:31.000 Yeah, it was John Cena apologizing.

00:54:33.000 So sorry.

00:54:34.000 Everybody got smarter.

00:54:36.000 Love the Chinese people.

00:54:37.000 So sorry.

00:54:38.000 This guy got smarter.

00:54:40.000 It was an accident.

00:54:40.000 We were just trying to protect him from HIV. That's what it was, right?

00:54:43.000 Wasn't it?

00:54:44.000 I think they were trying to give them protection from HIV. Can you Google that, Jamie?

00:54:48.000 I'm going to be butchering this.

00:54:49.000 I think the guy who did that got in trouble, too, right?

00:54:51.000 I think he got arrested.

00:54:52.000 Yeah, he got in trouble.

00:54:54.000 Come on, man.

00:54:55.000 They told him to do that.

00:54:58.000 I was trying to decode the wink-wink trouble.

00:55:04.000 What was the question?

00:55:05.000 How to phrase that question?

00:55:06.000 I think the question is like, yeah, something about AIDS, genetic therapy, China, IQ increase.

00:55:17.000 I think it was twins, twin fetuses.

00:55:21.000 And they tried to give them protection.

00:55:23.000 The sound of being stoned online.

00:55:25.000 We are now, this is literally the sound.

00:55:28.000 You know when you're online and you're trying to remember what you're Googling?

00:55:33.000 Well, this is part of the problem with my podcast, man.

00:55:35.000 It's like people, for some reason or another, think I should stop doing it this way.

00:55:39.000 Gene edits to CRISPR babies might have shortened their life expectancy.

00:55:43.000 That's not great.

00:55:44.000 Oops.

00:55:45.000 Study of almost half a million people links mutation that protects against HIV infection to an earlier death.

00:55:50.000 Okay.

00:55:51.000 Well, that is a weird link.

00:55:54.000 I don't necessarily understand how they could just make that leap.

00:55:59.000 Put that back up.

00:56:00.000 It doesn't necessarily mean that that's what caused their earlier death. 0.99

00:56:06.000 It could have mean they just fucked themselves into oblivion and ran out of jizz. 0.99

00:56:10.000 That's possible, too. 1.00

00:56:12.000 No shot of getting HIV ever.

00:56:15.000 You know?

00:56:16.000 How many people would just go ham?

00:56:19.000 You know?

00:56:20.000 Scientists who edited the genomes of twin girls and attempt to make them resistant to HIV may have inadvertently shortened their lives.

00:56:28.000 But I think there's another thing that they were saying.

00:56:31.000 They think it impaired some sort of a cognitive benefit.

00:56:34.000 He probably... 0.99

00:56:35.000 That's just what you say after you find out you fucked up some babies. 1.00

00:56:38.000 You're like, but they're smarter! 0.99

00:56:40.000 Right.

00:56:42.000 Trust me!

00:56:43.000 I gotta go!

00:56:44.000 Wait a few years, they're gonna- Listen, and in 10 years, they're gonna come up with a cure for their life expectancy being shorter.

00:56:50.000 Exactly.

00:56:50.000 Relax.

00:56:51.000 Exactly.

00:56:52.000 You're welcome.

00:56:53.000 You know the problem to me, man, is like, why do they have to call it CRISPR? It's like CRISPR babies.

00:56:59.000 It sounds like a KFC fucking snack. 1.00

00:57:02.000 It sounds like bacon. 1.00

00:57:03.000 It's a bacon sandwich.

00:57:05.000 Oh, I love CRISPR babies in the morning!

00:57:07.000 That's a terrible name.

00:57:09.000 That would have been a good name for like a bacon store.

00:57:11.000 Not like the future of humanity.

00:57:14.000 We owe it all to CRISPR. Yeah, but you know, I think that we're just witnessing humanity reckoning with what's coming, the technology.

00:57:28.000 Because here's the other thing.

00:57:30.000 If you look at what they're saying about not just the Wuhan laboratory, but like, did I just say laboratory?

00:57:38.000 It's Wuhan laboratory.

00:57:41.000 Why did I say that?

00:57:42.000 You're drinking.

00:57:43.000 Oh, thank you.

00:57:44.000 I almost forgot.

00:57:48.000 But yeah, if you look at, so the big controversy right now is virology gain-of-function research, which is taking some fucking virus, altering a little bit, and sometimes you need to do that to study it, right?

00:58:03.000 I was looking it up. 0.62

00:58:05.000 There's these mice pox, I think, in Australia.

00:58:10.000 Because basically, you want to take this virus, whatever it may be, that might pose a threat to humanity, like what happened in Galveston.

00:58:17.000 That's what they were looking at.

00:58:18.000 The idea being, okay, here- Well, we went to a place in Galveston where they studied these things.

00:58:24.000 We said, what happened in Galveston?

00:58:25.000 There was an outbreak that people don't know about. 0.99

00:58:28.000 Oh, the Galveston fucking outbreak. 0.98

00:58:30.000 They might have been like, what happened in Galveston? 1.00

00:58:32.000 They're like, fuck, what happened in Galveston? 0.99

00:58:34.000 Who's Dr. talking about? 1.00

00:58:34.000 Let's Google it. 1.00

00:58:35.000 No, we just went to this creepy place.

00:58:39.000 Creepy only because there's tiny little microscopic demons all around you.

00:58:44.000 And I should say that we got so high at the airport that we missed our flight.

00:58:48.000 They left.

00:58:49.000 They took off.

00:58:49.000 They were already gone.

00:58:50.000 We were like, where's this flight?

00:58:52.000 We were so baked.

00:58:53.000 We were sitting there talking for so long.

00:58:55.000 And then we had to take a flight late that night.

00:58:57.000 And we flew all through the night and then landed in the morning and then had an hour to sleep, I think.

00:59:03.000 Then the next day, you're in, like, one of the most secure bio-laboratories.

00:59:08.000 What did you put up, Jamie?

00:59:10.000 Mousepox.

00:59:11.000 Oh, wow.

00:59:11.000 Mousepox.

00:59:12.000 But, like, so...

00:59:13.000 Okay, so the idea is you have...

00:59:16.000 Essentially, like, you're planning a virus...

00:59:21.000 Two multiverses over where Apple's a wizard tower, a virus is a demon. 0.77

00:59:25.000 And so if you're one of the royal demon defenders, you've got to study what are the most possible 15 demons that might break out of hell.

00:59:38.000 And rampage through Earth, right?

00:59:40.000 And so in this dimension, that's like the coronaviruses, but not just the coronaviruses, Ebola, not just Ebola, like all the possible things we might have to worry about, the avian bird flu, right?

00:59:53.000 If you're like in one of these labs, you need to study it, but you gotta study it in a living thing that is easier to study than whatever it came from.

01:00:02.000 Gain of function, make it so that it infects mice, right?

01:00:05.000 Now you can put it in mice and start studying the way it works in living organisms, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

01:00:11.000 So that's gain of function research, right?

01:00:13.000 So like virologists, so now there's like a moratorium on it, at least I hope there is very strict, but virologists are kind of like, look, We have to do gain of function if we're going to study the shit that's coming because we want to try to at least begin the process of making a vaccine, 0.59

01:00:32.000 understanding how it's going to affect civilization so that if it does come, if the demon comes out of hell, we know the spell is to cast.

01:00:39.000 That's the reason we got the COVID vaccines.

01:00:42.000 Everyone's like...

01:00:42.000 They started working on it six months ago.

01:00:45.000 It's like, no, they didn't.

01:00:46.000 They've been working on versions of it for a while because of this very thing.

01:00:50.000 But anyway, the problem is, the problem with gain-of-function, the double-edged sword is, You're making the thing.

01:00:59.000 It's like instead of waiting for the demon to explode from hell, you summon it in a sealed chamber of Lornax.

01:01:06.000 Like where they put the Hulk in that clear box?

01:01:08.000 Yes, exactly.

01:01:10.000 Pull that video, pull that, excuse me, that text up, brother.

01:01:13.000 Because this text is insane about micepox. 0.99

01:01:15.000 I'm going to read this to you folks because it's such a fucking... 0.99

01:01:18.000 Listen to this. 0.99

01:01:19.000 A virus that kills every one of its victims by wiping out part of their immune system has been accidentally created by an Australian research team. 0.98

01:01:27.000 Yep.

01:01:28.000 Just imagine that.

01:01:29.000 A virus that kills every one of its victims was accidentally...

01:01:33.000 Whoops!

01:01:33.000 We were trying to make syrup and we wanted to put it on our pancakes, but we accidentally made a virus that kills everybody.

01:01:41.000 What does that mean?

01:01:42.000 Wait a minute.

01:01:43.000 It's not an accident if that's what you're working on.

01:01:45.000 Is that what they're working on? 0.82

01:01:46.000 But the reason they're working on it is because you would rather understand it in a laboratory than all of a sudden mousepox naturally mutates And suddenly, shit tons of people are just dying, and we have no idea how to deal with it. 0.95

01:02:03.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:02:04.000 That's the argument for gain-of-function research.

01:02:07.000 Oh, I get it.

01:02:07.000 Okay, okay.

01:02:08.000 No, no, no, I get the argument for it.

01:02:10.000 I mean, it's really interesting, right?

01:02:12.000 It's like, how do you understand how a virus mutates other than making it mutate yourself, and you do it in this really safe, contained environment.

01:02:20.000 But life finds a way, doesn't it?

01:02:22.000 Well, that place wasn't safe.

01:02:23.000 That place had been cited for safety violations in 2018. I didn't know that.

01:02:28.000 Find that, please. 0.96

01:02:30.000 This mousepox is scaring the shit out of me, Australia. 0.97

01:02:32.000 What are you doing, Australia? 0.97

01:02:34.000 Wait, I thought it meant it only killed 100% of mice.

01:02:37.000 It means humans?

01:02:38.000 It does kill 100% of mice because it hasn't jumped to humans.

01:02:41.000 But if it did make the leap to humans with the same efficacy...

01:02:45.000 Jesus Christ.

01:02:46.000 That's not good.

01:02:47.000 That's 100% death.

01:02:49.000 That's the thing, man. 0.99

01:02:50.000 It's like if you go back throughout humanity, we hit a bunch of fucking pit stops. 0.98

01:02:55.000 Where things went real bad, and we had to restart the whole race. 0.96

01:02:59.000 And I think at times, human beings got down to, because of natural disasters, just a few thousand people.

01:03:05.000 And for sure, because of plagues, the human race probably got dropped down to multiple times, like half of what it used to be, or a third of what it used to be.

01:03:16.000 That happened a bunch of times.

01:03:18.000 A bunch of times.

01:03:18.000 So the human race itself, we got real close once.

01:03:23.000 I think in Indonesia there was a super volcano that blew off like 60,000 years ago.

01:03:29.000 We've talked about this so many times, I really wish I could pull this off at the top of my head.

01:03:34.000 2018 diplomats warned of risky coronavirus experiments in a Wuhan lab.

01:03:38.000 No one listened.

01:03:39.000 Yeah.

01:03:40.000 Okay, so 2018. People were like, hey, what the fuck? 0.99

01:03:45.000 It'd make a good 80s comedy. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Like a bunch of stoners working at a viral laboratory.

01:03:50.000 What was I just talking about just before that?

01:03:55.000 You said you've talked about it many times. 1.00

01:03:57.000 Oh, the fucking super volcano, man. 0.99

01:03:59.000 I think it was in Indonesia, right? 1.00

01:04:02.000 I think Toba.

01:04:03.000 Toba.

01:04:04.000 And it killed everybody except for, I think it was down to 7,000 people.

01:04:10.000 So the whole earth, think about the 7 billion people, they were down to 7,000.

01:04:17.000 What horrors did those people see?

01:04:20.000 The people that made it, how many people did they eat?

01:04:25.000 A lot.

01:04:26.000 How many of their friends did they see die?

01:04:28.000 I mean, what did they do?

01:04:30.000 There's 7,000 people.

01:04:32.000 You go from a million people to 7,000.

01:04:35.000 The sky becomes black with soot as this volcano bursts fire into the sky and it drowns out all the sun, kills all the plants, you have no food, animals starve to death.

01:04:49.000 Yeah.

01:04:49.000 They might have just eaten each other.

01:04:51.000 I mean, who the fuck knows? 0.99

01:04:52.000 Well, yeah. 0.99

01:04:53.000 Right now, anthropologists are going crazy.

01:04:55.000 You don't understand history!

01:05:00.000 You're right.

01:05:01.000 They're right. 0.92

01:05:04.000 It would be nice if when you're watching Fox News or whatever the left or the right fucking propaganda mechanism is, Every once in a while they would just admit, they're like, we don't know what we're talking about, y'all! 0.94

01:05:20.000 We're performing. 0.91

01:05:21.000 But you know what I mean?

01:05:23.000 I think that would be nice if every once in a while they broke the fourth wall.

01:05:29.000 They can't.

01:05:30.000 They don't have any freedom.

01:05:31.000 That's part of the problem with that whole format.

01:05:34.000 The difference between what you do and what they do, it's on the opposite side of the matrix.

01:05:41.000 People would believe them more, though.

01:05:43.000 Doesn't matter.

01:05:44.000 Then it would be a corporate decision to do that, and it wouldn't work.

01:05:47.000 North America settled by just 70 people, study concludes.

01:05:51.000 What? 1.00

01:05:51.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:05:53.000 Give me a break. 1.00

01:05:54.000 How is that possible? 1.00

01:05:56.000 Holy fucking shit. 1.00

01:05:57.000 70 people? 1.00

01:05:59.000 Scroll up, bro. 1.00

01:06:00.000 Let me read some of this shit. 1.00

01:06:02.000 This is nuts. 0.99

01:06:05.000 I was looking at the genetic bottleneck theory stuff, because that's what that Toba catastrophe talks about. 0.69

01:06:11.000 Oh, is that what they think?

01:06:12.000 That's what the...

01:06:13.000 One of the things that could have created it.

01:06:15.000 It was a core sample thing, too, though, right?

01:06:16.000 Yeah, there were other animals that have gotten down there, too, so I was just like, I stumbled across this.

01:06:21.000 A new study of DNA suggests North America was originally populated by just a few dozen people who crossed a land bridge from Asia during the last Ice Age.

01:06:30.000 About 14,000 years ago, humans crossed the Bering Land Bridge from Siberia to North America.

01:06:35.000 Most experts agree.

01:06:37.000 You know, I got called racist because I believe that. 0.93

01:06:39.000 What?

01:06:40.000 Yeah, somebody pointed me to something.

01:06:43.000 Somebody sent me a thing saying, why is this racist?

01:06:46.000 People think that some folks, like colonists, believe that people came here across the Bering Land Bridge and populated North America, where some folks think there was Native people just here, period.

01:06:59.000 Like there was Native people everywhere. 1.00

01:07:01.000 And I gotta admit, I never even thought about it until somebody said that, because if there were Native people in South America, For sure.

01:07:09.000 Do we believe that all the Native people in North America and South America walked down from Siberia?

01:07:16.000 Is that what we believe?

01:07:17.000 They don't really know, right?

01:07:18.000 Sounds crazy.

01:07:19.000 It sounds crazy, but it's just guessing.

01:07:21.000 At this point, maybe that's right.

01:07:24.000 Who knows?

01:07:25.000 Or maybe there's people already here.

01:07:27.000 Maybe we don't know.

01:07:28.000 Maybe they hopped on rafts.

01:07:31.000 I like the Graham Hancock version of it way better.

01:07:34.000 It's like we're older and older and older.

01:07:36.000 I think so.

01:07:37.000 So yeah, did like a group of people cross an ice bridge at some point to...

01:07:41.000 End up in a place that had recently experienced a meteor or a comet, like, impact on the planet?

01:07:49.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:07:50.000 Just imagine this shit. 1.00

01:07:51.000 70 people. 1.00

01:07:52.000 70 people.

01:07:53.000 Coming across from Siberia.

01:07:54.000 Well, by the way, during that time, 14,000 years ago, you know it was alive on that Bering land bridge that they think kept people from crossing over sooner?

01:08:03.000 No.

01:08:04.000 The short-faced bear.

01:08:06.000 A short-faced bear makes a grizzly bear look like a koala bear.

01:08:10.000 So you had to fight bears.

01:08:11.000 You couldn't fight bears.

01:08:13.000 You could not fight a short-faced bear.

01:08:14.000 A short-faced bear is so big, it's a demon in a movie.

01:08:19.000 Look at that.

01:08:21.000 The biggest of all the bear species.

01:08:23.000 Wasn't that tough.

01:08:30.000 Well, Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock believe that that short-faced bear was a victim of the Younger Dryas impact theory.

01:08:37.000 Yeah.

01:08:38.000 They believe that the asteroids slammed into the planet, and there's real proof of that in terms of when they do core samples, according to these guys, in that range of when the Ice Age ends.

01:08:51.000 There's all this nuclear glass that indicates there was some sort of impacts all over the place, all throughout Asia and Europe. 0.99

01:08:57.000 I love that shit. 1.00

01:08:58.000 Some wild theory, man. 1.00

01:08:59.000 It's such a crazy theory when you think about that. 1.00

01:09:01.000 But that fucking bear died off. 1.00

01:09:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:04.000 And people made it because we're ingenuity.

01:09:07.000 We are ingenuity.

01:09:08.000 We are ingenuity.

01:09:09.000 We're Toyota.

01:09:11.000 We're number one.

01:09:12.000 We're number one.

01:09:12.000 But we figured out how to survive and they didn't have enough food.

01:09:16.000 They're so fucking big. 0.96

01:09:17.000 They need so much food. 0.99

01:09:18.000 Dude, so, okay.

01:09:21.000 Okay.

01:09:22.000 Extinction hypotheses.

01:09:24.000 Okay.

01:09:24.000 We always talk about it.

01:09:27.000 But we haven't talked about it with wigs on before.

01:09:32.000 You're right!

01:09:33.000 We can repeat our conversations!

01:09:36.000 I love it!

01:09:36.000 Can I just say something before you do it?

01:09:38.000 Yeah.

01:09:38.000 I'm better with you.

01:09:40.000 I'm my best podcaster with you.

01:09:42.000 Same!

01:09:43.000 We know each other so well.

01:09:45.000 We used to be roommates.

01:09:46.000 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 You know?

01:09:49.000 Definitely.

01:09:50.000 How many months?

01:09:50.000 How long was I living at your house?

01:09:53.000 I don't know.

01:09:54.000 Six?

01:09:55.000 Was it like six?

01:09:55.000 It was close to that.

01:09:57.000 It was so much fun.

01:09:59.000 I'd love to have you at my house.

01:10:00.000 I thought it was amazing.

01:10:01.000 That was a blast.

01:10:03.000 I've got to tell you, man. 0.99

01:10:05.000 To emerge out of this fucking pandemic, having been with my wife who was pregnant for a lot of it. 0.99

01:10:13.000 Which is really scary. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Oh yeah.

01:10:15.000 But we made a decision.

01:10:17.000 We were like, look, we're not gonna let fear Determine our lives.

01:10:23.000 Are you guys taking vitamins?

01:10:24.000 Are you doing the whole vitamin thing?

01:10:25.000 She eats more vitamins than I've ever seen anyone eat.

01:10:31.000 Because she breastfeeds. 1.00

01:10:33.000 And I've tasted her milk.

01:10:34.000 It's sweet.

01:10:35.000 Whatever she's doing is...

01:10:37.000 Right, because she makes very sweet... 1.00

01:10:39.000 You know, I know why the baby's smiling, because it's like ice cream, basically.

01:10:44.000 But anyway...

01:10:45.000 I forced my wife to keep making breast milk for three years after the baby was born, just so I could have some for myself. 1.00

01:10:51.000 No, you did not.

01:10:52.000 No, of course I didn't.

01:10:53.000 Why did you...

01:10:54.000 Joe, why did you let it go?

01:10:57.000 You should have been like, yes!

01:10:59.000 I got scared.

01:11:00.000 I got scared that she was going to listen.

01:11:02.000 That's a Twitter trend.

01:11:04.000 Joe Rogan forced wife to make... 1.00

01:11:07.000 He had a milking area in the house.

01:11:10.000 Bro, you've been to my house. 0.99

01:11:11.000 I can't even fucking decorate. 0.98

01:11:12.000 I'm not allowed to decorate. 0.98

01:11:14.000 I mean, this is the thing.

01:11:16.000 This is a recurring problem we have, which is that my wife will ask me, do you like this?

01:11:23.000 And then all of a sudden I have weird, intense, aesthetic opinions that I've never had before.

