The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1785 - Earthquake

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00:00:12.000 Alright.

00:00:12.000 Talk to me, Earthquake.

00:00:14.000 What's happening?

00:00:14.000 Hey, what's up, Joe?

00:00:15.000 Great to see you, man.

00:00:17.000 Thanks for having me, first of all.

00:00:18.000 My pleasure. 0.97

00:00:19.000 Listen, your special is fucking outstanding. 0.98

00:00:21.000 It is one of the best specials I've seen in a long time. 0.98

00:00:24.000 It's hard to laugh by yourself out loud on a phone.

00:00:27.000 When you're watching someone on a phone, I laughed hard.

00:00:30.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 It was great.

00:00:31.000 It's you.

00:00:32.000 It's like, you know, sometimes someone does a special and it's like, it's better seeing them live, but you captured it.

00:00:38.000 It was a journey.

00:00:40.000 It was the first time I was properly financed.

00:00:43.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:44.000 We wasn't borrowing money or had the right vehicle, properly supported by the distributors and everything.

00:00:54.000 It was the opportunity.

00:00:56.000 Then I knew the significance of it by Dave being a part of it, that this is the one I needed to elevate me to get off of this level that I'm on right now.

00:01:04.000 Well, we were talking about this before, but in my mind, your level in terms of your ability, you're already there.

00:01:11.000 You're one of the best comics alive.

00:01:13.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:01:15.000 So this is a great representative of that.

00:01:17.000 It's a great representation of that.

00:01:19.000 Because...

00:01:20.000 It's very rare that someone gets as good as you are that's not selling out arenas.

00:01:25.000 That's how good you are.

00:01:26.000 Well, thank you.

00:01:27.000 So it's exciting for me.

00:01:29.000 Yes, and I hope that you know it.

00:01:32.000 You're a comic, man.

00:01:33.000 You never know what's going to do it, what's going to generate.

00:01:36.000 I never had a problem with...

00:01:38.000 I never equated quantity with quality.

00:01:42.000 So when I seen people 15, 17, 18,000, I never felt inferior or bad that I had 2,000.

00:01:50.000 You know what I mean?

00:01:51.000 The work of it.

00:01:52.000 And then at the end of the day, to be quite honest with you, as a comic, you know, when you first get into it, you just want to make people laugh.

00:02:00.000 And I have achieved that.

00:02:01.000 So... 0.68

00:02:02.000 I had already felt that I was successful, but sometimes you do sit back like, God damn, when are they ever going to get to the ease? 0.97

00:02:09.000 They keep skipping me. 0.79

00:02:10.000 How long does it take?

00:02:12.000 I mean, because, you know, I said in my echo, the thing I'm saying, I've been the bridesmaid for so long and never the bride.

00:02:20.000 And watch all my friends just get TV shows and everything.

00:02:24.000 And like you said, I look at my friends and I see them.

00:02:28.000 Talent-wide, I don't feel it.

00:02:29.000 I just look at them and say they had an opportunity and they achieved.

00:02:34.000 And they won on it.

00:02:36.000 And they cashed in on it.

00:02:38.000 I have yet to have that opportunity to cash in, so that's what I'm looking for.

00:02:42.000 Well, the fact that Dave Chappelle's behind it and that Dave produced it and he introduces you at the beginning of the special, that's gigantic.

00:02:49.000 That's gonna help a lot.

00:02:50.000 But we've all been talking about you for years.

00:02:52.000 Everyone's terrified to follow you.

00:02:54.000 Everyone. 0.98

00:02:55.000 When we find out that you were at the Comedy Store, everybody's like, oh shit, where is he at in the lineup? 1.00

00:03:01.000 Fuck that spot. 1.00

00:03:02.000 That spot after you is not fun. 1.00

00:03:05.000 I mean, when you have nothing but your jokes, you gotta at least perfect that aspect of the career.

00:03:11.000 Well, you're a hustler, too.

00:03:12.000 You're always out there.

00:03:13.000 And the guys that are constantly working, there's a polish that you get when you're on the road and you're doing those Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, where you're just constantly doing sets.

00:03:22.000 There's an undeniable polish that a guy gets. 0.73

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 I mean, you there.

00:03:28.000 I call them the frontline workers.

00:03:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:30.000 Success takes you off the front line.

00:03:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:03:34.000 It does.

00:03:35.000 It keeps you from your fans to feel exact because we feed off the information that we get from our fans.

00:03:43.000 Yeah.

00:03:43.000 And if you're isolated with security or other things that you have to do or the enormous of your career, you kind of like get away from the people who are actually Support you.

00:03:57.000 And that's the key to me.

00:03:58.000 I always stay within my constituents some way.

00:04:02.000 Family member or somebody.

00:04:04.000 I take a young comedian on the road with me who I look up to and say he can make it.

00:04:11.000 And just allow him to be in the life, and I just watch what he do and what he going through, and that's how I keep my stuff.

00:04:17.000 Yeah, I do the same.

00:04:19.000 I do the same, and I also bring a lot of comedians to the shows that I do in town.

00:04:23.000 I bring open micers.

00:04:25.000 I have them go up.

00:04:26.000 I give them tips.

00:04:28.000 I give them good spots.

00:04:29.000 Let them try it out.

00:04:31.000 Give them rough spots sometimes after someone really good.

00:04:33.000 Let them feel that.

00:04:35.000 Let them feel that.

00:04:35.000 And I think for a lot of guys, a lot of guys get big, and then they start getting television shows and movies, and you don't realize how much time that takes away from your stand-up.

00:04:44.000 True.

00:04:44.000 When I was doing Fear Factor, I remember seeing guys that would come into town that were doing the road constantly, and I'd be jealous.

00:04:52.000 I would.

00:04:53.000 I was on a television show, a hit show, and everybody wanted to be on a hit show, but I would see these guys that were so smooth because they'd just been doing those Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, Sunday on the road, and they were just whoop, whoop, whoop, just greased up and just smooth and just everything was polished.

00:05:11.000 Yes, yeah.

00:05:12.000 That's the top level.

00:05:14.000 You get to that when you're headlining constantly and your act is just so polished.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, and you can see it too.

00:05:22.000 Irrelevant. 0.99

00:05:23.000 And they talking about things, you're like, damn. 0.99

00:05:26.000 I didn't see it that way. 1.00

00:05:28.000 Damn. 0.99

00:05:28.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:05:29.000 So it's the beautiful part.

00:05:30.000 That's what I look for.

00:05:31.000 You've never seen it this way.

00:05:33.000 You've never seen this angle of it.

00:05:35.000 Well, that's the best when you watch a comic and they say something that you would have never expected.

00:05:39.000 And you're like, wow, that's a nice angle.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:05:44.000 That's the craft.

00:05:45.000 That's the hook.

00:05:46.000 Yeah.

00:05:46.000 Yeah, that's the sweet spot.

00:05:48.000 We call it in the pocket.

00:05:49.000 That's when you're in the pocket.

00:05:50.000 You get it.

00:05:51.000 Where did you record this?

00:05:53.000 Washington, D.C. Nice.

00:05:55.000 Yeah, at home.

00:05:56.000 I'm from Washington, D.C., Southeast D.C. So when Dave came to me, where you want to go?

00:06:00.000 I said, well, let's go ahead and make it as rough as possible.

00:06:03.000 Let's go on and do it at home.

00:06:06.000 Let everybody be here.

00:06:08.000 So at least, if nothing else, I stamp my hometown.

00:06:11.000 That's why you talk about that in the beginning of it.

00:06:13.000 Yes.

00:06:14.000 The other guy that I've had on recently who's also, it's undeniable and unbelievable that he's not huger, is Tony Woods.

00:06:24.000 Yes.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, I had Tony Woods on recently and then we did a show together at the Vulcan.

00:06:27.000 I'm like, God damn, he's good. 0.96

00:06:29.000 Yes. 0.99

00:06:30.000 He's so smooth.

00:06:31.000 Me and Tony have been friends for over 25 years.

00:06:34.000 Yeah, me too.

00:06:35.000 I've known Tony since the 90s.

00:06:37.000 Yes, Tony is my man.

00:06:39.000 He's from D.C. too.

00:06:40.000 And he has that slow delivery and sarcastically.

00:06:46.000 It's beautiful.

00:06:47.000 When you write, do you sit down and write?

00:06:50.000 Do you just collect information throughout the day?

00:06:53.000 How do you come up with the material?

00:06:55.000 I write in my mind.

00:06:58.000 I never physically write.

00:07:00.000 What I do, I come up with a concept and elaborate on it.

00:07:04.000 And usually it comes with a truth and then it expands to a big-ass lie.

00:07:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:11.000 Like they say, the first casualty of war is the truth.

00:07:15.000 So that's what it is.

00:07:17.000 There it is.

00:07:18.000 And then I just expand on it and expand on it and expand on it.

00:07:21.000 So when I get on stage, I never know what I'm going to say.

00:07:24.000 But once I see it and I just say what I see, because I see it in my mind and then I just it comes out that way.

00:07:32.000 That's how I do it.

00:07:33.000 So when you write new material, do you just go up with it?

00:07:36.000 Or do you try to sandwich it in between material that you've already done?

00:07:38.000 No, like this right here, I say, this is what I'm not going to talk about.

00:07:43.000 I take everything, like this special, I'm not going to talk about any of that.

00:07:47.000 And then I start from then on.

00:07:50.000 So you take all the material that you're not going to do anymore because you did it in the special.

00:07:54.000 Right.

00:07:55.000 But when you, like, say if you have a new bit that you're trying to work into your act, do you try to do it first?

00:08:00.000 Yeah, I do it right there because I know where it is to be funny with it.

00:08:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:05.000 So I'll start just say what I find is funny.

00:08:09.000 Like, we're going through this thing with Kuwait. 1.00

00:08:12.000 I mean, with Ukraine, excuse me. 0.60

00:08:16.000 And I'm like, okay, the Russians are marching.

00:08:19.000 They're marching.

00:08:20.000 So you start from that point on and just elaborate all the way through.

00:08:24.000 And you just work it out on stage?

00:08:26.000 Work it right there on stage.

00:08:27.000 Interesting.

00:08:28.000 Yeah.

00:08:28.000 I work it right on stage.

00:08:29.000 Have you always done it that way?

00:08:30.000 Always.

00:08:31.000 Really?

00:08:32.000 Yeah.

00:08:32.000 See, I had my own comedy club.

00:08:34.000 And it was the Uptown Comedy Corner.

00:08:37.000 And the comedy act theater wouldn't allow me to perform there.

00:08:41.000 So when I... Where was that?

00:08:43.000 In Atlanta, Georgia.

00:08:44.000 So they wouldn't let me perform there.

00:08:47.000 So I told my mother, my mother said, told you if they're not going to let you ride their bike, you either get your own bike or walk.

00:08:54.000 So I got my own club.

00:08:57.000 And because I was affiliated with this dude, they said, it's not an all-black comedy club.

00:09:02.000 It's white dudes and probably own it. 0.70

00:09:04.000 So they kind of like boycotted my club.

00:09:07.000 So they left me there to do all the jokes.

00:09:10.000 And I had to entertain them.

00:09:15.000 Go up there and just go.

00:09:16.000 And it was the best thing that ever happened for me. 1.00

00:09:18.000 Who the fuck boycotted your club? 0.99

00:09:19.000 Other comedians. 1.00

00:09:20.000 And you know back in the day, because you know back in the day, you've been in the game long.

00:09:24.000 If you work this club, you can't work this club.

00:09:26.000 You know, Comedy Act Theater was the premier black comedy club.

00:09:31.000 So you got a club in Los Angeles, Atlanta, that's the premier black club, and it's this new club with the dudes that's not from here named Earthquake, and the owner say, you go up here, you'll never work in my club?

00:09:42.000 You know what comedians gonna do.

00:09:44.000 They're gonna go like, nah, man, I would do your club, but Gary said, if I go up there, I ain't gonna be able to work.

00:09:50.000 I'm like, alright. 0.99

00:09:51.000 And it was only until Steve Harvey, which is a good friend of mine, called him up and said, Steve, none of these motherfuckers ain't doing it. 1.00

00:09:57.000 He's like, fuck that, I'd do it. 0.99

00:09:58.000 Steve came in, sold it out, and when they saw him come seeing him, they saw me, and the rest was history. 1.00

00:10:07.000 Wow.

00:10:07.000 So you were basically working at your club almost every night?

00:10:10.000 Every night.

00:10:11.000 Wow.

00:10:12.000 I was the feature, the open mic, and the headliner.

00:10:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:18.000 That's why if people see and thinking I'm drunk or something, leaning up against the wall, that's just what I would do.

00:10:23.000 I used to just lean up on the wall and do an hour straight off the top and just hit it that way.

00:10:29.000 And that just became my style and I just continue on.

00:10:34.000 See what I say?

00:10:35.000 And just riff right off of it.

00:10:37.000 That's an amazing gym to train at.

00:10:40.000 To have that kind of a setup, it's kind of by necessity, but still, that's an amazing way to work on your act. 0.99

00:10:49.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:10:50.000 Yeah, that's how I do it. 0.99

00:10:51.000 I just come up with some different topics and elaborate on them.

00:10:55.000 So you didn't do any prep beforehand?

00:10:58.000 Like you would never sit down with a notepad and write ideas out or anything?

00:11:02.000 No, I don't do that.

00:11:04.000 What I do is, this is what I'm going to start at, and I continue on, and then at the time, I tape every show I've ever did, and I suppose I've been disciplined enough to go back and say, I know it's something that I want to elaborate on later, and I got it down so I could talk about it later,

00:11:20.000 but I never did.

00:11:21.000 I never did. 1.00

00:11:22.000 I just said fuck it. 1.00

00:11:23.000 I caught it and something else to come. 1.00

00:11:27.000 Do you know any comics do that?

00:11:28.000 Record and never listen or never watch it?

00:11:31.000 How many?

00:11:32.000 A lot.

00:11:33.000 Almost every one of them.

00:11:34.000 Oh yeah.

00:11:35.000 I got all my shows and I never watched none of them.

00:11:38.000 I occasionally will go back and look at them if there's something that I don't remember I said.

00:11:42.000 I know I said something and I gotta figure out what it is.

00:11:45.000 I'll go watch.

00:11:45.000 See, that's where it's also Achilles.

00:11:48.000 If I try to think about what I said...

00:11:51.000 It'll never come out.

00:11:53.000 Right, because you won't be smooth.

00:11:54.000 No, I won't.

00:11:54.000 You won't be in the moment.

00:11:55.000 Because I'm thinking.

00:11:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:57.000 That one is just for y'all.

00:11:59.000 It was there for that.

00:12:00.000 If I try to capture it and bring it up and take it to St. Louis, what I did in Dallas, it ain't going to work.

00:12:08.000 It has to be right then and there.

00:12:10.000 So you just pray.

00:12:11.000 You get up there and say, God has never let me down before and keep on going with it.

00:12:16.000 Well, that is one of the beautiful things about your style, is that it seems so loose and relaxed and natural.

00:12:22.000 Because if you can achieve that mindset and just do that every night and never think about the material, just let it flow out, that's an amazing gift.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, I mean, Steve told me that too.

00:12:36.000 I remember I did get caught up in the comedy club, this is how you pose, write a joke and everything.

00:12:42.000 And I was writing, and he said, what you doing?

00:12:45.000 I said, I'm writing to get my stuff together.

00:12:47.000 He just grabbed the paper, tore it up.

00:12:48.000 He said, you don't need to write. 1.00

00:12:50.000 Your shit come out already. 1.00

00:12:52.000 Don't let them fuck what you got. 1.00

00:12:54.000 And once he told me that, it was on. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Wow.

00:12:56.000 It was on.

00:12:57.000 So he gave you the advice to not write?

00:12:59.000 Yeah, he gave me the advice.

00:13:00.000 He said, don't write it down.

00:13:01.000 Let it be.

00:13:02.000 Let it go.

00:13:03.000 Ordinarily, I would argue with that.

00:13:04.000 I would say, no, you should definitely write.

00:13:06.000 But then I see what you're doing, and I'm like, leave it alone.

00:13:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I try.

00:13:10.000 I try to conform it in and put it in.

00:13:13.000 I really, to be honest with you, I envy those polished-ass comedians.

00:13:20.000 I mean, every word, like Seinfeld, let's go here.

00:13:23.000 I mean, polished.

00:13:26.000 That's not me, because mine is like a testimony, like preaching.

00:13:30.000 You get caught up in the gospel of it, and you just, some words don't come right.

00:13:35.000 Yeah.

00:13:35.000 Because you're in it.

00:13:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:13:37.000 You're in it.

00:13:38.000 So, you know, it's like Michael James.

00:13:41.000 Chum On Now, I'm pretty sure it wasn't written down.

00:13:43.000 He got into the song and Chum On Now came and it worked with the song.

00:13:48.000 Well, some of my favorite people perform like that, like Joey Diaz. 0.93

00:13:51.000 Joey Diaz will go on stage with some shit that happened five minutes before and he'll open with it. 0.97

00:13:56.000 And you'll be dying laughing. 0.99

00:13:58.000 And there's no preparation.

00:13:59.000 It's just smooth and natural and just who he is.

00:14:03.000 And you can't achieve that.

00:14:05.000 That's not something that a guy who doesn't do that can do.

00:14:09.000 It's like a rare ability to be able to just be smooth and loose right away with a bit.

00:14:16.000 Yeah, I mean, because we already know that it's funny in our head.

00:14:22.000 Now we just want to tell you.

00:14:23.000 It's like, you say, man, guess what I saw?

00:14:25.000 And you want to tell her, I saw this funny thing.

00:14:27.000 And that's what it is.

00:14:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:29.000 And if you try to tell the story again, you'll tell the story again, but it'll never be like you told it the first time, the second time, the third time, the fourth time.

00:14:37.000 It competes, you know, completely just revolve and revolve to a bigger life, to more funnier.

00:14:43.000 Now, when you prepped for this special, how many shows did you do?

00:14:47.000 I did two shows.

00:14:49.000 Two shows.

00:14:50.000 Same night?

00:14:51.000 No, one per night.

00:14:52.000 One per night.

00:14:55.000 Like a Friday and a Saturday?

00:14:56.000 Friday and a Saturday.

00:14:58.000 And which one was the better one?

00:15:03.000 Second one, I think.

00:15:04.000 Everybody else said the second one.

00:15:06.000 The first one you say, let me get it in the can.

00:15:08.000 The number one objective for me was to make sure it captured who I was.

00:15:14.000 You know what I mean?

00:15:16.000 And I made sure that was on the first one.

00:15:18.000 Then the second one, it was like it's another night at the club.

00:15:21.000 I knew I had that one in the can.

00:15:23.000 They was like, you ain't even got to do the second show if you don't want to.

00:15:25.000 We got it in the first.

00:15:26.000 I said, nah, let me do this one.

00:15:28.000 And I did it a whole different way. 0.99

00:15:30.000 He's like, god damn. 0.99

00:15:31.000 That is what it's about when you do a special. 0.99

00:15:33.000 When someone has to do one special and you have one hour to do it.

00:15:38.000 I always talk about Bill Hicks' special, Relentless.

00:15:41.000 It was this HBO special.

00:15:42.000 Yeah, I love Bill.

00:15:43.000 Bill was amazing.

00:15:44.000 But that special, you could tell he's kind of tense.

00:15:49.000 He's got one shot to do this in one hour.

00:15:53.000 There's no looseness that you would get from a regular show.

00:15:57.000 So if you can get a few shows in, I do four.

00:16:00.000 I do two on Friday, two on Saturday.

00:16:03.000 When you tape?

00:16:03.000 Yep.

00:16:03.000 That would you do?

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:04.000 Okay.

00:16:05.000 Because I did two, like the last time I did two was in 2014 and a lady heckled me during the first show.