01:11:30.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:31.000 That's so true!

01:11:32.000 She'll show me a couch.

01:11:33.000 I don't think about a couch.

01:11:34.000 I'm like, no, I don't think that's going to work in that room.

01:11:37.000 And she's like, you don't like anything I show you.

01:11:40.000 And then I think about it.

01:11:41.000 It's like, I'm basing this on nothing other than like a dim, like a light feeling of not liking it.

01:11:49.000 And you're ready to argue to the death.

01:11:52.000 Which is like where you're at is the enlightened place to be, which is like surrender to it.

01:11:56.000 What are you going to do?

01:11:57.000 Well, here's the reality of it.

01:11:59.000 First of all, A, I really don't care.

01:12:01.000 If it looks nice, I don't care.

01:12:02.000 I'm happy.

01:12:03.000 I just want to sit down.

01:12:04.000 I'm not that interested.

01:12:06.000 I'm really not that interested.

01:12:07.000 But I also don't like when one person just makes all the decisions.

01:12:12.000 Like, um, hey!

01:12:13.000 But I also know, realistically, if I was the one to make the decisions, it would be a mess.

01:12:20.000 Yeah.

01:12:20.000 It'll be a hodgepodge of imagery.

01:12:22.000 And here's one thing that me and my wife don't get along, or don't agree with, rather.

01:12:27.000 I'm into, I am not just into, I have this weird obsession with ancient Asian art.

01:12:34.000 Weird obsession. 0.99

01:12:36.000 Like, the Buddha figure, I have a bunch of Buddhas, I have different Ganeshes and all these different things from Thailand and China and I'm obsessed with that shit. 1.00

01:12:48.000 I don't know why. 0.99

01:12:49.000 I've always been.

01:12:50.000 I've always been obsessed with that.

01:12:51.000 I see that and it's like, part of me goes, I want that near me.

01:12:54.000 I want that close to me.

01:12:55.000 I don't know why.

01:12:56.000 Because you used to be a Buddhist.

01:12:58.000 You don't ever accept it, but it's like...

01:13:01.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:13:02.000 I used to be a monkey, dude.

01:13:03.000 Well, you were a monkey at some point, too.

01:13:05.000 I mean, look, again, that's like my own, obviously, that's my own sense of things.

01:13:10.000 But the concept of reincarnation, I think, is a really beautiful thing and probably pretty true.

01:13:16.000 Because, you know, people do have, especially when you look at my favorite reincarnation, Story is that woman who became an Egyptologist.

01:13:25.000 Her parents took her to this Egyptian exhibit when she was a little girl. 0.94

01:13:31.000 And she started crying and shit because she's like, there used to be gardens here. 0.98

01:13:36.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

01:13:37.000 But anyway, she was having this past life memory of living in Egypt.

01:13:40.000 And she became a very famous Egyptologist.

01:13:43.000 Jamie, do you mind looking that up?

01:13:45.000 Yeah, look that up. 0.97

01:13:46.000 Because it sounds like bullshit, but it's true. 0.91

01:13:48.000 She just remembered this other time, and she apparently identified aspects of that culture that they didn't believe at that point, but then later they realized she was right. 0.99

01:14:01.000 Or maybe she's crazy and she wants attention and this is what she does. 0.99

01:14:04.000 In order to be like the coolest version of the people that study Egypt, she pretends that in another life she lived there.

01:14:11.000 I was there.

01:14:11.000 Dun, dun, dun.

01:14:12.000 I'm not saying she is.

01:14:13.000 Relax, folks.

01:14:14.000 We're just talking.

01:14:15.000 Well, look, I mean, no, who are you going to make happy here? 1.00

01:14:18.000 Like, a huge group of people are like, shut the fuck up, hippie! 1.00

01:14:21.000 And a huge group of people are like, come on, Joe, it's reincarnation! 1.00

01:14:24.000 Stop being such a cuck! 0.98

01:14:25.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

01:14:27.000 But, you know, it is the...

01:14:28.000 You can't make everybody happy, Duncan.

01:14:30.000 Regardless of, like, the...

01:14:32.000 The girl who rose from the dead with memories of ancient Egypt.

01:14:36.000 Oh, what year is this?

01:14:37.000 Hold, please. 0.99

01:14:39.000 1904, I don't believe a fucking word of it. 0.99

01:14:42.000 What? 0.99

01:14:42.000 Back then, they believed in chiropractors. 0.99

01:14:44.000 They believed in a lot of shit. 1.00

01:14:45.000 Still believe in chiropractors. 1.00

01:14:56.000 Well, look, I mean, regardless, I do think, like...

01:14:59.000 From my perspective, that's just good karma.

01:15:04.000 We call it whatever you want to call it, but to be sort of...

01:15:06.000 I think anything that you're drawn to like that, whether it's like, you know, religious imagery or whether it's a style of literature or whatever, you're supposed to...

01:15:16.000 That's like the X marks the spot.

01:15:19.000 Like, you're supposed to go deep into it to understand.

01:15:22.000 Because, you know, those images, there's so much associated with those images.

01:15:29.000 They're fractals.

01:15:30.000 Right.

01:15:30.000 And the fractal contains within it all the scriptures.

01:15:34.000 And so, you know, the scriptures, when you convert them into imagery, they turn into a Ganesh or a Buddha.

01:15:40.000 Because it's all the same.

01:15:42.000 It's like the way if you make ice hot.

01:15:45.000 It turns into water.

01:15:46.000 But if you make it water hot, it turns into steam.

01:15:49.000 In the same way, the dharma, as they call it, it appears in these specific ways.

01:15:54.000 And one of them looks like that imagery.

01:15:57.000 It's just one of the ways this data set condenses into matter.

01:16:01.000 Well, it appears when you're under the influence of psychedelics.

01:16:05.000 That's the weirdest thing for me.

01:16:06.000 My first psychedelic trip ever, there was an infinite number of Buddhas in a lotus position.

01:16:12.000 There were these golden Buddhas floating around.

01:16:16.000 They represented perfect symmetry with the way they were seated.

01:16:19.000 Because they're seated in a lotus position, and from the top of their head, the peak of their head, it went straight down, and they were floating and moving all around in synchronicity, and I was like, whoa!

01:16:30.000 It was heavy!

01:16:31.000 And they didn't want...

01:16:33.000 You had to abandon...

01:16:35.000 This is the first thing I remember about the DMT experience, the first one with the Golden Buddha, which is literally why I got this tattoo.

01:16:42.000 Because it was one of the most profound moments of my life.

01:16:46.000 Because it was the first time where I felt 100% clear that there was no room for bullshitting anybody.

01:16:54.000 You can get by with charisma, and you can say things the right way, and you can pretend, and maybe have a little bit of luck, and maybe have some genetic gifts for certain things, but who are you?

01:17:09.000 What are you?

01:17:10.000 Who are you really?

01:17:12.000 And you realize, oh my god, I'm carrying around all this nonsense for no reason.

01:17:16.000 And it don't work on them anyway.

01:17:18.000 When you get over there and all those Buddhas were floating in and around me, they knew I didn't sleep as much as I did. 0.94

01:17:26.000 They knew I used my phone more than I say I do.

01:17:29.000 They know everything.

01:17:31.000 They know all the lies and all the painful memories of regret that you have from the time you could remember from being five.

01:17:41.000 I hit my cousin in the face with a bag of cookies when I was five and I still feel bad about it.

01:17:45.000 Oh, man.

01:17:46.000 I feel bad about it.

01:17:48.000 This is what happened.

01:17:49.000 How big was the bag?

01:17:51.000 It wasn't very big.

01:17:53.000 It's not that.

01:17:53.000 This is what happened.

01:17:54.000 I hit him with the bag and the cookies went flying.

01:17:57.000 They hit the dirt.

01:17:58.000 And then we couldn't eat the cookies.

01:18:00.000 And I was so mad.

01:18:02.000 He was bigger than me.

01:18:02.000 My cousin was bigger than me.

01:18:03.000 And he was upsetting me. 0.99

01:18:05.000 And I remember I just grabbed a cookie bag and fucking swung it out. 0.96

01:18:08.000 But when the cookies went flat out, I felt so bad. 0.96

01:18:11.000 And that was one of the first times that I had ever made an epic mistake, where everybody around me wanted these cookies.

01:18:17.000 Because we were in New Jersey, and there was these delis, or bakeries rather, that would make bread, and we'd go with my grandfather all the time to get bread, and we would get cookies and little pastries, and I would look forward to them so much. 0.98

01:18:30.000 But my cousin was fucking with me. 0.98

01:18:33.000 And I just wanted to swing on him. 1.00

01:18:35.000 And I needed something to hit him with. 0.98

01:18:36.000 I guess.

01:18:37.000 I was like five years old.

01:18:38.000 But I remember that.

01:18:39.000 Like that kind of thing.

01:18:41.000 Like that kind of regret.

01:18:43.000 Like it stays with you.

01:18:45.000 Like your whole life.

01:18:47.000 Yeah.

01:18:48.000 Isn't that intense?

01:18:49.000 It's weird.

01:18:50.000 And you, you, that, that, so what happens is you start, that's, you start thinking that's who you are.

01:18:55.000 Yeah.

01:18:56.000 Because it's so loud and it's just, you just naturally start thinking like, oh yeah, I'm, that's me.

01:19:03.000 I'm that regret.

01:19:04.000 And so in that is the, that's how you become a person is you start, you know, picking out the loudest aspects You focus on that.

01:19:12.000 Yeah.

01:19:13.000 And assemble it.

01:19:14.000 Now you've got a personality. 1.00

01:19:15.000 This is the shit you put in your Twitter bio. 1.00

01:19:17.000 You're like, I forgive, but I never forget. 1.00

01:19:22.000 Now you've got to stick to that fucking rule. 0.99

01:19:24.000 And you know what I mean? 1.00

01:19:25.000 Now this is a rule you just made for yourself.

01:19:29.000 Just saying, this is what I must be like.

01:19:31.000 And it's like no different than like...

01:19:35.000 When you have your imaginary friend and you're like, Lika, he enjoys dancing.

01:19:41.000 It's like, well, that's not anything there.

01:19:44.000 Or that sheet you put on Instagram. 0.98

01:19:46.000 Yeah, it's the guy who fucking sold the sculpture. 0.96

01:19:48.000 It was a zero thing. 0.98

01:19:49.000 Nothing's there.

01:19:50.000 It didn't exist.

01:19:50.000 He sold it for $18,000.

01:19:53.000 But this is why I love that symbol of art that he did because I think it's a critique of what lots of people are doing.

01:20:00.000 Or I think it's a drug dealer looking to launder money.

01:20:02.000 It's an easy way to do it because there's no object. 0.99

01:20:05.000 Where's that fucking sculpture? 0.99

01:20:06.000 Why can't it be both? 1.00

01:20:07.000 It doesn't even exist.

01:20:08.000 You can actually launder money and make a social critique simultaneously. 0.99

01:20:12.000 That's what fucking art is. 0.99

01:20:16.000 You can launder money and make a social critique simultaneously. 1.00

01:20:20.000 That's what fucking art is. 0.99

01:20:22.000 They're not mutually exclusive! 0.99

01:20:23.000 Put that in quotes and let's make t-shirts.

01:20:25.000 Let's go!

01:20:28.000 You gotta move here.

01:20:29.000 I can't do this without you.

01:20:30.000 You have to move here.

01:20:32.000 Don't torture me.

01:20:33.000 Let's just do one a week.

01:20:34.000 One a week?

01:20:36.000 We just got my...

01:20:38.000 I'd love to, by the way.

01:20:39.000 I'd love to, too.

01:20:41.000 I think we can sort things out.

01:20:43.000 I think when I get the most ultimate cancellation and then all the other celebrities aren't willing to come on the podcast anymore, just you and me.

01:20:51.000 Okay, you're not going to get...

01:20:52.000 People love you.

01:20:52.000 You're not going to get...

01:20:53.000 You're just in a little bit of trouble.

01:20:54.000 You get in trouble.

01:20:56.000 I get in a little bit of trouble.

01:20:57.000 You get in trouble!

01:20:58.000 I get in a little bit of trouble. 1.00

01:20:59.000 Yeah, every time I'm on fucking Twitter, it's like, God damn it. 1.00

01:21:02.000 You should stay off Twitter. 1.00

01:21:04.000 Well, yeah, well, you know...

01:21:05.000 Listen, but we were talking about before with, like, Russians and bots and Chinese and bots and all these things.

01:21:09.000 Yeah.

01:21:09.000 The problem with Twitter is...

01:21:10.000 I'm sorry, man.

01:21:11.000 My wig's falling off.

01:21:12.000 I'm so sorry.

01:21:13.000 I'm so sorry.

01:21:14.000 It's annoying.

01:21:15.000 Just a wig break.

01:21:15.000 People are probably done with this anyway.

01:21:18.000 I'm not.

01:21:19.000 I've not done all this for the next many years.

01:21:21.000 Ah, freedom.

01:21:21.000 Bald druids, right?

01:21:23.000 Aren't they like monks?

01:21:24.000 Yeah.

01:21:24.000 No, that's...

01:21:25.000 Aren't they bald?

01:21:26.000 The problem with Twitter is the same problem with how easy it is to pretend you're a person on Twitter because it's so impersonal and so little of you comes through in text that it's easy to start thinking of people like their text It's easy to say mean things or be disrespectful or dismissive or completely lack compassion.

01:21:50.000 And as a person who's been the subject of it, it's fascinating.

01:21:53.000 And my strategy has always been like, I'm just going to just not pay attention to this.

01:21:58.000 Because I don't want to argue with anybody.

01:22:00.000 I genuinely try to be the best person I can be, and like all of us, I'm flawed.

01:22:04.000 And I know what my intentions are, and I know how I try to go about business and life, and I try to be as nice as possible.

01:22:11.000 That's my goal.

01:22:12.000 So when I see people communicating the way they communicate on Twitter, I'm like, there is no way that that syncs up with my view of the world, and I can't argue on it either.

01:22:23.000 Like, if you argue on Twitter, then you're synced up to this really low vibration.

01:22:29.000 Now, here's the problem.

01:22:32.000 Occasionally, it's a resource.

01:22:35.000 Occasionally, you learn some really interesting stuff. 0.94

01:22:38.000 You see a funny meme, someone informs you about a documentary or a book that you really, you read it and like, holy shit, thank you so much. 0.57

01:22:46.000 Occasionally, it does that. 0.93

01:22:48.000 But it also harbors so much negative thinking. 1.00

01:22:52.000 It's so bad for the people that are slinging that shit. 1.00

01:22:55.000 You're just thinking about it all day long. 1.00

01:22:57.000 That's all they're thinking about, and they're engaged in some sort of verbal battle.

01:23:02.000 And the problem is I know a lot of them independently, right?

01:23:05.000 So I know I'm outside of Twitter, and I'm talking to them, and they're on medication, and they're doing all kinds of weird things to deal with their anxiety, and I'm like, hey man, do you ever think part of that?

01:23:15.000 Might be this battleground you're engaging in, this impersonal, emotionless battleground where it's 70% insults.

01:23:24.000 What are you doing?

01:23:25.000 Dude, I saw the Dalai Lama speak in Anaheim.

01:23:31.000 How long ago?

01:23:32.000 Long time ago.

01:23:34.000 I was on Mushrooms. 0.99

01:23:35.000 It was fucking crazy. 0.98

01:23:36.000 But one of the things he said was... 0.82

01:23:40.000 And you know, it's weird, because again, this is stuff you hear, this is stuff that anyone could say, but somehow when it's coming out of the Dalai Lama, who, by the way, has this translator who's been with him forever, and you see those two on stage together, and then you will understand what Buddhism looks like, because it's not serious,

01:23:57.000 it's not heavy, they're talking to each other to translate, they're laughing to each other as they're translating.

01:24:03.000 It's just so in the moment and fun, and you look at that and you're like, Oh, that's not the boring thing that I thought it was.

01:24:11.000 This is alive and sweet and fun, and they're enjoying what they're doing.

01:24:16.000 It's really, really cool.

01:24:17.000 But one of the things that came up was this issue of when someone insults you, when someone says something shitty to you.

01:24:26.000 And I don't remember the question, but someone's asking this question.

01:24:29.000 The way the Dalai Lama put it was, they don't know you, number one, but what you're seeing is an echo.

01:24:35.000 Someone did that to them, it got inside of them, and then it is echoing.

01:24:40.000 They're like the wall of a weird, infinite, geometric cave, and this wave of negativity is bouncing off of them, bouncing to you, and you have a choice to react to it as though it were real.

01:24:55.000 And if you do, you become solid enough to bounce it onto somebody else or realize what it is.

01:25:01.000 You're just looking at an echo.

01:25:03.000 Once you realize that, you don't feel as defensive.

01:25:07.000 If it's a person attacking you and you feel like, I've got to defend against this person, but if you realize, really, Most people, when they're saying shitty things to other people, they don't know that person because they don't know themselves.

01:25:23.000 Well, the problem is even if they do, like Louis C.K. said something that's really appropriate here.

01:25:29.000 We were talking about it.

01:25:30.000 He goes, it's just talk.

01:25:32.000 He goes, it seems like it's different because it's written down, but it's just talk, which is one of the most ultimate Louis C.K. things to say.

01:25:39.000 People have always just said crazy shit, but it didn't necessarily mean anything. 0.99

01:25:43.000 But now, because it's written down, all of a sudden we think it means something, but it's basically just people talking shit, right? 1.00

01:25:49.000 But they're talking shit, and some people... 1.00

01:25:52.000 Unfortunately, it's like too much of their life. 1.00

01:25:54.000 I've been around too many people where they're hanging out with you in the middle of the day, and then they pull up Twitter, and you see their eyes gloss over, and they start arguing with someone on Twitter, and then they check it every five...

01:26:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!

01:26:05.000 They're talking to you, but then you have to check the Twitter.

01:26:07.000 I'm like, bro, this is not good for you.

01:26:10.000 It's like Paw Patrol for my toddler.

01:26:14.000 My wife's been putting off Paw Patrol now for a long time. 0.99

01:26:17.000 I didn't know what it was.

01:26:18.000 She's like, I don't like it.

01:26:19.000 She was a nanny, so she's like, I don't want to do Paw Patrol. 1.00

01:26:22.000 Finally, she's like, let's just do Paw Patrol.

01:26:24.000 We show them Paw Patrol.

01:26:25.000 Suddenly, Forrest is watching it.

01:26:27.000 I'm like, hey, Forrest, you want to go feed the crows?

01:26:30.000 Because in the morning, we feed the crows, and he doesn't answer.

01:26:33.000 He's looking, and she says to me, he's gone.

01:26:36.000 Paw Patrol now.

01:26:37.000 He's in Paw Patrol now.

01:26:39.000 But yeah, it is.

01:26:40.000 I think that's the real tragedy.

01:26:43.000 It's not so much the, you know, micro moments of feeling butt hurt because someone that you will never meet decided to say the meanest thing anyone ever said to you. 0.98

01:26:54.000 That sucks.

01:26:56.000 But what really sucks is all those moments when you're completely glue-trapped into this technological opiate and you're not interacting with people around you. 0.95

01:27:06.000 And then also you're carrying the weight of whatever the particular thing is like, my god, it's not like everyone out there is just like, you know, there's some precise archers of pain out there.

01:27:21.000 We're not talking about a shotgun scanner.

01:27:24.000 This is not your mama jokes.

01:27:27.000 This is like surgically designed. 0.88

01:27:30.000 Yeah, Reddit assassins.

01:27:31.000 Right, where you're just like, dear God, dear God, how do you know me so well?

01:27:37.000 You're right.

01:27:39.000 You got me.

01:27:42.000 You got me.

01:27:44.000 But see, this is the difference between those Buddhas you saw and humans. 0.98

01:27:48.000 Because a human identifies that thing and, number one, pretends that it's weird that another human should have a... 0.94

01:27:57.000 Flaw, a paradox, a fucking contradiction, that they're not perfect. 0.98

01:28:03.000 And then for whatever reason, we'll also think, because you're not perfect in this specific way, I'm going to fucking do everything I can to expose and hurt you. 0.99

01:28:12.000 Whereas those things that you saw, they love you anyway. 0.94

01:28:17.000 They love it itself.

01:28:19.000 And so this is the difference between- Humans are affected by demons is what you're trying to say.

01:28:24.000 I'm saying...

01:28:25.000 Demons to keep you from loving.

01:28:26.000 Yes. 0.88

01:28:27.000 I'd say humans are not...

01:28:29.000 The demons are just a confusion.

01:28:31.000 It's not a demon.

01:28:32.000 It's like a confusion.

01:28:33.000 The confusion is...

01:28:34.000 I think surrounds what the nature of human identity really is.

01:28:40.000 It's a confusion.

01:28:41.000 It's a problem of... 0.94

01:28:43.000 The term ignorance comes up in Buddhism a lot and it doesn't mean like dumb. 0.95

01:28:49.000 It means active ignoring, right? 0.99

01:28:51.000 So like any given person has within them stuff they're not proud of, but not just not proud of like you'll admit it on a podcast, you know, like, man, I just love to like suck a woman's feet while I jerk off. 0.99

01:29:07.000 Is it the most appealing thing? 0.99

01:29:09.000 No.

01:29:10.000 Do I feel weird admitting that?

01:29:11.000 Not at all!

01:29:12.000 Who cares, right? 1.00

01:29:13.000 But I'm talking about the deep shit. 0.99

01:29:16.000 There's stuff you don't want to say. 0.99

01:29:18.000 You're literally so ashamed of it that you don't want to look at it yourself.

01:29:24.000 So that's called active ignoring. 1.00

01:29:25.000 And so what that does is sweeping the shit under the rug. 1.00

01:29:28.000 So then, now you're going through day-to-day ignoring whatever the fucking thing is. 1.00

01:29:33.000 You smack the person with cookies, which is not that big a deal. 0.99

01:29:35.000 Some people burnt their fucking grandparents' house down and never told anybody. 0.99

01:29:40.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:29:40.000 And so you're going day-to-day and you can't really... 0.99

01:29:44.000 You pretend you don't look at it.

01:29:45.000 You don't look at it.

01:29:46.000 You don't look at it.

01:29:46.000 And then, this is where aggression comes from.

01:29:48.000 It's because you are pretending you're Something.

01:29:53.000 And that takes so much energy, too, because you always have to, like, avert your eyes from this aspect of yourself that you consider to be subpar or whatever.

01:30:02.000 And so this produces all this aggression, but because you're not looking at it in yourself, you see it in someone else.

01:30:08.000 So now it's all reflected all around you. 0.99

01:30:11.000 Your entire life has become a disco ball upon which the shit you don't want to look at is being reflected back at you over and over and over again. 1.00

01:30:19.000 Now you're in hell! 1.00

01:30:21.000 Because the thing you thought you could just ignore is in your friends. 0.90

01:30:25.000 It's in the government.

01:30:26.000 It's in your dogs.

01:30:27.000 It's in every single thing.

01:30:29.000 Some version of it weirdly reflected.

01:30:32.000 So that's called the act of ignoring.

01:30:34.000 So one aspect of Buddhism is the invitation.

01:30:37.000 Look it in the eye.

01:30:38.000 See what happens.

01:30:39.000 What happens if you stop ignoring it and not just look at it like it's separate from you, be it.

01:30:48.000 Fully, completely.

01:30:49.000 Chogyam Trungpa calls it like, compares it to when you go out to the Badlands.

01:30:55.000 And yeah, is this a beautiful place by normal standards?

01:30:58.000 No.

01:30:59.000 Or even like volcanoes, like in Iceland where that volcanic eruption happened.

01:31:03.000 It's lava and cracked and inhospitable.

01:31:06.000 Is it like beautiful in the sense of Hawaii?

01:31:08.000 No. 0.99

01:31:08.000 But it's fucking beautiful. 0.99

01:31:10.000 And so when you start looking at the entirety of what you are, You stop focusing on the Hawaii side and give some equal attention to the fucking Mordor side and in that you become a real person and all of a sudden the people around you that you used to think were fucking like you know assholes or out to get you or this or that You stop seeing it in them anymore, 0.98

01:31:33.000 and the reason is because you've acknowledged it in yourself. 0.91

01:31:35.000 This is the idea, and then maybe you can become like those Buddhas you saw. 0.99

01:31:39.000 Because when you've done that with yourself, and you see someone who thinks they're being clever and hiding the fucking thing, and the way I think I'm hiding my bald spot because I can't see it, and then when I'm trying on clothes, I see it in the mirror, and I'm like, oh my god! 0.55

01:31:53.000 Does everyone see that? 0.96

01:31:54.000 Yes!

01:31:55.000 They see it whenever they're there.

01:31:56.000 You're walking in front of them.

01:31:58.000 That's hilarious.

01:31:59.000 But anyway, so that's the idea.

01:32:00.000 And then you can love people.

01:32:03.000 Not because they're perfect, but because you see, oh, they're just like me. 1.00

01:32:07.000 They have shit that they're hiding from themselves. 1.00

01:32:09.000 They have shit they're embarrassed about. 1.00

01:32:10.000 They have shit they're working on. 1.00

01:32:12.000 Everybody. 1.00

01:32:14.000 Can I ask you this?

01:32:15.000 Do you think that there's something that's happening with the understanding of this, for the most part?

01:32:20.000 Like a lot of what you're saying resonates.

01:32:27.000 Yeah. 0.91

01:32:40.000 Do you think that this and this new ability to discuss shit like this, like where in pop culture did this conversation ever get to take place up until now? 0.98

01:32:52.000 In terms of the past, in terms of like, if you wanted to reach millions of people, how the fuck could you do this on VH1? How the fuck could you do this on MTV? Oh, right. 0.98

01:33:01.000 Yeah.

01:33:01.000 Yeah, it's not their fault, but it's not what their business was.

01:33:04.000 How could you do it on CBS or NBC? How could you do it on Fox?

01:33:08.000 You couldn't.

01:33:09.000 But it's not their fault, right?

01:33:11.000 That's not what they do.

01:33:12.000 They do something different.

01:33:14.000 So here you are talking about this and a lot of people are like, yeah, but why do you think of yourself as who you were when you were 16?

01:33:21.000 Or why do you think about yourself who you were when you were five, hitting your cousin in the head with a bag of cookies?

01:33:26.000 Why do you think about yourself like that?

01:33:28.000 What is it?

01:33:29.000 Well...

01:33:30.000 It's weird.

01:33:31.000 It's memory, but it's also...

01:33:32.000 Yeah.

01:33:33.000 There's a thing where the engine that tries to improve your life can get out of control and start gobbling up things it doesn't necessarily need to.

01:33:43.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 And it starts taking over all the various aspects of life.

01:33:47.000 You meet someone who's amazing, but they're also super hypercritical and they hate themselves.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 Okay, listen. 0.98

01:33:53.000 I think you're fucking awesome. 0.96

01:33:55.000 Dude, why don't you like yourself? 0.93

01:33:59.000 So many people like you.

01:34:01.000 You've got to re-tweak this thing.

01:34:03.000 Turn it to the left.

01:34:04.000 Click, click, click, click.

01:34:05.000 You're out of alignment.

01:34:07.000 And you see it.

01:34:08.000 But you can't re-tweak it.

01:34:10.000 I don't know about that, man.

01:34:11.000 No, I mean, I don't mean there's no hope.

01:34:14.000 I mean, like, Pema Chodron, there's a great book.

01:34:17.000 It's called The Wizard of No Escape.

01:34:19.000 But in the very beginning, she says these people, they take up this process of meditation because they want to become better people.

01:34:26.000 This is an aggression to yourself as you are right now.

01:34:29.000 It goes back to this idea of like, the thing here, and this is not to say, so therefore we don't improve, but the idea is like, right now, what happens if, because the thing you're talking about, the tortured mind, the way the mind produces thoughts,

01:34:46.000 the way the tongue salivates, it just produces an infinite form of thoughts, an array of thoughts, many of which are completely mundane, some of which are horrible, It's horrifying, some of which are just basic day-to-day bullshit that you have to do, but it's always doing this thought production situation within which is encapsulated all of your neuroses,

01:35:05.000 all of your complexes, all the things that you feel awful about, all the karmic shit from your whole life, right? 0.92

01:35:11.000 So if you begin to realize, oh shit, that's in me, but I'm not sure it is me, And then you start attacking it. 0.98

01:35:19.000 In other words, you're like, try to fix it. 0.97

01:35:21.000 It's a project now.

01:35:22.000 So I'm going to take this thing in my mind.

01:35:24.000 I'm going to fix it.

01:35:25.000 Now you're interacting with it.

01:35:27.000 You're affirming it in the affirmation.

01:35:28.000 It becomes more condensed and crystallized.

01:35:31.000 Then you become a person who's deeply engaged in the process of getting better.

01:35:36.000 I don't know if you've ever run into those people.

01:35:38.000 They've been reading self-help books for the last 30 years.

01:35:41.000 They're just constantly like, I'm working on myself.

01:35:44.000 The only thing that really shows is where are you?

01:35:48.000 What have you done?

01:35:50.000 That's what shows.

01:35:51.000 What have you done?

01:35:52.000 Where did you used to be?

01:35:54.000 Where are you at now?

01:35:55.000 Like right now, where are you at and why are you there?

01:35:57.000 Are you there because you just got kicked out of your parents' house and you're trying to get back on your feet?

01:36:02.000 Or are you there because you're 40 and you've made every wrong decision over and over and over again and you're mad at everybody around you but you're not mad at yourself?

01:36:11.000 Okay.

01:36:12.000 Right? 0.99

01:36:12.000 Yes, and the invitation here is instead of coming to that conclusion, which is called waking up out of a dream, you wake up, you're like, oh my fucking God. 0.99

01:36:22.000 It was all a dream. 0.89

01:36:24.000 I used to read Word Up magazine. 0.99

01:36:26.000 And you wake up, and suddenly you're like, man, I used to read Word Up magazine, now I can't pay my fucking mortgage. 0.99

01:36:31.000 I don't know what the fuck is happening. 0.98

01:36:33.000 And so again, in that moment, a lot of people feel intense shame. 0.99

01:36:38.000 Intense shame, intense guilt.

01:36:41.000 So the idea is, the first step is like, and then in that intense shame and guilt, how are you going to treat people around you? 1.00

01:36:47.000 Like shit, because you're hurting. 0.99

01:36:50.000 So the first step is, at the very least, do this wonderful thought experiment. 1.00

01:36:54.000 To me, it's more than a thought experiment, but it's like what my guru, Neem Karoli Baba talked about.

01:37:00.000 By the way, when you can just casually say my guru, that's what my guru, Neem Karoli Baba said.

01:37:07.000 You know, that guy.

01:37:09.000 Whatever, whatever.

01:37:10.000 I'll just keep talking.

01:37:11.000 I tried to say it super fast so you wouldn't notice it.

01:37:14.000 You've said it to me a thousand times!

01:37:15.000 I auctioneered it this time, because I'm like...

01:37:17.000 What'd you say?

01:37:22.000 Neem Krolli Baba. 0.73

01:37:24.000 Yes.

01:37:24.000 You know, so the idea is, it's really an intense idea, and these days it's weirdly controversial, and there's certain times when it's not the right thing to say to people, but essentially the idea is where you're at is perfect.

01:37:39.000 Play around with that just for fun.

01:37:40.000 Give yourself one minute. 1.00

01:37:42.000 After the one minute you can go back to whipping yourself with the fucking belt of your mind because you didn't make the right choices or you're a bad boy or a bad girl. 0.99

01:37:51.000 But for a minute, play around with the idea that where you're at is perfect. 1.00

01:37:55.000 It's exactly where you need to be.

01:37:58.000 You're there in the same way people go to a gym.

01:38:01.000 Because this situation is going to teach you everything you need to know about the universe and start living your life from that perspective.

01:38:09.000 So in other words, you don't become passive and think, oh, this is perfect. 1.00

01:38:12.000 I'm addicted to fucking meth and my apartment is covered in cat shit. 0.99

01:38:17.000 No, it doesn't mean you just leave it like that, but instead of beating yourself up for it, just allow that to be perfect and then see how you start acting. 1.00

01:38:29.000 You know, man, when I've started taking these fucking vitamins and, like, you know, I've been drinking more water and trying to eat better because the pandemic, I got a little unhealthy and now I'm feeling, like, good.

01:38:40.000 And when I'm feeling good, I'm nicer to people. 0.99

01:38:43.000 It's just how it is.

01:38:44.000 If I feel good, I'm going to be kind.

01:38:46.000 For sure.

01:38:47.000 So anyway, this is the idea.

01:38:49.000 First, just let yourself be where you're at.

01:38:54.000 That's perfect.

01:38:55.000 It's wonderful.

01:38:56.000 In fact, you've been invited to the most incredible academy that ever was.

01:39:02.000 And the form that you've been invited to it in And the situation that you're in right now, just forget the idea.

01:39:09.000 You caused this from a lot of decisions you made in the past. 0.99

01:39:12.000 Half the time you were fucking asleep. 0.99

01:39:14.000 You didn't know what you were doing. 0.99

01:39:15.000 You were scared.

01:39:16.000 You were running from something. 1.00

01:39:18.000 You were fucking so angry at your parents. 1.00

01:39:19.000 Dealing with your childhood, the way you were raised and taught and trained. 1.00

01:39:23.000 It's like when I got on...

01:39:25.000 At one point when I was combating insomnia and I got on Ambien. 1.00

01:39:31.000 And fuck that shit, man. 1.00

01:39:32.000 Talk to me about that. 1.00

01:39:33.000 Oh my god, dude.

01:39:35.000 I got on Ambien.

01:39:36.000 You know, Kevin James told me he went to the supermarket and bought food and came home and cooked it and doesn't remember any of it.

01:39:41.000 Yep.

01:39:41.000 Well, Ambien's...

01:39:42.000 I think he went to the supermarket.

01:39:43.000 Either way. 1.00

01:39:45.000 Cooked a fucking meal. 1.00

01:39:46.000 It fucking sucks. 1.00

01:39:47.000 Was ready to call the cops in the morning. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Thought someone broke into his house and cooked dinner.

01:39:51.000 Not for me, man.

01:39:52.000 It's like, because it's like you want to sleep.

01:39:54.000 It's like a disassociative, right?

01:39:56.000 It's like you teleport from when you close your eyes and you teleport to the next morning.

01:40:00.000 No rest, just as though you jump through time.

01:40:03.000 How do you feel? 0.93

01:40:05.000 It's fucking awful, if you're me, but to be fully honest, that was when I was addicted to ketamine, so I was on a bit of a rampage, man, I will admit, so it's hard to say it was necessarily because of ketamine. 0.98

01:40:16.000 Oh, what a fucking funny aside. 0.98

01:40:19.000 Full disclosure. 0.99

01:40:21.000 That's a hilarious aside.

01:40:23.000 But I remember the next morning my wife being like, well, do you know what you did last night? 1.00

01:40:29.000 And I'm like, no.

01:40:30.000 And she's like, well, you kept calling a temple in Bhutan. 0.94

01:40:35.000 So, like, I was like, I look at my phone and I was just calling this fucking beautiful temple in Bhutan, you know, many times. 1.00

01:40:44.000 I don't know what I was trying to do there, what was happening, but yeah, fuck Ambien, man. 1.00

01:40:48.000 But the point is, like, Maybe not fuck Ambien. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Maybe while you were doing that, maybe the problem with Ambien is not Ambien. 0.99

01:40:57.000 The problem is that Ambien only projects to everybody watching the reality of this carbon-based life.

01:41:05.000 But when you're on Ambien and you're calling that temple, you're trying to mind-sync with a lot of these Buddhas.

01:41:12.000 If they got on the phone with you, you're like, Hey man! 0.89

01:41:16.000 I'm fucking hanging out here in Georgia and was thinking I'd like to join! 0.97

01:41:22.000 I'm Addicted Academy! 0.96

01:41:24.000 Can you help me Buddha?

01:41:30.000 Through the phone, you don't even remember it.

01:41:32.000 You wake up, you don't even feel like you slept. 0.62

01:41:33.000 It's because you've been tripping balls all night with some Buddha. 0.83

01:41:37.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I would love to believe that. 0.99

01:41:39.000 I think probably what happened is I was one of many fucking high people who probably leave an answering machine every night at that place. 0.98

01:41:45.000 Stop being so hard on yourself. 0.98

01:41:47.000 I will!

01:41:47.000 Maybe you're a psychic.

01:41:49.000 Well, look, you know, man, I think these days the big trick is just kind of temporarily...

01:41:58.000 Give up the project of crucifying all the people that you view as being, like, villainous, and realize that you've kind of been crucifying yourself, and you're not fooling anybody.

01:42:10.000 We all know that you have been tormenting yourself, and really you've been so hard.

01:42:16.000 A lot of people don't have a mom. 0.98

01:42:19.000 I see the way my mom, that's a fucked up Freudian slip. 1.00

01:42:24.000 I see the way my wife acts with a child and that love. 0.99

01:42:29.000 And then the children just eat it up, eat it up.

01:42:32.000 It's like watching like rain fall.

01:42:34.000 And it's like, I think how many people in the world do not have that situation.

01:42:40.000 They don't have it.

01:42:41.000 No one's loving them like that.

01:42:43.000 No one's eating them up and loving them no matter what.

01:42:45.000 And no one taught them to do it for themselves.

01:42:48.000 Oh, God, it's a disaster, man.

01:42:51.000 And because of that, they secretly think they're just abject failures.

01:42:55.000 They're comparing themselves to, like, LeBron James.

01:42:59.000 You know, like, when I'm writing, I compare myself to, like, Bukowski.

01:43:02.000 And I'll look at my writing and be like, this is the worst writing I've ever seen in my life! 0.86

01:43:06.000 Well, no shit, because you're comparing yourself to, like, one of the greatest writers that ever lived. 0.98

01:43:11.000 And so, in my opinion. 0.99

01:43:13.000 And so, anyway, all I'm saying is, like, damn, on a planetary level... 0.98

01:43:18.000 Take, you don't have to tell anyone you're doing it, but let's fucking have a little, like, a little armistice, like on that Christmas Eve when the, I think it was the French and the Germans, it was Christmas Eve. 0.98

01:43:29.000 They all played football together or whatever they played? 0.93

01:43:31.000 Yeah!

01:43:31.000 Let's have a little armistice and for a second, like, just...

01:43:35.000 Give yourself an hour of not thinking you're the most secretly rotten piece of shit that ever wandered across the planet and just realize you deserve all the love in the world and where you're at is just great and like you're great and I know no matter what you're like someone's listening to this who's like actively who's probably got a bowl of like hot dog shit they're just They're just eating it. 0.99

01:44:01.000 But even that, just give yourself a break. 1.00

01:44:04.000 I'm not saying start some bullshit sweet nonsense like be nicer to the people around you. 0.90

01:44:10.000 I'm saying just give yourself a 30 minute respite from the never ending constant secret self-loathing horror you've been subjecting yourself to because that's going to be a great 30 minutes. 0.94

01:44:25.000 Yeah, and if you can do that, you'll probably have this inclination towards, like, spreading that to other people.

01:44:31.000 I would say that could be an inevitable result of that, but even if it's not, even if you immediately go back to like...

01:44:39.000 To be in a good? 1.00

01:44:40.000 Fuck you, motherfucker! 1.00

01:44:42.000 I hate your voice. 1.00

01:44:44.000 I've never heard a more annoying voice than your voice. 0.99

01:44:47.000 Whatever, go back to it. 0.88

01:44:48.000 Go back to the war and enjoy it. 0.99

01:44:50.000 Dear Joe Rogan, why do you have that cuck with that fake voice on your show spouting out Marxist nonsense? 1.00

01:44:56.000 Yeah, it's not fucking Marxism. 1.00

01:45:00.000 He's got a fucking Illuminati ring, bro. 1.00

01:45:03.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:45:04.000 I wore the fucking Illuminati ring. 1.00

01:45:05.000 I got it at this wonderful store in Nashville. 1.00

01:45:08.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:45:09.000 Jesus God, it's scary.

01:45:11.000 Thank you so much.

01:45:12.000 My instincts are on point, though.

01:45:14.000 My reflexes.

01:45:15.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah.

01:45:16.000 Nothing's dropped. 1.00

01:45:18.000 Stop shit. 1.00

01:45:19.000 Catch it. 1.00

01:45:20.000 Hey, dude, did you see that naked girl attack the fucking outbox? 1.00

01:45:23.000 I heard. 1.00

01:45:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:45:24.000 Started throwing things and bottles of wine and shit. 0.98

01:45:26.000 You gotta watch the video. 0.98

01:45:27.000 Can we watch the video?

01:45:28.000 Okay, yeah, let's watch it.