00:16:11.000 And I was like, oh no. 0.96

00:16:13.000 I was like, if someone heckles me during the second show, I'm fucked because this one bit was ruined when she yelled something out. 0.92

00:16:22.000 So when I do four, though, it's just like right away from the beginning, I'm like, this is going to be just a regular show.

00:16:28.000 So from the beginning, it doesn't feel like a recording.

00:16:31.000 Yeah, I mean, for us, I feel, Bill, on that because you're really saying, I need this recording.

00:16:39.000 To do something.

00:16:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:41.000 I need this to do something.

00:16:44.000 I need it to work for you.

00:16:45.000 Yes.

00:16:45.000 You want your rate to go up.

00:16:51.000 And what I mean, your quote to go up.

00:16:53.000 You want to be considered in the room.

00:16:55.000 Because, you know, I tell people all the time, the only difference between me and my peers is, again, Opportunity that they cash in on.

00:17:01.000 But you at least got to get that opportunity.

00:17:04.000 You need somebody to say, well, what about Quake?

00:17:06.000 You know, in the room.

00:17:07.000 What about, let's try him.

00:17:09.000 And those opportunities.

00:17:11.000 And that special for Bill will put him in that room.

00:17:15.000 They say, what about Bill?

00:17:16.000 I've seen this comedian.

00:17:18.000 They had a special.

00:17:18.000 He was funnier.

00:17:19.000 He would be great for this.

00:17:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:23.000 And that type of thing.

00:17:24.000 Well, your performances, they've all been amazing, but it's all word of mouth.

00:17:29.000 It's like people had to find out about you because people went to see you and they said, you got to see this dude.

00:17:33.000 And then boom, boom, boom, and it builds up.

00:17:36.000 But there has to be something that the mainstream can see.

00:17:40.000 People that don't know the people that have seen you.

00:17:42.000 And that's what this is. 0.98

00:17:43.000 Like something that can get out there so that anybody can watch it and go, holy shit. 0.98

00:17:48.000 Yeah, and for somebody to draw them in. 0.90

00:17:51.000 See, that's what's so important about Dave.

00:17:54.000 You put Dave's name on it, then everybody that loves Dave is going to come see it because it's Dave off of it.

00:18:01.000 And then they get to see to know you.

00:18:03.000 And he's doing that with Donnell as well.

00:18:04.000 Yes.

00:18:05.000 Donnell's is next month.

00:18:07.000 Is it just the two of you?

00:18:08.000 No, I heard it's four.

00:18:10.000 Who else?

00:18:11.000 I think Tony Woods, Rutebute, and Luenelle.

00:18:13.000 That's what I heard.

00:18:14.000 I asked Tony about it, and he's like, I don't know when I'm doing it.

00:18:17.000 I'm like, what do you mean you don't know when?

00:18:18.000 He goes, I don't know. 0.99

00:18:19.000 I'm like, well, you should fucking know. 0.98

00:18:21.000 No, when you're dealing with the master, you don't know. 0.99

00:18:25.000 We filmed this in July.

00:18:28.000 Really?

00:18:29.000 Yeah, and it's just dropping here in February.

00:18:32.000 So you got to work with, you know, with Dave on Hype because he's a perfectionist. 0.91

00:18:40.000 He reminds me, I worked with Dr. Dre on the beats, the shit, the speakers. 0.91

00:18:46.000 And we did divorce on it. 0.98

00:18:48.000 And I swear to God, I was in that studio with Dr. Dre for about eight hours. 0.99

00:18:52.000 I'm like, listen, motherfucker, I am not a rapper. 0.99

00:18:56.000 I mean, every word was precise. 0.99

00:19:00.000 Let's try to say what again. 0.99

00:19:02.000 I said how many motherfucking times do you want me to say what? 0.99

00:19:06.000 But he is like that. 0.99

00:19:10.000 Dave is like that.

00:19:12.000 He is particular with his work and how he want to be done.

00:19:15.000 And, you know, that's where it is.

00:19:17.000 So he'll get to it.

00:19:19.000 And when he get to it, the way he want it done, he'll do it.

00:19:22.000 And I can't argue with this process because the results was great.

00:19:26.000 Yeah, it's not an accident that he's considered the greatest living comedian.

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:30.000 It's work.

00:19:31.000 Yes, it's work.

00:19:32.000 And he's particular with it, and he has in it.

00:19:36.000 His timing, only people know the timing when they drop it, when it's right, it's right, it's him.

00:19:42.000 And his timing is impeccable.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, no.

00:19:45.000 He's also, he's constantly working.

00:19:48.000 Dave's constantly doing sets.

00:19:50.000 He'll constantly do drop-in sets places.

00:19:52.000 Like, on my Instagram feed, I'll just find him.

00:19:54.000 He's in New York.

00:19:55.000 He's here.

00:19:56.000 He's there.

00:19:56.000 He's in LA. He just shows up places and does sets.

00:19:59.000 Like, he's constant.

00:20:00.000 And not even necessarily working like getting paid, just working on his craft.

00:20:04.000 True. 0.99

00:20:04.000 He's constantly going in and fucking around and having fun and creating new shit. 0.99

00:20:09.000 He's a comedian. 1.00

00:20:10.000 He turns over an hour so quick, too.

00:20:12.000 Yes.

00:20:13.000 We were working together doing arenas, and he put out a special, and then he's headlining an arena with new material. 0.76

00:20:21.000 The special was a couple of weeks ago, and he's already working out new shit, and he's doing it in front of 18,000 people. 0.76

00:20:30.000 Exactly. 0.98

00:20:31.000 It's wild.

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 The confidence is...

00:20:34.000 Unmatched.

00:20:50.000 It's beautiful that he's producing specials, too.

00:20:52.000 I love it.

00:20:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I have never received so much press in my career.

00:21:00.000 Over 30 years of career, I have never received so much press in this one time, in the totality of my whole career.

00:21:07.000 What year did you start?

00:21:09.000 91, after getting out of the military.

00:21:12.000 Oh, yeah?

00:21:13.000 Yeah, I was in the Air Force for nine years.

00:21:16.000 Oh, wow.

00:21:17.000 Yeah, I wanted to do 20 years, but the war broke out.

00:21:19.000 So I had to let them know.

00:21:21.000 I had to tell them I don't mind practicing for war.

00:21:25.000 Y'all fighting for real.

00:21:27.000 I gotta tell you the truth, I ain't no real soldier.

00:21:30.000 I just got here to get out of my mother's house.

00:21:33.000 Did you plan on doing stand-up eventually?

00:21:36.000 No, what happened was...

00:21:39.000 I used to just sit there, anything to get out of work, you know, because I was that soldier.

00:21:44.000 Anything to get out.

00:21:45.000 So the USO had a tour.

00:21:47.000 So I go up there and talk a couple times on that stuff.

00:21:50.000 Anything to get out of the military.

00:21:53.000 I mean, get out of work.

00:21:54.000 And then I saw what's about to happen.

00:21:57.000 I knew they was getting tired of me because I was a terrible soldier.

00:22:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:02.000 Came in as an E1, left as an E1. What's an E1? That's the first strike you get.

00:22:08.000 Really?

00:22:08.000 Nine years later, still just one strike.

00:22:11.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 Wow.

00:22:12.000 What do you have to do to get stripes?

00:22:15.000 Some of them come with seniority and then to get to a level that you have to pass tests and know all the different aircraft.

00:22:22.000 I ain't gonna care about this.

00:22:23.000 I'm just over here trying to find out what my real purpose is.

00:22:26.000 You the one got me when you said it's a great place to start.

00:22:29.000 You ain't say nothing about finish.

00:22:30.000 So let's just kick it until we break up.

00:22:34.000 You know, like dating a woman like, you ain't gonna be my wife until this real woman I want to mess with come along. 1.00

00:22:40.000 I'd just kick it with you. 0.98

00:22:42.000 And that's what the military was, and it was the best experience of my life because it opened up my mind because I lived in D.C. and it's segregated, and I found out there was people out there like you that had more in common with me than difference, and it was the best thing ever.

00:22:59.000 Yeah, that's water.

00:23:00.000 Okay, thank you.

00:23:02.000 So it's kind of amazing, right?

00:23:04.000 Because if the war didn't break out, maybe you would have never done stand-up.

00:23:08.000 Probably not, but I would have been out the military.

00:23:10.000 They would have put me out.

00:23:12.000 Because no advancement.

00:23:13.000 You just can't stay in as an E1. But it was probably not.

00:23:17.000 I never thought that this was my destiny.

00:23:19.000 It was the best decision that day.

00:23:22.000 Nothing better hasn't came along, so that's what I suppose we're doing.

00:23:25.000 So what inspired you to do an open mic?

00:23:30.000 As usual, a woman watching Eddie Murphy do delirious, she was falling all on the ground. 1.00

00:23:37.000 I said, if you want to fuck him, just say you want to fuck him. 1.00

00:23:41.000 But that ain't that funny that you throwing up and all that. 1.00

00:23:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:46.000 Just stop it.

00:23:47.000 You can't do that.

00:23:50.000 I said, I can do that. 0.99

00:23:53.000 I heard more funny shit than that. 0.98

00:23:55.000 That's funny, but that ain't the funniest thing I ever heard. 0.99

00:23:59.000 Definitely had to get this reaction you doing.

00:24:02.000 So she's like, come on.

00:24:03.000 I went to the comedy club and...

00:24:06.000 I said, okay, I can do this.

00:24:07.000 And then the dude gave me $500.

00:24:10.000 I'm like, okay.

00:24:12.000 And then the money just kept coming and ain't nothing came to take its place.

00:24:15.000 You got 500 bucks for the first set?

00:24:17.000 First set, dude gave me $500.

00:24:20.000 What kind of dude is that?

00:24:21.000 Hey, a good dude.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:23.000 He was like, look, I want you to come on back.

00:24:25.000 I'm gonna give you $500.

00:24:27.000 I said, 500?

00:24:28.000 I said, you serious?

00:24:29.000 So I thought, you know...

00:24:30.000 Must have been a drug dealer or something trying to set me up, right?

00:24:34.000 And he said, nah, I'm gonna give you $500.

00:24:35.000 Come on back the weekend.

00:24:37.000 And I did the whole weekend.

00:24:38.000 And that was the $500 for the whole weekend.

00:24:41.000 And so what was the club?

00:24:43.000 Coconuts.

00:24:44.000 Coconuts.

00:24:45.000 Down at the Holiday Inn in Fort Walton Beach, Florida.

00:24:49.000 Ah, I've heard of that place.

00:24:50.000 Yeah.

00:24:51.000 What they used to do is they used to rent out the bar at a hotel.

00:24:58.000 That's how they'd do it.

00:24:59.000 They'd go to the food and beverage person and say, listen, we'll put some comedians in here. 0.78

00:25:04.000 They'll give your guests something to do.

00:25:07.000 And we'll keep the door and give us a little bit off the bar.

00:25:10.000 And the food man says, of course.

00:25:12.000 And they'll book us, give us like $50 a show, $100 a show, and do five shows.

00:25:18.000 Do you remember your material?

00:25:21.000 My first joke was something about Michael Jackson.

00:25:25.000 Yeah.

00:25:25.000 And that was it.

00:25:27.000 That's all I remember.

00:25:28.000 Did you write anything out before you went up there?

00:25:31.000 No.

00:25:32.000 Well, I tried writing, but my penmanship is so bad.

00:25:37.000 I've been coming out of public school. 1.00

00:25:38.000 It's a damn shame when you can't even read your own shit. 1.00

00:25:42.000 And my spelling is terrible. 1.00

00:25:45.000 Okay, it's Michael Jackson.

00:25:47.000 What did I think about Michael Jackson?

00:25:49.000 I took it from there.

00:25:50.000 So did you rehearse it in your head?

00:25:52.000 Like, how did you do it?

00:25:53.000 I rehearsed it in the mirror, like most comedians.

00:25:56.000 And, you know, the toothbrushes are hollering and the toothpaste is standing up and everything.

00:26:02.000 But it didn't translate on the stage that time.

00:26:04.000 Because when I first started doing it, I just looked up, unfortunately, looking up at the sky, up at the roof of the place, like a woman ain't making love for money. 0.98

00:26:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:15.000 Ain't enjoying it at all.

00:26:17.000 So that's how I got down for my first one.

00:26:21.000 So you just didn't know where to look?

00:26:25.000 Did you feel uncomfortable?

00:26:27.000 The insecurity.

00:26:29.000 That's why my name is Earthquake.

00:26:32.000 People keep asking me, why your name Earthquake? 0.91

00:26:33.000 I say the reason I named my name Earthquake, because if this shit don't work out, I ain't gonna mess up my good name. 0.94

00:26:40.000 So... 0.91

00:26:52.000 That's hilarious.

00:26:53.000 I thought it was just from the reaction you got from the crowd.

00:26:56.000 No, it was an insecurity that if this don't work out...

00:27:00.000 I did not fuck up my good nap.

00:27:03.000 That's hilarious because I thought it was the total opposite. 0.88

00:27:05.000 I thought it was a cocky move.

00:27:07.000 No.

00:27:08.000 Like you're about to cause an earthquake.

00:27:09.000 No.

00:27:10.000 It was like, nah.

00:27:13.000 This don't work out, baby.

00:27:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:17.000 I wouldn't be Scully.

00:27:17.000 I wouldn't Scully my good name.

00:27:19.000 It's funny because it's a perfect name for you.

00:27:22.000 Oh, thank you.

00:27:22.000 It really is.

00:27:23.000 Thank you.

00:27:24.000 It's in the insecurity of wanting to protect your name.

00:27:27.000 You literally came up with the best nickname ever for you.

00:27:30.000 Yes.

00:27:31.000 Yeah.

00:27:31.000 And that's how it came.

00:27:32.000 I used to tell a joke.

00:27:33.000 We'd be like, how you came up with an earthquake?

00:27:36.000 This is happening when your mother takes heavy precautions and Not to have a child and you still get pregnant. 0.98

00:27:43.000 And there's nothing else you can name that child but a natural disaster.

00:27:48.000 That's what I wrote as a joke for it.

00:27:51.000 But the truth honestly about it was the insecurity that if this don't work, I don't want to mess up my name.

00:27:58.000 Were you living in Florida at the time?

00:27:59.000 I lived in Florida.

00:28:00.000 When I got out, I went to Atlanta.

00:28:03.000 And from going on to Atlanta, that's when I started seeing what the comedy clubs was like.

00:28:08.000 That's when we started opening my club two years later.

00:28:11.000 So you do an open mic two years later, you have your own club and you're going on every day.

00:28:17.000 Yeah.

00:28:18.000 Wow.

00:28:19.000 So every, you gotta understand, I'm Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

00:28:26.000 Three shows on Fridays and Saturdays.

00:28:29.000 One on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, one on Thursday, two on Sunday.

00:28:34.000 Every day for about four straight years.

00:28:38.000 Wow.

00:28:40.000 And it just...

00:28:41.000 And you're doing like an hour every night.

00:28:43.000 Every show.

00:28:44.000 Every show.

00:28:45.000 Off the top.

00:28:46.000 Have you ever read the book Outliers?

00:28:48.000 No.

00:28:49.000 It's a great book.

00:28:50.000 Is that a Malcolm?

00:28:52.000 Who is that?

00:28:53.000 No, it's someone else.

00:28:56.000 It's Malcolm Gladwell.

00:28:58.000 It's a great book.

00:28:59.000 One of the things it's about is they detail people who are extremely successful and he talks about the amount of time that's required to get really good at something.

00:29:09.000 Mm-hmm and how many people that look like overnight successes the amount of time they put in was extraordinary one of the things he talks about is the Beatles and the Beatles they did all these shows in Germany where they were doing like what you were doing where they were doing every fucking night they were doing shows and And they had put in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours doing these shows.

00:29:28.000 And so when they first, you know, air quote, made it on the scene, they had put in so much time performing, so much different than most bands because they had done so many shows nightly over and over and over again.

00:29:41.000 Yeah.

00:29:42.000 There's no substitute for that.

00:29:43.000 Not at all.

00:29:44.000 And it's the foundation of who I am.

00:29:47.000 So when I have to sit here, I go in with the confidence knowing, All I gotta do is make sure my environment is pure for me to be able to write the way I do, keep my mind straight, and I can come up with an album.

00:30:02.000 I can come up with an album.

00:30:03.000 And when you were doing this, like, two years in is a very unusual...

00:30:08.000 That's not a lot of time for someone to be... 0.98

00:30:11.000 Forget about headlining at all, but headlining every fucking night? 0.98

00:30:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:30:16.000 And basically being the whole show every night? 0.99

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:21.000 We would get some comedians that come on it, but we didn't get any of the main comedians.

00:30:28.000 Comedians because Comedy Act wasn't happening.

00:30:31.000 That's such a cocky move to open up your own club two years in.

00:30:35.000 That's amazing.

00:30:35.000 But they were so vulnerable.

00:30:37.000 They was in the bad part of town.

00:30:41.000 They didn't serve food.

00:30:43.000 And then the Cardinals, I mean, the one that really would bring them down, they were so arrogant with it that they had booked a comic, two comics, for the whole month.

00:30:54.000 Same comic, every week.

00:30:57.000 Every week.

00:30:58.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:30:59.000 Yes.

00:31:00.000 I remember it was Joe Torrey and Ted Koppiner, and they did the whole month.

00:31:07.000 So when I brought my investors there to get the club, I said, look, these same two are going to be here.

00:31:12.000 There's 400 people in here.

00:31:14.000 They got two waitresses.

00:31:16.000 Plus they ain't got no food.

00:31:17.000 Plus they're in the bad part of town.

00:31:19.000 So what we're going to do, we're going to put the club in Buckhead. 0.80

00:31:24.000 Black people don't go there that much right there because they don't go there. 1.00

00:31:27.000 We're going to call it Uptown. 0.73

00:31:29.000 And we're going to serve food, we're going to have valet service, we're going to be in a better part of the town, and that's how I got it.

00:31:35.000 So once you, any of you going to go up against anybody, you first got to recognize their weakness and where you can draw from what they got.

00:31:43.000 And that's why I pivot all my commercials to them that way.

00:31:46.000 Are you tired of going down to a place, you park your car, and you might don't know who going to be there and they begging you for money?

00:31:53.000 No!

00:31:54.000 Come get your jokes up at Uptown Comedy Corner.

00:31:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:31:58.000 Where you don't see the same comedian over and over again.

00:32:01.000 And we have food.

00:32:03.000 And we have prompt service and everything else come to Uptown.

00:32:07.000 So I just...

00:32:09.000 And as you sit there, you give them a comparison, better time, and people are like, yeah, we like it.

00:32:14.000 And that's how I got them.

00:32:15.000 That's amazing, though, that you did that two years in.

00:32:18.000 Like, go from your career in the military, where you kind of half-ass it, you're not really into it, and then all of a sudden you find this new thing, and you're all in.

00:32:28.000 You're all in.

00:32:29.000 You're opening up your own club 24 months in.

00:32:32.000 That's crazy.

00:32:34.000 But what, you know, it was out of necessity.

00:32:36.000 Because I got tired of driving, like, all the way to Lakeland, Florida to get $50 a show.

00:32:42.000 And then the biggest one, you'll tell a woman you're a comedian. 0.99

00:32:45.000 And she's like, oh, I ain't never seen you at the comedy act.

00:32:49.000 You know, we segregated in the black community.

00:32:53.000 If you ain't here, then you ain't doing it.

00:32:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:32:56.000 So it ain't done.

00:32:57.000 It wasn't as expanded as it is now that they can even imagine this other club.

00:33:03.000 This was the club of all clubs, the only club.

00:33:06.000 If you didn't work there, you wasn't no black comedian.

00:33:09.000 So you had this in your head that you wanted to do this.

00:33:12.000 And how did you make that happen?

00:33:14.000 Like, who did you get to invest in it?

00:33:16.000 Like, how did you start a club?

00:33:17.000 Well, it was this dude named Gary Abdu.

00:33:20.000 He was a comedian, too.

00:33:22.000 But he booked things.