01:45:30.000 I saw it like briefly on Instagram and I didn't continue watching.

01:45:34.000 I've limited my Instagram intake to positive things only.

01:45:38.000 That's great.

01:45:39.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure this is entirely negative.

01:45:41.000 And occasional car accidents.

01:45:47.000 You know, the problem with a lot of these videos, man, is you don't get the backstory.

01:45:51.000 And that to me is like, I really want to know why she decided to attack this outback.

01:45:57.000 Because she put on... 0.66

01:45:59.000 Well, I have to blame her parents, first of all.

01:46:02.000 Did you see the couple that fell off the balcony?

01:46:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:05.000 Oh, that was horrible.

01:46:06.000 That was horrible.

01:46:07.000 They're probably dead.

01:46:08.000 No, they survived.

01:46:09.000 They survived.

01:46:10.000 The impact of the head.

01:46:11.000 They survived.

01:46:12.000 They had, like, bad injuries, but they survived.

01:46:15.000 She's 53. I didn't think that was the case.

01:46:17.000 She's 53?

01:46:18.000 She actually looks pretty good.

01:46:19.000 She looks great.

01:46:22.000 Yeah, for 53. No, I think she just looks great.

01:46:24.000 She's out of her mind.

01:46:26.000 No, wait, that's...

01:46:27.000 Did you tase her?

01:46:28.000 That's way into it.

01:46:28.000 Okay, that's way into it.

01:46:29.000 You gotta see the...

01:46:31.000 Did this go to the beginning?

01:46:32.000 That video didn't happen.

01:46:33.000 Oh, that's where it started?

01:46:34.000 Yeah.

01:46:35.000 Why did you tase her like that? 1.00

01:46:36.000 Well, because she was running at him and she had been like, you gotta see the video before and you'll understand.

01:46:41.000 Like, it wasn't like...

01:46:42.000 He should have just gave her his number.

01:46:44.000 So let's let him get off at 6. Give her the number after you tase her.

01:46:46.000 Let's go have coffee. 0.70

01:46:48.000 Sit down, talk about how you got naked at the Outback Steakhouse.

01:46:52.000 I've got passes.

01:46:54.000 I've got Applebee's discount coupons.

01:46:56.000 You should be like a counselor.

01:46:58.000 That's the thing they say about police.

01:46:59.000 A lot of times these mental health issues, this is one of the defund the police ideas.

01:47:05.000 They need mental health counselors, not police to do that kind of work.

01:47:09.000 Dude, I've seen it work.

01:47:10.000 I've seen it work.

01:47:12.000 Mental health counselors?

01:47:13.000 I'm going to tell you a burning- That's what I'm saying about that guy.

01:47:15.000 Yes, I agree with that.

01:47:17.000 I'll tell you a Burning Man story that'll make you make fun of me for a little bit if you want to hear it.

01:47:21.000 Well, okay.

01:47:28.000 One a week.

01:47:29.000 One a week.

01:47:30.000 That's all I'm asking for.

01:47:31.000 So if Burning Man, like, oh wait, let's just watch this. 1.00

01:47:34.000 Fuck the Burning Man story. 1.00

01:47:35.000 It goes right to the guy. 1.00

01:47:37.000 I don't know.

01:47:38.000 Well, maybe they cut it out.

01:47:39.000 They think the funniest part is when she gets tasered. 0.96

01:47:42.000 The guy did not need to taser her, man.

01:47:44.000 Like, honestly.

01:47:45.000 Does he really need to taser her?

01:47:47.000 You gotta watch the whole thing.

01:47:49.000 She was throwing bottles at him.

01:47:51.000 What did she say about my sister?

01:47:54.000 I don't know.

01:47:57.000 Call Brian Casey.

01:47:59.000 God, poor Brian Casey. 0.96

01:48:01.000 Brian done had a sexual relationship with the wrong lady. 0.96

01:48:06.000 Call Brian Casey. 0.97

01:48:09.000 I like how she's got sneakers on, but totally naked.

01:48:13.000 I think those are flip-flops.

01:48:14.000 Are they?

01:48:15.000 I thought she had a bikini on when I first saw it, but apparently not.

01:48:19.000 But that would be the move.

01:48:21.000 What do you mean?

01:48:22.000 The bikini's the move?

01:48:23.000 The move, yeah.

01:48:25.000 You make your point.

01:48:25.000 You don't have to go to jail.

01:48:27.000 I think you go to jail.

01:48:28.000 It doesn't matter what you're wearing if you're demolishing a bar.

01:48:32.000 But yeah, she was like hurling bottles at him and then he pays her. 1.00

01:48:35.000 That's hilarious.

01:48:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:37.000 That's how it goes, man.

01:48:40.000 What do you mean?

01:48:40.000 Well, you hang out with one of them gals.

01:48:42.000 That's how it goes.

01:48:43.000 Oh, right.

01:48:44.000 A lot of fun in the beginning, not so much fun at the end.

01:48:46.000 That was a bad swipe.

01:48:47.000 Yeah.

01:48:48.000 Somebody swiped the wrong way.

01:48:49.000 No narcotics in her system, outside of THC, it says. 1.00

01:48:53.000 Yeah, outside of being out of her fucking mind. 1.00

01:48:55.000 You don't have to have narcotics to be crazy. 1.00

01:48:57.000 That sucks to, like, own a bar and someone calls and is like, yeah, it's like no different from, like, a bear getting in your house. 0.93

01:49:02.000 Or does it? 0.96

01:49:02.000 They should have their watermark on that bar. 0.96

01:49:04.000 It'd be worth a million dollars in advertising. 0.99

01:49:06.000 It's a fucking NFT. Right. 1.00

01:49:09.000 Sell it.

01:49:10.000 It's an NFT. Make yourself some Dogecoin.

01:49:12.000 Yeah.

01:49:13.000 Oh my God.

01:49:14.000 Yeah.

01:49:15.000 Dogecoin.

01:49:16.000 I just invested in Doge.

01:49:18.000 I thought it was Doge.

01:49:19.000 Whatever.

01:49:19.000 You're probably right.

01:49:20.000 I'm not paying attention.

01:49:22.000 You gotta invest.

01:49:23.000 We gotta drive up the price.

01:49:25.000 I got in at 36 cents. 0.98

01:49:27.000 It seems like Anonymous is mad at Elon Musk for tweeting about Bitcoin and fucking around, right? 0.96

01:49:33.000 I didn't know Anonymous was- But is that real? 0.98

01:49:36.000 What?

01:49:36.000 Here's the thing.

01:49:37.000 What's the source of Anonymous?

01:49:38.000 That might be artificial intelligence from Russia that created some video to try to make us think that some people out there are really mad about Elon. 0.99

01:50:01.000 Yeah, see, anybody can make a video and say, I'm anonymous, and I think that Elon Musk should eat shit, or I'm gonna blow the planet up. 0.95

01:50:11.000 How many times, honestly, how many times have you secretly thought I'm gonna make an anonymous video? 0.99

01:50:17.000 I mean, who the fuck is the anonymous spokesperson? 0.97

01:50:19.000 Are we sure? 0.99

01:50:23.000 Exactly!

01:50:24.000 Are we sure this is the anonymous spokesperson? 0.98

01:50:28.000 How the fuck do we know? 0.98

01:50:29.000 Wendy's on Tunnel Road in Nashville. 0.99

01:50:31.000 Your time has come.

01:50:32.000 Yeah, just like, who's the boss here?

01:50:35.000 You guys have to have a president like the NRA. You can't just run around.

01:50:39.000 You can't just run around and call yourself anonymous.

01:50:41.000 I did see a story yesterday.

01:50:43.000 Not as deep as this, but there are ransomware attacks happening.

01:50:48.000 Not just like that gas pipeline, but there are multiple cities.

01:50:51.000 There's like a hospital that was going to have all of their records deleted within five days or something.

01:50:59.000 Sorry, Jamie.

01:50:59.000 No, go ahead.

01:51:00.000 I didn't mean to cut you off.

01:51:01.000 There's like a $55,000 payment they're requesting.

01:51:04.000 Well, they attacked the meat supply, right?

01:51:06.000 Meat supply, gas.

01:51:07.000 They attacked the gas supply.

01:51:09.000 They just called this like small town.

01:51:11.000 And the small town, like, they paid, but they were like, look, we can only get together $8,000.

01:51:15.000 You hit up the wrong people here.

01:51:17.000 But let's look at this.

01:51:18.000 Let's look at this honestly.

01:51:20.000 Think about what happened with just right here in Texas when the power went out for a week and everybody panicked.

01:51:28.000 Think of what would have happened if the power grid collapsed.

01:51:32.000 Like they said, it was like minutes away from collapsing.

01:51:35.000 Think of what would happen if that's nationwide.

01:51:37.000 Think of what would happen if somehow or another China or Russia figured out a way to collapse our power grid through some sort of computer device.

01:51:46.000 Think about instead of China or Russia, one rogue hacker that decided he wanted to do it.

01:51:53.000 Forget about a nation.

01:51:54.000 What about someone who's doing it for the lulz?

01:51:56.000 This is the problem.

01:51:59.000 This is...

01:52:00.000 This is why, this is one of the Fermi Paradox things, man, which is like, if you look at human personalities, most of us, when we get a technology, we're totally cool with it.

01:52:11.000 I grew up in the South. 0.98

01:52:13.000 My dad had a fucking arsenal. 1.00

01:52:18.000 I've never seen so many guns. 1.00

01:52:20.000 He had the number of guns a general in Eastern Europe would need.

01:52:27.000 That many guns.

01:52:29.000 The worst thing that happened to him is apparently he was hunting doves, hit a vulture, and it threw up on his face.

01:52:40.000 It's like my mom would happily tell that story after the divorce. 0.90

01:52:43.000 But that's it with the guns. 0.99

01:52:46.000 But one tiny percentage of us is so insane that we're going to take that fucking thing and ruin it for everybody else. 0.99

01:52:54.000 So that is a problem because right now it's guns and definitely computers for sure. 0.98

01:53:02.000 People have already been using computers to do more than just like, I'm going to make a cool app where you can learn how to code.

01:53:10.000 People have obviously been using computers, like the people who made the early computer viruses.

01:53:15.000 I used to work in my computer lab at my college and I had like a cork board of viruses that I like found in computers in the early days just for fun, you know, it's cool.

01:53:25.000 But like, so clearly people are going to do that with computers.

01:53:28.000 So, okay, CRISPR gene editing.

01:53:31.000 Oh yeah, right now, if I wouldn't know how to get all the shit I need to have whatever a CRISPR gene editing thing is, I would never in a million years probably be able to get the stuff to do gain of function, you know, genetic engineering on things.

01:53:47.000 But what about in 20 years?

01:53:49.000 What about in 50 years?

01:53:50.000 Eventually, if we have around the entire planet, one person who's butt hurt, That's the apocalypse.

01:54:00.000 That's the apocalypse.

01:54:01.000 So this is the Fermi paradox where they say, like, why aren't we seeing things out there in the universe? 0.99

01:54:06.000 It's because on these planets where they developed a technology that could easily have created a utopia, there was one supreme asshole who was like, let me see what happens if I fuck with the mousepox again. 0.99

01:54:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:21.000 And then just everyone dead. 1.00

01:54:24.000 Well, you know, I had a bit about that.

01:54:26.000 It's that episode of Black Mirror.

01:54:27.000 Oh, that's right.

01:54:28.000 That's why he gets all that DNA from everyone he hates. 0.99

01:54:30.000 Goddamn, that's a good movie. 0.97

01:54:31.000 Have you ever seen that episode of Black Mirror? 0.98

01:54:33.000 I didn't finish the episode.

01:54:35.000 It's so good.

01:54:35.000 What?

01:54:36.000 That's how it is?

01:54:37.000 It's so good.

01:54:38.000 I don't want to say anything.

01:54:39.000 I don't want to say anything.

01:54:40.000 You've got to watch it.

01:54:41.000 Watching that made me so nervous I couldn't finish it.

01:54:44.000 It's so good.

01:54:44.000 I can't get through some Black Mirror episodes.

01:54:46.000 I got a piece so bad.

01:54:48.000 I'm going to come back.

01:54:49.000 You guys talk about Black Mirror, but I do have a point.

01:54:51.000 What were we just talking about so I can remember?

01:54:53.000 Viruses, Fermi Paradox, Super Apocalypse.

01:54:55.000 That's right.

01:54:55.000 Got it, got it, got it.

01:54:57.000 I gotta pee so bad.

01:54:59.000 Go pee, man.

01:55:00.000 Usually it's me.

01:55:00.000 I feel kind of...

01:55:01.000 That's pretty cool.

01:55:02.000 I don't know what happened.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, we had two shows today.

01:55:06.000 So you're just playing golf now.

01:55:08.000 You're out of video games?

01:55:09.000 Oh yeah, hard turn.

01:55:10.000 Am I allowed to say that, Jamie?

01:55:10.000 No, I'm adding that to it.

01:55:14.000 I've always done most Tiger Woods golf back in the day.

01:55:17.000 Have you started buying clubs?

01:55:19.000 Oh yeah, I went for a fitting.

01:55:21.000 I have two drivers now.

01:55:23.000 How much does a driver cost?

01:55:25.000 They can go up to...

01:55:26.000 I mean, really, I've learned...

01:55:27.000 I'm learning...

01:55:28.000 I'm diving headfirst into this.

01:55:30.000 They can go up to probably a couple thousand dollars, but that's a driver head, the shaft, the grip...

01:55:38.000 Dude, okay, so I had a friend a long time ago who played Burzum to me, you know, like death.

01:55:44.000 People always, it's doom metal or death.

01:55:46.000 It's like intense, heavy-duty, hardcore music.

01:55:50.000 And he played it for me when I was really high, and I was like, ugh.

01:55:54.000 And he said, like, do you feel the pole? 0.63

01:55:56.000 Do you feel it?

01:55:57.000 And I'm like, oh my god, I feel it.

01:55:58.000 It's like hypnotic.

01:55:59.000 It like draws you in.

01:56:01.000 That's funny.

01:56:02.000 That's how I feel about golf!

01:56:03.000 It's close, yeah.

01:56:04.000 It's scary!

01:56:05.000 Like, you feel this—I don't know, because to me, when I look at it, I think, that seems like something you should have to pay people to do.

01:56:12.000 It's like you're hitting a ball, and it's like, with the tools you're using, you're horrible for— You could pick it up, but so many people have given over their entire lives to this thing, indicating it's got to be the most joyful thing on Earth.

01:56:30.000 But why?

01:56:31.000 What makes it so...

01:56:31.000 I'm starting to think about it recently, comparing to every other sport.

01:56:35.000 The thing I've got onto right now is that it's you versus nature.

01:56:38.000 You versus yourself, but it's also you versus nature.

01:56:40.000 Because the day you go out there has a lot to do with everything that's going to happen.

01:56:44.000 Wind, sun, rain...

01:56:47.000 Oh.

01:56:49.000 That, and then can you conquer that?

01:56:51.000 Oh, that's crazy.

01:56:53.000 Can you take the course over?

01:56:54.000 I don't know.

01:56:54.000 It gets a little way too much.

01:56:56.000 I'm not that deep into it.

01:56:57.000 No, but most people, when they're playing pool, most of the conditions are controlled for it.

01:57:03.000 Yeah, that's all inside.

01:57:04.000 So it's you versus yourself more than that.

01:57:06.000 Bowling.

01:57:07.000 Controlled conditions.

01:57:08.000 Locked into a space. 0.99

01:57:09.000 But this is the whole, you have 7,000 yards of space to fuck around in. 0.99

01:57:13.000 Wow. 1.00

01:57:14.000 And suck. 1.00

01:57:15.000 Suck a lot. 1.00

01:57:16.000 You suck so hard. 1.00

01:57:17.000 You always suck, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:57:18.000 But you never get better. 1.00

01:57:19.000 You talking about golf?

01:57:20.000 Yeah, he just started bringing it up, so hey.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, Jamie's obsessed with hitting the ball far right here.

01:57:25.000 Aren't you afraid of getting sucked into golf, man?

01:57:27.000 I'm terrified.

01:57:28.000 Me too.

01:57:28.000 I don't play it.

01:57:29.000 But I can't play pool that much.

01:57:31.000 I'm getting a pool table installed here soon, but I've been avoiding pool.

01:57:36.000 I'm gonna try it.

01:57:37.000 I can't have the video games.

01:57:38.000 We did the video games for a few months, and I was like...

01:57:41.000 You get too hooked.

01:57:42.000 Daddy can't have the video games.

01:57:44.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 We got problems.

01:57:46.000 Because you start feeling crazy.

01:57:48.000 You start feeling like, what am I doing? 0.99

01:57:50.000 Dude, I'm fucking crazy. 0.98

01:57:51.000 That, to me, is like protecting my children against wolves. 1.00

01:57:55.000 It becomes this obsessive thing where it's like, I've got to protect the tribe. 0.99

01:58:00.000 You get locked into these goddamn games because they're so exciting. 0.99

01:58:05.000 I wish I wasn't such a simpleton, because if I could just play for like one hour and stop, I cannot. 1.00

01:58:14.000 Because at one hour, I start getting a better feel of where my cursor's going.

01:58:20.000 When I'm moving the mouse around, I get a better understanding of strafe jumping and how to aim with my railgun.

01:58:27.000 Can't do it.

01:58:29.000 Same. 1.00

01:58:29.000 I'm too dumb. 1.00

01:58:31.000 I get too excited. 0.99

01:58:33.000 I get too locked in.

01:58:34.000 And there's the realization that that's more fun than anything else I do ever.

01:58:38.000 The best.

01:58:38.000 Other than like beautiful things involving people that you love dearly, like real love and emotions and real moments, like regular shit you do like watch TV is never exciting as a game of Quake.

01:58:52.000 If you and I were sitting in front of two monitors, playing Quake, calling each other pussies, yelling at each other, laughing when we died, it's a cackling, ridiculous fun time. 0.99

01:59:05.000 We would walk out of that studio and our fucking heart would be beaten too fast. 0.99

01:59:09.000 As I've gotten into golf, this is what it's about, really. 1.00

01:59:14.000 It's about hanging out with three of your friends, playing terribly, but drinking beer and talking shit for four or five hours. 0.97

01:59:20.000 That's what it's really- Do you dress up in the golf wear? 0.99

01:59:22.000 Only if you have to.

01:59:23.000 He does.

01:59:24.000 He has to.

01:59:25.000 That's my rule.

01:59:25.000 Because you kind of actually do have to.

01:59:27.000 They won't let you play.

01:59:28.000 He has to wear plaid pants and knee high socks.

01:59:29.000 You have to!

01:59:30.000 There are weird rules.

01:59:31.000 I just heard there's a rule.

01:59:33.000 I need to have it explained to me, but in England and Scotland, on some of these courses, if you don't Turn in your card with your handicap correctly written with your score, you're going to be like banned from the course.

01:59:42.000 Okay.

01:59:43.000 So you won't even be allowed to play again.

01:59:45.000 You know what? 0.98

01:59:47.000 I don't want to say it because I don't want to like shit talk on here. 0.99

01:59:50.000 The point is like golf people are a little uptight. 0.98

01:59:52.000 What are you saying?

01:59:53.000 Okay, I'm saying a friend of mine. 0.89

01:59:55.000 You're saying they're secretly gay?

01:59:56.000 A friend of mine.

01:59:57.000 No, I'm not saying that.

01:59:58.000 That's what I got out of it.

02:00:01.000 No!

02:00:02.000 That's what I got out of the way you were saying it.

02:00:04.000 It seemed like that's what you meant.

02:00:06.000 Most people who work at golf shops, I have made love.

02:00:11.000 Male or female.

02:00:12.000 Thank God you're the first one to say it.

02:00:14.000 I was going to say, like, they're erotic.

02:00:15.000 I think everybody's going to go, me too.

02:00:18.000 It's going to be like that scene in Toy Story.

02:00:21.000 Look, what's more erotic than golf?

02:00:23.000 Nothing.

02:00:24.000 A sentence that's never been said.

02:00:26.000 Some people love it.

02:00:27.000 But some golfers, they're uptight is what I'm saying.

02:00:29.000 Are golfers uptight?

02:00:30.000 Well, it's very fancy.

02:00:31.000 There's a movie.

02:00:32.000 I think about it all the time.

02:00:33.000 It's why I think I even like it at all.

02:00:35.000 It's called Tin Cup.

02:00:36.000 Kevin Costner's in it.

02:00:37.000 Oh yeah, I remember that.