00:33:25.000 He used to do little small places, like Denny's, for example, and put a plywood box up there, little small place, sit there, and he'll throw a shell.

00:33:36.000 And he'll book me.

00:33:39.000 Pay me $150.

00:33:40.000 Me, Ricky, Smiley, and the rest of them.

00:33:42.000 And we sit down and say, what you need to do is we need to open up a black club.

00:33:47.000 So I showed it to him.

00:33:48.000 And I said, this is how we can get him what I previously said.

00:33:52.000 He said, good idea.

00:33:52.000 So we all went out and tried to get Investors.

00:33:56.000 I went to all Deon, Sanders, Dominique, all the people in Atlanta.

00:34:01.000 Hey, man, show up!

00:34:03.000 Just call this person, call this person. 1.00

00:34:05.000 Motherfuckers ain't never do nothing. 1.00

00:34:08.000 One of the person was real. 1.00

00:34:10.000 One of the person represented was very honest.

00:34:12.000 We said, listen, man, quick, I get five of these calls a day. 0.99

00:34:16.000 He ain't gonna do shit. 0.77

00:34:19.000 He ain't gonna do nothing, man.

00:34:21.000 I ain't even gonna waste your time.

00:34:22.000 You know what I mean?

00:34:23.000 So lucky, Gary found the number one plastic surgeon in Atlanta, and he invests.

00:34:30.000 But he told us, I'm going to give y'all $10,000.

00:34:33.000 If y'all can flip this and show it can work on the small states, then I'll get the club.

00:34:39.000 So we went to Birmingham, a couple places, and turned the 10 into about $50,000 to $60,000.

00:34:44.000 And then when we get that from that point on, he said, you can do it.

00:34:47.000 And he gave us the half a million dollars to get the club.

00:34:50.000 Wow.

00:34:51.000 Yeah.

00:34:52.000 Dr. Tom.

00:34:53.000 Wow.

00:34:54.000 Rest in peace, my brother.

00:34:56.000 Wow.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, white dude was great.

00:34:58.000 He used to put all the titties in the women in Atlanta joints. 1.00

00:35:03.000 He was the titty specialist. 0.99

00:35:05.000 You know what I mean? 0.93

00:35:06.000 So if you've seen any big titties in the 90s, in the early 2000s, it was Dr. Tom.

00:35:11.000 And how did you know him?

00:35:12.000 I didn't.

00:35:13.000 My partner Gary at the time knew him, and he brung him in, and we got together.

00:35:18.000 We said, I found somebody I could do it, but it's just a stipulation for us to do it.

00:35:22.000 And when I met him, I was cool.

00:35:24.000 It was beautiful.

00:35:26.000 Do you remember the opening night?

00:35:28.000 Yes.

00:35:29.000 We had 15 people.

00:35:32.000 Yeah.

00:35:33.000 Wow.

00:35:34.000 Yeah, it was 15 people.

00:35:36.000 How many seats does it play?

00:35:37.000 It hold 250. Yeah.

00:35:41.000 Yeah.

00:35:41.000 Yeah, 250 people.

00:35:44.000 Some of the people, matter of fact, my video person who handled my media for me, Star, that's how we met.

00:35:52.000 I hired her as my waitress, and we've been friends ever since.

00:35:56.000 Wow.

00:35:57.000 And I gave her a job to handle all my social media.

00:36:02.000 Wow.

00:36:02.000 So you go from there, 15 people.

00:36:05.000 Yes.

00:36:06.000 And was it you the first guy on stage?

00:36:08.000 Yeah, I had a couple of comedians to help me out, but I was the main man until we was able, because see, once that club closed, then all the comedians, oh man, I'm sorry.

00:36:23.000 I'm going to get down, because now you're the only comedy club in the city.

00:36:27.000 Right.

00:36:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:29.000 But till then, it was a battle.

00:36:30.000 And it was a blessing in disguise, because it made me the beast that I am today.

00:36:35.000 When did it start to catch on?

00:36:37.000 After Steve left.

00:36:40.000 Once Steve, and Steve, he taught me so much, you know, because when he came, he said, I'm going to do your club, because I couldn't get no headliners, nobody that could draw.

00:36:50.000 And I was like, Steve, would you do it?

00:36:51.000 He was hosting Showtime, and he probably said, I'd do it for you.

00:36:54.000 And he came in on a Wednesday, and it was only about 30 people in there.

00:37:01.000 And I was like, okay.

00:37:02.000 And he came in there and looked.

00:37:04.000 He said, give them all their money back and come pick me up tomorrow at 5 o'clock when we do media.

00:37:11.000 I said, what you mean?

00:37:13.000 There's 30 people in here.

00:37:14.000 He said, Steve Harvey don't do no show for 30 people.

00:37:18.000 I said, okay then, man.

00:37:20.000 And then I picked him up and he took me to the radio.

00:37:25.000 That's when I learned how powerful media is.

00:37:28.000 And he stopped by. 0.99

00:37:29.000 He said, let's stop by Dunkin' Donuts because we got to get some donuts and some oysters because you got to smooth these jocks' egos because they feel you're going to try to take their fucking job and everything. 0.99

00:37:42.000 You got to be good on them. 0.96

00:37:44.000 And we got in there at 530, stayed on from 6 to 9, I tell you, Joe, when we got back, he had sold out two on Thursday,

00:38:02.000 four on Friday, four on Saturday, and two on Sunday.

00:38:06.000 Back in 93, I wrote him a check for $45,000.

00:38:11.000 I didn't even know that kind of money exists in comedy.

00:38:15.000 I was like, oh yeah, I ain't never going nowhere.

00:38:17.000 I ain't never going nowhere.

00:38:19.000 And when I saw him pick up that kind of money and seeing what kind of money can be generated as a comedian...

00:38:27.000 I said, this is where I need to be.

00:38:29.000 And once all of those people came and seen all the things that club had to offer and where it was at and we had valet service and all the things that it could do, it was no turning back after that.

00:38:42.000 And they saw me.

00:38:43.000 So it was great.

00:38:45.000 Wow.

00:38:46.000 That will change the whole game.

00:38:48.000 That's a great story.

00:38:49.000 Yeah, that's changed the whole game.

00:38:51.000 He said Steve Harvey don't.

00:38:53.000 That's why I tell people about Steve Harvey.

00:38:55.000 Steve Harvey's always been Steve Harvey.

00:38:57.000 Always the ultimate confidence.

00:38:59.000 He was like, do no show for no 50 people.

00:39:02.000 I said, well, it's packed. 1.00

00:39:06.000 What the fuck you mean? 1.00

00:39:07.000 You're packed. 1.00

00:39:08.000 There's 50 people in here.

00:39:09.000 I read an interview with him recently where he said he doesn't want to do stand-up right now because his television career is too good and he's worried about cancel culture.

00:39:17.000 Yeah.

00:39:18.000 Steve is...

00:39:19.000 If they really pull Steve to the side and allow him to speak his mind, you'd think they was after you.

00:39:30.000 If they ever allow Steve Harvey to talk his mind...

00:39:34.000 Well, put it this way.

00:39:35.000 If Steve Harvey ever talked his mind the way he really feels about everything...

00:39:42.000 Beautiful man to watch.

00:39:44.000 I learned so much just watching his craft.

00:39:47.000 Just watching how he put it together, that rah-rah-rah. 1.00

00:39:52.000 Well, I was reading this interview and it seems like he wants to.

00:39:54.000 It seems like he's gonna wait until he has a certain amount of money and then go back into comedy.

00:40:00.000 That's what it seemed like to me, because he was saying, like, there'll come a time.

00:40:04.000 But, like, right now, I mean, he's got Family Feud.

00:40:07.000 He's always got five different shows on simultaneously.

00:40:10.000 Every time I turn around the show, TV's got some new show.

00:40:12.000 I told him, give up one of these mufflers. 1.00

00:40:15.000 God damn, man. 1.00

00:40:16.000 I don't know how he does it. 1.00

00:40:17.000 Oh, he's a workaholic.

00:40:18.000 I just don't understand where he has the time.

00:40:21.000 I mean, doesn't he do like Miss Universe?

00:40:23.000 Yes. 0.98

00:40:24.000 How the fuck does he have the time for all this? 0.99

00:40:26.000 He doesn't sleep and he's a money-making machine. 0.99

00:40:30.000 Yeah.

00:40:31.000 He got enough money.

00:40:32.000 He just don't got enough he wants.

00:40:34.000 But he's straight.

00:40:36.000 I'm sure.

00:40:38.000 He's trying to get more.

00:40:39.000 Well, the thing is, like, when you hit that level where you can make that kind of money, you don't really want to...

00:40:46.000 Let it stop you want to let it accumulate as much as you can but I think like once you're a comic you're always gonna want to do comedy you're always gonna want to get that the rush of stand-up it might not pay as much as the other things but there's nothing greater in terms of like the way it feels when you're on stage and you're just murdering and everyone's dying That is a groove that very few human beings ever get to slide into.

00:41:14.000 Who don't want to be the funniest man in the room?

00:41:16.000 Right.

00:41:17.000 I tell people all the time, we got the greatest job in the world, because no matter what you do, say it about a good time with your friends, it includes us.

00:41:24.000 Laughter.

00:41:26.000 When you sit there and say, hey, hey, man, I was with my boy and we was having a good time.

00:41:30.000 We was laughing all night.

00:41:31.000 Bingo.

00:41:32.000 We are the laughing all night dudes.

00:41:34.000 You understand?

00:41:35.000 We are that.

00:41:36.000 We walk with that.

00:41:37.000 We are the good time dudes.

00:41:39.000 You understand?

00:41:40.000 We give good times everywhere it is.

00:41:43.000 You want your woman. 0.99

00:41:44.000 Let a woman describe how much she love a man.

00:41:47.000 I was with him and I swear like we knew each other for the longest and we laughed and kicked and everything.

00:41:54.000 Always got to put laugh in it.

00:41:56.000 Yeah.

00:41:56.000 Laugh is included.

00:41:57.000 It's a necessity to have it.

00:41:59.000 So I love it, man.

00:42:01.000 I mean, when you on.

00:42:02.000 When it is and you know it's hitting and you see it, it's beautiful.

00:42:07.000 It is beautiful.

00:42:08.000 And it's a beautiful thing to watch still.

00:42:11.000 You know, I've been doing comedy 33 years.

00:42:14.000 I still love watching it.

00:42:16.000 I still love it.

00:42:17.000 And I was worried in the beginning that I wouldn't.

00:42:20.000 I was worried in the beginning that I would get jaded or I would be jealous.

00:42:24.000 I'd watch someone kill.

00:42:25.000 I'm like, oh, why didn't I think of that?

00:42:26.000 Because that's how it was when I was 21. When I was 21 and dumb, I'd see someone kill and I'd be like, oh, why is he doing so good? 0.86

00:42:33.000 And then I realized that and I was like, oh, that's so weak. 0.95

00:42:36.000 I'm like, that's a weakness.

00:42:37.000 Like, you can't think like that.

00:42:39.000 And I snapped out of it.

00:42:41.000 And then I just started being a fan again.

00:42:43.000 See, that's it.

00:42:44.000 Good thing about me, I can't watch other comedians because I don't physically write.

00:42:49.000 So I have to keep my thought patterns pure.

00:42:53.000 So I don't want to watch them and then I see it and then subconsciously I think I came up with it.

00:43:00.000 So the best way to keep myself pure, I don't watch other comics.

00:43:05.000 At all?

00:43:05.000 No.

00:43:06.000 Even Dave?

00:43:07.000 I don't watch any comedians at all.

00:43:11.000 I see a part of what they do, what their style is, but when they get into their bits and stuff like that, I tap out.

00:43:20.000 I don't even watch Minds after I've done it.

00:43:23.000 Did you watch this special at all?

00:43:25.000 Just this Wednesday when we had the premiere.

00:43:27.000 Really?

00:43:28.000 Yeah.

00:43:28.000 So you weren't involved in any of the editing?

00:43:31.000 No, Dave and my manager, Jermaine, did it.

00:43:34.000 Wow. 0.98

00:43:35.000 Because I know if I watch it, damn, I should have said that. 0.99

00:43:39.000 I should have said that. 0.96

00:43:40.000 See, that's the gif and the curse with it. 0.96

00:43:42.000 You're like, damn, I forgot to say that part of it. 0.98

00:43:46.000 Damn, I put that on it. 0.99

00:43:48.000 So I have yet to perfect... 0.98

00:43:52.000 Everything that's supposed to came out in that came out.

00:43:57.000 Isn't that because comedy is so organic?

00:44:00.000 Yes.

00:44:01.000 It's like a living thing up there.

00:44:03.000 You never get it perfect.

00:44:06.000 Especially you know.

00:44:07.000 You know what you can do and you know that Wednesday was different than Tuesday.

00:44:13.000 Sometimes one bit's better one day and another bit's better another day.

00:44:17.000 It's never going to be exact.

00:44:19.000 Yeah.

00:44:20.000 But see, that's the blessing of it.

00:44:21.000 You can keep striving for it.

00:44:23.000 Yeah.

00:44:23.000 You see what I'm saying?

00:44:24.000 So you can never get jaded and you can never get burnt out.

00:44:28.000 Yeah.

00:44:29.000 Because if you already set that standard for yourself trying to strive for perfection, which you probably never do make it, but God damn it, the journey is where it's at.

00:44:38.000 And that's what it is.

00:44:39.000 So I don't even watch it on it.

00:44:42.000 It's gone.

00:44:43.000 Let me see what it do.

00:44:44.000 Yeah, the striving for perfection is where it's at.

00:44:47.000 It is the journey.

00:44:48.000 Because the destination's not real.

00:44:50.000 Not real.

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 And a lot of us comedians, swear to God, get jaded by that.

00:44:57.000 How so? 0.99

00:45:00.000 Because they already know that there is no perfection, so fuck it, why even try? 0.99

00:45:04.000 Oh, but... 1.00

00:45:06.000 You understand?

00:45:07.000 You see them all the time.

00:45:09.000 You have comedians that's been doing this as long as mine.

00:45:12.000 I haven't just given up.

00:45:15.000 Hell with Hollywood.

00:45:16.000 Hell with not having a show.

00:45:17.000 They ain't never gonna give it to me.

00:45:20.000 I say, I tell them all the time.

00:45:22.000 I won't know it, because I'll be dead before I stop trying for it.

00:45:30.000 I would never know that I would not have all the professional accolades my peers have.

00:45:37.000 Because I would always strive to get it.

00:45:42.000 The thing about the Hollywood part is that you're getting a bunch of people that aren't even comedians to try to give you something.

00:45:49.000 True.

00:45:52.000 I'm glad I escaped that.

00:45:53.000 True.

00:45:56.000 Well, no, I can't.

00:45:58.000 I wish I could.

00:45:59.000 I think you can.

00:46:00.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:01.000 I think you can with this special.

00:46:03.000 I really do.

00:46:04.000 It's that good.

00:46:04.000 But you're that good, too.

00:46:06.000 It's not like it's just the special.

00:46:09.000 There's a few guys like you, Dave Chappelle, or Dave Attell, rather, Tony Woods.

00:46:14.000 There's a few guys that, like, they don't get the credit that they deserve, but the performance is there, which is the hardest part.

00:46:22.000 Like, if you're a famous person, but you're not good at stand-up, and then people come to see you, that's not so good.

00:46:29.000 No.

00:46:30.000 That's the opposite of what you want.

00:46:31.000 You're better off being in your position, because you've got the product, you've got everything.

00:46:37.000 It just needs a vehicle presented to people, and now you have that.

00:46:42.000 Let me ask you this.

00:46:43.000 When you see this...

00:46:45.000 Self-proclaimed great comic that the industry then put up on it and then you actually go see his act and it's elementary at best.

00:46:56.000 How do you react to it?

00:46:58.000 Do you tell him or you just say, good set?

00:47:01.000 Because a lot of them, oh, he was outstanding.

00:47:04.000 I'm like, man, stop lying to that man.

00:47:05.000 You know that wasn't outstanding.

00:47:07.000 Say you're happy for his success.

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:10.000 But he's not a great comic.

00:47:11.000 There's a few guys that get stuck on shows.

00:47:14.000 When you get stuck on a show and you get famous for a show and then your comedy suffers because you don't have the time.

00:47:23.000 True.

00:47:23.000 But your profile gets elevated.

00:47:25.000 Right.

00:47:26.000 And then you start believing the hype and everybody loves you anyway.

00:47:29.000 That's one of the things that Steve Martin said when he got really famous.

00:47:33.000 He stopped doing stand-up because he wasn't getting an honest reaction.

00:47:37.000 They were just so happy to see him, Steve Martin, this huge star, that they were laughing at everything.

00:47:45.000 And you see that sometimes with people.

00:47:46.000 They're just happy to see you.

00:47:49.000 And so you don't get this honest reaction.

00:47:52.000 And that's what I was jealous about when I was doing Fear Factor.

00:47:55.000 There was these guys that were just...

00:47:57.000 They didn't have a TV show like I did, but they were so good.

00:48:01.000 They were so polished.

00:48:02.000 And it made me realize after I was done with Fear Factor, no more of that.

00:48:06.000 I'm done.

00:48:06.000 No more.

00:48:07.000 Now I'm just going to be fully dedicated to stand-up and podcasts.

00:48:11.000 Yeah.

00:48:11.000 So, when you decided to do that, how much more did you hit the stage after that?

00:48:17.000 Constantly.

00:48:18.000 Constantly.

00:48:19.000 Much more.

00:48:20.000 And much more touring.

00:48:21.000 That's the big one.

00:48:22.000 The big one is the road, you know?

00:48:24.000 Charlie Murphy, me, and John Heffron did a tour for Bud Light, this Real Men of Comedy tour.

00:48:32.000 It was the first time I ever did a tour where we did 22 shows in a month.

00:48:38.000 That was like 2007. And we did 22 shows.

00:48:43.000 We'd wake up in a hotel room. 0.99

00:48:44.000 I don't know where the fuck I am. 0.99

00:48:45.000 You stare at the ceiling. 0.99

00:48:47.000 Ohio?

00:48:48.000 I don't know where I am.

00:48:49.000 I forgot.

00:48:49.000 I'd have to look at my phone.

00:48:51.000 And we did these shows where we're headlining.

00:48:56.000 We would go back and forth.

00:48:58.000 He would headline one.

00:48:59.000 I would headline the other. 1.00

00:49:00.000 And by the end of the month, my shit was so tight. 0.99

00:49:04.000 It was just cracking. 0.99

00:49:06.000 And I remember I was talking to my friend Brian.

00:49:08.000 And he was like, have you ever done this before?

00:49:11.000 We've done like 22 hour long shows in a month.

00:49:14.000 And I said, no.

00:49:15.000 And he goes, man, your show is so tight.

00:49:18.000 Everything is so smooth.

00:49:19.000 And I go, this is what I gotta do.

00:49:21.000 I gotta do this all the time.

00:49:23.000 I gotta do this all the time.

00:49:24.000 And it reinforced, because it was right after Fear Factor had ended, and that's when I started doing that.

00:49:29.000 And it made me realize that is...

00:49:31.000 There's no substitute for the attention that you give something, the focus that you give something, when you're just fully, completely dedicated to it.

00:49:40.000 Yeah, and...

00:49:42.000 This, if any profession, shows who's dedicated and who's not.

00:49:46.000 You cannot cheat this right here.

00:49:51.000 You can have all the accolades.

00:49:52.000 And he's on this and he's on that.

00:49:54.000 You'll get that first five, seven minutes.

00:49:57.000 Not even.

00:49:58.000 Yeah, well.

00:49:59.000 You got a minute.

00:49:59.000 Yeah.

00:50:02.000 Then they like, come on now.

00:50:04.000 We used to see that at the comedy store.

00:50:06.000 A guy would go up and he was on a sitcom or something like that.

00:50:08.000 Everybody like, oh, I can't believe he's here.

00:50:10.000 Right.

00:50:11.000 Oh my goodness.

00:50:12.000 And then you see 30 seconds in, they'd be like, hmm, when is this going to get funny? 0.99

00:50:15.000 And then a minute in, they're like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:50:18.000 Right. 0.98

00:50:18.000 And there's too many funny people on the lineup. 0.98

00:50:20.000 Yes.

00:50:20.000 Because you got 12 people on that night.

00:50:23.000 Right.

00:50:24.000 And you better be funny, man.

00:50:26.000 And that's the great part about comedy.

00:50:29.000 Because you better be prepared.

00:50:31.000 I tell comedians all the time.

00:50:33.000 It's not how many followers you got.

00:50:35.000 It's how many comedians you can follow.

00:50:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:50:54.000 You're going to come in the pit.

00:50:56.000 And when you come in the pit, you ain't going to be able to pick your opposition.

00:51:00.000 And you're going to put in the lineup.

00:51:02.000 And based upon your accolades and your profile in your show, it's going to bump you up to last or whatever.

00:51:09.000 And you're going to have to be able to go behind all of them.

00:51:13.000 So that's when you know you are the truth.

00:51:18.000 Especially when you don't have no accolades other than your name.

00:51:23.000 I remember when Cat was the hottest out.

00:51:26.000 We're in American Airlines Theater.

00:51:28.000 He had just flew in to do the Alonzo morning thing.

00:51:32.000 Steve Harvey was hosting. 0.99

00:51:34.000 And I don't know what Cat said, but you can hear the shit, the laughter coming underneath the door and everything. 1.00

00:51:42.000 I'm like, God damn! 0.99

00:51:47.000 You know, and all the groupie girls was over there, and they was like, come on, man. 0.99

00:51:51.000 We can go ahead and go now, because Kat Gerag, we need to go here.

00:51:56.000 And Steve was like, show over? 0.99

00:51:58.000 You got your motherfucking... 1.00

00:52:00.000 See this motherfucker right here? 1.00

00:52:01.000 This motherfucker's gonna show y'all what it is. 1.00

00:52:04.000 Come on, champ! 1.00

00:52:05.000 I'm like, alright, man, but did you hear what this motherfucker just... 0.99

00:52:08.000 I mean, this is when Cat first blew. 0.99

00:52:13.000 And everybody know, good evening, sirs, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

00:52:17.000 I mean, this motherfucker. 0.99

00:52:19.000 Oh, he was so good. 1.00

00:52:20.000 Oh, ladies and gentlemen and pips and everything. 0.76

00:52:24.000 18,000.

00:52:25.000 Oh! 0.60

00:52:26.000 And we in the back. 1.00

00:52:27.000 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:52:29.000 But as usual, you know, just ride that wave. 0.99

00:52:34.000 Wherever he took it from that point on, I don't write long jokes and long setups and got right into it.

00:52:42.000 And once you get there and you hit him there... 0.99

00:52:46.000 You like, ride that fucking wave. 0.99

00:52:48.000 The key that I noticed when I first started, I would get nervous going on after someone who was really good. 0.99

00:52:54.000 And then eventually I realized, no, you should be laughing at them.

00:52:57.000 True.

00:52:58.000 You should be having fun.

00:52:59.000 True.

00:52:59.000 You go up there enjoying it and ride the wave.

00:53:01.000 Ride the wave.

00:53:02.000 But you worry, like, what if they don't like me as much as they like him?

00:53:06.000 And if you're going out...

00:53:07.000 Went on after Martin Lawrence in the 90s almost every time I was at this because Mitzi Shore one of the The great things about Mitzi Shore was she knew how to test you she knew how to put you in a bad spot and every time I I was on the lineup.

00:53:24.000 If Martin Lawrence was on the lineup, I was going on right after Martin.

00:53:27.000 So Martin would go.

00:53:29.000 The whole main room would be sold out. 0.94

00:53:30.000 He would murder.

00:53:32.000 This was the leather jumpsuit days.

00:53:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:36.000 Martin would murder.

00:53:38.000 I wanted to quit comedy.

00:53:41.000 I would go on after him.

00:53:43.000 Most of the crowd would leave like three-quarters the crowd would just leave the moment Martin was offstage and then they would bring me up he would bring me up because you know the Comedy Store tag teams right he would just say my name this guy's real funny guy give it up for Joe Rogan number like thanks and I just go up my shit, but I learned how to survive and you learn how to grab people you learn how to ride the wave and you learn how to grab them and Because you're going on after a guy who's selling out arenas,

00:54:10.000 and he's a movie star, and he's got his own television show, and he's just way better than you.

00:54:17.000 There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

00:54:19.000 You know it.

00:54:19.000 The audience knows it.

00:54:21.000 You've got to figure out a way to elevate.

00:54:23.000 You've got to rise up.

00:54:24.000 There's no other way.

00:54:25.000 You either rise up, or you quit.

00:54:27.000 Or you go home. 1.00

00:54:29.000 Oh, you take that ass whooping. 1.00

00:54:30.000 You take that ass whooping. 1.00

00:54:31.000 You gotta take it. 1.00

00:54:33.000 Everybody has to take it. 0.99

00:54:34.000 I see them up there taking them ass whooping. 1.00

00:54:36.000 I be wanting to stop the fight. 0.98

00:54:39.000 Just let them off.

00:54:41.000 Just let them off.

00:54:42.000 Hit the light.

00:54:43.000 Put the light up and let them get off of it.

00:54:45.000 That's why everybody wants to bring those weak comics on the road with them.

00:54:48.000 That's the worst move ever.

00:54:50.000 Ever.

00:54:51.000 Because you're torturing the audience, too.

00:54:52.000 No, but what you're doing is you're giving yourself a self... 1.00

00:54:57.000 To be quite honest, self comfort, I mean comfort, it's going to come back and bite you in the ass. 1.00

00:55:04.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:55:05.000 I like to take the funniest young dude that's out there and take him on the road with me.

00:55:11.000 So now I know where the standard is, and still shopping stills.

00:55:15.000 So do you.

00:55:17.000 Do you.

00:55:18.000 I mean, I give him 30 minutes.

00:55:20.000 Do you.

00:55:22.000 And then I come behind it and do me.

00:55:24.000 And as long as doing you, and you the top one, and I still kill all over and they still love me more, that keeps me hot, man.

00:55:33.000 That keeps you sharp.

00:55:34.000 You don't want to sit here and...

00:55:38.000 These punching bags they put in front of them.

00:55:40.000 And you can see it.

00:55:41.000 You'll see it.

00:55:42.000 But a lot of comics like, I mean, I got friends.

00:55:45.000 They're like, man, I'm not coming to work and fight every weekend.

00:55:48.000 This is the time I'm going to wait for my wife. 1.00

00:55:50.000 I can go up here and have a good time.

00:55:51.000 I'm not sitting back in the green room over here sweating because this young woman is going to turn the roof off. 1.00

00:55:57.000 Now I'm auditioning for my own show.

00:56:00.000 And that's what they feel.

00:56:01.000 You got to sweat it.

00:56:03.000 I sweat it still today in local shows.

00:56:06.000 I put it in local shows.

00:56:07.000 Ron White, Tim Dillon, Tony Hinchcliffe, Derek Poston, David Lucas.

00:56:14.000 We have these giant monster lineups.

00:56:17.000 I'm still backstage getting ready, feeling it.

00:56:21.000 Open the door, close the door.

00:56:24.000 This is a show.

00:56:25.000 You have to be on that edge.

00:56:27.000 If you're not on that edge, you're just not going to be what you're capable of.

00:56:31.000 You're never going to achieve what you're capable of.

00:56:32.000 No, you'll never reach a potential, and you'll never stay sharp.

00:56:37.000 And if you were doing shows with Cat Williams during the Pimp Chronicles days, my God, he was good.

00:56:42.000 My God.

00:56:44.000 I mean, Joe, I'm telling you, the green room was way down. 1.00

00:56:49.000 This motherfucker broke it, and it came underneath. 0.99

00:56:52.000 It reminds me of... 1.00

00:56:54.000 The Ten Commandments. 0.99

00:56:55.000 Remember when the fog went underneath the shit and everybody put the blood up the left? 0.99

00:56:59.000 For the first round, don't they get killed and everything? 0.99

00:57:02.000 His laughter came under like that to the point you're in a mid-sentence talking to a guy like, yeah, baby, I love it. 1.00

00:57:08.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:57:11.000 Excuse me, baby. 1.00

00:57:14.000 You go out here and see people stand.

00:57:15.000 What did he say?

00:57:17.000 Yeah.

00:57:18.000 Well, he had a look, too.

00:57:19.000 Yes.

00:57:20.000 He was funny just looking at him.

00:57:22.000 Yes.

00:57:23.000 And he's a very intelligent brother.

00:57:25.000 Very intelligent.

00:57:26.000 I learned something from him talking about his preparation for shows.

00:57:31.000 How he has a playlist that he listens to just before he goes on stage.

00:57:35.000 And he doesn't eat before he goes on stage.

00:57:38.000 He goes, I always want to be hungry.

00:57:39.000 He goes, I never want to be full.

00:57:41.000 You never want to be full when you're performing.

00:57:43.000 No, I can't eat before I go on stage.

00:57:45.000 I don't eat before I go on stage because of him.

00:57:48.000 Because I saw that interview and I was like, of course.

00:57:51.000 Why didn't I think of that?

00:57:52.000 Because there's times where I've eaten, because I'm always hungry, man.

00:58:00.000 I have to force myself to be disciplined.

00:58:03.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 But you look good, though, man.

00:58:06.000 I'm going to lose about 20 pounds, man.

00:58:07.000 How are you going to do it?

00:58:09.000 Just be disciplined. 1.00

00:58:10.000 I mean, I did it before, but after a while, I said, fuck it, man. 1.00

00:58:14.000 You know how I lose weight? 1.00

00:58:15.000 I eat only meat.

00:58:17.000 Really?

00:58:18.000 Yeah, only meat.

00:58:19.000 It's called a carnivore diet.

00:58:22.000 I eat meat and fruit.

00:58:23.000 That's it. 0.99

00:58:24.000 No bread, no pasta, no sugar, no bullshit. 0.99

00:58:28.000 I just eat steak and fruit. 0.99

00:58:31.000 That's it?

00:58:32.000 That's it.

00:58:32.000 And I take a lot of vitamins.

00:58:35.000 And I work out a lot.

00:58:37.000 Okay, there you go.

00:58:38.000 That helps too.

00:58:39.000 I know that workout had to come somewhere.

00:58:41.000 Oh yeah, that's what I keep saying.

00:58:43.000 I need to work out.

00:58:45.000 That's me.

00:58:46.000 I don't have like a I can just hang out brain.

00:58:50.000 My brain needs activities.

00:58:52.000 My brain needs tasks.

00:58:55.000 And if I don't give it tasks, it turns on me.

00:58:58.000 Really?

00:58:58.000 Yeah.

00:58:59.000 My brain's like, what are you doing, pussy? 1.00

00:59:01.000 What are you doing, bitch? 1.00

00:59:02.000 I'm like, listen, I've got shit to do. 1.00

00:59:03.000 My brain will turn on me. 0.99

00:59:05.000 I have to get out ahead of it.

00:59:09.000 My brain's like a wolf chasing me.

00:59:11.000 I've got to get out ahead of the wolf. 1.00

00:59:13.000 Damn. 1.00

00:59:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:15.000 My brain lazy as shit. 1.00

00:59:17.000 Stay right here. 1.00

00:59:18.000 Get this pussy down here. 1.00

00:59:20.000 You know, you done already exceeded your expectations. 1.00

00:59:23.000 You won.

00:59:24.000 Listen.

00:59:25.000 You know, I mean, really.

00:59:26.000 Well, we all have different heads, you know.

00:59:28.000 You have to think, like, what's the best way to balance out your head?

00:59:32.000 And that's...

00:59:32.000 I figured out a long time ago.

00:59:34.000 When I exercise a lot, I can relax.

00:59:37.000 And if I don't...

00:59:39.000 If I don't squeeze all the extra energy out of my body, I can't relax.

00:59:44.000 Really?

00:59:45.000 Yeah.

00:59:46.000 Not only can I not relax, but I turn on myself. 1.00

00:59:49.000 Damn. 0.99

00:59:50.000 I am relaxed when I don't do a damn thing. 1.00

00:59:53.000 Let me explain something to you. 0.94

00:59:55.000 I mean, I could sit on the couch for, hey, listen, I could sit on the couch for four days if I could get away with it.

01:00:03.000 Really?

01:00:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:04.000 I don't need a damn thing. 0.97

01:00:06.000 I'm that dude. 0.96

01:00:07.000 Give me a remote.

01:00:08.000 I'll sit on that moment.

01:00:09.000 I got all moment.

01:00:10.000 Listen, I only go to work because I have to.

01:00:13.000 Listen to me.

01:00:16.000 When I get some money, you'll know when I got some money because you won't see me.

01:00:22.000 I'm being honest with you.

01:00:24.000 That's why I never understand seeing all these people would say they got all this money.

01:00:27.000 Why are you working? 0.98

01:00:30.000 Once I get enough money to the point that my black ass would never have an unseen episode... 0.99

01:00:37.000 You know? 0.99

01:00:38.000 Hey, man, I'm good.

01:00:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:41.000 I swear.

01:00:42.000 I can't.

01:00:43.000 I don't get it.

01:00:46.000 I just don't get it.

01:00:47.000 Working, the only reason I see people supposed to work because you're supposed to go get the money.

01:00:53.000 Even if it's a pleasurable job, which we have.

01:00:57.000 But let me get the money. 0.99

01:01:01.000 My black ass ain't going nowhere. 0.99

01:01:03.000 I'm the opposite. 0.99

01:01:04.000 The more money I get, the more I think I don't want to get lazy just because I have all this money so I work harder.

01:01:11.000 See, I don't want that.

01:01:12.000 You keep that philosophy. 0.97

01:01:14.000 I want to get the money so I don't have to be able not to do a damn thing. 0.97

01:01:18.000 I get it. 0.97

01:01:18.000 I get that. 0.97

01:01:19.000 Not a damn thing. 0.83

01:01:20.000 I get depressed. 0.94

01:01:21.000 I can't just watch TV. If I watch TV, I'd have to have accomplished a lot of shit before I can just sit down and just relax. 0.97

01:01:29.000 I mean, that's my everything. 0.99

01:01:31.000 Watching TV. That's about everything.

01:01:35.000 Right below a woman. 1.00

01:01:36.000 You understand what I'm saying?

01:01:38.000 I can't.

01:01:40.000 I mean, I could just sit there and watch TV and don't worry about nothing.

01:01:45.000 That's why I have a perfect mentality for stardom, because I don't have to go nowhere.

01:01:50.000 I don't have to be at the after party.

01:01:53.000 When I say goodnight, it's goodnight.

01:01:57.000 When I walk off the stage, I'm gone.

01:01:59.000 Yeah.

01:01:59.000 I am.

01:02:00.000 I go straight to the hotel, chill, and be prepared for the next place I go.

01:02:06.000 I don't do none of the rest of the stuff.

01:02:08.000 No.

01:02:09.000 Dave likes to go out.

01:02:10.000 Oh, Dave hard.

01:02:12.000 He's an animal.

01:02:13.000 He goes out.

01:02:13.000 He's an animal.

01:02:14.000 I learned about vitamin IVs from Dave.

01:02:17.000 Yes.

01:02:17.000 Because when we first started doing shows together, he'd be drinking all night.

01:02:21.000 And then next thing in the morning, he's like, hey, Joe, we're going to do these IVs.

01:02:26.000 And I go, what are you doing?

01:02:27.000 He's like, vitamins.

01:02:29.000 That's how he does it.

01:02:30.000 Glutathione, which helps your body process alcohol.

01:02:33.000 High dose IV, vitamin C, D, E, zinc.

01:02:37.000 And I was like, really?

01:02:38.000 So I first started doing vitamin IVs when I worked with Dave.

01:02:42.000 And I was like, oh.

01:02:43.000 Okay.

01:02:44.000 So it just rejuvenates the body.

01:02:46.000 So we would be in a room, and there's like eight of us in there, all hooked up to a tree, like this IV tree, and these tubes coming off these bags hanging from this metal stack where they've got all our IV bags. 0.89

01:03:00.000 We're all just sitting around talking shit, getting the IV drip. 1.00

01:03:03.000 Damn. 1.00

01:03:04.000 I heard about them. 1.00

01:03:05.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 I couldn't afford them.

01:03:07.000 It's not that much money.

01:03:08.000 No?

01:03:09.000 No, no.

01:03:09.000 Oh, okay.

01:03:11.000 I heard about him.

01:03:12.000 You should do it.

01:03:13.000 I'm going to try it out one time.

01:03:15.000 You do shows with Dave ever?

01:03:17.000 Only a couple of times.

01:03:19.000 I stepped into Houston.

01:03:21.000 I'd say about four or five I did it.

01:03:23.000 Did you do Yell Springs at all when he had that?

01:03:25.000 No.

01:03:26.000 No?

01:03:26.000 No.

01:03:27.000 Did you go?

01:03:27.000 No, I didn't go.

01:03:29.000 No.

01:03:29.000 I went up there when we had to do the taping for the Get Together when we were going to release it and he did all the editing on it.

01:03:41.000 Little tale, I could never live there.

01:03:43.000 No? 1.00

01:03:43.000 Fuck no. 1.00

01:03:45.000 How come? 1.00

01:03:47.000 Nah, I'm not a Mayberry type guy.

01:03:49.000 Is it really Mayberry? 1.00

01:03:51.000 It's all farms and shit? 1.00

01:03:53.000 Yeah, it's a small town. 0.99

01:03:54.000 You know, everybody know each other.

01:03:56.000 But it's great for Dave.

01:03:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:59.000 Dave can go do what he want to do in the world and come back there.

01:04:03.000 You can tell who don't belong there.

01:04:05.000 They'll stick out like a thumb.

01:04:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:08.000 You can't just say you were just in the area.

01:04:11.000 Right.

01:04:12.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:12.000 You came here looking for him.

01:04:14.000 You can't, you know what I mean?

01:04:16.000 Does he get a lot of that, though?

01:04:18.000 No, I don't think so.

01:04:19.000 The town loves him in this small town. 1.00

01:04:22.000 It's really Mayberry type shit. 0.99

01:04:24.000 Well, he's got a comedy club he's opening up there. 0.99

01:04:27.000 Yeah.

01:04:27.000 He bought a firehouse.

01:04:28.000 Yeah, and he's going to turn it into a comedy club.

01:04:31.000 And he's going to call it the firehouse, though.

01:04:33.000 Is he?

01:04:33.000 Yeah.

01:04:34.000 Well, that's what he said last time I talked to him about it.

01:04:36.000 I told him I'd do it. 1.00

01:04:38.000 Oh, fuck yeah. 0.99

01:04:39.000 It's going to be a 120-seater. 0.99

01:04:42.000 He also said $64 million.

01:04:44.000 Something like that.

01:04:46.000 That's how much it cost?

01:04:47.000 He said all together the development when he was cussing out them other people.

01:04:51.000 When he went to the county meeting or city council meeting when the other buildings was coming, he was telling them, you want to lose this $64 million to bring that $24 million?

01:05:05.000 Is that what he said?

01:05:06.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:05:07.000 Is this it?

01:05:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:05:09.000 Oh, shit. 0.97

01:05:10.000 Is that the design of it or the actual image? 0.99

01:05:13.000 I mean, it is not built yet, but that's the design.

01:05:15.000 So that's a CAD. Yeah.

01:05:17.000 Oh, wow.

01:05:18.000 What a great idea.

01:05:19.000 Look at the image of him in neon on the side.

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 That's amazing.

01:05:23.000 And that used to be a fire department.

01:05:26.000 He has that whole thing in the shack.

01:05:31.000 He has that whole replica right up there.

01:05:36.000 When is he supposed to have this open?