02:00:38.000 It's about in Texas golf.

02:00:39.000 There's two modes in it.

02:00:40.000 He's like this laid-back golf pro. 0.99

02:00:42.000 Doesn't give a shit about a lot of things. 1.00

02:00:44.000 And Susan Sarandon's hot as fuck. 1.00

02:00:46.000 Rene Russo. 0.99

02:00:47.000 Isn't she in there?

02:00:48.000 Rene Russo's in it.

02:00:49.000 Who's the other one?

02:00:49.000 I don't know who it is.

02:00:50.000 It's not Susan Sarandon?

02:00:51.000 I don't think so.

02:00:52.000 Google that.

02:00:53.000 I will.

02:00:55.000 Definitely Rene Russo.

02:00:56.000 He's just going against some pro who's like, it's his life and he's just wanting to make a name for himself one time.

02:01:02.000 Just one time.

02:01:03.000 And at the end of the movie it is.

02:01:04.000 I think I'm thinking of the wrong movie.

02:01:06.000 Maybe I'm not, though.

02:01:07.000 Golf movies?

02:01:08.000 Oh, you're right.

02:01:09.000 I'm thinking of a baseball movie.

02:01:10.000 There was a baseball movie with Kevin...

02:01:12.000 She's in Bull Durham.

02:01:13.000 That's right.

02:01:13.000 Thank you.

02:01:14.000 Thank you very much.

02:01:16.000 Yeah, that movie.

02:01:17.000 That was a great movie, too. 0.99

02:01:18.000 Kevin Costner's made some goddamn gems. 0.99

02:01:20.000 Except Waterworld. 0.98

02:01:21.000 Hey, guys.

02:01:23.000 You know what's great about Waterworld? 0.99

02:01:25.000 Waterworld sucks, but that fucking show at Universal that they do? 0.99

02:01:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:29.000 It's really fun. 1.00

02:01:30.000 Okay. 1.00

02:01:30.000 Fuck people. 1.00

02:01:31.000 I'm not you. 1.00

02:01:32.000 I'm sorry.

02:01:32.000 You know I love you, but I'm sorry.

02:01:34.000 I disagree with the Waterworld critics.

02:01:37.000 The movie?

02:01:38.000 Critics of the movie?

02:01:38.000 What are you looking for?

02:01:40.000 It's hilarious.

02:01:41.000 Now it is, but it's like Showgirls, but in water.

02:01:45.000 What else would you want in the world than Waterworld?

02:01:47.000 But no, you don't get it.

02:01:48.000 Back in the day, it was like a wet The Postman.

02:01:53.000 Did you see that one?

02:01:54.000 That was his other giant flop.

02:01:56.000 I didn't see The Postman.

02:01:57.000 By the way, Kevin Costner, I love you to death.

02:01:58.000 Me too, Kevin Costner.

02:01:59.000 A giant fan.

02:02:00.000 You tried!

02:02:01.000 Waterworld, you tried! 0.95

02:02:02.000 Listen, man, if I made that movie, it would have sucked a thousand times worse.

02:02:05.000 But you also did Dances with Wolves. 0.98

02:02:08.000 I fucking love that guy. 0.90

02:02:09.000 He's been in a lot of great movies. 0.98

02:02:11.000 That's not my point.

02:02:12.000 My point is, like...

02:02:14.000 Waterworld is not a good movie.

02:02:16.000 It's just not good.

02:02:18.000 And The Postman is not a good movie either.

02:02:19.000 They're just not good.

02:02:20.000 They didn't work.

02:02:21.000 But the Waterworld show at Universal is really good.

02:02:26.000 It's really fun.

02:02:27.000 You know what, man?

02:02:29.000 Somebody worked on Waterworld.

02:02:31.000 A lot of people know.

02:02:32.000 I have friends that worked on Waterworld.

02:02:33.000 It's got good reviews on Google.

02:02:35.000 Of course it does.

02:02:36.000 It's a joke. 1.00

02:02:37.000 They're just fucking around. 0.99

02:02:38.000 There's nothing crueler you can say to an artist than to say, you know, the thing you made is not that great, but there's a universal right based on it. 0.99

02:02:45.000 It's cool.

02:02:47.000 That's what they say about Fear Factor.

02:02:49.000 Is there a Universal Fear Factor?

02:02:52.000 Yes.

02:02:52.000 Some other dude does Fear Factor at Universal.

02:02:55.000 It has nothing to do with me.

02:02:56.000 I'm three people removed.

02:02:58.000 It's like that guy and then Ludacris.

02:03:00.000 You know about the imposter Blippi? 1.00

02:03:02.000 You know Blippi?

02:03:03.000 You know who Blippi is?

02:03:04.000 No.

02:03:05.000 Blippi is like the new Pee Wee Hermit. 1.00

02:03:08.000 He's like my kid.

02:03:09.000 Do you know Blippi?

02:03:09.000 Blippi.

02:03:10.000 No.

02:03:12.000 Blippi, by the way, I'm sorry.

02:03:14.000 I really do love Blippi.

02:03:15.000 In the same way we were saying I love Kevin Costner, I love Blippi. 0.63

02:03:18.000 Can I just stop for a second?

02:03:19.000 I don't think I'm ever doing shows with the lights on again.

02:03:22.000 Yeah, this is nice.

02:03:23.000 This is my favorite show.

02:03:24.000 Okay, so that's Blippi, right? 0.98

02:03:25.000 Now Blippi, that's the imposter Blippi. 1.00

02:03:28.000 Which one?

02:03:29.000 The one on the right is the imposter, the one on the left is the original Blippi. 1.00

02:03:32.000 So Blippi... 0.99

02:03:33.000 So did he eat the original Blippi? 1.00

02:03:35.000 No.

02:03:35.000 So that, the Blippi on the left, there was some controversy because the Blippi on the left started doing tours, saying he was going to be at the tours, but the Blippi on the right showed up at the tours.

02:03:47.000 And so people were like, what the fuck? 0.98

02:03:48.000 It's not the real Blippi. 1.00

02:03:49.000 It's an imposter Blippi. 1.00

02:03:51.000 What is Blippi on?

02:03:52.000 Blippi's on YouTube.

02:03:54.000 Angry parents are demanding refunds for YouTube star Blippi's live show.

02:04:00.000 The popular kids entertainer previously involved in a poop video scandal is launching a live show tour using an impersonator.

02:04:14.000 By the way, I'm going to say that again.

02:04:16.000 Previously involved in a poop video scandal.

02:04:22.000 This is why the aliens won't land! 1.00

02:04:25.000 You fucking fools! 1.00

02:04:28.000 You're holding us back. 1.00

02:04:29.000 The aliens are hovering and then plunging into the ocean.

02:04:33.000 Blippi! 1.00

02:04:34.000 It's a fake!

02:04:34.000 They get a fake Blippi.

02:04:35.000 We can't.

02:04:36.000 Not yet.

02:04:36.000 You know what it's like?

02:04:37.000 It's like a complex souffle.

02:04:39.000 You want to make sure you pull it out of the oven at the exact time, and the aliens are like, not yet!

02:04:44.000 You don't want it to collapse.

02:04:45.000 Not yet.

02:04:47.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

02:04:48.000 They got their oven mitts on.

02:04:49.000 They're looking through the glass window in the oven.

02:04:52.000 Like, not yet.

02:04:53.000 They're not done yet.

02:04:54.000 They made a fake Blippi. 1.00

02:04:56.000 Like, damn, I thought it was done. 0.99

02:04:57.000 Not yet. 0.99

02:04:58.000 He's an entrepreneur.

02:04:59.000 I gotta say this.

02:05:00.000 The aliens, I think Blippi is one of the... 0.99

02:05:02.000 Great things about you.

02:05:03.000 Scroll back down.

02:05:04.000 Hold on a second.

02:05:05.000 Right there.

02:05:05.000 I didn't find out until five seconds after I submitted my payment and Ticketmaster refused to refund me, said Angelina Sakowski, who spent $126 on tickets to the New Jersey show.

02:05:19.000 Angelina Sakowski in New Jersey would be a fucking blast to do coke with. 1.00

02:05:24.000 Ticketmaster didn't seem to have any info about it being an actor on their website. 0.95

02:05:29.000 The info is buried on the bottom of the frequently asked questions page on Blippi's website.

02:05:37.000 Yeah.

02:05:37.000 It's like Gallagher 2. It's the scandal repeats itself.

02:05:41.000 Well, look, you know, I love Blippi.

02:05:45.000 You love Blippi?

02:05:46.000 Well, no, but when my...

02:05:47.000 What's your favorite thing about Blippi?

02:05:49.000 Because what's cool about Blippi is he, like, you know, in the way you go to Walt Disney World, and Walt Disney clearly respects kids, there's, like, the toilets are the size for kids, and, like, there's a sense of, like, understanding child intelligence is astute as an adult.

02:06:02.000 They just don't have the words yet.

02:06:04.000 He's really good at that.

02:06:05.000 So when he's showing a fire truck, he's not brushing over anything.

02:06:10.000 He's pointing out all the things that a kid would be interested in, which is like, what's that?

02:06:16.000 What's that?

02:06:17.000 What's that?

02:06:18.000 That's what I like about it.

02:06:19.000 I think it's really... 0.99

02:06:19.000 Of all the crazy shit that we've watched with my kid, it's the most... 0.99

02:06:23.000 At least it acknowledges that children have some intelligence. 0.99

02:06:28.000 So that being said...

02:06:31.000 The way YouTube works is you're just watching Blippi videos. 0.88

02:06:34.000 You know how it is, man.

02:06:34.000 A two-year-old...

02:06:36.000 I found his band video that got him in trouble.

02:06:40.000 What is it?

02:06:41.000 It was a Harlem Shake video.

02:06:43.000 Wait, show the Harlem Shake, not while I'm singing the praises of Blippi. 1.00

02:06:48.000 Goddammit. 0.91

02:06:49.000 This is the pooping video that got him in trouble?

02:06:51.000 Oh, he's pooping on his friend.

02:06:53.000 Oh, my God.

02:06:53.000 Oh, boy.

02:06:55.000 Oh, one more time.

02:06:56.000 Rewind that a little bit.

02:06:57.000 Rewind that a little bit.

02:06:59.000 Rewind that.

02:06:59.000 I need to see that.

02:07:00.000 Okay. 0.99

02:07:02.000 I was willing to go to bed for him until he just shit all over his friend, like legitimately. 0.99

02:07:08.000 It says Harlem Shane. 0.99

02:07:10.000 We have to learn to forgive, Joe.

02:07:11.000 I don't want to say the URL. That's not where it is anymore.

02:07:14.000 Alright, so this dude gets up and he literally Hershey squirts and empties out on his friend.

02:07:20.000 It's a big regret. 0.84

02:07:21.000 The friend's flinching like a first time porn star catching a facial. 0.93

02:07:24.000 No, it's friends acting like a roach that got sprayed with some kind of poison. 1.00

02:07:28.000 It's just bizarre that his friend is lying ass up in the air, also naked, while this dude shits on his naked asshole and dick. 1.00

02:07:37.000 Listen. 1.00

02:07:37.000 Some things should be illegal. 1.00

02:07:39.000 I think we have to forget.

02:07:41.000 Like, Blippi grew up a little bit.

02:07:43.000 He wanted some views. 1.00

02:07:45.000 He ate bad ramen and shit on his friend. 1.00

02:07:47.000 It doesn't change the fact. 0.99

02:07:49.000 Some things should be illegal, though, Duncan. 0.99

02:07:51.000 Shitting on your friend should not be illegal. 1.00

02:07:52.000 Shit in your friend's asshole. 1.00

02:07:53.000 The apocalypse could come out of that. 1.00

02:07:55.000 Imagine if the next plague didn't come out of a Wuhan lab, but this guy shitting into his friend's asshole. 1.00

02:08:01.000 Just imagine if there's something that happened when shit eats shit and it just becomes like some super toxic evil alien. 1.00

02:08:08.000 You know, it's like... 1.00

02:08:09.000 Like mad cow disease from prions.

02:08:12.000 The idea is that a human being...

02:08:14.000 Jakob Kreutzfeldt disease is when cannibals eat human spinal tissue.

02:08:20.000 That's one of the ways you get it.

02:08:22.000 But they can get that disease from humans eating other human spinal tissue and brain matter, right?

02:08:28.000 So they get the prion disease.

02:08:30.000 Well, that's the same...

02:08:31.000 That's the same thing, isn't it?

02:08:33.000 Like, would it?

02:08:33.000 Because it's not supposed to do that.

02:08:34.000 You're not supposed to ever eat your friend's brain, right?

02:08:37.000 So nature's like, nature's like, yo! 0.97

02:08:40.000 This guy's gotta die!

02:08:41.000 You can't have him eating his friend's spinal column. 1.00

02:08:44.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

02:08:46.000 So nature has some, like, built-in fail-safes to keep you from eating your friends.

02:08:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:08:51.000 But this motherfucker shitting in his own friend's asshole, like, nature's not ready for that yet. 1.00

02:08:56.000 Well, nature thinks it's fine because Blippi's still alive. 1.00

02:08:59.000 He makes great kids videos, so it's okay. 0.99

02:09:01.000 John started making gross-out videos in 2013 under the persona of Steezy Grossman, a boy who was born as Poop after his parents had anal sex. 0.99

02:09:12.000 He makes great kid videos! 0.99

02:09:16.000 Who hasn't been a kid?

02:09:18.000 And Logan Paul put up a hell of a fight last night.

02:09:20.000 That's right! 0.97

02:09:24.000 We're living in a clown world! 0.98

02:09:26.000 We're living in a clown world! 0.98

02:09:34.000 We're living in a clown world!

02:09:36.000 Logan Paul went eight rounds with the greatest boxer that's ever lived.

02:09:39.000 Dude, I mean, like, there's no, because there's, like, you know, many people, and I think Logan Paul is aware of this, were looking forward to the satisfaction of watching Logan Paul being knocked out by a great boxer.

02:09:52.000 There was a sense of, like, we are going to see the hand of justice in the world.

02:09:56.000 You can't just decide you're going to fight the greatest boxer that ever lived and come out of that unscathed.

02:10:01.000 You're dead.

02:10:02.000 We were watching it the way we, like, people used to watch Gladiator. 1.00

02:10:06.000 Where they would put the fucking short-faced bear out and let the gladiator fight it. 0.98

02:10:12.000 You know what's going to happen. 1.00

02:10:13.000 The bear's going to eat the fucking gladiator. 1.00

02:10:15.000 But not in this case. 1.00

02:10:17.000 In this case it didn't happen.

02:10:18.000 But here's my...

02:10:19.000 I wrote an Instagram post about it today because I was genuinely...

02:10:26.000 All day, I was thinking, before I got here, when I was at the gym, I was working out, and I was thinking, I was like, there's something about that that's really intriguing to me.

02:10:34.000 Like, what is it?

02:10:35.000 And I tried to figure out what it was.

02:10:37.000 Like, what about the novelty of the moment?

02:10:39.000 Like, you, me, Tom Segura, Tony Hinchcliffe, Ron White, and Curtis.

02:10:46.000 Curtis Nelson, we're all sitting in my house.

02:10:49.000 We couldn't wait.

02:10:51.000 The thing is about to happen, we were all like, I can't believe this is happening.

02:10:54.000 I can't believe this is happening.

02:10:56.000 We're looking at them across the ring from each other.

02:10:59.000 Jake Paul's like three feet taller than I'm like, this is bananas.

02:11:01.000 This is so wild.

02:11:03.000 And he survived.

02:11:07.000 Floyd Mayweather made, like, $100 million.

02:11:10.000 He made, like, $100 million fighting a guy who had never won a professional boxing match. 1.00

02:11:16.000 Holy shit! 1.00

02:11:17.000 The annoying thing was, like, the announcers weren't acknowledging what was happening, which was like, what the fuck? 1.00

02:11:24.000 The problem is they had too many people talking. 0.98

02:11:26.000 They had a lot of people talking.

02:11:27.000 There was Mauro...

02:11:29.000 Yeah.

02:11:30.000 How do you say their names?

02:11:30.000 Dezo Samaro.

02:11:32.000 Dezo Samaro.

02:11:33.000 Who was the other guy?

02:11:34.000 Mauro Nalo...

02:11:35.000 Marwan Al already said, and there was one other gentleman.

02:11:38.000 The guy who got in the ring and interviewed Floyd and...

02:11:43.000 Anyway, there was one, two, three, four guys talking, which is a lot of people talking.

02:11:49.000 Right.

02:11:49.000 It's hard to do.

02:11:51.000 But it would have been nice to have options, is what you said.

02:11:56.000 If there was an optional stream, we could listen to like Teddy Atlas.

02:11:59.000 Yeah.

02:12:00.000 Like a boxing expert.

02:12:01.000 Because those guys were being funny and they were having a good time and everything like that, which is great.

02:12:05.000 I think that comes from Triller.

02:12:07.000 You know Triller? 0.99

02:12:08.000 You have Snoop Dogg fucking around. 1.00

02:12:10.000 I get it. 1.00

02:12:11.000 I understand what the reason was behind it.

02:12:14.000 I don't watch boxing a lot.

02:12:16.000 So it's cool to be sitting next to you and you're like, oh look, he's trying to drain him. 0.98

02:12:21.000 He fucked up because in the very beginning he expended too much energy. 0.98

02:12:24.000 These are things I don't even know. 1.00

02:12:26.000 So that's all.

02:12:27.000 It just added a dimension to it that was interesting.

02:12:30.000 Well, I was trying to break it down technically.

02:12:32.000 I'm like, there's some interesting things that are happening here.

02:12:34.000 First of all, Floyd is consistently putting pressure on him and moving and putting pressure on him and moving, putting pressure on him.

02:12:40.000 And after the third and fourth round, everything comes out a little slower.

02:12:45.000 So he has to be more measured.

02:12:47.000 So what Floyd is doing is consistently engaging with him and then pulling out.

02:12:52.000 And consistently engaging and making him swing and miss and swing and miss.

02:12:55.000 It's brilliant.

02:12:56.000 For people that got mad at it, I get it.

02:13:00.000 It's not Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather five years ago.

02:13:04.000 But what it is is one of the best boxers of all time making $100 million fighting a guy who's three feet taller than him and 35 pounds heavier than him who can't win.

02:13:14.000 It's amazing.

02:13:15.000 It's amazing.

02:13:17.000 Dude, that fight was amazing.

02:13:18.000 And there's a lot of amazing things.

02:13:20.000 First of all, Floyd's amazing.

02:13:22.000 The fact that Floyd has the balls at 44 years old to decide, oh, I'm just going to go ahead and fight some dude who's 35 pounds heavier than me at 26 years old. 0.90

02:13:33.000 It's crazy. 0.99

02:13:34.000 It's crazy.

02:13:34.000 And then the fact that he could put it on a guy like Logan Paul.

02:13:39.000 And here's another one.

02:13:41.000 The fact that Logan Paul went all eight rounds, that's astounding.

02:13:45.000 You have no idea how tired you would be if you were boxing with the greatest boxer that's ever lived.

02:13:50.000 I mean, maybe he's not the greatest, because that's subjective.

02:13:54.000 But in my opinion, he's the greatest. 0.98

02:13:56.000 The reason why he's the greatest, in my opinion, is he's only been hit hard and hurt like three times his whole fucking career. 0.97

02:14:03.000 There's no one that can say that. 0.96

02:14:05.000 The art of boxing has always been hit and not get hit.

02:14:09.000 And in my mind, no one's ever done that better than Floyd Mayweather.

02:14:13.000 Now here he is in his 40s.

02:14:15.000 He's made hundreds of millions of dollars fighting people who have really no chance of beating him.

02:14:21.000 Yeah.

02:14:22.000 Yeah.

02:14:23.000 That's crazy, man.

02:14:24.000 That's amazing!

02:14:25.000 Dude.

02:14:26.000 The controversy of the day.

02:14:29.000 Oh, people think he got knocked out?

02:14:30.000 That he got knocked out and he's being held up right here. 0.99

02:14:32.000 The fuck out of here. 1.00

02:14:32.000 People are so silly. 1.00

02:14:33.000 Dude, what if- You don't understand. 1.00

02:14:34.000 They don't understand shit about getting hit in the head. 1.00

02:14:36.000 These are the same dummies. 1.00

02:14:38.000 He's just hanging on, man. 0.98

02:14:39.000 He's just- He went for an overhook.

02:14:41.000 You guys have no idea.

02:14:42.000 This position right here, high elbow, going in for an overhook.