01:05:38.000 I don't know, but it's nice.

01:05:40.000 Wow, that looks great.

01:05:42.000 It's perfect.

01:05:44.000 That's a perfect thing. 1.00

01:05:45.000 That's a perfect size, too, to fuck around, too. 0.99

01:05:48.000 And if you're in a small town, you could get 120 people. 0.99

01:05:50.000 Well, people are gonna go there.

01:05:51.000 I think it's a little bigger than that, but you're only, like, 40 minutes, 30 minutes from Dayton or anything?

01:05:57.000 Ah, okay.

01:06:00.000 Far from civilization.

01:06:02.000 And plus it's Dave.

01:06:03.000 And then it's Dave.

01:06:05.000 Build it, they will come. 0.76

01:06:06.000 Yeah, it's Moses talking.

01:06:08.000 Come on.

01:06:09.000 They're gonna come see him.

01:06:10.000 When this episode's over, I'll tell you about my club.

01:06:14.000 Because I bought a place in town.

01:06:15.000 Did you?

01:06:16.000 Yeah.

01:06:17.000 Go ahead.

01:06:17.000 I'll tell you the whole deal.

01:06:18.000 I can't talk too much about it on the air.

01:06:20.000 Right.

01:06:21.000 But it's got two rooms.

01:06:23.000 One is 250 seats and one's going to be about 120 seats.

01:06:27.000 Perfect.

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:28.000 I'll give you the whole detail.

01:06:29.000 Oh, man.

01:06:30.000 I'm going to come down, man.

01:06:31.000 Oh, 100%.

01:06:31.000 Please.

01:06:32.000 Please.

01:06:32.000 Make safe makes you book me down here.

01:06:34.000 100%.

01:06:35.000 100%.

01:06:35.000 Come on down here.

01:06:36.000 I'm just not going on after you.

01:06:37.000 Stop it. 1.00

01:06:39.000 I'm going to put on someone after you that talks too much shit. 0.99

01:06:45.000 That's a lot of people. 0.99

01:06:46.000 There's a lot of people, man. 1.00

01:06:47.000 He talks a lot of shit. 1.00

01:06:48.000 There's a lot of people. 1.00

01:06:49.000 A lot of it.

01:06:50.000 But those kind of clubs, like the Comedy Store, or like what I'm going to plan on doing here, where you have a lot of people go on at night, I think there's a camaraderie to that.

01:06:59.000 There's a thing to that that you don't get when you're just doing the road by yourself.

01:07:03.000 Right.

01:07:04.000 And then it's a mixture.

01:07:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:06.000 One thing I do love about the Comedy Store...

01:07:08.000 They have a list of comedians and the people come in and they come out.

01:07:13.000 They're having a set show.

01:07:14.000 MC feature.

01:07:16.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:17.000 Just let it rotate.

01:07:19.000 I like the tag teaming too.

01:07:22.000 Each comic brings up the next comic.

01:07:24.000 I like that too.

01:07:25.000 It's beautiful.

01:07:27.000 It's a beautiful way to do it. 0.99

01:07:28.000 Mitzi Shore was a fucking genius. 1.00

01:07:30.000 She really was. 1.00

01:07:31.000 She was a genius.

01:07:32.000 I liked her.

01:07:34.000 She gave me confidence because I went to audition.

01:07:38.000 Yeah, you can go.

01:07:40.000 You can go, Earthquake.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, she sure gave it to me because I sure wasn't going to be no non-paying regular.

01:07:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:50.000 Watching the daughter get on stage.

01:07:52.000 I just couldn't take that process.

01:07:54.000 I was a non-paid regular.

01:07:56.000 I was a non-paid regular for like six months.

01:07:58.000 Yeah?

01:07:59.000 Yeah.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, I had kids.

01:08:01.000 I can't, yeah.

01:08:02.000 When you got a woman on your back, everything got to be paid. 1.00

01:08:06.000 Ain't such thin as non-paid.

01:08:08.000 Everything you're doing, you better bring some money home.

01:08:11.000 I came to L.A. in 94. I'd only been doing stand-up for like six years.

01:08:16.000 And I auditioned for Mitzi.

01:08:18.000 She goes, well, you can go on after the show.

01:08:21.000 You can be a non-paid regular.

01:08:23.000 And I was there every night.

01:08:26.000 I didn't have any friends.

01:08:27.000 I didn't know anybody.

01:08:28.000 I was on this terrible TV show.

01:08:29.000 So I was out there.

01:08:30.000 All I cared about was the Comedy Store.

01:08:32.000 That's all I cared about.

01:08:33.000 I was out there because that was Mecca.

01:08:36.000 When I started out in Boston in 1988, everybody would talk about the Comedy Store.

01:08:41.000 That's the Comedy Store.

01:08:42.000 Comedy Store in Hollywood.

01:08:44.000 That's what Richard Pryor would perform.

01:08:46.000 Sam Kinison would perform there.

01:08:48.000 Dice Clay would perform there. 0.76

01:08:49.000 You're like, whoa.

01:08:50.000 It was like this place, like a mythical place.

01:08:54.000 I remember the first time I went there, there was like a boat act on stage.

01:08:57.000 That guy was like a cruise.

01:08:58.000 It was terrible. 0.98

01:09:00.000 That guy was awful.

01:09:01.000 The crowd was half full.

01:09:02.000 I was like, this is the comedy store? 0.99

01:09:04.000 Like, what the fuck happened? 1.00

01:09:06.000 It killed your dreams. 1.00

01:09:07.000 Well, it just was a dose of reality.

01:09:09.000 Because the comedy store goes in these waves.

01:09:13.000 And like in the 80s, it was Pryor.

01:09:17.000 And he was this massive star.

01:09:19.000 Right.

01:09:19.000 All the celebrities who would come to the comedy store to see him.

01:09:22.000 And, of course, there was always Robin Williams was there, and David Letterman was there.

01:09:26.000 There was all these other comedians who were there, too.

01:09:28.000 But it was propelled by the gravity of Richard Pryor.

01:09:33.000 And then in the 80s, later in the 80s, it was Kinison.

01:09:38.000 I came in when all that was gone, and there was no big comic there.

01:09:42.000 There was no one guy.

01:09:45.000 So there's always, for whatever reason, been a few big-name guys.

01:09:49.000 And I got in in 94 where there was this lull.

01:09:52.000 So I got to see these guys that hung around too long, and they had the same act for 30 years, and they were half-assed, and they were bitter, and they hated young guys like me.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:10:04.000 That's what I said.

01:10:05.000 Angry.

01:10:05.000 Yeah.

01:10:06.000 You from Boston?

01:10:07.000 Yeah.

01:10:07.000 Well, I was born in New Jersey.

01:10:09.000 Okay.

01:10:09.000 But I grew up in Boston.

01:10:10.000 Okay.

01:10:11.000 That's where I started doing stand-up.

01:10:12.000 Okay.

01:10:13.000 Yeah.

01:10:13.000 And you came out there in 94?

01:10:15.000 I came out to LA in 94 because I came out with a sitcom.

01:10:19.000 I was already on a sitcom.

01:10:20.000 Okay.

01:10:21.000 Called Hardball.

01:10:22.000 It was a baseball sitcom on Fox.

01:10:24.000 Ooh.

01:10:24.000 Nobody watched it.

01:10:25.000 But see, that's what I'm saying.

01:10:27.000 Came out with a show.

01:10:29.000 Yeah.

01:10:29.000 Boy, I swear, man.

01:10:31.000 I know.

01:10:31.000 Some of y'all, bro.

01:10:33.000 You just, you just, god damn. 1.00

01:10:34.000 I got a golden horseshoe. 1.00

01:10:36.000 I mean, come on, brother.

01:10:38.000 Then Fear Factor.

01:10:39.000 No, it was on another show after that called News Radio.

01:10:42.000 So I was on a sitcom for five years. 0.99

01:10:44.000 Say god damn another one! 0.99

01:10:45.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:45.000 So I did that sitcom for five years, and then I did Fear Factor for six years. 0.99

01:10:50.000 So it was like bang, bang, bang.

01:10:52.000 How did you get Fear Factor? 0.83

01:10:54.000 Man, I showed up for the audition stoned because they told me about it and I thought it was ridiculous.

01:11:00.000 And one of the guys who was the casting agent had cast me on news radio.

01:11:05.000 So it was still an NBC show.

01:11:06.000 And they were trying to do this show and they knew that I had a martial arts background.

01:11:10.000 And they thought, well, that would probably be good because this is kind of scary.

01:11:13.000 We're trying to make it scary.

01:11:14.000 I showed up stoned.

01:11:16.000 And I was laughing at everything, because that was like my getting high every day stage of life.

01:11:21.000 So I was there and I was like, you're gonna sit dogs on people? 0.99

01:11:24.000 Like what the fuck is wrong with you? 0.99

01:11:26.000 And I was laughing, like slapping the table in the meeting, and I was just making fun of everything. 0.99

01:11:31.000 And one of the producers was like, he's not right for the show.

01:11:33.000 And the other guy was like, listen, if you, this is my friend to this day, David Hurwitz, he said, if you don't make fun of this, if he doesn't make fun of this, other people are going to.

01:11:42.000 Let him make fun of it.

01:11:44.000 This is what you want. 0.99

01:11:45.000 This is a ridiculous show. 1.00

01:11:46.000 We're making people eat animal dicks and we're sticking dogs on them. 1.00

01:11:49.000 You need a comedian to go, what the fuck are we doing? 1.00

01:11:53.000 And so that's how I got it. 0.99

01:11:55.000 They had a totally different idea before I came in.

01:11:58.000 They wanted someone to fear is definitely a factor for you.

01:12:02.000 They wanted like a sports...

01:12:04.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:12:05.000 The monotone-ass radio dudes. 0.97

01:12:08.000 Exactly. 0.97

01:12:09.000 They wanted someone who was cookie cutter.

01:12:10.000 I had a name.

01:12:12.000 I was on a sitcom.

01:12:14.000 It was like, this would work.

01:12:15.000 I've already been on NBC for five years.

01:12:17.000 This would be a good transition.

01:12:20.000 See?

01:12:20.000 Yeah.

01:12:21.000 See how being you...

01:12:22.000 Now, everybody else that walked in that moment took advice.

01:12:27.000 Right.

01:12:27.000 This is how you should get it.

01:12:29.000 Yeah.

01:12:29.000 Notes.

01:12:30.000 You understand?

01:12:31.000 Directions and this is what they looking for. 1.00

01:12:34.000 And you took your high ass in there. 1.00

01:12:38.000 And said, fuck it. 1.00

01:12:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:40.000 And got the job.

01:12:41.000 That's what...

01:12:41.000 I mean...

01:12:43.000 And it's...

01:12:43.000 That's...

01:12:45.000 And if anybody listening to me, especially community, that is the key...

01:12:49.000 You have to be you.

01:12:50.000 Just be you.

01:12:53.000 Can't nobody tell you else how to be you.

01:12:55.000 And it took me a while to do that.

01:12:57.000 Because, you know, when I tell people I don't write, oh, hey, you should write and rehearse this.

01:13:03.000 I say, man, it comes out already.

01:13:05.000 Just turn the mic on and let me do it.

01:13:07.000 And it kills me.

01:13:09.000 What's your first joke going to be?

01:13:11.000 What's your second joke going to be?

01:13:13.000 Listen.

01:13:15.000 I don't know.

01:13:16.000 But I will stop in seven minutes.

01:13:19.000 You understand?

01:13:20.000 Just, I don't know.

01:13:23.000 If I can't cuss, I won't cuss.

01:13:25.000 But I will stop in seven minutes, if seven minutes is the lot of time.

01:13:29.000 You do it right for you.

01:13:31.000 That's you being you.

01:13:33.000 Yeah.

01:13:33.000 Some guys have to write.

01:13:34.000 I write. 0.99

01:13:35.000 I write and then I do fuck around too on stage, but I sit down in front of my computer and I write. 0.97

01:13:40.000 And some bits come to me from that that I never would have got any other way. 0.99

01:13:44.000 And then I still have to fuck around on stage too. 0.99

01:13:46.000 I have to do all of them. 0.99

01:13:48.000 But some guys, their whole thing is written. 0.98

01:13:51.000 George Carlin used to write every fucking word he said. 0.99

01:13:53.000 Everything was written out. 1.00

01:13:55.000 He would write like a monologue, and then he would punch it up.

01:13:57.000 Yeah, I believe it.

01:13:59.000 Jay-Z apparently doesn't write any of his lyrics.

01:14:01.000 Right.

01:14:02.000 Keeps them all in his head.

01:14:03.000 Right.

01:14:03.000 I mean, it's Bill Burr.

01:14:05.000 Bill Burr doesn't write.

01:14:07.000 He comes up with bits, works on them. 0.99

01:14:10.000 He'll make like a set list maybe of shit he's going to do, but it's all in his head. 0.96

01:14:14.000 He's all just constantly working on it in his head. 0.99

01:14:16.000 Yeah.

01:14:16.000 And he's one of the best alive.

01:14:18.000 The whole thing is, it's depending on who you are.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, what's right for you is right for you.

01:14:24.000 There is no right way.

01:14:25.000 The results is the right way.

01:14:28.000 It's just hard to be yourself. 0.99

01:14:29.000 The fear factor thing, I was only myself because I didn't give a fuck. 0.98

01:14:34.000 I didn't think it was going anywhere. 0.96

01:14:36.000 And I had a development deal, so I was like, what do you want me to do? 0.98

01:14:39.000 Like, what the fuck is this? 0.84

01:14:41.000 Because I wanted to do another sitcom, and then they came with this, and I was like, this is even better, because now I don't have to work with actors. 0.99

01:14:47.000 I mean, this would be so much better.

01:14:49.000 Because working with actors is...

01:14:50.000 I got lucky with news radio, because it was a really talented cast, and they were fun people. 0.75

01:14:55.000 But I had done some other shit with people where they're fake, and it's a nightmare, and you gotta play the game, and they're all reading The Hollywood Reporter and Variety every day. 0.61

01:15:03.000 I'm like, I am not like you people. 0.89

01:15:05.000 At all.

01:15:05.000 I can't wait to go to the comedy store tonight.

01:15:07.000 I'm just here because you're gonna give me a lot of money.

01:15:10.000 And they're some of the most insecure people in the world.

01:15:13.000 They're so weird.

01:15:14.000 Oh, they're weird. 0.60

01:15:15.000 They're so fake. 0.53

01:15:16.000 That's why I would never, ever could marry an actress.

01:15:20.000 I never believe her.

01:15:21.000 I love you with all my heart.

01:15:25.000 Baby, you're important to me.

01:15:27.000 Sing.

01:15:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:15:30.000 Just nothing is, and I really think, especially when they do this method, I say, why are you doing all this studying, being somebody else?

01:15:39.000 Who's developing you during that time?

01:15:41.000 While you sitting here playing this actress, doing all the different nuances of this person, doing all these, but just acting them for months and months, being, who's developing you at that?

01:15:55.000 Do you just stop your growth at this point? 1.00

01:15:57.000 Say, fuck it. 1.00

01:15:58.000 I'm already reached the potential I want in myself. 1.00

01:16:00.000 Let me go play this motherfucker for a while. 1.00

01:16:03.000 You gotta be a crazy person to be really good at it. 1.00

01:16:06.000 But, some of them aren't. 0.99

01:16:08.000 Like, I've met actors and actresses that are cool as fuck, that are real normal, and real friendly. 0.68

01:16:14.000 But, it's just not worth the risk. 0.97

01:16:17.000 Yeah. 0.76

01:16:17.000 The risk is, 8 out of 10 are crazy. 0.76

01:16:20.000 Crazy. 0.70

01:16:21.000 There's some of them that are great people.

01:16:23.000 They're really nice and normal.

01:16:24.000 They just love acting.

01:16:26.000 They love being able to pretend that you're a different person, just dive into the role and become that.

01:16:31.000 You know, you got these people that can do that.

01:16:34.000 They transform themselves with each movie.

01:16:36.000 They're a different person.

01:16:37.000 That's a real craft.

01:16:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:16:39.000 But eight out of ten of them are just crazy people. 0.99

01:16:41.000 And I believe it stumped their growth. 0.99

01:16:43.000 And at one point, I'd be like, God damn, who am I talking to? 0.98

01:16:47.000 You or Earl that you played last week. 0.99

01:16:50.000 You know what I mean?

01:16:51.000 So you sit back on it.

01:16:53.000 I just can't deal with actresses that way. 1.00

01:16:55.000 Well, especially with what we do, which is you try so hard to be authentic.

01:17:01.000 Yes.

01:17:01.000 Like, the whole thing is avoid anything that takes you out of being authentic.

01:17:04.000 True.

01:17:05.000 And what that is is the exact opposite.

01:17:07.000 It's like you have to pretend you're this dude who lives in, like, Virginia in 1600. And you're talking in that dialect when you're ordering food.

01:17:17.000 Exactly.

01:17:17.000 Like, you won't break character.

01:17:18.000 Like, what are you doing, man?

01:17:20.000 No one talks like that anymore.

01:17:21.000 Don't call me.

01:17:22.000 My name is King Earl.

01:17:24.000 Don't call me a teenager or have your kids call.

01:17:27.000 It's just too much.

01:17:28.000 People that get into character and they stay into character for days and days.

01:17:31.000 Yes.

01:17:32.000 I remember I was reading this article where Jon Voight, you know, the famous actor, he's the father of Angelina Jolie.

01:17:39.000 True.

01:17:39.000 And Angelina Jolie and Jon Voight would talk on the phone in character.

01:17:45.000 That's how they are.

01:17:46.000 I'm like, I'm out.

01:17:47.000 I'm out.

01:17:48.000 That's it.

01:17:49.000 You're asking too much.

01:17:50.000 If my daughter ever talked to me on the phone in character, I would drive over to her house. 0.99

01:17:53.000 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

01:17:55.000 I'm your dad. 1.00

01:17:58.000 I don't want to hear about this fake Debbie lady you play from Brooklyn. 1.00

01:18:02.000 I want to talk to you.

01:18:04.000 This is Debbie Dad.

01:18:06.000 Yeah, I'm Debbie Dad.

01:18:08.000 This is who I am today. 1.00

01:18:09.000 No, fuck you. 1.00

01:18:11.000 You're my daughter. 1.00

01:18:12.000 Talk normal.

01:18:13.000 This is crazy.

01:18:14.000 I mean, but again, I wouldn't say they're all nuts because I've met a lot of them that are very sincere.

01:18:21.000 They're nice people, but it's just not worth the risk.

01:18:23.000 At all.

01:18:24.000 And then especially in the real one is the acting coaches.

01:18:30.000 I want you to go deep down and grab that feeling when you was treated wrong and remember that and translate that into the character.

01:18:40.000 I don't want to open none of these doors. 0.99

01:18:44.000 Open up these doors, fuck around, be on some hair on by Friday. 0.99

01:18:48.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:18:48.000 Find out my father really didn't love me. 1.00

01:18:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:52.000 No, I'm good.

01:18:53.000 I'm a functional adult, and I can deal with everything.

01:18:56.000 I don't want to know nothing else.

01:18:58.000 I don't want to know what circumstances my mother did to give me away.

01:19:02.000 I don't want to know why she did.

01:19:04.000 None of that.

01:19:05.000 I am good, okay?

01:19:06.000 I sleep well at night.

01:19:08.000 I am good with my...

01:19:09.000 No, you got to find that pain and translate that pain into the character, and that way is authentic.

01:19:17.000 I said, if I can't just play like I'm crying without remembering when something really hurt me, I'm not your guy. 0.99

01:19:26.000 I am not your fucking guy. 0.99

01:19:28.000 And again, I am not an actor. 0.99

01:19:30.000 I'm a movie star.

01:19:31.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 That's the difference.

01:19:33.000 Yeah.

01:19:33.000 Okay?

01:19:34.000 So we're not going down that way.

01:19:36.000 That's where it is.

01:19:37.000 It starts from the teaching of those acting coaches, because they ask you that all the time.

01:19:45.000 Go deep.

01:19:46.000 I remember I had the fire acting coach over there.

01:19:48.000 You're not going in the deep.

01:19:50.000 Okay, let's sit down.

01:19:52.000 And just talk about the most painful thing that ever happened to you in your life.

01:19:56.000 And that way, if you can tap into that, you can bring this character to life.

01:20:00.000 I said, listen, lady, I'm going to waste my $55 here. 1.00

01:20:06.000 Because I will not be here tomorrow with this kind of shit at all. 0.99

01:20:11.000 Especially when you can be a comic. 0.99

01:20:12.000 That was my take.

01:20:14.000 I remember I was on the set of NewsRadio once, and one of the guys who was a producer said, why do you still do comedy?

01:20:20.000 You're an actor now. 0.97

01:20:23.000 And when he said that, I was like, oh my god, I gotta get the fuck out of here. 0.97

01:20:27.000 True.

01:20:27.000 I'm like, I gotta get out of here.

01:20:29.000 You guys are out of your fucking mind. 1.00

01:20:30.000 Do you know how much better comedy is than this? 1.00

01:20:32.000 Even though this was comedy because it was a sitcom, there's no fucking comparison. 0.94

01:20:38.000 Not at all. 0.95

01:20:38.000 Everybody would look forward to the laughs that they would get when they would perform a scene in front of the crowd. 0.95

01:20:43.000 Everybody wanted to get a good laugh.

01:20:44.000 I'm like, I do that every night.

01:20:46.000 I do it every night.

01:20:47.000 I don't have to deal with an actor.

01:20:49.000 I don't have to deal with a producer or a director.

01:20:51.000 It's just me.

01:20:52.000 True.

01:20:53.000 And I get the bigger...

01:20:54.000 And my results are bigger than yours.

01:20:57.000 A lot bigger.

01:20:59.000 And you can ride them, and you can fuck around and do different things with it. 0.99

01:21:04.000 You don't have to, like, cut. 0.99

01:21:05.000 That's not in the script.

01:21:07.000 Like, it's free.

01:21:09.000 You're free.

01:21:10.000 Very free.

01:21:10.000 Let me ask you something.

01:21:11.000 When you was a comedian, did they surround you with...

01:21:15.000 Did you establish actors and just allow you to play off of them, or you had to conform to being an actor as an acting comedian?

01:21:26.000 Well, luckily on news radio, the producers were brilliant, and they wanted us to ad lib.

01:21:32.000 They wanted us.

01:21:33.000 So there was Dave Foley, who's from the Kids in the Hall, the sketch show, and Dave It was a like one of the secret producers of the show really because he was the star of the show But he was really like producing scenes so we would rehearse and he would come up with completely new lines for things and If you had a line that was better than the line that was in the script they wanted you to say that so they wanted you to They wanted it to be collaborative where you would come up with the best shit. 0.98

01:22:01.000 So there was fun in that. 1.00

01:22:02.000 And we would write jokes for each other and we would fuck around with each other. 0.97

01:22:06.000 So it was very fortunate that that particular job was, you know, it was okay. 1.00

01:22:13.000 You could fuck around. 1.00

01:22:14.000 I'm laughing, Joe, because you had a great life, man. 1.00

01:22:17.000 Lucky! 0.97

01:22:18.000 Very lucky.

01:22:19.000 Blessed, lucky, whatever adjective you want.

01:22:21.000 But that's a great life, to have a person in a position to understand your strength and allow you to utilize it.

01:22:28.000 You have so many people.

01:22:31.000 You can't change the actor, the writer's words.

01:22:34.000 That was all his birds. 1.00

01:22:36.000 And I'm going to look at him and say, this shit is corny. 1.00

01:22:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:22:40.000 You hired me because you said me.

01:22:42.000 Right.

01:22:43.000 But you want me to say something that I wouldn't say.

01:22:46.000 Exactly.

01:22:46.000 Or say it like that.

01:22:48.000 But alright, the Czechs say this.

01:22:50.000 Come on down here, little laryl. 1.00

01:22:53.000 Come on down here, little girl! 1.00

01:22:56.000 I did that for the first show, though, that sitcom that I did, the baseball show.

01:23:00.000 That was terrible.

01:23:01.000 I learned a lot from that because that was terrible and it started out great.

01:23:05.000 The guys who wrote it, they wrote on Married with Children and The Symptoms.

01:23:08.000 They were really good writers and they were really funny guys. 0.95

01:23:11.000 And they put together this pilot Jim Brewer was in the pilot with me and it was a very funny pilot but then once it got on television Fox decided to hire some dude who was a producer of that show coach and like all cookie cutter type right stand up or Sitcom writing and they brought in a bunch of hacks and they they fucked up the show and it was terrible like I remember saying lines like I can't believe this is a line on a fucking sitcom and It was just not good.

01:23:42.000 And there were talented people on the show, but it was just a bad show.

01:23:45.000 And then it got canceled.

01:23:47.000 And so to go from that to news radio, which was the opposite, working with Phil Hartman and all these seriously talented people, Steven Rood and Maura Tierney, Candy Alexander, Vicky Lewis, Andy Dick is like, this is a great show. 0.98

01:24:00.000 Like, holy shit. 0.83

01:24:01.000 It was like, I can't believe how good everybody is. 1.00

01:24:04.000 And then there was a freedom to fuck around. 0.99

01:24:06.000 So I had the worst case scenario and then followed by the best case scenario. 0.99

01:24:12.000 Yeah, that's, I mean, you've been very fortunate on that because all my scenarios were fucked up. 0.92

01:24:20.000 I mean, I mean, it is. 0.93

01:24:22.000 You just read it. 0.99

01:24:23.000 You be like, God damn, who wrote this? 1.00

01:24:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:27.000 Give me a little leeway on it.

01:24:29.000 A comic that has to do bad lines in a sitcom is in hell.

01:24:32.000 Hell.

01:24:33.000 Hell.

01:24:34.000 What is his name?

01:24:34.000 Oh, he told me this off of Seinfeld.

01:24:37.000 Richards?

01:24:38.000 What is his name?

01:24:39.000 Michael Richards?

01:24:39.000 Michael Richards.

01:24:41.000 He said, Quake, you're going to be on the show.

01:24:44.000 You're going to have your own show, but I want you to remember one thing.

01:24:47.000 Whatever show you do, you're going to be on there.

01:24:51.000 You're committing five years of your life if it's going to be successful.

01:24:55.000 You want to go there and get the same joy that you do on stage.

01:24:59.000 You don't want to go there five years of a job of hell.

01:25:03.000 Right.

01:25:03.000 And I took that and I kept it.

01:25:07.000 So now when I make decisions, I'm like, do I see myself doing this for five years?

01:25:12.000 No.

01:25:13.000 Okay.

01:25:13.000 I don't want to play this role for five years.

01:25:15.000 That's a good mindset.

01:25:16.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:25:17.000 Because we all know those guys who get on a show that sucks and they just take the money. 0.80

01:25:23.000 All they want to do is buy things. 0.96

01:25:25.000 They just want to give themselves little rewards.

01:25:28.000 They're always unhappy.

01:25:29.000 They're like, I can't wait to buy a new jacket or a new car or a new this.

01:25:32.000 They're always just concentrating on the rewards that they get rather than the reward they get from the actual work.

01:25:38.000 Yeah.

01:25:39.000 I mean, because you...

01:25:40.000 To be honest with you, you need something to justify this hell that you're in.

01:25:45.000 You know what I mean? 0.78

01:25:45.000 Because you're in hell. 0.78

01:25:47.000 You could look at some sets and you're like, I would love to be in that.

01:25:51.000 You could look at like Martin.

01:25:52.000 You could tell that was a great place to go to work.

01:25:55.000 Living Color was a great place to go to work.

01:25:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:59.000 It wasn't work. 0.99

01:25:59.000 We was all friends coming up with some shit and we just put it on tape. 0.99

01:26:03.000 That's what you want. 0.99

01:26:04.000 That's what you want, but those are hard to get.

01:26:07.000 Those are and one of the worst things that happens is some of the guys to get those sitcoms that are shitty is They can't do stand-up anymore because they're worried that if they do stand-up And they and people find out that they're dirty or they said something crazy Then they'll get fired from the show, right?

01:26:23.000 There's a lot of guys that like how to stop doing stand-up while they got a sitcom Because and I strongly believe this that's why a lot of lose their fans see prime example Whatever show that I do is gonna be the biggest show for most of my audience to see me.

01:26:43.000 So that's gonna be their interpretation of who I am.

01:26:46.000 So I must portray who I am in my first venture on TV. Yeah.

01:26:53.000 So I can bring my fans Who sees me, who already been fans of mine, they can recognize me in that.

01:27:00.000 And then the people who just see me for the first time can come see me on stand-up and say, okay, that's who I got.

01:27:06.000 A lot of comedians, like my boy Mark Curry, had his show.

01:27:13.000 Mr. Cooper.

01:27:14.000 Mr. Cooper, good dude, man.

01:27:16.000 Then they go see Mr. Cooper.

01:27:17.000 He's from Oakland, California.

01:27:19.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:20.000 These bitches and these hoes, oh my god, Mr. Cooper, what are you talking about now? 1.00

01:27:25.000 You alienated. 1.00

01:27:27.000 The people who like Mr. Cooper.

01:27:29.000 Right.

01:27:29.000 And the people who supported you when you was the cussing and the comedian see you playing Mr. Cooper like that ain't the mark we know.

01:27:36.000 Right.

01:27:37.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:27:38.000 So you don't get to transfer.

01:27:39.000 Most comedians who blow, I have learned this a long time, play themselves in their first major production.

01:27:47.000 So they bring their current fan and expand their base and their brand bigger in them.

01:27:55.000 Martin playing Martin.

01:27:56.000 Steve Harvey playing Steve Harvey.

01:27:58.000 Cat playing Cat.

01:28:00.000 Eddie Murphy being Eddie Murphy.

01:28:02.000 All of them that blew on that.

01:28:04.000 Now, all the comedians that did other things and went into as a character actor or comedy actor and didn't bring their stand-up with them, what they was known for, died.

01:28:18.000 It's true. 0.93

01:28:19.000 Burnt in hell.

01:28:20.000 And the way they did it, because they alienated both.

01:28:22.000 They alienated the people who support them to get them that point, and then when they got to that point, the people who just saw them for the first time wanted to go see them do stand-up and was insulted.

01:28:33.000 It's like it's the Urkel rule.

01:28:35.000 No matter what Urkel do, he's always going to be Urkel.

01:28:38.000 I love Jaleel.

01:28:39.000 He can be anything, but you're going to see him as Urkel.

01:28:41.000 Because that was the first he was introduced to as Urkel.

01:28:46.000 And people are always going to see him as Urkel.

01:28:49.000 Now, if he was a comedian, he would never work again.

01:28:53.000 Because if he was a stand-up comedian doing all that, no, that ain't Urkel.

01:28:58.000 And if you supported him, you're like, why are you out here selling out playing this dude like this?

01:29:03.000 That ain't that hard, my man. 1.00

01:29:05.000 And Urkels, Janelle, smoke herbs, hang out, he's a real motherfucker. 0.99

01:29:10.000 Doesn't he sell weed now? 1.00

01:29:11.000 Yeah, he sell weed now.

01:29:13.000 That'll kill somebody back in Family Matter. 1.00

01:29:15.000 They found Urkels out this motherfucker. 1.00

01:29:18.000 I smoked some of his weed. 1.00

01:29:20.000 It was good.

01:29:20.000 I met him after the show.

01:29:21.000 He was telling me he grows his own weed and sells weed.

01:29:24.000 Yeah, but it'll kill somebody right now if they found out Urkel was selling weed.

01:29:30.000 It'll traumatize their childhood.

01:29:32.000 That's true, yeah.

01:29:34.000 Mark Curry's a brilliant comic.

01:29:36.000 He's a brilliant comic, and he's very different than he is on Hanging with Mr. Cooper, which is like a very family, easy, soft show.

01:29:43.000 It's like a nice show.

01:29:45.000 Nice guy. 0.99

01:29:46.000 But you watch Mark Curry on stage, he's a funny fucking dude. 0.99

01:29:50.000 And a great guy. 0.99

01:29:51.000 Great guy.

01:29:52.000 Great guy.

01:29:53.000 Edgy as hell. 1.00

01:29:55.000 So if you enter that family, ABC, 830, hanging with Mr. Cooper, role model for the kids and everything, you go over here saying, man, I'm fucking all these women tonight. 1.00

01:30:07.000 You're like, oh my God. 0.99

01:30:09.000 I think you could say the same with Damon Wayans now.

01:30:13.000 Yeah, you think so?

01:30:14.000 Yeah, because Damon, you know, he had that sitcom he did for a long time.

01:30:17.000 Okay.

01:30:18.000 You don't see him doing...

01:30:20.000 I mean, if you go to see him live, you'll still see wild comedy.

01:30:24.000 Right.

01:30:24.000 Yes, you will.

01:30:25.000 But Damon's in that sort of big money sitcom world where they keep giving him these shows where he's the star of a show and he's like a dad and he's like...

01:30:35.000 Family man and he's got the children.

01:30:37.000 It's like a family sitcom.

01:30:39.000 There's a lot of money in those family sitcoms.

01:30:41.000 I know.

01:30:41.000 That's what I'm trying to get.

01:30:43.000 Is that what you want to do?

01:30:44.000 I do want to have a TV show.

01:30:45.000 I want to do a TV. I want to do more movies.

01:30:48.000 I'm going to do another hour.

01:30:50.000 I'm going to do an hour.

01:30:52.000 I'm going to do another special and tour.

01:30:55.000 I'm going to do the things.

01:30:57.000 Write a book about my struggle.

01:30:59.000 Talk to Kev about that.

01:31:02.000 Yeah, everything that come in the make-it bag for comedians.

01:31:05.000 You know, they call it the make-it bag.

01:31:07.000 You get the book deal, the TV show, the tour, the movies, the fine chick.

01:31:13.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:31:13.000 All the shit that come with the make-it bag. 0.99

01:31:16.000 The make-it bag. 1.00

01:31:17.000 Yeah, it's the make-it bag.

01:31:18.000 I made it bag.

01:31:19.000 These are all the things that comes in it.

01:31:21.000 You just pull it out.

01:31:22.000 You get to host everything and all that type of thing.

01:31:25.000 Pull into the comic store in the best car.

01:31:27.000 Yeah!

01:31:28.000 And you just park in the back and they say, yeah, man, you going up today?

01:31:32.000 Nah, I'm just here to chill. 0.99

01:31:33.000 Oh, God damn. 0.99

01:31:34.000 Can I get you a drink? 1.00

01:31:35.000 Make it back.

01:31:38.000 Can I get you a drink?

01:31:39.000 Yeah, thank you very much.

01:31:41.000 Give me an 18-year scotch McAllen.

01:31:43.000 I'm just gonna sit back here.

01:31:46.000 The book thing is a hard one.

01:31:49.000 That's real work.

01:31:51.000 That's a lot of work.

01:31:52.000 I had a book deal.

01:31:53.000 I gave him the money back.

01:31:54.000 Did you?

01:31:55.000 Yeah.

01:31:55.000 I started writing chapters, and they were like, well, we'd like it to be more of this.

01:31:59.000 And I was like, I'm good.

01:32:02.000 I'm going to give you the money back.

01:32:03.000 I can't do this.

01:32:04.000 Like, there was too much editorial control.

01:32:06.000 At one point in time, they asked me to transcribe my stand-up.

01:32:10.000 They said, that's what we want to do.

01:32:11.000 I go, what?

01:32:12.000 I go, but people can go see it live.

01:32:14.000 I go, if you read it, it's not the same thing.

01:32:16.000 Not at all.

01:32:17.000 But they were like, but Jerry Seinfeld did it.

01:32:19.000 I go, yeah, well, that's Jerry Seinfeld.

01:32:21.000 George Carlin did it.

01:32:22.000 I'm like, well, they probably needed the money.

01:32:25.000 Well, Jerry didn't, but maybe they did it because they thought that was a good way to do it.

01:32:29.000 I don't think it's a good way to do it for me.

01:32:30.000 I don't want to do that.

01:32:32.000 Well, I might have a ghost ride.

01:32:34.000 Yeah?

01:32:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:35.000 I ain't writing that shit. 1.00

01:32:39.000 I ain't writing that shit. 1.00

01:32:40.000 I'm like, this is what happened to me now. 0.99

01:32:42.000 Put it into words.

01:32:44.000 I'm going to sit down and go over it.

01:32:46.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:46.000 I'm going to have a ghostwriter.

01:32:48.000 Do you have a set of stories that you want to get out?

01:32:53.000 Probably.

01:32:54.000 As I reflect, I'm a today person.

01:32:57.000 I live in the moment.

01:32:58.000 So yesterday is gone.

01:33:00.000 Ain't nothing you can do with it.

01:33:01.000 Ain't nothing she can do for me.

01:33:03.000 It's like a woman that's gone. 0.99

01:33:05.000 So I would have to sit back and reflect.

01:33:07.000 And usually for me to do it, I would have to be with friends that made that ride with me.

01:33:12.000 So as they remind me, yeah, yeah, yeah, put that in there.

01:33:16.000 Yeah, yeah, put that in there.

01:33:18.000 So how will you do that? 0.83

01:33:19.000 Will you have someone come with you on the road and just talk to them occasionally and have them write shit down, record it?

01:33:24.000 Well, I have a literary person that does a lot of books that also worked for me in my comedy club.

01:33:31.000 So she's been trying to get me to do it for the longest.

01:33:34.000 And now that it's coming to fruition, I'm going to allow her to be the point person on it.

01:33:39.000 And I supplied the stories and she'll write it all up for me.

01:33:43.000 So you're already in motion with this?

01:33:45.000 No, we talked about it.

01:33:46.000 We've been talking about it for the last three or four years.

01:33:48.000 I said I would do it when the...

01:33:51.000 Opportunity prevents itself.

01:33:53.000 See, I'm not that kind of person around here.

01:33:56.000 I'm not a supermarket type dude.

01:33:58.000 Please, you know the test.

01:33:59.000 Try this, please.

01:34:01.000 Would you do this?

01:34:02.000 This is tied 2%, 2 ounces.

01:34:05.000 Try it if you like it.

01:34:06.000 You can come over here and get the whole thing.

01:34:07.000 I'm not.

01:34:09.000 Who's going to do the deal?

01:34:10.000 Let's do it.

01:34:11.000 If you don't want me, I don't want you.

01:34:13.000 But I'm damn sure I ain't knocking on your door talking, I got a book, can you do it?

01:34:17.000 No, no, no.

01:34:18.000 So I really believe when it's your time, it's your time, and then it'll fall in place.

01:34:24.000 And that's what I'm going to do.

01:34:25.000 Now that the opportunity is to present itself, Then I got a person that we've been talking about for the last five years that'll take care of it for me.

01:34:32.000 So that's one part of the make it bag.

01:34:34.000 Yeah.

01:34:35.000 Book deal.

01:34:35.000 Yeah.

01:34:36.000 What's the big one?

01:34:37.000 Is it starring in a movie?

01:34:39.000 Is it starring in a sitcom?

01:34:41.000 Both.

01:34:42.000 Both.

01:34:42.000 Yes.

01:34:43.000 I want, you know, I do what you do.

01:34:45.000 I have a radio show.

01:34:46.000 You got the podcast.

01:34:47.000 I got to talk to you too.

01:34:48.000 I ain't gonna make it over here like you doing.

01:34:53.000 I've been watching YouTube saying, boy, I got to talk to Joe. 0.99

01:34:56.000 God damn it now. 0.99

01:34:57.000 Um, Yes, I want to have a hit. 0.99

01:35:01.000 I think I can hold the country's attention for 22 minutes if you give me a fantastic situation with some actors around.