02:14:46.000 If he was wrestling, he would go back the other way and throw him on his back.

02:14:50.000 This is a normal thing for a wrestler.

02:14:52.000 Logan was a wrestler.

02:14:54.000 In fact, ready for this?

02:14:55.000 See how he's got that high overhook on the left-hand side?

02:14:58.000 Watch how this happens again. 0.99

02:14:59.000 This is what happens when a bunch of people comment on fights that don't know shit. 0.99

02:15:03.000 You see that high overhook? 0.99

02:15:05.000 Watch one more time.

02:15:06.000 So he hits him, and now look at Logan's right arm.

02:15:11.000 Watch what happens.

02:15:11.000 Or excuse me, left arm.

02:15:12.000 See what happens?

02:15:14.000 He's in control.

02:15:15.000 He's holding on to him.

02:15:16.000 Right, right, right.

02:15:17.000 He's a wrestler.

02:15:18.000 He's not going limp.

02:15:19.000 My friend Guy Sacco, who runs Defense Soap, that's his company.

02:15:24.000 He owns that company that I rave about all the time.

02:15:26.000 He told me today that Logan Paul was one of his wrestlers in the 1990s. 0.97

02:15:31.000 And he said he was really fucking good. 0.76

02:15:33.000 He said he was a really talented kid. 0.97

02:15:35.000 There's a video of him wrestling with Paulo Costa, who is a UFC middleweight contender, like a beast of a guy.

02:15:44.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:15:44.000 And Logan fucking scrambles on this guy, and he looks really good. 0.93

02:15:48.000 He can fucking wrestle. 0.99

02:15:50.000 So when you see that, he's not knocked out, you knuckleheads. 1.00

02:15:54.000 Stop talking about fighting.

02:15:55.000 He's holding on, and he's protecting himself, and he's controlling Floyd, and he's pushing his head to Floyd's chest.

02:16:02.000 This is what happens when you don't get commentary from a guy like Daniel Cormier or from a guy like Teddy Atlas or Max Kellerman, Jim Lampley, all the people that really understand boxing.

02:16:16.000 Andre Ward, Roy Jones Jr. Those are the people that are supposed to be commenting on boxing.

02:16:24.000 I think it shows Logan Paul, for whatever reason, even though he knows he's gotten good at boxing, he didn't realize that he's become a contender.

02:16:33.000 He felt weird about it, and so he had funny announcers.

02:16:36.000 He wanted that to happen.

02:16:37.000 That was the decision he made.

02:16:38.000 I don't think it was his decision.

02:16:39.000 I think it was Showtime's decision.

02:16:41.000 Well anyway, you know what?

02:16:42.000 This is what has occurred to me. 0.99

02:16:44.000 What if Logan Paul starts getting good at other shit? 1.00

02:16:48.000 It's like people think he's going to keep boxing, but the next thing is he gets into fucking chess. 1.00

02:16:54.000 And he almost beats a grandmaster. 0.99

02:16:58.000 And then after chess, he becomes an incredible violinist.

02:17:03.000 You know what I mean?

02:17:04.000 So now you're watching Logan Paul in some symphony doing the most incredible- Look, it's not impossible.

02:17:09.000 Here's the thing, it's not impossible.

02:17:11.000 It's just going to require a tremendous amount of effort and growth.

02:17:14.000 But it's not impossible.

02:17:16.000 See, the difference between someone who tries to get really good at fighting, who's obviously a really good athlete, like Logan Paul, and someone who gets really good at chess, is you don't have any inherent advantages anymore.

02:17:27.000 Because if you're a strong, fast person, you have advantages.

02:17:31.000 And those advantages ultimately trip you up in your mindset of learning, right?

02:17:37.000 And I realize this from martial arts, both from myself and from other people that I watched.

02:17:43.000 There's certain people that they were really physically talented and ultimately it was bad for them.

02:17:49.000 Because the physically talented people relied on their physical talents and didn't learn the technique as, like, cleanly as the people who weren't physically talented.

02:17:58.000 There's nowhere that's more true than jujitsu.

02:18:01.000 In jujitsu, the best fighters are not the most physically talented people, necessarily.

02:18:07.000 The best ones to learn from are usually the smaller people.

02:18:11.000 Like, Eddie Bravo was not a very big guy.

02:18:13.000 You know, there's a bunch of people like that, Hoyler Gracie, not a very big...

02:18:16.000 Right.

02:18:16.000 Marcelo Garcia, not a very big guy.

02:18:18.000 But they're super, super, super technical because of that. 0.99

02:18:21.000 And you learn from them, you're learning the real shit. 0.99

02:18:24.000 Some people, they're like, unfortunately, they just get fortunate. 1.00

02:18:29.000 Unfortunately, they get fortunate.

02:18:31.000 You know, where they have like these physical gifts.

02:18:33.000 And so they're not forced to learn and grow.

02:18:35.000 But Joe, this is what we were talking about earlier.

02:18:37.000 Here's the problem.

02:18:38.000 What happens when suddenly that goes away?

02:18:43.000 That entire process goes away.

02:18:45.000 So now you're not forced to grow.

02:18:48.000 I don't think that's true, Duncan.

02:18:50.000 This is why I'm arguing this.

02:18:52.000 This is what I was arguing before.

02:18:54.000 This is what I'm arguing now.

02:18:55.000 I think we've conflated struggle with improvement.

02:18:59.000 Oh, cool.

02:19:00.000 I don't think they're necessary.

02:19:01.000 I don't think they're necessary.

02:19:02.000 Listen, if anybody thinks it's necessary, then it's me.

02:19:05.000 Dude, I get up at 7 o'clock in the morning thinking I'm a loser, and I can't wait to go to work.

02:19:09.000 Yeah, man, all day. 0.90

02:19:10.000 I hate everything I do. 0.99

02:19:12.000 I want to work out like a fucking demon constantly. 0.99

02:19:15.000 Hey, that's the only way. 0.99

02:19:16.000 It works like the way it works with me.

02:19:18.000 I have to have a battle to fight.

02:19:20.000 So you feel like that might not be necessary?

02:19:23.000 My battle's always internal.

02:19:24.000 It's always internal.

02:19:25.000 Like, almost always.

02:19:27.000 Like, the thought process behind it is always my own criticisms of my own work. 1.00

02:19:31.000 Holy fuck, man. 0.99

02:19:32.000 There's no... 1.00

02:19:33.000 You know what...

02:19:34.000 That's why...

02:19:34.000 But that's why I'm...

02:19:35.000 If you look at the numbers or how successful some of the things that I've done is, it's not me.

02:19:41.000 It's like a weird mental illness that plugs perfectly into some endeavors.

02:19:45.000 Right.

02:19:48.000 Yeah, it's so weird.

02:19:49.000 But that's what it is.

02:19:49.000 It's like a mental illness that wants to be nice to people, but also wants to, I want to go.

02:19:57.000 Let's go.

02:19:58.000 Yeah.

02:19:58.000 Like, it's all day.

02:19:59.000 Let's go.

02:20:00.000 Let's go.

02:20:01.000 Dukkha. 0.92

02:20:01.000 It's suffering. 0.92

02:20:02.000 It's like, yeah, I had this weird moment when I realized that.

02:20:06.000 I realized, oh my god, the thing I think of as inspiration, a lot of the times it's just me trying to escape from my own suffering.

02:20:14.000 Yes!

02:20:14.000 That's why you're running so hard.

02:20:15.000 That's why you're trying to accomplish things.

02:20:17.000 We're all trying to escape from our own suffering, and I 100% recognize that.

02:20:22.000 And all of my ambition, and even my most aggressive moments, I look at like they're weak.

02:20:29.000 It's a weakness.

02:20:30.000 It's a weakness.

02:20:31.000 It's a weakness to embrace this resistance against the ultimate.

02:20:36.000 It's a weakness to hype up aggressiveness, to compete.

02:20:40.000 It's 100% a weakness.

02:20:41.000 I'm aware of it while I'm doing it.

02:20:44.000 It's exhausting.

02:20:44.000 It is exhausting, but it's sometimes fun too.

02:20:49.000 It's like both things.

02:20:50.000 It's sometimes fun to indulge in the chimp DNA. Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:20:56.000 Like, let it loose!

02:20:57.000 Well, you know, this is the...

02:20:58.000 Like, this is one of the...

02:20:59.000 This is probably...

02:21:00.000 I'm sorry my Buddhist friends are... 1.00

02:21:02.000 I shouldn't even be talking at this point, but, like...

02:21:04.000 Why?

02:21:05.000 Because I'm a little drunk, but, like...

02:21:07.000 Buddhists get mad when you talk drunk? 1.00

02:21:08.000 No, but there's some...

02:21:09.000 No, they don't get mad.

02:21:10.000 Any real, like, anyone who's a Buddhist that you're... 1.00

02:21:12.000 Probably is not going to get, like, mad.

02:21:14.000 It's not like that kind of thing.

02:21:15.000 It's more like you don't want to, like...

02:21:17.000 I guess anyone looking at someone in a robe wearing a wig who hears what they're saying and is like, that must be what Buddhism is!

02:21:24.000 Pfft! 0.63

02:21:28.000 In other words, the idea is what's cool about Buddhism is it's so beautiful and the system is so beautiful that you don't want to...

02:21:35.000 In the same way if you were talking about jiu-jitsu, you wouldn't want to say a thing about how to train that was slanted a little bit because you wouldn't want to hinder someone's ability to become good at jiu-jitsu.

02:21:47.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:21:48.000 That's what I mean.

02:21:49.000 That's just that.

02:21:50.000 So there's this idea of like, it's samsara and nirvana, like in other words, like confusion and enlightenment are wrapped up together, right?

02:22:01.000 Or bliss and suffering are actually the same thing.

02:22:05.000 Well, you know, in jujitsu, they're connected, like teaching and improving are radically connected.

02:22:11.000 Oh.

02:22:12.000 Inexorably.

02:22:12.000 Oh, you mean like to teach helps you get better.

02:22:15.000 Makes you better, yeah.

02:22:15.000 Right, yes.

02:22:16.000 But you know, you respect jujitsu and I respect Buddhism.

02:22:20.000 No, I respect both those things.

02:22:22.000 Both, I know you do.

02:22:22.000 But I mean enough to be like where you don't want to convey something.

02:22:26.000 I just know jujitsu in an intimate way, but those two things go hand in hand.

02:22:31.000 My friend Brent, we were kind of the same level.

02:22:36.000 I think we were like purple belts at the time.

02:22:37.000 And we always used to have really good rolls.

02:22:40.000 And then he became an instructor and started teaching people.

02:22:45.000 And right away, I was in danger.

02:22:51.000 Sometimes jujitsu is weird if you take a class.

02:22:55.000 You've been it.

02:22:55.000 You've taken classes.

02:22:56.000 You know it's weird.

02:22:57.000 You might be in the same class with a guy four weeks in a row and never roll with him because there's 100 people in the class.

02:23:03.000 You're rolling with a bunch of different people. 0.99

02:23:05.000 Then one time I rolled with him and all of a sudden I'm in deep shit. 0.92

02:23:09.000 I'm in danger and it fucked up my elbow for like a couple of weeks. 0.82

02:23:13.000 He got me in a Kimura and I wouldn't tap and I tried to get out of it and I couldn't do chin-ups. 0.99

02:23:18.000 I was fucked up. 0.99

02:23:19.000 It was like a lesson. 1.00

02:23:20.000 But he got way better from teaching.

02:23:23.000 And then I think there's two things going on.

02:23:25.000 I think one is the examination of the fundamentals and the deep understanding of positions.

02:23:32.000 But I also think There's something about helping other people that's really good for the head.

02:23:39.000 Yeah.

02:23:40.000 Really good for the head.

02:23:41.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:23:41.000 And there's something about when you have your head in a good place, you can be freer with your movements.

02:23:49.000 Yes.

02:23:49.000 You feel less burdened down.

02:23:51.000 Absolutely.

02:23:51.000 But martial arts, there is for sure a hierarchy that acknowledges various belts or levels of expertise.

02:24:03.000 It's teacher.

02:24:05.000 There's nothing worse, I'm sure, and I know it happens.

02:24:07.000 What's that great Instagram account?

02:24:10.000 McDojo Life.

02:24:11.000 Oh my god, it's so good.

02:24:13.000 It's so funny.

02:24:14.000 We went on today about a guy shaking guys off with his shoulders.

02:24:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:17.000 It gets dumber and dumber. 1.00

02:24:19.000 The thing is, the dude who created that website, he hasn't run out of examples. 0.99

02:24:27.000 So many. 1.00

02:24:27.000 There's so many examples of the most ridiculous shit. 1.00

02:24:30.000 So many. 1.00

02:24:31.000 Look at this guy.

02:24:31.000 So this is, by the way, this is happening with Snoop sounds.

02:24:35.000 So Snoop's music is playing.

02:24:37.000 Give me a little Snoop.

02:24:39.000 Are you kidding me, man?

02:24:41.000 Yeah.

02:24:41.000 No.

02:24:41.000 Watch.

02:24:41.000 Look at this.

02:24:49.000 It's so dumb. 0.99

02:24:51.000 This guy's pretending that no one... 1.00

02:24:54.000 I don't know what's happening.

02:24:56.000 It's like these guys are like bad actors.

02:24:58.000 They're falling down and falling behind him.

02:25:00.000 Look how they're grabbing his shoulders and falling down.

02:25:03.000 At this point, here's my worry.

02:25:05.000 That's meta.

02:25:06.000 My worry is that it's meta.

02:25:08.000 Oh, they're trying to get on.

02:25:09.000 Yeah.

02:25:10.000 That they're trying to get on McDojo Live.

02:25:12.000 And they're creating videos.

02:25:13.000 Probably.

02:25:14.000 There's a little bit of that. 0.99

02:25:15.000 This right here is fucking with me. 0.99

02:25:17.000 Because these guys are bad actors. 1.00

02:25:18.000 They have smiles on their faces.

02:25:20.000 They look too funny.

02:25:21.000 And he's wearing sunglasses.

02:25:22.000 One guy's wearing sunglasses.

02:25:24.000 Sunglass guy's a dead giveaway, it feels like.

02:25:25.000 This is a setup, man.

02:25:26.000 But it's a funny setup.

02:25:28.000 Listen.

02:25:28.000 McDojo Live might be behind the camera.

02:25:29.000 How about that?

02:25:30.000 Oh, God! 1.00

02:25:31.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00

02:25:32.000 You know what it's like? 1.00

02:25:33.000 It's like when the government does those things.

02:25:35.000 They do black ops.

02:25:36.000 And then they do false flags.

02:25:38.000 Right?

02:25:39.000 He ran out of videos, man!

02:25:42.000 And he has to keep it going.

02:25:43.000 He's got false flags.

02:25:48.000 I don't know if they're false flags, bro.

02:25:50.000 I love you.

02:25:51.000 I'm just joking around.

02:25:52.000 I think there's enough people out.

02:25:53.000 There might be, and they might just be making these videos to get put up here.

02:25:57.000 But at the end of the day, there's a lot of those videos. 0.92

02:25:59.000 Most of the videos McDojoLife at Instagram puts up are fucking real. 0.96

02:26:04.000 And it's disturbing. 0.91

02:26:05.000 It's a great account to follow, but all I'm saying is the reason when I'm saying that I'm confused regarding Buddhism is because I would never in a million years want to be the person professing to know a thing they don't understand.

02:26:21.000 And I think it's important in both Jujutsu and any kind of path that there has to be some acknowledgement that there are actual teachers There is a way of conveying the ideas that has been evolved over thousands of years that is the best way to convey the ideas.

02:26:40.000 And then there's also people like us who just love talking about it, but it's good to make a distinction because at least you alert people if you wanted to go deep into it.

02:26:49.000 There's an Eddie Bravo.

02:26:51.000 There's a David Nicker.

02:26:52.000 There's a Ram Dass. 1.00

02:26:53.000 There's a person you could go to if you really want to go deep into it that's there for you.

02:26:57.000 Or you can just listen to us talk about it and talk about it like us.

02:27:02.000 And that's also completely great.

02:27:04.000 You know what's interesting, man, in boxing that exists where people that are not even really good at it are really good at teaching it?

02:27:12.000 Oh, wow.

02:27:13.000 That's cool.

02:27:14.000 Yeah, like there's a bunch of people that were some of the best boxing trainers that have ever lived, and they weren't great boxers.

02:27:21.000 Like Angelo Dundee, the guy who trained Sugar Ray Leonard and Muhammad Ali.

02:27:26.000 Not a notable boxer.

02:27:28.000 Emanuel Stewart.

02:27:30.000 A guy who trained Thomas the Hitman Hearns, Gerald McClellan, Milton McCrory, Emanuel Stewart, Lennox Lewis.

02:27:38.000 Emanuel Stewart is a legend.

02:27:40.000 Wasn't really a great boxer himself, wasn't a world champion.

02:27:43.000 There's a bunch of those people.

02:27:45.000 Teddy Atlas is another one. 0.98

02:27:47.000 I think that's one of the shitty things people say. 0.94

02:27:50.000 Those who do not, can't do it, teach it. 1.00

02:27:53.000 And it's like, fuck you! 1.00

02:27:55.000 No, it's not fair, dude. 1.00

02:27:56.000 It's not fair.

02:27:57.000 People have genetic advantages.

02:27:58.000 They have societal advantages, cultural advantages.

02:28:02.000 And some people just learn things and they're really good at teaching things.

02:28:05.000 There's a lot of those out there.

02:28:07.000 Go pee!

02:28:08.000 I'll be right back.

02:28:09.000 I'll be right back.

02:28:10.000 This is so fun.

02:28:11.000 I never want to do it.

02:28:13.000 Because move here.

02:28:14.000 We'll do it once a week.

02:28:15.000 Jesus.

02:28:16.000 I told you.

02:28:17.000 Let's make a deal, son.

02:28:19.000 Come on.

02:28:20.000 Let's make a deal.

02:28:21.000 I've become a production company, young Jamie.

02:28:24.000 If there's anything you like to get made, let me know.

02:28:26.000 I've got a list.

02:28:27.000 Oh, do you?

02:28:28.000 Yeah.

02:28:28.000 Good.

02:28:29.000 What about PullThatUpJamie.com?

02:28:31.000 Oh, that's not even yours.

02:28:32.000 No, they won't let me have it. 1.00

02:28:33.000 This son of a bitch, that Weinstein fella, who I love to death. 1.00

02:28:38.000 Eric, you can't own pull-that-up-jamie.com. 1.00

02:28:42.000 That's rude.

02:28:44.000 Squatter. 0.99

02:28:44.000 You're a squatter. 0.99

02:28:45.000 Come on, man. 0.89

02:28:46.000 Just because you're my friend.

02:28:48.000 Eminent domain.

02:28:49.000 On a domain.

02:28:50.000 But youngjamie.com is live.

02:28:53.000 It is.

02:28:53.000 And you can get all sorts of, like, alien abduction shirts, pullthatupjamie.com.

02:28:58.000 Those will be available again soon.

02:29:00.000 Pull it up.

02:29:00.000 You should sell t-shirts on your website that say, give Jamie back, pullthatupjamie.com.

02:29:08.000 And make them in a rainbow, so people have to agree with you.

02:29:12.000 No, make it in a rainbow, like a Napoleon Dynamite vote for Pedro shirt, but with a rainbow.

02:29:18.000 If you put the rainbow in, people think you support LGBT issues.

02:29:22.000 I was trying to make it an NFT. Even better.

02:29:26.000 I saw some interesting talks about that.

02:29:28.000 You guys are talking about Logan Paul's thing.

02:29:30.000 He isn't the reason, but he could arguably be a catalyst to why that got so popular over the last year.

02:29:36.000 NFTs?

02:29:37.000 Yeah, he sold $5 million worth of NFTs opening a box of Pokemon cards to people that were going to get those cards online.

02:29:45.000 And sold the moments of opening them.

02:29:47.000 Solid move.

02:29:47.000 Yeah, he made a lot of money just doing that.

02:29:49.000 Good for him.

02:29:50.000 I like him.

02:29:51.000 Innovator.

02:29:52.000 I told you I met him once in Hawaii.

02:29:54.000 He's really friendly.

02:29:56.000 You meet someone that doesn't mean anything and no one's paying attention, that's how you know who they are.

02:30:01.000 He's pretty friendly.

02:30:02.000 Really friendly.

02:30:03.000 Came up, touched my shoulder, I'm like, hey, what's up, man?

02:30:06.000 I was right after his fight with KSI. That's hilarious.

02:30:12.000 Did you shit all over the toilet like that guy shit on his friend's asshole? 1.00

02:30:17.000 You didn't shut the door, man. 1.00

02:30:18.000 These are soundproof doors.

02:30:20.000 I'll get it.

02:30:20.000 Jamie's gonna go.

02:30:21.000 Jamie's gotta go.

02:30:22.000 Jamie's gotta go.

02:30:24.000 I couldn't remember how to get out of here, man. 0.99

02:30:28.000 Yeah, it's a fucking maze, bro. 0.99

02:30:30.000 It's like a saw-level maze. 1.00

02:30:32.000 This is all designed by those military motherfuckers to protect me. 1.00

02:30:35.000 Yeah, that's... 1.00

02:30:36.000 You know, man, being friends with you, that is something I never...

02:30:40.000 Thinking about what would come...

02:30:42.000 I never thought, he's gonna have special forces type people guarding him.

02:30:48.000 As long as I keep being me, that's the balance.

02:30:53.000 The balance is...

02:30:55.000 Never stop being you.

02:30:57.000 If you can figure out how to balance your life out, never stop being you.

02:31:02.000 And the way I've done that the best...

02:31:05.000 Give me that joint over there.

02:31:07.000 This one?

02:31:07.000 That one, yeah.

02:31:08.000 This one, something happened.

02:31:10.000 This one got wet.

02:31:11.000 The way I figured out how to do it the best is just keep being me.

02:31:15.000 Just keep being me.

02:31:16.000 It's not...

02:31:18.000 It seems hard to do, but it's just because it's hard to do normally.

02:31:23.000 And it's hard to do mostly because too many people are paying attention to what you're doing, they're mad at you.

02:31:27.000 If you just figure out a way to just be yourself all the time, then figure out a way to just be the best person you could be.

02:31:33.000 It can be done.

02:31:34.000 But who schedules the guards?

02:31:36.000 Like, do you have someone who like...

02:31:37.000 Easy bro.

02:31:38.000 On the air.

02:31:40.000 How do you find them?

02:31:41.000 You have people around you that are like, I like them because it's like you...

02:31:45.000 Hey, hey, hey, we're on the air.

02:31:47.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

02:31:48.000 You just said you had...

02:31:50.000 You said you had guards.

02:31:51.000 I know, but you're getting specific.

02:31:53.000 Okay, well...

02:31:55.000 There's something magnetic about them. 1.00

02:31:57.000 Yeah, they're fucking elite soldiers. 0.96

02:32:01.000 But the point is, if you could just be yourself, And whatever's stopping you from being yourself, figure out how to control that and then be yourself again. 0.99

02:32:11.000 But don't give in to that thing and stop being yourself.

02:32:15.000 One of the main problems I've had with this podcast as it keeps growing is people expect me to be someone different now.

02:32:22.000 Yeah.

02:32:23.000 Because it reaches more people.

02:32:24.000 I'm like, you don't understand, like, that's how it reached more people in the first place.

02:32:27.000 And that's all I have to offer.

02:32:29.000 Okay, if I can't do that, look, I can talk to brilliant people and ask them the best questions I can ask them and try to provide you with an insight into how I'm looking at whatever particular weirdness I'm talking about on the podcast.

02:32:44.000 But I can't change just because a lot of people are watching, more people are going to complain.

02:32:48.000 That would fuck the whole thing up.

02:32:50.000 I can't do it.

02:32:50.000 What a terrifying predicament to find yourself in.

02:32:53.000 It's not that bad.

02:32:54.000 So, you know, it's a little...

02:32:56.000 It's like...

02:32:58.000 What's terrifying, bro?

02:32:59.000 What?

02:33:00.000 Is you don't have options.

02:33:02.000 You don't have things you can do.

02:33:04.000 Yeah.

02:33:05.000 Trying to find a way to make a living.

02:33:06.000 Those are real terrors.

02:33:08.000 Or you're living in a communist country that controls your actions. 0.79

02:33:11.000 Right.

02:33:12.000 Tell you what you can't say.

02:33:14.000 I mean, people criticize me.

02:33:15.000 Like, here's the thing about cancel culture, right?

02:33:18.000 A lot of it is like people looking at what they think of...

02:33:22.000 Cancel culture reacts differently on different individuals, just like a lot of things do.

02:33:27.000 And if you're in a situation where you can get fired, right?

02:33:30.000 Like you're working for a major network, and if you get criticized, you do something terrible, and a bunch of other people chime in, and then other people can lose their jobs, right?

02:33:38.000 Like different people that are directors or executives or like...

02:33:42.000 It's a different thing.

02:33:44.000 You just gotta, if you're doing something creative, you gotta figure out a way to get to a position where you can be independent.

02:33:51.000 Right.

02:33:52.000 That you have to.

02:33:53.000 Well, you have to, like, I think...

02:33:58.000 It's almost not their fault if they're mad at you, if they're trying to mold you, if their mortgage depends on it.

02:34:04.000 It's all set up in a weird way.

02:34:06.000 People think it should be cooperative.

02:34:10.000 I mean, it kind of should be, but maybe not.

02:34:13.000 Here's the thing. 1.00

02:34:13.000 It's like, you do your shit, I'll do mine. 1.00

02:34:15.000 And when it comes to someone expressing their self about the nature of the world they see, It's really important, if you want to resonate with people, that you come with no pretense. 1.00

02:34:26.000 You come with no filter.

02:34:27.000 You might be wrong. 1.00

02:34:28.000 You might sound stupid. 1.00

02:34:30.000 You might say something, and the next day you're driving, and you're like, why the fuck did I say it that way? 1.00

02:34:34.000 Like, you don't even know. 0.99

02:34:35.000 I don't know what the fuck the next word out of my mouth is right now as I'm talking to you, right? 0.99

02:34:40.000 We don't know. 0.98

02:34:41.000 This is what we're doing, right?

02:34:43.000 And while we're doing this thing, we got to acknowledge that it's a weird touch-and-go situation.

02:34:49.000 Touch and go!

02:34:50.000 I can't believe you said that.

02:34:52.000 That's what my teacher's teacher used to say about meditation.

02:34:56.000 Yes, touch and go, which is like the way we relate with our thoughts is so funny you would say that.

02:35:02.000 So the idea is like when you're meditating, the way I meditate, there's a lot of ways about it.

02:35:08.000 The way I meditate is you put your attention on your breath and then when you find yourself lost in thoughts, you go thinking.

02:35:16.000 And return your attention to your breath.

02:35:17.000 So this is basic mindfulness meditation, but the idea is you're not suppressing...

02:35:23.000 So in other words, if all of a sudden I'm thinking about some vivid memory from when I was six that I haven't had, it's not like you're like...

02:35:31.000 Thinking!

02:35:32.000 Back to your breath.

02:35:33.000 Like you're scared or you're running away or trying to stop it.

02:35:36.000 It's touch and go, meaning like, no, that's there.

02:35:39.000 Be with it.

02:35:40.000 But then thinking and back to your breath.

02:35:42.000 Touch and go.

02:35:43.000 So it gets compared to the way butterflies land on flowers.

02:35:48.000 It's like you're there, but then you go.

02:35:50.000 You're not stuck to it is all.

02:35:52.000 Touch and go.

02:35:53.000 That's a cool thing that you just said, man.

02:35:54.000 Well, all random interactions that you can't predict are chaos.

02:35:59.000 We're good to go.

02:36:20.000 And you're trying to like wrestle your way through this weird conversation depending upon a lot of factors.

02:36:26.000 Maybe you got a ticket on the way over there.

02:36:27.000 Maybe you haven't slept right.

02:36:30.000 Yeah, who knows?

02:36:31.000 Maybe you aren't taking your vitamins. 1.00

02:36:33.000 Who knows what the fuck is wrong with you? 0.99

02:36:34.000 This is intention. 0.99

02:36:36.000 This is where intention comes in because it's like some people you will sit down with To get you to dance.

02:36:56.000 We're going to have a dance-off.

02:36:57.000 Yeah!

02:36:58.000 It's like intention, man.

02:36:59.000 And it's hard because it's confusing.

02:37:03.000 People don't want to acknowledge the reality.

02:37:06.000 Sometimes people can have a legitimate intention to help, but they're a little confused. 0.99

02:37:12.000 And so the shit gets mixed up. 0.94

02:37:13.000 And so what ends up happening is something that, in the moment, if you freeze that moment in time, And lay that as the only reality of what this person is. 1.00

02:37:23.000 Oh my god, you've got a monster, friends.

02:37:26.000 But if you recognize this is a process, you're looking at like a process.

02:37:31.000 This is one part of a process that maybe, I know you don't believe this, but I do, extends through lifetimes.

02:37:38.000 I don't not believe it.

02:37:40.000 I'm glad to hear that.

02:37:42.000 Yeah, no, I don't.

02:37:44.000 I'm less convinced every day that I have any idea.

02:37:49.000 I do not believe it, but I don't believe it.

02:37:51.000 It's irrelevant.

02:37:53.000 The problem with, like, right now, the problem is, like, people are getting confused regarding their identity.

02:37:58.000 So people are beginning to think their identity is a singular thing, and they're not willing to admit that they're a process.

02:38:04.000 And so it's fundamentally, like, disastrous to Imagine this is the case, you know, it's like you look at a tree, you're seeing the process of a seed. 0.98

02:38:15.000 That's not a tree, that's a river of molecules flowing into time that looks like a fucking tree. 0.99

02:38:22.000 It used to be a seed that a bird shit out and it's like if you look at some of the most majestic trees and imagine that at some point that was in like a crow's asshole. 1.00

02:38:32.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:38:33.000 It's like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:38:35.000 But this is a process. 0.99

02:38:37.000 So I think the problem right now is we gotta acknowledge that we're all a process.

02:38:43.000 And if as part of that process, someone is manifesting aggressive traits that are fucking with society, the answer is not to imagine this is who this person is, but to recognize, oh, this is something you're going through right now.

02:39:00.000 This is a display right And also recognize you could be that person if you live their life.

02:39:06.000 Yes!

02:39:06.000 Exactly!

02:39:07.000 That's the problem.

02:39:08.000 The problem is determinism versus free will.

02:39:12.000 And I don't think either one of them are absolute, right?

02:39:17.000 Look, I mean, the whole determinism, free will thing, I've heard it described as absolute and relative reality.

02:39:23.000 It's easier to acknowledge that both simultaneously exist and try to imagine one over the other.

02:39:27.000 It's like, on one level, we're all who knows what.

02:39:31.000 If you zoom far enough out in the universe, we're clearly a holon or whatever.

02:39:37.000 But on another level- A holon?

02:39:39.000 Oh, yeah, the totality of a thing.

02:39:41.000 I think that's called a holon.

02:39:43.000 Really?

02:39:43.000 Yeah, H-O-L-O-N. Could be wrong.

02:39:45.000 Jamie, please look it up so I don't get like a million tweets correcting me about my mis-fucking communication of a word. 0.98

02:39:50.000 That's a dope word. 0.90

02:39:52.000 I've never heard that word.

02:39:53.000 Holon. 0.92

02:39:53.000 Could be wrong about that, though. 0.92

02:39:54.000 Yeah, could be wrong.

02:39:56.000 God, I hope I'm not wrong.

02:39:57.000 It sounds super similar to when, like, Hawaiians get mad at white people.

02:40:01.000 It's a city in Israel, so it's not that.

02:40:04.000 Philosophy, correct?

02:40:06.000 So it says it's something that is simultaneously a hole in and of itself, as well as part of a larger hole.

02:40:11.000 A hole on.

02:40:12.000 So at some point we're a hole on.

02:40:14.000 Another point...

02:40:15.000 That's a dope word.

02:40:16.000 There's a Joe and there's a Duncan, and these two things are happening simultaneously.

02:40:19.000 So they both can happen simultaneously.

02:40:22.000 So this is called relative reality and absolute reality.

02:40:25.000 And we have to accept that Both exist. 0.61

02:40:28.000 Well, not just both exist, dude, but when you talk...

02:40:30.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson told me that he thinks that there are infinite universes and there's infinite Duncans doing infinite things.

02:40:38.000 Yeah.

02:40:38.000 Not he thinks.

02:40:39.000 He didn't even say he thinks.

02:40:41.000 I'm phrasing it wrong.

02:40:42.000 M-theory.

02:40:42.000 He was explaining to me this theory of infinity.

02:40:46.000 Yeah.

02:40:46.000 That not only is there a you, but there's a you who's done everything you've done.

02:40:50.000 Yeah.

02:40:50.000 And then there's a you who's slightly deviated from that path.

02:40:54.000 Yeah.

02:40:54.000 Infinite numbers of times.

02:40:56.000 Yeah.

02:40:56.000 And there's another that's slightly deviated from that.

02:40:58.000 It's impossible to imagine the numbers that are involved.

02:41:03.000 Dude, it's not impossible to imagine.

02:41:04.000 Go to the airport and look around.

02:41:06.000 That's all you.

02:41:08.000 That's all different versions of you and different lives doing different things.

02:41:13.000 It's all you.

02:41:14.000 You don't need to go any further than your local target and take a look around at the multiverse.

02:41:20.000 It's true!

02:41:22.000 That's what pains us so about homeless people.

02:41:26.000 We realize that could be us.

02:41:28.000 If you're honest with yourself.

02:41:29.000 If you're honest with yourself.

02:41:30.000 If you were that kid who became that abused person in a shelter at 14, who became that kid on the street at 16, who is now in a tent by the lake.

02:41:42.000 Why?

02:41:43.000 Why? 1.00

02:41:44.000 Because he's a loser? 1.00

02:41:45.000 Is that really what it is? 0.98

02:41:47.000 Helping people by telling them that they can camp out, that's not enough.

02:41:52.000 That's like, at least you're not... 0.97

02:41:54.000 But the problem is they want to be closer to all the shit that's happening. 0.90

02:41:57.000 But you can't just take over ground. 0.97

02:42:00.000 Because other people say, no, where you're camping, I've decided since it's a sidewalk you're using, I'm going to build a fort.

02:42:06.000 And they just build a fort on that sidewalk. 1.00

02:42:07.000 You can't put shit... 0.99

02:42:09.000 If you can't have a tent, you can't have a house. 0.99

02:42:11.000 If you can't have a house, you can't have a tent.

02:42:12.000 Okay?

02:42:13.000 No.

02:42:13.000 You can't just put tents everywhere.

02:42:15.000 But it doesn't mean that you don't understand that these people that got here, somehow or another, they got fucked over. 0.92

02:42:19.000 But I think you... 0.99

02:42:21.000 Life fucked them over, right? 0.92

02:42:22.000 You want to understand how beautiful humans are right now. 0.96

02:42:26.000 Because you realize, like, in the human spirit is a thing that is like, all right, I guess I'll let you put your tent there.

02:42:36.000 Because I don't want to, like, impinge on your life.

02:42:40.000 I want them to feel better.

02:42:42.000 It's okay, man.

02:42:43.000 Put your tent down.

02:42:44.000 Yes!

02:42:44.000 So you look at that and, like, subtract everything other than that Feeling in a person which is like I know you're me and I know you're me in a different timeline and so I'm gonna I guess I'm gonna I'm gonna trust the process and let you do this thing and then you get this collision between that and the other versions of you who are on the same timeline or on a different timeline that are like I Yeah,

02:43:10.000 but that's where my business is.

02:43:12.000 And so now you have these two colliding possibilities and we don't know how to deal with it yet.

02:43:18.000 We don't know what to do.

02:43:19.000 It's so brutal because on one side you have the most incredible, the heart of Christ, the deepest compassion, which is you or me.

02:43:30.000 When Jesus says, love your neighbor as yourself, He doesn't mean pretend that you were in your neighbor's shoes.

02:43:36.000 He literally means those are you.

02:43:39.000 Your neighbor is you.

02:43:41.000 You should love your neighbor because they are you.

02:43:43.000 Love your neighbor as yourself.

02:43:44.000 That's you.

02:43:45.000 So now, if suddenly we're dealing with this reality, What are we going to do, Joe?

02:43:52.000 Because now it's like, yeah, great.

02:43:54.000 You have this incredible podcast and you have achieved this amazing apex in this little period of human culture that we're in.

02:44:03.000 But it's like, what about all the non-news?

02:44:06.000 Especially the ones who are camping out.

02:44:08.000 You know what I mean?

02:44:08.000 Now what are we going to do?

02:44:10.000 If you look at things like that, which is actually...

02:44:14.000 This guy Bob Thurman, Uma Thurman's dad, he's this incredible Buddhist scholar who's explaining this to me.

02:44:19.000 Really?

02:44:19.000 Uma Thurman's dad?

02:44:21.000 Is the most...

02:44:22.000 Is a Buddhist scholar?

02:44:22.000 One of the Dalai Lama's best friends.

02:44:24.000 Whoa.

02:44:25.000 Oh my God, he runs Tibet House, and I met him, he is...

02:44:29.000 Such the coolest person you've ever met.

02:44:31.000 What did he say?

02:44:33.000 So he said the idea is like when in compassion or in thinking of other people, and God, I'm sorry, Bob Thurman, if I'm misquoting you or something, this is how I remember it.

02:44:42.000 It's not like I'm looking at you and thinking, God, what if I was in that person's shoes?

02:44:46.000 It's like you're looking at them and thinking, that's me.

02:44:50.000 I'm looking at me.

02:44:52.000 That's me.

02:44:53.000 I am them.

02:44:54.000 This is me.

02:44:55.000 And so in this mindset, this is where you start making decisions.

02:44:59.000 And so it's radical and wild because it's not like you do the thing where you're like, God, it'd be rough to be in that person's situation as me.

02:45:07.000 You're thinking, I'm looking at me right now.

02:45:10.000 In different circumstances.

02:45:12.000 Exactly.

02:45:12.000 And so that's how real compassion starts appearing.

02:45:15.000 That's real compassion. 0.99

02:45:17.000 Now you're like, oh fuck, that's me. 0.99

02:45:19.000 I must help. 0.99

02:45:21.000 I'm going to help.

02:45:21.000 And that's all that ends up happening.

02:45:24.000 You know, we look at these people who we call saints and we're like, oh god, they're saints.

02:45:27.000 But really what happened is they clicked into that reality and couldn't click back out.

02:45:32.000 And all that was left was like, I'm just going to help.

02:45:34.000 All that's left to do is to help.

02:45:36.000 I'm just going to help.

02:45:37.000 It's all me.

02:45:38.000 Well, that's what we've got to get across.

02:45:41.000 That everybody is you living another life.

02:45:45.000 If we can just come to grips with that and have some sort of...

02:45:50.000 But here's the thing.

02:45:51.000 You can disagree with someone if it's you living another life, but if you really felt like it was you living another life and you're talking to them, you would have more compassion than they were. 1.00

02:46:04.000 If they were some random asshole. 1.00

02:46:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:46:07.000 You would have more compassion.

02:46:08.000 And maybe you'd be able to calm them down.

02:46:10.000 Because we all know that every single escalation that people have with each other is usually based on two people.

02:46:17.000 It's like maybe one person takes it too far, one person gets loud, or one person gets physical.

02:46:22.000 But I think in many situations, and I'm not blaming the victim, but I'm saying in many situations, a lot of...

02:46:30.000 Interactions between people is dependent upon two humans.

02:46:35.000 And how this human approaches this human changes how they are and how they react is a little dance they do. 1.00

02:46:42.000 And some people are not tolerating any bullshit and they just want to hit you in the face right away. 0.99

02:46:46.000 And it's not your fault if you run into one of those people. 1.00

02:46:50.000 But they're reacting to probably a lifetime of being punched in the face, right?

02:46:54.000 That's why they just want to start swinging on you.

02:46:56.000 Yeah!

02:46:57.000 Yes!

02:46:58.000 If you were them, but it's hard for us.

02:47:02.000 We're always looking at other human beings like, this guy's going to hurt me, or he's going to steal, or she's going to take, and this person's going to do something bad to me.

02:47:10.000 They might.

02:47:10.000 Right.

02:47:11.000 But if we could get across the idea that we're all the same thing, exactly, living different versions, Of the same life.

02:47:20.000 Like literally, the life is a thing, and the life goes through different personalities, like a river goes through creeks, right?

02:47:29.000 Like the ocean filters into a river, and it goes through creeks.

02:47:34.000 That's what the life does, and the life does this with...

02:47:37.000 With all different colors and races and sexual orientations and proclivities and hobbies and intellect levels and it just goes through all those things.