01:35:09.000 Do you have an idea who you want to do it with?

01:35:13.000 Yeah, I thought I was going to work out something with CBS, but unfortunately it didn't come to fruition.

01:35:19.000 They played with me.

01:35:21.000 And so now we're just out here and see what we're going to do.

01:35:25.000 I would like to have a network television show.

01:35:27.000 I would like to...

01:35:29.000 Me and Donnell is starring in my first lead in a movie, so we got that one done.

01:35:34.000 What's that?

01:35:34.000 It's called Bedridden.

01:35:37.000 It's about a dude who's a very arrogant womanizer and finally, you know, karma catches up with him and he's temporarily paralyzed and he's bedridden and he's losing his company and wife at the same time trying to see how bad he'd inflict pain to his wife and his kids and those type of things.

01:35:58.000 And Donnell plays my brother on it, you know.

01:36:03.000 And we did that, and we did an independent movie together for that.

01:36:06.000 And I want to do more of that and my own sitcom around my life, that kind of thing, where I'm at now.

01:36:13.000 So around your life as a stand-up?

01:36:15.000 Yes.

01:36:16.000 Oh, like a...

01:36:17.000 Yeah, about to blow, and then I finally blow, and now the kids that I couldn't get to see, now they came and visit me and never left.

01:36:25.000 Now they living with me.

01:36:27.000 Yeah, that type of thing.

01:36:29.000 Yeah.

01:36:29.000 So you've been thinking about this for a while.

01:36:31.000 Yeah, we was in development for it.

01:36:33.000 We got all the way up to the president of CBS, but unfortunately he didn't see our view on it.

01:36:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:39.000 It's a gamble.

01:36:40.000 You know, they have like 30 shows and they have like four slots.

01:36:44.000 And so they'll have to, like, I've been in that developmental process.

01:36:48.000 It's a strange process when they're trying to figure out what's going to work and what's not going to work.

01:36:52.000 I mean, I get that too, but to give an honest shot, if you're going to give it to you, you at least got to shoot a pilot to see what you got.

01:36:59.000 I don't think you can sit down and say if it's good.

01:37:03.000 Like you just said, you can't tell if it's funny just off the paper.

01:37:06.000 No.

01:37:06.000 You have to sit here and put the players involved and then look at it and say, this is what you got.

01:37:13.000 If you honestly say that you're trying to give a show, and definitely...

01:37:18.000 If you say you're trying to have diversity on CBS, you have to at some point allow, you know, the actors to put it on or invest enough to see what you got tested and see is it.

01:37:32.000 I understand the four slots, but if you're going to sit here and say you're trying to do diversity with the NAACP, it's supposed to be a slot there already!

01:37:42.000 Supposed to be one there, or at least an opportunity for it.

01:37:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:46.000 So that's what I come into vain.

01:37:48.000 I never want to be anywhere that no one wants me to be.

01:37:52.000 But at some point in this game that we're doing, if you're not familiar with the...

01:38:03.000 The creative aspect of certain people, you have to at least see it and let someone else see, can this work?

01:38:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:12.000 That's the way it is.

01:38:13.000 I mean, I don't think anything should be killed just on the paper right there without you investing in the point to see it.

01:38:20.000 Especially if you was part of writing it itself.

01:38:24.000 And you were happy with the script and how it came out?

01:38:27.000 Yeah, I mean, we got write-ups from the president of the network, notes on it, on the script and everything, and then when it came to the point of, they said they passed up on it, and it was shocking to me to the point that we didn't even get a chance to even shoot the pallet for it.

01:38:43.000 Sometimes it's like a bunch of shit like the people that are producing it they don't have a good deal with the network or you know like sometimes the network wants to produce and own their own shows and maybe Warner Brothers will come to CBS or something they like it but Warner Brothers owns it so they don't want Warner Brothers to make a shitload of money and CBS has their own show they would rather take that even if it's not as good there was a lot of that at NBC Yeah,

01:39:07.000 but we was coming out of CBS Studios to CBS on there. 0.98

01:39:13.000 The writer had a deal already with CBS to write it, and I'm already on CBS while working on The Neighborhood.

01:39:19.000 So everything was in-house.

01:39:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:22.000 And then we did an announcement saying that it was part of the NAACP diversity to put more on there.

01:39:31.000 So I was shocked about that, to be quite honest with you.

01:39:34.000 And we're going to see what we're going to do with it because we're still on here.

01:39:37.000 But I do want to have a TV show.

01:39:41.000 Might end up being on Netflix.

01:39:43.000 So is this the past pilot season?

01:39:46.000 This happened about a week ago.

01:39:49.000 Oh, that's why you're so hot.

01:39:52.000 I'm not hot.

01:39:54.000 I mean...

01:39:57.000 I get it.

01:39:58.000 I mean, I just don't understand the process if you sing you want to include.

01:40:05.000 If you don't, then don't.

01:40:07.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:40:08.000 If you have a demographic that's happy where it is and you don't want to, God bless you.

01:40:20.000 But don't come over here.

01:40:21.000 It's equivalent to say, hey, I do country music.

01:40:26.000 Country music is good, but I want some R&B on here.

01:40:29.000 I want you to come over here and put some R&B song on our station.

01:40:34.000 Like, alright, I submit the song to you and you sit down here and you go over to work.

01:40:39.000 Nah, people don't want to hear that, don't hear that.

01:40:41.000 We reconstruct the whole song around after three or four rewrites of my song on it.

01:40:48.000 And then I said, okay, when are we going to go to the studio and cut the song?

01:40:53.000 And they said, nah.

01:40:55.000 We don't like the song. 1.00

01:40:58.000 You wrote the motherfucker. 1.00

01:41:01.000 I thought you said she wanted it on here. 0.99

01:41:04.000 Do you have an opportunity to do it at Netflix?

01:41:06.000 Because I think that's the best place.

01:41:09.000 I don't know.

01:41:09.000 I mean, you know the deal.

01:41:11.000 We couldn't go nowhere else while we was doing it with them.

01:41:14.000 Right.

01:41:15.000 It was there with them.

01:41:16.000 So we didn't get a chance.

01:41:18.000 Are you free?

01:41:18.000 I don't know what my situation is right now.

01:41:21.000 It just is fresh off of it.

01:41:23.000 It just happened this Friday.

01:41:25.000 Netflix is exciting to me for something with you doing it because you could be yourself.

01:41:30.000 Language, subject matter, no restrictions whatsoever, and no commercials. 0.99

01:41:35.000 Commercials are bullshit. 0.99

01:41:37.000 I know. 1.00

01:41:37.000 They're brutal. 1.00

01:41:38.000 When you watch these sitcoms and they have to cut everything into these little chunks so that it fits perfectly inside of a network break, it just doesn't work good.

01:41:47.000 It's not fun.

01:41:48.000 And then you have to sit there and watch the commercial and wait for it to come on, or you record it in advance, you have to fast forward through it.

01:41:55.000 With Netflix, You film the whole season.

01:41:58.000 You watch it all in one sitting if you want.

01:42:01.000 You can binge watch it.

01:42:02.000 You can pause it.

01:42:03.000 Right. 1.00

01:42:03.000 Go take a shit. 1.00

01:42:04.000 Come back. 1.00

01:42:05.000 Start it up again.

01:42:06.000 You know, it's a better format.

01:42:09.000 It's just better.

01:42:09.000 It's better because it's uncensored.

01:42:11.000 It's better because the programming on Netflix is better.

01:42:14.000 You know, we were talking about Ozark before the podcast. 0.98

01:42:17.000 God damn, that's a good show. 0.98

01:42:19.000 My friend Eric is the producer and creator. 0.99

01:42:22.000 Oh, really?

01:42:22.000 Yeah, he goes.

01:42:23.000 He wants to do something with us.

01:42:24.000 But I want to take anywhere that they want us.

01:42:28.000 Anywhere you want it.

01:42:29.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:31.000 Wherever you want it to allow me to be me.

01:42:33.000 I have no problem with any Any format.

01:42:37.000 Do you!

01:42:37.000 But if you're going to come and say you want to do us, and you want me to do us, then allow me to be me.

01:42:43.000 And negotiate.

01:42:47.000 But if it is, if this is what you want, then come in all good faith.

01:42:52.000 That's all.

01:42:53.000 You know, and it was very disappointing.

01:42:57.000 No, I understand.

01:42:58.000 It was very disappointing. 0.98

01:42:59.000 Like, a lot, and we've all been through, because I think Dave then had more fucking development deals than anybody in their life. 0.96

01:43:07.000 Oh, he's had a lot. 0.96

01:43:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:43:08.000 Shitloads. 0.99

01:43:09.000 It's just free money a lot of times. 0.99

01:43:11.000 Free money and meetings.

01:43:12.000 Yeah, well, we didn't get no money either.

01:43:15.000 No?

01:43:16.000 No money.

01:43:17.000 Nah, we didn't get no money.

01:43:18.000 They didn't give you money for the development deal to put together a second?

01:43:22.000 Nah, we didn't get no money.

01:43:24.000 That's just blunt.

01:43:27.000 That's like the I mean, no money either.

01:43:31.000 That one used to be like the whole thing about Montreal Comedy Festival.

01:43:34.000 Everybody get a development deal.

01:43:36.000 Yeah, you were talking about six, seven figures.

01:43:38.000 You was like, yes!

01:43:39.000 That money gone now.

01:43:41.000 They don't do that anymore?

01:43:42.000 No!

01:43:43.000 No, they'd sit around and probably give you about 18,000.

01:43:46.000 That's it.

01:43:47.000 Tell you just sit here. 1.00

01:43:49.000 Thank you for your shit. 1.00

01:43:50.000 You know, but you ain't... 1.00

01:43:52.000 No money.

01:43:53.000 And you're talking about five, six months.

01:43:55.000 And once you negotiate with them, of course you can't go to nobody else.

01:43:58.000 Exactly.

01:43:59.000 Because you're saying, hey man, I'm going to have this.

01:44:01.000 Six months.

01:44:02.000 Yeah, six months.

01:44:03.000 And they dangle that carrot. 1.00

01:44:04.000 Oh, they dangle that motherfucker. 1.00

01:44:06.000 I was around this bitch, just knew I was going, I was like, when is the Super Bowl going to be on CBS? Because I'm going to be on that motherfucker. 1.00

01:44:13.000 I can't wait until they give me the plug and the teaser. 0.99

01:44:17.000 Quake House today, 8 o'clock on CBS. And the motherfuckers call me up, boy, they get, boy, they give you that call. 0.99

01:44:25.000 That's the worst call in the world, though. 1.00

01:44:30.000 They found out they want to go another way.

01:44:33.000 Another way.

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 Like, well, Without even seeing it?

01:44:38.000 I mean, you ain't invest enough to even do a palette to see, to play it?

01:44:43.000 I mean, come on, man.

01:44:44.000 But that's the problem that I always had with Hollywood is you have to be chosen.

01:44:48.000 And that's one of the things that makes people so crazy.

01:44:50.000 Like, some people don't have the mental fortitude to withstand that kind of rejection over and over and over again or disappointment.

01:44:57.000 And, like, if you think about what, like, especially with actors, you get a bunch of people that are insecure, that are kind of crazy to begin with, and then they go to this place where they're asking you to pretend in this moment.

01:45:11.000 Like, okay, Quake, you're gonna sit down with Mike, and Mike is gonna play Sally.

01:45:16.000 So there's a guy pretending to play your wife.

01:45:18.000 And you're running through the scene with this person, and like, okay, well, thank you.

01:45:23.000 We'll be in touch.

01:45:24.000 And then you leave, and you're like, I don't even know how that was.

01:45:26.000 And you have to be chosen.

01:45:29.000 Yes.

01:45:30.000 So you start to see people behaving in a way they think the casting agent would like.

01:45:36.000 True.

01:45:36.000 Saying the kind of things they think the casting agent wants to hear.

01:45:40.000 True.

01:45:40.000 They adopt the politics of the casting agents.

01:45:44.000 True.

01:45:44.000 You know, they'll say something about a current event thing like, my heavens, like, why are we even doing this?

01:45:49.000 That's true.

01:45:49.000 Like, yes, why are we doing this thing?

01:45:52.000 Thank you, Joe.

01:45:53.000 We agree with you. 1.00

01:45:54.000 You feel like a piece of shit when you're getting a cup of coffee afterwards. 1.00

01:45:58.000 Like, what the fuck is wrong with me? 1.00

01:45:59.000 I'm a whore. 1.00

01:46:00.000 Hey, my lips are chapped in my ass. 1.00

01:46:02.000 I kissed trying to get this show, man. 1.00

01:46:08.000 I mean, it was...

01:46:09.000 But, you know, I never take it personal. 1.00

01:46:12.000 Because, again, like my mother said, you can't get mad at somebody that ain't gonna let you fuck with that shit. 1.00

01:46:17.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:46:18.000 At the point...

01:46:20.000 And people ask me all the time, you know, like Quake, my fans say it to me. 0.99

01:46:24.000 Quake, you the funniest motherfucker. 0.97

01:46:26.000 Why you ain't got no TV show? 1.00

01:46:28.000 Why you ain't got no movies? 0.99

01:46:29.000 I say, ain't like I turned the shit down. 0.97

01:46:31.000 Ain't like I say, hey, yeah, I don't want to be on CBS. I'd rather be in Lackland, Florida or somewhere else. 0.99

01:46:39.000 But it's subjective.

01:46:41.000 What's funny to somebody is not funny to another.

01:46:44.000 So I always...

01:46:46.000 The way I took it is that I just haven't made the right person laugh yet.

01:46:50.000 Who will believe in me to sit here and give me the opportunities that my peers didn't have.

01:46:57.000 And until I break that person who believes in me, that sees that I am a valuable commodity that could do both me and them a great service in what they say they're here to make, Entertainment and TV shows, 0.98

01:47:14.000 then I will always be sitting at the door with this bullshit. 0.97

01:47:17.000 And it won't. 0.99

01:47:19.000 And I don't even take it personally, man. 0.95

01:47:21.000 I'm so fucking used to it. 0.92

01:47:23.000 I try not to put myself out there. 0.98

01:47:27.000 So you feel the pain.

01:47:28.000 So you don't feel the pain.

01:47:29.000 Yeah, because disappointment is the worst thing for me.

01:47:31.000 I'd rather not have it.

01:47:33.000 Then to be disappointed.

01:47:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:35.000 So in the future, the next one that I do, unless they come to me and say, hey, we gonna put you to series, this is what we get, but it ain't gonna no more stringing along.

01:47:46.000 You're not gonna be sitting around here, we together, and then give me a call at 12 o'clock on a Friday night and say, nah.

01:47:54.000 Well, when you've been doing it as long as you have, too.

01:47:56.000 It's like, and you develop an audience the way you have. 0.99

01:48:00.000 It's like, you don't want to fuck with that anymore. 0.97

01:48:02.000 But you're always wanting that thing that you didn't have. 0.99

01:48:06.000 Yeah.

01:48:07.000 But it's, to me, to be honest with you, it's just expanding what I am already is.

01:48:12.000 I hold people's attention for an hour.

01:48:14.000 I know I can do it with 22 minutes.

01:48:16.000 Yeah.

01:48:16.000 With a lot of people playing in a fictitious world and on it.

01:48:19.000 Come on, goddamn. 1.00

01:48:21.000 And... 1.00

01:48:23.000 It shows that it worked.

01:48:24.000 That's why you have so many reality shows that's killing your scripted shows.

01:48:28.000 Because your fictitious world, you bring it up, don't nobody buy this.

01:48:32.000 You understand what I'm saying?

01:48:34.000 Don't buy it.

01:48:36.000 And definitely, if you don't know about that world, you at least have to see it so you can see and test it as a CEO of anything to expand your own brand.

01:48:49.000 If I owned a record And I want some country singers. 0.95

01:48:57.000 I'm going to get somebody to know about country singers.

01:48:59.000 And I'm like, is that good?

01:49:01.000 Okay, that's good.

01:49:02.000 When I owned a comedy club, I used to tell people all the time, I don't book the comedians.

01:49:07.000 The crowd do.

01:49:08.000 And it's not my job to find is he funny or not.

01:49:11.000 Do he pull the people in and they laugh?

01:49:13.000 Then that's what it is.

01:49:14.000 How I feel is irrelevant.

01:49:17.000 I would prefer my friend to be up here, but if my friend is only bringing 10 people and Shucky Duckie is bringing 200, Shucky Duckie Quack Quack is coming on through here.

01:49:29.000 Regardless if I think my friend is funnier than Shucky Ducky.

01:49:34.000 Because I have to sit here and make a decision based upon what the fans and what the consumer wants.

01:49:43.000 And you have to evolve.

01:49:44.000 That's the great thing I say about rap is, they always had a person like Russell Simmons, P. Diddy, Puffy, they was able to talk to the record label and say, listen, we got what you need.

01:50:01.000 Don't come down here and mess with our artists.

01:50:03.000 Because you'll never understand it.

01:50:05.000 Either trust me, give me the money, and I'll bring you back the results.

01:50:09.000 Yes.

01:50:09.000 But don't you come into the booth.

01:50:11.000 Don't you come in the booth and say he shouldn't say that.

01:50:14.000 That ain't how it is.

01:50:15.000 You don't understand.

01:50:15.000 Do you want to win or you don't want to win?

01:50:18.000 We in comedy has never had a Puffy.

01:50:20.000 We have never had a Russell Simmons.

01:50:24.000 We had a Walter Latham.

01:50:25.000 And he did The Kings of Comedy and all them brothers came out and became stars.

01:50:30.000 But he got upset because he think he supposed to go farther with him.

01:50:33.000 So he never did The Kings of Comedy 2, 3, 4, and 5. He just shut the shit down. 1.00

01:50:38.000 And didn't let nobody else play King, put King on nothing else no more. 0.99

01:50:42.000 He came back with another tour and called it The Walter Latham Presents.

01:50:47.000 I was on it.

01:50:48.000 And I was like, present what?

01:50:49.000 Don't nobody know you?

01:50:54.000 Don't nobody know you, man!

01:50:57.000 You should call this king of comedy, too!

01:51:00.000 Right.

01:51:00.000 We already had brand recognition, so we can continue on.

01:51:03.000 But you still mad at them brothers, because they elevated and didn't go that way.

01:51:07.000 So what you gonna do?

01:51:09.000 All the people...

01:51:10.000 No, because we never had a person didn't want to be us.

01:51:14.000 But I mean him.

01:51:16.000 Imagine that kind of ego.

01:51:17.000 You're getting to work with these amazing comedians.

01:51:20.000 You put together this huge hit, but you don't feel like you're getting enough attention.

01:51:24.000 Exactly.

01:51:25.000 He did us, and I swear to God...

01:51:29.000 Yeah.

01:51:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:53.000 Ego.

01:51:54.000 Ego.

01:51:55.000 Ego's so crazy.

01:51:56.000 I'm sitting here. 1.00

01:51:57.000 Yeah, look at that shit. 1.00

01:51:59.000 Look, he's in the middle. 1.00

01:52:01.000 Latham presents all new DL, some more, me, Bruce Bruce, J. Anthony Brown, and Ricky Smiley.

01:52:08.000 He will not name that the Kings because of what the relationship was with them.

01:52:14.000 Oh, that's crazy.

01:52:15.000 He didn't like how it turned out for him?

01:52:16.000 No, so make sure he get the claim Walter Latham presents. 0.99

01:52:21.000 And I say, who on the fuck is Walter Latham? 0.99

01:52:23.000 Nobody know who you are, man! 0.99

01:52:28.000 See, I ain't had these breaks you had.

01:52:30.000 The people say, yeah, you shouldn't let them do this. 1.00

01:52:33.000 You had this kind of shit. 0.99

01:52:34.000 Well, my hope for you is that this Netflix special, which I think is undeniable. 1.00

01:52:39.000 Thank you.

01:52:40.000 It's so good.

01:52:41.000 I think Netflix opens the door.

01:52:43.000 That's what I think.