02:47:49.000 And the key is recognizing that at the core of who you are is the same thing as the core of everybody else.

02:47:57.000 It's just that thing is powering different meat vehicles with different personalities and different loyalties to states.

02:48:06.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:48:07.000 And different fucking hobbies and things that they like to do and different shields they put up to protect themselves. 0.99

02:48:14.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

02:48:14.000 This is it. 0.99

02:48:15.000 And a lot of people are like, so what do you do?

02:48:18.000 You just let someone- You vote Democrat only.

02:48:20.000 You start doing ketamine.

02:48:22.000 You get on the roof. 1.00

02:48:24.000 You put a magnet on your dick and hope you get struck by lightning. 1.00

02:48:27.000 I'm going to vote for the second of those three possibilities. 1.00

02:48:35.000 What you just described by the way, it's such a beautiful reality and it's hard for people to understand that a lot of people feel very defensive when they hear a thing like that.

02:48:47.000 Why do they feel defensive you think?

02:48:49.000 Well because the problem is that there's a narrative happening right now and the narrative generally involves some form of Overcoming another person.

02:49:03.000 So it's like, what's that thing I think Voltaire said?

02:49:07.000 Not that I should succeed, but that my friend should fail.

02:49:11.000 Right.

02:49:11.000 You know what I mean?

02:49:12.000 It's built into the ethic.

02:49:14.000 Yes.

02:49:14.000 And so a lot of people who've invested their entire lives in a perceived being better than this person or that person, they've put a lot of energy into Into a really horrific mode of existence that isn't really making them happy.

02:49:29.000 But I think that's one of the big secrets.

02:49:32.000 People will have great achievements and then they'll find themselves in this weird enclave of other people who have all these great achievements.

02:49:42.000 And at the end of the day, God, I said at the end of the day, I hate that saying, but literally at the end of the day, they feel so sad and empty and lonely and broken and numb, but they don't want to say it out loud.

02:49:55.000 Do you know what it's like?

02:49:56.000 What?

02:49:57.000 If you don't exactly know where the road is, And you're in the desert?

02:50:03.000 Yeah.

02:50:04.000 And there's some faint roads to the left, maybe some brush in the way, and faint roads to the right, but one road eventually has asphalt.

02:50:13.000 Yeah.

02:50:13.000 You might take the wrong road.

02:50:15.000 Yeah.

02:50:15.000 You might go left.

02:50:16.000 You might be 45 degrees away from the real road. 0.99

02:50:19.000 And you're like heading towards the mountain and you realize you fucked up. 0.99

02:50:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:50:22.000 And if you turn around, it's all dusty. 0.99

02:50:24.000 You got to wait till the dust settles.

02:50:26.000 You're not exactly sure which way you turn left or right or right or left.

02:50:29.000 You got to kind of remember it backwards.

02:50:31.000 Yes. 1.00

02:50:31.000 Just trying to bring yourself back to the spot because you fucked up. 1.00

02:50:34.000 You took the wrong road. 0.99

02:50:34.000 You don't want to admit it. 0.99

02:50:35.000 You don't want to admit it because you're a proud person.

02:50:37.000 Because your dad told you, suck it up, Duncan.

02:50:40.000 You don't ever admit you took a wrong turn.

02:50:42.000 Ever. 1.00

02:50:43.000 I don't give a fuck if that lady has that goddamn map. 1.00

02:50:47.000 Put the fucking map away, woman. 1.00

02:50:50.000 I'm flying by my gonads. 1.00

02:50:52.000 We're driving into this fucking mountain! 1.00

02:50:55.000 Yes. 1.00

02:50:56.000 I'm using my north compass.

02:50:59.000 I have many Buddhist teachers I love.

02:51:02.000 One of them is called Sharon Salzberg.

02:51:04.000 I repeat this saying she has to myself every other day, which is, the healing is in the return.

02:51:11.000 Meaning that if you fucked up for 50 years straight and you've been making the wrong decision every day for 50 years and your ego has become so invested in this pattern that you're stuck, what she's saying is all those 50 years of going off track, 0.98

02:51:31.000 the moment that you admit it and you're like, oh fuck, that was wrong, that was not the way I want to be, and go back to where you were at It's the most glorious reunion with a you that you forgot even existed. 0.99

02:51:48.000 Let me ask you this. 0.92

02:51:52.000 How do you extend that to people that have done horrific things?

02:51:57.000 How do you extend that to genocide?

02:51:59.000 To Hitler. 0.90

02:51:59.000 Yeah. 0.90

02:52:01.000 Could you imagine a world where Hitler's forgiven? 0.98

02:52:05.000 I just had this brilliant guy, Neil Allen.

02:52:07.000 Don't answer this.

02:52:08.000 This is going to get you in real trouble.

02:52:10.000 Either way.

02:52:11.000 No, I just had this brilliant guy, Neil Allen.

02:52:14.000 I'm going to pee again.

02:52:14.000 I'm so embarrassed.

02:52:16.000 Let me finish this thought.

02:52:17.000 Neil Allen on my podcast, very, very, very smart.

02:52:20.000 He gave this exact example with Hitler. 0.74

02:52:23.000 Oh.

02:52:24.000 I'm a hack.

02:52:24.000 You look at Hitler.

02:52:26.000 No, you don't listen to my podcast.

02:52:27.000 But it's a hack moment.

02:52:28.000 My point is you look at Hitler and you realize that the idea is like the time travel thing. 0.68

02:52:34.000 You go back in time.

02:52:34.000 You're afraid of Hitler.

02:52:36.000 You look at Hitler and you recognize with Hitler, this is me. 0.99

02:52:39.000 If I had gotten in the worst kind of fucking life, I could have been this. 1.00

02:52:43.000 And then, knowing that's you, you shoot him in the fucking face! 1.00

02:52:48.000 Because that's the right thing to do. 1.00

02:52:50.000 If you're on an airplane, and someone's like, I'm getting into the cockpit to fly us to the Hollow Earth!

02:52:57.000 You can look at that.

02:52:59.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:00.000 Did you see the new King Kong?

02:53:02.000 Are you kidding? 1.00

02:53:03.000 I love Hollow Earth shit. 1.00

02:53:04.000 And of course I saw the new King Kong. 0.99

02:53:06.000 My point is, you look at that person and you look at them and you're like, that could be me if I'd eat more edibles before this plane took off.

02:53:15.000 But that doesn't mean you're like, so go in the cockpit.

02:53:17.000 Let's go to the hollow earth.

02:53:18.000 You stop them.

02:53:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:53:21.000 So we can have compassion and realism and justice simultaneously.

02:53:27.000 The two things don't have to be completely separate things.

02:53:30.000 I'm sorry, I know you have to piss.

02:53:31.000 No, you're 100% right.

02:53:33.000 That's a really good point.

02:53:34.000 It's very good.

02:53:35.000 But it just like...

02:53:36.000 I think all this is dependent, like the reason why these conflicts exist, like what you're just talking about, is dependent upon whether or not people have embraced the idea that we're all the same thing.

02:53:48.000 If we embrace the idea that we're all the same thing, if we could just figure out a way to use that and just put it in the back of your head.

02:53:55.000 Yeah.

02:53:56.000 Write it down and stick it in your wallet.

02:53:59.000 Yeah.

02:53:59.000 Just write that.

02:54:00.000 Write that, we are all the same thing.

02:54:02.000 We are all living Different lives, with the same thing, living different lives.

02:54:08.000 If you could meet a person on the street and think about them, and don't get mugged doing this, then blame me. 0.99

02:54:15.000 Joe Rogan said, pretend that that dude's the same as you, and he fucking kicked me in the dick and stole my watch. 0.99

02:54:22.000 I'm sorry, okay? 1.00

02:54:25.000 Don't listen to me.

02:54:26.000 I don't want to give advice.

02:54:28.000 Maybe I should stop framing things in the way of advice.

02:54:30.000 Maybe that's my problem.

02:54:32.000 Yes!

02:54:37.000 Duncan, when are the UFOs landing?

02:54:40.000 Come on, man.

02:54:42.000 If you knew, would you tell me?

02:54:45.000 Yeah.

02:54:45.000 Would you really?

02:54:46.000 Would you do it over the phone?

02:54:48.000 Or would you tell me to put my phone in a bucket and walk into a lead room?

02:54:53.000 You're being so funny.

02:54:55.000 You know that if I knew, like if I some avenue, I got actual information about the UFOs.

02:55:03.000 Right.

02:55:04.000 You know that within, like, as soon as I could get a place away from the people that told me that I'd be calling you.

02:55:09.000 Yeah, but you would get real nervous, man.

02:55:10.000 You'd think I'm working with the feds.

02:55:11.000 I don't care!

02:55:12.000 You'd give me the look.

02:55:13.000 Dude, if you're working for the...

02:55:14.000 I don't care.

02:55:15.000 I don't care. 0.99

02:55:16.000 Like, to me, that's what's great about friendship is it transcends all that shit. 0.99

02:55:20.000 If you... 0.99

02:55:22.000 I know.

02:55:22.000 I would tell you first.

02:55:24.000 I would tell you first.

02:55:24.000 You know I'd tell you first.

02:55:25.000 I would tell you right away.

02:55:25.000 I'd call you right away.

02:55:26.000 Dude, you're not gonna fucking believe what I know for sure. 0.98

02:55:29.000 I might have to get a fake phone to call you. 1.00

02:55:30.000 Dude, I'd be calling you from a fucking 7-Eleven phone. 1.00

02:55:33.000 He's supposed to be like, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:55:35.000 You don't know anything about the UFOs. 1.00

02:55:40.000 Dude, I want to believe so bad I don't trust myself.

02:55:44.000 I don't trust myself, Duncan.

02:55:47.000 Dude, I just had my friend Jason Louv on the show, because I'm trying to get him to talk about aliens.

02:55:53.000 He's so smart, and he's getting into, it's probably a distraction, but every once in a while he's saying to me, do you want to believe, Duncan?

02:56:01.000 Yes!

02:56:01.000 I want to believe!

02:56:02.000 I do want to believe!

02:56:04.000 But you know what?

02:56:04.000 Here's the thing.

02:56:05.000 With the alien shit, I got annoyed. 0.99

02:56:07.000 Someone on Twitter sent me a message because I guess some leak came out and they're like, it's not aliens. 1.00

02:56:12.000 And someone sent me a message saying, see, it's not aliens.

02:56:16.000 No, that was a really poorly titled article.

02:56:21.000 That's all that was.

02:56:22.000 Now, I shouldn't say poorly titled, but they just did it because that was like the best way of...

02:56:29.000 Getting people to click on it.

02:56:31.000 Yeah, whatever.

02:56:31.000 If you just say something's not aliens, people will click on it.

02:56:34.000 What?

02:56:34.000 What is it?

02:56:35.000 But here's the thing. 0.99

02:56:36.000 I don't care who the fuck is making that thing. 1.00

02:56:41.000 Making that thing. 1.00

02:56:42.000 Right.

02:56:42.000 I care that it exists.

02:56:43.000 Exactly.

02:56:44.000 That's all that matters.

02:56:45.000 Thank you.

02:56:45.000 So that's it.

02:56:46.000 That's real.

02:56:47.000 Wait, here's what's real.

02:56:48.000 Something went 80,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet above sea level in less than a second.

02:56:54.000 Yes! 0.99

02:56:54.000 This is all tracked by multiple sources, including the best weapons system the fucking Navy has to offer. 0.99

02:57:02.000 And you've got commanders like a guy like David Fravor, who is literally a Top-notch fighter jet pilot who has a deep understanding of these weapon systems, and they're locking in on this thing that looks like a Tic Tac, and it zooms away at what they estimate be thousands of miles an hour. 0.99

02:57:20.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:57:22.000 You don't think that's bananas? 1.00

02:57:24.000 Who?

02:57:24.000 I don't care.

02:57:25.000 What is the urge to dismiss?

02:57:28.000 That?

02:57:29.000 Yeah.

02:57:30.000 Like when you get a guy like a David Fravor, who's like, he's never told another story like that since.

02:57:35.000 He says the guys that he was working with had seen multiple things just like that for a couple of weeks.

02:57:42.000 It wasn't a unique thing.

02:57:44.000 It was just like, he went face to face with it.

02:57:46.000 That's what they were saying.

02:57:48.000 Bro, you gotta listen to him on the Lex Friedman podcast.

02:57:51.000 Lex does a fucking amazing job because they go deep into all sorts of aviation talk.

02:57:58.000 So all this talk about how to fly these things and the weapon systems and Lex does AI, right? 0.92

02:58:07.000 He used to do it for MIT and he has the Lex Friedman podcast.

02:58:11.000 He's brilliant.

02:58:11.000 I've heard of him.

02:58:12.000 I don't know much about him.

02:58:13.000 I gotta put you guys together.

02:58:14.000 He's brilliant.

02:58:14.000 But the point is they're talking and so he understands this kind of crazy super technical lingo and he indulges David Fravor in this explanation of the weapon systems that they use and the visual systems and all the different things that can shuttle back and forth between different sources.

02:58:31.000 It's wild shit, dude! 0.97

02:58:33.000 So people that don't understand that and never heard that guy talk about those things, they don't understand how I gotcha. 1.00

02:58:39.000 Specifically, they know this thing moved off at thousands of miles an hour instantaneously with no visible means of propulsion.

02:58:46.000 I gotcha. 0.97

02:58:46.000 So a lot of people, they see these fucking videos that have been verified by the Pentagon and they dismiss them. 0.97

02:58:54.000 And they dismiss them because they're like, Look at it! 0.99

02:58:56.000 It's griny!

02:58:57.000 You could have done a better video than that!

02:59:00.000 And they don't understand the technology behind what picked that up at all.

02:59:06.000 Exactly.

02:59:06.000 Like, the fact that we picked that up at all is insane.

02:59:09.000 Pitch black at night, you know, miles away.

02:59:12.000 Right.

02:59:13.000 That's less than HD. It's not real.

02:59:16.000 Look at that.

02:59:17.000 Some of it is night vision, like those little pyramid things that were flying over those things.

02:59:20.000 It was in night vision.

02:59:21.000 Night vision.

02:59:21.000 Some of them, they're in infrared.

02:59:24.000 I can send you this one thing, Jamie, because there's this one guy who does a really good job of this. 0.98

02:59:30.000 There's one guy that Jeremy Corbell sent me, and this guy does a really good job of explaining why there's no way that these things, whatever the fuck they are, could be like a goose. 0.94

02:59:44.000 Like people have called... 0.98

02:59:45.000 A goose?

02:59:46.000 Yeah, like people have said, like, maybe it's a goose.

02:59:48.000 And this guy who is a fighter pilot...

02:59:51.000 Like a goose?

02:59:53.000 What?

02:59:53.000 Like goose?

02:59:55.000 Geese are going out to aircraft carriers and harassing them?

02:59:58.000 Listen, man, people love to believe, whether they believe this way or that way.

03:00:04.000 They don't necessarily want to believe in the truth.

03:00:08.000 A lot of times they do, and a lot of times maybe they're like 80% right.

03:00:12.000 Yeah.

03:00:13.000 But they're clinging to this idea that the left is the way.

03:00:18.000 And maybe sometimes you got to go right.

03:00:20.000 And maybe sometimes you got to recognize like, yeah, you're right.

03:00:23.000 A lot of this stuff is nonsense.

03:00:25.000 A lot of this stuff is hoaxers.

03:00:27.000 A lot of this stuff is delusional people.

03:00:29.000 A lot of this stuff is people seeing Venus and not understanding what they're looking at. 0.96

03:00:33.000 But a lot of this stuff doesn't make any fucking sense.

03:00:35.000 When they have multiple sources, radar, they're tracking these things on weapon systems on two different jets. 0.97

03:00:43.000 Like, this is banana stuff, dude.

03:00:45.000 This is something with no visible means of propulsion. 0.99

03:00:48.000 You have a fucking Air Force pilot who never in a million years wanted to be on camera, who just likes flying those crazy- Or do we? 0.99

03:00:59.000 Maybe it's an android, Joe. 1.00

03:01:01.000 You are useful idiots. 1.00

03:01:02.000 It could be an android. 1.00

03:01:03.000 Maybe he's not even a real person.

03:01:04.000 Well, it could be an android.

03:01:05.000 This is the guy.

03:01:06.000 This is the guy.

03:01:07.000 And he's basically explaining how sophisticated and complicated these systems are.

03:01:12.000 And one of the things he used, if it was not on this video, it was on another.

03:01:16.000 He said catching one of those things on one of these weapon systems just randomly without any other input, whether it's radar or any communications from something else, would be like finding a person, Through a straw.

03:01:30.000 Wow.

03:01:30.000 Like, trying to, like, find...

03:01:32.000 Yeah.

03:01:33.000 Spot something through a straw.

03:01:35.000 Like, you're just looking at the random sky.

03:01:37.000 Like, they have to lock onto these things.

03:01:39.000 I have to pee again.

03:01:40.000 Me too.

03:01:41.000 So what do we do there?

03:01:42.000 Should we end this?

03:01:42.000 Yeah!

03:01:42.000 It's kind of late.

03:01:43.000 It's 7.23 already.

03:01:45.000 We've already done three hours, right?

03:01:47.000 That's so weird, man.

03:01:48.000 Jesus Christ, we started at $3.20.

03:01:49.000 Thank you.

03:01:50.000 $4.20.

03:01:51.000 This is perfect because we don't extend our welcome, overextend our welcome.

03:01:55.000 Yeah.

03:01:56.000 Catch a buzz, get some food.

03:01:58.000 Duncan, you're the best.

03:01:59.000 You're the best.

03:02:00.000 And we'll start our once-a-week show in September.

03:02:04.000 Yeah, you know, I was already coming here anyway because I have to work on some standouts.

03:02:08.000 That's what I'm saying.

03:02:09.000 So that's what we do.

03:02:10.000 Yes.

03:02:11.000 We'll do it like a month.

03:02:12.000 Any time you want to come down here, Duncan.

03:02:15.000 Let's do it like a month of regular podcast so people get so sick of it.

03:02:20.000 Yeah, just do it once a month.

03:02:21.000 Come back once a month.

03:02:22.000 Yeah.

03:02:23.000 Once every two months.

03:02:25.000 I'm gonna come for a month straight.

03:02:28.000 Whoa, that's dangerous.

03:02:28.000 And then let's do once a week.

03:02:30.000 Are you gonna Airbnb?

03:02:31.000 If you do, don't use Tim Dillon as a reference.

03:02:34.000 They don't like him.

03:02:34.000 Are you joking?

03:02:35.000 He fucks up Airbnbs? 0.98

03:02:37.000 No, no, no. 1.00

03:02:38.000 He talks shit about this one couple, this lesbian couple that owns, in my opinion, a fucking dope house. 1.00

03:02:45.000 And they kicked him off of Airbnb. 1.00

03:02:47.000 Dude, I'm sorry, but if you get kicked off Airbnb, that's crazy!

03:02:51.000 Bro, Tim Dillon's a savage!

03:02:52.000 That's brutal, though! 0.99

03:02:53.000 Tim Dillon is a savage. 0.78

03:02:54.000 He'll be fine. 0.72

03:02:55.000 But getting kicked off Airbnb is rough.

03:02:56.000 That's rough.

03:02:57.000 He'll find a way.

03:02:58.000 He can do that other one.

03:02:59.000 Vermal.

03:02:59.000 Whatever he does.

03:03:00.000 Listen.

03:03:01.000 There's a new Airbnb.

03:03:02.000 It's called Vermal.

03:03:03.000 He only left dishes in the sink.

03:03:05.000 That wasn't the problem. 1.00

03:03:06.000 The problem was the shit-talking. 0.99

03:03:09.000 We gotta stop Airbnb. 1.00

03:03:11.000 Well, they have cameras everywhere.

03:03:11.000 Internet shares horror stories of rising fees, filthy homes, and scary hoes.

03:03:15.000 And, can I stop here? 0.98

03:03:17.000 Also, great experiences that nobody fucking writes in about. 0.99

03:03:20.000 Yeah, but if you're fucking an Airbnb, someone's watching. 0.99

03:03:23.000 If you're fucking an Airbnb, there's an 80% chance someone's watching that. 0.98

03:03:28.000 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for everything. 0.99

03:03:31.000 Duncan Trussell, Jamie Vernon, and Joe Rogan, signing out.

03:03:35.000 Hare Krishna!

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 11, 2021

Joe Rogan Experience #1666 - Duncan Trussell

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