01:52:44.000 I think that's the smart thing to do.

01:52:46.000 Because, look, this special's gonna be killer.

01:52:49.000 And then you having a sitcom on Netflix is natural.

01:52:53.000 It's easy.

01:52:54.000 It's better.

01:52:55.000 It's better.

01:52:56.000 It'll be real. 0.99

01:52:57.000 You can say whatever the fuck you want. 1.00

01:52:59.000 They'll let you fuck around. 1.00

01:53:01.000 Netflix leaves you the fuck alone when you do a special. 1.00

01:53:04.000 It's beautiful. 0.79

01:53:05.000 I've done three specials with them. 0.99

01:53:07.000 They just leave you the fuck alone. 0.99

01:53:09.000 They never say anything to me. 0.99

01:53:10.000 And they take care of you.

01:53:11.000 Yes, they take care of you.

01:53:13.000 I ain't got no Monique problem over here. 1.00

01:53:16.000 It was good.

01:53:17.000 Yeah, they take care of you, and they leave you alone.

01:53:19.000 They leave you alone.

01:53:21.000 They trust that you're funny.

01:53:22.000 They go, when are you going to record it?

01:53:25.000 Okay, we'll go watch.

01:53:26.000 They're there to watch, and then when's it going to be delivered?

01:53:30.000 September?

01:53:31.000 Perfect! 0.98

01:53:32.000 Okay, it'll air in fucking November or whatever it is, and it's nothing. 0.92

01:53:37.000 There's no involvement in the creative process, which is beautiful. 0.92

01:53:40.000 Because I had to deal with Comedy Central, and they had to make a transcript of my set.

01:53:45.000 And then I had a phone call with them, and the phone call, the transcript, they go, well, you can't say that.

01:53:53.000 They got to the third, you can't say that.

01:53:55.000 I go, stop.

01:53:55.000 I'm good.

01:53:56.000 I'm done.

01:53:57.000 I quit.

01:53:58.000 And they're like, what?

01:53:58.000 I go, I'm not doing this.

01:53:59.000 I'm not doing this with you guys.

01:54:01.000 I'm not doing this.

01:54:02.000 I'm like, this is not happening.

01:54:03.000 Eventually went on to do one a couple years later, but there was no problems with that material back then.

01:54:09.000 They'd kind of changed when streaming came along, too, because they realized they kind of had to open up the content a little bit more because they were losing comics.

01:54:17.000 They're losing people to Netflix and losing people to HBO and Showtime and places where you could just be free.

01:54:23.000 Do you feel that Netflix...

01:54:26.000 HBO is what HBO used to be with...

01:54:29.000 Bigger.

01:54:30.000 Bigger.

01:54:31.000 Bigger.

01:54:31.000 Yeah.

01:54:32.000 It's bigger than HBO. What HBO was, there was only HBO. The thing about HBO is it's still around.

01:54:38.000 Like, there's still guys who do HBO specials and they're still great. 0.93

01:54:41.000 But what Netflix is, is you can watch it any fucking time you want. 0.93

01:54:45.000 True. 0.97

01:54:46.000 You can watch it on your phone.

01:54:47.000 You can watch it at...

01:54:48.000 I mean, I know that HBO has HBO... What is it?

01:54:50.000 Max?

01:54:51.000 HBO Max.

01:54:52.000 Yeah, which is great.

01:54:53.000 Right.

01:54:54.000 But...

01:54:57.000 It's a beast.

01:54:58.000 And it's global.

01:55:00.000 It's global.

01:55:00.000 It's a juggernaut.

01:55:01.000 You can't stop it.

01:55:02.000 That's what Dave told me.

01:55:02.000 He's like, man, you don't even understand.

01:55:05.000 You're going to be raking in money.

01:55:06.000 I say, please let that come.

01:55:09.000 Jesus.

01:55:09.000 It's easy for you to say while you're sitting on it.

01:55:11.000 But please let it come.

01:55:13.000 A guy like you, one of the beautiful things is you could turn over an hour quick.

01:55:17.000 Yeah.

01:55:17.000 So you do this special, this special comes out, and then you can do another one in a year.

01:55:21.000 Oh, I will.

01:55:22.000 I'm working on it right now.

01:55:23.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:55:24.000 No, it's going to be better than this one right here, because now I see it.

01:55:28.000 I'm going to get this stomach off, and I'm going to get ready for it.

01:55:31.000 And that's all I'm thinking about from that point on.

01:55:34.000 I told Dave, I said, all right, man, we're going to follow this up with this owl.

01:55:40.000 And he was like, yeah.

01:55:41.000 I said, yeah, man.

01:55:42.000 And he was the one who told me, don't even try to get a TV show.

01:55:47.000 Really?

01:55:48.000 Yeah, because he wanted the executive to produce my TV show.

01:55:53.000 And I was talking to him.

01:55:54.000 He was like, listen, man.

01:55:55.000 You only want to go down that road.

01:55:58.000 And just go be the top comedian for a year.

01:56:02.000 Smell the roses after you drop this.

01:56:04.000 Be the top comic.

01:56:05.000 Then come back.

01:56:06.000 I'm like, no, no, no.

01:56:07.000 I want to be on TV. I want to do this TV. You want that make-it bag?

01:56:12.000 I want that make-it bag.

01:56:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:56:15.000 I want that goddamn makeup bag. 1.00

01:56:17.000 You know, the thing is, man, when something like that has been in the distance for so long, and now you can grab that bitch. 1.00

01:56:23.000 I thought I was so close, too, man. 0.98

01:56:25.000 You don't every day get to talk to the president of the network.

01:56:28.000 You're like, boy, I know I'm in.

01:56:31.000 And you're like, I think I'm in.

01:56:33.000 But it just didn't come to fruition, and everything happens for a reason.

01:56:36.000 But, boy, I thought I was close. 0.96

01:56:38.000 I swear, you couldn't tell me a damn thing, Joe. 0.85

01:56:41.000 I just knew. 0.94

01:56:42.000 It was going to happen.

01:56:42.000 Oh, it was going to happen.

01:56:44.000 I was.

01:56:45.000 You couldn't tell me that it was.

01:56:47.000 I tell you, Quake, I think it's for the best.

01:56:49.000 I do.

01:56:49.000 I know it would be great to have that, but I think you'd be better on Netflix.

01:56:52.000 And I think your special's gonna be gigantic. 0.99

01:56:55.000 And I think from there, you doing an even bigger special in a year from now, you're gonna be like, thank God I didn't do that corny-ass fucking CVS bullshit. 0.99

01:57:05.000 I got to I have to fuck up my jokes and change the subjects and change... 1.00

01:57:11.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:57:13.000 Fuck that, man. 1.00

01:57:14.000 You're too good. 1.00

01:57:15.000 You're too good for network TV. It was a blow.

01:57:19.000 It was.

01:57:20.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:21.000 It was...

01:57:22.000 I can tell.

01:57:26.000 Oh, yeah.

01:57:30.000 On a Friday night.

01:57:32.000 It's terrible, but it's for the best.

01:57:34.000 I believe that.

01:57:35.000 I really do.

01:57:35.000 I think there's not a lot of guys that are as funny as you.

01:57:38.000 You're at this elite level of stand-up comedy where me personally, as a comic, but more importantly as a fan of comedy, I love excellence.

01:57:48.000 I love when someone achieves this level of harmony with the audience and the material and the delivery and the years and years of performing and the polish of the boom, boom, boom, boom!

01:58:00.000 I mean, that special is just one after the other.

01:58:03.000 The bang, bang, bang! 0.98

01:58:04.000 The pauses are perfect.

01:58:06.000 The time in between the jokes is perfect.

01:58:08.000 It's beautiful, man.

01:58:09.000 That's what I like. 1.00

01:58:10.000 Fuck a sitcom. 1.00

01:58:12.000 Fucks it comes. 1.00

01:58:13.000 Well, if you can say that, man. 1.00

01:58:15.000 I can tell you.

01:58:16.000 Yeah, you done had them, and you Spotify.

01:58:18.000 You're over here nice. 1.00

01:58:19.000 Fuck them. 1.00

01:58:19.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:58:20.000 They can't call me. 1.00

01:58:22.000 You can call me, I'll start laughing, like, what do you want me to do?

01:58:24.000 I know you'll laugh. 1.00

01:58:26.000 I'll be over there, motherfucker. 1.00

01:58:27.000 I'll forgive you. 1.00

01:58:28.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:58:32.000 Like, I forgive you. 1.00

01:58:34.000 Let's do it again.

01:58:35.000 I think you doing a sitcom anywhere other than Netflix or even HBO or somewhere where they just let you be free, it's a travesty.

01:58:43.000 Your material is too, you're too edgy.

01:58:47.000 You go out there. 1.00

01:58:49.000 You say risky shit. 1.00

01:58:52.000 And that's beautiful. 1.00

01:58:54.000 That's what I love.

01:58:55.000 You know what I really wanted to play though?

01:58:57.000 The Black Archie Bunker. 0.64

01:58:59.000 Oh, someone needs to.

01:59:01.000 The Black Archie Bunker. 0.64

01:59:03.000 That's what I want to do.

01:59:04.000 It's amazing that no one has.

01:59:05.000 I mean... 0.88

01:59:06.000 Because a black guy can pull it off. 0.97

01:59:08.000 Oh yeah, the right one. 0.97

01:59:09.000 Still, yes.

01:59:10.000 You can do it.

01:59:11.000 I can pull it off.

01:59:12.000 100%.

01:59:12.000 Oh, I can pull that off.

01:59:13.000 I'm talking about...

01:59:15.000 Talking about the show, I mean the Black Archie Bunker. 1.00

01:59:18.000 Yes.

01:59:18.000 Oh.

01:59:19.000 Yes.

01:59:20.000 Oh, man.

01:59:21.000 Boy, the things that I wrote for this show, for the Black, we have that.

01:59:27.000 And the Black Archie Bunker is what I would love to play. 0.95

01:59:30.000 That right there.

01:59:32.000 Well, Red Foxx kind of did that a little bit with Fred Sanford.

01:59:36.000 Yeah.

01:59:36.000 I wanted a higher note just on Red Foxx, that kind of way.

01:59:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:59:43.000 Well, as a fan of comedy, I'm hoping that you don't get any sitcom.

01:59:49.000 I'm hoping if you do, it's going to be on Netflix, and I'm hoping you just go on to do hour after hour after hour.

01:59:56.000 I'm just saying...

01:59:57.000 Because your ability to turn over material is extraordinary, and your ability to write is extraordinary.

02:00:03.000 And I think that that's just...

02:00:05.000 You have these chops that very few people develop.

02:00:08.000 You don't get a chance.

02:00:09.000 You don't get a chance to hit that level of excellence as a comic.

02:00:15.000 How many guys get through it?

02:00:16.000 How many of us are there?

02:00:18.000 Let's talk about that.

02:00:19.000 True that.

02:00:20.000 Is there even a thousand of us on Earth?

02:00:22.000 No.

02:00:22.000 Probably not, if you're gonna be honest.

02:00:24.000 Like a real headliner, how many of us?

02:00:27.000 There might be 500 of us on Earth.

02:00:30.000 There's a million doctors in America alone.

02:00:33.000 How many comics are there?

02:00:35.000 Real ones.

02:00:36.000 Guys can go up there and light a room on fire.

02:00:40.000 Maybe a few hundred.

02:00:43.000 It's hard to get there.

02:00:45.000 So when someone gets there like you, I want you to stay there.

02:00:48.000 I mean, I want you to get everything.

02:00:50.000 Everything you want. 1.00

02:00:51.000 I want you to get all the accolades and all the money and all the make it bag, but fuck that sitcom. 1.00

02:00:57.000 You sound just like Dave. 1.00

02:00:59.000 You know that?

02:01:00.000 I can tell both of y'all.

02:01:01.000 That's why I love him.

02:01:02.000 Yeah, you and Dave.

02:01:03.000 That's the same thing he told me before I even did my day. 1.00

02:01:07.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:01:08.000 You don't need that. 1.00

02:01:09.000 See what you want. 1.00

02:01:10.000 We both have fuck you money. 1.00

02:01:12.000 Yeah, y'all do. 1.00

02:01:13.000 That's what it is.

02:01:13.000 And I got...

02:01:14.000 If I don't work, goddammit, I'm in trouble money.

02:01:17.000 Yeah.

02:01:19.000 But that keeps you hungry and sharp.

02:01:21.000 There's something about that, too, man.

02:01:23.000 There's something beautiful about that, too.

02:01:25.000 It's beautiful.

02:01:26.000 It is.

02:01:27.000 And I just want to explain.

02:01:28.000 But see, in my defense, y'all both had successful TV shows.

02:01:33.000 100%.

02:01:34.000 Y'all both have already achieved that feather in your cap. 1.00

02:01:39.000 I've developed the ability to say, fuck you, because of fear factor. 1.00

02:01:42.000 Yes, you have. 1.00

02:01:43.000 I got that Fear Factor money, and then I was like, oh, I'm free now.

02:01:46.000 I'm free.

02:01:47.000 And then I just...

02:01:47.000 I wouldn't listen to anybody anymore.

02:01:50.000 Yeah.

02:01:50.000 And that's when I started doing the podcast.

02:01:52.000 Yeah.

02:01:52.000 And look at you.

02:01:54.000 Yeah.

02:01:55.000 Listen, man.

02:01:56.000 I watch you.

02:01:57.000 That's what I was going to call you.

02:01:59.000 Like, all right, man.

02:02:00.000 How do I... Because my show is on Kevin Hart's.

02:02:03.000 It's on Sirius, right?

02:02:04.000 It's on Sirius right here.

02:02:06.000 And I watch you.

02:02:07.000 How much longer are you doing it on that?

02:02:10.000 I do one-year deals.

02:02:11.000 That's good.

02:02:12.000 I only do one-year deals.

02:02:14.000 This is my thought on that.

02:02:15.000 First of all, being connected to Kevin Hart is a blessing.

02:02:18.000 It's an amazing thing.

02:02:19.000 He's an amazing guy.

02:02:20.000 But the problem with something like Sirius is it's limited to people who have Sirius.

02:02:25.000 True.

02:02:25.000 Which is a lot, a lot of people, but it also doesn't work in a tunnel.

02:02:30.000 It's weird.

02:02:32.000 The satellite thing is weird.

02:02:34.000 The internet is better.

02:02:36.000 I don't want to tune in when it's on. 0.97

02:02:39.000 I want to get it whenever the fuck I want it. 0.93

02:02:41.000 I want to download it before I get on a plane. 0.97

02:02:44.000 If I'm going to listen to a podcast, I want to listen to it when I'm running.

02:02:47.000 I want to press start when I want.

02:02:49.000 And that's the beauty of the internet.

02:02:52.000 The satellite was amazing when it came along, Because when it came along, it was uncensored.

02:02:57.000 It's like all of a sudden you have this uncensored medium that's basically like when Howard Stern went over to Sirius, it was a giant thing.

02:03:04.000 Because here you got this guy who's the greatest uncensored radio personality ever.

02:03:10.000 Everybody says that.

02:03:11.000 He's the guy who opened up the doors for everybody like me.

02:03:13.000 And now he can be uncensored.

02:03:16.000 Now he can go wild.

02:03:18.000 He doesn't have to worry about the government.

02:03:19.000 People forget the government was coming after Howard Stern.

02:03:22.000 The FCC was fining them hundreds of thousands of dollars every time he would say things that are easy now.

02:03:29.000 Now all those things that he said are nothing in comparison to things we say every day. 0.98

02:03:34.000 But back then it was a big fucking deal. 0.95

02:03:36.000 And he was the guy that got arrested, or got in trouble rather, and sued. 0.99

02:03:39.000 He was the guy who broke down all the doors.

02:03:41.000 Just like guys like Richard Pryor and Lenny Bruce and George Carlin got arrested for material.

02:03:47.000 He was in trouble.

02:03:49.000 He was in trouble for talking.

02:03:52.000 But the internet doesn't have any of those restrictions.

02:03:54.000 Like if your show that you're doing on Kevin Hart's thing, you just take it to the podcast world, it'll be fucking huge too.

02:04:04.000 I never understood the background and everything had to do with podcasts.

02:04:10.000 But I knew everybody had one.

02:04:12.000 What the hell going on? 1.00

02:04:13.000 It's just talking shit and you're a master at that. 1.00

02:04:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:18.000 That's what it is.

02:04:18.000 Yeah.

02:04:19.000 I was like, everybody got a fucking podcast. 0.99

02:04:22.000 And I did radio, regular radio, and that went well. 0.99

02:04:31.000 I wanted to be like Steve and get syndicated in 90 cities, you know?

02:04:36.000 Terrestrial radio.

02:04:38.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 But then my boys ain't let me do it either.

02:04:40.000 So I said, I ain't come to New York to be number one.

02:04:43.000 I want to be heard all throughout the country.

02:04:46.000 And it was WBLS, so I tried that.

02:04:48.000 So I always did radio, but I never understood what it was with the podcast. 0.99

02:04:54.000 And then when I heard about you, I was like, God damn it. 0.99

02:04:58.000 Send me to school. 0.98

02:05:00.000 And then when I saw you when we was on tour, I was like, Joe, I need to talk to you.

02:05:04.000 Listen, you can do it.

02:05:06.000 You can do it 100%.

02:05:07.000 Listen, you're interested in people.

02:05:10.000 You're interesting.

02:05:11.000 You're great at talking to people.

02:05:13.000 That's all the elements.

02:05:14.000 And then all you have to do is just get used to it.

02:05:18.000 Just get used to doing it.

02:05:19.000 It'll be, oh, your podcast will be gigantic.

02:05:22.000 Yeah.

02:05:23.000 Well, goddammit, I'm gonna have to do that too.

02:05:25.000 Do it.

02:05:25.000 Yeah, man.

02:05:26.000 I'll help you.

02:05:27.000 I'll promote it. 0.86

02:05:27.000 Goddammit, there it is. 0.86

02:05:29.000 I'll promote it.

02:05:29.000 Keep that on tape.

02:05:30.000 Cut that.

02:05:31.000 Send it to the real earthquake.

02:05:32.000 I will help you.

02:05:33.000 I will 100% promote it.

02:05:34.000 IG on here.

02:05:34.000 Get it done.

02:05:36.000 Would have happened, though.

02:05:37.000 But yeah, I did want it to be on TV. Whatever you do, I'm in the earthquake business.

02:05:41.000 I'll be happy to promote whatever you do.

02:05:43.000 Just let me know.

02:05:43.000 Well, thank you, man.

02:05:44.000 And you have supported me because I asked you.

02:05:47.000 I said, hey, man.

02:05:47.000 Doing this special with Dave, before we did it, whenever I get to do it, it's like, no problem, come on down, and here we are.

02:05:55.000 I'm your man of your word. 0.91

02:05:57.000 I am, but I've been singing your praises for a long fucking time, as do everybody else. 0.98

02:06:02.000 All the comics. 0.99

02:06:03.000 You are a comics comic.

02:06:05.000 And so for me...

02:06:07.000 As a fan of the art form, I'm very excited to watch you pop.

02:06:11.000 I love it.

02:06:11.000 Thank you, man.

02:06:12.000 I love the fact that you got this Netflix special coming out.

02:06:14.000 Thank you, man.

02:06:14.000 So today, it's going to be February 28th, it turns out.

02:06:20.000 So February 28th, Netflix, you know what to do, people.

02:06:25.000 Please!

02:06:25.000 Please.

02:06:26.000 Please.

02:06:27.000 And follow me at TheRealEarthquake, please.

02:06:29.000 It's at TheRealEarthquake.

02:06:31.000 And thank you, my brother.

02:06:33.000 My pleasure.

02:06:33.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:06:34.000 Pleasure's all mine now.

02:06:35.000 Anytime.

02:06:35.000 All right.

02:06:36.000 Bye, everybody.

02:06:37.000 See ya.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 26, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1785 - Earthquake

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